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BUT WE HAVE THE SIGN IN SHEETS THAT IF YOU'D LIKE TO ADDRESS THE COURT AT THE BEGINNING OF THE MEETING OR AT THE TIME THAT WE HAVE A, UH, ITEM ON THE AGENDA, CERTAINLY THAT WOULD BE, UH, FINE IF YOU'LL JUST SIGN THOSE IN, UH, BEFORE WE BEGIN THE MEETING.
AND THE SHERIFF WILL, UH, HAND THEM TO US AFTER WE HAVE OUR, UH, INVOCATION AND THE BEGINNING, UH, THE P AND SO FORTH.
SO WE'LL START THE MEETING IN A COUPLE OF TWO OR THREE MINUTES.
I TO, UH, WELCOME YOU THIS MORNING TO THE, UH, MEETING OF THE, UH, KAMAN COUNTY REGULAR MEETING OF THE KAMAN COUNTY COMMISSION'S COURT.
WE HAVE A GOOD ROOM FULL OF FOLKS, AND, UH, THAT'S WHAT THE GOVERNMENT IS ALL ABOUT.
SO WE APPRECIATE YOUR ATTENDANCE.
WE DO, UH, AGAIN, LET ME ANNOUNCE IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE COURT HERE.
JUST IN A FEW MOMENTS WHEN WE HAVE REMARKS FROM VISITORS, PLEASE, UH, BE SURE TO SIGN IN.
UH, I HAVE ASKED THIS MORNING, UH, REVEREND BRIAN MARETTE WEST, WHO IS THE NEW PASTOR AT THE OAK GROVE BAPTIST CHURCH IN ELMO, TEXAS, UH, TO GIVE OUR INVOCATION AND WE WILL, UH, ASK HIM TO COME FORWARD, AND THEN WE WILL, UH, DO THE PLEDGES TO THE AMERICAN AND, UH, STATE PLAQUE.
SO IF YOU'LL STAND UP ALONG, JOIN ME IN PRAYER.
FATHER, AS WE SEEK YOUR FACE THIS MORNING, MADE OF WORDS OF OUR MOUTHS AND THE MEDITATIONS OF OUR HEARTS, BE PLEASING IN YOUR SIGHT.
LORD, WE ALSO ASK THIS MORNING, AS THESE PROCEEDINGS MOVE FORWARD, WE ASK, LORD, THAT OUR HEARTS WOULD BE IN TUNE WITH YOURS, FATHER, THAT YOU WOULD BLESS KAUFFMAN COUNTY, YOU WOULD BLESS THE GREAT STATE OF TEXAS.
YOU WOULD BLESS THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.
BUT LORD, WE ALSO PRAY JUST AS MUCH AS WE ASK BLESSINGS FROM YOU, WE PRAY WE WOULD BE A BLESSING TO YOU AS WELL.
SO, FATHER, WE JUST PRAY YOUR HEDGE OF PROTECTION AROUND US.
GIVE US WISDOM AS WE MOVE FORWARD FROM HERE.
THANK YOU FOR OUR APPOINTED LEADERSHIP, AND MAY YOU BLESS THEM AND MAY YOU HELP US TO INCREASE FOR YOUR KINGDOM, FOR YOUR GLORY AS WELL.
IT'S IN YOUR NAME, JESUS WE PRAY.
AMENE THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH HE STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, AN INDIVIDUAL WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL ON HONOR, FLAG, I ALLEGIANCE TO BE ONE, SAY UNDER GOD, ONE INDIVIDUAL.
OKAY, WE HAVE, UH, SEVERAL PEOPLE HERE THAT, UH, WISH TO SPEAK, UM, AND SOME OF THEM WANT TO SPEAK ON THE INDIVIDUAL, UH, ITEMS. UH, FIRST IS, UH, UH, BOB SCHULTE, WHO, UH, HAS A COFFMAN ADDRESS AND, UH, MR. SCHULTE, IS THAT HOW YOU PRONOUNCE YOUR NAME? YES, SIR.
IF YOU'D LIKE TO COME FORWARD, DO YOU WISH TO DO IT LATER ON IN THE AGENDA? OKAY.
COME ON UP AND YOU'LL IDENTIFY YOURSELF.
UH, WE APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE.
WE DO HAVE A THREE MINUTE LIMIT ON THE OPENING COMMENTS, AND YOU'LL KEEP UP WITH THAT.
UM, I MOVED FOR SEVEN YEARS AGO FROM LONGVIEW, AND, UH, I'D JUST LIKE TO SPEAK ABOUT THE CONDITIONS OF OUR ROADS AND BRIDGES IN THE COUNTY BECAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE OVER THOSE LAST SEVEN YEARS THEY'VE DETERIORATED MORE AND MORE.
AND I'M NOT A POLITICAL TYPE PERSON.
I DON'T KNOW THE INSIDES OF THE GOVERNMENT VERY WELL, BUT I'VE BEEN TOLD THAT THAT TAX, UH, AMOUNT, THE ROAD AND BRIDGE FUNDS, THAT'S BEEN CUT LATELY.
I DUNNO IF THAT'S ACCURATE OR NOT.
I JUST FEEL LIKE WE REALLY NEED TO SPEND MORE MONEY ON, ON INFRASTRUCTURE IN THIS COUNTY, ESPECIALLY ROADS AND BRIDGES.
UM, AS A TAXPAYER ON A DAY-TODAY BASIS, I MEAN, I USE MY ROAD EVERY DAY.
MOST PEOPLE IN COUNTY USE ROADS EVERY DAY.
I WOULD JUST THROW SOME MONEY SPENT ON THAT IN SAY, JAILS AND TRAFFIC CAMERAS OR 9 1 1, THINGS LIKE THAT.
I MEAN, I KNOW THOSE ARE ALL NEEDED, BUT THIS IS KIND OF A SMALL CITY AND I JUST THINK ROADS AND BRIDGES ARE, SHOULD BE A PRIORITY.
I KNOW I CALL MY COMMISSIONER AND GIVE THEM HELP OUT MY ROAD, AND I THINK THEIR HANDS ARE TIED.
I MEAN, I JUST, THEY CAN ONLY DO WHAT THEY CAN DO WITH THE AMOUNT OF FUNDING THEY'VE GOT.
AND, UH, I JUST WOULDN'T WANNA BE IN A POSITION THAT I, I HAD, I PAY A LOT OF TAXES TO THIS COUNTY, AND I FEEL LIKE THE ROAD LEAVING
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YOUR PROPERTY REALLY IMPORTANT.SAY, I, I DON'T WANNA SELL MY PROPERTY BECAUSE I HAVE A REALLY HORRIBLE ACCESS TO MY PROPERTY, IS GONNA AFFECT MY PROPERTY VALUES.
I KNOW WHEN I HAVE FRIENDS COME FROM DALLAS, THEY COME IN MY LITTLE COUNTY ROAD, THEY GO, DAMN, WHAT'S GOING ON? THIS IS, THIS IS NOT GOOD.
I KNOW MONEY'S REALLY TIGHT, BUT IF ANY POSSIBLE WAY, I'D LIKE TO SEE THE FUNDING FOR BRIDGES.
WE HAVE, UH, CHUCK, SHE, UH, FROM ELMO, TEXAS WHO WISH TO DISCUSS CLEANUP TODAY OFF COUNTY CLEANUP.
APPRECIATE EVERYBODY COMING TO MY MEETING TODAY.
ELMO IS SMALL COMMUNITY AS Y'ALL MOST AWARE OF ON EASTERN PORT COUNTY.
WE HAVE VERY GOOD WATER PERFORATION, VERY GOOD VOLUNTEER FIRE DEPARTMENT, AN EXCELLENT CRIME WATCH TEAM AND THE ELK GROVE BAPTIST CHURCH.
WE ARE WANTING TO HAVE A SPECIAL DAY ON OUR CLEANUP DAY.
UH, WE'LL COINCIDE WITH WHEN THE COUNTY DOES AND OUR CRIME WATCH MEETING ON MARCH THE 20TH.
WE DECIDED VOTED FOR ALL THESE FORCES TO GO JOIN TOGETHER TO PARTICIPATE IN A, UH, THAT DAY AND TO HAVE A BREAKFAST, A LUNCHEON, CLEAN UP THE TOWN, CLEAN UP THE, UH, UH, THE DITCHES, CALL OUT TREES AND HAVE A GOOD DAY.
AND ONE OF OUR GUYS HAD TALKED WITH OUR COMMISSIONER ABOUT IT EARLIER ABOUT GETTING SOME CONTAINER, AND HE SAID THAT HE WAS GONNA GO UP TO CHERYL WITH IT, WHERE HE'D BEEN FOR THE LAST TWO YEARS.
AND I TOLD HIM I'D GIVE HIM A CALL IN ON THE, UH, 21ST.
I DID CALL MR. HANNEY AND WE TALKED ABOUT IT AND HE SAID YES, THAT IT WAS THE BEST LOCATION, BUT I TOLD HIM WHAT WE WERE GONNA DO AND HOW MANY PEOPLE WE WERE GONNA HAVE PARTICIPATE IN AND, UH, FELT LIKE IT WOULD BE BEST IF WE COULD HAVE SOMETHING THERE IN ELMO.
AND AT THAT TIME, HE INDICATED HE WOULD GO AND BE COMING AND TALKING TO THE JUDGE ABOUT THAT.
THIS WAS ON A FRIDAY, MONDAY THE 24TH WAS COMMISSIONER'S COURT DATE.
AND DURING THE COURT DATE, THIS CAME UP AND, UH, IT WENT BY AND EVERYBODY, UH, AGREED THAT WE WERE GONNA DO IT.
AND THEN THEY WERE ASKED, IS EVERYTHING GONNA BE THE SAME AS LAST YEAR? AND HE WAS TOLD YES.
DURING THE BREAK, I ASKED MR. SHANE IF HE HAD JUST THROWN US IN THE DITCH BECAUSE HE SAID, YES, THAT'S GONNA BE THE SAME.
HE SAID, THAT'S JUST FOR THE DATES AND EVERYTHING HERE FOR THE DATE.
IT WAS JUST FOR THE DATES AND THE REST OF IT WOULD COME LATER.
I SAID, WE'RE WILLING TO WORK WITH WHATEVER WE NEED TO DO, HELP EQUIPMENT, WHATEVER, NO PROBLEM.
UH, APRIL THE FIRST OR SECOND, I GOT A CALL FROM MARTIN, MR. SHANE'S SECRETARY, AND SHE SAID, MS. SHA WANTED TO KNOW IF Y'ALL WERE GONNA HELP HIM DO THIS.
I SAID, YEP, WE TALKED ABOUT THIS AND WHATEVER NEEDS TO BE DONE.
I SAID, THAT'S HIM TO CALLED AND HE DEAL.
AND I SAID, WHAT DO YOU WANT US TO DO? WE CAN DO ANYTHING.
AND HE'S, SO WE SIGN IN PEOPLE'S SECURITY THAT NIGHT AND BE AROUND TO MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE OF THE CA COUNTY THAT DONE.
I SAID, WE'VE GOT EQUIPMENT WE CAN DO, WE YOU.
ANYWAY, WE WENT INTO, UH, UH, I GOT A CALL THE NEXT DAY AND SAID, NO, WE CAN'T DO IT BECAUSE WE WERE, UH, THE PURCHASING AGENT SAID THAT IT WAS, UH, HE COULDN'T DO IT.
AND, UH, ANYWAY, MR. CHASTAIN TOLD ME THAT THE REASON THAT HE COULDN'T DO IT IS BECAUSE HE WAS 10 DAYS LATE COMING OVER TO GET IT ON THE BIDS.
AND BIDS HAD GONE OUT, BUT HE HAD OFFERED TO, UH, GIVE 'EM, PUT OUT AN ADDENDUM AND MR. SHANE SAID, NO, DON'T WORRY ABOUT IT.
CHASTAIN THE JUDGE, KEN, ME AND THE SHERIFF, ALL THE PLAYERS ARE HERE.
WE HAVE TWO OTHER, UH, PEOPLE HERE, RONNIE DAVIS AND, UH, MAYOR AL RICHARDS FROM, UH, THE CITY OF TERRELL.
UH, RONNIE IS WITH THE, UH, KAUFMAN, UH, FIRE DEPARTMENT.
I BELIEVE Y'ALL ARE HERE TO DISCUSS THE REGIONAL FIRE DEPARTMENT, UH, THE REGIONAL 9 1 1 CENTER.
UH, WE WILL, I'M GONNA MOVE THAT UP ON THE AGENDA HERE JUST MOMENTARILY.
UH, AFTER WE GET THROUGH WITH OUR ROUTINE, UH, UH, UH, COMMENTS HERE AND SOME OF OUR, UH, ITEMS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA.
SO APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE, AND I'LL CALL YOU UP AT THAT AT THAT POINT.
UH, WE DO HAVE, UH, SOME ROUTINE CORRESPONDENCE IN YOUR, UH, PACKET TODAY.
BY THE WAY, THAT'S ALL THE PEOPLE THAT I HAVE THAT WERE SIGNED UP ON THIS, UH, SHEET TO SPEAK.
UH, AT THE BEGINNING OF THE MEETING.
UH, YOU DO HAVE THE ROUTINE CORRESPONDENCE.
THIS IS AN AUDIT, AND TO, UH, MY KNOWLEDGE, THIS IS THE AUDIT THAT IS REQUIRED TO LEAD BY THE STATE FOR THE KAMAN COUNTY JUVENILE PROBATION DEPARTMENT.
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COPY OF THAT.AND, UH, WE WILL FIND OUT IF IT REQUIRES APPROVAL OR NOT BY THE COMMISSION'S COURT.
I'M NOT SURE AT THIS POINT IN TIME, BUT THAT IS YOUR COPY IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO, UH, HAVE IT BETWEEN NOW.
THE NEXT NEXT MEETING WE HAVE HAVE A NUMBER OF ITEMS ON THE, UH, CONSENT AGENDA, AND I'LL READ THROUGH THOSE QUICKLY.
UH, I ASKED TO DISCUSS, CONSIDER PROCLAIMING THE WEEK OF APRIL THE SIXTH THROUGH 12TH, UH, AS THE, UH, NATIONAL CRIME VICTIM RIGHTS.
WE IN KAMAN COUNTY, UH, JUDGE WILEY.
OUR DA HAS ASKED IF WE APPROVE THAT THIS MORNING, AND WE WILL READ THAT JUST MOMENTARILY.
ALSO, WE HAVE A RESOLUTION OF PROCLAIMING THE MONTH OF APRIL, 2014 AS SEXUAL, UH, ASSAULT AWARENESS MONTH IN KAMAN COUNTY.
I KNOW, I BELIEVE WE HAVE SOME FOLKS HERE THIS MORNING FROM THE HEALING HEARTS MINISTRY.
AND, UH, WE WILL INVITE THEM UP JUST IN A MOMENT TO, UH, RECEIVE, UH, THEIR, UH, RESOLUTION.
UH, ITEM C IS TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER APPROVING THE FINANCIAL STATEMENTS FOR EMERGENCY SERVICES DISTRICT NUMBER THREE.
ITEM D IS TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER APPROVAL OF A TAX RESALE OF, UH, SUIT NUMBER 64 6 44.
LEGAL DESCRIPTION, NELSON BLOCK FOUR LIGHT LOT EIGHT B ON BOONE STREET IN COFFEE COUNTY PRECINCT.
ITEM E IS TO DISCUSS, CONSIDER APPROVAL OF A TAX RESALE OF REFERENCE NUMBER A DASH 2 23.
UH, THIS IS DESCRIBED AS BEING IN THE FRED MEREDITH BLOCK 2 62, UH, LOSS ONE, TWO, AND THREE, UH, LOCATED AT 200, UH, SOUTH PARK STREET IN THE CITY OF, UH, TERRELL IN PRECINCT THREE.
UH, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER APPROVAL OF A TAX RESALE OF REFERENCE NUMBER A DASH 3 0 3 3 0 5, UH, SUIT CAUSE NUMBER 7 5 9 5 1 DASH 86.
LEGAL DESCRIPTION AS UH, DESCRIBED AS BEING TERRELL REVISED BLOCK 2 61, UH, LOT C THIS IS ALSO LOCATED IN TERRELL AT 200 SOUTH PARK STREET, WHICH IS IN CATON COUNTY PRECINCT THREE.
ADAM G IS TO DISCUSS CONSIDER OF A TAX RESALE OF REFERENCE, UH, NUMBER A DASH 3 2 9, SUIT NUMBER 8 1 8 4 8 DASH EIGHT SIX.
LEGAL DESCRIPTION, TERRELL REIVE BLOCK TWO 40, UH, LOT THREE AND FOUR A.
AND THAT'S LOCATED AT 7 0 9 SOUTH PADDY IN TER IN CAMAN COUNTY PRECINCT THREE.
UH, ITEM NUMBER EIGHT IS TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER APPROVAL OF THE TAX RESALE REFERENCE DASH EIGHT DASH 3 3 4, UH, CAUSE NUMBER 8 3 8 7 6 DASH 86.
LEGAL DESCRIPTION IS JOHNSON, UH, BLOCK 24 LOT ONE EIGHT AT 5 0 7 WASHINGTON STREET IN TERRELL CAMAN COUNTY PRECINCT THREE.
AND THEN ITEM, UH, NUMBER I IS TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER APPROVING A, UH, PROJECT AGREEMENT FOR ADDING BASE MATERIAL TO THE, UH, ABEL SPRINGS VOLUNTEER FIRE DEPARTMENT, UH, PARKING LOT IN, UH, CA COUNTY PRECINCT.
NUMBER THREE, I BELIEVE COMMISSIONER SHANE DID BRING A NEW, UH, UH, INSTRUMENT FOR US TO SIGN THIS MORNING IF WE APPROVE, UH, THAT ONE.
SO THE ONE IN YOUR PACKET, UH, BEEN UPDATED WITH EU THAT WAS PRESENTED THIS MORNING, UH, BEFORE I READ THE, UH, PROCLAMATIONS.
AND WE, UH, WILL DO THAT AFTER WE, UH, GO THROUGH THE CONSENT AGENDA.
DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT ANY ITEM ON THE CONSENT AGENDA? YES, I'D THE GOING ITEM C, WE DISCUSS, CONSIDER APPROVING THE FINANCIAL STATEMENT TO ACCEPTING THE FINANCIAL STATEMENT.
I'LL MAKE THE MOTION TO THE CONSENT.
WE HAVE THE MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA.
DO WE HAVE A SET? SECOND, UH, COMMISSIONER ROSA SECONDS.
UH, ANY OTHER DISCUSSIONS? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
NOW WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO, I'LL STEP DOWN AND THE FIRST ONE WE'LL READ AND PRESENT WILL BE THE, UH, NATIONAL CRIME VICTIMS WEEK, UH, RIGHTS AWARD.
AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE ONE, UH, ON THE HE PARTS, UH, GROUP THAT WE WILL TALK ABOUT THE SEXUAL ASSAULT AWARENESS MONTH.
SO THOSE OF YOU THAT ARE HERE FOR THAT PERSON, UH, PURPOSE, STEP UP.
UH, WE'LL, UH, READ THIS AND PRESENT THROUGH.
KEN, YOU'RE HERE WITH THE HEALING HEART.
THIS IS COMMISSIONER KEN LEONARD, UH, WHO WAS ON THE COURT A FEW YEARS AGO, AND HE'S
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REPRESENTING THE HEALING HEART FOLKS, AND WE'VE GOT YOURS IN A NICE LITTLE, UH, I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH IT COST, BUT IT'S PROBABLY NOT VERY EXPENSIVE.ANYWAY, WE DO HAVE THE OTHER, AND THE REASON WE DON'T HAVE A, UH, THE OTHER ONE IN A, UH, FORM, THE COMMISSIONERS NEED TO SIGN IN.
SO, WHEREAS, UH, THE, THIS IS A PROCLAMATION, WHEREAS SEXUAL ASSAULT CONTINUES TO BE A MAJOR SOCIAL CRISIS IN OUR SOCIETY.
AND WHEREAS SEXUAL ASSAULT, UH, AFFECTS EVERY CHILD AND ADULTS IN KAUFMAN COUNTY AS A VICTIM, SURVIVOR, OR AS A FAMILY MEMBER, SIGNIFICANT OTHER NEIGHBORS OR COWORKERS OF A VICTIM SURVIVOR.
AND WHEREAS VOLUNTEERS AND SERVICE PROVIDERS IN OUR COMPANY ARE WORKING TO PROVIDE A CONTINUUM OF CARE TO SEXUAL ASSAULT SURVIVORS THROUGH 24 HOUR HOTLINES, COUNSELING, SUPPORT GROUPS, ADVOCACY, MEDICAL CARE AND EDUCATION.
AND WHEREAS HHM FAMILY CRISIS CENTER, UH, AND THAT'S EVENING HEARTS MINISTRY SEEKS TO IMPROVE SERVICES FOR VICTIMS, SURVIVORS OF SEXUAL ASSAULTS AND PREVENT FUTURE SEXUAL ASSAULT THROUGH PUBLIC AWARENESS AND SERVICES FOR VICTIMS. AND WHEREAS THIS COMMUNITY RECOGNIZES THE VITAL IMPORTANCE OF DESIGNATING A TIME DEVOTED TO INCREASE THE GENERAL PUBLIC'S AWARENESS AND SUPPORT OF AGENCIES PROVIDING SERVICES TO RAPE, RAPE VICTIMS. AND WHEREAS WE HOLD FORTH A VISION OF A COMMUNITY FREE, UH, FROM SEXUAL VIOLENCE, UH, RESOLVED THAT I BRUCE WOOD DO HEREBY A PROCLAIM THE MONTH OF APRIL, 2014 AS, UH, SEXUAL AWARENESS MONTH.
AND THAT'S SIGNED AS OF TODAY, UH, APRIL THE 24TH.
WE APPRECIATE THE WORK THAT THIS GROUP DOES ALL OVER THE COUNTY.
THEY SERVE A VERY NEEDED, UH, SERVICE IN OUR COUNTY.
AND THEY DO IT, UH, WITH, UH, UH, WITH GREAT PROFESSIONALISM, AND SO WE APPRECIATE THAT.
THE NEXT ONE IS, UH, WAS PRESENTED BY JUDGE WILEY, I DON'T BELIEVE EARLY IS HERE THIS MORNING.
UH, WE WILL GET HERS IN A, UH, YOU KNOW, A PLAQUE AS WELL.
UH, BUT LET ME GO AHEAD AND READ THIS TO YOU.
UH, THIS, UH, IS DESIGNATING, UH, UH, NATIONAL CRIME VICTIM RIGHTS WEEK, APRIL THE SIXTH WEEK 12TH, UH, WHICH WAS ACTUALLY LAST WEEK.
UH, WHEREAS VICTIMS' RIGHTS ARE A CRITICAL COMPONENT OF OUR SYSTEM OF JUSTICE IN AMERICA.
AND WHEREAS AMERICA RECOGNIZES THAT WE MAKE OUR HOMES, UH, NEIGHBORHOODS AND COMMUNITIES SAFER AND STRONGLY BY STRONGER, BY SERVING VICTIMS OF CRIME AND ENSURING JUSTICE FOR ALL, ALL.
AND WHEREAS MORE THAN 23 MILLION AMERICANS ARE VICTIMS OF CRIME EACH YEAR, JUST STOP.
THINK 23 MILLION AMERICANS ARE VICTIMS OF CRIME EACH YEAR.
AND OF THOSE 5.8 MILLION ARE VICTIMS OF VIOLENT CRIMES.
AND WHEREAS THE TOTAL ECONOMIC LOSS TO VICTIMS WAS OVER $2 BILLION FOR VIOLENT CRIMES AND OVER 16 BILLION FOR PROPERTY CRIMES.
WHEREAS IN 1981, PRESIDENT RONALD REAGAN DESIGNATED A WEEK IN APRIL AS NATIONAL CRIME VICTIMS RIGHTS SUITE.
AND WHEREAS KAUFMAN COUNTY ACKNOWLEDGES AND SYMPATHIZES WITH CRIME IMPACT ON INDIVIDUALS, FAMILIES, AND OUR COMMUNITIES, AND WHEREAS KAUFMAN COUNTY, ALONG WITH THE VICTIMS, UH, SERVICE PROGRAMS AND CRIMINAL JUSTICE OFFICIALS WISH TO RAISE, UH, AWARENESS ABOUT VICTIM'S RIGHTS AS WELL AS EXPAND AND PROTECT SAID RIGHTS.
WHEREAS THIS IS THE 30TH ANNIVERSARY OF THE PASSAGE OF THE VICTIMS OF CRIME ACT.
AND THIS YEAR'S THEME, IT'S RESTORING THE BALANCE OF JUSTICE.
UH, NOW, THEREFORE, I HERLEY WILEY, UH, WHO SIGNED THIS ATTORNEY, ATTORNEY CAMAN COUNTY TO MOVE THE CAMAN COUNTY TO MOVE THE KAMAN COUNTY COMMISSIONER'S COURT OF CAMAN COUNTY TO DESIGNATE APRIL 6TH, 12TH, 2014, AS NATIONAL CRIME VICTIM'S RIGHTS, WE IN CALTON COUNTY SO AS TO EXPRESS APPRECIATION FOR THOSE VICTIMS AND CRIME VER SURVIVORS TURN PERSONAL TRAGEDY INTO A MOTIVATING FORCE TO IMPROVE OUR RESPONSE TO VICTIMS FOR CRIME, A BUILD A MORE JUST COMMUNITY.
FURTHER, I MOVE THAT THE COURT DESIGNATE APRIL THE NINTH AS NATIONAL CRIME VICTIM DRIVE STAY IN KAMAN COUNTY, AND IT'S SIGNED BY JUDGE VILLE VILLE WILEY.
THOSE OF YOU THAT WERE, UH, AT THE, UH, EVENT WE HAD LAST, UH, WEEK AT, UH, CARMONA, WELL OVER A HUNDRED PEOPLE THERE, I SEE MANY OF THE FACES THAT WERE HERE.
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WAS TRULY A, UH, A GREAT, UH, EVENT, UH, WHERE, UH, THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AND OTHERS, UH, UH, RECOGNIZED THE FACT THAT WHEN CRIMES OCCUR, THERE ARE VICTIMS. MOST OF US HAVE PROBABLY BEEN A VICTIM OF SOME TYPE OF CRIME.MAYBE NOT A VIOLENT CRIME, BUT MAYBE SOME OTHER TYPE OF CRIME.
WHEN VIOLENT CRIME OCCURS, THERE CERTAINLY, UH, IS, UH, PEOPLE NEED SUPPORT.
SOMETIMES THEY HAVE FAMILY SUPPORT, SOMETIMES THEY HAVE CHURCH SUPPORT, BUT MANY TIMES THEY HAVE NO SUPPORT.
AND THAT'S WHERE THIS GROUP COMES INTO PLAY.
AND SO WE SHOULD BE THANKFUL THAT WE HAVE SUCH AN ACTIVE GROUP IN OUR COMMUNITY.
I KNOW WE'VE GOT A NUMBER OF FIRST RESPONDERS THAT ARE HERE THIS MORNING AND, UH, SOME OTHERS THAT, UH, HERE I'M GONNA MOVE ITEM, UH, ARE THE FOLKS HERE FROM THE, UH, REGIONAL COUNCIL GOVERNMENTS, UH, Y'ALL ARE HERE.
UH, I REALLY WOULD LIKE FOR, UH, YOU TO, AND I THINK EVERYBODY HAS A HANDOUT.
STEVE MADE SOME ADDITIONAL HANDOUTS.
UNFORTUNATELY, WE'RE NOT ABLE TO SHOW A, UH, A PRESENTATION ON WALL, BUT I WOULD LIKE EVERYBODY TO HEAR YOUR PRESENTATION BEFORE WE MOVE INTO ITEM 15.
UH, JUST SO WHILE WE'VE GOT THIS CAPTIVE AUDIENCE HERE, EVERYBODY WILL KNOW WHAT, UH, THE COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENT IS ASKING LOCAL GOVERNMENTS TO DO.
MORNING COMMISSIONERS, UM, I RUSSELL I'M THE DATABASE, UH, SUPERVISOR FOR THE COUNCIL GOVERNMENT'S OFFICE.
AND WHAT I, WHAT YOU HAVE IN YOUR HAND, YOUR PACKET AND YOUR HANDOUT IS A PRESENTATION THAT WE'VE BEEN DOING NOT ONLY IN KAUFMAN COUNTY, BUT IN THE OTHER 13 COUNTIES WE SERVE AROUND THE REGION.
AND JUST TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE BACKGROUND, UM, IN TWO, IN THE LAST SESSION, THE CAPITAL AREA, CAPITAL CAPITAL AREA COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENTS ACTUALLY HAD A, A PIECE OF LEGISLATURE PASSED AND THEY BECAME A REGIONAL 9 1 1 DISTRICT.
WHAT THAT REALLY MEANS TO YOU AND I IS, INSTEAD OF THEM BEING PART OF THE STATE PROGRAM AND THE STATE MAKING DECISIONS FOR THEM, THEY ARE NOW THEIR OWN DISTRICT.
THEY MAKE THEIR OWN DECISIONS FOR THEIR 9 1 1, UH, DEPARTMENT.
AND ALSO THEY GATHER, THEY ACTUALLY COLLECT THEIR OWN MONEY.
THOSE ARE THE IMPORTANT THINGS.
WE ASK THEM HOW EVERYTHING HAS BEEN GOING, AND THEY HAVE NOT GIVEN US ANY NEGATIVES AT ALL.
SO, SO WHAT YOU HAVE THOUGH, IS THE, UH, PRESENTATION WE'VE BEEN DOING, AND IT ACTUALLY GOES THROUGH AND GIVES, THE FIRST SLIDE YOU WILL SEE, ACTUALLY GIVES YOU, UM, A, UH, BACKGROUND AND HISTORY OF THE COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENTS.
WE ARE, WE DO SERVE 13 COUNTIES.
WE SUPPLY ALL NINE ONE SERVICES FROM THE TIME THE CALL IS MADE TO THE TIME THE CALL IS DELIVERED TO YOUR, FOR YOUR CITIZENS IN YOUR COUNTY AND YOUR CITIES.
WE ALSO, UM, DO ALL, WE ALSO HAVE OTHER SERVICES WE SUPPLY.
WE DO CALL TAKER TRAINING, WE DO PUBLIC EDUCATION.
WE HAVE A PSAP ADVOCATE PROGRAM.
WE HAVE A 24 BY SEVEN MAINTENANCE TEAM THAT IS ALL THEY ARE IS DEDICATED TO 9 1 1.
UM, WE HAVE A, UM, WE DO DATABASE SERVICES, WHICH IS MY DEPARTMENT THAT WE MANAGE, AND WE ARE TRULY A 9 1 1 TURNKEY SOLUTION FOR YOUR COUNTY AND YOUR CITIES.
UM, I'M GONNA TELL YOU, I'M HAVING TECHNICAL DIFFICULTY WITH MY JOB.
THERE ARE, UM, IF YOU TURN TO, UH, JUST A QUICK OVERVIEW, THERE ARE TWO TYPES OF, OF FEES IN THE, UH, IN THE STATE OF TEXAS 4 9 1 SERVICES.
THERE IS A 50 CENT FEE, WHICH YOU PAY EVERY MONTH ON YOUR WIRE LINE AND WIRELESS TELEPHONE BILL.
THAT FEE IS SET AND CAPPED BY STATUTE, AND IT IS COLLECTED BY THE TELEPHONE COMPANIES AND THE WIRELESS SERVICE PROVIDERS.
THEY TAKE A 2% ADMINISTRATIVE FEE, WHICH IS ABOUT A PENNY, AND THEN THEY REMIT ALL THAT MONEY TO THE STATE COMPTROLLER'S OFFICE.
THERE'S ALSO A 6% OR A 6 CENTS, UH, SURCHARGE FEE THAT EVERYBODY IN THE STATE OF TEXAS PAYS.
AND THAT ACTUALLY GOES TO THE COMPTROLLER AS WELL, AND GOES INTO WHAT WE CALL A SERVICE OR SURCHARGE ACCOUNT.
AND ANYBODY IN THE STATE OF TEXAS FOR 9 1 1 CAN ACTUALLY REQUEST THAT MONEY.
UM, WE ARE VERY LUCKY THAT WE HAVE THE POPULATION IN OUR REGIONAL COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENT THAT WE DO NOT HAVE TO DIP INTO THAT SURCHARGE.
WE ARE TRULY A SERVICE FEE COG, AND WE SURVIVE ON
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ALL THE 50 CENT WE COLLECT.UH, WHAT WE ARE REALLY TRYING TO DO WITH THIS WHOLE, UH, RE WHAT WE'RE DOING IS A DUE DILIGENCE PROJECT.
WE ARE LOOKING AT TRYING TO BECOME A REGIONAL 9 1 1 DISTRICTS.
WHAT THAT MEANS FOR THE CITIES AND COUNTIES, INSTEAD OF THE MONEY GOING TO THE COMPTROLLER'S OFFICE, GOING THROUGH THE LEGISLATIVE APPROPRIATIONS PROCESS, NOT GETTING ALL OF OUR FUNDING, AND, UH, WAITING EVERY TWO YEARS.
IT MEANS THAT OUR MONEY WOULD COME DIRECTLY TO US ON A MONTHLY MANNER.
WE WOULD ALSO, UM, WE WOULD COLLECT ALL OUR FEES IN TOO.
UM, THAT'S REALLY WHAT WE'RE DOING ON OUR DUE DILIGENCE PROJECT IS WE'RE TRYING TO EDUCATE EVERYBODY AND LET 'EM KNOW THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT, UH, BECOMING A REGIONAL NINE ONE DISTRICT.
SOME HIGHLIGHTS THAT THE, UH, TEXAS ASSOCIATION OF REGIONAL COUNCILS IS ACTUALLY WORKING ON FOR A, AN UMBRELLA BILL FOR ANY COG IN THE STATE TO, TO ACTUALLY JOIN IN AND BECOME A REGIONAL 9 1 1 DISTRICT.
THEY'RE LOOKING AT UMBRELLA LEGISLATION FOR ANY COG TO OPT IN.
OUR BOARD OF DIRECTORS AT THE COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENTS, AS MOST OF Y'ALL KNOW, IS VERY HEAVY ON THE, UH, WITH TART DALLAS.
AND JUST AT, UH, DENTON COUNTY REPRESENTATIVES, OUR EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR REALIZED THAT AND HE CAME BACK TO US AND SAID, YOU KNOW, IF, IF WE GO THIS ROUTE AND WE BECOME A DISTRICT, OUR BOARD OF DIRECTORS WILL BE MADE UP OF ONLY MEMBERS OF THE 9 1 1 PROGRAM.
SO THERE WOULD BE NO REPRESENTATION FROM ANY OF THE HOMEWORK, WHAT WE CALL MUNICIPALITY EMERGENCY COMMUNICATION DISTRICTS.
UM, THERE WOULD BE NO ONE FROM TARRANT COUNTY, NO ONE FROM DENTON COUNTY.
IT WOULD JUST BE THE MEMBERS OF THE 9 1 1 PROGRAM OF WICHITA COUNTY, YES.
AND JUDGE, UH, YOU ACTUALLY SERVE ON OUR REGIONAL ADVISORY COMMITTEE, WHICH WILL ACTUALLY PROBABLY END UP, UH, HELPING US MAKE THIS DECISIONS ON THOSE NUMBERS.
COG WILL STILL ACT AS OUR PHYSICAL AND ADMINISTRATIVE AGENT, UM, BOUNDARIES WILL, WILL BE EXISTING FOR THE PROGRAM AREA.
WE'RE NOT CHANGING ANYTHING AS FAR AS BOUNDARIES CONCERNED, PSAPS, UH, PUBLIC SAFETY ANSWERING POINTS.
WE'RE NOT CHANGING ANY OF THAT.
IT WILL, WILL BE, WILL REMAIN AS IS ALSO OUR 50 CENT FEE WILL REMAIN THE SAME.
UH, OUR EXECUTIVE DIRECTORS ACROSS THE STATE FEEL VERY CONFIDENT THAT WE CAN, THAT WE HAVE BEEN SURVIVING ON OUR 50 CENTS AND ACTUALLY MUCH LESS THAN OUR 50 CENTS FOR THE LAST 20 YEARS.
AND WE FEEL LIKE WE CAN SURVIVE.
BUT MOVING FORWARD, IF WE BECOME A REGIONAL DISTRICT, OTHER DISTRICTS MAY JOIN OR MERGE WITH MUTUAL, MUTUAL CONSENT OF BOTH BOARDS.
WHAT THAT MEANS TO, UM, TO, TO ANYONE IN A DISTRICT MEANS IF THEY DECIDE THAT THEY WANT TO BECOME PART OF A REGIONAL, REGIONAL, UH, 9 1 1 PROGRAM, THEIR BOARD AND OUR BOARD WOULD HAVE TO MUTUALLY AGREE AND, AND FOR THEM TO BECOME ONE, WE WOULD HAVE THE ABILITY TO CONTRACT MANAGED SERVICES.
TODAY, WE ACTUALLY HAVE A MANAGED SERVICE PROGRAM THROUGH THE NINE ONE, UH, THROUGH OUR 9 1 1 PROJECT.
AND WE HAVE, UH, ONE MUNICIPALITY THAT CAME TO US AND SAID THAT THEY NEEDED BETTER 9 1 1 SERVICE AND THEY WANTED IT TO BE WITH US.
AND SO WE ACTUALLY HAVE A CONTRACT WITH ONE MUNICIPALITY THAT, UH, THAT WE MANAGE THEIR 9 1 1 FOR THEM.
THEY ACTUALLY PAY A FEE TO THE COST.
THIS TRULY WILL BE A NO HARM BILL.
SO IF THE NORTH CENTRAL TEXAS COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENTS DECIDES TO BE, TO MOVE FORWARD, GET THIS LEGISLATION PASSED AND BECOME A REGIONAL 9 1 1 DISTRICT, IT WILL NOT HARM ANYONE ELSE IN THE STATE BECAUSE BY STATUTE, THE NINE ONE SERVICE FEE CANNOT BE USED FOR, FOR ANY IN ANY OTHER REGION EXCEPT THE REGION IT'S COLLECTED IN.
SO THAT'S REALLY OUR, THAT'S MY HOUR PRESENTATION IN A NUTSHELL.
SO DOES ANYBODY THE QUESTIONS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? WELL, THE HANDOUT IS HELPFUL.
WHAT THIS ALL BOILS DOWN TO, AND YOU, YOU VERY PRI IN THE WAY YOU PRESENTED THIS, BUT WHAT'S HAPPENING NOW IS, IS THE MONEY THAT YOU AND I AND THE PEOPLE THAT ARE IN THIS ROOM ON OUR CELL PHONES, OUR HOME PHONES, THERE IS A 50 CENT 9 1 1 FEE THAT'S ATTACHED TO EACH ONE OF THOSE.
AND THAT'S THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS, MILLIONS OF DOLLARS THAT NOW GO TO AUSTIN AND TO BE USED FOR 9 1 1 SERVICES THAT AM I SPEAKING CORRECT? CORRECT.
THEY, THE, THE TELEPHONE COMPANY COLLECTS THOSE FOR THE, FOR BOTH WIRELESS AND WIRE LINE.
THEY ACTUALLY GO INTO A, WE CALL IT A, THEY CALL IT A SERVICE FEE FUND OR A DEDICATED ACCOUNT.
UM, IT'S KIND OF ALMOST A TRUST FUND.
AND THEN EVERY TWO YEARS THE LEGISLATORS GO IN THROUGH THE LEGISLATIVE PROCESS AND THEY ACTUALLY APPROPRIATE
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SOME OF THAT MONEY BACK TO US.NOT ALL OF IT, BUT NOT ALL OF IT.
AND DO YOU KNOW HOW MUCH MONEY HAS NOT BEEN, UH, HOW MUCH MONEY IS IN THE, IN THE BANK ACCOUNT, SO TO SPEAK? THAT HAS NOT BEEN, UH, DISTRIBUTED BY THE STATE OF TEXAS.
THAT'S THAT BALANCE RIGHT NOW.
IS IT $140 MILLION? IT IS EXPECTED AT THE END OF THE
AND THAT MONEY HAS BEEN USED TO DO WATER TO USE THOUGH.
UM, WE ARE, THEY ACTUALLY, BECAUSE TEXAS HAS A CONSTITUTION THAT REQUIRES A BALANCE BUDGET, THEY'RE USING THAT WITH OTHER DEDICATED ACCOUNTS TO BALANCE THE BUDGET.
SO INSTEAD OF THE MONEY COMING BACK TO THE 9 1 1, UH, SERVICES THAT IT SHOULD PROVIDE, THE STATE HAS BEEN USING IT TO BALANCE THEIR BUDGET.
UH, THIS BILL AND JIM, I'M GLAD YOU'RE HERE BECAUSE I'M SURE YOU HAVE, UH, HEARD THIS, UH, AS WELL.
UH, JIM ALLISON, HE IS THE ATTORNEY FOR THE, UH, COUNTY JUSTICES COMMISSION ASSOCIATION.
ONE COG THAT HAS BEEN ABLE TO APPROVE THIS SO FAR IS THAT THERE'S A YES SIR.
YES, THE CAPTAIN COG GOT SPECIAL LEGISLATION.
AND SO THIS WOULD THEN ALLOW THAT MONEY TO COME BACK TO OUR AREA, UH, TO HELP ENHANCE OUR NINE ONE ONE CALL SERVICES? YES, SIR.
BECAUSE BY STATUTE, BY HEALTH AND SAFETY CODE STATUTE 7 7 1, THE COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENTS IS ONLY ALLOWED TO PROVIDE SERVICE FROM THE TIME THE CALL IS MADE TO WHAT WOULD THEY SAID CALL DELIVERY, WHICH IS ACTUALLY WHEN IT RINGS AND IS PICKED UP AT A NINE ONE DISPATCH CENTER WITHIN THE COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENTS AREA.
HOW MANY, UH, NINE ONE ONE CALL CENTERS DO YOU SERVE THAT THE CALL SERVES? WE HAVE 44, AND THEN WE HAVE ONE MANAGED SERVICE BEING 45.
WE HAVE FOUR HERE IN, IN YOUR, IN YOUR COUNTY.
ARE, WHAT ARE YOU, UH, I KNOW ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE DISCUSSED IN THE COMMITTEE THAT I'M ON, UH, IS THE NEED TO COMBINE AS MANY OF THOSE PSAPS AND I TRY TO REMEMBER WHAT PSAP IS, PUBLIC SAFETY SERVICE, PUBLIC SAFETY ANSWERING POINTS.
AND I KNOW THERE IS A MOVEMENT ACROSS THE STATE AND I THINK ACROSS REGION, OUR REGION, THE COD REGION TO COMBINE THOSE.
IS THAT CORRECT? WHILE CONSOLIDATION IS NOT MANDATORY OR BEING FORCED, THE, THE COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENTS DOES SUPPORT ANY, UH, CONSOLIDATION EFFORTS THAT ARE GOING FORWARD BECAUSE WE, WE LOOK LIKE THAT IT SHOWS PHYSICAL RESPONSIBILITY BY COMBINING THOSE, UH, AGENCIES OR THOSE ENTRY POINTS.
WE HAVE FOUR, I BELIEVE THE, UH, CITY OF CAROL CITY, CITY OF GERALD, THE CITY OF WARNED, THE CITY OF KAUFFMAN, AND THE KAMAN COUNTY SHERIFF SHERIFFS.
COMMISSIONER, DO Y'ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? UH, UH, APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE THIS MORNING.
ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? HOW DOES THE MONEY FUNNEL BACK TO THE PSAPS? IS IT THROUGH A, UM, EQUAL PORTION TO ALL FEES? ACTUALLY, BECAUSE WE, IT IS COLLECTED, UM, AT THE STATE AND IT COMES BACK TO THE, TO THE COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENTS.
WE ACTUALLY BASICALLY PAY ALL THE BILLS.
AND WE DO, SINCE WE HAVE A REGIONAL PLAN, NO MATTER IF YOU ARE KAUFMAN COUNTY, COLLIN COUNTY, OR SOMERVILLE COUNTY, EVERYONE HAS THE SAME LEVEL OF SERVICE.
EVERYBODY HAS THE SAME EQUIPMENT, THEY HAVE THE SAME NETWORK, THEY HAVE THE SAME LEVEL OF SERVICE.
AND I'M VERY PROUD TO SAY THAT WE ARE NOT ONLY A LEADER IN THE STATE, BUT A LEADER IN THE NATION AS FAR AS NINE ONE TECHNOLOGY IS CONCERNED.
UM, IN 2013, WE ACTUALLY DEPLOYED, UH, TEXT TO 9 1 1, WHICH IS A SERVICE WHERE YOU CAN ACTUALLY SEND A 9 1 1 MESSAGE FROM YOUR, YOUR WIRELESS DEVICE TO NINE ONE.
WE STARTED OFF IN, UM, WISE COUNTY WITH VERIZON WIRELESS IN 2013.
WE WILL BE BRINGING IT TO KAMAN COUNTY WITHIN THE NEXT THREE OR FOUR WEEKS BECAUSE WE'RE, WE'RE WORKING ON THIS PROJECT.
WE ARE THE FIRST IN THE STATE AND THE FIFTH AND THE NATIONS TO DEPLOY THE SERVICE.
SO THAT WOULD BE WHERE IF SOMEBODY'S IN A SITUATION WHERE THEY CAN'T TALK, THEY COULD, UH, TEXT AND, UH, GET YES.
THAT YES, THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT THIS SERVICE WILL PROVIDE.
AND ACTUALLY, WHEN WE DEPLOY, UH, POCKMAN COUNTY, WE WILL DEPLOY WITH VERIZON WIRELESS AND T-MOBILE.
'CAUSE THEY'RE THE ONLY TWO OFFERING THE SERVICE TODAY.
THE OTHER TWO CARRIERS WILL BE COMING ON BOARD, BUT THEY'RE NOT OFFERING IT FOR US TODAY.
BUT THEY WILL BE WITHIN THE NEXT SIX, WITHIN THE NEXT SIX, EIGHT MONTHS.
SO YOU SAID THEY PAY ALL THE BILLS.
ARE YOU REFERRING TO THE DISPATCHER? NO, MA'AM.
WE BUY ALL THE SERVICES AND WE PAY FOR ALL THE SERVICES THERE AT THE COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENT'S OFFICE.
IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE DISPATCH SERVICES.
WE ACTUALLY PAY IT AND THEN SUPPLY ALL THE EQUIPMENT AND NETWORKING AND ALL THE SERVICES TO THE COUNTY REFERRING TO EQUIPMENT IN THE DISPATCH.
THEY FEED THE 9 1 1 ANSWERING EQUIPMENT? YES.
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IF YOU WALK INTO THE DISPATCH CENTER, YOU'LL SEE THEY'LL HAVE MULTIPLE SCREENS.AND BASICALLY OUR SYSTEM IS, UM, THEY'RE, THEY, THEY'RE THEIR TELEPHONE ENTRANCE, UH, SYSTEM, WHICH HAS, UM, A MAPPING SYSTEM AND WE'LL HAVE THE TEXT PRODUCT ON IT AS WELL.
WE ACTUALLY SUPPLY ALL THAT FOR THEM, BUT WE DON'T SUPPLY ANY, UH, CAD EQUIPMENT, ANY RADIO, ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
THE 50 CENT PER CALL FEE, UH, DESIGNATED FOR THE
UM, IS THAT, IS THAT 6 CENTS COME OUT OF THE 50 CENTS? NO, SIR.
THAT 6 CENTS ON TOP OF THE 56.
IT'S JUST IN TWO DIFFERENT LINE ITEMS. OKAY.
BUT IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT 6 CENTS GOES TO AREAS THAT ARE SPARSELY POPULATED.
THERE ARE, THERE ARE AREAS IN OUR STATE THAT IF THEY COLLECTED MONEY FOR 10, 20, 30 YEARS, THEY WOULD NEVER BE ABLE TO AFFORD 9 1 1 SERVICE BECAUSE THEY JUST DON'T HAVE POPULATION.
SO THAT'S WHAT THE, THE EQUALIZATION SURCHARGE WOULD FILL UP AND THEY HAVE MORE MAINTENANCE STATE? YES, IT WOULD.
AND, BUT AT ANY TIME, ANY NINE ONE ENTITY CAN REQUEST SURCHARGE MONEY.
I NOTICED THAT, UH, FOR SOME REASON ON THE, UH, ON THE YES SIR.
GRAPH BACK HERE THAT REVENUES GO DOWN, UH, IN 12, 12 AND 13 AND TO 14 AND 15, THEY GO DOWN FOR SOME REASON.
WHY IS THAT THE REVENUE? UM, ACTUALLY WE'VE ACTUALLY, THEY DID THAT FOR THE FIRST TIME IN 10 YEARS.
THEY'VE ACTUALLY DIPPED INTO THE FUND BALANCE BECAUSE 12 AND 13, WE TOOK A 25% CUT TO NINE ONE TO NINE ONE, UH, FUNDING BECAUSE OF THE STATE OF THE ECONOMY.
THE STATE ADMINIS, THE STATE, UH, EMERGENCY COMMUNICATION ON STATE EMERGENCY COMMUNICATIONS DEPART, UH, DIVISION CAME IN AND TOLD THE LEGISLATIVE, UH, APPROPRIATIONS FOR THE LVB THAT THEY SAID, THEY TOLD THEM, WE HAVE EQUIPMENT OUT THERE THAT'S ANYWHERE FROM 10 TO 15 YEARS OLD AND WE NEED TO REPLACE IT.
AND SO THEY, THEY ACTUALLY, UH, DIPPED INTO THE FUND BALANCE THIS TIME.
SO WE SO OTHER PLACES COULD ACTUALLY, UH, REPLACE THEIR EQUIPMENT.
SO, SO IN OTHER WORDS, IT WAS THE 9 1 1 PEOPLE DIPPED INTO THEIR OWN MONEY INSTEAD OF THE STATE INTO IT.
'CAUSE OUR NINE ONE SERVICE FEE CAN ONLY BE USED FOR 9 1 1 SERVICES.
THEY CANNOT USE IT FOR ANYTHING ELSE.
BUT THEY CAN USE THE FIGURES TO BOUNCE THE BUDGET, CORRECT? WELL, NOT, I GUESS THE VIEW OF THE PROGRAM WOULD BE IF WE, AND I'M IN FAVOR OF GORDON COLLECTING IT REASONABLY, I'LL SAY THAT THE MONEY WOULD BE STREAMLINED COMING TO THE REGION AS OPPOSED TO BEING HELD UP IN AUSTIN.
IT LOOKED LIKE 50 CENTS A CALL.
WE'RE NOT GETTING THE BIGGEST PART OF OUR MONEY BACK.
THAT'S A VERY CONSERVATIVE NUMBER.
THAT'S, I BET THAT WE'VE ACTUALLY PUT IN A PUBLIC, UH, INFORMATION REQUEST TO THE COMPTROLLER TO KIND TO SEE EXACTLY HOW MUCH WE OWE, HOW MUCH WE HAVE THERE, HOW MUCH WE'RE COLLECTING, AND WE'RE STILL WAITING ON THEM TO COME BACK TO US WITH THAT INFORMATION.
WHAT DO WE, I BELIEVE YOU INDICATED THERE'S ABOUT 140 OR $150 MILLION YES, SIR.
THAT IS SITTING IN THE STATE TREASURY THAT THEY'RE NOT SPENDING NO.
WHAT WILL HAPPEN TO THAT MONEY? WILL THAT MONEY BE DISTRIBUTED TO THE 9 1 1 DISTRICTS? UH, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THEY'RE, THAT THE TEXAS ASSOCIATION OF REGIONAL COUNCILS IS, UH, LOOKING AT IS KIND OF A CARROT FOR THE LEGISLATURES.
'CAUSE OUR EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR SAYS THEY'RE, THEY'RE THERE AT THE STATE TO KILL BILLS ON PASS BILLS.
AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS TELLING THEM THAT WE'RE WILLING TO LEAVE OUR FUND BALANCE BEHIND.
THAT'S NOT MADE, THAT'S JUST A, A SUGGESTION.
UM, I HAVE BEEN AT OTHER, UH, WE'VE BEEN AT OTHER COUNTY MEETINGS WHERE THEY ARE VERY, VERY, UM, ADAMANT THAT THEY DON'T WANT THAT LEFT BEHIND THERE.
BUT IT'S SOMETHING THAT THEY ARE CONSIDERING BECAUSE WE CAN ACTUALLY SURVIVE ON THE MONEY.
I NOT SURE, DON'T SAY A REASON FOR BELIEVE 40, $50 MILLION, BUT THAT'S NOT ALL OF OURS.
WE ARE ONLY A PERCENTAGE OF THAT.
A LITTLE TINY PERCENT OF IT'S STILL A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF MONEY.
AND, YOU KNOW, AT EVERY MEETING I GO TO, I TAKE BACK ALL QUESTIONS BECAUSE I'M TAKING THIS BACK TO OUR EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR AND TAKING BACK QUESTIONS, CONCERNS, THINGS THAT PEOPLE ARE VERY ADAMANT ABOUT.
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BEEN NOTE TAKING THIS WHOLE ENTIRE, UH, PROCESS AND WE'LL, UH, I WILL TAKE THAT BACK.I DON'T, I WILL TAKE THAT BACK TO THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTORS, BUT THAT Y'ALL ARE VERY ADAMANT THAT Y'ALL WANTED TO LOOK INTO TAKING A PART OF OUR OWN BALANCE WITH US.
DO YOU KNOW WHAT PORTION COFFEE COUNTY COMING THAT WHAT'S ED? I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THIS.
THAT'S THE REASON YOU'VE GOT THE REQUEST, RIGHT? BECAUSE EVERYTHING WE HAVE IS BASED ON REGIONWIDE, NOT INDIVIDUAL COUNTY OR CITYWIDE.
WOULD WE AS A COURT HAVE TO PASS THE RESOLUTION TO JOIN WITH Y'ALL ON THIS? WE WOULD COME BACK TO Y'ALL.
WE WOULD COME BACK AND ASK THAT Y'ALL, UH, THAT Y'ALL PASS ANOTHER RESOLUTION LIKE AS YOU DID BACK IN THE EARLY, LATE EIGHTIES, EARLY NINETIES.
BUT WE HAVE TO WAIT FOR LEGISLATION TO BE TAKEN.
HOW LONG ARE YOU, UM, THEY'RE, THEY'RE GOING, THEY'RE, THEY'RE WORKING ON DRAFT LEGISLATION RIGHT NOW.
UM, THEY'RE, THEY'RE LOOKING AT PUTTING, UM, PUTTING THE LEGISLATION, UH, AS SOON AS SPONSOR PROBABLY NOVEMBER BECAUSE OF THE LARGE TURNOVER WE'RE GONNA HAVE.
AND THEN IT WOULD GO TO THE NEXT SESSION.
SO WE WOULD KNOW SOMETHING BY JUNE 1ST, 2015 AND BECOME, IF THIS PASSES, WE WOULD BECOME A DISTRICT BY JUNE, SEPTEMBER 1ST, 2015.
SO THAT WOULD MEAN THAT EVERYBODY THAT'S ON THIS RADIO FREQUENCY WILL ALL BE TIED IN TOGETHER, RIGHT? NOT RADIO OR WHATEVER.
ABOUT HOW MANY OF THE CALLS THAT COME INTO 9 1 1 NOW, OR, UH, MOBILE CALLS, CELL PHONES REGION REGIONWIDE? WE'RE LOOKING AT 84%.
I KNOW THAT IN THE PAST I'VE DONE STATS AND I BREAK THINGS DOWN TO, UM, A COUNTY LEVEL AND WE DO BREAK 'EM DOWN TO THE CITY LEVEL.
I DON'T HAVE THE CITY CITIES OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, BUT I KNOW THAT KAUFMAN COUNTY IS ONE OF MY HIGHER, HIGHER, UH, WIRELESS CALL CENTERS OR COUNTIES.
AND Y'ALL ARE ABOUT BETWEEN 84 AND 90%, JUST DEPENDING ON WHAT TIME OF THE YEAR.
IT'S DOES THAT ALLOW THE DISPATCHERS TO SEE WHERE THAT UNIT IS? UM, WHAT IT, WHAT IT DOES IS WIRELESS PHASE TWO IS A SERVICE THAT THE, THAT WE, THAT WE USE AND IT GIVES ACCURACY WITHIN 300 METERS.
UM, 90% OF THE TIME THERE IS AN ACCURACY, UH, SCALE THAT THE, THAT THE WIRELESS PROVIDERS HAVE TO, UH, MANDATE THAT HAVE BEEN MANDATE BY THE SEC THAT THEY HAVE TO, TO ADHERE TO.
OTHER QUESTIONS FROM ANYBODY? THANK, IT'S A GREAT PRESENTATION AND, UH, THANK YOU.
KEEP US INFORMED I OF WHAT WE CAN DO TO, UH, IF YOU, IF YOU HAVE, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR ANYONE HAS ANY QUESTIONS, THEY'RE MORE THAN WELCOME TO CONTACT, CONTACT OUR OFFICE AT ANY TIME AND WE'LL, WE'LL BE HAPPY TO SHARE ANY INFORMATION THAT WITH THEM.
WELL, I AM ON THAT 9 1 1 COMMITTEE AND I'M PRETTY SURE THAT I THINK 50% OF THOSE FUNDS SHOULD COME TO COLTON COUNTY.
SO I, I'LL TAKE THAT BACK TO MS. OKAY.
ALRIGHT, UH, THE NEXT I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE ITEM NUMBER 14, UH, I'M SORRY, NUMBER, UH, 15 UP.
SINCE WE HAVE A, A LARGE NUMBER OF FIRST RESPONDERS HERE, AND I UNDERSTAND WE HAVE SOME BAD WEATHER DOWN IN THE SOUTH PART COUNTY A LITTLE EARLIER THIS MORNING.
UH, BUT, UH, JACK, IF YOU WOULD COME FORWARD, THIS DEALS WITH THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE PROPOSED NINE ONE ONE, UH, REGIONAL CALL CENTER THAT WOULD BE INSIDE THE ARMORY THAT WE NOW ARE.
UH, AS YOU'RE AWARE, WE HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH THE CONTRACTOR FOR SEVERAL MONTHS ON THE, UH, PROSPECT OF BUILDING A, UH, 9 1 1 CENTER, UH, SEVERAL TIMES.
THE ORIGINAL, UH, SCOPE WAS TO BUILD A BUILDING INSIDE A BUILDING THAT HAD A, HAD CONCRETE WALLS AND CEILINGS OF
UH, WE SAW THAT MANY BUDGET WISE WAS NOT GONNA ALLOW THAT.
SO WE BACK IN OUR DEN 1, 3 3 TO GO TO SHEET ROCK, UH, TYPE SITUATION, UH, GET AWAY FROM THE CONCRETE BUMPER ASPECT.
WHEN WE DID THAT, WE DIDN'T SEE THE SAVINGS THAT WE ANTICIPATED SEEING.
SO ABOUT A MONTH AGO, I ENGAGED THE, UH, CONTRACTOR THAT'S CURRENTLY WORKING ON THE ANNEX TO, AND WE GOT THAT BACK LAST WEEK AND THEY WERE APPROXIMATELY PROJECT THAT'S BEFORE ANY KIND OF VALUE TYPICAL BASED ON THAT, UH, TAKE A LOOK AT ALSO CHEAPER ON LOWER PRICE ON SOME OF THE AWARD PROPOSAL.
UH, BASED ON THAT, UH, WE'VE GOT A PRICE FROM, UH, ED A WILSON COMPANY, UH, 1 MILLION 147 6
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A ONE ONE CENTERUH, IT'S A JOB ORDER CONTRACT.
WE DON'T HAVE TO BID IT OUT ALL ALREADY BEEN PRE-BID.
UH, BASED ON THAT PASSED ALL PROCUREMENT LAWS, UH, SINCE WE DID SEE A SAVINGS BRING IN THE SECOND COMPANY.
I, I WOULD, UH, RECOMMEND WE GO FORWARD TO, UH, OR CONTRACT WITH A WILSON COMPANY BASE AMOUNT OF 1 MILLION 1 7 6.
I BELIEVE WE HAVE TWO PEOPLE THAT ARE SIGNED UP THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE.
UH, THE FIRST, UH, IS RONNIE DAVIS FROM THE, UH, UH, COMAN, UH, FIRE DEPARTMENT, RONNIE COME UP.
AND THEN WE HAVE MAYOR CAL RICHARDS, UH, FROM THE, UH, CITY OF CARROLL HERE AS WELL.
UH, AND SINCE I WANT THIS TO BE AN OPEN DISCUSSION WITH ANYONE THAT HAS COMMENTS, I'LL ALLOW OUT THE COMMENT SINCE THIS PART.
I'M REPRESENTING, UH, THE COUNTY FIRE CHIEF FIREFIGHTERS ASSOCIATION, NOT JUST THE CITY OF NOT, I'M NOT REPRESENTING THE CITY.
I'M REPRESENTING THE KAMAN COUNTY FIRE CHIEFS AND FIREFIGHTERS ASSOCIATION.
UH, CURTIS SNOW IS HERE, UH, PROBABLY WOULD SPEAK FOR THE CITY.
UH, BUT I HAVE TALKED TO THE FIRE CHIEF SENT OUT EMAILS ABOUT THIS AND CONSENSUS OF ALL CHIEFS WORK THAT WE WERE, WERE STRONGLY FAVOR OF GETTING THIS, UH, REGIONAL DISPATCH CENTER DONE.
AND WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE COMMISSIONERS, UH, PROCEED FORWARD WITH THAT BECAUSE, UH, THE INFRASTRUCTURE DEFINITELY NEEDS TO BE UPGRADED.
SO, UH, YOU KNOW, THE LONGER WE WAIT COURSE, THE MORE IT'S GONNA COST EVERYTHING.
IT'S JUST GONNA COST MY GRANDKIDS EVERYTHING DOWN THE ROAD.
SO I'D ASSUME GOING DO IT NOW AND BE DONE WITH IT AND GET THAT DONE.
SO THAT'S A UNANIMOUS, UH, YES.
SUPPORT FROM THE KAUFMAN COUNTY FIRE CHIEFS.
THANK YOU, UH, MAYOR RICHARDS, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO COME FORWARD AND THEN CURTIS, UH, FOR EQUAL TIME, I DUNNO IF YOUR MAYORS HERE OR NOT.
I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR FROM ANY OF THE OTHER CITIES AS WELL, AND ANYBODY FOR THAT MATTER.
I THINK THIS IS AN IMPORTANT DECISION.
IT AFFECTS PUBLIC SAFETY AND I'D LIKE TO ANYBODY THAT WISHES TO ADDRESS THIS MINUTE AT OUR TIME FOR THREE MINUTES.
AND UH, THANK YOU COMMISSIONS FOR HEARING ME, MS. WARNER.
MY NAME IS HOW RICHARDS, UM, MAYOR OF CHERYL, UH, ALSO HAD WITH ME THIS MORNING.
OUR CITY MANAGER, TORY EDWARDS AND POLICE CHIEF JODY LAY.
I'D LIKE FOR, UH, JODY LAY TO FOLLOW UP WITH MY COMMENTS SINCE IT'S HIS JOB TO KNOW THINGS AND IT'S NOT MY JOB TO KNOW ANYTHING, SO, UH, I'VE HEARD THAT BEFORE.
I KNOW THAT'S TRUE AND I'M DOING MY BEST TO HOLD EVERYBODY.
SO, STANDARD STANDARDS, UH, THE CITY OF TERRELL, UH, SUPPORTS THE CONCEPT OF REGIONAL DISPATCH CENTER, REGIONAL COMMUNICATION CENTER, AND I WANT CHIEF LAY TO EXPLAIN THAT IN A LITTLE MORE DETAIL.
UH, WE ARE, AS MANY OF YOU KNOW, BUILDING OR IN THE EARLY STAGES OF BUILDING A NEW POLICE FACILITY, THAT POLICE FACILITY IS GOING TO HAVE A COMMUNICATION CENTER IN IT.
UH, BUT IN SPITE OF THAT, CHIEF BLAKE CAN EXPLAIN, I THINK WHAT OUR THINKING IS ON THAT AND WHY IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO, UH, WHY IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US FOR REASONS THAT SOME OF YOU MAY NOT HAVE THOUGHT ABOUT, WHY IMPORTANT ROAD WOULD BE REGIONAL INSTEAD OF OPERATING AROUND THE SYSTEM OF CHIEF.
I APPRECIATE YOU GUYS FOR GIVING ME A MINUTE TO SPEAK WITH YOU.
AND BEFORE I START, I WANT TO TELL YOU I'M HERE AS A POLICE CHIEF.
I'M ALSO HERE AS A CA COUNTY RESIDENT.
MY FAMILY LIVES HERE, MY DAUGHTERS LIVE HERE, MY WIFE LIVES HERE.
MY GRANDKID LIVES HERE SOON, BE PLURAL, GRANDKIDS.
UH, BUT WE'RE GONNA, YOU KNOW, MY FAMILY DEPENDS ON THE, THE EFFICIENCY AND THE EFFECTIVENESS OF THE 9 1 1 CENTER, AND THAT'S WHAT THIS IS ABOUT.
UH, A LITTLE OVER THREE, THREE AND A HALF YEARS AGO WHEN WE FIRST STARTED DISCUSSING THIS, I BELIEVED IN THE PROCESS AND I BELIEVED IT WOULD IMPROVE PUBLIC SAFETY AND INCREASE EFFICIENCY AND EFFECTIVENESS IN OUR COUNTY.
TODAY WE'RE STILL DISCUSSING IT AND I STILL BELIEVE THE IDEA AND, AND I BELIEVE AND I SUPPORT IT.
UH, I DO THINK THAT THERE'S PROBABLY A WINDOW OF OPPORTUNITY, UH, WHERE WE CAN FULLY EMBRACE ALL OF THE BENEFITS THAT WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO EMBRACE IS PROBABLY CLOSING.
AND WE NEED TO KEEP THAT IN MIND.
UH, EVERY COMMUNITY IN COLTON COUNTY EITHER HAS BEEN JUGGLING THE COST OR WILL BE IN THE FUTURE, JUGGLING THE COST OF PROVIDING EMERGENCY COMMUNICATIONS, EXPENSIVE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT, UH, ALLOWS OUR PUBLIC SAFETY SYSTEM TO WORK FOR OUR CITIZENS.
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TO MOVE US CLOSER TO A REGIONAL COMMUNICATIONS CENTER ARE STEPS THAT I BELIEVE WILL BE THE, THE CRITICAL TO PREPARING OUR COUNTY FOR THE CHALLENGES THAT WE FACE IN THE FUTURE.COMMUNICATION CENTER REPRESENTS CENTRAL NERVOUS SYSTEM PUBLIC SAFETY SERVICES, RATHER THAN CREATING MULTIPLE SMALLER, LESS EFFICIENT SUBSYSTEMS IN EACH COMMUNITY WITH REDUNDANT INFRASTRUCTURE, REDUNDANT PERSONNEL, REDUNDANT POLICIES AND PRACTICES AND INHERENT INEFFICIENCIES THAT COME ALONG WITH OPERATING A SMALL SHOP.
THE REGIONAL SYSTEM CAN REDUCE THE COST OF INFRASTRUCTURE FOR ALL OF US.
THE REGIONAL SYSTEM CAN REDUCE PERSONNEL COSTS FOR ALL OF US.
THE REGIONAL SYSTEM CAN GREATLY INCREASE COMMAND AND CONTROL OF PUBLIC SAFETY RESOURCES TO HANDLE SOME OF THE PUBLIC SAFETY CHALLENGES THAT MY COMMUNITY HAS FACED THAT THIS COMMUNITY HAS FACED IN THE LAST YEAR CAN SIGNIFICANTLY CONTRIBUTE TO THAT.
ANOTHER BENEFIT IS THE REGIONAL SYSTEM CAN READ ALL.
MAY I INTERRUPT JUST FOR A SECOND? YEAH.
EXPLAIN THAT ABOUT SOME OF THE COMMUNICATION ISSUES.
WHEN WE HAD THE SITUATION WE HAD HERE IN COLTON, UNFORTUNATELY A FEW MONTHS LATER, YOU HAD THE, UH, FIVE MURDERS THAT OCCURRED IN TER TO BE A LITTLE SPECIFIC.
I'LL BE HAPPY TO, TO TOUCH ON THAT.
UH, I HAD FIVE POLICE OFFICERS ON DUTY.
THE FIRST CALL WE GOT, I HAPPEN TO BE STILL AT THE POLICE STATION, SO I'M A COP TOO, SO THAT MAY SIX.
SO WE GO OUT, WE'RE DEALING WITH THE FIRST HOMICIDE, THEN A SUSPICIOUS FIRE COMES IN, CLOSE PROXIMITY TO THAT.
THEN WE DISCOVER A SECOND HOMICIDE DEATH WHILE WE'RE GETTING OUR STUFF TOGETHER.
CALLED IN A COUPLE DEPUTIES FROM KSO TO HELP US MANAGE THOSE TWO SCENES.
AT THAT POINT, THEN IT GOT VERY DYNAMIC AND THINGS STARTED HAPPENING REALLY QUICK.
AND THEN WE STARTED LITERALLY HAVING SHOOTING INCIDENTS AND SUBSEQUENT HOMICIDES ALL OVER OUR CITY, HAPPENING TO US ALL AT ONCE.
WE GOT LIMITED RESOURCES, ALL OF US DO.
WE CALL ON OUR PARTNERS, BUT WE QUICKLY EXCEEDED THE CAPACITY OF THEIR RESOURCES.
WE CALLED ON THE STATE AND WE QUICKLY EXCEEDED THE CAPACITY OF THEIR RESOURCES.
WE EVEN HAD THE RANGERS THERE AND WE EXCEEDED THE CAPACITY OF THEIR RESOURCES.
WE ENDED UP CALLING, UH, FROM OTHER CITIES TO OUR WEST AND THEY SENT SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF RESOURCES TO OUR CITY AS WELL AS A COUPLE OF CITIES TO THE EAST.
AND ALL TOTAL BEFORE THE NIGHT WAS DONE, BEFORE THE BAD GUY WAS IN CUSTODY.
WE HAD SOME 75 TO 80 LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS FROM ALL OVER CREATION FOCUSING ON THIS PROBLEM.
AND WE, IT'S VERY IMPORTANT IN A SITUATION LIKE THAT THAT YOU HAVE COMMAND AND CONTROL OF ALL OF THOSE RESOURCES SO THAT YOU DON'T HAVE SOMEBODY THAT SHOULD BE DOING THIS.
AND ACTUALLY THEY'RE OVER HERE DOING THIS AND WE DON'T HAVE A WAY OF MANAGING THAT AND CONTROLLING THAT UNDER THAT KIND OF CIRCUMSTANCE.
SO THAT'S WHERE THE COMMUNICATION SYSTEM, IF WE'D HAVE HAD, IF WE'D HAVE JUST HAD WHAT WE HAVE NOW ON THAT NIGHT, IT WOULD'VE MADE A TREMENDOUS, TREMENDOUS DIFFERENCE IN COMMAND AND CONTROL OF THAT SITUATION.
THE INTELLIGENCE INFORMATION THAT COMES IN SUSPICIOUS PERSONS CALLS, IT ALL COMES INTO ONE UNIFIED CENTER.
IF YOU PROBABLY READ THE PAPER, WE HAD A CRIME OCCUR IN TERRIBLE AND THE BAD GUYS LEFT LEAVING OUR CITY, GOING WEST ON ABEL, THEY'RE GOING BACK TO DALLAS OR MOSQUITO, THEY'RE GONNA GO THROUGH 40.
IF, IF WE HAVE A CENTRALIZED SYSTEM AND THE COMMUNICATION CENTER HAS THAT INFORMATION AVAILABLE, ALL THOSE COPS ARE ALREADY AWARE THAT THESE BAD GUYS JUST HIT US IN, IN TERRELL AND WE'RE LAST SEEN GOING WEST ON LANE.
AND ODDS ARE THEY'RE GONNA PASS THROUGH FORNEY.
WE TRY TO WORK CLOSELY WITH FORNEY, BUT WE HAVE TO DO SO IN IN, IN SOMEWHAT OF A FRAGMENTED FASHION TO GET THAT DONE.
SOMETIMES WE'RE SUCCESSFUL, SOMETIMES WE'RE NOT.
BUT THE IDEA HERE IS ALL OF THIS INFORMATION'S COMING INTO ONE CENTRAL POINT.
ONE OF THE MOST SIGNIFICANT THINGS THAT I WANNA MENTION BEFORE MY TIME IS UP IS THE INFRASTRUCTURE.
THE, UH,
AND I THINK THAT WAS ABSOLUTELY THE SMARTEST THING THAT OUR COMMUNITY COULD DO FOR OUR COMMUNITY.
WE'RE ALSO BUILDING A, A, UH, COMMUNICATIONS CENTER IN THIS POLICE FACILITY.
THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT SUDDENLY THAT MEANS WE'RE NOT INTERESTED IN THE REGIONAL CONCEPT.
THERE'S STILL LOTS OF THINGS WE CAN GAIN BY THIS REGIONAL CONCEPT.
HOWEVER, IT'S ALSO SMART AND, AND WE'VE LEARNED THIS SINCE 9 1 1 OR SINCE NINE 11, YOU'VE GOT TO HAVE REDUNDANCY IN YOUR SYSTEMS. AND SO JUST BECAUSE WE HAVE A COMMUNICATION CENTER AND AN EMERGENCY OPERATIONS CENTER AND OUR NEW BUILDING IN TAR
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DOESN'T MEAN THAT WE STILL DON'T HAVE VALUE AND WE STILL DON'T HAVE OPTIONS AND POSSIBILITIES AND ADVANTAGES TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF IN A REGIONAL COMMUNICATION CENTER.IT JUST BETTER PREPARES US TO PROVIDE SAFETY SERVICES FOR OUR CITIZENS IN OUR TOWN.
AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE CHARGED WITH THE RESPONSIBILITY OF DOING THESE RADIO SYSTEMS. THE BOUGHT AND THE TERRA, THESE ARE VERY ROBUST SYSTEMS. I CAN GET IN MY POLICE CAR AND I CAN DRIVE ALL OVER THIS 700 SQUARE MILE COUNTY.
I THINK THAT'S ACCURATE AND I CAN TALK BACK TO TERRA.
WE CAN TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THAT IN A REGIONAL SITUATION.
PIGGYBACK OFF THAT, THAT SERIOUS INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WE PUT IN PLACE AND USE IT TO THE ADVANTAGE OF EVERYONE HAVE AN OFFSET AND THE SAVINGS AND PERSONNEL COSTS AND, AND ALL THE HEADACHES THAT GO WITH THAT.
AND YOU KNOW, I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.
I KNOW I'VE ABUSED MY TIME PRIVILEGE HERE, BUT UH, I DO THINK THIS IS AN ADVANTAGEOUS THING AND I ENCOURAGE YOU GUYS TO CONSIDER IT.
UH, RONNIE, ARE YOU STILL HERE? MR. DAVIS? STILL AROUND? YES.
UH, I MEANT TO ASK YOU WHY YOU WERE HERE MOMENTS AGO.
IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING AND THE SHERIFF IS HERE AS WELL.
IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THERE ARE CERTAIN AREAS OF OUR COUNTY WHERE WE CANNOT COMMUNICATE WITH VOLUNTEER FIREFIGHTERS AND, UH, THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT CANNOT COMMUNICATE.
IS THAT A TRUE STATEMENT? YES SIR.
SHERIFF, IS THAT A TRUE STATEMENT? YES.
MAP SPRINGS AREA IS OUR MOST, UH, PREVALENT.
AND THOSE ARE LIKE DEAD AREAS BECAUSE WE JUST DON'T BREACH.
WE HAVE PROBLEMS. UH, MAINLY WHAT WE HAVE TO DO UP THERE IS A LOT OF TIMES GO TO THE FIRE COUNT IS OUR BACKUP.
UH, THAT'S NOT DESIGNED FOR THAT.
UH, WE IN THE PAST WE UP REMEDY THAT.
IT'S JUST VERY DIFFICULT AND THERE'S, THERE'S OTHER PLACES, BUT YOU GET ON COMBAT.
WE HAVE PROBLEM OVER THERE, ESPECIALLY ON THE COUNTY LINE.
UH, JUST AREAS THAT, UH, OUR CURRENT SYSTEM WILL NOT SERVICE THE FRINGE AREAS, UH, PRETTY WELL.
GOT IT COVERED BACK NORTH NOW, BUT SPRING LIKE AND MOTHER MAYBANK AREA, EGYPT COMMUNITY BACK DOWN THAT PART OF THE COUNTY AND OVER INTO THE AREA.
I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT.
ARE THERE OTHER PEOPLE THAT WOULD LIKE TO, UH, ADDRESS THE COURT AT THIS TIME BEFORE WE, UH, BEGIN DISCUSSIONS? AND I THINK I HEAR RAIN OUTSIDE.
MAY TURN THAT MICROPHONE UP SO WE CAN HEAR YOU LITTLE BIT.
I JUST WANTED TO, TO SHARE WITH YOU.
IN 2005 WE HAD A CONVERSATION WITH, UH, CHIEF SMITH AT THAT TIME AND ASKED HIM TO APPROACH THE SHERIFF ABOUT BUILDING JOINT DISPATCHING CENTER.
UH, AND SINCE THAT TIME HERE WE'RE IN 2013, 2014 AND THROUGH CHIEF UM, JUDGE WOODS LEADERSHIP, WE'VE DONE A STUDY OF THE PREMISE FOR EVERYBODY.
COUNTY COUNTY'S A GROWTH MODE.
IT WOULDN'T TAKE MUCH FOR THE CITY.
KAMAN DOUBLE COST IN DISPATCH.
THAT'S JUST GOING FROM ONE SHARE TO TWO SHARES.
UM, EACH OF THE OTHER CITIES HAVE THE SAME THING.
PRETTY SOON THEY START HAVING SHARE DISPATCH CENTER.
THERE ARE ALREADY PERIODICALLY S 24 7 OPERATION.
IT CAN GROW DRASTICALLY REALLY FAST.
UH, BY ALL JOINING TOGETHER, WE ALL DON'T HAVE TO ADD SHARES, WE JUST GOTTA FIGURE OUT FOR CALLS FOR SERVICES.
THE STUDY POINTED OUT THAT IT CAN BE DONE, UH, THAT IT COSTS TO SEE A KA LIST COST, UH, KA COUNTY LIST AND COST EVERY JURISDICTION LIST.
SO I HOPE THAT YOU'RE MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS.
LIKE I SAID, THOUSAND FIVE TO IT'S GREAT TO SEE THAT YOU'RE FINAL REPORT.
MR. ARE THERE OTHERS THAT WISH TO ADDRESS THE COURT AT THIS TIME? I'LL GIVE ANYBODY THE OPPORTUNITY THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO COME FORWARD AND, UH, DISCUSS YOUR CONCERNS OR SUPPORT.
WELL, JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS, UH, TORY EDWARDS, CITY MAN IN THE CITY OF TERRELL, I WOULD LIKE TO SHARE
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WITH YOU THAT, UH, THIS IS A LIFE SAVING, UH, MORE EFFICIENT WAY OF COMMUNICATION, UH, IN TERMS OF REGIONAL 9 1 1 SYSTEM.AND AS COG MENTIONED, THIS IS DOABLE, UH, THROUGH THE COUNTY AND ALSO CITIES BANNING TOGETHER TO SUPPORT THIS THAT WILL MAKE IT WORK.
WHAT IS THE DOCUMENT? THE BIND US ALL TOGETHER? THAT'S THE, UH, INTERLOCAL AGREEMENTS.
THAT'S THE DETAILED DOCUMENT THAT'LL GO BEFORE BACK TO YOU.
WE'LL GO TO THE SCARY CITIES THAT BINS TOGETHER THE BUDGET PROCESS FOR EACH CITY AND FOR YOU.
UH, BUT THAT'S THE DETAILED DOCUMENT THAT THROUGH YOUR LEADERSHIP WILL HOPEFULLY PULL ALL THE CITIES TOGETHER.
YOU KNOW, DISCUSSION POINTS AS CITY MANAGER OF, UH, KAUFMAN HAS MENTIONED ABOUT THE NEED TO ADD MORE DISPATCHERS, UH, THROUGH THIS METHOD, HOPEFULLY THERE WILL NOT BE A NEED TO ADD FUTURE DISPATCHERS OVER TIME BECAUSE YOU HAVE THAT ONE CENTRAL LOCATION.
WE HOPEFULLY, AND WE'LL PROVE THAT OUT IN THE INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT PROCESS THAT IS TRULY COST CONTAINING.
YOU'RE NOT DECREASING COSTS BY HAVING ALL THESE DISCONNECTED COMMUNICATION POINTS.
SO AGAIN, THE GOVERNANCE PIECE I LIKE TO REALLY, UH, CHALLENGE YOU TO THINK ABOUT THAT.
UH, I KNOW THE SHERIFF HAS CIRCULATED THAT, THAT DOCUMENT, UH, TO US AND THE CITY.
AND SO NOW IT'S TIME TO AGAIN, TO START THAT PROCESS OF WHAT WILL IT ULTIMATELY COST AND WHO'S RESPONSIBLE FOR PAYING WHAT.
OTHER COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC JUDGE? I APPRECIATE IT.
UM, DEAN WINTERS IN THE CHIEF POLICING CRANDALL AND I WANTED TO, UH, TO BRING OUR MAYOR CODY FRAZIER THAT, UH, CRANDALL'S IN SUPPORT OF THIS AS WELL.
AND WE'RE OUTSIDE ON THE FRINGE, UM, IN COMMUNICATIONS IN FACT MY OFFICERS AND MOST TIMES WE CAN'T EVEN USE OUR PORTABLE RADIOS.
UM, SO THE IMPROVEMENT IN THIS SYSTEM IS GONNA MAKE THE WEST PART OF THE COUNTY A LOT SAFER.
AND BEING ABLE TO COMMUNICATE WITH THE OTHER AGENCIES TIED IN WHAT CHIEF LAY SAID.
UH, IN THE INCIDENT TOO, WHEN WE LOST MARK CASSIE, IF WE'D BEEN IN A REGIONAL SITUATION, THEN WITH KAUFMAN WE MIGHT HAVE BEEN ABLE TO GET THAT COMMUNICATION TO US ON D DESCRIPTION, THINGS LIKE THAT.
WHEN THIS CAME TO US, IT ACTUALLY WENT FROM PHONE TO THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT TO THAT DELAY WAS HUGE.
EVEN IF IT'S FIVE OR 10 MINUTES, WE WOULD'VE BEEN DOWN TO, YOU KNOW, A FRACTION OF THAT TIME.
WE ACTUALLY SENT UNITS MYSELF PERSONALLY, WE CAME HERE IN ODDS.
WORD WE PASSED THAT VEHICLE TOWARDS SEAL WOULD'VE BEEN A REGIONAL SITUATION.
WE MAY HAVE BEEN ABLE TO STOP THAT.
ANYWAYS, OTHER COMMENTS BEFORE WE, UH, MOVE THEIR COMMENTS? OH, GOD'S NOT MAD.
ANYONE ELSE WISH TO ADDRESS THE COURT ON THIS PARTICULAR ITEM? OKAY, COMMISSIONERS, I'VE DONE TO YOUR DISCUSSION NOW I'VE GOT A, UH, COUPLE QUESTIONS.
EVERYBODY'S REFERRING TO THIS SYSTEM AND THE SYSTEM AND THE BUILDING, IN MY OPINION OR IN MY LINE OF THOUGHT IS TWO DIFFERENT OBJECTS.
AND, AND THE QUESTION, I GUESS THE IT AND THE SHERIFF IS, WILL THE ASSIST ME GO IN THE JAIL FOR OUR DISPATCH SYSTEM? GEORGE WILL THE NEW 9 1 1 SYSTEM THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, CAN IT BE PUT IN THE JAIL WITH PRESENT DISPATCH? IS THERE A ROOM OR WELL, IS IT LARGER OR SMALLER OR PLANS? THERE'S TWO REALLY TWO ISSUES.
THE PLANS FOR AYA DISPATCH CENTER ARE FOR EIGHT POSITIONS.
WE DON'T HAVE ROOM GREAT POSITIONS.
AND WE, OUR TEAM WENT AROUND FOR OVER A YEAR AND REACHED OUT TO CONSULTANTS.
UH, WE TRAVELED TO DESOTO, WE LOOKED AT SMITH COUNTY OVER TYLER AND WE RECOGNIZED WAS REALLY TWO ISSUES.
ONE IS NOT GONNA BRING TO THE OTHER WAS 10 YEARS AGO WHEN THEY BUILT OUR FACILITY, A FUNDAMENTAL FLAW WAS THERE'S NOT CONDITIONED UPS POWER TO MANAGE THE FACILITY AS IT WAS ACCEPTED PRACTICE IN THE INDUSTRY.
NORMALLY WHEN YOU BUILD A NEW FACILITY, UM, THERE'S A BAG OF BATTERY SYSTEMS THAT CONDITIONS THE POWER FOR THE EOC FOR THE DISPATCH FLOOR.
EVERYTHING THAT DOESN'T EXIST AT THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE TODAY.
ALL WE HAVE THERE NOW ARE THE SMALL UPSS THAT SIT ON THE FLOOR EVERYWHERE.
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UH, BASICALLY, YOU KNOW, I COULD GO ON IN A LOT OF DETAIL, BUT TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, THERE'S NOT ROOM.HOW MANY DISPATCH COURT SEATS DO YOU HAVE FOR, IS THERE NOT ROOM TO EXPAND TO EIGHT? NO, THAT COME OVER AND LOOK AT OUR DISPATCH SETTING.
WE HAVE A LITTLE ROOM WHERE THEY ARE.
WE JUST PHYSICALLY DON'T HAVE THE ROOM TO PLACE.
UH, AND, AND THIS I'VE HEARD MENTIONED BEFORE ABOUT A DEADLINE FOR A NEW RADIO FREQUENCY.
IS THAT PASSED OR IS IT COMING UP? I DON'T THINK THAT WOULD BE AN ISSUE WITH THIS.
SO WE'RE DISCUSSING COMBINING OUR RESOURCES INTO A COMBINED DISPATCH CENTER.
IS THERE A ANY TIMING WITH REGARD TO FREQUENCY? AND KATHY CAN PROBABLY SPEAK TO THAT AS WELL.
STEVE, IS THERE ANY KIND OF A DEADLINE WE'RE LOOKING AT THAT WE NEED TO ACCELERATE OR FIT WITHIN A CERTAIN WINDOW TO, I DON'T THINK THERE IS, BUT, BUT I THINK COMMISSIONER, WHAT YOU'RE THINKING, THE 13TH, WE HAD TO GO TO NARROW BAND.
THERE IS A, UH, SOMEWHERE IN THE FUTURE A SUPPOSEDLY A, A FEDERAL MANDATE THAT WE WERE GOING TO HAVE TO GO DIGITAL.
BUT THAT'S, YOU KNOW, OVER THE HORIZON SOMEWHERE.
WE, WE DID THAT AND WE WERE ABLE TO MAINTAIN OUR, UH, EFFICIENCY OR, OR OUR COVERAGE BECAUSE WE WERE LUCKY ENOUGH TO GET THAT 430 FOOT TOWER OUT THERE THAT HE LEFT IT PUT UP.
SO WE SAVED UP A LOT OF MONEY BY THAT GOING UP THERE.
BUT WE'RE, WE ARE RIGHT NOW ARE IN WHERE WE'RE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE FEDERAL REGULATION.
THAT WAS MY QUESTION BECAUSE I KNOW LAST YEAR THAT WAS A CONCERN.
SO WE'RE IN COMPLIANCE AND WILL BE FOR THE FORESEEN FUTURE ON FREQUENCY AS FAR AS THE SYSTEM.
AND UH, I GUESS MY OTHER QUESTION IS THE DOCUMENT THAT MR. ED EDWARDS WAS DE REFERRING TO, DO WE HAVE ANY KIND OF, UM, INPUT FROM THE CITIES AS FAR AS HOW MUCH THEY'RE GOING TO PAY, UH, OR ANY COMMITMENT OR FINANCIAL ESTIMATES OF WHAT THE CITY WILL RECEIVE FOR IF WE PUT DISPATCH SERVICES? WE WE'RE WORKING ON THAT DOCUMENT, IT'S KIND OF FORMS, STAGES RIGHT NOW, UH, AND WE'RE GETTING DATA TOGETHER ON, ON WHAT THE PROJECTED COST WOULD BE.
DO YOU, DO YOU THINK THE COST WOULD COVER THE INCREASED COST TO THE, TO THE COUNTY FOR BUILDING A NEW FACILITY? OR NOT A NEW FACILITY, BUT REMODELING THE CURRENT FACILITY? THE CITY WILL, I'LL ASSUME THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DECIDE HOW WE'RE GOING TO FINANCE IT, WHAT IT'S GONNA BE BASED ON.
AND UH, IT, IT APPEARS TO ME THAT THE MOST, UH, ECONOMICAL AND FAIR WAY IS BY POPULATION.
SO THE, THE COST OF THE OPERATION FACILITY WILL BE, UH, SET UP, UH, I BELIEVE BY WHATEVER PERCENTAGE, YOU KNOW, OF THE POPULATION ENTITY HAVE, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE CREATE COSTS.
COULD I ADD COMMISSIONER THAT THE CITIES HAVE BEEN KEPT APPRISED AS, AS THE PLAN DEVELOP AND WE WERE ALSO ASKING FOR INPUT ON THE, FOR THAT THEY USED TO CALCULATE DISTRIBUTION OF COSTS.
AND I THINK WE ALL AGREED A FAIR WAY ON HOW THOSE COSTS WERE GOING TO BE DISTRIBUTED.
AND AS I REMEMBER, UH, THE NUMBERS LOOKED GOOD FOR BOTH UFTON, KATON, COUNTY, ALL, EVERYONE BECAUSE OF THE SHARING OF THOSE COSTS.
SO YEAH, THERE IS ALREADY IN, IN A BLENDING DRAFT.
THERE'S A METHOD FOR CHARGING COSTS FOR THIS.
WELL, I HAVEN'T SEEN ANY DRAFT, ANY, IT'S ON ONGOING.
WE DIDN'T WANT MOVE FORWARD ON THAT UNTIL WE STARTED THE BUILDING AND THE BUILDING'S GONNA PROBABLY TAKE US, I DUNNO, FOUR, FIVE OR SIX MONTHS TO COMPLETE.
SO ALL OF THIS WORK WILL BE GOING ON.
AND COMMISSIONER, YOU CERTAINLY ARE WELCOME TO SIT IN ON ANY OF THOSE DISCUSSIONS.
THERE WILL BE A COMMITTEE MADE UP OF ALL THE COMMUNITY THAT YOU CERTAINLY WILL BE.
NOBODY'S TRYING TO SNEAK ANYTHING THROUGH.
I MEAN, IT'S GOING TO BE VERY TRANSPARENT.
THE OTHER THING I'D LIKE TO POINT OUT IS, IS THE FACT THAT WE HAVE SEVERAL COMMUNITIES IN OUR COUNTY THAT THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT HAS, UH, HISTORICALLY DISPATCHED AT NO COST.
AND THAT IS SOMETHING THAT HAS TO BE LOOKED AT BECAUSE THE OTHER COMMUNITIES ARE OPERATING THEIR DISPATCH CENTERS AND THEY'RE PAYING FOR IT PRIMARILY CAROL CORN AND COST.
AND SO WE ALREADY ARE DISPATCHING FOR EVERYBODY EXCEPT CAROL CORN AND COST.
SO NOW THEY WILL BE A PART OF THE GOVERNING BOARD AND WILL BE HELPING MAKE THE DECISIONS ON THE OPERATION OF THIS.
WELL, I GUESS WE DON'T HAVE ANYONE TO APPOINTED TO REPRESENTATIVE.
NO, I DIDN'T ASK THEM BECAUSE THEY ARE,
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THEY HAVE ALREADY SPENT, THEY BUILT A, YOU UH, COMMISSIONER.YOU CAN HAVE, UH, FIRE MARSHAL CALLED ME.
HE'S A HUNDRED PERCENT SUPPORT OF THIS.
THEY, THAT'S THEIR CITY COUNCIL DECISION.
I I DUNNO THAT, I THINK ONE REASON WHY THEY HAVE NOT BEEN INVOLVED THIS, THAT IS THEY KIND LIKE, THEY SPEND A LOT OF MONEY GETTING TO A POINT AND THEY'RE VERY HIGHLY INTERESTED WHAT THE CITY MANAGER ALSO JOIN IN WITH THIS.
AS OF RIGHT NOW, THEY'VE GOT EVERYTHING HANDLED UP THERE, BUT WE USE IT A BACKUP AS WE USE IT.
UH, LIKE CAROL, THAT'S HOW WE WENT FROM BEING A ESSENTIAL FACILITY TO AN NON ESSENTIAL FACILITY, WHICH CUT OFF WHAT THAT HALF MILLION DOLLARS IN CONSTRUCTION COSTS.
MY CONCERN IS THAT WE BUILD THIS FACILITY WITH NO COMMITMENTS FROM OR POSSIBLY NOT TERRIBLE.
IS TER I GOING TO PARTICIPATE? Y YES SIR.
TER IS VERY MUCH SUPPORTIVE OF THIS CONCEPT.
IS KAUFMAN GOING TO PARTICIPATE? YES.
FINANCIALLY WE'RE GONNA SUPPORT OR WE'VE NEVER INCLUDED THEM IN BECAUSE THEY INDICATED, JUST LIKE THE COMMISSIONER SAID, THEY HAD JUST SPENT SEVERAL MILLION DOLLARS ON A NEW POLICE FACILITY AS WELL AS RADIO EQUIPMENT.
I THINK THEY'VE RECENTLY UPGRADED THEIR EQUIPMENT EVEN BEYOND WHAT THE STATE WIRED, BUT UH, THE CORNING CALCULATION WAS NEVER IN THERE FROM THE VERY GET GO.
THEY'RE INTERESTED IN JOINING IN THE FUTURE BECAUSE THIS STUFF IS GOING TO EVOLVE AS YOU GO ALONG.
GEORGE, I'M SURE WHEN THE TECHNOLOGY CHANGES, JUST IF EVERYBODY BUYING A NEW, A NEW $3 MILLION SYSTEM, MAYBE THERE'S THIS ONE 3 MILLION SYSTEM THAT BOUGHT FOR THE COUNTY AND EVERYBODY PARTICIPATES IN THAT IN THE FUTURE.
AS OF TODAY, THEY DON'T REALLY SEE A NEED FOR EXCEPT FOR A BACKUP FOR US AND ALL.
THESE ARE GOOD QUESTIONS, DON'T MISUNDERSTAND.
I MEAN, WE NEED TO, I'M CONCERNED AND, AND I'VE GOT ALL THE PLANS HERE, THE DOCUMENTS AND ADDENDUMS, THE UPDATES, AND I JUST KIND OF REVIEWED THEM QUICKLY THIS WEEKEND AND ABOUT A THIRD OF THAT BUILDING IS NOT GONNA BE COMPLETED.
THAT WILL BE THE EMERGENCY OPERATIONS CENTER AND THE LEASE, WE DIDN'T, IT'S GOING TO BE FRAMED OUT, SO TO SPEAK.
UH, BUT WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO DO AS MUCH OF THAT WORK OURSELVES.
UH, THAT'LL BE WHERE THE, IF WE HAVE A MASS, UH, CATASTROPHE, THAT'LL BE WHERE PEOPLE WILL GATHER TO, UH, WORK ON WHEREVER THE CATASTROPHE IS.
THAT'S NOT IN THERE, BUT IT'S FRAMED OUT TO BE COMPLETED.
IT'LL PRIMARILY BE, UH, DRYWALL.
WE THOUGHT THAT WOULD SAVE MONEY BY DOING THAT.
RIGHT? WELL, I I'M, I'M CLEAR ON THE FACT THAT WE HAVE THE FUND IN THE BUDGET AND WE'LL STAY BARELY UNDER THAT FUND.
BUT IF WE'RE GONNA TRY TO COMPLETE THE BUILDING AND WE HAVE NO FUNDS ALLOCATED FOR THAT, BUDGET DOESN'T HAVE TO BE IN THE FUTURE.
THAT'S YOUR CREDIT, YOU KNOW? YES.
NOR DO WE HAVE FUNDS FOR THE EQUIPMENT.
WHETHER YOU PUT THE EQUIPMENT IN THIS BUILDING OR YOU PUT IT TO SHERIFF'S JAIL OR THE DISPATCHING FROM NOW, THE PROBLEMS THEY ARE, UH, RELATED TO AS FAR AS EXTENDING TO THE PERIMETER OF THE COUNTY.
I'M NOT CLEAR HOW THIS BUILDING WILL EXTEND THE RADIO SIGNALS TO THE PREMIUM OF THE COUNTY IF, IF THE EQUIPMENT, UH, TO DO THAT IS DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WE HAVE.
MY QUESTION WAS COULD THE EQUIPMENT BE PUT IN JAIL WHERE, PRESENT IN DISPATCH.
I DON'T, I DON'T SEE HOW A MILLION DOLLARS BUILDING IS GONNA EXTEND REGULAR SIGNALS TO THE PERIMETER.
WELL, THE EQUIPMENT WE HAVE AT THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT AND THE GUYS, PLEASE JUMP IN.
HERE'S MY UNDERSTANDING IS WHAT, 10 OR 12 YEARS OLD NOW, IT'S AT THE END OF LIFE.
TOM, THAT'S ONE OF YOUR, THE, UH, AND GEORGE AND FRED.
SO WE, 10 YEARS AGO, WE BUILT THE BUILDING.
WE ENGAGED SEVERAL VENDORS AND THE ONE THAT ONE OUT WAS A COMPANY CALLED ORBIT.
WELL, THE REALITY IS, OVER 10 YEARS, THE COMPANY WAS NO LONGER.
SO WHEN EQUIPMENT FAILS, WE HAVE TO HAVE IT MANUFACTURED.
THEY'RE NOT SPARE AND TAKE IT OFF THE SHELF AND GET IT BACK RUNNING AGAIN.
SO WHEN WE HAVE A FAILURE, WHEN IT COMES DOWN, IT'S A SERIOUS BUSINESS.
AND, AND BACK TO THE OTHER ISSUE 10 YEARS AGO, THEY NEVER BUILT A UPS BATTERY SYSTEM FOR THE DISPATCH CENTER, WHICH WE HAVE PLANNED IN THIS BUILDING.
AND THAT SYSTEM CANNOT BE INSTALLED IN PRESENT DISPATCH CENTER.
UM, SO THE WAY THAT WORKS IS IF YOU LOOK AT YOUR DRAWING IN THE BACK WHERE THE ELECTRICAL CLOSET IS, THERE'S A ROOM IN THAT ROOM IS JUST A BANK OF BATTERY SYSTEMS THAT KEEPS EVERYTHING UP AND ACTIVE.
IN CASE OF POWER FAILURE TODAY IN OUR SHERIFF'S OFFICE, IT DOESN'T EXIST.
WE JUST HAVE THESE LITTLE UPSS UNDER EVERY DESK.
YOU KNOW, THE ARCHITECT YOU HAVE TO THROW, THROW THE UNDER THE BUS.
BUT THEY DID THE DESIGN AND THAT PIECE WAS MISSING FROM THE DESIGN.
SO ALL THESE YEARS WE'VE HAD TO DEAL WITH SMALL UPSS ON EACH RACK AND ON EACH EACH DISPATCH ENGINE,
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THE NEW FACILITY BE DONE RIGHT WAY.IT SHOULD BE WITH A ROOM WITH A BANK OF BATTERIES.
JUST LIKE IF YOU DE SOTO OR IF YOU'VE BEEN TO TYLER SMITH COUNTY GOOD DISPATCH CENTER, YOU'LL SEE, I'M SURE YOUR DESIGN, WHEN YOU BUILD YOURS, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE A BANK OF BATTERIES POWERING THAT WHOLE OPERATION DOESN'T EXIST AT SHERIFF'S OFFICE.
AND ALSO FOR THE EOC TO HAVE THAT, I GUESS MY QUESTION WAS CAN THAT BE INSTALLED IN THE PRESENT? UM, BOY, THE PROBLEM IS THE CABLING, THE POWER AND ALL THOSE RELY ON THAT AS IS THE BASE POINT.
IT WOULD, IT WOULD BE, UM, FIRST WE'D HAVE TO FIND A ROOM TO PUT THE EQUIPMENT AND THEN WE'D HAVE TO REWIRE PERSPECTIVE.
I MEAN, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO PURCHASE IT, WHETHER WE PUT IT IN THE SUITE BUILDING.
OR IF WE PUT IT IN ATION, SINCE THE BUILDING IS ALREADY BUILT, I I REALLY DON'T SEE HOW WE COULD RETROFIT.
WE, IF WE'RE GOING GO TO THE ORIGINAL COMMUNICATION, WE DON'T HAVE ROOM FOR THAT AURORA NOW.
WE DON'T HAVE A PHYSICAL SPACE FOR IT BECAUSE WE'RE GONNA HAVE OTHER DISPATCHERS FROM OTHER ENTITIES IN THERE, YOU KNOW, GONNA BE, UH, WE'RE GONNA BE PICKING UP, UH, ADDITIONAL PEOPLE TO HANDLE THESE ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC AS WE GROW AS A COUNTY.
UH, THAT WOULD ALSO PRESENT A PROBLEM AS FAR AS BEING ABLE TO EXPAND IT FROM FOUR SEATS TO FIVE SEATS OR SIX SEATS.
IS THAT A CORRECT STATEMENT? SO WE'RE BUILDING, IF WE DECIDE TO DO THIS, WE WOULD BUILD THE CENTER WHERE IT CAN BE EXPANDED, I BELIEVE TO EIGHT SEATS.
THAT, THAT'S THE CONSULTANT, I BELIEVE.
AND, UH, PROJECTED OUT FOR 20, 25 YEARS, WHATEVER IT'S, I'VE, I HAVEN'T LOOKED AT THAT, UH, PROJECTION IN A WHILE.
BUT AS FAR AS, I THINK WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TWO DIFFERENT THINGS.
SHOULD THE PHYSICAL BUILDING AND THEN, AND THE EQUIPMENT AND THE EQUIPMENT IS GOING TO HAVE TO REPLACE WHERE WE'RE EVENTUALLY, IT'S NOT GONNA CONTINUE WORK IN THE, YOU LITERALLY LIKE THAT TERM.
BUT, UH, THAT'S TOM'S FAVORITE TERM.
I DON'T LIKE IT TOO MUCH AT MY AGE.
THE OTHER THINGS THAT ARE NOT IN OUR BUDGET IS, IS THE FURNITURE, THE, AND UH, THIS DOESN'T INCLUDE THE WIRING FOR THE SYSTEM, DOES IT? JUST THE CONDUIT.
SO IN THE PROCESS OF DOING OUR RESEARCH, WE GOT A TEAM TOGETHER WHEN WE LOOK AT SEVERAL FACILITIES AND WE RECEIVE BUDGETARY FIGURES, UH, FROM THE DIFFERENT VENDORS.
AND I THINK THE JUDGE CAN SPEAK TO HIS, HIS DECISION ON THAT.
BUT YES, WE HAVE BUDGETARY FIGURES BASICALLY IN THE PRIMARY AREA OF FIXTURES, FURNITURE, EQUIPMENT, THE WIRING, THE BACKROOM EQUIPMENT.
BASICALLY WHAT WE'RE DOING THERE IS FROM THE DISPATCH CONSOLE TEAM AND MIKE TO THE, OR THROUGH THE DISPATCH SYSTEM, TO THE BACK ROOM, TO THE NEW TOWER WE'LL HAVE THERE, WHICH WILL BASICALLY KEEP THE TAR TOWER,
THAT'S PRETTY MUCH WHAT THE EQUIPMENT PART.
WE HAVE A COST ESTIMATE ON THE NEW TOWER AND ALL EQUIPMENT.
SO WE, WE RECEIVE QUITE A LOT.
WE, UH, THE BUDGETARY FIGURES, FIGURES TO BE ABOUT 600,000.
SO IT IS 1.1 MILLION IS JUST, UH, ADJUSTABILITY SMALL PORTION.
IT COULD POTENTIALLY WIND UP BEING WHAT, TWO, TWO OVER 2 MILLION THE CLOSER I WE RECEIVED.
AND WE'VE TURNED IN THERE ABOUT 600,000 AND OUR, IN THAT REGARD, WHICH IS A GOOD QUESTION.
OUR PLANS ARE TO APPLY FOR ANY GRANT THAT WE MAY BE ABLE TO, UH, FIND.
UH, I WAS JUST THINKING WHILE AGO, JIM, I KNOW YOU WEREN'T HERE FOR THIS PARTICULAR PORTION OF OUR MEETING, BUT, UH, MAYBE SOME OF THIS MONEY THAT THE STATE HAS, MAYBE THE LAW COULD BE CHANGED WHERE THAT MONEY COULD GO TOWARDS RADIO WHENEVER IT'S REDISTRIBUTED.
I, WHETHER YOU CAN PULL THAT OFF OR NOT, BUT, UH, IS THE, YOU KNOW, BUT I, I THINK WHAT OUR GOAL IS OR WHAT WE PLAN TO DO, NO, THAT, UH, WE DO NOT HAVE THE MONEY TO PURCHASE THE EQUIPMENT.
UH, BUT WE WOULD DO A LEASE PURCHASE MUCH LIKE WE DO ON ROAD GRADERS AND TRUCKS, UH, AND PAY THEM OFF OVER A PERIOD OF, UH, PROBABLY THREE TO FIVE YEARS AND, UH, BELIEVE WE CAN LEASE PURCHASE SOME OF THIS EQUIPMENT IF WE CHOOSE TO DO SO.
UH, UH, WE'VE BEEN VERY FORTUNATE IN BEING ABLE TO GET SOME VERY LOW INTEREST LOAN.
UH, BUT THE MAJOR COST, OF COURSE IS THE COST, UH, APPEARS TO BE MAYBE HALF OF IT BY THE TIME YOU FURNISH IT.
UH, THE FURNISHER, ALL THE OTHER IT EQUIPMENT AND MANUAL TOWER.
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JUST LIKE I SAID, MY CONCERN THAT WE'RE STARTING THE PROCESS IS GONNA BE ONGOING THAT WE'RE NOT BUDGETING FOR WITH NO GUARANTEE FROM ANY OF THE CITIES IN WRITING.NOW, YOU KNOW, WE CAN SEE SOME FIGURES ON THAT WHERE WE KNOW WHERE WE'RE HEADED WITH A BUDGET, I FEEL LOT MORE, WELL, THAT WOULD BE GOING ON AT THE SAME TIME.
AND IT IS NOT THAT IT HADN'T BEEN DISCUSSED.
WE'VE STARTED DISCUSSING THIS THREE YEARS AGO AND THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF TIME THERE EFFORT PUT INTO IT EARLY ON.
UH, I, IT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS, UH, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN DISCUSS AND TALK ABOUT AND COME BACK AND I CAN PROBABLY FIND REASONS WHY I DON'T THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA.
BUT, UH, WHEN IT COMES TO PUBLIC SAFETY AND IF WE HAVE A FIREFIGHTER OR A DEPUTY OR A CONSTABLE OR SOMEBODY LIKE THAT THAT'S IN DIRE STRAITS THAT NEEDS HELP AND THEY CAN'T COMMUNICATE, I THINK THAT'S OUR DUTY AS I FEEL ON MY WATCH AT LEAST, UH, THAT I DON'T WANT THAT ON MY HAND.
THAT'S ONE OF OUR MAJOR RESPONSIBILITIES AND WE HAVE TO, UH, BY BULLET AND MAKE IT WORK, WHATEVER THAT NEEDS.
AND I PROMISE YOU FROM MY END, WORKING WITH THE SHERIFF, WORKING WITH GEORGE, WORKING WITH THE CITY FOLKS THAT HAVE INDICATED THEIR SUPPORT, UH, THAT, UH, WE WILL DO EVERYTH WE CAN TO FIND THE MONETARY FUNDS TO MAKE THIS WORK.
IF WE DON'T GET A GRANT OR WHATEVER, WE WILL DO A LEASE PURCHASE JUST LIKE WE'LL DO ON MOTOR GRATER DUMP TRUCKS.
AND WE'VE BEEN VERY SUCCESSFUL IN DOING THAT.
AND, UH, SO THAT WOULD BE MY BELIEF IN HOW WE WOULD MOVE FORWARD.
WHEN WE, WHEN WE FIRST STARTED THIS, UH, THREE YEARS AGO, I WAS HOPING THAT IT WOULD BE A, UH, A FACILITY THAT WOULD ALREADY BE IN OPERATION.
WE, WE KEEP FOOLING AROUND HERE AND, AND NOT GETTING IT DONE.
THE FIRST RESPONDERS NEED THIS.
THE, UH, THE POLICE FORCES, THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE, UH, FIRST TIME WE LET SOME GUY GET AWAY FROM US, THAT'S DONE SOMETHING BAD, YOU KNOW? AND, UH, UH, IF THIS THING COULD, IF THIS FACILITY AND THE EQUIPMENT IN THE FACILITY COULD, UH, UH, CATCH A GUY OR PREVENT SOMEBODY FROM LOSING THEIR LIFE, ONE LAUGH IS, IS WORTH, YOU KNOW, IT, YOU CAN'T PUT A PRICE ON IT.
I MEAN, YOU GOTTA, IF YOU SAVE ONE FIREFIGHTER, IF YOU SAVE ONE PERSON OUT ON THE FAR END OF THE COUNTY'S RUN OFF A BRIDGE OR SOMETHING, AND, AND RADIO'S CRACKING, POPPING 'CAUSE YOU CAN'T HEAR 'EM, AND THE GUYS CAN'T FIND THEM, YOU KNOW, IT, IT IS WORTH IT ALL.
I MEAN, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HERE IS TO PRO TO PROVIDE FOR PUBLIC SAFETY.
AND WE'RE, WE ARE, UH, UH, WE'VE DONE A LOT OF GOOD WORK ON THIS BUDGET.
UH, WE'VE, WE'VE BROUGHT IT WAY OUT OF THE HOLE AND, UH, IT CAN BE BUDGETED FOR AND WITH THE CITIES, I MEAN WITH JUST LOOK, YOU KNOW, WE'VE FILLED UP THE WHOLE COMMISSIONER COURTROOM.
THERE'S PEOPLE STANDING AROUND, I'M SURE THEY'RE TALKING ON CELL PHONES AND EVERYTHING ELSE.
UH, WONDERING WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO HERE.
UH, YOU KNOW, I'M FOR THIS THING BECAUSE I'M FOR LIFE.
I'M TO IMPROVE THE QUALITY OF, OF LIFE AND CAMAN COUNTY, AND WE CANNOT DO THAT UNLESS WE PROVIDE THE INFRASTRUCTURE AND, UH, THE EQUIPMENT FOR OUR, FOR OUR FIRST RESPONDERS TO, UH, HELP THE TEXAS COMMISSIONER.
I THINK WE STUDY THIS THING PRETTY GOOD.
I APPRECIATE THE CITY BEING HERE, PUTTING IN, PUT IN THAT THEY'RE GONNA BE ABOARD.
SO I THINK, YOU KNOW, WE GOT THIS ASSURED FOR THEM STANDING HERE IN FRONT OF US TALKING ABOUT IT, THAT, UH, WE, THIS COMMISSIONER, WELL, I'M IN FAVOR OF DOING THIS.
WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON FOR A COUPLE YEARS.
ONE OF OUR OBLIGATIONS IS COMMISSIONER REPORT IS PROVIDE FOR THE HEALTH, SAFETY, AND WELFARE OF OUR CITIZENS.
AND THIS IS A WAY TO PROVIDE FOR THE SAFETY OF THEM.
THERE'S A LOT OF REMARKS ABOUT, UH, OH, THE FIREMEN, POLICEMEN.
BUT WHAT ABOUT THE CITIZENS? I MEAN, WHEN YOU PICK UP 9 1 1, YOU'RE ANTICIPATE SOMEBODY'S GONNA BE IN THE OTHER END.
IT COULD BE LIKE SOME COUNTIES TO THE WEST OF US HERE THAT YOU CALL IN THERE AND NOBODY ANSWERS AND YOUR DAUGHTER'S BEING KILLED ON TELEPHONE OR YOU'RE WAITING FOR SOMEBODY TO PICK UP.
I DON'T WANT GET US A DEPOSITION.
THE, UH, IT LOOKS LIKE JACK, FOR WORKING ON THIS THING WITH, LIKE I SAY, THE
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VALUE ENGINEERING IS YET TO COME.TO START OFF WITH THE CITY OF CRAN HELPED US A LOT BY GOING FROM A CENTRAL FACILITY CLASSIFICATION TO NON-ESSENTIAL SAVED US FIVE OR $600,000 ON THAT ROUTE.
WE HAVE NOT GOTTEN INTO THE VALUE ENGINEERING WITH THIS LOW BIDDER AS YET.
THERE COULD BE INCREASED POTENTIAL SAVINGS.
MATTER FACT, I'D BE WILLING TO BET THERE BE SOME MORE SAVING INVOLVED.
WE GET BACK IN, COME TO US AND SAY, HAVE Y'ALL THOUGHT ABOUT DOING IT THIS WAY? AS OPPOSED TO WHAT THE PLAN SHOULD.
IF IT, IF IT IN TURN GET THE END RESULT IS THE SAME, THAT'S ROUTE WE'RE GONNA, AND, UH, I WOULD LIKE TO TURN THAT OVER THAT JOB OVER TO SOMEBODY ELSE.
BUT AT THIS POINT, SINCE IT'S IN, SINCE IT'S IN YOU, YOU CAN TAKE MY POSITION IN THAT VALUE ENGINEERING MEETINGS.
BUT THAT, THAT, THAT BRINGS US TO ANOTHER ITEM THAT'S NOT ON THE AGENDA, BUT I THINK WE OUGHT HAVE A WORKSHOP ON.
IS, IS, UH, HIRING OR APPOINTING, UH, MAYBE A, UH, FACILITY MANAGER? YEAH, I THINK, I THINK WE NEED SOMEONE AS MANY FACILITIES AS WE HAVE A FACILITIES ADMINISTRATOR, SOMEBODY THAT CAN GO AND SPEND THE TIME ONLY OVERSEE THE CONSTRUCTION AND MAKE SURE PLANS ARE FOLLOWED AND, AND, YOU KNOW, LOOK FOR SAVINGS, INTERACT WITH THE CONTRACTORS AND THE COMMISSIONER COURT KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON.
NONE OF US HERE HAD TIME TO OVERSEE IT.
POOR JACK, HE STRETCHED TO THE LIMIT.
UH, TRYING TO FACILITATE THE CONTRACTS AND THE BIDS AND STUFF.
SO I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE THE MOTION APPROVE THE PERSON MAKING RECOMMENDATION TO GET BACK HERE.
15TH TO ENTER THE CONTRACT WITH EDDIE WILSON CONSTRUCTION OF, OKAY.
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER CLARK.
SECOND, UH, COMMISSIONER MANNING SECONDS.
DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER DISCUSSIONS? FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
I APPRECIATE EVERYBODY'S WORK.
WE'RE GOING, WE'VE BEEN HERE ABOUT AN HOUR AND A HALF.
WILL, UH, COME WE'LL UH, TURN THE, UH, VOLUME UP A LITTLE BIT ON OUR SOUND SYSTEM.
UH, SOMEONE COMPLAINED ABOUT NOT BEING ABLE TO HEAR, SO CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW? THANK YOU.
CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW? IS THAT THE APPETITE? OKAY, GOOD.
ALRIGHT, WE WILL MOVE NOW INTO, UH, BACK UP TO ITEM NUMBER SEVEN AND, UH, WE WILL EXIT THE REGULAR MEETING AND ENTER INTO A PUBLIC HEARING, UH, HERE.
SO I NEED, UH, FOR ITEM NUMBER, UH, UH, NINE.
UH, SO I, I HAVE A MOTION TO ENTER INTO A PUBLIC, UH, UH, HEARING.
SO MAY COMMISSIONER, UH, MANNING MAKES THAT MOTION.
UH, COMMISSIONER, UH, UH, SHANE, SECOND MOTION.
AND THOSE AGAINST, UH, JIM, UH, GLAD TO HAVE YOU WITH US THIS MORNING AND THANKS FOR BRINGING THE REIGN.
WELL, THANK YOU, UH, JUDGE AND MEMBERS OF COURT, AND I HOPE WE CAN GET SOME OF THAT RAIN IN CENTRAL TEXAS AS WELL.
WE'RE IN DESPERATE NEED DOWN THERE.
UM, IT'S GOOD TO BE BACK WITH YOU.
UM, THIS IS THE, UH, PUBLIC HEARING ON THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE, UM, TO PROHIBIT SOLID WASTE DISPOSAL IN CERTAIN AREAS OF KAUFMAN COUNTY.
IF YOU'LL RECALL FROM OUR FEBRUARY 24TH MEETING THAT WE DISCUSSED AT THAT MEETING, THAT THE, UH, TEXAS LEGISLATURE HAS GRANTED TEXAS COUNTY'S LIMITED AUTHORITY OVER THE DISPOSAL OF SOLID WASTE IN YOUR COUNTY, BUT THEY'VE ATTACHED SOME CONDITIONS TO THAT AUTHORITY.
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ANY EXISTING PERMITTING SOLID WASTE FACILITY IN YOUR COUNTY.TWO, YOU MUST EXEMPT ANY APPLICATION THAT'S PRESENTLY PENDING BEFORE THE TEXAS COMMISSION ON ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY OR SOLID WASTE FACILITY IN YOUR COUNTY.
AND THEN THREE, YOU MUST DESIGNATE SOME AREA IN THE COUNTY IN WHICH THE DISPOSAL OF SOLID WASTE IS NOT PROHIBITED.
THIS STATUTE IS THE ONLY MECHANISM THAT'S BEEN GRANTED TO TEXAS COUNTIES TO HAVE SOME LOCAL CONTROL OVER THE LOCATION OF SOLID WASTE FACILITIES IN YOUR COUNTY.
IF YOU DO NOT EXERCISE THIS AUTHORITY, THEN THE ENTIRE COUNTY IS OPEN TO AN APPLICATION BEING FILED AT THE TEXAS COMMISSION ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY AND TAKEN UP THERE.
AND YOU WOULD'VE NO OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE ANY OP ANY SAY ABOUT WHERE A SOLID WASTE FACILITY WOULD BE IN THE COUNTY.
UH, FOR HEARING IN CONSIDERATION THE, YOU INSTRUCTED US TO PREPARE WHAT'S CALLED A TAKINGS IMPACT ASSESSMENT, UH, THAT, UH, DISCUSSES WHETHER OR NOT THIS ORDINANCE WOULD HAVE ANY EFFECT ON PRIVATE PROPERTY VALUES IN THE COUNTY.
AND WE DID THAT, AND THAT'S BEEN ON FILE AT THE COUNTY JUDGE'S OFFICE FOR OVER 30 DAYS.
YOU INSTRUCTED US TO DRAFT THE PROPOSED ORDERS THAT WOULD MEET THOSE THREE CONDITIONS THAT I MENTIONED AND WILL SATISFY THE NOTICE REQUIREMENT IN THE STATUTE THAT THAT ORDINANCE BE PUBLISHED AT LEAST TWICE FOR TWO CONSECUTIVE WEEKS PRIOR TO THIS PUBLIC HEARING.
AND THAT NOTICE HAS BEEN PUBLISHED WITH A COPY OF THAT ORDINANCE IN THE NOTICE WHETHER A COPY OF THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE HAS BEEN ON FILE IN THE COUNTY JUDGE'S OFFICE NOW FOR OVER 30 DAYS.
SO WE HAVE COMPLIED WITH THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE STATUTE IN ORDER FOR YOU TO TAKE UP AND CONSIDER, UH, THE ORDINANCE, UH, IN THE PUBLIC HEARING TODAY IS THE LAST STEP THAT YOU MUST, UH, PROCEED THROUGH BEFORE YOU CAN TAKE UP AND VOTE, UH, ON THE ORDINANCE ITSELF.
NOW FOR YOUR BENEFIT, I HAVE PREPARED AND, AND BROUGHT WITH ME ADDITIONAL COPIES OF THE TAKING SEAL IMPACT ASSESSMENT, UH, AND THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE.
THEY'RE THE EXACTLY THE, THE COPIES THAT, UH, UH, HAVE BEEN, UH, ON FILE IN THE JUDGE'S OFFICE FOR THE PAST 30 DAYS.
I ALSO HAVE PREPARED FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION, UH, AT THE CLOSES OF THE HEARING, IF YOU CHOOSE TO DO SO, YOU MAY TAKE UP AN ORDER TO BE ADOPTED BY THE COMMISSIONER SHORT THAT THE RECITES THAT YOU HAVE RECEIVED AND REVIEWED TO TAKE IMPACT ASSESSMENT, THAT YOU HAVE CONDUCTED A PUBLIC HEARING ON THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE, THAT THE NOTICE OF THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE WAS PUBLISHED, AS WAS SAID, AS REQUIRED, AND THAT YOU RECEIVE COMMENTS, IF ANY HERE AT THE PUBLIC HEARING AND THAT YOU THEREAFTER ADOPT THE ORDINANCE AS IT HAS BEEN PUBLISHED.
AND I'LL PASS OUT COPIES OF THAT PROPOSED ORDER.
BEFORE I STEP ASIDE, JUDGE, AND, AND YOU CALL ON, UH, ANY PUBLIC COMMENT THAT, UH, QUESTIONS FROM THE AUDIENCE, UM, I WOULD ASK THAT YOU, UM, NOTE THAT I HAVE ATTACHED TWO EXHIBITS TO THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE.
UH, EXHIBIT A IS THE PUBLISHER'S AFFIDAVIT, UH, DEMONSTRATING THAT THE NOTICE, UH, OF THE ORDINANCE IN THIS HEARING WERE DULY PUBLISHED AS REQUIRED BY LAW.
I WOULD ASK THAT YOU ADMIT EXHIBIT A, UH, AS A EXHIBIT INTO THIS PUBLIC HEARING.
YOU ALSO NOTICE I ATTACHED EXHIBIT B.
UH, EXHIBIT B IS A COPY OF THE TEXAS COMMISSION ON ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY, UM, PROCEEDINGS, UH, FROM THEIR WEBSITE, UH, INDICATING THAT THERE IS A, UH, PERMIT PRESENTLY ISSUED BY THE TCEQ OR A LANDFILL FACILITY IN THE, IN KAUFMAN COUNTY.
AND THAT IS THE CITY OF TAROT FACILITY, AND THAT IS THEREFORE EXEMPT FROM THIS
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ORDINANCE.I'D ASK THAT YOU ADMIT EXHIBIT B INTO THIS PROCEEDING.
WITH THAT, IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSIONER COURT, I'D BE GLAD TO ANSWER THEM.
OF COURSE, ANY QUESTIONS COME UP DURING THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD, UH, IF ANY, I'LL BE GLAD TO RESPOND TO THOSE AS WELL.
WE'LL BEGIN THE PUBLIC HEARING AND WE DO HAVE THE ORDINANCE THAT'S, UH, PREPARED, UH, BY MR. ALLISON, UH, PROHIBITING SOLID WASTE DISPOSAL IN CALIN COUNTY AND PROVIDING CIVIL AND CRIMINAL PENALTIES.
I WOULD, UH, ADMIT, UH, ITEM OR EXHIBIT A, WHICH SHOWS THE NEWSPAPER PUBLICATIONS THAT OCCURRED IN BELIEVE PONY MESSENGER, UH, EARLIER, AND THEN EXHIBIT B, UH, WHICH ALSO SHOWS THAT WE DO HAVE AN EXISTING LANDFILL PERMIT, UH, IN THE, UH, UH, COUNTY THAT'S, UH, CURRENTLY OPERATED BY THE CITY OF CARROLL.
I DO BELIEVE THAT PERMIT IS ACTIVE, BUT THEY'RE NOT USING THE, UH, FACILITY AS A DUMP GROUND.
DUMP GROUND'S NOT THE RIGHT WORD, SOLID WASTE.
THE LANDFILL'S NOT IN CURRENT OPERATION, BUT THE PERMIT IS STILL ACTIVE AT THE TCEQ.
DID I GET EVERYTHING IN THERE THAT I NEEDED TO GET IN THERE? VERY GOOD, THANK YOU.
ALRIGHT, IS THERE ANY PERSON HERE THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE COURT, UH, CONCERNING THIS PROPOSED ORDINANCE? AND THIS IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT.
UH, THIS IS AN ORDINANCE WHICH COUNTIES NORMALLY DO NOT PASS.
WE NORMALLY, I BELIEVE, HAVE ORDERS JIM, AND, BUT THE WAY THE STATUTE IS WRITTEN, THIS IS AN ORDINANCE THAT THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT WILL, UH, CONSIDER AFTER WE, UH, COMPLETE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
SO AS ANYONE HERE THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE COURT ON THIS PARTICULAR ORDINANCE, UH, DEALING WITH, UH, SOLID WASTE PROPOSAL, UH, IN KAMAN COUNTY, OR A SOLID WASTE, UH, PROHIBITED, SOLID WASTE, OTHER THAN ONE AREA, IS THERE ANYONE HERE THAT WOULD LIKE TO COMMENT ON THIS OR TO SPEAK TO THE COURT, UH, ABOUT THIS ORDINANCE? AND FOR THE THIRD AND LAST TIME, IS THERE ANYONE HERE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK, UH, TO THE COURT, UH, ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR ORDINANCE DEALING WITH SOLID WASTE DISPOSAL, UH, MR. LONG, I KNOW YOU HAVE TALKED, I THINK YES.
WITH MR. ALLISON AND OW COUNTY ATTORNEY.
YOU, UH, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? I DO NOT.
I DO NOT THINK HE'S BEEN VERY THOROUGH IN THE PROOFING OF THE COURT.
ALSO THE NOTICES I'VE SEEN, NO ISSUES, PROBLEMS. OKAY.
I'LL MOVE BACK TO THE PUBLIC HEARING TO ENTER THE EXECUTIVE SESSION, WE SHOULD GO AHEAD AND EXIT THE PUBLIC HEARING.
UH, JIM, YOU SHOULD EXIT THE PUBLIC HEARING, BUT WE HAVE PLACED AN EXECUTIVE SESSION ITEM ON THE AGENDA IF THE MEMBERS OF THE COURT, UH, NEED LEGAL ADVICE ON ANY ISSUE PERTAINING TO THE COORDINATES OR THE TIA OR ANYTHING ELSE PERTAINING TO THIS QUESTION THERE IF YOU NEED IT.
UH, IF YOU DO NOT, ONCE YOU CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING, YOU MAY ACCEPT A MOTION TO ADOPT THE ORDER TO TO, TO ADOPT THE ORDINANCE.
ANYBODY THINK WE NEED PUBLIC? I MEAN, A EXECUTIVE SESSION? I TAKE MY NOTE TO, TO, UH, EXIT PUBLIC HEARING.
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER CLARK SECOND TO EXIT THE PUBLIC HEARING.
WE HAVE A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER MANNING.
UH, DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
THOSE OPPOSED? WE'LL NOW MOVE, UH, TO ITEM NUMBER, UH, 10, UH, I'M SORRY.
UH, WE'LL NOT HAVE ITEM NUMBER 10.
WE WILL MOVE TO ITEM NUMBER 12, AND THAT IS TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER POTENTIAL ACTION REGARDING THE TAKINGS IMPACT, UH, STATE ASSESSMENT PURSUANT TO CHAPTER 2 0 0 7 TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE.
AND REGARDING PROPOSED KAUFMAN COUNTY ORDINANCE AND ORDINANCE PROHIBITING SOLID WASTE AND DISPOSAL OF KAUFMAN COUNTY AND PROVIDING SEVERAL AND CRIMINAL, UH, PENALTIES.
UH, DO WE HAVE ANY DISCUSSION, UM, AMONG THE COURT OR ARE WE READY TO PROCEED? WE'RE READY TO PROCEED.
OKAY, JIM, THAT'S ALL WE NEED TO DO IS MOVE RIGHT AHEAD.
IF YOU, UH, UH, ADOPT THE ORDER, UH, PREVIOUSLY PROVIDED YOUR OFFICE A COPY OF A LETTER TO TRANSMIT A COPY, UH, OF THE ORDINANCE AT THIS ADOPTED, UH, TO THE TEXAS COMMISSIONAL ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY, UH, TO PUT THEM ON NOTICE THAT YOU DO HAVE AN ORDINANCE HERE, UH, SO THAT IF ANYONE DOES SEEK TO ESTABLISH A LANDFILL IN KAUFMAN COUNTY, THEY WILL NEED TO CONTACT THE COUNTY FIRST BEFORE PROCEEDING IN THAT REGARD.
AND I WOULD ADD TO THE, WE, JIM AND I HAVE HAD, AND I THINK KIM WAS THERE, WE'VE HAD A DISCUSSION WITH THE CITY OF TERRELL
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IN THIS MATTER, AND THEY HAVE, THEY'RE FINE WITH WHAT WE'RE DOING.SO, UH, I BELIEVE THAT'S, I DON'T IF ANYBODY'S HERE FROM TERRELL, IF THEY ALL LEFT OR NOT, BUT I I I KNOW THAT THEY UNDERSTOOD WHAT WE WERE TRYING TO DO.
WE BRIEFED THEM, UM, AT A MEETING, FOLLOWING YOUR MEETING, UM, FIRST WEEK IN MARCH.
UH, COMMISSIONER LIK, WERE YOU MAKING THAT INTO A MOTION? YES, SIR.
AND COMMISSIONER SHANE SECOND.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
AND JIM, WHILE YOU'RE HERE, WE'RE GOING TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF YOU LITTLE BIT.
UH, ITEM NUMBER 13, I JUST, UH, PUT ON, UH, TO RECEIVE AND DISCUSS THE MOST RECENT INFORMATION FROM THE TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION IN REGARDS TO THE COUNTY TRANSPORTATION INFRASTRUCTURE GRANT.
UH, WE DID GET, UH, VIEWS AND I BELIEVE, COMMISSIONER, YOU HAVE A COPY OF THAT.
OUR, OUR ALLOTMENT WENT UP FROM 235,000 TO 299,000, SO NEARLY $300,000, SO IT WAS WORTHWHILE ENDEAVOR.
SO YOU MAY WANT TO SPEAK TO THAT IF YOU DON'T MIND.
I'LL JUST BRIEFLY, AND, UH, BEFORE WE LEAVE THE PRIOR TOPIC, I ASK THAT YOUR STAFF WHEN YOU, UH, HAVE A SIGNED COPY OF THE ORDER AND THE TRANSMITTAL LETTER, UH, TO THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE TEXAS COMMISSION ENVIRONMENT QUALITY, AND SEND US A COPY AND, UH, WE'LL HAVE THAT IN OUR FILE.
THE, UH, THIS FITS IN I THINK WELL WITH THE PUBLIC COMMENT THAT YOU HEARD TODAY.
AND, AND IT'S A MATTER THAT WE HEAR THROUGHOUT THE STATE THAT, UM, OUR COUNTY ROAD INFRASTRUCTURE SYSTEM IS IN DIRE NEED OF IMPROVEMENT, REPAIR, AND REHABILITATION.
UH, THE INCREASED, UH, TRUCK TRAFFIC THAT WE'RE HAVING TO CARRY, PARTICULARLY ON OUR COUNTY ROADS, UM, FRANKLY WITH A BETTER ECONOMY AND IN SOME PARTS OF THE STATE, UH, HIGH ACTIVITY OF OIL AND GAS HAS CAUSED OUR, OUR ROADS TO DETERIORATE AND BE, UH, IN GREAT NEED, UH, OF REPAIR AND ADDITIONAL MAINTENANCE.
UH, UNFORTUNATELY, COUNTIES DON'T HAVE A SOURCE OF REVENUE, UH, READILY AVAILABLE OTHER THAN THE PROPERTY TAX.
AND FOR MOST OF US, THAT'S PRETTY MUCH USED UP.
UH, SO WE'RE LEFT WITH ROADS THAT NEED WORK AND VERY LITTLE WAY TO RAISE THE MONEY TO DO IT, BUT WE WERE SUCCESSFUL LAST SESSIONS THEN FOR THE FIRST TIME OF PAYING A DIRECT STATE APPROPRIATION TO ASSIST COUNTY ROADS, UH, IN THE REPAIRED REHABILITATION, UH, OF THEIR SYSTEM, UM, $225 MILLION WITH APPROPRIATED COUNTIES FOR THIS PURPOSE.
NOW, I FOLLOWED A STUDY BY
UM, BUT EVERY LITTLE BIT HELPS, AND WE CERTAINLY WANT TO PUT THIS 225 MILLION TO GOOD USE.
THEY ALLOCATED THE RESPONSIBILITY OF, OF DISTRIBUTING THOSE GRANTS TO THE TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION.
THEY SET UP A SYSTEM TO RECEIVE APPLICATIONS.
THE AMOUNT THAT YOU RECEIVE IS DETERMINED BY THE LEGISLATURE IN A FORMULA THAT THEY PUT IN THE STATUTE.
SO IT WAS, THERE WAS NOT ANY, ANY WAY OTHER THAN APPLYING FOR IT TO GET THE MONEY, AND THERE WAS NOT ANY WAY TO GET MORE MONEY, EXCEPT THAT SOME COUNTIES, BELIEVE IT OR NOT, DID NOT APPLY FOR ANY OR ALL OF THEIR ALLOCATION.
SO AS THE JUDGE POINTED OUT, UH, WE WORKED WITH YOU ON YOUR INITIAL APPLICATION AND SUBMITTED IT, AND AS WE INSPECTED, UH, SOME COUNTIES DID NOT TAKE THEIR ALLOCATION.
AND SO YOU RECEIVED AN ADDITIONAL REALLOCATION, UH, THAT BROUGHT YOUR NOW GRAND TOTAL UP TO $299,979.
NOW, THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE MATCHED, UH, BY LOCAL MATCH.
UM, I BELIEVE YOU'RE A 10%, 10% MATCHED BECAUSE YOU'RE WHAT'S CALLED AN ECONOMICALLY DISADVANTAGED COUNTY.
SO YOU'LL, YOU'LL RECEIVE $299,000 FROM THE STATE.
YOU'LL HAVE TO PUT UP ABOUT $30,000 LOCALLY.
UM, AND YOU'LL HAVE TO SPEND THE MONEY OF COURSE, AND THEN ASK THE STATE FOR REIMBURSEMENT IF THAT MONEY IS SET ASIDE FOR YOU.
YOU CANNOT BE SENT TO ANY OTHER COUNTY AND IT WILL BE AVAILABLE TO YOU AS YOU BEGIN TO WORK ON THESE PROJECTS.
YOU HAVE TO SUBMIT A LIST OF PROJECTS TO THEM THAT, TO DEMONSTRATE WHAT YOUR NEEDS ARE.
AND AS WE EXPECTED, THE NEEDS IN THIS COUNTY GREATLY EXCEED THE AMOUNT OF FUNDS THE STATE'S PRESENTLY MAKING AVAILABLE.
IN FACT, ALMOST EXACTLY WHAT THE STATE HAD ESTIMATED, THEY ESTIMATED THAT, THAT YOU NEEDED, YOUR PROJECTS INDICATED YOU NEEDED $1.5 MILLION, UM, ABOUT FIVE TIMES THE AMOUNT, UH,
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THAT'S BEEN MADE AVAILABLE.UM, BUT WE AGAIN, WE'RE HOPEFUL AND GRATEFUL TO GET WHAT WE ARE GETTING.
AND WE'LL GO BACK NEXT SESSION AND PERHAPS THE STATE WILL LOOK AGAIN AT THIS AND, AND MAKE ANOTHER ALLOCATION TO CONTINUE THE PROJECT.
RIGHT NOW, THERE ARE STEPS THAT YOU MUST PROCEED TO AS YOU HAVE TO APPROVE A CONTRACT WITH TDOT THAT YOU WILL TAKE THE MONEY AND USE IT PROPERLY ON THESE PROJECTS.
YOU'LL HAVE TO REORDER YOUR PROJECTS DOWN FROM 1,000,005 TO PROJECTS THAT WILL USE YOUR 300,000 STATE ALLOCATION AND TURN THAT BACK IN SO THAT THEY KNOW THAT YOU'RE ABOUT IN THE NEXT FEW MONTHS TO BEGIN WORK ON THOSE PROJECTS.
UM, AND WE ARE PREPARING, AND YOU'LL RECEIVE THIS NEXT WEEK, JUDGE A DRAFT CONTRACT, UM, THAT FILLS IN ALL THE BLANKS, UH, FOR YOU DECIDE AND SEND TO YOUR DISTRICT KITCHEN TO YOUR, AND ORDER THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT TO APPROVE THAT CONTRACT AND DESIGNATED COUNTY REPRESENTATIVE TO SIGN EVERY NECESSARY DOCUMENT TO GET THE GRANT AND ALL.
YOU KNOW, THERE'S GONNA BE A LOT OF PAPERWORK, UH, AND, UM, CERTAIN CERTIFICATIONS THAT THEY HAVE TO HAVE THAT YOU ARE GOING TO PROPERLY USE THE MONEY.
BUT ONCE ALL THAT PAPERWORK'S TURNED IN, YOU CAN START TURNING IN INVOICES AND GETTING REIMBURSED FOR YOUR WORK ON THESE PROJECTS.
SO WE'RE GLAD TO REPORT, UM, UH, SOME ADDITIONAL MONEY AND PROJECTS ARE MOVING FORWARD AND, AND, UH, HOPEFULLY ABOUT THIS TIME NEXT MONTH, UH, YOU CAN START THE, AS WE SAY, THE DIRT FLYING OUT THERE AND, AND START REPAIRING SOME OF THESE ROADS.
WELL, WE APPRECIATE YOUR EFFORTS IN GETTING THIS LAW.
I HAVE BEEN GETTING THIS LAW, UH, PASSED AND WHEN IT FIRST STARTED, I DON'T THINK ANY OF US THOUGHT WE HAD ANY CHANCE OF GETTING CLOSE TO THE AMOUNT OF MONEY WE'RE GETTING.
SO THIS IS 300,000 APPROXIMATE ADDITIONAL DOLLARS THAT ALL OF OUR, UH, AREAS.
EVERYBODY SAID, STATE HASN'T HELPED US IN ALL THESE YEARS.
YOU KNOW, WHAT'S THE CHANCES NOW? BUT AS WE'VE DISCOVERED, IF YOU DON'T ASK, YOU NEVER WILL GET ANYTHING.
AND WE KNOW HOW TO BE THE SQUEAKY WHEEL NOW, AND I'M GONNA TAKE BACK, UH, WHAT YOU SAID ABOUT THE EQUIPMENT NEEDS AND 9 1 1 AND, AND, UH, WE'LL PUT THAT ON THE LIST ALSO.
APPRECIATE THAT QUESTION, JIM.
JIM, YOU MAY NOT BE PREPARED TO GIVE THE ANSWER RIGHT NOW, BUT SOMETHING WE'LL NEED TO FIND OUT IS IN THESE SIX DO STANDARDS HERE, THAT, THAT IT SAYS THAT WE HAVE TO CREATE DESIGN STANDARDS FOR OUR ROAD.
YOU DON'T HAVE TO CREATE ANY NEW ONES.
UH, AND, AND THIS IS, WE DON'T HAVE ANY RIGHT NOW.
SO
UH, BUT WHATEVER STANDARD YOU'VE BEEN USING TO CONSTRUCT OR REHABILITATE A COUNTY ROAD, YOU HAVE TO CERTIFY TO CONTINUE TO APPLY THOSE THAT YOU WON'T BACKSLIDE ON YOUR ROAD STANDARDS, UH, WITH THESE FUNDS.
AND THAT'S THE CERTIFICATION WE'RE SENDING YOU, IS THAT YOU'LL CONTINUE TO APPLY THE STANDARDS YOU'VE BEEN APPLYING.
UH, AND AS LONG AS YOU'RE NOT ACQUIRING ANY NEW RIGHT OF WAY FOR THESE PROJECTS, YOU DON'T HAVE TO ADOPT ANY OTHER DESIGN STANDARDS AND YOU DO NOT HAVE TO ADOPT ANY ENVIRONMENTAL STANDARDS.
UH, SO WE'RE ALSO SENDING YOU AN ORDER THAT REFLECTS THAT YOU'LL NOT BE ACQUIRING ANY NEW RIGHT OF WAY FOR THESE PROJECTS.
IF THAT CHANGES AND YOU FIND THAT YOU DO NEED TO ACQUIRE ADDITIONAL RIGHT OF WAY BY PURCHASE OR DONATION OR EVEN CONDEMNATION, CONTACT US AGAIN BECAUSE YOU WILL HAVE TO JUMP THROUGH SOME MORE HOOPS.
BUT AS LONG AS YOU STAY ON PRESENT RIGHT OF WAY, KEEP DOING THESE ROADS THE WAY YOU'VE BEEN DOING YOUR ROADS, WE'VE GOT THAT LINED UP FOR YOU TO DO.
WE HAVE TO PUT THAT IN WRITING WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING.
DO WE NEED TO HAVE A STANDARD IN WRITING OR JUST NO, YOU JUST CERTIFIED.
YOU'RE GONNA KEEP ON USING THE SAME LEVELS THAT YOU HAVE BEEN.
UH, IF SOME OF THESE PROJECTS WILL BE PICKED FOR AUDIT, AND THEY'LL COME OUT AND THEY'LL LOOK TO SEE DID YOU CONSTRUCT THIS PROJECT TO THE SAME STANDARD YOU HAD USED TO PRIOR PROJECTS? BUT UNLESS YOU'RE GOING OUT FOR CONTRACTS TO CONTRACTORS, IN WHICH CASE THEIR ENGINEERS WILL CERTIFY THE STANDARD BEING USED, YOU'RE JUST CERTIFYING, YOU'LL KEEP DOING WHAT YOU'VE BEEN DOING, YOU WON'T GO BACK.
THIS GRANT DIFFERENT, A LOT OF GRANTS THAT WE'VE BEEN INVOLVED IN AND IT, IT LOOKS LIKE THE TE DOT STANDARDS ARE SUCH THAT IT'S VERY FLEXIBLE, BUT THE FIRST LIST OF PRIORITY PROJECTS WE SUBMITTED ARE NOT CORRECT SO THAT WE CAN CHANGE OF WHEN WE GO BACK TO THIS GRANT AND MAKE 'EM CORRECT.
AND IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT A, IT'S NOT A KILLER THAT'S RIGHT THERE.
IT IS POSSIBLE TO, IF YOU LOOK AT YOUR PROJECT LIST
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AND SAY, WELL, UM, THIS IS NOT QUITE WHAT WE THINK WE NEED.NOW YOU CAN REORDER OR EVEN REVISE THAT PROJECT LIST.
INITIALLY, YOU'LL BE ASKED EVERY SIX MONTHS TO GO BACK AND LOOK AGAIN AND SAY, IS THIS STILL WHAT YOU WANT TO DO? IF YOU GRANT MONEY AND IF IT CHANGES, YOU CAN RESUBMIT EVERY SIX MONTHS, UH, TO CHANGE UP THE PROJECTS AND SAY, RECOGNIZING THAT THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, TRYING TO PLAN AHEAD AND YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT THE WEATHER'S GONNA DO.
YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT PROJECTS WILL BE AVAILABLE TO BE WORKED ON THAT.
YOU NEED SOME FLEXIBILITY ON THAT.
AND THEY HAVE GIVEN US THAT, AT WHAT POINT IN TIME SHOULD WE BRING IN THE SEA TURS ORDER? I KNOW SOMEONE ASKED THAT THE OTHER DAY.
WHEN WE FINALIZE THE, THAT'S A LOCAL CALL THAT, THAT IS, IS, UH, WE DISCUSSED, UH, BACK IN FEBRUARY THAT THE LEGISLATURE PUT SOME HOOPS FOR YOU TO JUMP THROUGH.
IT'S NATURALLY GET THIS MONEY.
THEY SAID YOU'D HAVE TO CREATE THIS THING CALLED THE COUNTY ENERGY TRANSPORTATION REINVESTMENT ZONE, SETTING ASIDE SOME, UH, INCREASED TAX VALUE FOR TRANSPORTATION, UH, AND CREATE AN ADVISORY BOARD TO THAT.
SEA TURTLES, WE CALL IT THEIR ONLY LEGAL DUTY, IS TO ADVISE YOU ON THE USE OF THE MONEY THAT COMES IN THROUGH THE C TERMS. WELL, THAT WON'T BE FOR ANOTHER YEAR BECAUSE IT'S BASED ON THE NEW APPRAISALS THAT WILL COME OUT IN, IN, YOU KNOW, LATER IN THE YEAR.
BUT, SO IT DOESN'T AFFECT THIS INITIAL ISSUE.
YOU MAY CALL ON THEM IF YOU CHOOSE TO AND ASK THEIR ADVICE.
UM, BUT IT IS, THAT'S ENTIRELY UP YOU, I THINK.
IS THERE AN EXIT STRATEGY TO GET OUT OF, TO DISSOLVE THE C TERMS ONCE WE HAVE COMPLETED THE PROJECT WITHIN THAT? IS THERE A LEGAL MECHANISM TO DO THAT? THERE'S, YES SIR.
THERE ARE TWO EXIT STRATEGIES YOU, YOU NEED TO KEEP IN MIND.
GET OUT A PROJECT, UH, ONCE YOU FINISHED IT, OR EVEN IF IT YOU ARE DETERMINED LATER, THAT COMPLETION OF THAT PROJECT IS NOT SOMETHING THAT YOU, THAT NO LONGER MEETS YOUR PRIORITIES.
THAT PROJECT LIST WE TALKED ABOUT CAN BE VISD.
AND IF YOU ARE FINISHED WITH THE PROJECT, YOU FILE A CERTIFICATION OF THAT.
IF IT TURNS OUT THAT YOU DON'T NEED TO COMPLETELY REPAY THE, THE WHOLE FIVE MILES OF COUNTY ROAD 1 0 4 AND YOU'VE GOT TWO MILES DONE AND THAT'S ALL THAT YOU NEED OR CAN AFFORD RIGHT NOW, YOU CAN AMEND THAT PROJECT BACK TO TWO MILES.
SO THE PROJECT LIST WOULD BE AMENDED TO, UH, TERMINATE OR COMPLETE PROJECTS.
THE CTARS IS CREATED FOR A 10 YEAR SPAN AND IT AUTOMATICALLY ENDS IN 10 YEARS.
UNLESS IT HAS PROJECTS UNDERWAY, WHETHER YOU, UH, TAKE UP PROJECTS UNDER THE CT, TURTLES WILL BE UP TO YOU.
UH, IF YOU DO NOT, UH, THEN YOU WILL DISSOLVE THAT CT TURTLES IN 10 YEARS.
YOU MIGHT COULD DISSOLVE IT EARLIER IF YOU HAD NO PROJECTS, BUT I RECOMMEND THAT.
I THINK YOU, FRANKLY, THE CTS WILL BE, I THINK A VALUABLE TOOL FOR COUNTIES LIKE KAUFMAN THAT LIKELY ARE GOING TO SEE CONSIDERABLE GROWTH, BUT NOT JUST IN THE NEXT 10 YEARS, 20 YEARS, 30 YEARS, 40 YEARS.
AND THE CT TURS PROVIDES A MEANS GOING FORWARD THAT YOU CAN SET ASIDE MONEY FOR TRANSPORTATION INFRASTRUCTURE.
UM, I THINK YOU MAY EVEN WANT TO START ON AN ANNUAL BASIS REVIEWING YOUR TRANSPORTATION PLANNING AND SEE IF YOU NEED TO EXPAND THE CTPS.
UH, IT MAY BE A TOOL THAT YOU FIND GOING FORWARD, UM, WOULD ENABLE YOU TO SET ASIDE MONEY FOR TRANSPORTATION AND OTHERWISE WOULD NOT BE AVAILABLE.
SO WE'LL BE BACK, YOU KNOW, AVAILABLE TO CONSULT WITH YOU IF YOU NEED US.
SO
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF JIM WHILE WE GOT HIM HERE? MAN, WORK WEBSITE TO GIVE MORE INFORMATION HERE.
IS IT, IS IT ACCESSIBLE? IS IT WORKING? IT, IT WILL REVISED, UH, OVER THE LAST, UH, WEEKEND AND I BROUGHT IT UP YESTERDAY.
UH, IT, IT WAS UP AND THEN IT WENT DOWN, BUT WE DISCOVERED THEY LEFT A COUNTY OFF THE LIST.
UH, AND WE NOTIFIED 'EM THAT ONE OF THE REASONS THEY PULLED IT DOWN WAS TO PUT THAT COUNTY ON THE LIST, UH, BECAUSE THEY, THEIR FEELINGS WERE QUITE HURTFUL, DIDN'T SHOW UP.
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KNOW IT WAS BACK UP YESTERDAY AFTERNOON, I PULLED IT BACK UP.THANK YOU JIM, FOR BEING HERE WITH US THIS MORNING.
WE APPRECIATE YOUR WORK ON THIS AND AS WELL AS THE, UH, SOLID WASTE, RIGHT? ONCE WE GET THE CONTRACT SIGNED AND BACK INTO THE TECH STOP AND THE REORDER, UH, PROJECT LIST, UH, WE'LL BE SENDING YOU INFORMATION ON HOW THE INVOICE TECH DOT FOR THE REIMBURSEMENTS AND WE'LL BE PROVIDING THAT ON YOU FOR THE COUNTY AUDITORS OF COURSE PROBABLY CARE THE BRUNT OF THAT.
AND THE MAIN THING I TELL YOU IS THAT WHEN YOU START A PROJECT, YOU'RE READY TO START KEEPING UP WITH WHAT EQUIPMENT'S USED ON THAT PROJECT, WHAT MATERIALS USED ON THAT PROJECT, AND EVEN WHAT MANPOWER IS USED ON THAT PROJECT.
DOES THAT DETERMINES YOUR REIMBURSEMENT ON THAT PROJECT? IS THERE SOME PARTICULAR FEE SCHEDULE WE SHOULD BE USING FOR MAN HOURS? SAY A WATER TRUCK IS WORTH CERTAIN AMOUNT OF HOURS.
THE, THE DISTRICT ENGINEERS WILL HAVE THAT LIST AND SAY WE'RE VERY LITTLE AROUND THE STATE.
THE ONLY THING THEY'VE TOLD US THUS FAR IS THEY EXPECTED TO THAT THEY WOULD AT LEAST ACCEPT A FEMA SCHEDULE.
UH, SOME COUNTIES HAVE WORKED WITH THAT IN THE PAST, I THINK'S LOW.
UH, SO PROBABLY ONE ACCEPT IT.
UM, BUT IT, YOU KNOW, IT HAS EQUIPMENT VALUES ON IT.
UM, AND, AND THEN WHATEVER YOU'RE ACTUALLY PAYING AND COMPENSATION WILL DETERMINE YOUR YOUR PERSONNEL COSTS.
THERE'S, YOU GET OTHER QUESTIONS FOR JIM.
I'D LIKE TO SKIP DOWN TO, UH, ITEM NUMBER 19.
I KNOW WE HAVE SOME FOLKS THAT ARE STICKING AROUND FOR THAT AND, UH, JACK, WOULD YOU LIKE TO COME UP? THANK WE WERE HAVING SOME TROUBLE GETTING SOME BIDS, I THINK.
UH, I PUT THIS ON THE AGENDA WAS UPDATED GENTLEMAN THAT, UH, UH, LAST THURSDAY THE BID WERE CLOSED AND EIGHT O'CLOCK WE HAD ONE BID.
AND SO, UH, AT 10 BID BID WE HAD TO RETURN WHOLE PROCESS.
SO I DECIDED TO, TO, UH, EXTEND THE BID CLOSING DATE.
UH, AT EIGHT 30 I THINK WE RECEIVED A BID.
NUMBER TWO, I'D ALREADY EXTENDED THE BID.
WE DID RECEIVE ANOTHER BID AT EIGHT 30, ANTICIPATE ADDITIONAL BID SINCE THAT'S BEEN EXTENDED.
AND I JUST WANTED TO, UH, ADDRESS THE COMMENTS ON THE ELMO, UH, PORTION.
UH, IF YOU REMEMBER WHEN WE HAD TO DISCUSS GOING OUT THE BID, WE, WE ASKED IF EVERYTHING WAS REMAINED THE SAME.
UH, THE, UH, WAS APPROVED ON THE 24TH TO GO OUT TO BID AND BID.
WERE EMAILED AND MAILED ON 3 25 THE NEXT DAY, I THINK IT WAS APPROXIMATELY 10 DAYS LATER, UH, MR. SHANE HAD, UH, ASKED WHEN I MAILED OUT THE BIDS, I WAS TO ADD ELMO AND I ADVISED THE COMMISSIONER THAT, THAT THE BID HAD BEEN OUT FOR ABOUT 10 DAYS AND THAT I WAS CONCERNED THAT ADDENDUM, UH, ENCLO MIGHT GET LOST AND I WASN'T SURE IF WE'D HAVE ENOUGH BIDS TO DO THE UNLOAD, BUT I, UH, WANT MAKE IT CLEAR, I DID NOT DENY, REFUSE TO DO THAT.
IT'S JUST MY THOUGHT THAT IT MIGHT AFFECT CLEANUP.
I TRY TO GET YOU GENTLEMEN, THE FOLKS TO PICK UP TRASH.
HAVING SAID THAT, UH, UHS CLOSING THIS THURSDAY, UH, COMMISSIONER ROSA HAD A GENTLEMAN THAT HE'S FAMILIAR WITH THAT HAD REACHED OUT TO ME TODAY THAT MAY WANT BID ON THIS, GIVE US ADDITIONAL BID CONTRACT.
WE HAD, WE HAD TWO BIDS AND UH, IT DID NOT COVER ALL THE, ALL THE AREAS.
I THINK, UH, MR. BAG HAD HAD TROUBLE WITH CURRING AND WE BROUGHT IN A, UH, THIRD GUY AND HE THE, HE THE EXTRA BID.
AND AS WELL, UH, WE MAY OPEN THAT UP TO ELMO THAT THAT WOULD BE'S CALL MY MIND.
SO LAST CONCERN WAS ADDING ANOTHER LOCATION, BUT IT'S WHATEVER Y'ALL COMFORTABLE WITH.
SO WE NOW HAVE, YOU THINK WE'LL HAVE FOUR BIDDERS? ACTUALLY, I, I THINK WE MIGHT, BUT, BUT I COST THE COURT.
WE GOT TWO MAJOR PLAYERS AND THE OTHER TWO GUYS HAVE, THEY'RE A SMALL COMPANY AND THEY'RE NOT READY SET FOR THIS.
I, WE COULD SURE OPEN THEM UP AND TAKE A LOOK AT 'EM AND POSSIBLY ADD THEM ON.
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THAT'D BE ALL DECISION.I'M NOT SURE WHY MOW DROPPED OFF, BUT LAST YEAR WENT DOWN TO ONE STATION BECAUSE YOU KNOW, YOU COULDN'T GET A BID FOR THE YEAR BEFORE OR SOMETHING WAS COMMISSIONER AND SO WE WENT BACK TO JUST ONE FACILITY.
HAVE CHUCK, CHUCK COME UP HERE JUST A SECOND.
IF YOU MIND, UH, I KNOW THESE GUYS THERE ARE HELP US.
UH, IS THERE A PROBLEM WITH INCLUDING STATION? UH, A BIG ISSUE WITH THE EL STATION IS I JUST NEED FOR SOMEBODY TO STAY THERE, HERE TONIGHT.
WHATEVER Y'ALL NEED TODAY IS OKAY.
I'LL HAVE TO SOME MORE EQUIPMENT.
I CAN'T EQUIPMENT I, THERE, I DON'T HAVE A HAVING TO DO THIS, BUT, UH, THE PRINCIPAL SAYING THERE'S DURING THE NIGHTTIME WE SHOW BACK UP MORNING, THERE'S, UH, ALL EVERYWHERE THAT THAT WOULD BE JUST THE THING.
I CAN'T, BUT I CAN'T LET YOU OPERATE EQUIPMENT OR DO ANYTHING LIKE THAT, BUT I Y'ALL BE THERE TO SEE IT AND FEED THE FOLKS OR Y'ALL, WHATEVER Y'ALL WANNA DO IN THAT, IN THAT UH, UH, AVENUE.
BUT UH, BASICALLY WE CANNOT HAVE THAT GO ON.
WE HAVE TO HAVE, UH, PEOPLE FROM THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT, WHICH IS THE TRUSTEES FROM OUT HERE AND OUR MEN, YOU KNOW, AROUND OUR COUNTY EQUIPMENT SINCE THIS IS A COUNTY OPERATION.
BUT, UH, IF Y'ALL WANNA FEED THEM AND BE CLOSE, THAT'S FINE WITH ME.
KIM, WE'LL DO ANYTHING YOU WANT US TO DO.
AS WE SAID BEFORE, IF YOU WANT US TO BE THERE AND SIGN PEOPLE IN, WE CAN DO THAT.
CHECK THE LICENSE OR WHATEVER YOU HAD MENTIONED AND TALKED ABOUT EARLIER ABOUT SECURITY BEING THERE AT THAT WE TOLD YOU AT THAT TIME, WE CAN DO THAT AND UH, WITHOUT ANY PROBLEM, WHATEVER YOU NEED FOR US TO DO, WE'RE WILLING TO DO IT.
I JUST WANT YOU TO REALIZE WE'VE GOT PARAMETERS HERE THAT WE HAVE TO WORK WITH AND I THINK ALL THE COMMERS HERE AGREE ON THAT.
WE CAN'T LET PEOPLE COME IN AND, AND, AND I UNDERSTAND THAT AND WE'RE WILLING TO DO WHATEVER YOU NEED FOR US TO DO.
DO YOU HAVE AN ESTIMATION OF HOW MANY CANS Y'ALL ARE GONNA FILL OVER? YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY WE'VE HAD, UH, ON THE NAR.
UH, WE HAVEN'T HAD 'EM IN THE LAST TWO YEARS BEFORE THAT AND EVERYTHING, ERIC, I, I DON'T, I DON'T, THAT'S NOT GONNA BE SOMETHING LIKE 25 CANS JACK CAN GET US.
LIKE WE HAD TWO BID COVERED ALL AREAS.
I'M ASSUMING WE GOING BOTH BID.
UH, AND THEN THERE AGAIN, WE DID TWO DOUBLE LAST YEAR.
NOW I THINK ONE GENTLEMAN HAS FOUR FIVE CANS.
ANOTHER GUY HAS, UH, SIX 10, BUT I THINK ALL LIKE ONE DRIVER EACH, UH, AND I'VE ENCOURAG THEM TO MAYBE DO AN ALTERNATE ITEM, YOU KNOW, BID SEPARATE OR WHATEVER.
WE MAKE SURE WE HAVE EVERYTHING COVERED.
DO YOU HAVE DO THE SECURITY FOR YOUR CANS OR OUTSIDE? UH, JUNE, UH, LIKE MAY BANK THAT, THAT'S, THEY WOULD BE LOCKED UP.
UH, OF COURSE WE LOCK THE ONE AT CAMP UP.
CRANDALL PD CIRCLES THAT UP UP THERE AND THEY TROUBLE ONE OR TWO SACKS ON THE GROUND, A BUNCH OF TIRE.
BUT YOU KNOW, THAT'S JUST WHAT YOU HAVE TO DEAL WITH.
UH, THEY, THEY RUN AN OFFICER BY THERE AND I THINK BY THE END OF THE DAY STUFF OUT, IF THEY DO, WE JUST DEAL WITH IT.
YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU GOT FOUR LOCATIONS, ALL YOU GUYS ARE BLESSED WITH JUST HAVING ONE OR YOU GOT FOUR.
IT MAKES A LOT OF DIFFERENCE JUST HAVING ONE.
SO I APPRECIATE FOR TAKING ON TWO LOCATIONS, JUDGE.
THAT'D BE, YOU KNOW, IF THE SHERIFF CAN GET TRUSTEES IN THAT AREA, THEY FORGET THAT HE'S, I'LL VOLUNTEER THE SHERIFF TO ACTUALLY BE DOWN THERE AND SELL
WRITE DOWN, UH, JACK ON ITEM NUMBER 19 HERE, DO WE, UH, DO YOU NEED US TO GO AHEAD AND APPROVE THAT OR, UH, YOU, WE, WE'VE GOT DISCUSSED AND CONSIDER, UH, YOU HAVE
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THE AUTHORITY, I THINK, AS PURCHASING AGENT TO DO THAT.I, I JUST REALLY WANT TO LET YOU GUYS KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON.
AND I DON'T THINK WE NEED TAKE ANY ACTION.
ALL I APPRECIATE EVERYBODY AND I COMMEND THE COMMUNITY OF ELMO.
UH, I GO THROUGH ELMO, I'M, I DON'T MY FARMS THAT CAUSE SWITCH, SO, WHICH IS A SUBURB OF ELMO
UH, I APPRECIATE THE EFFORTS THAT DEFINED FOLKS AT ELMO ARE DOING TO, UH, IMPROVE THAT COMMUNITY, THE CRIME WATCH EFFORTS AND ALL THAT THAT MAKES FOR A BETTER COMMUNITY.
AND I KNOW YOU'VE GOT A, A GOOD, UH, YOU'VE GOT SOME GOOD SUPPORT DOWN THERE AND THAT'S VERY, VERY, VERY GOOD BRIDGE.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR BEING HERE THIS MORNING.
NOW WE'VE SKIPPED AROUND HERE LITTLE BIT, BUT WE'RE MAKING PROGRESS.
WE NEED A MOTION NOW ON ITEM NUMBER THREE TO EXIT THE REGULAR MEETING AND ENTER INTO A PUBLIC HEARING.
SO WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER MAIN.
DO WE HAVE A SECOND? UH, COMMISSIONER ROSA.
SO, UH, THE PUBLIC HEARING TODAY IS TO RECEIVE INPUT FROM THE PUBLIC REGARDING NOT ALLOWING THROUGH COMMERCIAL TRUCKS ON PORTIONS OF RA ROAD AND PRECINCT ONE AND HAMS TRAIL AND PRECINCT ONE AND TWO IN CAMAN COUNTY, AND PLACING NO THROUGH COMMERCIAL TRUCKS, UH, SIGNS ON RA ROAD AND HAMS TRAIL.
THESE OBVIOUSLY WOULD BE A PRECINCT ONE AND TWO.
WE HAVE FOLLOWED THE PROCEDURES.
WE HAVE PUT A PUBLIC NOTICE IN THE NEWSPAPER.
AND SO THAT LEGAL REQUIREMENT HAS BEEN MET.
UH, NOW I'D OPEN THE, UH, COMMENTS UP.
IF THERE'S ANYONE HERE TODAY THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE PUBLIC HEARING ON, UH, LIMITING, UH, THESE TWO ROADS TO KNOW THROUGH COMMERCIAL TRUCKS, NOW'S YOUR TIME TO COME FORWARD.
DO WE HAVE ANYBODY THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK REGARDING ITEM NUMBER FOUR? DO WE HAVE ANYBODY HERE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK REGARDING ITEM NUMBER FOUR? AND FINALLY, DO WE HAVE ANYBODY HERE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK REGARDING ITEM NUMBER FOUR? IF NOT, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO EXIT THE PUBLIC HEARING.
SO MAY, UH, WE HAVE A MOTION FROM, UH, COMMISSIONER MANNING.
DO WE HAVE A SECOND? COMMISSIONER SHANE.
UH, WE WILL NOW ENTER BACK INTO REGULAR SESSION AND DISCUSS ITEM NUMBER SIX.
AND THAT IS TO CONSIDER, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER NOT ALLOWING THROUGH COMMERCIAL TRUCKS ON PORTIONS OF ROAD IN PRECINCT ONE AND AMS TRAIL IN PRECINCT ONE AND TWO IN CAMAN COUNTY AND PLACING NO THROUGH COMMERCIAL TRUCK SIGNS ON HI ROAD AND AMS TRAIL.
GENTLEMEN, WHAT'S YOUR PLEASURE? MOTION? OKAY, WE HAVE A MOTION FROM UH, COMMISSIONER ROSA.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY A.
THOSE OPPOSED? UH, I BELIEVE WE'VE ALREADY CONCLUDED ITEM NUMBER EIGHT.
UH, SO NOW WE'RE DOWN TO, I BELIEVE, UNLESS I'VE MISSED SOMETHING, GUYS.
KATHY, THANK YOU FOR ENDURING OUR LONG MEETING THIS MORNING.
BUT WE ANXIOUSLY AWAKENED YOUR REPORT.
AND, AND IT'LL BE REALLY QUICK.
WELL, MARCH, UM, WE HAD 21 TOTAL SEPTIC SYSTEM PERMITS AND BY PRECINCT, PRECINCT ONE WE HAD 11.
PRECINCT THREE HAD NINE, PRECINCT FOUR HAD ONE.
THERE WERE 86 COMPLAINTS INVESTIGATED BEFORE, NO MAINTENANCE CONTRACTS.
AND THERE WERE 23 MAINTENANCE PROVIDER VIOLATIONS BY PRECINCT THAT BREAKS DOWN THE PRECINCT.
1 36, PRECINCT TWO HAD 23, PRECINCT THREE HAD 21 AND PRECINCT 4 41 CASES FILED.
WE HAVE 51 CASES FILED FOR NO MAINTENANCE CONTRACT, ZERO FOR MALFUNCTIONING.
THOSE THAT WERE INVESTIGATED IN MARCH, THEY HAVE 30 DAYS TO COMPLY SO THEY DON'T COMPLY THAT WE FILED ONE IN APRIL THAT'S NOT UNDER ZERO.
AND THE MAINTENANCE PROVIDER VIOLATIONS OVER 27 COURT CASES BY PRECINCT.
ONE HAVE 14 PRECINCT TWO HAVE 14 PRECINCT THREE HAD 13 PRECINCT, FOUR HAVE 10.
AND IT LOOKS LIKE ABOUT TO PUT DOWN ON THE SITE VISIT FOLLOW UP THERE WERE, I DON'T REMEMBER, REPORT ABOUT TWO AND HALF, THREE WEEKS AGO.
WE HAD A TOTAL OF 22 ADDRESSES.
PRECINCT ONE HAD FIVE PRECINCT TWO HAD FOUR PRECINCT, THREE HAD SEVEN PRECINCT FOUR HAD SIX.
WE STILL DON'T HAVE A GI IS REPORT, BUT THE NEW GUY IS IN THE PROCESS OF HIRING, I THINK THREE PEOPLE THAT HE HAD TO HIRE.
AND I WAS TALKING TO LEAN BEFORE THE MEETING STARTED, SHE SAID WE'RE IN EXCELLENT, EXCELLENT SHAPE.
ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF UH, KATHY AND HER REPORT? I DO.
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THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S STUCK WITH ME A LONG TIME.I REALIZE THAT WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF MAINTENANCE PROVIDERS IN THIS COUNTY, RIGHT? DIDN'T YOU SAY WE ACTUALLY DO HAVE, UH, PROBABLY DO YOU WANT MAINTENANCE PROVIDERS TOTAL IN THERE? WHAT, LIKE FIVE OR SIX THERE? THEY'RE REALLY ABOUT SIX OR SEVEN THAT ARE ACTUALLY REPUTABLE AND DO THE BUSINESS THE WAY THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO.
AND THERE'S PROBABLY A TOTAL OF ANOTHER 0.5 THAT WE HAVE ISSUES WITH.
THE QUESTION, MY QUESTION IS, IS FOR A COUNTY THIS SIZE IS THE NUMBER OF COMPLAINTS, UH, VERSUS OTHER COUNTIES OF COURSE.
UH, IS IS IT COMPARABLE? YEAH, IT IS.
I I TALK TO THE, THE DR IN HUNT COUNTY ALL THE TIME.
SO THERE, SO IN OTHER WORDS, THE REST OF THESE COUNTIES AROUND AREN'T HAVING FIVE COMPLAINTS.
VERSUS OUR NO 86 OR SEVEN, NO.
WOULD IT BE BENEFICIAL FOR US TO, SINCE WE ARE SUCH A T LAND, WHAT I CALL A T LAND, T COUNTY WHERE THERE'S NO PERCOLATION AND ALL THAT STUFF, WOULD IT BE BENEFICIAL TO US TO POSSIBLY SOLICIT SOME MORE OF THESE MAINTENANCE PROVIDERS? IN OTHER WORDS, MAINTENANCE PROVIDERS CAN COME FROM ANYWHERE IN THE STATE, BUT THE THING WITH THE MAINTENANCE PROVIDERS, IT GETS INTO THE ECONOMICS OF THEIR BUSINESS, RIGHT? 'CAUSE THEY HAVE TO DO THE THREE VISITS A YEAR ONCE QUARTER.
UM, IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE FOR SOMEBODY TO COME FROM THE OTHER SIDE OF FORT WORTH OVER HERE TO DO MAINTENANCE.
OKAY? A LOT OF TIMES IF YOU'VE GOT AN INSTALLER THAT'LL COME AND DO AN INSTALLATION IN THIS COUNTY, THEY'LL HAVE ALREADY CONTRACTED WITH SOMEBODY THAT WORKS IN THIS COUNTY, DO THE MAINTENANCE.
'CAUSE THEY DON'T WANT COME FROM FAR AWAY TO DO IT.
OKAY? SO THAT'S, WE'RE KIND OF LIMITED AT THIS POINT IS THE ECONOMICS OF THINGS.
THEM SPENDING GAS MONEY, THEY WANNA DO IT.
I'D NOT POINT OUT, I'M NOT ASK FOR ANY QUESTIONS, JUST WANT POINT THIS OUT HOW GOOD A JOB THEY'RE DOING.
KIND OF LIKE WHAT YOU JUST ASKED TOM IN THIS SHEET THAT WE ASK YOU TO DO A COUPLE, UH, POINTS AGO, IT'S VERY HELPFUL.
IF YOU LOOK AT THE NUMBER OF MAINTENANCE CONTRACT VIOLATIONS, THEY'RE GONE DOWN.
AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE NUMBER OF COMPLAINTS FILED, IT'S GOING UP.
AND SO I WANNA SAY THAT PUBLIC WORKS ARE DOING A MUCH BETTER JOB.
THE FOLKS DOING BETTER, THE MAINTENANCE GUYS ARE DOING A BETTER JOB TAKING CARE OF THEIR STUFF AND SET THEIR, THEIR COMPLAINT NUMBERS GOING UP.
THEY'RE DOING A BETTER JOB OF GETTING THESE CASE IN FRONT OF THE COURT.
WE'VE GOT SOME CHRONIC MAINTENANCE PROVIDERS THAT, YOU KNOW, I TRY TO WORK WITH THEM BECAUSE I UNDERSTAND THEY HAVE ISSUES.
IT'S LIKE A MOM AND POP THING, BUT AT SOME POINT WE CUT THAT OFF AND TELL THE JUDGE.
SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE STARTING TO FILE MORE AND MORE VIOLATIONS AGAINST THE MAINTENANCE PROVIDERS THEMSELVES.
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER MARK AND A SECOND FROM THE COMMISSIONER ON MANNING TO ACCEPT THE PUBLIC WORKS REPORT.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
ITEM NUMBER 17 IS TO HEAR FROM THE AUDITOR ON THE MONTHLY REPORT FOR MARCH, 2014.
UH, GENTLEMEN, I THINK I ALREADY PUT YOUR REPORT OUT THERE EARLIER THIS MORNING, RIGHT? COURT, UM, WE'RE THE BENCHMARK OF SIX MONTHS, WHICH WE SHOULD BE AT 50%.
UM, GENERAL FUNDING IS AT 85.54% OF THEIR REVENUES AND THEIR EXPENDITURES ARE AT 48, WHICH IS WAY BELOW THE, NOT WAY BELOW, BUT 2% OF THE 50 BENCHMARK ROAD BRIDGE IS SITTING AT ABOUT 78% COLLECTION IN 76% IN TRANSFERS TO THE REGULAR
AND THEN YOU CAN SEE YOUR INDIVIDUAL REVENUES AND TRANSFERS IN AND YOUR EXPENDITURES, UH, YOUR TRANSFERS AND REVENUES ARE AT 62% IN YOUR EXPENDITURES ARE 36%.
LOOKS LIKE, UH, ON THE OFFICIAL FEES ON REVENUE'S PART, WE ARE, UH, CONSIDERABLY LOW.
WE'RE, I MEAN WE'RE NOT AT AT 50% FOR SURE.
AND ON OTHER FEES, WHICH IS A SMALLER NUMBER OF COURSE IT'S UH, ONLY ABOUT 16%.
SO THAT'S SOMETHING WE'RE REALLY GONNA HAVE TO, UH, GET ON TOP OF AND LOOK AT AND SEE WHERE WE'RE THE OTHER FEES, UH, THAT YOU'RE SPEAKING OF.
JUDGE WOOD, THOSE HAVE TO DO WITH, UH, JURY FEES.
UH, THE COUNTY'S PORTION OF THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE FEES, THE COUNTY'S PART OF DPS FEES, NON FORFEITURE SETTLEMENTS AND UH, OF COURSE COURT INITIATED SUPPLEMENTS IN, UM, CHILD ABUSE, SHOP, CHILD SAFETY AND AUTO.
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IN YOUR OFFICIAL FEES ARE ORIGINALLY BUS BUDGETED AT 3.2 MILLION.WE WE'RE A LITTLE BIT BELOW THE 50%, BUT WE'RE, YOU KNOW, SOME OF IT'S COMING UP THAT CAUSE OF PRIMARILY THE, UH, FINES IN THE JP OFFICE.
UH, YES SIR, THAT HAS TO DO ALSO, UM, WITH THE, THE SUPPLEMENTS THAT COME IN.
UM, COUNTY CLERK SEEMS TO BE, UH, AHEAD ABOUT 10% OF OUR COLLECTIONS, UH, INCLUDES DISTRICT CLERK, UM, ATTORNEY, A LITTLE JUSTICE OF THE PEACE TIME PAYMENTS, DISTRICT ATTORNEY, TAX, ASSESSOR, COLLECTOR, CONSTABLES, SHERIFF AND COURT LAW, ALL THOSE.
AND THOSE ARE ALL THOSE DIFFERENT FEES THAT THE DIFFERENT OFFICIALS COLLECT.
WELL, WE'RE ABOUT WHAT, NEARLY UH, 6% BELOW WHERE WE SHOULD BE.
WE'LL HAVE TO REALLY KEEP AN EYE ON THAT BECAUSE THAT IS A PRETTY MAJOR SOURCE OF REVENUE FOR THE, FOR THE COUNTY.
ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? COMMENT YES SIR.
ON ROAD SIGNS, KAREN, UNDER THE ROAD BRIDGE.
SO COMMISSION SHOULD BE AWARE THAT I BELIEVE WE'VE AGREED TO 25% OF THAT $27,000 IS TO BUY YOUR ROAD SIZE AND WE'VE ONLY GOT THE SMALL EXPENDITURE OF OUR SIZE.
I'M ASSUMING THAT YOU MAY BE BUYING YOUR ROADSIDE MATERIAL OUTTA YOUR OWN BUDGET.
YOU'VE GOT, YOU'VE GOT ACCESS, YOU CAN ACCESS THIS TO 25%, THAT $27,000 FOR ROAD SIGNS.
IS THAT CORRECT? UH, I THINK KATHY'S ALREADY LEFT, BUT HER DEPARTMENT IS THE ONE THAT WORKS WITH THE COMMISSIONERS ON THE ROAD SIGNS.
I KNOW WE HAD AN ISSUE LAST YEAR AND UM, WE HAD TO GO THROUGH LIKE WHERE THE POSTS CAME FROM, WHEN THE ATTACHMENTS CAME FROM AND THE DIFFERENT THINGS.
'CAUSE WHEN, UM, COMMISSIONER ROSALA CAME IN TO PRECINCT ONE, HE WAS REALLY TRYING TO CLEAN IT UP AND GET THINGS IN ORDER WHERE EVERYBODY KNEW WHAT WHAT WAS WHAT.
AND UM, WE HAD TO GO THROUGH THAT AND MOVE SOME EXTRA MONEY AND FIX THOSE THINGS.
BUT KATHY USUALLY WORKS REALLY CLOSE WITH THE COMMISSIONERS ON WHAT SIGNS THEY NEED.
I DID MISSICK ON THAT BECAUSE PART OF THAT MONEY IS UNDER HER CONTROLLED BUY THINGS THAT SHE HAS TO DO MAKE SIGNS FOR US WITH THE SIGN MACHINE, THE MATERIALS.
AND IF YOU REMEMBER, SO SHE CAN, THE LAST SHE, SHE CAN FURNISH US WITH 25% OF THE METAL MONEY SHE'S GOT THERE.
WELL AND IF YOU REMEMBER LAST BUDGET SHE BROUGHT UP THAT THE MACHINE WAS REALLY OLD AND IT WOULD COST ABOUT FIVE, $6,000 TO FIND ANOTHER ONE.
IS SHE, UH, YOU KNOW, SHE'S NOT MAKING, SHE WAS, SHE HAS BEEN.
WE WERE TOLD THAT THE PUBLIC WORKS WAS NOT MAKING ANY, SO AT SOME POINT WE NEED TO LOOK AT DIVIDING POSSIBLY THAT 27,000.
JUST GO AHEAD AND DIVIDE IT UP A ROAD SIGN BUDGET.
I THINK IT BE MUCH SIMPLER PROCESS.
PUBLIC WORKS IS NOT, I THINK THEY'RE MAKING JUST DISCRE SIGNS, IS THAT CORRECT? I DON'T THINK THEY EVEN MADE STREET SIGNS FOR US THAT THEY'D MAKE A FEW FOR ME.
HANGING TREE THAT THAT LEAVES EVERY WEEK.
WAS THERE ANY MORE QUESTIONS? OKAY.
I HAVE A MOTION TO UH, ACCEPT THE, UH, LET SEE I MAY, THE AUDITORS REPORT.
I'LL GIVE IT OUT HERE IN A SECOND.
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM MR. MANNING.
SECOND FROM MR TO ACCEPT THE AUDITOR'S REPORT.
SO BOTH ITEM NUMBER 18 ALREADY HERE, UH, MS. RA, BUT YOU'RE GONNA JUMP
OKAY, WE ARE LOOKING AT TRYING TO COLLECT 28.5 MILLION THIS YEAR.
WE HAVE COLLECTED A DATE, 26.9 MILLION.
THIS LAST MONTH WE COLLECTED $532,582 FOR THE COUNTY AND $79,977 FOR ROAD AND BRIDGE.
WE DID NOT HAVE ANY ROLLBACK TAXES THIS MONTH.
ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTION FOR OUR TAX ASSESSOR COLLECTOR? ALRIGHT, WE HAVE A MOTION FOR COMMISSIONER SHANE TO ACCEPT THE REPORT.
UH, COMMISSIONER EK ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
AND UH, ITEM NUMBER 20 IS, UH, WHO IS THE SECOND
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ON? SHE DIDN'T HEAR THAT.UH, ITEM NUMBER 20 IS TO DISCUSS LINE ITEM TRANSFERS.
AND I BELIEVE WE HAVE A COPY OF THAT TO ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? THERE'S QUITE A LINE TRANSFERS.
I WANNA MAKE SURE I ANSWER ALL YOUR QUESTIONS.
BUDGET IN THERE, THE REPAYMENT OR THE NET LOAN AND NEED TO TRANSFER IT TO THE ONE ITEMS THAT YOU REQUESTED.
UM, THAT WAY IT'S IN YOUR BUDGETS.
AND THEN THE NEXT ONE IS, UM, CLOSE TRAINING FUND THAT THEY RECEIVE FROM THE STATE COMPTROLLER'S OFFICE EVERY YEAR WHEN THEY TAKE THE CHECKS IN, THEY ASK DO IT BE RECEIPTED AGAINST THEIR EXPENDITURE LINE ITEM.
WE HAVE TO PUT IT IN REVENUE, INCREASE THE REVENUE AND INCREASE EXPENDITURE SO THEY CAN USE IT FOR TRAINING.
AND THEN THE UH, OKAY, EVERYBODY GOT THIS ONE? THESE ARE MINE TRANSFERS.
UM, I THINK THE MAJOR ONE IS TO, UH, INCREASE THE MOBILE RADIOS, UH, IN THE SHERIFF'S FUND AND LOWER HIS, UH, SALARY AND DEPUTIES BECAUSE HE NEEDED SOME RADIOS.
UH, ON THE OTHER BIG ONES ARE THE ROAD BRIDGES.
THIS HAS TO DO WITH THE, UH, SALE OF, UH, SOME DUMP TRUCKS AND BUYING SOME NEW DUMP TRUCKS ON A BUYBACK PLAN.
YOU'VE GOT THAT ON UNDER, UM, ROAD BRIDGE ONE OPERATING LEASES.
WOULD THAT BE CONSIDERED LEASE THAT BUYBACK PROGRAM? NO SIR.
THAT'S WHY I'M GLAD YOU ASKED THAT QUESTION.
YOU DON'T OWN THAT EQUIPMENT AT ANY TIME.
YOU SHOULD GIVE IT BACK UNLESS YOU DECIDE TO PAY FEE OUTRIGHT BACK NOTE BUY BACK.
SO IT'S CONSIDERED AN OPERATING LEASE, AN OPERATING EXPENDITURE.
IN PRINCIPLE, IT'S ALL CONSIDERED INTEREST BECAUSE YOU DON'T OWN THE I PROBABLY DID.
DID WE NEVER GET A TITLE FOR THEM? WELL, TO, TO REGISTER, BUT IT, BUT IT'S, UH, YOU'RE NOT, YOU'RE NOT PAYING THE WHOLE TRUCK OFF YOU.
WELL, NOT REALLY, BECAUSE THE REASON THEY'RE ABLE TO GIVE US THOSE TRUCKS AT THAT PRICE IS BECAUSE THEY'RE SELLING A USED TRUCK THAT HAS BEEN SOLD.
THE NEXT BUYER DOESN'T PAY THE FT ON THAT TRUCK BECAUSE IT'S ALREADY BEEN SOLD ONCE.
I THINK WE NEED TO LOOK INTO THAT.
UM, MS. JONES HERE, LOOK INTO WHAT THAT BEING CLASSIFIED AS A LEASE VERSUS A PURCHASE.
UM, THIS CAME FROM THE OUTSIDE AUDITORS THAT IT NEEDED TO BE RECORDED BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT KEEPING THE VEHICLE YOU ARE, UH, ANYTHING CONSIDERED A YEAR OR LESS IS CONSIDERED OPERATING AND YOU'RE ONLY KEEPING 'EM FOR 12 MONTHS.
AND THAT'S WHY THEY TOLD ME TO RECLASSIFY IN THE AUDIT THAT YOU'RE GONNA GET IN MAY.
I HAD TO RECLASSIFY SOME OF THESE 'CAUSE OF THAT.
SO I WAS JUST GONNA DO IT NOW AND NOT HAVE TO DO IT AGAIN.
WELL IF THAT'S THE LEGAL WAY, THAT'S THAT'S ME.
BUT MOTIVATORS ARE BOUGHT THEN THE, I THINK ALL THE MOTIVATORS, WE CAPITAL THOSE, I'M NOT SURE WE TURN 'EM ALL BACK MOST TIMES BECAUSE A THREE YEAR LEASE PURCHASE, BUT IT IS A LEASE PURCHASE.
YEAH, THAT IS A LEASE PURCHASE.
SO OH, THAT IS A LEASE PURCHASE.
JUST OPTIONAL IS NOT YOU, YOU PAY FOR THE WHOLE 275,000 BUCKS.
WELL THAT'S WHY I'M THINKING IT IS A PURCHASE, NOT ABOUT, I'M NOT A LEASE.
IF YOU WERE LEASING IT, WE WOULDN'T BE OUT.
THAT WHOLE AMOUNT THAT WE'VE PAID FOR THE TRUCK, I THINK IT SHOWS UP ON THE AUDIT REPORT AS A LIABILITY.
IS THAT NOT CORRECT ON THE OUTSIDE LIABILITY BECAUSE YOU OWE THE MONEY, RIGHT? AND IF YOU, IF YOU WERE LEASING IT, YOU WOULDN'T OWE THE MONEY.
YOU WOULD HAVE A MONTHLY LEASE PAYMENT.
I, I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING WE NEED TO LOOK INTO JUST TO CLARIFY WHAT WE HAVE ON THAT MATCH
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CHECK WITH JOHN.AGAIN, IT MAKES NO DIFFERENCE TO ME, BUT I THINK, YOU KNOW, FOR OUR AUDIO PURPOSES.
BUT HE WAS PRETTY CLEAR ON THIS.
I MEAN HE TOLD YOU WHAT NEEDED TO BE DONE.
AND JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, BACK IN THE DAY, WE UH, BACK IN THE DAY WE PAID A MONTHLY, A MONTHLY BILL, UH, 900 A MONTH, WHATEVER, OFF ON THEIR RIGHT.
AND THEN THE LENDER SAID, HEY, IF YOU PREFER, RATHER THAN MAKE A MONTHLY PAYMENT, MAKE IT ONCE A YEAR.
SO, SO IT'S THE SAME, WE'RE BUYING THE SAME WAY BUT KIND PAYMENT.
WELL, BECAUSE WE, WE PAY FOR THE ENTIRE VEHICLE UP FRONT AND THEN WE PAY THE INTEREST ON IT.
SO WE DON'T, WE DON'T PAY FOR THE ENTIRE VEHICLE.
WHAT HAPPENS IS, YOU KNOW, WE GET MAC, YOU SENT US A CHECK FOR ORIGINAL, ORIGINAL COST OF TRUCK, LESS THE 9,015.
SO WHEN WE GET CHECK FROM MAC, WE PUT OUR CHECK, WHICH IS SIGNIFICANTLY LESS, MAYBE 15, 20 AND OUT THE TRUCK.
SO WE NEVER, WE'VE NEVER REALLY OWNED THE TRUCK, I GUESS.
OH, WE'VE NEVER PAID THAT ENTIRE AMOUNT OF THE TRUCK UP FRONT? NO.
WELL I GUESS I WAS CONFUSED BECAUSE THE MONEY CHANGED IN HANDS.
I THOUGHT IT WENT TO PURCHASE A TRUCK AND THEN WHEN WE GOT THE CHECK THAT WAS FOR THE PREVIOUS TRUCKS THAT WE HAD IN OUR CONDITION, WHEN I IN TWO THERE, I RECEIVED A CHECK FOR 6 42, WHICH IS FOR TWO OF YOUR DUMP TRUCKS FOR COMMISSIONER SHANE'S DUMP TRUCKS.
I'M FIXING TO TURN AROUND AFTER YOU GIVE PERMISSION.
I PAY ALL THIS AND THAT'S WHY I'M ASKING TO BE DONE.
WELL IT MAKES NO DIFFERENCE TO ME.
I WELL I'M WANT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION SO YOU UNDERSTAND BECAUSE IT'S IMPORTANT THAT YOU UNDERSTAND THIS IS YOUR BUDGET.
AND I'M GOING BY THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE OUTSIDE AUDITOR SAYING IF YOU ARE DOING SOMETHING THAT IS NOT A THREE YEAR, FIVE YEAR, SEVEN YEAR LEASE THAT WOULD RECORDED AS A LONG TERM ASSET IN THE THE 12 MONTH PAYMENT THAT YOU'D BE MAKING.
LIKE WE MAKE SOME THAT'S PRINCIPAL AND INTEREST ON YOUR FUND, THAT IS REQUIRED AS A LONG TERM LEASE.
THIS IS NOT, IT'S AN OPERATING LEASE AND THEY DON'T EVEN CONSIDER IT PAYING PRINCIPAL BECAUSE YOU'RE GONNA TURN THE MACHINE BACK.
AND JUST ONE MORE THING I HAVE TO ADD CLARIFICATION.
BACK IN THE DAY, I GUESS UP LAST YEAR, UH, WHEN THE PAYMENT CAME DUE, WE SENT THE, UH, 50 OR 20,000, UH, BANK OR I'M BACK.
WE SENT 15 TO $20,000 TO THE VENDOR AND MAC TRUCK SENT THEIR PORTION TO THE, SO THEY, THEY HAD TWO CHECKS GOING.
THEY HAD OUR CARS AND, AND WHAT MAC WAS FREE TO BUY BACK AT AND I GUESS LAST YEAR THE OUTSIDE OFFICER DIDN'T LIKE THAT EVERY YEAR BEFORE LAST.
THEY, THEY FELT LIKE THAT MAX SHOULD PAY US FIRST AND WE SHOULD WRITE ONE CHECK, UH, TO THE LENDER.
SO, SO IT'S MORE, I GUESS YOU TWO CHECK.
THAT'S WHY I THOUGHT WE OWN, WE NEVER OWNED IT.
IT'S, AND IT'S THE SAME AUDITING FIRM BUT TWO DIFFERENT FIELD OFFICER AND THEY'RE THE REASON I SET UP IN YOUR BUDGET, THE PRINCIPAL AND INTEREST PAYMENTS AND THEN SHE'S NO LONGER WITH HIM, SHE'S GONE SOMEWHERE ELSE.
AND THIS ONE SAID, WELL IF YOU'RE NOT GONNA KEEP THAT, WE NEED TO MOVE IT AS OPERATING LEASE.
SO THAT'S WHY I CREATED THOSE NINE ITEMS. UM, SO DID THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? YES MA'AM.
AND MAKE SURE THAT WHEN MR. MANNING IS HERE PRESENTING THE AUDIT THE LAST WEEK OF MAY, LAST MEETING OF MAY, PLEASE ASK THAT QUESTION SO YOU CAN GET A CLARIFICATION OF WHY HE WANTED THAT DONE THAT WAY.
UH, THE ONLY OTHER BIG ONE
UH, AND I WANTED TO UH, TO EXPLAIN TO YOU WHAT WE DID.
UH, WE HAD TO PAY THE BOND ISSUANCE COSTS, THE PHYSICAL AGENT FEES, UH, THE TRANSFER THE FUND 64 THAT I HAD TO ESTABLISH FOR THE FIRST DEBT PAYMENT, INTEREST PAYMENT THAT'LL BE DUE ON THIS, UH, $30 MILLION BOND ISSUE.
UH, WE HAD TO PAY BOND INSURANCE.
I WANTED TO REIMBURSE THE MAIN ROAD BRIDGE FROM THE NET COG LOAN OF THE A HUNDRED THOUSAND $900,911.
THEN, UM, ACCORDING TO UM, THE AGREEMENT, ALL FOUR ROAD BRIDGES, THE FIRST
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30 MILLION GOT 400,000 AND I'VE ESTABLISHED YOU A LINE ITEM WHERE YOU COULD SPEND THAT.THEN I HAD TO ESTABLISH THE LINE ITEM FOR THE FUTURE THAT YOU GET BECAUSE UPFRONT YOU GET THE WHOLE MILLION DOLLARS IN EACH PRECINCT.
SO I WANTED TO SET THAT ASIDE.
SO THIS FIRST YEAR YOU'RE GETTING 400,000, THE NEXT BOND ISSUE YOU GET 300,000 AND THEN THE LAST BOND ISSUE YOU GET THE OTHER 3 MILLION.
DOES THAT EXPLAIN OR YOU GOT THE QUESTIONS OF WHY IT DID IT THAT WAY? I THOUGHT WE STARTED DO IT TWO 50 A YEAR FOR FOUR YEARS, BUT THAT GOOD? WELL THE REASON WE WENT AHEAD AND DID 400, WE SOLD, YOU KNOW, WE SOLD 30 MILLION.
IT ACTUALLY WE'RE GONNA SELL A SMALLER AMOUNT, BUT WE SOLD A LARGER AMOUNT BECAUSE WE WANTED TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE LOWER INTEREST RATES.
PLUS WE HAD SOME CITIES PEOPLE THAT WERE REALLY WANTING TO, YOU KNOW, CHOMPING OUT THE BIDS TO GET, UH, STARTED ON SOME STUFF.
AND SO WE STILL CAN COME BACK AND THIS, UH, I MEAN WE STILL PROBABLY WILL HAVE TWO, TWO MORE ISSUES, BUT WE DID THE 30 MILLION WOULDN'T GET THE MONEY SO IT'LL BE AVAILABLE.
SO YOU KNOW, YOU GUYS CAN START USING IT.
SO IS THIS 600,000 IN THE FUTURE? THAT'S NOT IN THE FIRST BOND SALE? YEAH, IT IS.
IT IT'S THE FIRST, IT'S MONEY THAT'S SET ASIDE.
IT'S STILL MONEY, BUT IT'S SET ASIDE FOR YOU TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, BUT WE WE'VE ALREADY BOUGHT IT.
WE JUST CAN'T USE IT UNTIL NEXT YEAR.
YEAH, BECAUSE WE DIDN'T THINK YOU COULD USE IT.
WELL YEAH, BUT IT'S NOT JUST, I MEAN IT'S IN HERE.
SO YOU'LL LOOK TO BIGMAN, UH, THAT'S SITTING THERE THAT SAYS RD BOND CONSTRUCTION OF THE 25 20 6 MILLION I WANTED EXPLAIN HOW THAT'S GONNA WORK.
YOU HAVE 16, 17 PROJECTS THAT THIS MONEY'S SUPPOSED TO COVER.
I'M NOT PUTTING IT IN THE SEPARATE LINE ITEMS WHEN THEY BRING IT AND IT'S APPROVED BY UM, JOHN STER BY THE, AND THEN HE COURT, THE COURT APPROVED.
WELL I KNOW, BUT HE'S GONNA REVIEW IT FIRST AND APPROVE HIS AND SIGN OFF AND YES, THIS WORK WAS DONE AND COMPLETED AND HE AGREES WITH THE PRICE THAT IT'S GONNA BE PRESENTED TO THE COURT FOR YOUR APPROVAL TO PAY IT.
THEN WE'LL MOVE THOSE MONIES OUT OF THE BIG ONE TO COVER EACH ONE OF THOSE DIFFERENT PROJECTS.
I THINK JOHN'S WORKING WITH THAT NOW.
I THINK HE'S GOT A COUPLE OF CITIES THAT WANT PAUSE RIGHT NOW.
SO ANYBODY HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? DID I EXPLAIN THAT GOOD ENOUGH WHERE, YOU KNOW WHAT WE'RE DOING, THE COST OF THE DUMP TRUCKS, I'M TRYING TO GET THIS EASY TO FIGURE OUT SINCE YOU GOT TWO OF THEM ON ROAD BRIDGE ONE, UH, THE SALE EQUIPMENT, I SEE WHAT THAT IS.
IS THE ACTUAL COST OF THE DUMP TRUCKS, THE OPERATING LEASE MINUS THE TWO 14 OR IS IT MINUS TWO PLUS 30 PLUS 34 8? UM, NO SIR.
THE ACTUAL COST OF THE TWO DUMP TRUCKS IS THE 2 36 MINUS THE TWO 14.
BUT BECAUSE PAYOFF FOR THOSE TWO WHO GOT RID OF WAS SETTING IN LEASE PAYMENTS AND INTEREST, I WANTED TO TAKE THAT OUT OF THERE AND PUT IT BACK IN OPERATING.
SO WHEN HIS NOTES DO, I CAN PAY IT.
IT'S NOT CONSIDERED A LEASE AGREEMENT.
THIS IS EXPENDITURE, RIGHT? WHICH ONE? THE 30 NO SIR.
THAT IS REDUCING, UH, THE LEASE PAYMENT AND THE INTEREST IN MOVING IT TO THE PARADE.
YEAH, SO BECAUSE NEXT MONTH MAY, I WOULD'VE HAD TO PAY A ANNUAL PAYMENT ON HIS 30,000 FROM INTEREST AND I'D HAVE TO PAY, I CAN'T REMEMBER WHAT IT WAS ON HIS 37 5 83.
DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION?
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WE HAVE A, UM, A GUARANTEED BUYBACK FROM ON THE, OKAY.ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT BUYBACK? NO, THEY, WE DON'T.
MOST TIME THEY NEED THEM BY 2000 HOURS.
OTHER QUESTIONS ON, UH, ITEM NUMBER 20 ON LINE ITEM TRANSFER EXTRA 5,000 BACK AND WE THAT MACHINE.
SO, AND THEN A MOTION TO UH, THANK YOU UH, COMMISSIONER SHANE MAKES A MOTION.
ITEM NUMBER 21 IS TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER PAYING, UH, PLAN FOR PAYMENT.
ALRIGHT GENTLEMEN, I'M GLAD EVERYBODY SITTING PAY THIS IS, UH, THREE WEEK BILLS PLUS PAYMENT IN THOSE DUMP TRUCKS THAT WE JUST GOT RID OF.
THE REASON I COULDN'T WRITE THE CHECKS TO PAY FOR THOSE DUMP IS BECAUSE I DIDN'T HAVE LINE ITEM APPROVE THOSE.
SO THIS IS A SPECIAL CLAIM THAT'S INCLUDED IN THAT.
I THINK HE AND GEORGIA WALKED OUT.
YOU MEAN YOU GOT SOME BACK CLEANING IN YOUR SHOP? NO,
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UNDERNEATH THE PUT DUST THERE UP PICK UP DIRT ABOUT IT? I DON'T THINK SO.I MEAN YOU CAN WHO THIS GUY KEN, WAYNE BEEN BEEN ON DRAIN, IT'S ON YOUR BOND PLACED ON THE DOOR LOCKS THE JAIL.
UH, THAT'S KIND OF A, JUST A PIECE OF TIME.
AREN'T THEY HERE JUST FOR LIKE A FOURTH OF IT OR? UH, I'M NOT SURE.
BILL, WE'RE LET EXPLAIN TO YOU HOW THAT'S WORKING.
UH, WE DID A BUDGET AMENDMENT OR LINE ITEM TRANSFER FOR LAST 2013.
JACK ISSUED A PO BECAUSE WE DIDN'T RECEIVE THE PRODUCT OF THE SERVICE IN TIME.
THE OUTSIDE AUDITORS MAY BE RECORDED IN 2014, SO WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO FIND SOME MORE MONEY AS THE PROJECTS GET DONE.
WE PAID, WHAT WAS IT, 44,000, 48,000 OUTTA THE OLD 2013 THAT WERE STILL LIKE 63, 60 4,000 LEFT.
REMEMBER IT WAS LIKE HUNDRED 19,000, SOMETHING LIKE THAT TO GET THAT POD REPAIRED.
AND THE PROBLEM IS THEY'RE HAVING TO ORDER THE PARTS AND PUT TOGETHER TO BUILD THE SECURITY THING TO INSTALL AND THAT'S WHAT'S TAKEN SO LONG TO RECEIVE THE SERVICE AND THE PRODUCT.
SO WE'RE KIND OF GONNA HAVE TO STAGGER THOSE PAYMENTS.
SO WE HAD TO COVER, BUT WE HAD THE MONEY IN LAST YEAR BUDGET.
THEY WOULD NOT LEMME CARRY IT OVER.
SO WE WENT BACK TO GENERAL FOOD.
BUT WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN? THEY MADE US ALSO FINAL PAY ON COMMON LAWSUIT.
IT WAS 200 SOMETHING THOUSAND IF Y'ALL REMEMBER Y'ALL LET ME DIVIDE IT AND I PAID SEPTEMBER A HALF OF IT AND THEN DECEMBER PAID THE REMAIN WAS 200 SOMETHING THOUSAND.
THAT MAY RECORDED ALL LAST YEAR AS Y'ALL RECEIVED.
BUT WE BUDGETED FOR 120 SOMETHING THOUSAND THIS YEAR THAT WILL NOT, YOU KNOW, WILL BE NOT, WE'LL NOT SPEND.
SO WHO ARE THE FRIENDS OF KAUFMAN COUNTY? IT'S WHAT FUND IS THAT? UH, THAT IS TO DO GO DOWN THAT ROAD.
YOU REMEMBER? I REMEMBER THE ONE PHASE.
IT WAS ONE POD AND THEN THEY WERE DOING POD FEES IN THIS BUDGET.
SO THERE'S PROBABLY GOING TO BE ENOUGH FOR THAT LAST PAYMENT AND THEN WE'LL HAVE TO BUDGET THE REST OF IT.
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I YOUR UNTIL ABOUT WE GET ANY COMMENT FACTS, JUDGES READY TO GO COURT SCHEDULE DISCUSSED, IMPLEMENT THAT.ANY DISCUSSIONS? WELL, THEY DISCUSSED I'VE OKAY, EAST TEXAS MEDICAL FROM 33 I SIGNED YET.
WE DON'T GET THE INVOICE WITH THE NAMES ON IT, DO WE? THAT'S IS THAT THING, I DON'T THINK WE PAY THAT MUCH FOR EMPLOYEES COVERAGE, YOU KNOW, FOR THAT'S DESIRE.
SO THIS IS FOR MY PATIENT 37TH INDIGENT.
BECAUSE THE DATE OF IT SIR? YEAH, APRIL THE SEVENTH THROUGH APRIL THE SEVENTH WE RECEIVED IT.
APRIL THEY HAD, I DON'T REMEMBER WHEN THIS OCCURRED.
HAD A LADY, UH, FROM FIRST CARRIED TO THE PRESBYTERIAN, THEN THEY RELEASED HER, CARRIED HER BACK OUT JAIL HOSPITAL.
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SERIOUS, DOES THAT COME FROM YES.I THINK YOU'RE WORKING ON THAT COMMISSIONER.
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SURE.WE SOME OF THESE ALREADY HERE? I DON'T THINK SO.
THIS IS THE OPENING ABOUT THE POSTPONE WHATEVER THEY CALL BACK.
THEN THE DEAD FINALLY SAYS, WE FIND OUT, YOU FIND WHERE YOUR FRIENDS IN COUNTY FROM.
DO WHAT? DID YOU FIND OUT WHERE YOUR FRIENDS COUNTY WERE FROM? DID HISTORICAL SOCIETY.
SO THEY'RE NOT YOUR FRIEND? THEY'RE NOT.
I TRY TO STAY FRIENDS WITH ALL THEM.
YOU GOTTA, YOU GOTTA STAY THOSE BY THE BARREL.
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IF YOU DON'T WORLDWIDE CANINE SIR.I'VE BEEN THERE, SPENT ON, I NEVER HEARD THAT.
AND THAT WHAT, 15 YEARS? WELL I, I CHANGE, THERE'S ONE OF THEM I THINK GOT ONE NAME, GOSPEL WON'T NEED IT.
I CHECKED DO, WELL I I DON'T THINK BRIAN
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GOT AVIC AND A CHARGER.MAYBE ROTATE THE USE OF IT KNOWLEDGE OFF.
THAT'S NOT, THAT'S NOT A VERY GOOD SCENARIO.
THREE DAYS IN MY OPINION THERE'S NO NEED FOR THREE CARS.
I GUESS WE TRANSFER TO UH, BETTER TO TRANSFER TO SURPLUS.
WHAT IF THE NEW CONSTABLE SURPLUS WOULD, WHAT IF THE NEW CONSTABLE, IF HE KNOWS HE GOT THREE, HE'S GOT PLANS FOR WHETHER HE THINK HE'S GOT THE MONEY OR NOT.
I TELL YOU, I THINK WHEN WE SEE IT, WAS IT ON YOUR INVOICE? IS IT, UH, I DIDN'T, WE CAN CHANGE, WE TRANSFERRED OVER KNOW THAT THEY MAY BE LOOKING FOR MONEY FOR A THIRD CAR.
NEXT WHAT, 3, 4, 6 MONTHS? LOOKS LIKE THE COURT NEEDS TO WE IT UP, YOU KNOW, IT'S TWO PUT THEN YOU CAN DO WITH IT.
THEN YOU DO VERY REPLACE TIMES A WEEK.
CUT OFF RADIO RUNS ALL THE TIME.
SO ARE WE READY TO MOVE ON THAT? WE HAVE MOTION TO PAY THE BILLS.
DO I HAVE A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER MANNING MADE THE MOTION TO PAY THE BILLS.
UH, THAT, UH, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? A MOTION TO CAN WE ADJOURN? YOU SHOULD KEEP DOING THAT.
MR. COMMISSIONER LONG THANK YOU GUYS.