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IT'S A SPECIAL MEETING OF THE COMMISSIONER SCORE OF COLTON COUNTY.
WE WELCOME YOU THIS MORNING, AND IF YOU'RE HERE TO ADDRESS THE COURT, UH, WE WOULD, UH, ASK THAT YOU, UH, SIGN THE, UH, UH, SIGN IN SHEET OVER HERE.
AND THERE'S EXTRA COPIES OF THE AGENDA.
UH, WE WILL, UH, OPEN WITH AN INVITATION AND THEN WE'LL HAVE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE TO BOTH THE FLAGS.
AND THEN WE WILL HEAR, UH, ANY REMARKS FROM VISITORS THAT ARE HERE TODAY.
WE HAVE, UH, SEVERAL ITEMS ON THE AGENDA.
I KNOW WE HAVE SOME FOLKS THAT ARE HERE TODAY TO DISCUSS SOME OF THOSE ITEMS. AND SO WE WILL DO THAT IF WE MOVE THROUGH THE AGENDA.
SO YOU'LL JOIN ME IN THE OUTSTANDING, MOST GRACIOUS HEAVENLY FATHER, WE THANK YOU FOR TODAY.
WE THANK YOU, UM, FOR BLESSING THIS NATION, FOR BLESSING OUR COUNTRY IN THE WAY THAT YOU HAVE OVER THESE MANY, MANY YEARS THAT, THAT THE COUNTRY WAS ESTABLISHED.
LORD, THANK YOU FOR YOUR, UM, LOVE.
UH, THANK YOU FOR YOUR, YOUR AMAZING GRACE THAT WE DO NOT DESERVE.
UH, THANK YOU FOR PROTECTING US.
AND, UH, YOU KNOW, WE, WE ALL HAVE MOUNTAINS, UH, WHEN THINGS ARE GOING GOOD AND WE ALL HAVE VALLEYS AND WHEN THINGS ARE GOING BAD, BUT WE KNOW THROUGHOUT ALL OF THAT THAT YOU'RE WITH US.
UH, KEEP OUR TROOPS SAFE, AND, UH, ALL THOSE THAT, UH, ARE IN HARM'S WAY.
UH, THESE THINGS WERE ASKED IN MY SON'S NAME, AMEN.
TO FLAG THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS FOR ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVIDUAL WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL HONOR TEXAS FLAG.
I GLAD ALLEGIANCE TO BE TEXAS.
ONE STATE UNDER GOD, ONE AN INDIVIDUAL.
UH, JOHN, DO YOU MIND BEING THE BAILIFF THIS MORNING AND GET THE SIGN IN SHAPE? SURE.
IS THERE A PAY RAISE? YEAH, RAISE.
NOT SAYING WHEN, BUT, UH, UH, WE HAVE TWO PEOPLE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK, UH, MIKE NOTLEY AND BELO DUKES.
ARE THEY CONCERNING ITEMS ON THE AGENDA? YES.
BOTH ARE CONCERNING ITEMS. MR. NOTLEY IS ON ITEM THREE AND FOUR, AND, UH, MR. DUKES IS ON ITEM B.
THROUGH ON THE CONSENT, YOU'LL BRING THAT TO ME, SO I'LL YES, SIR.
UH, I DON'T HAVE ANY ROUTINE CORRESPONDENCE TO, UH, GIVE OUT MR. DUKES.
I THINK YOU'RE HERE TO SPEAK, UH, ON THE CONSENT AGENDA ON ITEMS B THROUGH FI THINK YOU'D LIKE TO COME FORWARD.
AND, UH, THIS IS, UH, LERO S UH, FROM, UH, HERE IN HOFFMAN.
AND, UH, YOU'D LIKE TO ADDRESS THE COURT ON ITEMS DNF UNDER THE CONSENT AGENDA.
YES, WELCOME TO OUR MEETING THIS MORNING.
UH, I DUNNO IF IT WAS BY ACCIDENT OR BY DIVINE DESIGN, BUT APPARENTLY THEY, UH, PUT THE, THE AGENDA ON PROPERTIES.
YOU MAY HAVE TO SPEAK UP THIS.
UM, CONCERN B AND FI, THEY INTEND TO QUITE MORE.
BUT, UH, ANY, ANYHOW, UH, JUST FOR THE RECORD, BUT I'VE BEEN PURCHASING THESE PROPERTIES FOR QUITE SOME TIME AND SO THE TAX OFFICE IS FAMILIAR, SO TAKE WHAT NO ONE WANTS.
ALRIGHT, SO YOU'RE SPECIFICALLY, UH, YOU HAVE AN INTEREST IN ID AND L? CORRECT.
ALRIGHT, WELL WE APPRECIATE YOUR REMARKS.
UH, TANYA, DO YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS, UH, ABOUT WHAT HE HAS JUST STATED, UH, ON THAT LIST? OH, SORRY.
HE HAS BEEN, UH, A, A REGULAR BIDDER AND I HAVE GOOD REASON TO BELIEVE WE'LL GET A BETTER BID IF WE
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DO NOT ACCEPT THESE BIDS.I THINK VERY MUCH WELL IN THAT REGARD, LEMME GO AHEAD AND READ DOWN THROUGH THE, UH, CONSENT AGENDA.
UH, THE FIRST ITEM AND THEN WE'LL, UH, DISCUSS, UH, EACH ONE OF 'EM INDIVIDUALLY IS TO ACCEPT THE MINUTES OF FEBRUARY THE 21ST, MARCH 10TH, MARCH 24TH, AND MARCH 27TH, 2014.
UH, TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER REJECTING TAX RESALE OF REFERENCE A 1 78, UH, SOUP CAUSE NUMBER 6 8 9 4 1 DASH 86.
AND THIS IS AT 1 54 THUNDER ROAD IN COFFEE COUNTY PRECINCT THREE.
ITEM C IS TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER APPROVAL OF TAX RESALE OF REFERENCE A TAX 2 0 8, UH, SUITE NUMBER 8 0 0 6 6, UH, EIGHT SIX, DESCRIBED AS, UH, SLEEPY HALL MEADOWS LOT 30.
THAT'S LOCATED AT TEN SEVEN OH NINE SLEEPY HOLLOW, KAMAN COUNTY PRECINCT THREE.
ITEM D IS TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER APPROVAL OF TAX RESALE REFERENCE NUMBER N DASH 3 3 7.
UH, DASH EIGHT SIX, UH, DESCRIBED AS 1.17 ACRES IN SURVEY PEACEFUL VALLEY ESTATES, UH, LOCATED PHYSICALLY AT COUNTY ROAD THREE 16 C IN CA, COUNTY PRECINCT NUMBER THREE.
ITEM NUMBER E IS TO, UH, DISCUSS, CONSIDER APPROVAL OF TAX RESALE, UH, NUMBER EIGHT DASH TWO TWO OH AND A DASH 2 21.
SUIT NUMBER 8 1 3 3 3 DASH 86.
DESCRIBED AS ORIGINAL TOWNSIDE OF MAYBANK, UH, LOTS 39 44 AND LOT 22 LOT FOUR.
THAT'S IN COUNTY COMMISSION PRECINCT NUMBER FOUR.
UM, F IS TO DISCUSS, CONSIDER APPROVAL OF TAX FREE SALE OF REFERENCE NUMBER A DASH 2 3 5, SUIT NUMBER 8 0 5 82 86, DESCRIBED AS ABR ESTATES LOT NUMBER TWO, UH, LOT 43, PHYSICAL ADDRESS OF 14 6 42, ALICIA PLACE AT COFF COUNTY PRECINCT NUMBER FOUR.
AND THEN ITEM NUMBER G IS TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER APPROVING REQUEST, UH, REQUEST FOR PERFORMERS ELECTRIC COOPERATIVE TO CONSTRUCT ELECTRICAL POWER DISTRIBUTION FACILITIES IN COUNTY ROAD TWO, TWO OH, ALSO KNOWN AS UNIVERSITY IN COUNTY PRECINCT TWO.
GENTLEMEN, YOU'VE HEARD THE, UH, INCENTIVE AGENDA THAT I HAVE DISCUSSION ON THE ITEMS THAT WERE BROUGHT TO OUR ATTENTION HERE JUST A FEW MONTHS AGO.
ITEM NUMBER, UH, I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT, UH, THAT WE REJECT ITEM B AND F.
BASED ON THE, BASED ON THE LOW BID, WE WAS ALREADY REJECTED.
YEAH, WE GOT, IT WAS LISTED AS A REJECT.
I MEAN, YOUR, UH, MOTION WOULD BE TO REJECT ME.
THE OTHER DISCUSSION, NO DISCUSSION OTHER THAN, UH, I'M KIND OF CURIOUS ABOUT THE POWER LINE.
IT'S NOT, IS THAT A TRANSMISSION LINE? S 25.
I HAVE A MOTION FROM, UH, COMMISSIONER MANNING TO, UH, APPROVE EVERYTHING EXCEPT ITEMS B AND A.
WE WOULD REJECT THOSE, UH, ON THE CONSENTED AGENDA.
DO I HAVE A SECOND, SECOND MOTION FOR DISCUSSION ON I, AYE, THOSE OPPOSED? UH, NEXT ITEM IS, UH, ITEM NUMBER THREE, WHICH IS TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER APPRO A MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING BETWEEN THE TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION, DALLAS DISTRICT, AND THE COUNTY OF KAMAN AND TRINITY MATERIALS INCORPORATED FOR KAUFFMAN COUNTY ROAD 3 46 ROAD IMPROVEMENT FROM FM 27 28 TO KAMAN COUNTY ROAD, UH, THREE, FOUR.
AND MR. KNOTLEY, I'VE BELIEVE YOU'RE HERE TO, UH, DISCUSS, UH, NOT ONLY THAT ITEM, BUT ITEM NUMBER FOUR.
AND SINCE THEY'RE ON THE AGENDA, IF YOU'D LIKE TO COME FORWARD AND THANK YOU, UH, SHARE WITH US YOUR, UH, YOUR COMMENTS ON, UH, THREE, AND THEN IF YOU WANNA GET OFF IN FOUR, NO, THE COMMENTS, UH, RUN TOGETHER THERE.
UH, I WAS READING THE, UH, MEMORANDUM OF AGREEMENT AND, UH, OR MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING OF THE CONSTRUCTION AGREEMENT.
AND I NOTED THE, UH, THAT YOU ANTICIPATED INCREASED TRUCK TRAFFIC AND I THOUGHT I WOULD FLESH THAT OUT SO THAT WE, UH, COULD BETTER UNDERSTAND THE FOLKS THAT LIVE OUT ON THE ROAD.
UH, WHAT THAT MEANS, AND IF YOU'VE HEARD THIS BEFORE, I APOLOGIZE TO SOMEBODY
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YOU PROBABLY HAVE, BUT, UH, TRINITY ORIGINALLY, UH, HAS TCEQ TO MINE APPROXIMATELY 1.8 MILLION TONS OF AGGREGATE YEAR.UH, TO HAUL THAT WITH TRUCKS, 25 YARD TRUCKS, THAT TAKES 72,000 TRUCKS A YEAR.
OKAY? AND THAT NUMBER DIDN'T MEAN A WHOLE LOT TO ME, BUT IF YOU WORK, UH, SIX DAYS A WEEK AND 12 HOURS A DAY, THAT TAKES 230 TRUCKLOADS A DAY, 230 50 AND 234, THAT'S 460 TIMES A DAY.
THEY'RE GONNA PASS MY GETTING 12 HOUR DAY 7:00 AM 7:00 PM 720 MINUTES.
THAT MEANS EVERY MINUTE AND 34 SECONDS, ANOTHER TRUCK'S GONNA PASS IN MY HOUSE, OKAY? DAY AFTER DAY, THE NEXT 10, 15 YEARS, THAT'S MORE THAN JUST AN IN CONTINUOUS, THE WASTE TO AFFECT THAT NUMBER TRAINING CAN MINE LESS MATERIAL.
UH, WE COULD HAVE 'EM OPERATE, UH, MORE DAYS A WEEK, SEVEN DAYS A WEEK, AND THAT WOULD CUT DOWN THE NUMBER OF TRUCKS PER DAY.
BUT IF THEY TAKE OFF TIME FOR HOLIDAYS, ONLY WORK FIVE DAYS A WEEK, THE AMOUNT OF TRUCKS PER DAY IS GOING TO GO UP.
MY REQUEST IS THAT WHEN YOU CONSIDER THIS AGREEMENT THAT YOU DO THE MATH THING, THIS IS A BIG DEAL FOR THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE ON JANUARY 3, 4, 6.
ANYWAY, I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.
MR. AND MR, JUST SO YOU'LL KNOW, WE HAVE DISCUSSED THIS ITEM, UH, BEFORE, UH, SEVERAL TIMES ACTUALLY, I THINK NOT ON PARTICULARLY ON THE 3 46, BUT ON OTHER AREA ROADS IN, IN THAT GENERAL AREA.
AND, UH, OBVIOUSLY, UH, AS WE'VE STATED BEFORE, WE DO NOT HAVE ANY, UH, CONTROL OVER THE PERMITTING PROCESS THAT GOES THROUGH HOUSTON.
THAT'S, THAT'S THE STATE OF TEXAS.
UH, WE DO HAVE CONTROL OVER COUNTY 43 4 COUNTY ROAD 3 46.
AS FAR AS THE CONDITION OF THE ROAD.
WE CANNOT LEGALLY, SINCE IT IS A PUBLIC ROAD, WE CANNOT LEGALLY PROHIBIT TRAFFIC ON THAT ROAD TRUCK TRAFFIC OR ANY TRAFFIC, UH, UNLESS THERE'S SOME, YOU KNOW, MAJOR VIOLATION OF THE LAW.
UH, THIS ALL CAME ABOUT, UH, WITH AN AGREEMENT THAT WE WERE APPROACHED BY THE TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION AND, UH, TRINITY MATERIALS TO IMPROVE THE ROAD AND MAKE IT THIS FREE, UH, WHICH WOULD BE HELPFUL, OBVIOUSLY WE BELIEVE.
UH, AND, UH, BUT AS FAR AS TRINITY MATERIALS AS A PRIVATE COMPANY, UH, THEY OPERATE WITHIN THE CONFINES OF, YOU KNOW, NORMALLY WHAT THEY DO.
UH, SO WE HAVE LITTLE CONTROL OVER THE OPERATION OF THEIR, THEIR MINING OPERATION.
UH, BUT IT WAS A WAY, I THINK THAT THEY WERE TRYING TO STEP FORWARD AND SAY THAT HERE'S WHAT WE WERE TRY TO DO BECAUSE WE ARE GOING TO BE IN THIS AREA, UH, FOR QUITE SOME TIME.
AND, UH, I UNDERSTAND, UH, IF I HAD A HOME ON THAT ROAD WITH THE AMOUNT OF TRUCK TRAFFIC THAT'S GOING UP THERE, I FEEL EXACTLY THE WAY YOU DO.
BUT AS FAR AS ANY LIMITATIONS WE CAN PROVIDE, I'M NOT SURE WE CAN DO THAT OTHER THAN TRYING TO HAVE A MUCH BETTER ROAD THAN WHAT IS CURRENTLY OUT THERE NOW.
SO COMMISSIONERS, ANYBODY HAVE ANY COMMENTS ABOUT ANY OF THE ANYTHING? WELL, IT'S, YOU KNOW, UNFORTUNATE THAT, THAT, UH, THE TRAFFIC'S GONNA BE THERE, BUT ROAD MATERIALS ARE FOUND, YOU KNOW, WHEREVER THEY'RE FOUND IT'S WAY DOWN THAT ROAD IS, THAT'S WHERE THEY HAVE TO BE MINED.
UM, THERE IS A SHORTAGE OF ROCK, YOU KNOW, IN THE CONSTRUCTION INDUSTRY.
UM, LIKE I SAID, I WOULDN'T WANNA LIVE ON THAT ROAD EITHER, BUT THAT INCREASED TRAFFIC.
BUT, UM, AND I'M SURE THAT TRINITY WOULD PREFER TO MINE RIGHT? INTERSTATE OR STATE HIGHWAY, BUT UNFORTUNATELY MATERIALS ARE NOT ALWAYS LOCATED THERE.
I DO FEEL FOR THE RESIDENTS, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, THE CONSTRUCTION HAS TO GO ON AND, AND THEY HAVE TO HAVE MATERIALS FOR CONSTRUCTION.
WE HAVE NO WAY OF STOPPING IT.
SO I JUST APPLAUDED TRINITY AND TDO FOR WORKING WITH THE COUNTY TO IMPROVE THE ROAD TO BRING IT UP TO A STANDARD THAT'S NEVER BEEN BEFORE.
AND I THINK IT'S A GOOD THING IS THEY PARTNER WITH THE COUNTY ANDILE.
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A PLACE AND WORRY ABOUT THE TRINITY.WELL, UH, MR. NOTLEY, UH, THE JUDGE AND I, AFTER I COME BACK INTO OFFICE, WAS DISCUSSING THIS ROAD HERE AND WE WAS ABLE TO BRING TRINITY AND TDOT INTO PLAY ON US HAVING A BETTER ROAD FOR YOU PEOPLE DOWN HERE IN THAT, ON 3 46 TO DRIVE.
AND WE ARE REALLY PLEASED THAT THEY STEPPED UP TO THE TABLE TO PUT Y'ALL SOMETHING IN DOWN THAT'S NICE.
GONNA BE EQUIVALENT TO A FARM MARKET ROAD, WHICH IS TAKEN CARE OF VERY WELL BY US THEN AFTER IT IS PUT THERE.
BUT THEY'VE STEPPED UP TO THE PLATE TO HELP THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT.
ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY COMMENTS? HAVE WE THOUGHT, OR KEN, HAVE YOU THOUGHT ABOUT THE REPERCUSSIONS ON THE AMOUNT OF TIME IT'S GOING TO TAKE YOU TO DO THIS ROAD AND, UH, I THINK THAT THERE'S GONNA BE SOME ISSUES ON SOME RIGHT OF WAY AND HOW ADDRESS BIT BETTER? BECAUSE I, I BELIEVE WHAT I HEARD HAS GONNA TAKE LIKE 27 INCHES OF BASE.
WOULD THAT BE CORRECT? NOW HOW YOU, THIS IS HOW STANFORD WITH, UH, OUR AREA ENGINEER, WOULD YOU LIKE TO COME UP AND ADDRESS THIS, UH, WITH US AS WELL.
AND MATT, IF SINCE YOU'RE HERE, WE'LL JUST ASK YOU TO COME UP AS WELL, IF YOU DON'T MIND WITH THE TRENDS, THE, UH, MATERIALS.
THE, THE DESIGN IS 21 INCHES OF OH, 21 FLEX BASE ON THAT ROAD.
WHAT ABOUT THE GEOGRAPHIC ALTERNATIVE? ARE THEY GOING TO BE, ARE THEY GONNA HAVE BE SOME RIGHT OF WAY PURCHASE TO STRAIGHTEN THOSE OUT? OR ARE YOU GONNA BE ABLE TO GET THOSE OR TRUSTEE TO MAKE THOSE TERMS? WELL, OUR ROLE IS, IS, UH, IS TO, IS TO ASSIST WITH THE ENGINEERING AND SO WE'LL BE GLAD TO MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS ON THAT.
AND WHAT CURRENTLY, UH, WITHIN THE RIGHT OF WAY THAT EXISTS NOW? UH, I THINK THOSE CURVES WOULD BE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF A 25 MILE PER HOUR CURVES, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN.
UM, IS WHAT OUR FOLKS HAVE HAVE DESIGNED SO FAR, UH, IN ORDER TO GET A 30 MILE PER HOUR CURVE OF THE THREE, I THINK THERE ARE THREE CURVES AND I BELIEVE ONE OF 'EM YOU COULD GO 30 MILES PER HOUR WITHIN THE EXISTING RIGHT OF WAY.
UH, ONE OF 'EM WOULD REQUIRE YOU THE, THE FENCE TO MOVE APPROXIMATELY 20 FEET OVER.
AND THE, THE MOST SEVERE ONE, I THINK WOULD REQUIRE A FENCE TO MOVE ABOUT 30 FEET, UH, IN ORDER TO GET 30 MILE PER HOUR CURBS THROUGH THERE.
SO THAT'S KIND OF WHERE WHAT WE WOULD RECOMMEND A COMMISSIONER SHANE.
YEAH, BUT IT WOULD NOT BE A REQUIREMENT, JUST BE RECOMMENDATION, RIGHT? BECAUSE WE ARE, OUR ROLE IN THIS IS, IS, UH, IS THE DESIGN OF THE ROAD.
WE'RE, WE'RE WE TO PROVIDE GEOMETRIC UH, GUIDANCE, I GUESS, YOU KNOW, FOR YOU, I'M GLAD THAT TRINITY'S IS FURNISHING ALL THIS MATERIAL WITH, I JUST WANNA MAKE THE COURT, LET THE COURT BE AWARE.
UH, SO UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES, IT NOT HAPPENING AND ESPECIALLY IT'S GOING AFFECT WHAT IT'S GONNA AFFECT YOU SOLELY PRECINCT THREE OVER, THERE'S THE AMOUNT OF MATERIAL'S GOING TAKE TO DO THAT.
THE TIME IS GONNA TO PUT THAT, IS THERE GOING BE SOME, ARE YOU GOING TO LOWER THE ROAD TO GET 21 INCHES? ARE YOU GONNA RAISE TO LOAD UP 21 INCHES? AND IF YOU DO THAT, HOW DO YOU ADDRESS THE DITCHES AND ALSO OUR DRIVEWAYS IF YOU'VE GOT ALL THAT FIGURED OUT.
THAT'S, THAT'S ALL I, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT THAT.
YES, SIR, WE ARE, AND WE ARE THINKING ABOUT IT.
WE, WE'VE GOT SOME PRELIMINARY CROSS SECTIONS WHERE WE PLOTTED AND PLACED THE 21 INCHES ON TOP OF WHAT'S THERE.
NOW THE DESIGN TOOK INTO ACCOUNT THE ROW BED THAT'S THERE NOW.
AND WE, WE'VE GOT, UH, PRELIMINARY CROSS SECTIONS, I THINK EVERY 500 FEET WHERE WE PLOTTED TO SEE IF WE FEEL LIKE IT'S GONNA SIT WITHIN THE RIGHT OF WAY THAT'S THERE.
AND IT LOOKS LIKE FOR THE MOST PART IT'LL, UM, AND LET'S SEE, THAT'S ONE OF THE DEEP COUNTY ROAD LOOKS LIKE IT ACTUALLY HAS A 60 FOOT AT 2020.
YEAH, IT'S, IT'S A HUGE RIGHT OF WAY.
GOT A COUPLE OF LITTLE NARROW, IT'S GOT A COUPLE OF PINCH POINTS THAT HAVE TO BE ADDRESSED, A COUPLE CURVES, BUT FOR THE MOST PART IT HAS A, IT HAS A HUGE, RIGHT, SO THE ROADS GONNA BE BUILT UP 21 INCHES.
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ABOUT THE DRIVEWAYS, THAT ROAD? I MEAN, ARE ALL THOSE DRIVEWAYS GOING UPHILL NOW OR DOWNHILL OR LEVEL OR WHAT? I MEAN THERE, I DON'T KNOW THERE ANY DRIVEWAYS ON THAT ROAD STREET? OH, RIGHT NOW THEY'RE LEVEL, BUT YOU KNOW, THEY'RE, BUT THAT GIVEN RIGHT OF AWAY, THEY'LL BE ABLE TO SMOKE WITHOUT ANY PROBLEM.I SAID IT'S A WIDE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? HOW, OR YOU WANT ANY, YOU'D LIKE TO ADDRESS THE COURT WHILE WE'RE TALKING? SO FIRST OFF, THANK YOU, UH, AGAIN FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO, UH, TO WORK IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE, WITH THE COUNTY AND ALSO WITH TXDOT.
AND, YOU KNOW, OUR, OUR PURPOSE IS NOT TO, NOT TO BE BAD NEIGHBORS.
OUR PURPOSE IS TO BE RESPONSIBLE NEIGHBORS THAT, THAT MINIMIZE THE IMPACT TO OUR NEIGHBORS.
AND, UH, AND I THINK THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, PUTTING IN A GOOD ROAD IS, IS ONE OF THOSE WAYS THAT WE CAN DO THAT.
UM, AND, AND IN RESPONSE TO MR. NOTLEY'S, UH, COMMENT ON 1.8 AND, UM, MR. NOTLEY, I, I CAN CERTAINLY UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, YOUR YOUR CONCERN ABOUT THAT AND, UM, THE WAY THE TCQ PERMIT IS WRITTEN, IT'S WRITTEN WITH A MAXIMUM PER HOUR AND THEN, AND THEN A MAXIMUM PER DAY, AND THEN A MAXIMUM PER PER WEEK TYPE OF SCENARIO.
THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT WE'RE GOING TO ACTUALLY PRODUCE THAT MAXIMUM.
AND IF, IF, IF YOU TAKE SAY, THE LAST FIVE YEARS WORTH OF PRODUCTION NUMBERS, WE, WE DON'T COME ANYWHERE EVEN CLOSE TO THAT, BUT IT ALLOWS OUR OPERATION TO HAVE THE FLEXIBILITY SO THAT IF IF THEY BREAK DOWN FOR A WEEK OR TWO WEEKS, THEY CAN RUN, YOU KNOW, THAT LONGER PERIOD OF TIME, UM, TO KIND OF GET CAUGHT BACK UP.
SO, SO DO I ACTUALLY ANTICIPATE 1.8 MILLION TONS COMING OUT THERE OUT OF THERE IN A YEAR? NO, NO.
I, I, I DON'T THINK THAT, I DON'T THINK THAT, UH, EVEN A MILLION TONS HAS COME OUT OF THIS FORMATION IN, IN ABOUT, I WANT TO SAY 10 YEARS THAT, THAT, THAT'S AT A MILLION TONS.
SO, UM, I GUESS WHAT I'M SAYING IS THAT'S ONLY 40,000 TRUCKS A YEAR.
YEAH, SO, SO IT WOULD BE, IT WOULD BE CONSIDERABLY LESS, BUT IT'S STILL GOING TO BE AN INCONVENIENCE TO YOU GUYS.
AND SO HOPEFULLY THIS ROAD WILL HELP WITH THAT INCONVENIENCE AND MAKE IT SAFE.
AND, AND THERE'S SOME OTHER COMPONENTS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT TOO, UM, WITH TDOT TO, TO FURTHER ENHANCE THE SAFETY, NOT ON THE COUNTY ROADS, BUT, UH, ON, ON HIGHWAY 80, BECAUSE THERE'S STILL AN ISSUE OF HOW DO YOU GET OUT SO YOU CAN GET TO 27, 28, BUT THAT'S NOT THE END DESTINATION.
AND SO WE'RE WORKING WITH THEM AND LOOKING AT, AT, UH, SOME OTHER COMPONENTS THAT, UH, WILL HOPEFULLY MAKE IT SAFE IN, IN, IN ALL ASPECTS, NOT JUST, NOT JUST IN THIS ONE SMALL ASPECT.
SO, BUT, UH, THANK YOU ALL AND, UH, UM, I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME AND I APPRECIATE, UH, THE INPUT THAT, UH, ALL THE COMMISSIONERS AND, AND YOUR HONOR IS THAT ON THIS PROJECT AND WE JUST LOOK TO, TO CONTINUE TO, TO BUILD THIS RELATIONSHIP NOT TO
ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY COMMENTS? HOW IF, UH, IF I MAY, I MAY ADD THAT, UM, BECAUSE OF THE TRINITY'S PLANS, TEXTILE HAS MADE ADJUSTMENTS IN OUR FOUR YEAR PLAN REGARDING FM 27 28 FROM US 80 NORTH FM 4 29.
UH, WE HAD THAT AS A KIND OF A MINOR REHAB PROJECT SCHEDULED FOR A COUPLE YEARS OUT.
BUT IN LIGHT OF THIS DEVELOPMENT, UH, WE'VE MOVED IT UP IN OUR PLAN TO, TO THIS YEAR IT'S SCHEDULED TO, TO LET IN JUNE OF THIS YEAR TO DO A, A MORE MAJOR REHAB PROJECT, UM, WITHIN THOSE LIMITS.
AND, UH, WE INCREASED IT FROM WHAT WE HAD PROJECTED AS A $4.3 MILLION PROJECT TO RIGHT AT A $10 MILLION PROJECT.
AND, UM, WE ARE GOING TO ADD TURN LANES AT COUNTY ROAD 3 46 AS PART OF THAT REHAB.
AND, AND WE WERE WORKING ON A, AN AGREEMENT WITH TRINITY INDUSTRIES, UH, WHICH, WHICH IS CAUGHT THE ATTENTION OF AUSTIN.
UH, YOU KNOW, AUSTIN IS STATEWIDE DEALING WITH, UM, ENERGY, ENERGY SECTOR, ROADS AND THE IMPACT OF THE, THE ENERGY BOOM ON, ON ROADS.
AND SO THEY'RE, THEY'RE VERY INTERESTED IN, IN THE WAY TRINITY HAS, HAS STEPPED UP ON THIS ONE AND HAS COMMITTED TO DONATING,
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UM, MATERIALS, UM, TO, TO COUNTER THE, THE IMPACT OF THEIR TRUCKS ON OUR ROADS.AND SO JUST AS WITH YOU, THEY'RE ALSO WORKING WITH US AND YOU KNOW, I THINK IT'LL HELP THE PUBLIC.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I HAVE A, I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THIS NUMBER THREE ON HERE, UH, FOR MR. MAN WHO WORKED FOR TRINITY.
UH, THIS SAYS THAT FOR ANY REASON OTHER THAN AN EARTHQUAKE, TORNADO, FLOOD OR SIMILAR EVENT OF NATURE, TRINITY'S CONTEMPLATED OR ACTUAL USE OF 3 46 IS DISRUPTIVE OR TERMINATED.
TR SHALL BE RELIEF FROM ANY THEN REMAINING OBLIGATION TO PROVIDE CONSTRUCTION MATERIAL WITHOUT COST IN THE COUNTY INCREASE TO REIMBURSE TRINITY LOSSES OR DAMAGE SUSTAINED BY, AS A RESULT OF TRINITY'S INABILITY TO OPERATE THE PLANT AND OR TRANSPORT AREAS FROM THE PLANT.
UM, GIVE ME A, UM, I REALIZE THAT, THAT, UH, GIVE ME A SCENARIO WHERE THIS WOULD BE IN EFFECT WHERE THAT WOULD TAKE EFFECT.
SO A GOOD EXAMPLE, I GUESS WOULD BE, UM, IN OTHER WORDS, IF A FUTURE COMMISSIONER COURT COME IN AND SAID WE'RE GOING TO RESTRICT TRUCK TRAFFIC ON THAT ROAD, THAT WOULD BE YES, THAT WOULD BE AN EXAMPLE THEN, THEN THE COUNTY, THEN THE COUNTY WOULD'VE TO COME BACK, PAY FOR ALL THIS WORK'S BEEN DONE WOULD REIMBURSE US FOR YES.
SO, SO IT IT, IT'S SORT OF A PROTECTION FOR US, IF YOU WILL, SORT OF INSURANCE FOR US.
WELL, THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYS, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T BUILD A ROAD AND THEN GET KICKED OFF THE ROAD ROAD.
AND THEN, AND THEN AS PART OF THAT, THAT YOU NEED, YOU GOTTA NEED COURT COMING IN AND THAT'S NEXT YEAR OR SO, THAT KIND OF KIND OF CONCERN.
YOU KNOW, I DON'T WANNA LEAVE THE COUNTY HANGING OUT FOR SOMETHING THAT SOMEBODY IN THE FUTURE MIGHT OR MIGHT NOT.
OUR, OF COURSE, OUR ABILITY LEGALLY, AND JOHN, YOU CAN FEEL FREE TO JUMP IN HERE.
OUR OUR ABILITY LEGALLY TO PROHIBIT TRUCK TRAFFIC ON THAT ROAD IS PRETTY NON-EXISTENT TRAFFIC.
MY, MY THOUGHT IS THAT THIS KIND OF ADDRESSES THE SITUATIONS WHERE THERE WOULD BE A LAWSUIT THAT WOULD STOP THEM OR, OR, OR SOMETHING OTHER THAN AN ACT OF GOD.
AND UH, WELL, IF SOMEBODY FILES A LAWSUIT AND, AND STOPS IT, WE DON'T HAVE ANY, ANY POWER OVER THAT WHERE WE'D BE, IN OTHER WORDS, YOU THINK FILED A LAWSUIT WE WANTED NO, BUT WE PROBABLY BE A PARTY TO THAT BECAUSE IT'S OUR ROAD.
SO YEAH, IT, IT, IT, IT, IT'S EFFECTIVELY SAYING WE'D WANT TO PAY FOR A ROAD THAN HAVE YOU SUE US TO STOP.
THE, THE INTENT IS NOT FOR TRINITY TO, UM, BECOME RICH OR, OR HAVE THIS, HAVE THIS ABILITY TO RECOUP ITS COSTS.
YOU KNOW, THE, THE INTENT OF IT IS, IS THAT, UM, IF THAT WERE TO OCCUR, THAT WE WOULD BE REIMBURSED BACK TO COSTS FOR, FOR THOSE LOSSES.
SO, UM, YOU KNOW, IT, IT, I DON'T THINK IT TRIES TO GO BEYOND THAT IN, IN, IN THE SCOPE AND BREADTH OF THE, OF THE, OF THE LANGUAGE.
UM, BUT ALSO AT THE SAME TIME, WHEN IT TALKS ABOUT ACTS OF GOD, WE, WE DON'T, WE DON'T EXPECT THE COUNTY TO HAVE TO PAY FOR SOMETHING THAT THEY WOULDN'T BE RESPONSIBLE FOR.
SO IT'S, IN OTHER WORDS, IF, IF THE COUNTY DECIDES TO COME IN AND SHUT THAT OFF, SAY TRINITY, I'M SORRY, YOU'RE JUST NOT GOING TO USE THIS ROAD ANYMORE, THEN, THEN WE, THEN WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO RECOUP THE COSTS FOR THE COUNTY, SHUTTING IT DOWN.
SO, WELL, I JUST DIDN'T WANT TO LEAVE THE COUNTY HANGING OUT FOR LIABILITY, UH, BY SOMETHING, UM, UNFORESEEN IN THE FUTURE.
I WANT TO BE, I JUST WANNA BE SURE WE WERE CLEAR ON, I THINK.
AND, AND, AND TO SORT OF, TO THAT POINT, YOU KNOW, THE, UM, UH, MR. SHANE AND, AND, UH, JUDGE WOOD, THEY, THEY'VE INCLUDED A, A PROVISION IN THERE FOR MAINTENANCE SO THAT WE WE'RE, WE, WE PAY FOR THE, UM, MAINTENANCE MATERIAL COSTS SO THAT THE COUNTY ISN'T OUT ON IT.
SO THIS, IT KIND OF, KIND OF GOES BOTH WAYS AND HOPEFULLY THIS IS, THIS IS, YOU KNOW, AT A VERY FAIR, UM, AGREEMENT IN THAT REGARD.
THE, THE FIRST ITEM WE HAVE DEALING WITH THIS IS ITEM THREE, AND IT IS THE LETTER OF AGREEMENT
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OR MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING BETWEEN TDOT, TAMAN COUNTY AND UH, TR MATERIALS.AND THAT'S THE DISCUSSION AT THIS POINT.
AND THEN THE NEXT ITEM, ITEM NUMBER FOUR, TOM, WHICH IS ONE WE KIND OF TALKED ABOUT, THAT'S WHERE THE CONTRACT IS BETWEEN TAMAN COUNTY AND TRINITY MATERIALS AS FAR AS THE ONGOING MAINTENANCE OF THIS, UH, NEW ROAD THAT WE'LL HAVE OR THIS IMPROVED ROAD HAVE.
SO DO I HAVE A, I THINK I NEED TO GO AHEAD, READ THIS ITEM, UH, DISCUSSION TAKE PLACE BEFORE WE ACTUALLY, BUT THAT'S NOT A PROBLEM.
DISCUSSED AND CONSIDER APPROVING MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING FROM TDOT DALLAS DISTRICT, COUNTY OF KAMAN TRINITY MATERIALS FOR KAMAN COUNTY ROAD 3, 4 6, MET 27 28 KAMAN COUNTY ROAD 3 4 7.
I MAY HAVE READ THAT, BUT I READ AGAIN.
SO DID I HAVE A MOTION CONCERNING SAME.
A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER SHANE.
IN FACT, YOU MIGHT JUST HANG AROUND A LITTLE BIT HERE.
ITEM NUMBER FOUR, UH, HAS TO DO BETWEEN, UH, TRINITY MATERIALS AND, UH, COUNTY.
AS I JUST MENTIONED A FEW MOMENTS AGO, THIS IS A SEPARATE AGREEMENT WHERE TRINITY MATERIALS, UH, STEPS UP, SAID WE WILL MAINTAIN THE ROAD DURING THE TIME WE'RE IN OPERATION AT THIS PARTICULAR FACILITY.
AND, UH, UH, JOHN I THINK HAS LOOKED OVER THIS AS WELL AND ACTUALLY ADDED, UH, ITEM NUMBER FIVE, UH, TO THAT AS WELL, WHICH WAS ACCEPTABLE BY, UH, TRINITY MATERIALS.
AND THIS IS THE, UH, UH, THIS IS THE AGREEMENT THAT WOULD, UH, UH, REQUIRE THEM TO MAINTAIN THE ROAD FOR THE PERIOD OF TIME THAT THEY'RE OPERATING.
YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, UH, ABOUT IT? INITIALLY WE HAD TALKED ABOUT IT BE 15 YEARS, UH, BUT CAME BACK AND SAID, WE DON'T KNOW HOW LONG WE'LL BE THERE.
WE'LL MAINTAIN AS LONG AS THIS IS AN OPERATION.
I HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ANYBODY? I THINK IT'S A GREAT DEAL FOR THE COUNTY.
UH, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I'LL PREPARE A MOTION TO, UH, ACCEPT THIS AGREEMENT AS, UH, PRESENTED A MOTION FOR COMMISSIONER SHANE.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
ITEM NUMBER, UH, FOUR IS UH, TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER AN RFP NUMBER OH ONE DASH 14 TRANSPORTATION CLEANING FUNDING AND PROGRAM MANAGEMENT MATERIALS.
AND JACK, YOU HAVE GOOD MORNING, JIM.
UH, WE'VE SENT OUT SEVERAL, UH, RFPS FOR THIS PRO PROJECT, UH, BY 10 OR 15, AND WE HAVE HAD ONE COME BACK, THIS PRETTY SPECIALIZED SITUATION.
AND, UH, WE REVIEWED THE RP FROM INNOVATIVE TRANSPORTATION SOLUTIONS INCORPORATED NICHOL, AND MAKE THAT RECOMMENDATION BASED ON, UH, OF OKAY, THIS IS THE, UH, GROUP OF ASSISTING US OF COURSE DURING OUR CLEANING PROCESS THAT WE WENT THROUGH FOR THE COUNTY BOND PROGRAM.
AND THIS WOULD ALLOW THEM TO CONTINUE AND THAT ROLE AND, AND ASSIST US, UM, OBTAINING THE, UH, ADDITIONAL FUNDING THAT WE HOPE BECOMES AVAILABLE THROUGH, UH, THROUGH THIS GROUP.
HAVE ANY DISCUSSION ABOUT SAME? I'D LIKE TO MAKE THE CONTRACT AND A LITTLE AS YOU WELL KNOW, SOMETHING LIKE THIS WE DON'T KNOW A LOT ABOUT.
I DO A LOT OF RESEARCH WITH, UH, MY COHORTS IN THE STATE AND I SENT THIS RF Q TO AN ENGINEER FRIEND OF MINE THAT WAS NOT INTERESTED IN BID ON THIS.
AND HE CALLED ME BACK AND TOLD ME WE MUST HAVE THE SMARTEST PERSON AGENT IN THE STATE OF TEXAS TO PRODUCE THIS RFQ.
REALLY? HE SAID IT WAS EXCELLENT.
HE WAS NOT INTERESTED IN DOING THIS.
HE SAID IT WAS AN EXCELLENT R FQ AND I WANTED TO VAN JACK FOR PROVIDING THAT FOR US.
TRUE IS YOU'RE GONNA NEED TO PRESENT TOO.
I'M GONNA NEED SEVERAL COPIES OF THAT TAPE, Y'ALL.
ALRIGHT, THANK YOU FOR SHARING THAT.
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DO I HAVE A MOTION? I'LL MAKE A MOTION.WE HAVE A MOTION FROM, UH, COMMISSIONER CLARK.
I SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER MANNING, TORY, UH, TO APPROVE A TRANSPORTATION PLANNING FUNDING AND PROGRAM MANAGEMENT SERVICES, UH, WITH, UH, ITS.
DO I HAVE A, UH, DO HAVE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY I I OPPOSED MR. PO.
OKAY, JOHN, WOULD YOU LIKE TO STAND AND LET US INTRODUCE YOU? YOU'VE MET SOME OF THESE FOLKS.
YOU WERE WITH US IN HELPING US PLAN THE, UH, THE COUNTY TRANSPORTATION BOND, WHICH, UH, WE, UH, ULTIMATELY VERY SUCCESSFULLY PASSED.
AND, UH, JOHN WILL BE OUR WILL BE WORKING WITH US AND, UH, EACH OF THE COMMISSIONERS, EACH OF THE CITIES, IF WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS PROCESS OF FACT, HE'S ALREADY, UH, BEEN HELPING US IN THAT REGARD.
LIKE SAID, HE'S PROBABLY ALREADY SAVED US AS MUCH MONEY SO FAR THAT WE'RE GONNA PAY HIM FOR THE REST OF THE YEAR.
WELL, YOU KNOW, I'M REMINDED OF, UH, JESUS WHEN HE FED THE CRAB OF, UH, WHAT FIVES OF BREAD AND TWO FISH OR 2 5, 2 FISH OR FIVE WHATEVER, AND HE TURNED THAT IN.
HE FED A CROWD OF SEVERAL THOUSAND PEOPLE.
AND SO WE'RE GONNA SEE JOHN TAKE THIS 56 MILLION AND LIVE.
OKAY, JOHN, THAT'S SCRIPTURAL.
ALRIGHT, MY, MY, MY PASTOR'S DOING, UH, PARABLES EVERY SUNDAY.
AND, AND I THINK WE JUST HEARD THAT, YOU KNOW, SO IT KIND OF CAME TO MIND.
SO, ALRIGHT, WE HAVE A, WE, NO, OKAY, WE HAVE A MOTION.
UH, UNDER ITEM FOUR, I GUESS, ARTICLE BEFORE UNDER EXPENSES, IN ADDITION TO PAYMENT OF THE ANNUAL FEES, UH, TON COUNTY UNDERSTANDS AND AGREES TO REIMBURSE IS FOR ALL EXPENSES INCURRED IN CONNECTION WITH ENGAGEMENT RELATED TO SUB CONSULTS, GRAPHIC.
JOHN, WHAT WOULD THAT BE? THOSE ONE OF MY QUESTIONS WHEN I SENT THE EMAIL AND I THINK YOU TALKED EITHER JOHN, WHOEVER HAS THE, I'M SORRY.
MY RESPONSE TO, UH, JOHN WAS, I PROBABLY NEED TO FIND A BETTER WAY TO SAY THAT.
UH, TYPICALLY WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS IF WE NEED TO MEET A DEADLINE AND WE'LL POST, UH, ADVERTISEMENTS IN THE PAPERS BECAUSE A LOT OF TIMES WHEN THE COUNTY DOES SOMETHING ON BEHALF OF THE STATE, THERE ARE REGULATORY REQUIREMENTS FOR POSTING, UH, NOTICES IN THE PAPER.
AND A LOT OF TIMES IT'S JUST EASIER FOR US TO DO, GO AHEAD AND PAY FOR IT AND IT'S, BUT WE'LL GO SEEK REIMBURSEMENT, UH, REQUEST BEFORE WE DO THAT.
UH, COURIER COPIES, PHONES, STUFF LIKE THAT.
IT'S JUST LIKE IF WE NEED A TENT AND YOU DON'T HAVE TIME FOR A TENT FOR SOMETHING OR IT'S JUST REGULATORY, IT'S BIG TICKET ITEMS. BUT WE'LL, WE'LL EITHER ASK YOU AND YOU SAY YES AND WE'LL DO IT OR YOU SAY NO AND WE'LL JUST GO AHEAD AND DO IT ANNUALLY AND NOT SEE REIMBURSEMENT.
OKAY, BUT THAT, THAT WOULD, UH, THAT WOULD COVER THE GRAPHIC NEEDS.
BUT THE SUB CONSULTS, I MEAN, Y'ALL DON'T HAVE NO, WE WE WOULDN'T BE RESPONSIBLE.
SUBCONTRACTORS, I'M CONFIDENT, UH, THAT YOU'LL NEVER SEE THAT ITEM EX UH, EXECUTED, BUT UM, I KEEP TRYING TO TAKE IT OUT.
PEOPLE KEEP TELLING TO PUT IT BACK IN BECAUSE IT DOESN'T, IT MEANS THAT IF YOU NEED TO DO SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, IN THE THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS RANGE, UH, WE'LL PROBABLY END UP JUST DOING IT AND WORKING IT OUT, BUT IT'S NOT MEANS REGULAR EXPENSES.
OKAY, THAT IS MY ONLY ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON ITEM NUMBER FOUR? WE HAVE A MOTION TO SECOND ON THE FLOOR.
OPPOSED? ITEM NUMBER FIVE IS ALSO OBJECT TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER RFP NUMBER JUDGE WOOD, SHE NEEDS HELP, SHE NEEDS TO KNOW WHO MADE THE MOTION.
SECOND, UH, COMMISSIONER CLARK MADE THE MOTION.
UH, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER FP NUMBER OH ONE 14.
I'M SORRY, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER.
ITEM NUMBER SIX IS DISCUSS AND CONSIDERING ENTERING INTO A CONTRACT WITH INNOVATIVE TRANSPORTATION SOLUTIONS INCORPORATED THE TRANSPORTATION PLANNING, FUNDING AND PROGRAM MANAGEMENT SERVICES.
THIS WOULD BE THE ACTUAL CONTRACT? YES, SIR.
AND DO YOU HAVE THAT COPY? AND YOU'RE AWARE THAT CONTRACT MAKE THAT RECOMMENDATION IN LINE WITH WHAT HAVE DONE? I'LL MAKE A PROBATION.
THIS IS THE ACTUAL CONTRACT WITH ITS DISCUSSION.
I BELIEVE THAT JOHN, THIS OVER
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WITNESS THIS OVER SENT A LIST OF QUESTIONS TO JOHN PO.I BELIEVE YOU ANSWERED TO YOUR SATISFACTION, NOT THAT'S CORRECT.
DO I HAVE A MOTION TO, UH, APPROVE AS, UH, REQUESTED? SO MAY COMMISSIONER MANNING MAKES THAT MOTION? DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND.
COMMISSIONER ROSA, SECOND MOTION.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
THOSE OPPOSED? THANK YOU, JACK.
ITEM NUMBER EIGHT IS, UH, SEVEN SEVEN, I'M SORRY, I'M MOVING AHEAD HERE.
DISCUSS AND CONSIDER AN AGREEMENT AND ALL OTHER RELATED MATTERS WITH AMERICAN TRAFFIC SOLUTIONS INCORPORATED TO PROVIDE CAMERA SYSTEMS FOR SCHOOL, BUSES AND SCHOOL ZONES FOR AN AUTOMATED
THAT OF COURSE WOULD BE WITH JOHN.
LONG REVIEWING, UH, THIS AGREEMENT, YOU HAVE A COPY OF PROPOSED AGREEMENT.
I THINK WE DISCUSSED THIS EARLIER WHERE WE HAD REPRESENTATIVES FROM THE COMPANY, WHICH ARE HERE TODAY.
UH, SO, UH, I KNOW WE HAVE AT LEAST A COUPLE OTHER, I KNOW TWO SCHOOL DISTRICTS ARE REPRESENTED HERE TODAY.
UH, DR. MARSHALL FROM MAYBANK, PATRICK FORZA FROM THE KAMAN, ISD, UH, THEY'RE HERE.
AND GENTLEMEN, IF YOU'D LIKE TO COME FORWARD AND, UH, TALK OR LET, I'LL TELL YOU WHAT, LET'S, LET'S HAVE SOMEONE FROM UH, A TS COME FORWARD AND, UH, AND PRESENT THIS INFORMATION.
THIS, UH, THERE'S TWO, TWO PROJECTS.
ONE OF THEM IS A SCHOOL BUS CAMERA THAT WOULD BE, THAT WOULD BE ON A SCHOOL BUS, UH, WHEN THE BUSES STOPPED AND WOULD RECORD, UH, A VEHICLE THAT PASSES TO GROSS ILLEGALLY.
UH, THE SECOND ONE WOULD BE PORTABLE, UH, OR THREE VEHICLES, I BELIEVE INITIALLY THAT WOULD BE MOVED AROUND THE COUNTY AND ALSO PERHAPS FIX CAMERAS ON, UH, AREAS OUTSIDE THE COUNTY.
SO GO AHEAD AND WELCOME TO THE MEETING AGAIN.
GOOD TO BE, IT'S GOOD TO BE BACK.
UH, GEORGE HITTNER WITH AMERICAN TRAFFIC SOLUTIONS.
I DISCUSSED THIS, THIS, UH, AGREEMENT, UM, BEFORE YOU IS FOR TWO, UH, SOLUTIONS AS THE JUDGE SAID.
ONE FOR, UH, SCHOOL BUSES AND THE OTHER FOR SCHOOL ZONES.
UM, THE WAY THAT THE SCHOOL BUS, UH, STOP ARM CAMERA WORKS IS WHEN THE, WHEN THE DRIVER OF THE SCHOOL BUS STOPS SIGN COMES OUT, ANYBODY WHO BLOWS PAST THE SCHOOL BUS AS CHILDREN ARE ENTERING AND EXIT THE BUS, UH, WILL RECEIVE A CIVIL CITATION, UH, VERY SIMILAR TO ONE OF THE TOLL VIOLATIONS OR A RED LIGHT CAMERA VIOLATION YOU MAY BE FAMILIAR WITH.
THE OTHER SOLUTION IS A, UH, A VAN, UH, AT LEAST INITIALLY, UM, TO BE PARKED OR PLACED IN SCHOOL ZONES, UH, TO CAPTURE FOLKS THAT GO OVER THE SPEED LIMIT SUBSTANTIALLY OVER THE SPEED LIMIT, UH, DURING, UM, LAW SCHOOL'S INCEPTION.
AND THE TICKETS WOULD BE MET THE SAME WAY YOU MIGHT TELL US ABOUT HOW THE SCHOOL BANDS, UH, OPERATE.
UH, THEY DON'T STAY AT THE SAME SCHOOL ALL THE TIME.
THEY'RE, THEY'RE MOVED AND HOW THEY ARE, HOW THEY'RE DESIGNATED AS A, AS A, UH, SCHOOL ZONE CAMERA OR WHATEVER YOU WANNA CALL IT.
SO UNLIKE, UH, YOUR TYPICAL, YOU KNOW, CAMERA AT AN INTERSECTION OR WHAT HAVE YOU, THESE ARE ACTUALLY MOBILE.
THEY'RE VANS, UH, AND THEY CAN BE WRAPPED HOWEVER, UH, THE COUNTY DESIGNATES THEY CAN BE MAKE IT LOOK LIKE A, A POLICE CAR OR THEY CAN BE WRAPPED WITH A SMILING CHILD SAYING, WE PLAY HERE AND SLOW DOWN TYPE OF THING.
UH, BUT BECAUSE THEY ARE MOBILE, THEY ARE VANS, YOU CAN ROTATE THEM FROM SCHOOL TO SCHOOL.
SO THAT'S WHY YOU'RE NOT SEEING, YOU KNOW, YOU WON'T SEE ONE AT EVERY SCHOOL.
UM, WE ALSO DO HAVE THE CAPABILITY IN THE UNINCORPORATED AREAS TO INSTALL A FIXED, PERMANENT CAMERA, UH, OUTSIDE A SCHOOL TO CATCH HABITUAL SPEEDERS OUTSIDE THAT SCHOOL.
IF YOU HAVE ONE SCHOOL OR, OR, OR WHATNOT THAT, UH, HAS A CONSTANT SPEED PROGRAM THAT MIGHT BE WORKING, INSTALLING A PERMANENT CAMERA, BUT THAT'S NOT POSSIBLE IN THE INCORPORATED AREAS OF KAMAN COUNTY.
I'M HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS.
UH, I KNOW WE'VE BEEN BEFORE AND I, I DEAL WITH SOME OF THE QUESTIONS THAT HAVE BEEN GOING THIS WAY.
THIS IDEA WAS, WAS BROUGHT TO ME INITIALLY AND I THINK THE COURT BY THE KAUFMAN INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT.
PATRICK, I KNOW YOU'RE HERE IF YOU'D LIKE TO COME UP.
AND DR. MARSHALL, IF YOU WOULD MIND, UH, YOU MAY NEED TO GET BACK TO SUPERINTENDENT SOME.
WE'D LIKE TO HEAR COMMENTS FROM YOU GUYS.
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THIS IS DR. RUSSELL MARSHALL FROM THANK YOU MAYBANK.MY QUESTION WOULD BE ON IT, UH, DO WE LOSE LOCAL CONTROL? DO WE HAVE THE OPTION OF DECLINING IT IF WE WANT TO? AND ALSO IT COMES BACK TO ME, MY QUESTION IS ON, YOU KNOW, IT'S A CIVIL CITATION AND YOU KNOW, THE RED LIGHT TICKETS ARE A REAL PROBLEM, I THINK WITH PEOPLE ACROSS THE STATE BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE THE OPTION ON THE APPEAL THAT THEY REALLY, THAT IT IS REALLY AN OPTION BECAUSE WHEN YOU, YOU TRY TO APPEAL ONE OF THOSE THINGS, IF YOU'VE EVER KNOWN ANYBODY THAT GOT ONE, IT'S A CUT AND DRY THING.
YOU REALLY DON'T HAVE YOUR SAY LIKE YOU DO.
IF, IF YOU STOP ME, IF YOU'RE THE, THE, THE HIGHWAY PATROL OR THE THE SHERIFF OR THE CONSTABLE, YOU STOP ME FOR SPEEDING.
I CAN GO IN AND, AND, UH, WE, WE JUST DON'T WANT WANT IT IMPOSED ON US LOCALLY WITHOUT THE KNOWLEDGE.
AND, UH, AND THE RED LIGHT TICKET PART, OF COURSE, YOU KNOW, SAFETY OF OUR CHILDREN IS NUMBER ONE.
DON'T, DON'T MISREPRESENT THAT IN ANY WAY.
UH, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, I, I WOULD, I WOULD HATE TO SEE SOMETHING PUT IN THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE CONTROL OVER OR THAT IT WAS GIVEN TO PEOPLE IN A CIVIL MANNER THAT YOU DIDN'T HAVE CONTROL OVER AS FAR AS THE APPEAL OF THE TICKET.
I'M ABSOLUTELY HAPPY TO RESPOND.
AND IN RESPONSE TO YOUR QUESTIONS, THE COUNTY MAINTAINS 100% CONTROL OVER THIS PROGRAM, HOW IT'S ROLLED OUT AND, AND AND SO FORTH.
IT'S IMPORTANT TO REMEMBER, UH, IN THESE PROGRAMS THAT 100% OF ANY SITE AND ALL THE CITATIONS THAT GO OUT ARE REVIEWED AND APPROVED AND ONLY AUTHORIZED TO BE SENT AFTER THE REVIEW BY A LOCAL POLICE OFFICER, UH, AN EMPLOYEE OF THE COUNTY.
SO AS FAR AS THE, AS FAR AS THE DISCRETION OF THIS IS NOT AN OUT-OF-STATE VENDOR ISSUING TICKETS TO PEOPLE IN CALIN COUNTY, THIS IS A KAUFMAN SHERIFFS OR A DEPUTY OR A CONSTABLE REVIEWING THESE VIOLATIONS SAYING, YES, ISSUE THIS ONE OR NO, DON'T ISSUE THIS ONE.
UM, SO THE, THE WAY WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, UM, I FOR NOW, I GUESS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE, UH, THE SCHOOL ZONE PROGRAM, IT WOULD BE, YOU'D HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO APPEAL IT.
YOU'D GO TO THE LOCAL JT COURT AND THEY WOULD'VE A PROCESS FOR BRINGING IT IN THERE.
HOW ABOUT THE RED LIGHT? THE STOP ARM CAMERAS THE SAME WAY? UH, THE STOP ARM CAMERAS WOULD PROBABLY GO THE SAME WAY.
A LOT OF THAT HAS TO DO WITH AN INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT THAT THE COUNTY AND, UH, SCHOOL DISTRICTS WOULD SIGN WHETHER OR NOT THEY WOULD LIKE THAT TO BE ADMINISTERED, UH, BY THE MUNICIPALITY IN WHICH IT IS RECORDED IN OR THE COUNTY.
MY ASSUMPTION IS THAT IT WOULD BE DONE THE SAME WAY AS A SPEED TICKET REVIEWED BY A COUNTY SINCE THE AGREEMENT WOULD BE WITH THE COUNTY.
BUT IF WE DID WANT IN THE CITY LIMITS, WE COULD, WE COULD HAVE OUR OWN AGREEMENT WITH THE COUNTY GIVEN THE CITY LIMITS.
WE COULD HAVE OUR CITY HANDLING.
YOU'D HAVE TO, YOU'D HAVE TO GET, UH, THE CITY TO AGREE TO DO THAT.
BUT YOU ABSOLUTELY, IT WOULD BE UP TO THE COURT TO DECIDE, UH, IF THEY WOULD, WHICH WOULD REQUIRE SOME SORT OF INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT.
ALL CAN BE, EVERYTHING CAN BE DONE VIA AN INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT.
AND THESE PROGRAMS ARE ACTIVE IN TEXAS.
UH, AND, AND SO, AND Y'ALL ARE OUT OF, UM, WE ARE HEADQUARTERED IN ARIZONA.
MY CONCERN WHEN WE TALKED EARLIER WAS, YOU KNOW, JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT, THAT LOCALLY WE HAD TO SAY AND THAT, THAT THEY DIDN'T COME IN OR THE COMPANY, BECAUSE AGAIN, WHEN THE RED LIGHT PICKET THING, I THINK MOST PEOPLE THAT, THAT HAVE HAD TO GO THROUGH IT THERE, THERE'S REALLY NOT THE APPEAL THAT YOU WANT.
AND MY APPEAL WOULD BE THAT IF, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE HAD THAT THEY GOT THEIR DAY IN COURT, YOU KNOW, IF THEY, IF THEY GOT THAT AND THAT WE HAD CONTROL OVER THAT.
IT'S PROBABLY A REALLY GOOD DEAL.
I, I TOTALLY, UM, WOULD SUPPORT YOUR JUDGMENT ON THAT.
UH, AGAIN, THAT'S MY ONLY CONCERN.
WELL, THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THEY ASSURED US.
JOHN AND I, UH, HAD CHIEF LAY FROM THE TERRA POLICE DEPARTMENT OVER AND, UH, HE, UH, HEARD THEIR PRESENTATION AND IT'S, IT'S NOT THE SAME PROGRAM AS THEY RED LIGHT, IT'S TOTALLY DIFFERENT PROGRAM, BUT THERE IS A LINE FIELD IS WHAT, UH, WHAT WE'RE HEARING.
AND THAT'S THE, UH, PART THAT I THINK WOULD MAKE IT CERTAINLY INCLUDE LOCAL, UH, THAT'S LOCAL GOVERNANCE, YOU KNOW, UH, I TAKE IT EVEN A STEP FURTHER, THE COUNTY IS, UH, FOR THE SCHOOL ZONE CAMERAS IS THE DECISION MAKERS TO WHERE THEY'RE DEPLOYED, TO WHERE WHAT TO WHERE THEY'RE DEPLOYED.
EVERY, ON A DAILY BASIS, IF WE HAVE A SCHOOL OR A COMMUNITY OR SOMETHING SAID, I DON'T WANT ANYTHING TO DO WITH IT.
I DON'T THINK WE'RE GOING TO BE PUTTING A, A UH, CAR DOWN THERE.
BUT IF WE HAD A PROBLEM, WE'D PROBABLY REQUEST IT, RIGHT? I MEAN, IF
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WE'VE GOT A, IF WE'VE GOT A HIGH TRACK AREA MAYBE COMING OVER A HILL AND, YOU KNOW, IF IT'S GONNA KEEP KIDS SAFE, OF COURSE WE WOULD REQUEST IT.THE, UH, WE'VE ALREADY GOT ONE COMMUNITY THAT HAS CONTACTED ME THAT HAS HEARD ABOUT THIS PROGRAM, AND THEY, THEY WANT US TO GET STARTED IMMEDIATELY.
UH, SO, UH, BUT WE'VE GOT WORK TO DO.
EVERYBODY'S GOTTA FEEL COMFORTABLE ABOUT IT.
UH, UH, PATRICK, YOU WERE THE ONE YOU HAD CAUGHT.
ISD UH, OF COURSE WE HAD A TRAGEDY, UH, A COUPLE YEARS AGO WHERE WE HAD A YOUNGSTER THAT WAS KILLED GETTING OFF OF BUS.
AND SO, UH, YOU MIGHT GIVE US YOUR THOUGHTS AS WELL, AND I KNOW YOU'VE LOOKED AT OTHER VENDORS, I BELIEVE.
UH, MY NAME'S PATRICK, ID, DIRECTOR OF TRANSPORTATION THERE.
AND I'VE LOOKED INTO IT PROBABLY TWO OR THREE YEARS TRYING TO, UM, AND THE WHOLE POINT BEHIND THIS IS THE SAFETY OF OUR, OUR CHILDREN.
AND, UM, WE HAD A PRETTY BAD TRAGEDY ON, ON HIGHWAY 34, THE LAST SCHOOL YEAR.
I KNOW WE DID A STUDY WITH THE COMPANY.
THEY CAME OUT AND SET UP CAMERAS ON OUR BUSES AND ON ON, UH, BUS 23.
AND JUST WITHIN 12 DAYS, WE ACTUALLY HAD 14 ACTUAL VIOLATIONS THAT'S JUST WITH ONE BUS IN 12 DAYS.
WE DID THREE OTHER BUSES AND, UH, UH, TWO OTHER ONES HAD QUAIL AND ANOTHER ONE HAD 11, AND THAT'S JUST WITHIN 10 DAYS.
SO WHAT I'M ASKING IS, IS TO PROCEED ON, I, I'VE ALREADY LOOKED AT DIFFERENT COMPANIES WITH THIS COMPANY.
UM, I LOOKED AT THE INS AND OUTS, UH, AND ALSO WE'RE BEHIND THE, UH, WITH THE, UH, MARTIN WOODS, I MEAN, IN, UH, CHRISTINE, THIS PROCESS.
WHO'S RESPONSIBLE FOR MAINTAINING THOSE CANVAS ON A DAILY BASIS? UH, SO THE COMPANY IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE OPERATION OF THE CAMERAS, UH, TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE WORKING, THEY'RE CALIBRATED ALL THOSE THINGS ON A DAILY BASIS.
THE CAMERAS ON THE BUSES, THEY SHOULDN'T BE ANY PROBLEM.
IF THERE IS, SEND US, UH, A MESSAGE AND WE WILL GO OUT AND FIX IT.
SO WE'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT.
SAME, LIKEWISE, IF ONE OF THE, UH, CAMERAS THAT ARE IN THE CARS AND ONE VEHICLES, IF ONE OF THOSE AMOUNT COSTUMES GOES WRONG, IT'S OUR RESPONSIBILITY TO COME OUT AND FIX.
IN THE CONTRACT, IT SAYS THAT THE, UH, COUNTY, I BELIEVE IS RESPONSIBLE FOR CHECKING EACH CAMERA DAILY BEFORE THIS BUS LEAVES IN THE MORNING.
SO I MEAN, THE, TO MAKE SURE IT'S STILL THERE, BASICALLY, RIGHT.
SOMEBODY HAS TO COME, IT SAYS TO CLEAN, CLEAN THE LENS AND TO CHECK OPERATION OF EACH BUS BEFORE IT LEAVES THE YARD.
Y'ALL HAVE SOME TYPE OF LOG SHEETS YOU WOULD HAVE TO LOG.
I THINK IT'S JUST AS THE, AS THE DRIVER'S DOING HIS DAILY CHECK OF THE, OF THE VAN, OF THE BUS TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S NOT DIRT ON THE WIND.
IT'S NOT A WEEK FEATURE THAT YOU WE DO.
AND WE HAVE A PRE-TRIP THAT ALL OUR BUS DRIVERS DO IN THAT.
THAT'S PART OF IT IS TO CHECK THE, UH, THE CAMERA SYSTEMS ON, ON THEIR BUS.
IT'S ALSO ON THE INSIDE THAT, BUT WE WOULD ALSO IMPLEMENT THAT FOR THEM TO CHECK THE, UH, CAMERAS FOR THAT RIGHT THERE ON THE OUTSIDE.
Y'ALL HAVE CAMERAS IN THE BUSES ALLY, YES, SIR.
I THINK THE SYSTEM IS DESIGNED BY ITS NATURE TO HAVE A MINIMAL, IF ANY, INTERACTION WITH THE ACTUAL BUS DRIVER.
WE WANT THAT BUS DRIVER CONCENTRATING ON THE KIDS, MAKING SURE THEY'RE SAFE, BEHAVING, GETTING ON AND OFF BUSES AND NOT DISTURBING, YOU KNOW, ANYTHING ELSE? THE CAMERA ON THE OUTSIDE IS TO ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO STOP WHEN THAT ARM COMES OUT AND HOW THEY HAVE, YOUR HONOR, HOW IS THAT GONNA ENCOURAGE THEM TO STOP? I MEAN, YOU GONNA HAVE SIGN SCIS, THERE'S A CAMERA ON YOU.
THERE WILL BE A, A CAMERA ON, THERE WILL BE A SIGN ON THE BACK OF EACH SCHOOL BUS.
PATRICK, YOU MIGHT, UH, AND RUSSELL, I APPRECIATE YOU CALLING ME YOUR HONORS.
WELL, YOU KNOW,
IT WAS DPS THAT CAME OUT AND, UH, FOR ABOUT A WEEK THEY FOLLOWED BUS.
THEY, THEY ACTUALLY PULLED OVER A FEW BUSES
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AND TICKETED AND TICKETS.UH, I KNOW FOR ONE THAT THEY NOT ALSO GAVE HER A TICKET FOR PASSING THE BUS, BUT SHE WAS ALSO ON, ON HER CELL PHONE.
SHE WAS PASSING BUS WITH, WITH THE LIGHTS, UH, ON.
UM, AND WE TRY TO DO THIS EVERY YEAR WITH, WITH PEOPLE.
THEY'LL COME OUT AND, UH, FOLLOW THE SCHOOL BUSES AND WE PICK THE ROUTES THAT WE'RE HAVING, UH, PROBLEMS WITH OUR, UH, WITH PEOPLE PASSING OUR BUS WITH THE LIGHTS ON.
AND IT'S HARD TO NOT TO MISS THE LIGHTS.
I MEAN, THEY'RE BRIGHT, THEY'RE FLASHY, AND YOU STILL HAVE THEM GOING AROUND.
WE'VE EVEN HAD 'EM GO AROUND THE OTHER SIDE IN THE DITCH.
YOU KNOW, I THINK WHAT'S BROUGHT THIS BOY LIGHT DOWN IS OVER THE LAST 10, 15 YEARS WITH CELL PHONES AND TEXTING AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF, UH, THAT, BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE NOT FULLY ENGAGED, YOU KNOW, UH, SAME WAY WITH SCHOOL ZONES.
THAT'S REASON MOST, NOT US, THE STATE LAW OR INDIVIDUAL LAW ABOUT SCHOOL ZONES, ABOUT NO TEXTING.
SO, OTHER, OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? YOUR HONOR, ONE MORE QUESTION.
THE REVENUE, AGAIN, I READ THAT REVENUE GOES TO THE INDIVIDUAL PLACE.
LIKE IF, IF THE CITY, IF IT WAS THEY PASSED IT WITHIN THE CITY OF KAUFMAN, THE CITY OF KAUFMAN WOULD HANDLE IT OR WOULD BE A COUNTY THING.
THE REVENUE OF WHAT, WHAT PERCENTAGE THE REVENUE COMES TO THE COUNTY.
WHAT I WOULD ENVISION WE DO, IF WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS, WE WOULD WORK OUT SOME SORT OF A MEMBER LOCAL AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY OR THE, UH, SCHOOL DISTRICT AND OR A COMBINATION THEREOF.
UH, WE'RE THE ONES THAT THE CONTRACT WOULD MEET WITH, OBVIOUSLY IF WE MOVE FORWARD WITH ATS.
BUT I'VE ALWAYS FELT THAT THERE SHOULD BE SOME SORT OF, UH, OBLIGATION TO, SINCE THE CITIES AND SCHOOLS WOULD BE WORKING WITH US TO, TO WORK WITH THAT.
AND HOW LONG IS THE AGREEMENT? THAT, UH, GOOD QUESTION.
THE AGREEMENT, UH, GEORGIE MAY WANNA STEP UP TO PLATE HERE.
THE AGREEMENT IS, UH, CAN BE TERMINATED AT ANY TIME.
THE, THE AGREEMENT, UM, CAN BE TERMINATED AT ANY TIME WITH CERTAIN THRESHOLDS.
AND I THINK THE JUDGE IS GONNA ADDRESS THAT, UH, LATER.
UM, AND THERE'S A LOT OF REASONS WE CAN GO INTO THAT, BUT WE HAVE TO, A COUPLE THINGS.
A IF YOU REMEMBER WITH RED LIGHT CAMERAS, THE CITIES AND COUNTIES THAT WERE IMPLEMENTING PROGRAMS BEFORE LEGISLATION WAS PASSED FOR GRANDFATHERED IN BECAUSE THEY HAD EXISTING CONTRACT.
THE SECOND, UH, REASON IS BECAUSE WE HAVE TO AMORTIZE THE EQUIPMENT, BUT THERE IS PROVISION IN HERE, EARLY COUNTY SHOULD THEY DECIDE TO GET OUT AGAIN.
JOHN, YOU HAVE REVIEWED THAT I BELIEVE, UH, YOU'VE HAD SEVERAL CONVERSATIONS WITH THE ATTORNEY THAT REPRESENTS SAFETY IS RIGHT, RIGHT.
UM, AND, AND ONE OF THE OPTIONS THAT WAS PRESENTED WAS THE IDEA OF WE ESCROW THE MONIES UP FRONT, BUT WE RECEIVED THE INITIAL MONTHS.
AND SO THAT BECOMES KIND OF A, SOMETHING THAT WE KEEP TO PAY BECAUSE THE COUNTY'S OUT NOTHING IN TERMS OF EQUIPMENT AND THE COMPANY IS OUT EVERYTHING.
AND SO IF WE ESCROW THE PROCEEDS WE GET FOR THREE MONTHS, FOUR MONTHS, WHATEVER PERIOD OF TIME THAT ENABLES US TO BUY OUT, IF WE DECIDE IT'S NOT, THERE IS A SCHEDULE IN THE AGREEMENT THAT DECREASES OVER TIME BASED ON HOW LONG IT TAKES US TO AMORTIZE THE EQUIPMENT.
AND THE ESCROW IS CERTAINLY UPFRONT.
ESCROW IS A WAY TO ACHIEVE THAT.
I THINK IT'S LIKE THREE YEARS AND FIVE YEARS.
AND THAT'S WHAT WE WERE AND GONNA BRING UP ACTUALLY, IS THE FACT THAT INITIALLY WHEN THE FUNDS DO, THE REVENUE DOES PLAN, IT WOULD BE MY POSITION OR MY BELIEF THAT WE SHOULD PUT THAT IN AN ESCROW ACCOUNT AND NOT UTILIZE THOSE FUNDS.
UH, IN CASE WE DO DECIDE TO GET OUTTA THE CONTRACT.
I DON'T WANNA ENTER INTO SOMETHING IN THIS TIME NEXT YEAR, SAY, WELL, THIS, THIS IS NOT WORKING THE WAY WE THOUGHT IT WOULD WORK AND HAVE TO COME UP WITH SOME MONEY TO, UH, REIMBURSE THE COMPANY.
SO I WOULD RATHER PUT THIS IN A LOCKBOX, SO TO SPEAK, AND NOT NOT TOUCH THAT UNTIL WE GET ENOUGH IN THERE TO COVER ANY EXIT COST MIGHT HAVE.
AND AT SOME POINT YOU'LL BE ABLE TO USE THAT BECAUSE THE EQUIPMENT WILL BE FULLY DEPRECIATED.
AND ON THE FLIP SIDE, IF EVERYBODY WANTS ONE, WE'LL, WILL Y'ALL BE ABLE TO PROVIDE ENOUGH TO PUT A, A LIVE CAMERA ON EVERY BUS IN THIS COUNTY? UM, HOPEFULLY THERE IS NOT THAT BIG OF A PROBLEM.
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THEY DON'T DO ALL THE BUSES.THEY DO A PERCENTAGE OF THE BUSES THAT COME THAT CURRICULUM.
SO YEAH, THERE, THERE IS A ENORMOUS UPFRONT INVESTMENT BY THE COMPANY TO FUND THESE PROGRAMS AND TO COME IN AND PUT ONE ON EVERY BUS FROM THE START, UH, WOULD NOT BE RESPONSIBLE FOR US OR FOR THE COUNTY.
BUT OVER TIME, AS WE EVALUATE THE RESULTS AND AS IF THERE'S APPROVED AND NEED FOR MORE OF 'EM, UH, THEN WE WILL, WE WILL ADD MORE.
AND THAT'S TYPICALLY THE WAY IT HAPPENS.
AT SOME POINT YOU HIT, THE COMMUNITY BECOMES AWARE, YOU GOT CAMERAS ON BUSES, YOU GOT CAMERAS ON SCHOOLS ZONE.
I'M GONNA STOP RUNNING AROUND BUSES AND SPEEDING THROUGH SCHOOLS ZONE.
SO AT SOME POINT IT BECOMES KNOWN AND YOUR PROBLEM COMES DOWN WHEN WE SEE THE, THE DECREASE IN VIOLATIONS ACROSS THE COUNTRY NO MATTER WHAT THE PROBLEM.
BECAUSE PEOPLE BECOME AWARE THAT THEY'RE GOING TO GET A TICKET IF THEY RUN AROUND SCHOOL, BUS OR SPEED THE SCHOOL, WHICH IS THE THE WHOLE POINT, THE WHOLE POINT OF THE PROGRAM, RIGHT? YES.
AND THAT'S OUR GOAL IS OKAY TO ZERO.
BUT TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, I DOUBT THERE WOULD EVER BE A DAY WHEN THERE WOULD BE A CAMERA ON EVERY BUS.
AND I DOUBT THERE WILL EVER BE A DAY WHEN THERE'S A CAMERA IN EVERY SCHOOL ZONE.
IT'S, BUT WHO DETERMINES WHICH BUSES GETS CAM GETS CAMERAS? UH, THE, THE BUSES AND THE CAMERAS.
THE VENDOR AND THE COUNTY MUTUALLY AGREE.
SO WE CAN'T SAY PUT IT THERE AND Y'ALL CAN'T SAY IT THERE, BUT YOU, IT WON'T BE ONLY LIMITED TO WHAT YOU WOULD FEEL WOULD BE A HIGH TICKETED GROUP SO THAT YOU WOULD GET MORE FERENCE.
THIS, THIS HAS TO BE A MUTUAL DIVISION.
AND THESE ARE TWO SEPARATE ISSUES, RIGHT? THE SCHOOL BUS CAMERAS ARE ONE CONTRACT.
THEY'RE BOTH IN THE SAME CONTRACT.
OKAY, WELL, I, I'VE GOT REAL PROBLEM WITH IT.
UH, FIRST OF ALL, IT'S A 10 YEAR CONTRACT.
AND UNDER THE FEES AND PAYMENT
AND THEN NUMBER FIVES MAKES NO REPRESENTATION OR WARRANTIES THAT ANY VIOLATION RATE.
AND THAT'S GOING BACK TO WHAT YOU SAID IT, THE FINES WILL EVENTUALLY DECREASE AS PEOPLE BECOME AWARE OF IT.
AND GOING BACK TO NUMBER FOUR, THE, THE FEE SCHEDULE, UM, ON PAGE 11, EXHIBIT EIGHT, THE, UH, ITEM NUMBER BEFORE THERE, THE ATS STAFF, UH, WE HAVE, IT SAYS CUSTOMER ALLEGED TO HAVE, IF WE STAFF THIS, UH, MOBILE CAMERA UNIT, WE HAVE TO DEDICATE AND PROMISE 160 HOURS PER MONTH OF A PERSON TO MOVE THE, THE DIFFERENT LOCATIONS.
AND THEN ON THE PRICE, IF WE DON'T DEDICATE SOMEBODY TO THAT, UH, VEHICLE OR TRAILER OR WHATEVER IT IS, WE ARE FINED BASICALLY $50 PER HOUR FOR ANY DEFICIT BELOW 60 PER MONTH.
AND THEN THE NEXT ITEM, UM, IS WE ARE CHARGED BASICALLY $5,800 PER CAMERA PER MONTH, UH, IF WE DO NOT STAFF THIS.
UM, SO NO, NO, THAT IS, UH, LET, LET ME, LET ME KINDA WALK YOU THROUGH THE, THE PRICING SCHEME.
SO THE CURRENT AGREEMENT CONTEMPLATES THAT THE CAMERAS WILL BE IN, UH, THE SCHOOL ZONE FROM SEVEN TO SEVEN 12 HOURS A DAY WHILE KIDS ARE AT THE SCHOOL.
THAT AMOUNTS TO 60 HOURS PER WEEK, 240 HOURS A MONTH ON AVERAGE NINE, INCLUDING SUMMERS WHEN WE'RE ON A CONSOLIDATED SCHEDULE.
SO THE 160 HOURS IS ACTUALLY A VERY LOW THRESHOLD.
UM, AND WE HAVE TO PROTECT, WE'RE, WE'RE DEPLOYING $120,000 PIECE OF EQUIPMENT, UH, TO, TO MONITOR.
SO WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT THE CAMERAS ACTUALLY DEPLOYED.
THE THING AS FAR AS AN EXPENSE OF THE COUNTY AS IT RELATES TO THE VAN, IS WE UNDER THIS CONTRACT, WE WOULD EXPECT THE COUNTY TO PUT IT AS PART OF THEIR GENERAL FLEET, MEANING CHANGE THE OIL, ROTATE THE TIRES AS PART, AS THE GENERAL FLEET OF THEIR COP CARS.
UM, THE $5,800 PER MONTH IS, IS IF YOU, THE COUNTY WANTS US TO DEPLOY THE VANS, MEANING HIRE PEOPLE LOCALLY TO MOVE AND STAY WITH THAT VAN.
ORDINARILY THE WAY THIS WORKS IS IN THE MORNING, DEPLOY THE VEHICLE AND SCHOOL ZONES.
TWO COPS GET INTO A COP CAR, ONE GOES, PICKS UP THE, THE, UM, THE VAN, THE OTHER ONE FOLLOWS 'EM, DROPS THE VAN OFF, GETS BACK IN THE COP CAR, THEY GO DO THEIR DAILY THING.
SAME THING AT THE END OF THE DAY WHEN THEY COME PICK IT UP.
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IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE A POLICE OFFICER, IT CAN BE A MEMBER OF THE CITY COUNTY STAFF OR, OR WHOMEVER.BUT ASSUMING THAT THE COUNTY TAKES ON THAT RESPONSIBILITY, THE $5,800 DOES NOT APPLY.
TO THIS CONTRACT AND THAT YOU, YOU, IT'S SO HIGH THAT IT'S TO, FOR US TO PAY THEM TO DO THAT.
MOST OF WE, WE DON'T WANT DO THAT.
THEY, THEY REALLY DON'T WANT, DO, MOST OF THE DISTRICTS THAT I'VE TALKED TO HAVE, UH, THEIR OWN POLICE DEPARTMENT ARE, THEY HAVE, UH, ONE OF THE CONSTABLES TOLD ME THAT HE, HE WOULD TAKE CARE OF TAKING THE VEHICLE WHERE IT NEEDS TO GO AND THEN PICKING IT UP AND BEING, AND SO, UH, THAT'S THE REASON I GONNA GO WITH THAT A MONTH.
I MEAN, THAT WOULD BE, UH, VERY EXPENSIVE.
SO, AND THEN YOUR COMPANY RECEIVES $50 PER PAID CITATION, OVER 40% OF COLLECTIVE REVENUE, WHICHEVER IS GREATER, WHICHEVER IS GREATER.
SO AS I, AS I LIKE TO SAY, WE DO 90% OF THE WORK OR 40% OF WORK, WE TAKE ALL THE RATES.
SO, BUT THAT, THAT'S BASICALLY THE ANSWER WOULD BE QUESTION IS YES, WE 40% AND THERE IS NO THRESHOLD FOR TAKING
WE, WE FULLY EXPECT FOR, UH, VIOLATIONS TO COME DOWN BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE COMPLIANT WITH FEEDING THE SCHOOLS.
GEORGE, WHAT DOES THE POLLING SHOW ON THIS? I THINK YOU MENTIONED THE ME THAT, UH, SURE.
WELL, ACTUALLY WE, WE'VE DONE A LOT OF NATIONAL POLLS.
WE'VE DONE A LOT OF STATE SPECIFIC POLLS, BUT WE ALSO HAD A POLL COMMISSION SPECIFICALLY FOR TEXAS, HAD 1500 PERSON SAMPLE AND OVER SAMPLED IN THE, THE COUNTIES IN DALLAS AND HOUSTON, THE SUBURBS OF THOSE COUNTIES AS WELL, WHERE THE CONCENTRATION OF THE POPULATION IS.
AND OVERALL ACROSS THE STATE, THIS HAD OVER AN 80% SCHOOL.
BUSES HAS OVER 90%, OVER 80% OF TEXAS BELIEVE IN CONTROLLING SPEED IN SCHOOL ZONES WITH THE USE OF OF CAMERAS.
AND INTERESTINGLY ENOUGH, SINCE I KNOW, UH, IT'S ON EVERYBODY'S MIND, EVEN THE TEA PARTY SUPPORTED THIS IN THE HIGH SUB FOLKS WHO SELF-IDENTIFIED AS TEA PARTY.
SO I MEAN, THE POLLING NUMBERS ON A TWO ROOF, NO MATTER WHAT YOUR DEMOGRAPHIC, HOW WILL THE, YOU MENTIONED ON THE SCHOOL BUSES THAT THERE WILL BE A SIGN ON THE BUSES SAYING THE CAMERA LEADING OPERATION.
WHAT ABOUT THE SCHOOL ZONES IN, IN COMMUNITIES LIKE IN MAY? SURE.
SO THE VEHICLE ITSELF IS USUALLY MARKED IN SOME WAY.
ALSO, THE COUNTY HAS THE OPTION OF PUTTING OUT A SANDWICH FOR, UH, IN ADVANCE OF THE SCHOOL ZONE SAYING, YOU KNOW, VOTE ENFORCE.
UM, OUR, WHAT WE GENERALLY ENCOURAGE IS ON, UM, THE SPEED LIMITS HEADING INTO A SCHOOL ZONE.
WE JUST SIMPLY ADD ANOTHER, AND OUR COMPANY'S HAVING TO PROVIDE THESE ANOTHER PLA THAT JUST GETS SCREWED INTO THE SAME, UH, POLE THAT SAYS PHOTO ENFORCE.
RIGHT NOW MOST OF 'EM SAY CELL PHONES.
WHAT ABOUT THE, UH, AND YOU COULD PUT HOURS ON PHOTO 4, 7 7 OR WHATEVER, RIGHT.
WHAT ABOUT THE, UH, MR. SLIP ON THAT? I'M KIND OF EMBARRASSING.
WHAT ABOUT, UH, THE, UH, COMPLIANCE PART? YOU MENTIONED THAT IT'S IN THE, UH, ULTIMATELY GETS UP TO THE, UH, CHANGES.
YOU, YOU WILL SEE A DRASTIC REDUCTION FROM TO ABOUT OVER THE COURSE OF 18 MONTHS.
YOU'LL SEE A, AND THIS IS MORE THE CASE FOR SPEEDING IN SCHOOL ZONES.
YOU'LL SEE ABOUT A 50% REDUCTION OVER THE FIRST 18 MONTHS.
UM, GIVE OR TAKE, EVERY COMMUNITY IS DIFFERENT, BUT YOU DO SEE A DRAMATIC DROP OFF THAT SOMETIMES VARIES DEPENDING ON HOW MUCH AND HOW OFTEN YOU MOVE THE CAMERAS AROUND.
SO IF YOU HAVE THE SAME CAMERA, EVEN THOUGH IT'S MOBILE PARKED IN THE SAME, UM, SCHOOL ZONE EVERY DAY, YOU'RE GONNA SEE A MUCH HIGHER COMPLIANCE RATE IN THAT SCHOOL ZONE THAN YOU WOULD IF YOU MOVED FROM A CAMERA AROUND EVERY DAY.
BUT YOU WILL SEE A REDUCTION OR STATISTICS FROM ACROSS THE COUNTRY ARE ANYWHERE FROM 15 TO 80% REDUCTION, AND YOU'LL SEE A REDUCTION RAISE.
IS THERE LEVEL OF AWARENESS? ABSOLUTELY.
AND YOU KNOW, IT'S THE SAME REASON WHY, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, TEXTING, STAYING ON YOUR PHONE IN SCHOOL ZONE IS, SO IF I GO THROUGH A SCHOOL ZONE THAT 21 MILES PER HOUR AND THE SCHOOL ZONE IS 20, NO SIR.
WHAT, WHAT THE, OUR GENERAL BEST, BEST PRACTICES ARE A 25%
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THRESHOLD OVER THE SCHOOL OVER THE SPEED LIMIT.SO IF YOU'RE GOING THROUGH A, A SCHOOL ZONE AT 20 MILES AN HOUR THAT HAS SPEED LIMIT AT 20 MILES AN HOUR, YOU'RE GOING 25, YOU WON'T GET A TICKET.
BUT IF YOU'RE GOING 26, YOU WILL 25% PLUS ONE IS WHERE YOU TRIGGER.
UH, SIMILARLY, IF IT'S A 35 MILE AN HOUR ZONE, THEN IT'S, YOU KNOW, EIGHT OVER NINE OVER SOMETHING THAT WHAT ABOUT A BREAK IN PERIOD? IF, UH, IF WE APPROVE THIS AND MOVE FORWARD, IS THERE A BREAK IN PERIOD? MEANING IS THERE A, UH, A WAIVER THAT'S WHERE THEY MIGHT GET A, UH, CITATION, BUT IT'S A WARNING TICKET OR WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL? SO, SO TWO THINGS TO ADDRESS THERE, UH, A TS ON OUR OWN, IN, IN COORDINATION WITH THE COUNTY, WE'LL PROVIDE A MASSIVE, TO THE EXTENT WE WILL ALLOW US, UH, PUBLIC EDUCATION PROGRAM, OUR GOAL WAS TO SEND, UH, THINGS IN ELECTRICITY, BILLS HOME WITH STUDENTS, PTAS, UH, PUT IT IN THE NEWSPAPER THAT BOTH SCHOOLS, BUSES, AND SCHOOL ZONES ARE GOING TO BE STARTED TO BE, UH,
SO EVERYBODY BE AWARE, UH, WE WILL HELP, UH, WITH THE COUNTY DO PSAS AND SO FORTH.
THIS IS NOT, AS I SAY, A GOTCHA PROGRAM.
WE WANT PEOPLE TO KNOW IT'S COMING.
UM, SO THAT, THAT'S THE, UM, THE FIRST ISSUE.
THE SECOND ISSUE IS IF THE COUNTY WANTS, THERE IS AN OPTION IN THE, IN THE CONTRACT, UH, FOR A WARNING PERIOD, UH, OF 30 DAYS.
UH, AND, AND THERE'S A PRICE ASSOCIATED WITH THAT, BUT IT'S, IT'S ON, IN THE GRAND SCHEME OF THINGS, IT'S NOT VERY MUCH.
BUT AGAIN, IF YOU'RE GONNA BE ROTATE VEHICLES FIRST 30 DAYS IS, IS THE WARNING PERIOD.
YOU'D WANT TO ROTATE THOSE PRETTY AGGRESSIVELY IN THE FIRST 30 DAYS SO THAT PEOPLE WHO REGULARLY DRIVE TO WORK AND REGULARLY DRIVE, UH, OVER THE SPEED LIMIT OF SCHOOL ZONE WOULD KNOW THAT IT'S COMING.
WE'RE NOT IN THE, UH, INCOME PRODUCING BUSINESS, BUT THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY HERE FOR A LARGE AMOUNT OF INCOME TO COME BACK TO THE COUNTY AND THE SCHOOLS UNFORTUNATELY, HOWEVER, BUT I WOULD LIKE SAY THAT I THINK THE BIGGEST PLUS OF THIS IS GOING TO BE A CALMING DEVICE THAT PEOPLE, ONCE THEY KNOW ABOUT IT, THEY'LL GET EDUCATED.
WE'RE GONNA SLOW DOWN BECAUSE IF WE DON'T SLOW DOWN, WE'RE GONNA GET A TICKET.
AND WHEN THEY SEE THIS QUARTERBACK VAN, AFTER WE PLACE ANOTHER THOUGHTS ABOUT AND SO MUCH ABOUT GIVING TICKETS TO PRIVATE INCOME IN THE QUARTERBACK, THIS VAN SPONSORED BY SO AND SO AND COLLECT MONEY FOR ADVERTISEMENT GUY, YOU MUST BEEN WATCHING THAT.
AYE, I HAD NOT THOUGHT THAT I LOOK INTO THAT ALL, THAT'S ALL I GOT.
I'M IN FAVOR UNDER TERMINATION, UH, CLAUSE, UH, ITEM THREE IN THEEND TERMINATION BY AT S THIS SUBSECTION INCREASE BY CUSTOMER, WE WILL OWE Y'ALL $120,000 PER EACH FIXED SPEED SAFETY COUNTY SYSTEM.
AND THE NEXT ITEM FOUR, UH, IT'S 95,000 FOR EACH MOBILE SPEED SAFETY, WHICH I GUESS WHAT IS THE RATIO OF SCHOOL SYSTEMS IN THE CITY LIMITS VERSUS OUT OF THE CITY LIMITS IN OUR COUNTY? IF YOU EXAMINE THIS, WE LOOKED AT IT AT ONE POINT, BUT I CAN'T REMEMBER WHAT THE NUMBER WAS.
THE MAJORITY OF 'EM, I GUESS WOULD BE PROBABLY, BECAUSE I'M THINKING MOST OF OUR SCHOOL DISTRICTS ARE
I DUNNO ABOUT OTHER THAN THAT, PROBABLY, IF I MAY, UH, ALL OF OURS WERE OUT OF THE CITY SCHOOL BUSES.
NO, I'M TALKING ABOUT THESE ARE FOR THE, THE CAMERAS IN THE, UH, MOBILE SPEED.
I DON'T BELIEVE THIS IS FOR THE MOBILE UNIT.
BUT WHAT YOU WERE SAYING, THE VIOLATIONS WERE ALL OUTSIDE THIS WELL, YEAH, THE SCHOOL BUSES.
I SAID THIS, I I I THINK THE BUS CAMERA SYSTEM IS A GREAT IDEA, BUT IF WE CAN'T GET IT WITHOUT THE, THE CAMERA SYSTEM, IF IT'S NOT TWO CONTRACTS BECAUSE ONE, ONE CONTRACT, UH, I THINK WE'RE JUST GONNA GET FOR WAY TOO MUCH LIABILITY FOR THE MOBILE, THE CAMERAS IN THE VEHICLES.
AND UH, I DUNNO IF Y'ALL WERE EVEN LOOKING AT THE STATIONARY CAMERAS, UH, FOR THE ZONES THAT ARE OUTSIDE OF THE CITY.
WELL, AND THAT WAS REASON THAT I SUGGESTED EARLIER THAT WE WOULD PUT IT IN A REVENUE THAT COMES IN, YOU WOULD PUT IN A, UH, ACCOUNT THAT WOULD NOT BE TOUCHED.
IT WOULD BE A LOCKBOX ACCOUNT.
BUT WOULD THAT BE ENOUGH? LIKE WE'VE ALREADY DISCUSSED THE THE TICKETS ARE GONNA
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GO WAY DOWN BASED ON THE CONVERSATIONS I'VE HAD WITH GEORGIA.SO WITHIN THE FIRST SEVERAL MONTHS, HOWEVER LONG THAT, WHETHER THAT'S TWO MONTHS OR SIX MONTHS, I MEAN, IT'S GONNA BE IN THERE SOMEWHERE.
UH, IF THE COUNTY ESTABLISHES A LOCK BOX, YOU WILL BE ABLE TO, AT THAT POINT PAY FOR THE, THAT BE ENOUGH.
BUT I THINK HE SAYING THAT POSSIBLY AFTER SIX MONTHS YOU'D HAVE ENOUGH MONEY TO PAY YOURSELF OUTTA THE POSSIBLY.
I, I MEAN THE HEDGES THAT WE'RE PAYING FOR THEIR DEPRECIATION OF THE EQUIPMENT, AND SO FOR A PERIOD OF TIME, IF WE DIDN'T RESERVE IT FOR A PERIOD OF TIME, PRESUMABLY, YOU KNOW, WOULD WORK ITSELF DOWN.
BUT THIS IS, THIS IS A, AN AMOUNT THAT GOES DOWN EVERY MONTH.
SO, SO, SO A YEAR INTO IT, IT'S NOT UNDER 20,002 YEARS INTO IT, IT'S NOT THAT AMOUNT.
SO IT'S DECLINING EVERY MONTH.
THEN THE IDEA OF RESERVING THE MONEY IS JUST SO THAT WE WOULD'VE EFFECTIVELY A 30 DAY OUT TO THE SEAL IF WE WANTED IT AT SOME POINT BASED UPON THE PILOTS THAT WE'VE SEEN THROUGHOUT.
AND, AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT TIME WOULD BE.
I MEAN, I'M NOT AN EXPERT, THIS KIND OF
I THINK DALLAS AND A COUPLE OF GEORGETOWN COUPLES SURROUNDING, THERE'S, THERE'S, ON THE SCHOOL BUSES, THOSE HAVE BEEN BEING DEPLOYED FOR THE LAST, I DON'T KNOW, YEAR IN TEXAS AS FAR AS THE SCHOOL ZONE SPEED CAMERAS.
WE ARE CURRENTLY TALKING AND THEN HAVING COMMISSIONERS HEARING, UH, AND UPON FINAL APPROVAL IN THREE COUNTIES IN TEXAS, WE'RE HAVING CONVERSATIONS WITH MANY MORE THAN THAT.
SO THIS HAS BEEN INTRODUCED TO TEXAS BASED ON A LEGAL OPINION THAT WAS RELEASED IN OCTOBER.
SO, SO YOU'RE SAYING THAT WE COULDN'T SEPARATE OUT THE TWO, THAT WE COULDN'T JUST DO BUS BUSES AND NOT DO THE OTHER CAMERAS? UH, THERE, THERE'S, IT IS CERTAINLY POSSIBLE.
COULD YOU JUST SAID THE, SOME COUNTIES HAVE THE SCHOOL BUSES? YES, SIR.
SO THE, THE WAY WE KIND OF GOT HERE WAS WE HAD ORIGINALLY COME, UH, TO GIVE A PRESENTATION ON THE SCHOOL ZONE SPEED.
UH, AND THE SAME DAY, I THINK, UH, Y'ALL WERE HAVING A PRESENTATION ON THE SCHOOL BUSES.
AND AT SOME POINT IN THE DISCUSSION ON SCHOOL ZONE SPEED, WE WERE ASKED, CAN YOU DO BOTH? WE SAID YES.
UH, TO THE TRANSPORTATION GUY HERE TALKING, I THINK IT WAS FRIDAY NIGHT THEY WAS SHOWING UP, UH, ON, I DON'T REMEMBER WHICH CHANNEL IT WAS, WHETHER IT WAS CHANNEL EIGHT OR I TURNED WHAT CHANNEL EIGHT OR CHANNEL FOUR, ALL THESE.
AND THEY WAS SHOWING ALL THE NEW BUSES THAT WERE COMING OUT WITH ALL THESE NEW CAMERA SYSTEMS AND ALL OF THAT ON THE 90.
SO THE WHOLE BUS SYSTEMS NOW ARE GONNA BE TOTALLY DIFFERENT THAN WHAT IT WAS WHEN USED DRIVING BACK A LONG TIME AGO.
WHEN BUSES, WE, WE GO AHEAD AND ORDER 'EM EQUIPPED WITH THE, WITH CAMERAS AND SEE THIS OUTSIDE CAMERAS.
NO, BECAUSE EVEN IF WE EQUIP THE CAMERA WILL BE OUTSIDE WITHOUT THIS AGREEMENT, WE, WE WON'T BE ABLE TO, TO PICK ANYBODY EVEN, UM, OUR OWN POLICE OFFICERS THAT WE HAVE AT THE SCHOOL.
AND THIS IS, THIS IS A VERY STANDARD AGREEMENT ACROSS THE INDUSTRY.
UH, BASICALLY
OR THE AMOUNT OF FINES THAT THEY DECREASE THROUGH TIME.
SOMETHING THAT WE CAN LOOK AT AND SAY, HEY, THIS HAS BEEN WORKING IN OTHER, WHAT I'D LIKE TO LOOK AT IS COUNTIES SIMILAR SIZE TO US AND HAVE, UH, SIMILAR AMOUNT OF SCHOOL DISTRICTS, EVEN IF IT'S IN OTHER STATES, I DON'T THINK IT'D BE A GOOD REPRESENTATION OF WHAT RECORD OF WHAT IT MIGHT PRODUCE HERE OR MIGHT NOT PRODUCE HERE.
THAT INFORMATION WAS PREVIOUSLY PROVIDED.
UH, IT WAS A POWERPOINT PRESENTATION THAT WAS DISTRIBUTED, I THINK, UM, TO EVERY MEMBER OF THE BOARD AND TO JOHN, MR. LONG, THE LAST TIME WE PRESENTED IT SHOWED ACROSS THE COUNTRY VIOLATION, STATISTICS, VIOLATION, REDUCTIONS, NUMBER OF DIFFERENT COUNTIES AND SO FORTH.
UM, WE DIDN'T HAVE A PROJECTOR, SO WE HANDED THEM OUT AND PAPER AND I THINK Y'ALL PROVIDED THEM BEFORE.
SO IT, IT, IT SHOWED, IT IS CONSTANT.
IF OUR PRODUCTS DIDN'T WORK, WE WOULDN'T BE IN BUSINESS.
IF OUR S DIDN'T REDUCE VIOLATIONS, WE'D HAVE NOTHING TO SELL.
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WE CAN'T JUST GO AND SAY WE HAD NOTHING, NO PROVEN SAFETY RESULTS.SO I MEAN, IT IS, IT IS OVERWHELMING THAT WHEREVER THESE ARE INSTALLED VIOLATIONS COME DOWN.
WE JUST ROLLED DOWN THE, THE BIGGEST SPEED PROGRAM IN THE COUNTRY IN, IN CHICAGO.
I KNOW THAT'S NOT HERE, BUT VIOLATIONS HAVE DROPPED MORE THAN 50% IN THE FIRST THREE MONTHS.
SO, BECAUSE I BELIEVE YOU, WHEN YOU GAVE THIS PRESENTATION BEFORE, YOU GAVE US EVEN ESTIMATES WHAT KA THE COUNTY REVENUE COULD BE, WHICH WAS EXTRAORDINARILY HIGH.
THAT'S WHAT I, BUT YOU KNOW, JUST PART OF THAT CAME THROUGH, IT'S GONNA BE MORE THAN ENOUGH TO PAY THE COST DOWN IN THE FIRST, YOU KNOW, IN THE VERY FIRST PART OF THIS PROGRAM, WE WANT BE AT RISK.
THAT'S WHAT I HAD THE SAME CONCERN YOU HAD, BUT THE NUMBERS THEY GIVE US, IF THEY CUT THAT, YOU CUT THAT HALF IN TOO, WE'RE STILL GONNA BE AHEAD.
WOULD YOU BE WILLING TO BASICALLY THIS ON TWO DIFFERENT CONTRACTS.
SCHOOL BUS CAMERA IS ONE CONTRACT.
AND THEN THE, THE IN THE WAY THAT AS I UNDERSTAND THE RESOLUTION IS, UH, FOR TODAY'S ITEM IS WRITTEN, WE WE'RE HAPPY TO, TO BREAK THEM OUT.
IF THE TRUCTURE, WE CAN CERTAINLY HAVE TWO DIFFERENT AGREEMENTS TO STILL GIVE YOU THE AUTHORITY TO FINALIZE THE AGREEMENT.
YEAH, I THINK THAT GOES BACK TO THE, THE LOCAL PATROL ISSUE THAT RUSSELL WAS TALKING ABOUT EARLIER.
I DON'T THINK WE WOULD WANNA GO INTO DISTRICT WITH EITHER OF THESE PROGRAMS IF THEY WERE JUST OPPOSED TO THAT, THAT WOULD COME FROM THIS.
BUT MY WHOLE DEAL ON THIS ENTIRE SCENARIO IS IF WE SAVE ONE KID'S LIFE, ONE PERSON'S LIFE, IT'S WORTH, IT'S WORTH THE PROGRAM.
UH, AND I CANNOT, YOU KNOW, THAT'S JUST BOTTOM LINE.
AND I HAVE TO, UH, BE THAT WAY.
I, I DROVE A SCHOOL BUS FOR 10 YEARS.
COURSE I NEVER HAD A CHILD THAT GOT, UH, KILLED GETTING OFF MY BUS.
BUT WHAT BROUGHT THIS ON TO ME WAS WHAT HAPPENED HERE IN 34 COUPLE YEARS AGO.
AND I THINK IF WE HAD TESTIMONIALS IN HERE FROM TEACHERS AND AIDES AND SCHOOL ZONES, THEY COULD PROBABLY TELL YOU SOME HORROR STORIES.
FORTUNATELY TO MY KNOWLEDGE, WE'VE NOT HAD ANYBODY KILLED RECENTLY IN A SCHOOL ZONE.
BUT IF WE SAVE ONE CHILD'S LIFE, I'M CONVINCED THIS PROGRAM WOULD BE WORTH IT.
IS IT GOING TO BE, UH, ARE THERE GOING TO BE PROBLEMS? THERE MAY BE, BUT I'M, I'LL DO EVERYTHING I CAN TO HELP RESOLVE THOSE PROBLEMS. I HAVE THE ASSURANCE OF THE VENDOR THAT THEY WILL WORK WITH US AS WELL.
AND WHAT I WOULD SUGGEST IF WE DO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS IS THAT RUSSELL, MAYBE WE CAN GET A MEETING SET UP WITH THE, UH, SCHOOLS AND UH, AND THE CITIES AS WELL AND THE TRANSPORTATION PEOPLE AND TALK ABOUT THIS VERY ISSUE.
UH, YOU KNOW, IF, IF, UH, IF WE DO MOVE FORWARD WITH IT, YOU, AND, AND I CAN ASSURE YOU 100% OF EVERYBODY AGREES WITH WHAT YOUR STATEMENT YOU DID SAVE ONE OR, YOU KNOW, WHETHER IT'S A LIFE OR JUST WE, WE DID HAVE A KID HIT ON THE ARM IN SCHOOLS ON A COUPLE YEARS AGO AND BROKE HIS ARM.
YOU KNOW, THIS MUCH FARTHER WOULD'VE, I WASN'T AWARE OF THAT.
AND SO WE, UH, WE, WE WE'RE NOT, I'M NOT AT ALL ANTI TO THIS.
I JUST THINK THAT WE WALK THROUGH IT.
I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS IS A TEAM THING THAT WE, AND THAT'S EXACTLY HOW I WOULD AS WELL.
I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE, UH, APPROVE THE AGREEMENT WITH ATS, AUTHORIZE THE JUDGE TO REVIEW Y'ALL.
WE HAVE A MOTION, UH, FROM COMMISSIONER CLARK.
DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND? WE HAVE A SECOND.
DO WE HAVE FURTHER DISCUSSION THIS, UH, UH, CONTRACT AND WORKSHOP THAT WE ATTENDED, UH, BEFORE, UM, I WAS A LITTLE CONCERNED ABOUT THE LOCATION OF WHERE THESE VANS WOULD BE PARKED.
WOULD YOU REFRESH MY MEMORY AS TO WHAT YOU, UH, WHAT YOU TOLD ME? NO, I MENTIONED TO YOU, UH, THAT, THAT, UH, THERE'S A FOUR LANE ROAD DOWN THERE IN MAYBANK WHERE THE UH, WHERE THE MIDDLE SCHOOL DOWN THERE OR THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL? ONE OF THEM.
ONE INTERMEDIATE BEHIND THE SHELL.
THERE, THERE'S A SIDEWALK ON EITHER SIDE OF THE ROAD.
AND I, I WAS AWARE OF THE OPINION THAT POSSIBLY A STATIONARY CAMERA WAS NEEDED THERE.
'CAUSE I DON'T BELIEVE THERE'S ROOM TO PARK A MOBILE VAN UP IN THERE.
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MEMORY OF WHAT YOUR SOLUTION TO THAT WAS? SURE.AND I DON'T KNOW, ARE WE TALKING ABOUT A SCHOOL IN THE INCORPORATED OR UNINCORPORATED? IT'S IN THE CITY.
IT'S IN, IT'S IN THE CITY LIMITS.
SO IN THAT SCENARIO, IF THERE IS NO PLACE TO PARK A VAN 90% OF THE TIME THERE IS SOMETIMES YOU HAVE TO GET CREATIVE.
BUT 90% OF THE TIME THERE IS IN THAT 10% SCENARIO WHERE THERE'S NOT, IF THAT IS A SCHOOL ZONE THAT THE COUNTY WANTS TO ENFORCE, WE WILL DEPLOY WHAT WE HAVE AS A TRAILER SOLUTION.
BASICALLY, IT'S, IT LOOKS LIKE A MAILBOX, A BIG COLLEGE.
AND, AND YOU CAN, I REMEMBER YOU TELLING ME YOU CAN DROP THAT OFF IN THE MORNING AND COME BACK AND PICK IT UP ON A TRAILER AT NIGHT, JUST HOOKS ONTO TO A HITCH.
AND I HAD MENTIONED TO YOU, WHAT ABOUT PUTTING A, MAKING IT STATIONARY, IN OTHER WORDS, WHERE IT'S THERE ALL THE TIME, THE STATIONARY, UH, CAMERAS ARE POSSIBLE IN THE UNINCORPORATED AREAS OF THE COUNTY, BUT NOT IN, IN THE OKAY.
THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT I, AND ALSO THE, THE STAFFING, UM, UH, THAT THE COUNTY IS GOING TO HAVE TO DO.
AND, UH, THE COLLECTIONS, I BELIEVE THAT WAS A, A LITTLE BUR UNDER MY BLANKET BEFORE.
UH, YOU WANT US TO DO THE COLLECTIONS? I KNOW YOU'VE GIVEN, YOU'VE GIVEN AN OPTION THAT Y'ALL WILL DO IT, BUT, UH, I BELIEVE, LIKE, LIKE I SAID BEFORE, I THINK YOUR, YOUR COLLECTION FEES ARE A LITTLE YEAH, SO I'M, I'M HAPPY, I'M HAPPY TO ADDRESS IT.
FIRST IS, UM, WITH A SCOFF LAW, YOU SEE ABOUT 85% PAID.
UH, AND THAT'S WHAT OUR DATA IN TEXAS ON THAT RELIES ON RED LIGHT
UM, SO 85% PAY, CALL IT LESS THAN 1% WILL GO TO COURT AND CHALLENGE.
IF THEY DO, THOSE ARE EITHER BEING ACCEPTED OR DISMISSED.
SO YOU'RE, AND THEN FOR THE QUESTION THEN BECOMES, WHAT DO YOU DO WITH THE REMAINING, UH, CALL IT 15, 14, 15% THAT ARE TRADITIONALLY PEOPLE THAT DON'T LIVE IN THE COUNTY WHO ARE GOING THROUGH BUT LIVE IN OTHER PARTS OF, OF THE STATE.
UM, IF YOU HAVE SC LAW, THEY GOTTA COME AND GET THE REGISTRATION RENEWED HERE.
BUT IF THEY'RE NOT RESIDENTS OF CLAND, PROBABLY 15% AND LIVE SOMEWHERE ELSE IN THE STATE OF TEXAS, THEN HOW DO YOU GO AFTER TRADITIONAL WAY IS, IS COLLECTIONS.
NOW WE DON'T MIND DOING THE COLLECTIONS.
Y'ALL CERTAINLY PROBABLY HAVE AGREEMENTS WITH LINEBARGER AND PURDUE BRAND, UH, AND, AND THOSE KINDS OF COLLECTION FIRMS LIKE, BUT SHOULD THE COUNTY DECIDE THEY WANT TO GO AFTER THAT EXTRA 15% AND WE ENCOURAGE 'EM TO DO THAT.
OTHERWISE YOU CREATE A RIGHT KNOWN THAT YOU DON'T HAVE TO.
UM, THEN WE HAVE EXISTING RELATIONSHIPS WITH THOSE CONTRACTORS.
BUT BASICALLY OUR, OUR FEES TO HAVE TO PAY THOSE CONTRACTORS NEED TO BE PROVIDED FOR.
AND THAT'S WHAT'S PROVIDED FOR.
IT'S NO DIFFERENT THAN IF SHE WAS ON THE OTHER FOOT.
AND Y'ALL WANT DO IT, IS JUST WHO WANTS TO HAVE THE HASSLE INTERACTING WITH THE COLLECTIONS AGENCY.
WELL I WANT BE ON RECORD TO SAY I'M A HUNDRED PERCENT FOR SAFETY AND CHILD SAFETY IN PARTICULAR, UH, THE SCHOOL BUS CAMERA.
I, I AGREE WITH, I THINK THAT IS A GREAT DEAL.
THE OTHER SPEEDS ON CAMERAS, I THINK IT JUST LEAVES US HANGING OUT FOR WAY TOO MUCH LIABILITY.
UH, IN CASE, YOU KNOW, IT DOESN'T WORK.
FINANCIAL, FINANCIAL LIABILITY.
UM, I THINK WE HAVE, UH, SCHOOL POLICE THAT EVERY CAMPUS OR EVERY CITY HAS.
DO Y'ALL HAVE THEY AS WELL? YOU KNOW, IT'S, I DON'T KNOW WHY THEY CAN'T RUN RADAR.
IF YOU HAVE A PROBLEM IN THE SCHOOL ZONE, IN ADDITION TO THE CITY POLICE IN ADDITION TO THE COUNTY, IN ADDITION, WHY WE SHOULD, UH, BE LIABLE FOR ALL THIS FOR SOME CAMERAS.
BUT THE SCHOOL BUS, I AGREE HUNDRED PERCENT.
UM, AND IF THIS CONTRACT CAN'T BE SEPARATED, UH, I'M NOT IN FAVOR OF THIS CONTRACT.
IF WE CAN, I'M HUNDRED PERCENT SCHOOL BUS, THAT'D BE A GREAT DEAL BECAUSE THE POLICE CAN'T BE BEHIND THEIR SCHOOL BUS.
RIGHT? UH, THE POLICE ARE ALREADY IN EVERY SCHOOL ZONE, WHETHER IT BE CAMPUS POLICE OR THE CITY.
SO, UM, A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND ABOUT A TS.
WE ARE THE NATION'S LARGEST PROVIDER FOR THESE SERVICES BY FAR.
UH, OVER 300 STATE MUNICIPAL, LOCAL COUNTY GOVERNMENTS, UH, HIRE US TO DO THEIR THING.
AND ALL OF OUR CONTRACTS FOR SCHOOL KNOWN FEE, FIRST OF ALL, I'M NOT SURE WE'VE EVER HAD ONE THAT ISN'T STILL
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CONTINUING.SECOND, THERE IS NOT A PROGRAM THAT HAS EVER PAID US TO GO AWAY.
MEANING THAT HAS THE EQUIPMENT HAS ALREADY BEEN AMORTIZED.
SO IF HISTORY IS ANY PREDICTOR, I I JUST, IF THAT'S AT ALL COMFORTING, ANYBODY IN THE COURT, BUT WE HAVE NEVER BEEN HAD TO, HAD TO GO DOWN THAT ROUTE.
HOW MANY SYSTEMS DO YOU HAVE NOW THAT YOU, HOW MANY SCHOOLS OR COUNTIES? WELL, WE HAVE OVER 300 LOCAL GOVERNMENTS.
YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT CITIES? CITIES AND CAMERAS.
I, IN FAVOR OF SCHOOL SAFETY AND ESPECIALLY FOR THE KIDS, UH, I SURE WOULD LIKE TO SEE US GOT ALL THE SCHOOL SUPERINTENDENT TOGETHER, THE SCHOOL BOARDS AND DISCUSS THIS BEFORE WE, UM, TRY TO IMPLEMENT SOMETHING THAT'S GONNA, UH, BASICALLY AFFECT THEM HOW I'M SAYING IT.
BUT THAT'S A, TO ME, UH, THE, THE KEY TO TODAY IS THAT YOU'RE GIVING IT TO HIM AND THEN HE'LL IMPLEMENT IT.
SO I'M COMFORTABLE PERSONALLY WITH THAT.
AND SAME, I'VE TALKED TO, I THINK JUST ABOUT ALL THE SCHOOL SUPERINTENDENTS AND EVERYONE OF 'EM HAVE THE SAME COMMENT BACK IS IF IT'LL SAVE KID'S LIFE, IT'S WORTH DOING WELL IF IT WILL, BUT THERE'S NO WAY TO PROVE THAT IT'LL, OR IT WON'T, BUT IT'LL DEFINITELY MAKE PEOPLE AWARE OF THE SCHOOL ZONE.
I GUESS IT'S BETTER THAN NOT HAVING ANYTHING, BUT I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
I MEAN, I DON'T, I DON'T MEAN TO DISREGARD THAT.
UH, I DO BELIEVE THAT THIS COMPANY WILL WORK WITH US AND WHEN I PUT ON HERE APPROVAL, UH, WITH THE COUNTY JUDGE TO APPROVE THE FINAL AGREEMENT, THAT MEANT JOHN LONG AS WELL, OBVIOUSLY OUR ATTORNEY, UH, TO WORK THROUGH THAT.
AND THEN AS SOON AS IF WE DO APPROVE THIS TODAY, UH, WE WILL WORK WITH CITIES AND COUNTIES AND COMMISSIONERS.
YOU KNOW, THEY, YOU LIVE IN THESE AREAS, SO YOU CERTAINLY NEED TO HAVE COMMENTS AS WELL AS WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS.
BUT, UH, GEORGE, I TOLD YOU WE HAD A PRETTY FRANK DISCUSSION LAST WEEK IN MY OFFICE AND I BELIEVE THAT YOU'LL BE A MAN OF YOUR WORD AND WHAT YOU TOLD ME.
AND, UH, AS FAR AS HELPING US, UH, IMPLEMENT THIS IN COFFEE COUNTY, YOU, YOU, YOU HAVE MY WORD NOT ONLY AS A TEMPORARY ARIZONA RESIDENT BUT ALSO AS A NATIVE TECH.
IT'S ALWAYS GREAT TO COME BACK ON.
ALRIGHT, DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER COMMENTS FROM ANYBODY? DO WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND ON THE FLOOR? UH, ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
OKAY, SO THE MOTION, UH, CARRIES ON THE FREE TO VOTE AND WE'LL MOVE FORWARD IN IMPLEMENTING THIS, UH, VOTE.
DO WE WANT TAKE A BREAK OR AHEAD? WHO VOTED, WHO VOTED? UH, BELIEVE COMMISSIONER SHANE AND, UH, COMMISSIONER, UH, PRIMARILY BECAUSE NOT THE SCHOOL BUS BUT BECAUSE OF THE TRAFFIC SYSTEM THAT WE'RE GONNA BE POTENTIALLY.
ALRIGHT, LET'S TAKE ABOUT A 10 MINUTE BREAK AND THEN WE'LL COME BACK.
I MOVE FORWARD TO ITEM NUMBER EIGHT, UH, TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER EARLY VOTING, UH, SITES IN CAMP.
AND IT SHOULD SAY, UH, CAROL AND CORN TO BE OPEN WITH, UH, FROM 8:00 AM 8:00 AM TO 7:00 PM ON TUESDAY AND THURSDAY OF EARLY VOTING WEEKS, SPECIFICALLY.
THIS CAME FROM MR. WE'LL ASK YOU TO SPEAK TO US ABOUT THAT.
YES, GENTLEMEN, THE REASON I BRING THIS TO YOUR ATTENTION IS BECAUSE EARLY VOTING IS PAID FOR BY THE COUNTY AND NORMALLY WE WOULD HAVE THOSE THREE AREAS OF KEMP CHAIRMAN'S MORNING OPEN, EIGHT TO FIVE.
THE PARTIES HAD ASKED US TO ONLY OPEN, UM, TUESDAY AND THURSDAY TO BE OPEN UNTIL 7:00 PM SO PEOPLE IN THOSE AREAS CAN VOTE LATER IN THE EVENING.
COFFIN IS OPEN ALL FIVE DAYS, 12 TO 12.
THE MAIN OFFICE HAS TO BE OPEN 12 TO 12, THE OTHERS DO NOT.
IT'S A VERY REASONABLE REQUEST.
12, EXCUSE ME, SEVEN TO SEVEN, 12 HOURS A DAY IS WHAT I MEANT.
THE OTHER BRANCH LOCATIONS ARE NOT.
SO WE'RE JUST ASKING FOR TWO EXTRA DAYS.
IT'S A VERY REASONABLE REQUEST AND UH, JUST WANTED TO MAKE YOU AWARE OF IT AND MAKE SURE I HAVE YOUR APPROVAL TO GO AHEAD AND DO THAT.
SO IN OTHER WORDS, THE, THE VOTING AT SUB COURTHOUSE KIM WILL ONLY BE TWO DAYS OF VOTING.
IT WILL BE EIGHT TO FIVE ALL WEEK, BUT WE'D LIKE TO MAKE IT EXTENDED TILL 7:00 PM ON TUESDAY AND THURSDAY.
SO WE'RE JUST EXTENDING THE HOURS ON TWO DAYS A WEEK AT CAMP CHERYL AND 40.
WHY DO WE NOT DO A SATURDAY? BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE TO AND IT'S HARD TO
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GET JUDGES EARN ENOUGH ABOUT HAVING TO WORK SATURDAYS AND SUNDAYS.WELL YOU JUST HAVE A WEEK, DON'T YOU? WE HAVE A WEEK OF EARLY VOTING FOR THE PRIMARY.
NOW WHEN WE HAVE THE, LIKE WE HAD FOR THE RUNOFF, I MEAN WHEN WE HAD THE PRIMARY WE DID HAVE TO DO SATURDAYS AND BUT ON THE, ON THE RUNOFF YOU ONLY HAVE UH, FOUR DAYS.
BUT IF YOU COULDN'T DO A SATURDAY, I DON'T GUESS OR WE'RE NOT REQUIRED TO.
YEAH, SO YOU COULD HAVE, YOU COULD HAVE HAD ONE DAY.
I THOUGHT THE EARLY VOTING HAD TO BE OVER WITH BY A CERTAIN PERIOD OF TIME.
NO, IT'S ACTUALLY GONNA GO ON THE NEXT, UM, I THOUGHT FOUR OR FIVE DAYS.
PUBLICAN HAS TO CONCLUDE BY, SEE WE HAVE TO, WE HAVE TO FINISH IT UP AND GET THE EQUIPMENT OUT.
SO THE FOLLOWING TUESDAY IS THE ELECTION.
AND I'M NOT TRYING TO CONFUSE, I JUST DIDN'T WANT SHORT PERIOD OF TIME RIGHT.
FOR THE RUNOFF, THIS IS JUST FOR THE RUNOFF IS ALL WE'RE TALKING.
SO IT'S AN EXTRA TWO $52 WE HAVE AS THE BUDGET.
SATURDAY ISSUE WAS THE PERSONNEL PART THAT DIDN'T WANNA DO THAT? NO, WE DON'T WANT DO THAT.
YOU DON'T DO WE WE DON'T NEED TO DO IT FOR THE RUNOFF.
WE HAVE FIVE FULL DAYS AND WE HAVE SEVEN TO SEVEN AT THE ANNEX FOR FIVE DAYS THAT WEEK FOR PEOPLE TO COME IN TO VOTE.
AND IF WE OPEN THE SUB THE OTHER THREE SEVEN QUARTER HOUSES, SEVEN TWICE THAT WEEK, THEN WE HAVE ENOUGH TIME FOR PEOPLE TO EARLY VOTE WITHOUT HAVING TO DO ANY MORE THAN THAT.
AND WE'LL PUBLICIZE THOSE, THOSE DATES IN THE PAPERS.
AND DO ALL THOSE, THOSE KIND OF THINGS.
WHAT WAS THE VOTING NUMBER DURING THE PRIMARY GUILTY MEMBER FOR UH, SATURDAY VOTING? WAS THAT A BIG DAY OR THAT DAY? IT WAS A, IT WASN'T THAT BIG BECAUSE YOU COULD ONLY VOTE HERE LIGHT.
RIGHT? IT WAS VERY, EVEN, EVEN LIGHTER ON SUNDAY.
I'M JUST WORRIED ABOUT THE REPRESE OUT THERE ANYWAY.
BUT LIKE A C IT'S GONNA BE DIFFICULT TO GET, I MEAN HARD TO, HARD TO MAKE A GO ANYWAY, BUT UH, WHICH IS WHY OPENING LATE TWO DAYS THAT WEEK WOULD BE GOOD.
YEAH, WELL YEAH DEFINITELY ON THAT PART.
I DIDN'T KNOW SATURDAY WOULD BE A BETTER THING.
COMPARE IT TO, WELL WE ONLY HAD AN ABOUT AN 18% TURNOUT FOR THE PRIMARY ATION.
WE'RE SHOOTING FOR, WE'RE HOPING FOR 7% TURNOUT FRONT THAT RUNOFF BECAUSE THAT'S ABOUT WHAT TO EXPECT.
WE HAVE A MOTION FOR MR. SHANE TO UH, ALLOW THE KIM TER AND COURTHOUSES TO STAY OPEN THE 7:00 PM ON MAY THE 20TH.
UH, COMMISSIONER ROSA, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
NUMBER NINE IS TO DISCUSS, CONSIDER ADOPTING THE PART EACH DRE VERSION 4.1 0.3.
HEART ECAN OPTICAL SCAN VERSION ONE, PART JUDGES BOOT CONTROLLER VERSION FOUR, PART SERVO SOFTWARE VERSION FOUR SIX HEART.
HAVE A SOFTWARE VERSION 4.2 0.8 AND PART ECM SOFTWARE VERSION 1.17 FOR USE IN CA COUNTY ELECTIONS IN APRIL, BEGINNING OF APRIL 7TH.
WAS IT? WE HAVE TO PROVIDE AN ANNUAL REPORT TO THE SECRETARY OF STATE ON WHAT EQUIPMENT WE'RE USING.
SO I'M JUST GETTING, THIS IS ALL OF OUR EQUIPMENT LISTED TOGETHER SO I WANNA MAKE SURE EVERYTHING'S LISTED AND BEFORE THE COURT SO YOU CAN APPROVE THE USE OF ALL OF THE ELECTION EQUIPMENT THAT WE HAVE.
WHATEVER ANY UH, ELECTION AUTHORITY WANTS TO ADOPT.
IT'S ALL APPROVED BY FISHER'S COURT FOR USE IN THIS COUNTY.
IS THIS NEW EQUIPMENT? NOTHING.
WHAT? WE HAVE EXISTING EQUIPMENT, THAT'S CORRECT.
AND DO I HAVE A MOTION ON THIS ITEM? COMMISSIONER DOES ALL I CAN MAKE THAT MOTION.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY I QUESTION.
IT LOOKS LIKE THESE COUNTIES THAT YOU LIVE HERE FOR US, I GUESS SAME SIZE MAYBE OR SIMILAR.
IT IS JUST IN LISTED IN THE WHOLE THING I DIDN'T LISTED FOR YOU.
THAT'S JUST, IT'S JUST PULLED OUT.
THAT'S WHERE WE FOUND IN THE LIST.
I WONDERING EVERYBODY ELSE USE THIS E, S AND S USE? THAT'S, THAT'S DOWN MOTION.
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ITEM NUMBER 10 IS TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER PURCHASING A TRUCK FROM KAMAN COUNTY FIRE MARSHAL'S OFFICE THROUGH THE BUYBOARD PURCHASING PART.OKAY? UH, GENTLEMEN HAVE REQUEST FROM FIRE MARSHAL'S OFFICE TO A PICK AND I HAVE A COPY OF THAT QUOTE SUPER FOR PICKUP FOR BEFORE.
SO PRICE 23,000 9 4 80 AND THROUGH THE COOP COOP PROCESS.
I WOULD MAKE THAT RECOMMENDATION COST THE COUNTY, NOT A GENERAL LARRY.
ANSWER THAT IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, LARRY.
THE, WAS THIS A REPLACEMENT TRUCK YOU HAD? YES SIR.
WE'VE GOT ACTUALLY A 2004 CHEVROLET THAT'S GOT AN ENORMOUS AMOUNT OF MILES ON IT.
BUT THIS PARTICULAR VEHICLE ONE RANDY RICHARDS IS DRIVING.
I SPENT 4,000 ON IT LAST YEAR OR TWO ON REPAIR.
IT'S GOT, STILL HAS A HEATING PROBLEM OF SOME KIND.
SO WE JUST PUT HOW MANY YOU HAVE ANOTHER RESERVE UNIT? YES.
IT GOES BACK TO SUPPOSED TO WAS IT BOUGHT OUTTA THE FIRE TOO? NO.
THE FIRST VEHICLE THEY STARTED.
I HAVE A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER ROSA.
DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND COMMISSIONER MAN.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSIONS? WHAT'S RADIO SUPPRESSION SYSTEM? I'M SORRY, WHAT'S THE RADIO SUPPRESSION SYSTEM? THE STATIC APPEARANCE.
AND OF COURSE I'LL ALSO TELL YOU OUR VEHICLES ARE, THERE'S NOT A WILL BE TAKEN OUT.
SERVICE RESERVE MILEAGE CONSERVATIVE, WHICH PRECINCT YOU'RE IN? ALL IN.