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OBVIOUSLY WE DELAYED OUR MEETING TODAY BECAUSE OF THE, UH, WEATHER, UH, BUT WE DO APPRECIATE EVERYBODY BEING HERE.
WE HAD A NUMBER OF ITEMS ON THE AGENDA THAT WE NEEDED TO CONDUCT TODAY.
UH, AND UH, SO WE WILL BEGIN, UH, THIS MORNING HERE.
IF YOU, WE HAVE TO SIGN IN SHEET THAT ANYBODY WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE COURT THERE ON THE TABLE.
UH, FEEL FREE TO, UH, SIGN IN AND, UH, COMMISSIONER CHARLES, IF YOU GIVE OUR INVOCATION, WE'LL BEGIN WITH OUR INVOCATION AND THEN WE'LL HAVE THE, UH, PLEDGE TO VOTE FLAGS AND WE'LL HAVE OPPORTUNITIES FOR THE, UH, LORD, WE GATHER HERE TODAY TO DO THE COUNTY'S BUSINESS.
WE PRAY THAT, UH, YOU GIVE US A WISDOM AND KNOWLEDGE TO DO EVERYTHING PROPERLY, UH, LEGALLY.
AND WE PRAY FOR ALL OUR FIRST RESPONDERS, IS THEY GREATEST VEHICLE OF WEATHER HERE.
PRAY THAT YOU LOOK OVER AND THEY ALL RETURN ON SAFELY.
AS ALWAYS, WE, WE ASK THAT YOU LOOK OVER SOLDIERS AND WE PRAY FOR THE, THE FOLLOW THE HEROES AND THEIR FAMILIES AS THEY DEAL WITH THEIR LOSSES.
AND JESUS, WE ASK THESE THINGS, AMEN TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INVIS WITH LIBERTY, VIRGINIA, JUSTICE FOR ALL HONOR EXPENSES, FLAG OF TO BE TEXAS, ONE UNDER GOD, ONE AN INDIVIDUAL.
WE HAVE ONE PERSON THAT, UH, HAS SIGNED UP THIS MORNING.
JIMMY, WOULD YOU LIKE TO COME? I'M GONNA, I'M GONNA WAIT AND, YOU KNOW, LET THE DISCUSSION TAKE PLACE.
WHAT, WHAT ITEMS ARE YOU TALKING? I WAS JUST CONCERNED ABOUT THE, UH, THE 9 1 1 RADIO SYSTEM I WAS CONCERNED ABOUT.
I HAD SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT THE 9 1 1 RADIO SYSTEM OKAY.
AND THE, UH, THE INTER LOCAL AGREEMENTS, BUT THAT MAY BE AN ANSWER, SO I'M JUST GONNA WAIT.
WELL, WE'RE ACTUALLY NOT GOING TO DISCUSS ITEMS THREE AND FOUR THIS MORNING.
YOU'RE NOT, UH, WE POSTPONED THE MEETING MONDAY, OF COURSE, WHICH WAS A REGULAR MEETING, AND THE ATTORNEY GENERAL'S OFFICE HAS RULED THAT WHETHER, UH, EVEN THOUGH WE HAD A WEATHER DELAY, UH, THAT IN, IN THE LAW, IT DOESN'T EXCUSE THAT A REGULAR MEETING.
SO WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO POST POLL ITEMS THREE AND FOUR UNTIL MARCH 19TH, WHICH WILL BE OUR NEXT RATE.
SO WE'RE ACTUALLY NOT GONNA DISCUSS THOSE THIS MORNING.
BUT IF YOU'D LIKE TO COME ON AND, UH, UNLESS YOU HAVE SOMETHING ELSE THAT YOU'D LIKE TO TALK ON THE AGENDA, NO, UH, I, I THINK EVERYTHING'S GONNA TAKE PLACE DURING THAT DISCUSSION.
I DON'T THINK IT'D BE APPROPRIATE TO BRING THAT UP NOW.
I THINK ALL THE ISSUES THAT, THAT WE ALL KNOW ABOUT ARE ON THE TABLE AND, AND ARE GONNA BE DISCUSSED.
SO I THINK I'D JUST, I'D RATHER JUST WAIT.
BUT YOU'RE CERTAINLY WELCOME TO IF YOU WANNA, I THINK YOU'RE PROBABLY PROBABLY RIGHT.
UH, NEXT ITEM IS THE, UH, ROUTINE CORRESPONDENCE.
AND THE ONLY THING I HAVE ON ROUTINE CORRESPONDENCE, UH, STEVE, YOU, YOU MAY NEED TO, AND JACK, UH, PROBABLY YOU AS WELL, UH, WE DID RECEIVE A, UH, CALL I BELIEVE YESTERDAY OR STEVE DID, JACK, I DON'T KNOW WHETHER YOU TALKED WITH ANYBODY OR NOT, BUT, UH, CONCERNING THE, UH, AMBULANCE SERVICE THAT EAST TEXAS MEDICAL CENTER, AND I'LL TRY TO TALK INTO THIS SO YOU CAN HEAR ME.
EAST TEXAS MEDICAL CENTER, UH, HAS ALREADY OR WILL ENTER INTO, THEY'VE ALREADY ENTERED INTO A CONTRACT WITH THE CITY TERRO YES, SIR.
TO PROVIDE THEM WITH TWO AMBULANCES WAY I UNDERSTAND IT.
AND THE KAUFMAN CITY COUNCIL WILL BE MEETING THURSDAY NIGHT.
THURSDAY NIGHT, AND THEY WILL BE PROVIDING THEM WITH ONE AMBULANCE IS ONE.
THAT, THAT'S WHAT I UNDERSTANDING OF IT'S, AND UH, SO THAT LEAVES US, UH, WITH ONLY THREE AMBULANCES FOR THE ENTIRE COUNTY.
UH, SO, UH, JACK, YOU WANT TO GET, OR STEVE OR EITHER ONE OF YOU TOGETHER, PROBABLY COME ON UP AND KIND OF TELL US WHERE WE ARE ON THAT.
AND JOHN, I'LL NEED YOUR INPUT HERE.
THIS IS CONSIDERED AN EMERGENCY, UH, AND UH, MAYBE WE MAY NEED TO HAVE A MEETING FRIDAY MORNING.
UH, THE CONCERNING SAYING, BUT IT KIND OF LEAVES US UNCOVERED OR THE RESPONSE TIME COULD BE A BIG ISSUE.
I THINK SO, YEAH, I'LL SPEAK ON THE PROCUREMENT SIDE.
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UNDER 2 62 CODE THERE IS PROVISION EMERGENCY AND WE CONTRACT $50,000 BASED ON COURT CALLING, I THINK IS WHAT CLASSIFIES AS THAT.SO I WOULD RECOMMEND WE PROBABLY END UP GOING A THIRD EMERGENCY TAKE ISSUE A CONTRACT WITH I GUESS CARE POSSIBLY OR PERIOD 12 MONTHS, UH, TO GET TIME TO REGROUP, GET ALL THE CITIES INVOLVED AND, AND, AND, UH, FIND NEEDS THERE.
THERE'S BEEN TALK ABOUT SIGNING CONTRACTS.
THERE'S NO, WE'VE GOT NO PROVISION TO ALLOW ONE COMPANY TO ASSIGN A CONTRACT, BUT WE DO HAVE A, UH, DECLARE EMERGENCY WE CAN ENTER CONTRACT.
IT, UH, I BELIEVE CAROL HAS ENTERED INTO AN AGREEMENT WITH, UH, CARELY, AND IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING YOU CHECKED THIS KAUFMAN AND THAT'S WHAT KAMAN UH, THEY SAID THAT'S PROBABLY WHO THEY'RE GONNA GONNA GO WITH.
SO EAST TEXAS WOULD ONLY HAVE THREE AMBULANCES LEFT FOR THE ENTIRE COUNTY.
WHICH IS WHAT HOW WE'VE BEEN OPERATING ALL ALONG.
WE, WELL THERE, IT'S BEEN A COMBINED DEAL USING CITY AND COUNTY AMBULANCES, WHICH THERE WAS A TOTAL OF SIX WITH TWO SEPARATE VENDORS GOING INTO THIS.
WE DO NOT KNOW OF ANY MUTUAL AID AGREEMENTS OR AGREEMENT BETWEEN THOSE ORGANIZATIONS TO, TO HELP EACH OTHER OUT.
THEREFORE, I'M LOOKING AT IT AS WE ONLY HAVE THREE AMBULANCES TO COVER THE ENTIRE COUNTY, WHICH WOULD SEVERELY HAMPER OUR ABILITY TO RESPOND TIMELY TO ANY KIND OF A MEDICAL EMERGENCY IN THE COUNTY, INCLUDING THE CITY OF FLORIDA, INCLUDING THE CITY OF THE COUNTY.
JACK, I MEAN, JOHN, I'M SORRY.
DO YOU THINK THIS CONSTITUTION EMERGENCY, WHAT'S YOUR RECOMMENDATION? YES, IT IS.
UH, I HAD LOOKED INTO THIS AND I HAD SENT A MEMO EARLIER THIS MORNING, I THINK UNDER YOUR GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 5 51 0.04, FIVE D ONE.
I DON'T ALWAYS HAVE IT MEMORIZED, BUT SINCE I TYPE IT THIS MORNING I RECALL, I KNOW WHY.
SO IN ON THAT, UH, IT JUST CONSTITUTES AN EMERGENCY BECAUSE IT PERTAINS TO THE IMMINENT HEALTH AND SAFETY OF THE CITIZENS.
AND I THINK IN THE POSTING OF NOTICE, UH, IT SHOULD REFLECT THAT.
AND I HAVE PROPOSED LANGUAGE FOR THAT.
ALSO PROPOSED LANGUAGE, THE AGENDA ITEM, UH, KIND OF GIVING A BROAD SWEEP TO WHAT THE COUNTY MAY DO AT A PRIVATE MEETING.
UH, THE COURT IS REQUIRED TO GIVE LEAST TWO HOURS NOTICE, BUT YOU'RE GOING TO GIVE CLOSE TO TWO DAYS NOTICE.
SO I THINK YOU'RE GONNA BE IN GOOD SHAPE ON THAT.
WOULD 10 O'CLOCK BE AGREEABLE WITH EVERYBODY? I KNOW WE HAVE ANOTHER EVENT I THINK THAT MORNING, UH, AT, YOU KNOW, SO IF WE COULD DO IT AT 10 O'CLOCK AND EVERYBODY AVAILABLE AT THAT TIME.
AND YOU'LL GET WITH, UH, I MEAN YOU SENT THE YES, I SENT SOMETHING TO YOU AND ALSO TO STEVE, JACK.
NOW IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT JACK COME UP, COME UP TWO, WHATEVER.
BUT NOW IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT CARELY HAS AGREED TO PRESENT A PROPOSAL.
THEY, THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO GET US A CONTRACT THIS MORNING.
UH, I'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THEM, UH, AND TRYING TO, YOU KNOW, WORK IN THE BEST INTEREST OF, OF OUR CITIZENS AND PART OF THAT WAS GETTING RESPONSE TIMES DOWN.
AND WE'VE GOT SOME LANGUAGE AND SOME AGREEMENTS IN PLACE.
WE'RE GONNA LOWER THOSE CONSIDERABLY.
UH, BUT ALSO ALLOW US, GIVE THEM 30, OR EXCUSE ME, 90 DAYS WHERE WE WOULD NOT CHARGE THEM A PENALTY TO, TO VERIFY THAT THEY CAN MEET THOSE RESPONSE TIMES.
YOUR HONOR, I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT AS PART OF THE NOTICE, THE COURT WILL KNOW WHEN IT COMES OUT THAT IT WILL REFLECT THAT THIS IS NOT DUE TO A LIFE LIFETIME PLANNING OF THIS COURT'S PART, BUT RATHER, UH, THE EMERGENCIES BECAUSE WE HAVE BEEN NOTIFIED THAT THE CONTRACT IS GOING TO BE EITHER BREACHED AND OR RIGHT.
UH, AGAINST OUR, UH, AGAINST THE VERY TERMS OF THE CONTRACT.
WHAT, AND WE NEED TO DO, SO THAT'S WHOLE ANOTHER SUBJECT NEED.
WE'LL, UH, WE'LL TRY TO GET THAT POSTED, UH, FOR MONDAY.
AND THIS WILL BE JUST FOR THE INTERIM PERIOD UNTIL WE DO A COMPLETE RFP FOR OTHER VENDORS.
I'M SURE SOME OF YOU GUYS HAVE I HAVE, YES.
GET CONTACTED BY ANOTHER, UH, A NUMBER OF VENDORS THAT ARE INTERESTED IN IT.
DID, DID YOU SAY ON MONDAY? UH, FRIDAY.
I MAY HAVE SAVED MONDAY, BUT I MEANT ONE, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I TOLD HIM TO PUT IN THERE BASED UPON WHAT, UH, DISCUSSIONS THAT I'VE HAD WITH JACK IS IT IS NOT TO EXCEED 12 MONTHS AND IT IS TO BE LABELED AS AN INTERIM CONTRACT.
SO THAT FREELY ALLOWS US TO LOOK AT RFPS AND, YOU KNOW, UH, WHATEVER WE NEED TO DO TO GET THE BEST SERVICE.
JUST, JUST TO BE CLEAR, UM, KAUFMAN AND
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TER, THEY'RE GONNA LEAVE AMBULANCES EAST, TEXAS'S GONNA LEAVE AMBULANCE, THEY'RE PULLING THEM OUT.IT'S GONNA BE, AND PL WILL HAVE PLACED IN THOSE TOWNS ON MARCH 1ST, AND THAT'S KIND OF THE URGENCY IS SO THAT WE COULD GET, GET TERRIFIED IN HERE AT THE SAME TIME.
SO THERE'S NO DISPARITY ON SERVICE.
SO WE DON'T HAVE AN INTERRUPTION SERVICE.
I JUST WANT EVERYBODY TO BE AWARE OF THAT SO WE CAN PLAN ACCORDINGLY.
AND, UH, NEXT ITEM, YOU GONNA BE HERE, HERE AT 10 O'CLOCK? OKAY? YES, JUDGE.
UM, I'D LIKE TO GIVE YOU SOME EMAIL.
THE COURTS AN EMAIL, UH, LATE FRIDAY AFTER YOUR MEETING.
I WAS, IT WAS REQUESTED THAT, UM, I CONTACTED SOME ADDITIONAL FINANCING OPTIONS FOR THE RADIO SYSTEM AND IT'S MY EMAIL FROM AMERICAN NATIONAL BANK SAYING THEY WOULD MAKE THE SAME TIME, UM, WEIGHING ON THE REVENUES COMING IN FROM THE FEDERAL MARSHALL CONTRACT.
I, UH, BASED ON THE EMAIL THAT I GOT FROM LATE
RIGHT? 40, 40 BASE POINTS IS ALREADY UP, BUT THEY ARE STILL INTERESTED IN THE WHATEVER.
I THINK THE RATES ARE GOING UP ABOUT 39 OR 40 BASIS POINTS IS WHAT I WAS TOLD.
THE CONSENT AGENDA OF ITEM A IS TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER RENEWING A MEMBERSHIP WITH THE TEXAS ASSOCIATION COUNTIES AND PAYING ANNUAL DUES.
BUT ITEM B IS TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER RENEWING MEMBERSHIP WITH THE NORTHEAST TEXAS COUNTY JUDGES AND COMMISSIONER'S ASSOCIATION AND PAYING ANNUAL DUE.
C IS TO APPROVE THE DEDICATION OF JOHN GARVIN FOR THE KAMAN COUNTY FIRE MARSHAL'S.
OFFICE D WOULD BE TO DISCUSS, CONSIDER APPROVING A PROJECT AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY OF COAST OAK BEND FOR ROAD REPAIR FOR IN KAMAN COUNTY PRECINCT.
ONE ITEM E IS TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER APPROVING AN INTER LOCAL AGREEMENT TO THE CITY OF MAYBANK FOR ROAD, UH, MCMA IN KAMAN COUNTY PRECINCT FOUR.
ITEM F IS, UH, DISCUSS, DISCUSSED, AND CONSIDER DESIGNATING RONNIE OFIELD AS THE KAUFMAN COUNTY INVESTMENT OFFICER.
AND ITEM G ACKNOWLEDGES THE APPOINTMENT OF JACK SEBASTIAN AS COUNTY PURCHASING AGENT AS APPOINTED BY JUDGES CHI BLAIR AND WOOD PURSUANT TO SECTION 2 62 0.011 OF THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE.
DO YOU HAVE ANY DISCUSSION ABOUT ANY OF THOSE ITEMS? NOTHING ELSE YOU CAN SAY.
UH, DID YOU MAKE YOU MAKE A MOTION TO ACCEPT? YES.
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM, UH, COMMISSIONER ALLEN.
SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER SHANE.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
ALRIGHT, WE'LL SKIP ITEM THREE.
WE'LL PULL AND, AND ACTUALLY LET'S TABLE THOUGH OFFICIALLY, UH, UH, BECAUSE OF THE LAW WAY THE LAW READS.
SO, UH, LET A MOTION THE TABLE ITEM NUMBER THREE.
UM, COMMISSIONER ALLEN MAKES THAT MOTION.
DO WE HAVE A SECOND? COMMISSIONER PHILLIP'S SECOND MOTION IS DISCUSSION.
ITEM NUMBER FOUR IS TO CONSIDER AND AN ACTS OF CONSIDERATION AND ACTION ON RESOLUTION EXPRESSING INTENT TO FINDING EXPENDITURES TO BE INCURRED BY CAMAN COUNTY, TEXAS.
HAVE A MOTION TO TABLE THAT I MOTION COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS UP MOTION COMMISSIONER ALLEN.
OVER NEXT PAGE, ITEM NUMBER FIVE IS TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER, UH, TAKING ACTION REGARDING THE, UH, DESIGNATION OF A LOCAL BEHAVIORAL HEALTH AUTHORITY FOR KALIN COUNTY PURSUANT TO THE TIMELINE OF THE, UH, SUNSET COMMISSION STUDY OF, UH, HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES COMMISSION.
UH, WE'VE DISCUSSED THIS BEFORE AND, UH, JUDGE CHI, YOU'RE THE RESIDENT EXPERT ON THIS AND I THINK WE ALSO HAVE ANOTHER REPRESENTATIVE, UH, HERE WITH US.
CAN YOU KIND OF BRING US UP TO DATE ON WHAT'S GOING ON? YES, SIR.
UH, ALEX SMITH IS HERE ALSO, WHO IS, UH, THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE NORTH TEXAS BEHAVIORAL HEALTH AUTHORITY.
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UM, I KNOW SOME OF THE COMMISSIONERS ARE FAMILIAR WITH, UH, WHAT WE REFER TO ASUH,
AND, UH, IT IS THE AUTHORITY THAT OVERSEES THE DELIVERY OF SERVICES TO THE INDIGENT, UH, WHO SUFFERED FROM EITHER ADDICTIONS OR MENTAL ILLNESSES, SUBSTANCE ABUSES.
AND, UH, CURRENTLY IN THAT SEVEN COUNTY REGION, SOME 72,000 UNIQUE INDIVIDUALS ARE RECEIVING SERVICES, SOME 2000 OUT OF KAUFMAN COUNTY.
UH, NIVA HAS BEEN THE AUTHORITY OF OVERSEEING THE DELIVERY OF THOSE SERVICES FOR THE LAST 10 PLUS YEARS, ALEX, 15 YEARS.
AND, UH, EACH COUNTY HAS REPRESENTATION ON THAT BOARD.
I HAVE BEEN THE KAUFMAN COUNTY, UH, REPRESENTING, APPOINTED BY THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT FOR THE LAST NINE YEARS OR SO.
I SERVED FOUR YEARS AS CHAIRMAN OF THAT BODY AND, UH, VERY FAMILIAR WITH THE WORKINGS, UH, AND DELIVERY OF SERVICES PROVIDED UNDER THE SUPERVISION THAT I'M HERE THIS MORNING TO, UH, RESPOND TO ONE OF THESE, UH, DICTATES OUT OF AUSTIN.
UH, THE SUNSET COMMISSION REVIEWED THE HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES COMMISSION OPERATIONS, UH, THIS PAST, UH, SESSION AND THEY HAVE MADE A NUMBER OF RECOMMENDATIONS, UM, SUNSET COMMISSION REGARDING OVERHAUL OF HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES COMMISSION, UH, ACTIVITIES.
THE DEPARTMENT OF STATE HEALTH SERVICES OPERATES UNDER THE UMBRELLA OF HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES COMMISSION DISHES, THEN, UH, OVERSEES THE DELIVERY OF SERVICES FOR THE MENTALLY ILL AND SUBSTANCE ABUSERS IN THE STATE.
NIPA OVERSEES A VERY UNIQUE SYSTEM IN TEXAS.
WE ARE CALLED THE NORTH STAR SYSTEM.
IT'S A BLENDING OF FUNDING SYSTEM THAT PROVIDES A NO WAITING LIST, UH, OPPORTUNITY FOR PEOPLE SUFFERING EITHER MENTAL ILLNESSES OR SUBSTANCE ABUSE ISSUES FOR THIS SEVEN COUNTY AREA.
UM, THOSE SERVICES ARE DELIVERED TO ROUGHLY IS ALEX ONE THIRD OF ALL CONSUMERS IN THE STATE OF TEXAS.
OUR SEVEN COUNTY REGION PROVIDES ONE THIRD OF ALL SERVICES TO, UH, PARTICIPANTS IN THE STATE AT LESS THAN HALF THE COST PER INDIVIDUAL THAT THE OTHER PORTIONS OF THE STATE, UH, ENJOY.
SO, UH, WE'VE GOT A TRACK RECORD WITH
UM, HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES FOR SOME REASON BELIEVES THAT COURT STARS SHOULD BE THROWN IN THE CRASH BIN AND, UH, WE'RE NOT QUITE SURE WHY.
UM, WE HAVE DELIVERED MORE SERVICES AT LAST THAN LESS COST THAN ANY OTHER REGION OF THE STATE, BUT AT ANY RATE, WE ARE UNDER A DEADLINE OF MARCH 3RD FOR THE EACH COUNTY WITHIN THE NORTH STAR REGION, EACH OF THESE SEVEN COUNTIES TO DESIGNATE A LOCAL MENTAL HEALTH AUTHORITY.
UH, YOU CAN RETAIN MIT, THE LOCAL BEHAVIORAL HEALTH AUTHORITY, YOU CAN SWITCH TO ANOTHER MODEL OUTSIDE OF MI OR YOU CAN ALLOW THE STATE TO MAKE THE DECISION FOR US.
IN OTHER WORDS, WE CAN DEFAULT AND LET THE STATE DO WHAT THEY CHOOSE TO DO ISSUE AN RFP AND SEE WHO COMES FORWARD.
UH, IT'S MY OPINION THAT NUMBER ONE, WE DON'T KNOW YET WHAT THE LEGISLATURE'S GOING DO THAT SINCE THAT RECOMMENDATIONS, THERE IS KIND OF A GROUNDSWELL OF ACTIVITY RIGHT DOWN TO REJECT THE RECOMMENDATIONS AND, UM, MET ZINGER FROM MENTAL HEALTH AMERICA WAS GOING TO BE HERE TODAY.
I'M AFRAID THE WEATHER HAS PREVENTED HER, BUT JANE WAS PREPARED TO ADDRESS SOME ISSUES AND IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT SHE HAS SPOKEN TO SENATOR HALL.
AND SENATOR HALL IS IN FAVOR OF REJECTING THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS.
UM, ALEX IS HERE AS EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR TO GIVE YOU ANY, UH, DETAILS THAT YOU MIGHT WANT TO HEAR ABOUT REGARDING THE OPERATIONS AS A MEMBER OF THAT BODY APPOINTED BY THIS COURT.
UH, FOR THE LAST NINE YEARS, IT IS MY RECOMMENDATION THAT THE COUNTY DESIGNATE NET CONTINUE TO SERVICE THE LOCAL MENTAL HEALTH AUTHORITY IN KAMAN COUNTY.
OF THE SEVEN COUNTIES WITHIN THE NORTH STAR REGION, UH, KATON COUNTY IS THE ONLY ONE SAVED.
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THAT HAS NOT YET ACTED AND ALL OF THE OTHER COUNTIES HAVE ELECTED TO STAY WITH NIBU AS THE LOCAL MENTAL HEALTH AUTHORITY.NARA ELLIS, ROCKWELL HUNT, DALLAS HAVE ALL CHOSEN TO STAY WITH NIT.
IT'S MY RECOMMENDATION THAT WE DO THE SAME.
UH, COLLIN COUNTY BELIEVES THAT THEY ARE GOING TO BE THEIR OWN MENTAL HEALTH AUTHORITY AND OPERATE THEIR OWN SYSTEM WITHIN THE CONFINES OF COLLIN COUNTY.
SO, UH, UH, I THINK THERE ARE CERTAIN ECONOMIES OF STAKEHOLDERS WE CAN ENJOY BY STAYING WITH THE SIX COUNTIES AND, UM, WE HAVE A ROBUST SYSTEM IN PLACE RIGHT NOW.
I DON'T SEE ANY REASON TO CHANGE IT.
UH, ALEX, WOULD YOU LIKE TO ADD ANYTHING? UM, JUDGE, UH, AT YOUR WORKSHOP WHILE LAST WEEK, I, A TABLE COME BY DISTRIBUTED PACKETS OF INFORMATION FOR YOU, ONE OF WHICH WAS THE MOST RECENT STUDY COMMISSIONED BY
THE SUMMARY PAGES THAT I LEFT, BELIEVE YOU VERY CLEARLY, SIX STATE, BUT THIS MODEL IS THE BEST ONE SHOULD BE NOT ONLY KEPT HERE, IT SHOULD BE CONSIDERED FOR OTHER PARTS OF THE STATE.
SO THAT'S A VERY STRONG AFFIRMATION AND IT ALSO BACKS UP SIX STUDIES THAT HAVE BEEN DONE OVER THE LAST 15 YEARS, ESSENTIALLY SET THE SAME.
UH, WE HAVE, WE HAVE PREPARED, UH, A COMMUNITY HEALTH PLAN ON YOUR BEHALF, UH, ANTICIPATING OF YOU STAYING WITH US.
IF YOU CHOOSE TO STAY WITH US, YOU CAN CONSIDER THAT PLAN HAVING BEEN TURNED THE STATE, UH, TIMELY ON YOUR BEHALF, SUBMITTED CONDITIONS ENTERED INTO SOME DISCUSSION DETAILS THAT, BUT SHORT OF THAT, I REALLY DON'T HAVE ANYTHING MORE TO ADD, UH, THAN WHAT JUDGE CHINEY HAS ALREADY TOLD YOU.
WE DO BELIEVE WE HAVE THE ECONOMIES OF SCALE.
I POINTED OUT MULTIPLE TIMES THE THEY'RE SPENDING MORE MONEY IN THAN OUR COUNTIES COUNTY.
WE WERE ABLE TO DO THAT BECAUSE OF THE EFFICIENCIES, OUR MODEL.
AND WE'RE LUCKY TO HAVE A LARGE CENTER LIKE THAT, A CITY LIKE THAT BECAUSE THEY HAVE THE INFRASTRUCTURE RESOURCES THAT WE WOULDN'T HAVE AVAILABLE TO US IF YOU'RE NOT.
SO THAT HAS BEEN A STRENGTH, NOT SO, UH, I'M GLAD TO ANSWER QUESTIONS IF YOU HAVE ANY, BUT, UH, LIKE TO ADOPT THE RESOLUTION, YOUR AUTHORITY AND COMMUNITY.
I BELIEVE THE OTHER PROPOSAL THAT WE RECEIVED FROM, UH, THE LAKE REGIONAL, UH, FOLKS WAS PREDICATED ON THE FACT THAT THEY WERE GONNA HAVE, SOME OTHER COUNTIES WOULD BE WITH THEM.
THEY WERE ROCK ROCKWALL COUNTY.
BUT HUNT AND ROCKWALL COUNTY HAVE CHOSEN TO STAY WITH NORTH SERGEANT.
SO THE ONLY ONE THAT IS NOT GOING TO STAY WELL, DEPENDING ON WHAT WE DO IS COLLIN COUNTY.
AND COLLIN COUNTY MAY DO THEIR OWN, MY UNDERSTANDING, THEY'RE GOING TO DESIGNATE THEMSELVES PROBABLY AS THE LOCAL MENTAL HEALTH AUTHORITY.
IS THAT YOUR UNDERSTANDING THAT YEAH, THEY'RE HEADING THAT DIRECTION.
ALTHOUGH THEY'VE ALREADY STARTED NEGOTIATING IN DALLAS FOR ALL HIGHER RESOURCES.
SO THERE'RE STILL PRETTY MUCH LIKE, IS THERE ANYONE HERE TODAY FROM LAKES REGIONAL WOULD MAKE SURE THEY HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK IF THEY WANT? JUDGE, UH, LEMME ADD ONE OTHER THING.
UH, THE LOCAL, UH, NAMI ORGANIZATION, EMMA GLEN, I THINK SOME OF YOU HAVE MET MS. LYNN.
UH, MS. GLEN I'M TOLD WAS GONNA BE HERE WITH MS. MET AND I GUESS THE WEATHERS PREVENTED BOTH OF THEM FROM COMING.
BUT THE LOCAL NAMI ORGANIZATION SUPPORTS THE DESIGNATION OF, UH, MED LOCAL MENTAL HEALTH AUTHORITY ALSO.
SO YOU'VE GOT LOCAL SUPPORT FOR THIS FROM THE NON ORGANIZATION AS WELL AS MHO.
ULTIMATELY WHY WE DO IS REALLY GOING TO BE THE LEGISLATURE'S, REALLY THE LEGISLATURE FIND DETERMINATION, ACCEPT OR REJECT THE RECOMMENDATIONS.
UH, WE HAVE BEEN MANDATED BY HHSC TO DESIGNATE SOMEONE BY MARCH 3RD OR WILL BE IN DEFAULT AND THEY CAN CHOOSE SOMEONE FOR US.
UM, JUST ADDING TO THAT, WHAT DOINGS WE, AT THEIR REQUEST, WE'RE PREPARING THIS PLAN AS A FALLBACK.
IF THE LEGISLATURE REJECTS THE SUNSET COMMISSION, THEN NORTH STAR AS IT CURRENTLY EXISTS, CONTINUES FORWARD.
IF IT NOT, THEN THE PLAN THAT WE HAVE SUBMITTED, WE THAT, AND I BELIEVE THE DEADLINE IS MARCH THE THIRD.
FIRST THIRD, WHICH NEXT WHAT? TUESDAY I OR SOMETHING? CORRECT.
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Y'ALL HAVE A QUESTION? COMMISSIONER, Y'ALL HAVE QUESTIONS? I'LL MAKE THE MOTION.WE START TO CONTINUE TO DO A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER ROSA THAT WE, UH, CONTINUE WITH NORTH STAR AND THE COMMISSIONER TO SPECIFY NORTH TEXAS BEHAVIORAL HEALTH AUTHORITY, NORTH TEXAS BEHAVIORAL.
WOULD YOU SPELL THAT FOR? SO
ANY, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
THE NEXT ITEM IS TO, ITEM NUMBER SIX IS TO THE DISCUSS AND CONSIDER APPOINTING A MEMBER, UH, TO THE INDIGENT DEFENSE BOARD, UH, TO REPLACE RAY CLARK.
CURRENTLY THE BOARD HAS MADE UP OF THE JUDGES, INCLUDING MYSELF AND ONE COMMISSIONER, AND HAS GENERALLY BEEN THE SENIOR COMMISSIONER, I THINK OVER THE YEARS.
UH, EVEN THOUGH THE SENIOR COMMISSIONER DOESN'T LIKE BE CALLED THE SENIOR COMMISSIONER.
BUT, UH, UH, BUT THIS WOULD BE THE BOARD THAT MEETS, UH, SOMETIMES QUARTERLY AND GOES OVER THE END DEFENSE, UH, PROGRAM THAT WE HAVE.
NOT ONLY THE, UH, THE AMOUNT OF MONEY IN THE FUNDING THAT WE PROVIDE TO OUR LOCAL ATTORNEYS, BUT IT IS ALSO, UH, THE, UH, UH, INDIGEN, UH, PROB THAT WE HAVE THAT'S OUT DEFENDER'S OFFICE.
AND, UH, THEY'RE GONNA BE MEETING SOON.
WE DO NEED A COMMISSIONER TO SERVE ON THAT COURT.
SO WHAT'S YOUR PLEASURE? I MAKE MOTION.
WE, UH, PHILLIPS HAS BEEN, UH, NOMINATED TO BE, UH, THE OFFICIAL MEMBER ON THE, UH, ON THE BOARD, THE INCIDENT DEFENSE BOARD COMMISSIONER ZA SECONDS.
ANY OTHER STATE? ALL IN FAVOR ALL.
THEY, YOU JUST, YOU JUST APPOINTED WHAT VOTE.
UH, NUMBER SEVEN IS TO CONSIDER OR DISCUSS AND CONSIDER A RECOMMENDATION FROM COMMISSIONER ROSALE, UH, CONCERNING A RESOLUTION SUPPORTING THE PROPOSED LEGISLATION TO CREATE A FILING FEE FOR CIVIL CASES IN KAUFFMAN COUNTY TO BE USED FOR THE CONSTRUCTION RENOVATION OR IMPROVEMENT OF THE FACILITIES THAT HOUSE THE COURTS COLLECTED FEES IN ALL MATTERS RELATED.
THIS IS SOMETHING, UH, WITH THE HELP OF, OF MS. HUGHES THAT I'VE DONE SOME RESEARCH ON.
AND, UM, IT'S, THIS RESOLUTION HAS BEEN BROUGHT BEFORE THE COURT TO ADDRESS THE BRACKET LEGISLATION THAT THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT CAN ASK OUR STATE REP AND STATE SENATOR TO TAKE, UH, FOR THE LEGISLATURE.
UH, WE, WE'VE SPOKEN TO SEVERAL OF THE JUDGES AND I THINK WE HAVE THE SUPPORT ON THIS.
UH, THE PROPOSED LEGISLATION WILL CREATE A NEW FILING FEE FOR CIVIL CASES IN
UH, THE SAME LEGISLATION WAS PASSED IN ROCKWELL COUNTY IN 2013.
UH, IT'S, IT'S NOT A TAX INCREASE, IT IS A USER FEE.
UH, IT'S, IT INCLUDES A SUNSET PROVISION OR ENDING PERIOD.
UH, LEGISLATION WOULD ALLOW THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT TO ADD ANYWHERE FROM ONE PENNY UP TO $15 ON EACH CIVIL CASE FILE TO THE DISTRICT COUNTY COURT OF LAW OR, OR JP COURTS.
UH, MONEY ONCE COLLECTED WOULD BE USED, UH, CONSTRUCTION RENOVATION AND IMPROVEMENT OF EACH FACILITY.
UM, SO IF JUDGE SMITH COLLECTED $20,000 AND THE MONEY COULD BE USED IN THAT COURT BUILDING FOR THAT FACILITY FOR THE, LIKE THE H JB YES.
YEAH, THE MONEY, IT HAS TO BE ASSOCIATED WITH EACH COURT COLLECTED AND THAT WOULD HELP US TO RENOVATE I THINK SOME OF OUR SUB COURT HOUSES.
UM, I SAY IT'S NOT A TAX, IT'S A USER FIELD.
UM, IF YOU DON'T USE THE COURT SYSTEM, YOU DON'T PAY.
AND IT COULD ALSO BE USED, UM, IN THE FUTURE IF WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, SURPLUS MONEY TO GO FUND A NEW JUSTICE CENTER.
UM, I'LL WRITE DOWN, ALL WE'RE ASKING IS THAT THE COURT, UH, SIGN THIS RESOLUTION SUPPORTING THIS TYPE OF LEGISLATION AND ONCE THAT DONE, WE WILL NOTIFY SENATOR HALL AND REPRESENTATIVE SPITZER AND THEY WILL START LAW ROAD, SUBMIT THE
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LEGISLATION.I BELIEVE IT WOULD BE LIKE A LOCAL BILL.
IT WOULD BE A LOCAL LEGISLATION.
WATCH, THERE'S FIVE OR SIX OTHER COUNTIES AT LEAST THAT YEAH.
DISCUSSION YOU GET, ASK YOU IF WE DO THE $15 MAXIMUM, IF YOU JUST LOOKED HISTORICALLY AT THE LAST FOUR OR FIVE BUCKS CYCLES, UM, IT COULD RUN FROM 53,000 TO 35 TOTAL IF YOU, SO IT WOULD BE THE JP COURT, COUNTY COURT.
SO IT BE ALL, ALL COURTS ALL YEAH, WE, WE'D HAVE TO SET UP SEPARATE LINE ITEMS TO BE ABLE TO TRACK IT, BUT HAVE TO BE DONE ONLY ON CIVIL CASE IS NOT THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE I KNOW MAY COME BACK AND, YOU KNOW, IF THE LEGISLATION IS APPROVED, THEY MAY COME BACK AND ASK THAT MONEY NOT BE PAID ON BOND COURT.
THEY WERE OKAY WITH EVERYTHING ELSE, BUT THEY'RE RENEGOTIATED.
THEY JUST RENEGOTIATED WITH THE BONDING COMPANIES AND SO THEY SAID THEY MAY WANT TO COME BACK AND ASK THE COURT, YOU KNOW, IF THE, IF THE LEGISLATION IS PASSED BY.
YEAH, IF THE LEGISLATION IS PASSED AND THEN YOU COME BACK TO THE COURT AND THE COURT HAS TO APPROVE THE FEE, THEN AT THAT TIME THE COURT CAN SAY, YOU KNOW, EXCLUDING THIS IS ONLY PRESENTED TO LEGISLATIVE OH, THROUGH THE LEGISLATURE.
AND THEN WE CAN COME BACK AND ASSESS, LIKE I SAY, ANYWHERE FROM TO 15 THIS.
COMMISSIONER ALLEN, DO WE HAVE A SECOND? YOUR HONOR? COMMISSIONER ROSALE SECOND.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? BUT BEFORE YOU VOTE OKAY, I'M SORRY.
COULD, COULD YOU HAVE AN AMENDMENT TO IT? UH, JUST SO IT'LL BE CONSISTENT WITH FACILITY FEE AND OTHER COUNTIES THAT IT'S GOING TO EXCLUDE ROGER LANE, UH, LAWSUITS AND MANY OTHER SUITS THAT THAT'S GONNA BE A VERY SMALL SET, BUT JUST SO IT'S CONSISTENT THAT THAT WILL PROBABLY NEED TO BE DONE ONCE IT'S, IT COMES BACK FROM LEGISLATION.
THIS THIS IS JUST RESOLUTION TRYING TO GET OUR OUR OKAY.
REPRESENTATIVE TO GET IT THROUGH THE LEGISLATION.
WE BACK UNTIL WE RATIFY SPECIFICS.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
UH, THE NEXT ITEM IS ITEM NUMBER EIGHT.
UH, KEITH STEVENS, WHO IS HERE TO GIVE US HIS RACIAL PROFILING REPORT.
I BELIEVE WE HAVE A COPY THAT.
ANYTHING ELSE KEITH, HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF, OF CONS CONCERN AGAINST THE COURT? I LOOKED OVER TO, I MADE A MOTION.
WE ACCEPT KEITH STEVENS RACIAL PROFILING.
ALRIGHT, WE HAVE A MOTION FOR COMMISSIONER TO ACCEPT, UH, THE, UH, RACIAL PROFILING REPORT, UH, FOR CONSTABLE PRECINCT THREE.
UH, COMMISSIONER SHANE, SECOND MOTION.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
NEXT ITEM IS ITEM NUMBER NINE IS TO, UH, ALSO FOR KEITH IS TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER APPROVING THE PURCHASE OF THREE SHARES OUT OF THE CONSTABLE PRECINCT THROUGH BUDGET.
SO, UH, WE'LL PROCEED, UH, ON SEPTEMBER 18TH, COMMISSIONER'S COURT APPROVED MY BUDGET.
THERE IS A LINE ITEM 0 1 0 5200 DASH 5 53 FOR FURNITURE AND EQUIPMENT IN THAT LINE.
JUST BEFORE THAT PLAN ITEM, I PUT IN A PO REQUEST TO PURCHASE THREE SHARES FROM MY OFFICE DUE TO THE CHAIRS THAT ARE IN MY OFFICE NOW CAME FROM MY HOUSE WHEN I GOT ELECTED, THERE WERE NO CHAIRS IN THERE.
UH, I WAS TOLD THAT FURNITURE LINE ITEM WAS NOT FOR PURCHASING FURNITURE, BUT YET I JUST GOT OFF THE PHONE WITH CONSTABLE PRECINCT FLOOR THIS MORNING WHO PURCHASED TWO DESKS AND TWO CHAIRS USING THAT SAME FURNITURE LINE ITEM.
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OKAY? ONLY THING I'M ASKING FOR IS THE OPPORTUNITY TO UTILIZE MY BUDGET THAT THE COUNTY APPROVED FOR MY APARTMENT, RUN MY APARTMENT THE WAY I THINK DID, AND YOU AND YOU SUBMITTED IT THAT WAY.YOU, YOU'RE THE ONE WHO SUBMITTED THIS BUDGET.
AND WHEN I GOT IT BACK, THIS WAS, I GOT IT BACK, JACK, WOULD YOU CARRY THE ADDRESS? THIS CERTAINLY WILL ADDRESS IT.
WE HAVE A CLAIM THAT A TERM THAT'S USED, NOT USED CAREFULLY.
WE, I GAVE THIS BILL ABOUT FIRST EIGHT, SIX YEARS.
I HERE NOWHERE IN REALITY, WHAT YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO DO IS YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO PRESENT A, THE COURT PROVES THE BUDGET AND THEN WE CAN I GET A LIST WASN'T APPROVED.
I KNOW WHAT BUY YOU CAN POST THAT BUDGET ON THE INTERNET SO TAXPAYERS KNOW WHAT THEIR TAX BUDGET ONE, THAT'S TRUTH IN THE BUDGET.
MR. STEVENS, UH, REQUESTED THREE TAHOES, OR EXCUSE ME, TWO TAHOES, UH, AND EQUIPMENT TO GO WITH TAHOE.
YOU MAY GO WITH HIS, THOSE CARS IN THE POSITION HE ASKED FOR WERE NOT APPROVED.
HOWEVER, THE MONEY STAYED IN THERE AND I'M SURE THAT YOU KNOW, TIME THIS ACCIDENT, THOSE, UH, HE DID ASK FOR AR 15 AND A RACK AND WHATEVER FOR ONE CAR.
THE OTHER ITEMS WERE FOR HIS OTHER CAR THAT HE DID NOT GET.
SO WHEN I GAVE, SO WHAT HAPPENED WHILE I'M GONE, UH, FURNITURE'S ORDER TO THE STATE, I KNOW JUDGE AND UH, CUSTOM
NOW I'LL LET YOU JUMP SPEAK TO THAT.
WHAT YOU SEE THERE, WHAT WE FOR WE CAN DO THE, WE DO, I EXPLAIN THAT TO MR. STEVENS.
I ALSO ADVISED HIM WHEN I CANCELED THE ORDER BECAUSE I I DID NOT KIND OF PERSON TO GO THROUGH ME, DID NOT GO THROUGH ME.
WHEN I FOUND OUT I CANCELED THE ORDER, HE, YOU WISHED I WOULD'VE TOOK AND TOLD HIM.
I SHOULDA GAVE TO MR. STEVENS.
AND I TOLD MR. STEVENS THAT I, YOU KNOW, THAT I HAD, YOU KNOW, I FELT BAD ABOUT IT, THAT I HAD FURNITURE THAT THE PRECINCT FLOOR NEEDED AND I FELT KIND OF GUILTY THAT ONE AREA.
AND SO I, I SAID, YOU KNOW WHAT I'D DO, I'D LIKE TO BUY YOU FURNITURE THAT'S EQUALS AND WHAT THE OTHER PEOPLE ARE GETTING.
AT THAT POINT, MR. DIVA SAID, NO, THAT'S NOT GOOD ENOUGH.
I'M GONNA STICK TO WHAT I WANT.
YOU KNOW, I, YOU KNOW, I WANT THE JUDGE'S CHAIR AND A FANCY CHAIR.
NOW I WILL URGE THE COURT, YOU KNOW, YOU MIGHT WANT TO THINK ABOUT THIS.
YOU MAKE A, MAKE A GOOD DECISION BECAUSE YOU MAKE A WRONG DECISION.
ACCORDING TO MY STAFF MEMBER, CONSTABLE STEVEN WILL COME TO MY OFFICE, MY EMPLOYEES CALLING ME A LIAR, MAKING ACCUSATIONS AND, AND TELL, TELL EVERYBODY, YOU KNOW, I'M JUST HERE TO S**T UP.
I, YOU CAN GET IN WHAT YOU WANT.
YEAR BEFORE LAST BUDGET, PRECINCT FOUR HAD ASKED FOR SOME STUFF BECAUSE A COUPLE OF THEIR DESKS WERE PROPPED UP WITH FIT BRICKS AND CEMENT, UM, BLOCKS.
I COULDN'T THINK IT WAS FALLING DOWN.
SO I LEFT IT IN THE BUDGET AND Y'ALL PROVED IT THAT WAY.
ALRIGHT, WHEN THIS BUDGET FROM CHRISTINE, THREE COMM, UH, CONSTABLE, UH, SUBMITTED THAT, THOSE WERE HIS NOTES OF WHAT HE NEEDED.
LOCK LAPTOPS, UM, AR FIFTEENS, THE HOLDERS, THE RIFLES, THE SHOTGUNS, AND THE AMMO.
SO THE NUMBERS ADDED UP ON THE SIDE.
THAT'S HIS HANDWRITING OF WHAT HE NEEDED.
THE NUMBERS ARE MY NUMBERS AND THAT'S WHY I PUT THAT NUMBER IN THERE.
I'M GONNA SUGGEST FOR BUDGET THAT WE SEPARATE IT OFFICE EQUIPMENT OR WHATEVER, OUR SAFETY LAW ENFORCEMENT AND YOU NEED TO SEPARATE IT.
ONE ITEM NEEDS TO BE FOR EQUIPMENT WHEN I NEEDS TO BE BUDGET HERE AND I GUESS, I DUNNO, CAN YOU PULL YOURS UP ON YOUR SCREEN?
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HAS THAT BEEN MONEY LEFT? YEAH, HE STILL HAS.WHAT HE HASN'T SPENT OUT OF THAT LINE ITEM IS STILL THERE TO SPEND.
THERE'S NOT MORE THAN ENOUGH MONEY STILL LEFT IN THAT LINE ITEM TO PURCHASE THE SHARE THAT I'VE ASKED FOR.
THESE ARE THE EXACT, MY QUESTION, MY QUESTION OR CONCERN WOULD BE IS TWO YEARS AGO WE, JACK HAD TO REPLACE, UH, ONE OF THE JUDGE'S ACTUAL JUDGE'S CHAIRS.
WE HAD TO ORDER SPECIAL CAL LEATHER TO FIX IT AND COVER IT AND GET IT RIGHT.
HE WAS SUPPOSED TO PUT SIX, $700 I, OKAY, BOTH OF US GOT QUESTIONED BY THIS COURT.
MAYBE NOT YOU, BUT YOUR POSITION AND WHY WE APPROVE THAT.
SO THAT WOULD BE ONE QUESTION OR CONCERN ALSO IS, YOU KNOW, WHO SHOULD GET THOSE KIND OF CHAIRS? BECAUSE THAT'S KIND OF EXPENSIVE FURNITURE AND I'M, MY SIDE OF IT JUST FOR BUDGET TO HELP JUDGE WOOD IS I WOULD MAKE TWO SEPARATE LINE ITEMS. SOMEBODY NEEDS ACTUAL FURNITURE, THEN WE PUT SOME MONEY IN THERE FOR DESK OR CHAIRS AND IN ONE FOR THE EQUIPMENT THEY MIGHT NEED.
I WAS JUST TRYING TO SEPARATE IT THROUGH.
IT WOULD HELP, YOU KNOW, HOW MANY, IS THIS, UH, FURNITURE EQUIPMENT BUDGET BEEN IN THE, THE BUDGET IN IN THE PAST BACK GOING BACK SIX, SEVEN YEARS AGO? OR DID ALL THE FURNITURE COME FROM THE FIRST YES SIR.
IT USED TO BE LIKE, UH, UP TO 10 YEARS AGO, THEY WOULD HAVE SPECIAL LINES IN THEIR, THEIR DEPARTMENTAL BUDGET AND THEN SOME OF THAT WAS PULLED BACK AND PUT IN THE 4 0 9 BIG GENERAL GOVERNMENT FUND.
AND UH, THEN I THINK JUDGE WOOD KIND OF GOT JACKED KIND OF OVER WATCHING IT WITH THE 200 AND THE BIG OFFICE SUPPLY LINE WHERE WE BUY ALL THE PAPER TO MAKE SURE WE'RE GETTING COMMISSIONER PRECINCT OR AT THAT TIME USED TO MAKE A COMMENT AND A JOKE, NEED AN 18 WHEELER, WE GOTTA BUY THAT PAPER BY THE 18 WHEELERS BECAUSE IT'S SO EXPENSIVE.
SO, YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO KIND OF FINE TUNE THIS.
AND MY CONCERN IS SOMEBODY SAYS THEY NEED 3000 TO BUY THE GUNS, THE RIFLES OR WHATEVER, AND THEN THEY DON'T BUY THAT.
THEY NEED TO COME BACK TO COURT AND SAY, I DIDN'T SPEND ALL MY MONEY AND I'D LIKE TO MOVE IT TO A NEW LINE ITEM AND BUY SOME FURNITURE IF YOU'RE APPROVED.
THAT'S, THAT'S THE IMPORTANT PROBLEM IS WE HAVEN'T BEEN REQUESTING THAT FROM THE PEOPLE, THE DEPARTMENT HEADS AND ELECTED OFFICIALS TO COME TO THE COURT AND ASK TO DO THIS.
THE REASON WE DID THAT WAS TO MOVE THE, UH, LINE ITEM FURNITURE TO THE ONE SOURCE, TO THE, TO THE JACKS AND SEE PURCHASING WHAT WAS HAPPENING.
WE GET DOWN TOWARDS THE END OF THE BUDGET YEAR AND IF SOMEBODY LOOKED OVER, NOT EVERYBODY PLEASE UNDERSTAND, BUT THERE WERE SOME THAT WE'D GET DOWN TO THE END OF THE BUDGET YEAR AND IF THEY HADN'T SPENT, IF THEY HAD A THOUSAND DOLLARS OR $2,000 UP IN THEIR FURNITURE BUDGET, THEY'D GO BUY SOMETHING JUST BECAUSE THEY HAD MUCH.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S THE REASON WE STARTED DOING THAT.
BUT I GUESS I'M A LITTLE CONFUSED HERE BECAUSE I THOUGHT THIS CHAIR, I THOUGHT I READ SOMETHING THAT THE CHAIR WAS FOR JUDGE SMITH INCORRECT.
OKAY, WELL I BY THE PURPOSE DEPARTMENT.
OKAY, WELL I, I THOUGHT, AND IF I COULD COMMENT TOO ON THIS FURNITURE, THIS IS, THIS IS THE SAME STUFF THAT IS SITTING IN FOUR OR FIVE OFFICES AT THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE.
IT IS SITTING IN NUMEROUS OFFICES THROUGHOUT THIS COUNTY.
I'M NOT ASKING FOR SOMETHING SPECIAL THAT NOBODY ELSE HAS.
IT'S THE SAME FURNITURE THAT'S BEEN ROUTINELY ORDERED FOR THIS COUNTY.
OKAY? AND THERE WAS NO OTHER COMMUNICATION FROM HIM TELLING ME THAT THE POS WERE CANCELED, NO EMAILS.
I'VE NEVER RECEIVED A PHONE CALL FROM HIM.
I STILL GOT COPIES OF ALL THE EMAILS.
AND I DID NOT FIND OUT THAT THE STUFF WAS CANCELED UNTIL I WENT IN AND SPOKE WITH MS. LISA IN HIS OFFICE BECAUSE THE MONEY WAS TAKEN OUT MY ACCOUNT TWO TO THREE MONTHS LATER THE MONEY WAS STILL NOT IN MY, I LIKE YOU GUYS, LISA, GET INVOLVED.
GOT THAT LETTER EXPLAINS WHAT WAS ASKING FOR.
I DUNNO, MAYBE STUDENT DIDN'T GET THE TRUE STORY, BUT THE INDIVIDUAL THAT TOLD LISA THAT THE CHAIR IS FOR MIKE SMITH.
NOW I, SHE TRYING TO COVER HERSELF BECAUSE SHE KNEW SHE SHOULDN'T WANT.
ASKED THE FACT I DIDN'T MAKE THAT UP.
MY EMPLOYEE GOT TIRED ON THE BS AND SHE WROTE THAT UP.
NOW YOU ALSO KNOW ON THE OTHER HANDOUT I GAVE SHOWS WHAT RECORD FURNITURE COSTS.
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THIS FANCY FURNACE COST 70 SOMETHING DOLLARS.NOW I THINK WHAT HERE TODAY IS, YOU KNOW, IF I'M A COMMISSIONER AND MAYBE, MAYBE SOME PEOPLE DON'T GET IT, I DUNNO IF I'M A COMMISSIONER AND SOMEBODY COMES TO ME AT BUDGET TIME AND TELL ME WHAT THEY WANT AND I PROVE THAT I'M OFFENDED THAT THEY PROCESS.
SO HERE WHAT WHAT THIS IS SHOWING IS THAT A LOT OF THIS MONEY THAT WAS PUT IN THERE FOR EQUIPMENT AND FURNITURE WAS NOT SPENT ON EQUIPMENT THAT WAS INTENDED TO GO INTO A VEHICLE.
OKAY, THAT'S TO THE BEST OF MY KNOWLEDGE, MAY I COMMENT ON THAT? THE AR AND THE SHOTGUN HAVE BEEN PURCHASED.
THE SHOTGUN HAS COME IN, THE AR HAS NOT COME IN YET.
THE GUN WRECK, THE FLASHLIGHT WAS UNDER ANTICIPATION.
I WAS GONNA GET VEHICLE AND I CAN'T SEE GOING AND SPENDING $800 FOR A GUN RACK TO PUT IN A CROWN PICK.
WHEN I CAN'T REPLACE THAT CAR WITH A CROWN VIC AND THAT SAME GUN RACK GET PLACED IN IT, TO ME THAT'S WASTE OF MONEY.
SO THE GUN RACK WAS NOT PURCHASED AND THE FLASHLIGHT WAS NOT BECAUSE I DIDN'T GET A VEHICLE, PUT THOSE OUT.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S 1059 TYPE ORIGINATION.
HIS BUDGET, SIR, WASN'T ANTICIPATED.
HE SUBMITTED THAT PAPERWORK WITH THE ITEMS IN THE PRICES AND I JUST ADDED IT UP IN 10 SO I KNOW HOW MUCH TO PUT IN THE LINE ITEM.
SO IT WASN'T QUITE 3000, BUT I PUT THE WHOLE THREE JUST IN CASE WE WERE SHIPPING OR SOMETHING CHARGE THAT I WOULDN'T KNOW ABOUT.
WELL HE HAD THE MONEY IN HIS LINE ITEM NEVADA.
YES, HE HAD THE MONEY IN HIS LINE ITEM.
BUT WHEN HE PRESENTED IT TO COURT, HE GAVE HIM A LIST OF WHAT HE WANTED.
THOSE CHAIRS ARE NOT ON THE LIST.
AND THAT'S WHY I'M SAYING NEEDS TO COME TO COURT, SAY, I DID NOT BUY ALL OF THIS.
I HAVE SO MUCH LEFT IN MY BUDGET, I'D LIKE TO MOVE IT AND BUY SOME OFFICE FURNITURE AND HAVE YOU APPROVED IT.
THAT WOULD BE THE CORRECT WAY TO DO IT BECAUSE WHEN YOU ADOPT THAT BUDGET, THAT BECOMES AN ORDER AND WE HAVE TO FOLLOW THAT.
WELL, I MEAN I CAN UNDERSTAND IF I WAS LOOKING AT MY BUDGET FURNITURE AND I HAVE 3000 IN, I WOULD ASSUME THAT FURNITURE, THAT'S WHY I SAID THE NEW BUDGET OKAY.
NEED TO DO ONE FOR OFFICE FURNITURE IS FURNITURE ONE FOR EQUIPMENT.
AND THIS WOULD NEGATE ANY OTHER ISSUES IN THE FUTURE.
YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND WHEN Y'ALL PROVED WE NEED TO SPEND 142,000 TO GET SOFTWARE AND GET THE DATA FOR 10 YEARS CONVERTED, THAT'S WHAT IT WAS CALLED.
OFFICE FURNITURE SLASH EQUIPMENT.
AND THAT'S WHAT WE'VE USED PRIOR THOSE YEARS.
AND MOST OF THE OTHER BUDGETS DOES NOT, MOST OF THE OTHER BUDGETS DO NOT HAVE A FURNITURE LINE ITEM.
I MEAN LIKE COMMISSIONERS OR NOT.
IN FACT, HE HAS TWO LAPTOPS ON THERE.
AND I THINK I HAVE A NOTE IT BESIDE IT BECAUSE GEORGE WAS GONNA HAVE TO PUT THAT IN HIS BUDGET TO BUY HIM THE LAPTOPS.
DO ALL THE OTHER CONSTABLES HAVE, UH, UM, IN THEIR BUDGET THAT THEY HAVE FURNITURE.
SO FURNITURE AND IN ALL THE FOUR, THE CONSTS.
I KNOW, I, I'D HAVE TO GO BACK AND LOOK.
PRECINCT ONE HAS, UH, A NEW EQUIPMENT LINE ITEM, UH, PRECINCT TWO HAS OFFICE FURNITURE AND NEW EQUIPMENT.
AND THEN, UM, PRECINCT THREE JUST HAS FURNITURE SLASH EQUIPMENT AND AS THE CUSTOMER.
AND PRECINCT FOUR HAS OFFICE FURNITURE, UH, ANY EQUIPMENT, WHAT, IS THERE A WAY TO, UH, IF THE COURT CHOSE TO ALLOW THE FURNITURE PURCHASE TO GO FORWARD, IS THERE A WAY THAT THAT CAN OCCUR? UH, WITH A BUDGET LINE ITEM TRANSFER OR SOMETHING OF THAT NATURE OR ALL THAT JUST ALLOW IF HE'S GOT THE MONEY IN THE BUDGET, IF, IF THE COURT CHOSE TO DO THAT.
WE HAVE, WE HAVE TO DO A BUDGET AMENDMENT.
YOU HAVE TO A BUDGET AMENDMENT BECAUSE TO,
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TO MOVE IT TO START ANOTHER CATEGORY, YOU SAYING? YEAH, IT WASN'T ON THIS LIST.AND THAT'S WHAT MY ESSENCE FOR SEBASTIAN WAS TRYING TO POINT OUT TO YOU IS THAT WHEN WE DO A BUDGET, WE NEED TO DO IT IN, IN FULL FOCUS, FINANCIAL TRANSPARENCY SO THE CITIZENS KNOW WHAT WE'RE BUYING AND HOW THEIR MONEY'S BEING SPENT.
AND IT HASN'T BEEN DONE, IT HASN'T BEEN DONE PROPERLY AND WE'RE JUST TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE DOING OUR JOB CORRECTLY AND FOLLOWING THE LAW AND GUIDANCE.
WE ALREADY SPENT ALL THE TIME IN EVERY COURT YOU GUYS WILL HAVE HER FULL IF YOU SEE SOMETHING THAT LOOKS STRANGE AND YOU HAVE TO APPROVE THAT THROUGH.
YOU KNOW, GOING FORWARD, ANYBODY ASK ANYTHING, THEY'VE GOT A LINE EVEN RESEMBLES WHAT THEY'RE ABOUT.
I'M OPEN AGAINST, OKAY, BECAUSE I'M TIRED OF DOING Y'ALL JOB.
Y'ALL WANT ME TO STOP THE SUSPEND AND Y'ALL HAVE THE COURAGE TO SIT THERE AND DO A TRUE BUDGET.
SO DON'T COME TO ME THE NEXT TIME YOU PAY BILLS AND I ORDER SOMETHING LIKE LAST TIME THEY SAID THAT'S Y'ALL.
I, JACK, UH, I GOT A QUESTION.
HOW COME WE HAVE ALL DIFFERENT CATALOGS FOR PEOPLE ORDERING? WHY DON'T WE HAVE THIS ONE CATALOG THAT WE GO WITH, WE HAVE A CONTRACT WITH
HE WANTS A, YOU REMEMBER I WALKED HERE THE FIRST TIME WE HAD THIS ISSUE WITH, UH, THE SHERIFF DEPARTMENT LYING ON THESE REALLY NICE FROM THE DEPARTMENT OVER THERE.
THAT'S A HUGE PROBLEM FOR YEAH.
TO DEPUTY TO CITY, ALL THAT I SIT IN, NO CHAIR WAS IN MY OFFICE WHEN I WALKED 10, 10 YEARS AGO.
UH, WE CAN'T FIGURE OUT A TRAIL OFF SUPPLY.
I THINK WE NEED TO PROBABLY GET SOME TRUTH LIKE JACK SAYS AND STAND UP AND SAY, HEY GUYS, IF IT'S NOT A TRAIL OFF SUPPLY, YOU BUY.
I I'M TRYING TO LISTEN TO THIS.
I THIS I LET HIM GET BY WITH IT.
AND JACK'S EXACTLY RIGHT, COURT, YOU SIT HERE, WE'RE MAKING JACK TRY TO DO DO THIS JOB AND WE SHOULD DO IT OURSELVES.
I ALSO GOT A NEW CHAIR FROM MATERIAL OFFICE SUPPLY FROM THE SCRATCH DOOR.
BUT, UH, SO WHAT WHAT WE'RE SAYING IS HE NEEDS TO COME BACK, MR HAS TO AMEND THE BUDGET, PUT A SEPARATE LINE ON THAT.
YOU HAVE TO AMEND THE BUDGET TO CHANGE IT FROM WHAT YOU SAID YOU WERE GONNA BUY TO BUY SOMETHING, TO BUY SOMETHING ELSE.
YOU AND JACK, UH, JACK, I KNOW WE, WE'VE HIT THE UH, FURNITURE AND EQUIPMENT LINE UP PRETTY HEAVY SO FAR THIS YEAR BECAUSE OF SOME OF THE REMODELING WE'VE HAD GOING ON.
WOULD THIS FURNITURE OTHER THAN THE JUDGE'S CHAIR, WHICH IS NOT IN THE TERRA CATALOG, IS THAT RIGHT? CORRECT.
WOULD THAT FURNITURE THAT THE OTHER FURNITURE BE ELIGIBLE TO, OR YOU'D BUY OUT OF THAT, OUT OF THAT LINE, OUT OF THE CHOOSE CONTROL OR WE CAN GET THAT LINE OUT QUITE HONESTLY.
YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, WE ALL KNOW WHAT'S CAUSING ALL THIS IS IS THE, THE BUILDING UPSTAIRS BUYING FURNITURE GOT EVERYBODY.
THAT'S WHAT CREATES, LIKE I SAY, OFFER THAT UP FROM BEGINNING, YOU KNOW, EQUAL ONE DAY ELSE BY MY CONCERN IN THE VERY END, YOU KNOW, I I'M REALLY SHOCKED THAT THE COURT IS NOT CONCERNED ABOUT, UH, WHAT SOMEBODY ASKED FOR ONE THING AND THEN GIVE THEM SOMETHING ELSE THAT'S JUST, THAT'S NOT GENTLEMAN, BUT I'LL BUY I'LL BUT IT BE, I'M GONNA GO REPRESENT, I'LL NOT ORDER A JUDGE THIS CHAIR
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BEEN A WHILE, IF THEY ONLY SPEND 28 50, YOU NEED TO ALLOW ME TO MOVE THE DIFFERENCE TO THAT CONTING LINEUP.BECAUSE PEOPLE WILL CONTINUE TO SPEND IT AND IT AND SOMETIMES THEY'RE TRYING TO CHARGE THINGS THAT LINEUP.
I'VE BEEN UNDER BUDGET EVERY YEAR.
I'VE BE UNDER BUDGET THIS YEAR.
OFFICER, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE YOU'D LIKE TO ADD? NO SIR.
JACK, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE YOU'D LIKE? I DO NOT.
KAREN, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING? NO SIR.
JOHN, DO YOU I DID, UM, A LITTLE HISTORICAL PERSPECTIVE FROM THE NEW COMMISSIONERS.
UM, I WAS CHIEF OF THE CIVIL SECTION OF DALLAS.
I HAD ATTENDED APPROXIMATELY 220 COMMISSIONERS COURT MEETING THERE AND, UM, DOING THE WORK HERE SINCE 2080 WAS THE FIRST TIME THAT I CAN RECALL AND PROBABLY 400 MEETINGS THAT I'VE BEEN TO THAT UH, SOMEONE HAS CHALLENGED, UH, PURCHASING AGENT AS PART OF THE COURT PROCESS.
AND I CAN ONLY IMAGINE THAT THAT WOULD INVITE IT A REGULAR, UH, CONCERN.
AND SO I URGE Y'ALL TO, UM, UH, CAUTIOUSLY CONSIDER THIS IS WHAT, OKAY.
I'M NOT TELLING YOU HOW TO VOTE, BUT IF YOU ENJOYED THIS DISCUSSION, PLEASE WANT COME.
I'M NOT ASKING THE TRANSFER FUNDS.
I'M NOT ASKING ABOUT THIS FURNITURE AS A GENERAL, I'M ASKING STRICTLY TO USE THE BUDGET PLAN ITEMS THAT RUN, THAT'S ALL I'M ASKING.
GENTLEMEN, WHAT'S YOUR PLEASURE? SO IF WE NEED TO AMEND THIS TODAY OR NOT, YOU JUST NEED TO IT UP OR DOWN OR YOU CAN ONE, I I DO IT UP AND DOWN VOTE, BUT YOU WHATEVER YOU WANT DO FINE.
OUTTA THE LINE ITEM THAT HE HAS.
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM, UH, MR. SHANE THAT, UH, THE ITEMS THAT THE CONSTABLE WISHES TO BUY WOULD HAVE TO COME FROM THE TERRELL OFFICE PRODUCT, WHICH IS OUR LOAN, OUR BIDDER.
UH, BUT IT WOULD BE PAID OUT OF THIS PARTICULAR LINE ITEM.
DOES HAVE THOUSAND DOLLARS IN FRIENDSHIP.
HE DOESN'T HAVE IT MUCH, BUT HE HAS ENOUGH TO BUY CHAIRS.
HOW MUCH DOES HE HAVE? OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD.
I KNOW BECAUSE HE'S ALREADY BOUGHT.
HE JUST TOLD YOU HE BOUGHT, HE BOUGHT SOME EQUIPMENT ALREADY.
WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH TO BUY HIS CHAIRS.
HE'S GOTTA MAKE TRANSFER FROM SOMETHING.
NO, HE HAD, HE DOES HAVE ENOUGH CHAIRS.
HE HAS ENOUGH TO, THERE'S MORE THAN ENOUGH LEFT.
YOU KNOW, I, I'D LIKE TO GET IT RESOLVED OR YOU CAN TAKE IT ONE OR TWO.
DON'T WE HAVE A MOTION ON? YEAH, WE HAVE A MOTION.
WE DO HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR.
UM, I GUESS I NEED TO CALL FOR A SECOND.
DO I HAVE A SECOND? DO I HAVE A SECOND? ONE MORE TIME TILL I HAVE A SECOND.
OKAY, I DECLARE THAT MOTION DEAD.
SO DO WE HAVE ANOTHER MOTION? I MAKE A MOTION TO TABLE.
NOW WE HAVE, WE CAN HAVE MORE DISCUSSION.
I DON'T WANNA HAVE DISCUSS THIS THING.
IT, IT'S A WASTE OF WHOEVER'S HERE, BUT I MEAN IT'S WASTE A LOT OF TIME.
IF WE NEED TO GO BACK AND IT COULD BE LESS THAN 30 DAYS TO GET THE BUDGET REED OR WHATEVER THE WORDING NEEDS TO BE.
PUT ANOTHER ITEM TO SEPARATE LIKE SOME OF THE OTHER S OFFICE DID AND ONCE FOR EQUIPMENT, ONE FOR FURNITURE.
MAKE THAT RIGHT HERE AND THEN COME BACK IN AND HE'S GOT HIS LINE ITEMS MONEY, IT'S THROUGH THE WRAP AND WE DON'T HAVE TO DO THIS ALL OVER AGAIN.
IS THAT, IS THAT CORRECT? YOU CAN ELIMINATE THAT WHOLE THING BY MAKING, MAKING A DECISION.
HE MADE THE MOTION TO PROVE HIM TO BUY IT OUT OF THAT LINE ITEM.
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TO USE THE VENDOR THAT WE USED FOR YEAH, THE MOTION ON THE TABLE.NOW THE FIRST AND SECOND IS, IS TO TABLE.
SO, OKAY, CONSTABLE, TAKE ONE MORE TIME.
TALKING ABOUT OFFICE COMPLIANCE AS THE VENDOR.
THERE'S FURNITURE THAT GETS BOUGHT FROM THE PRISON SYSTEM ALL THE TIME.
A CHAIR JUST GOT ORDERED FROM THEM FOR ONE OF THE JUDGES.
SO IT'S NOT LIKE WE DON'T USE THIS VENDOR.
THAT'S WHY THEY CALL THE JUDGE'S CHAIR.
BECAUSE THAT'S THE NAME THE CHAIR JUDGE.
THAT'S WHY THERE'S FIVE OF THEM SITTING IN THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE.
ANYTHING ELSE? YEAH, THAT'S, I I DON'T SEE MOVE FORWARD SPECIAL INDIVIDUAL HAVE
WELL, I I THINK THE COURT RIGHT NOW HAS BEEN GIVEN SOME NEW INFORMATION THIS MORNING, UH, JACK THAT PERHAPS THEY HAVE NOT SEEN BEFORE AND THAT MAY BE PART OF THE REASONING FOR A, UH, HELPFUL YEAH.
AND WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT, WE NEED TO SPECIFY WHAT KIND OF I, WE, WE HAVE A, IN THE, IN THE, UH, I WAS TOLD THAT THE FURNITURE OR ANYTHING IN, IN POLICY SAYING WHAT PARTICULAR KIND OF CHAIRS WE ALLOWED TO BUY.
I MEAN I KNOW WHAT WE HAVE ANNUAL CONTRACT THAT FURNITURE, SO IF YOU GUYS APPROVE A VEHICLE OKAY.
AND TAHOE, SO THEN YOU GONNA SAY THAT MAYBE ONE MAY ONE MIGHT ESCALATE NEXT TIME.
I I I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
I UNDERSTAND THAT WE HAVE A FURNITURE CONTRACT.
I'M NOT, I MEAN OR A OFFICE SUPPLY CONTRACT, BUT THEY DON'T HAVE A PARTICULAR ITEM.
SOMEBODY WANTS BUDGET THEN YOU'RE GONNA TELL ME THAT IF, IF I DECIDE JOHN DEER GONNA SAY WAIT A MINUTE, BUSINESS THE CASE.
NO, I MEAN THAT'S NO, NO WE CHANGED BACK IN THE DAY WE GOT EVERYTHING A BIT INVESTIGATION.
SO THEY HAVE TO HAVE MEAN WE WANT AND ALL I'M SAYING HAVE AN ORDER SAYING THAT WE STOPPING PEOPLE FROM I DON'T THINK, I DON'T THINK OR IT'S COMMON SENSE.
WE WANNA BUY SOMETHING CUSTOM MADE AS PRISON SYSTEM.
WE WANNA BUY SOMETHING FROM BY THE, THAT'S COMMON SENSE.
BUT DOES THAT, I MEAN KEEP SAYING I DON'T KNOW IF THEY DO OR NOT.
YOU KEEP SAYING THEY HAVE FILE OVER, THAT'S LET'S ABOUT THAT BECAUSE HE ALSO, THOSE WHICH I DID NOT, THOSE SHARES WERE PUT INTO THE JAIL AND THEY BUILT THE JAIL PART OF THAT WAS PART OF THE WHOLE I KNOW HEARING WHAT HE SAYING.
SO LISTEN TO THOSE SHARE WERE BOUGHT WHEN THE JAIL WAS BUILT.
ARCHITECT WAS INVOLVED IN THAT BUILDING.
WHAT THE ARCHITECT DESIGNED AND WHAT F YOU WANNA PUT IN THAT I CAN'T HELP THAT.
THE ONLY TIME THAT CHAIR WAS ORDERED, THE ONLY TIME I'VE EVER ORDERED CHAIR IN 10 YEARS, THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE WAS TO REPLACE THAT CHAIR THAT WAS ALREADY THERE TO HAD A NEW DEPUTY CHIEF THAT PUT IN PLACE.
I HAVE NOT ORDERED JUDGE CHAIR FOR ANYBODY BUT A JUDGE SINCE I I THAT TOO IN MY OFFICE.
I DUNNO, IT'S TORE UP CATALOG LIKE, BUT IT DOESN'T HAVE A LOGO ON IT.
IT DOESN'T COST IS THAT THE PRICE INCLUDED IN HERE? COMMISSION FOR HANDOUT? I'VE GOT ONE.
I WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR AND A SECOND, UH, I I THIS NEEDS, ALRIGHT, SO IT ALRIGHT WITH YOU IF YOU WITHDRAW YOUR SECOND AND YOU, YOU GOING WITHDRAW YOUR MOTION.
WHAT MOTION THAT WE ALLOW HIM TO BUY, UH, OFFICE PRODUCT CARE OFF SUPPLY TO FIT HIS NEEDS.
WHAT ABOUT THE ISSUE ABOUT THE JUDGE'S CHAIR? I THINK WE NEED TO CLEAR THAT UP AS MUCH AS WE CAN.
HE'LL, HE'LL BY CHAIR, LIKE ALL, ALL THIS, THE BIG GIFT SUPPLIES.
YOU SAID THEY HAD ONE THAT LOOKED SIMILAR TO IT? YES.
AND THIS, THIS IS WHAT YOU PUT IN YOUR, YOUR PRICE COURT.
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LIFE AGAIN, I'M, I GUESS I WAS KIND OF OUT BUT I THOUGHT IT WAS FOR JUDGE SMITH BUT THAT'S, I THOUGHT IT COME OUT WHEN WE CHARGED JUDGE THAT'S THE WAY IT'S OKAY.ALRIGHT, SO NEED YOUR MOTION AGAIN.
SO WE HAVE I ALLOWED TO, OKAY.
DID EVERYBODY HEAR THAT? DO I HAVE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND.
OKAY, SO MOTION CARRIED FORWARD TO ZERO AND THIS WILL BE SOMETHING THAT WE WILL ADDRESS IN OUR BUDGET WORKSHOPS THIS YEAR.
MAKE SURE WE HAVE AS MANY OF THESE THINGS ALL.
NEXT ITEM IS ITEM NUMBER 10 TO RONNIE OFIELD TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER APPROVING THE, UH, TREASURER'S MONTHLY REPORT.
RONNIE, I DIDN'T GET A HANDOUT.
WELL, WE HAVE TO HAVE THEM BY, UH, MONDAY.
WE'LL, WE'LL GET WITH YOU ON THE TIMING, BUT WE HAVE TO HAVE THEM SINCE WE ADOPTED THE NEW PROCESS.
REQUEST SO THEY KNEW WHEN REQUEST.
UH, THE GENERAL FUND HAD A BEGINNING VIOLENCE AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE TOP LINE OF 7,000,982.
3 56 60 RECEIPTS OF 9 MILLION 5 44 6 83 45.
DISBURSEMENTS OF 3 8 28 9 9, ENDING BALANCE.
13 SIX MONTHLY, MONTHLY SAT CASH SUMMARY WHERE OF 1,000,003 13 MILLION 7 22 8 91 69.
NONE OF THAT IS IN A SEGREGATED INVESTMENT.
WE DO HAVE THE SEGREGATED INVESTMENTS FOR THE 25,000 CONSTRUCTION FUND LAND OF 99, 8 34 AND THE MILLION OF THOSE INVESTMENTS OR AT THE, AND AGAIN, ONCE AGAIN POINTING OUT TO THE GENTLEMAN.
AND OUR GUESS IS THAT THE AMERICAN NATIONAL ENTRANCE INTEREST ON THE 24 20 5 MILLION OF ROAD BOND FUNDS APPROXIMATELY THAT THEY'RE HOLDING IS 1 59 94 VERSUS THE INTEREST INCOME ON THE INVESTMENTS HELD BY SCHOOL OF ONE 20 ON 8 99.
UH, THERE DISCUSSED THE LAST REPORT, SUBSTANTIAL DISCREPANCY OR DIFFERENCES IN THE INTEREST RATES.
AND, UH, NOW THAT WE'VE TAKEN CARE OF THE INVESTMENT OFFICER APPOINTMENT, I BELIEVE THAT WE'LL COMMUNICATE TO POOL TO MOVE THE 1 99 TO AMERICAN NATIONAL BANK.
WE'VE HAD DISCUSSIONS WITH AMERICAN PROCESS AS WELL.
NATIONAL NET INTEREST TO US IS APPROXIMATELY 10 TIMES PER MONTH PER DOLLAR
ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS? ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF THE INTEREST RATES ARE STILL LOW, YOU KNOW, UH, YES, SIR.
AND WE'VE HAD, UH, A TOTAL OF THREE MEETINGS WITH AMERICAN NATIONAL BANK, TWO OF THEM FAIRLY IN DEPTH,
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UH, TWO WEEKS AGO.AND AS WE DISCUSSED WITH THE BANK, WE WANT TO DEVELOP PROCESSES NOW OF COMMUNICATING AND TEAMING UP WHILE INTEREST RATES ARE LOW.
THE OF THOSE LOW, WHAT WE, WHAT WE'LL HAVE IS WE'LL HAVE A INTEND MACHINE SO THAT RATES DO INCREASE.
WE'LL HAVE THE SYSTEMS AND PROCESSES IN PLACE TO MAXIMIZE OUR RETIREMENT.
ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF THE, UH, A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE REPORT IS PRESENTED, SO MAY MAKES A MOTION TO SECOND.
OKAY, MR. PHILLIP, SECOND MOTION.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSIONS? ALL FAIR SAY AND THANK YOU.
ALRIGHT, ITEM NUMBER 11 IS FROM OUR TAX ASSESSOR COLLECTOR AND IT CONCERNS THE, UH, TAX ASSESSOR COLLECTOR REPORT FOR JANUARY, 2015.
THIS THE MONTH OF JANUARY, WE COLLECTED ABOUT 8.5, 8.8 MILLION FOR M AND O FOR THE GENERAL FUND AND OVER 1 MILLION FOR IMS. WE ALSO HAD SEVEN PROPERTIES THAT WE HAVE ROLLBACKS ON.
SO THAT'S A TOTAL OF $22,725 THAT WE HAD IN ROLLBACK TAXES FOR TOTAL QUESTIONS.
YEAR TO DATE IN THE GENERAL FUND OF $25,345,265.
THIS MONTH WE COLLECTED $1,449,339 FOR A TOTAL COLLECTIONS YEAR TO DATE.
UH, ALTHOUGH YOU HAVE, YEAH, $2,700 OF ROLLBACK TAXES AND THE TOTAL COLLECTIONS AND ROAD AND BRIDGE YEAR TO DATE IS 3,712,555.
AND AGAIN, ON THE ROLLBACK TAXES, THAT WAS SEVEN DIFFERENT PROPERTIES THAT WERE INCLUDED IN THAT.
WAS THAT THE THE BIG ONE, UH, THE BUCKY'S, OR DO YOU KNOW? WELL, UM, ONE OF 'EM, IT MAY HAVE BEEN IN LAST MONTH, BEFORE LAST MONTH WAS THE BUCKY'S, BUT WE DID HAVE 60 ACRES OFF OF 1641.
THAT MIGHT HAVE BEEN ALSO INCLUDED IN THAT.
THEN WE HAVE 180 ACRES OFF 2 25 AREA, THOSE BIG ONE.
AND JUST AS A REMINDER TO EVERYBODY, THOSE ROLLBACK TAXES WE DIDN'T BUDGET FOR, YOU KNOW, THERE'S NO GUARANTEE THAT WE, SO THAT'S, I MEAN, IT'S PROGRESSING LONG AFTER JUST FOUR MONTHS OF YEAR.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S AN EXTREMELY GOOD SIGN WHEN THE PROPERTY'S BEING CONVERTED LIKE THAT.
SO, ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MS RAP? JOHN, YOU SAID THE WHAT? THE GO BACK TAXES FOR THIS MONTH? 23 80 60? NO, 22, 25.
DID Y'ALL GET THE WRONG? UH, YES.
NO, BUT THAT'S THE RIGHT NUMBER.
SO NOW PROBABLY THE NUMBERS WILL MAKE MORE SENSE.
YEAH, YOU'RE ON THE SAME PAGE.
SO THE TOTAL COLLECTIONS FOR OUR GENERAL FUND YEAR TO DATE AND 25,000 3 25, 3 45 65.
AND THE ROLLBACK TAXES FOR JANUARY 27, 25.
SO OUR, OUR ROLLBACKS YEAR TO DATE ARE A HUNDRED GRAND, 1,509.
ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? MS. ALL RIGHT.
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER SHANE TO APPROVE THE REPORT AS PRESENTED.
DO WE HAVE A SECOND? ONE SECOND.
COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS SECONDS.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
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A.THE NEXT ITEM IS NUMBER 12 AND IT DEALS WITH AN ITEM WE DISCUSSED AT THE LAST MEETING, UH, TO, UH, CONSIDER AMENDING THE CURRENT YEAR BUDGET, UH, 2015 BUDGET TO DECREASE THREE MONTHS OF SALARY AND BENEFITS, SAVING FROM THE SHERIFF AND THE JAIL AND THE NINE ONE REGIONAL CALL CENTER DEPARTMENTS FOR COUNTY AUDITORS.
WORKSHEET FOR THE PURPOSE OF PURCHASING SHERIFF PATROL VEHICLES AND ACCESSORIES WITH REMAINING SAVINGS TRANSFERRED TO THE CONTINGENCY LINE ITEM IN THE GENERAL FUND IN DEPARTMENT 4 0 9.
KAREN, I BELIEVE YOU, YOU AND JACK WORKED ON THIS MAYBE SO, UH, YES.
PURCHASE OF AGENT WORKED WITH, UM, UH, CHIEF DEPUTY BEAVERS ON, UH, GETTING THE QUOTES ON THE WHISTLES AND HIS EQUIPMENT AND THE COURT.
AND THEN, UM, CHIEF BEAVER SUBMITTED TO ME WITH WORKSHEET AND UH, I PULLED THOSE VERY SIMILAR NUMBERS, BUT I LEFT THE BUFFER IN THE SALARY AND BENEFIT LINE ITEMS IN THE APARTMENT, THE PAYROLL APPROVAL THAT'LL HAPPEN AT THE END OF SEPTEMBER.
AND, UH, THE, THE DIFFERENCE I WANTED TO PUT LINE ITEM IN CASE WE AN EMERGENCY OF SOME SORT, NEED FIND SOME MONEY, WE DON'T HAVE IT.
SO THAT WAS MY WORKSHEET THAT I SUBMITTED Y'ALL TO APPROVE.
ALRIGHT, WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FROM ANYBODY? I JUST LIKE TO SHERIFF DEPARTMENT HERE FOR HELPING US OUT ON THE, ON THE BUDGET WORKING WITH US.
THIS IS EXACTLY, EXACTLY THE KIND OF COOPERATION I'VE BEEN HOPING FOR FOR THE LAST COUPLE YEARS.
I, I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT THE PERSONNEL WE'RE STILL ARE HURTING OUT THERE.
I, AND NOT BECAUSE WE'RE, WE'RE ALWAYS IN TO SAVING MONEY, BUT OUR PEOPLE ARE HURTING.
THE REASON WHY WE'RE SEEING THIS BIG SALE AND THIS WILL BE EIGHT VEHICLES.
THAT'S WHAT WE APPROVED THE LAST.
ALRIGHT GENTLEMEN, WHAT'S YOUR PLEASURE? HAVE A MOTION TO BE SECOND.
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM, UH, COMMISSIONER ALLEN TO ACCEPT THE AMENDMENT AS, UH, PROVIDED.
DO WE HAVE A SECOND? COMMISSIONER ROSA, SECOND MOTION.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
ITEM NUMBER 13 IS TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ADVERTISING A BID FOR THE ANNUAL CONTRACT FOR ELECTRICAL SERVICES.
UH, GENTLEMEN, OUR, OUR CONTRACT HAS EXPIRED AND, UH, EXPERTISE, ANYTHING YOU WANNA ADD TO THAT COMMISSION? SO THIS WOULD BE FOR WORK THAT OUR GUYS CANNOT DO.
IT'D BE FOR A MASTER ELECTRICIAN.
MATERIAL, RIGHT? YEAH, BUT IT'LL BE ADVERTISED WEEK.
BUT IT'S PRIMARILY BASED ON THEIR HOURLY.
IT'S, IT'S LIKE A, UH, A ELECTRICIAN AND A HELPER AND WHATEVER BASED LAST TIME I DID.
BASED ON THOSE INDIVIDUALS AND ALSO BASED ON MARKUP, THE PRODUCT SUPPLY.
WILL EACH VENDOR BE ABLE TO PUT THEIR OWN, UM, SPECIFICATIONS IN THERE FOR MARKUP PRODUCT OR IS THE BID DONE INCLUDE ONE? WELL WE DO, WE PUT A LINE ITEM THERE AND WE SAY, UH, UH, WE HAVE A RIGHT TO SUPPLY MATERIALS.
DO SO WHAT IS YOUR COST? SO EACH INDIVIDUAL PUT THEIR MARK.
I DON'T WHEN WE WOULD DO LIKE THE, UH, ARMY PROJECT INCREASE.
I'M TALKING ABOUT BEFORE, BEFORE, BEFORE THE UH, NINE JUST MAINTENANCE NORMALLY RUN.
AN EXAMPLE, YOU KNOW, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IMPLO, THIS OLD PARKING OR DRIVE THROUGH BANK THING OVER HERE, TURN IT INTO STORAGE.
VERY LIKELY WE'LL HAVE TO HAVE SOME MONEY.
YOU KNOW, UH, MASTER ELECTRICIAN, THEY HAVE LICENSE ELECTRICIANS, SO.
DO WE HAVE ANY UH, OTHER QUESTION? I'M SORRY.
NO, JUDGE, ONE THING I'D LIKE TO SAY IS, IS WE APPRECIATE THIS CONTRACT FOR US BECAUSE IT HAS SAVED US QUITE A BIT OF MONEY OUT THERE.
UH, BECAUSE WE'VE HAD SOME PROBLEMS WITH THAT BUILDING AND THE LIGHTS OUT FRONT AND WE HAVE TO UTILIZE THEM QUITE A BIT TO TROUBLESHOOT A LOT OF OUR,
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UH, LIGHTS OUTSIDE AND WITH THE JAIL SETTLING.SO THEY'VE DONE AN OUTSTANDING JOB FOR US.
WE, I ADMIT WE SPENT QUITE A BIT OF MONEY WITH TRYING TO TROUBLESHOOT A LOT OF STUFF WE'RE DOING BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE A MASTER ELECTRICIAN ON SITE.
LOT DO, DO YOU STILL HAVE SOMEBODY IN YOUR MAINTENANCE WITH THIS H STACK CERTIFIED? YES.
OTHER, UH, ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS ON THE BID FOR, UH, THE, UH, ELECTRICAL REPAIR SERVICES, I GUESS REPAIR CONSTRUCTION SERVICES? IF YOU, I DON'T, I'M NOT GIVING YOU GUYS DATES TODAY BECAUSE WE GOT YEAH, I, I DON'T WANT SIGN DATES PERMISSION.
COMMISSIONER ALLEN MAKES A MOTION AND COMMISSIONER A SECOND MOTION.
ALL HE UH, ITEM NUMBER 14 IS TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ADVERTISING FOR AN ONLINE AUCTION THROUGH RENEE BASE AUCTIONER TO SELL COUNTY SURPLUS PROPERTY.
JUDGE IS WELL PASSED BY TO GET OF IT'S GOOD USED EQUIPMENT.
THAT'S NOT A EXPERIENCE OPERATE ITSELF.
JACK DOES THAT AND WE MAY WANT TO JUST TALK ABOUT THAT, BUT YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT THAT PRETTY GOOD SIZE ELECTRICAL GENERATOR IN THE OLD JAIL.
UH, THAT DOES NOT, WE DON'T USE IT.
IS IS THAT SOMETHING, UH, WE CAN, IS THAT SOMETHING WE SHOULD PROBABLY PUT ON THERE WAY GET RID OF IT? SOMEONE, I I DUNNO WHAT THAT'S GONNA BE A MAINTENANCE EXPERT.
IS THAT A BACKUP FOR THE, IS THAT WHAT TOLD IS THE BACKUP? IT WAS A BACKUP FOR THE OLD SHERIFF'S OFFICE.
NOT, I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF IT EVEN RUNS.
YEAH, SINCE WE MOVED DOWN, I I HAVE NOT PUT MY HAND.
I MEAN WAS IT CLOSE TO TOWER? COME ON.
I THINK IT SERVICE EMISSIONS UP NOW.
IT'S A BIG OLD LAND GENERATOR.
IF YOU LIKE S BRING IT UP TO STANDARD ON YEAH.
BUT WATCH HAVE, YEAH, WE'RE COUNTY.
IF YOU, IF YOU JUST HAVE IT AS A WORK GENERATOR SOMEWHERE, IT DOESN'T HAVE TO PASS THE TEST.
ALRIGHT, SO WHAT'S YOUR PLEASURE ON ITEM 14? ALRIGHT, COMMISSIONER SHANE MAKES THAT MOTION.
ITEM 50 FOR AN ANNUAL CONTRACT FOR COUNTYWIDE JANITORIAL SERVICES.
YOU HAVE TO TALK ABOUT THAT TIME AND TIME.
WE'VE GOT ONE THAT'S PRETTY CLOSE READY TO GO OUT.
UH, UH, IT'S GONNA BE A CHALLENGE.
UH, I'M NOT SURE WHAT LEVEL OF CLEANING DECIDE CLEANED.
DO THAT OR WE HIRE SOME INHOUSE.
LET SEE WHAT WE CAN COME UP WITH BEARD.
WHAT THEY LOOK TWO, LOOK AT IT.
EACH AREA LEVEL SERVICE WE HIRE PROFESS DO THIS.
OKAY, WHAT'S YOUR PLEASURE ON ITEM NUMBER 50? MOTION SHANE.
A THOSE OPPOSED, UH, 16 IS TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ADVERTISING BID FOR AN ANNUAL CONTRACT FOR UNIFORMS FOR THE COUNTY SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT.
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MOTION APPROVE THAT YOU MAKE THAT MOTION.UH, COMMISSIONER ALLEN MAKES THAT MOTION.
DO WE HAVE A SECOND? I SECOND.
DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
THOSE OPPOSED? UH, ITEM NUMBER 17 IS TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER PURCHASING ONE, UH, F SEVEN 50 TRUCK PRECINCT FOUR ROAD RIDGE THROUGH THE BY BOARD CONTRACT NUMBER FOUR THREE OH DASH 13.
ONCE AGAIN, YOU PUT TOGETHER A PACKAGE UP THERE.
TRUCK IS 69,009 ALL REQUIRE I HAVE A RECOMMENDATION FROM OUR FIRST AGENT.
YES, MR. ALLEN HAS MADE A MOTION TO UH, UH, TO APPROVE THIS TO BILL S MR. PHILLIPS SECONDS.
UH, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
ITEM NUMBER 18 IS TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER PURCHASING ONE BEAR CAP BC 5 0 3 ASPHALT SPREADER PRECINCT FOUR ROAD BRIDGE THROUGH THE BUYBOARD CONTRACT 4 24 13.
JIM, THIS IS THE OTHER HALF THAT PACKAGE ON THAT IT ALSO CONTRACT 98,000 1 9 6.
IT ALSO LEADS ALL REQUIREMENTS.
OKAY, YOU HAVE A RECOMMENDATION FROM THE FIRST AGENT? WE HAVE A MOTION FOR THE GROUP MOTION TIL AND COMMISSIONER MOTION, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
IS THAT GONNA BE I'D ONE MORE THING UP HERE.
JOB WE'VE ANNEX AND THE, UH, I SPENT A LOT OF TIME ON THOSE.
PERSONAL WORK, RIGHT? PLEASE DON'T CALL ME IF YOUR WATER NOT HIGH OR YOU PLEASE CALL AND WE NEED TO, WE NEED TO HAVE LITTLE MORE FORMAL SYSTEM ON THAT RIGHT NOW.
THOSE CALLS CAN BE DIRECTED DOWN TO MY OFFICE AND UH, ENGINE CA CAN GET THAT OUT PRIMARILY WITH PAUL AND NEST GOING OUT.
SO, UH, WE, WE PROBABLY NEED TO FORMALIZE THAT A LITTLE BETTER, BUT FOR THE TIME BEING JUST DO THAT.
I THOUGHT YOU LIKED MAINTEN SHORT.
I'LL BE ONE THE OTHER I'LL BE CONSTRUCTION WORK ACTUALLY.
THE UH, DISCUSSION ITEM NUMBER 20, I'M SORRY, NUMBER 19 IS DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACTION ON THE ECO STATION PRICING AND HOURS OF OPERATION.
UH, WE, WE'VE COVERED, YOU ALWAYS LOSE MONEY TO OPERATE THE NEGOTIATION THAT GRANT MONEY FROM YEARS.
UM, I DON'T KNOW OF ANY WAY MAKE THAT EVEN MAKE THOUSANDS OF BUT ON US BECAUSE THE PRICES ARE KIND OF HIGH COMPARED TO SOME OF THE OTHER PLACES.
I GUESS THAT'S ALWAYS BEEN THE, I THEY TRIED SATURDAYS.
I, THEY DID THREE, FOUR MONTHS.
SO THAT DOESN'T, I COME OUT AND I'M DUMP A MACHINE, A MATTRESS, I'M GONNA CHARGE YOU 20.
YOU GONNA THE STATION, THEY WON'T LET HIM COME IN.
YOU KNOW, I NEED INPUT BECAUSE I DON'T THINK I'M THE ONE WHO NEEDS TO BE TOTALLY IN CHARGE OF THAT.
SO FOR DISCUSSION TODAY, TAKE ANY ACTION.
SO FILED HOW THE CITIZENS TO USE IT, IT'S NOT IN AS POSSIBLE.
YEAH, THAT'S, I MEAN THIS IS JUST KIND OF TALKING OUT LOUD AND AS PART OF THAT DISCUSSION, IF WE ARE ABLE AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE, THERE'S NO SET THIS, IF WE ARE ABLE TO DEVELOP A COUNTYWIDE MAINTENANCE
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FACILITY, UH, AND ROAD FACILITY WHERE WE COULD HAVE, YOU KNOW, SHOULD WE EVER GO TO THE UNIT SYSTEM, WOULD IT BE FEASIBLE AT THAT TIME TO MAYBE MOVE THE ECO SYSTEM OR THE ECO STATION TO THAT AREA? WHEREVER THAT WINDS UP IN, I DUNNO WHAT WE GET INTO FROM THE CITY ON ROAD OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT BECAUSE IT'S IN A RURAL AREA NOW, NOT COUNTY.I, I THINK THAT UH, UNLESS YOU HAVE SOME MULTIPLE LOCATIONS THAT PEOPLE ARE GONNA BE HESITANT TO DRIVE, YOU KNOW, FROM MAY.
YEAH, WELL EVEN WE HAD THAT COMPANY THAT WAS GONNA BUILD DRIVE THING I GUESS.
I DUNNO WHAT, BUT THAT WOULD BE GOOD IF THAT WORK.
LOOK HOW MUCH MONEY Y'ALL HAD TO HAVE BEEN THE BUDGET TO COVER ALL THOSE COSTS.
COUNTY WHAT WOULD HAPPEN? AND AGAIN, TALKING ABOUT IT WAS LIKE 105,000.
TALKING THAT WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF WE JUST SHUT IT DOWN? WE WOULD SPEND HALF OUR TIME PICKING UP TRASH OFF THE, WELL THERE'S STILL ONE IN AND ONE IN COST.
THAT WAY I KNOW THAT, I'M NOT SURE WE COULD SHUT IT DOWN BECAUSE OF THE WAY WE GOT THE MONEY.
I DUNNO WHAT THE TIME DO THAT I JUST, YEAH, I YOUR DIDN'T COST A WHOLE HUNDRED CONTAINERS FROM EVERY TIME THEY HAUL ONE, THEY CHARGE US $400 OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
I HAVE THEM AT LEAST TWICE A WEEK AND THEY GOT LAST YEAR TO PICK UP THE HOUSEHOLD HAZARD WASTE LIKE 3,200.
I GUESS THAT'S, IT'S GONNA CONTINUE TO BE A MONEY LOSING THING.
IT'S GONNA COST US JUST HOW DO YOU MANAGE THE, BUT IF YOU DON'T HAVE IT THEN IT'S LIKE HAVE FREE TIRE CENTER WOULD COME DROP THE TIRE JUST TO SAY YOU CAN HAVE THE PICK UP ON THE SIDE.
MAYBE WE, YOU DON'T HAVE A CHOICE, RIGHT? JUDGE, MAYBE GET MARILYN INVOLVED, MAYBE SHE MIGHT BE USING SOME OR SOMETHING.
THE ONE THAT USED TO RUN THE, THE OTHER SIDE OF IT.
I THINK SHE'S GONE NOW BUT SHE'S STILL INVOLVED.
SHE MIGHT HAVE SOME SUGGESTIONS.
WELL IN THE UH, CO-OP MIND TOO.
CHARLES WOOD MIGHT HAVE THINK THEY MIGHT TAKEN, I DUNNO WHAT WE GET INTO, HOW WE TRANSFER.
WELL WHAT IF WE MOVE THIS DOWN JUST DO TO TWO DAYS A WEEK? LIKE, LIKE, UH, MONDAY, WEDNESDAY, WEDNESDAY, FRIDAY.
DON'T YOU SEE HOW THAT WORKS FOR A LITTLE BIT? LET'S SEE IF WE CAN, WELL WE, YOU CAN'T JUST HAVE CANS LIKE, LIKE WE DO.
WE DON'T HAVE ANYBODY TO TAKE CARE OF THERE.
THE BIG LIKE YOU DO FOR THE TIRES AND THEN WE HAVE THE BIG FOR THE METAL AND THE OTHER STUFF, YOU KNOW IS A LOT OF THE CALLS DO THE EMPLOYEE THAT STAYS THERE.
HOW MUCH MONEY DO HAVE WE TAKEN IN FOR PEOPLE? I DUNNO, THEY DON'T TAKE CASH.
WE DON'T HAVE CREDIT CARD MACHINE.
DO WE HAVE I THAT TO THE COUNTY TREASURER? TREASURER? IT, IT'S NOT ENOUGH.
IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT ENOUGH TO COVER, IT'S NOT 10 OUT HERE OR ANYTHING.
IT'S, IT IS A REALLY SMALL NUMBER.
I CAN CHECK AND LET EMAIL Y'ALL AND LET YOU KNOW.
WELL, BECAUSE THAT MIGHT BE THE SIDE JUST BECAUSE YOU'RE CALLING OFF.
WELL YOU COULDN'T LEAVE IT OPEN WITHOUT SOMEONE BEING THERE.
CAN I'M JUST TALKING ABOUT IS THAT THE ONE THAT WE HAD TO DO THE CLAIM ON THE INSURANCE? LAURIE? OKAY.
YOU HAD TO GET IT REPAIRED ALREADY.
BILL ALL THE NO, NO, BUT I GOT RID OF THE EMPLOYEE.
YOU JUST HAVE CAN THERE AND LET PEOPLE CAN, LEMME SAY THIS, UH, WHEN I COME BACK INTO OFFICE, UH, WE WERE SPENDING A LOT OF MONEY WITH THE CITY OF PAYING FOR THE CAN THAT SITS UP THERE.
SO ANYWAY, WE GOT THIS BILL GOING WHERE WE USED YOUR SHEET THAT, UH, CHARGES.
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SO THEY GO TO THE TAX OFFICE IN TER NOW TO UH, PAY IT AND GO THAT.AND WE HAVE REDUCED OUR COST IMMENSELY RIGHT HERE.
AND SO THE CITY OF KNOWS THAT WE'RE, WE'RE CHARGING AND WE'RE TRYING TO CLOSE TO STAY OUT THERE.
SO UH, YOU GO IN THERE WITH A PERMIT, THOSE TWO.
SO JASON DO YOU WANT US TO TAKE ANY ACTION ON THAT? NO, I JUST TAKE TALK ABOUT, WELL WE TALKED ABOUT IT.
WE'RE NOT GONNA TAKE ANY ACTIONS.
IF YOU'D LIKE TO PUT THAT IN FORM.
MOTION MAKE MOTION FOR TABLE NUMBER 19.
ALRIGHT, SO COMMISSIONER ALLEN SECOND MOTION.
19TH COMMISSIONER ALL FAVOR SAY A THOSE AGAINST ITEM NUMBER 20 IS TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACTION ON COVER SIZE AND PERMITTING ENFORCEMENT.
DO WE HAVE ANYTHING IN THE COUNTY THAT WE HAVE TO GO OUT AND WE CAN IMPORT PEOPLE PUTTING IN COVERAGE? WHAT MINIMUM SIZE IT HAS TO BE.
HOW LONG IT BE? THAT'S UP TO EACH INDIVIDUAL COMMISSIONER YOUR HONOR TOO.
THEY HAVE TO HAVE A PERMIT TO INSTALL ONE.
THEY GO THE PUBLIC WORKS AND GET A FORM AND THEN THAT'S SUBMITTED TO THE, TO THE PRECINCT.
AND THEN YOU GO OUT THERE, THEY'RE NEAR THE TOP OF THE HILL AND YOU SEE THAT ALL THEY NEED IS A 15 INCH.
UM, THEN YOU RECOMMEND 15 AND THEY'RE NEAR THE BOTTOM OF THE HILL AND THEY NEED TWO 20 FOURS.
IS THERE A FEE FOR THAT? IT'S IN THE PERMIT.
YOU GET REIMBURSED FOR THE WE DON'T SUPPLY.
Y'ALL CROSSTALK BUT CAN'T HEAR ON THREE.
WHAT'D YOU SAY? YEAH, HE'S JUST TALKING ABOUT NEW PROPERTY.
IF SOMEBODY COMES A NEW OKAY AND THEY, WE GO OUT AND TELL THEM WHAT SIZE, HOW BIG IT NEEDS TO BE AND WHAT IT, AND THEN THE INDIVIDUAL PROPERTY OWNERS RESPONSIBLE FOR INSTALLING IT.
OUR ONLY REQUIREMENT IS THAT WE TELL WHAT SIDE AND ON THE LENGTH.
I KNOW IN MY PRECINCT IN THE PAST IT LOOKS LIKE THEY'VE BEEN ALLOWING THEM TO PUT IN 20 FOOT, WHICH IS WAY TOO SHORT.
THEY WIND UP RUNNING OVER THE ENDS OF IT BEFORE THEY EVER GET THE HOUSE IN OR YOU KNOW, THE HOUSE BUILT.
SO I STARTED RECOMMENDING A 24 OR 30 FOOT PLUS THE SAFETY ENDS.
UH, 30 FOOT IS, IT'S ALMOST ALWAYS SAFE.
YOU KNOW THEY GET A PROJECT COMPLETED WITHOUT DEMOLISHING THE CODE.
OUR REQUIREMENTS DOES THE SAFETY UNITS HAVE TO BE, THAT IS A REQUIREMENT.
MOST OF THE COUNTY RELATIVE SAM, THEY CAN'T EXPLAIN WHY WITH THE TRACTOR TRAILER, YOU KNOW, OR EVEN THE PICK IN THE TRAILER.
SO THEY WIND UP CRUSHING THEM BEFORE THE JOB, BUT THAT IS UP TO EACH INDIVIDUAL.
SO DO WE NEED TO TAKE ANY ACTION ON THAT DISCUSSION? UH, I, WE NEED TO TAPE IT.
UH, THE NEXT ITEM OF NUMBER 21 IS IT'S TO DISCUSS CONSIDER ACTION ON THE DOWNING.
IS THAT HOW THE EXPIRATION COMPANY REQUESTING PERMISSION TO DO SEISMIC WORK ON COUNTY ROADS NEAR THE ANDERSON COUNTY LINE? THIS
DID Y'ALL GET A COPY OF THE MAP? YES.
WOULD YOU LIKE TO COME UP ADDRESS COURT PLEASE? NEWMAN TELL US, TELL THE COURT EXACTLY WHAT YOU'RE GONNA DO AND I DUNNO IF Y'ALL ARE FAMILIAR WITH SEISMIC.
ARE YOU FAMILIAR WITH SEISMIC BEEN DONE? UH, THERE'S TWO.
WHAT WE DO IS VIBRATIONS TO GET, THERE'S TWO WAYS WE MAKE VIBRATIONS.
ONE IS DRILL HOLE AND WE PUT A CHARGER ANOTHER WAY IS WE USE A VIBRATOR TRUCK.
THE BEST WAY I CAN DESCRIBE IT'S A BIG TRACTOR.
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AND PUT DOWN ON THE BA ON DROP IT TO THE GROUND AND VIBRATE THE PAD TO GET OUR VIBRATIONS.AND WHAT WE'D LIKE TO DO IS IF YOU CUT, THERE'S A COUPLE DIFFERENT THINGS THAT WE CAN DO.
I'D LIKE TO BE ABLE TO USE THE COUNTY TO VIBRATE ON AND TO PUT OUR RECORDING EQUIPMENT, WHICH THERE'S NO DIGGING ON ANY IN THE
AND THE RECORDING EQUIPMENT IS ABOUT A FOOT SQUARE BOX, FOOT SQUARE, ABOVE FOOT HIGH.
IT'S GOT
UM, I LIKE TO BE ABLE TO DO THE TRUCKS AND THE, OUR SENSORS IF I CAN.
UH, IF Y'ALL DON'T WANT THAT, I'D LIKE TO BE ABLE TO PUT THE SENSORS IN ANOTHER DRIVEWAY IF I CAN.
IF Y'ALL DECIDE NOT AGAINST THAT, I'D LIKE TO GET A, UH, I'M NOT SURE, HAS IT BEEN HENDERSON COUNTY? WE GOT A ROAD SO THAT WE CAN MOVE OUR EQUIPMENT FROM PROPERTY TO PROPERTY, BUT I DON'T KNOW WHAT DOES THAT TRACTOR WEIGH THAN 60, 60,000 PIECE WHEN IT VIBRATES THE ROAD, WHEN THE PAD GOES DOWN ROAD, DID YOU SEE ANY, DOES ABOUT 15 SECONDS OR SO? IT YEAH, THEY MIGHT DO IT 15 SECONDS AND WAIT A LITTLE BIT.
THEY MIGHT DO THREE 15 SECOND JUST DEPENDING ON ALL THE EQUIPMENT.
BUT FOR THE MOST PART THEY'LL DO THAT.
THEY'LL GO MAYBE 300 YARDS UP AND DOING A AND THERE'S THREE OF 'EM BACK TO BACK WHEN THEY DO THE
SO YOU, YOU'D USE THE COUNTY ROAD WOULD LIKE TO YES.
AND YOU'D BE THERE HOW LONG, I MEAN, DOES IT TAKE YOU TO VIBRATE? WELL IF EVERYTHING GOES GOOD, NO MECHANICAL BREAK DOWN, NO NOTHING.
THEY MIGHT BE THERE ON THAT SPOT FIVE MINUTES AND THEN MOVE TO THE NEXT SPOT.
HOW FAR, I MEAN HOW OFTEN DO YOU DO IT? 200 YARD, 500 YARD, TWO OR 300 FEET? PROBABLY RIGHT NOW AS BEST I CAN, I HAVEN'T BEEN GIVEN THOSE PARAMETERS YET, BUT THAT'S WHAT IT USUALLY IS ORDER.
WHAT KIND OF DAMAGE WOULD DO TO PAPER? IT SHOULDN'T DO ANYTHING.
I HOW MUCH DOWN PRESSURE DOES HE HAVE ON THAT PLATE? HAS IT GOT THE WHOLE 60,000 POUNDS? IT'S GOT THE WHOLE 60, BUT IT'S, LIKE I SAID, IT'S SPREAD OUT OVER FOUR SQUARE, ABOUT FOUR SQUARE.
UH, THEY HAVE DONE, I'VE SEEN I DIRT GUY DUG HOLE, PUT EGGS IN THERE.
HE UP PUT THE, WELL THERE'S UH, I CAN'T REMEMBER THE NAME.
THERE'S UH, I DON'T DUNNO, YOU JUST HAVE TO MARK THE MAP NAMES HERE.
THERE'S ONE OR TWO DIRT ROADS THAT COME OFF 40 44 HILL THAT ARE IN THE LITTLE HILL.
THERE'S SO MANY HOUSES UP THERE.
I DUNNO IF WE'LL BE ABLE TO DO THAT.
BUT SURVEYOR EXACTLY WHERE THEY CAME.
THIS Y'ALL ARE DOING OIL EXPLORATORY.
WHAT TYPE OF BOND? WELL YOU MENTIONED WE A VICTIM PARTY FOR THE COURT.
WHAT ABOUT THE FLAGMAN? WE GOT OUR OWN, UNLESS Y'ALL SAY WE NEED SOMETHING ELSE.
LIABILITY INSURANCE, I MEAN SOMETHING LIKE THIS.
OH, YOU WANNA DISCUSS? WELL, AT THIS POINT IN TIME WE REALLY HAVEN'T RECEIVED ANY TYPE OF PROPOSAL OR CONTRACT.
WE HAVE A REQUEST OF COMMISSION, BUT UM, IF YOU THE COURT IS SERIOUS DR.
PURSUING THIS, THEN WE WOULD REQUEST SOME TYPE OF A PROPOSED CONTRACT, UM, INCLUDING LIABILITY IN THAT BOTTOM AMOUNT INSIDE OF IT, UH, SO THAT YOU GUYS CAN TAKE A LOOK AT IT.
AND MAKELY AND, AND LEMME SAY THIS TOO, UM, WE HAVE SOME ROAD ISSUES RIGHT NOW AND ONE
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OF THE THINGS THAT I'LL SAY, SOME OF THE CALCULATIONS FOR WHAT ROAD DAMAGES ARE, UH, 40,000 SOUNDS LIKE A LOT REPAIR.IT'S, IT DOES NOT COVER AS MUCH AS YOU MIGHT.
AND YOU HAD MENTIONED THREE MILES, THREE SQUARE MILES.
IT'S NOT THREE SQUARE MILES, BUT I'M NOT SURE HAVE ANY ROAD MILES.
UM, WE WOULD NEED TO, WE WOULD NEED TO MAKE ROADS.
YOU CAN GO ON MY PUT OUR IN THERE, MAKE SURE GOT WHAT ROADS ON TAKE BEFORE YOU.
Y'ALL DON'T LET US USE THE ROAD TO BYLAW.
I'D LIKE TO BE, YOU KNOW, TO GET YOUR PERMISSION AND TO DO TO HOWEVER Y'ALL NEED ME TO DO IT SO WE CAN MOVE OUR EQUIPMENT FROM PROPERTY TO PROPERTY.
I DON'T THINK WE CAN, WE HAVE ANY REGULATIONS, NO AUTHORITY OVER THAT.
AS LONG AS YOUR DESTINATION IS ON ONE OF THOSE COUNTY ROADS.
WELL I JUST, I'M JUST TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT I, IT MIGHT BE A GOOD IDEA TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, ROAD BOND, BOND UP.
WE NEED TO GET HER JOB AND THEN DETERMINE THAT ATTORNEY.
DID YOU HAVE A CONTRACT WITH THE HENDERSON COUNTY? THEY HAD THEIR, THEY JUST WANTED ME TO SUBMIT THE ROADS THAT I WAS GONNA BE ON AND THAT'S WHAT I GAVE THEM.
I GAVE HER THE ROADS AND SHE MADE UP THE CONTRACT.
SHE BEING THE ATTORNEY FOR UH, THE JUDGE'S SECRETARY IS ONE.
I THOUGHT SHE THE JUDGE WE WOULD PREFER IF THEY WOULD IN A CONTRACT TO US.
DO YOU, WELL END OF THE MEETING MAYBE YOU CAN GET WITH THEM, GET THAT DONE.
SO RIGHT NOW YOU'RE JUST ASKING, UH, FOR PERMISSION TO DO THIS AND I DON'T KNOW IF WE'RE READY TO GIVE PERMISSION, BUT WE CERTAINLY CAN ASK YOU TO PROCEED I THINK.
WELL THAT'S WHAT I WAS TRYING TO FIND OUT WHAT I HAVE TO YEAH, WHEN I, WHAT DO I NEED TO PERMISSION? DO YOU HAVE ANY, UH, WHAT, WHAT IS YOUR DISTANCE FROM FROM HOUSES THAT YOU REQUIRE? ARE YOU REQUIRED BY LAW TO STAY A CERTAIN DISTANCE? THE INDUSTRY STANDARD INDUSTRY DISTANCE THAT ABOUT THREE.
HAVE Y'ALL EVER HAD ANY ISSUES WITH SOMEBODY COMPLAIN ABOUT FOUNDATION DAMAGE? I MEAN YOU EVER HAD ANY YEAH, WELL WE DO HAVE, WE'RE GONNA HAVE VIBRATION MONITORS OUT THERE WHEN WE DO THE JOB AND THEY'RE GONNA SET UP ON ANY DWELLINGS THAT ARE THERE SO THEY CAN MONITOR WHAT KIND OF VIBRATIONS WE'RE PUTTING IN AT WHAT DISTANCE.
AND IF WE GET OVER WHATEVER THE STATE SAYS OR THE INDUSTRY SAYS THEY SHUT 'EM OUT, THAT'D BE MY ONLY CONCERN IS WE ALLOW 'EM TO DO THAT ON THE COUNTY ROADS AND THEN THEY COME BACK AND SAY WE WERE A PARTY IN THE DAMAGE.
YOU MUST SOMETIMES FELL PRETTY FOR THE MOST PART.
SOME OF, OKAY, SO WHAT DO WE NEED TO DO? SOMEBODY, JOHN, WHAT DO YOU, WHAT DO YOU AND UH, REBECCA RECOMMEND WE, WHAT KIND OF ACTIONS SHOULD WE TAKE ON THIS? UM, AT, AT THE RISK OF BEING US AND NEIGHBORLY? UM, MY FIRST OBSERVATION IS IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S AN INDIVIDUAL BUSINESS BANK ON THEIR PROPERTY AND, AND I SHARE, UH, COMMISSIONER AL'S CONCERN THAT WE'RE BEING A PARTY TO SOMETHING LANDOWNERS MAY NOT KNOW ABOUT.
SO WITH THAT GENERAL OBSERVATION, SECOND THING I WOULD IS I'D LIKE TO SEE A PROPOSED CONTRACT OF WHAT IT'S THAT WE'RE EXPECTED TO DO.
AND REALLY WE'RE NOT THEIR LAWYERS.
AND IF THEY'RE ASKING FOR SOMETHING IN THE COUNTY, I'LL TELL YOU, UM, FROM, FROM OUR EXPERIENCE WITH THE IMAGE ROADS BEFORE
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IS THAT BOY IT'S EXPENSIVE.IT GETS TERRIBLY AIRS AND YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU SAY HOW, HOW MUCH IS A BOND ALMOST TELL YOU WHATEVER.
PARDON? WE'VE BEEN DOWN THAT ROAD.
I'M NOT COULD I'M JUST SAYING USE, USE IT TO VIBRATE ON THE ROADS.
I MEAN THAT'S FINE IF WE CAN'T DO THAT, I'M GONNA ASK FOR EVERYTHING I CAN GET.
BUT JUST TO MOVE OUR EQUIPMENT, NOW YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE INDIVIDUAL LANDOWNERS.
THIS HAS GOT, THAT'S GOT NOTHING TO DO WITH US COMING USE.
IF WE DON'T GET THEIR PERMISSION, WE DON'T GO ON THEIR PROPERTY UNLESS THERE'S AN EXTENUATING.
LET'S SEE A CONTRACT, OKAY, WE HAVE A PROPOSED, UH, DOCUMENT THAT'S ATTACHED PART OF THE GENERAL ITEM AND NOT BEGIN TO CONCERNS CONTRACT.
SO REALLY WE DON'T NEED TO TAKE ANY ACTION OTHER THAN MAYBE YOU ASK THE COMPANY.
UH, TO WORK WITH OUR UH, UH, ATTORNEYS CONTRACT, THE ACTUAL DOWTY IS THE OIL COMPANY, THE ACTUAL COMPANY THAT'S GONNA BE DOING TEST TESTING OF DAWSON, DAWSON, DAWSON.
AND UH, PERMIT THAT I HAD JUST SOMEBODY ELSE THAT'S ON THAT PERMIT THAT I GAVE YOU.
DID YOU HAVE SOME QUESTION? YOU HAVE? YEAH, THE AGENDA ITEM, THE WAY IT'S WORDED, UM, I GUESS WE WOULD DENY PERMISSION THEN TO DO WORK ON COUNTY PENDING, UM, CONTRACT SUBMITTED TO OUR LEGAL DEPARTMENT FOR REVIEW.
I WAS COMING TRY TO FIND OUT WHAT Y'ALL GOOD DISCUSSION.
GLAD YOU'RE LOOKING AT COUNTY
YOU WANNA MAKE A MOTION? UH, WELL EITHER TAKE UNTIL WE GET JIMMY MOTION AND THE MOTION IS, IS TO DENY PERMISSION TO DO SIDES BOARD ON COUNTY.
I'M PENDING THE CONTRACTS SUBMITTED TO DEPARTMENT REVIEW.
DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SO J SECONDS, UH, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR BEING HERE.
ALRIGHT, NUMBER 22 IS TO DISCUSS, CONSIDER SECTION 2 5 1 1 1 5, 7 5 OF THE TEXAS TRANSPORTATION CODE PROPOSING A ROAD, I GUESS IT SHOULD BE SIGNED ROAD SIGN TO LIMIT USE OF OUR TRUCKS WEIGHING MORE THAN 6,000 PLANTS.
I GOT THIS FROM UH, THOUSAND EMAILS AND I'M NOT OUR TRUCKS.
I DUNNO HOW MUCH IT'S FULL, BUT OUR ROADS AREN'T MADE THAT WEIGH WAS, I HATE TO TELL YOU, BUT ACTUALLY LANDFILL LONG TIME OVER POUNDS.
WE CAN'T KEEP THE BIGGEST PROBLEM, IT ALL HAS TO DO WITH PERMIT.
SO THEY GET PERMIT LEGAL AND YOU HAVE UH, YOU KNOW THE REST OF IT AND YOU KNOW, THE SUPERVISOR GIVE THE SUPERVISOR PERMISSION AND ALSO IT SAYS COME TO COURT AND GET REGULATED AND THEN YOU CAN'T REGULATE TRAFFIC BECAUSE IT'S, IF THAT'S THE ONLY WAY THE FORM TO GET THERE, YOU, WE CAN'T STOP IT.
FIRST PARAGRAPH SAYS ALTER ROOF.
THAT RIGHT ARE NO ROOF, RIGHT.
IF THERE'S NO ALTER ROOF THEN, BUT THEN YOU HAVE TO HAVE WEIGHT LIMIT ON EACH COUNTY ROAD.
NOW IF I HIT OVER THE, UM, THE
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LEGAL REGISTERED WEIGHT LIMIT, GET PERMIT 54 50 6,000 POUNDS AND THEN IF YOU GET OVER IT, 68,000 OR SOMETHING.WELL IT DEPENDS ON THE AXLE, I MEAN AT A CERTAIN LENGTH OF A CERTAIN WEIGHT AND A CERTAIN NUMBER OF THINGS YOU HAVE TO GO GET COMMISSION FROM, GET A ROUTE TO GO WHERE YOU'RE GOING.
SO THE WEIGHTS ARE ALREADY DESCRIBED IN THE, IN THE LAW AND WE GET A PERMIT FOR YOUR TRUCK LICENSE.
IT TELLS YOU THE LAW INSTANTLY WHAT YOUR WEIGHT VALUE IS.
THE OVERWEIGHT PER PERMITS THAT UH, MOST TRUCKS HAVE WILL ALLOW YOU TO RUN 80,000 POUNDS ON A 58,004 20 FARM THAT ARE POSTED AT THAT.
THEY WILL ALSO ALLOW YOU TO BE, UM, 5% OVER YOUR REGISTERED GROSS WEIGHT.
SO IF YOU'RE REGISTERED FOR 80,000, YOU'RE ALLOWED TO BE 84,000.
THAT'S ON FARM MARKET, RIGHT? YES.
AND THEN YOU ARE ALLOWED A 10% OVER ANY AXLE.
LIKE I SAY, YOUR STEERING AXLE, YOU GOT YOUR LOAD TOO FAR FORWARD, RIGHT, FOR THAT OVERWEIGHT PERMIT WILL ALLOW YOU TO BE 10% OVER YOUR, YOUR RATED ACTUAL RATING, BUT NO MORE THAN 5% ON YOUR TOTAL.
BUT WHAT DOES THAT DO BACK TO THE COUNTY? WELL, I MEAN WE CAN'T, WE CAN'T OVERRULE THE STATE LAW, STATE PERMIT.
I THE ONLY WAY THAT BECAME IS NOT OR BRIDGE.
YEAH, THERE'S A LOAD ZONE BRIDGE ON IT OR IT'S GOT ALL NEW BRIDGES.
THAT, THAT, THAT WAS OUR ONLY WAY IN THE PAST TRAFFIC ZONE BRIDGE.
YEAH, I MEAN WE'VE DISCUSSED IT.
WE'RE GONNA PERMIT PERMIT BUT PERMIT DOWN TO SECTION AND THIS ALLOW ONE COMPANY GET THEM OUT.
UH, I THINK IN ORDER TO PERMIT THEM WE HAVE TO HAVE AN ENTIRE COUNTY TRASH POLICY.
WE WOULD HAVE TO PROVIDE THROUGH OUR SOME TAXING ENTITY, UH, WITH TAX EVERY CITIZEN FOR TRASH SERVICE.
WE COULD GO OUT FOR BIDS TO HAVE, UM, TO TAKE BID FOR TRASH SERVICE FOR THE COUNTY.
EVERYBODY WOULD BE ALLOWED TO USE IT.
THEN WE CAN CONTROL THE SIZE OF THE TRUCKS.
WE CAN CONTROL THE NUMBER OF GUNS PER WEEK AND, AND IT WOULD HAVE TO BE FUNDED THROUGH SOME SORT, YOU KNOW, LIKE IN THE CITY THROUGH THE WATER BILL.
WE WOULD HAVE TO DESIGNATE SOME SOURCE OF FUNDING FOR EVERY CITIZEN, EVERY HOUSE.
BUT YOU CAN'T PERMIT A TRANSFER IF THEY, EVEN IF THEY'RE JUST TRAVELING LIKE ANYTHING ELSE.
YOU CAN ACTUALLY, YEAH, YOU CAN ACTUALLY ACQUIRE THEM ALL.
WHETHER WE BID THEM OR NOT, YOU CAN REQUIRE THEM A PERMIT.
WHAT THAT DOESN'T ALLOW NO, MAKES A PERMIT STICK ON THE TRUCK PERMIT CONTROL WEIGHT.
AND WHAT, WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS OUT A SYSTEM THAT CONTROL SAME 16 DIFFERENT FIVE OR TRIPS DOWN THAT ROAD TO ONE LOT TIME ON, YOU KNOW, REGULATORY THING.
IT'S JUST THAT THE CITIES, THE REASON THEY'RE SO ABLE TO DO IT.
SO MONEY MAKING THEIR TRASH, DON'T WANT THE TRASH COLLECT.
WHAT DO YOU DO ABOUT THAT FINANCIAL? SO IT BE A THING THAT WE COULD GET IT DOWN TO A SECTION AND BID OUT SECTION OR PERMIT A SECTION AND THEY JUST THINK ABOUT THAT SOMEBODY LOOK IT UP TO SEE DO AND THE THE BETTER PART OF IT, THE COMMERCIALS LIKE THE THE STORES, THE RESTAURANTS AND STUFF, THEY HAD TO HAVE CERTAIN SIZE CONTAINERS.
WE GOT FRANCHISE THAT FROM THAT GARBAGE CONTRACT.
RANDY, DO YOU HAVE A COMMENT? YES, YES.
JIM, WE, OUR OFFICE HAS APPROACHED THAT THIS
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CONCEPT BEFORE, UH, NOT FOR THE PURPOSE OF THE TRUCKS, BUT I SEE THE TWOFOLD.BUT FOR THE PURPOSE OF UH, CONTROLLING THE BURNING OF COMMON HOUSE ON THE TRASH, UH, THERE IS A LONG CODE STIPULATES IF THE COUNTY PROVIDES A TRASH OF SERVICE FOR THE ENTIRE COUNTY, EVERY HOUSEHOLD IN THE COUNTY AND YOU CAN ELIMINATE THE BURNING OF COMMON HOUSEHOLD, THEY STILL TO THE BRUSH, BUT THE SERVICE OF THE TRASH PICKUP THAT WILL ELIMINATE THE BURNING COMMON HOUSE ON THE TRASH.
UH, TCEQ CHANGED THAT PORTION OF THE LAW BECAUSE OF YOU 34 YEARS AGO.
OUR TRASH CARDBOARD PAPER NOW KNOW THE MAJORITY OF IT'S STYROFOAM, PLASTICS AND SO FORTH.
AND THERE'S A CONFLICTING PART OF THE LAW THERE.
IT SAYS, YOU KNOW, ONE PART SAYS YOU CAN'T BURN PLASTICS ABOVE HER PASS ALL AND SO FORTH.
BUT THEN THE OTHER SAYS YOU'RE ALLOWED TO BURN YOUR TRASH AT COMMON HOUSEHOLD TRASH IF THE COUNTY DOES NOT HAVE A TRASH PICKUP SERVICE MATTER BEFORE THE ENTIRE COUNTY, UH, EVERYBODY WAS IN BRIDGE IT SEEMED, YOU KNOW, THAT THAT WAS A GOOD THING TO DO.
THE PROBLEM WE RAN INTO WAS WHAT YOU JUST ADDRESSED IS WHAT IS THE EASIEST WAY TO GET THIS DONE? UH, CAN IT BE DONE THE TAX, CAN IT BE ASSESSED ON THE PROPERTY? DOES IT GO TO THE HOMEOWNER? DOES IT TENANT? AND IT JUST, IT NEVER DEVELOPED FROM THAT POINT.
COULD WE GET OUR WATER COMPANIES TO COLLECT THE FOREST THROUGH THE WATER BILL ON WATER.
S TW HAS A UTILITY GOING MODULE.
ALL I HAVE TO DO IS PAY THAT TURNED ON AND WE HAVE TO GET THE, YOU CAN'T MESS WITH CITY PROPERTIES BECAUSE THE CITY ALREADY DOES THAT.
GET THE OUTLINE, GET THOSE ADDRESSES IT TAKE SOME TIME TO DUMP IT INTO THE SYSTEM.
WE CAN TAKE THE SIMPLEST WAY RIGHT NOW AND THEY'RE LOOKING, LOOKING FOR IT, IS TO BUILD ABLE TO PERMIT THE TRUCKS AND THE BOTTOM UP INTO SECTIONS.
WE DON'T COLLECT THE FEE BUT WE'LL SET IN A, IN A COUNTYWIDE TRASH SERVICE AND WE'LL SAY PRECINCT TWO, THIS COMPANY HAS EARNED THE BID.
THEY'LL JUST COME BID AND SAY WHAT? THEY'LL PAY US A PERCENTAGE AND WE'RE NOT COLLECTING FROM THE HOUSEHOLD, THEY'LL JUST GIVE US A PERCENTAGE IN PRECINCT, ONE PRECINCT AND DIVIDED UP INTO FOUR COMPANIES.
OURS, THE SAME COMPANY COULD HAVE ALL FOUR PRECINCTS.
WHAT KINDA LIKE THEY DO EXCEPT THE CITIES COLLECT THE MONEY THAT WAY.
AND WE JUST REQUIRES, AND IF THAT TURNS OUT TO BE A LEGAL PROCESS, THEN I THINK IT'S SOME PLACE TO WE GO THEN, THEN WE WILL CORRECT YOUR PROBLEM ALONG THE BARGAIN INSTANTLY WITH THAT, THOSE KIND OF CONTRACTS ARE VERY LUC.
IF YOU NEGOTIATE THE ONLY ONE OF THE OTHER DRAWBACKS THAT WE SAW HISTORICALLY OR DISCUSS IT, YOU'RE GONNA SEE AN INCREASE ON DOESN'T.
WELL YOU KNOW, IT DOESN'T SAY, AND THAT'S THE WHOLE THING ABOUT THE PERMIT.
IF YOU PERMIT IT RIGHT ON THE TRUCKS, IT DOESN'T SAY BURN IT UNLESS WE JUST DECIDE TO DO OR THAT YOU HAVE TO HAVE A TRASH SERVICE.
IT JUST SAYS THAT THE ONLY WAY THAT TRUCK GETS TO GO IN THAT PRECINCT TO COLLECT TRASH IF THEY HAVE A PERMIT AND WARRANT US A CERTAIN PERCENTAGE OF THEIR REVENUE FOR COLLECTING.
AND I'LL, I'LL CHECK INTO THAT WHETHER I BELIEVE THAT IT'S A STIPULATION IN THE LAW THAT STATES THAT IF THAT TRUST SERVICE PICKS UP FOR MORE THAN ONE COUNTY THAT PICK UP MULTIPLE COUNTIES, RIGHT.
OKAY, WELL BUT THIS IS BECAUSE WE'RE GIVING A A BID PROCESS AND IF NOT THEN THAT'S WHAT WE'RE ASKING THEM TO DO IS START LOOKING AT LEGISLATION THAT WE WRITE CORRECT PROBLEM.
SO WE COULD HAVE BACK SUPPOSED, I THOUGHT THEY ALREADY BACK TO ME DOWN.
SO JOHN, UM, WE HAVEN'T LOOKED INTO THIS IN PARTICULAR, BUT THE AGS OFFICE SEVEN, UM OH SEVEN, THE COUNTY COMMISSIONER'S COURT IS NOT AUTHORIZED TO REQUIRE THE OF VEHICLE A PERMIT FROM THE COUNTY OPERATOR HAS THE PERMANENT TRANSPORTATION SECTION 6 23 1.
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LIMITED TO BEING AN OVERWEIGHT OR NOT.SO I'M NOT SAYING THAT WE CANNOT DO THAT, BUT I'M KIND OF HESITANT TO SAY HOW MANY, HOW MANY ADDITIONAL TS WE COULD REQUIRE WHEN ME AND JACKIE WENT TO SCHOOL, UH, IN THOSE CLASSES.
THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THEY DIDN'T TELL US THAT THE COUNTY WAS, THEY HAD TAKEN 10 OFF PERMITS TRASH CHARGE THAT'S COMING THROUGH YOUR COUNTY.
WE DIDN'T GET INTO IT THAT MUCH, BUT I KNOW, I MEAN THAT'S JUST WHAT THEY, YOU KNOW.
OKAY, I'M JUST GOING BY WHAT THEY SAID.
WHO REGULATES IT? I MEAN TCEQ OR THE TEXTILE OR, OR YOU KNOW, WHO REGULATES THE TRASH? YEAH.
I WONDER WHAT THEY IT GOES RIGHT WITH WATER.
IT'S THE SAME PEOPLE DOES WITH WATER.
THEY HAVE THE RIGHT STATE TO REGULATE TRASH AND THAT'S WHY THE CITIES GET THAT'S LISTEN, I THINK WORTH PURSUING.
UH, SO WHAT, WHAT DO YOU WANT TO DO FURTHER INVESTIGATION? UH, THAT'S ALL, THAT'S ALL WE CAN DO, DO RIGHT NOW.
WOULD SOMEBODY BE WILLING TO PUT THAT IN THE FORM PROMOTION AND SCHEME SINCE YOU'RE KIND OF THE WELL THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO THINK OF.
WHAT KIND OF MOTION WE BE PUT WITH IT.
WE'LL CONTINUE TO WORK ON THE, UH, ON THE IDEA OF FIGURING OUT WAY TO PERMIT TRUCKS, OUR COUNTYWIDE PICKUP AND WE YOU CAN TAKE THE LEAD ON FOLLOW THROUGH.
BUT I'M SORRY, THE, THE AGENDA HAS IT THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE POSTING A ROAD, SO LIMIT USED BY TRUCKS 20 MORE THAN 60,000 POUNDS.
SO RATHER THAN YOU CAN'T DO ANYTHING WITH THAT.
THIS TABLE TAKE NO, TAKE NO ACTION ON THIS AND WE KNOW WE'RE WORKING ON THAT'S PROBABLY RIGHT JOHN.
I WAS JUST GONNA SAY MOTION WAS TERMS ALTERNATIVES UNDER 50 THAT MIGHT COVER IT'S WHAT YOU'RE, YOU'RE TRYING TO DO SOMETHING AN ALTERNATE ROUTE, RIGHT.
YOU KNOW, BESIDES BUILDING NOT A ROAD, WHAT COULD YOU DO? GOOD THING WOULD BEATE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC'S ON THAT ROAD.
AND I, YOU KNOW, THIS HAS TO BE A PROBLEM IN OTHER COUNTIES TOO.
SOMEBODY WITH WITH OTHER COMMISSION, THE TRASH TRUCKS ARE KILLING ALL THE ALL AROUND.
MIGHT BE SOMETHING THAT THE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS WANT THE MOTION TABLE TAKING.
WE'LL JUST TAKE NO ACTION ON ITEM 16.
WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT.
IT'S PUT MOTION TABLE THAT TAKE NO ACTION.
YEAH, WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE TAKING NO ACCIDENT ACCIDENT BECAUSE THERE'S NO FORMAL WAY FOR US TO BE ABLE TO THAT.
ALRIGHT, WE HAVE THAT FROM COMMISSIONER PHILLIP TO HAVE SECOND, SECOND MOTION.
SAY WE'LL DO ONE MORE ITEM THEN WE'RE GONNA TAKE A QUICK BREAK, UH, TO 23 IS TO DISCUSS APPROVED ISSUANCE OF REQUESTED PROCUREMENT OR FOR THE BANK SUPERVISOR.
ALL I DID WAS GO INTO THE COUNTY ARCHIVE DEAL HERE AND FIND THE EMPLOYEE AGREEMENT AND THE CREDIT CARD AGREEMENT AND HAD THIS STATEMENT ATTACHED TO IT AND ALL THAT COVER OVER A PRECINCT.
A CASE OF WATER, A SINGLE CHARGE PLACE FOR SOME REASON, SOME WAY BE ABLE TO GET IT RIGHT THERE AND NOT HAVE A BIG ISSUE OVER.
SO THE CREDIT CARD IS NOT THE WAY TO, TO DO THAT.
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JACK IS, I DON'T, YOU HAVE I THINK HAD A DISCUSSION THE OTHER DAY.I WAS CURIOUS WHAT YOU UH, SECTION D UH, JUST TELLS WHO'S, WHO'S AUTHORIZED TO PURCHASE FOR THE COUNTY.
I'M THE ONLY ONE AUTHORIZED PURCHASE FOR COUNTY BY STATE.
I GIVE YOU GUYS AUTHORITY UNDER, UNDER MY WATER PROTECTION.
BE CONTRACTS, ORDERS UNDER MAY HAVE ASSISTANCE IN AID, PERFORMANCE, DUTY, KEYWORD, KEYWORD STATES THAT THE AGENT MAY HAVE A SYSTEM KEY WORD THERE MAY, IT ALSO SAYS THAT, UH, A PERSON USES CARD BECOMES A, AN ASSISTANT TO THE AGENT PARENT.
PROBABLY VERIFY THAT THE PAST TWO YEARS WE'VE GOT WRITTEN UP.
I'VE GOT ON THE FACT THAT BUNCH OF CARDS HERE AND THERE BILL GET TURNED IN ON TIME AND WE GOT DOWN THE 16.
WE'RE TRYING GET THAT IN CHECK.
UH, I GET CAUGHT ON MY OTHER DUDES.
UH, THERE'S A SOFTWARE AVAILABLE.
UH, BUT IF YOU'RE A CARD USER AND MAKE YOUR PURCHASE, YOU CAN SEND AN EMAIL WITH A LIST OF THINGS THAT YOU BOUGHT THAT YOU CHECK OFF YOUR MAIL PURCHASE AND COMES FROM ME.
I GET TO GO GET THE, UNTIL WE GET THAT, UH, I'M NOT PREPARED TO ADD UNDERSTAND.
I KNOW THEY'RE DAYS GOT SERVICE RUNS, UH, EVERY DAY OUT THERE I CAN SEND MY CARD CARD OTHER THIS IS ON ME CARD, LOST CARD, STOLEN PIECE BEING ORDERED OUTTA UK.
ALL KIND OF THINGS ARE HAPPEN ON AND IT'S A NONSTOP THING.
TRYING TO PUT THIS BASED ON THEY'RE SET UP.
UH, THEY'RE HONEST TODAY AS WELL, BUT I DO KNOW WHEN CREDIT CARD WHAT THE AGAINST SCHOOL DISTRICT OR CITY COUNTY, THEY DON'T GO TO DISTRICT COURT.
THEY DON'T GO SEEK TO TO THE CITY COUNCIL TO GO BASED ON THAT.
I'LL TO JOHN, I THINK IT'S MY DECISION AND I DON'T FULLY ANTICIPATE I'LL GET GOT THIS PROGRAM THAT WE CAN GET THIS BILL PAID ON TIME BECAUSE NOW I HAVE, DO WE HAVE OTHER CREDIT CARDS IN THE SYSTEM? THERE ARE SOME CARDS I TOOK OVER THE PRECINCT.
THEY HAD CARDS BUT THEY WERE IN THE FOREMAN'S NAME OUT THERE AND I TURNED THEM INTO HIM.
I CAN PROBABLY GET YOU SOMETHING LIKE THE WALMART CARD TO, YOU KNOW, KEPT HIM IN THE OFFICE THERE.
BUT, UH, WELL I DON'T MIND KEEPING HIS CARD IN CHECK OUT.
I'M JUST PUTTING NAME ON P AND GO USE IT.
I'M NOT GONNA GO BUY STUFF FOR THEM.
THEY GO WHAT? WHAT DEPARTMENT VIEWS THE CREDIT CARD THE MOST IN PAST I HAVE NOT HAD ONE SINGLE ABUSE, WELL WE HAD ONE MINOR.
I'M NOT, I MEAN WHAT'S IN A DEPARTMENT THAT HAD SEVERAL EMPLOYEES? SO MANY THAT'D BE HARD FOR ONE INDIVIDUAL TO OVERSEE ALL OVER THAT HAD ACCESS TO THE CREDIT CARD OR TO A DEPARTMENT THAT HAD JUST A HANDFUL OF EMPLOYEES THAT THAT HAD SOME PRETTY TIGHT CAN I INPUT SOMETHING
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IN THE RECEIPTS, THEREFORE I CAN'T PAY THE BILL IN TIME, THEREFORE WE GET DEALING LATE FEES, CUTOFFS.WE HAD SOME EVEN SO CALL 'EM US.
HEY OUR BUILDING GET PAID WORTH AND SUCH AND SUCH COUNTY WE CAN'T GET GAS BECAUSE THEY WAIT TOO LATE TO BRING US THE BILLS TO BE PROCESSED IN TIME.
WELL THAT'S A SUPERVISORY ISSUE.
IT'S NOT REALLY A CREDIT CARD PROBLEM.
NO, BUT THROUGH THE STATE OF TEXAS THERE IS A PROCUREMENT CARD THAT FLOWS WITH SDW SOFTWARE THEN IT'S AUTOMATICALLY DUMPED INTO THE FINANCIAL SYSTEM.
THE SUPERVISOR HAS TO GETS THE REPORT JUST LIKE THEY DO THE STUFF WE SEND Y'ALL ABOUT YOUR MONTHLY FINANCIALS ONCE A MONTH YOU GET THOSE AND YOU WOULD HAVE TO SAY, YEAH, THAT'S THE RIGHT LINE ITEM.
YEAH, WE BOUGHT THIS, WE BOUGHT THIS, WE BOUGHT THIS.
AND THEN YOU SIGN IT, SEND IT BACK.
AND THEN THE ONLY WAY I'LL GO WITH HIM AND AGREE IS IF WE HAVE IT SET UP THAT WHEN THAT CARD, THAT MASTERCARD IS DUE, THAT MONEY'S AUTOMATICALLY FROM OUR BANK, THEN WE'RE NEVER LATE.
WE DON'T GET THAT THEN WE'RE NOT, THERE'S NO CREDIT CARD PEOPLE THAT ARE ON VACATIONS AND THEY SIGN OFF.
I'VE GOTTA GET A SYSTEM IN PLACE.
I MEAN WE COULD, WE COULD PAY THE $500 EVEN IF WE DIDN'T HAVE THE RECEIPTS.
IF IF THE GUY DIDN'T TURN IN THE RECEIPTS NEXT THEN I THINK IT WOULD BE LIKE PURCHASING.
IF YOU DON'T TURN IN CAN'T WE'RE, I JUST DON'T WANT, I DON'T WANNA GO BUY SOMETHING AND HAVE TURN IN A RECEIPT FOR MYSELF TO DO THIS TWO.
YOU GOT, YOU GOTTA REALIZE STEP MAKING A BIG THING AND I JUST THINK THAT BE TO CHARGE SOMETHING ON THE OTHER SIDE OF TOWN THAN SHOULD BE THIS UP UNTIL WE COUNTY GIVEN GIVEN THING.
NO I DIDN'T, I'M NOT SAYING THAT'S NOT WHAT WE'RE SAYING.
WE'RE JUST SAYING THAT WE NEED TO WAIT AND PURCHASE AND I'VE ASKED, I'VE ASKED YOU, I HAVEN'T GOT ANYTHING AND SO I FOUND THIS IN OUR POLICY AND THAT'S WHY I PUT IT.
I SAID, WELL OKAY THIS IS WHY I'M NOT GETTING ANYTHING DONE.
I NEED FILL OUT THE FORM, PUT IT IN THERE.
I I'D LIKE TO HAVE SOME WAY TO PURCHASE STUFF OVER THERE ON THAT SIDE.
I HAVE A CARD NOW WE'RE GO OVER THERE EVERY DAY.
THERE'S PLANNING I CAR YOU SEND CARD BACK.
IT'S HARD TO, IT'S TRIVIAL PURCHASES NOT, I THINK SOMETHING, I DON'T CARE IF IT SITS IN THE SECRETARY'S CONTROL OVER HERE AND THEY COME TO GET BACK.
BUT I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE A WAY TO BE ABLE TO PURCHASE STUFF OVER THERE INSTANTLY IN AN EMERGENCY OR
I UNDERSTAND PEOPLE, BUT IF YOU GOT A TRACTOR BROKE DOWN IN THE MIDDLE OF THE ROAD, THEN YOU NEED A A PIN FOR AND THERE'S GOING AT NORTHERN, THEN YOU JUST DRIVE DOWN THE STREET AND GET ONE AND PUT IT IN THERE INSTEAD OF TYING UP THE ROAD FOR THE NEXT THREE HOURS.
WE HAD BREAK DAY SAT THERE AND BLOCK THE ROAD FOR FOUR HOURS.
SO TO GET A BACKHOE OUT THERE AND GET EVERYTHING LIFTED UP CHAIN TOGETHER INSTEAD OF THIS FINAL APART AND GET IT PUT BACK TOGETHER NOW YOU SEE WHAT I'M SAYING? IT JUST, IT JUST DOESN'T MAKE SENSE.
THIS I'VE GOTTA GET, BECAUSE THE MINUTE I GET YOUR GUY ONE, HIS GUY ONE'S IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT FAR FOR ME TO COME UP HERE AND GET YOU.
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A PROBLEM TO BUT WHAT YOU'RE WORKING ON TAKE CARE OF THE SSU PROGRAM.HOW LONG IT TAKE? THAT'S NOT MY, THAT'S NOT MY GAME.
WE GET TRAINED ON IT FROM MY SOME UH, I GET DOWN TO ONE CREDIT CARD.
UH, YOU GOTTA BE TRAINED ON THE SOFTWARE BUT YOU ALREADY HAVE THE LOG THERE.
YOU HAVE TO ORDER THE CARDS FROM THE STATE OF TEXAS AND THAT THAT COULD TAKE, YOU KNOW, 30 DAYS OR LONGER SOMETIMES BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO SEND THOSE OFF AS YOU MAY.
I THINK I CAN MAKE THAT QUICK.
AND AND THIS IS GOING TAKE THE PLACE OF A CREDIT CARD.
THE SAME THING IS CALLED I JUST PAID THE CARD NAME YOUR SECRETARY, YOU A LAW OR WHATEVER YOU WANT THE GO GET, GET THE CAR OUT SOMETHING.
ANY, I WOULD SUGGEST ANYBODY THAT YOU'RE GET THAT CAR AND THEY'RE GONNA ISSUE IT TO SOMEBODY TO GO USE THE RUN AND GET SOMETHING THEY NEED TO BE HELD LIABLE.
NO, IF WE GO INTO THE SYSTEM, PULL SOMETHING AND IT'S WRONG AND THEY BOUGHT SOMETHING THEY WEREN'T SUPPOSED TO, YOU KNOW, THEY, THEY'RE TERMINATED.
YEAH'S THERE I, YOU KNOW, I CAN SPEAK TO THE CITY LEVEL.
UH, MISS VALLEY, IF YOU GET YOUR CARD, IF SOMEBODY USES THE CARD THEN THEY'RE FINE.
YOU GET TO THE COUNTY, SOMEBODY USES MY CARD AND SO BASED ON THAT I'VE GOTTA I JOB AND PLAN A LITTLE GAME THEN I'LL I'LL BE ABLE TO WORK FIRST.
THE ONLY OTHER SOLUTION, JACK, THAT I CAN THINK OF OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD IS EACH ONE OF THE COMMISSIONERS GIVE THEM, UM, WE HAVE TO GET Y'ALL VOTE ON, UH, IS MAKE YOU, YOU'RE GONNA BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT MONEY AND IT'S SUBJECT TO AUDIT AT ANY TIME.
DON'T EVEN HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT.
SO WE COULD DO THAT IF YOU WANTED TO UNTIL YOU'VE GOT THINGS IN LINE AND YOU GOT ALL YOUR STUFF BACK IN ROAD, LIKE YOU SAID, WE JUST NEED A WAY TO GO SOMEWHERE AND GET SOMETHING.
AND I UNDERSTAND WATER, THEY GO DOWN AND PURCHASE WATER WE CAN'T EVEN FLUSH.
SO IT DOESN'T MAKE ANY DIFFERENCE.
IS THAT SOMETHING YOU CAN DO AS THE DOLLAR? COULD YOU ESTABLISH A UH, A I CAN ESTABLISH A CHANGE.
YEAH, I CAN DO THAT UNTIL WE HAVE TIME TO GET THIS OTHER SYSTEM'S OUTTA YOUR ROAD BRIDGE FUNDS.
THAT'S, THAT'S THE WAY I DO IT FOR THE GENERAL FUND.
I THINK THE SYSTEMS OR WHATEVER, ALL SYSTEM LOCK DRAWER HERE.
LOCK LOCK BOXES AND GET THE MONEY THAT THEY NEED TO GO GET SOMETHING TO BRING HER BACK THE RECEIPT AND TURN IT IN.
WHAT YOU NEED, THOSE LOCK BOXES COME WITH TWO KEYS SO YOUR ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANT WOULD GET ONE AND THEN SOMEBODY ELSE NEEDS TO HAVE IT BECAUSE SHE'S ON VACATION SICK OR NOT THERE.
YEAH, I MEAN IT'S NOT, YOU KNOW, OR WAIT FOR HIM TO SEND IT IN THE MAIL THE NEXT DAY.
IF IT CAME TO MAY DO, WOULD YOU NEED ONE? I DON'T THINK SO BECAUSE I, I I'M HERE CLOSE THE CARD PRECINCT THREE.
DO YOU WANT Y HE CARD? HE HAS CREDIT CARDS.
GOT A WALMART CARD AND THAT'S ALL WE ARE.
OKAY, SO JUST, I'LL JUST SET IT UP PRECINCT TOO.
YOU WANT I'LL GET YOU GET YOU GET THROUGH THIS PERIOD.
THAT'S, I DON'T, THEY'RE YOU CAN'T EVERYTHING I HELP YOU, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT MORE TO IT.
YOU KNOW, WE GET REP, WE GET REQUISITIONS.
AND OKAY AND THEY'LL, THEY'LL DO A ION, THEY'LL PUT UNDER ONE ACCOUNT UNDER BUDGET AND COMES IN, THEY SEND AN INVOICE.
SO THE CREDIT CARD KNOW WE CAN'T HAVE, WE JUST, WE WON'T PAY THE BILL ONE GOOD ABOUT THE
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YESTERDAY.ONE THING, GOOD THING ABOUT THE, THE PURCHASE COURT SYSTEM THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IN THE STATE, IT THEY GIVE YOU THESE LITTLE, I CAN'T THINK THE LITTLE THINGS WHEN YOU CAN, YEAH, IT'S A PROGRAM ON THE COMPUTER THAT THEY LOAD UP FOR YOU AND YOU CAN DIAL INTO THE BANK, INPUT YOUR ID AND THAT SECURE DIGITAL CODE AND WE CAN ACTUALLY SEE WHO'S BUYING IT, WHAT DAY, WHAT THEY BOUGHT, WHO SIGNED FOR IT, AND ACTUALLY GET A HARD COPY OF THE SIGNATURE AND WE WOULD MONITOR THAT EVERY TWO OR THREE DAYS.
MY AP CLERK WOULD MONITOR IT JUST TO SEE WHO'S BUYING WHAT AND WE'VE GOTTA SET UP A MERCHANT CODES OF WHAT THEY CAN DO IF YOU'RE GONNA LET THEM GO TO SCHOOL AND USE IT TO BUY GAS AND THEIR MEALS.
NO ALCOHOL, UH, NO MOVIES IN THE HOTEL OR ANYTHING.
IT'S GOTTA BE SET UP A CERTAIN WAY.
YOU HAVE A C FOR TOOL AND YOU'RE SET A VENDOR SET UP ITEM DENIED.
OKAY, SO BACK ON THIS ITEM NUMBER 20, JACK WORK ON THE UH, THE NEW SYSTEM AND THEN KAREN MOTION.
THOSE OPPOSED? ALRIGHT, LET'S TAKE A BREAK.
WE'VE BEEN SITTING HERE ABOUT THREE HOURS.
DO YOU HAVE ANY
WE GET A REFUND FROM THEM WHEN WE DO OUR WELLNESS PROGRAMS AND EVERYBODY GETS GOOD REPORTS AND SO WE, WE ALWAYS CARRY THAT OVER THAT AMOUNT OVER FROM MS UH, FLOYD IN HR SO SHE CAN USE IT FOR UM, PROGRAMS AND STUFF.
AND SHE DIDN'T TELL ME, SAID TRUE SPEND ALL HER MONEY AND I ESTIMATED ACCORDING ENCUMBRANCES AND MY NUMBER WAS WRONG.
SO WE WANTED TO GIVE HER BACK THAT SIX SEVEN.
AND UM, THE COURTHOUSE SECURITY FUND, WE HAD TO, BECAUSE THE MOVEMENT AROUND IN MAGILLA HOUSE DOWNSTAIRS, WE HAD TO GIVE THEM AN EXTRA $300 TO GET THEIR AREA SITUATED.
SO, AND THAT'S UH, THAT'S NOT ALLISON.
THAT WAS FOR THE SECURITY EQUAL STUFF GET SITUATED AND ALL THAT.
SO THAT'S THE ONLY TWO THAT I HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT? MOTION.
MOTION TO APPROVE AS PRESENTED.
SO SECOND, COMMISSIONER, UH, SHANE MAKES MOTION.
OPPOSED? AND ITEM 25, JUDGE CONSIDER, OKAY, THE CLAIMS FOR PAYMENT ARE $395,650 AND 91 CENTS.
UM, OUT THOSE, UM, ATTORNEY FEES THAT YOU HAD ME PULL LAST TIME, UH, COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS, HE GOT A HOLD OF SOME INFORMATION FOR US AND UM, IF THE BOARD OF JUDGES HASN'T SET UP POLICY OF LIKE SIX MONTHS OR 90 DAYS, WHATEVER, 120 DAYS, WHATEVER, IT'S A TWO YEAR TIME SPAN FROM THE DATE OF DEATH OF ITS DISMISSED, RESOLVED OR WHATEVER.
SO I PULL THOSE, THESE THAT I'M ASKING YOU TO PAY, THAT'S INCLUDED IS 10,000 4 76, THE ONES I'M HOLDING BECAUSE THEY'RE OVER THE TWO YEAR LIMIT IS 45 69 50.
AND I'M NOT PAYING THESE BECAUSE THEY'RE OVER THE TWO YEAR LIMIT.
CAN YOU UM, WE PAY SOME THAT WERE OVER THE TWO YEARS IN THAT FIRST ONE CAN, CAN WE REQUEST OUR MONEY BACK FROM, FROM THOSE THAT WE PAID THAT WERE MORE THAN TWO YEARS OLD JUST WRITING A LETTER SAYING I DOUBT WE PAID IT BACK, REQUEST IT.
WHAT I UNDERSTAND AND YOU CAN REQUEST IT.
WELL I MEAN YOU COULD, YOU CAN KNOCK THEM OFF THE WHEEL.
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THOUGH THAT THE JUDGES ARE GONNA HAVE A MEETING I THINK SOMETIME IN MARCH AND THAT THIS WILL PROBABLY BE A TOPIC OF DISCUSSION TO DRAFT SOME KIND OF POLICY THAT GIVES Y'ALL A COMFORT LEVEL, GIVES THEM A COMFORT LEVEL AND ALLOWS ME TO PAY THE BILLS GOING BY THAT POLICY.MATTER 30 DAYS, WELL WE HAVE 30 DAY THAT'S ON THE SIDE.
30 DAYS SAID I KNOW YOU WORKING ON THAT, THAT'S GONNA BE YOUR BUT DON'T HAVE HERE NOW I YOU REQUEST BACK MORE THAN ON WHATEVER IT IS.
AND I THINK MAYBE WOULD BE, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT MAYBE IT'S RISK MANAGEMENT.
I SEE IF IT'S THESE, THESE UH, THESE PEOPLE RIGHT HERE, THERE'S TWO, TWO ATTORNEYS WHEN I TELL THEM I'M NOT GONNA PAY THEM BECAUSE THESE ARE OLD.
I WOULD IMAGINE THE JUDGES GET SOME NASTY NOTES BECAUSE THEY MIGHT WANT DRAFT THE LETTER INSTEAD OF ME.
YOU KNOW, SO I WANNA GIVE THEM THAT CHANCE.
THEY TWO YEARS THEY HAVE MONEY COMING.
KNOW MY QUESTION IS WERE THEY STUCK AGAINST ONE OF OUR JUDGES ALL THE DRAWER OR WERE THEY SUBMITTED IT FIVE, THREE YEARS AGO AND YOU KNOW, OR DID THEY JUST NOW SUBMIT IT WHEN THEY JUST, WHEN THEY SAW THAT THE JUDGE WERE LEAVING OFFICE? UH, THAT'S VERY POSSIBLE.
I DON'T THE JUDGE SHOULD HAVE THE ANSWER TO THAT.
THEY'RE THE ONES THAT GIVE YOU THE, THE BILLS TO TAKE.
NO, THEY DON'T, THE ATTORNEYS, THEY JUST SEND THEM STRAIGHT TO HERE.
WELL THE JUDGES, WHEN DID THE JUDGES MARK 'EM DOWN? THEY MARK 'EM DOWN THREE YEARS AGO OR FIVE YEARS AGO.
JUDGE LEWIS SIGNED THESE 12 20 12 20 14 I THINK IS BOBBY, ISN'T HE? HE COULDN'T SIGNED IT YEARS AGO AND IT'S 2500, 5 YEARS.
AND THEY PROBABLY JUST FOUND THOSE AND SAID A, THE ATTORNEY WAS HERE FOR ANOTHER CASE AND BROUGHT 'EM AND SAID, HEY, YOU KNOW, WELL THAT'S, THERE'S TOO MANY OF SHOWING ME ONE TIME.
IT'S, SO ANYWAY, WERE YOU, DID YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON ANY SPECIFIC BILLS THAT WE EMAILED TO YOU? OKAY, WHAT DID YOU HAVE? I GOT TWO FOR COUNTYWIDE CLEAN REQUEST.
GARY, IS IT NORMAL POLICY TO PAY FOR TRAVEL DAYS BEFORE THEY EVER TAKE A TRIP? YEAH.
USUALLY WE HOLD THOSE, THOSE CHECKS UP.
BUT IF HE HAS TO PAY FOR HIS REGISTRATION IN HIS HOTEL, YEAH, WE USUALLY SEND THOSE CHECKS AHEAD.
JUST GIVE HIM HIS PER DIEM, LIKE BEFORE HE LEAVES THAT MONEY FROM, UH, ONE TIME THE JUDGE TOLD ME ALL WHAT I MEAN OFF
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I, I DUNNO, THEIR BUSINESS.THEY'RE JUST NOT WE, AMERICAN NATIONAL SUGGESTED WE JUST BRING IT BACK INTO OUR ACCOUNTS.
TONY HONOR, UH, THIS IS FOR SERVICE.
UH, ALSO Y'ALL NEED TO REALIZE THAT YOU THINK IT WAS SOMETIME LAST YEAR YOU, YOU ADOPTED A NEW INVESTMENT, UH, POLICY AND COUNTY TREASURER PROBABLY HAD HAD TIME TO REALLY REVIEW THAT, TO KNOW WHAT THAT MONEY TO OKAY.
JUST ONE OTHER ON THAT SAME DEAL.
IT'S THOUSAND DOLLARS ENVIRONMENTAL.
SOMETIMES I AND JUDGE, UH, OBVIOUSLY MCCARROLL WILL BE ON THE EXPEDITING TIME FILING NEXT TIME.
JUST REQUIREMENTS TO GET IT IN A LITTLE EARLY, NOT JUST GETTING USED TO IT KIND DOESN'T.
I DO KNOW THAT THEY, THEY COME SEND OUT THERE.
THE OTHER THING WHILE Y'ALL ARE THUMB THROUGH APPEAL IS YOU MAY BE AWARE OF THIS, BUT DATELINE NBC IS GOING RUN THEIR TWO HOUR PROB THIS FRIDAY NIGHT COUNTY MURDER.
IS THAT OKAY? HAMBURG? I HAVE A MEMO EMAIL I'M SUPPOSED TO SIGN ON THAT I, THAT IT MATCHES THE ATTORNEY.
THEY AGREE THAT WE TO ON THE, UH, THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT THAT.
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IF YOU, JIMMY MIGHT REMEMBER THE JUDGE.I WAS QUESTIONED BY PRESIDENT WHEN THE TAX ASSESSOR GIVE HER REPORT OR HIS REPORT AT THAT TIME.
WHY DID YOU MATCH MY, MY REPORT? SHE PUTS IN DEBT TOGETHER.
SHE PUTS ROAD BRIDGE SEPARATE.
SOMETIMES THE TIMEFRAME IS NOT RECEIVED BY THE TREASURER INTO TO THE SAME TIMEFRAME AND THAT CAUSES AN ISSUE.
ALRIGHT, YOU READY? ARE WE READY TO APPROVE THE BILL? EVERYBODY? A MOTION? MOTION? THANK YOU MR. ALLEN.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.