* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [00:00:05] GOOD MORNING EVERYBODY, AND I'D LIKE TO WELCOME YOU THIS MORNING TO A MEETING, A REGULAR MEETING OF COMMISSION REPORT TO KAMAN COUNTY. TODAY'S MONDAY, OCTOBER THE 27TH. UH, WE'LL BEGIN HERE. JUST IN A MOMENT. IF YOU'RE HERE, UH, AND YOU'D LIKE TO ADDRESS THE COURT, WE HAVE SOME SIGN IN SHEETS HERE AT THE VERY BEGINNING. UH, THE MEETING WILL DO THAT, AND WE HAVE SOME EXTRA AGENDA HERE AS WELL. YOU'D LIKE TO PICK THAT UP. BUT IF YOU'D LIKE TO ADDRESS THE COURT, WE'LL HAVE THAT RIGHT AFTER WE HAVE OUR, UH, PLEDGE, UH, BOTH THE FLAGS AND ALSO OUR INVITATION. SO IF YOU'LL JOIN ME STANDING PRAY. MOST GRACIOUS FATHER, WE COME TO YOU TODAY AND THANK YOU FOR ALL THE BLESSINGS THAT YOU'VE JUSTTO UPON US. WE WOULD ASK THAT, THAT YOU, UH, GIVE US WISDOM AND STRENGTH AND GUIDANCE AS WE CONDUCT THE BUSINESS OF THE COUNTY. LORD, PROTECT OUR FIRST RESPONDERS, OUR SOLDIERS WHO ARE PROTECTING OUR FREEDOM. UH, WE WOULD ASK ALSO, LORD, THAT THOSE ARE TRAVELING, UH, HAVE A SAFE JOURNEY HOME. WE ASK FOR YOUR BLESSINGS ON ALL THAT WE DO HERE. AMEN. AMEN. I PLEDGE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVIDUAL WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE, FRAUD. HONOR THE TEXAS FLAG. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE TEXASES, ONE STATE UNDER GOD, ONE AND END OF BUSINESS. I DON'T HAVE WHERE ANYONE SPEAK. SO WE'LL GO AHEAD AND BEGIN WITH OUR, UH, MEETING. FIRST ITEM IS ON THE AGENDA, ROUTINE CORRESPONDENCE. AND I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING, UH, TO GIVE OUT, UH, THAT I'VE RECEIVED, UH, THAT YOU HAVEN'T ALREADY RECEIVED. UH, THE NEXT IS WE CAN SEND A, UH, AGENDA. WE HAVE SEVERAL ITEMS THERE. UH, ONE, ADAM ASKED TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER APPROVING THE BOND OF SEAN ALLEN MAYFIELD AS CONSTABLE PRECINCT ONE. ITEM B IS TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER APPROVING THE BOND OF BUD FARMER, AND SHE CHITTY AS RESERVED DEPUTY CONSTABLE OF PRECINCT NUMBER ONE, UH, C IS TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER APPROVING THE DISSERTATION OF AMY KEITHLEY AND KELLY RINKS MORGAN FOR THE KAMAN COUNTY TAX. OFFICE. D IS TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER, UH, PRESENTING A CERTIFICATE OF, IN, UH, APPRECIATION TO ANTHONY. ANTHONY SLAYBACK, I THINK, I HOPE PRONOUNCE YOUR NAME. SLAY, SLAY, I'M SORRY. AND I'VE GOT A, GOT A, UH, A DOCUMENT HERE. I'LL BE PRESENTING YOU JUST IN A SECOND FOR HIS YEARS OF SERVICE TO THE KAUFMAN COUNTY EMERGENCY SERVICE, UH, DISTRICT NUMBER SIX. I'LL ACTUALLY ASK COMMISSIONER CLARK TO DO THAT. AND, UH, ITEM E IS TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER APPROVING A REQUEST FROM THE FARMERS ELECTRIC COOPERATIVE TO CONSTRUCT ELECTRICAL POWER DISTRIBUTION FACILITIES ACROSS COUNTY ROAD TWO 40, ALSO KNOWN AS THE SAMUEL ROAD TON, COUNTY PRECINCT NUMBER THREE. UH, ADAM F IS TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACCEPTING 300 TONS OF CRUSHED CONCRETE FOR REPAIRS TO COUNTY ROAD 2 43 FROM RONNIE HAMILTON WITH SOUTHWEST CRUSHING FOR COLTON COUNTY PRECINCT. THREE. ITEM G IS TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER DESIGNATING THE SECOND AND FOURTH MONDAY, EXCLUDING HOLIDAYS OF EACH MONTH AS THE DAYS IN WHICH THE COURT WILL CONVENE FOR ITS REGULAR MEETINGS. UH, LET ME SPEAK TO THAT LAST ITEM. THIS IS THE TIME OF THE YEAR WHEN WE SET OUR ANNUAL MEETING. SO, UH, TYPICALLY WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING IS DOING THAT THE SECOND AND FOURTH, UH, MEETINGS. BUT AS YOU'RE AWARE, WE HAVE A NUMBER OF SPECIAL MEETINGS TIME TO TIME DURING, UH, DURING THE COURT, SO, OR DURING THE, DURING THE MONTH. AND, UH, RIGHT. UH, I'LL LET YOU DO THE HONOR A FANCY ONE. WELL, IT'S NOT TOO FANCY, BUT IT'S, IT'S NOT NICE LOOKING DOCUMENT. I'VE ACTUALLY GOT TWO COME FORWARD, PLEASE. OKAY. GIVE EACH PICTURE. THIS IS IN RECOGNITION SINCE THEIR APPRECIATION OF ANTHONY SLAY FOR 12 YEARS OF DEDICATED SERVICE AND HARD WORK AND A SUCCESSFUL OPERATION OF COMAN COUNTY EMERGENCY SERVICES DISTRICT NUMBER SIX, COMAN COUNTY. AND IT SAYS, THANK YOU FOR YOUR WILLINGNESS TO SERVE. SIGNED IS 27TH DAY OF OCTOBER, 2014 [00:05:01] BY COUNTY JUDGE BRUCE. AND I'M GONNA SAY THAT ANTHONY HAS BEEN A GREAT HELP OVER THE CITY OF 2020 FIRE DEPARTMENT AS LONG AS I'VE KNOWN HIM, WHICH HAS BEEN A WHILE, LONG TIME. AND I REALLY APPRECIATE THE THINGS YOU'VE DONE OVER THERE. AND THANK YOU, SIR, VERY MUCH. THANK YOU, SIR. APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE THIS MORNING. YES, SIR. DO APPRECIATE YOUR TIME. I'M SERVICE. THANK YOU ALL FOR THIS. OKAY. THANK YOU. ALRIGHTY, ANY OTHER COMMENTS ON ANY OF THE, UH, OTHER CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS? UH, I THINK YOU, UH, I THINK ON ITEM F, YOU'VE GOT THAT WORKED OUT I'LL, THE MOTION. OKAY. ANY, ANYTHING ELSE FROM ANYBODY? YEAH, I'LL SECOND THE MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT. ALRIGHT. MR. SHANE HAD MADE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA. UH, COMMISSIONER CLARK HAS SECONDED THAT MOTION. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. THOSE OPPOSED. NEXT IS ITEM NUMBER THREE, AND, UH, THAT IS TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER APPROVAL OF THE ISSUANCE OF THE REQUEST OF A REQUEST FOR QUALIFICATIONS FOR THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THE 2013 KAUFMAN COUNTY BOND PROGRAM AND ANY APPROPRIATE ACTION. AND, UH, WE HAVE JOHN WITH US THIS MORNING, UH, TO, UH, COMMISSIONER CLARK, I THINK YOU'D PUT THIS ON THE AGENDA. JOHN, DO YOU WANT TO COME UP? JOHN HOLSTER IS OUR CONSULTANT WITH OUR BOND PROGRAM THAT WE'RE WORKING WITH TCO AND RTC ON. AND, UH, KIND OF JUST GIVE US A, A BRIEF KIND OF, I LOVE BRIEF . THIS IS THE NEXT STEP IN THE ISSUANCE IN THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THESE PROJECTS. THERE ARE, UH, SEVERAL PROJECTS THAT ARE LISTED IN THIS RFQ. UH, WE'LL HIT THE STREET AS SOON AS YOU GUYS SAY YES. AND, UH, WE WILL BE COMING BACK TO YOU, UH, ONCE THIS IS ON THE STREET AND RECOMMENDING WHO WE THINK SHOULD BE ON THE SELECTION COMMITTEE. GENERALLY SPEAKING, WE'RE GONNA BE LOOKING AT PROBABLY TWO PEOPLE FROM THE STATE AND THEN THREE PEOPLE FROM THE COUNTY WILL LET Y'ALL WORK THAT IN OUT INTERNALLY. I'VE GOT A RECOMMENDATION, BUT, UH, IT'S JUST UP TO, UP TO THE TIME AND AVAILABILITY OF THE STAFF Y'ALL HAVE HERE. BUT THERE ARE THESE, UH, PROJECTS, THEY'RE ALL ON SYSTEM. WE'VE GROUPED SOME SO THAT THERE ARE, UH, YOU KNOW, SEVERAL PROJECTS IN ONE LISTING SO THAT THERE'S ENOUGH FOR EACH OF THESE FIRMS. AND THESE ARE ALL PROJECTS THAT, UH, REPRESENT THOSE PROJECTS THAT WE CALL FAITH-BASED ENGINEERING, WHERE WE'RE NOT SURE WHERE THE MONEY'S GONNA COME FROM YET, BUT WE'RE GONNA GET STARTED ON THE ADVANCED PLANNING BECAUSE SOMEBODY HAS TO, AND IT'S THE CHEAPEST PART OF THE PROJECT. SO THIS IS THE, THE, UH, NEXT STEP IN TAKING YOUR BOND MONEY AND TURNING IT INTO A HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS. THAT'S THE BRIEF QUESTIONS, UH, RIGHT. JACK, HAVE YOU GOT, UH, A TIME FRAME THAT YOU'D LIKE TO, UH, OPEN OR START ADVERTISING FOR THIS AND THEN, UH, AT THE SPEC READY? WE'LL, WE'LL PUT, UH, ADVERTISE. YEAH. I GUESS YOU HAVE THESE. DON'T, I KNOW THAT YOU, JOHN HAS LOOKED OVER. I SEEN, HAVE YOU SEEN THESE? I, UM, I DON'T REMEMBER. I PROBABLY HAVE. PROBABLY. YEAH. THEY'RE, UH, THEY'RE VERY STANDARD, UH, PROCUREMENT PACKAGE DOCUMENTS YOU GOT. OKAY. IS THAT WHAT WAS EMAIL DOES? YES. TWO WEEKS AGO. YEAH. YES, SIR. WE, UH, WE, IT'S BEEN VETTED SEVERAL TIMES AND, AND, UH, THEY'RE VERY GENERIC, VERY STRAIGHTFORWARD, VERY EASY TO, I CAN READ 'EM AND UNDERSTAND 'EM. SO VERY, UH, VERY EASY. WE, WE TRY TO STREAMLINE AS, AS, AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE. UM, 'CAUSE A LOT OF TIMES YOU ASK THE FIRMS FOR A LOT OF INFORMATION, THEY GIVE IT TO YOU BECAUSE THEY'RE REALLY INTERESTED IN, IN GETTING A JOB. AND THEN UNFORTUNATELY, YOU HAVE TO READ IT AND, UH, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU HAVE THE, RIGHT NOW, WE'LL TELL YOU THAT COMPTON COUNTY IS ONE OF THE FEW ENTITIES THAT'S PUTTING SERVICES OUT ON THE STREET. SO YOU SHOULD HAVE A LOT OF INTEREST FROM THE ENGINEERING FIRMS, UH, TO COME AND PUT THE BEST FOOT FORWARD. 'CAUSE I DON'T KNOW OF ANY OTHER MAJOR, UH, GOVERNMENTAL ENTITIES THAT ARE OUT HITTING THE STREET RIGHT NOW. SO YOU'VE GOT A LOT OF ATTENTION. IT'S A GOOD TIME. AND YOU'LL GET A LOT OF QUALIFIED SUBMISSIONS ON CONFIDENT. AND THEN WE WILL TURN 'EM AROUND. MY INTENT IS TO TRY TO GET THESE FIRMS ON CONTRACT, UH, BEFORE THE END OF THE YEAR. THAT SOUNDS LIKE A LOT WHEN YOU SEE THERE'S NINE PROJECTS. BUT THE, THE CONTRACT WE'VE USED ONCE BEFORE, UH, WITH THE FREEZE NICHOLS, IT'S A STANDARD CONTRACT WHERE THE VERBIAGE IN THE CONTRACTS, IT'S STANDARD. AND THEN WE JUST ADD THIS, THE, UH, ATTACHMENT THAT DESCRIBES THE PROJECT DESCRIPTION AND THE FEE. SO WE THINK WE CAN GET THESE ALL IN AND DONE BEFORE THE END OF THE YEAR. AND THAT WAY WE CAN START 2015 [00:10:04] WORKING ON THE JOBS FILING. ARE, ARE THESE INDIVIDUAL, UH, PART QUEUE? THERE ARE, IT'S ONE RFQ WITH NINE, NINE DIFFERENT, UH, PROJECTS. THEY CAN SUBMIT ON ONE OR OFF. AND IF THEY DECIDE TO SUBMIT ON MULTIPLE, THEY DON'T HAVE TO SUBMIT THE, THE FIRST HALF OF THE, UH, QUALIFICATIONS, WHICH IS FIRM AMOUNT QUALIFICATIONS. THEY JUST HAVE TO SUBMIT THE SPECIFICS. SO THEN YOU HAVE ONE FIRM QUALIFICATIONS AND THEN FOUR SPECIFICS. THAT WAY IT DOESN'T, YOU DON'T HAVE TO DUPLICATE IT OVER AND OVER AGAIN. DO YOU HAVE A LIST OF THE VENDORS THAT YOU WANT? NO, SIR. YOU'LL JUST, UH, I'LL, I DON'T KNOW HOW Y'ALL PUT IT OUT. I'LL PUT A STATE WEBSITE AND I'LL PUT IT ON OUR WEBSITE. THEY'LL HUNT YOU DOWN. THERE'S SO HERE RIGHT NOW, UH, AND I THINK THE COMMISSIONERS HAVE BEEN, UH, THEY'VE, UH, GOT A LOT OF INTEREST FROM THE FIRMS. AND SO THEY'RE, THE INDUSTRY KNOWS THAT IT'S FIXING TO HIT, AND WE'LL HAVE MORE APPLICANTS THAT WE CAN GO THROUGH. WELL, IT'S GOOD THAT WE'RE HITTING IT AT A GOOD TIME, DAN. IT'S A, IT'S PEAK TIME. AND THEN REMEMBER, UH, PROP ONE IS ON THE BALLOT IN NOVEMBER. AND, UH, THAT'S, THAT'S A RENEWABLE SOURCE THAT ONCE WE ARE IN THE SYSTEM, THEY'RE GONNA BE USING THOSE FUNDS TO PARTNER WITH THE COMMUNITIES ARE WILLING TO DO THEIR PART. AND SO THIS IS A GOOD TIME, GOOD TIME TO DO THE BUSINESS. COMMISSIONER, Y'ALL HAVE QUESTIONS FOR JOHN. THIS IS, LIKE I SAID, THE NEXT STEP IN OUR, IN OUR BOND PROGRAM. AND IT WILL GIVE US, GET THE COURT FROM OPPORTUNITY TO SHOW THE PEOPLE THAT WE'RE GONNA DO WHAT WE SAID WE'RE GOING TO BE DOING AND GETTING THESE PROJECTS GOING. AND THE SOONER THE BETTER. 'CAUSE YOU'RE PROBABLY GETTING QUESTION IS WHY ARE WE NOT DOING SOMETHING RIGHT NOW? WHERE, WHERE ARE WE RIGHT NOW? SO THIS, WE CAN GIVE 'EM THE TELL US ANSWER WHERE WE'RE AT RIGHT NOW. WE'RE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GONNA BE STARTED BY THE FIRST OF THE YEAR. YEAH. THIS IS THE, THIS IS THE PROJECTS WHERE WE START TAKING OWNERSHIP OF OUR OWN DESTINY. WE'LL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE ADVANCED PLANNING. AND TEXAS IS AWARE OF THAT. THE SCOPE IN THE RFQ WAS, UH, NEGOTIATED ON EACH OF THESE PROJECTS WITH THE STATE TO MAKE SURE WE WERE PROVIDING THE SERVICES THEY WANT. AND, UH, WE, WE SHOULD, UH, BE ABLE TO BELONG, GO AFTER THIS. DO YOU HAVE A TIMEFRAME? THEY, THEY CAN FREE STREET, UH, MINIMAL TIME, OR I WOULD SAY SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 14 AND 21 TO DAYS. JUST, JUST NOTHING TOO MUCH. NOTHING TOO LITTLE. I BELIEVE BOTH, MOST ALL THE ENGINEERING FIRMS ARE READY TO, THEY'VE BEEN BEEN READY FOR WAITING ON US. WE'LL GET EVERYBODY BY OTHER, ANYBODY HAVE ANY OTHER COMMENTS, QUESTIONS, NOT ON ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO, UH, APPROVE PUTTING THIS RFP ON THE SO MAY MR. UH MANNING MAKE THAT MOTION? SECOND, UH, COMMISSIONER ROSA. SECOND. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. A OPPOSED? I VERY MUCH. THE NEXT ITEM IS ITEM NUMBER FOUR TO HEAR FROM JEFF BROWN TO GIVE AN UPDATE ON FINES AND FEES COLLECTION, AS WELL AS THE, UH, THE LINK TAXES. GOOD MORNING. WROTE BIANNUAL UPDATE. YES. DO YOU CARE WHICH ONE I GET FIRST? IT MAKES ME, NO, LET'S START WITH FEES AND FINES FIRST. YOU WOULD, IT'S THE LITTLE CHART THAT I'VE BEEN SUBMITTING NOW TO Y'ALL FOR THREE AND A HALF YEARS OR SO, JUDGE, THREE YEARS. UH, THE STOP, THE GOOD NEWS, BAD NEWS. BAD NEWS IS THAT THE, UM, FOR THE LAST FISCAL YEAR, THE, THE JP, UH, FEES AND FINES WAS DOWN 18%. GOOD NEWS IS, IS THAT, UH, AT THE END OF JULY, EXCUSE ME, IT WAS DOWN ABOUT 21%. SO THEY'VE NARROWED THE GAP SUM IN THE LAST THREE OR FOUR MONTHS. UM, AS YOU CAN SEE, UM, IT STILL GENERATED, UH, JUST, JUST A LITTLE BIT SHY OF, OF $2 MILLION GENERATED 2.3 MILLION LAST YEAR. AND IF YOU'LL FLIP OVER TO THE, THE CHART HERE THAT I PREPARED, THIS CHART SHOWS THAT FOR THE 2012 FISCAL YEAR, UH, THE JP COURT FEES AND FINES, UH, GENERATE, UH, $2.648 MILLION. UM, IN 2011 AND 13, WERE, WERE PRETTY MUCH THE SAME. UM, GOOD NEWS IS 2014 IS ABOVE 2010. UM, I DON'T KNOW, JUDGE, I DON'T KNOW WHAT Y'ALL BUDGETED IN THE COMING YEAR. IT [00:15:01] APPEARS TO ME THAT IT'S SOMEWHERE AROUND $2 MILLION. IS IS GONNA BE KIND OF IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. I DON'T HAVE THE EXACT NUMBER FOR YOU, BUT, UM, I'M TALKING TO THE JPS. TAKE THE NUMBER OF TICKETS IS DOWN THIS YEAR. ONE OF THE REASONS THAT THE, UH, THE NUMBERS ARE DOWN A BIT. UH, TICKETS PROBABLY DOWN DOWN 15 TO 20%, SOMEWHERE IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD. SO COLLECTIONS ARE PRETTY GOOD IF YOU TAKE THAT INTO ACCOUNT. UM, I GUESS AT THIS POINT IN TIME, I'M SUPPOSED TO SAY IN FOR US, UH, DOWN ON THE BOTTOM, UH, WE, WE'VE BEEN PAID $95,000 THIS YEAR, BA BASED ON THE $460,000 THAT WE HELPED THE JPS CLAIM. THAT'S SIGNIFICANT. PRESUMING THAT, UH, AND THIS IS A LARGE PRESUMPTION, THEY WOULDN'T HAVE COLLECTED NEAR THAT MUCH MONEY, UH, WITHOUT OUR HELP. UH, IT MAY HAVE BEEN EVEN BELOW 2010. SO, UH, I FEEL LIKE WE'RE CONTINUING TO DO A PRETTY DECENT JOB HERE. BUT, AND THE BATTLE PART OF THIS, UH, REPORT HAS TO DO WITH, UH, COUNTY CLERKS COLLECTIONS. AS YOU CAN SEE, UH, THEY COLLECTED $53,000, UH, THIS YEAR. AND WE'VE BEEN RESPONSIBLE FOR ABOUT, UH, UH, $12,000 OF THAT. SO, UM, MADAM CLERK, YOUR STAFF'S DOING WELL. UH, THOSE, THOSE COUNTY COURT OF LAW THINGS ARE HARD. AND I KNOW THEY ARE FOR, FOR CLERK, THEY'RE FOR US. SO THAT IS KIND OF THE STATUS OF THINGS SINCE THEY EXIST AT THE FISCAL YEAR. ANY QUESTIONS? THIS ELECTION IS JEFF, OR THAT'S INCLUSIVE OF, UH, THE DELINQUENT THAT'S CURRENT CURRENTLY IN DELINQUENT FIVE. THE FEES? YES, SIR. YES, SIR. THAT'S ALL, ALL IT. IT'S TOTAL, YES, SIR. EXCUSE ME. AS YOU CAN SEE, 2012 FISCAL YEARS WAS THE SPAN YEAR. JUDGE WOOD, IF YOU RECALL, WE HAD MANY CONVERSATIONS REGARDING, YOU KNOW, WHAT WOULD BE THE EFFECT OF INVOLVING US AND GETTING EVERYBODY ON BOARD TO COLLECT. I THINK THE CULMINATION OF THAT, OF THAT EFFORT THAT BEGAN EARLY IN 2011 WAS IN 2012 FISCAL YEAR, THAT'S WHERE WE PROBABLY CLEANED UP MOST OF THE BACKLOG. RIGHT. THAT WAS OUT THERE. IT WAS A COLLECTIBLE. WE ALL KNEW, EXCUSE ME. WE ALL KNEW AT THE TIME THAT THE, UH, WE WEREN'T SURE ABOUT WHAT WAS, WHAT ACTUALLY WAS OUTSTANDING. WHAT WAS COLLECTIBLE IN THOSE BACK YEARS AND THAT KIND OF THING. I THINK THE ANSWER WAS PROBABLY SOMEWHERE HALF A MILLION TO MAYBE A MILLION DOLLARS. YEAH. AND THAT'S, THAT'S KIND OF WHAT WE COLLECT. AND I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, WE DIDN'T HAVE ANYBODY WORKING ON, UH, FINES AND FEES IN 2010. THAT IS CORRECT. AND SO THAT SHOWS THAT DID WORK. UH, HE DID, UH, VERY WELL. AND, UH, WE'RE STILL, UH, EVEN TODAY ABOVE, EVEN THOUGH THOUSAND 14 WAS NOT AS WELL AS WE WOULD LIKE TO HAD, UH, WE'RE STILL SIGNIFICANTLY ABOVE WHERE WE WERE IN 2010. I THINK JUDGE, PARTICULARLY IN LIGHT OF THE FACT THAT, UH, SOME MAKE YOUR TICKETS HAVE BEEN WRITTEN THIS YEAR, IT'S A PRETTY GOOD SHIFT. YEAH. ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF MR. BROWN ON FINES AND FEES? OKAY. YOU WANNA GO ON TO THE NEXT ONE? YES, SIR. UM, AS, AS Y'ALL ARE AWARE, UH, I'M REPORTING Y'ALL, UH, EVERY SIX MONTHS ABOUT WHAT WE'RE DOING IN TERMS OF LIQUID TAX COLLECTION. THE REPORT THAT I GAVE YOU BACK IN THE SPRING, UH, THE FIRST EXPENSE OF YOUR FISCAL YEAR, THIS IS, THIS REPORT DEALS WITH YOUR ENTIRE FISCAL YEAR. UM, WE, WE SENT OUT, UH, 30, ALMOST 30, WELL, WELL OVER 31,000 LETTERS, UH, HERE. THE TAXPAYERS , BY THE WAY, THE NUMBERS I'M GIVING YOU TODAY WILL BE FOR EVERYBODY THAT'S COLLECTED THE TAX OFFICE UNDER, UH, LAWSUITS. WE FILED 559 LAWSUITS, UH, UH, THE COURT THROUGH JUDGE WOOD AND, AND, UH, SET A GOAL OF AROUND 400. WE EXCEEDED THAT. BY THE WAY, I DIDN'T EXCEED, EXCEED THAT MYSELF. NO, ELLI IS BACK HERE IN THE BACK. WHATEVER YOU STAND UP, I DON'T WASTE ANY, ANYTHING THAT I TAKE CREDIT FOR DOING. SHE DID . SO I DON'T WANT ANYBODY TO BE CONFUSED ABOUT WHO DOES THE WORK UNDER YOUR T AND CINDY AND DEBBIE ALSO, UM, WITH REGARD TO, TO THOSE LAWSUITS WHEN WE'RE SEEKING COLLECTION A LITTLE OVER TWO AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS, UH, WE ALSO INTERVENED WITH SOME LAWSUITS FOR ANOTHER $36,000. THE SECOND PAGE, UH, SECOND PAGE, THE FIRST PARAGRAPH IS A REALLY GOOD PARAGRAPH. WE WERE ABLE TO DISMISS 175 LAWSUITS. THE REASON THAT'S SUCH GOOD, GOOD NEWS IS THAT'S ABOUT ALMOST $1.3 MILLION. AND THAT MEANS THAT ALL THOSE LAWSUITS GOT FILED AND THEY GOT PAID. EVERYTHING GOT PAID, COURT COSTS GOT PAID, OUR EXTRACT FEES GOT PAID, ALL THE TAX INTEREST GOT PAID. THAT'S A GOOD PARAGRAPH UNDER THE JUDGMENT PARAGRAPH. THE NEXT PARAGRAPH DOWN, WE TOOK 270, UH, TWO JUDGMENTS AND 270 LAWSUITS FOR ALMOST A MILLION AND A HALF [00:20:01] DOLLARS. UH, I DON'T SEE THE CLERK, THE CAPTAIN, THE DISTRICT CLERK IN HERE THIS MORNING. SOME OF THE SHERIFF HAS A COUPLE OF REPRESENTATIVES HERE. A LOT OF THAT HAS TO DO WITH THE FACT THAT IF THE DISTRICT CLERK MAKES, IT, MAKES HER OFFICE AVAILABLE TO US. THEY ALWAYS RESPOND TO US WHEN WE NEED HELP. SHERIFF'S OFFICE GETS OUT AND GETS THOSE THINGS SERVED, GETS EVERYBODY BEFORE THE COURT, AND THEN JUDGE TIGER AND HIS STAFF MAKE COURT TIME AVAILABLE TO US, UH, ON A, ON A MONTHLY BASIS WHENEVER WE ASK TO MAKE TIME TO PLAY FOR US. I ALWAYS WANNA MENTION THAT BECAUSE WE'RE NOT WORKING IN A VACUUM, WE HAVE TO HAVE A LOT OF HELP TO DO THE WORK THAT WE, THAT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO DO FOR, FOR Y'ALL. SO I WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT, THAT YOU ARE THE ELECTED OFFICIALS WHO PARTICIPATE IN THIS AND ARE DOING A REALLY GOOD JOB. UM, WE ALSO, IN THIS PARAGRAPH, ANOTHER GOOD PART OF THIS PARAGRAPH IS, UM, IN 65 CASES, WE RELEASE THE JUDGMENTS. AND THAT'S JUST LIKE A NON OF ABOVE. THAT MEANS WE GOT PAID AND EVERYTHING. SO WHEN WE GET TO RELEASE IT, IT IS NOT GOOD. WHEN WE HAVE TO GO TO COURT AND TAKE JUDGMENTS, IT'S REALLY GOOD WHEN WE HAVE TO GO, WE GET TO GO TO COURT AND, AND WE, UH, RELEASE THOSE JUDGMENTS. WE ALSO PROSECUTED THE NEXT PARAGRAPH, 147 PROPERTIES PER TAX SALE, $720,000 WORTH OF PROPERTIES. UM, WE ALSO, IN, WITH REGARD TO PERSONAL PROPERTY, WE'VE EXECUTED SOME TAX WARRANTS. 39 TAX WARRANTS ARE EXECUTED FOR $75,000. WE REALLY, UH, ARE TAKING ADVANTAGE OF 33 11. I BELIEVE THIS COURT AUTHORIZED THAT EITHER FOUR OR FIVE YEARS AGO. THAT'S WHERE WE BEGAN COLLECTING ON PERSONAL PROPERTY IN MAY, EXCUSE ME, IN APRIL. WE, UH, THAT EARLY COLLECTION, HOPEFULLY PUT IT, IS PUTTING MONEY IN YOUR BANK ACCOUNT A LITTLE BIT EARLIER. AND IT'S WORKING THAT EXTRA, EXTRA 90 DAYS ON PERSONAL PROPERTY IS, IS, IS EFFECTIVE UNDER SPECIAL PROJECTS. UH, ONE OF THE THINGS IN CONJUNCTION WITH, WITH MS. RADCLIFF, ONE OF THE THINGS WE'VE DONE IS KIND OF CHANGE OUR RESALE PROCEDURE HERE IN THE COUNTY. WE ARE NOW GONNA CONDUCT ROUGHLY FOUR TO FIVE, UH, AUCTIONS EVERY YEAR TRYING TO DO AT LEAST ONE A QUARTER. THE FIRST TWO OF THOSE THAT WE'VE DONE, UH, WE DID IN, UH, AUGUST, UH, EXCUSE ME, MAY, AND THEN AUGUST. AND WE RAISED, UH, ABOUT $250,000 RESELLING PROPERTY. AND THESE ARE PROPERTIES THAT BASICALLY WERE SITTING THERE. NO ONE WAS BIDDING, NO ONE WAS INTERESTED INTEREST IN IT, BUT, BUT THEY HAVE NOW BEEN PUT BACK ON THE TAX ROLL. AND WE RAISED A QUARTER OF A MILLION DOLLARS. ONE OF THE BIG THINGS THAT THAT'S HAPPENED IN THAT REGARD, UM, WELL, WE WAGE IT BACK THERE IN BACK, IS RESPONSIBLE FOR SOME OF THIS. ONE OF THE THINGS WE WANTED TO DO BY DOING THESE AUCTIONS WAS GETTING MORE PEOPLE INVOLVED AND GETTING MORE PEOPLE TO COME DO IT. WE'RE DOING 'EM IN THE EVENING. THE, THE REGULAR SHERIFF'S SALES HAVE TO BE CONDUCTED WITHIN, WITHIN THE BUSINESS DAY ON THE FIRST TUESDAY OF EACH MONTH. WE CAN SCHEDULE THESE RESALES AND WE'VE SCHEDULED 'EM TO, TO THIS POINT THAT WE PROBABLY WILL CONTINUE TO AFTER WORK HOURS, 6, 6 30 IN THE EVENING FOR PEOPLE THAT CAN, THAT MAYBE ARE WORKING IN DALLAS OR, OR JUST WORKING IN GENERAL. CAN YOU GET OFF AND COME AND IF THEY'RE INTERESTED IN THESE PROPERTIES AND BID ON THEM, BUY THEM. AND THE OTHER THING THAT, THAT MR. JET HAS DONE FOR US, YOU KNOW, I'M AN OLD DOG AND, AND I, I DON'T DO ANYTHING WITH FACEBOOK AND I KNOW IT'S, I DON'T EXIST, BUT THAT'S ABOUT IT. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, THAT WADE DID WAS HE SUGGESTED THAT WE DO A KAUFMAN COUNTY, UH, RESALE FACEBOOK PAGE. AND IT'S WORKED. 'CAUSE IN EACH OF THESE TWO AUCTIONS THAT WE'VE HAD SO FAR, WE'VE HAD DOUBLE THE NUMBERS. WE'VE NEVER HAD AN AUCTION BEFORE AND MORE THAN 40 AT EACH ONE OF 'EM. SO THAT HELPS US SELL PROPERTY THAT HELPS US RAISE MORE MONEY. AND SO IT'S REALLY WORKING. WE'RE GONNA CONTINUE TO DO THAT. IN FACT, ER THE NEXT SALE IS NOVEMBER 13TH, CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT. UH, SO WHAT'S THAT COMING UP SECOND? WELL, I JUST WANNA INTERJECT BECAUSE WE HAD THIS UPCOMING SALE ON NOVEMBER 13TH. UH, SINCE WE HAVE MEMBERS OF THE PRESS HERE, I WANTED TO GIVE OUT THE FACEBOOK PAGE INFORMATION SO THAT MAYBE WE COULD GET SOME MORE INTEREST ON THE SIGN. IT'S KAUFMAN COUNTY TAX SALES, UH, FACEBOOK PAGE. SO IT'LL BE FACEBOOK.COM, KAUFMAN COUNTY TAX SALES. AND, UH, WE'VE HAD A LOT OF SUCCESS WITH, UH, RESPONSIVE QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS BEING POSTED AS WELL AS AN INCREASE IN THE NUMBER OF LIGHTS ON THAT PAGE. SO, UH, I THINK THE NUMBER, THE INCREASED NUMBER OF PEOPLE WHO SHOW UP FOR THESE AUCTIONS IS THE TESTAMENT TO THE EFFECTIVENESS, THIS NEW TECHNOLOGY AND HOW, HOW USEFUL IT CAN BE HIMSELF. AND AGAIN, HE'S A YOUNG DOG, SO HE UNDERSTANDS ALL THESE THINGS THAT, THAT I DON'T UNDERSTAND. BUT ANY EVENT, WE'RE WE'RE DOING THOSE KIND, WE'RE, WE'RE TRYING TO, WE'RE TRYING NOT TO DO THE SAME OLD THINGS AND GET THE SAME OLD RESULTS. UH, WE'RE NOT GONNA BE THE DEFINITION INSANITY IF WE CAN AVOID IT. UM, BUT WE'RE DOING THAT, THAT SALE ON NOVEMBER 13TH. AND, AND I, I KNOW THAT Y'ALL, Y'ALL MAY OR MAY NOT WANT TO COME AND BID ON ANYTHING, BUT I ENCOURAGE Y'ALL TO COME AND, UH, CERTAINLY TELL THE PEOPLE YOU COME IN CONTACT WITH THAT WERE DOING THESE THINGS ON THE LAST TOP OF THE LAST PAGE. CAN I SAY ONE THING? YES. THE ONLY COMPLAINT I'VE HAD ON THE TAX [00:25:01] SALE IS THE QUALITY OF THE AUCTIONEER , UNLESS YOU, THE PRESS, I'VE HAD SEVERAL NAMES. WELL, AND, AND WOULD YOU LIKE TO COME DO NO, NO, I DID PASS. WELL, ANYBODY WHO WANTS TO COME DO THAT FOR ME, I'D, I'D WELCOME ALL THE HELP IN THE WORLD. UH, YES. I'M VERY POOR THAT, UH, I'LL CONTINUE TO DO IT. THIS IS THE AUCTION AREA? YES, SIR. I MEAN, IT IS PITIFUL TIME SINCE THIS IS GONNA BE KEMP, IS THIS MAINLY PROPERTIES IN THAT WE'RE TRYING TO FOUR AREA? WE'RE TRYING TO DO SOME OF THAT. WE'RE TRYING TO, TO DO KIND OF THE NORTH HALF THE COUNTY WHEN WE, WHEN WE GO TO, TO TERRELL OR 40, TRYING TO DO THE SOUTH HALF WHERE WE, IT'S NOT ALL THAT WAY, BUT WE'RE KIND OF TRYING TO DO THAT. THAT WAY SOMEBODY WHO'S MAYBE LOSING MAYBANK DOESN'T HAVE TO DRIVE UP TO TERRELL JUST TO BID ON A PIECE OF PROPERTIES DOWN THERE. SO WE'RE TRYING TO DO IT THAT WAY. BUT THERE COULD BE PROPERTIES, THERE COULD BE IN PRECINCT. WE'RE TRYING TWO OR THREE IN THERE. COMMISSIONER, ONE OF THE THINGS WE DO ON THE FACEBOOK PAGE IS I'LL POST ACTUALLY A LIST OF ALL THE PROPERTIES THAT ARE UP FOR AUCTION. SO, AND HOW MUCH ADVANCE WILL THAT BE POSTED OF THE SALE? UH, I JUST GOT THE LIST LATE LAST WEEK, SO I SHOULD BE POSTING IT PROBABLY WITHIN THE NEXT SEVEN DAYS. OKAY. ON THERE. SO THAT GIVES US ALMOST 30 DAYS. YEAH. 21 DAYS NOTICE. IS THAT SOMETHING THAT GOES ON MRS. , UH, WEB PAGE AS WELL? YES, IT IS. I GUESS WE COULD PUT IT ON THE COUNTY. WELL, IT IS, IT IS ON FRONT PAGE. USUALLY IT IS ON HER WEBPAGE. IT'S ON THE FACEBOOK PAGE. IT'S ALSO ON MY LAW FIRM'S TAX SALE PAGE. SO IT, IT'S OUT THERE. ALRIGHT. AND I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE, ARE, ARE PICKING UP ON WHERE TO GO TO LOOK FOR THAT. WELL, THE MEDIA CAN REALLY BE A BIG ASSISTANCE, UH, TO US IN THIS. AND ESPECIALLY IF WE COULD HAVE A LINK, YOU KNOW, WHERE WE CAN SEE, BECAUSE I THINK THERE'S 179,000 THAT WAS RAISED AT THE THREE. YES. WHICH IS PRETTY SIGNIFICANT. IT WAS, YEAH. AND, AND IT IS COMMISSIONER, IT IS JUST A LOT, UH, THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE IS WHAT'S MAKING DIFFERENT, I THINK AND THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE IS BECAUSE OF THE INFORMATION THAT Y'ALL ARE PUTTING OUT. YES. YEAH. WE, AND I THINK THE MORE SOURCES WE HAVE AND THE MORE OPPORTUNITIES PEOPLE HAVE TO SEE, ARE WE DOING THE, LIKE, THE YARD SIGN THINGS ON THE PROPERTY TOO? WE'RE DOING, WE'RE DOING AS MUCH AS WE CAN. I THINK THAT HELPS A LOT FOR THE NEIGHBORS THAT MAY NOT BE ON FACEBOOK WEBSITES, COMMISSIONER, IF THOSE NEIGHBORS GO AND STEAL THE SAME, EVERYBODY HAS TO KNOW ABOUT, THAT'S NEVER HAPPENED BY THE WAY. YEAH. UM, BUT YEAH, IT DOES. THOSE KIND OF THINGS DO HELP. THEN YOU PICK UP THE SIGNS AND REUSE THE NEXT SALE IF WE CAN FIND 'EM. YES, WE DO. . I'M NOT SAYING THAT'S A PROBLEM, I'M JUST SAYING THAT THERE'S BEEN SOME ISSUES WITH THAT. WELL, THE GOOD THING ABOUT IT IS NOT ONLY DO WE GET THE TAXES AND THE FEES, BUT WE ALSO PUT PIECE OF PROPERTY BACK ON THE TAX ROAD. EXACTLY. THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT PEOPLE HOPEFULLY CLEAN UP AND, AND UTILIZE. AND, YOU KNOW, KIND OF HISTORICALLY, I THINK WE'VE HAD KIND OF HAD, UH, UM, 250 TO MAYBE 300 PROPERTIES IN THE ROAD AT ANY ONE TIME. I THINK IT'S DOWN TO LESS THAN 200 NOW. AND THAT'S KIND OF WHAT WE WANT TO DO IS KIND OF, KIND OF KEEP EM, MOVE PEOPLE PULLING BACK ON THEIR OWN AND NOT SIT THERE FOR SO LONG. AND HOPEFULLY THIS IS GONNA ACCOMPLISH THAT. ON THE, ON THE LAST PAGE, TWO YEARS AGO WE DID SOMETHING, UH, I THINK WE DID IT IN, IN, UH, KEMP, IN CRANDALL WHERE WE DID A WALK AND TALK CAMPAIGN WHERE, UH, MY PEOPLE WENT OUT DURING THE DAY AND WENT TO, TO PLACES WHERE WE KNEW THAT PEOPLE HAD A RESIDENCE HOMESTEAD AND THEY WERE DELINQUENT ON THEIR TAXES. AND WE, WE LEFT THEM A LITTLE NOTICE AND A COPY OF THEIR DELINQUENT TAX STATEMENT. VERY NON-CONFRONTATIONAL, VERY INFORMATIONAL ONLY, UH, TO GET PEOPLE TO COME IN AND VOLUNTARILY EITHER SET UP A PAYMENT ARRANGEMENT OR, OR GET THEIR TAXES PAID. WE DID THAT, UH, THIS, THIS FALL EARLY, EARLY, UM, IN SEPTEMBER 343 RESIDENCES THAT WE'RE TRYING TO AVOID FILING LAWSUITS. NOT THAT WE OBVIOUSLY EARLIER, YOU KNOW, WE LAWSUITS, BUT WHEN WE FILE A LAWSUIT, IT, IT IS A, IT'S A MINIMUM $500 IN COST TO, TO A HOMEOWNER. AND SOME OF THESE PEOPLE THAT ARE OUT THERE SAY THEY OWE EIGHT OR $900. I MEAN, WE'RE, WE'RE JUST REALLY COMPOUNDING THE PROBLEM. IF WE NEED FOLLOW SUITS, WE'RE TRYING TO GET 'EM TO COME IN AND GET PAID VOLUNTARILY WITHOUT THE NECESSITY OF DOING THAT IF WE CAN. UH, SO WE'RE, WE'RE SPENDING SOME TIME DOING THAT. UH, I THINK IT, IT, IT HAS BEEN, AND WE'LL CONTINUE TO BE SUCCESSFUL, THIS SUCCESSFUL TWO YEARS AGO. I THINK IT'S NOW AS WELL. UH, WE'RE ALSO CONTINUING TO USE PHONE BANK CALLS ON THOSE THAT, UH, WE CAN FIND A PHONE NUMBER FOR, AS EVERYONE IS NOW FAMILIAR. IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE IT. THIS IS MY CELL PHONE, YOU KNOW, 20 YEARS AGO I DIDN'T, I DIDN'T HAVE A CELL PHONE AND ANYBODY IN THE WORLD WANTED ME, COULD LOOK AT ME AND YOU, AUSTIN PHONE BOOK CAN FIND ME. UM, I, WELL I STILL HAVE A LANDLINE. MY CHILDREN DON'T HAVE A LANDLINE. NONE OF THEIR FRIENDS HAVE A LANDLINE AND SOME OF THEIR FRIENDS PARISH DON'T HAVE LANDLINES ANYMORE. SO IT'S [00:30:01] GETTING MORE AND MORE DIFFICULT TO FIND . BUT WE'RE STILL TRYING TO USE SOUND LIKE CAMPAIGNS WHEN WE CAN TO GET HOLD OF THOSE PEOPLE WHO, UH, UH, WHO HAVE TO LINK THE TAXES. UM, AND I, ALL THAT I'VE SAID THIS MORNING, IT DOESN'T MATTER ANYTHING EXCEPT THIS LAST PARAGRAPH, UM, IN, IN THE LAST FISCAL YEAR WE'VE BEEN, WE'VE BEEN RESPONSIBLE FOR HELPING THE CLAY A LITTLE OVER FIVE, ABOUT $5.1 MILLION. UH, THAT'S SIGNIFICANT. UH, WE'RE CONTINUING TO DO WHAT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO DO. ONE OF THE THINGS, AND I DIDN'T, I I SHOULD HAVE PREPARED A GRAPH AND I THOUGHT ABOUT THIS THIS WEEKEND LAST WEEK. I ANALYZED, UH, AND LOOKED AT SOME NUMBERS FOR, FOR THE KAUFFMAN COUNTY JURISDICTIONS IN 2010, IN JULY OF 2010. IT WAS 17 POINT A HALF MILLION DOLLARS TO THE COUNTY. UH, IN JULY OF THIS YEAR, IT WAS 13.8. SO YOUR, YOUR DELINQUENT TAX ROLL IS COMING DOWN. UH, PART OF THAT IS WE'RE WORKING GOOD. PART OF THAT IS Y'ALL ARE, Y'ALL ARE, YOU'RE ACTUALLY HAVING A, A HIGHER PERCENTAGE OF YOUR TAXES PAID MS. RATCLIFFE, WAS IT 98% OR MORE THIS PAST YEAR? I THINK YES. UH, THAT LEAVES LITTLE FOR US TO WORK ON, ALTHOUGH LOUANN WILL TELL YOU THAT WE STILL HAVE PLENTY OF WORK. MM-HMM . AND, AND WE DO. BUT I THINK IT'S SIGNIFICANT THAT YOUR TAX ROLL HAS COME DOWN FROM OVER 17 MILLION NOW TO LESS IMPORTANT. AND THAT'S A, IT'S A, IT'S A GOOD THING FOR THE COUNTY. THAT MEANS MONEY IN ALL THE JURISDICTIONS HANDS AND NOT JUST THE COUNTY, BUT IN ALL THE JURISDICTIONS HANDS. AND THAT, THAT'S A GOOD THING FOR US. A GOOD THING FOR Y'ALL. ANY QUESTIONS? ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR JEFF? I WANNA SAY THANK YOU ONCE AGAIN FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO REPRESENT THE COUNTY. WE, WE REALLY, YOU'VE ENJOYED A LONG RELATIONSHIP AND WE APPRECIATE IT. WE DON'T TAKE IT FOR GRANTED. ANYTIME YOU'ALL NEED ME FREE, JUST LEMME KNOW. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT. I HAVE, UH, WELL THIS IS REQUIRE UPDATE. SO GOOD TO HAVE THAT PERIODIC INFORMATION. ITEM NUMBER FIVE IS TO, UH, JOHNNY COUNTRYMAN OUR TREASURER TO PRESENT AND ACCEPT THE TREASURER'S MONTHLY REPORT. AS YOU THIS TIME OF YEAR, WE START RUNNING, START RUNNING SHORT. IF YOU'LL LOOK AT THAT TOP SCHEDULE THERE. SEE WE LAST MONTH WE UH, SPENT ALMOST 3 MILLION. TOOK IN ABOUT THE COURSE OF OCTOBER ABOUT THE SAME WAY. SO WE'RE CONDUCTED POSITION NOW IN FUNDS, BUT, UH, WE GOT THE LOAN SET UP IF WE NEED. UH, IT'S ALSO THE LAND SALE MONEY THAT COMES TO WORSE THERE TOO. BORROWING THE MONEY. HOPEFULLY WHAT HAPPENED I SAW TODAY, I'LL START HOLDING BACK CHECKS THAT DON'T HAVE TO GO OUT RIGHT NOW. THINK THEY WRITE CHECKS AS THEY COME UP BACK ALL THE ROAD DIVISION GO OUT. ATTORNEY. ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOLLOWING OUR TRAILER? WHY WOULD WE, UH, HOW DOES IT HAPPEN? WE'RE SPENDING TWO OR THREE, $3 MILLION A MONTH. AND OUR BUDGET SEPTEMBER AND OCTOBER WHEN THIS ARE, WE HAVE BILLS THAT COME DUE AT THE END OF THE YEAR THAT CAUSED THAT NUMBER TO GO WAY UP VERSUS YOU DO IN OCTOBER ESPECIALLY, HAVE ALL THAT, THAT COURT STUFF YOU PAY OFF AND COURSE PAYMENTS COME UP ALL TIME. PAYROLL, PAYROLL, LOT OF MONEY ISN'T BIG. INSURANCE PAYMENT TOO. INSURANCE PAYMENT. INSURANCE. SO THE KIND OF BILLS THAT COME IN AT THE LAST, IT'S NOT PEOPLE OVERSPENDING. NO. ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? JOHNNY ALSO HAS A REPORT ON ITEM NUMBER SIX. ON ITEM NUMBER FIVE. DID ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OVER THE, UH, TREASURY'S REPORT FOR SEPTEMBER, 2014? MOTION. MOTION COMMISSIONER MAKES A MOTION. UH, COMMISSIONER SHANE SECOND MOTION. OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. A OPPOSED ITEM NUMBER STILL UNDERNEATH THERE. POINT PAPER. TWO THINGS. 5%. THAT'S WHAT SMALL. THIS IS A COURT RELIEF REPORT, I BELIEVE. AND, UH, YOU HAVE SOME MONEY IN CDS. I THINK IT ALL IN. WE HAVE ALL, OKAY. HEARING, NOT PAYING VERY MUCH IS CDS ARE NOT EITHER FOR YOUR CD PERCENT. ANY QUESTIONS OF THE NO. A MOTION TO ACCEPT COURT COMMISSIONER MANNING MAKES THAT MOTION. MR. SHANE'S SECOND MOTION. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. A. THOSE OPPOSED. THANK YOU. UH, ITEM NUMBER SEVEN IS TO HEAR [00:35:01] FROM OUR TAX DIRECTOR FOR HER REPORT. OKAY. THROUGH LAST FISCAL YEAR, WE COLLECTED $28,236,260 FOR, UM, 98.3%, UH, COLLECTION RATE FOR A ROAD AND BRIDGE. WE ALSO HAD 98.3% COLLECTION RATE. WE COLLECTED A TOTAL OF $4,295,719. OVER THE COURSE OF THE LAST FISCAL YEAR, WE DID NOT HAVE ANY ROLLBACK TAXES THAT WE COLLECTED FOR THE MONTH OF SEPTEMBER. SO THERE MAY HAVE BEEN SOME, SOME PEOPLE WHO PUT THEIR PROPERTY ROLLED IT BACK, BUT WE HAVEN'T COLLECTED THE TAXES YET, SO HAVEN'T HEARD ABOUT YET. RIGHT. SO I'M JUST GLAD TO SEE THE ROLLBACK PATCHES COMING IN. THAT'S A GOOD SIGN FOR US. YEAH. WELL WE DID GET, YOU KNOW, $71,687 IN ROLLBACK TAXES THIS LAST YEAR. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS REPORT? ANYBODY HAVE A QUESTION OF MS. IFF FOR THE, UH, TAX ELECTRIC REPORT FOR SEPTEMBER? I WELL, UH, WE BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION THE DAY THAT THE TAX STATEMENTS DIDN'T GO OUT UNTIL THE MIDDLE OF THE MONTH. THAT'S CORRECT. IT'S THAT LATER THAN NORMAL. IT IS ABOUT A WEEKLY. WE DON'T GET ALL OF OUR INFORMATION USUALLY UNTIL ABOUT 30TH OF SEPTEMBER ANYWAY. SO THE LAW READS THEY HAVE TILL 30 SEPTEMBER TO GIVE US THE INFORMATION AND WE'RE SUPPOSED TO HAVE THE TAX STATEMENTS OUT ONE OCTOBER OR AS SOON THEREAFTER. IT'S PRACTICAL. SO, UH, WE HAD SOME ISSUES WITH OUR PRINTING COMPANY THIS YEAR, UH, WAS NOT HAPPY WITH OUR SERVICE AT ALL AND THAT TOOK US AN EXTRA WEEK THAT WE PROBABLY WOULD'VE HAD 'EM OUT A WEEK EARLIER. BUT IT'S STILL WITHIN PLENTY OF TIME THAT NEED ANY REGULATIONS. BUT YES, THEY, THEY'RE ALL OUT NOW, BUT THEY WERE A WEEK LATER THAN WE NORMALLY GET THEM KNOW. DO WE NEED TO LOOK AT CHANGING CREDIT COMPANIES? ABSOLUTELY. I THOUGHT THAT MIGHT BE THE ANSWER. WE WENT WITH THIS ONE BECAUSE I THINK IT SAVED US, WHAT, FIVE OR 6,000 I THINK, RIGHT? IT IT WAS BELOW COST BUT IT WAS A LOT OF, UH, EXTRA EFFORT ON OUR PART AND A LOT OF THINGS THEY DIDN'T WANT DO THAT. WE HAD TO MAKE THEM HOLD THEIR FEET TO THE FIRE EQUIP THEY AGREED TO. SO SOMETIMES THE LOW BID ISN'T ALWAYS GREAT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THE STATE COURT? ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? MS. ALLOWED ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ACCEPT HER REPORT. MR. ZALE MAKES THAT MOTION. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. COMMISSIONER CLARK SECONDS MOTION. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AND THEN ITEM NUMBER EIGHT, IT'S TO DISCUSS WITH AND CONSIDER ADDING TERESA, FLOYD AND RUTH LAW TO THE LIST OF REPUBLICAN JUDGES AND ALTERNATES. YES. WE NEED THIS AGENDA ITEM BECAUSE IN ORDER TO HAVE THE COMMISSIONERS NEED TO BE NAMING BY NAME WHO WORKS IN THE COUNTY STATION ON ELECTION NIGHT. AND IN ORDER TO BE THE PRESIDING OR ALTERNATE JUDGE IN THAT ROOM, YOU NEED TO BE ON THE LIST OF JUDGES BY ONE OR THE OTHER PARTIES. AND, UM, THE, SO THE REPUBLICAN PARTY HAS REQUESTED THAT THESE TWO NAMES BE LISTED AND THEY'RE LISTED. JUDGES, JUDGES. OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER SHANE. DO WE HAVE A SECOND COMMISSIONER SECONDS? ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THE SAY AYE. AYE ADAM, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ITEM NUMBER NINE IS TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDERING A CENTRAL COUNTY STATION, UH, APPOINTING OR APPOINTING CENTRAL COUNTY PERSONNEL AND THEIR COMPENSATION, UH, FOR THE NOVEMBER 4TH ELECTION. SO WE HAVE THE LIST HERE THAT, UH, PRESIDING JUDGE, ULTIMATE JUDGE AND MANAGERS AND SUPERVISORS THAT WE'D LIKE FOR YOU TO POINT. UH, DO YOU Y'ALL HAVE THAT LIST THERE? YES. UH, I'M NOT REQUESTING ADDITIONAL COMPENSATION. BY LAW YOU CAN, UM, COMPENSATE MORE THAN THEIR PAY. AND IF WE WERE HAVING PEOPLE WHO WERE NOT EMPLOYEES, THEN WE WOULD DEFINITELY NEED YOU TO DESIGNATE THEIR PAY. BUT BECAUSE WE ARE, UH, INTENDING TO USE EMPLOYEES, WE'LL JUST PAY THEM WHAT, WHAT THEIR RATE IS. THAT'S MY SUGGESTION. THAT'S WHAT I RECOMMEND. OKAY. AND THESE ARE THE PEOPLE THAT I RECOMMEND FOR THOSE PARTICULAR POSITIONS. ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? HAVE THEY NOT ALWAYS USED THESE PEOPLE ANYWAY? PRETTY MUCH, YES. PREVIOUSLY? YES. UH, YES. THEY'VE ALL WORKED IN ELECTIONS FOR, FOR YEARS. HELPED OUT FOR YOUR ANYWAY, GOOD JOB. YES. HE JUST MAKING IT FORMALIZE. EXACTLY. WE'LL HAVE A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER SHANE. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? [00:40:01] SECOND? GOT A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER. HAVE A QUESTION. I'M GONNA SECOND IT ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. THOSE OPPOSED. AND THEN CON JUST GOT ALL KINDS OF THINGS FOR US TODAY. ITEM NUMBER 10 IS DISCUSS AND CONSIDER SIGNING A CONTRACT WITH FORTE FOR CREDIT CARD SERVICE FOR THE TAX OFFICE. I'VE BEEN RESEARCHING, TRYING TO GET A BETTER DEAL FOR THE CITIZENS OF KAUFMAN COUNTY RIGHT NOW WHEN THEY PAY THEIR TAXES BY CREDIT CARD, UH, IF THEY PAY, UH, AT ONE OF OUR STATIONS, THEY PAY A 2.65 FEE. UH, THAT'S 2.65 OF WHATEVER THEIR TAXES ARE THAT THEY'RE PAYING. THEY GOTTA PAY THAT PERCENTAGE OF IT TO USE A CREDIT CARD. AND IF YOU DO IT ONLINE, IT'S 2.5%. 'CAUSE WE HAVE TWO DIFFERENT COMPANIES. I WOULD LIKE TO COMBINE BOTH SERVICES UNDER ONE CONTRACT, UH, USING FORTE AND THEY'RE GONNA GIVE US A 2.35%, WHICH IS DECIDED TO BE BETTER THAN 2.5 OR 2.65% OF THE TOTAL CASE. NOT. AND THE ONLY, THERE'S A COUPLE OF WORDING ISSUES LEFT THAT, UH, THAT I HAVE WITH LEGAL WITH JOHN. UH, SO WHAT I'M ASKING IS THAT YOU GIVE THE JUDGE PERMISSION TO SIGN THIS CONTRACT ONCE JOHN AND I ARE COMPLETELY SURE WE HAVE A COUPLE SENTENCES THERE WE WANT TO TWEAK. BUT THE MAIN POINT IS TO GET A BETTER TAX RATE FOR THE CITIZENS. YOU KNOW, A RATE OF WHAT THEY HAVE TO PAY, RIGHT? THE ADMINISTRATIVE FEES THAT THEY HAVE TO PAY TO PAY BY CREDIT CARD AND, AND DEBIT FEES. AND THEN IT ALSO, WE'LL CONSOLIDATE FROM TWO COMPANIES TO ONE COMPANY BECAUSE RIGHT NOW WE USE ONE FOR ONLINE AND ONE FOR IN-HOUSE. SO I'D LIKE PERMISSION TO, I GOT ONE QUESTION FOR YOU. YES. ON THE UNDER ITEM OF 12 FOR PRICING AND PAYMENT MM-HMM . THIS SAYS FOUR TABLE PROVIDED SERVICES IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE PRICE OF FEE SCHEDULES ATTACHED HERE TOO AS APPENDIX A. OKAY. THAT'S WHAT I DID GET. OKAY. HOW ARE WE, ARE WE GETTING PAID PRETTY GOOD BY THE PEOPLE RIGHT NOW? WE HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT THAT WANT TO PAY BY CREDIT CARD. BUT, BUT I'M TALKING ABOUT WHEN THE CREDIT CARD, WHEN WHEN THE CREDIT CARD RECEIVES THE MONEY, HOW FAST DO THEY TURN IT OVER? BACK TO OUR, TO THE COUNTY? OH, IT'S INSTANTANEOUS. IT'S ALL DONE BY A CH BASICALLY THROUGH, SO IT'S, YES, IT'S VERY QUICK WHEN WE GET IT AND YOU CHECKED THIS COMPANY OUT THEN TO SEE THAT THEY'LL DO THAT BECAUSE A LOT OF TIMES THE CREDIT CARD COMPANY WAS A WHOLE SIX MONTHS. NO, WE TALKED ABOUT THAT. WHEN YOU'RE IN BUSINESS, IT REALLY, AND IT'S THEIR DISCRETION. A LOT OF TIMES THEY'VE GOT WRITTEN CONTRACT. SO ANYWAY, YOU SURE HAVE TO WATCH IT. SO, UH, THAT'D BE MY CONCERN ABOUT . BUT LIKE I SAID, YOU UNDERSTOOD, YOU TALK TO OTHER PEOPLE AND MAKE TURN THE MONEY OVER QUICK. SO THAT'S WHAT WE WANT. UH, RIGHT. WE'RE JUST, I'VE READ THROUGH THE CONTRACT, HANG ON. AND, AND THERE IS A LITTLE BIT OF WORK TO DO ON THE CONTRACT. JUST A COUPLE THINGS I CAUGHT WHEN I READ IT THROUGH AGAIN. ONE MORE TIME. YOU CATCH A LITTLE SOMETHING THAT WE, WE WANT TO WORK OUT. BUT THE MAIN THING IS I'D LIKE TO CONSOLIDATE DOWN TO ONE COMPANY AND GET A COMPANY THAT'LL GIVE THE CITIZENS A BETTER RATE OF PAYMENT. I BELIEVE YOU'VE GOT EVERYBODY THAT ISSUED CREDIT CARDS IN THIS SITUATION. THEY DON'T HAVE A, THEY HAVE A CARD NOW. YES. THAT'S BETTER TOO. SO HAS JOHN READ THIS CONTRACT? HE HAS. AND UH, WE HAVE, WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT THE FACT THAT WE ARE NOT READY TO SAY SIGN THIS ONE RIGHT HERE. THERE'S A COUPLE OF SENTENCES THERE THAT WE WANNA TO TWEAK, UH, WITH THE WAY THEY WANNA GET THE MONEY OUT OF OUR ACCOUNT. SOME THINGS THAT WE'RE NOT CLEAR EXACTLY HOW THAT WORDING SHOULD BE. SO WE'RE GONNA FIX THAT. IS THERE ANY PENALTY, UM, IN HERE FOR IF WE WANT TO TERMINATE IT PENALTY? NO, BUT THERE'S THREE YEARS OF THE CONTRACT. WE DON'T EVEN HAVE TO GO FOR THREE YEARS. IF WE WANTED TO GO FOR ONE YEAR, WE COULD JUST SAY LET'S TRY IT FOR ONE YEAR AND SEE IF WE LIKE IT, YOU KNOW, AND THEN RE-UP EACH, EACH YEAR. ONE THING I NOTICED IN HERE WAS THE E OUT. WELL, AND WE ASKED HIM THAT LAST FRIDAY. THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS WE ASKED ABOUT CHANGING WAS COULD WE CHANGE IT TO ONE YEAR IN CASE, YOU KNOW, IT'S A NEW COMPANY AND CASE. IT'S LIKE THAT PRINTING COMPANY. THAT'S WHAT I WAS BEING TO SAY. WE JUST DISCUSSED THE PRINTING COMPANY. RIGHT? SO, UH, I I ASKED THAT QUESTION LAST, LAST WEEK SO THAT WE CAN, THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS I WANTED. TWEAK A GOOD IDEA. TAKE IT DOWN TO ONE YEAR CONTRACT. LITTLE MORE CONTROL. GIVE HIM LI C BE ON TOP OF THE OKAY. TAKE IT TO ONE YEAR. OKAY GENTLEMEN, WATCH YOU PLEASE. UH, MOTION WITH A ONE YEAR, ONE YEAR CONTRACT. WE HAVE THAT MOTION FOR MR. SHANE. HAVE A SECOND. SECOND. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? SHOULD MOTION BE WITH APPROVAL? [00:45:01] ALLOW YOU TO DECIDE WITH APPROVAL OF INTERNAL LEGAL. YEAH. YOU'RE NOT SIGNING THAT. YEAH. OKAY. SO WITH THAT BEING PART OF IT, UH, ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. OPPOSED? THANK YOU THOMAS. THANK YOU GENTLEMEN. ITEM NUMBER 11, CODE 50 ASSIST POINT FOR THEIR ROAD IMPROVEMENT. ALLOWING THE USE ER AN OPERATOR FOR APPROXIMATELY FOUR HOURS AT NO COST. THIS WAS PLACED ON THE BY COMMISSIONER CLARK? YES SIR. THE CITY HAD A, I BELIEVE EITHER RENTED A PIECE OF EQUIPMENT, EQUIP OVER THERE TO DO SOME OF THE ROAD REPAIRS. THEY DIDN'T QUITE GET THROUGH ONE LITTLE SHORT SECTION. THEY WANTED TO KNOW IF WE COULD COME OVER AND JUST MIX IT UP FOR 'EM. UH, RIGHT. LITTLE SHORT SECTION. THEY'D BE THROUGH AT THEIR PROJECT FOR THE YEAR. BUT THEY DONE THEIR EQUIPMENT DO THE BROKE DOWN OR WENT BACK TO REAL LEGAL OR WHATEVER. SO THEY DIDN'T HAVE WAY TO MIX IT FOR, LIKE I SAID, ABOUT A FOUR HOUR DONE. DOES THAT READ? WE HAVE, DO WE HAVE IT IN A LOCAL REFORM PLACE? I BELIEVE SO, BUT I DON'T THINK THIS REQUIRE BE A LOCAL, IT DOES REQUIRE HAND. WELL I, I'LL I'LL LEAVE THAT TO THE, TO THE LEGAL, BUT I DON'T SEE ANYTHING IN THIS STATUTE THAT SAYS YOU HAVE TO HAVE AN A AGREEMENT. ANY, ANY WORK DONE WITH THE CITY REQUIRES INTER LOCAL AGREEMENT AND A PROJECT AGREEMENT. UM, AND IT REQUIRES A LOCATION, A ROAD NUMBER OR SOME DESIGNATED LOCATION I HAVE HERE FROM OUR DISTRICT ATTORNEY. WHAT SHE HELPED PREPARE ME FOR DEALING WITH THE CITIES BECAUSE THE CITY'S BOMBARDED ME CONTINUALLY BECAUSE I HAVE FIVE IN MY PRECINCT. RIGHT. AND, UH, MY FEAR OF DOING IT FOR FREE OF CHARGE IS THAT IT'S GOING TO SET A PRECEDENT FOR THE EXISTING COMMISSIONERS AND THE FUTURE COMMISSIONERS THAT WE'RE TRYING TO FOLLOW THE, THE GUIDELINES THAT, UM, EACH CITY PAYS THEIR PORTION AND IT'S JUST AT A COST. YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT MAKING ANY MONEY. WE CHARGE THEM WHATEVER IT COSTS. AND I KNOW TOM HAS SEVERAL CITIES LIKE I DO AND, UH, I HATE TO, I I DON'T WANT SOMETHING THAT WE AGREED TO TODAY TO INITIATE, YOU KNOW, MALICE AND DISCONTENT FOR THE FUTURE COMMISSIONERS ON ANY PROJECT FOR THE CITIES. UM, I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO SEE US CHARGED 'CAUSE I KNOW THE CITY HAS THE ABILITY TO PAY, UH, UNLIKE BEING WITH THE CITIES THAT I DEAL WITH. BUT THE ISSUE WAS NOT WHETHER THEY HAD THE ABILITY TO PAY OR NOT. THE ISSUE WAS WHETHER THEY HAD THE TIMEFRAME TO GET BOTH THE P DONE BY THE COURT AND BY THE CITY. RIGHT. AND JOHN DOES IT, DO YOU KNOW IF IT REQUIRES AN LOCAL AGREEMENT TO DO THIS? I WANTED THE SECTION HUH? WE'RE WE'RE THE SECTION TO READ THROUGH IT. OH, OKAY. TYPICALLY AN INTER LOCAL. I DON'T SEE ANYTHING IN THIS PARTICULAR STATUTE THAT SAYS THAT, BUT THERE COULD BE SOMETHING ELSE THAT DOES SAY THAT SOMEWHERE. AND JUST FOR RECORD, THIS COURT HAS APPROVED IN THE CONTRACT JUST LIKE THIS WITH THE CITY FARM PREVIOUSLY, I BELIEVE IT WAS IN APRIL OR MAY OF THIS YEAR ARE THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE CODE JOHN 7 9 1 0.014 APPROVAL REQUIREMENT FOR COUNTIES. IT MISSED THE, THE PROJECT RELATES TO THE INTER LOCAL AGREEMENT AND THE PROJECT ON THEIRS. WHAT IF, IF YOU'RE GONNA BE CHARGED RIGHT. WE'RE NOT GONNA CHARGE THEM OR I, I I PROPOSE NOT TO CHARGE HIM FOR THE FOUR OH DOLLARS. AND LIKE I SAY, I, I JUST HATE TO SEE IT COMMIT US TO FUTURE INSTANCES WHERE ONCE IT GETS OUT THAT WE'RE DOING STUFF FOR FREE FOR THE CITIES THAT ALL OF OUR CITIES WOULD HOLD THEIR FEET TO THE FIRE TO, TO DO STUFF FOR FREE. UH, WHEN WE, I, YOU KNOW, AS A TAXPAYER, I'D LIKE TO SEE OUR ROAD AND BRIDGE MONEY SPENT ON THE COUNTY ROADS AS WELL. UH, MAINLY, YOU KNOW, I, I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM ASSISTING THE CITIES AT, AT WHATEVER IT COSTS US TO, TO UH, DO THE PROJECT. 'CAUSE I DO THAT. I THINK WE ALL DO THAT, BUT, WELL THIS WAS A MECHANISM I WAS TRYING TO USE TO MAKE SURE THAT, I BELIEVE THAT JOHN HAD ADDRESSED THIS BACK WHENEVER KEN GOT, UH, FOULED UP OVER ON COPPER ROAD, ONTARIO. HE SAID, I BELIEVE, DON'T QUOTE ME IF I, I MEAN I'M NOT QUOTING JOHN, BUT WHAT I REMEMBER FROM READING HIS THING WAS THAT IT TAKES A FINDING OF THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT TO BE ABLE TO USE 2 51 4 0 1 5. THAT'S WHAT I'M ASKING FOR IS A FINDING FOR DOES THIS, UH, WHAT'S THE TERMINOLOGY WE NEED TO USE ON IS THIS ASSISTING? [00:50:01] UH, IS THERE A PURPOSE SERVED BY US DOING THIS THAT WOULD HELP THE CITY AS THE COUNTY? WELL I'M, SO IF WE AGREE ON, I'M SURE IT IS. IF YOU AGREE ON THIS, THEN, THEN IF IT DOES ASSIST, YOU KNOW, IF IT DOES COMPLETE THAT PURPOSE, THEN YOU CAN UTILIZE THIS 2 51 0.015. IT'S AT YOUR DISCRETION WHETHER YOU WANT TO DO IT OR NOT. RIGHT. A LOT OF THIS, I THINK IT TAKES A COURT DECISION AS TO WHETHER THIS IS, YOU KNOW, ACTUALLY, I MEAN I REALIZE THAT A LOT OF THIS HAS TO DO WITH TIMEFRAME BECAUSE WE'RE RUNNING OUT OF TIME. BUT, UH, I'M HAVE TO AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER BECAUSE, UH, TRANSLATION OF THIS ACTION BY THE COURT SOMETIMES ISN'T CLEAR TO THE CITIES. AND I GOT 'EM JUMPING UP AND DOWN RIGHT NOW WANTING ME TO GO TO WORK IN THESE CITIES AND THEY DON'T, THEY DON'T HAVE MONEY TO DO ALL THIS STUFF THAT THEY WANT TO DO AND YOU AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER. AND IT'S THE SAME OLD TALE OVER AND OVER. UH, AND IF YOU, IF WE DON'T CHARGE A CITY POINT, I BELIEVE IT'S, IT'S GOING SEND A MESSAGE THAT'S GOING, IT'S GOING TO GO TO THE NEXT GUY. THEY'RE GOING BE JUMPING UP AND DOWN ON HIM JUST LIKE THEY ARE ME FIXED UP FOR, FOR THE LAST YEAR AND 10 MONTHS. WE'VE BEEN PRETTY CONSISTENT ON THE INTERLOCAL AGREEMENTS AND OUR PROJECT AGREEMENTS. I THINK, UM, I JUST HATE TO SEE US BREAK THAT CONSISTENCY AND START, UH, IN A DIFFERENT DIRECTION. WELL THERE'S A DOLLAR LIMIT ON THIS. IF YOU COULD, AND I AGREE WITH YOU, I AGREE WITH BOTH OF Y'ALL ON IT. I'M JUST SAYING, IS THIS A LEGAL MECHANISM TO ASSIST A CITY AS OPPOSED TO JUST GOING OUT THERE ON YOUR OWN AND DOING THE WORK AND NOT GETTING PAID FOR IT, RIGHT. LIKE IT'S BEEN HAPPENING IN THE PAST. COMMISSIONER, I'M, I'M, I'M SITTING HERE LOOKING AT THE SECTION. YOU'RE RIGHT, THERE'S A DOLLAR LIMIT, 15,000, THERE'S A SECOND CONDITION THAT USE OF THE EQUIPMENT DOES NOT INTERFERE WITH THE COUNTY'S WORK SCHEDULE, WHICH YOU PROBABLY HAVE THAT IN THE THIRD ONE, WHICH BECOMES MORE PROBLEMATIC IS THE COUNTY PAYS ONLY THE COST OF THE COUNTY WOULD PAY IF THE COUNTY DID NOT ASSIST THE GOVERNMENT ENTITY. AND, AND IF, IF WE'RE LOSING THE USE OF A PIECE OF EQUIPMENT FOR SEVERAL HOURS, I THINK WE WOULD PAY FOR THAT, FOR THAT. BUT, BUT I DUNNO HOW THAT'S SCHEDULED. I DUNNO HOW VALUABLE THAT IS. DO YOU, DO YOU HAVE A SENSE OF WHAT THAT IS WORTH? UH, WELL IT KIND OF, THAT'S PRETTY MUCH UP IN THERE. IF YOU HAVE TO PAY, UH, DELIVERY AND PICKUP UP CHARGES LIKE KEN HAD TO DO OVER ONTARIO OVER THERE, IT'S WHAT, SIX OR A HUNDRED, $1,200 TO DELIVER AND PICK UP TO DO A THIS, THIS PROBABLY WON'T TAKE OVER TWO OR THREE HOURS AND IT'S NOT A BIG DEAL ONE WAY OR THE OTHER. I JUST WANT, I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHETHER THIS IS A LEGAL MECHANISM. CAN, IF WE WANT TO DO THIS, COULD WE DO THIS? IF YOU SAY NO, THEN WE WON'T DO IT. 'CAUSE YOU'RE FINDING IT DOESN'T CREATE A PUBLIC PURPOSE. BUT, AND CAN YOU, DO YOU NEED MORE TIME TO RESEARCH? I DON'T, I HATE DROP IT ON. DO YOU NEED MORE TIME TO RESEARCH THAT? WE, I MIGHT, BUT EVEN IF I DID, I'M, I'M KIND OF STUCK ON THREE. THE COUNTY PAYS ONLY, ONLY THE COST THAT THE COUNTY WOULD PAY THE COUNTY DOES NOT ASSISTED WITH. I NEVER UNDERSTOOD THAT PARTY . IF IF, IF YOU GIVE THEM SOMETHING YOU WOULD NOT OTHERWISE GIVE THEM, THEN I THINK THAT'S THE PROBLEM FOR ME. I'M NOT SAYING IT'S A BAD IDEA. THAT'S THE PART THAT SEEMS LIKE I KNOW HE MEANS WELL AND IT'S UNINTENTIONALLY CONSEQUENCES THAT WE MAY HAVE TO DEAL WITH FUTURE. BUT NO, I'LL BE GLAD TO LOOK INTO IT. SPECIFIC ANSWER, GIVE US MORE DEFENDANT ANSWER. WELL, IT IS ALSO A TOWN THING. I KNOW BECAUSE THE WEATHER'S IT'S COMING. IT'S NOT HERE YET, BUT IT'S COMING. BUT IT, YOU KNOW, UH, IF THEY COULD GO THROUGH AND HAVE AN LOCAL AGREEMENT AND PROJECT AGREEMENT AND PAY THE TOTAL OF $400 OR WHATEVER, I BELIEVE IT WOULD ALLEVIATE PROBLEMS DOWN THE ROAD FOR THESE PEOPLE WHO, WHO'S WANTING THEIR COMM COMMISS COME INTO THE CITIES AND FIX THE ROAD AND SAY, WELL, WE ONLY GOT X AMOUNT OF DOLLARS AND, AND THE PROJECT'S GONNA COST DOUBLE X. SO I GUESS WHAT JOHN, YOU PREPARED TO GIVE US TODAY, I'D LIKE A LITTLE MORE TIME, BUT, UH, OKAY. YEAH, I'M, I'M, I'M THE MAY HAVE ALREADY LAPSED ON TO GET THIS DONE. I JUST WANTED TO SEE IS THIS A LEGAL MECHANISM TO DO THIS? HOW, HOW IS IT DONE? WELL, IT'S A, I THINK IT'S A LEGAL MECHANISM AND I, I THINK, I THINK THAT IF THE SUBJECT TO THE VOTE OF THE COURT, THE COURT'S RIGHTS TO SAY, BECAUSE ALL THE PROJECT AGREEMENTS THAT I'VE SUBMITTED IN THE PAST [00:55:01] FOR THE I HAVE, I HAVE TO INCLUDE THIS GOV GOVERNMENT CODE 2 51 0.015. AND I WOULD SUGGEST THAT Y'ALL DO THE SAME THING IF IT DO. BECAUSE WHEN YOU SAY YOU'RE GONNA DO A JOB FOR $1,200, WHAT COULD COST 1400? IF YOU GOT THIS IN THERE, YOU'VE GOT THAT LITTLE LEEWAY, YOU CAN SAY, WELL I'M GETTING PAID BOTH OF IT, BUT I CAN'T ASSIST YOU ABOVE THE, ABOVE THE 1200 THAT GOES BACK TO THE 15,000. IT SHOULD BE PUT ON THE, ON THE, UH, ANALYTICAL AGREEMENT AND THE PROJECT I PUT ON THE, I PUT ON THE PROJECT AGREEMENT TO CODE 2 51. YEAH. TO MAKE SURE THAT, 'CAUSE YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU GET INTO EXACTLY HOW LONG IT'S GONNA TAKE TO DO A LOT OF THOSE THINGS. ESTIMATES. ESTIMATES, THERE ARE ESTIMATES OF GOOD BANK ESTIMATES, BUT TECHNICALLY WHEN SOMEBODY COMES DOWN AND WAS TO AUDIT YOU AND WHAT IT DID COST YOU $1,400 VERSUS 1200. YEAH. THAT GIVES YOU A LITTLE LEEWAY IN THERE TO DO THAT WITH. THAT'S HOW, THAT'S WHAT I'VE BEEN INCLUDE. THAT'S A GOOD IDEA. BUT INCLUDE, AND WE'VE DONE THAT IN THE PAST AND THE COURT PROVE TO, BUT IF JOHN NEEDS MORE TIME TO LOOK AT, AND I'M FINE WITH IT. UH, I'LL MAKE A MOTION. WE TABLE THIS. OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION TO TABLE. UH, ITEM NUMBER 14, ITEM NUMBER, THE TIME TO REVIEW THAT. HAVE A SECOND. UH, MR. MANNING. SECOND, THE MOTION DISCUSSIONS ARE IN FAVOR TO SAY AYE. OPPOSED? ITEM NUMBER, UH, 12 IS TO DISCUSS, CONSIDER ACCORDING RESOLUTION PROPOSITION ONE CONSTITUTION AMENDMENT FOR ADDITIONAL FUNDING FOR THE TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC SAFETY. THIS IS THE ELECTION THAT IS GOING ON NOW, AND IT DOES, UH, PROVIDE THE, UH, STATE WITH ADDITIONAL MONEY TO HELP, UH, ROAD CONSTRUCTION. MY UNDERSTANDING IT DOES NOT GO FOR TO ROADS, DOES NOT GO FOR, UH, UH, ANYTHING THAT REGULAR CONSTRUCTION DOES NOT PLAY A LOAN OR, UH, BACK UP A LOAN OR ANYTHING. IT'S JUST FOR, UH, INDIVIDUAL, UH, PROJECTS. UH, ONE POINT, I BELIEVE IT'S $1.7 BILLION THAT INSTEAD OF BEING, UH, GOING INTO THE, UH, RAINY DAY FUND, HALF OF IT WOULD BE DIVERTED TO THE, UH, UH, STATE, UH, DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION FOR HIGHWAY PROJECTS. SO WHAT'S YOUR, WHAT, WHERE WILL THIS GO TO? OUR LEGISLATURES OR? YEAH, WE'LL SEND IT TO THE, UH, YEAH, IT'S REALLY KIND OF MOOT AT THIS POINT. I WOULD, IT'S GOING PASS, BUT I, I CAN SEND THOSE STATE LIST, NOT EVEN SEND ANYTHING. WELL, THE PURPOSE OF THE PURPOSE OF US DOING THIS IS SEND IT TO THE, TO OR STATE SENATOR, STATE REPRESENTATIVE, SEND IT TO THE TEXAS HIGHWAY COMMISSION, SEND IT TO THE, UH, COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENTS SHOWING THAT WE'RE RECOGNIZING THE NEED FOR MORE FUNDING. THIS IS NOT GONNA SOLVE THE PROBLEMS THROUGHOUT STATE. BUT THIS ALSO HAS A, A CAVEAT IN IT THE FIRST TIME EVER THAT THE STATE HAS LEFT AN OPENING FOR SOME OF THE STATE MONEY TO BE SPENT ON COUNTY ROADS. NOW, IF THEY DON'T HAVE ANYBODY ALLOCATED FOR THAT, BUT IF THIS AMENDMENT PASSES IN THE FUTURE, THERE COULD BE SOME MONEY TO COME BACK DOWN FOR COUNTY ROADS. SO THIS IS GOING TO TAKE HALF OF A RAINY DAY FUND AND GIVE IT TO TAX DOCK. NO HALF OF WHAT GOES INTO IT EACH YEAR, HALF DAY. AND, AND I JIMMY, I I, I BELIEVE THAT THESE, AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE AMOUNT IS, BUT I BELIEVE THAT WITHIN THE NEXT COUPLE OF YEARS, ASSUME THE OIL AND GAS REVENUE CONTINUES TO FLOW. THE RAINY DAY FUND WILL REACH ITS CAP. IN OTHER WORDS, IT'S, IT'S CA AT THAT. RIGHT. IT WON'T BE ADDED TO, IT WON'T BE TAKEN FROM, BUT IT'LL BE ADDED TO. AND WHAT I'VE READ, Y'ALL HAVE PROBABLY READ AS MUCH AS I HAVE IS THAT IT WOULDN'T, UH, GO AHEAD AND TAKE SOME OF THAT MONEY NOW AND UTILIZE IT TO, UH, UH, FUND PROJECTS IN THE STATE, BUT AWAY KIND OF LIKE WHAT YOU HEARD JOHN POLLSTER SAY LONG AGO WITH OUR PROJECTS THAT, UH, THAT IT, SOME OF THIS MONEY CAN VERY LIKELY EVEN COME TO, UH, TO PROJECTS AS WELL. AND ALSO I BELIEVE THAT THAT MORE OUR, THAT COLMAN COUNTY'S, UH, NAME AND, AND DOCUMENTS WERE SENT TO THE LEGISLATURE, I BELIEVE THAT, THAT IT STAYS IN THEIR MIND AND SAY, WELL, THEY, THEY'VE SUBMITTED AND THEY'VE SUPPORTED THESE, THESE ACTIONS TRYING TO GET FUNDING FOR THE ROADS. AND, YOU KNOW, I, I JUST BELIEVE IT'LL HELP LATER ON. DO WE KNOW IF ANY OTHER COUNTIES HAVE DONE THIS? YEAH, I KNOW ZA COUNTY, DID I READ THE PAPER WHERE THEY DID? AND I HAVEN'T REALLY, I HAVEN'T REALLY CHECKED TO FIND OUT. I, I KNOW THERE'S BEEN A PUSH TO GET COUNTIES TO DO THIS ACROSS THE, THE STATE, BUT I READ, I BELIEVE IN [01:00:01] THE VAN, UH, ONE OF THE NEWSPAPERS THERE THAT THE, UH, VAN COUNTY COMMISSIONER'S COURT I THINK PASSED IT LAST WEEK. UH, AND I DON'T KNOW ABOUT ANY OF THE OTHER COUNTIES, BUT, UH, WELL, THE VOTERS WON'T DETERMINE WHAT THIS PASSES OR NOT, RIGHT. IT DOESN'T PASS THIS, THIS SHOWS WHEN THE VOTERS 'CAUSE THIS, MY, MY ESTIMATE IS WHAT I'VE BEEN WRONG FOR IS THIS IS GOING TO PASS. UH, I SEE THIS, THIS WILL JUST SHOW THAT TO THE, THE, TO THE LEGISLATURE IN AUSTIN THAT WE'RE, IT'S SUPPORTIVE OF THAT AND SUPPORTIVE FINDING MORE MONEY YOU FOR OUR ROADS. THE ONLY PROBLEM IS THAT IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE A SAVINGS ACCOUNT FOR HARD TIMES OR, YOU KNOW, THEY'VE GOT A LEVEL THAT THEY'RE NOT GONNA TOUCH IT AT. IT'S, IT'S A SURPLUS OVER A CERTAIN AMOUNT BEFORE THEY GET INTO IT. BUT IT'S GONNA BE A YEAR TO YEAR PAYOUT. LIKE YOU SAID, HALF OF THE, THE REVENUE IS GONNA BE COMING IN AFTER, AFTER THAT LEVEL IS REACHED. THEY'RE GONNA KEEP THAT SAVING AFTER THE, THEY'RE GONNA KEEP THAT SAVING ACCOUNT, ISN'T THERE? I UNDERSTAND. IS THAT CORRECT? WELL, WHAT I, WHAT I'VE READ, WHAT I UNDERSTAND IS THEY'RE GOING TAKE, IF IT'S $3 BILLION, IT GOES INTO THE, THEY'RE GOING TAKE HALF AND SEND IT TO FOR ROAD AND BRIDGE PROJECTS ACROSS THE STATE, PART OF THE STATE OF TEXAS. AND THEN AT SOME POINT IN TIME, I DUNNO HOW LONG IT'S BEEN, I GUESS ALL THAT BE DETERMINED BY HOW THE OIL AND GAS REVENUE COMES, WHICH STILL IN, AT THAT POINT IN TIME, THERE IS A STATUTORY LIMIT TO THE TOP OF THE RAINY DAY FIRM. AND THEN THAT MONEY WILL BE DIVERTED ELSEWHERE FOR OTHER STATE NEEDS AS WELL. SO, UH, I MEAN IT'S, IT'S A MATTER OF, UH, WHAT YOU, WHAT YOU WISH TO DO. I, MY ONLY CONCERN IS WE'RE GOING TO THE STATE AND TO, UH, ASKING THEM TO HELP US PARTNER WITH THEM, UH, ON SOME ROADS IN, IN OUR COUNTY. AND WE'VE SHOWN THAT OUR VOTERS HAVE SHOWN WITH A 66% APPROVAL RATE, UH, THAT THEY WILL PAY FOR ROADS. AND, UH, UH, THIS THING MAY NOT PASS. UH, I DON'T KNOW, I GUESS WE'LL KNOW HERE IN ANOTHER COUPLE OF WEEKS, BUT, UH, IT JUST APPEARS THAT, UH, IF WE DO NOT APPROVE IT, IT NOT, I DUNNO THAT, YOU KNOW, IT WOULD MAKE ANY DIFFERENCE OR NOT, BUT I'D RATHER, UH, PERSONALLY AND EVERYBODY'S GONNA HAVE TO KNOW WHAT THEY THINK. IT'S JUST, I'D RATHER SEE THEM TO SHOWING OUR SUPPORT THAN NONSUPPORT WHEN WE'RE GOING TO BE GOING TO THEM WITH OUR HANDOUT HERE PRETTY QUICK, ASKING FOR SUPPORT OR IF IT DOES PASS BY THE VOTER AND THEN WE DON'T SIGN THIS AND SEND IT IN. I WOULD CERTAINLY BE REMISS TO SAY THAT, UH, I WOULDN'T BE ANGRY IF THAT MONEY WENT TO SOMEWHERE ELSE. SOMEBODY, SOME COUNTY WHO DID VOTE FOR INSTEAD OF COUNTY DOES BECAUSE WE WE'RE IN DIRE NEED OF IT. SO WHAT'S YOUR, UH, I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT, UH, WE SHOW SUPPORT FOR THE PROPOSITION ONE CONSTITUTIONAL MEMBER FOR THE STATE HIGHWAY FUND. SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION FOR FISHER CLARK AND A SECOND, UH, FROM COMMISSIONER MANNY, UH, TO PASS THE, UH, RESOLUTION AS PRESENTED AS YOU HAVE A COPY OF. UH, ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. A THOSE OPPOSED, SO THAT Y'ALL VOTE. I'D SAY OPPOSED. OKAY. OPPOSED? OPPOSED. UH, I'LL BREAK THE TIE. GO BY. SO, OKAY. SO WAS IT A TWO OR TWO? NO, IT'S A THREE TUBE. THREE. YOU GOT ONE JUST TO SIGN? YEAH. I'VE GOT NEXT ITEM I GET BACK TO THE AGENDA HERE IS, UH, TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER APPROVING A PRELIMINARY FLAT FOR UTOPIA RANCH COFFEE COUNTY PRECINCT ONE. AND PLEASE HAVE YOU BACK WITH US AGAIN TODAY. THANK YOU. YOU'D LIKE TO COMMISSIONER, I THINK THIS IS IN YOUR, YES, SIR. [01:05:01] I THINK MR. LANE HAS MET ALL THE REQUIREMENTS THAT, UH, WE HAVE ON THE CHECKLIST AND HE PRESENTED THE PRELIMINARY PLAT, UH, OUR VIEWING AND IT'S BEEN THE REQUIRED NUMBER OF DAYS. AND I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE, UH, APPROVE THE PRELIMINARY FLAT FOR UTOPIA RANGE. OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION FOR ROSA. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. COMMISSIONER MANNING SECOND MOTION. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. THOSE OPPOSED. ITEM NUMBER 13 IS TO DISCUSS, CONSIDER APPROVING A PRELIMINARY FLAT FOR RANCH KIN. COUNTY PRECINCT NUMBER ONE. I'M SORRY. FINAL. EXCEPT IT'S NOT. YES, THAT RIGHT. AND I DO HAVE THESE COPIES FOR YOU. THE SHAPE JUST DICTATED THAT WE HAD TO PUT THIS ON TWO PAGES AND THERE'S A BREAK LINE ON BOTH PAGES THAT YOU CAN PUT TOGETHER. YOU TOLD THAT'S A PRETTY OPTIMISTIC FOUNDING ADDITION PLAN? NO, THAT WAS PRIOR TO THE, YOU MET ALL THE REQUIREMENTS FOR OUR, FOR OUR CHECKLIST. YES. TYPICALLY THAT MOST OF THAT FALLS IN THE PRELIMINARY PLAT DISCUSSION. THIS IS MORE OF A FORMALITY OF, UH, PUTTING THESE THINGS ON FOR THE, THE FORMAT THAT'S REQUIRED. UM, I WILL BE SENDING THIS TO THE ENGINEER VIA EMAIL, UH, ONCE THE COURT HAS ACCEPTED IT. OKAY, I'LL MAKE A MOTION. WE ACCEPT. OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION, UH, FROM COMMISSIONER ROSA AND A SECOND FROM, UH, COMMISSIONER MANNING THAT WE ACCEPT THE FILE GETTING IT DOWN TO, I DON'T REMEMBER. 15 IS CONSIDER LYING ADAM TRANSFER EMAILED PREVIOUSLY. TALK WITH US ABOUT THAT. GOOD MORNING. GOOD MORNING. YOU NOTICE I PUT ON YOUR TABLE SOME HARD COPIES OF THE LINE ITEM TRANSFERS FROM 2014. YOU ALSO LOOK, I DID YOU A FINANCIAL STATEMENT FOR THE GENERAL FUND, YOUR ROAD AND BRIDGE, YOUR BOND ISSUE AND YOUR CTS. AND, UH, IF NO BIG ADDITIONAL BILLS, WE'LL BE COMING IN OUTTA THE GENERAL FUND IN THE NEXT 30 DAYS. WE LOOK LIKE WE'LL BE ADDING A, A GOOD BALANCE FUND BALANCE. GOOD MORE TO IT. SO I WANTED Y'ALL TO BE AWARE OF THAT. I'M A LITTLE WORRIED ABOUT THAT FOR A WHILE. YOU KNOW, WORSE. SO EVIDENTLY WE HAD SOME ADDITIONAL REVENUE AND SOME ADDITIONAL ADDITIONAL REVENUES THAT CAME IN AND CUTTING BACK. THAT'S, THAT'S GREAT. IT'S GONNA BE A, GONNA START DOING THIS ALL THE TIME. I LIKE THAT. WHAT DO YOU MEAN, SIR? GIVE THIS OH, THIS ONE I DO THIS ONE TIME A YEAR. OKAY. THE REASON WHY EVERYBODY, NO, THE REASON WHY IS THIS IS TO CLEAN UP WHEN I DO THE, THE ACCRUAL FOR PAYROLL. OKAY. BECAUSE AT THE END OF SEPTEMBER, WHEN YOU GOT PAID IN OCTOBER, IT HAD SEVEN DAYS OF SEPTEMBER THAT YOUR PEOPLE ACTUALLY WORKED. [01:10:01] I HAD TO CHARGE 70%. SO THAT KIND OF MAKES SOME OF YOUR LINE ITEMS GO OVER AND I HAVE TO COVER THOSE LINE ITEMS. THE REASON I'M CUTTING THE REVENUES DOWN IS BECAUSE, UM, WE CAME OUT PRETTY, PRETTY GOOD ON IT AND I WANTED TO KIND OF CLEAN, CLEAN IT UP SO IT WOULD LOOK MORE REASONABLE OF WHY WE BUDGETED WHAT WE DID AND WHY WE COLLECTED WHAT WE DID. BUT AS OF, UH, THE END OF THE YEAR, OF COURSE YOU STILL MAY HAVE A FEW BILL. OH, I, I DO. YEAH. I HAVE A LOT OF, SOME ENCUMBRANCES THAT WE'RE WORKING ON TRYING TO OUR REVENUE GOING AND YOU PROBABLY HAVE SOME REVENUE BILL WILL BE POSTED BACK, GONNA BE 30 3003 78 ON THE REVENUE SIDE AND EXPENSES IS 30 2005 89. YES SIR. THAT'S GOOD. ALRIGHT. UM, SALES TAX, I MEAN NOT SALES TAX, BUT YOU MIXED BEVERAGE. THAT WAS ONLY THREE QUARTERS. WE JUST GOT ALMOST ANOTHER $30,000, UH, DEPOSIT IN THAT ACCOUNT. SO THAT'S HELPED. DID WE GET THE MONEY YET ON THE, UH, TOBACCO LAWSUIT? I THINK THAT'S THE 14 OR 15,000 THAT WE GOT. OKAY. THERE MIGHT BE ANOTHER PAYMENT COMING IN. I'M NOT REAL SURE. I LOOKED THE OTHER DAY THAT SENT, UH, SENT SOME INFORMATION. I CAN'T REMEMBER WHAT REVIEW IN THE PAGE. ALRIGHT. BUT YOUR GENERAL FUND REVENUES RIGHT NOW ARE SITTING AT 97% COLLECTION AND YOU HAVE, UH, 95% EXPENDITURE RATE. SO, SO FAR THAT'S LOOKING PRETTY POSITIVE AND ADDING TO THE FUND BALANCE. AND THAT'S JUST IN THE GENERAL FUND. UH, YOUR ROAD AND BRIDGE WE CALL, UH, TRANSFERS. YOUR MAIN ROAD BRIDGE WE COLLECTED OVER A HUNDRED PERCENT, BUT WE ALSO TRANSFERRED OVER A HUNDRED PERCENT TO YOU. YOUR REGULAR TRANSFERS AND REVENUES THAT YOU GET IN YOUR INDIVIDUAL ROAD AND BRIDGE OR 85% AND YOU SPENT 78%. THE ROAD BOND CONSTRUCTION YOU CREATE, YOU, UH, COLLECTED OVER A HUNDRED PERCENT DUE TO THE INTEREST AND YOU'VE ONLY SPENT 9% OF THAT MONEY AND UNDER C CHARTS. UM, WE'VE GOTTEN THE $4,500 BACK, IF YOU'LL LOOK UNDER THE TECH SCOTT DO GRANT PROCEEDS AND, UH, WE UH, SPENT THAT AS ADMINISTRATIVE. SO WE HADN'T REALLY SPENT A LOT OF MONEY OUT THERE. YEAH, WE'VE SUBMITTED, UH, I BELIEVE LAST WEEK THE PROJECT YOU DID. SO THE FIRST ONE, AND I THINK THE TURNAROUND'S SUPPOSED TO BE ABOUT TWO WEEKS. SO WE'RE GONNA, WE DID EVERYTHING RIGHT. SO HOPEFULLY I THINK WE'RE GOOD. I'M SURE ANGIE DID EVERYTHING RIGHT HERE. NOT RAY, YOU DONE YOUR I, I MEAN APAC. APAC. WELL, THEY MAY BE GOOD NEXT WEEK. 10 DAYS SUPPOSED TO BE RAINING ALMOST ALL NEXT WEEK, SO. OKAY. DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? OVER 2014 ADJUSTMENTS THAT I DID AND THE FINANCIALS, I'M DELIGHTED ABOUT THE ESTIMATE ON THE FUND BALANCE. THANK YOU. EVERYBODY IS, I KNOW EVERYBODY WORKED TOGETHER. YES THEY DID. I'M, I'M DELIGHTED ABOUT THAT. I REALLY CONCERNED THAT, YOU KNOW, FOR A WHILE, BUT HOPE THIS HOLDS TRUE. YES, SIR. UH, YOU KNOW, WE'RE DAILY WORKING DAILY, UH, MR. COUNTRYMEN'S OFFICE IS WORKING WITH US TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ACCRUING OUR REVENUES LIKE WE SHOULD. THERE'S A COUPLE ADJUSTMENTS THAT WE'RE HAVING TO MAKE, NOT DUE TO THEIR FAULT, BUT WE'RE MAKING THEM RECORD IT AS A RECEIVABLE AND THEN WE'RE HAVING TO GO IN AND MAKE THE ADJUSTMENT TO SHOW THAT IT WAS ACTUAL LAST YEAR'S REVENUE. SO THAT TAKES A LITTLE WHILE TO CLEAN UP. RIGHT. AND GET IT. SO YOU'RE GONNA GET ANOTHER REPORT OR TWO JUST ON SEPTEMBER TO LET YOU KNOW WHERE WE'RE SITTING. AND I GUESS THE OTHER THING THAT COULD AFFECT THIS TOO, AND I KNOW WE'VE GOT THIS IN A SEPARATE FRONT, IS, UH, I KNOW WE'VE JUST SENT IN A REIMBURSEMENT TO THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE, $400,000, UH, REIMBURSEMENT TO THE, UH, THE MURDER CASE, THE PROSECUTION PART OF IT, UH, WITH, THEY'D ASKED US TO SEND IT IN INFAMOUS OF HUNDRED THOUSAND. SO WE JUST LAST WEEK SENT THAT IN TOO. I WAS UNDER ASSUMPTION THAT WAS WITH, UH, TIDC. WELL, TIDC. ANYTHING TO THEM? YEAH. WELL WE DID SEND HER THE INFORMATION TO POLICE FILE IT 'CAUSE WE'RE AT 117,000 EXPENDITURES. OKAY, WELL MAYBE THAT'S WHY IT WENT. MAYBE THAT'S WHAT IT WAS. I'LL DOUBLE CHECK ON THAT. YEAH, THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT IT WAS, UH, [01:15:01] ON THOSE THREE DIFFERENT CASES. RIGHT. WE CAN GET UP TO A CERTAIN AMOUNT FROM, UM, THE COMMISSION THERE IN TEXAS THAT WE HAVE TO GET OVER A HUNDRED THOUSAND BEFORE WE CAN ASK FOR IT. AND OVER 2013, 2014 IN COURT OF THE PAYMENT THIS MONTH GOT US OVER A HUNDRED THOUSAND ON JUST ONE OF THOSE CASES. NOTICE ANOTHER MURDER THIS LAST FEW DAYS. I HAVE A BUDGET AMENDMENT THAT IS FOUR 2015 AND IT'S A, A NEW GRANT, UH, ABOUT A $68,500 GRANT. AND IT'S FOR THE 422ND DIVISION DIVERSION COURT. IT'S, UH, UH, AN ENHANCEMENT GRANT, UH, THAT PAM AND, UH, THE DISTRICT JUDGE, UH, CHI WORKED ON AND SUBMITTED AND GOT IT APPROVED. THEN THE OTHER LINE ITEM TRANSFER IS FOR ADULT PROBATION. AND THAT'S ALL STATEMENT THEY NEEDED SOME NEW COMPUTERS. THOSE WERE KIND OF OLD AND NOT WORKING VERY GOOD. SO, UH, MR. DANIELS GOT IT APPROVED TO THE STATE TO MOVE SOME MONEY TO PAY FOR THEIR NEW COMPUTERS. ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? DO YOU UNDERSTAND ALL THE TRANSFERS AND WHY I HAD TO DO IT THE WAY I DID IT? I LOOKED OVER 'EM THIS WEEKEND PARTICULARLY ON THIS LONG LIST AND THEY ALL MADE, WELL, GENERAL FUNDS THE BASE, SO THAT'S ALL YOU KNOW. THAT'S UNDERSTANDABLE. WHAT'S INTERESTING ABOUT THIS IS, IS THAT IN COUNTY GOVERNMENT WE CAN'T DO IT UNTIL TOWARDS THE END OF THE POST YEAR. WE COULD DO IT IF WE HAD AN EVENING THAT, UM, SOMEBODY THAT COLLECTS A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF REVENUES CAN'T. WE CAN ALWAYS LOWER IT AND THEN, BUT WE HAVE TO LOWER AN EXPENDITURE WHEN WE DO IT. IT HAS TO BALANCE. YEAH. AND THE SCHOOL BUSINESS, WE COULD AMEND IT EVERY MONTH IF WE NEED TO. EVERY TWO WEEKS. WE HAVE MEETINGS TWO TIMES A MONTH CARRYING THIS, UH, SALE OF LAND ITEM, LINE ITEM AT 899,000. MM-HMM . WE, IT SAYS DECREASE. SO WE, WE USE THAT. THAT'S BECAUSE IT'S A REVENUE, IT'S AN OPPOSITE. IT'S AN OPPOSITE SIGN TO MAKE IT VALID. THAT'S IN THE REVENUE SIDE. I'M NOT SURE I UNDERSTAND THAT. OKAY. DID, DID WE NOT, I MEAN, ARE WE USING THIS TO OFFSET OUR, OUR OUR INCREASES? DID WE DECREASE THIS FUND? NO, I'M INCREASING THE REVENUE SIDE TO SHOW THAT I COLLECTED THAT. 899. OH, OKAY. YES SIR. NO I DIDN'T. THAT MONEY IS SET IN A SEPARATE TEXTBOOK ACCOUNT. WELL, I THOUGHT IT WAS MM-HMM . AND JOHNNY'S I THINK SAID WELL AGO THAT THAT MONEY IS, HAS NOT BEEN USED. WELL THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT. I HEARD YOU SAY IT'S ACTUALLY A PART OF THE GENERAL FUND, BUT IT SEPARATE ACCOUNT SOMETHING THAT WAS NEVER REPORTED TO Y'ALL BEFORE. YOU KNEW WHAT WAS INVESTED, BUT YOU NEVER KNEW THE EARNINGS. NOW THE TREASURER'S OFFICE MONTHLY SENDS US ALL THEIR BANK STATEMENTS, WHICH WE WERE ALREADY GETTING, BUT NOW WE GET THEIR TEXTBOOK STATEMENTS SO THAT INTEREST IS BEING BOOKED AS IT SHOULD BE EVERY MONTH. SO THAT'S WHY YOUR INTEREST IS SHOWING SO MUCH HIGHER AT THIS TIME IN YOUR FINAL BOOKS FOR THAT YEAR. AND IF WE DID RUN INTO A, UH, SHORTFALL BECAUSE OF THE TAXES, THAT'S MONEY WE COULD LOAN OUT OF THAT FUND RATHER THAN BORROW BANK, YOU KNOW, PAY OURSELVES BACK WHEN THE TAXES COME IN. SO THAT'S THE PART I WANT SEE IS TO CONTINUE TO INCREASE MR. STRAIN. DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? NO. OKAY. ALRIGHT. WE GOT, ALL RIGHT. UH, HAVE A MOTION TO, UH, CONSIDER AND ACCEPT THE LINE ITEM TRANSFERS ON ITEM NUMBER 15. SO MR. MANNING MAKES THAT MOTION. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND, MR. SHANE SECONDS. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. THEN THE NEXT ITEM NUMBER 16 IS TO DISCUSS CLAIM FOR PAYMENT BILL. I HOPE Y'ALL GOT ALL THE COPIES OF YOUR BILLS WITH THIS MOVING AND GETTING COMPUTERS HOOKED UP OUR BILLS AMOUNT TO $512,155 14 CENTS. $512,155 AND 14 CENTS. GOOD. THANK 2 MILLION HALF LAST TIME. IT'S PRETTY CHEAP. I'M GONNA PASS THESE TWO Y'ALL. YOU GOTTA, YOU GOTTA REALIZE THAT OUR BLUE CROSS BLUE SHIELD RUNS US ALMOST $400 A MONTH. OKAY. SOME OF THAT IS [01:20:01] PAID BY THE EMPLOYEE FOR THEIR, FOR THEIR FAMILIES. MOST OF THAT ABOUT 360. WE HAVE TO, SO THAT'S WHY WE HAVE TO PAY THOSE CONTRACTS FOR SOFTWARE MAINTENANCE THAT WE AND PAYMENT ON 14. THAT'S WHY THAT IS SO HIGH. THESE WERE PUT IN COMMERCIAL SHANES BILLS. CAN I JUST PUT 'EM RIGHT IN HERE? MM-HMM . ON THE WHATEVER. I YEAH, I'D HAVE TO, I'D HAVE TO. OKAY. BECAUSE, UM, YOU KNOW, WE PAID FOR SOME OF THAT STUFF AND THEN THOSE CHECKS GOT LOST TO VOID THEM, REWRITE THEM. GIVE YOU A GOOD BALANCE ON IT. I, I THINK, UH, THE JUDGE HAD ALREADY EMAILED THEN HE, TO GET BALANCE. THAT MAY BE WHERE WE HAVE TO PUT, I WAS ON THE SHEET ON PAGE THREE. IT WAS ON TEXT SOMETHING. YEAH, I GOT A CALL ON THURSDAY PRINTER. I CALLED ON THURSDAY. I MEET THE UP PRETTY GOOD AS TO WHAT THE PROBLEM WAS. THAT WAS AFTER OCTOBER AND AFTER I BEAT HIM UP THAT I, THEY DON'T DAYS PRIOR THAT THE PROBLEM WAS WITH THE FONT ON THE, UH, STATEMENT DIDN'T LIKE THE SIZE OF THE PRINT. I WANNA CLARIFY BEEN THE PROBLEM ON OUR END. THEY DIDN'T LIKE THE FONT. WE DIDN'T, WE DIDN'T LIKE THE SIZE OF THE PRINT. BUT WHEN I, WHAT I WAS CALLED, IT WAS 30, IT WAS ALREADY AFTER OCTOBER ONE. IN FACT, I HAD ALREADY RECEIVED IN THE MAIL SOME HENDERSON COUNTY PROPERTY STATEMENTS. SO WHEN I CALLED THURSDAY AND, AND BEAT HIM UP PRETTY GOOD AND I SAID, WE'RE GONNA GO SOMEWHERE ELSE. WE DIDN'T GET IT ALL. AND THEN AFTER I DID THAT, I LEARNED THAT WE, THAT THEY HAD ONLY GOT THE DATA TWO DAYS PRIOR TO THAT. SO THANK YOU. YOU SHOULD COME OUTTA YOUR BUDGET FOR NOT ROAD BRIDGE THAT COME OUT. THAT DID COME OUTTA TRAINING. THEY COME OUTTA COMMISSIONER COURT. . YEAH. YEAH. BUT THEN THE BUDGET FOR THAT FOR THINGS THAT ARE NOT ROAD BRIDGE. OH, OKAY. SO YOU REPRESENTED COUNTY THAT, THAT WAS FOR CONFERENCE, RIGHT? IT WASN'T, WASN'T ANYTHING BRIDGE, IT WAS ALL THAT OTHER, ALL ALL THAT OTHER STUFF GOES THERE. SO, AND THAT'S KIND OF WHAT THAT IS SET UP TO BE. WE, WE'VE ALL GOT SOME AMOUNT IN THERE THAT'S NOT, AND IF YOU HAVE SOMETHING THAT'S NOT BRIDGE, YOU CAN CHARGE IT TO THAT. OKAY. APEX ELECTRICAL. MM-HMM . THAT IS IN THE, UH, JAIL. UH, 33 0 7. IT'S ON THEIR JAIL EXPENSE. WELL THIS, THIS WOULD BE, THIS WOULD BE OUR CONTRACTOR. YEAH. OUR CONTRACTOR FIXED. IT WASN'T REALLY WELL THEY PULLED A METER BASE OUT OF THE SHOP. OH, OKAY. AND WE HAD, WE HAD TO FIX THAT BEFORE ON YEAH. THEIR INSURANCE IS GONNA REIMBURSE. BUT IT WASN'T THOUSAND [01:25:01] 12. YEAH. THIS WAS AT, THIS IS UNDER THE JAILS HEADING. UH, YOU KNOW, ANYTHING YOU LOOKING KAREN? I NEED TO KNOW WHAT DATE IT WAS PAID. 10 27TH SAND TRAP. WHAT VENDOR NUMBER IS IT? UH, LET'S SEE. INVOICE 39. 7 35. JUDGE, SHOULD I SIGN THIS TO VOTE AGAINST THIS OR, UH, COULD ABSTAIN? WELL YOU DON'T, YEAH, YOU CAN PUT, YOU DON'T, YOU DON'T HAVE TO SIGN IT FOR 33 0 7. I CAN SIGN IT EVEN THOUGH I VOTED AGAINST HIM. WELL YOU COULD UH, DON'T VOTE IT THOUGH. YOU DIDN'T ABSTAIN. RIGHT. SO WE CAN UH, DID YOU SIGN IT? YEAH, WE COULD EITHER JUST LEAVE A PLANK OR PUT ON THERE OR WE CAN JUST DO ANOTHER ONE AND JUST NOT HAVE Y'ALL SIGN IT OR JUST LEAVE YOUR NAMES OFF. THERE WAS A PURCHASE ORDER ISSUED. THIS WAS FOR THE, UM, THAT TO REPLACE THE BROKEN UNDERGROUND CONDUIT, UH, PHOTO SALE. HOLD ON. THAT'S WHERE THEY BOOK THEM. WHO BROKE IT? HUH? I WONDER WHAT BROKE IT? I HAVE NO IDEA, SIR. THAT'S BEEN AN ONGOING ISSUE. THAT'S BEEN AN ONGOING ISSUE OUT THERE SINCE THE DAY WE MOVED IN. THE PROBLEM IS THE GROUND SETTLES AND THERE'S CONDUIT. IT ACTUALLY GOES BACK TO THE DAY WE POUR THE CON CONCRETE. WHEN WE BUILT THAT THING, ALL THE CONDUIT FOR THE DATA. IN FACT WHEN WE FLOATED THAT CONCRETE ACTUALLY SPLIT AND THEY HAD A GO AND GO AHEAD WITH THE BUDGET. BUT THIS IN PARTICULAR IS JUST MORE OF THE SAME. THE GROUND IS SHIFTING. THE GROUND'S UNDERGROUND. IT'S BEEN GOING ON. BEEN AN ONGOING ISSUE FOR YOU SINCE WE OPENED. I WAS WONDERING MAYBE SOMEBODY DAVID IT UP, YOU KNOW. NO, NO LADDER. THERE'S SOMETHING, I KNOW THERE'S, THERE'S ONE OR TWO ISSUES THAT LAURIE IS WORKING ON WITH, UH, OUR INSURANCE COMPANY BE REIMBURSED FOR. THEY MIGHT REIMBURSE OR SOME, SOMETHING LIKE THAT BECAUSE THAT HAD TO DO WITH THE STRUCTURAL YEAH. FOUNDATION. BUT THE DEDUCTIBLES 5,000, SO YEAH. YOU KNOW. YEAH. IS THAT YEARLY OR PER INCIDENT? PER INCIDENT. THAT FIGURE SOMETIMES THAT'S IT. THAT'S THAT NINE SEVEN THERE. YEAH. OH, OH, WRECK. YEAH. SO THAT, THAT'S WHY IT TOOK, IT WAS A MURDER WAS A MURDER DEAL. THAT'S WHY, THAT'S WHY DOLLAR BANKS THAT COMMIT REDUCTION, COMMITMENT REDUCTION, UH, THAT IS UH, UM, HOLD ON. COMMISSIONER CAN SEE IT RIGHT UP HERE ON 72. YEAH. THAT HAS TO DO WITH, UH, PROBATION. WHAT, WHAT OCCURRED THERE? WHAT, LEMME LOOK REAL QUICK. THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS I DON'T UNDERSTAND. THIS HAD TO, THIS HAD TO DO WITH THE SERVICES. THERE'RE UM, JUVENILE PROBATION. THERE ARE AGREEMENT FOR OUR BEDS. SO WE'VE GOT PEOPLE IN HAYES COUNTY. WE, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S IN HAYES COUNTY OR WHAT, BUT WE HAVE A A, IT'S A, A BILL, IT'S $140 A DAY. SO IT'S 30 DAYS. UH, LAURA PEACE HAYES COUNTY AROUND THE COUNTY. HAYES HAYES SAYS HAY SENT ME, JUVENILE SAYS LAURA, WELL IT'S COUNTY CALLED AND JUVENILE LAURA PEACE, SAN MARCUS, TEXAS. I DIDN'T YOU WANT ME TO CALL AND ASK HER ABOUT IT? YEAH, BECAUSE YOU KNOW, WE, WE DO HAVE FIVE BEDS [01:30:01] UP THERE, YOU KNOW, FOR HUNT COUNTY, FOR HUNT COUNTY, BUT THEN WE MAY HAVE SOMETHING WITH IT. UH, WE HAD SOMEBODY THERE FOR 30 DAYS, JUST SAYS SERVICES FOR SEPTEMBER, 2014. I DON'T KNOW WHO IT WAS OR WHAT IT WAS. I JUST KNOW SHE SENT IT OVER HERE AND SIGNED FOR IT AND CODED IT. SO LET ME, LET ME FIND OUT. I'LL SEND Y'ALL AN EMAIL I FIND AND LET YOU KNOW WHAT IT WAS. THOUSAND 408. NO PROBLEM. GET MY PAPERWORK. WORRIED ABOUT THAT. THE COUNTY PROPERTY NOT WORKING FRIDAY. I DON'T KNOW. I COULDN'T BE ANYBODY OVER THERE. OH, THEY CHANGED OUR EXTENSIONS, I THINK. OH, CHANGED YOUR EXTENSION. YEAH. WELL, DON'T TELL ANYBODY THAT. WE CAN'T CALL YOU. RIGHT. WE HAD TO GO, WE HAD TO GO 9 7 2 BACK TO 9 7 2 NUMBERS. THAT'S WHY. WELL, I DID THE 9 7 2 9 3, 2 OLD FOUR, WHATEVER IT IS NOW. OH 2 4 0 2 4. I COULDN'T GET KI COULDN'T GET JACK. I COULDN'T GET FRIDAY. AND THEY WERE JUST RINGING, RINGING, RINGING. IT, IT WASN'T GO A HORSE OR ANYTHING. SO I SAID THE BOATS ARE MESSED UP. MIGHT BEEN, WELL THAT'S I ABOUT THIS, THIS DEAL HERE. NOW THEY HAD TO COME BACK AND PICK UP FAX NUMBER. ARE YOU GONNA GET SOMEBODY THAT'S GONNA CLEAN THAT UPSTAIRS? WE HAVE TRASH EVERYWHERE. CARPETS NEED TO BE VACUUM. WE HAVE NO TOILET TISSUE. IT'S BAD. OKAY. I'LL UH, SEE THE SCHEDULE HAS BEEN CHANGED FROM THE TWO PEOPLE THAT ARE OVER AND, UH, OF COURSE, UH, ONE LADY QUIT. UH, YEAH, I UNDERSTAND. BUT WE'VE GOT A SUBSTITUTE UNTIL WE HIRE SOMEBODY PERMANENTLY. OKAY. BUT I DIDN'T REALIZE THAT THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO START OVER LAST WEEK, BUT I DIDN'T REALIZE THEY HAD CLEAN. SO I KNOW WHY THEY CLEANED THE, WERE THEY RESPONS? DID THEY DO A FINAL, DID THE CONTRACTOR DO A FINAL THING YET? I'M NOT SURE. DO YOU IF ED WILSON HAS DONE A FINAL CLEAN ON THE UH, I THINK, I THINK THEY DID. I, I'LL CHECK. THANK YOU SO MUCH THEN. UM, RIGHT AT THE BACK THEN FUND 72, IS THAT WHAT YOU WERE FOR KENNETH JOHN'S GONNA BE SHOW WE BOOKED IT. YEAH. TECHNIC CATER DESIGNS FOR 44 4,000. $4,400 MILLION. LEMME SEE THAT. I THINK THAT WAS UH, IS THIS COUNTY RECORDS BUILDING ON, IS THAT THE OLD LIBRARY? YES, THAT'S THE, THE ROOFING THAT WE HAD TO DO OVER THERE TO KEEP THE MOISTURE FROM MOVING INTO THE BUILDING ON THE SIDE OF THE, ALONG THE SIDE OF THE BUILDING. OH, THAT'S THE PHONE. YEAH. YEAH, THAT WAS THE PHONE. WE WERE HAVING WATER, GETTING WATER COMING THROUGH THE, THE WALL. THE WALL AND WINDOW. THAT'S 40. THAT'S THE, THAT'S THE STREET. IS IT COUNTY'S PORTION UP? OH, IT'S AT THE BACK OF THE COURTHOUSE THERE BY THE ROOM. OH, IT IS THE LIBRARY THERE. OH, OKAY. LET'S WHAT I SAYING, YOU SAID I WAS TRYING TO PUT IT ON THE ANNEX BUILDING, BUT WATER WAS GETTING THROUGH THAT WALL AND THROUGH THAT WINDOW THAT WAS POUR UP, IT WENT DOWN BOTH BUILDINGS. OKAY. THEN THERE'S ONE THAT HAD MANUAL CHECKS ON IT THAT Y'ALL . SHE'S DEKIN. YOU ALWAYS GET, THAT'S WHY I DIDN'T GET IT. I HADN'T, THIS IS, THIS IS MINE. YOU HAD IT JUST WHILE AGO THOUGH. IT SENT ME CHECKS ON IT. I SAW IT. THAT'S NOT IT. THIS IS YOURS BECAUSE I DIDN'T CHECK THOSE ALL. THERE WAS ONE THAT WAS RIGHT. OH, I PASSED DOWN WRONG. I DON'T HAVE IT. SEE, I DON'T HAVE IT THERE. IT'S RIGHT THERE. YOU HAVE TO START PUTTING YOUR NAME. I'LL SCAR OR SOMETHING. YOU'VE GOT THIS ONE RIGHT? MINE. YOU GOT YOURS. THAT'S, LEMME CHECK THAT AND I'LL CHECK IT. CHECKED OFF TO SIGN OFF. [01:35:02] SURE. NO, THAT'S YOURS. I THOUGHT IT WAS, IT SERVES THE PUBLIC PURPOSE PER INTERPRETATION. INTERPRETATION. BUT IT TAKES THE COURT FINDING TO DETERMINE IF BE, SERVE OTHER PURPOSE. SEND A MESSAGE TO MOTION. YOU GOT MOTION. PAY THE BILLS. COMMISSIONER SHANE AND A SECOND COMMISSIONER MANNING. DO WE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. THOSE OPPOSED AND MOTION TO ADJOURN. MOTION FROM SECOND. SECOND. I'LL SEND A REMINDER OF HAVING A BIG, THEY'RE. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.