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AND OF COURSE, THE STANDARD SPEECH IS ANYBODY WANTS TO LIKE, TO MAKE A, THE COMMENTS TO THE COURT OF THE PUBLIC COMMENT FOR YOU.
THERE'S SOME PAPERWORK ON SIDE OF THERE.
YOU FILL THAT AND WE'LL BE GLAD TO HEAR YOUR COMMENTS.
AND START OFF WITH, I'D LIKE TO ASK KEN TO LISTEN AN INVITATION, PLEASE.
FATHER, WE COME HERE TODAY, ALWAYS THANK YOU FOR OUR, WE JUST THANK YOU SO MUCH THAT YOU HONOR US BY BEING IN A FREE NATION.
WE ASK YOU TODAY TO BLESS THIS COURT AS WE DO OUR COUNTY'S.
WE ALSO ASK YOU TO BE WITH OUR SOLDIERS THAT ARE IN HARM'S WAY, THAT YOU KEEP THEM SAFE, BRING 'EM BACK HOME IN THEIR TIME.
WE ASK YOU TO BLESS THE EMPLOYEES OF THIS GREAT COUNTY YOUR SON'S NAME, AMEN.
PGI FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AGAINST REPUBLIC FOR WHICH STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD AND INDIVISIBLE WITHIN LIBERTY, US FOR ALL.
HONOR THE FLAG, OUR HIGH TEXAS, ONE STATE UNDER GOD, ONE INDIVISIBLE, NO REMARKS THAT POINT.
I'D LIKE TO REMIND EVERYBODY WHEN SOMEBODY DOES, UH, WANT, GIVE SOME, UH, REMARKS TO US, AND YOU KNOW, WE CANNOT ANSWER BACK TO, IT'S NOT ON THE AGENDA.
HOWEVER, WHAT THEY NEED TO KNOW IS THAT IF THEY WANT TO PUT ON THE AGENDA, THEY TALK TO ONE OF THEIR COMMISSIONERS.
AND IF IT'S AN IMPORTANT ITEM THEY PUT ON THE AGENDA AND IT COULD BE DISCUSSED AT A FUTURE MEETING.
UH, THE ROUTINE CORRESPONDENCE, UH, LET'S SEE.
I DON'T BELIEVE WE HAVE ANYTHING WE NEED TO THE CONSENT ATTEMPT TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER REAPPOINTING DANA PERRY, ANTHONY
ANY CONCERNS ABOUT THE CONSENT AGENDA? MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE CONSENT.
SECOND MOTION BEEN MADE, AND SECOND ON THE CONSENT AGENDA.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
NOW, MR. CLARK, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO REPEAT WHO, WHO MADE THE MOTION TO THE SECOND I REMEMBER WHO MADE IT.
DID YOU GET THAT LAWYER MOTION MADE BY JIMMY COMMISSIONER ROSALES AND SECOND BY COMMISSIONER SHANE.
I, I USUALLY ON ANGIE TO KICK ME UP HERE WHEN I DO SOMETHING WRONG.
ITEM NUMBER THREE IS STEVE HOOEY DISCUSSING CONSIDERED ADOPTION OF THEIR LOCALS BETWEEN THE COUNTY AND THE CITIES OF TERRELL, MINE AND MAYBANK IN REGARDS TO THEIR PARTICIPATION WITH THE KAUFMAN COUNTY EMERGENCY NOTIFICATION SYSTEM.
STEVEN, UH, WE HAVE THIS ON THE AGENDA, UH, TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE ALL OF OUR CUTS IN A ROW, SO TO SPEAK, SO THAT, UH, THESE THREE CITIES HAVE AGREED TO PARTICIPATE WITH THE EMERGENCY NOTIFICATION SYSTEM, WHICH SAVES THEM MONEY, AND BY THEM PAYING INTO THE COUNTY, THEN IT SAVES US A LITTLE BIT OF MONEY TOO.
SO WE ALL COME OUT WINNERS ON IT, AND IN DOING IT THE CORRECT WAY, WE NEEDED AN INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE TODAY.
ANY QUESTIONS, STEVE? UH, ONE QUESTIONS I ASKED STEVE WAS THE, THE COMPENSATION ON IT DOESN'T HAVE ANY COMPENSATION IN THIS, IT, IT, IT WILL VARY WITH THE, UH, CONTRACT.
UH, THE OVERALL COST IS $27,000 A YEAR.
UH, AND IT'S BASED ON 40 CENTS PER PERSON OF THEIR POPULATION BASED ON
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20 10 CENTS.SO, UH, COMBINE IS $800, $1,200 FOR MAY BANK AND 6,000 FOR CITY OF TER.
AND ALL OF THEM HAD PREVIOUSLY AGREED TO THOSE, THOSE PRICES.
CAN YOU REPEAT THOSE 800 FOR COMBINE 12 AND 6,000 SHOULD THOSE NUMBERS HAVE BEEN ON THIS INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT? WELL, IF WE HAVE TO REDO THE INTERLOCAL, IF THAT CHANGED YEAR TO YEAR OR THIS, THIS, THIS WILL BE INTER LOCAL DISTANCE LAST MINUTE FROM NOW ON.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? IT SAYS THE TERMS HERE BE EFFECTIVE ON THE DATE EXECUTED COUNTY UNTIL SEPTEMBER 20.
SO HAVE TO REVISIT THIS EVERY YEAR.
WE NEED TO, UH, UPDATED CHARGES.
WE NEED TO DO SOME TYPE OF ATTACHMENT TO THIS.
MAY I INTER INTERJECT THERE? UH, FOR THE 2014 BUDGET, UH, MR. HUEY GAVE ME THE NUMBERS FOR EACH OF THE CITIES THAT WOULD BE PARTICIPATING, AND THOSE NUMBERS HAVE BEEN INCLUDED INTO THE GENERAL TIME.
WHY DID, UH, WHY DID SOME OTHER, OTHER CITIES NOT ONE TO PARTICIPATE? I DON'T KNOW.
UH, WHAT I GOT FROM NEY WAS, IS THEY WERE INTERESTED IN IT.
IN FACT, A LOT OF FOLKS OVER THERE HAVE SIGNED UP ON OUR SYSTEM, BUT, UH, APPARENTLY THIS IS PRIOR TO ME COMING HERE, THE COUNTY HAD GONE THROUGH TWO SYSTEMS AND NY HAD PARTICIPATED AND ONE OF 'EM, THEN THE COUNTY DROPPED IT AND THEY WANTED SOME CONSISTENCY.
SO THEY WILL PROBABLY COME ON BOARD IF WE KEEP THIS GOING FOR, YOU KNOW, SEVERAL YEARS.
UH, I THINK THEIR THOUGHT WAS THEY DON'T WANT TO GET INTO SOMETHING AND THEN THE COUNTY DROP IT THE NEXT YEAR OR THE YEAR AFTER, THEN HAVE TO GO FIND SOMEBODY ELSE.
SO, AND THE OTHERS I'VE TALKED TO, UH, HAVE YET TO GET BACK WITH ME TO TELL ME YAY OR NA.
DO YOU HAVE ANY, DO WE HAVE ANY WAY TO, KNOWING HOW MANY PEOPLE HAVE SIGNED UP FOR THIS? UH, ON THE OFF END PART OF IT, WE'VE GOT, UH, BETWEEN FIVE AND 600 RIGHT NOW.
AND ACCORDING TO THE EVERBRIDGE FOLKS, THAT'S REAL GOOD FOR NO LONGER THAN WE'VE HAD INACTIVE, THEY SAID USUALLY GET TO THAT NUMBER.
IT'S ALMOST A YEAR TO GET IT BUILT UP THAT FAR.
SO, UH, WE'RE DOING REALLY WELL AS FAR AS GETTING WORD OUT AND GETTING FOLKS SIGNED UP ON IT.
WELL, THAT'S, UH, WE NEED TO TRY TO, UH, IMPROVE ON OUR COMMUNICATION WITH THE PUBLIC SOMEHOW NOW TO GET MORE PEOPLE SIGNING UP.
BECAUSE FIVE OR 600 PEOPLE FOR $27,000 IS NOT A VERY GOOD PER PERSON.
WE HAVE, UH, ABOUT 30,000 PEOPLE IN THE SYSTEM BECAUSE WE ALSO HAVE THE, UH, WHITE PAGES AND YELLOW PAGES IN THERE ALSO, WHICH WAS PROVIDED IN THE, IN THE PLAN.
THEY'RE, THEY'RE AUTOMATICALLY IN.
AND WHAT WE'RE SEEKING ON THE OPT-IN ARE THE PEOPLE EITHER DON'T HAVE HOME PHONES OR WOULD PREFER IT TO COME TO THE CELL PHONE FIRST.
THAT MAKES IT A LOT MORE REASONABLE, DOESN'T IT? IT'S A BIG, BIG DIFFERENCE.
I, AND, AND I WAS AFRAID YOU WERE GOING GO THAT WAY, BUT
WELL, I THINK WITH HAVING STEVE OVER THIS, UH, BRING WITH SOME THINGS THAT HE'S DOING, I THINK HE'S TAKING A HUGE STEP FOR US IN KEEPING SOME CONSISTENCY AND KEEPING THIS GOING WITH THE COUNTY.
AND I THINK, WE'LL EVERYBODY ON BOARD IN A COUPLE YEARS, MAYBE IN A YEAR.
AND, AND WE'RE WORKING HARD ON IT.
UH, ONE OF MY STAFF, MELISSA SMITH, IS SHE'S GOING TO MEETINGS ALMOST EVERY DAY AND SHE'S CARRYING STUFF WITH HER AND PASSING IT OUT TO PEOPLE AND GOING TO BUSINESSES AND PUTTING IT ON THE BULLET AND BOARDS.
AND I MEAN, SHE HAS DONE A, A VERY OUTSTANDING JOB FOR GETTING WORD OUT.
THANK YOU FOR I WILL CERTAINLY DO THAT.
THEY, UH, ONE OF THE QUESTIONS, DAVID, THIS, UH, RECENTLY LEARNED OF A WIRELESS PRIORITY NUMBER SINCE THAT HAPPENED IN THE STATE OF TEXAS.
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A NATIONAL, YOU TALKING ABOUT THE, WHAT THEY CALL THE WEA WIRELESS EMERGENCY ALERT.THIS WOULD ALLOW CERTAIN INDIVIDUALS LIKE THE SHERIFF OR COMMISSIONER OR THE JUDGE, THEIR CELL PHONE WOULD BE ENACTED WHEN EVERYBODY, WHEN THERE'S A DISASTER AND ALL THE CELL PHONES CRASH BECAUSE EVERYBODY'S GETTING ON THERE AT ONE TIME.
THERE'S TWO DIFFERENT WAYS YOU CAN DO IT.
THERE'S ONE WHERE EACH OF US WOULD HAVE TO CALL A NUMBER TO ACCESS THE NUMBERS IN THAT SYSTEM, WHICH IS KIND OF HARD.
THE OTHER ONE IS A CHARGE FOR EACH INDIVIDUAL CELL PHONE, AN ADDITIONAL CHARGE TO PLACE IT IN, UH, A, A QUEUE FOR EMERGENCY PHONES.
AND I, I, I CAN'T REMEMBER THE COST OF THAT, NOT OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, BUT, UH, THERE'S TWO SYSTEMS THAT WE CAN PUT, YOU KNOW, X NUMBER OF PHONES IN INTO THAT EMERGENCY QUEUE SO THAT THEY WILL ALWAYS GO THROUGH.
COULD YOU CHECK ON THE COST THAT, THE COST AND IMPLEMENTATION IMPLEMENTATION OF THAT POINT? BECAUSE THAT WOULD KIND OF FALL ON THIS RIGHT HERE, CALL IN THE COUNTY ABOUT SOMETHING THAT THOSE CELL PHONES ARE NOT GONNA BE WORKING.
WE DISCOVERED OVER A POINT WITH THE TORNADO AND IF THERE WAS A FEW PEOPLE THAT HAD ACCESS IT, THE EMERGENCY PEOPLE LIKE YOURSELF AND THE SHERIFF THAT COULD GET THROUGH ON CELL PHONES, I THINK IT'D BE A GREAT HELP.
I WOULD CERTAINLY LOOK INTO THAT AND BRING IT BACK TO YOU.
IS THERE A MOTION TO CONSIDER THE ADOPTION OF THEIR LOCAL AGREEMENTS? SO MAY MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER MANDY, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER VER FURTHER DISCUSSION.
YOUR LOCAL AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY OF FORT WORTH FOR ACCESS TO THEIR SPECIAL NEEDS ASSISTANCE PROGRAM FOR THE BENEFIT OF COMPTON COUNTY AND ITS RESIDENCES.
THE SNAP PROGRAM IS GEARED TOWARDS GETTING, UH, VERY SIMILAR TO THE STATE, UH, UH, TEXAS EMERGENCY ASSISTANCE REGISTRY.
IT'S A LOT MORE USER FRIENDLY AND IT'LL BE EASIER ACCESS FOR OUR RESIDENTS TO GET INTO THAT SYSTEM.
AND WHAT IS, IS OUR FUNCTIONAL NEEDS RESIDENTS, PEOPLE IN WHEELCHAIRS OR BEDRIDDEN ON WALKERS.
UH, IT MAY EVEN BE SOMEBODY THAT HAS LANGUAGE ISSUES THAT MAY NEED EXTRA ASSISTANCE IN THE EVENT OF A DISASTER.
THEY REGISTER THROUGH THIS SYSTEM THAT GIVES US A LIST WHAT THEIR, THEIR NEEDS ARE, WHERE THEY'RE LOCATED.
AND THAT ALLOWS US TO, TO ALSO USE OUR EMERGENCY NOTIFICATION SYSTEM TO LET THEM KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON.
AND, YOU KNOW, WE CAN TARGET THEM AND LET 'EM KNOW THAT WE'VE GOT ADDITIONAL HELP COMING TO THEM.
UH, WE ASK SOMEBODY THAT'S BEDRIDDEN AND ON OXYGEN, WE KNOW THAT TO GET THEM OUT THERE, WE'VE GOTTA SEND AN AMBULANCE OVER THERE.
SO BY IDENTIFYING THESE PEOPLE AND THEIR NEEDS THAT IT ENABLES US TO MORE QUICKLY AND PROPERLY ASSIST THESE PEOPLE IN THE TIME OF A DISASTER, WHO WOULD BE DISPATCHED TO THESE PEOPLE? IT WOULD DEPEND ON WHERE IT WAS AND WHO IT WAS.
IT WOULD GO THROUGH SHERIFF'S OFFICE OR LOCAL DISPATCH.
UH, WE WOULD PROVIDE THESE NUMBERS TO EACH OF THOSE ENTITIES AND, UH, THAT WAY THEY CAN HAVE 'EM FOR ACCESS ALSO.
AND WE CAN TAKE THE SNAP SYSTEM, LIKE I SAID, WHICH IS EASIER FOR EVERYBODY TO REGISTER AND LINK IT TO THE STEER PROGRAM SO THAT THERE'S ACTUALLY A DUAL LIST, UH, THAT WE CAN USE.
SO IF THEY REGISTER ON ONE, THEN IT POPS UP ON THE OTHER.
AND I LIKE THE COST OF THIS ONE MUCH, MUCH BETTER.
WE COULDN'T GET 'EM DOWN ANY CHEAPER.
WELL, THEY HAVEN'T CHARGED ANYBODY YET.
THOSE Y'ALL DON'T HAVE CAPITAL CONTRACT.
THE MAXIMUM COST IS $1 PER YEAR.
AND I'M SURE WE CAN FIND THAT IN BUDGET SOMEWHERE.
IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? IS THERE A MOTION? MOTION TO DISCUSS INTER INTERLOPING BEFORE SECOND MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER.
SECOND BY COMMISSIONER MANNING.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? A A, STEVE STILL UP HERE FOR NUMBER FIVE, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER THE DOCTRINE OF THE
APPENDIX ONE TO APPEND TO J OR ONE TODAY OF THE COUNTY EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT PLAN.
THAT'S A LOT OF STUFF HERE ON THIS.
UM, ESSENTIALLY WHAT THAT DOCUMENT DOES IS IT'S OUR PLAN ON HOW TO PROCEED AFTER A MAJOR DISASTER.
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LIKE THE JOB OF MISSOURI OR MORE OKLAHOMA TYPE OF DISASTER.UH, STUDIES HAVE PROVEN THAT, UH, UP TO, I BELIEVE IT'S, UH, 38 TO 40% OF BUSINESSES AFTER THAT LEVEL OF DISASTER WILL RELOCATE.
AND UP TO ABOUT 30% OF YOUR RESIDENTS THAT HAVE BEEN AFFECTED WILL RELOCATE.
AND IF YOU LOOK AT OUR ECONOMIC STRUCTURE AND ABILITY IN THIS COUNTY, IF SAY NEY OR TERRELL OR COFFMAN, ONE OF THE BIGGER CITIES WERE TO LOSE, YOU KNOW, 35, 40% OF THEIR BUSINESSES, THAT'S GOING TO TOTALLY DESTROY THEIR ECONOMY.
AND IN THIS, UTILIZING THIS PLAN AND EFFECTIVELY MANAGING OUR RECOVERY EFFORTS, THEN WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO SAY MOST, IF NOT ALL OF THOSE, THOSE BUSINESSES KEEP THEM LOCATED IN OUR COUNTY.
IT'S ALSO GONNA HELP US TO MOVE QUICKER AND FASTER TOWARDS GETTING BACK TO NORMAL.
NOW IN MIND THAT LIN IS STILL NOT BACK IN NORMAL AND NEITHER IS MORE OKLAHOMA.
THESE ARE MULTI-YEAR RECOVERY PROGRAMS. BUT IF YOU DON'T HAVE A PLAN, THEN YOU'RE JUST KIND OF STUMBLING IN THE DARK AND YOU USUALLY DON'T GET WHERE YOU WANT TO BE.
AND, AND THIS PLAN ADDRESSES PRETTY MUCH EVERYTHING.
UM, OUR CITIES AND, AND THIS IS STUFF STILL YET TO BE DONE.
WE NEED TO GO TO THE CITIES, WORK WITH THEM ON ZONING AND THINGS LIKE THAT SO THAT, UM, HISTORIC DOWNTOWN MATERIAL, LET'S SAY, YOU KNOW, IT'S GONE THROUGH THERE AND LOCKED OUT ALL OF THAT.
IF THEY GO WITH CURRENT BUILDING CODES, YOU CAN'T BUILD HISTORIC DOWNTOWN BACK.
LIKE IT'S, SO YOU'VE GOTTA MAKE EXCEPTIONS TO YOUR, YOUR BUILDING CODES TO ALLOW THEM TO RESTORE IT THROUGH THE PRE-DISASTER CONDITION.
SO WE'VE GOTTA LOOK AT THE HISTORICAL ASPECTS, WE'VE GOTTA LOOK AT THE CURRENT BUILDING CODES.
AND AS PART PART OF OUR MITIGATION PLAN THAT'S COMING UP, WE'RE GONNA LOOK AT WHAT WE CAN DO TO MAKE THESE THINGS BETTER, TO MINIMIZE THE DAMAGE OR, OR TOTALLY NEGATE ANY DAMAGE IN FUTURE DISASTERS.
SO THIS IS KIND OF THAT PLAN THAT'S GONNA TIE A LOT OF THESE OTHER THINGS TOGETHER IN THE EVENTS THAT HAPPENS.
AND, AND PART OF THIS PLAN IS THE APPOINTMENT OF A, OF A RECOVERY COMMITTEE THAT WILL MEET DAILY OR WEEKLY OR HOWEVER OFTEN INE NECESSARY TO LOOK AT EVERY SINGLE ISSUE INVOLVED IN OUR RECOVERY EFFORTS TO MAKE SURE WE'RE GOING DOWN THE RIGHT PATH.
AND THAT COMMITTEE WILL BE RESPONSIBLE TO THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE FOLLOWING EVERYBODY'S GUIDANCE AS WELL AS THE CITY COUNCIL.
THERE'S NOT GONNA BE A TEST ON THIS.
IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S PROBABLY AN EXTENSIVE DOCUMENT YOU PUT TOGETHER FOR US.
AND I SAY HOPEFULLY WHENEVER WE HAVE TO USE IT, I HOPE WE DON'T.
AND IS THERE A MOTION TO CONSIDER THE DOCTRINE OF THE COMPTON COUNTY RECOVERY PLAN? SO MOVED.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE.
THE DISCUSSION AND EXPLANATION.
WE'RE GONNA GO BACK TO NUMBER SIX THEN.
DISCUSS AND CONSIDER MOVING THE RETURN OF CAN ROAD 40 23 TO STATE HIGHWAY 1 75 TO THE JURISDICTION OF COMPTON COUNTY, I BELIEVE COMMISSIONER THAT.
THE, UH, CITY KEMP, UH, APPARENTLY HAD, UH, A DO HAD, UH, ANNEXED A PIECE OF PROPERTY WHICH WAS NOT, UH, CONTIGUOUS WITH THE CITY KE ON 40 23.
AND, UH, IT WAS NOT, THEIR ATTORNEYS LOOKED IT OVER AND IT WAS NOT DONE PROPERLY.
SO, UH, THEY WANT TO TURN IT BACK TO THE COUNTY.
AND, UH, SINCE IT'S ALREADY BEEN REDONE, THIS NEEDS TO BEED.
SO I MOVE, WE TAKE THAT SAVES 40 23 BACK TO THE CITY.
MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER MANNING.
A NOW WE GET TO TALK TO MS. IFF, MR. DISCUSSION EXPLANATION OF GO BACK TAXES
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BY TEXAS CON LIFT AND CHIEF APPRAISER.AT OUR PREVIOUS MEETING, JUDGE WOOD HAD ASKED THAT WE COME IN AND DO A SHORT TUTORIAL TOGETHER, UH, ON HOW AG ROLLBACKS WORK WORK.
AND THEY ALWAYS START WITH THE APPRAISED, THE LAND BEING APPRAISED AS BEING AGRICULTURAL.
SO THAT STARTS WITH APPRAISAL DISTRICT.
WELL, AS, AS, UH, MS. RACK, SHE'S, UH, READ SOME PROCEDURES THAT ARE VERY WELL DETAILED OUT AND BASICALLY, UH, FROM THE INCREDIBLE DISTRICT STANDPOINT, UM, IT JUST OUT OUTLINE HOW WE LOOK AT A PIECE OF PROPERTY WHEN A AND WE WANNA MAKE IT SPECIFIC THAT CHANGE OF USE OCCURS WHEN THERE IS A PHYSICAL CHANGE TO THE LAND.
UH, A LOT OF TIMES INTERPRETATION OF CHANGE, OWNERSHIP AND UH, UH, SIMILAR ASPECTS OF THAT WILL TRIGGER ROLLBACK.
UH, WHEN WE LOOK AT IT, DETERMINE THERE IS A CHANGE OF USE.
WE, UH, GO THROUGH THE, UH, APPROPRIATE STEPS OF NOTIFYING THE, UH, PROPERTY OWNER OF THE, UH, CHANGE OF USE.
SEND NOTIFICATION FROM THAT STANDPOINT.
UH, IF THERE'S NO DISCUSSIONS OR NO, UH, DISAGREEMENTS, WE GET THEM TO SIGN A WAIVER.
UH, THEN WE RECEIVE FOR SENDING IT TO, SOMETIMES THERE IS A, UH, PROTESTS THAT ARE FILED ON THAT.
AND, UH, IF THAT'S THE CASE, THEN IT GOES TO THE APPROPRIATE MEASURE, GONNA APPRAISAL REVIEW BOARD THE STEPS THAT ENCOUNTERED FROM THERE.
UH, BUT ONCE WE GET, UH, THE SIGN OFF, THEN WE SEND THAT INFORMATION TO, SHE, UH, GOES, OKAY, SO ONCE THE APPRAISAL DISTRICT HAS MADE THEIR DETERMINATION OF WHETHER THE LAND IS AG EXEMPT OR IT HAS, IS NO LONGER AG EXEMPT, THEN THE TAX OFFICE HAS TO TAKE ACTION ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.
IF IT'S NEW COMING INTO TAX TAX EXEMPTION FOR, FOR AGRICULTURAL EXEMPTION, THEN WE'LL CONSIDER THAT.
'CAUSE WHAT HAPPENS IS THE APPRAISER DECIDES TWO THINGS.
HE DECIDES WELL, THREE ACTUALLY DECIDES IF IT'S AGRICULTURAL USE.
SECONDLY, WHAT'S THE AGRICULTURAL VALUE? AND THIRDLY, WHAT'S THE MARKET VALUE? SO IF IT'S IN AG, AG, WE CHARGE TAXES ON THE AG VALUE.
IF IT COMES OUT, IF IT WAS BEING USED AS AGRICULTURE AND IT COMES OUTTA AGRICULTURAL USE, THEN WE HAVE TO GO BACK TO THE MARKET VALUE THAT THE APPRAISAL DISTRICT PUT ON IT.
AND FOR THE LAST FIVE YEARS THAT IT'S BEEN IN AG, WE HAVE TO GO BACK FIVE YEARS AND CHARGE THEM THE DIFFERENCE OF WHAT THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE MARKET VALUE AND THE AG VALUE BECAUSE THEY WEREN'T TAXED ON THAT PART.
SO WE'VE GOTTA ADD THOSE TAXES UP FOR THE LAST FIVE YEARS AND FROM THE LAST TIME THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN TAXED STARTING THEN, YOU KNOW, AS FAR BACK FIVE YEARS BACK, WE GOTTA ADD 7% PENALTIES IN INTEREST ONTO THAT.
IT'S NOT SOMETHING WE'VE CHOSE IN THIS COUNTY WHERE TO DRAW THE LINE.
SO IF THE LAND USE CHANGES FROM AG TO SOMETHING ELSE THAT TRIGGERS THE ROLLBACK AND US TO HAVE TO RE-FIGURE THEIR TAXES.
NOW THEY DO GET A A BIT OF A, A BREAK IN TERMS OF WHEN THEY HAVE TO PAY IT.
UH, IF, IF THEY LAND CHANGE USE, SAY ON 25 JANUARY, AND THEY GET SENT OUT A NOTICE THAT THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO PAY, UH, THE ROLLBACK TAXES THEY GET UNTIL FEBRUARY 1ST, NOW NOT FEBRUARY 1ST, AS IN, YOU KNOW, SIX DAYS FROM NINE OR SEVEN DAYS FROM THEN THEY GET UNTIL THEY HAVE TO HAVE AT LEAST 20 DAYS NOTICE BEFORE THE NEXT FEBRUARY 1ST.
SO IF IT IN JULY, IT'S THE NEXT FEBRUARY 1ST THAT THE TAXES BECOME DELINQUENT.
SO THEY GET THROUGH 31 JANUARY OF THE FOLLOWING YEAR TO PAY THE ROLLBACK TAXES.
WHAT THE TAX OFFICE DOES THOUGH, IS IN A CASE OF A FIVE YEAR ROLLBACK, WE IMMEDIATELY ATTACH A LIEN TO THE PROPERTY SO THAT WE CAN BE ASSURED OF GETTING OUR TAXES, THE ROLLBACK TAXES.
UH, AND I THINK THAT ONE QUESTION THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE IS, WELL, WHO, WHO PAYS THE ROLLBACK TAXES? IF I SELL MY AGRICULTURAL LAND TO SOMEBODY ELSE, DO THEY PAY OR DO I PAY? WELL, THAT'S BETWEEN YOU AND THEM AND WHAT YOU PUT IN YOUR AGREEMENT WHEN YOU PURCHASE THE PROPERTY.
SO IF YOU KNOW, LIKE DEVELOPERS ARE CLEVER ENOUGH TO KNOW THERE'S GONNA BE ROLLBACK TAXES AND THEY'LL PROBABLY PUT IT IN THE AGREEMENT.
SOMETIMES GENERAL POPULATION IS NOT AS ALERT TO THAT 'CAUSE THEY NEVER MAYBE OWN AG PROPERTY BEFORE AND UNDERSTAND HOW IT WORKS.
SO IT'S REALLY A MATTER OF WHAT'S IN YOUR AGREEMENT AS FAR AS WHO PAYS.
LET'S SAY BOTH OF 'EM ARE KIND OF NOT AWARE OF THAT AND NEITHER ONE OF THEM PUT WHO'S RESPONSIBLE.
HOW DOES THAT WORK AS THAT THE NEW OWNER OF NEW OWNER HAS TO PAY THE TAXES? THE NEW ONE.
THAT, THAT'S WHO WE HAD ADMINISTERED
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IT TO.WHEN YOU SAID CHANGE OF USE OCCURRED.
'CAUSE THE CHANGE OF USE WOULD GO WITH A NEW OWNER, HE CHANGED THE USE.
SO THEN HE WOULD PAY THE, UH, ROLLBACK TAXES.
UM, IN, IN RESEARCHING THIS, THE ONE THING THAT I JUST FOUND OF INTEREST THAT I WANT TO THROW OUT THERE, 'CAUSE I HADN'T HEARD THIS BEFORE AND IT'S FAIRLY NEW, BUT YOU CAN NOW GET AGRICULTURAL EXEMPTION.
YOU RAISE A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF BEES PER ACRES
SO THAT'S, THAT'S SOMETHING NEW BECAUSE OF THE ISSUE OF AN AMOUNT OF POLLINATION GOING ON ACROSS THE COUNTRY THAT TEXAS IS ADOPTED, THAT, THAT YOU CAN GET AGRICULTURAL EXEMPTION FOR RAISING BEES.
AND ALL THE RULES ON THINGS LIKE THAT ARE
THE COUNTY DOESN'T HAVE ANY, THEIR OWN RULES IN REGARDS TO PROCEDURES.
NOW YOUR, YOUR LOCAL, UH, INTENSITY LEVEL ARE ESTABLISHED BY YOUR, YOUR LOCAL FARMERS ACROSS THE STATE.
IT'S COMMON PRACTICE FOR, YOU HAVE A TEAM THAT WORKS.
THEY'RE, THEY'RE AGRICULTURAL ADVISORY COMMITTEE, UH, MEMBERS OF SEVEN OF THE CITIZENS OF COUNTY THAT, THAT ADVISE THIS, UH, MR. DAVIS, UH, COUNTY EXTENSION AGENT, UH, AND MR. REEDS OVER AT 20 USDA OFFICER ON THAT
AND IF THEY, IF THEY DO NOT NOTIFY YOU, HOW DO YOU, UH, HOW DO YOU FIND OUT THAT IT'S DONE? I MEAN, YOU JUST, UH, HAVE IT BE DRIVING BY AND SAY, OH, THEY'RE BUILDING HOUSES OR ROADS OUT THERE OR SOMETHING.
DO WE HAVE A NOTIFICATION ACROSS IT? NO, SIR.
UH, WOULD IT BE PRUDENT FOR THE COUNTY TO REQUIRE, UH, A UH, WHEN SOMEBODY SUBMITTED A A SUBDIVISION APPLICATION, WOULD IT BE PRUDENT TO, UH, HAVE THE CLERK'S OFFICE TO SEND YOU THAT APPLICATION WHERE YOU CAN PUT IT IN A FILE AND, AND MORE OR LESS KIND OF KEEP AN EYE ON THAT PARTICULAR PIECE OF PROPERTY OVER? NO, WE DO GET THOSE AND, AND THAT OH, YOU DO GET, YES.
WHEN WE SEE A SUBDIVISION PLA WE CHECK, SEE IF IT'S AN AGRICULTURAL STATUS.
AND, YOU KNOW, WE'LL MONITOR NOW WE, WE WON'T JUST DO A ROLL BACK.
SO WE'LL CONTINUE TO MONITOR THAT.
BUT WHEN THEY START BUILDING ROADS OR HOUSES ABSOLUTELY.
I JUST WONDER WHAT THE NOTIFICATIONS PROCEDURES WERE.
BUT, BUT SOME OF THE OTHERS THAT YOU MIGHT SEE, UH, IT'S JUST THE APPRAISERS WHEN THEY'RE OUT THE FIELD CHECK JUST HAVE, YES.
WHAT'S THE PROCESS IF YOU LOSE RIGHT EXEMPTION TO REGAIN IT.
FIVE YEAR HISTORY HAVE REESTABLISHED FIVE, FIVE OR SEVEN YEARS IS THE, THE, UH, PROGRAM.
SO YOU CAN HAVE IT FOR TWO YEARS LAYING IDLE WITH SOME TYPE OF AGRICULTURAL PRACTICE, UH, FENCE REPAIR, RE RE RESIGN, RIGGING, BRUSH CONTROL, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
BUT IF IT LOSES THAT TWO YEAR WINDOW, THEN YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO REESTABLISH FOR FIVE YEARS.
SO YOU HAVE TO WAIT, IT'S A FIVE, YOU HAVE FIVE YEAR WAITING PERIOD BEFORE YOU GO BACK TO AG USE.
SO THAT'S TWO YEARS OF SAY, REVITALIZATION OR WHATEVER.
WELL, ASSUMING THAT THEY'VE ALREADY GOT THEIR FIVE YEAR HISTORY, THAT THEY CAN HAVE SOME KIND OF PRACTICES FOR THOSE TWO YEARS.
UH, TAKE FOR EXAMPLE, THE DROUGHT CONDITIONS WE WERE UNDER IN THOUSAND 11.
A LOT OF, UH, THE RANCHERS PULLED THEIR CATTLE OFF IT, TRYING TO ALIZE THEIR PASTURE, THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO, YOU KNOW, WE, WE CERTAINLY, UH, TAKE THOSE EFFECTS AND LOOK AT THOSE CONDITIONS THAT WOULD ADHERE TO SOME.
I APPRECIATE THE INFORMATION ISSUE WITH THE ROLL UNDERSTANDING OF SUBDIVISION.
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MS. TANYA IS GOING TO DISCUSS THE NEW PROCEDURES FOR VOTING.UH, IN THE ELECTION CODE SECTION 1 23 0.005, IT'S ONLY TWO SENTENCES.
SO I WANNA READ IT TO YOU SO I'LL KNOW EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
IT READS, UH, MULTIPLE METHODS OF VOTING AT THE SAME POLLING PLACE AS A TITLE EXCEPT AS OTHERWISE PROVIDED BY THIS CODE.
ONLY ONE KIND OF VOTING SYSTEM MAY BE USED AT A POLLING PLACE IN AN ELECTION, EXCEPT AS OTHERWISE PROVIDED BY THIS TITLE.
REGULAR PAPER BALLOTS MAY NOT BE USED AT A POLLING PLACE USING A VOTING SYSTEM.
WHILE I'VE BEEN TALKING WITH SECRETARY OF STATE AND WITH OUR OWN CIVIL ATTORNEYS.
AND THE INTERPRETATION OF THAT IS YOU MAY NOT HAVE THE ELECTRONIC VOTING SYSTEM AND PAPER BALLOTS AT THE SAME POLLING LOCATION.
YOU MAY HAVE PAPER AND ELECTRONIC DURING THE SAME ELECTION, BUT THEY HAVE TO BE AT DIFFERENT VOTING SITES.
NOW, ALONG WITH THAT IS, UM, THE DISCUSSION IN FURTHER ARTICLES IN THE ELECTION CODE AS TO WHO GETS TO MAKE THAT DECISION FOR ALL OF THE, UM, GOVERNOR OR COUNTY CALLED ELECTIONS.
THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT MAKES THAT DECISION FOR THE PRIMARIES.
THE PARTIES MAKE THAT DECISION AND THEY'RE REQUIRED TO GO TO THEIR PRECINCT CHAIRS AND DISCUSS IT AND GET TOGETHER AND TELL US HOW THEY WANT THE VOTING SYSTEM TO VOTE UP.
DO THEY WANT PAPER HERE, ELECTRONIC HERE OR ALL PAPER OR ALL ELECTRONIC? IT'S UP TO THEM.
AND THE SAME THING HAPPENS WHEN YOU COME TO SCHOOL AND CITY ELECTIONS.
THE SCHOOLS AND THE CITIES THAT HAVE JOINT ELECTIONS HAVE TO GET TOGETHER AND AGREE.
'CAUSE GENERALLY THERE'S ONLY ONE SITE FOR THEM TO MAKE COMBINE.
SO THEY HAVE TO AGREE ON WHAT TYPE OF SYSTEM THEY WANT TO USE.
I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE YOU WERE AWARE OF THIS.
THERE'S NOTHING YOU NEED TO DO RIGHT NOW.
I'M JUST KIND OF INFORMING YOU.
THIS IS HOW WE'LL BE FUNCTIONING IN THE FUTURE.
SO THIS UPCOMING PRIMARY SUBDIVISION, THE PARTIES, AND THEY, UH, SOME OF 'EM HAD MET LAST WEEK.
I THINK ONE OF 'EM WAS MEETING THIS WEEK.
AND THEN THEY'RE GONNA GET TOGETHER AND, UH, IT ACTUALLY HAS TO BE, YOU HAVE TO ADOPT A RESOLUTION OR SOMEHOW YOU HAVE TO ADOPT THE VOTING SESSIONS, UH, VOTING SYSTEM.
SO THEY'RE WORKING TOGETHER ON THAT AND I'M HELPING 'EM PUT TOGETHER HOW TO WRITE UP WHAT THEY'VE ADOPTED SO THAT WE COULD GET THAT MOVING.
HAVE THERE BEEN COMBINED PAPER AND ELECTRONIC, UH, VOTING PROCEDURES IN THE, IN THE PREVIOUS YES.
IN OTHER WORDS, THEY'VE BEEN COMBINED SO WE'RE NOT COMPLIANT WITH THE, WITH THE ELECTION CODE.
SO WHAT THIS GOING ALREADY HAD A COUPLE CALLS ON THIS.
UH, WHAT THIS ONE INVOLVE IS THAT WHEN YOU GO INTO YOUR VOTING PRECINCT DOWN THERE, YOU YOU'RE NOT GONNA TO VOTE BALLOT YET.
WE DECIDE TO GO
YOU'RE NOT BE ABLE TO DO ELECTRONIC VOTING.
IF WE DECIDE TO GO
DALLAS COUNTY SAID THIS IS NOT THE CASE.
ROCKWALL COUNTY, THEIR ELECTION ADMINISTRATOR OVER THERE SAID THEY'RE NOT GONNA FOLLOW THIS BECAUSE, UH, THE SECRETARY OF STATE IS SUPPOSED TO SEND THERESA A LETTER OF, UH, CLARIFICATION ON THIS AND THAT, UH, SINCE THIS HAS BEEN ON THE BOOKS SINCE THE EIGHTIES BEFORE ELECTRONIC BALLOTS EVEN CAME ABOUT, I WOULD IMAGINE THAT THEY'RE THINK, THE WAY I UNDERSTOOD IT, THEY'RE ANTICIPATING PAPER BALLOTS TO MEAN BALLOTS THAT ARE COUNTED MANUALLY.
IF YOU COUNT YOUR PAPER BALLOTS ELECTRONICALLY LIKE WE DO, THEN THIS DOESN'T QUOTE, THIS DOES NOT, UH, PERTAIN.
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S ALL TRUE OR NOT, BUT I I MEAN YES, COMMISSIONER, I I THINK I CAN CLARIFY THAT QUESTION THERE.
I I DON'T THINK IT WOULD MATTER WHETHER OR NOT WE'RE DEFINING IT AS COUNTY BY HAND OR BY MACHINE, BECAUSE I THINK THE CODE CLEARLY STATES THAT THE, YOU CAN'T PASS A VOTING SYSTEM, WHETHER IT BE ELECTRONIC OR ANYTHING ELSE, HAND, PAPER BALLOTS.
SO IT DOESN'T MATTER HOW YOU'RE COUNTING THEM, WHETHER YOU'RE COUNTING THEM THE PAPER BALLOTS BY MACHINE OR BY HAND, YOU STILL CAN'T HAVE THAT.
THAT'S, THAT'S MY INTERPRETATION OF IT.
THERE ARE OTHER COUNTIES OUT THERE WHO AGREE WITH THAT INTERPRETATION AND POST SIGNS OF IT SAYS IT IS NOT YOUR RIGHT TO HAVE A PAPER OR ELECTRONIC BALLOT.
YOU KNOW, YOU, YOU HAVE WHATEVER.
YOU DON'T, YOU DON'T HAVE, THEY MOST PEOPLE DO BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN DOING IT THAT WAY.
FEEL IT IS THEIR RIGHT TO HAVE BOTH.
BUT SOME COUNTIES, UM, INTERPRET IT AS, AS OUR COUNTY THEN, WHICH IS THAT YOU DON'T HAVE THAT.
IT'S DECIDED BY THE ELECTION AUTHORITY.
IT'S, IT'S KIND OF UNUSUAL THAT PEOPLE WILL, UH, TRUST THEIR BANK ACCOUNTS, THEIR CREDIT CARDS AND A LOT OF THINGS TO ELECTRONIC ACCOUNTING SYSTEMS,
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BUT THEY'RE NOT GONNA, THEY'RE NOT GONNA VOTE.THEY WANT THEIR VOTE TO BE ON PAPER.
AND I TELL PROBABLY A LOT OF ELDERLY PEOPLE WHEN THEY COME OVER TO VOTE, AT LEAST IN MY PRECINCT, THEY'RE NOT GONNA LIKE THIS AT ALL AS LONG AS THEY'LL RING OFF THE WALL.
WELL, ONE WAY TO GET AROUND THAT WOULD BE ON EARLY VOTING WHERE YOU HAVE TWO WEEKS OF VOTING TO PICK ONE OF THE SUBSTATIONS, ONE OF THE FOUR EARLY VOTING SITES AND MAKE IT ALL PAPER.
SO ANYBODY WHO WANTS TO VOTE PAPER HAS TWO WEEKS TO VOTE PAPER AND EVERYONE ELSE IS ELECTRONIC BECAUSE ANYONE CAN VOTE IN ANY OF THE FOUR SUBSTATIONS FOR EARLY VOTING.
WELL, THEY'RE NOT GONNA WANNA DRIVE FROM KEMP TO POINT TO VOTE ON PAPER.
I MEAN, EVEN THOUGH THAT'S, THEY'RE GONNA HAVE A HARD TIME TRYING TO DO ELECTRONIC THING.
A LOT OF THE, A LOT OF THE OLDER PEOPLE LIKE MYSELF, EVEN THOUGH I DO ELECTRONIC, THEY DON'T TRUST THE ELECTRONIC SYSTEM.
YOU KNOW, IT'S GONNA BE, IT'S CHANGED AND CHANGE IS HARD FOR EVERYBODY.
I WILL SAY, WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT CAMP, CAMP IS ALMOST ALL ELECTRONIC, YOU DON'T HARDLY EVER FIND ANYBODY WHO WANTS TO VOTE PAPER THERE.
PATRICK, HAVE YOU GOT SOMETHING TO SAY? UH, IF I MAY, MR. CLARK? UH, YOU SURE CAN.
TUESDAY, THURSDAY, A WEEK AGO WE FOUND OUT ABOUT THIS.
UH, I HAD TALKED TO OUR STATE PARTY.
THEY TELL ME THIS IS THE LAW THAT YOU CAN'T HAVE BOTH.
I'VE TALKED TO SECRETARY OF STATE'S OFFICE, JUST LIKE, UH, THE TAX ASSESSOR.
COULD THEY TELL ME THE SAME THING? I DON'T KNOW WHEN IT BECAME LAW.
UH, I HAVE ASKED, UH, I ASKED, WHAT IF WE DON'T ABIDE BY THAT? WHAT IF WE JUST DO IT THE WAY YOU SAY THEY DO IT IN DALLAS OR THEY DO IT IN ROCK WALL? THEY SAID, WELL, IF SOMEBODY CALLS THE SUIT AGAINST YOU, YOUR ELECTIONS COULD BE THROWN OUT.
I DON'T THINK WE CAN TAKE THAT CHANCE.
I KNOW THIS IS GONNA BE A TOUGH DECISION.
I'VE ALSO ASKED SECRETARY OF STATE'S OFFICE FOR A WAIVER OF THE PRIMARY.
THEY HAVE NOT RESPONDED BACK TO ME YET TO SEE IF THEY GIVE A WAIVER.
WE HAVE DISCUSSED HAVING EARLY VOTING LOCATIONS.
WE DISCUSSED ONE, POSSIBLY WE COULD HAVE TWO OR TWO WOULD BE ELECTRONIC, TWO WOULD BE PAPER, UH, TO, TO TRY TO GET THROUGH THIS, UH, THIS PRIMARY SEASON.
UH, YOU KNOW, IT WAS, IT'S NEWS TO ME.
I'VE BEEN TO EVERY, UH, ELECTION SEMINAR HELD SINCE I WAS ELECTED COUNTY CHAIRMAN IN 2007.
NOT ONCE HAS ANYBODY EVER BROUGHT THIS UP.
WE HAVE DONE OUR ELECTIONS UP THROUGH THE NOVEMBER ELECTION OF LAST YEAR USING BOTH AT EACH LOCATION.
UM, SO IT'S KIND OF, UH, WE'RE GETTING BLINDSIDED BY THIS.
I WISH I COULD HAVE KNOWN THIS SOONER, BUT WE JUST DIDN'T CAME TO OUR ATTENTION A COUPLE WEEKS AGO.
WE'RE TRYING TO WORK THROUGH IT.
WE WILL, WE WILL MEET WITH OUR EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE TONIGHT AND, UH, AND VOTE ON WHICH PROCEDURE TO, UH, TO ADOPT AND TRY TO ADOPT
WE, UH, YOU KNOW, WE CONTRACT WITH THE COUNTY TO DO CERTAIN THINGS, PROVIDE MACHINES, DO THE COUNTING.
UH, I WISH IT WAS SOLD THAT EVEN THOUGH WE'RE USING PAPER, WE'RE ACTUALLY COUNTING THEM ON A MVB AND I, I WISH THAT WOULD BE CONSIDERED ELECTRONIC, BUT EVIDENTLY THE, THE STATUTE'S PRETTY CLEAR WHEN IT SAYS YOU CAN'T USE PAPER BALLOTS IN ELECTRONIC IN THE SAME POLL LOCATION.
SO, YOU KNOW, I JUST WANT TO BRING THIS TO Y'ALL ATTENTION.
AND SO YOU THAT ARE ON THE BALLOT, UH, I I WOULD MAKE THIS SUGGESTION TO Y'ALL IN THE FUTURE AND WE'RE GOING TO BE BUYING NEW MACHINES, I'M SURE BECAUSE THESE ARE GOING TO GET
I'M CERTAIN THERE IS AN ELECTRONIC MACHINE OUT THERE THAT DOES A PAPER TRAIL THAT WILL PRINT YOU OUT HOW YOU VOTE.
I WOULD THINK IF, YOU KNOW, I PERSONALLY, I I DON'T WANT TO GO BACK TO PAPER.
I'D RATHER US MOVE FORWARD WITH ELECTRONIC.
BUT I KNOW THERE IS A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT, UH, THAT DON'T TRUST ELECTRONIC BECAUSE YOU DON'T ACTUALLY HAVE SOMETHING THAT SHOWS YOU HOW YOU VOTE OTHER THAN WHAT'S ON THAT MDV.
SO I WOULD THINK GOING FORWARD, IF THERE IS A MACHINE THAT WILL PRINT OUT SOMETHING THAT, THAT'S WHAT WE LOOK AT BY PURCHASING.
AND THE OTHER THING IS FOR YOUR CONSTITUENTS THAT ARE 65 OR OLDER, THEY CAN ALWAYS ASK FOR A PAPER BALLOT BY MAIL AND, AND THEN THEY CAN STILL VOTE PAPER.
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AN EDUCATION OUT THERE TOO IS GONNA BE VERY EXTREMELY DIFFICULT.AND THAT'S WHY I'VE ASKED FOR A WAIVER.
I JUST THINK IT'S TOO LESS TIME FOR US TO DO THAT.
BUT I HADN'T HEARD ANY OTHER QUESTIONS.
MR. COUNTRYMAN PRESENT AND POSSIBLY ACCEPT THE TREASURER'S MONTHLY REPORT FOR DECEMBER, 2013.
AND UM, YOU CAN IMAGINE WE DO THIS NEXT MONTH, IT'S GONNA BE SEVERAL MILLION DOLLARS IN 80 BALLOTS.
I PUT SOME MONEY INTO THE, UM, CONSTRUCTION PHONE AND I GOT A PHONE CALL IN.
TOLD SALE SALES AND PARKING BANK WE'RE ANY QUESTION LOOKING FOR A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE TREASURY REPORT? DECEMBER, 2013.
SO MADE MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER MAD.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
AND WE DID HAVE PERFECT EXCEEDED THE, UH, RECEIPT THE LAST TWO MONTHS.
MOTION TO ACCEPT THE TREASURY REPORT.
UH, DOWN HERE AT THE BOTTOM, JOHNNY, WHERE IT SAYS TAX POOL INTEREST.
MR. SHANE, FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
AGENDA PRESENT EXCEPT TREASURERS INVESTMENT REPORT ENDING DECEMBER, 2013.
YOUR MOTION TO ACCEPT THE COURT.
UH, AT ONE 30 FRIDAY AFTERNOON, IT'S OPEN 60 DEGREE RANGE.
AND WE'RE GOING TO DEDICATE THE 180 5 HIGHWAY FROM CAN LINE.
CAN LINE AS THE WORLD HIGHWAY.
WE HAVE A CEREMONY OUT IN PARK.
WHAT TIME WOULD THAT BE? ITEM NUMBER 12, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER SIGNING CONTRACT WITH EDDIE WILSON TO THE RENOVATION OF UPSTAIRS ANNEX BUILDING.
MR. SEBASTIAN? GOOD MORNING COMMISSIONER, YOUR HONOR.
EASY, UH, GENTLEMEN, WE'RE GONNA APOLOGIZE TO YOU LATE.
IT'S NOT THAT I WAS HOLDING THAT, WE'RE JUST NOT FINALIZING SOME STUFF.
SO, UH, CLARK INVOLVED, I HAVE BEEN KIND OF WORKING ON THIS THING ON AND OFF FOR SOME TIME NOW.
AND UH, YOU SEE THAT THE NUMBER GOT DOWN TO, I THINK YOU RECEIVED AN EMAIL FROM ME FRIDAY, UH, FOR ADDING SOME PULLING OF THE AS 40.
WE'RE GONNA BE LESS THAN HALF OF THAT.
SO WE HAVE SOME ITEMS IN HERE.
WE'VE GOT BEAT THIS COMPANY UP PRETTY GOOD.
I THINK WE'VE GOT THE DOWN RECOMMENDATION PENDING,
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PENDING ATTORNEYS SECOND PAGE HERE.SINCE SCOPE ITEMS THAT HAVE BEEN EXCLUDED FROM THIS PROPOSAL RIGHT IS ACOUSTICAL S AND SECOND FLOOR QUARTER AND THEN SOME OTHER ITEMS WHICH I COULD SEE THAT MIGHT BE A PRETTY SIGNIFICANT ITEM.
WHY DID THEY NOT INCLUDE THAT? WELL, WE WERE TRYING TO, THEY WERE INCLUDED ORIGINALLY.
GET THE NUMBER DOWN, ALL THE WERE INCLUDED AND UH, WE TRY TO KIND OF DOWN CAN, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT'S GONNA BE DONE BY ANOTHER COMPANY? POSSIBLY, OR IT WAS NOT SUPPOSED TO BE DONE TO START THAT.
THE EXCEPTIONS THAT WERE ON THERE, UH, AND I WANT THANK JACK FOR WORKING ON THIS STANDPOINT WAS THE ORIGINAL QUOTE THAT CAME IN WHEN WE WENT OUT FOR BIDS.
UH, HAD SOME DECENT SOME CLARIFICATIONS IN IT.
OF COURSE, THE PLANS, THE PLANS, THE BOOK WAS THIS THICK AND THE PLANS WERE THIS THICK.
AND IT'S NOT UNUSUAL FOR A CONTRACTOR ASSUME A LOT OF THINGS.
WELL, I'LL TELL YOU THE TRUTH.
OUR VALUE ENGINEERING MEETINGS THAT JACK AND I HAD WITH THE CONTRACTOR AND THE JUDGE WAS INVOLVED ALSO, WE REDUCED THE PRICE OF THIS CONTRACT BY 173,877 BUCKS.
AND SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE NEGOTIATED OUT OF IT OR DIDN'T NEGOTIATE OUT WAS THAT WHAT SAID THE ACOUSTICAL CEILING IN THE CORRIDOR.
WE NEVER INTENDED FOR THAT CORRIDOR TO HAVE ACOUSTICAL PANELS IN IT.
WE WERE GOING TO RESTORE IT TO THE ORIGINAL CONDITION OF THE 10 CEILINGS UP.
BUT IN THE PLANS AND SPECIFICATIONS IT INDICATE THAT NEEDED TO BE DONE.
AND SO WE TOLD EM THAT THAT WASN'T SUPPOSED TO BE IN THERE.
AND SO WE'RE GOING TO LEAVE THE ORIGINAL CEILING THAT'S THERE, BUT IT IS GONNA BE RESTORED THE ORIGINAL CEILING.
SO THIS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT, IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WE TOOK THAT, YOU KNOW, WE TOOK IT, IT WAS, IT WAS A CLARIFICATION TYPE THING ON THERE.
UH, I THINK THERE WAS LIKE A $3,000 BABY CHANGING STATION IN EACH BATHROOM.
I'M NOT TOO, WE DECIDED AS A EXECUTIVE TYPE DECISION THAT WE DON'T NEED TO SPEND FIVE OR 6,000 CHANGE DIAPER AND UPSTAIRS IN THIS BUILDING IF THEY CHANGE IT DOWNSTAIRS WOULD BE PACKED, WHATEVER.
BUT THERE WAS A LOT OF ITEMS IN THERE LIKE THAT, THAT WE KIND OF CLARIFIED STEP BY STEP THROUGH EACH INDIVIDUAL COST ON THIS PROJECT.
IT WAS PRETTY EXTENSIVE LIST OF THINGS TO DO.
AND UH, THE CONTRACTOR WAS VERY WILLING TO, UH, LISTEN TO A LOT OF THINGS THAT WE WANTED.
UH, WE DID COMMIT TO DO SOME TRASH HAUL OFF OUR OURSELF BECAUSE THEIR, THEIR TRASH HAUL OFF WAS PRETTY EXTENSIVE.
THEY WOULD HAVE TO RUN A, UH, DUMP TRUCK FOR TWO OR THREE MONTHS WHERE IT COME HERE AND HAUL OFF TRASH SEVERAL TIMES.
AND SO WE SUGGESTED IT, LET US DO THE HAULING OFF, WE CAN DO IT.
WE'LL HAVE RENT FOR THREE MONTHS NOW WE'VE GOT ONE SURELY WE CAN MAKE AVAILABLE FOR HALF A DAY OR SOMETHING.
ITEMS SUCH AS THAT WE NEGOTIATING DOWN AS TO WHOSE RESPONSIBILITY THAT IS.
AND THE SCOPE OF THE PROJECT WAS CLARIFIED TO GET THIS DOWN TO THE, UH, YOU KNOW, I SAY 175,000 SAVINGS, NOT SAVING $175,000.
DID I FIND THAT RIGHT, MR. SEBASTIAN? VERY VISUAL.
AND THIS WON'T SOLVE ALL OF OUR NEEDS FOR SURE, BUT IT WILL, UH, BASICALLY GIVE US, YOU KNOW, ANOTHER FOUR, 5,000 SQUARE FEET OF OFFICE SPACE UPSTAIRS HERE THAT'S GOING TO BE MAKE AVAILABLE FOR US OR THE OFFICES ALREADY IDENTIFIED OFFICER, OFFICER IDENTIFIED ON A PLAN.
BUT THAT, THAT'S, UH, THAT'S MORE OF A SCHEMATIC TYPE THING.
UH, WHETHER THAT OFFICE IS USED FOR, UH, SAY ENGINE HEALTHCARE OR WHETHER IT'S USED FOR HUMAN RESOURCES OR WHAT'S USED FOR, UH, TREASURY, THAT'S NOT RELEVANT RIGHT NOW, EXCEPT FOR SOME OF THEM WOULD REQUIRE SOME SPECIALIZED, UH, UH, IT STUFF THAT GEORGE WILL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR.
AND SOME OF 'EM WILL HAVE TO BE, WE'LL REQUIRE SOME PRIVACY.
AND FOR THE REST THERE'S AREAS THAT ARE IDENTIFIED, LARGE AREAS IDENTIFIED FOR PERSON, AGENT FOR AUDITOR, FOR TREASURER, BUT NOTHING SET.
GO AND ADD TO COMMISSIONER I THE MEETING AS TO WHO NEEDS WHAT TYPE OF AREA.
SO IT'S NOT LIKE COMMISSIONER MITCH, IT'S NOT SET IN STONE, BUT I THINK IT'S PRETTY GOOD, PRETTY GOOD PLAN.
I HAVE A QUESTION HERE ON PAGE TWO OF 15 AT THE BOTTOM, NUMBER 13, IT SAYS PAINT ENTIRE UNIT COMPLETE, INCLUDING DOORS
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INCLUDE THE DOORS, WALLS, MOLDING THE KITCHEN CEILING, ET CETERA, INCLUDING PREP.UH, SO AM I TAKING IT THAT FROM THIS, THAT THEY'RE GONNA REPAINT EVERYTHING THAT'S ALREADY BEEN REPAINTED THERE AND REFINISHED? I'M NOT BEEN REPAINTED THERE.
THERE'S BEEN SOME CLEANING OF MATERIAL UP, BUT NOTHING'S BEEN PAINTED OR FINISHED AS YET.
OH, I THOUGHT THAT WAS NEW PAINT UP THERE.
I JUST WENT UP THERE AND LOOKED AT IT THIS MORNING.
LOOKS LIKE, UNLESS THEY DID OVER THE WEEKEND,
NO, I MEAN, I MEAN IT LOOKS LIKE, IT LOOKS LIKE A BUNCH OF NEW PAINT UP THERE AND I DIDN'T, I DIDN'T KNOW IF THEY, IF SOME OF THE GUYS THAT WERE WORKING UP THERE LAST I'M NOT.
MAYBE THEY CLEANED IT PRETTY WELL.
WELL IF THEY DID, THEY DO A HECK OF A JOB.
OUR CREW DID GO FOR AND DO A CLEANING JOB ON IT.
IT SAVED A LOT OF TIME AND, UH, LABOR.
BUT MY PUT OUT, SEE, SEE IF IT NEEDS TO BE REP RETAINED, BUT I MEAN, AND AND JUST SO YOU KNOW, THIS BEING A JOB OR CONTRACT, THESE ITEMS ARE LISTED SO ANYTHING YOU CAN TAKE OUT ANYTHING DURING, BACK TO THE REFINISHING OF, OF THE CEILINGS, OF THE ANTIQUE TILES THAT ARE UP THERE.
UH, IS THAT JUST GONNA BE DONE IN THE HALL? JUST GONNA LEAVE THEM IN THE HALL OR IN ALL THOSE OFFICES? IS THAT GONNA BE JUST IN THE HALLWAY? THE OFFICES WILL HAVE TO HAVE A DROP CEILING CRYSTAL SITTING IN THOSE BECAUSE THE SO ACCOMMO, THE LIGHTS, AIR CONDITIONING DUCT, THE ORIGINAL CORRIDOR ORDER LOOK HISTORICALLY ACCURATE RIGHT AS IT DID BUILDING BUILT.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? DID WE HAVE MORE THAN ONE COMPANY? YES.
IT'S UH, HOW DO THEY COMPARE? WELL, WE, UH, AND, AND JUST, JUST SO YOU COMMISSIONER THIS, THIS BEING A JOB OR CONTRACT? UH, THEY'RE ON THE CO-OP, UH, SERVICES HAVE ALREADY BEEN BID, BUT WE CHOSE TO, EVEN THOUGH IT ALREADY BEEN BID, WE REACH OUT TO COMPANIES TO GET ARE WITH COMPANY BACKGROUND.
AND WHAT I LIKE ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR, UH, CONTRACT IS, UH, IT'S THE
SHOW ME, I HADN'T HAD A CHANCE TO STUDY THIS, UH, REAL GOOD, BUT SHOW ME WHERE THEY, THEY'RE GONNA FIX THAT HUMP IN THAT FLOOR UP THERE.
THAT'S A UH, THAT'S UNDER $25,000 IN THERE FOR TO FIX THAT DOOR.
OKAY, SO THAT'S FIRST AT THE FRONT? YES.
AND THOSE ALLOWANCE ITEMS, IF THEY CAN GET IT DONE FOR $15,000, WE SAVE 10,000.
IF IT'S GONNA COST 'EM $30,000 ON ANOTHER PATH, IT'S AN UNKNOWN, BUT WE BUILT LIKE 25,000 MORE THAN ENOUGH MONEY TAKE CARE OF THAT.
SO HOPEFULLY IT'S ON THE SAVINGS PART.
SAME THING ON THAT FOUR DRAIN.
THERE MAY BE AN ALTERNATIVE METHOD THAT'S THROUGH THE ELEVATOR, RIGHT? IT MAY BE MUCH CHEAPER.
I CAN ASSURE THAT PART WILL BE MUCH CHEAPER.
AND THAT'S, THAT WAS MY NEXT QUESTION ABOUT THE ELEVATOR.
IS IT, UH, IS THAT NUMBER 14 THERE ON PAGE 1 0 1 UNDER CONVEYING SYSTEM? WHAT'S THE QUESTION? UH, IS THIS THE ELEVATOR UNDER CONVEYING SYSTEMS? YES.
IS IT STATED IN MORE DETAIL ON ANOTHER PAGE? SOMEWHERE ON THE ELEVATOR? YEAH.
UH, IT'S ON, IT'LL BE ON THE PLANS AND THE SPECIFICATIONS.
I THOUGHT I SAW SOMETHING ABOUT 500 POUND CAPACITY LIFT.
YEAH, CAPACITY LIFT SOMEWHERE.
WE HAVE A PLANT ARE THE EXISTING STAIRS THAT'S GOING UP THERE NOW.
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THAT'S GONNA BE A BACKUP.AND THE ELEVATORS, IS IT GONNA BE WHERE WE TALKED ABOUT BEFORE IN WHERE THE ORIGINAL STAIRCASE WAS, WHERE THE RAILS USED TO GO DOWN, YOU KNOW, AND CUT OFF? IT'S GONNA BE OTHER WORDS.
IT'LL BE RIGHT THERE WHERE IT GOES DOWN.
IT'S GONNA BE JUST TO THE SIDE OF THAT ACTUALLY.
THAT'S WHERE THEY'RE GONNA PUT FAIRWAY, WHERE THE OLD FAIRWAYS CLOSE UP.
THAT'S WHERE THEY GONNA SO WHERE WERE THEY HERE COME UP STAIRS, FLOOR LOCATION WE DISCUSSED BEFORE.
I'M THINKING HERE IF YOU'RE THINKING RIGHT WHERE UH, CAROL USED TO SEE IT.
THAT'S WHERE THE ELEVATOR'S GOING.
AND WHAT ABOUT THE, UH, LET'S SEE, CONTINUOUS BALDING, SEMI CIRCUIT SKYLIGHT, DOUBLE BLADE TO EIGHT INCH WIDE.
IS THAT FOR THE, UH, I DUNNO WHAT YOU CALL IT, BUT YEAH, THE, THE THE ORIGINAL SKYLIGHT THAT WAS THERE.
YEAH, THE ORIGINAL SKYLIGHT THAT WAS UP THERE.
LIKE IT LIKE IT IS AND JUST REDONE AND I DON'T THINK WE'RE PUTTING ANY MONEY IN THAT.
SEE THE ORIGINAL DESIGN IN THIS BUILDING WAS, THERE'S A GLASS SKYLIGHT THERE LIKE THIS.
IT'S BEEN COVERED UP AND, AND WATERPROOF IN THIS BUILDING.
IT WAS, UH, PROBABLY URETHANE COMPLETELY OVER THE TOP OF THE BUILDING AND OVER THE TOP OF THE GLASS.
THERE'S PROBABLY THIS MUCH FOAM ON TOP OF THAT.
THAT'S GOING TO STAY UP THERE TO KEEP IT LEAKING.
SO WHAT I'M HOPING THAT WE CAN GO IN THERE AND JUST KIND OF CLEAN UP THE INSIDE PART ON IT AND PAINT IT.
OH, BUT YOU'RE GONNA LEAVE THE, YOU'RE GONNA LEAVE THE ORIGINAL WHERE IT, WHERE IT'S GOT THE MAKE IT OR THE SKYLIGHT, THE PYRAMID THING, KIND OF THE CONCEPT.
THE WHOLE WHOLE PROGRAM WAS TO MAKE THE CORRIDOR AS HISTORICALLY ACCURATE.
AND OF COURSE ALL THE OFFICERS LEFT AND RIGHT WILL BE MODERNIZED.
SO WE'LL HAVE A WOOD FLOOR AND THE CORRIDOR, WE'LL HAVE THE 10 CEILINGS IN TOP OF IT.
THE DOORS WILL BE THE OLD, OLD FASHIONED DOORS WITH THE TRANS ABOVE IT.
UH, MORE THAN LIKELY IT'S GOING TO HAVE, UH, CEILING PANEL OF SCHOOLHOUSE LIGHT ON THE BOTTOM OF IT GOING DOWN THROUGH THE CORRIDOR.
YOU'LL HAVE TO HAVE SOME AIR CONDITIONING DUCTS, I BELIEVE GOING ACROSS IT.
BUT THEY'LL BE TYPICALLY WHAT YOU DO IN A, UH, UH, ON A RESTAURANT WHERE THERE'S SPIRAL DUCT, BUT THEY'RE PAINTED.
AND THAT BE, SO THAT WILL BE A LITTLE MODERN LOOKING, BUT IT'LL BE KIND OF DISGUISED.
UM, I JUST, WHEN I WAS UP THERE WALKING AROUND WHILE GOD, I KNEW WE WERE GONNA HAVE TO PUT DROP SEALANTS IN THE OFFICES, BUT, UH, OF COURSE, UH, YOU KNOW, AND I'M, I HATE TO COVER UP ALL THAT ANTIQUE STUFF UP THERE THAT'S, THAT'S ON THE CEILING.
WOULD THAT BE COOLED DOWN AND POSSIBLY, UH, POSSIBLY WE CAN SELL THAT.
THAT STUFF'S PRETTY PRETTY DIRTY.
WE, IF WE TAKE IT DOWN OUR OURSELF, IT'S NOT IN, IT'S NOT IN THE PLAN TO, TO DEMOLISH THAT AND REMOVE IT.
YEAH, WELL THAT STUFF, YOU KNOW, SOME OF IT, THE IN BETWEEN THERE HAS GOT THAT SAME SIGNAL ON.
I JUST WONDER WE COVERED THAT.
I JUST OF COURSE WE THE MANPOWER.
YES, ACTUALLY WE HAVE, WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN THEY TO DO THIS WITH, BUT WE NEED TO HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE IN THERE BECAUSE THE REMODEL JOB NOW THERE'S, YOU GOTTA HAVE SOME CONTINGENCY IN THERE, UH, FOR SOMETHING THAT'S GONNA HAPPEN.
YOU'RE NOT AWARE OF WHAT'S GOING HAPPEN.
UH, THAT AGAIN, THE CONCEPT WAS WE'RE NOT GONNA SPEND ANY MORE THAN WE'VE GOT ALLOCATED FOR THAT TIME.
AND THAT PARTICULAR FUNDING CAN BE ONLY BE USED FORMAT LIKE THAT COURTHOUSE.
IS THAT CORRECT? YOUR HONOR, I'M LOOKING FOR A MOTION THEN TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER SIGNING CONTRACT WITH ED WILSON, UH, AFTER REVIEW BY ATTORNEYS PENDING REVIEW OF ATTORNEYS,
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AND I'LL MAKE THE MOTION SECOND.DID YOU GET THAT? AND I MADE THE MOTION
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE.
A OPPOSED? THANK YOU GENTLEMEN.
THIS WAS A, A PRETTY LONG OR BILL THAT JACK WENT THROUGH TO GET THIS, THIS PART DONE.
JUDGE JACK, I DO APPRECIATE THAT.
EVEN WITH THE, YOUR HONOR, I REMEMBER ALSO I WOULD DO THAT THEN WE'RE MOVE I NUMBER 13, DISCUSS AWARDING BID.
14 DASH OH TWO ANNUAL CONTRACT, VARIOUS GROWTH MATERIALS.
THIS IS THE, UH, DO YOU REMEMBER THE SECOND ATTEMPT TO GET THE, UH, PORTION OF THIS, UH, AWARDED REBID? AND WE DO HAVE ALL THE PRODUCTS, UH, COVERED.
THE ONE VENDOR THAT, UH, DID ANSWER, ANSWER I THINK LOOKS PRETTY GOOD.
UH, LIKE ALWAYS PRIMARY, SECONDARY AND OFFICE.
AND IT'S KIND OF HARD FOR YOU TO DETERMINE WHICH SURE IT IS BETTER FOR YOU GUYS.
ONE VENDOR MAY BE LOWER AND PRICE, BUT IT'S FURTHER FROM YOUR PRECINCT HAVE THE FLEXIBILITY TO ALLOWS THAT.
SO WE'RE REALLY AWARDING ALL, ALL PRODUCTS BASED ON PRIMARY, SECONDARY, ALTERNATE WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE, UH, ROCKS FROM OKLAHOMA ON THE, UH, LEHIGH HEON SECOND PAGE RIGHT ABOVE THE THREE CRUSH CONCRETE.
WE HAVE A 3 0 2 THAT IS A TALKING ROCK FROM THE RAIL LOCATION.
IS THAT RIGHT? I WAS NOT AWARE OF THAT.
UH, YOU KNOW THEY SENT THAT IN.
I THINK THEY MENTIONED THEY WERE DID THAT, IS THAT A DROP? NO, IT'S NOT.
IS THAT 3 0 2? IS THAT A, AS FAR AS I KNOW, GRADE FOUR IS THE CLASSIFICATION.
NOW THAT MIGHT BE THEIR, THEIR ITEM ITEM.
WHAT I WAS ASKING IS THOUGH, IS WHERE IS, WHERE IS THAT AND WHAT DID THEY GIVE YOU A PRICE ON IT? THAT'S NOT THE COLUMN DIRECTED UNDER IS IT? IT'S OH, THAT IS, YES SIR.
SO THEY, THEY DID NOT BID THE STANDARD CONCRETE.
SO WE SHOULD MARK OUT BETWEEN CRUSHED CONCRETE.
WELL, UH, YOU WANT GET IT FROM BIG CITY.
YOU HAVE A BIG CITY IS A LOW BID ON THE ITEM AND THEN PACKAGE FURTHER DISCUSSION.
SO THIS GRAY FOUR, THIS GRAY FOUR MODIFIED, UH, IS THAT, IS THAT THE UH, MANMADE NO LIMESTONE THAT WE CAN PICK UP AT THE NEW RAIL YARD? OKAY.
AND YOU, YOU KNOW, SO YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO BUY THAT IS GOOD.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL FAVOR, AYE.
A ALONG DISCUSS, CONSIDER FOUR PROJECT FOR ROAD, THE CITY OF COUNTRY ROAD 2 7 9 SOUTHWEST CANDY LANE ON NORTH SIDE, 600 FEET COUNTY ROAD 2 7 9 ANGELINA ROAD, COUNTY ROAD 2 7 9 AND CANDY LANE.
AND UH, WE HAVE INTER LOCAL AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY OF POST OAK BEND AND ALL THESE ARE, UH, LITTLE PROJECTS THAT THEY NEED TO, UH, FIX DRAINS WITH.
UH, EACH ONE OF THEM IS, IS LIFTED THERE.
SOME OF THEM ARE VERY SMALL, NONE MUCH, BUT USUALLY GO BY THE ESTIMATED MACHINE WORK'S GONNA TAKE TO DO THAT.
AND, UH, IT HAS BEEN APPROVED BY THE MAYOR POST.
SO, UH, I MAKE THE MOTION WE APPROVE THEIR, UH, PROJECT.
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IS THERE A SECOND? MOTION? ROSA.ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
A, NOW WE GET TO THE FUN PART.
DISCUSSION, POTENTIAL ACTION REGARDING THE CREATION OF WARNER MOORE COUNTY ENERGY TRANSPORTATION MANAGEMENT.
C AS AUTHORIZED BY LAW TO PROMOTE WARNER MOORE INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECT.
BE LOCATED IN THE COUNTY TO BE FUNDED BY THE CS, INCLUDING THE POTENTIAL BOUNDARIES AND REQUIREMENTS OF A COUNTY INTERVIEW TRANSPORTATION REINVESTMENT ZONE C 30 AS AUTHORIZED BY 2.2 2.107.
ONE OF TRANSPORTATION CODE APPOINTMENT OF THE ADVISORY BOARD.
MAKE THE JUDGE PUT THAT ON THE AGENDA.
AND HE TOOK THIS IS, UH, THIS IS TO ALLOWED TO, TO APPLY FOR A STATE GRANT, A NEW FUNDING MECHANISM THAT'S BROUGHT BACK DOWN BY LEGISLATURE.
I BELIEVE THEY ALLOCATED $225 MILLION ACROSS THE STATE, UH, TO HELP COUNTIES REPAIR ROAD DAMAGE THAT WAS DONE BY OIL AND GAS BOOM.
THAT STATE IS EXPERIENCING RIGHT NOW.
WE'RE EXPERIENCING SOME OF IT.
OURS IS NOT REALLY A BOOM, BUT WE'RE, WE'RE EXPERIENCING A LOT OF DAMAGES ANYWAY.
THE MONEY IS ALLOCATED COMPLETE TO IT.
IT'S AVAILABLE FOR ALL 254 COUNTIES.
IT APPEARS THAT, UH, COMPTON COUNTY COULD BE ELIGIBLE ON REASONABLE, UH, 235,000 MAYBE WHAT ABOUT TWO $35,000 IN GRANT MONEY, BUT ORDER TO GET THE GRANT MONEY UP TO PROGRESS TO A COUPLE HOOPS, WHICH THEY'RE IDENTIFIED RIGHT HERE.
IDENTIFYING THE ZONE, WHICH WE PRELIMINARY DID AT AT THE WORKSHOP WITH THE, UH, APPRAISAL DISTRICT APPOINTING THE BOARD, WHICH WE'RE GONNA DO HERE IN JUST A MINUTE.
AND THAT'LL GET US DOWN THE ABOVE.
WE'LL HAVE TO HAVE DOCUMENTATION WE HAVE TO HAVE WITH THE STATE BEFORE WE ACTUALLY GET ANY MONEY.
BUT IF WE DON'T DO THIS, WE WILL NOT BE TO GET ANY MONEY.
I THINK, UH, IRV COUNTY SAID THAT THEY'LL GIVE PEOPLE EXTRA TIME TO GET ALL THEIR PAPERWORK DEADLINE MARCH OR APRIL 4TH.
WELL, THE DEADLINE HASN'T BEEN EXTENDED.
DEADLINE IS PROBABLY GONNA BE EXTENDED, BUT THE LAWYERS ARE TELLING US THAT IF YOU DON'T PLAN ON IT, NOT BEEN EXTENDED AND THEY, IF THEY DON'T EXTEND IT, YOU'RE LEFT OUT IN COURT.
THERE'S PROBABLY A 99% CHANCE THEY'LL EXTEND IT FOR ANOTHER MONTH, BUT THAT'S NOT DONE AS YET.
SO WE DON'T WANT, WE'LL BE PREPARED.
I BELIEVE THAT WE'RE, WE'VE DONE OUR DUE DILIGENCE ON AND ALL YOU GUYS HAVE TO SEE WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE SO WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T GET LEFT BEHIND.
AND WE'RE ANTICIPATING THAT, UH, A LOT OF COUNTIES ARE NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO DO THIS OR NOT WANTING TO DO THIS OR NOT BE ABLE TO MAKE THEIR MATCH.
AND SO ANY OF THE MONEY THAT'S NOT, THAT'S NOT ANY OF THE $225 MILLION TO ALLOCATED TO THE COUNTY THAT'S NOT USED WILL BE REALLOCATED TO THE COUNTIES THAT APPLY.
AND WE'RE ANTICIPATING THERE'S A REAL GOOD CHANCE THAT WE'LL GET, YOU KNOW, MORE THAN THE 225,000 BUCKS.
SO WE'RE, WE'RE IN IN OUR TIMELY FASHION FOR EVERY ASPECT OF THIS.
THIS IS A BRAND NEW THING, BRAND NEW BALL GAME FOR EVERYBODY TO DO.
UH, THE LEGISLATURE GAVE YOU ABOUT 30 DAYS TO GET IT DONE THEN.
SO WE'RE PROBABLY GONNA MAKE SOME MISTAKES, BUT I THINK THAT, UH, THE LAW FIRM THAT WE RETAINED, UH, OUT OF AUSTIN THAT WILL HELP US CORRECT OUR MISTAKE BEFORE THEY BECOME PAL MISTAKES.
SO I I BELIEVE WE'RE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE DOING THE RIGHT THING.
SO TODAY WE NEED TO, UM, PRESENT OUR APPOINTMENTS TO THIS BOARD ADVISORY BOARD, UM, AND OUR, THE CREATION OF THE ZONE, I THINK.
WOULD THAT BE THE, THE NUMBER ONE PRIORITY? YES SIR.
AND WE HAVE, WE IDENTIFIED THAT IN THE WORKSHOP? YES.
EXHIBIT, IT'S EXHIBIT D IN YOUR PAPERWORK HERE IT IS.
UH, THIS THING'S VERY DIFFICULT TO UNDERSTAND.
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OFFICIAL PROPERTY IN PRECINCT THREE THAT HAS A CURRENT OIL AND GAS PRODUCTION ON THE, ONE OF THE PROJECTS HAS TO BE DONE IN AN AREA THAT HAS OIL AND GAS PRODUCTIVITY ACTIVITY ON, UH, THE REST OF THE MONEY CAN BE USED ANYWHERE IN THE COUNTY ON ANY ROAD HAS BEEN DAMAGED BY OIL AND GAS INDUSTRY, WHICH IN THEORY EVERY ROAD WITHIN THE COUNTY QUALIFY FOR THAT BECAUSE SOMEWHERE THERE WAS A TRUCK HAULING SOMETHING THAT BELONGED TO AN OIL FIELD COMPANY THAT CAME UP DOWN OUR ROADS.BUT THIS, THIS MEETS OUR REQUIREMENTS AS EXHIBIT D WOULD BE OUR REQUIREMENT OF CREATING DESIGN.
SIR ALL YOU'RE TAKING A MOTION AND YOU CORRECT ME IF I'M DOING THIS WRONG, TO, UH, CREATE THE COUNTY ENERGY TRANSPORTATION RESISTANCE REINVESTMENT ZONE AS IDENTIFIED IN EXHIBIT D
COMMISSIONER, I THOUGHT YOU MADE THE MOTION.
COMM COMMISSIONER ICK MADE THE MOTION.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THE CREATION OF THE ZONE? WE'VE GOT THAT ONE.
SECONDLY, WE NEED TO, UH, DO THE APPOINTMENT OF THE ADVISORY BOARD.
I BELIEVE MR. STATUTE SAID THE ADVISORY BOARD HAD TO HAVE AT LEAST FIVE MEMBERS ON IT THAT ARE KNOWLEDGEABLE OF THE OIL AND GAS INDUSTRY.
WE DISCUSSED THIS IN A WORKSHOP AND I THINK EVERYBODY'S PREPARED TO GET AT LEAST FIVE.
THE GENTLEMAN I SPOKE TO ABOUT A APPOINT TO THE BOARD, HE WANTED ME TO EXPLAIN A LITTLE MORE TO HIM ABOUT IT.
HE'S BEEN OUT TOWN ALL WEEKEND, SUPPOSED TO BACK RIGHT AFTER 10.
I SHOULD KNOW ABOUT CLOSING DOWN TODAY.
'CAUSE I THINK WE HAVE TO GET THE BOARD APPOINTED AND IF HE WAS TO, UH, DECLINE OR WHATEVER, I GUESS WE REPOINT SOMEBODY.
BUT I THINK THE REQUIREMENT IS WE HAVE TO APPOINT THE BOARD.
IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT, YES.
COMMISSIONER, SAME LIKE TO APPOINT PATRICIA SMITH, WHICH IS UH, I BELIEVE A PROPERTY OWNER RIGHT ADJACENT TO THE, THE PROPERTY UP THERE.
COMMISSIONER ROSA WANTED TO POINT CAROL SHIELDS AND HAROLD IS A, UH, AN ENGINEER, VERY KNOWLEDGEABLE IN OIL AND GAS INDUSTRY.
UH, I TALKED TO OR WANTED APPOINT DOUG LANE FROM, BECAUSE HE OWNS PROPERTY RIGHT ADJACENT TO THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY.
THE JUDGE WANTED TO APPOINT THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY.
I'D LIKE TO POINT LARRY T IS A LOT OF MANY YEARS EXPERIENCE NOT ONLY IN PRODUCING ALL PROPERTIES.
DID YOU GET THOSE NAMES? IS THERE A MOTION TO APPOINT THESE FIVE INDIVIDUALS TO THE BOARD? SO MADE SECOND.
MOTION MADE DR. MANNING SECOND WITH DR.
ANY DISCUSSION ON FAVOR SAY AYE.
WHAT ELSE? I THINK THERE'S TWO MORE THINGS ACTUALLY.
I THINK WE NEED TO ESTABLISH AN ADD VAL TAX INCREMENT ACCOUNT FOR THE ZONE AND THEN WE NEED TO ESTABLISH THE, UH, I I GUESS THE TAX BASE YEAR OF THE ZONE AS WELL, WHICH WOULD BE 2014 SINCE THAT'S THE YEAR THAT WE'RE PUTTING THE ORDER IN THE ZONE.
WAS WAS THE TAX BASE YEAR SUPPOSED TO BE 2013? NO, IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE THE YEAR THAT THE ACTUAL ORDER TO, TO ESTABLISH THE ZONING IS PUT IN PLACE.
SO IN 2014, ALL THE PROMOTION ESTABLISH THE, UH, EVALUATION YEAR.
WHAT, WHAT'S THE CORRECT TERMINOLOGY? NAMES? UH, THE, JUST A SECOND.
LEMME LOOK THROUGH THIS REAL QUICK.
I THINK IT'S JUST CALLED THE TAX BASE HERE.
AND THEN ESTABLISHING THE, THE
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AVALARA TAX INCREMENT ACCOUNT FOR THE ZONE.YEAH, WHAT HE SAID TAXPAYER, THE 24 PLAN
THIS 24 COMMISSIONER SAY MAKES A MOTION.
SECOND COMMISSIONER MAY A MOTION.
AND THE INCREMENT, UH, THIS IS, THIS IS WORKS JUST LIKE A TAX, UH, LIKE A TIP.
THE INCREASE IN VALUE THAT COMES OFF THE PROPERTY IN FUTURE YEARS GOES INTO A FUND TO UH, SUPPORT THE CONSTRUCTION RECONSTRUCTION OF ROADS THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY AS LONG AS WE COMPLETE A PROJECT WITHIN THE ZONE.
SO WHAT DO WE NEED TO DO, JAMES, TO IT'S A HUNDRED PERCENT OF THE INCREASED VALUE.
IT'S NOT LIKE A TIP WHERE WE SAY WE CAN DO 25, 50 OR 75 OR A HUNDRED.
I BELIEVE IT'S, I DON'T BELIEVE THEY GIVE US THAT OPTION.
I BELIEVE IT'S ALL THE VALUES INCREASE VALUE.
THAT THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING AS WELL.
SO DO WE NEED A MOTION TO YES, A MOTION JUST TO ESTABLISH THE, THE THE ACCOUNT FOR THE UH, FOR THE, FOR THEUM TAX TO ESTABLISH THE ACCOUNT? YEAH, JUST TO ESTABLISH THE ACCOUNT.
WE WILL CREATE IT THAT SOUND LIKE SOMETHING THAT UH, KAREN COULD HANDLE ENFORCEMENT.
SO, UH, ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO CREATE AN ACCOUNT FOR THE CERS.
SO MAY ANCE COMMISSIONER, MAD SECOND COMMISSIONER ZA.
AND THIS ZONE CAN BE ONCE, ONCE THE ORIGINAL PROJECT HAD BEEN COMPLETED, THE ZONE CAN DISSOLVE AND SO WE WON'T HAVE TO KEEP UP THIS ANYMORE AFTER THAT.
IN LOT OF COUNTIES YOU WANT TO KEEP IT IN PLACE BECAUSE IT COULD BE A FLOODING MECHANISM FOR THOSE THAT HAVE A LOT OIL AND GAS THINGS INCREASING IN BAY THAT COULD COME BACK AND HELP OFFSET SOME ROAD.
BRIDGE COUNTY IS NOT GONNA BE IN THAT TIGHT POSITION.
SO I ANTICIPATE THAT, YOU KNOW, ONCE WE GET OUR ORIGINAL GRANT MONEY DONE, WE'LL DISSOLVE OF WHICH YOU MIGHT PASS THAT ON TO MR T.
THAT THIS, THIS MAY BE A SHORTLIVED PROJECT, HOWEVER, IT'S GONNA BE SOMETHING THAT IN THE FUTURE IT'S A GOOD EXERCISE TO GO THROUGH BECAUSE THIS IS GONNA BE A FUNDING MECHANISM THAT THE STATE'S GONNA PUT DOWN ON US FOR PRETTY MUCH A LOT OF THINGS WE'RE GONNA TRY TO DO IN THE FUTURE.
AND SO ONCE WE GET IT FIGURED OUT, WE'LL BE ABLE TO DO IT.
THEY'RE GONNA STRONGLY ENCOURAGE THAT.
JAMES, DID WE SATISFY EVERYTHING ABOUT IN 15? I I I THINK WE DO.
OKAY, NINE NUMBER 16, DISCUSS AND PROTECTION REGARDING SET BILL 1747 PRIORITIZED PROJECT LIST FOR THE COUNTY TRANSPORTATION INVESTMENT FUND GRANT PROGRAM.
I DON'T THINK, MY GUESS IS WE'RE PROBABLY NOT QUITE READY TO CREATE A PRIORITY LIST.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU PUT LIST OF THE PROJECTS THAT YOU MIGHT WANT TO HAVE DONE IN YOUR, YOUR AREA, YOUR ROAD REPORT GONNA KIND OF INDICATE WHAT PROJECTS YOU THINK WHAT GOING NEED TO BE WORKED ON.
WE'LL BE DETERMINED BY THE COURT.
AND THE REASON I SAY I'M NOT TOO SURE WE WANT TO PROGRESS FOR THAT IS RIGHT NOW DON'T THINK WE'VE PULLED UP ENOUGH RESEARCH IN IT.
AND I THINK THE JUDGE WANTED BE INVOLVED IN THOSE CONVERSATIONS SO IT COULD BE EQUALLY DISTRIBUTED AROUND THE COUNTY.
I SAY EQUALLY SOMEWHAT EQUITABLE ACROSS THE BOARD.
IS THAT THAT'S THE MAJOR, LIKE THE MAJOR HIGHWAY PROJECTS? NO, THIS, NO, THIS IS THE MONEY THAT'S GONNA COME FROM THIS GRANT PROGRAM.
THE $235,000 FOR THE PRIORITY LIST NOW.
SO NUMBER ONE ON THE PRIORITY IS GONNA BE THE ROAD JUST IN THE ZONE.
YOU KNOW, THAT BE THE NUMBER ONE PRIORITY THAT HAS TO BE BECAUSE IT HAS TO BE COMPLETED BEFORE YOU DO ANY OTHER PROJECTS.
AFTER THAT IT CAN BE DIVIDED OUT.
DOES THIS HAVE TO BE, UH, PASSED TODAY? TODAY IN ORDER TO MEET OUR REQUIREMENTS? I THINK THIS WAS PUT ON THERE BY THE OUTSIDE LAW FIRM JUST IN CASE WE WANNA DO THAT.
WOULD THAT BE A CORRECT ASSUMPTION TO YES, THIS DOES NOT HAVE TO BE DONE RIGHT NOW.
I SAID THINK IT'S A LITTLE PRELIMINARY.
THERE'S SOMETHING YOU GOING START THINKING ABOUT AND THIS IS THE PROJECT, YOU KNOW, THE PRIORITY LIST THAT YOU WANT TO USE RIGHT HERE ON THERE.
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COST GOES, YOU KNOW, I BELIEVE WE ALL GOT UH, AN ATTACHMENT FROM ALLISON AND BASS AS TO HOW TO DO THIS.PUT YOUR COSTS, BUT YOUR COSTS, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO BE AUDITED DOWN THE ROAD SO YOU, WHATEVER YOU PUT ON HER, MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE GONNA SPEND THAT MONEY FOR THAT VERIFIED.
IT'S GOTTA BE, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN'T SAY YOU GONNA SPEND A MILLION ON ASPHALT AND SPEND $20,000 ON IT, EXPECT GET REIMBURSED.
YOU WHEN YOU SPEND 20,000, YOU'RE GONNA GET 20,000 BACK AND THAT'S IT.
SO IT NEEDS TO BE, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF THOUGHT HAS TO BE PUT INTO WHERE IT NEEDS TO BE, HOW MUCH IT'S GOING TO COST.
AND I DON'T KNOW IF WE FLIP A COIN TO SEE WHO'S TWO, THREE AND FOUR ON THE PRIORITY LIST OR HOW WE DO THAT.
THAT'S, I SEE, I THINK THAT'S A PRETTY PRELIMINARY DISCUSSION RIGHT NOW.
WE PROBABLY NEED A WORKSHOP WITH THE COMMITTEE.
SOME INPUT THEY HAVE, I THINK THEY'LL HAVE THE INPUT IN MAYBE THE ACTUAL ZONE, THE COMMITTEES.
MY GUESS IS I HAVEN'T SEEN ANY DUTIES OF THE COMMITTEE, RIGHT? THERE'S NOT THESE DUTIES OF THE COMMITTEES YET.
LIKE I SAID, IT'S A BRAND NEW THING SO IT'S A, WE'RE JUST FOLLOWING THE STEP THAT'VE GOT, I DON'T THINK WE REQUIRE A LOT OF THESE PEOPLE ON THE COMMITTEE, WHICH IS, WHICH IS GOOD.
IT'S GOOD THEY VOLUNTEER TO DO THIS, BUT I I DON'T THINK THEY'RE GONNA TAKE A LOT OF THEIR TIME UNLESS WE CONTINUE ON WITH THE PROGRAM.
SO I'M GOING TO MOVE THAT THE TABLE NUMBER 16, THE PRIORITIZED PROJECT LIST THIS TIME AND WE'LL I'LL GET AS TALK TO JUDGE WOOD ABOUT SETTING UP WORKSHOPS AND WE DISCUSS HOW WON'T DO THAT.
THAT'S THE KIND OF QUESTION IT'S GONNA BE ASKED.
THAT'S KIND OF QUESTIONS GONNA BE, HAVE THAT WORKSHOP.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
OKAY NOW AS PART OF THIS SAME PROGRAM, WE HAVE DISCUSSED AND CONSIDERATION OF ACCEPTING THE ANNUAL ROAD REPORTS FOR FILING IN THE MINUTES OF THE COMMISSION COURT.
AND WE WANT TO FILE A ROAD REPORT FOR THIS BUDGET YEAR 20 13 20 14 WITH THE GRAND JURY JACKIE AND JUNE OF LAST YEAR.
AS PART BY LAW WE NEED TO FILE AN AMENDED ROAD REPORT THAT WILL INDICATE THAT THE CAUSE OF THE DAMAGES TO THE ROAD REPORT, BECAUSE I CAN'T SAY DEGRADATION, HOWEVER YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO SAY THAT
SO I BELIEVE THAT FORM THAT HAVEN'T HEARD BACK FROM THAT, BUT YOU KNOW, UH, I SENT MINE DOWN THERE TO THE LAW FIRM 10 DAYS AGO TO GET THEIR COMMENTS AND WHETHER THAT WAS, UH, ACCEPTABLE OR NOT.
AND UH, ASSUMING THAT WE HAVE EVERYTHING BACK THAT IT IS ACCEPTABLE.
HOWEVER, I SAID SINCE THEY'VE GOT THIS FEBRUARY 7TH OF THE 14TH TIMEFRAME, WE'VE GOT TO THE SEVEN 14TH TO MEET THEIR REQUIREMENTS AND THEN TO EXTENDED, LIKE SAYING SAYS TO MARCH, WE'VE GOT SOME MORE TIME, BUT JUST IN CASE WE WANT TO TURN SOMETHING IN RIGHT NOW.
AND I BELIEVE WE HAVE ONE, TWO, AND THREE AND THEY HAVE PRECINCT FOUR.
ALRIGHT, THIS YOUR TIRE, THAT'S ALL BE, I THOUGHT IT WAS JUST THE ONES THAT HAD DAMAGE.
NO, SEE IT, IT'S REAL SIMILAR TO THE ROAD REPORTS YOU HAD BEFORE.
AS I SAID, THE ONES THAT HAD DAMAGE, YOU HAD TO LIST WHAT THE DAMAGES WERE.
OKAY? BUT, BUT YOU CAN, YOU COULD USE THIS TO, YOU CAN ATTACH THIS TO YOUR PREVIOUS ROAD REPORT.
ALRIGHT, SO HAS EVERYBODY GOT ANGIE? UH, I OR SOMEBODY NEEDS TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE ACCEPT THE ANNUAL AMENDED REPORT.
MADE BY MOTION, MADE BY COMMISSIONER MAN.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.
HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THE LINE
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TRANSFER THAT I CAN, THIS GRAND JURY? YES SIR.WHAT DID WE DO? JUST WE PUT MONEY, INJECT MONEY INTO THE ACCOUNT OF 64 ACCOUNT.
CAN YOU CLARIFY? YEAH, I WAS GONNA EXPLAIN THAT.
UM, PRIOR TO THE NEW SOFTWARE PAYROLL CLERK WAS ACTUALLY PREPARING HEADED JURY CHECKS AND RUNNING IT THROUGH PAYROLL AND IT SHOULDN'T BE.
IT IS THE ONLY WAY THEY COULD BE DONE.
UH, THE OTHER SIDE WAS THE DISTRICT CLERK WAS CUTTING HER OWN CHECKS FOR GRAND JURIES AND I, UH, WENT AND TALKED TO THEM AND WE DECIDED THAT THEY WOULD AGREE THAT WE CUT ALL THE CHECKS BECAUSE THAT'S THE WAY IT SHOULD BE.
AND UM, WE, MR. COUNTRYMAN TALKED TO HIM ABOUT IT AND HE AGREED THAT WE OPEN A SEPARATE BANK ACCOUNT JUST FOR JURY CHECKS BECAUSE WHEN WE WRITE JURY CHECKS, THERE'S A LOT OF $10 CHECKS THAT ARE WRITTEN AND IT FILLS UP THE GENERAL FUND TO THE MAX OF PAGES AND PAGES OF $10 CHECKS.
AND WE WANTED TO MOVE THAT MONEY TO A SEPARATE BANK ACCOUNT AND THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE DONE.
AND IT WAS ALREADY BUDGETED IN THE, IN THE GENERAL FUND.
SO I WANTED TO MOVE IT OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND AND PUT IT IN A NEW FUND CALLED FUND 80.
AND THAT'S WHERE THE 64 5 IS ONE.
IF YOU'LL LOOK AT THAT NEXT PAGE THAT WAS EMAILED TO YOU, IT'LL SHOW YOU ESTABLISHED NO LEFT PAGE THAT WE'RE ESTABLISHING A AND THAT WAS WHAT THAT WAS FOR.
WELL DIDN'T UNDERSTAND PAYROLL CLERK, PAYROLL SYSTEM.
IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN DONE THROUGH AN AP SYSTEM, BUT THAT SYSTEM WOULDN'T ALLOW IT THE WAY IT HAD BEEN DONE.
SO WE GOT NEW SOFTWARE WITH TW AND THAT'S WHAT WE WANNA DO.
I GUESS WENT THE PAYROLL SYSTEM WOULD, IT WOULD'VE NOT IMPACT OUR UNEMPLOYMENT TAX AND THE TAXATION.
WHEN I QUESTIONED IT, I WAS TOLD THAT I COULDN'T, I COULDN'T DO THAT SIMPLY FOR THE REASON THAT, UH, TACK WANTED IT FOR OUR WORKERS' COMP AND WE TALKED WITH THEM AND GOT THE CLARIFICATION.
IF IT'S IN A SEPARATE PHONE, WE CAN STILL RUN THE REPORT FOR THEM TO, TO LOOK AT IT.
AND THAT'S ONE REASON HE HAD RAN THROUGH PAYROLL AND I KEPT, I JUST DIDN'T AGREE WITH THAT.
SO WE WENT AND TALKED TO EVERYBODY AND EVERYBODY AGREED, YEAH, WELL, WE'LL CUT IT IN A SEPARATE PHONE AND ACCOUNT FOR DIFFERENTLY.
BUT WE HAD TO GET ODYSSEY TYLER TO FINALLY PROGRAM IT AND GET WITH STW SO THAT THE CLERKS COULD BE TRAINED OUT OF THE DIFFERENT OFFICES TO DROP IT INTO A FILE THAT KW CAN GO OUT TO AND PULL INTO STW AND PRINT THE CHECKS.
SO IT TOOK A COUPLE OF MONTHS TO GET ALL THAT ESTABLISHED.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? REFERENCE MANAGEMENT.
YOU USUALLY ASK FOR ANYTHING ABOUT OVER 10,000.
UH, THE REASON WE'RE MOVING THAT IS THERE WAS A FULL-TIME POSITION THAT WAS BUDGETED IN THAT FUND.
42 AND LAURA'S BEEN USING PART-TIME HELP AND THAT'S WHAT SHE LIKE TO CONTINUE TO GET SOME OF THIS IMAGING DONE.
ANY QUESTIONS? MOTION TO ACCEPT LINE ITEM TRANSFERS THAT PRESENTED.
YOUR CLAIMS FOR PAYMENT AMOUNT TO 1,000,300 THOUSAND 3 9 2 14.
UM, WHERE'S THE BOX PLEASE? LAST COMMISSIONER'S COURT.
YOU PULLED AN INVOICE FOR UM, FINLEY AND WE HAVE SOME ADDITIONAL INFORMATION ATTACHED TO THAT
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AND IF YOU'LL APPROVE THAT FOR PAYMENT, I CAN WRITE THAT CHECK TODAY.ALRIGHT, SEE THE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION? SORRY, I DIDN'T HEAR YOU.
I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION.
IT'S GONNA BE ATTACHED RIGHT HERE FOR YOUR REVIEW.
SO WE'LL SEE IT BEFORE, YES SIR.
I DON'T REMEMBER WHO WAS IN YOUR MEETING.
WE UH, TAKE, TAKE A FIVE MINUTE BREAK BEFORE WE START PAYING THE BILLS.
SO WE'RE ADJOURNED FOR ABOUT FIVE MINUTES.
OKAY, THEN I MADE, THAT'S GONNA BE FOR RESEARCH.
THAT WAS FOR UH, UH, COPY PAPER AND UH, PRINT CARTRIDGES.
WHAT'S THIS GUY? YOU, WHAT'S THIS OTHER ONE FOR? THESE NEW UH, THEY BOUGHT ARE YEAH, THAT PAPER BOUGHT FOR EVERYBODY OUT.
YEAH, THAT'S, WE DON'T HAVE STORAGE.
WHAT IS, WHAT IS BIG CHEAPER? WHAT IS BIG COUNTRY SUPPLY? HE'S LOOKING THAT UP FOR YOU.
THAT ONE I'M GETTING THE BUSINESS SINK RIGHT NOW.
UH, BIG COUNTRY SUPPLY I THINK.
LET'S SEE, DID YOU LOOK THIS BUSINESS VOTER REGISTRATION CARDS? UM, THE ENVELOPES TO MAIL ON JUDGE.
YEAH, THE BUSINESS INK WAS ALL STUFF FOR THE VOTER REGISTRATION.
AND THE OTHER ONE IS THE WHAT? BIG COUNTRY SUPPLY.
IS THAT WHAT THAT SAYS? BIG COUNTRY SUPPLY SOMETHING RG 35 6 PRETTY, I GUESS I MISUNDERSTOOD YOU ON THAT ROAD REPORT.
UH, YEAH THE OTHER DAY I, SINCE I JUST PUT THE ONES DOWN THAT WERE DAMAGED.
YEAH, BUT YOU NEED TO ATTACH THE WHOLE ROAD REPORT TOO.
DOES THAT BE NOTARIZED? YEAH, THE COUNTRY IS SOME SUPPLIES THAT THE FIRE MARSHAL ORDER ACTUALLY WHERE IS THAT PLACE? ABILENE.
ABILENE, OKAY, I SEE THAT
IT'S JUST THAT, JUST THAT TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF MONEY SPENT.
WHAT DO YOU NEED MCCOY? IS THAT A FUND? 82? THAT 1900? YEAH.
I BELIEVE THAT'S LAST I WOULD, SO YEAH, THAT WAS OUT OF THE FORM
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MUSEUM.MM-HMM
THIS IS, YOU SEE 12, 17, 18, 23 28, 9 WORTH OF JOBS THERE.
UM, THAT PART, I DUNNO, I KNOW WHO IT, WHO WOULD'VE SIGNED THIS CONTRACT AROUND? NOT THAT BIG.
IS THAT ONE CHILD SHOW, HUH? NO, THIS IS ON THE SEE THE CONTRACT AMOUNTS OVER THERE.
THEY, THE FARM MUSEUM DOES HAVE SOME MONEY STUFF BACK, BUT I'M NOT SURE HOW MUCH THEY HAVE STUFF BACK.
UM, I KNOW THAT MR. COUNTRYMAN IS A MEMBER ON THE HISTORICAL COMMISSION AND HE APPROVED FOR HIM TO UH, MOVE, UH, THE, UH, HISTORICAL COMMISSION SECRETARY TO BE PAID OUT.
AND I SAID THERE'S NO BUDGET FOR THAT SO I'M GONNA TALK TO HIM.
IS THERE A BUDGET FOR THAT? YEAH, UH, I THINK REALLY THE ONLY BUDGET THEY HAVE IS LIKE MISCELLANEOUS BUDGET.
THEY HAVE THAT MISCELLANEOUS BUDGET.
HOW MANY DOLLARS? HOW MANY, HOW MUCH IS THE BUDGET FOR THAT? I CAN'T REMEMBER.
'CAUSE I KNEW WE CARRIED OVER SOME FUNDS.
BUT YOU ARE THE ONES THAT ESTABLISHED THEIR BUDGET AND APPROVED IT WITH THE DOCUMENT.
YOU KNOW, OUR BUDGET DOCUMENT.
AND MY QUESTION WAS WHY ARE THEY MOVING FROM HISTORICAL COMMISSION TO THE FORM MEETING IN THE MIDDLE OF YEAR AND WE ALREADY HAVE IT ESTABLISHED.
IT'S BEEN LIKE THAT FOR MANY, MANY YEARS.
THEY TOLD ME, SAID HE MIGHT APPROVE IT ONE THE COURT TO DO THAT BECAUSE I WORKED OUT ESTABLISHED IN THAT OTHER YEAH, AFTER WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS THERE'S A, IT LOOKED LIKE SOMEBODY MAY HAVE SIGNED A CONTRACT FOR 28 9 WORTH OF CERTAIN PROFESSIONAL SERVICES FOR THE FORM.
IS THAT A POSSIBILITY? I KNOW IT'S A POSSIBILITY.
I THOUGHT CAN WE, CAN WE PAY THEIR BILLS OUTSIDE THEIR CONTRACT HAVE CONTRACT THE COURT.
THEY HAVE A, A MISCELLANEOUS LOAN OUT OF BUDGET OF ABOUT 2020 2008 30 HISTORICAL COMMISSION.
THAT'S IN THE HISTORICAL, THE CONTRACT.
I JUST, THE BILL'S GOT THE LIST OF SERVICES THAT THE PEOPLE WERE PLANNING ON DOING.
BUT THE SERVICES THEY GOT THIS JOHN, THERE IS 28 MORE SERVICES.
WE'VE NEVER SPENT 28 OUT THERE.
LISTEN, AND THIS IS FOR PLANNING.
LOOK AT THE BILL AND SEE WHAT IF THEY'VE ALREADY DONE THIS.
I GUESS THIS IS A, YOU'RE SAYING THIS IS A LEGITIMATE EXPENSE.
THAT'S WHAT WAS SUBMITTED TO ME.
CODED TO THE MISCELLANEOUS LINE ITEM THAT THEY HAVE THE MONEY.
I HAVE NO IDEA IF THAT'S BEEN BROUGHT TO THE COURT OR ANYTHING OR HOW THEY PLAN ON PAYING FOR IT.
COURT ALREADY PLANNING WHO NEED A PLAN? HUH? ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT YEAH, DON'T THEY HAVE THEIR OWN BOARD? I MEAN THEY'RE KIND OF GOVERNED BY BOARD.
SO WHAT'S OUR, WHAT'S OUR ROLE IN THIS? PAY ALL THE BILLS.
WELL THEY'RE SUBMITTING BILLS TO US.
THEY BOARD SUBMITTING BILLS TO US.
WELL THOSE, THOSE BILLS ARE PAID FOR OUT OF SEPARATE, UH, BANK ACCOUNTS.
THOSE AREN'T EVEN PART OF THAT GENERAL BANK.
IT'S NOT A PART OF OUR, OUR MONEY.
IT'S THE MONEY THAT WE THAT YEAH.
I THINK ON THE RENTAL CLAIM THAT THEY DID, WE DIDN'T PAY.
AND THERE WAS UH, A ONE INVOICE WHEN I FIRST CAME TO WORK HERE OF SOME REPAIR WORKERS AND
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WADE JEN COME BY AND BROUGHT IT TO SOMEONE IN MY OFFICE AND SAID, HEY, REFUSED TO PAY THE BILL FINAL CHECK AND COULDN'T FIND OUT.JOHNNY COUNTRY SHOULD BEEN THE ONE THAT SIGNED OFF ON WHO ACTUALLY ORDERED THE DO THEY HAVE MONEY TO BREAK? YEAH, WE, WE HAVE DO A BUDGET FOR THEM EVERY YEAR FOR THE FORM MUSEUM AND THE HISTORICAL COMMISSION.
THAT'S WHY I NEEDED TO TALK TO MR. COUNTRYMAN AND HE'S NOT HERE SIMPLY FOR THE REASON.
THE REQUEST WAS ASKED TO MOVE ALL THE PAYROLL TO THE FARM MUSEUM AND TAKE IT OUTTA THE HISTORICAL AND WE ALREADY APPROVED THAT BUDGET AND IT'S PART OF Y'ALL'S DOCUMENT AND I NEED TO KNOW SHOULD WE NOT EVEN INCLUDE HIM ANYMORE IN THAT, IN THAT BUDGET OR WHAT YOU WANT ME TO GRAB JOHNNY? HE'S NOT HERE.
SOMETHING WE NEED TO LOOK INTO.
YEAH, I MEAN FOR THAT PART-TIME PERSON, THEY'RE, THEY'RE PAID FOR OUT OF FUND 10, BUT THEN THEY'RE, THEIR CHECKING ACCOUNT WRITES US A CHECK TO REIMBURSE US FOR THAT.
IT'S KIND OF A WASH, SO IT REALLY SHOULDN'T MATTER.
BUT ALREADY HAD IT SET UP IN THAT ONE FUND TO CHANGE THIS.
THAT'D BE WHAT THIS WOULD BE RIGHT HERE.
THAT'S THE 19 HUNDREDS, UM, INVOICE.
THAT'S SOMETHING, SOMETHING THAT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE EITHER NOT INVOLVED IN OR BE INVOLVED IN OR WHATEVER.
I KNOW, THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION BECAUSE WE'RE FINDING SOME OF THIS STUFF SET UP YEARS AGO AND NOBODY KNOWS SET UP OR WHO DOESN'T I WAS TRYING TO ONLINE.
THAT'S THE INITIAL INFORMATION THEY SENT.
I, I'M NOT SURE WHAT, I DON'T UNDERSTAND THE ROLE OF THE COUNTY.
MEAN NEITHER AS A PASS THROUGH OR I HAVE NO IDEA.
IT'S JUST FUNDS FROM FRIENDS OF THE FARM OR IT COULD BE FROM THEIR FUNDRAISERS AND ALL BECAUSE IT'S A SEPARATE BANK ACCOUNT AND IT'S SEPARATE CHECKS THAT WE DO NOT RUN THROUGH OUR SYSTEM.
THE COUNTY TREASURER OFFICE WRITES THE CHECKS AND SIGNS IT AND SENDS IT TO ME.
'CAUSE I HAVE TO COUNTER SIGN IT.
WE INCLUDE IT IN OUR MANUAL CHECKS BECAUSE I'M NOT GONNA HIDE THEM.
THIS IS THE CHECKS WE'VE WRITTEN.
AND WHY HOLD UP, I JUST WONDER WHAT WHAT'S, WHAT'S OUR ROLE IN, IN THIS? THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION.
WE WE'RE JUST PAYING SOMEBODY $1,800 WITH SOMEBODY'S MONEY AND I DON'T KNOW WHOSE OR WHY YEAH.
BE A GOOD QUESTION TO ASK MR. COUNTRY.
SO ARE ARE YOU GUYS TRYING TO FIND OUT WHERE IT'S FUNDED THROUGH? IS THAT THAT BASICALLY THE QUESTION'S BEING USED? NO, THEY KNOW IT'S NOT OUR MONEY.
THEY JUST WANT TO KNOW WHAT THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT ROLE IS.
ARE THEY SUPPOSED TO BE APPROVING ALL THOSE CHECKS TOO? AND IS THAT, IS THAT A BUDGETED EXPENSE? YEAH, THEY DO HAVE A BUDGET FOR THAT.
BUT KEN PUT THE MONEY IN THERE.
NOW WHERE THEIR MONEY CAME FROM.
I HAVE NO IDEA IF IT'S LIKE FUNDRAISERS, LIKE WHEN THEY HAVE THE, THE OPEN UP TO THE KIDS AND BRING THEIR KIDS, THE MONEY THAT THEY MAKE IS, IS PUT IN THAT BANK ACCOUNT.
WELL, UH, ACCORDING TO WHAT'S BEING RECORDED IN THE TREASURER'S OFFICE AS RECEIPTS, IT'S ONLY COMING FROM KAMAN COUNTY.
WELL WE DID GIVE THEM A QUARTER AN ALLOTMENT.
YEAH, BUT IT'S NOT A WHOLE LOT OF MONEY.
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ALREADY HAVE MONEY FROM OTHER THINGS TOO.THERE'S NO WAY $1,700 WOULD'VE ADDED UP TO 22,000.
THEY GOT SOME OF THAT SOMEWHERE ELSE.
WELL I CAN DEFINITELY LOOK INTO IT.
ONCE WE FIND OUT WHERE ALL IT COMES FROM, ASK JOHN THE LEGAL OF IT.
SO WE'RE, UH, I YEAH, SHE GOT THOSE ON THE ROAD REPORT THINGS BECAUSE SHE HAD ALL OF THEM.
UH, SO WHAT IS THAT GONNA BE PAID? WHATEVER IT WAS.
CODE TO I'LL HAVE TO LOOK PROFESSIONAL.
MY CONCERN IS WE'RE NOT COLLECTING ENOUGH MONEY AND OUR DEVELOPERS AND THEY'RE THE ONES THAT HOW MUCH MONEY COLLECT MONEY.
THEY SAID THIS IS GONNA BE OUR CHARGE.
AND WITH THE PEOPLE THAT TRANSPORTATION MEET.
I I THOUGHT, I THOUGHT IT WAS GONNA BE ON TWO DIFFERENT DAYS, BUT OKAY.
I 20 ITEMS, 20 ITEMS ON THE AGENDA.
HE COMES IN, WE PUT 10 ON THE AGENDA LEAVE.
WHEN I FRIDAY HE SAID, WELL, I'M NOT GONNA BE HERE.
BUT SINCE Y'ALL WHAT DAY THAT, UH, 30, THE 30TH? YEAH.
WE, NO, JUST IF Y'ALL AND THEN CALL THE MEETING EVERYBODY IN THIS BUILDING, WHATEVER WE QUESTION, QUESTION, QUESTION.
WHAT IS GONNA HAPPEN? WHAT TIME WAS THAT? THAT'D BE A GOOD WHATEVER.
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ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS.WHAT I DON'T DO IS GET EACH INDIVIDUAL OFFICE NOW.
THE CONTRACT GONNA BE, IT DOES NEED WHO'S GOING BE, COULD GO TO OR ISSUES.
THEY ALSO, INDIVIDUAL OFFICER, VERY WELL, THEY'RE GOING BE VERY COOPERATIVE AND TRYING TO GET SOMETHING IS GONNA BE NASTY AND, BUT THEY WORK DURING THE DAY.
THEY GONNA ACCESS IT UPSTAIRS.
MATERIAL STUFF, MATERIAL PERSONNEL DOWN FROM OUTSIDE.
OUTSIDE, YOU KNOW, OVER SIX FOOT AIN'T GONNA MAKE IT COURT MR. CLARK.
THEY GET THE BILLS AND THE, UH, MOTION NEEDS TO BE TO INCLUDE THE FAMILY INVOICE FOR PAYMENT TO INCLUDE IN THERE.
IF YOU'RE WANTING TO PAY IT BECAUSE WE'RE, WE'RE HOLDING IT.
AND I DON'T HOLD IT UP EITHER ON THERE, BUT I DO WANT ON THURSDAY HAS TO GO THROUGH THE JUDGE.
OTHERWISE WE GET THIS BILL FOR THREE OR $4,000 THAT WE WAS GETTING AND VERY MUCH A NEEDED THING TO DO.
BUT SOMEBODY NEEDS, IT'S REAL SIMILAR TO THE CONTRACT WE GOT WITH THE LAW.
IF SHE CALLS B STAND, IF THE JUDGE CALLS BICK STAFF AND THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY CALLS BICK STAFF, THEY CHARGES THREE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
IF YOU CALL EM IT'S $350 AN HOUR.
AND SO YOU DON'T HAVE AUTHORITY TO CALL, I'LL HAVE AUTHORITY TO CALL WITHOUT DISAPPROVAL.
IS THERE ANYTHING BECAUSE THEY'RE RUNNING BILLS UP ON PRETTY, THEY'RE PRETTY GOOD RUNNING THAT BILL UP.
VERY WELL COULD BE LIKE, THEY COULD BE A THING TO DO, BUT SOMEBODY NEEDS TO CONTROL HIM.
SO GOING DO THE JUDGE SAY, KEN, YOU NEED HIS WIFE.
BUT I JUST ISSUED THAT CONTRACT.
SOMETHING THAT COSTS LOT OF MONEY.
AND THEN WHEN THEY GIVE US SUB SUBDIVISION PLANNING FEES TO COVER OUR EXPENSES, THEN THEY TURN AROUND AND GO WHAT THEY TOLD CHARGE, WE NEED TO CHARGE, THEY NEED NEED TO PAY.
WE SAID EXACTLY LIKE DEAL WITH KEN LANE.
I'LL GET WITH THE JUDGE ON THERE.
WELL, HE'S NOT HERE BY, WE PUT HIM IN CHARGE.
THIS IS WHAT WE, WE CAN'T, WE CAN'T DECIDE.
NOT ON THE AGENDA, BUT THERE'S MOTION TO MADE TO APPROVE BILLS BY MR. MR. MANDY.
DON'T PUT IT IN FURTHER DISCUSSION.
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AYE.NOT MUCH DISCUSSION ON THAT ONE PERSON.