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ALRIGHT, GOOD MORNING EVERYBODY, AND WELCOME ON THE MONDAY MARCH 9TH MEETING OF THE COUNTY COMMISSIONER'S MEETING, UH, COURT.
WE'RE GLAD TO HAVE YOU WITH US THIS MORNING.
OBVIOUSLY, WE HAVE A LARGE CROWD AND WE DO NOT HAVE ENOUGH ROOM FOR EVERYBODY TO, UH, SIT, BUT HOPEFULLY, UH, PEOPLE WILL BE ABLE TO HEAR.
WE'LL TRY TO TALK, UH, AS LOUD AS WE CAN SO YOU CAN UNDERSTAND WHAT'S GOING ON HERE AT THE MEETING THIS MORNING.
WE WILL BEGIN THIS MORNING WITH OUR, WITH AN INVOCATION, AND THEN WE'LL HAVE THE PLEDGE OF BOTH OF OUR FLAGS, AND THEN WE WILL HEAR REMARKS FROM VISITORS.
THERE IS A STEIN IN SHEET, UH, BACKED BY THE SHERIFF THERE, AND HE WILL PRESENT THAT FOR THE FOLKS THAT WISH TO ADDRESS THE COURT.
AND LET ME JUST, UH, GO AHEAD AND BY A SAYING THIS MORNING.
THIS IS A MEETING OF THE COURT IN PUBLIC.
UH, THIS MEETING IS IN A COURTROOM.
IT, EVEN THOUGH IT DOES NOT NECESSARILY LOOK LIKE A COURTROOM, WE WILL EXPECT PEOPLE TO ADHERE, UH, TO THE REGULAR COURTROOM PROCEDURES THAT WILL TAKE PLACE.
IN OTHER WORDS, WE WILL ASK THAT REMARKS BE RESPECTFUL AND THAT THEY ARE, THAT WE MAINTAIN THE DIGNITY AND HONOR OF THIS COURT HERE THIS MORNING.
AND I EXPECT THAT WILL HAPPEN TO BEGIN WITH.
BUT I JUST WANTED TO, TO POINT THAT OUT.
UH, I'VE ASKED, UH, COMMISSIONER ALLEN TO GIVE OUR INVITATION THIS MORNING, AND IF YOU ADJOIN WITH ME, WE WILL HAVE THAT.
FATHER, WE THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING US TO BE HERE TODAY.
AND WE ESPECIALLY THANK YOU FOR THE RAIN.
YOU KNOW WHAT WE NEED BEFORE YOU ASK IT, AND WE'RE SO GRATEFUL FOR THAT.
YOU ALWAYS TAKE CARE OF US AND ALWAYS HAVE IS WE MEET TODAY WHEN WE TAKE CARE OF THE BUSINESS OF THE COUNTY IN A WAY THAT IS RIGHT FOR ALL THOSE WHO ARE CONCERNED.
AND ALWAYS KEEP IN MIND THAT WE'RE HERE TO SERVE.
SERVE THOSE WHO PUT US IN THIS PLACE.
WE THANK YOU AGAIN FOR THE MILITARY, FOR THOSE WHO ARE OUR FIRST RESPONDERS TODAY AND PROTECT US.
FORGIVE US, AND WE THANK YOU AGAIN FOR YOUR SON, GOD.
FOR US, WE PRAY ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REBUTTAL FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER OUR GOD INDIVIDUAL WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE.
FOR ALL HONOR, HONOR OF THE TEXAS FLAG, ALLEGED ALLEGIANCE TO BE TEXAS, ONE STATE UNDER ROD ONE, AN INDIVISIBLE, MR. SHERIFF, WE DO HAVE A NUMBER OF, UH, PEOPLE THAT ARE HERE TO ADDRESS THE COURT THIS MORNING.
AND AS ALWAYS, WE WELCOME YOU THIS MORNING.
UH, WE WILL HAVE A THREE MINUTE, UH, TIME, UH, LIMIT ON THE OPENING REMARKS.
AND SO, UH, FIRST, UH, I'LL ASK CAROL HAWKINS, UH, FROM, UH, COUNTY ROAD 4 0 0 6.
MS. HAWKINS, THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE, HAWKINS.
CAN YOU HEAR ME THIS WAY? YEAH, YOU PROBABLY WILL HAVE TO SPEAK UP.
UM, GOOD MORNING, UH, JUDGE WOOD AND COMMISSIONERS.
I'M A RESIDENT OF GUN BARREL CITY IN HARBOR POINT SUBDIVISION, AND I'M ALSO CITY COUNCIL MEMBER PLACE THREE.
SO I'M NOT REPRESENTING THE CITY COUNCIL, BUT I AM REPRESENTING MY CONSTITUENTS.
UM, AND I COME TO YOU TODAY TO ASK FOR YOUR SUPPORT AND RELEASE.
THE FUNDS FOR KEN ROAD 4 0 0 6.
UM, MANY RESIDENTS OF CEDAR CREEK LAKE USE THAT NICO ROAD.
UM, THEY HAVE DISCOVERED THE QUALITY OF LIFE AT CEDAR CREEK LAKE AND
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THEY COMMUTE.THEY COMMUTE TO MESQUITE FRISCO, GARLAND, DALLAS, UM, MCKINNEY, UH, TYLER, UH, THEY GO WAYS.
AND THAT IS A MAJOR CONNECTOR ROAD BETWEEN 3 34 CARBON POINT ROAD 4 0 0 6 AND IN THE MAYBANK.
UM, SIMILARLY, THE, UH, BUSINESSES OF MAYBANK USE THAT ROAD TO SERVICE THEIR CLIENTS ON THE SOUTHWEST SIDE OF CEDAR CREEK LAKE AND ALSO THEIR CLIENTS IN CUSTOMERS IN GUN BARREL CITY.
UM, WE ALSO HAVE SEVERAL BUSINESSES THAT ARE ON HARBOR POINT ROAD, UM, SPECIFICALLY, UM, UH, FLYING BREAK AND B UH, IT DEPENDS ON THE TRAFFIC ON THAT ROAD.
AND IF ANY OF YOU HAVE DRIVEN ON THAT ROAD RECENTLY, YOU'LL KNOW THAT YOU COULD FALL ALL THE WAY TO CHINA AND THE POTHOLES.
UM, THEY'RE VERY DEEP AND THEY'RE VERY DANGEROUS.
UM, IT, UM, IS ALSO A CONNECTOR FOR PEOPLE IN YOUNG MELL CITY, NOT ONLY FOR, UM, SHOPPING IN MAYBANK.
UM, WE ALSO GO TO CHURCH OVER THERE, UM, AND VICE VERSA.
SO IT IS A MAJOR CONNECTOR ROAD.
IT IS ALSO A MAJOR ROAD FOR ANG ISD.
THE BUSES GO DOWN THAT, YOU KNOW, DOWN THAT ROAD, AND IT'S VERY DANGEROUS FOR THE BUSES AND FOR THE CHILDREN.
SO I WOULD URGE YOU TO, UM, RELEASE THE FUNDS SO THAT WE CAN GET THAT ROAD STRAIGHTENED OUT AND TRAFFIC C CLOSE SMOOTHLY.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.
NEXT WILL BE LARRY MINOR FROM THE KAUFMAN CHAMBER OF COMMERCE.
AND LARRY, I BELIEVE YOU'RE GONNA BE SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF, UH, UH, UH, WENDY THOMAS AND ALSO ANN GLASSCOCK.
SO WE WILL RELINQUISH THEIR THANKS OF YOU.
AND, UH, SO YOU'LL HAVE A TOTAL OF NINE MINUTES.
IF YOU DON'T NEED NINE MINUTES, THAT'S OKAY.
AND, UH, I, I WANTED TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF THE 9 1 1 EQUIPMENT THAT'S BEEN AUTHORIZED, BUT NOT FUNDED, UH, AS THE, AS A LEADER OF THE COMMUNITY.
JUST TO LET YOU KNOW, I'M THE GENERAL MANAGER OF COTTON STEEL COMPANY.
AS YOU KNOW, WE'VE GONE THROUGH TOUGHS AND ONE THING I DID NOT EVER SPARE ANY EXPENSE ON WITH THE EMPLOYEES.
I THINK THAT, THAT BY NOT FINDING, BUT NOW I'M GONNA SYSTEM.
WE ARE ACCORDING OUR EMPLOYEES, YOUR EMPLOYEES, OUR DEPUTIES, OUR CITIZENS OF JEOPARDY.
UM, I APPRECIATE EVERY ONE OF YOUR, UH, FIDUCIARY COMMITMENT TO THIS COUNTY.
GOT A WONDERFUL JOB, THANK Y'ALL.
GOTTEN GREAT INTEREST RATE, GREAT DEALS, BUT I, THEY FEEL IT'S IMPERATIVE THAT WE FUND THIS PROGRAM.
I DO REALIZE THAT, THAT I KNOW WE ALL LOVE, UH, GOVERNMENT MANDATES, ESPECIALLY THE UNFUNDED ONES.
NOW, I DO KNOW THERE WAS A GOVERNMENT MANDATE TO HAVE ALL DIGITAL RADIO PUT IN PLACE.
I KNOW THAT'S BEEN PUSHED BACK, BUT MY UNDERSTANDING IS THIS NEW SYSTEM WON'T MEET THAT MANDATE.
SO WE'VE KNOCKED OUT TWO BIRDS OF ONE STONE.
SO I I I WOULD ASK YOU TO CONSIDER THAT, THAT, THAT, TO GO AHEAD AND RELEASE THE FUNDINGS, THE, THE CITIZENS DESERVE IT.
UM, YOU, YOU'VE DONE A GREAT JOB IN DEALING WITH IT.
I UNDERSTAND THAT, UH, MR. WOODS HAS, UH, HAS SOME LETTERS OF INTENT FROM OTHER COMMUNITIES.
UM, YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES THINGS MOVE SLOW.
I, I WISH WE COULD HAVE YOUR NAME ON THE BOTTOM LINE, BUT WITH LETTERS OF INTENT, THE BACKING OF THE COMMUNITY, WE FEEL IT'S TIME TO GO AHEAD AND RELEASE THE, AND MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS PROJECT.
YOU WERE ALSO SPEAKING AGAIN ON BEHALF OF WENDY THOMAS AND ANNE GLASSCOCK, AND I BELIEVE Y'ALL RELINQUISHED YOUR TIME TO LARRY FOR THOSE COMMENTS.
NEXT WOULD BE FRED CARTER FROM THE, UH, MAYBANK FIRE DEPARTMENT.
MR. CARTER, THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE THIS MORNING.
UH, AS A FIRST RESPONDER FROM MAYBANK FIRE DEPARTMENT AND THE SURROUNDING AREA, I WOULD, AGAIN, URGE 9 1 1 TO BE PASSED THIS MORNING AND PUT IN THE MANDATE.
THE, UH, GROUNDWORK HAS ALREADY BEEN DONE.
UH, ONE OF THE COMMISSIONERS PUT THAT SOON AS WE GOT THE LETTERS OF INTENT THAT HE WOULD MAKE THE MOTION TO SELL.
I TRY TO HOLD HIM TO THAT THIS MORNING.
NEXT WOULD BE MARY CARTER FROM THE KAUFMAN COUNTY.
I TOOK HER CRIME STOPPERS, I TOOK HER JUDGE.
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GARY WHITTEN WITH THE KAMAN COUNTY CRIME STOPPERS.I JUST WANT TO, UH, ENCOURAGE Y'ALL TO AVOID INTO THIS THING.
AND, UH, THERE'S NOT A WHOLE LOT I CAN ADD THAT I HAVEN'T EVEN SAID, EXCEPT THAT IF WE CONSIDER THE VALUABLE MINUTES THAT CAN BE SAVED IN AN EVENT OF AN EMERGENCY, ONE LINE CAN BE SAVED, THEN I THINK YOU SEE THE IMPORTANCE OF THIS HOUSE BEING FUNDED.
SO I APPRECIATE YOUR CONSIDERATION AND I THANK YOU AGAIN FOR YOUR TIME.
THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE, SIR.
NEXT WOULD BE, UH, GALEN IRVIN FROM GB.
UH, YOUR HONOR, I'M HERE TO SPEAK UP.
YOU NEED TO SPEAK UP JUST A LITTLE BIT SO EVERY, LIKE, HEAR A LITTLE SHORT, SIR.
UM, I NEED TO SPEAK UP 4 0 0 6 GENTLEMEN.
I HAVE BEEN, UM, PUTTING UP WITH THAT ROAD AS I'M SURE MANY OF YOU WILL
I HAVE BUSINESS INTERESTS ON HARBOR POINT ROAD.
THE AIRPORT IS OURS, FLYING GRAPE BEAM, MY UPHOLSTERY SHOP, AS WELL AS MY FLIGHT SCHOOL.
SO WE HAVE DRAMATIC INTERESTS THERE THAT HAVE BEEN VERY HIGHLY AFFECTED BY THAT ROAD AND THE LACK OF ITS CARE.
A COUPLE OF THINGS I'D LIKE TO ASK IS THAT WE DO RELEASE THE FUNDS.
DURING THE TENURE OF LAST COMMISSIONER, WE WERE GUARANTEED THAT THAT RULE WOULD BE FIXED BY JUNE OF 14.
MANY REPRESENTATIONS, NONE OF THEM HAVE COME TO FRUITION.
IN SPEAKING WITH COMMISSIONER ALLEN, HE'S ASSURE ME THAT THIS MEETING WAS TO A FORMALITY OF EAST OF FUNDS AND GET THIS RULE DONE.
THE, THE FACTS THAT WE HAVE BEEN PUT ON HOLD FOR SO LONG BECAUSE OF, UH, THE INABILITY FOR THE ROAD TO BE REPAIRED HAS INCLEMENT WEATHER.
ALL THE OTHER REASONS DON'T BRING TO BE TRUE.
AND LIKE A COUPLE OF THINGS POSSIBLE FOR US TO BE ASSURED THAT THIS IS ACTUALLY GONNA TAKE PLACE A TIMETABLE WHEN IT'S GONNA BE DONE.
LIKE THIS IS A 30 TO 40% MINIMUM EFFECT ON OUR BUSINESSES.
WE BELIEVED IN REPRESENTATIONS THAT GONNA BE DONE.
COUPLE OTHER THINGS I'VE SEEN THAT IS A QUESTION TO ME.
I SEE PILES AND PILES OF ASPHALT STUCK ALONG ROADS IN SPECIFIC AREAS THAT HAVE BEAUTIFUL ROADS.
BEEN SINCE OCTOBER OF LAST YEAR.
WE'VE HAD MANY, MANY GOOD DAYS.
WHY COULDN'T THAT ASPHALT BE ALLOCATED FOR THAT ROAD? WE HAD SCHOOL BUSES GOING DOWN THAT ROAD.
I PERSONALLY HAVE HAD TO REALIGN MY TRUCK THREE TIMES IN THE LAST TWO YEARS FOR THAT BECAUSE OF THAT ROAD.
WE DON'T DRIVE DOWN IT FAST 'CAUSE THERE'S NO POSSIBLE, IT'S COMPLETELY IMPOSSIBLE.
SO I ASK YOU GUYS TO GET THIS DONE.
IT MAKES A BIG DIFFERENCE TO IN MANY PEOPLE'S LIVES IN THE AREA.
BUT I ALSO WANT TO FIND OUT WHY IT TOOK FOR SO LONG, WHY IT'S TAKEN SO LONG.
THIS IS, IT JUST DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE.
AND FROM MY POINT OF VIEW WITH THE REPEATED REQUEST, THE THE THINGS THAT WE'VE BEEN TOLD, THEY DON'T MAKE SENSE AND THEY'RE NOT TRUE.
SO I WANT FIND, I WANNA GET TO THE BOTTOM OF WHY, WHY WE'RE TOLD ALL THIS STUFF AND IT DOESN'T TRUE, IT DOESN'T.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR COMMENT.
ALSO, WE'LL HAVE RANDY, UH, SQUI.
UH, APPRECIATE YOUR SERVICE TO THE COUNTY AND I'M LET THEM SOMETIMES BE A THANKLESS JOB.
SO THANK YOU FOR GIVING US THE OPPORTUNITY.
I WANNA TALK ON BEHALF OF THE COUNTY ROAD 4 0 0 6 AS WELL.
UH, MY WIFE AND I OWN THE REMODEL, OWN REMODELING BUSINESS.
WE'VE GOT A COUPLE OF JOBS GOING DOWN IN HARBOR POINT.
UH, ALSO OWN THE BUSINESS IN, UH, IN MAYBANK AND IMMEDIATE PAST PRESIDENT OF CITY CREEK COUNTRY CLUB.
I CAN TELL YOU THAT A LOT OF OUR MEMBERS, AS FAR AS THE CLUB IS CONCERNED, USE THAT CUT THROUGH QUITE OFTEN AND TO, TO GET OVER TO US.
AND, AND, UH, I'VE HAD PEOPLE COMPLAIN ABOUT THAT ROAD FOR THE LAST 6, 8, 10 MONTHS TO ME AS WELL.
UH, I WOULD JUST ENCOURAGE YOU GUYS TO, TO, UH, RELEASE THE FUNDS AND LET'S GET THAT ROAD FIXED.
'CAUSE IT TRULY IS A HAZARD AND I DON'T LIKE THE IDEA OF MY WIFE HAVING TO DRIVE DOWN
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THAT ROAD EVERY DAY.AND, UH, SO PLEASE RELEASE THOSE FUNDS.
NEXT WILL BE, UH, CURTIS SNOW, CITY MANAGER, CITY OF KAUFMAN, CURTIS.
CURTIS, YOU NORMALLY DON'T HAVE TO BE TOLD TO SPEAK UP.
ACTUALLY THE OPPOSITE HEARING, PROBLEM WITH HEARING PROBLEM, TRY TO COMPENSATE.
GOOD MORNING, UH, JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS.
UH, I'M HERE TO TELL YOU THAT THE CITY OF I SPEAK FOR THE KAMAN CITY COUNCIL APPROVED A LETTER OF INTENT TO JOIN THE 9 1 1 PROGRAM.
UH, WE, UH, URGE YOU TO MOVE FORWARD WITH IT.
IT'S A COST SAVING IDEA THAT THE CITIZEN CALL DOWN AT TIME.
APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE, MR. SNOW.
THANK NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS THE, UH, UH, ROUTINE CORRESPONDENCE.
WE DID RECEIVE A VERY NICE LETTER FROM PASTOR NANCY LEY FROM THE, UH, GENESIS CENTER.
UH, AND I WANTED THE COURT TO HAVE COPIES OF THAT.
I'LL ALSO PROVIDE SOME FOR THE, UH, MEDIA AS WELL.
UH, WE HAVE A VERY, UH, LENGTHY, UH, CONSENT AGENDA, AND I'LL READ THROUGH THOSE ITEMS VERY QUICKLY.
ITEM A IS THE ACCEPTANCE OF MINUTES, UH, FROM THE REGULAR MEETING ON FEBRUARY THE NINTH.
A SPECIAL MEETING ON FEBRUARY THE NINTH, UH, FEBRUARY THE 10TH, FEBRUARY THE 20TH, FEBRUARY THE 25TH, AND FEBRUARY THE 27TH.
UH, ITEM B IS TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER PROCLAIMING THE WEEK OF MARCH THE 15TH THROUGH MARCH 21ST IS POISONED AND PREVENTION WEEK IN KAUFMAN COUNTY.
ITEM NUMBER C IS TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER REAPPOINTING MER BELL AND MICKEY AL TO THE EMERGENCY SERVICES DISTRICT.
NUMBER SIX FOR TWO YEAR TERMS. ITEM D IS TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER REAPPOINTING COMMISSIONER SHANE AND COMMISSIONER ROSALE TO THE TAX INCREMENT FINANCING POWER CENTER BOARD FOR THE CITY OF TERRELL.
ITEM E IS TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE CERTIFICATE OF COURSE, COMPLETION OF OPEN MEETINGS ACT, AND THE PUBLIC INFORMA, UH, INFORMATION ACT, UH, FOR COMMISSIONER JAKE ALLEN.
UH, ITEM F IS TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER APPROVING THE OFFICIAL BOND OF DANIEL PAUL HUTCHINSON, A DEPUTY CONSTABLE OF PRECINCT ONE.
ITEM G IS TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER APPROVING THE RESOLUTION SUPPORTING THE CLEAN FLEET POLICY AND THE CLEAN FLEET POLICY FROM THE NORTH CENTRAL TEXAS COUNCIL GOVERNANCE.
UH, THAT WAS ADDED THAT LAST PART, THAT'S WHERE THIS POLICY CAME FROM.
ITEM, UH, H IS TO DISCUSS, UH, THE APPROVAL OF LUMP SUM PAYMENT FOR INTER LOCAL COOPERATIVE BETWEEN KAUFMAN COUNTY AND THE CITY OF MAYBANK FOR THE COUNTY ROAD 40 0 6 PROJECT.
THE ONE WITH THE, WE'VE JUST, UH, HEARD ABOUT A LITTLE BIT ITEM I IS TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER REQUESTING DISBURSEMENT OF UNCLAIMED CAPITAL CREDITS FUNDS FROM THE TEXAS CONTROLLER, UH, PUBLIC ACCOUNTS RECEIVED FROM THE ELECTRIC COOPERATIVE BACK TO THE COUNTIES IN THE COOPERATIVE SERVICES AREA.
WE'VE DONE THAT FOR THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS, AND THAT AMOUNT OF MONEY VARIES FROM TIME TO TIME AND WE'VE ALWAYS USED IT IN THE PAST FOR, TO GO TOWARDS THE, UH, CHILDREN'S ADVOCACY CENTER.
BUT WE'LL JUST WAIT AND SEE WHAT WE, UH, DO RECEIVE BACK IF THERE ARE ANY UNCLAIMED, UH, CAPITAL CREDITS FROM THAT FUND THIS YEAR.
ITEM J IS TO DISCUSS AND APPROVE AN UNDER LOCAL AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY OF COTTONWOOD FOR ROAD MAINTENANCE FOR COLTON COUNTY PRECINCT NUMBER FOUR.
UH, THAT'S IN MR. ALLEN'S, UH, PRECINCT.
ITEM K IS TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER AMENDMENT OF SEARCH GRANT TO CHANGE ROAD WORK TO BE PERFORMED ON COUNTY ROAD 40 17 INSTEAD OF, UH, COUNTY ROAD 40 16, HOFFMAN COUNTY PRECINCT FOUR.
UH, ITEM L AS TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER PURCHASING AN ASPHALT ZIPPER FOR A PRECINCT FOUR THROUGH THE HGAC.
THAT'S THE HOUSTON GALVESTON AREA PURCHASING PROPERTY.
ITEM M IS TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER PURCHASING A JOHN DEERE TRACTOR FOR PRECINCT THREE, UH, I'M SORRY, PRECINCT TWO THROUGH THE BUYBOARD PURCHASE AND SEATING COOPERATIVE.
AND AN ITEM M IS TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ADVERTISING FOR A PRISONER TRANSPORT VAN FOR COUGHLIN COUNTY SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT UTILIZING, UH, COMMISSIONER UH, COMMISSARY FUNDS.
AND I BELIEVE THAT'S THE FUND THAT THE SHERIFF OPERATES AT THE JAIL.
AND IT CAN ONLY BE USED FOR IMPROVEMENTS, UH, FOR THE, UH, INMATES THAT ARE HOUSED THERE.
UH, ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON ANY OF THESE ITEMS THAT WE HAVE ON THE CONSENT OPINION? I'VE GOT A COMMENT ON THE RESOLUTION SUPPORTING THE CLEAN PLEA POLICY.
I JUST WANNA MAKE THE COURT AWARE OF, UH, ON SECTION THREE, UM, ITEM 3.1, WE UNDER, WE SIGN THIS, WE MUST MAINTAIN MEMBERSHIP AND ACTIVE PARTICIPATION AND
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SUBMIT A TIMELY CLEAN FLEET POLICY REPORT.I'M NOT SURE WHAT THAT IS THOUGH.
UH, MAYBE WE SHOULD HAVE, UH, PAM OR SOMEBODY TO LOOK INTO THAT AND SEE, MAKE SURE WHAT'S COMPLIANT WITH THAT.
YOU'VE BEEN COMPLIANT WITH IT FOR YEARS.
AND WHEN YOU WERE IN MY OFFICE THE OTHER DAY, YOU ASKED, I ASKED YOU IF YOU WERE OKAY WITH THIS.
I'M I I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE IT'S CLEAR THAT WE COMPLY WITH IT.
UH, NO, ACTUALLY ON ITEM 4.1, SECTION FOUR UH, SAYS WE MUST PROVIDE IN-HOUSE TRAINING AND OR ATTENDING TRAINING ADMINISTERED BY
I THINK WE MAKE SURE WE HAVE A SCHEDULE.
I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THE COURT KNEW WE WERE OBLIGATED TO DO THAT.
I'LL MAKE SURE THAT IS FOLLOWED UP ON.
DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA? NOT LET, ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO, UH, ACCEPT AS PRINTED.
I'LL, MR. PHILLIPS MAKES THAT MOTION.
DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND, SECOND FOR COMMISSIONER ROSALE.
THOSE OPPOSED? THE NEXT ITEM IS TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER OPTIONS FOR FINANCING EQUIPMENT FOR THE COUNTY 9 1 1 EOC CENTER, INCLUDING RELATED RADIOS AND MOBILE, UH, AND OTHER EQUIPMENT RELATED THEREOF.
AND I HAVE ASKED, UH, OUR FINANCIAL ADVISOR AND THEIR BOND ADVISOR TO COME THIS MORNING AT THE REQUEST OF SOME OF THE COURT MEMBERS, JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT WE FULLY UNDERSTAND, UH, WHAT THE BARRING OF MONEY IS INVOLVED IN WITH THIS EQUIPMENT AS WE MOVE FORWARD WITH IT.
AND SO, MR. POLLAN AND MR. WILLIFORD, IF YOU WOULD COME FORWARD, I BELIEVE YOU HAVE PROVIDED THE COURT WITH SOME INFORMATION THIS MORNING AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO HEARING WHAT YOU HAVE TO TELL US.
JUDGE, UH, FOR THE RECORD, UH, GEORGE FIRST SOUTHWEST GEORGE, MOVE THAT MICROPHONE OVER IN FRONT OF YOU THERE A LITTLE BIT.
WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO WORK, GIVE US A BETTER SET UP ON OUR MAC, BUT, UH, WE'RE GONNA HAVE THAT TODAY.
ALRIGHT, UH, AS, UH, JUDGE WOOD INDICATED, AND, AND YOU MAY HAVE RECEIVED PART OF THIS INFORMATION, UH, ELECTRONICALLY LATE IN THE WEEK, BUT HE HAD ASKED IF WE COULD PUT TOGETHER, UH, UH, SOME INFORMATION FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE COURT AND ANY OTHERS EXPLAINING WHAT, UH, THE COUNTY COULD DO AS FAR AS FINANCING IMPROVEMENTS, SPECIFICALLY IN THIS CASE, EQUIPMENT, UH, SUCH AS THE NINE ONE ONE, UH, UH, CALL CENTER EQUIPMENT AND SO ON.
AND SO WHAT I, UH, JUST HANDED OUT, UH, TRIES TO ADDRESS THAT, UH, IN, IN AN UNDERSTANDABLE WAY.
THE FIRST PAGE JUST LISTS THE DEBT INSTRUMENTS.
AND BY THE WAY, I GONNA DEFER TO TOM POLLEN ANY, UH, QUESTIONS SPECIFICALLY ABOUT THE LEGAL PROCEDURE OR AUTHORITY, UH, FOR, UH, FINANCING OR ISSUANCE OF ANY OF DEBT HE CAN ADDRESS AS FAR AS THE SPECIFIC LEGAL ASPECTS.
BUT AT ANY RATE, WHAT THIS LIST ARE DEAD INSTRUMENTS THAT ARE GENERALLY AUTHORIZED, UH, FOR USE AND INSTRUMENTS BY TEXAS COUNTIES TO FINANCE, UH, VARIOUS TYPES OF CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS.
FIRST, THERE'S VOTER GENERAL OBLIGATION BONDS, CERTIFICATES OF OBLIGATION, CONTRACTUAL OBLIGATIONS, WHICH ARE WHAT ARE BEING CONSIDERED OR, OR WERE, UH, ORIGINALLY, UH, UH, WITH REGARD TO THE 9 1 1 CENTER.
AND CONTRACTUAL OBLIGATIONS CAN ONLY BE USED FOR PERSONAL PROPERTY ACQUISITION, NO REAL ESTATE, UH, OR FIXED ASSET, UH, UH, IMPROVEMENTS.
AND THE LAST WOULD BE TAX NOTES.
THE LIMITATION IS TAX NOTES CAN ONLY BE ISSUED WITH A FINAL SECURITY, NOT OVER SEVEN YEARS FROM THE DATE OF ISSUANCE.
AND AS IT SAYS AT THE BOTTOM OF THAT FIRST PAGE, ALL OF THE ABOVE ARE SECURED BY PROPERTY TAXES.
UH, WHAT THAT GIVES IS THE MOST SECURE FORM OF COUNTY CREDIT FOR BORROWING OR OR UNDERTAKING DEBT FINANCING.
THEREFORE, LIKE THE SECOND BULLET SAYS, THAT ASSURES OR ENABLES THE COUNTY TO ACHIEVE THE LOWER INTEREST RATES AND THEREFORE LOWER COSTS OVER THE LIFE OF ANY FINANCING.
NOW THE LAST BULLET INDICATES TO THE EXTENT THERE ARE IN FACT OTHER REVENUES FROM SOME OTHER SOURCE AVAILABLE TO BE USED FOR DEBT SERVICE, THEN THEY CAN BE USED.
AND IF THAT'S THE CASE, THEN UH, THE COUNTY WOULDN'T
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HAVE TO SET A PACK TRADE.UH, WITH REGARD TO THE AMOUNT OF OTHER REVENUES THAT ARE AVAILABLE, A GOOD ANALOGY WOULD BE CITIES.
UH, THEY FINANCE A LOT OF THINGS VERY SIMILAR.
HOWEVER, THEY'RE NOT SOLELY RELYING ON PROPERTY TAXES FOR BULK OF THE REVENUES.
UH, AND, AND THEY HAVE SEPARATE ENTERPRISE FUNDS, WATER AND SEWER, FOR EXAMPLE.
AND IN A LOT OF CASES THEY'LL USE TAX BACK, UH, DEBT ISSUANCE TO FINANCE IMPROVEMENTS.
THE INTENT THAT THE REVENUES FROM THOSE SYSTEMS WILL BE USED TO MAKE PAYMENTS.
UH, UH, COUNTIES, LIKE I SAID, DON'T HAVE AS DIVERSE REVENUE SOURCES TYPICALLY.
UH, BUT THERE, IF THERE IS SOMETHING COMING IN, UH, ASIDE FROM TAXES THAT OTHERWISE ARE NOT EARMARKED FOR WHATEVER THEY CAN BE USED FOR DEBT SERVICE.
THE SECOND PHASE LISTS ANOTHER, UH, POTENTIAL TYPE OF FINANCING METHOD THAT'S LEASE PURCHASE FINANCING.
UM, WHAT WE TYPICALLY SEE IS THAT THAT'S, UH, MORE COMMONLY USED FOR ROLLING STOCK, UH, AND, AND EQUIPMENT LIKE THAT.
UH, A LOT OF IT'S VENDOR, UH, PROVIDED, UH, IN THOSE CASES AND SO ON, BUT CAN BE USED OTHER TYPES OF, UH, UH, PROPERTY, PERSONAL PROPERTY IN PARTICULAR.
SOMETIMES THOSE LEASES THEMSELVES, UH, CONTAIN THE PROVISION THAT THEY'RE SECURED BY PROPERTY TAXES.
UH, THAT JUST GIVES THE, THE FULL ABILITY, UH, THAT THEY KNOW THEY'RE GONNA BE PAID.
UH, AS SHOWN ON THE THIRD BULLET UNDER LEASE PURCHASED FINANCING, SOMETIMES THEY'RE SOLELY, UH, PAYABLE FROM AN ANNUAL APPROPRIATION BY THE GOVERNING BODY OF THE COURT.
IN THIS CASE, AS IS INDICATED, PARTICULARLY IF IT'S AN ANNUAL APPROPRIATION BACK CREDIT, THAT'S GONNA CARRY A MUCH HIGHER INTEREST RATE IN COST OF FINANCING THAN USING ANY OF THE OTHER METHODS I SHOWED ON THE FIRST PAGE.
UH, WHAT I RUN INTO IS SOMETIMES GOVERNING BODIES OR SOME FOLKS MAY THINK THAT, WELL, IF IT'S AN ANNUAL APPROPRIATION TYPE OBLIGATION, THAT MEANS THAT IF FOR WHATEVER REASON, UH, YOU DON'T WANT TO FULFILL THE PAYMENT THROUGH THE FULL TERM, UH, YOU CAN FAILED TO PROCREATE AND, AND THE DEAL UNWIND LITERALLY, TECHNICALLY AND LEGALLY, THAT COULD BE THE CASE.
BUT WHAT YOU SEE AT THE BOTTOM IS FROM THE CREDIT STANDPOINT, UH, CAN BE QUITE DAMAGED.
FOR ONE, THE RATING AGENCIES, EVEN IF IT'S NOT RATED, UH, BY THEM, IF THEY KNOW AN ENTITY FAILS TO APPROPRIATE AN OBLIGATION, THEN THEY WILL ASSESS THE DEBT AND TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION ALL THE DEBT THEY DO HAVE.
AND WE SEEN A LOT OF CASES WHERE THEY ACTUALLY TAKE THE RATING OF THAT IN THE DOWN BELOW INVESTMENT RATE, MEANING THAT, UH, THE, UH, IN THE NEAR FUTURE AND EVEN BE A MUCH HIGHER RATE.
ALSO, UH, IF YOU'VE GOT ROAD EQUIPMENT VENDORS OR OTHERS THAT THINKING ABOUT DOING LEASE PURCHASE AND FIND OUT, UH, THROUGH THEIR DUE DILIGENCE THAT WELL AN ENTITY FAILED TO APPROPRIATE ON SOME OTHER OBLIGATION, IN ALL LIKELIHOOD, IT CREATES RELUCTANCE ON THEIR PART TO WANNA ENTER A SIMILAR TYPE ARRANGEMENT.
SO IT PRETTY MUCH CANCELS OUT FINANCING ABILITY.
THE ON PAGE THREE, UH, WE JUST MENTIONED BANK LOANS BECAUSE I KNOW THE QUESTION HAS ARISEN.
WHAT YOU'LL SEE THERE IS FOR TEXAS COUNTY CITIES AND OTHER GOVERNMENTAL ENTITIES, BANK LOANS IN THE FORM OF JUST GOING IN AND ENTERING INTO A NOTE, UH, TYPE OBLIGATION.
THE BANK ARE NOT LEGAL, UH, DEBT INSTRUMENTS FOR ANYTHING OVER, UH, THE MATURITY BEYOND THE END OF THE CURRENT FISCAL YEAR.
SO REALLY, BANK LOANS ARE ONLY USEFUL BY GOVERNMENT BODIES AS A CASH FLOW MECHANISM JUST WITH REGARD TO WHAT MIGHT BE NEEDED IN THE COURSE OF THE YEAR WITH THAT TO BE PAID AT THE END OF THE YEAR.
SO THEY'RE NOT LEGAL TO BE ENTERED INTO IN REGARD TO 3, 5, 10 YEAR TYPE, UH, DEBT OBLIGATION.
AND TO CAN ELABORATE, EXPLAIN THAT ON PAGE FOUR.
UH, REALLY JUST THE CONCLUSIONS FROM EVERYTHING THAT I, UH, TRY TO EXPLAIN THAT, UH, IN REALITY, ANY KIND OF OBLIGATION THAT A, UH, CITY COUNTY COMMISSIONER'S COURT ON PART OF THE COUNTY ENTERS INTO IS A, AN OBLIGATION OF THE COUNTY TO BE PAID, UH, IN ITS ENTIRETY IN FULL.
AND THEN AS IT SAYS IN THE MIDDLE OF THE PAGE, AGAIN, FROM PRACTICAL STANDPOINT, TAX REVENUES ARE, THE PRIMARY IS NOT IN A LOT OF CASES, SO REVENUE SOURCE AND SOME OTHER REVENUES THAT COUNTIES HAVE TO RELY ON.
SO, TAXES, PROPERTY TAXES ARE USED BY OPERATIONS AS WELL AS DEBT SERVICE.
AND AS INDICATED TO THE EXTENT THERE ARE, IN FACT OTHER EVIDENCE THAT ARE AVAILABLE AND MIGHT HAVE APPLICATION FOR A PROJECT IN COURT ASSOCIATED, THEN THEY CAN BE USED IN OF
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HAVING SET A TAX RATE.UH, AND THEN AT THE BOTTOM, UH, GOING BACK TO THE FIRST PAGE THAT I, UH, COVERED, UH, AUTHORIZED DEBT INSTRUMENTS, THOSE FOUR THAT WENT OVER, UH, SECURED BY PROPERTY TAXES ARE REALLY THE LOWEST COST OF FINANCING THAT COUNTY OR A CITY, ANY GOVERNMENTAL BODY IN THE STATE OF TEXAS THAT CAN ENTER INTO.
AND THEREFORE, WHEN WE'RE ASKED, WHEN WE'RE DOING AN EVALUATION, WHATEVER ON PART OF SOMEONE, AS IT SAYS, ANY, MOST CASES ALTERNATIVE FINANC MECHANISM IS NOT AS FAVORABLE OR DOESN'T MAKE AS MUCH SENSE FROM AN ECONOMIC STANDPOINT, THE COURT IS NOT REALLY ADVISABLE TO UNDERTAKE THE, UH, JUDGE ASKED FOR SOME QUANTITATIVE, UH, INFORMATION.
UH, AND I'LL QUICKLY GO THROUGH THAT.
ON PAGE FIVE IS THE ORIGINAL TABULATION OF BIDS AND BANKS THAT WAS RECEIVED WITH THE COUNTY TO PURCHASE THE CONTRACTUAL OBLIGATIONS.
AND THOSE CAME IN AT THE END OF JANUARY WITH RESPECT TO EXPECTED COURT ACTION AT THE FIRST MEETING IN FEBRUARY.
AND AS YOU'LL SEE, UH, AMERICAN NATIONAL BANK HAD A RATE OF 2.05%, WAS CONSIDERED THE MOST FAVORABLE BID.
NOW YOU CAN SAY, WELL, BACK TO TEXAS WAS AT 2.03.
HOWEVER, WHEN YOU TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THEIR TOTAL ISSUANCE RELATED COST AND THE FACT THAT ANY PREPAYMENT WAS GONNA BE SUBJECT TO A MAY TO OR REALLY A PENALTY, UH, THEY WEREN'T AS FAVORABLE AS AMERICAN NATIONAL AMERICAN NATION, THE LOWEST INTEREST.
THE FACT THAT IT'S PREPAYABLE, UH, ANY TIME AFTER THE FIRST YEAR, UH, JUST AT PAR PLUS INTEREST, UH, MADE IT THE BEST BID FROM JUST AN INTEREST RATE STANDPOINT, THE NEXT MOST FAVORABLE WOULD'VE BEEN, UH, THE BANK OF AMERICA AT 2.3 TO NEARLY THREE, 2.23% ON PAGE SIX, WOULD THE COURT NOT ACTUALLY IN FEBRUARY AND NOT REALLY BEING ABLE TO ACT UNTIL NOW? UH, IT PUT AMERICAN NATIONAL BANK WITH REGARD TO, UH, PURCHASE OF THE CONTRACTUAL OBLIGATIONS IN A, UH, SITUATION WHERE THE MARKET HAD MOVED, UH, DRAMATICALLY.
WHAT THEY DID, UH, REALLY ABOUT TWO OR THREE WEEKS AGO IS SAY THAT THEY WOULD STAND, UH, READY TO CONTINUE TO BE COMMITTED TO PURCHASE THE CONTRACTUAL OBLIGATIONS.
INTEREST RATE WILL BE 20 BASIS POINTS OR TWO 10TH PERCENT HIGHER, 2.25%.
THE JUDGE ASKED US, AND WE VERIFIED THE 12 YEAR MATURITY THAT WAS PLANNED, THAT INTEREST RATE 12 YEAR MATURITY AS FAR AS TAXES GONE UP ABOUT 39 40 BASIS.
SO WHAT THAT MEANS IS THE BANK HAD LITERALLY OVER ACCOMMODATED THE COUNTY, UH, BY WILLING TO SAY, WE'LL ONLY ASSESS HALF OF WHAT THE MARKET, UH, THROUGH THAT DATE HAD MOVED AND BE WILLING TO HOLD IT.
I WAS EXPLAINING TO TOM, I WAS JUST ON A MARKET CALL THAT WE HAVE EVERY MONDAY MORNING, UH, BEFORE I WALKED IN THIS MORNING TAX EXEMPT, AND REALLY THE WHOLE INTEREST RATE MARKET'S CONTINUING TO MOVE AWAY.
SO HAVING THE 2.25% RATE, UH, COMMITTED FOR 12 YEAR OBLIGATION, UH, IS EXTREMELY FAVORABLE FROM OUR VIEW.
WHAT THIS, UH, PAGE SIX SHOWS IS, UH, THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE 2.05 AND THE 2.5.
NOW, UH, HAD THE TWO 5% RATE AND THE, THIS OCCURRED IN FEBRUARY.
YOU SEE SOMEWHERE YEAR TO YEAR BONDS ARE IN $5,000 OR MUNICIPAL DEBT INCREMENTS.
UH, A THOUSAND TO 8,000 AT THE MOST A YEAR DIFFERENCE.
MORE COSTLY NOW, AND THAT'S ABOUT 45,000 BECAUSE OF THE DELAY.
WELL, IN THAT, THAT'S NOT EVEN INDICATIVE OF THE FULL MOVEMENT IN THE MARKET.
IF YOU WANNA BACK UP, IT'D PROBABLY BE, YOU KNOW, LIKE I SAID, 2 45, 2 0.5% AT BEST, UH, FROM THE SAME TYPE BID.
ON PAGE SEVEN, UH, WE DO A COMPARISON OF THE, UH, AMERICAN NATIONAL BANK BID TO PURCHASE, BOTH THE FEBRUARY THAT'S SCENARIO TWO IN COLUMNS F THROUGH, UH, I, AND THEN THE, UH, THE CURRENT, UH, RATE THAT'S BEING OFFERED, THE 2.25 THAT'S IN COLUMNS K THROUGH N THAT'S COMPARED TO A 10 YEAR LEASE PURCHASE FINANCING PROPOSAL THAT WAS GIVEN BY, UH, UH, THE VENDOR ON THIS PROJECT.
THE RATE IN THAT CASE IS 3.39%.
SO WHAT YOU SEE IS CONSIDERATION OF A LEASE
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PURCHASE VERSUS THE CONTRACTUAL OBLIGATIONS, WHICH IS, UH, BY ITSELF COST 1.1400000000000001% MORE, UH, OVER TIME.BUT IF YOU GO TO THE VERY, UH, FAR RIGHT HAND COLUMN THAT'S COMPARISON, THAT LEASE TO THE CURRENT 2.25 12 YEAR, AND YOU'LL SEE FOR YEARS ONE THROUGH 10, IT COSTS 80,000 OR SO A YEAR MORE IN DEBT SERVICE.
AND ADMITTEDLY THE LAST TWO YEARS, OR TWO YEARS LONGER THAN THE, THE, UH, LEASE WOULD BE.
SO, UH, IT WOULD BE DEBT SERVICE THAT OTHERWISE WOULDN'T EXIST.
BUT IN BOTTOM LINE, THE 2.25% 12 YEAR DEAL IS $87,000 LESS COSTLY THAN THE 10 YEAR LEASE PURCHASE AT 3.39, PAGE EIGHT.
UH, IT TAKES IT IF IT DESIRED REALLY TO MORE OF AN APPLE, APPLE, IT TAKES EVERYTHING TO A 10 YEAR AGAIN, UH, AMERICAN NATIONAL, UH, INSTEAD OF THE 12 YEAR, 10 YEAR, UH, BID, AND YOU GO AGAIN TO THE FAR RIGHT HAND COLUMN AND THAT COMPARES IT TO THE 10 YEAR LEASE AND IT'S ABOUT 20,000 OR JUST SLIGHTLY UNDER PER YEAR, UH, CHEAPER TO DO CONTRACTUAL OBLIGATIONS THAN THE 3.39% LEASE.
AND OVER THE, OF THE BILL, THAT'D BE $177,000 AT THE BOTTOM LAST COST, THE FINAL PAGE WAS, UH, JUST AS A FRIDAY, THE JUDGE HAD ASKED, UH, IF WE COULD COMPARE AMERICAN NATIONAL'S BID, UH, AND, AND THEN, OR HAVE IT REFLECTED AND SHOW THE, UH, HARRIS, UH, BID AT 3.39%, WHICH IS BETTER TO BE HONEST THAN WHAT THEY HAD QUOTED BACK IN OCTOBER.
UH, THEY QUOTED 3.7 FOR A 10 YEAR OR THREE NINE, UH, FOR A 12 YEAR FINANCING, UH, WHICH IN THAT CASE WOULD BE ABOUT $50,000 MORE THAN THEIR 10 YEAR OR 10 50 SERVICE.
BUT AGAIN, UH, TWO YEARS SHORTER.
UH, SO THAT, UH, IT'S LESS TWO 70,000 LESS THAN THEIR 12 YEAR DEAL.
I HOPE THAT'S NOT TOO MANY NUMBERS TO BE CONFUSING, BUT JUST WANTED TO KIND OF GIVE EVERY POSSIBLE COMPARISON THAT REQUEST JUDGE WOOD SO THAT IT COULD BE SHOWN THAT, THAT THE BANK SAYING WE'LL PURCHASE CONTRACTUAL OBLIGATIONS AT A 2.25% RATE WAS REALLY ECONOMICALLY BETTER THAN ANYTHING THAT OTHERWISE WOULD BE CONSIDERED AND STILL A BETTER RATE THAN ANYTHING ELSE THAT'S OUT THERE AS FAR AS, YES, LIKE I SAID, THEY CONCEDED HALF OF WHAT THE MARKET HAD MOVED AS OF A COUPLE WEEKS AGO, AND WE CONTINUE TO SEE INTEREST RATES DRIFT A LITTLE HIGHER.
SO IT REALLY PUTS THE COUNTY APART FROM THEIR COMMITMENT THAT'S LOCKED INTO TO DO IT AT THAT RATE, AT RISK THAT ANYTHING EVEN TRYING TO GO BACK TO, UH, OTHER BANKS OF THE SAME GROUP.
SO WHAT YOU BUY FOR NOW, UH, RATE WOULD BE SUBSTANTIALLY HIGHER.
BEFORE YOU FINISH, LET ME ASK ANY OF THE COMMISSIONERS, COMMISSIONER ALI, OR DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT WHAT MR. JUST PRESENTED ABOUT THE FINANCING? NO.
OKAY, TOM, THANK YOU VERY MUCH, TOM.
NOW YOU'RE THE, THE, I'M NOT SAYING YOU'RE OLD, BUT YOU'RE THE RESIDENT EXPERT ON THIS.
YOU, YOU KIND OF WROTE THE TEXTBOOK ON THIS FOR COUNTIES.
AND SO TELL US WHAT YOUR OPINION OF, UH, WHERE WE ARE ON THIS IS RIGHT NOW YOU HAVE, BEFORE YOU A PROPOSED CONTRACTUAL OBLIGATION.
THIS DOCUMENT IS APPROVED TO BE SELF EFFECTING WHERE YOU'LL HAVE PUT INTO EFFECT AND HAVE IT TAKE THE DOCUMENTS BACK TO THE ATTORNEY GENERAL TO GET APPROVAL.
THE MAIN THING TO REMEMBER ABOUT THIS CONTRACTUAL OBLIGATION, YOU ARE PLEDGING THE COUNTY PROPERTY TAX.
YOU ALSO HAVE A PRISONER CONTRACT THAT'S GENERATING SUFFICIENT REVENUES THAT SHOULD PAY THAT DEBT SERVICE.
IF YOU ELECT TO USE THAT, YOU CAN'T PLEDGE THAT ON THIS, BUT YOU CAN'T USE THAT.
AND IF YOU DO THAT, YOU'LL NOT LEVY THE TAX.
WHEN YOU DO YOUR BUDGET EVERY YEAR, YOU'LL APPROPRIATE THE FUNDS FROM THOSE THAT CONTRACT TO USE THAT OR SOME OTHER FUNDS.
IT'S ONLY FOR YOU TO NOT HAVE THE FUNDS THAT YOU WOULD HAVE TO LEVY THE TAX.
YOU ALSO HAVE A PERIOD OF 12 YEARS IS WHAT IT DID PROPOSE.
WE'VE CONFIRMED THAT THE EQUIPMENT USEFUL LIFE WILL
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EXTEND BEYOND THE FINANCING PERIOD THE BANK HAS PROVIDED.WE HAVE IN THE DOCUMENT THAT THESE OBLIGATIONS ARE CALLABLE IN WHOLE OR IN PART AFTER THE FIRST YEAR.
SO IF YOU HAVE ADDITIONAL FUNDS AFTER THE FIRST YEAR, YOU CAN APPLY TO REDUCE THE DEBT OR ANY TIME THEREAFTER, YOU CAN APPLY AND REDUCE THAT DEBT OBLIGATION.
SO YOU HAVE THE BEST OF ALL WORLDS FROM THAT STANDPOINT.
YOU'LL HAVE A VALID OBLIGATION.
YOU'VE GOT CREDIT FOR THE COUNTY, WHICH HAS CAUSED YOU TO HAVE THE LOWER INTEREST RATE, BUT YOU'RE NOT, IF YOU ARE JUDICIOUS ABOUT IT, YOU'RE NOT USING THAT CREDIT TO MAKE THE PAYMENT BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT, YOU WON'T HAVE TO LETTER THE TAX, YOU CAN USE THOSE OTHER REVENUES.
BUT THAT IS SOMETHING FOR YOU AS A COURT, WHEN YOU DO YOUR BUDGET, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO HAVE THE DISCIPLINE TO DO THAT OR YOU HAVE TO THE TAX, THE SITUATION YOU'RE FACED NOW IS YOU'VE GOT A PROPOSAL, YOU'VE GOT OR YOU'VE GOT A BID FROM A VENDOR.
AND UNDER THE LAW, BEFORE YOU SPEND MONEY, YOU HAVE TO HAVE A BID.
YOU'VE GOT VALID BID, YOU'VE GOT A PROPOSAL TO PUT THIS CONTRACT TO OBLIGATION IN PLACE AND GET IT APPROVED.
IT'LL BE FUNDED BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT THE BID, THEN YOU CAN USE IT.
AND AS SOON AS YOU GET THE FUNDS TO BUILD OUT YOUR YOUR PROGRAM, YOU ARE BENEFITED BECAUSE YOU HAVE A LOCAL BANK.
AND I'VE NOT SEEN THIS VERY OFTEN IN MY PRACTICE, BUT WHERE IT IS, IT'S BEEN A LOCAL BANK THAT'S COMES IN AND WANTS TO DO THE FINANCING AT HOME AND STANDING UP AND SAYING WE WE'RE GONNA STAND OUT HIS RIGHT.
AND SO GEORGE WILFORD HAS TOLD YOU THAT IT'S AN EXCELLENT RATE.
I'M NOT A FINANCIAL ADVISOR, I TELL YOU I SEE.
AND OTHER THINGS THAT I'M DOING THAT THIS IS MY OPINION, BUT THE DOCUMENTS ARE PRETTY STANDARD AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT IT IF YOU HAVE ANYTHING ABOUT PROCESS OR ANYTHING ELSE.
COMMISSIONER, LIK DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? ARE WE NOT REQUIRED TO GO BACK TO BID SINCE THE ION RAISE YOU? YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE PLACEMENT OF THE UH, OF THE, UH, OF THE FINDINGS.
THE STATE LAW REQUIRES THAT YOU BID THE EQUIPMENT, THE WE SELL BONDS OR OBLIGATIONS IN VARIOUS METHODS.
YOU'RE DOING THIS AND WHAT IS CALLED A PRIVATE PLACEMENT.
YOU HAVE YOUR FINANCIAL ADVISOR COME TO YOU WITH WHAT HE THINKS THE BEST OBLIGATION IS FOR YOU TO DO.
AND HE'S COME WITH THAT, THAT SATISFIES ALL THE REQUIREMENTS OF LAW.
THANK ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? UH, NO, NOT RELATED.
COMMISSIONER, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING STEVE? UH, NO.
AS LONG AS WE, UH, APPLY THE, THE FEDERAL CONTRACT, THEN WE DON'T HAVE TO DO THE TAX AS LONG AS YOU HAVE THE REVENUES FROM THAT, YOU KNOW, I CANNOT SAY HOW LONG THE CONTRACT WILL GO FOR.
HOPEFULLY IT'LL GO FOR A LONG, LONG TIME AND YOU'LL HAVE A LOT OF BENEFIT FROM IT.
BUT YOU ARE THE ONES THAT DETERMINE WHAT THOSE REVENUES YOU'RE GOING TO APPLY TO THIS.
THAT'S BEEN OUR INTENT SINCE WE'VE DISCUSSED THIS TWO WEEKS AGO, I BELIEVE WHENEVER IT WAS WE LAST MET THAT BECAUSE OF THE EXCELLENT CONTRACT THAT THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE MADE, IT'S REALLY WORKED OUT BENEFICIAL FOR THE COUNTY.
AND AS I SAID AT THAT TIME, AND WILL CONTINUE TO SAY THAT THERE WILL BE NO TAX INCREASE.
THAT 2.25% IS GUARANTEED FOR IF WE CONTINUE IT FOR THE 12 YEARS.
HOPEFULLY WE DO ALL THIS, THE 9 1 1 COMING BACK TO OUR COUNTY FROM THE STATE WHERE EVERYBODY PAYS 6 CENTS ON THEIR, THEIR CELL PHONE BILL OR THEIR HOME LINE OR WHATEVER.
SO WE CAN ALSO APPLY THIS IN THIS OBLIGATION.
AND, AND I THINK THAT HE TOLD US THE LAST TIME HE WAS HERE, SET UP A DIFFERENT SAFETY DESIGNATED FOR SPECIFIC ITEMS FOR TAX REASONS.
THAT'S WHAT I FULLY INTEND WE WOULD DO.
HOPEFULLY YEARS AND YEARS WILL BE PAID OFF.
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I KNOW YOU'VE BEEN INVOLVED IN THIS CONTRACT, UH, PARTICULARLY THE, UH, PROCUREMENT OF THE, UH, EQUIPMENT.UH, WOULD YOU CLEAR UP FOR ME OR FOR ANYBODY ELSE THAT HAS ANY, UH, MISUNDERSTANDING ABOUT, HAS THERE ALWAYS BEEN A FINANCING PACKAGE AVAILABLE TO KAMAN COUNTY TO BUY THIS EQUIPMENT? UH, YES SIR.
FROM DAY ONE, WE, WE TALKED ABOUT BIDDING THAT OUT.
THERE WAS A DESIRE ABOUT THE COURT TO SEEK FINANCING WITH, WITH PACKAGE.
PACKAGE AND OUT ASKED FOR BY PACKAGE THAT, SO ALL THE VENDORS THAT SUBMITTED A BID HAD A FINANCIAL PACKAGE, UH, WITH, UH, THEIR BID.
AND THAT WAS IN EVERY MEETING? THAT WAS EVERY HELD.
WELL, ALL THESE, UH, SO THERE'S NEVER BEEN A TIME WHEN WE BID THIS OUT THAT THERE WAS NOT A PORT FROM A VENDOR TO FINANCE THIS PACKAGE EQUIPMENT.
AND I WILL ADD LIKE YOUR GENERAL MISSION WHILE AGO WHEN YOU COULD AT LEAST PURCHASE, UH, WE KNEW GOING IN THAT PEOPLE THAT SELL THAT EQUIPMENT, THEY'RE NOT GONNA GIVE YOU THE RATE ON FINANCE, THAT THEY MAKE MORE MONEY.
SO, AND THAT WAS THE REASON THAT WE CHOSE TO GO OUT AND ASK FOR COMPETITIVE BIDS AND GOT FIRST SOUTHWEST AND DUST POLL, UH, DOING THAT.
AND IT SAVED US, UH, WELL OVER A HUNDRED THOUSAND INITIALLY.
UH, I SUPPOSE LONG WE DRAGGED THIS OUT, THE MORE CAUTIOUS.
SO FROM EVERY GET GO, FROM EVERY TIME THIS HAS BEEN DISCUSSED, IN EVERY MEETING OF THE COMMITTEE THAT YOU WORKED WITH, THERE'S ALWAYS BEEN A FINANCING PACKAGE AVAILABLE.
IS THAT CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT.
WHO SERVED ON THAT COMMITTEE? UH, RYAN BEAVERS.
TIM MOORE, GEORGE, UH, WHAT'S YOUR NAME'S? STEVEY
JUST WANTED TO CLEAR THAT UP THAT THERE HAS ALWAYS BEEN A FINANCING METHOD IN PLACE.
THERE'S NEVER BEEN ANYTHING SIGNED.
YOU SIGNED A CONTRACT? I DID, BUT WE HAD FINANCING IN PLACE THAT WE CHOSE TO GO OUTSIDE AND GET A BETTER BID.
BUT IT, THE FINANCING CONTRACT WAS, WAS AVAILABLE TO US COMMISSIONER.
IT WAS AVAILABLE BUT IT WASN'T ASSIGNED.
IS SOMETHING BEING AVAILABLE THE SAME SIGNING THE CONTRACT? WELL, WE'RE NOT, I, UH, SOMETHING BEING AVAILABLE THE SAME ASSIGNMENT.
I DON'T THINK THAT'S QUITE THE QUESTION THAT'S GOING ON BETWEEN YOU AND JUDGE WOOD.
WELL, NO, I THINK THESE GENTLEMEN EXPLAINED IT AND, AND WE'VE GOT, UM, JACK HAS KIND OF EXPLAINED IT A LITTLE BIT BETTER THAN ME JUST ANSWERING THAT PIVOTAL QUESTION.
I THINK WHAT JUDGE WOOD HAS INDICATED IS THAT WHEN HE SIGNED THIS CONTRACT BEFORE WITH THE FORMER COMMISSIONER'S COURT, IT WAS IN GOOD STANDING AND NOW WE'VE GOT A BETTER RATE.
AND SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT WE THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I'M, THAT'S ALL WE, THAT'S ALL WE'RE SAYING.
AND, AND IT, I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT THE QUESTION IS.
WE'VE GOT A COUPLE LAWYERS HERE.
WE'VE GOT MR. PAUL WHO CAN PROBABLY SAVE MY BACON IF I DON'T QUITE UNDERSTAND IT.
AND I THINK WE DIDN'T, WE DIDN'T EXERCISE THE OFFICER.
YES, THAT'S WHAT I'M UNDERSTANDING.
BUT, BUT I, I WANT TO NOT AVOID YOUR QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONER.
SO WHAT DID I NOT ANSWER FOR YOU? HEY, DID ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? UH, FROM THE COURT OR A JUDGE? WILEY, DID YOU NO, I HAVE ANY, I JUST WANTED MAKE SURE I ANSWERED AND DIDN'T, UM, AVOID A QUESTION THAT COMMISSIONER, WELL, ACCORDING TO MR. POLLIN'S OWN HANDBOOK HERE ON PUBLIC FINANCE, UH, SEVEN SOMETHING PAGES ON PAGE FOUR, IT CITES THE SAME ARTICLE OF THE CONSTITUTION DECISION, BUT NO DEBT FOR ANY PURPOSE SHALL EVER BE INCURRED IN ANY MANNER BY ANY CITY OR COUNTY UNLESS PROVISION IS MADE AT THE TIME OF CREATING THE SAME FOR LE COLLECTING SUFFICIENT TAX TO PAY INTEREST WITH THEIR OWN AND PROVIDE AT LEAST 2%, UH, AS A SAFETY CLIENT.
AND IF I, AND IF I UNDERSTOOD COMMISSIONER, AND YOU CAN COUNT ME, UH, MS POLL THAT THERE WAS A DEBT, I MEAN IN PLACE, BUT THEN HE JUST GOT A BETTER FROM AMERICAN NATIONAL.
SO I DON'T THINK THAT CHANGES.
BUT AM I MISSING SOMETHING SIR? I, I THINK WE HAVE AN ISSUE OF THE DEFINITION OF DEBT, CONSTITUTIONAL DEBT, WHICH THESE CONTRACTUAL OBLIGATIONS AT LEAST PURCHASE IS NOT A DEBT WHERE THERE'S A TAX PLEDGED BACKING IT.
SO THAT 2% DOES NOT COME INTO PLACE IN A LEASE PURCHASE OBLIGATION.
BUT IT, IT IS A DEBT INCUR FOR MULTIPLE YEARS.
AND YOU JUST STATED PREVIOUSLY, APPROPRIATION WITH A LEASE, IT'S A DIFFERENT INSTRUMENT IS NOT VIEWED AS A DEBT UNDER CONSTITUTION.
A LEASE PURCHASE IS NOT, NOT A DEBT, IT IS NOT A CONSTITUTIONAL DEBT.
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OF THE COUNTY, BUT IT'S NOT SUBJECT TO A PROPERTY TAX WAGE.IT'S GOTTA BE APPROPRIATED EVERY YEAR.
SO THAT'S HOW THAT ESCAPES THAT 2% GROUP.
WELL, I UNDERSTAND THE 2%, BUT GOING BACK, HAVING DA TO THE, TO THE, UH, CONSTITUTIONAL ARTICLE, THE, UH, THE BASIS OF THAT IS, SO YOU CAN'T OBLIGATE A FUTURE COURT TO AN UNFUNDED CONTRACT IS NOT, THAT WOULD BE WHAT THAT WOULD DO.
AND THAT'S WHY EVERY YEAR YOU'D HAVE TO HAVE THAT SUBJECT TO APPROPRIATION.
AND THE RE RECEIPT COMPANIES PROTECTION WOULD BE THAT IF YOU PUT THIS SYSTEM IN PLACE AND YOU DECIDED NOT TO FUND IT, THEN ALL THAT EQUIPMENT WOULD BE TAKEN OUT AND YOU WOULDN'T HAVE A COMMUNICATION SYSTEM.
MY, MY ONLY CONCERN HERE IS THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE ANYTHING SIGNED.
WE DIDN'T HAVE A LEASE PURCHASE SIGNED.
WE DIDN'T HAVE CO SIGNED, WE HAD NOTHING SIGNED WHEN WE SIGNED THE RADIO CONTRACT.
IS THAT CONTRACT STILL VALID OR SHOULD WE RE RESIGN THE CONTRACT? I THINK IT'S FINE.
I MISUNDERSTANDING WHAT THE POINT IS HERE.
I MEAN, I THINK EXPLAINED, AND I LIKE TO ADD KIND OF RELATED, THIS GENTLEMAN BY CATERPILLAR, JOHN DEERE TRACTOR, THERE'S A RATE THAT'S OFFERED THERE IN WHICH YOU, I UNDERSTAND THAT.
THAT'S, THAT'S NOT WHAT I'M ASKING.
WHAT I'M ASKING IS, SHOULD WE RESIGN THE HARRIS CONTRACT AT THE SAME TIME, SAME DATE THAT WE SIGNED THE FINANCING? SHOULD IT BE UPDATED OR, I DON'T SEE A REASON.
WE CAN LOOK AT IT, BUT I, BECAUSE THERE WAS NO SOURCE OF FUNDING SIGNED ON THE DATE OF CONTRACT SIGNED.
AND IT WASN'T SIGNED IN DECEMBER WHEN IT WAS PASSED IN COMMISSIONER COURT.
IT WAS SIGNED TWO MONTHS LATER, FEBRUARY OF SIXTH.
WE'VE GONE OVER THIS SEVERAL TIMES.
THE REASON IT WASN'T SIGNED IS THE COMMITTEE, AND I PARTICULARLY WOULD NOT GIVE THE JUDGE A CONTRACT TO SIGN BECAUSE THE COMMITTEE WANTED TO GET THE BEST PRICE.
WE WHITTLE DOWN, DOWN PRICE FOR THE COUNTY.
WE COULD THE JUDGE SIGN IT AND TWO MONTHS, DID YOU NOT PAY A HIGHER PRICE? DID YOU NOT HAVE THE, THE COS ON MR. POLL'S HERE ON IN? I'M NOT THAT, WAS THAT NOT AN AGENDA ITEM THAT HE STOPPED US FROM SIGNING? BECAUSE WE COULD NOTATE THAT.
I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW BECAUSE I WASN'T HERE THAT JOHN LONG WAS HERE.
BUT WHAT I CAN TELL YOU IS THAT THERE'S A QUESTION ABOUT THAT.
BUT WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT RIGHT NOW, WHAT THESE GENTLEMEN PRESENTED TO KEEP OUR ON THAT BALL, I THINK WE WERE READY TODAY TO GIVE THE INFORMATION THAT WE NEED ABOUT MOVING FORWARD ON THE FINANCING.
WE, GREG, THERE'S A QUESTION ABOUT THAT, THE EQUIPMENT.
WE'LL LOOK AT IT, BUT I DON'T THINK THERE'S ONE, I HAVE A CONTRACT OUT THERE THAT'S NOT VALID.
BUT YOUR CONCERN IS WE'RE FINE.
IF YOU'RE SAYING THE CONTRACT IS VALID, IT'S FINE.
ANOTHER QUESTION FOR OUR FINANCIAL ADVISORS OR FOR OUR PURCHASING AGENT FROM THE COURT.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH GENTLEMEN, FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.
I BELIEVE WE HAVE REPRESENTATIVES HERE FROM AMERICAN NATIONAL BANK, UH, CERTAINLY APPRECIATE THEIR DUE DILIGENCE IN, UH, PROVIDING US, UH, THE INFORMATION THAT WE HAD REQUESTED IN STICKING WITH US THROUGH THIS PROCESS.
UH, WE ALSO HAVE SEVERAL LETTERS OF SUPPORT, UH, FROM THE, UH, KAUFMAN CHAMBER OF COMMERCE.
I THINK WE HAVE ONE FROM THE, UH, TERRELL CHAMBER OF COMMERCE, UH, THE KAUFMAN COUNTY FIRE CHIEFS AND FIREFIGHTERS ASSOCIATION, UH, AS WELL AS I THINK THERE'S ONE MORE, UH, CRIME OFFICER.
WE ALSO HAVE, UH, LETTERS OF, UH, OF, UH, COMMITMENT FROM THE, UH, CITY OF SEVERAL OF THE CITIES.
I BELIEVE THE COMMISSIONER COURT HAS, UH, COPIES OF THAT.
THAT WAS A REQUEST, UH, FROM COMMISSIONER LIK AND COMMISSIONER HAS YOUR REQUEST.
IT WAS NOT A REQUEST OF THE COURT, IT WAS YOUR REQUEST, UH, INDIVIDUALLY, I BELIEVE.
DO HAVE YOU HAVE THIS LETTER? UH, I CAN GET THEM.
I'VE GOT, YES, NOW I HAVE THEM, YES, SIR.
UH, IN, IN THE ORDER THAT THEY WERE GIVEN TO ME, CITY OF THE COMBINE, YES, SIR.
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NEEDS AND THEY WILL PARTICIPATE IN TALKING ONE ONE ONE CALL CENTER OPERATIONS.YES, I WOULD SAY THAT WOULD BE A, A POSITIVE, CORRECT? YES, SIR.
I WOULD THINK THAT WOULD BE A POSITIVE.
CITY OF GRANDVILLE, YOU NEED A FEW MINUTES TO LOOK THROUGH THAT.
I'VE GOT, I'M JUST REFRESHING.
FIRST SENTENCE SAID, THIS LETTER WILL SERVE TO SUPPORT THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT IN THE CONCEPT.
THEY WILL LOOK AT ALL OPTIONS, IS THAT CORRECT? YES.
BUT IT SAYS SIR, THAT IT'S GONNA LOOK AT ALL, IT UNDERSTANDS THE IMPORTANCE OF THE CONCEPT IS LOOKING AT ALL THE OPTIONS PRESENTED IN THE ORDER TO MAKE AN INFORMED DECISION.
UH, CRANDALL, CITY COUNCIL'S EXPECTATION IS TO BE INCLUDED IN ALL DISCUSSIONS.
YEAH, BUT JUST BECAUSE THEY SAY THAT THEY DON'T HAVE TO BE INCLUDED IN ALL OUR DISCUSSIONS.
WELL, I, I WANT 'EM TO BE, WELL, THAT'S MY INTENT.
UM, IN ORDER TO MAKE AN INFORMED DECISION THAT WOULD NEED ME TO BELIEVE THAT THEY HAVEN'T MADE ONE YET, WOULD THAT BE A CORRECT ASSUMPTION? I CAN'T SPEAK TO WHAT MAYOR FRAZIER INTENDS, BUT WHEN A PERSON SENDS LETTERS AND THEY START OUT WITH SUPPORT, I WOULD TAKE IT AT FACE VALUE AND SAY THEY'RE GOING TO SUPPORT.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT HE INTENDED 'CAUSE I HAVEN'T SPOKEN TO HIM, SO I'D HAVE TO TAKE IT THAT THESE LETTERS ARE JUST SHOW LITERALLY WHAT THEY INTEND TO, WHICH IS SUPPORT.
BUT, BUT COMMISSIONER, I DON'T KNOW.
HAVE YOU SPOKEN TO MAYOR FRAZIER? NO.
UH, WITH THIS, I LOOK FORWARD TO CONTINUING TO UNDERSTAND THE GOVERNANCE PROFESSIONAL STANDARD AND ACCOUNTABILITY OF SUCH PARTNERSHIP.
DO I SEE WE INTEND TO PARTICIPATE IN THEY SHARED, IS THAT CORRECT? INCORRECT.
I THINK IT'S A CHOICE OF WORDS.
I THINK THE, THE TOPIC SENTENCE OF THIS LETTER IS, THIS LETTER WILL SERVE TO SUPPORT THE KAUFMAN COUNTY COMMISSIONER'S CONCEPT OF A COUNTYWIDE 9 1 1 DISPATCH CENTER.
BUT I WOULD SAY COMMISSIONER WITH RESPECT, UH, IF YOU WANT TO GO THROUGH EACH LETTER, THAT'S MY INTENT.
I THINK THAT ALL THESE LETTERS WHEN I LOOKED AT 'EM, WERE SUPPORTIVE OF IT.
THIS ONE SUPPORTS THE CONCEPT.
THEY WILL LOOK AT THE OPTIONS.
UH, THEY EXPECT TO BE INCLUDED IN THE DISCUSSIONS.
UH, THEY WANNA MAKE AN INFORMED DECISION AND THEY CONTINUE TO UNDERSTAND THE GOVERNANCE PROFESSIONAL STANDARD OF ACCOUNTABILITY IN SUCH PARTNERSHIP.
SO ARE YOU SAYING THIS IS A PROMISE TO PARTICIPATE IN A MONETARY WAY? YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW THAT, I MEAN, WHEN I WENT TOMAN SCHOOL WITH YOU, WE DID THE WORDS PARTICIPATE IN SUPPORT, HAD TWO DIFFERENT MEETINGS.
BUT, BUT COMMISSIONER I, I, I DON'T WANT PARSE THEIR WORDS.
I THINK, WELL, I DON'T EITHER.
I'M TRYING TO CLARIFY A LETTER.
LETTERS OF PARTICIPATION CAN ASK, ASK, IS THERE ANYBODY HERE? OF COURSE.
WHAT DO YOU WANNA DO? I WANT YOU TO ANSWER AS WELL AS YOU CAN IS QUESTION ALL I'M TRYING FROM THESE LETTERS.
I READ UP AND SAID, WERE SENT TO ME THAT EVERY ONE OF THESE MUNICIPALITIES HAVE SENT LETTERS OF COURT.
A LOT OF LETTERS ARE THE WAY PEOPLE DRAFT.
IS IT POSSIBLE THAT WE CAN HAVE YOU FORMULATE ONE LETTER OF INTENT THAT CLARIFIES ALL THESE, ALL THESE RAMBLING? I MEAN, WE HAVE FIVE OR SIX LETTERS HERE WITH NO FORMAT OTHER THAN SEVERAL OF 'EM SAY THEY SUPPORT THE CONCEPT.
THEY, THEY'RE WILLING TO LOOK AT THE OPTIONS, BUT ONLY TWO OF THEM SAY, WE WILL PAY MONETARILY.
WELL, I'LL SAY THAT IS KIM AND
IF THE COMMISSION COURT ASK ME TO DO THAT, I WOULD DO THAT.
BUT I THINK WHAT WE'RE DOING IS WE'RE WE'RE PLANNING, WE'RE MOVING THE GOLD POST.
THE LAST TIME I, THIS GOAL POST HAS BEEN IN PLACE FOR 10 MONTHS.
YOU ASKED ME A QUESTION, MR. YES MA'AM.
IS IT, FROM MY UNDERSTANDING, MR. LONGS IS HERE MOST OF MEETINGS BECAUSE HE HANDLES MOST OF THE CIVIL, I HANDLE ALL THE CRIMINAL.
AND SO IN TALKING, ONE OF THE IDEAS YOU GUYS HAVE FORMULATED WAS TO HAVE LETTER OF INTENT SO THAT YOU WOULD FEEL GOOD ABOUT THE PARTICIPATION.
HE REQUESTED THAT NOT THE ENTIRE COURT, BUT BECAUSE OF THAT, WE GOT THOSE LETTERS, TIM, OR
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ON THEIR OWN, THESE ENTITIES MISS TOWELS AND SENT THOSE.AND I THINK NOW WE'RE MOVING THE GOLD FLOW BECAUSE IT WAS HAVING INDIVIDUALLY SEND THOSE IN.
NOW YOU'RE ASKING OUR OFFICE, THE COURT VOTES ON IT TO GET A UNIFORM LETTER TO MAKE SURE.
I THINK WE'RE JUST DOING THINGS TO DELAY.
AND, AND I, I THINK FROM LOOKING THROUGH THESE, I RECALL NOW I LOOKED AT THESE WHEN THEY WERE ATTACHED TO SEND LAST WEEK, THAT THESE LETTERS, THE SPIRIT OF EVERY LETTER HERE FROM THE CITY OF COMBINE, FROM THE CITY OF CRANDALL, THE CITY OF KAUFMAN, WE'VE GOT THE CITY OF MAYBANK, WE HAVE KIM AND TERRELL ARE ALL GIVING US A GOOD FAITH LI INTENT THAT THEY'RE GONNA PARTICIPATE.
I THINK WHEN I READ 'EM ALL, THAT'S, THAT'S THE, WHAT I READ FROM THOSE LETTERS.
THEY'RE, THE LANGUAGE IS DIFFERENT IN EVERY LETTER FOR SURE.
AND I CAN CERTAINLY ASCERTAIN THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN WE WILL PARTICIPATE AND PAY OUR SHARE BETWEEN THAT AND WE SUPPORT IT AND THE CONCEPT AND LOOKING AT OPTIONS, WE GO THROUGH LETTER BY LETTER.
I LIKE SAY COFFMAN IS THE NEXT LETTER.
BUT WE HAD, WE HAD THE, WE HAD THE CITY MANAGER HERE WHO, WHO TOLD US WHAT HIS INTENT WAS.
I KNOW I'M CLEAR WITH KAUFMAN.
THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT IT SAYS TO PARTICIPATE IN THE COUNTYWIDE JOINT DISPATCH CENTER ON THE TERMS OFFERED BY THE COUNTY.
THAT'S CLEAR TO ME THAT THEY WILL PARTICIPATE AND PAY THEIR PORTION.
IS THAT CLEAR? AM I RE IT'S VERY CLEAR.
AND ALSO I HEARD HIM SPEAK FROM THE PODIUM, UH, AND KIM'S VERY CLEAR.
YEAH, KEMP IS VERY, WE HAVE KAMAN AND KEMP.
THEY'RE, THEY'RE WILLING TO PARTICIPATE AND PUT IT IN WRITING.
UH, COMBINE ALSO CITY OF MAYBANK.
I MEAN THAT'S, THAT'S PRETTY CLEAR.
I SUBMIT THIS LETTER OF INTENT TO NOTIFY CAMAN COUNTY.
BUT THE CITY OF MAYBANK AGREES TO PARTICIPATE FOR COMBINED PUBLIC SAFETY DISPATCHING SERVICES UNDER THE CONDITION THAT CAMAN COUNTY CONSIDER REVISING THE CITY OF MAYBANKS PROJECTED OBLIGATIONS.
AND THEN THE CITY OF RELL IS CLEAR.
OH REALLY? I TAKE, IT'S PRETTY CLEAR.
THIS LETTER WILL SERVE THE SUPPORT.
WE CALL FROM THE COUNTY COMMISSIONER'S CONCEPT.
AGAIN, SUPPORTING THE CONCEPT.
THEY'RE ALL SUPPORTING THE, I CAN CONFIRM THAT THE CITY OF TERRELL WANTS TO JOIN THE COUNTY'S PROPOSED 9 1 1 DISPATCH PARTNERSHIP.
SO BASED ON THAT, I BELIEVE THAT THAT IS AN AFFIRMATION.
I BELIEVE THEY'RE ALL AFFIRMATIONS.
I IF THERE'S ANY THAT'S A LITTLE, UH, CONFUSING MIGHT BE CRANDALL.
BUT WHEN YOU HAVE ALL OF THESE LETTERS THAT ARE AFFIRMATIVE, THERE'S NOT ANY, THERE'S NOT ANY NAY HERE.
YOU WOULD CONSIDER THAT LAST SENTENCE.
OUR EXPECTATIONS IS TO BE INCLUDED IN DISCUSSIONS AND DECISIONS ABOUT THE GOVERNOR, PROFESSIONAL STANDARDS OF ACCOUNTABILITY OF SUCH A PARTNERSHIP.
CONSIDER THAT AFFIRMATIVE, THAT THEY WILL PARTICIPATE.
I RECEIVED A TEXT FROM MAYOR RICHARDS.
THEY CHOSE NOT TO BE HERE THIS MORNING BECAUSE HE SAID MY LETTER IS EXPLICITLY CLEAR.
WE SUPPORT THE CONCEPT THEY HAVE FROM THE VERY BEGINNING.
THEY HAD QUESTIONS, BUT HE DIDN'T THINK WOULD BE NECESSARY TO COME AND I GUESS TESTIFY THAT HIS LETTER IS, IS CORRECT, IS WHAT TO TESTIFY.
THAT WHAT HE WROTE IS CORRECT.
HE TOLD ME HE FELT LIKE HE WAS CLEARING HIS LETTER TO PARTICIPATE.
WELL, IF OUR DA ASSURES ME THAT EVERY ONE OF THESE CITIES IS GONNA PARTICIPATE, WELL, BASED ON THE LETTERS, IF SOMEONE CHANGES THEIR MINDS, I I'M, I DON'T KNOW WHAT I'LL DO.
I SAID WE WON'T SERVICE THEM IF THEY DON'T COMPLY.
THERE'S, THERE'S CONSEQUENCES.
MR. YOU HAVE SOME INTERJECT? I DO.
I ADD, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT TRUTH AND BUDGET HERE FOR THE 10 YEARS I'VE BEEN HERE.
UH, I CAN TELL YOU THIS, I'M NOT TRYING TO SPEAK FOR THE CITY, BUT, UH, I HAVE 27 YEARS IN MUNICIPALITY GOVERNMENT.
AND I TELL YOU THIS, THAT CITIES DO HAVE A TRUTH IN BUDGET AND THEIR BUDGET PROCESS STARTS ABOUT APRIL, MAY.
THESE FOLKS CAN'T TELL YOU WHAT THEY'RE GONNA PAY UNTIL THEY GO THROUGH THE BUDGET SIDE.
I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT, LIKE YOU MENTIONED EARLIER, COMMISSIONER, THAT ALLOW THEM TO GO THROUGH THEIR BUDGET PROCESS.
WE GET THIS THING GOING THEN IF THEY DON'T WANT TO PARTICIPATE OR COMMIT, THEN THEY'RE NOT PART OF THE BILL.
YOU CANNOT ASK EACH PEOPLE, THE CITY CANNOT GIVE YOU NUMBER.
THEY'RE HAPPY TO THEIR BUDDY HERE.
WE'RE NOT GONNA HAVE A SYSTEM BEFORE BUDGET END.
IT'LL GIVE THEM, AND THAT'S MY, THAT'S MY REASON FOR
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THIS.I WANT MAKE SURE EVERYBODY'S, YOU KNOW, ON THE SAME PAGE THAT THEY NEED TO ALIGN THEIR BUDGET IF THEY'RE GONNA PARTICIPATE.
AND THAT'S WHY I ASKED FOR THE LETTERS.
SO, BUT I THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA AND NOW WE HAVE THEM.
AND I THINK FOR THE MOST, WHEN YOU READ IN THAT THOSE ARE AFFIRMATIVE LETTERS.
BUT JACK, BECAUSE LIKE YOU SAID, HE'S NOT, HE CAN'T SPEAK FOR EVERY CITY AND THEY'RE IN THE MIDDLE OF THEIR BOOK.
THAT YOU BRING UP A REALLY GOOD POINT BECAUSE WE OPERATE, I UNDERSTAND THERE'S TIME.
THEY'LL START WORKING ON COMING UP NUMBERS IF YOU DON'T THE NUMBERS.
I MEAN IT'S NOT OUR NUMBERS, IT'S THE NUMBERS GENERATED BY SHERIFF'S EMPLOYEE POPULATION.
AND THAT'S BEEN I THINK A CLEAR NUMBER SINCE THE BEGINNING HAS NOT.
BRIAN, WE'VE BEEN RUNNING OFF THE CENSUS.
WE HANDED ALL THAT STUFF THE SAME THING AS THE RED PACKAGE I GAVE YOU.
I'LL ALLOW YOU TO SPEAK AGAIN AS A PARTNER.
I HOPE YOU WOULD LET ME SPEAK TO THE ISSUE I WANNA MAKE TWO POINTS.
ONE IS THE REAL IMPORTANCE OF A LETTER OF INTENT TO PARTICIPATE IN THIS SHOULD COME FROM THE, FROM THE POLICE DEPARTMENTS THAT HAVE THEIR OWN DISPATCHING CAPABILITY.
AND THAT'D BE TURN ON THE CALL STATE.
I THINK THEY'VE BOTH MADE A LETTER OF INTENT PARTICIPATE IN THIS JOINT DISPATCHING EFFORT.
THE REMAINING CITIES THAT DON'T PAY ANYTHING FOR DISPATCHING TODAY, THEY MIGHT BE FISHTAILING A LITTLE BIT ON THIS, BUT THAT YOU HAVE UNILATERAL AUTHORITY TO DETERMINE WHETHER YOU'RE GONNA CHARGE THEM FOR DISPATCHING SERVICES IN THE FUTURE.
SO THAT'S ONE POINT I WANNA MAKE.
I, IF YOU WANT TO CHOOSE NOT TO CHARGE THEM, WE OTHER CITIES MIGHT BE A LITTLE CONCERNED ABOUT THAT, BUT THAT'S YOUR DECISION.
THE SECOND POINT I'D LIKE TO MAKE IS THIS EQUIPMENT THAT YOU'RE CONSIDERING TO PURCHASE TODAY IS COMPLETELY INDEPENDENT OF THE QUESTION OF WHETHER YOU'RE GONNA SET UP A JOINT DISPATCHING CENTER, YOU'RE GOING TO PURCHASE THIS EQUIPMENT.
I'VE HEARD EACH OF YOUR COMMISSIONERS SAY YOU NEED THIS EQUIPMENT.
SO I THINK YOU OUGHT SEPARATE THE TWO ISSUES TO DECIDE WHETHER YOU'RE GOING TO FILE THROUGH WITH FINANCING THE EQUIPMENT WHICH YOU'VE ALREADY AGREED TO PURCHASE, AND THEN PICK UP THE ISSUE OF WHO IS GONNA PARTICIPATE IN THE JOINT DISPATCH CENTER.
AND LIKE SOMEONE SAID EARLIER, MAY BE THE BUDGET TIME.
AS FOR THE CITY OF KAUFMAN, WE ARE IN, WE, I GIVEN YOU A LETTER.
WE KNOW THAT THE 7% OF THE COST FALL ON US, AND WE'LL BE GLAD TO PARTICIPATE.
LET'S GO TO ITEM FOUR AND THAT IS TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON THE ORDER.
AN ORDER AUTHORIZING THE ISSUANCE FROM SALE OF KAUFMAN COUNTY, TEXAS PUBLIC PROPERTY FINANCE, CONTRACTUAL OBLIGATION SERIES 2015 TO FUND ACQUISITION OF EQUIPMENT FOR AND RELATED TO THE COUNTY 9 1 1 AND EOC CENTER IN THE APPROXIMATE AMOUNT, $3,670,000.
AND THAT IS THE EXACT LANGUAGE THAT WAS PRESENTED BY MR. POLLAN, UH, THE ATTORNEY THAT REPRESENTS THE COUNTY.
UH, WHAT IS YOUR PLEASURE ON THIS PARTICULAR ITEM? GENTLEMEN? I GOT ONE MORE COMMENT TO DIRECTLY MR. SNOW FOR ME AND, AND I KNOW EXACTLY WHAT YOU'RE RELATING TO THE TWO DIFFERENT ISSUES.
BUT THE ISSUE FOR US AS UH, BEING RESPONSIBLE FOR THE COUNTY'S MONEY IS, IS NOT THE EQUIPMENT.
WE HAVEN'T PLACED TO PUT IT AND ALL THAT.
THE, THE REASON THAT I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE CITY'S PARTICIPATION IS NOT THE EQUIPMENT AT ALL.
IT'S THE MAINTENANCE, THE INFRASTRUCTURE AND THE RADIOS.
UM, THAT'S CLEARLY A $1.3 MILLION COST FOR THE COUNTY FOR THE NEXT 10 YEARS FOR THE ONGOING MAINTENANCE ON THE, UH, THE RADIOS AND, AND, AND ALL THE SOFTWARE AND ALL THE INFRASTRUCTURE.
SO IT'S NOT LIKE THEY'RE GOING TO BUY THE RADIOS AND THAT'S GOING TO BE THE END OF THE COST.
OUR COST IS GONNA CONTINUE THE CITIES, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE, THEY'RE SET AT WHATEVER RATE THAT THEY'RE SET IN WHATEVER PERCENT.
IT IT'S NOT THAT IT'S A ONE TIME PAYMENT, IT'S DONE AND IT'S OVER AND IT'S NOT, IT'S AN ONGOING COST AND THE CITY'S PARTICIPATION WILL HELP OFFSET THAT.
AND THAT'S, THAT'S MY CONCERN THAT WE SPEND THIS MONEY, THE CITY DON'T PARTICIPATE WITH DISPATCH FORM ANYWAY.
AND THEN OUR CALL FOR THE COUNTY GOES UP ALMOST A MILLION AND A HALF DOLLAR.
AND THAT'S, THAT'S MY ONLY CONCERN ABOUT THAT.
BUT THE REASON THAT THE BENEFIT FOR THE CITY TRYING TO FILL IS THE NUMBERS TO PARTICIPATE BECAUSE PEOPLE WORK ON THE BUSINESS MODEL IS SO MUCH, UH, MORE COST EFFECTIVE TO PARTICIPATE IN A BETTER QUALITY IS IS THE REASON THAT WE PROBABLY ARE GONNA HAVE INSURANCES WHEN YOU SAY MR. SNOW FROM A LOT OF CITIES AS A WAY OF THE FAMILY.
AND THEN, LIKE I SAY, I JUST WANT TO MAKE IT CLEAR THAT, THAT IT'S NOT GONNA BE, YOU KNOW, WE PURCHASED THE EQUIPMENT THAT IT'S DONE, IT'S NOT, EVERYTHING'S UNDER WARRANTY FOR ONE YEAR.
HALF THE STUFF IS UNDER WARRANTY FOR TWO YEARS AND THEN, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A YEARLY PAYMENT ANYWHERE FROM $457,000 TO $631,000 IN THE 10TH YEAR.
SO THAT'S THE ONGOING COST OF THE COUNTY AND THAT'S THE, THE PART THAT THE SEEDS ARE GONNA CONTRIBUTE IS NOT EVEN GONNA COVER THAT.
SO THAT, THAT'S MY WHOLE POINT ON THE PARTICIPANTS THAT WE DON'T SPEND THREE AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS AND THEN WE CONTINUE TO SPEND MONEY ON A YEARLY BASIS
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BECAUSE THIS WAS STARTED AS A COST SAVING, LIFE SAVING PROGRAM.EFFICIENCY, COST EFFECTIVE, AND SAVING.
SO WITH THAT, I MAKE THE MOTION TO PASS ITEM FOUR.
WE HAVE A MOTION FOR COMMISSIONER ZA TO PROVE ITEM NUMBER FOUR.
NO, I, I, I WOULD, I WOULD VERY MUCH LIKE TO SAY THAT THE REASON I'M THINKING THIS BECAUSE WE DID WHAT I ASKED THE VERY FIRST TIME IS THE DO AWAY WITH THE TAX TAX DEGREE.
I WANTED IT TO A CERTIFICATE OF OBLIGATION FOR THE MONEY THAT WE RECEIVED FROM AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GONNA PAY FOR.
OKAY, WE'LL HAVE A MOTION SECONDED BY, UH, COMMISSIONER, UH, PHILLIPS, DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER COMMENTS BEFORE WE VOTE? I'LL ASK FOR IF YOU'LL RAISE YOUR HANDS.
A THOSE BOTH MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
ITEM NUMBER FIVE, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ADVERTISING FOR BIDS, UH, FOR A LEASE PURCHASE AGREEMENT FOR THE ACQUISITION OF EQUIPMENT FOR AND RELATED TO THE COUNTY 9 1 1 EO CENTER AND THE APPROXIMATE AMOUNT OF, UH, $3,670,000.
I'D ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO TABLE THAT I MAKE A MOTION TO THAT COMMISSIONER, UH, PHILLIPS, UH, MAKES THAT MOTION TO HAVE SECOND.
SECOND, MR. SHANE SECOND MOTION.
A ITEM NUMBER SIX, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ENTERING INTO A LEASE PURCHASE AGREEMENT FOR THE, FOR THE ACQUISITION POSITION, ACQUISITION OF EQUIPMENT FOR AND RELATED TO THE COUNTY 9 1 1 EOC CENTER AND THE APPROXIMATE AMOUNT OF 3,600,000.
I'D ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO TABLE THAT AS WELL.
COMMISSIONER, UH, ALLEN DO YOU MAKE THE MOTION COMMISSIONER ACCEPT MOTION? ITEM NUMBER SEVEN IS TO CONSIDER AN ACTION ON RESOLUTION EXPRESSING INTENT TO FINANCE EXPENDITURES TO BE INCURRED BY CALL FROM COUNTY.
UH, MR. POLLEN, IF YOU WOULD, TO COME BACK UP AND EXPLAIN A LITTLE BIT THROUGH THIS BECAUSE WE DO HAVE AN OUTSTANDING INVOICE FROM, UH, HARRIS COMMUNICATIONS THAT NEEDS TO BE PAID.
AND, UH, I BELIEVE THIS RESOLUTION, UH, WILL ALLOW US TO DO THAT AND THEN REIMBURSE THE COUNTY.
YES, THIS IS A REIMBURSEMENT RESOLUTION UNDER THE LAW TO PAY YOURSELF BACK FROM OBLIGATIONS.
THE IRS HAS A PROVISION, A SIMILAR STATE LAW PROVISION THAT IF YOU PASS THE RESOLUTION, ANYTHING THAT WOULD GO BACK 60 DAYS, ANYTHING THAT YOU WOULD SPEND MONEY FOR, IF YOU'VE GOT A OBLIGATION'S DUE, IT'S GONNA TAKE AT LEAST 10 WORKING DAYS TO GET THIS ATTORNEY GENERAL'S OFFICE PASSING THIS RESOLUTION.
YOU, ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS RESOLUTION AND THE PURPOSE OF IT? ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. POLL? NOT A ALLOWED OF ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO, UH, UH, TO APPROVE.
UH, COMMISSIONER SHANE MAKES ACCEPT MOTION.
THOSE OPPOSED ON ITEM NINE 10? UH, I THINK WE COULD MAYBE, UH, AGREE PERHAPS TO TABLE BOTH OF THOSE, UH, MR. PHILLIPS, YOU PUT THOSE ON THERE? WOULD THAT BE OKAY? OKAY.
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS TO TABLE.
CAN WE SKIP NUMBER EIGHT? OKAY.
ALRIGHT, SO, UH, SKIP NUMBER EIGHT.
UH, HOW ABOUT COMBINING 8, 9, 10? YEAH.
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER, UH, PHILLIPS TO TABLE THOSE.
COMMISSIONER ALLEN SECOND MOTION.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN SAY AYE.
THOSE ITEM NUMBER 11, SEAN MAYFIELD TO DISCUSS AND, UH, PRESENT HIS PROFILE IN YOUR, I THINK YOU HAVE A COPY.
THINK YOU SENT US SOME INFORMATION.
I BELIEVE ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF, UH, THE CONSTABLE, DR. GOOD CLEAN REPORT? I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE REPORT FROM THE CONSTABLE MOTION.
COMMISSIONER ALLEN MAKES THAT MOTION.
ITEM NUMBER 12, UH, PAM CARTER.
PAM, IF YOU ARE HERE, YOU'VE BEEN WORKING ON CATS I THINK AND, UH, MAYBE HAVE US A LITTLE BETTER DEAL THAN WHAT WE'VE BEEN EXPERIENCING IN THE PAST.
AND I BELIEVE SHE HAS SOME INFORMATION THAT SHE WILL, UH, PASS OUT TO EACH OF US.
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ON THE ANIMALS THAT PICKED UP ONE YEAR PERIOD AND THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT WE SPENT.PAM AND I HAVE WORKED TOGETHER ON THIS CONTRACT FOR A FEW MONTHS NOW.
UM, PAM'S DONE AN EXCELLENT JOB AND WE'RE HAPPY TO BRING THIS TO YOU GUYS.
UH, LYNN ACKMAN, SHE
SHE GETS BACK TO US ALL THE TIME.
UM, SHE STARTED HER NON-PROFIT ABOUT TWO MONTHS AGO.
SHE'S DONE THE ENTIRE PROCESS FROM COMPLETING THE 5 0 1 3 UM, OBLIGATIONS IN HER STATE LAW AND THEN AS WELL AS THE FEDERAL LAW.
UM, SHE HAS, UH, COME DOWN ON THE PRICE FOR PER CAT.
I KNOW YOU GUYS REMEMBER THE DILEMMA, THE TERM OF JANUARY WHERE THE PRICE WAS A HUNDRED DOLLARS PER CAT THAT WAS GOING TO TAKEN IN.
UM, SHE HAS OFFERED OR WE HAVE OFFERED AND SHE'S ACCEPTED $65.
SO THAT'S A SIGNIFICANT DECREASE THAT SHOULD HELP.
AND THEN AS WELL AS, UM, WE NEGOTIATED THE KITTEN PRICE DOWN TO 15 VERSUS A HUNDRED DOLLARS PER KITTEN, WHICH IS WHAT WE'RE GETTING.
UM, SO WE'RE VERY EXCITED AND HAPPY TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS.
AND PAM HAS PUT TOGETHER AN INFORMATIONAL, UH, PACKET ON PROJECTIONS ON HOW MUCH THAT WILL SAVE THE COUNTY.
AND IF YOU GUYS HAVE ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS ABOUT THE CONTRACT, I CAN'T TELL YOU THAT I THINK I KNOW I HAVE NOTHING TO COPY HERE.
I THINK YOU GUYS HAVE ONE TWO IN YOUR PACKET.
UM, AND SHE DID PROVIDE US WITH A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS, UH, GENERAL LIABILITY POLICY TO GO INSURANCE POLICY TO GO WITH YOUR NONPROFIT FUND.
AND THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WE HAD ASKED HER TO DO.
SHE ALREADY IN COMPLIANCE WITH THAT.
UM, AND IF YOU ARE THE COURT IS IN AGREEMENT WITH THE CONTRACT, UM, THEN IT WOULD START TODAY.
WHAT ABOUT HOURS OF OPERATION THEY'RE CLOSE TO.
AND OUR OFFICERS DON'T GET THAT WAY UNTIL ALMOST TWO OR THREE.
THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE AT THE BY THREE 30.
IT'S VERY HARD ON THEM TO GET DOWN CALL IF SOMETHING HAPPENS.
I ASKED THAT SHE HAS SET UP AT SO SHE'S FAMILIAR.
PEOPLE, THE ANIMALS ARE A GREAT JOB.
ALRIGHT, ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? APPRECIATE IT.
SAM AND REBECCA WORKING THIS OUT.
ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? NOT I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE.
WHAT DO YOU THINK CEDAR CREEK IS DOING? WHAT'S GONNA BE THEY KNOW, THEY KNOW SHE'S ALREADY VISITED WITH THAT.
SHE WAS GOING INTO THE
SHE'S BEEN RUNNING THEIR PROGRAM.
SO NOW SHE'LL JUST BE ABLE TO, EVERY ANIMAL GETS FIXED AND SHE'LL BE ABLE TO GET THE MONEY BACK.
WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER SHANE, DO WE HAVE A SECOND? COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS SECOND MOTION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH WORKING ON THIS.
COMMISSIONER BRA REQUESTED THAT WE DISCUSSED AND CONSIDERED A REQUEST FOR THE KATON COUNTY SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT TO PROVIDE A DETAILED ZONE SAFETY PROGRAM, YEAR TO DATE REPORT AND, UH, REQUEST FOR DETAILED MONTHLY UPDATES.
I BELIEVE WE HAVE, UH, SOME INFORMATION HERE, UH, ALONG WITH A POWERPOINT PRESENTATION.
UH, CHIEF EVANS WILL BE MAKING THIS PRESENTATION.
DO PRESENTATION POWER ONE FIRST.
UH, MY NAME IS ROD SI WORK SHERIFF ROD WILL BE SURE TO SPEAK UP.
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UH, WORKED WITH THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE AND HAVE BEEN FOR THE LAST, UH, ONE OR 20 YEARS, YEARS.I HAVE BEEN A PART OF MANY PROJECTS WITH THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE OVER THE LAST YEARS, UH, MYSELF AS WELL AS OTHERS AT THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE.
I BELIEVE IN THIS PROGRAM, WE BELIEVE IS A GOOD FIT.
UH, SHERIFF'S OFFICE HAS ALWAYS BEEN ABOUT PROVIDING SAFETY AND A GOOD PUBLIC SERVICE FOR COUNTY.
THIS SCHOOL IS ON PROGRAM WORKS AND I BELIEVE
THERE'S FIVE MULTIPLE SPEED APP ENFORCEMENT UNITS.
ACTUALLY WE HAVE, UH, THREE NOW.
THE REASON THAT IS, IS, UH, BECAUSE OF SOME OF THE AREAS WHERE THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS ARE, WE ARE UNABLE TO, UH, EMPLOY THE VANS, UH, LEGALLY OR SAFELY.
SO WE GOT THE COMPANY A TS TOLD THEM WHAT OUR PROBLEM WAS.
UH, WE EXPLAINED TO THEM THAT THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE IS GONNA BE INVOLVED WITH THIS GONNA BE COUNTY PROJECT.
WE WANTED ABLE UTILIZE THEM AND ALL THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS THROUGHOUT THE CAMPUS.
SO THEY GOT WHAT THEY CALL TOWERS BACK HERE ON THE BACK.
UH, WE HAVE PLATFORM PRESENTATION WHERE ABOUT THE SAME WAY AS THE, UH, DO SHEET DOLLARS AND MONITORS OF SPEEDS FOR THE ZONE.
THIS LIST HERE IS THE ONES THAT ARE CURRENTLY VERY ACTIVE ON WORKING AND, UH, WE'RE HOPING TO GO THIS LONGER AND USE ALL OF THE SCHOOL ZONES IN THE DISTRICT.
IF YOU'LL NOTICE HERE, THESE ARE THE, UH, VIOLATIONS THAT COME IN.
THE WARNING PERIOD WAS FROM OCTOBER 21ST OR NOVEMBER THE 21ST.
WE ACTUALLY HAD 669 VIOLATIONS.
SO THAT'S 669 VEHICLES THAT SP THROUGH A SCHOOL GOING IN THAT 30 DAYS.
IS THAT PERIOD OF SCHOOL TIME? YES.
YELLOW ICE FLASH IN THE DROP OFF OF THE PICK TIME? YES.
IF YOU GO DOWN TO DECEMBER, IT DROPPED DOWN AND YOU'LL SEE THERE, AND SOME OF THE REASON THAT IT DROPPED DOWN IS BECAUSE OF, UH, SCHOOL HOLIDAYS,
BUT STILL THAT IS A, A DRASTIC REDUCTION THERE FROM 669 WENT UP IN TWO IN JANUARY TO 230 BACK DOWN IN FEBRUARY TO 81.
IF YOU HAD THOSE THREE MONTHS UP, THAT'S 463 VIOLATIONS IN THE THREE MONTH PERIOD.
THAT'S 206 LESS THAN WE ACTUALLY HAD THE FIRST 30 DAYS THAT THOSE WENT OUT AND WE DID THE MORNING PERIOD.
WE HAD PEOPLE THAT CALLED IN, THEY DIDN'T HAVE COMPLAINTS, WAS THEY HAD WHAT I CALLED CONCERNS.
THEY SAID OUT WAS FLASHING, UH, DURING THE MIDDLE OF THE AFTERNOON WHEN THE SCREW ZONE WOULDN'T ACTUALLY IN EFFECT, WE EXPLAINED THEM.
THE SITUATION WAS THAT YOU'LL NOT BE RECEIVING A CITATION.
THE ONLY TIME THE CITATION WAS GOING OUT IS BETWEEN THE, UH, PICKUP AND DROP OFF TIME.
SO THE SCREW ZONE FROM FEBRUARY THE 28TH IS 22,450.
NOW THAT DOES NOT INCLUDE THE, UH, ATS FEES.
THIS IS JUST ONE OF THE EXAMPLES THAT, UH, WHEN YOU GET YOUR CITATION IN THE MAIL, UH, THIS HAVE THIS PICTURE RIGHT HERE.
IT TELLS YOU WHERE YOU'RE AT, YOUR SPEED YOU WAS TRAVELING, UH, WHAT THE POSTED SPEED LIMIT TIME WAS.
UM, AND THIS THERE 44 AND ACTUALLY 30 MILES.
MILES ZONE WAS JUST ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF THAT.
THIS PERSON WAS TRAVELING 50 MILES AN HOUR AND 30 MILES AN HOUR DURING THE SCHOOL.
THEIR EMPLOYEE AT 9:56 AM AT THAT.
THAT'S IN BETWEEN THE DROP OFF TIMES JUST MONITORING THE TRAFFIC.
AND YOU HAVE THESE PEOPLE WHO 54 MILES AN HOUR MILES, ARIZONA CAMP HIGH SCHOOL, 75 MILES AN HOUR, 55 MILES AN HOUR, TAKE SCHOOL BUS STOP ON CAMERA SYSTEM.
WE, UH, WE INSTALLED TWO, TWO CAMERAS.
UH, WE INSTALLED ON TWO BUSES, UH, LAST MONTH.
COFFMAN AND THE WILLS POINT AREA, UH, SCHOOL DISTRICT, UH, THOSE OF Y'ALL KNOW THAT WHILE THE WILL POINT SCHOOL DISTRICT COMES DOWN INTO COFFMAN COUNTY FOR ELMO,
AND WE ACTUALLY HAD THREE INCIDENTS ON MARCH THE SECOND.
THE DAY WE WENT LIVE, ONE OF THOSE, UH, TWO VEHICLES ACTUALLY PASSED THE STOP SCHOOL BUS.
AND ON BOTH, UH, INSTANCES, IT WAS RAINING THAT DAY TO JUST, UH, MAKE MORE HAZARD THAN THE STOP THE DRIVERS CAPTURED ON THE VIDEO.
RUN THE STOP ARM FACING A $350 FINE.
UH, THESE VIOLATIONS COME TO THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE, LIKE THE SCHOOL ZONE VIOLATIONS.
UH, THE DEPUTIES REVIEW 'EM AND LOOK AT 'EM, MAKE SURE EVERYTHING'S CHECKED OUT RIGHT WHEN THEY SEND IT OFF.
WE DID A PRESS RELEASE IN FEBRUARY ABOUT THE, UH, THE CAMERA SYSTEM AND WE ARE FIXING TO DO ANOTHER, UH, THE, THE LIVESTOCK SHOWS COMING AT THE END OF MARCH.
SO WE'RE GONNA HAVE THIS, UH, OUR, UH, SCHOOLS ON THE VEHICLES PARKED OUT THERE WITH DEPUTIES ON THE SCENE TO ASK ANY QUESTIONS
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ANYBODY HAVE.EVERYBODY IN THE COUNTY COMES THROUGH THE
TRY TO EDUCATE MOST PEOPLE AS WE CAN.
I JUST HEARD THIS LAST FRIDAY.
SOME OF Y'ALL MAY HAVE ALREADY HEARD THIS.
UH, OVER IN HUNT COUNTY, IN GREENVILLE, UH, WARREN PASSES A STOP SCHOOL BUS, LOOSE CONTROL STRIKING OVER PUT
SO THIS PROBABLY TERRITORY WE DON'T ANY QUESTIONS? YES.
SO, SO THREE MONTHS WE'VE BROUGHT IN $22,004.
AND YOU SAID THIS DID INCLUDE SOME FEES FROM THAT'S NOT OUR IT DOES NOT, DOES NOT INCLUDE THE FEES.
BEFORE WE GET, BEFORE WE GET STARTED IN THE FINANCE AND THE MONEY, THAT'S NOT WHAT I, SAFETY.
UH, THERE'S A VIDEO OF THE A S SENT WHERE IT WAS UP.
SO WE ARE THESE OR TRANSPORT SPEED STATION.
HOW MANY? WE'LL WE HAVE UTILIZE THOSE IN THE SCHOOL DISTRICT WHERE WE CANNOT PARK ILLEGAL OR SAFE PARK THE ADVANCE.
WHAT'S THAT GONNA COST? THESE COST WE PUT, DO YOU HAVE ANY STATISTICS ON THE MAN HOUR EXPENSE CARS OUT? WELL, WE HAVE TWO DEPUTIES ARE INVOLVED.
WE'RE PAYING THEM, UH, 20 HOURS A DAY OUT WORKING.
FIRST THING THEY DO IS PUT 'EM OUT IN THE MORNING, THE THING THEY DO.
SO THAT'S TWO DEPUTIES, TWO HOURS A DAY, ROUGHLY TWO HOURS IN THE MORNING, TWO MAN HOURS A MORNING AND TWO MAN HOURS IN AFTERNOON.
NO, IT TAKES PROBABLY AN HOUR TO PUT OUT THREE HOUR.
IT TAKES ABOUT 10 MINUTES TO PUT OUT THE CAR.
ACTUALLY, AN I PUT THE CAR OUT MYSELF WHEN 10 MINUTES OFFICE, THE OFFICE, IT'S SAFE TO SAY IT TAKES TWO MANY HOURS FOR, FOR A VEHICLE.
UH, WELL I BELIEVE MS. HOPPERS HERE WITH A S YOU HAVE MAYBE SOME VIDEO THAT WERE MADE RECENTLY MADE JUST THE LAST FEW WEEKS HERE.
AND THIS PARTICULAR VIDEO CLIP THAT WE HAVE ACTUALLY TOOK PLACE THE FIRST DAY WE RESIDE WITH THE CROSSING GUARD PROGRAM.
KEEP IN MIND THAT WE'RE STILL PROCESSING THE FOOTAGE ON OUR END AND THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT WILL BE TRAINED THIS ON HOW TO ISSUE THESE, THESE VIOLATIONS THEMSELVES.
BUT I CAN SHOW YOU THE, AND THIS IS A VERY SHORT CLIP.
SO AGAIN, THESE CAME FROM ONE BUS IN YOUR KAUFMAN ISD UM, AREA.
I WOULD SAY THAT JUST ONE MORE TIME 'CAUSE YOU'LL BE ABLE TO SEE THAT THESE, THESE BUSES ARE CLEARLY STOPPED.
THE STOP ALARMS ARE CLEARLY EXTENDED AND THESE FOLKS ARE JUST IGNORING THAT.
IS THAT ON 34? YES, THAT'S WHAT I
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WE HAVE NOT COLLECTED THE OTHER FOOTAGE YET OF THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE WILL BE REVIEW THOSE WITHIN THE NEXT WEEK OR SO.
ARE ANY OF THOSE THREE IN THE AUDIENCE TODAY? IF SO, RAISE YOUR HAND.
AND THOSE WERE IS ISSUED CITATIONS, NOT WARNING.
THEY'LL BE, THEY'LL BE ISSUED, THEY ISSUED PERIOD ANNOUNCEMENT BACK IN OCTOBER AND WE'VE, I THINK SEVERAL OF THE OTHER DISTRICTS ARE PLANNING ON JOINING.
THEY'VE JUST NOT, THEY GOT AROUND TO YET.
MY UNDERSTANDING, I'M NOT OUT RESPONSIBILITY THIS, IT'S SOMETHING THAT OBVIOUSLY HAS TO DO EVERY SCHOOL DISTRICT A PROGRAM, NOT LETTING CHILDREN CROSS BOARD ANYMORE, GO OUT THE KIDS OUT ONE SIDE OF YOU'VE ACTUALLY HAD INSTANCES WHERE PEOPLE HAVE PASSED THE BUS ON THE RIGHT.
SO THE THREE MONTHS THEY BEEN OPERATION ABOUT THREE MONTHS.
DO YOU HAVE ANY CALCULATIONS? WE GOT AN ESTIMATE.
OUR, OUR PORTION OF THAT FINE MONEY IS 13 BASED ON YOUR, OUR PORTION IS 60% OF THAT IS NOT, NO, I THINK IT'S 60 40 RIGHT NOW.
IT WORKS TO BE 50 50 GOES ATS PORTION GOES, THAT WOULDN'T BE OUR $2 TICKET FOR TICKET.
THAT, THAT IS GONNA BE MY NEXT QUESTION ON THE, THE, UH, THE WARNING ISSUE.
HE DOESN'T, I DON'T NEED THE, HE DOESN'T CAN YOU TEST TO THAT? I'M SORRY, WHAT WAS THE QUESTION? HOW MUCH MONEY THE COUNTY OWES WARNING CITATIONS.
SO THE WARNINGS THEMSELVES, THERE'S A FLAT FEE FOR EACH UNIT TWO, JUST $2,900 PER UNIT FOR JUST A, FOR PLUS $2 PLEASE.
UM, I SENT, MR. OLDFIELD HAS A INVOICE.
OUR ACCOUNT TEAM MAY I, COMMISSIONER, MAY I PLEASE? YES, I KNOW.
THANK YOU FOR YOU'RE VERY WELCOME.
SO OUR ACCOUNTING TEAM HAS FINALIZED INVOICES ON FRIDAY INVOICE, WE GET THESE EVERY 30 DAYS.
SO THE, THE WAY THAT THE, AS FAR AS THE INVOICES ARE CONCERNED, OUR ACCOUNTING TEAM WILL, WILL SEND THOSE ONCE A MONTH AND IT'S USUALLY BEFORE THE 15TH EACH MONTH.
AND BECAUSE THE ACTUAL, THE, THE PROGRAM ITSELF IS WHAT WE CONSIDER REVENUE.
WE WILL TAKE THE FEES OUT OF THE FINE THAT ARE COLLECTED AND TRANSFER THE BALANCE INTO THE COUNTY'S, UM, AND ACCOUNT THAT THEY'VE ESTABLISHED.
SO BEGINNING IN APRIL YOU'LL START TO SEE MORE FINES BEING DISTRIBUTED INTO THE ACCOUNT BECAUSE THE WARNING FEES WERE FLAT ONE TIME FEE UP FRONT.
AND THEN NOW THAT WE'RE IN THE LIVE PERIOD, THE UM, AVERAGE FEE WILL BE 40% OR 50 PER FEE IS LATER.
AND THAT'S THE STUDENT CONTRACT.
SO WE, WE'VE NETTED AS A COUNTY 13,000, 73 MONTHS THAT HAS BEEN IN OPERATION.
WE ARE INVOICED HERE FOR $15,883 FOR DURING THE WARNING PERIOD? THAT'S CORRECT.
SO THE FINES THAT YOU COLLECTED THROUGH FEBRUARY 28TH WAS 20 2004 I BELIEVE 50, IS THAT CORRECT? 60% PORTION COMING TO THOUSAND FOUR 70.
THE FIRST FIRST PERSONAL INVOICE FOR THE WARNING PERIOD AND INVOICE FOR THE 40% OF THE CLIENTS.
WELL THAT'S JUST, THAT'S JUST FOR THE WARNING PERIOD.
AND THEN THE, UH, I WANNA SAY IT'S 9,275
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CITATIONS 40 CENTS.WHAT IS NO, THAT'S JUST THE 40% OF THE COLLECTIVE.
SO THE 40 INVOICE, 40% OF THE ACTUAL FINE REVENUE WHICH COMES OUT TO THE NINE RANGE, WHATEVER THAT INVOICE.
SO 84 WE, WE, WE OWE A TS $8,430 PLUS 15,800.
30 CORRECT FOR THAT, FOR THAT WE RECEIVED 13,000.
NOT SURE NUMBER COMING FROM THAT'S 20 2050, CORRECT.
IS THAT RIGHT? SO WEIGHT A TS INVOICE UNIT, THAT'S THE ONLY, UH, PORTION I CAN SPEAK ON IS AGAIN, WE'LL INVOICE YOU FOR THE, THE PERCENTAGE OF THE FINES THAT ARE COLLECTED AND THEN WE'LL TAKE OUR FEES OUT OF THE TRANSFER AND TRANSFER THE FUNDS INTO THE COUNTY.
TO MAKE IT CLEAR, THE COUNTY WILL NOT BE ISSUING ANY CHECK BEYOND THAT.
MEANING THAT IF THERE ARE NOT ENOUGH FUNDS TO COVER, THEN THAT BALANCE WOULD JUST CARRY OVER TO THE NEXT MONTH.
BUT BECAUSE YOU HAVE THE ONE TIME WARNING PERIOD FEE, THAT'S GONNA BE PROBABLY YOUR LARGEST FEE UPFRONT.
AND THEN AFTER THAT IT'LL BE THE EITHER $50 PER K OR 40%, WHICHEVER GREATER.
SO THE MONTHLY REVENUE WILL VARY.
BUT BECAUSE THE PROGRAM WAS JUST IMPLEMENTED AND BECAUSE WE HAVE HOLIDAY BREAK, THAT'S WHY YOU'LL SEE THE, THE RIGHT NOW THE 20 AGAIN, THAT'S FROM FEBRUARY.
MR. OLDFIELD, OR CAN YOU EXPLAIN THIS? MAYBE I'M NOT SURE HOW THE, THE UH, PROGRAM IS A LITTLE CONFUSING WITH THE, THE, CAN YOU, CAN YOU TELL US HOW FAR WE'RE IN A HOLE AT THIS POINT? AT THIS PROGRAM? WELL THE, THE FIRST INVOICE, THE FIRST INVOICE, WHICH IS INVOICE NUMBER 1 8 9 4 9 APPEARS THE INVOICE FOR 1338 CITATIONS THAT COULD HAVE BEEN ISSUED BUT WARRANT BECAUSE IT WAS THE GRACE PERIOD AND THEN THE COUNTY IS BEING BILLED FOR THE 20 MONTH PER UNIT FEE.
THEN INVOICE NUMBER ONE 18 OR 18 9 50 IS FOR FEBRUARY ISSUING 9,275 CITATIONS AT 40 CENTS A CITATION.
10,600 CITATIONS IN JANUARY AND 1200 CITATIONS IN DECEMBER ALL AT 40 CENTS.
SO IT LOOKS LIKE THEY'RE ASKING US TO PAY THE FOUR 30.
THE THING THAT I DON'T SEE, AND I THINK IT'S A FOLLOW UP QUESTION, IS WILL WE RECEIVE AN INVOICE SIMILAR TO 18 949 FOR, ARE SUCCEEDING MONTHS? I DON'T DUNNO.
I THINK THE GRACE PERIOD WAS FROM DECEMBER, FROM OCTOBER 21ST.
JUDGE, DO YOU REMEMBER THE GRACE PERIOD? I DON'T.
SO YOU'LL SEE ON THE INVOICES PROGRAM REVENUE.
SO THIS IS THE ACTUAL REVENUE AMOUNT COLLECTED.
WE'RE LOOKING AT, UH, INVOICE 18, 9 50.
YOU SEE WHERE IT SAYS PROGRAM REVENUE EVERY 275%, 30% IS THE 37.
THESE ARE DOLLARS ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE OVER HERE, NOT QUANTITATIVE CITATION.
THAT'S WHERE IT SHOWS, IT SAYS, IT SAYS CITATION, BUT IT'S ACTUALLY GROSS REVENUE.
AND, AND THIS I GUESS TOTALS THE 22 400 THAT'S ON YOUR LIST.
95 AND 12 THAT YOU, IT SHOULD 'CAUSE THE, THE, WHAT YOU PRINTED OUT INCLUDED A COLLECTION AT
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LEAST ONE COLLECTION FROM MARCH OF 20 15, 20 15.SO THE 2240 THAT WAS ON THE SLIDE ISN'T GONNA RECONCILE TO THIS BECAUSE IT HAS A MARCH TRANSACTION.
I WOULD LIKE TO CONCLUDE THIS DISCUSSION AS SOON AS WE CAN AND IF THERE'S ISSUES ABOUT THE BILLING, WE CAN GET THOSE CLEARED UP.
THAT'S REALLY NOT ON THE AGENDA.
UH, BUT UH, BUT PERHAPS, UH, WITH COMMISSIONER ZALE, I THINK THE AUDITOR SHOULD BE INVOLVED IN THIS.
SHE THE ONE THAT WILL BE AUDITING THE BILLS AND PAYING THE BILLS AND UH, CERTAINLY IF THE TREASURER WANTS TO BE INVOLVED IN THAT CAN ACTUALLY, THIS IS ON AGENDA, PROVIDE A DETAILED SAFETY DETAILED MONTHLY UPDATES.
IT'S AN AGENDA ITEM TO DO THAT.
WE WENT AHEAD AND HAVE THIS OTHER, UH, HERE EARLY COMMISSIONER JUST SO YOU CAN SEE IT.
I PERSONALLY DON'T THINK WE OUGHT TO DIRECT THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE TO UH, UH, DO A MONTHLY INVOICE OR A MONTHLY REPORT.
WE DO IT FOR EVERY OTHER AGENCY THAT WE, UH, REGULATE HERE AT THE COMMISSIONER COURT.
ONE TAX ACCESSORY COURT PRESENTS ONE, ANYTHING TO DO WITH REVENUE.
I HAVE NO PROBLEM DOING A REPORT YET.
THEY'LL GIVE US A PARAMETER, YOU KNOW, ABOUT WHERE WE, WHAT THEY WANT AND DRAW IT UP AND WE CAN RATHER GET THAT INFORMATION.
UH, WE CAN GOS IF WE NEED TO GENERATE THAT SOME WAY.
BUT GOING THROUGH BILL A BAIL HERE, I DON'T THINK THIS IS APPROPRIATE PLACE TO DO THAT, BUT IF Y'ALL CAN DECIDE, YOU KNOW, WHAT AROUND YOU WANT THAT, THEN WE'LL, WE'LL BE GLAD TO, TO, UH, OKAY.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON, I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE UH, WE HAVE A, UH, DETAILED MONTHLY REPORT FOR THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT ON THE A TS SYSTEM SHOWING THE, UH, MAN HOURS EXPENDED FOR THE PROGRAM, THE AMOUNT OF TICKETS ISSUED AND THE AMOUNT OF REVENUE THAT SHOULD BE GENERATED FROM THE TICKETS, SHOULD THEY BE PAID.
AND, UM, MAKE SURE IN THAT WE INCLUDE THE DAILY LOG THAT IS REQUIRED BY A TS ON THE VEHICLE INSPECTION.
UH, MAKE SURE WE'RE COMPLIANT WITH THE CONTRACT ON THE, UM, UH, MAINTENANCE OF THE VEHICLES.
I KNOW WE, I GUESS THIS TRADE, YOU GOT DIFFERENT VEHICLES NOW THAN WE HAVE.
SO THAT WE CAN, AND ONE MORE QUESTION I'VE GOT IS, UM, THIS THE SCHOOL BUS SYSTEM, ARE WE STILL BOUND BY THAT THREE QUARTERS OF A CITATION PER DAY MANDATE OR THAT OR WE WILL BE CHARGED $50? NO, SIR.
IF YOU RECALL OR ARE COMM MEETING WHERE WE HAD OUR GENERAL COUNSEL HERE, HE EXPLAINED THAT THE COSTING OUR
SO THE ACTUAL MINIMUM THAT YOU IN THE CONTRACT NOT APPLY WHAT WE ASKED FROM THE COUNTY TO DO.
AND THAT SPECIFIED IN THE CONTRACT AS WELL AS WHAT WE, WE ALSO AMENDED THE CONTRACT TO THAT 60 REQUIREMENT THAT WE MAKE SURE THAT THE SCHOOL BUS ENFORCEMENT AND THE SCHOOL VANS ARE ENFORCED AT EVERY, UM, FOR EVERY SCHOOL OPERATING THE SCHOOL DAY POSSIBLE, WHETHER DEPEND POSSIBLY.
SO WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT HELD TO THOSE SHORT MONTHS.
BECAUSE YOUR, YOUR SCHOOLS SPEAK PROGRAM IS BACKSTOP TO YOUR, TO YOUR OUR PROGRAM MEANING IT'S ALL ENCOMPASSING BECAUSE YEAH.
MEANING REVENUE WILL COME OUT OF THE, IT'LL, IT'LL BE ALL GENERATED OUT THE SAME, BUT WE'LL BE BILLED IF THE REVENUE FROM THE SCHOOL BUS CAMERAS PLUS THE REVENUE, THE MANDATE FROM THE SCHOOL CAMERAS WITH SCHOOL ZONE CAMERAS.
DON'T MEET YOUR QUOTA OF THE SCHOOL BUS FILE BECAUSE WE'LL BE BILLED TO VOTE AMOUNT.
WE, WE LISTENED AT THE LAST COMMISSIONER COURT MEETING WITH THE CONCERNS AROUND THE COURT REGARDING THAT 60 REQUIREMENT THAT INITIALLY FOUNDED THE COUNTY ON FINANCIAL ASSESSMENTS IF THE COUNTY DID NOT DEPLOY THEM AT THOSE MINIMUM HOURS.
WE AGREE WITH THAT, THAT REQUIREMENT.
OKAY, SO WE'LL, SO THERE'S NO, THERE'S NO MINIMUM NOW PERIOD.
IT'S THE, THE BOTH PROGRAMS ARE ALL ENCOMPASSING TOGETHER.
WHAT WE ASKED IS THAT THE ENFORCEMENT TOOLS THAT ARE PROVIDED TO THE COUNTY BE ENFORCED.
THEY'RE USED TO BE ENFORCED TO THE SCHOOL'S OWN HOURS.
THAT'S THE, THAT'S THE, THAT'S THE ONLY MANDATE.
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US MEETING.YOU PUT THIS FORM MOTION FORM A MOTION THAT WE REQUEST OF THE UPDATE FROM THE SHERIFF DEPARTMENT MONTHLY BASIS.
DO WE HAVE A UH, SECOND OF THAT? FOR THAT MOTION? THIS WILL BE DUE ON THE FIRST DISTRICT COURT MEETING.
WE HAVE A SECOND FROM, UH, MR. PHILLIPS, DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
A OPPOSED WHAT DOES NOT SHOW UP ON THAT REPORT WOULD BE ANY POTENTIAL LIE.
ITEM NUMBER 14, COMMISSIONER ROSA TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER COMMISSIONER'S COURT ORDER STATING THAT ALL CONTRACTS PERTAINING TO THE COUNTY BUSINESS BE SIGNED BY ALL COMMISSIONER, COMMISSIONER, COUNTY JUDGE AND COUNTY CLERK AND COPIES TO BE SUPPLIED TO EACH.
I PUT THAT OVER THERE JUST FOR A SIMPLE REASON THAT USING THAT AS EXAMPLE, UM, THE CONTRACTS WERE CHANGED AFTER WE OKAY.
THE COMMISSION COURT AND WE, I WASN'T AWARE OF IT.
I DUNNO IF THE REST OF THEM WERE AND I THINK IT A GOOD IDEA, IF NOT INDEED IT IS THE LAW IT NOT.
I WOULD LIKE FOR YOU TO, JOHN, LET, I WANT TO TELL YOU, UH, VERY QUICKLY WHY THIS IS A BAD IDEA AND THEN A SUGGESTION THAT I THINK WILL TAKE CARE OF YOUR CONCERN.
UM, AND, AND I'LL THAT WAY FIRST, THE WAY THAT THE PROPOSAL READ, IT SAYS THE COUNTY WOULD SIGN EACH CONTRACT.
UM, MY FIRST POINT WOULD BE THE COUNTY CLERK SIGNING A CONTRACT.
IT'S NOTHING TO IT'S COMPLETE.
MR P FOR COMMISSIONER'S COURT HAS THE AUTHORITY TO CONTRACT WITH THE COUNTY.
SO ASKING THE COUNTY CLERK TO SIGN, IT'S LIKE TO ASK, UH, PURCHASING AGENT SIGN IT OR SOME OTHER PERSON THAT'S NOTHING TO THE CONTRACT.
THE SECOND IS THE REQUEST IS OVER BROUGHT ON ITS FACE.
YOU SAY ALL CONTRACTS, THE COUNTY HAVE TO BE SIGNED.
THERE ARE CERTAIN CONTRACTS THAT CAN BE ENTERED INTO WITHOUT THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT.
THERE'S PUBLIC CONTRACTS THAT THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE CAN SIGN, BUT THE DPS AND SO THOSE WOULD NEED TO BE EXCLUDED.
THIRD POINT I WOULD MAKE IS THERE'S OBVIOUS LOGISTICAL PROBLEMS TO THIS.
IF THERE'S FIVE PEOPLE THAT ARE REQUIRED TO SIGN IT, ANYTIME YOU HAVE A MEETING AND SOMEONE'S NOT HERE OR SOMEONE VOTES AGAINST YOU HAVE THE LOGISTICAL PROBLEM OF OF SIGNING THE CONTRACT TO VOTE AGAINST.
IF YOU THINK ABOUT THAT TOO, SOMEONE COULD SIGN IT IN A PROTEST AND REALIZE, WELL, THERE'S STILL FREE BILLS COURT WHO'S ONE TO AGAINST THE CONCERN, I THINK.
AND, AND, AND, AND MY FINAL POINT IS YOU DON'T KNOW WHERE IT BEGINS AND WHERE IT ENDS.
IN SAYING ALL CONTRACTS, DOES THAT MEAN EVERY TIME THE COUNTY WANTS TO CONTRACT TO BUY SOMETHING, UM, AND NOT KNOWING WHERE IT BEGINS OR ENDS, THAT MEANS THAT SOMEONE CALLS TO BUY SOMETHING FOR A LOGAN BRIDGE DISTRICT OR DA'S OFFICE AND THAT CONTRACT IS SOMEHOW COVERED BY THIS? UM, I FEEL LIKE, AND AND I HAVE A VERY SHORT PROPOSAL THAT I THINK SOLVES THIS PROBLEM.
I THINK THAT THE CONCERN OF THE COMMISSIONER AND PERHAPS SHARED BY OTHERS IS HE WOULD LIKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO READ THOSE, REVIEW THE CONTRACTS BEFORE THEY'RE EXECUTED.
IF SO, AND I WOULD SUGGEST AMENDMENT TO THIS AND TO HAVE FOLLOW ON CONTRACTS TO BE SIGNED BY THE COUNTY, JUDGE SHALL FIRST BE SUBMITTED TO THE MR COURT FOR REVIEW OF CONSIDERATION.
IN FACT, YOU HAVE THAT AND YOU WOULD'VE FROM THIS POINT FORWARD SOMETHING SAYING FOR REVIEW OF CONSIDERATION.
AND HERE CONSIDERATION IS TYPICALLY TAKEN THAT YOU WOULD'VE THE OPPORTUNITY TO BRING IT UP AT AT FUTURE MEETINGS TO DISCUSS IT IN OPEN SESSION.
UH, FOR EXAMPLE, LOCK WALL COUNTY HAS ON THEIR AGENDA A CHECK MARK TO INDICATE WHETHER OR NOT CONTRACTS BEEN REVIEWED BY, UH, THE DA'S OFFICE.
YOU COULD HAVE THE SAME THING, BUT WHAT THE CONCERN THAT YOU HAVE IS, IS THE ABILITY TO REVIEW IT.
I THINK YOU HAVE THAT, BUT I THINK THAT HAVING A COMPLETE COMMISSIONER'S COURT SIGNED INTEREST PRESENTS MORE PROBLEMS THAN IT SOLVES.
AND IT'S ALWAYS PUBLIC WITH WHO VOTED FOR AND AGAINST A PARTICULAR CONTRACT, THE MINUTES.
BUT I THINK THAT EXPEDITES, IT AVOIDS UNCERTAINTY TO HAVE THE COUNTY JUDGE SAY THAT EVERYONE NEEDS TO SIGN IT.
ONLY THREE PEOPLE NEED TO BE HERE FOR A QUORUM OF THE COURT.
SO TECHNICALLY TWO PEOPLE OF THE THREE COULD VOTE FOR A COUNTY CONTRACT.
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HAPPENED.I THINK WE'VE ALWAYS HAD AT LEAST FOUR PEOPLE.
BUT IN ANY EVENT, I DON'T THINK THIS IS A WISE IDEA.
IF THE CONCERN, AND I UNDERSTAND THAT THE ABILITY TO READ IT, I THINK THAT YOU CAN PASS THAT AS A SEPARATE MOTION, WHICH IS TO READ EXHIBITION.
I'D LIKE TO AMEND MY AGENDA ITEM TO READ, UH, DISCUSS CONSIDERED COMMISSIONER'S COURT ORDER STATING THAT ALL CONTRACTS THAT MUST BE PASSED BY COMMISSIONER'S COURT BE SIGNED BY A QUORUM OF THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT COUNTY JUDGE AND THE COUNTY CLERK PRESENTED A COPY AND ALL COPIES BE SUPPLIED TO YOU BECAUSE ANYTHING PASSED THE COMMISSIONER COURT, THE COUNTY CLERK HAS TO REGISTER ANYWAY, RIGHT.
FOR PUBLIC RECORD AS SHE SIGNED TO STAMP.
IS THAT NOT TRUE? RECEIVED THEM FOR I RECEIVED.
ISN'T IT A MANDATE THAT YOU RECEIVED THE CONTRACT TO ENTER IN THE PUBLIC RECORDS? WE ATTEST TO THE THIS, THE WHAT? THE ACTION.
YOU, YOU'RE, YOU'RE NOT SAYING THAT THERE'S CONTRACTS THAT YOU DON'T, IF IF I, IF I RECEIVE A CONTRACT AND IT HAS PLACE FOR ME TO SIGN IT, I SIGN IT.
BUT WE TAKE ALL THE CONTRACTS.
YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO RECEIVE ALL THE CONTRACTS AND RECORD THEM FOR THE PUBLIC.
YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO RECEIVE THE CONTRACTS AND STAFF THEM AS PART OF THE PUBLIC RECORD.
IT TAKES US A WHILE TO GET SOME OF THEM.
SOME OF THEM WE NEVER RECEIVE.
PARDON? I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU SAID.
I SAID WE DON'T RECEIVE ALL THE CONTRACTS.
THERE ARE INSTANCES WHERE WE DON'T HAVE THE CONTRACTS.
DO YOU HAVE YOU, I MEAN HAVE YOU ASKED FOR THEM AND NOT BEEN GIVEN THEM? OR IS IT JUST A WE AN OVERSIGHT OR WHAT? WE WORK WITH YOUR OFFICE TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYTHING THAT'S ON THE AGENDA IS RECEIVED IN THE PACKAGE.
AND WHEN YOUR OFFICE SAYS THERE'S NOTHING THERE, THERE'S NOTHING WE CAN DO.
WHEN SOMEONE REQUESTS SOMETHING AND YOU GO BACK AND YOU DON'T HAVE THE DOCUMENTS, WE'LL TRY TO GO BACK TO THE ORIGINATING PERSON WHO WOULD'VE KEPT THOSE CONTRACTS.
BUT THOSE CONTRACTS ARE JUST NOT ALWAYS AVAILABLE AND THEY DON'T ALWAYS MAKE IT TO THE COMMISSIONER COURT MINUTES.
OUR JOB IS NOT TO NECESSARILY GO OUT THERE.
DEMAND THAT I HAVE NO AUTHORITY TO DO DENY UNDERSTAND THAT.
AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT IT HAS NOT BEEN OCCURRING.
I WAS UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT IT HAS BEEN OCCURRING.
WE ALWAYS HAVE A COPY ON FILE AT MY OFFICE AND CERTAINLY WE CAN PROVIDE THAT WITH YOU AS WELL.
SO IF THAT'S, IF THAT'S BEEN A COMMUNICATION PROCESS, RIGHT, OUR QUALITY, WE CAN CERTAINLY DO THAT.
JACK, I THINK YOU HAVE A COMMENT.
YEAH, JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, YOU ONLY TALKING ABOUT CONTRACTS COURT PASSING COURT, NO PURCHASE ORDERS.
WE NOT, I SIGNED, I SIGNED CONTRACT.
I UNDERSTAND YOU HAVE HUNDREDS OF HUNDREDS.
I'M TALKING ABOUT JUST CONTRACTS THAT ARE PASSED WEEK BEFORE, UH, JOHN AND, AND UH, THE DA IS THAT A IS UH, AMEND MOTION, DOES THAT PASS, UH, WHAT YOU FEEL LIKE WOULD BE APPROPRIATE? CAN YOU READ IT? YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I WAS GONNA ASK.
COMMISSIONER'S COURT ORDER STATING THAT ALL CONTRACTS THAT MUST BE PASSED BY COMMISSIONER'S COURT BE SIGNED BY A QUORUM OF THE COMMISSIONER'S.
COURT, COUNTY JUDGE, COUNTY CLERK GET COPIES TO BE SUPPLIED.
BUT YOU'RE JUST SAYING SHE'S NOT SIGNED.
NO, I MEAN MAYBE I SHOULD REPHRASE THAT TOO.
WELL, THAT'S NOT WHAT I SUGGESTED FIRST.
I, I THINK WHAT IT SAID FOR PERMANENT COUNTY CLERK SIGNING A CONTRACT, THIS IS PURPOSE HARM THE QUORUM WOULD BE REFLECTED IN THE MINUTES IN ANY OF THAT.
SO IT'S SAYING A QUORUM IS GOING TO SIGN IT.
I MEAN THE CITY DOESN'T TYPICALLY DON'T HAVE THE SIGNED THEIR CONTRACTS.
IF YOUR CONCERN IS THAT YOU WANT THE ABILITY TO SEE THE CONTRACT, THAT'S WELL, JUST LIKE THE A TS CONTRACT, IT WAS AMENDED, ACCURATE.
WE HAD THE INFORMATION AND WE REVIEWED IT AND IT WAS PASSED IN COMMISSIONER COURT AND THEN IT WAS AMENDED AND WE HAD NO KNOWLEDGE OF THAT.
THE MOTION THAT APPROVED THAT COMMISSIONER GAVE THE UH, UH, THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE POWER TO AMEND.
I, THAT'S WHY I'M ASKING FOR THIS.
SO WE WILL HAVE A TRUE AND CORRECT CONTRACT AND WE'RE NOT LEFT IN THE DARK OR WHAT'S BEEN AMEND WHAT'S
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BEEN CHANGED? I'M SORRY.AND THIS IS A LITTLE CONFUSION ON MY PART.
I THINK THE FACT THAT THE CONTRACT WAS BE AMENDED, EXAMPLE, YOU'RE GIVING ATS INSTEAD OF HAVING THAT SIGNED YOU, YOU BRING UP POINT.
IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN BROUGHT BACK IN REVIEW.
I THINK, I THINK WHAT JOHN IS SAYING THAT MAKES, NOT SAYING THAT YOUR OTHER IDEA DOESN'T MAKE SENSE, BUT TO US, KNOWING THAT YOU WANT TO BE EFFICIENT AND BE STREAMLINED, YOU'RE PUTTING SOMETHING IN MORE CUMBERSOME, HAVING AMENDED OR THE ORIGINAL CONTRACT, ANY CONTRACT ATTACHED WOULD BE REALLY GREAT TO ANY AGENDA ITEM THAT YOU CAN SEE IT EVERY TIME.
IN FACT, IF SOMEBODY DOESN'T ATTACH THE CONTRACT, IT SHOULD BE TABLED WOULD BE MY SUGGESTION.
BECAUSE IT SHOULD BE A REQUIREMENT JUST LIKE A MEMO, A BRIEF MEMO.
YOU HAVE HUNDREDS OF ITEMS HITTING YOU.
WHAT JOHN IS SAYING IS THE ACTUAL EXECUTION OF THE DOCUMENT, WHY WOULD YOU ENCUMBER YOURSELF BY HAVING THE PEOPLE THAT BY THE MINUTES HAVE ALREADY APPROVED WHO'S APPROVED? THE THREE, THE TWO THAT DON'T.
I MEAN IT DOESN'T MATTER TO US IF THE THREE THAT HAVE APPROVED IT AND THEN THE JUDGE SIGNS IT, THERE'S NO REASON TO HAVE THE COUNTY CLERK SIGN AGREE TO THAT.
WELL, I I BUT THE BUT THE THREE, WHAT YOUR MOTION IS, IS ASKING FOR THE THREE AND THEN FOR THE, AND AND THAT INCLUDES THE JUDGE AND THE JUDGE.
BUT THAT'S THE ONLY DIFFERENCE WE'RE MAKING DISTINCTION OF IS LET'S MAKE SURE EVERYTHING AMENDMENT, EVEN IF WE HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO DO IT AND IT'S MINISTERIAL, BRING IT TO YOU, LET YOU SEE IT, DEBATE IT.
AND WE'RE JUST MAKING A DISTINCTION OF THE SIGNATURE LINES, WHICH MIGHT BE JUST GRINDING IT DOWN TO TOO LOW.
YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? I DON'T WANNA KEEP GRINDING THE ISSUE.
WE'RE JUST TRYING TO MAKE IT EASIER ON Y'ALL.
IF YOU VOTED FOR SOMETHING, YOU COME BACK AND SEND IT, HE SIGNS IT.
IF Y'ALL DON'T PASS IT, HE CAN'T SIGN IT.
SO YOU'RE SAYING THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO REVO THE CONTRACT AFTER AMENDMENT AFTER.
WHAT WAS THE EXAMPLE YOU'RE GIVING ME IN THE AMENDMENT? YOU WOULD GO REVIEW IF YOU DIDN'T, IF YOU, IF YOU DIDN'T HAVE THE MAJORITY OF THAT APPROVED IT, BUT YOU REMEMBER ON THAT PARTICULAR INSTANCE YOU WOULD'VE AGREED BECAUSE YOU HAD ALREADY PREVIOUSLY GIVEN US THE AUTHORITY TO AMEND IT.
IN THAT INSTANCE IT WAS A FAVORABLE AMENDMENT.
THAT'S WHY WE WENT AHEAD AND DID IT IN THAT INSTANCE.
YOU SEE WHAT I'M SAYING? OKAY.
THE WAY THAT CONTRACT WAS ORIGINALLY DRAFTED, I GET WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
WELL I KNOW, BUT I MEAN WHEN WE AMENDED IT, IT WAS IT MORE FAVORABLE FOR THE COUNTY'S POSITION IN THAT CONTRACT.
SO WE AMENDED IT BECAUSE YOU HAD ALREADY VOTED IN A PREVIOUS COMMISSIONER'S COURT TO GIVE THE DA THE AUTHORITY TO AMEND.
SO WE WERE ACTING WITHIN YOUR COURT ORDER TO AMEND IT.
PARTICULARLY IF IT WAS MORE FAVORABLE TO THE COUNTY IN THIS CASE WITH THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT ORDER.
AND THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED IN THAT A TS INSTANCE THAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO.
THEY MADE IT, THEY MADE IT MORE FAVORABLE TO US BY REMOVING THE UH, THE QUOTAS WHICH YOU HAD ALREADY SUGGESTED AND GIVEN US THE AUTHORITY IN THAT ORDER OR WE WOULDN'T HAVE HAD THE AUTHORITY TO DO THAT.
BUT YOUR MORE PARTICULAR QUESTION IS, I WANNA KNOW AND WE, THINGS HAPPEN FROM WEEK TO WEEK OR MONTH TO MONTH, PLEASE ATTACH THE CONTRACT SO WE CAN REVIEW EVEN IF THIS WOULD'VE BEEN MINISTERIAL AND SAY THIS IS HOW IT IS AMENDED.
ANY OBJECTIONS? OKAY, MOVING ON.
YOUR OTHER QUESTION IS HOW MANY PEOPLE SHOULD SIGN? AND I'M SUGGESTING WOULD JOHN ADVISE LEANER, QUICKER, EFFICIENT? IF YOU WANNA BE MORE CUMBERSOME TO HAVE THE PEOPLE THAT APPROVED IT, THE THREE OUT OF THE FIVE, THAT'S Y'ALL'S CALL.
BUT HE'S JUST TELLING YOU THAT'S DIFFERENT THAN WHAT HE RECOMMENDED.
MOST OF THE CONTRACTS THAT I SIGNED ONLY HAVE ONE PLACE TO SIGN AND IT TYPICALLY WILL STATE THE CHIEF EXECUTIVE OFFICER ON COUNTY JUDGE.
AND I MEAN WE CAN DO THIS, BUT I WOULD PREFER COMMISSIONER THAT WE FOLLOW THE ADVICE.
LET'S TABLE THIS PERHAPS AND IF WE NEED TO COME BACK AND DISCUSS IT, I WANNA SET DOWN IF THE COURT DOESN'T THINK THAT'S NECESSARY, THAT'S FINE.
I MEAN, CAN I ADD SOMETHING AFTER ALL THIS? LISTEN, IS IT POSSIBLE THAT INSTEAD OF SIGNING A CONTRACT NECESSARILY THAT THE CONTRACT BE IN THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT DOCKET OTHER WORDS INSTEAD OF SAYING, WELL LET'S BUY, LET'S DO WHATEVER.
LET'S DO A CONTRACT WITH THESE PEOPLE AND THEN THAT'S THE END OF IT.
AND THAT JUST CONTRACT NEEDS TO COME TO COURT BEFORE WE VOTE.
AND I'M EVEN SAYING THAT IF THE CONTRACT IS NOT ATTACHED TO THE AGENDA ITEM THAT YOU TAKE, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE SAYING.
WE AGREE YOUR POSITION TOTALLY.
BECAUSE INFORMATION'S POWER, IF YOU SEE IT THEN YOU KNOW THEN THAT
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THAT MINISTRY ACTIVE JUDGE WOULD SIGN.HE'S JUST SITTING THERE SIGNING ORDERS AFTER THE COURT'S OVER.
IF THERE NEEDS TO BE A CHANGE, WE'LL OF COURSE MAKE IT IF THERE'S SOME CLERICAL ERROR.
BUT WE'RE JUST TELLING YOU, YOU GUYS HAVE A LOT OF BUSINESS YOU ATTEND TO AND WHEN PEOPLE, BUT YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND PEOPLE ARE GONNA THEN BE UPSET WHEN YOU CREATE A RULE AND YOU WANT THE CONTRACTS ATTACHED AND THEY'RE NOT, YOU SEE, BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T ALWAYS OPERATED THAT WAY.
SO YOU GOTTA REMEMBER WHEN YOU MAKE A RULE, THE DETRIMENT OF THAT RULE WILL BE THAT IN SOME INSTANCES PEOPLE WILL FEEL LIKE IT'S GONNA SLOW DOWN THE PROCESS.
SO THAT'S ALL THAT I, I GOTTA SAY I WON'T ADD ANYMORE.
WELL, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, TODAY WE BROUGHT THE CONTRACT I THINK, I THINK WE'VE BROUGHT MOST OF THE CONTRACTS.
WE MAYBE IF I SEE THE CONTRACT, WELL I THINK WE DO THAT.
I MEAN I CANNOT REMEMBER A CONTRACT THAT WE BROUGHT TO YOU THAT YOU DIDN'T ASK YOU THAT YOU DIDN'T HAVE A COPY OF.
WE IS THAT, I MEAN CAN YOU REMEMBER ANY WHAT'S PERMIT? AS LONG AS WE GET A COPY OF IT SUBMITTED THEN GO DOWN ROAD.
I DON'T, I THINK IT WILL MAKE US LOOK, LOOK STRANGE.
WE CAN CERTAINLY PROVIDE THE COPIES JUST LIKE WE'VE BEEN DOING.
AND I THINK THE IDEA OF HAVING THE AMENDED COPY, SO YOU WOULD KNOW WE CAN DO THAT AS WELL.
BUT THE MOTION WOULD GAVE THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE THE AUTHORITY TO AND JUST LIKE IT DID WITH JACK ON THE PURCHASING OF RADIO EQUIPMENT, GAVE THEM TO WORK OUT THE VERY BEST DEAL THEY COULD AND THEY DID.
AND THEN THEY BROUGHT IT AND I SIGNED IT AND WE SHOULD HAVE RESPONDED BACK.
WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT HAPPENS IN THE FUTURE.
WELL I'M GOOD AS LONG AS WE ARE PRIVY TO THE CONTRACTS AND AMENDMENT SO WE KNOW WHAT WE HAVE, WHETHER IT'S
AND WE'LL CERTAINLY MAKE SURE THAT THE ADDITIONAL COUNTY CLERK.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS? COMMISSIONER, DO YOU HAVE THAT ON THE MOTION? I BELIEVE I DO.
DO YOU WANT TO, DO YOU WANNA AMEND THE MOTION AFTER WE HAVE THIS DISCUSSION? I AMEND, I AMEND THE MOTION TO THE POINT THAT THE COUNTY CLERK IS NOT, UH, REQUIRED TO SIGN THE CONTRACT COMMISSIONER COURT ORDER STATING THAT ALL CONTRACTS THAT MUST BE PASSED BY COMMISSIONER'S COURT BE SIGNED BY FORMER COMMISSION COURT COUNTY JUDGE AND COPIES TO BE SUPPLIED TO EACH.
SO YOUR MOTION AND THE COUNTY CLERK.
SO YOUR MOTION IS JUST TO, YOU HAVE IT? YES, WE CAN BILL AGAINST IT.
WE HAVE A SECOND TO THAT MOTION.
DO WE HAVE A SECOND? DO WE HAVE A SECOND? MOTION FAILS FOR A SECOND.
UH, WHERE ARE WE? 15 DISCUSS AND THIS WAS BY COMMISSIONER ROSA, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER SETTING A DATE FOR A WORKSHOP TO DISCUSS CREATION AND OVERSIGHT POLICY FOR THE 9 1 1 REGIONAL DISPATCH CENTER OF GOVERNORS FORD.
MY RECOMMENDATION, UH, AFTER TALKING TO SEVERAL OF THE C UH, REPRESENTATIVES IS, UM, THEY CONCERNED ABOUT THE GOVERNANCE OF THIS DISPATCH CENTER.
AND I THINK MOST OF THEM ARE UNDER THE IMPRESSION OF THE WILL THAT WE HAVE A SEPARATE ENTITY NOT BE ON CONTROL OF THE SHERIFF DEPARTMENT, THAT WE MAINTENANCE ONLY ENTITY, UH, OR COMBINE IT WITH ANOTHER DEPARTMENT.
AND I'M PROPOSING TO PUT IT UNDER THE HEADING OF THE, UH, EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT COORDINATOR.
SINCE HE IS IN THE BUILDING, HE CAN BE THE OLD SITE.
WE'LL KEEP ALL THE, THE, ALL THE DISPATCHERS THAT ARE THERE.
WE WILL KEEP, UH, MR. MOORE AHEAD ON AHEAD OF THE DISPATCHER.
AND I THINK WE SHOULD HAVE A, UM, WORKSHOP TO DISCUSS THAT WITH REPRESENTATIVES FROM ALL THE CITIES ATTENDING.
AND, AND, AND THAT'S WHAT YOUR MOTION IS, IS TO HAVE THE WORKSHOP, HAVE THE WORKSHOP FOR THIS ITEM.
YOU PUT THAT IN FORM MOTION? I DO.
WE'LL HAVE A MOTION FOR COMMISSIONER RESOLVE TO
WELL WE, WE, THAT'S SOMETHING WE NEED TO, I'LL HAVE TO GET, YOU KNOW, WE'LL NOTIFY WE DO THAT.
SHERIFF, YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS ABOUT THAT? NO.
WE, WE, WE DO HAVE THE, UH, UH, ROUGH DRAFT OF THE GOVERNMENT BOARD OUT TO, UH, CAROL HOFFMAN AND CRAN.
THE SMALL AGENCIES WERE SUPPOSEDLY THE FIRE DEPARTMENT AND A SMALL AGENCY WILL HAVE A, UH, ELECTED MEMBER ON THAT.
AND THE DEPARTMENT MEMBERS WILL BE THE MOST HAROLD, UH, COFFMAN AND REPRESENTATIVE SHERIFF'S OFFICE.
I BELIEVE THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE HAS BEEN WORKING ON THAT AS WELL.
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YEAH.DO YOU HAVE ANYBODY THAT'S, UH, THAT YOU KNOW OF IN THE METROPLEX OR ONE OF THE AGENCIES AROUND THAT HAS DUMP SOMETHING LIKE THIS THAT YOU PROBABLY CAN THE, UH, ASK FOR ITEMS ON THIS? YES, WE'VE LOOKED AT THOSE, BUT WE'VE GOT A LOT OF INFORMATION UP.
THEY'RE ONE IN VILLE, ONE CEDARVILLE WHERE GARLAND AND MESQUITE ARE TRYING TO DO MUCH.
WE HAVEN'T REINVENTED THE WHEEL.
WE HAVE A MOTION SECOND ON THE FLOOR.
ITEM NUMBER 16 IS ALSO FROM COMMISSIONER LIK TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER AUTHORIZING THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY TO CREATE A AGREEMENT OR A LETTER OF INTENT TO USE TO DOCUMENT LOCAL CITY'S PARTICIPATION IN THE 9 1 1 REGIONAL DISPATCH CENTER.
THIS GOES BACK TO OUR PREVIOUS DISCUSSION.
I THINK WE SHOULD HAVE ONE UNIFORM LETTER.
UM, THAT AT THIS POINT, ONCE WE HAVE THE DISCUSSION WITH THE CITIES, UM, ON THIS WORKSHOP, IF THEY AGREE TO THE GOVERNOR'S BOARD AND ALL REGULATIONS AND STIPULATIONS INVOLVED IN THAT, THAT THEY CAN SIGN THIS LETTER INTENT, THAT BE A VALID LETTER FORMULATED BY OUR DISTRICT GOVERNOR'S OFFICE WILL BE UNIFORM.
SO EVERY CITY SIGNS THE SAME DOCUMENT.
COULD THAT ALSO BE GOVERNANCE AGREEMENT? SO IF YOU HAVE A CONTRACT, THAT'D BE THE SAME.
THEY'RE AGREEMENT, RIGHT? YES.
I PREFER THEY SIGN AN AGREEMENT, BUT AT THE VERY LEAST, YOU KNOW, THIS IS, IT MAY TAKE A WHILE TO DO IRON OUT THE ACTUAL CONTRACTS.
UNLESS YOU HAVE, YOU'LL A VERY GOOD WELL, AND I THINK WE NEED TO REMEMBER IS EVERY ONE OF THESE CITIES HAS LEGAL REPRESENTATIVE.
THAT'S, THAT'S WHY I SAY GONNA BE, BE A TRICK GETTING ALL HIM TOGETHER.
AND THAT'S WHY I'M, THAT'S WHY I'M SUGGESTING AT LEAST A UNIFORM LETTER OF INTENT UNTIL WE CAN GET THE GRIEVANCE FINALIZED.
BECAUSE I UNDERSTAND THIS, I THINK THE DA'S OFFICE WAS ALREADY WORKING ON THERE.
THE THING IS, UM, SHERIFF, WHAT WE HAD SAID BEFORE, THEY ALL SENT IN, YOU HEARD US TALK ABOUT DIFFERENT, DIFFERENT LETTERS AND INTENT.
THEY'RE A LITTLE ALL OVER THE PLACE.
BUT WE SURELY, IF THAT'S WHAT THE COMMISSION'S COURT VOTES TO DO, WE CAN WORK WITH THEM WITH SOMETHING UNIFORM TO HAVE A GOOD FAITH BELIEF THAT THEY'RE ENTERING INTO THIS AGREEMENT.
I DO ALREADY, BASED ON WHAT I'VE READ, A GOOD FAITH BELIEF, BUT WE'LL DO THAT.
YOU THINK IT IS A GOOD IDEA TO DO THAT? I DON'T THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA, BUT I MEAN I'LL DO IT IF Y'ALL WANT US TO.
I MEAN THEY'VE ALREADY GIVEN LETTERS INTENT.
WE REALLY WANT INTER LOCAL AGREEMENT.
BUT IT'S KIND OF LIKE WE'RE GOING BACK AND SAYING, WELL WE REALLY DIDN'T TRUST YOUR FIRST LETTER.
I MEAN I'M JUST TELLING THAT YOU ASKED ME WOULD I DO IT WITH THE QUESTION.
I LISTENED TO THE QUESTION AND THE ANSWER IS I WOULD DO IT.
NOW YOU'RE ASKING A GOOD IDEA.
I MEAN WE'RE NOT TRYING TO BE COUNTRY THAT THAT WILL START OUT THE BARN.
SO NOW WE GOTTA GET THEM IN CONTRACT NEGOTIATIONS AND GET IT DOWN.
WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO OPERATE ON THEIR YEAH, HE SAID THE LETTER OF INTENT IS WHAT HE SAYS.
OH SAYS, HE SAYS IN HERE AGREEMENT OR LETTER.
IF WE DO A DISAGREEMENT THEN I THINK YEAH, BUT YOU CAN'T, DO YOU THINK YOU'LL HAVE THE AGREEMENT RATIFIED SHORT PERIOD OF TIME? WE STILL HAVE A LOT OF NUMBERS TO GIVE THESE CITIES.
PARDON? WE STILL HAVE A LOT OF NUMBERS THESE CITIES DON'T HAVE.
WELL THAT MAKES HIS POINT'S WHY HE'S SAYING HE WANTS HIS LETTER.
THAT'S WHY I LIKE A LETTER, A UNIFORM LETTER OF INTENT.
I'M NOT ACCUSING ANYBODY OF EVERYTHING.
LET HIM DA AGREE WITH YOU EARLIER ABOUT THE, THE DIFFERENT MEANING OF THE WORDS, YOU KNOW, AND THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE.
WE HAVE LETTERS ALL OVER THE PLACE.
I JUST THINK WE'RE REINVENTING THE, AGAIN, YOUR HONOR.
MY OPINION IS THAT WE'VE GOT LETTERS THAT ARE NOT UNIFORM AND, AND NOT VERY SPECIFIC FOR SOME OF THE, AND IF THEY INTEND TO PARTICIPATE, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THEM SIGN ONE UNIFORM LETTER SAYING EVEN THOUGH YOU MADE THE MOTION TO APPROVE THE EARLIER, YOU STILL FEEL LIKE YOU NEED THIS AS BACKED UP.
IF OUR DA THINKS THAT WE, WE DON'T NEED SIGNATURES ON ANY TYPE OF LETTER, THEN I, I DON'T EITHER, BUT IT, IT'S UP TO HER.
WELL, GOODNESS MAY BE MY ONLY CHANCE.
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INVOLVED AND I I JUST APPRECIATE THE VOTE ON BEHALF OF LAW ENFORCEMENT AND SO I I APPRECIATE THAT AND I THINK THE INDIVIDUAL CITIES ARE GONNA SEE THE WISDOM AND THEY'VE ALREADY GIVEN, AND I AGREE WITH YOU IN A VERY POP SCOTCH INARTICULATE THEY MEANT TO BE, BUT NOT THAT DECISIVE LANGUAGE.BUT I THINK TO GO BACK TO THEM SINCE WE'RE GONNA BE DEALING WITH THEM MAY SEEM LIKE WE'RE GIVING THEM THE BACK.
SO LET'S MOVE FORWARD AND THEN BE IN NEGOTIATIONS WITH THEM.
IF THEY START PROCESS, WE'RE GONNA HAVE A PROBLEM, BUT WE'LL DEAL WITH THAT BECAUSE Y'ALL HAVE TAKEN THE
SO FOR THEM TO DO US WRONG IN THIS WOULD BE SORT OF WISHY-WASHY LETTER, A COUPLE PEOPLE THAT'S GONNA LOOK NOT FAVORABLE ON THEM.
WELL, TO BE, TO BE CLEAR, WHEN I, WHEN I PUT THIS AGENDA ITEM ON HERE, WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY LETTERS.
YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY CORRECT AND, AND YOU AND I SPOKE AT SOME, UH, EVENT CASUALLY AND, AND I THINK THE MESSAGE, YOUR CONCERN HAS RESONATED AND IN A RESPONSE IT HAS COME BACK.
SO WHAT YOU DO HERE AS A COMMISSIONER'S GROUP DOES GET TO THE COMMUNITY AND BY THE SAME TOKEN IS GETTING THERE THAT Y'ALL HAVE NOW APPROVED THIS.
AND SO I THINK THERE WILL BE A, A, UM, A GOOD DIALOGUE AS WE MOVE TOWARD THE NEXT STEP, WHICH THE LOCAL AGREEMENT.
SO TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, WE DON'T NEED TO GO BACK AND SAY YOU REALLY NEED THIS.
I THINK WE NEED TO GO FORWARD.
WELL, I SAY TO BE CLEAR, WHEN, WHEN I PUT THIS AGENDA ITEM ON YES SIR.
SO I'D LIKE TO AMEND MY MOTION TO READ THIS.
UH, AUTHORIZE THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY TO CREATE AN AGREEMENT.
TO BE USED TO DOCUMENT LOCAL CITY PARTICIPATION FOR THE 9 1 1 CASE.
SECOND FROM THE COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSIONS? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
A ALL WE'RE GOING DO ONE MORE ITEM.
KNOW EVERYBODY'S TIRED OF CITY, BUT LET'S GO AHEAD AND, UH, UH, DUE NUMBER 17, THIS WAS PLACED ON THE AGENDA BY COMMISSIONER SHANE, UH, SARAH APPROVING APPOINTMENTS TO THE NORTH CENTRAL TEXAS HOUSING FINANCE BOARD.
I KNOW UP TO, OKAY, ARE YOU, DO YOU KNOW WHAT IT, ALRIGHT, WE HAVE A MOTION, UH, FROM COMMISSIONER SHANE A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER ZA, UH, TO APPOINT PHILLIPS TO REPLACE, UH, RAY CLARK ON THE, UH, CENTRAL TEXAS NORTH CENTRAL TEXAS COUNCIL HOUSING FINANCE FLOOR.
BACK AND ICHECKING THAT WE DON'T RECALL WHICH 100 THOSE ARE TWO CALLS FROM, UH, JOHN LONG AND A $2 CHARGE SOMETHING ELSE.
SO HE, HE WAS CHEWING ME OUT FOR CALLING AND ASKING THE QUESTIONS, SAYING HE WAS HOPING WE WOULDN'T BE BILLED AND WE HAD NEVER BEEN BILLED BEFORE THAT POINT UNTIL HE BROUGHT, AND THEN MR. ROSA BROUGHT ME THE LETTER THAT Y'ALL WERE COVERED UNDER THE ASSOCIATION.
SO I ADDRESSED HIM, ALLISON AND HE TOLD ME TO REMOVE THE ONE THAT MR. ROSA AND COMMISSIONER SHANE.
SO THAT'S WHY WE PAY THAT MONEY FOR TO ABLE ASK QUESTION SHOULD THEY BE ABLE TO BILL FOR JOHN'S QUESTIONS? I DUNNO.
HE'S NOT TO ANOTHER, JOHN'S NOT A COMMISSIONER OF THE COURT.
I ASKED SOMETHING, THERE WAS SOMETHING ELSE ASKED ABOUT THE LAWSUITS AND THINGS AND HE CAN'T EVEN REMEMBER WHEN YOU AND I SAID, BECAUSE THAT'S A PRIVATE COMPANY, SO I'D LIKE TO ATTACH THAT MY EMAIL AND SAY I NEED THESE DELETED ALSO.
WELL DIDN'T THAT UM, EMAIL COME FROM YOU?
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YEAH.DID YOU LETTER ON THE AGENDA ITEM FOUR, UH, LINE TRANSFER LIKE, AND CHANGES THAT HE CAN'T LEAVE BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO STAY PAY BILLS BECAUSE THAT'S THE MOST AFTER THIS LONG MEETING THIS MORNING, WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY PAPERS.
YOU READY FOR QUESTION AND ANSWER, UH, YOUR NAME.
DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OVER THE LINE? ITEM TRANSFER? NO.
BECAUSE ONE OF THEM WAS TO INCREASE THE PAID COURT DAYS THAT YOU APPROVED.
THE OTHER ONE IS, UH, COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS NEEDS SOME ADDITIONAL MONEY AND A COUPLE OF HIS LINE ITEMS. THEN COMMISSIONER, UH, WANTED TO BUY A PIECE EQUIPMENT AND HE HAS QUITE CONTINGENCY, SO WE WANTED TO MOVE THAT SO HE COULD BUY THOSE PIECES OF EQUIPMENT.
69 THAT GOES IN THE BACK OF IT.
THAT'S, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT THE UH, I TRANSFER? WE HAVE A MOTION FOR COMMISSIONER SHANE.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
NUMBER 19 IS DISCUSSING CONSIDER CLAIMS FOR PAYMENT.
UH, YOUR CLAIMS PER PAYMENT ARE 515,000 THIRTY SEVEN TEN FIVE STACK.
WHEN WAS THAT? LIKE FOUR FIVESIES.
THOSE ARE USUALLY ABOUT 2000 PIECE.
THEY'RE ABOUT, I THINK THEY'RE RUNNING 9 19 50 AND I THINK THEY WENT UP A HUNDRED OR 150.
SO THAT'D BE ABOUT, YOU'RE RIGHT, THAT'D BE ABOUT 10 AUTOPSIES.
ALRIGHT THEN, THEN, UH, TWO LINES LOWER.
FOR THE ANDERSON CLAYTON 78 75 FOR TRANSPORTATION.
THAT IS WHAT PART? THE MENT IS THAT FOR THE FIVE AUTOPSIES? UH, I THINK THAT'S ONLY, I REMEMBER THAT CAME ACROSS AND THEY DID NOT BILL US LAST YEAR, IF I REMEMBER.
AND THEY CALLED ME AND TOLD LAST YEAR.
YEAH, THEY CALLED ME AND TOLD ME THEY HAD, THEY JUST FORGOT TO BILL US WHERE THEY GO PICK UP, THEY BUY AND TAKE IT TO THE, YOU KNOW, TO THE MAR AND THAT'S WHAT IT'S FOR.
SEVERAL, YEAH, SEVERAL BILLS ON THERE.
SO THEY APOLOGIZED LETTER AND SAID NEVER DID IT HAPPEN AGAIN.
SO THERE IS A LETTER ATTACHED TO IT.
THE JUDGE, AND I APOLOGIZE, UH, FOR THE CLOSED, UH, INVOICE BECAUSE THEY UH, DID NOT BILL US, UH, QUARTERLY.
LIKE I SAID, THAT THERE WERE SEVERAL AND IT HAS THE ORDERED EACH.
YES, BUT BECAUSE DUE JUNE I ON THAT SAME UNDERNEATH, IS THAT G2 ENTERPRISE? WHAT IS THAT? THAT'S INTERPRETERS.
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OKAY.UNDER PAGE 16, THE, UH, MEDICAL DIGITAL EXAM HERE.
PRESBYTERIAN HOSPITAL 30, ALMOST 38 THOUSANDS.
THAT'S, I MEAN, WE HAVE A MEDICAL DID THEY HAVE, IF THEY'RE TRANSPORTING, WAS THAT A ONE PERSON OR INVOICE? NO, I DIDN'T.
UH, THEY ACTUALLY BILLED A 73,000, UM, AND THE AMOUNT THAT WAS AGREED TO PAY ACCORDING TO OUR AGREEMENT AGREEMENT, UH, IS THE, THE WE, WHAT DO WE DO WITH PAY ON MEDICARE? I THINK, I THINK THAT'S ACCORDING TO OUR CONTRACT.
SO MEDICARE, THAT THAT ABOUT RIGHT.
I THEY RELEASE, CATCH THAT, THAT.
ANY MORE QUESTIONS ON BILLS? UH, PAGE 21 COURT.
THE VERY LAST ONE WE PAID WAS $4,000 AND IT HAS THE, UH, ATTORNEY'S NAME AND C'S NAME, DATE.
ARE WE SURE THAT'S NOT ONE? THAT'S SEVERAL YEARS.
WELL I THINK THAT PROBABLY THEY CAN'T CLOSING DATE NOW.
EIGHTH 2014 FROM JANUARY EIGHT OF 15.
DOESN'T HAVE, YEAH, IT DOESN'T HAVE A DATE.
I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE SIGNED.
THAT'S A LOT OF MONEY LIKE A TRIAL DID.
SO DOES IT SAY A RIGHT HERE IT'S GOT SEE A TAX 6 29, 30 15.
YEAH, THAT'S WITHIN THE TWO YEAR PERIOD.
SO THE JUDGE JONES APPROVED IT? IT IT IS CURRENT.
A LOT OF TIMES THE STUFF THAT THEY ATTACHED IS PUT INTO THE, THE ACTUAL CAUSE THAT WAS IN, BUT HE, BUT THAT'S WHEN THAT ATTORNEY WAS WORKING IT.
THEY ALL KNOW WHERE WOULDN'T SUBMIT NEW.
WE HAVE OUT AT THE CCPS COURT.
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THAT WAS REALLY WELL LAST YEAR WE PAID TWO HUNDREDS MET AND THEY HIM ABOUT THE ISSUE.EVIDENTLY IT'S, IT'S, UH, BECAUSE HE'S WENT WAY DOWN ON, HE'S DISCOUNTING QUITE MONEY ON THE DRUG WOULD REIMBURSED BACK TO US.
21 THAT'S HAPPENED TO GOVERNOR.
AND SOME OF THE PEOPLE HAVE CHANGED OUT.
SO SOME OF THE ARE, IT'S NOT THAT THEY'RE DISAGREE.
SEVEN OR MAKING SURE THAT YOU KNOW THAT THEY CAN DO LEGALLY DISAGREE.
THIS IS, UM, UH, THIS WAS A, UM, ARMY CONSTRUCTION PROJECT.
HE'S BUSINESS THAT'S A CONSTRUCTION NOTE FOR THAT ORDER.
YOU KNOW WHAT THAT WAS FOR? OH, THAT'S, THAT WAS I'M ASKING YOU.
WE GOT A PROPANE TANK OUT THERE FOR GENERATOR.
IS IS THE, IS THERE BIG PROPANE TANK? $1,640.
YOU CAN'T SEE, I GUESS ONE'S FOR THE TANK AND OTHER'S FOR THE PROPANE ITSELF.
YEAH, THERE'S TWO, THERE SHOULD BE TWO TANKS IN THERE.
IS THAT ONE, THAT ONE IN THE GROUND.
BEEN THERE EVER SINCE, UH, THE ERY WAS PUT IN.
HOW MANY GALLONS WAS THAT? PROBABLY A THOUSAND GALLONS, I GUESS.
THE PROPANE BACK? YEAH, IT'S PRETTY CLOSE.
I YOU, YOU HAVEN'T REALIZE THAT NINE ONE IS FOR SECURITY AND SAFETY.
DON'T THINK SO, BUT I MEAN, I MEAN IT, YOU KNOW, IN, IN THE, THEY PUT THEM ON THE GROUND STATION, BUT I DIDN'T KNOW ONE.
SO WAS THAT, DID THAT ANSWER ALL YOUR QUESTIONS ON THE BILLS? YES, IT DID.
DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CLAIM? MOTION? UH, COMMISSIONER LIK MAKES A MOTION.
AND A MOTION TO ADJOURN OUT ON NUMBER 20.
COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS MAKES A MOTION.
ALRIGHT, BEFORE WE, UH, LEAVE HERE TODAY, UH.