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COMMISSIONER COURT ON JULY 7TH HERE IN A REGULAR MEETING ROOM.
UH, WE'LL HAVE THE INVOCATION, UH, BY COMMISSIONER SHANE, AND, UH, THEN WE'LL HAVE THE PLEDGES TO BOTH FLAGS.
AND IF YOU'RE HERE TODAY AND YOU'D LIKE TO ADDRESS THE COURT, UH, AND OF THE OPENING PART OF THE MEETING, UH, SIR, FEEL FREE TO SIGN UP.
WE HAVE A SHEET OVER THERE, OR IF THERE'S ANY ITEM ON THE AGENDA THAT YOU WISH TO ADDRESS LATER IN THE MEETING, YOU CAN, UH, DO THAT AS WELL.
SO IF YOU WOULD, UH, PLEASE STAND.
WE JUST ALWAYS THANK YOU FOR YOUR MEETING.
WE ALSO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR OUR BLESSINGS LAST WEEK, US AND THE CELEBRATION OF OUR, OUR COUNTRY THAT WE LIVE IN.
WE JUST THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE PEOPLE THAT LAID THEIR LIVES ON THE LINE FOR US.
WE ALSO ASK YOU TODAY TO BE WITH OUR SOLDIERS THAT ARE IN HARM'S WAY, THAT YOU PUT YOUR ARM AROUND IN TO KEEP THEM SAFE, BRING THEM HOME WITH YOUR TIME.
WE ALSO ASK YOU TO LUER COUNTY, BLESS WHAT WE DO TODAY HERE, AND JUST ASK YOU TO LISTEN WITH YOUR, WITH TO US IN
I FLAG THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD IN THE MIDST WITH LIBERTY OF JUSTICE, HONOR, FLAG PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO BE TEXAS UNDER GOD.
CORRESPONDENCE TO, UH, HAND OUT THIS MORNING, UH, WE DO, OR THIS AFTERNOON, THIS ACTUALLY, UH, AND WE DO HAVE SEVERAL ITEMS ON THE PERCENT AGENDA.
THE FIRST WOULD BE THE ACCEPTANCE OF MINUTES FOR APRIL THE SEVENTH, 20 14, 2 SETS OF MINUTES FOR MAY THE 30TH, 2014 SET OF MINUTES FOR JUNE 2ND, JUNE THE THIRD, AND JUNE THE FOURTH, 2014, A TOTAL OF SIX SETS OF MINUTES FOR ACCEPTANCE.
UH, ALSO ITEM B IS TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER APPROVING PROJECT AGREEMENT FOR ROAD REPAIRS WITH THE CITY OF OAK RIDGE IN COLTON COUNTY PRECINCT.
NUMBER ONE, ITEM NUMBER C IS TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER APPROVING AN INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT FOR ROAD MAINTENANCE WITH THE CITY OF POST OAK BEND IN COUNTY PRECINCT ONE.
UH, ALSO CONSIDER ITEM D IS TO CONSIDER, UH, DISCUSS APPROVING A PROJECT AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY OF OAK, UH, BEING POST OAK BEND, OAKMAN COUNTY PRECINCT.
ITEM E IS TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER APPOINTING JIMMY ROWLAND AS A BOARD MEMBER OF THE EMERGENCY SERVICES DISTRICT.
NUMBER SIX, TO FILL THE TERM PLAYBACK.
AND ITEM F IS TO CONSIDER AND DISCUSS, UH, APPRO VISITATION OF CHRIS WALEY OR THE KAMAN COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE.
DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR ADDITIONS OR ANY COMMENTS ABOUT ANY OF THE THINGS ON THE AGENDA? WE APPROVE THE CONSENT.
COMMISSIONER MANNING, DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND COMMISSIONER LIK SECONDS.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
UH, NEXT ITEM IS, UH, ONE THAT I THOUGHT YOU MIGHT FIND OF INTEREST.
UH, AS YOU KNOW, WE'VE BEEN WORKING DILIGENTLY TO TRY AND CUT OUR ELECTRICAL CONSUMPTION OVER THE LAST, UH, TWO OR THREE YEARS.
AND, UH, WE DID, UH, DO A COMPARISON FOR YOU AND YOU'LL SEE THAT FROM, AND THESE ARE BUDGET, NOT BUDGET.
THESE ARE, AND IN 2011, THREE YEARS, YOU'LL NOTICE THAT WE USED A 5,014,000 KILOWATT HOUR.
AND OUR EXPENDITURES FOR ELECTRICITY THAT YEAR WAS 12.
UH, ABOUT 230 OR 40, MAYBE 130 OR 40, I'M SORRY.
AND THE EXPENDITURES DROPPED A COUPLE THOUSAND DOLLARS DOWN TO 4 58.
UH, CONCLUDING DECEMBER OF LAST YEAR, KILOWATT HOURS DROPPED, UH, EVEN FURTHER, UH, 4 MILLION 514 9 86 FOR TOTAL EXPENDITURE COST OF FOUR 29,000.
SO IF YOU LOOK, UH, FROM 2011,
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WE DID, WE USED KILOWATT HOURS BY ABOUT A LITTLE OVER FIVE, WHICH IS PRETTY SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT.AND THEN, UH, ALSO THE TOTAL EXPENDITURES, UH, DROPPED TO FOUR 29,000.
ONE OF THE, UH, BIG ENERGY USERS WE HAVE IN THIS COUNTY IS THE MAIN COURTHOUSE ACROSS THE STREET.
AND, YOU KNOW, WE DID SOME LIGHTING RETROFIT IN THAT BUILDING LAST YEAR.
UH, AND WE ACTUALLY COMPLETED IT ABOUT, UH, SEPTEMBER.
UH, AND SO IT PROBABLY SHOWED UP ON OUR OCTOBER, NOVEMBER, DECEMBER BILLS.
AND THAT IF YOU GO THROUGH AND LOOK AT THE CONSUMPTION, UH, AND YOU HAVE A COPY, I BELIEVE, UH, UH, SOMEWHERE OUT YOU HAVE THE DETAILS ON THAT.
THAT'S WHERE IT ACTUALLY APPEARED THAT A LOT OF OUR TOOK RETROFITTING OF THE LIGHTS AND THE OTHER CONSUMPTION THINGS WE'RE TRYING TO DO HAVE BEEN A, HAVE BEEN A, BEEN A PLUS.
AND OF COURSE, WE'VE ALSO DONE SOME THINGS IN OTHER PARTS OF THE RETROFIT.
KNOW SOME YOUR, YOUR BARN IN YOUR BARNS AND IN THAT REGARD, KAREN, I THINK YOU PUT TOGETHER THIS SPREADSHEET FOR YES.
AND, UH, YOU CAN SEE THESE, THE FACILITIES I GUESS ARE THE, UH, SUB COURT HOUSE IS NOT THE BOMB.
SO I JUST THOUGHT YOU INTERESTED AND THIS IS WHAT WE $700? YES SIR.
IT'S NOT THE SAME AS IT'S NOT GONNA BE THERE FIGURES THEY GAVE YOU CALENDAR, MINE, FISCAL, MA'AM, IT'S NOT GONNA MATCH WHAT THEY GAVE YOU BECAUSE I DID IT ON A FISCAL YEAR.
YEAH, THEY DID IT ON CALENDAR YEAR.
AND I DID IT OCTOBER THROUGH SEPTEMBER.
THIS HOUSE BILL 360 3 HAS TO BE POSTED EACH YEAR ON OUR WEBSITE, AND IT'S BASED ON THE CALENDAR YEAR.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT KAREN WAS GO THROUGH AND DO THE YEAR.
SO YOU CAN SEE THE, THE DIFFERENCES THERE.
AND, UH, 2014 IS JUST FOR THE FIRST EIGHT MONTHS.
SO IT DOES LOOK LIKE WE'RE MAKING PROGRESS.
ANY COMMENTS? I JUST THOUGHT YOU NOT WANT SEE THAT.
SEE, PROGRAM IN PLACE IF IT REALLY WORKS.
AND IT APPEARS TAXPAYER MONEY IN COUNTY STILL A WORK IN PROGRESS.
WE'VE GOT SOME OTHER, UH, THINGS WE'LL BE DOING AS FAR AS TRYING TO, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, MAKE OUR BUILDING EVEN MORE EFFICIENT.
SO ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT? JOHN, WE'RE GLAD TO HAVE YOU TODAY.
AND I THINK YOU HAVE SOMEONE THAT IS A YES THAT'S GONNA SOON BE JOINING US.
THINK SHE JUST, SHE WALKED IN WALKED.
UH, REBECCA BERG, WHO HAS JOINED OUR OFFICE TODAY.
WHAT'S HER NAME AGAIN? REBECCA LOBERG.
AND, UH, GLAD TO HAVE HER, SHE'LL BE HELPING ME AND I'M HELPING SOME OTHER FOLKS IN THE OFFICE AND, UM, I'LL INTRODUCE HER INDIVIDUAL TEACH BUILDING.
SHE'LL BE WORKING WITH JAMES
ALRIGHT, NEXT ITEM IS, UH, TEXAS ASSOCIATION OF COUNTY IS, UH, PRESENTING A, UH, INFORMATION ON OUR HEALTH INSURANCE PROGRAM.
AND LAURIE, ARE YOU HERE? YOU WANNA INTRODUCE THESE FOLKS? TELL US WHAT, UH, WE HAVE, UH, LISA AND
KAREN DOES OUR, UM, HEALTHY COUNTY AND ALL OUR TENANTS FOR ALL THAT.
LISA DOES ALL OF OUR TALK ABOUT OUR RENEWAL A LITTLE BIT AND A LITTLE BIT OF, UM, SOME INCENTIVES THAT WE CAN DO AND SOME PLANS THAT WE CAN KIND OF GET IN PLACE TO KIND OF LOWER OUR WHOLE COST AND KIND OF WE'RE YEAH.
MAKING THE TRIP UP TO AUSTIN TO BE WITH US.
I BE, YOU MIGHT BE IN MUCH THAT'S WHAT YOU, WELL, I'M LISA MCKAY, AS LORI SAID, AND I'M YOUR CONSULTANT ON YOUR BENEFITS AND WORK WITH YOU AT THIS TIME OF YEAR TO LOOK AT YOUR PLAN, LOOK AT ALTERNATE PLANS.
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UM, BUT TODAY WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT THINGS THAT ARE GOING ON.WE'VE GIVEN YOU A HANDOUT HERE, BUT I'M GOING TO, UM, IN THE ESSENCE OF TIME, GO AHEAD AND SKIP OVER TO PAGE FIVE.
AND I'M GONNA TALK ABOUT THE EXCISE TAX OR CADILLAC TAX THAT YOU KEEP HEARING ABOUT.
UM, AS WE ALL KNOW, KAUFMAN COUNTY IS CONSIDERED A LARGE EMPLOYER ANYTIME WE'RE LOOKING AT HEALTHCARE REFORM OR THE AFFORDABLE CARE ACT.
UM, SO IN 2018, IF THE COUNTY'S MEDICAL PLANS TOTAL COST EXCEEDS A CERTAIN THRESHOLD, THE COUNTY COULD BE SUBJECT TO BEING TAXED OF ANY AMOUNT OVER THAT THRESHOLD.
UM, RIGHT NOW IT'S SET AT $10,200 FOR THE EMPLOYEE ONLY PREMIUM.
THAT'S AN ANNUAL PREMIUM, WHICH ALSO EQUATES TO $850 A MONTH FOR YOUR EMPLOYEE ONLY PREMIUM.
SO THEY'RE SAYING IN 2018, 2018, ANYTHING OVER $850 A MONTH, YOU COULD BE TAXED 40% FOR THAT.
SO WE NEED TO REALLY, UM, LOOK AT YOUR PLAN DESIGN.
UM, I KNOW WE'VE MADE CHANGES LAST YEAR.
WE WENT FROM A SEVEN 50 DEDUCTIBLE TO A THOUSAND DOLLARS DEDUCTIBLE.
AND AGAIN, UM, I INCLUDED AN ALTERNATE PROPOSAL FOR YOU TO LOOK AT THAT CHANGES THE DEDUCTIBLE AGAIN, SO WE CAN KEEP INCREASING DEDUCTIBLES, MAKING THOSE CHANGES.
THE EMPLOYEES AREN'T VERY HAPPY ABOUT THOSE CHANGES.
SO WE WANT TO TALK TO YOU, HOW CAN WE, UH, WORK ON THIS WITH YOU, WITH YOUR WELLNESS PROGRAM AND, AND LOOK AT DIFFERENT WAYS, YOU KNOW, TO, UH, WORK ON THIS.
UM, ALSO ON THE CADILLAC TAX, YOU KNOW, WE WANNA TALK TO YOU ABOUT IMPROVING THE HEALTH OF YOUR PLAN PARTICIPANTS, YOUR SUPPORT OF THE WELLNESS PROGRAM, WHICH CURRENTLY I DO FEEL LIKE YOUR COURT DOES SUPPORT OUR PROGRAM, REDUCING RISK FACTORS WITH YOUR EMPLOYEES THROUGH THE WELLNESS PROGRAM AND MANAGING YOUR HIGH COST CLAIMANTS, UH, PRECONDITION MANAGEMENT WITH BLUE CROSS BLUE SHIELD, AND ALSO START MANAGING THE COST TREND ON PAGE SIX AT THE BOTTOM.
I INCLUDED A 36 MONTH CLAIMS LOSS RATIO FOR YOUR REVIEW, WHICH IS HUNDRED AND 1%.
I'M HAVING TROUBLE FINDING, OH, I'M SORRY.
I THINK THAT MIGHT BE THE WRONG HANDOUT.
SO, UM, FOR THE PAST 12 MONTHS, THE LOSS RATIO IS RIGHT AT 89.72 RATHER 90%.
UM, THE YEAR BEFORE IT RAN AT 114%.
THREE YEARS AGO IT WAS AGAIN, RIGHT AT A HUNDRED PERCENT.
SO WE HAVE SOME WORK TO DO WITH YOUR EMPLOYEES ON THE LOSS RATIO ON WORKING AND GETTING THEM ENGAGED IN THE PLAN.
UH, WE'RE HAPPY TO COME OUT AND DO EMPLOYEE MEETINGS AT OPEN ENROLLMENT AND EDUCATE THEM ABOUT DIFFERENT, YOU KNOW, PROGRAMS THAT WE HAVE AVAILABLE TO THEM, HOPEFULLY TO GET THEM ENGAGED BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT IT'S GONNA TAKE TO CHANGE THESE NUMBERS HERE.
YOU KNOW, THERE'S SOME CATASTROPHIC THINGS THAT HAPPEN WE CAN'T CHANGE, BUT SOME THINGS WE CAN MANAGE.
UM, WE'VE GOT TREMENDOUS REDUCTION IN OUR RATIO.
IS THAT ABOUT CORRECT? YOU'RE RUNNING YEAH, RIGHT AT 90%.
BUT WHAT WE LOOK AT WHENEVER WE LOOK AT YOUR RENEWAL, WE LOOK BACK OVER THE PAST THREE YEARS.
SO PREJUDICIAL MAKE YOU FORGET THOUGH.
YOU KNOW, AS MUCH, UH, UH, WITH THE WELLNESS PROGRAM FOR THE EMPLOYEES, UH, AS MANY PEOPLE HAVE, HAVE QUIT USING TOBACCO AND ALL THAT, I JUST, UH, I'M JUST REALLY SURPRISED THAT, UH, THAT THE, UH, RATES ARE GONNA GO UP ON US AGAIN BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN STRUGGLING WITH THESE RATES EVERY YEAR, EVERY YEAR, EVERY YEAR.
AND, UH, I HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION.
WHO IS, WHO IS THE, YOU SAY THEY ARE GOING TO TAX THIS, UH, PREMIUM IN 2018.
WHO IS THEY? THAT'S THE GOVERNMENT FEDERAL GOVERNOR.
58, $50 IS THE EMPLOYEE ONLY PREMIUM.
WE HAVEN'T HEARD THAT THAT'S GOING TO CHANGE.
WE ALL KNOW THAT THAT COULD CHANGE TOMORROW, BUT AT THIS TIME, THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE LOOKING AT.
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2018.IN 2018, AREN'T MOST COUNTIES IN, IN THE SAME SITUATION AS WE ARE, ARE MANY COUNTIES? YES.
WE'VE DONE A PRELIMINARY LOOK AT ALL THE COUNTIES AND 5 20 18, ABOUT 70% OF OUR COUNTIES WILL BE USING THAT, BUT SO OFTEN DEFINITELY NOT THE ONLY COUNTY, UM, UP AGAINST THAT.
AND OF COURSE, YOU KNOW, UM, WE'RE ALL HOPING THAT THAT PARTNER, THE HEALTHCARE REFORM GOES AWAY, BUT WE HAVE TO OPERATE UNDER THE ASSUMPTION THAT IT WON'T.
SO WE WANNA, SO WITH ALL THE PROGRAMS THAT WE HAVE IN PLACE FOR THE EMPLOYEES, FOR THE SAFETY PROGRAMS, FOR THE SHOP AND EMPLOYEES BROKERAGE AND ALL THAT, UH, THAT'LL HAVE TO BE MAINTAINED EVERY YEAR, BUT IT'LL BE, UH, WHAT, TWO MORE YEARS BEFORE WE ARE ABLE TO SEE A POSSIBLE DEDUCTION AND A REDUCTION IN THE, IN THE RATING INCREASE? WELL, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, OF COURSE THOSE PROGRAMS, YOU KNOW, THEY DO TAKE TIME TO SEE A RETURN ON 'EM.
I MEAN, WE'RE HOPING THAT WE CAN PREVENT SOME OF THOSE CATASTROPHIC CLAIMS THAT YOU SEE AND KEEP PEOPLE THAT ARE IN THAT HIGH HIGH COST CLAIMANT CATEGORY.
UM, YOU KNOW, WE CAN MOVE THEM INTO, YOU KNOW, A MEDIUM OR LOW RISK AND OF COURSE, FOCUS ON KEEPING THE HEALTHY PEOPLE HEALTHY SO THAT THEY AREN'T, YOU KNOW, ENDING UP IN THE HOSPITAL.
YOU KNOW, YOU HEAR ABOUT PEOPLE THAT WALK AROUND AND THEY'RE FINE AND THEN THEY END UP WITH A TRIPLE BYPASS.
SO ANYTHING WE CAN DO TO PREVENT THOSE I THINK IS OUR GOAL.
UM, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, IT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT, UM, LIKE LISA MENTIONED, THERE'S SOME, SOME CLAIMS THAT, YOU KNOW, ARE UNAVOIDABLE, BUT WE KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, 80% OF WHAT OUR COUNTIES SPEND ON HEALTHCARE, A LOT OF THAT COMES FROM HIGH COST CLAIMANTS AND CHRONIC CONDITIONS.
AND SO ANYTIME YOU CAN BRING THE LEVEL OF THOSE, UM, HIGH COST CLAIMANTS DOWN, THEN WE'RE HOPING THAT THAT'S GONNA LOOK BETTER FOR YOUR LOSS RATIO.
SO, UM, WE DO BELIEVE IN PROGRAMS WILL HAVE A LONG TERM BENEFIT FOR THE COUNTY, BUT TO SAY FOR CERTAIN WHAT THAT WILL LOOK LIKE IN 2018, OF COURSE, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN OVER THE NEXT YEAR, BUT WE, UM, WE HAVE PUT A LOT OF TIME AND RESOURCES INTO THE PROGRAM.
WE'VE RECENTLY HIRED, UM, CHIEF MORE WELLNESS CONSULTANTS SO THAT WE CAN BREAK THE STATE UP INTO TERRITORIES.
UM, MY TERRITORY IS NORTHEAST TEXAS, SO WE WANNA BE OUT IN THE COUNTIES MORE AND MORE FACE TO FACE, YOU KNOW, ASSISTING OUR WELLNESS CONTACTS.
M CASSIE, THEY DO A FANTASTIC JOB, BUT WE UNDERSTAND THEY HAVE JOBS THAT, YOU KNOW, OTHER JOBS THAT THEY HAVE, UM, TO DO EVERY DAY.
SO WE WANT BE, UM, HERE TO BETTER COUNTY AND COMMUNICATING THE PROGRAMS, UM, AND WHAT'S AVAILABLE TO THE POLICES.
I'LL MOVE THAT MICROPHONE OVER IN FRONT OF YOU.
WELL, I INCLUDED, UM, AN ALTERNATE PROPOSAL FOR YOU IN HERE.
OF COURSE, THIS IS ONE OF MANY THAT WE CAN LOOK AT.
YOU KNOW, BOARD CAN LEMME KNOW OF ANYTHING.
UM, I HAVE SHOWN A $1,500 DEDUCTIBLE AGAIN, UM, MAKING THESE PLAN CHANGES THAT DOES NOT MAKE YOU THE MOST POPULAR PERSON WITH EMPLOYEES THEY LIKE FOR THEIR HEALTH AND BENEFITS TO REMAIN STAYING.
UM, SO THAT'S JUST SOMETHING FOR US TO LOOK AT.
BUT MAINLY WE WANT TO FOCUS ON GETTING IN FRONT OF EMPLOYEES AND EDUCATING 'EM ON OUR WELLNESS PROGRAM TO MAKE THEM HEALTHY CONSUMERS.
OF COURSE, WE CAN MAKE CHANGES, PLAN DESIGN CHANGES, BUT THAT DOESN'T CHANGE HABITS THAT PEOPLE HAVE.
UM, I KNOW THE COUNTY CURRENTLY HAS SOME THINGS IN PLACE, WHICH, UM, YOU GUYS ARE KIND OF, UM, ON THE CUTTING EDGE OF THAT IF YOU, YOU KNOW, UM, I MIGHT SAY BECAUSE HOFFMAN IS ONE OF THE FIRST COUNTIES TO ASK YOUR EMPLOYEES TO DO A LITTLE BIT SOMETHING, UM, IN RETURN TO NOT HAVING, YOU KNOW, A SURCHARGE OR AN INCREASE.
GRAYSON COUNTY, AS YOU MAY HAVE HEARD RECENTLY ADOPTED A SIMILAR PROGRAM.
THEY'RE ASKING PEOPLE TO TAKE A HEALTH ASSESSMENT, DO AN ANNUAL EXAM, AND TO NOT SMOKE OR TO PAY $25 ATTACHED TO EACH OF THOSE.
AND SO A LOT OF OUR COUNTIES ARE LOOKING AT THAT.
SOME OF THE OTHER THINGS WE HAVE BEEN PROPOSING TO COUNTIES IS TO CONSIDER ASKING PEOPLE TO, UM, PARTICIPATE IN A CONDITIONER LIFESTYLE MANAGEMENT PROGRAM.
UM, BLUE CROSS HAS A LOT OF CONDITION MANAGEMENT PROGRAMS THAT THEY'VE SHOWN HAS A BENEFIT AS FAR AS COST IS CONCERNED AND GETTING THAT MEMBER TO BE BETTER MANAGING THEIR DIABETES OR THEIR ASTHMA, KEEPING THEM OUT OF THE EMERGENCY ROOM, FOR EXAMPLE.
UM, SO ANYTIME YOU CAN INCENTIVIZE USE OF THOSE PROGRAMS, UM, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE GONNA SEE, UH, HOPEFULLY A FINANCIAL BENEFIT FROM THAT.
SO THAT MAY BE SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, WE CAN TALK WITH AND CASSIE ABOUT IS, UM, LOOKING AT TAKING THAT TO THE NEXT
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STEP PERHAPS.UM, YOU KNOW, ANYTIME YOU CAN AVOID DOING A BLANKET TRANSFER COST ONTO THE EMPLOYEES, UM, THE BETTER, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN SIMPLY ASK THEM TO DO A LITTLE BIT SOMETHING IN RETURN TO REMAIN AT A ZERO CONTRIBUTION.
I THINK THAT'S PROBABLY THE WAY THEY, AND, UM, YOU KNOW, LIKE I'VE MENTIONED, UM, THE, THE THINGS THAT YOU THINK YOU HAVE IN PLACE RIGHT NOW THAT IS A REALLY GOOD START, GOOD PARTICIPATION, I THINK'S DOING A GOOD JOB OF ENCOURAGING OUR EMPLOYEES TO LOOK AT TAKING CARE OF THEMSELVES AND HOPEFULLY THIS IS A STEP IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION, RIGHT? AND HOPEFULLY THE NUMBERS ARE HEADED THAT WAY.
OH, I JUST WANTED TO ADD ONE THING THAT, UM, WE DO GET A LOT OF QUESTIONS FROM EMPLOYEES.
THEY ALWAYS ASK, WELL, CAN YOU DO THIS LEGALLY? CAN YOU MAKE US, YOU KNOW, QUIT SMOKING OR TAKE A HEALTH ASSESSMENT? AND, UM, WE STAY VERY ON TOP OF ALL THE LAWS AND ALL THE NEW HIPAA COMPLIANCE LAWS AND THERE ARE SOME NEW, UM, THINGS THAT HAVE COME OUT THAT WE JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THE COUNTY'S AWARE OF, UM, MOVING FORWARD.
AND WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT LORI AND, UM, CASTING ON TOP OF THAT IT'S, UM, FOR EXAMPLE, JUST PROVIDING AN ALTERNATIVE FOR PEOPLE.
UM, FOR EXAMPLE, IF THEY ARE SMOKING GRAY COUNTY'S OFFERING A SMOKING CESSATION CLASS AS A WAY TO AVOID THAT PENALTY.
SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I CAN REVIEW WITH, UM,
SO, UM, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN ALWAYS COME THAT WILL BE ON TOP OF THAT KIND OF THING TO ENSURE THAT THE COUNTY STAYING, UM, COMPLIANT WITH THIS.
UH, AND I KNOW YOU'RE GOING MAYBE GET INTO THIS A BIT, BUT CURRENT PLAN COUNTY, ALL OF OCTOBER OR THE END OF SEPTEMBER, IF YOU STAYED WITH THE SAME PLAN MAKING REVISION IT GO TO 7 69, WHICH IS APPROXIMATELY FIVE EMPLOYEE SOMEWHERE AROUND MM-HMM
SO THAT'S PRETTY, PRETTY HARD HIT.
AND THE ALTERNATE PLAN, AND I KNOW YOU GOT MORE THAN ONE ALTERNATE, BUT THE ALTERNATE PLAN, YOU MIGHT EXPLAIN THE DIFFERENCE THERE THOUGH, THEY'RE PRETTY WELL LAID OUT.
UM, THE DIFFERENCE IN THE ALTERNATE PLAN IS GOING TO BE THE DEDUCTIBLE.
CURRENTLY YOU'RE AT A THOUSAND DOLLARS DEDUCTIBLE AND THE ALTERNATE PLAN IS A $1,500 DEDUCTIBLE.
UM, THE GOOD THING ABOUT THE ALTERNATE PLAN IS YOUR COPAYS DUE STAY THE SAME.
DO YOU HAVE A $30 COPAY FOR YOUR PRIMARY CARE PHYSICIAN AND A $40 COPAY FOR YOUR SPECIALIST? AND YOU ALL MADE THAT CHANGE LAST YEAR, AND I THINK THAT THAT'S A, A POSITIVE CHANGE FOR EMPLOYEES.
UM, YOUR OUT OF POCKET MAXIMUM IS GOING TO INCREASE TO $5,000 ON THE ALTERNATE PLAN THAT'S CURRENTLY AT 3000.
AND WHAT THAT OUT-OF-POCKET MAX IS, THAT'S THE OUT-OF-POCKET MAX THAT YOU WOULD PAY IN A CALENDAR YEAR UNDER THIS PLAN.
ANYTHING OVER THAT WOULD BE COVERED AT A HUNDRED PERCENT.
SO WE WOULD BE INCREASING THAT.
UM, YOUR ER COPAY REMAINS AT 150, BUT YOUR DEDUCTIBLE STILL APPLIES WHENEVER YOU STEP INTO THE ER.
UM, YOUR PRESCRIPTION CHANGES ON THE, UH, BRAND AND NON-PREFERRED BRAND THAT CURRENTLY IT'S AT $10 GENERIC, 25 FOR A BRAND AND $40 FOR NON FORMULARY, THAT WOULD CHANGE TO $10.
GENERIC STAYS THE SAME, $30 FOR BRAND AND $50 FOR THE NON FORMULARY.
SO THERE ARE SMALL CHANGES IN THERE.
UM, THE OUT OF POCKET IS PROBABLY THE BIGGEST, OF COURSE YOUR OUT OF POCKET MAXIMUM, BUT IT'S LIKE DEDUCTIBLE.
NOT EVERYBODY EVER HAS ANYTHING THAT GOES TOWARD DEDUCTIBLE.
YOU HAVE A LARGE PORTION OF EMPLOYEES THAT MAY NEVER GO TO THE DOCTOR.
YOU HAVE SOME THAT NEVER MAKE MORE THAN A COPAY, SOME THAT NEVER USE PRESCRIPTION DRUGS.
IT'S THAT 20% THAT DRIVE YOUR COST, WHICH I KNOW THAT YOU ALL KNOW THAT.
COMMISSIONER, Y'ALL HAVE ANY, DO WE HAVE A, A GUIDELINE ON HOW YOU, OUR EMPLOYEES USE THE SYSTEM OR DO Y'ALL HAVE A COUNT ON THAT? YES, WE DO.
YEAH, SO WE'RE EXCITED ON, WE RECENTLY, UM,
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HAVE, WELL, WE NOW HAVE ACCESS TO A AGGREGATE REPORT FOR EACH OF OUR COUNTIES.BEFORE, BECAUSE WE WERE A POOL, BLUE CROSS WOULD GIVE US A REPORT FOR ALL THE POOL.
WELL THAT'S GREAT BECAUSE THAT HELPED COMAN.
UM, BUT NOW WE CAN ACTUALLY LOOK AT COFFMAN AND THAT REPORT HAS ALREADY BEEN, UM, REQUESTED AS OF FRIDAY.
AGAIN, IT'S BRAND NEW AND SO WE EXPECT TO ACTUALLY GET THAT THIS WEEK.
I REALLY WISH I COULD HAVE HAD IT BRIEF TODAY, BUT, UM, THEY DO ORDER THIS ON AN AD HOC BASIS AND IT TAKES A FEW DAYS TO GET THOSE IN.
BUT WHAT YOU'LL BE ABLE TO SEE IS YOU'LL SEE YOUR TOTAL MEMBER POPULATION, UM, THE, THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE AND IT'S ALL, UM, AGGREGATE.
THERE'S NO PHI, THERE'S NO SPECIFIC NAMES ON THERE, BUT YOU'LL BE ABLE TO SEE HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE UTILIZING THESE CONDITION MANAGEMENT PROGRAMS, UM, HOW MANY PEOPLE FALL INTO THESE HIGH RISK CATEGORIES FOR THE CHRONIC CONDITIONS.
UM, SO YOU CAN SEE WHAT AREAS YOU NEED TO FOCUS IN AND WORK ON.
AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GONNA BE DOING.
THAT'S GONNA BE OUR APPROACH IS TO DO A MORE, YOU KNOW, SPECIALIZED, UM, PROGRAMMING FOR ALL OF OUR COUNTIES BECAUSE THEY, WHILE SOME OF THE, THE CONDITIONS LOOK VERY SIMPLER ACROSS THE BOARD, UM, THERE MAY BE SOMETHING IN HEALTH AND COUNTY THAT, YOU KNOW, WE REALLY NEED TO FOCUS IN ON.
SO, UM, WE'RE EXCITED THAT WE'LL HAVE THAT AVAILABLE.
AND SO WE'LL THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'LL, UM, DISCUSS IN DETAIL WITH AND PARTICULARLY PUT OUT, YOU KNOW, THE EXERCISE.
Y'ALL ARE THOSE, ARE THEY, I THINK WHAT I ON VERY, IT WORKS VERY GOOD.
YEAH, WE HAVE TWO WITH THIS SUBJECT.
WE, UM, BLUE CROSS ALSO HAS A NEW PROGRAM THAT YOU MAY BE FAMILIAR WITH.
UM, IT'S CALLED BLUE VALUE ADVISOR, ADVISOR, EXCUSE MEATED, DVA.
AND IT'S A NEW SERVICE THEY'RE OFFERING, I NO CHARGE TO ALL OF THEIR MEMBERS.
SO THAT WOULD INCLUDE HOFFMAN COUNTY.
AND IT'S A, UH, WAY FOR EMPLOYEES TO START BEING MORE, UM, BETTER FORM HEALTHCARE CONSUMER.
SO FOR EXAMPLE, THEY'RE IN THE MARKET FOR AN MRI OR ANOTHER SCREEN SUCH AS A MAMMOGRAM.
THAT PERSON WILL, UM, PULL UP ALL THE DIFFERENT LOCATIONS WITHIN A CERTAIN RADIUS, UM, THAT THEY AGREE ON, YOU KNOW, 10, 15, 20 MILES, HOWEVER FAR THEY'RE WILLING TO DRIVE WITHIN THE DALLAS THAT THEY WANTED TO.
UM, THEY'RE GONNA TELL THEM THE PRICE DIFFERENCE OF EACH OF THOSE LOCATIONS AND ALSO THE RATINGS.
SO NOT ONLY WILL YOU BE ABLE TO MAKE A COST EFFECTIVE DECISION, BUT ALSO A DECISION THAT, UM, YOU CAN FEEL GOOD ABOUT THAT, THAT THAT PLACE AND THAT DOCTOR HAD GOOD REVIEWS.
UM, THEY WILL ALSO MAKE THE APPOINTMENT FOR THE PERSON THAT WILL TAKE CARE OF ANY PRE-AUTHORIZATION, PRE-CERTIFICATION, UM, COORDINATE WITH THAT DOCTOR'S OFFICE.
SO EVERYONE HAS EVERYTHING THEY NEED.
IT'S A REALLY NICE TOOL FOR EMPLOYEES TO USE BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT PEOPLE ARE BUSY, THEY DON'T ALWAYS HAVE THE TIME TO DO THAT THING, THAT KIND OF, THAT THIS KIND OF THING THAT ARE GONNA MAYBE GIVE THEM A BETTER PRICE.
SO, YOU KNOW, NOT ONLY WILL THAT LOOK BETTER FOR THE PERSON BECAUSE THEY'RE GONNA SAVE ON EITHER OUT OF COFFEE COSTS OR DEDUCTIBLE, BUT, UM, AT THE END OF THE DAY THAT'LL LOOK BETTER IF THE COUNTY CAN SAVE MONEY.
YOU KNOW, IF THEY'RE, IF THEY'RE GETTING AN MRI THAT'S, YOU KNOW, $600 AS OPPOSED TO IT'S HUNDRED DOLLARS.
AND BLUE CROSS HAS DONE SOME RESEARCH, UM, ON THEIR BOOK OF BUSINESS AND THEY'RE SEEING THAT ON AVERAGE PEOPLE THAT DO USE THIS CAN GET ABOUT A $2,000 SAVINGS ON A PROCEDURE.
SO, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE LOOKING ANYWHERE FROM THE NRI UP TO KNEE SURGERY.
SO THAT'S WHERE THAT 2000 AVERAGE COMES FROM.
BUT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE WANNA CERTAINLY PROMOTE, UM, TO EMPLOYEES AND UM, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN TALK TO THEM ABOUT.
WE COME DO SOME MEETING ENROLLMENT AND WE'VE ALSO ALSO GOT SOME NEW COMMUNICATION MATERIALS THAT I'VE ALREADY HANDED OVER TO LAURIE
SO THAT'S WHERE WE WANNA STEP IN, UM, BEING MORE FACE, FACE WITH THEM.
ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? WITH THE PROJECTED INCREASE IN COST BETWEEN NINE AND 2018, WHAT SORT OF PLANS COULD WE AFFORD IN STATE UNDER THAT, THAT UH, $800 PENALTY?
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WHAT KIND OF BENEFITS COULD WE PROVIDE AND STAY UNDER THAT? WELL, IT'S REALLY, IT'S GONNA BE SOMETHING THAT YOU JUST HAVE TO LOOK AT YEAR BY YEAR, BUT UM, I MEAN, LIKE CARRIE WAS SAYING AT OUR BUSINESS THAT WE LOOKED AT, YOU'RE NOT THE ONLY COUNTY THAT'S GONNA BE LOOKING AT THAT EXCISE TAX.YOU KNOW, IF YOU CONTINUE TO RECEIVE 8%, YOU'D END UP HAVING TO CHANGE THAT.
DO Y'ALL SEE AN 8% INCREASE EVERY YEAR, SECOND YEAR TO YEAR? I MEAN, IT REALLY IS.
UM, I, I WILL SAY THAT I CAME FROM THE PRIVATE SIDE AND THE POOL THAT T HAS IS GREAT FOR COUNTIES.
UM, I DID NOT DELIVER RATES, RENEWAL RATES UNDER 10%.
EACH COUNTY STANDS ON ITS OWN DEPENDING ON PRETTY MUCH, AND I GUESS IT'S SUCCESS OF THE POOL TOO.
WOULD THE POOL, WHAT THEY DO IS THEY SHOP OUT YOUR LARGE CLAIMS FOR YOU, WHICH IF YOU WERE WITH ANOTHER HEALTH INSURANCE CARRIER ON YOUR OWN, YOU WOULDN'T HAVE THAT BENEFIT OF THAT.
THEY WOULD BE RATING YOU INDIVIDUALLY.
AND SO WITH THE POOL, THEY'RE SHARP SHOPPING OUT THOSE LARGE CLAIMS FOR YOU.
SO THAT HELPS YOU OUT IN THE YEARS THAT YOU'RE HAVING A ROUGH YEAR WITH YOUR LARGE CLIENTS.
WE, WE'VE GONE THROUGH A SERIES, SERIES, IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, THREE REALLY BAD YEARS MM-HMM
UH, AND CULMINATED I GUESS LAST YEAR.
ONES WHERE OUR CLAIMS REALLY, I MEAN WE REALLY CAME TO OUR RESCUE, SO SPEAK MM-HMM
THAT'S WHAT, THAT'S EXACTLY RIGHT.
THAT'S WHAT YOUR PREDECESSOR KEPT TELLING YOU.
AND IT'S, IT'S USUALLY YOU HEAR THE WORDS PEAKS AND VALLEYS THAT THAT'S IT.
AND SO YOU SHOULD BE DUE NOW YOU'RE HEAR DO YOUR TIME.
WE'RE, WE'RE ANXIOUS BE I'M SURE.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR, I THINK THE, I GUESS THE OVERALL THING WE KIND OF DO HERE, BECAUSE WE'VE DONE GREAT IN REDUCING OUR COSTS IS KEEP ON DOING THAT AND TRYING TO IMPROVE ON THAT, BUT THIS 40% TAX DOESN'T SCARE ME TOO MUCH BECAUSE IF YOU, IF YOU'RE GONNA HAVE A 32% INCREASE IN OUR PREMIUMS THAT WE'VE GOT RIGHT NOW, I'VE GOT FIGURED IT MAY COST IN 2018, THAT MAY COST US A 16,000 PENALTY.
THAT'S NOT A TREMENDOUS DOLLAR AMOUNT BUDGET.
WE'VE GOT, HOWEVER AGREED OUR KEEP GOING WHERE WE'RE GOING DOWNHILL.
IS IT 800 OR EIGHT 50? EIGHT 15? AND THAT MAY NOT CHANGE, YOU KNOW, IT'S KIND OF DAY BY DAY WITH THE HEALTHCARE IS MORE COURSE, BUT MM-HMM.
I, I WANNA MAKE SURE EMPLOYEE DON'T GET THE IMPRESSION THAT WE'RE, WE'RE SLASHING THIS BECAUSE WE'RE TRYING TO SAVE THAT $16,000.
ON THE PLANS YOU'VE SHOWN US OR HOW THEY COMPARE WITH OTHER COUNTIES AS FAR AS PRETTY, IT'S PRETTY EVEN, UM, THE DEDUCTIBLES, I MEAN WE STILL HAVE SOME COUNTIES THAT ARE REALLY, REALLY RICH PLANS AND UM, YOU KNOW, WHEN I SAY THAT, I MEAN LIKE ZERO DEDUCTIBLE OR TWO 50.
THE MAJORITY OF OUR COUNTIES HAVE THE DEDUCTIBLES BETWEEN SEVEN 50 AND 1500.
WE WOULD ALL LIKE TO BE BACK ON THOSE OLD HMO PLANS AND EXCLUDED US FROM KNOWING ANYTHING ABOUT HEALTHCARE
ANY OTHER, THIS WAS JUST, UH, WE'VE GOT JUST THE PRESENTATION AND UH, UNLESS SOMEBODY ELSE HAS THE OTHER QUESTIONS, UH, WE'LL BEING.
WE'LL BE, I KNOW WE'VE GOTTA MAKE A DECISION BY UH, AUGUST 1ST.
AUGUST 1ST, AND SO WE'RE GONNA BE HAVING SOME MORE MEETINGS BETWEEN THE END OF THIS MONTH OF COURSE.
WE'LL, UH, WE'LL GET BACK PLAN.
AND JUST LET ME KNOW IF Y'ALL WANNA LOOK AT OTHER PLANS TOO AS WE GET INTO THIS.
WE JUST GOT ALL THE RENEWALS SENT OUT AS YOU KNOW, LAST WEEK.
I THINK YOU'VE GOT YOURS TODAY IN THE MAIL.
SO WE'RE READY NOW TO RUN ALTERNATES.
THE ALTERNATE PLAN YOU SENT US IT, IT'S ONE OF TWO OR THREE OTHER OPTIONS.
YEAH, IT MIGHT BE HELPFUL IF YOU COULD GO AHEAD AND JUST SEND THAT TO US SO WE CAN, SO YOU CAN LOOK AT THE PLANS.
OKAY, WELL THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
WE GIVE TO THAT DISCUSSION LATER ON.
DEBORAH, COULD YOU TELL US WHAT THAT DOLLAR WOULD BE?
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CHANGE PLANS, ALTERNATE.IT DOESN'T APPEAR TO BE THAT MUCH MONEY TO ME, BUT I, I'M NOT SURE SURE ABOUT RIGHT ON THAT.
YOU MEAN FROM WHERE WE'RE RIGHT.
IF WE WENT FROM WHAT WE USE RIGHT NOW TO THE, TO THE ALTERNATE PLAN.
IT APPEARS TO ME THAT IT MIGHT BE LIKE A SAVINGS.
WE DON'T PAY ALL THAT OUTTA GENERAL THE OTHER.
UH, DID YOU, YOU WANT COME ON UP AND DO, UH, YOUR PART ON WHAT YOU GAVE US? UH, YEAH, IF YOU WOULD, UH, IN YOUR PACKET YOU HAVE SOME INFORMATION, UH, THAT WE SENT OUT THAT LORI HAVE BEEN WORKING ON ON SOME BENEFITS, UH, UH, THAT YOU SHOULD, SHOULD HAVE YOU UH, I THINK THAT'S WHERE WE HAD YOU TO DO THIS.
UM, IN THE PACKET THAT I GAVE YOU, JUST KIND OF GIVE YOU A GENERAL, WHAT I HAVE GOING ON.
I DID INCLUDE IN THERE, UM, THE 12 MONTH REPORT THAT SHOWS ARE, UM, KIND OF WHAT THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT, ABOUT OUR CONTRIBUTIONS AND WHAT THEY'VE PAID OUT AND ALL THAT.
SO WE'RE, WE'RE SLOWLY DECREASING, BUT BECAUSE WE'VE HAD A COUPLE BAD YEARS, THAT'S WHY OUR RATE IS STILL LOW AS HIGH AS IT IS.
UM, WE HAVE IN THE LAST COUPLE YEARS THAT I'VE BEEN HERE, OUR RATE HAS DECREASED.
LAST YEAR OUR RATE INCREASED 9.8%, SO THIS YEAR IT'S 8%.
SO WE'RE HEADED IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION, BUT WE'RE NOT WHERE WE WANT TO BE YET.
UM, SO I INCLUDED THAT ROUGHLY REPORT IN THERE THAT SHOWS THE WHOLE LAST YEAR AND WHAT THEIR CONTRIBUTION, WHAT WE PAID IN WITH OUR PREMIUMS AND WHAT WAS PAID OUT.
SO WE HAD, WE HAVE HAD A COUPLE OF HIGH COST FALL OFF OF OUR INSURANCE.
I'M NOT SURE IF IT'S THEY BECAME INELIGIBLE OR THEY WERE, UM, WERE RETIREES OR THEY QUIT.
I'M NOT SURE ON EXACTLY WHO HAD FALLEN OFF, BUT, UM, IT'S A PRETTY HIGH, UM, CLAIMS HAVE DROPPED OFF OF OUR COST.
UM, THE OTHER THING WAS THE DENTAL INSURANCE.
WE, UM, I GOT WITH TAG AND THEY HAVE GIVEN US A QUOTE ON OUR, ON OUR DENTAL INSURANCE.
CURRENTLY WE ARE USING, UH, METLIFE WITH OUR DENTAL AND UM, THEIR RATES ARE GOING TO INCREASE.
RIGHT NOW THE EMPLOYEE ONLY COST IS 27 84 MONTH AND THEY HAVE NOT SENT OUT THEIR NEW RATES, BUT THEY ARE GOING TO INCREASE, I JUST DUNNO WHAT THEY ARE GONNA BE, THE PLAN WON'T CHANGE, BUT THE PREMIUM WILL CHANGE.
AND THE TI ASKED THEM TO GIVE US A QUOTE FOR WHAT THEIR DIGITAL PLAN WOULD COST AND THE COVERAGE AND, UM, THEIR DID THEIR PLAN IS A CHEAPER MONTHLY COST THAN WHAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE AND IT'S A RICHER PLAN.
THEY, UH, PAY OUT A LITTLE MORE.
UM, THE COVERAGE IS ABOUT THE SAME, BUT THEY PAY OUT MORE ON THE MAXIMUM BENEFIT AND ON ORTHODONTIC STUFF.
AND THE PROVIDERS IN OUR AREA, THEY HAVE MORE PROVIDERS THAT ACCEPT THIS INSURANCE IN OUR AREA.
SO IT'S A RICH PLAN MORE, UM, COVERED DOCTORS ARE ON THAT PLAN.
PART SOME OF THE COMPLAINTS ON THE ONE WE HAVE NOW IS, UH, HARDLY ANYBODY IN OUR AREA THAT PREFERRED PROVIDE.
AND A LOT OF DENTISTS WILL ACCEPT IT AS A DISCOUNT.
BUT THEY WON'T ACCEPT THE, UM, THE FULL COVERAGE.
SO YOU'RE STILL PAYING OUT OF POCKET.
A LOT OF 'EM WILL DO LIKE THE CLEANINGS THAT DON'T COST, BUT ANY WORK YOU'RE JUST GETTING AT, AT A DISCOUNT, NOT WITH INSURANCE COVERS.
AND WE ALSO HAD A BIG THING LAST YEAR WHERE WHEN IPS CAME IN AND SET THIS UP FOR US TWO YEARS AGO, THEY SET IT UP AS NO OPEN ENROLLMENT.
SO ANY EMPLOYEE, ANY NEW EMPLOYEE THAT WE HAD OFFERED OR ANY CHANGES THAT WERE MADE IN THE OPEN ENROLLMENT, OUR OPEN ENROLLMENT, THEY HAD WAITING PERIODS THAT THEY HAD TO, UM, WAIT LIKE SOMETIMES FOR SIX MONTHS ON MAJOR DENTAL WORK.
IT WAS TWO YEARS AHEAD, TWO YEAR WAITING PERIOD.
SO THEY'D BE PLAN PAYING FOR A DENTAL PLAN THAT THEY COULDN'T EVEN USE.
SO WE HAVE, UM, WE'VE CHANGED THAT AND NOW WE'VE SET UP AN OPEN ENROLLMENT PERIOD IF WE DECIDED TO KEEP ON THAT HAS CHANGED.
THE LAST PART OF YOUR HANDOUT HAVE THIS MM-HMM
THAT FIRST ONE IS OUR CURRENT PLAN BREAKDOWN.
AND THEN THE LAST PART ATTACHED TO IT IS, UM, THE NEW PLAN WITH, UM, BACK AND IT'S WITH BLUE CROSS BLUE SHIELD.
IT KIND HAS A BREAKDOWN OF WHAT'S COVERED AND ALL THAT A PLAN HONOR.
AND SO WE'VE GOT A GOOD, UM, THERE IS PROBABLY OVER HALF, NOT 75 MAYBE OF
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EMPLOYEES THAT HAVE DIGITAL OH GOOD.AND OUR VISION AND OUR LIFE INSURANCE PLAN, WE, UM, WILL STAY THE SAME.
WE, OUR RATES WILL STAY THE SAME AND OUR PLAN WILL STAY THE SAME.
WE HAVE A CONTRACT WITH THEM AND IT EXPIRES NEXT YEAR.
SO THE ONLY THING THAT WE COULD CHANGE IS OUR DENTAL IF WE WANTED TO DO THAT.
THE OTHER PACKET THAT I HAD WAS, UM, EVERYTHING THAT TACK HAD SENT US ON RENEWING FOR OUR HEALTH INSURANCE, UH, KIND OF THE BREAKDOWN OF THE PLANS, OUR RENEWAL STUFF AND SOME QUESTIONS THAT, UM, FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS.
THAT'S JUST A BIG INFORMATION PACKET ON OUR HEALTH PLANS QUESTIONS.
WE KNOW FOR SURE THAT THE PLAN IS ALREADY GONNA BE THEY'RE YES.
BECAUSE METLIFE'S CURRENT RATES THAT WE'RE CURRENTLY PAYING IS ALREADY MORE EXPENSIVE THAN WHAT TAX PROPOSING FOR OCTOBER.
SO, AND METLIFE'S RATES WILL INCREASE AND HAVE NOT SENT THEM.
I CALLED THE OTHER DAY AND THEY SAID THEY'VE BEEN SENT OUT, WE JUST HAVEN'T RECEIVED IT YET, BUT THE RATES ARE GOING TO INCREASE.
AND IT, AND THE PROVIDER THING WAS A, A GOOD THING TOO.
I I, I CHECKED LIKE A 50 MILE RADIUS RADIUS OF KAUFMAN AND THERE WERE LIKE 300 PROVIDERS THAT TOOK THE BLUE CROSS BLUESHIELD.
THE INSURANCE, WE CURRENTLY HAVE LINCOLN FINANCIAL, UM, WE CAN STAY WITHIN, UM, OUR CONTRACT IS UP WITHIN NEXT YEAR, SO WE'LL HAVE TO RENEW NEXT YEAR AND THEN OUR RATES WILL INCREASE.
UM, WE OFFER, RIGHT NOW WE'RE USING COLONIAL FOR SUPPLEMENTAL BLACK MEN DISABILITY INSURANCE BECAUSE THAT, THOSE RATES DO NOT, UM, THE COUNTY DOESN'T PAY FOR ANY OF THAT.
UM, THAT'S, UM, A BENEFIT JUST FOR THE EMPLOYEE THAT THEY PAY AT A HUNDRED PERCENT AND THEN WHEN THEY LEAVE, UH, COUNTY, COUNTY EMPLOYMENT, THEN THEY GET TO TAKE THAT WITH THEM.
UM, I'VE BEEN, WE HAVE HAD COLONIAL FOR MANY YEARS NOW.
UM, WE, A COUPLE YEARS AGO WE CANCELED AFLAC.
WE WERE OFFERING COLONIAL AND AFLAC, WE CANCELED AFLAC.
WE HAVE NOT, UM, USED THEM FOR TWO YEARS NOW AND WE ONLY HAVE ABOUT 10 EMPLOYEES THAT STILL CARRY INSURANCE WITH AFLAC.
UM, I GET APPROACHED ON A DAILY BASIS FROM OTHER LIFE INSURANCE COMPANIES, DISABILITY COMPANIES THAT WANT US TO OFFER THEIR PLAN.
IT'S MAINLY JUST A DECISION OF US IF WE WANT TO OFFER ADDITIONAL PLANS OR STICK WITH COLONIAL, UM, KIND OF WHAT THE RATES ARE ALL, THEY'RE ALL COMPARABLE AND THERE'S NOT ONE THAT'S REALLY NECESSARILY CHEAPER THAN THE OTHER, BUT THEY MIGHT OFFER A LOWER DISABILITY, BUT THERE ARE LIFE INSURANCES MORE.
AND SO IT'S JUST KIND OF A DECISION THAT WE HAVE TO MAKE IF WE WANNA OFFER THAT TO THE EMPLOYEE.
COLONIAL REQUIRES A, UH, A HEALTH, UH, EVALUATION ON THAT PHYSICAL NO, THEY DON'T.
YOU HAVE, UH, QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE TO ANSWER AND I THINK THERE'S LIKE TWO, UM, QUESTIONS THAT CAN DISQUALIFY YOU FOR PARTICULAR THINGS.
LIKE I KNOW FOR INSTANCE ONE, UM, WE HAD AN EMPLOYEE THAT IF YOU HAVE LIKE HIGH CHOLESTEROL AND HIGH BLOOD PRESSURE, IT CAN DISQUALIFY YOU FOR THEIR, UM, CRITICAL ILLNESS PLAN.
SO A LOT OF THEM, UH, THEY WON'T DISQUALIFY IF YOU SMOKER OR USE TOBACCO, THEY JUST USE PAY A HIGHER PREMIUM.
A COUPLE OF THE PLANS THAT HAVE APPROACHED ME HAVE A GUARANTEED, UM, ANYBODY, ANY PLAN NO MATTER WHAT.
SO THAT'S SOMETHING, AND I, I MEAN I'LL BE HAPPY TO BREAK DOWN THE DIFFERENT PLANS, BUT THERE'S QUITE A FEW THAT COME TO ME ON A DAILY BASIS.
YEAH, THAT MIGHT BE HELPFUL BECAUSE I, I KNOW THERE ARE SOME PEOPLE THAT ARE UNINSURABLE BECAUSE OF PREEXISTING CONDITIONS AS FAR AS LIFE INSURANCE IS CONCERNED.
AND IT MIGHT BE HELPFUL JUST TO SEE IF THERE'S COMPANIES OUT THERE THAT INJURED PEOPLE WITHOUT ANY TYPE OF HEALTH INSURANCE.
SO I NOT HAVE INSURANCE, LIFE INSURANCE, ESPECIALLY PEOPLE THAT HAVE HEALTH ISSUES THAT MAY NOT HAVE ANY OTHER WAY OF HAVING UH, INSURANCE.
AND UH, NOW LINCOLN FINANCIAL, THE COMPANY THAT WE HAVE THAT THE COUNTY PAYS FOR, UM, THEY OFFER A SUPPLEMENTAL THAT THEY DO GUARANTEE, UM, A FIVE TIMES YOUR ANNUAL SALARY UP TO 200,000.
UM, THAT THEY OFFER THAT GUARANTEED.
NO, THAT THEY HAVE TO, UM, ENROLL IN THE PLAN WHEN IT'S OFFERED.
SO ON A NEW EMPLOYEE THEY HAVE TO ENROLL THAT THEY CAN'T WAIT.
SO OPEN ENROLLMENT AND THEN, BUT THEY DO GUARANTEE THE 200,000.
BUT YEAH, I CAN BREAK IT DOWN TO DIFFERENT COMPANIES.
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AN UPDATE ON THE REWARD FOR WELLNESS PROGRAM.WE'RE STILL CONTINUING TO DO THAT WHERE WE REQUIRE THE EMPLOYEES TO, UM, GO FOR THEIR WELLNESS CHECKUP AND THEN IF THEY HAVE A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TIME, THEN THEY HAVE TO GET THE FORM TURNED INTO US.
WE DON'T ASK FOR RESULTS, WE DON'T ASK FOR ANY DETAILS.
ALL WE ASK IS A SIGNED FORM FROM THE DOCTOR SAYING THAT YOU'VE BEEN THERE.
AND ONCE WE RECEIVE THAT AND IF AN EMPLOYEE DOES NOT DO THAT, WE CHARGE THEM $25 TOWARDS THE PREMIUM FOR NOT TURNING IN THE FORM.
THEN UM, ONE THING WE, UM, HAVE TALKED ABOUT WITH TAC, THEY HAVE A COMPANY CALLED CATAPULT THAT LIKE RIGHT NOW, WE SEND THE EMPLOYEE, IT'S UP TO THEIR, UP TO THE EMPLOYEE TO GO TO THEIR OWN DOCTOR TO GET A PHYSICAL AND THEN BRING THE FORM BACK WITH CATAPULT.
THIS IS A COMPANY THAT WE CAN SET UP FOR THEM TO COME TO THE COUNTY.
WE SET UP A DATE, WE HAVE EMPLOYEE SCHEDULE AND THEY DO EVERYTHING HERE.
THEY DON'T HAVE TO BE GONE ALL DAY.
IT TAKES ABOUT 30 MINUTES FOR THEM TO DO THIS CHECKUP.
AND THEN WHEN THEY DO THE FULL CHECKUP OR SAME THING AND THE DOCTOR DOES, IT DOESN'T COST THEM ANYTHING.
THEY APPLY TO THEIR INSURANCE.
THEY DON'T HAVE TO DO THE COPAY OR ANYTHING.
AND THEN AFTER THAT, THAT COMPANY WILL GIVE THEM A REPORT.
THEY'LL GIVE THE EMPLOYEE A REPORT THAT SHOWS THEM KIND OF WHERE THEIR HEALTH STATUS IS, WHERE THEY STAND AND EVERYTHING.
AND THEN THEY'LL ALSO GIVE THE, UM, THE EMPLOYER A, A BREAKDOWN OF ALL THE EMPLOYEES THAT PARTICIPATED AND KIND OF THEIR HEALTH STATUS AND WHERE THAT ALL LOOKED AT.
SO IT DOESN'T COST US ANYTHING.
THE ONLY THING IT WOULD COST US IS IF UM, AN EMPLOYEE WENT TO THEIR PERSONAL DOCTOR AND WE WANNA ENTER THEIR DATA INTO THE SYSTEM TO INCLUDE THEM IN THE REPORT, THEN WE HAVE TO PAY A FEE FOR THAT.
BUT, SO THAT'S SOMETHING WE MIGHT WANNA CONSIDER IN THE FUTURE OF THEM INSTEAD OF MAKING EMPLOYEE FIND THEIR OWN DOCTOR.
BECAUSE I GET A LOT OF COMPLAINTS ABOUT, WELL WHO DO I GO TO? CAN I JUST GO TO A FAMILY DOCTOR? BECAUSE EMPLOYEES THAT DON'T GO TO DOCTORS DON'T HAVE FAMILY DOCTORS.
SO THEY JUST GO TO ANY, YOU KNOW, I JUST TELL THEM, GO TO ANY, YOU KNOW, PHYSICIAN AND THEY CAN DO THE, DO THE PHYSICAL FOR YOU.
AND SO THIS WOULD PROVIDE, THEY WOULD COME TO ONE LOCATION AND ONE PARTICULAR TIME THEY GET IT DONE.
SO THAT'S AN OPTION FOR US TO CONSIDER.
BUT OTHER THAN THAT, THE WELLNESS PROGRAM THAT'S GOING VERY WELL.
WE HAVE ANYWHERE FROM 10 TO 15 EMPLOYEES IN THE LAST COUPLE YEARS THAT HAVE NOT DONE IT AND THEN THEY'VE PAID THE 25 TOWARDS, BUT THE MAJORITY OF PARTICIPATION IS VERY, A LOT OF THAT PARTICIPATE IN IT.
THEY ALSO RECEIVED THE EIGHT HOURS LOSS.
I, I THINK WE'VE HAD SOME UH, I HEAR THE ANECDOTAL STORIES OF PEOPLE THAT THOUGHT THEY WERE OKAY AND FOUND OUT AS A RESULT OF THE, THE UH, PRO MM-HMM
AND ALSO THE BLOOD BLOOD, UH, THE BLOOD WORK THAT WE DO IN THE VACCINATION THAT THEY WERE FOUND, ILLNESS THEY DIDN'T REALIZE THEY HAD.
WE HAD LOTS OF SUCCESS STORIES.
PEOPLE NOT NEVER GONE TO THE DOCTOR, NEVER THOUGHT ABOUT GONNA THE DOCTOR, WHEN THEY REALIZE IT'S FREE, IT JUST TAKES THEM EFFORT TO GO TO THE DOCTOR.
THEN THEY GO AND THEY FOUND OUT THAT THEY WERE ACTUALLY SICK.
WELL WHEN YOU GIVE 'EM THAT DAY OFF AS AN INCENTIVE MM-HMM FOR 'EM TO GO.
BECAUSE THEY ALL WANT THAT DAY OFF.
BECAUSE THEY CAN USE THEIR SICK TIMES TO TAKE THE DAY OFF TO GO TO THE DOCTOR WHEN THEY EARN EIGHT HOURS USE FOR VACATION.
THAT PROGRAM IS, UM, ALSO AN UPDATE ON OUR TOBACCO PROGRAM.
WE IMPLEMENTED THAT LAST YEAR.
UM, WE'VE HAD VERY GOOD SUCCESS THAT I'VE HEARD LOTS OF PEOPLE THAT HAVE QUIT JUST FOR THAT REASON AND UM, A LOT OF COMPLAINTS TOO, BUT I THINK IT'S MORE POSITIVE THAN NEGATIVE.
UM, WE DID, WE, THE WAY WE PHRASED IT LAST YEAR WAS THAT EVERYBODY HAD TO TURN IN A FORM IF THEY WANTED TO WAIVE THE FEE.
SO WE IMPLEMENTED AS UM, EVERY EMPLOYEE WOULD BE CHARGED THE $25 TOWARDS YOUR PREMIUM.
THE WAY TO WAIVE THAT IS BY TURNING IN A FORM SAYING YOU ARE A NON TOBACCO USER.
SO WE HAVE HAD A COUPLE PEOPLE THAT HAVE COMPLAINED BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T READ THE FORM, THEY DIDN'T READ INSTRUCTIONS AND THEY DIDN'T TURN IN THE FORM.
SO THEY MAY HAVE NOT BEEN A TOBACCO USER, BUT THEY DIDN'T READ THE DIRECTIONS AND TURN IN THE FORM.
SO, UM, THAT WAS THE PURPOSE OF US DOING IT BECAUSE I CAN'T GO OUT AND HOLD EVERYBODY'S HAND AND EXPECT THEM TO DO IT.
SO AS SOON AS THEY TURN IN THE FORM, THEY REALIZE THAT IT'S ON THEIR CHECK.
SOMETIMES SIX MONTHS LATER THEY TURN IN THE FORM AND WE STOP THE OBJECTION BUT WE'RE NOT REIMBURSING.
SO THAT'S THE STATUS OF THAT POLICY.
IT SEEMS BE WORKING OUT VERY WELL.
SO I PAINLESS TO CONTINUE THAT AS WELL.
UM, AND THEN FINALLY THE LAST THING THAT I HAVE IS, UM, CONSIDERATION FOR US TO CHANGE OUR PAY PERIODS FOR DEDUCTIONS.
CURRENTLY WE HAVE 26 PAY PERIODS THAT EVERYBODY RECEIVED A CHECK EVERY TWO WEEKS.
WE HAVE UM, 26 PAY PERIODS THAT WE TAKE OUT DEDUCTIONS FOR PAYMENT.
SO IF AN EMPLOYEE, UM, WE CHARGE A MONTHLY COST.
IF THE EMPLOYEE PAYS A MONTHLY COST FOR THEIR PREMIUMS, WE TAKE THAT MONTHLY COST, MULTIPLY IT BY THE 12 MONTHS AND THEY HAVE THAT COST AND DIVIDE BY THE 26 FEE PERIODS AND THEY PAY THAT PREMIUM PER CHECK.
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THE PROBLEM WITH THAT IS WE'RE CONSTANTLY REFIGURING PEOPLE'S DEDUCTIONS BECAUSE THEY'RE EITHER MAKING CHANGES OR THEY'RE LEAVING.AND SO WE'RE CONSTANTLY REFIGURING THEM BECAUSE AT THE END OF THE MONTH THEY HAVE NOT NECESSARILY PAID THEIR DEDUCTION IN FULL.
THEY'D BE THERE, UM, MOST OF THE TIME THEY UNDERPAID BECAUSE WE SPREAD IT OUT OVER A LONGER PERIOD OF TIME.
SO THEY'RE PAYING LESS A MONTH, BUT THEY WON'T BE PAID IN FULL TILL THE END OF THE YEAR.
SO IT'S A CONSTANT STRUGGLE IN OUR OFFICE OF RECALCULATING RECALCULATING RECALCULATING OF DEDUCTIONS TO MAKE SURE THAT THE TIME GETS THE MONEY THAT WE UPFRONT FOR THE, THE, UM, COST FOR PREMIUMS. SO I WAS PROPOSING THAT WE CHANGE THAT TO A 24 PAY PERIODS.
BUT ANYTHING ELSE? NO SALARIES, NO RETIREMENT, NO ANYTHING ELSE.
THE ONLY THING IT WILL AFFECT IS THEIR DEDUCTIONS.
SO WHEN YOU SAY THAT THE MONTHLY PREMIUM IS $20, IT WOULD LITERALLY BE $10 CHECK FOR THEM INSTEAD OF BEING $9 AND SOME CHANGE.
YOU KNOW, SO ON THE MONTHS THAT WE DO HAVE THE THIRD PAY PERIOD, THERE WOULD NOT BE, UH, ANY DEDUCTIONS WHERE THEIR UH, BENEFITS WOULD NOT BE TAKEN OUT OF THEIR CHECK.
SO IT'S KIND OF LIKE AN EXTRA CHECK WITH THEM FOR NO BENEFITS.
SO THEY'RE GONNA BE PAYING MORE PER CHECK, BUT IT WILL EQUAL OUT IN THE END OF THE YEAR.
AND THEN WHEN AN EMPLOYEE LEAVES AT THE END OF THE MONTH, THEY'RE PAYING FULL AND WE DON'T HAVE TO CALCULATE THINGS.
ALSO WHEN WE GO TO PAY BILLS AT THE END OF THE MONTH, UM, WE HAVE NOT COLLECTED ALL OF THE MONEY FROM THE EMPLOYEES.
SO WE'RE PAYING IT UPFRONT FOR BENEFIT THAT WE HAVEN'T COLLECTED MONEY ON YET.
SO IT'LL HELP US IN THAT RE REGARDS AS WELL.
ADMINISTRATIVE GONNA GET THE 26 CHECKS, BUT CORRECT.
THAT'S THE ONLY AND IT'S ONLY THE BENEFIT DEDUCTION.
ANYTHING ELSE JUST THAT VERY REASONABLE TO DO.
ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? WE'LL NEED TO COME BACK AND, AND IT'S PROBABLY DIFFERENT TODAY BUT ONE OF OUR NEXT BUDGET SESSIONS, WE'LL NEED TO DECIDE WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO ON HEALTH INSURANCE AND GO AHEAD AND MAKE THE DECISION.
THINGS YOU PRESENTED HERE TODAY.
I WANTED THE COURT TO HEAR WHAT SOME OF THE OPTIONS ARE THAT WE HAVE.
ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR? OKAY, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
GOOD JOB STATEMENT WHILE IT'S NINE, MY COMPUTER TIMES 12.
ALL THE NEXT ITEM IS ITEM NUMBER FIVE TO DISCUSS, CONSIDER PROPOSED COUNTYWIDE VEHICLE POLICY.
WELL YOU HAVE A DOCUMENT ON THIS AND I THINK WE GOT THE LATEST REVISED THIS MORNING.
UH, SO YOU INVOLVED IN THIS FROM THE GET GO.
THE COPY THAT YOU HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU WOULD PLAGIARIZED MOST COUNTY'S BURDENS IN THIS LEGALLY PLAGIARIZED RIGHT PLAGIARIZED.
ANYWAY, WE JUST, UH, THEY GIVE US PERMISSION TO DO THAT.
UH, ALL WE JUST DID WAS WE FORMATTED
AND UH, THAT'S UH, TAX US TO HAVE ONE POINT OF UH, WHERE THEY ONE POINT OF CONTACT IN OUR COUNTY.
SO, UH, I FEEL LIKE THAT WOULD BE THE RIGHT PLACE TO DO THIS OTHER THAN THIS PRETTY SIMPLY WHAT, WHAT Y'ALL READ BEFORE, WHAT THE LADY FROM TARRANT COUNTY COME EXPLAIN TO US.
IT'S BASICALLY THEIR VEHICLE POLICY WITH NOTHING ADDED.
UH, NOW WE'LL GO TO THE SECOND PAGE, WHICH IS THE VEHICLE REPLACEMENT POLICY AND THIS IS WHERE THE SHERIFF HAS HAD UH, ASKED FOR A COUPLE THINGS TO BE CHANGED AND IT'LL BE ON THE BACK PAGE THERE.
AND IT'S MAINLY JUST TWO YEARS OF SERVICE, TWO TO THREE YEARS ON, THREE YEARS ON, ON VEHICLE, THE MILEAGE AND EVERYTHING ELSE WE HAVE HERE.
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UH, LOOKS LIKE TAR.THERE'S QUITE, I CAN'T SAY TYPO BUT UH, THERE'S SEVERAL PLACES ANYWHERE.
IT SAYS THAT YOU GO BACK AND BE OVERRULED BY THE COMMISSIONER FOR EVERY OFFICE I THAT SHOULD BE SAYS COMMISSIONER SHOULD BE CHANGED TO COMMISSIONER'S COURT, BE BE ALL I COURT FOR US TO MAKE DECISION ON WHAT WE WANT.
THAT'D BE, I THINK IT'S UH, PAGE THREE OF 11.
PAGE FIVE 11 SAYS ON THE OUT COUNTY USE IT SAYS WE USE THE SAME STANDARDS TRAVEL REQUEST.
WE DON'T HAVE THE TRAVEL I STANDARD.
IT IS STANDARD FOR OUT TRAVEL OUTOF STATE TRAVEL REQUEST.
WHAT ITEM IS THAT? NUMBER 14 BE USED FOR OUTOF STATE TRAVEL.
THEY FIRST BE INFORMED THE SAME CRITERIA THAT WE USED FOR OUT STATE TRAVEL REQUEST.
WE NEED TO ASK THEM OUT STATE TRAVEL REQUEST OR TAKE THAT OUTTA THERE COMMISSIONER, WE DO HAVE THE POLICY MANUAL ABOUT YOU HAVE COME COMMISSIONER COURT REQUEST FOR AIRFARE OR FOR RENTAL TO OBTAIN A RENTAL VEHICLE IF THEY'RE GOING OUTSTATE.
I DUNNO IF THAT'S WHAT THE COMPARING IT TO OR NOT, BUT THAT'S THE WAY I TAKE IT BECAUSE WE DO HAVE THAT POLICY IN PLACE.
YOU DID COHERENT RIGHT? SINGLE BOX.
NUMBER FOUR, VEHICLE ALLOWANCES, I THINK KW KIND THIS A LITTLE BIT, RIGHT? UH, IF YOU GET A BID OF ALLOWANCE AND IRE RATE GOES UP JANUARY ONE, YOUR VEHICLE ALLOWANCES INCREASED TOO.
HOW CAN YOU BUDGET FOR THAT? YES, AHEAD OF TIME WE'RE GONNA SET YOU
THIS SAYS THAT YOUR DUE OUT IS GONNA INCREASE BY SEVEN, IS THAT CORRECT? KW VEHICLE ALLOWANCE IS, I DUNNO, KAREN, IS THAT THE VEHICLE ALLOWANCE IS A SEVEN MAP? YEAH, BY, THAT'S COUNTY IN COUNTY.
YOU TALKING ABOUT WHERE SOMEBODY TURNS IN WHEN THEY GO OUT ON A TRIP? NO, I'M TALKING ABOUT BID ALLOWANCE.
THAT'S, THAT'S A SET AMOUNT BEGINNING OCTOBER 1ST ENDING OF SEPTEMBER 30TH.
BUT ACCORDING TO THIS, IF THE ADDITIONAL CAR ALLOWANCE IS SET, THE AMOUNT OF THE CAR ALLOWANCE WILL BE AUTOMATICALLY ADJUSTED AT THE BEGINNING OF EACH FISCAL YEAR BY THE AMOUNT EQUAL TO THE PERCENTAGE CHANGE.
SO IT WOULD'VE TO BE COME BACK THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR BEFORE IT WENT UP 4%.
I DUNNO THAT THE, THE VEHICLE ALLOWANCE IS REALLY SET BY THE I VEHICLE ALLOWANCE ISN'T, BUT EVERY JANUARY I HAVE IT SET.
SO I GET THE ACTUAL NEW MILEAGE RATE APPROVED FOR REIMBURSEMENT AND I SENT THAT TO ALL THE DEPARTMENT HEADS SO THEY'LL KNOW WHAT THEY RATES THEY CAN GET BACK.
THIS SAYS IT'LL BE AUTOMATICALLY INCREASED BY THE RS SIX OF 11.
UH, THAT NEEDS TO BE CHANGED AND I'LL TELL YOU WHY.
'CAUSE THE IRS GOES UP AND DOWN ON THAT ROAD AND YOU REALLY HURT SOMEBODY THAT DOES A LOT OF TRAVELING IF THEY GET AN ALLOWANCE AND YOU GONNA LOWER IT BY PERCENT INSTEAD OF INCREASING THAT, THAT DOESN'T NEED TO BEED THAT WAY.
ACTUALLY, THE, THE, THE, THE LAST SENTENCE AS WELL BECAUSE WE REALLY GET DOWN INTO ITEM SIX.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT MILEAGE REIMBURSEMENT NETWORK.
MOST OF THIS WOULD BE REIMBURSEMENT, RIGHT.
EMPLOYEE TERMS. BUT I SEE WHAT RAY'S
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TALKED ABOUT.WE'VE UH, I THINK WE COULD JUST LEAVE ITEM FOUR JUST FOR THAT FIRST SENTENCE.
IT KIND OF SOUNDS LIKE IN, IN THE SECOND SENTENCE IT READS IT AS IF THERE'S A SUPPLEMENTAL AMOUNT.
IS THERE, SO THE FIRST SENTENCE NUMBER FOUR, I'M NOT SURE I UNDERSTOOD WHAT YOU SAID, JOHN.
THE SECOND SENTENCE READS AS IF THERE'S A SECOND LINES AFTER THE VEHICLE.
HOWEVER, AFTER THE INITIAL, THE AMOUNT OF THE LINES SHALL BE ADJUSTED.
I THINK THAT'S GONNA BE DONE IF CHANGE WOULD BE DONE BY COMMISSIONER'S COURT MANAGER.
THE JUDGE SUGGESTED HE'S YES SIR.
PRETTY VOLUNTEERED FOR THIS
WELL, NO, I THINK THAT THAT'S GONNA BE, WE DON'T HAVE A GARAGE OR ANYTHING THIS POINT IN THE, ALL THE INFORMATION.
CLAY KNOW YOU'VE TALKED WITH, UH, MRS. UH, THE LADY FROM MS. RUSSELL, MS. RUSSELL, UH, MAY THAT BE THE TIME? ANY ANY COMMENTS YOU'D HAVE ABOUT THIS? WE, I'VE TALKED TO CLAYTON ABOUT ASSUMING THAT ROLE IN ADDITION TO WHAT HE DOES AND HE FEELS LIKE HE CAN DO THAT.
AND I BELIEVE YOU HAVE SOME EXPERIENCE IN THIS TYPE OF WORK, UH, AS WELL.
AND SO YOU WANNA TELL US YOUR THOUGHTS ABOUT THIS, THIS POLICY IN 30 SECONDS OR LESS? WELL, IF NO, WELL THE POLICY, YEAH, I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM POLICY.
AS FAR AS MY ROLE IN IT, IF, IF YOU WERE WANTING ME TO GET A PROGRAM GOING WHERE I BASICALLY GO OUT AND MORE OR LESS LAY HANDS ON EVERY VEHICLE THAT THE COUNTY HAS THAT'S, YOU KNOW, UNDER ONE TON OR UNDER AND BASICALLY GET A SPREADSHEET GOING, UH, UH, HAS THE MILEAGE ON IT, HAS THE, UH, UH, VEHICLE DESCRIPTION BEING, UH, HOW POWER IT IS WHEN, YOU KNOW THEY GET A PROGRAM GOING TO, UH, BASICALLY WHEN IT NEEDS TO BE REPLACED ACCORDING TO THE POLICY RIGHT.
UH, AS FAR AS THE, THE OTHER ADMINISTRATIVE PART OF IT, UH, WHATEVER IT'S, UH, FLOOR WANTS TO DO OR HAS TO DO AND UH, WHAT COMMISSIONERS WANT TO DO.
THAT'S, I I I'LL DO THE LEG WORK BASICALLY IS WHAT I'M, WHAT I'M SAYING, KIND OF SET IT UP AND GROW INTO IT, SIR.
AND THAT'S, AND HOW SHE STARTED HERS WAS THAT THAT SAME WAY SHE PHYSICALLY WENT OUT, UH, LAID HAND ON EVERY VEHICLE, UH, YOU KNOW, GOT ALL THE INFORMATION, THE, AND THAT STUFF THING GOT THE, THE PROGRAM GOING THAT I SHOWED YOU IN YOUR OFFICE.
AND IT'S A WHOLE LOT EASIER TO KEEP UP WITH IT ON A SPREADSHEET AND CHECK ON THE VEHICLES EVERY, YOU KNOW, QUARTERLY, THAT KIND OF THING VERSUS, YOU KNOW, HAVING, YOU KNOW, EACH DEPARTMENT ALL THE TIME, YOU KNOW, FILLING OUT RECORDS AND SENDING THEM TO ME, THAT KIND OF THING.
SO IN OTHER WORDS, EVERYWHERE IN HERE THAT SAYS PURCHASING AGENT, WOULD THAT BE, UH, WHAT WOULD BE CLAYTON'S TILE? FLEET MANAGER.
SO EVERY STILL MAINTAIN THE INVENTORY.
BEVERLY, MY, I HAD TO BREAK SOMETHING WHILE I GO MY GLASSES.
UH, PAGE EIGHT SECTION COMPREHENSIVE REPORT SENT THE PURCHASING AGENT, YOU KNOW, AND OVER VEHICLE DAMAGE AND YADA REPORT ON, ON THE DAMAGE AND I'LL DETERMINE,
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I RESPONDED REQUEST, I TOLD THAT, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT, I'M NOT, I'M NOT GONNA ASSESS THE DAMAGE.I LOOKED ALL OVER 2 62, 2 63 2 7 1.
WHAT YOU WANT DOESN'T SAY ANYTHING ABOUT THE FIRST, SO THAT COURT SO PART YOU UNDERSTAND I, I'M FINE.
I WE HAVE
WE TALKED THE OTHER DAY, DIDN'T WANT DISCUSS THAT LY, BUT YOU, YOU GUYS MANAGEMENT MANAGER, I'M, I'M START WHAT? THE BOOKS THAT I DO, I CAN'T DO MY JOB CORRECTLY ANYMORE FOR THINGS PUT ON, SO I'M NOT GOING ANY FORM OR FASHION VEHICLE.
AS FAR AS THE INVENTORY THOUGH, CAREFULLY WAY MY JOB.
THAT'S NOT LATE PURCHASING, NOT SO FLEET MANAGER WILL ASSESS THE DAMAGE.
IS THAT SOMETHING YOU SEE A PROBLEM? THAT'S NOTHING I'M TRAINED IN THOUGH.
THAT'S, THAT'S MY ONLY ARGUMENT WITH THAT IS, UH, I MEAN YES, I CAN TELL YOU SOMETHING'S DAMAGED, BUT UH, I DON'T HAVE, YOU KNOW, THAT'D BE MORE OF AN INSURANCE ADJUST JOB TO TELL ME HOW MUCH, WHAT'S DAMAGED, HOW BAD IT DAMAGED, WHAT WOULD COST TO FIX IT.
I, I WOULDN'T FEEL COMFORTABLE PUTTING MY NAME ON THAT PROCEDURE, A DUTY FOR HIM.
CALL THE INSURANCE ADJUSTER AND SAY, YOU KNOW, ON SUCH AND SUCH DIRECT TRUCK OUT.
AND I WOULD IMAGINE TAR COUNTY PROBABLY WENT THROUGH THAT SAME SCENARIO, CHECK HOW THEY HANDLE.
WOULD THAT BE SAFE TO SAY THAT NUMBER THREE UNDER, UH, SECTION EIGHT, WHICH IS COMMISSION BEFORE THEY PREPARES MANAGER.
OTHER COMMENTS? SO EVERY WORD SAYS IN HERE, PERFECTLY AGENT THAT NEEDS TO BE INSERTED IS PLEA MANAGER.
YOUR WELL JUST IN THAT, UH, COMMISSIONER PITFALL IN THE DUTIES OF INVENTORY, THAT'S ALL MINE.
UH, I'S NOT, I'M JUST NOT GONNA DECIDE WHEN VEHICLES REPLACED.
BUT FAR AS PUT INVENTORY, YOU GUYS GIMME A, UH, SET OF MILEAGE.
MAY WANT SELL CAR, AND I NEED TO GET A CAR.
I'LL, IN THAT SAME EIGHT PARAGRAPHS, THE PERSON, AGENT SHALL TAKE CONTROL.
AND, UH, I DON'T THINK WE'LL BE PREPARED.
KATHY, DID YOUR, UH, DID YOUR, UH, CONCERNS GET ADDRESSING THIS WORK? I MISSED DEAL DISCUSSED.
WE DISCUSSED CHANGES THAT WE MADE, AND THEN UP AT SOME POINT, WE DON'T HAVE TO DO THIS BEFORE THE BUDGET YEAR STARTS.
IT WOULD BE NICE IF WE COULD, OKAY, PAGE 11.
UH, OUR COUNTY TRUCKS ARE EQUIPPED FLASHING THAT.
AND WHEN WE STOP, WE, UH, STRIVE TO USE THEM.
BUT THE CONE DEAL WHERE YOU GET OUT AND PUT THAT CONE AT THE LEFT REAR CORNER VEHICLE, YOU KNOW, IS THAT SOMETHING Y'ALL WANNA HAVE DONE? I MEAN, THAT'S,
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WE'VE NEVER USED THEM LIKE THAT.IT'S JUST ANOTHER FOR SAFETY, BUT IT'S FOR TIMESCALE.
ON NUMBER 11, PAGE 10 OF 11, NUMBER 11, PRINTED OUT NUMBER FLASH LIGHTS TURNED OFF AND TRAFFIC COMES IN PLACE WHENEVER A PIECE EQUIP STOPPED Y'ALL USE.
DOES EVERYBODY USE TRAFFIC CONES EVERY TIME THEY STOP, GET OUT, PICK UP.
I AS LONG AS YOU HAZARD THE INSURANCE COMPANY.
I DUNNO WHETHER WE KNOW THAT OR NOT.
SOMETHING YOU GET THAT, THAT TO BE LAUREN.
ON, ON THE WHERE, WHERE WE HAVE A VEHICLE STOPPED, UH, MAINTENANCE ROAD BRIDGE.
IF IT'S NECESSARY FOR THEM TO HAVE A HOME, THE REAR, THE VEHICLE ON THE LEFT SIDE.
LOT OF YOUR COMMERCIAL VEHICLES LOOKING OUT THE ENTIRE THERE.
BUT I KNOW A LOT OF THE OTHER COMMERCIAL LIKE AT&T LIKE THAT, THEY, THEY PRETTY, THE REASON THEY PUT REASON THEY PUT THEIR CONES OUT IS NORTH OF THEIR ACCIDENTS ARE BACKING UP ACCIDENTS.
THEY PUT THE CONES BEHIND THE VEHICLE.
THAT WHY THE FIRST GONNA PICK IT UP BEFORE IT GETS, STARTS BACK THERE.
MAKE SURE IT DONE ALSO, A LOT OF THEM DROVE OFF LEFT.
WHY DON'T WE REWORK THIS AND THEN COME BACK.
ITEM NUMBER, UH, SIX IS DISCUSS CONSOLIDATION OF DEPARTMENTS CREATION, NEW DEPARTMENTS, PLACEMENT OF DEPARTMENTS, PLACEMENT OF SUCH POSSIBLE NEW DEPARTMENTAL COMMISSIONER HAD PUT THIS ON ITEM FOR DISCUSSION IN THAT REGARD.
AS FAR AS THE ANNEX IS CONCERNED, UH, I HAVE A, I PUT THIS AS FAR AS THE OFFICES, EVERYBODY GETTING TO SEE WHAT THE UPSTAIRS IS GOING LOOK LIKE.
AND I SAY EVERYBODY, NOT EVERYBODY'S BEEN UPSTAIRS, BUT THESE ARE, I WOULD POINT OUT THESE ARE VERY, UH, AND THE FIRST, THE FIRST, UH, HANDOUT IS THE SECOND STORY OF THIS BUILDING AND GO THROUGH ALL OF THESE.
BUT YOU SEE WHERE PURCHASING WILL BE UPSTAIRS.
UH, THE TREASURER'S OFFICE WILL BE UPSTAIRS.
THE AUDITOR'S OFFICE WILL BE UPSTAIRS.
UH, HUMAN RESOURCES, LAURIE'S OFFICE WILL BE UPSTAIRS.
UH, WE'LL HAVE THE, UH, IT DEPARTMENT, UH, WILL BE UPSTAIRS, UH, GEORGE AND LAURIE.
UH, AND THEN WE OF COURSE HAVE THE LARGER ROOM.
THAT WILL BE A CONFERENCE ROOM.
UH, I'D HOPE THAT WE'D BE ABLE TO MAYBE HAVE THE COMMISSIONER'S ROOM.
I DON'T BELIEVE IT'S GONNA BE BIG ENOUGH, EXCEPT WHEN THIS ROOM IS NOT AVAILABLE.
WE PROBABLY NEED ANY, IT'LL BE SET UP ALL THE, UH, NECESSARY EQUIPMENTS OR VIDEO, WHATEVER WE WANNA LOOK AT.
AND THEN THE SECOND PAGE, UH, THERE'S A LITTLE SOME CHANGES HERE.
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HUMAN RESOURCES IS, WHERE MS. FLOYD IS LOCATED, I'M PROPOSING THAT WE MOVE THE, UH, MAIL ROOM, UH, OVER HERE.SO JUST, UH, YOU KNOW, WHETHER IT WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA OR NOT.
HAVE THE VETERAN SERVICE OFFICE, UH, RIGHT NEXT TO THAT OFFICE, AND THAT'S WHERE, UH, THE VSO WOULD GO.
THAT'S WHERE CLAYTON WOULD BE LOCATED.
IT KEEPS THEM ON THE, UH, BOTTOM FLOOR OF THIS BUILDING.
SO I THINK SOME OF THE COMPLAINTS THAT DON HAD SAID IS THAT SOME OF THE VETERANS DO NOT LIKE GOING IN THE COURTHOUSE BECAUSE OF ALL THE SECURITY.
AND THERE, SOME WERE HANDICAPPED, THEY HAVE TROUBLE GETTING IN.
AND THEN IT WOULD, UH, BARBARA WOULD BE IN THE OFFICE NEXT TO THAT ONE.
AND THEN THE, UH, IT INVENTORY WORKSHOP WOULD BE WHERE NICHOLAS WOULD BE LOCATED.
AND THEN THIS WOULD BE THE, WHERE ALL OF THE, UH, ITEMS THAT ARE SHIPPED THAT COME IN AND OUT WOULD BE, UH, LOCATED IN THAT PARTICULAR AREA.
UH, AND THEN, UH, THE LAST PAGE IS KIND OF A LAYOUT OF THE EXISTING ARMORY.
AND, UH, YOU'LL SEE WHERE ENERGY MANAGEMENT IS LOCATED, UH, WHERE IT IS CURRENTLY.
NOW, YOU ALSO WILL NOTICE THAT THERE'S AN ENERGY MANAGEMENT MAPPING AREA THAT WILL SET ASIDE FORMATTING WITH WHATEVER WE DETERMINED TO DO WITH, UH, THAT DEPARTMENT.
UH, YOU'VE GOT THREE OF THE SMALLER OFFICES THERE ON THE FRONT THAT COULD BE TURNED INTO THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT.
UH, YOU SEE THE FIRE MARSHAL AT THE END OF THE NORTH, UH, EAST SIDE OF THE BUILDING.
UH, THEN, UH, YOU HAVE THE RESTROOMS AS WELL AS THE, UH, UH, BREAK ROOM, UH, WHERE YOU, WHERE THEY'RE DRAWN IN.
AND THEN THE TRAINING ROOM, THAT ITEM A 1, 2, 3 WOULD BE, IT REMAIN JUST LIKE THIS.
SO THESE ARE JUST SOME IDEAS ABOUT WHERE DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS WOULD GO.
I ALSO CHECKED, UH, ON THE, UH, WHAT'S IN THE, UH, UH, THE OLD, OLD JAIL.
I CALL THAT THAT'S THE BUILDING THAT WE NOW CURRENTLY LEASE TO THE, UH, MASONS, UH, ORGANIZATION.
AND WE DO HAVE SOME ROOMS OVER THERE THAT WE DO HAVE SOME EQUIPMENT STORED IN, UH, VOTING EQUIPMENT.
UH, GENERALLY IT'S JUST MORE OR LESS A HODGEPODGE STORAGE FOR DIFFERENT OFFICES OVER THERE RIGHT NOW, WHICH COULD BE VACATED, UH, PRETTY, PRETTY EASILY, UH, THAT WE HAVE ACCESS TO.
SO I JUST WANTED TO PUT THIS OUT ON THE TABLE.
THIS IS KIND OF A WAY OF TALKING.
THESE, THESE ARE, NONE OF THESE ARE SET STONE.
IT'S JUST AN IDEA'S AT HAVE SOMETHING WE COULD TO WORK THROUGH.
WELL, MY, UH, ONE OF MY MAIN QUESTIONS WAS ABOUT THE, UH, I KNOW WE HAD TALKED EARLIER ABOUT CONSOLIDATING, UH, AND MAKING LIKE AN ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH AND SAFETY DEPARTMENT WHERE THE, UH, WE HAD SOMEONE IN CHARGE, UH, WHETHER WE PUT OUT FOR APPLICATIONS TO BE A DEPARTMENT HEAD AND, AND THEN PUT UNDER THEM, UH, THE, UH, ENVIRONMENTAL OFFICERS, UH, THAT NORMALLY SHARED DUTIES AND WORK CLOSELY WITH THE FIRE MARSHALS AND, UH, THE, THE 9 1 1 COORDINATOR, WHICH UNDER THEM WOULD BE THE, THE SEPTIC INSPECTION OFFICER AND GIS COORDINATOR.
AND MY CONCERN IS THAT IF, IF WE SPREAD THESE OUT AND SEPARATE 'EM, PEOPLE ARE GONNA HAVE TO GO MULTIPLE PLACES TO GET THEIR PERMITS WHERE, UH, IF WE PUT 'EM IN A DEPARTMENT LIKE THIS IN, IN ONE SITE, THEY COULD COME GET EVERY PERMIT THEY NEEDED RIGHT AT, AT ONE, ONE STOP.
UH, THIS IS FIRST I'VE SEEN ABOUT THE PUBLIC WORKS AND, UH, THE, UH, RECEPTION IN THAT.
BUT I, I'M CONCERNED ABOUT NOT HAVING ENOUGH ROOM THERE FOR THOSE OFFICES.
KATHY, HAVE YOU GOT ANY COMMENT ON THIS? I, KATHY'S NOT SEEN THIS.
I DON'T THINK IT'S, I HAVE BEEN OVER TO THE, THE THREE FRONT OFFICES.
THE CONCERN WITH THE, THE ROOM THERE, THOSE EXISTING OFFICES IS FOR A FILE ROOM.
MY, UH, CLERK, SHE HAS TO HAVE ACCESS TO THE PERMIT FILES ALL DAY LONG, EVERY DAY.
AND THE FILE ROOM THAT WE'VE GOT RIGHT NOW IS ADEQUATE SIZED TO DO THAT.
AND IT'S RIGHT NEXT TO HER OFFICE.
AND WHEN I INITIALLY WENT OUT TO THE ARMORY AND I SAW THAT, I SAID, YOU KNOW, THE IDEA WAS THAT THE FILES WE PUT WAY AT THE, THE BACK OF THE ARMORY AND I, THAT ABSOLUTELY WILL NOT WORK FOR WHAT SHE DOES.
UM, YOU'RE LOOKING AT FIVE PEOPLE AND AS IN CURRENTLY AS IT AS IS CURRENTLY, AND EVEN WHEN I LEAVE, THEY'LL STILL NEED FIVE PEOPLE.
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THOSE OFFICERS ARE KIND OF SMALL.EVERYBODY WOULD NEED THEIR OWN ENTRY INTO IT BECAUSE OF THE DIFFERENT JOBS THAT THEY DO.
AND YOU CAN'T HAVE THE PUBLIC PASSING THROUGH ONE PERSON'S OFFICE TO ANOTHER PERSON'S OFFICE TO GET TO THE THIRD PERSON'S OFFICE.
THERE WAS SOME ISSUES WITH HOW IT'S CURRENTLY LAID OUT.
THAT WOULDN'T BE A GOOD FUNCTION FOR WHAT MY DEPARTMENT DOES WITHOUT BUILDING A LARGER AREA FOR THE FILING TO BE.
NO, THAT'S THE MAIN, THERE IS A STORAGE AREA THERE.
UH, IF YOU LOOK ON THE LOWER LEFT HAND SIDE, RIGHT, YEAH.
AND THEN THE, UH, ENVIRONMENTAL OFFICER, THEY, THERE'S NO PLACE TO PUT THEM.
IF WE DID TRY TO CONSOLIDATE, IF THEY COULD GO THERE, THEY COULD GO TO THE FIRE MARSHAL OFFICE.
THEY GO INTO THE FIRE MARSHAL AREA AND I DON'T EXPECT THAT THEY'RE GONNA STAY IN THEIR OFFICE LOT OF THE TIME.
WELL, I HOPE NONE OF THEM FIRE MARSHAL DEPUTIES.
BUT YOU KNOW, THE CONCERN WAS THAT, UH, THEY, THEY WOULDN'T HAVE A OFFICE AND THEN THE, THE, UH, A DA, YOU KNOW, MANDATES WE WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO CHANGE THE DOORS ON, ON ALL THESE.
AND I KNOW THAT'S AN ADDED COST.
AND RIGHT NOW THE DOOR ON THE PROPOSED FIRE MARSH.
ANY OFFICE HAS, YOU WILL HAVE PERSONNEL COME IN INTO GET PERMITS.
AND I THINK, UH, GEORGE, YOUR YES, THAT WE, THAT'S ONE OF THE, UH, ISSUES WE DISCUSSED AT OUR CONSTRUCTION MEETINGS.
RIGHT? THAT'S ONE OF OUR ITEMS THAT WE AGREED TO DO.
WE'RE GONNA PROVIDE ALL THE DOOR AND SO OUT AREA AROUND WITH THE, YOU KNOW, AWAY FROM THE AREA DISPATCH AND E OF EVERY RIGHT.
AND THAT'S ADDITIONAL COST, WHAT, 40 AS WELL.
UM, AT THE SAME TIME, IF, IF WE PUT, PUT ALL THE COSTS IN THERE, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO PUT FIRE SPRINKLER SYSTEM A 29,000 COST.
I DIDN'T THINK IT WAS GONNA BE A COST INCREASE FOR FIRE SYSTEM WAS ORIGINALLY THEY WANTED TO DO THE E OOC AND THE 9 1 1, EXCEPT FOR $29,000, THEY COULD DO THE ENTIRE BUILDING.
AND SO WE DECIDE THAT PUT INSURANCE IN THE ENTIRE BUILDING, BUT IT WOULDN'T BE, OH NO, IT'S ENTIRE BUILDING THE REMAINDER OF THE BUILDING GRID, THE TRAINING.
AND AT ONE POINT, UH, BRIAN RAISED CONCERN ABOUT ALL THESE OFFICES WERE, WERE TAKEN UP.
WHERE WOULD THEY HAVE A, UH, UH, A ROOM LIKE WE HAD A, YOU KNOW, DISASTER LIKE WE HAD IN THE PAST.
HE SAID ALL, EVERYTHING WAS COMPLETELY FULL WITH PERSONNEL, EMERGENCY PERSONNEL, FBI AND EVERYTHING.
I JUST DIDN'T WANT TO CLUTTER UP THIS, THIS BUILDING IF, IF IT'S GOING BE NEEDED FOR EMERGENCY OPERATIONS.
WELL, YOU HAVE, YOU'VE GOT THIS EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT CENTER, RIGHT, BUT THAT'S BRIAN KIND OF SHERIFF, IF YOU GOT ANY THOUGHT ON THE, THE USE OF THIS SPACE.
BRIAN HAD A CONCERN ABOUT, UH, NOT HAVING ENOUGH ROOM TO, TO PUT EVERYBODY THAT MIGHT HAVE TO COME IN LIKE A COMMAND POST WHAT Y'ALL HAD IN THE PAST.
IF ALL THESE OFFICERS ARE OCCUPIED, IS THAT GOING TO HINDER THE ABILITY OF THIS BUILDING TO FUNCTION FOR THE PURPOSE OF WE'RE SPENDING THE MONEY ON TO REMODEL, WELL MAKE AN EMERGENCY CENTER.
I, I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH OF IS GOING TO BE SET ASIDE AS FAR AS THE DIMENSIONS ON THE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT.
AND THAT'S WHERE, YOU KNOW, IF WE GET PEOPLE IN THERE, THAT'S WHERE WE, SO I, I COULDN'T SPEAK AUTHOR THAT WE CAN DO THERE IS HOW FLOW AND BE EFFICIENT.
I THINK WE NEED TO LOOK AT THAT.
AND, BUT RIGHT NOW, YOU KNOW WHAT WE HAD TALKED ABOUT EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT, I WHAT THAT, BUT I THINK WE DID A LOT ABOUT 1500 FEET.
IT'S 1,250 SQUARE FEET, 1250 SQUARE FEET.
AND, AND IF I, IF I MAY SHERIFF, UH, YES.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE ALSO HAVE TO BEAR IN MIND IS IN A MAJOR DISASTER, YOU'RE GONNA NEED SOME SEARCH SPACE IN ADDITION TO THE EOC PUBLIC WORKS.
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IF THEY'RE IN THERE, THEY'VE GOT TO CONTINUE THEIR DAY-TO-DAY OPERATIONS.WHEN AND IF WE START PUTTING A LOT OF EXTRA PEOPLE IN THERE, THAT MAY AFFECT THEIR ABILITY TO CARRY ON THEIR DAY-TO-DAY JOBS.
AND MY CONCERN IS THE SECURITY AT THAT POINT, BECAUSE WE HAVE THE PUBLIC COMING IN AND OUT, WE DON'T WANT PUBLIC MIXING WITH THE SECURE AREA OF THE FACILITY.
AND I, I'M NOT QUITE SURE HOW YOU WOULD WELL THAT'S THE PURPOSE OF THE RECEPTIONIST THERE.
UH, THE WINDOW THAT GOES OUT INTO THE AREA, THEY WOULD'VE ACCESS TO THE HALL, BUT THEY WOULDN'T HAVE ACCESS TO THE ENTIRE BUILDING WITHOUT BEING BUZZED IN.
THEN IF THERE WAS A RECEPTIONIST IS IS THE CLERK THAT DOES ALL THE SUB SYSTEM PERMITTING AND STUFF LIKE THAT, THEN WE COME BACK TO THE SAME PROBLEM AS SHE'S GOT TO GO THROUGH TWO EXTRA OFFICES TO GET TO PERMITS THAT SHE NEEDS TO TALK TO PEOPLE ON THE PHONE WITH AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
WELL, I CAN FIND A DOZEN REASONS WHY SOMETHING WILL WORK OR WHY IT WON'T WORK.
CONSOLIDATE EVERYBODY INTO AN AREA THAT MAKES OUR COUNTY MORE WORKABLE.
MAY ABLE TO CONVERTED INTO A COUPLE OF OFFICES IN THE FILE ROOM NEXT TO PERHAPS I I HADN'T BEEN IN THAT STORAGE ROOM SOMETIMES.
YEAH, I DIDN'T KNOW IT WAS THERE.
I THINK STEVE HAD A LOT STUFF IN ONE.
AND THE STORAGE ROOM IS THE VAULT THAT'S GONNA HAVE TO BE DIVIDED OR SOMETHING TO THIS ONE.
WHERE'S THE OTHER STORAGE ROOM YOU TALKING ABOUT? RIGHT IN FRONT.
RIGHT NOW THE STORAGE IS WHERE THE OH, PW STORAGE.
THAT IS WHERE THE ELECTRICAL PANELS COME IN.
AND ALSO THE DATA THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE.
ONE TELL THOUGH ON THAT, ALL THE DATA THAT'S GONNA GO WHEN WE BUILD THE ELC IN THE DISPATCH CENTER, THE D MARK AND ALL THAT WILL GO TO THE BACK OF THE DOOR.
WELL THAT STUFF STILL BE THERE.
NO, YOU'LL PULL UP, PULL THE ELECTRICAL PANELS, THEY'LL JUST DO ONE RACK.
OUR STUFF WILL BE, BUT IT, IT'S STILL GONNA ONLY GIVE YOU ABOUT HALF THAT TOTAL SPACE.
ANOTHER AREA THAT COULD POSSIBLY BE USED FOR THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT OVER HERE, MASON, WE STILL HAVE ACCESS TO.
AND I THINK THAT'S WHERE YOU WERE AT ONE TIME OR ANOTHER THAT THAT'S WHY I STARTED IN THE OLD JAIL A HUNDRED YEARS AGO.
BUT THAT WOULD BE CONVENIENT FOR THE PUBLIC BECAUSE THEY DO HAVE TO FILE AFFIDAVITS OF THE COUNTY CLERK'S OFFICE IN CONJUNCTION SYSTEM FOR ME BECAUSE THAT'D BE A LITTLE BIT MORE CONVENIENT FOR THEM.
AND I SAID THIS ISN'T SET IN STONE.
IT'S JUST A MATTER OF TRYING TO MAKE SURE WE GET AS NEW PEOPLE ION HOW WE SAVE SOME MONEY TO TAXPAYER THE POLICY, OPEN THE DOOR AND KEEP IT OPEN.
WE'RE ALWAYS HAVING THE THOUGHT THAT WE'RE GONNA GROW AND ENLARGE.
AND I JUST WORRIED THAT THIS WILL HAVE US ED WHERE WE CAN'T GROW AT THE SOUTH CAMPUS ONCE PURCHASING AND THE AUDITORS OUT THERE WILL HAVE PLENTY OF ROOM TO WELL, I KNOW THAT TRYING TO REDUCE, I'M, THAT'S MY GOAL.
THE, THE ELECTRIC BILL AND STUFF OUT THERE.
BUT, UM, WE'RE STILL GONNA HAVE COURT OUT THERE TWO DAYS A WEEK, COUPLE DAYS A WEEK.
SO WE'LL HAVE SOME DAYS, SOME WEEKS IT'S JUST ONE OR TWO AND STILL WE'RE GONNA HAVE THE JP AND CONSTABLE OUT THERE.
I'M JUST CONCERNED WITH CRAMMING THEM UP.
THAT'S ACTUALLY DESIGNED OR, YOU KNOW, WE HAD THE DISCUSSION OF, OF GIVING SPACE FOR EMERGENCY OPERATION IN THE DISPATCH CENTER INSTEAD OF, INSTEAD OF KEEPING THEM CONFINED.
SO WHO WOULD YOU NOT MOVE? UH, I WOULD ACTUALLY, UH, IN MY OPINION, HAVE THE FIRE MARSHALS, UM, THE DEPUTIES AND ALL THEM REMAIN WHERE THEY'RE AT AND PLACED ENVIRONMENTAL OFFICERS OUT THERE AT THE SOUTH CAMPUS ONCE, UH, PERSON AND AND ORDER OUT THERE AND THEN KEEP THE, THE, UH, 9 1 1 COORDINATOR AND ALL IN AT, AT THE SAME LOCATION AT NO, THE SOUTH CAMPUS.
BASICALLY YOU KEEP ABOUT, UH, THE THREE FIRE MARKS.
UH, AND THEN YOU KEEP ALL OF THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT YES.
AND OUR ENVIRONMENTAL OFFICER.
AND WE, I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT A FACILITY ADMINISTRATOR.
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I DO TOO.I THINK WE NEED TO CREATE THAT PART.
JUST A MATTER OF FINDING MONEY TO DO IT RIGHT.
WELL, I THINK, UH, A FACILITY ADMINISTRATOR, FACILITY MANAGER COULD MORE THAN PAY FOR ITSELF THIS BUILDING BY COMMITTEE THAT WE HAVE, UH, WE HAVE LOTS OF SETBACKS AND THINGS THAT SHOW UP ON PLAN.
WELL, THE THING THING I WANT, EVERY TIME WE GET READY TO MAKE A DECISION ON SOMETHING, YOU HAVE TO CALL THE COMMISSIONER.
DO GO SAY GOVERNMENT SINCE LARRY'S HERE, COULD THEY ASK? YES.
LARRY, SIR, COME UP PLEASE IF I CAN.
WE JUST HAVE TO FIND A WAY TO WATCH EVERYBODY IN THAT ONE LITTLE ROOM.
YOU WOULDN'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE TWO ENVIRONMENTAL GUYS HAVING OFFICE SPACE IN, IN YOUR LITTLE TWO AREA.
I THOUGHT ABOUT PUTTING THOSE GUYS IN THERE.
THEY, THEY SHOULD BE OUT THERE IN THE FIELD MOST OF THE TIME.
SO THEY'RE NOT GONNA BE IN AN OFFICE.
PERCENT TIME IF THEY'RE GONNA BE MOVED THERE, WHO WOULD, WHO WOULD HEADING, WOULD THEY BE, WOULD BE, WOULD THEY STILL BE PLACED AT THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT OR WOULD THEY BE PLACED ON MARSHALS? MY UNDERSTANDING WHAT THE JUDGE SAID, I'M GOING MOVE THAT THOSE PERSONNEL OVER TO THAT, THAT OFFICE, THEY'VE GOTTA BE UNDER SOMEONE TO CONTAIN THE COMMISSION.
FIRE MARSHAL CAN, IT'S GOTTA BE A, YOU KNOW, A COMMISSION'S OFFICE.
BUT MY UNDERSTANDING WAS THAT THEY WOULD BE MOVED OUTTA THE, AND MY, THE JUDGE THAT WAS WHAT I UNDERSTOOD WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT IT INITIALLY.
THAT WAS MY, THAT WAS MY PLAN STILL IS FOR THAT MATTER.
BUT IF THERE'S LEGITIMATE REASONS WHY IT WON'T WORK, UH, I'M ALL EARS ABOUT THAT.
I JUST, UH, IT LOOKS LIKE TO ME WE'RE LEAVING SOME AREAS OPEN OUT THERE WITH NOBODY IN THEM FOR NO GOOD PURPOSE.
I, I DO BELIEVE IN ENVIRONMENTAL OFFICERS AND MY OFFICERS WOULD REALLY WORK WELL TOGETHER.
I THINK BETWEEN ALL OF US, WE'D BE ABLE TO HELP EACH OTHER AND THEREFORE ALSO HELP THE COUNTY.
WE CALL CALL ON BASIS WHEN WE STUMBLE UP ON SOMETHING OR THEY STUMBLE UP ON SOMETHING.
SO I THINK WE CAN ALL WORK TOGETHER IF THAT IS DIRECTED AS FAR AS OUT THERE IN THE SAME OFFICES WE MAKE, WE JUST HAVE TO MAKE IT WORK.
BE WELL, IF YOU GO UP TO THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, THE DISTRICT'S CLERK OFFICE, I MEAN YOU TALKED ABOUT THE CROWD.
AND I DON'T SEE HAVING, UH, A FEW MORE PEOPLE IN THAT OFFICE THAT'S GONNA BE ANY WORSE THAN WHAT CURRENTLY EXISTS IN TWO MAJOR OFFICES.
THAT'S WHERE Y'ALL IN THEM AND THAT'S WHAT WE WORK.
IT JUST MAKES NO SENSE TO ME TO VACATE A BUILDING THAT HAS A LOT OF ROOM, ROOM TO GROW EXTRA OFFICES SOON AND PUT 'EM IN A SMALL CROWN SPACE THAT HAS NO ROOM TO GROW.
WELL, COMMISSIONER, I DISAGREE, BUT THAT'S YOUR OPINION.
THAT'S WHY WE'RE HAVING YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.
I JUST, IT'S UP TO THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT TO DECIDE WHERE THE OFFICER I AGREE WITH THAT.
AND I'VE BEEN VERY CLEAR AND WHAT I THINK SHOULD HAPPEN, BUT I WOULD ALSO SAY THAT WE OPERATE A BUILDING OUT THERE THAT COSTS US ABOUT 36,000 A YEAR FOR UTILITIES.
IF WE CAN CUT THE USE OF THAT BUILDING DOWN BY HALF, THAT CONCEIVABLY WILL SAVE US $18,000.
IT MIGHT INCONVENIENCE PEOPLE.
BUT TO ME, WHEN SOMEBODY GOES IN THAT BUILDING WITH NOBODY BEING THERE OTHER THAN THE FIRE MARSHAL OR THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT, HOW ARE THEY GOING TO, HOW ARE THEY GOING TO GET TO WHERE THEY NEED TO GO? I MEAN, WE, WHO'S GONNA ANSWER THE PHONE OUT THERE? WHO'S GONNA BE RESPONSIBLE? I FOLLOW, I MEAN FOR IF WE LEAVE THEM AT THE EXISTING, UH, AT THE SOUTH CAMPUS.
WELL, SAME PEOPLE HAVE BEEN AS RESPONSIBLE FOR, WELL, WE'VE HAD THE PUBLIC WORKS.
I MEAN WE'VE HAD, UH, THE, UH, UH, PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT OUT THERE.
WE'VE HAD THE IT DEPARTMENT OUT THERE AND UH, JACK'S BEEN OUT THERE AND SO WELL, IF WE LEAVE 'EM ALL THERE, NOTHING WILL CHANGE.
WE'LL STILL HAVE CLEAN THE ROOM, UH, TO ADD OFFICES AND THE SHERIFF WILL STILL HAVE TO EXPAND.
OR LIKE STEVE SAID, CASE OF A DISASTER.
THAT'S JUST MY, MY DISCUSSION.
YOU KNOW, LIKE I SAY, WE'RE ALWAYS TALKING ABOUT GROWTH AND ENLARGING AND EXPANDING AND I'M JUST AFRAID WE'RE GONNA BE DOING THE WELL, I, I RESPECT YOUR OPINION.
JOHN, HAVE YOU GOT AN OPINION ON, UH,
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WHAT WE CAN VOTE ON TODAY? OR, OR ARE WE GONNA MAKE A DECISION TODAY? I DON'T THINK WE'RE GONNA RIGHT DECISION TODAY WITHOUT COMING BACK.SEEING WHO'S GOING BE WHERE AND WHO'S, WHO'S GONNA BE WORKING FOR, WHO IS THE ENVIRONMENTAL OFFICERS? THEY GONNA BE WORKING WITH LARRY OR THEY GONNA BE UNDER ANOTHER DEPARTMENT AND UH, YOU KNOW, I MEAN THERE'S SOME PRETTY BOTTOM LINE QUESTION I THINK WE HAVE TO FIGURE OUT RIGHT NOW.
THIS MAKES A LOT OF DIFFERENCE.
WE, WE LOOK AT EVERYTHING OUT THERE.
WE'LL SEE IF ON THIS, UH, ANNEX HERE IS THE, UH, TAX ASSESSOR COLLECTOR HER OFFICE WHERE IT IS, WHERE HER, HER INDIVIDUAL OFFICE BY MOVING THE DEPUTY SERVICE, THE MAIL ROOM HERE, ERROR.
THAT'S WHERE SHE'D LIKE TO HAVE MOST THE ASSISTANT DAS SOME SECRETARIES.
TRYING TO GET SOME MORE DISTRICT ATTORNEY.
WE CAN PROBABLY MOVE FOUR OR FIVE PEOPLE OR EMBARRASSED THE DA'S OFFICE.
WAS EVERYBODY IN AGREEMENT THAT WE SHOULD LOOK INTO, UH, CREATING A FACILITY ADMINISTRATOR OFFICE TO TAKE THE BUILDING BACK MEETING AND STUFF OUT THE EQUATION? I THINK WE NEED TO DO IT.
I, OR WHETHER THIS IS YEAR TO DO IT AND I, I CAN FUNCTION IN THAT ROLE.
I'M PERFECTLY WILLING TO DO THAT AND WOULD NOT MIND DOING THAT UNTIL WE GET A LITTLE FURTHER DOWN THE ROAD ON THIS.
IN FACT, THAT'S KIND OF VOLUNTEERS
WELL THAT'S KIND OF WHAT I HAVE BEEN DOING UNTIL WE GOT INTO THESE MAJOR PROJECTS.
TYPICALLY, I THINK IN MOST COUNTIES, THE COUNTY JUDGE KIND OF OVERSEES ALL THE FACILITIES EXCEPT THOSE IN A PRECINCT AND I'M THE ONE THAT GETS THE COMPLAINTS ABOUT THEM.
SO I'M PERFECTLY WILLING TO DO THAT.
I HAVE, UH, I DID THAT FOR ABOUT 10 YEARS TERRORIZED LEASE.
SO I'M NOT A CONSTRUCTION EXPERT AT ANY TIME, BUT I BY ANY MEANS.
BUT I CERTAIN DO MY PART DID YOU HAVE SOMEBODY IN MIND? NO, I DIDN'T.
I THOUGHT WE WERE JUST GONNA SET APPLICATIONS IF WE DECIDED TO GO THAT ROUTE.
UH, WE PUT APPLICATIONS OUT, YOU KNOW, GET A LOT OF, A LOT OF TALENT.
IT'S JUST, YOU KNOW, IT'S A LOT, LOT TO ALL THIS BUILDING IN THE REMODEL AND SOMEONE THAT COULD ACTUALLY ASSESS THE SQUARE FOOTAGE NECESSARY FOR EACH OFFICE.
YOU KNOW, WHAT'S, WHAT'S NEEDED PER PERSON.
WELL WE HAVE LEANED ON JACK QUITE A BIT TO HELP DO THAT OVER THE LAST YEAR.
I'M WORRIED ABOUT JACK AND GEORGE SINCE WE STARTED THE YEAH.
SINCE WE UH, STARTED THE UH, TWO BIG PROJECTS.
THEY BROUGHT THE BOOK WITH I BET 2 52.
I'VE GOT A JUDGE, UH, I'VE GOT A INVOICE FROM THE, UH, MECHANICAL OF PROBABLY NO COMPANY WE DEAL WITH.
UH, IT'S A 4,000 INVOICE AND WHILE I CONTRACT WITH THESE GUYS WHEN INVOICE COMES IN, I'M EXPECTED TO SIGN OFF THIS WORK THAT'S BEEN DONE.
AND TYPICALLY WHAT YOU SEE WHEN YOU SEE COUNTY GET IN TROUBLE, IT STARTS WITH THE PURCHASING AGENT AND THEN THE NEXT GUY, FACILITY GUY, YOU GUYS THAT HAVE THE ACTIVE VOTE TIME TO TIME.
SO I'M GONNA SIGN SO IN HERE THAT I DON'T KNOW WHETHER IT'S WORK'S BEEN DONE OR NOT.
OR WHO ORDERED IT, SERGEANT OR WHO ORDERED IT.
AND THAT'S THE REASON IT'S SENT TO YOU.
I THINK THE ROAD WE'RE HEADED DOWN.
YOU KNOW, I THINK A GOOD IDEA JUST WE HAD A SLASH UH, GUY.
WELL I THINK IT WOULD SAVE US MANY TIMES.
WHAT THE SALARY, THE EXAMPLE, YOU KNOW, I'M CURRENTLY MANAGING THE, THE, UH, ANNEX PROJECT, THE ARMY PROJECTS AND OFFICE WORK WHEN I'M UP THERE.
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AND UH, I'M NEVER GIVEN A SCOPE OF WORK.I GET QUOTES ON CONSTRUCTION, BUT I NEED SOMEBODY THAT HAS SOME BILLING BACKGROUND TO TELL ME YOU NEED KNOCK DOWN FOUR WALLS, PAYING FOUR DOOR, YOU KNOW, NOW WE'RE GOOD.
YOU NEED TO MAKE SURE ALL THE PERMITS AND NEED BE REGULATIONS TO BE THE AC IN THE ARMY.
YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A UNIT IN THERE THAT WE FOR WON'T DO THE JOB.
I THINK, I THINK WE'RE, I WE WOULD SAY, I THINK WE MANY TIMES THAT'S MY CONCERN, BUT I HATE SIGNING OFF ON THIS.
AND ON THE, THE REMODEL THAT THE, UH, VARIOUS PRECINCTS ARE REQUESTED ON THE JUDGE'S OFFICES AND STUFF, YOU KNOW, AS IT IS NOW, WE HAVE NO ONE TO GO OVER THERE AND ACTUALLY SAY, MEASURE IT OFF AND SAY, YEAH, THIS, THIS SHOULD REQUIRE, YOU KNOW, AN ARCHITECT OTHER THAN EACH COMMISSIONER LOOKING AT HIS OWN PRECINCT, YOU KNOW, AND WE SHOULD, INSTEAD OF DOING THIS NOW WE NEED TO PLAN FOR THE FUTURE.
MAYBE REMODEL IT IN A DIFFERENT MANNER.
I THINK IT'D JUST BE A GOOD IDEA.
WELL MY BIGGEST PLAN ON THE IS YOU'LL HEAR SO SAY THAT THIS IS DON'T, WE'RE ALL TEMPORARY.
THERE'S SOMEONE TO SAY, HERE'S WHY.
HERE'S WHAT I'D LIKE TO HAVE, DO MY JOB.
AND SOMEONE ASK YOU TO SAY, I GET WHAT YOU NEED.
GET WHAT YOU NEED, NOT WHAT YOU WANT.
THAT'S, I THINK SOMETHING ALSO CONSIDER HERE IS, IS UH, THE ANNEX PROJECT IS COMING TO A CLOSE I MOTOR CIRCLE AND IT'S, IT'S, IT'S COMING TO A CLOSE.
UH, THE UH, UH, ARMY, WE MADE A LOT OF PROGRESS OUT THERE.
IT'S STILL GOT A WAYS TO GO, BUT DO WE NEED A FULL TIME FACILITIES DIRECTOR FOR THIS PROJECT COMING TO THE CLOSE AND THEN THE ARMORY, WHAT DO YOU, DO YOU EXPECT TO BE THROUGH IT IN ANOTHER YEAR? DECEMBER.
DECEMBER, DECEMBER? WELL IT, IT'S DONE IN DECEMBER.
DO YOU NEED A FULL-TIME GUY AFTER THAT? WELL YOU COULD PUT ALL THE MAINTENANCE PERSONNEL UNDER HIM AND IF YOU NEED A MAINTENANCE, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE A MAINTENANCE PROBLEM, YOU COULD CALL THE, UH, THE MAIN GUY.
HE COULD ASSESS WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE.
I KNOW WE HAVE A HVAC CERTIFIED EMPLOYEE AT THE JAIL.
WE HAVE FIVE PEOPLE I THINK IN, IN MAINTENANCE OUT THERE.
POSSIBLY WE COULD UTILIZE THEM FOR, YOU KNOW, MAINTENANCE IN OTHER PLACES AND, AND AS IT IS NOW, WHO'S, WHO'S TO SAY THAT? NOT THAT WE DON'T HAVE TIME TO DO IT.
NO, WE DON'T HAVE TIME TO DO IT OR NO, WE DON'T WANT TO DO IT.
YOU KNOW, IF WE, IF WE HAD SOMEONE IN CHARGE, THEY COULD ASSESS ALL THIS AND EVALUATE IT AND SAY, YEAH, WE, WE HAVE FIVE MAINTENANCE PEOPLE HERE.
WE'VE GOT PAUL AND BOBBY AND UH, YOU KNOW, THE COURTHOUSE PEOPLE.
SO I JUST THINK IT'D BE A LOT MORE EFFICIENT IF WE HAD SOMEONE IN CHARGE, SOMEONE WE COULD SEND OUR REQUEST TO WHEN OUR AIR CONDITIONERS GO OUT OR OUR DOORS ARE BROKEN IN OR NEED FIXING OR OUR PRECINCT UH, COURTROOMS NEED REMODELING OR WHATEVER, WHATEVER THE NEED IS.
I THINK WE COULD BE A LOT MORE EFFICIENT TO HAVE ONE PERSON IN CHARGE THAT HAS TIME TO GO GET THE PERMITS, HAS TIME TO OVERSEE THE CONSTRUCTION, HAS TIME TO LOOK AT THE PLAN TO MAKE SURE UH, AREA OF REFUGE IS NOT LEFT OFF OF A SET OF BLUEPRINTS.
TENS OF TENS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS TO ADD.
THAT WASN'T, AS I SAID, I THINK IF A PERSON WOULD PAY FOR A SALE MANY TIMES OVER
BUT I THINK THE, THE OTHER ISSUE THAT THIS WOULD REALLY HELP US WITH IS WE GOT A LOT OF BUILDINGS WE NEED, WE REPAINTED, WE NEED DRESSING UP IN A LOT OF OUR BUILDINGS.
WE LOT ISSUES GOING ON, A LOT OF REPAIRS GOING ON.
THIS MAN WILL BE BIG YEAR LONG EVERY YEAR.
HE'S NOT GONNA BE SITTING AROUND.
IS HE GONNA BE THE ONE MAKING THE DECISION TO PAINT THE BUILDINGS, DO THE RING REMODEL AND ALL THAT STUFF.
HE'LL SEE WHERE THE BUSINESS DOES HE GO AROUND AND LOOK AROUND AND YEAH, BUT I THINK HE WOULD LOOK AT PEOPLE'S REQUEST.
HE SAYS HIS ANNEX IT COMES TO, TO THE JUDGE OR THE COURT OR WHATEVER AND SAYS THE ANNEX NEEDS TO PAINT.
DID HE BRING IT TO COURT OR WHAT? I MEAN I THINK THERE SHOULD BE A POSSIBLY A DOLLAR IN IT I REPAIR OR REMODEL.
THAT SHOULD COME TO COMMISSIONER'S COURT.
WELL IF WE'RE MY OPINION, YOU CAN LOOK AT THE BUDGET FROM REPAIRS
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FOR COUNTY PROPERTY WE SPEND EVERY YEAR.THAT IS THE, THAT WOULD BE THE BUDGET.
AND SO WHAT TYPICALLY HAPPENS IN THE REAL WORLD IS THIS GUY SEES HIS BUDGET AND HE SAYS, YOU KNOW, I'VE GOT 200,000 BUCKS AND HE GIVES HIS TOP LIST, TOP FIVE, TOP 10 THINGS NEED TO BE PREPARED AND THAT'S WHAT HE DOES.
BUT RUN HERE, WE JUST CHASE OUR TAIL NONSTOP.
WHO SPRING ALLOWED EXAMPLE OF THIS COURTHOUSE.
YOU COULDN'T PUT ANOTHER ROOFTOP ON THAT BUILDING IF YOU HAD TO.
'CAUSE SOMEONE WILL SAY IT'S TOO HOT MY OFFICE AND THEN ALL NEXT THING YOU KNOW, PUT ANOTHER UNIT IN THERE OR MAYBE FACILITY GUYS WILL SAY NO, IT'S 76 DEGREES IN HERE.
I THINK, I THINK WE DON'T HAVE A EXPERT DOING ALL THIS BESIDES IT'S TIME CONSUMING TO MANAGE AS MANY BUILDINGS AND MAINTAINED AS MANY BUILDINGS AS WE HAVE TO BE DONE PROPERLY AND EFFICIENTLY.
I THINK ONE PERSON IN CHARGE, I THINK YOU PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE SET UP SOME KIND OF SCOPE OF DUTIES AND THAT WAY THE COURT COULD, YOU KNOW, GO THAT WAY.
GOOD AS THEY PUT SOMEBODY IN CHARGE.
WE, JACK IS VAN OR HENDERSON COUNTY OR OR ANY OF THE SURROUNDING COUNTIES THAT ARE SIMILAR TO US.
DO THEY HAVE HENDERSON COUNTY HAS A, UH, HENDERSON COUNTY AND UH, HUNT COUNTY HAVE THEIR DESCRIPTION OF DUTIES AND CHARGE OF WHAT THEY DO.
PUT IT ON HERE TO DISCUSS BECAUSE I THINK IT NEEDS TO BE OPENED UP AND LOOKED AT.
ANY OTHER, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THAT BEFORE WE MOVE TO THE NEXT ITEM? WE DON'T HAVE IT ON AS AN ACTION ITEM.
I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT WE'RE TALKING BE CLEAR ABOUT THAT.
THE MASON'S BUILDING, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT LEAVING THE MASONS WHERE THEY'RE AT.
I'M TALKING ABOUT LEAVING THE MASONS WHERE THEY'RE AT AND UTILIZING PART OF THE BUILDING THAT WE UTILIZED BEFORE.
AND THAT'S, I I WENT BY AND CHECKED IT BEFORE LUNCH JUST TO SEE WHAT, SO WE DO HAVE ROOM IN THERE THAT WE, WE PROBABLY NEED TO MAP OUT SIZE WISE AND SEE WHAT WE COULD USE OVER THERE FOR.
ANOTHER PROBLEM WE HAVE IS, UH, BOATING EQUIPMENT.
IT'S IN A, A BAD SPOT THAT'S NOT CLIMATE CONTROLLED.
SOME OF IT'S OVER JUST OLD MASON BUILDING IN.
NOT A LOT BUT THERE'S SOME, SOME STUFF OVER THERE.
IF, IF WE DID RETAIN THE, THE USE OF THE SOUTH CAMPUS, MAYBE WE COULD PUT THE BOATING EQUIPMENT IN SOME PORTION OF IT.
YOU KNOW, THERE'D BE HEAT AND COOL AND CLIMATE CONTROL.
WE HAVE I THINK SEVEN TO $800,000 WITH BOAT EQUIPMENT AND IF THAT STUFF IS DAMAGED BY THE CLIMATE, IT'S GOING TO COST US A LOT MORE THAN, YOU KNOW, 30 SOMETHING THOUSAND A YEAR FOR UTILITIES AS WELL AS I THINK EVERYTHING WE HAVE TO LOOK AT.
BUT THOSE MACHINES NOT GONNA REQUIRE THE COMFORT LEVEL THAT PEOPLE ARE GONNA HAVE TO HAVE.
AND WE'VE PROBABLY KEEP IT 85 DEGREES ALL YEAR LONG.
BUT YOU NEED TO BE HUMIDITY CONTROL BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT KILLS ELECTRONICS.
GEORGE, ANY OTHER ITEMS ON ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ITEM NUMBER SIX.
ITEM NUMBER SEVEN IS TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER EXPENDITURES EXCEEDING $25,000 TO ROLL PRECINCT I'D TO MOVE OUT.
AND ITEM NUMBER EIGHT IS TO DISCUSS, CONSIDER PURCHASING A RECYCLED ASPHALT PRODUCT FROM TRUCKING DELIVERED TO TAR PRECINCT AREA FOUR 29TH FOR BRIDGE.
UH, HAVE IT ON ON THE AGENDA ITEM I THINK FOUND SOME MATERIAL THAT WE CAN PURCHASE.
UH, ALTHOUGH WE HAVE A CONTRACT, THIS IS ABOUT THE PRICE.
UH, I TALKED TO MR ABOUT BUYING UP TO DOLLARS MUCH BID OUT.
I DON'T THINK WE HAVE TIME TO BID OUT, BUT, UH, WELL IT IS KIND OF TIME SENSITIVE.
APPARENTLY THIS IS COME OFF OF A HIGHWAY JOB.
UH, MR. DENALI TRUCKING HAS, UH, ACQUIRED THIS MATERIAL AND THEY HAVE ACCESS TO MATERIAL TO MOVE IT TO THE COMPANY THAT THEY WORK WITH.
UH, WE CAN ACTUALLY GET IT DELIVERED FOR 23 TO 24 TON LOAD, WHICH EQUATES TO ABOUT 18 CUBIC YARDS.
OUR CURRENT VENDOR, THE LOW VENDOR IS, IS SOUTHWEST CRUSHING AND THEY, THEY CONTINUALLY CUT US OFF.
UH, WE SOLD OUR, OUR NEXT BID IS, UH, BIG CITY CRUSHING, WHICH IS WELL ON THE OTHER SIDE OF DALLAS.
UH, THEIR PRICE IS SIX 50 PER TON AND WHICH EQUATES TO ALMOST THE SAME AMOUNT AS THIS MATERIAL IS DELIVERED.
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AND, AND I DON'T GUESS THERE'S ANY WAY WE CAN, UM, GO ABOVE 50,000 UNLESS WE BID IT.SO MY PREFERENCE WOULD BE, AND I TALKED TO TOM AND, AND I GOT A QUOTE ON THEM DELIVERING SOME OF THE PRECINCT COURT BECAUSE HE SEEMED INTERESTED IN IT.
UM, IF, IF HE IS, I SUGGEST THAT WE FIGURE OUT A, A WAY TO SPLIT, YOU KNOW, THE DOLLAR AMOUNT TO, TO KEEP IT UNDER THAT 50,000 IF HE WANTS IT.
OR HE COULD COME UP HERE TO PRECINCT FREE AND, AND SAVE $9 BY HAULING IT HIMSELF AND THEN POSSIBLY JACK IS IT POSSIBLE WE COULD BID, PUT OUT BIDS FOR DELIVER PRICE? I MEAN WE ALREADY HAVE THAT FROM BIG CITY, YOU KNOW, IN THE, IN THE ORIGINAL BILL AND THEIR PRICE DELIVERED IS A WHOLE LOT MORE THAN THIS PRICE BEFORE THAT.
THERE FOR, FOR MORE FOR THE REMAINDER OF IT, THERE'S 30,000 YARDS THAT'S AVAILABLE WHICH EQUATES TO ABOUT $266,000 WORTH.
SO IT'S CONSIDERABLY MORE THAN WHAT UH, YOU KNOW HOW MANY WE CAN BUY.
HOW LONG? BEEN CLOSE TO 2 MILLION? NO, IN THE HALL.
$30,000 DELIVERED BY, THERE'S 300,000, 30,000 WAS A FIGURE DOLLARS.
OH 3 25 5 IT'LL COVER HALF AN ACRE.
HAVE YOU TALKED TO THIS COMPANY? YEAH, THREE, 300,000.
160 TIMES LIKE 2 MILLION, 1.9 MILLION WORTH OF TRUCK FIGURED I WAS GIVEN WAS 30,000 THAT WAS AVAILABLE THEN TO POSSIBLY DELIVER, WHICH COMES TO ABOUT 266,000.
I WOULD TAKE THE MAJORITY OF THAT IF TOM OR THE OTHER, THE OTHER COMMISSION WORK, IT'S JUST FOR TRUCKING 'CAUSE THEY GET THE MATERIAL FOR FREE AND THEY'RE STARTING TO PUT THE TRUCKING ON IT.
COULD WE NOT WHAT THE BID ON TRUCKING WE COULD AND DESIGNATE INSPECTS, DESIGNATE THAT THEY HAVE HAULED FROM THIS LOCATION OR WHATEVER TO A 4 29 LOCATION OR WHATEVER THIS CAT HERE IS PROBABLY HAVE THAT'S WHAT I WAS TO SAY.
I DON'T KNOW THAT ANOTHER TRUCKING COMPANY WOULD HAVE ACCESS.
YOU GOT THE SPEC, HE'D BE THE ONLY ONE THAT'D BE ABLE TO DO IT, BUT HE'S NOT, IF HE'S GOT SOMEBODY COME HOME, BUY ALL OF IT, NOT DISAPPEAR THIS, IT COULD BE GONE WITH THE NEXT PHONE CALL.
BUT IF WE, IF WE SPEAK FOR, FOR THIS AMOUNT, UM, YOU KNOW, THEY WILL SAVE US THIS AMOUNT.
WELL I'VE GOT SOME MANY PROJECTS GOING AT THIS POINT.
I CAN'T EVEN PICK UP HAVE IT DELIVERED HALF OF THE 48,000 WORTH KENNETH.
YOU THAT BE ALRIGHT JACK THAT GO BY ALL THE PROCEDURES AS SO I 24 WORTH JOHN.
YOU SEE A PROBLEM WITH THAT? WE PUT A BID OUT FOR RAW MATERIAL, UH, OF CONTRACT, BUT I DON'T THINK WE'RE OFF BID WHERE WE'RE JUST TO BUY FROM THOSE PEOPLE.
THIS IS KIND OF DIFFERENT ANIMAL.
IT'S SOMETHING CAME UP THAT'S AVAILABLE ABOUT THE PRICE.
I SEE A WITH COUNTY BUYING AS LONG, DO YOU AGREE WE'RE STATE UNDER 50.
ARE YOU SAYING IT'S A DIFFERENT MATERIAL THAN WHAT WAS BID OUT? WE PUT OUT A BID FOR ROAD MATERIAL.
AND I UNDERSTAND THESE PEOPLE ARE, ARE GRINDING UP A ROAD AND THAT MATERIALS GONNA BE AVAILABLE AND SO IT'S ABOUT HALF PRICE OF, OF UH, WHAT THE CURRENT PLAN THEY WILL DELIVER FOR ABOUT THE SAME PRICE WE HAVE TO DRIVE TO THE OTHER SIDE OF DALLAS TO PICK IT UP FOR YOU.
MY CONCERN WAS HOW, HOW YOU FELT WITH IT IF IT WAS UNDERMINE THE BED IF YOU DON'T FEEL LIKE IT'S UNDERMINE THE BED.
I I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANYTHING US FROM, FROM UH, TAKE ADVANTAGE OF HALF, BUT GET YOUR OPINION ON THAT.
UH, WE PUT OUT, WE PUT OUT A ESTIMATE OF OUR QUANTITY IN A YEAR'S TIME WE'RE GONNA BUY, BUT I THINK WHEN IT'S HALF PRICE, I DIDN'T ALREADY OBJECT AS LONG AS WE, THE QUESTION IS CAN WE GO ON 50 IF WE'RE ABLE TO ACQUIRE SOMETHING AT, AT A TIME.
SO SO HOW MUCH WOULD IT BE? THERE'S A POSSIBILITY OF OF 266,000 WORTH IF SOMEBODY DOESN'T BEAT US TO IT.
WELL THERE'S NO, THERE'S NO AVENUE THAT I KNOW OF THAT WILL LET US ALLOW, ALLOW US TO BUY.
THE ONLY AVENUE IS, UH, EMERGENCY, WHICH IS LIFE AND HEALTH CITIZEN.
SO THAT'S THE ONLY AVENUE THAT WE LET US DO THAT.
SO HOW MUCH WOULD WE BUY? ARE YOU SAYING WE'D BUY 266? I WOULD BUY PROBABLY 200,000.
BUT YOU'RE SAYING WE NEED TO BUY 49 9 9 9 UNLESS WE PUT OUT A BID THAT'S ABOUT A
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MINIMUM ABOUT A THREE WEEK PROCESS.WE COULD DO IT IF THE MATERIAL IS STILL THERE, YOU KNOW.
WELL, AND SINCE WE'RE COMING UP ON THE END OF A FISCAL YEAR, COULD WE DO ONE THIS FISCAL YEAR AND ONE OCTOBER 1ST? IT'S A TIME THING.
NO GUYS GOTTA GET THE STUFF OFF THE SIDE.
IT PROBABLY WOULDN'T BE AVAILABLE IF WE WERE GONNA DO THAT, WE SHOULD PUT A BID OUT IN THE ALL.
BUT IF WE WENT 50,000 NOW AND THEN ADVERTISE AND IT'S STILL THERE EVERY THREE WEEKS, GO AHEAD AND BUY WHATEVER WE DECIDED TO BUY THAT WOULD BE FEASIBLE.
IT'D BE POSSIBLE TO BE PUT A RFP OUT FOR, FOR UH, RAT MATERIAL DELIVERED TO VARIOUS PRECINCTS AND AND LET THEM BID ON IT ALONG WITH WELL THAT IS, WE ALREADY GOT A BID THOUGH.
DON'T YEAH, WE DO, BUT SOUTHWEST COURSE SOUTHWEST, THEY DON'T SELL ANYTHING AND THAT JUNK COMES FROM THAT OTHER COMPANY UP THERE.
NOW IF YOU'RE AWARE OF UNDER 2 62 WHEN IT COMES TO ROAD MATERIAL, THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF FLEXIBILITY THERE.
YOU, YOU WATER A BID BASED ON THE LOCATION OF THE PRECINCT LOCATION OF THE, OF THE PLANT.
SO YOU GOT A LOT OF VARIABLES THERE.
SO IT'S, IT'S A LOT MORE FLEXIBLE.
BUT UH, I GUESS IN THEORY YOU PUT OUT BUY UP TO UP TO $50,000 AND THEN PUT A BID OUT.
I DON'T THINK OFFER 50,000 I DON'T FEEL COMFORTABLE BECAUSE UH, I FEEL LIKE AT THAT POINT IT HAD TO HAVE BEEN OUT.
IS IS THERE ANY OTHER BASIS? ARE THEY LIKE GONNA BUY THAT BOARD OR SOMETHING THAT NO, THIS, THIS, THIS IS MATERIAL FROM A ROAD JOB.
YEAH, IT'S ALREADY STOCK ABOUT YEAH, THEY'RE NOT TAKING OFF ROAD.
IT'S ALREADY STOCK ABOUT YEAH, IT'S A MATTER OF THE COMPANY NEEDS TO MOVE IT AND THE FIRST ONE WITH THE MONEY, WE'LL GET THE MATERIAL, WHOEVER IT'S, SO IN MY OPINION WE, WE CAN ONLY BUY UP TO 49 SOMETHING.
NOW DO YOU HAVE AN ISSUE WHERE YOU PUT OUT A BID, UH, GIVEN THE ESTIMATE OF QUANTITY AND YOU ORDERED THE CONTRACT? I DON'T KNOW THAT WE'RE LOGGED INTO TO THAT TO THE ONE THAT'S OUTSTANDING NOW, RIGHT? WELL HAVE WE, HAVE WE BOUGHT ANYTHING ON THAT? YES SIR.
BUT WE HAVEN'T BOUGHT THE FULL AMOUNT OF THE ESTIMATED QUANTITY.
AND I DON'T THINK THIS AMOUNT HERE BUDGET COMPARED WHAT YOU WANT HAVE A YEAR TIME, THE 30 IF, IF YOU BOUGHT 50 WORTH MATERIAL.
OH NO, I I STILL, IF IT'S AVAILABLE, YEAH, LIKE I SAID, ONE VENDOR CUT US OFF AND THE OTHER VENDOR, THE MATERIAL VARIES, BUT IT'S THIS, THIS IS PROBABLY, UH, SO SO IN YOUR OPINION IT'S NOT ALL INTERCHANGEABLE, SIR.
IT'S, YOU'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT TALKING ABOUT SAND.
YEAH, THIS PRODUCT IS COMPARABLE TO THE PRODUCT THAT THE VENDOR HAS THAT THAT CUT US OFF.
I GUESS IS IT COMPARABLE TO THE PRODUCT OF THE VENDOR THAT HAS THE UH, TO THE OTHER VENDOR YOU MEAN? YES.
THIS IS A MUCH BETTER PRODUCT THAN, BUT IT'S COMPARABLE TO ALTERNATE.
IT'S THE SAME TYPE OF PRODUCT.
THE QUALITY IS, IT'D BE IT'D BE LABELED THE SAME.
YEAH, IT WOULD BE DESCRIBED AS RECYCLED ASPHALT PRODUCT OR, BUT THE QUALITY IS PRICE.
I'M CONCERNED ABOUT GOING OVER 50 INITIALLY WITHOUT SOME BID, WITHOUT SOMETHING TO EXPLAIN WHY WE'RE NOT BUYING THAT.
I MEAN, WE'RE NOT BUYING BECAUSE IF POSSIBLE BECAUSE IT'S LESS MONEY, BUT I, I DON'T WANT TO BE ACCUSED OF CIRCUMVENTING THE PROCESS.
SO I KNOW THERE WAS SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT WHETHER ONE PRECINCT COULD SPEND 50, SPEND 50 AND SO ON.
AND THERE'LL BE A FINDING IN THE OUTSIDE AUDIT.
I CAN TELL YOU THAT'LL BE GUARANTEED.
THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH, WITH THEM BUYING THAT TOO.
I I KIND OF VIEW THAT SIMILAR TO, UH, WE'RE ON A CONTRACT FOR FUEL WITH ALL SCHOOL DISTRICTS AND YET WE DID A CONTRACT FOR FOR FUEL CAR FUEL MAN.
YOU SEE WHAT I'M SAYING? SO IT'S FUEL, IT'S A DIFFERENT AVENUE.
I THINK IT'S A ONE TIME DEAL, YOU KNOW, WHO KNOWS CONSTRUCTION BECOME AVAILABLE IN THE FUTURE, BUT I KNOW CAN, AS AN EMERGENCY, I DUNNO IF A GOOD DEAL CLASSIFIES AS AN EMERGENCY.
I LIKE TO, WE NEED IT, WE NEED BAD CITIZENS.
UH, ON SOME OF THESE COUNTY ROADS WOULD CLASSIFY IT AS AN EMERGENCY
IF YOU'RE NOT SAYING SAVING LIVES, I THINK THAT'S AN EMERGENCY
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NOW, I GUESS ONE QUESTION I DO HAVE IS I THINK WHILE YOU FOUND THE MATERIAL DELIVER PRICE, I THINK THEY PRECINCT TWO TO COME GET IT FOR FREE.SO IS THAT THAT STILL GOOD AVENUE? YOU SENT OUR TRUCKS TO PICK IT UP? I DUNNO IF THAT'S STILL AVAILABLE OR NOT.
YEAH, WE WE'D BE ON THE ROAD RIGHT NOW IF THAT WAS, I WAS UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT THIS COMPANY REMOVE, HELP THE COMPANY REMOVE THE MATERIAL FROM THE HIGHWAY, THEREFORE THEY WERE ENGAGED IN MOVING IT, YOU KNOW, HELPING THE COMPANY MOVE IT TO GET RID OF IT.
I HAVEN'T SEEN ANY CONTRACT BUT THEY APPROACHED ME TO, TO SELL IT.
AND SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE WITH THIS.
AND JOHN, WITH OUR, WITH OUR BID, WE JUST PUT OUT A BID OR ESTIMATE OF, OF UH, TONS AND THEN WE WANT A PRICE, BUT THERE'S NO SIGNED CONTRACT SAYING THAT YOU'RE THE ONLY ONE WHO GONNA BUY FROM THAT TYPE SITUATION.
SO WAS THAT NOT PART OF RP? NO, NO, JUST, JUST THE PRICE THAT WASN'T, WE DON'T SAY WE'RE ONLY GONNA BUY FROM SIGN ANY CONTRACT.
YOU'RE ONLY SO I DIDN'T SEE PROBLEM, UH, WITH THAT FINE MATERIAL SOMEWHERE ELSE.
AS LONG AS WE'RE BELOW 50,000, THE LOW BID ON PRODUCT DOES NOT ALWAYS GET THE, IT KIND DEPENDS ON VARIABLES ON MATERIAL.
DO YOU KIND OF AGREE ON THAT? I, I DO.
WHY DON'T YOU LIKE TALK AFTERWARDS ABOUT THAT? I'M, I'M GOOD WITH THE 49 9 PURCHASE.
I JUST WANNA BE SURE WE'RE CLEAR THAT YOU CAN'T BRING INVOICE THAT REACHES ANY, WE'RE CLEAR ON THAT, I PROMISE YOU.
WHAT ABOUT THE PREVIOUS INVOICES? WAS IT FROM THAT VENDOR? NOT FROM FOR RENT MATERIAL? ALL THOSE FROM THEIR CONTRACT.
I'M WORKING THAT HOW MANY? 50,000.
YEAH, THAT, THAT WOULD APPLY TO THIS BECAUSE IT'S A DIFFERENT VENDOR.
UH, YOU, WE MAY PASS IT ALONG WITH THE APPROVAL OF, OF COUNSEL.
I DIDN'T BOUGHT ANY RED ALL YEAR GOT THIS YEAR.
I LEMME HEAVY IT EVERY TIME I CALL UP.
I THINK MIGHT GOT, I DON'T EITHER.
I'M PRETTY CERTAIN Y'ALL JUST DON'T HAVE THE RIGHT CONNECTIONS.
YEAH, JUDGE, I, I MAKE RECOMMENDATION THAT WE PROVIDE THIS PRODUCT BASED ON APPROVAL.
BUT, BUT THE, DID THE INITIAL PURCHASE FEE 49 9 LESS, I'VE GOT 48,000 ON THIS PROPOSAL OF THE COMPANY FOR 300 VOTES.
BUT THAT WILL CHANGE IF, IF HALF 24,000 GOES TO PRECINCT FOUR AT A HIGHER DELIVERY RATE.
WELL GIVE US IN CASE THEY HAVE A TRUCK ON THE WAY OR SOMETHING.
I'LL TRY TO SHUT 'EM OFF AT 48,000.
SO IF THEY'RE QUITE CLEAR AS THE MUD
BELIEVE 49,000 WORTH OF RECYCLED MAKES THAT MOTION.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? I'D LIKE TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU GET CLEARANCE FROM THE CITY OF TERRELL TO DELIVER THIS PRECINCT THREE OUT THERE BECAUSE THAT IS, UM, THAT'S NOT ZONED FOR UH, THAT TYPE OF WORK.
SO I HATE TO SEE YOU DUMP 30,000 YARDS OF MATERIAL OVER THERE IN THE CITY OF TERRELL.
SAY THIS IS ON, UH, HOUSING OR WHATEVER.
WE'VE ALREADY GOT OUR, WE'VE GOT PILE.
IT'S ALREADY, IT IS ZONED RESIDENTIAL.
THEY MAY SAY YOU HAVE, I THOUGHT THEY WERE GONNA CHANGE.
NO THIS GONNA BE UP ON 4 29 UNLESS, NO WE CHANGED IT TO COMMERCIAL.
DID WE? YEAH, I KNOW THEY RETURNED GOING.
NO, UH, THIS IS OUR PROPERTY OUT.
YEAH, IT'S COMMERCIAL PROPERTY.
IT WAS DISCUSSED WITHIN THE LAST YEAR OR SO.
BUT I DIDN'T KNOW WHETHER IT THEY I'LL CHECK OVER JUST TO MAKE SURE.
WELL NO, IF IT'S ON, IF IT'S OWNED PROPERTY, IT'S NOT PROBLEM.
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ALRIGHT, I'VE GOT A MOTION IN A SECOND.ALRIGHT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH JACK.
AND ON ITEM NUMBER EIGHT, DO WE NEED TO UH, UH, OR ITEM NUMBER SEVEN FAVOR THAT TABLE THAT NOW SEVEN IS HIS, HIS, UH, MAKING US AWARE THAT WE RIGHT, WE TALK ABOUT ALLOWING US TO 25.
ALRIGHT, WE JUST APPROVED DATE, RIGHT? SO WE NEED NOW TO APPROVE SEVEN I THAT WE APPROVED EXPENDITURE OF 25,000.
ANY SECONDS OF DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR TO SAY AYE.
ITEM NUMBER NINE IS TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER A DESIGNATING FUNDS RECEIVED FROM THE UNCLA CAPITAL CREDITS FUND AS PROVIDED FOR BY SECTION THREE, 1.04.
THIS WAS A SURPRISE TO SAY THE LEAST.
UH, THESE ARE THE CAPITAL CREDITS THAT COME INTO, UH, THE, UH, VARIOUS ELECTRIC COOPERATION.
I THINK PRIMARILY WE HAVE TWO THAT COME INTO THE COUNTY.
UH, ONE OF 'EM IS AVENUE OF COURSE, HERE IN TON.
AND THE OTHER ONE IS FARM ELECTRIC COOPERATIVE OUT OF GREENVILLE THAT COMES INTO NORTHERN PART COUNTY.
UH, LAST YEAR, IF I REMEMBER CORRECT, WE GOT A GRAND TOTAL OF 50 AND THIS YEAR WE GOT A GRAND TOTAL MADE A COPY OF CHECK, UH, $35,965 77 CENTS.
SO I'M GLAD WE APPLIED FOR FUNDING.
UH, IT WOULD'VE GONE TO THE STATE HAD WE NOT REQUESTED IT.
AND UH, JOHN LOOKED THIS OVER AND I WAS TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT ALL WE COULD USE FOR.
AND UH, THERE IS A TWO PAGE, UH, COPY OF THE LAW HERE AND ONE OF THE ONES, UH, I MEAN THERE ARE SEVERAL DIFFERENT THINGS YOU CAN USE IT FOR.
I KNOW YOU'VE HAD A CHANCE TO LOOK THIS OVER OR NOT.
UH, BUT YOU CAN USE IT FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
YOU CAN DO, UH, TO STIMULATE, UH, BUSINESS, UH, WOMEN OWNED BUSINESSES, MINORITY BUSINESSES, UH, A NUMBER OF THINGS YOU CAN DO WITH THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PART OF IT.
I THINK YOU MAY EVEN, UH, CONTRACT WITH ANOTHER ENTITY FOR THE ADMINISTRATION OF THE PROGRAM, WHICH I DOUBT IT WOULD WANT.
ANOTHER AREA IS PROMOTION OF THE ARTS, BUT THE ONE THAT THERE'S NO QUESTION ABOUT THAT WE CAN DO SOMETHING WITH IS THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT OF COUNTY MAY SUPPORT A CHILDREN'S ADVOCACY CENTER THAT PROVIDE SERVICES TO ABUSED CHILDREN.
WHAT I WOULD, UH, TALK TO SOME OTHER JUDGES, PARTICULARLY I TALKED TO JUDGE COACHES DOWN IN MANETTE COUNTY AND THEY RECEIVED ABOUT $30,000 WORTH WHAT THEY DID, UH, WHICH KIND OF PUT THIS OUT IN MY HEAD.
THEY WENT AHEAD AND DESIGNATED $10,000 OF THEIR FUNDS THROUGH THE CHILDREN'S ADVOCACY CENTER AND JUST DEPOSITED THE REST IN A, IN AN ACCOUNT.
NOT TO BE, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT PART OF THE GENERAL FUND.
IT HAS TO HAVE TO BE DESIGNATED FOR SOMETHING AT SOME POINT IN TIME.
WHETHER THIS IS JUST A ONE TIME FLU THAT WE GOT THIS MUCH MONEY OR NOT, I DON'T KNOW.
BUT WE WOULD HOLD ON TO THE REMAINING $25,000 AT SUCH TIME THAT WE COULD HAVE A PROJECT WE MIGHT WANNA GO FORWARD.
I'M SURE THE ADVOCACY CENTER, UH, SHERIFF, YOU'RE ON THAT BOARD.
I'M SURE THEY COULD ALWAYS USE FUNDING.
SO WE PUT THAT, UH, 25,000 IN COMMISSIONER'S COURT IN OUR FUND COMMISSIONER COURT.
THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT FUND THAT, YOU KNOW, WE GOT.
I DON'T THAT WAY IT'D BE HELD.
WE COULD HOLD IT AND THEN IF SOMETHING CAME UP, IT'LL HAVE, WELL IT'LL HAVE TO BE USED FOR ONE OF THESE PURPOSES.
WELL WE CAN HAVE JOANIE TO OPEN A SEPARATE, JUST PUT THERE, YOU KNOW, COUNTY COURT'S DISCRETION.
I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU GUYS MAY HAVE SOMETHING ELSE YOU WANT USE IT FOR, BUT IT JUST, I'LL MOVE THAT WE ACCEPT THE MONEY THAT $10,000 IN WITH THE REMAINING AMOUNT IN A SEPARATE ACCOUNT BE TERMIN LATER FOR THAT ARE OUTLINED IN THIS LAW.
CAN WE HELP THE HISTORICAL SOCIETY AT ALL? I WELL, JOHN, YOU DID A LITTLE STUDY ON DID YOU? OH, I'M, I'M, I DON'T THINK SO.
YEAH, I I DON'T REMEMBER SEEING THAT IN HERE, BUT I DON'T EITHER.
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I DON'T EITHER.I, THERE'S SOME THINGS THAT THE USE IS VERY CLEARLY.
CHILDREN'S ADVOCACY AND SOME OF THE OTHER BUSINESS OPPORTUNITIES.
OBVIOUSLY THE ADVOCACY CENTER'S MORE TARGETED AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
SO, BUT THERE'S UM, WE, IF YOU CAN CHECK.
OKAY, UNDER THAT SECTION 3 81 0.004, UM, CHARITABLE OR NON-PROFIT ORGANIZATION, FOUNDATION BOARD COUNCIL OR COMMISSION WITH THE, FOR FARM HERITAGE SOCIETY CLASS CLASSIFIED UNDER ONE HONOR SECTION ONE.
IT WOULD BE, BUT THAT QUALIFY SECTION SUBSECTION.
I'LL TELL YOU THERE'S, YEAH, I ON COMMISSIONER CAN I APPROACH, I DON'T HAVE, THIS IS WHAT I WAS REFERRING TO HERE.
YEAH, THAT'S ANOTHER ANSWER TO, I'D HAVE TO READ IT AND SEE IF THAT'S, IF THAT FALLS WITHIN THE DESCRIPTION OF THAT.
BECAUSE I, I'VE READ SEVEN AND HE SAYS COUNTY, I THINK THAT POOR FARM WOULD BE A, YOU KNOW, PROMOTION OF THE COUNTY SINCE WE'RE ONLY ONE.
I I WOULD SAY THE ARGUMENT, I I WOULD SAY THE POOR FARM WOULD FIT I FEEL EVERY TIME SAYING THAT THE HISTORICAL SOCIETY WOULD FIT BECAUSE IT SAYS DESIGN TO ATTRACT CONVENTIONS, VISITORS, AND BUSINESSES.
I DON'T THINK WE GET VISITORS BECAUSE WE CAN DO NO OFFENSE TO THAT RIGHT SUGGESTION.
YOU USE 10, WE DETERMINE THIS.
I'M SURE THE WORKS WILL GET OUT.
SO WE HAVE ALL KIND OF APPLICATIONS.
WE'LL WE HAVE A MOTION FROM DISCUSS.
ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE ALL GENTLEMEN, LET'S, UH, TAKE A BREAK AND UH, WE'LL COME BACK.
UH, MR. SHANE HAS ASKED THAT THE TABLE, UH, ITEM NINE, 10 AND UH, 11 AND SO TAKE ABOUT 10 MINUTE BREAK, WE CAN COME BACK, SIR, WE NOT HAVING INTEREST.
AND UH, I PUT ON HERE TO UH, DISCUSS THE BUDGET, UH, FROM WHERE WE WERE THE LAST TIME WE MET.
AND I EXPECT GUYS WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO MEET AT LEAST TWICE AND MAYBE BEFORE WE, UH, POST THE BUDGET.
NOW I WANNA MAKE SURE EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS THAT WE NEED TO POST A TENANT BUDGET BY, UH, YOU JULY THE 31ST AND THEN WE CAN'T ACT ON THE BUDGET UNTIL IT SITS OUT THERE FOR 30 DAYS AND THAT'S WHEN WE COME BACK, WE FIND SOMETHING OR FIND SOMETHING THAT WE CHANGE.
AND SO WE DO THAT BY THE END OF JULY.
WE CAN GO AHEAD AND, UH, YOU KNOW, THE BUDGET SEPTEMBER LAST YEAR DURING EPTEMBER.
UH, THE OTHER PART THAT WE COULDN'T REALLY NAIL DOWN, OF COURSE WAS THE HEALTH INSURANCE.
AND WE JUST GOT THAT INFORMATION TODAY.
SO, UH, I THINK THEY'LL SEND US SOME OR SHE SAID SHE WOULD SEND US SOME OTHER ALTERNATIVES THAT WE
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CAN LOOK AT.UH, BUT IF WE STICK WITH THE CURRENT PLAN, THAT'S GONNA BE PRETTY HARD.
THAT HAVE, THAT'S A LOT OF MONEY TRYING TO COME UP WITH.
SO WE NEED TO LOOK AT ONE OF THE ALTERNATE PLANS, OTHER THINGS, SEE WHAT WE CAN DO.
THE OTHER THING THAT YOU PROBABLY NOTICED IS I HAD KAREN PLACE $1,200 PER EMPLOYEE, FULLTIME EMPLOYEE INCLUDING ELECTED OFFICIALS.
UH, A $1,200 SUPPLEMENT, OR NOT A SUPPLEMENT, BUT A PAY INCREASE.
IT WOULDN'T BE LIKELY GIVEN THEM THE LAST TWO YEARS WHERE THEY WERE JUST ONE TIME THIS WOULD BE A PERMANENT PAY INCREASE THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'LL GO BACK AND CHANGE AND, UH, I THINK WE WOULD BE ABLE TO DO THAT.
UH, I DON'T KNOW THAT WE CAN DO IT IN THE TOTAL HEALTH INSURANCE, THE STAYING OF THE SAME CLAIM THAT WE HAD THIS TIME.
I THINK WE'LL HAVE TO, SO, SO WE'RE NOT GONNA GIVE ANYBODY ANY KIND OF BUMP.
ALL, EVERY EMPLOYEE JUST GONNA GET 1200, RIGHT? IT DOESN'T MATTER.
AND I, WE CAN DO A PERCENTAGE, BUT IT, THE $1,200 FEE TENDS TO HELP THE LOWER PAID EMPLOYEES HELPS THE ONES THAT NEED IT NEED IT THE MOST AND JUST ALL THE WAY UP.
AND JUST SEEMS LIKE, TO ME THAT'S, I THINK THAT'S A GOOD IDEA.
ALL THE QUESTION IS, EVERYBODY IN THE COUNTY GETS 1200 AND NOBODY SEEN ANYTHING.
THE QUESTION IS, YOU KNOW, ARE WE GONNA BE ABLE TO MAINTAIN OUR INSURANCE EVEN AT THAT LEVEL WITHOUT GOING, CAN PROBABLY WORK ON THAT.
WELL THAT AND UH, WE SHOULD GET OUR FINAL, UH, VALUES FROM THE APPRAISAL DISTRICT.
AND THAT'S WHAT I, JULY AND I THINK WE'RE MOVING EARLIER.
I THINK WE HAVE TO HAVE THE BUDGET BY JULY 31ST, THAT'S GONNA BE CUT.
AND, AND THE JULY 31ST DAY IS NOT, I MEAN ALL WE HAVE TO DO IS HAVE A PROPOSED BUDGET.
IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE THE FINAL BUDGET.
AND THEN IT, IN THE NEXT 30 DAYS, WE'LL GO BACK AND LOOK AT THE BUDGET, MAKE SURE WE DIDN'T FORGET SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, MADE UP A MISCALCULATION OR SOMETHING.
AND THEN WE CAN CHANGE THAT ON THE DAY WE ACTUALLY DO VOTE TO DO, TO DO SOMETHING.
SO I, IF I UNDERSTAND YOU, SHE JUST USED LAST YEAR'S NUMBERS AND JUST DID THE 12 INCREASE.
WELL THE $1,200 INCREASE IS BASED ON WHAT PEOPLE WERE MAKING THIS YEAR.
UH, I DID CHANGE THE FOUR JP DEPUTIES, THE CHIEF ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANT.
I CHANGED THEM ALL TO ACTUALLY ON THE INCREASING FOUR LIKE Y'ALL REQUESTED DURING THE BUDGET DISCUSSION.
UH, IT'S MY FOURTH LITTLE PARAGRAPH, FOURTH NOTE.
UH, ALL FOUR JP ADMINISTRATIVE POSITIONS WERE CHANGED TO REFLECT AS REQUESTED.
'CAUSE IF YOU REMEMBER WHEN JUDGE SMITH CAME AND PROPOSED HE WANTED TO USE 6,000 THAT HE HAD IN EXTRA HELP AND GIVE IT TO HIS ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANT.
AND HE SAID THE SENIORITY SHOULD COME INTO PLAY BECAUSE THE ONE IN PRECINCT FOUR BE MAKING LESS THAN SHE IN YOUR AWA, Y'ALL SAID MOVE ALL THOSE TO THE SAME LEVEL.
AND THAT'S WHAT I DID IN ALL FOUR PRECINCTS.
THAT'S ABOUT THE ONLY BIG DIFFERENCE.
THE OTHER THING WE DID PUT IN THERE, UH, THE CAN PUT IN THERE, WE HAD A LOT OF CARS AND VEHICLES THAT WERE REQUESTED.
UH, WE, EVERYTHING'S BEEN PUT IN THERE FOR A TOTAL OF $576,000.
BUT THE MONEY TO PAY FOR THAT WOULD BE A LOAN.
IT WOULD NOT BE A, UH, YOU KNOW, IT WOULD NOT BE A PART OF THE BUDGET.
IT WOULD BE PART OF THE BUDGET, BUT IT WOULD BE OFFSET BY A LOAN.
AND I DOUBT SERIOUSLY, IF WE'RE GONNA BUY, YOU KNOW, 576,000 WORTH OF VEHICLES, I THINK WE'LL HAVE TO COME BACK THE CARS FOR THE SHERIFF DEPARTMENT.
THEY'RE, IT'D BE MORE THAN THAT ACTUALLY.
IT WAS MORE THAN THAT FOR THE, SO M1 FOR EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT.
Y'ALL REMEMBER YOU WENT OUT AND LOOKED AT HIS VEHICLE? I THINK THERE WAS STILL FOUR CONSTABLES.
YEAH, WELL FOUR CONSTABLE CARS.
THAT WAS, IF THEY GOT NEW EMPLOYEES, IF THEY GOT, I THINK IT'S GOING, I SEE WE CAN THIS THING NEXT MONDAY, BY WAY IT'LL HELP BUNCH BUDGET.
YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I WAS THINKING.
MY QUESTION, YOU KNOW, WE'VE DONE A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF WORK ON THIS.
IF WE GO AND BORROW 576,000 TO PURCHASE VEHICLE, WHICH WE GOT, WE NEED THE VEHICLES.
I AGREE THAT WE NEED THE VEHICLES.
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WHAT DOES THAT, WHAT IS THAT GOING TO DO TO OUR OUTSIDE AUDIT AND OURAND I'M NOT SUGGESTING I, I MEAN THERE'S ALREADY BEEN A LOT OF MACHINERY PURCHASE, A LOT OF, A LOT OF TURNOVER.
THIS TURNOVER THAT I JUST WONDER WHERE THAT'S GOING TO LEAVE, UH, THE COUNTY BUDGET WISE AS FAR AS THESE OUTSIDE AUDITS, WHICH ARE REALLY IMPORTANT.
THAT ARE WELL, AND I DON'T, I WOULD DOUBT IF WE'RE GONNA GO OUT AND SPEND 576,000, I THINK WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO COME BACK AND LOOK AT THE POLICY THAT WE'RE GONNA ADOPT.
AND THOSE DOWN, WE MAY NOT BE ABLE TO EVEN THAT THIS YEAR, BUT THERE'S SOME THAT DO NEED TO BE REPLACED.
WHETHER THAT'S FIVE OR A DOZEN OR THREE OR WHATEVER.
I MEAN, THAT'S SOMETHING I THINK WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO, I THINK WE IMPLEMENT THAT POLICY.
THAT'S I'M TALKING, I MEAN, NOT BE ABLE TO FUND THAT NEED TO BE REALLOCATED.
I MEAN, JUST BECAUSE YOU ESTABLISHED THE POLICY, I MEAN, YOU GOTTA HAVE THE MONEY TO FUND IT.
THAT THING YOU SAY, WELL THE VEHICLE'S GOING BE THREE YEARS OLD AND HAVE 180,000 MILES ON AND WE GOING TO FLIP THEM, YOU STILL GOT HAVE THE MONEY TO PAY THEM THE BACK END.
I THINK WE GOT VEHICLES THAT ARE NOT UTILIZED 40% OF THE WORKDAY ACCORDING TO YEAH, WE'VE GOT A BUNCH OF DUMP TRUCKS THAT SITTING DOWN.
THERE'S NOT USED 40% OF THE WORKDAY, BUT THAT'S, YOU KNOW, THEY SAID THAT'S NOT IMPORTANT.
THEY'RE ALSO, YOU'RE NOT REQUESTING ANY NEW DUMP TRUCKS, ARE YOU? NOT YET.
YOU HOLD BECKY
YOU HAVE A TAX INCREASE THIS YEAR TO PAY FOR THAT 30 MILLION ROADBLOCK.
AND I'VE GOTTA CALCULATE THOSE NUMBERS JUST RIGHT UNLESS PERCENTAGES TO MAKE SURE THAT DEBT SERVICE FUND HAS ENOUGH MONEY TO PAY OFF THAT, THAT'S GONNA DOUBLE OUR DEBT SERVICE TAX FEE.
THAT'S GONNA MAKE A LOT OF, WE WE TO GO UP TWO OR 3 CENTS.
YEAH, I THINK THAT'S THE WAY IT WAS ADVERTISED.
JUDGE, IT IS GOING, OUR TAX SERVICE RATE IS GONNA BE LARGER.
DON'T REMEMBER THE WAY I'M, THE WAY I'M LOOKING AT IT IS WE'RE GOING TO KEEP THE SAME TAX RATE, WHAT GENERAL GOT, WHAT THE OTHER TWO DEBT SERVICES GOT AND WHAT THE, UH, ROAD AND BRIDGE GOT.
THEN I'M GONNA HAVE TO TACK ON THAT AMOUNT OF TAX TO PAY THE, UH, DEBT SERVICE ON THE THIRD DEBT, UH, THIRD DEBT SERVICE FUND.
'CAUSE IT'S IN A SEPARATE FUND BEING ACCOUNTED FOR.
WE HAVE TWO DEBT SERVICES RIGHT NOW.
ONE'S FOR THE JAIL FACILITY AND ONE IS FOR THE SIB LOAN.
I MEAN NOT, NOT THE SIB WHAT IS IT? NO, NO, NO, NO.
WELL, THE SIB 63, WHAT DOES FUND 63 NAME THE SIB IS PART OF THAT.
I MEAN, YEAH, IT CUT JOHNNY'S HAVING THE TAXES NOW SPLIT WHERE IT GOES IN THOSE TWO FUNDS.
SO WE HAVE THAT HUNDRED SOMETHING THOUSAND TO PAY IN THE BEGINNING AND THEN THE REST OF IT GOES TO THE JAIL FACILITY TO PAY THAT TAX DEBT.
SO THEN I'VE GOTTA WORK ON THE OTHER ONES ACCORDING TO WHATEVER VALUES HE GIVES US.
I MEAN, WE MIGHT COME OUT LOOKING PRETTY GOOD AND MAKE THE BALANCE, THE BUDGET BALANCE, BUT THIS BUDGET IS NOT BALANCED SIMPLY FOR THE REASON I PUT IN ALL THE REQUESTS THAT EVERYBODY GAVE ME AND WHAT Y'ALL SAID YOU WANTED.
AND I HAD NO IDEA OF HOW TO CALCULATE A TAX RATE VALUE.
SO I DIDN'T HAVE ENOUGH MONEY TO COVER EVERYBODY'S WISHES.
AND THEN THE JUDGE HAD TO INCLUDE SOME STUFF IN THAT CAPITAL OUT, NOT CAPITAL OUTLAY, BUT THE ONE WHERE WE DO ALL THE MAINTENANCE SO HE COULD FIX SOME OF THESE OUTLYING SUB COURTHOUSES AND DO SOME RENOVATION AND FIX 'EM UP.
NON NON PERSONNEL, JUST SUPPLIES AND EQUIPMENT AND STUFF LIKE THAT BEFORE REPLACEMENT.
BUT UH, ANYWAY, BACK ON THE VEHICLES, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S, THAT'S IN THE BUDGET, BUT IT'S OFFSET BY THE LOAN THAT WE'VE HAD.
AND I WOULD ANTICIPATE THAT, UH, UH, THAT AGAIN, WE'RE NOT GONNA BUY THAT MANY VEHICLES WE BUY JUST WHATEVER WE NEED TO TO GET DOWN.
UH, WE DO HAVE THE $1,200 INCREASE IN THERE.
UH, WE DO NEED TO DECIDE PRETTY QUICKLY WHAT WE'RE GOING DO ON THE, UH, HEALTH INSURANCE, UH, BECAUSE THAT'S GOING TO BE FIGURED IN BEFORE SHE CAN DO HER BUDGET.
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WHAT DO YOU WANT TO DO ON THAT? AND THEN OF COURSE IT'S NOT ANYTHING FINAL, BUT, SO SHE'LL HAVE A NUMBER TO PLUG IN THAT WE CAN START GETTING CLOSER.DO YOU WANT TO PLUG IN THE ALTERNATE PLAN THAT WAS TODAY JUST SO WE DON'T HAVE A HARD NUMBER.
YOU STAY WITH THE SAME PLAN THAT WE HAVE NOW.
I THINK IT'S GONNA BE A TOSS UP.
EITHER YOU GOING, DO I THINK WE YOU GOING TO DO THE SAME PLAN AND UH, NOT GIVE AS MUCH RAISE OR YOU GONNA DO THAT'S, THAT'S AN OPTION.
ALTERNATE PLAN AND, AND, AND GIVE A RAISE OR SOME, SOME RAISE MAYBE A THOUSAND OR NOT THAT, BUT I DON'T KNOW HOW WE CAN AFFORD BOTH OF THEM.
WELL, SHE'S ONLY SEND SOME ALTERNATE PLANS.
I THINK THE UH, THE, THE DIFFERENCE ON THE UH, BETWEEN, UH, AND WE DON'T KNOW THAT WE SEE THE NUMBERS OF COURSE YET, BUT I WOULD THINK THAT WE COULD AFFORD PROBABLY THE, UH, THE ALTERNATE PLAN THAT WE LOOK AT TODAY PLUS 12.
I BELIEVE WE, WE MIGHT EXPLAIN THAT DEPENDS ON THOSE PROPERTY TAX VALUE.
BUT YOU GOTTA REALIZE, I CAN'T SAY WE'RE GONNA COLLECT A HUNDRED PERCENT ON THOSE TAXES BECAUSE WE NEVER DO AND WE'RE GONNA WIND UP, UH, AND I'M REALLY SURPRISED THAT Y'ALL DID NOT PICK UP ON THAT PRESENTATION ON BLUE CROSS AND BLUE SHIELD TO ASK THEM IF WE WENT DOWN 25%.
LIKE YOU SAID, YOU POINTED OUT WHY DID THEY GO EIGHT UP 8% ON THIS? WHY DIDN'T THAT, WHAT WAS THAT THE ENTIRE YEAR THOUGH? I MEAN THE, THE CLAIMS THAT IT SHOWED EIGHT MONTHS, 13, 14.
UM, YOU KNOW THAT, THAT PERCENT MAY BE DIFFERENT AT THE END OF THIS.
THE FEELING I GOT IS WE'RE GONNA DO THESE PROGRAMS TO KEEP PEOPLE WELL, BUT THEY'RE STILL GONNA CONTINUE TO GO UP ON, YEAH, THEY GO UP 14 OR 15% INSURANCE THAN 14.
I WAS AT THE CITY OF DICKINSON AND THEY WENT UP 33%.
WELL THEY, THEY'VE GONE UP SOME THAT THEY'RE GOING DROP THEM, YOU KNOW, SOMEWHERE ELSE.
UH, I HAVE BEEN ON THE AUDITOR'S LIST AND GOTTEN SEVERAL COMING ACROSS AND OUR EMPLOYEES DON'T KNOW REALLY HOW LUCKY AND BLESSED THEY ARE BECAUSE SOME OF THOSE COUNTIES, THEY'RE PREMIUMS. IT'S LIKE A HUNDRED, I MEAN 1,075 PER EMPLOYEE AND THEY'RE MAKING THEM JUST PUT A LITTLE BIT A MONTH TO HELP PAY THAT SO THEY CAN KEEP THAT KIND OF INSURANCE.
IT MUST BE ONE IS THAT MUCH A MONTH? YEAH.
I THINK IT WAS 1,070 4 49 OR SOMETHING PER EMPLOYEE.
UH, THE SPOUSE AND THE FAMILY.
YOU, I WAS LOOKING AT IT AND I WAS GOING, MY LORD, HOW ARE THESE PEOPLE AFFORDING THIS? WELL THAT'S THE REASON A LOT OF PEOPLE WORK FOR THE COUNTY IS FOR THE BENEFITS, HEALTH INSURANCE, INSURANCE AND THEN, YOU KNOW, RETIREMENT IF THEY STAY THERE LONG ENOUGH.
SO IT'S GONNA BE A JUGGLING ACT, FIGURE OUT WHICH, WHICH WAY, YOU KNOW, WOULD THE EMPLOYEES RATHER HAVE THE EXTRA MONEY AND NOT HAVE THE INSURANCE OR, I REALLY DON'T THINK THEY WANT YOU TO MESS WITH THEIR BENEFITS.
THEY GOT UPSET LAST YEAR WHEN THEY, Y'ALL WERE EVEN JUST DISCUSSING IT TO SEE WHAT YOU COULD DO.
YEAH, AND THE GOOD NEWS TOO ON OUR UH, TR, NOT TRS BUT T-C-D-R-S YEAH, THE RETIREMENT SYSTEM, OUR COST ACTUALLY WENT DOWN A QUARTER PERCENT, WHEREAS LAST YEAR, IF I REMEMBER IT WENT UP 2% OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, OR HALF PERCENT OR SOMETHING ACTUALLY DROPPED.
AND THAT WAS BECAUSE OF THE PERFORMANCE OF THE OVERALL SYSTEM.
YOU KNOW, IN THE UH, ACTUARY THEY WERE A LOT BETTER SHAPE.
BUT IF YOU, IF YOU ADD THE, THE INSURANCE THAT YOU HAVE TO ADD TO IT.
BUT TERM LIFE, WE, WE ALL HAVE THREE MONTHS AT 9.65% AND WE'LL HAVE NINE MONTHS AT 9.75%.
'CAUSE OF THOSE OTHER BENEFITS OF ATTITUDE FAR THREE MONTHS? NO, FOR EIGHT MONTHS, NINE MONTHS.
UH, I, I MEAN UNLESS I'M READING, I'M READING THEM WRONG.
UH, SAYS RIGHT HERE, UM, RETIREMENT PLAN FUNDING IS AT 9.40 OKAY.
THAT THAT DID GO DOWN POINT 25%.
SO THE TOTAL CONTRIBUTION RATE THAT WE ARE REQUIRED TO MAKE IS 9.75%.
THAT'S WHAT I AND WHAT DID WE BUDGET PAST YEAR? 9.65.
AT LEAST IT DIDN'T GO UP AT LEAST UH, THE CONTRIBUTION AMOUNT
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DIDN'T GO UP THE INJURY.NO, IT WENT DOWN TO THE
SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU UNDERSTOOD.
WHEN YOU SEE THESE FIGURES AT THE TOP, IT'LL SAY THREE MONTHS AT UH, 9.65 AND NINE.
IT STARTS, THE NEW RATE STARTS IN JANUARY.
SO THAT'S WHEN WE HAVE TO BUDGET FOR IT.
SO WE'RE STILL AVERAGE ABOUT 500 EMPLOYEES.
UH, 513, NO, ALL OF THOSE DO WE PAY OUT THE DIFFERENT, FOR EXAMPLE, THE ADULT PROBATION PEOPLE, THEY PAY THE STATE PAYS THEM.
JUVENILE, THEY PAY FOR THEIRS TOO.
AND THE CHILDREN'S SHELTER PAYS THEIRS.
YEAH, THAT'S PROBABLY A GOOD UH, AND IF WE KEPT THE CURRENT PLAN, WHAT WE GOT RIGHT NOW IS 270,000 BUCKS ABOUT THANKS FOR THAT.
WELL YEAH, I WAS DOING THE GENERAL FUND.
YOU'RE GOING UP TO ABOUT $56 OF AN EMPLOYEE PER MONTH.
THAT'S WHAT YOU HAD ME DO IS THE ALTERNATE PLAN.
I KIND THINK LIKE THE STATE OF TEXAS DID WITH TEACHERS A COUPLE YEARS AGO.
HUNDRED 9,000 278 70 PAY ON INSURANCE.
YEAH'S NOT MUCH RAISE WHEN YOU DO.
WELL THAT'S KIND OF WHAT WE'RE FACING HERE.
I MEAN, YOU KNOW, EITHER WE'RE GONNA COVER THEIR INSURANCE OR GIVE THEM A RAISE.
IT WOULD SEEM TO ME MAYBE FOR BUDGET PLANNING RIGHT NOW, WE COULD GO AHEAD AND TENTATIVELY PUT THIS ALTERNATE IN.
LET'S RUN THE NUMBERS AND SEE WHERE WE ARE AND THEN WE CAN COME BACK AND ADJUST AND BY THEN WE'LL PROBABLY HAVE THEIR OTHER ALTERNATE PLANS AS WELL THAT WE CAN LOOK AT AND SEE IF THERE MIGHT BE THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT WE DID LAST YEAR.
YOU KNOW, WE, THEY CAME IN, I DON'T REMEMBER WHAT THE EXACT AMOUNT WAS, A MUCH HIGHER NUMBER AND CUT LAND RAISING THE DEDUCTIBLE AND I THINK DOING SOMETHING THAT ALL AND ACTUALLY PRETTY WELL WASHED OUT LAST YEAR, BUT WE DIDN'T TRY TO, BUT EVERYBODY LIKES THE HEALTH INSURANCE.
THEY, THEY DO CONSIDER THAT A, UH, A GOOD INFRINGING BENEFIT.
I THINK KAREN MADE YOU A COPY OF, UH, THE LATEST UPDATED FIGURES.
I DUNNO, WE'VE HAD A CHANCE TO LOOK THAT OVER.
UH, I'M DOING IT AS TIME PERMITS AND UH, YOU KNOW, THERE MAY BE SOME AREAS IN THERE TO SEE THAT WE CAN, UH, WE CAN ASK SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT AND SEE WHAT WE CAN SEE WHERE WE, WE FIND SOME OTHER AREAS NOT ON THEIR, UH, EXPENSIVE, BUT ALSO ON, UH, THE, UH, REVENUE PART.
ONE OF THE BIG FUNDS WE HAVE IS THAT 6 64? IS THAT, UH, GENERAL FUND? GENERAL GOVERNMENT? IS THAT THE GENERAL GOVERNMENT'S? 4 0 9.
THAT'S, THAT'S ONE THAT WE, UH, UH, THAT'S A HUGE FUND.
IT'S GOT A LOT OF OTHER, UH, THINGS IN IT AND UH, I MEAN IT'S GOT A LOT OF DIFFERENT AREAS IN IT THAT WE TRIED TO GO THROUGH AND LOOK FOR.
UH, FOR EXAMPLE, ON UTILITIES WE'RE UH, WE'RE GONNA GO THROUGH AND, AND UH, MAKE SURE WE'VE GOT THE CORRECTION.
SO, YOU KNOW, THERE, THERE'S SOME, UH, SOME AREAS WE CAN LOOK AT.
AND WE DO HAVE SOME THINGS IN HERE.
FOR EXAMPLE, ON PAGE, UH, SEVEN SEVEN, IT'S GOT THE, UH, CAPITAL MURDER CASES.
THERE ARE SOME LITTLE, UH, NUMBERS THAT ARE BUDGETED THERE THAT HOPEFULLY WE'RE GONNA GET REIMBURSED FROM AS WELL THAT SHOW UP AT REVENUE.
AND I DUNNO WHETHER KAREN THEY'RE IN THE REVENUE PORTION OR NOT.
BUT IT, WE WE'RE, WE'RE UP FOR THREE, THREE DIFFERENT GRANTS WITH TEXAS INDIGENT DEFENSE COMMISSION.
BUT EACH ONE OF 'EM, ONE'S FOR ERIC WILLIAMS, ONE'S FOR KIM WILLIAMS, AND ONE'S FOR BROWNLOW.
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TO SPEND A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS BEFORE THAT SUPPLY BEFORE THAT.IF ONE OF 'EM STARTS MOVING AND WE START SPENDING IT WILL GET THAT AS EXTRA.
I HAVEN'T BUDGED, BUT IT WOULD JUST BE A WASH REALLY.
UH, AS FAR AS THE NEXT TIME TO MEET, WE HAVE OUR REGULAR MEETING MONDAY THE 14TH.
UH, WHAT'S EVERYBODY'S SCHEDULE NEXT WEEK? LIKE ON THURSDAY? THURSDAY MORNING? CAN YOU MAKE IT WORK? CAN YOU MAKE IT WORK, TOM? NEXT 30.
WHAT'S A DAY 17TH SUPPOSED TO BE OUT TOWN.
HOW ABOUT THE 15TH? WELL, THAT WAS THE DAY AFTER THE COURT MEETING.
KAREN GONNA NEED A LITTLE TIME TO YEAH, WE DON'T GET THE NUMBERS TILL THE 15TH.
I HAVE SOME TIME TO WORK WITH THOSE ABOUT THE 21ST.
THAT'S WHAT I WAS GONNA SAY, THIS SHOULD JUST FOR BUDGET.
I'VE GOT A MEETING IN NORTH AT THE COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENTS THAT MORNING AT NINE 30.
BUT MAYBE WE CAN DO A, I SHOULD BE BACK BY LUNCH.
I THINK THE FISH GONNA BE THAT DAY.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS BEFORE WE TURN OUT? YEAH, WE GOT THE, AT LEAST TO KNOW A LITTLE SOMETHING ABOUT WE SHOULD NOT HAVE.
OUR, CHRIS TOLD ME THE OTHER DAY HE THOUGHT THEY WERE GONNA BE PRETTY WELL 4% LIKE WE HAD SEEN EARLIER.
I'VE GOT A QUESTION ABOUT THE APPRAISAL DISTRICT.
DID WE FUND THEM? NO, WE FOUND, UH, OUR SHARE EVERY TAX UNIT IN THE COUNTY PAYS THEIR SHARE OF THE OPERATIONAL APPRAISAL AND IT'S BASED ON VALUE, NOT VALUE, BUT THE ACTUAL DOLLAR AMOUNT THAT IT RAISED.
THE THAT COMES IN, I THINK THE LARGEST ONE IS FOUR.
IDI THINK, I THINK THE COUNTY AND IN THE BOARD IS BUDGET.
WE HAVE NO CONTROL OVER THEIR, WELL OTHER THAN WE HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE THAT, AND UH, YOU KNOW, THAT'S, THAT'S I NOTICE EVERY YEAR THEY GIVE THEMSELVES RAISE SOME OF THEM PRETTY SUBSTANTIAL.
I DIDN'T, I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT THE PROCESS FOR THAT WAS.
WELL, IT GOES THROUGH THEIR, THE BOARD IT GOES THROUGH, IF THE BOARD APPROVES IT, OF COURSE NOBODY WANTS TO BUCK THE APPRAISAL DISTRICT.
I'M PRETTY SURE THEIR TAXES BE EVACUATED NEXT YEAR, BUT THAT'S ONLY DEPARTMENT I SEEN.
IT GETS RAISE YEAR AND LIKE I SAID, SOME OF THEM ARE PRETTY SUBSTANTIAL.
SO CHRIS IS MAKING UM, A REALLY NICE SALARY.
ALRIGHT, I HAVE A MOTION TO ADJOURN.
MANNING MAKES THAT MOTION COMMISSION FOR OPPOSED.