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I THINK JUDGE WILL LET YOU TALK ANYTIME WE GET READY.
WELCOME YOU THIS MORNING TO THE, UH, MONDAY, FEBRUARY 10TH MEETING ATTON COUNTY COMMISSIONER'S COURT.
UH, THANK YOU FOR BEING IN ATTENDANCE.
UH, THE SHERIFF HAS ALREADY ANNOUNCED, IF YOU'D LIKE TO ADDRESS THE COURT HERE, A FEW MOMENTS.
WE CERTAIN WE'RE WELCOME TO DO THAT.
AFTER WE DO OUR OPENING, UH, UH, PART OF THE MEETING, UH, WE WILL BEGIN WITH AN INVOCATION.
AND I'VE ASKED, UH, UH, COMMISSIONER SHANE DO THAT.
THEN WE'LL HAVE THE, UH, P OF ALLEGIANCE TO BOTH OF OUR FLAGS.
THEN WE'LL HAVE REMARKS FROM VISITORS.
SO IF YOU'LL JOIN WITH ME NOW, LET US PRAY.
OUR MOST GRACIOUS, HEAVENLY FATHER, WE JUST THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE MANY BLESSINGS YOU GIVE US EACH DAY.
WE JUST ASK YOU TO BLESS OUR COURT TODAY AS WE DO THE BUSINESS OF OUR COUNTY.
WE ASK YOU TO BLESS ALL OF OUR EMPLOYEES AS THEY WORK FOR US.
ALSO, WE ASK YOU TO BLESS OUR TROOPS THAT ARE IN HARM'S WAY AND BRING THEM HOME SAFELY.
WE ALSO ASK YOU TO BLESS US WITH MORE RAIN.
AS AS THE FARMERS WE THANK, WE ATE ALL OF YOUR SON'S NAME, AMEN OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD AND INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE.
FOR ALL ON HONOR, I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO BE TO TEXAS, ONE STATE UNDER GOD, ONE AN INDIVIDUAL.
AND WE DON'T HAVE ANYONE SIGNED UP, GET INTO THE, UH, MEETING.
I DON'T HAVE ANY ITEMS ON ROUTINE CORRESPONDENCE TO DISCUSS.
UH, BUT WE DO HAVE THREE ITEMS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA THAT WE'LL GO THROUGH HERE.
FIRST, UH, FIRST IS THE DISCUSSED AND CONSIDER PLANNING THE WEEK OF FEBRUARY THE SEVENTH THROUGH THE 14TH, UH, 2014 AS CONGENITAL HEART DEFECT AWARENESS WEEK IN DA COUNTY.
AND WE DO HAVE A PROCLAMATION THAT WE WILL, UH, UH, READ HERE JUST IN A MOMENT.
IN THAT REGARD, WE HAVE SOME SPECIAL GUESTS THAT WILL BE HERE WITH US AS WELL.
AND TO ITEM B IS TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER PROVING, UH, A RESOLUTION, RECOGNIZING LARRY COUNSEL ON RECEIVING THE HONOR OF EAGLE SCOUT WAR.
AND I BELIEVE LARRY AND HIS, UH, FOLKS ARE HERE WITH US THIS MORNING.
AND THEN ALSO, UH, TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER APPROVING IMPLICATION CAR T LEY FOR THE COMAN COUNTY SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT.
DO I HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR ANYBODY YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS ABOUT ANY OF THOSE ITEMS? NOT I'LL ENTERTAINER.
SO MADE, UH, COMMISSIONER MANNING MAKES THAT MOTION.
THOSE OPPOSED WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO NOW, WE DO HAVE TWO PROCLAMATIONS THAT, UH, I WOULD LIKE TO READ.
AND SO LISA, IF YOU, WE HAVE A YOUNG MAN HERE WE'RE GOING TO RECOGNIZE TODAY.
IF YOU AND YOUR GROUP WILL COME FORWARD, I'LL MEET YOU DOWN FRONT.
WE'LL READ THESE, UH, THIS FIRST, UH, PROCLAMATION.
ALL RIGHT, GOOD LOOKING GROUP HERE, EXCEPT FOR ME, LISA, WHY DON'T YOU, UH, LISA CONTACTED ME ABOUT THIS AND, UH, WE WERE HONORED TO DO SO.
AND WE'VE GOT A YOUNG MAN HERE THAT WE WANT TO RECOGNIZE TODAY AS, AS WELL AS WE READ THIS PROCLAMATION.
AND I'M GONNA LET YOU INTRODUCE EVERYBODY HERE AFTER I GET THROUGH THIS.
AND THIS PROCLAMATION SAYS, WHEREAS THE CONGENITAL HEART DEFECT ARE THE MOST FREQUENTLY OCCURRING BIRTH DEFECT AND THE LEADING CAUSE OF DEATH, UH, BIRTH DEFECT RELATED DEATHS WORLDWIDE.
AND WHEREAS OVER A MILLION FAMILIES FROM ACROSS AMERICA ARE FACING THE CHALLENGES AND HARDSHIPS OF RAISING, UH, CHILDREN WITH CONGENITAL HEART DEFECTS.
AND WHEREAS EVERY YEAR, 40,000 BABIES ARE BORN IN THE UNITED STATES WITH CONGENITAL HEART DEFECTS.
AND WHEREAS SOME CONGENITAL HEART DEFECTS ARE NOT DIAGNOSED UNTIL MONTHS OR YEARS
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AFTER BIRTH.AND WHEREAS UNDIAGNOSED CONGENITAL HEART CONDITIONS CAUSE MANY CASES OF SUDDEN CARDIAC DEATH IN YOUNG ATHLETES.
AND WHEREAS THESE STATISTICS, NEWBORNS AND YOUNG ATHLETES ARE NOT ROUTINELY SCREENED FOR CONGENITAL HEART EFFECTS, AND WHEREAS A DISPROPORTIONATELY SMALL AMOUNT OF FUNDING IS AVAILABLE FOR CONGENITAL HEART EFFECT RESEARCH AND SUPPORT, WHEREAS CONGENITAL HEART DEFECT AWARENESS WEEK PROVIDES AN OPPORTUNITY FOR FAMILIES WHOSE LIVES HAVE BEEN AFFECTED TO CELEBRATE LIFE AND TO REMEMBER LOVED ONES LOST, TO HONOR DEDICATED HEALTH PROFESSIONALS AND TO MEET OTHERS AND KNOW THEY ARE NOT ALONE.
AND WHEREAS THE ESTABLISHMENT OF THE CONGENITAL HEART DEFECT AWARENESS WEEK WILL ALSO PROVIDE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SHARE EXPERIENCES AND INFORMATION WITH THE PUBLIC AND THE MEDIA IN ORDER TO RAISE PUBLIC AWARENESS ABOUT CONGENITAL HEART EFFECTS.
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED BY THE KAUFMAN COUNTY COMMISSIONER'S COURT, THAT THE COURT PROCLAIMS FEBRUARY THE SEVENTH THROUGH THE 14TH TO BE CONGENITAL HEART DEFECT AWARENESS WEEK, AND ENCOURAGES ALL CITIZENS TO INCREASE AWARENESS, EDUCATION, AND SERVICES FOR CONGENITAL HEART EFFECTS, WHICH IT, WHICH EACH YEAR AFFECTS THOUSANDS OF BABIES IN TEXAS.
AND THIS IS SIGNED AND PROCLAIMED ON THIS THE, UH, 10TH DAY OF FEBRUARY, SIGNED BY BRUCE WOOD, KAUFMAN COUNTY JUDGE.
WE APPRECIATE THESE FOLKS BEING HERE, AND ESPECIALLY THIS YOUNG MAN.
YOU CAN TELL HE'S PRETTY LIVELY.
AND, UH, WOULD YOU LIKE TO INTRODUCE LISA? EVERYBODY THAT'S HERE.
ARD IS MY GRANDSON, ASHLEY, HIS MOM, AND KIM, HER MOTHER.
AND I BELIEVE YOU HAVE THE NURSE AND, AND YES, SHE'S THE PATIENT.
WELL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR BEING HERE.
AND DO YOU THINK THAT HE MIGHT HOLD ONTO THIS FOR A MOMENT? WE'VE ACTUALLY GOT TWO OF 'EM TO GIVE YOU, SO DO THAT.
ALRIGHT, I THINK WALKER WANTED TO SPEAK WHILE AGO, BUT
LET'S GIVE WALKER THE NEXT I'D LIKE TO INVITE LARRY COUNTS UP.
LARRY, IF YOU COME FORWARD AND YOUR FAMILY MEMBERS AS WELL, THIS IS QUITE A RECOGNITION AS WELL.
AND, UH, CONGRATULATIONS, YOUR, ANY YOUR YEAR YOU WANT TO COME UP, WE CAN GET SOMEBODY TO PROBABLY HELP OPERATE YOUR CAMERA AS WELL.
AND THIS IS A RESOLUTION RECOGNIZING LARRY COUNTS ON RECEIVING THE HONOR OF EAGLE SCOUT AWARD.
AND WHEREAS THE FOREMOST RESPONSIBILITY OF AN EAGLE SCOUT IS TO LIVE WITH HONOR TO AN EAGLE SCOUT, HONOR IS THE FOUNDATION OF ALL CHARACTER.
HE KNOWS THAT A SCOUT IS TRUSTWORTHY, IS LOYAL, IS COURAGEOUS, IS CHEERFUL, AND IS RESPONSIBLE IN SERVICE.
IT IS VITAL THAT HE SET AN EXAMPLE FOR OTHER SCOUTS HONORING HIS HOME, HIS CHURCH, HIS TROOP, AND HIS COMMUNITY.
AND WHEREAS LARRY COUNTS RECEIVED HIS EAGLE WARD FROM BOY SCOUT TRO 3 37 ON JANUARY THE FIRST, 2014, THE EAGLE SCOUT AWARD IS THE HIGHEST RANK IN THE BOY SCOUT PROGRAM.
AND WHEREAS LARRY COUNTS IS BEING RECOGNIZED FOR HIS OUTSTANDING ACHIEVEMENT AND EXCEPTIONAL LEADERSHIP ABILITY, EVIDENCED BY HIS ATTAINMENT OF THE RANK OF EAGLE SCOUT, THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED THAT THE KAUFFMAN COUNTY COMMISSIONER'S COURT OFFERS CONGRATULATIONS AND RECOGNITION TO LARRY COUNTS FOR THIS ACHIEVEMENT, FOR DEMONSTRATING FINE CHARACTER, FOR DEMONSTRATING OUTSTANDING CITIZENSHIP AND INVOLVING IN HIS COMMUNITY.
HE'S RICHLY DESERVING OF THIS RECOGNITION HE'S RECEIVED AND HIS FAMILY, FRIENDS AND FELLOW BOY SCOUTS CAN BE PROUD OF HIS DEDICATED SERVICE AND WITNESS THEREOF.
I HERE TO AFFECTS MY SIGNATURE.
THIS IS THE 10TH DAY OF, UH, FEBRUARY, 2014, BRUCE WOOD CALLED COUNTY JUDGE.
AND YOU WANNA SAY ANYTHING, MAYOR? I JUST APPRECIATE ALL COFFIN COUNTY HAVING MY BACK THROUGHOUT THIS WHOLE EXPERIENCE.
EVERYTHING I NEEDED, ALL I HAD TO DO WAS COME UP AND ASK AND EVERYBODY HAD MY BACK AND I WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN ABLE TO DO IT WITHOUT POP COUNTY AND I APPRECIATE THAT.
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THANK YOU.LET'S GIVE LARRY A ALRIGHT, MOVING ROUND ALONG THROUGH THE REST OF THE AGENDA, WE'LL GO ITEM NUMBER THREE.
AND THIS IS CONSIDERATION AND ACTION ON AN ORDER AUTHORIZING THE ISSUANCE.
SO AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED 31 MILLION KAMAN COUNTY, TEXAS UNLIMITED TAX ROAD BONDS.
HERE IS 2014 LIVING A CONTINUING DIRECT ANNUAL AVALOR TAX ON ALL TAXABLE PROPERTY WITHIN THE COUNTY TO PAY THE INTEREST ON SAID BONDS THAT CREATED INTEREST, A SINKING FUND FOR THE REDEMPTION THEREOF, AND THE ASSESSMENT AND COLLECTION OF SUCH TAXES AUTHORIZING THE SALE THEREOF AND, AND ACTING PROVISIONS INSTANT AND RELATED TO THE ISSUANCE SET BONDS.
AND SO I KNOW GEORGE WILLIFORD IS HERE, AND TOM PAUL, IF YOU GUYS WOULD LIKE TO COME FORWARD OR ONE OR BOTH OF YOU AND, UH, KIND OF EXPLAIN TO US WHAT ALL THIS IS THAT I JUST GOT THROUGH READING AND, UH, UH, WE PUT IT ON THE AGENDA JUST AS IT WAS PRESENTED.
UH, UH, MEMBERS OF THE COURT, UH, GEORGE WILKER SOUTHWEST FOR RECORD AND, UH, PLEASURE TO BE HERE.
I'LL, UH, KIND OF EXPLAIN THE, UH, RESULTS OF SALE OF THE BOND ISSUE, UH, SUBJECT TO COURT APPROVAL, AND THEN LET TOM, UH, INSTRUCTION ON THE LEGAL ASPECTS AND SO ON.
EACH OF YOU SHOULD HAVE RECEIVED A BOOK, WHICH, UH, BASICALLY HAS THE INFORMATION RELATING TO, UH, HOW THE, UH, ACTUAL PRICING AND SELL OF THE BOND ISSUE, UH, TURNED OUT.
WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO IS, IF YOU'LL NOTICE DOWN ON THE BOTTOM RIGHT HAND SIDE, IT SHOWS THE RATINGS, UH, STANDARD IN FOURS AND WHERE IT SAYS UNDERLYING A PLUS.
UH, PREVIOUSLY OR, OR PRIOR TO THE SALE, UH, THE COUNTY HAD AN A MINUS RATING.
AND SO WE HAD, UH, DISCUSSION AND, UH, JUDGE WOOD KAREN TELL YOU THAT IT WAS, UH, IN DEPTH, UH, THE RATING AGENCIES DO A VERY GOOD JOB, UH, AND A LOT OF INFORMATION WAS PROVIDED.
BUT ONE THING I WAS PARTICULARLY, UH, KIND OF IMPRESSED MYSELF, UH, BUT, UH, THE COMPLIMENT JUDGE WOOD REACHED OUT TO EITHER THE MAYOR OR CITY MANAGER, UH, KAUFMAN, CAROL CRANDALL AND FORNEY ABOUT WHAT WAS GOING ON IN THE COMMUNITIES.
AND EACH OF THEM PROVIDED, UH, VERY GOOD INFORMATION ABOUT DEVELOPMENT, UH, ECONOMIC ACTIVITY, UH, I SAID DEVELOPMENT, RESIDENTIAL AS WELL AS COMMERCIAL AND SO ON, THAT WAS OCCURRING THERE.
AND, AND THEN ANOTHER THING IS EACH OF THEM SAID THAT, UH, PART OF THIS TRANSPORTATION, UH, PROGRAM KIND OF OPENED UP FRONTAGE OR NEW DEVELOPABLE LAND AND SO ON WILL ENHANCE WHAT'S GOING ON IN THEIR COMMUNITIES.
AND ALL OF THAT MADE A REALLY BIG IMPRESSION ON THE RATING AGENCY.
AND YOU ALWAYS HOPE TO GET AN UPGRADE LIKE A NOTCH.
WE SAY IN THIS CASE, THEY UPGRADED THE COUNTY TWO FULL NOTCHES FROM A MINUS TO A PLUS.
SO YOU CAN TAKE PRIDE IN IN THAT.
SO VERY, WE ALSO, YOU'LL NOTICE ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE SAYS AA MINUS, UH, UH, INSURED.
WE, UH, UH, BECAUSE OF THE LITTLE HIGHER RATING OF THE INSURANCE COMPANIES, WE, UH, UH, SUBMITTED APPLICATIONS.
WE GOT BIDS ON, UH, RATES OF PREMIUMS FOR BOND INSURANCE AND DETERMINED THAT IT WOULD BE BENEFICIAL THAT ALSO HAVE THE DOUBLE A MINUS BY ASSURED GUARANTEE.
UH, IF I CAN DIRECT YOUR ATTENTION BEHIND, UH, TAB ONE, UH, WHAT UH, HAPPENED IS LAST THURSDAY, UH, BECAUSE COMMISSIONER'S COURTS IN MOST CASES MEET ON MONDAY MORNINGS, UH, YOU CAN'T PRICE THE BOND ISSUE ON MONDAY, UH, FROM A PRACTICAL STANDPOINT.
SO, UH, WE HAD WELLS, UH, FARGO AND RAYMOND JAMES AS THE UNDERWRITER FOR THE ISSUE, AND THEY, UH, WERE WILLING, UH, TO GO OUT LAST THURSDAY.
UH, TWO INVESTORS, UH, TRY TO MARKET THE BONDS BASED ON PRICING THAT, THAT OUR, OUR UNDERWRITING DESK CONCURRED WAS, WAS GOOD MARKET LEVEL PRICING.
AND AS YOU'LL SEE, UH, ON THE GREEN BOX, IT SHOWS, UH, THE DEBT SERVICE ASSOCIATED WITH THIS ISSUE SAYS FINAL.
AND THEN IT ALSO PROJECTS THE, THE NEXT TWO, UH, IN THIS CASE SERIES FROM THE OVERALL 56 MILLION AUTHORIZATION.
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THEY ACHIEVED THE RATE, EFFECTIVE INTEREST RATE OF TRUE INTEREST COSTS, UH, 4.24%.AND I WAS VERY PLEASED, UH, FROM A STANDPOINT OF I THINK THE COUNTY HIT THE MARKET AT A VERY GOOD TIME TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF CONTINUED, UH, LOW INTEREST RATES.
AND IF YOU'LL LOOK AT THE NEXT PAGE, OH, ONE THING I FAILED TO MENTION, THIS IS PROJECTED OF COURSE, BUT IT'S USING THE VERY SAME ASSUMPTIONS.
WE FROM THE OFFSET ON THE FAR RIGHT HAND SIDE, THE, UH, TAX RATE, UH, THROUGH FULL IMPLEMENTATION OF THE, UH, UH, ROAD PROGRAM.
WE HAD BEEN PROJECTING THAT THAT WOULD BE IN EXCESS OF SEVEN SINCE INITIAL C.
IF THE INTEREST RATES ON THE SUBSEQUENT ISSUANCES, UH, AREN'T ANY HIGHER, UH, AND THE VALUES WE'RE USING VERY CONSERVATIVE ASSUMPTIONS ON TAXABLE VALUE, UH, IT WOULD END UP BEING LESS THAN SEVEN P.
SO HOPEFULLY THAT MEANS THAT, UH, THE IMPACT OF THIS PROGRAM WILL BE LESS THAN EVEN VOTERS, UH, WERE TO.
AND GEORGE, YOU NOT MENTIONED, I NOTICED ON, UH, THE COLUMN H WHERE IT TALKS ABOUT PASS THROUGH PAYMENTS, UH, AND THAT INSERT IS GONNA BE ASSISTANCE SINCE THREE OF OUR RECEIV HAD PASS THROUGH AGREEMENTS, I BELIEVE.
THERE'S, UH,
IT'S NEARLY HALF A MILLION DOLLARS A YEAR AS YOU'LL SEE.
AND THAT, UH, UH, PLAYS AN IMPACT.
UH, WELL, YOU CAN SEE, UH, OVER HALF A PENNY, UH, REALLY ABOUT SIX TO EIGHT TENTHS OF A PENNY BENEFIT IN LOWERING THE TAX RATE, UH, FROM RECEIVING THOSE PASSING PAYMENT.
THE, UH, NEXT PAGE AND I'LL WRAP UP.
THIS IS A SOURCE AND WHAT I WANTED TO POINT OUT, THE AMOUNT OF THE ISSUE IS 29,163,000, UH, BECAUSE OF THE WAY THAT COUPON INTEREST RATES VERSUS THE YIELDS, UH, ARE STRUCTURED, UH, THERE'S ACTUALLY 1,000,008 41 OF PREMIUM DOLLARS THAT'LL BE RECEIVED, UH, THAT, THAT'S NOT HAVING TO BE IN THE SIZE OF THE ISSUE, LITERALLY.
UH, SO EVEN THOUGH THE, THE, UH, ISSUE SIZE IS ONLY 29 1 6 3, AS YOU'LL SEE ON THAT TOP, UH, LINE UNDER USES, THE COUNTY WILL RECEIVE FULL 30 MILLION FOR PROJECT COSTS, UH, HARD PROJECT COST, AND THEN ALL OF THE COST OF ISSUANCE AND UNDERWRITING ARE ALSO ABSORBED, UH, IN THAT PREMIUM.
THE LAST THING I I WANTED TO POINT OUT IS, UH, IF YOU LOOK BEHIND TAB TWO AND THERE'S A GRAPH, UH, OF THE BOND BUYER INDEX BY WEEK, GOING ALL THE WAY BACK TO, UH, 1994.
UH, BUT, AND YOU CAN SEE WE'RE IN A PROLONGED PERIOD OF LOW RATES, BUT IN THE NEXT PAGE, UH, THERE'S A LOT OF NUMBERS.
UH, BUT IF YOU LOOK OVER ON THE UPPER RIGHT HAND SIDE, UH, THE FIRST WEEK IN JANUARY, THE BOND BUYER WEEKLY INDEX OF RATES FOR TAXES AND BONDS WAS 4.75 LAST WEEK BASED ON SALE OF THIS, OR IN CONJUNCTION WITH THAT WAS 4.48.
SO I JUST WANNA POINT THAT OUT, THAT SINCE THE FIRST OF THE YEAR, INTEREST RATES HAVE DECLINED, UH, BY, UH, UH, OVER 25 BASIS POINTS OR OVER 40%.
SO THE COUNTY GOTTA TAKE ADVANTAGE AND THAT'S WHY I SAID EARLIER, I THINK IT'S A GOOD TIME THAT HAVE SOLD AND, AND GET THIS DONE, UH, BEFORE THE RATES MAY START UP.
AND THEN BEHIND TAB THREE, WE, UH, INCLUDED THE RATING, WRITE UP THE REPORT, THE STANDARD, AND I READ THAT IT, THAT I MENTIONED A LOT INFORMATION THAT I REFERRED TO WITH THAT, I BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AND, UH, LET TOM EXPLAIN, UH, THE PROCESS FOR CONSIDERATION OF, UH, APPROVAL OF THE ORDER.
I BELIEVE ON ALL PRESENTATIONS THAT WE MADE AROUND THE COUNTY, WE HAD PROJECTED A 5%, UH, INTEREST RATE, IF I REMEMBER CORRECT.
MOST RECENTLY FOR THE FIRST SERIES, IT WAS, WE'D ONLY LOWERED IT 4.7.
SO, UH, THE 4.24 IS, IS DEFINITELY WELL BELOW WHAT WE HAD, UH, USED FOR ASSUMPTION AND EVEN THE PROJECTIONS OF GROWTH, THE PROPERTY VALUE GROWTH HERE, I THINK WE PROJECTED 1% GROWTH.
ACTUALLY I WENT BACK AND LOOKED, IT'S A HALF A PERCENT FOR CERTAIN YEARS AND THEN IT'S CAP.
SO IT'S, IT'S VERY CONSERVATIVE, BUT IF THERE IS GROWTH BASED ON WHAT WE WERE TOLD, RIGHT DIFFERENT CITY TO GEORGE.
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A COPY OF THE PROPOSED ORDER CONDITIONS OF THE BONDS.THIS ORDER INCORPORATES ALL OF THE FINANCIAL INFORMATION, WHICH BROKER THAT JUST GO OVER THE INTEREST RATES, THE SALE TO THE UNDERWRITERS AND APPROVAL OF THIS ORDER WILL BE SELF ENACTING TO AUTHORIZE THE COUNTY JUDGE TO SIGN THE PURCHASE AGREEMENT WITH THE UNDERWRITERS.
IT'LL THEN AUTHORIZE ME TO TAKE THIS INFORMATION AND ALL THE DOCUMENTATION AND ATTORNEY SO CAN REVIEW IT.
CLOSING THE ORDER, JUST REAL QUICKLY, I'M GOING OVER IT.
SO EVERY YEAR, BASED ON AS YOU DO YOUR BUDGET, YOU INCORPORATE THE AMOUNT THAT DEBT SERVICE IN THE, UH, SET YOUR TAX RATE.
THE ORDER PROVIDES THAT THESE BONDS CAN BE CALLABLE THAT YOU CAN CALL THEM AFTER, UH, FEBRUARY 15TH, 2020 FOR A REFUND.
AT THAT TIME, IF MARKET CONDITIONS WARRANTED OR IF SOME REASON YOU HAVE SURPLUS FUNDS, YOU CAN PAY PART OF IT ALL.
THE PAGE 33 SHOWS HOW WE'RE GOING TO UTILIZE THE FUNDS.
WOULD 30 MILLION, EXACT 30 MILLION PROJECT GEORGE FIRST STRUCTURED THIS SO THAT GET TO PULL THEM OUT.
THE MONEY, THE PROJECT FUND THAT THE UNDERWRITERS ARE PAYING TO PAY OFF THE, UH, ALL THE COST OF ISSUES INCLUDING THE BOND INSURANCE 9 0 2, THESE BONDS WILL BE WITH SOME PAGE 35 FEDERAL TAX GO.
I DO NOT ANTICIPATE ANY REASON THAT THESE BONDS THROUGHOUT THE LIFE OF THE BONDS WOULD BECOME TAXABLE, BUT IT IS YOUR AGREEMENT THAT YOU'RE GONNA DO EVERYTHING TO KEEP THESE BONDS WHEN TAXABLE.
NORMALLY THAT WOULD HAPPEN IF YOU WOULD SELL PART OF THE HIGHWAY TO THE PRIVATE OPERATOR.
THAT WILL NOT BE PERMISSIBLE THAT CORRECTIVE ACTION.
BUT THESE ARE FOR GOVERNMENT PURPOSES.
I DO NOT PROCEED ANY INSTANCE THAT YOU TAX TAX FOR THESE.
ON PAGE 36, WE HAVE YOUR CONTINUED DISCLOSURE.
AGREED THAT VERY IMPORTANT YOU KEEP YOUR AUDITS UP TO DATE AND FILE YOUR AUDITOR.
VERY JOB OF THIS AS LONG AS YOU CAN FILE THAT ANY EVENTS NOTICE THAT COMES UP, WE SHOULDA HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH ANY OF THE SECURITY FRAUD ISSUES THAT COULD AC IF THERE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE ORDER OR PROCEDURE ON BEHALF.
COMMISSIONER, ANYBODY HAVE ANY, ANY QUESTIONS? I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT YOU APPROVE AN ORDER.
THIS ISSUANCE OF AN AMOUNT EXCEED 31 MILLION COFFMAN COUNTY, TEXAS UNLIMITED TAX BOND SERIES 2014, A CONTINUING DIRECT ANNUAL TAX ON ALL TAX PROPERTY WITHIN THE COUNTY, INTEREST ON BOND CREDIT SINKING FUND FOR REDEMPTION THEREOF IN ASSESSMENT AND COLLECTION OF SUCH TAXES AUTHORIZING THE SALE THEREOF AND ENACTING PROVISION INCIDENT RELATED TO THIS
WOULD THAT BE CORRECT TO, I WOULD ASK THAT WE CHANGE THE AMOUNT FROM THE AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED TO THE EXACT AMOUNT OF 20 $50 40 CENTS.
DID YOU GET THAT LAURA? YES, SIR.
WHICH IS ON THE FRONT OF THE, YEAH, FRONT OF THE, AND WE HAVE A MOTION FROM UH, COMMISSIONER CLARK TO APPROVE.
DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND COMMISSIONER SECOND.
I BELIEVE WE UNDERSTAND THE FUNDS WILL FLOW UP MARCH THE 11TH.
AND I KNOW THE, BEEN TALKING WITH THE TREASURER, HE'S BEGINNING TO LOOK AT WAYS TO INVEST THAT AND THESE BONDS WILL DRAW INTEREST BETWEEN THAT THEN I BELIEVE AS WELL THEY WILL.
UH, AND YOU HAVE NOT, UH, UH, WE
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FIXED THEM UP AS CONSTRUCTION BONDS SO THAT YOU CAN, IF FOR SOME REASON YOU COULD GIVE GOOD INTEREST, RIGHT? BUT YOU DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT RESTRICTING THEM FOR ARBITRAGE AFTER THREE YEARS WE HAVE TO BACK CUTTING.WE HAVE TO RESTRICT TO THE YIELD ON BONDS.
OKAY? AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE PROBABLY WON'T HAVE ANY TROUBLE SPENDING, BUT UH, YOU KNOW, AND THAT STILL LEAVES US SOME APPROXIMATELY 26,000,002 SALE AT SOME POINT THERE.
YES, AND I REFLECTED THAT IN YOUR, OKAY.
OTHER QUESTIONS FROM ANYBODY? I'D LIKE THAT KYLE AND GEORGE VERY MUCH WITH, UH, THIS VERY ELABORATE DETAILED INFORMATION WE HAVE TO GET DEPARTMENT.
THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT WE TOLD WHAT WE GONNA BE DOING.
I'M SURE SAID WE'RE GONNA DO WHAT WE SAID WE WANNA MAKE.
SIR, THANK EVERYBODY'S ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
THANK, THANK AND WE'LL, UH, TAKE A BREAK HERE IN A LITTLE BIT.
I KNOW THERE'S SOME DOCUMENTS THAT THE COUNTY CLERK AND I NEED TO SIGN AND SO WE'LL DO THAT HERE JUST WHILE.
I'D LIKE TO, UH, MOVE, UH, UP TO ITEM NUMBER NINE AND THAT IS TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER APPROVAL OF A FULL-TIME ASSISTANT COURT ATTORNEY POSITION FOR THE FOUR 22ND JUDICIAL COURT.
I KNOW JUDGE CHI HAS COURT GOING ON TODAY, I BELIEVE, AND UH, UH, BUT I'VE ASKED HIM TO COME OVER AND BELIEVE, UH, HE'S BEEN WORKING WITH THE ACCOMPLISH WHAT HE'S ASKING US TO DO.
I HAVE ASKED, UH, FOR SOME ADDITIONAL FUNDING FOR A FULL-TIME POSITION FOR THE ASSISTANT COURT COORDINATOR.
UH, AS I KNOW, YOU KNOW, UH, WE HAVE THREE PENDING CAPITAL MURDER CASES IN MY COURT AND, UH, JUDGE SNIPES HAS BEEN ASSIGNED TO HEAR THE TWO WILLIAMS CASES AND I WILL BE PRESIDING OVER THE BROWNLOW CASE IN CONNECTION WITH THE DISPOSITION OF THOSE THREE CASES.
UH, WE ANTICIPATE CALLING SOME HUGE NUMBERS OF PROSPECTIVE JURORS AND, UH, JUDGE SNIPES HAS INDICATED THAT HE WILL BE STARTING THE JURY SELECTION PROCESS IN MARCH.
UH, JUDGE SNIPES IS RELYING ON MY COORDINATOR JENNIFER
IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT JUDGE SNIPES IS PLANNING TO CALL IN SOME 3000 THE IRONMAN AND, UH, OUT OF THAT HOPEFULLY 600 TO 750, UH, WILL BE INDIVIDUALLY VO DIRE.
THAT WILL REQUIRE MY COORDINATOR TO MAKE INDIVIDUAL PHONE CALLS TO THOSE SIX TO 750 INDIVIDUALS TO SCHEDULE TIMES TO COME IN AND SUBMIT TO INDIVIDUAL QUESTIONING DURING THE RE DIRE PROCESS.
IN ADDITION, JUDGE SNIPES WILL HAVE MY COORDINATOR TRAVEL WITH HIM TO ROCKWALL.
THE CASE HAS BEEN MOVED AND BE WITH HIM ON CERTAIN DAYS IN ROCKWALL AS HE'S CONDUCTING RE DIRE AND PRESIDING OVER THE TRIAL THAT'S GOING BELIEVE MY COURT WITHOUT COVERAGE UNLESS WE GET A FULL-TIME ASSISTANT.
UH, IN ADDITION, THE BROWNLOW CASE WILL REQUIRE KIND OF A SIMILAR DEALING WITH JURY BERN IRON.
AND SO WE ARE LOOKING AT SUBSTANTIAL ADDITIONAL WORK FOR MY OFFICE STAFF IN CONNECTION WITH THE PROSECUTION OF THOSE CASES.
UH, MY COORDINATOR'S WORKING FULL CAPACITY RIGHT NOW, JUST LITERALLY DOESN'T HAVE ENOUGH TIME TO DO THIS WITHOUT SOME ASSISTANCE.
AND SO I'M ASKING THE COURT TO APPROVE A FULL-TIME SECOND POSITION OF HOW THAT PART-TIME ASSISTANT COORDINATOR WORKING ABOUT 10 HOURS A WEEK.
AND WE WOULD, UH, ASK THAT THAT POSITION BE MADE FULL TIME TO ASSIST WITH THE ADDITIONAL WORKLOAD, UH, CAUSED BY THESE THREE CAPITAL CASES.
AND I BELIEVE, UH, KAREN HAS DONE, UH, AN ANALYSIS FOR YOU.
UH, THE BASE SALARY FOR THAT POSITION, WHICH IS THE SAME AS AN ASSISTANT CLERK IN I THINK OUR COUNTY AND DISTRICT CLERK'S OFFICE.
UH, YOU HAVE APPROVED $20,000 FOR MY PART-TIME POSITION.
WE'VE BEEN UNDER BUDGET ON THAT PART-TIME POSITION BECAUSE, UH, THE GIRL WE'RE USING RIGHT NOW IS ONLY ABLE TO WORK ABOUT 10 HOURS A WEEK INSTEAD OF 20.
SHE'S GOT ANOTHER PART-TIME JOB THAT SHE'S WORKING AND UH,
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UH, IF WE MAKE THIS POSITION FULL-TIME, SHE CAN QUIT WORKING.THE OTHER PART-TIME JOB, COME FULL-TIME WITH US AND PICK UP THE SLACK THAT WE, UH, HAVE WITH, UH, THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE CRIMINAL PROSECUTIONS ON CAPITAL CASES.
UH, AS YOU CAN SEE, WE'VE GOT 18,000 OUTTA THAT 20 STILL LEFT OVER IN MY BUDGET AFTER FOUR MONTHS INTO THIS FISCAL YEAR.
THE ADDITIONAL SALARY AMOUNTS NEEDED TO BE THE 8,986 PLUS RETIREMENT SOCIAL SECURITY AND INSURANCE.
SO TOTAL OF 14 7 48 IS WHAT WE WOULD BE.
YOU HAVE BEEN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
YOUR, YOU SAID, YOU SAID THE, UM, THE NEW ASSISTANT WOULD BE GOING TO ROCKWALL.
JENNIFER WOULD BE GOING TO ROCKWALL.
THE NEW ASSISTANT WOULD BE STAYING.
AND THAT'S THE FULL-TIME POSITION.
DO YOU ANTICIPATE THAT TO BE A FULL TIME MEETING? YES, SIR.
THE JURORS AND THE JURY SELECTION IS GONNA BE IN ROCKWELL ON THE WILLIAMS CASE IN BROWNLOW HERE IN TON.
I'M ASSUMING THAT'S ASSUMING THE BROWNLOW CASE DOESN'T GET MOVED.
OUR CAPITAL DEFENSE INSURANCE POLICY THAT WE HAVE, THEY DON'T PAY FOR, NOT FOR THE COORDINATORS.
THAT'S JUST DEFENSE FUNDING, DEFENSE LAWYERS.
BUT I WILL, PAM QUARTER I KNOW IS GETTING SOME, UH, GRANT FUNDING TO ASSIST WITH OUR COSTS AND IT IS VERY POSSIBLE THAT SOME OF THIS ADDITIONAL COST COULD BE THAT GRANT REQUEST AS A COST OF CAPITAL, THE PROSECUTION ONCE THESE CASES ARE OVER, DO YOU ANTICIPATE GOING BACK TO THIS ONE COURT COORDINATOR? POSSIBLY, UH, I WILL TELL YOU THAT MY COORDINATOR HAS BEEN OVERWORKED AND OVERWHELMED.
UH, WITH THIS TWO, UH, TWO HOUR A DAY PART-TIME ASSISTANT, WE MAY NEED TO BUCKET UP SOME ADDITIONAL HOURS AND, UH, PART-TIME.
WELL, COMMISSIONER, LET ME, LET ME JUST SAY THAT I'VE ASSUMED SOME ADDITIONAL DUTIES AS LOCAL ADMINISTRATIVE JUDGE THAT REQUIRES SOME ADDITIONAL ADMINISTRATIVE DUTIES THAT MY COORDINATOR ASSISTS.
UM, UH, SO IN ADDITION TO LOCAL ADMINISTRATIVE JUDGE DUTIES AND SERVICE ON THE NORTH TEXAS BEHAVIORAL HEALTH AUTHORITY AND SERVICES, A DIRECTOR OF THE TEXAS ASSOCIATION OF, UH, DRUG COURT PROFESSIONALS, I DO HAVE QUITE A BIT OF ADMINISTRATIVE WORK ON TOP OF OUR REGULAR DOCKETS.
AND I DON'T WANT TO MISLEAD THE COURT AT ALL.
UH, THIS MAY BE A FULL-TIME POSITION, UH, ULTIMATELY BECAUSE OF ALL THE ADMINISTRATIVE DUTIES.
UM, I KNOW THOSE OF YOU WHO HAVE SEEN ME PERFORM IN THE LAST 10 YEARS, YOU KNOW, I DON'T ASK FOR THINGS I DON'T NEED.
AND SO IF I DON'T NEED IT, I WILL NOT ASK FOR IT IN THE UPCOMING BUDGET.
BUT I DON'T WANT TO TELL YOU TODAY THAT I'M NOT GOING TO NEED IT.
JIMMY COVERED, UH, MY QUESTION, YOUR HONOR, UH, ABOUT THE PERSON BEING RETAINED AFTER THE DISPOSITION OF THESE CASES, BUT, UH, IT OCCURRED TO ME, UH, DOES THIS CO PERSON, WILL SHE COORDINATE ON HIM FOR YOUR COURT? IN OTHER WORDS, SAY AFTER THE DISPOSITION OF THE CASE IS, UH, IF, IF SOME OF THE OTHER JUDGES NEED SOME HELP, WOULD YOU BE ABLE AVAILABLE TO HELP THEM? ABSOLUTELY.
UH, COMMISSIONER, UH, ALL OF THE COURTS WERE AGREE COOPERATIVELY.
IF ONE OF OUR COORDINATORS IS ABSENT THE ILLNESS OR ATTENDING THE CONFERENCE OR WHATEVER REASON, VACATION, WE'LL SHARE COORDINATORS.
UH, AND WE DO THAT ON A ROUTINE BASIS AND UH, WE WOULD CERTAINLY CONTINUE TO DO THAT.
AND, UH, IT IS POSSIBLE, UH, THAT WE CAN CROSS TRAIN THIS INDIVIDUAL ALSO TO BACK UP OUR INDIGENT DEFENSE, UH, COORDINATOR ANNETTE LARSON, WHO I THINK PAM IS ACTUALLY DOING SOME OF THAT NOW, BUT, UH, PROBABLY COULD UTILIZE ANOTHER INDIVIDUAL TO BACK UP THOSE TWO INDIVIDUALS ALSO.
UH, YES, I'D SURE LIKE TO SEE US HAVE A WORKSHOP ON THIS BEFORE WE GO ON THIS TO INCREASE OUR BUDGET AGAIN AND, AND DO THIS.
I THINK WE NEED TO ALL SIT DOWN AND REALLY HAVE A GOOD, UH, TIME TALKING ABOUT THIS AND, AND REALLY LAY IT ON THE TABLE AND SEE WHAT OPTIONS REALLY ARE, WHETHER WE CAN REALLY AVOID IT OR NOT.
I THINK, UH, WE OWE THE TAXPAYERS THAT, UH, RIGHT NOW WITH OUR BUDGETS AND THINGS WE'VE BEEN HOLDING LINE ON SPENDING MONEY, NOT PUT THAT FORM MOTION.
AND WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER SHANE TO TABLE THIS AND UH, DO A WORKSHOP.
BEFORE, BEFORE WE VOTE, I'D LIKE TO ADD
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ONE THING.UM, WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS ON CREATING A CENTRAL JURY ROOM, SAY AT MAYBE AT THE SOUTH CAMPUS WHERE ALL THE JURORS COULD PRE-QUALIFY BEFORE WE HAVE A COURTHOUSE WITH US? I THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA TO HAVE A CENTRAL JURY ROOM.
I, I'M NOT SURE HOW THAT WOULD WORK SOUTH CAMPUS, TO BE HONEST WITH YOU.
YEAH, I, THAT COMES, I'VE THOUGHT ABOUT IT FOR YEARS, COMMISSIONER.
I WISH WE HAD THE SPACE TO DO IT.
IT WOULD MAKE A LOT OF SENSE TO CALL ONE BIG PANEL IN, LET 'EM BE ASSIGNED TO VARIOUS COURTS FOR DISTRIBUTION JURY CASES DURING THE WEEK.
RIGHT NOW WE DON'T HAVE THE FACILITIES TO DO IT, IN MY OPINION, BUT I LIKE THE CONCEPT.
DO YOU THINK THE FACILITY, UM, IS NOT LARGE ENOUGH OR NOT ACCURATE AT THE, UH, I WOULD HAVE TO LOOK AT IT.
MY GUT FEELING IS IT'S PROBABLY NOT ADEQUATE.
WHAT ABOUT MAYBE THE OLD ORY? UH, WELL IF IT, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE CAPACITY OF THAT BUILDING IS.
WHAT, WHAT AMOUNT? JUROR IS NORMALLY CALLED TWO TO 300.
WE NORMALLY CALL IN ON MY CASES, WE NORMALLY CALL IN ABOUT 250 TO 300 DEPENDING ON THE NATURE OF THE CASE, WHETHER OR NOT THE DEFENDANT'S PROBATION ELIGIBLE, DEPENDING ON THE NATURE OF THE OFFENSE, HOW INFLAMMATORY AND VOLATILE FACTS MAY BE.
UH, ANTICIPATE THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE WE LIKELY ARE GOING TO LOSE BECAUSE OF THE NATURE OF THE CASE AND ELIGIBILITY FOR PROBATION.
UH, I WOULD SAY IF WE GET ALL FOUR TRIAL COURTS CALLING PANELS IN AT THE SAME TIME, WE WOULD NEED TO SUM THEM, UH, 800 OR SO AT A TIME.
HOW WOULD THAT HAPPEN? WELL, WE RUN, MY COURT RUNS TWO JURY WEEKS A MONTH.
UH, MOST OF THE OTHER COURTS RUN TWO JURY WEEKS A MONTH.
SO, UH, IF WE ALL GET ON THE SAME PAGE, UH, YOU'D BE CALLING IN AT LEAST THOSE NUMBERS TWICE A MONTH AND MAYBE THREE TIMES A MONTH DEPENDING ON CASELOAD.
YES, I KNOW, UH, IF I MAY, THAT COMMISSIONER SHANE WANTED TO TABLE THIS AND I PROMISE THERE'S NO COORDINATION.
I DIDN'T KNOW YOU WERE GONNA BE HERE ON THE DOCKET, BUT, AND Y'ALL IN THE MIDDLE OF A VOTE, BUT I THINK IT'S ALSO IMPORTANT I PREPARED FOR MY PRESENTATION AFTER YOURS, THE ACTUAL CASE COUNT THAT YOU HAVE PENDING.
AND SO I JUST THINK IF, IF I DON'T WANT TO JUMP OUT OF LINE WITH WHAT YOU'VE GOT, BUT I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT PEOPLE UNDERSTAND THAT PENDING IN YOUR COURT, ASIDE FROM THE TWO CAPITAL CASES, YOU HAVE ABOUT 800 TO 900 FELONY CASES FROM THE BEGINNING WITH THE INDICTMENT, PRE INDICTMENT THROUGH THIS POSITION.
SO WITH THE AMOUNT OF CASES HE HAS, AND I JUST WOULD SHARE WITH THE COMMISSIONERS THAT THEY HAVE LOOKED AT THE FLIP SIDE OF THAT WITH THE AMOUNT OF WORK ON DEFENDING THOSE CASES.
BUT IN MOVING FORWARD ON THOSE CASES AND THE ADMINISTRATION OF JUSTICE AS THE COURT, HIS CASE COUNT IS VERY HIGH AND PART OF THAT IS GETTING THAT ADMINISTRATIVE WITH THE COORDINATOR.
AND I'M JUST, UH, I THINK A WORKSHOP IS GOOD TO GET MORE INFORMATION.
I'VE GOT SOME INFORMATION WITH THE ACTUAL CASES ATTACHED TO EACH COURT THAT'D LIKE TO LOOK AT THAT.
'CAUSE I KNOW YOU WERE GETTING READY TO LEAVE TO SHOW THE AMOUNT OF CASES BECAUSE FOR THE TOTAL FELONY CASES THERE ARE OVER 1700 CASES.
AND OF COURSE MY ISSUE WILL BE ITEM 10 IS TO DISCUSS THAT WITH FOUR ATTORNEYS HANDLING THAT YOU GUYS CAN DO MATH BETTER THAN Y ROAD.
SO YOU KNOW THAT THAT'S AN EXCESS OF 400 CASES, WHICH THOSE ARE BALLS IN THE AIR THAT SOMEBODY'S GONNA DROP.
AND AS IT PERTAINS TO THE JUDGE, THE ADMINISTRATION OF THOSE CASES PROBABLY IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THAN WE ANTICIPATED WHEN WE WENT THROUGH THE BUDGET SEASON IN THE SUMMER WITH YOU GENTLEMEN AS THE JUDGE AT THAT TIME, BOTH OF US, UH, WE HAD SOME SLOWDOWN AS IT RELATED TO THE TRAGEDY HERE AND SOME BACKUP.
BUT I BELIEVE THE CASE COUNT IS GONNA CONTINUE ALONG WITH THE CAPITAL CASES.
AND I DIDN'T KNOW YOU WERE COMING OVER JUDGE, BUT I JUST WANT, I HAVE THOSE NUMBERS AND THAT'S ACCORDING THING.
WE PRINTED IT, WHICH YOU MAY NOT HAVE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO.
I'VE GOT ACTUALLY LISTED OUT THOSE CASES I'D BE GLAD TO SHARE WITH ME.
BUT TO SAY THAT I CAN SUPPORT THAT ASSERTION NOT EVEN KNOWING YOU WERE HERE, THAT I DON'T KNOW HOW ONE PERSON IS GOING TO KEEP COURT GOING.
'CAUSE AS YOU DON'T KNOW, IF WE SLOW DOWN COURT, EVEN WITH THE MOST SERIOUS HEINOUS CAPITAL CASES GOING, I'LL TELL YOU THE NETWORK AMONG THE CRIMINAL ELEMENTS IS BETTER THAN THE WAY WE TALK ON OUR CELL PHONES.
AND WE STOP COURT BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE
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THE ADMINISTRATION OF JUSTICE.WE DO BORDER THE WORST SIDE OF DALLAS COUNTY AND THAT IS OUR DISTINCTION BETWEEN US AND HENDERSON AND HUNT.
WE ARE SIMILAR IN SIZE, BUT WE ARE CLOSE IN PROXIMITY TO, WHEN I WAS A DALLAS PROSECUTOR, WE GOT ALL OUR CASES FROM THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE COUNTY AND THAT IS WHAT WE ABUT AT 1 75 AND 80 AND THEY'RE NOT STOPPING.
WE HAVE ROGUES COMING HERE, WHICH I APPRECIATE Y'ALL HAVING EFFECTIVE ROADWAY, BUT PEOPLE IN THE CRIMINAL DRIVE AND THEY LIKE COMING OFF COUNTY AND I WANT TO SEND THE RIGHT MESSAGE THAT WE ARE ADOPTING TO THAT GROWTH.
AND I'M JUST SAYING THIS ISN'T MY PRESENTATION.
IT SURE JUDGE, AND I APOLOGIZE FOR STEPPING ON YOUR APPRECIATE THE HELP, BUT I JUST WANT YOU TO KNOW I'VE GOT THE NUMBERS WITH ACTUAL CASES SO IT'S NOT LIKE WE'VE JUST MADE IT UP.
AND IF YOU'D LIKE ME TO HAND THAT OUT, I WILL SHARE WITH YOU GUYS.
IF YOU HAND THAT OVER TO ME, KAREN, YOU'VE GOT THE CASES COUNT AND IT'S GIVING INFORMATION ABOUT I GOT ONE MORE.
LEMME JUST SAY, I THINK JUDGE WILD MAKES VERY EXCELLENT POINT AND THAT IS WHEN WE WERE DOING OUR BUDGET AND HE HAD NO IDEA THAT WE WERE GOING BE FACED WITH WHAT WE'RE FACING TODAY, UH, THREE MURDER CASES AND UH, THE ATTENDANT RESPONSIBILITY FOR DEALING WITH OUR REGULAR DOCKETS.
AND SO, UH, I THINK MY PROPOSAL IS VERY MODEST ONE TO BE HONEST WITH YOU.
AND UH, THIS WORK NEEDS TO BEGIN IN MARCH.
I'D HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE AUDITOR.
WE HAVE FUNDS THAT CAN BE MOVED TO MAKE THIS FROM THE, THE CONTINGENCY OR SOME OF THE ADDITIONAL RESULTS AND SAVINGS THAT WE HAD.
I HAVE THE MONEY IN THE CONTINGENCY LINE ITEM ALREADY, BUT I HAVE AN ADDITIONAL, UH, 105,000 TO MOVE TO THAT CONTINGENCY FOR SOME MONEY THAT WE SAVED ABOUT PAYING AT FRONT AND STUFF.
AND THE ESTIMATE I DID FOR WORKERS' COMP WAS WAY TOO HIGH AND WE HAD A SAVINGS THERE AND SOME ADDITIONAL GRANT WITH, UH, TIDC.
THE TEXAS COMMISSION IS SENDING US SOME ADDITIONAL GRANT MONEY.
UM, GOT THE LETTER, GOT THE AMOUNT.
I JUST NEED TO MOVE THAT MONEY TO THE CONTINGENCY TO SET IT UP SO IT'S RECEIVABLE.
SO THIS ADDITIONAL HUNDRED 5,000, IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, IS ADDITIONAL FUNDING THAT WE'VE RECEIVED SINCE THE BUDGET YEAR END.
OKAY, SO THE MONEY IS IN PLACE.
UH, WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR.
COMMISSIONER, MIND, EVERYBODY, I'M GLAD THAT PEOPLE ARE CONCERNED ABOUT FISCAL CONSTRAINTS.
UH, WE NEED TO LEAD BY EXAMPLE.
WE NEED WATCH WHAT WE'RE DONE.
I CAN TELL YOU THROUGH SEVEN YEARS OF DAY BUDGET WITH JUDGE CHINEY, HE HAS NEVER ASKED FOR ANYTHING.
UH, AND KNOWING WHAT HE DOES WITH THE MENTAL HEALTH COURTS, UH, THE ISSUE THAT HE'S GOT, UH, FOR US TO STAND 14, 15,000 BUCKS ON THIS THING IS A SMALL SLICE OF WHAT WE NEED TO, TO SUPPORT SUPPORT SYSTEM BECAUSE I KNOW HE'S NOT GONNA ASK FOR ANYTHING.
HE, HE DOES NOT MEAN OVER SEVEN YEARS HE LEADS BY EXAMPLE, WHICH WE NEED LEAD BY EXAMPLE.
AND I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT, JUDGE, I APPRECIATE THAT.
OTHER COMMENTS FROM ANYONE? JUDGE, I JUST WONDER, I DIDN'T REALIZE THAT YOU HAD A EIGHT TO 900 FEL CASES COMING UP.
UH, IF WE WORKSHOP THIS AND, UH, DON'T GRANT THIS TODAY, IS THAT GOING TO CAUSE THESE CASES TO START BACKING UP? IS THAT MY UNDERSTANDING? OH, IT ABSOLUTELY WOULD CAUSE 'EM BACK UP BECAUSE, UH, WHEN MY COORDINATOR STARTS HAVING TO WORK THESE AN IRONMAN FOR THE CAPITAL CASES, SHE'S NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO WORK MY CASELOAD.
AND I'LL ALSO POINT OUT PAM HERE, ASK ANOTHER QUESTION.
JUDGE, YOU GET PAM HERE JUST FOR A SECOND.
WE'RE APPLYING FOR A GRANT THAT PERHAPS WE'LL COVER SOME OF THIS OR WE'LL ASK TO SEE IF WE CAN GET A GRANT COVER.
THIS PERTAINS TO THIS, NOT THE MONEY, BUT Y'ALL DON'T REALIZE WHAT SOME OF THIS HAS CAUSED.
UH, ME AND MY ONE OF MY ASSISTANTS HAVE TO BE IN ROCKWELL ALMOST ALL DAY WEDNESDAY WITH THEIR COUNTY AUDITOR, THEIR COUNTY JUDGE, AND SOME OF THEIR PEOPLE IN THE COURT SYSTEM TO SET THIS UP.
SO I KNOW WHAT HOFFMAN COUNTY'S RESPONSIBLE TO PAY AND WHERE I'M GONNA GET THE MONEY FOR THIS IF IT'S PART OF THE GRANT, WHATEVER, VISITING WITH THE SHERIFF ON THE KEEPING SYSTEM, HE'S ALSO HAVING TO GO TO ROCKWALL AND MEET WITH THEIR SHERIFF AND LAW ENFORCEMENT.
SO THIS, THIS THING IS KIND OF SNOWBALLING AND HITTING ALL AREAS.
SO I JUST WANTED Y'ALL TO BE AWARE THAT WE'RE
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HAVING TO DO THINGS TOO.GO OUT OF TOWN TO VISIT, TO, TO MAKE THE MEETINGS, TO KNOW WHAT WE'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR PAY, WHAT PAM CAN GET IS FOR GRANTS TO HELP US.
RIGHT? SO I JUST, SORRY, I JUST WANTED TO LET Y'ALL KNOW.
THANK YOU FOR MENTIONING THAT COMMISSIONER.
OH YEAH, I JUST WANTED TO ASK THE JUDGE.
I SAID, COULDN'T YOU POSSIBLY MAYBE BORROW JUDGE TY COURT COORDINATOR THIS ALSO SINCE, UH, YOU DENNIS JONES TAKEN ON AFTER JUDGE'S CASES.
NOW WOULDN'T THAT BE A LITTLE HELP TO? WELL, UH, I DON'T WANT TO BUR JUDGE T'S, UH, STAFF WITHOUT HIS PERMISSION.
I'VE NOT TALKED TO HIM ABOUT THAT.
I WILL TELL YOU THAT ALL OF US SHARE, UH, OUR COORDINATORS AS NEED ARISES.
BUT I'M ASSUMING HE'S USING HIS STAFF FULL TIME OR HE WOULDN'T HAVE TWO PEOPLE UP THERE.
I'LL LET YOU TALK TO HIM ABOUT THAT.
BUT, UH, I WILL TELL YOU THAT MY STAFF HAS A SUBSTANTIAL ADDITIONAL WORKLOAD BEING DUMPED ON IT AND, UH, WE SIMPLY NEED THE ADDITIONAL TIME AND MAN HOURS IN ORDER TO MEET THE MEETING.
OKAY, ANY OTHER COMMENTS, QUESTIONS? WE HAVE A QUESTION ON THE FLOOR MOTION ON THE FLOOR TO, UH, TABLE THIS ACTION UNTIL WE HAVE A, UH, A WORKSHOP.
UH, ALL IN FAVOR OR ALL AGAINST THAT MOTION? UH, PLEASE SAY NO, NO, NO.
SO FUNDING WILL, UH, BE DIVIDED THROUGH THE, UH, UH, UH, OFFICE OF THE ARTICLE.
UH, COMMISSIONER, UH, SHANE AND COMMISSIONER ROSA? YES.
AND WE'RE GOING TO PROVIDE THAT.
AND SO WE'RE GOING BACK NOW TO VOTE OR TO DISCUSS IF WE CONTINUE TO NEED TO DO SO.
ITEM NUMBER NINE, APPROVING THIS.
AND SO WE HAVE FURTHER DISCUSSION CONCERNING SAME.
I APPROVED TOTAL 14,000, YOU SAID APPROXIMATELY 14 7 84 TO PROVIDE THE SERVICES, JUDGE.
SECOND WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER UH, CLARK AND A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION FROM ANYBODY? IS THE PRELIMINARY WORKSHOP GONNA BE TIED TO THIS? WE CAN DISCUSS IT AT THE WORKSHOP IF WE VOTE ON IT TODAY AND APPROVE IT, OF COURSE IT WOULD BE A, IT WOULD BE DONE.
BUT WE CAN CERTAINLY DISCUSS ANYTHING.
OR IS EVERYBODY IN FAVOR OF HAVING THE WORKSHOP TO DISCUSS, UM, THE ENTIRE YEAH.
COURT SITUATION? YEAH, OUR, MAYBE OUR JURY SELECTION THAT I, I'D ALSO, UM, LIKE TO SEE US DISCUSS OUR, UH, ATTORNEY'S FEE PAY SCHEDULE FOR
I'D LIKE THE JUDGE'S INPUT ON OTHER COUNTIES.
I HAVE PASSED THAT INFORMATION ALONG TO JUDGE WHO IS THE ADMINISTRATION.
WE HAVE TO MEET ANY TIME AND DISCUSS ANY OF THOSE ISSUES.
YEAH, EVERYTHING'S, WE'RE CONSTANTLY THINKING ABOUT OURSELVES AND SO, UH, YOU KNOW, JUDGE WILEY AND I HAVE TALKED ABOUT CENTRAL JURY ROOMS AND THE OTHER JUDGES HAVE TALKED ABOUT THAT.
UH, YOU KNOW, IF WE HAD ENOUGH SPACE AND FACILITIES TO DO THOSE THINGS, IT WOULD CERTAINLY MAKE OUR OPERATION MORE EFFICIENT.
WE JUST DON'T HAVE THE FACILITIES AT THE MOMENT, BUT WE CAN FIND THEM.
WE DISCUSSED THAT IN THE WORK.
AND I APPRECIATE, UH, EARLY INFORMATION HERE.
HAD WE HAD THIS BEFORE THE COMMISSIONER SUPPORT BEEN HELPFUL, IT WOULD'VE BEEN A LOT MORE INFORMED, A LOT MORE EDUCATED, YOU KNOW, DECISIONS.
BUT HAVING COME AFTER THE FACT IS DOESN'T GIVE US TIME TO STUDY.
SO I APPRECIATE THE INFORMATION.
YOU, WELL, LET, LET, JUST BRINGS IT TO LIGHT.
LET ME JUST SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, THIS IS A FAST MOVING PROCESS.
A LOT OF TIMES WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF ADVANCED INFORMATION OURSELVES, RIGHT? UH, WHEN IT, WHEN I BECAME AWARE TWO WEEKS AGO WHAT WAS ABOUT TO HAPPEN ON THE JURY, BUT OUR SITUATION, I IMMEDIATELY TALKED TO JUDGE WOOD AND I THINK THIS WAS THE FIRST COMMISSIONER'S SUPPORT MEETING SINCE I WAS MADE AWARE OF THE SITUATION.
SO, UH, I PUT IT ON YOUR AGENDA JUST AS QUICKLY AS I HAD KNOWLEDGE OF IT.
I I'M REFERRING TO THE INFORMATION DA PROVIDED IN COURT CASES.
OKAY? I HAD NO IDEA WE HAD THAT MANY FELONY CASES IN AND THIS
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BRINGS US UP TO STEAM.ONE OTHER COMMENT, I THINK WHAT YOU, UH, AND, AND OUR THINKING IS ON THIS IS THAT, UH, WE'RE FIXING TO START WORKING ON THIS BUILDING HERE AND WE DOWN TO THE SOUTH CAMPUS WITH, UH, WITH CENTRAL ROOM DOWN THERE, PARKING GO ON HERE, HERE AROUND US HERE ON SQUARE, THAT THE PEOPLE DOWN THERE WILL HAVE A WHOLE LOT EASIER PARKING AND GOING IN AND, AND AND SEE SEEING THE JUDGES AND THE COURT, UH, UH, LAURA OR UH, RODNEY HOOD, WHENEVER THEY HAVE TO COME AND UH, CHECK PEOPLE IN FOR JURY DUTY.
I THINK RIGHT NOW THAT'S KIND OF JUDGE.
I, I DON'T MEAN TO CURTAIL DISCUSSION, BUT I WANT TO BE SENSITIVE TO WHAT WE'RE POSTED FOR IN THE CONSIDERATION OF THAT.
AND EFFECTIVELY IT LOOKS LIKE YOU'RE SOME THE DATA ON FROM OTHER SUBJECTS THAT MAY BE PROPER IN THE FUTURE MEETING, BUT NOT, BUT KIND OF CONCERNING.
WE'RE EITHER APPEAR TO BE BUILDING A CONSENSUS.
ALRIGHT, THANK YOU FOR YOUR, I'M, I'M NOT SAYING IT'S, IT'S IMPROPER FOR A FUTURE DISCUSSION.
YEAH, IT'S, AND THAT'S SOMETHING I THINK WE'LL DO.
THAT BEING SAID, UH, WE WILL GET THAT SCHEDULED AS YOU KNOW, AS SOON AS WE CAN FIND THE CONVENIENT TIME FOR EVERYBODY.
WE HAVE SOME OTHER THINGS WE NEED YOU TO DISCUSS IN THE WORKSHOP AS WELL.
UH, BUT WE STILL GO BACK TO ITEM NUMBER NINE.
I BELIEVE WE HAD A MOTION AND WE, WE'VE NOT VOTED ON THE MOTION TO BE APPROVED.
UH, COMMISSIONER MANDY SECONDED THE MOTION.
THOSE OPPOSED? OKAY, I THE CHAIR BOTH.
SO WE'LL MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT AGREEMENT.
THANK WAS IT WAS THE SAME VOTE? YES MA'AM.
ITEM NUMBER 10 IS TO DISCUSS, TO CONSIDER APPROVING A PROSECUTOR SOFTWARE PACKAGE AND FUNDING FOR PERSONNEL.
THIS IS, UH, RELATED SOMEWHAT WHAT WE DISCUSSING.
JUDGE WHITE HAD ASKED ME ABOUT THIS LAST WEEK, SO WE PLACED IT ON THE AGENDA.
SO HERE WE'RE, IF I MAY, I I, AND I KNOW WE'VE GOT EVERYBODY CALLS COUNTY ATTORNEY, SO I SPEAK, BUT I THINK THE THINGS THAT COMMISSIONER SHANE AND COMMISSIONER ROSA ARE SPEAKING ABOUT ARE IMPORTANT FOR THE WORKSHOP AS FAR AS PLANNING THE MORE EFFECTIVE USE OF THE CASES THAT WE HAVE.
AND THAT'S IN MY COURT PACKET.
UH, AND I THINK THAT I'D LIKE TO DISCUSS THAT AS FAR AS AT ANOTHER TIME BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S INFORMATION WE TALK ABOUT WITH EACH OTHER SEPARATELY.
BUT AS COLLECTIVELY WE NEVER REALLY NEEDED TO DISCUSS HOW WE COULD DO THAT.
UM, COMING AFTER, UH, JUDGE TY'S REQUEST, I MIGHT SHOT MYSELF FOOT HELPING HIM, BUT THE INFORMATION THAT I BROUGHT WAS THE SEVEN SALARY.
ITS ALREADY TAB ONE THAT I PUT THERE IN THE PACKET I PUT TOGETHER FOR YOU GUYS, WHICH ALSO MADAM JUST PROVIDED TO YOU, MS. KAREN GAVE YOU THAT.
SO YOU ALREADY HAD THAT IN YOUR PACKET THAT WE FUND THIS IN MARCH.
YOUR QUESTION HAS TO BE, WHEN PEOPLE COME TO YOU IN THE MIDDLE OF YOUR BUDGET, WHY DID YOU PLAN FOR THIS AND WHY DIDN'T YOU DO THIS? BECAUSE YOU DON'T WANT, AND YOU GUYS HAVE, WHICH I APPRECIATE AS A TAXPAYER, CONSISTENTLY CONSISTENT ABOUT IF YOU'VE GOT AN EMERGENCY, WE'LL TAKE IT UP.
BUT IF YOU HAVE COURT PLANNING THAT CREATE AN EMERGENCY FOR YOU GUYS, I CAN APPRECIATE THAT.
AND DUCKTAILING WHAT JUDGE CHI SAID, I THINK I HAVE TO SAY WHAT HE SAID BUT FLIP IT A LITTLE BIT.
WHEN I GOT IN THIS JOB, I WOULD SAY THAT IT WAS MORE ON AN EMERGENCY BASIS.
AND WHEN WE WENT TO COMMISSIONER'S COURT, YOU GOTTA SHARE WITH ME AND YOUR CONVERSATION ABOUT OUR PREDECESSOR, MIKE, THAT HE HAD SAID THAT HE WANTED A COUPLE OF THE NEW ATTORNEYS AND STAFF.
AND MY POSITION AT THAT TIME WAS I DIDN'T KNOW ENOUGH.
I COULDN'T GO INTO A JOB EVEN IF I HAD HIS PRIOR NOTES AND KNEW THAT THAT'S WHAT HE WAS SLATED FOR, EVEN KNOWING THE CASE COUNT THAT IT WASN'T MAYBE QUITE AS HIGH AS WHEN I GOT THOSE.
AND LET'S BE, I WANT TO REFLECT THOSE NUMBERS ARE AS OF LIKE NOVEMBER, I HADN'T GOT A CURRENT, IT WAS FOR THE YEAR END.
SO SOME OF THOSE CASES ARE DISPOSED OF AND THERE'S ALSO NEW CASES IN PLACE OF THOSE.
'CAUSE YOU HAVE TO JUST MAKE A SNAPSHOT OF TIME.
AND I DID THAT BECAUSE I WANTED TO SEE WHERE MY PROSECUTORS WERE.
SO WHEN WE HAD BUDGET, I DIDN'T REALLY KNOW WHAT I HAD TO PUT MY ARMS AROUND AND I WASN'T GONNA ASK FOR SOMETHING IN ADDITION.
BUT IF JUDGE CHIN HAS POINTED OUT THIS, I MEAN BESIDES THE NUMBER OF CASES WHICH ARE UNBELIEVABLE, UM, TO ME COMING FROM THE DALLAS DA'S OFFICE, THAT'S AN UNBELIEVABLE AMOUNT OF CASES.
BUT I WANNA DISSECT THAT A LITTLE BIT 'CAUSE I DON'T WANT TO GIVE
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A A THIS IMPRESSION.IF YOU'RE IN A LARGER OFFICE, YOU'RE NOT GONNA HAVE ALL THE CASES ASSIGNED TO YOU IMMEDIATELY BECAUSE A LOT OF THOSE CASES ARE GONNA BE AN INTAKE, OKAY? AND SO YOU'RE GONNA BE WORKING THOSE CASES WHEN THE POLICE COME IN AND DECIDING WHAT TO FILE.
AND OUR OFFICE, WHEN YOU ARE AN OFFICER AND YOU COME TO OUR OFFICE, THAT'S OUR CASE AND IT'S IMMEDIATELY ASSIGNED TO A PROSECUTOR.
SO YOU GET THAT CASE FROM INCEPTION TO DISPOSITION.
AND SO THERE'S ABOUT 50 CASES THAT EVERY ATTORNEY'S WORKING AND HOPEFULLY ABOUT 50 THEY'RE GETTING RID OF.
BUT YOU HAVE PENDING FELONY CASES, SOME PEOPLE HAVE OVER 300 CASES, THERE'S 400 SOMETHING YOU'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR.
SO I WANNA MAKE YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS NUMBERS.
HOW YOU CAN HAVE PEOPLE COME IN TALKING ABOUT CASES AND THINGS GOING OUT THE DOOR.
I PUT THE MISDEMEANOR NUMBERS WHICH ARE ABOUT THE SAME AND THEY'RE HIGH TOO.
BUT I MEAN, LET'S BE HONEST, THE STAKES ARE NOT AS HIGH AS YOU HAVE ON FELONY CASE.
I JUST DON'T THINK THAT'S A GOOD CASE COUNT.
UM, FOR THE ATTORNEYS, I'M HELPING OUT ON CASES.
I HAVE MY ROLE AS MORE ADMINISTRATIVES AS Y'ALL KNOW.
IF THERE'S SOMEBODY OUT SICK, YOU GO DOWN AND YOU COVER.
IT'S NOT LIKE I'M JUST SITTING IN MY OFFICE AND NOT DOING WORK AND JUST DOING ADMINISTRATION.
EMERGENCY SITUATION OF COURSE IS THE FACT THAT WE'VE HAD UNFORTUNATELY THREE DIFFERENT, THE MIKE MCCLELLAN AND HIS WIFE AND THAT ERIC WILLIAMS CASE, THAT'S A PROBLEM.
AND OBVIOUSLY MARK, BUT NOW OUR OFFICE IS GONNA BE RESPONSIBLE FOR FIVE PEOPLE THAT WERE KILLED.
COMMISSIONER SHANE IN YOUR PRECINCT.
AND WE ARE GOING TO PROSECUTE THAT CASE AND THAT WILL TAKE AS WITHOUT BEING REPETITIVE, ALL THE RESOURCES IN OUR COUNTY.
THEY ARE NOT, THEY, AND I CAN'T SPEAK, PAM KNOWS MORE.
THEY ARE NOT GOING TO REIMBURSE US FOR A FIXED COST ON SOME OF THESE THINGS.
THEY'RE NOT GONNA, THEY'RE NOT GONNA PAY US FOR HAVING EXTRA PROSECUTOR.
IT'S HAPPENING IN YOUR COUNTY AND WE'RE GONNA PROSECUTE THE CASE AT THIS POINT TO THE FULLEST EXTENT OF THE LAW.
AND WHAT YOU DON'T SEE ARE ALL THE APPEALS THAT GO ON, ALL THE OTHER BUSINESS THAT GOES ON.
THE THING THAT KAREN SHARED WITH YOU ABOUT ON THE WILLIAMS CASE, EVEN THOUGH WE'RE NOT IN IT, UH, THE WORK THAT WE HAVE TO DO AND UNFORTUNATELY CRIME, IT'S HARD TO ALWAYS PLAN.
WE REACT TO WHAT THE CRIMINAL ELEMENT DOES.
THE QUESTION THAT I ASKED YOU GUYS IS THAT WE WANNA REACT IN SUCH A WAY THAT IT SENDS THE RIGHT AND A STRONG SIGNAL BASED ON THE INFORMATION YOU HAVE.
AND SO I, I GAVE YOU INFORMATION BECAUSE I WANT YOU TO HAVE IT, I WANT YOU TO SEE WHAT THE SEVEN MONTHS HOUR WOULD BE.
THAT ALSO INCLUDES THAT DISCOVERY CLERK THAT WE TALKED ABOUT THAT AS WELL.
BUT I WAS GONNA UPDATE YOU ABOUT THAT INFORMATION WHEN ME AND JOHN GAL WERE HERE FROM UH, TYLER TECHNOLOGY THAT GOES DOWN IN TAB FOUR.
SO THERE'S ACTUALLY TWO ITEMS AND I KNOW GEORGE IS HERE AND PREPARED TO SPEAK TO THAT, YOU GUYS.
THAT'S TWO ITEMS. THE SECOND WOULD BE ON THE SOFTWARE.
I WOULD TELL YOU THAT I KNOW THAT THE IT COMMITTEE PROBABLY KNOW MORE THAN I DO.
WHAT YOU HAD ASKED ME AS A PROSECUTOR AND I HAVE THOSE HANDOUTS FOR YOU, I JUST DIDN'T WANNA INUNDATE YOU IS YOU HAD ASKED ME TO GO BACK AND LOOK AT THIS ONE FUND 46 THAT WE HAD TALKED ABOUT OR FUND AND COULD WE USE THAT FUND FOR THAT TECHNOLOGY.
I HAVE ALSO PREPARED THAT IF YOU WANT TO LOOK AT IT AND MADE COPIES OF THAT FUND.
UH, IT WAS GIVEN AT, YOU KNOW, A TIME.
I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY THE AMOUNT NOW, BUT I CAN TELL YOU I'VE DONE THE RESEARCH, I'VE LOOKED AT IT, I'VE HAD JOHN'S INPUT, I'VE HAD
IT'S VERY CLEAR THOSE FEES CAN BE USED FOR RECORD MANAGEMENT AND PRESERVATION PURPOSES IN THE COUNTY AS REQUIRED.
NOW I WANNA MAKE SURE SOME OF THOSE ARE WITH THE COUNTY CLERK FEES.
I WAS SPEAKING OF FUND 46 AS A RECORD MANAGEMENT PRESERVATION FUND COMMISSIONER COURT JURISDICTION.
SO THOSE FUNDS ARE THERE AND THEY'RE AVAILABLE AND I'M JUST WANTING APPROVAL FOR THAT, FOR THE, FOR THE ATTORNEY SOFTWARE PACKAGE AS WELL.
AND HONESTLY THAT'S AN IT THAT IT CAN FIGURE OUT HOW TO WORK THAT WITHIN THE, THE BIGGER IT PACKAGE.
BUT I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING WE NEED TO GO AHEAD AND MOVE FORWARD.
THAT'S ALL I'VE GOT UNLESS YOU, I KNOW YOU GUYS PROBABLY HAVE QUESTIONS, JUDGE.
UH, THESE INTAKE CASES, AM I CORRECT AND AND I UNDERSTANDING THAT THEY HAVE NOT BEEN SIGNED TO YOUR, IN OTHER WORDS TO YOUR ATTORNEYS YET? THAT'S RIGHT.
SO EVERYTHING THAT COMES IN, HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE TO GET THEM SIGNED UP OR? WELL, IT JUST DEPENDS ON THE CASE.
SOME PEOPLE BRING IN A CASE THAT DAY AND THEN THAT CASE COMES IN THE SYSTEM.
THERE ARE SOME CASES QUICKLY THAT FELONY CASES BEFORE WE'RE CONTINUING OUR INVESTIGATION WHERE ME,
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I'M THE ATTORNEY, YOU COME IN, YOU BRING ME A CASE COMMISSIONER AND I SAY, OKAY LISTEN, WE'RE NOT GONNA TAKE THIS TO THE GRAND JURY.SO THERE'S DIFFERENT REASONS THAT IT MIGHT JUST BE FLOATING AND NOT ACTUALLY SENT TO THE GRAND JURY AND HAVE A NUMBER.
BUT AS YOU REMEMBER, WE, WE'VE CHANGED OUR NUMBERING SYSTEM AS WELL.
BUT I WANTED TO GIVE YOU A SNAPSHOT OF WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT.
THE ONLY WAY TO DO IT IS, IS TO PRINT OUT THE CASES SO YOU CAN SEE THAT I DIDN'T MAKE UP THOSE NUMBERS.
AND WHAT IS THE MTRA MOTION TO REVOKE A PERSON WHO'S BEEN PLACED ON COMMUNITY SUPERVISION.
AND THEN THEY HAVE FAILED TO COMPLY AND WE FILED A MOTION BASED ON THEIR FAILURE TO COMPLY ON PROBATION'S RECORDS AND THAT WILL ALSO BE SET FOR A HEARING AND THEY WILL BE REVOKED AND POTENTIALLY COULD BE REVOKED DEPENDING ON THE TESTIMONY THE JUDGE HEARS OR THEY COULD BE CONTINUING ON PROBATION.
BUT IT IS ANOTHER CASE ACTIVITY THAT THAT CASE IS GONNA DO.
AND WHAT IS PENDING MEANS THAT IT IS NOT FINALLY DISPOSED OF A, A FINAL DISPOSITION ON A CRIMINAL CASE WILL OCCUR EITHER IN A PLEA AGREEMENT OR WILL BE IN A TRIAL FOR THE COURT OR TRIAL BEFORE THE JURY.
IN OTHER WORDS, THESE PENDING CASES THERE, THEY HAVE BEEN INDICTED.
THEY HAVE BEEN INDICTED, BUT THEY ARE NOT RESOLVED.
AND AGAIN, THAT WAS AT THE TIME THAT THAT REPORT WAS RUN.
DOES THIS ALSO INCLUDE WHAT'S IN THE PUBLIC DEFENDER'S OFFICE OR NOT? OKAY.
OBVIOUSLY THE PUBLIC DEFENDER'S OFFICE IS WITHIN ALL THE CASES OF PROSECUTOR.
SO THE, THE PUBLIC DEFENDERS HAVE CASES WITHIN THE ENTIRE CASELOAD.
WE OBVIOUSLY, AS YOU KNOW FROM LISTENING THEIR NUMBER AND OURS, WE'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR EVERYTHING IN TERMS OF WHATEVER CASES ARE BROUGHT BY ALL THE LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES IN THE COUNTY.
SO THE CASE COUNT NUMBER, IT DOESN'T MATTER, WE JUST HAVE TO FIGURE OUT A WAY TO HANDLE IT.
SO THEY'RE WITHIN THAT AS WELL AS UM, PRIVATE ATTORNEYS OR ATTORNEYS THAT ARE APPOINTED THROUGH OUR TIVE DEFENSE.
AND SO THAT INCLUDES ALL THE CASES THAT WE ARE PROSECUTING HANDLING THAT OBVIOUSLY, I JUST MAKE A NOTE THAT DOESN'T INCLUDE THE JP CASES, WHICH WE ALSO HAVE TO COVER.
AS YOU WILL KNOW, THAT DOESN'T INCLUDE THE JUVENILE CASES WHICH WE HAVE TO COVER.
THAT DOES NOT INCLUDE THE CHILD PROTECTIVE SERVICES CASES THAT OUR OFFICE HAS TO COVER.
THOSE ARE ALL CASES THAT WE HAVE TO COVER, PROSECUTE, MANAGE.
I JUST WISH IT JUST GOTTA BE TOO MUCH TO PRINT.
ALL Y'ALL THOUGHT I WAS MAKING THAT SO I JUST STOPPED PHONE.
WELL, I APPRECIATE YOU SAYING YES SIR.
UH, WE HAD TWO SEPARATE ISSUES HERE.
OKAY, NOW THE FUND 46 THAT'S UNDER CONTROL OF COMMISSIONER'S, COURT OF PRESERVATION, COULD IT BE USED TO PAPER BOTH THESE ISSUES OR JUST THE SOFTWARE ISSUE? JUST THE SOFTWARE ISSUE? WE COULD JUST THE SOFTWARE.
WHAT'S GONNA BE THE RECURRING CAUSE OF THAT SOFTWARE? YOU KNOW, GEORGE COULD PROBABLY TELL YOU THAT BECAUSE THAT WHAT I HEARD YOU WAS THE ON PREMISES WITH US RIGHT NOW GOING IN AND DOING THIS.
I TALKED TO GEORGE AND SOME OF THE IT FOLKS AND A SOFTWARE SERVICE MODEL WHERE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT CLOUD.
I DON'T WANT TO GET TO ALL THOSE ESTIMATES 'CAUSE THEY'RE BEYOND WHAT I CAN DO.
THIS IS I IMPLEMENTING AND UNDERSTAND SOME OF THESE COSTS.
WERE ALREADY, UH, HAVING USER FEES ALREADY THAT YOU GUYS PAY FOR ALREADY WITH OTHER THE IT THIS IS ADDING THAT ADDITIONAL PIECE WITH THE ATTORNEY PACKAGE.
AND I'LL REMIND YOU THAT WE HAVE THE LICENSE FOR, BUT THAT IS CHARGING FOR THE USER FEE FOR ON-PREMISES TO, FOR ALL THE PEOPLE IN MY OFFICE TO USE THE ATTORNEY PACKAGE THAT WE ALREADY HAVE LICENSED.
AND WHAT THE REASON THAT I'M REALLY KEEN ON GOING TO IT IS AFTER TALKING TO SOME OTHER FOLKS, WE REALIZE THAT WE ARE WASTING TIME BECAUSE WE ARE USING THE CASE MANAGEMENT COURT SYSTEM THAT'S DESIGNED FOR THE CLERKS AND THE COURT'S OFFICE.
THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT IN YOUR PRIOR ADMINISTRATION HAD BOUGHT THAT ATTORNEY PACKAGE, BUT IT NEVER IMPLEMENTED IT.
I DON'T KNOW WHY, BUT IT WOULD HELP US HANDLE THE DISCOVERY ISSUES, WHICH I DON'T WANNA BORE Y'ALL WITH Y'ALL.
WE HEARD ME WHY ABOUT HOW EVERYBODY IN THE, IN THE STATE HAVING TO COMPLY WITH THIS, IF WE HAD AN ATTORNEY PACKAGE, IT WOULD FACILITATE THAT.
AND WE NEED A SEVERAL PERSON TO DO THAT.
I MEAN WE, WE ARE JUST BEHIND BECAUSE THESE ARE THESE UNFUNDED LAWS THAT WE HAVE TO COMPLY.
WE HAVE TO PRODUCE THE DISCOVERY TO ATTORNEYS AND WE'RE DOING IT THE OLD FASHIONED WAY.
WE'RE ACTUALLY PRINTING AND BLACKING 'EM OUT AND THEN PRODUCING THE PAPER AS OPPOSED TO BEING ABLE TO PUSH THAT THROUGH WITH, UH, SENDING IT TO PEOPLE USING EMAIL AND, AND DIFFERENT SOFTWARE SYSTEMS. SO THIS WOULD ELIMINATE QUITE A BIT OF WORK TIME.
IT'S GONNA ELIMINATE WORK TIME BECAUSE YOU'RE HAVING PEOPLE AND, AND AGAIN, I MEAN YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU DON'T KNOW.
WHEN YOU TAKE OVER SOMETHING IN MIDSTREAM AS I DID, YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU DUNNO.
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I DO KNOW IT AND IT'S INCUMBENT ON ME.ULTIMATELY IT'S YOUR VOTE TO DECIDE, BUT IT WOULD DO A DISSERVICE TO THE CITIZENS OF THE COUNTY.
AND MY JOB IS TO PROTECT THEM AND TO BE THE BEST LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER I CAN BE.
AND NOW THAT I KNOW THAT WE'RE BEHIND ON THESE THINGS, I HAVE TO BRING IT TO ALL'S ATTENTION.
IT WOULD BE, I WOULD BE REMISS IF I DIDN'T.
AND NOW THAT I KNOW THESE THINGS ARE NOT IN PLACE AND WE HAVE ALL THESE CASES AND I'M COVERING AND OTHER PEOPLE ARE COVERING, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, NEXT THING YOU KNOW, WE'LL HAVE JOHN DOING A CRIMINAL DOCUMENT.
COMMISSIONER HAS A QUESTION FOR YOU.
DID THIS, UH, THAT TEAM COMMITTEE ALREADY BID ALL THIS OUT? SO YES AND NO.
THERE ARE TWO UNRELATED ISSUES.
SO 10 YEARS AGO WE, YES, I'M NOT EVEN AN ATTORNEY.
THAT'S WHY I WANNA SEE YOUR CREDENTIALS ATTORNEY, I THOUGHT WAS, THE REALITY IS, 10 YEARS AGO WE BOUGHT PROSECUTOR.
SO WHAT WE'RE, THERE'S TWO ISSUES HERE.
ONE IS TO IMPLEMENT AND GO LIVE WITH THE PROSECUTOR TO ELIMINATE ALL THE SOFT COSTS THAT WE ARE CONCERNED WITH.
NOW TODAY, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T CONSIDER THE SOFT COST OF MANAGING AND HANDLING PAPER AND DO THINGS THAT, UH, JUDGE WILEY HAS TALKED ABOUT THE LAST 10 OR 20 MINUTES.
WE'RE GONNA TRY TO GET RID OF THAT PROBLEM BY GOING LIVE WITH PROSECUTOR.
THE LARGER ISSUE IS DO WE DO PREMISE OR DO WE DO PREMISE, OR DO WE DO CLOUD? EVERYBODY KNOWS WE'VE PREACHED SOCIAL, MOBILE CLOUD IS THE WAY THE WORLD IS GOING AND THE BEST BANG FOR YOUR BUCK FOR IT EXPENSE, PEOPLE THAT WORK FOR THE IT DEPARTMENT OR WHATEVER IS TO GO CLOUD IS TO GO HOST IT.
SO UNTIL WE SIT OUT AND MAKE A DECISION AS TO WHETHER WE'RE GONNA GO PREMISE OR CLOUD, WE CAN'T GIVE YOU A DEFINITIVE ANSWER.
BUT WE, WHAT WE DO KNOW IS WE OWN PROSECUTE AND WE DO KNOW THAT THEIR COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH GO LIVE AND AND MAINTENANCE.
THIS A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS IS TO DO WHAT WITH, WE'RE PAYING 101,000 TO SUPPORT THE PREMISE INSTALL WE HAVE FOR THAT.
AND THAT'S WHAT, AND THAT'S THE ONLY THING I COULD ASK FOR BECAUSE WITH GEORGIA SANTA IS THAT TO DO, TO GO WITH WHAT THE CLOUD SERVICE MODEL IS.
BUT WE NEED, AND WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS.
NOW, I THINK THAT A BIGGER ISSUE THAN ME, THAT IS AN IT.
AND LIKE YOU GUYS TALK ABOUT A WORKSHOP AND SIT DOWN, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT I CAN DO THE SOFTWARE FOR MY OFFICE RIGHT NOW AND HOW THAT FITS IT.
IF, IF GEORGE AND IT SITS DOWN AND GOES, OKAY, WELL WE'VE GOT HER A HUNDRED THOUSAND PIECE THAT WE CAN PAY FOR OUR FUND, 46, BUT HEY, WE MIGHT GO WITH THIS, THE CLOUD, WELL THAT'S GONNA BRING THE COST DOWN, NOT UP.
THIS IS THE MOST OF THE COST FROM WHAT I'VE UNDERSTOOD.
IF WE GO ON PREMISE, GEORGE AND THE OTHER IT COMMITTEE PEOPLE WILL TALK TO YOU GUYS IN THE FUTURE ABOUT, HEY, IS THIS HOW WE WANT TO GO? WE WANT TO GO AHEAD AND CHANGE.
I'M JUST ASKING FOR MY PIECE BECAUSE IT'S, IT'S BEYOND MY DECISION MAKING, WHAT TO DO FOR THE ENTIRE COUNTY AND WHAT Y'ALL WANNA DO FOR THE COUNTY COMPUTER SYSTEM THAT'S GONNA AFFECT EVERY AGENCY AND HOW WE WORK.
ISN'T THAT FAIR? WELL, AND THE ANSWER THAT THE COMMISSIONER'S QUESTION, I KIND OF DODGED THAT.
THE ANSWER IS WE'VE OWNED IT, WE'VE OWNED IT FOR 10 YEARS AND EVERY TIME, EVERY TIME WE'VE HAD A NEW CHANGE OF OFFICE IN UDA, WE HAVE BROUGHT THE GROUP TO TYLER UP IN, UP IN, UH, PLANO AND WE'VE GENERAL PRO AND WE, WE DID IT WITH ED WALTON, WE DID IT WITH MIKE.
AND THERE WAS PUSHBACK AND IT IT JUST TO WHERE THE FOLKS DID NOT WANT TO GO LIVE WITH PROSECUTOR.
AND TODAY WE HAVE A DA, NOW WE HAVE, WE HAVE A DA THAT SEES THE REASON FOR DOING IT, SEES THE REASON FOR CUTTING EXPENSE TO TRAIN COSTS BY GOING OUT TO PROSECUTOR.
WHAT, WHAT DOES IT COST US IN THE LAST 10 YEARS TO HAVE THIS PROGRAM? SO WE, FIRST OF ALL, NOTHING WE PURCHASED TO OWN PROSECUTOR ZERO.
WE, WE, WE PURCHASED IT 10, ZERO COST, ZERO COST.
WE DIDN'T, WE DIDN'T GO LIVE WITH IT.
SO THE ONLY TIME WE PAID LICENSING AND IMPLEMENTATION FEES IS GONNA GO ON.
SO IT WAS, WE HAD A, WE JUST STOPPED.
AND ANOTHER THING YOU HAVE TO REMEMBER, AND I DIDN'T KNOW THIS 'CAUSE I ASKED THOSE QUESTIONS TO THE COMMISSIONER ROSA GAS, WAS IT, THEY HADN'T EVEN FULLY DEVELOPED IT AT THAT TIME.
SO THEY, THEY, IT WAS EASY FOR THEM TO GIVE IT OR, OR LICENSE IT.
'CAUSE ACTUALLY THEN IT WAS PROSECUTOR, NOW IT'S ACTUALLY ATTORNEY PACKAGE AND YOU COULD HAVE A PIECE FROM THE PUBLIC DEFENDER ITEM.
I'M NOT ASKING FOR THAT BECAUSE THAT'S NOT BEEN MY PURVIEW TO, TO, I THINK THE SOFT CAUSE IS WHAT IS REALLY WHAT GEORGE IS TALKING ABOUT TO GO ONLINE WITH THIS.
I AM JUST TELLING YOU GUYS RIGHT NOW TO COMPLY WITH THE MARTIN MILLER ACT AND TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE THIS DISCOVERY, I BELIEVE THAT THESE
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FUNDS THAT WE HAVE SET UP ARE FOR RECORDS MANAGEMENT AND THE PRESERVATION DOCUMENTS AND TO DO THE THINGS TO MODERNIZE SYSTEMS. SOMETHING WE WANNA DO.I MEAN, BECAUSE IF NOT, WHAT WE'RE GONNA HAPPEN IS WHEN WE GET TO AND SAY, WELL, YOU KNOW WHAT, I NEED TWO MORE STAFF PEOPLE TO DO THIS WORK.
I CAN'T TELL YOU HOW THIS WORKS IN THE ENTIRE IT SYSTEM THAT'S GONNA BE FOR GEORGE.
BUT I WANTED TO HAVE Y'ALL'S APPROVAL TO GO FORWARD FOR MY PIECE.
AND IF WE COME BACK AND AMEN THAT AND SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT, WE, WE CAN'T DO HER PIECE UNTIL WE DO THE WHOLE THING.
I'LL COME BACK AND TELL YOU THAT TOO.
SO BACK ON THE TYLER PROPOSAL ON THE BEHIND TAB FOUR.
AND THIS IS THE FUND THAT YOU AND JOHN AND THE OTHERS HAVE LOOKED AT.
THIS IS THE COMMISSIONER'S FUND.
AND I HAVE THAT THIS CAN BE USED FOR THIS PURPOSE.
SO WHAT EXACTLY IS THE COST THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT? WELL, THE, THE COST THAT I ATTACHED TO THAT WAS THE HUNDRED TAB 4 1 0 3, 1 0 3 UHHUH.
AND THAT WILL DO THE, THE PATENT THAT WILL OKAY, WELL YOU SEE SO MANY PAPERS, YOU GET TIRED OF IT.
AND THESE ARE MY NOTES BECAUSE IT WAS FROM A MEETING THAT I HAD.
SO I'VE GOT THE STUFF CIRCLED, DON'T PAY ATTENTION TO IT.
AND EVERYBODY SHOULD REMEMBER, THIS IS NOT THE GENERAL FUND.
THIS IS THE SPECIAL FUND THAT WE'VE HAD SET ASIDE FOR YEARS AND SPENT VERY, VERY LITTLE FROM, I MEAN, IT'S BEEN ADDED UP.
AND THESE ARE PAID BY FEES THAT PEOPLE, WHENEVER THEY GO THROUGH THE COURT SYSTEM, UH, PAID.
SO, UH, I GUESS MY QUESTION TO THE AUDITOR IS, UH, UH, WE DO HAVE THE FUNDS AVAILABLE FOR THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT IN FUND 46.
AND YOU'RE COMFORTABLE THAT IT WOULD, BASED ON WHAT YOU'VE BEEN TOLD BY THE ATTORNEYS, THAT IT'S LEADING EXPENDITURE.
UH, SO THAT'S, THAT'S ONE ISSUE.
THE OTHER ISSUE BACK ON THIS DISCUSSION IS APPROVING THE ADDITIONAL, UH, FELONY, UH, PROSECUTOR, FILING PROSECUTOR FOR THE REST OF THE YEAR.
I'M, I'M, I'M MOVING PEOPLE AROUND, BUT I NEED A FELONY PROSECUTOR.
ARE YOU FULL STAFFED NOW? UH, NO.
AND THE ATTORNEY WISE, I HAVE SOMEBODY, UH, LEFT, UH, A STAFF PERSON LEFT ABOUT, UH, TWO OR THREE WEEKS AGO AND THAT'S GONNA BE BILLED.
UM, WE GOT INTERVIEWS NEXT WEEK FOR THIS WEEK.
BUT ATTORNEY WISE, YOU'RE, YOU'RE, YEAH, I'M, I MEAN, I'M, I'M FULL.
UH, SO THAT WOULD BE MY QUESTION BECAUSE YOU'RE ADDING TWO ADDITIONAL PEOPLE.
YOU KNOW WHAT, THEY'RE JUST, WE, WE GOTTA DO THE WORK.
THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO PUT THE TWO MISDEMEANOR PEOPLE IN AN OFFICE TOGETHER AND THEY'RE GONNA JUST HAVE TWO OFFICES IN THERE.
THAT'S WHAT WE, I MEAN, I, I'M NOT OLD ENOUGH.
I DIDN'T WORK IN GEORGIA ISLAND.
THEY HAD ALREADY BUILT A NEW COURT BUILDING.
BUT THAT'S WHAT YOU HAVE TO DO.
I MEAN, WE DON'T HAVE COURT BUILDING.
SO IF THE COURT APPROVES THESE TWO ADDITIONAL PEOPLE FOR THIS, THE REMAINDER OF THIS BUDGET YEAR, OF COURSE SURE.
UH, NEED TO BE BUDGETED FOR THE NEW BUDGET YEAR.
AND HOPEFULLY WE'RE NOT GONNA HAVE ANY MORE CAPITAL MURDER CASES.
YOU KNOW, THAT WE ALL KNOW THAT CAN CHANGE AL.
AND SO, UM, THIS WOULD GET YOU WHOLE AS FAR AS BEING ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE BACKLOG OF CASES THAT YOU CURRENTLY HAVE IN YOUR OFFICE AS WELL.
RIGHT? BECAUSE YOU REMEMBER WHAT JUDGE CHI, I'M NOT SAYING HE DIDN'T EXPLAIN IT.
WELL, NOT ONLY IS HE TAKING, I, NOT ONLY IS HE TAKING ON THAT ADDITIONAL ROLE, WE ACTUALLY NOW ARE REALLY USING COUNTY COURT OF LAW WHERE I WAS BEFORE DOING FELONY CASES.
SO YOU REALLY KIND OF NEED, YOU HAVE TWO PEOPLE IN THERE PICKING AT LEAST ONE AND THEN TO CONTINUE TO RUN THOSE CASES.
SO SOMETIMES WE MIGHT HAVE THREE FELONY CASE CASES GOING.
COURTS GOING, I MEAN IT'S DIFFERENT JUDGE TY IF Y'ALL KNOWS NOT RUNNING AGAIN.
SO HE'S SLOWING DOWN A LITTLE BIT.
SO WE'RE SHIFTING THE WORK AROUND.
JUDGE, CAN YOU EXPLAIN, UH, TO ME AND THE PEOPLE IN THE CROWD, WHAT THE DANGER IS, IS TO US AS FAR AS IF BACKLOG OF CASES BUILDS UP SURE.
HE IN IT, YOU DON'T WANT TO SEEM DRAMATIC.
BECAUSE IT'S, YOU DON'T WANT SEEM DRAMATIC OR THE MOST MISDEMEANOR CASES WHEN THEY START OUT ARE EITHER PEOPLE, AND I SAW THIS AS A PROSECUTOR IN DALLAS, EITHER BEGINNING THEIR CRIMINAL ACTIVITY OR MAYBE BAD LUCK OR DONE THE JP PEOPLE IS FINE.
BUT WHEN YOU HAVE FELONY CASES AND YOU'RE HAVING PEOPLE THAT CAN BE SENTENCED TO TIME IN THE PENITENTIARY, THEY'RE SERIOUS OFFENSES.
AND IF THOSE CASES GO UNCHECKED AND PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY KNOW WE CAN'T GET TO THEIR CASES.
ONE, WE ALSO, IF THEY'RE IN CUSTODY IN JAIL, IT'S GONNA CREATE A BACKLOG IN THE JAIL.
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ABOUT THEY'RE OWN BOND, THEN THEY'RE WALKING AROUND A BOND AND THEY'RE NOT GETTING IN COURT.I DON'T WANNA SEEM LIKE CREATE ANY PANIC.
I WANT AN ATTORNEY COMES IN AND SAYS HE WANTS TO GO TO TRIAL.
I WANNA HAVE A DAY THAT'S READY AND PREPARED FOR THOSE CASES.
I COULD NOT ME PERSONALLY BE PREPARED ON 400 CASES.
WHY AM I GONNA ASK SOMEBODY ELSE I'M NOT GOING TO WITHOUT COMING TO Y'ALL? THEN I CAN SAY I ASKED.
THEY SAID, NO, I'M YOUR COMMISSION.
I MEAN, I'M JUST TELLING YOU THAT'S WHAT IT'S ABOUT.
BECAUSE IT IS A SAFETY ISSUE AT A POINT AND IT IS A, WHERE YOU'RE JUST PUSHING PEOPLE THROUGH THE SYSTEM AND RESETTING CASES.
WHEN I CAME TO KAUFMAN COUNTY AND WAS ELECTED, WE HAD SOME OF THOSE PROBLEMS. WE HAD PEOPLE TAKE TO JAIL AND RUN BACK.
WE HAD DIFFERENT PEOPLE AND AS WE CAME IN AND MADE SOME CHANGES MORE EFFECTIVE, AND NOW WE'RE AT ANOTHER POINT, WE NEED TO STEP UP.
WE MOVING THESE CASES AND WE'RE, WE'RE GONNA DO IT AS EFFECTIVELY CAN.
IT WON'T BE MY OFFICE THAT'S NOT MOVING CASES.
KAREN? UH, I ANY REQUEST THAT WE HAVE FROM, UH, JUDGE WILEY FOR THESE TWO ADDITIONAL PEOPLE, WE'RE LOOKING AT A SEVEN MONTH COST OF 78.
UH, THAT WOULD BE FOR THE REMAINDER OF THIS, THIS BUDGET YEAR.
UH, WHERE ARE WE ON THE, UH, AVAILABILITY TO DO THAT? WE HAVE TO TAKE IT FROM THE CONTINGENCY.
I HAVE NO OTHER MONIES TO MOVE AROUND.
WE HAVE APPROXIMATELY HOW MUCH LEFT IN THE CONTINGENCY FUND? UM, WELL, ACCORDING TO MY FIGURES WITH WHAT JUDGE CHI? THE 14,000 FOR JUDGE CHI PLUS THE 78 8 81.
WELL THE 105 IS MONEY BALANCE BEFORE, YEAH, IT WAS, THE BALANCE BEFORE WAS 306,000.
SO WE'RE REALLY NOT GETTING INTO THE CONTINGENCY.
WHAT WE'RE DOING IS USING THE EXTRA MONEY THAT WE SAVE BY WORKING HARD WITH WORKERS' COMP.
WE'VE, UH, WE'VE HEARD BOTH OF THESE ITEMS. DO WE HAVE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THE COURT? I HAVE A QUESTION.
UH, WITH OUR PEOPLE, YOU'RE GONNA NEED, YOU'RE GONNA NEED DESK CHAIRS, COMPUTERS AND PHONES.
WHO THOUGHT HOW, HOW MUCH THAT'LL COST HIM? I HAVE NOT.
I THINK, UM, PARTICULARLY IF WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO BUMP IN THE NUMBER MISDEMEANOR PEOPLE, I WOULD LIKE THE FELONY PEOPLE HAVE THEIR OWN OFFICE AND SO I'LL MOVE THEM UP.
WE'LL, PROBABLY LOOKING AT A PHONE AND A COMPUTER AT LEAST MAYBE TWO, BUT AT LEAST ONE.
CAUSE LIKE THAT JACK, UH, FAIRLY AGGRESSIVE.
YEAH, I HADN'T THOUGHT ABOUT THAT JUDGE.
I'D JUST LIKE TO ADD NOT SURE OF THAT.
ON THE PROCUREMENT SIDE, ON THE SOFTWARE SINCE OVER 50,000, UH, IN MY OPINION, I I VIEW THAT AS A SOLE SOURCE BECAUSE IT HAS TO WORK WITHIN THE INTEGRITY OF CURRENT SOFTWARE.
SO THAT THAT'S, THAT'S EXEMPT FROM BEING IT OUT.
WHAT ABOUT THE ADDITIONAL, UH, MUCH OFFICE EQUIPMENT AND THINGS LIKE THAT THAT SHE MAY NEED.
UM, I'LL HAVE TO PULL THAT NUMBER TOGETHER TO RECYCLE.
IT'S BEEN PRETTY MINIMAL FOR A PHONE AND MIGHT BE A COMPUTER BECAUSE IT'S ONE PERSON.
WE ARE, WE'RE JUST NOT SPENDING MONEY IN NEW COMPUTERS ANYMORE.
KNOW THE WORLD CHANGE, WE'RE BUYING REFU, REFURB, IT'LL BE OKAY UNDER A THOUSAND OR A THOUSAND PERSON.
YEAH, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ONE PERSON AND THEN THE OTHER PERSON.
WE HAD COVERED NO, I APPRECIATE YOU ASKING 'CAUSE I DIDN'T, I DON'T THINK LIKE THAT AND THAT'S GOOD.
I'M JUST TRYING TO GET THE PERSONNEL AND YOU'RE RIGHT, THEY'RE GONNA NEED ALL THAT STUFF.
UH, AGAIN TO DISCUSS, CONSIDER APPROVING A PROSECUTOR SOFTWARE PACKAGE.
UH, THEY WOULD BE PAID FROM UH, ONE, UH, FUND 46 AND THE AMOUNT OF WHAT WE SAY A HUNDRED TWO SIXTY FIVE ONE THREE TWO SIXTY FIVE.
AND THE FUNDING FOR THE PERSON, WHICH WOULD BE WHAT WE'VE JUST HEARD, THE 78 BE FOR ADDITIONAL SECRETARY AS WELL AS A FELONY PROSECUTOR FOR THE REMAINDER OF THIS.
COMMISSIONER ON THE, UH, SERVICES ON THIS TYLER PROGRAM.
UH, PROJECT SERVICES, 54,400 TECHNICAL SERVICES AND THEN IMPLEMENTATION SERVICES OF 34,000 4 72.
HOW MUCH IS THAT GONNA BE, UH, YEAR AFTER YEAR? I, I'M SURE IMPLEMENTATION
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WOULD NOT BE NEXT YEAR, BUT IT WOULD NOT.THIS IS, THAT'S THE ONE TIME SETUP UP BECAUSE OF THE SET UP, THE BIGGER CONSULT, INITIAL TRAINING GO LIVE AND THEN FOLLOW UP.
AND THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT THE FOLLOW UP FOR THE GO LIVE.
SO YOU'RE RIGHT THAT 34 IS CUT OUT.
BUT WHAT WOULD BE CONSISTENT, BECAUSE I'M WANNA MISREPRESENT IS ALWAYS HAVING THAT, UH, USER FEED FOR THAT.
SO YOU'RE RIGHT THAT 34 WOULD BE OUT AND SO NEXT YEAR WE CAN LOOK FORWARD TO THE PROJECT SERVICES AMOUNT AND MAYBE THE TECHNICAL SERVICES, UNLESS WE CHOOSE TO GO WITH A HOSTED OR CLOUD BASED
IT'S LESS, IT CAN ALSO FORECAST FIVE YEARS COST COMMISSIONER, I JUST WANNA BE CLEAR.
THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING I TEED BESIDES, BUT I'M JUST TALKING ABOUT, FOR ME THAT'S A BIGGER, LARGER DECISION.
YEAH, THAT'S PROBABLY SOMETHING WE DO IN WORKSHOP.
WHAT IS, WHAT IS THE RECURRING COST ON THIS APPROXIMATELY? I THINK IT'S EVERYTHING.
IF WE SAY WITH THIS MINUS WHAT, UM, JIMMY COMMISSIONER OFFICE POINTED OUT, WHICH IS THAT INITIAL SETUP, WHICH IS AROUND 34 TO 35, AND THEN YOU ARE PAYING FOR THE USER, SO ABOUT 70 GRAND A YEAR.
BECAUSE YOU'RE DIVIDING AMONG YOUR USERS.
AND WE MIGHT GO DOWN LESS THAT ABOUT RIGHT.
THINK SO WE'RE PAYING 101 RIGHT NOW FOR MAINTENANCE FOR EVERYTHING.
I NOTE THAT THE, AND I'M GLAD WE COULD USE THAT FUND 46 FOR SOME USE IN THE KANSAS STATE SITTING IN THE BACK ONE QUARTER OF ONE HALF, THREE.
AND IT INCREASES REVENUE LOOK LIKE FROM 32 TO 37,000 A YEAR.
AND IF WE SPEAK UP THE CASE MIGHT, I, I WANTED TO ADD SOMETHING OF WHAT COMMISSIONER CLARK JUST SAID WAS THAT FUND 46 IS, IS NOT TAXPAYER DOLLARS.
SO 103,000 IS, IS MOVING MONEY OVER THAT'S COLLECTED NOT FROM TAXPAYERS, BUT CIVIL LAWSUITS.
AND THE WAY THAT ALL THE STATUTES READ ABOUT THE FUNDS, AND IT'S JUST FOOD FOR
SO ANYTIME YOU HAVE PROPOSALS THAT COME BEFORE YOU AND YOU'RE THINKING, HOW DO WE USE THE PHONE? IF YOU'RE BUYING TECHNOLOGY, THE STATUTE AND THE ATTORNEY GENERAL'S OPINION SEEMS TO FAVOR THAT MORE PEOPLE FOR HERE YEAH.
YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THEY, THOSE ARE QUESTIONS FOR PEOPLE WHO WANTED TO PAY FOR SALARIES FOR PEOPLE THOSE FUNDS.
AND THEY LET THEM DO IT, BUT THAT WASN'T WHAT THEY, THEY DID.
THERE'S A SPECIFIC ALLOCATION.
YEAH, BUT IT'S ALMOST ALWAYS GOOD IF IT'S WRONG TECHNOLOGY, WE COULD, WE PAY FOR THE PERIOD.
I KNOW, BUT WE CAN WE'LL LOOK AT IT BACK HERE BECAUSE ANYTIME YOU TAKE MONEY OUTTA THAT FUND, YOU HAVE TO GET COMMISSION APPROVAL.
BUT IF WE CAN DO THAT, I MAY NOT TO COME BACK OVER HERE.
UH, SO MODULES, OPTIONS TO INCLUDE ANY PROPOSAL, ATTORNEY MANAGER, PRODUCT CENTER LICENSES, WOULD THAT NOT BE THE, THE, UH, RECURRING COST, THE LICENSE FEE IS INCLUDED.
IS THAT JUST ONE? THAT'S JUST A ONE TIME DEAL.
SO THAT WOULDN'T BE THE FIGURE FOR THE YEAR, THE COST.
WELL YOU SEE HOW THEY BROUGHT THAT DOWN THERE AND THEY TOOK TOTAL LICENSE FEE.
THEY HAVE NOTHING CENTER LICENSE.
SO THAT WOULD, WOULD THAT BE, IF YOU LOOK ON THAT BACK PAGE, THEY DON'T INCLUDE THAT FEE ON THAT AS IT, IT'S WHAT IT WOULD'VE COST, BUT WE'RE NOT CHARGED FOR THAT.
I QUOTE THEY DO, BUT IT WAS EITHER ME EXPLAIN OR BRING JOHN BACK.
BUT WHAT WE'RE ASKING OR WHAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR APPROVAL TODAY IS ON 1 0 3 2 6 5.
LET ME, LET ME HELP THEM WITH THIS.
UM, YOU SEE COST BREAKDOWN THAT VERY FIRST PAGE, COMMISSIONER MAN? YES MA'AM.
YOU SEE HOW THEY HAVE THAT 17 8 50 OVER THERE TO THE RIGHT? YES.
IF I GO UNDER COST AND I ADD ALL THOSE UP, THEY'RE NOT INCLUDING THAT 17 8 50.
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AND THEY'RE ADDING 11 TOO, WHICH IS IN THAT 1 0 3.THEY'RE THEY'RE JUST SHOWING US, LOOK, Y'ALL BOUGHT THAT AND THAT 17 8 50 YOU'RE NOT PAYING FOR.
AND THAT'S THE 1750 IS THE RECURRING COST FOR THIS 1 0 3 TO 65 IS THIS COST FOR THIS SETUP.
AND THEN THE OTHER 17 8 50 IS THE RECURRING.
SO THAT'S WHAT WE PAY EVERY 17, 8 50 GEORGE.
UNLESS WE MOVE TO A HOSTED OR CLUB, IT WOULD BE LESS THAN THAT.
I THOUGHT A PREMISE INSTALL 17 IS CORRECT.
IF THIS WAS, IF WE HAPPEN TO PASS THIS TODAY UHHUH, HOW SOON COULD THIS BE IMPLEMENTED? WELL, THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION, BUT THAT'S WHAT I ASKED THIS GUY.
WELL, YOU KNOW, WE GET STACKED IN BEHIND.
THEY'RE NOT GONNA GIVE ME A DECK IN THE DAY UNTIL THEY GET APPROVAL.
THEY'RE GONNA PUT US BEHIND
YEAH, WELL THAT'S WHY I'M ASKING.
YOU KNOW, YOU GOING TO START THE BALL ROLLING DOWN HILL.
I THEN GO, DID YOU CALL JOHN AND TELL HIM? HE SAID, SO THAT'S WHAT I SO YOU, YOU WOULD SAY WITHIN 30 60 DAYS? SURE.
I CAN'T SAY YOU GEORGE'S WORD ON THAT.
I DON'T KNOW, BUT I'M JUST TELLING YOU WORD'S.
BUT HE CAN'T CONTROL WHAT THEY'RE GONNA DO.
I CALL SAY WE NEED THIS NOW, WE NOT GONNA CHECK OTHER QUESTIONS.
WELL, I DON'T THINK THEY'LL UP THE DA BUT NOT A GOOD QUESTION FROM PROSECUTOR SOFTWARE AND THE FUNDING.
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER SHANE ON BOTH THOSE ITEMS. UH, DO I HAVE A SECOND? COMMISSIONER ROSA SECONDS.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSIONS? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
THANK, LET'S TAKE ABOUT A 10 MINUTE BREAK.
GEORGE, MARY, I KNOW YOU NEED TO GET UP HERE AND I'LL GET YOU HERE JUST IN A OKAY.
I'M NOT GONNA ASK FOR ANY MONEY.
APPRECIATE AND HEAR WHAT YOU HAVE TO SAY ON ITEM NUMBER FOUR.
I KNOW YOU, I'M MEETING JUDGE SMITH, JUDGE ADAMS AND ADDISON.
WE HAVE A CLASS TO GO TO AT ONE.
WE'RE GONNA BE IN ADDISON FOR A COUPLE OF DAYS.
WE'RE ALWAYS HAVING TO GO LEARN WHAT I'VE LEARNED.
SO IF Y'ALL FALL ASLEEP WHILE I'M TALKING, YOU CAN LOOK IT OVER AT ANOTHER TIME AND I'M GONNA READ TO YOU SO I DON'T, SO I DON'T LEAVE ANYTHING OUT.
AND BEFORE I GET STARTED, I WANT TO THANK YOU AGAIN FOR POINTING ME AS THE JUSTICE OF PEACE IN PRECINCTS ONE AND ENTRUSTING ME WITH ALL THE FIDUCIARY RESPONSIBILITIES FOR THE JUSTICE COURT.
UM, YOU DID THAT ON OCTOBER THE 28TH OF 2013.
AND I IMMEDIATELY BEGAN MY ASSESSMENT OF THE CONDITION OF THE COURT AND STARTED REVIEWING WITH THE CLERKS OF THE COURT THE EXISTING POLICIES AND PROCEDURES AND FOUND THE FOLLOWING.
THE COURT WAS NOT IN COMPLIANCE WITH COLLECTION PROCEDURES OUTLINED BY THE OFFICE OF COURT ADMINISTRATION.
THE CLERKS HAD BEEN INSTRUCTED TO STOP REFERRING PAYMENT PLANS TO THE COLLECTION DEPARTMENT, BUT SINCE THEY HAD STOPPED REFERRING THEM THE PROPER OCA PROCEDURES HAVE NOT BEEN FOLLOWED IN HOUSE, THERE WAS A SUBSTANTIAL CIVIL BACKLOG OF CASE.
WOULD YOU, WAS THAT BY THE PREVIOUS JUDGE? YES, IT WAS.
YES, THERE WAS A SUBSTANTIAL CIVIL BACKLOG OF CASES WITH LITTLE OR NO ACTIVITY SIGNED DATING BACK TO 2006 AND 2007 DUE TO SOLE SETTING OF COURT DATES AND REPETITIVE MOTIONS FOR CONTINUANCES.
THERE WERE MOTION MOTIONS FOR DEFAULT JUDGMENT THAT HAD NOT, THAT HAD BEEN PENDING FOR MORE THAN 18 MONTHS.
THERE WERE DOZENS OF CASES PROFILE WARRANTS ON CRIMINAL CASES THAT HAD NOT BEEN PROPERLY ISSUED AND NO WARRANTS HAVE BEEN ISSUED ON CASES THAT HAD BEEN REFERRED TO BEYOND THE DATABASE OR OUTSIDE COLLECTION.
JUVENILE CASES WERE NOT BEING HANDLED PROPERLY AND NO ACTION HAD BEEN TAKEN ON SOME JUVENILE CASES THAT DATE BACK TO 2011.
THERE WERE SEVERAL TRUANCY HEARINGS THAT HAD NOT BEEN DISCUSS.
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I DO WANT TO TELL YOU THAT THE COURT STAFF IS VERY CAPABLE OF HANDLING THEIR DUTIES AND NO COURT PROCEDURES THAT SHOULD BE FOLLOWED AND THAT ANY INEFFICIENCY OF THE COURT IN THE PAST SHOULD NOT BE BLAMED ON THEM.UM, THEY WOULD JUST DOING IS THEY HAVE BEEN DIRECTED.
UM, THEY HAVE, THEY SEEM TO HAVE ADJUSTED TO MY DOING EVERYTHING ACCORDING TO THE LAW REQUIREMENT VERY WELL.
AND I APPRECIATE THEIR WILLINGNESS TO ADAPT TO NEW PROCEDURES AND PROTOCOL.
AND I'LL TELL Y'ALL THEY HAVE DONE THAT.
GLAD WE'RE NOW FOLLOWING THE LAW.
IMMEDIATE STEPS WERE TAKEN TO IMPLEMENT PROCEDURES TO CLEAN UP THE BACK LAW WITH CIVIL CASES AND HANDLE NEW CASES MORE EFFICIENTLY.
MANY CASES HAVE ALREADY BEEN DISPOSED OF TO DATE AND PRE-TRIAL AND TRIALS HAVE BEEN SCHEDULED THROUGHOUT THE NEXT FEW MONTHS ON CONTESTED BACKLOG CASES AS WELL AS THE MORE RECENT CASES.
SO WE'RE MOVING THEM AS QUICKLY AS WE CAN.
UM, SOME OF THE 2006 AND 2007 CASES HAVE AL ALREADY BEEN TAKEN CARE OF.
I'M TRYING TO TAKE THEM ON A, ON A LAST FIRST BASIS SO THAT WE CAN MOVE THE BACKLOG AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE.
MORE EFFICIENT FORMS HAVE BEEN ADDED TO THE SOFTWARE PROGRAM.
WARRANTS THAT WERE NOT PROPERLY ISSUED HAVE BEEN RECALLED AND PROCESSES FOR THE ISSUANCE OF WARRANTS FOR ALL CRIMINAL CASES HAVE BEEN PUT INTO PLACE AND THE COURT IS ISSUING MORE WARRANTS THAN IT HAS IN THE PAST.
ON CLASS C MISDEMEANOR CASES, JUVENILE AND TRUANCY HEARINGS ARE ALL CURRENT AND I BELIEVE THAT KAUFMAN AND SCURRY ISD ARE PLEASED WITH MY PROACTIVE APPROACH ON TRUANCY ISSUES.
I'VE ESTABLISHED A GOOD WORKING RELATIONSHIP WITH THE KAMAN POLICE DEPARTMENT AND THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT AND BOTH AGENCIES ARE AWARE THEY CAN CALL IMMEDIATE IF NEEDED.
FURTHER WITH JP ON DUTY OR NOT.
SEVERAL DPS OFFICERS HAVE ALREADY STOPPED BY THE OFFICE TO MEET ME AND I AMENDED SOME BRIDGES THERE AND WE ARE GETTING CASES FILED BACK IN JP ONE BY D PS.
UM, ALMOST ON A REPEAT BASIS, I'VE REVIEWED THE COURT'S BUDGET AND ONCE THE HANDLING OF BACKLOG CASES IS COMPLETE, I'LL LOOK FOR WAYS TO SAY MY BADGE IF I CAN.
AND I WAIVE THE COUNTY'S HEALTH INSURANCE, WHICH HAS HELP A LITTLE BIT ON MY COURT'S BUDGET.
I KNOW THAT THE COURT HAS TAKEN UP MORE OF THE CONSTABLE'S TIME IN THE PAST THREE MONTHS, BUT THEY HAVE NEVER COMPLAINED AND I HAVE A TREMENDOUS AND HAVE BEEN A TREMENDOUS HELP TO ME IN THE COURTROOM.
AND WITH SERVICE OF PROCESSING WARRANT, I FINALLY GIVEN THEM A LITTLE BREATHING ROOM SINCE OF TIME TO RUN TRAFFIC AND ISSUE CITATIONS IN ADDITION TO ALL THEIR OTHER DUTIES.
OKAY, WE'RE GONNA TALK TO YOU ABOUT THE WARRANT ROUNDUP IN EARLY NOVEMBER.
CONSTABLE MAYFIELD AND I DECIDED TO PARTICIPATE IN THE STATEWIDE WARRANT ROUNDUP THIS YEAR IN AN EFFORT TO DISPOSE OF SOME PENDING CRIMINAL CASES.
I DON'T KNOW IF THE COURT HAS DONE THAT IN THE PAST, BUT I'VE ALWAYS PARTICIPATED IN IT, UH, FOR THE PAST FIVE YEARS.
IT'S A LOT OF WORK TO THE COURT AND THE CONSTABLE'S OFFICE, BUT HOPEFULLY IT'S GONNA BE WORTH IT.
THIS WILL HELP ELIMINATE A BACKLOG OF WARRANTS AND PRODUCE SOME UNBUDGETED NAME.
WHILE I CAN'T PUBLICLY ANNOUNCE A START DATE YET, I CAN TELL YOU THAT IT'S COMING SO IT'S VERY CLOSE.
UH, ONCE THE STATE HAS THEIR ANNOUNCEMENT, THEN I CAN PUBLICIZE IT.
I CAN PUT AN ARTICLE IN THE NEWSPAPER THAT WE ARE GONNA PARTICIPATE IN.
SO HOPEFULLY WE CLEAN OUT SOME OF THAT BACKLOG.
THE COURT IS GONNA GO PAPERLESS.
I'VE ORDERED TWO SCANNERS TO BE PAID FOR OUT OF THE TECHNOLOGY FUND BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT THAT FUND IS FOR.
AND WE'LL BEGIN WORKING TOWARD BECOMING ALMOST PAPERLESS.
THIS WILL BE MORE EFFICIENT, BETTER FOR THE ENVIRONMENT.
AND SO TAXPAYER TIME, MONEY, UH, SOMETHING THAT I'M PLANNING FOR THE FUTURE ARE SOME JUVENILE PROGRAMS AND PORTER IS WORKING WITH B2C.
THE COUNTY COULD OBTAIN A GRANT TO POSSIBLY ESTABLISH A TEEN COURT THAT BE UTILIZED BY ALL THE JP COURTS, MUNICIPAL COURTS AND THE SCHOOL DISTRICT IN COUNTY.
UM, I'VE ALREADY TALKED WITH SOME OF THE JUDGES IN SOME OF THESE COURTS AND THEY'RE ALL VERY INTERESTED IN IT.
UH, I'LL GO TO THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS NEXT, BUT I'M WORKING ON THE BACKLOG FIRST.
AND ONCE I HAVE A LITTLE MORE THAN I ON THAT, UM, I'VE BEEN USING THE STAR PROGRAM, WHICH IS FUNDED BY THE TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF FAMILY AND PROTECTIVE SERVICES TO HELP AT RISK YOUTH AND THEIR FAMILIES AND HAVE VISITED WITH
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SEVERAL NONPROFIT ORGANIZATIONS THAT I FEEL WOULD BE APPROPRIATE PLACES FOR JUVENILES TO PERFORM COMMUNITY SERVICE UNTIL WEATHER GETS BETTER SO THAT I CAN COORDINATE SOME ON MY OWN AND SUPERVISE.I APOLOGIZE FOR LEAVING THE REPORT THAT A LOT'S BEEN DONE AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR YOU TO BE AWARE OF THE CHANGES I'VE MADE SO FAR AND MY VISION THAT I HAVE FOR FUTURE.
Y'ALL HAVE ANY? I APPRECIATE EVERYTHING YOU'VE DONE.
I'VE HAD SEVERAL COMMENTS OF PEOPLE BEING, UH, YOUR AVAILABILITY.
ANY OF Y'ALL ARE WELCOME TO COME AT ANY TIME THAT YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
I'M SORRY IF I ABOVE Y'ALL, BUT I DO LIKE FOR Y'ALL TO KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON.
PLEASE KEEP SIMPLE, JUDGE WOOD.
MAY I INTERJECT SOMETHING? SURE.
UH, WITH OUR DOING OUR AUDITS, OUR FIELD AUDITS AND THINGS, UH, THE EMPLOYEES HAVE REALLY EXPRESSED THAT THEY ARE ENJOYING FOLLOWING THE LAW.
I IMAGINE THAT I, I THINK THEY TOLD SEVERAL PEOPLE AND I DO APPRECIATE THAT.
BUT WE, WE DO FOLLOW THE LAW AND THAT COURT, WE DON'T MAKE IT UP AS WE GO ALONG.
AND UM, I DO HAVE A GREAT WORKING RELATIONSHIP WITH THE OTHER THREE JPS AND COST SAVING IDEAS IN THE NEXT MONTH.
WELL THANK YOU FOR THE REPORT.
WE KNOW YOU'VE GOTTA BE IN ADDISON AT ONCE.
ITEM NUMBER FIVE, UH, IS FROM KATHY TO PRESENT ACCEPT PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT.
UH, DEPARTMENT'S REPORT I REALLY, BECAUSE I WAS ASKED, SO FOR JANUARY WE HAD 17, WHICH IS ABOUT NORMAL PRECINCT.
PRECINCT PRECINCT THREE HAD FOUR PRECINCT COMPLAINTS INVESTIGATED FROM A MAINTENANCE CONTRACT.
NUMBER 79 42 MALFUNCTIONS AND 36 MAINTENANCE PROVIDER VIOLATIONS.
THAT'S ABOUT EIGHT DIFFERENT PROVIDERS.
JUST ONE PERSON COMPLAINTS ABOUT PRECINCT.
ONE HAVE 39, 2 HAVE 30 PRECINCT THREE HAVE 32 PRECINCT COURT, 20 COURT CASES FILED.
THERE WERE 33 FOR NO MAINTENANCE CONTRACT, 23 FOR MALFUNCTION.
AND 34 OF THE MAINTENANCE PROVIDERS GOT BYLAW COURT CASES BY PRECINCT EXCLUDING THE MAINTENANCE PROVIDER.
ONES 19 FOR PRECINCT ONE, PRECINCT TWO HAD EIGHT, PRECINCT THREE HAD 12 PRECINCT FOUR HAD 17.
THERE WERE 37 SITE VISIT FOLLOW UP, UH, ADDRESSES.
WE HAVE 30, WHICH IS PRETTY GOOD FOR JANUARY.
THERE WERE SIX IN PRECINCT ONE, PRECINCT 2 0 2, PRECINCT 3 0 9, PRECINCT FOUR 13.
AND WE ACTUALLY DID GET SOME INFORMATION FROM COG ABOUT THE GIS.
WE HAVE ABOUT 28,000 ROADS IN THE COUNTY.
THAT'S INCLUDING THE ROADS IN THE CITY.
UH, THE ERROR REPORT WE GOT THREE WEEKS AGO, THERE WERE 454 ERRORS, WHICH MISTY HAS WORKED ON COMPLETING AND CORRECTING.
AND THEY DO HAVE A NEW PERSON AT, THEY'VE HIRED A NEW PERSON FOR THEIR GIS SUPERVISOR LAST WEEK.
AND WE HOPE THINGS WILL IMPROVE, INCREASE OUR REPORTING.
WE HOPE THE BACK PAGE IS JUST WHAT YOU ASKING TO DO IS DROP, DROP A MONTH.
THAT GOT 12 MONTH SNAPSHOT OF COMPARISON.
JANUARY 14 IS THE VERY LAST CALL.
KATHY, THE UH, THE ADDRESSING IN GIS IS THAT HANDLED ALL BY ONE PERSON? UH, AT THIS TIME, THE 9 1 1 ADDRESSING IS HANDLED BY ONE PERSON.
THE GIS IS HANDLED BY ANOTHER BECAUSE WE HAD SUCH AN ERROR, A HUGE ERROR PROBLEM WITH THE GIS NOW IN THE LAST YEAR AND A HALF, THIS HAS GOT IT DOWN TO WHERE THERE'S NEXT TO NONE.
THOSE TWO JOBS PROBABLY CAN BE COMBINED AT THE END OF THE YEAR.
IT LOOKS LIKE THE, THE UH, GIS OR THE ADDRESS IN PERSON HANDLES SOMEWHERE BETWEEN UH, NINE AND 33 CASES A MONTH.
WHAT IS THE PROCEDURE, UH, FOR THAT PERSON? DO YOU KNOW WHERE SOMEBODY FILES FOR AN ADDRESS? HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE HIM TO ISSUE? USUALLY WITHIN 24 HOURS.
SO IT TAKES, SO IN OTHER WORDS, THEY HAD NINE CASES A MONTH.
WELL, WHAT THEY HAVE TO DO IS TAKING, TAKEN, BOTH OF THEM HAVE TO GO OUT, PHYSICALLY GO OUT TO THE LOCATION AND GPS THE ADDRESS.
WHILE THEY'RE DOING THAT, THEY'RE ALSO GOING OUT AND CORRECT ADDRESS POINTS.
SO, AND IT DOES, I'VE DONE IT.
IT TAKES TWO PEOPLE ONE TO DRIVE AND ONE TO OPERATE THE TRIMBLE UNIT.
DOES IT TAKE 'EM ALL DAY TO DO? NO, THEY, THEY DO THAT IN THE AFTERNOON.
SO IF HE HAS NINE CASES, IN OTHER WORDS, SAY IN MARCH OF 13 HAD NINE CASES,
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WHAT DID HE DO TO DO THE REST OF MONTH? HE DOES FLOOD PLAIN.HE MAKES SIGNS AND HE ASSISTS MISTY WITH THE GIS STUFF.
OR HE'LL GO OUT AND DO SEPTIC SYSTEM INSPECTIONS IF KEN IS NOT THERE.
10 YEARS AGO I HAD TO GET AN ADDRESS IN COLLIN COUNTY.
MM-HMM
THEY GOT ON THE COMPUTER, GOT A PICTURE OF THE PLACE.
YEAH, THE HOUSE IS GONNA GO RIGHT HERE.
AND THEY GAVE ME THE ADDRESS RIGHT THEN.
COLLIN COUNTY'S TECHNOLOGY WAS WAY ABOVE AND BEYOND WHAT OURS HAS EVER BEEN.
CAN WE GET THAT POINT SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO ALL THAT RIGHT? YES WE CAN.
I'M JUST SURPRIS WHEN YOU SAID TO TAKE TWO PEOPLE OUT THERE AND DID IT BECAUSE LIKE I SAID, WHEN I WENT UP THERE I HAD THAT, THAT ADDRESS IN 15 MINUTES AND COLLIN COUNTY WAS FORTUNATE WAY IN THE BEGINNING OF 9 1 1 ADDRESSING BACK IN THE EARLY NINETIES, THEY HAD THE MONEY THAT THEY COULD GIVE THE MOST CURRENT TECHNOLOGY.
SO THEIR MAP HAS BEEN ABOVE AND BEYOND WHAT A LOT OF OTHER FOLKS, ESPECIALLY THE RURAL COUNTY.
YEAH, WE HEADED THAT DIRECTION.
WE SHOULD BE THERE AS 98% WITH 400 ERROR.
NO FURTHER QUESTIONS, YOUR HONOR.
OTHER QUESTIONS FOR MS. MORRIS? MOTION TO ACCEPT HER REPORT AS PRESENT.
SO MAY COMMISSIONER MAY THAT MOTION SECOND.
UH, MARILYN, I'M GOING TO MOVE DOWN TO ITEM NUMBER EIGHT, UH, SINCE WE SIT HERE ALL MORNING AND UH, UH, I KNOW YOU PROBABLY HAVE THINGS YOU NEED TO BE GOING TO, SO THANK YOU.
WE'LL MOVE, UH, FORWARD WITH THAT JUDGE.
WELL THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR, UM, SEEING ME TODAY.
WHAT I AM HERE TO, TO REQUEST IS YOUR PERMISSION TO, UM, GO AHEAD AND LOOK INTO RESEARCH AND POSSIBLY WRITE, UM, SOME GRANTS.
AND THEY'RE WITH THE NORTH CENTRAL TEXAS COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENTS.
NOW WE DON'T HAVE TO MATCH ANY MONEY.
WE USUALLY DO IN KIND, WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, THE CO-OP'S TIME, THE AUDITOR'S OFFICE TIME.
SO THE AUDITOR'S OFFICE JUST HAS TO REVIEW IT AND THEN SEND IT IN.
WE MAY ASK THE COURT TO PAY FOR IT AND THEN THEY USUALLY GET THREE WEEKS TO A MONTH.
UM, COG IS REALLY GOOD AND WE GET OUR REPORTS IN REALLY, REALLY GOOD.
SO, UM, THE FIRST ONE THAT I WOULD LIKE TO LOOK INTO IS, UM, REVIEWING AND UPDATING THE KAMAN COUNTY 20 YEAR SOLID WASTE MANAGEMENT PLAN THAT WAS PUT INTO PLACE AND, AND DEVELOPED AN INITIATED IN FACT IN 1997.
AND TO DATE, IT'S THE ONLY SOLID WASTE PLAN, UH, IN THE STATE OF TEXAS THAT WAS CERTIFIED BY THE STATE.
UM, ENVIRONMENTAL CO-OP WAS ESTABLISHED TO MANAGE AND TO INITIATE THAT PLAN.
AND WE HAVE BEEN DOING SO FOR 17 YEARS NOW.
THIS IS OUR 17TH YEAR PLAN, BUT WITH ONLY THREE YEARS LEFT ON THE PLAN.
I MEAN, WE CAN LOOK OUT AND WE, WE HAVE TRIED TO DO THAT, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO, UM, MONEY FOR, FROM A GRANT TO GO AHEAD AND PAY FOR THAT.
IT WAS A GRANT PAID PLAN TO BEGIN WITH THROUGH THE CO THEY KNOW ABOUT IT, THEY'RE QUITE AWARE AND I'VE ALREADY TALKED TO THEM AND THEY SAID THAT THIS WAS QUITE FUNDABLE.
SO, UM, THAT WAY WE WOULD BE ABLE TO GO BACK OUT FOR MANY MORE YEARS AND HAVE GUIDANCE, YOU KNOW, AND WE, WE WOULD HAVE, UM, I'M LOOKING AT A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT, UH, ENGINEERING FIRMS, BUT THE ONE THAT DID THE FIRST PLAN AND THE GENTLEMAN THAT DID IT IS VERY INTERESTED IN WORKING WITH US AGAIN.
HE WOULD LIKE TO SEE US PUSH IT OUT.
WE HAVE HAD OUTSTANDING, UM, SUCCESS WITH THAT PLAN.
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UM, I DON'T THINK THAT ANYBODY, WE COULD HAVE DONE WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING WITHOUT THAT GUIDANCE.SO WE, WE LOOK AT THAT CONSTANTLY.
WE HAVE CHARTED OUT EXACTLY WHERE WE'RE AT.
IT'S GONNA BE REALLY EASY FOR ME TO SHOW HIM EXACTLY WHAT WE'VE DONE AND WHERE WE'RE AT.
AND THEN HE KNOWS ALL THE FUNCTIONS OF SOLID WASTE AND WHERE WE WILL NEED TO GO IN THE FUTURE.
SO I THINK THAT IT'S, UM, THAT WOULD BE A VERY WORTHWHILE GRANT TO APPLY FOR.
THE OTHER ONE IS, UM, A RECYCLING, PLANT UPGRADE AND RECYCLING PROGRAM FOR EDUCATION.
UM, LAST YEAR WE RECYCLED A MILLION, 600,000 POUNDS PLUS OF MATERIAL OUT OF THAT LITTLE, UM, RECYCLING FACILITY.
AND WHEN WE, WHEN WE PUT THAT TOGETHER FIVE YEARS AGO, WE HAD NO IDEA THAT IT WOULD EVER BE WHAT IT'S RIGHT NOW.
SO WE'RE ANTIQUATED IN OUR, EVERYTHING IS VERY MANUAL.
MY, MY GUYS HAVE TO PICK UP AND IT'S HANDLED MANY TIMES, MULTITUDE OF TIMES.
SO I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IF WE COULD FIND SOME EQUIPMENT THAT WOULD END UP BEING A LITTLE MORE AUTOMATED SO THAT THEY DON'T HAVE THE HANDLING AS MUCH.
AND THEN THAT WILL HELP US WITH OUR EXPENSES BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY WHEN WE'RE HANDLING IT THAT MANY TIMES YOU'RE PAYING SOMEBODY TO DO THAT.
SO, UM, AND OUR, OUR, SOME OF OUR EQUIPMENT HAS BEEN COSTLY TO REPAIR 'CAUSE IT'S JUST GETTING USED A LOT.
SO THOSE ARE, THAT'S SOMETHING I'D LIKE TO DO.
AND THEN ALSO, UM, PUT AN EDUCATIONAL, UH, ASPECT TO IT.
WE, WE HAVE A CHILDREN'S LEADERSHIP PROGRAM THAT WE'D LIKE TO PUT IN ENVIRONMENTAL LEADERSHIP, UM, AND MAYBE SOME ODYSSEY IMPROVEMENTS.
UM, THE OTHER ONE WOULD BE ATOP LEGAL DUMPING EDUCATION, ENTIRE COLLECTION.
THAT SEEMS TO BE SOMETHING THAT THE COMMISSIONERS REALLY, UH, FEEL AS A VALUE TO HAVE THOSE TIRE TRUCKS SO THAT THEY DON'T HAVE TO PAY FOR THOSE.
AND IF WE COULD DO THAT AGAIN, I THINK IT'S BEEN, WHAT, TWO YEARS? SO NOW IT'S, YOU KNOW, WE COULD PROBABLY GET AWAY WITH ASKING FOR THAT AND A NEW UP A LITTLE BIT A NEW, UM, SO THAT WOULD BE ONE.
AND THEN THE, THE TRASH HUB PROJECT THAT YOU HAD TALKED TO, TO MARK AND BOB ABOUT ALL OF YOU HAVE.
UM, I KNOW THAT THEY'RE IN THE PROCESS OF TRYING TO WRITE A GRANT, BUT I HAVE SOME ISSUES THAT I FEEL SO NEED BE CLEARED UP AND I DON'T KNOW WHETHER WE NEED TO HAVE A WORKSHOP, UM, ON THIS TO, TO REALLY MAKE IT WORK.
AND THAT IS THAT THE LOCATION NEEDS TO BE CLEARLY GIVEN TO US AND WITH A GRANT FROM COG WE HAVE TO USE ON PROPERTY.
SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE REALLY NEED TO WORK OUT.
UM, SOME OF THESE ISSUES BOB AND MARK DON'T UNDERSTAND AS WELL BECAUSE THEY HAVEN'T REALLY DONE THIS BEFORE.
UM, THE ELECTRICITY, I ASKED THEM THIS WEEK OR LAST WEEK, IF THEY WOULD SPECIFY TO ME WHAT KIND OF ELECTRICITY WOULD YOU NEED? BECAUSE AT KEN, OUR, UH, COMMISSIONER SHANE'S PROPERTY AT 4 29, I'M NOT SURE WHAT YOU HAVE, BUT WE, AS FAR AS ELECTRICAL THAT'S AVAILABLE, SO WE WOULD NEED TO KIND OF GET ALL THAT SITUATED SO THAT, UM, WOULD BE ANOTHER ONE.
AND THEN WHAT I NEED IS FOR, UM, THIS COURT TO GIVE JUDGE WOOD AUTHORIZATION TO SIGN A RESOLUTION OR A COURT ORDER FOR EACH OF THE APPLICATIONS.
UM, AND THEY ARE ALL, THEY ALL HAVE TO BE SUBMITTED BY MARCH 11TH AT FIVE O'CLOCK.
SO THAT'S WHEN I'LL HAVE TO TURN THEM AND I CAN WORK WITH YOU.
YEAH, WE CAN GET THOSE ON THE AGENDA FOR THE NEXT MEETING THAT WE HAVE, WHICH WOULD BE ON THE 24TH.
OR PART, I MEAN WE CAN GO AHEAD AND HAVE THOSE APPROVED AT, AT THAT MEETING AND BY THEN I THINK WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO KIND OF KNOW WHAT WE'RE GONNA BE ABLE TO DO.
AS LONG AS WE CAN, UM, ON THIS TRASH HUB, WE NEED TO, I NEED SOMEBODY TO WORK WITH ME OR, UH, WITH THEM.
WELL, I KNOW SHE TALKED ABOUT TWO COMMISSIONERS AND, AND ME OF COURSE THAT WOULD CONSTITUTE A, UH, QUORUM.
SO WHAT'S THE BEST? UH, PROBABLY JUST THE COMMISSIONER AND THE, AND I SORT OF DON'T MIND MEETING, IT'S JUST, YOU KNOW, I KNOW, I, I DON'T REALLY, I WANT IT TO BE AS UM, SEAMLESS AS POSSIBLE.
OR WE CAN DO IT IN A WORKSHOP SESSION.
IT'S JUST A MATTER OF GETTING ANOTHER
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WORKSHOP SCHEDULED.AND AS YOU HEARD THE POINT, WE'VE GOT SEVERAL THINGS WE PROBABLY NEED TO TALK.
AND I, YOU KNOW, I WOULD IMAGINE THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE COULD PROBABLY WORK OUT IF WE KNEW WHERE, YOU KNOW, IT WAS GONNA BE LOCATED.
AND IF THAT ALL DOESN'T WORK OUT, THEN THERE'S NO, YOU KNOW, TO CONTINUE TO TRY TO DO THAT BECAUSE I'VE ALREADY TOLD THEM THE COUNTY WILL NOT PUT ANY MONEY IN AND THAT IF THEY DON'T GET A GRANT, THEN THAT'S, BUT THEY HAVE TO SUBMIT THE GRANT ON BEHALF OF THE COUNTY AND SO WE WILL, YOU KNOW, I'LL BE WORKING WITH THEM TO, TO DO THAT IF THE POSSIBILITY THAT IT REALLY COULD BE BUILT AND IT REALLY WOULD WORK OUT FOR THE COUNTY THAT'S, GIVES US A WEEK TO FIGURE THAT OUT.
AND I'M JUST, YOU KNOW, UNDER HERE I'M JUST BASICALLY SAYING THAT, UM, ALL I'M DOING RIGHT NOW IS ASKING THAT WE ARE ABLE TO GO FORWARD WITH THESE PARTICULAR THEMES AND IF, UM, YOU KNOW, LIKE I SAID, THIS RESEARCH DOESN'T WORK OUT TOO, THAT WE CAN PUT IN FOR CERTAIN ONES, THEN WE WILL JUST NOT DO THAT.
AND IF, YOU KNOW, THEY COME OUT TO BE REALLY GOOD AT SOMETHING THAT WE ALL THINK IS GONNA GO FORWARD AND HELP US OUT AND, UM, THEN THAT'S WHAT WE'LL DO.
THE IDEA OF TRASH HUB, I MEAN THAT, THAT'S A PRETTY, PRETTY NEAT PLAN.
I IT'S WORKING OUT THE DETAILS OF IT.
I WAS HOPING THAT THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO USE PRIVATE PROPERTY FOR THAT, NOT FOR THE GRANT.
NOT, BUT I, I UNDERSTAND FOR THE GRANT AND, AND THEY, UM, DON'T SEEM TO HAVE ANY FUNDS TO DO THIS THEMSELVES.
AND I KNEW THE COUNTY DIDN'T HAVE TO.
SO, UM, WHO WOULD YOU HAVE A SUGGESTION ON WHO I MIGHT WORK WITH TO, WELL, SINCE THE EVENT WITH KENNETH FIRST, PROBABLY, UH, HIM.
AND UH, AND THEN THE, THE ISSUE WITH THE 4 29 SIDE, MAYBE THAT'S WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS.
AND I'M NOT SURE WE, I KNOW THAT WE WENT AND MET WITH THE S ABOUT IT.
UM, YOU KNOW, I'M SURE THAT THEY JUST STOPPED AT THAT MEETING AND PROBABLY WOULDN'T GO ANY FURTHER.
BUT WE, THEY, THEY DO KNOW ABOUT IT.
THE CITY MANAGER KNOWS ABOUT ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY OTHER LOCATION.
I DON'T, I KNOW THAT I, I'M JUST A LITTLE CONCERNED ABOUT, UH, PUTTING A PRIVATE ENTITY DEAL.
IN OTHER WORDS, UH, EVEN THOUGH THEY'RE GETTING A GRANT FROM STATE FOR IT, PUTTING IT ON COUNTY PROPERTY, I'M NOT, IT'S YOUR PRO THEN IT'LL BE YOUR, IT'D BE COMPLETELY BELONG TO THE COUNTY.
THE MONEY THAT PAYS FOR THIS YOU'LL OF GUYS HAVE TO DO WITH IT.
THEY WOULD, THEY WOULD RUN IT, UM, I GUESS FOR THE COUNTY.
AND THEN, UM, THAT'S, THAT'S THE, THE DEAL.
IT HAS ALL OF THE, ALL OF THE DETAILS HAVEN'T BEEN WORKED OUT AND THAT'S WHAT HAS TO BE WORKED OUT BEFORE I'M WILLING TO PUT FOR THIS.
MY OTHER QUESTION IS, AND I WANT TO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIRELESS EFFORTS AND WHAT YOU DO.
UH, IT'S MADE A LOT OF DIFFERENCE IN OUR, IN OUR, UH, OPERATION DOWN THERE.
SINCE WE'VE UH, BEEN ABLE TO MARKET THAT CARDBOARD AND PAPER PRODUCTS DIRECT, I'M REALLY INTERESTED IN SOME MORE OF THESE GRANT TIRE TRAILERS.
UH, AT THIS TIME WE DON'T HAVE THE MANPOWER OR THE FACILITIES TO START A COMPACTING PROGRAM DOWN THERE WHERE WE CAN BAIL THAT STUFF AND GET THE, GET THE BIG MONEY FOR IT.
IT'S NOT EVEN BIG MONEY ANYMORE, BUT IT, IT DOUBLES WELL, IT'S MORE THAN, YEAH.
YOU KNOW, IT DOUBLES IF YOU HAUL A LOAD OF LOOSE MATERIAL UP THERE VERSUS BAILING, IT'LL DOUBLE.
BUT YOU, THAT BUILDING HAVE YOUR ELECTRICITY AND PEOPLE AND ROAD CREW JUST DOESN'T HAVE.
BUT I, I COMMEND YOU FOR YOUR, FOR YOUR TIRE, THE DISTANCE THAT YOU ARE FROM US.
I MEAN, WE COULD SIT DOWN AND TRY TO WORK OUT SOMETHING, BUT IT'S A DISTANCE TO, BUT THE, THE FREIGHT AND ALL THAT STUFF IS HARD BECAUSE SINCE WE DON'T HAVE OUR OWN CONTAINERS.
BUT ANYWAY, I'D BE VERY INTERESTED IN DOING ANYTHING I COULD HELP YOU WITH IT.
MEAN, WELL I THINK THAT THAT WILL BE ONE OF THE EASIER ONES WE GRABBED ONE TWO YEARS AGO AND WE'RE PROBABLY JUST GONNA CHANGE THEME.
A LOT OF DIFFERENCE WHEN YOU HOLLERED, UH, NEEDED HELP OR YOUR LADY CAME UP AND SAID YOU NEEDED HELP FILL SOME UP.
FILLED YOUR, I STILL DON'T THINK YOU'D HAVE ANY TROUBLE.
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SO ANYWAY.OTHER QUESTIONS FOR MARILYN? COMMENTS? I THINK MARILYN'S REALLY BEEN DOING A REALLY GOOD JOB WITH OUR COOP AND I JUST WANNA THANK HER AGAIN FOR WHAT SHE DOES.
THEY, THEY DO US A REALLY GOOD SERVICE.
WHAT KIND OF RELATIONSHIP DO YOU, DO YOU HAVE WITH PAM? I MEAN, REALLY GOOD FOR PAM BE IN CHARGE OF ALL GRANTS.
SO WE HAVE ALL OUR GRANTS IN ONE SPOT.
SO I DON'T KNOW IF, IF THERE'S, UH, COMMUNICATION BETWEEN YOU AND HER TO, BECAUSE I PAY ME, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG.
YOU DON'T KNOW WHERE THE GRANTS ARE AT RIGHT NOW, DO YOU? I DON'T, BUT MARILYN AND I WORKED TOGETHER IN THE PAST AND THAT WON'T BE A PROBLEM FOR US TO COMMUNICATE.
YEAH, I MEAN WE, IT WOULD BE CERTAINLY HELPFUL TO HAVE SOME HELP WITH, YOU KNOW, THE GRANT WRITING PART OF IT, IS SHE TO DO THAT? BUT, UM, WE HAVE A LOT OF STATISTICS AND WE HAVE OLDER GRANTS THAT WE GO BACK TO AND WE KIND OF, YOU KNOW, REDO WHAT WE'VE ALREADY DONE.
I WANNA TRY TO PUT IN MORE ABOUT WRITING THE GRANTS.
I WAS GONNA PUT ON MAYBE MONITORING GRANTS, MAKE SURE WE'RE STAYING COMPLIANCE WITH IT.
UM, WHAT WE DO RIGHT NOW IS WE GIVE THE AUDITOR'S OFFICE, WE WORK WITH THEM AND I MEAN SHE CAN HAVE COPIES OF EVERYTHING THAT WE GIVE THE AUDITOR'S OFFICE.
OTHER COMMENTS? YOU DO THE APPROVAL OF LEAD TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS? I, AS FAR AS SEEKING, I, I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THAT BEFORE I, YOU KNOW, SPEND ON, IT WILL BE A LARGE ENDEAVOR.
I BELIEVE THAT WE ALLOW, UH, THE ENVIRONMENTAL CO-OP COMMISSION TO APPLY FOR THREE POTENTIAL GRANTS FOR COMAN COUNTY, INCLUDING A STOP LEAD TO
ALRIGHT, WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER MANNING AND A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER SHANE, DO WE HAVE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH ON THE TRASH HUNT THEN WE'LL BRING THAT BACK WITH THE RESOLUTIONS.
IS THAT WHAT YOU WANT TO DO? UH, YEAH, I, LET'S GET WITH, UH, KENNETH AND LET'S SEE WHAT WE, WHAT WE NEED TO DO ON THAT.
I'VE NOT HEARD ANYTHING FROM THOSE.
THAT'S, I FEEL THOUGH THERE HAS TO BE MORE REAL DEFINITE BEFORE WE GO FORWARD.
ALRIGHT, WELL THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
UH, CONSTABLE LAW, UH, ITEM NUMBER SIX AND I BELIEVE HE HAD TO LEAVE SHERIFF? NO, I HAD TO LEAVE, BUT HE ASKED ME TO PRESENT THIS.
NO, UH, COMPLAINTS ABOUT YOUR PROFILING IN THE LAST YEAR.
UH, RAY, HAVE YOU GOT ANY COMMENTS? COMPLAINTS, ACCEPT PRECINCT TO 2013 RACIAL REPORT.
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM UH, COMMISSIONER CLARK.
WE HAVE A SECOND, SECOND, SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER ROSA.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
QUESTION IS PRECINCT TWO THE ONLY ONE? I THINK MOST OF IT ARE, IS IT DIFFERENT TIMES OF THE YEAR OR NOT? NO, IT'S JUST, IT'S THIS TIME.
IT'S UH, FEBRUARY AND MARCH WHEN WE GET THEM IN.
WE'LL GET THE STATUTE ON THE YEAR BEFORE IT'S ON, ON, IT'S ON A CALENDAR, NOT FISCAL.
ITEM NUMBER SEVEN IS TO, UH, I HAVE THE, UH, THE OFFICERS FOR REPORT JANUARY 20.
UM, YOU'RE INTO FOUR MONTHS OF YOUR YEAR AND UH, YOU SHOULD BE ABOUT 33% AND IT LOOKS LIKE OUR, UH, GENERAL FUND IS DOING REALLY GOOD.
WE'RE AT 72.43% OF OUR REVENUES AND ONLY 34.59 OF OUR EXPENDITURES.
WE HAD QUITE A BIT OF OUR TAX MONEY COME IN THE MONTH OF JANUARY.
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UH, JUDGE, JUDGE WOOD AND I NOTIFIED, UH, LAST BUDGET THAT THOSE, UH, AMOUNTS WOULD PROBABLY GO DOWN.SO WE DID NOT BUDGET THE 80 THAT WE USUALLY BUDGET.
SO IF WE GET EXTRA, THAT'S GOOD.
AND I THINK PART OF THAT IS, IS THAT THIS FIRST AMOUNT I GUESS WAS BASED ON WHAT WE WOULD'VE RECEIVED AT THE END OF LAST YEAR, BUT THE STATE I THINK STARTED KEEPING MORE OF THOSE RIGHT THERE.
THE PERCENTAGE OF THE COUNTY GETS IS LESS.
AND IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S A COUPLE OF DEPARTMENTS THAT ARE RUNNING A LITTLE BIT OVER THREE.
THREE IS WHAT? UH, GENERAL GOVERNMENT.
THAT'S BECAUSE WE PAID THE INSURANCES FOR THE LIABILITIES.
PUBLIC OFFICIALS, THE BUILDINGS AND ALL.
WE PAID THAT UP FRONT TO GET A DISCOUNT.
EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT, THAT'S WHERE THEY PAID THEIR, THEIR FEES FOR THE UH, YES SIR.
AND WE HAD TO PAY NOTIFICATION.
WE HAD TO PAY THAT UP, SIR, ALL AT ONE TIME.
TRANSFERS, ELABORATE TRANSFERS.
WE, WE SEND THEM OUT THE FIRST OF EVERY MONTH.
THAT IS, THOSE TRANSFERS ARE TO THE KAKA COUNTY LIBRARY.
THE INDIGENT, UH, HEALTH COORDINATOR, UH, BUDGET FOR MEDICAL SERVICES.
AND A LOT OF THE, UM, SHERIFF'S OFFICE, UH, PRISONERS ARE RAN THROUGH THAT TOO TO TRY TO SAVE MONEY.
THE OFFICIAL FEES ON THE, UH, REVENUE PART UP THE FRONT, I MEAN ON THE FIRST PAGE, THAT INCLUDES FINES AS WELL.
UM, JP FINDS PRIMARILY YOUR OFFICIAL FEES, UH, IS THE COUNTY CLERK, UH, DISTRICT CLERK, ATTORNEY HAD LED ON JUSTICE OF THE FEES, UH, ADMINISTRATION OF JUSTICE FEES, TIME PAYMENTS, DISTRICT ATTORNEY, TAX COLLECTOR FEES, CONSTABLE SHERIFF, THE COUNTY COURT OF LAW.
BUT YOU NEED TO UNDERSTAND THAT SOME OF THAT MONEY THAT'S RECEDED JANUARY 31ST IS NOT GIVEN TO THE COUNTY TREASURER UNTIL THE FOLLOWING DAY OR THE FOLLOWING MONDAY OR TUESDAY AFTER CLOSING OF THE MONTH.
SO THEY PUT IT IN THE CURRENT MONTH THEY'RE IN.
THAT'S JUST LIKE Y'ALL WERE TOLD YOU GOT SOME TAX MONEY AND YOU WERE QUESTIONING THAT TAX MONEY.
YOU GOT, WE RECEIVED $8 MILLION JUST IN THE GENERAL FUND ON ONE DAY THAT, THAT WAS BECAUSE IT WAS JANUARY'S TAX MONEY, BUT THE TAX COLLECTOR HAD TO PROCESS ALL THAT MONEY THAT WAS COLLECTED AND IT
MY REASON FOR BRINGING THAT UP, I KNOW WE'RE, WE'RE GETTING UH, TIED ON TIME HERE, BUT, UH, BARBARA AND IT DEPARTMENT ALWAYS RUNS US A, UH, REPORT ON JP FUNDS ACTIVITY.
AND WE ARE DROWNED DRAMATICALLY FROM WHAT WE UH, WERE THIS TIME LAST YEAR.
AND I'M NOT SURE WHAT THAT IS.
UH, I UNDERSTAND THAT MAYBE IT'S, WE'RE NOT HAVING AS MANY CASES FILED, UH, BUT I, IT'S SOMETHING WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO KEEP AN EYE ON.
WELL IF YOU LOOK AT IT, JUDGE, JUST ON THE JPS FOR THE YEAR TO DATE IS 261,861 FOR THIS YEAR.
LAST YEAR AT THIS TIME IT WAS 246,000.
SO IT'S A LITTLE BIT OVER THIS MONTH, ABOUT 15.
NOW THE REPORT I SAW THE OTHER DAY WAS NOT, WAS NOT THAT, I DUNNO BEFORE I DIDN'T MIND FROM WHAT THE COUNTY TREASURY IS RECEIVING.
GEORGE, YOU HAVE ANY? DID YOU LOOK, UH, WHAT WE'D LIKE TO DO IS COMPARE CASE FILING VERSUS REVENUES.
SO PROBABLY NEED TO REDO THAT FOR YOU.
DID YOU GET THE, THE CASE FILING PIECE? YES.
I THINK IT SHOWS THAT THE CASE FILING WAS WAY DOWN.
THIS YEAR COMPARED TO LAST YEAR.
SO YOU WOULD EXPECT THAT THE REVENUES TO BE
THIS IS TOTAL COLLECTIONS THAT IS RECEDED INTO
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THE BANK ACCOUNT BY COUNTY TREASURY.SO OUR REPORT WOULD, WOULD HAVE THE REVENUES WOULD BE WHAT WE COLLECT BY THE D COURT.
IT WOULD ALSO INCLUDE ANY DELINQUENT FIND.
I'M NOT SURE IF LAURA IS YOUR, DOES THAT GET, DO YOU CUT FROM JPS? WE DO.
SO I DON'T KNOW THAT WE'RE ACCURATELY SHOWING YOU THAT THE REVENUES, BECAUSE A LOT OF THE MONEY'S COME FROM WE NEED TO THAT YOU RECEIPT.
WELL, I MEAN IF YOU LOOK AT, DO YOU GET THAT REPORT THAT YEAH, I LOOK AT IT.
I I LOOKED AT IT OVER THE WEEKEND.
I MEAN IT'S, IT'S UH, IT'S SOMETHING I THINK WE NEED TO REALLY FOCUS ON TO SEE WHAT'S, WHAT'S HAPPENING.
I THINK WE HAVE ONE COURT THAT IS PERHAPS NOT, UH, I MEAN JUST NOT PAYING FOR SELF ACTION AND UH, OR WAS ONE KAREN RUN THAT CHECK.
SEE AND THAT MAY BE PREDICTED, BUT UH, YEAH, SO BASICALLY IF WE RECEIVE IT, IT'S GONNA BE IN THE REPORT MAY OF THE JP COURT RECEIPT.
THAT MAY BE ANOTHER THING WE MIGHT WANNA PUT ON THE AGENDA.
THE WORKSHOP IS GET AN UPDATE FROM EVERYBODY I LOOKING AT LOOK LIKE THE COURT CASES AND FILINGS ARE DONE UNIFORMLY ACROSS THE FOUR PRECINCTS.
I JUST ANALYZED THE, UH, ADULT TRAFFIC AND CIVIL CASES AND THEY'RE BOTH ABOUT THE SAME.
THEY'RE DOWN 25% SO THEY DON'T HAVE THE CASES FILED.
AND IF YOU'D LIKE, WE CAN PROVIDE A REPORT THAT SHOWS WHO'S FILING THE CASES.
I'VE GOT THAT FILE, BARBARA, I GET THAT FROM HER.
I CAN TELL YOU WHO WROTE, WHO WROTE THE TICKET AND MANY TICKET FOR, BUT IT WAS PAID.
I CAN'T TELL YOU ABOUT DPS OR SHERIFF THE AMOUNT OF TICKETS THAT WERE WRITTEN, UH, PER CONSTABLE OR DEPUTY CONSTABLE.
THEN REST OF 'EM WOULD BE EITHER WRITTEN BY DPS OR SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT BY OPERATOR BY, WELL IT IS, THERE'S STILL DOUBT 25.
I MEAN IT'S, IT'S PRETTY, IT'S PRETTY DRAMATIC.
THAT'S THE REASON WHENEVER JUDGE, UH, MARTIN SET ABOUT DOING THE WARRANT ROUNDUP THAT THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING THAT WE'RE POST SHERIFF.
I DUNNO WHETHER YOU HAD ANY COMMENTS ABOUT THAT.
IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT WE'RE NOT HAVING NEAR AS MANY DPS CASES FILED.
UH, I DON'T, I COULDN'T, YOU KNOW, HAVE NO WAY KNOWING THAT.
UM, I, I DON'T SEE 'EM OUT AT THE OFFICE UNLESS GETTING PAPERWORK FOR ARREST.
SO YOU'LL BE REST THE PEOPLE COUNTY GOING WARRANT, SO THEY STOP ON TRAFFIC.
WELL, MAYBE PEOPLE ARE DRIVING.
EVERYBODY YOU'RE NOT DRIVING WARRANT ROUNDUPS ARE, ARE PRETTY GOOD WAYS OF GETTING MONEY.
BUT THEN YOU, YOU TAX THE, UH, SHERIFF'S OFFICE AND THE POLICE DEPARTMENTS BECAUSE OF EVERYTHING YOU HAVE TO, EVERYBODY HAD TO GO OUT AND START WORKING.
PLUS THAT DOESN'T SPEAK TO NEW REVENUES.
PARDON? DOES THAT DOESN'T SPEAK TO NEW REVENUES.
THAT ONLY SPEAKS TO THE, WE'RE GONNA WRITE TICKETS TODAY.
BUT YOU CARRYING ACCOUNTS RECEIVABLE ON THE BOOK, UNDERSTAND THAT SOME OF THOSE UNDERSTAND.
WE'RE NOT WRITING, WE'RE NOT WRITING AS MANY TICKETS AS WE PROBABLY NEED TO DO SO, AND IT'S WORTH LOOKING AT.
DO I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE, THE OFFICER'S REPORT FOR JANUARY, 2014? ACCEPT, I'M SORRY.
I THINK WE ACCEPT ALL THIS REPORT.
WE HAVE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE AUDIT REPORT AND HAVE A SECOND, UH, COMMISSIONER ROSA.
I THINK WE AND UH, DISCUSS, CONSIDER PURCHASE OF A CALLED PRECINCT THREE ROAD BRIDGE WITH THE BUYBACK OPTION.
UH, JIM, I BELIEVE YOU HAVE A COPY OF THAT.
UH, COMMISSIONER IS REQUESTING A PURCHASE OF A ONE 40 M MOTOR AND THE, UH, TOTAL TWO HUNDRED AND SEVENTY THREE EIGHTY A BUYBACK 36 MONTHS.
AND THAT IS ON A, UH, BIBLE CONTRACT 4 24 DASH 13.
UH, MEET REQUIREMENTS OUT WHAT WE'VE DONE IN THE PAST,
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SEEKING PERMISSION TO MAKE FROM POINT, I CAN'T REMEMBER EXACTLY HOW MUCH IT BOUGHT, BUT IT BOUGHT, SO THAT'S WHAT I'M DOING TODAY, IS REPLACING MACHINE, NOT JUST NEED AN EXTRA MACHINE.SO HOW MANY UPGRADE YOU GOT? WE JUST CAN'T GET SOME MOISTURE WE BEHIND IS A STICK OR IS IT GOT BOY, PROBABLY A STICK.
DIDN'T UH, HAD THERE BEEN SOME TROUBLE THOSE STICK DRIVES MOTOR GRADERS OR DID THEY GET THAT WORKED OUT? I THOUGHT THERE WAS ONE UP THAT THEY HAD DEMOED OVER.
MAYBE IT WAS FIRST YEAR DEMOED MORE PRECINCT THREE THAT RAN OFF WITH OPERATOR TWO THREE TIRES.
SO, AND ACCORDING TO THE CAT GUY, IT WAS SOME KIND OF FREIGHT SEAL IN IT.
IT WAS ONLY ONE OR TWO IN THE, IN THE UNITED STATES OR WORLD THAT DID THAT.
BUT IT HAPPENED DOWN ON YOUR GUY.
AND THAT WAS ONE THEY WERE DEMOING? NO, IT WAS ONE THEY BOUGHT.
I THINK IT HAD SOME KIND OF VALVE ISSUE THAT THEY STEERING THAT BAD.
I THINK YOUR DRIVER REFUSED TO GET ONE OF 'EM AGAIN AFTER THAT.
I DON'T, YEAH, ON ROAD THEY WERE SPEED ROAD.
WHERE ARE WE GONNA, SO IS THIS GONNA PUT THE, IS THIS GONNA PUT THE COUNTY AND DEBT BY THIS OR ARE YOU GONNA PAY FOR CASH OR WHAT? PAY FOR IT EVERY, UH, EVERY YEAR.
THREE I THINK, I THINK WILL BE FINANCING THE UH, 73,000, UH, WELL 63,000 BECAUSE THE BUYBACK TWO GENERALLY FINANCE IT FOR 36 MONTHS ON EVERYTHING.
SO AT THE END OF THE 36 MONTHS YOU CAN PAY TWO 10 TO KEEP IT THING YOU GOTTA PAY INTEREST ON THE 2 73.
THEY DON'T GIVE BACK OR NOT THAT YOU ACTUALLY PURCHASING IT.
ARE YOU NOT MAKING PURCHASING THE WHOLE 273,000 MACHINE? I HAVEN'T SEEN THESE DOCUMENTS ON, YOU KNOW, YOU GOT A GOOD POINT.
I GUESS IT MAY BE DIFFERENT THAN THE M TRUCK, BUT THEY DO HOWEVER, HAVE COMMISSIONER WERE YOU, WERE, WERE YOU BUDGETING TO PULL OUT THE DOWN PAYMENT BECAUSE THEY'RE GONNA MAKE US PAY A DOWN PAYMENT LIKE THEY DID ON THE BAD TRUCKS.
I THINK I'VE GOT FUNDS AND MY COUNCIL, WHETHER IT'S ROT MATERIALS OR OKAY.
OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS ABOUT THE MOTIVATOR PRECINCT FREE.
ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO, UH, APPROVE.
HAVE A MOTION FROM UH, COMMISSIONER SHANE.
UH, ITEM NUMBER 12 IS TO DISCUSS CONSIDER LINE ITEM.
YOU GOT YOUR LINE ITEM TRANSFERS EMAILED TO YOU.
DID YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THOSE THAT YOU WANT DISCUSS OR ASK? NO MA'AM.
EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS WHAT THE 4,000 FOR AND WE HAVE TO OUTLAY WHAT THAT WAS FOR, EVEN THOUGH I HAD MONEY IN THERE ALREADY.
I'M PUTTING THAT ADDITIONAL FOUR TO BUY A PRECINCT FOR CONSTABLE, A USED VEHICLE IN THE CITY OF MAY.
THIS WAS THE VEHICLE THAT WAS CORRECT AND I THINK OF MAYBANK HAD OFFERED,
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WORKED WITH, UH, HAVE YOU HAD AN INTERLOCAL OR SOMETHING AGREEMENT THAT WAS SOLD AS IS AND UM, INCLUDE THE RADAR AND THAT BAGGAGE I 80,000 MILES ON THAT.SO IS THIS FUND ALREADY DOWN THAT WE HAD TO INJECT THE 4,000 OR, OR ARE WE JUST COVERING? NO, I WANNA EXPLAIN IT TO WHY I ASKED.
THERE'S ALSO $135,000 IN THE REVENUE SIDE TO BALANCE IT THAT I'M GOING PAY THE FOUR VEHICLES FOR THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT AND THAT INCLUDED THE FOUR VEHICLES PLUS EQUIPMENT TO PUT IN THOSE FOUR VEHICLES.
SO I DIDN'T WANT TO TAKE AWAY FROM WHAT Y'ALL HAD GRANTED THE SHERIFF TO PAY FOR ANOTHER VEHICLE.
AND THAT'S WHY I WANT TO TRANSFER THAT 4,000 TO PAY FOR AND THAT'S WHY I'M DOING THAT BECAUSE WOULDN'T IT BE FAIR TO TAKE 4,000 FROM THE SHERIFF ON HIS FOUR VEHICLES? YOU KNOW, HIS 90, WHAT WAS IT? WHAT KIND OF IS THE ANIMAL CONTROL? YOU GOT TWO HOE AND TWO PICKUPS.
AND THEY HAVE TO BE EQUIPPED AND EVERYTHING, SO I WANTED TO MAKE SURE I DIDN'T TAKE AWAY FROM THAT PART OF IT.
SO THAT'S WHY I'M, I'M MOVING 4,000 TO COVER JUST THE PURCHASE OF THAT VEHICLE FROM MY BANK VEHICLE.
OTHER QUESTIONS? I HAVE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE LINE ITEM TRANSFERS AS REQUESTED BY THE, SO MAY I HAVE A MOTION FROM, UH, MR. MANNING? DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND.
UH, COMMISSIONER SHANE, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
UH, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER P FOR PAYMENT ITEM NUMBER FOR THE 13TH.
SO THERE HADN'T BEEN ANY CHANGES TO THE ONES THAT Y'ALL RECEIVED THROUGH EMAIL? THEY'RE ALL THE SAME.
THERE WAS AN INVOICE IN THERE RIGHT THERE.
WELL, I WAS TOLD THAT A TYPE WORK, WHETHER PERMIT OR SOMETHING THAT I CALL BECAUSE I THAT'S CONTRACT.
GOTTA DO THAT TYPE OF WORK AND THEN HE COMES BACK AND LATER ON AND I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THE LATER ON WORK GONNA COST EXACTLY FOR THAT.
ONCE AGAIN, I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THAT SCOPE OF WORK.
WHERE ARE WE GETTING HIM TO, UH, FOR HIM IF, SEE IF THAT'S HIS RESPONSIBILITY TO OUR RESPONSIBILITY.
WHAT ABOUT THE FUTURE? WHAT ABOUT THE INSPECTION ON AFTER HE REVIEWED THE PLANS AND TO GET THE FINAL INSPECTION ON YOU HAVE TO USE SOMEBODY.
THE PLANS WE'RE GONNA HAVE, THAT'S THE EMPLOYEE BENEFIT WELLNESS PROGRAM.
I COME BACK AND ASK YOU TO LET YOU CARRY OVER FOR LAURIE SO SHE COULD DO PART BECAUSE THAT MONEY COMES FROM TAG.
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WELL IT'S USE IS THERE A GOOD WAY? I THINK OF WE'VE PARTNERED WITH MANY IN A MONTH PERMIT FEE OR SOMETHING WE CAN HOLD RIGHT? I WHAT? THE TOTAL COST BE PROGRAM? YEAH, SHE DID, SHE SENT THAT TO ALL THE EMPLOYEES TO BE PASSED AROUND.IS THAT THE BEST DEAL WE CAN GET FOR THAT CAME THROUGH THAT.
IT, I'M NOT SURE YOU'RE AWARE.
I KNEW THAT THERE CONSTRUCTION WHERE THEY TO DIG UP UNDER THE BUILDING AND MANUALLY GO IN THERE? YES.
UH, THAT, UH, ONE PORTION, ONE AREA ABOUT INSURANCE.
I'LL CHECK WITH THE, I'LL CHECK WITH AND HOW OLD IS BUILDING? OLD ONE HIGH SCHOOL TEACHER.
YEAH, IT KIND OF DOES LOOK LIKE THAT, DIDN'T IT? OUTSIDE BUILDING SEPARATE CONSTABLE RESTITUTION.
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1213.THAT ASBESTOS SURVEY THAT THEY HAD TO DO? YEAH.
WAS TWO WAS IT TWO ASBESTOS SURVEYS? YES.
YOU WANNA SEE THE INVOICES? REALLY? OKAY.
DO Y'ALL WANT SEE THOSE INVOICES? NO.
WAS TWO IT TWO INVOICES? I I THOUGHT WE'D ALREADY DONE THAT ONE TIME.
I'D ALREADY APPROVED AS TESTING THINGS.
SEEMED LIKE I'D ALREADY SEEN THAT BEFORE.
I, SO IT SHOULD, SHOULD BEEN A WHILE BACK.
CAN YOU SEE THE DATES ON THOSE? ON WHAT? COME ON.
YOU KNOW HE'S GONNA WORRY ABOUT IT UNTIL HE JUST LOOK AT IT.
JUST SEEMED LIKE YOU'VE ALREADY SEEN THAT BEFORE.
MAYBE JUDGE, THEY DID GO A LONG TIME AGO.
HERE THESE ARE THE TWO THAT YOUR EIGHT MANUAL AND THESE, THESE MAY BE THE ONE TESTING? YES.