* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [00:00:05] YEAH. THINKING RIGHT NOW. YEAH. RIGHT NOW TO WELCOME YOU THIS MORNING TO, UH, THE MARCH THE 10TH, UH, MEETING OF THE COUNTY COMMISSIONER COURT. AND REGARDLESS OF WHAT THE CLOCK ON THE WALL IN THE BACK MEETING ROOM SAYS NINE 30, AND WE JUST HAVEN'T HAD A CHANCE TO GET THAT, UH, UH, TURNED AROUND YET, BUT WE'LL, LATER ON, I STARTED TO ASK STEVE TO STAND IN A CHAIR, BUT I'LL PUT A WORD ABOUT THE CHAIR. SO I DIDN'T WANT, WHOA. WE'LL, UH, CATCH THAT LATER ON, MAYBE WITH A LATER. UH, IF YOU ARE HERE TODAY, AND YOU WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE MEMBERS OF THE, UH, COURT IN THE OPENING SESSION, UH, AND WHERE IT HAS, UH, COMMENTS FROM, UH, VISITORS, UH, THAT'LL BE RIGHT AFTER OUR, UH, PRAYER AND OUR, UH, UH, ALLEGIANCES FLAGS. AND THERE'S A SIGN IN SHEET ON THE CORNER OVER THERE IF YOU'D LIKE TO DO THAT. UH, I KNOW SOME OF, UH, YOU'RE HERE TODAY IN REGARDS TO ITEM NUMBER THREE. AND, UH, WE'LL HAVE THAT AND, AND YOU'LL BE ABLE TO SPEAK DURING, DURING THAT PARTICULAR ITEM. SO IF YOU WOULD, UH, JOIN ME NOW IN STANDING, COMMISSIONER SHANE WILL GIVE OUR APPLICATION AND WE'LL HAVE I MOST GRACIOUS HEAVENLY FATHER, WE JUST COME TO YOU AND THANK YOU FOR OUR MANY BLESSINGS. WE THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR OUR FREEDOM THAT WE LIVE IN A FREE COUNTRY. WE ASK YOU TO BLESS OUR TROOPS THAT ARE IN HARM'S WAY. WE ASK YOU TODAY TO LOOK UPON US WITH FAVOR AS WE DO OUR COUNTY'S BUSINESS. WE ASK THAT YOU GIVE US GOOD JUDGMENT AND THAT WE DO WHAT WE GOOD AT YOUR SIDE, ALL THESE THINGS WE ASK YOUR SON'S NAME, AMEN. AMEN. ALLEGIANCE TO UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION OF THE GOD INDIVIDUAL WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE. ALL HONOR. HONOR THE ALLEGIANCE TO ONE HONOR GOD, ONE AN INDIVIDUAL. THANK YOU, JUDGE. OKAY. THANK YOU, SHERIFF. UH, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND MOVE RIGHT INTO THE, UH, CONSENT. WELL, FIRST, UH, WE DO HAVE SOME ROUTINE CORRESPONDENCE, UH, THAT, UH, JEFF, UH, BROWN PREPARED FOR US ON THE JP COLLECTIONS. AND, UH, I WOULD, UH, ASK YOU TO, UH, PAY SPECIAL ATTENTION TO THAT. IT LOOKS LIKE ACROSS THE BOARD, OUR COLLECTIONS OF THEM PRETTY DRAMATICALLY. AND, UH, SO FOR THE FIRST, UH, FOUR MONTHS OF THE BUDGET YEAR. SO WE, UH, ARE GONNA NEED TO KEEP AN EYE ON THAT. AND, UH, AND I'LL PROBABLY SET UP A MEETING WITH THE, UH, JPS AS WELL AS THE, UH, TWO ATTORNEY FIRMS THAT WE HAVE WORKING ON THIS, AND ALSO KIND OF FIGURE OUT WHAT'S, WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THAT. THAT'S A PRETTY DRAMATIC, UH, DROP. SO WE'LL, UH, WE'LL, WE'LL NEED TO BE AWARE OF IT. ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT ANY OF THAT? THINK WHAT I LOOKED AT IS THAT THE CASES FALL RIGHT ALONG WITH THAT DECREASE IN THE NUMBER COLLECTIONS. YEAH, IT'S 20% DECREASE. AND I MEAN, THAT MAY, WELL, WE STILL HAVE A NUMBER OF OUTSTANDING CASES, YOU KNOW, THAT HAVE NOT BEEN, UH, I MEAN, WHERE THEY, WHERE THEY'VE GONE THROUGH THE SYSTEM HASN'T BEEN COLLECTED. SO WE'LL NEED TO CHECK ON THAT AS WELL, LIKE JP UP OVER JANUARY A YEAR AGO. SO, LIKE, THE ONLY GOOD NEWS JANUARY YEAR, ALL YOU HAVE A COPY OF THE, UH, MINUTES AND THE CONSENT AGENDA FOR FEBRUARY THE 24TH AND 28TH. UH, THAT'S PRESENTED BY OUR COUNTY CLERK FOR ACCEPTANCE. WE HAVE A, UH, A RESOLUTION THAT I WILL NOT READ, BUT I'LL POST IT. AND THIS WAS REQUESTED BY THE NORTH TEXAS POISON CENTER AS, UH, ENCOURAGING PEOPLE, UH, TO REMEMBER POISON PREVENTION WEEKS, WHICH IS MARCH 16TH THROUGH [00:05:01] THE 22ND, 2014. I WILL SIGN THAT AGENDA AND WE GET IT OUT TO THAT RESOLUTION. WE'LL GET IT OUT TO THE, UH, MEDIA AND POSTED AS WELL. AND THEN WE HAVE AN ITEM TO, UH, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER APPROVAL OF OUR VIEWS, OUR ANNUAL VIEWS TO THE COUNTY JUDGES AND COMMISSIONER ASSOCIATION OF TEXAS. ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT? ANY OF A MOTION TO, UH, APPROVE AS PRESENTED? A SO MAY 2ND. COMMISSIONER MANNING MAKES THAT MOTION. COMMISSIONER SHANE A SECOND. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. THOSE OPPOSED? ALRIGHT. MOTION CARRIED. ITEM NUMBER I NEED TO THE, UH, TANYA, ARE YOU HERE? UH, MS. RADCLIFF HAD ASKED THAT WE MOVE HER UP ON THE AGENDA. SHE'S GOT A, A MEETING SHE NEEDS TO ATTEND. SO IF YOU'LL GO TO ITEM NUMBER NINE, UH, THE TAX SESSION REPORT AND UPON, WE'LL LET YOU DO THAT. GOOD MORNING, GENTLEMEN. THE COLLECTIONS FOR THE MONTH OF FEBRUARY WERE 26,420,000 AND $171 FOR A TOTAL OF 92 POINT 59% FOR COUNTY TAXES FOR ROAD AND BRIDGE. OUR COLLECTIONS YEAR TO DATE ARE FOUR THOUSAND FOUR MILLION TWENTY TWO THOUSAND FIVE HUNDRED EIGHTY THREE DOLLARS FOR A COLLECTION RATE OF 92.67%. SO IT'S JUST A TINY BIT HIGHER ON THE ROAD BRIDGE THAN ON THE REGULAR COUNTY TAXES. NOW, I WANTED TO MENTION SOMETHING TO YOU THOUGH, 'CAUSE THE LAST MONTH WE TALKED ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WE'VE ADDED THE, UH, ROLLBACK TAXES. LAST MONTH WE HAD ABOUT 26,000 IN ROLLBACK TAXES. AND YOU HAD THE QUESTION ABOUT HOW MANY PROPERTIES THAT WAS FOR. THAT WAS ACTUALLY FOR SEVEN PROPERTIES. THIS MONTH WE HAVE ROLLBACK TAXES IN THE AMOUNT OF 108,000, AND THAT'S FOR ONE PIECE OF PROPERTY. IT'S 145 ACRE TRACK FOR THE HEARTLAND. SO THOSE, UH, ARE THOSE ROAD BACK TAXES DISTRIBUTED JUST TO THE JIM FUND OR DO THE ROAD BRIDGE FUND? ARE THEY, ARE THEY ALSO, THEY'RE THEY'RE EQUALLY DISTRIBUTED TO EVERYBODY THAT IS ENTITLED. OKAY. SO I DON'T SEE ANYTHING HERE ON THE ROAD BRIDGE FUND FOR ROLLBACK TAXES. I GUESS THAT WAS MY, UH, JUST COLLECTED IT. WE HAVEN'T DISTRIBUTED IT PROBABLY. OKAY. ALRIGHT. SO THAT, THAT WOULD ONLY, WOULD YOU REPEAT THE FIGURES ON THE HARLAND ROBERT? UH, THE $108,242 THAT SIGNED THE ROLLBACK TAXES COLLECTED ON YOUR SHEET, THAT IS FOR 145.396 ACRES AND THE HW HARLAND THAT'S NOW BEING USED FOR RESIDENTIAL PURPOSES RATHER THAN AG, AG PURPOSES. EXACTLY RIGHT. AND AS YOU CAN SEE, WE STILL CONTINUE TO COLLECT, UH, DELINQUENT TAXES. CORRECT. THE HUNDRED DOLLARS, THE COUNTY'S PORTION OR THAT EVERYBODY'S TAXES, EVERYBODY. WELL, THAT'S THE COUNTY PORTION. SORRY, RIGHT HERE. HOW MUCH WAS EVERY, MUCH WAS FOR HERE, HERE, UM, BECAUSE THAT INCLUDES STOCK COUNTY, , TRINITY, SDS, AND THE WAY IT'S BROKEN DOWN, I DON'T HAVE, I DON'T HAVE THAT EXACTLY. I CAN GET IT FOR YOU THOUGH, IF YOU'D LIKE TO KNOW. YEAH, I JUST GUESSING THAT EIGHT MIGHT BE EVERYBODY'S TAXES BECAUSE OTHERWISE IT'D BE PROBABLY CLOSE TO THREE FIVE. WELL, ANYWAYS, HAVE YOU VERIFIED THAT EARLIER? I MEAN, I HOPE THAT'S WHAT, YEAH, THAT'S WHAT THIS IS SUPPOSED TO BE. OKAY. SO I'LL DOUBLE CHECK THAT FOR YOU THOUGH. OTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY. UH, I HAVE A MOTION TO ACCEPT HER, HER REPORT FOR THE MONTH OF FEBRUARY, 2014. ACCEPT MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER SHANE, A SECOND COMMISSIONER. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR, SAY THOSE OPPOSED. THANK YOU. NEXT ITEM IS ITEM NUMBER THREE TO DISCUSS AND REVIEW PROPOSED IMPROVEMENTS SLATED FOR KAUFMAN COUNTY ROAD 3 46 FROM FARMER MARKET ROAD 27 28, ANCE COUNTY, UH, ROAD 38 0 5, INCLUDING ENFORCEMENT RELATED ISSUES. COMMISSIONER CLARK COULD ASK IF THIS BE PLACED ON EACH OTHER. UH, YES, SIR. UH, I GUESS LET MR TO COME UP HERE TO ANSWER THE QUESTION. JOE, IF [00:10:01] YOU'D LIKE TO COME UP TO THE MICROPHONE HERE, PLEASE, SIR, I APPRECIATE YOUR CHANCE TO BE HERE. UH, I THINK, UH, I MAY BE THE ONLY ONE HERE TO TALK ABOUT THAT, AND THAT'S ALRIGHT TOO. UH, I WANT TO KNOW, UH, WHAT THE COUNTY INTENDS TO DO WITH, WITH, UH, 3 46. 3 46, THE CEDAR GROVE ROAD. YES. OKAY. UH, WE WERE APPROACHED SOME MONTHS AGO BY THE, UH, TEXTILE, BY THE DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION, UH, TO IMPROVE, UH, COUNTY ROAD 3 46 DUE TO A ROCK CRUSHER THAT WILL SOON BE CONSTRUCTED ON 3 46, UH, ABOUT 3.6 MILES EAST OF WHERE INTERSECTS WITH WEST. I KNOW WHERE THAT PRESSURE'S GOING BE. I'M PRETTY SURE YOU DO. NOW, YOU RIGHT ACROSS FROM YOUR PLACE, AND I BEEN OUT THERE SEVERAL TIMES OVER THE YEARS AND DECADES, UH, AS WELL, EXACTLY WHERE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, UH, WITH THE IDEA THAT THIS CRUSHER WILL BE UP AND OPERATING AT SOME TIME. IT HAS ALREADY BEEN, UH, PERMITTED BY THE TCEQ. UH, THERE WAS A HEARING IN AUSTIN SOME YEARS AGO, THE PERMIT HAS BEEN ISSUED BY TCEQ. SO THE IDEA IS, IS TO IMPROVE 3 46 FROM 27 28 ALL THE WAY TO, UH, AMP COUNTY ROAD 38 0 5. IT WOULD STOP THERE. AND THE IMPROVEMENTS WILL BE A JOINT PROJECT BETWEEN, UH, TDOT WHO WILL PROVIDE THE ENGINEERING AND THE SURVEY WORK. YOU'VE PROBABLY SEEN THE SURVEY FOLKS. YEAH. THAT'S WHAT CALLING OUR ATTENTION TO WHAT'S HAPPENING ON. OKAY. UH, THEY WILL BE THERE. THEY WILL BE PROVIDING THE ENGINEERING WORK, UH, TRINITY MATERIALS WHO WILL OPERATE THE CRUSHER, UH, WILL PROVIDE MATERIALS FOR, UH, UPGRADING THAT ROAD, UH, MAKING IT, UH, TRUCK. UH, I HAVE THE AVAILABILITY TO HANDLE THE HEAVY TRUCKS. UH, COMMISSIONER SHANE WILL PROVIDE THE LABOR TO, UH, BILL ROAD. AND SO IT'S A PARTNERSHIP. WE'VE NOT AGREED, I MEAN, WE'VE NOT SIGNED ANYTHING, UH, AT THIS POINT, BUT I EXPECT AT SOME POINT IN TIME WE'LL BE LOOKING AT THAT PRETTY SOON. BUT IT'LL BE A PARTNERSHIP BETWEEN TXDOT, UH, TRINITY MATERIALS AND KAMAN COUNTY. NOW, I'M AWARE, JOE, THAT PEOPLE DON'T LIKE ROCK CRUSHERS. I, I, MY PLACE IS TWO MILES FROM HERE AND, UH, I'M GETTING ON UP IN AGE. AND I CAN REMEMBER AS A KID WHENEVER THE ROCK CRUSHERS WERE THERE 50 YEARS AGO, AND I'M SURE YOU REMEMBER THIS AS WELL. MM-HMM . UH, I THOUGHT IT WAS FUN WHENEVER THEY DYNAMITE BECAUSE IT WAS A BIG DEAL. YOU KNOW, WE COULD BE DOWN THERE WHEN I WAS AT THE FARM AND PLAYING AROUND. IT WAS KIND OF FUNNY, BUT THERE WASN'T NEAR AS MANY PEOPLE IN THE AREA. SO THEN, AND UH, WHEN I SAY FUN, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, IT'S KIND OF LIKE FIREWORKS, ALL THAT. UH, SO TIMES HAVE CHANGED, AND I UNDERSTAND WE ALL UNDERSTAND THAT THERE ARE MORE PEOPLE IN THE AREA. NOBODY WANTS TO BE NEXT DOOR TO A ROCK PIT. I UNDERSTAND THAT TO A ROCK CRUSHER. UH, BUT WE CANNOT, WE DO, WE HAVE NO CONTROL OVER A ROCK CRUSHER. WE, WE DO NOT PERMIT THAT THAT IS DONE BY THE STATE OF TEXAS. IT'S LET'S LIKE A GUN RANGE. WE DO NOT HAVE THE ABILITY TO REGULATE A GUN RANGE. UH, THERE ARE A NUMBER OF THINGS BY LAW THAT WE ARE NOT AUTHORIZED TO DO, AND THAT'S ONE OF THEM. AND THOSE, THEY, PARTICULARLY THE, UH, THE ROCK TRUCKS GO THROUGH THE TCEQ, WE DO HAVE THE, THE ABILITY TO IMPROVE THE ROAD. AND SO THAT WILL BE, THAT'S WHAT THIS PARTNERSHIP WILL DO. IT WILL LEAD TO A BETTER CONSTRUCTION ROAD. IT WILL ELIMINATE THE DUST THAT IS THERE. IT WILL BE A WELL CONSTRUCTED ROAD. UH, AND, UH, IT'S OUR INTENTION THAT, UH, IT'LL BE BETTER FOR THE NATIVE FOLKS THAT LIVE THERE. I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND THAT. PEOPLE DON'T WANT GRAVEL TRUCKS RUNNING UP AND DOWN THEIR ROAD. I UNDERSTAND THAT. UH, BUT THIS WILL BE A BETTER ROAD AND IT WILL BE A DUST FREE ROAD THAN WE'VE HAD. WE DO NOT, UH, WE DO HAVE THE AUTHORITY, AND I THINK YOU'RE AWARE OF THIS WHEN WE DISCUSSED THIS BEFORE, WE DO HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO PUT UP SIGNS, MEANING NO THROUGH TRAFFIC. AND THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE IN PLACE. AND THAT SIMPLY MEANS THAT A TRUCK CANNOT, UH, GO INTO THE PIT AND TURN [00:15:01] RIGHT, SO TO SPEAK, OR GO, GO EAST AND COME OUT ON HIGHWAY 80. WE CAN PERMIT BY SIGNAGE NO, THROUGH TRUCKS. BUT THAT SIMPLY MEANS IS, IS THAT THE TRUCKS CAN GO TO THE, THE CRUSHER, LOAD THEIR MATERIAL AND GO BACK THE WAY THEY CAME IN. THAT'S WHAT A KNOW THROUGH TRUCK WOULD, WOULD BE. 3 46. YEAH, 3 46 BACK TO, UH, 27, 28. SO I WAS OF THE IMPRESSION THAT, UH, THE COMMISSIONERS COULD, UH, REGULATE TRAFFIC ON THE COUNTY ROAD FIRST. THEY HAVE CONTROL OF IT. WE CAN, BUT WE CANNOT CLOSE A PUBLIC ROAD TO, UH, PEOPLE AS A PUBLIC ROAD, JUST LIKE ANY PUBLIC ROAD. WE CAN REGULATE THE SPEED LIMIT. WE CAN REGULATE WHETHER THEY CAN GO ALL THE WAY THROUGH WITH, THROUGH TRAFFIC, BY HAVING NO THROUGH SIGNS UP, WHICH WE HAVE. BUT WE CANNOT HEAT A TRUCK FROM GOING INTO A ROCK PIT AND LOADING MATERIAL AND, UH, AND NOT USING THE COUNTY ROAD. IT'S A PUBLIC ROAD. UH, I WON'T QUOTE THE ONLY JUDGE I EVER KNEW. HE SAID IT IS A, IT'S A SAFETY ISSUE. YOU DON'T HAVE, UH, LIKE, UH, WHENEVER YOU AND I LIKE TO HAVE THE ROCK PIT, BUT NOW WE'VE GOT MORE PEOPLE. YOU SAID THAT. BUT THIS PARTICULAR SITE, UH, HAS BEEN ATTEMPTED TO MINE. THIS WILL BE THE FOURTH TIME. AND, UH, WE ACTUALLY SHUT IT DOWN. THEY INTENDED TO ALREADY BE OVER HERE OPERATING, AND WE GOT THE, EXAMINING THE SAFETY ISSUES AND THE PROBLEMS CULTIVATED THE COST. UH, THEY'RE, THEY'RE TERRIBLE NEIGHBORS. UH, THEY DON'T OBEY THE LAW. AND, UH, THEY, THEY BLAME EVERY TIME YOU COMPLAIN TO TCEQ. THEY TELL ME IT IS A COUNTY ISSUE AND THEY GIMME YOUR PHONE NUMBER. I'M AWARE OF IT. I GET THOSE CALLS. THE EPA, THEY GIVE YOU TCE Q'S PHONE NUMBER, AND THERE ARE MANY VIOLATIONS CURRENTLY OVER THERE ON 3 48. THEN YOU GET ON UP HERE TO THE RAILROAD AND, UH, THEY'VE BEEN, UH, VIOLATING THAT LAW, UH, EVER SINCE THERE'S BEEN A CRUSHER OUT THERE USING 3 48 AND THE EPA, UH, I'VE BEEN IN CORRESPONDENCE, UH, SINCE, UH, YEAR 2000 WITH THEM. AND, UH, I GOT A LETTER FROM, UH, CONGRESSMAN HENLINE, YOU, YOU DON'T HAVE IT IN YOUR PACKET. AND, UH, COMPLAINING. I ASKING HIM ON MY BEHALF, BEHALF BEHALF THE COMMUNITY. AND, UH, HE, UH, CONTACTED THE EPA AND HE GOT A LETTER BACK FROM 'EM THAT SAID THERE'D BEEN THREE ON SITE, UH, INVESTIGATIONS. IT'S EPAS, UH, RESPONSIBILITY TO HAVE WHAT'S CALLED, UH, MONITORING AND ENFORCEMENT SHOULD MONITOR, SEE IF EVERYTHING'S GOING ALL RIGHT, AT LEAST ONCE AGAIN. AND IF IT'S NOT ENFORCE RULES. BUT THERE'S BEEN THREE ON SITE INVESTIGATIONS TO CONDUCTED AT WILLS POINT. CEDAR PROBE, UH, IS CALLED, THEY CALL IT THE NORTH CRUSHER PERMIT 9 1 1 50. AND THAT'S THE CRUSHER THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. YEAH. AND, UH, THERE'S BEEN THREE ON SITE INVESTIGATIONS AND TWO, UH, I'M SORRY, THREE ON SITE INVESTIGATIONS HAVE BEEN CONDUCTED AS WELL AS TWO OFFSITE COMPLIANCE INVESTIGATION. THERE'S NOT EVEN A PRESSURE OUT THERE, HAVEN'T THEY INVESTIGATE. BUT THE EPA, YOU CAN SEE HOW, UH, THEY STAND WITH US TELLING US THEY'VE DONE THIS. YOU CAN'T INVESTIGATE A PROPER CLUSTER SIZE AND TRAFFIC ON THE SITE WHEN THERE'S NOT EVEN A SITE. SO THAT'S WHAT WE FACE. THAT'S ALL WE HEAR. WE HEAR ABOUT THESE RULES AND NOTHING HAPPENS. AND, UH, I'M NOT COMPLAINING ABOUT THE COUNTY'S, UH, ABILITY OR THEIR INTENT BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN THROUGH THIS ONCE AND WE THOUGHT IT WAS SETTLED. ALL THIS STUFF THAT I, I SENT UP HERE FOR Y'ALL TO LOOK AT. I I'M NOT GOING TO GO THROUGH ALL THIS. YOU KNOW, WE'VE ALREADY DONE THAT AND DECIDED THAT WE DIDN'T NEED THAT CRUSHER, ESPECIALLY, UH, SINCE THE THIRD ATTEMPT TO, UH, MINE THAT SITE, WE, WE MANAGED TO GET THE EPA TO INVESTIGATE IT. AND, UH, THEY FOUND MULTIPLE VIOLATIONS AND, UH, [00:20:02] THAT, THAT ATTEMPT WAS CALLED SOUTHERN STATES. AND THEY LEFT DURING THE NIGHT, BY THE WAY. AND AT THAT TIME, THEIR PRESSURE WAS 125 TONS AN HOUR WHEN YOU GOT, UH, OVER 500 TONS AN HOUR COMING AT YOU NOW. AND THAT'S GOING TO BE, UH, THEY'RE GONNA STAY THERE 20 YEARS BECAUSE APPRAISAL IS, UH, 25, 20 MILLION TONS OF ROCKS AT THE SITE, SPAC. AND THEY'RE NOT GOING TO KEEP THE ROAD UP. YOU GOT SOME PICTURES OF, UH, ROAD, UH, ROAD THREE 14 DOWN THERE. THAT'S THE ONE THEY'RE USING NOW. THEY WOULDN'T USE THREE 17. THE, THE COMMISSIONER, UH, I THINK COMMISSIONER CHAIN ASKED HIM TO USE THREE 17 AT ONE TIME INSTEAD OF THREE 14. THEY WOULDN'T DO THAT. UH, TRINITY'S IS A BAD NEIGHBOR. AND YOU CAN LOOK AT THE PICTURES. THE ONLY THING THAT'S GOING TO BE GOOD FOR YOU IS YOU CAN SEE, UH, WHAT THE ROAD LOOKS LIKE. THAT'S A VIOLATION. JUST LOOK AT THAT PICTURE. IT'S A VIOLATION OF THC 1, 0 1 0.4 AND 0.5 THAT'S CAUSING, UH, UH, THE DIRT THAT THEY TRACK OUT ON 80 PEOPLE. THE DIRT HITS THE WINDSHIELD. IT'S A CRAPPY HAZARD. THAT'S A VIOLATION. NOW, THE SHERIFF CAN'T ENFORCE THAT THERE, THERE'S NOT ANY, UH, SIGNS THERE THAT ON THREE, ON THREE 14 THAT TELLS 'EM NO THROUGH TRUCK TRAFFIC. AND NOW I UNDERSTAND THE SIGNS NOT ANY GOOD. UH, YOU KNOW, IF, IF YOU, WHY IS THE SIGN NOT ANY GOOD? WELL, IT IS NOT STOPPING THEM. SO YOU'RE SAYING THEY'RE LOAD NOW THE THREE 14 RIGHT NOW THEY GOT TWO MORE OUTLETS OFF THAT SIGN. THEY CAN GO OUT AT THE RANCH HOUSE ON 80, OR THEY CAN GO OUT UP THERE BY SHADOW LAKES. THOSE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE UPSET WHENEVER THERE'S ANOTHER PERMIT OUT THERE. IT'S A 54,000 NUMBER. SO AT ONE TIME THERE WAS THREE PERMITS. I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY CRUSHERS THEY HAD. 'CAUSE ONCE WE SETTLED AREA THAT WAS, UH, CAUSING HARDSHIPS TO MY FAMILY, YOU KNOW, I KIND OF GOT LOOSE FROM IT AND LET SOMEBODY ELSE, YOU KNOW, I NEED A LITTLE HELP. THERE'S NOT A WHOLE LOT OF ACTIVITY HERE ON THIS, BUT, UH, THESE VIOLATIONS, AND I, I'VE HAD EXPERIENCE WITH THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT. I'VE HAD THE, UH, THE, UH, CONSTABLE, YOU KNOW, CALL WHEN THERE'S, UH, SOMETHING THAT I CAN CALL, UH, THEIR ATTENTION TO AND THEY'RE NOT DOING. YOU ASK THE HELP, YOU'LL GET IT IF YOU CALL, BUT THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT CAN'T ENFORCE NO THROUGH TRUCK. UH, APPARENTLY. AND AGAIN, I'M NOT TRYING TO BE AS SMART AT IT, BUT I'M, I'M SAID THAT WRONG. SMART AS THAT'S THE WORD. BUT, UH, YOU KNOW, WE, IF CULVERT'S GONE, THE WATER, WASHINGTON CALLED IT OUT, WE TELL THE COUNTY THAT THE COVER'S GONE. WE DON'T TELL YOU HOW TO FIX IT. AND WE CAME HERE AND SPENT, UH, LOTS OF TIME AND LOTS OF EFFORT TO TELL YOU THAT IT'S A SAFETY ISSUE ON OUR ROADS. THEY'RE TAKING OVER OUR ROADS. WE HAVE TO LEAVE THE ROAD WHEN THE COOKS COME. I DON'T KNOW. I I THINK I, I, I HEARD, AND THE ONLY THING I HAVEN'T, UH, THIS BEING THE FIRST THING THAT'S CONCRETE THAT I'M HEARING, AND I HEARD THE ROAD'S GOING TO BE 12 FOOT WIDE. NOW, I DON'T WANT SEE THE MATHEMATICIAN THAT'S GOING TO RUN TWO EIGHT FOOT TRUCKS DOWN THAT 12 FOOT ROAD. I'M NOT SURE WHERE YOU HEARD THAT FROM. THAT'S NOT CORRECT. THAT'S NOT CORRECT. BE A 25 FOOT AND SIGN OUT THERE. MOST THE HAVE 58,000, UH, TONS ON, ON THE ROAD BED AND, AND, UH, I THINK MOST OF THE ROCK S TRUCKS WERE WELL IN EIGHT. YEAH, I'M NOT SURE. WELL, THEY HAVE THIS THING CALLED OVERWEIGHT PERMITS THAT THEY GET FROM THE, UH, T AND SOMEBODY WILL BE CHECKING THAT OUT. SO YOU GOTTA PUT THE LOAD ON THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT. THEY GET GIVING HIM ALL THIS, UH, WORK. RIGHT. AND RIGHT NOW THIS NEEDS TO BE, UH, ENFORCED. BUT, UH, NOBODY ENFORCES THOSE KIND OF RULES. THAT'S THE WAY THEY GET AWAY WITH THIS. AND THE VIOLATION OF ALL THE RULES. SO THREE EIGHT, UH, THREE 14, THEY'RE DRIVING OFF THE PAYMENT. THAT'S A VIOLATION. THERE'S JUST NO END OF THE VIOLATIONS. AND I DON'T SEE HOW THEY GOT A PERMIT WITHOUT DOING CANCER RESEARCH. THAT, THAT VERY SITE, I'M STANDING IN MY FRONT YARD. [00:25:01] MY SON LIVES THERE NOW. AND I CAN THROW A ROCK AND HIT TWO HOUSES WHERE THERE'S TWO CANCER PATIENTS AND ONE OF 'EM, AND ONE CANCER PATIENT AND THE OTHER, AND THERE'S PROBABLY ABOUT 10 CANCER PATIENTS. AND, UH, THE PERMIT IS, IS NOT WHAT KAUFMAN COUNTY WANTS, WHERE PEOPLE LIVE. UH, I'M GONNA SAY THERE'S A DOZEN CANCER PATIENTS, RIGHT, RIGHT IN THAT IMMEDIATE AREA. AND THAT'S FROM TRUCK OZONE. AND, UH, THE PARTIC MATERIAL PRIMARILY COMES FROM THE SITE WHERE THE PRESSURE AND STOCKPILES ARE. AND THERE'S, THEY NEED TO DO SOME RESEARCH ON THAT. I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT PERMIT AT THIS MOMENT IS ACTIVE. AND IF IT IS NOT, IT IS GOING TO GET THE OPPORTUNITY TO TELL US, UH, WHY THEY SHOULD HAVE IT. AND, UH, THAT THEY'RE OBEYING THE RULES. TALKING ABOUT FOR THE PROPOSED PRESSURE ON 3 46. WELL, YEAH, THAT, SEE THAT PERMIT, UH, THEY SHOULD HAVE RENEWED IT. UH, THAT'S WHY ALL THIS IS COMING UP THAT PERMIT'S, UH, APPLICATION'S THREE YEARS OLD. I'VE SEEN A HALF DOZEN PERMIT APPLICATIONS AND THEY USUALLY GOT 15, 16 PAGES AND TO KEEP US FROM BEING ABLE TO FIND THEM, THIS LAST PERMIT APPLICATION HAD 179 PAGES. THAT DAMN THING WAS THAT DECK. AND I GO DOWN THERE WITH A POT POT FULL OF MONEY, YOU GOING TO PAY THIS LITTLE GIRL TO MAKE COPIES FOR YOU? AND SHE SAID, I AIN'T GOING TO DO THAT. SO YOU COULDN'T EVEN GET A COPY OF IT. I QUESTION THAT YOU SHOULD ABLE, WELL, I DIDN'T EXPECT IT TO, BUT WE DID ALL THAT PAPERWORK AND, UH, AND THEY JUST ISSUED THE PERMIT. AND WE SAY LIKE A BLACKJACK DEALER, YOU WANT ONE, YOU WANT WHAT? YOU JUST GET ONE. ALL YOU GOTTA DO IS SAY YOU WANT IT. SO THAT'S THE KIND OF NEIGHBOR YOU'RE GIVING US. AND WE DON'T LIKE THAT. I DID TELL YOU THAT, UH, OPACITY ON THAT OLD ONE WITH 120 TON AN HOUR CRUSH. THAT'S HOW THICK THE AIR IS WITH, UH, DIESEL EXHAUST AND DIRT AND EVERYTHING. THE EPA MEASURED IT AT 80%. AND I'VE BEEN IN THAT. IT COMES DOWN TO MY HOUSE, GETS IN MY HOUSE. AND, UM, I DIDN'T HAVE ANY, UH, CANCER IN, IN MY HOUSE AT THAT TIME. BUT, UH, MY DAUGHTER LIVED IN THAT HOUSE WHEN SHE WAS GROWING UP. AND SHE KEPT, HAD A PROBLEM WITH THAT. MY DAD DIED THERE ACROSS THE ROAD. THAT WAS IN THE EARLY LIFE THAT CRUSHED HER IN THE, IN THE, UH, SIXTIES. THAT WAS THE SECOND ATTEMPT TO CRUSH OFF THERE. AND, UH, WE, WE WOULD JUST, UH, AS THE COUNTY TO SUPPORT THE SAFETY ISSUE. THAT'S NOT GOING TO HELP ANYBODY BUT TRINITY MATERIALS. THAT'S THE ONLY ONE IN COUNTY MONEY. ONE DIME DOES NOT NEED TO GO TO HELP TRINITY MATERIALS. THEY'RE THE 30TH RICHEST BUSINESS IN THE STATE OF TEXAS. AND THEY DON'T NEED MY MONEY OR YOUR MONEY OR THE COUNTY'S MONEY. AND IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTION ABOUT THE, ABOUT THIS BROCHURE THAT, UH, I PREPARED, I'LL BE, I'LL BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. I DON'T WANT TO GO THROUGH ALL THAT BECAUSE Y'ALL ARE THE ONES THAT ARE LOOKING AT IT. WELL, AND EVERYBODY'S HAD A CHANCE TO, YOU KNOW, REVIEW IT. I THINK I'VE SEEN IT IN, LET ME, UH, LET ME MENTION ONE OTHER THING AS WE MOVE FORWARD. UH, THE SAFETY ISSUE THAT I, THAT WE DO HAVE CONTROL OVER IS THE ROAD COUNTY ROAD 3 46. WELL, THERE'S A HEALTH ISSUE THAT'S ALSO CONSIDERED SAFETY. THAT'S DEATH. WELL, THE, THE, UH, I UNDERSTAND THAT. AND, UH, THAT'S WHERE LAW ENFORCEMENT WILL HAVE TO COME IN PLACE AND SHERIFF'S HERE. AND I'M SURE THE, UH, CONSTABLE WILL, UH, BE HEARING YOUR COMMENTS AS WELL. BUT WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT, IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE DUST, ONE OF THE REASONS THAT COUNTY ROAD 3 46 WILL NEED TO BE IMPROVED IS TO MAKE IT DUST FREE. UH, AND SO THAT, THAT IS AN ISSUE. UH, COUNTY ROAD 3 46 IS GONNA BE A MUCH BETTER ROAD. IT'S NOT A PART OF OUR COUNTY ROAD BOND ISSUE THAT WE PASSED IN COST COUNTY. IT'S NOT A PART OF THIS NEW STATE PROGRAM WHERE WE'RE GETTING, UH, STATE MONEY TO HELP IMPROVE OTHER S OF THE COUNTY. IT IS A, UH, PROGRAM THAT WILL INVOLVE A PARTNERSHIP AGAIN, BETWEEN THE STATE OF TEXAS T STOCK, UH, TRINITY MATERIALS AND, UH, [00:30:01] KAMAN COUNTY TO DO THE LABOR. NOW, YOU KNOW, AND I KNOW THERE'S NOT ANYTHING THAT WE CAN DO AS A COUNTY TO REGULATE THAT, UH, CRUSHER. WE DON'T HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO DO THAT. WE COULDN'T SHUT THE CRUSHER DOWN. THAT'S WHAT TCE TOO TELLS ME. WELL, THEY, THEY SAY WHERE TO PUT THE CRUSHER. I'M NOT SURE ABOUT THAT. I MEAN, I, I CAN JUST TELL YOU WHAT I KNOW WE CAN AND WHAT WE CANNOT DO, AND I APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS. UH, WE, WE ARE NEIGHBORS. UH, YEAH, I'VE KNOWN YOU A LONG TIME AND, UH, MY DAD CAUGHT SCHOOL AT THE CEDAR GROVE SCHOOL THERE ABOUT 1940. AND SO I, I'M WELL AWARE OF THIS, UH, AREA. I KNOW THE PRESSURES THAT HAVE BEEN IN AND OUT OF THAT OVER THE YEARS. BUT, UH, YOU'RE ASKING US TO DO SOMETHING, THE SAFETY PART THAT'S IMPORTANT TO ALL OF US. BUT YOU'RE ASKING US TO CONTROL SOMETHING THAT WE DON'T HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO CONTROL. AND I WISH I, YOU KNOW, I, I DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE I CAN TELL YOU. COMMISSIONERS, ANYBODY WISH TO JOIN IN? WELL, LEMME, LEMME ASK YOU THIS. I'VE SEEN THREE KINDS OF SIGNS. I'VE SEEN, UH, NO THROUGH CUP PRINT AND THE SIGN ON COMING INTO 3 46, I'VE BEEN TOLD, UH, I, I NEVER NOTICED THAT SIGN. BUT ONE OF THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE THERE SAID, IT SAYS NO THROUGH COMMERCIAL TRACTOR. IS THAT RIGHT? COMMISSIONER CHAIN? IS THAT, I DON'T THINK IT SAYS THAT IT'S NO. THROUGH TRUCKS. UH, I TALKED TO ANY, YOU CAN'T REGULATE IF YOU'RE GOING TO REGULATE NO, THROUGH TRUCKS, THAT MEANS YOU CAN'T DRIVE YOUR PICKUP DOWN TO THERE. SO WE CHANGED RULING, LIKE JOHN AGREED THIS TO GO THROUGH COMMERCIAL TRUCKS. COMMERCIAL TRUCKS ARE IDENTIFIED IN THE STATE CODE AS BEING A CERTAIN WAY USED FOR COMMERCIAL PURPOSES. IF WE JUST SAID NO THROUGH TRUCKS, THEN THAT WOULD BE ANY TRUCK GOING DOWN THE ROAD. IT HAS TO BE A CERTAIN WAY TO BE A COMMERCIAL TRUCK. WELL, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE AND LEAVE THAT NO THROUGH COMMERCIAL, UH, TRAFFIC SIGN THERE. I THINK IT'LL BE A VALUABLE TOOL, UH, TO REGULATE THAT TRAFFIC. NOW, THE OTHER SIDE, AND THE OTHER THING LEMME MENTION ABOUT THAT, BECAUSE YOU'VE ALSO GOT UPS TRUCKS, YOU'VE GOT FEDEX TRUCKS, YOU'VE GOT PROPANE TRUCKS THAT ARE COMMERCIAL VEHICLES. SO THAT MEANS THEY'RE GOING TO GO IN AND THEN COME BACK OUT. SO IT'S NOT JUST GRAVEL TRUCKS, IT'S OTHER COMMERCIAL VEHICLES THAT MAY BE COMING DOWN THROUGH THERE. WELL, UH, OF COURSE THEY'RE, THEY'RE NOT, UH, 50 FOOT LONG AND WEIGHING 80,000 POUNDS. AND, UH, I'LL GIVE YOU THAT. I THINK THEM PERMITS ARE JUST AS EASY TO GET AS A, AS A ROCKPORT PERMIT, A OVERWEIGHT PERMIT. I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHO GIVES 'EM, BUT I BET YOU DON'T EVEN HAVE TO DRIVE THE TRUCK UP THERE. UH, THIS NEW ROAD, UH, THE PEOPLE WANT THIS ROAD, UH, THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE THERE, BUT IT, THEY DON'T WANT IT WITH THE ROCK TRUCK. I CAN, THAT'S NOT TAKING THIS ROOM RIGHT HERE AND PUTTING A NEW CARPET IN IT AND, UH, MAKING IT LOOK A LITTLE BETTER. NEW CARPET AND STUFF. AND THEN PUTTING 150 MORE CHAIRS IN HERE. WE ARE GOING TO GET, UH, ON DAYS THERE'S GOING TO BE, UH, OH, 200 TRUCKS COMING IN AND 200 TRUCKS GOING OUT. THEY PLANT, THEY SENT ON, UH, OVER HERE ON 85 0 88 PERMIT, UH, THEY'RE GOING TO DO 500 TONS OF HOUR ROCK. AND THEY PRODUCED I THINK 1 MILLION AND LET'S SEE, EIGHT IN A YEAR. SO THERE'S 20, 20 YEARS OF STUFF LEFT OUT HERE, AND WE'RE GOING TO BE STUCK WITH THAT. AND MOST OF US, SOME OF US AIN'T GONNA LIVE THAT LONG. I HOPE YOU DON'T WANT TO UNDERSTAND IT. SO, UH, WELL, LET, LET ME ASK YOU THIS, AND WE NEED TO, WE, WE'VE GOT OTHER THINGS ON THE AGENDA, AND I APPRECIATE YOU. I, I'LL, UH, GET OUTTA YOUR HAIR. NO, NO, I'M, YOU'RE A CITIZEN AND WE NEED TO HEAR, BECAUSE THIS IS AN IMPORTANT ISSUE, BUT THE SUMMIT OF YOU'RE IN FAVOR OF THE IMPROVED ROADS WITHOUT THE EXCESS TRAFFIC, WITHOUT THE TRUCKS, BASICALLY. WELL, UH, THE ROCK ROCK TRUCKS, YOU CAN LOOK OVER THERE. YOU CAN JUST LOOK AT THE PICTURE. YEAH, BUT I MEAN THAT, BUT BASICALLY THAT'S YOUR STATE. YES. OKAY. THE EXCESSIVE TRAFFIC. OKAY. U UH, USA DOESN'T SUPPORT THOSE ROADS VERY WELL. YOU CAN LOOK AT THIS MESS. THAT'S A PICTURE OF I TOOK MYSELF. YEAH. THAT YOU'VE GOT RIGHT THERE. AND, UH, IT'S, IT'S JUST GROWING. AND LIKE I SAY, THEY, THEY DON'T CARE. TRINITY DOESN'T CARE. WELL, LET ME, LET ME ADD THIS. UH, AND WE, WE DO NEED TO MOVE ON UNLESS THE COMMISSIONERS HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. BUT FM 27 28 FROM ELMO TO 4 29 [00:35:01] IS DUE FOR AN UPGRADE AS WELL, UH, BECAUSE OF THE ADDITIONAL TRUCK TRAFFIC THAT IS GOING TO BE HANDLED. AND I DO KNOW FOR SURE THAT TDO IS LOOKING AT THE INTERSECTION OF 27, 28 AND HIGHWAY 80 BECAUSE OF THE WIDTH ISSUE WHERE THE TRUCKS PULL UP, UH, AS PUTTING IN, UH, I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO, BUT IT'S GOING TO BE A STUDY AT LEAST OF PUTTING IN SOME SORT OF TRAFFIC SIGNAL THERE. SO THERE'S LOTS OF, LOTS OF THINGS BEING LOOKED AT AS FAR AS, UH, TRAFFIC SAFETY IS CONCERNED. UH, BUT I WANT YOU TO BE AWARE OF THOSE TWO, UH, ITEMS AS WELL. WELL, UH, YOU KNOW, I I, I DON'T WANT THAT. I, I HAD KIDS WHEN I LIVED THERE THAT COULDN'T DRIVE A BICYCLE. AND, UH, I DON'T KNOW, UH, HOW HOW MANY, UH, COMMISSIONERS HAVE, HAVE BEEN, HAVE DRIVEN BY THESE PLACES. UH, DRIVING UP THERE ON, UH, THREE 14 AND LOOK AT THAT MESS OUT THERE. NOW, WHEN THEY LEAVE, UH, THEY GOING TO LEAVE A CONCRETE SLAB ABOUT THE SIZE OF THIS ROOM RIGHT HERE, WHERE THEY POURED IT, I THINK, AT THEIR FENCE. I DON'T KNOW WHETHER THE COUNTY PAID IT OR NOT, BUT NO, WE DID NOT. IT IS NOT A GOOD THING FOR THE TRAFFIC THAT'S THERE. THEY'RE DRIVING OFF THE ROAD. THAT'S A VIOLATION OF THE RULES TO DRIVE WITH ONE WHEEL OFF THE ROAD. AND, UH, NOT ON THE CAUSEWAY. I LEARNED THAT HUNTING THE RULES, YOU SEE. SO, UH, AND THEN THE PEOPLE IN THE ELMO, THEY'RE NOT REALLY EXCITED ABOUT HAVING, UH, 200 TRUCKS COMING OVER THE CRACKS COMING IN ON 27, 28 AND 200 GOING OUT ON SOME DAYS. AND THAT MAY BE, UH, THAT MAY NOT BE ENOUGH TO, TO SEE HOW MANY TRUCKS ARE GOING TO COME. BUT, UH, THE RESIDENTS OVER THERE ARE INTERESTED IN, UH, FINDING OUT HOW TO STOP IT. AND, UH, I DON'T KNOW. UH, I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANYTHING THAT CAN'T BE CONTROLLED IF IT'S A PROBLEM. AND, UH, THE CANCER PATIENT, YOU LOOK AT THAT, UH, MAP THAT I GOT THAT, AND ANOTHER THING THAT, THAT MAP THAT THEY, UH, GOT, UH, I I, I SHOWED THOSE LITTLE SQUARES THAT THAT TELLS YOU, UH, WHAT THE LATITUDE AND LONGITUDE IS AND, AND ACCEPTABLE LOCATIONS, ALL THOSE THINGS, THEY'RE PUT ON THERE TO COVER UP WHERE PEOPLE LIVE. THEY'RE NOT TRYING TO GIVE YOU ANY INFORMATION. THEY'RE TRYING TO HIDE INFORMATION. AND I CAN FILL THIS TABLE UP WITH MISTAKES THAT THEY'VE MADE. AND, UH, I USED TO CALL 'EM MISTAKES AND MISREPRESENTATION. IT IS FLAT LINE LYING ON GOVERNMENT DOCUMENTS. THERE'S PAPERWORK IN RIGHT IN THIS FOLDER I'M CARRYING THAT SAYS THAT THE CRUSHER'S GOING TO BE IN VANZANT COUNTY BECAUSE IT IS A, UH, UH, IT'S A NON-ATTAINMENT IS THE WORD. AND KAMAN IS AN ATTAINMENT, IS A NON-ATTAINMENT. AND VANZANT COUNTY IS NOT. THEY EVEN, UH, COLTON PAY MORE FOR STATE INSPECTION FOR THAT. AND UH, THEY DON'T WANT TO BE, UH, IN COLTON COUNTY. THEY WANT YOU TO TRY TO, WELL, THAT'S JUST SOMETHING THAT THEY DO TO TRY TO GET BEHIND. IT'S LYING ON THE DOCUMENTS. AND I'M GOING TO ASK, UH, IS IT PERMISSIBLE TO ASK, UH, KAMAN COUNTY ENVIRONMENTAL OFFICER WHEN I SEE AN ENVIRONMENTAL ENVIRONMENT OUT THERE? BECAUSE THEY DON'T, THEY DON'T TELL US STUFF ANYMORE WHEN, UH, THEY FIND SOME REASON TO, UH, I, I HEAR SOME POLITICIANS, YOU CAN ASK THEM, UH, WHAT THE TEMPERATURE IS AND THEY'LL TELL YOU WHAT THE TEMPERATURE IS IN NEW YORK CITY AND THEY'LL GO ON SOMETHING ELSE AND YOU CAN'T GET AN ANSWER. I THINK THEY GOT ANY ENVIRONMENTAL CONCERN THAT YOU HAVE. UH, YOU SHOULD CONTACT THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE AND MAY HAVE AN ENVIRONMENTAL OFFICER THAT WILL COME OUT AND CHECK THAT. THAT'D BE A GOOD THING. YEAH, YOU CAN DO THAT. WELL, I WANT, I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR THE TIME AND, UH, I NOT, DON'T QUIT WORKING ON IT AND UH, I'M NOT GOING TO BADGER YOU, BUT IF I GET INFORMATION, UH, I'LL COME TO, UH, THE COMMISSIONER, UH, THAT'S, UH, THE ONE THAT'S, THAT'S IN CHARGE OF THAT ROAD. FIRST 23 INCHES. AIN'T THAT WHAT THEY SAY? LONG TO YOU FIRST, 23 INCHES OF THAT ROAD. SO, UH, YOU CONTROL IT, IT BELONGS TO ME. AND I THANK GOD. IS THERE ANYTHING HERE THAT I CAN, UH, ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF? UH, MR. RICE? I JUST HAVE ONE QUESTION, MR. RICE, COULD YOU PINPOINT THE, WHERE THE CRUSHER, THE EXISTING CRUSHER'S LOCATED ON THERE FOR? THERE'S NOT A CRUSHER THERE THAT PERMIT'S OVER THREE YEARS OLD. OKAY, THAT'S THE ONE THAT'S PROPOSED? YES. OKAY. PERMIT 9 1 1 50. YOU SEE THAT DOT [00:40:01] RIGHT THERE? YES. OKAY. THAT'S WHERE THAT'S GOING TO BE. AND ANOTHER THING, UM, NOT, I HATE TO TAKE SO MUCH TIME. THIS IS THE ROAD RIGHT HERE AND, UH, THE RULES, UH, THROUGH THE TCEQ IS THAT THE TWO DIFFERENT SECTIONS OF LAND MUST BE CONTINGENT. THAT MEANS THEY MUST TOUCH, THESE DON'T TOUCH, RIGHT? BUT THE COUNTY ROAD GOES THROUGH THERE, RIGHT? I OWN PART OF THAT ROAD. YOU OWN PART OF THAT ROAD AND THE COUNTY OWNS ALL THAT ROAD, RIGHT? SO THAT'S ANOTHER VIOLATION THAT YOU CAN'T GET 'EM TO ADMIT, RIGHT. CANCER PATIENTS, RIGHT? IS THERE AN EXISTING CRUSHER ON THIS PROPERTY RIGHT HERE? UH, NO SIR. THIS IS THE PROPOSED SIDE. OKAY. SO BOTH THESE ARE PROPOSED SIDE? YEAH, IT'S THE ONLY ONE THAT'S GOING TO BE THERE. OKAY. AND, UH, THIS IS THE AREA THAT THEY'RE GOING. MINE. SEE, THEY'RE MY SON'S HOUSE. YES. A HUNDRED FEET FROM THE ROCK PIT WHERE THE DYNAMITE, THEY'VE ALREADY PAID ME MONEY WHEN I LIVED THERE. THEY PAID ME. I, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S, UH, SEVEN OR $8,000 FOR SLAB DAMAGE AND UH, OWE 20. YOU STILL DIDN'T FIX. SO IT'S GOING TO DAMAGE ALL THE HOUSES AROUND HERE. AND YOU CAN SEE ON THIS MAP RIGHT HERE, THERE'S A LOT OF HOUSES THERE NOW AND IT'S SPILLED OVER INTO TON COUNTY. RIGHT. I APPRECIATE, UH, THAT QUESTION. YES. I JUST CAN'T ASK ONE. I CAN'T ANSWER. I BET I CAN'T. SURE ABOUT THAT. THANK YOU, JOE. ALRIGHT, THANK Y'ALL. THANK YOU. I COMMENT ON THIS THAT, UH, OH, GOT 'EM. I THAT COME JOE CAN HERE. JOE CAN I APPRECIATE CARE TIME WHEN WE START THINKING AGAIN ABOUT, UH, CODE ENFORCEMENT AND OUR WEIGHT MEASURE PROGRAM, UH, BECAUSE ONE GUY CANNOT BE OVER HERE AND OVER THERE AND OVER THERE AT ONE TIME TO KIND OF ADDRESS SOME THESE ISSUES THAT COME DOWN THE ROAD. SO WE NEED TO AT EXPANDING THAT WEIGHT PROGRAM, UH, AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY OTHER TIME? I AGREE THAT COMMENT. ALL RIGHT, LET'S MOVE TO ITEM NUMBER FOUR. THAT DISCUSSION TOOK NO REPORTS. UH, LAURIE AND FLOYD, OUR HR DIRECTOR TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER AN UPDATED POLICY ON TIME SHEETS AND COMPENSATION. YOU'VE GOT LOTS OF STUFF THERE TOO. UM, WE HAVE IMPLEMENTED THE NEW TIMEKEEPING SYSTEM. I CAME LAST COMMISSIONER COURT. WE KIND OF JUST TALKED ABOUT SOME STUFF GOING ON. UM, WE NEED TO GET A PAUSE. OUR POLICY UPDATED. OUR CURRENT POLICY TALKS ABOUT PAPER TIME SHEETS AND PROCESS FOR THAT. UM, SO I'VE GIVEN YOU AN UPDATED COPY TO, UM, TO WORK WITH OUR ELECTRONIC TIME SYSTEM. THERE ARE A FEW THINGS ON THE POLICY THAT, UM, NEED TO BE ADDRESSED THAT A DECISION NEEDS TO BE MADE BY YOU GUYS. UM, WE HAVE AN ISSUE. THE FIRST THING IS OUR EXEMPT VERSUS NON EXEMPT EMPLOYEES. IT'S A HUGE BATTLE, A HUGE ISSUE. UM, I WE GO BY THE FAIR LABOR STANDARD JACK TO CLASSIFY EMPLOYEES AS EXEMPT OR NON-EXEMPT. THAT IS WHAT I HAVE TO GO BY. IF I MISCLASSIFY SOMEONE, I'M PERSONALLY LIABLE IN THE COUNTY CLASS. UM, SO WE HAVE, UM, NOW A LOT OF PEOPLE COME INTO US BECAUSE WE HAD STARTED THE TIMEKEEPING SYSTEM THAT EXEMPT EMPLOYEES TO GET PAID FOR THE DAY ARE JUST, THEY JUST HAVE TO CLOCK IN ONE TIME AND REGISTER THAT THEY'RE THERE. THEY PAY THEM EIGHT HOURS. IF YOU DON'T CLOCK IN THE SYSTEM, UM, THINKS THAT YOU'RE NOT THERE AND YOU HAVE TO DECIDE IF YOU'RE GONNA, WHAT YOU GONNA LEAVE SICK USE SICK TIME OR VACATION TIME FOR THAT DAY. UM, SINCE THE SYSTEM HAS BEEN DEVELOPED, UM, THEY HAVE WORKED NOW WHERE WE CAN EITHER TWO EMPLOYEES WILL CLOCK IN CLOCK HOURS, JUST LIKE EVERY OTHER EMPLOYEE IN THE COUNTY. AND IT STILL ONLY PAYS THEM, UM, THE 40 HOURS A WEEK. SO THEY MAY WORK 50 AND THE SYSTEM SHOWS 50, THEY MAY WORK, UM, 35 AND THE SYSTEM SHOWS 35 AND THEY STILL GET PAID THE 40, UM, WHICH WASN'T THE SITUATION WHEN IT WAS FIRST IMPLEMENTED. SO AS OF RIGHT NOW, WE DO HAVE SOME EMPLOYEES THAT CLOCK IN AND CLOCK OUT ON A REGULAR BASIS. UM, AND THEN WE HAVE SOME THAT JUST CLOCK IN WITH ONE TIME. SO TO BE CONSISTENT, WE NEED TO DO IT ONE WAY OR THE OTHER. AND THAT IS Y'ALL'S DECISION ON HOW YOU WANNA DO THAT. I THOUGHT THAT WHEN, WHEN THEY DID THE, UH, UH, PRESENTATION FOR THIS SYSTEM, THAT IT WAS, THE WAY IT WAS EXPLAINED TO US WAS, OR THE MEETING THAT I WAS IN, ONE OF THE MEETING MEETINGS I WAS IN, IT SAID THAT IF SOMEBODY HAD A, IN OTHER WORDS SAY IF THEY WERE AN EXEMPT EMPLOYEE AND THEY CAME IN AND CLOCKED IN IN THE MORNING THAT THEY COULD CLOCK OUT VIA IPHONE IN THE AFTERNOON. [00:45:01] WHY IS THAT NOT BEING IMPLEMENTED? IT IS BEING IMPLEMENTED. SO WHAT'S THE PROBLEM? THE PROBLEM IS, IS SOME EMPLOYEES ARE NOT CLOCKING OUT. THEY'RE JUST WALKING IN. SO, UH, IT NEEDS TO BE COME TO A POINT WHERE THEY DON'T GET TO, DON'T GET PAID UNTIL IF THEY'RE NOT GONNA FOLLOW THE RULES, DON'T PAY 'EM. , I I COMMENT ABOUT THAT AS AN DEPARTMENT HEAD AND EXEMPT EMPLOYEE. I DO NOT HAVE AN IPHONE. I LEAVE MY HOUSE AT SEVEN 30 IN THE MORNING AND GO FOLLOW UP ON A COMPLAINT IN MY AREA. I DON'T HAVE AN IPHONE TO PUNCH IN AND OUT. OKAY. DO YOU HAVE, SO YOU'RE GONNA, DO YOU HAVE, DO YOU HAVE A COMPUTER AT ACCESSIBLE TO YOU AT, AT HOME? WAS IT NOT ALSO SAID THAT YOU COULD RIGHT. YOU COULD USE A COMPUTER TO LOG IN AND LOG OUT. RIGHT? THE ISSUE IS NOT THAT THE ISSUE, I MEAN THE IPHONE IS THAT'S, UH, OFFERED TO PEOPLE THAT HAVE ONE AND THE SUPERVISOR RELEASE IT. THE ISSUE IS WHEN THE FIR WHEN THE SYSTEM WAS FIRST IMPLEMENTED, UM, THERE WAS NO REQUIREMENT ON AN EXEMPT POINT TO CLOCK OUT. ALL THEY HAD TO DO WITH THE SYSTEM WAS CLOCK IN. THAT WAS WHEN THE SYSTEM WAS FIRST IMPLEMENTED. NOW WE'VE GOT SOME THAT CLOCK IN, SOME THAT CLOCK OUT AND ALL WE NEED TO DECIDE IS A POLICY, WHETHER THEY DO CLOCK IN OR WHETHER THEY DO OR THEY CLOCK OUT FOR US, THE, THAT'S ALL THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED. KATHY, ARE YOU WORKING 50 HOURS A WEEK NOT GETTING PAID FOR IT, ARE PAID 40 HOURS A WEEK, BUT THERE ARE BUT ARE YOU WORKING 50 AND NOT GETTING PAID FOR IT? YOU WORKING 45? I I GET PAID 40 HOURS. IT IS NEVER BEEN AN ISSUE UNTIL NOW. NEVER. I DON'T MIND USING MY PERSONAL CAR AND NOT GETTING PAID FOR IT TO GO TO THE COUNTY BUSINESS. THAT'S WHAT I THINK IS EXPECTED OF ME. IT'S SOMETHING THAT I'VE DONE. IT'S SOMETHING I'VE DONE FOR 28 YEARS. I DON'T HAVE AN ISSUE WITH IT. BUT IF YOU'RE GONNA TELL ME THAT I HAVE TO CLOCK IN AND CLOCK OUT, WHAT IF I GET PHONE CALLS ON MY VACATION TIME, WHICH HAPPENS FREQUENTLY? YEAH. AND I DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO A COMPUTER AT ALL. WELL, BY THEN I'M SUPPOSED TO CLOCK IN AND CLOCK OUT 'CAUSE I'M WORKING. JACK HAS THE SAME ISSUE. GEORGE HAS THE SAME ISSUE. I THINK. WELL I APOLOGIZE. I I JUST FIGURED SINCE I HAD AN IPHONE AND YOU KNOW, IF I, IF I ASKED THE TECHNOLOGY GURU IF I HAVE AN IPHONE, I JUST FIGURED, I'M SORRY. I THINK THAT AND, AND MY, MY COMMENT WAS INTENDED, I I, THE WAY I TELL YOU, UH, IT WAS THAT EMPLOYEES ARE CLOCKING IN AND PURPOSELY NOT CLOCKING OUT NO. AND WORKING 50 HOURS. NOT EMPLOYEES. WE'RE ONLY TALKING ABOUT EXEMPT EMPLOYEES. EXEMPT EMPLOYEES. WHETHER THEY WORK 50 HOURS A WEEK OR EIGHT HOURS A WEEK. RIGHT. ONLY GET PAID FOR 40 HOURS A WEEK. RIGHT. THEY GET NO OVERTIME, THERE'S NO OVERTIME, THERE'S NO COMP TIME. RIGHT. SO YES, THERE ARE SEVERAL TIMES WHEN, YOU KNOW, AN EXEMPT EMPLOYEE, MYSELF INCLUDED IN THERE, WHEN I'M SITTING AT HOME EATING DINNER AND I GET A PHONE CALL AND HAVE TO TAKE CARE OF IT. SO NO, WE DON'T, I DON'T, WE DON'T CALL ANY OUT. BUT WHAT I'M SAYING IS THERE CAN BE A DISTINGUISH BETWEEN DEPARTMENT HEADS AND EXEMPT EMPLOYEES BECAUSE WE HAVE EXEMPTED EMPLOYEES THAT ARE NOT DEPARTMENT HEADS THAT ARE NOT BEING TREATED THE SAME AS OTHER EMPLOYEES. WHICH IS THE ISSUE JACKIE, YOU TO SAY. YEAH, I, I'D LIKE TO SPEAK TO THAT ISSUE. UH, YOU KNOW, I'M ONE OF THE NEWER DEPARTMENT HEADS. I LIVED HERE HERE NINE YEARS AGO WHEN, WHEN I WAS HIRED, I WAS TOLD DECEMBER TO A OFFICIAL THAT YOU WERE TO COME TO WORK AND DO YOUR JOB THAT TOOK 30 HOURS OR 60 HOURS, WHATEVER. SO IF I'M AT HOME DURING THE HOLIDAY OR AT NIGHT, UH, VACATION PICK SOMETHING YOU GUYS CALL. OR IF I GET A CALL BECAUSE THE CREDIT CARD DOESN'T WORK OR IF I COME UP HERE WHEN I'M HAVING CHRISTMAS WITH MY FAMILY TO GO TO THE COURTHOUSE BECAUSE THE SERVER ROOM IS HOT AND I MAKE THOSE TRIPS FOR FREE. SO NOW THE COUNTY, I GUESS YOU TRUST MY TIME, SO NOW I NEED TO PUNCH IN AND SHOW YOU WHEN I'M HERE. UH, THERE AGAIN, UH, WHEN I WAS HIRED OR APPOINTED, I SHOULD SAY IT WAS SIMILAR TO THE, BUT OBVIOUSLY BACK IN THE DAY, UH, WE KIND OF CHANGED THINGS HERE. UH, WHEN, UH, IF YOU REMEMBER YEARS AGO, MAYBE DON'T REMEMBER WHEN WE GOT ACROSS THE BOARD RAISED, UH, I DON'T REMEMBER THAT. UH, I DON'T, IT IT IT HAS BEEN A WHILE. . BUT BASICALLY, BASICALLY WHEN THAT HAPPENED, UH, THERE WAS A CALL THAT THE ELECTED OFFICIALS DID NOT GET THE RAISE NOR DID THE DEPARTMENT HEAD GET THE RAISE A YEAR OR TWO LATER WHEN IT COMES TIME FOR FUR DAYS. THE FUR DAYS DID NOT APPLY TO ELECTED OFFICIALS. BUT IT APPLY TO DEPART. I THINK WE'RE COUPLED WITH FALLING RULES, YOU KNOW, PLAYING THE GAME. WE DIDN'T KNOW WHAT THE RULES AND, AND, AND FURTHER ON THIS, I THINK THIS WHOLE THING STARTED, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE SOME THAT SAVE TIME PROCESSES STARTED TO HELP PAYROLL. THERE'S OTHERS SAY THAT IT WAS ESTABLISHED BECAUSE WE HAD PEOPLE CHEATING TIME. OKAY. I THINK THAT'S THE LATTER IS MORE CORRECT. AND NOW WHEN, IF THEY WERE, UH, STEALING TIME, NOW YOU HAVE GIVEN THEM THE LICENSES STILL BECAUSE YOU DECLARED THEM EXEMPT, UH, FOR PEOPLE THAT THEY'VE NEVER BEFORE THAT WEREN'T PUTTING IN [00:50:01] 40 HOURS BEFORE. PEOPLE LIKE GEORGE YORK, HE'S ON TIME, YOU KNOW, FROM THE MORNING WAKES UP UNTIL IT GOES TO BED. BUT ARE WE SUPPOSED TO START RECORDING THAT TIME? DO Y'ALL WANT TO SEE IT SEND EIGHT HOUR A WEEK? Y'ALL SEE THAT? WELL, IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT, THAT WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR IS FOR PEOPLE TO SIGN IN ONE TIME IN THE MORNING. WE DID, WE'VE BEEN DOING THAT AND AND THAT'S IT. THAT'S IT. RIGHT. THE DEPARTMENT HEADS. BUT MUCH LIKE WE DID THE DEPARTMENT HEAD TO DO THE SIGN IN SHEETS, NO DEPARTMENT HAS ONLY TURNED IN TIME SHEETS THAT HAVE KEPT UP WITH THEIR QUOTES. OKAY. AND THAT'S THE ONLY REASON THEY HAVE TO USE THE SYSTEM NOW IS FOR IT TO KNOW WHEN THEY WORKED TO KEEP UP WITH THEIR QUOTES. AND SO BEFORE THEY DIDN'T, THEY NEVER REGISTERED WHAT TIME THEY LEFT CAME IN, WHAT TIME THEY LEFT. SO THAT JUST SHOWS THAT THEY'RE WERE AT WORK, RIGHT? YEAH. THEY SHOWED UP AND I DON'T KNOW THAT IT SAYS THEY HAVE TO SIGN IN AT EIGHT O'CLOCK. NO, NO. THEY JUST SIGN IN ONE TIME AND THEN YOU'RE ASKING THE COURT TO SAY THAT THEY HAVE TO SIGN OUT. YES. BUT I WOULD, WE COULD DISTINGUISH THAT BETWEEN DEPARTMENT HEAD BECAUSE THERE ARE EMPLOYEES THAT ARE NOT DEPARTMENT HEADS THAT ARE CLASSIFIED AS EXEMPT, WHICH ARE DIFFERENT THAN DEPARTMENT HEADS. JUDGE. IT WAS KIND OF MY UNDERSTANDING THAT JACK AND I POSITION'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT IS WE'RE BOTH APPOINTED HERE. IS YOUR, YOU'RE PART OF THAT IN THE TWO DISTRICT JUDGES AND THEN I'M APPOINTED BY THE DISTRICT JUDGE AND THIS, THIS CHANGE, I COULDN'T EVEN CLOCK IN THIS MORNING 'CAUSE MINE'S MESSED UP BECAUSE IT GOT ME GOING TWO WEEKS INSTEAD OF, I MEAN FOUR WEEKS INSTEAD OF TWO WEEKS. SO I HAVEN'T EVEN CLOCKED IN SO I'LL HAVE TO GO IN THERE. BUT I MEAN, SEVERAL TIMES IN THE LAST MONTH I COULDN'T CLOCK IN AT EIGHT EVEN THOUGH I WAS WORKING. 'CAUSE I WAS IN ROCKWALL TAKING CARE OF THOSE FINANCIAL ISSUES WITH THEIR AUDITOR FOR THE CAPITAL MURDER OR Y'ALL KNOW, Y'ALL CALL ME AT NIGHT AND THERE'S BEEN TIMES I'VE ANSWERED EMAIL AT 12 O'CLOCK AT NIGHT. I'M NOT FIXING IT ON A TIME CLOCK AND PUNCH IN AND OUT JUST TO ANSWER THE EMAIL TO CARRY ON COUNTY BUSINESS. AND I DON'T THINK WE WERE ASKING THAT WERE NO, NO. I'M JUST TELLING YOU WHAT OTHER THINGS HAVE COME UP AND ISSUES THAT PEOPLE'S TALKED ABOUT BECAUSE WE TRY TO TAKE CARE OF THE COUNTY'S BUSINESS WHEN Y'ALL NEED US TO. RIGHT. YOU KNOW, I DON'T WANT TO COMPLICATE IT FOR ANYBODY, BUT THERE HAS TO BE SOME WAY THAT PEOPLE SHOW THAT THEY HAVE WORKED AT WORK. YES. AND IF WE DID IT ON PAPER, I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY WE CAN'T DO IT. LIKE WITH THIS NEW SYSTEM. I THINK SHE LORI'S JUST WANTING CLARIFICATION AND WANTING YOU TO TELL HER HOW IT SHOULD BE. AND I LIKE HER TO THINK IF YOUR DEPARTMENT HEAD, YOU CLOCK IN. OKAY. IF YOU'RE NOT A DEPARTMENT HEAD, BUT YOU ARE AN EXEMPT EMPLOYEE, THEN THAT PROBABLY SHOULD BE REQUIRED THAT THEY HAVE TO CLOCK IN AND CLOCK OUT TO PROVE THAT THEY WORK BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT IN THAT HIGHER POSITION THAT THEY WORK ODD HOURS SOMETIMES AND ON WEEKENDS WHEN THEY'RE MEETING. OKAY, LET ME CLARIFY SOMETHING ABOUT MY COMMENT. WHEN YOU SAY EMPLOYEES, I SHOULD HAVE DISTINGUISHED BETWEEN DEPARTMENT HEADS AND EMPLOYEES. EXEMPT EMPLOYEES. OKAY. EXEMPT EMPLOYEE. THERE'S NOT EXEMPT EXEMPT EMPLOYEE. RIGHT. I SHOULD HAVE DISTINGUISHED, I SHOULD HAVE SAID DEPARTMENT HEADS AND EMPLOYEE. I'M TALKING ABOUT AN EMPLOYEE WHO IS EXEMPT, NOT A DEPARTMENT HEAD. I WOULD THINK THAT THEY WOULD NEED TO PUNCH IN AND OUT. THE DEPARTMENT HEADS NOT, MAYBE NOT SO MUCH BECAUSE I KNOW Y'ALL GO ABOVE AND BEYOND JUST LIKE THE COMMISSIONERS DO, YOU KNOW, GO AT IT TWO IN THE MORNING, WHATEVER, YOU KNOW, I KNOW THAT THAT IS THE CASE. SO MAYBE I SHOULD HAVE, UH, DISTINGUISHED BETWEEN DEPARTMENT HEADS AND REGULAR EMPLOYEES. AND I APOLOGIZE FOR MY COMMENT. I I DO APPRECIATE THAT I, I BECAUSE THE DISTINCTION, WE WEREN'T CLEAR WHAT THE DISTINCTION IS BECAUSE WE WERE ALL BEING LUMPED INTO ONE BIG PART OF EXEMPT EMPLOYEES. RIGHT. AND I THINK THAT'S WHERE, RIGHT. UM, THE DISTINCTION NEEDS TO BE MADE BY Y ALL WE WOULD APPRECIATE THAT IF YOU WOULD. THE ONLY CONCERN I HAD WHEN I STARTED THIS JOB, UH, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I WAS MADE AWARE OF IS THAT WE HAD PEOPLE, AND I'M NOT SAYING THESE PEOPLE ARE STILL HERE NOW, OKAY. BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I WAS MADE AWARE OF BY SEVERAL PEOPLE IS THAT WE HAD A NUMBER OF PEOPLE IN THE COUNTY THAT WOULD WORK HALF A DAY. THEY WERE, UH, EITHER DEPARTMENT, HEAD DEPARTMENT HEADS, OR MAYBE AT SOMETIME AN EXEMPT EMPLOYEE AND NO ONE KNEW WHERE THEY WERE. THAT AIN'T RIGHT. THAT'S NOT RIGHT. IT'S NOT. AND THAT'S THE REASON WE'RE TRYING TO START THIS SYSTEM NOW. WE NEED TO MAKE IT MAYBE MORE USER FRIENDLY. UH, AND I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY HOW WE CAN DO THAT, BUT WE'VE INVESTED A LOT OF TIME AND MONEY INTO THIS SYSTEM [00:55:01] AND I'M NOT PREPARED TO LET IT GO. SO IF THERE'S SOME COMMON SENSE THINGS THAT WE CAN DO TO MAKE IT BETTER, I THINK WE HAVE TO DO IT. IT'S ALL ABOUT ACCOUNTABILITY. AND UH, IF WE'VE GOT PEOPLE THAT, UH, I THINK IF THEY CAN SIGN IN ONE TIME, IF THEY GET HERE AT NINE AND SIGN IN OR WHATEVER, I THINK THEY SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO DO THAT. I DON'T THINK THEY HAVE TO SIGN OUT IN THE AFTERNOON. I MEAN THAT JUST, I JUST DON'T SEE THAT BEING AN ISSUE. AND SO IS THAT BASICALLY WHAT YOU'RE ASKING US? YES. OKAY. UH, WE'VE GOT THIS ON THE AGENDA. YOU MAY HAVE SOME OTHER THINGS. I THINK YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT THAT. DO WE HAVE A CONSENSUS? TELL US EXACTLY WHAT YOU WANT US TO TELL YOU. UM, WHO CLOCKS IN, WHO CLOCKS OUT. OKAY. EXEMPT EMPLOYEES WOULD CLOCK IN ONCE IN THE MORNING. EXEMPT EMPLOYEES INCLUDING NON DEPARTMENTS? YES. OKAY. IS THAT AGREEABLE WITH EVERYBODY? I THINK THERE NEEDS TO BE A DISTINGUISHING, UH, PHRASE PUT IN THERE THAT UH, UH, WHERE THE EXEMPT EMPLOYEES WHO ARE NOT DEPARTMENT IS, I BELIEVE THEY NEED TO PUNCH OUT AND THEY JUDGE, I'D HAVE TO ADD THAT. I MEAN, UH, PROBABLY CALL NAME, BUT WE KNOW FOR A FACT THAT SOME OF THE PEOPLE THAT WE FELT WERE ISSUES HAVE NOW BEEN DECLARED EXEMPT. THOSE SAME PEOPLE THAT, THAT WE WANTED TO PUNCH IN NOW HAVE BEEN DECLARED EXEMPT BY THE DEPARTMENT HEADS? NO, BY THE POLICY. OH, BY THE POLICY. THE FAIRLY FOR STANDARDS ACT. AND, AND THAT, THAT'S NOT ALL OF 'EM. DON'T GET ME WRONG. THEY'RE JUST HANDFUL OF 'EM. BUT SOME OF THE FOLKS THAT WERE THE PURPOSE OF THIS THAT WEREN'T PUTTING THEIR TIME IN NOW ARE EXEMPT. AND I THINK YOUR POINT IS, IS WELL TAKEN. THERE SHOULD BE SOME DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE EXEMPT AND THE DEPARTMENT HEAD. BUT NOW I'M GONNA DO MY JOB, YOU KNOW, BUT NOT GONNA BE, MAYBE NOT BE QUITE CRAZY ABOUT TALKING TO YOU SATURDAY NIGHT AND YOU CALL ME. I UNDERSTAND IT'S A PROBLEM, BUT IF YOU BUT TRUST, NOT TRUST THAT ME. RIGHT. I UNDERSTAND. I'M DONE. WELL, RULES ARE NOT PAID FOR PEOPLE THAT OBEY THE RULES. IT'S MADE PEOPLE NOT YEAH. AND THAT'S WHERE WE GET INTO THE PROBLEM SOLVING. I HATE THAT THEY THINK IT'S THAT THEY NOT TRUSTED AND I DON'T WANT ANYBODY THAT'S, THAT'S NOT, THAT'S NOT MY ISSUE. IT IS JUST, YOU KNOW, IF, IF, UH, IF A REGULAR EMPLOYEE, IF A REGULAR NON-EXEMPT EMPLOYEE IS REQUIRED TO CHECK IN AND CHECK OUT, OKAY. AND THEN YOU HAVE AN EMPLOYEE, NOT A DEPARTMENT HEAD. LET ME MAKE THAT PERFECTLY CLEAR, THAT YOU MADE AN EXEMPT, AN EXEMPT EMPLOYEE COMES IN AND CHECKS IN ONCE A DAY. SAY HE'D BE A, NOT A DEPARTMENT HEAD, BUT A SUPERVISOR OR WHAT HAVE YOU, AND HE CHECKS IN IN THE MORNING AND YOU DON'T SEE HIM THE REST OF THE DAY. THAT'S WHAT, THAT'S WHAT I'M AFTER TO GET A HANDLE ON BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT, THAT'S WHAT THE CALLS COME INTO MY OFFICE ABOUT. SAY, WELL SUCH AND SUCH IS AT HOME ONCE HE'S DOING AT HOME IN THE COUNTY VEHICLE OR WHAT HAVE YOU KNOW, I KNOW FOR A FACT HE'S HOME. I SEEN MATT WATER IN THE YARD OR WHATEVER. THAT'S YOU. I GET IT. SO IS THERE AN ISSUE DOING LIKE TO WANTS, DO DEPARTMENT HEADS JUST PUNCH IN SO THEY KEEP TRACK OF VACATION DAYS, SICK DAYS OR WHATEVER. THAT'S THE PURPOSE. THEM PUNCHING IN, RIGHT. AND THEY CAN DO THAT FROM HOME OR THEIR OFFICE OR EVEN THREE DAYS LATER THEY GET DONE CORRECTING YOUR TIME SHEET. IS THAT CORRECT? MM-HMM . OKAY. LET'S EXEMPT THE, I MEAN LET'S SAY THAT THE DEPARTMENT HAD JUST PUNCH IN FOR THE, FOR THE RECORD KEEPING PART AND EXEMPT EMPLOYEES PUNCH IN, PUNCH OUT. IS THAT, IS THAT AN ISSUE? THAT'S WHERE AS LONG AS IT'S DEFINED AS NON DEPART HEADS. SO DO WE NEED TO CHANGE THE POLICY? UM, I WOULD JUST NEED TO INCLUDE EXCLUDING DEPART HEADS. OKAY. I'LL JUST ADD THAT LANGUAGE. IS THAT AGREEABLE WITH EVERYBODY? IF YOU NEED THAT DEPARTMENTAL MOTION, DO WE? WELL, BEFORE WE GET TO THAT, THEN YOU HAVE OTHER, YEAH. UH, WE ALSO ON THAT SAME POLICY, THERE IS UM, ANOTHER ISSUE THAT'S ON RIGHT NOW. WE HAVE, UH, ALL THE ISSUES WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS. UM, THIS IS JUST TO BE CONSISTENT RIGHT NOW WE'VE GOT SOME, UM, DEPARTMENTS WHERE, SAY AN EMPLOYEE, UM, WE LIKE FOR INSTANCE, WE, THEY TAKE A VACATION DAY ON MONDAY. THEY TAKE A VACATION DAY OF EIGHT HOURS AND THEN THE REST OF THE WEEK, YOU KNOW, TUESDAY THROUGH FRIDAY, THEY END UP WORKING A, ACTUALLY WORKING A TOTAL OF 33 HOURS. SO 33 PLUS THEIR EIGHT HOURS OF VACATION DAY WOULD EQUAL 41 HOURS. SO THEY WOULD GET ONE HOUR MOVED INTO THEIR STRAIGHT TIME BALANCE. THEY WOULDN'T GET TIME AND A HALF WORK BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T ACTUALLY WORK 40 OVER 40 HOURS. BUT THEY WOULD GET AN HOUR MOVED INTO THEIR STRAIGHT TIME BALANCE. OKAY. THEN YOU HAVE OTHER OFFICES THAT WOULD JUST USE ONE [01:00:01] HOUR LESS OF THEIR VACATION TIME. SO THEY WOULD USE SEVEN HOURS OF VACATION ON THAT MONDAY AND THEN WORK THE 33 HOURS EQUAL 40 NO STRAIGHT TIME ACCUMULATED. SO WE'VE GOT SOME WHO AND SOME AND SOME DO THE OTHER. AND I FEEL IT NEEDS TO BE CONSISTENT IN WHAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN. SO WHAT IS YOUR RECOMMENDATION? IT DOESN'T MATTER TO ME. I MEAN IT'S ALL IT'S DOING IS MOVING HOURS FROM ONE POT TO THE OTHER. UM, IF THEY TAKE VACATION DAY OR SICK DAY OR SOMETHING, THEY'RE GET THEIR OWN STRAIGHT TIME FOR TAKING THEIR SICK DAY OR VACATION DAY OR THEY'RE NOT. SO IT'S KIND OF, IT DOESN'T MATTER TO ME. WERE MANY OTHERS. SO IT'S JUST A MATTER OF WHAT Y'ALL ARE. GENTLEMEN, WHAT DO YOU, WHAT'S YOUR PLEASURE? WELL, THE COMPUTER RECOGNIZE IT RIGHT NOW. IT'S DOING BOTH. BUT I GOT PEOPLE THAT ARE CALLING. THEY'RE LIKE, WHY IS IT DOING THAT? I'M TRYING TO TAKE LESS VACATION TIME OR I GOT PEOPLE SAYING IT WON'T GIMME MY STRAIGHT TIME. SO THE SYSTEM WILL RECOGNIZE EITHER ONE. I JUST FEEL IT SHOULD BE CONSISTENT. THEY PAPER THEIR VACATION TIME IF THEY WERE TO WAIT RETIRE OR WHATEVER, VACATION TIME AND COMP TIME, YES, BUT NOT SICK TIME. SO THEY USE EIGHT HOURS OF SICK TIME AND THEY TOLD NOT TO USE ONE HOUR, THEN, YOU KNOW, THAT'S AN HOUR. THAT'S AN HOUR. I THINK SICK TIME SHOULD BE FOR WHEN YOU'RE SICK. IF YOU'RE TAKING OFF FOR SOME OTHER REASON, IT SHOULD BE EITHER, UM, VACATION OR COMP TIME, IN MY OPINION. IS THAT WHAT WE I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND THAT. SORRY. INSTEAD OF USING YOUR SICK TIME MM-HMM . TO TAKE OFF YOUR PERSONAL BUSINESS OR WHATEVER. RIGHT. WELL, THEY'RE ONLY SUPPOSED TO USE SICK TIME NOW FOR SICK TIME. YEAH, BUT DIDN'T YOU SAY THEY WERE USING WELL, NO, WHAT I'M SAYING IS THEY'RE ACCUMULATING STRAIGHT TIME. IF THEY USE SICK TIME, IF THEY EXCEED THE 40 HOURS WITHIN THAT WEEK, SO THEY'RE USING THEIR SICK TIME PROPERLY AND AT THE END OF THE WEEK THEY'RE ACCUMULATING. RIGHT. ACCUMULATION KI WHAT SHE RECOMMENDS. , I RECOMMENDED BOTH. SEE OPTION ONE, OPTION TWO. YOU HAVE NO, NO, IT DOESN'T MATTER. I MEAN, I, I'M ON THE FENCE ON EITHER ONE. SO AS LOAN EMPLOYEE SHOULD GET TO USE THEIR HOURS THAT THEY WANT TO USE, BUT ON THE OTHER HAND, THEY'RE ACCUMULATING TIME FOR BEING OFF, WHICH IS SO, SO IF THEY TAKE OFF ON MONDAY AND THEN WOUND UP WORKING 40 HOURS IN THE OTHER FOUR DAYS, THEN THEY COUNT, THEY'RE COUNTING ONE HOUR AS A VACATION BATH. WELL, IF THEY WORK 40 THE OTHER FOUR DAYS AND THEY TOOK OFF EIGHT HOURS, THAT WOULD BE EIGHT HOURS THEY WOULD ACCUMULATE AND STRAIGHT TIME. RIGHT. SO IT'S MOVING THE HOURS FROM ONE PLOT TO ANOTHER IS ALL IT'S DOING. LAUREN, WHY DON'T YOU SAY FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT HOURS OVER 160 WOULD BE COUNTED AS STRAIGHT BECAUSE ONLINE CALCULATED DIFFERENTLY. YEAH. UM, LAW ENFORCEMENT ARE UNDER THE 2 0 7 K EXEMPTION. OKAY. WHERE THEY ONLY WORK ONE 60 AND THEN FROM 1 61 TO ONE 70 STRAIGHT TIME. AND THEN ALEX WORKED OVER 1 71 IS COMP TIME. OKAY. JUST YOU DON'T HAVE PREFERENCE NEED GIVE SOME DIRECTION. SO WHAT, WHAT'S, WHAT'S YOUR I JUST HAVE SOME OFFICES DOING ONE THING AND THE OTHER. SO IT'S, AND WE DO, WE DO NEED TO BE CONSISTENT. I UNDERSTAND THAT. AND I MEAN THAT GIVES YOU, UH, SOME, YOU KNOW, FOR PEOPLE TO THINK, WELL I'M NOT GETTING TREATED LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE AND THAT'S WHERE THE, I'LL GO ALONG. I DIDN'T GET THIS INFORMATION IN MY PACKET. I DIDN'T HAVE TIME TO STUDY DID, I'M SORRY. SO I JUST, THEY COME TO ME AND ASK ME WHAT TO DO AND I'M JUST LIKE, WHAT? I MEAN, THERE'S NO POLICY, SO IT'S WHATEVER YOU WANT TO DO RIGHT NOW. OKAY. SO YOU WANT TO MAKE A DECISION ON OPTION ONE OR OPTION TWO. MM-HMM . OKAY. AND OPTION ONE AT THE END IT SAYS FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT HOURS OVER ONE 60 WILL BE COUNTED AS STRAIGHT. SO THAT'S OVER ONE FROM ONE 60 TO 1 71 BEFORE THEY CAN [01:05:01] COMPOUND MM-HMM . WELL THAT, AND THAT'S NOW, AND WITH LAW ENFORCEMENT WHAT THAT IS, IS IF THEY TAKE, BECAUSE WITH LAW ENFORCEMENT IT'S A LITTLE MORE TRICKY, BUT IF THEY TAKE A VACATION, THEIR FIRST SHIFT, SO THEY USE, UM, LET'S SAY 40, THEY WORK ONE 40, LET'S SAY 40 HOURS OF VACATION THAT FIRST WEEK. AND THEN BECAUSE THEY'RE ON A 28 DAY CYCLE, SO WITHIN THAT 28 DAYS, 99% OF THE TIME, THEY USUALLY WORK MORE THAN THEIR ONE 60. SO THEY, HALF THE TIME THEY DON'T LIVE USING ANY OF THEIR VACATION TIME, ALTHOUGH THEY WERE OUT BECAUSE THEY'VE ALREADY WORKED THEIR ONE 60, THEY'VE ACCUMULATED THEIR TIME WORKED. SHERIFF, IS THERE ANY ADVANTAGE OR DISADVANTAGE TO THAT? NO. THE ONLY THING WE HAVE TO WATCH AGAIN IS, IS TO WORK THENCE STORY TIME, BECAUSE THIS TIME AND A HALF, YOU KNOW, SO THE, WHEN YOU START, YOU KNOW, MAKING THE, THE COUNT, WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S HARD TIME OVER TIME ACTUALLY WORK BEFORE THEY EARN THE CONDENSED STORY TIME, BECAUSE THAT'S TIME AND A HALF. SO, AND IT WILL, IF THE, UM, BY MOVING IT OVER INTO STRAIGHT TIME, IT WILL INCREASE THEIR COMP TIME BALANCE SIGNIFICANTLY, WHICH WE HAVE TO PAY THAT WHEN THEY LEAVE. SO RIGHT NOW THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT, THEY, THEY STOP IT AT ONE 60 AND THEY JUST DON'T USE THE BENEFIT HOURS. UM, THEY'RE THE MAJORITY THAT DO THAT. AND THEN WE'VE GOT SOME OFFICES THAT DO THAT. SO YOU'RE, YOU'RE CURRENTLY COMPLIANT WITH OPTION NUMBER ONE THEN? YEAH, WE'RE COMBINED WITH WHATEVER LAURIE TELLS US TO DO. . SO WHICH, SO WHICH OPTION ARE YOU TELLING THE SHERIFF TO DO? LAURIE ONE OR TWO? NO, THEY'RE ACTUALLY DOING TWO. OPTION TWO, THEY'RE USING, THEY USE LESS THAN A GOOD HOURS. THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE AND EVERYBODY ELSE IS KIND OF DOING WHAT WOULD BE CONSISTENT IF YOU WANT OPTION TWO. DOES THAT SOUND, IS THAT WHAT WE DO AT THE BARN? UM, I'M NOT GONNA LIE. I DUNNO WHAT Y'ALL DO EXACTLY. IT LOOKS LIKE OPTION TWO IS WHAT I'M USING. MAJORITY OF PEOPLE DO THE OPTION TWO BECAUSE I WANT TO SAVE THEIR BENEFIT HOURS. MAKE MOTION TWO. WELL THAT'S, DO WE HAVE ANY, I WANNA ROLL ALL THESE INTO ONE MOTION. OKAY. SO, UH, WHAT, WHAT'S THE OTHER ISSUE? UM, THAT'S ALL ON THAT POLICY. THE OTHER ONE IS JUST THE WORDING ON OUR COMPENSATION POLICY. IT WAS WORDED AS IF EVERY EMPLOYEE WAS PAID ON A SALARY BASIS, WHICH IS NOT ACCURATE. UM, OUR NON EXEMPT EMPLOYEES ARE PAID HOURLY. THEY'RE PAID FOR THE HOURS THAT THEY WORK. SO THAT WAS JUST A WORDING THING FOR THE MEANS FOR THE MEANS, YES. OKAY. TO ACCURATELY REFLECT WHAT WE DO. ALRIGHT GENTLEMEN. SO WE NEED TO GO BACK AND, UH, THE FIRST ITEM LAURIE HAD ME REMEMBER WAS WE DECIDED THAT WE WOULD HAVE, UM, EXEMPT INVOICE EXCLUDING DEPARTMENT HEADS WILL CLOCK IN AND CLOCK OUT OKAY. AND BE COUNTED FOR THEIR 40 HOURS. AND THEN THE SECOND ONE IS WE WOULD GO WITH OPTION TWO. OPTION TWO THAT THEY EMPLOYEE WILL USE LESS BENEFIT HOURS INSTEAD OF EARNING STRAIGHT TIME. OKAY. WHICH ONE ARE YOU GENTLEMEN? LIKE TO PUT THAT FORM OF A MOTION IF FOR ALL THREE, JUST TO MANAGE YOUR MOTION TO INCLUDE, UH, OPTION TWO. THE OPTION TWO EXCLUDING DEPARTMENT IS ON TIME. WHERE'S THIS TIME SHEET? YOU TALKING ABOUT THE TIME SHEET EXCEPTION, RIGHT? YEAH. AND DISTINGUISHED DEPARTMENT HEADS FROM REGULAR EMPLOYEES THAT ARE EXEMPT. THE OBJECT NUMBER TWO WITH THE WORDING ON THERE. WITH EXCEPTION OF DEPARTMENT HEADS YES. TO INCLUDE. YEAH. OKAY. COMMISSIONER, YOU YES, I THAT'S LAURA, DID YOU GET THANK YOU. GET ALL THAT DOWN ? WELL, NO, THAT APPROVAL A POLICY ON TIME SHEETS WHERE AS EXEMPT EMPLOYEES EXCLUDING DEPARTMENT HEADS ARE REQUIRED TO CLOCK IN AND OUT USING NO TIME EACH DAY. BUT THE OPTION, THE SECOND OPTION ON THE COMPENSATORY TIME, IS THAT GONNA GO UNDER THE NEXT TOPIC, WHICH WAS COMPENSATION. THE COMPENSATION WAS A SEPARATE POLICY. THERE WAS TWO THINGS ON THAT PAY PERIOD OF TIME SHEETS POLICY. YES. OKAY, SO THE COMPENSATION IS OPTION TWO? YES. UM, NO, THE COMPENSATION WAS AN ADDITIONAL POLICY SEPARATE FROM THE OKAY. AND THEY WERE JUST APPROVING THE CHANGES ON THAT ONE. THAT ONE'S [01:10:01] UNDER, UM, I GUESS YOU CAN PUT IT UNDER COMP. OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR FROM COMMISSIONER AND I BELIEVE WE HAVE A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER. MAN. DO WE HAVE FURTHER DISCUSSION? JOHN, DO YOU, ARE YOU THOROUGHLY CONFUSED ON THIS OR YOU THINK WE'RE HEADED DOWN THE RIGHT PATH? NO, UH, I, I I THINK THIS IS RIGHT. AND I SEE WE'RE, COREY IS EXPLAINED THE ONE 60 ON, ON THE OTHER PAGE OF LAW ENFORCEMENT. SO THAT ANSWERS MY QUESTION THERE. MM-HMM . DO WE HAVE FURTHER THE DISCUSSION ON THIS ISSUE? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. A. THOSE OPPOSED. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHTY. NEXT ITEM IS NUMBER FOUR. UH, I'M SORRY, NUMBER FIVE, CONSTABLE JOHN MAYFIELD. MR. CONSTABLE HERE TO PRESENT HIS, UH, RACIAL PROFILING REPORT. SHERIFF, DO YOU HAVE HIS? NO, I DO NOT. OKAY. WE WILL TABLE, UH, CONSTABLE, OR WE'LL JUST PUT IT OFF THE AGENDA THE NEXT TIME. UH, ACCEPT I GOT IT OR DO WE HAVE IT? DID ANYBODY OH, THAT'S RIGHT, WE DO HAVE, I DIDN'T, I DON'T, I DON'T BELIEVE I'VE SEEN ONE THAT SAYS PARTIAL EXEMPTION, BUT THAT, THAT PERTAINS TO THE 90 DAY, UH, VIDEO I SUPPOSE. IS THAT CORRECT, SHERIFF? PARDON? I'VE NEVER SEEN ONE OF THESE THAT HAD A PARTIAL EXEMPTION. AND IS THAT DUE TO THE FACT THAT, THAT THE, THE VIDEO IS ONLY MAINTAINED FOR 90 DAYS? UH, I DON'T A PARTIAL EXEMPTION. THAT'S WHAT IT SAYS. YEAH. I DON'T KNOW. WE WE DO TIER ONE. I HAVEN'T SEEN A DEALERSHIP. I THINK IT'S JUST A STANDARD RECORD ON THERE. IT MUST BE LOOK LIKE THREE'S GOT THE SAME THING. YEAH, THAT'S BECAUSE THE VIDEO ONLY MAINTAINED FOR DAY. NO, I GO, I GO TO IS THAT THE WRONG I THAT STANDARD? IS EVERYBODY COMFORTABLE ACCEPTING THIS BEING? WE HAVE A MOTION FROM, UH, COMMISSIONER TO ACCEPT THE RACIAL PROFILING, THE COURT PRECINCT ONE CONSTABLE'S OFFICE. UH, COMMISSIONER, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR TO SAY A, A? THOSE OPPOSED? UH, ITEM NUMBER SEVEN. I'M SORRY, NUMBER SIX IS THE PROFILING REPORT FROM, UH, PRECINCT THREE. UH, ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT? I, I REALLY DO WANT TO OVER IS BASICALLY MORE ABOVE ONE, BUT IT'S THE SAME THING. OKAY. I I WILL ENCOURAGE THE CONSTABLE NEXT YEAR COME AND PERSONALLY JUST SO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, ANYBODY HAVE ANY, ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT, UH, CONSTABLE, UH, PRECINCT THREE RACIAL PROFILING REPORT? NOT I ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ACCEPT. UH, MR. SHANE MAKES THAT MOTION THAT, UH, I COMMISSIONER ROSA, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. ITEM NUMBER SEVEN, KATHY MORRIS TO PRESENT EXCEPT, UH, THE PUBLIC WORKS REPORT. KATHY, THANK YOU. OKAY, WELL FEBRUARY WE HAD A TOTAL OF 19 PERMITS APPLICATIONS, SO THAT WAS PRETTY GOOD. UM, BY PRECINCT. PRECINCT ONE HAVE FIVE, TWO HAVE THREE. THREE HAD FOUR AND FOUR HAD SEVEN AND COMPLAINTS INVESTIGATED. THERE WERE A TOTAL OF A HUNDRED SEVEN SEVENTY NINE FOR NO MAINTENANCE CONTRACT AND 24 MALFUNCTIONING FOUR WERE WHERE MAINTENANCE VIOLATIONS COMPLAINTS BY PRECINCT, PRECINCT ONE AND 32. PRECINCT 238. PRECINCT THREE HAD 15 IN PRECINCT FOUR PRECINCT CASE WOULD FILE 63 CASES. 42. NO MAINTENANCE CONTRACT MAINTENANCE COMPLY. SO WE DIDN'T AT ALL. 13 COURT CASES. PRECINCT PRECINCT 15, PRECINCT 28, PRECINCT THREE 13 AND PRECINCT FOUR HAD SEVEN AND THERE WERE A TOTAL OF 23 NEW ADDRESSES. I BELIEVE THAT THERE'S A COUPLE OF SUBDIVISIONS PROPOSED THAT THEY HAD LOOKED AT ALSO THAT HAVE NOT BEEN ADDRESSED FOR, Y'ALL [01:15:01] HAVEN'T GOTTEN ANY PAPERWORK ON 'EM YET. THEY'RE NOT TO THAT STAGE. UH, ADDRESSES ABOUT PRECINCT WERE NUMBER PRECINCT. ONE HAD FOUR, PRECINCT TWO HAD FOUR PRECINCT THREE HAD SIX, AND PRECINCT FOUR HAD NINE. THEY DO HAVE A NEW, UM, GIS SUPERVISOR AT COG AND HE STARTED, I BELIEVE TWO WEEKS AGO. SO WE DON'T HAVE ANY GI IS DATA. HE HASN'T HAD A CHANCE TO DO ANYTHING GOING AROUND THE COUNTIES AND THEMSELVES MARCH. SO HOPEFULLY IN THE NEXT MONTH WE'LL HAVE ANOTHER UPDATED RECORD BEFORE I INFORMATION ANY QUESTIONS. COURT CASE IS FILED, COURT CASES BY PRECINCT. UH, WHY DO THEY NOT ADD THAT? ARE THEY SETTLED BEFORE THEY GET TO COURT OR WHAT'S THAT? SOME OF 'EM DO. SO PROBABLY NO MAINTENANCE CONTRACT. SOMEBODY'S HAS GOTTEN THEIR CONTRACT. THE SAME THING WITH THESE, WITH THE COMPLAINTS INVESTIGATED BY COMPLAINTS. YES. I DON'T THINK THE NUMBER SHOULD BE THE SAME, BUT THEY, UH, THE COMPLAINTS INVESTED BY PRECINCT AND BY TOTAL COMPLAINTS INVESTIGATED. I KEEP OUT THE MALFUNCTION, THE MAINTENANCE PROVIDER VIOLATIONS BECAUSE THAT'S A COMPLETELY SEPARATE ISSUE. THAT'S A LICENSING ISSUE THAT WE DEAL WITH PCQ ON. IT'S JUST MORE OF INFORMATION. THIS IS WHAT WE'RE HAVING ISSUES WITH THE MAINTENANCE PROVIDERS. SO I DON'T PUT IT IN PRECINCT BECAUSE IT'S NOT SPECIFIC TO A HOMEOWNER. WELL, THERE WAS MORE, THERE WAS 107 CASES COMPLAINTS INVESTIGATED, BUT THERE WAS ONLY 103 COMPLAINTS. INVESTIGATE MORE COMPLAINTS. HAVE YOU, CAN YOU INVESTIGATE MORE THAN YOU GET? WE CAN IF THERE ARE FOLLOW UPS OR THERE'S A COUPLE OF 'EM, THEY GO BY HOUSES. SOMETIMES THERE'S TWO OR THREE VIOLATIONS OF THE HOUSE THAT MAY HAVE BEEN NUMBERED THAT WAY. IT DEPENDS ON HOW THE SYSTEM'S PICKING IT UP. I TRY AND GO THROUGH THAT TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE DONE RIGHT, BUT EXCELLENT REPORT. OTHER QUESTIONS OF, UH, NOT, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ACCEPT HER REPORT AS PRESENTED. SO MAY ACCEPT HER REPORT. COMMISSIONER, UH, CLARK MAKES THAT MOTION. SECOND COMMANDING SAYS, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. THOSE OPPOSED. THANK YOU KATHY. ITEM NUMBER EIGHT IS FROM LORETTA WILLIAMS. UH, SHE CALLED THIS MORNING AND WAS NOT GONNA BE ABLE HERE TO PERSONALLY PRESENT HER REPORTS. SHE HAD A, A STAFF SHORTAGE. UH, ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUE I I THINK WE COULD GO AHEAD AND APPROVE THE REPORT WITHOUT HER PERSONALLY GIVING IT, UNLESS SOMEBODY HAS A REASON THAT THEY WOULD LIKE FOR HER COME BACK AT OUR NEXT MEETING AND PRESENT THAT LIKE THE NUMBER PREPARED. CONSISTENT. ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE REPORT FROM LORETTA? MOTION? SHANE MAKES THAT MOTION TO SECOND MR. MAN SECONDS. ANY OTHER DISCUSSIONS? I JUST HAVE ONE QUESTION. ARE THE EMPLOYEES AT THE CHILDREN'S SHELTER? ARE THEY, IT SAYS SHE'S EXPECT EXPERIENCING A LITTLE DIFFICULTY MANAGING NEW TIME SYSTEM. ARE THEY EXEMPT EMPLOYEE BY CHANCE BY NO, I DON'T. NO. NO, THERE ARE NOT. THAT'S ALL. OKAY. OTHER QUESTIONS. HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE. WE ALL IN FAVOR? ITEM NUMBER NINE, MC DONE. ITEM NUMBER 10, MS. COOPER, WE'RE GONNA TAKE A, THERE SHOULD BE AN EXTRA ON THERE. YOU ALL RIGHT? UH, WE'RE FIVE MINUTES INTO THE BUDGET BECAUSE THIS IS AS OF FEBRUARY 28TH, 2014. YOUR, UM, BUDGET SHOULD BE AT A BENCHMARK OF ABOUT 41.7%. UH, GENERAL FUND REVENUES WERE AT 78.19, ALMOST 78.2%. YOUR EXPENDITURES FOR YOUR GENERAL FUND ARE RIGHT UNDER 40%, WHICH IS PRETTY EXCELLENT THAT EVERYBODY'S STAYING WITHIN THEIR BUDGET AND WATCHING EVERYTHING CLOSELY. THEN YOU HAVE YOUR ROAD AND BRIDGE. YOUR REVENUES ARE AT 72.9, [01:20:02] EXPENDITURES ARE AT 68.8 AND THE INDIVIDUAL ROAD AND BRIDGE FUNDS ARE AT 56 REVENUES AND YOUR EXPENDITURES ARE AT ALMOST 27%. DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THE REVENUE ON THE FIRST PAGE? UH, WHERE IT TALKS ABOUT THE, UH, OFFICIAL FEES? IS THAT WHERE THE JP UH, FINES AND FEES ARE? YES, SIR. OKAY. OTHER FEES WOULD INCLUDE, UM, THE DIFFERENT OFFICIAL FEES LIKE CONSTABLES, UM, ANYTHING THAT COME IN FROM THE STATE, LIKE FOR, UM, THE SUPPLEMENTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. OKAY. WE'RE, WE'RE PRETTY LOADED THERE, BUT I GUESS, SO ON THE LAST PAGE UNDER EXPENDITURES, OUR BENCHMARK TOTAL FOR THE TOTAL PRECINCTS IS 26.89 AND WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE AT 0.417. YES SIR. SO WE'RE SUBSTANTIALLY BELOW OUR EXPENDITURE. YES. OKAY. AND WE SHOULD MENTION PROBABLY WHILE WE'RE DISCUSSING THIS, WE WILL RECEIVE THE BOND FUNDS TOMORROW, UH, WILL COME IN AND THE, UH, DISTRIBUTION OF THE MONIES THAT YOU'LL GET, KAREN I BELIEVE WILL BE DISTRIBUTED, UH, THE $400,000 THAT EACH PRECINCT WILL RECEIVE, THAT WILL BE DISTRIBUTED SOON. YES SIR. IT'S GONNA BE IN THAT BOND FUND. WELL, THATS WHAT I MEAN. BRIDGE. IT'LL BE TRANS, THERE'LL BE A LINE ITEM FOR THE, FOR THE FOUR COMMISSIONERS TO HAVE RIGHT BY PRECINCT BEFORE. HMM. OKAY. AND WE'LL NEED TO, UH, LET MR. PETMAN KNOW NOT TO TRANSFER ALL THAT OUT BECAUSE THE BANK CAN'T HOLD THAT MONEY FOR US. WE HAVE TO SEND IT TO TO GET IT OUT OF THE BANK BECAUSE IT'S GONNA BE GETTING THERE IN THE MORNING AS SOON AS THAT SALE GOES THROUGH. OKAY. SO WE'VE ALREADY SET UP THE ACCOUNTS, THE DEBT SERVICE FOR IT. 'CAUSE THERE'S SOME MONEY COMING TO HELP PAY THE, THE NEXT INTEREST PAYMENT THE WAY IT WAS STRUCTURED AND THEN, UM, HE CAN TRANSFER SOME BACK IF THEY NEED TO SPEND ANY OF THAT ON THE ROAD BRIDGE. WHEN WE START SPENDING THAT, ARE WE GOING HAVE CREATED NEW LINE ITEMS SINCE THAT IS FOR MATERIALS ON THEM? YEAH, I'LL PUT IT, I'LL PUT IT DOWN THERE IN ANOTHER LITTLE BOX FOR YOU SO WE CAN, BECAUSE THAT'S GONNA BE WATCHED REAL CLOSELY. IT HAS TO BE USED FOR ROAD MATERIALS BECAUSE BY THE BOND COVENANT THAT TOOK, THAT WAS WRITTEN UP, I HAVE TO KEEP IT SEPARATELY AND ACCOUNT FOR IN DIFFERENT LINE ITEMS FOR EACH PROJECT. SO WE'LL MAKE A, WE'LL MAKE THAT ONE BIG LINE ITEM LIKE WAS REQUESTED OR SUGGESTED THAT WE DO. THEN AS WE DO THOSE PROJECTS, WE'LL START MOVING THE MONEY DOWN. WELL AREN'T GONNA BE FOR SPECIFIC PROJECTS. YES, SIR. I KNOW THAT YOU WILL HAVE YOUR LINE ITEMS, I PROMISE. WELL, I NOT YEAH, BOND YOU HAVE LIKE, UH, 16, 17 PROJECTS THAT Y'ALL HAD. NOW THAT'S DIFFERENT. YEAH, THAT'S PROTECT, YEAH, THAT'S THE C THAT'S C NO, NO. YOU'VE GOT 16 PROJECTS IN THAT PROJECT. YEAH, THAT 56 MILLION BOND ISSUE. WE'RE NOT GONNA CREATE ALL THOSE LINE ITEMS UNTIL YOU ACTUALLY MOVE INTO THOSE PROJECTS AND THEN WE'LL DO TRANSFERS FROM THAT ONE BIG TO THOSE LINE ITEMS. BUT THEN Y'ALL'S PORTION WILL BE BROUGHT DOWN IN ANOTHER DEPARTMENT WITHIN THAT FUND AND IT'LL HAVE YOUR MONEY SET ASIDE THAT, AND THEN IT'LL BE ON THIS REPORT EVERY MONTH FOR YOU. THE C TURS MONEY THAT WE GET, ARE YOU GOING TO USE THE SAME RECEIPT? YES SIR. I HAVE TO PUT THAT IN A SEPARATE FUND. OKAY. BY THE WAY, WE DID SEND ALL THAT OFF AND SO HOPEFULLY WE'LL BE GETTING SOME WORD IN THE NEXT 30 DAYS ABOUT THE APPROVAL OF THOSE FUNDS. I HAVE A QUESTION. YOU KNOW, WE PUT, UH, IN OUR DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THE USE OF THE BOND MONEY WHENEVER WE, UH, DO A ROAD PROJECT, WE TALKED ABOUT PUTTING UP SIGNS. YES, SIR. YOU KNOW, THAT SAYS YOUR BOND MONEY DOLLARS AT WORK OR WHAT HAVE YOU, UH, I KNOW THIS IS NITPICKING, BUT ARE WE GOING TO TAKE THAT MONEY OUT OF THAT BOND MONEY TO HAVE SOME SIGNS MADE OR, OR HEY, HOW ARE WE GONNA DO THAT? UM, I, I WOULD HATE, I THINK JUDGE WOOD TELL ME THAT THAT WOULD BE TAKEN OUT IN YOUR EACH PRECINCT STABLE, BUT WE HAVEN'T DISCUSSED, WE HAVEN'T DISCUSSED THAT. THE MATERIALS, YEAH, I DON'T THINK THAT THAT BOND COVENANT'S GONNA ALLOW ME FIVE SIGNS. [01:25:01] I WOULDN'T BE DOING MY DUE DILIGENCE IF I DIDN'T, DIDN'T PICK ON SOMETHING A LITTLE BIT. WELL, I I UNDERSTAND THAT I HAD, UH, I I DIDN'T REMEMBER EVEN HAVING THAT DISCUSSION. I WAS JUST KIDDING. THAT'S ONE, THAT'S AN OLD SAYING JUST MADE UP. OKAY. JUDGE WOULD SAY ANY MORE QUESTIONS ON THE I ALL WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER CLARK. SECOND. WE HAVE A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER. UH, MANNY. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. A THOSE OPPOSED ITEM NUMBER 10 11, EXCUSE ME, IS TO CONSIDER, UH, APPROVAL OF APPROVING A PROJECT AGREEMENT FOR ROAD REPAIRS IN THE CITY OF BOULDER BRIDGE, KA COUNTY PRECINCT. UH, NUMBER ONE COMMISSIONER LIK, UH, YES, YOUR HONOR, OUR LOCAL AGREEMENT WITH OAKRIDGE, THEY'RE REQUESTING SOME HELP ON COUNTY 1 38 AND UH, THAT'S WHAT THE PROJECT IS. OKAY. UH, ALREADY BEEN CLEARED BY THE MAYOR. OKAY. DO YOU HAVE A, YOU WANNA PUT THAT FORM? MOTION? YES SIR. WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER. RESOLVED THAT. SECOND. SECOND. SHANE SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. THOSE OPPOSED? ITEM NUMBER 12 IS TO DISCUSS, CONSIDER SETTING A PUBLIC HEARING AND PUBLISH A NOTICE REGARDING A NO THROUGH COMMERCIAL TRUCK ZONE SIGN ON IRON ROAD. KAUFMAN COUNTY PRECINCT ONE COMMISSIONER? UH, YES SIR. WE HAVE A PROBLEM WITH, UH, TRAFFIC COMING OFF OF I 20 WHEN THE SCALES ARE OPEN. UH, THE FIVE 12 AND CIRCUMVENTING THE SCALES. AND, UH, WE ALSO HAD A PROBLEM WITH THE WRECKS DURING THE HIGH STORM. THEY WERE DOING THE SAME THING. WE'RE GETTING A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF DAMAGE. IF WE COULD GO THROUGH THE PROCESS OF POSTING ON NOTICE WHERE WE NEED TO DO LEGALLY, WE PUT A CO ENFORCE, THAT WOULD BE GREAT. THAT'D REALLY SAVE LONG. I THINK WE HAVE 30 DAYS IS HERE. YOU HAVE, YOU CAN'T HAVE FROM 30 TO SEVEN DAYS. OKAY. LIKE IT HAS TO BE NO LESS OR NO MORE THAN 30 DAYS FROM THE DAY, BUT NO LESS. OKAY, SO WE'LL GET, GIMME, GIMME A LOCATION OF, IT'S BEEN A WHILE SINCE I'VE BEEN OVER THERE. IS HI ROAD. THE ONE THAT RUNS ALL THE WAY IN THROUGH WILLS POINT. NO, IT COMES OFF IT GOES SOUTH. IT GOES SOUTH, COMES OFF OF I 20 THERE WHERE THE MCDONALD'S TRUCK STOP IS AND IT, IT LOOPS AROUND AND THEN, UH, UH, IT CONTINUES ON UNTIL IT EXITS COLMAN COUNTY AND BECOMES A FAN COUNTY ROAD. THAT'S THE LAST COUNTY ROAD, LAST COUNTY ROAD TO THE EAST BECAUSE IT, IT DEAD COUNTY LAKE. I KNOW WHERE IT IS DOWN THERE. IT'S PERFECT. I THOUGHT IT WAS DEAD END DOWN THERE. NO, IT, IT LOOKS ROUND AND, OH YEAH. OKAY. ALRIGHT. OKAY. MAKE A MOTION THAT WE SET PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE ROAD CO COMMISSIONER. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. A AND THEN ITEM NUMBER 13 IS TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER SETTING A PUBLIC HEARING AND PUBLISHING NOTICE REGARDING A NO PROOF COMMERCIAL TRUCK ZONE TRAFFIC TRAFFIC TRUCK ZONE SIGN ON CALL COUNTY PRECINCT NUMBER TWO. MR. CLARK, APPRECIATE NUMBER ONE AND RAVEN ASKING ME TO PUT THIS ON THE AGENDA. SO I'LL, WE SET PUBLIC HEARING AND REGARD, IS IT IN NUMBER ONE OR TWO? IT'S DIVIDED. JUST DI DIVIDED 21. OKAY, SO Y'ALL ARE, OKAY, SO WE HAVE A MOTION YOU CAN PUT THAT IN THE FORM OF MOTION. YES. SECOND DISCUSSION. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE GENTLEMEN, LET'S TAKE A QUICK BREAK AND THEN WE'LL COME BACK AND FINISH UP. FIRST ITEM ON THE AGENDA, THE, UH, TANYA ACTUALLY SENT OVER A CORRECTED TAX, UH, COLLECTION AND INSTEAD OF THE ROLLBACK TAXES, THE AMOUNT THAT WAS LISTED, WHAT, A HUNDRED SOME THOUSAND, UH, THAT WAS FOR ALL THE TAXING ENTITIES AND SO OUR SHARE IS NOW 24,000 3 98, BUT YOU GUYS DID PICK UP $3,000 IN YOUR ROAD BRIDGE TO BE DISTRIBUTED. SO ANYWAY, IT SHOWS THERE AT BOTTOM. [01:30:01] IT'S KIND OF INTERESTING TO KEEP UP WITH THAT JUST TO SEE WHAT, WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE. SO, UH, ITEM NUMBER, UH, 14 IS TO DISCUSS LINE ITEMS. TRANSFER. WE HAVE THAT. I NOTICED WHERE I NEEDED TO LOSE 15. IT LOOKED LIKE I'VE BEEN READING TOO MUCH. OH, THEY'RE MINOR. YEAH. SO WE'LL UH, PASS THIS AROUND FOR Y'ALL TO ASSIGN IT THROUGH. UM, ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT ANY OF THOSE DRAFT FIRST? WAIT A MINUTE. YOU GOT MORE HAD TWO. I KNOW THAT YOU'RE GETTING SOMETHING ELSE. JUST ME. EXCUSE ME. THAT'S OKAY. I JUST WANT TO MAKE YOU AWARE OF THIS. THIS IS WHAT WE HAD TALKED ABOUT IN THE AGREEMENT COMMISSIONER SCORE. THIS WAS THE, UH, FIRST SECTION HAS TO DO WITH THE INDIGENT DEFENSE GRANT, THE OVER AND ABOVE MOUNT THAT WE GOT NOTICE OF AND THE MONEY THAT WE SAVED ON WORKERS' COMP AND WE ADDED IT TO THAT CONTINGENCY OF 119,405. THEN, UH, FEBRUARY 10TH, 422ND JUDICIAL, UH, DISTRICT JUDGE MIKE CHITTY ASKED FOR, UH, TO INCREASE SOME, SOME THINGS IN HIS SALARY LINE ITEMS AND UH, THAT'S THE THIRD SECTION WAS THE $14,000 TO TAKE HIS PART-TIME COURT, COURT COURT COORDINATOR UP TO FULL TIME DURING THE MURDERS. THEN THE LAST REQUEST WAS FROM THE DA FOR A FELONY ATTORNEY AND A SECRETARY OF THE 78,288. THE SECOND ONE WAS THE SAVINGS ON THE ONE TIME PAYMENT THAT SOME OF THE DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS, THOSE EMPLOYEES WERE NOT NEW OR HAD NOT BEEN HERE LONG ENOUGH. THE POSITION WAS EMPTY. SO WE SAVED $10,800. SO I ADDED 119,000 TO CONTINGENCY 10,800 TO CONTINGENCY. THEN I TOOK 14,747 AND 78,288 LIKE WE AGREED UPON. STILL ADDED TO THE CONTINGENCY, BUT I WANTED TO MAKE IT THIS WAY SO TO BE A PAPER TRAIL. RIGHT. AND BEHIND IT, I HAVE THE MINUTES ATTACHED AND I THINK IT'S ON PAGE THREE THAT YOU, UH, APPROVE THAT. NO. PAGE TWO, SORRY. SO, UM, IT IS ITEM NINE AND ITEM 10 AND I DON'T NEED YOUR SIGNATURE UNLESS YOU JUST WANNA PUT IT ON THERE. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU KNEW I GOT THESE DONE. SO WE'VE ACTUALLY ALREADY APPROVED THIS. YES, IT IS JUST, IT JUST, BUT IT WAS VERBAL AND IT WASN'T DONE RIGHT IN THE FORMAT THAT WE USUALLY DO IT. JUST MEMORIALIZES DOCUMENT ANY QUESTIONS FROM ANYBODY ON THAT? I'LL STEP BY MY ORIGINAL MOTION TO APPROVE THE LINE ITEM TRANSFERS. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. A MOTION TO APPROVE THE LINE ITEM TRANSFERS. AND A SECOND, UH, MOTION BY COMMISSIONER, UH, LAUREN. SECOND BY COMMISSIONER MANNING. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. THOSE OPPOSED. ITEM NUMBER 15 IS TO DISCUSS, CONSIDER CLAIM FOR PAY. ALRIGHT. CLAIMS FOR PAYMENT, UH, FOR THIS COURT IS 1,000,300 $69,315 AND 3 CENTS. LET COMMISSIONER, I GUESS WHEN I PRINTED IT ONE LARGE [01:35:03] ON THE JP INFORMATION. THAT'S S IT'S JUST HE HADN'T, HE HADN'T FINISHED IT. HE, HE CALLED ME AND HE'S GETTING SOME OTHER, AND UH, THE ISSUE IS THAT LAST TIME WE TALKED THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE, NOT SO THAT ON THE AUTOPSY Y'ALL TALKING ABOUT THAT WAS QUESTION. I NO, IT'S THE, IT'S ACCORDING TO THE TYPE THAT THEY ARE. COURT DO WHAT COURT? UH, YES, THAT WAS FOR CIVIL CASE ORDERED. IT WAS TWO FULL DAYS AND ONE HALF DAY. SEE ANY ON WHAT YOU JUST SAID? WHAT CAUSES WHAT, WHAT'S, WHAT'S THE TRIGGER FOR SPECIAL IS THIS GIRL OVER IN THE ROCK WALL? I HAVE NO IDEA IF YOU GOT IT ON HERE, I'LL SHOW IT TO YOU. YOU INCLUDED IT ON HERE. YOU MIGHT PUT YES, I THINK IT NO IT WASN'T IN THERE. YES. YES. STATE OF TEXAS VERSUS JUDGE QUESTION. JUST FOR WHAT TRIGGER SPECIAL. I THINK THIS IS WHY, BUT IT STATE OF TEXAS FAR HE WAS SO SOME SORT OF AN ISSUE THAT HE HAD TO GO AND IT'S FOR DOCKET. IT WASN'T USUALLY THAT'S [01:40:05] YEAH, BUT UH, COULD BE GUESS WHAT HE'S SAYING. CALL. I GOT A COUPLE OF PACKETS. ASPHALT FOUR VEHICLES FROM THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE. I SAY SHOT. OKAY. WELL IT JUST DEPENDS ON HOW I GET, I GET BACK THE AUDITORS FIELD OFFICERS ARE THERE. AND WHAT IS THIS MISSION CRITICAL? YEAH, WE PROBABLY CHANGED THE NAME MISSION CRITICAL. IT'S REALLY OUR REGIONAL CALL CENTER. YEAH. HAVE YOU MADE ME A NOTE TO CHANGE THE NAME ON THAT MISSION? CRITICAL. [01:45:04] THAT'S WHY I GET YOU, YOU DIDN'T HAVE TO DO THAT. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEET. I'M SORRY, WHAT DID YOU SAY? HOSTING IT THAT CALL FROM COUNTY LEADERSHIP TO COUNCIL SUBJECT 25,000 ARE GONNA BE THAT CUSTOM. I GOT A GUY WORKS FOR THAT'S DOING, I BORROWED 35. [01:50:16] DO THAT. YOU'LL I GET THOSE. I DIDN'T KNOW IF COPIES THOSE. OKAY. YEAH. WE'RE BEGINNING 51,000 MAYBE WE TRY TO STANDARDIZE THOSE SIGNS, YOU KNOW, SO WE'D ALL HAVE A BETTER PRICE. I WOULD THINK ABOUT USING TO SAVE LITTLE MONEY JUST BY FOUR AND THEN MOVE AROUND. YEAH. SIZE. SOMEBODY WILL TAKE THE ON DOING THAT. OKAY. AND WE NEED TO COME UP WITH WORDING. Y'ALL AIN'T YEAH, I, I THINK, UH, OKAY. AND IT MAY BE FOUR. I'LL GET THE PICTURE OF [01:55:01] HE'S GONNA GET THE WORDING. AND THEN WHAT DO YOU THINK, HOW MANY YOU DO FOR PRECINCT TWO FOR PRECINCT ON THE BIG PROJECT? 1137. 1138. JUST WHAT I MEAN WE NEED TO DO THAT. I JUST GOT DONE READING OVER. IT'S UM, BRANDON, YOU EVER HAVE A CHANCE YOU SHOULD READ ANYTHING BY ANYTHING. IT'S ALL FANTASY SIDE BY THIS IS BUDGET SYSTEM WORKS EXPLAINED. ALL RIGHT. DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE BILL FOR PAPER MOTION BY NOT A COMOTION, BUT A MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER ME TO APPROVE THE CLAIM FOR PAYMENT. SECOND. SECOND. COMMISSIONER SHANE SECONDS. MOTION. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. UH, THOSE ITEM NUMBER 16. ADJOURN REGULAR MEETING. COMMISSIONER AND COMMISSIONER. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. A. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.