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THEY'RE TRYING TO HAVE A MEETING OVER HERE IN 20 MINUTES.
AND OF COURSE, NOTHING IN THE A RB BUILDING SEEMS TO BE CONNECTING.
THE COMPUTERS COME UP WHEN I GET ONTO THE, UH, I MEAN, I COULD SEE THE NETWORK IN THE NETWORK PATH, BUT I ALSO SEE A JOB SERVER, AND I SEE PAC SERVER THAT HAS WHAT LOOKS LIKE THE NEW STUFF, GIS DATA OPPS THERE, AND THEN THE SEPARATE, SEPARATE ONE FOR PVC.
SO I'M SEEING KIND OF A STRUCTURE.
THANK EVERYBODY FOR BEING HERE, AND ESPECIALLY TO THE APPRAISAL DISTRICT.
UH, CHRIS, WE APPRECIATE YOUR HOSPITALITY.
WE KIND OF INVITED OURSELVES OUT HERE, BUT WE APPRECIATE YOU LETTING US COME OUT HERE AS WE MOVE INTO THE AGENDA, ESPECIALLY WHEN WE GET DOWN TO ITEM THREE, WE'RE GOING TO, WE'RE GONNA NEED SOME HELP, AND YOU'RE THE, THE LOGICAL ENTITY TO, TO HELP US, UH, DO THAT.
SO, UH, UH, I THINK WE WILL DISPENSE WITH OUR REGULAR OPENING, UH, CEREMONIES.
I KNOW EVERYBODY'S GOT A BUSY DAY TO DAY, BUT, UH, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER, UH, FOR A SPECIAL MEETING OF THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT FOR THURSDAY, JANUARY THE 23RD AT 8:30 AM I BELIEVE WE HAVE A QUORUM PRESENT.
AND THANKS TO EVERYBODY FOR BEING HERE.
WE HAVE SOME GUESTS HERE WITH US.
UH, I KNOW PAULETTE MURRA, UH, FROM THE KAUFMAN INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT.
SHE IS THE SECRETARY TO THE SUPERINTENDENT, AND CAN TELL YOU A LOT ABOUT ME THAT I JUST ASSUMED YOU NOT KNOW
AND SO WE'RE PROUD TO HAVE HER.
BLAYLOCK IS DOING EVALUATIONS THIS MORNING, WAS NOT ABLE TO BE HERE.
AND THEN WE HAVE OUR NEW REPORTER, UH, FROM THE KAUFMAN, UH, HAROLD.
AND IT'S DANIELLE? DANIELLE HAYNES.
AND SO SHE WILL BE COVERING OUR, UH, MEETINGS, UH, FOR THE FUTURE.
AND, UH, SO WE'RE GLAD TO HAVE THAT.
I THINK WE'VE GOT A FELLOW OVER HERE.
JAMES, GLAD TO HAVE YOU WITH, YOU MAY WANT STEP UP TO THE TABLE IF YOU'D LIKE TO, IN CASE WE GET INTO SOMETHING WE NEED TO, UH, ASK YOU.
AND I GAVE YOU A, UH, UH, JOHN LONG, AND JAMES, UH, IS FAMILIAR WITH THIS AS WELL.
HE'S BEEN WORKING FOR JOHN ON THIS, UH, IS THE DISCUSSION THAT TO CONSIDER THE APPROVAL OF SALE OF APPROXIMATELY 50.2 ACRES OF LAND IN D FALCON SURVEY, ABSTRACT 1 51 TO THE KAUFFMAN INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT, AND THE EXECUTION OF AGREEMENTS, CONTRACTS, DEEDS, AND ANY AND OTHER, ALL OTHER DOCUMENTS NECESSARY FOR THE SALE.
AND, UH, YOU DO HAVE, UH, UH, AN EMAIL FROM JOHN WHO WAS NOT ABLE TO BE HERE WITH, UH, UH, JAMES.
BUT, UH, THIS, UH, COINCIDES WITH, UH, UH, DISCUSSIONS WE'VE HAD IN CLOSED SESSION WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, UH, OVER THE LAST FEW MONTHS ABOUT THE SALE OF THIS PROPERTY, WHICH OF COURSE IS JUST PRETTY CORNER ACROSS THE STREET FROM WHERE WE ARE.
AND, UH, YOU HAVE, UH, AN OPPORTUNITY TO, UH, LOOK, UH, AT WHAT JOHN HAS INDICATED AND, UH, WITH A SUGGESTION, A MOTION THAT WILL NEED TO BE READ.
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SHOULD WE, UH, MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS.DO WE HAVE ANY DISCUSSION, UH, BEFORE WE, UH, BEFORE WE ACT ON THIS MATTER? I'D JUST LIKE TO ADD THAT I'VE TALKED TO, UH, A, UH, A LAND DEVELOPER AND THE GUY THAT INVESTS IN LAND AROUND
AND, UH, IT SEEMS THAT LAND COMPARABLE TO THIS KIND OF ON THE OTHER END OF WHAT'S GONNA BE THE LOOP, UH, SOLD TWO YEARS AGO FOR MORE THAN A DOLLAR SQUARE FOOT FOR AN INVESTMENT PROPERTY.
AND, UH, TO ME THIS JUST SEEMS SEVERELY UNDER VALUABLE.
AND I KNOW WE'VE HAD SOME APPRAISALS.
I DON'T KNOW HOW OLD THEY ARE, BUT, UH, I'M JUST KIND OF CONCERNED THAT, YOU KNOW, THE COUNTY IS NOT GETTING THE FULL BENEFIT OF, OF THE PROPERTY.
AND I SHOULD HAVE BROUGHT THE APPRAISAL.
WE HAD, YOU KNOW, VARYING RIGHT.
THE, THE ONE THAT WAS THE FIRST APPRAISAL, AND THIS PROPERTY'S BEEN APPRAISED FOR A WHOLE DIFFERENT TIME OVER THE, OVER THE YEARS.
BUT, UH, THE ONE THAT WAS DONE, UH, BY AN APPRAISAL, UH, APPRAISAL COMPANY FROM, UH, UH, IN ROCKWALL, I BELIEVE CAME IN AT 17 NINE PER ACRE.
UH, AND THAT'S ABOUT TWO YEARS AGO.
AND THEN, UH, AND I DON'T KNOW WHEN THIS PROPERTY WAS, IT WAS ABOUT TWO YEARS AGO, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN.
UM, IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, IN THAT APPRAISAL, AND THEN THE OTHER APPRAISALS, THEY COULD FIND NO COMPARABLE SALES.
AND THAT, THAT, I DON'T KNOW WHEN, WELL, I, IT WAS A, IT WASN'T A COMPLETE SALE, IT WAS AN INVESTMENT.
THE GUY SOLD HALF INTEREST IN SOME LAND, AND I THINK RAY'S PROBABLY FAMILIAR HIM WORKING ON THE RIGHT OF WAY ACQUISITIONS OF 34.
AND, UH, IT WASN'T PUBLIC KNOWLEDGE UNTIL, I THINK DURING THE TDOT AND CITY DISCUSSIONS, UH, THE GUY REVEALED THAT HE GAVE MORE THAN A DOLLAR A SQUARE FOOT, UM, FOR, YOU KNOW, SPECULATION PURPOSES.
UH, AND IT'S, AGAIN, IT'S GOING TO, YOU KNOW, JOIN THE NEW HIGHWAY 34.
HOW MANY ACRES WAS IT, DO YOU KNOW? UH, RAISED.
THAT'S, THAT'S THE, THAT'S THE TEXT DO NUMBER.
WAS THE APPRAISED VALUE ON THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY.
YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT T APPRAISED THAT AT $18,000 AN ACRE, WHICH IS CLOSE TO DIS IN THE LAST FEW MONTHS, WHICH IS CLOSE TO 17 NINE THAT WE HAD DONE SEVERAL YEARS AGO.
THAT'S HOW, KIND OF HOW WE KIND OF GO WITH THE 18 GRAND AN ACRE.
AND THIS SAME INVESTOR DID SAY THAT HE'D BUY ANY LAND WE HAD.
HE, HE WASN'T SATISFIED WITH THAT.
OF COURSE, IT'S A TYPICAL BUY OR SHOW THING IF YOU'RE, IF YOU'RE BUYING TOO WILLING, IF YOU'RE SELLING IS TOO LOW.
AND HE SAID THAT HE'D BUY ANYTHING.
IF WE KIND OF AGREED ALREADY WITH THE SCHOOL, THEY'VE GONE THIS FAR DOWN THE ROAD, I DON'T, AND IT, IT WOULD BE A HELP TO, UH, YOU KNOW, THE CITIZENS OF KAUFMAN ISD THAT HAVE TO PAY TAXES.
I THINK IT IS UNDERVALUE, BUT I THINK IT'S A, I THINK IT'S PRUDENT FOR US TO, YOU KNOW, HELP THEM OUT.
I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE SURE THAT THE CONTRACT TO KEEP US FROM HAVING MUD THROWN ON US DOWN THE ROAD, INCLUDING THE CONTRACT THAT THE COUNTY HAS THE FIRST RIGHT OF REFUSAL IF THAT PROPERTY'S EVER SOLD.
IN OTHER WORDS, IF, IF THEY'RE GONNA USE IT FOR SCHOOL, THAT'S ALL WELL AND GOOD, BUT THEY'RE GONNA USE KINDA LIKE WHAT I, I WANTED TO KEEP 10 ACRES TO START WITH ALONG THE ROAD, AND THEY SAID THEY HAD TO HAVE THE WHOLE 50 ACRES, WHICH SOME OF THE STUFF I'VE LOOKED AT, IT TAKES A LOT OF LANDFILL TO HIGH SCHOOL ALSO.
THEY PROBABLY DO NEED THE WHOLE 50 ACRES.
BUT MY CONCERN WOULD BE WHAT, WHAT IF THEY DECIDE THAT, OKAY, WELL WE CAN BUILD A SCHOOL ON 40 ACRES, LET'S SELL THE 10 ACRES ALONG THE ROAD AND PAY FOR THE WHOLE, AND YOU COULD PROBABLY SELL THOSE 10 ACRES AND PAY FOR THE WHOLE, ONCE YOU SELL IT, IT'S GONE, I'M ASSUMING.
WELL, IF WE HAVE FIRST ROUTE OF REFUSAL, LONG AS THEY USE IT FOR A SCHOOL, I THINK IT'D BE, WE'RE HELPING THE TAXPAYERS.
I'D LIKE TO ADD TO, UH, RACE COMMENTS, UH, UNDER, UNDER SECOND 2, 7 2.
THAT BASICALLY ALLOWS US TO SELL PROPERTY TO A ENTITY AND NOT HAVE TO GO OUT TO BID AND NOT PUT A BID OUT THERE.
SO IT'S BASED, I THINK IT MENTIONED, YOU KNOW, THAT'S CARRYING OUT A PUBLIC PURPOSE.
AND I THINK IF WE DIDN'T HAVE A LANGUAGE THERE AND LAND WAS SOLD, YOU KNOW, FIVE ACRES, SO LATER DOWN THE ROAD FOR PROPERTY, I THINK THAT'D BE GOING AGAINST THE STATUTE.
SO I THINK THERE NEEDS TO BE SOME TYPE OF LANGUAGE TO YEAH, I, I'D AGREE WITH THAT ASSESSMENT.
I MEAN, I THINK THAT WOULD PREVENT THEM FROM, FROM SELLING THE PROPERTY FOR PRIVATE USE LATER ON DOWN THE ROAD.
AND MY DISCUSSION WITH SCHOOL DISTRICT, THEY NEVER MENTIONED ANYTHING ABOUT, OTHER THAN USING THE ENTIRE 50 ACRES.
YOU KNOW, THEY SHOULDN'T HAVE ANY KIND OF ISSUE LONG AS THE SCHOOL PROPERTY, THEN THEY, THEY, I, I'M OKAY WITH IT.
UH, I WON'T PUT YOU ON THE SPOT, BUT I WILL, I GUESS I WILL.
UH, IS, WHAT'S YOUR OPINION OF THE, OF THE, OF THIS PARTICULAR PIECE PROPERTY AND OTHER PROPERTIES THAT MAY BE SIMILAR TO IT AS FAR AS THE VALUE IS CONCERNED? WELL, I, I THINK YOU, YOU HIT ON BOTH, BOTH ASPECTS OF IT.
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VERY FEW COMPS RIGHT NOW TO, UH, UM, MAKE ANY COMPARISONS FROM, AND ESPECIALLY HERE IN KAUFMAN, WE'VE JUST NOT HAD IT SEEN ANY LAND SALES IN, IN THE LAST TWO YEARS TO, UH, MAKE ANY, UH, ASSUMPTIONS FROM THAT.UH, SO, UH, IT'S GOOD NEWS FOR US TO, TO KIND OF LOOK AT SOME OF THAT, THAT THAT COMES THROUGH.
BUT I THINK IT'S ALSO, AS MR. CLARK, UH, MENTIONED, YOU KNOW, THIS IS, UH, UH, BOUGHT IN ANTICIPATION OF, UH, SOME FUTURE DEVELOPMENT COMING AROUND IT TOO.
SO, UH, IT, IT'S JUST NOT LIKE IT'S A 50 ACRE, UH, AG PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT'S OUT THERE.
UH, IS THIS, DO YOU KNOW OF ANY OTHER PROPERTY, UH, SIMILAR TO THIS, UH, UH, COMMISSIONERS OL INDICATED THERE MAY HAVE BEEN A PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT, WHAT, WHAT IS THE VALUE OF THE APPRAISED VALUE FROM THE DISTRICT ON THE, UH, WILLIAMS BROWNING PROPERTY? 'CAUSE IT'S ABOUT 50 ACRES ALSO, AND IT'S, YOU KNOW, GONNA BE DIVIDED.
IT'D BE, UH, BE FOR, UH, ART BROWNING AND ROBERT WILLIAMS. CAN YOU LOOK THAT UP AND SEE WHAT THE PRICE VALUE ON THAT PROPERTY IS RIGHT.
BY THE WALMART? UH, TRACK THAT, THAT NO, IT'S ACTUALLY ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE, BETWEEN HIGHWAY, HIGHWAY 2 43 AND, AND, UH, R ROAD, RIGHT WHERE THE LOOP IS GONNA START.
WE'RE HAVING A LOOK, UH, PROBLEMS WITH OUR, UH, INTERNET AND OUR CONNECTION OVER HERE.
BUT I'LL GO, I'LL GO LOOK AT THAT.
UH, UH, JUST OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, I WOULD, UH, SPECULATE 10,000 AN ACRE IS WHAT WE'VE GOT WITH THOSE TRACKS ON.
AND WE'VE DONE THIS, UH, OVER THE LAST, UH, 10 YEARS WHEN WE SEE TRACKS THAT, UH, AND, AND, UH, USE THIS TERMINOLOGY THAT ARE NOT AGRICULTURAL TRACKS THAT THEY'RE USED IN DEVELOPMENT AREAS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
WE PUT A MORE OF A DEVELOPMENT CODE ON THOSE.
AND, UH, THAT, THAT'S PRETTY, PRETTY CONSISTENT WITH WHAT WE'VE SEEN.
I'D TELL LIKE, FOR US TO WAIT TILL AFTER WALMART'S DOOR'S OPEN TO SEE WHAT GOES ON HERE IN KAMAN, I REALLY THINK IT'S GOING TO BUST LOOSE OVER HERE.
AND I THINK WE'RE SELLING OUT PRETTY CHEAP TODAY.
I, I REALLY FEEL THAT WE, WE OWE THE TAXPAYERS OF KAUFMAN COUNTY, UH, AS MUCH MONEY AS WE CAN GET 'EM
WELL, OF COURSE, SCHOOL TAXPAYERS ARE TAXPAYERS TOO.
SO, TOM, THE, UH, UH, OF COURSE, UH, WE'VE LOOKED AT THIS EXTENSIVELY AND, UH, IF WE WERE, IF WE WERE OUT THERE TRYING TO SELL IT TO SOMEBODY ELSE, UH, I WOULD SAY, YOU KNOW, LET IT OUT FOR BIDS AND DO ALL THAT.
BUT WE'RE NOT TRYING TO DO THIS TO MAKE MONEY.
WE'RE TRYING TO DO IT AS A PUBLIC SERVICE TO THE, TO THE SCHOOL DISTRICT.
IN OTHER WORDS, THEY'RE GOING TO, THEY'RE GOING TO BUILD A SCHOOL THERE THAT'S GOING TO BE, UH, BE THERE FOR I WOULD HOPE FOR A HUNDRED YEARS, YOU KNOW? AND, UH, AND THE SCHOOL, YOU KNOW, UH, IS A MAJOR PART OF ANY COMMUNITY.
AND, AND, UH, IT SEEMS TO BE THE TREND IN ALL THE CITIES THAT YOU GO TO, THAT THEY BUILD THEIR, THEIR SCHOOLS NEXT TO A MAJOR HIGHWAY WHERE PEOPLE PASSING THROUGH LOOK AT THAT SCHOOL AND THEY SAY, THEY SAY, WELL, YOU KNOW, THIS IS A, THIS IS A BEAUTIFUL SCHOOL.
YOU KNOW, OR I WANT MY KIDS TO GO TO SCHOOL HERE.
AND, UH, UH, IT'S A GOOD DEAL, YOU KNOW, FOR THE SCHOOL DISTRICT.
BUT THEN AGAIN, WE ALSO HAVE TO, UH, TO CONSIDER THE COMMERCIAL VALUE OF IT, UH, DOWN THE ROAD.
IF WE DIDN'T, IF WE DID NOT SELL IT TO THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, THEN WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GO THROUGH ALL THE, UH, THE COMMERCIAL END OF IT AND ALL THAT.
IN OTHER WORDS, UH, YOU KNOW, IF IT, IF WE HAD TO WAIT 10 MORE YEARS FOR IT TO BRING A DOLLAR A FOOT OR A DOLLAR AND A HALF A FOOT, AND THE SCHOOL MOVES OUT SOMEWHERE ELSE OUTSIDE OF KAUFMAN, I MEAN, UH, THE SCHOOL DISTRICT HAS EXPRESSED, UH, INTEREST IN STAYING IN KAUFMAN VERSUS MOVING OUTSIDE OF TOWN SOMEWHERE, WHICH THAT WOULD TAKE YOUR COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT OUTSIDE OF TOWN OFF THE LOOP.
SO, UH, YOU KNOW, THAT'S A, IT'S A, IT IS A DOUBLE EDGED SWORD.
IT LOOKS ME, YOU KNOW, BUT, BUT, UH, KAUFMAN, ISD IS A MAJOR PART OF THIS, UH, THIS COMMUNITY, YOU KNOW, AND I, AND THERE'S, UH, WHAT'S THE EMPLOYMENT OF THE SCHOOL DISTRICT? UM, RIGHT AT 600, I THINK IT'S 550 NOW.
WE'VE GIVEN UP A LOT OF TAX ABATEMENTS AND A LOT OF TAX A WAY TO BUSINESSES THAT EMPLOY A LOT LESS PEOPLE THAN THAT.
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UH, IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING, I BELIEVE THIS WOULD BE THE LOCATION OF A NEW HIGH SCHOOL.UH, AND OF COURSE THAT WILL REQUIRE BOND ELECTION FOR THE, UH, SCHOOL DISTRICT TO, TO DO, BUT, ALRIGHT, GOOD DISCUSSION.
OTHER, OTHER COMMENTS FROM ANYBODY? GO AHEAD.
DO I HAVE A MOTION, UH, TO MOVE FORWARD ON ITEM NUMBER ONE? I MOVE, IT WILL DO WITH THE, UH, LANGUAGE OF THE FIRST RIGHT OF REFUSAL ON THE COUNTY'S BEHALF.
AND I GUESS NEED TO READ THIS WHOLE, YOU NEED TO READ THE MOTION THERE.
OH NO, YOU HAVE GLASSES AFTER ALL THAT.
WELL, FOR NEXT FOUR OR FIVE DAYS.
HE'S REALLY HAD EYE SURGERY AND I HOPE IT TURNS OUT WELL FOR YOU.
I'LL HAVE TO HAVE MINE READ IT TOO.
AND, UH, YOU MIGHT HAVE JOHN LONG MAKE THESE EITHER BIGGER LETTERS NEXT TIME,
AND IN SHORTER, IN SHORTER SENTENCES.
THE SALE OF PROPERTY FROM KAUFMAN COUNTY TO THE COFFIN INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT FOR USE AS A SCHOOL OR SCHOOL FACILITY.
THE COUNTY'S NOT REQUIRED IN A LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE 2 7 2 0.001 L EITHER TO OBTAIN FAIR MARKET VALUE FOR THE PROPERTY, OR TO HAVE A COMPETITIVE BIDDING PROCEDURE TO SELL THE PROPERTY.
HOWEVER, THE COUNTY HAS OBTAINED FAIR MARKET VALUE AS SET FORTH IN THE MOST RECENT APPRAISAL OF THE PROPERTY AS REVIEWED AND CONSIDERED BY THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT, BASED ON THE OFFER OF THE COURT, SHOULD THAT BE THE OFFER OF THE SCHOOL? BY OFFER OF THE SCHOOL? YES.
BASED ON THE OFFER OF THE SCHOOL OF $18,000 ACRE FOR THE APPROXIMATELY 50 ACRES OF LAND.
AND THE ACCEPTANCE OF THE OFFER OF BY THE KAUFMAN, IS THAT BACKWARDS ACCEPTANCE OF THE OFFER BY THE, UH, COFFMAN, THE COUNTY.
KAUFMAN INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT.
I THINK IT SHOULD SAY COUNTY OF KAUFMAN JAMES, IS THAT THAT'S CORRECT.
THAT SHOULD BE THE COUNTY FOR IS THIS GO BACKWARDS, JOHN MUST HAVE WROTE THIS.
IN THE ACCEPTANCE OF OFFER BY CONMAN COUNTY MOTION IS MADE TO ACCEPT THE OFFER OF THE KAUFMAN INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT TO SELL THE ABOVE DESCRIBED PROPERTY AND HAVE THE ATTORNEYS FOR BOTH ENTITIES DRAFT AND SUBMIT THE NECESSARY DEED AND ANY AUTHORIZED DOCUMENTS.
WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR.
WE HAVE A, A SECOND FROM, UH, UH, COMMISSIONER, MEANING, UH, ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
SO THE MOTION CARRIES THREE TO TWO.
THANK EVERYBODY FOR THEIR HARD WORK IN DOING THIS.
PAULETTE, UH, WILL, UH, JOHN WILL BE WORKING WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT ATTORNEY TO WORK OUT THE DETAILS.
OR JAMES, YOU HEARD THE COMMENT ABOUT THE, UH, THANK YOU.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR BEING HERE.
UH, I THINK WE DISCUSSED, UH, SOME, UH, AFTER SOME, UH, TRAINING THAT WE HAD.
AND, UH, THIS, UH, HAS TO DO WITH THE, UH, CONSIDERING AN AGREEMENT, UH, TO RETAIN LEGAL COUNSEL, TO ASSIST COFFIN COUNTY AND ENVIRONMENTAL MATTERS.
UH, YOU HAVE A COPY, I BELIEVE EVERYBODY DOES, OF, UH, ALL I SENT THAT OUT.
AND I JUST IN BRING IT IN THE, IN THE PACKET.
DID YOU NOT? UH, THIS DEALS WITH THE, UH, REGULATION OF DUMP DUMPING GROUNDS.
THIS HAS, WE HAVE TWO OPTIONS, UH, ON THIS.
ONE WITH, UH, GOING WITH, UH, ALLISON BASS AND MCGEE.
HADN'T HEARD OF MCGEE, BUT, UH, AND THE, UH, UH, THE HEARINGS THAT ARE REQUIRED FOR, UH, THE LOCATION OF THE DUMPING GROUNDS IN COLTON COUNTY, WE HAVE TWO OPTIONS.
ONE IS ON A PER HOUR BASIS WITH, WITH ALLISON BASS, AND THEY WILL DO A TURN, UH, KEY JOB.
UH, BUT IT WOULD BE, WE WOULD PAY THEM BY THE HOUR.
AND THE SECOND, UH, PROPOSAL WOULD BE A FEE OF $12,000.
AND THERE WOULDN'T BE ANY EXTRA CHARGES, OR WE WOULDN'T GET INTO ANY, I MEAN, IT WAS JUST, THEY JUST TAKE CARE OF THE WHOLE THING.
BUT THERE ARE SOME LEGAL NOTICES THAT WILL HAVE TO BE PUBLISHED.
AND, UH, I AM AWARE, I THINK THAT, UH,
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OTHER COUNTIES HAVE PROBABLY, UH, PROCEEDED ALONG THESE SAME LINES.BUT, UH, ANYWAY, THAT'S THE, THAT'S THE ITEM.
DO WE HAVE SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT? WELL, I LIKE THE FLAT FEE PART, UH, IN THERE BECAUSE, UH, THIS IS INEVITABLY GOING TO GET COMPLICATED AS WE GET FURTHER INTO IT.
AND AT $240 AN HOUR PLUS $80 FOR DRIVING A CAR DOWN THE ROAD AND ALL THAT, I JUST, UH, THAT'S PRETTY GOOD.
THAT'S PRETTY GOOD MONEY FOR DRIVING A CAR DOWN THE ROAD.
YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHAT JIMMY PAY ALMOST ATTORNEY RATE.
BUT, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, IF HE HAS TO MAKE THREE OR FOUR TRIPS UP HERE, YOU KNOW, AND IT COULD, IT COULD WIND UP BEING BIG MONEY AT THAT $240 AN HOUR AND $80 AN HOUR FOR DRIVING.
SO, UH, I, I JUST THINK THE FLAT FEE'S THE WAY TO GO ON IT.
BUT THIS IS GOING TO REALLY BENEFIT THE, THE COUNTY BECAUSE WE, UH, IF WE DON'T, UH, IF WE DON'T PUT A CLAMP ON THE THING, YOU KNOW, SOMEBODY PULL IN HERE ON SOME OF THESE AIR CUPS OR LAND AND, UH, FIRE UP AND, AND REALLY, REALLY START, UH, TEARING THINGS UP AND COULD CAUSE US A LOT OF, CAUSE A LOT OF GRIEF.
WE NEED TO DEFINITELY ENGAGE IN THIS.
AND I'M KIND OF LEANING TOWARDS A FLAT FEE AS WELL, KEN.
AS LONG AS PUT DOWN A FLAT FEE THAT WE KNOW WHERE WE'RE AT, WE PAY THE FEE, AND WELL, AS LONG AS IT COVERS, YOU KNOW, ALL THE LEGAL NOTICES AND, AND, UM, EVERYTHING THAT THAT'S INVOLVED IN.
I WONDER IF THAT CODE, YOU KNOW, ANY LITIGATION, IF THERE'S ANY, UM, IN THE, IN THE FUTURE.
HAVE YOU HAD A CHANCE TO LOOK AT THAT? I HAVE.
IN UNUSUAL CIRCUMSTANCES, LITIGATION ATTORNEYS ARE AVAILABLE UNDER A SEPARATE CONTRACT, PROVIDE LEGAL COUNSEL AND OTHER SUPPORT ARE ALL PHASE OF LITIGATION.
AND THAT'S IN BOTH, THAT'S IN THE FLAT FEE AND THE HOURLY.
ANY LITIGATION WOULD BE SEPARATE.
MY QUESTION WOULD BE, UH, IS, IS JAMES AND JOHN, ARE THEY NOT, UH, ARE THEY NOT, UH, SPECIALIZED ENOUGH IN THIS, IN THIS MATTER TO HANDLE THAT FOR US? I MEAN, I, I, I CAN'T SPEAK FOR JOHN.
UM, I I KNOW I I'M DEFINITELY NOT.
UM, JOHN MAY HAVE SOME, SOME EXPERIENCE IN THIS AREA.
UM, YEAH, I I DON'T THINK THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE COULD, WE COULD SOLELY VIEW OURSELVES BETWEEN JOHN AND I.
BUT TO COVER ALL OUR BASES, WE, WE'D NEED SOMEBODY WHO YOU WOULD RECOMMEND THAT HAVING SOMEBODY WHO ABSOLUTELY SPECIALIZES IN THIS COUNTY OF YES, EXACTLY.
AND, AND, AND I WOULD AGREE WITH THE ASSESSMENT OF DOING THE FLAT FEE BECAUSE, UM, CONSIDERING MY EXPERIENCE IN, IN PRIVATE PRACTICE, I KNOW THE HOURLY RATE, IT, IT ADDS UP QUICKLY.
SO I THINK DOING THE, THE 12,000 WEEK, THE SMART MOVE, CONSIDERING WE HAVE TO HAVE TWO PUBLIC HEARINGS, I BELIEVE, RIGHT? YEAH.
I'M, I'M TOTALLY IN FAVOR OF DOING THE FLAT FEE JUDGE.
I AGREE WITH THE, WITH THE, OUR ATTORNEY'S RECOMMENDATION.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO, UH, APPROVE THE CONTRACT WITH, UH, ALLISON BASS AND MCGEE, UH, ON A FLAT FEE, UH, FOR WHAT HE WOULD LIKE TO DO.
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER SECOND SHANE, WE HAVE A SECOND FROM, UH, COMMISSIONER NING.
DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
NOW THE NEXT ONE IS, UH, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ALL MATTERS RELATED TO THE APPLICATION FOR THE COUNTY ENERGY TRANSPORTATION REINVESTMENT ZONE SEARCH, OR, UH, THAT'S WHAT I CALL IT.
YOU CALL IT CCC OR IS AFTER THE T.
SO I, UH, BUT ANYWAY, UH, IT'S, IT'S NOT A BREATH.
I HAVE SENT YOU EVERYTHING THAT, UH, WE, WE DO HAVE AN EXISTING CONTRACT, UH, WITH, UH, ALLISON BASS TO, UH, ASSIST US IN THIS.
AND I HAVE SENT YOU EVERYTHING THAT I HAVE RECEIVED AS THEY FORWARDED IT TO US.
AND WE DO HAVE, UH, YOU KNOW, THERE'S SEVERAL THINGS THAT, THAT WE NEED TO ACCOMPLISH.
AND I PUT THIS ON THE AGENDA BECAUSE IT'S A SHORT TIMELINE.
I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH OF THIS WE'LL BE ABLE TO DO TODAY, BUT WE NEED TO START THE DISCUSSION WITH THE APPRAISAL DISTRICT BECAUSE OF THE FACT THAT WE DO HAVE TO SET UP, UH, ONE OF THESE ZONES AT LEAST ONE
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ZONE.AND, UH, I SENT CHRIS THE INFORMATION.
HE, I DON'T THINK I EVER HEARD OF THIS UNTIL I CONTACTED HIM ABOUT IT, BUT, UH, VERY CONFIDENT, PREPARED.
WELL, THAT, THAT'S WHY IT'S SUPPOSED TO WORK.
THAT NEVER HAPPENS AT THE COUNTY.
THERE IS, OUR DIFFERENCE IS WE DON'T HAVE TO SCREEN PULL IT UP ON LEAST WE HAVE CV.
WHAT, UH, WHAT I ASKED CHRIS TO DO.
AND AGAIN, WE'RE, WE'RE, I KNOW MY UNDERSTANDING, UH, THE, UH, TECH STOCK MAY GRANT AN EXTENSION ON THIS
BUT IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT WE NEED TO AT LEAST DECLARE, OR WE HAVE TO DECLARE AT LEAST ONE AREA IN THE COUNTY, UH, AS A ZONE, AS ONE OF THESE ZONES.
BUT AFTER DOING THAT, IT CAN BE, IT CAN APPLY TO THE WHOLE COUNTY.
IN OTHER WORDS, I DON'T THINK WE'D WANT TO DECLARE THE WHOLE COUNTY BECAUSE YEAH.
BUT JUST BECAUSE WE DECLARE ONE AREA DOESN'T MEAN THAT THE REST OF THE COUNTY CANNOT BENEFIT FROM THIS.
NOW THAT BEING SAID, WHAT I, I, UH, THE, THE ONE THAT I'M THE MOST FAMILIAR WITH, AND I KNOW THERE'S OTHER ACTIVITY AND CHRIS MAY HELP US ON THAT, IS THE ONE OUT ON 3 53.
UH, AND THAT THE ROAD NUMBER RIGHT? 3 56.
AND SO I SENT THAT INFORMATION TO, UH, CHRIS, AND THAT IS A, THAT, I DON'T KNOW HOW THEY'RE GETTING THAT OIL OUT.
ARE THEY RUNNING A TRUCK OUT THERE? YEAH, THEY RUN THE TRUCKS OUT THERE.
THEY'RE MOVING THE, THE CREW FROM RIGHT THERE.
WHAT'S THE LOCATION OF THAT? UH, RIGHT ON, UH, THERE'S 3 86 RIGHT THERE, RIGHT OFF 4 29.
ACTUALLY, DO YOU HAVE A NAME OF ANYBODY THAT'S ON THAT ROAD AND WE CAN PULL IT UP? THAT, UH, UH, LANE.
UH, AND THEN THE AIKEN, UH, THE AIKEN'S ACTUALLY ON THE KIN, WHAT'S HIS, BRAD? YEAH.
SO WHAT'S THE LOCATION OF VAN? UH, 3 3 34.
IT'S GONNA BE ABOUT RIGHT IN HERE.
WHERE'S 3 53? RIGHT HERE? YEAH.
THIS IS WHERE? THIS OVER THERE PRETTY GOOD.
RIGHT? RIGHT IN KEN LANE LIVES RIGHT THERE.
UH, JERRY WILSON'S RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET.
AND IT'S IN KIND HIGH CHEMICAL MOVING LAND THERE ON TEENTH.
SO WHAT, WHAT ARE THEY DOING? THEY JUST HAUL OIL OUT THERE ALL TIME, OR SALT WATER.
AND THEY BRING SALT WATER BACK IN.
THEY ARE PUMPING SALT WATER DOWN.
THEY ARE USING IT AS AN INJECTION.
THERE'S ONE CLOSE TO IT THAT'S AN INJECTION.
AND HOW LONG HAS THAT FIELD BEING IN EXISTENCE? UH, THEY JUST STARTED THIS ONE.
THE OTHER FIELD THAT'S IN EXISTENCE IS UP HERE OFF OF 3 29 IN, IN THREE 30 UP THE OLD, UH, HOW MANY ACRES IN, IN THE FIELD, DO YOU KNOW? I'M NOT, I'M NOT SURE.
BUT I DO KNOW FROM WHAT I'VE, UH, I TALKED TO A GUY THE OTHER DAY ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR WELL, UH, AND, UH, THE, WELL THAT THEY, I UNDERSTAND THEY'RE, UH, GETTING A PERMIT DRILL ANOTHER WELL, BUT THIS, WELL, I WAS TOLD BY, UH, THE GUY THAT DEALS IN THE OIL AND GAS BARRELS, WHICH TRIPS EVERY DAY.
WELL, THE REASON I SAY THAT WE'RE, WE'RE LOOKING AT, AT PRECINCT THREE, BUT IN PRECINCT FOUR THERE'S A, WELL, THERE'S A FIELD DOWN THERE OFF 40 17.
WELL, THEY'VE BEEN, AND THEY'VE BEEN TEARING THE ROAD UP 40 YEARS.
WHEN I CAME IN THAT ROAD, IT BASICALLY WASN'T NOTHING BUT A HAUL TRUCK.
AND I WENT IN THERE AND HAD TO FIX IT BEFORE I GOT IT FIXED.
THEY RAN THE TRUCKS IN THERE AND TORE THE HECK OUTTA THE ROAD AND HAD TO GO BACK AND RE-LINK IT.
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IT AND THEY TORE IT UP AGAIN AND OUR CHIP SEALED IT AGAIN, AND NOW IT'S TORE UP AGAIN.SO, YOU KNOW, I WANNA BE SURE THAT THAT, UH, AND I'VE GOT ONE ON 40 16 ALSO THAT THE, THAT THE FIELD'S BEEN THERE 40 OR 50 YEARS AND THEY'VE COME IN THERE AND, UH, LAST SUMMER AND DID A WORKOVER ON IT.
AND, UH, RIGHT AFTER THEY, THEY TORE IT ALL UP AND I WENT IN THERE AND, AND, UH, FIXED THE BAD PLACES IN IT AND THEN RE CHIP SEALED.
AND, YOU KNOW, IT'S GOOD TO GO NOW, BUT IF THEY, IF THEY DECIDE TO DO ANYMORE EXPIRATION OVER BECAUSE, 'CAUSE I GOT A PAD BILL THAT'S, YOU KNOW, PROBABLY 10 TIMES AS BIG AS BUILT.
I MEAN, IT LOOKS LIKE THEY PUT IN THERE ANY TIME.
SO IN THIS PARTICULAR, UM, ON, ON THIS PARTICULAR AREA, I WOULD IMA THAT IT, IT HAD AN OIL PRODUCER WELD ON IT MANY YEARS AGO.
UH, AND I DON'T KNOW, PROBABLY FOUR YEARS AGO, WHATEVER I REMEMBER THEY TAPPED THEM OFF BASICALLY ABOUT, I WANNA SAY AROUND FIRST OF 1980.
BECAUSE I WAS DOING A BUNCH OF WORK FOR SUN OIL.
I, I CAN SHOW YOU PAD SITES ALL OVER THIS.
THEY BURNED OFF THE SOUR GAS AND ALL THAT STUFF OUT THERE.
SO IT'S BEEN THERE A LONG TIME.
BUT FOR PURPOSES OF THIS DISCUSSION, ALL WE NEED TO DO IS JUST NAME ONE AREA.
AND IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT IT CAN'T BE USED IN OTHER AREAS BECAUSE IT, IT WILL BE USED IN OTHER AREAS.
BECAUSE I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE WE ESTABLISHED ONE AREA.
I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE, 'CAUSE I ALREADY GOT THE MONEY SPENT TO FIX THE ROAD AND I'M GOING HAVE TO DO IT AGAIN BECAUSE THEY'RE HAULING, UH, CREW DOWN THERE AND I DON'T KNOW IF THEY'RE HAULING SALT WATER BACK IN OR NOT.
I CAN'T GET THE TRUCK DRIVER TO STOP ANYMORE.
IN OTHER WORDS, I'VE STOPPED HIM SEVERAL TIMES AND TRIED TO GET HIM TO SLOW DOWN AND DO THIS, DO THAT.
WHAT YOU WANT TO DO, I THINK WHETHER THIS THING WORKS IS IT'S JUST LIKE A TIP AND CREW'S VALUE IN THAT ZONE IS DEDICATED TO NEW R REPAIRS.
AND, AND YOU CREATE A ZONE THAT YOU HAVE TO HAVE AT LEAST ONE PROJECT IN TO MEET THIS CRITERIA IN THAT ZONE.
YOU CAN HAVE 50 OTHER PROJECTS OUTSIDE THE ZONE ANYWHERE IN THE COUNTY.
YOU KNOW, WE ONLY ANTICIPATE ON USING SOME OF THAT MONEY.
BUT YOU WANT TO CREATE THE ZONE WITH THE LEAST AMOUNT OF POTENTIAL INCREASED VALUE.
BECAUSE ANY INCREASED VALUE YOU GET, YOU'RE INCREASED TAXABLE VALUE IN THAT ZONE.
YOU'RE NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO RECAPTURE UNTIL USE IT FOR ROAD PROJECTS OR WHATEVER DOWN THE ROAD.
AND IT COULD, THERE'S A POSSIBILITY IF YOU HAD A LOT OF OIL PRODUCTION IN THE COUNTY, IT WOULD BE GOOD BECAUSE YOU COULD USE THAT TO OFFSET YOUR ROAD BRIDGE FUND.
WE'RE NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO DO THAT.
AND YOU KNOW, LET'S GO BACK AND THE INITIAL, UH, MINIMUM AMOUNT, YOU KNOW, THEY SAY WE'RE ENTITLED TO IS 235,000, WHICH IS, I MEAN THAT'S GOOD.
THAT'S GOOD MONEY, BUT IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT IT VERY LIKELY WILL PERHAPS EVEN DOUBLE OR TRIPLE BECAUSE THERE ARE SOME COUNTIES THAT ARE NOT GOING THROUGH THE HASSLE, SO TO SPEAK, TO EVEN APPLY FOR.
SO NOW I, I UNDERSTAND THAT SOME OF THOSE COUNTIES NOW ARE GETTING HEAT FROM THE PUBLIC, UH, FOR NOT DOING IT.
AND THIS MONEY, YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO REMEMBER IS COMING AND YOU AND I GAS UP OR DIESEL UP OUR TRUCKS, WE PAY THAT 20 CENT A GALLON.
AND I DON'T KNOW WHY ANYBODY WOULDN'T WANT TO USE, I MEAN, IT'S MONEY THAT WE'RE BEING REIMBURSED FOR, FOR THESE TRUCKS THAT GO UP AND DOWN OUR ROAD AND IT AFFECTS US A LITTLE DIFFERENTLY.
AND ONE OF THE REASONS THAT I WAS SHOCKED WHETHER WE SAW THAT WE WERE GONNA GET THIS KIND OF MONEY IS BECAUSE WE HAVE A LOT OF OVERWEIGHT TRUCK PERMITS IN OUR COUNTY BECAUSE OF THE GRAPPL, YOU KNOW, AND SAND.
AND SO THAT IS, UH, I THINK PART OF THE EQUATION.
WELL, NOT ALL OF IT RIGHT, BUT I THINK 20 OR 25%.
IT'S A PORTION OF THE EQUATION.
SO IT, IT HELPS IN, IN THAT REGARD TOO.
UH, BUT TO SIMPLIFY THINGS, IT WOULD SEEM TO ME THAT WE WOULD JUST DESIGNATE ONE AREA AND THEN THE OTHER.
THAT'S, I, THAT'S MORE OR LESS WHAT I THINK, UH, HAS BEEN RECOMME RECOMMENDED.
BUT IT CAN BE USED IN ALL, ALL THE COUNTY AND THEN I PROPOSED USED ALL OVER.
AND I THINK WHAT WE'LL DO AS FAR AS DIVIDING THAT WE'LL JUST DO AN ARM RAIC MATCH.
START LIFTING WEIGHTS AGAIN,
BUT I MEAN, Y'ALL HAVE BEEN ABLE TO, YOU KNOW, WORK THROUGH THOSE KIND OF THINGS IN THE PAST.
AND SO I'M SURE WE'LL, I JUST WANT TO GET US TO THAT POINT WHEN WE GET TO THAT POINT.
WELL, THIS SEEMS LIKE A GOOD SITE SINCE IT'S A FAIRLY RECENT ACTIVITY AND YEAH.
THE ONLY REASON WE HAVE TO CREATE THE ZONE IS TO GET THIS GRANT GRANT MONEY.
UH, IF YOU CREATE THE ZONE, ONCE YOU COMPLETE THE PROJECT IN THE ZONE, YOU CAN DISSOLVE THE TURS.
OH, IT, IT SAYS IT GOES FOR 10 YEARS.
SO YOU HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT CHRIS AND EVERYBODY ELSE KEEPING TRACK OF THAT DOLLAR AMOUNT FOR, FOR 10 YEARS.
BUT IF WE CREATE, IF WE FIX, IF WE DESIGNATE ONE ROAD IN
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THAT ZONE AND WE FIX AS A PROJECT, WE COMPLETE THAT PROJECT, WE CAN DISSOLVE THE TURS.AND WE CAN ALWAYS CREATE ONE DOWN THE ROAD SOMEWHERE IF THINGS HAPPEN AGAIN.
BUT RIGHT NOW IT'S GRANT MONEY THAT THEY'RE GIVING OUT AND IT'S KIND OF, IT'S A MECHANISM THEY'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO, UH, OVER COUNTIES, YOU KNOW, THAT DO HAVE A LOT OF OIL AND GAS CAN, CAN KEEP TRACK OF THEIR ROAD DAMAGE.
IF WE DON'T HAVE THAT, BUT WE'VE GOT DAMAGE FROM THIS TRUCK.
AND I THINK THE OTHER THING, THE, UH, THE PEOPLE THAT I'VE, AND YOU'VE TALKED TO PEOPLE ABOUT THIS PROBABLY MORE THAN I HAVE, BUT THE CONCERN IS THE LEGISLATURE MAY, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A CHANCE THEY MIGHT RE-UP THIS NEXT TIME, YOU KNOW MM-HMM
AND SO WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE GOOD STEWARDS OF WHAT THEY GIVE US.
CHRIS, I GUESS YOU'VE GOT IT UP BACK THERE.
WE'VE GOT IT UP SO WE, WE CAN BLOW IT UP, EXPAND IT TO WHATEVER KIND OF AREA YOU WANT TO LOOK AT.
BEFORE WE DO THAT, LET ME ASK YOU A QUESTION.
IF WE COME IN AND DEVELOP THIS SEA TURS ALONG, OR WHATEVER WE CALL IT ALONG THE THREE FIFTY SIX OR YEAH.
3 56, WHAT, UH, AND WE GOT THIS OIL WELL THAT SUPPOSEDLY IS PRODUCING GREAT AMOUNTS OF OIL.
IF, IF WHAT I WAS TOLD CORRECT.
WOULD THAT ELIMINATE, I MEAN, HOW, HOW DO WE TAX THAT? WE DON'T, WE, WE'VE NEVER HAD A LOT OF OIL PLAY IN OUR, OUR COUNTY THAT I'M AWARE OF AND, AND WE'RE NOT AWARE OF A WHOLE LOT.
WE RESOURCE THOSE, UH, UTILITIES OUT TO OUR CAPITAL RESOURCE, UH, UH, UH, GROUP.
SO WE WOULD JUST NEED TO IDENTIFY THOSE PROPERTIES AND MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE AWARE OF 'EM SO THEY CAN, UH, START APPRAISING THOSE PROPERS.
AND I'M SURE THEY GET PERMITS FROM RAILROAD COMMISS SHOULD FROM RAILROAD COMMISSION, THEY SHOULD GET ALL THAT INFORMATION.
BUT YOU KNOW, A LOT OF TIMES, UH, THINGS LIKE THAT MAY NOT, UH, UH, THEY, THEY CAN SLIP THROUGH THE CHANNEL.
SO IF WE KNOW EXACTLY WHERE IT IS, WE'LL CERTAINLY, UM, UH, SEND THAT INFORMATION TO HIM.
I KNOW THE, UH, THE DEVELOPER OR THE, UH, DRILLER OF THIS WELL IS O'BRIEN, UH, ENERGY COMPANY OUT OF REPO AND I WITH IT.
AND I THINK YOU MAY, UH, AND IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THEY ARE GOING START ANOTHER WELL, WHAT I'M YEAH.
SO THAT WAS MY REASON FOR JUST TRYING TO FIND ONE AREA THAT'S ACTIVE THAT, THAT WE CAN MOVE.
AND THIS IS A NEW IT, OTHERWISE WE USE YOURS TIME, IT MATTERS NOT TO ME.
WHAT, WELL, I JUST WANT TO BE SURE THAT WE CAN GET A PORTION OF THAT MONEY.
'CAUSE IT'S MONEY THAT I'VE ALREADY SPENT IT, I'M GONNA HAVE TO PROBABLY DO AGAIN BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW THAT THEY WILL, WILL LET US USE THAT FOR WORK WE'VE ALREADY DONE.
I MEAN, I NO, THE MONEY, WELL, I MEAN I'M HAVE TO NEW, NEW, NEW.
IF IT IS GO BACK AND REDO IT THIS YEAR, THEN THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S QUALIFIED.
THE, THE FIELD DOWN AROUND THE BACK IN, BEHIND BECKER, UH, OH YEAH.
IS IT, I DON'T SEE ANY ACTIVITY ANYMORE.
UH, YOU KNOW, THEY, I DON'T SEE ANY TRUCKS.
THERE'S NO WELLS THAT YOU CAN SEE IS THAT'S, YEAH.
THAT THING'S BEEN THERE EVER SINCE I CAN REMEMBER.
BUT THEY, I THINK THEY, WHICH, WHICH ONE OF THESE WELLS, WHICH ONE OF THESE PROPERTIES IS GOING TO BE LESS LIKELY TO INCREASE IN VALUE IF THEY'RE GONNA BE ADDING MORE WELLS ON THIS PARTICULAR LOCATION RIGHT THERE, THEN THAT MIGHT INCREASE THE VALUE OUT THERE.
THAT WELL DOES, DOES A A WELL INCREASE THE PROPERTY VALUE ON THE TAX ROAD? OR IS THE PRODUCTION OF THE WELL TAXED AS A, A PRODUCTION OF THE WELL, YEAH.
I MEAN IT DOESN'T RAISE A PROPERTY VALUE, DOES IT? NOT, NOT PER SE JUST, YOU KNOW, UNLESS THERE'S, UNLESS IT'S A SALE OF THE PROPERTY OR MAYBE RIGHT.
THE OTHER ADVENTURES THAT COME IN AROUND THAT.
BUT I, I DON'T UH, IS THIS CLOSE TO THOSE, UH, OLD QUERIES THAT ARE, THAT ARE UP THERE? NOT FAR, NO.
IT'S, UH, IT'S HALFWAY BETWEEN, UH, TERRELL.
IT'S ABOUT FOUR MILES OUT OF TER.
UM, YOU KNOW, IIII DON'T SEE THAT IN THE FUTURE OF ANYTHING, UH, EXPANDING RIGHT OFF THE BAT, YOU KNOW, SO WHERE THAT LOCATION IS, SO IF THEY TAX PRODUCTION, THAT'S NOT TAX, THE PROPERTY VALUE DOESN'T NECESSARILY GO UP UNLESS THE PROPERTY WOULD CHANGE.
THAT'S WHAT I WAS, THAT'S WHAT I WAS, YOU KNOW, TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW MINERAL RIGHT.
IS THIS THE BEST PLACE TO, BUT YEAH, YOUR, YOUR MINERAL RIGHTS AND EVERYTHING THAT WOULD GO ALONG WITH THOSE PROPERTIES.
NOW IF THEY START, IF IT IS A VERY ACTIVE WELL AND THEN THEY START, UH, DOING SOME OF THE RESEARCH AND SOME OF THESE OTHER PROPERTIES AROUND IT HAVE UH, RIGHTS AS WELL, THEN YOU MAY START SEEING SOME OF THAT.
BUT, UH, THAT, THAT WOULD GO WITH THE EXPANSION THAT YOU'RE SEEING RIGHT NOW IN THE PRODUCTION OF IT.
THE GUY THAT I TALKED TO WHEN I WENT OUT TO THE SIDE BACK, I DUNNO, A COUPLE, I GUESS A YEAR AND A HALF AGO OR SOMETHING FROM O'BRIEN, THEY WERE REOPENING OLD WELLS IS WHAT I UNDERSTAND.
OR I THINK THEY ACTUALLY DRILLED, DRILLED A WELL NEXT TO AN OLD, WELL, LIKE A HUNDRED YARDS AWAY OR SOMETHING.
PROBABLY IN A HORIZONTAL OR SOMETHING.
I DON'T KNOW ENOUGH ABOUT THAT BUSINESS TO EVEN TALK ABOUT IT, BUT
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THAT'S, THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT WE'RE DOING.OF COURSE, I, I WANT 'EM TO COME ABOUT THREE MILES EAST, YOU KNOW, BUT, UH, THEY, THEY HAVEN'T SHOWED UP YET.
BUT LIKE I SAID, WE JUST HAVE TO HAVE ONE PROJECT IN THE ZONE TO DO.
AND ONCE THAT PROJECT'S COMPLETED BY THAT SUMMER, WHATEVER, WE COULD DISSOLVE THE ZONE AND SEE THAT.
AND YOU CAN ALWAYS CREATE ONE NEXT YEAR AND THE YEAR AFTER THAT AND THE YEAR AFTER THAT FROM NOW ON, YOU'D BE ABLE TO CREATE A NEW ZONE.
ANY PLACE YOU WANT TO DO THAT WITH.
AND IF YOU DID HAVE A LOT OF OLD ACTIVITY IN ONE SPOT, MAYBE YOU DO WANNA CREATE A ZONE AND GET THE INCREASED VALUE OFF OF THAT TO, UH, REPLACE ROAD AND BRIDGE TAX.
IF YOU, YOU KNOW, IF YOU GOT COST X AMOUNT OF DOLLARS TO REPAIR ROADS IN THE COUNTY, MAYBE INSTEAD OF GOING UP A PENNY ON THE ROAD BRIDGE TAX, MAYBE YOU JUST TAKE AN INCREASED VALUE TAX TO KEEP FROM GOING UP ON THAT ROAD BRIDGE TAX.
BUT I DON'T SEE THAT HAPPENING AROUND HERE.
BUT WE'RE NOT GETTING MARRIED THIS THING FOR 10 YEARS IS WHAT I'M SAYING.
WE'RE, WE'RE JUST DOING THIS RIGHT NOW.
CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG TO GET THE GRANT MONEY.
I DON'T, NOT THE INCREASED VALUE IN THE PROPERTY.
I DON'T SOMEBODY TO COME BACK SIX MONTHS FROM NOW AND SAY, WELL YOU GUYS WERE ASLEEP AT THE WHEEL.
YOU KNOW, AND, AND, UH, 'CAUSE ESPECIALLY IF THIS MONEY DOUBLES, I MEAN THAT TALKING ABOUT'S PRETTY SERIOUS.
WELL, I'M, I'M AGREEABLE TO USING THAT.
UH, CHRIS, WHAT DO YOU KNOW, UNDERSTAND WHAT WE NEED FROM YOU.
WE JUST NEED THE, THE PARAMETERS OF WHAT, WHAT YOU'RE OUTLINING IN, IN, UH, THAT, THAT AREA.
THEN WE CAN, UH, CODE IT IN OUR SYSTEM AND, UH, KEEP UP WITH WHEN THAT, UH, GOES INTO EFFECT.
AND AS MR. CLARKS MENTIONED, YOU JUST, IT'S KIND OF LIKE THE TIF ZONES OVER IN TAROT, BUT WE JUST, UH, WE, WE SET IT UP AS THE BASE YEAR AND MONITOR IT FROM UH, UH, FUTURE YEARS.
AND IT HAS TO BE, UH, MAY ALREADY KNOW, BUT THE PROPERTIES HAVE TO BE, UH, IN HOLD.
WE CAN'T JUST GO LIKE 30 FEET DOWN THE, WE, WE'VE GOTTA TAKE AN ENTIRE TAXABLE.
THE IB PROPERTY HAVE 10 LANES PROPERTY.
THE, THE, THE ZONE WOULD GO DOWN ROAD, BUT THE PROPERTY'S MADE, I MEAN THE ZONE MAY LOOK LIKE IT'S RIGHT HERE BECAUSE THE PROPERTY, IF IT TOUCHES ANY PART OF A PIECE OF PROPERTY YEAH.
TOUCH ANY PIECE IT ON THAT ROAD.
WE DON'T HAVE TO DO IT UNTIL THE ROAD'S LEADING DOWN TO IT.
DOES IT HAVE, IT HAS TO BE ON BOTH SIDES, RIGHT? YEAH.
SO THE ALONG WHATEVER IT IS, 3 56, ALL THE WAY FROM 4 29 TO, TO THE WELL SITE, WE CAN DO IT THEN.
CAN MAYBE YOU HIT WITH CHRIS AND RIGHT.
DESIGNATE THAT AND UH, SO WHERE'S 4 29 ON THIS MAP? IT'S OVER HERE.
CHRIS, CAN YOU SHOW US UP? SURE.
I JUST DON'T MIND YOU BETTER GO BACK, GET YOUR MONEY BACK RIGHT THERE.
ALRIGHT, KEN, THE, THE AREA WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS, UH, JUST 3 56 GO, GO UP A LITTLE BIT.
COMES OFF RIGHT AND GOES BACK THIS WAY.
IS THAT YELLOW? THAT'S JUST A, I THINK THAT MAY BE THE MR. LANE'S PROPERTY.
SO IT'S GONNA BE RIGHT, RIGHT HERE IS WHERE WHERE THE WEBSITE'S GONNA BE.
BUT THE AREA WE WOULD DO WOULD BE WHERE JUST 3 56? YEAH.
ACTUALLY, UH, IT'S GONNA BE RIGHT HERE.
YOU SAY THIS IS KIM LANE PROPERTY.
UH, YEAH, WE'RE GOING BACKWARDS AT THAT.
THIS COMES OFF 4 29 MAKES THAT FIRST CORNER HERE, COMES AROUND HERE.
SO THE WELL SIDE IS RIGHT HERE IF Y'ALL CAN SEE THAT.
SO WE, WE COULD GO FROM RIGHT THERE UP THAT, UP THAT COUNTY ROAD AND CATCH THE PROPERTIES ON BOTH SIDES THAT HELP YOU ANY YES SIR.
UH, IT DOESN'T EXTEND BACK FROM THE SUBJECT PROPERTY THERE, THERE'S THREE MORE PARCELS ON THAT UH, UH, CORNER.
DOES IT, DOES THE 3 56 GO ALL THE WAY TO THAT OTHER COUNTY ROAD? UH, NO IT DOESN'T GO ALL THE WAY THROUGH, BUT UH, THE DEVELOPER OR THE GUY THAT OWNS ALL THAT HAS COME TO ME AND ASKED ME TO REOPEN ALL THE ROAD UP THROUGH THERE.
AND THESE DAYS I'VE GOTTA DO THAT.
SO WE WOULD JUST GEAR IT TO OR IDENTIFY TO THAT CORNER POINT, RIGHT? YEAH.
ACTUALLY WE DIDN'T HAVE TO GO THAT FAR.
DIDN'T YOU SAY THE PROPERTY, THE WELL SIDE IS IN THIS BIG PIECE OF PROPERTY RIGHT HERE? RIGHT THERE? YES.
YOU JUST START, START FROM RIGHT HERE AND GO THAT, THAT WAY.
IS THIS ALL PROPERTY OWNER CHRIS? YES SIR.
WELL, WHEN, IF IT TOUCHES ANY PART, THAT'S ALL.
THE WHOLE THING HAS TO BE FROM MY UNDERSTANDING.
BUT WOULD THAT TO GOOD ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE ROAD? YEAH.
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SO IT WOULD INCLUDE ALL THE LITTLE PROPERTIES OF 3 55 ALL THE WAY TO THE HIGHWAY 3 56.THAT'S 3 56 ALL THE WAY TO FOUR NINE.
DO, DO, ARE YOU AWARE OF WHOSE PROPERTY THE, THE WELL'S ON? YOU GONNA PULL THAT? A UH, BRAD.
UH, CRAIG BUILT A HOUSE OUT THERE.
YEAH, THAT'S A NEW HOUSE RIGHT THERE.
WELL WE GOT IT, UH, IDENTIFIED RIGHT THEN.
BUT IT'LL BE PROPERTIES ON BOTH SIDES.
BUT IT DOESN'T, IT DOESN'T GO THE ENTIRE LENGTH OF THE ROAD.
IT JUST RUNS THE SIDE BACK START.
NOW IF THERE'S 3 56, GO ALL THE WAY OVER TO 4 29.
WELL THEN 3 56 STARTS THERE AT, THAT'S, WE DON'T HAVE TO HAVE A CONNECT.
I MEAN IT WOULD BE, THAT'S, WOULD IT BE SIMPLER? THAT'S SEVERAL.
WHICH WAY? THEY BRING THE TRUCKS IN 10.
THEN THE OTHER OPTION WOULD BE IF WE GO THIS WAY, COME UP LIKE THAT RIGHT THERE THAT WAY.
AND WE'D ELIMINATE ALL THOSE PROPERTIES RIGHT THERE.
THERE'S, THERE'S MORE LARGER PROPERTY.
IF YOU CAME THIS WAY AND CAME THIS WAY AND WENT THAT WAY, SEE IT'S LESS PROPERTIES ALSO.
I MEAN KENNETH MOODY'S I THINK.
RIGHT? WELL, KENNETH MOODY AND, UH, NEIL GAZE.
THAT, THAT'S ALL THE GAZE THERE.
SO MAY MAYBE THE ZONE WOULD COME THIS WAY AND DO LIKE THAT RIGHT TO HERE, BUT THEN AS OPPOSED TO GOING THAT WAY, IT'S ABOUT SIX ONE AND A HALF DOZEN.
SO WE'RE NOT GONNA BE BURIED TO IT ANYWAY.
WE CAN, WE CAN DO IT AWAY WITH IT WHENEVER WE GET READY.
JUST TELL US WHICH WAY YOU GO LEFT.
IT'S MORE, UH, AGRICULTURAL PROPERTY.
I, I, I WOULD THINK THAT'D BE THE BEST WAY TO GO BY THE NEIL GAY AND, UH, KENNETH BOOTY AND BACK, BACK IN THROUGH THERE.
I USED TO DRIVE A SCHOOL BUS OUT THERE ABOUT 45 YEARS AGO.
I DON'T REMEMBER IN VERY GOOD SHAPE THERE.
YOU HAD MUD GRIPS ON THE BUS? NO, WE HAD BRIDGE CAVED.
THAT'S NOT A GOOD DEAL SCHOOL.
DO, UH, I I THINK I DON'T, AND JAMES, YOU MAY HAVE TO HELP US HERE TO USE THE WAY IT'S WORDED ON HERE TO USE ON THE AGENDA ON ITEM THREE.
DO YOU THINK THERE'S ANY REASON WHY WE CAN'T GO AHEAD AND DESIGNATE THAT TODAY? WELL, ACTUALLY I WAS LOOKING INTO THIS YESTERDAY, DOUG.
I THINK THERE'S A, A REQUIREMENT THAT WE HAVE.
UM, WE, WE PUBLISHED THIS IN, IN, UH, THE NEWSPAPER, THE INTENT TO CREATE THE ZONE.
THAT WAS, WE, I DON'T, I DON'T SEE THE REASON WHY.
WE, WE, WE, WE HAD THE, BUT WE HAD THE PUBLIC HEARING, RIGHT? AND THEN WE PUBLISHED ANGIE, WHERE ARE WE PUBLISHED IT.
SO I THINK WE WE'RE CLEAR ON WE HAVE TO HAVE ANOTHER PUBLIC HEARING OR NO, WE CAN'T, WE HAVE TO HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING 30 DAYS AFTER WE HAD THAT FIRST PUBLIC HEARING.
OR WE CAN'T ACT ON NO LATER THAN 30 DAYS IS WHAT THE REQUIREMENT IS.
AND WE'RE GETTING, YOU KNOW, GETTING PRETTY CLOSE THERE.
SO SEE FEBRUARY 7TH WAS SUPPOSED TO BE IN THE DEADLINE TO HAVE THIS IN, I BELIEVE.
LIKE I SAID, THERE'S A GOOD POSSIBILITY THAT THE COMMISSION'S GOING TO EXTEND THE DEADLINE, BUT THE THOUGHT PROCESS IS WHAT IF THEY DON'T AND YOU LOST YOUR CHANCE AT IT.
SO WE NEED, WE NEED TO HAVE OUR DEAL DONE BY FEBRUARY 7TH, THEN THEY'LL POSTPONE IT FOR TWO MONTHS.
BUT IF WE DON'T GET IT DONE BEFORE FEBRUARY 7TH AND THEY DON'T POSTPONE IT, WE, WE LOST.
WELL AND WE UH, WELL THE MEETING MONDAY, I MEAN WE CAN HAVE THIS ON THE AGENDA AS WELL, BUT I GUESS MY QUESTION IS SHOULD WE WAIT TILL MONDAY OR DO WE WANT TO GO AHEAD AND ACT ON THIS DESIGNATING OR WHATEVER IT IS, 3 55 AND 3 56.
I, I DON'T, I DON'T SEE ANY REASON WHY WE COULDN'T WAIT ON MONDAY.
WELL YOU GONNA DO 3 55 OR 3 53? WELL, THREE 50.
SO 3 53 I CAN'T SEE GOOD ENOUGH TO TELL.
SO THIS NOT 4 29 HERE, NINE IS UP HERE.
BUT IT GOES, IT COMES OUT HERE LIKE THIS.
IT GOES UP AND THEN WE GO UP HERE AND THEN DOWN THIS.
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THIS WOULD BE THE ZONE.SO IT'S JUST PART OF 3 53, RIGHT? YEAH.
JUST TO THE, JUST TO THE TURN.
WELL ATTORNEY WOULD HAVE TO GO TAKE HIS PROPERTY IN YOU.
YOU COULD THEY TAKE THE ZONE AROUND THIS WHOLE PIECE OF PROPERTY RIGHT HERE AND THEN GO BACK AND GO BACK DOWN THAT THREE, WHATEVER IT WAS.
THAT'S A THOUSAND ACRE TRACK THAT THAT YOU'RE CLICKING ON THERE.
THAT LARGE TRACK, WHICH IS THE GATE PROPERTY.
SEE IT, IT APPEARS TO ME THAT WE DO, IF IT HAS TO BE CONTINUOUS, THE ZONE LOOKS UP LIKE THIS, LIKE THAT HERE, FOLLOW THE PROPERTY AROUND.
THEN LOCK THAT RIGHT THERE AND THEN COULD GO PROBABLY BACK IT UP.
IF I TAKE IN THIS ONE RIGHT HERE AND GET ANY PROPERTIES THAT TOUCH FROM HERE ON THAT ROAD, I WENT BACK AROUND PROBABLY BE PRETTY PUT INTO THE ZONE.
WELL, UH, YEAH, SO WE'RE NOT MARRIED TO SINCE IT'S NOT YEAH, WE JUST WANNA MAKE SURE WE'VE GOT EVERYTHING COVERED.
SO THAT'S GOING TO BE HUGE BECAUSE OF YOU GOING TO HAVE TO GO BOTH OF THOSE ROADS.
IN OTHER WORDS, IF THAT'S A THOUSAND ACRES WHERE NEIL GA IS YOU HAVE, YOU'RE GOING TO COME ALL THE WAY DOWN PAST 3 55 AND THEN SINCE IT TOUCHES ONE CORNER OF THAT NUMBER 6 1 6 5 5 8 AND IT'S GOING TO TAKE IN THAT WHOLE TRACK, WHICH BUTTS UP TO THE OTHER TRACK WHERE THE WELL'S BEING DRILLED OVER OVER HERE I THINK.
YEAH, I THINK HE'S GETTING THERE.
SO YEAH, SO IF THERE IS ANY MORE PLAY OVER THERE, IT'S GOING TO TAKE IN EVERYTHING.
IF THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE LEASE OVER THERE, IF THERE'S ANY MORE OIL FILE THAT'S GONNA TAKE EVERYTHING, WHICH WILL SIMPLIFY MATTERS BECAUSE YOU WON'T HAVE TO GO BACK AND RE-LINK ANYTHING.
DID YOU LOOK AT THIS THING I SENT YOU YESTERDAY? IT SAYS ONCE YOU DECIDE ON THE SEARCH OR C TURS, THE APPRAISAL DISTRICT MAP OF THE ROADWAY AND THE LIST OF ASSOCIATED TAX PARCEL SHOULD INCLUDE THE FOLLOWING INFORMATION, PARCEL TAX ID NUMBER, WHICH YOU HAVE PROBABLY ALREADY HAVE, AND PROPERTY DESCRIPTION FROM D RECORDS.
AND YOU'LL BE ABLE TO LIKE WHAT HE'S GOT HIGHLIGHTED RIGHT THERE.
UM, WE CAN COMPOSE THAT INTO A SPREADSHEET WITH YOUR ACCOUNT NUMBERS, LEGAL DESCRIPTIONS, UH, MARKET VALUE, ASSESS VALUE, ALL OF THAT INFORMATION.
AND IT SAYS ATTACH THE MAP AND THE LIST OF TAX PARCEL AS AN EXHIBIT TO THE ORDER CREATED THE SERVICE.
SO WILL THAT NOT TAKE IN THIS, THIS PARCEL RIGHT HERE ALSO SINCE IT'S COMING DOWN THIS ROAD, IT HAS BE BOTH SIDES OF THE ROAD.
IN OTHER WORDS, JUST BECAUSE IT'S IN THAT CORNER, IT DOESN'T HAVE TO TAKE IN THE HOLE PARCEL.
THEORETICALLY YOU, BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE THE PICK THEY'RE GONNA GET ON IT, BUT JUST 'CAUSE YOU CREATED THE ZONE, YOU HAVE TO HAVE A PROJECT IN THE ZONE.
THE PROJECT COULD BE FROM RIGHT HERE, RIGHT THERE.
AND YOU, YOU COULD, YOU COULD ACTUALLY JUST DO THE ZONE, THESE TWO PIECES OF PROPERTY RIGHT THERE IF YOU WANTED TO AND JUST HAVE THAT PROJECT RIGHT THERE.
IT HAS TO BE A PROJECT WITHIN THE ZONE, BUT IT PROBABLY LOOKS BASIC.
IT PROBABLY MORE LEGITIMATE LOOKING.
IT WENT TO THE WELL WELL SITE.
WELL, AND I'LL TELL YOU WHAT ONE LOOKING THROUGH THIS THAT WE JUST GOT, UM, CHRIS IS, COULD SOMEONE MAKE A COPY OF THIS FOR EVERYBODY? SURE.
I GOT A COPY AND I'VE GOT MAYBE A COUPLE OF, A COUPLE MORE COPIES BECAUSE I THINK WE MAY WANT LOOK AT THIS A LITTLE BIT MORE.
DO YOU WANT A MAP OF KIND OF WHAT WE'VE HIGHLIGHTED HERE? THAT'D BE GOOD.
UM, HERE, HERE'S THE DIRECTION FROM, FROM ALLISON BASS, BUT I ROAD THAT NEEDS REPAIR OR REHABILITATION IN RURAL AREA OF YOUR COUNTY WITH LITTLE OR NO DEVELOPMENT ON
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EITHER SIDE, DOMESTIC DEVELOPMENT, THE OTHER OPTIONS.MEET WITH THE LOCAL APPRAISED DISTRICT, WHICH WE'RE DOING AND REQUEST A MAP OF TAX PARCEL ON SIDE OF THE ROAD AND LIST OF CURRENT APPRAISED VALUES FOR EACH PARCEL.
ITEM THREE IS DETERMINED THE RATE OF INCREASE OR DECLINE IN THE APPRAISED VALUES FROM PARCELS IN THE LAST THREE YEARS.
ITEM FOUR IS SELECTED RELATIVELY SMALL ADJACENT PARCELS THAT ARE LIKELY TO BE DEVELOPED IN THE NEXT FEW YEARS THAT ARE UNLIKELY TO BE DEVELOPED IN THE NEXT FEW YEARS.
CREATE A MAP THAT INCLUDES THE ROADWAY PROJECT AND THE SELECTED PARCEL.
AND IT GOES ON, UH, TO SAY YOUR POSSIBLE SEARCH, UH, SEA TUR MAP MIGHT LOOK I LIKE SEARCH BETTER.
I'M SAY SEARCH, IT'S EASIER TO SAY OTHER SOUNDS.
BUT THE ROADWAY IS IN COLOR WITH TAX PARCELS ON THE NORTH AND SOUTH OF THE ROADWAY.
THAT'S KIND OF THE EXAMPLE THEY GIVE.
UH, YOU COULD DECIDE TO MAKE THIS A ZONE.
THE NORTH SIDE PROPERTIES ARE LESS LIKELY TO DEVELOP IN THE FUTURE.
SO ACCORDING TO THIS, YOU COULD JUST DO IT ON ONE SIDE, ONE SIDE OF THE ROAD.
GIVE US OPTIONS ON THIS THING ALL THE WAY AROUND.
WELL NOW, NOW IF YOU WANT TO SIMPLIFY IT, THAT'S, THAT'S PRETTY, PRETTY UH, SIMPLE OR MODERATELY SIMPLE I SUPPOSE.
BUT DOWN THERE ON THAT, IN THAT HAM GUSFIELD, THERE'S ONLY ONE UP ONE PROPERTY ON IT THAT OWNS A WHOLE BLOCK.
YOU GO A MILE DOWN 40 17 AND TURN IT IN THE GATE AND THERE'S NO DEVELOPMENT ON EITHER SIDE.
IT'S CATTLE RANCH ON THE SOUTH SIDE AND IT RUN CATTLE AND THEN THE OIL PATCH DOWN THERE.
SO THERE'S NOT A LOT OF, UH, THERE'S NOTHING DOWN THERE.
NO ONE, LIKE ONE HOUSE, TWO HOUSES.
HOW MANY PROPERTY OWNERS IN CAR? 1, 2, 3, 4.
THE ONLY THING THAT'S AN OLD FIELD, AND THIS IS I KNOW YOU CAN'T GO, YOU KNOW, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT YOU CAN'T BACK UP FOR PREVIOUS DAMAGE.
THIS IS LIKE FOR RECENT DAMAGE AND NEW.
THE WHOLE THING'S ACTIVE DESIGN TO, IF, IF YOU HAVE ALL ACTIVITY IN YOUR, IN YOUR, AND THEY TURN UP YOUR ROAD, YOU CAN CREATE A ZONE TO FIX THAT GROWTH WITH.
THAT'S, THAT'S THE GENERAL CONCEPT.
I MEAN, AND IT'S GONNA BE, IT'S GONNA BE A CONCEPT THAT THE, THAT HIGHWAY COMMISSION IS GOING TO PROMOTE LIKE THE I 20 THING.
THEY'RE GOING WANT, THEY'RE GONNA SEE THE INCREASED TAXABLE VALUE USED TO OFFSET THEIR EXPENSES.
FIXED GROWTH WITH JUST LIKE THIS IS A METHOD WHERE WE CAN OFFSET OUR EXPENSES WITH FIX
BUT YOU KNOW, WE DON'T, WE'RE NOT IN THAT BIG PLAYING FIELD LIKE THERE ARE DOWN THERE IN SOUTH TEXAS WHERE IT RIGHT.
I THINK ANDREWS COUNTY HAD $8 MILLION AT A AIRWAY AND THEY'VE ALREADY GOT A HUGE TAX BASE ANYWAY DOWN THERE BECAUSE OF, WITH NO NEEDS BECAUSE THERE'S NOT ANY POPULATION.
SO YEAH, THEY OUGHT TO HAVE ALL KINDS OF ROADS DOWN THERE IN ANDREWS COUNTY IF YOU GO DOWN THERE NEXT YEAR.
AND THEN ANOTHER EXAMPLE, LET'S SAY HERE IS WHERE YOU COULD LEAVE OUT A PARCEL WHERE YOU HAVE MAYBE AN ABATEMENT OR, OR AS A PENDING A PLAN OR THIS THING GETS A LITTLE SIMPLER AS YOU GO ALONG.
YOU COULD DECIDE TO DESIGNATE A ROADWAY AND ONLY A SINGLE PARCEL OF LAND OR TWO OVER.
I THINK WE'RE LEARNING IT WOULD BE, IT'D BE MUCH EASIER FOR THEM.
KEEP TRACK OF IF YOU'RE PARCEL OF LAND.
WOULD IT NOT, IT'D BE EASIER FOR EVERYBODY TO KEEP TRACK OF THE, IF YOU'RE PARCEL OF LAND IF PUT OUT YEAH, IT WOULD BE, IT'D BE EASIER TO KEEP TRACK OF.
WHY DID THEY, DID WE HAVE, ON ONE THING IT SAYS THAT MEET WITH APPRAISAL DISTRICT AND REQUEST A MAP OF TAX PARCELS ON EITHER SIDE OF THE ROAD THAT BOTH SIDES.
SO YOU COULD GIVE ONE SIDE OF THIS SIDE, IT SAYS EITHER NOT BOTH.
THIS IS THE, THE NEXT, LAST PAGE.
SO YOU, YOU COULD ON A DEAL LIKE IT THERE AT 4 29, YOU JUST
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ON 4 29, IT COULD BE A PIECE OF PROPERTY, MAYBE JUST A PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT'S GOT THE, THE WELD ON IT.WELL THAT, THAT'S WHAT I MAKES SENSE.
THAT WAY WE DON'T, IT COULD BE A LOT EASIER TO KEEP TRACK OF WHAT IT MIGHT AND ALSO DO THE HOMEWORK ON WHAT THE DAYS HAVE BEEN FOR THE LAST THREE YEARS ON ALL PROJECT.
YOU JUST ELIMINATE ALL THOSE OTHER PROPERTIES AND EVERYTHING.
IS THIS A, A MATCHING DEAL? IS OUR YEAH, WE, WE GOT 10% WE HAVE TO PUT INTO, OF COURSE WE'RE DISADVANTAGED OF WHAT'S OUR MATCH.
WELL, DIRECTOR MATCH IS 20 AND BECAUSE WE'RE A DESIGNATED AS A, UH, DISADVANTAGED COUNTY, BUT I UNDERSTAND, I READ SOMETHING YESTERDAY WHERE IT CAN EVEN BE IN KIND, IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO BE MONEY.
THEY'RE GONNA LET YOU, I THINK THEY'RE GONNA LET YOU USE THE EQUIPMENT COST.
YOU CAN'T BUY EQUIPMENT, BUT YOU CAN USE, BUT IF YOU'VE GOT, IF YOU NEED MOTOR ROTOR OUT THERE, YOU CAN CHARGE, YOU KNOW, $150 AN HOUR.
WHICH MAKES, I MEAN, THAT WOULD, I'M NOT SURE THAT'S BEEN ADOPTED YET, BUT THAT'S WHAT I'VE READ.
THAT'S KIND OF YEAH, I DON'T THINK THEY'VE GOT THE, THEY DON'T HAVE THE RULES.
SEE THAT'S KIND OF WHAT THEY'RE THINKING.
PART OF THE PROBLEM IS, IS WE'RE DEALING WITH SOMETHING THAT'S A GOOD DEAL, BUT, UH, WE DON'T, WE'RE TRYING BECAUSE OF THIS KIND OF UNREASONABLE DEADLINE, WE'RE HAVING TO MAKE SOME, THE REASON I TRUST, UH, THIS GROUP IS BECAUSE JIM HELPED WRITE THIS LAW, YOU KNOW, ON UH, THIS PAGE IT SAYS THE STATUTE, UH, THE ITEM THREE, UNDER THE B IT SAYS A PLAN THAT AND NUMBER THREE PROVIDES FOR MATCHING FUNDS AS REQUIRED BY SECTION 2 56.
DO WE KNOW WHAT THAT SECTION 56.05, WHAT IS THAT GONNA BE? MONEY, IS THAT MONEY GONNA HAVE TO BE MATCHED FROM THE INCREASED PROPERTY VALUE OR CAN IT BE JUST MATCHED FROM GENERAL FUNDS THAT'LL HAVE THE RULES SET? I THINK YOU HAVE TO BE PREPARED FOR THE GRAND HIP, BE PREPARED TO MAKE YOUR MATCH.
SO WE CAN SAY WE CAN FROM ANY SOURCE.
SO WE CAN SAY THAT WE'RE PREPARED AND MAKE THAT MATCH OFF THERE.
WE WILL MAKE THE MATCH EVEN, EVEN IF IT COMES OUTTA ROAD AND BRIDGE.
10% OF HALF A MILLION DOLLARS FOR ALL.
IT WAS A REQUIREMENT THAT IT CAME FROM THE INCREASED PROPERTY VALUE OR IF IT COULD COME FROM ANY SORT.
I HAVE NOT ANY SORT, BUT I MEAN, YOU KNOW, THAT DOESN'T, WE HAVE TO PAY IT.
SO PAYING $50,000 TO GET FOUR 50.
YEAH, THAT'S A GOOD DEAL FROM ANY ASPECT.
THAT LAST SENTENCE SAID THE TERM INCLUDES THE LEASE FOR RENTAL EQUIPMENT USED FOR ROAD MAINTENANCE.
SO IF YOU WANT LEASING EQUIP, YOU KNOW, AS PART OF IT, THAT COULD BE THE MATCH.
CAN YOU FIND OUT WHAT THE ABSOLUTELY RELAY THAT? YES SIR.
NARROW IT DOWN AND MAKE A LOT LESS.
SO THE LOCATION OF THIS IS ON WHICH SIDE OF THIS ROAD? IT'S GOT THIS CURVE IN IT 3 56.
IT'S ON SOUTH SIDE ACTUALLY, I GUESS THIS IS NORTH ON THE NEXT, I DUNNO, I'M NOT NORMALLY AT THAT POINT.
I'M TALKING ABOUT ARROWS RIGHT THERE, TOM.
RIGHT? YEAH, JUST THAT ONE PIECE RIGHT THERE.
WHERE IS IT APPROXIMATELY RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OR WHAT? YEAH, IF WE, ONCE WE SELECT THE ZONE, WHEN DO WE HAVE TO SELECT THE PROJECT COST? THE PROJECT? THIS ROOM.
ONE MORE B TWO, I'VE, WELL, THAT REPORT SAID THE 24TH.
THAT'S TO GET IT BACK TO ALLISON.
YEAH, YEAH, TO ALLISON PASSED, WHICH IS, I MEAN THAT'S, BUT I TALKED TO THE LADY YESTERDAY AND SHE SAID, WE UNDERSTAND YOU.
THEY'RE PRETTY OPTIMISTIC THAT THE STATE IS GOING TO, SO WE'VE SEND THAT REPORT TO YOU AND YOU'LL SEND IT TO BASS OR YOU WANT TO SEND IT DIRECTLY TO THEM, OR I THINK SEND IT TO US.
THE INFORMATION ALL ANYWAY, WHEN I CALLED DOWN AND TALKED TO THEM YESTERDAY, THEY WERE SOMEWHAT THAT THE STATE WERE GONNA GRANT AN EXTENSION.
WELL THIS IS WHAT YOU NEED TO SHIP THE BALANCE.
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DID YOU, DID YOU PUT THE DEPOSIT ATION ROAD ON THEM? NO.I SHOULD HAVE, YEAH, YOU GOT HAVE THAT.
SEE THIS, THIS IS A NEW REPORT THAT THE TRANSPORTATION CODE REQUIRED AND YOU HAVE TO PUT THE CAUSE OF DAMAGES ON THERE THAT, WELL, WE HAVEN'T DONE THAT IN THE PAST.
WHAT, WHAT WE DID YESTERDAY, I AND YOU GO AHEAD AND SEND THEM A COPY OF WHAT YOU GUYS SUBMITTED BACK IN, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU DID YOUR REPORT AND RAY HAD AMENDED HIS YEAH.
AND SO, AND YOU, YOU SAY AMENDED ON ALREADY, YOU'VE ALREADY DONE THAT.
WE'LL GO BACK TO
SO, UH, DO Y'ALL HAVE A COPY? WELL, THAT AMENDMENT THOUGH, I'VE GOT AN UPDATED WITH THE, WITH THE CAUSE OF DEGRADATION.
AND I ASKED BEFORE ABOUT THE, WHEN THEY CONDITIONED THE ROAD UP, I JUST, YOU KNOW, TO THE LIST OR I ASKED, I SAID, WE ARB ROADS IS GOOD, FAIR AND POOR.
THEY SAID YOU HAVE TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, RACHEL ROADS, UH, BECAUSE THERE'S NOTHING SPECIFIED WHAT YOU HAVE TO SAY.
I NEVER HEARD BACK THAT THAT WASN'T ACCEPTABLE.
SO I'M ASSUMING IT WAS, AND I GUESS THAT'S GOING TO HAVE TO BE SUBMITTED TO THE GRAND JURY.
YEAH, I'D SAY I'M TELL ALL OF US HAD ROADS IN OUR LAST REPORT THAT WERE NOT COUNTY ROADS.
YOU NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU LOOK AT YOUR THING AND MAKE SURE THAT THERE ARE COUNTY ROADS OTHER THAN THE MAPS THAT WE GET FROM THE COUNTY ROAD.
THE MAP THAT WE DID WAY BACK WHEN KEN NINE ON THE COURT WAY BACK AND OH SEVEN OR WHATEVER DESIGNATED IN THE COUNTY ROADS.
AND IF IT'S NOT ON THAT MAP AND NOT LISTED ON THERE, THE REASON I WENT BACK AND LOOKED AT MINE TO SEE, AND I HAD ONE ROAD THAT I HAD LISTED AS A COUNTY ROAD.
I'M NOT REPORT THAT I TURNED IN LAST JULY.
IT'S NOT A COUNTY ROAD ACCORDING TO THE MAP.
I, THERE WAS A LIST THAT WE MAILED OUT TO EVERY PROPERTY OWNER IN 2000.
WE DIDN'T THE COURT MAILED OUT IN LIKE 2006 WITH THE TAX, UH, WITH YOUR TAX STATEMENTS THAT SAID THAT THESE ARE ROAD THAT BE CONSIDERED COUNTY ROAD AND PUBLIC CLEAR TAX.
IF YOU HAVE A AGREEMENT OR DISAGREEMENT, YOU GOTTA COME TO PUBLIC.
THEY DIDN'T SAY THAT MY ROAD IS NOT COUNTY ROAD AND MY ROAD IS COUNTY ROAD.
WE WENT THROUGH THAT PROCESS AND DETERMINED THE COUNTY ROADS AND THEY'RE ACTUALLY NAMED OR LISTED BY ROAD NUMBER OR ROAD NAME.
WHERE DO WE GET THAT? I'VE NEVER SEEN IT.
ALL I'VE GOT IS, BUT I, BUT THAT WAS, THAT WAS THE ONE BEFORE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
THERE WERE SEVERAL ROADS, LIKE IN KANSAS AREA DOWN THERE.
THERE'S SEVERAL ROADS THAT THEY CHANGED OFF THAT LIST BECAUSE THE PEOPLE DECIDED THAT THEY DIDN'T WANT THAT ROAD OR THEY WANTED THAT ROAD WARRANT EVERYTHING.
AND THEN OUR ATTORNEYS THEN, UH, WHAT IT WAS, UH, A B STAFF AT THAT TIME THAT THEY, THEY WOULD LOOK AT THE LIST OF ROADS AND SAY, UH, AND THE COMPLAINTS AND THEY WOULD ADVISE US, YOU NEED TO SAY THAT, STAND YOUR GROUND, SAY THIS IS WHAT YOU SAY IT IS.
OR YOU NEED TO BACK UP AND GO PUBLIC BECAUSE, UH, IF THEY SUE YOU, YOU'RE GONNA LOSE.
AND SO THE ONES THEY RECOMMENDED THAT WE STOOD OUR GROUND ON, WE SAID IT WAS A COUNTY ROAD OR NOT EITHER ACCEPTING OR NOT ACCEPTING ONE WAY OR ANOTHER.
BUT THEN THEY, THEY, YOU KNOW, SOME OF 'EM, THEY, THEY TELL US, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN FIGHT THIS, BUT THE PUBLIC CAN FIGHT IT TOO.
AND WHEN YOU GO TO COURT YOU'LL PROBABLY LOSE.
AND SO GUESS WHAT? THAT WAS SCRATCHED OFF THE LIST.
SO WE, WE NEVER WENT TO COURT ON ANY OF THEM.
WE TOOK THEIR ADVICE ON, LIKE I SAID, ALL I'VE EVER SEEN IS THE MAPS THAT WERE COLOR CODED, YOU KNOW, UH, THINK GREENS COUNTY AND BROWN, THE CITY.
AND THAT'S WHAT I'VE BEEN GOING BY.
WELL IT SHOULD BE THE SAME THING, BUT I YOU BUT LOOK AT IT AGAIN.
THE LIST THAT WAS TURNED IN LAST JULY.
I, I'M PRETTY SURE THAT, I'M NOT PRETTY SURE.
I'M POSITIVE THAT ALL OF OUR REPORTS WERE ERROR.
I THAT'S A GOOD TIME SINCE YOU'RE AMENDING IT NOW, THAT'D BE A GOOD TIME TO DO THAT.
I ELIMINATED SOME, BUT ACTUALLY WHERE THE C UH, YOU KNOW, SEE THE LITTLE C THAT UH, I HAD LISTED FROM THE PREVIOUS REPORT THAT, UM, DELETED FROM THIS LIST.
SO WE HAVE A CHANCE TO AMEND IT.
IT'D BE A GOOD TIME TO GET IT STRAIGHT.
WELL, I GUESS IF THERE WAS ANY COMFORT IN ALL THIS, JUST KNOW THAT THERE WERE COMMISSIONER COURT, LIKE WE ARE, WELL DO YOU KNOW THAT, UH, TALK TO SEVERAL COMMISSIONS AROUND THE COUNTY.
THEY HAVE NEVER FILED OVER COURT.
AND WE, I SAID WE'VE BEEN DOING EVER SINCE I'VE BEEN ON THE COURT, I SAID IT'S THE LAW.
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I NEVER DID.I NEVER DID UNDERSTAND WHY HAS TO GO THROUGH THE RANGER THAT THAT'S THE PART I NEVER HAVE.
WELL, YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO USE THAT AS UH, AS A GUIDELINE TO HOW MUCH MONEY YOU WANT TO NEED TO SET THE TAX RATE, THE ROAD BRIDGE.
WELL WHAT DOES, WHAT DOES THE GRAND JURY HAVE GRAND JURY DOES, I GUESS TO MAKE SURE IT'S TELLING THE TRUTH.
WELL, MIGHT NOT WANNA GO VISIT THERE THEN.
I'M SURE WE'VE DONE THE BEST WE COULD WITH WHAT WE HAVE.
I DUNNO, THE MORE I LOOK AT THIS, I CAN SEE WHY COUNTIES AREN'T APPLYING FOR IT.
BUT, UH, BUT WE, WE, WE CERTAINLY ARE NEED TO PROVIDE THROUGH IT.
THE OTHER THING WE'RE GONNA NEED DO, I DON'T THINK WE PROBABLY NEED TO TAKE ANY ACTION TODAY MORE I LOOKED AT THIS OTHER THAN GIVING CHRIS TIME TO COME UP WITH THIS, UH, THING.
IS THAT NOT GONNA PUT US PAST THEIR DEADLINE? WELL, ARE WE GONNA HAVE TO HAVE ANOTHER POSTED, UH, SOMETHING IN THE NEWSPAPER OR THE PUBLIC HEARING? PUBLIC HEARING.
IT SAYS YOU HAVE THE PUBLIC HEARING 30 DAYS, BUT IT DOESN'T SAY, UH, YOU KNOW, WE'VE HAD THE, WE'VE HAD THE PUBLIC HEARING.
YOU CAN'T HAVE IT FOUR 30 DAYS, BUT I THINK YOU CAN DO ANOTHER ONE.
THE, YOU KNOW, IT COULD BE 40 DAYS.
SO WE DON'T HAVE THAT TO DO, BUT UH, AND WE CAN HAVE SPECIAL MEETINGS.
YOU KNOW, THIS THING'S DUE FEBRUARY THE SEVENTH OR NINTH I THINK.
SO I'VE BEEN AROUND BEFORE AS YOU ONLY WELL KNOW.
THE OTHER, THE OTHER THING WE'RE GONNA NEED TO DO IS COME UP WITH A COMMITTEE OF FIVE AND YOU KNOW, THEY RECOMMEND THAT, UH, THREE OF THOSE PEOPLE BE FROM INDUSTRY AND INDUSTRY'S PRETTY BROAD TERM AND THEN TWO OR THREE FROM THE PUBLIC.
I THINK IT'S FIVE MEMBER BOARD.
AND SO WE ARE OFFICIALLY GOING TO HAVE TO TAKE ACTION ON THAT AS WELL.
I HAVEN'T REALLY TALKED WITH ANYBODY, YOU KNOW, DOES THAT NEED TO BE ONE FROM EACH PRECINCT? PLUS THERE'S NO REQUIREMENT THAT IT BE, YOU KNOW, I JUST THOUGHT, YOU KNOW, TO GIVE EVERYBODY A CHANCE TO, AND I DON'T REALLY KNOW WHAT ALL THEY'RE, I THINK IF ONE OF US, EACH ONE OF US, UH, NAME ONE PERSON, THEY'D GET US TO A FIVE.
BUT WE NEED TO, IF, IF TWO OR THREE, WELL IS HE INVOLVED IN THE OIL GAS INDUSTRY? HE HAS OIL AND GAS PROPERTY, DOESN'T HE? THAT'S WHAT I'VE UNDERSTOOD, THAT IF YOU OWN PROPERTY WITH OIL AND GAS ON, THEN YOU'RE KNOWLEDGEABLE OF THE OIL AND GAS INDUSTRY.
I WAS GONNA PUT TR SMITH ON IT.
YEAH, BECAUSE SHE'S GOT, SHE HAS THE ALL WELL, AND SHE DOES, SHE DOES KNOW THE OIL INDUSTRY.
YOU KNOW, THE FOLKS DOWN AT YOUR AREA THAT'S, THEY DON'T HAVE TO ALL BE OIL.
A LOT OF PLACES ARE HAVING TROUBLE FINDING FIVE PEOPLE WITH KNOWLEDGE OF THE OIL AND GAS INJURIES.
AND THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE A RESIDENT OF THE COUNTY.
I UNDERSTAND THESE, THESE PEOPLE.
AND YOU KNOW, CAROL SHIELDS IS A, UH, OIL GEOLOGIST IN, IN YOUR PRECINCT.
I WOULD THINK IF THAT'S WHAT THEY DEAL WITH.
AND THEY'RE KIND OF, LIKE I SAY, THEY MAKE A LOT OF MONEY BEING ON THIS BOARD.
SO SHE IS KIND OF COMMUNITY ORIENTED.
SO I THINK SHE WHAT PROBABLY LEFT THAT.
AND THEN MAYBE I NEED TO TALK TO CAROL FIRST TO MAKE SURE I'M SURE GOOD LUCK ON TELLING THEM WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO.
WELL, WE'RE NOT SURE IF YOU'RE APPOINTED.
LET ME GIVE YOU THE BLUE COPY.
YOU HAVE ANYBODY WE'LL NEED TO HAVE
I CAN'T LET WITH ME BECAUSE I, IT IS GONNA BE HARD TO FIND FIVE PEOPLE AND TO FIT THAT CRITERIA.
AND IF YOU CAN'T FIND FIVE PEOPLE, YOU CAN DO ANYBODY.
AND THEY'RE NOT GOING TO DO A WHOLE LOT ANYWAY.
YEAH, BECAUSE THIS, THIS MAY GO AWAY IN SIX MONTHS.
I, I'VE GOT, I'VE GOT A GUY I'D HAVE TO TALK TO AND SEE IF HE'D BE WILLING TO SERVE ON, MAYBE WE CAN LET, UH, DO THAT MONDAY.
YEAH, WE'LL, WE'LL NEED TO, WE'LL TRY TO GET THAT ON THE AGENDA.
WE DON'T HAVE TO HAVE THE NAMES ON THE AGENDA.
WE NEED TO HAVE THAT ON THE AGENDA FOR, AND I'LL THINK OF SOMEBODY THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, AND I'LL HAVE HIM CALL YOU.
YEAH, DO I'LL GIVE HIM TO CHRIS.
SO WE'LL, WE'LL, WE'LL PUT THAT ON THE AGENDA TO RUN OUT FROM MONDAY.
AT LEAST WE CAN GET THAT DONE.
WE MAY NEED TO WORK WITH YOU WITH THE WORDING ON WHAT WE'VE GOT.
WE HAVEN'T SENT OUT THE AGENDA FROM MONDAY YET.
I DIDN'T WANT TO UNTIL WE GOT, YOU KNOW, A LITTLE BIT FURTHER ALONG ON, ON THIS.
AND JUDGE, JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, WHEN, WHEN WAS THAT PUBLIC HEARING? NOW YOU SAID DECEMBER? I WAS DECEMBER.
WHILE I WAS YOU REMEMBER ANGIE OR LAURA? YOU
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REMEMBER WE RAN THE AD AND THE PAPER.AND, UH, WE WERE PREPARED TO MEET THE DEADLINE FEBRUARY 7TH BY, BY JUST BY THE HERNEY CHIN CHIN, WHICH EVERY KIND WAS DONE THAT WAY 'CAUSE THAT 30 DAY REQUIREMENT, SO.
WE HAD, WE HAD A LITTLE LEEWAY IN THERE, BUT NOT MUCH A FEW DAYS.
SO I WANT TO THINK IT WAS ON THE LAST MEETING, PROBABLY 27TH OF DECEMBER, I BELIEVE BECAUSE I, I THINK THE REQUIREMENT IS THAT THE, THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT WOULD HAVE TO DESIGNATE THE CERTS WITHIN, WELL, NO LATER THAN 30 DAYS AFTER THAT PUBLIC HEARING.
NO LATER THAN, OR YOU CAN USE YEAH, I MEAN THAT'S, THAT'S THE WORDING I'VE GOT RIGHT HERE.
I HAVEN'T ACTUALLY LOOKED AT THE ACTUAL STATUTE, BUT THIS IS WHAT I HAVE ALRIGHT.
PRINTED OUT IN FRONT ME THE 23RD, THE LATER 30 DAYS PRIOR TO THE DATE.
WELL, WE HAD IT ON DECEMBER 23RD.
SO TODAY IS IT, I MEAN, I SEE IT RIGHT ON THE HEAD.
IS THE POSTING THAT WE HAVE HERE ON THE AGENDA YOU THINK IS SUFFICIENT? I MEAN, I DON'T, I'D SAY WOULD BE OKAY.
I DON'T SEE ANY REASON WHY IT WOULDN'T BE CLEAR.
SO WHAT DO WE, WE DO NEED TO TAKE ACTION.
WE DO NEED TO DESIGNATE THAT PIECE, PIECE PIECE OF PROPERTY.
YOU HAVE TO, IT SAYS AFTER THE PUBLIC HEARING, YOU HAVE TO ALLOW 30 DAYS TO TRANSPIRE BEFORE YOU CAN SCHEDULE THE HEARING TO ADOPT THE ORDER.
IS THAT THE LAW? THAT'S WHAT AND BASS TOLD US.
I WHY WE COULDN'T DO THAT TODAY.
WOULDN'T THAT DO IT? I WOULD THINK SO.
NO LATER THAN 30 OR NO, SOONER THAN 31 DAY.
TO BE COMPLETELY HONEST, I, I HAVEN'T, I HAVEN'T LOOKED AT THE ACTUAL WALL.
SO I MEAN, THIS IS JUST SOMETHING I'VE, I'VE PRINTED OUT.
BUT, BUT I DON'T KNOW OF ANY REASON WHY WE COULDN'T GO AHEAD AND DO THAT TODAY.
THE WORDING THAT WE HAVE, I DON'T, I DON'T WANNA HAVE TO GO BACK.
AND THAT NOTICE AGAIN, ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF, CERTAIN IS THAT IT'S, IT'S A, THIS ENERGY TRANSPORTATION REINVESTMENT ZONE, A COUNTY ENERGY, THIS THING, HE'S GOT IT'S COUNTY ENERGY.
TRZ IS WHAT'S, THAT'S COUNTY, COUNTY ENERGY, TRD, CT C COUNTY ENERGY TRANSPORTATION, REINVESTMENT THINGS.
AND THIS WASN'T DESIGNED FOR KA COUNTY, THIS WAS DESIGNED FOR
SO WE CAN'T GO WRONG IF WE DESIGNATE THE ZONING.
WE, WE'VE MET THAT REQUIREMENT.
AND THEN, UH, I KNOW ONE COMMISSIONER'S GONNA SUBMIT 20 PROJECTS.
I'M NOT, NOT YOU
BECAUSE HE KNOW HIS QUESTION WAS HOW DO YOU GET MORE THAN 20 PROJECTS ON THE, ON THE, ON, ON THE, THE STUFF THE TEXT NOT SENDS OUT TO YOU NEED MORE PAGES, NEED MORE PAGES ON THERE.
HIS IT DEPARTMENT FINALLY GOT IT SQUARED AWAY FROM HER AND IT IT IS IN THE OIL AND GAS PRODUCING AREA.
AND ONE OF THE BIG PROBLEMS THEY'VE GOT DOWN THERE IS WHEN THEY INCREASE, WHEN, WHEN YOU HAVE A LOT, IT'S A, IT'S A DOUBLE-EDGED SWORD.
LIKE YOU TALKED ABOUT A WHILE AGO.
IF YOU'RE AN OIL AND GAS COUNTRY AND YOUR TAXABLE VALUE GOES UP BECAUSE OF OIL AND GAS THING TO UH, $20 MILLION,
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$20 MILLION, WHATEVER, GUESS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN ALL QUITS YOUR TAXABLE VALUE STILL AT 20 BILLION AND YOU CANNOT RAISE YOUR TAXES OVER 8%, BUT THE VALUE'S NOT THERE AND YOU'RE JUST, YOU'RE LEFT OUT THERE IN NO MAN'S LAND AS FAR AS GETTING ANY MONEY FROM YOUR, FROM YOUR CITIZENS.BUT YOU STILL GOT THE START FROM THE PEOPLE THAT TORE UP BEFORE THE OIL AND GAS QUIT.
BECAUSE WHAT'S, IT STARTS ALWAYS STOPS.
AND WHEN IT STOPS, GUESS WHAT? WHEN
WELL, THE QUESTION I'M KIND OF HUNG UP ON RIGHT NOW IS IF WE HAVE TO DO IT TODAY OR IF IT COULD BE DONE, UH, MAYBE MONDAY, UH, BECAUSE THEY'VE SENT A SAMPLE ORDINANCE HERE OR AN ORDER.
JAMES, DO YOU, WOULD THE, IS ALISON'S TELEPHONE NUMBER ON THAT CONTRACT? PROBABLY CALL.
WELL, I, LET'S, UH, LET'S, IT'S LET'S TAKE ABOUT A 10 MINUTE BREAK.
WE'LL MAYBE TRY TO GET THEM ON THE PHONE AND LET ABSOLUTELY.
SO WE'LL JUST RECESS RIGHT QUICK AND TAKE A LITTLE STAND UP.
WE'VE BEEN HERE FOR AN HOUR AND A OKAY.
UH, JAMES, IF YOU WOULD, THIS AS A MATTER OF RECORD.
UH, SO TELL US WHAT YOUR BELIEF IS NOW AFTER TALKING, UM, AFTER DISCUSSING IT WITH, UH, UH, MR. BOB BASS, UM, HIS RECOMMENDATION IN MY RECOMMENDATION TO THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT IS THAT WE AT LEAST WAIT 31 DAYS.
UM, THAT SEEMS TO BE THE CONSENSUS OF WHAT THE, THE LAW IS SAYING THAT WE HAVE TO WAIT AT LEAST 30 DAYS BEFORE WE ACT ON THIS.
UM, THE OTHER RECOMMENDATION IS THAT WE, WE GET A NAME OR A LIST OF THE, WHO'S GONNA BE ON THE ADVISORY BOARD.
UM, SO WE CAN DESIGNATE THE ZONE AND THE ADVISORY BOARD ON THE SAME DAY.
AND THEN WE JUST NEED TO SEND OUT ALL THE PROPER NOTICES FOR A, UH, PUBLIC HEARING ON THIS.
SO BY MONDAY EVERYBODY WILL NEED TO HAVE A NAME.
SO IF YOU'LL DO THAT, AND I THINK WE'VE GOT THE OIL AND GAS PEOPLE SOUNDS LIKE PRETTY WELL AROUND, YOU KNOW, THREE OR WHATEVER.
AND IF IT JUST HAS TO BE PROPERTY OWNERS, SO, YOU KNOW, THAT'S, DON'T YOU TELL CAROL THAT I RECOMMEND HER.
SHE'S VERY COMMUNITY ORIENTED.
ALRIGHT, WELL WE'RE STILL ON ITEM THREE.
DO WE, UH, ANY ANYTHING ELSE WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT BEFORE THE MEETINGS ON? THERE'S A CHECKLIST THAT THEY SENT TO US.
YEAH, AND I GUESS WE WILL, UH, CHRIS, YOU, I GUESS I UNDERSTAND WHAT WE NEED FROM YOU.
IF YOU JUST TELL US, OUTLINE THE, THE DIRECTION YOU WANT TO GO, WE CAN, UH, PREPARE ALL THAT AND HAVE YOU MAPS AND READY TO GO.
WE'LL NEED THAT MONDAY FOR SURE.
SO, UH, ARE WE COMFORTABLE WITH JUST DESIGNATING THIS ONE PIECE OF PROPERTY AS THEY INDICATED HERE, WHERE THE WELL THAT'S AN OPTION THAT LOOKS ACCEPTABLE TO THEM.
YOU JAMES, I MEAN, OR DO YOU THINK WOULD BE SAFER GOING AHEAD AND DESIGNATING THE PROPERTIES, UH, TO THAT AS WELL? I, I, I THINK, I THINK IF THEY, IF THEY'RE SAYING THAT YOU CAN DO THE, THE ONE PARCEL, I MEAN IT SURE.
AND SO YOU'RE PRETTY CLEAR ABOUT DO WE, YOU JUST WANT THE MOODY PROPERTIES ON ONLY THE ONE THAT YOU WANT? UH, WELL, NO, THE 180 7 2 40, YES.
IT SHOULD BE AN A A PARDON? YEAH.
IS THAT, YEAH, THAT, THAT'S NOT ANY PROBLEM FOR TO OKAY.
CAN YOU HAVE A, I MAY SEE IF HE WANTS TO BILL, WE HAVE TO HAVE PROPERTY ID NUMBER OF THAT THAT BROUGHT THE ID LEGAL DESCRIPTION, UH,
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MARKET AND ASSESS VALUE.UM, LOOKS LIKE THERE'S A HOUSE ON THERE, SO WE PROBABLY NEED TO PUT IMPROVEMENT AND LAND VALUE.
AND THERE'S A DEAL HERE, ADVISORY BOARD THAT WHEN YOU TALK TO THE, THE ON THE HANDOUT, YOU KNOW ABOUT WHAT DID THEY DO? UH, KINDA INTERESTING SAID, WHAT DOES THE BOARD ACTUALLY DO? WELL HEY, GIG ARE NOT CLEAR THE STATEMENT.
WELL, BUT SUPPOSEDLY
BUT SUPPOSEDLY THEY WOULD GIVE RECOMMENDATIONS ON THE PROJECT PRIORITY OF THE PROJECTS LONG TERM.
THEY WOULD PROVIDE INFORMATION ON TRANSIT AND TO COURT ON.
THEY DON'T RECEIVE ANYTHING IN SALARY AND THERE TO HAVE NO REIMBURSEMENT FOR EXPENSES.
WAS THAT SOMETHING THAT, THAT YOU SENT US FROM THE, I THINK SENT IT OUT THERE.
WE MAKE SURE I GET THAT TO GET TO THE YEAH.
I THINK ALLISON SEND ALL OF THIS INFORMATION TO ALL OF YOU AT THE SAME TIME THEY SENT TO US.
THEY HAVE YOUR EMAILS AND WHAT I GENERALLY DO, WHAT WE TRY TO DO IS ALSO SEND IT TO, YOU MAY HAVE IT ON AN EMAIL.
THEN YOU MIGHT WANNA LOOK AT THIS.
WHAT ABOUT THE ROAD REPORTS? SEE, I GET THAT.
YOU HAVE IT? UH, I THINK IT'S ON MY OTHER ONE OFFICE.
I JUST DIDN'T SO DO WE NEED TO UM, WE NEED TO TURN IN A ROAD REPORTS TO YOU TODAY, RIGHT? WELL I THINK YOU CAN JUST ON MONDAY.
MONDAY, BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO BE, UH, JAMES, ALLISON BANKS WANTED, WANTED THEM BY YEAH.
SO THEY COULD, THEY COULD LOOK AT 'EM AND THEN ADVISE US AS TO, I'M ASSUMING FOR CORRECTIONS OR, YEAH.
AND WHAT WE DID NOW AGAIN, IS WE JUST SENT 'EM WHAT WE ADOPTED BACK LAST YEAR.
OUR LAST YEAR VOTER REPORTS AND JUST TO SEE IF THEY'D BE ACCEPTABLE.
AND RAY BEING THE SCHOLAR THAT HE, IS HE THE LOW PERSON? YEAH.
HE, HE WENT AHEAD AND JUST SEND AN AMENDED TO HIM AND YOU MIGHT AND YOU HAVEN'T HEARD BACK FROM HIM, RIGHT? NO, WE HAVEN'T GOT, HAVE GOT THE AMENDED ONE YET.
YEAH, WE SENT OH, YOU SENT THE MINUTE INTERIM.
DID I SEND YES, I SENT YOUR AMEND BECAUSE THAT'S THE ONLY ONE THAT WASN'T AMENDED.
WE ALSO SENT THE ONE YOU DID BACK IN WHENEVER IT WAS.
AND I WOULD SUGGEST THAT WHEN YOU DO THE MINUTED ONE, MAKE SURE THAT, UH, THAT YOUR DOLLAR AMOUNTS ON THE MINUTED ONE IS SAME AS YOUR DOLLAR AMOUNT THAT WAS DONE BACK IN THE SUMMER WITH THE EXCEPTION OF MAYBE ROADS WERE DAMAGED BETWEEN JUNE AND NOW.
O OTHERWISE YOU YOU LIED BACK IN JUNE.
YEAH, WE WILL SEND, UH, A COPY OF WHAT GRADE TURNED IN.
I JUST PUT THE ROADS THAT WERE DAMAGED AND INCREASED, UH, IN, IN RED.
I, I DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT DID YOU PUT ON WHY THEY WERE DAMAGED? YEAH, YOU SAW MY REPORT.
AND 1, 2, 3 AND FOUR, WHICH THEY'LL, THEY'LL TELL US, YOU KNOW, ALLISON BASS WILL TELL US THAT'S ACCEPTABLE OR NOT ACCEPTABLE I'M SURE.
WELL THAT PRETTY HAVE SOME, THAT LEAST SOMETHING IF THEY HAD THE UH, OTHER THING WE NEED TO, I BELIEVE I READ OR WAS TOLD WE NEED TO ASK FOR MORE THAN THE 235,000.
WE NEED TO ASK MAYBE FOR TRIPLE DEBT.
BECAUSE IF WE DON'T, UH, AND, AND THEY DO, SOME OF THESE OTHER COUNTIES DON'T, THAT MONEY WE WOULDN'T BE CONSIDERED UNLESS WE HAVE UH, OUR REQUEST IN.
SO WE PROBABLY NEED TO COME UP WITH A, I DON'T KNOW, $150,000 AT LEAST OR PRECINCT OR MORE ON WHAT I'D SAY LET'S TURN IN, LET'S TURN LIST PROJECTS A MILLION BUCKS.
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AND THEN, YOU KNOW, IF THE MONEY COMES THROUGH, WE'RE PROBABLY WON'T GET THESE.BUT, BUT AT LEAST WE'LL COVER OURSELF IN CASE THIS EXTRA MONEY COMES.
I'VE GOT 196,000 ON THE THREE ROWS AROUND THE PIPELINE.
SO, AND THAT MAY INCREASE, YOU KNOW, AS TIME GOES ON, I DUNNO IF THEY'LL EVEN CONSIDER DAMAGE AT A GIVEN POINT.
AND I WOULD REMEMBER THE, THE GRAVEL, THE, YOU KNOW, THE GRAVEL OPERATIONS TOO.
THE AGGREGATE, EVERY ROAD IN THE COUNTY IS AVAIL IS YOU COULD USE IT ON ANY ROAD IN THE COUNTY.
IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE ON ALL ROADS.
PIPELINE ROAD, A GRAVEL PIT ROAD COULD BE ON ANY ROAD.
THIS COUNTY ROAD BECAUSE THEORY IS THAT EVERY SOMEWHERE IN THE COUNTY HAS BEEN A HEAVY TRUCK.
YOU KNOW, IT'S BASICALLY DESIGNED FOR COUNTIES DO HAVE A LOT I THINK IT IS, BUT I THINK IT'S THE TEST TO SEE WITH THE COUNTY THAT WE CAN TAKE THIS MONEY AND USE IT APPROPRIATELY WITH THE IDEA THAT THEY'LL UH, I JUST WAS SHOCKED WE GOT ANYTHING.
I MEAN REALLY HEARD SAID THE OVERWEIGHT PERMITS FROM MADE DIFFERENT GRAVE TRUCKS.
IT MADE A DIFFERENT, THIS IS GONNA BE A FUNDING MECHANISM THAT THEY'RE GOING TO PROBABLY RAM RIDE DAMAGED ROAD IN THE FUTURE.
MY UNDERSTANDING IS THE OIL AND GAS COMPANY, YOU KNOW, THERE, I MEAN THE COUNTIES THAT HAVE A LOT OF OIL AND GAS ACTIVITY, THEY'RE UPSET THAT THE REST OF THE COUNTY'S GOT MONEY.
UH, BE AND PRIMARILY BECAUSE OF THE WEIGHT PERMITS.
SO THEY, THEY FEEL LIKE THEY SHOULD HAVE GOT MORE MONEY.
YOU KNOW, SINCE THEY WERE THE ONES THAT, BUT YOU KNOW YEAH.
20% OF IT WAS FROM YEAH ROCK AND ROCK AND GRAVEL ALSO, YOU KNOW, CAN DAMAGE ROAD AS WELL.
OH YEAH, RIGHT ACROSS YOUR COUNTY.
EVEN THOUGH IT GOES TO WEST TEXAS, IT CAME ACROSS TON COUNTY.
FROM LONE STAR PIPE OR YOU KNOW, SOMEWHERE TYLER OR WHATEVER.
I PRETTY WORE OUT JUST TALKING ABOUT IT.
WE AIN'T GOTTA START THIS MORNING.
ALRIGHT CHRIS, I THINK YOU GUYS ARE GOOD TO GO THEN.
AND JAMES, YOU'RE GOING TO HELP US ON THE WORDING FOR MONDAY? YES SIR.
AND MAIN THING WE WILL NEED TO DO, IF YOU GET YOUR PERSON TO US BEFORE MONDAY, UH, THAT'D BE GOOD.
BUT, UH, BUT CERTAINLY HAVE IT AT THE MEETING, UH, FOR THE NAME OF THE INDIVIDUAL CONTACT, THE CONTACT FOR THE FIVE FIVE BOARD.
WHEN DO WE HAVE TO HAVE A PROJECT? QUIT ASKING ALL THESE, IT SAYS DEADLINE FOR APPLICATION TWO SEVEN THROUGH TWO 14 WAS THE PROJECT HAD TO DO ON THE APPLICATION.
YEAH, BUT I THOUGHT AT SOME POINT WE HAVE TO DESIGNATE A PROJECT WITHIN THE ZONE.
THEN WE, I THINK THEN KIND OF WHAT I UNDERSTOOD A LITTLE BIT ABOUT IT WAS THAT YOU DID THAT PROJECT WITHIN THE ZONE, THEN YOU DESIGNATE OTHER PROJECTS.
SO WE HAVE TO DESIGNATE THAT PROJECT IN THE ZONE WHEN WE CREATE THE ZONE OR IS IT'LL FIND, I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT JUST GOES ON THE, THE APPLICATION IS MY LATER UNDERSTANDING.
SO YOU NEED TO READ BY BETWEEN FEBRUARY 7TH, FOURTH PLAIN WITH PROJECT.
WELL IF THIS IS OUR ZONE, IT HAS TO BE THAT PROJECT RIGHT THERE.
BUT YOU'LL HAVE TO HAVE OTHER PROJECTS TOO.
I TELL YOU'VE GOT SOME ALREADY KIND OF DO.
BUT THERE'S, THERE'S GONNA BE SOME KIND OF SPREADSHEET THAT'S GOING COME OUT.
I'M GONNA ASSURE YOU THAT FOR DOCUMENTATION PURPOSES, JUST 'CAUSE THEY'RE GONNA GIVE YOU THE MONEY, THEY'RE GOING MAKE SURE THAT YOU SPEND IT ON X NUMBER OF DOLLARS ON, YOU KNOW, ON THE ROADS YOU GOT SAME STABILIZATION, X NUMBER OF DOLLARS ON ASPHALT, X NUMBER DOLLARS BRIDGE REPLACEMENT OR WHATEVER.
AND THEN YOU HAVE TO DOCUMENT YOU SPENT THAT MONEY ON WHAT YOU SAID YOU GONNA SPEND IT, RIGHT? YEAH.
BECAUSE THAT WE, WE APPLY, WE'RE ABLE TO APPLY FOR REIMBURSEMENT EVERY TWO WEEKS.
OR THAT'S WHAT THEIR
BUT ANYWAY, I MEAN IT'S IT'S LIKE THE SPEED OF LIGHT FOR TDO.
I I MEAN I WE WONDER ABOUT THAT.
BELIEVE THEY'RE GONNA GET IT YEAH.
BUT I'M GONNA TELL YOU THAT THERE PROBABLY BEEN AUDIT AFTER THE FACT AND IF YOU DIDN'T COMPLY WITH WHAT YOU SAID YOU'RE GONNA BE DOING, YOU'LL HAVE TO PAY THE MONEY BACK.
THEY'RE, THEY'RE, AND AGAIN, THIS IS NEW GROUND FOR THEM AS WELL AS THE COUNTY.
SUE EVERYBODY WHAT I'VE GOT DOCUMENTED THAT WON'T BE A PROBLEM FOR THEM.
WELL I, I WOULD IMAGINE JUST EVERYBODY YOU KNOW, BUT WE'LL NEED TO, IF YOU PUT IT DOWN THAT YOU IMPROVE IT AND YOU COME BACK AND NOTHING WAS DONE WELL, I MEAN PROBABLY WOULDN'T BE GOOD, YOU KNOW, BUT I DON'T, IN OUR COUNTY, I DON'T REALLY
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SEE THAT BEING A PLENTY PLACES TO IMPROVE.WE JUST NEED TO MAKE SURE IT'S THE DESIGNATED AREAS.
ALRIGHT, WELL I'M ABOUT BRAIN DEAD THERE TALKING ABOUT THIS, BUT IT'S SOMETHING WE'LL MOVE FORWARD ON.
ANYBODY ON THE AGENDA? HMM? ANYTHING ELSE ON THE AGENDA? NOPE.
THAT'S THE ONLY THING I HAD OTHER THAN AJOUR A SPECIAL MEETING.
I DON'T SEE IF ANYBODY ELSE HAD ANY COMMENTS THEY WANTED TO MAKE ABOUT SEARCH.
JAMES, YOU YOU, YOU QUICK TO LEARN
UH, IT'S NOT ON THE AGENDA THAT WAY, BUT WOULD IT BE A STRETCH, UH, TO ASK CHRIS, SINCE WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THE APPRAISAL DISTRICT AND DOLLAR AMOUNTS AND PIECES OF PROPERTY, UH, WOULD IT BE APPROPRIATE TO ASK HIM TO UH, KIND OF GIVE US A LITTLE TALK ON THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THE CENTRAL APPRAISAL DISTRICT AND THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT ON WHAT WE CAN DO AND CAN'T DO AND THE LINES WE'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO CROSS AND THINGS SUCH AS THAT? SO WE'LL HAVE IT FOR FUTURE REFERENCE.
SHOULD WE DO THAT TODAY? YEAH, I, I I DON'T SEE WHY NOT.
WOULD THAT BE, I MEAN, ARE YOU READY TO DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT? CHRIS, COULD YOU TELL US ALL AT THE SAME TIME ON WHAT YOUR LEGAL RESPONSIBILITIES ARE AND WHAT, WHERE YOU WOULD GET IN TROUBLE? WHERE WE'D GET IN TROUBLE AND ARE YOU PREPARED FOR IT? I'M NOT PREPARED FOR IT, BUT I MEAN, I, I DON'T KNOW.
LAW, YOU KNOW, THE REQUIREMENTS THAT WE HAVE IS, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, YOU, YOU'RE, YOU'RE CERTAINLY AN ENTITY THAT'S, UH, PARTICIPATING IN, IN, IN, IN OUR, UH, UH, BUDGET AND, AND AND WHAT WE HAVE.
SO WE'RE, WE'RE HERE TO, TO, UH, HELP Y'ALL IN ANY MEANS THAT WE CAN.
SO, UH, I LOOK AT IT AS THAT WE'RE PROVIDING YOU THE INFORMATION THAT YOU'RE REQUESTING.
SEE A LOT OF PEOPLE, UH, ASSUME THAT WE CONTROL THE CENTRAL APPRAISAL DISTRICT BECAUSE WE TELL YOU THAT THEY ASSUME THAT WE TELL YOU THAT WE HAVE TO HAVE THIS, BUT TAX VALUE.
AND SO YOU RAISE UP THE TAX VALUE TO MEET WHAT THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT TELL YOU.
AND THAT'S, THAT IS COMPLETELY AGAINST STATUTE, IS IT NOT? THAT IS CORRECT.
CLARIFY WHAT THE RELATIONSHIP NEED TO BE BETWEEN, UH, YOU AND THE COURT.
THAT, THAT, UH, THE, THE APPRAISAL DISTRICT AND SETTING THE MARKET VALUE HAS NO, UH, UH, RESPONSE OR INPUT FROM THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT.
UH, WE, WE WE'RE, WE'RE LOOKING AT THAT AS, UH, THE INFORMATION THAT WE GATHER ON EACH AND EVERY YEAR BASED ON SALES AND, AND DATA THAT WE ACCUMULATE.
AND IN, IN THAT REGARD THOUGH, IF THE COMMISSIONERS ALL HAVE AREAS OF THE COUNTY THAT THEY MAY SEE DEVELOPMENT TAKING PLACE THAT YOU MIGHT NOT OTHERWISE BE AWARE OF, IS IT APPROPRIATE FOR THEM TO AT LEAST THAT YOU'LL BE AWARE OF THAT? ABSOLUTELY.
UM, OUR REQUIREMENTS ARE, WE, UH, WE HAVE TO REAPPRAISE EVERY THREE YEARS RIGHT? BY, BY REGIONS AND, UH, SO THERE'S AREAS THAT WE MAY NOT, UH, BE IN, IN CERTAIN CERTAIN YEARS.
SO THAT DOESN'T ELIMINATE US FROM BEING AWARE OF THAT AND TAKING LOOKS AT IT, UH, AND UH, SEE IF WE NEED TO MAKE SOME ADJUSTMENTS ACCORDINGLY.
SO IF WE HAVE A DEVELOPMENT GOING ON SOMEPLACE THAT ONLY Y'ALL MAY KNOW ABOUT, YOU KNOW, IT'S THE PHONE CALL ALL TAKES OR AN EMAIL, JUST THAT.
AND THEN I THINK WE'RE GOING TO GET TOGETHER SOMETIME AND TALK ABOUT THE ROLLBACK, I THINK HOW THAT WORKS.
YOU AND YOU AND TANYA I THINK ARE GONNA DO THAT AT SOME POINT.
I THINK WE, WE'VE GOT THAT PREPARED, SO JUST LET US KNOW WHEN, WHEN WE WANT TO DO THAT.
OTHER, ANYTHING ELSE BEFORE WE ADJOURN? NO.
ALRIGHT, WELL THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND I'LL HAND A MOTION TO ADJOURN SO MAY MR. MANNING MAKES THAT MOTION.
THANK AGAIN, MR. CHRIS FOR YOUR YES SIR.