* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [00:00:05] ALL RIGHT. GOOD MORNING EVERYBODY, AND WELCOME TO A REGULAR MEETING OF THE GALTON COUNTY COMMISSION COURT. WE'RE PLEASED TO HAVE YOU WITH US TODAY. IF YOU WISH TO ADDRESS THE COURT, UH, DURING THE MEETING, UH, OR AT THE BEGINNING OF THE MEETING. WE HAVE A SPACE, UH, FOR YOU TO DO SO, AND THERE'S SOME SIGN IN SHEETS, UH, THERE, UH, ON THE TABLE, UH, BY, UH, CHIEF DEPUTY EVANS. AND SO IF YOU'D, UH, IF YOU'VE NOT ALREADY COMPLETED ONE, I WOULD ASK YOU TO DO SO AT THIS TIME, AND THEN WE'LL CALL ON YOU TO GIVE THOSE REMARKS HERE AT THE BEGINNING OF OUR SESSION, JUST IN A, JUST IN A FEW MOMENTS. UH, IF YOU WOULD, I'D LIKE TO ASK YOU TO STAND DOWN FOR OUR IMPLICATION, AND THEN I ALLEGES TO BOTH OF OUR FLAGS, OUR MOST GRACIOUS HEAVEN. FATHER, WE JUST COME TODAY. THANK YOU ALWAYS FOR YOUR BLESSING. WE JUST ASK YOU TODAY TO GIVE US GUIDANCE AS WE DO THE BUSINESS OF OUR COUNTY. WE ALSO ASK YOU TO BLESS OUR SCHOOL SYSTEMS TODAY THAT THEY HAVE OPENED THE DOORS OF OUR SCHOOLS. WE BASICALLY TO BE WITH OUR ADMINISTRATORS AND BE WITH THE TEACHERS, AND ALSO BE WITH THE CHILDREN AND THE TEAM. WE ALSO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE RAIN YOU BLESSED US WITH, AND YOU FOR MORE. WE, THESE THINGS, YOUR SONS NAME, AMEN. AMEN. OF UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD IN MUNICIPAL WITH EVERY VIRGINIA JUSTICE ON HONOR, TEXAS FLAG PLEDGE ONE DAY ONE. AMEN. THANK YOU, ALRIGHTYY. NEXT ITEM WOULD BE, UH, THOSE THAT LIKE TO HAVE REMARKS. DO WE HAVE ANY, UH, MR. CYNTHIA, TED, THANK VERY MUCH. WE ALSO HAVE, UH, UH, JOE WINDHAM, I BELIEVE SPURRY AND MS. NTED, IF YOU'D COME UP TO THE FRONT HERE, WHERE THE MICROPHONE IS. AND WELCOME TO OUR MEETING. THANK YOU. UH, YOU HAVE, UH, WE LIMITED THESE REMARKS AT THE BEGINNING OF THE MEETING TO THREE MINUTES, AND SO, UH, WHEN GETS THAT TIME, I'LL, UH, ASK THE CLERK TO HELP US, UH, KNOW THAT. BUT, UH, THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. WE'RE WELCOME. I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK AND GIVING YOUR ATTENTION TO OUR PROBLEM. I CAME HERE TODAY AFTER OVER A MONTH OF EXHAUSTING PHONE CALLS TO TRY AND GET OUR ROAD FIXED. IT WAS MY INTENTION TO TRY TO FIND OUT WHY WE'VE LIVED WITH THIS FOR MONTHS NOW, AND WHY NO ONE WOULD TAKE OR RETURN OUR CALLS ABOUT IT. THE SITUATION WITH THE ROADS IS FINALLY BEING ADDRESSED AFTER MONTHS OF FLAT TIRES, BROKEN AXLES, WINDSHIELD DAMAGE, ET CETERA, FROM HITTING THESE HOLES IN OUR ROAD. WE'RE GRATEFUL FOR THAT. BUT AFTER WHAT I WENT THROUGH JUST TO FIND OUT ABOUT THIS MEETING, I REALIZED THAT WHAT I WISH TO ASK YOU TO CONSIDER IS THAT NO ONE IS BEING HELD ACCOUNTABLE FOR DOING THESE SELECTED JOBS. NO ONE, YOU'RE ANSWERABLE TO NOBODY, EXCEPT THEY TELL ME, THE TAXPAYERS, THE VOTERS. BUT TIME AND TIME AGAIN, I'VE BEEN TOLD THAT ROAD COMMISSIONERS ARE ELECTED OFFICIAL AND ANSWERABLE TO NO ONE EXCEPT THE VOTERS. THIS IS A PROBLEM, GENTLEMEN, BECAUSE WE, THE VOTERS HAVE NO ONE TO TURN TO IF SAID, OFFICIALLY IS NOT DOING THEIR JOB, IF SAID OFFICIAL DOES NOT RETURN OUR PHONE CALLS. THE ONLY REASON THAT I FOUND OUT ABOUT THIS MEETING IS BECAUSE I CALLED THE STATE ATTORNEY GENERAL'S OFFICE. THEY GAVE ME THE NUMBER OF THE COUNTY AUDITOR. NO ONE IN THE COUNTY OFFICES EVER TOLD ME I COULD CONTACT HER. THE DA'S OFFICE TOLD ME, GO HIRE A LAWYER. THIS IS TOTALLY UNACCEPTABLE. WE NEED FULL ACCOUNTABILITY AND ACCESS TO SOMEONE WITH SOME KIND OF AUTHORITY. SO THIS SITUATION DOES NOT ARISE AGAIN, SOMEONE THE VOTERS CAN TURN TO IF OUR ELECTED OFFICIAL IS REFUSING TO DO THE JOB THEY'RE BEING PAID FOR. THANK YOU. I WOULD STRONGLY ASK YOU TO CONSIDER PUTTING SOMEONE IN CHARGE THAT WILL LOOK AT SUPPOSED BUDGET ROADS, WHAT'S BEING FIXED, WHAT'S NOT BEING FIXED, AND HOW MANY MONTHS THIS HAS GONE ON. UM, THIS, WE'VE BEEN LIVED WITH A VERY DANGEROUS SITUATION ON OUR ROADS, AND I'M PREPARED [00:05:01] A PACKAGE FOR YOU TO SHOW YOU JUST SOME PICTURES. AND THE ROADS HAVE BEEN LIKE THIS SINCE BEFORE THE PIPELINE HAVE BEEN THROUGH. THIS IS, THEY JUST EXACERBATED THE SITUATION. THEY DIDN'T CAUSE ALL. OKAY, THANK YOU. IF I MAY. SURE. YOU PASS THOSE DOWN. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. UH, NEXT WOULD BE JOEL WINDHAM, UH, FROM, UH, SCURRY. MR. WINDELL. GOOD MORNING. GOOD MORNING. THANK YOU. THE OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS YOUR COMMISSIONER'S COURT. ONE OF MY COMPLAINTS ARE THE SAME THING AS CINDY. I, CINDY, THIS IN PRECINCT FOUR. I DON'T THINK SHE, UH, IDENTIFIED THAT I LIVED IN THE PRECINCT. MANNING IS MY COMMISSIONER. OUR ROADS ARE TERRIBLE. I MEAN, THEY'RE JUST UNACCEPTABLE. WE CAN'T EVEN GET DOWN THIS SCHOOL BUS. MY QUESTION IS, WE GOT ONE COMMISSIONER, COMMISSIONER CLARK WITH HIS BUDGET AND MINOR ROADS. HE'S GOT, HE GETS ALMOST $9,000 A MILE TO FIX HIS ROAD. COMMISSIONER THOMAS, THOMAS, HE GETS 3000 A MILE, AND HE'S GOT THREE TIMES THE ROAD. I, I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU GUYS DO WHEN HE STARTS SETTING BUDGETS, BUT THIS IS TOTALLY RIDICULOUS. WE'VE GOT FOUR COMMISSIONERS THAT ARE FOUR INDIVIDUAL PRECINCT BOSSES. I MEAN, THEY DON'T, YOU DON'T EVER GET TOGETHER AND SAY, LOOK, WHAT CAN WE DO FOR EACH OTHER? HIS MACHINE WENT DOWN, SO HE COULDN'T, HE COULDN'T FIX OUR ROADS. NO ONE WOULD TAKE THE TIME TO LOOK AT WHAT THEIR BUDGETS WERE OR WHAT THEIR TIME ON THEIR VILLAGE WERE AND SAY, LOOK, TAKE MINE FOR A MONTH. I MEAN, LET'S WORK TOGETHER ON THIS. IF YOU CAN'T WORK TOGETHER, WE NEED TO FIRE ALL OF YOU. IN FACT, WE HAVE FIRED MOST OF YOU. IT IS A SHAME THAT WE ELECT COMMISSIONERS FOR FOUR YEARS, AND THE ONLY EXPERIENCE THEY'VE GOT IS FOUR YEARS, AND WE DO IT AGAIN FOUR YEARS LATER. IT, THERE'S NO, THERE'S NO REASON FOR THAT. IF Y'ALL GOT TOGETHER AND DONE YOUR JOB THAT YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO DO TO RUN COMAN COUNTY AND NOT ON EACH ONE OF YOU AS A PRECINCT, I MEAN, WE'D HAVE, WE COULD SOLVE THIS THING, BUT YOU CAN'T DO IT AS EVERYBODY JUST DOING, HAVING THEIR OWN INDIVIDUALS. HE HAS MORE EQUIPMENT BROKE DOWN, BUT THAN ANYBODY THAT I KNOW OF, HE INHERITED A LOT OF IT. IT IS RIDICULOUS FOR YOU GUYS NOT TO GET TOGETHER. SCUTTLE BUG. YOU GUYS WANT TO BUY CAMERAS FOR SCHOOL, BUSES, THE TAXES OUT, PAY FOR THE SCHOOL. YOU LET THE SCHOOL BUY THE CAMERAS IF THEY WANT TO PUT 'EM ON THERE FOR PEOPLE AND RUNNING THERE. ANOTHER SCUTTLE BUG IS SCALES FOR THE, FOR THE, UH, CONSTABLES. I MEAN, THERE'S, THERE'S NOT A BIG TRUCK DOWN IN MY TERRITORY EXCEPT BOB MAKES GRAIN TRUCKS COME OUT. SO WHY DO WE WANT TO SPEND, WHY, WHY DON'T WE TALK ABOUT STUFF LIKE THAT WHEN WE GOT ROAD SO BAD THAT, I MEAN, SCHOOL BUSES CAN'T GET UP AND DOWN. GOD, GO OUT AND LOOK AT, LOOK AT THE, LOOK AT THE PICTURES THAT LADY JUST GAVE YOU IN PRECINCT FOUR, AND I CAN SHOW YOU EVEN WORSE THAN THAT ON THE SAME HIGHWAY. IT IS TIME YOU DID SOMETHING. I KNOW THAT HE'S BEING REPLACED, BUT WE GOT THE SAME PROBLEM AGAIN ALL OVER AGAIN. KEN, YOU GOT REPLACED. KEN'S BACK NOW YOU'VE BEEN REPLACED. GIVE, AND JOE, CONGRATULATIONS. MAYBE YOU GET TWO TERMS IF YOU, IF IF YOU DO YOUR JOB, Y'ALL OUGHT TO BE ABLE TO RETIRE HERE. Y'ALL OUGHT GET ALONG AS THE JUDGE IS UHUH. WE'RE TIRED OF IT. I MEAN, IT'S JUST RIDICULOUS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, SO MOVING INTO THE, UH, NEXT ITEM IS THE CONSENT AGENDA. AND THE ITEM I HAVE IN THAT IS THE JP SELECTIONS ON FINES AND FEES. AND I BELIEVE YOU HAVE A COPY OF THAT. I BELIEVE WE PROVIDED THAT TO YOU. AND YOU'LL SEE IF YOU LOOK ACROSS THE BOARD IN EACH OF THE VARIOUS PRECINCTS, WE DO SHOW A, UH, DECREASE FOR THIS YEAR UP TO THIS POINT. AND, UH, HOPEFULLY THAT WILL, UH, INCREASE OR THAT WILL IMPROVE IN THE NEXT MONTH OR TWO. WE'RE GONNA BE STRUGGLING TO AMOUNT TO COLLECT THE AMOUNT THAT, THAT THE NEXT ITEM IS THE, UH, BEFORE I GO INTO THE AGENDA, LET ME MAKE MENTION THAT WE CHANGED THE AGENDA UP A LITTLE BIT. IF YOU LOOK AT THE, UH, SECOND PAGE OF THE AGENDA, UH, IN THE PAST, WHAT WE'VE ALWAYS DONE IS IF WE HAD AN EXECUTIVE SESSION OR SESSION, UH, THAT WE EXPECT IT TO GO INTO, WE WOULD ALWAYS, UH, TRY TO, UH, LIST THAT ON THE AGENDA. UH, BUT I, I BELIEVE A BETTER WAY TO DO THAT IN THE FUTURE WILL BE TO, UH, HAVE THIS NOTICE. THAT WILL ALWAYS BE, UH, UH, PART OF OUR POSTING, WHICH ALLOWS US TO GO INTO A CLOSED SESSION FOR ANY OF THE EIGHT REASONS THAT ARE LISTED THERE. THIS IS HOW MANY OTHER GOVERNMENTAL AGENCIES, UH, DO, UH, THEIR AGENDAS. UH, WE TYPICALLY DO NOT HAVE MANY CLOSED SESSIONS, UH, BUT THIS WILL ALLOW US AT ANY GIVEN MEETING TO BE ABLE TO GO INTO THE CLOSED SESSION, UH, SHOULD WE NEED, SO, UH, NEED TO DO SO. SO I WANTED TO, TO BRING THAT, UH, TO YOUR ATTENTION. UH, THE NEXT ITEM WOULD BE THE CONSENT [00:10:01] AGENDA. ITEM NUMBER A IS TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER FEW, UH, APPROVING DE OF, UH, THE POTASS . I'M SURE I DID NOT PRONOUNCE THAT NAME RIGHT, BUT I TRIED TO, UH, MITCHELL K PATTERSON, MICHAEL GRE, AND JOE HARRIS FOR THE KAMAN COUNTY SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT. UH, AND ALSO WE HAVE A, UH, UH, A, UH, RESOLUTION, UH, PROCLAIMING THE MONTH OF SEPTEMBER. UH, AND I'LL ASK, UH, YOU TO REVIEW THAT. AND THEN WE WILL ALSO POST IT ON OUR WEBSITE, UH, AS THE, UH, CHILDHOOD CANCER W MONTH OF COUNTY. AS YOU ARE AWARE, WE HAVE SOME CHILDREN IN OUR COUNTY THAT ARE UNDERGOING, UH, SOME PRETTY DRAMATIC TREATMENT FOR CANCER THAT THEY'VE DEVELOPED. AND SO WE'LL, UH, CERTAINLY WANT TO, UH, HAVE, BE A PART OF THAT IN COLTON COUNTY OF MAKING PEOPLE AWARE OF CHILDHOOD CANCER. ADAM C IS TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACCEPTING THE TEXAS JUVENILE JUSTICE, UH, GRANT PERFORMANCE, UH, RATING PROFILE. I MADE SOME COPIES OF THAT, AND I DON'T KNOW WHETHER JUDGE, UH, I DON'T BELIEVE JUDGE, UH, IS HERE THIS MORNING. SHE'S THE CHAIRMAN OF THAT BOARD. UH, BUT OUR, UH, OUR JUVENILE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT GOT A RATING OF HUNDRED PERCENT. THAT'S PRETTY GOOD. SO WE SHOULD BE PLEASED THAT THAT DEPARTMENT AND, UH, THROUGH THE STATE IS PERFORMING ADMIRABLY. UH, AND THEN THE, UH, LAST ITEM WOULD BE TO, UH, DISCUSS, CONSIDER APPROVING THE RETIREMENT AND DONATION OF K NINE C-C-E-R-T-T-I-S FROM THE KAUFMAN COUNTY SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT. UH, I HAVE A COURT ORDER HERE THAT WILL, UH, REQUIRE US TO SEND, THIS IS A, YOU HAVE SOME BACKGROUND INFORMATION. THIS IS A DOG, UH, UH, THAT IS NO LONGER ABLE TO PERFORM DUE TO A SPINAL INJURY. AND SO WE WANTED TO, UH, UH, I THINK THE DOG WILL BE DONATED TO A, UH, ANOTHER AGENCY. UH, ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT ANY OF THOSE? I ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ACCEPT, APPROVE. MR. MANNING MAKES THAT MOTION. DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND, MR. ROSA. SECOND. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. THOSE OPPOSED? ALL RIGHTY. I'M GOING TO MOVE ITEM NUMBER THREE, I BELIEVE, UH, DOWN, UH, THE, UH, PAGE A LITTLE BIT. UH, STILL SOME DISCUSSIONS GOING ON ABOUT THAT. MRS. RATCLIFF IS, UH, HERE THIS MORNING, I BELIEVE, TO PRESENT THE, UH, TAX OFFICE, UH, REPORT. AND SHE GAVE US SOME OTHER INFORMATION JUST AS WE BEGINNING TO, UH, START. GOOD MORNING, GENTLEMEN. GOOD MORNING. THE, UH, TEXT, THE MONTHLY REPORT THAT YOU'VE GOT IN FRONT OF YOU IS SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT. THERE WE GO SLIGHTLY. HAS THE JUDGE ASKED YOU TO CHANGE IT TO PUT TO M MSS? I, UH, MI ON THERE. DO YOU HAVE THAT SEPARATED ON YOUR COPIES? I DON'T BELIEVE I HAVE. YOU HAVE SHARE. OKAY. GOT THE M OKAY. THE, THE POINT HERE IS WE'RE SEPARATING OUT MO AND IMS NOW INSTEAD OF JUST HAVING THE ONE, WHAT WE'VE COLLECTED. SO YOU CAN SEE IN THE FUTURE OF NEXT YEAR WHAT WE'RE COLLECTING ON OUR, UH, I NM S. SO THE TOTAL COLLECTIVE YEAR TO DATE IS, IS 28,079,000 $107 AND 84 CENTS, WHICH PUTS US RIGHT AT 98%, WHICH WAS OUR, UH, A HUNDRED PERCENT OF OUR GOAL, BUT 98% . WHAT WE'RE REALLY, REALLY PUSHING FOR, AND THAT'S FOR OUR COFFEE COUNTY, FOR ROAD AND BRIDGE. OUR TOTAL QUESTIONS YEAR TO DATE ARE $4,271,866 22 CENTS FOR TAXES. AND THAT'S WHERE WE ARE THROUGH THE MONTH OF JULY. UH, NOTE, THERE'S THE ROLLBACK TAXES ARE STILL ON THERE, BUT I WOULD MAKE SURE YOU UNDERSTAND THAT THE ROLLBACK TAXES THAT ARE ON THERE UNDERNEATH THE TOTAL COLLECTIONS, THOSE ARE INCLUDED IN THE TOTAL COLLECTIONS. WE JUST SET THAT OUT THERE SO YOU CAN UNDERSTAND HOW MUCH OF THE TOTAL COLLECTION FOR ROLLBACK TAXES. BUT, SO YOU DON'T TAKE THE TOTAL COLLECTIONS PLUS ROLLBACK ROLLBACKS ARE INCLUDED. THAT'S JUST SO THAT YOU UNDER YOU, JUST SO YOU UNDERSTAND HOW MUCH OF THE TOTAL FLEXION WILL ROLL BACK. DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS REPORT? I APPRECIATE YOU BREAKING IT OUT. I THINK THAT MORE DETAILED INFORMATION THAN WE HAVE, SO IT'S GOOD FOR US TO HAVE THAT. ANYBODY GOT ANY [00:15:01] QUESTIONS? THINK YOU HAS SOMETHING ELSE. DO YOU WANT NOT AT THE SAME TIME. WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER CLARK TO ACCEPT THE, UH, TAX ASSESSOR'S REPORT. I HAVE A SECOND. SECOND. COMMISSIONER SHANE SECOND MOTION. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. OPPOSED? THANK. ALL RIGHT. ITEM NUMBER FIVE IS TO DISCUSS AND APPROVE A CONTRACT FOR PRINTING THE ANNUAL TAX STATEMENTS. MR. , UH, I'VE GOT THREE QUOTES THEY, YOU CALL OTHER FIRMS, BUT WE GET THREE WRITTEN QUOTES. UH, WE HAVE ONE QUOTE FROM, UH, IS FROM, UH, A G 40 3007 43. QUOTE TWO IS FROM, UH, BERG 37 2 6 7 IS FROM 47 AND OF OUR COUNTERPARTS AND HAD SUCCESS WITH THE, UH, LOW BID VERGE. AND I WOULD RECOMMEND US ENTER INTO A CONTRACT WITH VERGE IN AMOUNT OF 37,000 2 26 7. AND KEEP IN MIND THAT THAT'S KIND ESTIMATE ON THE, UH, YOU MAY VERY A LITTLE BIT, BUT THAT'S PRETTY GOOD. BELIEVE THAT'S BETTER THAN WHAT WE HAD LAST YEAR. YES, SIR. IT IS. AND, UM, A MG PRINTING, THE QUOTE NUMBER ONE IS WHO WE USED LAST YEAR AND THEY DID A GREAT JOB FOR US, AND, AND I WOULD LIKE TO USE THEM, BUT THERE'S SUCH A DISPARITY BETWEEN QUOTE NUMBER ONE AND QUOTE NUMBER TWO THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, I, AND I HATE TO CHANGE EVERY YEAR TO A DIFFERENT ONE, RIGHT? BUT IF THIS ONE WORKS AND THEY CONTINUE TO BE THE LITTLE BID, THEN WE MIGHT WANT TO STICK WITH THEM. AND I DID MAKE SEVERAL PHONE CALLS TO OTHER PEOPLE WHO USED THIS COMPANY AND THEY'VE BEEN SATISFIED WITH THEM. OKAY. THAT'S YOUR RECOMMENDATION, SIR. IT IS, SIR. OKAY. I, I HAVE A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER SHANE. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND, MR. ROSA. SECOND. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY, AYE. THOSE FOLKS, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. UH, MS. RAP, WOULD YOU KIND OF GIVE THE COURT, I KNOW THEY'VE HEARD, I THINK, UH, UH, MAYBE BY AN EMAIL OR SOMETHING, BUT ABOUT THE, UH, AUCTION LAST NIGHT, AND CAROL, I THINK YOU GOT A BIG SALE. YES, SIR. WE DID. WE HAD A LOT OF PROPERTIES UP FOR SALE AT OUR RESALE AUCTION IN TAROT LAST WEEK, LAST THURSDAY NIGHT. AND WE BROUGHT IN ABOUT JUST UNDER 180,000 AND SOLD, UH, 54 PROPERTIES. SO THAT WAS A GOOD NIGHT. A LOT OF PROPERTY BACK ON THE TAX ROAD. YES. SO ABOUT MANY MORE PROPERTIES BACK ON THE TAX. RIGHT. THAT HAD BEEN ALL. AND SO THAT'S, THAT'S A WIN FOR THE PROPERTY. IT'S, SO I THINK THESE, UH, NEW WAY THAT WE'RE DOING, THE SALES AND THE PROPERTIES ARE WORKING, THEY'RE GETTING A LOT MORE PROPERTIES BACK ON ROLL FASTER THAN OUR OLD SYSTEM. RIGHT. DID Y'ALL GO OUT SIGN ON THE PROPERTY? PROPERTY? UM, THE LAW FIRM DID. THE LOCAL LAW FIRM, WEINBERGER WENT OUT AND PUT SIGNS ON THE PROPERTY SO THEY COULD FIND THEM. AND THEN THEY HAD THAT NIGHT, UM, PIECE OF PAPER THAT HAD ALL 'EM, SO THEY PHYSICALLY WILL GET IT LIKE ON A GOOGLE MAP BECAUSE, AND THE PROBLEM WE'RE HAVING, SOME OF THOSE PROPERTIES ARE LANDLOCKED TOTALLY. SO NOBODY WANTS 'EM UNLESS YOU'RE ADJOINING, ADJOINING. AND THE OTHER ISSUE WITH SOME OF THE CHERYL PROPERTIES ARE BECAUSE CHERYL CODES HAVE CHANGED, IF THERE'S A PIECE OF PROPERTY BETWEEN TWO HOUSES, THE LAW NOW DOESN'T ALLOW YOU TO BUILD A HOUSE ON THAT SIZE OF A LOT. SO NOBODY REALLY WANTS IT EXCEPT FOR THE PEOPLE NEXT DOOR. AND IF NOBODY'S GONNA BUY IT, THEY'LL JUST KEEP USING IT WITHOUT HAVING TO PAY FOR IT. SO WE HAVE A COUPLE ISSUES THERE AND TRYING TO GET RID OF SOME PROPERTIES THAT WE'LL HAVE TO FIGURE OUT WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO WITH. UH, BUT OTHER THAN THAT, YOU KNOW, MOST OF THE OTHER PROPERTIES WENT PRETTY GOOD. WE HAD PROPERTIES THAT SOLD FOR AS LITTLE AS $82 WAS THE LOWEST AMOUNT, AND UH, THE HIGHEST WAS 40,000. SO PRETTY GOOD RANGE OF, UH, PROPERTIES AND A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO HADN'T, UH, WE HADN'T SEEN THE BIDS BEFORE WERE THERE AND THAT'S GOOD. GOOD. DID MANY OF THE LANDLOCK IN THE SMALL LOT SALE? NO. THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GONNA FIGURE OUT. WE'RE GONNA, UH, JEFF AND I ARE GONNA DO SOME ON WHAT WE DO. SOME OF 'EM ARE LOCKED, 25 FOOT WIDTH, RIGHT? THEY'RE, THEY'RE JUST TINY PIECES OF, THEY'RE STUCK BACK IN ALL PLACES AND, AND, UM, WE HAVE TO FIGURE OUT WHAT TO DO WITH THEM. SO WE'LL WORK ON THAT. BUT OVERALL, IT WAS, IT WAS VERY GOOD. LOT MORE PROPERTIES BACK ON THE ROAD. GOOD JOB. YEAH. THANK YOU. THANK YOU MA'AM. ITEM NUMBER SIX IS TO HEAR FROM OUR TREASURER THE MONTHLY OF FOURTH FOR JULY, 2014, [00:20:01] JOHNNY REPORT THERE WE ANY QUESTIONS OF THE TREASURER? AND OBTAIN A MOTION TO ACCEPT HIS COURT. MR. ROSA MAKES THAT MOTION. WE HAVE A SECOND TO SECOND, MANNY SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. OPPOSED? NEXT ITEM ON JOHNNY'S IS ITEM NUMBER SEVEN, AND THAT IS TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER APPROVING THE RESOLUTION TO DESIGNATE JOHNNY COUNTRYMAN AS COUNTY INVESTMENT OFFICER AND, AND, UH, NOT. OKAY. SO THIS WILL CARRY THROUGH THE END, I MEAN, THROUGH END OF THIS ALL, WE HAVE A MOTION TO, UH, ACCEPT THIS RESOLUTION AS PRESENTED. SO MAY COMMISSIONER MANNING, UH, MAKES THAT MOTION. WE HAVE A SECOND. SECOND, UH, COMMISSIONER SHANE SECOND, THIS MOTION OF THE DISCUSSION. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. OPPOSED? OPPOSED. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. ITEM NUMBER EIGHT IS, I'M SORRY, ITEM. YEAH. ITEM NUMBER EIGHT IS TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER TAKING A RECORD VOTE ON THE PROPOSED TAX RATE FOR FUNDING YEAR 2014 AND 15, AND SETTING, UH, DATES FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING. UH, YOU HAVE, UH, THAT INFORMATION I BELIEVE IN FRONT OF YOU. I HANDED IT OUT EARLIER, AND, UH, THIS IS THE LATEST INFORMATION. I'VE MADE YOU A COPY. NOW I CAN'T EVEN FIND MY COPY. WHAT I, UH, THE PROPOSED TAX RATE, UH, AS LISTED CURRENTLY WOULD BE, UH, 0.5762. THAT IS AN INCREASE OF, UH, 0.1970, WHICH IS ALMOST 2 CENTS. AND THAT IS TOTALLY DEDICATED TO, UH, BEGIN THE PAYMENTS OF THE BONDS THAT WERE SOLD EARLIER THIS YEAR, UH, FOR ROAD IMPROVEMENTS IN CALTON COUNTY. AND THOSE, UH, UH, THAT'S THE GENERAL FUND RATE. WE'RE STILL HAVE NOT TOTALLY SET, UH, THE GENERAL FUND RATE OR THE, UH, ROAD AND BRIDGE RATE. THAT IS SOMETHING WE'RE STILL, UH, WORKING ON TO SEE IF WE CAN, UH, POSSIBLY FIND SOME ADDITIONAL MONEY TO PUT INTO ROAD THE BRIDGE. UH, BUT IT WILL BE, UH, REQUIRE A PUBLIC HEARING. UH, THE FIRST PUBLIC HEARING WILL BE ON SEPTEMBER 5TH, UH, 2014, UH, AT NINE O'CLOCK HERE IN THE, UH, COMMISSIONER'S COURTROOM. AND THEN WE WOULD HAVE A SECOND HEARING ON SEPTEMBER THE EIGHTH, 2014, UH, AT 9:30 AM HERE IN THE, UH, COMMISSIONER'S COURTROOM AS WELL. THAT WOULD BE, UH, OUR REGULAR MEETING DATE. UH, SO, UH, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS? THE INCREASE, AGAIN, IS TO PAY OFF THE BONDS THAT WERE SOLD, THAT WE, THAT WERE PASSED BY PUBLIC BACK IN, UH, UH, NOVEMBER OF, UH, 2013. ANYBODY QUESTIONS? NONE. I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO, UH, UH, SET THIS RECORD VOTE, UH, ON PROPOSED TAX RATE. AGAIN, IT'S THE TOTAL RATE WE'RE APPROVING. IT'S NOT THE INDIVIDUAL M AND O RATE OR THE INS, RIGHT? NOT THE IS RATE IS SET. IT'S THE ROAD BRIDGE RATE. SO WE STILL HAVE A LITTLE ROOM, BUT THE TOTAL RATE WILL NOT BE MORE THAN THAT. POINT FIVE SEVEN SIX TWO SIX THAT WE SET THE BOTH TAX 2014 TAX YEAR AT 0.5762 FOR HUNDRED VALUATION. WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER, MAN. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. COMMISSIONER ROSA. SECOND THE MOTION. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION FOR DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. AYE. THOSE OPPOSED? OKAY, I PREPARED FOR YOU. LEMME BORROW YOURS BECAUSE I CAN'T HERE, HERE'S WHAT, UH, I PREPARED FOR YOU. JUST SO YOU SEE THERE IS AMAN TAX GO ALL 99 20 14. THERE [00:25:01] IS ONE ERA, UH, THAT, UH, THE AUDITOR TALKED FOR ME THIS MORNING ON, UH, FUNDING YEAR, UH, FISCAL YEAR 20 0 7, 0 8, AND WE SAYS THE TOTAL IS, UH, 0.0565. THAT SHOULD BE CHANGED TO 0.5615. UH, BUT IF YOU WILL NOTE, UH, YOU, YOU'LL SEE HOW THE M AND O RATES HAVE CHANGED OVER THE YEARS, UH, AND THE INTEREST IN SINKING FUND RATE, THE, UH, THE BOND RATE THAT WE HAVE TO PAY. AND YOU'LL SEE THAT OUR BOND RATE FOR THIS NEXT YEAR IS PROPOSED TO BE 0.524 AS COMPARED TO 0.305 LAST YEAR. AND, UH, SO YOU CAN SEE THE TOTAL RATES THERE. UH, WE'VE NOT HAD AN ACTUAL TAX INCREASE. UH, ACTUALLY WE HAD A, UH, A TAX DECREASE BACK IN 2 0 0 6, 20 0 7, UH, WHICH WAS THE HIGHEST RATE AT THAT TIME FROM 0.5622. THE NEXT YEAR IT WAS FIVE 6.5. AND SO IF YOU GO DOWN TO WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING THIS YEAR, THAT WOULD BE THE FIRST INCREASE THAT WE'VE HAD, UH, IN THE KAMAN COUNTY OVERALL TAX RATE. NOW, THE VARIOUS RATES HAVE CHANGED. UH, VARIOUS FUND RATES HAVE CHANGED, BUT I THOUGHT YOU MIGHT FIND THAT INTERESTING. THE LAST TIME, UH, WE HAD THE COMMISSIONER, I KNOW YOU MENTIONED THIS A TIME OR TWO, ABOUT AN 11% RATE WE HAD WAS BACK IN NINE, 2000 AND 2000, 2001. THEN IT DROPPED TO TWO 2.10929. AND SO YOU CAN SEE IT'S, IT'S MOVED BACK AND FORTH. I DON'T, THERE'S A COUPLE YEARS WHERE IT STAYED THE SAME, BUT I JUST THOUGHT IT'D BE INTERESTING GOING TO SEE THIS, SEE HOW, HOW IT HAS CHANGED OVER THE YEARS. IT'S MY GOAL TO TRY TO GET IT BACK UP. IT'S NEAR THAT 11 SENTENCES. WE CAN POSSIBLY GET IT IN THE FUTURE IN ORDER TO REPAIR OUR ROADS THAT OUR CITIZENS ARE CONCERNED ABOUT, RIGHT? I THINK EVERYBODY WOULD NOT DO THAT. IT'S JUST, IT'S GONNA TAKE A LITTLE TIME, BUT PROBABLY DO THAT. SO, UH, REMIND THAT EVERYBODY, THAT MOST OF YOU STILL HAVE BOND MONEY. I KNOW, UH, SPEND THAT YOU, SOME OF YOU HAVE SPENT, SOME OF YOU HAVE NOT SPENT, BUT I KNOW YOU STILL HAVE SOME OF THAT MONEY. THE C TURS MONEY THAT WE GOT FROM THE STATE, I, I THINK IS GOING TO BE OKAY TO SPEND, YOU KNOW, WE GOT SOME INFORMATION FROM THAT LAST WEEK WHERE THE ATTORNEY GENERAL HAD ISSUED AN OPINION, BUT I THINK AFTER ALL THE LAWYERS LOOKED AT IT, THEY DECIDED THAT IT WAS GOING BE LEGAL TO SPEND THAT MONEY. AND I KNOW YOU'RE WORKING WITH A COUPLE OF PIPELINE COMPANIES THAT HAVE DONE DAMAGE. MR. SHANE, YOU HAVE, UH, ONE OAK, I THINK UP IN NORTHEAST PART OF THE COUNTY PLUS THE, UH, SEA SEAWAY PIPELINE. I THINK ALL OF YOU HAVE SEA WAVE. THAT'S SOMETHING WE NEED TO GET ON, IS I THINK WE ALL HAVE OUR ESTIMATES, UM, FOR THE DAMAGE. I THINK WE NEED TO APPROACH THEM PRETTY SOON. WE PROBABLY NEED TO TRY TO GET THEM TO COME IN FOR A WORKSHOP OR SOMETHING. SO I WAS IN CONTACT WITH THEM LAST WEEK AND THEY SAID THAT, UH, S THE FIRST WEEK OF SEPTEMBER, SOMEBODY'S SUPPOSED TO BE CONTACTING ME BECAUSE I TOLD HER I WAS TIRED AWAY, YOU KNOW, AND IT'S TIME TO MOVE ON. OF COURSE, THEY KEEP SAYING, WELL, WE'RE NOT THROUGH DOWN THERE. THEY'RE STILL MOVING MATS OUT, THIS AND THAT. BUT IT LOOKS AT ME LIKE BASICALLY SIMPLE, THEY DRAGGING OR SOMETHING. BUT ANYWAY, I'M GONNA AGGRAVATE IT UNTIL THEY DO SOMETHING. YEAH, I THINK IT'S TIME WE MOVE FORWARD, MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT TO, YOU KNOW, GET SOME MONEY BEFORE THEY CLEAR OUT OF THE COUNTRY. WELL, WE DO HAVE A PERFORMANCE BOND STILL. I'M NOT SURE IT'S GONNA BE LARGE ENOUGH TO TAKE CARE OF EVERYTHING, BUT, UH, AT LEAST WE CAN, WE CAN. I THINK JOHN SENT AN EMAIL SAYING THAT THE PROCESS THAT, UH, WE'RE NOT QUESTIONING WOULD BE FOR US TO MAKE OUR DEMANDS. AND ALL RIGHT, ITEM NUMBER NINE IS TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER APPOINTING CLAYTON KELLY AS THE VEHICLE FLEET POLICY MANAGER FOR CATON COUNTY. UH, CLAYTON AND I HAVE ISSUED, AND I THINK, UH, MAYBE SOME OF YOU HAVE, WE'VE GOT OUR FLEET POLICY THAT IS, UH, IT'S BEEN ADOPTED AND, UH, SO THERE ARE SOME AREAS IN THE FLEET POLICY I THINK THAT ALL OF US NEED TO BE BROUGHT UP TO DATE ON. AND, UH, CLAYTON, UH, IS, HAS DONE A GREAT JOB FOR US AND OUR VETERAN SERVICE OFFICER, HE HAS, I DON'T KNOW THAT IT WAS NECESSARILY A VOLUNTEER JOB, BUT HE CERTAINLY HAS AGREED TO HELP US MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS. SO I THINK HE WOULD, UH, BE A GOOD PERSON FOR US TO LOOK AT AS WE IMPLEMENT THIS, THIS POLICY TO GOTTA START SOMEWHERE, CLAYTON. SO DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU'D LIKE TO SAY? UH, WELL, YES, SIR. YOU MIND. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TRUST AND, UH, UH, UH, LOOKING AT ME FOR, UH, FOR, FOR THIS POSITION. AND I, AND I ASSURE YOU THAT [00:30:01] I'LL, I'LL, I'LL APPROACH YOU WITH THE SAME DEAL I HAD THE VETERAN SERVICE OFFICER. UH, AND THERE'S, IF, IF, IF, IF Y'ALL DO APPOINT ME TO DO THIS, I WOULD LIKE TO, UH, MAYBE MEET, YOU KNOW, ONCE EVERY, YOU KNOW, THREE MONTHS, GIVE AN UPDATE OF WHAT, YOU KNOW, WHAT I WANT TO DO. I'M, I MEET WITH MS. RUSSELL, UH, TO GET A, UH, UH, BASICALLY A, A PLAN FOR THIS COUNTY. WE CAN'T OF COURSE, DO WHAT TARRANT COUNTY'S DOING, BUT, UH, I THINK WE CAN DO, UH, SOMETHING ALONG THE SAME LINES. UH, IF, UH, IF WE WANT TO DO SOME WORKSHOPS, I WOULD LIKE TO GET WITH, UH, YOU KNOW, COMMISSIONERS AND, UH, YOU KNOW, GET, GET THAT, GET THAT ROLLING, AND THEN I KNOW, UH, YOU KNOW, ONCE WE CAN FIGURE OUT A PROGRAM WHERE WE CAN START REPLACING VERSUS, YOU KNOW, UH, YOU GUYS GETTING HIT WITH, YOU KNOW, HAVING THE VEHICLES, YOU KNOW, COME UP, GOING TO BE REPLACED WITHOUT EVEN KNOWING, YOU KNOW, UH, THAT'S EVEN HAPPENING. AND THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S KIND OF WHAT I WANT TO DO. UH, UH, OTHER THAN THAT, IF Y'ALL GOT ANY QUESTIONS ON WHAT, YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT I WANT TO START DOING, THEN I'LL, I'LL ENTERTAIN ANY QUESTIONS RIGHT NOW. PROPOSE WHAT KIND OF WE GONNA HAVE INTO IT THAT, UH, UH, WHEN YOU MAKE A DETERMINATION ON, ON THE GRILLINGS? WELL, THAT'S, UH, THE WAY I LOOK AT IT RIGHT NOW, I DON'T THINK I NEED TO BE THE PERSON MAKING THE DETERMINATIONS. I THINK I NEED TO PRESENT WHAT I FIND TO THE, TO THE, UH, I GUESS THE COURT COMMISSIONER COURT AND OR, UH, UH, SOME OTHER COMMITTEE. IF WE CAN GET A, UH, YOU KNOW, A COMMITTEE TOGETHER. I, I WANT TO DO MORE OF AN INFORMATIONAL, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, INFORMATION GATHERER FOR YOU GUYS VERSUS YOU GUYS BEING HIT EVERY YEAR WITH, WE NEED THESE VEHICLES REPLACED VERSUS, YOU KNOW, THOSE, THOSE VEHICLES. UH, AND THAT'S, THAT'S KIND OF THE WAY I'M LOOKING AT THAT. UH, UNLESS Y'ALL WANT SOMETHING DIFFERENT FROM ME. AND IF THAT'S THE CASE, THEN I REALLY NEED A SET OF GUIDELINES AND, AND WHAT Y'ALL EXACTLY WANT ME TO DO BEFORE WE GET STARTED THAT WAY, UH, I'M NOT GOING OFF IN THE WRONG DIRECTION AND YOU GUYS WANT ME TO GO THIS WAY. SO, UH, AND IF THAT'S, YOU KNOW, AND IF THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO DO, THEN THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO DO. BUT WHAT, WHAT I ASKED CLAYTON TO DO, TARRAN COUNTY THAT DID WITH US, AND YOU, I KNOW YOU'VE HAD SEVERAL CONVERSATIONS WITH IT, BECAUSE THEY STARTED KIND OF LIKE WE DID. THEY STARTED VERY, YOU KNOW, WITHOUT ANYTHING. AND SHE'S BEEN VERY GRACIOUS TO HELP US UP AT THIS POINT. I GUESS JUST TRY TO DETERMINE WHAT'S THE FIRST THING THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE. AND, UH, THAT'S KIND OF A THING I THINK HE WAS GONNA TRY TO DO, IS JUST GET US, GET US, GET US STARTED, AND THEN IT'S GOING TO BE A WORK IN PROGRESS FOR SEVERAL YEARS BEFORE WE'RE ABLE TO GET EVERYTHING LIKE WE'D LIKE OR TO BE SURE. YES, SIR. AND THAT'S, AND THAT'S CORRECT. THE VERY FIRST THING IS, UH, A HANDS-ON INFORMATION GATHERING, UH, UH, DEAL. EVERY, EVERY VEHICLE WE HAVE IS GONNA BE IN THIS PROGRAM. AND, UH, THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S THE BIGGEST THING THEN. THEN ONCE WE HAVE ALL OUR INFORMATION, THEN WE START REVIEWING DATA AND THEN, YOU KNOW, MAKE THE PROGRAM FROM THERE. THAT'S, THAT'S THE BIGGEST. AND IT IS, AND OTHER THING IS, I NEED TO KNOW FROM YOU GUYS WHAT Y'ALL EXACTLY EXPECT OF ME, UH, SET OF GUIDELINES AND SET OF PRODUCT UP, YOU KNOW, UH, SOP, SO TO SAY THAT WAY I'M NOT DOING THIS AND Y'ALL WANT TO DO THAT. AND MR. SEBASTIAN, I THINK THAT'S PRETTY GOOD. INVENTORY SHOULD BE UP TO DATE, GOOD SOURCE OF INFORMATION. AND I THINK I HAVE ALL THAT, ALL THAT OVER. SO CLAYTON, ARE YOU, ARE YOU PLANNING ON COMING TO THE, TO THE LOCATIONS AND INSPECTING THESE VEHICLES PERSONALLY, OR ARE YOU GOING TO, ARE YOU GOING TO COUNT ON THE REPORTS THAT THE COMMISSIONER'S GOING TO TURN IN? THEY KNOW WHAT THE DEADLINES APRIL 1ST FOR THE, FOR THE INSPECTIONS, FOR THE RECOMMENDATIONS , UH, ARE YOU GONNA WANT, IN OTHER WORDS, LIKE SAY A VEHICLE REPORTS, PRELIMINARY VEHICLE REPORTS NOW WHERE YOU CAN START GETTING FAMILIAR BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT GOING OUT AND INSPECTING THE TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF YES, SIR. AND, AND I, I HAVE BASICS AS FAR AS THE, THE AMOUNT OF VEHICLES AND THE TYPE OF VEHICLES WE HAVE, BUT I DON'T HAVE THE SPECIFICS AS FAR AS MILEAGE, UH, YOU KNOW, WHEN THEY'RE, HOW OLD THEY ARE, UH, YOU KNOW, THAT, THAT, THAT KIND OF THING. WHAT, WHAT KIND OF SHAPE THEY'RE IN, UH, IF THEY DID, YOU KNOW, IN THE SHOP, FOR INSTANCE, IF THEY'VE BEEN AN ACCIDENT, FOR INSTANCE, I DON'T, I DON'T HAVE ALL THAT INFORMATION. JUST REALLY THE BASICS, UH, YOU KNOW, TYPE OF VEHICLE THAT THEY HAVE AND THAT KIND OF THING. THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT I DO WANT TO DO. I WANT TO GO SEE EACH VEHICLE. I WANT TO, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, GET THE INFORMATION FROM EACH VEHICLE AND THAT'S, THAT'S GONNA BE TIME CONSUMING. BUT I THINK, UH, I THINK IT CAN BE DONE. I THINK IT'S REALLY THE ONLY WAY TO START, GET YOUR ARMS AROUND. IT'S ALMOST REFLECT IT, ALMOST READ THE ONLY THING YOU CAN DO. I THINK THIS, THIS IS GONNA BE A WORK IN PRACTICE. YEAH, CORRECT. FOR SOME TIME. [00:35:01] IF WE START TODAY WITH THIS APPOINTMENT, THEN IT'S GONNA BE, IF WE'RE GOING HAVE TO TWEAK THIS POLICY SEVERAL TIMES, SEVERAL AS WE GO. BUT I THINK THAT, UH, THIS WILL REALLY HELP OUR COMPETI POLICIES AND THINGS GOING ON. IT'LL GIVE US A BETTER HANDLE. AND I, AND I THINK IF I DO ASK A DEPARTMENT, FOR INSTANCE, FOR, HEY, CAN Y'ALL GET YOU THIS INFORMATION? EITHER A WILL HAVE TO WAIT ON, OR B, I MAY NOT GET EXACTLY WHAT I'M LOOKING FOR, SO IT'D BE EASIER JUST FOR ME TO GO OUT AND PHYSICALLY SEE THAT VEHICLE AND GET THE INFORMATION I NEED. THAT WAY I'M NOT SOMEBODY ELSE IN AND DO MY JOB. OKAY? THAT'S, THIS MAY TAKE A YEAR OR SO TO GET IN OPERATION BECAUSE RIGHT NOW WE'VE APPROVED THE POLICY AND WE'RE SUPPOSED TO GET GOOD ABOUT 30 OR 40 VEHICLES RIGHT NOW JUST ON MILEAGE. AND WE'RE NOT DOING THAT. SO I GUESS THAT WAS MY QUESTION, RIGHT WAY WE HAVE THIS POLICY, IF WE'RE NOT GONNA BE DOING SOMETHING ABOUT IT, OR TO REPLACE 34 VEHICLES IS GONNA TAKE A TREMENDOUS BUDGET CRUNCH. YES, SIR. SO DO WE NEED TO, AND THAT'S TWEAK THAT PART ON THERE, THAT WHAT I GUIDELINE, WELL, THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO DO. MAYBE SOME OF THOSE VEHICLES CAN GO TO A, A DIFFERENT SECTION OR A, YOU KNOW, LET'S JUST SAY SERVING WARRANTS FOR INSTANCE, INSTEAD OF REPLACING A VEHICLE, UH, AND THAT HITTING THE BUDGET HARD, THAT VEHICLE CAN GO TO WARRANT SERVICE OR SOMETHING ELSE AND THEN, UH, YOU KNOW, VERSUS VAN DE A BRAND NEW CAR. OR YOU CAN GO TO A DIFFERENT DEPARTMENT. YES, SIR. I THINK THE ASSIGNED VEHICLE, UH, POLICY IS GOING TO NET US A BUNCH OF VEHICLES. IF YOU DON'T, ACCORDING THIS, IF YOU DON'T USE A VEHICLE 40% OF YOUR WORK DAY, THEN YOU DON'T HAVE AN ASSIGNED VEHICLE, YOU VEHICLE OUT POOL, I THINK THAT WILL, THAT WILL PROBABLY NET US THOSE VEHICLES THAT WILL NOT HAVE TO BE REPLACED OR CAN SUBSTITUTE SOME OF THE ONES THAT SHOULD BE REPLACED. IT CHANGE THE MILEAGE IF IT'S UNSAFE. IF IT'S A HUNDRED, WAS IT 104,000 MILES? CAN YEAH. CHANGE THE MILEAGE? IT DOESN'T MAKE ANY DIFFERENCE WHETHER USING IT FOR DRIVING THE GROCERY STORE OR NOT. IT'S UNSAFE. SO MAYBE THE MILEAGE NEED TO BE CHANGED ON SOMETHING. BUT WE'VE GOT, YOU KNOW, I'VE GOT A LIST OF THE MILEAGE ON VEHICLES AND PATROL IS ONE THING THAT NEED TO BE LOOKED AT STRONG. I GUESS NUMBER ONE, THOSE VEHICLES NEED TO BE REPLACED AND WE DIDN'T PUT ANYTHING REPLACEMENT THAT, SO TWO AND, AND WHAT I'D LIKE TO SEE IF WE DON'T HAVE IT IN THE BUDGET, A PATROL CAR'S GOT 140,000 MILE AN NOISE CAN BE USED FOR SOMETHING ELSE VERSUS THAT PATROLLING ACTUALLY BEING OUT THERE ON THE STREET DRIVING THE HIGH, YOU KNOW, NOT THE HIGH SPEED THAT, YOU KNOW, THE VEHICLE'S NOT CONSIDERED SAFE, BUT, YOU KNOW, WE ALL HAVE DROVE VEHICLES WITH 140,000 MILES LOAN TO RUN ERRANDS OR TO DO VEHICLE DO THAT. THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT I'M KIND OF LOOKING FOR IS, YOU KNOW, LIKE A USED USED FOR SOMETHING ELSE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU P THANKS FOR VOLUNTEERING. QUESTION . I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPOINT P GUILTY. IS THERE ALL, I ALREADY HAVE A MOTION FROM SHANE. I'LL TAKE A SECOND. UH, MR. CLARK, ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. OPPOSED? ALRIGHT, LET'S GO BACK UP TO ITEM NUMBER THREE NOW, THE ONE THAT WE EARLIER IN MEETING. AND THAT IS TO HEAR FROM, UH, MR. KIM LANE WHO IS HERE TO DISCUSS WITH US, UH, THE, UH, PROJECT THAT HE'S DEVELOPED IN THE PRECINCT. THREE, UH, THE INFAMOUS, I GUESS ALMOST NINE. OH, SUBDIVISION. I KNOW YOU JUST SAVED THE EXCITEMENT FOR LAST JEAN, UH, JEANNIE, WOULD YOU LIKE TO COME UP AS WELL? UH, YOU NEED TO PRAISE ACT WITH, UH, OUR ENGINEERING FIRM. JENNY, I KNOW HAS WORKED THIS WEEKEND WITH, UH, UH, WITH MR. LANE OR ASHLEY LAST WEEK, AND THEN I THINK SOME THIS WEEKEND AS WELL. SO I THINK SHE HAS SOME, UH, RECOMMENDATIONS FAR AS WELL. SO WHICHEVER ONE OF YOU WOULD LIKE TO AHEAD PROBABLY, YOU WOULD PROBABLY NEED TO. MY NAME IS JENNY K I'M WITH COUNTY ASSOCIATES. I'M THE COUNTY'S, UH, CONSULTING CIVIL ENGINEER. AND, UM, WE'VE BEEN REVIEWING MR. LANE'S, UH, SUBJECT HERE, THE NINE RANCH. AND, UM, HAVE BEEN LOOKING AT IT THROUGH PRELIMINARY PLA APPROVAL AS WELL AS NOW THIS FINAL, FINAL PLA APPROVAL. AND I THINK THE LAST LAST ITEM WE HAVE IS A CONCERN, UH, WELL, LAST FEW ITEMS [00:40:01] WE HAD. THE LAST MAJOR ONE WAS THE CONTOUR. SO WE LOOK AT THE DRAINAGE AND, UM, WE RECEIVED A CONTRACT FROM MR. LANE THAT WE NEEDED TO LOOK AT. AND I BELIEVE SINCE THESE ARE GENERALLY THREE AND FOUR ACRE, LOTS OF, I THINK ONE SMALL ONE AND A HALF ACRE LOT, UM, THAT, AND IT'S ALL, UH, SINGLE FAMILY SUBDIVISION. THERE DO NOT BE ANY ROADS THAT THE SMALL AMOUNT OF IN THAT HE'LL BE ADDING BY, UM, BY BUILDING THESE HOUSES SHOULD NOT EVER AFFECT THE AREA. UM, WE'RE OKAY ON THE DRAIN. UM, THE ONE LAST THING THAT COMMISSIONER CLARK AND I BELIEVE COMMISSIONER SHANE HAS BROUGHT UP IS THE, UH, FLAG LOTS. IT'S GONNA BE THE REMAINDER THAT WILL HAVE THE LIMITED ACCESS THROUGH THOSE TWO SMALL ACCESS POINTS. ONE I BELIEVE IS 30 FEET AND ONE IS 65, WHICH IS LESS THAN THE COUNTY ALLOWANCE. IT IS JUST THE REMAINDER THAT'S CREATED BY THIS FINAL PLAT. HOWEVER, I THINK AS WE DISCUSSED LAST WEEK AND THE WEEK BEFORE THAT, THAT COULD POSSIBLY LEAD THAT REMAINDER TO NOT BE IN, IT DOESN'T MEET COUNTER. SO, UM, THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE FOUND. THOSE WERE OUR FINDINGS, AND IF THAT IS ACCEPTABLE MR. LANE AND TO THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT, THEN WE RECOMMEND ADDITIONAL APPROVAL BASED ON THAT. RECOMMEND, I'M SORRY, APPROVAL RECOMMENDATIONS. MS BLA, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING OR MS. SHANE PERMISSION? NO, I, WE GOT IT ALL WORKED OUT AND THAT SAME TAKEN CARE OF. I APPRECIATE IT, MR. BLA, UM, I WOULD ASK THAT, UM, THE AGENDA BE CORRECTED OR IF YOU HAVE, HE CAN MAKE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE, UH, VOTE ON THE PRIOR TO THE FINAL CLAP. THAT, THAT, THAT, I GUESS FOR YOUR DISCUSSION. I BELIEVE IN THE YES, WE HAVE EXCEPT PRELIMINARY AND THE FINAL AT THE SAME TIME WE HAVE, I, I HAVE YES. AGENDA THAT IN THE PAST, UH, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT MRS PROVIDED, AND I DON'T GUESS JOHN'S HAD A CHANCE TO LOOK AT THIS, I'M FAIRLY SURE YOU HAVEN'T HAD A CHANCE TO LOOK AT THIS, BUT, UH, AND I'VE PASSED A COPY OF IT OUT TO ALL OF YOU WHERE WE WOULD HAVE A CHECKLIST IN THE FUTURE, WHICH I THINK IS AN EXCELLENT IDEA THAT WE CAN, AND MAYBE HAVE A LITTLE WORKSHOP FOR ALL OF US THAT, THAT, UH, WILL SOMETIME THAT WOULD HELP AS WE ARE BEGINNING TO HAVE MORE AND MORE DEVELOPMENTS IN THE COUNTY, UH, THAT WILL APPLY TO THIS PARTICULAR THING. JOHN, I THINK I MADE A COPY OF THIS OVER ON THE DESK THERE. OKAY. UH, FOR YOU TO REVIEW. BUT, UH, IT'S JUST A CHECKLIST OF THINGS THAT HAVE TO BE DONE, UH, STARTING WITH THE CONCEPT PLAN THROUGH THE PRELIMINARY PLAT AND THE FINAL PLA. AND I APPRECIATE YOU, UH, PUTTING, PUTTING THAT TOGETHER. WHEN WE FIRST STARTED TALKING ABOUT THIS, UH, AND WATCHING ALL THE EMAILS THAT WENT BACK AND FORTH, I WAS CONCERNED THAT WE WERE LOOKING AT TWO DIFFERENT PLA AND, BUT I DON'T, I DON'T THINK YOU HAVE THE CURRENT PLATFORM, UH, REQUIREMENTS, WHICH ACTUALLY WERE ADOPTED WAY BACK IN 2006. UH, BUT THEY'RE THE ONES WE STILL HAVE. THEY MAY NEED TO BE REVIEWED AND, UH, BROUGHT UP TO DATE, ESPECIALLY WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS CHECKLIST PART PROBABLY NEEDS TO BE ADDED TO THAT AS WELL. UH, BUT, UH, UH, IS THAT CHECKLIST SOMETHING TO BE DISCUSSED OR IS THAT PUT IN PLACE AS OF TODAY? IT, NO, WE'LL HAVE TO HAVE IT ON THE AGENDA TO APPROVE THAT. MRS JUST GOT IT THIS MORNING, I GUESS FRIDAY LATE. AND SO, UH, THERE HAS BEEN A LOT OF DISCUSSION ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR PIECE OF PROPERTY AND NOBODY'S TRYING TO SLOW DOWN, UH, DEVELOPMENT. I THINK EVERYBODY'S TRYING TO MOVE AHEAD. I KNOW YOU'VE GOT SOME, UH, OTHER PROPERTIES IN THE COUNTY THAT YOU ARE DEVELOPING OR PLANNING ON DEVELOPING. UH, IT'S JUST THAT WE'VE BEEN THROUGH A PERIOD OF TIME HERE WHERE WE'VE NOT HAD A LOT OF DEVELOPMENT, AND SO NOW WE'RE BEGINNING TO SEE INCREASE ON THAT. UH, COMMISSIONER, DO YOU HAVE, UH, HAVE QUESTIONS IF, IF YOU DO DECIDE TO PROVE THIS? I WOULD, UH, GO AHEAD AND RECOMMEND THAT WE UPDATE THE, UH, UH, THE, UH, AGENDA TO DISCUSS CONSIDERING, UH, APPROVING THE PRELIMINARY AND FINAL PLA FOR NINE OH SUB SUBDIVISION, UH, RANCH SUBDIVISION IN COUNTY. DO WE HAVE COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS, JUDGE? MR. YES. IF, IF I COULD COULD ADD TO THAT. NOT, UM, BECAUSE I KNOW THAT THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE HAS, HAS A TIME PERIOD BETWEEN THE PRELIMINARY AND THE FINAL. AND SO IF YOU'RE GOING TO MAKE A MOTION THAT YOU HAVE BOTH, UM, I, I SUGGEST HAVING TO THAT MOTION THAT ANY, UH, TIME PERIOD DELIGHTED BETWEEN THE PRELIMINARY AND FINAL IS, HAS BEEN CONSIDERED IN WA THE PRELIMINARY PLAT, BECAUSE OUR SUBJECTION STATES EXACTLY WHAT JOHN SAID, THAT YOU CAN'T ACCEPT A FINAL PLAT [00:45:01] UNTIL THE PRELIMINARY PLAN'S BEEN APPROVED. SO WE CAN'T ACCEPT IT UNTIL AFTER, UNTIL TODAY. WE'VE ACCEPT IT TODAY AND THEN WE HAVE TO HAVE A 21 DAY BEFORE WE APPROVAL. I THOUGHT WE ACCEPTED IT BACK ON JULY THE 28TH. UH, JULY 28TH, WE, WE DID ACCEPT THE PRELIMINARY PLAN, SO WE ACCEPTED THE PRELIMINARY CLASS. WE CAN'T APPROVE THE PRELIMINARY PLAN YEAH. TODAY BECAUSE THAT'S BEEN 21 DAYS, BUT WE CAN'T EVEN ACCEPT THE FINAL PLA UNTIL PRELIMINARY PLATS BEEN APPROVED. JUDGE, THAT THAT WAS APPROVED, BOTH OF THOSE WERE APPROVED ON THE SAME DAY FOR WINE AND THREE BRANCH. YEAH, WE, WE DID. IN THE CONS, MR. LANE SAID, WE'VE DONE THREE OR FOUR SUBDIVISIONS RECENTLY AND ALL 'EM DID WRONG ACCORDING TO OUR SUBJECT REGULATIONS. AND I CAN SEE SETTING HERSELF UP FOR SOME LAWSUITS IF WE DON'T FOLLOW OURSELVES REGULATIONS IF WE'VE DONE IT IN THE PAST. EXACTLY LIKE MR. BECAUSE I THINK WHEN YOU CAME IN HAD SOME BAD INFORMATION GIVEN TO YOU THAT YOU THOUGHT YOU COULD DO ALL THAT. NO SIR. YOU DIDN'T. NO, SIR. NO. THESE ARE SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS THAT I'M AWARE OF. I KEEP WITH THEM EVERY DAY. MM-HMM . THIS IS MY BUSINESS. YEAH. AND SO I'M VERY FAMILIAR WITH THIS. AND SO WE DO HAVE LOTS OF QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS AND, UH, IF YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH, WHY DID YOU NOT FOLLOW THE 4.26 THEN 4.26 AND THEN 4.36. WELL, THE TIMEFRAME IN, IN REFERENCE TO 4.26, YOU HAD THE PRELIMINARY FLAT, YOU APPROVED IT, UH, AND YOU, YOU ACCEPTED IT ON THE 20, UH, EIGHTH OF LAST MONTH. YOU HAD IT ALMOST 30 DAYS. YES, SIR. YES, SIR. THAT'S WHAT I WAS GOING BY, THAT WE ACCEPTED IT. I GUESS THE QUESTION COMES IF ACCEPTANCE MAY APPROVAL. NO, YOU HAVE HAVE 21, JENNY. YOU WHAT, WHAT DAY DID YOU PRESENT IT TO THE COMMISSIONERS AND FOR, UH, ACCEPTANCE COMMISSIONER SHANE? REMEMBER IT WAS A SPECIAL SESSION THAT YOU BROUGHT OVER AND YOU GAVE EVERYONE A COPY OF THE FINAL PLAN. I CAN'T REMEMBER. WE, WE DID IT. SO IT WOULD BE 21 DAYS PRIOR TO THIS MEETING. WE DID THAT. THE PRELIMINARY PLAN? NO, THE FINAL PLAN. YOU'VE HAD THE PRELIMINARY PLAN. IT WASN'T ON OUR AGENDA TO, EXCEPT THE FINAL PLAN UNTIL TODAY. I'LL MAKE OUT THE AGENDA. SIR, MY INFORMATION I LIKE SAYS FOLLOW RULES. WOULD IT HURT YOU TO WAIT 21 DAYS TO GET YES, SIR. IT WOULD. YES SIR. IT WOULD. YEAH. AND, AND ON THAT AND ON THAT SUBJECT, I, YOU KNOW, I WOULD LIKE TO THINK THE LAST THREE SUBDIVISIONS THAT, UH, THAT I HAD BROUGHT BEFORE THE COURT, THEY'VE BEEN APPROVED. THEY WERE ALL UNDER THE NEW GUIDELINES OF USING US GEOLOGICAL SURVEY INFORMATION OR THE NORTH CENTRAL TEXAS COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENTS, UH, INFORMATION, THE DATA, UH, AS TAKEN CARE OF THE REQUIRED TOPO. THE, UH, 4.2 0.8 SAYS PRELIMINARY PLATS SHALL SHOW OR BE ACCOMPANIED BY THE FOLLOWING INFORMATION. AND THERE'S A LIST THERE OF ITEMS AND INCLUDING IN THAT LIST IS SECTION NUMBER F, WHICH SAYS EXISTING CONTOUR LINES AT THE FOLLOWING INTERVAL. IS THAT CORRECT? THAT IS THE ONLY INFORMATION IN THE ENTIRE SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS REGARDING CONTOUR LINES THAT ARE REQUIRED. DO YOU KNOW OF ANY OTHER ONES IN THIS? OKAY, WELL, MY QUESTION BECOMES NOT QUESTION. WELL, I AM, THIS, THIS IS MY QUESTION IS BECAUSE I RECEIVED AN EMAIL FROM THE ENGINEERS OFFICE THAT THAT HAS COME FROM A, A LINE OF EMAILS THAT WENT THROUGH JUDGES', UH, EMAILS AS WELL. AND IT SAYS, MR. LANE, THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT HAS DETERMINED THAT THE CONTOURS MUST BE SHOWN ON THE PRELIMINARY PLAT ITSELF, NOT AS AN ATTACHED MAP. AND THE CONTOURS MUST BE REVIEWED BY THE COUNTY ENGINEER PRIOR TO RECOMMENDING APPROVAL. NOW, MY QUESTION IS, DID COMMISSIONER'S COURT DETERMINE THAT? DID THAT TAKE PLACE IN A SEPARATE MEETING? BECAUSE I'M NOT AWARE OF ANY OF THAT. I'M SORRY THAT EMAIL WAS FROM ME. I MIGHT HAVE MISSPOKEN. THAT WAS BASED OFF OF, UM, TELEPHONE COMMUNICATION I HAD WITH REGARD TO COMMISSIONER CLARK AND COMMISSIONER WHEN I RECEIVED THIS EMAIL. AND THAT WAS DATED THE 15TH OF AUGUST. I IMMEDIATELY WENT TO COMMISSIONER SHANE TO TRY TO GET CLARIFICATION. WE READ THROUGH THE PLANNING PROCEDURE AND WERE, IT WAS AN EASY ONE SENTENCE TO DETERMINE THAT THAT'S NOT CORRECT. HE SUGGESTED I GO TALK TO JUDGE WOOD. I DID. I CAME TO YOUR OFFICE. WE HAD A DISCUSSION ABOUT THESE. IT WAS A, I THINK WE RESOLVED IT THAT I HAD ADHERED TO THESE REGULATIONS. ANY [00:50:01] EVEN A SUGGESTION THAT I CALL, CALL YOU COMMISSIONER CLARK. I DID. SO WITH YOUR, WITH YOUR CELL PHONE, HE GAVE ME YOUR CELL PHONE NUMBER. I LEFT YOU A LENGTHY MESSAGE AFTER YOU RETURNED MY CALL JUST SO WE COULD CLARIFY EVERYTHING ON THIS. I NEVER RECEIVED A CALL BACK FROM YOU. I THOUGHT WE HAD GOT THIS ALL CORRECTED AT THAT POINT. SO IMAGINE MY FRUSTRATION WITH FRIDAY THREE DAYS AGO. I GET A CALL FROM THE ENGINEER STATING THAT THEY COULDN'T APPROVE IT BECAUSE THEY HAD NOT RECEIVED THIS REQUIRED TOPO. AND AGAIN, I THOUGHT IT HAD BEEN COMPLETELY, UH, RESOLVED. SO IF YOU, IF YOU WANNA HOLD ME TO EVERY PARTICULAR PIECE OF THE FLAG PROCEDURE, I'M GONNA HOLD YOU TO THE SAME THING AS WELL. AND I DON'T KNOW IF THE MISCOMMUNICATION HAPPENED BETWEEN YOU AND THE, THE ENGINEER, BUT SOMEBODY MISCOMMUNICATED THERE AND THAT'S RESULTING IN THIS EMAIL. AND IT'S CAUSED ME A GREAT DEAL OF TIME AND A LOT OF MONEY DURING THE LAST TWO WEEKS TO TRY TO RESOLVE THIS. ON JULY 22ND, I BELIEVE YOU WERE SENT A LETTER FROM MS. RAZAK HERE, SAID, RECOMMEND ADDITIONAL APPROVAL. THE PROPOSED PRELIMINARY PLA WITH THE UNDERSTANDING REQUIRED CONT THAT PROVIDE PRIOR TO MR. THAT'S CORRECT. AND THAT WAS NEVER PROVIDED. WAIT, WHAT I WANT THE ACTUAL APPROVAL LETTER. WHAT, WHAT, LET'S FORGET ABOUT THAT. I, I WANT TO FOLLOW THAT, THE TIMEFRAME. WELL, AS DO I, BUT I ALSO WANT TO FOLLOW THE PROCEDURES COMPLETELY AND THAT'S WHERE I'M ASKING, I'M BEING ASKED TO, TO COMPLY WITH A COMMISSIONER'S COURT HAS DETERMINED THE CONTOURS MUST BE SHOWN ON THE PRELIMINARY PLAT. IT'S NOWHERE IN THE SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS. NOWHERE. AND I REALIZE IT'S A COMMUNICATION, BUT THE PROBLEM HAS TO ORIGINATE FROM YOU. YOU ORIGINATED THIS INQUIRY AS TO THE TIMEFRAME ON THIS . I WAS LOOKING AT THE LETTER THAT WAS SENT TO YOU, THE CONDITIONAL APPROVAL LETTER, AND YOU'VE HAD THE CONTOURS FOR ALMOST A MONTH. NOW, JEAN, MAY I, I OBJECT. I'M SORRY. THE, UM, THE CONTOURS NEED TO BE SENT TO THE ENGINEER, THE, THE COMMISSIONERS THAT THAT'S GREAT, BUT THEY'RE, THEY'RE NOT THE ENGINEERS. THEY NEED TO BE SENT TO ME. AND AS WE TOLD YOU ON FRIDAY, IT SAID WE CAN GET THEM ON PDF, WE CAN GET THEM ATTACHED TO THE PLAT. WE CLARIFIED THAT FRIDAY. IT'S, UM, IT DOES SAY THAT IT CAN BE AS PART OF THE PLAT OR AS AN ATTACHED MAP. WE JUST ASKED THAT THE PROPERTY ITSELF COULD CLEARLY SHOWN ON THOSE CONTOURS. IT NOT JUST THE, THE COG MAP THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT COVERS, UH, ONCE A MILE COUNTY. SO IT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT THAT SAYS. IT ALSO ACTUALLY ASK FOR PROPOSED CONCOURSE. IT'S GONNA GONNA ASK US TO STICK TO THE NITTY GRITTY WORD BY WORD. AND WE HAVE NOT ASKED FOR THOSE BECAUSE YOU ARE A LARGE SUBDIVISION THAT HAS FOUR YEAR LOTS. BUT IF YOU'RE GONNA ASK THE COUNTY TO GET DOWN TO THE NITTY GRITTY, WE CAN ASK FOR THOSE AS WELL. VERY GOOD. AND IT ALSO SAYS SO TO THE KAMAN COUNTY COMMISSIONER, EVERY LANGUAGE IN HERE IS ALL INFORMATION SUBMITTED TO THE COURT, NOT DIRECTLY TO THE ENGINEER. SO I REALIZE YOU WANT THAT, BUT IT HAS TO COME FROM THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT. 'CAUSE THAT'S WHERE IT'S ASKED FOR THESE REGULATIONS COMPLETELY. IT'S VERY, VERY SIMPLE TO INTERPRET. WOULDN'T INTERPRET WHAT OUR ENGINEER SAYS. IT'S OKAY. I'M NOT ENGINEER, I'M ASSUMING IT'S OKAY. SO SHE SAYS IT'S FINE, THEN I'M BACK. I BELIEVE YOU RECOMMENDED PROOF. AS LONG AS WE HAVE THE CONTROVERSY, WE JUST HADN'T SEEN THOSE CONTROVERSY. THAT'S COMP UNTIL THIS MORNING. THAT'S THE CONVERSATIONS WE HAVE HAD IN THE LAST FEW WEEKS IS THAT WE HAVE NOT SEEN THIS. YOUR RIGHT, YOU JUST SAID IF THE COMMISSIONER, IF THE ENGINEER RECOMMENDS IT, THEN WE'RE GOOD WITH IT. THE PROBLEM IS SHE JUST SAID THERE'S A MISCOMMUNICATION AND THIS EMAIL IS A MISCOMMUNICATION. THEREFORE, IF SHE SAYS THIS IN AN EMAIL OR YOU JUST GONNA SAY THAT'S WHAT IT SAYS, THAT'S MY, THAT'S MY WHOLE POINT IS IF YOU'RE HOLDING ALL DEVELOPERS TO STICK TO THIS, WHICH I THINK I HAVE, THIS IS MY FOURTH SUBDIVISION THAT'S BEEN BEFORE THE COURT, I EXPECT THAT FROM YOU AS WELL. AND BY HAVING THIS TYPE OF, OF REQUIREMENT THAT'S NOT ANYWHERE IN THE PLANNING PROCEDURE, IT DOES COST A GREAT DEAL OF TIME AND A GREAT DEAL OF MONEY TO TRY TO RESOLVE IT, WHICH I DID. AND EVEN TO A POINT OF TRYING TO CALL YOU TO WORK OUT ANY PROBLEM YOU STILL HAVE WITH IT. I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM. SHE APPROVES IT. JOHN, DO YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS BEFORE WE MOVE FORWARD? UM, ONE THING THAT OCCURRED TO ME IS THAT IT SEEMS LIKE LANGUAGE BECOMES CONFUSING WHEN IT SAYS BETWEEN ACCEPT AND A PROBE, BUT IT SEEMS LIKE ACCEPT JUST BECOMES SUBMIT. AND A PROBE SEEMS TO BE THE FORMAL ACT OF THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT. THAT THAT KIND OF THE MAGIC WAND THAT YOU ARE RECOGNIZED AND THAT'S JUST AN AFTER THE FACT THAT DIDN'T RESOLVE THIS ISSUE. BUT IS, IS THE ENGINEER SAYING THAT SHE HAS SEEN THE, THE TOPO THAT'S SUFFICIENT FOR THAT? YES. I, I HAVE NOT SEEN THE TOPO AND I'M, I'M COMFORTABLE WITH, WITH WHAT HAS BEEN SUBMITTED AND I'M READY TO, EXCUSE ME, I'M READY TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL FROM ENGINEER. YOU'RE READY TO GET IT OVER WITH. I THINK , [00:55:01] THAT, THAT DOES HELP . ALRIGHT. UH, I'M, I'M READY TO, UH, ASK FOR THE QUESTION, BUT I WANNA MAKE SURE THOUGH THAT IF WE DO, UH, APPROVE THIS, JOHN, THAT WE PUT IT IN THE CONTEXT THAT YOU THINK WE SHOULD DO. SO HELP US OUT ON THAT. I, IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING BASED ON WHAT MR. LANE SAID THAT ON JULY 28TH, THERE WAS JUNE, MY PREVIOUS SUBDIVISION WAS, THE PRELIMINARY PLAT WAS APPROVED IMMEDIATELY BEFORE THE FINAL PIPE APPROVED. HOLD A DIFFERENT SUBDIVISION ON A DIFFERENT SUBDIVISION THIS YEAR UNDER THE SAME, UH, PLAING PROCEDURE. BUT ON JULY THE 28TH, WE DID ACCEPT THE PRELIMINARY PLA FROM HIM AT THAT POINT IN TIME. BUT IT DID NOT HAVE THE CONTRE. OH NO, IT DID. IT DID. ABSOLUTELY. IT WAS, IT WAS SUBMITTED THE SAME DAY. SO YOU HAD NOT SEEN IT. OKAY. WE ACCEPTED IT, BUT TODAY WE'RE APPROVED. YES. IF WE DO, I'D LIKE TO MOTION APPROVE THE PRELIMINARY. OKAY. WELL LET, LET'S LET JOHN, BUT YOU'RE SAYING THE PRELIMINARY PLAT FOR THE NINE OH SUBDIVISION HAD ALREADY BEEN TENDER HAD IT BEEN ACCEPTED? THE, IT'S BEEN ACCEPTED. OKAY. THE AGENDA FOR THE 20, UH, MEETING FROM LAST MONTH, UH, WAS ORIGINALLY STATED TO, TO VOTE APPROVAL ON THE PRELIMINARY PLAT. I BELIEVE YOURSELF MADE THE MOTION TO CHANGE IT TO ACCEPTING THE PLAT. 'CAUSE I HAD TO WAIT ANOTHER 21 DAYS, WHICH I'VE DONE, UH, KNOWING THAT IN THE PAST YOU'VE APPROVED BOTH A PRELIMINARY PLAT AND A FINAL PLAT AT THE SAME MEETING. AND SO I BELIEVE YOU CAN READ INTO THE, UH, THE MINUTES. THAT WAS WHAT I ADDRESS. THAT'S FINE. AS LONG AS THE NEXT MEETING, ONCE I WAIT THE 21 DAYS, I'LL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO BOTH OF 'EM. WE MAKE A MISTAKE AND WE DID THIS BEFORE. SHOULD WE REPEAT THE SAME STATEMENT AGAIN? WELL, THERE'S NUMEROUS MISTAKES THAT HAVE BEEN MADE. I'M, I'M JUST ASKING THAT TO BE HELD THE SAME BECAUSE WE CAN'T UNWIND THIS. WELL, YOU'RE SAYING THE PRELIMINARY OF OF THE NINE. OH. WHICH IS A DIFFERENT SUBDIVISION. I MEAN, GREAT. THAT'S ALREADY BEEN, IT WAS ACCEPTED 28 DAYS AGO. AND THE COURT HAS ALSO RECEIVED THE FINAL PLAT. COMMISSIONER SAN PRESENTED THAT TO EACH MEMBER OF THE COURT AT A, IN A PREVIOUS MEETING AS WELL. OKAY. I I I THINK WHAT YOU CAN DO IS BREAK IT OUT IS TWO THINGS FOR PRELIMINARY PLAT APPROVAL, A FINAL PLAT APPROVAL AND WAIVING ANY CONSIDERATION OF DAYS, UH, BETWEEN THE PRELIMINARY AND THE FINAL. I MEAN, IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU HAVE THE RECOMMENDATION FROM THE ENGINEER THAT SHE IS SATISFIED THAT YOU INFORMATION NECESSARY. I, I AGREE TO THAT. OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR. DO YOU STILL WANT TO PURSUE THAT MOTION? I LIKE TO APPROVE THIS PRELIMINARY PLA. OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER CLARK TO APPROVE THE PRELIMINARY PLA WE HAVE SET, UH, WE HAVE A SECOND MR. MAN. UH, ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. THOSE. ALRIGHT. NOW THE ITEM ON THE, UH, THE SECOND PART OF THE AGENDA IS THE, UH, APPROVING THE FINAL PLAT AS PRESENTED THIS MORNING BY THE ENGINEERING FIRM AND BY, UH, UH, MR. LANE. AND, UH, PART OF THAT MOTION SHOULD BE TO WAIVE THE DAYS THAT, UH, IN THIS PARTICULAR INCIDENT, TYPICALLY BETWEEN THE APPROVAL OF PRE PRELIMINARY. OKAY. DO I HAVE A MOTION IN THAT? WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER SHANE, UH, TO APPROVE PRELIMINARY, I MEAN, SORRY, THE FINAL FLAT AND, UH, THE WAIVE THAT DAYS THAT WERE LISTED IN, WE WILL NEVER, EVER LET THIS HAPPEN AGAIN. YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOTTA MOVE, WE'VE GOTTA GET THESE, THESE UH, UH, CHECKLISTS I THINK APPROVED AND, AND REVIEWED. MAKE SURE WE FOLLOW THIS SO THERE'S NO CONFUSION ON ANYBODY'S PART. SO WE HAVE A MOTION TO I HAVE A SECOND. SECOND. WE HAVE A SECOND COMMISSIONER. FURTHER DISCUSSION. I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY RECORD UNLESS ACCEPTING THE FINAL WON. MAKE A NOTE OF THAT. AND WE SHOULD ACCEPT THE FINAL PLA BEFORE WE CAN APPROVE THE FINAL PLA AND THE 21 DAYS. IT'S BEEN WAIVE BEFORE THE JOB DIVERSIFICATION RIGHT THERE. UH, I CAN TELL YOU THAT THERE'S BEEN A MAINTENANCE SET RIGHT THERE AND THREATEN US WITH A SUIT FOR NOT ALLOWING SOMETHING SIMILAR THAT'S GOING ON AND IT'S GONNA COME BACK. SO Y'ALL JUST GET READY FOR IT. OKAY. OTHER COMMENTS? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. THOSE OPPOSED? NO. OKAY. WE HAVE THREE AYES AND ONE NOTE. MOTION CARRIED AND WE WILL MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS [01:00:01] AND LET'S GET WORK ON THESE AS SOON. AND, UH, ALL RIGHT, LET'S TAKE ABOUT A 10 MINUTE BREAK AND THEN WE'LL COME BACK AND APPROVE THE LINE TRANSFERS AND WE'LL LOOK AT THE LINE ITEM TRANSFER, DISCUSS ITEM NUMBER 10, WHICH IS TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER LINE ITEM TRANSFER. UH, ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OVER THE LINE? ITEM TRANSFER JUSTICE. WE GOT SOME ADDITIONAL FUNDING FROM THE, THE GOVERNOR ON MURDER, SO THAT'S WHY WE HAD TO BUDGET TO ADDRESS ALL THOSE LINE ITEMS. WE JUST ALL SETTLE. MM-HMM . I MIGHT ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE. SO MAY HAVE A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER SHANE. A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER ON THE AYE. AYE. MOTION CARRIED. AND ITEM NUMBER 11 IS TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER PLAINTIFFS FOR PAYMENT. ALRIGHT, YOUR CLAIMS FOR PAYMENT AMOUNT TO $678,830 AND 13 CENTS. THE UH, $9,010,000 PAYMENT FOR THE EAST LAKES IS INCLUDED IN THE BID PACKAGE. WE RECEIVED A LETTER FROM, UH, THE TAX ASSESSOR COLLECTOR APOLOGIZING, SAYING THAT WON'T HAPPEN IN THE FUTURE. AND POLICY, NOTHING HAS CHANGED THE JUDGE CALL THURSDAY. I DON'T NEED SAY, WELL, IF YOU REMEMBER, YOU SAID THAT WAS OKAY. JUST [01:05:58] VERY PAGE. I THINK THAT'S WHERE THE, I'M NOT SURE ABOUT THAT. I THINK THAT'S WHAT IT DID. THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE, THIS IT. IT'S THE SAME THING AS THE, IT MAY BE A YOU THAT TAX YOU GO, THOUGHT ABOUT IT. SAT DOWN AND GOT OVER. THANK YEAH. INSIDE SOMETHING. THEN YOU [01:10:47] I DECIDED TO UP JUST BE SURE. OFFICE, SPACE, ROOM. THAT ONE PERSON. ALRIGHT, THERE YOU GO. THAT'S ALL. JUDGE. A MOTION TO CHAIR. COMMISSIONER LIK MAKES THAT MOTION TO BE A SECOND. YES SIR. COMMISSIONER SHANE SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. A. THOSE OPPOSED. LEAVE A MOTION TO ADJOURN ALL A COMMISSIONER MANNING MAKES A MOTION. SECOND COMMISSIONER, SECOND. MOTION. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY A. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.