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UH, WE'LL HAVE OUR INVITATION JUST IN A MOMENT BY COMMISSIONER ROSALE AND WELL AS WE'LL FOLLOW WITH THE, UH, LEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE FOR BOTH THE AMERICAN FLAG AND TEXAS FLAG.
IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE COURT, THERE'S SOME FORMS OVER BY ON THE TABLE THERE THAT WE WOULD ASK YOU TO, UH, FILL OUT.
AND THEN WE WOULD, UH, ASK YOU TO COME FORWARD, UH, HERE IN JUST A FEW MOMENTS, UH, BEFORE WE START OUR REGULAR, UH, MEETING.
AND, UH, YOU'D HAVE THREE MINUTES TO ADDRESS THE COURT.
SO WE APPRECIATE, UH, EVERYONE BEING HERE.
SO IF YOU WOULD, LET'S GO AHEAD AND STAND.
LORD, THANK YOU FOR THIS BEAUTIFUL DAY.
AND WE'VE HAD SO OUR COUNTY AND GIVE US GROWTH AND ENTHUSIASM FOR THE SPRING SEASON COMING UP.
WE ASK FOR YOUR GUIDANCE AND WISDOM TODAY AS WE GATHER HERE TO DO THE COUNTY'S BUSINESS.
UH, WE ASK THAT YOU, UH, GIVE US THE STRENGTH, WISDOM TO MAKE THE RIGHT DECISIONS FOR OUR COUNTY, OUR CONSTITUENTS.
AND AS YOU LOOK OVER ALL OF OUR COUNTY EMPLOYEES AND, UH, DEPARTMENT HEADS THAT WORK SO HARD EVERY DAY TO MAKE THIS A BETTER PLACE FOR US TO LIVE.
AND AS ALWAYS, WE ASK FOR THE SAFE RETURN OUR WARRIORS AND OF, AND ASK, LOOK OVER OUR FIRST RESPONDERS AND MILITARY POLICE PERSONNEL.
JESUS OF UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND REPUBLIC FOR STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE.
HONOR, HONOR, TEXAS FLAG I ALLEGIANCE OF THE MEETING, TEXAS ONE, ONE, SAY UNDER GOD, ONE IN INDIVISIBLE, NO ONE.
OKAY, NO ONE SIGNED UP TO ADDRESS THE COURT.
SO WE'LL GO AHEAD AND BEGIN THE, UH, REGULAR MEETING.
AND AGAIN, THANKS TO EVERYONE BEING HERE THIS MORNING.
UH, WE HAVE SEVERAL ITEMS ON THE, UH, CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS. ITEM IS SUB TWO THROUGH A THROUGHOUT, AND THAT WOULD INCLUDE DISCUSS, CONSIDER ACCEPTING THE FINANCIAL STATEMENT FOR ESD, DISTRICT NUMBER SEVEN.
ITEM B IS TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER PROCLAIMING THE MONTH OF APRIL, 2014 IS CHILD ABUSE PREVENTION OF AWARENESS MONTH AND KAMAN COUNTY ITEM C IS DISCUSSED AND CONSIDER APPROVAL OF TAX RESALE PREFERENCE NUMBER A ONE SEVENTY EIGHT.
CALL 6 8 9 4 180 6, UH, DESCRIBED AS BEING IN THE JD TAYLOR SURVEY, UH, LOCATED AT 1 54 THUNDER ROAD, KAUFFMAN COUNTY PRECINCT THREE.
UH, ALSO ITEM D IS TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER APPROVAL OF TAX RESALE REFERENCE A TWO EIGHT SUIT COVERS NUMBER 8 0 0 6 6 8 6, DESCRIBED AS SLEEPY HOLLAND MEADOWS, LOT 30 LS UH, ADDRESS, UH, 1 0 7 0 9 SLEEPY HOLLAND COFFMAN COUNTY PRECINCT THREE.
AND ITEM E IS TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER APPROVING REQUEST FOR EMBARK TO INSTALL A VARIED COMMUNICATIONS, UH, PROPER, UH, LINE ALONG THE RIGHT OF WAY, COUNTY ROAD BLUEBIRD LANE IN CALIN COUNTY PRECINCT ONE.
AND THEN ITEM F IS TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER APPROVING A BOND AND OATH OF DANIEL PAUL HUTCHINSON, A EXECUTIVE CONSTABLE FOR PRECINCT ONE, UH, COMMISSION.
DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT ANY OF THOSE ITEMS THAT ARE LISTED HERE? YES, I, I WOULD LIKE TO C.
WE WILL JUST PULL THOSE FROM THE AGENDA, UH, AND WE'LL NOT APPROVE THOSE WHENEVER WE, UH, HAVE THE OTHER, UH, ITEM.
I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A COMMENT ON ITEM B.
UH, THIS IS CHILD ABUSE PREVENTION MONTH.
AND ON THIS THURSDAY AT, UH, 12, NO, WE WILL BE A BALLOON RELEASE IN FRONT OF THE COURTHOUSE AND WE WILL, UH, READ THIS PROCLAMATION AND THIS WILL BE FOR THE CASA VOLUNTEERS THAT WE HAVE.
AND SO IF YOU'RE AVAILABLE OR YOU CAN, UH, COME PARTICIPATE, IT NORMALLY ONLY LASTS JUST A FEW MINUTES, BUT IT IS A VERY NICE, UH, CEREMONY AND, UH, WE GENERALLY HAVE, UH, GOOD TURNOUT FOLKS THAT, UH, ATTEND.
IF BY CHANCE IT'S RAIN, WE'LL PROBABLY MOVE INSIDE THE COURTHOUSE.
LET'S HOPEFULLY HAVE THAT PROBLEM, BUT IF NOT, WE'LL BE OUT IN FRONT OF THE COURTHOUSE.
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ITEMS, UH, ANY OTHER DISCUSSIONS? THE ONLY THING I'D LIKE TO, UH, ON THIS AROUND EMBARK TO PUT THE TABLE, IT HAS A PLACE ON THERE FOR A CONTACT NAME TO, FOR THEM TO CONTACT 48 ADAM PRIOR TO INSTALLING, UH, MAKE SURE MY NAME IS OKAY.UH, WE WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEMS, UH, A AND B AND E AND L.
CAN ANYBODY HERE TO MAKE THAT MOTION? MR. SHANE MAKES THAT MOTION.
ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
A, THOSE ITEM NUMBER THREE IS JOHNNY COUNTRYMAN TO GIVE A REPORT ON THE S REPORT FEBRUARY 20, AND I BELIEVE WE HAD A COPY OF THAT ON THE TABLE WHEN THIS DRAWING ABOUT 5% INTEREST ON FIVE SIX.
ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, UH, FOR THE, UH, TREASURER? IF NOT, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND MOVE INTO ITEM NUMBER FOUR.
UH, THAT IS, UH, ALSO BY THE, UH, BY THE, UH, TREASURER TO REVIEW DISPOSITION OF THE, I JUST WANTED TO TELL Y'ALL THAT 30 MILLION OF THAT 900,000 JUDGE YES.
DID YOU GIVE THE PERSON SECOND? IT DIDN'T REQUIRE THAT.
JUST, UH, HE WAS JUST PRESENTING IT.
THE $9,000 THAT WE RECEIVED, I PUT THE WHOLE THING SEPARATE.
I, I DIDN'T KNOW THAT THE GUY WE MET WITH RIGHT AT THAT, HE TOLD US THAT AT SOME POINT IN TIME HE'D BE ABLE TELL ME WHERE WOULD YOU NEED THE MONEY? HE SAID IF SOME THIS MONEY MAY, WHAT? THAT HAPPENED, LOSE MONEY.
I THINK JOHNNY, HE WILL BE GIVEN A, WE'LL HAVE SOMEWHAT OF A CALENDAR AS THESE PROJECTS COME ONLINE.
I THEY NEED TO TURN 18 MONTHS MAYBE THAT SOME OF THAT MONEY MIGHT NOT USED FOR 18 MONTHS.
YEAH, SOME OF THEM MAY BE LONGER THAN THAT.
TELL THAT 470 INTEREST MONEY THAT WOULD BE PAID AND, UH, IT, IT'S 15 INTEREST 12 JUST STATED THE I, YES.
5 78 80 AND THE MONEY FROM THE SCHOOL TO LAND THE 900,000 THAT'S IN A SEPARATE ACCOUNT.
AND I THINK IT'S OUR INTENT, EVEN THOUGH WE'VE NOT OFFICIALLY VOTED ON IT, WE'VE JUST PUT THAT MONEY, JUST SET IT ASIDE AND IT'LL NOT KIND OF BE OUR, ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR JOHNNY? THE EXCEPTION OF THE MONEY THAT GOES FUNDS THAT, THAT WE TALKED ABOUT.
EVERY CONTRACT WILL BE APPROVED THROUGH COURT BEFORE WE INITIATE ANY MONEY TO THE CITY.
SO YOU'LL HAVE SEVERAL, SEVERAL WEEKS NOTICE BEFORE MONEY HAS TO BE MOVED AROUND, RIGHT, BECAUSE THE CONTRACT HAVE COME THROUGH THE COURT, GET APPROVED, RETURN AROUND TO REIMBURSE.
BUT KAREN I DISCUSSED WAS SHE'LL, SHE ACTUALLY HER FIRST TO HER TO PREPARE CHECKS, BUT SHE CAN TELL ME AGAIN.
THURSDAY WE TRANSFERRED FRIDAY, I'LL JUST HAVE TO COME THROUGH THE COURT.
SO IT'LL BE TWICE A MONTH THEN WE'LL APPROVE IT.
SO, BUT WE'LL HAVE A CONTRACT VERY NOTICE, RETRIEVE SOME OF THE MONEY AND THAT.
AND THAT'S WHAT WE SAID WE WOULD DO DURING, WE HAD, WHEN WE HAD THE ELECTION THAT THE COMMISSIONER COURT APPROVE ALL THOSE FUNDS, FUNDS OF COMMISSIONER, COURT OF COUNTIES WORK.
ITEM NUMBER, UH, FIVE IS TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER SETTING DATES FOR COUNTYWIDE CLEANUP.
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COMMISSIONER LIK, I THINK HAS HAD SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT, THE DATES SPECIFICALLY.AND SO WE PUT THAT ON THE AGENDA.
I BELIEVE TRADITIONALLY IT HAS BEEN OUR, UH, WHAT WE'VE DONE IN THE PAST WHERE WE'VE TRIED TO HAVE IT THE WEEK BEFORE MOTHER'S DAY, AND SO THAT WOULD BE MAY THE SECOND AND THIRD.
I A LOT OF INQUIRIES BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE PREPARING TO DO THAT.
WELL, UH, I'LL GIVE YOU TIME TO BID IT OUT AND YOU MAY HAVE TO, UH, UH, HAVE A SPECIAL MEETING POSSIBLY, BUT, OKAY.
JUST KEEP IN MIND, WE'VE HAD TROUBLE, YOU BEEN LESS INTERESTED HERE LATELY ON THAT, SO WONDER WHY? I DUNNO.
WELL, I THINK PART OF IT, WHAT I UNDERSTAND IS THAT THE OVERTIME 40 HOURS, BUT FOR CONVENIENCE OF THE PUBLIC, YOU ALMOST HAVE TO HAVE IT ON A SATURDAY OR, YOU KNOW, SHOW PEOPLE WHEN THEY'RE OFF WORK AT AT LEAST ONE WEEKEND.
AND ANOTHER ONE OF THE BIG PROBLEMS IS, YOU KNOW, BUYING EACH OTHER OUT ABOUT SIX COMPANIES.
CAN YOU GIVE US AN UPDATE OF THAT? DID WE EVER RUN INTO A, UH, AN ISSUE WHERE THERE'S A FRANCHISE WITH A CERTAIN CITY AND WE USED SOMEBODY ELSE? WE HAVE, WE HAD THREE GOODS IN PAST.
SHOW, SHOW UP AND THEN, UH, THEY'LL MENTION THAT THEY CAN'T BID ON OR THEY CAN'T BID ON, HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH, BUT THEY PRETTY MUCH EACH OTHER.
ERRITORY IT'S A UNIQUE GROUP OF FOLKS.
THEY, ANOTHER THAT COULD BE ONE ISSUE.
YOU'RE RESTRICTED IN MOST AREAS BY WHO CAN SEPARATE CONTRACT.
I THINK IT APPLIES TO CLEANUP, BUT IF YOU HAVE COME IN HERE AS AN INDIVIDUAL, YOU CAN'T COME IN, USE SOMEBODY ELSE.
CITY USE TO RESIDENTIAL, WHATEVER.
I DON'T, I DON'T SEE THE PROBLEM IN THE COUNTY, NOT MAKE IT HAPPEN.
OKAY, GENTLEMEN, WHAT'S YOUR PLEASURE? I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO BE SET.
MAY 2ND AND THIRD IS, ALRIGHT, WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER ROSA TO MAKE, UH, MAY THE SECOND, THIRD THE OFFICIAL CLEANUP DAYS, SECONDING SECOND.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ITEM NUMBER SIX, JUDGE? YES.
UH, IF I COULD GET A, A, UH, NUMBER OF LOCATIONS WE'RE GOING HAVE AND THE LOCATION SO WE CAN GET THE WORK CREW LINED UP.
AS SOON AS Y'ALL CAN GET TO, YOU KNOW, HOW, HOW MANY PLACES WE'RE GOING HAVE AND ONE.
ALRIGHT, JACK, YOU WANNA COORDINATE THAT OR? WELL, I, I THINK PROBABLY COMMISSIONER, BUT I'LL LET, LET THE GET A LIST.
I'M ASSUMING THAT EVERYTHING SAME LAST, IT'LL BE I'LL COPY.
ITEM NUMBER SIX IS TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER A PROJECT AGREEMENT FOR THE CITY OF NY TO PREPARE READER ROAD FROM READER LANE 1500 FEET SOUTH TO GATEWAY.
I BELIEVE YOU HAVE THE DOCUMENTATION.
THIS IS SECTION OF THE, OF THE CITY ROAD THAT NEEDS BE CONNECTED.
THE TRAFFIC, ALL THE RESIDE RESIDENTIAL AREAS THAT IN THERE PROJECT $56,000.
THAT'S GONNA BE LIKE MOST ESTIMATES ARE USE, UH, PAVING PART THAT'S PROBABLY A LITTLE BIT HIGH BUILDING WAS DONE ACTUAL ON INCREASE LIKE THAT.
SO IT GIVE YOU A PRICE LESS THAN THAT.
THEY'LL ONLY BILL THE SUPPORT FOR THE DALLAS COUNTY CONTRACT ON THE ACTUAL THAT'S USED ON THAT ROAD.
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BE AWARE THAT THE PRICE OF THAT WILL PROBABLY THE INVOICE, INVOICE THE CITY WOULD BE LESS THAN THAT.THAT WOULD BE THE MAXIMUM COST.
AND I MOVE, WE APPROVE THE PROJECT.
YOU HAVE A COPY OF THE PROJECT'S AGREEMENT AND A MOTION FOR MR. CLARK.
DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND THAT ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY, ITEM NUMBER SEVEN IS TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ENTERING INTO A CONTRACT WITH CLIMATE TECH BUILDINGS AND TECHNOLOGY FOR INSTALLATION OF A-H-V-A-C BUILDING MANAGEMENT SYSTEM.
JACK HAS THE INFORMATION ON THAT, POSSIBLY YOU HAVE SOME INFORMATION, UH, TACTIC.
THIS APPLIES ONLY TO THE MAIN COURTHOUSE.
THIS APPLIES TO NO OTHER FACILITY.
I'M SURE YOU'RE AWARE THAT, UH, UH, WE'VE HAD ISSUES IN THE COURTHOUSE SOMETIME, UH, WHILE WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, PRETTY EQUIPMENT FOR, UH, THERE HAVE BEEN A CONTROL ISSUE IN THE COURTHOUSE SOMETIMES WE KIND OF KEEP THIS AROUND FOR THE LAST COUPLE YEARS AT LEAST.
UH, 3D OR HVAC VENDOR HAS RECOMMENDED A, UH, WE GET CONTROL SYSTEM.
THE COURTHOUSE CURRENTLY, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN ONLY CONTROL EITHER THE TOP HALF OR THE BOTTOM HALF.
YOU CAN'T ACROSS CERTAIN AREAS.
SOMEONE COMES IN ON SATURDAY, SAY DA'S OFFICE,
THEY TURN ON THE AIR FLOOR AND SO ON THE HEAT TURN ON THE AC ADJUST THERE.
AND WE SOMETIMES HAVE LOOKED AT THAT, BUT DUE THE COST DO THAT, UH, REACHED OUT TO, UH, CL, WHICH IS HIS CONTRACT, ONT PN CO-OP BID OUT.
I THINK YOU'LL YOU'LL SEE THAT THE, UH, THE PAYOUT OVER SEVEN YEARS, UH, GONNA COST US 7 98 THERE 15 YEARS.
5, 9, 9 FIRST ESTIMATED 21 6 59.
THEY WENT TO ALL THE OFFICES COURTHOUSE, THEY EVALUATED RANGE COMPUTERS, LAPTOPS AND LIGHTING AND WHAT HAVE YOU AND IS WHAT THEY AN CLIMA TECH AND, UH, PREMIUM MECHANICAL HERE THIS MORNING.
IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR, UH, I'VE GOT A COUPLE QUESTIONS.
UH, IT SAYS PROGRAM TERM SEVEN YEARS.
UH, IS, IS THAT THE LIFE OF THE SYSTEM OR ARE THEY GONNA MAINTAIN THE SYSTEM FOR SEVEN YEARS IN THIS NOT MAINTAIN WHAT KIND OF UPKEEP COSTS HAVE RELATED TO THIS FOR EACH YEAR? ESTIMATE? I, I DON'T, YOU KNOW, MAY COME UP HERE.
I DON'T ANTICIPATE BUILDING SEVEN YEARS.
MORNING AS FAR AS THE EQUIPMENT, UH, GO AHEAD AND IDENTIFY YOURSELF.
I'M DANNY NER WITH MECHANICAL SERVICE COMPANY.
WE ACTUALLY MAINTAIN EQUIPMENT.
UM, AS FAR AS THE EQUIPMENT GOES, UH, THE CHILDREN OF THE BOILER, UM, THEY'RE FAIRLY NEW AND, UH, LIFE EXPECTANCY OUT OF THE, UH, THAT EQUIPMENT'S ABOUT 17 TO 20 YEARS.
UH, THE CHILDREN'S BEEN IN FOR, UH, BE THREE YEARS THIS JULY.
UH, THE BOILER'S BEEN IN FOR, I'M NOT SURE, PROBABLY ABOUT, UH, FIVE, SIX YEARS.
AND, AND THAT EQUIPMENT IS, UH, LIKE I SAID, IT'S VERY, UH, IT'S VERY UP TO DATE, ENERGY EFFICIENT.
UM, AS FAR AS EQUIPMENT INSIDE THE BUILDING, AS FAR AS THE AREA HANDLERS, UH,
UH, SO AS FAR AS REPLACEMENT OF THAT EQUIPMENT, THAT'S NOT IN THIS, UH, PACKET HERE, UH, WHAT WE ARE LOOKING AT IS BETTER CONTROLLING THAT EQUIPMENT BECAUSE RIGHT NOW, UH, THE AIR HANDLERS RUN 24 7, UM, THERE'S NO WAY TO, UH, SCHEDULE ANY OF THAT EQUIPMENT EXCEPT FOR THE CHILLER.
UM, AND, UM, THERE'S ADDITIONAL CONTROL IF WE CAN INSTALL TO BETTER MAINTAIN THAT EQUIPMENT.
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UH, AS FAR AS, UH, MAKING THE CHILLER UNLOAD WHENEVER IT'S NOT NECESSARY TO RUN FULL OUT, UH, UH, CONTROLLING THE, THE HEATING AND COOLING CHANGEOVER RIGHT NOW, UH, BASICALLY IS IT TAKES SOMEONE MANUALLY WALKING DOWN, SWITCHING SYSTEM OVER.UM, WITH THESE CONTROLS IN PLACE, WE CAN ACTUALLY NOT OVERHEAT THE BUILDING MOTORS WHEN WE'RE RUNNING THE BOILER, UH, TO MAINTAIN HEAT, UH, THE BUILDING.
AND THAT AFTERNOON MIDSEASON LIKE NOW YOU COULD POSSIBLY NEED COOLING BY TIME SOMEONE GOES DOWN THERE AND SWITCHES THE SYSTEM OVER THE, UH, HEAT'S ALREADY TAKEN OVER THE BUILDING, IT TAKES LONGER TO PULL THE BUILDING BACK DOWN.
SO WE'RE FIGHTING THE BOILER CHILLER IN THIS TIME OF SEASON BECAUSE OF THE CHANGEOVER.
UH, AS FAR AS UPKEEP OF THE CONTROL SYSTEMS, UM, WE HAVE SEVERAL OF, UH, CLIMATICS
AND THERE'S NOT A LOT OF MAINTENANCE TO THE, UH, TYPICALLY IF IT IS, UH, UH, IF THERE IS A MAINTENANCE ISSUE, SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE, UH, A PROGRAMMER, UH, IT'S SOMETHING TO DO WITH PROGRAMMING, NOT WITH THE HARDWARE THAT'S INSTALLED.
AND I'M GONNA LET ROB INTRODUCE HIMSELF AND EXPLAIN A LITTLE MORE ABOUT THIS SYSTEM.
UH, JUDGE WOOD, UH, ROB ROSENBERG.
UM, I THINK THE COMMISSIONER HAD ASKED A QUESTION ABOUT THE LIFE EXPECTANCY OF THE EQUIPMENT THAT WE'RE INSTALLING OR PROPOSED TO INSTALL.
UM, YOU'D EXPECT A MINIMUM OF 15 YEARS FOR THE BUILDING CONTROLS.
UM, ONE OF THE IMPORTANT FACTORS THAT STAFF AND JUDGE WOOD DIRECTED US WAS TO BE VERY, UM, LET'S, IN TERMS OF WHAT WE'RE PUTTING IN AND THE AMOUNT OF EQUIPMENT WE'RE TRYING TO CONTROL, GOOD HVAC, BASIC CORE, UH, BUILDING, UH, HEATING METAL IN THE AIRING SYSTEMS. SO THE CONTROLS, UM, AS YOU LOOK IN THE FUTURE, REPURPOSE THAT ALL THE THINGS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT CAN BE REUSED IF THE BUILDING IS REPURPOSED SOMEWHERE DOWN THE ROAD IN THE FUTURE, YOU KNOW, 5, 6, 7 YEARS WHEN THAT EVENT COMES.
SO, UM, THE INVESTMENT WILL LAST FOR 15 PLUS YEARS AND IT'S BASICALLY SCALABLE AND REUSABLE NOT ONLY FOR THAT FACILITY, BUT EXPANSION INTO OTHER KIND FACILITIES THAT THE FUTURE BE.
WHAT IS THE WARRANTY CONTROL OF YOUR DUTIES PHONE? TYPICALLY IT'S WHAT IS 12 MONTHS, ONE YEAR FROM DEAD INSTALLATION? WILL THIS BE INSTALLED IN A WAY THAT, LIKE EACH ROOM WILL HAVE, IT'S ON THERMOSTAT OR ANY OTHER BUILDING? HOW, HOW WILL THE CONTROL BE? WELL, I MIGHT LET DANNY TALK ABOUT IT.
MISS HE KNOWS HOW THE VAC SYSTEM IS DESIGNED.
NO, THE ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION IS NO.
UM, BASICALLY WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO IS CHANGE OUT CONTROLS THAT ARE THERE NOW THERMOSTATS THAT ARE THERE.
THE SYSTEM IS A, A PNEUMATIC SYSTEM.
PNEUMATICS BEEN OUTDATED FOR AT LEAST 20 YEARS.
UH, AND UH, BASICALLY IT TAKES SOMEONE WALKING OVER RUNNING A STAT UP OR DOWN.
UH, PROBLEM WITH THAT IS THAT YOU CHANGE THE PNEUMATIC STAT SO MANY TIMES YOU KNOCK IT OUTTA CALIBRATION.
UH, LIN COUNTY HAS NO ONE ON STAFF THAT CAN GO BACK IN AND RECALIBRATE THAT.
SO IT REQUIRES SERVICE CALLS TO, UH, HVAC PROVIDER LIKE MYSELF COME OUT AND SEND SUB RECALIBRATE SYSTEM.
WHAT WE WILL BE ABLE TO DO IS CREATE MORE COMFORT ON BUILDING, UM, BY BETTER CONTROLLING THE AIR HANDLERS.
UH, THE, THE CHILLER, THE BOILER, UH, THE SWITCHOVER LIKE I WAS TALKING ABOUT EARLIER.
UH, RIGHT NOW, BASICALLY, UH, THERE'S A THERMOSTAT FOR THE, UH, FIRST FLOOR THERMOSTAT ON THE SECOND FLOOR THAT'S IN THOSE MAIN HALLWAY CORRIDORS THAT CONTROLS THE, THE BUILDING FOR THE MOST PART.
NOW THERE ARE SOME, UH, SEPARATE ZONES LIKE THE, UH, COUPLE OF COURTROOMS HAVE THEIR OWN CONTROL.
UH, THAT WOULD BE TO, TO DO WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, UM, WOULD BE GREAT AND, AND, AND WOULD BE MOST BENEFICIAL.
UM, BUT IT IS WAY OUTSIDE THE REALM OF WHAT WE CAN PROVIDE AND DO AND HAVE THE BUYBACK OF THE SAVINGS AT THIS TIME.
IT'S NOT THAT WE COULDN'T DO THAT WORK JUST WITH THIS PLAN WAS TO GO OUT AND CHANGE EXISTING CONTROLS AND MAKE WHAT YOU HAD WORK MORE EFFICIENTLY.
AND SO IT'S NOT GONNA CHANGE THE ZONES AT ALL.
YEAH, THAT'S A LIMITATION ON THE EXISTING HVAC DUCT WORK.
AND THAT WAS ONE OF THE, THE REQUIREMENTS TO GO IN AND MAKE THE EXTENSIVE DUCT WORK REQUIREMENTS.
IT'S PROBABLY A LONGER TERM, YOU KNOW, UH, STUDY, UH, AS DANNY SAID, THE CONTROLS THAT WILL PUT IN WILL MAKE THE EXISTING SYSTEMS WAY MORE EFFICIENT AND HAS A, A VERY SUBSTANTIAL PAYBACK.
UM, YOU KNOW, FOR SYSTEMS LIKE THIS, VERY SIGNIFICANT.
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PRESET TEMPERATURES THAT SAY IT'S GONNA START COOLING THE BUILDING AN HOUR BEFORE YES.WELL, IT'LL, AFTER THAT IT, IT'LL, YES, IT'LL COME ON AND IN ENOUGH ADEQUATE TIME THAT WHENEVER PEOPLE, UH, START THE BUILDING, IT'LL MAINTAIN THAT TEMPERATURE OF COMFORTABILITY COMING.
UH, AND THEN IT'S, IT'S, IT IS A SCHEDULE THAT WILL BE SET INTO, UH, THE COMPUTER SYSTEM BASICALLY THAT'S, IT'S ADJUSTABLE, UM, BUT YOU MANUALLY OVERRIDES THAT.
IT SAYS SET THE DA'S OFFICE IS GONNA WORK ON SATURDAY.
YOU CAN MANUALLY OVERRIDE THAT ZONE, THE SYSTEM BEING SHUT OFF IN, IN WHATEVER ZONE, WHATEVER ZONE YOU'RE IN.
THERE, THERE IS AN OVERRIDE ON THE, UH, SENSOR FOR THAT ZONE.
UH, AND THAT OVERRIDE CAN BE ADJUSTABLE, BUT TYPICALLY THAT'S A THREE HOUR OVERRIDE.
SO BASICALLY THERE'S A BUTTON ON THE, SINCE YOU GO UP AND PUSH, YOU OVERRIDE AT SYSTEM FOUR, THREE HOURS, YOU WANNA TALK A LITTLE ABOUT THE SAVINGS THAT YOU ANTICIPATE? UM, YES.
THE, UH, SAVINGS THAT WE ANTICIPATE, UM, ACTUALLY THEY'RE GUARANTEED, UM, IN THE FIRST YEAR IS JUST OVER 21,000, WHICH REPRESENTS ABOUT 26% OF THE ELECTRIC GAS UTILITY OF THE COURTHOUSE.
UM, IT, ONCE AGAIN, IT'S A 'CAUSE OF THE WAY THE BUILDING IS OPERATING AND THE, THE REDUCTION IN RUNTIME THAT WE WILL ACHIEVE TO AUTOMATE GENERATES THE ALL THESE SAVINGS.
DID YOU SAY THAT SAME AS GUARANTEED? YES, SIR.
DANNY, UH, THIS, UH, THIS SYSTEM YOU'VE MENTIONED THE OVERRID.
UH, WOULD THIS BE TAKING THE CONTROL OF THE ZONES OUT THE HANDS OF THE EMPLOYEES NOW WORDS, UH, SOMEBODY COMES IN AND IT'S A LITTLE TOO HOT OR A LITTLE TOO COOL OR SOMETHING AND THEY GO IN THERE AND, AND HIT THE OVERRIDE, IT'LL RUN FOR THREE HOURS? OR, OR ARE THEY GOING TO HAVE, DO THEY GONNA HAVE TO CALL SOMEBODY THAT'S OVER THE, THE SYSTEM OR, OR HOW'S THAT GONNA WORK? WELL, THE OVERRIDE WOULD ONLY BE FOR AFTER HOURS, WHENEVER THE EQUIPMENT'S ACTUALLY OFF OR SET INTO A NICE SETBACK MODE.
UM, DURING NORMAL WORKING HOURS, UH, THERE IS A SLIDE ON THESE SENSORS, UH, WHERE THE TEMPERATURE CAN BE ADJUSTED.
UH, TYPICALLY WHAT, WHAT HAS DONE IN THE PAST AND WHAT OUR BUILDINGS DO, UH, THEY ONLY ALLOW A, A PLUS OR MINUS THREE DEGREES, UH, FOR SOMEONE TO GO OVER THERE AND SLIDE THAT DOWN.
UM, AND THAT TEMPERATURE SET POINT IS SET BY, UH, WHOEVER THE ADMINISTRATOR OF THAT SYSTEM IS.
UH, IT COULD BE YOUR MAINTENANCE DIRECTOR, UH, IT COULD BE ANYBODY THAT HAS ACCESS TO THAT.
UM, ALSO THAT OVERRIDE, UH, OR I'M SORRY, THAT TEMPERATURE SET POINT, IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S PROGRAMMED IN, IF THERE'S ADJUSTMENT THAT NEEDS TO BE MADE, UH, THIS SYSTEM'S, UH, A WEB-BASED PROGRAM THAT COULD BE MADE FROM ANYWHERE, ANY SMARTPHONE, ANY COMPUTER, UM, UH, FROM ANYBODY THAT'S GRANTED ACCESS.
SO DURING THE DAY, IF THERE'S, UH, A CALL AND A NEED FOR TEMPERATURE CHANGE, UH, OVER THE COURTHOUSE, I WOULD ASSUME IT WOULD PROBABLY BE FRED, I DON'T KNOW, WHOEVER YOU GUYS WOULD WRECK WITH THAT.
UH, HE TYPICALLY IS, IT'S CAUSE NOW HE CAN GO RIGHT INTO THE SYSTEM, MAKE THAT TEMPERATURE ADJUSTMENT AND GO ON, AND, AND ONCE THAT ADJUSTMENT'S MADE, UM, HE CAN MAKE THAT ADJUSTMENT PERMANENT OR HE CAN MAKE IT FOR RIGHT THEN SO THAT WHENEVER THE NEXT TIME SCHEDULE COMES UP, IT'LL GO BACK TO THE ORIGINAL SET POINT.
AND, UH, IS THIS A, UH, WHERE WOULD THE LOCATION OF THIS EQUIPMENT BE? WILL IT BE IN THE BASEMENT? UH, IN THE, IN THE, IN THE HVAC ROOM IN THERE? IS THAT WHERE IT'LL BE OR IS IT GOING IN WORDS WE TIE IT FOR SPACE UP THERE, OR DO WE HAVE ENOUGH ROOM TO INSTALL THIS EQUIPMENT OR IS IT JUST A COMPUTER CONSOLE AND THE, THE PC, UH, WHICH I, I DON'T KNOW THAT AGAIN, THAT WOULD BE Y'ALL AT Y'ALL'S DISCRETION WHERE THAT WOULD BE, I WOULD ASSUME THAT IT WOULD BE IN FRED'S OFFICE, BE IN INSTANT MAINTENANCE MAN, UH, FOR THAT FACILITY.
UH, IT'S ACTUALLY SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE, UH, DOWNLOADABLE TO HIS PC DOESN'T REQUIRE A SEPARATE PC FOR THAT.
UM, THE CONTROLS THAT NEED TO BE INSTALLED, UH, WOULD BE IN THE BASEMENT AS FAR AS VALVES.
UH, WE HAVE SOME VALVES THAT NEED TO BE CHANGED OUT FROM, FROM, UH, PNEUMATIC VALVES TO, UH, DEC CONTROLLED VALVES.
UH, AND THEN OF COURSE ALL THE SENSORS, UH, WOULD BE REPLACED WITH, OR WOULD BE REPLACING
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THE PNEUMATIC THERMOSTATS THROUGHOUT THE BUILDING.AND THAT'S KIND OF WHERE SOME OF OUR MAJOR ISSUES ARE IS YOU CANNOT GET PEOPLE HAPPY IN THAT BUILDING.
YOU'VE, YOU'VE GOT SOME OFFICES HOT OR SOME COLD OR SOME, WELL, IT, IT'S NEVER ENDING, YOU KNOW, AND WE'RE DEALING WITH EQUIPMENT THAT'S WHAT, 65 YEARS OLD? YES, SIR.
UH, UH, THE CONTROL EQUIPMENT, THE CHILLER AND THE BOILER HAVE BEEN REPLACED EXPENSIVE ITEMS. NOT THAT THIS IS, BUT IT IS WAY THE PRODUCT HAVE BETTER REGULATE WHAT WE'VE GOT GOING ON OVER THERE.
I'M ALWAYS A LITTLE, AS I'VE EXPRESSED TO THESE GUYS, I'M ALWAYS A LITTLE SKEPTICAL OF SAVINGS, BUT, UH, UH, NOT THAT WE WON'T SEE SAVINGS, BUT IT'S HOW WE MEASURE THOSE SAVINGS BECAUSE YOU HAVE ALL KINDS OF VARIABLES.
COLD WEATHER, HOT WEATHER, YOU KNOW, THINGS LIKE THAT.
I THINK THEY HEARD ME TALK ABOUT TWO OR THREE DIFFERENT TIMES, SO WE'LL BE WATCHING THAT PRETTY, PRETTY CAREFULLY.
MY MAIN CONCERN IS THEY'RE NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO CHANGE THE ZONING, YOU KNOW, OR IS THIS GONNA BE REALLY BENEFICIAL? YOU SAID SOME ROOMS ARE HOT, COOL, OR, YOU KNOW, NOT HIGH ENOUGH, WHATEVER.
WELL, YOU KNOW, WE LOOKED AT THAT AND YOU GUYS JUMPED.
I KNOW THAT'S A BIG CHANGE IN PLUMBING.
IT'S A PRETTY EXPENSIVE, UH, PART THAT I DIDN'T KNOW WHETHER WE MORE ABOUT THAT OFF AT THIS POINT.
UH, IT'S NOT THAT THERE'S NOT ANY, UH, THERE ARE AREA OWNERS AND FAN COAL UNITS FOR CERTAIN PARTS OF THE COURTHOUSE.
THE PROBLEM IS, IS THAT WHEN, UH, UH, THE COURTHOUSE WAS ORIGINALLY BUILT, THE SYSTEM WAS ORIGINALLY PUT IN, UM, THERE WASN'T SO MANY DIVIDING WALLS OFFICES.
IT LOOKS TO ME THAT IT WAS MORE WIDE OPEN THAN WHAT IT IS TODAY.
UH, AND OF COURSE IT DIDN'T HAVE THE OCCUPANCY NOWHERES NEAR THAT IT HAS TO THE OR COMPUTER OR ANYTHING.
SO YOU HAVE THERMOSTATS THAT ARE, FOR EXAMPLE, UH, THAT SECOND FLOOR, UH, THAT'D BE THE SOUTHWEST WING.
THERE'S A THERMOSTAT THAT'S IN THE MAIN FOUR DOOR ON THE SECOND FLOOR, BUT THERE'S NO WAY THAT, THAT, THAT THERMOSTAT CAN SENSE WHAT THAT AREA'S DOING ON THAT END.
WELL, TO CORRECT THAT OR, OR TO, UH, CHANGE THAT WOULD TAKE GETTING UP IN THE ATTIC, UH, REDOING THE DUCT WORK, SPLITTING IT OFF, ADDING, UH, MORE FAN COIL UNITS, UM, THAT YOU, THAT CAN BE OBTAINED, BUT NOT WITH THE SAVINGS THAT WE'VE PROVIDED FOR THE COUNTY THROUGH BEING ABLE TO DO THE, DO THE CONTROL SYSTEM WITH.
AND THAT WAS THE GOAL THAT WE CAME WITH, UH, WAS TO PROVIDE SAVINGS FOR WHAT YOU HAVE, UM, AND, AND NOT NECESSARILY PROVIDE SAVINGS AND, AND ADD COMFORT FOR WHAT YOU HAVE, BUT NOT TO COME IN AND, AND ACTUALLY DO A SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT OF MECHANICAL WORK.
UH, BECAUSE THAT WOULD JUST EAT ANY SAVINGS THAT WE HAD.
WHAT JUDGE WOODEN AND AND WE HAVE DISCUSSED IS, UH, DOING THIS NOW AND, AND IF IT WOULD BE OF INTEREST TO THE COUNTY THAT WE COULD COME BACK AND DO A STUDY TO ACTUALLY ZONE OFF AND TAKE CARE OF, OF, UH, THE MORE PROBLEMS OF, OF COMFORT BECAUSE OF THE ZONING ISSUES.
UM, BUT WE DIDN'T WANT TO INCLUDE THAT IN THIS BECAUSE THAT WOULD JUST END UP WHAT WE WERE TRYING TO DO.
STATEMENT AND COMMISSIONER, LOOK, THERE WILL BE SUBSTANTIAL IMPROVEMENTS AND COMFORT AS WELL.
AND THAT IF AT A LATER DATE THAT THE COMMISSION DECIDES TO INVEST IN SIGNIFICANT CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS WITH DUCT WORK AND SO FORTH, THIS INVESTMENT WILL STILL WORK FOR YOU.
THESE, THESE CONTROLS WILL BE APPLICABLE TO IN THE FUTURE YOU DECIDE TO, AS YOU DETERMINE THE MORE LONGER TERM USE OF THE, OF THE FACILITY.
ALSO THE, THE EXPANSION OF THIS CONTROL SYSTEM IS, I WON'T SAY A HUNDRED PERCENT UNLIMITED, BUT IT IS VERY UNLIMITED TO BE ABLE TO ADD ONTO IT LATER.
UM, UH, YOU COULD AND AND THAT'S SOMETHING WE'VE ALREADY DISCUSSED, THAT YOU COULD ADD CONTROLS TO THIS BUILDING OR THE, IT DOESN'T MATTER IF IT'S A SUB COURTHOUSE ANNEX AND, AND TARRELL, IT COULD BE ADDED TO THE SYSTEM.
UM, SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO GO OUT AND PURCHASE A ANOTHER PC.
UM, IT WOULD JUST BE SOME, UH, HARDWARE REPLACEMENT AND SOME PROGRAMMING TO ADD TO THE SYSTEM TO DO THE WHOLE COUNTY EVENTUALLY.
THAT, THAT'S THE BEAUTY PART OF IT.
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AS WE, YOU KNOW, WE CAN OTHER FACILITIES, I'M SURE WE HAVE SOME FACILITIES THAT ARE NEVER TURNED OFF.I MEAN, WE TRY TO DO THAT, BUT INVARIABLY SOMETIMES THAT DOES NOT HAPPEN.
WE, WE HAVE INSTALLED A SEVEN DAY PROGRAM WITH THERMOSTATS AT, UH, ALL THE LOCATIONS.
WE DID THAT, UH, A YEAR AND A HALF AGO I BELIEVE, AND TO TRY TO, UH, BASICALLY GAIN SOME CONTROL WHENEVER THE BUILDING'S NOT OCCUPIED TO BETTER THE EFFICIENCY.
BUT EVEN WITH THAT, UH, ANYBODY HAS ACCESS TO IT CAN CHANGE THAT.
AND IT DOESN'T TAKE A A LOT TO CHANGE THAT WHERE IT'S ALL SUDDEN RUNNING 24 7.
AGAIN, THING WITH THE CONTROLS, UH, AUTOMATIC AUTOMATED CONTROLS IS THAT ONCE YOU SET THAT PROGRAM, THAT'S LIMITED ACCESS.
IT'S, IT'S LIMITED TO WHOEVER YOU DESIRE, UH, TO CONTROL THAT.
AND IT TAKES THE HANDS OUT THE USER TO BE ABLE TO GO UP THERE AND CHANGE THERMOSTAT WHERE IT RUNS 24 7 OTHER THAN A THREE DEGREE CLUSTER RULE.
BUT EVEN ON THE OVERRIDE, IF SOMEBODY COMES IN AND OVERRIDES AT THE SYSTEM AFTER HOURS, IT'S ONLY GONNA RUN FOR THREE HOURS AT THE DAILY SET POINT.
SO BASICALLY, UH, THEY CAN COME IN ON A WEEKEND OVERRIDE IT AND IT'S JUST GONNA GO TO WHAT ITS OCCUPIED SENSOR SET POINT IS THEY CAN'T OVERRIDE IT AND CRANK IT DOWN TO 65 DEGREES.
DIDN'T Y'ALL DO THIS AT THE SHERIFF'S, UH, UH, FACILITY OUT THERE? WE, WE DID ON THE ADMINISTRATION OFFICE.
WE CHANGED A COUPLE OF, UH, THE UNITS OUT AND ADDED A, A CONTROL.
NOW THE, THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT, OR I SHOULDN'T SAY THAT THE LAW ENFORCEMENT CENTER HAD A-A-D-D-C CONTROL SYSTEM ON IT OR HAS A DDC CONTROL SYSTEM ON IT.
UH, WE DIDN'T GO BACK TO THE PROVIDER THAT DID THAT ORIGINAL WORK, UH, BECAUSE, UH, THE MAINTENANCE DIRECTOR OUT THERE AT THAT POINT IN TIME HAD ISSUES WITH GETTING THOSE GUYS OUT.
UH, I'M FAMILIAR WITH THEIR SYSTEM.
UH, I, I, IT'S, IT'S AN OKAY SYSTEM, BUT THE SERVICE PROVIDER WASN'T ABLE TO COME OUT ON TIMELY MANNER, TAKE CARE OF THAT.
SO WE DID DO THE ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICES OVER THERE AND, AND ADD SOME CONTROLS TO THE ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICES JUST FOR THAT.
AND HOW DOES THAT WORK AT THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT? DOES HE HAVE ANY COMMENT ABOUT THAT? WELL, I, I'LL TELL YOU THAT, UH, FROM SPEAKING WITH, UH, DEPUTY CHIEF BEAVERS THAT THEY ENJOY THE SYSTEM, LIKE THE SYSTEM AND SPEAKING WITH UH, UH, THE MAINTENANCE PERSONNEL OVER THERE.
THEY DO, UH, I WOULD BET THE SHERIFF WOULD'VE BETTER INFLUENCE ON THAT THAN NEED.
WE, WE'VE UH, I BEEN MUCH MORE ACCEPTABLE OVERALL.
WE DON'T HAVE THE HOTSPOTS AND, AND FOR INSTANCE, UH, IN MY OFFICE, YOU USED TO GET TO WHERE YOU COULD THERE IN THE SUMMERTIME AND UH, I MEAN IT WOULD BE UNCOMFORTABLE SOMETIMES.
AND THAT'S ALL LEVEL OUT I ASSUME MORE EFFICIENT.
I HAVEN'T LOOKED COMPARED TO COST OR ANYTHING, BUT I THINK THAT OVERALL EVERYBODY'S MORE COMFORTABLE AND THERE'S A LOT LESS COMPLAINING ABOUT HOT AND COLD, YOU KNOW, DIFFERENT MS. COOPER, WE HAD FUNDS.
I HAVEN'T BEEN TOLD, WELL THIS WOULD BE PART OF THE PACKAGE BE FINANCED THROUGH EITHER THEIR VENDOR OR THROUGH A VENDOR.
BUT, UH, THE ISSUE TO THAT IS OR NOT THE ISSUE.
PART OF THAT IS THE SAVINGS ARE GUARANTEED BY THIS PROGRAM.
AND THAT'S THE PART WE HAVE TO MONITOR.
IN THE PATENT, I BELIEVE THERE WAS A QUOTE, UH, JUDGE THE OTHER FIRM HONOR THE SAME, RIGHT.
THAT Y'ALL BEEN PAYING FOR A FINANCE.
UH, AND UH, SO THAT'S BE PAID FOR ESSENTIALLY ON THE TERM.
THE RESOLUTION THAT WE'VE GOT IN OUR PACKET RIGHT HERE, UH, DOESN'T ADDRESS THE SAVINGS GUARANTEE, BUT I SEE SOMETHING IN THERE WHERE WE FUTURE DOCUMENTS THAT YOU, YOU AND JOHN WOULD OPEN HAVE THAT THAT BE CORRECT.
THIS IS JUST A RESOLUTION CONTRACT, RIGHT? WE, THE DETAILS HAVE, YEAH, AND WE, LEMME ASSURE YOU, WE'VE HAD PRETTY EXTENSIVE CONVERSATION ABOUT THE GUARANTEE OF, AND I GONE THROUGH SEVERAL SYSTEMS LIKE THIS AND THE ISSUE IS ALWAYS IS HOW YOU MEASURE THE SAVINGS.
AND SO Y'ALL DON'T HEAR THAT SERMON AGAIN.
I DON'T THINK WE TALKED ABOUT IT SEVERAL TIMES.
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THAT'LL BE SOMETHING A GOOD POINT.IT BE SOMETHING THAT WE MONITOR AND WATCH AND MAKE SURE THAT THE WE'LL HAVE EQUIPMENT AND UH, YOU KNOW, HOPEFULLY TO, IT'S A SPEND 20 YEAR REDUCTION PAY OFF THE BAT.
WE PUT RESOLUTION INTO THE CONTRACT.
I DUNNO THAT WE, ON THE AGENDA WE GOT, WE CAN PROVE THE, UH, FINANCING OF IT OR NOT INTO A CONTRACT.
SO, YOU KNOW, I DUNNO, IT HAS TO ONE UP THAT'D GIVE Y'ALL TIME TO FIND OUT WHERE THE MONEY'S COMING FROM AND WHERE THE BEST, BEST PLACE TO GET IT.
AND TYPICALLY THAT'S WHAT WE DO IS ON THE FINANCING.
ANYTHING WE DO LIKE ON VEHICLE, WE GO OUT AND SHOP FOR THE BEST FINANCING AND THAT'S WHAT WE TALK TO THEM ABOUT THEIR VENDOR, UH, FOR FINANCING THE, WE'VE NOW THAT VENDOR'S COMING BACK SAYING MEET PRICE, THE ONE WE'VE BEEN USING.
SO NOT TWO SEPARATE DISCUSSIONS.
ONE APPROVE INTO THE CONTRACT HAVE FOR WELL, I'LL, UH, I DON'T SEE IT COURT ON PROCUREMENT SIDE.
YOU KNOW WHAT, I, I DON'T SEE AN ISSUE COME BACK COURT.
NO, UH, THAT'S NOT AN ISSUE BECAUSE LIKE YOU APPROVE THE EQUIPMENT AND THE VEHICLES, WE GOT FINANC THE LOWEST RATE AND WE HAVE THE QUOTES FROM EVERYBODY AND LET YOU KNOW.
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER CLARK AND A SECOND FROM, UH, COMMISSIONER SHANE.
DO WE HAVE MORE DISCUSSION? THE ONLY QUESTION I HAVE IS IF WE APPROVE THIS BARELY SOON YES.
AND APPROVED, WE ANTICIPATE THAT THAT MAY 1ST, THAT WAS WHAT WE HAD TALKED ABOUT ON THE ACTIONS THAT OVER THE NEXT 30 DAYS WE COULD GET THE PAPERWORK DONE AND THEN UH, WE COULD START.
SO WE SEE BACK VERY, VERY QUICKLY.
WE WILL WANT OUR ATTORNEY OF COURSE TO LOOK OVER THE CONTRACT.
AND ALSO THE GUARANTEED PARTS THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT.
AS A POINT, THE FIRST LEASE PAYMENT DOESN'T EVEN BEGIN UNTIL THE WORK'S COMPLETED.
RIGHT? SO YOU'RE JOINT THE, THE BENEFITS.
SO WE WOULD BE ABLE TO WORK THAT INTO YEAR BUDGET AND WE ALSO LOOKED AT, UH, ABOUT A SIX WEEK TURNAROUND FROM THE TIME THAT THE CONTRACT WAS INITIALLY OR THE HEAT REALLY GETS HERE.
OTHER QUESTIONS? THIS, I JUST HAVE ONE HERE, UH, THAT BEEN FAILED, BEEN BROUGHT UP, UH, ABOUT THE SMART STRIP FOR PRINTERS, SCANNERS AND OTHER ELECTRONIC DEVICES.
IS THAT ALL INCLUDED IN THIS? IT'S NOT, NOT JUST HBAZ, IT'S, IT'S ALSO FOR COMPUTERS.
IT'S A MUCH SMALLER SAVINGS, BUT WHILE WE'RE LOOKING AT IT, THERE'S A LOT OF, UH, HARDWARE AND COMPUTERS AND SCREENS SITTING AROUND THE COURTHOUSE AND RIGHT.
WORKING WITH, UH, PAM TO IDENTIFY ALL THOSE, BUT ALL THAT EQUIPMENT'S INCLUDED ALSO.
AND WHAT I'D LIKE TO ASK THAT WE DO, UH, AND UH, IS BEFORE WE VOTE, AS SOON AS WE GET THIS EQUIPMENT INSTALLED HERE, LET'S, WE'LL START TRYING TO LOOK ABOUT THE OTHER, LIKE THIS BUILDING.
AND WHAT WE NEED TO DO TO CONNECT THIS BUILDING, THE SAME NETWORK SO WE CAN START SEEING SAVINGS HERE AND THE OTHER PLACES AS WELL.
SO, BUT THAT'S NOT PART OF THIS.
DO ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH GENTLEMEN.
APPRECIATE WORKING, WORKING WITH YOU, PUTTING THIS TOGETHER.
UH, ITEM NUMBER EIGHT IS TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER APPROVING CONTRACTS WITH COSTON COUNTY AND CHASE BANK FOR 85.
THAT'S, AND, UH, MS. HUEY AND MAMA'S NOT ABLE TO BE HERE TODAY.
THE, UM, THE FIRST ONE IS THE CHASE
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BANK FOR E-FILING AND THE SECOND ONE IS THE CONTRACT BETWEEN TYLER TECHNOLOGIES.THE SUPREME COURT MANDATED THAT COUNTIES WILL BEGIN E-FILING AND OUR COUNTY WILL BEGIN E FILING JANUARY 15, UH, JANUARY, 2015.
AND WE'VE BEEN WORKING, RHONDA AND I HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH THE VENDOR TO GET OUR SYSTEMS READY, BUT THE NEXT STEP IS TO SIGN THE AGREEMENT WITH TYLER TECHNOLOGIES.
UM, AND I SAID DIRECT CONTRACTUAL RELATIONSHIP, UM, THE FILING SAYING THAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO THE E-FILING, WHICH IS RETIRED BY THE STATE AND THEN THE CHASE BANK IS BASICALLY THE BANK INFORMATION THAT WE HAVE TO PROVIDE THEM BECAUSE IT'S ALL DONE BY ELECTRONIC.
SO THESE ARE TWO CONTRACTS THAT ARE STANDARD ACROSS THE STREET.
THE STATE CAN REQUIRE FOR US TO SIGN AND I BELIEVE ARE PAID FOR OUT THE, UH, FEES THAT WE COLLECT, UH, RATHER THAN THE GENERAL FUND.
IS THAT CORRECT? THERE IS NO FILING FEE FOR THE COUNTY FREE FILING.
SO THE MONEY PAID FOR THIS WILL COME FROM THE PERSON WHO IS SUBMITTING THE FILING TO THE COURT.
THEY'LL PAY FOR JUST THE COURT COURT FEES, WHICH WILL, THERE'S NO COST TO THE COUNTY BASICALLY? NO, THERE'S NO COST TO THE COUNTY.
IS THERE ANOTHER FILING FEE PAID LIKE A TWO FILING FEE FILING? YES.
THERE'S A $2 FILING FEE PAID AS LONG AS, AND THE COUNTY CAN ACCEPT IT AS LONG AS THEY CAN PROVE THAT IT WAS TO OFFSET THE COST.
ANY COST THAT WE HAVE INCURRED WITH THE FILING AND WE'RE NOT TO THAT STEP YET.
THEY, UM, TYLER HAS THIS VERY WELL REGIMENTED ON WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN AND WE WILL GET TO THAT POINT.
AND LIKE I SAID, THERE'S A CONTRACT FOR MY OFFICE IN CONTACT OR RONDA'S OFFICE FOR BOTH OF THESE.
AND I, JOHN, I DUNNO, JOHN'S HAD A CHANCE TO NO, LOOK OVER.
WE'RE JUST A COUPLE YEARS BEHIND THE TIME.
I KNOW WE NEED TO CORRECT AND SHE'S CORRECT LAST WEEK.
WE DO NEED, BUT UH, PROBABLY YOU WOULD WANNA LOOK OVER THE CONTRACTS I WAS PAYING.
AND UH, I REASON I, GO AHEAD APPROVE THE COURT.
SO THE, THE CHASE BANK PART OF, I'M A LITTLE UNCLEAR WHY WE'RE HAVING TO INVOLVE A BANK IF TYLER IS COLLECT THE MONEY, WHAT HE FILING, THEY HAVE TO KNOW WHERE TO PUT THE FUNDS INTO WHAT ACCOUNT BECAUSE TYLER'S GONNA TAKE THE MONEY AND THEY'RE GOING TO GET A CONTRACT WITH CHASE.
BUT CHASE HAS TO KNOW WHAT BANK ACCOUNT TO PUT THE MONEY INTO.
WHY CAN'T IT JUST GO INTO AMERICAN NATIONAL WHERE WE IT IT IS, IT IS.
THAT'S THE INFORMATION THAT WE'RE SUBMITTING TO THEM IS OUR, UH, YOU'RE GONNA PAGE TWO OF THREE DOWN AT THE BOTTOM AMERICAN NATIONAL BANK.
THAT'S OUR BANK ACCOUNT INFORMATION THAT JOHNNY PROVIDED US.
AND THEN RHONDA HAS HER OWN BANK INFORMATION WITH IT.
THE CHASE BANK, THEY'RE NOT GONNA MAKE A CUT OUT OF THIS FOR HANDLING.
IT WILL, WHATEVER THEIR CUT IS, THEY WORK THROUGH TYLER ON IT.
THEY'RE JUST GONNA BE
GUESS YOUR QUESTION IS WHY TOOK IT JUST GO DIRECT, RIGHT? WHY IS CHASE INVOLVED HANDLING AND I I GUESS THAT'S JUST HOW IT'S SET UP.
IT JUST SAYS THAT'S WHAT'S SET.
IS IT TYLER HAS WORKED WITH CHASE ON THIS? PROBABLY SEVERAL THINGS.
PROBABLY CHASE AND BANK OF AMERICAN, WELLS FARGO.
THERE'S PROBABLY ONLY A COUPLE THINGS THAT THE TECHNOLOGY PIECE WANTS TO HERE THROUGH NATIONAL.
USUALLY THAT COSTS MONEY THOUGH WHEN IT GOES TO ANOTHER ENTITY.
MY QUESTION IS, IS IT NECESSARY, IS IT MANDATED? IT DOES GO THROUGH CHASE.
THEY GET A PORTION OF IT STRAIGHT TO OUR BANK.
THE BENEFITS OF THAT OR IT'S MANDATED, IT GOES THROUGH ANOTHER BANK BEFORE IT GETS TO OUR BANK.
CHASE IS PROCESSING THE CREDIT CARDS AND THE COUNTY DOESN'T HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO COLLECT THAT FEE ON THE CREDIT CARD.
YOU KNOW THE CERTAIN PERCENTAGE THAT'S CHARGED ON THE
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CREDIT CARD.DOES AMERICAN NATIONAL, DID THEY PROCESS? NO, I BELIEVE THAT THE BIGGER ISSUE IS TYLER HAS AGREED WITH TO DO CHASE, YOU FIRST SIGNED THE CONTRACT WITH TYLER AND THEN YOU SIGN THE INFORMATION ABOUT WHERE THE MONEY'S GONNA GO.
BUT I THINK THAT TYLER AND CHASE HAVE THAT CO AGREEMENT.
WE DON'T HAVE THE OPTION TO DO ANYTHING ELSE.
NO, GEORGE, YOU RAISED YOUR HAND.
YEAH, BASICALLY IT'S IN THE SAME WAY ANY RETAIL OPERATION HAS WAS KNOWN AS A DEPOSITORY.
SO THEY HAVE A RELATIONSHIP WITH THAT BANK AS THEIR DEPOSITORY.
AND SO THAT'S THE WAY THEY DO BUSINESS.
I MEAN AFTER THAT'S DONE AND WE RECEIVE THE MONEY, WE CAN PUT WHAT WE WANT TO.
BUT JUST LIKE IF I WAS A SEARS DEALER STORE, I HAVE AN AGREEMENT WITH SEARS ROBOT COMPANY BE ABLE TO USE THIS BANK AS MY DEPOSITORY.
IT'S LIKE THE STATE THEY ISSUE A PURCHASE CARD OR A CREDIT CARD THEY'LL THAT AND THE STATE TEXAS DOES OUT AND THAT JACK HAD TO USE THAT, THAT CREDIT CARD COMPANY TO ACTUALLY GET THE COUNTY'S CREDIT CARD SET UP.
AND CHASE USED TO BE USED TO BE THEY LOST THAT BID.
I UNDERSTAND SOMEONE HAS TO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR CLEARING THE CREDIT CARDS TO HANDLE THE MONEY.
I JUST DIDN'T UNDERSTAND WHY IT HAD TO BE CHASE BANK.
TYLER WILL NOT SET IT UP ANY OTHER WAY.
IS THAT, I GUESS THAT'S THE, THAT'S THE LONG SHORT OF IT.
THEY MANDATE THAT IT GOES THROUGH CHASE.
IS THAT CORRECT? FROM EVERYTHING I'M TOLD THEY SAID JOHN, CAN YOU LOOK INTO THAT? UH, I'LL, I'LL LOOK INTO THAT, BUT I THINK THAT'S PRETTY MUCH, YEAH, I MEAN FRANKLY THEY DON'T DEAL WITH LOCAL BANKS COMMISSIONER.
I WOULD JUST THINK THAT THE TO WOULD NOT HAVE TO DEAL WITH EVERY BANK ACROSS THE STATE IN EVERY DIFFERENT COUNTY AND SOME MAY NOT BE EQUIPPED TO CHASE.
YOU ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THIS? NOT ON MOTION TO, UH, ACT ITEM EIGHT.
HAVE A MOTION WE HAVE A DISCUSSION.
OPPOSED? BEFORE WE GET TOO FAR, WE GOT ANOTHER ITEM E FILING THAT'S ITEM NUMBER NINE.
DISCUSS CONSIDERING COUNTY AND TYLER.
I THINK THAT'S, THAT'S THE SAME PART OF THE SAME THING.
WE JUST NEED TO HAVE IT ON AS A SEPARATE VOTE.
WE HAVE A MOTION FOR COMMISSIONER SHANE.
DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND YOU COMMISSIONER CLARK SECONDS.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER APPROVING LAKE PHASE FOUR, BLOCK 17, LOT EIGHT IN KAMAN COUNTY PRE NUMBER THREE.
THIS, THIS I THINK THE, Y'ALL COME UP THIS DANNY AND UH, THEY LAKE AND THEY TALKED TO THE HOMELESS ASSOCIATION ABOUT, SO THEY PUT SOMETHING DID I DID NOT TELL MR. PERRY.
CAMERON, THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.
WE UH, BOUGHT THIS PROPERTY OUT SHADOW LAKE FEBRUARY LAST YEAR.
WE'VE SINCE PAID THE PROPERTY OFF.
WE WANT TO KEEP 10 ACRES OF THAT IN A AND, BUT WE WENT TO THE BANK AND THE TITLE COMPANY AND THEY WANTED US TO PUT IT ALL TOGETHER, YOU KNOW, TO DO THE INTERIM LOAN OF THE HOUSE, BUILDING A HOUSE.
SO WE HAD TO PLAN IN ORDER TO GET A SEPARATE TAX NUMBER, IDENTIFICATION NUMBER, PUT THAT ONE 1.3 ACRES ALONG WITH THE HOUSE, YOU KNOW, IN THE FRIDAY.
WE'RE GOING THROUGH STEPS RIGHT NOW TO MAINTAIN AND KEEP OUR, YOU UNDERSTAND WE HAVE, WE DON'T
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ASSOCIATION THERE.SO I DON'T SEE A PROBLEM WITH LAND HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THAT.
THE RE PLAN HAS TO GO THROUGH, HAS TO GET APPROVED BY ALL EFFECTIVE LANDOWNERS IN THE SUBDIVISION.
I BET YOU THAT OVER IN BARN IS A REAL TOUGH THING TO DO.
BUT I BELIEVE THAT'S WHAT THE STATUTE PHASE FOUR, THEY, THEY BUILT THESE BIGGER LOTS.
MY NEIGHBOR ON THE NORTH HAS 65 ACRES, ONE ON MY SOUTH SIDE BECAUSE I'M IN THE CUL-DE-SAC.
SO YOU'VE GOT 16 ACRES AND THEY DID NOT PUT ANY OF THIS IN THE PHASE FOUR RESTRICTIONS THAT YOU COULD NOT REPLA THIS.
THEY SAID AS LONG AS WE FOLLOW THE GUIDELINES AS THE BILL LINES AND THE EASEMENTS, THEN THEY SAID THAT WE KNOW THEY HAD OUR BLESSING FOR WE LOVE ENDEAVOR.
SO LAURA, YOU REMEMBER HOW THE SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS READ? YEAH, WE, WE'VE BEEN, I THINK I WENT THROUGH THIS WITH, UH, I THINK I SAW MR. SHEPHERD BACK THERE, SOME PROPERTY DOWN AROUND
WE HAD TO HAVE ALL THE EXISTING ADJACENT LANDOWNER TO, UH, CHECK OFF ON.
IS THAT NOT CORRECT? I DON'T, I'M SORRY.
I I DON'T EVEN, OUR, WE JUST NEED, I THINK THE COURT JUST NEEDS TO MAKE SURE WE'RE BEING CONSISTENT AND THAT WE DON'T GRANT SOMEBODY SOMETHING THAT WE TURN DOWN TO SOMEBODY ELSE.
AND SO JOHN, DO YOU HAVE ANY SUGGESTIONS? UH, UM, SO AND I, YOU HAVE THIS, WHAT Y'ALL ASKING FOR IN COURT JUST TO SIGN OFF THE REFLECT, I'M SITTING HERE LOOKING AT YOUR RESTRICTIONS AND UH, ON PAGE FOUR, I I THOUGHT YOU SAID YOU'RE USING IT FOR RESIDENTIAL PURPOSES.
IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S ALREADY PROVIDED FOR, RIGHT? YEAH.
EACH, EACH SLOT IS SOLD CAN ONLY HAVE ONE FAMILY HOUSEHOLD ON IT.
RIGHT NOW WE WE'RE IN AG EXEMPTION AND WE'D LIKE TO MAINTAIN THE, THE 10 ACRES TAKING 1.3 ACRES OFF 11.088 OR WHATEVER.
IT'S, WE'D LIKE TO EXCLUDE THAT SO THAT WE CAN MAINTAIN AND KEEP THE REST OF IT IN NAG AND JUST PUT THE 1.3 ACRES UP TO THE BANK AS COLLATERAL FOR REFIN, I MEAN TO FINANCE.
AND THEN IT SAYS ALL IMPROVEMENTS MUST BE APPROVED BY THE ARCHITECTURAL CONTROL COMMITTEE.
DID DID Y'ALL DO THAT? WELL, THE IMPROVEMENT I UM, I BELIEVE, YOU KNOW, IS JUST TALKING ABOUT THE HOUSE ITSELF.
IT DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE REPLANT.
BUT WE DID GO TO THE PRESIDENT OF THE HOA ASSOCIATION, WHICH IS OVER THE A A C AND THEY, HE SAID THAT THIS IS NOT ADDRESSED IN THE PHASE FOUR REQUIREMENTS.
AND SO HE, THEY SAID, UH, WE LUCK WITH YOUR ENDEAVOR AND YOU GAVE US THEIR APPROVAL TO GO FORWARD WITH THE REPLANT, YOU KNOW, IN ORDER TO GET OUR INTERIM LAWS ON OUR FIELD.
SO WHO SAID YOU NEEDED TO
AND WE'LL HAVE TO TAKE LITTLE BIT OF THAT OUT BAD BECAUSE OUR POLICIES DO NOT ALLOW TO LOAN AGAINST ANYTHING THAT'S IN AGRICULTURE.
AND SO THAT'S THE POINT WHERE WE WENT AND SAID, YOU PROBABLY WON'T BE ABLE TO GET APPROVAL FROM YOUR HOA, YOU KNOW, TO REPLANT THIS.
AND WE WENT TO THEM AND THEY SAID, NO, WE GOT NO PROBLEM WITH IT.
SO, SO WHAT DO YOU HAVE? IS THIS, DID YOU BRING THIS? YEAH, WE BROUGHT THAT TO, DID DID Y'ALL PREPARE THIS? IS THIS A REPL? YES, AND I BROUGHT MYLAR COPIES FOR THE COURT AND FOR THE AREA.
FIRST OF ALL, I WAS TALKING WITH UH, CHRIS PIECE ALONG WITH MR. SHANE AND HE SAID THAT WASN'T INSURED THAT I NEED TO GO THROUGH THE COURT.
HE SAID NORMALLY WE JUST WRITE UP A CARD THAT SAYS WE'RE TAKING OUT, YOU KNOW, ONE TO ONE AND A HALF ACRES AND THEY WILL, YOU KNOW, PROCESS THAT AND MAKE A LOAN AND EXCLUDE THE OTHER 10 ACRES FROM THE LOAN.
BUT WE WENT BACK TO TITLE COMPANY AND THEY SAID, NO, IT'S GOTTA HAVE ITS OWN TAX ID NUMBER, YOU KNOW, SEPARATE FROM THE 11 ACRES.
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SO I WENT TO ANOTHER TITLE COMPANY, THEY SAID, WELL WE'VE GOT NO PROBLEM DOING THAT.BUT IN TALKING TO THE BANK, THEY CAME BACK AND SAID, WELL, WHEN WE DO THE FINAL LOAN AFTER THE HOUSE IS BUILT, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO COME BACK AND GET A, A SEPARATE TAX ID NUMBER TO KEEP THAT SEPARATE, YOU KNOW, FROM THE, INCLUDE THE WHOLE
I, I DON'T HAVE AN ISSUE WITH IT.
MY ONLY FRIENDLY ADVICE WOULD BE NEXT TIME MAYBE I'D SEEK OUT A DIFFERENT TITLE.
THIS IS AN EXTRAORDINARY EFFORT TO GO TO FOR SOMETHING THAT DOESN'T APPEAR TO CHRIS SIGNED.
BUT, BUT THAT SAID, THAT SAID, IT'S PUBLICLY POSTED.
SO I MEAN YOU, YOU'VE NOTIFIED THE PUBLIC AND YOU SUBMITTED A A PLA SO I DUNNO, I DON'T SEE AN ISSUE WITH IT.
YOU FEEL LIKE IT'S OKAY TO YES.
PROCEED AS FAR AS WHAT COURT I, I WOULD NOT HAVE RECOMMENDED THIS FOR.
I DON'T SEE ANYTHING I DON'T WORK FOR.
I THINK THERE'S LITTLE SCENARIO YOU HAVE GO THROUGH.
I WANNA MAKE SURE WE, I THINK IT'S A GREAT IDEA WHAT YOU'RE DOING THAT JUST WANNA MAKE SURE WE, THERE IS A PROCEDURE ON
OUR CONCERN IS, I'VE STATED TO OVER, WE MAKE SURE WE DON'T BECAUSE WE HAVE QUESTIONS LIKE THIS COME UP FROM TIME TO TIME.
WE'VE TRIED TO BE CONSISTENT, WE HAVE BEEN CONSISTENT.
SO WE'RE JUST VERIFYING THAT WE'VE DONE ALL OF, NOT ALL REQUIREMENTS THAT WE HAVE.
YEAH, AND I, AND I APPRECIATE YOU, SO TO COME BACK LATER ON SURE.
YOU, YOU, I THINK HAVE TRIED TO DO YOUR DUE DUE DILIGENCE IN THAT, RIGHT? SHE, SHE, SHE HAS, UH, FROM THE CALKIN COUNTY SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS, THERE'S PROVISIONS THAT ARE 12.2 FOR REVISION OF A PLAT, WHICH TYPICALLY IS FROM THE, UH, DEVELOPER AND, AND IT'S AS, AS YOU ALLUDED TO, IT'S A, A PROCESS OF DOING THE DIFFERENT THINGS, UM, APPLICATION A PORTION, UH, SIX COPIES OF THE PROPOSED STATE REASONS, FILING WHAT I'M FRANKLY, I'M QUESTIONING THE NEED EVEN HAVE TO DO THIS AT ALL.
SO I MEAN, YOUR, YOUR QUESTION, I DON'T THINK THEY DO THAT ON THEIR OWN EXCEPT GOING THERE.
IT HAPPENS ALL THE TIME WHERE YOU'VE GOT A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF PROPERTY AND YOU TAKE YOUR HOMESTEAD OUT IT AND THE REST OF IT KEEP ACTIVE.
THAT'S BOUGHT THE PROPERTY AND THEN WE GO TO THE BANK, THEY SAID, OKAY, YOU, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, THIS IS THE TOP COMPANY WE USE AND THEY ALREADY APPROVED US, YOU KNOW, EVERYTHING STOOD THERE WITH THE BANK AND TWO MONTHS INTO IT.
FEBRUARY, DON'T THINK IT'S ISSUE COUNSELOR, YOU'RE, I I I DON'T EITHER.
COMMISSIONER
I'M HERE SIX YEARS AND I CAN'T REMEMBER SITTING AROUND DISCUSSING THIS BEFORE, SO THAT'S WHY I SAID BUT FOR YOUR PURPOSES, IT YEAH, THAT'S WHAT CHRIS, PETE TOLD US TOO.
HE SAYS, YOU KNOW, THAT'S KIND OF RIDICULOUS THAT THEY WON ACCEPT THAT CARD.
AND THEN THEY CAME BACK, SAID, NO GONNA HAVE, HAVE SEPARATE, YOU KNOW, ID NUMBER ON THAT PROPERTY OUT BANK.
I MEAN TO TO, TO THE EXTENT THAT HE IS DESIGNATED A PIECE OF PROPERTY WITHIN IT AND IT'S PUBLIC NOTICE, THERE'S NO OBJECTIONS TO IT.
BUT LIKE I SAID, IT'S NOT A TRADITIONAL PREPLAN AND IT'S NOT REALLY CHANGING THE USE RIGHT.
OF THE, DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? WELL, PLANNING, MAYBE THAT'S WHAT THE BANK'S CONCERNED ABOUT.
IF THEY DEFAULT ON A LOAN, THEY WANT TO BE ABLE TO SEIZE THE HOUSE OR WHATEVER LAND GOES WITH IT TO SELL IT.
BUT YOU WOULD THINK THAT THEY'D WANNA SEIZE THE ENTIRE PROPERTY.
WOULDN'T WELL REALLY YOU COULDN'T DO THAT ANYWAY.
YEAH, WE CAN'T BUILD IT'S ONE FAMILY.
IT'S NOT, IT WOULD BE A SUBDIVISION IF THEY SEIZED ONE AND THEN IT'S SOLD SEPARATELY AS A DIFFERENT PROPERTY, THEN IT WOULD BE A, UM, REPL ISSUE BECAUSE WHOEVER BUYS THAT REST OF THAT PROPERTY WOULD WANT
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TO BUILD RESIDENCE.NO, IT IS AN EIGHT A IT'S LOT EIGHT A AND LAKE LOT EIGHT FEET.
SO THE HOUSE IS GONNA BE ON LOT EIGHT TO EIGHT AND THEN THE AG IS GONNA BE EIGHT FEET.
SO WE CAN STILL MAINTAIN THE AG, THEY RE FOLD THE HOUSE AND AC OR FOOT.
YEAH, BUT WE CANNOT BUILD ABLE ANOTHER, YOU KNOW, SINGLE GAP ON THAT.
BUT IF IT REPLANTED, THEN NO, IT'S STILL THE SAME LOT.
IT'S JUST, IT WOULDN'T BE, IF IT WAS A SUBDIVISION REFL, IT'D BE TWO BOXES IN.
THAT THEY COULD, THEY COULD SEIZE YOUR HOUSE AND WHATEVER ACRE GOES WITH IT.
AND IF WE WENT THROUGH THE COURT TODAY, THEN YOU'VE GOT TWO PROPERTIES.
NOT ONE I, BUT THEY WOULD NOT REPOSSESS IT.
WELL, REPOSSESSION IS A DIFFERENT ISSUE THAN HAVING TWO DIFFERENT PROPERTIES BECAUSE IF YOU REPLANT IT, THEN YOU'VE GOT TWO PROPERTIES, THEN WHOEVER, IF YOU MAINTAIN POSSESSION OF THE REST OF IT THAT YOU HAD IN AG, THEN YOU COULD LEGALLY BUILD A RESIDENCE ON IT BECAUSE IT'S A SEPARATE PROPERTY.
IF WE REFL IT OR NOW IT'S NOT, IT'S, IT'S ONE ONE PROPERTY.
AM I CORRECT? I MEAN ONCE YOU, ONCE YOU REPLAY IT, ONCE YOU REPLAY IT, YOU'VE GOT TWO PROPERTIES, NOT ONE.
AND, AND THE SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS SAY YOU'RE ALLOWED ONE RESIDENT PROPERTY.
SO YOU BASICALLY BE ALLOWED HAVE SEVEN RESIDENTS ON, ON THE SECOND PROPERTY.
SO WE NEED, DON'T NEED, YEAH, I THINK WE NEED TO BE CAREFUL ON REFL SOMETHING JUST BECAUSE OF THE MORTGAGE COMPANY OR A BANK, IT NOT CAUSE THEM PROBLEMS ALL DOWN THE WAY.
WELL IT COULD CAUSE US A LOT OF PROBLEMS WITH EVERYBODY NOT COME REFL.
YEAH, I MEAN SOMETHING MY, I DON'T KNOW WHY THE SURVEY AND THE DEED DON'T TAKE CARE OF THIS PROBLEM.
IT'S JUST DESIGNATING BUSINESS.
JUST, OKAY, WELL WE ALL FAIRLY, I'M, I'M Y'ALL PROVE THIS FOR THE BANK MORTGAGE COMPANY.
WHAT THIS IS ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHO'S MAKING US DO THIS IS THE
AND THEN, YOU KNOW, THEY SAID THEY, THE, THE RESTRICTIONS HAD CHANGED IN THE LAST COUPLE YEARS, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE WE THOUGHT, WELL, YOU KNOW, THE REASON MAYBE THEY HADN'T SEEN THIS IS BECAUSE LOT THE PROPERTIES ARE LIKE, YOU KNOW, 1, 4, 3 ACRE LOTS THAT THEY, YOU KNOW, THEY JUST REFINANCED THE WHOLE THING.
YOU KNOW, THE PROPERTY, THIS IS OUR HOUSE GO THROUGH TO DO IT.
SO WE PAID FOR RE AND YOU KNOW, SAID THAT'S GOOD.
WHAT'S YOUR PLEASURE? I OF COURSE, BUT UH, THAT MATT CAUSES PROBLEMS. WE'LL BE HERE.
I GUESS THE THING I'D SAY, JOHN, IS COULD THAT HELP THE TITLE COMPANY CONTACT YOU? YOU BEING OUR REPRESENTATIVE FOR THE COUNTY AND US.
I MEAN I HATE TO VOLUNTEER FOR MORE WORK, BUT IF, IF IT PREVENT SOMETHING IN THE FUTURE BECAUSE I, I, I
Y'ALL ARE CLEARLY TRYING TO DO THE RIGHT THING AND, AND I'M SITTING HERE TRYING TO THINK, YOU'RE NOT REALLY CHANGING THE USE OF THE PROPERTY.
YOU'RE NOT DOING SOMETHING THAT TYPICALLY IS ASSOCIATED WITH A REPL.
THEY SAID THEY COULDN'T, IT'S YOUR PROPERTY AND YOU'RE SIMPLY GOING TO USE A PORTION OF IT TO BUILD A HOUSE.
AND I TOLD THEM I HAD NO PROBLEM WITH THEM USING THE WHOLE 11 ACRES FOR, YOU KNOW, COLLATERAL.
BUT THEY SAID YOU COULDN'T LEAVE ANY OF IT IN ORDER, YOU KNOW, FOR, TO DO THAT.
ALRIGHT, WELL, UH, THANK YOU FOR COMING FORWARD.
WE'LL NEED TO TAKE SOME ACTION ON THIS ITEM TABLE.
ALL IN FAVOR SAY I NEED TO COME BACK TO US.
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FOUND COMPANY THAT WOULD DO IT WELL, EVEN WHEN THE INTERIM LOAN IS USED UP, Y'ALL FINANCE, YOU KNOW, THE WHOLE THING TOGETHER.OWN CONCERNED IF THIS IS NOT DONE LEGALLY, LEGALLY COMPANY'S GONNA ENSURE SOMETHING THATT BEEN DONE PROPERLY.
WE MOTION WE'LL TAKE ABOUT A 10 MINUTE BREAK AND COME BACK ON ITEM NUMBER 11, WHICH IS NOT UNUSUAL.
UH, BUT THE BALLOON RELEASE FOR CASA IS NOT THIS THURSDAY.
IT'S THURSDAY WEEK ON APRIL 3RD, 12TH.
YEAH, I'LL SEND YOU AN EMAIL AND WE WILL THOUGH HAVE A MEETING THIS THURSDAY.
THE END OF THE DEFENSE BOARD WILL BE IN JUDGE JONES' OFFICE AND WE'RE POSTING THAT AS IT'LL BE IT BE THIS, BE THURSDAY AT 12.
CASEY'S DOING A WE'LL HAVE BUCKS PIECE.
I FIGURED, WE FIGURED WE CAN GET A ALRIGHTY BACK, CALL THE COURT BACK TO ORDER NOW.
NUMBER 11 IS THE LINE ITEM TRANSFER.
DID YOU GET, YOU GOT ANY QUESTIONS ON THE TRANSFERS WHILE WE'RE DOING WHAT WE'RE DOING OR ANYTHING? YEAH, YOU'RE ON THERE.
ANYBODY, UH, HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE TRANSFER? NO, I MAY A MOTION TO APPROVE MAY, MAN, THAT MOTION.
ITEM NUMBER 12 IS TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER CLAIMS FOR, UH, YOUR CLAIMS FOR PAYMENT FOR THIS COURT IS 617,000 152 44.
WE HAVE FOUR SMALL CHECKS THAT WERE MADE TO THE WRONG BID THAT WE PULLED BUT PUT INTO ANOTHER ALL.
NO, I JUST GAVE THOSE NUMBERS TO CAROL TO TRANSFER BACK.
WELL, I'VE BEEN BUSY WITH AUDITORS AND THAT'S MORE IMPORTANT THAN, OH, IF I COULD GET Y'ALLS ATTENTION, I'D LIKE TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE SHARP REPORT ON THIS.
WE'RE INTO OUR, UH, THIRD WEEK AUDITORS AND, UH, THEY REALLY LIKE THE NEW SOFTWARE.
IN FACT, THEY NEXT YEAR WITH US INVOICES INTO THE SYSTEM WHERE THEY CAN SEE THE INVOICES BECAUSE THEY USE THE SYSTEM THAT THEY PROBABLY BE OUT, THEY SHOULD BE, THAT MEANS NOT GONNA COST US AS MUCH FOR THE OUTSIDE AUDIT.
RIGHT? I CAN'T PROMISE THAT SIMPLY FOR ALL THE GRANTS, NEXT YEAR WE'LL HAVE TO HAVE A SINGLE AUDIT.
AND THAT'S GONNA COST ANYTIME YOU GET OVER 500 AGGREGATE, 500,000 AGGREGATE.
AND YOU HAVE TO HAVE A SINGLE AUDIT.
THAT'S AN ALL GRANTS PROBABLY AUDIT, SIR.
THAT'S ALL GRANTS AND EVERYTHING INCLUDED.
WE SHOULD PROBABLY HAVE A SINGLE AUDIT.
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NO, WE SEND THEM A LIST OF EVERYTHING THAT WE GOT AND THEY TELL US IF SINGLE AUDIT AND THIS NEXT YEAR WILL BE OUR FIRST YEAR.WHO HIRES THAT OUTSIDE THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT.
YOU JUST HIRED A NEW FIRM? UH, THE YEAR THAT I CAME ON BOARD IN 2012, WE, WE DID AN RFP.
ARE THEY LOCAL OR THEY'RE CLOSEST OFFICE IS WAY, WE WERE USING A FIRM THAT WAS OUT OF TYLER THAT WAS CHARGED US 7,000 AND WE, UH, REBID IT AND CAME BACK FOR A FIRM THAT I THINK THE FIRST YEAR.
SO WE HAD A THREE YEAR, I THINK WE HAD A THREE YEAR COMMITMENT THAT WE WOULD REDO.
AND I GUESS THAT'S UP NEXT YEAR.
I BUT IT, IT'S A, HAS SOME RENEWAL HIGHER.
THEY, I JUST WISH WE COULD GET UP ON THEIR CALENDAR, YOU KNOW, SO WE COULD GET THE AUDIT BACK EARLIER.
COUNTY'S TOO BIG IN THE WAY WE PAY BILLS AND THE WAY WE APPROVE STUFF THAT IT'S GONNA BE HARD TO EVER DO THAT.
THIS, THIS BROTHER PASSED AWAY.
YOU THINK BAD? NO, JUST, UH, THEY'RE ALL GOING IN DIFFERENT DIRECTIONS.
DIDN'T MENTION US AT ALL, SUPPLIER.
IT'S NICE NOT HAVING OUR ROOM.
CAUSE THE WORK DAY TOO THIS WEEK.
FIRST WE, YEAH, MY DAUGHTER WANTS A SHOW FOR NEXT YEAR.
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WELL, YOU HAVE TO DRIVE TO LIKE COLORADO I GUESS, DON'T YOU? OR SOMETHING.I MEAN SHE WANTS A DAIRY CAT, A JERSEY.
WELL WE FIND THOSE IN EAST TEXAS, SO, YEAH, I GUESS IT COULD BE WORSE.
AND WHAT THE AG TEACHERS USED TO TELL ME THEY'D HAVE TO GO OFF, COULDN'T FIND 1, 5, 600 MILES.
SHE'S FED BOTTLES EVER SINCE SHE WAS FIVE YEARS OLD.
PAID HER BANK ACCOUNT MONEY LAST HOUSTON SHOW HAD UH, ONE COME IN SECOND.
AND SO I SURE THOUGHT THE JUDGE WAS GONNA GIVE A LITTLE GIRL FIRST PLACE BECAUSE HE OVER AND IT WAS SOMETHING ABOUT THAT SHE PRESENTED.
OTHERWISE SHE SHOW AND THEN ONE THE OTHER CALVES COME IN LIKE SIX.
SO I THOUGHT DO IT FOR OUR COUNTY.
HE WASN'T THERE THE SECOND TIME.
OH, HE COULDN'T GET 200 MILES.
WELL IT OH, OH, BECAUSE THIS IS STILL NORMAL HERE.
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UNDER COMPUTER.WHAT'S TS SIR? TESM CONSULTING.
TSM IS, UM, THEY ARE, THEY ARE OUR, OUR
AND UH, THEY'RE ALSO A NOVO FOR LE NOVO DEALER.
AND WE'RE STARTING, SINCE DELL HAS BEEN RESTRUCTURED, WE'RE STARTING TO BUY MORE AFFORDABLE LENOVO.
ACTUALLY WE'RE GOING THROUGH TWO, WE'RE GOING THROUGH A COMPANY IN AUSTIN AND WE'RE GOING THROUGH THREE.
YEAH, THAT, THAT WAS FOR CRUSHED CONCRETE.
THIS IS, THIS IS, UM, THIS IS, OKAY.
WHAT, WHAT WE'RE DOING NOW IS WHAT WE'RE DOING, THIS IS A COMBINATION OF THINGS.
YOU LOOK AT THIS, YOU'LL FIND WHAT WE'RE DOING IN PATROL.
THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE IS, WE'RE MOVING AWAY FROM MORE, LEMME SEE.
SO THAT'S THE SERVER IS 3 7 49 AND YES, THAT IS THAT SERVER THAT'S REPLACING THE, UH, S SERVER.
DID YOU APPROVE THAT ALREADY? I DID.
SOMEBODY, I THOUGHT YOU, YOU ACT LIKE YOU DIDN'T KNOW WHAT IT WAS FOR.
I'M THINKING WELL, TS SOMEBODY SHOULD BE SETTING OFF ON THAT.
OH, WELL WE'RE, WE'RE DOING, THEY'RE ALSO BIDDING ON THE ARMORY PROJECT.
YOU, YOU GOT YOUR ANSWER? YES.
AND THEN YEAH, SPEEDS ARE, YEAH.
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LINDA BUSH BURNETT AND HEATHER DAVIS BAYLOR, CORRECT.DID YOU DO YOUR TIME SHEET TODAY? DID YOU APPROVE YOUR TIME SHEET? WE HAD, WE DID ADMINISTRATION.
NO, WE'RE GONNA WAIT UNTIL WE SUCCESS 6 98.
WHAT DEPARTMENT IS THAT? UM, IT TECHNICAL OUT THERE.
DO WHAT? WE GET THOSE MONTHLY COUNTY CLERK'S OFFICE.
BUT THEY WANT TO KNOW IS, SO THAT WOULD BE MULTIPLE CASES.
DID YOU LOOK AT THAT YET? DON'T SCAN THE DOCUMENTS.
YEAH, I JUST COULDN'T REMEMBER.
I COULDN'T THE TOP OF MY HEAD TO HONOR GET A PICTURE.
THAT BE ANY BUILDING JUSTICE COURT BUILDINGS, SECURITIES.
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COURTHOUSE.THIS IS JUSTICE OF THEY GOT THEIR OWN.
SO THEY, THEY'RE ALL THANK YOU, SIR.
I HAVE A MOTION TO PAY THE BILLS.
COMMISSIONER SHANE, ACCEPT MOTION.
MR. CLARK, ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH GENTLEMEN.