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UH, WE HAVE SIGN IN SHEET FOR YOU THERE IF YOU'D LIKE TO ADDRESS THE COURT HEARING, JUST A FEW MOMENTS AT THE BEGINNING OF OUR MEETING.
AND THEN WE'LL BE CONDUCTING TWO PUBLIC HEARINGS AS WELL THIS MORNING.
AND SO YOU'LL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK AT AT THOSE HEARINGS IF YOU DESIRE TO DO SO.
WE'LL BEGIN THIS MORNING WITH OUR INVOCATION, AND I'VE ASKED COMMISSIONER MANNING TO DO THAT.
THEN WE'LL HAVE THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE, UH, BOTH FOR FLAG, UH, FLAGS, AND WE'LL HAVE REMARKS.
MOST GRACIOUS, HEAVENLY FATHER, WE THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY TO COME TOGETHER AND DO THE BUSINESS OF THE COUNTY.
LORD, WE WOULD ASK YOU TO WATCH OVER ALL THE LEADERS IN OUR GOVERNMENT, WATCH OVER OUR SOLDIERS WHO ARE PROTECTING OUR FREEDOM.
GIVE US THE WISDOM AND THE STRENGTH TO CARRY ON AND, UH, FINISH UP WHAT WE GOT STARTED.
AND, UH, THANK FOR THE RAIN WE'VE HAD.
WE COULD USE A LITTLE MORE AMEN FLAG, UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVIDUAL, WHICH LIBERTY, JUSTICE FOR ALL, HONORING THE FLAG ALLEGIANCE TO THE ONE STATE GOD, ONE AND INDIVIDUAL.
YOU ALL RIGHT? WE HAVE, UH, ONE PERSON THAT'S SIGNED UP TO ADDRESS THE COURT.
PETER, IF YOU COME FORWARD HERE TO THE MICROPHONE AND PETER, UH, WOULD LIKE TO TALK TO US A LITTLE THAT AT THE SPRINGS AREA, I BELIEVE, AND WOULD LIKE TO TALK TO US ABOUT THE BOND ISSUE.
COMMISSIONERS, UH, MY CONCERNS ABOUT THE ROAD BOND ISSUE THAT WAS PASSED AND, UH, WHEN THE MEETINGS WERE HELD FOR THIS, THERE WAS A NUMBER OF THINGS.
FIRST OF ALL, UH, THERE'S A TAX INCREASE COMING ON THAT I THINK NOW, AND PROBABLY ANOTHER ONE COMING TWO OR THREE YEARS ON THAT SAME ISSUE.
AND FROM WHAT I CAN SEE, THE VAST MAJORITY OF THAT IS GOING TO FUND STATE AS WELL AS COUNTY PROJECTS.
AND IN THE MEANTIME, OUR COUNTY ROADS, ESPECIALLY OUT IN RURAL AREAS, ARE, I MEAN, ARE IN JUST THE AFFORDABLE CONDITIONS.
UM, THE EXTRA MONEY THAT WAS GIVEN TO THESE COMMISSIONERS TO HELP IMPROVE THAT SITUATION WILL MAKE VERY LITTLE OF ANY DIFFERENCE AT ALL.
AND THAT $54 MILLION THAT BOND ISSUE WAS PASSED FOR IF IT WERE SPENT JUST ON COUNTY ISSUES.
UM, MY WAY OF FIGURING WE COULD HAVE RESURFACED APPROXIMATELY 1200 MILES OF COUNTY ROADS.
BUT WHAT WE'RE SEEING RIGHT NOW IS NOTHING BUT JUST PATCHES ON TOP OF PATCHES ON TOP OF PATCHES AND EVERYBODY'S OUT OF MONEY.
UH, I WOULD JUST LIKE A LITTLE EXPLANATION OF WHAT'S REALLY GONNA BE DONE, UM, TO IMPROVE THE COUNTY ROADS SITUATION.
WE ARE NOT ABLE TO RESPOND DURING THIS OPENING SESSION.
WE'LL BE HAVING A HEARING ON THE BUDGET HERE IN JUST A FEW MOMENTS, AND YOU CERTAINLY CAN, UH, ADDRESS THAT AT THAT TIME.
AND THEN WE CAN GIVE YOU PROBABLY A LITTLE BETTER EXPLANATION.
IS KATHY MORRIS HERE THIS MORNING? OKAY.
UH, WE'LL CATCH KATHY HERE IN A LITTLE BIT.
UM, THE NEXT ITEM IS THE CONSENT AGENDA, AND I'LL READ THROUGH THOSE, UH, ACCEPTANCE OF THE BENCH FROM JULY THE 28TH, UH, AUGUST THE 11TH AND AUGUST 20TH, 2014.
ITEM B IS TO DISCUSS, CONSIDER APPROVING DE OF COUNTY DISTRICT CLERK'S.
OFFICE IC IS TO DISCUSS, CONSIDER ACCEPTING A PROJECT
ITEM E IS THE, UH, REPORT FROM LO REDOCK WILLIAMS, UH, FOR THE CHILDREN'S SHELTER,
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UH, FOR THE MONTH OF, UH, MAY, JUNE, JULY.AND THEN ITEM F IS THE DISCUSSION AND ANY CONSIDERATION OF PROCLAIMING THE MONTH OF SEPTEMBER AS NATIONAL PREPAREDNESS MONTH IN CALL COUNTY.
AND YOU HAVE COPIES OF ANY OF THOSE IN YOUR FOLDER.
ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT ANY OF THOSE ITEMS? NOT ON MOTION TO ACCEPT THAT IT'S PRESENTED.
SO MAY HAVE A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER MANNING.
THE NEXT ITEM ON OUR AGENDA IS TO HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING, UH, TO CONSIDER, UH, OR TO RECEIVE INPUT FROM THE PUBLIC REGARDING THE PROPOSED PROPERTY TAX RATE FOR 2014 TAX YEAR FOR KAMAN COUNTY.
I'D ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ENTER INTO THAT PUBLIC HEARING.
SO DO, UH, COMMISSIONER CLARK MAKE THAT MOTION? DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND.
UH, WE NOW WILL BEGIN THE PUBLIC HEARING ON THE, UH, PROPOSED TAX RATE, UH, FOR THIS NEXT YEAR.
AND AS HAS ALREADY, UH, BEEN MENTIONED, UH, DURING THE OPENING PART OF THE MEETING, UH, WE WILL BE SEEING AN INCREASE THIS YEAR IN OUR PROPERTY TAXES BY 0.20 CENTS, OR ALMOST 2 CENTS.
EVERY BIT OF THAT GOES TO PAYING, UH, THE BONDED DEBT THAT WE, THAT THE VOTERS APPROVED BY 66% LAST NOVEMBER.
AND ON THE BACK PAGE, I'VE STAPLED TO THE DOCUMENT THAT WAS LISTED THAT WAS ON THE TABLE.
YOU'LL NOTICE THAT OUR PROPOSED TAX RATE FOR THIS NEXT YEAR WILL BE 0.5762.
UH, THE, UH, BREAKDOWN ON THAT FOR OUR MAINTENANCE AND OPERATION TAX RATE, WHICH IS OUR LARGEST FUND, IS, UH, POINT IS 0.45 CENTS.
UH, THE INTEREST IN SINKING RATE IN LOW INCREASED, UH, FROM LAST YEAR, UH, BY, UH, FROM 0.0 OR 0.305 TO 0.01, I'M SORRY, 0.524.
THAT IS TO MEET THE DEBT OBLIGATIONS.
AS I SAID IN THE MEETING WE HAD LAST WEEK ON THE ADOPTION OF THE TAX RATE, THAT'S JUST LIKE WHEN SOMEONE GOES AND, AND BUYS A HOME OR PURCHASES SOMETHING.
IT'S AN AGREEMENT WE HAVE FOR THE PEOPLE THAT PURCHASE, UH, FIRST $30 MILLION THAT THOSE BONDS.
WE HAVE 56 MILLION, UH, DOLLARS WORTH OF BONDS THAT WILL BE SOLD.
WE SOLD 30, UH, 30 MILLION THOSE, AND SOME THOSE HAVE ALREADY BEEN DISTRIBUTED TO THE, UH, VARIOUS ROAD PROJECTS THAT WILL BE HAVING GOING ON.
AND THEN THE ROAD BRIDGE, UH, TAX RATE, UH, STAYS THE SAME AT 0.740.
UH, SO I WOULD, UH, IF ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO THE, UH, PROPOSED TAX INCREASE, UH, WE WOULD NOW BE TIME FOR YOU TO COME FORWARD AND I'D ASK THAT YOU GIVE YOUR NAME AND ANY STATEMENTS THAT YOU HAVE.
DO WE HAVE ANYONE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO THE COURT ABOUT THE PROPOSED TAX INCREASE? OKAY, ONE MORE TIME.
DO WE HAVE ANYONE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO THE COURT ABOUT THE PROPOSED TAX INCREASE? A MOTION, THE PUBLIC HEARING? SO MAY WE HAVE A SECOND FROM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
NEXT ITEM, I WOULD NEED A MOTION TO, UH, ENTER INTO A ANOTHER PUBLIC HEARING TO RECEIVE INPUT FROM THE PUBLIC REGARDING THE FISCAL YEAR OF 2015.
2015, PROPOSED BUDGET FOR COFFMAN COUNTY.
UH, ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO DO THE COMMISSIONER.
UH, THERE WAS INFORMATION PROVIDED, UH, ON THE TABLE THIS MORNING THERE, UH, FOR YOU TO REVIEW, UH, CONCERNING THE, UH, BUDGET FOR THIS, UH, NEXT YEAR.
AND, UH, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO THAT, UH, THAT WOULD BE THE TIME TO COME FORWARD AND DO THAT.
LET ME, UH, URGE YOU TO REVIEW, UH, THIS BUDGET HAS, UH, JUST TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE BACKGROUND INFORMATION, THIS BUDGET HAS, UH, UH, THE COURT SINCE I BELIEVE STARTING IN APRIL, HAS, I BELIEVE WE'VE HAD NINE WORKSHOP MEETINGS
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ON THEIR BUDGET.UH, AND, UH, IF YOU LOOK AT THE SECOND PAGE OF THE, UH, DOCUMENT, YOU'LL SEE HOW THE, UH, HOW THE, HOW THE TAX RATE IS PROPOSED AGAIN, AND THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT IT GENERATES.
AND I GUESS THE, UH, ITEM THAT I WANT YOU TO LOOK AT IS NOTICING ON THE BOTTOM PART OF THAT PART, UH, PART OF THAT PAGE, UH, WHERE WE SHOW WE'LL BE PAYING THE $3.173 MILLION WORTH OF DEBT ENDING THIS NEXT YEAR.
AGAIN, THAT'S THE PURPOSE OF THE, UH, TAX INCREASE.
THE NEXT PAGE YOU HAVE IS THE GENERAL FUND SUMMARY.
AND THE GENERAL FUND IS, NEXT YEAR IS PROPOSED BE, UH, A TOTAL OF 34,000,080 3,812.
THAT IS DOWN FROM THE ADOPTED BUDGET THAT WE DID EARLIER THIS YEAR.
UH, THE ADOPTED BUDGET ACTUALLY WAS 34,000,421.
SO YOU DO SEE A DECLINE IN THE, UH, FUNDING THAT GOES TO THE, UH, UH, ADOPTED BUDGET.
AND THEN, AS YOU WILL NOTICE ON DOWN THE, UH, SECOND PAGE OF THE, OR THE, THE BOTTOM PART OF THIS AND CARRYING ON OVER TO THE NEXT PAGE IS HOW THOSE FUNDS ARE BEING ALLOCATED IN THIS YEAR'S BUDGET.
UH, THE NEXT PAGE, UH, AND PETER, THIS IS WHAT I THINK YOU WERE ADDRESSING EARLIER OF THE ROAD AND BRIDGE MAINTENANCE FUND.
UH, WE, UH, WORKED WITH THE COMMISSIONERS AND THE COMMISSIONERS WERE RECEIVING THE SAME AMOUNT OF MONEY FROM OUR ROAD AND BRIDGE TAX AND OTHER SOURCES OF FUNDING FOR, UH, THE, UH, MAINTENANCE OF OUR COUNTY ROAD.
WE ALWAYS KNOW THAT'S A, UH, A TOPIC OF DISCUSSION FOR THOSE THAT LIVE IN THE RURAL AREAS OF THE COUNTY.
UH, WOULD POINT OUT THAT THE, THE BOTTOM OF THAT PAGE, YOU'LL NOTICE HOW THAT MONEY IS BEING DISTRIBUTED.
THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE BOND ELECTIONS.
THESE ARE STRICTLY FUNDS THAT ARE GRANTED TO THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT, TO EACH COUNTY COMMISSIONER FOR THEIR PRECINCTS.
AND, UH, SO THAT'S THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT THEY WILL RECEIVE FROM THE ROAD BRIDGE AND THE OTHER AREAS.
THERE ARE MANY OTHER AREAS THAT FLOW INTO THAT FUND, WHICH GENERATES APPROXIMATELY, UH, $7,047,000.
WHAT ALSO IS ADDED TO THAT FUND, UH, DISPERSED YEAR OF THE, UH, BOND ALLOW OR THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THE BOND PROGRAM.
UH, WE SET ASIDE $1 MILLION, UH, OUT OF, UH, FOR EACH PRECINCT.
UH, OUT OF THE ORIGINAL $56 MILLION THAT WERE VOTED AND APPROVED BY THE TAXPAYERS LAST, UH, NOVEMBER, THAT WAS THE AMOUNT THAT WAS, THAT WAS PUBLICIZED.
THAT WAS THE AMOUNT THAT INDICATED WHENEVER THE, UH, WHEN, WHEN WE DEVELOPED THE BOND PROGRAM, THAT WAS THE AMOUNT THAT EACH PRECINCT WOULD RECEIVE $1 MILLION.
THIS THE YEAR THAT WE'RE JUST CONCLUDING, UH, EACH COMMISSIONER RECEIVED $400,000 OF THAT AMOUNT.
UH, MANY OF THEM, OR SOME OF THEM ARE USING IT.
SOME OF 'EM HAVE ALMOST USED ALL OF THEM.
WE HAVE SOME THAT USED VERY LITTLE.
UH, BUT THIS NEXT YEAR, IN ADDITION TO THE $400,000 THEY RECEIVE, EACH COMMISSIONER WILL RECEIVE $300,000 IN ADDITIONAL ROAD BOND FUNDS.
THE THIRD AREA THAT THE COMMISSIONERS WILL RECEIVE FOR HELP FOR THE COUNTY ROADS WILL BE FROM THE STATE OF TEXAS.
AND THAT FUND, UH, WAS THE COUNTY TRANSPORTATION REINVESTMENTS ON SEA TURS, WE CALLED IT FOR A SHORT TIME, UH, FOR A SHORT TERM ACRONYM.
UH, THAT MONEY WAS APPROXIMATELY $300,000.
UH, WE, UH, HAVE JUST RECEIVED APPROVAL FROM THE TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION, UH, TO SPEND THOSE FUNDS.
AND THOSE MONIES WILL BE, UH, SOME OF THAT WILL BE SPENT FAIRLY SOON.
SOME OF IT WILL BE SPENT, UH, BY THE COMMISSIONERS DURING THE NEXT BUDGET YEAR.
UH, AND THEN THE OTHER ITEM THAT'S NOT LISTED, BECAUSE IT'S SOMETHING THAT WILL, UH, TAKE PLACE DURING THE YEAR.
WE'VE HAD TWO MAJOR PIPELINES GO ACROSS OUR COUNTY.
UH, SOME OF YOU MAY BE FAMILIAR WITH THAT.
UH, THOSE PIPELINES, THE, UH, CONTRACTORS THAT, UH, WERE CONSTRUCTING THOSE PIPELINES, DID SOME DAMAGE TO THE ROADS, UH, IN SOME CASES, UH, SEVERE DAMAGE TO THE ROADS.
AND THE COMMISSIONER WILL BE WORKING WITH THEM INDIVIDUALLY TO COME AND, UH, HELP PREPARE, UH, AND, UH, OR HELP, UH, EITHER FUND OR ACTUALLY REPAIR THE ROADS THEMSELVES.
THAT'S, THAT'S A PART THAT IS STILL IN PROGRESS.
UH, SO, UH, ONE OF 'EM IS THE SEA WAVE PIPELINE COMPANY, UH, THAT GOES PRETTY WELL ACROSS THE COUNTY STARTING UP, UH, PRETTY WELL NORTH OF, UH, IN THE NORTH, UH, WEST PART OF THE COUNTY, AND GOING ALL THE WAY DOWN TO
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THE SOUTH PART OF THE COUNTY.THE OTHER ONE, I BELIEVE IS IN, PRIMARILY IN PRECINCT THREE.
AND THAT'S THE ONE, OH, UH, PIPELINE COMPANY, UH, THAT, UH, DID SIMILAR DAMAGE UP IN THE, UH, TOP PART OF OUR COUNTY.
AND I KNOW MR. SHANE HAD BEEN WORKING WITH THEM TO GET, UH, THEM TO COME BACK AND REPAIR.
SO THAT IS A, UH, BRIEF EXPLANATION OF OUR BUDGET.
WE'D BE HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS THAT, UH, THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE.
AND, UH, SO NOW WOULD BE THE TIME BEFORE YOU COME FORWARD, STATE YOUR NAME AND, UH, WE WILL, UH, ALLOT THREE MINUTES, UH, FOR YOU TO SPEAK.
AND, UH, YOU CAN ALWAYS SPEAK TO ANY OF THE COMMISSIONERS OR TO MYSELF, UH, ANY ANYTIME DURING THE WEEK.
UH, IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT ANYTHING DEALING WITH A BUDGET OR SPECIFICALLY WITH THEM, THEIR, THEIR ROAD BUDGETS.
THEY'RE MUCH MORE FAMILIAR WITH THOSE ITEMS THAN I'M, SO ANYWAY, DID NOT COME FORWARD DOWN AND, UH, SPEAK AT THE PUBLIC HEARING.
DO WE HAVE ANYONE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK AT THE PUBLIC HEARING CONCERNING THE ADOPTION OF OUR, UH, BUDGET FOR THE 20 14 20 15 BUDGET YEAR? AGAIN, FOR THE THIRD TIME, ANYONE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO MR. COURT, UH, DURING THIS PUBLIC HEARING? OKAY.
SEEING NONE OR HEARING NONE, I'LL TAKE A, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO, UH, EXIT THE, UH, PUBLIC, UH, HEARING.
I MAY HAVE A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER, UH, MANNING.
DO I HAVE A SECOND? A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER SHANE.
THE, UH, NEXT ITEM, UH, IS TO DISCUSS AND ACT ON SETTING SALARIES, EXPENSES, AND OTHER ALLOWANCES FOR ALL ELECTED COUNTY AND PRECINCT OFFICERS.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I DID NOT MENTION IN THE, UH, UH, WHEN I WAS GOING OVER THE MAIN, UH, GENERAL FUND BUDGET IS THE FACT THAT EACH EMPLOYEE IN THE COUNTY, EACH FULL-TIME EMPLOYEE IN THE COUNTY, UH, RECEIVED AN ELECTED OFFICIAL.
I WOULD ADD, RECEIVED A $1,200, UH, INCREASE IN SALARY BEGINNING IN OCTOBER, BEGINNING WHEN THE NEW BUDGET ADOPT IS ADOPTED.
UH, SO THAT ALSO APPLIES TO THE COUNTY ELECTED OFFICIALS AND, UH, THAT HAS BEEN PUBLISHED AND WE HAVE SOME, I KNOW THEY'RE, UH, AT LEAST I KNOW ONE, MAYBE OTHERS THAT MAY DECLINE ACCEPTING THAT THEY, THEY CANNOT DO THAT UNTIL AFTER WE FORMALLY ADOPT THE BUDGET.
AND THEN THAT WAS WHEN IT WOULD BE MADE, THAT'S WHEN IT WOULD BE THE APPROPRIATE TIME TO DO THAT.
THERE IS AN AFFIDAVIT THEY WILL FIND, UH, OR THAT THEY CAN, UH, COMPLETE AND, UH, AND THEN THAT WILL BE MADE A PART OF THE BUDGET IF THEY CHOOSE TO REDUCE THEIR SALARY.
SO, UH, IF YOU HAVE COPIES OF THAT, YOU ALSO HAVE, UH, UH, THE OTHER INFORMATION ON THE, UH, SALARY AS FAR AS THE GENERAL EMPLOYEE IS CONCERNED.
LET ME, UH, ALSO ADD ONE LITTLE BIT OF EXPLANATION.
OUR EMPLOYEES HAVE NOT HAD A FULL-TIME RAISE, I BELIEVE SINCE 2007 OR 2008.
IS THAT, UH, RIGHT? YEAH, SOME, SOMEWHERE ALONG THERE.
THAT WAS WHEN, UH, THE ECONOMY STARTED SLOWING DOWN.
AND FOR THAT REASON, UH, RAISES WERE NOT GETTING, UH, GIVEN.
IN FACT, IN THE 2010 AND 2011 BUDGET YEAR, EACH COUNTY EMPLOYEE AND EACH ELECTED OFFICIAL, UH, THEIR SALARIES WERE REDUCED BY 4.44%.
UH, WE WERE ABLE TO RESTORE THAT IN THE FOLLOWING YEAR, IN THE 2011 AND 2012 BUDGET YEAR.
UH, AND SO THE YEAR FOLLOWING THAT, THE 2012, 2013, WE GAVE EACH EMPLOYEE A, EXCEPT ELECTED OFFICIALS, A $500 ONE TIME SUPPLEMENT THAT THEY RECEIVED, UH, IN THE MONTH OF NOVEMBER.
UH, WE DID THE SAME THING IN THE CURRENT YEAR BUDGET, IN THE BUDGET THAT WE'RE NOW COMPLETING 2013, 2014, EXCEPT IT WAS A $600 SUPPLEMENT.
IT WAS GIVEN AS A ONE TIME SUPPLEMENT.
IT WAS NOT GUARANTEED THAT IT WOULD BE CONTINUED UNTIL WE SAW WHERE THE COUNTY WAS FINANCIALLY.
AND SO EACH ELECTED, UH, I'M SORRY, EACH EMPLOYEE OF THE COUNTY RECEIVED $600.
AGAIN, THE ELECTED OFFICIALS DID NOT RECEIVE AN INCREASE, UH, THEN DURING I, THEY DID NOT RECEIVE THE SUPPLEMENT DURING THOSE TWO YEARS.
TO MY KNOWLEDGE, IT'S BEEN PROBABLY FIVE OR SIX YEARS AT LEAST, UH, SINCE MOST OF THE ELECTION OFFICIALS HAVE, UH, UH, RECEIVED ANY KIND OF AN INCREASE.
UH, SO THERE THEY ARE INCLUDED IN THE, UH, BUDGET, UH, HEARING THAT WE HAVE, UH, TODAY
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FOR THOSE THAT CHOOSE TO, UH, ACCEPT THAT.SO I'M SAYING THAT JUST TO LET YOU KNOW THAT THIS $1,200 IS A PERMIT RAISE, AND I'VE BEEN REMINDED, UH, TO BUY SOME OF OUR EMPLOYEES IN A, IN A NICE WAY.
WELL, IT'S REALLY NOT $1,200, IT'S 600.
AND THAT'S TRUE AND I UNDERSTAND THAT.
BUT IT IS A PERMANENT INCREASE, WHEREAS IN TWO PRIOR YEARS, 500, 600 WE'RE A ONE TIME SETTLEMENT WITH NO GUARANTEE THAT THAT WOULD BE COMPLETED.
SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE THAT, UH, BRIEF EXPLANATION.
COMMISSIONERS, Y'ALL HAVE ANY COMMENTS? I'M HAPPY TO SEE THAT THE EMPLOYEES ARE FINE IN GETTING YOUR LANE ABSOLUTELY DEDICATED, HARDWORKING EMPLOYEES AND THEY'VE BEEN TO LINE FOR US AND WE APPRECIATE THAT.
AND I WOULD ADD ELECTED OFFICIALS AND ELECTED.
IMPROVE ON THAT IN THE TAX TAX BASE GROWS.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS I'D LIKE TO SAY IS WE PUT A LOT OF HARD WORK IN TRY BUDGET THIS YEAR.
WE, LIKE JUDGE SAID, WE'VE HAD NINE MEETINGS ON THIS AND I THINK THAT WE HAVE PUT A PRODUCT OUT FOR THE COUNTY THAT THE CITIZENS SHOULD BE VERY PROUD OF.
BEFORE WE, I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT, UH, WE HAD, BEFORE WE PAID OUR EMPLOYEES FOR THAT FOUR ONE 4% DECREASE THAT THEY VOLUNTARILY TOOK SEVERAL YEARS AGO.
THIS IS THE FIRST STEP IN GETTING A BACK WHERE THEY WERE SEVERAL YEARS AGO.
I KNOW IT WAS ONE OF SEVERAL OF OUR FOCUSES ON THIS BUCKET TO MAKE SURE WE GET THAT IN THERE.
AND I APPRECIATE Y'ALL HELPING GETTING THAT IN THERE.
AND I'M PROBABLY THE ONLY ELECTED OFFICIAL FOR MY OWN REASONS, NOT ANY AGAINST ANYBODY ELSE IS GOING TO DECLINE THE, THE INCREASE.
ONE, UH, BEFORE WE, UH, UH, ACT ON THIS PARTICULAR ITEM, I WOULD LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND MOVE ITEM NUMBER 11.
UH, UH, ITEM NUMBER 11 HAS TO DO WITH A POSSIBLE GRIEVANCE HEARING, UH, THAT HAS BEEN REQUESTED BY THE PRECINCT ONE, UH, UH, CONSTABLE.
AND IT HAS TO DO, UH, WITH, UH, A PERFORMANCE PAID, UH, THAT HE IS NOT RECEIVING.
AND, UH, WE DO NOT HANDLE THAT VERY
UH, WE WOULD, ON ITEM 11, I PUT, I WANT GO AHEAD AND DO ITEM 11 TO SEE WHETHER WE WILL NEED TO FORM POINT A, UH, FORMAL GRIEVANCE COMMITTEE FOR SALARIES.
UH, YOU HAVE THE INFORMATION THERE, UH, ABOUT PERFORMING A GRIEVANCE COMMITTEE.
IN FACT, I'VE NOT I LONG IT'S BEEN SINCE WE'VE HAD A GRIEVANCE COMMITTEE.
UH, BUT, UH, YOU HAVE THE, I BELIEVE THE STATUTE THAT SHOWS HOW IT SHOULD BE COMPLETED OR WHO SHOULD BE MEMBERS OF THIS.
WE WOULD FOLLOW THE STATUTE, BUT, UH, WE'RE TALKING, I BELIEVE ABOUT, UH, $1,200.
AND, UH, I'M OPEN TO ANYBODY'S SUGGESTION IF THEY WANTED TO CONTINUE WITH GRIEVANCE COMMITTEE OR IF THEY WOULD LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND INCLUDE THAT, UH, ADDITIONAL, UH, MONIES ON THE BUDGET, UH, UH, FOR, UH, MR. MAYFIELD IN PRECINCT NUMBER ONE.
AND I BELIEVE IT WILL ALSO, UH, INCREASE.
I'M NOT SURE WHETHER WE DO THIS IN THE MIDDLE OF THE YEAR OR NOT.
SEAN AND SEAN HERE, UH, UH, RECEIVE A SECOND FROM, UH, WE DID INCLUDE THAT IN OUR CURRENT BUDGET FOR ALL OF THE OTHER CONSTABLES I BELIEVE THAT HAD NOT BEEN RECEIVING, THAT HAD ALL BEEN, UH, HAD MAINTAINED EMPLOYMENT WITH THE COUNTY.
AND SO, UH, THE OTHER, ANOTHER WHEN THEY WERE ELECTED CONSTABLES, IN OTHER WORDS, THERE WASN'T A SERVICE.
SO THEY, THEY HAD, UH, RECEIVED THAT WHILE THEY WERE THINK MOST, UH, SOME OF 'EM WERE MEMBERS OF THE, UH, SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT.
SO I JUST WANTED TO HEAR YOUR DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT.
IF YOU WANT GO AHEAD AND POINT THE, UH, UH, GRIEVANCE COMMITTEE OR IF YOU'D LIKE TO INCLUDE THAT IN THE, UH, BUDGET AS WE, BEFORE WE ADOPT.
I HAVE A QUESTION MAYBE AUDITOR CAN ANSWER.
IS THIS THE ONLY PERSON THAT WE KNOW OF THAT IS NOT GETTING PAID FOR A CERTIFICATE? TO MY KNOWLEDGE THAT THEY HOLD TO MY
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KNOWLEDGE, YES.IS THAT, UH, IN MY OPINION, I WOULD THINK THAT IF WE EQUALIZE ACROSS THE BOARD, UM, FOR EACH CONSTABLE GETTING PAID FOR THEIR CERTIFICATES, IF WE COULD FIND IT IN OUR BUDGET TO PAY CONSTABLE 360 1, THE SAME CERTIFICATE PAID THAT THE REST OF THEM ARE RECEIVING, CAN WE CIRCUMVENT THE GRIEVANCE? YEAH.
IF WE GO AHEAD AND ADOPT THE BUDGET WITH THAT INCLUDED IN THERE, I THINK WE COULD ELIMINATE NOT HAVING, DOES THAT SOUND, UH, OKAY WITH YOU, JOHN? YES.
UM, CAN, IN FACT, THE PROVISION THAT SAYS IF YOU APPOINT A COMMITTEE COMMITTEE MAY NOT SET POLICY OF THE COUNTY OR ADD NEW ITEMS TO POST COUNTY BUDGET.
SO IT SEEMS TO ME THAT YOU HAVE A COUPLE CHOICES.
YOUR FIRST CHOICE WOULD BE THAT YOU, AS COMMISSIONER SAID, WE INFORM TREATMENT OF WHOEVER HAS WHAT CERTIFICATE AND WHATEVER AMOUNT.
AND IF YOU HAVE IT, YOU SEE WHATEVER THE INCREASE IS, YOU DON'T HAVE IT, YOU DON'T SEE.
AND, BUT IF YOU WANT TO GO AHEAD AND FORM THE COMMITTEE TO DIMINISH FORM THAT THEN SUGGEST THAT SET ASIDE BUDGET TOWARD IT'S, IT'S PRETTY, UH, I I MEAN THE COMMITTEE ITSELF IS MANDATED EITHER NINE MEMBERS, PUBLIC LARGE OR ELSE ELECTED OFFICIALS, WHICH I SAY OUR CONSTABLE IS A RIGHT.
I JUST SAW THAT SEAN, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE GRIEVANCE THAT, UH, WE ARE TRYING TO DETERMINE WHETHER WE WANNA GO AHEAD AND ADDRESS THE GRIEVANCE THAT YOU HAVE FILED, UH, ASKING FOR A, A GRIEVANCE HEARING.
AND WE WE'RE HAVING A DISCUSSION ABOUT GOING AHEAD AND HANDLING THAT PRIOR TO ADOPTING THE BUDGET OR GOING THROUGH THE, UH, THE FORMAL GRIEVANCE HEARING, UH, AS YOU HAVE REQUESTED.
WHY DON'T YOU COME FORWARD AND, UH, KIND OF EXPLAIN TO THE COURT WHERE YOU'RE COMING FROM? I THINK WE PRETTY WELL ALL UNDERSTAND, BUT, UH, UH, I, I HAD REQUESTED IT BECAUSE, UH, I HAD NOTICED WHERE PRECINCT THREE AND FOUR WAS THERE PROFICIENCY, AND I HAD MY ADVANCED CERTIFICATE TO GET MY MASTER IN FEBRUARY, AND I WAS TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHY MYSELF OR EVEN PRECINCT TWO WILL NOT BE GETTING A PROFICIENCY.
WELL, I THINK THE PROFICIENCY PAY HAS BEEN ONE OF THOSE AREAS OUT THERE THAT, UH, WE HAD AT ONE TIME AND THEN IT WAS ELIMINATED.
UH, THE SHERIFF, UH, MAY BE ABLE TO BRING US UP TO DATE ON THAT, BUT, UH, BUT THERE ARE STILL PEOPLE IN THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT THAT DO RECEIVE PROFICIENCY PAY AND I'M NOT SURE ABOUT THE PRECINCT.
UH, UH, TWO, UH, JASON, WHETHER YOU HAVE, UH, YOUR CERTIFICATES AS WELL.
I WOULD, IF WE DO ANYTHING, I WOULD WANT IT TO BE CONSISTENT.
I THINK AS WELL, THIS, THIS WAS PUT IN, AND I DON'T REMEMBER EXACTLY THE YEAR, UH, UH, WELL, WE HAVE THREE CERTIFICATES OF PROFICIENCY IN, IN LAW ENFORCEMENT.
IT WAS PUT IN AS A PROFICIENCY PAY BECAUSE THERE ARE CERTAIN, UH, LEVEL OF, UH, TRAINING AND EDUCATION THAT WAS IT, A HUNDRED DOLLARS CERTIFICATE PER MONTH.
UH, SO THAT WAS THE WAY IT WAS.
AND IF YOU HAD ONE CERTIFICATE, YOU GOT 1200, YOU KNOW, 2 24 AND 3 36, UH, WHEN WE HAD THE, UH, BUDGET DAYS, THEY, THEY QUIT GIVING IT.
EVERYBODY THAT HAD IT AT THE TIME RETAIN IT.
AND, UH, THAT'S, THAT'S HOW YOU KNOW HOW THAT HAD BEEN.
HAD IT, THEY DIDN'T TAKE IT AWAY FROM YOU.
THEY DIDN'T, IT DIDN'T GIVE ANY ADDITIONAL IF YOU ALREADY, IF YOU DIDN'T GET THE ADDITIONAL, NOR IF YOU BECAME ELIGIBLE, DID YOU GET, SO THOSE HAVE HAD TO BE GRANDFATHERS? YES.
IF THEY WERE AN EMPLOYEE OF THE COUNTY AT THAT TIME, THEY WERE GRANDFATHER, YES.
IF THEY, IF THEY WERE ALREADY INAPPROPRIATE.
AND YOU WERE AN EMPLOYEE OF THEN, SIR, YOU WERE AN EMPLOYEE OF THE COUNTY WHENEVER THAT HAPPENED.
THAT'D BE THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN CONSTABLE JOHNSON BECAUSE HE WAS NOT AN EMPLOYEE OF THE COUNTY AT THAT TIME.
SO SHERIFF, HOW MANY, MANY PEOPLE DO YOU HAVE THAT HAVE NOT RECEIVED THIS PROFICIENCY PAY SINCE THAT TIME? DO YOU HAVE ANY? UH, I DON'T KNOW.
UH, COMMISSIONER, I'D HAVE TO COUNT IT UP BECAUSE IT'S, YOU KNOW, THE, UH, THAT WAS, THAT WAS, UH, DONE AGAIN, I, UH, IN THE BUDGET, UH, WORKSHOP, WE, WE CAME UP WITH
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THAT AS A WAY TO, YOU KNOW, RETAIN EMPLOYEES AND ALSO TO, UH, GIVE THEM INCENTIVE TO, YOU KNOW, UH, BROADEN THEIR, THEIR EXPERTISE AND, AND GET MOREBUT YOU KNOW, I, I COULD LOOK AT THAT, BUT I DON'T KNOW WHO, WHO HAD IT, WHO DOESN'T.
BUT YOU DO THINK THAT YOU HAVE SOME OR SEVERAL OH, THERE ARE SOME, YES.
SO THEY'RE IN THE SAME SITUATION THAT THEIR CONSTABLE'S IN IF UM, THEY HAVEN'T RECEIVED THEM RIGHT.
BUT THEY WERE NOT EMPLOYEES DURING ANYBODY THAT ANY, WELL, IF THEY, IF THEY QUALIFIED, IF THEY HAD THE ADVANCED CERTIFICATE.
SO IF, IF ANYONE WHO WAS DRAWING IT AT WHATEVER LEVEL OR RECEIVING AT WHATEVER LEVEL, THEY RETAIN THAT.
SO IF THEY WERE NOT, IF SOMEONE MAY HAVE BEEN EMPLOYED BUT THEY MAY NOT HAVE HAD THEIR, THEIR, UH, UH, INTERMEDIATE CERTIFICATE, THEN THEY WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN YET.
BUT IF WE HAD A LONG TIME EMPLOYEE THAT HAS ADVANCED AND RECEIVED CERTIFICATES SINCE THAT TIME, IS IT CORRECT THAT THEY'RE NOT RECEIVING PAY? THAT'S CORRECT.
IF THEY WEREN'T WRITTEN IN THE PROGRAM, THEY'RE NOT EVEN THOUGH THEY WERE EXISTING EMPLOYEES BEFORE, IS THAT CORRECT? YEAH.
SO IT WOULD BE THE SAME AS THE COST? YEAH, I THINK THAT SEAN IS EXACTLY ENOUGH FOR IT THAT COULD GREATLY AFFECT OUR BUDGET.
IF WE HAD ANY, ANY, UH, EMPLOYEES THAT, THAT, UH, ARE ELIGIBLE FOR THAT AND UH, ARE NOT RECEIV YET, I DUNNO WHAT LEVEL THAT THAT COULD BE.
I GUESS THAT'S SOMETHING THAT INVESTIGATED.
UM, WELL, WE CAN CERTAINLY, CERTAINLY DO THAT, BUT IT, FOR TODAY'S PURPOSES, IT'S, WE HAVE TO ADOPT THE BUDGET TODAY AND WE HAVE TO MAKE A DECISION ON, WELL, WE HAVE TO MAKE THE DECISION ON SETTING, HEARING FOR GRIEVANCE AND APPOINT THE COMMITTEE AND DO YOU KNOW, ALL THINGS.
ONE THING WE MIGHT DO IS, IS, UH, AFTER THIS OVER, GO DO A WORKSHOP AND SEE, YOU KNOW, AND, AND, AND SEE IF WE CAN ADDRESS IT NEXT YEAR.
I THINK WE'RE, WE'RE KIND OF 11TH HOUR HERE ON THIS AND UH, I DON'T WANT ANYBODY NOT TO GET WHAT THEY DESERVE, BUT I THINK WE'RE UP AGAINST THE LINE HERE.
YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING, UH, TO RETAIN OUR EMPLOYEES, ESPECIALLY EMPLOYEES, AND WE'RE LOSING A LOT OF THEM THAT Y'ALL ARE AWARE.
SO I THINK THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING WE COULD MAYBE ADDRESS DURING THE NEXT YEAR AND SEE HOW THAT WOULD WORK.
AND AT SOME POINT, AT THIS POINT, I WOULD SUGGEST GO AHEAD AND, UM, GO AHEAD WITH THE GRIEVANCE COMMITTEE TO DO WHAT IS LEGAL AND GO THROUGH THE PROCESS UNTIL WE CAN HAVE A WORKSHOP POSSIBLE.
THE GRIEVANCE COMMITTEE WOULD BE LIMITED TO ONE SPECIFIC PURPOSE.
THAT WOULD BE, THAT WOULD SEAN BE COUNCIL? YOU HAVE TO HAVE A SEPARATE COMMITTEE FOR EACH INDIVIDUAL.
WELL, I MEAN, NOBODY, THE OTHERS HAVE NOT FILED A GRIEVANCE.
I GUESS THEY COULD DO SO AFTER THE BUDGET ADOPTED, AND I KNOW WE, AGAIN, WE'VE NOT HAD ONE THESE IN MANY YEARS AND I, I'M GONNA FOLLOW OUR, UH, OUR ATTORNEY'S ADVICE ON HOW WE SHOULD DO THAT.
SO WOULD YOU HAVE TO HAVE A SEPARATE GRIEVANCE COMMITTEE FOR EACH INDIVIDUAL? I DON'T KNOW.
TYPICALLY WE DO THE OLD FASHIONED WHITE PEOPLE JUST COMPLAIN TO WHOEVER THEY WORK FOR.
AND WELL, HERE IT'S JUST LIKE SEAN, WHEN HE DISCOVERED SOME OTHER PEOPLE WERE GIVING, HE RIGHTFULLY DESERVED IT TOO.
SO HE BROUGHT IN, WELL, AFTER THIS IS BROUGHT TO LIGHT, THERE'S GONNA BE OTHER CONSTABLES, SHERIFF EMPLOYEES.
I'M SURE THEY'RE GOING TO SAY, I'M IN THE SAME BOAT.
WELL, I THEY MAY WANT TO, THEY MAY NOT WANT TO, MAYBE DON'T WANT, SO, WELL, AND IN FAIR, IN FAIRNESS, IF ALL OF THEM HAVE A COMMON THREAD THAT THEY'RE ALL RELATED TO THE SIGNIFICANCES, THAT I THINK THAT ONE COMMITTEE CAN ADDRESS IT SO YOU GET ONE RESULT THAT'S CONSISTENT.
BUT, BUT IF THE COURT ELECTS TO FORM A COMMITTEE, THEY NEED WHATEVER, PROCEED FOR ALL OF THEM OR FOR, BECAUSE HE'S GOT,
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WE HAVE ANY FUNDS AVAILABLE THAT ARE NOT BEING USED.I TO DECREASE A LINE ITEM SOMEWHERE SO I CAN MAKE UP THE MONEY BECAUSE IT'S GONNA AFFECT, YOU KNOW, SOCIAL SECURITY AND RETURN BUDGET.
IT'S HARD TO KNOW THAT RIGHT NOW.
HOW MANY, SO, UH, SINCE ITEM NUMBER 11, I'VE MOVED IT UP.
DO YOU WANT TO GO AHEAD AND POINT THE GRIEVANCE COMMITTEE AND FOLLOW THE FORMAL PROCESS THAT'S OUTLINED IN THE STATUTES FOR THAT? THAT WOULD BE MY MOTION.
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER LIK TO APPOINT THE, UH, GRIEVANCE COMMITTEE FOLLOWING THE STATUTE.
WE HAVE A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER SHANE.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
WE'LL GET THAT COMMITTEE APPOINTED AND THERE IS A PROCESS WE HAVE TO DRAW THREE GRAND JURY, FORMER GRAND JURY MEMBERS, I BELIEVE.
DO YOU HAVE THAT OVER THERE? OKAY.
UH, YOU GONNA GO AHEAD AND DO THAT? DO, YEAH, WE GO AHEAD AND DO THAT.
I THINK I'M SUPPOSED TO PULL THREE NAMES OUT.
IS THAT THREE ALTERNATE? THREE ALTERNATES.
IS SHE, I'LL GIVE IT BACK TO YOU.
THE SECOND ONE IS JEFF DANIEL BERRY.
THESE FOLKS HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THEIR NAME IS.
AND THE LAST ONE IS RICK HAWTHORNE.
DO DO THREE ALTERNATES, JUDITH AND SANCHEZ.
LAST ALTMAN IS MARVIN EARL BACON, EARL.
SO THE ALTERNATES, UH, I'M SORRY.
THE APPOINTMENT, THE FIRST ONE WOULD BE SUSAN TIBBLE.
SECOND ONE WOULD BE RICK HAWTHORN.
AND THEN THE THIRD ONE WOULD BE JEFF DANIEL BERRY.
THE ALTERNATES, UH, WOULD BE, UH, JUDITH AND SASHA, S-A-N-C-H-E-Z.
THE SECOND ONE WOULD BE HECTOR.
AND THEN THE LAST ONE WOULD BE MARVIN EARL FAGAN.
AND IN ADDITION TO THOSE NAMES, THE OTHER COMMITTEE MEMBER WILL BE BRUCE WOOD, WHO IS THE COUNTY JUDGE, IS THE CHAIRMAN OF THE COMMITTEE.
BUT, UH, THE COUNTY JUDGE UNDER THE STATUTE IS NOT A VOTING MEMBER.
THE VOTING MEMBERS WOULD BE DAVID BURNS,
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THE COUNTY SHERIFF, TONY RATCLIFFE, THE COUNTY TAX ASSESSOR COLLECTOR, JOHNNY COUNTRYMAN, THE COUNTY TREASURER, LAURA HUGHES, THE COUNTY CLERK, RHONDA HUEY, THE DISTRICT CLERK, AND EARLY WILEY, THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY.AND THEN THE PUBLIC MEMBERS OF THESE NAMES WERE ALL PEOPLE THAT HAVE SERVED AS A GRAND JURY MEMBER.
AND UH, WE HAVE, UH, THREE APPOINTEES AND THREE ALTERNATES.
SO WE'LL BE, I THINK WE HAVE TO CONVENE THIS THING WITHIN THE NEXT FEW DAYS.
AND WE'LL, JOHN, WILL EVERYBODY GET ALL LOOKS LIKE 15 DAYS? YEAH.
I BELIEVE WE'VE, UH, SINCE WE MOVED ITEM SIX, UH, OR ITEM 11 UP, THE, UH, NEXT ITEM WOULD BE, UH, DID WE DO FIVE? DID WE, HOLD ON.
NO, WE NEED TO ACT OR ITEM NUMBER FIVE IS DISCUSS AND ACT ON SETTING SALARIES, EXPENSES, AND OTHER ALLOWANCES FOR ALL ELECTED COUNTY PRECINCT OFFICERS.
WE TALKED ABOUT IT, BUT WE HAVE VOTE.
SO I NEED A MOTION, UH, TO, UH, SET THOSE SALS AND OTHER OFFICES.
IS THAT WHAT'S GONNA BE IN THAT PROPOSED? YEAH, THAT'S WHAT'S IN THE SAL.
A COPY YOU HAVE, I EMAILED IT TO HIM FRIDAY AND I'VE GOT A HARD COPIES RIGHT HERE.
DID YOU PASS THOSE OUT? DID YOU, GO AHEAD.
AND YOU DON'T, I DON'T HAVE THE SALARY WORKSHEET, BUT IT'S GOTTEN IN THERE WORK THE SALARIES THAT, THAT ARE LISTED.
I, THIS IS THE SAME LEGAL NOTICE THAT'S IN THE HERE, UH, THAT WE'VE RUN IN THE PAPER.
I GUESS THE QUESTION I HAVE WHEN YOU, WHERE DOES THIS REFLECT, UH, THE JP SHOWER CHANGE THAT YOU MADE? THAT IS, UH, WE DID THAT.
TRYING TO REMEMBER YOU DID THAT LAST FRIDAY IN THE BUDGET DATE.
IT SAYS UNLESS IT'S IN KAREN, IS IT IN THIS PART HERE, THE DONE? YES SIR.
IF YOU START ON PAGE 25, THIRD LINE DOWN, SEE IT? YES.
AS MUCH AS I TOOK OVER THAT, MAKE SURE IT'S IN THERE.
THAT, THAT IS, YOU'RE APPROVING THE PROPOSED SALARY.
YOU'RE NOT APPRO THE SUPPLEMENT UNTIL YOU ADOPT THE BUDGET BEFORE THE SALARIES WERE FOUND.
THE SUPPLEMENT HAS BEEN CHANGED FOR ALL
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THE 6,000 AND I BELIEVE THAT'S WHAT THE COURT WANTED TO DO, I THINK.DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, CYNTHIA? I THINK TO HAVE THAT OUT NOW, UH, JUDGE, THERE IS A CORRECTION ON CONSTABLE PRECINCT FOUR.
I THOUGHT HE HAD THE, THE MASTERS AND I HAD PUT 36 AND HE'S ONLY GETTING THE 24.
AND IT IS CORRECT IN THE BUDGET DOCUMENT.
I JUST WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT JOHN.
AND THE, UH, NOTICE THAT WAS PUBLISHED, UH, THAT WE, UH, CONCERNING ALL THE SALARY MM-HMM
WHEN WE HAD A WORKSHOP, UH, FRIDAY, WE AGREED TO, UH, UH, GIVE AN ADDITIONAL SUPPLEMENT OF $6,000 TO THE OTHER TWO, TWO JPS THAT WERE NOT RECEIVING THAT THAT WAS INIT THAT WAS NOT LISTED IN THE LEGAL PUBLICATION WHERE WE NEED TO GO BACK AND PUBLISH THAT.
AND BEFORE WE, UH, APPROVE THESE, WE, I GUESS WE CAN APPROVE FOR EVERYBODY ELSE EXCEPT THOSE TWO.
YEAH, I WOULD, I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT I RECOMMEND APPROVING THEM FOR EVERYONE ELSE, BUT SETTING SITE, WHATEVER THE AMOUNT WOULD BE AND PUBLISH THOSE AND, AND, AND IN ANTICIPATION THAT YOU ALL APPROVE THE 6,000.
EVERYBODY FOLLOW ALL, ALL WE'RE SAYING AND WE WOULD DIRECT THE ONE WITH THAT'S CORRECT.
WITH THE CONSTABLE AT THE SAME TIME.
SO WE WOULD NEED TO REPUBLISH THOSE THREE, TWO JPS AND CONSTABLE PRECINCT FOUR.
ALRIGHT, WITH THAT BEING SAID, DO I HAVE A MOTION TO, UH, SET THE SALARIES, EXPENSES, AND OTHER ALLOWANCES FOR ALL ELECTED AND COUNTY AND PRECINCT OFFICE EXCEPT FOR THE, I'LL MAKE THE MOTION WITH THE THREE CHANGES.
COMMISSIONER, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? I'M SORRY, I GOT IT.
I DID WANNA CLARIFY THAT YOU'RE GONNA APPROVE SETTING SALARIES, EXPENSES, AND ALLOWANCE FOR ALL EFFECTI OFFICERS WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE SALARIES FOR THE FOUR JUSTICES OF THE PEACE, TWO JUSTICES OF THE PEACE FOR THE TWO PRECINCT.
UH, IT'S NOT PRECINCT ONE AND PRECINCT TWO.
BUT WASN'T AND CONSTABLE PRECINCT FOUR, BUT WASN'T BECAUSE NONE OF THE SALARY SUPPLEMENTS WERE INCLUDED IN THE JUSTICE OF THE PEACE AS YOU DID FOR THE TAX ASSESSOR AND THE CONSTABLE PRECINCT THREE AND FOUR ON THAT LIST.
YOU'RE NOT GONNA LIST 6,000 AS A, UH, A SUPPLEMENTAL SALARY FOR ALL FOUR J TWO TWO WERE ALREADY RECEIVING.
BUT ON THE LEGAL NOTICE, THE $6,000 WAS NOT LISTED FOR ANY OF THE JPS.
SO ARE YOU GOING TO WELL, IF THAT'S THE CASE, I THOUGHT THEY ARE, WE GONNA DO TWO BE THE, IT'S $7,200
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THAT'S SHOWN AS EXPENSES WOULD BE THEIR $600 A MONTH.AND SO I DO NOT BELIEVE IT SHOWS THE ADDITIONAL, UH, I DON'T BELIEVE IT DOES SHOW THE ADDITIONAL $6,000 THAT EACH ONE WILL RECEIVE.
SO WE'LL NEED TO CORRECT THAT.
SO WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE SALARY FOR THE BOARD, JUSTICE OF THE PEACE AND CONSTABLE PRECINCT FOR PROFICIENCY PAY.
IS THAT ALL THAT YOU THOUGHT SHOULD BE ON THAT? YES.
I I I HAD NOT HAD THAT LEGAL NOTICE.
I AWARE IT WAS POSTED INCORRECTLY, BUT UH, WITH THE CHANGES SHE SAID ON ALL FOUR JPS AND CONSTANT PRECINCT FOR DECREASE OF PROFICIENCY, THEN WHATEVER WE ON.
ALRIGHT, SO NOW WE'VE GOT, I THINK THAT WE HAVE A, YOU MAKE THAT IN YOUR MOTION? YES SIR.
AND WE HAVE A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER MANNING.
ALL IN FAVOR SAY A AYE THOSE AGAINST ALL ITEM NUMBER SIX IS TO DISCUSS AND ACT ON ADOPTING THE FUNDING YEAR 20 20 15 BUDGET FOR COST COUNTY.
WHAT IS YOUR PLEASURE FOR THAT? I'VE GOT PUBLIC HEARING.
ANY BUDGET IS AT BEST AN ESTIMATE.
UH, IT'LL CHANGE PROBABLY BEFORE THE END OF THE FIRST YEAR OF THE MONTH OR FIRST MONTH OF BUDGET YEAR BECAUSE PEOPLE LEAVING AND COMING AND GOING.
BUT IT'S THE MOST ACCURATE DOCUMENT WE CAN COME UP WITH AT THIS TIME.
SO DO I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE, UH, BUDGET FOR 20 14 20 15? SO I HAVE A MOTION FROM, UH, COMMISSIONER LIK DO WE HAVE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
I'LL JUST BEFORE AFTER DISCUSSION THOUGH, UH, WE TALKED ABOUT CREATING A PLACEHOLDER FOR AN ENGINEER.
IS IT ENGINEER? YEAH, IT'S IN, IT'S IN 20 MAIN ROAD BRIDGE.
UH, ALL RIGHT NOW ITEM NUMBER SEVEN IS THE, UH, CONSTABLE
ITEM NUMBER SEVEN HAS TO DO WITH, UH, CONSIDERING APPROVING THE SHERIFF AND CONSTABLE FEES OR KAUFMAN COUNTY OF TEXAS JANUARY THE FIRST, 2015.
THIS HAS TO BE DONE, I BELIEVE BEFORE THE, UH, BUDGET YEAR BEGINS.
YOU HAVE, UH, DOCUMENTS OF THAT? I BELIEVE THE CONSTABLES HAVE TALKED, I DUNNO THAT Y'ALL GOT TOGETHER, BUT I THINK IT ALL DISCUSSED AMONG EACH OTHER, UH, THE VARIOUS FEES THAT ARE HERE.
I HAVE A LETTER FROM SHERIFF BURNS WHERE HE, UH, AGREES WITH THESE, UH, ANY OF ANY ONE OF THE CONSTABLES WISH TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE? YEAH, KEITH, UH, CAN YOU COME UP
POSSIBLE ELECTION OF JUDGMENT AND COST SHALL INCLUDE ALL COSTS INCURRED IN CANCELLATION FEE AND ORDER.
REMOVE THAT FROM ITEM RIGHT CANCELLATION.
YOU HAVE A COPY OF THIS? NO, SIR.
I DON'T HAVE ONE S HONOR SECOND ON THE CANCELLATION BECAUSE WE'VE ALREADY GOT A DEAL THAT'S IN THERE, CONSTABLE BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION.
SO WE'VE ALREADY GOT SOMETHING THAT
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WILL COVER THAT, THAT'S ALREADY LISTED, COVERED TOWARDS THE TOP ON THE RECOVERY OF EXTERNAL EXECUTIONS.SHERIFF, ARE YOU FINE WITH THAT? YEAH.
ANY OTHER, ANY OF THE OTHER, DO YOU GUYS WISH TO ADDRESS ANY OF THESE? I KNOW Y'ALL HAVE WORKED ON IT.
UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE ARE NOTICING IS THAT JUVENILE NOTICES ARE COMING IN MORE AND MORE OF ABUNDANCE.
UM, AND THEY, WE DO NOT HAVE A FEE SET ON THAT.
SO WE WOULD LIKE TO SET THE JUVENILE NOTICES AT 35, SO THAT'LL BE BILLED TO THE COURTS.
SO THE JUVENILE FEE IS NOT ON THIS PARTICULAR DISTRICT? I DON'T BELIEVE IT IS.
DON'T WE NEED TO ADD THAT IF THAT'S WHAT EVERYBODY'S WE'RE DOING? I KNOW YOU'RE GETTING A LOT OF UH, UH, TRUANCY CASES.
I THINK PROBABLY PRETTY WELL ACROSS THE COUNTY, UH, ESPECIALLY WITH CONSTABLE MORRIS SIDE OF IT.
ARE THESE FEES SIMILAR TO THE FEES BEEN COLLECTED OR THERE HASN'T BEEN ANY FEES COLLECTED ON THE JUVENILE? NO, I'M TALKING ABOUT ALL THE REST OF THESE.
THESE, IS THIS CONSISTENT WITH WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING? YES SIR.
AND THAT'S TO SERVE A TRUANCY NOTICE TO THE PARENTS? THAT'S CORRECT.
AND THIS ALSO HELPS WHEN Y'ALL GOVIC EVICT EVICT PEOPLE FROM THEIR HOUSES.
UH, ON THE FORCIBLE SIDE OF IT, UH, YOU HAVE TWO DIFFERENT TYPES OF FEES.
YOU'VE GOT THE FORCABLE CONTAINER, WHICH IS THE BEGINNING PROCESS ON AN EVICTION AS WELL AS IF, IF THE EVICTION IS PROCEEDED AND ACCEPTED BY THE COURTS, THEN THE, THE PLAINTIFF COMES BACK AND GETS WHAT'S CALLED WR OF POSSESSION.
SO BASICALLY IF YOU LOOK AT IT, THE FORCEFUL DETAINER IS BEING CHARGED AT $200 AND THEN ALSO THE WR OF POSSESSION ITSELF IS BEING CHARGED AT $200.
SO A PLAINTIFF IS PAYING $400 TO PICK SOMEBODY OUTTA THE PROPERTY.
SOMETIMES THAT PROBABLY COVERS THE COST.
'CAUSE OTHER TIMES IT'S DOESN'T COME CLOSE STEP.
YEAH, BECAUSE A LOT OF TIMES Y'ALL, Y'ALL HAVE STAY HALF A DAY MOVING STUFF OUT TO THE CURB OR WHATEVER EXACTLY.
WHEN WE'RE ACTUALLY DOING THE RENT OF POSSESSION AND THE PEOPLE HAVEN'T MOVED OUT THE PROPERTY, WE'RE ACTUALLY REMAINING AT THE LOCATION FOR AT LEAST FIVE TO SIX HOURS AT A TIME.
AND THE CONSTABLES OR OUR DEPUTIES, THEY CAN'T GO ANYWHERE UNTIL THAT REPOSSESSION IS COMPLETED.
SO YOU HAVE ACTUALLY TAKEN THAT OFFICER OUT OF THE EQUATION THE WHOLE DAY.
SO THAT'S WHY WE ASSISTED ANOTHER FIELD ON TOP OF THAT.
WE'LL GIVE YOU SO MANY HOURS BY THE COUNTY, BUT AFTER THAT YOU'RE GONNA BE CHARGED PER DEPUTY PER HOUR AFTER THAT, WHICH ENTAILS THAT WE TELL YOU YOU NEED TO SHOW UP WITH 10 MOVERS.
YOU NEED TO SHOW UP WITH 10 MOVERS NOT SHOW UP WITH FIVE AND THINK THAT YOU'RE GONNA TAKE ON DAY WITH THIS.
YOU SPEND A LOT OF TIME JUST WAITING.
BECAUSE WE CAN'T LEAVE THAT LOCATION UNTIL THAT ROOF POSITION IS ACTUALLY COMPLETED.
THE CH THE LOCKS HAVE BEEN CHANGED AND WE PAINTED THE PROPERTY BACK AWAY TO THE PLATE.
SO THAT THAT'S ADDRESSED THERE.
AT THE BOTTOM OF THAT AFTER TWO HOURS IS $50 AN HOUR? YES, THAT'S CORRECT.
BECAUSE THAT'S A TWO OFFICER JOB, ESPECIALLY WHEN WE'RE REMOVING SOMEBODY FROM THE RESIDENCE, THEY WANT TO COME OUT AND THEY DON'T WANT TO LEAVE.
THAT'S WHY WE HAVE TO HAVE TWO OFFICERS THERE.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE COUNSELORS NOT ON E ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO, UH, APPROVE AS, UH, WITH THE RECOMMENDED CHANGES AND THE ADDITION OF THE JUDICIAL TRUANCY NOTICE I BELIEVE 30.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR? OPPOSED? ALL ITEM NUMBER EIGHT IS TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER APPROVING A NEW HIGHWAY AT GRADE CROSSING AGREEMENT AMONG UNION PACIFIC RAILROAD COMPANY AND AN PROPER DEVELOPMENT INCORPORATED COUNTY OF COFFMAN AND LAS LS MUNICIPAL UTILITY DISTRICT NUMBER FOUR FOR THE RELOCATION AND CONSTRUCTION OF THE EXISTING HAMS TRAIL OF CROSSING COFFMAN COUNTY PRECINCT NUMBER TWO.
I BELIEVE THIS WAS, UH, YOUR ITEM THAT YOU ASKED.
PUT THAT WAS A MOUTHFUL STATEMENT.
I WANNA MAKE SURE WE HAD ENOUGH INFORMATION ON THE AGENDA.
PLUS I BELIEVE WE'VE GOT SEVERAL REPRESENTATIVES HERE FROM, UH, LOSS LAS LOMA ANTHONY.
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THIS IS FRANKHE REPRESENTS ANTHONY PROPERTIES.
THAT WOULD EXPLAIN THINGS A LOT BETTER, RIGHT? THIS IS HELMS TRAIL AND THIS IS GREAT QUESTION.
WHAT THIS IS GOING TO ENTAIL, AND I BELIEVE I I KNOW THAT JOHN LONG HAS LOOKED THIS OVER, THIS AGREEMENT OVER, I'M SURE EVERYBODY ELSE HAS READ HERE, PAGE OF IT SINCE IT'S 65 PAGES.
YOU MIGHT SHOW THE AUDIENCE HONOR.
YEAH, I'LL GET AND FRANK, YOU CORRECT ME IF SAYING WRONG THIS.
AND JOHN, YOU CAN IN A NUTSHELL, THE SHORT SYNOPSES IS, IS LOS L OWNS BOTH SIDES OF THE PROPERTY ON HA TRAIL BETWEEN THE LAST SUBDIVISION, WHICH IS CALLED UH, PRAIRIE, SOMETHING ON BOTH SIDES OF THE ROAD.
HA TRAIL DOWN ONTO, ONTO HIGHWAY EIGHT.
THEY WANT TO ABANDON, WE ABANDON HIGHWAY THAT PARK HILLS TRAIL AND RELOCATE HIMMS TRAIL TO GO OVER TO THE WINDMILL FARMS BOULEVARD CROSSING.
THEY'RE GOING TO CLOSE THE CROSSING IN HELMS TRAIL IN 80, OPEN A NEW CROSSING AT WINDMILL BOULEVARD AND HIGHWAY 80 AND BUILD A NEW ROAD FROM THE EXISTING HILLS TRAIL.
THAT WILL BE, I'M SURE
SEE TWO THINGS THAT ALLOWED THEM SOME ACCESS TO SOME PROPERTY THAT GOT THERE.
BUT THE GENERAL PUBLIC WILL BE ABLE TO, RIGHT NOW YOU GO DOWN A S TRAIL AND THE SERVICE ROAD IS ONE WAY.
YOU HAVE TO MAKE A RIGHT HAND.
YOU WANNA GO DOWN, YOU HAVE TO MAKE A RIGHT HAND TURN, GO DOWN TO THE TRIPLE X VIDEO PLACE, THE DONUT STORE, WHATEVER THEY'VE GOT RIGHT THERE, GET YOU DOWN HEAD BACK TO DALLAS THROUGH A PRETTY COMPLICATED U-TURN GETTING BACK AROUND, RIGHT? THIS WOULD ALLOW THE PEOPLE TO GO RIGHT STRAIGHT OVER TO HIGHWAY 80, GO LEFT.
IF THEY WANNA GO TO DALLAS, GO RIGHT.
IF THEY WANNA GO TO CHARLES, I THINK IT'LL HELP THE RESIDENTS OUT THERE, UH, GET OFF THAT ONE WAY ROAD.
AND WE MET WITH THE, THE IN INSIDE THE MAYOR
HE SAID, WE BETTER HELP THEIR COMMUNITY.
IS IT POSSIBLE TO MAKE THE NEW ROAD AND MAINTAIN THE, THE EXISTING S TRAIL AND CROSSING? BECAUSE I KNOW RAILROAD CROSSINGS EXTREMELY HARD TO COME BACK.
IN FACT, WE HAD TO GIVE UP TWO CROSSINGS TO GET THE ONE APPROVED.
SO I THINK, UH, NO, UH, YOU'RE RIGHT.
WE DON'T WANT, UH, WE UP WANT WON'T APPROVE ANY NEW GREAT CROSSINGS UNLESS YOU THINK THERE'S A SAFETY FEATURE.
AND AS IT IS, THE HEL TRAIL CROSSING IS AT A SLIGHT CURVE IN THE ROAD.
SO WE FELT LIKE WHEN WE WENT OUT AND INSPECTED IT WASN'T ONE OF THEIR SAFER GRADE CROSSINGS, AND THAT BY DOING THIS, IT WOULD HELP ENHANCE THE SAFETY OF THAT CROSSING.
ONE OF THE REASONS WHY WE SUPPORTED.
THEY'RE TRYING TO ELIMINATE GREAT PROCESS.
IN FACT, THE NEW, THEY TELL ME NOW, THEY ACTUALLY WANT TO SEE IT SHUT DOWN THREE GREAT CROSSINGS FOR EVERY NEW ONE.
YOU KNOW, A BRIDGE OVER HASSLE TOO.
WES E IT IS ONLY IN NIES ETJ IN THE EASEMENT AREA BETWEEN THE PROPERTY AND THE HIGHWAY.
BUT THERE WAS A, UH, UH, A LITTLE OVER 10 YEARS AGO, THERE WAS A TRADE BETWEEN TERRELL AND CORNING OF SOME LAND AND, AND ACCIDENTALLY THE, THE LEGAL DESCRIPTION DID NOT GO UP TO THE HIGHWAY.
SO THE EASEMENT AREA STILL FALLS WITHIN FOUR ZTJ, BUT THE PROPERTY IS MATERIAL ZTJ.
AND THE ROAD WILL BE BUILT AND MAINTAINED BY
THE, THE, THE ROAD AND THE CROSSING.
UH, THE ROAD WILL BE BUILT BY LAS L THE CROSSING WILL BE PAID FOR IN A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS GIVEN TO THE COUNTY COURT.
BUT THEN THE COUNTY WILL END UP TAKING THE, THE ROAD WHEN IT'S DEDICATED BACK TO WHICH SHOULD LOST L NOT BE RESPONSIBLE FOR MAINTENANCE OF IT.
IF IT IS A COUNTY ROAD, YOU KNOW, WE LAS LOMAS CAN'T BE RESPONSIBLE FOR, I MEAN, I THINK, I MEAN IT'S DOES LAS LOMAS HAVE A CITY? I'M NOT REAL FAMILIAR WITH.
THE, IT'S A LAS LOMAS IS A MUD DISTRICT.
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AS THE AND SEPARATE ENTITY, THERE'S THREE ENTITIES.THERE'S LAS LOMAS ANTHONY PROPERTIES AND THE COUNTY ANTHONY PROPERTIES IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE COSTS INCURRED.
UM, AND THAT IS BASICALLY TRANSFERRED OVER TO, TO THE DISTRICT.
AND THEN AT THE END OF THE PROJECT HAS TO BE INSPECTED AND APPROVED LEAD BY THE, THE ATTORNEYS AND BY THE COUNTY TO MAKE SURE THAT THE ROAD THAT WAS BUILT TO FORMS OF THE COUNTY STANDARDS FOR IT TO BE DEDICATED TO THE COUNTY.
THIS WILL BE UP TO THIS BE A PROBABLY MAJOR, MAJOR ROAD, PROBABLY ABOVE SUBDIVISION IONS.
IT WOULD START OFF AS A TWO LANE GAS, BUT WITH ROAD TO GO TO A 12.
HAVE Y'ALL GOT A DESIGNATED EASEMENT? I'VE SEEN NO PLANS OR NO SUBDIVISION LAYOUT OR ANYTHING OF THIS.
DO Y'ALL HAVE ANY, ANY DRAWINGS OR, OR LIKE SUBDIVISION PLA THAT'S SHOWING WELL, EASEMENT WIDTH.
THE, THE DIAGRAM, THE DIAGRAM IN THE, UM, THE DOCUMENT, THE EXHIBIT WILL SHOW YOU THE CROSSING ITSELF.
I'M TALKING ABOUT THE ROAD, THE ROAD ITSELF.
I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE COUNTY HAVING TO MAINTAIN SOMETHING THAT IS BUILT BY SOMEONE ELSE.
UM, AND IF THIS IS GONNA BE FOR FUTURE GROWTH, IT IT SHOULD HAVE, I WOULD THINK MAYBE A FOUR LANE WIDTH RIGHT AWAY ESTABLISHED.
I'VE SEEN NOTHING TO SHOW RIGHT.
WAY WIDTH OR NO CONSTRUCTION, NO SERVICE.
WELL THE, THE, THE, THE EXHIBIT THERE WILL SHOW THAT THE, THE, THE EASEMENT RIGHT AWAY FOR FOUR LANES.
I I COULD NOT READ THIS PRE IS SO SMALL.
IT SHOULD BE AN EXHIBIT I THINK.
BUT I YOU READ ANY OF THAT? WELL I CAN, I CAN FORWARD THE ORIGINAL DOCUMENT.
YOU'RE RIGHT TO TAKE THE COPY OF THIS IS HARD TO SEE, BUT YOU KNOW, IF WE WERE TO TAKE THE WHOLE ROAD TO FOUR LANES AND I CAN SEE THAT HAPPENING, BUT RIGHT NOW IT'S NOT A FLAT.
WE WOULD HAVE TO GET APPROVAL TO DO THAT.
I, I'D LIKE TO SEE SOME, SOME TYPE OF PLA MAKE THESE SUBDIVISION DEVELOPERS JUMP THROUGH, THROUGH, HAVE ALL THEIR FLAT AND EASEMENTS AND EVERYTHING IN ORDER BEFORE WE GO TO A HUGE EXPENSE LIKE THIS.
I WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOME PLANS, WHAT THE COUNTY'S GONNA BE RESPONSIBLE FOR AS FAR AS THE, THE EXPENSE GOES.
THE AND AND ASSIST ME ON THIS ONE, JOHN.
THE WAY THE DOCUMENTS ARE DRAFTED, A HUNDRED PERCENT OF THE EXPENSE, INCLUDING THE CROSSING CONTRIBUTED BACK TO UH, LAS LOMA AND ANTHONY PROPERTIES.
NOW THE BENEFIT OF THE ROAD, UH, AS YOU CAN SEE GOES ALONG ONE SIDE OF OUR PROPERTY AND THE OTHER SIDE OF THE PROPERTY.
EVENTUALLY WE'LL CONNECT OVER TO, THROUGH ANOTHER PROPERTY OWNERS OVER TO THE BRIDGE THAT FORNEY BUILT AND THEN HELPS TRAIL EFFECTS BACK DOWN TO T TEAM.
THAT'S WHY WE THOUGHT IT WAS IMPORTANT TO MEET WITH ALL, ALL THE PARTIES BEFOREHAND.
SO IT'S, YOU KNOW, WE'RE PAYING FOR IT, BUT REALLY IT'S A, IT IS A REGIONAL
SEE THIS IS A SEPARATE, THIS IS OUR PROPERTY.
THIS IS A DIFFERENT PROPERTY YOUR HONOR.
AND THEN IT'LL CONNECT THE HELMS TRAIL ROAD HERE AND COME DOWN HERE.
I'M NOT SURE IT MAY BE THE HUNTS THAT OWNED THAT PROPERTY RIGHT NEXT, BUT THIS ROAD IS COMING IN AT A ANGLE JUST LIKE M IS CROSSING, IS THAT RIGHT? WELL, IT'S GONNA COME IN AND COME IN STRAIGHT SO THAT YOU, IT TURNS AND IT, IT HOOK GOES RIGHT INTO WHERE THE BRIDGE AREA IS.
IT, IT'S IMPOSSIBLE FOR ME TO TELL DRAWING.
THAT'S WHY DRAWING OR ANYTHING WE, WE HAVE, THIS IS THE NEXT, IT'S FUNNY, THIS IS A, THIS IS FROM 2005 AND IT JUST SHOWS THAT THIS IS THE SAME PLAN THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH TDOT AND THE, UM, BEFORE RAY, UH, THE COUNTY AND THE CITY OF TER, THE CITY OF PO.
WE'VE BEEN WORKING OFF THIS ROADWAY PLAN SINCE 2005 AND, AND, AND I THINK WE'VE DONE IT RIGHT THROUGH THE STATE CENTER.
WE, WE MET WITH ALL THE RIGHT PARTIES TO GET THIS APPROVED.
UM, AND IT PEOPLE HAVE JUST BEEN WAITING FOR IT TO HAPPEN WHEN THEY BE HONEST BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T HAD THE DEMAND FOR IT.
WHAT KIND OF TIMEFRAME ARE YOU ON? THERE'S A, A, A PORTION OF THE AGREEMENT SAYS THAT IT'S 12 MONTHS FROM THE EFFECTIVE DATE THAT WE HAVE INITIATE
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CONSTRUCTION OF IT.SO THE EFFECTIVE DATE IS THE WILL BE DATE SIGNED, WHICH WILL BE THE NEXT FEW DAYS FOR TODAY.
SO YOU'RE PLANNING ON STARTING THE PROCESS VERY QUICK? YES SIR.
WE JUST FINISHED THE, UH, YOU KNOW, THE SAME PLAN HAS THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT ENTRANCE RAMP THAT GOES OVER TO FIVE 70.
AGAIN, ANOTHER KIND OF ROAD, SAME THING.
WE, WE BUILT THAT WITH PARTNERSHIP WITH TERRELL AND UH, COLA OR TERRELL AND OR THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE AND COLA AND OURSELVES.
THIS ROW WILL COST US 1 MILLION AND A HALF, BUT WE JUST SAID WE, IT'S SITTING THERE WAITING FOR THE RATE 10 TO DO IT.
I THINK WE FEEL LIKE THE TIMING HAS COME THAT THE TRAFFIC WILL DEMAND AND THE FLAT WILL BE REQUIRED BUILDING ROAD ROAD OVER TO THE COUNTY.
A LOT OF OUR SO ROADS ARE DEDICATED TO COUNTY AND THE COUNTY CAN THEN ACCEPT IT FOR MAINTENANCE.
I I'M JUST CONCERNED ABOUT THE COUNTY ACCEPTING A ROAD AND MAINTAINING IT.
'CAUSE THIS IS NOT GONNA BE LIKE THE SUBDIVISION ROAD.
THIS IS GONNA HAVE A HUGE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC ALL IN THE FUTURE.
I MEAN, BUT UH, I THINK WE SHOULD PREPARE SURE AND BUILD A ROAD TO CARRY THAT.
AND, AND OUR SUBDIVISION ROADS, THE BLACK LAND ARE FALLING APART DAILY AND IF THIS IS GONNA HAVE TRUCK TRAFFIC, CONSTRUCTION TRAFFIC BEFORE WE GET, WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE SUFFICIENT ROAD BEFORE THE ROAD IT'S, UH, COMPLETED WITHIN THE SUBDIVISION ITSELF.
WE STILL HAVE TO PRESENT THAT.
THAT'S, THAT'S SEPARATE THAN THE ACCESS POINT RIGHT NOW.
SO WHEN ARE YOU PLANNING ON MOVING FORWARD WITH THIS? BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE ANY KIND OF INFORMATION SHOWING WHEN YOU'RE GONNA DO THIS.
THE, THE AGREEMENT FROM UNION PACIFIC AND IT WAS SOMETHING THAT JOHN AND I UM, NEGOTIATED WITH THEM.
YOU KNOW, WE, WE, I WOULD'VE LIKED TO HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME BUT, BUT THEY ACTUALLY SQUEEZED IT DOWN TO 12 MONTHS.
SO, UH, THERE'S AN EFFECTIVE DATE, UH, DESCRIPTION WITHIN THE AGREEMENT AND THEN LATER IN THE AGREEMENT IT SAYS THAT THESE IMPROVEMENTS MUST COMMENCE WITHIN 12 MONTHS.
REALLY IT'S BECAUSE THE DOLLAR FIGURES ASSOCIATED WITH IT.
AND I THINK UNION PACIFIC WOULD LIKE TO SEE US GET IT STARTED IN ABOUT SIX MONTHS, BUT THERE'S STILL A LOT OF ENGINEERING DRAWINGS THAT WOULD NEED TO BE COMPLETED.
IF WE DID NOT TAKE ACTION ON THIS TODAY AND LET'S YOU MEET WITH COMMISSIONER CLARK AND COMMISSIONER ROSA TO WORK OUT THE CONCERNS THAT HAVE BEEN EXPRESSED, WOULD, WOULD THAT BE AGREEABLE? I MEAN, WE'RE NOT GONNA DRAG OUR FEET.
NO, I MEAN THAT, THAT, THAT WOULD BE FINE.
I CAN BRING, UH, ADDITIONAL DETAILS AS BEST I CAN.
WE REALLY DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT'S HAPPENING ON THAT WEST SIDE AND PART OF IT WE DON'T CONTROL.
'CAUSE PART OF IT'S GONNA BE COMING FROM OUR NEIGHBORS AND FROM FROM, BUT I CAN SHOW YOU WHAT WE DO CONTROL.
WOULD THAT BE GOOD FOR Y'ALL? YES.
A LOT OF THIS STUFF IS DATED LIKE 2011 HAD BEEN WORKING WITH IT A LONG TIME.
I'M JUST, MY CONCERN IS, IS THAT WE DON'T INHERIT ANOTHER SUBSTANDARD ROAD THAT WE HAVE TO MAINTAIN THE COUNTY BE SUBSTANDARD.
WELL, LIKE I SAID, YOU CAN BUILD IT TO SUBDIVISION SPECIFICATIONS, BUT THAT'S NOT GOING TO HOLD UP UNDER CONSTRUCTION OF TRAFFIC.
IF THIS 5,000 ACRE DEVELOPMENT IS ACCESSED OR IF THIS IS A MAJOR ACCESS POINT IN THIS, THIS HUGE DEVELOPMENT.
I, WE NEED TO HAVE SOMETHING BUILT STANDARD SUBDIVISION REGULATION, NOT STRONG ENOUGH ROADS, THEN IT, THEY ARE FROM SUBDIVISIONS.
THEY ARE NOT DEVELOPING 5,000 ACRES.
I PROMISE YOU, YOU KNOW THAT FROM, WELL THIS IS NOT 5,000 ACRES.
WELL, IT'S GONNA BE AN ACCESS POINT.
WELL ISN'T IT NOT TIED TO THE ENTIRE LAS L WELL THE MAIN ACCESS POINT OF LAS L IS HERE, THAT ROAD THERE.
IF, IF WE HAVE OUR WAY, WE'LL NEVER GET BUILT.
CAROL WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT BUILT.
SO I OUTTA RESPECT FOR THE STEVE ROGERS IN THE CITY, I ALWAYS SHOW THAT BECAUSE, UM, THEY SAID THEY'D LIKE TO SEE THAT CONNECTION, BUT THAT'S GONNA BE AN INCREDIBLY CONNECT, EXPENSIVE CONNECTION TO GO OVER THAT OPEN SPACE.
YOU KNOW, I, I DON'T, I DON'T EVER, I DOUBT THIS WILL EVER GO AND WE WEREN'T, WEREN'T PLANNING FOR THAT BUILD.
BUT THERE MAY BE A POINT IN THE FUTURE WHERE IF, IF TERRELL'S SUCCESSFUL IN GETTING A MAJOR EMPLOYER THERE AND THEY HAVE A FEW RFPS OUT, THEN THAT'S A DIFFERENT STORY.
THEN THEY'D SAY, OKAY NOW WE NEED MORE ACCESS TO THE SITE.
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MAJOR CROSSINGS.THE BRIDGE, YOU KNOW, THERE THAT IS, IS PRESENTLY IN PLACE.
AND THEN THIS ACCESS POINT BEING A NEW ONE, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE ALL THE TRAFFIC, UH, THAT'S GOING BE USED IN THAT DEVELOPMENT, CROSSING THE SPUR IN EIGHT, IN JUST TWO POINTS.
IT'S MOST THE TRAFFIC THERE WILL COME FROM THERE.
AND THEN THE ACCESS POINTS FROM HERE WILL BE KIND OF OFF THE FIVE 70 HERE.
WE'RE GONNA ADD AN ACCESS POINT HERE AND HERE.
SO THIS THREE AXI POINTS HERE.
AND THE ONE TIME THERE WAS THAT, THAT, UH, BIG BRAIN ROAD THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO GO AROUND THE METROPLEX, I THINK IT WAS NUMBER NINE, ROUTE NINE, RIGHT? AND, AND, AND THAT, AND THEY WERE SHOWING THAT GOING THROUGH HERE.
BUT WHO KNOWS IF THAT'S GONNA, NOW IF YOU'LL PICK THAT UP THERE AGAIN, RIGHT? YEAH.
BETWEEN THE LITTLE, THE RED CIRCLE UP THERE.
AND THAT GOING ACROSS THE DOOR VERSUS THE LDR HILL TRAIL.
IF YOU CAN IMAGINE WHY WE NEED, WHY WOULD DEVELOPER BUILD THAT ROAD ACROSS THE CREEK MODEL THERE? THAT PARALLELS HIGHWAY EIGHT, WHERE THEY NOT JUST USE HIGHWAY 80.
THEY'RE NOT, THEY'RE NOT GONNA BUILD THAT ROAD ACROSS RIGHT THERE,
NORTH AND SOUTH ACCESS WOULD BE OKAY, BUT EAST AND WEST, THAT'D BE A VERY EXPENSIVE GO TO THOSE ACROSS THE CREEK DOWN THERE.
WELL, I MEAN, I, I DON'T KNOW.
IT SHOWED IT ON THE MAP, SO I, I DO IT ON THERE ONLY, YOU KNOW, UH, THE CHAMBER, DANNY HAS MAYBE A HALF A DOZEN RPS OUT THAT HAVE HUGE EMPLOYMENT AND, AND IF THAT EVER HAPPENS, THAT WOULD BE COUNTY STATE, EVERYBODY WOULD'VE TO BE INVOLVED.
AND THAT WOULD CHANGE ARGUMENT.
AND THEN YOU MIGHT EVEN ADD ANOTHER ACCESS POINT TO THE NORTH.
SO WE SHOW IT, WE DON'T HOPE AND WE WILL BUILD IT IF, IF IT, IF YOU NEED IT, BUT YOU PROBABLY DON'T.
SO RIGHT NOW IT WOULD MAINLY BE JUST RERO THE ACCESS.
AND FOR MANY YEARS, MANY YEARS.
AND I, AND I THINK THE MAYOR
I THINK RAY AND I TALKED ABOUT AN ACCIDENT THAT WAS THERE WHEN YOU FIRST CLIMB THE HEL TRAIL.
IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT A GOOD VISIBILITY SATELLITE.
WELL, I UNDERSTAND A LOT MORE THAN IDEA THAT I HAD.
SURE, I SEE THAT EXHIBIT IS NOT VERY, I DON'T YOU DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THIS TABLE, THE 10TH FRAME, WHATEVER YOU LIKE, IF Y'ALL WORK OVER THAT, I WOULD KNOW WHERE EVERYBODY GO ABOUT IT.
THAT'S WHY I SENT THIS, ALL THIS DOCUMENT.
SO YOU HAVE, WE'RE GONNA BE HAVING ANOTHER MEETING MONDAY TO ADOPT THE TAX RATE.
SO THIS IRON OUT, ANY QUESTIONS THAT MIGHT COME UP? WE AGENDA FOR NEXT 15 AND FRANK HAS A COLOR VERSION.
I'LL, I'LL AND PUT ON THE AGENDA THE 15TH.
SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER MANNING.
OPPOSED? THANK YOU VERY AND YOU GUYS FAVOR? OKAY.
THANK, MAKE SURE EVERYBODY'S CLEAR.
UH, ITEM NUMBER NINE IS TO DISCUSS, CONSIDER APPROVAL OF PRELIMINARY PLAN FOR RANCH, UH, IN COUNTY PRECINCT NUMBER ONE.
THE INFORMATION ON THAT IS WE HAVE NEW MAPS PROVIDED BY MR. LENGTH ON THIS.
I BELIEVE IT'S THAT WE'RE, WE'RE PRESENTING IT FOR ACCEPTANCE, NOT APPROVED.
I THINK THE MINUTES MIGHT BE WRONG.
SOMEONE SAW, I THOUGHT IT CHRISTMAS
PRESENTING OF PRELIMINARY PLA AND I DO HAVE THIS IN HARD COPY TO GET TO THE, UH, COUNTY ASAP.
THAT WAY THEY'LL HAVE IT PLENTY OF TIME FOR, UH, AFTER DAY PERIOD.
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SECOND.ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? FOR ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
ITEM NUMBER 10 IS TO DISCUSS CONSIDER ROAD IMPROVEMENTS IN PAVEMENT, UH, FOR IMPROVEMENTS ON SUBDIVISION ROADS.
JESSE DRIVE AND COURTNEY DRIVE IN PRECINCT TWO, 2013 PER TRANSPORTATION CODE SIX.
UH, COMMISSIONER CLARK IS PROBABLY A LITTLE MORE FAMILIAR THAN MAYBE OUR COUNTY CLERK AS TO WHAT HAS HAPPENED, UH, ON THIS IN THE PAST.
RAY WOULD LIKE TO ZIP WAS A LITTLE BIT BELIEVE IT WAS THE ROAD THAT UH, WE WENT THROUGH THE CORRECT LANE OF ADDING TO THE COUNTY ROAD MAINTENANCE LIST.
WE WENT THROUGH, I BELIEVE IT WAS IN CHAPTER 2, 58 53, 2 53.
WE WENT THROUGH ALL THE STATUTE REQUIREMENTS TO DO THIS WAY BACK WHERE WE COULD IMPROVE A SUBDIVISION ROAD AND ACCESS ALL THE PART OF THE COST TO, TO THE HOMEOWNER.
WE SENT BALANCE OUT TO THE, ALL THE HOMEOWNERS, UH, WAY BACK 2000.
WHAT WE GONNA ASSESS THEM $840 PER LOT TO DO THE ROAD IMPROVEMENT COVER COSTS.
IT WAS APPROVED BY THE MAJORITY OF THE HOMEOWNERS TO DO.
WHEN YOU DO THAT, YOU CAN EITHER, THEY COULD EITHER PAY IT OR A LIEN COULD BE FILED ON THE PROPERTY WITH NO INTEREST AND THE PROPERTY IS PAID BACK TO THE COUNTY WHEN THE PROPERTY IS BEEN.
SO SOME PROPERTIES WILL NOT WANT HAVE A LIEN.
SO SOME OF 'EM PAY THAT 40, SOME THEM MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE.
SO A LIEN COULD BE FILED ON THEIR PROPERTY.
BUT WHEN IT'S SOLD IN THE FUTURE, THE COUNTY CAN THE MONEY.
WE'VE ALREADY DONE ALL THE IMPROVEMENTS WE NEED TO, UH, I GUESS HOW DO WE ASSESS THE PROPERTY OWNER TO 40 OFF THEY $40 WILL SOMEHOW NOW WE'LL IN TURN, GO BACK TO PRECINCT ONE FOR ROAD MAINTENANCE BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING, SINCE IT STARTED UNDER PRECINCT TWO PRECINCT AND NOW IT'S MY PRECINCT.
I JUST NEED CLARIFICATION AND SOME DIRECTIONS.
HOW, HOW DO WE GO ABOUT COLLECTING, WE GET THE COUNTY CLERK TO BILL THE PROPERTY OWNERS.
UM, I DO THAT BEFORE FOLLOWING IN.
GIVE EVERYBODY THE OPPORTUNITY TO PAY.
UH, I'M NOT A PERSONAL COLLECT CLERK TO COLLECT IT.
SO I'M ASSUMING THAT WOULD BE THE PROPER PROCESS.
NOTICES HAVE ALREADY GONE OUT.
THEY HAVE NOT, AS FAR AS I KNOW, WE HAVE NOT SEEN ANY BILLS OR NOTICES.
WELL WE CERTAINLY WANT THAT PROCESS BECAUSE THE ABILITY TO CONTEST THE LANDMARKS FROM WHEN THEY GET THE NOTICE, RIGHT? WE WANT TO DO THAT, PUT THAT BEHIND US AND THE MONEY COMING IN.
OR AT LEAST HAVE THAT ASSURANCE THAT OVER PERIOD OF TIME.
BUT I THINK MONEY SHOULD GO BACK TO WHERE, WHERE THE MAINTENANCE, IF IT'S NOW RIGHT, IT'S NOW MY PRECINCT.
SO I GUESS MY, MY QUESTION IS WHAT DO WE NEED TO DO TO, UM, ALLOW THE COUNTY CLERK FOR, DO WE JUST JUST SEND OUT THE BILLS OR DO WE NEED TO TAKE SOME ACTIONS? WE NEED TO SEND OUT BILLS AND SOME PERIOD OF TIME FOR PAYMENT AND THEN NOTIFY THEM AS PART OF THE PROCESS OF GONNA PUT LANES ON THE PROPERTY.
THEY MAY OR MAY NOT BE EXCITED ABOUT THAT BECAUSE IT'S BEEN A COUPLE YEARS SINCE THE WORK WEREN'T, THE FINAL FINISHED CODE WAS JUST PUT DOWN LAST YEAR.
IT WAS JUST COMPLETED LAST YEAR.
SO THIS IS, THIS IS ONE PROCESS.
HOW YOU GO TO INCLUDE A COUNTY ROAD FOR COUNTY MAINTENANCE.
ONCE YOU DO THIS, THE STATUTE SAYS THE ROAD BECOMES THE COUNTY RESPONSIBILITY.
I DUNNO IF WE NEED TO TAKE ANY ACTION OTHER THAN AUTHORIZING THE COUNTY CLERK TO, I THINK THAT THAT DECISION HAS TO COME FROM THE AUDITOR OF WHO SHE WANTS TO COLLECT THAT THOSE FUNDS BECAUSE IT'S GONNA HAVE TO BE ALL THE PROPERTY OWNERS WHO ARE LIVING ON THAT ROAD.
AND THEN IF THEY DON'T PAY A CERTAIN LENGTH OF TIME,
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THEN WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO HAVE THOSE LIENS DRAWN UP AND SUBMITTED TO FILE.AND DON'T WE HAVE ANOTHER ROAD? WE HAVE ANOTHER ROAD THAT THIS HAS HAPPENED TO ALSO SHORTLY AFTER THE 2010 LETTER WENT OUT ON JESSE, COURTNEY AND KELLY ROAD.
UM, THE ONE THAT LEGACY? NO, THAT ONE WAS NEVER, IT WAS APPROVED.
THEY, THEY APPROVED THAT THERE WERE THE SIX HOMEOWNERS, UM, ON BEDROOM LANGUAGE YOU THINK? NO, NO, NO.
WE FOUND AND UNDER ONE OF THEM IS, UH, DWAYNE, IT'S RIGHT OFF OF RIGHT, THEY'RE RIGHT BEHIND YOUR BARN BETWEEN I TWO ONE.
OH THERE WERE BALLOTS PRINTED.
I DUNNO IF THEY PEOPLE DECIDED TO NOT DO THAT.
WE COULD FIND NO RECORD OF BALLOT BACK.
WELL WE DID THE COURT, THEY APPROVED IT.
YEAH, BUT IT WAS NEVER FOLLOWED UP.
IT WAS NEVER, IT WAS NOT IMPROVED.
SO IT IS A PRIVATE ROAD CURRENTLY.
SO JOHN, WHAT WOULD YOU SUGGEST TO DO? OH YEAH.
THE STATUTE DOESN'T SAY ANYTHING SO, SO I THOUGHT THE PERSON TO DO THAT OR DEPARTMENT TO DO THAT WOULD BE, IT DOESN'T SAY IT COULD BE THE COMMISSIONER THAT DOES IT BECAUSE IT'S A, THEIR AREA.
I'M NOT BONDED TO ACCEPT PAYMENT FROM CITIZENS.
SO I WOULD ASSUME THAT IT WOULD BE THE COUNTY CLERK'S OFFICE HONOR YOU LAURA.
CAN YOU I REALLY NEED THE AUDITOR TO SAY THAT SHE'S OKAY WITH THAT FINANCIAL ARRANGEMENT.
I'LL YEAH, AS LONG AS WE KNOW WE KNOW ABOUT IT.
YOU CAN GIVE YOU THE LINE ITEM TO PUT IT, PROCEED IT TO.
SO WE CAN WORK WITH WHICHEVER COMMISSIONER TO AND THE APPRAISAL DISTRICT TO GET A LIST OF ALL THE, WE'RE GONNA GO WITH CURRENT HOMEOWNER.
PROBABLY THE CURRENT HOMEOWNERS ARE DIFFERENT.
PROPERTY OWNERS ARE DIFFERENT NOW THAN IT WAS WHEN THIS WAS DONE IN 2010.
I LIKE THAT WOULD MAKE A DIFFERENCE BECAUSE THERE'S SOME PROPERTY OWNERS THAT PROBABLY VOTED AGAINST IT, BUT THERE'S STILL BE A SET OF TAXES.
SO IT WOULD BE CURRENT, IT WOULD BE CORRECT BECAUSE THEY'RE RECEIVING THE BENEFIT OF THE ROAD.
SO IF SOMEONE'S WAY SAY, BUT I MEAN WE'RE ASSESSING EVERYONE.
SO EVEN IF YOU VOTED AGAINST IT, YOU THAT'S RIGHT.
I GUESS PROCESS SHOULD FALL BECAUSE WHAT YOU TWO NOTIFY 'EM THAT THEY'RE NOW OFFICIALLY OWED 840.
CINDY'S GOT, CINDY'S GOT A LIST OF ALL THE, UH, PROPERTY OWNERS.
THOSE WERE THE PROPERTY OWNERS AT THE TIME IN 2011.
WE'LL HAVE TO GET IT FROM, GO TO THE ENTRY, GET NEW PROPERTY ON LIST AND SUPPLY THEM TO HOW LONG DOES THE COURT WANT TO GIVE THEM TO TAKE? PROBABLY THERE IS A STATUTE IN VERY VAGUE.
THAT'S WHY WE HAVEN'T DONE, THERE'S NOTHING IN, THERE'S NO GUIDELINES ON WHAT TO, THAT'S SO I THINK YOU COULD BE THE OWN GUY, BUT IT NEEDS TO BE FAIR TO THE PEOPLE.
SO YOU DON'T WANT, SAY YOU'RE OVER BY 30 DAYS OR SOMETHING.
WELL, BECAUSE OUR NEXT REMEDY IS, I'D SUGGEST AT LEAST 30 DAYS.
AND THEN THEY HAVE, THEY ARE NOTIFIED OF IT THEN I GUESS COULD SEND TO MCNE AN INVOICE OR TO THOSE PROPERTY OWNERS.
WELL THE NOTIFICATION WILL BE, NOTIFICATION WOULD BE, WOULDN'T BE DONE.
THEN AFTER, YOU KNOW, YOU SAY AFTER 90 DAYS WE'LL CALL LATER.
I WOULD, I WOULD, SINCE IT'S GOING BE A SURPRISE FOR SOME OF THEM I SUGGEST LEAST 90 DAYS SEND OUT NOTICE 60 DAYS MAYBE AND AND GIVE THEM THAT TIME TO PAY AND THEN MAYBE GIVE THEM A, AFTER 60 DAYS, GIVE THEM A NOTICE THAT THAT LIEN CAN BE FILED, UM, AFTER GIVE THEM MAYBE AN ADDITIONAL 30 DAYS.
WELL, AND YOU'RE SAYING I I WOULD AT LEAST 90 DAYS COMMISSIONER BECAUSE YOU'RE FIXING TO HEAD THE HOLIDAY SEASON TONIGHT.
GONNA HURT SOME PEOPLE THERE WITH LITTLE KIDS.
AND IN FAIRNESS OF THEM, IT'S GOING A DEBT THAT DOES NOT IMPROVE INTEREST.
AND SO ALTHOUGH YOU'D LIKE TO THINK, HEY, EVERYONE WILL PAY THIS SAYS THERE'S NO PENALTY FOR SIX MONTHS OR A YEAR OR IF YOU'RE NOT MONEY.
SO COSTS FOR YEARS OR THEY MAY WAIT UNTIL THEY DECIDE TO SELL THEIR PROPERTY MANY YEARS
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DOWN THE ROAD.IF THERE'S NO INTEREST, WHO WILL, IF THEY HAVE QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER CAN, CAN WE DO SOMETHING A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT? JUST IF, IF YOU AND I WOULD WORK TOGETHER WITH THE SINGLE APPRAISAL DISTRICT AND THE AUDITOR AND THE, AND THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, YOU KIND OF COME UP WITH SOME PROCEDURES AND SOME FORMS AND THEN BRING IT BACK AND LET THE COURT APPROVE THE ENTIRE PROCESS RATHER THAN YOU TRY TO LISTEN I IN AGREEMENT WITH THAT.
'CAUSE ONE OF THE THINGS, ALTHOUGH SHE MAY BE CHARGED WITH COLLECTING IT, IT'S NOT FOR HER BENEFIT BECAUSE PEOPLE COULD SEE THAT YOU, OH MY GOSH, WHY IS THE COUNTY CLERK GIVING THIS MONEY? AND SO THEY'LL NEED TO BE CLEAR THAT YOU'RE NOT GETTING THE MONEY FROM YOUR OFFICER FOR YEAH.
AND NEEDS THIS, IT NEEDS TO BE STATED THAT THEY DON'T PAY IT IN THE 90 DAYS AND THEY HAVEN'T MADE ANY KIND OF ARRANGEMENTS.
THERE IS GONNA BE A LIEN FILE.
JOHN, COULD YOU WRITE US UP SOME SURE.
DOCUMENTS, LEGAL DOCUMENT THAT WE CAN ENACT AND VOTE ON.
SO MAYBE WE CAN APPROVE CREATING THE PROCEDURES FOR VERBAL IMPROVEMENT IN PAYMENT.
AND THEN BRINGS US BACK FOR FINAL CORRESPOND.
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER LIK AND UH, SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER CLARK.
AND UH, I DUNNO WHETHER WE HAVE ANY MORE OF THESE KINDS OF SITUATIONS OUT THERE.
JUST ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT UH, ALRIGHT, WE'VE ALREADY TAKEN CARE OF.
ITEM NUMBER 11, ITEM NUMBER 12 IS DISCUSSED.
CONSIDER AWARDING RFP NUMBER 14 TAX COLLECTION SOFTWARE FOR THE COUNTY TAX.
GENERALLY WE UH, WE HAD FOUR PART RESPONDS AND THEY WERE SOUTHWEST DATA ION SAN ANTONIO TYLER HAVE COMMITTEE FOUR FOLKS, UH, DEBBIE BOGAR, MORTON, MR. CALLAHAN.
AND UH, WE AS YOU KNOW, R PROCESS WE ALL AND GRADING SYSTEM S DATA SCORE 69 61, UH, SCORE 59 AND ACT FIRST $8,000.
AND I THINK, UH, THAT'S A DISCOUNTED PRICE FOR THE FIRST YEAR.
UH, THE YEAR THE PRICE WOULD BE 54,000.
AND I THINK THERE ARE SOME FEES FOR ENTITIES THAT I UNDERSTAND THOSE CAN PASS ALONG TO THE ENTITIES.
UH, UH, I'LL, WITH ALL THIS WE'D LIKE TO DRAW ATTENTION TO EVERYBODY THAT UH, UH, THERE IS PART OF CONTRACT DOES STATE THAT UH, IN THE EVENT OF TERMINATION OF COLLECTION LINE FEE FIVE TAX ACCOUNT IS SO TO DISCOUNT YOU'RE A MEMBER.
IF YOU LINE, YOU GET DISCOUNTED.
IF YOU USE THEM, YOU DO NOT BE DISCOUNTED.
SO I THINK WE'RE HAVING LINE, JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THEY THAT FROM ROAD CONTRACT GOES SOFTWARE IN CASE THAT'S, I CASE WE'RE ALL OUT HERE WHEN IT HAPPENED.
SOMEONE DETERMINE THE CONTRACT.
HOW WOULD SOMEBODY ELSE DO THE CONTRACT YOU WANT? YOU WOULD WANNA TERMINATE IT IF YOU WERE TO SOME REASON, UH, TERMINATE LINE BAR AS YOUR ATTORNEY, YOU'D WANNA ALSO TERMINATE THIS COMPANY AS YOUR SOFTWARE
SOUND LIKE YOU DIDN'T HELD FOR MINUTE PUT YOU EXACTLY NOT YOU'RE DISCOUNT BY USING THEM TO GET DISCOUNT THEIR SOFTWARE GUESS SENSE.
WELL EVEN YOU CAN TELL BY THE SCORING THIS PARTICULAR PROGRAM
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IS BY FAR SUPERIOR TO THE OTHER SOFTWARE PROGRAMS THAT WE LOOK AT.AND IT'S BUILT BY THE LAW FIRM WHO'S USED TO WORKING WITH ALL THE TAXING ENTITIES SO THEY KNOW EXACTLY WHAT WE NEED AND WHAT, AND THEY'VE PERFECTED IT OVER THE YEARS.
THEIR, UH, TRUTH AND TAXATION IS NOT AN EXTRA COST LIKE WE PAY NOW.
UH, WE DON'T HAVE, THEY HAVE A SUPERIOR, UM, ACCOUNTING PROGRAM THAT'S INCLUDED IN THEIR PROGRAM.
WE PAY EXTRA FOR A VERY CUMBERSOME PROGRAM.
UH, THEY HAVE A, A MUCH BETTER MODULE FOR ACCOUNTING.
THEY HAVE LIQUOR MODULES AND ST VT MODULES THAT ARE BASICALLY ALL THE MODULES THAT WE NEED THAT WE DON'T CURRENTLY HAVE.
THEY'RE FULLY FUNCTIONING, THEY'RE, THEY'RE AUTOMATED IN A WAY THAT OURS ARE NOT AUTOMATED.
PLUS THEY HAVE LIKE OVER A THOUSAND LETTERS THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN APPROVED BY ATTORNEYS.
THAT FOR JUST ABOUT EVERY OCCASION YOU THINK OF THAT YOU PULL OUT AND PUT YOUR NAME ON 'EM TO SEND OUT TO PEOPLE.
UM, THEY'RE JUST THE, IT CONTAINS ALL THE MODULES AND EVERYTHING THAT WE NEED TO, TO MAKE US A FULLY FUNCTIONING TAX OFFICE IN A MUCH BETTER WAY THAN WE'RE NOW.
AND I'D REALLY, UH, APPRECIATE IT IF WE CAN HAVE THIS PROGRAM.
AND HOW LONG WERE YOU DATE FOR? WHAT'S THE INITIAL TERM OF THE CONTRACT? I DON'T KNOW.
WE'RE SIGNING YEAR CONTRACT WITH, LET ME BACK UP THERE.
THERE ACTUALLY, UH, SOME HAVEN YOU DON'T HAVE ANY PAPERWORK.
THE CONTRACT MAY HAVE WORKED ON THAT SPEED.
SO MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE AWARDED AT UH, PENDING APPROVAL FROM JOHN LONG.
SO WE'RE WORKING ON CONTRACT I'D THE CONTRACT BEFORE WE APPROVE IT.
TYPICALLY WE, WE UH, UH, DO THAT PENDING APPROVAL BY COUNSEL.
UH, HAS JOHN FINAL COPY YET? UH, I'VE GOT A ROUGH DRAFT THAT I'VE RECEIVED AND A FINAL, FINAL DRAFT TODAY.
IS THIS A TIME CRITICAL THING? I MEAN IS THIS SOMETHING ONLY THE IT NEEDS TO BE APPROVED SO WE DON'T HAVE IT.
IT YES, IN A SENSE IT'S BECAUSE THEY'RE GONNA START, UH, IN THE NEXT MONTH THEY'RE GONNA START GIVING US PARTS OF IT SO WE CAN LEARN THE NEW PROGRAM A LITTLE OUTTA TIME AND THEY'RE GONNA START OFF WITH THE ACCOUNTING SOFTWARE AND DO JUST PARTS, SOME OF THESE MODULES GIVING US SOME OF THESE MODULES.
UH, MONTH AT A TIME UNTIL MARCH WE'LL GET THE, THE ACTUAL UH, FULL PROGRAM.
SO I WOULD LIKE TO TYPICALLY WE, WE DON'T CONTRACT NOT PART FASHION, SOMETHING PURE CALL.
OBVIOUSLY IT'S NOT UNCOMMON TO AWARD ATIONAL.
WE'VE DONE OUR WORK ATTORNEY, WE DID IT
I THINK WHAT WE NEED TO LOOK AT BENEFIT TO THE PRODUCT IS THERE'S ZERO CAPEX, THERE'S ZERO CAPITAL EXPENDITURE IN PART OF THE COUNTY.
UH, DISASTER RECOVERY, BUSINESS CONTINUITY IS IN PLACE 'CAUSE THIS IS A SOFTWARE AS A SERVICE OR CLOUD-BASED PRODUCT.
IT'S SERVED UP FROM THEIR REMOTE LOCATION.
SO THE NETWORK SECURITY, THERE'S NO CAPITAL EXPENDITURE AND IT'S REALLY A WIN-WIN FOR THE COMPANY 'CAUSE WE CAN, WE CAN FORECAST OUR EXPENDITURE WITHOUT WORRYING ABOUT BUYING HARDWARE, DOING ALL THESE OTHER THINGS.
SO THAT'S ONE REALLY BIG SELLING POINT TO US.
AND AS FAR AS BUSINESS CONTINUITY AND BACKUPS ARE DONE THE WAY WE DO IT NOW, BUT IN ADDITION IT'S ALL DONE IN THE CLOUD.
SO IF THERE'S AN ISSUE WITH HAY BUILDING AND COUNTY, WE'RE IN THE, WE COLLECT X COMMISSIONER AND THIS ISED ALREADY.
UH, I'D ALSO LIKE TO ADD TO THAT.
UH, GONNA WORK WITH, THEY'RE HOLD OFF KIND OF BECAUSE THEY REALIZE WE NEED TO CANCEL WITH TRUE AUTOMATION AT SOME POINT.
THEY MAY OVERLAP A MINIMAL OVERLAP, BUT GOAL IS TO TURN ONE OFF AND ONE OFF.
WE BUDGETED FOR BOTH SOFTWARES SO WE COULD HAVE AN OVER OVERLAPPING BUT WE DID REDUCE BOTH OF THEM BECAUSE WE'RE NOT GONNA USE ONE SOFTWARE THE WHOLE YEAR.
WE'RE FIXING THE TRANSFER OVER.
SO WE DID CUT THE BUDGETS ON BOTH THE ONE BECAUSE SO GOOD ABOUT SAYING WE'RE GOING, IF YOU PASS IT, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND START GIVING YOU PARTS OF IT BEFORE WE START CHARGING.
SO YOU GET USED TO THE SOFTWARE BECAUSE IT WILL BE A CHANGE.
WE'LL HAVE TO LEARN NEW SOFTWARE.
UH, THE BIGGER THEY ALSO ALL OUR SUITS, UH, SEIZURES, BANKRUPTCIES AND ALL THE LEGAL THINGS THAT WE DO WITH BERG ACROSS THE COUNTY, UH,
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EVERYTHING THAT HAPPENS IN THE COURT, UH, THEY AUTOMATICALLY FEED THAT INTO OUR SYSTEM.SO THEY, THEY TAKE CARE OF PUTTING MANUAL ALL THE INPUT AND THEN THEY FEED IT INTO OUR SYSTEM.
SO WHEREAS WE'RE COMING BACK NOW FROM COURT AND TYPE IN WHAT HAPPENED EACH TIME IT'S GONNA BE AN AUTOMATIC FEED AND THAT'S ANOTHER GREAT FEATURE THAT THEY HAVE.
WHAT'S YOUR PLAN IF THE PURCHASING AGENT AND IT FEELS COMFORTABLE WITH IT AND TAX ASSESSOR? I WOULD JUST, YOU KNOW, I WOULD LIKE TO, SO PENDING APPROVED BY THE UH, COUNCIL COMMISSIONER ROSA MAKES THAT MOTION TO APPROVE OR PENDING APPROVAL BY COUNSEL I AND SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER STANLEY.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
A OPPOSED ALL I KNOW EVERYBODY GETTING TIRED.
AND I HAVE ONE OTHER ITEM THAT I'D LIKE TO TAKE CARE OF.
THANK THEY HAVE TWO OTHER ITEMS RIGHT NOW.
LET'S GO AHEAD AND UH, MOVE TO ITEM 13.
AND THIS IS DISCUSSED CONSIDERING ENTERING INTO A CONTRACT WITH COER DATA BANK FOR DISTRICT CLERK CASE FILE IMAGING AND INDEXING.
AND I KNOW WE HAVE SOME FOLKS HERE TODAY FROM THIS COMPANY.
RHONDA, IF YOU COME ON UP AND KAREN AND ANYBODY ELSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO JOIN, THIS IS A, UH, MOVE ON PART OF THE DISTRICT CLERK TO START DIGITIZING SOME OF THE UH, RECORDS WE HAVE IN THE, A LOT OF THE OLD LIBRARY ACROSS THE STREET FROM MY OFFICE AND THOSE OUT.
SO WE'VE GOT A WHOLE GROUP OF FOLKS HERE JUST ANXIOUS TO, TO TALK ABOUT THIS.
AND SO JACK, YOU GOT A LOT OF BACKUP THERE.
UH, WELL I GUESS WE, YOU KNOW, DISTRICT COURT'S OFFICE HAS, HAS BEEN
WE'VE USED A COUPLE VENDORS IN THE PAST AND WE HAD FOUND OUT BANK, KAREN FOUND BOAT, THEY'VE BEEN NEGOTIATING BACK AND FORTH AND UH, THERE HAVE BEEN SITE VISITS.
SO ANYTHING BID THEY NEGOTIATED PRICE AND I THINK THE PRICE, I KNOW YOU AND KAREN HAVE SPENT QUITE A BIT OF TIME WITH THESE FOLKS, UH, WORKING THROUGH THIS WITH GEORGE.
SO YOU WANT, GIVE US YOUR THOUGHTS.
WE RESEARCHED QUITE A FEW COMPANIES THAT SAID THAT THEY DID INDEXING INTO TYLER.
SOME OF THOSE SAID THAT THEY COULD DO IT, BUT WE HAVE TWO DIFFERENT SYSTEMS WHICH WOULD COST US MORE MONEY.
WE WANTED SOMEONE THAT COULD UPLOAD OUR DOCUMENT INTO ODYSSEY, OUR CASE MANAGEMENT SYSTEM THAT WE'RE USING NOW.
AND WE LOOKED AT ONE, WE WENT ON TOURS, VISIT ALSO DATA BANK.
WE WERE VERY PLEASED WITH WHAT DATA BANK OFFICE OFFER US.
AND KAREN HAS DONE DETAILED, DETAILED RESEARCH.
SHE'S GOT PRICING, SHE'S DONE FOOT OF WHAT'S GONNA COST TO GET OUR INDEXING IN.
AND I KNOW YOU'RE ALL AWARE OF OUR PROBLEM THAT WE HAVE ACROSS THE STREET IN THE OLD LIBRARY.
WE'VE HAD OUR BEFORE FALL IN ONCE ON US AND WE'VE HAD THAT FIXED AND WE'RE WANTING TO GET ALL OUR DOCUMENTS UPLOADED INTO OUR SYSTEM SO WE CAN COME SOME OF FILES AND WE ALSO HAVE THE STORY OUT AT SOUTH CAMPUS.
KAREN HAS, SHE COULD TELL YOU MORE ABOUT IT.
SHE HAS BEEN MY PROJECT MANAGER AND I'M THERE
BUT THE WORK THAT SHE HAS DONE FOR US AND FOR THE COUNTY BEFORE SHE BEGINS.
ONE QUESTION, IS THIS MANDATED BY THE STATE THAT WE HAVE TO DO THIS IN A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TIME? NO, WE THERE, THERE'S NOT A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TIME THAT WE HAVE TO GET IT DONE.
WE'RE LOOKING AT OUR REASON WHY WE WANT TO GET IT DONE QUICKLY IS BECAUSE OF THE HAZARD THAT WE HAVE ACROSS.
WE'VE HAD ONE OF OUR SHELVING FALL OVER, NOT ON US.
AND SO WE'VE GOT A MAJOR PROBLEM OVER THERE AND OUR BOOKS IS, WE ARE MANDATED TO GET THOSE DONE AND WE'RE ALL, WE'RE GONNA GET THOSE DONE ALSO.
ARE THE BOOKS INCLUDED IN THIS OR THAT'S THAT'S A SEPARATE ISSUE.
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HUNDRED 50,000 FOR THE BEGINNING PROJECT.IT'S NOT INCLUDED EBOOK THAT ARE MANDATED.
SO WE'RE COPYING, WE'RE IMAGING SOMETHING THAT IS NOT MANDATED AND WE'RE NOT IMAGING SOMETHING THAT IS MANDATED.
WE'RE GOING TO GET 'EM ALL DONE IN.
WELL I UNDERSTAND BUT I MEAN JUST TO BE CLEAR, THAT'S WHAT'S HAPPENING.
RIGHT NOW OUR MAINLY BECAUSE OF OUR STORAGE FACILITY.
AND OUR BOOKS ARE STORED AWAY TO WHERE THEY WON'T BE DAMAGED UNTIL WE GET TO THOSE BUT OUR FILES.
SO IN ESSENCE, IF WE HAD A PROPER STORAGE FACILITY, WE WOULDN'T HAVE TO SPEND $150,000.
NOW IT'S NOT MANDATED IN ORDER TO GET US WHERE WE NEED TO BE WITH OUR EFI THAT WE'RE MANDATED ON, UH, JANUARY THE FIRST, IT'S GONNA BE CRITICAL THAT WE GET THOSE SCAN AND IF NOT WE WILL BE TRANSFERRING FILES BACK AND FORTH DAILY.
'CAUSE WE'RE STILL USING THOSE FILES.
UH, THE SUMMARY THAT YOU RECEIVED, POINTS ONE AND TWO ON THE BOTTOM.
THE INITIAL PHASE THAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT, UH, WE HAVE APPROXIMATELY $150,000 TO SCREEN THIS TIME AND THAT IS ABOUT 1 MILLION PAGES AS YOU SAW ON THE SHEET THAT SHOWED YOU THE LOCATION AND THE TOTALS.
THIS WILL BE APPROXIMATELY 40% OF THE FILES THAT ARE ACROSS THE STREET AND 20% OF THE OVERALL PROJECT.
WHEN IT'S ALL SAID AND DONE, WE WILL HAVE FILES FROM SOVEREIGNTY TILL 2012 IS OUR CUTOFF.
SO AS YOU CAN SEE THAT COVERS QUITE A LARGE AMOUNT OF TIME.
WE HAVE THOUSAND THREE LOCATIONS.
WE HAVE, UH, QUITE A FEW ACROSS THE STREET IN SOUTH CAMPUS IN THE OLD GYM OR WHATEVER THAT ROOM WAS.
AND SO WE HAVE TWO PLACES THAT WE GO CONSTANTLY TO PULL FILES AND WHEN THIS IS COMPLETED, THAT WILL NOT BE NECESSARY.
WHEN THE FILES COME BACK TO US, WE WILL GO THROUGH AND GET RID OF ANY OF THE PLEADINGS THAT ARE NOT NECESSARY.
WE'LL KEEP ANYTHING THAT IS SIGNED BY A JUDGE BECAUSE WE FEEL LIKE THAT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO DO, BUT THAT WILL GREATLY REDUCE OUR NEED FOR STORAGE.
WHEN YOU SAY IT'S 4%, APPROXIMATELY HOW MUCH OF THIS WILL ELIMINATE, HOW MUCH WILL THIS ELIMINATE ACROSS THE STREET? THIS 150,000 WILL COVER APPROXIMATELY 40% OF THE RECORD.
20% OF THE, THE TOTAL PROJECT.
SO WE NEED ANOTHER 200,000 OR SO TO COMPLETE EVERYTHING ACROSS THERE.
WOULD THAT BE CORRECT? YES SIR.
WELL, I'M, WE NEED TO SPEND AS MUCH MONEY AS WE CAN TO GET OUTTA THAT BUILDING OVER THERE BEFORE ONE OF OUR EMPLOYEES GET SOME SEVERE RECORDS.
AND THE THIS IS WILL BE PAID FROM THE DISTRICT CLERK RECORDS PRESERVATION FUND.
WE HAVE APPROXIMATELY 70,000 OF IN THERE TO GET STARTED.
SO IT, UH, THIS IS, IT'S THERE TO BE USED AND IT'S A PROJECT THAT PROBABLY NEEDS TO BE DONE, GET IT ALL DONE IN ONE YEAR PROBABLY.
BUT IT'S, IT'S MONEY THAT'S COLLECTED FOR THIS PURPOSE THAT SHOULD BE USED FOR THIS.
WOULD THAT HUNDRED $50,000 COVER THE BOOKS THAT ARE MANDATED THAT WE OBSERVED OR WE IMAGE? WE HAD ABOUT 12, WE HAD 18 TOTAL ON THE LIST, JUST UNDER A HUNDRED THOUSAND.
SO IT WOULD EASILY COVERED THE IMAGING THAT MANDATED FOR THE BOOKS AND WE'RE STILL ACROSS THE STREET.
I'M JUST THINKING IF WE HAD A PROPER STORAGE FACILITY, WE COULD IMAGE EVERYTHING THAT IS MANDATED AND HAVE MONEY LEFT OVER.
SO REALLY OUR ISSUE IS THAT THE STORAGE FACILITY IS, I MEAN I KNOW THIS IS GONNA BE BENEFICIAL TO A POINT.
IT WOULD BE, IT WOULD GREATLY BENEFIT OUR OFFICE BECAUSE UM, THE FILES THAT WE WORK IN ARE MOSTLY, I MEAN WE DO HAVE A LOT OF PENDING FILES IN OUR OFFICE.
WE HAVE A LOT OF CLOSED FILES THAT WE STILL WORK IN DAILY.
WE MAKE TRIPS ACROSS THE AND THIS WOULD ELIMINATE THAT, CORRECT? YES, BECAUSE THOSE FILES WILL BE UPLOADED INTO OUR SYSTEM.
IT'S GONNA ELIMINATE A LOT OF WELL COPYING, COPYING COST AS WELL PAPER AND THE COST OF THE COPYING MACHINE.
HOW LONG WILL IT TAKE YOUR FUND THAT THIS IS COMING OUT TO 50,000.
HOW MANY YEARS? IT WOULD BE YEARS.
UH, THE DISTRICT CLERK BEFORE ME SAN FE.
I DON'T THINK I'VE EVER USED ANY OF THAT MONEY.
SO WE COULD POSSIBLY LOOK AT THIS OUT OF POCKET EXPENSE TO COMPLETE THE IMAGING BECAUSE IN THE FUTURE I'M SAYING CORRECT BECAUSE WE'RE NOT, WE'RE GONNA ALMOST ELIMINATE ALL OUR FUNDS.
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I WONDER IF YOU HAD ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE GENTLEMAN FROM DATABANK HERE AND ALSO FROM GEORGE.UH, WE MET, ONE OF OUR CRITERIA WAS THAT WE WANTED TO DEAL ONLY WITH ONE COMPANY.
WE WANTED TO DEAL WITH AN IMAGING COMPANY AND THEN WE WANTED THAT COMPANY TO DEAL WITH TYLER TECHNOLOGIES WHO HAS OUR ODYSSEY CASE MANAGEMENT.
AND WE FOUND TWO COMPANIES THAT WERE WILLING TO DO THAT AND DATABANK WE FELT LIKE, UM, WAS THE BETTER WAY TO VOTE FOR US BECAUSE THERE IS A SIGNIFICANT COST SAVINGS TO THESE FOLKS AND THEY'VE BEEN EXTREMELY HOW MUCH COST SAVINGS? 6 CENTS A PAGE FOR 4.7 MILLION PAGES IS ABOUT $282,000 THE PROJECT AS COMPARED TO THE OTHER VENDOR, THAT WOULD BE THE SAME COMPARED TO OTHER COMPARED COMPARED TO THE OTHER VENDOR.
IT WOULD SAVE THE COUNTY 282,000 OVER THE ENTIRE PROJECT.
UH, WE HAVE GREAT CONFIDENCE IN THIS COMPANY.
UH, THEY HAVE BEEN VERY RESPONSIVE TO ANY QUESTIONS.
THEY HAVE BEEN VERY RESPONSIVE TO PARTICULAR ISSUES AND CONCERNS THAT WE HAD.
KIND OF TECHNICAL THINGS AND THEY'VE NOT ONLY BEEN HELPFUL TO ANSWER QUESTIONS, BUT THEY'VE COME UP WITH A COUPLE OF SOLUTIONS THAT HAVE BEEN VERY HELPFUL.
SO THEY'RE VERY ACTIVE IN HELPING MAKE THIS PROJECT SUCCESSFUL.
WHAT'S THE COST? I'M SURE THERE'S A TITLE COST TO ACCESS THAT THAT'S ON THEM.
OH, THAT'S INCLUDING COMMISSIONER OUR MEETING UP THERE AT TYLER.
WHAT WE DID IS WE, WE ALL MET TOGETHER IN A ROOM UP HERE AND GO THROUGH ALL THE DETAILS, NETWORK SECURITY, HOW THEY'RE GONNA GET THEIR DATA, HOW WE'RE GONNA PASS IMAGES BACK TO TYLER.
UM, WE BROUGHT UP THE IDEA OF SGE COMPLIANCE BECAUSE WE, YOU KNOW, CRIMINAL DATA, YOU KNOW, THERE'S THINGS THAT FROM HOUSEKEEPING WE NEEDED BEFORE WE GET TO THAT COURT.
THAT'S WHY, YOU KNOW, WE ALL MET AND WE THOUGHT WE, WE GET TO ON THE AGENDA, WE GET ALL THE HOUSEKEEPING THINGS DONE.
UM, THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO, UM, GET BACKGROUND CHECK FINGERPRINT ON BECAUSE THEY'RE GONNA USE OUR I TO GO FORWARD WITH CRIMINAL AND WE WANTED TO TEST AND HAVE THEM GIVE THEM ACCESS TO HOT TO THE DATABASE.
BUT WE FELT UNTIL THERE'S AN OFFICIAL RELATIONSHIP WITH THE COUNTY, WE'D BE MORE TO DO THAT.
SO WE'RE, WE'RE A, WE'RE A HOLE RIGHT NOW UNTIL WE GET A, A RULING FOR OUR COURT.
SO WE CAN GO FORWARD WITH THE, AND IN BETWEEN THESE GUYS AND TYLER, YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE A DOCUMENT TO PROTECTION TO PROTECT THEIR IP, THEIR INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY, THAT PART OF OUR DEAL.
UM, ALL WE CARE ABOUT IS SECURITY ACCESSING OUR DATA.
AS WITH ANY OTHER, OTHER QUESTIONS FOR ANYBODY? WHAT'S YOUR PLEASURE? I MOVE, WE CONTRACT WITH COMMISS DEADLINE AND PENDING WE HAVE CONTRACT.
NO, I THINK WE HAVE SOME THAT WE, HE NEEDS TO GET DONE THAT WE CAN'T DO PENDING, PENDING ATTORNEYS BREWER.
OKAY, WE HAVE A SECOND FROM UH, COMMISSIONER SHANE.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? I WOULD LIKE TO SEE FUTURE COURT.
ALRIGHT, ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
APPRECIATE Y'ALL BEING HERE OF MAKE YOU SAY SO LONG, SIR, BEFORE WE TAKE A BREAK, I HAVE ONE OTHER ITEM I WOULD LIKE.
UH, KATHY MORRIS HAS BEEN AN EMPLOYEE OF OUR COUNTY FOR 25, 28 YEARS OR GIVE OR TAKE A FEW.
YEAH, THERE'S ONE ABOUT ALMOST A YEAR AND LEFT AND CAME BACK.
AND SO, UH, KATHY WILL BE RETIRING HERE ON SEPTEMBER THE 18TH OF LATE 19TH.
AND SO WE WANTED TO, SHE'S GONNA WORK ONE MORE DAY.
I FIGURE WE GOT ONE MORE DAY OUT.
ANYWAY, THIS IS, UH, WE SPENT A LITTLE MORE MONEY ON THE, UH, PLAQUE I THINK THIS TIME.
NOT THE PLAQUE WITH THE FRAME.
AND THIS IS IN RECOGNITION AND SINCERE APPRECIATION OF KATHY MORRIS WHO SERVED IN MANY POSITIONS.
UH, HER MOST RECENT ONE IS THE DIRECTOR OF OUR COUNTY PUBLIC
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WORKS AND WE EXPRESS OUR GRATITUDE FOR YOUR 28 YEARS OF SERVICE TO CAMAN COUNTY CITIZENS OF CAMAN COUNTY, TEXAS AND THE COUNTY, UH, PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT, AS WELL AS ALL THE OTHER AREAS YOU'VE WORKED WITH.AND SO WE WANTED TO PRESENT THIS TO YOU AND WISH YOU WELL ON YOUR RETIREMENT AND DON'T LOOK DAY THAN WHEN I STARTED.
NO, I I APPRECIATE EVERYBODY'S FRIENDSHIP HELP.
GET ALONG WITH ALL STOP, STOP.
ALRIGHT, OUT NUMBER 14, WE'LL CALL THE COURT BACK TO ORDER IS TO DISCUSS CENTER LINE ITEM TRANSFERS.
DID EVERYBODY GET YOUR EMAIL AND LOOK AT THESE LINE ITEM TRANSFERS.
UH, NOW THERE'S QUITE A FEW OF PLANS.
UM, ONE THING I DO WANT TO CHANGE AND I NEED YOUR APPROVAL.
UH, THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY HAD SAVED SOME MONEY WHEN YOU APPROVE THIS EXTRA POSITIONS AND FROM SOME OTHER LINE ITEMS THAT SHE'S GOT AND HER ASSET FORFEITURE, SHE WANTS TO BUY A VEHICLE.
UH, THEY HAVE TWO VEHICLES THAT NEED REPLACE IN AND SHE'S WANTING TO DO ONE.
THE LINE ITEM TRANSFER I PREPARED WAS THE 10,000 AND RIGHT BEFORE COURT SHE SAID HE GAVE HER A NEW ESTIMATE WE HAVE TO BUY BEFORE SEPTEMBER 30TH.
SO I'M GONNA ASK THAT THE 10,000 BE CHANGED TO 12,000.
THE REST OF IT'S GONNA BE PAID OUT OF HER ASSET FORFEITURE PLAN.
THAT WAS GONNA BE MY QUESTION.
I WANTED KNOW WHERE YOU COULD BUY A BAG 10,000
DO THEY STILL BUY YOU BASE AUCTION HERE? YEAH, SHE IS WORKING ON ANOTHER ITEM WITH THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT OVER SOME OTHER STUFF AND SHE HAS SOME ADDITIONAL MONIES, TAKES A WHILE.
YOU KNOW HOW THAT GOES BECAUSE LIKE ON THE, THE PRISONER THING, HOW LONG THAT'LL TAKE AND WHEN SHE GETS THAT ACTUALLY THE BANK WE WILL PROBABLY COME BACK FOR THE NEXT BUDGET AND ASK IF SHE CAN BUY ANOTHER VEHICLE.
REPLACE THE OTHER, THE LAST ONE.
SO IS THE VEHICLE SHE'S GOING TO REPLACE, IS IT FALL UNDER THE GUIDELINES OF OUR VEHICLE POLICY AS FAR AS AGE AND MILEAGE? JACK? WELL, WELL I HAVEN'T SEEN IT BUT I'M ASSUMING IT DOES.
I THINK IT HAS LIKE 166, SOMETHING LIKE THAT THOUSAND MILES ON IT.
ONLY I GONNA ADD THAT TOO IS I'M NOT SURE ABOUT THE YEAH, IT PROBABLY WILL BE A PROBLEM AND WE'LL HAVE TO BRING IT BACK COURT TO FIX THAT PROBLEM.
I REMIND YOU THAT, YOU KNOW, WE BROUGHT IT HERE AND WHAT KIND OF WELL, I, COUPLE MONTHS BACK, SO COUPLE I GOT THOUSAND LIMITED.
WE'RE WE'RE RAISING IT TO 20,012 OUT THE GENERAL EIGHT OUTTA ASSET.
SHE JUST HAD TEXT ME AND ASKED ME IF I COULD HANDLE THAT INCREASE AND I SAID I PRESENT IT TO YOU.
I DON'T THINK WE HAVE ANY YOU WHAT, WHAT IS THIS FOR THE INVESTIGATORS OR USE OR YEAH, AND SHE HAS IS IT TWO CARS OR THREE CARS? SHE HAS, I NOT I I I KNOW TWO AND MAYBE THREE.
BUT IS SHE IS FOR USE BY THE INVESTIGATORS WHERE THEY GO OUT ON HER BEHALF TO OBJECT WITH WITNESSES? RIGHT.
I WOULD UH, I WOULD SUGGEST THAT WE WAIT AND SEE WHAT KIND OF UH, VEHICLE SURPLUS WE MAY HAVE FROM THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT ONCE WE IMPLEMENT OUR VEHICLE POLICY.
THE, THE VEHICLE UH, BEING MANDATED THAT THEY USE YOU KNOW, 40% OF THEIR DAY OR MORE OR THEY'RE NOT ALLOWED TO HAVE A, A VEHICLE THAT ONE OUTTA A POOL.
UM, I FEEL, I THINK AND WE HAVEN'T GOT ANY RESPONSE FROM THE SHERIFF.
I DON'T THINK THEY HAVE, YOU KNOW, THAT FALL I SAID THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S TIME SENSITIVE.
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I DON'T, I DUNNO IF THAT'S SOMETHING WE SHOULD LOOK AT THIS.DID YOU NOT SAY THIS TIME SENSITIVE? YEAH, WELL WE TOLD HER SHE HAD TO FOR THE THIS YEAR SINCE SHE HAD THAT EXTRA MONEY LEFT.
WHAT WILL HAPPEN TO THAT? IT GOES BACK INTO THE GENERAL CLAIM BALANCE AND THEN WE COULD ALLOCATE IT LATER FOR A VEHICLE IS NECESSARY.
NOT NECESSARILY BECAUSE WE FROZE THE BUDGET WHEN YOU ADOPTED IT WHILE AGO.
WE, WE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO, IT'S NOT A GOOD IDEA TO HIT A BALANCE UNLESS YOU JUST HAVE TO.
I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT IF THE VIDEO, THE REPLACE GOT 160,000 MILES ON IT BUT HE'S CAPITAL MURDER TRIALS COMING UP, I WOULD THINK THAT THAT THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY PROBABLY NEEDS GOT A VEHICLE 60,000 MILES INVESTIGATOR GOING BACK AND FORTH OR WHATEVER HE IS DOING OR WHATEVER THE CASE IS.
SEEMS LIKE SHE TOLD ME STEVE'S MORE THAN ONE OR WOULD PREFER TO HAVE MORE THAN ONE.
SHE WANTED UH, A SEDAN IN A TRUCK AND SHE'S WAITING FOR THE FEDERAL MONEY TO COME BACK ON THIS SPECIAL DEAL SHE MADE FOR THEM TO WORK ON SOME STUFF AND THEN SHE WAS GOT HELP BY THE TRUCK.
IS THIS THE REPLACEMENT CATEGORY WHERE SHE SHE'S GONNA ONE OF THE BUT I CERTAINLY THINK SO.
UH, WE WON'T LET HER BUY IT UNLESS SHE AGREE TO TURN IT IN.
SAID THAT'S PART OF THE POLICY.
YOU HAVE TO RETURN IN ROLLING STOCK.
SO SHE WOULD USE $12,000 OF UNUSED FUNDS AND THEN IN THE GENERAL FUND OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND, THE REST WOULD COME OUT OF HER UH, ASSET ASSET FUND, WHICH IS THE FUND THAT'S DALLAS COUNTY'S BEEN HAVING DISCUSSION ABOUT.
YEAH, HE USED IT FOR HIS PERSONAL USE.
SO WHAT'S YOUR PLEASURE AS FAR AS THE OTHER LINE ITEM? TRANSFERS ARE NOT ONLY THE OTHERS BUT INCLUDING THIS ONE.
MAKE A MOTION, APPROVE LINE ITEM TRANSFER.
HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE LINE ITEM TRANSFERS THAT'S PRESENTED BY THE AUDITOR.
UH, WE HAVE A SECOND FROM, UH, COMMISSIONER MANNING.
A THOSE POSTS ITEM NUMBER UH, 1315 IS TO CONSIDER CLAIMS FOR PAYMENT.
UH, YOUR CLAIMS PER PAYMENT ARE 1,000,080 3000 553 0 2.
UH, I'VE ASKED KW TO START A NEW PROCEDURE.
I'M NOT GONNA PASS THESE AROUND THE LINE TRANSFER.
YOU LOOK AT WHO HAVE THEY BEEN EMAILED TO ALSO I'LL PASS THESE AROUND BECAUSE YOU USUALLY LIKE TO LOOK AT BILLS.
YOU HAVE QUESTIONS? ONE SHEET TO SIGN THAT HAS ALL THE TRANSFERS AND ALL THE BILLS.
WE EMAIL IT TO OUT THAT THEY GET OUR COPY WITH THE SIGNATURES NEXT TO THEIR COPY AND WE HAVE TO FIND OUT WHICH COMMISSIONER HAS OUR COPY.
DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING HIGHLIGHTED ALREADY THAT YOU WANTED TO ASK FOR ABOUT I DID NOT.
WELL I DIDN'T, I'M INITIAL UP AT THE TOP RIGHT HAND CORNER JUST SO SURE THE RIGHT ONE.
TO START IN JANUARY, YOU HAVE WHOLE NEW PROCESS.
YOU'RE GONNA DOCUSIGN K'S GONNA PUT YOUR SIGNATURES ELECTRONICALLY ON RE THERE.
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CAN YOU PAY COUNTY BOYS FOR TWO DIFFERENT JOBS? CAN YOU PAY IN REFERENCE TO THAT'S WHAT I DAVIS THAT'S PAID.UM, IS IT, THAT'S 10 FOR PSYCHIATRIC PAYING SALARY TO DO THAT REGULAR.
YEAH, BUT THIS AIN'T, THIS IS CHARGED FUNDING PER IS IT THE, THE $1,800 FUND? NO, IT'S HUNDRED 75.
OH THIS WAS TAKEN OUT OF THE DISTRICT COURT.
SIXTH JUDICIAL COURT ASKED FOR.
YEAH, THIS IS MORE LIKE IS HE A FULLTIME EMPLOYEE? YEAH, HE WORKS FOR THE JAIL AS THEIR DOCTOR.
AS AN ORDER FROM, WHAT WAS IT IN THE MATTER OF? I KNOW HE DOES A LOT WORK.
UM, THE PROBATION DEPARTMENT AND THEY PAY HIM SEPARATELY OUT THEIR FUNDS.
BUT I'VE NEVER SEEN IT THROUGH FUND 10.
THAT'S WHEN YOU CALLED IT THIS ON PERSON, THIS PERSON AND THANK YOU.
WHAT DOES HE GET PAID TO DO? UNITED HIS DUTIES? I MEAN DOES HE DOES FOR YEAH, THERE'S NOT A WHOLE LOT OF THIS ONE WAS THROUGH.
THAT PROBABLY IS SOMETHING YOU WANT.
THIS IS SOMETHING THAT THIS PARTICULAR ONE
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A GOOD, NOT THAT I FIVE DAYS THEY DON'T LIKE SAY HOW MANY MORE PEOPLE WE HAVE.STAND UP THE PODIUM, SAY WORKING ON COUNTY DOWN GONNA START
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11.MY IPAD, I CAN, IT'S IN EVERYBODY.
MY OFFICE WON'T, DON'T PAY, DON'T PAY ANY.
SIX MAKE SENSE FROM LAST YEAR.
SO DISPUTE AND JUDGE WOULD NOT DISPUTE MAKING SURE THAT THEY GAVE US CREDIT FOR THE MONTHS WE DIDN'T USE THE SYSTEM.
HOW ABOUT THEM COWBOY? I PUT ON SOMEBODY TOO.
I GOT READING DOWN THROUGH THERE.
ONE OF THE KIDS THAT THE NEW COACH AT UH, TEXAS AT STRONG HAD CUT.
HE'S NOW STARTING FOR OH REALLY? HE WAS A STARTER AT TEXAS.
DID Y'ALL, DID Y'ALL SEE THIS MANUAL CHECKS BY? IT WAS, IT WAS KIND OF STUCK TO THE BACK OF THE ONE.
OH YEAH, I THOUGHT PART THAT OTHER REMEMBER NO, THAT THOSE ARE MANUAL CHECKS.
I'VE REMEMBER SEEN SEEING THIS CHECKS WRITE OUT THE YEAH, WE, UH, WRITE THOSE, THE STUFF.
SHERIFF'S ASKING THE DA MORTGAGE CHECKS DRIVE OUT TO A PERIOD WE GOTTA GET TO.
YOU WANT ME TO GET YOU A PACKAGE? NOPE.
I DON'T WANT, I DON'T WANT NOTHING.
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WELL, EXCUSE ME RIGHT NOW.YOU CAN'T, WE DON'T HAVE SIGN, UH, GALA.
I TALKED TO THE GIRL OVER THERE, CHRISTIE, AND UH, SHE SAID THAT WE, I'M JUST WAITING UNTIL YES, WE'RE FREE.
MR. ROSA, SECOND MOTION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.