* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [00:00:05] WHEN THEY FIGURED IT OUT, YOU KNOW, WHEN THEY, THEY DIDN'T DENY THEY OWE IT AND SURE WE'LL PAY IT. OH, MOST PEOPLE NEVER DENY THEY OWE IT. OH, EVEN WITH US, THEY JUST SAW, OH, THEY KNOW. THEY USED TO CRIME CRY. UHHUH . WELL, I HAVE TO SAY THIS 'CAUSE I WOULDN'T WANT TO OFFEND ANY LAWYERS WHEN THEY GET INVOLVED. EVERYBODY. I JUST WANT, THIS IS THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE KAMAN COUNTY COMMISSIONER'S COURT ON MONDAY, APRIL THE 28TH. UH, AND WE'RE OF COURSE, LOCATED HERE AT, UH, SOUTH CAMPUS. WE HAVE A NUMBER OF ITEMS ON THE AGENDA TODAY, AND WE WILL, IF YOU, UH, WISH TO ADDRESS THE COURT. WE HAVE A SIGN IN SHEET HERE. UH, JOHN, IF YOU WANT TO COME ON UP, FIND A PLACE UP HERE CLOSE BY. WE'LL LET YOU SIT UP HERE WITH US. LET BE JOHN'S TARGET . UH, WE'LL BEGIN WITH OUR INVOCATION AND, UH, ASK COMMISSIONER MANNING TO DO THAT. AND THEN WE'LL HAVE THE PLEDGES TO BOTH ARE FLAGS. AND AGAIN, IF YOU'D LIKE TO ADDRESS THE COURT, WE HAVE A SIGN IN SHEET HERE. WE'VE ASKED THAT YOU, THAT YOU COMPLETE. SO IF YOU'LL STAND WITH ME, YOU'LL HAVE AN INVITATION. LET PRAY. MOST GRACE'S, FATHER, THANK YOU FOR THIS DAY. THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY FOR, UH, FOR THIS COURT GATHERING. DUE THE BUSINESS OF THE COUNTY. GIVE US STRENGTH AND WISDOM, LORD, TO MAKE THE BEST DECISIONS THAT WE CAN FOR OUR AS CITIZENS HERE. LORD, WE WOULD ASK YOU TO LOOK OVER THOSE PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN AFFECTED BY THE STORMS OVER THE WEEKEND UP NORTH. AND, UH, KEEP THEM IN YOUR HANDS AND KEEP THEM SAFE AS THEY, UH, SORT THROUGH THEIR, UH, UH, TRAUMA THAT THEY'VE HAD UP THERE. LORD, WE WOULD ASK YOU TO BLESS US WITH A LITTLE RAIN IF YOU CAN SEE FIT AND, UH, KEEP US ALL SAFE, UH, PROTECT OUR SOLDIERS OVERSEAS. AMEN. PLEDGE TO FLAG THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVIDUAL WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE, FRAUD, HONOR, TEXAS FLAG. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE TEXAS ONE STATE UNDER GOD ONE. AND IN THE BUSINESS. THANK YOU. NO SIGN. RIGHT. WE HAVE ONE ITEM UNDER, UH, ROUTINE CORRESPONDENCE THAT, UH, STEVE, UH, EY PRESENTED TO ME AND I WANTED YOU TO HAVE A COPY OF IT. AND IT IS, UH, UH, SOME SOMETHING THAT I'M REALLY PROUD OF THAT, UH, UH, OUR, UH, HAZARD MITIGATION PLAN THAT STEVE HAS BEEN WORKING ON FOR SOME TIME NOW. HE'S INVOLVED A LOT OF, UH, UH, SCHOOL DISTRICTS OR A LOT OF PEOPLE INVOLVING IN THIS. AND WENT TO A MEETING THE OTHER DAY AND SAID THAT IN THERE'S ABOUT 1,030 SCHOOL DISTRICTS IN THE STATE AND THAT THERE WERE ONLY 10 THAT HAD, UH, PARTICIPATED IN PUTTING TOGETHER A HAZARD MITIGATION PLAN. AND SEVEN OF THOSE WERE IN COUNTY. SO I THINK THAT'S PRETTY NEAT. APPRECIATE EVERYBODY DOING THAT, STEVE. I APPRECIATE YOU WORKING WITH THEM TO GET THAT DONE. SO WE SHOULD, SHOULD TAKE NOTE OF THAT. UH, THE NEXT ITEM WOULD BE THE CONSENT AGENDA. WE HAVE, UH, FIVE ITEMS THERE. ONE WILL BE TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ALLOWING THE COMBINE WATER SUPPLY CORPORATION TO RUN A WATER LINE DOWN THE FAR ALTON ROAD, OF WHICH IS APPROXIMATELY A THOUSAND FEET TO TURN AND TO BORE UNDER FAR ALTON ROAD AND RUN ALONG HARLAN LANE, WHICH IS COUNTY ROAD 40 33 FOR APPROXIMATELY 1400 FEET. THAT'S IN PRECINCT FOUR. UH, ITEM B IS TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER CLAIMING THE WEEK OF MAY THE 12TH THROUGH MAY THE 16TH AS THE NATIONAL POLICE WEEK IN COFFMAN COUNTY. ITEM C IS TO CLIENT, UH, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER PROCLAIMING, UH, MAY THE 15TH, 2014 AS PEACE OFFICERS MEMORIAL DAY IN CAMAN COUNTY. ITEM D IS TO CONSIDER, UH, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER PROCLAIMING MAY THE NINTH AS LAW ENFORCEMENT APPRECIATION DAY AT COMAN COUNTY. AND THEN ITEM E IS TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER APPROVAL OF THE TAX RESALE OF, OF, UH, REFERENCE NUMBER A DASH 2 3 8, UH, CAUSE NUMBER 85 0 5 8 DASH 86, WHICH IS DESCRIBED AS BEING IN THE SPRINGS PART OF, UH, LOT 10, LOCATED AT 59 73 COUNTY ROAD 1 22 [00:05:01] B IN COLTON COUNTY PRECINCT ONE. UH, DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT ANY OF THOSE, UH, ITEMS? DO WE HAVE ANYONE HERE FROM THE, UH, UH, SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT OR THE DA'S OFFICE THAT WOULD LIKE TO COMMENT OR HAVE ANY COMMENTS ON THE, UH, LAW ENFORCEMENT, UH, APPRECIATION DAY AND THE PEACE OFFICERS MEMORIAL DAY? WE HAVE A RESOLUTION HERE AND WE'LL SIGN THOSE AND PRESENT IT. BUT IF ANYBODY'S HERE THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE COURT ABOUT THAT, YOUR HONOR, UH, MY CO'S HERE, OUR CHIEF INVESTIGATOR. OKAY, MIKE, IF YOU, UH, OF COURSE, THE SHERIFF'S HERE AND THE SHERIFF, UH, LET ALL THE, I THINK WHAT WE'LL DO THESE, MIKE, IF YOU'D LIKE TO COME FORWARD, SHERIFF, IF YOU'D LIKE TO COME FORWARD. UH, I'LL READ THESE. I THINK THEY'RE VERY SIMILAR. AND, UH, SO WHAT WE'LL DO, WE'LL JUST READ ONE OF THEM AND, UH, THIS IS, UH, AGAIN, DESIGNATING THE NATIONAL POLICE SUITE. MAY, UH, 12TH THROUGH 16TH 2014, THE PEACE OFFICER'S MEMORIAL DAY, WHICH WOULD BE HELD HERE ON MAY THE 15TH, UH, IN, UH, ON 2014, AND THEN THE LAW ENFORCEMENT APPRECIATION DATE, WHICH WOULD BE HELD ON MAY 9TH. AND, UH, THESE RESOLUTIONS ARE, AGAIN VERY SIMILAR AND I'LL ALWAYS READ FROM, UH, ONE THAT SHOULD COVER ALL OF THEM. UH, WHEREAS LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS ARE THE FIRST LINE AGAINST CRIME. AND WHEREAS ONE OF COUNTY MOST IMPORTANTLY ARE THE GRAVE AND DEVOTED PEACE OFFICERS, UH, WHO WILLINGLY DEDICATE THEIR LIVES TO SECURING A SAFE HUMAN SOCIETY FOR ALL. AND WHEREAS NATIONALLY, 165 POLICE OFFICERS DIE IN THE LINE OF DUTY ANNUALLY, AND ONE OFFICER KILLED EVERY 54 HOURS. AND WHEREAS NATIONALLY, TWO OFFICERS ARE SHOT EVERY DAY, AND 200 OFFICERS ARE ASSAULTED EVERY DAY ON A NATIONAL LEVEL, WHEREAS ON OCTOBER THE FIRST 1962, PRESIDENT JOHN F. KENNEDY SIGNED PUBLIC LAW 87 DASH 7 2 6, WHICH DESIGNATES THE SECOND WEEK OF MAY AS NATIONAL POLICE WEEK AND MAY THE 15TH OF EACH YEAR AS PEACE OFFICERS MEMORIAL DAY TO HONOR THE LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS WHO HAVE BEEN KILLED OR DISABLED IN THE LINE OF DUTY. AND WHEREAS THE PEOPLE OF CALTON COUNTY RECOGNIZE THAT OUR HOMES, OUR NEIGHBORHOODS AND COMMUNITIES ARE SAFER AND STRONGER DUE TO THE MEN AND WOMEN WHO SERVE AS LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS IN OUR COUNTY. UH, THIS IS FROM JUDGE WILEY. UH, NOW I THEREFORE JUDGE HARLEY AND WILEY CRIMINAL DISTRICT ATTORNEY OF KAUFMAN COUNTY TO MOVE THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT OF COUNTY, UH, KAMAN COUNTY TO DESIGNATE MAY THE 12TH THROUGH THE 16TH AS NATIONAL POLICE WEEK IN CAMAN COUNTY. FURTHER, I MOVE THAT THE COURT DESIGNATED MAY THE 15TH AS A PEACE OFFICERS MEMORIAL DAY IN CAMAN COUNTY AND URGED ALL COUNTY AGENCIES TO FLY, UH, FLAGS THAT HAD MASKS IN HONOR OF LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS WHO HAVE BEEN KILLED IN THE LINE OF DUTY. FURTHER, I MOVE THE COURT TO DESIGNATE MAY THE NINTH AS LAW ENFORCEMENT APPRECIATION TODAY IN KAMAN COUNTY. FINALLY, I URGE THE CITIZENS OF KAUFMAN COUNTY TO MAKE EVERY EFFORT TO EXPRESS THEIR THINGS TO THE MEN AND WOMEN PAST AND PRESENT, WHO BY THEIR FAITHFUL AND LOYAL DEVOTION TO THEIR RESPONSIBILITIES RENDER A DEDICATED SERVICE TO THE COMMUNITIES. THIS IS SIGNED BY JUDGE WILEY. WE ALSO HAVE ONE FROM THE COMMISSIONER COURT AS WELL. AND GENTLEMEN, I WILL, UH, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR SERVICE AND YOUR DEPARTMENT SERVICE, AS WELL AS ALL THE OTHER LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES THAT EXIST IN TAMAN COUNTY. UH, WE HAD A UNFORTUNATE YEAR LAST YEAR THAT WE ALL REMEMBER. AND, UH, IT BRINGS THIS EVEN MORE HOME TO US, I THINK AFTER, UH, AFTER WHAT THE COUNTY EXPERIENCED, UH, LAST YEAR. AND I BELIEVE THE THERE WILL BE A CEREMONY AT THE JAIL THAT'S CORRECT. ON THE, AT 10 O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING OR 10 30. YES, I BELIEVE THAT'S RIGHT. AND, UH, I THINK THERE WILL BE ANOTHER, UH, UH, GATHERING. I'M NOT SURE EXACTLY, UH, WHERE THAT IS, BUT WE'LL GET THAT. BUT THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU DO. THANK YOU. YEAH, THIS IS, UH, A PART THAT I, THAT'S ACTUALLY ON THE COMMISSIONERS, [00:10:01] UH, AND I'M GOING TO NOT READ THROUGH THE ENTIRE EVENT, BUT WE DID RECOGNIZE IN THE ONE THAT THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT HAS IS THAT, UH, WHEREAS TWO OF KAUFMAN COUNTY'S OWN LAW ENFORCEMENT PERSONNEL, MARK HASSEY, ASSISTANT DISTRICT ATTORNEY, AND MICHAEL MCCLELLAN, DISTRICT ATTORNEY, MADE THE ULTIMATE SACRIFICE PROTECTING THE CITIZENS OF KAUFMAN COUNTY AGAINST CRIME. AND WHEREAS KAMAN COUNTY WOULD LIKE TO SPECIFICALLY HONOR MARK CASSIE, MICHAEL MCCLELLAN AND HIS, UH, WIFE, CYNTHIA MCCLELLAN FOR THEIR SERVICE. AND THIS, UH, IS AGAIN, FROM THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT AS WELL. SO IT TIES IN WITH THE OTHER, UH, RESOLUTION THAT WE HAD. HOW MAY WE APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA? OKAY, WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER CLARK TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA. AND I THINK I HEARD, UH, MR. MANNING SECOND THAT, DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. THOSE OPPOSED. THE NEXT ITEM I NEED TO MOVE, UH, JACK, UH, HAS ANOTHER, UH, MEETING HE NEEDS TO BE TO HERE IN A LITTLE BIT, AND I'M GONNA MOVE TO ITEM SIX SEVEN UP. UH, FIRST WOULD BE, UH, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER A AWARDING BID DASH 1404 TRASH HAULING FOR KAUFMAN COUNTY CLEANUP. UH, GENTLEMEN, WE RECEIVED, UH, THREE BIDS, UH, COMMITTEE WASTE DISPOSAL, BLUE BONNET AND TITAN WASTE. WE HAD ANOTHER, UH, VENDOR WE EXPECTED TO TURN IN A BID, BUT THAT DID NOT HAPPEN. UH, UH, I THINK YOU SEE THE, UH, RECOMMENDATION, UH, HIGHLIGHTED ITEMS. UH, SITE ONE RECOMMEND, UH, BLUE BONNET, $400, UH, FOR HAUL SIDE TWO BLUE BONNET, FOUR OH FOR HAUL SIDE THREE BLUE BONNET AT 4 25. UH, SIDE FOUR, RECOMMEND COMMUNITY WASTE, UH, FOUR 70 HALL AND THEN 2 25, UH, FOR DELIVERY CHARGE. AND THEN SITE FIVE, UH, COMMUNITY WASTE WAS ACTUALLY LOW, BUT, UH, UH, YOU'LL NOTE TO THE RIGHT THERE, THEY HAVE, THEY HAVE NOTED THAT, UH, ON FRIDAY, UH, THAT THEY'RE GOING TO RUN A, A, UH, CUTBACK STAFF AND THEY'RE NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO MAKE IT MANY HAULS AS WE'D LIKE. I THINK IT'LL COVER US BASED ON, ON, UH, WHAT WE'VE DONE THE PAST COMMISSIONER. UH, BUT, SO I'M RECOMMENDING BASED ON THAT, THERE'S, THERE'S A RAILROAD DIFFERENCE IN PRICE. I'M RECOMMENDING, UH, A AWARD TO BLUE BOND TO HELP PICK UP THE SLACK, UH, ON COMMITTEE WASTE. AND I'VE TALKED TO MANY WASTE AND THEY, THEY HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THAT. AND THEN SITE SIX RECOMMEND, UH, COMMITTEE WASTE AT 4 0 4 HALL TWO 16 FOR DELIVERY AND SITE 7, 5 23, THE HALL AND THREE 15 FOR, UH, DELIVERY. UH, WE HAVE NOT DISCUSSED ELMO, UH, DUE TO THE FACT, YOU KNOW, THAT WE'VE GOT, WE'RE BARELY COVERED HERE. I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE GENTLEMAN, WHAT YOUR PLEASURE IS. UH, I, I HAVE TALKED TO TITAN WASTE AND THEY HAVE AGREED TO, UH, ALTHOUGH THEY DIDN'T BID, ELMO WASN'T ON THERE, THEY, THEY WILL MOVE TO ELMO SITE AND DO THAT FOR 500 HALL. AND I THINK THERE'S A $50 DISCOUNT PER HALL IF WE PAY IN 10 DAYS. IF, IF YOU COME TO HAVE THAT IN BUDGET, ARE THEY STILL WILLING TO IN MAN SITE? AND I'LL SAY, I DON'T SEE HERE, BUT HE OFFERED, UH, HE OFFERED TO PICK UP A TAB LAST WEEK ON, ON ELBOW. GRACIOUS. THAT'S ALRIGHT. THE COURT APPROVE THIS WITH, UH, Y WELL, THE IDEA THAT IT, WE PAY THE INVOICE IN 10 DAYS, WE'RE 50 DISCOUNT. IS THAT A PROBLEM, JACK? GETTING THEM PAID IN 10 DAYS? I DON'T THINK SO. I THINK AS LONG AS THAT'S GONNA BE A CALL AS LONG SHE DOESN'T BUY, YOU KNOW, ONE TIME TO GO THROUGH COURT FOR APPROVAL PAYING THE BILL. BUT I A MOTION WE PUT, UH, INCLUDING ELMO. OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER SHANE TO APPROVE THE BIDS AS RECEIVED AS WELL AS ADDING ELMO, UH, TO THE LIST. UH, HAVE A MOTION TO HAVE A SECOND. COMMISSIONER NIK SECONDS. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. OPPOSED? AND THEN ITEM NUMBER SEVEN IS TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER A LEASE PURCHASE OF A CATERPILLAR 2 99 DXHP COMPACT TRACK LOADER FOR PRECINCT THREE UNDER CON CONTRACT. UH, [00:15:01] YEAH, ROAD AND BRIDGE BUYBACK OPTION THROUGH THE BUYBOARD COOPERATIVE PROGRAM. CONTRACT NUMBER 4 24. GENTLEMEN, I'D LIKE TO MY JUST CLARIFICATION THERE, UH, CATERPILLAR, UH, ALLEGED TO BELIEVE THAT THEY HAD A BUYBACK ON THIS. AND IT'S NOT REALLY A BUYBACK, IT'S, IT'S MERELY A BELOW NOTE. UH, WHAT THEY'RE, WHAT THEY'RE PROPOSING IS THAT YOU HAVE AN ANNUAL PAYMENT OF 20,000 2 46 POINT 53, AND THEN AT THE END OF THREE YEARS, THERE'S A BALLOON NOTE OF 52,500. AND YOU CAN EITHER, UH, TURN THE MACHINE BACK AND THEY PAY OFF 52 5 OR YOU PAY 55 AND YOU, AND YOU OWN THE MACHINE. UH, JUST FOR COMPARISON, I, I CALL BANKCORP SOUTH AND, UH, GOT A LITTLE BETTER RATE. UH, THEIR, THEIR PAYMENT, UH, IS 18,000 2 51 4 5 PER PER, UH, YEAR. SO THEY'RE GONNA SAVINGS THERE, UH, MAYBE ABOUT 5,000 OVER THE LIFE OF THE NOTE. MAKE THAT CLARIFICATION THAT IT IS NOT A BUYBACK A A BLUE NOTE. IT DOES, IT DOES. UH, THEY'RE ON BUY, THEY'RE ON BUYBOARD AND THAT'S A VALID PURCHASE. AND, AND, UH, I'LL MAKE THAT RECOMMENDATION. AND THE FINANCING YOU WOULD RECOMMEND, UH, GO THROUGH THANK, THANK I'M, I'M TURN IT OVER TO THE AUTHOR, BUT I I I'VE GOT A GOOD RATE. I'LL FORWARD THAT TO HER. OKAY. AND I'LL MAKE A MOTION. ALRIGHT, WE HAVE A MOTION OR A MOTION, MR. CHANGE? WE HAVE A SECOND. SECOND. MR. NIK, UH, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? WHEN, WHEN WE DO THIS, DOES THIS GO AGAINST OUR CREDIT? KAREN IS LIKE A HUNDRED POUND DOLLAR, UH, A NEGATIVE ON OUR CREDIT. WHEN ARE WE LEASE PART SOMETHING? IT, IT PART IS A LIABILITY ON YOUR BOOKS? YES. AND THEN, UH, WHAT ABOUT THE INSURANCE THAT GOES ON THIS INSURANCE PAID OUT THIS OUT OF A ROAD AND BRIDGE, OR IS IT PAID OUT OF GENERAL FUND INSURANCE GOES INTO THE GENERAL FUND OF THE 4 0 9 DEPARTMENT? I JUST WANNA MAKE EVERYBODY AWARE OF THAT, BUT I IT'S HIS BUY, SO, OKAY, WE HAVE A MOTION. SECOND, WE HAVE OTHER QUESTIONS. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. A. THOSE OPPOSED. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. NOW LET'S GO BACK UP TO ITEM NUMBER THREE. AND THIS IS FROM JEFF BROWN. GIVE US AN UPDATE ON TAX COLLECTIONS AS WELL AS JP FINES AND FEES COLLECTIONS. AND I BELIEVE, UH, MR. BROWN HAD GIVEN US SOME INFORMATION THAT WAS ON THE TABLE WE GOT HERE TODAY. JUDGE, MAY I STAND? JACKSON? I SUPPOSE IT'S YES, THE OFFICIAL PLACE. IF WE COULD, UH, THIS, THE LETTER, UH, THIS, THE LETTER REPORT IS, UM, ON THE LABOR OF TAX COLLECTIONS. I'LL START WITH THAT. WHEN, UH, JUDGE WOOD WAS IT THREE YEARS AGO, WE, FOR THE RFP PROCESS, AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT YOU HAD, THAT YOU HAD ASKED PARTICULAR WAS THAT WE MAKE, UH, TWO REPORTS A YEAR, UH, WENT ABOUT HALFWAY THROUGH, UH, THE FISCAL YEAR AND THEN AGAIN AT THE END OF THE FISCAL YEAR REGARDING, UH, WHAT WE WERE DOING IN TERMS OF LABOR WITH TAXES. THIS REPORT, UH, COVERS FROM OCTOBER 1ST TO MARCH 31ST. UH, WE MAILED ALMOST 11,000 LETTERS OUT, UH, WHICH IS ABOUT NORMAL FOR THIS TIME OF YEAR. AND WE, UH, OUR HEAVIEST MOVING PERIOD, AS Y'ALL ARE AWARE, IS IN, UH, AUGUST AND SEPTEMBER, JULY AND AUGUST AND SEPTEMBER, WHICH ARE, WHICH ARE NOT COVERED BY THIS REPORT, BUT THAT'S, WE DO MOST OF OUR MAILINGS IN THOSE THAT PERIOD OF TIME. WITH REGARD TO, UH, LAWSUITS, UH, JUDGE WOOD, ONE OF THE THINGS WE'D ALSO TALKED ABOUT DURING THAT CONTRACT NEGOTIATION WAS THAT WE WOULD FILE SOMETHING SOMEWHERE AROUND 400 LAWSUITS A YEAR. UH, INTERNALLY, I'VE NOT INFORMED YOU THIS, I'M SORRY FOR THAT. INTERNALLY, WE, UH, BUMPED THAT UP BY 25% THIS YEAR. SO WE'RE, WE'RE GOING, OUR GOAL IS TO DO 500. WE'RE PROBABLY GONNA BE SOMEWHERE BETWEEN FIVE AND 600 THIS YEAR. UH, IT'S JUST BECOME NECESSARY TO, TO PUT THAT MANY MORE PEOPLE IN LAWSUITS TO, TO GET THE MONEY TO COME IN. WITH REGARD TO THAT, UH, WE HAVE FILED 347 LAWSUITS THUS FAR FOR A LITTLE OVER, UH, A MILLION AND A HALF DOLLARS, UH, IN TAXES THAT ARE DUE. UM, AGAIN, WE DON'T FILE LAWSUITS IN THIS. WE ABSOLUTELY CAN HAVE, ARE HAVING NO LUCK, UH, CONTACTING PEOPLE, GETTING TO, TO CONTACT US, ANY TAX BILLS IN THEIR HANDS GETTING PAID. JUST REGARD TO, UH, THE SECOND PAGE OF THE REPORT UNDER THE DISMISSAL SECTION, UH, WE HAVE A BEEN ABLE TO GET 94 LAWSUITS COLLECTED AND PAID THIS YEAR. BUT WHEN WE FILE A NON-SUIT, UH, THAT MEANS ALL THE TAX FILLINGS AND INTEREST BEEN PAID AS WELL AS ALL THE COURT COSTS. UH, THE, THE DISTRICT CLERK, UH, PREFERS THAT WE GET COURT COSTS, UH, WHENEVER WE CAN. SO WE DO THAT. [00:20:01] UH, RHONDA'S OFFICE DOES A GREAT JOB FOR US AND, AND, UH, HELPS US IN MANY, MANY WAYS. AND WE WANT TO, TO, UH, HONOR THEIR HELP BY COLLECTING AS MANY AS BEST WE CAN. WITH REGARD TO JUDGMENTS, UH, WE, WE'VE BEEN TO COURT THROUGH THE LAST SIX MONTHS, TAKING 137 JUDGMENTS. UM, I WILL ALSO REMIND Y'ALL THAT NOT ALL THESE JUDGMENTS ARE TAKEN WITHIN KAMAN COUNTY. UH, THE KEPP AND MAYBANK SCHOOLS IN PARTICULAR, UH, GO OUTSIDE INTO HENDERSON COUNTY AND ZA COUNTY. SO SOME OF THESE JUDGMENT ARE TAKEN IN THOSE COUNTIES AS WELL. UH, FOR, FOR THOSE COMPONENT JURISDICTIONS THAT ARE COLLECTED BY THE TAX OFFICE, THOSE 137 LAWSUITS ARE INVOLVED ABOUT A LITTLE UNDER $800,000 WORTH OF, UH, UH, TAXES THAT ARE DUE. WE'VE ALSO RELEASED 29 JUDGEMENTS, UH, WHICH IS A GOOD THING, AGAIN, LIKE A NON CITY RELEASE OF A JUDGMENT MEANS THAT EVERYTHING'S BEEN PAID TAXES, S INTEREST COURT COSTS INVOLVING BEEN PAID IN THOSE CASES. UH, IT'S ABOUT $130,000 INVOLVED IN THOSE. WITH REGARD TO TAX SALES, UH, WE, WE PROSECUTED, I'D SAY PROSECUTE PROSECUTED 30, UH, TAX SALES INVOLVED $115,000. UM, WE ARE, I I'LL MENTION HERE, IT WAS DONE ON A SPECIAL PROJECT, BUT I'LL MENTION THIS YEAR THAT, THAT, UH, MS. RADCLIFFE HAD ASKED THAT WE, UH, HAVE AT LEAST TWO RESALES THIS YEAR. THE FIRST OF THOSE RESALES IS COMING UP, UH, ON MAY THE 20TH. WE'LL DO ANOTHER ONE EITHER LATE, LATE SUMMER OR EARLY FALL. THIS FIRST RESALE IS, IS HAVING TO DO WITH THE SOUTHERN PART OF THE COUNTY. WE'RE DOING, UH, CAMP MAYBANK, UH, AND CRALL. UH, WE TRY, WE'RE GONNA DO THAT, UH, IN MAYBANK, BUT THE IDEA IS, IS THAT THE TAX OFFICE HAS A BOOK, THEY'RE IN THE TAX OFFICE, AND THOSE RESELLERS ARE IN THIS BOOK, AND PEOPLE CAN COME IN AND THEY CAN, THEY CAN MAKE BIDS OR PAY FULL PRICE AND GET THE PROPERTIES Y'ALL WERE ASKED FOR APPROVE ONE OF THOSE THIS MORNING IN YOUR CONSENT AGENDA. THE IDEA IS, IS TO PUBLICIZE THIS, WE'RE NOT DOING IT AT NORMAL TAX SALE TIME. WE'RE DOING IT IN THE EVENING FROM PEOPLE WHO MAY BE WORKING DURING THE DAY AND CAN'T TAKE OFF, COME TO OUR TAXES MAY COME, WE'RE GONNA DO AN AUCTION STYLE. IT'S NOT SEAL BID. UM, THEY HAVE THE WORST AUCTIONEER IN THE WORLD, ME DOING IT. BUT, UH, WE'LL, WE'LL DO THAT. AND, AND WE'VE HAD SOME SUCCESS. IN FACT, IN FACT, WE'VE HAD GOOD SUCCESS DOING THIS. UH, SO WE'RE GONNA CONTINUE TO DO THIS AT LEAST TWICE A YEAR. AND IF IT, IF IT'S NECESSARY, WE'LL DO IT, DO IT ADDITIONAL TIMES AS WELL. BUT IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S A LITTLE BIT OUT OF THE ORDINARY. SO, UM, IF Y'ALL SEE PEOPLE OUT IN YOUR, IN YOUR, IN YOUR WALKS AND THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT, WE'D LIKE TO GET SOME PROPERTY, WHATEVER, REMIND THEM TO CHECK THE TAX OFFICE ABOUT THE RESALE BOOK AND, UH, CHECK WITH THEM ABOUT RESALES AUCTIONS THAT ARE, THAT ARE COMING UP. ARE YOU PUTTING UP SIGNS ON THOSE PROPERTIES OR HOW ARE PEOPLE? WE, WE, YES, JUDGE, WE WANT PUT, WE'RE GONNA PUT SIGNS UP. WE'RE ALSO GOING TO, UH, PUT ADS IN THE NEWSPAPER AND PUT, WE'RE GONNA PUT NSS UP AT THE SCHOOLS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. SO WE'RE TRYING TO GET AT, WE WANT PE WE WANT, I'M NOT SAYING THAT WE DON'T LIKE OUR BIDDERS TO COME OUT TO OUR REGULAR TAX SALE. WE WANT TRY TO OPEN IT UP TO MORE PEOPLE THAT MIGHT, UH, I THINK THE PUBLICATION OR THE ADVERTISING WILL MAKE A DIFFERENCE. UH, IT WILL, YEAH. WILL, AND AGAIN, THESE, AND YOU'RE DOING THIS AT MAYBANK AT THE HIGH SCHOOL? WE'RE DOING IT ONE OF THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS, JUDGE. OKAY. UH, AND I, I CAN'T REMEMBER WHICH ONE OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD. WE'VE DONE IT TWO, THREE DIFFERENT PLACES THERE IN MYBANK, BUT, UH, WE'RE DOING IT ONE AGAIN, ONE OF THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS. OKAY. IT'LL BE IN THE CAFETERIA WITH REGARD, UH, DOWN BELOW WITH TAX WARRANT. Y'ALL REMEMBER ABOUT FOUR YEARS AGO, UH, I CAME TO THE COURT AND ASKED Y'ALL TO, UH, AMEND OUR CONTRACT AND ALLOW US TO PROCEED TO DO EARLY PROPERTY COLLECTIONS UNDER 33 3 11 AND PROPERTY TAX CODE. WE HAVE BEGUN THAT PROCESS. WE WERE IN FACT, OUT THE, THE FIRST WEEK OF OF APRIL, WE WERE OUT TO DOING TAX WARRANTS AND, AND ALREADY GETTING AFTER THOSE, UM, MOBILE HOMES AND BUSINESSES WHO HAD TO PAY THEIR TAXES. THE IDEA OF 33 11 IS BECAUSE PERSONAL PROPERTY IS ON THE MOVE. OUR CAN BE ON THE MOVE. THE IDEA IS TO GET US WORKING EARLIER SO THAT WE HAVE A BETTER CHANCE TO, TO, TO GET PROPERTY FORWARD, HAS A CHANCE TO LEAVE. AND IT'S BEEN VERY SUCCESSFUL AND, AND IT, IT'S GONNA WORK THIS YEAR AS WELL. UM, VERY PLEASED THAT Y'ALL DID THAT. UH, NOT EVERY COMMISSIONER'S COURT, NOT EVERY TAX JURISDICTION'S DOING THAT. THE ONES THAT ARE, ARE, ARE SENSITIVE BENEFITS, ESPECIALLY THE FRONT LOADED MONEY THAT COMES IN, UH, BEFORE JULY OR AUGUST UNDER SPECIAL PROJECTS. UH, I ALREADY MENTIONED THE RESALES THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS. WE, WE HAVE, UH, PARTICULARLY IN, WE DID THIS BY BASICALLY BY SCHOOL DISTRICT OR BY COMMUNITY. WE IDENTIFY, UH, REAL PROPERTY HOMESTEAD OWNERS WHO, UH, HAVE DELINQUENT PROPERTY TAXES. WE, WE GO KNOCK ON THEIR DOOR, VERY NON, NON-CONFRONTATIONAL, JUST PRESENT 'EM A TAX BILL, REMIND 'EM THAT THEY'VE GOT TAXES DUE AND, AND THAT IF THEY GO AHEAD AND PAY, PAY THEIR, GET THEIR HOMESTEAD TAXES PAID, [00:25:01] THEY CAN AVOID ANYWHERE FROM 300 $5,500 MINIMUM IN LITIGATION COST. IT'S BEEN VERY SUCCESSFUL. UH, AGAIN, WE'RE NOT TRYING TO BE CONFRONTATIONAL OR ANYTHING ELSE. IT'S REALLY INFORMATIONAL AND, UH, THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT WE'RE MAKING AN EFFORT SO THAT THEY DON'T HAVE TO PAY QUITE AS MUCH MONEY TO GET THEIR PROBLEM RESOLVED. THE, UH, ALSO WE WE'RE USING, UH, OUR PHONE BANKS TO DO WHAT WE CALL A SOUNDBITE CAMPAIGN FOR THOSE PEOPLE WHO WE CAN FIND A PHONE NUMBER, UH, WE'RE USING AN AUTOMATED PHONE SYSTEM. WHEN WE GET SOMEBODY ON THE PHONE, WE TALK TO THEM AND, AND AGAIN, DO THE SAME THING WE DO WITH THE, WITH THE WALK AND TALK, IS TRY TO GET A, A, GET 'EM TO BE COGNIZANT OF WHAT'S GOING ON AND, AND WHAT THEY CAN DO TO, TO RESOLVE THEIR, THEIR DELINQUENT TAX ISSUES. AND THEN, UH, ONE OF THE OTHER, ONE OF THE THINGS WE'RE DOING FOR ALL JURISDICTIONS, WE, IT HASN'T BEEN DONE SINCE 2000, 2002, I BELIEVE, BUT IN WITH WORKING WITH, UH, MS. RADCLIFF'S OFFICE, WE'RE GOING TO, TO ATTEMPT TO REVIEW ANY UNELECTABLE AMOUNTS AND TRY TO CLEAN UP THE TAX ROLLS TO GIVE ALL THE JURISDICTIONS A BETTER IDEA OF WHAT EXACTLY THEY HAD. THAT'S REALLY, THAT'S OUTSTANDING AND COLLECTIBLE. THERE ARE A LOT OF PERSONAL PROPERTY ACCOUNTS, MOBILE HOMES THAT YOU JUST ARE NOT COLLECTIBLE. THE PROPERTY'S LONG GONE. A LOT OF SITUATIONS. IT WASN'T EVEN AVAILABLE REALLY TO BE TAXED. AND WE'VE GONE THAT FAST, SOME OF IT. BUT, UH, WE NEED TO, TO, TO GET THOSE UNCOLLECTIBLE AMOUNTS TAKEN OFF OF THE EVERYBODY'S ACTIVE TAX ROLL SO THAT WE REALLY KNOW WHAT'S OUT THERE TO COLLECT. THE ONLY SECTION THAT Y'ALL REALLY CARE ABOUT IS THE NEXT ONE, WHICH IS THE TOTAL COLLECTIONS. UH, WE P JUST UNDER TWO AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS FOR THE KAUFMAN COUNTY TAX AND JURISDICTIONS, UH, FROM OCTOBER 1ST THROUGH MARCH 31ST. UH, IT'S RIGHT ON TARGET. UH, ONE OTHER THING I WANT TELL INFORM THE COURT IS THIS SUMMER, UM, I'M GONNA DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT. UH, WE, WE'VE USED THIS IN OUR DALLAS OFFICE A LITTLE BIT, AND I WANT TO USE IT FOR Y'ALL AS WELL. I'M GONNA DO A TAX ROLL ANALYSIS FOR EACH JURISDICTION THAT WE COLLECT FOR THAT ANALYSIS. WE'RE GONNA, WE'RE GONNA TAKE YOUR DELINQUENT TAX ROLL AS EXIST JULY 1ST, AND BREAK IT DOWN THE CATEGORIES THAT ARE, THAT ARE OUTSTANDING DELINQUENT, UM, WHAT THE STATUSES OF THOSE CATEGORIES ARE. IN OTHER WORDS, IF IT'S REAL PROPERTY, IF YOU HAVE HOMESTEAD DEFERRALS, UM, IF YOU HAVE DISABILITY, DEFER DIS DIS DISABILITIES OR DISABILITY DEFERRALS FOR SCHOOL DISTRICTS, GONNA TALK ABOUT FREEZES, THAT KIND OF THING. AND WE'RE ALSO GONNA TALK AND JUST IN GENERAL, BREAK THE ROLL DOWN SO YOU KIND OF KNOW WHAT, WHAT YOUR ROLE REALLY LOOKS LIKE. THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS I WANNA GET THE UNCOLLECTABLE PARTS OFF OF THIS. SO WE'RE GONNA DO THE ANALYSIS. WE CAN REALLY GET YOUR CLEAR PICTURE OF WHAT'S OUTSTANDING AT THAT TIME. THAT WILL BE COMING THE SUMMER. UH, PROBABLY PROBABLY GIVE TO YOU IN AUGUST, UH, IF WE GET A CHANCE TO GET THE DATA IN JULY AND, UH, GET IT THERE. ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT WHAT WE'RE DOING? YES, SIR. OKAY. HELP US READ THE DECIPHER OF THIS WARRANT ON THIS REPORT. YES SIR. AND DON'T WANT TO CALL THIS NAME OUT, BUT ON PAGE 16 OR 17. YES SIR. THERE'S A LARGE AMOUNT UP THERE OF $175,000. WHAT'S THE STATUS OF THAT PARTICULAR CASE? YOU'LL BE GLAD TO KNOW COMMISSIONER CLARK. 'CAUSE IT'S NOT EMPLOYABLE. I COULD TELL BY THE NAME OF IT PROBABLY, BUT MR. MANNING WON'T BE SO HAPPY THAT, THAT YOU, NOW, THAT IS A PROPERTY. WE FILED A LAWSUIT AND IMMEDIATELY UPON FILING A LAWSUIT, THE LAWYER CONTACTED ME AND SAID, SAID, WAIT, HOLD ON A MINUTE. WE HAVE A, WE HAVE AN ABATEMENT DEAL WITH THE CITY OF KEMP. AND, UH, THEY ARE TRYING TO, TO WORK ON THAT. WE, WE FILED A LAWSUIT AND OBVIOUSLY AS QUICKLY AS WE COULD ONCE THE, ONCE THE ROLE CAME OUT AND ONCE WE GOT OUR HANDS ON IT, WE ARE WORKING WITH THEM AND WITH THE CITY TO TRY TO GET RESOLVED AS THAT, WHAT THEIR AGREEMENT WAS. IN FACT, I HAD A PHONE CALL JUST LAST WEEK, UH, THAT THEY THINK THEY'LL HAVE IT RESOLVED SOMETIME PROBABLY IN THE NEXT TWO TO THREE WEEKS. SO WHAT THE DISPUTE IS JUST WITH THE CITY, THIS, IT'S WITH THE CITY PAYMENT BECAUSE OF THAT AND WITH THE, AND WITH THE PATION ABOUT WHAT THE TRUE VALUATION SHOULD BE. SO WHAT ABOUT THE NEXT ONE? IT'S, UH, 51,000 ON PAGE 16 OF 17, UH, WHICH IS A LARGE AMOUNT AS WELL, JUDGE. LET'S SEE, 9 0 4, 9 5 8 6. YES, SIR. UH, THAT IS, THAT IS, UH, THAT IS A BANK I BELIEVE THAT FORECLOSED ON. LOTS OF DEVELOPER HAD. OKAY. THEY, I, IF YOU ASK ME WHY THEY DIDN'T PAY IT UP FRONT, I DUNNO, BUT THEY DID NOT THE WAY IT F AND THEN THERE'S ONE OTHER ONE THAT KIND OF JUST JUMPS OUT AND GRAB ME. YES, SIR. SPEED. READING THIS ON 23 OF 24, UH, NUMBER 8 9 1 4 OH DASH 86. YES, SIR. [00:30:01] WHAT IS GOING ON THERE? WELL, UH, I BELIEVE, I BELIEVE THE COUNTY JUDGES, HE AND I HAD, HAVE HAD SOME DISCUSSIONS ON THIS. THERE'S SOME, AS I UNDERSTAND IT, THERE ARE, THERE WAS SOME MISUNDERSTANDING WITH REGARD TO, TO THAT PARTICULAR COMPANY AND WHETHER OR NOT IT WAS TAXED IN THE FIRST PLACE. IT IS ON THE ROAD. WE FILED A LAWSUIT. OF COURSE, I FILED A LAWSUIT IMMEDIATELY, IMMEDIATELY I GET A PHONE CALL FROM THE LAWYER TELLING ME THAT, YOU KNOW, MY CLIENT'S EXEMPT. I TOLD THEM WHAT TO DO IN TERMS OF GETTING TO THE CLOSING DISTRICT AND TRYING TO GET THAT PROBLEM RESOLVED. THAT'S, WE'RE STILL WORKING ON THAT. UH, MR. PEACE IS LOOKING AT IT AND GATHERING SOME DOCUMENTS THAT HE HAS NOT GIVEN ME HIS ANSWER YET, BUT THAT WILL BE COMING. I CAN'T SUMMARY. SO IT'S, UH, ON THE WAY TO BE GETTING RESOLVED OR IS THIS STILL WAY NO, IT, NO, IT, IT IS ON THE WAY TO BE RESOLVED, SIR. IT'S ON THE WAY TO BE RESOLVED. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE OUTCOME'S GONNA BE, BUT IT'LL BE RESOLVED. WELL, WE COULD, WE COULD SPEND QUITE A BIT OF TIME GOING THROUGH ALL OF THESE, BUT I, SOME OF 'EM ARE LARGE NEXT TIME. I'D LIKE TO HEAR THIS EARLIER. SO WELL REALLY LOOK, THAT IS MY FAULT, COMMISSIONER. THEY WOULDN'T HAVE A WORKSHOP ON WHAT THEY, WELL, AND, UH, THE THING ABOUT SOME OF THESE, I MEAN, THEY'RE, THEY'RE, THEY'VE ACTUALLY GONE TO SUE. THE JUDGMENT'S BEEN GIVEN. WELL, THEY'RE NOT DOING ANYBODY GOOD. THEY'RE SITTING THERE AND WE GET CALLS ABOUT A LOT BEING GROWN UP AND PEOPLE FUSSING AT US. AND SO IT'S GOOD GETTING BACK ON THE PACK ROAD. SO ON THE, ON THE SALE ON THE 20TH. YES, SIR. NOW THAT'S GOING TO BE WHERE PEOPLE CAN COME INTO AN AUCTION AND THEY'LL BE ABLE TO, THEY'LL BE SIGNS UP WHERE THEY CAN VIEW THE PROPERTIES. UH, YOU'RE GOING TO NOTIFY PEOPLE BY ADVERTISING. UH, IS THERE A WAY YOU COULD SEND OUT A POSTCARD TO PEOPLE IN THAT GENERAL AREA OR SOMETHING, UH, NOTIFYING THEM OF THE SALE AND, UH, PROPERTY OWNERS OR ANYTHING? OR IS THAT, I I DON'T WANT TO TELL YOU. WE CAN GET IT DONE FOR THIS. SO WE START TO LOOK AT THAT FOR THE NEXT ONE. YEAH. JUST SEEMS, IT'S JUST SHORT. IT JUST JUDGE US IN THREE WEEKS. YEAH. SO IT'S HARD TO IDENTIFY ALL THOSE PEOPLE THAT MIGHT BE USED TO BE KIND OF THING. THAT'S A GOOD IDEA THOUGH. YEAH. IT JUST SEEMS LIKE, ARE YOU TALKING JUDGE, ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT, UH, A CARVE ABOUT THAT PARTICULAR LOT OR JUST IN GENERAL? WELL, IN THAT PARTICULAR AREA DOWN THERE, IF THEY'RE ALL IN WHAT PRECINCT? FOUR AND PRECINCT, UH, ONE, I GUESS MOST OF THESE ARE IN PRECINCT FOUR. OKAY. I IT'S JUST SOMETHING THAT MIGHT, YOU KNOW, MIGHT HELP, BUT I APPRECIATE IT, JUDGE. I HADN'T THOUGHT ABOUT THAT. GOOD IDEA. OKAY. WOULD THAT BEEN EXPENSIVE TO BE ADDED ON TO, UH, YOUR FEES OR OUR, OUR SIDE OF IT? I IMAGINE WE PICK THAT UP. WOULDN'T BE, NOT, NOT THAT MUCH. THAT'D BE A CLEAR UNDERSTANDING. BUT OTHER QUESTIONS FOR JEFF ON THE TAX, UH, TAX COLLECTIONS. PRETTY INTERESTING. I LIKE IT. GOOD INFORMATION. AND, UH, MR. NEXT TIME I'LL GET IT TOO EARLY. YEAH, I WOULD REMIND YOU THAT ONE OF THE OTHER CONVERSATIONS THAT WE HAD WAS, IS THAT SOME POINT IN TIME WHERE YOU WERE GONNA DO A NEWSPAPER ADVERTISEMENT OR AN ONLINE ADVERTISEMENT OR SOMEWHERE WHERE PEOPLE WOULD COME IN AND, YOU KNOW, YOU SEND 'EM A LETTER OR TWO OR THREE AND SAY YOUR NAME'S GONNA BE IN PAPER. YES, SIR. AND I KNOW THAT HAS WORKED. IT HAS WORKED. UH, BUT FOR THE, FOR THE AUDIENCE, I WANT, Y'ALL KNOW THAT WHEN THE COUNTY JUDGE WAS SUPERINTENDENT, HE GOT ME TO DO THAT ONE TIME AND WE COLLECTED A LOT OF BREAKS. YEAH, IT WILL WORK. WE NEED, WE NEED TO WORK, COORDINATE WITH THE TAX OFFICE NOT TO EMBARRASS PEOPLE. IT'S JUST MAKE PROOF WHAT THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO DO. NOW THE NEXT ITEM IS THE JP COLLECTION JUDGE. UH, THIS, THIS REPORT TAKES THE SAME FORM AS THE, WHAT I'VE BEEN DOING, I GUESS FOR THE LAST, WHAT, THREE AND A HALF YEARS. THREE YEARS. AND, UH, I JUST, SO I JUST WANT TO INFORM Y'ALL THAT, UH, BARBARA DOTY WITH THE IT DEPARTMENT HAS TOLD ME THAT, UH, THAT THE COUNTY CLERK MAY HAVE A BETTER FORMAT THAT, THAT WE CAN USE. UH, THIS IS ONE I JUST MADE UP ON MY OWN AND IT'S KIND OF WORKED. BUT SUPPOSEDLY THERE, THERE MAY BE SOME, THE OFFICE OF COURT ADMINISTRATION, WHEN THEY WERE VISITING HERE LAST YEAR, I GAVE HER SOME IDEAS OF SOME REPORTS, AND WE MAY, I MAY RESTRUCTURE IT FOR THE NEXT TIME. BUT, UH, THIS, THIS TAKES THE SAME FORM THAT WE, WE'VE BEEN USING. UH, ONE OF THE THINGS I DID, UH, ON THIS REPORT WAS ACTUALLY, I GUESS TWO REPORTS AGO WAS I PUT A THREE YEAR COMPARISON. THE, UH, INCREASE DECREASED PORTION OF IT, IT HAS TO DO BETWEEN THIS FISCAL YEAR AND ACTUALLY, UH, MARCH OF 2013, UH, AS YOU CAN SEE, SINCE OCTOBER THROUGH MARCH, OCTOBER THROUGH MARCH, UH, 2012, UH, 2014 ON TOP. AND [00:35:01] THEN IT SHOULD BE 13, JUDGE. THAT'S MY FAULT. I NOTICED THAT THIS MORNING. AND THE BOTTOM ONE 12, THEN 12. YES. OKAY. LOU ANN, MY PROOFREAD WAS OTHERWISE ENGAGED, UH, ON FRIDAY. UH, BUT ANY EVENT, UH, THE, THE INCREASED DECREASED PORTION OF THIS REPORT HAS TO DO WITH, UH, UH, THIS, THIS FISCAL YEAR OVER THE LAST FISCAL YEAR. ALL THE, ALL THE JP OFFICERS ARE DOWN AND DOWN SUBSTANTIALLY. UH, JUDGE ADAMS MAY, MAY NOT WANT BE USED SUBSTANTIALLY WITH REGARD TO PRECINCT FOUR, BUT AS YOU CAN SEE, THEY'RE ALL DOWN. UH, ONE OF THE THINGS THE OVERALL DECREASE FOR THIS YEAR IS 20%. UH, JUDGE WOOD, I'M NOT, I'M NOT, UH, AWARE OF WHAT Y'ALL BUDGETED FOR THIS, FOR THESE COURTS. DO YOU, DO YOU RECALL TALKING, I DON'T HAVE A BUDGET RIGHT HERE WITH ME, BUT IT WAS, IT WAS PROBABLY MORE THAN NUMBER DOWN FROM WHAT WE THOUGHT. PROBABLY MORE THAN A MILLION DOLLARS TO BEEN COLLECTED? YES. NO QUESTION ABOUT THAT. I DON'T WRITE THE EXACT AMOUNT AND I DON'T EITHER, JUDGE. I'M SORRY. I DON'T, DON'T HAVE THAT NUMBER. UH, AND THAT'S $266,000 BEHIND LAST YEAR. UH, ONE, IF WE GO DOWN THE BOTTOM OF THE PAGE, AND, AND AGAIN, THERE ARE PROBABLY FACTORS IN THIS THAT, UH, THAT, THAT I, I'M SURE THAT I'M NOT AWARE OF Y'ALL, Y'ALL BEING HERE IN THE COUNTY TODAY MAY BE AWARE OF SOME OF IT. I KNOW THAT, UH, THERE, THERE HAVE BEEN FEWER TICKETS WRITTEN ON I 20 FOR VARIOUS NUMBERS OF REASONS. I HAVE HEARD THAT FROM ONE OF THE JPS. UH, I DON'T KNOW WHAT, WHY ELSE, UH, COLLECTIONS WOULD BE DOWN SO MUCH. I DO KNOW THAT, UH, AS YOU GET TOWARDS THE BOTTOM, YOU'LL SEE, UH, IN, IN THE LAST, NEXT TO LAST GROUPING OF, OF INFORMATION IS THAT IT'S OUR, OUR FEES AND FINE THAT WE'VE BEEN RESPONSIBLE FOR HELPING COLLECT THAT. THAT'S ACTUALLY UP AS OPPOSED TO LAST YEAR AS OPPOSED TO BEING DOWN. UM, OUR, WE, I WOULD SAY OUR FEES ARE, FEES ARE UP A LITTLE BIT OVER LAST YEAR, I THINK LAST YEAR ABOUT THIS TIME WAS ABOUT 55, BETWEEN 50 AND 55,000. THIS YEAR IS 62. UH, SO WE WE'RE, WE'RE STILL WORKING, STILL STILL TRYING TO GET IN. I JUST DON'T THINK THERE'S A NUMBER OF TICKETS THAT ARE OUT THERE. I, I SHOULD HAVE CALLED SEAN AND FOUND, FOUND OUT FROM HIM HOW MANY TICKETS ARE BEING TURNED OVER. I'M, I'M SURE THAT THE NUMBER OF TICKETS BEING TURNED OVER IS PROBABLY SMALLER AS WELL. UH, WE HAD THAT NUMBER ONE TIME AND IT'S RIGHT. HAVE AN UPDATE. IT'S RIGHT AT 25% REDUCTION IN CASES FILED. SO, SO 20% REDUCTION IN REVENUE IS PROBABLY TO BE EXPECTED. UH, I I I'VE NOT SEEN THOSE NUMBERS, COMMISSIONER CLARK, BUT, UH, I ASSUME THAT IF, IF IT IS DOWN 25%, 20% REDUCTION IN REVENUE IS PROBABLY, PROBABLY PRETTY GOOD. UH, RATHER, RATHER THAN BAD. THE OTHER THING IS, THOSE NUMBERS CAME FROM WHAT BARBARA WAS TALKING ABOUT, THE COURT OFFICE, COURT ADMINISTRATION STUFF. THE, THE LAST LITTLE SECTION OF NUMBERS HAS TO DO WITH THE COUNTY COURT COLLECTIONS. UM, YOU KNOW, WE, WE WERE A LITTLE BIT SLOWER GETTING THAT, THAT THOSE COLLECTIONS UP OFF THE GROUND, BUT, UH, REALLY THE LAST SIX MONTHS THEY'VE BEEN REALLY, REALLY VERY GOOD. UM, LAST YEAR, UH, PROBABLY WE WERE, WE WERE GETTING PROBABLY GENERATING FEES ABOUT $500 A MONTH, UH, OFF THAT, RIGHT NOW IT'S ABOUT $1,200 A MONTH. SO IT'S, SO IT'S WORKING TO HELP SOME OF THOSE GET THOSE, UH, COUNTY COURT OF LAW FEES AND FINES IN, UH, BEING AN OLD COUNTY ATTORNEY MYSELF, I LIKE IT WHEN THE COUNTY COURT OF LAW FEES GET PAID. SO I'M GLAD THAT THAT'S WORKING OVERALL. UH, OBVIOUSLY THE REVENUE'S DOWN, BUT, UH, AT LEAST IT LOOKS LIKE THE COUNTY COURT. AGAIN, I DON'T HAVE COUNTY COURT TOTAL COLLECTIONS NUMBERS. I JUST HAVE THE REPORT WHAT WE'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR, BUT THOSE NUMBERS ARE, I, I REPORT TO YOU. THOSE NUMBERS ARE UP AND I'M GLAD FOR THAT. BUT, UH, ANY, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF, UH, JEFF? OKAY. JEFF, HAVE YOU GOT SOME KIND OF A GUESSTIMATE ON WHAT THE PERCENTAGE COLLECTION RATE IS AT, AT THIS? WELL, FIRST STARTED THIS, WE WERE ANTICIPATING MAYBE LIKE A 30% COLLECTION RATE ON BOTH FINES AND FEES. ARE WE CLOSE TO THAT? OR YOU MEAN IN TERMS OF WHAT'S TURNED OVER TO US? THAT KIND OF THING? YEAH. YEAH. I, I THINK WE'RE, WE'RE PROBABLY PRETTY, PRETTY CLOSE TO THAT BRA. YOU KNOW, UH, EXCUSE ME, COMMISSIONER CLARK. UH, THAT'S WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU GET TO KNOW PEOPLE CLOSELY. UH, ONE OF THE THINGS I I, IT IS PROBABLY UNKNOWN IS EXACTLY WHAT THE POSITION, UH, PERCENTAGES ARE. BUT THE THING, THE THING THAT WE'RE, THAT WE'RE DOING IS WE'RE, WE'RE BEING CONSISTENT WITH IT. AND, AND ESPECIALLY, UH, JPS THREE AND FOUR THAT I'M AWARE OF, WE'RE BEING VERY CONSISTENT INTERNALLY ABOUT TURNING 'EM OVER. SO I THINK, I THINK OUR PERCENTAGE IS GONNA BE VERY, FAIRLY, FAIRLY CONSTANT BECAUSE THEY'RE, THEY'RE CONSISTENT. WE'RE CONSISTENT. SO WE WE'RE, WE SHOULD BE GETTING KIND OF THE SAME RESULTS. I KNOW THE LAST TWO MONTHS HAVE BEEN VERY GOOD, BUT HISTORICALLY IN IN FEES AND FINES, COLLECTIONS, APRIL AND MAY, EXCUSE ME, MARCH, APRIL. APRIL MAY ARE, ARE GOOD MONTHS. AND IT, IT IS BECAUSE, UH, VARIOUS FACTORS, BUT A LOT OF IT HAS TO DO WITH THE, THE FEDERAL INCOME TAX CODE. THE FACT THAT PEOPLE GET MONEY THIS TIME OF YEAR, [00:40:01] A LOT OF PEOPLE COME IN TO PAY. AND SO IT, IT, THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS THAT, UH, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU REMEMBER THIS OR NOT, BUT BACK IN, I THINK IN 11 WE WERE SCURRYING TRYING TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY HAD THEIR INFORMATION TO US SO WE COULD GET IT OUT IN FEBRUARY. 'CAUSE WE ENDED IT FEBRUARY, MARCH, APRIL, MAY. WE KIND OF PRIME COLLECTION MONTHS. BUT I THINK OUR PERCENTS ARE PRETTY GOOD. I WILL, UH, I'LL MAKE A NOTE OF THAT AND TRY TO GET WITH SEAN BEFORE WE, BEFORE I COME BACK AND GET IT BACK ON THIS THING ON MAY THE 20TH. AND MAYBANK IS, IS THAT SOMETHING I, I'M SURE THE TAX ASSESSOR HAS IT ON HER WEBSITE, PERHAPS. UH, IS THAT SOMETHING WE COULD ALSO MAYBE PUT ON THE MAIN WEBSITE AS WELL? CERTAINLY, YEAH. FOR PEOPLE PUBLICIZE IT, IT'S ON OUR WEBSITE AS WELL. IT SEEMS LIKE TO ME THAT THERE ARE PEOPLE OUT THERE THAT MAY WANNA BUY SOME TIES, YOU KNOW, AND MIGHT GET FOR A GOOD PRICE, YOU KNOW, SO, JUDGE, I MIGHT ADD TOO, AND I JUST TALKED TO SOME FOLKS IN KEMP ABOUT THIS AS WELL. I'M WORKING ON GETTING A FACEBOOK PAGE OUT THAT RELATES ONLY TO TAXED SALE PROPERTIES IN COFF COUNTY. OKAY. SO THERE'LL BE SOMETHING THAT PEOPLE CAN LIKE, UH, AND THEN PERPETUALLY BE FRIENDS WITH OR BE, YOU KNOW, IT'LL SHOW UP ON THEIR FACEBOOK. SO IT'S A GOOD WAY OF GETTING, UH, WORD OUT TO PEOPLE WHO AREN'T GONNA TYPICALLY BE LOOKING AROUND AT THE PROPERTIES OR GOING TO THE TAX OFFICE. IT'LL BE MORE OF A, YOU KNOW, MAINSTREAM I GUESS MEDIA, UH, ELECTRONICALLY FOR THOSE OF US THAT DO FACEBOOK, WHICH, UH, , WE PROBABLY WON'T TAKE A VOTE AROUND THIS TABLE OR SHOW UP HANDS. JOE JOHNSON SAID, AS A YOUNG, NOT ME, I'M THE ONLY GUY, BUT, UH, UH, I, I KNOW THAT FACEBOOK EXISTS. UH, ARE THERE, ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS Y'ALL HAVE ABOUT, UH, EITHER ONE OF THESE REPORTS THAT I CAN, CAN ANSWER FOR? ARE YOU GETTING THE SUPPORT FROM THE JPS ON TURNING THEIR CASES OVER AS SOON AS POSSIBLE? WE, WE REALLY ARE. AS FAR AS FAR AS I KNOW, COMMISSIONER, WE ARE, WE'RE GETTING GOOD. YOU KNOW, I, I ONLY WORK IN THE PRECINCTS THREE AND FOUR AND THEY ARE REALLY DOING A GOOD JOB OF STAYING UP WITH US. AND, UH, IN FACT, UH, LAST TIME I WAS AT PRECINCT FOUR, UH, STAFF THERE WAS TELLING ME THAT THEY, THEY REALLY LIKED WORKING WITH OUR PEOPLE IN SAN ANTONIO. YOU KNOW, IF, IF THEY GOT A QUESTION, SOMEBODY'S GETTING BACK TO 'EM. SO I THINK WE'VE GOT A REALLY GOOD WORKING RELATIONSHIP AND THAT'S HELPING THINGS THAT, THAT, THAT'S HELPING PERPETUATE EVERYBODY DOING, DOING THEIR PART. I GUESS THE QUESTION WOULD BE, ARE THEY GETTING IT TO YOU IN THE MINIMUM AMOUNT OF TIME? THEY, THEY'RE NOT DRAGGING OUT TRYING TO COLLECT IT THEIR SELF 'CAUSE NO, THEY'RE NOT. WELL, 60 DAYS IS, AND I THINK, I THINK COMMISSIONER THE ANSWER YOUR QUESTION IS, I THINK THERE MAY HAVE BEEN SOME OF THAT EARLY ON, BUT THEY FOUND OUT IT'S MORE EFFICIENT, MORE EFFICIENT FOR THEIR TIME, AND IT'S A MORE EFFICIENT USE OF OUR TIME IF THEY GO AHEAD AND JUST GET IT TO US. AND SO WE TAKE OFF, ALRIGHT. PRECINCT ONE OR TWO INSPECTIONS HAVE BEEN UP SINCE THE FIRST OF THE YEAR ALSO. SO A, A, A LITTLE BIT. THEY HAVE, UH, THEY UH, I THINK, I THINK PRECINCT ONE IN PARTICULAR DROP BACK SOME THIS MONTH, BUT THEY'VE HAD A COUPLE OF GOOD MONTHS AND, AND I, YOU KNOW, I I I'M NOT AS CLOSELY ATTUNED TO THEM, ALTHOUGH I DO CHECK IN AND MAKE SURE EVERYTHING'S GOING OKAY WITH IT BECAUSE ONE OF THE REASONS IS, 'CAUSE I KNOW I'M COMING TO, TO SEE THE COURT AND I, IF THERE'S CONCERNS OR PROBLEMS THEY HAVE THAT I, THAT I CAN HELP YOU WITH, I'M GONNA RELAY THOSE TO YOU AS WELL. SO, BUT THEY, BUT THEY, THEY DROPPED BACK AGAIN A LITTLE BIT IN MARCH, BUT IN JANUARY, FEBRUARY THEY HIT YOU UP. ALRIGHT. ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON ITEM NUMBER THREE? IT DOESN'T REQUIRE ANY TYPE OF APPROVAL. UH, BUT IF NOT, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND MOVE TO ITEM NUMBER FOUR. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. UH, AND THAT DOES, UH, CONSIDER APPROVING, UH, MS. IFF, UH, INFAMOUS SALE ON MAY 20TH THAT WE'VE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT, RIGHT. UH, PROVING THE SALE OF TAX RESALE PROPERTY, THAT A PUBLIC AUCTION MAY THE 20TH, 2014 WITH A STARTING BID OF ONE FOURTH OF THE CURRENT APPRAISED VALUE AND THAT APPRAISED VALUE WOULD BE THE APPRAISAL DISTRICT VALUE. THAT'S CORRECT. SO WE NEED A STARTING POINT AND WE JUST SORT OF PICK THAT AS A PLACE TO START. ANYBODY HAVE ANY THAT'S A GOOD IDEA. I DO. I THINK, I THINK THERE'LL BE A LOT OF INTEREST IN IT, UH, PERSONALLY. SO DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE? YES. UH, COMMISSIONER SHANE MAKES THAT MOTION. HOW ABOUT A SECOND? SECOND, UH, COMMISSIONER MANNING SECOND MOTION. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. OPPOSED? OPPOSED, ADAM. NUMBER FIVE IS TO DISCUSS, CONSIDER APPROVING THE CONTRACT WITH ONE OF THE KAUFMAN COUNTY TAX OFFICE AND THE ENTITY THEY COLLECT TAX AND ASSESS TAXES FOR AND AUTHORIZING THE COUNTY JUDGE TO UH, SIGN THIS ARGUMENT WAS PREPARED BECAUSE IN GOING THROUGH SOME OF THE, UH, CONTRACTS IN THE OFFICE, I KNOW THAT THIS ONE HAD NOT BEEN UPDATED IN ABOUT 12 YEARS. SO IT WAS JUST TIME TO UPDATE IT AND I LET 'EM KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, WE SIGNED A NEW CONTRACT AND, AND LET 'EM KNOW HOW MUCH, UM, BASICALLY THAT [00:45:01] EACH, EACH YEAR THEY'RE, THEY'RE GONNA BE ON THE HOOK FOR WHATEVER YOU DECIDE IS GONNA BE THE AMOUNT THAT THEY PAID FOR PARCEL AND THE REST OF IT IS PRETTY MUCH LAID A LEASE. THIS HAS GONE THROUGH THE CIVIL ATTORNEYS FOR APPROVAL AND UH, THEY HAD A COUPLE OF CHANGES FOR ME TO MAKE, WHICH I MADE AND THEY APPROVED THIS FORM ALREADY AS TO CONTENT. AND THE ONLY THING THAT I RECOMMEND WE CHANGE HERE, UH, WE DID PUT THE DATE ONE MAY 'CAUSE AT THE TIME I WAS WORKING ON IT, I THOUGHT WE WOULD HAVE IT THROUGH COMMISSIONER'S COURT, BUT, UH, DIDN'T GET IT IN IN TIME. SO I JUST RECOMMEND WE CHANGE IT TO THE FIRST DAY OF MAY OF JUNE THAT THEY GET IT BACK TO US SIGNED. OKAY. SO THAT'S ALL WE'RE LOOKING AT. IS THAT GIVING 'EM A MONTH TO GET THROUGH THEIR PROCESS OF WHENEVER THEIR MEETINGS MIGHT BE? THIS IS FOR OUR CURRENT COLLECTIONS ONLY. YES. THIS IS JUST TO SAY WE HAVE AN AGREEMENT WITH YOU, THE CITY, THE SCHOOL, AND THIS IS WHAT WE DO AND THIS IS WHAT YOU DO AND THIS IS WHAT YOU PAY. OKAY. I KNOW LAST YEAR WHEN YOU FIRST STARTED, YOU CAME IN AND LOOKED AT WHAT WE WERE CHARGING THE ENTITIES, RIGHT. AND WE RAISED IT, UH, SOME, BUT I THINK YOU ALSO INDICATED AT THAT TIME THERE MIGHT BE AN ADDITIONAL INCREASE THIS YEAR. HAVE YOU HAD A CHANCE TO STUDY THAT? I HAVE NOT LOOKED AT PROPOSING AN INCREASE FOR THE NEXT YEAR. IN FACT, THIS, UM, I NOTICED THAT IT APPEARS TO BE THE, RIGHT NOW I'VE GOT IT DOWN FOR THE, THE NEXT YEAR TO BE THE SAME AMOUNT UNLESS WE CHANGE IT. AND BASICALLY WHAT THIS SAYS IS THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY'LL, THEY'RE GONNA PAY WITH COMMISSIONER'S COURT. OKAY. AND OF COURSE, ALL THE ENTITIES ARE FORGETTING TO WORK ON THEIR BUDGETS. AND SO THEY, SO I KIND OF WANT GET THIS OUT, MAKE SURE, UH, RIGHT NOW I'M, I'M PROPOSING THAT WE JUST LEAVE IT THE SAME FOR NEXT YEAR FOR ONE MORE YEAR UNTIL WE HAVE ANOTHER GOOD LOOK AT THINGS. OKAY. 'CAUSE WE RAISED IT A PRETTY GOOD BIT, BUT I THINK IN ANOTHER YEAR WE WILL BE READY TO RAISE IT AGAIN. AND I SAY THIS SOMEWHAT IN JEST, DO WE HAVE ANY DELINQUENT, UH, ENTITIES THAT HAVEN'T PAID US THAT WE NEED TO, UH, AND WE'RE NO, WE'RE DOING GOOD ENTITIES PAY US FINE BECAUSE WE TAKE THE MONEY, WE TAKE THE MONEY OUT OF WHAT'S PAID TO US, THAT THEY OWE US BEFORE WE SEND THEM WHAT'S LEFT. SO THAT'S HOW THEY PAY US. I JUST TRYING TO BRING A LITTLE TO THE MEETING. WELL, ONE THING THAT, IT IS AN ISSUE THOUGH THAT WE, WE MAY WANNA BE CONSIDERING LATER ON CHARGING, WHICH IS THAT IT TAKES UP, I DIDN'T KNOW THIS UNTIL IT HAPPENED, BUT ONE ENTITY DECIDED TO GO WITH A DIFFERENT ATTORNEY AND IT TAKES UP AN EXTREMELY, UH, LARGER AMOUNT OF OUR TIME WITH A DIFFERENT ATTORNEY BECAUSE WE HAVE DIFFERENT SETS OF, OF, UH, BOOKS WE HAVE DIFFERENT THINGS WE HAVE TO DO. WE HAVE DIFFERENT LETTERS THAT GO OUT. UM, AND BECAUSE IT'S JUST ONE ENTITY PULLED OUT OF THE WHOLE GROUP, THEN THAT WHOLE GROUP GETS TWO TAX BILLS INSTEAD OF ONE. AND IT'S, IT'S, IT'S LIKE THEY NEED TO BE CHARGED THE, UH, FOR THE AMOUNT OF PARCELS FOR OUTSIDE THE COUNTY. IT'S LIKE HAVING, WORKING WITH PARCELS OUTSIDE THE COUNTY, IT'S THAT MUCH MORE WORK. SO WE MIGHT WANNA CONSIDER CHARGING PEOPLE WHO GO WITH A DIFFERENT ATTORNEY, THE, UH, OUTSIDE THE COUNTY AMOUNT PER PARCEL BECAUSE OF THE AMOUNT OF EXTRA WORK THAT IT PUTS ON THE OFFICE. BUT FOR THIS YEAR, YOU ARE RECOMMENDING THAT WE STAY WITH THE SAME CONTRACT OR SAME PRICE THAT WE HAD LAST YEAR? I AM, EXCEPT THAT, I WOULDN'T MIND YOU CONSIDERING THAT THE ONE ABOVE THE ATTORNEY CHANGE AND, UM, WE, WE'VE SET THIS UP WHERE WE CAN, WE CAN CHANGE EXHIBIT A AND THEY BASICALLY, UH, THIS IS WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT RIGHT NOW, WHAT WE'RE GIVING THEM. BUT IF WE WANT TO CHANGE EXHIBIT A, WHICH IS HOW MUCH WE CHARGE THEM, UM, THAT WE'RE TELLING THEM THAT, UM, THEY AGREE TO PAY WHAT THE COMMISSIONERS THINK IS FAIR. WERE, WAS THAT PARTICULAR ENTITY INFORMED THAT THEY MIGHT HAVE A HIGHER CHARGE? UH, WHENEVER THEY DECIDED TO GO WITH THE OTHER ATTORNEY? IT WAS KIND OF DONE BEFORE I EVEN KNEW ABOUT IT. SO NO, BECAUSE THEY JUST DID IT AND THEN SAID HERE IT'S A DONE DEAL. WE'VE CHANGED. OKAY. MY ONLY CONCERN ABOUT CHANGING IT NOW WOULD BE THE FACT THAT THEY'VE NOT BUDGETED FOR THAT. MM-HMM . I MEAN, THEY WOULD NEED TO KNOW THE BUDGET FOR THAT INCREASE. BUT, UH, I THINK TO BE FAIR TO THEM, IF YOU DECIDE THAT YOU THINK WE SHOULD DO THAT, THAT WE SHOULD MAYBE HAVE WAIT ANOTHER YEAR. YEAH. IF YOU WANT TO PURSUE IT THIS YEAR, WE SHOULD GET WITH THAT ENTITY AND, AND LET THEMAND YEAH. YES SIR. I UNDERSTAND THAT. AND I AGREE WITH THAT BECAUSE I WOULDN'T WANT THROW IT ON 'EM BEFORE THEY, UH, IF WE'RE GONNA DO ANYTHING, WE NEED TO DO IT BEFORE ONE JULY WHEN A LOT OF THE SCHOOLS ARE CHANGING THEIR BUDGETS TO WIN JULY. WELL THAT WOULD BE A 60 CENT INCREASE FOR PARTIAL, WHICH SUBSTANTIALLY WOULD BE A PRETTY GOOD, PRETTY GOOD CALL FOR. EXACTLY. BUT, UH, IT, IT IS, UM, A LOT MORE WORK COMMISSIONERS. ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? WOULD ANYBODY IN OWNERS WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THAT, [00:50:01] THAT ISSUE? I'M SORRY? WOULD YOU LIKE TO ADDRESS THAT ISSUE OR ARE YOU FINE WITH IT? WELL, IF WE LEAVE THE FEE THE SAME, WE'RE FINE WITH THAT. OKAY. IF WE CAN DECIDE THE RATE, THE FEE, AND YET WE HAVE AN ISSUE WITH THAT, THAT, THAT, YOU KNOW, WHY LAW THAT HAS TO BE PROVED UP WHAT THAT EXTRA WORK IS. SO IT'S NOT JUST A SET AMOUNT. WE CAN JUST SAY THIS IS WHAT WE'RE GONNA RAISE IT. YOU HAVE TO TELL US EXACTLY WHAT THAT EXTRA WORK IS. THAT TIME THAT GOES INTO THAT, ALL THAT IS, I MEAN THAT'S WHAT THE, THE LAW YOU'RE REFERRING TO. OH, ABSOLUTELY. AND WE HAD THAT READY LAST YEAR, GAVE IT TO THOSE ENTITIES TO ASK FOR IT. SO THAT'S NOT A PROBLEM. OKAY. BUT WE'RE NOT PROPOSING TO DO THAT. NO, WE'RE NOT. UH, WE WOULD COME BACK AND DECIDE. I THINK WE GO WITH WHAT WE HAVE FOR RIGHT NOW AND NOTIFY THAT YEAR, YEAR BE INCREASE. THEY CAN BUDGET FOR YOU CAN SEND A LETTER WITH YOU. I THINK WE SHOULD SEND THIS OUT NOW AND THEN WE SHOULD DISCUSS IF WE WANT TO DO THIS, IF WE WANT, UNLESS YOU'RE SURE THAT WE WANT IT BRINGS IT. UH, BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE POSITIVE WITH THAT OR YOU'RE STILL DISCUSSING THAT WELL, PART WELL, MY ONLY CONCERN IS WE CAN SEND A LETTER SAY MAY. YEAH. IF, IF, IF WE'RE GOING TO DO THAT, WE NEED TO DO IT VERY SOON BECAUSE THE ENTITY, SOME OF 'EM, THEIR BUDGET YEARS START, UH, WHEN JULY. RIGHT. SOME OF THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS STARTED JULY THE FIRST, THEIR BUDGET YEARS. SO WE'RE FAST APPROACHING THAT. NOT ALL OF THEM, BUT SOME OF 'EM DO. SO, UH, BUT FOR THIS MEETING I'VE SPOKE, WE'LL JUST STOP WATCH HERE AND THEN THAT WOULD BE A CONVERSATION WE PROBABLY NEED TO HAVE PRETTY, PRETTY SOON. AND I, I, UH, AS, UH, MR. HOLLAND STATED THAT THERE IS DOCUMENTATION YES, THAT WOULD SHOW WHAT THIS INCREASED COST WOULD BE, THAT WOULD NEED TO BE PROVIDED TO THONEY ISD IF WE CHOSE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT. RIGHT. OKAY. BUT FOR THE MOMENT, WE'LL JUST, I WANNA MAKE A MOTION, WE APPROVE THIS WITH EXHIBIT A AS IS. OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR FROM COMMISSIONER CLARK. WE HAVE A SECOND. SECOND. UH, COMMISSIONER WAS HERE. SECOND. SECOND. ANY OTHER DISCUSSIONS? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. AYE. OPPOSED? THANK YOU MA'AM. THANK FOR BRINGING THIS TO US. ALL RIGHTY. UH, I BELIEVE THAT GETS US DOWN TO OUR CLOSED SESSION AND I WOULD LIKE TO, UH, HAVE A MOTION TO, UH, EXIT OUR REGULAR MEETING AND ENTER INTO AN EXECUTIVE SESSION AT APPROXIMATELY 10 22. I MAY HAVE A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER ME AND A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER SHANE. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. THOSE OPPOSED? ALRIGHT, WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO IS THE AUDIENCE CAN STAY HERE AND WE ARE GOING TO WALK DOWN THE HALL THROUGH A ROOM WHERE WE'LL MEET AND WE'LL BE BACK SOON AS WE CAN. THEN JOHN, YOU'LL BE, UH, THAT WAY TOO. SO I'M KNOW. YOU GOTTA BE . ALRIGHTY. ITEM NUMBER 12 IS DISCUSSION AND, UH, POTENTIAL ACTION. UH, HER TO AUTHORIZE EXECUTION AND FILING OF AN ABSTRACTIVE JUDGMENT. UH, WHETHER ONE OR MORE AND THE INITIATION AND COMPLETION OF COLLECTION PROCEDURES REGARDING A MONETARY JUDGMENT OWED TO KAUFFMAN COUNTY AND CAUSE NUMBER 6 6 1 6 4 UH, DASH 86 IN THE DISTRICT COURT OF KAMAN COUNTY. AND THAT, UH, BE, UH, MORE SPECIFIC IS THE, UH, CONES LAWSUIT, UH, ISSUED. SO WHAT IS YOUR, UH, PLEASURE ON ITEM NUMBER 12? IF YOU WANT TO ENTER INTO A, UH, AN ABSTRACT JUDGMENT ON APPROXIMATELY 37,000 WORTH FEES, I BELIEVE IS DISTRICT 37 ON THE DISTRICT CLERK'S OFFICE. HOW MAY WE AUTHORIZE THE FILING OF THE ABSTRACT JUDGMENT? OKAY, WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER CLARK TO FILE THE EXTRACT OF JUDGMENT IN CA COUNTY. UH, CALLS NUMBER 6 6 1 6 4 DASH EIGHT SIX IN THE DISTRICT COURT OF KAMAN COUNTY. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. COMMISSIONER MANNING SECOND. A MOTION, UH, FURTHER DISCUSSION. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. AYE. THOSE OPPOSED? A YOU'RE GOING TO VOTE YES. YES. YES. UH, SO MOTION CARRIES ON A THREE TO ONE VOTE AND WHO VOTED NO, MR. ZA. ITEM NUMBER 13 IS TO DISCUSS AND, UH, POTENTIAL ACTION DEEMED NECESSARY FOLLOWING, UH, ACTION. AND THAT SHOULD BE ON ITEM NUMBER TWO THAT WE DISCUSSED IN THE [00:55:01] EXECUTIVE SESSION. NUMBER 10. NUMBER 10, I'M SORRY. UH, AND DO WE HAVE, UH, WHAT'S YOUR PLEASURE ON ITEM NUMBER 13 AS IT RELATES TO ITEM NUMBER 10, WHICH, UH, I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE, UH, PAY THE PRICE THAT, UH, WAS NEGOTIATED, UH, FOR THE FALCON STEEL PROPERTY, WHICH WAS 35 30 5,000. 35,000? NO. OKAY. THIS IS FOR THE RIGHT OF WAY, RIGHT OF WAY HIGHWAY 30 34. OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION, UM, FROM COMMISSIONER ROSA. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND, UH, COMMISSIONER, UH, CLARK SECONDS OF THE DISCUSSION. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. A. THOSE OPPOSED. ALRIGHTY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. NOW WE'LL MOVE INTO LINE ITEM TRANSFER FAVOR. WE ONLY HAVE, I THINK, FOUR LINE ITEMS. TRANSVERSE. DO Y'ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? WHAT'S THE REASON FOR THE JAIL EXPENSE, UH, INCREASE IN THE SECURE EQUIPMENT AND MAINTENANCE? THIS WAS THE ONE I WAS TELLING YOU ABOUT THAT, UM, WE HAD ORIGINALLY IN THE 2013 BUDGET, WE HAD AMENDED IT TO FUND IT UP TO DO THE POD ON THE PODS. THEY BILLED US PARTIALLY IN THAT FISCAL YEAR. AND BECAUSE THEY DID NOT BILL US UNTIL, UH, FEBRUARY, IT WAS TOO FAR INTO THE FISCAL YEAR, THEY EVEN REFERENCED THAT PO COMMISSIONER, IF YOU'LL LOOK YEAH. COULDN'T PUT IT BACK ON LAST YEAR. RIGHT. JACK HAD ISSUED IT IN AUGUST AND THAT'S WHEN WE AMENDED THE BUDGET IN AUGUST. SEE, COVER THAT. SO THAT'S THE ONLY THING I KNOW TO DO UNLESS YOU WANT ME TO HIT FUND BALANCE. I DON'T KNOW WHERE ELSE TO TAKE IT. I WOULD. I AND THAT WAS THE EXACT AMOUNT THAT WAS LEFT DIFFERENCE THAT WE GOT FOR PAYMENT TODAY. AND THIS IS THE SECOND POD WE'RE WORKING ON, SHERIFF, I BELIEVE, ON THE, UH, LOCKS THAT WE'RE REPLACING, I BELIEVE THAT'S CORRECT. RIGHT? THIS WAS THE FIRST POD? WELL, THIS WAS THE FIRST POD. YES SIR. WE BUDGETED FOR IT LAST YEAR. Y'ALL APPROVED IT IN AUGUST. WE PAID 47,000 OUT IN SEPTEMBER. WE DIDN'T GET THE REST OF THE BILLING UNTIL FEBRUARY, AND THAT WAS TOO MANY MONTHS PAST THE CLOSE FISCAL. OKAY. OTHER QUESTIONS? AND THEY HAVE A REMAINING BALANCE OF 182,000. WHERE YOU SEEING THAT SIR? NO SIR. THAT'S, THAT'S, UH, THIS IS THE INVOICES THAT WE ACCRUED. THEY'RE ALL, IF YOU ADD 'EM UP, THEY'RE ALL 182. OH, OKAY. THE AMOUNT OF REMAIN IN THERE. 3 74. YES, SIR. SO WE'VE DONE ONE POD SO FAR. THAT'S ONE POD COMPLETED. COMMISSIONER SHANE. THEN THEY'RE WORKING ON THAT SECOND POD AND WE'VE MADE PARTIAL PAYMENTS ON IT TOO. OKAY. SO WE'LL PROBABLY HAVE TO REMEMBER THE BUDGET SOME FOR YES. OUR, IF THEY SPREAD IT OUT LIKE THEY DID. ALL RIGHT. OTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT THE, DID THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? UH, YES IT DID. OKAY. I THINK THAT ONE'S YOUR . ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT ANY OF THE LINE ITEM? TRANSFER? THE, UH, JAIL EXPENSE. ALRIGHT, WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER SHANE. SECOND APPROVE LINE ITEM TRANSFER. HAVE A SECOND. UH, FROM COMMISSIONER MANNING. UH, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. THOSE OPPOSED? ALL RIGHT. ITEM NUMBER 13 IS TO DISCUSS CLAIMS FOR PAYMENT. UH, THE CLAIMS FOR PAYMENT ARE $937,700 AND 39 CENTS. I'LL TAKE THIS. HOW'S THAT? BEFORE Y'ALL GET INTO THE BILLS, CAN I HAVE IT A LITTLE BIT IN YOUR TIME? EXPLAIN SOMETHING TO YOU. Y'ALL ENTERED INTO THE CONTRACT WITH [01:00:01] KAC. THEY FARED THE JUDGE OR THAT FARED ME A QUOTE ON THE FINANCES AND I AGREED THAT THE FINANCE SIMPLY FOR THE REASON THE INTEREST RATE WAS LOWER THAN WHAT I CAN GET ANYWHERE ELSE. I WAS FEDEX. THE PAPERS THAT YOU SIGNED INTEREST RATES CHANGED QUITE A BIT. I'M NOT GONNA GIVE IT TO YOU SIGNED UNLESS Y'ALL JUST GONNA SIGN IT, BUT I'M GONNA ARGUE IT. WELL, THEY'VE GONE UP ON THE INTEREST RATE. INTEREST RATE IS EXPRESSED AT 3.194 AND IT TOLD US IT'S 2.19. I AGREE. IS IN AN AGREEMENT THAT I SEND IT BACK? YES. OKAY. I WANTED TO ASK BEFORE I DID THAT. THANK YOU. YOU'RE GONNA SEE SOME LARGE CHECKS TO S INITIATIVE IN AUTOZONE. IT'S THAT TIME OF YEAR. UM, THAT'S ON THE REBATE. THAT'S THE REBATE AGREEMENT. ABATE ABATEMENT AGREEMENT. UH, THIS IS THE LAST YEAR TO 60%. THE REMAINING 10 YEARS WILL BE AT 50%. IF YOU NEED TO SEE MY CALCULATIONS. WHY IS THERE TWO ACCOUNTS FOR THAT VEN AREA? 'CAUSE THEY, THAT'S THE WAY THEY REQUESTED IT. ONE'S PAID THE AUTO ZONE, ONE'S PAID TO VENUS INITIATIVE. BUT IT'S ON THE SAME PROPERTY. YEAH, IT'S INVENTORY. ONE OF THEM'S INVENTORY. OKAY. SO IF YOU NEED TO SEE THOSE CALCULATIONS, I HAVEN'T BACK THAT IN AGREEMENT, BUT IN OUR BUDGET THEY'RE PROBABLY BOTH LISTED AS VENUS INITIATIVE. YES SIR. THEY ARE. I'VE GOT BOTH THOSE DOLLAR MAP WILL ADD UP TO THE VENUS INITIATIVE IN THE BUDGET. YES SIR. OKAY. AND I'VE GOT IT IN, IT HAS TO BE SPLIT. IT'S IN GENERAL ROAD BRIDGE AND THE DESK. I COULDN'T HEAR DID THE ROAD BRIDGE GIVE YOU, I MEAN IT WAS ALL ABATED UNFORTUNATELY. SEND IT THIS AFTERNOON. YES SIR. OKAY. PAID AND 60% OF WHAT THEY GET BACK AND THEN THAT'S, THAT'S YOUR 62 VENUS AND THEN THAT'S THE 60 TO AUTOZONE. IT'S NOT A TAX ABATEMENT. I MEAN KIND OF USE THIS ONE BECAUSE REBATE. REBATE, A TAX ABATEMENT CAN ONLY BE FOR 10 YEARS. YEAH, THIS WAS WRITTEN AND SEE WHAT I HAVE TO DO COMMISSIONER, I HAVE TO PRINT ALL THAT OUT AND PAID US. THIS SHOWS ME ON THAT SITE THAT THEY ACTUALLY PAY ME THAT AMOUNT SO THEY PAY IT AND THEN WE GIVE IT BACK TO MM-HMM . AT LEAST THEY KEEP 40%. YEAH. UH, SCANS. YEAH, I SIR, I DIDN'T HEAR YOU. YES SIR. , I DUNNO WHAT THAT'S FOR. THAT'S JUST KIND OF STRANGE. STRANGE COMPANY. YEAH. AMMO. THAT'S PROBABLY, [01:05:22] I THINK THAT'S ABOUT WHAT FUEL, AS LONG AS IT DIDN'T SAVE JJ PRETTY GOOD. LOSS OF FUEL. THAT'S . YEP. IS THAT ON PILLS? THAT'S ON THREE ROADS. THE BIG CHECK. IS THAT THE BIG CHECK? THAT'S THE BIG CHECK. THAT CHECK WILL BE BOARDED BECAUSE IT'S CHARGED TO THE WRONG LINE AND IT'LL BE CORRECTED. YOU DID CHARGE AT THE PRECINCT ONE DIDN'T. YOU DIDN'T? YES. IT HAS 400,000. THAT'S IN THE BOND FUND. YEAH, HE TOLD ME IT WAS OKAY. CHOKED. NO, I'M JUST KIDDING. WHAT HAPPENED WITH THAT HUGE BILL THAT WAS THE UH, CARE, UM, IN HEALTH. REMEMBER THE LAST COURT WE TOOK IT OUT? 30,000? YEAH, I CHECKED ON THAT. I SAW DESIRE AND THAT WAS FOR AN INDIVIDUAL? IT WASN'T FOR THE PERSON. I THOUGHT IT WAS, YOU KNOW, IT WAS FOR ANOTHER PERSON AND SHE, IT WAS LIKE 160 AND SHE NEGOTIATED IT DOWN. SO WE PAID IT. ONE THAT PAYING IT. MM-HMM . THAT BLEW A HOLE IN HER BUDGET BUT IT PRETTY HARD TO GET IT DOWN. YEAH, WELL IT'S A SOFTWARE WE BOUGHT HER TOO. THAT HELPS. YEAH. PRETTY QUIET OUT THERE. NOT WHEN YOU GET OUT THERE GETTING THESE THINGS EARLY ROCK GONNA DONATE THEIR TO. YEAH. WHY WE PAYING THEM 10,000? BECAUSE WE HAD TO REIMBURSE THEM FOR THE SUM THEY SENT OUT TO THEIR, UH, PROSPECTING JURORS AND THEN WE'LL GET REIMBURSED FROM THE STATE. BUT IT, WE, WE CAN ONLY SUBMIT A REIMBURSEMENT TO THE STATE THERE FOR THREE MONTHS AND EVERYTHING WE SUBMITTED. SO PAYING US BACK, WE JUST GOT NOTIFICATION ONE FIVE LAST WEEK. WE GETTING 18,000 BACK. YEAH, THEY'RE, THEY'RE, I MEAN THEY'RE DOING EXACTLY WHAT THEY, AND THAT'S NOT IN THE GENERAL FUND THAT IS CODED TO A SPECIAL FUND COMMISSION. WAS THERE A $4,000 EQUIPMENT, UH, CHARGE TO THAT MURDER CASE? THAT WAS FOR SOME EQUIPMENT THEY HAD BOUGHT FOR THE SECOND MURDER CASE THAT BE GOING ON UP 86 FOR THE GUY THAT THEY GAVE US A GRANT TO UPGRADE THE UH, UH, VIDEO SYSTEM. UH, UH, THE MONITORS AND STUFF. MONITORS AND STUFF LIKE THAT TO UPGRADE THAT . BUT IT'S NOT UNDER THIS CAPITAL MURDER GRANT OR CAPITAL MURDER EXPENDITURES. IT'S TO A DIFFERENT LINE. SEE THIS ONE? IT SHOULD BE, I THOUGHT I SAW THE ONE THAT YOU THAT I HAD ONLINE LIKE A 4,000 EQUIPMENT PLAN. WELL, BUT THERE'S SEVERAL BILLS FLYING AROUND HERE SIR. IT MIGHT BE IN A DIFFERENT ONE. WE MIGHT HAVE WORKED IT AT A DIFFERENT TIME FOR THAT. THERE WAS SOMETHING ON THAT. WHY WOULDN'T IT ALL BE ON THE SAME SHEET? 'CAUSE WE WORKED THEM FOR DIFFERENT PAYMENT DAYS. PAYMENT DAYS. YEAH. AND IT MAY HAVE SOMETHING TO DO WHENEVER WE APPLIED FOR THE FUNDS TOO. I DON'T KNOW. WELL, AND IT DEPENDS ON WHEN BRING THE INVOICE TO US AND WHO SIGNED OFF ON, WAS IT ON WHAT? ANYBODY YOU SEND ME. WAS IT ON ONE SHEET THERE? NO, THIS ONE LOOKS LIKE IT WAS PART OF THE EMERGENCY CHECK RUN THAT WE DID LAST MONDAY ON EMERGENCY. BECAUSE IT WAS PART OF THE CITIBANK BILL, WHICH WE, WE GET THAT'S WHAT I SAW. SEE IT WAS ON THE CREDIT CARD CITY BANK. SO WE HAD TO PAY IT FAST. [01:11:09] THANK YOU SIR. LEAVING RIGHT THERE. AND I'LL STACK MYLO, WHY DON'T WE HAVE BACK ON THE VENUS? YES SIR. SO WE HAVE CHECKS OVER THERE AND NOW WE'VE GOT MANGO CHECKS HERE. IS THAT, THAT IS BECAUSE 60 0 62 IS THE DEBT SERVICE AND IT'S A SEPARATE BANK ACCOUNT THAT WE HAD TO WRITE. OH, 62. WHAT TYPE OF 62 DEBT SERVICE FINANCE. WHAT WERE THE OTHER ONES WRITTEN ON? THEY WERE WRITTEN ON GENERAL FUND AND UH, 20 BRIDGE. THOSE ARE SPECIAL CHECKS. BANK ACCOUNTS THERE. GOOD QUESTION. YEAH, I THINK WE'RE, LOOK AT THIS STUFF. WE, WE SHOULD LOOK AT IT. THAT'S PERFECT. EVENTUALLY WE'LL GET IT. DON'T WORRY. WINDHAM RIVERFRONT. YEAH, THAT IS PAGE ONE. AND THIS IS PAGE ONE? YEAH, PAGE 13. TRYING TO TRICK US. HOW COME WE DIDN'T, HOW COME WE DIDN'T SAY THIS ONE? MY GENERAL PLAN. I NEVER SEND THOSE UNTIL BECAUSE I I HAVE TO. IT'S WHAT NOW WE DON'T SEND THOSE 'CAUSE THEY'RE DONE LIKE WHAT? THOSE ARE THE TUESDAY AND THURSDAY CHECK RUNS THAT I HAVE TO DO. THEY USUALLY CONSIST OF UH, REIMBURSEMENT. SO THIS, THIS, THESE ARE DONE AFTER YOU SEND THAT ORIGINAL THING TO YEAH, I, I HAVE TO DO THAT UH, FRIDAY AFTERNOON BECAUSE I HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL I GET THE INVOICES BACK. THAT'S LOOKING AT, WE'VE ALREADY LOOKED UP. I CAN'T, I CAN TRY TO SEND THAT BUT IT'S JUST GONNA BE, YOU KNOW, LATE AFTERNOON. DID YOU SEND THIS TO US? WHICH ONE? THE ONE WE'RE LOOKING AT RIGHT NOW. IT WAS NOT. SEE THE ONE I HAVE IS TOTALLY DIFFERENT. NO, THE ONLY ONES I WOULD SEND IS THE EMERGENCY CHECK ROOMS ON MONDAYS. AND THE ONES THAT YOU DO TODAY? ONE, ONE ROOM. I'VE NEVER SENT THOSE, BUT I CAN, I ACTUALLY HAVE NO PROBLEMS. THIS HERE? YEAH, I SENT THAT ONE. WOW. YEAH, THAT'S WHY ONE ROOM PLUS I'M LOOKING AT THESE UP BESIDE. I'VE NEVER SEEN THESE BEFORE BUT THAT'S THE REASON WHY WE HAVEN'T SEEN THEM. YEAH, THOSE ARE THE ONES THAT I DO ON TUESDAY AND THURSDAYS AND SO I HAVE TO WAIT FOR THE TREASURER'S OFFICE TO GET THOSE INVOICES BACK TO ME SO I CAN CHECK THEM ALL. THIS WAS ON 4 21. FOUR. FOUR, UH, INTERNATIONAL CIS. THAT'S THE DAY THAT I PRINTED. THAT'S THE DAY THAT I TRIED TO PRINT. SO IT MIGHT HAVE BEEN EITHER THAT THURSDAY OR FRIDAY, BUT I DON'T GET THE INVOICES BACK FROM TREASURE'S OFFICE. BUT YOU COULD SEND THIS TO US UPON ABSOLUTELY. WHAT, WHAT DAY CAN WE GET IT ON? UM, PROBABLY SEND IT THAT THURSDAY IS JUST NOT GONNA BE COMPLETELY CHECKED OFF UNTIL THAT FRIDAY. I HAVE NEVER [01:15:01] HAD AN ISSUE ACTUALLY NOT CHECKING SOMETHING OFF, BUT LEAST, AT LEAST SEND IT TO US ON FRIDAY. SURE. WE LOOK AT IT ON THE WEEKEND OR YEAH. FLAG OR UPDATE SOMETHING WHERE WE KNOW IT'S DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WE GOT. DID THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? YEAH. OKAY. THANK WHILE I'M DOING THAT, DO YOU WANT ME TO START SENDING THE MANUAL CHECK RUNS TOO? THEY'RE GONNA BE DIFFERENT THAN, THEY NOT GONNA BE DIFFERENT FROM WHAT I PRE WHAT WE PRESENT TO YOU, BUT I'VE JUST NEVER EMAILED THEM EITHER. BUT I CAN'T WELL WE'VE ALWAYS KEPT THEM AT THE LAST. YEAH, SURE. ABSOLUTELY DOESN'T COST ANY PAPERS, SO. YEAH. YEAH. SAME. WE KILL ANY TREES. ALRIGHT. RIGHT. WHAT DO WE LEARN AT FRED PRYOR SEMINARS? THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT UM, TAX OFFICE SENT TO ME AND SUCH THAT THEY NEEDED TO GET PAID IMMEDIATELY. COMPUTER AID TWO GRAND. I DUNNO EVEN WHO WENT, WAS IT FRED? IT'S FRED PRIOR MADE IT TO HONOR. I HAVE OPEN, ACTUALLY WHAT THEY EXPLAINED TO ME, IT WAS SOMETHING BASICALLY, WELL I JUST WALKED IN THERE TRAINING MARINE BATTERY FOR MY BOAT. THAT GRAND OPENING AND I HAVEN'T BEEN BACK SINCE. WAS 10 PEOPLE? 10? 10 PEOPLE? 10 AT 199. OKAY. WHAT TWO OR THREE DAY CONFERENCE OR ONE DAY OR? UH, FROM WHAT I WAS TOLD, THAT PAYMENT COVERS THEM FROM ANY OF THE TRAINING FOR THEM OVER THE NEXT YEAR. OH, SO THAT WASN'T A CONFERENCE THEY WENT TO? NO, IT'S FOR AN ANNUAL FEE THAT THEY CAN GO TO ANY OF THEM AND SEND IT TO ME IF THEY WANT. SO IT'S LIKE A PREPAID? MM-HMM . KENNETH, Y'ALL BOUGHT THAT ONE TON FOR 6,700 AND THAT NUMBER. I GUESS ALL, ALL THESE YELLOW ONES HAD TO TAKE 5,000. I DIDN'T EVEN HAVE TO ASK YOU ABOUT THAT ONE. . THANK YOU. THANK YOU. MAY 10TH, NINTH. 10TH MEETING TO THE EIGHTH. YEAH. THURSDAY. THURSDAY? YEAH, HE MADE LAST YEAR. SEE, I WAS THINKING ABOUT GOING DOWN TO GAL BAY TOO EARLY FISHING AND I WAS EMPLOYED MOTHER'S DAYS ON THAT SUNDAY. SO GUESS WHAT? I'M NOT FISHING. TAKE HER WITH YOU. TAKE HER FISHING. WHAT ELSE COULD BE BETTER FOR MOTHER'S DAY? THAT'S EXACTLY RIGHT. EXCEPT TRY THAT EXCEPT MY DAUGHTER PEE AND I'LL LET YOU KNOW THAT. , I CAN TELL YOU WHAT , WHEN MY OLDEST DAUGHTERS WERE LITTLE, THEY WERE LIKE, I DON'T KNOW, FOUR OR FIVE YEARS OLD, THEY WANTED TO GO BUY MY MOM SOMETHING FROM OTHER DAYS. SO I TOOK THEM TO WALMART. CAROL, I CAME BACK WITH A TACKLE BOX FOR, FOR DADDY. THAT DIDN'T GO OVER VERY WELL, [01:20:02] BUT WE DID HAVE A COUPLE FLOWERS FOR MAMA. MY DAUGHTER'S BIRTHDAY'S LIKE 17TH OF MAY. MY SON-IN-LAW'S IS THE 24TH, SO SHE'S A WEEK EARLIER. SO HE, HE BOUGHT HER A, HER BIRTHDAY, A VIDEO CAMERA SO, SO HE COULD TAPE ALL THE KIDS FOOTBALL GAMES. SHE WENT TO FLEW THAT. SO A WEEK LATER SHE SAID GET GONE FOR YOUR BIRTHDAY. EARLY ONE. WASHINGTON KNOW SHE BOUGHT A HOT AIR AND HE'S SCARED. DEATH HEIGHT. . THAT'S WHAT SHE GETS. HER BUYING ME VIDEO CAMERA PAID BACK. WHAT IS THAT? OH YEAH, I CAUGHT, JUDGE, DID YOU GET A CHANCE? PRELIMINARY DAYS? YES. THAT ALL? YES SIR. EXCEPT NOT A BUNCH OF BILLS. YOU, US. UH, I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CLAIMS. SO MAY MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER MANNING AND A SECOND COMMISSIONER SHANE. OPPOSED AND ADJOURNED. READY MEETING COMMISSIONER MANNING MAKES THAT MOTION AND COMMISSIONER SECOND. SECOND, RESOLVE. SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. WE WILL BEGIN OUR MEETING IN THE MORNING AT EIGHT 30 AND WE'LL HAVE OUR FIRST, UH, CANDIDATE AT 8 45. SO WE'LL KIND OF GET OUR, GET OUR PLANS IN YOUR OFFICE. IN MY OFFICE. ALRIGHT. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.