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SO I GUESS WE'LL GO AHEAD AND CALL THE, UH, MEETING TO ORDER.
TODAY IS MONDAY, OCTOBER THE 13TH.
THIS IS A REGULAR MEETING OF THE, UH, CA COUNTY COMMISSIONER'S COURT.
UH, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE COURT, WE HAVE SOME SIGN IN SHEETS HERE ON THE TABLE, AND WE'LL BE CALLING ON YOU TO, UH, TALK TO THE COURT AFTER WE GET THROUGH WITH THEIR OPENING CEREMONY.
UH, FIRST, UH, I'VE ASKED COMMISSIONER SHANE TO GIVE OUR INDICATION, AND THEN WE'LL HAVE THE PLEDGES TO VOTE FLAG.
SO IF YOU'LL JOIN ME IN STANDING MOST GRACIOUS HEAVENLY FATHER, WE JUST TODAY THANK YOU FOR YOUR MANY BLESSINGS THAT YOU BLESSED US WITH EACH DAY.
WE JUST TODAY WANT TO THANK YOU FOR THE REIGN THAT YOU'VE GIVEN US FOR OUR PARCH EARTH.
WE THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS.
WE ASK YOU TO ALSO, TO BLESS THE LEADERS OF OUR NATION, ALSO TO BLESS US TODAY AS WE DO THE COUNTY'S BUSINESS, THAT WHAT WE DO WILL BE GOOD IN YOUR SIDE.
WE ALSO ASK YOU TO BE WITH OUR SOLDIERS THAT ARE IN HARMS WAY, YOUR SON'S NAME, AMEN.
PLEDGE TO OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA REPUBLIC FOR WHICH HE STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
I HONOR OUR TO BE TEXAS, ONE STATE UNDER GOD, ONE AND INDIVISIBLE.
IN THE WAY OF ROUTINE CORRESPONDENCE, UH, THE ONLY THING I HAVE, WE HAVE OUR FIRE MARSHAL HERE WITH US THIS MORNING, AND I ASKED RANDY, UH, TO GIVE US AN UPDATE ON THE BURN BAND DUE THE FACT WE'VE HAD A LITTLE RAIN OVER THE LAST FEW DAYS.
RIN, IF YOU'D LIKE TO COME UP AND, AND GIVE US, UH, YOUR, UH, LATEST INFORMATION AND WHAT YOUR RECOMMENDATION IS AT THIS TIME.
AS OF, UH, TODAY, THE DROUGHT INDEX IS 4 65 FOR AN AVERAGE IN THE COUNTY, 5 7, 5 BEING THE BENCHMARK WHERE WE START CONSIDERING A BURN BAND.
UH, THE LOWS, WE HAVE A LOW, AS LOW AS 2 56 COUNTY THE TWO WEEK, THAT LOOK STILL HOLDS US UP.
4, 9 4 STILL, WELL, 5, 7 5 2 WEEKS OUT.
SO, UH, OUTTA ALL THE RAIN WE'VE HAD AND THE FORECAST OF THE, I BELIEVE WOULD BE PER SAFE TO GO AHEAD LIFT THE BURN.
AND I BELIEVE THE BAND THAT WE PASSED A COUPLE WEEKS AGO DOES HAVE TO PROVISION WHERE WE CAN LIFT THAT.
AND THAT'S YOUR RECOMMENDATION THAT WE DO THAT AT THIS POINT AFFECT IMMEDIATELY, YES, SIR.
AND WE WON'T, IT'S NOT ON THE AGENDA, SO WE WON'T TAKE ACTION, BUT THE YOU, YOU CAN LIFT, WE, WE CAN LIFT IT.
AND SO WE WILL DO THAT, UH, AS OF TODAY, AS OF RIGHT NOW.
SO THAT'LL GIVE PEOPLE TIME TO CATCH UP ON SOME OF THEIR BURNING ACTIVITIES IF THEY CAN GET TO IT, BECAUSE THE MUD, I'LL GIVE IT A FEW DAYS.
UH, THE FIRST, UH, ITEMS ARE THE CONSENT AGENDA, AND THAT INCLUDES THE ACCEPTANCE OF THE MINUTES FOR THE REGULAR AND SPECIAL MEETING ON SEPTEMBER 22ND, UH, 2014, AND THE SPECIAL MEETING ON SEPTEMBER 29TH, 2014.
ALSO, ITEM B IS TO DISCUSS, CONSIDER APPROVING A BOND FOR CECIL RAY CATHY AS RESERVED DEPUTY CONSTABLE PRECINCT THREE.
AND THEN ITEM NUMBER C IS TO DISCUSS, CONSIDER A DONATION OF A STUFFED ANIMALS.
BELIEVE THESE ARE TEDDY BEARS FROM FRED MYERS JEWELERS TO THE
GENTLEMEN, ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? DO WE APPROVE CONSENT? ALRIGHT, WE HAVE A MOTION.
UH, THE NEXT ITEM IS, UH, ITEM NUMBER THREE, AND THAT IS TO DISCUSS, CONSIDER APPROVING THE PROPOSED OFFICIAL HOLIDAYS FOR COLTON COUNTY EMPLOYEES FOR 2015.
WE, UH, PEOPLE START PLANNING THEIR VACATIONS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
SO WE'RE ALREADY HAVING ONE OR TWO FOLKS ASK ABOUT HOLIDAYS FOR NEXT YEAR.
UH, THIS IS OUR TRADITIONAL, UH, HOLIDAY, UH, PACKAGE THAT WE NORMALLY GIVE EACH YEAR.
THE DAYS CHANGE BECAUSE OF, WELL, NOT NECESSARILY THE DATES, BUT THE TIMES CHANGE BECAUSE OF WHEN CHRISTMAS AND THANKSGIVING AND SOME OF THE OTHER TIMES, UH, UH, DO OCCUR.
UH, I DID ADD ONE ADDITIONAL THING
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FOR YOUR, UH, CONSIDERATION.UH, AND THAT WOULD BE THAT MOST NON-EMERGENCY OFFICES WILL CLOSE AT 3:00 PM ON WEDNESDAY, NOVEMBER THE 25TH, 2015.
THAT'S THE WEDNESDAY BEFORE THANKSGIVING ON THURSDAY AND ON, UH, NEW YEAR'S EVE, THURSDAY, DECEMBER 31ST, 2015.
THAT'S ALWAYS AN ISSUE A LITTLE BIT FOR PEOPLE.
UH, YOU KNOW, PRETTY WELL TRY TO CLEAR OUT THOSE DAYS.
THIS WOULD JUST CLEAR THAT UP, MAKE IT WHERE IT'S NOT A, SOMEBODY HAVING TO, UH, WORRY ABOUT WHAT TIME THEY'RE GONNA GET OFF ON THOSE DAYS.
SO, QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? ALRIGHT, WE HAVE MOTION.
THOSE OPPOSED? ITEM NUMBER, UH, FIVE FOUR IS TO THE, UH, RALPH DAVIS TO DISCUSS THE PAULMAN COUNTY HOG OUT.
RALPH, I NOTICED WE GOT A LITTLE PUBLICITY IN DALLAS NEWS ABOUT THAT, SO I BELIEVE WE DID.
UH, I, UH, WAS TALKING TO THE JUDGE A COUPLE MONTHS AGO ABOUT THE HOG OUT PROGRAM.
UH, Y'ALL MIGHT REMEMBER, UH, A COUPLE YEARS AGO WE ASKED HIM, UH, PARTICIPATE IN THIS PROGRAM IS ADMINISTERED BY THE TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF AGRICULTURE, AND IT IS ESSENTIALLY, IT'S A GRANT PROGRAM, UH, FOR ALL THOSE COUNTIES THAT APPLY FOR, UH, BASED ON THE AMOUNT OF HOGS THAT YOU'VE, UH, TAKEN OR TAKEN OUT OF THE COUNTY.
THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE YOU GET TO EDUCATIONAL PROGRAMS OR POINT SYSTEM THAT YOU GO BY.
AND THEN THEY RANK THE COUNTIES THAT, THAT APPLY FOR THE GRANT.
AND, UH, THE TOP THREE COUNTIES GET SOME MONEY FROM THE STATE, UH, KIND OF, YOU KNOW, HOWEVER HIGHER YOU RANK.
NOW, WE, THE LAST TIME WE APPLIED, WE, WE DID PRETTY GOOD.
WE CAME IN AT THE TOP FIVE IN THE STATE, AND SO WE'RE GOING TO APPLY PART AGAIN THIS YEAR.
UH, LAST TIME THEY DID IT, IT WAS, UH, KIND OF A PRE PROCEDURE AND STUFF.
THEY'RE NOT DOING THAT THIS YEAR, STRICTLY DECEMBER 10TH.
I'LL HAVE TO APPLY FOR THE GRANT BY DECEMBER 10TH.
THE PROGRAM RUNS FROM SEPTEMBER 1ST OF NOVEMBER 30TH.
UH, WHAT I'D LIKE TO ASK THE COMMISSIONERS TO DO IS IF, IF YOU HEAR OF SOMEBODY KNOW OF SOMEBODY ANY WAY THAT HAS TAKEN BARREL HOGS, I NEED TO KNOW ABOUT IT.
UH, NAME, ADDRESS, PICTURES, ANYTHING THAT CAN KIND OF HELP US VERIFY THAT THEY TOOK THE HOGS OUT, OUTMAN COUNTY, TAKE THEM OVER TO ZA COUNTY.
YEAH, DON'T TAKE THEM TO ZA COUNTY.
WE, WE NEED TO KNOW, UH, I, I DON'T THINK TOM IS GOING APPLY FAR, BUT, UH, I MAYBE I COULD COUNT HIS HOGS TOO.
UH, BUT, UH, ANYWAY, I, I NEED TO KNOW, I'VE ALREADY GOT 31 HOGS DOWN ON THE BOOKS SINCE SEPTEMBER 1ST, THAT, THAT HAVE BEEN TAKEN.
WE HAVE, UH, THREE LARGE TRAPS AT THE COUNTY BALLPARK A COUPLE YEARS AGO AND WE'VE GOT THEM OUT.
UH, WE JUST MOVED ONE TO DALE HAM, PEACH ORCHARD.
WE THINK WE'LL CATCH SOME HOGS THERE.
UH, UH, GOT ONE AT LES FARLEY PLACE UP IN THE NORTH FARLEY COUNTY.
UH, I'M PRETTY SURE LES IS GONNA TAKE A GOOD MANY HAULS.
SO, YOU KNOW, HOPEFULLY WE CAN GET THE NUMBERS UP.
WHAT, WHAT WE HAD PROBLEMS LAST YEAR.
UH, COMMISSIONER MANNY ACTUALLY GAVE US MORE NUMBERS THAN ANY OTHER DISTRICT THE LAST TIME WE DID THIS, BUT, UH, UH, OF COURSE DISTRICT FOUR HAS GOT, GOT A LOT OF HOGS IN IT.
IT DOESN'T MATTER IF YOU GET RUN OR BUY A TRUCK OR, OR HOW THEY TAKE THEM.
IT'S JUST A MATTER OF REMOVING FROM THE COUNTY.
THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT THE STATE WANTS FOR, TO BE REMOVED FROM THE STATE RIGHT.
MAY BE A LITTLE HARD FOR US TO COMPETE.
SOME OF THE COUNTIES, YOU KNOW, ARE USING THE HELICOPTER THING.
OUR, OUR COUNTY IS NOT PRONE TO DOING THAT.
WE STATE LAW ABOUT SHOOTING ACROSS ROADS.
IT TAKES A PRETTY LARGE ACRE PLACE TO USE A HELICOPTER.
WE'RE GOING TO GET A LOT OF PEOPLE TO THE EDUCATIONAL PROGRAM.
I KNOW TWO PROGRAMS I'M GOING DO OR GENERALLY HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE AT 'EM.
SO WE'LL GET THE CATALOG LOG NUMBERS THERE.
WE'LL SEE THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO.
THAT'S WHAT THE HOG OUT PROGRAM IS AND WE ARE GONNA APPLY FOR IT.
I HAVE TO HAVE MY STUFF INTO THEM BY DECEMBER 10TH.
AND YOU PUT OUT A NEWS RELEASE AND FILE NEWSPAPER, RALPH? YES, AND WE'VE ACTUALLY HAD, UH, LIKE WE HAD A ARTICLE IN THE DALLAS MORNING NEWS.
UH, WE HAD ONE COME OUT IN, UH, I THINK THE LIN PAPER.
UM, THERE'S A, A WEBSITE, TEXAS AG CLIPS.
UH, WE HAD, IT CAME OUT TWO, TWO WEEKS AGO THAT, UH, ARTICLE CAME OUT ON THAT WEBSITE TO SEE FRONT PAGE ARTICLE.
BUT I'M GONNA KEEP ADVERTISING, WE'LL SEND IT BACK OUT AGAIN WEEK.
I'LL SEND IT TO MY MAILING LIST, WHICH IS 800 SOMETHING NAMES ON THAT MAILING LIST.
I'LL JUST KIND OF KEEP BUMPING PEOPLE
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ALONG THAT SEND, SEND ME NUMBERS.WE'VE GOTTEN SEVERAL OFF OF THOSE ADVERTISING AVENUES ALREADY.
WE CAN COME UP WITH SOME POSTERS THAT COULD BE PLACED AROUND FEED STORAGE AND PLACES LIKE THAT THAT PROBABLY WOULD HELP TOO.
FARM STORAGE AND THINK LOT, THEY CONTINUE TO BE A PROBLEM FOR US HERE.
I'VE GOT THE, THE GRANT, THE GRANT MONIES ARE ACTUALLY TO BE USED FOR FEDERAL LOG EDUCATION.
UH, YOU KNOW, IT'S KIND OF A YOU SPEND MONEY NOW AND THEN GET IT BACK TO YOU LATER.
I'VE GOT SOME IDEAS ABOUT WHERE I MIGHT LIKE TO LET MONEY TO GO IF WE WERE TO, TO UH, RECEIVE ANY OF THE GRANTS.
IS IT STILL MORE, YOU GET MORE POINTS FOR THE, FOR THE PEOPLE ATTENDING THE EDUCATIONAL PROGRAMS THAN YOU DO FOR THE, FOR THE HALL FOR KILLING THE THE HOG? YEAH.
THE HALLS ARE ACTUALLY A HALF A POINT A PIECE AND UH, THE PEOPLE COMING TO THE EDUCATIONAL POINTS ARE PROGRAMS ARE A ONE POINT PIECE, RIGHT? I THINK THAT NEEDS TO BE STRESSED.
MAYBE WE GET, GET PEOPLE COME TO THE, TO THE EDUCATION PROGRAMS. I'LL HAVE A BOOTH UP AT THE HAY SHOW FOR INSTANCE, YOU KNOW, THAT STRICTLY GOT PARALLEL HO EDUCATION AT, I'LL BE ABLE TO COUNT ALL THE NUMBERS FROM THE HAY SHOW FOR THAT THING.
AND THEN WE HAVE ONE OTHER EDUCATIONAL PROGRAM.
YOU WOULDN'T PUT IN A SHAMELESS PLUG FOR THE HAY UP THERE, WOULD YOU? ABSOLUTELY NOT.
WE'VE GOT A GOOD SPEAKER FROM TEXAS TECH TO COME TALK TO US AT THE TOWN AND, UH, A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT DEAL.
SO WE'RE GONNA LEARN A LITTLE FASTER THIS YEAR.
SO DO WE HAVE MANY TRACK ROOF THAT JUST TRAP HALLS? WE DO.
UH, COMMISSIONER SHANE, WE, WE HAVE A FEW PEOPLE, UH, THEY HAVE CARDS UP AT OFFICE.
HAVE PEOPLE CALL ME ALL THE TIME ASKING FOR PLACES TO GO TRASH.
NOW, UH, YOU KNOW, OUR PRIVATE LAND OWNERS, THEY'RE, THEY'RE PRETTY PRIVATE.
THEY, UH, WE DON'T HAVE VERY MANY THAT THAT ACTUALLY AT LEAST THEY'RE DROWNED OUT FOR HUNTING AND STUFF.
BUT WE DO HAVE A FEW, AND I KIND OF THEM THAT WAY ALL HUNTING.
IT'S A TOUGH WAY TO MAKE A LIVING THOUGH, I TELL YOU THAT.
SO WE DON'T HAVE A LOT, LOT OF HAUL HUNTER, BUT I, I ALWAYS HAVE SOME CALLS PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT ONE GUY THAT JUST QUICKLY, THAT'S WHAT HE DOES.
YOU, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A, WE ACTUALLY HAVE A, THERE'S A WILDLIFE SERVICES PART OF EXTINCTION AND THERE IS A, A, A GENTLEMAN THAT HE DOESN'T LIVE IN OUR COUNTY, BUT HE WORKS OUR DISTRICT AND HE DOES ALL MANNERS OF TRAFFIC, WHETHER IT'S FERAL LOGS OR NUCLEAR RATS ON, OR BEAVERS ON DAMS. YOU KNOW, HE DOES ALL KINDS OF TRAFFIC AND UH, YOU KNOW, ANYBODY HAS A REAL, REAL PROBLEM.
BUT I, I ALWAYS SEND THEM TO HIM.
HE'S A GOOD TRACTOR, YOUNG GUY.
THEY DON'T PAY HIM A LOT OF MONEY, BUT THEY GIVE HIM A BOAT AND A FOUR WHEELER.
YOU KNOW, HE HAS A LARGE TIME LIFE, BUT HE IS AVAILABLE TO OUR, WE HAVE A PROBLEM, WHICH WE HAVE A DOES.
ALRIGHT, THANK YOU THAT UPDATE.
UH, ITEM NUMBER, UH, FIVE, UH, MRS. COOPER IS ASKED, WE TABLE THAT UNTIL THE NEXT MEETING.
SO I'LL ENTERTAIN MOTION MANNING.
COMMISSIONER MANNING MAKES THAT MOTION.
A OPPOSED, UH, NUMBER SIX IS TO DISCUSS, CONSIDER AUTHORIZING THE COUNTY'S DIRECTOR BAR UP TO $500,000 FROM THE AMERICAN NATIONAL BANK TO COVER SHORT TERM NEEDS PRIOR TO TAX REVENUES BEING RECEIVED.
AND, UH, THIS IS, UH, SOMETHING WE NORMALLY HAVE TO DO WITH AT THIS TIME OF THE YEAR UNTIL OUR TAX STARTS COMING IN LAST YEAR.
I DON'T THINK WE HAD COURT, THE TAX DOESN'T COME OUT YET.
SO THIS, JUST TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE ENOUGH MONEY TO MAKE SURE IS 500,000, UH, BILLS ARE 2.2 RIGHT NOW.
ANYBODY HAVE ANY, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ABOUT THAT? A MOTION BEFORE YOU ACT ON
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THIS ITEM? SO MAY MR. MANNING MAKES THAT MOTION? DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND, MR. AL.ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
ITEM NUMBER SEVEN IS TO, UH, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER TERMINATION OF THE CURRENT CONTRACT WITH MCCREARY, VACA, BRAG, AND ALLEN PROFESSIONAL COUNSELORS FOR FINE COURT, UH, CALLS TO COLLECTION ON BEHALF OF THE JUSTICE COURTS, UH, JP ONE AND JP TWO.
AND JUDGE IS HERE WITH US TODAY TO TALK TO US ABOUT THAT MORNING.
GENTLEMEN, BEFORE I, I HAVE A FULL OF OATH THAT NEED TO BE BURNED, SO IT'S EITHER WHOEVER BURNS FIRST PLEASE CALL ME.
JUST HAD, I'M HERE THIS MORNING ON BEHALF OF, UM, JUSTICE COURT ONE AND TWO.
UH, JUDGE
UM, WE WOULD LIKE TO, TO ASK YOU TO CONSIDER TERMINATING THE COLLECTION AGREEMENT WITH M NEITHER OF US HAVE BEEN VERY HAPPY WITH THE, WE'VE ALSO NOT BEING VERY HAPPY WITH THE REPORTS THAT WE HAVE GOTTEN.
IT TOOK ME FROM NOVEMBER UNTIL LATE MARCH.
AND ONCE I RECEIVED THAT REPORT, I SHARED IT WITH KAREN.
SHE PULLED HER NUMBERS, DISCREPANCIES INFORMATION THAT THEY HAD GIVEN ME AND WHAT THEIR NUMBERS ACTUALLY WERE.
UM, AND THAT WAS DONE ON MORE THAN ONE OCCASION? YES.
UH, SO WE WOULD LIKE, WE AT THIS POINT IN TIME, UH, WE WOULD JUST SIMPLY ASKING TERMINATION LETTER CONTRACT ACTUALLY ENDS ON DECEMBER THE 31ST.
HOWEVER, UH, THEY ARE AWARE THAT WE'RE NOT VERY HAPPY WITH THEM.
AND, AND I FORWARDED AN EMAIL TO JUDGE WOOD THAT I GOT A WEEK OR SO AGO BECAUSE I HAD QUESTIONED, UM, SOME PEOPLE THAT HAD BEEN CONTACTED THAT HAD BEEN RECALL FROM THEM THAT THEY HAD BEEN CONTACT TO.
AND I RECEIVED AN EMAIL SAYING I DID NOT WORK CASE.
UM, WE HAVE LIKE A 30 DAY NOTIFICATION OR ANYTHING.
WELL REBECCA IS ACTUALLY WORKING ON THAT.
UM, JOHN ADVISED ME THAT UNDERNEATH THEIR TERMINATION CLAUSE IN THE CONTRACT, WE DON'T ACTUALLY HAVE TO GIVE ANY CAUSE.
UM, BUT HE THINKS THAT IF YOU GUYS ACCEPT AND APPROVE THE TERMINATION OF THIS CONTRACT AT THIS TIME, THEN HE CAN GO AHEAD AND BEGIN THE PROCESS TO TERMINATE THAT EARLIER THAN THE END DATE OF DECEMBER.
IS THERE ANY PHASE OR PENALTY FOR TERMINATING CONTRACT BEFORE THE, I DON'T THINK THERE IS UNDERNEATH THERE, BUT, UM, NOT THAT JOHN HAS TOLD ME.
I DON'T, I I'M NOT UNDER THEIR CONTRACT THEY DID THAT.
I JUST WONDER, I DON'T REMEMBER SEEING ANYTHING ABOUT IT.
BUT UNDER THE TERMS OF YOUR CONTRACT, ONCE IT'S TERMINATED, THEY DO HAVE A KIND OF LIKE A 90 DAY GRACE PERIOD THAT THEY CAN, IF ANY THAT THAT THEY'RE ENTITLED TO THE FEES IF ANYONE PAYS ON THE CASES THAT THEY HAVE THE CASES THEY WERE ALREADY WORKING.
SO YOU'D LIKE TERMINATE YOUR SERVICES IMMEDIATELY? YES, SIR.
AND, AND, UH, JUDGE AND I HAVE BEEN MEETING, UH, WITH THE PURDUE FIRM AND WITH THE LINEER FIRM AND WE'RE TRY WEEK OR SO TO COME BACK TO YOU AND APPROVE JUDGE ADAMS AND JUDGE SMITH HAVE ANY PROBLEMS WITH THESE PEOPLE.
THEY DON'T USE THEM, THEY USE ONE.
THAT'S, HAVE THEY EVEN TRIED TO ADDRESS THE ISSUES THAT YOU WELL, GETTING ANY INFORMATION OUTTA THEM IS A LOT PROBLEM.
I BELIEVE THAT JUDGE, UM, ASHCROFT DIDN'T EVEN REALIZE FOR ABOUT TWO AND A HALF MONTHS THAT THEY WEREN'T RECEIVING ANY OF THE CASES THAT WERE BEING SENT THROUGH THE INTERNET TO THEM.
AND SO SHE'S HAD, SHE'S HAD A NUMBER OF PROBLEMS TOO.
COMMUNICATION IS A LARGE PROBLEM.
GETTING THEM TO GET YOU THE INFORMATION.
UM, I ASKED FOR A COMPREHENSIVE LIST OF WHO THEY SHOWED WERE ACTIVE CASES SO THAT I COULD GO BACK THROUGH AND MAYBE ADVISE THEM IF THEY WERE CALLING AND IT TOOK ME ABOUT TWO MONTHS TO EVEN THAT
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SHE AND SHE'S HAD SIMILAR PROBLEMS WITH.SO Y'ALL HAVE CONTACTED THEM AND TRIED TO WORK WITH THEM? OH YES.
THAT'S TRYING TO MAKE ANYTHING WELL EXHAUSTED ALL YOUR COURSE AND I APPRECIATE YOU DOING THAT.
WELL, AND THEY HAVE COLLECTED LESS THAN 9% OVER THE TWO AND HALF YEARS THAT THEY HAVE HAD THE FIGURES.
ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? I'LL MAKE A MOTION.
I HAVE A MOTION FROM, UH, COMMISSIONER LIK AND A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER SHANE TO TERMINATE THE CONTRACT WITH REFER YOURSELF DRAG AND ALLEN FOR, UH, JUSTICE COURTS ONE AND TWO.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? DOES THAT NEED TO BE, UH, WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT JOHN, WITH THIS BEFORE WE TERMINATE THIS CONTRACT, HE, HE IS AWARE OF IT.
UH, AND LET'S GO AHEAD AND VOTE.
A OPPOSED, WILL YOU TAKE CARE OF WRITING THEM A LETTER? IS THAT SOMETHING YES, JUDGE, SIR WILL.
ALRIGHT, AND THEN JUDGE, UH, BEFORE YOU LEAVE, UH, Y'ALL OR YOU AND, UH, JUDGE ASH CRAW AND THE DA'S OFFICE GOING WORK TOGETHER ON YOU COMING UP WITH A NEW YES PROVIDER? YES.
AND, UM, I ACTUALLY TALKED WITH EACH ONE OF THEM ABOUT THE POSSIBILITY OF A SHORTER TERM OF A CONTRACT FOR YEAR AND I BEEN ASSURE BY BOTH OUR MOTHER AND PURDUE THAT IF WE ASK FOR A 12 TO 18 MONTH CONTRACT JUST TO SEE HOW IT GOES.
SO, UM, JUDGE
UH, ITEM NUMBER EIGHT IS TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER UTILIZING TRANSPORTATION CODE, UH, 2 5 1 1 0 1 5 TO ASSIST THE CITY OF CORNEY WITH THEIR ROAD IMPROVEMENTS BY ALLOWING THE USE OF THE RECYCLE AND AN OPERATOR FOR APPROXIMATELY FOUR HOURS AT NO COST TO THE CITY.
COMMISSIONER CLARK ASKED THIS TO BE PUT ON THE AGENDA.
AND REBECCA, I THINK, HAS JOHN TALKED TO YOU ABOUT THIS? OH, JOHN HAS NOT SPOKEN WITH ME ABOUT THIS ISSUE.
HE HAD, UH, UH, COMMISSIONER CLARK INDICATED THAT HE HAD TALKED WITH JOHN, BUT IF WE DON'T HAVE THAT INFORMATION, UH, GENTLEMEN, WHAT'S YOUR, WHAT'S YOUR PLEASURE ON THIS? I MAKE A MOTION HERE.
CONCERNED WE DON'T, WE LOOKING FOR THE CITY, THE REST OF US CHARGE OUR CITIES.
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER, SORRY COMMISSIONER ROSA AND SECOND COMMISSIONER MANNING.
NUMBER NINE IS TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER PURCHASING PROCEDURES RELATED TO APPROVED KAMAN COUNTY PURCHASING POLICY.
I JUST CLEAN UP A COUPLE ITEMS. UH, THAT NEXT AGAIN ITEM, UH, I BOUGHT OFF COURT, PUT ON AGENDA, UH, OVER 25,000.
SO WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO IS, IS UH, KIND OF CLEAN THAT UP, MAKE YOU'RE AWARE ANYTHING THAT'S OVER 25 TO COURT SOFTWARE I A NEED TO COME TO COURT, LIKE TO CONTINUE SINCE THAT'S A A, UH, STANDARD RENEWAL.
THE OTHER THING KIND OF WANT GO OVER ONCE YOU GOTTA BE AWARE, UH, EVEN THIS EARLY YEAR WE'RE IN THOUSAND 15, WE, WE UH, CONTINUALLY GET REQUISITIONS AND REQUEST FROM DEPARTMENTS THAT UH, KNOW THE ACCOUNT NUMBER, WHAT THEY WANNA CHARGE IT TO, UH, KIND OF CHASE OUR TAIL, UH, ALL YEAR LONG TRYING TO UH, FIND THOSE ACCOUNT NUMBERS OUT.
THE DEPARTMENTS, YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE DEPARTMENTS HAVE A LIST OF ACCOUNT NUMBERS, YOU KNOW, SO LONG YOU THEY SIX ITEMS, THEY SEPARATE ITEMS BUT WE HAVE WHOLE BOOKS GO THROUGH AND SO WE'RE GOING START SENDING THE REQUEST BACK TO UH, THEY WHAT ACCOUNT NUMBER? THEY DON'T
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TRUST MYSELF TIME TRYING TO HOLD HANDS ON THESE THINGS WHERE THEY SHOULD, SHOULD BE AWARE OF THEIR, I GENERALLY BE AWARE OF THAT IN CASE YOU GET CALLS, THAT SORT THING.DO WE NEED TO TAKE ANY ACTION ON THIS? UH, JACK IT SAYS DISCUSS AND CONSIDER OR IS IT JUST MORE THIS INFORMATION? IT'S MORE A QUESTION.
BE AWARE OF IT UNLESS UH, YOU AGREE JUST REVIEW THE CONTRACT SOFTWARE.
THOSE ARE TYPICAL THINGS THAT WE, YOU KNOW, THAT I DIDN'T KNOW IF I REALLY WANT TO GO TO COURT ON THAT OR NOT, BUT WHETHER YOU WANNA SEE THOSE OR NOT, IT JUST KIND OF A STANDARD
HOW MANY OF THESE DO WE HAVE THROUGH THE YEAR? IT'S GONNA BE SEVERAL.
YEAH, WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, DOZEN DOZEN PROBABLY.
YEAH, PROBABLY SO BECAUSE OF ALL THE DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS THAT GET THEIR, UH, SOFTWARE LICENSE RENEWED, IT'S NOT WORTH A NEW PURCHASE.
I GUESS THAT'S KIND OF, IT'S JUST READ THING.
IS THAT YOUR RECOMMENDATION NOT TO GRANT THE COURT? IT IS ON THE RENEWAL, YES.
WELL THE ONLY THING ABOUT THAT IS, IS I THINK COMMISSIONERS NEED TO KNOW BEING THERE'S GONNA BE TOO MANY COMMISSIONERS ON THE COURT.
I FEEL LIKE COMMISSIONERS ALREADY, ALREADY KNOW IT MIGHT HELP THEM TO FAMILIARIZE THEMSELVES WHAT'S GOING ON, WHAT IT COSTS AND ALL THAT.
I THINK IT'S GOOD INFORMATION FOR THE COMMISSIONERS AND FOLKS.
I BOG DOWN IT GENERALLY DOESN'T TAKE VERY LONG, BUT I MEAN IT MIGHT BE BENEFICIAL TO YOU GUYS COMING IN DO THE BIG THING TOO.
YOU A LOT OF TROUBLE WITH ROAD BRIDGE IN PARTICULAR? UH, NOT PARTICULAR.
WE ALSO HAVE DEPART SENATE REQUEST.
SO WE KICK IT BACK AND GET AGGRAVATED US BECAUSE WE WANT THE APPEAL.
I FEEL LIKE THE DEPARTMENTS HAVE A SYSTEM OF COUNSELOR THEY'RE IN CHARGE OF AND THEY NOT IN CHARGE OF YOUR THAT'S RIGHT.
THEY FROM THE BUDGET OFFICER FROM THE, OKAY.
SO WE WILL CONTINUE THE SAME PROCEDURES OTHER THAN, UH, YOU'LL ON THE, UH, YOU'LL BE SENDING REALLY THAT'S BEEN YOUR PROCEDURE ANYWAY, BUT YOU'RE GONNA PROBABLY BE MORE ENFORCE MODE OF THAT, I GUESS.
DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY REASON WE CAN'T MOVE FORWARD ITEM ON THE TEAM AND THAT IS TO DISCUSS, CONSIDER, UH, RENEWING SOFTWARE MAINTENANCE AND SUPPORT GRIEVANCE FOR COUNTY CLERK'S OFFICE AND THAT PARTICULAR ITEM WE JUST RECEIVED, THE A REQUISITION BY BY ERROR THAT'S ACTUALLY PAID FOR, UH, OUT GEORGIA'S, UH, SO THAT CORRECT SOURCE PARTIAL COMMERCIALLY ALL BUT ABOUT SIX OR 7,000 CHARGES.
SO WHAT IS YOUR RECOMMENDATION ON THAT? I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT WE, UH, DO THOSE GRIEVANCE AND CHARGING COUNTY COURT.
THEY GET ONE ITEM ON THERE THAT, THAT YOU'RE CHARGED, CORRECT.
WHICH, WHICH ITEM? UH, I THINK FOR THE ATTORNEY ACCESS IT'S LIKE 2,523.
SO SINCE 2001 WE PAID PILOT TECHNOLOGY ANNUAL SUPPORT THAT COVERS LEGISLATIVE CHANGES AND UPDATES AND SO ON.
UH, WE RECEIVED THE INVOICE NOW, BUT I ALWAYS HOLD IT UNTIL THE MONEY COMES IN IN JANUARY.
SO DO YOU WANT TO PAY IT NOW OR SHOULD I HOLD IT LIKE I ALWAYS DO AFTER THE LAST 14 YEARS UNTIL THE MONEY FROM THE ESCROW COMPANIES COMING INTO TAXES.
I, WE JUST GETTING, WE TYPICALLY, WE DON'T, WE DON'T SUBMIT THAT FOR INVOICE UNTIL OUR REVENUES COME IN FROM THE ESCROW MORTGAGE S BUT WHAT THIS WILL DO, WE WILL AUTHORIZE TWO PET WHENEVER.
DO WE WANNA ALSO ADD TO THAT THE 84,000 FOR SOUTHERN SOFTWARE AND, AND ALL THE OTHER ITEMS? OR DO YOU WANNA DO THAT'S NOT ON THE AGENDA ITEM? DON'T THINK SO.
WE WANT CONTINUE TO DO IT, BUT WE WANT BRING EACH ONE UP WHEN IT COMES TO RENEWAL.
OKAY, SO THEY'RE ALL DUE NOW, BUT WE DON'T PAY ANY OF 'EM UNTIL AFTER THE YEAH, SOME OF THEM KIND OF ALTERNATE.
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MONTH IN SEPTEMBER AND 11 MONTHS IN THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR.BUT ALL OF THESE HAVE BEEN BROUGHT TO YOU IN THE BUDGET.
YOU HAVE COPIES OF ALL OF THIS STUFF THAT WAS PRESENTED TO YOU.
WE PUT SEPARATE LINE ITEMS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAD ALL THIS COVERED.
WE'RE JUST NOT AWARE WHEN THEY'RE PAYING.
PARDON ME? I SAID WE'RE JUST NOT AWARE OF WHEN THEY'RE PAYING UNLESS, UNTIL IT COMES NO USUALLY IDEA.
WE TRY TO PAY IT ANNUALLY, SO YEAH, WE HAVE NO IDEA WHAT MONTH THE YEAR IS PAID.
THERE'S NO WAY WE YEAH, THAT'S LIKE THAT.
AND THIS WOULD BE A GOOD PROCESS BECAUSE NOW WE KNOW WE JUST WHEN THE MONEY IS DUE.
SO AGAIN, WHAT'S YOUR PLEASURE, JACK? UH, I RECOMMEND THAT WE, UH, APPROVE, PAY APPROVE PAYMENT FOR THAT SOFTWARE, BUT WE'LL DO IT AT LATER DATE, AT A LATER TIME DURING THE YEAR.
MR. SHANE MAKES THAT MOTION, MR. MAN.
MOTION DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
A ARE ARE YOU GONNA CHANGE THAT, UH, THE AGENDA ITEM TO SAY MOTION TO APPROVE RENEWING AND PAIN SOUGHT OR MAINTENANCE AND SUPPORT AGREEMENTS RATHER THAN SAYING CO, YOU KNOW, FOR KAMAN COUNTY RATHER THAN KAMAN COUNTY CLERK'S OFFICE? YES.
I THINK THAT THAT'S MORE REFLECTIVE OF WHAT IT, WHAT IT'S ITEM NUMBER 11 IS TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER LINE ITEM TRANSFERS.
ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OVER THE TRANSFERS GOING? SOME FOR 2000 FOURTEENS ALREADY.
2015 AND ROAD BRIDGE TRANSFERS.
ANYBODY QUESTIONS? OKAY, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO, UH, ACCEPT THE, UH, LINE TRANSFERS AS PRESENTED BY THE, SO MR. MANNING MAKES THAT MOTION.
OPPOSED? ITEM NUMBER 12 IS TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER CLAIMS FOR P FOR PAYMENT.
A LOT OF INSURANCE AND A LOT OF FEES, PAYMENTS AND CONSTRUCTIONS THAT SOMETIMES SITS ON THE, IT SITS ON THE JUDGE'S DESK FOR APPROVAL SOMETIMES ON THE, AND YOU'RE GONNA SEE SOME INVOICES IN THERE THAT ARE DATED BACK TO, UH, MARCH AND PURCHASING DEPARTMENT.
THE AUDITOR'S DEPARTMENT HAD A MEETING WITH THOSE TWO DEPARTMENTS.
THE SAME LANE? I DON'T BELIEVE SO.
WELL, SO THEY WERE HERE FOR SEVERAL DAYS ON WORKING ON DIFFERENT UNITS.
LABOR BEEN IN THE SOUTH CAMPUS TOO.
WELL BECAUSE THAT PREPARE COUNTY PROPERTY AND THE HVC CONTRACT IS UNDER, UH, THE BUDGET.
YES, IT WAS IN EMERGENCY CHECKS.
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YEAH.WE STILL JUST HAVE ONE SIGN SHEET? YES SIR.
THAT USUALLY COUNTY COURT LAW.
DID YOU PULL ME THE ONE FOR ROGER RAM? THIS IS THE WRONG ONE.
I'M LOOKING FOR THE ONE THAT'S LIKE $7,000.
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YOU SAID RODNEY RAMSEY? MM-HMMLOOKS LIKE IT'S RAMEY IS ROBERT MY, I THINK ITS MY CHRISTIAN SOUTHERN HEALTH PARTNERS.
YEAH, THEY FOR TWO SEPARATE MONTHS? YEAH, FOR TWO SEPARATE MONTHS.
IS THAT THE MEDICAL CONTRACT? YES.
YEAH, I SAW THAT ONE TOO AND I DOUBLE CHECKED THAT BECAUSE KIND IT'S THE EXACT SAME AMOUNT EVERY SINGLE MONTH.
TWO MONTHS? YEAH, TWO MONTHS, BUT TWO DIFFERENT P INVOICE NUMBERS.
SO HE WANTED TO MAKE SURE IT WASN'T WOULD SAME ONE? YEAH, I GUESS PROBABLY SEVEN.
I THINK THIS IS ONE THAT WE HAD.
WE ACTUALLY HAD TO HOLD BECAUSE THEY BILL SEPTEMBER ONE.
SO WE, WE DON'T, WE HAVE A GOOD ONE FORWARD DATE INVOICE.
SO WE JUST HAVE UNTIL THEY BOTH THE SAME CARE.
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THEY'RE BOTH FOR 2015.THEY, THEY INVOICE US, UH, IN ADVANCE INVOICES FOR OCTOBER.
THAT'S WHAT WE DID FOR SEPTEMBER.
IT'S FOR THE MONTH OF OCTOBER AND NOVEMBER.
THAT'S THE ONE THAT YOU SEE YET.
JACK, DO YOU KNOW WHEN PEST CONTROL CONTRACT? DO YOU KNOW WHEN PEST CONTROL CONTRACT? YEAH.
I'M NOT THE RIGHT PERSON ON THE PLANT.
REALLY? SEE WE APPROVED THE, THE HOLIDAYS FOR 2015.
YEAH, PROBABLY DID NEEDS TO BE CHANGED.
BUT THESE ARE THESE, THERE WAS TWO OF THEM THAT NEEDS TO BE CHANGED.
THERE SHOULD HAVE BEEN TWO OF THEM.
YEAH, I, I JUST TOOK OFF THE ONE ON THE WEBSITE.
THE WEBSITE AND DOWNLOAD THE I KNOW.
WE WORK ON MAX MAGOSH AND SOMETIMES THEY DON PRINT.
AND SOMETIMES WE THAT'S A BIG AREA.
IT, IT'S WHAT DOES IT MEAN? UM, FULL, WHAT IS A FLOATING? UM, IT'S, YOU GET ONE DAY A YEAR.
THAT'S BASICALLY YOU JUST GET AN EIGHT HOUR DAY OFF.
SO YOU JUST PICK ANYTHING YOU WANT AFTER SIX, LIKE YOUR BIRTHDAY.
MOST PEOPLE USE IT FOR THEIR BIRTHDAY.
WELL I'M GLAD I SAW SO I JUST EMAILED THAT, SO YOU SURE YOU NEED THAT? THANK YOU.
IT SAYS MOST NON COUNTY OFFICES WILL CLOSE AT THREE, TWO AND THURSDAY IS THE 31ST 2000.
YEAH, IT'S, AND THEN ON THE FOURTH WERE 14 I UP.
IT SAYS A FLOATING HOLIDAY AND THEN IT HAS, IT DOESN'T HAVE THAT.
I JUST DIDN'T, I JUST UP, YOU KNOW, I DON'T DO HE ACTUALLY
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WHAT KIND OF PATTERN? OUR LIST, YOU KNOW, AFTER THIS.THAT'S WHY I WAS ASKING, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T TAKE EVERY ONE OF THEM.
WE DON'T TAKE THE KING, WE DON'T TAKE PRESENT DAY, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THOSE.
BUT, UH, WE TRY TO KIND OF PATTERN OURS.
HAD A ALL DIFFERENT, THAT'S WEIRD.
I KNOW THEY ALL, AND SOME OF THESE ARE REALLY WEIRD.
YOU KNOW, I CLOSED ON WEDNESDAY IN THE MIDDLE OF THE WEEK FOR VETERANS' DAY.
WE, WE YOU'RE CLOSED ON TUESDAY FOR VETERANS.
COME TO WORK ON MONDAY AND E OH YEAH.
AND UH, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO, UH, CONSIDER THE CLAIM FOR PAYMENT.
COMMISSIONER ROSA MAKES THAT MOTION TO HAVE A SECOND MOTION.
ALL IN FAVOR STATE I THOSE CODES.
ITEM NUMBER 13, LET HIM MAKE ONE ANNOUNCEMENT BEFORE WE DISMISS THE, UH, GROUNDBREAKING FOR THE NEW HIGHWAY.
34 IS SUPPOSED TO BE THIS FRIDAY MORNING AT 10 O'CLOCK AND I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE AT THE BUS BARN ITSELF THERE AT THE SCHOOL.
DEPEND ON THE WEATHER, BUT IT'LL BE 10 O'CLOCK THIS FRIDAY MORNING AND EVERYBODY'S INVITED.
NEW BYPASS CALL DO NOT 30 FOR I'LL SEND YOU INFORMATION AS SOON AS I GET IT OR YOU MAY GET IT BEFORE I DO.
ALRIGHT, UH, MOTION TO ADJOURN.
MR. MANNING MAKES THAT MOTION.