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APPROXIMATELY 8:30 AM FRIDAY, MAY 30TH.
AND, UH, WE HAVE TWO, UH, ITEMS OF VISITS TO CONDUCT THIS MORNING.
THE FIRST ONE, UH, IS, UH, ITEM NUMBER ONE.
THAT IS TO DISCUSS, CONSIDER PURCHASE OF, UH, SURPLUS EQUIPMENT FROM TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION.
LISA, I THINK YOU'RE HERE TODAY, JACK EARLIER.
AND, UH, THANK COMMISSIONER YOU HAVE AND VIEWED AND PRETTY GOOD.
ON SOME EQUIPMENT THAT YOU USED.
WE'RE GETTING A 2000 INTERNATIONAL DISTRIBUTOR TRUCK WITH A, UH, DISTRIBUTOR BED ON IT FOR 25,000.
UH, GETTING A ROLLER FOR 6,000 AND A THREE AXLE FLATBED TRAILER FOR 6,000.
AND I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE PURCHASE OF THIS MOTION FROM SECOND DISCUSSION.
UH, WAS YOUR INTENTION FOR THE TRUCK YOU GOT NOW? YOU GOING KEEP SELL IT? NO, WE'LL PUT IT IN THE NEXT SALE.
I, I'D LIKE TO LOOK AT IT AND SEE IF WE CAN FIX IT.
WE NEED, WE NEED ANOTHER TRUCK DOWN THERE TO DO WHATEVER.
ALRIGHT, IS HAL HERE? YES, SIR.
HAL, THIS IS A BIT OF INFORMATION.
HAL BROUGHT MY, MY OFFICE YESTERDAY AND I INVITED HIM OVER TO PRESENT BEFORE WE START THE, UH, ROAD PRESENTATION, THE ROAD, UH, RIDGES THAT WE, SEVERAL JUDGE, IF YOU, THANKS FOR BEING HERE.
AND, UH, APPRECIATE YOU GETTING US INFORMED EARLY, EARLY ON IN THIS PROCESS SO THE CAN START PLANNING, UH, THEIR, THEIR WORK.
SO YOU WANNA TELL US WHAT YOU HAVE? WELL, THE FIRST PAGE IS JUST FOR REFERENCE, IF IT IS REALLY NOT APPLICABLE, UH, OTHER THAN JUST FOR YOUR REFERENCE, JUST TO RECALL WHAT WE DID LAST, THE LAST GO AROUND THESE BRIDGE, THESE SIX BRIDGES ARE ALREADY BUILT.
THIS IS JUST A, AS A REFERENCE SO YOU CAN RECALL, UH, LAST, LAST GO ROUND.
AND SO, UH, THE NEXT SHEET IS, HAS A LIST OF SEVEN BRIDGES.
UM, AND THESE ARE, THESE ARE THE ALL SYSTEM BRIDGES THAT JUST CAME AROUND FOR REPLACEMENT, THAT MET THE CRITERIA, UH, FOR FUNDING FOR REPLACEMENT IN KAUFFMAN COUNTY.
AND SO, AS YOU CAN SEE IN THE RIGHT HAND COLUMN, IT SHOWS THE, THE FUNDING YEAR THAT THEY'RE SET UP.
THEY'RE CURRENTLY SET FOR, SO COUNTY ROAD THREE 40 AT DUCK CREEK, 1 51 AT PRAIRIE BRANCH 2 79 AT KINGS CREEK, 3 24 AT GREASY CREEK, TRIBUTARY 2 62 AT BACHELOR CREEK AND 40 83 AT COAL IRON CREEK ARE THE SIX BRIDGES.
AND AGAIN, THE FUNDING ON THE RIGHT, UM, I WILL WORK TO, UH, TRY TO COMBINE THESE INTO ONE OR TWO PROJECTS.
MY PREFERENCE WOULD BE ONE PROJECT, AND I'LL, I'LL WORK WITH OUR FUNDING FOLKS TO TRY TO DO THAT, UH, WITH, YOU KNOW, WITH IF IT MEETS, IT MEETS WITH YOUR AGREEMENT.
AND AS YOU CAN SEE, THE, THE PRELIMINARY COST ESTIMATE IS SHOWING 1.7 MILLION FOR THESE BRIDGES.
AND, UH, THE COUNTY PARTICIPATION IS 10%.
BUT AS A, UH, UH, UH, ECONOMICALLY DISADVANTAGED COUNTY, IT'S 5.3% IS YOUR PERCENTAGE, WHICH TOTALS $88,000, WHICH BE YOUR CONTRIBUTION FOR US TO BUILD
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THESE SIX RIVER.AND SO, UM, THE NEXT SHEET, I JUST, UH, AND I BELIEVE THAT THAT CAN BE IN THAT, RIGHT, WELL, THAT'S RIGHT.
CAN, WE'LL, I'LL COVER THAT JUST A SECOND.
SO JUST THE NEXT SHEET JUST SHOWS YOU JUST AN OVERVIEW OF WHERE THE MAPS ARE, I MEAN, WHERE THE, UH, BRIDGE ARE.
AND THEN THE LAST PACKAGE, THE LITTLE, THE BROCHURE IF YOU WILL, UH, ABOUT THE HIGHWAY BRIDGE PROGRAM FOR YOUR INFORMATION.
AND THEN THIS MORNING, IF WE JUST WANT TO KIND OF SKIP TO THE, BEFORE THE END, UM, PAGE 15, START ON PAGE 15 AND DISCUSSES THE EQUIVALENT MATCH.
AND SO, UH, SOME OF YOU ARE ALREADY BEEN THROUGH THIS AND FAMILIAR WITH, UH, JUST KIND OF BRIEFLY, LET'S JUST TOUCH THE HIGHLIGHTS FOR OF IT FOR YOU, JUST SO THAT YOU UNDERSTAND THAT THIS $88,000 CAN BE MONEY, OR IF YOU CHOOSE IT CAN BE AN EQUIVALENT MATCH.
AND IT'S DESCRIBED HERE, UH, IT'S DEFINED AS A LOCAL GOVERNMENT PROJECT THAT IMPROVES THE STRUCTURAL LOAD CAPACITY OR OTHER SAFETY CONDITION OF AN OFF STATE SYSTEM BRIDGE OR OTHER MAINLAND CROSS DRAINING STRUCTURE.
UH, IT CAN INCLUDE BUT IS NOT LIMITED TO PROVIDING IMPROVED STRUCTURAL CAPACITY, IMPROVING HYDRAULICS, INCREASING ROAD BRIDGE, UH, BRIDGE ROADWAY WIDTH, PROVIDING ADEQUATE BRIDGE RAIL, PROVIDING ADEQUATE APPROACH GUARD RAIL.
UM, SO BASICALLY WHAT WE CAN, WHAT WE WILL DO VERY SOON IS ENTER INTO AN AGREEMENT.
UH, I'VE GOT A COPY OF THE ADVANCED FUNDING AGREEMENT THAT WAS DONE LAST TIME.
SO IT'D BE VERY SIMILAR TO THIS WHERE WE'LL ENTER INTO AN AGREEMENT WHERE YOU WILL MOST LIKELY, I, I ASSUME YOU'RE GONNA DO AN EQUIVALENT MATCH IF, IF YOU CHOOSE TO DO THAT, WE'LL ENTER AN AGREEMENT WHERE YOU'LL TELL US WHICH STRUCTURE OR STRUCTURES YOU WANT TO IMPROVE.
AND THE REQUIREMENT IS, UH, FROM, FROM THE TIME WE, WE LED A PROJECT TO REPLACE THESE SIX BRIDGES AND ISSUE A WORK ORDER FROM THE DATE WE ISSUED THAT WORK ORDER, YOU HAVE THREE YEARS TO DO YOUR EQUIVALENT MATCH WORK.
LET, LEMME ASK YOU A QUESTION.
UH, LIKE I'M FIXING THAT TANK UP 3 49 UP THERE, WOULDN'T NOT APPLY TO SOME OF THE MONIES THAT, UH, WOULD OFFSET THIS 5% THAT WE WE'RE GONNA OWE Y'ALL.
AND THEN ALSO, IF WE DO A CULVERT THAT'S AT LEAST FOUR FOOT IN DANGER ON ANY OF THE COUNTY ROADS, WOULDN'T THAT ALSO APPLY AGAINST, UH, AND I SHOULD KEEP GOOD RECORDS ON THAT AS TO WHICH ROAD WE'RE DOING THAT ALL.
HOWEVER, I THINK THERE'S SOME LANGUAGE IN THERE ABOUT THAT.
IT, IT HAS TO BE WORK DONE AFTER A CERTAIN POINT.
I DON'T RECALL IF IT'S AFTER WE ENTER AN AGREEMENT OR AFTER, I THINK IT'S AFTER WE ENTER AN AGREEMENT, BUT IT CAN'T, PREVIOUS WORK CAN'T APPLY.
IT HAS TO BE, IT HAS TO BE AFTER.
SO ALTHOUGH, YOU KNOW, OVER
GIVE SOME CLARIFICATION ON THAT FOR SURE.
I'LL, IT, I'M, I'M ALMOST CERTAIN THAT IT HAS TO BE AFTER WE ENTER THE AGREEMENT, WE CAN'T TAKE PREVIOUS WORK AND APPLY IT.
BUT I, I'LL, I'LL CONFIRM THAT.
WELL, I HAVEN'T DONE YET, BUT WE ARE REPLACING SOME, UH, CODES ON THOSE THAT ARE JUST ABSOLUTELY FLAT.
AND SO IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S PRETTY WIDE OPEN AS FAR AS WHAT, WHAT QUALIFIES, RIGHT.
IT'S, IT'S MORE WIDE OPEN THAN I THOUGHT IT WAS.
UM, SO, UH, WE'LL DEFINITELY GET CLARIFICATION ON THAT SO THAT YOU CAN MAKE SURE THAT WHAT APPLIES ON 40 83 AT
UH, TO BE PERFECTLY HONEST WITH YOU, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT BRIDGE IS GONNA LAST TILL 2019.
I HAD, UH, I HAD SOME INTENTIONS OF DOING SOMETHING TO IT BEFORE I WENT OUT.
AND, UH, JUST WONDERING ABOUT IT.
IF, IF IT BE, UH, POSSIBLY PRIORITIZED AND BUMPED UP ON, ON THE, UH, FRONT OF HERE.
UH, THERE, THERE'S MORE TRAFFIC DOWN THERE NOW THAN THERE,
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THERE HAS PREVIOUSLY BEEN.SO JUST WANTED WE MIGHT, THAT, THAT POSSIBLY BUMPED THAT DEAL UP? I THINK SO.
I THINK IF THE COMMISSIONER COURT SAYS WE WANNA REARRANGE THESE, I THINK THAT'S REASONABLE.
I, I'LL GO A STEP BEYOND THAT THOUGH AND SAY, UM, AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, IT'S, IT, IT JUST MAKES GOOD ECONOMIC SENSE TO COMBINE THESE INTO AT THE MOST TWO PROJECTS.
I THINK WE OUGHT TO HAVE NO MORE THAN TWO, TWO SETS OF THREE PREFERABLY, I'D SAY ONE PROJECT WITH ALL SIX.
SO I WILL, I WILL BE GLAD TO WORK WITH OUR FUNDING FOLKS AND SEE WHAT'S THE EARLIEST DATE WE CAN GET, GET ALL SIX OF THEM IN IF IT MIGHT BE 2016 POSSIBLY, OR, UM, OR IF Y'ALL HAVE ADDITIONAL, THIS IS GOOD INFORMATION, THIS IS WHAT I NEED TO KNOW FROM YOU, PRIORITIZATION, AND IF YOU HAVE ANY REASON WHY YOU WOULD WANT TO PUT OFF ANY TO ANOTHER DATE OR IF YOU, IF IF YOUR PREFERENCE IS WE DO ALL SIX TODAY IF POSSIBLE, THEN THAT'S STUFF THAT, THAT I NEED TO KNOW TO GO WORK WITH THE FUNDING.
WELL, THE, THE THING IS, UH, I WOULD BE HERE, BUT THE, THE COMMISSIONER BE COMING IN BEHIND ME.
UH, I'M GONNA, I'M GONNA POINT THIS OUT TO HIM AND TELL HIM THAT HE'S, HE'S GONNA HAVE TO KEEP AN EYE ON THAT BECAUSE WE SURE DON'T COMPROMISE TO THE POINT WHERE, SO IT COULD BE BUMPED UP.
WE'RE, WE'RE COMPLETELY CAPABLE OF REDO IT OURSELF.
SO WE HAVE, AND THAT THE BED BREED REPLACED WITH CONCRETE BRIDGES LIKE Y'ALL BEEN DOING IN THE PAST.
AND THE, THE YEARS ARE SPREAD OUT FROM 16 TO 19, WOULD YOU SAY THEY COULD BE DONE IN ONE OR TWO PROJECTS? SO WHEN WOULD THEY BEGIN? 16 OR SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 16 AND 19.
THAT'S A, UM, THE FOLKS THAT PUT THAT PLACED THESE IN THOSE YEARS DID IT BASED ON DISTRICT-WIDE FUNDS AND WHAT THEIR BUDGET IS FOR THOSE YEARS, AND THEY FIT THESE IN ACCORDINGLY.
SO I'M, YOU KNOW, I, I'M NOT THE ONE THAT THAT DOES THAT, BUT I, I THINK WHAT HAPPENS IS THEY'LL, THEY'LL SAY, YOU KNOW, FOR EXAMPLE, NAVARRO COUNTY HAS SIX BRIDGES AND THEY'RE ALL SPREAD OUT TOO.
AND THEY MIGHT PUT ALL SIX OF OURS IN 16 AND ALL SIX OF NAVARRA COUNTIES AND 17 OR SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES.
AND SO IT'S, IT'S, IT'S A, IT'S A BALANCE BETWEEN COLIN, DENTON, COFFMAN AND ROCKWALL IN DALLAS COUNTIES.
SO IT'S GONNA BE A, A BALANCE WHERE THEY'LL HAVE TO PLACE THEM AND FIGURE OUT, ANOTHER THING IS, THIS YEAR WE GOT ADDITIONAL FUNDS AND WE EXPECT ADDITIONAL FUNDS NEXT YEAR TO COME LATE IN THE YEAR.
AND SO WHAT WE WANT TO DO IS WE WANT TO HAVE THE PLANS READY, DESIGNED AND ON THE SHELF, EVEN IF, LET'S SAY THESE ARE SET UP FOR 2018, WE WANT TO HAVE 'EM ON THE SHELF IN 2015, SOME FUNDS BECOME AVAILABLE AND WE SAY WE'RE READY FOR IT.
SO DO WE HAVE ANY INPUT AS TO THE DESIGN OF THE BRIDGES? I THINK SO.
WITHIN, WITHIN WHATEVER RESTRICTION.
THE REASON I BRING THAT UP, SOME OF THE BRIDGES Y'ALL HAVE DONE ON A 40 FOOT CREEK, WE HAVE THREE PEDESTALS IN THE MIDDLE OF THE CREEK.
EVERY TIME IT RAINS, ALL THE LOGS COME DOWN THE CREEK JAMMED UP AGAINST ALL THE PEDESTALS.
ON A 40 FOOT CREEK, YOU WOULD THINK THEY'D BE ABLE TO STAY THAT DISTANCE WHERE WE WOULDN'T HAVE THAT PROBLEM BECAUSE IF WE HAVE A MAJOR FLOOD, WE WON'T BE ABLE TO CLEAN THE LOGS DURING THE FLOW.
AND I'M AFRAID IT'S GONNA JAM UP AND WASH OUT POSSIBLY THE ENDS AROUND OUR, OVER THE ROAD SOMEWHERE ELSE.
UM, I JUST, THAT, THAT'S MY CONCERN.
AND I, I'LL BE BACK LATER, BUT IT JUST LOOKED LIKE THEY JUST BLOCKED, BASICALLY BLOCKED THE CREEK WITH UPRIGHT.
SO IT'S A, IS THAT A THREE SPAN THE ONE YOU'RE REFERRING TO? IS IT THREE SPANS? UH, YEAH, MAYBE.
HOW, HOW LONG IS IT? IT'S NOT VERY LONG.
MAYBE THE ENTIRE BRIDGE MAY BE 60 FOOT FROM HEAD WALL TO HEAD WALL AND THERE'S THREE UPRIGHTS IN THE CREEK AND, UH, A 10 FOOT WALL, 12 FOOT WALL CAN'T EVEN GO THROUGH THERE.
THAT'S SOMETHING WE, I'M SURE WE, WE DEFINITELY CAN, I MEAN, WE'RE, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO BALANCE COST, YOU KNOW, EFFICIENCY WITH THE SHORTER SPAN OR WE'LL, WE'LL BALANCE THE COST BENEFIT OF, OF THAT.
AND I'M SURE DEFINITELY TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION.
I PROMISE YOU WE CAN CLEAR SPAN EVERY CREEK, RIGHT.
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YOU KNOW, A HUNDRED FOOT BEAMS AS OPPOSED TO, WELL, IF WE COULD JUST GET INTO 25, 30 FOOT, YOU KNOW, CLEARANCE ON THE MAJOR CHANNEL.YEAH, I THINK THEY'D KEEP THE LOGS YEAH.
WE DEFINITELY TYPICALLY DO THAT.
I'M NOT SURE WHAT HAPPENED IN THAT CASE, BUT WE TYPICALLY TRY TO KEEP 'EM OUT OF THE, AT LEAST OUT OF THE MAIN CHANNELS.
SO, UM, I GUESS WHAT I WOULD ASK OF YOU IS THAT, THAT YOU, I GUESS ONE, ONE THING IS IF, IF THE COURT WOULD PRIORITIZE, IF THERE IS A PRIOR REPRIORITIZATION OF THIS, IF YOU WOULD PROPOSE THAT, JUST ASSUMING THAT THE FUNDING IS GONNA BE SPREAD OUT AS IT'S SHOWN WITH THAT ASSUMPTION, IF YOU'LL REPRIORITIZE IT FOR ME, I THINK WE CAN, THAT, YOU KNOW, WE CAN DO THAT.
AND THEN AGAIN, I'M COUNTING ON GROUPING ON AND GETTING THEM READY EARLY.
SO, UH, THIS IS JUST TO INTRODUCE IT TO YOU, BUT OVER THE NEXT FEW DAYS, UM, I WOULD SAY NEXT WEEK WE NEED TO, UH, I'LL GET WITH YOU AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT AN ADVANCED FUNDING AGREEMENT.
IF YOU COULD START WORKING ON WHAT YOU THINK, UM, YOUR EQUIVALENT MATCH PROJECTS MIGHT BE.
THAT'S ANOTHER THING I, I DIDN'T GET IT READY FOR TODAY ON SHORT NOTICE, BUT VERY SOON I'LL, I'LL GET YOU LIKE THE, THE NEXT BRIDGES.
THESE ARE THE ONES WE SEE AS THE GREATEST NEED.
YOU PROBABLY KNOW IT ALREADY BETTER THAN WE DO, BUT WE'LL GET YOU THE LIST THAT WE SEE AS, AS NEEDS IN CONSIDERATION OF WHERE TO SPEND YOUR MONEY.
UH, SO THE, THE EQUIVALENT MATCH 88 $90,000 CAN BE, SO $10,000 ON NINE DIFFERENT PLACES, OR ONE PLACE, 90,000 OR HOWEVER YOU DECIDE TO DO IT.
WE CAN SET UP THE ADVANCED FUNDING AGREEMENT FOR YOU.
I'M SURE WE COULD COME UP WITH PROBABLY 1525.
WE'LL, ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? NEXT ITEM IS TO DISCUSS HERE AN UPDATE AMONG THE COUNTY TRANSPORTATION PLAN.
AND WE'VE THIS, AND I SEE WE HAVE AT LEAST ONE CITY THAT'S REPRESENTED HERE.
I CAN'T IMAGINE WHY CURTIS WOULD BE HERE.
THIS WHERE IS THE MONEY? YEAH,
AGAIN, MY NAME IS KEVIN JOHNSON WITH FRA NICHOLS.
UM, EXCITED TO BE IN FRONT OF YOU AGAIN AND, AND CONTINUE WORKING WITH THE COUNTY.
UM, WE WANNA SPEND A FEW MINUTES TODAY WALKING THROUGH, UM, TWO OF THE PROJECTS, UM, THAT WERE IDENTIFIED IN THE BOND PROGRAM AND THE STATE COMMISSIONER'S GOT HIS LIST OUT HERE.
UM, IF YOU REMEMBER ON THE, ON THE PROJECT LIST, WE PUT TOGETHER A COUPLE OF THE PROJECTS TOWARDS THE BOTTOM WE PLANNING LEVEL PROJECTS.
UM, ONE OF THOSE WAS A COUNTY TRANSPORTATION PLAN AND A US 80 CORRIDOR PLAN.
BOTH THOSE PROJECTS WERE IDENTIFIED IN THE BOND PROGRAM.
UM, THERE'S A BUDGET FOR ABOUT A MILLION DOLLARS FOR EACH ONE OF THOSE, UM, FOR THOSE PLANS.
AND SO THE, THE PURPOSE TODAY IS TO RUN THROUGH THE SCOPE OF EACH ONE OF THOSE SO THAT, UH, WHEN THAT, WHEN THAT SCOPE AND FEE AND CONTRACT COMES BEFORE YOU AS THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT, UM, A LOT OF THOSE QUESTIONS YOU'VE HAD THIS OPPORTUNITY TO KIND OF VE THE, UH, THE SCOPE.
UH, SO I WANT TO KIND OF RUN THROUGH THAT, UM, WITH YOU THIS MORNING.
UM, LAST, UH, CAN I THROWER PLAN, UH, ADOPTED IN 2002, UM, THROUGH THIS BOND PROGRAM? YOU KNOW, WE ADDRESSED A LOT OF THE IMMEDIATE NEEDS WITH PROJECTS IDENTIFIED.
NOW WE NEED TO POSITION THE COUNTY FOR, UH, 10 YEARS, 20 YEARS OUT AND MOVING FORWARD.
UM, WE'VE TAKEN THIS SCOPE, UH, THAT WE'VE PUT TOGETHER AND WE'VE MET WITH THE CITY'S LISTED HERE.
WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT EACH ONE OF THE CITIES, UH, WAS ON BOARD WITH THIS AND THAT THEIR NEEDS FROM A TRANSPORTATION PERSPECTIVE WERE ACCOUNTED FOR IN OUR SCOPE.
AND WE'VE MET WITH EACH ONE OF THESE CITIES AND THEY'RE ON BOARD WITH THE, UH, WITH THE COUNTY PLAN AND THE HIGHWAY 80 PLAN MOVING FORWARD.
WE'VE ALSO MET WITH THE JUDGE AND, AND REVIEW WITH HIM.
SO THIS IS THE OPPORTUNITY FOR YOU AS COMMISSIONERS TO, TO KIND OF
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ASK QUESTIONS AND, UH, MAKE SURE IT MEETS WHAT YOU THINK IS THE COUNTY NEEDS FOR THE NEXT 10, 20 YEARS.AND AGAIN, THERE'S, WE'RE GONNA, UH, KIND OF GO THROUGH THIS IN TWO PHASES.
FIRST, THE OVERALL COUNTY TRANSPORTATION PLAN AND THEN THE US 80 CORRIDOR PLAN.
JUST A LITTLE BIT ABOUT OUR TEAM, UM, YOU KNOW, FREEZING NICHOLS MULTIDISCIPLINARY ENGINEERING FIRM.
I'M GONNA INTRODUCE EDDIE HAAS HERE IN JUST A MINUTE.
EDDIE IS OUR LEADS, OUR TRANSPORTATION PLANNING GROUP.
WE'VE DONE VARIOUS, UH, TRANSPORTATION PLANS SIMILAR TO THIS FOR MUNICIPALITIES, UH, COUNTIES AND REGIONS, UH, AROUND THE AREA.
EDDIE IS A, IS A TRANSPORTATION PLANNER.
AND SO WE, WE LIKE TO HAVE GOOD DISCUSSIONS ABOUT HIM DRAWING PRETTY MAPS AND, YOU KNOW, US AND THE ENGINEERS GETTING ME OUT HIS BILL.
AND I WANNA, UM, YOU KNOW, ENCOURAGE YOU TO ASK QUESTIONS ON THIS THROUGHOUT.
THIS IS INTENDED TO BE A WORK SESSION, UH, ITEM.
HE'S GONNA RUN THROUGH THE PLAN PURPOSE HERE, BUT I WANT, I WANT TO KIND OF SIMPLIFY IT.
THE COUNTY TRANSPORTATION PLAN IS IN PLACE TO COME UP WITH WHAT ARE THE NEEDS FOR THE COUNTY FOR THE NEXT 20 YEARS.
AND THAT'LL POSITION YOU AS A COUNTY TO GIVE SOME OF THE REGIONAL MONEY THAT'S OUT THERE OVER THE NEXT 20 YEARS.
GOTTA HAVE, QUOTE UNQUOTE, I HATE TO SIMPLIFY IT, BUT YOU GOTTA HAVE LINES ON THE MAP TO SHOW WHAT THE NEEDS ARE FOR THE COUNTY THROUGH THIS STUDY.
WE'LL IDENTIFY THOSE, WHETHER THEY'RE ADDITIONAL LANES, ADDITIONAL RIGHT OF WAY, UH, MANAGE LANES, WHATEVER THAT NEED IS.
IF IT'S A NEW ROAD, A NEW CORRIDOR, THOSE WILL BE IDENTIFIED THROUGH THE PROCESS SO THAT AS YOU WORK WITH THE REGION OVER THE NEXT 20 YEARS, YOU CAN COME TO THE TABLE WITH A MAP AND SAY, WE NEED SOME OF THAT MONEY AS WELL.
IT'S NOT JUST THE DFW OR NOT JUST TYLER KAUFFMAN COUNTY HAS NEEDS AS WELL.
SO THAT'S THE IMPORTANCE OF THE COUNTY PLAN.
AND THEN FROM THE US 80 CORRIDOR PLAN, THE REGION IS CURRENTLY LOOKING AT US 80.
WHAT DOES IT NEED TO LOOK LIKE? WHAT, HOW DOES IT NEED TO FUNCTION 20 YEARS FROM NOW? BUT THE REGION IS MORE OR LESS STOPPING THAT AT THE DALLAS COUNTY KAUFFMAN COUNTY LINE FOR THE MOST PART.
WE FEEL IT'S IMPORTANT FOR THE COUNTY TO HAVE TO SIGN THAT AS WELL.
AND FOR THAT STUDY TO BE EXTENDED THROUGH KAUFFMAN COUNTY TO THE KAUFFMAN COUNTY, ANZAC COUNTY LINE, AND INCLUDE HIGHWAY 80 THROUGH 40.
AND TARRELL, YOU'VE GOT SOME UNIQUE CHALLENGES THAT A, YOU'LL TALK ABOUT, YOU'VE GOT A DIVIDED HIGHWAY THROUGH 40.
WE'VE GOT A, YOU KNOW, A HIGHWAY THAT GOES RIGHT THROUGH THE MIDDLE OF TOWN IN TARRELL.
SO THIS STUDY WILL BE INTENDED TO IDENTIFY MORE SPECIFICALLY WHAT THE NEEDS ARE FOR USD, WHAT ARE THE CONSTRAINTS, THE RESTRAINTS OVER THE NEXT 20 YEARS, WHAT ARE SOME ALTERNATIVES, ET CETERA.
AND SO THOSE ARE THE TWO, UH, THE PLANS THAT WE'RE GONNA TALK THROUGH.
SO I'M GONNA TURN OVER TO EDDIE AND ENCOURAGE YOU TO KIND OF ASK QUESTIONS THROUGHOUT THIS.
NICE TO BE BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING, THIS MORNING, UH, TO, UH, TALK ABOUT THE SCOPE.
UM, I WILL HAND OUT THE, THE DRAFT SCOPE.
IT'S, IT'S, UH, HEAVY READING.
IT'S PROBABLY NOT SOMETHING YOU WANNA DO AT NIGHT
IT IS, IT IS 22 PAGES OF SCOPE.
AND WHAT I, WHAT MY PRESENTATION HAS IS KIND OF COVERING THE HIGHLIGHTS OF EACH ONE.
UM, AS KEVIN MENTIONED, WE HAVE BEEN PREPARING PLANS FOR MUNICIPALITIES, AGENCIES, UM, NPOS, UH, ACROSS THE STATE.
AND SO, UH, WE FEEL WE'RE REALLY POSITIONED WELL TO, TO HELP YOU ALL DEVELOP YOUR PLAN.
UH, BUT IN SUPPORTING US IN THIS PLANNING INITIATIVE, WE HAVE BROUGHT ON THE EXPERTISE OF TWO OTHER FIRMS, UH, ALLIANCE TRANSPORTATION GROUP.
THEY'RE A, A TRAFFIC ENGINEERING FIRM THAT, THAT SPECIALIZES IN TRAVEL DEMAND FORECASTING.
UH, THEY'RE GONNA BE HELPING US WITH THE DEVELOPMENT OF A DETAILED TRAVEL FORECAST MODEL FOR, UH, HOFFMAN COUNTY.
AND THEN, AND WE'LL USE THEM FOR BOTH THE COUNTY PLAN AS WELL AS THE US 80 CORRIDOR.
BUT THEN WE ALSO HAVE, UH, CATALYST RESEARCH, UH, BROUGHT ON BOARD.
UM, THEY'RE, THEY'RE, AND WE SEE THEM AS HELPING US IN THE US 80 CORRIDOR ASSESSMENT BY WAY OF A MARKET SCAN.
THE US 80 CORRIDOR IS, YOU KNOW, AT FIRST OF ALL THE COUNTY LEVEL, WE'RE LOOKING AT LONG-TERM MOBILITY ALIGNMENTS OF FACILITIES NEEDS, UH, POTENTIALLY NEW ROADS.
BUT THE US 80 CORRIDORS IS A DIFFERENT ANIMAL IN ITSELF.
NOT ONLY ARE YOU GONNA HAVE MOBILITY ISSUES WITHIN THAT CORRIDOR, BUT YOU HAVE GROWTH RETAIL, COMMERCIAL GROWTH AGREE WITHIN THAT CORRIDOR.
SO THE IDEA WAS, WE, WE DO A HIGH LEVEL MARKET SCAN AND SAY, OKAY, HOW MUCH, HOW MUCH RETAIL COMMERCIAL GROWTH IS REALISTICALLY GONNA HAPPEN IN THIS CORRIDOR? WHERE MIGHT WE PUT SOME OF THIS? OR WHERE MIGHT IT BE LOCATED SO THAT WE CAN THINK ABOUT SUPPORTING ROADWAY NEEDS TO WHERE THESE AREAS MIGHT BE? SO IN OTHER WORDS, THE KEY KEY NOS OF DEVELOPMENT, WHAT KIND OF SUPPORT ROADWAY NETWORK WOULD BE NEEDED IN PLACE SO WE CAN GET THOSE KIND OF DEVELOPMENTS FUNCTIONAL, GET SOME ECONOMIC BENEFIT, UH, IN THE, ALONG THAT CORRIDOR, BUT THEN MORE IMPORTANTLY, NOT, UH, INCREASE SAFETY OR MOBILITY ISSUES, UM, WITHIN THE CORRIDOR.
SO I'LL BRIEFLY, YOU KNOW, KEVIN KIND OF HIT SOME OF THOSE HERE ABOUT THE PLAN.
THE BENEFIT OF THIS PLAN, YOU ALL ARE, ARE ON TARGET
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WITH NEEDING TO PUT A PLAN AGAINST SO THAT YOU CAN INFORM THE MPO THIS THIS PLAN, THE COUNTYWIDE PLAN IS A STATEMENT OF POLICY.HOW YOU INTEND TO GROW LONG TERM OVER 20 YEARS, CONSIDERING THE GROWTH POTENTIAL OF YOUR, YOUR COUNTY.
UH, SO THAT THAT AGENCIES
SO IT IS ABOUT FRAMEWORK FOR GROWTH AND IDENTIFICATION OF LONG TERM NEEDS, SPECIFICALLY PROJECTS.
BUT THEN ULTIMATELY IT'S ABOUT SYSTEM ALIGNMENTS, RIGHT, OF WAY PRESERVATION AND THEN DESIGN STANDARDS, A COMMON SET OF DESIGN STANDARDS THAT AS THE COUNTY GROWS, THE CITIES MAY HAVE THEIR OWN DESIGN STANDARDS, BUT WHAT ARE THE COUNTY STANDARDS AND HOW CAN WE MAKE SURE THAT THAT ROADWAY IMPROVEMENTS ARE INTEGRATED, YOU KNOW, WITHOUT, UH, SEAMLESSLY, I GUESS I SHOULD SAY, UH, LONG TERM IS THE ROADWAY PROJECTS ARE IMPLEMENTED.
SO WE'RE ALSO TALKING ABOUT THIS PLAN BEING A, A VEHICLE FOR COORDINATING IMPROVEMENTS, KNOW, VERY EXPENSIVE, UH, PROPOSITION ROADWAYS ARE.
AND SO LEVERAGING OTHER POND TO HELP PUT THESE PROJECTS ON THE GROUND GREATLY IMPORTANT AS PART OF THIS COORDINATION, NOT ONLY WITH MPO YOUR NET RMA, BUT THEN ALSO, UM, TDOT AND CITIES PARTICIPATION FROM THE CITIES ALSO HELPS IN INFRASTRUCTURE COORDINATION.
BUT THEN ULTIMATELY THE CIP DEVELOPMENT, THAT'S THE, THE KEY THING.
YOU'RE ON IT WITH YOUR BOND PROGRAM IDENTIFICATION, THOSE INITIAL PROJECTS.
BUT AFTER THAT INITIAL BOND PROGRAM, WHERE DO YOU GO FROM THERE? SO THIS IS WHAT'S REALLY GONNA, UH, HELP DRIVE THAT BY WAY OF IMPROVING NEEDS FOR 10 AND 20 YEARS DOWN THE ROAD.
AND THEN ULTIMATELY, YOU KNOW, IT'S ABOUT ECONOMIC BENEFIT.
THE, THESE ARE FACILITIES THAT ARE, WOULD BE PROGRAMMED LONG TERM THAT NOT ONLY DO THEY SATISFY MOBILITY AND SAFETY NEEDS, BUT THEN REALLY THEY'RE ALSO ABOUT AIMED AT HELPING ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TO HELP SUPPORT SOME OF THE GROWTH INITIATIVES THAT THE COUNTY WILL HAVE LONG TERM.
SO THE TRANSPORTATION PLAN, COUNTYWIDE PLAN THAT WILL BE COORDINATED WITH OTHER LOCALLY ADOPTED CITY, COUNTY AND AGENCY PLANS REFLECTED IN EITHER NCT COG PLANNING OR NET RMA FOR, AGAIN, LEVERAGING PROJECTS, IDENTIFICATION OF AND ALIGNMENT, PRESERVATION OF BEING RIGHT OF WAY TO SUPPORT 20 YEAR NEEDS AND INVESTMENTS.
RIGHT? THE 80 CORRIDOR PLAN IS A MORE FOCUSED CORRIDOR PLAN.
SO WE'RE, WE'RE GONNA DO A LOT OF HIGH LEVEL PLANNING COUNTYWIDE WHEN WE USE THAT TRAVEL FORECAST MODEL.
BUT THEN WHEN WE GET INTO THE 80 CORRIDOR, AND WE'RE GONNA USE THE, THE INFORMATION WE'VE DEVELOPED BY WAY OF THIS 20 YEAR PROJECTION AND DO ANOTHER SET OF MICRO LEVEL ANALYSIS SPECIFICALLY ALONG THAT CORRIDOR, WHAT ARE THE NEEDS OF THE CORRIDOR? ARE THERE, UH, CONSTRAINTS WITH THE TERMS OF RIGHT OF WAY THAT SAYS, HEY, MAYBE WE KEEP US 80 AS TWO LANES, MAYBE WE CAN ADD FRONT ROAD.
MAYBE WE CAN'T, MAYBE WE DON'T BUILD MORE THAN FOUR LANES ON US.
80, MAYBE WE GO WITH MANAGED LANES.
ALL THOSE KIND OF ALTERNATIVES WOULD BE DEVELOPED AS PART OF THAT PROCESS AND THEN VETTED THROUGH, UM, A, A ALTERNATIVES, UH, IDENTIFICATION AND, UH, PERFORMANCE MEASURES PROCESS.
LET ME ASK YOU, ON THE, UH, AS YOU GUYS ARE AWARE, I'M SURE THERE'S A LOT OF EMPHASIS BEING PLACED ON INTERSTATE 20 MM-HMM
FROM THE LOUISIANA COUNTY LINE OR STATE LINE TO THE EASTERN PART OF DALLAS COUNTY.
UH, WILL THIS STUDY INCORPORATE THAT STUDY YES.
SO THAT, THAT STUDY IS ON A SEPARATE TRACK.
AND SO THEY, AND WE'RE, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO GET PLUGGED INTO THAT PROCESS JUST SO THAT WE KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON LONG TERM, BUT THERE MAY BE A SPECIFIC SET OF IDENTIFIED IMPROVEMENTS AND OR, UH, MOBILITY STRATEGIES THAT ARE PART OF THAT QUOTA.
AND WE HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THAT SO WE CAN BUILD OUR COUNTY PLAN AROUND THERE.
MY IMPRESSION IS, IS, AND I'VE ATTENDED SEVERAL MEETINGS WITH THAT, UH, BUT MY IMPRESSION IS, IS THAT THAT'S KIND OF A FAST TRACK.
SO, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE, THEY'RE MOVING ALONG IN ONE ON ONE TRACK.
WE'RE GONNA BE KIND OF NOT BEHIND, BUT WE'RE GONNA BE THINKING ABOUT THE BIG PICTURE.
BUT MOST IMPORTANTLY, WE'RE GONNA, WE'RE GONNA SEE HOW WE CAN MAKE SURE OUR FACILITIES TIE INTO THEIR, INTO THOSE IMPROVEMENTS.
AND HOPEFULLY THEIR PLANNING IS, IS HOYLE WHERE THERE'S NO, UM, BUS BY WAY OF, YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE OUR ASSUMPTIONS FOR GROWTH IN 20 YEARS.
YOU KNOW, HOPEFULLY THEY'RE THINKING ABOUT THAT BIG THINK AND JUDGE, I THINK IT'LL, THIS WILL ALLOW YOU TO, FOR IT TO WORK BOTH WAYS.
BUT WHAT COMES OUT OF THAT BEING INCORPORATED IN THIS PLAN AND VICE VERSA, ITEMS THAT COME OUTTA YOUR COUNTY PLAN TO SAY, HEY, WE HAVE NEEDS ON THE I 20 CORRIDOR, YOU CAN PRESENT TO THAT COMMITTEE TO MAKE SURE HAVE A GOOD WEEKEND.
SO I THINK IT'S BOTH WORKS BOTH WAYS.
SO IT SHOULD, SHOULD COMPROMISE.
AND THE 34 CORRIDOR NORTH SOUTH, ALL THAT WOULD BE INCORPORATED INTO.
AND THAT BRINGS UP ANOTHER QUESTION.
THAT'S SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, WITH THE
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PANAMA CANAL BEING WHEN IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE FINISHED, BUT I KNOW THE SHIPPING IS SUPPOSED TO DOUBLE OR TRIPLE RIGHT, CUT IT DOWN.UH, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IN THIS COUNTY FOR SOME MANY YEARS IS IMPROVING 34 FROM OUR COUNTY LINE TO THE, UH, UH, WELL NORTH OF TARRELL 34 IS NEEDS SOME MAINTENANCE WORK, BUT IT'S PROBABLY THE BEST PORTION OF 34.
AND SO WILL THIS STUDY TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATE, I MAY BE YOU, YOU, YOU'RE, BUT YOU'RE ALL OVER IT.
AND THAT'S UNDER OUR DATA COLLECTION ITEM OR TASK 2.1 B, UH, SUB SUB TASK, UH, BI 20 I 24 OR THE US 80 QUARTER.
THAT'S THE, THE STUDY FROM DALLAS TO RIGHT.
HOFFMAN COUNTY LINE S SH 34 CONCEPTUAL ALTERNA TERMS THAT COMES OUT OF THAT PROCESS.
WE HAVE TO UNDERSTAND ALL THOSE OTHER PROJECTS AND PLANNING INITIATIVES THAT ARE GOING ON THAT AFFECT KAUFFMAN COUNTY AS WE DEVELOP THIS PLAN.
WELL, I, UH, SO AND I THINK WE HAVE THE MONEY SET ASIDE FOR YEAH, THERE'S, THERE IS A LINE, IF YOU LOOK IN THE, ON THE BOND PROGRAM HERE, THERE WAS ALSO A STATE HIGHWAY 34, UM, ADVANCED CLAIM, 1.5 MILLION IDENTIFIED TO KIND OF INITIATE THAT PROJECT.
UM, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S SCHEDULED A LITTLE LATER ON, JUST SLIGHTLY BEHIND, YOU KNOW, WE KINDA THINK WE GOTTA GET THE COUNTY PLAN GOING.
YOU KNOW, CONFIRM THAT THAT IS A NEEDED PROJECT THROUGH THE PROCESS.
YOU'VE GOT MONEY IDENTIFIED TO START THAT PLANNING OF THAT AS WELL.
WE JUST ANECDOTAL, I DRIVE BACK AND FORTH EVERY DAY AND I DROVE IT THIS MORNING.
JUST SINCE THE BRIDGE, YOU KNOW, OVER THE 80 IN THE RAILROAD AND THE PART THAT'S OPENED OUT, I'VE ALREADY NOTICED AN INCREASE IN JUST REGULAR TRUCK TRAFFIC.
NOT, NOT GRAVEL TRUCKS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
AND I CANNOT, I CAN ONLY IMAGINE WHEN THE 34 BYPASS IS DONE THROUGH OR AROUND.
I WOULD IMAGINE THAT'S EVEN GONNA INCREASE IT MORE SO.
SO, WELL, I'LL TELL YOU WHAT I, I FEEL LIKE, AND, AND THE REASON I'VE BEEN KEEPING AN EYE ON 34 AND WHY WE'RE PRESENTING THE BOND AND ALL THAT, THAT WAS A MAJOR, THAT WAS A MAJOR PART OF IT.
AND THAT IS BASICALLY OUR ONLY NORTH SOUTH, NORTH, SOUTH ARTERY.
I DROVE A LOADED TRUCK, UH, DOWN 34 YEARS AND, UH, IT'S HORRIBLE.
SO, UH, I'M SURE THAT THE US 80 CORRIDOR PLAN IS A, IS A VERY NECESSARY THING BECAUSE OF, UH, GRIDLOCK AND ALL THAT STUFF.
BUT THAT 34, IT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED.
I MEAN, THAT PROJECT DOES NOT NEED TO BE PUT TOWARDS THE BACK.
IT NEEDS TO BE PUT RIGHT UP THERE TOWARDS THE FRONT.
WE NEED AT LEAST ONE MAJOR NORTH SIDE HIGHWAY.
AND IF IT DON'T HAPPEN THIS LOOP, IT'S GOING TO BE BUILT AROUND KAUFMAN AND TIE INTO THAT RIGHT THERE.
THEY'LL BE USING IT FROM COFFMAN TO TAR.
BUT AS FAR AS NORTH AND SOUTHBOUND TRACK, YOU CAN FORGET IT BECAUSE IT, IT IS OFF, I MEAN, IT RATTLED EVERY NUT BOAT IN YOUR, YOU GAINED THIS BACK THAT THAT IS A SIGNIFICANT PROJECT FOR Y'ALL TO ADDRESS SOME OF THESE NORTH SOUTH ISSUES YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.
BUT ONE OF THE TASKS THAT WE HAVE, AND I'LL TALK ABOUT THIS HERE SHORTLY, IS, IS DEVELOPMENT OF SYSTEM ALTERNATIVES.
AND SO OBVIOUSLY A PROJECT LIKE 34 WOULD BE IN ONE OF OUR SCENARIOS OR YOU KNOW, HOW MUCH DEMAND IS EXPECTED TO BE ON THIS PROJECT LONG TERM AS THE COMMUNITY OR COUNTY GROWS.
ALSO, I CAN'T HELP BUT THINK WHEN THE PANAMA THING IS ALL FINISHED MM-HMM
AND THE MASSIVE AMOUNT OF FREIGHT IS INCREASED.
I MEAN, EVERYTHING I'VE READ SAYS THAT'S GOING THAT 34 IS GONNA BE MAYBE ALL THE WAY FROM 35 INTERSTATE, 85 GOING UP TO BETWEEN AND YOU 30 ROUTE WAY INTO, THERE'S ALREADY A MASSIVE AMOUNT OF FREIGHT BEING HAULED UP, DOWN, NOT JUST ROCK TRUCKS, BUT FREIGHT BOX TRUCKS, FLATBEDS, WHATEVER.
AND ROCK TRUCKS ARE GONNA INCREASE AS WELL BECAUSE ALL THE SAND GRAVEL FOR SEAMEN COMES FROM THE TREATED RIVER AND THEY'RE DUG OUT ALL THE WAY TO ROSSVILLE, YOU KNOW, FROM THE DALLAS SIDE.
SO THE NEXT JUMP IS FROM ROSSER SOUTH AND ALL THAT MATERIAL'S GONNA BE MOVING NORTH THROUGH HERE TO ROCKWALL AND GREENVILLE AND BEYOND.
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ONE OF THE THINGS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT INTERNALLY AND TO SOME DEGREE WITH SOME OF CITY, AS YOU PROBABLY REMEMBER, THE COG AT ONE TIME, THE MPO HAD AT ONE TIME WHAT THEY CALLED THE OUTTA THE LOOP.AND IT CAME THROUGH KAMAN COUNTY.
WELL, BECAUSE OF THE FINANCIAL CONSTRAINTS THAT THAT COG IS UNDER AND THE RTCS UNDER, THEY DIDN'T HAVE THE MONEY PLAN FOR THAT.
AND SO THEY HAD TO PULL THAT OUT OF THE PLAN.
BUT ULTIMATELY, LIKE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT WITH THE INCREASE IN, IN, UH, INTERMODAL TRAFFIC AND WHATNOT DUE TO THE PANAMA CANAL AND JUST DUE TO THE GROWTH IN THE STATE OF TEXAS.
UM, WE'RE, WE ARE TALKING ABOUT, OKAY, HOW DOES ALL THAT FIT TOGETHER? AND AGAIN, 34 IN THAT OUTER LOOP HAVE TO BE PROGRAMMED AND LOOK AT.
AND SO WE'VE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT DOING THAT AS PART OF THIS STUDY.
SO WELL BEING IS, YOU KNOW, LIKE I SAY, THE 80 UH, CORRIDOR AND ALL THAT IS, IS VERY IMPORTANT TO THIS COUNTY.
BUT THERE'S ALREADY AN EAST, WEST CORRIDOR, WHICH IS I 20 GOING THAT WAY AND 80 IN PRETTY, PRETTY GOOD SHAPE, YOU KNOW, BUT WITHOUT A NORTH SOUTH, UH, QUARTER COMING UP THROUGH HERE AND THE RIGHT OF WAY'S ALREADY THERE I WAS, I WAS, UH, UH, OR I, I WAS TOLD I WAS PROBABLY, UH, HAD I PUT THIS, UH, I WAS FIGURING TO MYSELF THAT SINCE THE RIGHT OF WAY IS ALREADY THERE ON 34TH, THE UTILITIES ARE ALREADY SPREAD OUT EVERY, IT'S A HUGE RIGHT OF WAY.
I WAS THINKING, WELL, THIS'LL BE A, THIS'LL BE A DEAL WHERE THEY CAN MOVE RIGHT IN THERE.
WE CAN GET IT FUNDED, BANG IT, GET STARTED ON IT AND GET IT DONE.
YOU KNOW, I MEAN, NOTHING HAPPENS OVERNIGHT, I'M SURE.
BUT, BUT THAT'S EXACTLY WHY YOU'RE DOING THIS WITHOUT A NORTH SOUTH.
THEY ALREADY, YOU KNOW, IF THAT THING GETS TO, TO THE POINT WHERE TRUCKS CAN'T RUN UP AND DOWN IT, THESE SPRAY COMPANIES WON'T RUN IT.
THEY'LL RUN UP 45 AND AND DO THEIR BUSINESS.
AND THAT'S, THAT'S SOME OF THE THINKING THAT SAM WAS MENTIONING.
IF, IF THAT REGIONAL OUT LOOP WERE TO COME TO FRUITION OR WE AT LEAST EVALUATE THAT SCENARIO.
'CAUSE IT COULD COME THROUGH ON THE, ON THE WESTERN SIDE OF, OF, OF KAMAN COUNTY AND THEN TIE DOWN TO 34, AND THAT COULD BE A MAJOR RELIEVER FOR REGIONAL, UH, TRAFFIC IN THROUGH COFFIN COUNTY.
AND THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WHY WE HAVE ALLIANCE ON BOARD.
THEY'RE, THEY'RE PREPARING A LOT OF STATEWIDE MODELS FOR TECH STUFF.
AND SO THAT'S, THEY UNDERSTAND THAT BIG PICTURE STUFF AND THAT'S WHY WE, YEAH.
I'M COUNTY JUDGE IN ELLIS COUNTY AND A COUPLE OF THEIR TRADITIONS, BAY AREA 30 ALL THE WAY FROM, YOU KNOW, THAT WAS GOING TO BE MY NEXT STATEMENT.
IF YOU KEEP IT IN THAT 34 RIGHT OF WAY, YOU'RE KIND OF LIMITED IN A LOT OF AREAS TO DEVELOPMENT.
IF WE GET OUT OF THAT RIGHT OF WAY AND GET ON SOME FRESH GROUND WHERE COMPANIES CAN PUT INDUSTRY AND BUILD STUFF STRATEGICALLY PLACED, YOU KNOW, THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT WE NEED IS, IS IS THAT ALONG WITH THE SUPPORTING REMOTELY NETWORK TO A FACILITY MAGNITUDE.
THAT'S WHY WE HAVE CATALYSTS ON OUR TEAM TO KIND OF HELP US LOOK AND THINK THROUGH THE, FROM AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT STANDPOINT AND A DEVELOPMENT STANDPOINT AS WE'RE DOING THE TRANSPORTATION.
AND I GUESS BASICALLY WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS THE REASON WE NEED TO DEVELOP THIS PLAN
BUT I MEAN, YOU KNOW, THAT'S, YOU HAVE TO DO THE PLAN, YOU HAVE THE KNOWLEDGE AND NOT TO BE ABLE TO DO THE THING.
AND, AND AGAIN, TO GET THESE SHOVEL READY THINGS READY TO GO, YOU HAVE TO HAVE THAT.
AND AGAIN, IT GIVEN TO THE LINES ON THE MAP, I MEAN, WE COULD 34 NO.
BETWEEN COMAN, WHICH NEEDS TO BE, ARE YOU FAMILIAR WITH ORGANIZATION OVER DALLAS CALLED TEXAS 21 ISSUES? WE'VE GOT TEAM MEMBERS ON OUR STAFF PART.
I DON'T, BUT UH, THIS IS ABOUT ALL THE THINGS THAT ARE COMING OVER THERE.
SO IT'S NOT ONLY ABOUT, IT'S NOT ONLY ABOUT HOW YOU'RE GROWING 20 YEARS IN YOUR COUNTY, IT'S ABOUT WHAT'S
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GOING ON AROUND YOU AND HOW TO COORDINATE ALL THAT STUFF.WE HAD THIS ISSUE WITH, YOU KNOW, ALL THOSE PEOPLE ARE GONNA MOVE OVER HERE BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT GONNA BACK INTO, THEY FIND A PLACE THERE IS A LOT OF TO LIVE, BUT THAT IS GOING BE ONE HUGE, WHAT WAS THAT? HEARTLAND WAS WHAT, 1500, 2000 UNITS.
AND NOW THERE'S ANOTHER MAJOR DEVELOPMENT OVER THERE.
THAT WHOLE, YOUR WHOLE NORTHWEST SECTOR IS, IS GETTING READY TO EXPLODE, BUT, AND OVER TIME IT'S YOU GONNA CONTINUE ON INTO THE COUNTY.
INSTEAD OF THAT LINE BEING ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE COUNTY, WE'RE GOING TO NEED THAT RED LINE TO BE ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE COUNTY, ON THE EAST SIDE OF COFFMAN, EAST SIDE OF TER OR WE, WE LOOK AT ANOTHER SCENARIO, MAYBE AS ONE ALTERNATIVE, WE LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, YOUR 34 ENHANCEMENT, WHAT DOES THIS, THIS REGIONAL FACILITY DO? DOES IT HELP, DOES IT CHANGE THE DYNAMICS OF THE COUNTY GROWTH? AND MAYBE THROUGH OUR STEERING COMMITTEE WE IDENTIFY ANOTHER CRITICAL LINK THAT MIGHT HAVE OTHER IMPLICATIONS ON HOW YOUR COUNTY GROWTH.
WELL, EVEN TODAY, IF YOU GET UP IN THE MORNING, ANYWHERE FROM FIVE 30 TO NINE, TRAVEL 80 FROM MATERIAL TO DALLAS, IT IS BUMPER TO BUMPER.
YOU GET INTO 1 75 IS PRETTY TOO COMING WAY.
IT'S BUMPER TO BUMPER OUT DALLAS.
AND SO, I MEAN, YOU JUST GET IN THERE, THERE AND STAY IN, THAT'S WHERE KIDS, AND IT DOESN'T MATTER WHETHER YOU'RE ON 80 OR 21, THE TRAFFIC IS HERE ALREADY.
THAT'S, SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO.
WE'RE GONNA LOOK AT WHAT, WHAT KIND OF FUTURE IMPACTS ARE THERE GONNA BE AS A RESULT OF GROWTH AND REGIONAL, REGIONAL ACTIVITY TRAFFIC.
AND THEN HELP DEVELOP ULTIMATELY A CIP HIGH PRIORITY PROJECTS THAT NEED TO HAPPEN THE FIRST 10 YEARS AND PROJECTS THAT NEED TO BE AT LEAST CONSIDERED IN 10 YEARS AND 20 YEARS.
WE'LL TALK ABOUT THIS HERE IN A MINUTE.
SO WE HAVE REALLY BASICALLY A 10 STEP PROCESS AS PART OF BOTH THE TRANSPORTATION PLAN AND THE US A D CORRIDOR.
I'VE GOT SLIDES FOR EACH ONE OF THESE.
I'M GONNA KIND OF HIT HIGH LEVEL AND FEEL FREE TO, TO, TO TO, TO STOP AND ASK QUESTIONS.
BUT OUTTA THE SHOOT, TALKING THINKING BIG PICTURE OF THE COUNTYWIDE PLAN, THE, THE PROJECT MANAGEMENT COORDINATION THAT'S KIND OF REALLY INTERNALLY GEARING UP, UH, OUR TEAM, NOT ONLY OUR TEAM, BUT ALSO COORDINATION WITH THE COUNTY BOND PROGRAM MANAGEMENT TEAM BECAUSE WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE, UH, TIGHTLY, UH, CONNECTED ON WHAT WE'RE DOING SO THEY UNDERSTAND THEY CAN DISSEMINATE INFORMATION OUT TO THE COUNTY.
UH, BUT THEN IT'S ALSO ABOUT SOME OF THE OTHER THINGS, YOU KNOW, INTERNALLY, BUT IT'S, IT'S ABOUT OUR, THE, THE QA PROCESS THAT WE HAVE, UH, MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE DOING THINGS CORRECTLY SO THAT, UH, WE HAVE NCT COG ON BOARD OR NET RMA AS WE DO DEVELOP A TRAVEL FORECAST MODEL THAT THERE, THESE OTHER AGENCIES ARE PROBABLY BEING PICKED OF.
SO WE DO HAVE THIS PROJECT COORDINATION AND MANAGEMENT, AND PART OF THAT IS IN THIS INITIATION IS A KICKOFF SERIES OF KICKOFF MEETINGS.
WE TALKED ABOUT HAVING FOUR MEETINGS WHERE WE'RE REALLY AS PART OF A PUBLIC INVOLVEMENT PROGRAM.
IT'S, IT'S A RATHER ROBUST PROGRAM WE PUT TOGETHER OF MAKING SURE WE HAVE INFORMATIONAL MEETINGS THAT ARE OUT THERE, INPUT MEETINGS FOR PEOPLE TO WEIGH IN STAKEHOLDER MEETINGS WITH SPECIFIC GROUPS FOR PEOPLE TO PROVIDE INPUT.
WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT HERE NOW.
BUT WE, WE DO HAVE A, A SERIES OF KICKOFF MEETINGS AS PART OF PROJECT INITIATION IN OUR DATA COLLECTION AND COMPILATION THAT'S GETTING ALL THOSE THINGS, NOT ONLY LAND USE PLANS FROM ALL THE VARIOUS CITIES, BUT IT'S ALSO ALL THE OTHER PLANNING ACTIVITIES GOING ON.
34 I 20, MAKING SURE WE HAVE ALL THOSE PLANS.
WE UNDERSTAND WHAT'S GOING ON.
SO WE, WE CAN CONSIDER THAT AS PART OF OUR PLAN PROCESS.
WE'RE GONNA BE PUTTING ALL OF OUR DATA INTO GIS BASED APPLICATION.
SO ULTIMATELY THAT'S GONNA BE TURNED OVER TO THE COUNTY.
YOU'LL BE ABLE TO USE THAT PLANNING ACTIVITIES.
OUR PUBLIC AGENCY INVOLVEMENT PROGRAM, IT'S, UH, IT'S REALLY RATHER ROBUST WHEN WE GET TO THE NUMBER OF MEETINGS.
YOU PROBABLY, YOUR JOURNAL WILL PROBABLY DROP, BUT REALLY WE THINK THAT, UH, HAVING A STEERING COMMITTEE, UM, HELPING US, UH, UM, THROUGH THE PLAN PROCESS IS GONNA BE CRITICAL.
THIS STEERING COMMITTEE WOULD BE 6, 8, 10, MAYBE 12 PEOPLE, BUT OF THROUGHOUT YOUR COMMUNITY MEMBERS FROM THE REPRESENTATIVE CITIES ON THIS, ON THIS COMMITTEE, UH, COUNTY REPRESENTATIVES KEY LEADERSHIP, UH, POSITION.
THIS IS, THIS WOULD BE A GROUP OUTSIDE OF THE COUNTY OF COMMISSIONER'S COURT.
IN OTHER WORDS, WE SEE THIS STEERING COMMITTEE AS BEING CRITICAL THROUGHOUT OUR PROCESS.
WE HAVE PROGRAMMED, UH, EIGHT MEETINGS WITH THE STEERING COMMITTEE THROUGHOUT OUR PLAN PROCESS.
SO, UH, WE WOULD WORK WITH THEM IN NOT ONLY IDENTIFYING ISSUES, THEN HELPING US IDENTIFYING ISSUES, BUT THEN THEY HELPING US IN IDENTIFYING ALTERNATIVES, SCENARIOS THAT WE NEED TO BE THINKING ABOUT AS WE GO THROUGH OUR TRIAL FORECAST MODELING PROCESS.
THE IDEA THERE WAS MEET SPECIFICALLY WITH, UH, YOU ALL INDIVIDUALLY ON WHAT YOU ALL THINK ARE ARE KEY NEEDS, UM, GOING TO THE, THE BIG TO THE FOUR CITIES,
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NEY TERRELL, CRANDELL KAUFMAN INDIVIDUALLY, FINDING OUT WHAT THEIR NEEDS ARE.BUT THEN ALSO WE HAVE A SERIES OF A COUPLE OTHER MEETINGS THAT WE STRATEGICALLY PLACE THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY FOR THE OTHER COMMUNITIES, MAYBANK CAMPS THAT THEY CAN PROVIDE INPUT AS PART OF THIS PROCESS.
THEN WE HAVE A SERIES OF PUBLIC, UM, UH, PUBLIC BRIEFINGS.
THIS WOULD BE, UH, A BANK OF MEETINGS.
WE'VE IDENTIFIED 10 AS PART OF THIS PROGRAM THAT WE COULD USE THROUGHOUT THE PLAN PROCESS TO UPDATE ANY SPECIFIC GROUP THAT, THAT THE STEERING COMMITTEE THINKS WE NEED TO PRESENT AN UPDATE TO, WHETHER IT'S AN ISD, WHETHER IT'S A CITY COUNCIL, WHETHER IT'S WHATEVER AGENCY THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY.
WE WOULD USE THESE BAN OF MEETINGS TO GO OUT, TALK ABOUT THE PLAN, PLAN PROCESS, WHERE WE ARE.
OTHER, UH, ANY SPECIFIC ISSUES THAT MIGHT ARISE IN THE PUBLIC MEETINGS.
UH, WE HAVE THREE OR FOUR MEETINGS PROGRAMMED, AND THIS IS REALLY ULTIMATELY THE PUBLIC HEARING PROCESS THAT COMES THROUGH THE COUNTY COMMISSIONER'S COURT.
WE HAVE, WE HAVE A PUBLIC INPUT MEETING AT THE OUTSET OF THE PROJECT.
UH, WE'LL HAVE A MEETING AT DRAFT PLAN STAGE AND THEN ANOTHER MEETING AT, UH, DRAFT FINAL.
SO IN OTHER WORDS, WE'RE, WE'RE GARNERING PUBLIC INPUT THROUGH THIS PLAN PROCESS.
SO IF THERE'S ANY ISSUES OR COMMENTS, WE'RE ABLE TO ADDRESS THOSE PRIOR TO COMING BEFORE THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT AS PART OF THE FORMAL HEARING PROCESS.
UH, WE, WE ALSO HAVE NEWSLETTERS.
WE HAVE A WEBSITE THAT WE WOULD BUILD AS FAR OF THIS PROGRAM.
THE WEBSITE WOULD REALLY BUILD ON THE KAUFMAN COUNTY TRANSPORTATION COUNTY TRANSPORTATION.
THE WEBSITE WE CURRENTLY HAVE, WE TACK THIS ON THERE.
SO YOU, NOT ONLY IS THERE INFORMATION ON THE BOND PROGRAM, BUT THERE'S ALSO INFORMATION ON THE TRANSPORTATION PLAN.
SO ANY, ANY MEETING INFORMATION, ANYTHING WE HAVE WILL BE UP ON THE WEBSITE FOR, UH, TRANSPARENCY AND FOR ALL TO SEE.
UH, WE WOULD, UH, BLAST OUT NEWSLETTERS.
WE PROGRAM THREE OR FOUR QUARTERLY NEWSLETTERS, UH, ELECTRONICALLY USING SOME DATABASES THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN PUT TOGETHER.
SOME OF THE COUNTIES WOULD TRY TO PULL ALL THOSE TOGETHER SO WE'RE ABLE ELECTRONICALLY BLAST INFORMATION.
BUT THAT INFORMATION WOULD ALSO BE UP ON THE WEBSITE.
THIS WOULD BE WITH YOU ALL AS A GROUP, UH, EXECUTIVE BRIEFINGS ON WHERE WE ARE IN THE PLAN PROCESS, UM, IF THERE'S ANY SPECIFIC ISSUES THAT WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT.
BUT WE HAVE SIX OF THOSE PROGRAMS, UH, THROUGH OUR, UH, MEETING THOROUGHFARE PLANS AND GOALS.
THIS IS REALLY KIND OF THE OVERALL, UM, UH, UMBRELLA OF VISION OF WHAT THE TRANSPORTATION PLAN NEEDS TO BE.
YOU GOTTA HAVE MAJOR GOALS DRIVING THE PLAN.
UH, WHAT ARE YOU TRYING TO ACHIEVE? WE SEE KIND OF FOUR KEY AREAS, MOBILITY AND SAFETY, UH, MAINTENANCE OF EXISTING INFRASTRUCTURE, UH, FISCAL STEWARDSHIP, ECONOMIC BENEFIT.
WE KIND OF SEE FOUR MAJOR GOALS.
WE MIGHT ADD ANOTHER ONE THAT WE'RE HAVE HIGH LEVEL, THAT WE'RE BUILDING OBJECTIVES OF HOW TO ACHIEVE SAFE MOBILITY THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY.
HOW TO MAINTAIN YOUR EXISTING INFRASTRUCTURE, HOW TO BE FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE FOR, YOU KNOW, FUNDING OPPORTUNITIES, BUILDING A SERIES OF OBJECTIVES FROM THEIR SPECIFIC POLICY ACTIONS CAN BE DEVELOPED.
AND THOSE WOULD BE THE IMPETUS OF WHAT DRIVES DECISIONS ON THE COUNTY PLAN.
WE WOULD DEVELOP PERFORMANCE MEASURES.
IN OTHER WORDS, AS WE GO THROUGH OUR PLANNING, YOU KNOW, ARE WE, ARE OUR RECOMMENDATIONS, MEETING THOSE GOALS AND OBJECTIVES THAT WE'VE IDENTIFIED THROUGH THIS OVERALL, UH, THEME OF, UM, WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO AS PART OF THIS PLAN.
WE WOULD GO THROUGH, UH, AN EXISTING CONDITIONS, UH, ASSESSMENT ADDRESSING NOT ONLY ROADWAY OPERATIONS, LEVEL OF SERVICE CURRENTLY THAT'S GOING ON NOW WITHIN THE COUNTY, BUT LOOKING AT OTHER ROADWAY CHARACTERISTICS.
YOUR I HEARD BRIDGE STATISTICS CRASH, UH, STATISTICS, ALL THE INFORMATION WE NEED TO KNOW ABOUT WHAT ARE THE KEY ISSUE AREAS WITHIN THE COMMUNITY? WHAT'S GOING ON ABOUT WAY OF EXISTING IN PLANNED TRANSIT, STAR COUNTY, UH, THE, THE, THE NPO OR THE CT CO REGIONAL COMMUTER COMMUTER RAIL STUDY.
WHAT ARE THOSE KINDS OF TRANSIT INITIATIVES THAT ARE GOING ON? HOW DO, WHAT DO WE NEED TO BE THINKING ABOUT, UM, THROUGH THEIR LONG TERM OPERATIONAL PLANS? HOW CAN WE TIE IN ROADWAY NETWORK SUPPORT THAT, UM, MAP 21 TALKS A LOT ABOUT NON-MOTORIZED CONNECTIVITY.
SO THAT WOULD BE BICYCLE AND PEDESTRIAN CONNECTION.
THAT'S, WE'RE AT A MUCH HIGHER LEVEL.
BUT, UM, THE IDEA OF LINKING TOGETHER.
IF, IF THE CITIES HAVE A TRAIL NETWORK, HOW CAN ALL THOSE BE FACILITATED? NCT COG, THEY HAVE A VE O WEB, UM, PLAN, A BIKE TRAIL NETWORK, YOU KNOW, HOW CAN SOME OF THOSE THINGS BE FACILITATED AS PART OF THIS COUNTYWIDE PLAN? AND THEN ALSO LOOKING AT AIRPORT FREIGHT AND GOODS MOVEMENT, KIND OF THOSE THINGS YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT ON THE IMPLICATIONS OF THE COUNTY, SIR, TALKING, GOING BACK THIRD TO, UH, UH, TALKING ABOUT LIKE DARK MM-HMM
UH, HOW WOULD, UH, IF WE GOT ART TO COME OUT THIS WAY, HOW WOULD THAT HELP? WOULD THAT HELP US GET, UH, INFRASTRUCTURE A LOT FASTER? UH, WELL THAT, THAT IS, YOU KNOW, TRANSIT WHOLE, WELL, IT'S, IT'S A, A, A SUPPORTING MODE OF TRANSPORTATION, RIGHT? UM, BUT ULTIMATELY THERE'LL BE A DEMAND, A HEAVIER DEMAND HOFFMAN INTO THE METROPLEX AND OR MAYBE EAST TEXAS.
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THIS DALLAS TO SHREVEPORT LINE GETS IMPLEMENTED.WE NEED TO BE THINKING ABOUT IF THERE IS LONG TERM CONNECTIONS VIA THE COMMUTER RAIL OR TRANSIT EXPANDS AND STAR COUNTY TRANSIT EXPANDS, HOW DO WE MAKE SURE THE ROADWAY NETWORK, YOU KNOW, FACILITATE SOME OF THOSE KIND OF KEY CONNECTIONS OR KEY LOCATIONS FOR RAIL, UH, COMMUTER RAIL STOPS, THOSE KINDS OF THINGS.
WILL IT HELP BUILD PROJECTS, UH, IN KAUFFMAN COUNTY? UH, MAYBE NOT UNLESS IT'S TIED TOGETHER AS PART OF A BIGGER INITIATIVE, AND THAT WOULD BE MOST LIKELY A COMMUTER RAIL.
THOSE ARE THOSE KEY THINGS THAT HELP REGIONAL IMPROVEMENTS MOST LIKELY TO HAPPEN THERE IN THAT PERSPECTIVE.
UH, THIS IS REALLY THE BASIS OF WHAT WE'LL BE DEVELOPING.
A LOT OF OUR NEEDS ASSESSMENTS.
LOOKING AT A 20 YEAR PICTURE, WHAT IS KAMAN IN 2035? UH, WE MIGHT EVEN HAVE 2040.
WE'RE GONNA BUILD OFF THE, THE COG, THE NCT COG REGIONAL MODEL.
WE SEE USING NCT COG, UH, HAVING THEM, UH, AS PART OF OUR PROCESS TO DO REGIONAL RUNS.
WE TAKE THE DATA THAT THEY DO FOR REGIONAL RUNS AND WE TAILOR IT TO OUR SPECIFIC SUBAR MODEL WHERE ALLIANCE WOULD DO ALL THE DETAILED ANALYSIS AND SCENARIO BUILDING.
AND ONE OF THE KEY THINGS THAT WE, WE THINK NEEDS TO HAPPEN IS, IS THE, UM, THE DEMOGRAPHICS.
WHAT IS, HOW IS KAUFFMAN COUNTY GONNA GROW IN 20 YEARS? SO WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND HOW THE CITIES ARE GROWING.
WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND HOW THE COUNTY'S GROWING.
AND WE TALKED, ONE OF THE KEY THINGS WE LIKE TO DO IS HAVE A WORKSHOP OR A CHARETTE WHERE WE'RE HUDDLE AROUND A TABLE TALKING ABOUT, AND THESE ARE WITH OUR, WITH OUR STEERING COMMITTEE.
UM, WHERE IS GROWTH OCCURRING SO THAT WE CAN TAKE THOSE, THE GROWTH PATTERNS, WHETHER IT'S RESIDENTIAL OR NON-RESIDENTIAL, WE CAN UNDERSTAND WHERE THAT IS.
TRANSLATE THAT INTO MODEL DEMOGRAPHICS, THEN USE THAT AS PART OF OUR MODEL PROCESS.
SO WE WOULD DO THAT IN CONJUNCTION WITH NETWORK REFINEMENTS, UH, CURRENTLY THAT, THAT THE NCT CO MODEL IS A LITTLE THIN OUT HERE.
WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT'S A LITTLE MORE ROBUST FOR KAUFMAN COUNTY.
SO WE GET SOME MORE, SOME GOOD OUTPUT AS PART OF THAT, THAT PROCESS.
AND THEN, UH, ULTIMATELY WE WOULD USE THAT FOR, FOR 2035 RUNS, WHICH THEN STEMS INTO SCENARIO BUILDING.
WHAT HAPPENS IF YOU, UH, ENHANCE NOT ONLY 34, YOU CREATE ANOTHER NORTH SOUTH CONNECTION AND OR WHATEVER ELSE WE COME UP WITH, UH, THROUGH THE STEERING COMMITTEE.
UH, THAT WOULD BE DONE FOR A 10 AND A 20, UH, YEAR RUN, WHATEVER WE COME UP FROM SCENARIO BUILDING.
ULTIMATELY, WE WOULD USE THAT IN OUR SYSTEMS ALTERNATIVES, OUR ANALYSIS.
AND THEN THAT WOULD BE THE BASIS FOR MAKING RECOMMENDATIONS AS PART OF THE TRANSPORTATION PLAN.
THE TRANSPORTATION PLAN WOULD'VE FOUR, FIVE KEY ELEMENTS IN IT.
NOT ONLY THE THOROUGHFARE PLAN, WE'D ALSO LOOK AT SOME OF THIS TRANSIT COMPONENTS, BIKE P FREIGHT RAIL AND AVIATION.
FROM A THOROUGHFARE PLAN PERSPECTIVE, IT'S A FUNCTIONAL BASED PLAN.
IT HAS, UH, ACCESS MANAGEMENT STRATEGIES.
IT HAS YOUR DESIGN STANDARDS TO CONSIDER FOR, UH, WHAT DO THE, THE ROWS NEED TO BE, WHAT KIND OF RIGHT OF WAY DO WE NEED FOR VARIOUS CLASSES OF ROWS? THEN SOME OF THE OTHER CONCEPTS OF MANAGING CORRIDOR, MANAGING ACCESS TO PRESERVE CARING CAPACITIES AND KEY CORRIDORS IN THE COMMUNITY.
NOT ONLY EXISTING CORRIDORS, BUT FUTURE CORRIDORS THAT WE MIGHT IDENTIFY AS PART OF OUR PLAN PROCESS TO ACCOMMODATE GROWTH.
UM, AND THE TRANSPLANT, AGAIN, LOOKING AT WHAT, WHAT THINGS ARE GOING ON? REGIONAL COMMUTE RAIL STUDY FROM DALLAS, SHREVEPORT COG PLANNING ACT INITIATIVES, HOW DOES THAT ALL PLAY INTO POTENTIAL RAIL? IF THERE WERE TO DERAIL FROM DALLAS, SAY OUT TO TERRELL OR WHATEVER, WHAT ARE SOME OF THOSE IMPLICATIONS? WE INCLUDE THAT AS PART OF, UH, CONSIDERATIONS FOR TRANSIT ELEMENT.
UM, THE AVIATION, UH, THERE'S BEEN THE VERTICAL VERTICAL MOVEMENT STUDY THAT COG DID.
IF THERE IS LONG TERM THE NEED FOR A GA AIRPORT OUT OF KAUFMAN COUNTY, WHERE WOULD IT BE LOCATED LOOKING AT THAT STUDY.
THEN MORE IMPORTANTLY, HOW DO WE BUILD A FRAMEWORK OF TRANSPORTATION IMPROVEMENTS AROUND IT TO SUPPORT, UH, GA AIRPORT ACTIVITIES, IMPLEMENTATION STRATEGIES.
UM, NOT ONLY ONE, THE PLAN STRATEGIES ITSELF, BUT THE IDENTIFICATION OF KEY PROJECTS OR CONSIDERATIONS IN 10 TO 20 YEARS.
BUT THEN MORE IMPORTANTLY, GETTING WITH ITS AND JOHN'S GROUP ON FUNDING.
WE'VE GOT OUR STANDARD FUNDING APPROACHES, BUT WHAT OTHER INNOVATIVE MECHANISMS ARE, ARE OUT THERE TO HELP LEVERAGE FUNDS, HELP GET PROJECTS PUT ON THE GROUND.
SO WE'VE WORKED WITH JOHN AND HIS TEAM TO GET SOME OF THESE PROJECTS, CREATE A MATRIX PROJECT, WHO MIGHT BE RESPONSIBLE, WHO MIGHT BE SUPPORTING THOSE KIND OF THINGS WHERE THOSE FUNDS COULD COME.
KIND OF IMPLEMENTATION ACTION MAINTENANCE.
THEN FINALLY, UH, DOCUMENTATION PLAN DEVELOPMENT AND PRESENTATION THROUGH THE PUBLIC HEARING PROCESS.
WE HAVE NOT ONLY MAPS OF THE ULTIMATE COUNTY PLAN AND SUPPORTING DOCUMENT THAT HAS THE BASIS FOR THE PLAN.
SO WHAT TALKED ABOUT ALL THOSE MEETINGS, WE, WE'VE GOT PROGRAMMED 45 MEETINGS
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AS PART OF THE, THE COUNTY WIDE INITIATIVE.AND THIS KIND OF HIGHLIGHTS, UH, BY, BY ELEMENT YOU WHERE THOSE MEETINGS WILL BE SEPARATED.
UH, WE THINK THAT IT'S, IT'S PRETTY ROBUST, BUT I THINK FOR SOMETHING THIS BIG, YOU NEED TO HAVE, UM, WE CAN CERTAINLY, IF WE NEED TO SCALE BACK WHEN WE ADD, WE CAN CERTAINLY DO THAT.
BUT I WANTED TO POINT OUT THAT WE DO HAVE MEETINGS BROKEN OUT BY THAT PUBLIC INVOLVEMENT PROGRAM THAT'S IDENTIFIED IN SCOPE AND TASK.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT INTERNALLY WAS THAT, YOU KNOW, THIS IS REALLY THE FIRST, I MEAN, YOU'VE HAD SOME HIGH LEVEL TRANSPORTATION PLANS, UH, 2002, WHATEVER, BUT THEY WERE VERY HIGH LEVEL.
UM, THIS IS REALLY GONNA BE THE FIRST TIME THAT YOU'RE GONNA HAVE THIS, UH, TYPE OF TRANSPORTATION PLAN DEVELOPED.
AND SO WE THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE REALLY GET OUT THERE AND BE ABLE TO, IN ORDER FOR US TO GATHER THE INFORMATION AND TO COMMUNICATE AND EDUCATE WITH THE PUBLIC, WITH THE CITIES, WITH THE COMMUNITY, WE REALLY FEEL THAT, THAT IT'S NECESSARY TO, TO GET OUT THERE AND DO THIS TYPE OF MEETING SCENARIO ONCE WE GET A TRANSPORTATION PLAN.
ONCE THE COUNTY HAS A TRANSPORTATION PLAN IN THE FUTURE, AS YOU UPDATE THAT PLAN, IT MAY NOT HAVE TO BE THIS ROBUST, BUT TO START OFF WITH BEING THAT THIS IS REALLY THE FIRST TIME WE THINK THIS IS WHAT'S NEEDED.
AND IT'S NOT ONLY WITH STAKEHOLDERS IN PUBLIC, IT'S ALSO COORDINATION MEETINGS WITH NCT COG ON MODELING.
IT'S, UH, INITIAL MEETINGS THAT WE'LL HAVE TO ROLL OUT OUR PLAN PROCESS AND WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO AS PART OF THIS PLAN INITIATIVE.
WHAT TIME FOR OUR HANDLING? AH, PERFECT QUESTION.
UH, WE THINK THAT THE PLAN CAN BE DEVELOPED 12 TO 14 MONTHS, THEN THROUGH PUBLIC HEARING PROCESS, MAYBE ANOTHER TWO MONTHS.
SO WE THINK WE CAN GET THE PLAN ANYWHERE FROM 14 TO 16 MONTHS.
SO WE'VE KIND OF LAID OUT BY MAJOR WORK AREA WHERE THE, THE KEY ELEMENTS ARE.
BUT WE'RE TALKING, UH, RIGHT AT, RIGHT AT SEPTEMBER, 2015 IS WHEN WE THINK ADOPTION COULD OCCUR, COULD OCCUR A LITTLE EARLIER, UH, DEPENDING ON HOW THINGS GO.
UM, BUT THAT'S PART OF THE PUBLIC INVOLVEMENT AND STAKEHOLDER AND STEERING COMMITTEE THAT WE'RE GETTING THIS INPUT.
UM, BUT, YOU KNOW, WE GET INPUT.
LET EVERYBODY FEEL LIKE WELL, OPPORTUNITY TO PARTICIPATE.
WE, WE, WE'VE HEARD OF THE FRIENDLY RIVALRIES BETWEEN SOME OF THE COMMUNITIES AND WE WANNA MAKE SURE WE GOT EVERYONE AT THE TABLE.
YEAH, EVERYONE CAN AGREE ON WHAT ARE THE NEEDS.
THAT, THAT'S THE OTHER THING WE NEED TO WORK ON, IS GETTING OUR OWN VOTE AND CO AND, AND I'LL START THE PROCESS ON THAT.
I, I'VE KIND OF STARTED THAT ALSO.
BUT WE I WANT HELP YOU WITH IT.
WELL WE WE'RE, IT'S POLITICAL TIME.
I, I THINK SO TOO, RTC IS THAT WE SHARE A SEAT WITH ELLI COUNTY.
THEY HAVE A POPULATION OF 5,000.
AND, UH, WE'VE ALWAYS BEEN THE ALTERNATE MEMBERS AND ELVIS COUNTY'S ALWAYS, I MEAN, THEY'VE BEEN, THERE'S AN ISSUE.
I THINK, UH, THEY, THEY LISTEN TO WHAT OUR NEEDS ARE, BUT THE WAY THE COG, NOT THE COG, BUT THE WAY THE RTC MEMBERSHIP, AND Y'ALL ARE PROBABLY MORE AWARE OF THIS, IT TAKES A CHANGE IN THEIR BYLAWS.
AND IT, IT'S JUST HARD FOR US TO FULLTIME SEAT AT THE TABLE.
BUT WE, IF WE CONTINUE TO GROW, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE FEEL LIKE WE SHOULD, BUT MAYBE WE CAN RUN SOME TRAPS.
I THINK MORE MORE THAN THAT, WHAT YOU'RE DOING HERE AS A COUNTY IS, UH, GONNA PUT YOU IN A POSITION WHERE, UH, YOU HAVE A PLACE AT THE TABLE.
I, I THINK THE FACT THAT WE'VE GOT THIS SEED MONEY AND, UH, THE FACT THAT WE ARE GRO COUNTY, I THINK THAT'S GONNA BE A PART OF IT.
AND THEN THE OTHER THING, AND I DON'T, I DON'T GUESS THIS IS A BAD PLACE TO BRING THIS, WHEN I MEETING, IN FACT THIS, UH, JIMMY WAS THERE, UH, THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION OUT, WHO WAS JUST HERE EARLIER SAID AT THAT MEETING, AND YOU CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, THAT OF COURSE THERE'S 25 TECH STOCK DISTRICTS.
OURS IS IN DALLAS, YOU KNOW, WE'RE PART HOW MANY COUNTIES THEY HAVE.
AND THAT THE DALLAS DISTRICT, THEY, THE STATE GO AROUND, ASSIGNS EACH DISTRICT A PAVING SCORE, A PAVING CONDITION SCORE.
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AND THE DALLAS DISTRICT RANKED VERY, AT THE VERY BOTTOM, THEY WOULD HAVE THE WORST PAVING SCORE IN THE STATE OF TEXAS AND THE TWO COUNTIES THAT HAD THE WORST PAVING SCORE IN THE DALLAS DISTRICT, COFFMAN COUNTY, AND ROCKWELL COUNTY.THE GOOD NEWS IS THAT'S PROBABLY GONNA GET US, IT SHOULD BE WHERE THE MONEY IS.
AND I THINK THAT'S, THAT'S GONNA HAPPEN.
SO FOR SOME WAY WE CAN HAVE SAID THAT.
I MEAN, HE DIDN'T, AND AGAIN, WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE, WHAT I DESK IS DOING WITH YOU AS WELL, WILL HELP TO IDENTIFY OR HELP TDOT TO BETTER IDENTIFY WHERE WE CAN GET THE MOST MONEY FOR THE BUCK.
AND THAT WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT, UH, SPENDING THOSE DOLLARS WHERE WE'RE GONNA BE SPENDING OUR COUNTY DOLLARS.
SO AGAIN, WE GET MORE BANG FOR THE BUCK.
WELL, IT'S JUST LIKE 34 BETWEEN KAMAN AND, UH, ELLIS COUNTY LINE.
I MEAN, IT NEEDS, I MEAN, IT OUGHT GIVES A ZERO.
I NOTICED EVEN HERE IN THE CITY OF COFFEE, UH, YOU KNOW, HERE ON, UH, WASHINGTON STREET, IT'S, IT'S BEAT UP PRETTY BAD, YOU KNOW? SO ANYWAY, SO BACK TO YOUR ORIGINAL QUESTION, TECHNICAL PROCESS, 12, 14 MONTHS PUBLIC HEARING PROCESS, TWO MONTHS AFTER.
SO DEPENDING ON HOW QUICKLY YOU GET THE TECHNICAL WORK DONE, THEN PROBABLY ABOUT TWO MONTHS FOR PUBLIC HEARING ADOPTION, HOW ADOPTION THROUGH YOUR THE COMMISSION'S COURT.
UH, WHAT I'LL DO NEXT IS I'LL KIND OF GO HIGHER LEVEL ON THE, THIS IS NOW DEALING WITH THE US 80 CORRIDOR.
AGAIN, THE, THE 10 MAJOR TASKS.
I'LL KIND OF EXPLAIN WHAT SOME OF THE DIFFERENCES ARE.
UM, SO THAT, THAT WAY YOU CAN ENJOY YOUR NIGHTTIME READING ON THE SCOPE
UH, UM, SO REALLY SAME KIND OF APPROACH AS IT RELATES TO THE PROJECT COORDINATION.
MOST IMPORTANTLY, COORDINATING THROUGH THE COUNTY BOND PROGRAM MANAGEMENT TEAM, UM, DATA COLLECTION WOULD BE THE SAME KIND OF THING.
BUT HERE WE'RE, WE'RE DRILLING DOWN A LITTLE MORE.
WE'RE DRILLING DOWN INTO, 'CAUSE NOW WE'RE WITHIN THEIR USAID CORRIDOR.
WHAT ARE OUR CONSTRAINTS? AND THAT'S RIGHT OF WAY.
SO WHAT ARE WE, WHAT KIND OF NEEDS ARE WE GONNA HAVE? AND SO WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE UNDERSTAND ALL THAT.
SO WE'LL BE COORDINATING WITH TECH DOTS SO WE KNOW ALL THAT.
UM, AND THAT'LL ALL BE PART OF OUR, OUR, OUR PROCESS.
BUT THEN WE, SECONDLY A CORRIDOR TOUR.
WE'LL TAKE A STEERING COMMITTEE WITH A COURT TOUR SO WE HAVE A BETTER HANDLE ON WHAT THE KEY ISSUES ARE.
SAFETY, SO WE UNDERSTAND, UH, IN THE PUBLIC INVOLVEMENT PROGRAM, WE HAVE, UH, ALMOST AS ROBUST, UM, UM, NUMBER OF MEETINGS AS WE HAVE FROM THE COUNTY.
WE'LL GO THROUGH THOSE HERE IN A MINUTE.
BUT TWO, TWO KEY DIFFERENCES HERE ON THIS.
ONE, WE THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE, WE GET TDOT IN THERE.
UH, AS PART OF OUR PROCESS, NOT ONLY ARE WE COMING UP WITH CONCEPTUAL ALTERNATIVES OF WHAT THAT CORRIDOR NEEDS TO LOOK LIKE, WHETHER IT BE ADDING ANOTHER FREE LANE ON MAIN LANES, ADD FRONT ROADS, DON'T ADD FRONT ROADS, BE MANAGED LANES.
WE WANT TO COORDINATE WHATEVER WE COME OUT WITH.
WE WANT TO, WE WANNA MAKE SURE THEY'RE KIND OF IN THE LOOP WITH US.
'CAUSE WE THINK LONG TERM THAT'LL APPLY HELP IF THEY'RE KIND OF INVOLVED AS PART OF THE PROCESS, THAT MIGHT HELP LONG TERM GETTING THE APPROVAL PROCESS GOING AND GETTING PROJECTS OR, OR IMPROVEMENTS TO THE CORRIDOR IMPLEMENTED.
FINALLY, WE THINK, UM, SO WE'RE GONNA GO THROUGH A LOT OF WORK WITH LOOKING AT MARKET ASSESSMENT, LOOKING AT MOBILITY NEEDS.
ONCE WE FIGURE OUT WHAT'S THE BEST OPTION FOR YOU TO HAVE, WE THOUGHT IT MIGHT BE GOOD TO HAVE SOME KIND OF PUT A BOW ON EVERYTHING WITH AN ANIMATION OR, OR A VISUAL, UH, A VISUALIZATION VIDEO, LITTLE FLY THROUGH OF THE CORRIDOR, WHAT THIS CORRIDOR COULD LOOK LIKE BASED ON WHAT OUR 20 YEAR DEMAND IS.
SO WE, WE ADDED THAT AS PART OF THIS.
IF THAT'S SOMETHING WE WANNA TAKE OUT, WE CERTAINLY DO THAT.
BUT WE THOUGHT HAVING A PICTURE, A PRETTY PICTURE, PRETTY CLEAR PICTURE OF WHAT THIS THING NEEDS TO LOOK LIKE.
WE THOUGHT THAT THAT'D BE CRITICALLY IMPORTANT AS PART OF WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO, UH, WE'VE TRY TO ACCOMPLISH LONG TERM.
SAME THING IN TERMS OF GOALS, BUT HERE WE'RE HONING IN ON WHAT'S THE VISION OF THE US 80 CORRIDOR.
IS THAT A KEY, UH, MARKET CORRIDOR? IS IT A STRICTLY MOBILITY CORRIDOR? FIRST, ESTABLISHING WHAT THE VISION IS, SUPPORTING GOALS, OBJECTIVES, BASIS FOR LONG-TERM POLICY, UH, ACTIONS, UH, UNDER THE EVALUATION OF EXISTING, UH, THE EXISTING COURT ITSELF.
NOT ONLY CORRIDOR, UH, ISSUES, BUT THIS IS NOW ON A VERY REFINED LEVEL.
WE DO HAVE ANOTHER CONSULTING TEAM ON, UH, ON OUR PROGRAM.
DO LOT OF TRAFFIC COUNTS ALONG THE USAID CORRIDOR.
SO WE FULLY UNDERSTAND WHERE ALL THE, ALL THROUGH FROM
SO WE'RE GONNA BE LOOKING AT WHERE ALL THE KEY NODES ARE AND, AND HAVING AN UNDERSTANDING OPERATIONALLY WHAT, WHAT'S THE TRAFFIC CONDITION DURING PEAK, PEAK TIME.
THAT'S WHEN WE'LL BE DOING OUR ASSESSMENT.
SO THE GRANT WILL BE A PART OF THIS PROGRAM, BUT HERE'S WHERE WE ALSO BRING IN, UH,
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CATALYST THE, THE MARKET ASSESSMENT, LOOKING AT WHAT IS, WHAT IS THE MARKET POTENTIAL OR WHAT'S REALLY THE, THE MARKET DEMAND LONG TERM SO THAT WE CAN KIND OF PROGRAM OUT NODES OF DEVELOPMENT AND THAT'S ROADWAY SUPPORTING NETWORK.AGAIN HERE WE'RE GONNA BE JUST LOOKING AT A 20 YEAR PICTURE THAT WAS AS PART OF THE COUNTY PLAN.
BUT THEN WE'RE DRILLING DOWN AT A MICRO LEVEL ANALYSIS.
SO WE'RE BUILDING KIND OF A SEPARATE MODEL THAT REALLY LOOKS AT THE OPERATIONAL CONDITIONS WITHIN THE CORRIDOR THAT'S GONNA HELP US WITH SOME OF THE SAFETY, UH, NEEDS THAT MIGHT NEED TO HAPPEN IN THE CORRIDOR SPECIFIC INTERCHANGED, UH, IMPROVEMENTS THAT MIGHT NEED TO HAPPEN, WHETHER IT'S TEXAS U-TURNS, WHETHER IT'S WHATEVER GRADE SEPARATIONS, WHATEVER WE COME UP WITH.
UM, THAT'LL BE PART OF THIS PROCESS.
AND THEN ULTIMATELY PART OF THIS, UH, THE ALTERNATIVES, THE LEVEL OF SERVICE AND OPERATIONAL ANALYSIS.
THAT'S KIND OF THE BIGGIE IN DETERMINING NOT ONLY ARE WE LOOKING AT 20 YEARS, BUT OPERATIONALLY, WHAT DO SOME OF THESE INTERSECTIONS THAT KEY LOCATIONS NEED TO LOOK LIKE.
UM, UNDER THE PLAN RECOMMENDATIONS, HERE'S WHERE, UM, WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'VE GOTTA HONE IN ON A COUPLE THINGS.
NOT ONLY IS US A D ANY MOBILITY CORRIDOR FOR THE COUNTY, IT HAS A DIFFERENT LOOK AND FEEL AS PATCH TERRELL.
SO HERE WE'RE AT A, AN ARTERIAL SECTION.
SO IF IN 20 YEARS, OR LOOKING DOWN THE ROAD IN OUR ASSESSMENT, IF IN 20 YEARS THERE'S NO WAY TO IMPROVE USA TERRELL, THAT MEANS WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO COME UP WITH OTHER OPTIONS, OTHER RELIEVER ROUTES OR CONNECTIONS.
AND SO WE FELT THAT WE NEEDED TO BREAK OUT SOMETHING THAT'S NOT TA TYPICAL HIGHWAY SECTION 'CAUSE IT IS MORE OF AN URBAN AREA.
WHAT'S, WHAT'S THE IMPLICATION GONNA BE THERE? SO THAT'S WHY WE HAVE THAT ARTERIAL SECTION IMPROVEMENT.
THEN SUPPORTING, UH, YOU KNOW, AS I MENTIONED WITH THE MARKET ANALYSIS AND LAND PLANNING, WHAT ARE SOME OF THE ACCESS AND CIRCULATION ISSUES WE MIGHT NEED TO BE THINKING ABOUT? NOT ONLY THE MAINLAND CORRIDOR PACKAGE, ROADS, OTHER CONNECTIONS TO HELP SUPPORT THE CORRIDOR.
SO WE DID ON, ON A STATE HIGHWAY 1 9 1 IN, IN MIDLAND ESSA 14 MILE CORRIDOR.
BUT WE LOOKED AT A SUB AREA THAT WAS REALLY IN EXCESS OF A MILE ON WHAT IS THE DEVELOPMENT POTENTIAL OUT THERE.
AND MORE IMPORTANTLY, CONNECTING THE ROAD NETWORK OUT THERE IS, YEAH, SO THIS WAS 1 91 AND THEY HAD KEYNOTES OF DEVELOPMENT ALONG, UH, THE CORRIDOR.
MIDLAND, THERE'S ESA AND THEN THERE'S THIS SUPPORTING ARTERIAL NETWORK.
SO, YOU KNOW, NOT ONLY IS IT GONNA HAPPEN, QUARTER MANAGEMENT GONNA HAPPEN ALONG THE MAIN QUARTER, BUT IT'S ALL, WHAT'S WHAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN AROUND THE QUARTER TO MAKE THE WHOLE THING WORK.
THEY HAVE SOME INTERESTING CONSTRAINTS OUT THERE WITH THE WELD, BASICALLY KIND OF LIKE, UH, WEST PART OF TARRANT COUNTY AND PARKER COUNTY, WHERE THERE'S SO MANY WELL BEDS THAT YOU CAN'T GET A ROADWAY THROUGH, AND YOU CAN'T REALLY HAVE ENOUGH DEVELOPMENT WITH PROPERTY.
WELL, I WISH WE HAD THAT PROBLEM HERE.
I WISH WE WERE DODGING ALL WELLS HERE.
BUT YOU'VE GOT A FEW, YOU'VE GOT A FEW OLD WELLS.
NOW I UNDERSTAND OUT THERE, IT COSTS 2 MILLION BUCKS TO MOVE AN OIL TWO AND THEN, UH, AND THEN IT'S LIKE, UH, EIGHT, UH, 800, 800,000 OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT TO, TO DO SOME CAPPING AND USE.
SO AS WE WORKED ON, UH, THE LOOP TWO 50 MOBILITY STUDY, SOME OF OUR ALIGNMENTS, WE WERE LITERALLY, LITERALLY WEAVING THROUGH, UH,
UH, STRATEGIES, AGAIN, DEFINING KEY MOBILITY NEEDS OF 10 TO 20 YEARS.
DEFINING WHAT KIND OF FUNDING STRATEGIES OR POTENTIAL FOR IMPLEMENTING THOSE.
AND THAT'S AGAIN, WORKING WITH JOHN'S GROUP.
UH, DEFINING METAL AND TRADITIONAL MECHANISMS, BUT MAYBE SOME OTHER INNOVATIVE OVERLAYS OR THINGS LIKE THAT HELP FUND SOME THESE, UH, THEN DOCUMENTATION NOT ONLY A PLAN, A MAP, A VISUALIZATION, BUT THEN PUBLIC HEARING PROCESS.
THIS, THIS PROGRAM HERE, 37 MEETINGS.
WE WOULD HAVE A SEPARATE STEERING COMMITTEE FOR THIS GROUP.
UH, IT COULD BE SOME MEMBERS THAT ARE PART OF THE COUNTY, BUT WE SEE MORE MEMBERSHIP AS PART OF THE, THE AFFECTED CITIES ALONG THAT CORRIDOR.
WE HAVE EIGHT MEETINGS PROGRAMMED WITH THIS STEERING COMMITTEE.
UH, AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE SUPPORTING STAKEHOLDER MEETINGS AT, WITH THE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS INDIVIDUALLY, INDIVIDUAL CITIES, UH, OTHER SPECIFIED STAKEHOLDERS, INDIVIDUAL.
AND THEN WE HAVE SOME PUBLIC MEETINGS FOR INPUT, AN INITIAL, A DRAFT PLAN, FINAL PLAN, UH, 37 MEETINGS STILL PRETTY ROBUST.
UM, BUT AGAIN, SOMETHING IS THIS BIG.
WE THINK IT'S REALLY CRITICALLY IMPORTANT FOR THIS SCHEDULE.
IF WE COULD RUN THIS PROGRAM CONCURRENTLY WITH THE COUNTY, IF IT LAGS BEHIND, THAT'S WHY WE HAVE, WE COULD GET SOME SYNERGY ON MEETINGS.
MAYBE WE COULD DROP THE NUMBER OF MEETINGS, THE COUNTY, BUT IF NOT, UM, WE WOULD HAVE THOSE THREE SEVEN.
BUT WE THINK THAT THE COUNTY INITIATIVE, OR THE, I'M SORRY,
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COURT INITIATIVE CAN ALSO HAPPEN IN ABOUT 14, 12 TO 14 MONTHS.PUBLIC HEARING PROCESS, TWO MONTH PROCESS, UH, FOR, UH, CONSIDERATION OF ADOPTION.
SO WHETHER IT'S RUNNING CONCURRENT OR LAGGING BEHIND, UM, WE WOULD NEED TO DO SOME COORDINATION.
'CAUSE SOME OF THE MOBILITY SCENARIOS THAT MIGHT BE DEVELOPED BY THE STEERING COMMITTEE AS PART OF THE US 80, WE WOULD NEED TO CONSIDER THAT.
SO WE WOULD STILL, WE WOULD STILL WANNA RAMP THIS UP.
MAYBE IF WE DON'T START AT THE SAME TIME.
WE'RE GOING TO RAMP THIS UP SHORTLY AFTER WE INITIATE THE COUNTY PLAN SO WE CAN GET SOME IDEAS FROM THAT STEERING COMMITTEE ON WHAT ARE SOME OF THE NEEDS THAT WE MIGHT NEED TO CONSIDER ALTERNATIVE SCENARIOS.
A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS QUESTION.
UM, THIS AND IN, UH, THIS IS WHERE WE ARE, UH, DRAFT WISE FROM THE COSTING ALL THE COMPONENTS THAT WE'VE PUT TOGETHER.
UH, DATE SOME, THE OTHER MEMBERS, UH, THIS, THIS THING HAS BEEN BROKEN DOWN BY THE TWO PROGRAMS THAT WE HAVE, UH, DEVELOPED FOR THE COUNTYWIDE PLAN, BUT THEN ALSO THE USAID CORRIDOR.
UH, THE GOOD NEWS IS WE'RE UNDER THE BUDGET, UM, BUT WE DO IT, IT IS PRETTY ROBUST, UM, BECAUSE OF THE MODELING AND THE, AND THE PUBLIC INVOLVEMENT THAT WE HAVE.
AND YOU CAN, YOU CAN SEE HOW THE, THE COST BY TASK BREAKS OUT.
BUT ABOUT 900 K FOR THE COUNTYWIDE PLAN, UM, FOR THE 80 CORRIDOR, WE WERE ABLE TO GET SOME SYNERGY THERE, BUT STILL ABOUT 850 K, UH, FOR THAT STUDY.
SO WE CAN TALK SPECIFIC, WE HAVE QUESTIONS SPECIFICALLY ON COST AND WE CAN TALK ABOUT THAT.
BUT I WANTED YOU ALL TO SEE THIS.
SO AS YOU ALL GO THROUGH THE DRAFT SCOPE, YOU CAN KIND OF SOUND OKAY, MAN, WE NEED TO CUT, WE NEED TO ADD, WE CAN DO THOSE THINGS.
BUT, UM, WHAT CAN WE DO TO, UH, ENSURE PARTICIPATION? I MEAN, WE'RE GONNA, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO GO OUT.
YEAH, RIGHT? NOT ONLY ARE WE GONNA HAVE STAKEHOLDERS IN A STEERING COMMITTEE, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO FIND WAYS TO GO OUT AND GET PEOPLE.
THAT'S WHY AT THE, AT THE OUTSET OF THE STUDIES, BOTH OF THEM, WE NEED TO STRATEGICALLY HAVE MEETINGS, UM, THAT KIND OF HELP GET, YOU KNOW, GET THE INPUT THAT WE NEED TO GET FROM LIKE, UM, WE'RE GONNA HAVE INDIVIDUAL MEETINGS AT THE COUNTY PLAN WITH FOREIGN TERRELL KAUFMAN, CRANDALL, BUT WE NEED TO GO OUT TO MAYBANK.
AND SO MAYBE WE CAN STRATEGICALLY POSITION A MEETING WHERE WE CAN GET SOME, UM, SOME INPUT FROM BOTH.
THAT, THAT'S MY CONCERN IS IF WE GO TO THE AIRPORT TO DO ALL THIS, WHICH WE KNOW WE NEED TO DO TRANSPORTATION PLAN IS TO NOT JUST GOING HAVE TWO OR THREE PEOPLE SHOW UP.
AND I MEAN, PART OF THAT'S GONNA BE OUR RESPONSIBILITY, MAKING SURE THE STEERING COMMITTEE AS WELL AS WE, WHEN WE SIT DOWN AND WE START PUTTING THE STEERING COMMITTEE TOGETHER.
YOU, YOU WANT FOLKS THAT ARE GONNA GET OUT IN THE COMMUNITY, GET PEOPLE INVOLVED THAT ARE, YOU KNOW, HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN THE PAST THAT WANT TO BE INVOLVED TO HELP GATHER AND FOSTER THAT SUPPORT.
YEAH, WE, WE, WE'VE ALREADY BEEN KIND OF THINKING ABOUT THAT SPECIFICALLY.
WE HAVE A COUPLE OF WAYS THAT WE'VE DONE THAT.
WE'VE DONE WHAT'S CALLED PLAN IN THE BOX WHERE WE HAVE A MAP, WE HAVE A LIST OF QUESTIONS WHERE WE CAN SEND OUT IF THERE ARE, UM, ISDS OR UH, EDCS, YOU KNOW, GROUPS THAT MEET SEPARATELY WHERE WE COULD SEND THEM A LITTLE PACKAGE OF HERE'S THE, THE INITIATIVE WE'RE TRYING TO UNDERTAKE.
HERE'S A LITTLE, HERE'S A SERIES OF QUESTIONS.
YOU KNOW, WHAT DO YOU THINK ARE KEY ISSUES WITHIN X CORRIDOR OR WHATEVER COUNTY ROAD GIVE, GIVE THEM, PROVIDE THE INPUT SELF ADDRESS ON WHAT THEY CAN SEND BACK US.
SOMETHING THAT WE COULD SEND OUT TO PEOPLE, UM, FOR INPUT, HOPING THAT THEY WOULD, WELL, THE SENDING OUT IS GOOD, BUT THE FIRST CONTACT.
WE'VE ALSO DONE SOME STUFF FROM STANDPOINT OF THE YOUNGER GENERATION OR THE FAMILY PEOPLE THAT, THAT CAN'T COME BECAUSE OF SOCCER PRACTICE, BASEBALL, FOOTBALL, WHATEVER.
AND THERE ARE WAYS, YOU KNOW, THROUGH OUR, UH, THROUGH THE WEBSITE AND THROUGH OUR MEETING PROCESSES THAT WE MAY BE ABLE TO GARNER SOME OF THAT, UH, THEIR PARTICIPATION ELECTRONICALLY, POSSIBLY.
WE DO HAVE AN INPUT SURVEY TASKED OUT, UH, IN THE TRANSPORTATION PLAN, 3.7 0.1.
UH, THE IDEA WOULD BE THAT WE SURVEY MONKEY OR SOMETHING.
WE, WE HAVE A SERIES OF QUESTIONS.
WE'RE NOT INTENT IS NOT A SCIENTIFIC SURVEY, BUT REALLY GET QUESTIONS OUT SO WE GET FEEDBACK ON ISSUES.
WELL, WE HAVE PRETTY ALL AROUND THE COUNTY AND, UH, BCS AND ALL THAT LEADER COUNCIL.
WE HAVE CALL COUNTY LEADERSHIP COUNCIL.
SO WE HAVE SOME, YOU KNOW, WAYS TO GET IT OUT.
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US AND, AND ALL THAT.BUT I, I JUST THINK IT'S, YOU KNOW, CRITICAL HAVE THAT INPUT PEOPLE SOLD.
IF WE COULD GET, YOU KNOW, THROUGH SOME OF THE CHAMBERS, THEIR DATABASES OF THE EMAIL DATABASES, THEN WE COULD BLAST OUT A NOTE ABOUT THE SURVEY THAT THAT'S, THAT WAS PART OF THAT.
AND A WAY TO GET THAT DONE IS WE MIGHT INVITE THEM TO A MEETING OR, OR USE ONE OF THE BRIEFINGS.
THAT'S WHY WE HAD THOSE 10 BRIEFINGS.
WHAT ABOUT GOING BACK TO THE ORIGINAL COMMITTEE, UH, THAT WE HAD, YOU KNOW, HAVE PASSED THE, UH, SOME OF THOSE PEOPLE WERE, YOU KNOW, VERY ACTIVE, VERY INVOLVED AND WE'VE REALLY NOT TOUCHED BASE WITH THEM VERY MUCH SINCE THEN.
NO, I THINK WE NEED TO SIT DOWN AND TALK ABOUT THE ADVANTAGES BECAUSE THERE'S SOME ADVANTAGES OF KINDA REENERGIZING THAT COMMITTEE WITH RESPECT TO THE BOND PROGRAM IN GENERAL AND HAVING THEM AS PART OF THAT AND BEING A SEPARATE COMMITTEE FOR THIS.
THERE'S SOME ADVANTAGES TO BRINGING THOSE, BRINGING THAT AND MAKING IT KINDA THE SAME COMMITTEE.
I THINK ONE OF THE NEXT STEPS IS WE NEED TO SIT DOWN AND TALK ABOUT THOSE PROS AND CONS, SIZE OF IT.
THERE'S PRO, THERE'S OF COURSE PROS AND CONS TO HAVING A, A SMALLER COMMITTEE ON THIS.
YOU KNOW, THERE'S PROS AND CONS TO HAVING 20 PEOPLE ON IT.
WE WANNA SIT DOWN WITH YOU AND TALK THROUGH FROM OTHER EXPERIENCES THAT WE'VE BEEN INVOLVED IN, YOU KNOW, KINDA GET SOME DIRECTION FROM THE COURT OF HOW DO WE WANNA MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS? BECAUSE YES, THERE ARE SOME VERY, THOSE FOLKS WERE PASSIONATE ABOUT THE BOND PROGRAM WOULD BE PASSIONATE ABOUT THIS AS WELL.
UM, I I, I WOULD SEE AT LEAST SOME KIND OF MEMBERSHIP FROM THE BOND PROGRAM STEERING.
NOT ALL OF THEM MAY WANT TO SERVE, BUT, BUT IT'S ALSO GOOD THAT YOU MAYBE HAVE TWO DISTINCT GROUPS.
YOU HAVE YOUR BOND PROGRAM GROUP, YOU HAVE YOUR COUNTY TRANSPORTATION PLAN, ALTHOUGH YOU HAVE SOME MEMBERS ON THE STEERING COMMITTEE, BUT YOU STILL HAVE DISTINCT GROUPS, RIGHT.
SO WE JUST WANTED TO TAKE THIS TIME, WE KNOW A LOT OF INFORMATION.
YOU'D BE COMING UP AND YOU'D HAVE THIS 22 PAGE DOCUMENT IN YOUR, YOUR PACKET COMING UP.
AND WE JUST WANTED TO BE ABLE TO SIT DOWN AND GO THROUGH THIS WITH YOU IN SOME DETAIL.
YOU'VE GOT MY CONTACT INFORMATION.
IF YOU HAVE SOME QUESTIONS AS YOU'RE READING IT IN THE EVENING, UH, DON'T HESITATE TO CALL US AND WE CAN DISCUSS OVER THE PHONE OR MEET IN PERSON, UH, DISCUSS I TO CALL YOU EVENING WHILE YOU'RE EATING CALL.
IF WE'RE MAKING YOU DO THIS, YOU BE HAPPY TO, YOU KNOW, DISCUSS MORE QUESTIONS.
AND SO, UM, I THINK THIS IS, YOU KNOW, WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT THIS.
UM, YOU KNOW, FROM THE, OBVIOUSLY FROM THE OPPORTUNITY FOR FREEZING NICHOLS TO CONTINUE WORKING WITH THE COUNTY.
WE'VE ENJOYED THAT, BUT ALSO TO REALLY CONTINUE TO POSITION THE COUNTY, KAUFMAN COUNTY, YOU KNOW, WELL IN THE FUTURE.
AND I KIND OF, THAT'S KIND OF MY SEGUE JUDGE INTO, UM, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE SHARED WITH THIS GROUP OR YOU KNOW, THE OTHER GROUP, THE, THE NET RA MEETING THAT YOU HAD, WHAT, TWO WEEKS OR SO AGO? AND I THINK THE EXCITEMENT THAT THAT GROUP HAD FOR WHAT THE COUNTY IS DOING AND UM, YOU KNOW, THEY, THEY WEREN'T AWARE OF THAT.
AND SO, NO, AND I'LL, I'LL BRING IT AWAY.
THE TABLE WE MET, UH, ROBERT MESSER AND I AND CHAIRMAN, NOT CHAIRMAN, BUT COMMISSIONER AUSTIN, UH, FROM THE HIGHWAY HIGHWAY AND FROM THE NET RMA GROUP OUT OF TY, YOU KNOW, BUILT THE LOOP AROUND THERE.
AND, UH, MY IMPRESSION OF THAT MEETING IS, IS THAT THEY REALLY WANT TO GET INVOLVED IN A PROJECT IN COUNTY.
AND SO THEY, THE GOOD PART ABOUT THAT IS THEY, THEY NEED US AS MUCH OR MAYBE MORE THAN WE NEED THEM BECAUSE WE'RE THE LINK TO
AND SO THEY, UH, WERE EXCITED ABOUT WHAT WE, WHAT WE DID BASICALLY WITH GO OVER THE COUNTY BOND PROGRAM, WHAT WE'VE DONE.
AND UH, AND, AND UH, JOHN HOLSTER DID A VERY GOOD JOB OF EXPLAINING, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, HOW JOHN DOES THINGS.
HE DID A VERY GOOD JOB OF HAVING IT LAID OUT.
AND THERE WAS, I FELT LIKE A VERY GOOD, UH, UH, RESPONSE FROM THE, UH, FOLKS AT MAJOR PROJECT THEY'VE DONE DOWN THERE IS THE LOOP AROUND TYLER, THE
AND THEY'RE, THEY, THEY NEED TO DO OTHER PROJECTS AND UH, AND THEY, THEY WANNA BE VERY MUCH INVOLVED WITH HELPING US DOING THAT.
NOW, WHAT THAT MEANS AT THIS POINT, WE DON'T KNOW, YOU KNOW, BUT, UH, THAT'S, THAT SEEMED TO BE THE, I MEAN IT WAS VERY, VERY POSITIVE TO ME.
THEY WERE PRETTY, PRETTY OF THAT.
AND I SENSE WHAT'S GOING ON IS NONE OF THE OTHER COUNTIES ARE REALLY, THEY DON'T HAVE ANYTHING REALLY.
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I MEAN THE OTHER COUNTY, OTHER SMITH COUNTY AND UH, SO THEY WERE PLEASED TO, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE'VE GOT GOING ON, BUT MAYBE THEY CAN USE AS A MODEL FOR SOME OF THE OTHER EAST TEXAS COUNTIES THAT ARE PART OF.SO ROBERT, UH, MESSER, YOU KNOW, WE APPOINTED TO BE OUR CHAIRPERSON ON THAT COMMITTEE.
HE'S VERY, HE'S UH, AND HE'S A PERSONAL FRIEND WITH, UH, UH, MR. AUSTIN, WHO'S ALSO IN THE BANKING BUSINESS.
AND UH, THAT DIDN'T HURT BOTTOM, YOU KNOW, JUST TO HAVE PEOPLE THAT KNOW EACH OTHER FOR OTHER REASONS.
ANYWAY, THAT, THAT'S A WORK IN PROGRESS.
AND SOON IT GETS, GETS A LITTLE FURTHER ALONG.
WE'LL PROBABLY GET ROBERT COME OVER AND GIVE, REPORT, ALL THAT.
AND WE, I I SHOULD HAVE MENTIONED WHAT THE VERY FIRST SLIDE WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT WHO TO COORDINATE WITH.
JOHN POLLSTER AND I HAVE TALKED A LOT ABOUT THIS AND OF COURSE HE'S ON BOARD.
WE TEAM ORDERING FOR THE COUNTY.
UM, HE'S REVIEWED THIS BOARD IT.
SO THANK YOU GUYS FOR YOUR TIME.
ON THIS LAST SHEET THAT YOU HANDED OUT TO ME, AND I HAVEN'T BRUISED IT AT LENGTH, THAT SOMETHING THAT STICKS OUT HERE.
IT SAYS ON LINE ONE, PROJECT COORDINATION AND PUBLIC INVOLVEMENT PROGRAM, 115,000 653, 2 LINES DOWN.
IT SAYS PUBLIC INVOLVEMENT PROGRAM 180 5 0 9 8.
UH, I'M NOT USED TO TWO LAND ITEMS, RIGHT? TWO OF THE SAME LAND ITEMS BEING IN THE SAME LAND AND BEING IN MY INQUISITIVE NATURE.
YEAH, I, I, I BROKE OUT SPECIFICALLY THE COORDINATION WITH THE COUNTY BOND PROGRAM TEAM SEPARATELY.
'CAUSE WE FELT THAT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN AS PART OF PROJECT COORDINATION MORE SO THAN PUBLIC INPUT TO THE PLAN PROCESS.
SO WE, WE SEE THE COUNTY PROGRAM, THE BOND PROGRAM TEAM, WE'RE COORDINATING WITH THEM THROUGHOUT THE SOIL PROCESSING THAT'S HAPPENING THROUGHOUT OUR PLANNING, WHICH IS ON DIFFERENT TRACK FROM PUBLIC INPUT AND STATEHOLDER.
SO PUBLIC INVOLVEMENT PROGRAM THAT'S SENDING OUT, UH, MAILERS.
THAT'S YOUR INFORMATION, RIGHT? THE WEBSITE DESIGN AND ALL THAT STUFF GOES TASK THREE MEETING, Y'ALL GONNA FURNISH BARBECUE AT THE MEETINGS AND ALL THAT STUFF WE DID LAST TIME, DIDN'T WE? THAT'S THE WAY, THAT'S THE WAY TO GET EM OUT.
I'M TELLING YOU BARBECUE, YOU SAY WE'RE GONNA HAVE BARBECUE OR WE'RE GONNA HAVE A PIZZA OF COBB OR SOMETHING.
GUESS WHAT?
DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION THOUGH? YEAH.
WE FELT IT WAS IMPORTANT TO KEEP THAT ON A SEPARATE TRACK, BUT THE COORDINATION WITH THE BOND AND IT'S NOT SEPARATED.
I'M SORRY IT'S NOT SEPARATED BECAUSE YOU GOT PUBLIC INVOLVEMENT IN LINE ONE AND INVOLVEMENT IN LINE 30.
YOU KNOW WHAT, IT'S PROJECT COORDINATION AND MANAGEMENT.
THAT'S A, THAT'S A CURTIS CURTIS, BEFORE YOU LEAVE NOW, UH, YOU WERE THE ONLY CITY REPRESENTATIVE HERE TODAY.
SO DO YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS BEFORE? UH, OKAY, SO, SO THAT'S PROJECT COORDINATION MANAGEMENT IN YOUR PROGRAM.
AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO BASICALLY YOU COULD USE YOUR CONTINGENCY TO PREFUND THAT AND THEN GET REP IF YOU WANNA MOVE.
WELL, THEY ALLOW US, I MEAN THEY, AS SOON AS WE SIGN, SAID TO BE AFTER WE SIGNED THE AGREEMENT.
IF THEY HAD, IF THEY HAVE AN ISSUE WITH TIMING OF THEIR FUNDING, THEN YOU HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY WITH THIS PROJECT.
YOUR, YOUR 5% PORTION CAN BE FUNDED ON THAT.
BUT THE OTHER THING IS IF WHAT, WHAT DAN'S SAYING IS YOU GO BUILD THOSE DOWN TO WHAT, YOU KNOW, IN 2015, YOU USE THAT MONEY TO GET THOSE BILLS.
AND WHEN TEX HAS THE FUNDING TO YOUR, SO THEY'RE BEING AGREEMENT WITH T THAT'S JUST AN OPTION.
THAT'S WHAT THAT, THAT'S WHAT THAT MONEY'S IN THERE FOR IS TO GIVE YOU THAT KIND OF FLEXIBILITY.
THE OPTION YOU HAVE A SAFETY ISSUE, YOU CAN BASICALLY PREFUND IT AND THEY'LL ALSO, THAT'S WHAT I WAS GONNA MENTION THE COURT IS, UH, I HAD A PROJECT
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THAT WOULD COVER THE WHOLE COUNTY'S WHOLE PARK.I ALREADY GOT THE BEANS, I GOT THE GUYS THAT KNOW HOW TO DO IT.
WE DO IT IN ABOUT TWO WEEKS, OUR DONE.
BUT TALK TO, TO JOHN, JOHN I MENTION, DISCUSS THAT BAD.
THEY'RE RUNNING LOT BIG TRUCKS OVER YOU.
THEY RUNNING THOSE ROCK TRUCKS THROUGH THERE AND ALL THAT STUFF.
I'M GONNA GET SOMETHING FAMILIAR WITH THAT.
IT'S THAT LITTLE OLD DEAL CREEK ABOUT ALL ABOUT 15 FOOT LADDER DOWN THERE.
YOU GOTTA CRAWL UP UNDER YOUR BOOTS, UP UNDER ALL.
ANYBODY ELSE GOT ANYTHING BEFORE WE, UH, THERE HE IS.
WALK BACK HERE, HAD HIS HAND UP.
YOU GOTTA SIT UP HERE IN FRONT.
YES, ALL ANYBODY ELSE GOT ANYTHING? MOTION.