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WE HAVE A SIGN IN SHEET OVER TO THE, I DON'T HAVE A GAVEL, I HAVE TO SPEAK LOUD, I GUESS.
BUT, UH, IF YOU, UH, WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE COURT, WE HAVE A, A SIGN IN SHEET FOR YOU HERE.
UH, WE'LL BEGIN JUST IN A MOMENT, AND, UH, UH, LIKE TO INTRODUCE, UH, TO YOU, IKE YOUNG, WHO IS, UH, EX OFFICIO MEMBER OF THE COURT THIS MORNING.
IKE, UH, UH, BID ON THE BEAD COUNTY JUDGE FOR A DAY AT THE COFFMAN CHAMBER OF COMMERCE OFFICER.
AND SO I WE'RE GLAD TO HAVE YOU AND, UH, THANK YOU.
I THINK YOU WANT TO ADDRESS THE CROWD HERE JUST IN A MOMENT.
AND SO, UH, WE'LL, WE'LL DO THAT.
WE HAVE OUR OPENING, UH, INFORMATION AND, UH, HE HAS LOTS OF WORDS OF WISDOM, I THINK, FOR OUR STATE.
SO WE'RE GLAD, GLAD TO HAVE AN IDEA.
I BELIEVE THE TIME IS, UH, TIME TO BEGIN, AND I'D LIKE TO WELCOME EVERYONE TO, UH, THIS, A REGULAR MEETING OF THE KAMAN COUNTY COMMISSIONER'S COURT.
UH, WE'RE PLEASED THAT YOU'RE HERE TODAY.
WE WILL BEGIN THE MEETING WITH OUR USUAL, UH, OPENING CEREMONY.
WE'LL HAVE THE INVOCATION, AND I'LL ASK, UH, COMMISSIONER LIK TO DELIVER THAT.
AND THEN WE'LL HAVE THE, UH, PLEDGES, UH, BOTH THE AMERICAN FLAG AND THE TEXAS FLAG.
AND THEN WE WILL HAVE REMARKS FROM VISITORS AND ANYONE HERE THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE COURT CAN DO SO AT THAT TIME.
SO YOU JOIN ME AND STEPHEN LORD, WE ASK FOR YOUR GUIDANCE TODAY AS WE GATHER HERE TO DO THE COUNTY'S BUSINESS.
WE ASK THAT YOU LOOK OVER OUR STATE LAWMAKERS, OUR FEDERAL OFFICIALS AND LAWMAKERS, AND GUIDE THEM, GIVE THEM THE WISDOM TO DO THE DEEDS THAT THEY NEED TO DO FOR OUR COUNTRY.
WE ASK FOR THE PROTECTION OF OUR SOLDIERS ABROAD, THE, UH, SAFETY OF ALL OUR MILITARY, OUR FIRST RESPONDERS AND FIREFIGHTERS.
IN JESUS' NAME WE PRAY, I PGI ACT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE, ALL HONORING TEXAS FLAG ON ALLEGED ALLEGIANCE TO THE TEXAS ONE STATE, UNDER RIGHT.
DOES EVERYONE HAVE, UH, LIKE THREE OR FOUR PEOPLE HERE, UH, THAT ARE WISHING TO ADDRESS THE COURT? AND I, SINCE YOU ARE UP AT THE HEAD TABLE, I THINK I'LL CALL ON YOU FIRST, AND WE'LL, WE'RE GLAD TO HEAR YOU'RE REMARKS LIMITED IN THREE MINUTES, SO YOU'LL REMEMBER THAT, SIR, I CAN GO, UH, I DIDN'T BUY THIS, MY WIFE BOUGHT FOR ME, AND, UH, THAT'S ABOUT THE ONLY END UP GETTING OFFICE.
BUT WHILE I AM JUDGED TODAY, I WANT TO THANK THE OUTGOING JUDGE FOR LETTING ME BE HERE.
AND, UH, I'M GOING TO MAKE SURE THAT ALL COMMISSIONS GET A HUNDRED THOUSAND, I MEAN A HUNDRED THOUSAND BONUS.
AND I'M GOING TO GET A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS A YEAR, UH, RETIREMENT FROM HAVING BEEN HERE.
I'M AFTER YOUR JOB NEXT, SIR, I RESIGN.
I'M SURE YOU'LL MAKE THE PRESS
AND, UH, THANK YOU FOR PARTICIPATING AND, AND ADDING A LITTLE LEVI TO THE, UH, MEETING.
THE FIRST PERSON IS, UH, CAROLYN LONG
AND, UH, SO MS. LONG, IF YOU'D LIKE TO COME TO THE, UH, FRONT HERE, ADDRESS THE COURT MICROPHONE.
UH, WE AT LEAST HAVE YOU WITH US THIS MORNING.
THE COURT, ACTUALLY, I DID KNOW I WAS GONNA BE FIRST OUTTA THE SHOOT.
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I DISAPPEARED.I WAS GONNA SAY, I'M NOT QUITE AS GRACIOUS AS, AS I IS GOING OR HAVE, UH, UH, JUDGE, I AM CONCERNED ABOUT THE RESOLUTION THAT WAS PASSED, UH, LAST WEEK, I BELIEVE, UH, CONCERNING THE IMMIGRATION PROBLEM, THE PROBLEM ON THE BORDER.
UM, I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT.
UH, AS A MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC, I DON'T NECESSARILY AGREE WITH MY COMMISSIONER, UM, OR, UM, THE OTHER MINISTER HALL, MR. DR.
SPIT AND, UM, UM, MY GOOD FRIEND RAY MEYERS.
UM, BUT ANYWAY, I, UH, DIDN'T HAVE A CHANCE TO KNOW MORE ABOUT IT.
I WOULD'VE BEEN HERE MYSELF TO HAVE A FEW WORDS TO SAY.
I THINK THAT, THAT ALL THAT RESOLUTION MIGHT BE TABLED AND CONSIDERED A LITTLE BIT LATER BECAUSE I THINK THAT THINGS ARE COOLING OFF AND THE CRISES IS NOT AS DIRE AS WE THINK IT IS.
I THINK OUR DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC HEALTH CERTAINLY WOULD NOT ALLOW IMMIGRANTS OR WHOEVER TO COME INTO THE INTERIOR OF THE UNITED STATES IF THEY SUFFERED FROM ANY, ANY MALADIES.
UM, I THINK THEY GO THROUGH SCRUPULOUS, UM, UH, HYGIENE REGULATIONS.
UM, I THINK THAT, UH, WE ARE A COUNTY, A WELCOMING COUNTY, ALWAYS HAVE BEEN.
UH, MY FAMILY IS SIX GENERATIONS FROM KAMAN, AND I'VE CERTAINLY SEEN PEOPLE COME AND GO FROM ALL NATIONALITIES, EVERY BACKGROUND, EVERYTHING, AND BEEN WELCOMED IN KAUFMAN.
AND I'D LIKE TO, UH, IF THAT IS THE CASE, THEN I'D LIKE TO SAY WE WILL CONTINUE.
I DON'T WANT OUR COUNTY TO GET A REPUTATION FOR BEING EXTREMIST, UH, BUT, UH, MORE PLACE THAN IT HAS ALWAYS BEEN.
UM, MEMBERS OF YOUR, OF THE COMMISSION, THEY'RE ALL FAMILIES.
UM, FAMILY CAME OVER HERE VERY YOUNG ON THE BOATS.
I KNOW ALL THESE THINGS, AND I THINK WE OUGHT TO HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF, UH, COMPASSION IN THINKING ABOUT THIS, UM, AND COOLING IT DOWN JUST A LITTLE BIT.
I THINK I THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
NEXT WOULD BE RAY MYERS, UH, TALKING ABOUT THE BORDER CRISIS, TO REMIND EVERYBODY THAT OUR OPENING REMARKS ARE FOR THREE MINUTES.
AND SO HONOR THAT MS. USED, IF YOU'LL GOT YOUR CLOCK WITH YOU.
UH, I'LL TRY TO TAKE AFTER THAT.
THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE, AND THANK YOU FOR, FOR ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK.
UH, JUDGE, I'D LIKE TO EXPRESS THAT TO ALL OF THE COMMISSIONERS THAT OUR REPORTS HAVE BEEN STRAIGHT OFF OF THE DEBT, THE DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC SAFETY REPORTS, AND, UH, WE HAVE NOT, UH, UH, THERE'S NOTHING ABOUT HEARSAY.
WHENEVER WE PUT FACTS AND FIGURES UP, WE PUT IT FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC SAFETY.
AND OUR REPORT THIS MORNING THAT WE JUST RECEIVED THIS MORNING, IS THAT WE HAVE A GREAT PORTION OF OUR DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC SAFETY THAT HAVE BEEN ACTUALLY HANDS ON, ON THE WATER DOWN THERE THAT ARE COMING DOWN WITH, WITH ILLNESSES.
AND THE, THE GUARD THAT'S BEEN SENT DOWN HAS BEEN SENT DOWN TO, TO RELIEVE THEM BECAUSE THEY'VE BEEN ACTUALLY DOING HANDS ON THINGS DOWN THERE, AND THEY NEED RELIEF.
AND A LOT OF THESE DPS OFFICERS CANNOT EVEN GO HOME TO THEIR, THEIR FAMILY.
AND ALSO THE OTHER REPORT IS ONLY A VERY, VERY SMALL PERCENT, LESS THAN 10% ARE ACTUALLY KIDS OVER THE AGE OF 17 YEARS OLD.
UH, THE MAJORITY OF THESE PEOPLE, UH, WAY UP THERE, 85 OR SO PERCENT ARE PEOPLE COMING OVER HERE THAT ARE, THAT ARE, UH, UH, 18 YEARS PLUS.
AND AGAIN, I THINK I MENTIONED THIS THE LAST TIME, UM, THE MAGIC NUMBER THAT THESE PEOPLE WILL COME OVER, EVEN IF THEY'RE 23 YEARS OLD, THEY'LL COME TO A DPS OFFICER OR BOARD AGENTS SAY, I'M 15, THAT'S THE MAGIC NUMBER.
SO THERE'S WHERE THEY'RE GETTING A LOT OF THIS NUMBER BECAUSE EVERY ONE OF 'EM SAY THEY'RE 15, IF THEY'RE, IF THEY'RE OVER, UH, THE AGE OF, OF, UH, OF 15 AND THERE, THEY'LL, THEY'LL, THEY'LL SAY 15.
ANYWAY, BUT YOU TAKE THAT IN CONSIDERATION.
UH, UH, WE WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE COURT OF BRIEF ABOUT PRINT ROAD OR PRIVATE ROAD.
THANK Y'ALL FOR LETTING ME SPEAK.
2 35 CRE AND THAT'S COUNTY ROAD.
AND THERE'S PRIVATE ROAD RUNS PARALLEL WITH ABOUT HALFWAY DOWN THERE.
EIGHT, EIGHT PEOPLE LIVE DOWN THERE ON THAT PRIVATE ROAD.
I UNDERSTAND THAT THE COUNTY DOESN'T MAINTAIN IT, BUT WE HAVE SOME FOLKS THAT
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DON'T MAINTAIN THE ROAD THERE.AND I'VE WORKED ON IT FOR 12, 13 YEARS, LIVED THERE TIME OF MONEY, AND, UH, UH, WE JUST DON'T WANNA DO IT NO MORE.
AND I'VE TALKED TO MR. MANNING ABOUT IT, AND, UH, MR. GOOD'S OFFICE ABOUT IT.
UH, WHAT I UNDERSTAND, THE LAW STATES A PRIVATE ACCESS EASEMENT RIGHT OF WAY, WHICH THAT IS, IS TO BE MAINTAINED BY THE LANDOWNER ON EACH PORTION.
AND, UH, THAT LANDOWNER DOESN'T WANT FILL IN A POT.
AND SO I'M LOOKING FOR ANY RELIEF, WHATEVER AGENCY CAN SEND HIM A LETTER OR WHATEVER TO SAY, HEY, WE NEED TO GET THIS DRUG UP SNUFFED, BECAUSE HE COULD IMP EMERGENCY VEHICLE RESPONSE.
WE ALSO HAVE A FENCE AT THE SCRATCH FROM THE LANE FROM OUR PRIVATE ROAD, AND THERE'S 50 FOOT EASEMENT THERE, AND I WANT TO KNOW THEY THAT FENCE DOWN AND BYPASS THAT PART OF THAT PRIVATE ROAD AND APPRAISAL DISTRICT SEEMS TO FEEL LIKE THAT WE CAN'T, THAT'S NOT THOSE PEOPLE'S PROPERTY THAT RUNS ALL TO THE FENCE SINCE THERE'S A 50 FOOT EASEMENT.
AND, UH, I'VE BEEN DEALING WITH THIS FOR 13 YEARS AND I'M TIRED OF IT.
AND THAT'S, I JUST NEED SOME HELP HERE.
THERE'S SIX OF US DOWN THERE THAT WE'RE BEING HELD HOSTAGE BY ONE PERSON.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR BEING HERE.
NEXT WOULD BE, UH, JIMMY WEAVER FROM THE KAMAN COUNTY CHAIRMAN OF THE KAMAN COUNTY REPUBLICAN PARTY.
UH, BROUGHT THE ELECTION JUDGES AND CLERKS COMING ELECTION.
THIS ONE, ALL PEOPLE, WE GOT VOLUNTEERS SO FAR.
IN ADDITION TO THAT, UH, COMMITTEE THAT'S GONNA BE PICKING THE, UH, CONSTABLE PRECINCT TWO WOULD LIKE TO HAVE PERMISSION TO USE THE SUB COURTHOUSE CALL THAT, UH, ELECTION NEXT AUGUST, FIFTH TUESDAY NIGHT, THE PROGRAMS. OH, I, I THINK SO.
AND I WOULD'VE JUST WORK WITH COMMISSIONER CLARK.
UH, THAT, WELL, THAT, THAT ACTUALLY WILL BE TUESDAY THE FIFTH, AND I THINK WE'RE GONNA START CONVENE AT SIX 30.
UH, IT IS AN OPEN MEETING, SO PEOPLE IS WELCOME TO BE THERE AND WE'LL GET THAT BEHIND US.
IT'S CONDUCTING COUNTY LL CHRISTIAN USE THAT COMMITTEE.
IF YOU'LL WORK WITH, UH, RAY, YOU'LL HELP GET IT OPEN.
IT'S NEXT IS RONNIE OLDFIELD COUNTY ELECT.
THE, THE BUDGET SPECIAL MEETING THAT WAS HELD LAST WEEK, FORMER COMMISSIONER LER, UH, BROUGHT UP AN INTERESTING POINT, UH, REGARDING, UM, FUNDING FOR ROAD AND BRIDGE REPAIR.
AND I THINK THE DISCUSSION FOCUSED UPON, UM, CONCESSIONS OR CHANGES THAT WERE MADE TO THE WAY FUNDS ARE ALLOCATED A NUMBER OF YEARS AGO, UH, IN WHICH ROAD AND BRIDGE MONEY WAS REDUCED SO THAT THE GENERAL FUND COULD MAINTAIN, UM, ITS POSITIONING.
AND AS WE'VE ENTERED INTO, UM, LESS CHALLENGING TIMES THAN THOSE AND, AND, AND YOU GUYS ARE WISELY SEEKING TO RESTORE THE IMPACT OF THAT.
YOU KNOW, I I JUST WANT TO ENCOURAGE YOU TO CONSIDER, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE HEARD THE TAXPAYERS SAY, YOU KNOW, THE TAXPAYERS FEEL LIKE THE ROAD AND BRIDGE PRIORITY HAS NOT YET BEEN ADDRESSED.
SO AS BUDGET PRIORITIES ARE BEING ESTABLISHED, I JUST ENCOURAGE THE COURT TO REFLECT AND, AND, AND MAKE ALLOCATIONS TO FULLY FUND THE ROAD AND BRIDGE PROGRAM AND OUR EMERGENCY SERVICE VOLUNTEERS, UM, AS BUDGET PRIORITIES AND SEE WHAT THAT BUDGET LOOKS LIKE.
UM, AND THEN PROCEED ON PERHAPS, UH, CONSIDERING THE, UH, RAISE FOR OUR VALUED EMPLOYEES.
AND I WANNA THANK Y'ALL FOR YOUR ATTENTION TO THE COUNTY'S BUSINESS FOR THAT.
RIGHT UNDER ITEMS OF ROUTINE CORRESPONDENCE, I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING THAT WAS PROCEED, UH, PRIOR TO THE MEETING.
SO WE'LL MOVE INTO THE CONSENT AGENDA.
AND ADAM A IS THE ACCEPTANCE OF MINUTES FROM THE JUNE 4TH 7TH OF JULY 14TH, 2014 MEETINGS.
UH, B IS REVIEW AND THE CONSIDERATION OF COMMISSIONER'S COURT ORDER THAT
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CONCERNS THE POSITION OF THE COUNTY FOR THE ACCEPTANCE OF ANY ILLEGAL ALIENS OR DETAINED CHILDREN OR ADULT FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AND THE POSITION OF THE COUNTY FOR IMMIGRATION POLICIES.AND THIS IS A RATIFICATION OF THE ORDER, UH, THAT WAS PASSED ON JULY THE 24TH.
AND, UH, IF YOU REMEMBER IN THAT MEETING, WE DISCUSSED THAT WE WOULD HAVE IT ON THE AGENDA AGAIN WITH, UH, UH, THE WORDING THAT, UH, MR. LONG HAS PROVIDED US TO MAKE SURE THAT, UH, WE WORK ARE IN COMPLETE COMPLIANCE WITH THE OPEN MEETINGS ACT.
ITEM NUMBER C IS TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER APPROVING DEPUTATION, UH, PATRICK DOWDY FOR THE KAMAN COUNTY CLERK'S OFFICE.
ITEM D IS TO REVIEW AND CONSIDER APPROVAL OF, UH, INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT FOR ROAD COVER OR OTHER REPAIRS WITH THE ABLE SPRINGS WATER SUPPLY CORPORATION.
AND THEN ITEM E IS TO REVIEW AND APPROVE A CONTRACT, I'M SORRY, A PROJECT AGREEMENT FOR THE ABLE SPRINGS WATER SUPPLY CORPORATION AND PAY PRO RATA EXPENSES FOR REPAIRS ASSOCIATED WITH DITCH AND OR COLOR REPAIR ON COUNTY ROAD, UH, 3 22.
THOSE ARE THE, UH, FIVE ITEMS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA.
DOES ANYONE WISH TO, UH, PULL ANY OF THOSE OUT, UH, BEFORE WE START DISCUSSING OR DO WHAT, WHAT'S YOUR PLEASURE ON THOSE FIVE OUT GENTLEMEN? I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THEM.
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM, UH, COMMISSIONER, UH, SHANE TO APPROVE.
WE HAVE A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER MANNING.
DO WE HAVE FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
ITEM NUMBER THREE IS FROM TANYA RATCLIFF TO PRESENT AND ACCEPT THE, UH, TREASURER'S, I'M SORRY, THE TAX DIRECTOR COURT FOR JUNE, 2014.
OUR JUNE, UH, TAX REPORT, UH, TAXES COLLECTED YEAR TO DATE ARE 27,695,000, $40 FOR A TOTAL OF 97.08% FOR THE COUNTY, AND $4,000,214 400, I MEAN TWO $14,412 FOR A ROAD AND BRIDGE, WHICH IS 97.11%.
I KNOW THAT OUR MAGIC NUMBER THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR IS 98%.
SO I WANT YOU TO KNOW TWO THINGS.
ONE, WE HAVE, UM, 85 PEOPLE ON INSTALLMENT AGREEMENTS, SO THEY'RE SOLELY WORKING TO PAY THEIR TAXES OFF.
AND ALSO WE HAVE OVER 1300 PEOPLE, UM, ON QUARTER PAYS, AND THEIR FINAL QUARTER PAY COMES IN THE END OF JULY.
SO I FULLY EXPECT TO MEET THE 98% MARK BY THE END OF NEXT MONTH'S REPORT WITH THOSE THINGS.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? DO, UH, I KNOW THE, AND I THINK WE TALKED ABOUT THIS BEFORE, I KNOW THE, UH, AUCTION THAT YOU HAD DOWN IN PRECINCT FOUR WAS VERY SUCCESSFUL.
DO YOU KNOW WHEN THE NEXT, I'VE GOT A COUPLE PEOPLE JUST INQUIRE WHEN THE NEXT, UH, PUBLIC AUCTION WOULD BE FOR PEOPLE THAT WOULD LIKE TO, UH, PARTICIPATE? YES.
AM I RIGHT, NIKKI? YES, MA'AM.
AUGUST 21ST AT 6:00 PM AT THE TAROT, UH, CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS? YES.
A LOT FROM CHERYL, BUT DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY PROPERTIES TOTAL? I DON'T KNOW.
GUESSING IT 20 PLUS, BUT, OH YEAH.
SO WE DO HAVE IT SET UP AND VERY SHORTLY IT WILL BE, UH, IT'S GOING THROUGH A COUPLE MORE, GETTING THE FINAL TAX HONOR FROM THE, UH, LAWYER'S OFFICE AND THEN BE ON THE WEBSITE.
THAT GETS THAT PROPERTY BACK ON THE ROAD.
IT MIGHT BE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR SOME PEOPLE TO GET SOME PROPERTY AT A VERY REASONABLE RATE.
WE'VE GOT SOME GOOD PROPERTIES OUT THERE.
SOME, SOME LAWYER
WHAT TIME DID YOU SAY OFFICER? 6:00 PM UH, AUGUST MAY 1ST AT 6:00 PM IN, IN TER.
AND I GUESS IT'LL BE USE RELEASES COMING OUT.
WE'LL PUT IT ON THE COUNTY WEBSITE.
ANY OTHER WEBSITE WE, AND THEN, UM, THE LINE LAW FIRM HAS ALSO A WEBSITE THAT THEY PUT IT ON.
SO IT'S LOTS OF PLACES YOU CAN FIND IT.
PLUS WE PUT A PRINTED COPY OUT HERE IN THE OFFICES IF PEOPLE WANNA COME BY.
THEY DON'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO USE THE INTERNET.
ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF MS UH, BRADFORD AS FAR AS HER, UH, TAX OFFICE REPORT IS CONCERNED?
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NOT I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ACCEPT COURT HAS PRESENTED.SO HAVE A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER ZA.
THOSE OPPOSED? UH, ITEM NUMBER FOUR IS RECOGNITION OF TERESA FLOYD, NIKKI MILLER AND DEBBIE BAARD OF THE TAX OFFICE FOR EARNINGS CERTIFICATES AND AROUND AND PRESENT THOSE.
AND, UH, WE HAVE THREE LADIES THAT, UH, THIS IS TANYA, YOU WANNA COME UP AS WELL UP.
WE HAVE, THERE ARE A NUMBER OF DESIGNATIONS THAT OUR VARIOUS OFFICES THAT PEOPLE CAN ACHIEVE.
UH, AND WE HAVE THESE THREE LADIES ARE LONGTIME MEMBERS OF THE TAX OFFICE AND THEY HAVE SERVED OUR COUNTY WELL.
AND UH, LEMME JUST READ A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT THIS IS.
NOT EVERY COUNTY TAX PROFESSIONALISM DOES THESE CERTIFICATES REPRESENT SEVERAL YEARS OF SCHOOLING TO REACH A PROFESSIONAL DESIGNATION BY THE TEXAS, UH, TAX ASSESSMENT.
THESE, UH, LADIES HAVE ATTENDED A NUMBER OF SCHOOLS AND ARE NOW DESIGNATED PROFESSIONALS IN FIELD BY THE CERTIFICATE.
UH, IT'S NOT GIVEN BY EVERYBODY.
IT'S NOT JUST GIVEN TO EVERYONE.
AND, AND, UH, THESE LADIES SPEND MANY OF THEIR TIME, UH, STUDYING AND GETTING READY FOR THE, UH, PART THAT MAKES THIS SO SPECIAL.
UH, BUT YOU MUST TAKE AN ENTIRE LIST OF PARTICULAR COURSES GEARED TOWARDS TAX COLLECTIONS AND PASS THEM TO BE DESIGNATED AS A PROFESSIONAL COUNTY COLLECTOR.
WE ARE VERY FORTUNATE TO, UH, HAVE THESE THREE INDIVIDUALS IN OUR TAX OFFICE.
AND, UH, IT SAYS I'M VERY PROUD OF THEM AND CERTAINLY AM AND I KNOW AS WELL.
AND I THINK TO GO BACK TO THEIR LINEAGE AND LOOK AT THEIR PAST HISTORY AND YOU THAT IN GENEALOGY, THEY'RE ALL CAN, UH, YOU KNOW, GUY.
THE NEXT IS, UH, TO PRESENT, UH, JOHNNY GUTMAN AT THE TREASURER'S REPORT, UH, FOR MONTH OF, UH, JUNE 20.
DID SHE SIGN SIGNED? I SIGNED, I SIGNED TWO.
GIVE THAT ONE BACK TO, UH, JUDGE.
ALRIGHT, JOHNNY, JUNE REPORT THE TREASURER'S OFFICE.
AND THEN THE NEXT, THE SECOND PAGE WILL ALSO BE THE QUARTERLY REPORT, WHICH IS THE NEXT ITEM.
AND IN JUNE YOU'LL SEE THAT IN THE GENERAL FUND WE TRANSFERRED $4 MILLION OVER TO THE PAYROLL ACCOUNT.
PAYROLL AND ONCE AGAIN, HAS TO DO A TRANSFER.
THIS MONEY, THAT'S HAPPENS THIS TIME OF YEAR.
BUT THAT FUNDING BEING TRANSFERRED FROM IS A FUND SET UP TO HOUSE THOSE EXTRA FUNDS TO RIGHT? ABSOLUTELY.
GOOD THING IS WE HAVE FUNDS TO TRANSFER.
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YOU GO.ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? UH, FOR THE, UH, ASSISTANT TREASURER, RIGHT, WHAT IS THE INTEREST RATE THAT WE GET ON THE CODE SO THE KNOW WHAT WE'RE I NOT VERY, IT'S VERY, IT, IT'S VERY, IT'S NOT ANY BETTER THAN AMERICAN NATIONAL.
IT'S NOT VERY MUCH, WHICH IS WHY WE BROUGHT IT BACK.
THERE'S TWO ZEROS IN THE ANYBODY HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE TRUTH WITH MONTHLY REPORTS.
SO MAY MR. MANNING MAKES THAT MOTION.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
THOSE OPPOSED? ITEM NUMBER SIX IS TO DISCUSS AND, UH, ACCEPT, UH, THE, UH, TREASURER'S ORDER REPORT.
THAT IS PAGE TWO OF WHAT I, OKAY.
ANYBODY HAVE ANY S CAROL OR THE NOT ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO, UH, ACCEPT SO MAY MR. MANNING MAKES THAT MOTION TO BE SECOND, SECOND COMMISSIONER, UH, MOTION.
ITEM NUMBER SEVEN IS TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDERING THE PUR OF THE TEXAS TRANSPORTATION, MR. ASK THAT THAT BE PLACED ON.
YOU WE'RE ALL UNDER TO OUR ATTENTION.
LONG MAY OR MAY NOT BE A THREAT FOR FOLLOWING THE RULES, WHATEVER, BUT IN LOOKING, I WAITED UNTIL AFTER COMMISSIONER MAN FILED HIS, UH, ROAD REPORT DUE BY THE TRANSPORTATION BILL 2 51.
AND I NOTICED THAT, UH, SOME OTHER COMMISSIONER DID NOT LIST THE CAUSE OF DEGRADATION ON HER REPORTS AND MORE THAN 2 51 0.018.
YOU HAVE TO DO THAT AND I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT YOU AMEND YOUR REPORTS TO DO THAT, TO GET THAT CAUSE DEGRADATION ON THERE, JUST LIKE A DIFFERENT TRANSPORTATION THING.
THIS HAS BEEN DONE IN THE PAST FOR EVERY, THIS STARTED THIS YEAR JUST LIKE WE DID ON THE
THEY INCLUDED THAT AS BE PART OF EVERYTHING FROM THAT HOME HAS TO BE.
SO IT'S A NEW ACCIDENT, A NEW, IT'S A NEW ACT.
BUT IF YOU, IF YOU'LL CORRECT, AND AGAIN, IT BE BECAUSE UNIT, UH, YOU HAVE TO SWEAR TO IT, GO TO THE GRAND JURY AND, AND PROBABLY THE MOST EXTREME CASE, IF IT'S NOT THREAT, IT'S FALSIFICATION OF BUILDING THAT DOCUMENT, WHICH HAS HAPPENED IN THE PAST RECENTLY WITH ANOTHER OFFICE THAT CAUSED QUITE A BIT OF GRIEF.
IF YOU LOOK AT ALSO UNDER 2 58, WE HAD A, UH, CAMP SEVERAL YEARS AGO WE STARTED THIS, WE STARTED AFTER, STARTED BEFORE I WAS BECAME, I THINK WE STARTED TWO FIVE OR WHATEVER.
BUT 2007 WE WENT THROUGH THE PROCESS OF 2 58, WHICH IS CLARIFICATION OF THE EXISTENCE OF PUBLIC INTEREST IN ROAD BY DOON THE COUNTY ROAD BACK.
WE WENT THROUGH ALL THE PROCESS LISTED ON HERE THAT BYLAW WAS GONNA BE DONE.
WE HAD PUBLIC MEETINGS, PUBLIC HEARINGS.
WE MET THROUGH WHOLE PROCESS AND WE ADOPTED THIS KIND OF ROADMAP.
THE COUNTY ROADMAP WAS ON FILE IN THE COUNTY CLERK'S OFFICE.
UH, YOU COULD GO OVER AND LOOK AT ANY TIME, BUT IN ORDER TO DO THIS KIND OF ROADMAP, WE HAD TO SET OUT A LIST OF ALL COUNTY ROADS IN TAX STATEMENT.
I THINKING MAKE OH 5 0 6 AND IF YOU AGREED IT WAS ON THE COUNTY ROAD, IF YOU AGREED IT WAS CORRECT, YOU DID.
IF YOU AGREED IT WAS WRONG, COME PROTEST, WHICH CAN YOU OVER THERE, CHUCK SAID YOU CAN WIN THIS CASE.
SO THIS IS WHAT I RECOMMEND YOU ASK THE MAP.
THE MAP IS ACCORDING TO TWO 15 EVIDENCE TO SPEND PUBLIC MAINTAIN ROAD ON THE MAP.
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TWO YEARS AGO THAT I HAD A ROAD ON THERE THAT WAS NOT LISTED ON THAT MAP.OKAY? I ROAD THAT AND THERE'S A, THERE IS MECHANISMS TO CHANGE THAT MAP.
THAT MAP IS NOT BELIEVE DOCUMENT THAT, BUT YOU HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE SAME PROCESS THAT WE WENT THROUGH ON THE FIRST ONE.
Y'ALL HAVE A LIST OF ALL THE COUNTER ROAD THAT ALL THAT SENT OUT TO THE PUBLIC ON ALL ROADS.
THE ONLY ONE THAT I'VE HAD TIME TO DO AND PRETTY MUCH VERIFYING KEN, I'M NOT GONNA SAY THIS IS A HUNDRED PERCENT CORRECT, WAS PRECINCT THREE.
AND THAT'S BECAUSE SOME OF THOSE ROADS FAMILIAR WITH, BECAUSE IT USED TO BE IN GRAY TOO, YOU'LL SEE THAT LIST OF ROADS ON THERE THAT ARE NOT ON THAT TAP LIST, THAT'S ROADS ON THERE THAT, THAT ARE ON THE MAP AS PRIVATE ROADS WHERE YOU CAN'T SPEND ANY MONEY ON THOSE ROADS AND TO KEEP YOU OUT OF TROUBLE ON YOUR ROAD REPORT, YOU'RE GONNA PARTICIPATE SPENDING $96,000 ON THOSE ROAD.
NOT SAYING THAT'S A HUNDRED PERCENT CORRECT, BUT JUST, YOU KNOW, THAT 30,000 FOOT VIEW YOU WERE PLANNING ON SPENDING $96,000 ON ROADS THAT ARE NOT OFFICIALLY COUNTY ROADS.
I CAN ATTEST TO ONE OF THOSE ROADS.
UH, I ACTUALLY HAVE AN AFFIDAVIT FROM, UM, THE COMMISSIONER ON THE RED FOX LANE.
I HAVE AFFIDAVIT FROM THE COMMISSIONER AT THE TIME.
THAT WAS, I'VE SEEN THAT, BUT I SAID THAT FOR Y'ALL TO VERIFY THIS IS, THIS IS KIND OF A, A LARGE OVERVIEW.
SOME OF THE MILE ARE DRAWN AND I KNOW THAT RECENTLY, UH, CATA ROAD 3 0 5 THAT YOU, THAT YOU ASPHALT THAT ROAD, PART OF THAT ROAD IS IN THE CITY LIMITS OF TURTLE.
UH, THE CAW ROAD THING IS, UH, I THINK MAYBE WE ABOUT THAT ROB.
I THINK IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE 2.7 MILES AWAY.
WHERE ON YOUR LIST YOU GOT FIVE MILES ON THERE.
PART OF THAT'S BEEN TAKEN IN BY THE CITY OF CHARLES.
WHAT'S BEEN TAKEN OUT BY JUST CORRECTIONS THAT YOU NEED TO MAKE ON THERE.
SO, AND BEFORE YOU SPEND ANY MONEY ON SOME ROADS THAT YOU REALIZE THAT YOU DO HAVE AUTHORITY, SPEND MONEY ON ROAD WHERE I CAN SEE PROBABLY DOWN THROUGH.
SO I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SEE, AND I, I'VE GOT A LIST FOR PRECINCT ONE AND PRECINCT FOUR.
I HAVEN'T DONE MY HOMEWORK ON TO MAKE SURE AND JUST BECAUSE I GIVE IT TO YOU THEN MISS.
IF YOU THINK IT NEEDS TO BE CHANGED, I THINK IT NEEDS TO AMEND IT.
HOW LONG HAS IT BEEN SINCE WE UPDATED THAT MAP? OH SIX, WASN'T IT? WE WENT INTO SEVEN.
I COME INTO THE OFFICE, THERE'S NEVER BEEN A ROAD COURT DONE IN PRECINCT THREAT.
FIRST YEAR I WAS IN WAS THE FIRST TIME WE STARTED DOING THINGS.
YEAH, YOU'RE RIGHT ABOUT US GETTING ALL.
SO WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS PUT THESE ALL ON THE, THERE'S A MECHANISM OF THERE'S A MECHANISM YOU CAN ADD TO, TO THE THING.
SO, BUT IT NEEDS TO BE, THERE'S A LOT OF IFS AND HOW TO DO IT CORRECTLY.
AND I KNOW THIS IS SOMETHING NEW FOR JOHN, BUT IT DO ADD TO, TO THE MAP.
IT NEEDS TO BE DONE THE PROPER WAY.
GET THIS, YOU HAVE CRITERIA IS NOT UNLIKE BEDROOM LANE AND ON TOP OFF THE TOP OF HEAD ON TOP TO BRING ROAD INTO THE COUNTY ROAD SYSTEM HAS TO BE BROUGHT UP INTO THE COUNTY ROAD STANDARDS OR YOU CANNOT REQUIRE A DEVELOPER TO BUILD A GOOD ANYTHING LESS THAN WHAT YOU, SO IF WE ALLOW OUR ROCK ROAD A DEVELOPER TO PUT A ROCK IN OR TAKING, TAKING THE IN.
SO THERE'S LOTS OF, THERE'S LOTS OF WAYS TO DO IT.
JUST NEED MAKE SURE DONE PROPERLY.
WE APPRECIATE YOU BRINGING THAT TO OUR ATTENTION.
WE NEED TO GET GET IT CLEANED UP.
AND I WOULD THINK THAT, I THINK WE SHOULD ALSO, DOES EVERYBODY HAVE A COPY OF THAT MAP IN YOUR PRECINCT OFFICES? I HAVE A MAP THAT I REQUESTED WHEN I CAME IN THE OFFICE BECAUSE I DID NOT HAVE ONE.
AND THAT'S WHAT I WENT BY MY ROAD REPORT AND THEN SOME OF THE CITY LIMITS ACTUALLY EXPANDED SINCE THAT MAP WAS DRAWN.
AND UH, SO I REQUESTED FROM UH, PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT A NEW MAP SHOWING THE CITY LIMITS TO TRY TO GET MY FOOTAGE CORRECT.
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SO I KNOW THIS YEAR IS RATHER MORE THAN MINE IS DIFFERENT, CONSIDERABLY DIFFERENT THAN IT WAS LAST YEAR JUST BECAUSE OF THE CORRECTIONS, UM, THAT I MADE ACCORDING TO THE NEW CITY LIMIT MAPS AND THE T DOT MAP THAT WE WERE SENT THAT HAD EVER, UM, EVER QUADRANT, YOU KNOW, A DIFFERENT PAGE THAT WE HAD TO CORRECT AND SEND BACK TO THE STATE AND THAT THAT HAD SOME DIFFERENT ROADS, IT HAD MANY ROADS, MISNAMED, MISNUMBERED AND UH, MISLABELED AS FAR AS PRIVATE CITY AND COUNTY ROAD THAT NECESSARILY MEANS THE COUNTY MAINTAIN.SO OVERLAY IT WITH THE CITY MAPS AND OUR MAPS FROM THE PUBLIC WORKS.
AND THAT'S, WELL THE MAPS FROM THE PUBLIC WORKS DON'T JAB ON THE SAME MAP THAT MISUSED AS OPPOSED IN HER OFFICE, DOES IT? NO.
DID YOU COMPARE 'EM BECAUSE IT'S, I NEVER GOT ONE.
IT'S COMPLETELY, COMPLETELY DIFFERENT.
IS HER COLOR CODED AS FAR AS PRIVATE CITY? YEAH.
IT'S, IT'S NOT COLOR CODED OFFICIAL MAP ONE IN THE COUNTY OFFICIAL MAP IS THE ONE THAT GO.
SO PUBLIC WORKS IS NOT ISSUED OFFICIAL.
IT'S NOT BUT YOU SAID YOU WENT TO PUBLIC WORKS FOR THE CITY LIMITS.
PARDON? YOU SAID YOU WENT TO PUBLIC WORKS FOR THE CITY LIMITS? YES.
I DON'T HAVE THE COPY OF THE CITY LIMITS.
YOU JUST, I HAVE THE, IT IT DOESN'T SHOW THE CITY LIMIT ON, ON YOUR MAP.
IT WOULD'VE SHOWN IT AT THAT POINT IN TIME IN 2007.
THE THE NEWER CITY LIMITS WOULD ON PUBLIC WORKS WE NEED TO GET TOGETHER, UPGRADE THERE.
THIS MAP, SHE'S GOT MAP, SHE'S GOT OPPOSED.
SO WE HAVE GO THROUGH AN UPGRADE WON'T THEY BEING INVOLVED IN PUBLISHING THE NEW MAP.
I THINK THEY'VE GOT WHAT THEY CALL THE SHAPE FILES.
IS THAT CORRECT? WHICH I THINK WOULD HIGHLY GUARDED INFORMATION THAT THEY'RE SHARE TOO MUCH WITHOUT.
SO WE NEED TO GET UNDERSTAND, PRODUCE A NEW MAP.
WELL, EVERYBODY'S ON THE SAME AMOUNT.
WELL, JOHN, YOU GOT ANY ADVICE ON ME? UM, I I WAS THINKING OF, UM, GOING BACK TO COMMISSIONER CLARK'S UH, SUGGESTION.
I, I I WAS THINKING IF, IF IN FACT THERE'S COMMISSIONERS TO THINK THEY NEED TO AMEND THE ROAD REPORTS AND DON'T THINK YOU WILL HAVE IT IN IN THE NEXT MONTH OR SO, I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT YOU'LL SEND A LETTER TO THE GRAND JURY SAYING YOU'RE WORKING ON IT AND YOU ANTICIPATE AN AMENDMENT OCCURRED BY SUCH AND SUCH DATE.
BUT IT'S SO, SO THAT, SO THAT YOU DON'T HEAR BACK ON THAT, THAT THAT SOMEHOW YOU'RE NOT IN COMPLIANCE.
UH, AS FAR AS WHAT PICKER STEP IS, I I KNOW THAT THEY HAVE A FAIR AMOUNT OF TECHNOLOGY IF THEY CAN ADJUST IT PROBABLY WOULD BE A COST EFFICIENT WAY AND I WOULD IMAGINE SHERRY WOULD BE THE ONE TO DO IT.
SO, UM, THE, THE GOOD NEWS IS I DON'T THINK THERE WOULD BE MUCH IN THE WAY OF LEGAL FEES THAT WOULD BE ASSOCIATED WITH IT USUALLY BE, UM, ESPECIALLY IF WE CAN UP, UH, DO OUR DUE DILIGENCES.
EACH COMMISSIONER THEY GO THROUGH IT NEEDS COME THROUGH THE COURT.
I'VE HAD THIS
YEAH, AND I UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT I MEAN WHAT I'M TRYING TO DO IS ELIMINATE AS MUCH COST AS WE CAN FROM THE, FROM THE, WELL WHAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING IS SINCE IT'S ON, IT'S ON RECORD THAT THESE ROADS ARE COUNTY MAINTAINED ROADS, WHETHER IT'S ON THAT MAP OR NOT SAYS SINCE THE COURT IT'S REPORTED AND UNLESS THE COURT TO BE ACCEPTED THOSE ROADS, THAT ONE I CHANGED MY MAP ON WALL BUT YOU WOULDN'T SEE IT ON YOUR MAP ON YOUR WALL.
UNLESS SHE CHANGED IT WHENEVER WE DID THAT.
AND I THINK THERE'S FOUR OR FIVE TO BE DONE THAT WAY.
THEY WERE ALL CONCRETE STREETS THAT WERE JUST OVERLOOKED, YOU KNOW, AT THAT POINT AS A MECHANISM YOU CAN DO IT, BUT YOU HAVE TO MAKE SURE IT'S DONE RIGHT.
YOU KNOW, WE HAVE UH, AND I'M SURE THERE'S PROBABLY VARIES FROM PRECINCT PRECINCT, BUT WE HAVE SEVERAL COUNTY ROADS, YOU KNOW, THAT DEAD IN AT A CITY LIMITS SIGN, YOU KNOW, OR CITY LIMITS WHERE, WHERE THE CITY LIMITS STARTS AND THERE PROBABLY OUGHT BE SOME DESIGN, SOME SORT OF PERMANENT DESIGNATION, BUT UP ON THAT ROAD FOR EXAMPLE, YOU'RE MENTIONING THAT THREE TENTHS OF THE MILE ON COUNTY ROAD 3 0 5, IT IS ACTUALLY CITY OF TERRELL ROAD.
UH, YOU KNOW, I'VE DRIVEN THROUGH THERE SEVERAL TIMES AND I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY DESIGNATION WHERE CITY OF TERRELL STARTS AND TON COUNTY STARTS.
SO THOSE AS PART OF IT, THEY NOT STAY THERE.
THEY, THEY HAVE A TENDENCY TO NOT STAY THERE VERY LONG.
WELL WE NEED, WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING SO PEOPLE WOULD KNOW, UH, IF YOU GOT A GUY OUT THERE ON A MOTOR TRYING TO, YOU KNOW, TAKE CARE OF BUSINESS EACH DOESN'T HAVE A VERY GOOD IDEA
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ABOUT ROAD STOPS COUNTY MAINTENANCE.THAT'S REPEATEDLY YEAH, THAT'S PROBABLY ALL RIGHT GENTLEMEN, WHAT'S YOUR PLEASURE ON THAT? IT SOUNDS LIKE SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO CORRECT, LIKE JOHN SAID, UH, THERE'S AN AMENDMENT TO OUR ROAD REPORT.
JOHN, CAN YOU SAY THAT SOMETHING HAD A SHOULD BE WORTH UH, BE WHAT, WHAT I WAS THINKING 'CAUSE I DON'T KNOW HOW LONG TAKE TO ADDRESS IF Y'ALL HAVE TIMELY FILED THE REPORTS AND THAT'S GOOD BUT UH, I GUESS I'D JUST LIKE SOMETHING TO REFLECT.
WE ANTICIPATE WE'LL POINT AMEND TO UPDATE WHAT AND SO ADDITIONAL FOUR, FIVE DAYS OR DAYS.
I DON'T ANTICIPATE JURY DO SOMETHING IN THE OF THAT JUST TO ALERT ON.
I THINK THE ONE WE FILED WITH THE JANUARY ONE FILED THE C 32 I PUT ON MY AMENDMENT REPORT AND SO YOU SHOULD PROBABLY USE THAT SAME REPORT IF YOUR ARE THE SAME.
THAT REPORT WE IN JANUARY SHOULD BE SAME BE DOING RIGHT NOW.
BECAUSE IT WAS FOR THE NEXT YEAR.
IF YOU CAN, JOHN, IF YOU'LL START THE BALL ROLLING ON THAT.
ANOTHER THOUGHT I HAVE WITH BIGGER STAFF, AND I DON'T MEAN TO ADD TO THE CONFUSION THAT THERE'S SEVERAL VARIATIONS OF OF THE COUNTY MAP ALREADY.
DO YOU THINK IT MIGHT BE USEFUL TO HAVE SHERRY PRODUCE WHAT THEY UNDERSTAND AS THE COUNTY MAP? I THINK IT'D BE VERY HELPFUL.
I HOPE THE THIRD VERSION STARTING, STARTING POINT FOR SURE AND THEN EVERYBODY'S JUST GONNA HAVE TO SPEND SOME TIME JUST SIT DOWN AND LOOK AT THEIR INDIVIDUAL PRECINCT.
ESPECIALLY SINCE WE UH, REDISTRICTED, YOU KNOW, WE GOT THE STARTING POINT THAT I USED WAS THE TAX NOTES THAT WERE SENT OUT.
WE WENT THROUGH THERE ON OUR WROTE LIST AND IF THAT, IF WE WERE NOTIFIED OR NOTIFY THE PUBLIC WAY BACK, THIS WAS GONNA BE CONSIDERED A COUNTY ROAD.
WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR ROAD REPORT SAID THAT WAS A COUNTY ROAD.
IF IT WAS NOT ON THAT TAX, WE DID NOT INPUT ON THAT ROAD REPORT.
UH, I MAKE A MOTION TO BE APPOINTED RAISE THE ROAD REPORT.
ALRIGHT, WHAT DO YOU WANNA DO ON, UH, ITEM NUMBER SEVEN? HAVE, UH, I KNOW YOU, YOU SAID THAT BUT JIMMY, UH, HOWEVER YOU'D LIKE TO GO WITH THAT, I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE UH, WE CORRECT THE COMMISSION DRUG REPORTS ATTORNEY'S, UH, ADVICE, ADVICE AND PER PRODUCTION OF A UPDATED CONSISTENT THAT YEAH, FROM THIS I WOULD, I WOULD DO MY ROAD REPORT RIGHT AWAY BECAUSE THE FACT YOU CORRECT SOMETHING THE THE WORSE THE BETTER LOOKS ON YEAH.
AS SUPPOSE, YOU KNOW, THE GUY SAYS THAT CROW IS A WHOLE LOT EASIER TO EAT.
IT'S WARM, SO CORRECT THE ROAD REPORT RIGHT NOW AND THEN WE'LL WORK ON GETTING THE MAP AND IT WOULD BE GOOD IF WE COULD HAVE ENOUGH MAP PRECINCT, NOT ONLY THE COUNTY CLERK'S OFFICE, MY OFFICE PUBLIC WORK, ANYBODY WANTS ONE.
I THINK THAT'D BE THE LOGICAL WAY TO DO IT.
SO WHILE WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF DOING THIS, THAT WOULD BE THE TIME.
SO WE'RE GONNA CORRECT IT PER THE MAP THAT, THAT WE GET FROM STATE COUNTY, CORRECT? YEAH.
WELL JOHN'S GONNA GET US A STARTING MAP, RIGHT? AND THEN WE'LL AFTER WE GO THROUGH THE PROCESS OF THE COURT'S GONNA HAVE TO APPROVE THIS AT SOME POINT.
AFTER WE GET THROUGH THAT, THEN I, I'M SURE LAURA NEEDS A COPY AND THEN WE NEED A COPY OF UH, EACH OF YOU.
I CAN'T CORRECT MINE IF I HAVE NO NEW MAPS.
AND SO THAT'S WHAT WE'LL HOPE THAT WE'LL BE ABLE TO GET PRODUCED.
YOU'LL NEED TO CORRECT IT ACCORDING TO THE MAP.
I WOULD THINK THAT'S UPDATE YOU CAN ADD TO SUBTRACT ON THE MOTION, ORDER THE COURT AFTER THAT DOUBT THE MAIN CRITERIA BE CORRECT, WHICH YOU'VE ALREADY GOT TO ADD ROAD TO THE THING.
LIKE I SAID PURCHASE COMBINATION DEDICATION OR COURT ADVERSE POSSESSION.
WELL THAT'S HOW I PRODUCED MY WROTE REPORT FROM THE EXISTING.
YEAH, NO, BUT I I I WILL, I'LL GIVE YOU A LIST OF WHAT I THINK MAY BE POSSIBLY SOME DISCREPANCIES AND YOU CHECK IT OUT.
CAN YOU PROVIDE THAT FOR ALL? YEAH.
OKAY, SO YOU PUT THAT IN THE FORMAL MOTION? YES SIR.
AND DO HAVE A SECOND, SECOND COMMISSIONER MANDY SECOND THAT THE MOTION TO FURTHER DISCUSSION.
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TO POINT OUT ON THE LIST OF ROAD THAT WE HAVE HERE SINCE WE'VE DONE THROUGH THIS.IF YOU'LL LOOK ON, THERE'S ONE HERE.
SOME OF THESE ARE PRETTY INTERESTING NAME ROADS.
THE ONE THAT I'M THE MOST FAMILIAR WITH IS HANGING TREE ROAD.
I WON'T TELL THE STORY ANYWAY.
TREE ROAD ALL NUMBER SEVEN IS TO DISCUSS, UH, I'M SORRY, NUMBER EIGHT IS TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER APPROVAL PAYMENT OF 5.3% TO ENCOURAGE TECH STOP TO PRIORITIZE THE OFF SYSTEM BRIDGE PROGRAM, BRIDGE REPLACEMENT ON COUNTY ROAD 3 41 51 2 7 9 3 24 AND 48 3 IN CAMAN COUNTY.
AND I PUT THAT ON THE, BECAUSE THREE, FOUR IS IS THE TOP PRIORITY FOR THE ROAD BRIDGE SYSTEM.
IT'S AND FOUR, UH, SINCE IT'S ONLY 5% OF US THAT WE HAVE THE STATE, SINCE WE'RE A DISADVANTAGED COUNTY, I THINK IT'S MONEY.
WELL AND IT CAN BE IN KIND, IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE CASH.
ALL IS FIVE 3%, WHICH IS THOUSAND I BELIEVE IS GOT THE NUMBER THAT WE PUT UP TO GET THIS MANY NEW BREACH.
THIS WAS ONE HE HAD MISLABEL OBJECTION.
I ASSUME ALL THESE ROADS ARE ON OUR OFFICIAL LIST, RIGHT? THAT WE JUST GOTTA BE TALKING ABOUT
ALRIGHT, ANY, ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT? SO WE'RE WE, YOU TALKING ABOUT THE PANEL IN OTHER WORDS, WHEN WE DID THE OFFSET AND BRIDGE PROJECT BEFORE, UH, THE PRECINCT CREW BUILT THE BRIDGE IN ORDER TO HAVE OUR INKIN UH, UH, SHARE FOR THE WHOLE COUNTY.
SO IT DIDN'T COST THE SAME CASH UP FRONT WHERE YOU PROPOSE WHEN WE GET THIS A HUNDRED THOUSAND BUCKS BUT IT DOESN'T HAVE TO COME.
THEY DO EACH BRIDGE KIND OF, WE HAVE TO PUT UP, IT'S NOT MUCH.
SO HUNDRED THOUSAND SPLIT FOUR WAYS.
WELL WHICHEVER ONE, UH, WHICHEVER ON THE LIST HERE.
YOU ACTUALLY 2 79 IS ON THE LINE.
BUT IT WOULD BE I GUESS JUST LIKE WE'VE DONE IN PAST OR THEY HAVE TO HAVE A LITTLE EXTRA RIGHT TO SO IT OUT.
IT'S JUST THIS WILL SPEED UP THE PROCESS.
OTHERWISE WE'RE LOOKING AT 2018 PROCESS.
NOW THE WAY THIS THIS BRIDGE PROGRAM WORKS IS THAT YOU EITHER CAN PAY THE 5.3% OR YOU CAN DO IN KIND DONATION, NOT FORMATION.
YOU CAN TAKE A BRIDGE THAT'S NOT ON THIS LIST, THAT'S ON THEIR LIST OF BRIDGETS TO BE REPLACED.
IF THEY'RE CONSIDERED ESPECIALLY INADEQUATE SAFETY WISE, YOU CAN REPLACE THAT BRIDGE.
YOU CAN'T REPLACE ANY OF THESE BRIDGES.
YOU CAN REPLACE ANOTHER BRIDGE THAT'S ON THERE GETTING READY TO GO LIST AND USE THAT MONEY FOR YOUR 5.3%.
AND WHAT WE DID IN THE PAST TOOK PAYING 5% WAS I THINK PRECINCT FOUR RIGHT NOW GONNA REHABIL THAT BRIDGE NOT ON THIS ROTOR PAPER BRIDGE.
THEY, THEY'RE GONNA FIX THESE HAVE TO FIX THEM OR CLOSE, THEY'LL FIX THESE.
THAT'S WHAT I WAS TRYING TO GET.
YOU NEED TO COUNTYWIDE DETERMINE WHICH ROAD, WHICH BRIDGE NEEDS TO BE REPLACED MOST EFFICIENTLY.
TAKING OFF THAT TECH DO 5.3% AND YOU HAVE TO, YOU HAVE TO KEEP TRACK OF YOUR NUMBERS BECAUSE TYPICALLY WHAT WE'VE DONE IN THE PAST WAS IF YOU FIXED A BRIDGE, YOU, YOU CHARGE YOU, YOU SAID YOU PUT A A RAIL CAR IN THERE.
OKAY? YOU NEED TO DOCUMENT YOUR TIME,
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YOUR LABOR, YOUR GUYS, HOW MANY TIMES YOU GO OUT THERE, ALL OF THE EXPENSES ON THERE QUALIFY.SO WHAT YOU THINK MAY COST YOU $20,000 PROBABLY COST YOU 40 OR 50 WHEN YOU START ACTUALLY PUTTING IN WHAT YOU, WHAT YOUR MACHINE COST SAID.
SO YOU CAN GET A 50 OR A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS CREDIT BY CREDIT AND NOT PUT CASH MONEY OUT.
AND WHAT WE'VE DONE IN THE PAST, IF YOU LOOK ON RED BRIDGE BUDGET, THERE'S A BRIDGE REPLACEMENT ITEM ON THERE.
WE PUT MONEY IN THERE, WHICH WE'LL HAVE TO PUT SOME MONEY IN THIS TIME AND THAT MONEY SHOULD COME OUT OF NOT PRECINCT BUDGETS BUT GENERAL ROAD BRIDGE BECAUSE THEY'RE GONNA BE FIXING BRIDGES ALL ACROSS THE COUNTY.
SO YOU SHOULDN'T HAVE TO PENALIZE ONE PRECINCT FOR FIXING THE ROAD, FIXING THE BRIDGE WHEN IT BENEFITS THE ENTIRE COUNTY.
SO IF YOU'LL UP ON OUR ROAD BRIDGE, BUT THERE IS A LINE ITEM IN THERE STRICTLY FOR BRIDGE REPLACEMENT AND WE'LL HAVE TO HAVE SOME MORE MONEY IN THIS YEAR.
WE DIDN'T DO IT LAST YEAR BECAUSE THIS THING GOES FOR TWO YEARS AT TIME.
AND SO ONCE WE FIXED THAT ONE OVER THERE, PRECINCT FOUR, THAT PERIOD IS TRUE.
RIGHT? I WOULD LIKE ACCESS ANY KIND.
THAT'S WHAT AS OPPOSED TO CASH THAT EXTRA, YOU KNOW, IF YOU TAKE 25,000 OUT BRIDGE MATERIAL, THAT'S JUST ANOTHER HIT WE CAN'T HAVE WE EVER DONE? YES.
WHY CONTACT WITH WITH
THEY'RE THEY'RE GOING TO DO THESE BRIDGES.
YEAH, SEE THAT'S COLE IRON CREEK FROM EIGHT THREE.
THAT'S THE LAST BRIDGE I'VE GOT THAT'S ON OUR LEASE TO THE BEST.
I KNOW WHERE GENERATED NEED LEASED GOT, SO I DIDN'T GOT ANYTHING.
THERE IS NO BRIDGES AT PRECINCT TWO.
SO THAT'S WHY I'M SAYING OUT THAT PART Y'ALL DIDN'T DECIDE WHICH, WHICH BRIDGE IS NOT ON THIS LIST.
IT'S GOING BENEFIT THE COUNTY THE MOST AND SOMETHING THAT YOU CAN FIX.
YOU DON'T WANT TO TAKE ON ONE OF THESE TEST DOCK BRIDGE THAT COVER A SMALL CREEK.
YOU DON'T WANNA DO 140 FOOT CONCRETE BRIDGE.
BUT IF YOU DO A RAIL CAR OR TWO RAIL CARS, THREE RAIL CARS, WHATEVER ON COPPER EVERY SOMETHING LIKE THAT'S PRETTY WELL NARROW IT DOWN TO PRETTY ONE AND THREE.
BUT THEY HAD THAT, THEY GIVE, THEY GIVE YOU THAT LIST AS WELL.
THE BRIDGES, THEY'RE SHORTLISTED.
SO I, THAT'S, THAT'S ALL I KNOW OF.
SO IS THERE ANY REASON WE COULD NOT OR SHOULD NOT APPROVE THIS OF THIS? I THINK IT NEEDS TO BE IN KIND THOUGH BECAUSE THE CASH CASH OUT SHOULD BE CHANGED TO DISCUSS, CONSIDER APPROVING THE CONTRACT, UH, FOR IN KIND TO ENCOURAGE IT APPROVED PAYMENT.
5.3% APPROVED OF IN KIND APPROVE CONTRACT AUTHORIZING IN KIND HONOR HELP US OUT HERE.
I I I DON'T THINK I, I I I THINK IT'S UH, IF YOUR QUESTION IS YOU NEED TO CHANGE THAT TO KIN.
I DON'T, I THINK YOU CAN VOTE ON THAT NOW.
I THINK THERE'S ADEQUATE NOTICE BECAUSE YOU'RE NOTIFYING EVERYONE OF THE PERCENTAGE IN PARTICULAR COUNTY ROADS, THE FACT THAT YOU'RE SWITCHING UP A PAYMENT FROM CASH TO I THINK THAT'S OKAY.
AND THE ACTUAL AGREEMENT, I BELIEVE CONTRACT WE HAVE WITH
WE'VE APPROVED ONE, WE DID THAT LAST, THEY'VE DONE TWO YEARS OUT.
SAID WELL IT'S NOT THEY WANT
IF YOU DON'T DON ROAD THESE ROADS, THEY'LL CLOSE THE ROAD DOWN.
ONE, THEY FIND A ROAD BRIDGE THAT'S IN THAT DRUG.
EITHER, EITHER REPLACE IT OR CLOSE THE ROAD.
AND I THINK YOUR IDEA IN LINE MOVE THE PROCESS.
OKAY, WE HAVE A MOTION FROM UH, COMMISSIONER SHANE.
UH, DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND.
COMMISSIONER MANNING SECOND MOTION FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
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AS WE DISCUSS AND CONSIDER PURCHASING INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY EQUIPMENT FOR KAMAN COUNTY SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT IMAGING ROOM UTILIZING TX TFI OR DASH FIVE DASH 84 70 CONTRACT WITH EXPENDITURES EXCEEDING 25,000.UH, REQUEST SHERIFF'S OFFICE, UH, THEY ARE UPGRADING THEIR INTERVIEW ROOM, THE COPY OF THOSE QUOTES, A COUPLE UNITS OF PRODUCT CALLED CASE INSTALLED BY SIMEX AND ONE PORTION THAT THAT GOES INTO TWO INTERVIEW ROOMS. 17, 40 50.
ONCE AGAIN, THIS HAS INTERVIEW COURT COMING, YOU KNOW WHAT, UM, SHERIFF, YOU KNOW WHAT, WHERE THAT'S COMING OUT OF THAT COME OUTTA YOUR UH, I BELIEVE THAT UH, CAROLYN DO EXCESS SALARY MONEY GOING LIVE ON THAT.
OKAY, WE'LL HAVE TO DO A TRANSFER.
WHAT'S THE PORTAL PART OF THIS? I'M NOT QUITE FAMILIAR WITH THE, I KNOW THAT GEORGE DID THAT OR SHERIFF BY WAY THAT GIVES US CAPABILITY IF WE'RE OUT OF THE CRIME SCENE AND WE HAVE MULTIPLE WITNESSES, WE CAN ACTUALLY TAKE THE STATEMENTS OUT THERE, VIDEO IN THE COURT, THOSE AS WE DO, UH, WITHOUT HAVING BRING THEM INTO THE, TO THE OFFICE.
ALRIGHT, SO IN OTHER WORDS, THIS IS, THIS IS BASICALLY A HORRIBLE CAMERA AND RECORDER SYSTEM.
AND YOU, YOU WERE PLANNING ON TAKING IT FROM WHEN YOU HAD VACANCIES THAT THAT'S WHAT WE HAD TALKED ABOUT.
IS THAT CORRECT SIR? THAT'S FINE WITH ME.
WELL, I TOLD BRIAN HAD THERE WAS SOMEONE TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT IT? NO.
AND BROWN VACATION, I THINK BRIAN WAS OUT TOWN SHERIFF, SO HE HAD COME, THAT'S WHERE THE MONEY'S COMING FROM.
KW CAN YOU MAKE A NOTE OF THAT? CAN WE APPROVE THIS WITHOUT THE FUNDS BEING READILY AVAILABLE OR DO WE NEED TO DO THE LINE TRANSFER? YOU CAN INCLUDE IT.
I WOULD THINK WITH, WE CAN TALK THAT ON HERE IT SAYS NET SELLING PRICE FOR FIRE 17 2 40.
I THINK THAT'S ON THAT FIRE SECURITY CAMERAS.
SO IS THIS PART OF THIS? I DON'T, I DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT ALARM INTERVIEW ROOM.
ONCE I BROUGHT UP, THEY HAVE LITTLE BELOW THAT IT'S FIRE SECURITY COMMUNICATION THAT'S ALL IN.
THEY HAVE AGREEMENT STATE ON ALL THE ITEMS. NOT SURE WHY YOU MISSED THAT WAY, NEVERTHELESS.
AND THE, THE EQUIPMENT YOU HAVE PRESENTLY IS, IS, UH, IN THE LIFE OR INACCURATE OR JUDGE IT'S, UH, GOING COMPLETE TO THE TECHNICAL FILES.
YEAH, THERE, THERE ARE THREE FLAWS.
WHAT WE HAVE TODAY, WHAT, WHAT WE RECORD VIDEO, WE HEAR YOU.
THE AUDIO, THE VIDEO TRACK ARE STORED SEPARATELY.
WHAT WE HAVE, WHEN THE INVESTIGATOR TRIES TO MAKE A COPY FOR COURT FOR AN EXHIBIT, TYPICALLY THEY'LL BE USING THE SOFTWARE TO COMBINE, YOU KNOW, TO DO THE RECORDING, TO PRESENT FOR EVIDENCE FOR COURT AND WE'LL HAVE NO AUDIT.
SO WE'LL HAVE TO GET IN THERE AND WORK ON IT AND RENIX THE DATABASE.
SO TO BRING THE AUDIO AND VIDEO TRACK BACK TOGETHER, JUST AN INHERENT FLOW.
AND THEN THE OTHER ISSUE WAS RETENTION.
WE, WE NEED TO FIND GRANULAR RETENTION, UH, ABILITY.
SO DIFFERENT LEVELS OF LAW OFFENSE, WE CAN AUTO ARCHIVE AND DO WHAT WE NEED TO DO IT WITHOUT GOING IN AND MANUALLY, YOU KNOW, MANAGING CLASS OF MISDEMEANOR, CLASS OF FELONY DETENTION TIME THAT SOLVES THAT PROBLEM.
SO THERE'S TWO MAJOR PROBLEMS, BUT IT BOILS DOWN TO PRODUCTIVITY BECAUSE YOU KNOW, THE DEPUTY HAS TO STOP, YOU KNOW, MAKE, MAKE A RECORDING AND ASK IKE FOR HELP AND
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WE HAVE TO GO AND REIN INDEX IT, THE DATABASE AS VALUABLE TIME THEY'VE LOST.SO NOW WE HAVE A SYSTEM THAT DOESN'T HAVE A CAMERA AND AUDIO AND WE, WE HAVE TWO, WE HAVE TWO INTERVIEW ROOMS. UM, THE SOFTWARE PRODUCT WAS PURCHASED AT THE TIME.
THE INHERENT FLAW IS IT SAVES THE AUDIO AND VIDEO SEPARATELY.
WHILE NORMALLY IT WOULD COMBINE A MODE TO PRESENT ON THE CD FOR EVIDENCE THAT OFTENTIMES IT DOESN'T DO, IT WOULDN'T MANUALLY DO THAT.
THAT THAT WAS THE, WE BOUGHT THAT STATE OF ART TECHNOLOGY.
AND WE'VE ALWAYS HAD, UH, WELL NOT ALWAYS, BUT PRETTY SOON AFTER WE HAD THE PROBLEM WITH THE STACKING IN THE RETRIEVAL AND IT JUST, UH, TAKES A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF TIME THAT WE A LOT OTHER AGENCY JAIL THEM BECAUSE THEY'RE TRYING TO GET THEIR PRODUCT AND TO, YOU KNOW, GET THAT DISCUSSION IN SHERIFF USE THAT EVERYBODY USES THAT NEED THAT WOULD ELIMINATE THE NEED OF HAVING AN EXTRA CONSTRUCTION AND EQUIPMENT, ALL THAT.
IS THERE ANY VALUE TO CURRENT SYSTEM WE GOT? I'M SORRY? IS THERE ANY SALVAGE VALUE TO THE CURRENT SYSTEM? WE'VE GOT, I'M SURE WOULD BE, WE GET OUR TO SELL IT.
IT'S HARD FOR ME TO BELIEVE, BUT DON'T GUESS HOW MUCH IT NOT HARD FOR ME TO BELIEVE IT.
WE'D HAVE A CAMERA SYSTEM THAT DOESN'T BEFORE.
SO IT RECORDS AUDIO, VIDEO, THE TECHNOLOGY SPLITS 'EM IN TWO SEPARATE DATABASES AND THEY MERGE WHEN THEY PRODUCE IT FOR EVIDENCE.
SO WHAT HAPPENS IS WE HAVE TO GO IN AND REMIX THE DATABASE TO BRING IT BACK IN TO MAKE IT WORK.
WHO APPROVE THE PURCHASE OF THAT SYSTEM? THEY DIDN'T, DON'T REMEMBER YEARS AGO.
AND WHEN WE BOUGHT IT, I WOULD ASSUME CUTTING IT WASN'T THIS IN RECENT CASES, WAS THIS NOT A CONCERN OF THE, UH, PROSECUTORS AS TO WHETHER THE AUTHENTICITY OF THE TAPE WAS CORRECT OR NOT? SINCE IT WAS
BUT, UH, THE BOTTOM LINE IS IT BECOMES A PRODUCT AREA.
YOU GOT SOMEONE THAT NEEDS AN EXHIBIT READY FOR COURT, IT TAKES, YOU KNOW, EXTRA WORK TO GET DONE.
AND RETENTION IS AN ISSUE TOO BECAUSE TODAY WE WE'RE SHOWING TONS OF VIDEO OR TONS OF AIR BECAUSE WE DON'T NEED, UNLESS YOU MANUALLY GO IN THERE AND YOU KNOW, WORK ON 'EM, WE WON'T NEED A RETENTION POLICY.
IT'S AUTOMATIC, BUT YOU DON'T HAVE TO SIT AND CARE AND FEED ALL THE TIME.
WHAT'S FORM, WHAT TYPE OF DATABASE? IS THIS INFORMATION STORED ON THEM TAPES OR? NO, THE DATA IS IS, UH, MICROSOFT SQL SERVER AND UH, IT'S A, THEY'RE BOTH GONNA BE BASICALLY THE SAME UNDERLYING PLATFORM.
I HAVEN'T LOOKED AT IT, I DON'T HAVE A CUT SHEET ON THE ONE THAT SYM PRINT IS PROVIDING, BUT WE DO KNOW WHERE IT'S INSTALLED AND WE DO KNOW IT HAS A HIGH SUCCESS RATE.
SO THAT MEANS WHAT IS IT STORED ON? CURB HARD DRIVE.
YOU PUT THAT IN PLAIN ENGLISH HARD DRIVE AND AND THIS IS A DIFFERENT TYPE.
IT'S THE UNDERLYING SOFTWARE THAT GENERATES THE REPORT WITH THE VIDEO AND AUDIO TOGETHER IN ONE UNIT RATHER THAN, I WAS GONNA START TALKING MOTIVATORS,
BUT THE BOTTOM LINE IS WE CAN FIX THE PROBLEM FOR HOW LONG? I MEAN, IS THIS GOING TO TECHNOLOGY GONNA BE OUTDATED? I'LL BE LONG AGO.
SO, SO OUR MONEY, ALL THE TECHNOLOGY, OH, I UNDERSTAND THAT.
BUT WHAT I'M SAYING IS, UM, WE DON'T WANT TO PROVE SOMETHING NOW THAT THAT MAY BE, UM, OBSOLETE IN A YEAR OR SO.
UH, ONE BIG ADVANTAGE HERE, THE SIMPLEX FOR IS OUR BENEFIT FOR ALL OF OUR SECURITY OUT THERE AND THEY'RE GOING TO BE THE FOR THIS.
AND I THINK THAT MAKES IT A MUCH MORE RELIABLE PRODUCT, UH, BECAUSE THEY'RE GONNA,
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YOU KNOW, IT'S THEIR SYSTEM AND THE WHOLE JAIL SYSTEM ADMINISTERED BY ALL SECURITY.THAT'S ALL WE PUT IN FOR ANY OTHER HARDWARE, SOFTWARE MAY MAKE THIS WORK APPROVED.
AND WITH THE, I GUESS WE'LL COME BACK AT THE NEXT MEETING OR WHENEVER WE BEGIN TO DO THE LINE ITEM TRANSFER FORWARD.
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM UH, COMMISSIONER CLARK.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
ALRIGHT, ITEM NUMBER 10 IS TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ADDING ADDITIONAL USER TO THE COUNTY CELL.
HAVE A REQUEST FROM THE, UH, ACCESS CELL PHONE.
YOU MAY OR NOT REMEMBER ON THE NEW CELL PHONE POLICY.
ADD THAT PHONE TO THE IT HAVE IPHONES NOW.
HOW MANY, HOW MANY PEOPLE HAVE IPHONES NOW? I DON'T THINK AS FAR AS IPHONES, I DON'T THINK WE HAVE ONE OR TWO USERS.
I DON'T THINK SHE'S ASKING FOR AN IPHONE.
YOU TEXT, RIGHT? I GUESS IS SHE'S JUST ASKING FOR A CELL PHONE AND, UH, WE HAVE X AMOUNT OF USERS AND POLICY CALLS.
YOU KNOW, ONCE AGAIN THAT ANYTIME WE ASK SOMEONE NEW SPEAK ON THAT, I GUESS, DOES SHE HAVE BUDGET? IT'S, IT'S, IT'S IN A SEPARATE LINEUP OF COMMUNICATION.
IT'S IN YOU MAY OR NOT REMEMBER THAT ALL DEPARTMENTS, ONE TIME WE HAD IN, IN EACH DEPARTMENT NOW JUST ONE PILE OF MONEY MUCH THE PREVIOUS TEXTOR COLLECTOR NOT HAVE A PHONE.
UH, NOT TO MY KNOWLEDGE CORRECT THAT.
SO IN OTHER WORDS, THE COUNTY, YOU SHOULD FLIP, FLIP VINYL, TEXT CAPABILITIES THAT BE SUFFICIENT, I WOULD ASSUME SO THAT'S NOT, UH, NOTHING WAS INDICATED TO ME THAT, UH, ANYTHING IN THAN A PHONE I WOULD TEXT.
I MAKE A MOTION PHONE THE SECOND HAVE A MOTION FROM, UH, COMMISSIONER LIK AND SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER CLARK.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR TO SAY AYE.
OPPOSED? UH, NEXT ITEM IS ON NUMBER 11 TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER APPROVING A PRELIMINARY FLAT FOR NINE OH RANCH SUBDIVISION IN KAMAN COUNTY PRECINCT NUMBER.
THIS OFF, OFF ROAD, RIGHT? THIS IS OFF, OFF ROAD, YES.
UH, INTERSECTION OF 1392 AND THAT NEW MARKET 5 98.
WE'VE DONE ALL THE PAPERWORK THROUGH OUR, UH, AND HEAD HAD OUR ENGINEERS.
NO MOBILE HOMES? NO MOBILE HOMES.
ARE WE NOT SUPPOSED TO HAVE THIS FOR 21 DAYS BEFORE WE APPROVE? WE'RE SUPPOSED TO, TO BE ACCEPTING IT, IT'S GOING TO APPROVING IT.
I THINK THE SHOULD BE CONSIDERED ACCEPTING.
YEAH, THE SPACING IS 4 25 FEET.
UH, THERE'S DUAL CULVERTS ON TWO LOTS.
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YES.I WE HAVE A MOTION MR. SECOND.
SECOND FAVOR TO, IT'S ON THE BACK SEAT ATTACHED.
BREAK TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER THE PROPOSAL COUNTYWIDE VEHICLE POLICY AND VEHICLE REPLACEMENT POLICY.
YOU HAVE A COPY OF THAT FROM, UH, COMMISSIONER SHANE THAT PUT TOGETHER, YOU HAVE TWO DIFFERENT COPIES.
YOU HAVE A VEHICLE POLICY AS WELL AS THE, UH, VEHICLE REPLACEMENT POLICY, UH, DISCUSSION CONCERNING EITHER ONE OF THOSE TWO POLICY.
I THINK THERE'S A LITTLE, UH, ITEM WE NEED.
YES, YOU'LL FROM TIME TO TIME.
AND THERE WERE A COUPLE, GO AHEAD.
I SWEAR ABOUT THE CHANGES THAT, UH, MS. WANTED TO PUT IN THERE.
THERE WERE A COUPLE, I THINK MORE OR LESS JUST CHANGES TITLES.
UH, ONE OF THEM IS ON ASSIGNMENT OF VEHICLES, UH, UH, WHERE IT TALKS ABOUT, UH, I, I ITEM A IS B CHANGED.
I BELIEVE THAT'S, UH, THAT'S BEEN, THAT'S BEEN CORRECTED.
AND THEN ON ITEM SEVEN WHERE IT TALKS ABOUT WRECK AND, UH, DISABLED VEHICLES OVER ON PAGE SIX, YOU WOULD CHANGE THAT TO, UH, INSTEAD OF THE HUMAN RESOURCES DEPARTMENT AND HUMAN RESOURCES, INSTEAD OF IT GOING THE, UH, RATHER THAN TO THE OFFICER'S OFFICE.
SINCE ALL OF OUR RISK MANAGEMENT HAS BEEN MOVED TO THE, UH, HUMAN RESOURCES THAT WE GO TO THE HUMAN RESOURCE DEPARTMENT AND THAT DEPARTMENT'S PROBABLY HUMAN RESOURCES AS WELL AS THE, UH, RISK MANAGEMENT OFFICE AS WELL.
BUT AS WE MOVE THROUGH THE PROCESS OF MOVING INTO THIS BUILDING, MAYBE THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN TAKE CARE OF THAT AT THAT TIME.
THEY DON'T LEAVE THERE WITH ONE MORE.
UH, AND IT IS ON ITEM, UH, ONE, UH, WHERE IT TALKS ABOUT, UH, THE DESIGNATED FLEET MANAGER INSTEAD OF HUMAN RESOURCES.
IT TALKS ABOUT THE DESIGNATED FLEET MANAGER AND WHICH HAS NOT BEEN DESIGNATED AT THIS POINT IN TIME, BUT THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING WE'LL HAVE TO DO.
BUT IT WOULD NOT BE THE HUMAN RESOURCES DEPARTMENT.
UH, AND THEN HUMAN RESOURCES WHERE IT SAYS THIS REPORT SHOULD BE MADE AVAILABLE TO THE RESPECTIVE ELECTED OFFICIAL DEPARTMENT, HEAD OF THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT AND HUMAN RESOURCES RATHER THAN THE, UH, COUNTY AUDITOR.
EVERYBODY FOLLOWING ALONG ON THAT.
AND I BELIEVE THAT'S, THAT'S THE MAJOR, NOT MAJOR CONDITIONAL CLEANUP CHANGES.
SO ANYBODY HAVE ANY, ANY QUESTIONS? COULD WE APPROVE THE POLICY THAT THESE CHANGES? DO IT LATER ON? OKAY.
THE QUESTIONS I ASKED, WE GOT TRACTION OR NOT, WE NEVER DISCUSSED WAS IN THE POLICY FOR REIMBURSEMENT FOR MILEAGE, SHOULD MILEAGE
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BE PAID FOR SUGGESTION WE NOT PAY MILEAGE FOR ADJACENT COUNTIES WHERE, YOU KNOW, THE PROCESS WHEN YOU DRIVE OUT THE COUNTY, YOU GET REIMBURSED AT THE IS FREIGHT.UH, WAS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? WAS THAT A GOOD IDEA, BAD IDEA, TERRIBLE IDEA.
SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE DISCUSSED BECAUSE I THINK RIGHT NOW WHAT WE HAVE, WE HAVE SOME PEOPLE THAT TURN IN MILEAGE WHEN THEY GO OUT OF COUNTY AND WE HAVE OTHERS THAT DON'T.
I ASSUME IF THEY TURN IT IN, THERE'S NO POLICY.
I ASSUME WE HAVE THAT DO NOT TURN MILEAGE WHEN GO OUT, OUT COUNTY OR TO AN ADJACENT CONTIGUOUS COUNTY.
I SAID BROUGHT UP TO ME SEVERAL YEARS AGO, IF YOU GUYS, MY GUYS WILL GO ACROSS TO DOWN TO SAY THEY'LL PICK UP SOME ROCK.
ARE WE SUPPOSED TO PAY THEM FOR THEIR MEALS WHILE WE'RE OVER THERE? COUNTY ABOUT THAT? OF COURSE.
I SAID NO, BUT THAT'S AN EXTREME.
YOU KNOW, I, I, I DUNNO IF IT'S WORTH EVEN TALKING ABOUT WHETHER, YOU KNOW, IF I DRIVE DALLAS COUNTY, SHOULD I GET PAID DRIVE OVER THERE? I SAY IF IT'S DURING THE COURSE OF YOUR NORMAL WORK DAY ON OFFICIAL BUSINESS AND YOU'RE A COUNTY VEHICLE, NO.
AS FAR AS MEALS, IF YOU DRIVE ACROSS THE COUNTY MINE TO BUY PARTS OR SOMETHING, I DON'T KNOW WHY TO PAY MEALS.
IF IT'S IN THE COURSE OF A NORMAL, IF YOU HAVE AN EXTENDED, YOU KNOW, TWO OR THREE DAY VISIT FOR A, A CONFERENCE OR SOMETHING, THAT'S DIFFERENT.
THAT WOULD BE A DIFFERENT, RIGHT.
AND I THINK THAT'S THE WAY WE DO IT PRESENTLY.
PROBABLY NEEDS TO COME UP, CLARIFY THAT AND KAREN MAYBE CAN COME UP WITH SO CONSISTENT.
WHAT WE'RE DOING RIGHT NOW I THINK IS, IS CONSISTENT.
SO I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD DISAGREE.
IT WAS JUST A CONVERSATION, BUT WE NEVER HAD, WE NEVER FINISHED THAT CONVERSATION.
WE HAVE THE PROPOSED POLICY WITH THE, UH, CHANGES THAT WE, UH, READ THIS MORNING AND, UH, THIS NO DOUBT WILL BE AMENDED AGAIN AND, UH, BUT IT, IT'S THE BEGINNING THING AND ONE OF THE ITEM THAT WE'RE GONNA NEED TO TALK ABOUT IS WHO IS GOING BE THE DESIGNATED FLEET PERSON.
AND THAT'S SOMETHING WE'LL NEED TO COME UP WITH PRETTY SOON.
WE'RE GONNA NEED SOMEBODY TO START THIS AND WE'LL TRY HAVE WORKSHOP DISCUSS AS YOU PUT THAT IN FORM.
LET'S TAKE ABOUT A 10 MINUTE BREAK AND WE'LL COME BACK.
I DON'T, YOU HAVE TO PROVE MY RIGHT ALL.
WE'LL CALL COURT BACK TO ORDER AND, UH, BEGIN ON ITEM 13 TO DISCUSS LINE ITEM TRANSFERS.
DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THE LINE ITEM TRANSFERS? NO.
FOR REGULAR COURT, WHEN YOU FIND LIKE A PRECINCT FOUR STATION, WHEN YOU FIND THOSE, THAT THOSE LINE ITEM TRANSFERS ARE NECESSARY, YOU JUST CHANGE 'EM.
IN OTHER WORDS, YOU DON'T CALL ME AND SAY, YOU KNOW, WHY DO I NEED TO, YOU KNOW, I'M JUST, I'VE NEVER HAD A LINE ITEM TRANSFER AS MUCH SO, RIGHT.
YOU KNOW, I JUST, WHEN IT COMES UP ON THE DAY, I SAY, WELL WONDER WHY I DID THEN IF I NEED TO BUDGET MORE MONEY IN THAT PARTICULAR, UM, THAT'S ONE OF THOSE THAT I, ONE OF THE DEPARTMENTS THAT I WAS NEVER BE A CLEAR DIRECTION ON TO GET IS BECAUSE THERE HAS NOT BEEN A CLEAR DIRECTION ON IF YOU WOULD LIKE, IF THERE'S EVER ONE.
YOU KNOW, IF YOU GOT SOMETHING COMING UP DOWN THERE, JUST CALL ME.
$40 AN ADDITIONAL SUBTRACTION ERROR ON ONE OF THE FIRST ONES THERE
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ON WHICH ONE MEASURE, UH, COUNTY CLERK SHOULD BE YOU SHOULD BE FROM 1000 TO 600.ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? MOTION APPROVE.
ALRIGHT, WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER MANNING TO APPROVE THE LINE.
ITEM TRANSFERS SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER SHANK.
UH, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY A A ITEM NUMBER 14 IS DISCUSS AND CONSIDER THAT WAS ONLY LINE ON THE TRANSFERS.
I HAVE BUDGET AMENDMENTS AND I HAVE ROAD BRIDGE TRANSFERS.
ANY QUESTIONS ON THE TWO BUDGET? I HAVE.
IT'S OKAY, JUDGE, DON'T WORRY ABOUT IT.
DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THE BUDGET AMENDMENTS? UH, ONE OF 'EM IS FOR ADULT, UH, PROBATION, WHICH IS STATE FUNDING.
SO IT'S REALLY NOTHING YOU NEED TO BE ALARMED ABOUT.
IT'S NOT POSTED ON THE AGENDA.
I MEAN THAT'S, IT'S INCLUDED WHEN WE DO THAT AGENDA.
AND THEN ONE IS TO SET UP YOUR TECH DOT C HERS BUDGET FOR YEAH.
HAVE WE GOT THAT MONEY? GOT A LETTER.
UH, WE GOT A LETTER FRIDAY AND UH, I JUST LOOKED AT IT THIS MORNING AND IT'S BEEN APPROVED AND SO I'LL SEND Y'ALL A COPY OF WHAT WE, SO WE TURNED LOOSE TO START.
I THINK YOU CAN START NOW WITH LETTER.
I, I'LL, I'LL SEND YOU WHAT I'VE GOT.
WE JUST GOT IT THAT IAN HAS TO BE KEPT RIGHT DOWN TO THET ON THAT.
AND I MAN HOURS, MACHINE HOURS TRIPS BACK AND FORTH TO THE JOB, UH, MATERIALS AND ANYTHING.
WHAT IT COST TO DO, IT HAS TO BE KEPT RIGHT DOWN TO THE NICKEL.
RIGHT? I HAD JUST PRINTED OFF THIS MORNING, UM, THE LATEST 2000, I THINK IT'S 2010 OR 11 FEMA UH, HOURS, COST PER HOURS THAT YOU CAN CHARGE FOR THE MACHINERY, THE TRUCKS AND THINGS.
SO I WILL, UH, SCAN THAT IN AND EMAIL IT TO Y'ALL.
UH, YOU HAVE TO KEEP UP WITH THAT SEPARATELY AS WE HAVE TO COUNT FOR THOSE HOURS AND STUFF.
IT'S OUR PORTION, UM, THE PERCENTAGE THAT WE, Y'ALL AGREED TO DO IN KIND SERVICES.
SO WE WOULDN'T ACTUALLY HAVE TO BE PAYING THAT PORTION OUT OF THAT BUDGET BECAUSE WE WON'T GET REIMBURSED.
IT'S 90% THAT WE GET REIMBURSED.
SO WE, IF WE DO A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS WORTH ON MY ROAD 2, 8 3, THEN I CAN DOCUMENT THAT WITH MAN HOURS, EQUIPMENT, HOURS, MATERIALS AND THEN WE'LL ACTUALLY RECEIVE 90,000 PAYMENT.
I MEAN JUST ON WHICH ARE YOU TALKING? WELL, I MEAN JUST GIVEN THE ROUND NUMBER.
WHAT I'M, I'M TALKING NUMBERS PERCENTAGE NOT ACTUALLY 2 83 IS LIKE 68, 9 74.
BUT IF I SPEND A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS THEN, UH, AND DOCUMENT THAT USING THE, THE RATES THAT YOU'RE SAYING THAT YOU'VE GOT, THEN THAT WOULD BE OUR, MY IN KIND PAYMENT OF THAT.
YEAH, WELL WHY WOULD MY QUESTION I GUESS WOULD LIKE TO ASK HIM, IS IT, UH, I QUALIFI FOR 56,000 ON THE ROAD, I'M GOING BUY A HUNDRED THOUSAND ASPHALT.
WHY DO I NEED TO KEEP TRACK MY TIME AND STUFF? SAY HERE'S THE BILL FOR THE ASPHALT AND I'M GOING 56,050.
I, I I WOULD ASSUME THAT THAT BE SUFFICIENT.
THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT SAY THE 68 9 7 4, HE WENT OUT AND BOUGHT JUST THAT MATERIAL.
THEY'RE ONLY GONNA GIVE YOU 90% OF THAT.
YOU COULD USE THAT IN LABOR MACHINERY, BUT YOU HAVE TO USE THEIR SCALE THAT THEY SEE YOU TO MAKE UP THAT 10% DIFFERENCE.
SO IF I'M CHARGED $125 HOUR, I WROTE ROAD GRINDER AND THEY SAY YOU CAN'T CHARGE THE $60 AN HOUR FEMA NUMBERS.
IT'S A FEMA NUMBER YOU HAVE TO USE.
AND THOSE FORMS HAVE TO BE FILLED OUT CORRECTLY OR THEY WILL NOT ACCEPT IT.
I THINK GOT GOT THE THE RIGHT.
YEAH, IT, WE NEED TO SPEND MORE ON THE ROAD, THE STATE.
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DOUBT, I'M NOT TOO SURE, I DON'T KNOW IF WE WANT TO GET THROUGH THE NIT PICK PART TO KEEPING TRACK OF EVERYBODY'S HOURS COMING AND GOING.IF WE'RE GONNA SPEND A HUNDRED ON ABOVE 50, AS LONG AS WE CAN SHOW A HUNDRED TIME DOLLARS WORTH OF EXPENSES, A LOT MATERIAL, IT'D A LOT EASIER.
BUT I WOULD THINK TO GET IT ALL DONE AND NOT KEPT UP WITH ALL THAT STUFF AND THEN, THEN COME UP AND SAY, WELL YOU DIDN'T WE'LL ASK BEFORE.
THAT'S WHY I THAT'S NEEDS TO BE ASKED.
I'M NOT SAYING DO THAT IN DECISION.
IT SEEMS TO BE LIKE A SEPARATE WAY OF DOING IT IF IT'S ACCEPTABLE.
YOU KNOW, WE GOT A, UH, PROPOSAL FROM ALLISON BASS TO HELP PRESENT THAT AND STUFF.
YEAH, LIKE $14,000 OR SOMETHING AMOUNT.
SO I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN DO, YOU KNOW, RATHER THAN SHOULD BE JUST SOME FORMS GENERIC.
SO ANGIE, I KNOW KIND OF RESEARCHING IT, THAT'S WHAT SHE FELT LIKE TOGETHER.
THE, ALRIGHT, DO ANYTHING, I THINK WE ALREADY GIVE US A CHECKLIST.
FIXES A CHECKLIST ON EVERYTHING WE NEED TO DO.
SO I THINK THAT, LET'S GO BACK TO, UH, ADAM 14, I MEAN ITEM 13, UH, BECAUSE ALL WE ACTUALLY APPROVED WERE THE LINE ITEM TRANSFERS THAT YOU MENTIONED EARLIER.
AND WHAT WERE THESE OTHER TWO? UH, UH, BUDGET AMENDMENTS AND ROAD BRIDGE TRANSFERS.
BUDGET AMENDMENTS AND ROAD BRIDGE TRANSFERS.
YOU INCLUDE THAT IN THE INTERVIEW.
I'D LIKE TO INCLUDE THE C THIRDS.
AND THE, UH, BUDGET AMENDMENT.
OKAY, NOW WE HAVE THAT FORM MOTION FROM MANNING AND SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER SHANE.
A ITEM NUMBER 14 IS TO DISCUSS CLAIMS FOR PAYMENT.
CLAIMS FOR PAYMENT ARE SEVEN 39,896 AND 23 CENTS.
I Y'ALL GOT REVIEW THESE AND UH, I HAVE ONE CALL TO YOUR ATTENTION THAT'S DATED 6 23 14.
COMMISSIONER RIZZA SIGNED IT AND HE PUT IT IN HIS PAPERWORK AND THE REST OF YOU APPROVED IT BUT YOU NEVER SIGNED IT.
SO I NEED YOUR SIGNATURE PLEASE.
WELL, I JUST SIX 30 ON THE SAME DATE.
ON UH, VENDOR 35, 43 AND 43, THERE'S TWO PAYMENTS OF THE CHILDRE CENTER THAT ARE THE SAME AMOUNTS.
DIFFERENT VENDORS, YOUR HONOR.
LEMME SEE THAT COMMISSIONER FIRST PAGE.
OH, THAT'S THE, UH, CHILD SAFETY, UH,
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NO, THEY'RE SEPARATE VENDORS.THIS IS THE
AND THIS IS TO THE CHILD SHELTER.
THIS IS ALL THE CHILD SAFETY FEES.
THAT'S WHY THEY'D BE THE SAME.
THIS PERTAINS TO, UH, BACK THOSE.
NO, JUST I'LL TALK TO, WE TALKED TO, TO THE, UH, DISTRICT ATTORNEY ABOUT WHAT HER OPINION IS AS FAR AS THE JUDGE.
THEY DO NOT QUESTION AND ASKED AND ANSWERED.
AND WHO IS UH, QUESTION THIS, MATTHEW, IS HE DOING, WHAT'S HE DOING? MOWING.
UP HERE DURING THE AND SIGN DID WE'RE LOOKING, WE'RE IN THE PE PROGRAM.
PROPERTY SIR DISCLOSURE 28 47.
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YES.AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WHERE THEY COULD GO.
BUT THE PROBLEM WAS IS THAT FOR SIX MONTHS, ONE THROUGH SIX YOU DIDN'T GET AWAY, RIGHT? NO.
17 IT IS BECAUSE IT SAYS JANUARY THROUGH THIS.
I THEY CHECK MAKE DALLAS COUNTY FORENSIC.
THAT'S IS THAT SAME, SAME TIME? NO, NO, NO.
SOMETIMES THEY ORDER EXTRA STUFF TO BE DONE.
DALLAS COUNTY TREASURER PULL IT UP.
THAT'S SECOND QUESTION WE GOT ON THAT ONE.
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DON'T PAY US.WE DID FOR THE SMITH COURT, THEY DID TAKE, TAKE THEM SOME COURT HAS IMPROVEMENTS.
OH THAT'S CARPET AND ALL THAT COURT AND CLARK'S OFFICE GET HIS OFFICE JACK.
WOULD THAT BE RIGHT? JW SMITH FOR CARPET AND SUB COURTHOUSE TO DID HE EVER PAY INSURANCE? JUST CHECKING MY CARPET.
YOU DON'T HAVE GOOD TESTING WITH ME.
I DIDN'T, I SAY FOR THE RECORD, MY CARPET WASN'T POUR OUT IN MY OFFICE.
IT'S JUST THAT WATER WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
SO WHAT ARE YOU, I BET THEY GOT SOME KIND OF JESSICA SAID WHAT? I CAN'T SEE THE WHOLE SLIDE DOWN.
WE'RE ALWAYS WAITING ON COMMISSIONER ZA SO DON'T BE PICKING ON IT.
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SURE SHE DOESN'T SLIP SOMETHING OUT.YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE YOU DOING? IS THAT YOUR SECOND OR THIRD TIME TO GO THROUGH THIS? YOU GAVE ME THE BIGGEST PASSION.
LONG AS YOU TELL ME WHEN I'M GETTING CLOSE TO RUNNING OUT.
ANY DISCUSS? ALL IN FAVOR? SAY ADJOURN MR. MANNING? OR IS IT STILL BAD? I THINK, I THINK WE'RE PROBABLY GONNA.