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MIKE BEAN HERE THIS MORNING AT OUR REGULAR MEETING.

UH, IT'S NINE 30 AND WE WILL BEGIN.

UH, IF YOU WISH TO ADDRESS THE COURT, WE HAVE A SIGN IN SHEET HERE THAT, UH, UH, THAT YOU'LL NEED TO, UH, FILL OUT.

AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE COPIES OF EXTRA COPIES OF THE AGENDA.

UH, BUT WE APPRECIATE EVERYONE BEING HERE THIS MORNING.

UH, WE'LL START WITH OUR INVOCATION AND ALSO WE'LL HAVE THE, UH, ALLEGIANCE TO BOTH OUR FLAGS.

AND THEN IF YOU DO WISH TO ADDRESS THE COURT, UH, WE WILL, UH, ASK YOU TO, UH, UH, DO THAT RIGHT AFTER WE GET THROUGH, BEFORE WE MOVE INTO OUR, OUR REGULAR MEETING.

SO IF YOU'LL STAND WITH ME NOW, WE'LL HAVE OUR INVITATION.

MOST GRACIOUS, THE CALL, WE THANK YOU FOR TODAY.

WE THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY THAT WE HAVE TOGETHER, TOGETHER AS MEMBERS OF THIS COMMUNITY AND MEMBERS OF THIS COUNTY, UH, TO TALK ABOUT THE BUSINESS OF THIS COUNTY.

UH, LORD, WE THANK YOU FOR OUR GREAT NATION.

UH, WE THANK YOU FOR THE LIBERTIES AND ALL OF THE, UH, FREEDOMS THAT WE HAVE THAT SOMETIMES WE TAKE FOR GRANTED.

LORD, WE PRAY ESPECIALLY THIS MORNING FOR OUR SOLDIERS THAT, UH, UH, MEN AND WOMEN THAT ARE IN COMBAT, UH, ALL, UH, PARTICULARLY IN AFGHANISTAN AND ALL AROUND THE NATION, WE PRAY FOR THEM, THEIR SAFETY AND THEIR FAMILIES.

LORD, THANK YOU FOR LETTING US LIVE IN THIS BLESSED COUNTRY.

UH, THANK YOU FOR THE, UH, UH, THE, THE VERY, UH, IDEA THAT WE HAVE THE FREEDOMS THAT MANY, MANY OTHER COUNTRIES HAVE NO CONCEPT OF.

LORD, AS WE, UH, GO ABOUT OUR BUSINESS TODAY, UH, GIVE US CLEAR HEADS AND, AND OPEN MINDS AS WE DISCUSS THE, UH, BUSINESS OF THE COUNTY.

UH, KEEP US SAFE.

THESE THINGS WE ASK HIM.

TH SONS HOLY NAME, AMEN.

I PLEDGE OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVIDUAL WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE.

HONOR, HONOR THE TEXAS FLAG.

I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE TEXASES, ONE STATE UNDER GOD, ONE AND INDIVISIBLE VERY MUCH HERE.

NO ONE.

I DON'T BELIEVE WE HAVE ANY ONE THAT WISHES TO ADDRESS THE COURT AT THIS POINT.

SO WE WILL GO AHEAD AND MOVE INTO THE CONSENT AGENDA.

AND WE HAVE SEVERAL ITEMS, UH, THERE.

UH, ITEM A IS TO CONSIDER ACCEPTANCE SUBMITTED FROM THE JANUARY 13TH, THE 14TH, 23RD, 27TH, AND FEBRUARY 10TH, UH, MEETINGS.

UH, ALSO ITEM B IS TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER APPROVING SALE OF PROPERTY, A 2 1 9 PROPERTY ACCOUNT.

UH, I'M NOT GONNA READ ALL NUMBERS.

YOU CAN, UH, IT'S IN SHADY LANE AND I BELIEVE IT'S IN KAUFFMAN COUNTY PRECINCT.

A ACTUALLY, IT NEEDS TO BE A CORRECTION.

OKAY.

UM, IT IS NOT SHADY LANE, UH, IT IS MOUNTAIN VIEW AND I THOUGHT THE ROAD MAY HAVE BEEN RENAMED 'CAUSE THE ROAD IS NON-EXISTENT, BUT IT'S ACTUALLY GATED OFF BEFORE YOU CAN EVEN GET NEAR THIS PROPERTY.

SO IT IS MOUNTAIN VIEW.

IT IS MOUNTAIN VIEW.

OKAY.

YOU GUYS, THE PROPERTY NUMBER AS FAR AS I KNOW IS CORRECT.

THE PROPERTY NUMBERS ARE CORRECT? YES.

IT'S A, IT'S MIS THE STREET WAS MISNAMED.

WE'LL GO AHEAD AND MAKE THAT MOUNTAIN CORRECTION, BUT IT IS IN PRECINCT ONE FOR THAT QUESTION.

YES.

OKAY.

UH, ALSO TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER REVIEWING MEMBERSHIP WITH THE TEXAS CONFERENCE, SUBURBAN COUNTIES AND PAYING ANNUAL DUES.

ITEM D IS TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER RENEWING MEMBERSHIP WITH THE NORTH AND EAST TEXAS COUNTY JUDGES AND COMMISSIONERS ASSOCIATION AND PAYING COUNTY VIEWS.

E IS TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER APPROVING DISBURSEMENT OF THE UNCLAIMED, UH, CAPITAL CREDITS FUND.

UH, E OR I'M SORRY, F IS TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER REVIEWING MEMBERSHIP WITH NORTHEAST REGIONAL MOBILITY AUTHORITY AND PAYING ANNUAL DUES.

G IS TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER REVIEWING MEMBERSHIP WITH THE TEXAS ASSOCIATION OF COUNTIES AND PAYING ANNUAL ABUSE.

AND THEN, UH, H IS TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER APPROVING DEPUTATIONS OF DALLAS A FAUS.

I'M NOT SURE ABOUT THAT LAST NAME.

UH, JAMES WESTBROOK WESTBROOK, WILLIAM R. GRIFFIN.

AND MICHAEL M. THOMPSON FOR THE KAUFMAN COUNTY SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT.

DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT ANY OF THOSE? I BELIEVE WE'VE RECEIVED SOME REVISED MINUTES THIS MORNING, UH, ON A COUPLE OF THEM.

AND I THINK EVERYBODY HAS COPIES OF THAT ON THE FIRST ITEM.

CAN YOU EXPLAIN THAT? UH, APPROVE THE DIS UNCLAIMED CAPITAL FUND.

YEAH.

WE DID THIS, UH, LAST YEAR.

THAT IS CREDITS THAT, UH, WHENEVER THE PATRIOTS DIVIDENDS ARE DISTRIBUTED

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BY THE TRENT VALLEY ELECTRIC COOPERATIVE AS WELL AS THE FARMER'S ELECTRIC COOPERATIVE, IF THOSE GO UNCLAIMED, THEN IF WE ASK FOR THEM, THEY WILL BE GIVEN TO THE COUNTY.

AND IT DOESN'T AMOUNT TO VERY MUCH, IF I REMEMBER LAST YEAR WAS JUST A FEW HUNDRED DOLLARS, BUT WE DO HAVE TO APPROVE ASKING FOR THEM.

AND, AND THEN WE'LL WRITE THE CO-OPS ASKING THAT THEY BE REDISTRIBUTED TO US.

THAT GOES INTO THE GENERAL FUNDS.

YEAH.

IF I REMEMBER COMMISSIONERS.

JUST, JUST A VERY SMALL AMOUNT.

BUT IF IT DOES, IT GOES BACK TO THE STATE AND, YOU KNOW, THEY'LL KEEP DEER.

THE COUNTY.

ABSOLUTELY.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THIS, UH, MEMBERSHIP, DUDE, WE GOT WITH TAT NOW THIS IS, UH, CONFERENCE OF BOURBON COUNTIES.

COUNTIES MIGHT WANT GET 'EM, CHANGE THE, THE JUDGE'S NAME.

OKAY.

I, WELL, I NUMBER, WELL, I SEE IT ON THE AGENDA ACTUALLY, BUT THERE'S INVOICE FOR CC IN HERE TO JUDGE.

MAYBE, MAYBE HE'LL PAY FOR IT.

WELL, I, WE TRY, YOU KNOW, PUT ITEM NUMBER CI BELIEVE.

YEAH, I DIDN'T CATCH THAT.

YEAH, WE NEED TO CHECK THAT OUT.

SO, BUT AS FAR C COUNTY, SO GOOD POINT.

OTHER, OTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT ANY ITEM ON THE CONSENT AGENDA? I MAY, WE EXCEPT APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA IS WRITTEN SECOND WITH THE, WITH WITH THE CHANGES.

YEAH.

WITH APPROVE CHANGES, YES.

THE CHANGES THAT WE MADE, UH, COMMISSIONER CLARK MAKES THAT MOTION AND COMMISSIONER MANNING SECOND MOTION, UH, TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA WITH THE CHANGES THAT WE'VE MADE.

UH, ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

THOSE OPPOSED? ALRIGHT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

ITEM NUMBER THREE IS, UH, UH, CONSIDERATION AND DISCUSSION WITH LEGAL COUNSEL OF ALLISON BASS AND MCGEE, LLP REGARDING THE POTENTIAL KAUFMAN COUNTY SOLID WASTE ORDINANCE AND ANY POTENTIAL ACTION NEEDED.

AND, UH, I'VE DISCUSSED WITH ARE PLEASED TO HAVE JIM ALLISON HERE WITH US.

WE'VE CONTRACTED WITH HIS FIRM, UH, TO, UH, LEAD US THROUGH THIS PROCESS.

AND, UH, IN TALKING WITH, UH, MR. ALLISON, WE WILL NEED TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSIONS.

SO, UH, WE, WHAT WE WILL DO, RATHER THAN ASKING THE AUDIENCE TO LEAVE, WE'LL GO DOWN THE END OF THE HALL AND WE HAVE A CONFERENCE ROOM DOWN THERE THAT WE CAN, UH, THAT WE CAN UTILIZE.

SO DO I HAVE A MOTION TO, UH, EXIT THE REGULAR SESSION AND ENTER INTO, UH, THE, UH, CLOSED SESSION? SO MAY, UH, COMMISSIONER ROSA MAKES THAT MOTION TO HAVE A SECOND, SECOND, UH, COMMISSIONER MANNY SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

THOSE OPPOSED? DO WE NEED TO READ WHILE THE SECTION THAT WE'RE GOING TO SESSION FOUR, UH, SECTION 5 5 1 0 7 1 IS REASONABLY GOING INTO THAT.

I'M SORRY, I DIDN'T THAT.

SO, AND I'LL KEEP THE CERTIFIED AGENDA MYSELF, WE'LL DISMISS FOR A LITTLE BIT AND GO DOWN TO THE OTHER END.

WE'LL COME BACK MOMENTARILY.

I HOPE THAT THAT WAS ALL ABOUT, THERE'S NO WAY, CALL THE MEETING AND I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO, UH, REENTER OPEN SESSION.

SO MAY, UH, COMMISSIONER MANNING, UH, MAKES THAT MOTION AND COMMISSIONER SHANE SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

AYE.

ALRIGHTYY, I'D LIKE TO CALL ON, UH, UH, JIM ALLISON, UH, TO COME FORWARD AND DISCUSS WITH THE, UH, PUBLIC AS WELL AS THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT.

UH, ITEM NUMBER THREE THAT WE'VE BEEN IN EXECUTIVE SESSION.

THANK YOU, JUDGE.

UH, UH, AS YOU KNOW, NO ACTIONS TAKEN IN THE EXECUTIVE SESSION.

AND, UH, THE REASON FOR THE EXECUTIVE SESSION IS IF MEMBERS OF THE COURT HAVE QUESTIONS OF LEGAL MATTERS, IF THEY WANT TO ASK ME, CAN WE DO THIS OR CAN WE DO THAT UNDER THE LAW? I'M REQUIRED TO GIVE THEM THAT ADVICE IN CONFIDENCE, JUST LIKE IF YOU REMAIN WITH YOUR PRIVATE ATTORNEY.

UM, SO THAT'S WHAT WE DO IS THEY ASK ME QUESTIONS ON THE LEGAL SIDE OF IT.

UM, BUT I ALSO THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT, UH, WE DISCUSS IN THE PUBLIC MEETING, UM, WHAT IS I'M HERE FOR TODAY.

UH, THE, UH, TEXAS LEGISLATURE AND HAS GIVEN COUNTIES SOME LIMITED AUTHORITY TO CONTROL THE DISPOSAL OF SOLID WASTE IN THE COUNTY IN SECTION 360 4 0.012 OF THE HEALTH AND SAFETY CODE.

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UM, THEY HAVE SAID THAT A COUNTY CAN CONTROL WHERE SOLID WASTE IS DISPOSED OF.

UH, AND THEN THEY PUT IN SOME EXCEPTIONS, LIKE LEGISLATOR ALWAYS DOES, UM, NOTHING, THEY CANNOT CONTROL ANYTHING INSIDE AN INCORPORATED CITY THAT'S STILL CITIES ISSUES.

THEY STILL, UH, ALL, THEY'RE STILL CITY REGULATED INSIDE THE CITY.

UH, THEY CANNOT, UH, CONTROL DISPOSAL ON ANY SITE THAT'S ALREADY PERMITTED.

UH, THERE'S ALREADY A LANDFILL OUT THERE EXPOSED TO SOLID WASTE.

IT'S, UH, BY STATUTE, WHAT WE CALL GRANDFATHERED, AND IT'S, UH, NOT SUBJECT TO COUNTY CONTROL.

UH, AND THERE'S EXCEPTION FOR WASTE THAT'S DISPOSED OF BY, UH, ENTITY OR, UH, USING, UH, PLANT THAT GENERATES WASTE.

AND NOW THEIR OWN LAND PRIVATE DISPOSAL, UH, THERE'S AN EXCEPTION FOR THEM.

UH, AND THEN THE, THE, THE LEGISLATURE SAID, AND IT, BY THE WAY, IF YOU'RE GOING TO EXERCISE THIS LOCAL CONTROL AND HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY ABOUT WHERE SOLID WASTE DISPOSAL IN THE COUNTY, YOU MUST DECLARE SOME AREA WHERE IT'S NOT PROHIBITED.

UH, SO YOU'VE GOT TO, YOU CAN'T JUST SAY NO LANDFILLS ANYWHERE IN THE COUNTY, EVER.

UH, YOU'VE GOT TO DECLARE SOMEPLACE IN THE COUNTY WHERE IT'S NOT PROHIBITED.

AND BY DOING THAT, THEN THE COUNTY IS IN A POSITION TO, UH, HAVE SOME SUPERVISION, SOME CONTROL, UH, OVER WHERE LANDFILLS ARE LOCATED IN THE COUNTY.

IF YOU DON'T HAVE THAT ORDINANCE AND, AND SOMEONE FILES AN APPLICATION WITH THE TEXAS COMMISSION ON ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY OR LANDFILL IN THIS COUNTY, YOUR COMMISSIONER'S COURT, YOUR COUNTY HAS NOTHING TO SAID ABOUT IT.

IT GOES STRAIGHT TO AUSTIN.

THEY MAKE THE DETERMINATION AND THERE'S NO INVOLVEMENT BY THE COUNTY.

THEY CAN PETITION, THEY CAN SEND IN RECOMMENDATIONS BECAUSE THERE'S NO LOCAL CONTROL.

UM, SO THE ONLY WAY TO HAVE ANY IS TO PUT AN ORDINANCE IN PLACE AND, UH, DO IT BEFORE SOMEONE FILES AN APPLICATION FOR A LANDFILL.

AND, UH, MAKE SURE YOU DECLARE SOME AREA WHERE IT'S NOT PROHIBITED.

WELL, WE HAVE IN THIS COUNTY ALREADY ONE PERMITTED LANDFILL.

UH, THE CITY OF TAROT HAS A PERMIT LANDFILL.

SO THAT'S AN AREA THAT CAN BE DECLARED, UH, IS AN AREA WHERE IT'S NOT PROHIBITED.

UH, FRANKLY, WE COULDN'T PROHIBIT IT THERE IN, WE ALREADY HAVE A PERMIT, BUT, UM, THAT'S, THAT CAN TAKE CARE OF THAT FOR NOW.

UM, BUT BEFORE THE COUNTY COULD EVEN CONSIDER IN ORDINANCE, THEY MUST GIVE NOTICE, RUN THE NOTICE IN THE NEWSPAPER, AT LEAST TWICE, PUBLISH THE ENTIRE ORDINANCE, UH, PROPOSED ORDINANCE IN THE NEWSPAPER AT LEAST TWICE.

AND WE RECOMMEND THAT THEY DO WHAT'S CALLED A TAKINGS IMPACT ASSESSMENT.

THAT'S A LONG TERM FOR EVALUATE WHETHER OR NOT THIS ORDINANCE WILL LOWER THE VALUE OF PROPERTY, MAY ACTUALLY RAISE THE VALUE OF PROPERTY, BUT WE'RE NOT, NOT TOLD TO CONSIDER THAT.

UM, BUT, UH, SO THAT TAKING'S IMPACT ASSESSMENT HAS TO BE PREPARED AS WELL.

AND THEN, UM, NO DESTROYING THE PAPER, PUBLIC HEARING HELD, THEN THEY CAN CONSIDER THE ORDINANCE.

SO THEY COULD NOT CONSIDER THE ORDINANCE TODAY.

THEY WANTED TO NOTICE HAS TO BE PUBLISHED, HEARING HELD, THEN THE ORDINANCE CAN BE TAKEN UP TO CONSIDER.

UM, WHAT THEY CAN DO TODAY IF THEY CHOOSE TO, IS THEY CAN INSTRUCT US TO BRING FORWARD THE TAKING'S IMPACT ASSESSMENT AND THE DRAFT ORDINANCE AND RUN THE NOTICES IN THE PAPER, UM, FOR A DATE AND TIME, AT LEAST 30 DAYS IN ADVANCE OF THE DAY OF, UH, AFTER THE DATE OF PUBLICATION AND COME BACK FOR HEARING.

AND THAT'S WHAT'S POTENTIALLY BEFORE YOU TODAY, JUDGE COMMISSIONERS, Y'ALL HAVE ANY, UH, QUESTIONS? WE DO HAVE A COPY OF A PROPOSED ORDER OF THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT THAT, UH, WOULD START THIS PROCESS THAT I HAVE A MOTION SUMMARY MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER , UH, SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER SHANE.

ARE THERE FURTHER, UH, QUESTIONS OR ANY, ANY OTHER COMMENTS FROM ANYONE? NOT ALL.

DO WE NEED TO READ THAT? UH, WE WILL NEED TO GO AHEAD IF YOU WOULD, JIMMY.

YEAH.

OKAY.

UH, IT'S, IT'S A, UH, ORDER CONCERNING PREPARATION OF SOLID WASTE ORDINANCE, A PROPOSED TAKINGS IMPACT ASSESSMENT AND NOTICE OF HEARING ON THE PROPOSED SOLID WASTE ORDINANCE.

OKAY.

THAT'S YOUR MOTION? YES.

OKAY.

AND THEN SECOND, UH, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

THOSE OPPOSED? OKAY.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

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UH, AND WE'LL COORDINATE WITH YOUR, YOUR OFFICE ON THE DATE OF THE HEARING.

UH, AND I'LL BE IN CONTACT WITH YOU IF YOU'LL LOOK AT THE CALENDAR AND SEE WHAT THE APPROPRIATE DATE FOR THE COMMERS TO RECONVENE FOR THAT HEARING.

WE'LL GIVE IT THE NEWSPAPER AND, UM, GET THAT PUBLICATION STARTED.

THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE WITH US TODAY.

THANK YOU.

ALRIGHTY.

JIM, I, THE NEXT ITEM TOO, I'M HOPING THAT YOU STAY HERE FOR THAT .

YEAH.

UH, THE NEXT ITEM IS, UH, NUMBER FOUR TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER FINAL APPROVAL OF THE KAUFMAN COUNTY ENERGY TRANSPORTATION REINVESTMENT ZONE NUMBER ONE.

YOU HAVE COPIES OF THAT, OR YOU HAD A COPY OF THAT.

AND I'M, UH, THIS IS THE FINAL, UH, UH, ORDER AND, UH, UH, DESIGNATING THE ZONE.

I THINK THE ONLY, UH, CHANGES THAT WE'VE MADE IS ON PAGE FOUR, UH, IF WE HAVE, UH, ON THE MEMBERS OF THE ADVISORY BOARD, TRICIA SMITH, CAROL SHIELDS, LARRY T, DOUG LANE, AND CRAIG AIKEN.

I THINK CRAIG'S NAME WAS LISTED AS BRAD AIKEN ON THE PREVIOUS, UH, THING.

SO, WE'LL, IT SHOULD BE CRAIG.

SO WE WILL, UH, COME BACK AND, UH, WE'LL JUST MAXIMIZE A OFFICIAL, UH, ORDER.

SO, UH, JIM IS HERE AND HE HAS AGREED TO CARRY THESE BACK, UH, WITH HIM TODAY.

WE'LL NEED TO SIGN THEM.

UH, AND THIS DOES SET UP THE C TUR ZONE FOR US.

SO WHAT'S YOUR PLEASURE? HAVE QUESTION ON THE, UH, HAVE YOU GOT THE COPY OF THIS IN EXHIBIT A, UH, WHERE, WHERE, WHERE IT'S GOT THE, UH, DESCRIPTION OF THE ZONE, LEGAL DESCRIPTION ZONE, RIGHT? YOU LIKE ME TO, IT'S GOING DOWN THE ENTIRE ROAD.

DOES THAT ROAD HAVE TO BE SURVEYED? NO.

NO, IT DOES NOT.

UH, WOULD I ME TO GIVE A BRIEF, UH, OVERVIEW OF SURE.

WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE.

UM, FOR THE FIRST TIME IN 70 YEARS, THE LEGISLATURE ACTUALLY APPROPRIATED SOME STATE MONEY FOR COUNTY ROADS.

UH, THEY APPROPRIATED $225 MILLION STATEWIDE FOR THE REPAIR AND REHABILITATION OF COUNTY ROADS.

UM, THEY SET UP A GRANT PROGRAM IN ORDER TO DISTRIBUTE THAT MONEY.

THEY NEVER DO ANYTHING SIMPLE.

THEY PUT A WHOLE BUNCH OF HOOPS THAT THE COUNTY HAS TO JUMP THROUGH IN ORDER TO GET THE GRANT.

UM, AND, AND THEY SAID THAT A COUNTY IN ORDER TO PARTICIPATE IN THESE GRANTS AND GET ITS SHARE IS $225 MILLION WILL HAVE TO, UH, ONE, UH, MATCH THE EXPENDITURE ON A 80% STATE, 20% COUNTY, THERE IS A NINE 10 FOR ECONOMICALLY DISADVANTAGED COUNTIES, BUT I DON'T BELIEVE Y'ALL QUALIFY FOR US.

MM-HMM .

Y'ALL DO QUALIFY AT ONE TIME.

BEING POOR IS PAID OFF .

UH, SO YOU ONLY HAVE TO COME UP WITH 10% TO MATCH THE STATE'S 90%.

UH, THAT MAKES IT FURTHER.

UM, AND, UH, THEY SAID, WE'LL DO, WE'LL PUT THIS MATCH UP.

YOU CAN USE IT ON THE COUNTY ROADS.

YOU WILL HAVE TO GIVE US A LIST OF PROJECTS THAT YOU PROPOSED TO USE IT ON, AND YOU CAN PUT MORE PROJECTS ON THERE, AND YOU'RE GONNA GET MONEY FOR IT.

SO YOU CAN MOVE THE MONEY AROUND AND CHANGE UP WHERE YOU'RE WORKING AND ALL THAT.

UH, AND, UH, YOU MIGHT GET SOME MORE MONEY.

WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT IN A MINUTE.

YOU HAVE TO, UH, FILE YOUR ROAD REPORTS, UH, ON YOUR CONDITIONING ROADS AND ADD IN A NEW ITEM TO THAT.

THEY WANT TO KNOW NOT ONLY, UH, HOW ARE THE ROADS RIGHT NOW AND WHAT WILL IT TAKE TO FIX 'EM UP.

THEY WANT TO KNOW WHAT'S CAUSING THE ROADS TO BREAK DOWN OR DEGRADE, AS THEY CALL IT, DEGRADATION.

WELL, ANYBODY THAT'S BEEN AROUND THE LAST 40 YEARS KNOWS THE ANSWER TO THAT.

WE'VE GOT MORE AND MORE HEAVY TRUCKS USING THESE COUNTY ROADS.

WE'RE NOT JUST DOING AGRICULTURE AND, UH, SOME RESIDENTIAL TRAFFIC ON THESE.

NOW WE'VE GOT COMMERCIAL VEHICLES, INDUSTRIAL VEHICLES, SOME PLACES, OIL AND GAS EQUIPMENT USING THEM.

UH, AND SO THEY'RE, THEY'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT ABLE TO SIGN AND BILL ROADS TO THAT LEVEL.

SO THEY WANTED TO PUT THAT IN THE ROAD REPORT.

UH, AND THEY ARE REQUIRING THAT YOU CREATE WHAT'S CALLED A COUNTY ENERGY TRANSPORTATION REINVESTMENT ZONE.

THAT'S A MOUTHFUL.

UM, WE HAD USED TRANSPORTATION REINVESTMENT ZONES OVER THE LAST 20 YEARS ON TECH STOCK PROJECTS, UH, WHERE THEY'D COME TO THE COUNTY AND SAY, WE WIDEN A STATE HIGHWAY.

WE NEED Y'ALL TO HELP WITH THE RIGHT OF WAY.

AND THE TRANSPORTATION REINVESTMENT ZONE IS A WAY TO, TO ACQUIRE THAT MONEY OVER TIME FROM THE INCREASED VALUE THAT TAKES

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PLACE ON THE ADJACENT PROPERTY WHEN YOU IMPROVE THE ROAD AND DEDICATE IT TO TRANSPORTATION.

AND SO THE STATE SAYS, WELL, WE'RE GOING TO CREATE THIS NEW ONE, AND WE WON'T EVER COUNT TO HAVE AT LEAST ONE GET THIS GRANT.

AND THEY DIDN'T SAY HOW BIG IT HAD TO BE OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

UH, IF YOU WERE, FRANKLY, THEY WERE AIMED PRIMARILY AT THE COUNTIES WITH VERY HEAVY NEW OIL AND GAS ACTIVITY, THE SO-CALLED SHELL ACTIVITY, WHERE THEIR ROADS ARE JUST OBLITERATED.

UH, AND THERE'S, THERE'S GOING TO BE, WE HOPE OIL AND GAS ACTIVITY IS GOING ON FOR THE NEXT 10 YEARS.

AND SO THEY GAVE THEM THIS REINVESTMENT ZONE AS A WAY TO COME UP WITH MORE LOCAL MONEY IN ORDER TO PUT ON THE ROADS.

BUT THEY WENT AHEAD AND SAID, EVERY COUNTY'S GONNA HAVE TO HAVE AT LEAST ONE TO GET THE GRANT.

SO THAT'S WHY YOU HAVE TO HAVE ONE.

MOST COUNTIES ARE DOING A VERY SMALL ONE, A VERY MINIMAL SIZED ONE, BECAUSE ONCE YOU CREATE IT AND PUT PROPERTY IN THAT ZONE, ANY INCREASED VALUE FROM THAT PROPERTY, THAT TAXES ARE DEDICATED TO TRANSPORTATION FOR 10 YEARS.

NOW, IT MAY BE IN THE FUTURE THAT YOU MAY WANT TO EXPAND THIS RESULT AND BRING MORE MONEY IN FOR TRANSPORTATION.

IT DOESN'T RAISE ANYBODY'S TAXES.

IT DOESN'T LOWER ANYBODY'S TAXES.

IT JUST DEDICATES THE TAXES TO TRANSPORTATION.

BUT YOU WANNA BE CAREFUL ABOUT THAT BECAUSE YOU ALSO HAVE TO FUND OTHER ACTIVITIES OF THE COUNTY, LIKE LAW ENFORCEMENT AND WHAT WE CALL THE GENERAL FUND.

UH, SO IF YOU DEDICATE ALL YOUR NEW VALUE TO TRANSPORTATION, THEN YOU WOULDN'T HAVE IT TO USE FOR GENERAL FUNDS.

SO YOU WANT TO BE CAREFUL WITH THESE.

BUT IT IS A NEW AND EFFECTIVE TOOL THAT I THINK COUNTY LIKE KAUFMAN, AS YOU STUDY YOUR TRANSPORTATION NEEDS OVER THE NEXT FEW YEARS, YOU MAY WELL WANT TO COME BACK AND REVISIT THE CTS AS WE CALL IT AND EXPAND IT.

BUT RIGHT NOW, MOST COUNTIES ARE GOING MINIMAL SIZE, GET THE GRANT, USE THAT MONEY, AND THEN COME BACK AND REVIEW WHAT YOU MIGHT NEED IN THE FUTURE FOR TRANSPORTATION.

SO THAT'S WHY, AS YOU KNOW, YOU HAD TO, UH, CREATE THE C TURS AND CREATE AN ADVISORY COMMITTEE FOR THE C TURS.

UH, ALL OF THAT'S THE REQUIREMENT OF STATE LAW IN ORDER TO GET THE GRANT, GRANT DEADLINE IS THE, WE'RE GONNA TAKE THESE APPLICATIONS THE WEEK OF MARCH 7TH THROUGH THE 14TH.

THE STATE HAS 30 DAYS TO REVIEW IT.

UH, AND THEY'LL MAKE A GRANT AWARD AND THEY CAN ASK FOR ADDITIONAL INFORMATION IF THEY NEED IT.

DON'T START SPENDING ANY MONEY UNTIL YOU GET THE GRANT AWARD.

'CAUSE THEY WON'T COUNT IT TOWARD THE MATCH.

IF IT'S SPENT, UH, AHEAD OF THAT TIME, THEN YOU'VE GOT UP TO THREE YEARS TO FINISH THESE PROJECTS.

SO IT'S A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO GET SOME WORK DONE ON OUR COUNTY ROADS WITH STATE PARTICIPATION.

UH, WE HOPE TO GO BACK TO 'EM NEXT SESSION, UH, AND SAY, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THAT WAS VERY HELPFUL.

HERE'S WHAT WE DID WITH IT.

BUT BY THE WAY, HERE'S THIS LIST OF PROJECTS THAT WE WERE NOT ABLE TO GET TO WITH THAT MONEY.

SO I HOPE YOU'VE PUT TOGETHER A PROJECT LIST THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT YOU NEED.

NOT JUST WHAT YOU CAN GET UNDER THE GRANT, BUT WHAT YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO USE IN THE STATE TO MAKE THIS A PRIORITY AGAIN.

AND WE HOPE THEY WILL DO THAT.

UM, THAT'S A REAL QUICK OVERVIEW.

UM, THE, UH, YOU'VE IDENTIFIED A COUNTY ROAD AND THE SEA CHURCH NEEDS TO HAVE AT LEAST ONE COUNTY ROAD IN IT.

AND, UH, YOU'RE NOT REQUIRED TO SURVEY IT.

THE STATUTE SAYS THAT THE, THE DESCRIPTION MUST BE SUFFICIENT THAT WE CAN DETERMINE THE BOUNDARIES OF THE SEA TUR.

AND THAT'S MOSTLY BECAUSE THE TAX ASSESSOR COLLECTOR EVERY YEAR HAS TO DETERMINE WHETHER VALUE IS GOING UP IN THAT C TUR OR NOT.

AND REMEMBER, SET THAT ASIDE FOR TRANSPORTATION.

SO YOU'VE DESIGNATED, UM, THE FULL EXISTING RIDE OF WAVE OF COUNTY ROAD 3 56, BEGINNING AT, UH, UH, THE INTERSECTION OF 3 56 AND COUNTY ROAD 3 55, EXTENDING IN THE GENERAL SOUTHEAST DIRECTION, A DISTANCE OF 2.2 MILES, MORE OR LESS TO THE POINT OF TERMINATION AS REFLECTED ON THE TAX AMOUNT AND INCLUDING THE FOLLOWING TAXABLE REAL PROPERTY INCORPORATED BY REFERENCE.

AND IS TAX ID NUMBER ONE EIGHT SEVEN TWO FOUR OH A HUNDRED SIXTY THREE ACRES OUT THE JAY WALKER SURVEY.

THAT'S VERY GOOD THAT THAT TRACKS WHAT MOST COUNTIES ARE DOING.

UM, AND, UH, IT WILL MEET THE REQUIREMENTS OF, FOR THE GRANT.

OUR INITIAL, UH, AMOUNT, PRELIMINARY AMOUNT THAT WE'VE, UH, UH, TEXT HAS GIVEN US IS 235,000.

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I WANNA EXPAND ON THAT, ON THAT.

YES, YOUR MOST OF THE MONEY IS GOING TO, UM, IT'S, UH, ALLOCATED BY FORMULA.

UH, AND IT'S, UH, UH, HAS SOME FACTORS IN IT BASED ON THE OILING GAS PERMITS AND STATE SERVICE TAXES, PAID AND DISPOSAL WELL, FLUIDS AND OVERWEIGHT TRUCK PERMITS.

UH, FRANKLY, THIS COUNTY'S DISTRIBUTION IS MOSTLY COMING FROM OVERWEIGHT TRUCK PERMITS, PART OF THE FORMULA.

UM, SO, UH, YOU'RE GETTING A SMALL AMOUNT GONNA COMPARATIVELY OF THE 225 MILLION, BUT IT'S A START.

UH, AND WE KNOW THAT NOT EVERY COUNTY WILL APPLY FOR ITS FULL ALLOCATION.

UH, I'VE HEARD ON SOME OF THAT ARE APPLYING FOR PART AND SOME THAT NOT GONNA APPLY AT ALL.

AND THE ONES THAT DON'T APPLY AT ALL, THEIR PART WILL BE ROLLED BACK INTO A REALLOCATION.

SO I THINK YOU, IF YOUR, UH, PROJECTS WILL COVER IT, YOU'LL GET MORE THAN THE, THE 225 MILLION, 2 35, 2 35, HOW MUCH MORE WE WON'T KNOW UNTIL ALL THE APPLICATIONS COME IN.

UM, BUT EVERY A LITTLE BIT HELPS.

ABSOLUTELY.

THANK YOU FOR THAT GOOD EXPLANATION.

COMMISSIONER LIST OF PROJECTS, WHAT IS THAT DATE? MARCH 7TH, CORRECT? YES, SIR.

LIST OF PROJECTS? YES, SIR.

UH, UH, WE NEED THEM AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.

FRANKLY, WE'RE DOUBLE CHECKING EVERYBODY'S APPLICATION BEFORE WE POST IT WITH TXDOT.

SO IF THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE WE NEED, WE CAN GET BACK WITH, BUT WE NEED THAT PROJECT LIST.

YOU'LL BE HEARING US, AND IF WE DON'T ALREADY HAVE IT, WE'LL BE WINDING ABOUT THAT WE RECEIVE IT.

IS THE PROJECT LIST LISTED IN PRIORITY IS OR IT, IT, IT IT IS.

UH, WE ASK YOU TO, TO KIND OF PUT 'EM IN AN ORDER IF YOU COULD THAT, THAT YOU WOULD START 'EM, BUT YOU'RE NOT BOUND TO IT.

UH, TDO HAS SAID THAT THEY RECOGNIZE THAT YOU MAY GET THIS GRANT AWARD IN, IN THE NEXT TWO OR THREE MONTHS.

AND DEPENDING ON WEATHER OR CONDITIONS, UH, YOU MAY WANNA START ON PROJECT FOUR INSTEAD OF PROJECT ONE.

UM, THERE'S NO PROBLEM WITH THAT.

YOU JUST TELL THEM WHEN YOU DO THAT, I'M STARTING ON PROJECT FOUR AND YOU WILL SUBMIT A MONTHLY INVOICE.

IT'S SOMETHING I GET FROM THE, THE, UH, FINANCIAL FOLKS A LOT TOO, IS OKAY, IT'S A NINE 10 GRANT.

THAT'S GOOD.

DO WE HAVE TO HAVE OUR WHOLE 10% UP FRONT OR DO WE HAVE TO BUILD THE PROJECT AND THEN ASK TO GET OUR 90% BACK? SO CALLED REIMBURSEMENT GRANTS WITH WHAT MOST GRANTS ARE? NO, THEY'RE GONNA LET YOU INVOICE THEM MONTHLY.

SO EACH MONTH AS YOU TAKE UP A PROJECT AND DO SOME WORK ON IT, IF YOU BUY MATERIALS TO GO ON THAT ROAD, UH, IF YOU USE COUNTY EQUIPMENT ON THAT ROAD, OR IF YOU LET A CONTRACTOR TO A CONTRACTOR TO GO IN AND WORK ON THAT ROAD AT THE END OF THE MONTH WHEN YOU PAID FOR THOSE MATERIALS OR YOU USED YOUR MACHINERY, YOU'LL TURN IN AN INVOICE AND THEY'LL, THEY PROMISED TO TURN THOSE AROUND IN 30 DAYS.

NOW I DIDN'T PROMISE THIS, THE STATE'S PROMISE.

SO YOU CAN SEE, YOU DON'T HAVE TO HAVE ALL YOUR MONEY UP AT ONE TIME.

YOU JUST GOTTA HAVE ENOUGH TO GET STARTED AND THEN YOU CAN GET YOUR REIMBURSEMENT AS YOU GO.

OTHER QUESTION? NO, WE WILL HAVE TO, WE'LL NEED TO GET THAT LIST TOGETHER PRETTY QUICK THROUGH A WORKSHOP OR SOMETHING.

POSSIBLY.

DOES THE LIST NEED TO BE APPROVED BY THE COMMISSIONER COURT? YEAH, I LIKE FOR IT TO BE OKAY.

UH, IT, YOU KNOW, THE STATUTE JUST SAYS YOU'LL SUBMIT A LIST.

UM, BUT SINCE IT'S COMING TO THE COUNTY, I ALWAYS LIKE FOR IT TO BE APPROVED BY COMMISSIONER'S COURT.

UM, IT, I EXPECT EACH IN THE PRECINCT SYSTEM, EACH COMMISSIONER'S GONNA PREPARE THEIR OWN LIST, BUT I'D LIKE FOR IT TO BE RUN THROUGH AND IT'S PROBABLY BETTER TO HAVE AS MANY PROJECTS ON THERE THAN IT'S FEASIBLE, UH, BECAUSE IN CASE THE ADDITIONAL MONEY DOES COME FORWARD.

IS THAT RIGHT? AND, AND WE'VE SENT YOU A FORM FOR THE PROJECT LIST.

THAT TEXT SIDE HAS GIVEN US, UH, BROUGHT ONE WITH YOU OR NOT.

IT IS THAT ONE PAGE LISTING.

YOU JUST NAME THE ROAD AND WHAT PART OF THE ROAD AND WHAT YOU'RE GONNA DO TO IT AND WHAT YOU THINK IT'LL COST.

IT'S ONE OF THE SIMPLEST, UH, I'VE EVER SEEN FOR A GRANT APPLICATION.

SO, UM, BUT YES, IT, IT'S, UM, UH, IT AND AMOUNT FOR THE PROJECTS AS TO GO IN WITH IT.

OKAY.

WE WILL NEED TO PROBABLY COME BACK AND HAVE A MEETING IF WE NEED THAT TWO BY MARCH THE SEVENTH, WE'LL HAVE ANOTHER MEETING.

WILL YOU SEND THAT TO THE JUDGE SO WE CAN DUPLICATE THAT? YES, SIR.

WE PROBABLY HAVE.

YOU'VE GOT THE FORM.

YOU SURE HAVE.

I THINK I SENT IT TO ALL OF US.

YEAH, WE JUST HAVEN'T HAD VIA EMAIL.

ALRIGHT, COMMISSIONERS, OTHER OTHER QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU, JIM.

EXCELLENT.

THANK YOU, JUDGE.

PRESENTATION.

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WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER SHANE SECOND AND A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER, UH, MANNY TO, UH, GIVE FINAL APPROVAL.

THE CAMAN COUNTY ENERGY TRANSPORTATION, REINVESTMENTS ON NUMBER ONE.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

THOSE OPPOSED? ALRIGHT, I'VE GOT, UH, SEVERAL COPIES HERE THAT WE WILL NEED TO, UH, YOU'LL SIGN ONE AND LET ME TAKE WHAT WE, I WILL, AND WE'RE GOING, WE NEED TO GET OUR CLERK HERE TO SIGN IT AS WELL.

SO JUDGE, HAVE A THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT.

NOW LET'S GET INTO POPULAR SUBJECT, DISCUSS YOU'D LIKE, COME FORWARD.

OKAY.

WELL, IT'S, UH, EVERYBODY'S FAVORITE TOPIC RIGHT NOW.

UM, WE STARTED THE NEW ELECTRONIC SYSTEM LAST MONDAY, THE 10TH.

THERE ARE STILL SOME ISSUES THAT WE ARE WORKING OUT, UM, SOME DETAILS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GET, UM, EVERYBODY'S, UM, TIME RIGHT, EVERYBODY'S SCHEDULE RIGHT, AND ALL THAT FUN STUFF.

SO, UM, AND TODAY IS SUPPOSED TO BE THE FIRST SUBMITTING PROCESS, WHICH ARE ALREADY SOME ISSUES WITH THAT.

UH, THE TIMEKEEPING PEOPLE ARE HERE TODAY TO HELP US GET THROUGH THAT AND WALK US THROUGH ALL THAT PART.

UM, THE MAJOR ISSUE THAT WE HAVE IS WE NEED TO UPDATE OUR CURRENT POLICY, UM, THAT IS IN THE SYSTEM.

UM, I'VE GIVEN YOU A SAMPLE OF JUST SOME MINOR CHANGES THAT I MADE, UM, JUST TO CHANGE IT FROM ANY WORDING FROM PAPER TO ELECTRONICS.

UM, IT'S NOT A FINAL ONE.

WE, THERE'S STILL ISSUES THAT WE NEED TO ADDRESS AS FAR AS THE MAJOR THING BEING, UM, EXEMPT VERSUS NON-EXEMPT EMPLOYEES.

UM, CURRENTLY I'VE GIVEN YOU ALSO GIVEN YOU A COPY OF, UH, THE, UH, CODE OF FEDERAL REGULATIONS THAT, UM, TALKS ABOUT EXEMPT AND NON-EXEMPT EMPLOYEES.

UM, THERE'S AN OPINION LETTER IN THERE FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF LABOR.

I ALSO GAVE YOU, UM, A CASE THAT WAS TALKED ABOUT IN THE OPINION LETTER AND THEN SOME OTHER LETTERS AND STUFF FROM, UM, OTHER COUNTIES.

AND THEN SOME INFORMATION FROM A LAW FIRM THAT DISCUSSES THE FAIR LABOR STANDARDS ACT FAIRLY WELL.

THAT, UM, IS VERY INFORMATIVE.

CURRENTLY WE'VE GOT 44 EMPLOYEES THAT ARE CLASSIFIED AS EXEMPT.

UM, AND WHAT THE EXEMPT VERSUS NON-EXEMPT IS EXEMPT EMPLOYEES ARE EXEMPT FROM THE, UM, FAIR LABOR STANDARDS ACT OVERTIME RULES, MEANING THEY DON'T GET OVERTIME PAID, THEY DON'T GET COMP TIME, THEY GET PAID 80 HOURS REGARDLESS OF THE NUMBER OF HOURS THAT THEY WORK.

UM, THEY'RE NOT THERE ALL KINDS OF, UM, OTHER THINGS.

BUT THAT'S THE MAIN ONE THAT IS THAT QUESTION HERE.

SO NON EXEMPT MEANS, BUT THEY'RE NOT EXEMPT FROM THE FAIRLY STANDARD ACT.

AND WE HAVE TO ABIDE BY THEM AND, AND GIVE THEM TIME AND A HALF, UM, FOR HOURS THAT THEY WORK OVER 40 EACH WEEK.

WE HAVE, UM, IN OUR POLICY, IT STATES THAT WE DON'T PAY COMP, UH, EXCUSE ME, WE DON'T PAY OVERTIME THAT EMPLOYEES ACCRUE CONTACT.

SO THAT IS OKAY.

BUT THE WHOLE ISSUE IS WHO IS ACCRUING IT AND WHO'S NOT.

UM, RIGHT NOW, THE 44 EMPLOYEES THAT WE HAVE, UM, MOST OF 'EM, YOU KNOW, IT'S BEEN THAT WAY SINCE THE BEGINNING.

THE HUGE QUESTION THAT WE HAVE IS WHO IS AND WHY?

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AND THERE'S, THERE'S REQUIREMENTS IN THE CODE OF FEDERAL REGULATIONS AND THE FAIR LABOR STANDARDS ACT THAT SPECIFY WHAT THEIR SPECIFIC DUTIES THAT THEY HAVE TO HAVE.

THERE'S DIFFERENT EXEMPTIONS ON PROFESSIONAL EXEMPTIONS.

LIKE ALL OF OUR ATTORNEYS ARE PROFESSIONALLY EXEMPT.

SO THEY, REGARDLESS OF THE NUMBER OF HOURS THEY WORK, THEY GET, UM, THEY'RE NON-EXEMPT, EXCUSE ME, THEIR EXEMPT AND THEY GET PAID FOR THEIR 80 HOURS.

ALSO, THE DOCTOR OUT AT THE, UM, SHERIFF'S OFFICE IS UNDER THE PROFESSIONALS.

THEN WE HAVE THE MAIN ONE, WHICH IS VERY VAGUE, IS THE ADMINISTRATIVE EXEMPTION, WHICH A LOT OF THE EMPLOYEES FALL INTO THAT.

SO ALL OF OUR DEPARTMENT HEADS ARE CONSIDERED, UM, EXEMPT.

UM, THEY HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO RUN THEIR DEPARTMENT.

THEY OVERSEE AND SUPERVISE PEOPLE AND STUFF LIKE THAT.

THE MAJOR QUESTION THAT WE HAVE ARE COURT COORDINATORS.

AND COURT REPORT IS THE HUGE ISSUE.

UM, ACCORDING TO THE FAIR LABOR STANDARDS ACT AND THE DEPARTMENT OF LABOR, THE COURT COORDINATORS ARE CONSIDERED EXEMPTED VOICE.

THEY, UM, INTERACT WITH THEIR ELECTED OFFICIAL.

THEY REPORT TO THEIR JUDGE, UM, W LIST OF THINGS THAT THEY SUPPORT AND SAY THAT THAT'S WHY THEY'RE CONSIDERED EXEMPT.

UM, COURT REPORTERS, ACCORDING TO THE FAIR LABOR STANDARDS ACT, THEY ARE NON-EXEMPT, WHICH, UM, ALTHOUGH THEY REPORT TO THEIR JUDGE, TWO OF THEM TO A DISTRICT JUDGE, WHICH THERE'S ALSO AN AG OPINION ABOUT WHETHER, WHETHER THE, UM, THE COUNTY HAS ANY AUTHORITY OVER THE DISTRICT COURT REPORTER BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THEY, THEY REPORT TO A DISTRICT JUDGE.

AND ALTHOUGH THAT THEY DO REPORT TO A DISTRICT JUDGE, WE HAVE SAY OVER THEIR, YOU KNOW, THEIR SALARY AND STUFF LIKE THAT 'CAUSE THEY'RE A COUNTY EMPLOYEE, BUT THEY REPORT TO A DISTRICT JUDGE.

SO, UM, IT'S BEEN QUESTIONED.

UM, SPECIFICALLY THERE IS, UM, A LETTER IN THERE FROM BASTROP COUNTY WHO THEY, THEIR COUNTY COURT AT LAW JUDGE FELT THAT THEIR COURT REPORTER SHOULD BE EXEMPT AND HE WASN'T GONNA HAVE IT.

SO HE, UM, WROTE A LETTER AND SUBMITTED IT TO THEIR HR DIRECTOR.

AND THEN SHE PRETTY MUCH WAS COURT ORDERED TO, UM, CLASSIFY THEM AS AS EXEMPT.

UM, I HAD SPOKEN WITH THE HR DIRECTOR THERE AND THEY HAD RECEIVED AN OPINION FROM OR GUIDANCE FROM THEIR DEPARTMENT OF LABOR INVESTIGATOR AND THEY SAID THAT IT WOULD PASS.

I HAVE TALKED TO TAC AND OUR HR REPRESENTATIVE FROM TAC AND SHE SAID THAT ALL THAT DOES IS, UH, REMOVE THE PERSONAL LIABILITY FROM THE HR DIRECTOR MM-HMM .

THAT THAT JUDGE WOULD STILL HAVE TO DEFEND THAT IF IT DID BECOME AN ISSUE IN A SUIT WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF LABOR, WE CAN GET FINED AND PRETTY BADLY I CAN BE HELD SELF LIABLE IF I CLASSIFY SOMEONE AS, UM, EXEMPT THAT SHOULD NOT BE CLASSIFIED THAT WAY.

SO, UM, I HAVE SUGGESTED TO THE JUDGE CHITTY, WHO THIS ALL CAME UP ABOUT HIS COURT REPORTERS, THAT TO PROTECT MYSELF AND GIVE US SOME GUIDANCE, UM, ME SOME GUIDANCE AS TO WHAT TO DO THAT THEY ARE TO, HE'S TO SUBMIT A LETTER TO ME, YOU KNOW, TELLING ME THAT I HAVE TO DO IT.

UM, AND THEN JUSTIFY WHY HE FEELS THAT HIS COURT REPORTERS, UM, SHOULD BE EXEMPT.

SO IN SPEAKING WITH TAX, SHE SAID THAT THAT WOULDN'T, LIKE I SAID, THAT WOULD ONLY PROTECT MYSELF, IT WOULD NOT PROTECT THE COUNTY THAT THE JUDGE WOULD HAVE TO DEFEND THAT IN A LAWSUIT IF THAT HAPPENED.

UM, ALSO WE'RE GETTING JUST KIND OF EVERYBODY, UM, IS QUESTIONING THE EXEMPT VERSUS NON-EXEMPT AND WHY THIS AND WHY THAT.

AND THERE'S A TEST IN THERE.

I'VE GIVEN DOCUMENTATION, I'VE GIVEN, YOU KNOW, THE GUIDANCE THAT THEY CAN USE.

UM, SINCE WE ARE STILL TRYING TO CREATE JOB DESCRIPTIONS, I DON'T HAVE ONE CREATED FOR EVERY PERSON IN THE COUNTY AS OF THIS MOMENT.

UM, WE SHOULD I, WHICH I'M WORKING ON, BUT WE SHOULD USE THOSE JOB DESCRIPTIONS TO, UM, YOU KNOW, RUN THE TEST AND FIND OUT WHO SHOULD BE, WHO SHOULD NOT.

UM, WITH THE TIMEKEEPING SYSTEM, IT, UM, AT FIRST WHEN WE FIRST SET UP THE SYSTEM, THEY WERE SAYING THAT THE ONLY WAY FOR US TO GUARANTEE THAT THE EMPLOYEE ONLY AN EXEMPT EMPLOYEE ONLY RECEIVES PAID FOR THE 80 HOURS THAT THEY WORKED WAS TO HAVE THEM CLOCK IN ONCE A DAY AND THE SYSTEM WOULD AUTOMATICALLY CLOCK THEM OUT.

SINCE THAT WE, THEY HAVE FIXED IT TO WHERE, UM, EXEMPT EMPLOYEES CAN CLOCK IN AND OUT AND REGARDLESS OF THE NUMBER OF HOURS THEY WORK, THEY WOULD STILL ONLY GET PAID FOR THE 80.

SO, UM, IT'S JUST GONNA COME DOWN TO YOU GUYS AND THE POLICY AS TO IF YOU WANT TO MAKE THAT ACCOUNTABLE.

UM, ACCORDING TO TAC I HAVE TALKED TO THEM AND THEY SAID THAT WE CAN REQUIRE, UM, EXEMPT EMPLOYEES TO BE ACCOUNTED FOR THEIR HOURS SO THAT WE'RE STILL PAYING THEM, THEY'RE NOT LOSING ANYTHING, IT'S NOT HURTING THEM.

UM, WE'RE STILL PAYING THEM THEIR 80 HOURS, BUT REQUIRE THEM TO ACCOUNT FOR THE HOURS THAT THEY ACTUALLY WORK.

SO THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE TO IMPLEMENT IN A POLICY.

UM,

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THE NEXT THING THAT WE NEED TO IMPLEMENT IN THE POLICY IS WE HAVE A BIG ISSUE WITH OUR, UM, 28 DAY CYCLE, WHICH IS THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT.

THEY ARE EXEMPT, UM, EXEMPT UNDER A, UM, THE 2 0 7 K UNDER THE FAIR LABOR STANDARDS ACT, MEANING THEY WORK, UM, IN A 28 DAY PAY CYCLE.

SO EVERYBODY ELSE IS IN A TWO WEEK PAY CYCLE, 14 DAY, THE UM, SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT WORKS IN A 28 DAY CYCLE.

SO THEY WORK 160 HOURS, WHICH IS THE NUMBER THAT WE SET.

AND IN THE FAIR LABOR STANDARDS ACT, ONCE THEY EXCEED THE 107, ONCE THEY EXCEED 171 HOURS, WE PAY THEM THAT TIME AND A HALF.

SO WHAT'S THE KIND OF THE ARGUMENT RIGHT NOW AND WHAT'S BEEN HAPPENING, UM, IS ONCE AN EMPLOYEE REACHES THEIR 160 HOURS, WHETHER THEY USE LEAVE OR NOT, THEN IT STOPS AT 160 HOURS, WHICH IS FINE, WE JUST NEEDED THAT TO BE IN WRITING.

SO WHAT IS HAPPENING IS IF SAY THEY TAKE, YOU KNOW, 40 HOURS OF VACATION, BUT THEN THEY EXCEED, YOU KNOW, THEIR 160 HOURS WORTH, WE'RE JUST NOT LETTING THEM USE THEIR VACATION TIME TO MOVE OVER INTO THE COMP TIME.

SO THEY'RE JUST NOT MOVING TIME, WHICH IS, UM, FINE, WE CAN DO THAT.

WE JUST NEED IT IN WRITING TO HAVE A POLICY FOR IT.

THAT'S PRETTY MUCH MY SPILL, .

OKAY.

CAN YOU PUT OUR PO CAN YOU PUT YOUR RECOMMENDED POLICY CHANGES IN WRITING FOR US INSTEAD OF THIS? YEAH.

AND ADD THOSE TO IT? WELL, AND I, I MEAN, I GUESS IT'S, UM, MY RECOMMENDATION AND YOU'RE, IT'S JUST WE'RE STILL TRYING TO ACCOMMODATE EVERYBODY AND YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY'S STILL UNHAPPY ABOUT IT AND IT'S CHANGED IT SOMETHING, UM, I MEAN THAT'S UP TO Y'ALL WITH WHAT Y'ALL WANT TO DO AS FAR AS IN THE POLICY.

IF Y'ALL WANT TO ACCOUNT, MAKE THE EXEMPT VOICE ACCOUNT FOR THEIR TIME INS AND TIMEOUTS AND THAT KIND OF THING.

SO I'LL BE HAPPY TO WRITE IT HOW, SINCE WE CAN'T VOTE ON ANYTHING HERE, IF YOU BRING THAT BACK TO US THAT WE CAN VOTE ON, THAT WOULD BE .

YEAH, I THINK SO.

AND, UH, HAVE, DOES TAG HAVE ANY KIND OF A SAMPLE POLICY? NOT ON A, UM, AN ELECTRONICS.

UH, MAYBE ANOTHER COUNTY THAT I REQUESTED.

I GOT, UM, ONE COUNTY BACK THAT SAID THEY ACTUALLY USE AN ELECTRONIC TIME TV SYSTEM, BUT I NEVER GOT ANY POLICY OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

OKAY.

AND, UH, SERGEANT, NEED TO INVOLVE JOHN ANY, WHENEVER YOU GET IT BACK, UH, TO REVIEW.

UH, I KNOW THIS, I'VE HAD A FEW QUESTIONS.

I DON'T WHETHER ANY OF YOU GUYS HAVE OR NOT, BUT IT IS A, IT IS A NEW SYSTEM AND WE KNEW THAT THERE WOULD BE SOME, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF QUESTIONS THERE WE WERE TRYING TO IMPLEMENT.

BUT, UH, THESE SEEM TO BE THE MAJOR, MAJOR POINTS.

I THINK WE'VE SOME THINGS GOING THROUGH THIS THAT WE HAD NOT, UH, HAD HEARD BEFORE.

SO, BUT I'M JUST TO SEE US GETTING MS. I THIS HAS BEEN A LONG TIME.

TELL ME MS. TRIP.

UH, JUDGE, I'D LIKE TO ASK WHEN SHE WAS TALKING ABOUT, UM, THE EXEMPT EMPLOYEES ELECTED ELECTED OFFICIALS AND DEPARTMENT HEADS BEING ACCOUNTABLE FOR THEIR TIME, ELECTED OFFICIALS DON'T USE THE SYSTEM.

PARDON ME? ELECTED OFFICIALS ARE NOT USING THE SYSTEM.

THEY'RE NOT EVEN IN THE SYSTEM AT ALL.

OKAY.

BUT DEPARTMENT HEADS, DEPARTMENT HEADS ARE, BECAUSE THE REASON THAT IS, IS ELECTED OFFICIALS DON'T ACCRUE, UM, VACATION TIME, SICK TIME, ANYTHING.

SO THEY DON'T TURN IN A TIME SHEET NOW REGARDLESS.

SO WHAT WAS YOUR THAT WAS THE, THAT WAS THE QUESTION THAT WAS GOING TO BE EFFECTIVE.

'CAUSE I WANTED ADMINISTRATIVE RIGHTS SET UP FOR ME, FOR BYRON, SO I CAN RUN AUDIT REPORTS SO I CAN START DOING PAYROLL AUDIT.

OKAY.

THAT HELPED.

OKAY.

AND AS FAR AS ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANCE OF THE ELECTED OFFICIALS, ARE THEY, THEY'RE EXEMPT NOW? LORD, ELECTED OFFICIALS DON'T COUNT FOR NO ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANCE OF THE ELECTED OFFICIALS.

THEY ARE, UM, NOT, THEY'RE NOT EXEMPT.

OKAY.

THE ONLY PEOPLE THAT WE HAVE ARE THE COURT, UM, COORDINATORS AND THE COURT REPORTERS.

REPORTERS.

I HAVE NOT, THAT'S STILL GRAY AREA UNTIL I SEE RECEIVED DOCUMENTATION FROM THE JUDGE.

THERE IS A STATE STATUTE THAT SAYS THAT COURT REPORTERS, UH, THAT THEIR HOURS WERE SET BY THEIR JUDGE.

YES, THERE'S AN ATTORNEY GENERAL'S OPINION.

I THINK I SO, BUT THAT'S STILL A LITTLE BIT OF, WELL, IT DOESN'T MATTER THEIR HOURS, BUT WE STILL, UM, HANDLE THEM ACCOUNTABLE BECAUSE THEY'RE PAID BY THE COUNTY.

RIGHT.

SO WE DON'T SET THEIR HOURS, BUT WE SET THEIR PAY, WELL, THEY SET THEIR PAY, BUT WE PAY THEM.

DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? THE DISTRICT JUDGE STILL SETS THEIR PAY, BUT WE PAY THEM.

RIGHT.

BUT THIS IS ALL ABOUT TIMEKEEPING.

NOT REALLY THE PAY, BUT THE HOURS CLOCKED IN OR ON DUTY.

SO THE JUDGES ARE RESPONSIBLE NOW FOR THEIR TIMEKEEPING? THEY WILL BE IF THEY'RE CONSIDERED EXEMPT.

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YES.

OKAY.

THEY, THEY WON'T CLOCK IN.

THEY WOULD JUST BE UP TO THE JUDGES TO, WELL, NO, WE WE'RE STILL HAVING THEM CLOCK IN BECAUSE WE HAVE TO HAVE SOME WAY TO TRACK THEIR ACCRUALS COMMUNICATION, THEIR, SO, AND THAT WAS THE WHOLE THING WITH THE SYSTEM WITH THEM IS, OKAY, SO IF WE DON'T REQUIRE THEM RETURNING A TIME SHEET, HOW ARE WE GONNA KEEP OVER THEIR ACCRUAL? SO THAT WAS THE WHOLE JUST HAVING CLOCK IN ONCE A DAY TO GET PAID FOR THAT DAY.

AND THAT'S THE POLICY NOW? WELL, THERE IS NO POLICY RIGHT NOW, BUT THAT'S HOW WE'RE HAVING IT NOW.

OKAY, GOTCHA.

RIGHT.

TO GET US, YEAH.

TO GET IT STARTED AND RUNNING.

YEAH.

OKAY.

SO WHAT IS THE, IS THERE ANYTHING THAT, THAT WE CAN DO TO HELP GET THIS JOB DESCRIPTION DEAL MOVING ALONG? THIS HAS BEEN TALKED ABOUT, TALKED ABOUT, DRAGGED ALONG.

WE'RE NOT GETTING ANYTHING DONE.

YEAH.

UM, HOW ARE WE GONNA GET THAT? WELL, I, I MEAN I'M WORKING ON 'EM.

I'VE STARTED THEM.

I DON'T, I HAVE SOME, I DON'T HAVE ALL, UM, BUT I, I'M HOPING TO GET 'EM DONE IN THE NEXT MONTH OR SO.

BUT THERE ARE SOME THAT WE SENT OUT A QUESTIONNAIRE SO THAT I COULD HAVE A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT, YOU KNOW, PHYSICIANS DO AND STUFF.

AND I DIDN'T RECEIVE ALL THOSE BACK.

SO WHEN I GET TO THOSE PEOPLE THAT DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ON, THEN THAT'S GONNA TAKE A LITTLE MORE TIME.

WOULD IT BE HELPFUL TO SEND THAT EMAIL OUT AGAIN? SAY IT SO, YOU KNOW, USE A LITTLE BIT OF STRONGER LANGUAGE, SAY I NEED THIS STUFF BACK.

I CAN CERTAINLY TRY, YOU KNOW, IT MIGHT NOT HURT AND THEN PROBABLY ALL OF US.

YEAH.

AND IF THEY DON'T RESPOND WE'LL, WE'LL ADDRESS IT AND SEE IF THE, POSSIBLY SEE IF THE COMMISSIONER COURT COULDN'T URGE THEM TO RESPOND TO REQUEST THIS BEEN DRAGGING.

YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST DRAGGING.

SO.

OKAY.

OTHER QUESTIONS FOR LAUREN? NO, I JUST FEEL LIKE IF PEOPLE HAVE TO CLOCK IN, THEY HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE VESTED INTEREST IN WHAT OUR COUNTY IS ABOUT, ABOUT BEING AT THE JOB AND WORKING.

I THINK THEY HAVE A BETTER INTEREST.

ALRIGHT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU.

APPRECIATE, APPRECIATE THE UPDATE.

APPRECIATE YOUR WORK GETTING US TO THIS POINT.

THANK YOU.

ALRIGHT, ITEM NUMBER SIX IS, UH, SHERIFF BURNS TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACCEPTING THE SHERIFF'S 2013 RACIAL PROFILING REPORT.

THERE.

IT'S, AND THERE WERE NO, I'M SORRY.

WE NEED TO, UH, I ACCEPT WANT GO THROUGH EACH PAGE OF THIS? NO, WE'RE GOOD.

RACIAL PROFILING REPORT.

I CAN DO IT.

I NEED ANOTHER TALK DROP OFF.

ALRIGHT, WELL THANK YOU SHERIFF.

I KNOW I SAY THAT JOKINGLY, BUT I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF, A LOT OF WORK GOES INTO THIS TOO.

SO WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER CLARK, I BELIEVE.

YES SIR.

AND A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER MANNING TO APPROVE THE, UH, SHERIFF'S UH, 2013 RACIAL PROFILING REPORT.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

SO OPPOSED.

ITEM NUMBER SEVEN, PAM CARTER TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER APPLYING FOR FREE GRANTS MENTAL HEALTH TRAINING, LIVE SKIN FINGER PRINT SYSTEM AND CANINE DRUGS, TRAFFIC AND PROJECT DASH ONE UNIT AND KINE GRANTS THROUGH THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE DIVISION.

AND UH, I KNOW PAM HAS BEEN WORKING DILIGENTLY ON THIS GRANTS.

I BELIEVE THEY'RE ALL THROUGH THE COUNCIL'S GOVERNMENT.

THEY ARE, YES.

THROUGH CRIMINAL JUSTICE DIVISION.

AND THE FIRST ONE IS MENTAL HEALTH TRAINING.

THIS TRAINING WILL HELP, UM, ALL OF THE KAUFMAN COUNTY LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES, ACTUALLY MUNICIPALITIES.

WE ALSO WILL BE INVOLVING OUR COMMUNITY SERVICES AND CORRECTIONS LARGE, OUR ADULT AND JUVENILE DEPARTMENTS.

THIS TRAINING WILL, UM, HELP INDIVIDUALS WHO MAY BE IN A POTENTIAL TO BE ABLE TO IDENTIFY INDIVIDUALS WHO MAY BE POTENTIALLY IN A CRISIS SITUATION OR, UM, DIAGNOSED WITH A SERIOUS, UM, MENTAL ILLNESS.

THE PLAN IS TO IMPLEMENT AND ENFORCE THE MEASURES TO PROTECT NOT ONLY THE INDIVIDUAL BUT AS WELL THE PUBLIC AND OUR OFFICER.

SO IT'S A 40 HOUR CERTIFICATE CLASS.

WE WILL RUN IT.

UM, IF WE GET THE FUNDING, WE WOULD DO IT IN A TWO WEEK PERIOD SO THAT WE CAN ROTATE ALL THE DIFFERENT OFFICERS IN AND GET AS MANY IN AS WE CAN BECAUSE OF THE WAY THE SCHEDULE WORKS.

SO WE HAVE AN AMOUNT OF THE GRANT, UM, WE ARE STILL WORKING ON IT, BUT I'M THINKING IT WON'T REACH OVER 15,000.

SO, BUT TO GET EVERYONE CERTIFIED, WE WOULD HAVE TO DO IT AND, AND HAVE THE UM, SPEAKERS COME AND STAY HERE.

WE WILL HAVE TO PAY FOR THEIR, OF COURSE, PAY THEM TO DO THE PROGRAM FOR US.

WE WOULD PAY FOR THEIR MILEAGE AND THEIR LOING.

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SO IT INVOLVE ALL THE LAW ENFORCEMENT, FREEWAY, COUNTY, EVERY, ALL IN COUNTY.

WHY CONSTABLE? IT'S POINTING NOT LISTED ON HERE.

I'M SORRY.

I JUST TYPO.

IT IS NO PROBLEM.

IT'S EVERYBODY AND THE CONSTABLES, THEY THE CONSTABLES TOO.

THIS WAS JUST A ROUGH DRAFT.

OKAY.

YES.

ALRIGHT.

AND THEN THE, THE LIVE SCAN FINGERPRINT MACHINE.

UM, THIS IS A MACHINE THAT AS THE INMATES ARE BROUGHT INTO THE JAIL, THEY ARE, A CRIMINAL BACKGROUND IS DONE.

THIS MACHINE THAT WE HAVE NOW IS ON ITS LAST LEG AND AT ANY TIME IT COULD JUST, YOU KNOW, BREAK DOWN.

SO, UM, SO THIS MACHINE WOULD HELP WITH THE EFFICIENCY.

THEY COULD FIND OUT IF THAT INMATE IS TELLING THE TRUTH, WHO THEY ARE AND UM, IF HE HAS ANY, ANYTHING AGAINST HIM.

ANY IF HE'S, YOU KNOW, WANTED ANY OTHER COUNTY OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

SO IT CHECKS HIS FINGERPRINTS.

IF THEY HAD TO DO IT THE OLD WAY, I THINK IT TAKES HOW MANY DAYS TO GET THAT BACK.

WE, WE CAN'T DO IT THE OLD WAY.

AND WE'RE DPS REQUIRES US TO ELECTRONICALLY TRANSMIT FINGERPRINTS NOW.

SO THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT.

IT'S A $40,000 MACHINE.

IS THAT THE AMOUNT OF THE GRAND IT WILL BE? YES.

THIS MACHINE WE'VE GOT WILL BE OBSOLETE AND FILL THEY WON ONLY SUPPORT IT THROUGH 15 OR TWO 15 AS FAR AS SUPPORTING, WE'LL HAVE TO HAVE ONE REGARD BEFORE WE GET GRANT OR NOT.

YES.

PARDON? WE'LL HAVE TO HAVE ONE WHETHER WE GET GRANT OR NOT.

IS THAT CORRECT? MM-HMM .

WELL WHEN THAT ONE GOES DOWN WE'LL HAVE TO HAVE ONE.

YEAH, THEY ARE HAVING HARD TIME FINDING ANY PARTS FOR IT AND ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

SO VERY, VERY MUCH.

WHAT'S THAT CALLED? TYLER? END OF LIFE.

.

.

AND THE NEXT ONE, UM, THAT I HAVE TO TALK ABOUT IS THE KAUFFMAN COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE.

CANINE DRUG INTERDICTION UNIT.

WE ARE NEEDING, UM, THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT IS IN NEED OF A CANINE UNIT.

THE ONE THAT THEY ARE USING IS, UM, HAS OVER 20, I THINK 200,000 MILES ON IT.

IT'S NOT RATED FOR EMERGENCY OPERATIONS, IT'S MORE OF A CIVILIAN TYPE MODEL AND THEY'RE A NEED TO HAVE A NEW VEHICLE.

IT'S A 2007 YEAR MODEL I BELIEVE.

UM, WE WOULD BE APPLYING FOR THE UNIT ITSELF AND EVERYTHING THAT THE UNIT NEEDS WITH IT.

SO, UM, IF A CANINES GONNA BE IN THE BACK OF THAT UNIT, THERE'S A HEATING SYSTEM AND A COOLING SYSTEM THAT IF THE CAR GETS TOO HOT, THE WINDOWS GO DOWN.

THERE'S ALL DIFFERENT TYPES OF THINGS THAT, UM, SAFETY ISSUES THAT WE WILL NEED TO MAKE THAT A FULLY EQUIPPED UNIT.

OKAY.

DO YOU HAVE AN IDEA? WE, WE ARE STILL WORKING ON APPROXIMATE COST.

YES.

THESE WERE JUST SOME OF THE GRANTS THAT BECAME AVAILABLE IN THE LAST FEW AND WE WANTED, I WANTED TO BRING THEM IN IN FRONT OF YOU AND LET YOU KNOW WHAT WE WOULD BE APPLYING FOR.

WELL HOPEFULLY WE'LL BE SUCCESSFUL ON, I HOPE SO.

THIS RIGHT HERE, UH, SAYS K NINE DRUG PROJECT ONE UNIT AND K NINE.

SHOULD THAT BE K NINE UNIT? WE ARE, WE ACTUALLY ARE LOOKING AT GETTING ONE UNIT.

WE DON'T KNOW THAT WE NEED THE K NINE SO THAT MAY BE BUT IT'S JUST THE UNIT.

YES.

NOT ANOTHER K NINE.

OKAY.

VERY GOOD.

ALRIGHT.

UH, YOUR PLEASURE ON THAT.

I, WE UH, APPLIED FOR ALL THREE GRANTS.

ALRIGHT.

SECOND.

HAVE A MOTION FROM UH, MR. CLARK.

SECOND TO APPROVE GRANT.

OTHER DISCUSSIONS? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

THOSE OPPOSED? THANK YOU.

YOUR ALRIGHT.

THANK YOU PAM.

UH, ITEM NUMBER EIGHT IS TO HEAR FROM CONSTABLE MORRIS.

UH, TO DISCUSS, CONSIDER THE RELAT COURT AND ASSET OFFICE PRECINCT NUMBER FOUR.

BRIAN MAKING ME FEEL BAD, BAD, BAD.

IT, I WOULD RECOMMEND GOING ABOUT THE WAY I DID.

YOU GOT LITTLE, LITTLE ISSUES WITH YOU.

WE HAD NO COMPLAINTS FOR 2013.

SO GOOD JOB.

I MOVE WITH CONSTABLE MORRIS.

YOU ALSO GOT THE ASSET TURE? I DO.

OKAY.

SO THIS, IT'S PART OF THE SAME, IT'S THIS FOLLOWING YEAR.

OKAY.

UM, MS. COOPER'S LOOKED OVER BOTH OF THEM GIVE HER SIGNATURE, HER STAMP ON THE BACK.

UH, ONE IS FOR LAST YEAR THE OTHER'S 2010 HAD TO BE REDONE FOR SOME REASON.

UH, COMPTROLLER'S OFFICE LETTERS

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AND AGS OFFICE IS THE ONE THAT LOOKS AT 'EM.

I CALLED DOWN AND THEY SAID, WELL WE'RE TWO YEARS BEHIND, WE'LL GETTING THEM DONE.

SO WE REDID IT AND SENT IT BACK.

OKAY.

WHAT YOU MIGHT EXPLAIN KIND OF WHAT THIS IS, JUST SO EVERYBODY RE REPORT, UH, ANYTIME MONEY IS GAINED FROM, UM, THE LEGAL PROCEEDS, WHETHER IT BE WE MAKE A TRAFFIC STOP AND UH, THEY HAVE UH, ANY TYPE OF NARCOTICS IN THE VEHICLE, UH, WE CAN FILE IF THEY HAVE MONEY, UH, WE CAN FILE AGAINST THE VEHICLE.

UH, WE SET UP A, WE FILE THROUGH THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.

THEY SET A HEARING ON IT, THEY'LL FORFEIT THE PROPERTY OR, AND WE'LL GO ABOUT THAT AWAY.

THE DA'S OFFICE GETS A PORTION OF THE MONEY.

THEN WHAT WE DO WITH THE VEHICLES, YOU KNOW, IF WE CAN USE IT LIKE SUBURBAN THAT WE HAD IT, UH, WE STARTED THE COMMERCIAL VEHICLE ENFORCEMENT UH, DIVISION.

WE USE THAT SUBURBAN FOR UP UNTIL THEY HAD WELL OVER 200,000 MILES ON IT.

UM, A LOT OF TIMES IT'S SOMETHING WE CAN'T USE.

WE'LL SEND IT TO THE AUCTION AND YOU KNOW, SAVE THAT MONEY.

IF WE RUN SHORT ON TRAINING, WE'LL USE IT FOR IT OR SOMETHING WE MIGHT NEED FOR THE OFFICE.

AND THAT MONEY FROM THE SALE, THAT VEHICLE GOES INTO THIS PORTION? YES.

I GET A PORTION OF IT IN THE DA'S OFFICE GETS A PORTION OF IT.

AND I PAY FOR AFTER I ADD IN THE PAPER WHERE THE OXYGEN, OUR LOCAL PAPER AND WHERE THE AUCTION'S GONNA BE HELD AT.

AND THEN IF THERE'S AN AUCTION FEE OUT OF IT AND I PAY MY RECORD FEES THAT ALRIGHT.

WE'VE SEEN THESE ASSET TURE THINGS THROUGH THE DA AND THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE BEFORE.

THIS IS THE FIRST I'VE SEEN ON THE CONSTABLE.

I'VE HAD ONE SINCE I STARTED OFFICE.

ARE ARE THERE OTHER CONSTABLES SUPPOSED TO BE DOING THE SAME THING OR ANSWER FOR THAT? I MEAN IT'S A CONSTABLE RESPONSIBILITY.

ANY LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCY.

IF, IF YOU WANT TO TAKE THE TIME TO FILE THE, YOU KNOW, THROUGH THE DA'S OFFICE TO HAVE IT, UH, UM, YOU KNOW, TRY AND GET THAT PROPERTY OR MONEY OR WHATEVER IT MIGHT BE.

UM, JUST TAKING ANY TIME TO DO IT.

BUT IF THEY DON'T HAVE ANY, IF THEY DON'T HAVE ANY PROPERTY THEN THEY PROBABLY DON'T HAVE TO FILL THIS FARM OUT.

MAYBE THAT'S THE REASON WHY WE'RE NOT SEEING THEM.

RIGHT.

EXACTLY.

THEY, THEY GET A FORM EVERY YEAR AND IF THEY HAVEN'T, IF THEY HAVEN'T SEIZED ANY MONEY OR PROPERTY THEN YOU KNOW, IT'S PRETTY SIMPLE WHEN YOU FILL IT OUT AND SEND IT BACK.

I DON'T EVEN KNOW SHERIFF, IF THEY'RE NOT SEIZED ANYTHING.

IT DOESN'T HAVE TO COME BEFORE THE COURT.

NO, I DON'T THINK SO.

WE JUST HAVE REPORT.

RIGHT.

THERE'S NOTHING TO REPORT.

AARON, YOU'VE NOT SEEN ANY AT ALL? NO SIR.

OKAY.

THIS IS THE FIRST YEAR I'VE HAD TO HAVE THE AUDITOR ACTUALLY SIGN OFF ON IT.

UM, ON, I USUALLY WILL HAVE THEM STAMPED 'CAUSE I, ANY THE CHECKS THAT ARE CUT TO THE DA'S OFFICE, UH, ANY MONEY THAT'S CUT, I ALWAYS PUT THAT COPIES WITH IT IN CASE MY MATH IS OFF OR, OR SOMETHING.

IT SHOWS THE REPORT FROM START TO FINISH AND ANY MONEY THAT WAS SPENT OUTTA IT, I PUT COPIES OF EVERYTHING WITH IT.

OKAY, SO IT'S NOT JUST A CONSTABLE'S FUND FUND? NO, WE'VE ACTUALLY NOT SPENT ANY OF THE MONEY EXCEPT FOR WHAT WE'VE HAD TO OUT.

UM, I THINK IN 2010 WE ACTUALLY RECEIVED IT SHOWS THE MONEY THAT WE RECEIVED IN THERE.

THAT WAS MONEY FROM THE DA'S OFFICE WHERE RICK HAD PURCHASED US, UH, THREE VEST AND A SHOTGUN.

I BELIEVE IT WAS AMOUNT OF LIKE 2100.

YEAH.

SO IT'S, IT'S USED FOR GOOD PURPOSES.

YES SIR.

SO I'M JUST TRYING TO BE A LITTLE LIGHTHEARTED ABOUT THE FUND.

FIVE.

ALRIGHT.

WHAT'S YOUR PLEASURE GENTLEMEN? I'M GOING ACCEPT UH, BOTH REPORTS, THE REGULAR PROFILE AND REPORT AND THE ASSET FOR YOUR REPORT FOR CONSTABLE PRINCE FOR.

ALRIGHT, WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER MANNING.

SECOND.

SECOND.

COMMISSIONER .

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

THOSE PROPOSALS.

ITEM NUMBER NINE IS TO ANOTHER REPORT FROM CONSTABLE MORRIS TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER THE DEPARTMENT OF DEPUTY CONSTABLE BROOKS AS HEALTH AND SAFETY ENVIRONMENTAL INVESTIGATOR FOR COLTON COUNTY.

JUST TO KIND OF SPEED THIS UP.

SO Y'ALL WITH THE QUESTIONS THAT WILL KIND OF ANSWER THE QUESTION OF WHY I'M DOING IT RIGHT THERE ON THE, ON THE TOP THAT I'VE HIGHLIGHTED FOR YOU, THAT'S, THIS IS A COPY OF, UH, DEPUTY WALTER D'S UH, NOTICE TO ABATE NUISANCE WHEN HE POSTED OUT THERE.

IN ORDER FOR US TO FOLLOW THROUGH THIS, WE'RE GOING TO ASSIST THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT.

I KNOW THEY COULD BEEN TIED UP HAVING TO COVER COURTS AND UH, AND DO SOME BAILING AND WE GENERALLY PICK UP, YOU KNOW, IF THERE'S TRASH ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD AND TRY AND TRACK 'EM DOWN AND FIGURE OUT WHO DID IT AND RIDE ON A TICKET.

WE'RE JUST GONNA GO A STEP FURTHER.

WE'RE WORKING ON GETTING, UH, UH, DOING AN INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT WITH ROSTER AND GETTING ADDED ONTO THE ONE IN SCURRY SO WE CAN ASSIST THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT ON OUR SOUTH END AND THIS AS WELL AS THE CITIZENS.

AND, AND WHAT IT ASK ON HERE, IT SAYS THAT AN INVESTIGATION BY ADU AUTHORIZED OFFICER OF THE KAMAN COUNTY ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH DEPARTMENT.

IT

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JUST, IT'S NO MORE THAN A PROCESS OF Y'ALL AGREEING THAT DEPUTY BROOKS IS A ENVIRONMENTAL OFFICER.

SO WHEN WE POST THIS, WE'RE POSTING IT'S TRUE AND CORRECT WHEN WE POST IT THAT SHE IS AN ENVIRONMENTAL OFFICER JUST SET UP HANDS.

THAT'S CORRECT.

HAVE THE SAME DUTIES THAT WALTER AND JOHNNY GOT.

WE WE'RE, WE'RE, I MEAN WE'RE GOING TO HELP THEM AS MUCH AS WE DO PART-TIME DUTIES.

YEAH.

.

BUT, UH, YOU KNOW, THEY, THEY KNOW MUCH MORE THAN THAN WHAT WE DO, BUT YOU KNOW, WE CAN PICK UP THE PHONE AND ASK THEM ANY QUESTIONS.

RIGHT.

IS THIS SOMETHING WE SHOULD ASK ALL OF OUR CONSTABLES TO DO? I DUNNO WHY IT WOULD HURT TO DO SO.

WE WOULD'VE TO AUTHORIZE YEAH, WE'VE TO DO SAME THING.

SO IF YOU HAVE A CHANCE, YOU WOULD THAT ON EVERYTHING.

I'M SURE IT, BECAUSE WE'VE GOT A LOT OF THAT, ESPECIALLY, YOU KNOW, SCURRY AND ROSS, THEY DON'T HAVE ANY ENFORCEMENT AT ALL.

THEY'RE INCORPORATED BUT THEY HAVE NO ENFORCEMENT.

AND UH, SO THAT'S REALLY THE REASON WE DID THAT IN LOCAL AGREEMENT TO, UH, OF COURSE BEFORE WE COULD ENFORCE THOSE ENVIRONMENTAL LAWS AND ANIMAL CONTROL ALSO AND THOSE CITIES BECAUSE WE HAVE A LOT OF PROBLEMS, UH, ESPECIALLY SMALL LABOR BUSINESS DOGS, WHICH WE CAN DO UNDER STATE LAW, BUT IT'S MUCH EASIER BEFORE SOMEBODY GETS BID OR SOMETHING TO BE ABLE TO LIKE PICK THOSE UP.

SO IT, IT WOULD BE, UH, I WOULD ASK EACH OF THE COMMISSIONERS IF WE APPROVE THIS TO MAYBE TAKE THIS BACK AS AN EXAMPLE TO YOUR, UH, CONSTABLE AND SEE IF THEY'RE INTERESTED IN DOING THE BE LEFT UP TO THE CONSTABLE TO REQUEST IT.

SO IS THERE ANY SPECIAL TRAINING THAT THEY NEED TO, UH, THERE'S ALWAYS TRAINING THAT YOU CAN TAKE, BUT THERE'S NO SPECIALIZED TRAINING.

IT'S ALL THROUGH THE HEALTH AND SAFETY BUILDING.

ALL THIS DOES IS JUST GIVE THE AUTHORIZATION EXACTLY.

JUST HOW READ IT THERE AT THE TOP.

OKAY.

THAT'S GOOD INFORMATION.

I HAVE OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE CONSTABLE.

WELL, I THINK IT'S A GREAT IDEA, BUT I'D LIKE TO, I KNOW THAT, UH, THEY'VE BEEN WORKING ON ALL THE LEGAL CAPACITY TO FILE LIENS TO CLEAN SOME OF THIS PROPERTY UP AND LIKE I SAY, YOU PURSUE THAT WITH THE STILL HERE.

OKAY.

WELL JOHN, I KNOW THAT, UH, WALTER HAD BEEN TRYING TO GET SOME TEETH PUT IN INTO WHERE THEY CAN DO SOMETHING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, GET SOME OF THIS STUFF CLEANED UP.

YEAH, THERE'S LIKE ABANDONED MOBILE HOMES THAT HAVE FOUR OR FIVE CARS PARKED AROUND THERE THAT BEEN THERE.

SALON THAT TREES HAVE GROWN UP COUNTY ROAD THROUGH THE CARS, BUT THERE'S SOME LEGAL ISSUES LIKE THERE'S ON EVERYTHING.

ONE OF THE BIG PROBLEMS TOO IS THESE, UH, MORTGAGE COMPANIES TAKE THESE, THEY MAY BE IN NEW YORK, THEY DON'T CARE WHAT LOOKS LIKE, BUT THIS IS ONE WAY WE CAN LEAN THAT TITLE.

OBVIOUSLY, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE, THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO EITHER CLEAN IT UP OR PAY US TO CLEAN IT UP BEFORE THEY CAN FILL THAT PROPERTY.

THEY'D BE FORCED TO RESPOND.

YES.

YEAH.

WELL IT'S GONNA COST THEM MONEY, SO THEY'LL DO SOMETHING THEN.

BUT, UH, WE HAVE A LOT OF THAT AND, AND IT'S JUST, THERE'S NO WAY TO, WE GET, WE HIT A BLANK WALL.

NOBODY TO FILE ON.

THERE'S NOBODY, SO THEY WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE IT OR ANYTHING.

IT REALLY HURTS THE SURROUNDING PROPERTY VALUES.

OH, YEAH, I KNOW.

I'VE SEEN THE CITY MAYBANK ONCE THEY, YOU KNOW, POST ON THERE THAT THEY'RE TAKING POSSESSION OF THE PROPERTY, THE CITY COMES IN AND THAT THEY'VE GOT TRUCKS THERE AND EQUIPMENT.

THEY BLOW THOSE FLAT AND CLEAN IT UP AND IT'S GONE.

YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.

THE ENTIRE, I'M NOT SAYING THAT WE'D WANT TO EVERYBODY, THE COMMISSIONER TO DO THAT KIND OF STUFF, BUT IT'D BE A GOOD TOOL TO HAVE IN PLACES WHERE WE COULD DO IT.

SO KIND OF IF YOU CHECK IN THAT FIND A, GET JOHN TO GET SOMETHING WE SIGNED OFF FROM THE LEGAL PART OF IT.

WELL, I KNOW THEY'RE WORKING ON THAT.

WE'VE TALKED TO 'EM AND THEY'RE WORKING ON THE LEGAL PROCESS TO DO THAT.

ALRIGHT, WHAT'S YOUR PLEASURE ON ITEM NUMBER NINE? I MOVE, WE ACCEPT THE APPOINTMENT OF DEPUTY CONSTABLE VANESSA TON, SAFETY ENVIRON MAN INVESTIGATOR FOR KAMAN COUNTY AND DO AUTHORIZE HER TO DO SO.

ALRIGHT, WE HAVE A MOTION MR. MR. MANNING? DO WE HAVE A SECOND? MR. JAMES SECONDS? ANY OTHER DISCUSSIONS? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

THOSE PARTIES.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK, APPRECIATE.

ALRIGHTY.

UH, ITEM NUMBER 10 IS FROM OUR TAX SESSION COLLECTOR TO PRESENT THE MONTHLY REPORT FOR JANUARY, 2014.

YES SIR.

UM, A NEW LINE ADDED ON HERE IS REQUESTED WAS THE ROLLBACK TAXES AND HOW MUCH WE'RE COLLECTING EACH MONTH.

SO FOR THE MONTH OF JANUARY, YOU'LL NOTE WE COLLECTED $26,469 IN ROLLBACK TAXES.

SO TOTAL COLLECTION OFF ONE HERE.

DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA? I BELIEVE IT'S ONE ONE, BUT I'M NOT POSITIVE.

I JUST, JUST CURIOUS.

PRETTY, NO, I'M JUST CURIOUS.

I THOUGHT YOU MIGHT HAVE, I DON'T REMEMBER HOW MANY PROPERTIES, .

I DON'T.

UM, SO THIS MONTH WE'VE COLLECTED A TOTAL IN 2013 TAXES OF $10,555,036.

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AND FOR OUR TOTAL COLLECTIONS FOR A YEAR TO DATE THEN IS $24,432,985.

THAT'S IN THE GENERAL FUND FOR YOUR ROAD AND BRIDGE.

IT COLLECTED, UH, 1.6 MILLION THIS MONTH, UH, FOR A YEAR TO DATE OF 3.7 MILLION.

DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS GENTLEMEN? ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR UH, NO.

I DO THINK IT'S INTERESTING JUST TO HAVE A ROLL BACK TEXAS, UH, BROKEN OUT JUST TO KIND OF, KIND OF SEE I WAS NOT PRESENT AT THE MEETING WHEN THAT WAS DISCUSSED AND I THINK CLEARED UP SOME MM-HMM .

THINGS.

GOOD UNDERSTANDING OF HOW THAT WORKS.

RIGHT.

WORKS.

THAT'S, THAT'S GOOD.

ALRIGHT.

DO I HAVE A MOTION TO ACCEPT, UH, WELL WE DON'T EVEN REALLY HAVE TO DO THIS, BUT WE CAN ACCEPT THE, UH, TAX ASSESSORS COLLECT, UH, REPORT.

COMMISSIONER SHANE, MAKE UP MOTION.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

NEXT IS, UH, JOHNNY THE, UH, SUBSTITUTE DOES, I'M SORRY TO THIS MORNING.

OKAY.

I GET HE PASSED ON.

NO, I THINK I, I GAVE IT TO YOU.

OKAY.

OH, I GOT TOO THERE.

COLOR CODED RIGHT THERE.

WHERE'S YELLOW? WHEREAS AS YOU CAN SEE, TAX MONEY IS STARTING TO FLOW IN.

BUT ABOUT HALF OF WHAT WE HAVE NOW AT THIS POINT, AT THE END OF, TOWARDS THE END OF FEBRUARY, UM, YOU NOTICE A SMALL TYPO THAT I MADE A CHANGE ON.

UM, AND THEN THERE WAS A $700,000 AMOUNT THAT WENT INTO TAX POOL THAT WAS, UM, FROM THE CONSTRUCTION FUND.

IN YOUR DISCUSSION ABOUT THE CONSTABLE , THE REPORTS THAT ARE ATTACHED OF COURSE LIST ALL OF OUR ACCOUNTS WITHIN THE GENERAL FUND AND THE SEPARATE BANK ACCOUNTS AS WELL.

AND, UH, FUND 58 ON THE SECOND PAGE OF THAT REPORT REFLECTS THE PRECINCT BOARD, CONSTABLES FUND.

AND YES, THIS TIME JUST OUTTA CURIOSITY.

MM-HMM .

WHAT IS FUND 1 0 8 6 DX 10 61 ON THE SECOND PAGE.

OKAY.

A GRANT? YES, SIR.

OKAY.

ANY PARTICULAR GRANT OR IS IT JUST LIKE A POOL FOR ALL GRANT MONEY? NO, EACH GRANT IS LISTED SEPARATE ANY TIME.

SO WHICH GRANT, WHAT IS THAT GRANT FOR? I BELIEVE THAT'S THE ONE THAT'S FOR SHERIFF DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE, SHERIFF'S OFFICE.

PROBABLY ONE THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE? YES.

REIMBURSEMENT FOR THE MURDER TRIAL? MAYBE.

COULD BE.

WELL IT REFERS 2006.

I BE, IT'S BEEN THERE A WHILE.

THAT'S THE REASON I WONDER THAT.

WHAT, YEAH, WE DID SEE SOME MONEY COME IN, BUT I DON'T WANT THE ACCOUNT I 12.

OKAY.

UH, ANY QUESTIONS FOR CHERYL? UH, THE CONSTRUCTION FUND.

MM-HMM .

YOU GOT 110 IN CASH AND 700 INVESTMENTS WERE A TOTAL OF 810,000.

RIGHT.

THERE WAS 810,000 IN THE, IN THE GENERAL FUND BANK ACCOUNT.

AND, UH, JOHNNY

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HAD 700,000 OF THAT JUST TRANSFERRED OVER TO TEXTBOOK JUST TO KEEP SOME MONEY THERE.

I WOULD SAY THERE WAS A, A DIFFERENT NUMBER THAT WE HAD AVAILABLE FOR US TO DO THAT WITH YOU TALKING ABOUT THE UPSTAIRS RENOVATION.

YEAH, I THINK IT'S AROUND 8, 8 10.

YEAH, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

I GUESS HE JUST MOVED PART OF IT OVER INTEREST.

THAT'S BEEN VERY CONSISTENT WITH SEVERAL MONTHS.

ALRIGHTY.

DO WE, UH, HAVE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE, UH, TREASURER'S MONTHLY REPORT? UH, COMMISSIONER, UH, CLARK MAKES THAT MOTION TO HAVE A SECOND.

COMMISSIONER ROSA SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

THOSE OPPOSED.

ITEM NUMBER 12 IS TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER APPROVING A CHANGE IN THE 20 13 20 14 BUDGET TO MOVE EXTRA HELP REIMBURSEMENT FROM THE FARM MUSEUM BUDGET TO THE HISTORICAL COMMISSION BUDGET.

DANNY, I KNOW YOU'RE HERE.

UH, YOU PROBABLY KNOW CAROL AS WELL.

APPARENTLY THERE'S SOME, THEY HAVE WANTED THAT EXTRA HELP FOR THAT SALARY MOVED OVER INTO THE GENERAL FUND, BUT IT HAS REMAINED IN THE FARM MUSEUM.

YEAH, IT'S, IT'S ALWAYS BEEN CHARGED TO THE PHARMACY ACCOUNT INSTEAD OF THE GENERAL ACCOUNT.

AND I'VE NOTICED IT BEFORE, BUT WE JUST NEVER HAVE TAKEN ANY ACTION ON IT.

BUT NOW WE'RE SPENDING ALL THE MONEY FROM THE PHARMACY, UH, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE'RE WORKING OUT THERE AND IT'S GOTTEN REALLY WHERE ALL OF OUR MONEY PRACTICALLY IS GOING THERE, BUT WE, WE'VE ACCUMULATED MONEY IN OUR GENERAL ACCOUNT AND WE NEED, AND MY PLACE YOU PAY ME DOES NOT NEED TO COME OUT OF THE FIRM MUSEUM COUNTY.

IT NEEDS TO COME OUTTA THE GENERAL ACCOUNT.

SO THIS STATEMENT YOU JUST GAVE US, UH, CAROL YES.

IS, IS IT HOW MUCH OF THAT FARM MUSEUM IS IT GONNA ALLEVIATE? UH, ELIMINATE ALL OF IT OR? WELL, EVENTUALLY IT WILL.

OH, THE, LET'S SEE, THE, UH, FARM MUSEUM PAGE, UM, THE EXTRA HELP.

NOW THIS IS THE TENTATIVE COPY.

THIS IS NOT THE FINAL BUDGET.

RIGHT.

BUT, UH, THAT SHOWED THE PROJECTED AMOUNT TO BE 30.

OKAY, WELL THIS, WE HAVE 4,800 IN THE FARM, 48, 29 IN THERE NOW IN THE ENTIRE, FOR THE ENTIRE COUNTY.

RIGHT, RIGHT.

AND THIS IS JUST FIRST WHAT SHE'S ASKING TO HAVE OVER THE HISTORICAL COMMISSION BECAUSE YOU CAN SEE THAT THE HISTORICAL COMMISSION, UH, FUND 60 81 1 MM-HMM .

IT'S GOT SUBSTANTIAL, IT'S GOT 21,000 IN IT.

THAT WAS A CONCERN.

SEE, WE, WE'VE ACCUMULATED MONEY IN THAT ACCOUNT, BUT THEY AND THE PHARMA COUNTY WHERE WE NEED THE FUNDS RIGHT NOW BECAUSE WE'RE DOING ALL THAT WORK OUT THERE AND WE'RE SPENDING ALL THAT MONEY THAT WE'D ACCUMULATED.

AND, UH, ALSO WE HAVE BEEN PAYING OUR, OUR ARCHITECT AND UH, UH, WE'RE DOING OUR MASTER PLAN.

IT'S A $28,000 CONTRACT THAT WE'VE COMMITTED TO.

AND THEY, THEY'RE CHARGING US BY THE MONTH AS THEY DO THE WORK.

AND THERE'S BEEN TWO INVOICES THAT WE'VE GOTTEN.

I THINK IT'S RUNNING AROUND 1800, $1,900 A MONTH THAT WE'RE PAYING OFF THAT $28,000.

AND WE, THAT'S COMING OUT OF THE POOR FARM ACCOUNT BECAUSE THAT IS FOR THE, THE, UH, RESTORATION OF THE PERFORM INTO THAT HISTORICAL SIDE.

SO, UH, ANYHOW, WE'RE TRYING TO USE UP THE MONEY THAT WE'VE ACCUMULATED OVER THE YEARS THAT WE HAVEN'T SPENT AND WE'VE GOT ALL THAT MONEY IN, IN ADMINIS IN THE GENERAL ACCOUNT, WHICH WE DON'T SPEND VERY MUCH AT ALL.

AND YET WE'RE SPENDING ALL THE MONEY FOR THE BULL FARM.

AND SO I, I'VE NOTICED THAT THAT WAS HAPPENING, BUT IT'S ONLY BEEN RECENTLY THAT WE'RE GONNA REALLY GO IN THE RED IN THE POOR FARM AND WE'RE GONNA SPEND THE PART OUT OF THE GENERAL ACCOUNT.

RIGHT.

SO I DON'T KNOW HOW TO FIX IT EXCEPT WE CAN START PAYING OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND AND JUST CHARGE AND WE'LL KEEP THE RECORDS FOR THE POOR FARM.

THE ONLY THING I DON'T OBJECT KEEP US FROM GOING IN THE RED.

KAREN, YOU YES, SIR.

WHAT'S THE, AFTER YOU'RE LISTING ALL THIS, I GUESS IT'S, IT'S THEIR MONEY YOU GIVE BOTH TO THE, THE FARM MUSEUM AND THE HISTORICAL COMMISSION.

THEY REQUESTED THIS AND MR. COUNTRYMAN APPROVED IT, BUT HE'S NOT OVER PAYROLL AND HE'S NOT OVER THE BUDGET.

AND I TOLD HIM HE HAD TO BRING IT TO COMMISSIONER'S COURT BEFORE I COULD MAKE THOSE ADJUSTMENTS.

OKAY.

I HAVE NO ISSUE DOING IT.

I MEAN, THERE'S NO PROBLEM WITH IT WHATSOEVER.

IT'S JUST AMENDING THE BUDGET FOR WHAT THEY'RE WANTING TO DO.

OKAY.

AND, UH, SHE JUST

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SAID THAT THEY HAD BEEN DOING IT THIS WAY FOR YEARS AND NEVER ASKED FOR IT TO BE CHANGED.

NOW THAT THEY'RE SPENDING THEIR MONEY, IT'S COMING BECOME AN ISSUE BECAUSE WE'RE HAVING TO COVER THE BILLS BY TRANSFERRING THE MONEY.

NOW WE'VE ONLY HAD THIS IN, IN PLACE WHERE WE'RE PAYING.

ANYBODY MIGHT PAY ME RIGHT NOW BECAUSE I CAN'T GET ANYBODY ELSE TO DO IT, BUT .

BUT, UH, WE, THAT'S ONLY BEEN WHAT, TWO YEARS, THREE YEARS, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

SO IT IS BEEN SINCE THE INCEPTION THAT YOU STARTED DOING THIS THAT, UH, THAT IT'S BEEN THIS WAY.

OF COURSE, WE DIDN'T DO MUCH WITH IT UNTIL WE STARTED HAVING TO SPEND ALL THIS MONEY.

CAN'T YOU CONTINUE TO PAY FOR IT OUT OF TWO SEPARATE LINES, TWO SEPARATE BUDGETS.

IS IS THERE A POSSIBILITY THAT YOU COULD JUST PUT IT ON IN ONE ACCOUNT? WELL, THAT WAS JUST WHAT BUDGET? THERE WAS ANY REASON WE HAD TO HAVE TWO SEPARATE.

THERE'S NOT, THERE ISN'T, IS THERE, KAREN? NO.

IT IT'S NOT, IT WAS SET UP THAT WAY 20 YEARS AGO WHEN, WHEN THEY HAD, WHEN THEY WERE OPERATING IT SEPARATELY AS A MUSEUM, WHICH HASN'T BEEN DONE IN, I KNOW, 15, 16 YEARS THAT I'VE BEEN WITH THEM.

IT'S NEVER BEEN DONE THAT WAY.

WE HAVEN'T HAD, WE DON'T HAVE A MUSEUM.

WE NEVER HAVE HAD THIS MASTER PLAN THAT WE'RE DEVELOPING.

IS THAT GONNA POSSIBLY CREATE A, A MUSEUM OR ABSOLUTELY.

MAYBE A MONEY MAKER THAT ABSOLUTELY WOULDN'T WE WANT TO KEEP THAT IN THE POOR FARM ACCOUNT SEPARATE FROM THE HISTORICAL OR NOT? WELL, RIGHT NOW, I MEAN, IF WE, IF PEOPLE GIVE DONATIONS, THEY SAY, I WANT TO DONATE TO THE POOR FARM ONLY, YOU KNOW, NO, MAYBE NOT.

THE REST HISTORIC PEOPLE GIVE DONATIONS TO THE FRIENDS OF KAUFFMAN COUNTY HISTORIC COMMISSION, WHICH IS A SEPARATE CORPORATION.

RIGHT.

THERE'S NO TAX INVOLVED, NOTHING.

AND IT'S A 5 0 1 3 C AND THE FRIENDS, UH, RAISE THE MONEY, DISTRIBUTE MONEY.

NOW, IF ON THE COURT OF FOREIGN IN THE MUSEUM THAT'S SEPARATE, WHAT WE CAN DO IS IF TORICAL COMMISSION NEEDS MONEY TO PAY FOR SOMETHING, UH, THAT'S THE COUNTIES, WE, THE HISTORICAL COMMISSION GOES TO THE FRIENDS AND THEY SAY, WILL YOU FUND? OR, OR IT'S LIKE A GRANT RIGHT? FROM THE FRIENDS TO THE HISTORICAL COMMISSION AND THEN THE FRIENDS PAY FOR IT.

SO IT NEVER GOES THROUGH OUR ACCOUNT.

THE ONLY THING THAT GOES THROUGH OUR ACCOUNT IS WHAT COUNTY GIVES US.

OKAY.

UH, WHY DON'T WE MAYBE DO THIS, MAYBE JIMMY, IF YOU COULD MAYBE MEET WITH JOHNNY AND WITH JAMIE AND, AND, UH, WELL, I I HAVE NO, YOU KNOW, ISSUE WITH, WITH DOING THIS TODAY.

IT JUST, BUT I MEAN, IF WE DECIDED TO COMBINE THE TWO RIGHT.

I DON'T WHAT THE PLUSES ARE.

IT'S PLUS TO ME JUST HAVE ONE LESS COUNT.

IT'S A PLUS TO US TO GET JUST ONE CHECK AND HAVE, AND WE, WE ARE KEEPING, NOW WE ARE STARTING TO KEEP OUR RECORDS AS TO WHAT OUR EXPENDITURES ARE, WHAT IT GOES FOR WHEN WE TURN IN, UH, REIMBURSEMENT THINGS.

NOW, YOU, YOU CAN ATTEST TO THAT.

WE HAVEN'T DONE THIS IN THE PAST.

WE'VE, WE STARTED THIS YEAR TO TRY TO BE LIKE AN A COUNTY ENTITY AND, AND DO THIS THINGS LIKE THE REST OF THE COUNTY DOES.

NOW WHAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT IS MAYBE JUST TALKING ABOUT THE POSSIBLE ACCOMMODATION.

AND I GUESS THAT WOULD TAKE COMMISSIONER'S COURT APPROVAL.

UH, KAREN? I, I WOULD THINK SO.

BUT YOU'RE FIXING TO MESS UP, MESS UP THE HISTORY THAT'S BEEN OVER 10 YEARS.

'CAUSE WE JUST PAID THAT MONEY TO HAVE ALL THE HISTORY THERE AND THOSE, BOTH OF THOSE ACCOUNTS.

AND I'M NOT KNOWING THE LEGALITIES OF THAT PART.

THAT'S, I JUST PAY THEIR BILLS.

OKAY.

WELL WE CAN KEEP A MUSEUM ACCOUNT SEPARATELY IF YOU WANT TO DO THAT.

AND THAT, WELL, IT, IT JUST CAME UP IN DISCUSSION AND IT SEEMED LIKE A GOOD IDEA TO ME, BUT PAY THEIR REASON NOT TO DO THAT.

AND I, HIS THOUGHT MIGHT BE WORTH CHECKING, BUT UNTIL, I MEAN, THE LITTLE BIT OF MONEY WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE IS NOT GONNA MAKE ANY DIFFERENCE ONE WAY OR ANOTHER.

RIGHT.

YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST THAT WE LIKE TO HAVE IT IN THE PLACE THAT IT BELONGS.

YEAH.

AND SO THAT'S, I THINK IF YOU CAN ADDRESS THAT TODAY, THAT'S ALL WE NEED TO DO.

BUT WELL, WHY DON'T WE DO THAT IF EVERYBODY'S OKAY WITH THAT, WE'LL DISCUSS THAT IN A SECOND.

BUT AT SOME POINT IN TIME, YOU KNOW, YOU MIGHT INVESTIGATE THAT A LITTLE BIT AND SEE IF THAT'S A POSSIBILITY.

AND THEN WE CAN COME BACK WITH A, WELL, THINGS ARE, THINGS ARE GOING TO CHANGE TREMENDOUSLY.

AND RIGHT NOW WE'RE JUST TRYING TO GET THAT MASTER PLAN PAID FOR BECAUSE THAT'S THE $28,000 CONTRACT THAT WE'VE ENTERED INTO.

RIGHT.

WE ARE GONNA TRY TO SPEND THE MONEY THAT WE'VE ACCUMULATED FIRST AND THEN WHEN WE NEED MORE MONEY, WE'LL EITHER GET IT FROM, WE'LL HAVE TO, IF WE GO, LIKE, IF WE GO IN THE RED, WE'LL JUST HAVE TO ASK THE FRIENDS TO HAVE TO GET IT.

ALL THE COUNTY WOULD, WOULD MAYBE SEE

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FIT TO PUT MORE MONEY INTO IT LATER.

WE HEAR THAT PRETTY OFTEN.

, THE COUNTY WILL.

BUT IT, I, I JUST, YOU KNOW, THAT'S, THAT'S GOOD.

WHAT, WHAT'S YOUR PLEASURE, GENTLEMEN ON THIS? I MAKE A MOTION, WE APPROVE THE CHANGE IN THE 20 13 20 14 BUDGET TO MOVE EXTRA HELP REIMBURSEMENT FROM THE FARM MUSEUM BUDGET TO THE HISTORICAL COMMISSION BUDGET.

OKAY.

WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER ROSA.

DO WE HAVE A SECOND MR. SHANE SECOND'S MOTION FOR THE DISCUSSION? CLARIFY ONE THING FOR ME.

ARE WE TALKING ABOUT LINES 81 AND 82 ON THIS SHEET RIGHT HERE? BECAUSE IT, I DON'T SEE ANYTHING ABOUT EXTRA HELP REIMBURSEMENT.

IT'S IN A BUDGET.

IT'S BUDGET HISTORICAL COMMISSION.

RIGHT.

THERE IS THE BUDGET WITHIN THAT, THERE IS ONE LINE THAT REFERS TO EXTRA.

YOU'RE JUST ASKING TO MOVE THAT LINE CORRESPOND WITH COMMISSIONERS.

LET ME EXPLAIN TO YOU HOW THIS WORKS.

SHE IS PAID OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND IN THE LINE ITEM SET UP THAT'S BEEN THERE FOR YEARS AND 4 0 9.

WHAT HAPPENS IS, MR. PETMAN, WHEN WE DO PAYROLL, HAS CAROL WRITE A CHECK TO REIMBURSE THE GENERAL AND I CO-SIGN IT.

THAT'S HOW IT WORKS.

IT'S A REIMBURSEMENT.

OKAY.

THERE'S ALSO TWO OTHER LINE ITEMS IN 4 0 9 THAT WE GIVE A MONTHLY OR QUARTERLY DONATION, NOT DONATION, BUT A TRANSFER TO THE HISTORICAL COMMISSION AND TO THE PORN MUSEUM.

SO WE ARE GIVING THEM MONEY PLUS PAYING FOR THE HER SALARY BENEFITS.

THEN THEY WRITE A CHECK BACK TO COVER THAT PART OF HER SALARY.

IT'S A LITTLE CONFUSING OF WHY IT'S DONE THAT WAY, BUT THAT'S THE WAY IT'S BEEN SET UP FOR YEARS.

I WAS JUST ASKING BECAUSE IT, I WASN'T LOOKING AT THAT .

OKAY.

BUT IF WE'VE BEEN DOING IT, I WOULD LIKE TO SAY IT TO BE DONE AT BUDGET TIME BECAUSE CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, TO AMEND THE BUDGET NEEDS TO BE AN EMERGENCY, THEN PROCEED EMERGENCY N THERE IS A STATUTE THAT SAYS THAT, BUT YOU ALSO HAVE THAT ABILITY TO, UH, CHANGE THINGS.

YOU'RE, YOU'RE NOT REALLY AMENDING THE BUDGET, YOU'RE TRANSFERRING.

SO IT'S NOT AN EMERGENCY LIKE A LINE ITEM TRANSFER.

AND IT'S GONNA BE BETWEEN THE FUND AND THE STICKY PART IS WE'RE IN THE MIDDLE OF A PAYROLL SEASON, SO NOW WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO DO MAINTENANCE TO CHANGE THE WAY SHE'S SET UP AND ALL OF HER BENEFITS AND CHARGES THAT GO TO ONE FUND GOES TO ANOTHER FUND.

SO WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO CREATE NEW LINE ITEMS, BUT THEN DO A LINE ITEM TRANSFER FOR Y'ALL TO SIGN OFF ON THAT, PUTS THAT MONEY IN THERE.

OKAY.

DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS? I, JAMIE YOU HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION THERE, KAREN, BEFORE YOU SIT DOWN.

YES SIR.

YOU WERE ASKING WELL, YEAH.

UH, I DIDN'T REALIZE THIS WAS GONNA BE THAT PHD , I ONLY WORK ONE DAY A WEEK AND, AND I DON'T GET PAID ON A LOT .

I MEAN, I'D BE WILLING TO JUST VOLUNTEER AGAIN, YOU KNOW.

BUT I THINK THE COMMISSION NEEDS SOMEONE TO WORK IN THEIR OFFICE AND, AND, UH, THE ONLY REASON IT'S ME.

I, IN FACT, I'M NOT A COMMISSIONER ANYMORE BECAUSE I'M GETTING PAID AND I'D BE HAPPY TO TURN IT OVER TO SOMEBODY ELSE.

BUT HERE'S THE THING, IF , NOW, IF WE SPEND SOME MONEY FOR THE, UH, AND I SEND IN FOR A REIMBURSEMENT, LIKE I, I'VE JUST GIVEN YOU ONE TODAY AND I SAID TO TAKE IT OUTTA THE POCKET.

WELL, FROM NOW WHEN WE GO IN THE RED IN THE POR FORM, WHICH WE'RE GONNA DO REAL QUICKLY, IN FACT OUR NEXT INVOICE WILL PROBABLY PUT US IN THE RED.

WHEN I DO PAY ANYTHING OUT THAT BELONGS TO THEFOR, CAN I JUST ASK FOR A CHECK OUT OF THE, THE GENERAL FUND AND JUST FOR OUR RECORDS SHOW ITS PERFORM EXPENSE.

MM-HMM.

I WON'T DO IT THAT WAY.

IN FACT, IF YOU DON'T HAVE THE MONEY IN THE FARM, I WILL NOT COUNTERSIGN THAT CHECK.

WHAT I WOULD SUGGEST YOU DO ON THAT IS MAYBE GET WITH JOHNNY AND KAREN AND AND CAROL AND SEE IF THERE'S SOME, SOME WHAT, WHAT THE CORRECT PROCEDURE.

WELL, IF YOU, IF WE STILL HAVE MONEY IN THE GENERAL FUND THAT WE OWE THAT POOR FORM, I DON'T MIND TRANSFERRING THAT TO HELP YOU OUT.

BUT THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO APPROVE IT BECAUSE I DO IT BY A SPECIFIC TIMEFRAME.

WELL SAY I GET IT FROM OUR ARCHITECT FROM MCQUIN, YOU KNOW, THE PEOPLE THAT ARE WORKING THAT WE'RE PAYING EVERY MONTH.

IF I GET AN INVOICE FROM THEM, CAN I JUST PAY THEM OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND?

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IT'S NOT A BUDGETED ITEM UNLESS Y'ALL APPROVED IT.

WELL, WE DON'T HAVE, IT'S NOT AN ITEM BUDGET.

OURS IS SO DIFFERENT BECAUSE YOU'VE ALLOWED US ACCUMULATE MONEY OVER THE YEARS AND WE'VE GOT $20,000 BRING THE FUND.

WE GET ACROSS THE BOARD AMOUNT EVERY YEAR.

WE DON'T HAVE AN ITEMIZED BUDGET TALKING ABOUT THE FRIENDS FUND.

NO FRIENDS DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH CORPORATION.

ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE COUNTY'S GENERAL FUND? ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT I'M TALKING ABOUT WHAT'S CALLED THE HISTORICAL COMMISSION FUND ONE.

SEE, WE DON'T EVEN TURN IN AN ITEMIZED BUDGET.

YOU GUYS, YOU GUYS GIVE US $10,000 A YEAR SPLIT BETWEEN THE POOR FARM MUSEUM AND THE OTHER ONE.

MY, IT'S THE ONLY LINE ITEM BUDGET WE HAVE IS THAT WE APPROVED.

HAVE YOU, HAVE YOU GOT A BUDGET? YES MA'AM.

I DO HAVE BUDGET.

NOBODY JUST COMMUNICATES TO ME WHAT THEY WANT.

SO I'LL HAVE TO GUESS.

OKAY.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

AND YOUR MISCELLANEOUS, NO, YOUR ESTIMATED BEGINNING BALANCE.

THAT'S HISTORICAL.

WHERE'S THE FORM? OKAY.

IN YOUR, UH, THE EXTRA HELP, I'D PUT SEVEN IN YOUR MISCELLANEOUS.

I HAD PUT SIX, UH, 4,050 COUNTY PORTION, 96 53 THAT YOU HAD ACCUMULATED, WHICH GAVE YOU A BUDGET OF 13,768 IN UH, THE FARM MUSEUM.

YEAH.

BUT NOW WE'VE GOT, WHAT, UH, LESS THAN 2000 ACCORDING TO THIS, IT'S 48, 29.

OKAY.

IN, OKAY.

WRONG TIME.

LEMME GET TO 82.

THAT 10,000 CONTRIBUTION IS THAT YOU ONLY GOT 20, YOU'VE GOT 2100 THAT THIS DOLLARS A QUARTERLY PAYMENT, THAT $10,000, WHAT COMES, IS THAT A QUARTERLY PAYMENT OR A LUMP SUM? NO, IT'S QUARTER.

IT'S QUARTERLY.

YOU HAVE, YOU HAVE ONE LINE ITEM THAT YOU GIVE TO THE FARM MUSEUM OF 4,050.

AND I THINK IT'S THE SAME AMOUNT FOR THE HISTORICAL TOO, RIGHT? I HAVE TO LOOK AT IT.

YEAH, IT'S SPLIT.

WELL, EACH QUARTERLY CHECK THAT COMES FOR GRADE $400.

IT SPLIT 17.

IS THAT WHAT THE 1700 RECEIPTS ARE? 1,712 FOR ONE AND 17, THREE FOR THE OTHER ONE.

THAT'S, THAT'S IT.

AND, AND MY LINE ITEM IS WORKING ONE DAY A WEEK, WHICH IS WHICH, IF WE'VE GOT A LINE ITEM HERE, WE CAN PAY SOMEONE SAY IT'S $5,000 A YEAR OUT OF THE 10,000 THAT WE GET.

SO ANY, ANYTHING THAT WE'VE GOT IN THOSE ACCOUNTS NOW IS WHAT WE'VE ACCUMULATED OVER THE YEARS THAT WE HAVE, ARE ALLOWED US TO ACCUMULATE.

BECAUSE YOU DON'T START US OVER EVERY YEAR.

AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE SPENDING.

I MEANT Y'ALL, I WANTED TO ASK MS. JAMIE, YOU'RE PAYING YOUR ARCHITECT OUT OF YOUR FARM MUSEUM, RIGHT? YEAH, BECAUSE IT, THAT'S WHAT IT'S ON.

OKAY.

HOW DID YOU THINK YOU WERE GONNA PAY FOR A $28,000 CONTRACT WHEN YOU DIDN'T HAVE 28,000 IN THE BANK TO START WITH? WE DO HAVE $25,000.

WE'VE GOT IN OUR, IN OUR ACCOUNT, WE'VE GOT 20 BOTH ACCOUNTS.

WE HAD THAT MUCH WHEN WE STARTED.

OKAY.

AND WE'VE ALSO, THE FRIENDS WILL FUND PART OF IT TOO.

BUT WE WERE TRYING TO SPEND OUR ACCUMULATED COUNTY MONEY FIRST BECAUSE IT'S A COUNTY PROPERTY.

IT WAS COUNTY, IT GOES FOR THE COUNTY AND IT GOES FOR REDOING THAT FOR FARM.

SO.

WELL AND THE HISTORICAL COMMISSION YOU HAVE RIGHT TODAY UNTIL WE PAY THE BILLS, YOU'VE GOT 20 1008 78 IN IT.

YEAH, THAT'S FINE.

WE'RE GETTING BILLED MONTHLY AND IT'S LIKE SHE, I THINK THE FIRST TWO, WE PAID TWO INVOICES SO FAR.

ONE OF 'EM IS 1800 I THINK, AND THE OTHER ONE WAS 1900.

AND SHE'S BILLING US AS THEY DO THE WORK AND SHE'LL SEND US AN INVOICE AND SHOW US WHAT PERCENTAGE OF THAT, UH, MASTER PLAN THEY'VE GOT DONE.

AND SO IT'S SPREAD OUT OVER THE TIME THAT IT TAKES TO DO THAT MASTER PLAN.

SO IT'S NOT ONE BIG LUMP SIGN.

RIGHT.

I WOULD MAKE A SUGGESTION, JUDGE, TO KEEP THE RECORD STRAIGHT AND HAVE A A, A HISTORY, A TRAIL OF, YOU KNOW, WHAT WAS ACTUALLY DONE WHEN YOU GET TO THE PARK THAT YOU NEED THE FRIENDS TO HELP, THEY SHOULD WRITE YOUR MUSEUM OR THE HISTORICAL A CHECK AND WE PAY ALL THE BILLS OUT OF THESE ACCOUNTS.

SO YOU WOULD HAVE A COMPLETE RECORD OF HOWEVER MUCH WAS SPENT INSTEAD OF IT BEING SPREAD FROM THIS ORGANIZATION TO THE COUNTY TO THIS, TO THAT.

I MEAN THAT'S JUST A SUGGESTION.

WELL I DIDN'T WANT TO GO TO THE FRIENDS UNTIL WE SPENT OUR COUNTY MONEY.

I UNDERSTAND.

ALRIGHT, SO KAREN, BACK ON ITEM NUMBER 12 HERE.

WHAT IS YOUR POSITION ON MOVING THE

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EXTRA HELP BE REIMBURSEMENT FROM THE FARM MUSEUM BUDGET TO THE HISTORICAL COMMISSION? I HAVE NO ISSUE.

IT'S JUST GONNA TAKE ME SOME, THE NEEDLE IN TO GET IT DONE.

OKAY.

BECAUSE SHE'S SET UP IN ONE FUND TO BE PAID AND I'VE GOTTA SET ALL OF HER PERSONNEL LINE ITEMS NOW TO GO TO A DIFFERENT FUND.

BUT AS FAR AS YOU'RE CONCERNED, THERE'S NO PROBLEM IN DOING THAT OTHER THAN THE EXTRA WORK THAT'S GOING.

NOT THEY BOARD TO APPROVE IT.

I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING AGAINST IT.

I JUST COULDN'T DO IT WITH JUST MR. COUNTRY.

MISS SAYING HE HAD ATTENDED IN ANY COURT.

PROVE IT.

GENTLEMEN, WHAT'S YOUR PLEASURE ON THIS? WE ALREADY ALREADY MOTION, UH, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

SO, OKAY, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

AN INTERESTING DISCUSSION.

WE EDUCATIONAL WE'RE ITEM NUMBER 13.

UH, I HAVE PUT THIS ON THE BUDGET ON, BUT ON THE AGENDA TO, UH, DISCUSS CONSIDERING A COUNTY OFFICIALS WHO AUTHORIZED TOP, UH, ENGINEERS ROUTE THAT WE CHOSEN TO BE OUR ENGINEER REQUIREMENTS.

IT MIGHT BE A GOOD IDEA MAYBE TO UH, UH, HAVE ONE DESIGN ESTIMATED PERSON, UH, TO CONTACT THEM AND MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE KIND OF ALL ON THE SAME PAGE AS FAR AS WE ASK THEM TO DO.

YOU'VE GOT THREE OR FOUR BILLS, UH, THAT HAVE COME IN THAT, UH, THERE'S QUESTIONS ABOUT WHO CALLED THEM TO DO THIS AND WHO CALLED THEM TO DO THAT.

WE NEED TO PAY THEM AND I THINK AT THIS POINT FORWARD, UH, WE NEED TO MAYBE, AND I PROBABLY, IF I'M THE ONE I WOULD PROBABLY DO IT EITHER BY A FORMAL LETTER OR MY EMAIL.

WE'LL GET THEM THAT.

ALRIGHT, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THAT? I WASN'T LOOKING FOR A JOB, BUT I MEAN I THINK HE DOES NEED TO BE DONE.

SO WE HAVE A MOTION ON THAT.

SO MAY MR. MANNING MAKE THAT MOTION? UH, YOU SECOND MR. JAMES.

SECOND MOTION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

THOSE OPPOSED.

ITEM NUMBER 14 IS TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER APPROVING THE RESOLUTION FOR SIGNATURES ON THREE GRANT REQUESTS PREVIOUSLY APPROVED TO BE SENTENCED.

THE NORTH CENTRAL TEXAS COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENTS ON BEHALF OF THE KAUFMAN COUNTY ENVIRONMENTAL CO-OP.

DO WE HAVE SOMEONE HERE THAT, UH, SPEAK ON THAT SHOULD BE FREE, QUICK AND EASY TODAY.

YOU GUYS HAVE ALREADY, YOU HAVE KIND OF A SHADY CHARACTER.

YOU'VE BEEN SITTING BACK HERE WITH .

I'LL INTRODUCE HIM TOO BECAUSE YOU GUYS, UM, APPROVE THESE THREE GRANTS THAT YOU GUYS SHOULD HAVE THE RESOLUTIONS FOR.

I BELIEVE YOU HAVE THOSE.

I DO.

UM, Y'ALL APPROVED THESE FOR MARILYN TWO WEEKS AGO, I BELIEVE, AND MARILYN IS GOING TO BE STEPPING DOWN AS OUR EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR.

SHE'S GOT SOME OTHER WORK SHE IS GOING ON TO DO.

SO SOME OF Y'ALL MAY KNOW MR. WHI, CHARLES WHITAKER WILL BE COMING IN TO STEP IN FOR HER.

SO HE AND I WILL BE WORKING ON THESE GRANTS.

SO MR. WHITAKER'S GONNA BE WORKING WITH THE ENVIRONMENTAL CO-OP.

MM-HMM .

YEAH.

Y'ALL GOT A BACKGROUND CHECK OR YEAH, WE ARE IN THE PROCESS.

EVERYTHING.

HE'S JUST FEELING IT OUT TODAY.

.

UM, BUT THE, THE OR ITEM NUMBER 14, YOU GUYS SHOULD HAVE HAD THOSE, I BELIEVE THOSE RESOLUTIONS HAVE NOT HAVE GOT A COPY OF THEM THERE.

AND IT'S JUST FOR THE THREE GRANTS Y'ALL ALREADY APPROVED.

WE'RE STILL FINISHING UP THE WRITING.

WHEN WE GET 'EM ALL WRITTEN, WE'LL BRING 'EM IN FOR THE, UM, FINAL SIGNATURE AND APPROVAL BEFORE WE SEND 'EM TO COG.

AND IT'S THE ILLEGAL DUMPING GRANT, WHICH SHOULD BE ABLE TO GET SOME MORE TIRES HAULED OUTTA HERE.

AND THEN, UM, ONE FOR THE RECYCLING PLANT TO HELP GET THAT.

UM, WE, WE KEEP, I I THINK THE AMOUNT OF RECYCLABLES IS QUADRUPLED IN THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS.

AGAIN, ON TOP OF THE QUADRUPLE IN THE FIRST COUPLE OF YEARS IT WAS THERE.

SO IT KEEPS COMING UP, BUT IT'S SO MANUAL THAT THIS GRANT WILL HOPEFULLY MOVE IT INTO A LITTLE LESS LABOR INTENSIVE, UM, IF WE CAN GET THE TYPE OF SYSTEM THAT'S NEEDED.

AND THEN, SO THAT'S MOSTLY FOR RECYCLING.

AND THEN I'LL LOOK AT THE THIRD ONE I BELIEVE IS THE, WE'RE IN THE 16TH YEAR OF OUR 20 YEAR, UM, STATE APPROVED PLAN.

THE ONLY ONE OF ITS KIND.

AND SO IT'S TO HAVE A, SORRY I'M LOSING MY VOICE, BUT, UH, HAVE THE SURVEY KIND OF HAVE IT SET UP TO PUT A PROJECTION FORWARD FOR MAYBE THE NEXT 20 YEARS.

WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD FOR WHAT COFFMAN COUNTY NEEDS TO DO AND SOLID WASTE MANAGEMENT, THAT KIND OF THING.

OKAY.

CANDICE, I, WHEN I GO OUT TO THE SITE ON AIRPORT ROAD MM-HMM .

YOU KNOW, PRETTY OFTEN TO TAKE STUFF OUT THERE AND IT'S ALWAYS PACKED AND RUNNING OVER MM-HMM .

AND SO IS THAT JUST BECAUSE OF THE LACK OF SPACE OR, UH, LACK OF YEAH, LACK OF SPACE.

EXTRA.

I MEAN, IT'S JUST PEOPLE ARE BRINGING IT.

UH, WHEN THE SITE HAD TO CLOSE AT THE DELPHINE AND HIGH LOCATION, REMEMBER THAT, UH, WE HAD TO CLOSE THAT DOWN.

SO THE ONLY DROP OFF NOW IN THE TARRELL VICINITY IS THAT AIRPORT ROAD.

IT USED TO JUST HAVE ONE AND THEN WE HAD THE ONE AT DELPHINE AND HIGH.

BUT

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WE HAVE THAT ONE.

WE HAVE, UM, SCHOOLS THAT ARE BRINGING THE MATERIAL TO US NOW.

WE'VE GOT, UM, IT SERVICES THE WHOLE REGION REALLY A LOT.

THERE'S NOT ANY RECYCLING FOR THE REGION, AS Y'ALL KNOW.

SO RIGHT NOW YOUR PLANT IS WHAT'S, YOU KNOW, RECYCLING FOR THE WHOLE COGMAN COUNTY, YOU KNOW, BEYOND IF THEY BRING IT TO US.

RIGHT.

I NOTICED THAT LL ISD NOW HAS SOME RECYCLING, UH, DUMPSTERS AROUND.

THEY DO.

AND I'M NOT, IS THAT SEPARATE FROM TOTALLY SEPARATE.

OKAY.

TOTALLY SEPARATE.

THEY HAD THEIR OWN GRANT.

THEY'VE GOT THEIR OWN RECYCLED BINS.

UM, WE DO ACTUALLY BRING IN THE, THE HAULING FROM THAT, BUT IF THEY PICK UP AND DECIDE TO GO WITH SOMEBODY ELSE LATER, THEY CAN DO THAT.

IT'S JUST, UM, RIGHT NOW THEY'RE BRINGING THE MATERIAL TO US SO THAT IT COMES TO THE COUNTY.

SO Y'ALL ARE AWARE OF THE FACT THAT BEING STAYED FULL QUITE A BIT? OH YEAH.

AND WE CAN'T KEEP THEM HAULED.

I MEAN, YEAH, THERE'S, THERE'S A LOT THAT NEEDS TO BE, HOPEFULLY WITH THIS RECYCLING GRANT HERE, IT'LL PUT IN PLACE PROCEDURES AND, AND GET SOME EQUIPMENT IN THAT WILL HELP US HAVE MORE ABILITY TO GO OUT AND COLLECT THEM, YOU KNOW, AND, AND PROCESS THEM EASIER.

A LOT LESS MADE.

I MEAN THEY LITERALLY ARE DUMPING IT ON THE FLOOR AND HAVING TO BAIL IT BY AND EVERYTHING THAT'S GOING THROUGH HERE.

AND IT WAS OVER 1,000,600 THOUSAND I BELIEVE AS OF LIKE NOVEMBER OF THIS LAST YEAR.

SO IT'S A LOT OF MATERIAL.

AND THE REASON I BRING THAT UP, I'LL JUST TELL YOU A QUICK LITTLE STORY.

ONE DAY WHEN I WAS OUT THERE TAKING SOME STUFF, THERE WAS A LADY AND AN ELDER, A COUPLE THERE, THEY WERE UNLOADING SOME STUFF AND UH, THEY MADE SOME COMMENT, WELL, IF THE COUNTY'S GONNA OPERATE THIS THING, THEY OUGHT AT LEAST HAVE IT EMPTY.

YOU KNOW, WHERE WE PUT STUFF IN.

I SAID, YEAH, I AGREE WITH YOU.

I YOU OUGHT TO CALL THE COUNTY COMMISSIONER PRECINCT FREE.

THAT'S RIGHT.

AND YEAH, I MEAN, WE NEED, WE FUNDING IS, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF THE ISSUE.

WE'VE GOTTA GET MORE PEOPLE IN THERE, MORE STUFF.

BUT WE'RE HOPING WITH THIS GRANT TO AT LEAST STREAMLINE THE PROCESS SO THAT WE CAN GET THOSE PEOPLE OUT THERE TO BE EMPTYING THEM A LOT MORE FREQUENTLY.

YEAH, IT IS A GOOD PROBLEM TO HAVE.

IT IS, QUITE FRANKLY.

IT'S WONDERFUL.

THERE'S IT, THESE PEOPLE THAT ARE USING THAT FACILITY LIKE YOU ARE GOING OUT OF THEIR WAY TO BRING IT AND, AND PUT IT IN THERE.

SO YEAH, IT IS A GOOD PROBLEM TO HAVE.

OKAY.

DO YOU GUYS, UM, WILL I COLLECT THOSE TODAY OR DO I NEED TO THE RESOLUTIONS THAT YOU HAVE? YOU KNOW, I DON'T, UH, HAVE RESOLUTIONS.

I DON'T, I DON'T HAVE THE RESOLUTIONS HERE, BUT IT'S STUFF.

WE'VE ALREADY IT, I'VE ALREADY APPROVED IT.

I THINK Y'ALL JUST THAT MAYBE IT GOT, GOT THE ONE ON THE, UH, ON THE PLAN.

YEAH, IT LOOKS, I WAS TOLD I WAS JUST PICKING 'EM UP TODAY.

SO HONESTLY, I, I'M NOT SURE BECAUSE I'VE ALREADY APPROVED THEM AND WE JUST NEED THE RESOLUTIONS TO SUBMIT WHEN WE DO THIS.

YOU'LL COME BY MY OFFICE SO I CAN, I CAN BRING THEM OR SOMETHING.

WE CAN DO 'EM BY NEXT TIME.

THAT'S FINE.

ALL SO FOR JUDGE NEED ANYTHING ELSE, THEN I CAN, WE'LL NEED TO MAKE COPIES OF THIS AND SO MM-HMM .

WHY DON'T WE'LL GET 'EM TO YOU.

GREAT, THANK YOU.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT GUYS.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

WE DID, WE UH, WE NEED TO VOTE ON THAT, I GUESS.

DID, DID WE? WE DIDN'T VOTE ON THAT, DID WE? I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE THE GRANT APPLICATION AND RESOLUTION FOR THE COUNCIL.

SOLID WASTE MANAGE.

UH, WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER MANNING.

DO WE HAVE A SECOND? WE SUPPOSED TO BE ON 14 OR 15.

I WAS GONNA ALSO ON NUMBER 15.

Y'ALL ALREADY APPROVED THOSE.

SO NEED 15, 14, AREN'T WE? WE SHOULD BE ON 14 NOW.

YEAH, THAT'S WHAT, THAT'S ONE.

I AGREED.

SO THAT'S YOUR MOTION.

I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE RESOLUTIONS FOR SIGNATURES ON THREE GRANT PREVIOUSLY APPROVED.

OKAY.

AND WE HAVE A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER SHANE.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

OPPOSED? ITEM NUMBER 1515 IS, Y'ALL HAVE ALREADY APPROVED THOSE GRANTS.

I'M NOT SURE WHY THAT ONE'S ON THERE.

THAT'S THAT'S THE TRASH HUB.

THAT'S THE TRASH HUB.

YEAH.

THAT'S, THAT'S WELL THEN MAYBE I NEED TO TALK AND THAT'S SOMETHING, UNLESS I SPOKE TO MARILYN, UM, SHE TOLD US THAT IT'S HER UNDERSTANDING WE'D BE WORKING WITH YOU GUYS ON THAT.

YOU PROBABLY KNOW ABOUT THE PROJECT.

YEAH, I DO A LITTLE BIT.

I JUST RECENTLY BECOME AWARE OF IT.

BUT YES, WE'LL BE, I BELIEVE MANAGING THAT AS WELL.

THE TRASH GRANT.

THE TRASH HUB.

YOU GUYS COME UP AND TALK ABOUT THE CRASH HUB.

I KNOW, I THINK Y'ALL MENTIONED 10 THE OTHER DAY I BELIEVE.

AND UH, YEAH, I THINK I KNOW YOU'VE BEEN, BEEN WORKING ON IT.

THAT'S GONNA BE A PARTNERSHIP.

YEAH.

IN FACT, ONE OF THE QUESTIONS I HAVE AND NUMBER 14 RAISE IS THIS, DO WE NEED TO GO THROUGH A SEPARATE PROCESS? I MEAN, 'CAUSE WE, I GUESS THIS IS THE RESOLUTION TO FINALIZE THE, THE APPLICATION WHICH WE WERE WORKING ON.

AND, AND WE'RE GONNA, WE NEED TO MEET WITH YOU THIS WEEK ON THAT.

THIS IS THE GRANT THAT YOU'RE GOING THROUGH COGO, RIGHT? YES.

RIGHT.

BUT THEN THE QUESTION IS, DO WE NEED TO COME BACK TO THE COMMISSION TO ACTUALLY GET THE SIGNATURES ON THAT? OR IS THAT ALL COVERED BY THIS ONE PROCESS? I UNDERSTAND EVERYTHING, RIGHT.

MARILYN MAY IS TAKING THIS OVER.

I BELIEVE SO.

I DON'T HAVE THAT RESOLUTION.

WE DON'T DO THIS THROUGH THE CO-OP.

Y'ALL CAN'T DO IT.

I'M NOT UNDER, I'M NOT CLEAR ON WHY.

THAT'S FINE WITH US.

WE'RE HAPPY TO DO IT HOWEVER IT MAKES SENSE.

THAT'S WHAT THE, THAT'S, THAT'S WHERE IT

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AT.

THAT'S, UH, THE SITUATION.

SO ANYWAYS, MARILYN WILL DO ALL OF THE LEG WORK, ALL THE GRANT WORK AND EVERYTHING FOR US.

WELL, WE'RE, WE'RE ACTUALLY WORKING ON THE GRANT.

IT'S DUE BASICALLY THE END OF NEXT WEEK.

RIGHT.

SO WE'RE WORKING ON THAT NOW.

AND SHE'S GONE FOR THIS WEEK.

SO WE NEED TO GET YEAH.

IS I, I'LL HAVE TO CHECK THE MARILYN, BUT DO YOU GUYS HAVE I DON'T HAVE A RESOLUTION FOR THE TRASH APP.

I BELIEVE THAT THE GOTCHA.

I THOUGHT, OKAY.

, YOU SAY MARILYN WAS STIPING DOWN FROM THE CO-OP? SHE IS, BUT SHE'S ALSO WORKING WITH US AS A, WE WORK WITH HER WITH RECYCLED RECYCLING ISSUES AND THINGS.

SO SHE, WELL WE HAS SHE, MR. WHITAKER AND I WOULD BE WORKING WITH YOU GUYS.

IT'S NOT MARILYN, IT'S NOT, IT'S THE CO-OP.

IT'S THE CO-OP COOP STARTED THE PROCESS.

SHE WAS WORKING WITH THEM WHEN THEY GOT IT STARTED.

AND MARILYN SAID, THIS IS THE WAY THIS NEEDS TO BE WORDED ON OUR, UH, COURT TODAY TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER THE MOTION TO APPROVE A GRANT APPLICATION RESOLUTION FOR THE KAMAN COUNTY SOLID WASTE MANAGEMENT COOPERATIVE INCORPORATED TO APPLY FOR A GRANT THROUGH NORTH CENTRAL TEXAS COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENTS SOLID WASTE MANAGEMENT LOCALLY IMPLEMENTATION PROGRAM FOR KAMAN COUNTY.

AND, UH, SO ANYWAY, Y'ALL ARE THE GENTLEMEN ARE GONNA WORK WITH, UH, MARYLAND AND CO-OP YES.

THIS IS WHAT MAKES, AND THAT WOULD BE, I GUESS TO APPROVE THAT WE APPLY FOR THIS TRASH HUNT GRANT.

SO THIS RESOLUTION IS JUST APPROVAL FOR, TO APPLY TO IT, TO APPLY FOR THE GRANT'S.

ALL THIS DOES.

SO THEN YEAH, BUT THEN MY QUESTION IS, DO WE NEED TO COME BACK WITH THE COMPLETED ONE FOR THE SIGNATURES SO YOU CAN HANDLE THAT? NO, WE'LL TAKE CARE OF, WE'LL GET THAT TO Y'ALL NOW.

IT'LL BE THROUGH.

OKAY.

EVERYTHING FROM NOW WITH, Y'ALL ARE WORKING WITH, UH, CHARLES STANDUP SO THEY GET TO KNOW YOU TOO.

THEY NEED TO KNOW WHO ELSE IS GONNA BE WORKING WITH CHARLES.

WELL, WE NEED TO WORK WITH YOU THOUGH ON THE SITE.

RIGHT.

BUT ALL THIS OTHER STUFF HERE COMES FIRST.

CORRECT.

NOW YOU CONFUSED .

YEAH.

IT'S ALL CRYSTAL CLEAR NOW.

YEAH.

, WHEN WE INITIALLY MET WITH YOU GUYS, YOU KNOW, IT'S SOMETIME AGO NOW.

THE SCOPE OF THIS HAS CHANGED A LITTLE BIT SINCE THEN.

UH, THE CONCEPT IS STILL THE SAME, WHERE YOU WOULD HAVE THE DRIVE IN, RIGHT.

UH, AND PEOPLE WOULD PAY BASED ON THE WEIGHT.

RIGHT.

RIGHT.

AND BUT NOW THIS WILL ACTUALLY BE, UH, FINANCED, OR MAYBE THAT'S NOT THE RIGHT WORD.

WOULD THE, IT WOULD BE A GRANT THROUGH THE COUNCIL GOVERNMENT.

RIGHT.

IT'LL BE OWNED BY THE COUNTY.

YOU GUYS WILL OWN IT.

THE GRANT IS, IT'S NOT COFFIN COUNTY'S GRANT.

AND YOU'LL OWN ALL THE EQUIPMENT.

I MEAN, IT'LL BE ON YOUR SITE AND WE'LL, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GONNA BE PROVIDING THE, THE TECHNOLOGY TO MAKE IT ALL WORK.

AND I GUESS WORKING WITH THE CO-OP, THEY'LL BE OPERATING THE DAY-TODAY OPERATIONS AS, AND THAT'S HOW I UNDERSTAND IT FROM MY LAST CONVERSATION WITH MARILYN.

WE'LL WORK ON THE DETAILS.

LET'S JUST YEAH.

WELL WE HAVE, WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN TOGETHER WITH IAN MARILYN'S THE BASIC CONCEPT IS STILL THE SAME.

YES.

WE TALKED ABOUT, WHICH MADE A GREAT DEAL OF SENSE TO ME.

I, YES.

AND SO THIS, AND SO YEAH.

WE'RE, WE, WE'VE EVOLVED TO WHERE WE'RE APPLYING FOR A GRANT FOR THE NORTH TEXAS CAUSE TO GET FUNDING FOR THE, UH, FOR THE SITE ITSELF TO GET IT, TO GET IT BUILT OUT AND GET THE EQUIPMENT.

OKAY.

AND YOU'RE GONNA LOCATE THIS AT YOUR, SET YOUR NEW PROPERTY INTO THE NINE.

THAT'S OUR, THAT'S THE PLAN.

AND WE GET CITY INVOLVED RIGHT IN THAT WILL WE, WE'VE MET WITH THEM A COUPLE MONTHS AGO, BUT, UM, COMMISSIONER SHANE AND I, WE MET WITH HIM LAST WEEK AND DISCUSSED GETTING THEM ON BOARD WITH THAT PLAN.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

QUESTIONS? WE'VE HAD SEVERAL INTERESTING DISCUSSIONS.

A LOT DEALING WITH SOLID WASTE.

YEAH.

IT'S A BIG ISSUE.

ISSUE.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

UH, WE HAVE A MOTION TO, UH, CONSIDER APPROVAL OF, UH, ITEM NUMBER 15.

UH, COMMISSIONER SHANE MAKES THAT MOTION.

WE SECOND, SECOND ROSA SECOND.

ALL FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

THOSE POST ITEM NUMBER 16 IS TO DISCUSS, AND I, YOU DO HAVE A CORRECTION HERE.

DISCUSS, CONSIDER PRECINCT THREE.

IT SAYS FOUR, BUT THAT WAS A TYPO.

UH, PRECINCT THREE ROAD BRIDGE SELLING A DUR PATCHER POTHOLE REPAIR MACHINE TO HENDERSON COUNTY FOR SECTION 7 9, 1 OF THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE.

UH, GENTLEMEN, UH, COMMISSIONER STATE APPROACHED ME THAT HE HAS A DUR PATCHER IN HIS INVENTORY THAT HE IS, UH, HAS REQUESTED THAT, UH, WE DO INTER, INTER LOCAL WITH COUNTY TO PURCHASE THAT EQUIPMENT.

I THINK IT'S FOR $10,000.

RIGHT.

AND, UH, PER, UH, 7 9 1, THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE.

WE CAN DO THAT WITH, WITH THE COURT'S APPROVAL.

OKAY.

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QUESTIONS? UH, FOR ANYBODY? FROM ANYBODY? JACK, WHAT DID YOU NOT OFFER THIS TO THE OTHER PRECINCTS? WELL, , I JUST ASSUME SINCE, UH, YOU GUYS ALL WORK TOGETHER AND MEET EVERY DAY AND EVERY OTHER DAY, AND THAT THE LINE OF COMMUNICATION WAS OPEN, THAT BETWEEN Y'ALL, OF COURSE I'M BRINGING IT TO YOU TODAY ON MY END FOR, UH, THE KEY WORDS DISCUSSED AND CONSIDER, I GUESS TODAY WILL BE DISCUSSING AND CONSIDERING YEAH, THIS, I'D LIKE TO HAVE IT BECAUSE I, I'VE ACTUALLY, UH, GOT BOUGHT THAT FROM ELLIS COUNTY.

ELLIS COUNTY.

YEAH.

AND THEN, AND JAYZ I'S GONNA BUY EITHER ONE BUY IT, BUT I'D LIKE TO HAVE IT FOR THE $10,000.

PERSONALLY I TRANSFER OUT TO YOUR DEPARTMENT.

ABSOLUTELY.

TAKE, TAKE 10 GRAND OUTTA MINE BECAUSE IT'S, IT'D BE WORTH THAT.

AND I CAN HELP Y'ALL DO SOME THAT POTHOLE YOU BROKE DOWN.

THAT'S BETWEEN HIM AND INTEREST.

OKAY.

SO WE JUST NEED TO RATING, BUT I THOUGHT YOU BOUGHT A NEW ONE.

I DO HAVE A NEW ONE.

WELL, I DO WHEN I GOT ONE ABOUT FOUR OR FIVE YEARS OLD NOW, BUT, UH, YOU WANT TO KNOW YOU WANT TWO? YEAH.

ELLIS COUNTY'S GOT NINE OF THEM.

AND WHEN YOU FIX A POT ON EACH PAGE, WELL, I FIGURED YOU, I THOUGHT THE WAY YOU NO, IT WAS, IT WAS POSSIBLE JACK AS TRANSFER.

YOU CAN DO THAT.

YES SIR.

I RECOMMEND WE JUST TABLE THIS ALRIGHT.

THERE.

NO, OR ARE NO ACTION.

AND I'LL TRANSFER THAT.

YEAH.

WE'LL JUST SIMPLY NOT TAKE ANY ACTION ON ITEM 16.

UH, ITEM NUMBER 17 IS TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER PURCHASING A DUMP, DUMP TRUCKS FOR PRECINCT ONE AND THREE FROM EAST TEXAS MAG WITH THE REPURCHASE AGREEMENT.

BUT OBVIOUSLY GENTLEMEN, I BELIEVE, UH, PRECINCT FOUR HAS, I'M SORRY, PRECINCT THREE HAS FOUR DUMP TRUCKS AT THIS TIME.

AND PRECINCT ONE HAS TWO DUMP TRUCKS.

AND UH, UH, YOU MAY REMEMBER THAT BACK IN THE DAY, THESE TRUCKS WERE, UH, I GUESS WHEN THE OIL BITS WAS GOOD AND THE CONSTRUC BID WAS GOOD, THEY WHERE HE DID THESE TRUCKS ON A 12 MONTH, UH, LEASE WITH A BUYBACK AT THAT TIME.

AND I THINK THE BUYBACK WAS, UH, LESS THAN 9,000.

AND WHEN EVERYTHING SLOWED DOWN, THEY WOULD, UH, MAC HAD, THERE WAS NO, UH, DESIRE OR NEED FOR A LOT OF USED DUMP TRUCKS, UH, THAT WENT TO AN 18 MONTH WITH, WITH A, WITH A BUYBACK LESS 15,000.

THESE TRUCKS WERE DUE TO GO BACK SIX MONTHS FROM NOW AND WE WOULD'VE TO PAY 15,000 FOR TRUCK.

UH, THEY'VE OFFERED TO TAKE THESE TRUCKS BACK NOW AT 12 MONTHS AND ALL WE PAY IS 9,000.

SO NOW THAT, I GUESS NOW THE DEMAND FOR TRUCKS IS BACK OUT THERE, UH, MAC IS GOING BACK TO THE ORIGINAL 12 MONTH LEASE.

UH, THEY BUY BACK LESS THAN 9,000.

SO THE, UH, SIX TRUCKS ARE $120,112 A PIECE.

AND ONCE AGAIN, THAT'S UH, FOUR FOR PRECINCT THREE AND TWO PRECINCT ONE.

I GOT A QUESTION JACK ON THE 18 MONTH CONTRACT.

YES SIR.

IF I DID MY MATH CORRECTLY AND I UNDERSTOOD ALL THEIR, UH, DOCK FEES AND, AND DOT FEES AND STUFF, UH, IT LOOKS LIKE THEY WERE ACTUALLY COSTING US LIKE $873 A MONTH AND UNDER THIS NEW CONTRACT, IT'S GOING TO LOWER THE PRICE TO SEVEN 50 A MONTH.

SO WE, WE WERE ABOUT BACK IN THE DAY WAS RUNNING ABOUT 700 A MONTH WAS.

YEAH.

SO IF, IF THEY'RE, IF THEY'RE GOING TO TAKE THESE TRUCKS BACK AT 12 MONTHS INSTEAD OF 18, IS THAT GOING TO LOWER OUR PRICE FOR LOWER YOUR, THE TRUCKS WE CURRENTLY HAVE DOWN TO THIS $9,000 BUYBACK? OR ARE WE GOING BE BOUND BY THE NO PREVIOUS CONTRACT? NO, THE, THE, THE TRUCKS THAT KIRBY HAVE, THEY'RE AGREE.

THE BUY BACK, UH, UH, TRADE VALUE OF 107,000 FEES.

OKAY.

AND I THINK THEY WERE ABOUT 116.

RIGHT.

AND SO INSTEAD OF PAYING 9,000, UH, TO MAC TO GET NEW TRUCKS.

RIGHT.

OH, WELL 15 BACK, BACK UP.

7 15 9 AN HOUR.

YEAH.

SO IT WILL REDUCE YOUR COST FOR NOT VERY OFTEN THAT THE COSTS GO DOWN.

GREAT DEAL.

THAT'S $187 AND 50 CENTS A WEEK FOR A NEW TRUCK.

YOU KNOW, NO TIRE EXPENSE, NO MAINTENANCE.

THAT'S A SUPER DEAL.

CAN'T BUY A CAR FOR THAT.

YEAH.

OR I CAN'T.

YEAH.

HOW MANY MILES DO Y'ALL HAVE ON? I'VE GOT A LITTLE LESS THAN 25, 20 HERE I BELIEVE.

UH, COMMISSIONER SHANE HAS MADE A MOTION TO, UH, APPROVE ITEM NUMBER 17 AS, UH,

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DISCUSSED BY THE PERSON, AGENT SECOND TWO, UH, COMM ALRIGHTYY.

ITEM NUMBER 18 IS TO DISCUSS LINE ITEM TRANSFERS.

ALL RIGHTY.

I THINK KW EMAILED THESE TO Y'ALL.

DID YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON UH, YEAH, FIND IT FIRST.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

I HAVE A SIMPLE MIND.

SO WE, WELL LOST OUR CROWD.

, WE GET THE EXCITING STUFF THEY ALL ON LEAVE JAIL CONSTRUCTION.

INS MM-HMM .

THAT'S DEBT SERVICE PAYMENT.

CAN YOU TELL ME WHY THE 360 8 COMES OUT OF INTEREST CONSTRUCTION.

AND IT GOES TO INTEREST JAIL BECAUSE YOUR AUDITOR SCREWED UP IN THE BUDGET AND PUT THE WRONG NUMBER IN THE WRONG LINE.

I'M CLEANING IT UP SO I'M NOT CONFUSED.

NO TOO MUCH.

THAT'S PART OF THE REFUNDING ISSUE.

WHERE THIS IS HERE WE ONLY PAY INTEREST AND THAT'S HOW WE SAVE THAT MONEY FOR THE MISSION CRITICAL CENTER.

SO MONEY, RIGHT? YOU WANT ME TO WRITE IT REAL BIG FOR YOU? C OH STOP, STOP .

WAIT A MINUTE.

COULD YOU SAY THAT REAL LOUD? , WE HAD THE, WE HAD THE RIGHT AMOUNT BUDGETED.

I JUST HAD IT IN THE WRONG LINE ITEM AND OF COURSE KW HAD TO CATCH IT.

OKAY.

BETTER NOW THAN LATER THOUGH.

OH, YES.

UH, AND YOU UNDERSTAND THE TRANSPORTATION IN IMPROVEMENT PROJECT FUND, WHY? I HAD TO MOVE SOME MONEY, UH, TO COVER SOME, UM, LEGAL FEES ON GETTING THE RIGHT OF WAYS.

AND I DIDN'T HAVE ENOUGH IN THE MISCELLANEOUS.

I HAD TO TAKE IT AWAY FROM THE RIGHT OF WAYS.

WE DIDN'T BUDGET ENOUGH MONEY THAT PROBABLY COULD COME OUT OF THE UH, SO WHAT PART OF THE RIGHT AWAY, WHAT, WHICH WAS IT? WHAT WHAT RIGHT AWAY WAS IT? WAS IT THE HIGHWAY 34 BYPASS? YEAH, IT'S VERY EXTENSIVE.

30 SOMETHING THOUSAND DOLLARS.

YEAH, IT PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE BEEN PAID FOR OUT OF THE T UH, NOT THE TIF BUT THE, UH, CIVIL LOAN.

MM-HMM .

THAT WE HAD.

YEAH.

A MILLION DOLLARS THAT WE GOT FOR DRIVEWAY.

THAT IS IT.

YEAH.

THAT'S YOUR TRANSPORTATION IMPROVEMENT FUND.

OH YEAH.

NUMBER ONE .

WE SEE HE DIDN'T ASK THAT.

JUST LINE ITEM TRANSFER.

THIS IS THE LINE ITEM TRANSFER BECAUSE WE HAD JUST ESTIMATED ROUGHLY WHAT MISCELLANEOUS EXPENSES WE'D HAD JUDGE.

AND WE TOOK A BIG BUNDLE IN RIGHT OF WAY PURCHASES.

'CAUSE I DIDN'T KNOW EXACTLY HOW MUCH YOU NEEDED IN THAT.

THAT WAS JUST A KIND OF A GUESSTIMATE.

SO I'M JUST TAKING IT FROM ONE LINE ITEM AND PUTTING IT IN ANOTHER JUST TO COVER THAT BIG.

THAT'LL BE A COUPLE HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS TOTAL.

SO THIS WHERE WE ALLOWED FOR THAT IN THAT MILLION DOLLARS THAT I, I'M TOTALLY CONFUSED NOW.

OKAY.

SO THIS, THIS FUND ONE 18, UH, WHERE IT SAYS WE'RE INCREASING AT 37 630 MM-HMM .

THAT AND IT SAYS WE'RE INCREASING AT 35,000 TO 72,000.

YES SIR.

THAT IS WHAT WHAT FUND, WHAT, WHAT IS ONE THAT'S SIV MAJOR.

THAT'S PROBABLY A BILL TONER ADE.

YES.

THAT'S AN ARCADE BILL FOR THE RIGHT AND THEN THE RIGHT OF WAY PURCHASES WERE DECREASING BY THE SAME AMOUNT MM-HMM .

FROM 9 62.

AND THAT'S THE SAME UH, DEAL.

OKAY.

YES SIR.

AND YOU'RE FIXING SEE A BIG BILL FOR 34.

ITS 300 SOMETHING THOUSAND DOLLARS CALLED FOR THAT RIGHT WAY.

RAILROAD DRIVEWAY.

YES.

YEAH.

ROAD CHECKS TO THE RAILROAD AND I THINK THAT'S ABOUT IT.

I THINK WE'VE GOT A FEW OTHER LITTLE SMALL PARCELS.

YEAH, I DON'T IF THEY'VE ALREADY BEEN THROUGH THE, THEY'VE BEEN APPROVED.

DON'T, IF THEY'VE GONE THROUGH, UH, PROBABLY HADN'T COME TO OFFICE YET.

THE REQUEST FOR PAYMENT MAY NOT HAVE COME THROUGH THEIR PART AS YET.

OKAY.

BUT THEY BASICALLY THAT'S DOWN TO JUST A FEW EASEMENTS.

YEAH.

THE ONE THAT HASN'T BEEN MAILED TO YOU IS YOUR TRANSFER EVERYBODY THE BRIDGE, WHICH IS FOR THE MONTH OF FEBRUARY 1,000,007 WITH 448,800

[01:55:01]

GOING TO PRECINCT ONE AND 3 2290 9,200 TO PRECINCT TWO AND 503,200 TO PRECINCT FOUR.

AND THAT GETS YOU ALL YOUR TRANSFERS CAUGHT UP TO DATE.

IS THAT, WHAT'S THE BALANCE TO GO ON THAT DOES, DOES IS THAT ON THERE? UH, I MEAN IT HAS REMAIN BALANCE ON ALL OF THEM.

YEAH.

YOUR ENDING AMOUNT, YOUR YOUR BEGINNING MOUNT, WHAT WE HAVE TRANSFERRED AND WHAT'S LEFT AND LET YOU KNOW.

AND THEN THIS IS THE LINE ITEM TRANSFERS I NEED TO SIGN.

AND WE JUST WENT OVER SO I NOW HAVE ONE SIX.

NO, THAT'S WHAT YOU HAD.

NOVEMBER YOU GOT RIGHT NOW THIS IS TRANSFERS ISN'T THAT, I'M TRYING TO CONFUSE THIS.

SO GET HERE AND HELP THIS.

OH, THIS ENDING AMOUNT IS THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT'S LEFT BUDGETED.

NOT, NOT, THOSE AREN'T YOUR CASH AMOUNTS.

THOSE TWO, THOSE ARE THE AMOUNTS THAT IT'S LEFT BUDGETED THAT ARE SUPPOSED TO GET FROM THE WE HAVE NOT RECEIVED AS YET.

RIGHT.

YEAH.

RIGHT.

SO YOU GOT, WHEN IT'S ALL SAID AND DONE, IF EVERYTHING TURNS OUT LIKE IT'S SUPPOSED TO, YOU'LL HAVE AN ADDITIONAL 559 ADDED TO YOUR UH, IN ADDITION TO WHAT I HAVE NONE.

YEAH.

WHAT YOU GOT IN THAT.

THAT'S THE REMAINDER OF MY BUDGET.

RIGHT.

WE TRANSFER EVERY MONTH AFTER TREASURER GETS EVERYTHING POSTED.

OKAY.

YEAH.

AND I THINK JOHNNY WILL SOON TRANSFER THE 400,000, YOU KNOW, TO EACH PRECINCT FROM THE ROAD BOND STUFF TOO.

HE'S NOT MM-HMM.

HE WON'T DO IT UNTIL I GET IT SET UP WHERE HE CAN.

'CAUSE THAT'S GOING IN A WHOLE NEW FUND THAT AIN'T GOING SAYING WET GOT YEAH.

RIGHT.

AND WE READ OUR PART AND I TOLD JOHNNY THAT WE NEED TO MEET WITH THOSE PEOPLE THAT WANTED TO MEET WITH US.

YOU HAD SENT US THAT EMAIL AND JOHNNY WANTED TO BE INCLUDED IN IT AND HE HAS FOUR DIFFERENT PLACES.

I I GOT LOOKED AT IT.

LOOK AT YOUR, I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT HE ENSURES THAT MONEY AND THAT IT IS LEGAL INVESTMENT ACCORDING TO OUR INVESTMENT POLICY.

WE NEED TO AMEND THAT INVESTMENT POLICY TO COVER THAT.

WE NEED TO DO THAT.

SO THAT'S SOMETHING PROBABLY NEEDED TO WITH ANOTHER BANK I THINK WASN'T HE, HE SAID THERE WAS ONE OUTOF STATE PLACE THAT WAS TRYING TO GET HIM TO PUT SOME MONEY OVER THERE.

I THINK EDWARD JONES.

UM, THERE'S NO WAY AMERICAN NATIONAL CAN HANDLE THAT MONEY LIKE THAT FOR US AND UNTIL MAYBE THE MIDDLE OF THE SUMMER THEY MIGHT HAVE IT 'CAUSE OF PLEDGE OF COLLATERAL.

SO PROBABLY PUT SOME THE TEXT POOL.

AND THAT'S WHY I WANTED HIM INVOLVED IN THAT MEETING IS BECAUSE WE TALKED ABOUT JUDGE SCHEDULING THAT WE, IF Y'ALL KNOW WHAT YOU'RE GONNA DO IN THREE TO SIX MONTHS, WE HAVE THAT EASY ACCESS TO THAT MONEY TO TRANSFER REAL QUICK TO PAY THOSE BILLS UP.

THE GUY WE TALKED TO.

YES.

YES.

YOU WANNA DO THAT? UH, AS SOON AS Y'ALL WANNA DO IT.

SPEND CHUNK AS HOW DID YOU SPEND IT? MONEY.

ALRIGHT.

WE HAVE THE LINE OF TRANSFERS, UH, AS WELL AS THE TRANSFERS TO THE ROAD BRIDGE FUNDS.

I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THOSE ITEMS. , WE HAVE A, A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER MEETING.

DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND.

COMMISSIONER CLARK SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

A.

THOSE OPPOSED THAT ONE.

ONE.

THOSE AGAIN.

THOSE OPPOSED? THAT'S THE ONE SHE WANTS.

MM-HMM .

ALL RIGHT.

ITEM NUMBER 19 IS TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER, UH, A CLAIM FOR PAYMENT.

ALL RIGHT.

ALL THE BILLS ADD UP TO 703,000 BUCKS.

$703,081 AND 17 CENTS.

[02:00:02]

AND I'LL SPLIT THESE UP BETWEEN UNLESS YOU CHANGE SOMETHING WE BETTER WATCH HER BECAUSE SHE'S YEAH, SINCE SHE'S BEEN MAKING MISTAKES, HASN'T SHE BEEN MAKING MISTAKES AND MOVING MONEY AROUND? OKAY.

THEY CHECK THESE YELLOW.

THIS IS AT LEAST THEY'RE NOT, THERE WAS ONE THAT I SAW DISTRICT ATTORNEY THOUGH THAT WAS PRETTY GOOD.

REPAIR OUT THE JAIL INSURANCE.

GONNA PAY GOOD CHUNK OF THAT REPAIR JAIL.

AND THEY'RE ALSO GONNA GO BACK AND PAY FOR SOME REPAIR LY.

THE WHOLE, LIKE THE CONCRETE.

I THINK DAN BACK BACKER HAD TO DRILL SOME UH, I GUESS SEW PIPE OR WHATEVER THE CONCRETE REPAIR BY LARGE COME BACK DETERIORATION WHATEVER PORTION.

THIS TAKES A LITTLE TIME SHOWING.

OH YEAH.

YOU'LL BE A GOOD ONES IN YELLOW.

I WON'T QUESTION THAT ONE UNLESS I LET'S DON'T QUESTION YOUR WE BOUGHT SOMETHING.

I DIDN'T MILEAGE THE BOAT.

THE FIELD.

MA'AM.

Y'ALL WORKING PRETTY GOOD THERE BUDDY? YES SIR.

GOOD.

I THINK THAT GIVES Y'ALL A LITTLE SECURE FUEL THAT NOBODY'S A AND YOU GOT A $528 BOND PERIOD.

BORDERS SO MUCH.

SO MUCH.

A MONTH.

12.

I GAVE THAT LIST TO JACK MONTH.

HE MOW THAT OVER.

IS THAT OVER CORN? THAT ACRE AND STUFF.

WE GOT OVER THERE AND RUN THE COURTHOUSE.

WE CAN PROBABLY, WELL NO WE CAN, WE CAN PROBABLY BUY OR BUY A GRASSHOPPER FOR THAT MUCH MONEY.

I DON'T THINK SO.

COULD HAVE MY GUY HAUL IT BACK AND FORTH UP THERE AND DO IT.

I BROKE MY MOWER FROM THE HOUSE.

MY THAT'S AN INDIVIDUAL RIGHT? IT'S NOT RIGHT AWAY.

IT'S $19,000 SHIP IS WHAT PROPERTY WE BOUGHT OVER PRECINCT THREE.

YEAH.

YEAH, IT'S UNDER, YOU GOT CHARGE 'EM THE RIGHT OF WAY.

A 18.

OH YOU PROBABLY DON'T HAVE THAT DO YOU? A LOT OF THEM PAGES .

UNLESS YOU PRINTED IT OFF.

YEAH.

SOUNDS LIKE AN AIRPLANE.

THE RAILROAD COMPANY EXCEPT WHERE SOMETHING THAT WAS CONTINUOUS COUNTRY STOPS.

SO WHAT THEY GONNA DO WITH IT? THEY SURE MADE IT NOT THEM DO

[02:05:01]

THEY, THAT'S THE PRICE VALUE BUT THEY ADD 15% TO IT JUST BECAUSE THEY CAN'T.

SO THEY GOT THE PRICE VALUE.

15%.

WE NEED TOCO, THE RAILROAD.

WE'RE NOT GONNA LOAD ANYTHING ELSE ON THE RAILROAD IN COSTMAN COUNTY OR IN COSTMAN.

HOW MUCH WAS IT FOR 19,580? WHO IS IT TO YEAH, THAT'S PROPERTY MATERIAL.

YEAH.

NEEDS TO BE CHANGED.

THAT SHOULD BE UM, WE HAVE A LINE FOR REAL ESTATE.

OKAY.

THERE'S SOME WORK CAPITAL, BUT THIS WHERE WE PAID FOR IT FROM.

THERE'S A PLACE, THERE'S A SPOT RIGHT NOW.

THEY HAD MONEY UP THERE PIT, WE PAID GUYS $70, WHATEVER THEY TOLD US.

ANY DIFFERENT, THE COMPANY THAT DID THAT IS GONNA CHARGE US ABOUT $7,000.

PROBABLY THAT ONE PIECE OF PROPERTY.

YOUR CITY COUNCIL? YEAH.

IT CAME FROM THE COUNTY JUDGE'S OFFICE.

PARDON? IT CAME FROM YOUR OFFICE ABOUT THREE WITH THE OTHER RIGHT OF WAY.

SO WE DIDN'T KNOW IT WASN'T SUPPOSED TO BE COATED THERE.

NOBODY SAID ANYTHING.

ALRIGHT.

BUT WE CAN GET IT CHANGED.

YEAH, WE CAN GET IT CHANGED.

THAT'S NOT AN ISSUE.

THAT WAS FULL.

THOSE TWO LOTS WE BOUGHT OVER PRECINCT.

YES.

AND WHERE'S THIS WAS COME OUT OF? UH, WHERE DID IT PURCHASE? SUPPOSED PURCHASE A PROPERTY.

HMM, OKAY.

GENERAL FUND.

OKAY, SO WE NEED TO MAKE, NEED TO INITIAL THIS OR SOMETHING BEFORE WE SIGN IT.

YOU CAN, BUT I MEAN IT'S, I KNOW IT'S WEATHERFORD.

YEAH, PROBABLY FOR DOOR BOX OR DOOR.

THAT'S WHAT THEY DO.

YEAH.

OUT 5 65 61 COMING OUT JAIL.

YEAH.

THAT'S PAIRS IN THEIR PLACEMENTS ON THOSE LOCKS THAT THERE AT THE JAIL.

YEAH, THEY HAVE, THEY HAVE PRETTY GOOD QUALITY.

YEAH.

OKAY.

I HOPE SO.

DOUBLE CHECK.

TWO OR THREE PLACES.

HAVE YOU GOT A GOOD DERMATOLOGY? WELL GOOD.

I I'VE BEEN GOING TO THIS RU OVER, WHAT IS THAT? YEAH, BID 3,200 VA STILL AROUND THREE WEEKS BEHIND LUNCH BILL AT THE HOLIDAY AFTER FISHERMAN ONE.

THIS IS WHAT I'M ASSUMING THERE'S MORE THAN ONE.

ALL THESE DEALS ALL THE WAY BACK TO 13.

IS THAT THE CREDIT CARD PAYMENT? EPTEMBER 13.

THERE'S SOME ON NEXT IT'S TO HOLIDAY INN.

FISHERMAN'S WATERS $4,000.

GOOD.

GOES ALL BACK TO SEPTEMBER.

YOUR CHILD STRAIGHT UP.

OH THIS IS, UH, THIS IS COMMUNITY CORRECTION.

UH, THINK SHE'S THE ONE THAT DOES, UM, THE THE DRUG SCREENING THING.

EMPLOYEE DRUG SCREEN? NO, NO, NO, NO.

SHE'S PART OF THE ADULT PROBATION.

SHE'S PART OF ADULT PROBATION.

OH, OKAY.

WELL SHE'S HOLDING HER BILLS IS WHY I WAS ASKING, YOU KNOW, HOLD BACK, HOLD THAT STUFF ALL THE WAY BACK TO SEPTEMBER.

[02:10:09]

WELL WHAT IT IS IS THEY'RE DONE IN GROUPS.

SINCE THEY'RE ON A DIFFERENT FISCAL YEAR, IT DOESN'T AFFECT THEM.

LOOK AT WHAT, AND THIS REALLY DOESN'T AFFECT THE COUNTY AT ALL BECAUSE THAT'S THE STATE'S MONEY.

I JUST WONDERING WHY THEY'RE DRAGGING IT OUT.

I SEE THOSE DATES, YOU KNOW, BACK LAST YEAR.

I JUST STILL DRAGGING HARD ON YOU.

THAT'S WHAT I WAS NOT, IT IS SOME OF THE BIGGER DEPARTMENTS HOLDING ALL IT IS CONFIRMATION RESERVATIONS.

UH, YES.

THIS IS, UH, THE DA AND THE ASSISTANT DA GOING TO SAN FRANCISCO FOR A CONFERENCE.

IT REALLY HAS TO DO WITH STUDY TO, I GUESS FOR ADDITIONAL TRAINING INFORMATION.

SO THAT FISHERMAN WORK, THAT IS A PLACE TO STAY.

I MEAN THAT YES SIR.

CONFERENCE CENTER, UH, KING.

KING WITH A SUFFOLK BED NONS SMOKING.

AND ONE WAS FOR, THERE'S MORE THAN ONE.

OKAY.

MOFFITT.

SHE SAID THAT WAS THE ONLY PLACE IN THE COUNTRY THAT OFFERED THAT TRAINING.

BEFORE THE TRIAL WAS I OFF? YEAH.

THE TRIAL.

NOW.

THE EITHER ONE.

SHE SAID, YOU KNOW, WE GOT THREE COMING UP.

SHE SORRY ABOUT THAT.

YEAH, I DIDN'T THINK SHE WENT.

YEAH.

YEAH, BECAUSE THEY, THEY'RE THE ONES THAT WROTE THEM ON, ON RECORD.

OKAY.

UH, WHAT DID KEVIN SAY? WE NEEDED TO MEET, WE NEEDED TO ADD SOMETHING TO HIM, BUT YEAH, WE GOTTA HAVE THAT, UH, MR. PS AND THAT'S, THAT'S GOING TO BE ON THE ROADS THAT WHERE WE INCREASE THE, THE AMOUNT OF DAMAGE.

YEAH.

YOU WANT TO USE IT ON ONCE YOU INCREASE THE AMOUNT OF DAMAGE ON IT, DON'T, DON'T DO IT ON ONE.

IT HASN'T BEEN DAMAGED.

WELL IT COULD HAVE CHANGED.

YOU DON'T HAVE TO BECAUSE SAID YOU USED ON ANY ROAD YOU WANT TAKE.

YEAH.

LOOK BETTER IF YOU DAMAGE ROAD.

YEAH.

THAT'S PROBABLY ONE YOU NEED TO WORK MOST WORK ON.

ANYWAY.

I HOPE YOU'RE LOSING MY BILL LIST.

GETTING THEM ALL IN THE JUDGE'S FOLDER.

NOT MY FOLDER.

YOU, I ZIPPED UP.

YOU SEE HOW JIMMY JUST FOR THAT HIS ALL HIS LITTLE STACKS, HE TERMS OVER WHERE YOU CAN'T SEE HIS NOTES WHEN YOU DRAWING PICTURES AND STUFF.

DATE MY ANNIVERSARY OR MY WIFE'S ANNIVERSARY DAY? I GUESS YOU TOOK APPROPRIATE ACTION I GUESS.

HUH? YOU TOOK APPROPRIATE ACTION.

GONNA TAKE HER TO ONLY INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT MEETING TONIGHT, .

OH, SHE'S EXCITED ABOUT THAT.

OUR NEXT REGULAR COMMISSIONERS MEETING IS ON THE 10TH.

TOO LATE.

YEAH, WE HAVE TO HAVE THIS DOWN THERE TOO.

LIQUOR STAFF.

I MEAN TO, UH, ALLISON, WE PROBABLY NEED TO HAVE IT WITHIN SEVEN, TWO HOURS.

YEAH.

FRIDAY.

FRIDAY WE COULD, COULD EVERYBODY HAVE THEIR ROAD BY? OH YEAH.

I CAN'T DO THAT.

THAT LOOK LIKE I I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ON THE AGENDA FOR FRIDAY.

YOU MUST HIT THE WRONG BUTTON.

YEAH, NO, I WAS GONNA SAY THAT CAN'T BE RIGHT.

PROBABLY IN MARCH.

WE ONLY HIT, I DON'T HAVE ANY ON THIS FRIDAY AT ALL.

I'M, I'M IN GOOD SHAPE FRIDAY TOO.

YEAH.

EVERYBODY ELSE OKAY FOR FRIDAY? MM-HMM .

NINE, NINE O'CLOCK.

YEAH.

AND PROPERLY IN MY OFFICE PROBABLY JUST 'CAUSE THAT'D PROBABLY BE THE ONLY THING I,

[02:15:08]

YOU KNOW YOU HAVE SOMETHING THAT YOU PUT ON THERE? WHAT TIME? NINE O'CLOCK.

THAT WORK CARRYING THESE, UH, CAPITAL OUTLAY.

MM-HMM.

WHAT VEHICLES? WHAT DID THE VEHICLE GO? UH, LET'S SEE, I THINK THOSE TWO ARE THE, UM, TRUCKS.

ONE MINUTE.

YEAH.

F TWO 50.

YEAH.

THOSE ARE THE K NINE VEHICLES YOU APPROVED IN THE BUDGET.

I GOT ONE WAS 400 MORE THAN OTHER ONE.

JUST 'CAUSE WHAT? I DON'T KNOW.

THAT WOULD BE A EXACT QUESTION I GAVE YOU OF THE AMOUNT THAT HE COULD SPEND OUT.

I MEAN THEY'RE EXACTLY THE SAME AS BARN ORDER KIND OF A OH, IF YOU BOUGHT IT THROUGH THAT THING, ONE OF THEM DOES HAVE THAT EXTRA FEE ON THERE.

YEAH, THAT'D BE IT.

THE BUYBOARD FEE IS 400.

MM-HMM .

AND ONLY CHARGE YOU ONE TIME.

THEY HAVE F TWO 50 PICKUPS NOW, DON'T THEY? YEAH.

THESE WERE TWO REPLACEMENT VEHICLES.

YES SIR.

MAYBE WE CAN COMMANDER ONE OF THEM FOR PRECINCT ONE.

I DON'T THINK YOU NEED THE, HAVE YOU SEEN OUR TRUCKS? NO.

HAVE YOU BEEN ABLE TO GET UP MEETING SCHEDULED? SCHEDULED ONE, ONE PERSON.

HE RESPONDED.

Y ANSWERED ON NO, IT'S GONNA BE, THEY'RE MY END.

I'D LIKE TO GET TO DO THAT.

JUDGE, YOU NEED TO LOOK BECAUSE I'M MISSING ONE STACK.

I'M MISSING ONE WITH A TOTAL OF 23,000.

TWO 50 WE TWO.

I HAVEN'T GOT IT.

GOOD.

WE GOT ONE BIG ONE LEFT.

I HAVEN'T SEEN THE ONE FOR 23,000.

2 58 BECAUSE TO DIRECTLY, SORRY.

OKAY.

YOU GOT IT? YES.

OKAY.

NO, YOU GOT IT.

WE GOT IT COVERED.

EXCEPT FOR THIS ONE RIGHT HERE KIND OF IN, BUT I HAVE NO SIR.

I SAID WOULD YOU LOOK THROUGH YOUR STUFF TO SEE IF YOU HAVE IT? THAT'S THE WAY I DID.

NOT ME.

I KNEW YOU WAS RIGHT.

.

ALRIGHT.

YOU, YOU HAVEN'T SIGNED THIS ONE EITHER, SO CAN'T BLAME.

WELL, I, I COPIED 'EM ALL.

I'VE LOOKED AT IT.

I DO.

I DON'T COPY 'EM BUT I LOOK AT THEM.

I'M WAITING ON AN EMAIL FROM THE OUTSIDE BECAUSE JUDGE HAD ASKED ME.

OH, OKAY.

NOT JUST CHANGE THE OVER.

MM-HMM .

YEAH, WE THANK YOU SO MUCH.

DISCUSS, CONSIDER MOTION TO APPROVE.

I MAY MR. MANNY MAKES THAT MOTION TO HAVE A SECOND.

COMMISSIONER SHANE.

SECONDS.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

A.

THOSE OPPOSED ADJOURN REGULAR MEETING.

ADJOURN.

COMMISSIONER CLARK MAKES A MOTION.

COMMISSIONER MANNY, SECONDS.

ALL IN

[02:20:01]

FAVOR SAY AYE.

A OPPOSED? WE WILL HAVE A SPECIAL MEETING AT NINE O'CLOCK, UH, FRIDAY MORNING IN MY OFFICE.

WE'LL JUST MEET THERE AND THAT'LL PROBABLY BE THE ONLY THING WE HAVE ON THE AGENDA AND WE'LL HAVE TO GET THAT POSTED IN THE MORNING BEING BEFORE NINE.

SO IF YOU GOT ANYTHING THAT YOU JUST REALLY NEED TO ACT ON EVERYTHING SO WE CAN DO IT.