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TO, UH, THIS MONDAY, DECEMBER, THE 22ND MEETING OF THE KAUFMAN COUNTY COMMISSIONER'S COURT.
UH, WE'RE PLEASED TO HAVE YOU THIS MORNING.
UH, IF YOU ARE, UH, NEEDING TO ADDRESS THE COURT, UH, FOR AN ITEM THAT IS NOT ON THE AGENDA, UH, WE DO HAVE A THREE MINUTE, UH, TIME PRESENTATION THAT YOU'LL ALLOW TO, UH, PRESENT INFORMATION TO THE COURT AT THE BEGINNING OF THE MEETING.
THAT WILL BE, UH, RIGHT, UH, WHENEVER, UH, TALKS ABOUT REMARKS FROM VISITORS, UH, THE COURT, IF IT'S NOT ON THE AGENDA, WILL NOT BE ABLE TO RESPOND.
UH, IF YOU'RE HERE FOR SOME OTHER REASON THAT'S LISTED ON THE AGENDA, THEN THAT WOULD BE THE APPROPRIATE TIME FOR YOU TO, UH, COME FORWARD.
SO, AGAIN, WE WELCOME YOU THIS MORNING, UH, TO OUR MEETING, AND WE'LL BEGIN THIS MORNING WITH AN INVITATION BY COMMISSIONER MANNING, AND THEN WE'LL HAVE ALLEGIANCE.
FATHER, WE COME TO YOU DURING THIS CHRISTMAS SEASON.
LEMME ASK YOU FOR, FOR GUIDANCE FOR ALL OF US.
WE, UH, WE WOULD ASK THAT, THAT YOU SEND YOUR BLESSINGS UPON US AND ALL THE EMPLOYEES OF THE COUNTY.
WE THANK YOU, LORD, FOR THE OPPORTUNITIES TO SERVE THIS COUNTY, TO DO THE BEST WE CAN FOR OUR PEOPLE.
PROTECT OUR FIRST RESPONDERS, LORD, AS THEY WORK THROUGH THIS HOLIDAY SEASON, KEEP ALL OUR RESIDENTS SAFE AND GIVE US THE GUIDANCE TO US TO DO.
I ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO REPUBLIC FOR WHICH STANDS, ONE NATION ON EVERYBODY INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE, FOR HONOR TO BE ONE SECOND UNDER GOD, ONE IN ALL RIGHT, THE, UH, FIRST ITEM, UH, WE HAVE ON THE AGENDA IS REMARKS FROM DISTRICTS.
AND OUR, UH, FIRE MARSHAL IS HERE SERVING AS MAIL THIS MORNING, I GUESS FOR US.
UH, WE HAVE A NUMBER OF, UH, FOLKS THAT ARE, UH, WISHING TO, UH, SPEAK TO THE COURT.
I BELIEVE SOME OF THESE, UH, HAVE TO DO WITH, UH, AN ITEM ON THE, UH, COURT, UH, OR ON THE AGENDA LATER.
AND SO THOSE OF YOU THAT HAVE, UH, UH, INDICATED YOU WISH TO SPEAK LATER IN THE COURT TO A SPECIFIC ITEM, WE WOULD CALL ON YOU TO DO SO, UH, LATER.
AND, UH, THE NEXT, UH, I BELIEVE ITEM, UH, THAT WE HAVE THAT IS NOT LISTED ON THE AGENDA IS FROM CHUCK SHEPHERD, UH, FROM ELMO COUNTY ROAD, THREE 30, UH, THREE 13.
AND, UH, MS. SHE, IF YOU'LL COME FORWARD AND ADDRESS THE COURT HERE, AND, UH, AND WE HAVE SEVERAL OTHERS THAT ARE HERE ON THE COUNTY ROAD 3 46.
IT IS AN EASY THING TO TALK ABOUT SOMETHING TRYING TO DESCRIBE SOMETHING AND DESCRIBE IT IN MY OWN EYES, AND I MAY NOT TELL IT THE WAY IT SHOULD BE OR THE WAY YOU CAN'T SEE IT IF I'M TALKING.
SO WHAT I'VE SAID TO DO THAT, I WAS GONNA TAKE SOME PICTURES OF WHAT I'M GONNA TALK ABOUT.
AND EACH ONE OF THESE IS A PICTURE OF COUNTY ROAD THREE 13 DIFFERENT SPOTS, DIFFERENT PLACES AND EVERYTHING.
EACH ONE OF YOU GOT 'EM IN THE A THIS ROAD IS A 9-YEAR-OLD ROAD.
IT'S BUILT THE SECOND YEAR OF KIM'S FIRST TERM, NO, THIRD YEAR, THE LAST YEAR OF MY TERM, THE LAST YEAR OF HIS TERM.
THEY HAD IT FOR FOUR YEARS AND KIM'S HAD IT FOR THE LAST TWO YEARS GOING.
THE FIRST PICTURE IS THE CORNER THERE.
YOU CAN TELL HOW FAR THAT'S GONE.
THE SECOND PICTURE IS A CRACK.
THAT IS A CRACK THERE THAT IS RUNNING UP AND DOWN THE ROAD, AND YOU CAN TELL HOW WIDE THE CRACK IS.
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PART OF THE ROAD ON THE SIDE WHERE IT'S CRUMBLE.AND THE FOURTH ONE IS THE SAME THING, I'M SORRY, IS A FIRE.
AND I SATISFIED YOU LOOKED THAT THERE'S ALL KINDS OF CRACKS LIKE THAT IN THAT ROAD FROM THE BEGINNING.
PART OF THAT ROAD WAS REWORKED THIS YEAR FROM, UH, THREE 12 DOWN TO, UH, CREEK.
HE, NOW THAT CRACKS DOWN THE MIDDLE OF THE HILL.
SIMPLE MATTER OF KEEPING THIS AND TAKING CARE OF THIS ROAD.
AND THAT ROAD BUILT, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, IT'S $278,000 AND WE'RE LOSING IT.
THERE HAS BEEN SOME REPAIRS MADE ON IT IN THE PAST, BUT THESE ARE THINGS THAT ARE THERE NOW.
I DON'T KNOW OF ANYTHING THAT'S BEEN DONE ON IT IN THE LAST TWO YEARS.
SO WHAT I'M ASKING FOR IS TO NOTIFY THE COUNTY THAT WE GOT THIS COMING UP.
ANOTHER THING IS THAT THEN ONE OF OUR LAST MEETINGS, WE TALKED ABOUT HER EAST LANE PRODUCT.
THIS IS A PROPERTY THERE IN PRE COUNTRY THAT KEN OWN.
THERE'S A SOME QUESTION ABOUT WHETHER IT'S COUNTY ROAD OR NOT, AND I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT'S SOMETHING LEGAL HAVE TO BE FACT, BUT THERE'S A STATEMENT MADE ABOUT THAT YOU HAD NOT SPENT A PENNY ON THAT ROAD DOING ANYTHING.
THAT THAT ROAD HAD A COUNTY PIECE OF EQUIPMENT AND A COUNTY EMPLOYEE ON IT ONE DAY.
WHEN YOU PULLED UP, YOU, YOU WERE TURNING INTO TO CROSS THE RAILROAD TRACK.
AND I WAS SITTING ON THE STATE LANE AND WE ACTUALLY NODDED EACH OTHER IN WADE.
YOU WENT ACROSS THE RAILROAD TRACK, THE MORE WAS SITTING THERE ON 80 GOING EAST.
AND AS WE PULLED IN, WENT TO ELMO, WE, WE SAW IT GO ACROSS THE TRACK AND WE SAW THE MAN IN THEIR MOWING.
ITEM NUMBER, UH, THE NEXT ITEM ON, I BELIEVE IS ON COUNTY ROAD, UH, 3 46.
TERRY, BARBARA, MR. BARBER, IF YOU COME FORWARD, THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.
UH, I DIDN'T MAKE ENOUGH COPIES FOR EVERYBODY, BUT I GUESS Y'ALL TAKE QUICK LOOK AND PASS THAT AROUND.
THERE ARE SOME OF THE PHOTOGRAPHS OF 3 46.
UM, OF COURSE THE BIGGEST COMPLAINT, OF COURSE IS THE, UH, THE ROCK HAUL TRUCKS COMING OUTTA THE ROCK, CORY OVER THERE.
UH, WE DISCUSSED THAT BEFORE HERE IN OTHER PLACES.
UH, THE BIGGEST ISSUE, OF COURSE, IS SAFETY OUT THERE.
WE'RE HAVING A BIG CONCERN OF SAFETY.
UH, THE STRUCTURE COMING UP DOWN THERE, THREE AND FOUR MINUTE TIME IN AND OUT PASSING EACH OTHER.
UH, REGULAR VEHICLES, THEY'RE HAVING A VERY DIFFICULT TIME GETTING AROUND.
AS YOU CAN SEE BY THE PHOTOGRAPHS THERE, THE DITCHES HAVE BEEN PRETTY MUCH DESTROY, UH, FROM THE TRUCKS GETTING OVER FOR EACH OTHER, BUT THEY WON'T GET OVER FOR US FOR SOME REASON.
AND, UH, THIS MORNING, PERFECT EXAMPLE, I WAS LEAVING OUT, UH, THIS MORNING.
THE ONE WAS COMING IN RIGHT IN FRONT OF MARK FRIEDMAN'S PROPERTY THERE ON THE CORNER OF 27 28, 3 46.
I HAD TO GET OVER TO THE DITCH, AND EVEN MY TRUCK ALMOST GOT STUCK AS TALL AS IT IS BECAUSE THE DITCH IS SO DEEP, UH, WITH THE MUD AND EVERYTHING BEING SO BAD NOW, AND THEN TURN IT UP SO BAD.
UH, THE OTHER ISSUE IS THOUGH, WE, WE WERE TOLD, UH, SEVERAL MONTHS AGO THAT IMPROVEMENTS WERE GONNA BE DONE TO OUR ROAD BEFORE THEY EVEN STARTED RUNNING THOSE TRUCKS OUT THERE.
AND THERE HAVE BEEN NO IMPROVEMENTS DONE TO THAT ROAD.
AND, UH, WHAT LITTLE BIT OF DIRT HAS BEEN THROWN ON IT, UH, HAS REALLY DONE NOTHING BUT MADE THE PROBLEM WORSE.
UM, SO I'M, I'M JUST ASKING, YOU KNOW, IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT, THAT CAN BE DONE, UH, FROM COMMISSIONER SHANE OR THIS COURT AS A WHOLE, UH, TO DEAL WITH THESE PEOPLE OVER AT THEIR ROCK COURT.
NOT TO MENTION JUST THE, THE SAFETY FACTOR.
THE TRUCKS COMING AND OUT SO MANY SO FAST, NOT GIVING US ANY LEEWAY.
THE ROAD NOT BEING ABLE TO HANDLE THEM AND US.
AND, UH, AND ALSO, UH, THE CONSTANT BLASTING THE GOOD OVER THERE.
THEY'RE, UH, BLASTING DYNAMITE OVER THERE ON A REGULAR BASIS.
IT HAS CAUSED DAMAGE TO MY HOME AND OTHERS IN THE AREA.
WE'VE HAD ENGINEERS COME OUT THAT HAVE, UH, LOOKED AT THAT AND THEY SAID IT'S DEFINITELY DAMAGE FROM THE EXPLOSIONS, UH, BECAUSE THE WAY THE SHOCKWAVES MOVE OUT THROUGH THE ROCK THAT'S UNDER US FROM THAT ROCK DOOR.
UH, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IT BEFORE AND ABSOLUTELY NOTHING HAS BEEN DONE.
UH, WE FEEL LIKE THAT, UH, OUR COMMISSIONER HAS DONE NOTHING FOR US ON THAT ROAD OUT THERE.
UH, HASN'T DONE ANYTHING TO HELP US OUT.
FOR SOME REASON, UH, VAN Z COUNTY WAS ABLE TO KEEP THOSE TRUCKS FROM COMING THEIR WAY.
UH, BUT FOR SOME REASON WE CAN'T KEEP 'EM FROM COMING OUR WAY.
AND, UH, I JUST, UH, WOULD LIKE FOR SOMETHING TO BE DONE, PLEASE HELP US OUT OVER THERE.
UH, BECAUSE, UH, RIGHT NOW THERE'S, UH, UH, SEVERAL OF US, UH, THAT ARE CONSIDERING, UH, WE'VE ALREADY, OR I HAVE ANYWAY CONSULTED WITH AN ATTORNEY ABOUT OUR OPTIONS THAT WAY.
I DON'T WANT TO GO THAT ROUTE BECAUSE I THINK WE CAN GET SOMETHING WORKED OUT WITH THESE PEOPLE, UH, SOMEHOW.
BUT WE NEED HELP FROM OUR COUNTY GOVERNMENT, AND THAT'S WHAT I'M ASKING FOR THIS MORNING.
YOU, YOU SEE FROM THE PHOTOGRAPHS
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THERE, MOST OF THAT ROAD THAT I TOOK PICTURES OF GOES AROUND MY PROPERTY ON 3 46 ON THE EAST SIDE OF MY PROPERTY, AND THEN AGAIN ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF MY PROPERTY, UH, WHERE THOSE TRUCKS ARE COMING AROUND THERE.AND, UH, IF I DON'T WATCH IT IN THE MORNING, TAKING MY BOYS TO SCHOOL AND PULL 'EM OUTTA THAT GATE, I'LL GET MOWED DOWN COMING OUT THERE, SIR.
AND THEN THE MORNINGS, UH, ANY, ANYTIME OF THE DAY GOING IN AND OUT OF THERE, THEY'RE JUST CONSTANT NOW.
IT'S, IT'S GETTING PRETTY BAD.
SO I APPRECIATE ANY HELP Y'ALL CAN GET US.
NEXT IS MARK STREETMAN FROM COUNTY ROAD 3 46.
I TOO, WE ARY FOR SEEKING HELP AND ANY OF OUR NEIGHBORS.
UH, I'M, I'M THE FIRST ONE IN THE CORNER.
I SENT OUT EMAILS, UH, TO MY NEIGHBORS, SO I KNOW A LOT OF 'EM HAD KIDS GOING TO AND FROM, AND THESE TRUCKS ARE TWO WEEKS AGO IT WAS, IT WAS DUST.
AND I GOT A COUPLE OF PHOTOS FOR YOU GUYS AS WELL.
UM, IF YOU DON'T MIND TAKING A LOOK AT THESE, I, AGAIN, I'M SORRY I DIDN'T MAKE, BUT I GOT THE, THERE'S TWO PROBLEMS, OBVIOUSLY.
THESE GUYS CREATE A, IT IS A DUST STORM.
ONE OF THOSE PHOTOS OF MY GATE TO THE 35 MILE AN HOUR STOP SIGN, OR I'M SORRY, THE MILE PER HOUR, 90 FEET.
THERE'S A TRUNK IN THAT, UH, PHOTO.
I MEASURED TO THE 35 MILE AN HOUR FROM MY GATE RIGHT THERE.
AND WITHIN THAT 35 FEET, YOU CAN'T SEE THE BACK OF THAT TRUCK.
AND WHAT I'M SAYING, WHEN THEY, THEY CAN'T SEE EACH OTHER.
UH, SO AGAIN, IT'S REALLY, I THINK IT'S REALLY GONNA, SAFETY IS PARAMOUNT FOR THAT END OF IT.
UH, I DON'T THINK THE GUYS, MOST OF 'EM ARE SPEEDING.
UM, I ACTUALLY SAT OUT THERE AND WATCHED SOME OF THEM AND, UH, OUT OF THE 26 THAT CAME DOWN THERE, I THINK PROBABLY 20 OF THEM WEREN'T.
UM, PROBLEM IS THEY DON'T STOP.
NOT ONE TRUCK THAT HIT 27, 28 STOPPED.
ONE DID BECAUSE THE GARBAGE COMING, BUT THE PROBLEM HIT THE ROAD BEING TORE UP AND, AND LIKE THAT, IT, IT IS A MESS RIGHT NOW.
IT'S, UH, THERE'S A PICTURE IN THERE OF 3 49, WHICH NO TRUCKS TRAVEL ON.
CINE WENT AND TOOK A PICTURE OF THE SAME DAY I DID A MINE AND OURS IS JUST A MESS.
COMMISSIONER, I GUESS TRIED TO DO SOME, UH, SOME ROCK OUT THERE TO TRY TO HELP.
AND IT JUST MADE IT KIND OF LIKE A SIX INCHES OF SLUSH OUT THERE.
SO, UH, FROM THE SAFE END, I THINK THE COUNTY COULD KIND OF TWIST THE SCREWS DOWN A LITTLE BIT, HOPEFULLY ON THESE GUYS DOWN HERE.
GET 'EM TO, AT A MINIMUM WATER THE ROAD TO KEEP THE DUST SETTLED DOWN.
UM, ASK THEM, YOU KNOW, IS THERE A WAY TO REDUCE THE SPEED JUST A LITTLE MORE MAYBE AT THE STOP SIGN.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE CAN DO UNLESS YOU KIND OF PUT ONE OF OUR OFFICERS OUT THERE AND I DON'T THINK THAT'S GONNA HAPPEN.
SO IF YOU COULD PLEASE DO SOMETHING TO HELP US OUT, UH, THAT'S ALL WE'RE ASKING.
I MEAN, THE PIT'S IN PLACE, NOT MUCH WE'RE GONNA DO ABOUT IT.
THEY MADE COMMITMENTS, OUR COMMISSIONERS MADE COMMITMENTS, AND I TOO ATTENDED SEVERAL OF THOSE, UH, MEETINGS.
AND TODAY, SHORT OF THOSE FEW LOADS OF ROCK THAT CAME OUT, WE HAVEN'T, WE HAVEN'T DONE ANYTHING TO OUR ROAD TO HELP US OUT.
SO WE WOULD REALLY APPRECIATE IF YOU GUYS THINK ABOUT IT.
NEXT IS CORY SHILEY FROM MANTA COUNTY ROAD 38 0 4.
AND, UH, HERE TO SPEAK ABOUT THE ROCK HERE, LIKE, LIKE THE OTHER GUYS, I HAD THE SAME AGGRAVATION I'VE ATTENDED THE MEETINGS THAT WE'VE HAD IN THE PAST ABOUT THE IMPROVEMENTS WERE SUPPOSED TO BE MADE TO THIS ROAD PRIOR TO ROCK TRUCKS MOVING.
AS THE OTHER GENTLEMAN SAID, IT HASN'T HAPPENED.
I'M MORE CONCERNED WITH THE SAFETY ASPECTS.
THERE'S, THERE'S A COUPLE AREAS OF THAT.
THESE TRUCKS ARE TRAVEL AND IT'S, THAT'S CAUSING ISSUES.
OR NINE OUT 10 TIMES I I HEAD INTO TOWN OR HEAD HOME, RIGHT WHEN THEY PULL OUT OF THAT ROCK PIT, THEY'VE BEEN PARKED IT IN THE ROAD.
THAT'S WHERE THEY'VE BEEN SECURING THEIR, UM, THE TARPS.
AND YOU KNOW, I'VE CALLED MR. SHANE SEVERAL TIMES, THANK YOU FOR ANSWERING YOUR PHONE.
BUT LET'S SAY A PARKING LOT, THEY SHOULDN'T BE PARKING TO SECURE THEIR LOADS.
SCHOOL BUSES HAPPEN TO HIT THE DITCH TO GO AROUND THEM.
I MEAN, IT IS, IT'S UNCALLED FOR.
UM, THEN AFTER THEY LEAVE THAT ROCK PIT, A STOP SIGN THERE OFF OF 3 46,
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IT'S GETTING TO BE ONLY WAY YOU CAN MAKE A TURN EITHER WAY OR YOU'RE COMING OR GOING.YOU HAVE TO TAKE UP BOTH SIDES OF THE ROAD.
AND ROCK PIT TRUCKS HAVE TAKEN UP THE WHOLE ROAD.
SO IF YOU'RE A PASSER, A PASSING CAR AND YOU GET THAT STOP SIGN THE SAME TIME THEM ROCK PIT TRUCKS ARE HITTING SOMEBODY'S BACKING UP, IT JUST, YOU CANNOT MAKE THAT TURN.
UM, I'M ALSO CONCERNED WITH RIGHT THERE OFF 27, 28, THE RAILROAD TRACKS.
WE TALKED ABOUT IT IN THE MEETINGS, BUT THESE, THESE ROCK TRUCKS HANGING OVER THE RAILROAD TRACKS THAT STOP SIGN ON 80 IS GOING TO KILL SOMEBODY.
YOU KNOW, WE'RE GONNA BE NAIVE TO THINK OTHERWISE, BUT IT'S EVERY ONE, ESPECIALLY WHEN THEY'RE RUNNING TWO OR THREE TRUCKS AT A TIME.
WE DISCUSSED IT, DISCUSSED IT, BUT I JUST HAVEN'T HEARD ANY RESULTS OR ANY PLANS ON, ON AT LEAST, AT LEAST LOOKING AT IT, AT LEAST BACK TO COVERING THE ROCKS.
THESE, UH, COVERS ARE SUPPOSED TO BE COVERED AND ALL THE, ALL THE TRUCKS LEAVING BY LAW, IF I'M MISTAKEN, BUT SHOOT, I GO DOWN 27, 28 ROCKS BOUNCING.
YOU GOT A HUNDRED FEET, YOU'RE GOING TO GET A ROCK TO YOU WINDOW.
NOT ALL OF 'EM GETTING COVERED IS WHAT I'M TRYING TO TELL YOU, BUT NOBODY'S ENFORCE IT.
I JUST WANT TO MAKE MY COMPLAIN, SIR.
NEXT I BELIEVE IS ROSE MARA WHO WISHES TO SPEAK TO THE ADAM, UH, ATTORNEY, BUT LANE AND, UH, MID I JUDGE, I THINK THAT'S ON THE AGENDA TO MOVE IT DOWN SO I CAN LEAVE.
AND THEN MR. OFIELD, UH, WHO IS OVER, RONNIE OLDFIELD, WHO IS OUR COUNTY TREASURER ELECTED IS ALSO HERE TO TALK ABOUT LANE AND THE OTHERS HAVE LISTED.
YOU CAN DO THAT NOW OR YOU CAN WAIT WHENEVER YOU GET TO THAT AGENDA, WHATEVER YOU LIKE.
PROBABLY GOT A LOT OF ANSWERS TO THAT 3 46.
I SUGGEST THAT FUTURE ITEM, SO COULD BE RESPONDED TO.
NEXT ITEM IS GOING BACK UP TO CHRIS CUNY WHO IS HERE FOR, UH, THE LAKE RAY DRIVE A IF YOU'D TO COME FORWARD AND DISCUSS THAT, THAT DOES RELATE TO, AND YOU CAN WAIT UNTIL YES, SIR, I JUST, I WAS JUST GONNA MAKE MYSELF AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, SO, OKAY.
THE PEOPLE HAVE SIGNED UP FOR, UH, ITEMS ON THE AGENDA TO ADDRESS, SO WE'LL GO AHEAD AND MOVE FORWARD INTO THE OPEN PART OF THE AGENDA.
WE, UH, DO HAVE A COUPLE OF ITEMS UNDER CORRESPONDENCE.
JUST A REMINDER TO EVERYONE THAT OUR SWEARING IN CEREMONY FOR OUR NEW COMMISSIONER COURT MEMBERS AND OTHER WILL BE ON TUESDAY, JANUARY, THURSDAY, JANUARY 1ST AT 10:00 AM THE UPSTAIRS DISTRICT COURT.
AND WE NOTIFIED EVERYBODY AND I HOPE EVERYBODY IS DILIGENT IN GETTING YOUR BONDS, BUT FOR THE NEW OFFICERS, IF NOT, BE SURE TO CHECK THE MY OFFICE SO WE CAN ASSIST YOU IN ANY WAY THAT WE NEED TO GET THAT DONE.
UH, THEN, UH, I'VE HAD SOME SUGGESTIONS, BUT, UH, CLOSING AT THREE O'CLOCK ON TUESDAY AFTERNOON BEFORE CHRISTMAS EVE, UM, THIS IS SOMETHING WHICH PRETTY WELL AT EACH INDIVIDUAL DEPARTMENT TO HANDLE.
IT GETS PRETTY THIN AROUND THE COURTHOUSE.
SO, UH, I, WE LET EACH INDIVIDUAL OFFICE JUST HANDLE IT AS YOU PLEASE.
AND ALSO ON CHRIS NEW YEAR'S DAY, SAME SITUATION.
THEY'RE NOT OFFICIAL HOLIDAYS, UH, ASED BY THE COURT.
I THINK SOME OF THEM ARE FOR NEXT YEAR, BUT THEY'RE NOT REMAIN THIS YEAR.
SO ANY INTERESTED IN HAVING THAT ON YEAR MEETING
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BEFORE CHRISTMAS? UH, NEXT ITEM IS THE, UH, ROUTINE CORRESPONDENCE WHICH ARE DISCOVERED.AND THEN THE NEXT IS THE RECOGNITION OF THE ELECTED OFFICIALS OFFICE, AND THAT INCLUDES COMMISSIONER CLARK, JUDGE LEWIS, AND, UH, JUDGE T AS WELL AS THE TREASURER, JOHN COUNTRYMAN.
AND WHAT I'D LIKE FOR YOU TO DO IS TO COME DOWN TO THE FRONT YOU TIME, A FOUR YEAR PEN.
FIRST ONE WE WILL PRESENT WILL BE TO, UH, TOM MANNY, UH, AND TOM HAS BEEN A MEMBER OF THE KAUFMAN COUNTY COMMISSIONER'S COURT FROM 2011 TO 2014.
TOM, THIS IS AN APPRECIATION FOR YOUR YEARS OF DEDICATED SERVICE TO KAMAN COUNTY.
ALL OF US AT KAUFMAN COUNTY WISH TO EXPRESS YOUR HEART, OUR GRATITUDE, YOUR HARD WORK.
WE APPRECIATE YOUR HUMBLE, DEDICATED SERVICE.
NEXT WILL BE COMMISSIONER CLARK AND COMMISSIONER CLARK, UH, HAD SERVED AS A KAUFFMAN COUNTY COMMISSIONER FROM 2007 TO 2014.
COMMISSIONER, THIS IS AN APPRECIATION FOR YOUR YEARS OF DEDICATED SERVICE TO KAUFMAN COUNTY AND ALL OF US AT KAUFMAN COUNTY, WHICH WISH TO EXPRESS OUR GRATITUDE FOR YOUR HARD WORK.
AND WE APPRECIATE YOUR HUMBLE AND DEDICATED SERVICE AS WELL.
THANK, I TOLD HIM HE WAS OUT OF DRESS CODE TODAY, BUT IT DIDN'T SEEM TO BOTHER
JOHNNY UH, JOHNNY COUNTRYMAN HAS SERVED AS THE CAMAN COUNTY TREASURER FROM 2003 2014.
THIS IS AN APPRECIATION FOR YOUR YEARS OF DEDICATED SERVICE TO KAUFMAN COUNTY.
ALL OF US AT KAUFMAN COUNTY WISH TO EXPRESS OUR GRATITUDE FOR YOUR HARD WORK.
WE APPRECIATE YOUR HUMBLE AND DEDICATED SERVICE, AND JUDGE LEWIS IS HERE, I BELIEVE.
JUDGE, I'D LIKE TO HAVE YOU OVER THE PHONE.
HOPE WE'RE NOT SLOWING DOWN YOUR COURT VERY MUCH.
UH, THIS IS PRESENTED TO, UH, JUDGE DAVID LEWIS, UH, KAUFMAN COUNTY IN COURT AT LAW JUDGE FROM 2007 TO 2014 IN APPRECIATION FOR YEARS OF DEDICATED SERVICE TO KAUFMAN COUNTY.
ALL OF US AT KAUFMAN COUNTY WISH TO EXPRESS THEIR GRATITUDE FOR YOUR HARD WORK, AND WE TRULY DO APPRECIATE YOUR HUMBLE AND DEDICATED SERVICE.
AND I THINK JUDGE, TRYING TO TRACK HIM DOWN.
SO, UH, HE'S INCOGNITO SO FAR THIS MORNING.
WE NOW LET GET ALL FOUR OF YOU.
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SEVERAL ITEMS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA.UH, THE FIRST ONE IS THE ACCEPTANCE SUBMIT, UH, MEETING MINUTES FOR NOVEMBER 4TH, 2014, NOVEMBER THE SIXTH, 2014, NOVEMBER 10TH, TWO SETS MINUTES FOR NOVEMBER THE 13TH, 2014, NOVEMBER THE 18TH, 2014, NOVEMBER THE 24TH, 2014, AND DECEMBER 8TH, 2014.
WE ALSO HAVE ITEM B, WHICH IS DISCUSSED AND CONSIDER APPROVAL BOND FOR JOHN SULLIVAN AS YOUR DEPUTY CONSTABLE PRECINCT.
ADAM C IS TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER REAL APPOINTING MIKE SHARP, DON FLOYD AND TIM MOORE KAUFMAN OF COUNTY OF EMERGENCY SERVICES DISTRICT NUMBER FIVE FOR A TWO YEAR TERM.
ITEM D IS TO DISCUSS, CONSIDER POINTING ROBERT M FINGER JUDGE LEWIS, UH, JUDGE LEWIS.
UH, JUDGE, UH, JUDGE LEWIS AND DANNY BARB GARDNER BOMBARD TO THE KAMAN COUNTY EMERGENCY SERVICES DISTRICT NUMBER FOUR FOR A TWO YEAR TERM.
ITEM E IS TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACCEPTING FINANCIAL STATEMENTS FOR EMERGENCY SERVICES DISTRICT NUMBER ONE.
ITEM F IS TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER A REPOINTING CHARTER FOX TO THE KAMAN COUNTY EMERGENCY SERVICES DISTRICT NUMBER ONE FOR A TWO YEAR TERM.
AND THE LAST ITEM IS ITEM G TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER POINTING PART PARDON TO THE KAMAN COUNTY EMERGENCY DISTRICT NUMBER ONE FOR A TWO YEAR TERM REPLACING WAGE HEALTH.
GENTLEMEN, IS YOUR PLEASURE ON I MAKE A MOTION.
I HAVE A MOTION, UH, FROM COMMISSIONER EK.
COMMISSIONER MANNING ACCEPT MOTION.
OTHER COMMENTS BEFORE WE VOTE? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
THOSE OPPOSED? OKAY, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
NUMBER FOUR IS FROM TOMMY FIRE TAX ASSESSOR COLLECTOR AND I BELIEVE SHE'S, SHE IN HERE.
WE'LL CATCH HER HERE IN A MINUTE.
WHEN SHE COMES BACK IN ITEM NUMBER FIVE, WE'LL SKIP OVER TANYA.
ITEM NUMBER FIVE, IT'S JOHNNY COUNTRYMAN TO PRESENT THE, UH, TREASURE MONTHLY REPORT FOR 2014.
WE HAVE A, SOME REASON HAD TO THE MONTH, DECEMBER, LAST FRIDAY, THE OPERATING THOUSAND DOLLARS PER MONTH, WHICH IS UNUSUAL.
SOMETHING, UH, I TALKED TO THE TAX ACCESSORY COLLECTOR ABOUT THAT.
EVIDENTLY WE, UH, SOME OF THE LARGER EXECUTIONS HAVE, UH, GONE WITH A DIFFERENT COMPANY, WHICH NORMALLY WE WOULD GET THEIR MONEY, THEIR TAX MONEY MONTH, NOVEMBER.
AND I WAS TOLD ANOTHER GROUP, NORMALLY JUDGE, YOU KNOW, WE STARTED THIS THING.
ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF, UH, TREASURER? DO YOU FORESEE US HAVING ACTUALLY, RIGHT.
QUESTIONS FOR THE TREASURER? I, WE ACCEPT THE TREASURER'S REPORT.
HAVE A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER TREASURER.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
UH, THE NEXT ITEM IS TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER, UH, APPROVING A COUNTY ENDORSEMENT RESOLUTION DESIGNATING THE NORTH TEXAS, UH, BEHAVIORAL HEALTH AUTHORITY TO THE COMMUNITY HEALTH CENTER FOR KATON COUNTY.
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HAD ASKED THAT WE PUT THIS ON THE AGENDA, UH, SAY JUDGE WILLIAMS, JUDGE LEWIS AND NOT LEWIS.UH, JUDGE HAD ASKED US TO PLACE THIS ON THE AGENDA, AND I DON'T BELIEVE HE'S HERE.
I THINK HE HAS COURT THIS MORNING.
BUT I DO KNOW WE HAVE AT LEAST THREE PEOPLE, UH, FROM THE NORTH TEXAS BEHAVIORAL AUTHORITY GROUP THAT ARE HERE.
AND THE FIRST ONE I'D LIKE TO COME ON THAT WISHES TO ADDRESS THIS PARTICULAR ITEM ON OUR AGENDA IS SANDY POTTER, UH, WHO IS WITH THE NORTH NORTH TEXAS BEHAVIORAL CENTER.
SO SANDY, IF YOU'D LIKE TO COME FORWARD AND GIVE US YOUR THOUGHTS, IF YOU'D LIKE TO COME FORWARD AS A GROUP, YOU CERTAINLY DO THAT.
JUST IF YOU DON'T MIND, I'D LIKE TO INTRODUCE MATTER FIRST, THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE NORTH TEXAS BAY HEALTH PARTY.
UH, AND WE'D LIKE TO THANK YOU, JUDGE WOODS AND COMMISSIONS FOR CONSIDERING THIS THIS MORNING.
JUDGE CHITTY LAST MONTH, I BELIEVE, HAD BROUGHT TO YOU A RESOLUTION THAT YOU ADOPTED IN SUPPORT OF NORTH STAR WITH THE SUNSET CONDITION.
UH, SUNSET CONDITION HAS MET IN, UH, MADE A RECOMMENDATION TO THE LEGISLATURE THAT WILL FUNDAMENTALLY RESTRUCTURE NORTH STAR, PULLING OUT A MEDICAID, UH, COMPONENT OF THE FINANCING.
NORTH STAR IS YOUR BEHAVIORAL HEALTH AND SUBSTANCE ABUSE SERVICE TO COUNTY, ALONG WITH SEVEN, UH, SIX OTHER COUNTIES.
UM, WE'RE ASKING TODAY WITH THIS RESOLUTION TO COME BACK AND REAFFIRM TAMAN COUNTY'S COMMITMENT TO NORTH STAR AS WE GO ABOUT REORGANIZING IT TO BE A, AN INDIGENT SYSTEM OF CARE AS OPPOSED TO SYSTEM OF MEDICAID.
THE, UH, SUNSET COMMISSION HAS, UH, CHARGED US WITH COMING BACK TO THEM ON MARCH.
UH, FIRST, I BELIEVE IT'S WITH A PLAN RESTRUCTURING NORTH STAR, UH, TO AN INDIGEN SYSTEM OF CARE.
UH, THE BEHAVIORAL HEALTH AUTHORITY OF N HAS OVERSIGHT OF THIS SYSTEM.
IT HAS, UH, THIS PAST YEAR ONE, THREE UNIQUE PROVIDERS THAT ARE SERVING CITIZENS OF KAMAN COUNTY AND SUBSTANCE ABUSE.
THAT SYSTEM PRETTY MUCH STAY INTACT IF WE COUNTIES TOGETHER AND GO BACK AND SAY, WE'RE GONNA STAY AS A NORTH STAR PROVIDER, NORTH STAR SYSTEM AND USE THE TEXAS HEALTH.
SO THAT, THAT'S THE FUNDAMENTAL BASIS OF WHY WE'RE HERE TODAY.
UH, WE'RE TRYING TO RESHAPE OURSELVES TO, UH, COMPLY WITH THE SUNSET COMMISSION RECOMMENDATIONS.
WE DON'T KNOW IF THE STATE LEGISLATION WILL ACCEPT THE RECOMMENDATION OR NOT, BUT WE NEED TO HAVE A PLAN IN PLACE BY MARCH 1ST IN CASE LEGISLATURE DOES LEGISLATION.
UH, SANDY POTTER IS THE CHIEF EXECUTIVE OFFICER AND PRESIDENT OF VALUE OPTIONS, WHICH WE HAVE ON THE CONTRACT.
SHE'S THE, UH, OVERSIGHT MANAGED CARE COMPANY THAT HAS BUILT THE SYSTEM SERVING COUNTY SIX A LOT INFORMATION TO SUPPORT OUR REQUEST.
WHAT'S THE REASON FOR PULLING THE MEDICAID FUNDING OUTTA IT? WELL, IT, IT'S, IT, IT'S BEEN A BIG DEBATE.
UH, A LOT OF WHAT THEY SAY IS THEY WANT THE WHOLE STATE TO LOOK THE SAME.
THE REST OF THE STATE HAS TAKEN ALL THE MEDICAID FUNDING AND PUT THOSE TO WHAT THEY CALL MCOS MANAGED CARE ORGANIZATIONS.
UH, IN EFFECT VALUE OPTIONS IS IN A WAY A MANAGED CARE ORGANIZATION.
BUT, UH, THEY'RE TRYING TO, UH, RUN ALL THE FUNDS THROUGH THESE MCOS AND THEN THE MCOS WILL THEN GO OUT OF CONTRACT FOR SERVICES IN VARIOUS AREAS CURRENTLY BEING SERVED OR MEDICAID, AND THEY WILL DESIGNATE WHO THE PROVIDERS ARE AND THEY'LL CONTRACT WITH PROVIDERS.
SO WE'RE JUST DIVIDING IT NOW.
MEDICAID'S GONNA BE OVER HERE.
WE WON'T HAVE MUCH TO SAY ABOUT THAT.
UH, INDIGENT WILL BE OVER HERE, AND WE PROPOSE TO KEEP US INTACT SO WE CAN MANAGE THAT INDIGENT FUND.
IT'S A LOT BETTER IF WE COULD SIT DOWN AND TELL SERVICES AND SAY WE'RE FOUR OR FIVE OR SIX COUNTIES, UH, PUTTING TOGETHER THIS PACKAGE FOR INDIGENT.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S THUMBNAILS DESCRIPTION AS TO WHY IT'S JUST THE DECISION THAT THEY MADE THAT MANAGE THEIR MEDICAID DOLLARS IN THEIR PROJECT.
PART OF THE OPPORTUNITY ALSO, UH, THANK YOU FOR HAVING US ON.
SANDY WALKER, UH, IS TO ALLOW FOR THE INDIGENT FUNDING TO FLOW THROUGH, UH, NIPA AS THE AUTHORITY AND ALLOW FOR CONTINUATION OF OPPORTUNITIES FOR SOME DIS, UH, DISTRICT FUNDS.
UNDER THE 1115 MEDICAID WAIVER.
UH, IT IS ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY TO GENERATE, UH, INDIGENT BASED
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SERVICES FOR THE SYSTEM.SO VALUE OPTION SUPPORTS, UH, YOU KNOW, UH, DESIGNATING NIPA AS THE COMMUNITY CENTER.
UH, IN, IN THIS DESIGN, WE WILL RETAIN A BEHAVIORAL HEALTH SYSTEM THAT INCLUDES SUBSTANCE ABUSE AND MENTAL HEALTH PROVIDERS.
PART OF WHAT VALUE OPTIONS DOES IS SUBCONTRACTS TO MANAGE, UH, SERVICES FOR NCOS FOR MEDICAID.
AND SO WE WILL BE WORKING WITH OUR MCOS AS WE DO TODAY TO, UH, SHOW THEM THE OPPORTUNITIES TO MAINTAIN THE NETWORK.
THAT INCLUDES OVER 300 KILOMETERS.
AND ON THIS FIRST, UH, COLORFUL BAR GRAPH THAT YOU HAVE, UM, THE T THE MEMBER GROUP TX AND S OH ONE, THAT'S THE MEDICAID.
SO THAT'S YOUR DARK BLUE OR ROYAL BLUE COLOR.
AND IT'S THE GREEN COLOR THAT, UH, WHERE THE FUNDS WILL GO THROUGH NIPA IN THE FUTURE.
AND AGAIN, THIS CHANGES TWO YEARS DOWN THE ROAD.
TN ACCESS N OKAY, THE TOP, SORRY, TX NS, WHICH STANDS FOR TEXAS NORTH STAR OH SEVEN IS THE INGEN.
UH, THE 15 GROUP IS CHIP, AND WE DO NOT PAY FOR A LOT OF SERVICES FOR KIDS THAT ARE ON THE CHIP PROGRAM BECAUSE THEY'RE, THEY HAVE TO GIVE HEALTH SERVICES AND THAT, UH, BENEFIT.
AND THEN, UH, YOU'LL SEE THE NEXT BRIGHTEST COLOR, WHICH IS AT THE TOP IS THE MEDICARE MEDICAID, UH, SSI DISABLED POPULATION.
SO, OF INTEREST TO YOU IS THAT, UM, WE HAVE OVER 103 PROVIDERS CURRENTLY DELIVERING SERVICES FOR KAMAN COUNTY RESIDENTS.
UH, THERE WERE OVER 2033 UNIQUE INDIVIDUALS WHO RECEIVED NORTH STAR SERVICES, WHO ARE POLAND COUNTY RESIDENTS IN THE PAST FISCAL YEAR.
AND THE AVERAGE COST FOR THOSE INDIVIDUALS WAS, UH, JUST SHY OF $1,300.
THAT NUMBER DOES NOT INCLUDE PHARMACY OR TRANSPORTATION SERVICES, THINGS THAT ARE INVOICED.
SO THIS IS A PURE CLAIMS PROFILE, UH, THAT I RAN FRIDAY BEFORE I LEFT THE OFFICE.
AND THEN JUST TO GIVE YOUR PERSPECTIVE ON THE PROVIDERS WHO ARE TREATING COMAN COUNTY RESIDENTS, LAKES REGIONAL IS OUR LARGEST PROVIDER FOR Y'ALL, AND THERE'S 1084 MEMBERS IN THE SYSTEM RECEIVING SERVICES.
AND YOU CAN SEE THE AVERAGE COST.
AND THEN THE LAB IS, IS, UH, NEXT FOR THE PEOPLE SERVED.
BUT IF YOU GO DOWN THE LINE, YOU CAN SEE, UH, A SIGNIFICANT PORTION OF RECEIVED SERVICES FROM GREEN OAKS CHILD AND FAMILY GUIDANCE, DALLAS METRIC CARE, AND THAT, UM, AND THEN YOU HAVE YOUR SUBSTANCE ABUSE PROVIDERS SUCH AS HOMEWARD BOUND AND NEXUS.
THOSE ARE YOUR SPECIALTY RESIDENTIAL PROGRAMS, UH, WHERE WE PROVIDE SERVICES FOR THOSE INDIVIDUALS.
AGAIN, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT MAKES THE SYSTEM COST EFFECTIVE IS THAT IT'S, UM, BLENDED BETWEEN BEHAVIORAL HEALTH AND SUBSTANCE ABUSE SO THAT WHEN PEOPLE ARE IN SUBSTANCE ABUSE TREATMENT, THEY DON'T GO ELSEWHERE FOR THEIR MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES.
THEY CAN GET 'EM, UH, AS A, WHAT WE CALL A CO-OCCURRING, UH, SERVICE.
ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT OUR PROGRAM? AND THIS IS THE KIND OF INFORMATION THAT I GIVE TO JUDGE CHITTY EVERY MONTH WHEN WE PRESENT TO THE N BOARD, AND I KNOW YOU'VE PROBABLY SEEN IT FOR THE FIRST TIME, WE'VE PART OF THE NORTH TEXAS FOR MANY YEARS.
AND I READ YESTERDAY THE STORY THAT WAS BEEN 20 YEARS AND LOOKS LIKE THINGS ARE CHANGING OR PROPOSING TO BE CHANGING, AND YOU HAVE AN UPDATE ON THAT, OR I MEAN, THAT, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT RIGHT NOW.
THE CHANGE REALLY IS SPLITTING MEDICAID OUT.
UM, THE STATE IS GIVING ALL THE COUNTIES A CHOICE TO STAY, UH, IN THE SYSTEM WITH, UH, NORTH TEXAS BEHAVIORAL HEALTH AUTHORITY AND, AND RUN THAT AS AN INDIGEN PROGRAM WHERE WE COULD CONTINUE TO PROVIDE SERVICES.
TOMAN COUNTY FOR YOUR INDI MEDICAID PATIENTS WOULD HAVE CHOICE BASED ON WHATEVER NCO THEIR MEDICAID, UH, BESIDES TO STAY WITH.
SO IN ESSENCE, WE WOULD LOOK PRETTY MUCH THE SAME AS WE'RE, WE WOULD HAVE VALUE OPTIONS AS THE A A O, THEY WOULD'VE PROVIDERS UNDER CONTRACT, UH, JUST AS WE HAVE RIGHT NOW, THAT WOULD CONTINUE TO PROVIDE SERVICES TO YOUR INGEN CLIENTELE, WHICH ACCOUNTS FOR ABOUT 60%, I GUESS, OF OUR BUSINESS.
UM, SO IT WOULD, FROM THAT, THEIR PERSPECTIVE IN THE IN UNIT, IT WOULD BE KIND OF SEAMLESS.
SO WE'LL JUST SAY, WE'VE BEEN HERE FOR 15 YEARS, WE'VE GOT THE INFRASTRUCTURE IN PLACE,
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WE KNOW YOU HAVE A CHOICE.WE'D LIKE YOU TO, YOU STAY WITH THE SYSTEM'S, BEEN WITH 15 YEARS, JUDGE CHI HAS BEEN OUTSTANDING.
REPRESENTATIVE
LIKE I SAID, UH, THE, THE SUNSET COMMISSION HAS GIVEN US UNTIL MARCH 1ST COME UP WITH STRUCTURE OF WHAT THE NEW SYSTEM WOULD LOOK LIKE TO HAVE THAT IN PLACE AND IN HAND.
SO, UH, IF THE LEGISLATURE IN JANUARY DECIDES TO ACCEPT THE RECOMMENDATION AND GO IN THIS NEW DIRECTION, WE WILL HAVE A SYSTEM TO START BUILDING UPON AND BE READY.
NOW, IF THE LEGISLATURE DOESN'T ACCEPT, WHICH IS ALWAYS A POSSIBILITY, THEN I GUESS WE PROCEED ON TRUCTURE WE HAVE RIGHT NOW.
BUT WE GOTTA, WE'VE GOTTA BUILD THIS UP AND HAVE SOMETHING IN HAND.
WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO SIT DOWN AT THE TABLE WITH HHSC AND ON NEGOTIATIONS AND TELL THEM WHAT COUNTIES ARE WITH THE BEHAVIORAL HEALTH AUTHORITY AND START MOVING FORWARD.
WHAT KIND OF TIMEFRAME ARE YOU ON? WE, WE WILL STAY AS WE ARE FOR ANOTHER TWO YEARS, AS OF JANUARY 17, IF THE RECOMMENDATIONS THEN WE'LL TO THIS NEW MODEL, BUT THE TIMEFRAME RIGHT NOW IS TO HAVE A PROPOSED PLAN TO DISCUSS WITH THE PEOPLE IN AUSTIN BY MARCH 1ST OF NEXT YEAR.
QUESTIONS? ANYBODY? WE HAVE ANOTHER GROUP THAT'S HERE THAT WOULD LIKE TO VISIT WITH US ABOUT THIS SAME SITUATION.
I BELIEVE WE HAVE A COUPLE OF OTHER FOLKS THAT ARE HERE, UH, THAT REPRESENT ANOTHER GROUP.
AND, UH, BACK TO JAMES, WE COME FORWARD.
THIS IS FROM THE OTHER PROVIDER THAT, UH, I BELIEVE WE HAVE IT.
I'M GONNA PRESENT THROUGHOUT THE OPPOSITE OF WHAT ALLISON SANDY DID.
I SAY THAT THAT'S NOT WHAT I HAVE.
IF YOU TAKE THE, UH, THE DALLAS MORNING NEWS ARTICLE YESTERDAY, UH, WHICH IS I THINK A GOOD ARTICLE, I THINK ONE OF THE PIECES SAYS, BUT CRITICS HAVE ARGUED THAT THE SYSTEMS OFFERS LESS COMPREHENSIVE CARE AND CAUSES THE REASON REGION TO LOSE OUT STATE DOLLARS.
NOW, TO BREAK UP THE SYSTEMS GAINING STEAM THIS MONTH, THE STATE OVERSIGHT PANEL DESCRIBED NORTH STAR AS OUTDATED AND SUGGESTED IT BE SPR.
I'M OF THAT OPINION, I'M OF THAT OPINION, WHAT THE SUNSET COMMISSION RECOMMENDED.
I'M OF THAT OPINION THAT WE NEED TO BRING THIS LOCAL AUTHORITY BACK HOME TO CALTON COUNTY.
WE ARE THE PROVIDER, THE PRIMARY PROVIDER IN COLTON COUNTY TO DO THESE SERVICES.
AND WHAT HAPPENS IS THAT WHEN YOU LOOK AT YOUR QUESTION ABOUT MEDICAID, WHAT WHAT THE STATE HAS DONE IS THE NORTH STAR MODEL WAS A VERY GOOD AND VERY EFFICIENT FOR ABOUT 10 YEARS.
THEN IT STARTED RUNNING OUT MONEY.
AND SO THEN THEY STARTED DOING THE CONTRACTS DIFFERENTLY.
SO NOW I HAVE CONTRACTS AND I WROTE A LETTER TO JUDGE AND WE'VE DONE ONE TRAINING WITH JUDGE WOOD AND JUDGE CHEE AND, AND I'VE GOT ANOTHER THING WAS JUDGE CHEE.
AND, AND, UH, UH, I'LL READ YOU PART OF THAT.
WE'VE BEEN IN A DALLAS CENTRIC AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE IN.
WE'RE IN A DALLAS CENTRIC MODEL LONG ENOUGH TO KNOW OUR CITIZENS AND OUR COMMUNITIES ARE NOT GETTING THEIR FAIR SHARE OF INCOME SERVICES.
WE APPLAUD THE WORK OF NORTH STAR THROUGH NORTH TEXAS HEALTH, BEHAVIORAL HEALTH AUTHORITY, ALEX, AS WELL AS VALUE OPTIONS OF TEXAS SANDY OVER THE PAST 15 YEARS.
BUT REALIZE IN THE LAST TWO CONTRACTS WITH PROVIDERS, RATES HAVE BEEN CUT TO A LEVEL BELOW THAT OF MEDICAID.
THE MEDICAID HAVE BEEN CARRIED IN COST FOR PROVIDERS IN WAYS THAT EVERYBODY,
WE BELIEVE THAT IF YOU, IF YOU GO WITH A MODEL THAT PUTS YOU ALL JUST INDIGENT, THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT NOW IN WITH DALLAS COUNTY, YOU'RE GOING TO SUCK ALL THE AIR OUT OF YOU.
DALLAS IS WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT INDIGENCY AND YOU PUT COUNTY WITH DALLAS, YOU CAN REST ASSURED THAT THE BIG ELEPHANT ROOM IS NOT YOU.
AND SO OUR POINT IS THAT WE WANT TO BRING THAT AUTHORITY BACK HOME.
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NORTH STARTED AGAIN 15 YEARS AGO, WE USED TO BE COURT.I STARTED WORKING AT TAR STATE HOSPITAL IN 1977, LIVED THERE FOR 15 YEARS, RAISED A FAMILY THERE, THEN MOVED INTO TERRELL, GOT PARKED OUT IN 27, 28.
WE ARE THE SIGNIFICANT PROVIDER HERE.
WE DO THE SAME THING THAT THEY WANT TO DO IN TERMS OF, IN TERMS OF WHAT, WHAT LAKES REGIONAL IN MAR CENTER IS.
OUR HOME IS HERE IN, UH, IN CAMAN COUNTY IN TERRELL.
WE HAVE AN OPERATIONAL BUDGET OF 35 MILLION, A CASH RESERVE OF 3.5 MILLION, SIX MAJOR CONTRACTS WITH STATE AGENCIES, DISHES, MENTAL HEALTH AND SUBSTANCE USE.
WE HAVE A TOTAL OVER 228 VENDOR CONTRACTS.
OUR LARGEST COUNTY OF THE 15 THAT I WORK IN IS HUNT COUNTY.
THAT IS THE TYPE OF COMMUNITY THAT WE PROVIDE INDIGENT AND MEDICAID SERVICES IN.
UH, WHAT YOU GET CAUGHT IN NORTH STAR FROM A RURAL PERSPECTIVE, FROM THE COUNTIES THAT CIRCLE IT, AND THAT'S WHAT THEY, THEY CALL US AS A RURAL AREA IS, UM, IS A REAL DALLAS CENTRIC MODEL.
WHAT THE MEDICAID PIECE IS, IS THE REST OF THE STATE.
WHAT CHANGED IN SEPTEMBER ONE IS THAT IF YOU'RE A MEDICAID RECIPIENT, YOU GO TO AN MCO.
NOW YOU HAVE CHOICES BETWEEN THESE MANAGED CARE ORGANIZATIONS.
VALUE OPTIONS RIGHT NOW IS A BEHAVIORAL HEALTH ORGANIZATION.
AND SO AN NM CO WOULD HANDLE YOUR SUBSTANCE ABUSE, YOUR MEDICAID IN TERMS OF PRIMARY CARE AS WELL AS YOUR MENTAL HEALTH.
SO YOU'RE NOT GOING TO MULTIPLE INSURANCE PROVIDERS FOR YOUR MEDICAID SERVICES.
ALL OF YOUR PLAN IS IN ONE AND YOU CAN MANAGE THAT BETTER.
WE THINK THAT'S A BETTER MODEL.
YOU HAVE A LOT MORE CHOICE OF PROVIDERS AND YOU DO IT IN A MUCH MORE LOCAL LEVEL BY, BY COUNTY.
UM, INDIGENT, WE, WE ARE THERE FOR SEVEN COUNTIES.
SO YOU TAKE SULFUR SPRINGS, MOUNT PLEASANT, PARIS, THOSE ARE COUNTIES THAT I'M INDIGENT AUTHORITY IN, RIGHT? TODAY.
I DON'T HAVE TO GO GET SOMETHING DONE.
I JUST EXPANDED THAT SAME WAY IN TERMS OF MY NETWORK THERE.
ANY OF THE PROVIDERS ARE PROVIDING SERVICES TODAY OR ANY OTHER PROVIDERS WHO WANT TO PROVIDE SERVICES, WE WILL BRING IN OUR NETWORK.
THE PRIMARY OTHER PROVIDER THAT DOES SERVICES IS, IS ADAPTIVE TEXAS.
WE BROUGHT HERE OVER 15 YEARS AGO, THEY DID OUR ACT ON A CONTRACT BASIS.
SO THERE'S NOTHING ABOUT BRINGING OTHER PROVIDERS OR, OR HAVING CHOICE OR OPTIONS.
AND WE'RE ALL ABOUT PROVIDING IT IN COMMUNITIES OF THIS SIZE.
AND SO THAT'S OUR, THAT'S OUR DEAL.
WE'VE DONE SOME TRAINING ABOUT THOSE NCOS V HOS, IF Y'ALL LIKED, UH, ANY TYPE OF TRAINING ON THAT, I'D BE MORE THAN HAPPY WHAT IT FALLS FOR IN THIS SUNSET.
WHEN YOU TAKE THIS AND YOU LOOK AT, WHAT DOES IT SAY THE LOCAL PLAN MUST BE AGREED TO BY MAJORITY OF THE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS AS WELL AS THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS OF THE LOCAL MENTAL HEALTH COMMUNITY CENTER.
THAT'S US IN EACH COUNTY COVERED BY THE LOCAL PLAN.
NOW, NPA CAN BECOME A LOCAL COMMUNITY CENTER IF YOU WANT 'EM TO BE.
THEY'RE NOT THAT NOW, THEY'RE NOT A COMMUNITY CENTER.
THEY CAN BECOME IT UNDER THIS, BUT THAT'LL BE PART OF WHAT YOU'D BE SAYING IS WE WANT THEM TO BE A COMMUNITY CENTER.
UH, COUNTIES WHO DO NOT WANT TO REMAIN WITHIN NORTH STAR SYSTEM MAY ADOPT THE CURRENT DSHS MODEL OF BEHAVIORAL HEALTH SERVICE DELIVERY FOUND IN OTHER PARTS OF THE STATE OUTSIDE OF NORTH STAR.
I DO THAT IN, I THINK IT'S TIME TO BRING HOMELESS AUTHORITY BACK TO TON COUNTY.
GENTLEMEN, HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? I VOLUNTEER OFFICE.
THERE WAS, I'M CONFUSED AS USUAL, ESPECIALLY ON THIS MATTER, IF ANYBODY'S LOOKING FOR SOMETHING TO WORK ON, THEY, THEY NEED TO WORK ON THIS BECAUSE I GUARANTEE YOU, TRANSPORTATION ISSUES, CATTLE ROAD MAINTENANCE ISSUES, ANIMAL CONTROL ISSUES ARE PIECE OF CAKE TO SOLVE VERSUS WHAT THAT CONTRACT GUN HERE, AND I DON'T KNOW ENOUGH ABOUT IT EXCEPT FOR THE FACT THAT WHENEVER WE WERE, WHY DID, IN THE 1115 WAIVER, WE WERE COUPLED WITH DALLAS COUNTY, THERE'S REASON FOR THAT Y'ALL CHOSE, THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE OUR, OUR Y'ALL, Y'ALL SHOWED Y'ALL COULD HAVE GONE WITH REGION ONE, WHICH WOULD'VE BEEN OUT OF TYLER.
YOU COULD GONE WITH REGION 18, WHICH IS OUT OF COLLIN COUNTY.
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YOU COULD GONE WITH REGION NINE, WHICH IS IN, IN DALLAS.NOW WE'RE THE SIGNIFICANT DISTRICT THAT'S A DELIVERY SYSTEM REFORM INCENTIVE PAYMENT.
WE HAVE A NUMBER OF, OF, UH, INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE RECEIVING 1115 PROJECTS BECAUSE WE COULD DO THAT.
NOW, IN THIS, IN THIS, UH, WHOLE SUNSET, IT SAYS THAT'S ONE OF ONE OF THE REASONS THEY IT'S OUTDATED IS BECAUSE THE CURRENT AUTHORITY SYSTEM, NEITHER THE WAY NFA, WHAT ALEX IS DOING OR WHAT SANDY'S DOING RIGHT NOW, THEY'RE NOT ELIGIBLE TO DO THAT.
AND SO THIS PROCESS GIVES 'EM ABILITY TO BECOME THAT.
WHERE IF THEY COULD DO THAT, BUT THAT'S A FIVE YEAR PLAN.
THE THE 1115 STUFF, AND WE'RE IN YEAR FOUR.
SO HOW YOU GET THIS DONE? IT'D BE A NEW PLAN.
IT WOULDN'T BE THE, THE TOP 1115 WE HAVE TODAY.
EVEN IF YOU REMEMBER WHY WE WENT WITH THERE WAS WE WERE STRONGLY RECOMMENDING A TEAM UP IN DALLAS COUNTY.
THAT'S GONNA BE TO OUR ADVANTAGE.
THAT WAS THE, WE TALKED WITH PRESBYTERIAN, UH, HERE AND IT WAS FELT WE WOULD BE BETTER SERVICE.
UH, YOU COULD ARGUE EITHER WAY.
ONE OF THOSE THINGS, YOU KNOW, THAT WE AT CAREFULLY AND UH, I GUESS THE QUESTION I WOULD'VE IS ON EITHER THESE GROUPS NORTH, ONE OF THE ISSUES WE HAVE IN OUR COUNTY IS THE FACT THAT WE HAVE A NUMBER OF THE INMATES THAT ARE IN OUR COUNTY JAIL ARE THERE DOG.
THEY'RE MENTALLY I AND WHAT KIND OF SERVICES WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO PROVIDE? YOU CAN'T USE ANY OF THESE FUNDS TO PROVIDE SERVICES INSIDE THE JAILS NOW 1115 YOU CAN, BUT YOU CAN'T USE ANY OF THESE IN DOLLARS THAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE IN THESE MEDICAID DOLLARS ON A, IN MODE.
NOW WE'RE WORKING WITH ROCKWELL COUNTY RIGHT NOW IN CONJUNCTION WITH VALUE OPTIONS AND COMMISSIONER SUPPORT THERE BECAUSE THEY PUT UP LOCAL MATCH ABOUT DOING A POST DISCHARGE PROGRAM FOR PEOPLE COMING OUTTA THE JAIL.
I MEAN, WE'RE IN THE FINALS OF THAT, BUT THAT'S CERTAINLY A COMMUNITY TYPE OF THAT COMMISSIONER OPTIONS CURRENT SYSTEM, THOSE TYPE OF PROGRAMS I THINK ARE REALLY GOOD.
BUT YOU'RE USING, YOU'RE USING YOUR COUNTY DOLLARS, UH, FOR, IS THERE ANY WAY THAT THE TWO OF THE ORGANIZATIONS CAN FUNCTION AS A GROUP TOGETHER? WELL, WE DO CURRENTLY.
I MEAN, UH, RIGHT NOW VALUE OPTIONS IS THE BEHAVIORAL HEALTH OF, UH, UH, ORGANIZATION WHO PAYS US AND AUTHORIZES SERVICES.
UH, NFA IS THE AUTHORITY PIECE, NOT IN LIKE A COMMUNITY CENTER, BUT IN, IN SOME OVERSIGHT AND COMPLAINT PROCESS.
I I DON'T, I DON'T WANNA THINK THAT EITHER ONE OF THESE PEOPLE HAVE DONE ANYTHING THAT'S BAD OR WRONG OR ANY OF THOSE TYPE OF THINGS.
IT'S JUST WHAT HIS SUNSET SAYS HERE NOW IS THAT THE CURRENT SYSTEM IS, IS OUT OF DATE, IT'S ENC PLATED, IT NEEDS TO BE OVERHAULED.
AND THEY GIVE THIS OPTION OF HOW YOU CAN COME BACK AND DO THAT AT A LOCAL LEVEL.
AND WE THINK COUNTY, IT SERVES PEOPLE BEST TO HAVE A LOCAL AUTHORITY WITHIN COUNTY AS OPPOSED TO WITHIN, WITHIN A LARGER THING THAT'S GOT DOUBT.
AND YOU'D LIKE TO ADDRESS THAT? CERTAINLY.
UH, IN THE CURRENT SYSTEM, THE WAY WE DO THE GYM BASED, UH, INTERVENTION IS TRANSCARE IS CONTRACTED UNDER A VALUE ADDED SERVICE FROM VALUE OPTIONS.
WHICH MEANS WE, OUR, UM, ADMINISTRATIVE DOLLARS TO HAVE, UH, COUNSELORS AND NURSES COME OUT THERE AND DO ASSESSMENTS AND GIVE, UM, FEEDBACK TO YOUR JAIL HEALTH SERVICES ON PROVIDING TREATMENT AND GETTING PEOPLE OUT OF THE JAIL SYSTEM.
AND WE'VE BEEN DOING THAT FOR, GOSH, IT SEEMS LIKE, I THINK SEVEN AND A HALF, EIGHT YEARS PRIOR TO THAT, WE HAD THE GLOBAL CRISIS TEAM COME OUT AS PART OF GLOBAL CRISIS SERVICES.
UM, AS A FORMER PROBATION OFFICER, MYSELF AND A 30 YEAR SOCIAL WORKER IN THE SYSTEM, I'M VERY PASSIONATE ABOUT JAIL DIVERSION SERVICES AND IT'S ALWAYS BEEN A HUGE PART OF OUR PROGRAM, THE VALUE OPTION TO JUST REPROCURING THE MANAGEMENT OF THE NORTH STAR CONTRACT, UH, THIS SUMMER.
AND IN OUR, UH, RFP, WE DETAILED A LOT OF OUR, UH, EXPANDED GEL DIVERSION PLANS, WHICH WE WOULD SEE STRUCTURING IN THE NEW SYSTEM.
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THANK YOU.JAIL DIVERSION IS A PART OF THIS CONTRACT DOING SERVICES INSIDE THE JAIL WITH THOSE DOLLARS, WITH THOSE TAX DOLLARS, YOU HAVE TO GO THROUGH A JAIL TYPE OF BUDGET.
CERTAINLY ON THE CRISIS WHEN IT'S ROBUST HERE, WHICH I WOULD HOPE WOULD BE IN THE FUTURE, WOULD BE ONE OF THOSE THINGS IN PRE, PRE ADJUDICATED IS IS WHERE YOU WANNA GET THAT.
YOU DON'T WANNA GET IT ONCE YOU'RE IN, YOU WANNA THAT PREDICATED PROGRAM OR YOU HAVE A ROBUST PROGRAM IN OUT SO THAT THEY DON'T GO.
SO I THINK WHAT YOU HAVE AND, AND I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU WANNA DO IT, YOU KNOW, WE WERE THINKING THAT THERE WAS PROBABLY GONNA BE SOME WORKSHOPS AND STUFF LIKE THAT IN TERMS OF HOW WE WOULD BE INVOLVED IN COMMISSIONER'S QUARTET WAS THIS SHOWED UP ON THE DOCKET, SO WE RESPONDED TO IT.
UH, YOU KNOW, I WOULD, I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO VOTE NO OR TO TABLE ANY TYPE OF VOTE ON THIS UNTIL YOU REALLY HAVE AN UNDERSTANDING, UH, OF IT IN
I'M GONNA MEET WITH, UH, I'VE BEEN MEETING WITH COUNTY NATIONAL CHAPTER HERE AND COUNTY, WE'LL BE AT 11 WHEN I GET THROUGH HERE AGAIN ABOUT WHAT'S, WHAT'S GOING ON TODAY.
UH, I THINK YOU WILL BE BETTER SERVED BY SOMEONE WHO WORKED WITH COMMUNITIES OF YOUR SIZE AND THAT YOU DON'T GET ALL OF THIS, THIS, THIS CENTRIC STUFF JUST, JUST RIPPED OUT BECAUSE WHEN YOU START TALKING ABOUT DOLLARS, IT, AND THAT'S KIND OF, THAT'S KIND OF WHAT OUR, UH, WHAT OUR BREAD AND BUTTER IS, IS WORKING COMMUN.
YEAH, SHE STICK HER HEAD IN HERE.
MAYBE WE GET HER TO COME BACK OUT.
I JUDGE JUDY AND DESIREE AND IT'S IN THE WORKSHOP BECAUSE LEARNING ABOUT THIS IS A VERY COMPLICATED ISSUE.
WHAT YOU TOLD US 15 MINUTES IS JUST PROBABLY CONFUSED ALL OF US.
WHAT IS THE TIMEFRAME WHEN THE DECISION HAS TO BE MADE? WELL, THE PLAN IS, IS WHAT ALEX AND SANDY IS IN MARCH.
YOU KNOW, IT IS, UH, THERE'S, THERE'S SOME TIME, BUT YOU KNOW, IT COMES FAIRLY RAPIDLY, YOU KNOW, UH, CERTAINLY YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT 20 17, 20 16.
THERE'S A 2015 DAY, BUT, UH, UH, I MEAN THERE'S, THERE'S NOTHING THAT, THAT IS PARAMOUNT TODAY PROCESS, RIGHT? YES.
I'M SORRY, I I WASN'T IN HERE SO I DON'T REALLY KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON.
SO MAY WELL, THIS IS A DECISION THAT HAS LANDED IN THE COURT'S LAP ABOUT WHETHER WE SHOULD STAY WITH THE NORTH NORTH STAR, UH, ILLNESS PROGRAM THAT WE CURRENTLY, OR WHETHER WE SHOULD GO WITH A NEW PROVIDER, THE LAKES REGIONAL, WHICH IS LOCATED PRIMARILY IN TER.
UM, AND I BELIEVE YOU GOT CHANCE TO LOOK OVER ANY OF THIS.
DISCUSS ABOUT DISTRICT 1115 WAIVER.
YEAH, I KNOW THAT LAKES REGIONAL IS DOING THE DISTRICT PROGRAM.
UM, NOW NORTH STAR, I DON'T, I DON'T WORK WITH VERY MANY CLIENTS THAT ARE ON THE NORTH STAR PROGRAM.
MOST OF MY CLIENTS ARE WITH LAKE REGIONAL THAT I WORK WITH.
SO, UM, ARE ARE THEY WANTING TO MOVE IT TO Y'ALL? IS THAT WHAT THE SITUATION, THAT'S WHAT WE WOULD BE ASKING FOR.
THERE'S, THERE'S A NEW OPPORTUNITY OF HOW YOU CAN CHOOSE THAT, THAT LOCAL AUTHORITY.
LIKE I SAID, I'VE GOT, I GO TO A LOT TO THE LAKES REGIONAL MEETINGS ON THE DISTRICT AND EVERYTHING AND, UM, NOT VERY, ANY OF MY CLIENTS ARE ON THE NORTH STAR PROGRAM.
UM, MOST SOME DO GO TO THE LAKES REGIONAL, SO THAT'S WHAT I CURRENTLY DEAL WITH.
SO, UH, IF, IF YOU DON'T MIND, I'D LIKE TO READ INTO THIS A LITTLE BIT MORE TO KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON, IF WE CAN.
JUDGE, JUST A, A CLARIFICATION THAT THE FORMAT DOWN HERE RIGHT NOW IS LAKES REGIONAL'S CONTRACTED THE VALUE OPTIONS AND VALUE OPTIONS PAYS LAKES REGIONAL TO SEE ALL THE INDIGENT AND MEDICAID CLIENTS OF KAUFMAN COUNTY.
SO THEY ARE A PROVIDER FOR VALUE OPTIONS.
RIGHT NOW, WHAT THEY'RE ASKING FOR IS TO BE, UH, PEEL US OFF AND DESIGNATE THEM AS YOUR COMMUNITY CENTER AS OPPOSED TO DESIGNATING, UH, BEHAVIORAL HEALTH AUTHORITIES ARE COMMUNITY CENTER, BUT RIGHT NOW, UH, THEIR CONTRACT WITH VALUE OPTIONS, VALUE OPTIONS PAYS FOR THE CLIENTS THAT, UH, GO TO, UH, LAKES REGIONAL THAT ARE EITHER, LIKE I SAID, MEDICAID OR JUST TO CLARIFY THAT.
AND, AND SOMETHING ELSE TOO IS, UM, MY PROGRAM, WE DON'T REALLY DEAL WITH MENTAL
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HEALTH.UM, SO IT'S KIND OF HARD FOR ME TO, YOU KNOW, DISTINGUISH BETWEEN THE TWO.
SO I, UNTIL I READ INTO IT, IF YOU WANT MY OPINION ON IT, UM, MINE IS BASICALLY MORE IN THE PHYSICAL, UM, THAN IT IS WITH THE MENTAL.
WELL, I, I BELIEVE THAT THIS JUNCTURE, THIS IS JUST MY OPINION, GENTLEMEN, THAT WE PROBABLY NEED A BIT MORE INFORMATION ON THIS.
AND WHAT I WOULD SUGGEST WE DO IS TABLE IT AT THIS POINT IN TIME SINCE THERE'S NO IMMEDIATE RUSH THAT WE HAVE TO GET INTO THAT AND THEN COME BACK AND MAYBE WE CAN WRAP OUR HEAD HANDS AND HEADS AROUND A LITTLE BIT AND COME UP WITH A, WITH A PLAN THAT WOULD SERVE OUR COUNTY THE BEST.
I, I WOULD HOPE YOU KNOW, THAT MAYBE THE TWO ORGANIZATIONS COULD GET TOGETHER.
MAYBE THAT'S NOT THE POSSIBILITY.
MAYBE THAT'S NOT A POSSIBILITY.
WELL, WE WORK TOGETHER ALL THE TIME HERE, HERE, IT'S JUST, THERE'S A POINT OF WHERE WE CAN BECOME THE AUTHORITY AS WELL AS THE SIGNIFICANT PROVIDER.
AND WE THINK THAT THAT IS IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE CITIZENS OF TON COUNTY FOR US.
IF THEY HAVE THAT LOCAL AUTHORITY HERE IN TON COUNTY, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT HAS BEEN BROUGHT TO ME IS, IS WHENEVER THE LAW ENFORCEMENT CALLED CITY OR COUNTY OR WHATEVER ARREST SOMEBODY THAT THEY HAVE TO TAKE A PERSON IN
AND SO I GUESS ONE OF THE QUESTIONS I WOULD'VE IS IF THAT IS THE CASE, WOULD THAT CHANGE IF WE WERE TO GO TO LAKE STREET? I WOULD HOPE SO.
AND I THINK WHERE WE'RE AT IN TERMS OF THAT DISCUSSION IS WE'RE WANTING TO BE THE AUTHORITY OF THOSE SEVEN NORTH STAR COUNTIES.
WE'RE REALLY WANTING TO BECOME THAT AUTHORITY FOR THREE OF THEM, HUNT, GREENVILLE, ROCKWALL, AND
SO WE'RE NOT INTERESTED IN BEING THAT AUTHORITY IN ANY OF THOSE OTHERS.
AND ONE OF THE REASONS IS BECAUSE OF THIS WHOLE ISSUE OF, OF GREEN OAKS BEING, I MEAN IT'S A DALLAS CENTRIC TYPE OF THING.
THE THE HOSPITAL THAT, UH, ERIC REYNOLDS WHO USED TO WORK MANY, MANY YEARS AGO BUT NOW IS, IS OVER HOSPITAL IN GLEN OAKS, IN IN, UH, IN GREENVILLE AND, AND IN DENISON HOSPITAL SITE HOSPITAL THERE AS WELL, IS THAT, UH, WE WOULD PROBABLY TRY TO SHIFT THAT TO GREENVILLE AS OPPOSED TO GREEN OAKS, TO GLEN OAKS.
AND UH, THAT'S WHERE IT WAS FOR MANY YEARS.
AND THEN AS THOSE DOLLARS STARTED GETTING TIED AND VALUE OPTIONS ENDED, THE CONTRACT OAKS AND JUST GREEN OAKS.
AND I THINK IT'S A SYSTEM WHERE YOU GET IN AND OUT FASTER AND EASIER.
AND HERE AGAIN, UH, THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS, WELL, I THINK, I THINK WE HAVE MUCH, I THINK WE HAVE MORE WORK TO DO.
I KNOW, UH, JUDGE CHI, BASED ON THE CONVERSATION I'VE HAD WITH HIM, THAT HE IS A, UH, VERY STAUN SUPPORTER OF THE NORTH STAR AND, UH, NOT HESITANT TO SAY THAT BECAUSE HE'S, HE'S NOT, I MEAN HE'S BEEN INVOLVED IN THAT FROM GIVE GO A MENTAL ILLNESS COURT HERE, HEALTH COURT HERE IN OUR COUNTY, WHICH WE PROVIDE THE SERVICES.
UH, BUT I GENTLEMEN, MY MY BELIEF WOULD BE IF YOU AGREE THAT WE MIGHT TABLE THIS INVOLVED, I'M GOING BE LEAVING FOR VACATION TOMORROW AND I WON'T BE BACK TILL AFTER FIRST.
IT'LL PROBABLY BE FIRST YEAR ANYWAY BEFORE WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH IT.
THIS A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER SHANE.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL MAYOR SAY, AYE.
WE WANT TO DO THE RIGHT DECISION AND WE APPRECIATE THE INTEREST THAT BOTH GROUPS HAVE SHOWN IN CA COUNTY AND WHAT I WANT YOU TO DO IS GET TOGETHER AND COME UP WITH A SUPER DUPER PLAN THAT WE CAN ALL BE HAPPY ABOUT WHATEVER THAT IS.
ALRIGHT, NEXT ITEM IS, NEXT ITEM WILL BE NUMBER SEVEN TO DISCUSS, CONSIDER APPROVING A RESOLUTION TO A ABANDON CLOSE A PORTION OF LAKE
DID I SKIP FOUR? YEAH, TOM, YOU HERE? NO, BUT I THINK SOMEONE, OKAY, ALRIGHT.
YEAH, WHY DON'T WE DO THAT AND THAT WAY YOU CAN GO TO WORK.
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I, SO, BUT I SEE THAT SHE'S SUPPOSED TO, UM, PRESENT TO THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT TRAINING HOURS, BUT SHE'S REQUIRED TO DO AT LEAST 20 HOURS PER YEAR CONTINUING CONTINUATION TRAINING, UH, TO KEEP UP WITH ALL OF HER RULES AND REGULATIONS.I HAVE A COPY OF THE, ACTUALLY THROUGH THIS YEAR, HAS COMPLETED.
THIS DOES NOT REQUIRE APPROVAL.
WHY? THE COURT IS MORE LESS INFORMATIONAL.
IT'S SOMETHING THAT SHE DOES HAVE TO REPORT WITH THE COURT.
UM, SO I WAS HOPING MS NOT THERE BE, IF ONLY 20 HOURS IS REQUIRED, WHY DOES SHE HAVE 90 EXTRA HOURS? WELL, THE 20 HOURS IS REQUIRED, BUT WHEN SHE HAS TO GO TO CONFERENCES, UHHUH, THERE ARE CONFERENCES THAT ARE IN JUNE.
UH, THERE'S OTHER THINGS IN NOVEMBER THAT ALSO DIFFERENT WHAT'S GOING THEN ALSO ANYTHING THAT HAS TO DO WITH ELECTIONS THAT SHE HAS TO GO TO ALSO DOES GO INTO HER CONTINUING EDUCATION.
WELL, MY CONCERN IS, IS THAT, UH, SHE HAS 90 HOURS AND, AND UH, SHE'S BEEN TO, UH, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11 DIFFERENT INSTRUCTIONAL DEALS AT COUNTY EXPENSE.
YOU KNOW, AND THAT'S A, I'VE BEEN, I'VE BEEN SITTING HERE SIGNING OFF ON THE BILLS AND WONDERING WHY ALL THIS, THIS EXTRA EDUCATION IN 90 HOURS JUST SEEMS VISIT SAYS TO ME, I WISH SHE WAS HERE WHERE I COULD ASK HER ABOUT IT.
HERE HER, I KNOW SOME OF THE, ALSO SHE HAS FIVE YEARS TO GET HER CERTIFICATION, HER ACTUAL CERTIFICATION, ALL OF THOSE CLASSES ARE ALSO INCLUDED ON TAX ASSESSOR ASSESS WHEN THEY DO THE CLASSES.
ALL OF THOSE ARE ALSO INCLUDED ON HER EDUCATION LIST.
SO SOME OF THESE ARE ACTUALLY HER CERTIFICATION CLASSES AND CONTINUING EDUCATION.
SO WHEN THEY DO THE TRANSCRIPT, THEY DO A TOTAL TRANSCRIPT AND THEY DON'T I SEE.
YEAH, I JUST, I JUST, BUT I UNDERSTAND.
BUT IN MOST CASES FOR MOST OF THE TAX ASSESSORS, THEY HAVE MANY MORE UNLESS THEY'VE BEEN IN OFFICE FOR MANY YEARS.
AND THAT WAY THEY DON'T HAVE TO DO THEIR CERTIFICATION CLASSES IN ADDITION TO THE CONTINUATION CONTINUING EDUCATION.
OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? I'M GLAD TO SEE THAT SHE'S GETTING THIS, UH, ALL THIS EDUCATION, ESPECIALLY IF IT'S GONNA BE REQUIRED, YOU KNOW, TO GET HER CERTIFICATION.
SHE'S ACTUALLY BROUGHT SOME GOOD THINGS TO THE COURT THAT HAD BEEN MISSED IN THE PAST.
I, I'M ACTUALLY SEE DOESN'T REQUIRE ANY ACTION.
ALL BACK TO ITEM NUMBER SEVEN.
I THINK I JUST UP THROUGH READING ALL THAT.
I THINK WE HAD THIS ON THE AGENDA LAST TIME AND UH, WE PULLED IT OFF.
I BELIEVE MR. CLARK, THAT IS ALL BEEN HANDLED.
I BELIEVE YOU WERE ONE FURTHER PLACES ON THE AGENDA.
YEAH, WE DIDN'T HAVE THE EXACT WORDING DOWN BEFORE CONCERNED ABOUT IT.
SO, UH, IT WAS PRETTY GENERIC ON WORDING LAST TIME.
AND SO AS YOU CAN SEE, THIS ORDER IS DOWN TO APPROXIMATELY SIX 40 FEET.
UH, BOTH THE ORDER RESOLUTION 6 37 0.08 FEET IS WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
A AND CHRIS, YOU'LL COME UP AND GIVE US ANOTHER REFRESHER REPORTS ON TEST.
IT DIDN'T CHANGE THE LAST YOU, IF YOU GOT LAST FOUR MINUTES WITH YOU, THEN, THEN IT SHOULD BE IN THERE.
THE ONLY THING THAT'S CHANGED IS THE WORDING ON THE AGENDA.
THE ONLY THING WORDING ON THE AGENDA, THE ORDER RESOLUTION.
THANK YOU JUDGE COMMISSIONERS, I APPRECIATE IT.
AGAIN, FOR THE RECORD, MY NAME IS CHRIS CUNY.
I HAVE A ENGINEERING BUSINESS, UM, IN, UH, HEATH, TEXAS.
FIRE ADDRESS IS TWO VERIZON FOR HEATH.
UH, I'M THE, UH, ENGINEER FOR THE, UH, THE DISTRICT ENGINEER AND
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THE, THE, UH, CONSULTING ENGINEER FOR THE HEATH GOLFING YACHT CLUB.AND, UH, WE'RE ASKING THAT THE SMALL SECTION, UH, WHICH IS, UH, A HUBBARD DRIVE BE ABANDONED.
UM, THIS IS AN AREA, UM, I'LL SHOW YOU JUST TO REFRESH YOUR MEMORY.
UH, THIS IS THE, THE, UH, BLOW UP OF THE HEAT OFF AND NOT DEVELOPMENT THAT'S UNDERWAY.
UM, THIS AREA IS THE, THE PROPERTY LIMITS, UH, THAT THE DEVELOPMENT, UH, ENCOMPASSES.
THIS IS THE KAUFMAN COUNTY LINE.
SO THERE IS A PIECE OF THE PROJECT THAT WAS IN WITH WITHIN KAUFMAN COUNTY.
IT'S ALL IN THE CITY OF HEATH.
IT'S BEEN ANNEXED INTO THE CITY OF HEATH.
AND IT'S ALSO, THIS PART OF COURSE IS ROCK WALL, THIS SECTION OF HUBBARD DRIVE HAS BEEN ABANDONED.
IN FACT, THIS ROAD HAS BEEN CONSTRUCTED.
AND SO THERE'S THIS, BASICALLY, THIS LAST PIECE, THIS PENINSULA PIECE IS COMPLETELY CUT OFF FROM ANY ACCESS OTHER THAN I GUESS MAYBE BY LARGE OR BOTH.
UM, WE'VE MET WITH THE CITY OF DALLAS.
WE'VE MET WITH THE CORPS OF ENGINEERS.
IN FACT, WE HAVE A PERMIT TO DEMOLISH THAT PART OF THE ROAD OR THAT PART OF THE, THE EMBANKMENT.
THE IDEA IS TO CLEAN THIS AND OPEN THIS COVA, PROVIDE A BETTER VIEW AND BETTER ACCESS FOR VOTING THROUGHOUT THIS AREA.
HOFFMAN COUNTY DOES HAVE, HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE BRIDGE THAT'S OVER THE LAKE.
WHAT YOU'RE ASKING US TO ABANDON IS THE ROAD LEADING UP TO THAT OLD BRIDGE.
AND ACTUALLY THAT THERE'S A QUESTION.
JUST THIS LITTLE PENINSULA, AND AGAIN, THERE'S NO ACCESS FROM THE NORTH ANYMORE.
UM, IT'S JUST BASICALLY A CUTOFF PIECE.
IT'S REALLY KIND OF, WE, WE THINK IT'S JUST A PROCEDURAL DEAL.
UM, THAT ROAD HASN'T BEEN MAINTAINED IN AT LEAST SEVEN YEARS.
UM, THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF, UH, PROBLEMS DOWN THERE IN TERMS OF, UH, A LOT OF, UH, BEEN A LOT OF TRASH AND, YOU KNOW, CLEAN ACRES GO DOWN NEAR ILLEGAL DUMPING, AND IT'S JUST A REAL MESS.
AND WE MET WITH THE CITY OF DALLAS.
THEY WERE THRILLED THAT WE WERE GONNA GO DOWN THERE AND CLOSE IT AND CLEAN IT UP.
SO, UH, WE'RE JUST ASKING THAT THE COURT CONSIDER THAT AND, AND BRING US THAT SO WE CAN GET GOING ON IT.
AND HOW MANY HOMES DO YOU INTEND ON THIS? REMIND US, HOW MANY HOMES DO YOU INTEND THOUGH? UH, YES, SIR.
THERE'S ABOUT, WE, WE ANTICIPATE THERE'S SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 30 TO $45 MILLION WORTH OF PROPERTY VALUE WILL BE ADDED TO THE KAUFMAN COUNTY TAX ROLLS, JUST IN THIS ONE LITTLE AREA.
SO, UM, PRETTY HIGH DOLLAR LOTS? YES, SIR.
THOSE LOTS WILL BE, UH, THEY'RE, UH, THE ONES THAT ARE ON THE WATER WOULD BE MARKETED AT ABOUT ANYWHERE FROM SEVEN 50 TO A MILLION DOLLARS.
AND, UH, UH, THAT'S A LUXURY, YOU KNOW, LUXURY HOME PART OF DEAL THAT IS COMPETITIVE WITH THE, WITH THE AREA AND WHAT WE SEEN THE PROPERTY.
AND I SHOULD SAY IT'S AGAIN, UH, UH, FROM A TAXPAYER STANDPOINT, I THINK IT'S REALLY A, A BENEFIT TO THE, YOU KNOW, YOU, YOU'D ASK WHY YOU DO THIS.
THERE'S REALLY NOTHING THAT THIS, THE COUNTY'S GONNA HAVE TO MAINTAIN IN THERE.
YOU KNOW, LONG, LONG, UH, ENFORCEMENT WILL BE PROVIDED BY THE CITY OF THE, THERE'S NO ROAD IMPROVEMENTS, NO ROAD MAINTENANCE THAT YOU'LL BE REQUIRED FOR.
IT'S JUST YOU BENEFIT FROM THE FACT THAT IT RESIDES IN, IN KAUFMAN COUNTY DISTRICT.
YOU SAID THE PORTION, UH, NORTH OF THAT HAS ALREADY BEEN ABANDONED? YES, SIR.
WAS THAT, UH, DID THAT GO THROUGH COMMISSIONER'S COURT OR DID IT, WAS IT NECESSARY? UH, THE CITY DID.
WE WERE TOLD THAT THE CITY DID NOTIFY, AND WE HAD DOCUMENTS THAT WE PROVIDED AT THE LAST MEETING THAT THEY NOTIFIED KAUFMAN COUNTY, THAT THEY WERE, UM, ANNEXING THAT PROPERTY THAT WAS DONE IN 2007.
AND, UH, THE STATE STATUTES THAT THE CITY ATTORNEY AND PETE JUST, JUST SHOWED US IS THAT THAT WAS ONCE THEY, IN, THEY HAD THE RIGHTS TO THE MAINTENANCE OPERATION CONTROLLER AND OR CLOSING OF THAT SECTION.
IS THE DARK LINE ON THE MAP UP THERE AT THE BOTTOM, IS THAT THE EC LIMITS? UH, SHELBY POINT, YES, SIR.
THAT IS, THAT, THAT IS ESSENTIALLY THE EAST CITY LIMITS LINE, AND IT'S ALSO THE PROPERTY LINES FOR THE PRIVATE PROPERTY.
YOUR TIMEFRAME ON THIS IS APPROXIMATELY WHEN? WELL, WE'VE ALREADY STARTED CONSTRUCTION JUDGE.
UH, IN FACT, WHAT YOU SEE HERE, THIS, WE REFER TO THIS AS TRACK SIX.
UM, THESE ARE, WE CALL THIS THESE, UH, UH, UH, SEVERAL LOTS UP HERE CALLED THE LAKES EDITION.
TRACK SIX HAS ALREADY BEEN CONSTRUCTED.
UH, WE'RE IN THE PROCESS NOW OF RUNNING AND, AND WE, UH, THERE'S ALSO, THERE'S SPINE ROAD THAT CONNECTS FROM SEVEN 40 ALL THE WAY DOWN THE ROAD, COMES AND CUTS THROUGH HERE.
THERE'LL BE A CLUBHOUSE SITE HERE.
THERE'S A, I MENTIONED IN AT THE LAST MEETING, BUT FOR THE PUBLIC, THIS IS A PLANNED 27 HOLE GOLF COURSE COMMUNITY.
THE ROUGH RATING FOR THE FIRST 18 HOMES IS COMPLETE.
UM, WE HAVE, UH, APPROXIMATELY A HUNDRED, UH, 90 HOMES THAT HAVE THE LOTS THAT HAVE BEEN COMPLETED IN THIS PHASE.
UH, WE'RE ANTICIPATING THAT CONSTRUCTION ON THE NEW HOMES WILL START IN, UH, LATE JANUARY, EARLY FEBRUARY.
UH, WE HAVE A MEETING THIS AFTERNOON WITH ENCORE ELECTRIC AT FORNEY, UH, AND THE GAS COMPANY, REALLY
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ALL WE'RE WAITING ON IS THE FRANCHISE UTILITIES THAT THE CITY IS IN THE PROCESS OF GOING THROUGH TO ACCEPT ALL, ALL THE SUBDIVISION IMPROVEMENTS, THE ACCESS THAT YOU'RE COMING FROM SEVENTH, FOURTH TO THEWE HAVE, WE WILL HAVE AN ACCESS THAT COMES IN THROUGH TRAVIS RANCH INTO DEVELOPMENT THROUGH THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL SITE THAT WILL BE BUILT IN, UH, ROCK WALL, ISC AS PART THAT, AS PART OF THAT, WHEN THE TRASH RANCH LAWSUIT WAS SETTLED TO THE CITY.
THE PORTION OF RAILROAD DRIVE THERE, ISN, HE CITY LIMITS.
LAST TIME I WAS THERE, IT JUST ENDED WITH A BARRICADE.
IS THAT GOING TO BE CONNECTED TO THAT SUBDIVISION ROAD SO THAT THEY HAVE ANOTHER WAY OUT? YES, SIR.
UH, TO EXPLAIN, UH, THIS SECTION, THIS ROAD WILL BE ABANDONED, UM, THIS PART OF IT OF HUBBARD DRIVE.
AND, AND, AND THIS IS A BRAND NEW 37 FOOT WIDE, UH, STREET THAT LOOPS AROUND THROUGH HERE.
AND, UH, MR. WHITTLE, THE DEVELOPERS HERE, HE OWNS ALL OF THESE PROPERTIES AND HAS GIVEN UP THAT THAT RIGHT TO THE, TO THE PROPERTY AND THE HOMES THAT ARE HERE, THERE'S ACTUALLY WILL BE A CONCRETE ROAD THAT WILL BE APPROVED TO GIVE ALL THE OTHER NEIGHBORS, UH, ACCESS BACK TO, TO HUBBARD DRIVES.
SO HUBBARD DRIVE WILL BE CONNECTED TO THAT NEW ROAD? I CAN'T SEE THAT.
SO IT'LL STILL BE A DEAD END ROAD? UH, YES, SIR.
I THINK THE LAST MEETING THAT YOU SAID IT WOULD BE CONNECTED.
WELL, THERE'S A QUESTION ON WHETHER OR NOT THE, THE CITY IS A, WE'RE STILL TRYING TO FIGURE OUT IF THEY WANT US TO CONNECT IT.
WE, WE'VE AGREED, AND PART OF THE DEVELOPER'S AGREEMENT THAT WE'RE GONNA IMPROVE THIS, OF ALL OF THESE RESIDENTS HAVE ACCESS.
UM, THERE'S TALK, THERE'S OPPORTUNITY CONNECTED HERE.
WE'RE REALLY WAITING FOR THE CITY ENGINEER TO TELL US HOW THEY WANT US TO DO THAT.
BUT AGAIN, THIS, WE'RE IMPROVE THIS SECTION, A CONCRETE SECTION ALL THE WAY UP.
I'M, I'M JUST THINKING FOR EMERGENCY SERVICES YES, SIR.
STANDPOINT, AND I THINK PROBABLY WHERE WE'RE HEADED IS THERE WILL PROBABLY BE AN EMERGENCY ACCESS THAT'LL, THAT MAY HAVE A, A KNOX BOX SO THAT IF THE FIRE DEPARTMENT NEEDS TO GET THERE, THEY CAN'T CONNECT IT.
BUT FROM A SECURITY STANDPOINT, SAFETY, THEY, THEY'LL, YOU KNOW, NORMALLY BECAUSE THAT'S, THAT'S MY MAIN CONCERN IS THOSE PEOPLE BEING ON A DEAD END ROAD.
AND I KNOW IT'S BEEN THAT FOR A LONG TIME.
BUT, UM, WELL, I SHOULD SAY COMMISSIONER GIL OR FUTURE COMMISSIONER GILBERT FOR ROCKWELL COUNTY, HE LIVES UP HERE.
HE'S BEEN VERY SUPPORTIVE OF THIS PLAN, SO I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK FOR HIM, BUT HE'S OBVIOUSLY
THE SIX 40 FEET, I WOULD, THE LAW STATES IT NEEDS TO BE AT LEAST THREE YEARS, BUT IT SOUNDS OH, YES, SIR.
AND IT'S, AND THE, THE OTHER THING, UH, TO BE CLEAR ON SO THAT THE RECORD IS CLEAR THAT THE 640 FEET OF ROAD IS NOT AND CANNOT BE USED RIGHT NOW.
BUT, WELL, I GUESS IT COULD BE USED THAT YOU COULD DRIVE SOUTH, BUT YOU CAN STOP BECAUSE YOU RUN INTO THE WATER.
IS THAT RIGHT? WELL, YES, SIR.
I MEAN, RIGHT NOW YOU CAN'T GET TO IT FROM THE, FROM THE NORTH.
AND YOU'D HAVE TO GO THROUGH PRIVATE PROPERTY TO GET THERE.
IT, IT REALLY, AGAIN, REALLY IS JUST THIS AREA.
AGAIN, THE ROADS HAVE BEEN APPROVED THROUGH HERE.
SO THIS, THIS AREA HAS ALREADY BEEN REMOVED.
IT'S, IT'S THE PART, THE 640 FEET SOUTH OF THE HEATH CITY LIMITS.
I JUST WANT MAKE SURE THE RECORD SO WE CAN ACT ON IT TODAY.
IF, IF THE COURT WISHES TO DO THAT, DOES IT REQUIRE UNANIMOUS VOTE COURT? YES.
IT REQUIRES A UNANIMOUS VOTE THAT, YES.
OTHER QUESTIONS, JUDGE, IF I COULD ENCLOSE THE, I I APPRECIATE Y'ALL DOING THIS.
THIS IS KIND OF CONFUSING AND, AND, UH, AGAIN, WE, UH, UH, CERTAINLY WANTED TO INFORM YOU OF EVERYTHING AND, AND IF, IF WANTED TO, TO TAKE CARE OF THIS ISSUE FOR SOME TIME.
UM, WE USED TO APPEAL TO Y'ALL'S COMMON SENSE THAT THERE'S A PIECE, A ROAD OUT THERE THAT NOBODY'S USED, NOBODY'S BEEN ABLE TO MAINTAIN.
RIGHT NOW, THERE'S NO ACCESS IF YOU WANTED TO MAINTAIN IT OR USE IT.
IT DOESN'T SERVE ANY PURPOSE FOR THE PUBLIC AS, AS FAR AS WE CAN SEE.
WE APPRECIATE YOUR CONSIDERATION.
THANK, THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.
GENTLEMEN, WHAT'S YOUR, UH, WHAT'S YOUR PLEASURE? WELL, I HAVE MR. CUNEY WHO JUST SPOKE.
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YOU'RE THE DEVELOPER.DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU'D LIKE TO ADD TO THIS? JUST, JUST ONE POINT.
I'M ROCKVILLE HILL BOX 3 6 9 ROCK WALL OF THE FOUR PROPERTIES THAT ARE ON THE NORTH SIDE THAT ARE NOT INSIDE OF THIS PROJECT.
UH, OF THOSE FOUR, UH, I OWN ONE OF THOSE PERSONALLY.
UH, SECOND ONE I HAVE UNDER CONTRACT QUOTES.
UH, THE THIRD ONE IS OWNED BY MR. MRS, MR. MRS. HO.
MR. HOGUE WAS HERE AT THE LAST MEETING TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF, OF THIS ROAD GOING AWAY.
UH, THAT HIS OPINION WAS THAT WHAT HE TOLD ME IS THE BEST THING THAT EVER HAPPENED BECAUSE IT IS JUST AN ABSOLUTE DUMPING GROUND.
AND AS I SOME LAST TIME JUST WHISKEY BOTTLES AND DRUG
AND, UH, THEN THE FOURTH PROPERTY AFFECTED THIS IN KAUFMAN COUNTY.
AS MR. KEENY SAID, HIS UH, UH, COMMISSIONER ELECT LEE GILBERT ROCKWELL COUNTY.
AND HE IS ABSOLUTELY IN FAVOR OF THIS.
THAT'S ALL THAT I HAVE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON THIS PARTICULAR ITEM.
WE HAVE A MOTION ON ITEM SEVEN TO ABANDON THE CLOSE SIX 40 FEET SOUTH HEATH CITY LIMITS.
I HAVE A SECOND FROM, UH, COMMISSIONER HANNING.
DO WE HAVE FURTHER DISCUSSION? I THINK I'D LIKE TO SEE COMMISSIONER ELECT, UH, PHILLIPS SEE THIS THROUGH NEXT YEAR WHEN HE'S IN OFFICE.
SEE IT THROUGH IN THE SENSE THAT I, I THINK HE'S GOT SOME IDEAS WITH THE CITY OF DALLAS.
I, I MOTION, WE GOT ONE MOTION ON THE FLOOR.
WE'LL NEED TO VOTE ON IT FIRST, BUT THAT'S ANOTHER MOTION.
SO, UH, ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TO SAY? REMEMBER AGAIN, I'VE TAKING UNANIMOUS VOTE.
MOTIONS FAILS BECAUSE WE DO NOT HAVE A, UH, UNANIMOUS VOTE.
OKAY, NOW JUDGE WOOD, WHAT WAS THE, WHAT WAS THE VOTE? TWO, FOUR.
IT ONLY TAKES ONE TO KILL IT, IT HAD TO BE UNANIMOUS VOTE.
DID, CAN YOU VOTE, JUDGE? YES, I VOTED FOR IT.
YEAH, I, I'D LIKE TO SAY THAT.
WHY WOULD YOU VOTE AGAINST THAT $35 MILLION? CAN YOU TELL US WHY ANYBODY WOULD VOTE AGAINST THAT $35 MILLION TAXABLE INCREASE FOR KAMAN COUNTY? WHERE IS THE NEGATIVE IN THAT? I'M NOT VOTING FOR IT.
I'M NOT VOTING AGAINST THAT FOR NEW COMMISSIONER.
I THINK I'VE HEARD THE NEW COMMISSIONER.
IS THAT NOT CORRECT? LEMME ASK THE NEW COMMISSIONER.
MR. PHILLIPS, ARE YOU IN FAVOR OF THIS OR NOT? UH, MOTIONS ON THE TABLE.
WE, WE CAN READDRESS THIS AFTER THE FIRST YEAR HISTORY, WHATEVER DO, SO I GUESS THAT'S PRETTY WELL THE GATES, I GUESS WE, IS THAT I THAT WE TABLE ITEM NUMBER EIGHT? ITEM NUMBER EIGHT.
ANY MOTION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY ITEM NUMBER NINE IS TO DISCUSS, CONSIDER APPROVAL OF THE FINAL PHASE FOR OLD COUNTY PRECINCT.
MR. MANNING HAD ASKED THAT THIS BE PLACED ON, THIS IS THE PHASE FOUR OF
ALL THE PAPERWORK AND, AND FEES HAVE BEEN PAID.
DID WE APPROVE THIS? WE SUPPOSED TO HAVE MY, I BELIEVE THEY, I BELIEVE THEY'RE IN THE WORKS.
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THEY'VE ALWAYS TAKE ALL OUR PAPERWORK.RIGHT OUTSIDE, RIGHT SOUTH GROUND.
A MOTION FROM MANNING TO APPROVE THIS FINAL FLAT PHASE FOUR FOR ACRES COUNTY.
MR. LONG, YOU DO NOT HAVE A MILE AMOUNT.
YOU SAY COMMISSIONER, LONG COMMISSIONER SWORN.
WHAT, UH, IS IT? UH, WE DO NOT HAVE AN OFFICIAL MY COPY, BUT THIS I BELIEVE IS WE, THAT THAT'S THE ENGINEER'S.
THAT WOULD NOT BE A REASON, NOT, THAT WOULD NOT BE.
UH, WE HAVE A MOTION FOR COMMISSIONER TO ACCEPT ITEM NUMBER NINE.
DO WE HAVE A SECOND? I COMMISSIONER SHANE SECOND.
ANYBODY? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
OPPOSED? ITEM NUMBER, ITEM NUMBER 10 IS TO, UH, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACCEPTING BEDRICK LANE IS THAT SAME ROAD, THE SAME ROAD AND DINING ACRES AND THE
AND MR. OAKFIELD, I BELIEVE YOU SIGNED UP TO ADDRESS THIS, UH, ITEM IF YOU'D LIKE TO COME UP.
I'M RONNIE OLDFIELD, 8 21 CIRCLE DRIVE.
CAROL, UH, I WANT TO BRING WISHES FOR MERRY CHRISTMAS TO THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT.
TOUGH BUSINESS IN THE HOLIDAY SEASON.
THE, YOU KNOW, AS WE LISTENED TODAY, AND I THINK THAT AS I SIT HERE, JUST AS A CITIZEN, YOU KNOW, RESPECTING THE AUTHORITY OF THE COURT TO CONDUCT THE COUNTY'S BUSINESS, YOU KNOW, WE, WE HEAR FROM CONCERNED CITIZENS ABOUT ROADS CONSTANTLY.
AND, YOU KNOW, THROUGH TIME OUT OF ECONOMIC NECESSITY, UH, MILLAGE HAS FOR OUT, UH, ABNORMAL TAX MILLAGE THAT'S ALLOCATED TO ROAD AND BRIDGE HAS BEEN RESTRUCTURED, UH, TO MEET OTHER COUNTY NEEDS.
AND, AND WE ALL KNOW IT IS, IT'S REFLECTED IN, IN THE ANGST OF THE POPULATION WHERE WE HAVE, UH, REDUCED SERVICES TO THE ROAD.
AND, AND CONSISTENTLY WE'RE HAVING DISCUSSIONS THAT I HEAR, UM, YOU KNOW, REGARDING WHETHER A PARTICULAR ROAD IS ACTUALLY IN THE COUNTY ROAD SYSTEM.
SO I SEE, YOU KNOW, FROM THE TAXPAYER'S PERSPECTIVE IS, IS MAYBE THAT, THAT THE TIME IS RIGHT AS, AS, UH, LAST UH, SESSION OF THE COURT WHERE THE COMMISSIONERS COMMIT TO, YOU KNOW, LET'S FIRST IDENTIFY ALL OF THE COUNTY ROADS, YOU KNOW, LET'S, LET'S GET THOSE ISSUES SOLVED FIRST.
AND THEN WHEN PEOPLE WANT TO ADD A ROAD INTO THE COUNTY SYSTEM, PERHAPS A A A A PROCESS COULD BE DEVELOPED, YOU KNOW, WHERE THERE'S A, A PARTICULAR SET OF STEPS TO GO THROUGH.
UM, 'CAUSE BASED UPON MY UNDERSTANDING, IF, IF, IF THE, THE CITIZENS OF THAT OWN PROPERTY ON A ROAD WANT TO BE IN THE COUNTY'S SYSTEM, UH, THEY HAVE TO AGREE TO PAY THE COST TO UPGRADE THAT ROAD TO THE COUNTY SPECIFICATIONS, AND THEN THEY HAVE TO AGREE TO REPAY THE COUNTY FOR THOSE COSTS OVER SOME PERIOD OF TIME THROUGHOUT WAR TAXES.
SO, YOU KNOW, IT WOULD SEEM HERE AT THE END OF THE YEAR TO, TO MAKE, UH, THIS COURT'S LIFE EASIER THAT, YOU KNOW, WE COULD HEAR THESE, UM, CITIZENS OUT THAT, THAT WANT TO ADD THESE ROADS TO THE COUNTY SYSTEM.
BUT THEN MAYBE, UM, IN 2015, YOU KNOW, GO THROUGH A A, A PROCESS WHERE WE DEVELOP
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A, WE COULD MAKE SURE THAT IF THE COUNTY DOES TAKE ROADS IN TO THE COUNTY SYSTEM AND DOES EXPEND FUNDS TO REPAIR THOSE ROADS, THAT WE MAKE SURE THAT ON A TIMELY BASIS THOSE COSTS ARE ADDING TO THE ADMIRAL TAX RECORDS.CAN WE REGARD I THANK THE COURT.
JUST FOR YOUR INFORMATION, I HAVE TALKED WITH THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY AS WELL AS MR. LONG AND HIS OFFICE, AND THEY'RE WORKING ON THAT EVEN AS WE SPEAK, THERE IS A PROCEDURE ALREADY IN PLACE THAT HAS BEEN FOLLOWED IN SOME INSTANCES, AND IN SOME INSTANCES IT HAS NOT BEEN FOLLOWED.
SO WE DO HAVE A NUMBER OF ROADS, I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY THAT WILL NEED TO BE ADMITTED INTO THE, UH, COUNTY ROAD SYSTEM OFFICIALLY, UH, THAT ARE NOT THERE YET.
BUT DA'S OFFICE IS WORKING ON THE PROCESS TO GET THAT DONE.
SO I STARTED OUT BY SAYING THIS COMMISSIONER'S COURT HAS DONE GREAT WORK AND WE'RE ALL THANKFUL FOR THAT.
AND I BELIEVE WE ALSO HAVE MRS. UH, MARA HERE TODAY FROM THANK YOU.
I, I'M HERE ASKING FOR THE SAME REASON THAT WE'RE HOPING THAT OUR ROAD CAN BE TAKEN INTO THE MAINTENANCE SYSTEM.
ALL WE'RE ASKING FOR IS, IS, UH, HERE LIKE FIVE FAMILIES THAT LIVE ON THE ROAD AND IT'S LESS THAN A MILE LONG.
AND WE'VE, YOU KNOW, TRIED TO TALK TO COMMISSIONER
THAT WAS WHEN MR. ROUND WAS STILL AN OFFICE AND THERE WAS AN OPINION OBTAINED.
AND THAT OPINION BY THOSE ATTORNEYS WAS THAT OUR ROAD WAS, DID NOT NEED ANY KIND OF SUBDIVISION REQUIREMENTS AND THAT IT WAS UP TO THE DISCRETION OF COMMISSIONER'S COURT TO TAKE IT IN COUNTY MAINTENANCE.
AND SO IT WAS PASSED, TALKED ABOUT APPROXIMATELY $2,000 A YEAR TO MAINTAIN GRAVEL ROAD GRAVE AND MAINTAIN.
WE ARE ONLY ASKING FOR GRAVEL ROAD.
AND, UH, WE, YOU KNOW, HAVE GOTTEN TOGETHER OVER THE YEARS AND TRYING TO MAINTAIN IT.
BUT WE DON'T HAVE THE EQUIPMENT, THE RESOURCES AND UH, WE WOULD LIKE FOR OUR COMMISSIONER TO REALLY HELP US GET THAT.
AND WE'RE ACTUALLY, JUST TO KIND OF ONE LAST THING IS THAT WE'RE, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LONG RANGE RIFLE RANGE WITHIN OUR COMPANY, WHICH IS A GREAT CONCERN.
SAFETY, EMERGENCY, VEHICLES SENSE.
OKAY, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR COMMENTS.
UH, SO, UH, COMMISSIONER, THIS WAS, UH, UH, CLARK, THIS WAS PLACED ON THE AGENDA OF YOUR REQUEST.
DO YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS REGARDING YES, I PLACED ON THE AGENDA AND MR. RESPECT, MR. ROSA, GO HERE.
IT'S GONNA BE WHETHER HE WANTS TO DO THAT, EVERY PRECINCT, BUT IT SEEMED THAT WE, WE WENT THROUGH THE PROCESS THAT
WE FOLLOWED THAT, UH, TRANSPORTATION CODE TO IDENTIFY AND ALL THE COUNTY ROADS AT THAT TIME.
IT CAN BE AMENDED NEXT A ORDER OF THE COURT TO AMEND IT AND WHICH IS, I BELIEVE IS WHAT, YOU KNOW, SHE WAS REFERENCING IN THERE AND I PUT THE BEDROOM, BEDROOM LANE.
I WAS AGAINST IT FROM WAY, FROM WAY BACK.
AND I HAD THAT ON THERE BECAUSE CINDY ROAD AND DIAMOND ACRES HAVE EXACTLY THE SAME ISSUE.
THEY'RE SHORT ROADS, THEY'RE IMPASSABLE TO GET DOWN.
YOU CAN'T GET MONDS DOWN THERE, A FIRE TRUCK DOWN THROUGH THERE.
AND THEY'VE BEEN AFTER ME FOREVER TO TRY AND GET THOSE ROADS FIXED.
AND I TOLD 'EM WE COULDN'T DO IT BECAUSE IT WOULDN'T MEET OUR STANDARDS.
BUT BECAUSE, UH, SOME COMMISSIONERS HAD RECENTLY JUST ARBITRARY TAKE A ROAD IN EACH LANE IS A PRIVATE ROAD.
IN MY OPINION, IT WAS TAKEN IN THE COUNTY MAINTENANCE SYSTEM.
RED FOX LANE WOULD GO TO YOUR SAND PIT WAS RECENTLY TAKEN IN TO THE COUNTY MAINTENANCE SYSTEM.
JUST BECAUSE THE COMMISSIONER SAYS IT COULD BE TAKEN IN.
IF WE CAN DO THAT, WE CAN TAKE IN VETERAN LAND AS YOU WANT TO.
WE CAN TAKE IN LAND, WE CAN TAKE IN CITY ROAD AND CITY AND NINE ACRES TO ADDRESS THE RED FOX LANE ISSUE.
I'VE GOT A AFFIDAVIT ABOUT IT.
COMMISSIONER AT THE TIME SAYING IT WAS, HAD BEEN MAINTAINED BY COUNTY 96.
THE COUNTY DOES NOT SPEND A DIME COMMISSIONER FOR ANYTHING BESIDES BEDRICK.
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I'M, I'M NOT SAYING YOU CAN'T DISCUSS IT PRIVATELY.I, SO I JUST SAYING I WAS JUST, HE DIDN'T WAY I, I UNDERSTAND.
I DIDN'T REALIZE, JUDGE, I MAKE A MOTION.
THE TABLE THERE, THERE, THERE ARE REGULATIONS, RULES, TRANSPORTATION CODE, UH, 2 53 THAT ADDRESSES THE IMPROVEMENT OF SUBDIVISION ROADS, ACCESS ROADS, OR PART OF SUBDIVISION ROAD.
AND I THINK BETTER LANE, THE OTHER ROADS IN YOUR PRECINCT I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH.
UH, BUT AS FAR AS THE ONE THAT YOU PUT ON
ONE PROPERTY WAS DIVIDED INTO FOUR MORE AND IT WAS NOT PUT ON AS A DIVISION ROAD.
SO IT WASN'T BROUGHT UP TO CODE.
THERE'S A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN DIVISION ROAD AND THIS STATE ROAD THAT YOU BROUGHT IN.
LISA RED FOX LANE, EAST LANE, WHICH BY THE WAY, EAST LANE IS THE ONLY ROAD THAT GOES TO COMMISSIONER SHANE'S PROPERTY TO LOCK GATE THAT THE COUNTY'S MAINTAINED IT PREVIOUSLY.
AND THERE ROAD 3 33 A THAT YOU CANNOT FIND ON A MAPCO OR ANYTHING ELSE.
IT'S GOT SEVERAL HOUSES ON IT THAT THE COUNTY PUT ON THERE.
THE COUNTY'S BEEN MAINTAINING IT ALONG WITH ER ROAD LANE IS A SUBDIVISION.
THE CANS BEEN MAINTAINING YET.
I'M NOT SAYING IF YOU'RE RIGHT, YOU HAVEN'T MAINTAINED IN YOUR PART OVER THERE.
WHICH I DON'T THINK THAT'S ON.
JUDGE, MAY I SPEAK PLEASE? YOU COME FORWARD.
HI, I'M ANNETTE LAR AND I LIVE DOWN ON BEDROOM PLAIN.
AND FROM MY UNDERSTANDING, WHEN ROSEANNE'S MOTHER WAS ALIVE, IT WAS MAINTAINED BY THE COUNTY SOMEWHERE.
IT SLIPPED THROUGH THE CRACKS.
WE HAD OUR MEETING, IT WAS VOTED IN THE COUNTY CAME OUT AND GRADED IT TWICE AND THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN IT WAS NO LONGER BEING MAINTAINED AGAIN BECAUSE OF SOME, SOMETHING THAT HAPPENED.
I GUESS BEHIND THE SCENES WE'RE A TAXPAYER.
I GUESS WHY I GET REALLY CONFUSED AS A TAXPAYER.
WHY, WHY IS MY ROAD NOT BEING MAINTAINED YET? MY NEIGHBOR WHO HAS ONE HOME JUST DOWN THE ROAD IS BEING MAINTAINED.
WE HAVE A SERIOUS ISSUE WITH THIS GUN RANGE THAT IS READY TO GO IN OPERATION.
THE JURY FOUND THAT IT IS OFFICIALLY A CONSIDERED A PRIVATE SHOOTING RANGE SO THEY CAN GO SHOOT ON THEIR PROPERTY, BUT IT DOES NOT MEET THE SAFETY STANDARDS.
BUT THEY CAN STILL GO SHOOT ONE OF THESE STATES.
SOMEONE IS GOING TO GET SHOT AND AN EMERGENCY VEHICLE IS NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO COME AND GET ONE OF US IF IT'S ONE OF US.
AND I THINK THERE'S A REAL ISSUE TO CONSIDER HERE, FAR BEYOND JUST THE MAINTENANCE OF THE ROAD.
THESE PEOPLE ARE SHOOTING HIGH POWERED WEAPONS, ASSAULT RIFLE WEAPONS.
OUR NEIGHBORS MOVED OUT BECAUSE SHE WAS OUT BY THE POND WITH HER CHILDREN.
WHEN A BULLET RICOCHET HIT ONE OF THE BRANCHES, THEY SINCE MOVED.
AND TODAY AN EMERGENCY VEHICLE CANNOT, A POLICE OFFICER CANNOT.
AND YOU CAN JUST WRITE, CANNOT GET DOWN THAT ROAD.
I CANNOT DRIVE MY CAR DOWN THAT ROAD RIGHT NOW I'M HAVING TO USE MY SON'S JEEP.
I'VE GOT AN IMPORTANT JOB TO DO EVERY DAY.
HERE ARE THREATS AND I HAVE TO BE ABLE TO GET DOWN THAT ROAD.
I DIDN'T KNOW, I DON'T WANNA BE DISRESPECTFUL, BUT JUDY COMMISSIONER ZA ISN'T WILLING PAID FOR YEARS TO MAINTAIN THAT REVENUE.
IT'S NOT A, IT'S NOT, IT'S ACCEPTED.
WELL AND IT HAS BEEN APPARENTLY AT ONE TIME TWICE THAT I KNOW OF.
BUT YOU HAVE ONE MAIN ROAD THAT FILTERS OFF TO FOUR DIFFERENT PRIVATE DRIVEWAYS.
IT'S AN EXTENSION OF COUNTY ROAD 2 83.
IT'S RIGHT ACROSS THE ROAD FROM COUNTY ROAD 2 83 OFF THE 25 70 DAYS.
OKAY, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
ARE YOU SAYING IT'S ILLEGAL TO WORK ON ROADS? NOT ON COUNTY MAINTENANCE SYSTEM? I'M SAYING WE'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO TAKE A ROAD MAINTENANCE SYSTEM UNLESS THROUGH YOU JUST TOLD HER SHE COULDN'T WORK ON, YOU TOLD HER YOU COULDN'T WORK ON HER ROAD WASN'T COUNTY MAINTENANCE SYSTEM.
OKAY, YOU DIDN'T THINKING THAT WAY.
I'M SAYING IT'S ILLEGAL TO WORK ON A ROAD THAT'S NOT ON THE COUNTY MAINTENANCE SYSTEM.
I WANT TO SAY THAT THERE ARE ROADS BEING WORKED ON TODAY THAT ARE NOT IN THE COUNTY MAINTENANCE SYSTEM.
AND AT THAT I'M PRETTY SURE THAT THAT IS ILLEGAL.
BUT IF WE COULD, ONE COMMISSIONER COULD
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DO IT.WHY CAN'T OTHER COMMISSIONER DO? JUST AGAIN, I'M GOING THROUGH THE ORDER OF THE COURT.
IF THE COURT DETERMINES IT DESERVES A PUBLIC PURPOSE, WE CAN TAKE IT IN.
I'M SAYING THAT IT WOULD SERVE A PUBLIC PURPOSE TO FIX THESE ROADS WHERE AN AMBULANCE OR A FIRE TRUCK TO GET DOWN THESE DOWN ROADS.
SHOULD WE TAKE IN EVER ROAD THAT SOMEONE PUTS IN TO SUBDIVIDE THEIR PROPERTY COURT DECISION? OKAY, LET'S GO BACK TO THE MATTER.
I AND IT VERY SPECIFICALLY TALKS ABOUT CONSIDER ACCEPTING BEDROOM LANE, SAME ROAD, ROAD AND DIME MAKE INTO COUNTY MAINTENANCE SYSTEM.
I BELIEVE WE HAVE MOTION ON TABLE TO TABLE THAT FROM COMMISSIONER
I WOULD POINT OUT THAT, UH, AND COMMISSIONER, I THINK YOU WOULD AGREE THAT JUST ON THE AGENDA LIKE THIS DOESN'T MEAN IT CAN BE ACCEPTED SYSTEM.
IF THE COURT COULD ACCEPTED ME, WROTE IN THE COUNTY MAINTENANCE SYSTEM, EVEN WITHOUT IT BEING BROUGHT UP TO COUNTY STANDARDS.
BUT SHE SAID THE ATTORNEY JIM ALLISON WROTE JERRY A LETTER STATING THAT YES, I THOUGHT THE SYSTEM WE HAD IN PLACE AND HELPED JOHN.
I THOUGHT THE SYSTEM IN PLACE REQUIRED OUR COUNTY ENGINEER TO GO OUT AND ACCEPT THE ROAD BEFORE IT WOULD BE ADMITTED INTO THE COUNTY SYSTEM.
IT NEEDS TO BE UP TO THE COUNTY STANDARDS.
I JUST, ACCORDING TO MR. ALLISON, IT DOES NOT HAVE TO GET THE COUNTY STANDARDS.
BUT THIS IS WHERE, THIS IS WHY I FILED AGAINST IT BEFORE.
IF YOU ACCEPT A ROAD THAT DOES NOT MEET COUNTY STANDARDS, YOU HAVE TO BE WILLING TO ACCEPT A ROAD FROM A DEVELOPER THAT DOESN'T MEET COUNTY STANDARDS.
'CAUSE YOU TREAT EVERYBODY, YOU TREAT EVERYBODY THE SAME.
WELL, WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR IN THE SECOND AND, UH, I, I GO AHEAD AND VOTE ON THAT HERE JUST A MOMENT.
BUT AS I SAID AT THE LAST MEETING, WE DO HAVE ROADS.
I'M NOT SURE HOW MANY, BUT WE DO HAVE ROADS THAT WE ARE CURRENTLY MAINTAINING THAT ARE NOT OFFICIALLY COUNTY ROADS AND THOSE ARE THE ONES THAT WE'VE GOT TO GET CLEANED UP AS FAST AS WE CAN.
I THINK THE DA'S OFFICE WORKING PUBLIC WORKS TO GET VOTES IDENTIFIED.
MY BELIEF IS THAT NEEDS TO BE CORRECTED AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE.
IT'S GONE PERHAPS TOO LONG WITHOUT BEING DONE.
AND, AND ALL OF YOU, I'VE ASKED TO IN THE NEW COMMERS AS THEY COME IN TO REVIEW ALL OF THEIR ROLES AND MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE TRULY COUNTY ROAD.
WE HAVE A MAP THAT WE DID BACK IN 2007.
WE HAVE A LIST OF ROLES THAT WAS OFFICIALLY APPROVED.
WE'VE ADDED A FEW ROAD SINCE THAT TIME OFFICIALLY IN THIS COURT, UH, ALONG BEFORE I GOT HERE AND LONG BEFORE SOME OF THE REST OF THEM GOT HERE.
BUT THERE HAVE BEEN VERY FEW, A FEW OF THOSE.
BUT WE DO HAVE SOME THAT I THINK DO NEED TO OFFICIALLY, UH, BE, BE ADDED, UH, AT THIS EVEN IF AT THIS LATE DATE.
SO MOTION ON THE FLOOR IS TO, UH, TABLE THIS FOR FURTHER DISCUSSION.
AYE MR. SHANE, ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
COMMISSIONER, UH, CLARK, UH, OPPOSE THIS.
SO IT'S A THREE ONE VOTE AND UH, WE'LL MOVE ON NOW TO, UH, ITEM 11.
AND MR. UH, SEBASTIAN, I BELIEVE YOU'RE NOT READY TO, YOU'D LIKE TO THAT AS WELL.
I WOULD LIKE TO THAT I'D LIKE TO YOUR SUPPORT WORKING WITH ISSUE.
I APPRECIATE SERVICE AND JUDGE, I LIKE TO TABLE THAT.
WE WE'RE, WE'RE HAVING ANOTHER MEETING TODAY TO FINALIZE THAT AND, AND NOT REALLY PREPARED TO DISCUSS IT TOO MUCH.
WE HAVEN'T NOTIFIED THE, UH, OTHER VENDORS OF DECISION.
SO I TO THAT NEXT WEEK, I'M SAYING YOU'VE HAD SEVERAL MEETINGS WITH, UH, SEVERAL OF THE, OF THE, UH, PLACEHOLDERS THAT WILL BE INVOLVED IN THIS.
AND YOU PICKED UP A LOT OF TIME AND EVERYTHING, UH, EVERYTHING'S BEEN FOLLOWED ACCORDING TO STATUTES AS FAR AS THE PROCUREMENT IS CONCERNED.
AND THE COMMITTEE WORKED HARD ON THIS AND TODAY, ONE O'CLOCK FINALIZE IT.
THIS SO I CAN BRING STUFF IN COURT TO LOOK AT.
JUST HAVE A BETTER PICTURE OF WHAT WE'RE DOING.
OKAY? HAVE A MOTION TO TABLE ITEM NUMBER 11.
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SHANE, THAT MOTION COMMISSIONER, ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.A NUMBER 12 IS TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER A BID, UH, NUMBER 15 DASH OH FOUR ANNUAL CONTRACT FOR VARIOUS MATERIAL.
UH, GENTLEMEN, I THINK YOU HAVE A COPY OF THIS.
PRETTY MUCH SAME THING WE'VE DONE LAST PAST FEW YEARS.
YOU'LL, WE HAVE A PRIMARY SECONDARY AND AN ALTERNATE PRECINCT DEPENDING ON YOUR LOCATION AND PROXIMITY TO THE PLANT AND PRECINCT.
MORE ATE WHERE YOU OUTTA THE COUNTY.
UH, BASED ON THE, WHAT WE'VE GOT HIGHLIGHTED ON THERE.
I, I MAKE RECOMMENDATION TO ALL THE VENDORS, UH, VIA PRIMARY, SECONDARY OR, OR ALTERNATE.
DID ANYBODY BE AT P GROUND? IT IS NOT.
I THINK LAST TIME WE, WE USED MUCH LESS PRODUCT.
DID YOU MAKE CONTACT WITH MAX TRUCK COMPANY THAT I DIDN'T TO YOU? THEY, THEY WELL BACK I GAVE INFORMATION TO MY STAFF NAME THAT THEY DID MAIL THAT BID.
THEY DID GIVE THEM AN OPPORTUNITY.
WHAT'S YOUR PLEASURE ON ITEM NUMBER 12? WHAT, UH, WHAT SHOULD WE DO FOR THE, IF AVAILABLE, YOU TELL ME IN THE PAST THERE'S BEEN FOLKS WHO DIDN'T WANNA USE B RAIL AND WANNA USE THAT GRADE FIVE OR YOU TELL ME YOU HAVE AN NEED FOR IT.
SO WE, WE CAN ASK FOR BID MATERIAL FOR MATERIALS OTHER THAN SHEET.
LEMME KNOW WHAT YOU GUYS NEED.
IT DOESN'T HAVE MR. SHANE MAKES A MOTION THAT WE AWARD THE BID.
HAVE A SECOND FROM COMM MANNING.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY A.
CAN YOU REWORD THAT FOR ME? YOUR PRESENTED IN, I RECOMMEND AWARD TO ALL VENDORS VIA PRIMARY, SECONDARY, OR ALTERNATE? PER.
WE'LL TAKE ABOUT A FIVE MINUTE BREAK AND WE'LL COME BACK.
I, I DIDN'T WANNA YOU BUT I ASK QUESTIONS.
ITEM NUMBER 13 IS TO DISCUSS CONSIDER LINE ITEM TRANSFER.
IS THERE ANYTHING YOU WANNA ASK QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT ONE? KIND OF HUGE.
$3 MILLION ON YOU GOT ANY QUESTIONS IN LATIN OR SOMETHING? WHAT'S THAT FOR? UH, IT'S FOR $2,920,000.
IT IS FOR A ROPE ON COMING OUT HERE.
PHONE ONE TWENTY EIGHT FOR CHERYL SPUR FIVE 50.
UM, THE STATE SENT COFFEE COUNTY A CHECK 4,100 SOME DOLLARS TO PAY FOR FIVE WITNESSES IN THE ERIC WILLIAMS. SO IT WAS JUST AN IN AND OUT AND UH, THE REGIONAL PUBLIC DEFENDER'S OFFICE THAT THEY DIDN'T ALL THAT MONEY REFUND IT TO WITH THE TICKET SHOWING HOW MUCH THEY DID.
AND I HAVE TO THE STATE BUT I HAVEN'T GOTTEN STUFF YET STILL IN PROCESS.
AND THAT, THAT'S IT ON THE TRANSFER.
DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT ITEM NUMBER 14 ON THE LINE? ITEM TRANSFERS NOT, I ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ACCEPT THAT BY MADE COMMISSIONER MANNING MAKES THAT MOTION.
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SHANE SECOND MOTION.ANY DISCUSSION? REVIEW? OKAY, WAS FINISHED A SECOND? YES.
A ITEM NUMBER 1314 IS TO DISCUSS, CONSIDER PLAYING.
OKAY, I'M GLAD ALL OF YOUR SITTING THERE.
THE CLAIMS PAYMENT 5,050,000 3 0 4 79, ALMOST 3 MILLION OF THAT IS RATHER BOND MONEY.
UH, 60 SOMETHING THOUSAND IS C, HERS, UM, APPRAISAL DISTRICT WAS 120.
SO THOUSAND AND THEN THE DIFFERENT INSURANCES THAT WE HAD PAID MONTH.
SO ONES KIND THE FIRST PAGE? YEAH.
TOLD ALL STAR OR ONE FOR TWO FOUR.
IT WAS, WHAT WAS IT FOR? THAT'S JUST 30 DAYS.
YOU KNOW, YOU HAD FIXED GENERATOR RUNNING OUT REPAIRS ON THE GENERATOR BUT YOU COULDN'T DO THAT.
REPAIR PREPARED AND DISCONNECT TO
OR I'M SORRY, THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE.
WOULD THAT BE TWO DIFFERENT AMOUNTS ON THE SAME? YEAH, IT WAS TWO DIFFERENT AMOUNTS.
BUT SOMETIMES WHEN THEY'RE ITEMIZED LIKE THAT, THAT'S HOW THE POS PAY.
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I MEAN IT'S ONE INVOICE BIN NUMBER.IT'S NOT CONSIDERED IN THE SETBACK.
PART OF IT WAS FOR LABOR, PART OF IT WAS FOR PARTS.
THIS IS FOR INFORMATION PURPOSES.
I NEED, WE NEED TO PROBABLY PUT IT ON THE AGENDA.
WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH IN THE CONSTRUCTION FUND AND WE ONLY, I THINK WE SPENT SOME OF THAT.
I THINK WE DO HAVE, I KNOW WE HAVE THE INVOICE TO PAY, BUT JACK ISN'T GONNA PAY.
WELL I TELL YOU WHAT, THAT'S YOUR TURN DOWN.
FIRST TIME I THE ONE ON THE EIGHT TIMES RECORD STACKED, THAT'S GONNA BE THE, THAT'S THE BATTERY BACKUP SYSTEM.
SO THAT'S PART OF THE ARMY ABOUT SOMEBODY ABOUT THAT EXCRUCIATING UM, CONNIE RIDGE FOR PAN CHRISTMAS LIGHTS THAT IN THE CHILD SHELTER SAID THE CHILD SHELTER.
YEAH, I SAW THAT COUNTY EMERGENCY SHELTER.
UNLESS THE FOUNDATION MONEY STILL NOT ROUND HERE.
I WANTED THEIR BOARD TO PROVE THAT NEED CONTRACT, THIS COMMISSION YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE.
THEY MIGHT HAVE SOMEBODY LADDER COORDINATOR AND SEE IF GET A JOB.
YOU HAVE TO GO TO QUARTER EMERGENCY.
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Y'ALL LET EVERYBODY GO EARLY.AND WE'RE OFF ON, AND I HAD SOME REQUESTS CHANGE POLICY.
A LOT OF, ANYWAY I, AFTER I, IT'S BEEN LIKE TWO, THREE YEARS.
I WAS UNDER WHICH ONE PROBATIONERS HAD INVOICE THE BIG ONE.
CHIEF
WELL WHAT DOES IT SAY? THE SMART START PROGRAM THAT PEOPLE ON PROBATION.
WHAT DOES IT KNOW? THE BREATH THINGS THAT THEY HAVE TO INSTALL IN THEIR VEHICLES.
I KNOW THAT THEY HAVE TO PAY THEIR OWN.
AND I SEE SOME BILLS HERE FROM THE SUBSTANCE ABUSE, OUTPATIENT COMMUNITY CORRECTIONS, PROBATION.
THEY ALWAYS HAVE THE CLIENT BIRTHDAY.
I'M TRYING TO GET EDUCATED ON THAT.
THAT, THAT IS, UM, THEY'RE INSTALLING A MONTHLY FEE.
THEY DO HAVE TO PAY THEIR FEES.
WE HAVE TO PAY IT BEFORE ON SOMETHING NEW TO ME.
YOU NEED TO UNDERSTAND THAT STATE'S COMING FROM THE PROBATION.
IT'S INCLUDED IN THEIR FINES AND FEES.
THEIR CHO AND THE WAY THEY'VE GOT THAT SET UP.
PROBATION PAYS THEM AHEAD OF TIME.
AND THEN THEY HAVE THE PERSON, THE OFFENDER HAS TO COME IN AND PAY THEIR FEES AND FINES BECAUSE IT'S CAR WON'T START.
THEY, THEY, I WAS UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT IT, IT COST THEM TO PUT THE MONEY UP FOR THE MACHINE, HAVE IT, AND THEN THEY UH, THEY HAD TO DO THE MAINTENANCE ON TEST OR SOMETHING.
THEY HAVE TO GO HAVE IT RESET AND COST THEM.
I'M TRYING OF CURIOUS WHY THE COUNTY, CAN YOU DOUBLE CHECK ON THAT MAYBE? SURE.
THEY NOTE TO GIVE JUDGE CHIDI AND DAVID DANIELS ASKED I ABOUT IT UNDER COMMUNITY CORRECTIONS FUND.
HEY, YOU KNOW THERE IS A WAY OF BYPASSING THAT.
IF YOU'RE AN ALCOHOLIC, I HEAR DRINKING AND YOU CAN'T BLOW IT.
YOU GET SOMEBODY THAT AIN'T BEEN DRINKING GET CRANKED AND YOU STILL DRIVE IT.
BUT IT ONLY RUNS FOR LIKE 12 MINUTES BEFORE IT YOU TO BLOW IN IT AGAIN.
HOW DO YOU KNOW? WELL, IT TAKES A PICTURE OF IT WHEN YOU BLOW IN, IT TAKES A PICTURE.
OH, DOES IT? SEE THEY THEY PROBABLY FIGURED THAT ONE OUT.
WHEN YOU BLOW IN, IT TAKES A PICTURE OF IT.
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DID Y'ALL SIGN THE SHEET? I SIGN.THOSE ARE MINE TO APPROVE THAT.
ADJOURN RECORD MEETING MR. MANNING.