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AND,

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UH, WE HAVE A FEW FOLKS HERE WITH US AND WELCOME TO EVERYBODY.

AND, UH, YOU HAVE YOUR, UH, COPY OF THE, UH, OF THE WORKSHEET TODAY.

AND I'M NOT SURE HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE ACTUALLY GOING TO SHOW UP BECAUSE SOME OF THEM DID NOT.

UH, I KNOW JUDGE JONES AND JUDGE RICH, I'M NOT SURE ABOUT THEM.

I EXPECT THEY WILL COME OVER FOR A LITTLE BIT.

UH, BUT, AND THEN JUDGE, UH, BARDEN IS, UH, LEAVING, OR I THINK LEFT LAST NIGHT FOR, THEY'RE ALL FOR TWO DAYS.

I THINK SHE STAY, THEY'RE TAKING A CRUISE, SO I KNOW SHE MAY BE HERE TODAY.

OKAY.

AND, OR ALL WEEK I THINK, OR MOST OF THE WEEK.

SO WHAT WE, UH, GOT PLENTY TO DO.

UH, LEMME JUST FOR THE JAKE AND, UH, STEVE, THIS, WHAT WE KIND OF DO, THIS IS JUST THE VERY BEGINNING PART OF IS KIND OF OVERALL, WE'LL, UH, I'VE ASKED EVERYBODY TO COME IN AND GIVE ANY, UH, UNUSUAL REQUESTS, YOU KNOW, THAT ARE EXTRAORDINARY THAT WE MIGHT NOT.

AND YOU SAW IF THEY ASKED SO TO, AND I THINK FOR THE MOST PART, EVERYBODY HAS, UH, DONE THAT.

BUT, UH, WHAT I EXPECT WE'LL DO, WE'LL SPEND THE NEXT TWO DAYS MEETING AND GOING OVER THE, THEIR INDIVIDUAL REQUEST AND KIND OF HASHING THROUGH THAT.

KAREN WILL BE HERE TO, UH, WE DO, AND OF COURSE WE GOT OUR COUNTY CLERK WELL TOO.

SO WE'LL HAVE A , BUT PRIMARILY SMILE.

WE KIND OF GET OUR MIND WRAPPED AROUND IT.

AS FAR AS, UH, THE TIMELINE ON IT, WE'LL, UH, WE, WE NEED TO HAVE SOMETHING ADOPTED TOWARDS THE END OF TENTATIVELY ADOPTED.

IT'S, WE HAVE TO, WE HAVE TO POST A TENTATIVE BUDGET 30 DAYS BEFORE WE ADOPT THE BUDGET.

AND SO WE'LL TRY TO DO SOMETHING TOWARDS THE END OF JUNE, AND WE'LL PICK A DATE AFTER WE KIND OF GET A LITTLE FURTHER ALONG SO WE CAN TENTATIVELY ADOPT A BUDGET.

AND THEN WE POST THAT ON THE WEBSITE.

AND THEN WE WILL, IN BETWEEN TIME, WE'LL STILL GET INFORMATION, YOU KNOW, WE'LL PROBABLY GET OUR FINAL NUMBERS FROM THE, UH, FROM THE APPRAISAL DISTRICT.

AND, UH, WE'LL, UH, HAVE, YOU KNOW, ANY OTHER INFORMATION THAT WE'LL KNOW.

WE, I DON'T THINK WE'RE GONNA HAVE OUR HEALTH INSURANCE, UH, UPDATE UNTIL WHEN, UH, I THINK SHE SAID THE MEETING WAS NOT UNTIL THE END OF JUNE.

OKAY.

OKAY.

SO TO DISCUSS IT.

SO IT PROBABLY BE EARLY JULY BEFORE WE CARRY.

YEAH.

SO WE DON'T HAVE THOSE NUMBERS.

AND I THINK, KAREN, YOU PLUGGED IN, UH, 9%, I THINK YOU TOLD ME.

UH, YES SIR.

'CAUSE LAST YEAR IT WAS BETWEEN SEVEN AND EIGHT, SO I JUST WENT WITH NINE.

YEAH.

JUST TO HAVE SOMETHING PLUGGED.

AND WHAT WE TEND TO DO ON HEALTH INSURANCE, BECAUSE IT'S A BIG NUMBER, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE BEGIN TO DO ON IT, IT COMES BACK.

JUST SO YOU KNOW, UP THERE.

WE GENERALLY COME IN AND LOOK FOR WHAT WE CAN DO TO HELP, YOU KNOW, CUT, CUT IT SO WE CAN, UH, STILL HAVE A GOOD PLAN AND, UH, BUT MAKE IT AFFORDABLE FOR US TOO.

SEVERAL MILLION DOLLAR HIT ON OUR BUDGET.

I SAY HIT, IT'S AN EXPENSE ON OUR, ON OUR BUDGET.

AND, UH, AS FAR AS PERSONNEL'S CONCERNED, WE'VE JUST KIND OF, YOU KNOW, WE, UH, WE'VE, WE'VE CUT, CUT, CUT ON PERSONNEL OVER THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS.

AND SO, AND THERE MAY STILL BE SOME CUTS THAT NEED TO BE MADE, BUT WE MAY HAVE SOME AREAS WHERE WE NEED TO ADD A PERSON OR TWO OR THREE OR FOUR OR WHATEVER.

YOU KNOW, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT HIRING A, UH, FACILITIES PERSON, YOU KNOW, WHICH PROBABLY WOULD BE MONEY SPENT, YOU KNOW, UH, TO HELP COORDINATE, YOU KNOW, OUR MAINTENANCE STUFF GOING ON AROUND THE COUNTY.

AND THERE MAY BE A FEW OTHER THINGS TOO, THAT AS FAR AS Y'ALL'S BUDGETS ARE CONCERNED, WE, WE, WE ALWAYS KIND OF SAVE THEM FOR THE PAST AND, UH, SEE, YOU KNOW, WHERE WE'RE, AND WHAT Y'ALL GONNA DO IS, UH, AS COMMISSIONERS, UH, YOU KNOW, WITH YOUR INDIVIDUAL BUDGETS, AND I KNOW THERE'S ANOTHER ENOUGH MONEY, YOU KNOW, WHETHER THAT'S, UH, THAT'S A GIVEN, YOU KNOW, BUT WE'LL CERTAINLY TRY TO DO WHAT WE CAN TO GET EVERYBODY AS MANY OF THEIR REQUESTS AS THEY CAN.

UH, THE GOOD NEWS IS, I, I THINK OUR VALUES ARE GOING TO BE UP SOME, I'M NOT SURE EXACTLY HOW MUCH, UH, BUT I, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY WITH THE GROWTH GOING ON, WE'VE HAD SOME VALUES THAT HAVE INCREASED OUR PERCENTAGES LOOK LIKE WE'RE GONNA BE RIGHT AT 98%, YOU KNOW, UH, MAYBE A LITTLE BETTER.

UH, THE, THE OTHER GOOD PART OF OUR BUDGET IS, IS THAT, UH, WE'VE GOT, UH, YOU KNOW, THE, UH, FEDERAL CONTRACT WE HAVE ON THE PRISONERS AT THE JAIL THAT

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HAS REALLY HAS, AND I HOPE WILL REALLY CONTINUE TO, UH, YOU KNOW, SEND US SOME MONEY THAT WE HAD NOT EXPECTED.

WE ONLY BUDGETED $350,000 FOR THAT THIS YEAR.

AND I THINK WE'RE CLOSE TO, WE'RE GETTING CLOSE TO EIGHT OR 900,000 ALREADY.

AND, UH, SO THAT'LL, THAT'LL BE, UH, THAT'LL BE A GOOD THING.

WE HAVE TO, I THINK WE HAVE TO BE CAREFUL ABOUT, UH, WHAT WE DO WITH THAT MONEY.

BECAUSE WHAT HAPPENED TO US A FEW YEARS AGO, WE WERE BUDGETING AT ONE TIME.

WE WERE GETTING, WHENEVER THE JAIL WAS FIRST BUILT, AND PEOPLE WERE AROUND US FOR SENDING US ALONG OF PRISON MM-HMM .

UH, WE WERE GETTING IT ONE TIME, LIKE SEVEN OR $800,000 YEARLY FROM OUTLYING COUNTIES.

AND THEN WHAT HAPPENED? UH, PEOPLE STARTED GETTING INTO THE BIDDING PROCESS AND THEY WERE ABLE TO COME IN AND UNDERCUT WHAT WE WERE RENTING OUR JAIL OUT FOR BY BID.

WELL, WE LOWERED OUR PRICES AND THEN, BUT ALSO WHAT HAPPENED, WE, FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND ALSO WHAT HAPPENED IS WE, WELL, I KNOW THIS HAPPENED BECAUSE I SAW IT FIRSTHAND.

WE CONTINUED TO BUDGET THAT SEVEN OR $800,000 AND IT DROPPED TO LIKE $30,000, YOU KNOW, AND THAT'S WHEN WE GOT THE BUDGET OUT OF WACK.

AND THAT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, THAT REALLY, AND OUR FINES AND FEES.

THAT'S THE OTHER THING THAT REALLY GOT OUR BUDGET OUT WACK.

THAT'S WHEN WE REALLY WENT, YOU KNOW, SOUTH, UH, AND WHEN WE STARTED, UH, AT 1.6 MILLION BUCKS IN THE RED.

AND, BUT THAT'S THE REASON WE, WE CONTINUED TO BUDGET THAT MONEY AND IT JUST WASN'T THERE.

COMPANY YOU CAN'T BUDGET TEMPORARY MONEY INTO RIGHT.

PERMANENTLY.

SO I I, AND YOU KNOW, I, UH, CHECKED WITH THE SHERIFF AND WITH BRIAN AND THEY FEEL VERY COMFORTABLE, UH, THAT THE, UH, MARSHAL SERVICE IS GOING TO CONTINUE TO SEND US THOSE PRISONERS.

IT'S TEMPORARY.

THERE'S NO, THERE'S NO GUARANTEE.

AND SO I THINK WE, WE NEED TO BE VERY JUDICIOUS ABOUT THAT.

AND, UH, WE, WE MAY, YOU KNOW, BUDGET SOME OF IT, BUT WE MAY NOT WANT EXCEPT PAY OFF.

WELL, BUT THE ONLY THING ABOUT PAYING IT OFF IS WE BUDGETED THREE 50 THIS YEAR.

SO WE NEEDED THAT TO BALANCE BUDGET.

BUT THE ONLY THING ABOUT PAYING IT OFF, I DON'T WANT TO, I MEAN, WE CAN SET IT ASIDE OF COURSE, BUT LET'S, LET'S MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T, LET'S LET'S PAY IT OFF, BUT MAYBE PAY IT OFF AT THE END OF THE, THE BUDGET.

MAKE SURE WE HAVE THE MONEY TO PAY IT OFF WITH, UH, YOU TALKING ABOUT THE LOAN ON THE, UH, ON THE 9 1 1 EQUIPMENT, WHICH IS THE HIGHEST INTEREST? THE JAIL BARN? PROBABLY THE JAIL, THE RADIO MONEY.

I THINK THE RADIO MONEY COME IN AT LIKE 2.25, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

I GOT, IT'S THE SHORT TERM ONE.

I MEAN, THAT'S THE EASIEST ONE TO GET RID OF.

WELL, WE, WE HAVE A COUPLE OTHERS THAT ARE EASY TO GET RID OF TOO.

AND THAT IS THE, UH, KAREN IS WORKING ON THIS, HER CHECKED OUT.

WE HAD DONE SOME SHORT LOANS ON SOME VEHICLES TWO OR THREE YEARS AGO.

AND WE OWE I THINK AMERICAN BANK ONE MORE.

AND, UH, I DON'T THINK YOU GOT THIS BACK YET, BUT I'M WAITING ON THE ONE FROM BANKCORP.

'CAUSE WE HAD FINANCED 135,000, UH, WITH THEM TO BUY THE, I THINK IT WAS THE TWO CANINE UNITS AND THEN THE TWO ANIMAL CONTROL, UH, TRUCKS.

AND THEN WE HAD TO EQUIP IT AND IT WIND UP BEING RIGHT AT 135,000.

AND, UH, I'VE ASKED FOR A PAYOUT AS OF SEPTEMBER.

SO I HAD THE RIGHT INTEREST RATE AND EVERYTHING TO, UH, SUBMIT TO, TO THE COURT ON THE SMALL LOANS AND WHAT WE COULD PAY OFF.

SO, AND THOSE ARE, I THINK, ARE GONNA BE HIGHER, PROBABLY HIGHER THAN, BUT THEY'RE SHORT TERM.

YEAH.

IT ONLY MAKE SENSE TO PAY THE HIGHEST INTEREST.

RIGHT.

AND IT MAY BE THAT WE MIGHT EVEN BE ABLE TO TAKE A STAB AT THOSE BEFORE THIS.

YES, GO AHEAD AND GET THEM CLEAR.

AND ONE OF 'EM IS ABOUT 70,000 I THINK A YEAR OTHER YES.

WHAT IT'S, BUT IN OTHER WORDS, WE'VE GOT SOME OPTIONS THERE THAT, UH, THAT WE COULD, WE COULD LOOK AT.

BUT I DO THINK WE NEED TO BE CAUTIOUS ABOUT THE, UH, NOT GOING OUT AND JUST RUSHING TO SPEND THIS MONEY THAT WE'RE GETTING FROM THE, SO WHEN WE DO A AUTO LOAN, DO WE HAVE TO PUT THOSE INTO A SINKING FUND TOO? WE GOTTA SET UP A SINKING FUND.

THE PAY WE NO, SIR.

OR IS IT JUST A, JUST A STRAIGHT PAY? IT'S A STRAIGHT PAY.

WHAT'S DONE TO MAKE A PAYMENT ON GENERAL FUND, LIKE YOUR, UH, CAPITAL LEASE MM-HMM .

LINE ITEM IN INTEREST.

WE DO THAT FOR WHATEVER DEPARTMENT.

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IF IT'S WITHIN THE GENERAL FUND, WE PUT IT IN A DEBT, UH, DEPARTMENT.

AND I GIVE YOU A SCHEDULE ON WHAT THAT DEBT IS FOR THE YEAR.

UH, ALSO WHEN THE JUDGE MENTIONED ABOUT HOW MUCH WE'VE GOTTEN FROM THE, UH, FEDERAL PRISONERS, UH, ONLY A LITTLE OVER THE THREE 50 HAS BEEN RECEIPTED.

IT'S THROUGH THE EMAILS THAT WE'VE RECEIVED FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT OF THE NEXT DEPOSITS THAT WE'LL GET, THAT'LL ADD UP TO CLOSE TO WHAT HE SAID.

SO WE HADN'T REC RECEIPTED THAT MONEY, BUT THEN BILLED AND THEN THEY DEPOSITED IT OR SENT CAROL A CHECK.

SO THEN SHE'LL RECEIPT IT.

SO, BUT IT IS, IT IS GOING TO BE, I'M SURE WELL OVER A MILLION BUCKS THEY WILL GET THIS YEAR.

YOU KNOW, SO, UH, AND THAT, THAT, THAT'S A GOOD THING.

AND THAT'S REASON, THE OTHER OTHER THING TO KNOW IS WE'VE STILL GOT $26 MILLION OF ROADBLOCK THAT WE'VE GOT TO SELL.

AND I TALL WITH JOHN POLLSTER AND HE'S NOT SURE WHETHER WE'RE GONNA NEED TO SELL 'EM IN 26, 20 15, 20 16 THIS NEXT YEAR OR THE FOLLOWING YEAR, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE JUST HOW THE CONTRACTS GO OUT.

BUT AT SOME POINT IN TIME, THOSE ARE GOING NEED TO BE SOLD EITHER THIS COMING BUDGET YEAR, THE FOLLOWING BUDGET YEAR.

AND SO THAT'S, UH, A REASON THAT WE NEED TO TRY TO WORK ON OUR FUND BALANCE BECAUSE THE HIGHER OUR FUND BALANCE IS THE CHEAPER RATE, YEAH.

THE CHEAPER RATE WILL BE THE MORE ATTRACTIVE IT WILL BE BECAUSE KIND OF LIKE OUR OWN CREDIT RATING, YOU KNOW, WE, WE, UH, DO THAT.

SO, AND IN THAT REGARD, UH, WE'VE TALKED TO THE, UH, OUTSIDE AUDITOR AND I BELIEVE THEY WILL HAVE OUR AUDIT FINISHED.

UH, NOT THIS COMING MEETING, NOT MONDAY, BUT THE LAST MEETING OF THE MONTH, THE 22ND I THINK IS WHEN IT'S, ISN'T THAT RIGHT, KAREN? YES, SIR.

YEAH.

AND, UH, AND IT DOES LOOK LIKE OUR FUND BALANCE IS GOING TO INCREASE, UH, AGAIN TO ABOUT 2.2 MILLION, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

STILL, THERE'S STILL, UH, UH, CHECKING AND RECHECKING AND MAKING SURE, SO THAT'S, THAT'S GOOD AS WELL.

THAT'S PROJECTED AT THE END OF THIS BUDGET YEAR AT THE END, WELL, AT THE END OF LAST YEAR'S BUDGET BECAUSE THE AUDIT, THAT'S A YEAR BEHIND.

YEAH.

YEAH.

SO, UH, BUT THAT'S, THAT'S GOOD.

AND, UH, SO, YOU KNOW, UH, WE ARE, WE'RE IN A LOT BETTER SHAPE FINANCIALLY THAN WE ARE, BUT WE NEED TO BE THE PRING AND, UH, WATCH WHERE WE GO AND JUST TRY TO DO THE BEST WITH WHAT WE, UH, YOU KNOW.

SO ANY WHAT QUESTIONS? ANYBODY HERE? WHAT, WHAT QUESTIONS? QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? I DUNNO, THE EVALUATIONS, I KNOW THE, THE STATEMENTS HAVE ALREADY GONE OUT.

MM-HMM .

DO WE NOT HAVE ANY INDICATION AS TO WELL, HE HAS SENT OUT A TEMPORARY, UH, I SAID A TEMPORARY, IT'S, UH, I THOUGHT I SENT THAT TO Y'ALL.

OKAY, WELL, I'VE GOT IT.

I'LL SEND IT TO, IT'S, IT'S IN THAT WE FIGURE IT OUT.

THEY CHANGED WHAT THEY DO WITH THAT 4% DEAL.

IS IT DEAD? IS IT STILL ALIVE OR WHAT? OH, I, I DON'T THINK IT PASSED.

IT FINALLY FAILED.

YEAH.

I THINK IT PASSED.

IT WENT DOWN AND IT CAME BACK THAT DAY.

AND I WAS TRYING, AND I MAY BE WRONG, I HAVEN'T KEPT UP WITH THAT PART, BUT I DON'T THINK I KEPT READING ON IT BECAUSE THAT, THAT WAS REALLY HURT.

I FIGURED JIM ALLISON OR OR SOMEBODY WILL SEND OUT SOMETHING LAST DAY.

SO IF IT DOESN'T MAKE IT THROUGH THEIR BACK UP AND ALIVE THROUGH THE DAY, THEN YEAH.

AND I UNDERSTAND JUST ABOUT EVERYTHING THAT THE PASSED, THE DEADLINES WELL PASSED BECAUSE OF ALL RULES AND STUFF THEY HAVE.

I KNOW, BUT YOU NEVER KNOW UNTIL, YEAH.

COMMISSIONER ALLEN.

YES, MA'AM.

HE SENDS US A TEMPORARY, WHAT HE CALLS A PRELIMINARY, UM, ESTIMATE OF WHAT HE'S ESTIMATING THE TAXABLE VALUES FOR ROAD BRIDGE AND FOR GENERAL FUND.

BUT HE HAS TO CERTIFY THOSE ROLES BEFORE WE ACTUALLY GET THE REAL NUMBERS.

OKAY.

OKAY.

AND IT, I CAN'T REMEMBER IF IT'S JUNE 25TH OR JULY 25TH BEFORE I THINK YOU'RE RIGHT, JUDGE.

YEAH.

BEFORE THE, WE'LL ACTUALLY GET THE CERTIFIED ROLE, AND THEN I DO A, A SHEET THAT SHOWS THE 98% OR 98.5, WHATEVER WE DECIDE THE BUDGET, WHAT THE GENERAL FUND WOULD GET, WHAT ROAD AND BRIDGE WOULD GET, AND WHAT WE HAVE TO HAVE FOR DEBT.

DEBT COMES FIRST, THE BOND ISSUES.

I HAVE TO MAKE SURE I HAVE ENOUGH IN THERE.

WHAT DOES IT LOOK LIKE PERCENTAGE WISE FOR THE PRELIMINARIES? THE, THE TAX RATES HAVE GONE UP.

THE VALUES.

YES.

RIGHT.

BUT NO DOLLAR FIGURE ATTACHED TO IT YET.

UH, YEAH, I HAVE IT,

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BUT I'LL HAVE TO GO GET IT OFF MY DESK.

OKAY.

I'M JUST CURIOUS AS TO WHAT, YEAH, IF YOU GO AHEAD, JUST GO AHEAD AND MAKE A COPY, EVERYTHING.

SURE.

I THOUGHT, I THOUGHT I FORWARDED THAT, BUT REALLY THIS PRELIMINARY STUFF IS, I MEAN, IT'S WHAT, IT'S, IT'S PRELIMINARY BECAUSE SEE YOU'VE GOT ALL THE APPEALS HEARING AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF, RIGHT.

SO, WELL, THEY'RE ALL DONE BY RIGHT.

AND HE, HE'S PRETTY GOOD ABOUT KEEPING US IN.

HE BE SIGNIFICANT, YOU KNOW, IN FACT, HE NEVER, I THINK HE ALWAYS BUDGET SUSPEND, NOT HAVE IT, YOU KNOW, DO MR. I'M NOT SURE HOW THIS AFFECTS, LIKE THE WHOLE REGION TO WHAT TIME PROPERTY.

WHENEVER IT CEASES BEING USED FOR AGRICULTURAL PURPOSES, AS SOON AS THEY CONSTRUCTION AND WHAT, WHAT PRISON WILL DO.

AND THEREFORE Y'ALL CAN BE A BIG HELP IF YOU THERE ON 7 41.

WHERE DO YOU GET TO YOUR BARN? ON THE LEFT.

LEFT.

PUT THE STAKES OUT THERE.

WELL, THEY PUT THE TRAILER OUT.

THERE'S BEEN, HE'S CONTACTED THE APPRAISAL DISTRICT OVER ALREADY.

OH, HAD HE? OH YEAH.

YEAH.

HE BEAT UP EVERYBODY IN THE WHOLE END OF THE WORLD OVER THERE, OVER THAT DD MAG.

OH, OKAY.

THAT'S IN HIS BACKYARD AND DUPLEX RIGHT UP AGAINST HIS PROPERTY.

FIVE COPIES.

HE DIDN'T OKAY.

TO PAY OFF 135,000 FOR THOSE VEHICLES WOULD COST US 91,000 3 10 50.

AND THAT SAYS 9 25.

OKAY.

UM, THAT'S WHAT, THAT'S WHAT LEFT, THAT'S THE BALANCE.

91,000 THE PAYOFF WOULD BE PAYOFF.

YEAH.

WE BOUGHT 135, BUT I PAID ON SOME OF THAT ALREADY.

I'D HAVE TO PULL MY, ALL MY LEASE PAYMENT, SEE IF THAT INTEREST RATE.

UM, STEVE ROBERTSON, AMERICAN NATIONAL BANK, THE CURRENT PRINCIPAL BALANCE THAT WE OWE IS 77,000 PAYOFF AS OF, LIKE, LAST FRIDAY WAS 77.

5 0 7.

SO THAT'S LIKE $500 MORE.

HE SAID INTEREST PER DAY IS 4.28 AT A RATE OF 2%.

THAT'S WHAT WE, WE GOT THAT POINT CHEAP.

UH, THEN ANOTHER ONE THAT I LOOKED AT WAS THE, UM, THE CLIMATE TECH GOVERNMENT CAPITAL OFFERED US A BETTER RATE THAN ANYBODY ON FINANCING AT THAT TIME.

AND, UH, I THINK WE BOARD LIKE A RIGHT AT 120 SOMETHING THOUSAND.

UH, I PAID A PAID A NOTE THIS, UH, LAST MONTH.

SO, UH, WE WOULD OWE HIM LIKE 113,000 IF WE WANTED TO PAY IT OFF.

AND, UH, THE RATE WAS 3.194.

WHAT WAS THAT K CLIMATE? KLON WAS THE CONTROL SYSTEM FOR THE BIG COURTHOUSE.

OH, OKAY.

AND, UH, JUDGE WOOD IS NOT SATISFIED YET, SO WE MIGHT NOT WANNA PAY THEM OFF TILL WE GET SATISFIED.

IT'S, UH, THEIR, THE SYSTEM OF WORKING IS NOT WORKING WHERE THEY SAID THEY WOULD.

YEAH.

AND SO WE, WE HAVEN'T DONE IT.

SO ON THE RADIO EQUIPMENT LOAN, IT WAS AT 2.25 WAS THE COUPON RATE, THE PRINCIPAL AMOUNT WE WOULD PAY, UM, SEPTEMBER OF 2016.

NOTHING.

THIS BUDGET, IT WOULD BE NEXT BUDGET THAT WE'RE DOING NOW.

OKAY.

WOULD BE PRINCIPAL OF 240,000, INTEREST OF 109,000, UH, MAKING THE TOTAL DEBT SERVICE PAYMENT.

349,000, A LITTLE UNDER 350 K.

OKAY.

BUT I BELIEVE THERE WAS, WE COULDN'T PAY ANYTHING ON.

YOU GONNA SHARE ALL THAT WITH US? YOU PRINT SATURDAY? I CAN SCAN IT AND EMAIL Y'ALL COPIES.

HOW ABOUT THAT? OR DO YOU YOU PREFER HARD COPY.

OKAY, I'LL GET DEBBIE, SHE'S MAKING YOU COPIES OF THE ASSESSED VALUE NOW I A SHEET.

AND THAT WAY WE CAN PREPARE.

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LAST YEAR, THE ADJUST AMOUNT THAT, UH, WE ACTUALLY USED ON THE BUDGET WAS 5,516,695,000 9 9 3.

SO WHEN SHE GIVES THAT, WE CAN KIND OF KIND OF LOOK AT IT.

YOUR TOTAL TAX RATE WAS 0.5762.

IT HAD BEEN 5, 5, 6 5.

BUT WE WENT AT 1.9 SOMETHING TO COVER THE $30 MILLION BOND.

SHE GONNA MAKE A COPY OF THAT.

I GAVE YOU A COPY OF THE BUDGET BOOK.

OKAY.

WHEN YOU CAME INTO OFFICE AND IT HAS THAT SHEET.

BUT IF YOU NEED THAT, I'LL MAKE TO FILE NO PROBLEM.

PROBABLY WOULDN'T HURT.

WE DON'T HAVE TO PUT, I DON'T HAVE IT WITH YOU.

OKAY.

YOU MAKE A LOT BETTER IF WE HAVE A COPY OF OKAY.

SHE'S GETTING NO, LET ME GO AND TELL HER I NEED THESE.

I BE RIGHT BACK.

ONE OTHER LITTLE ISSUE THAT WE'RE GOING NEED TO MAKE A DECISION ON PROBABLY SOMETIME PRETTY SOON THIS YEAR, REMEMBER THE LAST THREE YEARS WE'VE APPLIED FOR THAT, CAPITAL CREDITS, ELECTRIC CO-OPS.

OKAY.

WELL, UH, VERY AN ELECTRICAL, YOU GET A CREDIT BACK BECAUSE IT'S A CO-OP.

YOU YEAH.

AND SO WHAT HAPPENS IS THEY HAVE UNPLANNED CRITICS THAT ARE NOT CLAIMED BY PEOPLE AND THERE PEOPLE PRIMARILY WITH, AND SO WHAT HAPPENS IF WE DON'T CLAIM THAT THEY ALLOW STATE OF TEXAS? WELL, MY UNDERSTANDING, WE'VE NEVER STARTED PLAYING.

I DIDN'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT IT UNTIL WE DID.

OKAY.

FIRST YEAR WE GOT ABOUT 300.

LAST YEAR WE GOT 35,000.

YEAH.

THIS YEAR WE GOT 165,000.

BUT IT'S SPECIFIC ABOUT WHAT IT CAN BE USED FOR.

AND ONE OF THE THINGS WHAT WE DID, OKAY, NO, I DIDN'T, I DON'T THINK SO.

IT IS SPECIFIC ABOUT WHAT IT COULD USED AND WHAT ONE OF THE THINGS IT HAD IN THERE THAT VERY EASY TO SEE WAS THE CHILDREN ADVOCACY.

AND LAST YEAR WE GAVE ALL 35,000 TO CHILDREN'S, BUT IT CAN BE USED FOR WOMEN OWNED, UH, AND BUSINESS AND, BUT IT CAN ALSO BE USED FOR COUNTY ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PURPOSES.

REALLY? YEAH.

AND UH, I DON'T THINK THEY HAVE TO BE, I THINK THAT'S ANY, I DON'T THINK IT HAS TO BE TIED TO A WOMEN OR A MINORITY.

SO YOU WOULD THINK IT WOULD BE SINCE THEY WELL, I MAY BE WRONG.

I I'M JUST GOING WHAT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT SEEMS LIKE THEY DO AND EVERYTHING ATTACHED TO IT.

YEAH.

BUT I KNOW WHEN SOME OF OUR OTHER AGENCIES, WE KNOW LIKE GENESIS CENTER AND SOME OF THE OTHER, YOU KNOW, CHILDREN AND I'M NOT SURE THEY'RE INCLUDED TO BE HONEST.

BUT I, AND IT MAY BE THAT WE, UH, AND WE'LL HAVE TO GET AN INTERPRETATION, BUT SEE IF THERE'S ANY AG OPINION THERE.

BUT IT MAY BE THAT WE WANT YOU GO AHEAD AND CONTRIBUTE SOME JOB, YOU KNOW, THAT ARE, BUT IT MAY BE WE WANNA SET UP A SEPARATE FUND OR SOMETHING FOR CAN YOU, CAN YOU DISTRIBUTE, SAY DISTRIBUTE THIS YEAR, PUT IT IN FUND, MAINTAIN THE BALANCE YEAR? THAT I DON'T THINK, I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY REQUIREMENT THAT SOMETIMES IF YOU GET INTO ORGANIZATION OR ANY KIND MONEY, THEN THEY DEPEND NEXT YEAR WHAT WE'RE TRYING NOT TO DO IS BUDGET A TEMPORARY

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CHANGE.

YEAH.

AND IF WE DO THAT, I'M JUST SAYING IT BE A GOOD THING TO SAY, WELL YOU, IT MIGHT NOT YEAR WE PUT IT INTO A, WE CAN HANG OUT THAT AND GET TO THE NEXT YEAR.

WELL, AND THE OTHER THING, AND I THINK THAT'S GOOD IDEA AND THAT THE COURT HAS, YOU KNOW, YOU WANNA SAYING THAT, YOU KNOW, UNLESS WE FIND SOMETHING BETTER.

BUT I'M JUST SAYING IF WE WANT TO SUPPORT THAT, SUPPORT IT FOR THREE YEARS OUT ONE YEAR AND THEN THE NEXT YEAR IF WE GET THAT PLACE SUPPORT WORK DONE ON , WELL WE'VE HAD SOME ROOF DONE OUT THERE.

COULD WE THAT WELL, I THINK THE INCREASE, AND I'M SURE WHAT WE THOUGHT WE REALLY NEED USE PRE TRIMMING OUT THERE TO RUSH ANYTHING I WAS MAKING THEY SOME REMODEL OR SOMETHING.

WELL, AND THEN I HAVEN'T, YOU KNOW, I HAVEN'T HEARD, BUT I, AGAIN, THIS LAW IS SO SPECIFIC YEAH.

ABOUT HOW IT HAS, YOU KNOW, WHAT IT CAN BE SPENT ON.

I'M TELL ABOUT EDC.

WELL, I AM TOO.

I'M SURE THAT CAN BE USED, BUT THAT COULD HELP US GET SOME INDUSTRY IN HERE.

THE OTHER THING, AND I DON'T KNOW WHETHER THIS IS AT ALL, UH, LEGAL, BUT RIGHT NOW, Y'ALL KNOW WHAT PROJECT VENUS IS? YEAH, THAT'S RIGHT.

RIGHT NOW WE BUDGET ABOUT, UH, IT WAS A TAX ABATEMENT THAT WE GAVE YEARS AGO.

WHENEVER ALL WAS ON YOU PROBABLY, AND INSTEAD OF THE WAY IT WORKS, INSTEAD OF US NOT GETTING THE TAX MONEY, LIKE, YOU KNOW, WE'D GET 90% OR 80% OR WHATEVER THE ABATE WAS.

THE WAY THIS ONE WORKS, AND I'M NOT SURE I UNDERSTOOD ALL WHY THEY DID IT WAY, BUT WE ACTUALLY BUDGET OUT OUR MO BUDGET.

15, 20,000 A YEAR, UH, FOR PROJECT VEN.

SO YOU RECALL? NO, THAT'S MORE THAN THAT.

UH, WE PAID THIS LAST YEAR WAS THE LAST YEAR WE PAID 'EM 60% BACK ON WHAT THEY PAID AND IT DROPPED TO 50.

YEAH, YOU'RE THINKING OF THE TIP.

OKAY.

YEAH.

BUT WE DO PAY PROJECT THEN.

I MEAN, WE DO PAY.

YEAH, WE DID PAY THEM BACK.

YEAH.

SO I'M WONDERING IF WE COULD USE A PORTION OF THAT, AND I DON'T KNOW WHETHER WE CAN OR NOT, BUT A PORTION OF THIS TO MAKE PAYMENT AND WE ALL THIS, YOU KNOW, ALL THIS.

SO ANYWAY, THAT'S JUST STUFF.

OKAY.

IF Y'ALL GET THAT, THAT SHEET THAT I HAVE IN THE BUDGET BOOK FOR YOU REAL QUICK, I'LL MAKE IT SHORT AND SWEET.

I HAVE TO, YES.

DID YOU GET YOUR GLASSES ON, SIR? I ALL RIGHT.

THE SHEET THAT I JUST COPIED FOR YOU RIGHT THERE, IT SHOWS YOU THAT THE FREEZE ADJUSTED TAXABLE VALUE APPROVED, THAT WAS WITH THE CERTIFIED RIGHT.

NEW ROLE WAS THE 5 BILLION 5 1 16.

IF YOU WILL LOOK, THERE'S TWO SHEETS YOU NEED TO WATCH FOR.

ONE HAS TO DO WITH KAUFFMAN COUNTY AND ONE HAS TO DO WITH ROAD AND BRIDGE.

MM-HMM .

SO THERE'S TWO DIFFERENT TAXABLE RATES AND IT WOULD APPEAR AN ACTIVE DEBT SERVICE.

YEAH.

THE, UH, FREEZE ADJUSTED TAXABLE IS 5,816 MILLION.

ROAD AND BRIDGE IS A LITTLE BIT LESS THAN THE ACTUAL HAWKIN COUNTY.

AND UH, BY, NOT BY MUCH MAYBE ABOUT 9,000.

WHY IS THAT? THAT, UH, IT DEPENDS ON, UH, THE, UM, WHAT DO YOU CALL IT? SOME OF THE AG STUFF AND THEN THE ONES THAT Y'ALL GIVE PEOPLE, UH, IF THEY'RE OVER 65 AND AND STUFF.

IT DEPENDS ON HOW THE, THE PROPERTY IS ASSESSED AND WHAT EXEMPTIONS IT HAS FILED AGAINST IT.

DO YOU HAVE A, UH, LIKE THE, UH, SAY'S THE, THE 10TH, SEE, THEY'RE NOT GONNA PAY ANY, UM, PROPERTY TAXES, BUT THEY'RE GONNA PAY ROAD AND BRIDGE.

SO THAT SHOULD, THAT SHOULD BRING DRAWBACK.

YEAH.

AND SO THAT SHOULD BRING THAT BACK UP.

WELL, WE'LL JUST HAVE TO SEE.

YEAH.

WHEN HE, HE CERTIFIES THIS IS ONLY A PRELIMINARY THAT TOP OF THAT SAYS PRELIMINARY.

RIGHT.

SO PAY

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ATTENTION TO THAT TILL WE ACTUALLY GET THE CERTIFIED PROPER.

I LIKE THAT.

YEAH, YOU PROBABLY SHOULD.

SO YOU UNDERSTAND WHERE I GET THOSE NUMBERS.

ALRIGHT.

I, THE, UH, WHAT'S THE OTHER SERVICE STATION THAT'S OUT THERE? QT IS, NO, THEY'RE PAYING THE FULL RIDE.

UT DOESN'T DO THAT.

WHERE THEY GO FULL I INDUSTRIES OVER THERE, I THINK.

PLUS WE'VE GOT SOME EXPANSION GOING ON AND UH, WE GOT A BATTERY COMPANY, NOT SHUT COMPANY.

I THINK IT IS COMING IN BATTERY ON ROAD.

THEY BEEN DOING SOME STUFF OUT HERE ALREADY.

TWO OR THREE THINGS HAPPENING OVER THERE.

YEAH, I THINK NEY GOT A, SOME KIND OF A, SOMETHING GOING ON TOO OVER THERE WITH, I DON'T EVEN REMEMBER NOW.

THAT'S LIKE 300 EMPLOYEES.

IT'S PRETTY BIG, PRETTY BIG DEAL.

WHICH IS ALL GOOD.

BUT THEY'LL ALL BE COMING, YOU KNOW, WITH THEIR HAND OUT, GETTING BACK UP OUT CAY ALL.

JUDGE, THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.

WE DON'T WANT TO DETER JUSTICE.

SO WANTS YOU TO, UH, WE'VE GOT YOUR BUDGET AND, UH, THE WAY IT APPEARS, YOU HAVE NOT ASKED FOR ANY, UH, INCREASE AS FAR AS YOUR REGULAR BUDGET.

WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT DOING ANYTHING YET ON SALARIES OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

ONE OF THE REASONS WE'VE GOTTA, WE'RE TRYING TO WAIT AND SEE WHAT OUR HEALTH INSURANCE COSTS.

THAT'S ALWAYS A BIG DRIVER FOR, SO WE'RE DOING THAT, BUT WE'RE NOT DOING ANYTHING ON, UH, SALARY INCREASES OTHER THAN THE WE, YOU KNOW, WE HOPE LEAVE OR SOMETHING IN THAT REGARD, BUT IT'S PRETTY EARLY AS FAR.

SO, UH, Y'ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? HE'S, HE, THERE'S NO CHANGE OR QUESTION.

JUDGE, YOU GOT ANYTHING YOU WANT SAY BEFORE WE, UH, START WITH YOUR, YOURS IS PRETTY CUT AND DRY.

I'M LOOKING OVER AND, UH, I WAS VERY LITTLE SATISFIED WITH LAST YEAR, SO I JUST LET IT RIDE.

OKAY.

AND I KNOW YOU GUYS, UH, IF WE HEARD THE OTHER AS YOU GUYS PUSHING A LOT OF CASES FOR YOUR, UH, COURT AND ALL OF THE, BUT WE, THAT, THAT'S A GOOD THING.

WELL, AND, AND, AND YOU KIND OF DOUBLE UP THE CATCH IN THE SPRINGTIME BECAUSE AS WE ALL KNOW, THE SUMMERTIME THINGS SLOW DOWN.

LEAST MY PART DOES BECAUSE WATER GO, POLICE OFFICERS GO VACATION, SO IT EVENS OUT OVER THE COURSE OF YEAR.

SO, UH, IT'S, I THINK, I THINK THEY, UH, LIKE, UH, RIGHT, UH, THE, UH, WE, THE INDIGENT DEFENSE BOARD HAS NOT MET YET ON THE INDIGENT DEFENSE OFFICE.

UH, AND, UH, I THINK WE MEET ON THE 24TH, FOURTH ON THAT BOARD FROM THE COURT.

AND, UH, I THINK WE FINALLY, YOU WERE ABLE TO GET ENOUGH PEOPLE TOGETHER.

SO THAT WAS LIKE EVERYBODY WAS GOING, EVERYBODY WAS GOING VACATIONS IN JUNE AND SO IT WAS KINDA LIKE, UH, YEAH, JUST GETTING EVERYBODY ROUNDED UP AND THAT'S HOW IT GOES HERE.

SO PEOPLE DO, YOU KNOW, TAKE OFF.

Y'ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE JUDGE? JUDGE JONES IS THE CHAIRMAN OF OUR ENGINE DEFENSE BOARD.

SO OVER HERE ON DIVERSION COURTS, EXPLAIN ALL THAT TO ME.

UH, I, WE RUN, I THINK ABOUT TWO OR THREE SO CALLED DIVERSION COURTS.

UH, AS IT IS MINE IS THE DWI DIVERSION COURT.

UH, JUDGE JUDY RUNS A, UH, UH, UH, DRUG SLASH MENTAL ILLNESS DIVERSION COURT.

AND, UH, FOR ME IN MY

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COURT, IT'S, UH, UH, FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE ON PROBATION FOR DWI, I NOT JUST ONE DI, BUT THEY'VE GOT A PROBLEM WITH ALCOHOL.

AND SO ONCE THEY GET ON PROBATION, UH, WE CAN EITHER SIGN THEM UP OR MAKE A CONDITION OF THEIR PROBATION IF THEY ATTEND DIVERSION COURT.

AND THAT IS, WE MEET ONCE A WEEK.

UH, AND, UH, THERE'S A DWI DIVERSION 14, WHICH CONSISTS OF TWO OR THREE DEPUTY SHERIFFS ME, UH, PROBATION OFFICER, UH, A-A-D-W-I COUNSELOR.

UH, AND WE MEET ONCE A WEEK AND WE GO OVER WHAT PROBLEMS THEY'RE HAVING, HOW THEY'RE DOING ON DWI OR HOW THEY'RE DOING WITH ALCOHOL.

UM, THEN WHENEVER A WEEK FINISH UP WITH MY LITTLE MEETING WAS TUESDAY LAST ABOUT 30 TO 45 MINUTES.

THEN THE, UH, COUNCIL NEEDS, OKAY, HERE WE GOT 38 6 2, HE'S GOT PAY TO COME TO THE COURT.

NO, THAT, I THINK THAT MONEY, UH, GOT DONATED BACK.

REMEMBER JUDGE LEY WAS THE, UH, JUDGE AND IT WAS ATED BY FIXING FIVE ORGANIZATION.

SO THEY HAVE TO PAY A DIVERSION COURT.

IT COST THEM MONEY PAYING PROBATION UPFRONT, NOT, BUT I THINK IT'S $400 TO GET IN AND THEN THEY HAVE TO PAY FOR, UH, THEIR, UH, WHAT THAT UNIFORM THAT GET.

NO, IT'S JUST A WAY OF TRYING TO GET THEM ALL CONDITION.

WELL WE, WE, THAT'S THE INCENTIVE TO GET THEM OF JOY.

OKAY.

YEAH.

ALL THESE PEOPLE.

SO IT'S KIND OF LIKE GOING TO A A A OR WHATEVER AND, AND, AND GIVING 'EM HELP, BASICALLY MAKING THEM MAKE 'EM SIGN UP TO RECOGNIZE, THINK ABOUT 50% OF THE TIME, I MEAN, ONCE THEY GRADUATE, IT'S A YEAR'S STROKE.

ONCE THEY GRADUATE AFTER A YEAR, I'D SAY ABOUT, UH, HALF TO 65% OF THEM STAY OFF ALCOHOL.

THE OTHER HALF .

YEAH.

OTHER HALF CAN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT.

BUT NONE OF THESE FUNDS IN THIS ESTIMATED ANY BALANCE COME FROM IN PAYING, UH, I DON'T DUNNO WHETHER THE INITIAL GETS DONATED INTO THAT.

I DON'T, I DON'T THINK IT DOES BECAUSE WHO'S GOTTA PAY THAT COUNSELOR? SO THAT'S WHERE THIS MONEY BEING SPENT IS YOU PAYING COUNSELORS.

THE OUTTA 8,000, THE EIGHT WAS ME, THAT AND, UH, THEN WE HAVE, UH, A GRADUATION PARTY TWICE A YEAR.

I JUST, I WAS JUST CURIOUS HOW THEY GOT, I JUST YEAH.

THE SAME AMOUNT AS BUDGETED FOR 15 TO 16.

AND IF THAT'S FROM MONEY COMING IN, HOW DO YOU KNOW WHAT THE ENDING BALANCE IS GONNA BE FOR 16? YEAH.

I WOULD THINK, UH, I'M PRETTY SURE IT ALL STAY THE SAME.

YEAH, THAT'S, THAT'S WHERE IT'S MY QUESTION.

YEAH.

THAT'S, THAT'S BECAUSE THEY HAVE SPENT A LOT OF MONEY.

IF YOU'LL LOOK IN 2013, THEY SPENT 11,406.

2014 THEY ONLY SPENT 89 0 1.

SO WE BUDGETED 8,000.

AS OF APRIL, THEY'VE ONLY SPENT $670 AND 99 CENTS.

RIGHT.

NO.

ALL RIGHT.

THERE IS SOME MONEY THAT DOES COME IN.

I THINK IT'S A FIVE OR $10 FEE.

UH, WE DON'T HAVE THE REVENUE SIDE DONE YET BECAUSE WE ALWAYS WAIT FOR LATER TO GET THE REVENUES DONE.

SO WE HAVE UP TO DATE, WE'LL CHANGE THESE DATES AND THE NUMBERS ON THE REPORTS SO YOU'LL SEE A MORE UPTODATE AMOUNTS THAT ACTUALLY DID.

THAT'S GOOD.

PARDON? YEAH.

I DID NOT HAVE AN ACTUAL AS OF FOUR 30 I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND.

WHILE IT WASN'T ANY EXPENSE ON THE ESTIMATED ENDING.

YEAH.

BECAUSE HE HADN'T NEEDED IT.

I WOULD ONLY COME TO, I WOULD ONLY COME TO THE COURT AND ASK TO MOVE MONEY FROM THAT ESTIMATED IF HE HAD SPENT OVER 8,000.

SO HE GETS TO CARRY THAT FORWARD EVERY YEAR THEN? YES, SIR.

OKAY, GOOD.

BUT HE ONLY TO BE SPENT ON THAT DIVERSION COURT.

YES.

OKAY.

EXCUSE ME.

IT'S A GOOD PROGRAM.

I MEAN I'VE, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, BEING, DOING WHAT WE DO, THERE'S NOT TOO MANY, UH, GOOD.

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THERE'S NOT TOO MANY HAPPY MOMENTS.

RIGHT.

BUT THESE, THESE TYPES OF DEALS WHERE THEY GRADUATE AFTER BEING SOBER FOR A YEAR, IT'S 15.

GONNA TELL JUDGE JONES, I KNOW WHEN, UH, JUDGE WILEY HAD THAT WHEN THEY HAD LIKE THE LITTLE GRADUATION PARTY MM-HMM .

UH, WE WOULD SEND AND GET, UH, GIFT CARDS LIKE $25 GIFT CARDS TO GIVE THE ONES THAT HAD GRADUATED.

DO YOU STILL DO THAT? STILL DO THAT? MM-HMM .

OKAY.

AND WE KIND OF UP UP, WE HAVE A NEW PROGRAM.

WE IMPLEMENT A NEW PROGRAM, UH, ABOUT THREE OR FOUR MONTHS AGO.

AND, UH, WE DON'T JUST LIMIT IT TO GRADUATION.

UH, WE DO IT FOR, UM, UH, FOR UP A RAFFLE.

IF THEY DO GOOD FOR THREE MONTHS WHILE THEY'RE IN THE PROGRAM, THEY GIVE THEM, UH, A 20 WALMART CARD.

OKAY.

WE PUT EVERYBODY IN THE HAT, WHOEVER WINS THE CARD.

IT'S JUST AN INCENTIVE TO GET THEM TO, UH, KEEP, KEEP DOING GOOD.

OKAY.

IT'S LIKE I SAY, THAT'S THE PURPOSE OF IT ON FRIDAY.

ALRIGHT, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR JUDGE OR JUDGE? SOMETHING, UH, MAY NOT APPLY TO YOU GUYS BECAUSE I THINK ALL OF YOU FOLKS FOR HERE THAT EX, WE PUT THAT FOUR PUT, THAT WAS GOOD.

THE BARBECUE WAS GOOD.

GOOD JOB.

THEY KNEW THAN I THOUGHT THEY DID.

THEY EXTENSION SERVICES.

IT, IT'S NOT JUST TECHNIC AGRICUL STUFF.

I WAS TALKING SOME LITTLE GIRL THERE WHO DOES, UH, DEBATE MM-HMM .

IN WASHINGTON DC HAD NO IDEA.

SHE'S SHARP GIRL.

YES.

SHE'S SO, UH, CONGRATS TO THOSE PEOPLE.

PUT THAT ON.

THERE'S LOTS OF GOOD THINGS.

STILL GET THAT.

DON'T GET RECOGNIZED.

SEE WHAT ALL THEY DID.

OKAY.

I TOLD PUT THANK APPRECIATE OH, THE BARBECUE COMING FROM DANNY'S.

OH YEAH.

DANNY'S DONE PLATE.

OKAY, JUDGE, ON THE HOT SEAT HERE, IT LOOKS, IT DOESN'T LOOK TOO HOT.

CHAIR.

WE GO GET A MARKS SLOT AND PUT A STATE ENVELOPE ON .

ALRIGHT.

JUDGE, YOUR BUDGET IS PRETTY WELL THE SAME, UH, THAT YOU'VE HAD.

AND, UH, AS I TOLD JUDGE JONES, WE JUST, UH, UH, WE'RE NOT LOOKING, REALLY LOOKING AT SALARIES RIGHT NOW FOR US.

THAT'LL COME LATER, AFTER, AFTER WE KIND OF SEE WHERE WE ARE MONEY WISE AND INCOME WISE FROM THE COUNTY.

UH, WHAT WE WERE LOOKING FOR WAS ANY, UH, EXTRAORDINARY EXPENSES THAT WE MAYBE HADN'T BUDGETED FOR IN THE PAST THAT WERE REALLY NEEDS THAT WERE JUSTIFIED.

AND, UH, IT LOOKS LIKE YOU'RE, YOU'RE PRETTY PLEASED WITH, UH, WHERE YOUR BUDGET IS.

I, I AM.

UM, YOU WANNA CUT IT A LITTLE BIT? I KNOW.

WELL, HE DID OVER ON THE BACK.

WELL, I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT THAT, BUT IT HAS TO DO WITH SALARIES.

BUT I, SO I DON'T KNOW IF SURE, GO AHEAD AND JUST HAVE OKAY.

YOUR THOUGHTS, BUT WE NEED TO HEAR THAT EVERYTHING IS GREAT.

I, I DON'T HAVE ANY ISSUE WITH ANYTHING.

THE ONLY THING IS, UH, BAILEY MCCORMICK, WHO IS MY COURT COORDINATOR, SHE WAS A PART-TIME, UM, LAW LIBRARIAN BACK IN LAST FISCAL YEAR BEFORE SHE TOOK OVER EMILY'S PLACES COURT COORDINATOR FROM JANUARY 1ST OF THIS YEAR.

SO SHE'S NOW MY FULL-TIME COORDINATOR.

BUT IN THE PAST SHE HAD BEEN THE LAW LIBRARY AND WORKING PART-TIME AND BEING PAID OUT THE EXTRA HELP, UM, ON THE LAW LIBRARY.

I THINK SOME ADDITIONAL MONEY WAS COMING TO HER, UH, AS A HELPING EMILY OUT AS A COURT COORDINATOR BECAUSE SHE WAS MAKING 12 AN HOUR.

AND SO SHE'S BEEN DOING THE COORDINATOR POSITION AND THE LAW LIBRARY POSITION SINCE JANUARY 1ST WITHOUT ANY ADDITIONAL MONEY.

UM, AND SO WHAT I WAS GONNA PROPOSE, OR AT LEAST LET YOU GUYS THINK ABOUT IT, IS I WAS GONNA CUT THE EXTRA HELP BUDGET FROM 15,000

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TO 10,000 AND SEE IF WE COULD JUST PAY HER A LITTLE BIT EXTRA ON THE GROSS SPEND, UH, OUT OF THAT FOR THE, THAT SHE DOES ON THE LAW LIBRARY.

SHE STAYS AFTER WORK SOME AND DOES A FEW HOURS OF THAT EACH WEEK.

YOU TALKING ABOUT JUST MOVING, MOVING, MOVING THE, WELL, NO, I'M NOT ASKING HER TO RECEIVE $5,000.

I, I'M CUTTING THAT BUDGET 5,000 TO, SO MY EXTRA HELP BUDGET WOULD BE 10.

AND THEN OUT OF THAT 10, UM, PAY HER, PAY HER, UM, ABOUT, ABOUT THREE A YEAR ADDITIONAL.

IT STILL COMES OUT A LOT.

I, I GUESS, I GUESS THE NET WOULD BE THAT I'M CUTTING MY EXTRA HELP BUDGET BY, BY 2000 IF, IF I CUT MY FIVE AND PAY HER THREE.

IS THAT BAILEY DAY? YES, IT IS BAILEY.

IT'S BAILEY MCCORMICK NOW.

MCCORMICK.

OKAY.

HER NAME IS CHANGED.

YES.

BAILEY MCC.

SO ON, ON THIS SHEET, UH, SHE'S THE COURT COORDINATOR THAT MAKES, UM, 43 8 88.

WELL, NO, SHE DOESN'T ACTUALLY, THAT'S NOT RIGHT ON THIS SALARY SHEET.

IT'S GOT, UH, 38 6 0 6 SHE MAKES, OKAY.

WHEN EMILY WAS THERE IN THE BUDGET, WE HAD MERIT AND LONGEVITY.

LONGEVITY AND A BASE THAT MADE UP THE 43 88.

8 88 JANUARY WHEN SHE LEFT.

AND, UH, BAILEY COME ON.

SHE, SHE'S AT 38 6 0 6.

SO THERE IS SAVINGS IN THAT LINE ITEM.

OH, THIS DID CORRECT BUDGET BOOK THAT, THAT SHOULD, INSTEAD OF 4 3 8 88, IT SHOULD BE 38 6 0 6.

IT SHOULD BE NOW, RIGHT? IT SHOULD BE NOW.

BUT IF EMILY WOULD'VE STAYED, SHE WOULD'VE MADE THAT YOU HAVEN'T SEEN HERE.

I KNOW, BUT I HAVEN'T PRODUCED THAT BUDGET YET BECAUSE JUDGE RICHARD COME AND TALKED TO ME ABOUT INCREASE IN BAILEY'S AND I WAS WAITING TO SEE WHAT THE COURT WOULD APPROVE, BUT I YOU'RE NOT PROPOSING THAT WE DO THAT NOW.

YOU JUST, WHENEVER WE GET TO THE NEW BUDGET, WELL, IT, IT IS UP TO Y'ALL.

WHERE, WHERE ARE YOU GOING TO DO JUDGE? UM, SHE'S BEEN WORKING JANUARY 1ST UP NOW DOING THE LAW LIBRARY WITHOUT ANY EXTRA PAY.

BUT, UH, IF, IF WE WANNA, WE UP THE NEW BUDGET.

WHAT'S UP TO THE, IS THAT OR, UH, LAURIE, I JUST WANNA MAKE ONE COMMENT IN, IN, I'VE SPOKE WITH JUDGE RICH ABOUT THIS AND BECAUSE SHE'S AN EXEMPT EMPLOYEE, SHE DOESN'T RECEIVE ANY EXTRA HOURS.

SO SHE'S STAYING, SHE'S NOT WORKING ON THE LI LAW LIBRARY FROM EIGHT TO FIVE.

SHE COMES EARLY OR SHE STAYS LATE.

AND BECAUSE SHE'S EXEMPT, SHE DOES NOT RECEIVE COMP TIME FOR THAT.

SO SHE'S WORKING EXTRA HOURS AND RECEIVING NO ADDITIONAL PAY.

NOW LET ME, LET ME SAY THIS.

SO, SO BE, GET A CLARIFICATION, SHE DOES HAVE TO TALK TO THE VENDORS, THE LAW LIBRARY VENDORS READ BUY BOOKS.

SHE HAS TO TALK TO THEM DURING DAYS TO FIVE BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT AROUND AFTER FIVE O'CLOCK.

SO THE CONVERSATIONS AND, AND PURCHASING BOOKS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

SHE DOES HAVE TO DO THAT BETWEEN EIGHT AND FIVE.

AND SHE'S NOT ASKING FOR COMPENSATION FOR THAT, THAT'S JUST PART OF THE JOB.

NO, SHE'S JUST ASKING FOR YEAH, THAT'S RIGHT.

FOR AFTER THE, THE FIVE O'CLOCK.

SO WHAT DOES SHE EXACTLY, WHAT DOES SHE DO? LAW LIBRARY.

THE LAW LIBRARY BOOKS COME IN.

THE NEW ONES.

UH, SHE HAS TO UPDATE 'EM.

SHE HAS TO GO IN IN THE AFTERNOON AND PUT THE POCKET PARTS IN.

UM, LET'S SEE.

I THINK WHILE WE'RE LOOKING, KAREN, DO WE PAY ANY OF OUR LAWYER WE PAY ANY OF HER SALARY OUT OF THE LAW LIBRARY? NO, NOT NOW.

OKAY.

WE SURE DON'T BEFORE, BUT SHE CAME PART BEFORE SHE EVEN FULL-TIME, SHE WAS PAID OUTTA THE LAW LIBRARY.

OKAY.

UM, OUTTA THE LAW LIBRARY IF IT'S PERMISSIBLE.

THAT'S WHAT I WAS ON, I GUESS.

UH, SHE, SHE WORKS REALLY, REALLY HARD AND SHE HAS A GOOD ATTITUDE.

UH, JUDGE RICH AND THE LAW LIBRARY HAS SAVED THE COUNTY MONEY REGARDING, WE USED TO HAVE TO BUDGET FOR THE DA'S LAW BOOKS, ALL THE JUDGE'S LAW BOOKS.

AND HE HAS LET THE LAW LIBRARY PICK UP SOME OF THAT COST.

I KNOW WHEN THE DA CAME ON BOARD, SHE NEEDED NEW BOOKS AND IT WAS LIKE ALMOST $8,000 AND UM, THE LAW LIBRARY PAID FOR.

YES.

PLUS I THINK WE'VE ADDED ANOTHER COMPUTER UP THERE TOO.

WE YES.

SOME DESK AND COMPUTER.

SHE ALSO WAS NOT HERE TO GET THE $1,200 LAST YEAR.

SO SHE'S MAKING 1200 THAN THE OTHER 1200 LESS THAN THE OTHER THREE ALSO.

AND I DON'T WANNA PUT MYSELF IN THAT POSITION.

NO INFORMATION WE NEED TO HEAR.

NO, NO, NO.

WHAT I'M SPEAKING OF IS THERE, THERE'S EXTRA HELP RIGHT NOW.

15,000 IN THE LAW LIBRARY.

YES, SIR.

I DON'T KNOW.

I MEAN, I'M OPEN TO EVEN DROPPING THAT TO A LESSER AMOUNT.

I, UNLESS LORI AND KAREN KNOWS SOMETHING DIFFERENT, I MEAN, I, UM, I, I DON'T, I DON'T ANTICIPATE, UH, I

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I GUESS IF SOMETHING HAPPENED THAT BAILEY COULDN'T DO THAT IN THE FUTURE, WE HAD TO PAY A PART-TIME HELP.

THAT MAY BE A CONSIDERATION.

BUT BEYOND THAT, I, I DON'T KNOW.

WE HAD DISCUSSED IT, UH, BEFORE WITH, UH, JUDGE LEWIS, JUDGE RICH, THAT THE PERSON HE PUT IN THAT POSITION AT ONE TIME, HE, HE WANTED A FULL-TIME PER PERSON, BUT IT WASN'T GONNA BE FULL-TIME LAW LIBRARY.

75% IN HIS GENERAL FUND BUDGET, 25% IN THE LAW LIBRARY.

AND WE BUDGETED FOR THAT.

BUT IT NEVER HAPPENED.

IF YOU'LL REMEMBER THAT JUDGE WOOD, UH, HE WOUND UP JUST KEEPING SOMEBODY THERE AND HIRING SOMEBODY PART-TIME TO WORK.

THE, THE PROBLEM IS WE NEED TO KNOW WHOEVER YOU HIRE OR WHOEVER YOU PUT IN THAT POSITION, IF THEY'RE WORKING IN THE GENERAL FUND, ALSO WE HAVE TO KNOW THE PERCENTAGE OF THEIR TIME THAT THEY SPEND IN THE LAW LIBRARY.

SO WE CAN SET THE PAYROLL SYSTEM WHERE WE PUT IN 40 HOURS A WEEK, 75% WOULD GO TO GENERAL FUND, 25% OF IT WOULD GO TO THE LAW LIBRARY.

SO THEN IT'S SCHEDULED RIGHT.

TO HIT THOSE LINE ITEMS WHEN WE NEED IT TO.

WELL, DOES THE LAW LIBRARY HAVE A HUGE BALANCE IN IT? LAW LIBRARY HAS A HUGE, HUGE BALANCE IN IT, BUT YOU CAN ONLY USE IT FOR CERTAIN THINGS.

THAT'S THE PROBLEM.

CAN THAT BE USED TO SUPPLEMENT THEIR SALARY? YEAH, IF, IF YOU PAY HER FROM THE LAW LIBRARY, AT LEAST IF SHE QUITS DOING IT, THEN SHE QUITS GETTING MONEY.

YEAH.

IF YOU PUT IT IN YOUR BUDGET TO RAISE HER A PAY YEAH.

TO WORK IN IT, THEN, THEN SHE QUITS DOING THAT.

OR YOU GOING TO GIVE HER A PAY CUT? I MEAN THAT WOULD BE ROUGH TO DO, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, YEAH.

OKAY.

TO ME, SHE DESERVES TO MAKE MORE.

I MEAN, I, I'VE ONLY MET HER ONE TIME.

OKAY.

SO IT'S NOT, 'CAUSE SHE'S MY BEST FRIEND, UH, TO KEEP HER FROM WORKING HOURS THAT SHE'S NOT GETTING COMP TIME OR PAID FOR.

IT MIGHT BE GOOD TO GET THE COURT WITH THEIR APPROVAL TO BUMP HER UP BECAUSE YOU ALREADY HAVE IT IN THE BUDGET AND THEN HIRE HER SOMEBODY PART-TIME TO KIND OF HELP HER DURING THE DAY.

THAT WOULD ELIMINATE HER HAVING TO WORK BEFORE EIGHT AND AFTER FIVE.

I MEAN, THAT'S JUST A SUGGESTION.

'CAUSE I'M GONNA TELL YOU SOMETHING.

THIS IRS AUDIT THAT WE WENT THROUGH, WE'RE NOT THROUGH YET.

AND THEY HAVE CAUGHT SOME THINGS AND SOME EMPLOYEES ARE NOT GONNA BE REAL HAPPY WHEN WE CHANGE WHAT WE HAVE TO DO.

BUT WE HAVE TO MAKE IT LEGAL.

IT IS INTERESTING THAT SHE BRINGS IT UP.

'CAUSE UH, I, I HADN'T EVEN TALKED TO KAREN ABOUT THAT.

THERE'S A YOUNG MAN THAT JUST, UH, GRADUATED FROM COLLEGE AND FIXING TO GO TO TULSA LAW SCHOOL AND HE WANTED DOING AN INTERNSHIP AT MY COURT.

HE CALLED ME, INTERVIEWED WITH ME, AND I I I TALKED TO, CHECKED WITH JUDGE CHI AND A FEW OTHER PEOPLE AND SAID, WELL, HE CAN DO THAT, BUT WE CAN'T PAY FOR HIM.

AND HE'S JUST WANTING TO LEARN.

SEEMS LIKE A GOOD KID.

AND HIS MAIN ABSOLUTELY ESCAPES ME AT THE MOMENT.

BUT, UH, HE MIGHT BE GOOD TO WORK, WORK TO SOMEBODY LIKE THAT HELPING BAILEY OUT THE LAW LIBRARY.

I MEAN, THAT'S A POSSIBILITY.

I WE JUST PAID HIM ON A PER HOUR BASIS.

YES.

AND YOU'D WANNA WORK HIM SO MANY HOURS SO THAT WAY, YOU KNOW, HE WOULDN'T BE A FULL-TIME PERSON.

YEAH.

I THINK THAT'S A BETTER IDEA ALL THE WAY AROUND.

DOESN'T OUR PERSONNEL POLICY SAY THAT YOU CAN'T WORK IN TWO DEPARTMENTS OF THE COUNTY? YEAH.

UM, THE ONLY ONE THAT WE'VE EVER HAD IS A LAW LIBRARY BECAUSE IT WAS ALWAYS THE PERSON THAT WORKED IN THE COUNTY COURT AT LAW COURT AND THAT'S WHO OVERSAW THE LAW LIBRARY.

SO WE'VE ALWAYS KIND OF SPLIT BAILEY'S.

SHE'S ALWAYS, SHE'S THE ONLY ONE.

WELL, AND THE HISTORY ON THIS GOES BACK TO ERIC WHEAT BECAUSE ERIC AT ONE TIME WAS OVER THE LAW LIBRARY.

HE WAS ACTUALLY APPOINTED BY THE BAR, I THINK.

AND, UH, WELL I GUESS BY THE COURT TOO.

UH, BUT THAT'S WHENEVER WAS SET OFF BECAUSE THERE, YOU KNOW, THERE'S STILL ANOTHER CASE PENDING ON HIM IN THE, UH, IN THE COURT.

YEAH.

SO THAT'S WHEN THIS ALL KIND OF YOU SHOULD, I DON'T THINK, I DON'T THINK I'LL TRACK.

I DON'T I DON'T THINK IT POINT IT'S A POINT.

WELL I THINK IT WAS, I DON'T THINK IT, I THINK IT WASTING MONEY TOO.

I THINK THE DISTRICT JUDGES HAD RECOMMENDED TO THE COUNTY COURT AT LAW LEWIS JUDGE LEWIS TO HOLD OFF HIRING SOMEBODY FULL TIME BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T KNOW WHAT KIND OF LEGALITIES THEY WERE GOING TO GET INTO WHEN THAT HAD CAME UP.

THAT THERE WAS ANOTHER CASE.

AND SO THE, SO THE HISTORY OF THIS AND, AND SOME OF YOU ALREADY KNOW THIS, UM, BUT I WAS GONNA TAKE SOME OF THAT MONEY INITIALLY AND SPREAD IT AROUND TO THE OTHER COURT COORDINATORS BECAUSE I PROBABLY CREATED A PROBLEM.

BUT IT JUST, IT JUST HADN'T SEEM TO WORK OUT.

I MEAN IT, UM, I DON'T KNOW HOW WE WOULD SCHEDULE THAT.

UM, AND

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SO I I JUST SORT OF ABANDONED THAT IDEA.

WHEN YOU GOT EVERYBODY IN CHARGE, NOBODY'S IN CHARGE.

THAT'S RIGHT.

IT JUST SEEMED LIKE IT WAS TURNED INTO A, A BIG MESS.

I MEAN, I, WE, WE WERE I GUESS TRYING TO BE NICE AND KIND SPREAD IT WEALTH A LITTLE BIT, BUT IT IT DIDN'T WORK OUT.

IT GET IN TROUBLE.

YEAH, IT DOES.

SO, SO I JUST DECIDED TO COME IN HERE AND, AND TALK TO YOU GUYS ABOUT, UH, I WITH 15,000, THIS YOUNG MAN, PARTTIME GET YOU A PARTTIME, SOMEBODY THEN THIS HERE STOPS HER FROM STAN LATE OR WHATEVER.

YOU'VE GOT THE HELP MONEY.

IT COMES DOWN TO THE LAW LIBRARY.

SO PLENTY OF SALARY SHE AT, RIGHT? YEAH.

AND THEN WHEN WE COME BACK AND WORK ON SALARIES, I THINK WE NEED TO REMEMBER THIS BECAUSE WE'RE PROBABLY GONNA HAVE ANOTHER ONE THAT WE MADE ANOTHER COURT COORDINATOR.

CAN I MAKE A SUGGESTION, GENTLEMEN? HE'S, I, HE'S OUTVOTED, RIGHT? I CAN SAY SOMETHING .

I DON'T KNOW.

WE TOOK A VOTE.

WE TRY, WE TRY TO KEEP OUR COURT COORDINATORS AT THE SAME BASE.

WELL I KNOW THAT THAT THIS ONE, UH, HER BASE WASN'T THE SAME THAT THE OTHER ONES.

YES.

SO THAT'S WHAT I FIXING TO GET TO.

BUT NOW ONE OF 'EM DOES MAKE MORE BECAUSE THEY GET MERIT AND LONGEVITY.

RIGHT.

BUT THE BASE, SHE CAN'T HAVE THAT MERIT LONGEVITY BECAUSE THAT WAS EMILY'S AND THAT'S TAKEN AWAY.

OKAY.

WHEN A NEW PERSON COMES IN, IF YOU BUMPED HER TO THE 1200 BUMP HER 1200, THAT WOULD PUT HER AS THE SAME AS THE, THE OTHER COORDINATOR IN THAT THE SECOND COMMISSION, UH, COUNTY COURT AT LAW.

UH, YEAH.

ONE START 39 0 6.

YEAH.

TWO OF THE JPS.

WELL HERE'S THAT WAS, UH, THEY THEY DO A YEAH, BUT WE JUST BUMP SOME UP.

HERE'S THE OTHER ISSUE I DIDN'T BRING UP.

WE DID THAT IN, WE GAVE HIM A SUPPLEMENT LAST YEAR.

THIS YEAR THIS INTERN THAT'S CURRENTLY AT, I'M LOOKING AT THEN HE, HE'S ONLY GONNA BE A SUMMER INTERN.

SO THIS IS NOT, THAT'S OKAY.

THIS WOULD BE A PARTTIME SUMMER.

YOU HIRE SOMEBODY ELSE AFTER HIM.

I MEAN, YOU KNOW, WITH YOUR MONEY, YOU OKAY.

$15,000.

YOU'RE NOT ARGUING NOW.

I MEAN YOU THINK THAT THAT PART-TIME POSITION FOR THE WHOLE YEAR MORE THAN 15, THEN YOU'RE GOOD.

I MEAN, I LEAVE THAT IN THERE.

THAT'S JUST KIND OF A WELL, AND HE'S GOT A BIG BALANCE TO CARRY FORWARD.

IF HE NEEDED SOME MORE ADDITIONAL MONEY, HE'S, THEY'VE NEVER USED OVER 10,000.

SO THE ISSUE, SO THE ISSUE ABOUT THE 1200 BRINGING BAILEY UP TO THE BASE, THAT WELL, THAT'S WHAT I WAS GONNA ASK IF, IF WE DECIDED TO DO THAT.

NOW, CAN WE DO THAT WITHOUT COURT ACTION OR CAN IT BE DONE BY THROUGH, UH, BUT I KNOW WE'VE HAD SOME ISSUES WITH THAT CHANGE IN SALARIES DURING HERE.

YES OR NO.

I MEAN WE ON THE AGENDA THAT THE COURT WANTED TO DO THAT.

THE THING, THE THING I WOULD SUGGEST TO KEEP ANY TROUBLE DOWN IS LET ME EARMARK THAT AND IF THERE IS MONEY LEFT AND Y'ALL DECIDE TO GIVE EVERYBODY A RAISE, I PUT AN EXTRA 1200 FOR HER TO MAKE IT EQUAL EQUALIZED TO MAKE IT MAKE IT EQUALIZED.

THAT MAKES IT A LITTLE CLEANER TO DO IT THAT WAY.

WELL, ACCORDING TO THIS, SHE'S UH, BEEN EMPLOYED FOR 8.8.

I DUNNO IF IT'S EIGHT MONTHS OR EIGHT.

EIGHT TENTHS OF A YEAR.

I GUESS IT'S EIGHT TENTHS OF A YEAR.

AND THE OTHER COORDINATOR HAS BEEN HERE FOR 8.1 YEARS.

YEAH, LONGEVITY TOO.

YEAH.

WELL I'M TALKING BASE SALARY.

TALKING ABOUT BASE WAS THE, THE FAIR, THE BASE PAID TAKE 1200 FROM KATIE'S AND YOU GOT THE BASE.

I, I UNDERSTAND THAT.

BUT WHAT I'M SAYING IS, IS IT FAIR TO PAY SOMEBODY THAT'S BEEN HERE EIGHT YEARS, THE SAME AMOUNT THAT SOMEBODY THAT'S BEEN HERE EIGHT TENTHS OF THE YEAR, YOU KNOW THAT SINCE WE DON'T GIVE MARRIED, THAT'S WHY THEY GOT MARRIED LONGEVITY ANYMORE AND THAT'S WHY THEY GOT LONGEVITY TOO.

YEAH, I KNOW.

WE DON'T GIVE LONGEVITY ANYMORE.

THAT'S SOMETHING WE DON'T GET MARRIED.

DISCUSS MARRIED BOTH.

YEAH.

YOU KNOW, WHEN WE GOOD EMPLOYEES, WE GOTTA FIGURE OUT, OUT.

THAT'S A WAY TO RETAIN ON ON THAT, ON HER JOB.

ON THE COORDINATOR BEFORE HER, WAS SHE MAKING AS HIGH AS THE THE BASE? YES SIR.

TO ME, I DON'T KNOW WHY IT NEEDS APPROVE HERE.

IT LOOKS LIKE IT NEEDS THAT, UH, THAT'S, THAT THAT WAS IN THERE.

IN OTHER WORDS, THAT JOB DESCRIPTION ALREADY CARRIED THAT IT SHOULD HAVE CARRIED THE SAME BASE.

IT SHOULDA HAVE CARRIED THE SAME BASE, BUT SHE WAS NOT HERE THE AMOUNT OF TIME TO GET THE 1200 THAT EVERYBODY ELSE GOT.

THAT'S WHY SHE DIDN'T GET YOUR STIPULATION WAS THEY HAD TO HAVE BEEN HERE A CERTAIN TIME LAST YEAR.

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THAT'S WHERE DOES THE 1200 WAS GIVEN TO THE BASE PAPER.

BUT THE EASIEST TIME TO CLEAN THIS UP WOULD BE WHENEVER WE ADOPT THERE.

I THINK.

AND THAT'S THE THING THAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO GET INTO IS SOME KIND OF MERIT PAY BECAUSE THE BASE, YOU KNOW, IF YOU DO THE SAME JOB, YOU DO THE SAME JOB, IT MAKE BUT LONG DID OR SOMETHING SHOULD COUNT OR SOMETHING.

AND I DON'T KNOW, THE MERIT PAY STUFF WAS GONE BEFORE I GOT, BUT I KNOW THE REASON WE CUT OUT THE LONGEVITY AND IT PURE AND SIMPLE JUST A MATTER OF ECONOMICS.

I NO, I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND THAT.

I'M NOT SAYING THAT.

I'M JUST SAYING THAT IT IS A THING.

YOU CAN'T WRITE THE STONE AND SAYING, WELL, OKAY, I'M GONNA PAY YOU THE SAME, THE NEXT PERSON.

BUT THAT'S THE WAY TO MAKE, THERE'S NO WAY OF BETWEEN LONG TERM.

THINK OF IT, THINK OF IT THIS WAY.

YOUR TOTAL COST OF MERIT COUNTYWIDE IS 81,642 RIGHT NOW ISN'T VERY MUCH LONGEVITY IS 602,000 ALMOST.

ALMOST 603.

OH, NO, NO.

I I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND THAT.

NOT MILLION.

I THINK WHEN I GOT HERE IT WAS MILLION DOLLARS.

YEAH.

FOR YEAH, IT, AND IT WOULD BE THERE NOW.

BUT YOU KNOW, THAT'S, THAT'S THE, YOU KNOW, IT'S ALMOST LIKE WE'RE TRYING TO FORM A UNION WHEN WE SAY THAT WE'RE GONNA PAY EVERYBODY AT BENEFIT THE SAME, YOU KNOW, THAT'S THE BAD.

WELL WHEN YOU, WHEN YOU DO RAISE THE BASE OUT, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S THE OLD SAYING? THE, WHEN YOU RAISE THE SHIP, ALL SHIPS RIGHT.

OR WHATEVER, YOU KNOW, I MEAN WHEN YOU RAISE THE BASE.

SO IT DOES BENEFIT EVERYBODY.

UH, AND I'M NOT, YOU KNOW, WE DID THAT LAST YEAR, $1,200, BUT REALLY WE'RE STILL TRYING TO CATCH UP WHEN WE CUT THEIR SALARIES.

YOU KNOW, THEY'RE STILL BEHIND.

YEAH, WE'RE STILL BEHIND.

AND SO, UH, YOU NEED, YOU NEED TO BE AWARE TOO THAT, UM, THE OTHER PAYROLL DEPARTMENT AT ONE TIME, UH, WHEN SOMEBODY LEFT AND THERE WAS MERIT AND LONGEVITY THERE, THEY WOULD GIVE THE NEW ENTRY LEVEL PERSON NOT THE LONGEVITY.

'CAUSE THEY COULDN'T LEGALLY, BUT THEY, THEY GIVE, THEY GIVE THEM THAT MERIT.

AND THAT'S HOW SOME OF THOSE PEOPLE GOT BUMMED UP MAKING SO MUCH.

AND THEY JUST STARTED WITH THE COUNTY.

SO THAT'S WHY I TRIED TO SET LIKE AN ENTRY LEVEL BASE SALARY.

AND THEN AS YOU GO ALONG, YOU, AND THAT'S WHAT YOU WANT TO AVOID BECAUSE YOU WANT PEOPLE TO START WORK THEIR WAY UP.

AND THE LONGER THEY STAY HERE, THE MORE YOU PAY THEM AND THE LONGER THEY STAY HERE, THE LOWER YOUR REPLACEMENT.

I MEAN, EVERYBODY LIKES A LITTLE RAISE.

SO IF YOU HAVE A BASE OF 40,000, YOU START 'EM AT 35 JUST TO SEE HOW THEY WORK.

AND THEN AT THE END OF THE YEAR YOU GIVE 'EM ANOTHER POUND OR $2.

AND I DON'T UNTIL, I DON'T KNOW WHO SET THE SALARY FOR BAILEY, BUT SHE SHOULD HAVE BEEN PROBABLY SET AT THE SAME BASE AS THE OTHER COURT COURT COORDINATOR.

SHE WAS AT THE TIME.

SHE WAS HIRED ON FULL TIME.

IT'S JUST THAT 12 RAISE.

THAT'S RIGHT.

I KEEP FORGETTING THAT.

WHAT? SHE HADN'T BEEN HERE AS THE APRIL WE SAID THAT.

I ALREADY TOLD YOU THAT.

OKAY.

I STAND CORRECTED .

ALRIGHT, FIRST JUDGE, YOU JUST OPENED UP ALL THE TIME.

YOU'VE BEEN A ROOKIE.

WELL, WE NEEDED SOME DISCUSSION.

HONESTLY, WHAT I UNDERSTAND MERIT WOULD DISCONTINUE BECAUSE EVERYBODY WAS GETTING MARRIED, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, JUST THROUGH THE WORD MERIT MEANS SOMETHING.

SO, UH, SO WHAT DO YOU WANT TO DO? I I'M JUST ONE LITTLE DEAL KIND KNOW I BEST HIRE SOMEBODY.

UM, WE ALREADY DECIDED HIRE SOMEBODY PART THAT IF I CAN SUPPORT BAILEY ON THIS JUST A LITTLE BIT AND THEN Y'ALL CAN MAKE A DECISION.

YOU WANNA, SHE'S REALLY A GOOD EMPLOYEE AND I, UM, I MEAN SHE'S NOT GOOD.

SHE'S GREAT AND SHE JUST TAKES CARE OF THAT COURT.

YOU CAN'T IMAGINE WHAT SHE DOES IN THAT COURTROOM TO TAKE CARE OF ME AND ALL THE PROBLEMS SHE'S OVER THERE ON RIGHT NOW WITH WORKING THE CRIMINAL DOCK.

BUT IF WE BRING SOMEBODY IN FOR THE SUMMER, SHE'S GONNA HAVE TO TRAIN THEM.

THEY'RE NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO COME IN AND JUST DO THE LAW LIBRARY.

SO SHE'S GONNA HAVE TO PUT TIME IN DOING THAT.

AND THEN WHEN THE NEW PERSON COMES AFTER HE LEAVES, SHE'S, AND, AND I DON'T, I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM LEAVING THE 15,000 IN THERE AND JUST PAYING SOMEBODY PART-TIME.

I JUST WISH I COULD GIVE HER A LITTLE BIT OF SOMETHING FOR WHAT SHE'S DONE OR WHAT SHE, AND IF I CAN, I CAN'T.

BUT I, I FEEL LIKE I NEED TO STICK UP BASE BECAUSE YOU NOT GETTING OLD TIME AND I GET COMP TIME.

RIGHT.

I DON'T HAVE ANY

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BUT SHE'S AN EXEMPTIVE EMPLOYEE TOO.

YEAH.

WELL YOU BETTER WAIT UNTIL AFTER THE IRS AUDITS OVER BEFORE WE MAKE THAT DECISION.

I SAY COME BACK TO THIS.

DO WHAT MS. LORD CHANGING.

YEAH.

YEAH.

THEY'RE CHANGING LAWS RIGHT NOW ACCORDING TO, TO LORI.

YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT SOME ISSUES.

HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH COUNTY COURT AT LAW, BUT SOMETIMES PEOPLE WILL HIRE SOMEBODY AND CALL THEM A CONTRACT LABOR AND SUBMIT STUFF TO KW TO PAY THAT PERSON FOR FOUR HOURS OR SOMETHING THAT MAY MIGHT OF WORK.

THAT PERSON IS REALLY NOT A CONTRACT LABORER.

IF YOU'RE SUPPLYING THEM A UNIFORM IN A CAR AND YOU PAYING 'EM BY THE HOUR AND YOU PAYING 'EM BY HOUR AND YOU'RE GIVING THEM A PLACE IN, YOU'RE SUPERVISING, WELL THERE'S THE KEY WORD.

IF YOU SUPERVISE THEM AND ALREADY CAN TELL YOU THAT IF YOU SUPERVISE 'EM, THE MINUTE YOU START DIRECTING THEM AND HOW TO DO THE JOB, GUESS WHAT THEY ARE? THEY'RE YOUR EMPLOYEE.

THEY'RE NOT A CONTRACT LABOR.

WHY IS SHE AN EXEMPT EMPLOYEE? 'CAUSE UH, COURT COORDINATORS ARE EXEMPT.

IT'S EXEMPT POSITION OPINION.

BUT THERE, THERE'S, UM, LAWS RIGHT NOW THAT ARE CHANGING.

RIGHT NOW.

YOUR EXEMPT SALARY IS LIKE 24,000.

THEY'RE LOOKING AT CHANGING THAT TO ABOUT 45 50.

SO ANYBODY MAKING LESS THAN THAT WILL NOT BE EXEMPT.

SO THAT COULD VERY, WELL, SHE WOULDN'T BE EXEMPT ANYMORE, BUT THEY'RE FIGHTING ABOUT IT RIGHT NOW, WHICH MEANS OVERTIME, UHHUH, A GOOD MAJORITY OF OUR EXEMPT EMPLOYEES, WOULD NO LONGER BE EXEMPT.

I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY.

I GUESS THEY WERE, BECAUSE THEY DID IT THEMSELVES.

IT'S, IN OTHER WORDS, YOU DIDN'T KNOW HOW TO DO IT.

SHE DID NOT, YOU, YOU DIDN'T DIRECT HER.

AND THEY, THEY CHOSE THAT, I GUESS THAT THAT POSITION JUST AN EXEMPT POSITION.

LIKE IF YOU, HOW MANY POSITIONS YOU HAVE LIKE THAT, UM, THAT ARE EXEMPT? WE HAVE ABOUT 46, I THINK THAT ARE EXEMPT INVOICE, LIKE ALL THE DEPARTMENT HEADS, UM, ARE EXEMPT.

UM, OUR COURT COORDINATORS, COURT REPORTERS, OKAY.

ALL THE ATTORNEYS, THEY'RE ALL EXEMPT PROFESSIONALS.

THEY'RE ALL, THEY ALL DIRECT, THEY'RE SET, BUT THE DETERMINING FACTORS GOING TO BE THE DOLLAR AMOUNT.

THEY MIGHT, THAT'S WHAT'S CHANGING.

THAT'S WHAT LAW IS CHANGING.

AND SO SOME OF THOSE WILL NO LONGER BE CONSIDERED EXEMPT UNDER THE NEW LAW, DEPENDING ON HOW IT PASSED.

DOESN'T MEAN THEY'LL TAKE OR CUT AND SAY, NO, NO, NO.

THAT JUST MEANS WE WOULD OWE THEM OVERTIME.

TIME AND A HALF.

OKAY.

THAT GOT, UH, FAIR STANDARD LABOR, LABOR STANDARD TEST, UH, SEMINAR THAT WE WENT THROUGH.

WE FOUND OUT THAT SOME AT THE, UH, SO WAS IT TELECOMMUNICATION? NO, IT WAS JAYLOR.

JAILERS WERE SET UP WRONG AND WE HAD TO CORRECT ABOUT 10 OF THOSE AND PAY THEM.

AND THAT OVERTIME USED TO BE THE SAME RULE AS THE, THE CONTRACT LABOR.

I CONSIDERED IF YOU DIDN'T DIRECT THEM, THEN YOU, OKAY.

SO WE, I THINK WE JUST KIND OF THE CONSENSUS, LET 'EM GO AHEAD AND DO SOMEBODY ON, ON THE, USING THE 15,000.

THEN WE'LL COME BACK WHENEVER WE'LL DO SALARIES AND LOOK AT THE WHOLE KIND OF BIG PICTURE AND WE'LL, OKAY.

I THINK EVERYBODY'S GOT NOTES.

AND LAURA, YOU AND I, I'VE GOT IT.

KAREN, MAKE SURE YOU DON'T FORGET.

YOU WON'T LET ANYWAY.

NO, I'M TRYING.

I DON'T SEE, I THINK GLORIA PROBABLY WOULD, BUT SHE'S A GOOD, YOU NEED TO KEEP THEM.

WE AGREE.

AND JUDGE, I'LL TELL YOU, SAME THING WE TOLD JUDGE JONES.

WE REALLY APPRECIATE THE WAY YOU GUYS ARE MOVING CASES ALONG.

WELL, I APPRECIATE THAT.

YEAH.

THAT MAKES THIS PROCESS.

YOU DO YOUR, WE'RE WORKING TOGETHER REAL WELL.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

AND THE NEXT ONE IS CLAYTON, UH, FOR THE VETERANS ADMINISTRATION.

CLAYTON, UH, DIDN'T ASK FOR ANYTHING.

I, HE'S MENTIONED A LITTLE BIT TO ME, UH, ABOUT THE FLEET MANAGEMENT, UH, PROGRAM THAT HE HELPS US WITH.

AND I THINK SOME OF IT IS THE AMBIGUITY, YOU KNOW, EXACTLY WHAT HIS ROLE IS.

AND I REALLY THINK SOME OF IT IS, IS THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT THIS POLICY OUT THERE THAT SAYS WE'RE NOT GONNA USE VEHICLES AFTER SO MANY MILES AND WE'RE VIOLATING OUR OWN POLICY.

AND SO I THINK PART PATROL VEHICLES AND THINGS LIKE THAT, THEN WE HAD PEOPLE HAVING, UH, CARS THAT OUR POLICY OR NOT USING 40% ENOUGH TIME OVER THE CAR.

YEAH.

BECAUSE WE DIDN'T HAVE ANYBODY DO IT.

HE, HE JUST ASSUMED NOT DO IT, TO BE HONEST WITH YOU.

AND I'M SURE, I THINK WE PROBABLY PULL THAT OUT OF HERE.

YEAH.

I THINK WE PROBABLY SHOULD PULL THAT AWAY FROM HIM.

I, THE FLEET MANAGEMENT SUPPLEMENT.

YEAH.

THE JOB.

LET HIM CONTINUE FOR THE REST OF THIS BUDGET YEAR.

YEAH.

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I JUST THINK PERSONALLY, I THINK OUTSIDE, OUTSIDE, YOU KNOW, I THINK THERE'S ONLY ONE PERSON THAT HAS 95, 90 8% OF CARS.

THE SHERIFF, SHERIFF DEPARTMENT SHOULD BE MONITORED TRACTORS.

WELL, NOT EVEN THOUGHT, AND MAYBE YOU'RE RIGHT, THERE MAY BE BETTER, BUT I EVEN THOUGHT MAYBE OUR NEW FACILITIES PUT THAT.

WELL, YOU KNOW, MY, I GUESS EVERYWHERE YOU GO, UH, YOU KNOW, YOU GO TO THE CITY OF DALLAS, ALMOST ANYBODY, THE SHERIFF DEPUTY OR UH, OR CITY POLICE OFFICER, THE ONES IN CHARGE OF THE CARS BECAUSE THEY HAVE, THEY HAVE THEM ALL.

THEY'RE THE GUYS THAT'S GOING TO DIRECT, 90% OF THEM ARE MORE.

OKAY.

AND EXCEPT IN THE LARGE COUNTY, LIKE TART COUNTY AND YOU KNOW, I MEAN THEY JUST, IT'S JUST WHERE THEY ARE.

I MEAN, AND YOU KNOW, THEY DIDN'T ALL PARTS, EVERYBODY NEEDS ONE.

I THINK WE NEED TO REVISIT THE WHOLE POLICY.

AND I AGREE.

AND MAYBE, MAYBE NOT THIS BUDGET YEAR, BUT NEXT YEAR OR MOVE TOWARDS, UH, HAVING A CENTRAL VEHICLE MAINTENANCE FACILITY WITH SOMEBODY IN CHARGE OF IT THAT'S IN CHARGE OF THE VEHICLE POLICY.

WE, WHERE WE'RE GETTING TO THAT POINT, WE'RE THERE.

WE NEED OUR OWN OIL CHANGE DEPARTMENT WHEREVER CAR, YOU KNOW, THAT'S JUST WHERE WE'RE AT.

SHERIFF DEPARTMENT VEHICLES, LOOKING AT THE MILEAGE THEY'VE SET FOR FOUR MONTHS WITH HARDLY ANY MILES, ZERO MILES OR A HUNDRED OR 200 MILES.

SO SOMEBODY NEEDS TO BE MANAGING THAT FLEET THAT, YOU KNOW, WHY ARE THESE VEHICLES WE, THEY'RE WON'T PAY MORE, BUT YOU'VE GOT SOME THAT ARE NOT BEING USED.

YOU KNOW, IS THERE SOMETHING WRONG WITH THEM? IS IT MINOR? YOU KNOW, WE FIX IT FOR A COUPLE THOUSAND.

THEY COME IN TOMORROW, BUT YOU'RE NOT GONNA GET STRAIGHT ANSWERS.

DON'T EXPECT STRAIGHT ANSWERS ON WHAT'S WRONG WITH THE VEHICLES.

THEY'VE GOT WISH LIST.

PREPARE YOURSELF.

THEY HAVE TO HAVE A NEW, TWICE A YEAR WE HAD A POOL CAR.

RIGHT.

THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING.

IF WE HAD A VEHICLE, MAKE A FACILITY AND POOL THE CAR THERE, WE GET A LOT BETTER HANDLE ON POLICY, ON ALL MAINTENANCE, ON A VEHICLE COST.

YOU KNOW, WE HAD AN IN-SERVICE DEPARTMENT THAT DID THE REPAIRS TO VEHICLES AND WHAT THEY WOULD DO, THEY HAD A SOFTWARE, THIS VEHI PD VEHICLE CAME IN.

THEY HAD TO DO THIS, THIS, AND THIS.

AND THE SOFTWARE WOULD BILL FOR THE PARTS, YOU KNOW, WITH NOTHING ADDED.

BUT THEY WOULD ALSO CHARGE FOR THE LABOR OF THE GUYS THAT WORKED THE HOURS AND THE RATE THAT THEY WERE BEING PAID.

AND THEN WE WOULD CODE THAT TO THE PD AS HAS REPAIRS AND DEPARTMENT AND IT FINANCE THAT DEPARTMENT THAT GAVE THEM INCENTIVE TO WORK, BE EFFICIENT AND DO A GOOD JOB JUST LIKE THEY WOULD DID FOR THEMSELVES.

THAT'S A REAL GOOD IDEA.

WELL, EVERY BOARD HOUSE, THEY ALL DO THE SAME THING.

SERVICE THEY BUILT INTO THE SOFTWARE.

YOU CAN GET THIS MANY HOURS FOR THAT, BUT STANDARD, IF YOU GET, IF YOU CAN GET PAID 16 HOURS AN EIGHT HOUR A DAY, YOU'RE DOING GOOD.

SO GIVES YOU INCENTIVE TO WORK.

AS FAR AS CLAYTON'S REGULAR BUDGET, I MEAN CLAYTON DOES A REALLY GOOD JOB.

HE TAKES THIS, UH, UH, HIS JOB VERY SERIOUS.

AND WE, WE DOES, WE HIRE HIM.

THIS IS A HUNDRED PERCENT COUNTY NO STATE FUNDS COME TO NO FEDERAL MONEY OR ANYTHING BETTER THAN, BUT HE HAS REALLY, HE'S REALLY REACHED OUT AND HE'S IMPROVED THAT.

YEAH.

HE'S REALLY GOT A LOT MORE VETERANS NOW.

AND, UH, I MEAN HE'S ALWAYS, HE GOES TO THE NURSING HOME.

HE'S FOUND PEOPLE IN NURSING HOMES THAT ARE VETERANS THAT ARE JUST, YOU KNOW, WELLING.

HE WAS IN THE, HE WAS IN THE NAVY.

WAS HE? I CAN'T REMEMBER.

I DON'T REMEMBER.

I DO KNOW THAT HE HAS HELPED TWO EMPLOYEES THAT WORK FOR US WITH THEIR VETERANS BENEFITS AND THEY'VE GOTTEN AN INCREASE.

YEAH, HE'S DONE A GOOD JOB.

YEAH, HE'S, HE'S GONE ALL THE TIME.

HE, HE REALLY, I MEAN, HE TAKES IT VERY SERIOUSLY AND HE'S, I THINK, UH, LIKE THESE, SOMEBODY IN THE NURSING HOMES, HE'S FOUND, THEY, THEY DIDN'T EVEN KNOW THEY WERE QUALIFIED FOR IT.

AND IT HELPS THEIR FAMILIES.

THE WHOLE WE EXCEPT SO WE TAKE 6,000.

YEAH.

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AND I THINK WE ARE GOING NEED GO BACK, WE'LL NEED TO TALK MAYBE WHILE WE'RE HERE THE NEXT DAY OR TWO WITHOUT STARTING THIS, ANOTHER BUDGET FOR OUR FACILITIES DIRECTOR, OUR MAINTENANCE DEPARTMENT, AND SEE HOW WE WANNA MESH ALL THAT TOGETHER, YOU KNOW, SO THEY WOULD BE READY TO GO OR OCTOBER.

YEAH.

'CAUSE IF WE HAD TO MOVE SOME EMPLOYEES AND WE GOTTA KNOW AHEAD OF TIME, SO WE'RE PAYING, PAYING THEM OUT.

RIGHT.

AND I'VE REQUESTED SOME JOB DESCRIPTIONS FROM OTHER COUNTIES AND I HAVE SEVERAL YING THEM, JUST DEPENDING ON WHAT ANGLE Y'ALL WANT TO GO.

'CAUSE EACH COUNTY DOES IT A LITTLE DIFFERENT.

OKAY.

ALRIGHT.

I THINK WE HAVE A BREAK RIGHT NOW, SO WE'LL COME BACK HERE IN A LITTLE BIT.

IF, UH, UH, 10, 10 ACTUALLY TIME.

LEMME SEE IF I CAN CALL, UH, WE'LL TRY TO COME BACK 10.

CLAYTON, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT YOURS A LITTLE BIT, UH, BEFORE YOU GOT IN HERE AND WE TALKED ABOUT THE, UH, YOU KNOW, GRACIOUSLY ACCEPTED LAST YEAR, KIND OF AT THE LAST MINUTE THEN.

YES, SIR.

I THINK YOU'VE INDICATED THAT YOU'D REALLY RATHER LET GO SOMEWHERE ELSE IF YOU COULD.

WELL, IT, IT, I DON'T, I THINK IT NEEDS TO, I, I, I CAN'T, I FEEL BAD BECAUSE I CAN'T SPEND THE TIMELINE THAT IT NEEDS TO BE, YOU KNOW, THAT THAT NEEDS TO BE ON THERE.

AND IT'S, UH, THE COUNTY SIZE WISE COMPARED TO A LOT OF OTHER COUNTIES I'VE BEEN TALKING TO WHERE, YOU KNOW, MOST COUNTIES THAT HAVE FLEET MANAGEMENT HAVE FLEET FACILITIES AND HAVE, THEY'RE 300,000 PLUS POPULATION WORK.

YOU KNOW, UH, WE'RE NOT, NOT QUITE THERE YET.

AND, BUT I THINK IT'S A GOOD START.

I JUST DON'T KNOW IF NEED SOMEBODY'S DEDICATED TO IT.

FOUR SEVEN.

AND THAT'S WHAT, UH, THAT'S KIND OF WHY I'M HERE TODAY AS FAR AS BUDGET WISE.

YOU KNOW, I'M NOT CHANGING ANYTHING.

BUT, UH, I DID WANT TO POINT OUT SOME THINGS THAT ARE ONE MORE GOT THIS, THIS IS GOOD INFORMATION.

THIS IS BASICALLY JUST HOW THE VETERANS HAVE BEEN THROWING SINCE, UH, SINCE I CAME IN, SINCE THEY CALLED FROM COUNTY.

YEAH.

UH, YES SIR.

THE, THE, THE CLAIMS HAVE MORE THAN, UH, MORE THAN DOUBLED THE, UH, THE VETERANS ARE GROWING, BUT THE CLAIMS ARE, THE CLAIMS ARE WHAT'S GROWING.

THE FIRST GETTING OUT THERE THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF VETERANS OUT THERE THAT ARE NOT BEING HELPED.

AND THE ONES THAT ARE BEING HELPED ARE, THEY MAY BE A THIRD PERCENT WHEN THEY SHOULD BE AT, YOU KNOW, 70, 80% AND THEY'RE NOT GETTING THE, THE BENEFITS THAT ARE DUE TO 'EM AND THAT KIND OF THING.

AND HALF OF IT IS, THERE'S NOT, THERE'S NOT AN ADVOCATE FOR THE VETERAN LIKE MYSELF THAT'LL, THAT'LL GO UP THERE AND, AND DROP THE PEOPLE AT THE HOSPITAL OR GO TO WACO AND GRAB THE PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, FOR, YOU KNOW, THE WAY THIS PARTICULAR VETERAN'S BEING TREATED AND THOSE NUMBERS ARE COMING UP, YOU KNOW, AS YOU'ALL TELL, THEY'RE COMING UP, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GETTING, WE'RE GETTING MORE MONEY COMING INTO THE COUNTY BECAUSE OF IT.

WE'RE GETTING MORE VETERANS THAT ARE HAPPIER WITH THIS COUNTY'S, YOU KNOW, SERVICE TO 'EM.

YEAH.

AND IF WE CONTINUE TO GROW, I WOULD ASSUME THERE'D BE MORE, MORE AND MORE OF IT TOO.

AND UH, AND IT JUST SEEMS LIKE ON A DAILY BASIS, I'M SPENDING NO 90 TO A HUNDRED PERCENT OF MY TIME ON VETERAN STUFF AND NOT POLICE STUFF.

AND THIS IS MORE IMPORTANT.

SO ANYWAY, BASICALLY YEAH, THE, THE, THE POLICE STUFF KEEP PUTTING ON THE BACK BURNER AND IT, AND IT SHOULDN'T BE, BUT YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST HOURS IN THE DAY AND YOU'RE NOT, YOU WOULDN'T, YOU WOULDN'T MISS THE NO $6,000 TRUCK.

NO.

OH, WOULD IT BE NICE TO HAVE? YEAH.

YEAH.

WELL YOU UNDERSTAND THAT PROBABLY WOULD GO AWAY.

YEAH.

IF, IF IT WAS GOING TO SOMEONE ELSE WHO WAS ACTUALLY DOING THAT PARTICULAR JOB HERE, I WAS TELLING THE COURT YOU, SOME OF THEM MAY ALREADY KNOW, BUT I KNOW YOU'RE ACTUALLY GOING INTO NURSING HOMES MM-HMM .

AND TALKING TO PEOPLE THAT ARE IN NURSING HOMES AND FINDING THAT, MANY OF 'EM DON'T EVEN KNOW.

UH, AND A LOT OF THE MEN, UH, ADMINISTRATORS, THEY'RE CATCHING ON.

THEY'RE CALLING ME, YOU KNOW, TIME TO COME DO A LITTLE, UH, SEMINAR TYPE DEAL AND DISCUSS WITH, YOU KNOW, VETERANS AND THEIR FAMILY MEMBERS THAT, YOU KNOW, HEY, THERE IS EXTRA MONEY OUT THERE FOR THAT VETERAN BECAUSE OF, YOU KNOW, WARTIME SERVICE, YOU KNOW, THAT KIND OF THING.

AND I FIND OUT A COUPLE YEARS FROM THERE, THE MONEY THAT THEY GET, VA YOU'RE NURSING CANNOT TAKE THAT MONEY.

AND THAT, THAT EVEN THAT GOES TO EITHER FIDUCIARY

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OR TO A FAMILY MEMBER, TO A CHECKING ACCOUNT.

IT HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH, IT'S A DEAL.

DEAL.

WHAT IS IT NOW? THE, THE PENSION THAT THEY'RE GETTING WHAT PEOPLE OR WINDOWS, DEPENDING ON WHAT, YOU KNOW, THAT MONEY GOES DIRECTLY TO THAT FAMILY, NOT TO THE NURSING, BUT IT DOES HELP PAY THOSE KIND NURSING HOMES.

NURSING HOMES.

I'M SURPRISED THAT THE, UH, THE AVERAGE PERCENT LITTLE MORE IF HE'S GOT THE, A LITTLE MORE IF HE'S GOT, OR I MEAN, THAT'S A GOOD THING.

BUT A LOT OF YOUR, AND THAT'S ANOTHER THING TOO, A LOT OF YOUR VETERANS THAT ARE HUNDRED PERCENT, THEY'RE NOT ACTUALLY OUT THERE IN THE, IN THE WORKFORCE.

YOU KNOW, YOU MAY HAVE SOME VETERANS THAT ARE 70%, UH, FOR THEY'RE ACTUALLY ABLE TO GO OUT AND WORK AND, AND THAT MONEY'S SUPPLEMENTS.

BUT THERE'S SOME HUNDRED PERCENT THAT'S, THAT'S MIGHT BE ALL BUT THAT'S STILL MONEY.

YOU KNOW, THAT'S TAX FREE MONEY.

YEAH.

YES SIR.

SURE IS.

AND THAT'S, THAT'S MONEY COMING INTO THE COUNTY, STAYING IN THE COUNTY, HOPEFULLY STAYING IN THE COUNTY AND, YOU KNOW, BEING A LOT OF FAMILIES TOO, BECAUSE OF THE FACT, YOU KNOW, THEY WERE HAVING LOT OF MONEY.

YEAH.

AND WHAT I'M FINDING OUT, THERE'S A LOT OF VETERANS OUT THERE BECAUSE THEY MIGHT BE 30% AND THEY REALLY NEED TO BE MEDICAL WISE AND YOU KNOW, MONEY WISE, THEY, THEY SHOULD GET 70 OR EIGHT.

THEY JUST DON'T HAVE AN ADVOCATE LIKE MYSELF THAT WILL GO AND FIGHT FOR 'EM.

DO, THEY'LL, THEY'LL, THEY MIGHT START THE PAPERWORK AND THEY JUST GIVE UP AND, YOU KNOW, AND IT'S JUST, IT IS KIND OF A PAIN AND IT SHOULDN'T BE.

BUT, UH, BUT THEY, YOU KNOW, IF THEY GOT SOMEONE THAT'LL GO FIGHT FOR 'EM AND GET THAT 30% TO 70% OR 80% YEAH.

THEN THEY, YOU KNOW, THAT'S MORE MONEY IN THEIR POCKET AND, BUT THAT'S MORE BENEFITS.

THEY ALSO GET, I GOT A, AN EMAIL THE OTHER DAY FROM THE VETERANS LANDLORD THAT I FORWARDED ON TO YOU AND, UH, I'VE ASKED CLAYTON TO GET THAT ON OUR WEBSITE OR A LINK TO IT ON OUR WEBSITE.

AND THERE'S A NUMBER OF PROGRAMS OUT THERE THAT HELP VETERANS.

THIS IS THE STATE PROGRAM LANDLORD THING IS, IT'S A GOOD PROCESS.

AND, AND THEY, AND THEY, THEY WENT ALL AUTOMATED.

SO THERE MAY BE A, AN OLDER VETERAN OUT THERE WHO WANTS TO BUY SOME LAND AND HE, HE MAY NOT REALLY BE COMPUTER SAVVY.

HE CAN COME TO MY OFFICE AND WE, BECAUSE IT'S ALL DONE ONLINE NOW.

THE LAND LANDLORD PART OF IT, YOU PAY YOU BILLS ONLINE, DO LOAN ONLINE, YOU DO EVERYTHING ONLINE.

BUT, UH, BUT EVEN OFFICE, WE SIT DOWN AND DO IT.

HOW MANY OUT OF THE COUNTY VETERANS DO YOU HAVE FROM IN? I KNOW NOT EVERY COUNTY HAS VETERAN SERVICE.

I GET, I GET A HANDFUL OF, ESPECIALLY FROM VAN.

UH, THEY HAD ONE, BUT THEY ELIMINATE THERE.

YEAH.

UH, HE WORKS A COUPLE OF DAYS A WEEK AND I THINK IT'S KIND OF VOLUNTEER.

YEAH, HE DOES BECAUSE HE'S A VETERAN.

BUT, UH, SO I'M GETTING A LOT OF PAYING ATTENTION PEOPLE AS WELL.

AND, AND IT'S STRICTLY UP TO THE COUNTY WHERE THE COUNTY, YOU KNOW, I CAN TELL PEOPLE, WELL, MY COUNTY COMMISSION WON'T LET ME TAKE OUTSIDE, YOU KNOW, UH, PEOPLE THERE, COUNTIES THAT ACTUALLY DO THAT, BUT I HAVEN'T DONE THAT.

I I'M NOT THERE.

RIGHT.

THAT'S GOOD.

AS FAR AS HOW MANY I GET IT, IT, IT VARIES.

I MORE PHONE CALLS THAN ANYTHING.

AND IF THEY'RE UP IN THIS WAY, THEY'LL STOP.

BUT THEY COME HERE TO PAY THE TAX TO FRANCIS AND THEY COME IN AND SEE ME.

I KNOW ROCKWALL COUNTY DIDN'T HAVE ONE, BUT I THINK THEY STARTED ONE.

OH YEAH, ROCK GOOD.

THEY GOT A GOOD ONE.

YEAH.

YEAH.

HE'S A GOOD GUY.

HE'S A PROBABLY A 25 YEAR VETERAN, UH, RETIRED ARMY.

HE WAS OUT OF HUNT COUNTY.

YES.

THAT'S WHAT I UNDERSTAND.

DID HUNT COUNTY? YEAH.

YEAH.

THEY GOT A GOOD ONE DOWN HERE.

UH, ACTUALLY THE GUY TOOK GO HUNT COUNTY WAS, UH, NOT PROJE, BUT HE WORKED WITH, UH, ROCK LAW NOW.

SO WHEN HE WENT TO ROCK LAW, THAT GUY STAYED THERE AND TOOK OVER THIS.

HE WAS AN ASSISTANT.

I GUESS Y'ALL HAVE ANY, ANY QUESTIONS? WE'RE WE'RE NOT MAKING ANY FINAL DECISIONS TODAY.

WE'RE JUST KIND OF TAKING NOTES AND JUST KIND OF LOOKING TO SEE, BUT THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS WE'LL BE LOOKING AT IS TO ANOTHER FIGURE OUT SOMETHING ON, I KNOW WE HAD TALKED AT ONE TIME, UH, AND WE HAVE SOME VEHICLES THAT ARE WAY OVER THE MILEAGE, UH, THAT HAVE SURE.

WE'RE GOING HEAR BEFORE ABOUT THAT AND NEXT, UH, NEXT DAY.

AND YOU KNOW, THAT, THAT'S NOTHING WE DISCUSSED A LONG TIME AGO, IS TRYING TO GET A PROGRAM GOING.

WE DON'T HAVE A VEHICLE THAT CAN BE TURNED OVER TO LIKE A COUNTY VEHICLE AND THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT VEHICLE CAN TURN OVER TO SOMEBODY ELSE BECAUSE THEY RUN TO THE GROUND SO BAD THAT THEY'RE NOT WORTH ANYTHING TO GIVE TO ANOTHER DEPARTMENT.

THEY'RE JUST, THEY'RE, WHEN THEY'RE DONE, THEY'RE DONE.

AND UH, I

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DON'T KNOW IF WE'LL EVER GET A PROGRAM GOING TO WHERE THAT CAN HAPPEN.

YOU KNOW, LET'S STOP IT AT 40, 50,000 MILES AND GIVE IT TO ANOTHER DEPARTMENT THAT CAN USE IT TO TELL US, YOU KNOW, UH, AND THAT'S, WELL, THAT'D BE HARD TO DO WITH PATROL UNITS.

YEAH.

YOU KNOW, THEY, IF THEY HAVE OTHER DEPARTMENTS IN THERE TO GET NEW CARS, THEN THEY COULD PROBABLY DO THAT BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THEY PROBABLY MILES A YEAR OR SOMETHING THIRD YEAR OR SOMETHING.

UNDERSTOOD.

THEY TOOK ONE OF THOSE UNITS, ALENE TO PICK UP FREEZER WEATHER, REAR END FELL OUT IT OR GROUND.

UH, I DUNNO, I DIDN'T, I DIDN'T ASK SOMEBODY.

AND THAT, THAT CLEAN AIR STUFF IS STILL, UH, IT'S STILL GOING ON.

I, YOU KNOW, AND THAT'S MORE DONE ONLINE TYPE STUFF.

THERE'S A COUPLE MEETINGS YOU GO TO ONCE EVERY, YOU KNOW, THREE MONTHS OR SOMETHING UP THERE.

UH, IT'S, I THINK IT'S JUST MORE OF A PARTICIPATION THING.

I'M NOT SURE EXACTLY WHAT THEY STILL WANT ME TO DO.

YEAH, EXACTLY.

UH, I CAN'T GET AHOLD OF ANYBODY THAT SAYS, ALRIGHT, THIS IS THE, THIS IS THE PROGRAM, THIS IS WHAT YOU NEED TO FOLLOW.

I NEED TO HAVE THIS IN, YOU KNOW, EVERY MONTH.

YOU KNOW, I, I HAVEN'T FOUND THAT PERSON YET, BUT YEAH.

ISN'T THAT SO? YEAH.

YEAH.

THEY PASS ALL THESE THINGS.

THERE'S NOBODY IN CHARGE OF IT.

YEAH.

YOU CAN'T FIND THAT.

SO FAR WE'VE DOING JUST, UH, LIKE ONLINE WEBINARS AND MEETINGS UP AND THAT'S, THAT'S ALL, THAT'S ALL.

I, I THINK SOME OF THAT MONEY, THAT SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF THAT GOT FREED UP, THIS OBSESSION.

I UNDERSTAND LIKE $81 MILLION STATEWIDE AND SO MONEY AND SO, BUT THE WORD, YOU KNOW, WE AIN'T GOT ALL THE DETAILS ON THAT, SO, UH, BUT IT, NO, THE MONEY, THERE'S ALWAYS, AND EVERYTHING I'M GETTING OUT OF THEM UP THERE IS JUST LIKE, WHEN, WHEN ARE WE GONNA START LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, NATURAL GAS CARS OR THIS OR, YOU KNOW, UH, PUBLIC, NATURAL GAS, PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION.

WE'RE NOT THAT, THAT'S NOT OUR COUNTY.

WE'RE STATION.

I KNOW.

YEAH.

MOST OF THEM IN DALLAS COUNTY GETTING CUT OUT, YOU KNOW THAT , THEY STARTED THAT, THAT ONE GUY WITH ALL THE PEN CHAIN, THEY STARTED, THEY PULLED 'EM ALL OUT, YOU KNOW, THEY STILL HAD ONE DOWN THE COUNTY JAIL ACROSS FROM THE COUNTY JAIL, BUT I DON'T KNOW, I DON'T KNOW.

ANOTHER ONE IN DALLAS NOW.

I THINK THAT'S THE ONE.

WHEN MARY WAS THE POST OFFICE, THEY GAVE HIM A CAR.

GAS.

YOU HAVE TO GO DOWN THERE ACROSS FROM THE JAIL, FUEL IT UP, WE GET AT AND I PUT IN ONE PUT IN YOUR BACKYARD.

YEAH.

DONUTS IN THE MORNING.

ALL OF HIS CARS GOT ON.

OKAY.

WELL THANK YOU.

ANYBODY GOT ANY MORE QUESTIONS FOR THIS APPRECIATE JOB? THANK YOU.

APPRECIATE ANYTHING ELSE.

LEMME KNOW.

PUT THAT TIME ON THAT DOOR DOWN THERE.

MEETING UPSTAIRS.

THANK YOU GENTLEMEN.

MM-HMM .

THANK YOU.

THANK Y'ALL.

ALRIGHTY, THE NEXT ONE IS STEVE AND I ASSUME HE WILL BE HERE.

HE'S UH, HE'S OUT THERE IN THE HALL.

IS HE? HE'S OUT IN THE HALLWAY.

OKAY.

WE CAN HE AND JUDGE CHITTY.

OKAY.

THEY CAN COME ON IN THEN STEVE CAN KIND OF GIVE US AN UPDATE.

STEVE, COME ON IN AND GET OVER THE END OF THE TABLE AND PUT HIM ON THE HOT SEAT.

YEAH, KIND OF GIVE US AN UPDATE RIGHT PAST ON THE HOT SEAT.

GOT 30 SECONDS.

GO.

BEEN ON THE HOT SEAT.

YEAH.

LAST FEW WEEKS.

THAT'S RIGHT.

UH, GOT SOME GOOD NEWS.

UH, THIS MORNING RAY HUBBARD REDUCED THE RELEASE FROM 33,000 TO 13,000 CUBIC FEET PER SECOND.

SLOW IT DOWN, WHICH WILL SLOW, SLOW IT DOWN.

SO STILL GONNA TAKE A WHILE TO GET THE WATER DOWN.

UH, LAST NIGHT ON THE DALLAS COUNTY SIDE, NEAR COMBINE ON, THEY DID A VOLUNTARY EVACUATION, UH, NOTIFYING THE RESIDENTS IN THAT AREA.

WATER WAS OVER DOWN IN THERE.

AND UH, WE ALSO EVACUATED SOME PEOPLE AND SOME LIVESTOCK OFF OF, UH, 1 75 AND 7 41 YESTERDAY.

AND YOU COULD SEE THE WATER COMING UP THERE AND IT, FROM YESTERDAY MORNING UNTIL YESTERDAY, ABOUT THREE HAD COME UP ABOUT SIX H FEET.

AND IT WAS STILL COMING UP SLOWER THIS MORNING.

UH, TRYING TO WORK THROUGH ALL THE PROCESS OF GETTING US ON THE PRESIDENTIAL DECLARATION.

UH, WHAT THEY DID IS THEY DID THE SEVEN COUNTIES THAT HANDS DOWN,

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WITHOUT A DOUBT, MEET ALL THE QUALIFICATIONS JUST SO THEY COULD GET IT, GET IT DONE.

AND NOW WE'LL BE GOING THROUGH AND DOING A PRELIMINARY DAMAGE ASSESSMENT.

UH, STATE AND FEDERAL FOLKS WILL COME IN AND WE'LL, I'LL GO WITH THEM.

WE'LL GO AROUND, THEY'LL DO A SAMPLING OF THE ROADS.

UH, I THINK I PUT THIS IN AN EMAIL, BUT, UH, ANYWAY, LOOK AT SEVEN TO 10 OF THE WORST, WORST ROADS IN THE COUNTY.

DOESN'T HAVE TO BE FROM EACH PRECINCT, BUT THE SEVEN WORST.

AND, UH, SEVEN.

WHAT'S THE MAGIC NUMBER ON? THAT'S WHAT HE SAID.

SEVEN.

REALLY? SEVEN.

WHAT IF WE'VE ALREADY REPAIRED THE ROAD, THAT'S WHY WE GOTTA MAKE SURE YOU TAKE, TAKE PICTURES.

OKAY.

WE DID THAT.

YEAH.

TAKE PICTURES BEFOREHAND AND AFTERWARDS.

OKAY.

AND UH, UH, I PUT IN THAT REPORT, THE EMAIL ABOUT A LITTLE APPLICATION ON THE CELL PHONE'S CALLED PUTS LATITUDE, LONGITUDE, ELEVATION, DIRECTION, EVERYTHING ON THE PICTURE.

SO IT IS REALLY EASY TO GO BACK TO THE EXACT SPOT.

IT'S 3 9, 9, UH, FOR EACH FROM YOU PUT IT ON.

HOPEFULLY THAT WON'T BREAK A BUDGET OR ANYTHING.

BUT IS THAT PER MONTH OR PER YEAR OR PER ONE HALF.

ONE HALF.

HALF.

I IT FOR ABOUT THREE YEARS.

WILL IT, DO WE ABSOLUTELY HAVE TO HAVE THAT? NO.

OKAY.

WELL, WILL THAT APP ALLOW YOU TO, UH, DO MEASUREMENTS? LIKE IF YOU'RE, SAY AT THE INTERSECTION OF ROAD, CAN YOU PUSH A BUTTON AND DRIVE TO THE NEXT INTERSECTION AND IT TELL YOU THE DISTANCE? I DON'T THINK SO.

THAT'S WHAT I'M LOOKING FOR.

UH, YOU COME ACROSS ONE OF THOSE MAP GO DO THAT ONE.

YEAH, BUT IT'S NOT REAL.

YES, IT IS.

IT IS TO THE EXACT 10.

YOU DRAW THE LINE, THE LINE IS 5,000 PEOPLE, YOU KNOW.

WELL, WE, WE ALSO DID AN AERIAL SURVEY, UH, YESTERDAY.

JUDGE WENT WITH ME AND, AND THERE WAS SOME QUESTION THAT THE HELICOPTER WAS GONNA LIFT OFF ON THERE, BUT I'M HERE.

TELL YOU, WAS IT ? I JUST THOUGHT I THAT OUT THERE IT WAS LEANING A LITTLE MORE TOWARDS THE FRONT.

PUT SO MUCH FUEL AND AMMUNITION ON, YOU HAVE TO SOMETIMES PUSH OFF CREW.

WELL, THE CREW WOULD'VE TO GET OFF AND THE HIGHER YOU GET OFF THE GROUND, THE MORE LIFT YOU CAN GET.

SO YOU JUMP BACK AND GRAB A HOLD OF IT AND THEN GET IT THANK SPEED GOING FORWARD, I WOULDN'T, YOU KNOW, I WOULDN'T GONE THAT WE'VE HAD TO DO THAT.

, IF YOU CAN'T GET LIFT, IT'S OKAY.

YEAH, IF YOU CAN'T, THEN YOU CAN.

WELL, WE GOT UP FINE.

LIKE AIRPLANE.

AIRPLANE LEVY SEEMED TO BE DOING OKAY AT THIS POINT.

UH, IN MY CONVERSATIONS WITH SEAN PORTER, UH, IN ROSSER AREA, HIS DAD HAS BEEN ON THAT LEVEE BOARD FOR QUITE A WHILE.

UH, SAID THAT WHEN IT GETS UP TO AROUND 41 FEET, IT'S GONNA START COMING OVER THE LEVIES.

AND WE'RE AT 41.16 AS OF THIS MORNING.

HAVEN'T HEARD ANYTHING FROM SEAN AS FAR AS WHETHER IT IS COMING OVER YET.

IT'S SUPPOSED TORE TOMORROW MIDDAY AT 42.2, WHICH BEATS THE RECORD OF 41.8 SAID IN EITHER 1939 OR 1941, UH, THEY REDUCED THE GATES.

THAT HUB YOU THINK OF? NO, BECAUSE STILL GONNA COME.

THAT PART IS, UH, THE MAIN CHANNEL, UH, AND IT IS BEING FED BY BOTH EAST FORK AND ELM PORT.

AND THEY'RE, THEY'RE STILL GOT GOING OVER THE SPILLWAY ON THE ELM PORT.

SO, YOU KNOW, I DON'T SEE THAT COMING DOWN ANY, UH, THERE'S TWO BREACHES ON THE ELLIS COUNTY SIDE AND IT'S GETTING, LAST NIGHT IT WAS 150, 200 YARDS FROM 34.

IT'S A GOOD POSSIBILITY.

34 WILL GET CUT OFF BETWEEN HERE AND IN THE NEXT 24 48 HOURS.

UM, RIGHT NOW WE'RE JUST KIND OF WAITING, WATCHING AND, YOU KNOW, TRYING TO MONITOR THE SITUATION TO SEE WHAT, WHAT HAPPENS AND WHAT WE NEED TO, TO DO NEXT.

I BET THERE'D BE A LOT OF LEVEE INSPECTIONS THERE.

YES.

NOPE, THEY'VE ALREADY DOWNGRADED OUR LIVINGS, WHICH MEANS THAT THEY JUST KNOW THEY NEED TO BE FIXED.

WELL, THEY KNOW THEY NEED TO BE FIXED IF THEY BREACH.

THE CORPS OF ENGINEERS WILL NOT HELP US TO FIX THEM.

AND, AND, AND I SAW IT FROM THE AIR BECAUSE THE TREES ARE SUPPOSED TO BE KEPT AWAY, UH, FOUR FEET AWAY FROM THE FOOT OF 11.

THEY'RE UP ON THE LIFT.

THEY'RE ALL STRONG.

AND, AND THAT'S BOTH SIDES IN THE CHANNEL AND AWAY.

AND YOU KNOW, THE PEOPLE RESPONSIBLE, WHICH ARE THE LANDOWNERS TO JUST TOTALLY LET 'EM GO,

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WHETHER THEY DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT IT OR FOR WHATEVER REASON, YOU KNOW, AND A LOT OF 'EM BUYING THAT LAND AND THEN THEY DON'T KNOW THAT THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO.

THE ROOF SYSTEM ACTUALLY COMPROMISES THE LEVY BECAUSE, AND WE'VE ACTUALLY GOT A COUPLE OF LEVIES THAT NO LONGER, THEY DON'T HAVE A BOARD OR ANYTHING.

IT JUST KIND OF DISSOLVED.

WE'VE GOT LIKE $7,000 IN, WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, NOT A HUGE AMOUNT.

AND YOU KNOW, THAT'S THE BOAT ARK ISLAND LEVY, WHICH THAT BOARD'S SUPPOSED TO BE APPOINTED BY JOHN WILEY.

PRICE IS PRECINCT IN DALLAS COUNTY.

UH, ALTHOUGH SOMEBODY SAID, AND I CHECKED ON IT THAT THEY CHANGED IT TO WHERE THEY'RE ELECTED.

YOU GOTTA FIND SOMEBODY TO RUN FROM AND, UH, BUT THE ONLY ACTIVE BOARD IS THE ONE LEVY NUMBER ONE, WHICH IS DOWN THERE AT ROSSER.

AND THERE ARE SOME PEOPLE THAT STILL KEEP IT SOMEWHAT ACTIVE.

THEY HAVEN'T GOT ANY MONEY TO DO ANYTHING, BUT IT'S IN THE BEST SHAPE OF ANY OF THEM.

WHERE WOULD THEY GET THEM? THEY'RE TAXING IT.

THEY CAN LEVY TAXES TO THE PEOPLE IN THAT LEVY.

LEVY ZONING, OF COURSE, YOU'RE USUALLY ONLY TALKING, YOU KNOW, TWO OR THREE RANCHES OR FARMS. YEAH, THEY'RE GONNA, THEY GET MONEY FROM TO REDO THE LEVEES.

ACCORDING TO THE CORPS OF ENGINEERS, IT'S ABOUT A MILLION DOLLARS A MONTH TO REDO.

MAINLY BECAUSE SOME OF THEM CAN BE REPAIRED, WHICH WOULD BE A LITTLE LESS, BUT A NUMBER OF 'EM NEED TO BE MOVED, ADJUSTED, AND COMPLETELY REBUILT.

SO, AND, UH, I DON'T THINK WE WANT TO TOUCH THAT.

NOBODY DOES FEDERAL GOVERNMENT HAVE TO COME DO SOMETHING ON THAT? THAT THAT'S WHERE IT STANDS IS WE'D HAVE TO GET YOU HEARD ANYTHING FROM LAKE ABOUT HOW IT, THE DAM, THEY SAID THAT, UH, RIGHT NOW IT'S, IT'S STILL NEEDS WORK, BUT IT IS HOLDING THE NO ISSUES THAT THEY KNOW OF.

YEAH, I KNOW.

THEY'RE TRYING TO, CITY'S TRYING TO GET A GRANT, I THINK TO REDO THAT THING.

IF THAT ONE GOES, WE ARE GONNA HAVE PROBLEMS. YEAH, WE'LL, BUT HOPEFULLY IT'LL, UH, AND BY THE WAY, IF THAT ONE GOES THAT'S SENDS WALK, HE WON GOING SAY WE GONNA SEND IT TO JIMMY'S PHONE THAT WAY I CAN DO THAT.

I CAN, I GOT, OKAY, STEVE, WE'VE UH, WE'VE GOT YOUR, UH, BUDGET HERE AND, UH, YOU'VE MADE SOME REQUESTS.

LEMME TELL YOU WHAT WE'RE DOING TODAY.

WE'RE AT KIND OF A GENERAL PICTURE OKAY.

AND WE'RE NOT GONNA MAKE ANY DECISIONS TODAY.

WE'RE GONNA WRITE DOWN THINGS AND THEN COME BACK AND SEE WHERE WE'RE AFTER.

WE TALK TO EVERYBODY ABOUT THEIR BUDGETS AND, UH, WE DON'T HAVE A CLEAR PICTURE OF BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THE FINAL VALUES IN AND EVERYTHING.

UH, BUT, UH, IF YOU WANT TO KIND OF LIGHTEN US HERE AND YOU GOT ABOUT, UH, ABOUT 10 MINUTES TO, TO GET US WHERE WE NEED TO BE.

WELL, UH, AND WE TOOK UP SOME OF YOUR TIME.

THAT'S OKAY.

UH, A COUPLE OF THE FEW THINGS THAT I'VE ASKING FOR IS, AGAIN, ASKING, I'M STILL KIND OF HOLDING OUT A LITTLE HOPE THAT I CAN GET A NEW VEHICLE IN THIS, THIS BUDGET YEAR BECAUSE IT'S REALLY NEEDED.

BUT I DID PUT THAT BACK IN FOR NEXT YEAR JUST IN CASE.

UH, AND, UH, I KNOW THAT SO FAR KEEP, WHAT I'VE GOT GOING IS ALREADY BEEN ABOUT A LITTLE OVER $5,000 AND THAT IS MORE THAN THE BLUE BOOK VALUE FOR THE VEHICLE.

BUT, YOU KNOW, I DON'T HAVE MUCH OPTION.

IT'S EITHER KEEP WHAT I GOT GOING OR GET A NEW ONE.

AND HOW MANY MILES ON THAT VEHICLE? UH, GOING ON 181,000 AND I'M PUTTING RIGHT NOW WITH WHAT'S GOING ON, IT'S RACKING UP PRETTY QUICK.

OKAY.

IT'S IN 2000, 2004.

FOUR.

IT WAS ACTUALLY PURCHASED AND RECEIVED IN 2003 IN OCTOBER.

UH, SO, UH, AND IT, AND IT ALREADY HAS OTHER THINGS THAT NEED TO BE FIXED ON IT THAT ARE NOT CRITICAL.

SO I'M HOLDING OFF FIXING THOSE.

RIGHT.

UH, ONE THING THAT I WOULD ASK IS, SINCE WE PUT MONEY INTO THIS, IF WE, YOU KNOW, IF WE GET A NEW ONE, TRY AND SAVE SOME MONEY, WE COULD KEEP THIS REPAIR REPAIRS THAT HAVE BEEN MADE FOR MAYBE A YEAR OR SO AS A BACKUP.

IF MY, THE NEW ONE GOES TO THE SHOP FOR PREVENTATIVE MAINTENANCE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

MAYBE.

BUT, UH,

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FOLKS USE IT, YOU KNOW, HERE LOCALLY, UH, JUST FOR TRANSPORTATION.

I DON'T KNOW.

I, I'D RATHER IT MYSELF.

I'D RATHER GET, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING'S GOT 81,000 MILES ON IT.

I DUNNO.

I KNOW, I, I'M JUST TRYING TO FIND A WAY TO NEW OUGHT ANOTHER ONE DRIVEWAY.

YEAH.

I'M JUST TRYING, TRYING TO MAKE, DO WHAT I COULD TO, YOU KNOW, MAKE SURE WE DIDN'T JUST TOTALLY LOSE ALL THAT INVESTMENT.

RIGHT.

SO, UH, ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS IS, UH, MY TWO PART-TIME PEOPLE HAVE BEEN PAID FOR UNDER THE CRI GRANT IN THE LAST COUPLE THREE YEARS WHEN THE STATE TOOK THAT AWAY FROM NORTH CENTRAL TEXAS, CENTRAL GOVERNMENT GOVERNMENT MANAGING IT, THEIR REQUIREMENTS AND PAPERWORK, ESPECIALLY THE PAPERWORK HAS GOTTEN PROHIBITIVE.

DUSTIN SPENDS ABOUT 80% OF HIS TIME JUST DOING THE PAPERWORK TO KEEP THE GRANT.

SO ESSENTIALLY HE'S DOING, SPENDING MOST OF HIS TIME DOING THE PAPERWORK JUST TO KEEP HIS SALARY.

WHAT IS THE PAPERWORK? I MEAN, WHAT, WHAT ARE THEY SPECIFICALLY, WHAT WHAT WE HAVE TO, THERE'S CERTAIN REQUIREMENTS EXERCISES AND, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO SEND IN A FINANCIAL DEAL EVERY TIME WE PAY SOMEBODY WHEN THEIR SALARIES ARE PAID ONCE A MONTH, WE HAVE TO SEND IN THREE DIFFERENT FINANCIAL REPORTS TO THEM.

UH, AND SO WHO IS THEY? THEY IS THE DEPARTMENT OF STATE HEALTH SERVICES.

OKAY.

AND THEIR CONTRACT MANAGEMENT UNIT INVARIABLY FINDS SOMETHING WRONG EVERY SINGLE TIME, SENDS THEM BACK.

SO HE HAS TO GO BACK AND FIX IT.

UH, COULD YOU GET US A COPY OF THAT SO WE GOTTA KNOW WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT? SURE, I CAN DO THAT.

UH, BUT WHAT I DID THIS YEAR IS I ASKED TO MOVE, UH, ONE PERSON'S SALARY, WHICH IS MELISSA TO THE REGULAR COUNTY BUDGET, 16,000.

AND THEN, YOU KNOW, MOVE DUSTIN'S SALARY NEXT YEAR AND KIND OF, UH, YOU KNOW, MAKE IT A LITTLE EASIER ON THE COUNTY BUDGET.

NOW WHAT WE, WE'LL STILL HAVE THE GRANT FOR THIS YEAR, THE 16,000 WOULD BE ABLE TO GO INTO THE SUPPLIES CATEGORY FOR CRI SUPPLIES AND WE COULD USE THAT TOWARDS EQUIPMENT AND IMPROVEMENTS TO OUR EMERGENCY OPERATIONS CENTER.

SO WE, YOU KNOW, IT'S STILL GONNA BE THERE TO HELP US.

IT JUST WOULDN'T BE FOR THE SALARIES.

NOW THAT WOULD BE GRANT MONEY OR THE 16,000 YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.

I'M TAKING, TALKING ABOUT 16,000, TAKING IT OUT OF THE GRANT AND THE COUNTY PAYING FOR IT.

YOU WANT CHANGE THAT IN THE TOWER? YEAH.

OKAY.

UM, AND, UH, I WISH I'D ASKED FOR IT THIS YEAR SINCE WHAT'S GOING ON, BUT I REALLY NEED A FULL TIME EMPLOYEE AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE BECAUSE IT, IT JUST GETS A LITTLE, UH, A LITTLE TAXING SOMETIMES.

BUT IT DIDN'T, DIDN'T DO THAT THIS YEAR BECAUSE TRYING TO MAKE THIS CHANGE, UH, THE, YOU LAST YEAR WE HAD THE EMERGENCY NOTIFICATION SYSTEM.

I WAS ABLE TO GET A GRANT THAT COVER THIS YEAR.

IT NEEDS TO GO BACK IN THERE, UH, THIS YEAR.

SO, AND BRING THAT TO YOUR ATTENTION THAT, YOU KNOW, UH, IT'S NOT SOMETHING NEW.

IT IS JUST THAT THIS YEAR IT WAS PAID FOR BY A GRANT.

WHAT IS THAT? OUR EMERGENCY NOTIFICATION SYSTEM? 27 5.

THAT'S 7 27.

THAT'S CORRECT.

AND SO THAT WON'T BE PAID BY GRANT YEAR? THAT'S CORRECT.

IT WAS A ONETIME ONE TIME A GRANT.

DID THAT, THAT COST THAT MUCH EVERY YEAR? YES, SIR.

WELL, SEVEN FIVE THAT CALL IN THE MIDDLE OF NIGHT.

AND ONE, THE, THE SYSTEM THAT WE USED TO NOTIFY COUNTY RESIDENTS OF SEVERE WEATHER FLOODING.

YOU GOT THAT ON YOUR PHONE.

I DON'T UNDERSTAND.

YOU MEAN THE, THE GRANT PAID FOR THE SYSTEM FIRST YEAR? WELL, WE'RE PAYING SOMEBODY TO DO THAT FOR, AND IT'S, IT'S A, IT IS A SOFTWARE SYSTEM.

OH.

AND EVERY YEAR WE HAVE FAMILY $27,000 TO USE IT.

MM-HMM .

BASICALLY.

YEAH.

AND THAT'S BUT AREN'T WE GETTING REIMBURSEMENT FROM SOME OF THE CITY TO OWN THAT? YES.

WE, WE DID GET SOME FROM TER AND I THINK COMBINE, UH, MAYBANK AND KEMP I THINK ARE, HAVE WE RECEIVED THOSE OR DO YOU REMEMBER? WE, WE DID LAST YEAR.

WE HAVE NOT THIS YEAR.

WHAT DID THAT TOLD? YEAH.

UM,

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I'D HAVE TO GO PULL A REPORT.

OKAY.

I DON'T KNOW.

BUT LIKE, I KNOW POINTY DOES A REVERSE.

TERRELL DOES A REVERSE REVERSE TOO.

NOW TERRELL'S IS, IS USING OUR, THEY'RE PAYING US THEIR OWN.

THEY'RE PAYING US TO USE THEIR, AND POINTY JUST DOES THEIR OWN POINT IS DOING THEIR OWN.

UH, SO ESSENTIALLY, SO MOST OF THE CITIES ARE PAYING US, BUT THEY , CORRECT? YEAH.

THE CITY.

YEAH.

IT SOUNDS LIKE, YOU KNOW, SO 27, THAT'S THE COST OF THE, BY THE CITY.

I'M GONNA SAY ABOUT EIGHT, 9,000.

SO WE ASK YOU 9,000 LESS THAN 27 5.

WELL, WE ASKED FOR THAT SHOW UP, BUT THEN, THEN IT SHOWS UP IN REVENUE.

OKAY.

YEAH.

IT SHOWS.

I'M GETTING A REPORT RAN.

I'LL BE, I'LL HAVE IT SHORTLY, BUT, UH, THE, THE GRANT WAS ACTUALLY SUPPOSED TO BE FOR THE FIRST YEAR.

I REMEMBER THAT.

AND, AND BECAUSE THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT DID THEIR SHUTDOWN THING MESSED IT UP.

WE PAID FOR THE FIRST YEAR THE GRANT COST THE SECOND YEAR.

RIGHT.

I REMEMBER THERE WAS A YEAR DELAY WHEN WE THOUGHT WE WERE GONNA, UM, STEVE, WHAT, HOW MANY PEOPLE DO WE HAVE ON THAT SYSTEM? THERE'S ABOUT 26,000 THAT ARE CURRENTLY ON THAT.

CURRENTLY NOW WE GET AN ANNUAL UPDATE OF WHITE PAGE AND YELLOW PAGE PHONE NUMBERS.

WE HAVE AN OPT-IN PORTAL, WHICH ARE THE CELL PHONES, AND WE'RE PROBABLY AROUND 3,500 TO 4,000 PEOPLE THAT ARE REGISTERED RIGHT NOW.

AND WE'RE GETTING CALLS EVERY DAY TO ADD PEOPLE LEFT AND RIGHT WITH THE FLOODING GOING ON.

SO, SO DO, WHY IS IT, EXCUSE ME, I'M SORRY.

THE, THE, UH, UH, PAINT, YOU SAID PAINT, YOU MENTIONED Y PAPER.

I'M CURIOUS ABOUT THAT.

DO YOU, SO YOU GO IN THERE AND LIST EVERYBODY ON Y DO YOU DO THIS? UH, THEY PROVIDE AN INFO.

COME ON FOLKS.

THE S BROKE, THEY PROVIDE A DATA TRANSFER, SIR.

THEY PROVIDE A DATA TRANSFER.

YES.

IT'S A DATE OF TRANSFER UPDATE.

UH, UH, THE WHITE PAGE AND YELLOW PAGE.

WELL, THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING, BUT WE'RE PUTTING THEM ON THERE OURSELVES.

WE'RE NOT ASKING THEM.

THEY'RE DOING, THEY DO IT FOR US.

THEY DO IT FOR US.

THEY DO THAT FOR US.

THEY DO.

I UNDERSTAND.

I'M SAYING WE'RE JUST DOING THAT.

PEOPLES NOT REQUESTING TO BE ON THERE.

THERE'S IF, IF THEY HAVE A HOME PHONE, THEY'RE JUST AUTOMATICALLY, THEY AUTOMATICALLY GET IT.

IF THEY CALL AND SAY, I DON'T WANT THAT, WE CAN TAKE THEM OFF.

OKAY.

NOW IS THAT A RING? IT RINGS THEIR HOME PHONE.

YES, SIR.

OKAY.

A HOME PHONE, MY CELL PHONE AND I THINK I GOT AN EMAIL, TEXT OR SOMETHING.

MM-HMM .

I DO EVERYTHING I CAN TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY KNOWS WHAT'S GOING ON.

YEAH.

AND YOU KNOW, I GUESS, UH, IT'S ONE OF THOSE DEALS THAT IT IS EXPENSIVE, BUT IF YOU ARE OUT IN THE MIDDLE OF NOWHERE AND YOU DON'T HAVE A SIREN, AND I, I KNOW THE SIRENS THAT GO OFF AND TEAR, I HEAR THEM, BUT NOT AS WELL.

AND THE SIRENS ARE MEANT FOR OUTDOORS.

IF YOU'RE OUTSIDE, OUTSIDE, THAT'S WHERE YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO HEAR THOSE.

BUT I GUESS IF, YOU KNOW, WE HAD LIKE HAPPEN TO HOING, YOU KNOW, A COUPLE YEARS AGO, OF COURSE IF THEY LISTEN TO RADIO OR, UH, YOU KNOW, OR THROUGH, UH, WHATEVER, I MEAN, THEY GET SOME NOTIFICATION OF IT.

SO HOW DO YOU, HOW DO YOU BILL THE CITIES? UH, A PERCENTAGE OR HOW DO YOU DO THAT? IT'S BASED ON THE POPULATION.

POPULATION AND UH, I THINK IT'S LIKE 40 CENTS PER PERSON BASED UPON THEIR POPULATION.

IT'S NOT MUCH JUDGE.

MORNING, MORNING JUDGE.

EVERY, EVERY SINGLE PERSON.

SO THEY HAVE CELL AND THAT WILL DOLLAR 20? NO, NO, CHRIS ON THEIR CENSUS POPULATION.

THIS CENSUS POPULATION.

OKAY.

SO WHETHER THEY SIGNED OR NOT, THEN WE, IF I TWO, THEY'RE FOR HUNDRED TWO AND WE HAVE 30,000 .

YEAH, I KNOW.

THAT'S THE OVERALL PROGRAM IS BASED ON POPULATION.

BUT, BUT NOT, THEY'RE NOT, THEY'RE NOT GONNA GO UP ON THAT PRICE ANYTIME SOON BECAUSE THERE'S A, THERE'S A RANGE AND WE'RE NOWHERE NEAR THOSE RANGE.

BUT THE BEST WAY TO, TO GET THAT OUT TO THE CITIES WAS TO GO ABOUT POPULATION.

STEVE.

OKAY.

SO WHAT, WHAT ELSE DO YOU HAVE? THE OTHER IS THE EOC EQUIPMENT.

WE'VE GOT A REALLY GOOD EOC, BUT IT STILL NEEDS SOME THINGS TO MAKE IT, YOU KNOW, A HUNDRED PERCENT FUNCTIONAL.

WE DON'T HAVE ANY,

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UH, MONITORS OR ANY KIND OF COMMUNICATIONS EQUIPMENT OR ANYTHING IN THERE RIGHT NOW, UH, TO, TO MAKE IT FULLY FUNCTIONAL.

SO DID THERE BE GRANT MONEY AVAILABLE, UH, FOR THAT THERE, THERE MAY BE.

UH, THERE USED TO BE AN EOC GRANT, BUT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT HAD CUT IT DOWN TO $4 MILLION NATIONWIDE.

RIGHT.

ONCE WE GET OUR HAZARD MITIGATION PLAN APPROVED, WILL THAT OPEN UP SOME OF THAT FUNDING? NOT FOR THE ELC, WON'T IT? PRETTY MUCH EVERYTHING, BUT, ALRIGHT.

I'M GOING TO AN EOC OR WHATEVER BOARD IT IS.

I-E-P-P-C-E-P-P-C MEETING.

UH UH, THAT CALLED ON I THINK THURSDAY OF THIS WEEK.

WEDNESDAY OR THURSDAY.

AND SO I'LL LEMME DO A LITTLE DIGGING AND SEE WHAT I CAN FIND OUT.

LIKE A, A COPIER.

YOU HAVE A COPIER IN YOUR OFFICE.

WE'VE GOT ONE THAT SHARED BETWEEN US AND TRAINING.

OKAY.

SO, UH, WILL THE 9 1 1 CENTER AND JACK, I DON'T KNOW WHETHER, IF, I KNOW YOU TAKE CARE OF THE COPIER, BUT I ASSUME THE 9 1 1 CENTER WILL NEED A COPY MACHINE, I WOULD THINK.

AND BUT THIS COPY YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT WOULD BE USED WOULD BE IN THE EOC CENTER, BUT IT WOULDN'T BE USED BILL THE TIME, WOULD IT? WELL, EXCEPT WHENEVER WE HAD AN EMERGENCY, IT COULD POSSIBLY BE USED FOR OTHER THINGS.

WHAT I WAS, AND THAT WAS KIND OF A PLACEHOLDER.

YEAH, I MEAN THAT'S NOT THE, NOT A DEFINITIVE LIST.

THAT'S JUST SAMPLES OF WHAT WE MIGHT NEED IN THERE, UH, TO HELP MAKE IT MORE FUNCTIONAL.

OKAY.

JACK AND KAREN.

UM, BUT DIDN'T WE JUST ALLOCATE $200,000 TO UPDATE FOR EQUIPMENT IN THE ELC? THAT, THAT WAS AN IT THAT WAS IT ALWAYS ALL IT STUFF.

MM-HMM .

I THOUGHT WE SAID SOMETHING ABOUT FURNITURE NOT IN THAT.

OKAY.

NO, WE HAD, WE HAD MOVED SOME MONEY TO PAY FOR EOC FURNITURE.

MM-HMM .

AND, UM, DISPATCH TABLES OR, OR SOMETHING.

CONSOLE.

CONSOLE, UH, OVER TO A NEW LOCATION.

UH, BOTH OF 'EM WERE RIGHT AROUND $11,000.

WHAT KIND FURNITURE IS IT? NOT IT'S, IT'S NOT FURNITURE.

YOURS IS MY FURNITURE'S THERE.

OKAY.

IT'S THE DISPLAYS ON THE WALLS AND THE MAPS AND THE MAP HOLDERS AND YOU KNOW, COFFEE POT AND REFRIGERATOR.

AND ARE THE OFFICES IN THERE? FURNITURE THE OFFICER IN, IN THE, IN THE DISPATCH.

IN THE EL NOT IN THE DISPATCH, BUT IN THE CON LIKE CONFERENCE ROOM, THERE'S A WHAT, ONE OR TWO OFFICES OFF THE SIDE SIDE? ARE THEY FURNISHED? WE JUST HAVE ONE BIG ROOM.

IT MUST BE IN THE DISPATCH.

IN THE DISPATCH CENTER.

THERE'S A COUPLE.

DOES THAT, ARE THOSE FURNISHED WITH THAT RADIO EQUIPMENT MONEY? UH, NOT WITH THE, ARE THEY FURNISHED AT ALL? THE ONLY, THE ONLY PART OF THE FURNITURE WOULD BE INCLUDED.

THAT WOULD BE THE ACTUAL, WHERE THE DISPATCHER SITS.

RIGHT.

THE CONSOLE THAT HAS ALL THE, YOU KNOW, THE CONFIGURATIONS THERE.

THAT'S, THAT'S ONLY THING PART OF THAT.

AND SO WE HAVE NO FURNITURE IN THE NEW OFFICES.

WE DO HAVE FURNITURE IN NEW, BUT IT'S NOT OUT AT $200,000.

YOU SPOKE OF.

IS IT NEW OR IS IT RELOCATION SOME OTHER PLACE OR, UH, IT'S NEW 'CAUSE THEY'RE STILL USING THE STUFF AT THE OCEAN.

RIGHT.

RIGHT.

I UNDERSTAND.

AND IN THAT REGARD, I DID GET A CALL, UH, UH, LAST WEEK, UH, TOWARDS THE END OF THE WEEK FROM THE COG.

AND THERE IS A PRETTY GOOD CHANCE THEY'RE GOING TO REIMBURSE US FOR THE CONSOLE FURNITURE, CONSOLE FURNITURE THAT WE HAVE AND THEY'VE ASKED US TO PUT TOGETHER AND THAT'S WHAT KAREN WILL BE WORKING ON AT JACK, PUT TOGETHER THE INVOICES WE HAVE FOR THAT 9 1 1 CONSOLE FURNITURE AND YOU KNOW, SO WE'RE HOPING THAT THAT COMES ABOUT, BUT WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING IN WRITING YET.

BUT IT WOULD BE SOMEWHERE AROUND $120,000.

SO THAT'LL, THAT'LL BE A GOOD THING.

OKAY.

LAST YEAR IN 2014 WE BUDGETED 11,000 FOR THE CO-OP EMERGENCY NOTIFICATION SYSTEM FOR THOSE ENTITIES THAT PARTICIPATED TO REIMBURSE US.

UH, WE RECEIVED 8,000.

UH, THIS YEAR WE HAVE BUDGETED 15,000 BUT WE HAVE NOT RECEIVED ANY FUNDS YET.

WE DIDN'T PAY FOR IT, SO WE DIDN'T INVOICE HIM IF IT, YOU KNOW, SO FOR THIS YEAR.

FOR THIS YEAR, YEAH.

WHAT ABOUT LAST YEAR? THE $3,000 IN DIFFERENCE? DID DO WE KNOW WHO DIDN'T PAY? MAYBE YOU CAN GET WITH KAREN AND WELL FIND THAT OUT.

SOME OF KAUFMAN HAD INDICATED THAT THEY MIGHT, BUT THEY NEVER DID.

OKAY.

UH, CAROL PAY.

CAROL PAY.

UH,

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MAYBANK PAID COMBAT PAY.

UH, I DON'T THINK KEMP PAID BECAUSE THEY GOT IT.

THEY CAME IN LATE.

YEAH.

BUT THEY HAVE COMMITTED TO WHICH WE WOULD GET THAT IN THIS NEXT BUDGET.

WE JUST NEED TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE AWARE OF IT IF WE CAN CONTINUE DOING IT, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE I MEAN, IT'S A GOOD SERVICE FOR US TO PROVIDE, BUT THE CITY I WOULD THINK WOULD WANT TO HELP OUT A LITTLE BIT WITH IT TOO.

SO, AND, AND MOST OF 'EM SEEM TO BE WILLING TO DO THAT.

YEAH, WELL WITH EVERYTHING THAT'S HAPPENED THIS YEAR WITH ALL THE FLOODING AND EVERYTHING, THAT WAS TOO.

OKAY.

WHAT ELSE DO YOU HAVE? UH, I DID A LITTLE ADJUSTMENT ON, UH, MY PARTS AND REPAIRS.

UH, WENT UP A THOUSAND DOLLARS ON THAT.

IS THAT PRIMARILY FOR THE VEHICLE? IT'S VEHICLE.

OKAY.

IT ALSO INCLUDES RADIOS AND OTHER THINGS.

YEAH.

BUT THIS YEAR IT IS FENCE DOWN VEHICLE.

OKAY.

AND I JUST WANTED TO TRY AND ACCURATELY REFLECT OR REQUEST WHAT I WAS SEEING.

YEAH.

AND IF WE ARE, YOU KNOW, ABLE TO DO A VEHICLE THAT WOULD CERTAINLY, HOPEFULLY COME DOWN.

WELL IF, IF WE, IF WE GET A NEW VEHICLE, YOU KNOW, IN THIS BUDGET YEAR OR, YOU KNOW, I DON'T WANT, I DON'T WANT TO UPSET ANYBODY, BUT, YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY AGREED LAST YEAR, IF YOU GET ONE THIS YEAR AND WE DIDN'T DO IT AND THERE WAS TALK ABOUT CUTTING THE BUDGET THEN ON THE PARTS AND REPAIRS, IF WE HAD DONE THAT, THAT WOULD'VE BEEN A REALLY BIG HERD ON MY BUDGET.

SO, UH, I WOULD REQUEST THAT WE NOT GO ANY LOWER THAN WE ALREADY HAVE IT.

I MEAN IF YOU DON'T WANT TO ADD A THOUSAND, I I UNDERSTAND, BUT THIS YEAR IT IS 4,500 AND I WOULD, YOU KNOW, REQUEST THAT WE NOT LOWER THAT UNTIL AFTER, YOU KNOW, WE CAN GET A VEHICLE IN HAND.

RIGHT.

WHAT ALL DID YOU HAVE TO DO YOUR VEHICLE THIS YEAR? THIS YEAR WE STARTED OFF WITH UH, BALL JOINTS AND THEN WE DID UH, TWO WHEEL BEARINGS ON THE LEFT SIDE.

UH, SHOCKS, STRUTS, ALTERNATOR.

I THINK THERE WAS SOMETHING ELSE BUT I, I CAN'T REMEMBER.

TIRES.

I THINK TIRES, UH, I STILL GOT, I STILL DON'T HAVE ANY BACKUP LIGHTS.

MY EMERGENCY EQUIPMENT DOESN'T WORK ALL THE TIME.

LIGHTS, CONCERN, SOMETIMES EQUIP BACK UP MANAGEMENT THAT'S NEVER BACKED UP GOING.

FIRST TIME I RUN THROUGH THE FENCE, I'LL, YOU DON'T RETRIEVE WHAT? HOW'S THE ENGINE IN? TRANSMISSION? ENGINE IS STILL IN PRETTY GOOD SHAPE.

TRANSMISSION SEEMS TO BE SLIPPING A LITTLE BIT.

THAT'S MY NEXT MAJOR CONCERN IS, IS THE TRANSMISSION.

I FIGURE 2025.

YEAH.

OKAY.

ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STEVE OR ANYTHING ELSE? STEVE, YOU WANTED TO SAY? I DON'T KNOW OF ANYTHING ELSE THAT I, STEVE, I DO HAVE A QUESTIONS.

YES MA'AM.

ON YOUR SECOND SHEET, UM, UNDER, UM, THE LEASE AND PURCHASE OF THE VEHICLE, YOU HAVE 18,000 AND THEN ON THE FRONT SHEET YOU HAVE 12,000.

WHICH ONE IS IT? 18.

OKAY.

THE 12.

I THINK WHAT I DID IS THE 12 WAS BASED UPON A PREVIOUS YEARS PRICING AND YOU KNOW, I DIDN'T UPDATE THAT WHEN I CHANGED IT.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

AND IT, AND IT MAY COME IN LESS THAN THAT.

THAT'S JUST THE ESTIMATION ON UH, YOU KNOW, DOING A LEASE PURCHASE.

WELL, UH, YOU DON'T NEED TO GO THROUGH PURCHASING 'CAUSE IT DEPENDS ON WHAT THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT APPROVES ON WHAT DEPARTMENTS WILL GET IN THE VEHICLES SO WE CAN GET THE BEST THING FOR THE BUCK.

RIGHT.

SO, AND I'LL ARRANGE THE FINANCING.

OKAY.

I DON'T DO ANYTHING WITHOUT TALKING TO JACK, BUT OKAY.

WELL, AND WE'VE GOT, YOU KNOW, THAT'S UH, WE WILL PROBABLY WIND UP PURCHASING SOME ADDITIONAL VEHICLES BUT WE JUST KIND OF SEEING ONE REASON.

JUST SEE WHAT WE MAY NEED TO PURCHASE.

WELL IF WE, THE SOONER WE GET IT, THE BETTER IT WILL BE FOR ME.

YEAH.

AND YOU KNOW, I'LL ATTACH IT IN OR SING IT FUNERAL OR WHATEVER YOU WANT.

IF WE CAN DO THAT.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU.

ALRIGHT, I HANDED YOU THE, UH, MR. OFIELD WENT DOWN AND YOU SEE THE LISTINGS WHERE HE'S UNDER LINE THE AMOUNT.

STEVE, YOU MIGHT WANT TO HEAR THIS TOO.

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UH, THE LEVY, I THINK YOU GOT A, DID YOU GET A COPY OF UH, YES I DID.

OKAY.

YOU CAN SEE WHERE WE HAVE ABOUT, I DIDN'T REALIZE WE HAD THAT MUCH MONEY IN THOSE LEVY FUNDS.

WELL WE DO IN LEVEE ONE IT HAS QUITE A AND LEVY SIX.

LEVY ONE IS STILL ACTIVE.

LEVY SIX IS NOT.

YEAH.

BODO ISLAND, THAT'S THE ONE THAT'S REALLY IN DALLAS COUNTY.

YES SIR.

BUT WE HAVE A $7,000, UH, CASH, UH, THERE.

UH, AND UH, BUT WE CAN'T SPEND IT BECAUSE I MEAN THEY CAN'T DO ANYTHING WITH IT BECAUSE THERE'S NO BOARD TO, WE'D HAVE TO HAVE A BOARD TO BE ABLE TO TAKE ACTION.

WHAT ABOUT NUMBER SIX WAS A LOT OF MONEY.

IS THERE A BOARD THERE? NO SIR.

NO.

LE ONE IS THE ONLY ONE THAT'S GOT, THAT'S THE ONLY BOARD IS ONE.

WHAT, WHAT AREA IS SIX? I HONESTLY COULDN'T TELL YOU UNLESS I PULLED THE MAP UP AND LOOKED AT IT.

THAT'D BE INTERESTING KIND OF FOR US TO KNOW SO WE COULD MAYBE GET TOGETHER IF IT'S WHO APPOINTS THE LEVY BOARD MEMBERS ARE THEY ELECTED THE BOAR ISLAND IN 2005 EVEN THOUGH THERE WASN'T A BOARD LEGISLATURE CHANGED THAT TO FOR THEM TO BE ELECTED.

NOBODY'S RUN FOR IT.

SO THERE'S BEEN NO ELECTION THAT THAT THAT'S THE VOTE.

ARCH ISLAND.

OKAY.

THIS THE OTHERS, I WANT TO SAY THAT THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT IS SUPPOSED TO A APPOINT IT, BUT I'M NOT SURE.

I'LL HAVE TO LOOK INTO YEAH.

AND SEE WHERE WE, UH, ARE NOW LEVY ONE IS ACTIVE.

YES SIR.

OKAY.

UH, BOB MITCHELL AND UH, I DON'T REMEMBER HIS NAME.

SEAN PORTER'S DAD IS ON THAT BOARD WITH A COUPLE OTHER FOLKS, BUT UH, THE REST OF THEM ARE, ARE NOT ACCURATE, BUT MAYBE SIX.

THEY'VE GOT 68,000.

THEY'RE NOT AN ACTIVE WELL WE FIND OUT WHERE THAT IS.

WE, NO SIR.

I I I'D HAVE TO LOOK AT THANK YOU MIGHT DO IT RIGHT NOW.

SO WE GOT A TOTAL OF FOUR DISTRICTS.

LEVY DISTRICTS GOT 1 5 15 AND SIX FOUR.

WHAT ABOUT LEVY FIVE 18 SPARE? YEAH.

AND IT MAY BE THAT PUBLIC WORKS HAS THIS OR DO THEY ALWAYS BEEN UNDER EMERGENCY MEETING? OKAY.

ALRIGHT, THAT MAKES SENSE.

YOU CAN THAT YOU STILL DOING 1115 FOR THE YEAH.

OKAY, WE'LL WE'LL DO IT.

OKAY.

THANK YOU ALL.

UH, JUDGE CHI, IF I CAN COME UP, WE'RE RUNNING A LITTLE LATE BUT WE'RE MOVING AND MOVING ALONG HERE.

OKAY.

HOW ARE YOU? GOOD.

THANKS FOR DOING OKAY.

THANK YOU.

THANKS FOR BEING HERE.

YOU BET.

MINE SHOULD BE SIMPLE.

I THINK WE'RE DOING ONE TRANSFER OF THE LINE ITEM FROM THE 86TH TO MY COURT.

SAME AMOUNT OF MONEY EVERYWHERE ELSE AND UH, THAT'S JUST AN ADJUSTMENT, HOUSEKEEPING ADJUSTMENT TO TRANSFER THE REGION ONE ADMINISTRATING JUDGE'S EXPENSE ALLOCATED TO COLTON COUNTY FROM THE OLD PRESIDING JUDGE'S COURT TO THE NEW PRESIDING JUDGE'S COURT.

SO WHAT THAT DOES IS JUST, THAT'S A FEE WE HAVE TO PAY THEM.

UH, GOVERNMENT CODE PROVIDES THAT ALL COUNTIES WITHIN OUR ADMINISTRATIVE REGION PAYS A PRORATA SHARE COST OF THAT OFFICE.

AND SO, UH, KAREN GOT A STATEMENT, I THINK JUST A WEEK OR SO AGO FOR THIS AMOUNT OF MONEY, $7,006 AND BY STATUTE WE'RE OBLIGATED TO PAY IT.

RIGHT.

AND THAT WAS IN THE, UH, JUDGE, UH, THAT WAS IN JUDGE, UH, TAX COURT.

OF COURSE NOW YOU'RE THE SENIOR JUDGE, ADMINISTRATIVE JUDGE.

SO THAT ALL THAT DOES IS JUST TAKE IT OUT OF ONE.

WE JUST MOVES IT FROM ONE BUDGET TO THE OTHER.

OKAY.

EVERYTHING ELSE I THINK IS IDENTICAL.

JUDGE, WE'RE NOT DOING ANYTHING TODAY ON, UH, SALARIES OR ADDITIONAL PERSONNEL OR ANYTHING, WHICH YOU DON'T ASK FOR ANYTHING.

BUT, UH, WE'LL COME BACK AT SOME POINT, YOU KNOW, HERE THE NEXT MONTH OR TWO AND WE'LL ACTUALLY BY BEFORE THE END OF JUNE AND DECIDE WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO, UH, WHAT WE'LL BE TO DO ON, ON SALARIES FOR A YEAR.

UH, UH, FOR YOUR FAULT, YOURS IS SET BY THE STATE OF COURSE, BUT, UH, UH, ANYBODY HAVE ANY, ANY QUESTIONS ON THE ASSISTANT COURT COORDINATOR THAT WE GAVE YOU FOR THE MURDER TRIALS? YES, SIR.

IS UH, IS THAT OVER NOW? UH, WE'VE GOT FIVE PENDING A COUPLE MURDER CASES IN ROCKWELL OR HERE OR MY COURT.

OKAY.

YES SIR.

WELL, AT THE TIME YOU STATED THAT YOU NEEDED THAT HER OR THE POSITION BECAUSE THE CASE WAS IN ROCKWELL AND THE PERSON AT EACH LOCATION TO

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WELL, NOT EXACTLY, THAT'S NOT WHAT I SAID.

WHAT I SAID WAS THAT JENNIFER WOULD BE COORDINATING, UH, THE JURY OR DIRE PROCEEDINGS.

SHE'LL BE DOING THE SAME THING FOR MY BROWNLOW CASES.

SO BASICALLY HER DUTIES WERE GOING TO BE IDENTICAL TO WHAT THEY WERE.

UH, SHE DID MOST OF THAT COORDINATION FROM THE OFFICE HERE IN KAUFMAN DURING THE COURSE OF THE TRIAL ITSELF, SHE WAS OVER IN ROCKWELL.

SO THAT'S STILL A NECESSARY POSITION.

ABSOLUTELY, YES.

THAT ASSISTANT COURT COORDINATORS ALSO PERFORMING OTHER FUNCTIONS LIKE FILLING IN FOR UH, THE INDIGENT DEFENSE COORDINATOR, UH, BACKUP FOR WHEN ANNETTE'S OUT OF POCKET.

SO SHE'S ACTUALLY PERFORMING OTHER FUNCTIONS OUTSIDE.

YES, SIR.

OUTSIDE.

IS SHE HELPING UP IN JUDGE, UH, BLAIR'S COURT? SO, WELL BOTH JENNIFER AND SHE YOU'RE HELPING JUDGE BLAIR WHILE HE'S OUT OF A COORDINATOR RIGHT NOW.

YES.

YES.

WE, YEAH, YOU KNOW, WE FOREVER HAVE ALWAYS ASSISTED EACH OTHER'S COURTS AS NEEDED.

RIGHT.

AND UH, UH, THEY'RE PROVIDED QUITE A BIT OF ASSISTANCE RIGHT NOW.

OKAY.

OTHER QUESTIONS? NO, SIMPLE.

ALRIGHT.

YOU BET YOU TANYA, YOU COME UP HAVE THREE BUDGETS.

7, 4, 10.

YOU NEED A HOT I TRYING THE OKAY, THE FOUR 10 BUDGET.

IT HURTS.

HEAR YOU TALK.

NOT UM, UH, BIG CHANGE HERE IS DECREASED EXTRA HELP I HAVE AND, UM, DECREASED SOME OF THE OFFICE SUPPLIES, BUT THAT MONEY IN OFFICE SUPPLIES THAT DECREASED WAS ACTUALLY TO BE ABLE TO MOVE DOWN TO MILES, BILLS AND LODGING AND TRAINING EDUCATION CONFERENCE BECAUSE WHEN IT'S A ELECTION, WHEN'S A, A YEAR, A LEGISLATIVE YEAR AND THEN NEXT YEAR THEY HAVE TWO LARGE CONFERENCES FOR ELECTIONS TO EXPLAIN ALL THE NEW LAWS THAT HAD COME OUT WITH ELECTIONS.

AND I NEED MORE MONEY IN THAT POT NEXT YEAR FOR THAT.

SO I'M MOVING STUFF FROM SUPPLIES.

SO I'M NOT ASKING FOR MORE MONEY.

I'M JUST GONNA CHANGE WHERE IT IS RIGHT NOW FROM SUPPLIES DOWN TO MILL AND LODGING AND TRAINING EDUCATION CONFERENCE.

I'M NOT HAVE THIS AROUND THERE.

SORRY.

YEAH, I, WE GOT HERE Y'ALL, WE EMAILED IT I THINK.

YEAH, I GOT, YEAH, I GOT FIVE COPIES.

YEAH, I GOT FIVE COPIES.

OKAY.

THIS FOUR 10 BUDGET, THE FOUR 10.

OKAY.

THERE WAS ONE OTHER FOUR 90.

OKAY.

THERE IS A MAJOR CHANGE IN THE FOUR 10 IN THAT EVERY OTHER YEAR WE'RE REQUIRED TO SEND OUT THESE VOTER VERIFICATION CARDS.

RIGHT.

BUT WE'VE ALREADY GOT OUR QUOTES, WHICH IS WHAT THIS NUMBER IS BASED ON HERE.

OKAY.

ON HOW MUCH IT'S GONNA COST US TO DO THAT BECAUSE WE HAVE TO SEND IT TO OVER 60,000 VOTERS AND DO THE ADDRESS CERTIFICATIONS AND THEN WE HAVE TO DO THEIR CARDS.

AND SO THAT'S WHAT THAT COST IS GONNA BE 24 5.

IS THAT THROUGH A VENDOR? WE USE THAT SERVICE, YES.

AND SO BASICALLY I DECREASED THE BUDGET BY 1500 BUT THEN I HAD TO ADD IN THE MASS MAIL OUT.

SO I DID TAKE A GOOD HARD LOOK AT SOME OF THESE THINGS AND THAT'LL GO OUT, THOSE CARDS GO OUT LIKE IN I GET DECEMBER NO LATER IN THE YEAR, RIGHT? YEAH.

SO THE LEFT WOULD BE NEXT YEAR.

SO THE BIG COSTS ON THAT AND ONE OF THE BIG COSTS ON THAT IS, UM, POSTAGE.

RIGHT.

DO THEY ON POSTAGES, YOU KNOW, UM, THEY CAN'T CHARGE YOU MORE THAN WHAT THE POSTAGE COSTS ARE.

OKAY.

SO

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THAT'S WHY FOUR 10 BUDGET.

SO THE TOTAL, IT GOES FROM 62 5 90 TO 85? YES.

AND THAT IS DUE TO THE MASS.

OKAY.

ALRIGHT.

THE FOUR 90 BUDGET.

AND I NEED TO CHANGE THIS ONE FOR EVERYBODY BECAUSE I HAD A MISUNDERSTANDING ON THE INTERPRETATION OF THE LAW AND SO I PUT DIFFERENT, UM, AMOUNTS OF MONEY IN HERE SO Y'ALL COULD SWITCH OUT WHAT YOU CURRENTLY HAVE FOR THIS THINK THANK YOU PART.

THAT'S ONE OF THOSE TWO.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

UM, AND THEN HAVE FOR EACH OF YOU SOME ACTIVE INFORMATION ON WHAT I'M DOING IN THIS PARTICULAR FOUR 90 BUDGET IS I'M ASKING YOU TO CONSIDER WE'RE READY FOR AN ELECTIONS ADMINISTRATOR.

OKAY.

AND I PUT DOWN SOME RESEARCH THAT I HAD DONE ON ELECTION ADMINISTRATORS, UM, JUST SO YOU'LL KNOW THAT, UM, OF ALL THE COUNTIES IN OUR POPULATION GROUP, WE WERE A LITTLE ABOVE AND BELOW IT, THERE'S ONLY THREE.

AND WHERE ONE OF THEM DON'T HAVE AN ELECTION ADMINISTRATOR, ONE OF 'EM HAS ELECTION COORDINATOR THAT THEY PAID $49,000 TO WORK FOR THE COUNTY CLERK.

AND THE OTHER ONE, UM, THEY JUST PLUS UP THE COUNTY CLERK WITH, UH, CLERKS .

EXACTLY.

WHAT IS DISPOSITION THAT THIS POSITION RIGHT NOW, THIS POSITION IS UNDERNEATH THE TAX ASSESSOR AND I GET A, UM, A $6,000 STIPEND TO GRANT ELECTIONS.

UH, I'M NOT AN ELECTIONS ADMINISTRATOR, I'M THE COUNTY ELECTIONS COORDINATOR.

THIS TAKES IT FROM THE LEVEL OF WORKING FOR THE CLERK OF THE TAX ASSESSOR TO BE IN THEIR OWN DEPARTMENT, KINDA LIKE HR, UM, IN, IN TERMS OF HAVING, UM, AN APPOINTED PERSON AS THE ELECTIONS ADMINISTRATOR.

AND UM, THEN THE PEOPLE WHO ARE CURRENTLY ELECTIONS CLERKS AND THE VOTER REGISTRAR WOULD WORK FOR THAT PERSON SO THAT ALL THINGS VOTING COME UNDER ONE APPOINTED ELECTIONS ADMINISTRATOR AND THEY HANDLE EVERYTHING SEPARATELY.

AND IT'S NOT PART OF THE TAX OFFICE OR THE CLERK'S OFFICE, IT'S DIFFERENT COUNTIES HANDLING.

I DID WANT TO MENTION, AND I HAVE STATED AT THE BOTTOM OF THIS PAGE, AND JUST SO WE'RE CLEAR, IF YOU DO NOT FEEL AT THIS TIME THAT YOU'RE READY FOR AN ELECTIONS ADMINISTRATOR, I DO FEEL LIKE THE COUNTY IS READY TO GO THAT DIRECTION EVEN THOUGH IT WILL COST ME MONEY.

UM, BUT IF YOU ARE NOT, IF YOU DO NOT FEEL THAT WAY, I JUST WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT I STILL WANT TO KEEP ELECTIONS IN MY DEPARTMENT.

UH, DID WHEN YOU, WHEN YOU DID THIS, DID YOU LOOK LIKE IT, LIKE AT THE, THE SMALL LIKE HENDERSON STUFF, DID YOU SEE WHAT THEIR, MAYBE IT COSTS THEM FOR THEIR ADMINISTRATOR AND THEIR TWO HELPERS THAT YOU SAY THEY THEY HAD BUT THEY WERE ALSO UM, IN KAMAL? YEAH, THEY PAY, THEY PAY A, A WHAT THEY CALL ELECTIONS COORDINATOR FORTY NINE NINE NINE NINE SEVEN.

SO I WANT $50,000 TO BE THEIR ELECTIONS COORDINATOR AND WORK UNDER THE OFFICE OF THE CLERK CLERK AND, AND UM, BUT THAT'S NOT BEING IN, IN A SENSE, THAT'S NOT BEING THEIR OWN DEPARTMENT THERE.

NO, IT'S NOT.

THAT'S I'M SAYING THEY'RE JUST PAYING THE PERSON POP COME OUT IN WICHITA ARE THE EXCEPTION TO THE RULE.

YEAH, AND THAT'S WHAT I WAS SAYING.

I WONDERED IF YOU HAD A TENURE OF THE COST OF THAT DEPARTMENT, YOU KNOW, THAT THEY DID.

UH, NO.

HENDERSON COUNTY.

YEAH, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

I MEAN, COULD YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO COMPARE TO? WELL I CAN GET THE INFORMATION FROM HENDERSON COUNTY.

THAT GOTTA BE KIND OF NEAT TO HAVE JUST TO SEE IF IT'S A VIABLE OPTION FOR US.

I MEAN, BECAUSE I KNOW PHILLIP AND ALL THOSE GUYS WORK ALL THE TIME ANYWAY, THAT'S BASICALLY ALL THEY DO.

I MEAN WORK ON THAT DEPARTMENT, BUT IT'D BE KIND OF NEAT TO KNOW.

ALRIGHT, I'LL CHECK OUT WHAT I'M SAYING.

FIGURES WHAT THEY PAID HIM SO WE KNOW WHERE WE'RE GOING.

OKAY, I'LL GET THAT.

UM, BUT IF, UM, ON THE FOUR 90 BUDGET, IF YOU DO NOT WANT THE ELECTIONS CLERK, THE ELECTIONS ADMINISTRATOR, THEN I HAVE TO GIVE YOU A WHOLE DIFFERENT BUDGET.

SO WHEN THAT DECISION IS MADE, I'VE GOT A DIFFERENT BUDGET, YOU KNOW, THAT WOULD EXCLUDE.

I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE 57 DOWN 431 OH OKAY ON

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IT.

GO AHEAD.

NOT EXPLAIN THAT.

THAT MEANS THAT WE'RE GETTING TO SUBTRACT THAT MUCH MONEY FROM IT.

YEAH.

OKAY.

YES.

I MEAN HIS BUDGET'S GONNA COME IN , RIGHT? WELL, I MEAN THIS WAS NORMALLY IN THE IT AND THEN WE HAD, I HAVE ALL THE BACKUP FROM FROM HAR ALL OF WHAT? EVERYTHING ON HERE.

CONSIDERABLE LICENSE AND SUPPORT THE HARDWARE AND THE WARRANTY AND THE TRAINING.

OKAY.

THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT IT COMES UP TO ON THAT.

SO WHAT I WANT TO KNOW IS, DO YOU WANT TO TAKE THIS IN CONSIDERATE AND THEN GET BACK WITH YOU ON THE HEAD ACCOUNT INFORMATION WITHOUT HAVING THE OTHER YES.

TO CONFUSION? YES.

OKAY.

ALRIGHT.

THAT'S HOUSING OF THE .

WOULD THEY CONTINUE TO BE HOUSED? UH, WHERE THEY'RE NOW THEY COULD BE WITH THE EXCEPTION OF PART OF THAT LARGER OFFICE IS A SHARED BETWEEN THE TAX ASSESSOR.

WE CAP THAT OFFICE IN NOVEMBER THROUGH FEBRUARY TO ADD ON PART-TIME PARTS, PUT IN ALL THE US AS WE GET BY NOW AND THEN THE ELECTIONS OFFICES IT DURING THE ELECTION TIMES TO PUT OUT ALL THEIR STUFF.

SO WE WERE KEPT TO CONTINUE TO SHARE THE LARGER PART THAT'S BETWEEN THE WORD FELLOW SAID IT'S, AND WHERE THE DOOR IS TO COUNTER.

NOW WE, WE'VE GOT THE ROOM ADJACENT FOOD DOWN THE HALL THAT WERE CLEANED UP.

IT'S NOT OCCUPIED.

SO THERE IS POSSIBILITY THAT THEY COULD BE MOVED INTO THAT ROOM.

THEY WOULDN'T HAVE A SEPARATE OFFICE.

SO THAT WOULD PROVIDE EXTRA SPACE AND THAT WOULD REALLY BE HELPFUL.

WOULD THAT BE ENOUGH SPACE? YES.

AND IT'S A LITTLE MORE CONVENIENT FOR, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE COMING IN, ESPECIALLY IF THEY WANT COME IN AND REGISTER FOR NEXT YEAR.

AGAIN, AN ELECTIONS YEAR, RIGHT.

FOR A PRESIDENT.

DID YOU GET IT? UM, IT'S GONNA BE HUGE.

A NUMBER OF PEOPLE COMING IN TO REGISTER AND THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE COMING IN TO UH, SIGN UP TO REGISTER OTHER PEOPLE.

WE HAVE THAT ON A REGULAR BASIS WHERE WE TRAIN THEM REGISTERS.

SO TO BE CLEAR, TWO PEOPLE THAT ARE DOING THAT PRIMARY NOW, WHICH IS THEREA THERESA IS HELPING OUT BACK THERE.

OKAY.

UM, SHE IS STILL A CHIEF DEPUTY, BUT SHE IS HELPING COORDINATE ELECTIONS RIGHT NOW.

I GUESS PHILLIP IS A VOTER REGISTRAR.

THE CLERKS ARE RUTH AND JOSEPH.

UH, SO THE TWO ELECTRIC CLERK ARE WITHIN JOSEPH AND THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS THAT I COULD CUT DOWN THAT 1500 ON THE OTHER BUDGET WAS BECAUSE OF THE EXTRA HELP THAT WE HAVE DONE THERE.

WE DON'T NEED AS MUCH EXTRA HELP.

SO WE'RE ACTUALLY NOT TALKING ABOUT ADDING PERSONNEL? NO.

I GUESS WE WOULD PROBABLY MAKE PHILLIP DEPARTMENT, NOT NECESSARILY, BUT I MEANT, I MEAN KIND OF WAY.

WHAT WOULD YOU DO WITH HIM IF YOU DO? OH NO, HE, THE VOTER REGISTRAR IS REQUIRED IN EVERY COUNTY.

OKAY.

HE'S THE VOTER REGISTRAR, DEPUTY VOTER REGISTRAR.

AND THAT'S REQUIRED AND IT'S REQUIRED TO GO TO WORK UNDER THE EA.

SO, UM, I MEAN I WOULD GET APPOINTED BUT SAY THERESA GOT APPOINTED AS CEA, IT WOULD MEAN THAT I WOULD HAVE A, UM, A DIFFERENT POSITION OPEN IN MY OFFICE AND IF SHE DIDN'T THEN SOMEBODY ELSE WOULD EA AND SHE COME BACK TO MY OFFICE, YOU KNOW, UH, SO IT COULD MEAN AN EXTRA PERSON OR IT COULD MEAN DEPENDING ON HOW THINGS WORK THAT I LEARNED TO GET ALONG BOTH US IN THE TAX OFFICE.

SO, SO WE'RE LOOKING AT ONE POSITION FOR AN ADMINISTRATOR? YES.

AND THEN A NEW POSITION AND THEN WE'D MOVE FILL UP JUST, JUST ONE POSITION.

THEN WE MOVED PHILIP FROM YOUR OFFICE TO THE ELECT? YES, THE HAS WORK IN THE EA A AND THEN THE SUPPLEMENTS YOU'RE GETTING NOW WOULD GO THEN THE STIPEND THAT I'D GET WOULD NOT BE THERE.

RIGHT.

RIGHT.

SO THAT'S 6,000 SAVED ON THE TEXT SIDE, WHICH I, BUT THIS BUDGET LOOKS QUITE A BIT LARGER BECAUSE THE IT PART THAT CAME OVER AND THE REASON IT CAME FROM IT BACK TO THIS BUDGET IS BECAUSE GEORGE TOOK A LOOK AT IT AND DECIDED THAT IT'S BASICALLY ALL HARDWARE AND ALL SOFTWARE.

YEAH, IT'S HARDWARE RELATED.

SORRY, BUT EVERYTHING GLASS SHIELD.

I KNOW, BUT YOU DO ALL THAT.

UM, BUT ALL THIS STUFF AND HE'S READ ALL THIS, IT IS REALLY NOT SOFTWARE RELATED AND SO HE HAS ME TO TAKE IT BACK INTO MY BUDGET.

SO THAT'S WHY IT'S THERE.

AND

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I HAVE ALL THE BACKUP DOCUMENTATION AS TO WHY IT'S EXACT MARCH.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THE AND THE 500 BUDGET? UM, IF YOU NOTE OF THE 500 BUDGET, IT'S ALL IT IS IS UM, 6,000 LESS.

AND THAT'S ONLY IF WE GET AN EA IF THE COUNTY'S NOT READY TO UM, HAVE AN EA, THEN THAT WOULD, I WOULD PROBABLY SUBMIT ANOTHER LETTER.

PLUS I HAVE 6,000 BACK IN.

THERE'S A COUPLE OF CHANGES UM, IN DECREASING UM, COMPUTER RATES AND BONDS BY 5,000.

AND THE ONLY REASON I DID THAT WAS BECAUSE I AM CONCERNED ABOUT NOT HAVING ENOUGH MONEY IN MY, UM, LEVY IN MY ACCOUNT BECAUSE WE WENT WITH THE CHEAPEST COMPANY LAST YEAR AND THEY DID A REALLY CRAPPY JOB FOR US.

AND I DON'T WANT TO BE STUCK WITH A LOW BID.

I IS GOOD NEXT TIME, SO I'M TRYING TO FORCE UP A LEVY BUDGET.

UM, AND A COUPLE YEARS AGO WE HAD SOMEBODY REALLY GOOD AND IT COST US UH, OVER 42,000.

I WAS THINKING WOULD POSSIBLE COST INCREASE THAT 45 WOULD DEFINITELY COVER IT.

THERE BEEN A POSTAGE INCREASE TOO IN TWO YEARS.

I CAN'T REMEMBER IT.

I THINK THE, I THINK IT'S WORTH INCREASE.

YEAH, I THINK THAT BUDGET PRICE, I THINKING NEXT YEAR, AT END OF NEXT YEAR THEY, I'M NOT SURE HOW BID EVERYBODY BUT ON THE FOUR 90 BUDGET, THERE'S OVERALL IT ONLY CHANGES I THINK $6,000 OUT OF MY ELECTIONS COORDINATOR BUDGET.

WHAT'S AT THE TOP? I SHOULD LET THAT LINE IN, BUT I DIDN'T.

IT'S JUST LIKE, UH, $6,000 ELECTIONS COORDINATOR AND I MOVED A LITTLE BIT OF MONEY AROUND TO MAKE SURE I HAD ENOUGH MONEY FOR ANYTHING ELSE.

ANY QUESTIONS ON THE 500 BUDGET? WELL, I WOULD LIKE TO SAY ONE THING WHILE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE TAX BUDGET WE HAVE WITH IT, WE ONLY HAD IT A FEW WEEKS, BUT UM, IT'S GREAT.

THERE'S MORE THINGS WE CAN DO WITH IT AND WE'RE VERY EXCITED ABOUT IT.

SO THANK YOU FOR THAT.

WHAT DID WE BUDGET FOR THAT? WAS THAT IN IT IN IT? BECAUSE IT'S ALL SOFTWARE AND IT'S PAID FOR UP GOING.

YES.

I'LL SAY IT PROBABLY GEORGIA TELL YOU THIS, BUT JUST SO YOU KNOW, UM, THEY WERE NICE AND GAVE US LIKE A $4,000 DISCOUNT JUST FOR BEING A NEW CUSTOMER.

SO EVEN THOUGH THEY HAD GIVEN US A GOOD PRICE TO START WITH, THEY GAVE US EVEN MORE.

BUT IT'S THING, IT'S WORKING WELL.

THAT'S, THAT'S, YEAH.

WE CAN QUERY THINGS BETTER THAN WHAT WE COULD BEFORE.

SOUNDS CRAZY.

BUT I, I DUNNO ELSE I GET LOST ON THIS SOFTWARE BETWEEN THEIRS AND THEY BUYING IT, BUYING IT, YOU KNOW.

WELL, I MEAN IT JUST, IT IT'S LIKE, IT'S LIKE WE'RE EIGHT UP, WE'RE EIGHT UP WITH SOFTWARE WELL BUILT WORLD QUESTION.

WE SHOULDA HAVE OUR OWN CLOUD.

WHAT'S ONE THING ABOUT OUR TAX HAS A SEPARATE SERVER IN SAN ANTONIO.

IF ANYTHING EVER HAPPENS TO US, ALL OF OUR TAX INFORMATION IS PROTECTED WITH OUR NEW TAX SYSTEM.

WE HAVE A SECOND SERVER IN SAN ANTONIO SO EVERYTHING IS PROTECTED SO WE CAN LOSE IT ALL HERE AND BE ABLE WHAT ABOUT THE COMMUNICATION WITH THE APPRAISAL DISTRICT? IS THAT BETTER? IS THAT IT IS MUCH BETTER.

THINGS ARE UP.

GOOD.

THANK YOU.

I GOT ONE QUESTION SINCE YOU'RE ON THE APPRAISAL DISTRICT BOARD.

YES.

DO THEY HAVE THEIR BUDGET PREPARED? THEY

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DO.

AND THEY HAVE THE BUDGET HEARING I THINK ON JUNE 11TH.

WILL YOU SEND ALL THIS A EMAIL TO THAT? I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO BE AWARE.

UM, OR HAVE YOU SEEN IT YET? YEAH.

DID THAT GIVE THEMSELVES RAISE AGAIN? YES.

YEAH.

IS THAT ALLOWABLE WITHOUT MY CONSENT? YES.

'CAUSE THEY'RE A SEPARATE ENTITY AND THE ONLY THING THAT THIS BOARD HAS TO DO, APPRAISAL DISTRICT IS APPOINTING SOMEONE TO SIT ON THEIR BOARD AND UM, THE, UM, WHAT THEY DECIDED WAS THE REASON FOR THE RAISES IS THEY CAN'T KEEP PEOPLE AND WHEN THEY TRAIN 'EM AND GO TO OTHER DISTRICTS WHO PAY MUCH BETTER THAN WHAT THEY DO OVER THERE.

I I MEAN THAT'S REASON THEM CAN MS. GOOD REASON.

YEAH.

FIND OUT WHO ALL LEFT.

CAN YOU GIVE US A I CAN GIVE YOU NAMES.

COTTON WHAT? AND THE YEARS SERVICE AND STUFF.

NO, IT JUST BE HARD WHAT I TRY TO GET.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

ANYTHING ELSE FROM ME TALKING? DID YOU VOTE TO GIVE THEM A RAISE? I DID.

THERE WAS, THEY WERE RAISING AND I WASN'T THERE WHEN THEY HAD THEIR MEETING, SO CAME IN LIKE AS I WAS OUT TOWN.

UH, BUT THEIR, THE RAISES WERE NOT LIKE HUGE RAISES.

THEY WERE UM, PERCENTAGE BASED.

I THINK IT WAS 2% WAS FAIRLY LOW, WASN'T HUGE.

WELL LAST YEAR THEY ELIMINATED A COUPLE POSITIONS.

THEY TOOK THAT MONEY AND DIVIDED AMONG THE EMPLOYEES THAT WERE LEFT.

THEY'RE TRYING TO BE GETTING A DEPUTY OVER THERE BECAUSE THEY DON'T PAY ANYWHERE NEAR WHAT SURROUNDING COUNTIES PAID FOR THOSE POSITIONS? WHAT DO THOSE POSITIONS? I HAVE I , WELL I, A LOT OF THE POSITIONS IN THE APPRAISAL DISTRICT GO FOR AROUND, UM, OR WE'RE MAKING LIKE 32 TO 35.

AND THEN IF YOU GET ALL THE WAY UP TO LIKE DEPUTY, MAYBE 55.

BUT LIKE CHRIS IS MAKING LIKE NINE, SEVEN APP APPRAISER.

HOW DO THEY COMPARE TO OTHER, DO YOU KNOW? UM, MOST OF 'EM ARE OVER HUNDRED FOR OUR SIZE COUNTY.

YEAH.

SO WHEN THEY GET THEIR APPRAISERS UP TO THE POINT WHERE THEY CAN DEPUTIES THEY GO SOMEWHERE ELSE FOR MONEY.

YOU GUYS QUESTIONS? ALRIGHT, ANYTHING ELSE? MUCH? ALRIGHTY.

WE'RE GOING.

NEED TO GO INTO, UH, TAKE A RECESS FROM THIS MEETING HERE JUST A LITTLE BIT AND ENTER INTO A, UH, WE'LL JUST, WE'LL STAND DOWN FOR A LITTLE BIT.

1115.

YEAH.

HUNT COUNTY.

SEE, BUT THEY'VE BEEN, THEY DID THEIRS BACK YEARS AGO.

HUNT COUNTY THROUGH THE UH, UH, REGULAR OR A SPECIAL MEETING AND WE HAVE, UH, THREE ITEMS TIME'S AT 11, ABOUT 11:16 AM AND THE FIRST ITEM IS TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER EXTENDING THE DISASTER OF DECLARATION ISSUED BY THE COUNTY JUDGE ON MAY THE 27TH FOR A PERIOD OF 30 DAYS UNLESS EXTENDED OR RESCINDED DUE TO THE RECENT SEVERE WEATHER AND FLOODING IN COST COUNTY.

STEVEN, I THINK WHENEVER WE DID THIS, YOU TOLD ME THAT IT WAS GOOD.

MY DECLARATION WAS GOOD FOR SEVEN DAYS.

THAT'S CORRECT SIR.

AND WE HAD TO MEET WITHIN THE PERIOD OF TIME, WHICH FOR THE COURT TO, UH, EXTEND IT FOUR 30 THAT WE CAN EXTEND IT, YOU KNOW, LEGALLY WE CAN EXTEND IT TO 30 OR WE CAN DO IT INDEFINITELY AND JUST RESEND IT WHEN NEED.

WHEN NEEDED.

OKAY.

SO WITH THE FLOODING GOING ON AND THE DAMAGE THAT ROADS AND OUR CITIZENS HAS HAVE IT, IT WOULD BE AT LEAST 30.

PROBABLY HAVE TO EXTEND IT MORE THAN THAT.

WELL IT LOOKED LIKE ME WOULD BE BETTER.

JUST, JUST DO IT INDEFINITELY.

YEAH, JUST DO IT INDEFINITELY AND THEN COME BACK AND THEN YOU'LL HELP US REMEMBER WHEN WE NEED TO RESEND IT.

UH, SO, UH, YOU HAVE A COPY OF THE COURT ORDER, UH, OR YOU SHOULD HAVE, UH, IN YOUR, UH, INFORMATION THAT WAS SENT OUT.

UH, LEMME

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THROW ONE THING I JUST FOUND OUT.

THE WATER IS NOW TOPPING THE LEVEES AND RAW AND IT'S COMING.

YOU NEED A MOTION ON THAT? YEAH, I, I'LL MAKE THE MOTION AND THEN WE EXTEND IT FROM .

OKAY.

WE HAVE A MOTION.

UH, SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER ALLEN.

A SECOND.

MR. SHANE, DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER DISCUSSIONS? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

A ITEM DON'T.

NUMBER TWO IS TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER APPROVING A RESOLUTION FOR THE VICTIMS' COORDINATOR AND LIAISON GRANT FOR THE COUNTY DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.

AND UH, THIS IS SOMETHING PAM'S BEEN WORKING ON.

STEVE, I'M GONNA SIGN THIS.

THIS IS JUST A GRANT TO HELP PAY FOR A VICTIMS COORDINATOR SALARY AND A VERY NECESSARY POSITION AND IT'S THROUGH VOCA SO IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN APPLY FOR YEARLY AND UH, WE DID NOT APPLY LAST YEAR.

WE DID NOT RECEIVE A YEAR BEFORE.

SERVICE IS SOMETHING WE JUST NEED EACH YEAR.

IT GOES DOWN EACH YEAR.

IT GOES DOWN THIS YEAR.

ITS ONLY, I KNOW THIS ONE ISN'T, THIS IS A ONE YEAR.

OH THIS IS A ONE YEAR.

HOW MUCH IS THIS FOR 38,000.

38,000.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

THIS IS THROUGH I THINK JUDGE WILEY, THE DA'S OFFICE'S OFFICE.

AND THE PERSON'S ALREADY DOING THIS.

UM, WELL A PERSON IS DOING QUITE A FEW JOBS.

THIS WILL ALLOW MORE THE FUNDS TO HELP THAT PERSON BE ABLE TO DO JUST THE CRIME VICTIMS. OKAY.

THE NUMBERS THAT THEY SEE IS AMAZING AND, AND UM, THANK THIS.

I'LL MAKE A MOTION.

WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER ALLEN.

DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND.

COMMISSIONER LIK SECOND.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

OPPOSED? OPPOSED.

THANK YOU ALL THEN WE NEED A MOTION TO ADJOURN THE SPECIAL MEETING LIK MAKES HAVE A MOTION.

DO WE HAVE A SECOND? THANK PHILLIPS SECOND.

ALL I SIGN THESE BACK OVER ALL IN SAY A.

ALRIGHT, LET'S, I DUNNO WHAT THEY'RE RECORD DOING MORE AND MORE OF THE UH, FELONY I THINK NOW, WHICH IS GOOD BECAUSE THOSE ONES THAT ARE MORE EXPENSIVE AND I CAN'T REMEMBER WHAT HE TOLD YOU WHETHER HE, SO THANK YOU.

HOW DID THEY DISPERSE THOSE CASES? I KNOW THE OTHER DAY WHEN CASEY GAVE HIS UM, UPDATE, HE SAID THEY WERE DO HALF AND HALF.

YOU DIDN'T SAY THAT.

GIVE ABOUT HALF.

WE HAVE ONE TO ONE HAVE ONE TO ONE.

BUT SINCE OUR CASES HAVE UH, OR SHOULD BE GOING DOWN PRETTY SOON SINCE THE POPULATION IS GOING DOWN, UM, STILL GONNA DO A PERCENTAGE LIKE THAT.

OR IF THEY'RE GOING, I DON'T KNOW, GIVE HIM ALL THAT HE CAN HANDLE AND THEN THE REST OF THEM, ONE OF THE THINGS THEY DISCUSS AT THE BOARD AND WE'LL LET YOU KNOW WHEN THEY HAVE THAT.

SO IF ANY OF YOU WANT TO ATTEND, YOU KNOW, SO YOU CAN ASK THOSE, THOSE KIND OF QUESTIONS.

UH, YEAH I LIKE, I THINK THEY, EVEN THOUGH THE JAIL POPULATION IS DOWN, UH, THEY STILL HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE OUT ON THE LINE.

MM-HMM WHERE THE CASES ARE NOT, YOU KNOW, GOING TO TRIAL AND I KNOW THAT'S WHAT JUDGE RIDGE AND UH, JUDGE, I THINK ALL THEM ARE WORKING NOW SINCE YOU KNOW, THEY DON'T HAVE THE IMMEDIATE OUT AND DON'T BELIEVE DALLAS COUNTY DOES IT.

THEY DO IT FOR REASON.

THEY DON'T REALLY WELL THAT'S THE REASON I THINK WE ACTUALLY GOT SOME OF THESE FEDERAL PRISONERS BECAUSE THEY WERE, A LOT OF 'EM WERE BEING HOUSED IN DALLAS COUNTY.

DALLAS CAN'T HOME.

THEY JUST LITTLE, I MEAN THAT'S A WONDERFUL THING FOR US.

YOU KIDDING? THAT'S HOPE TO KEEP IT UP.

YEAH.

YEAH.

DALLAS NEEDS TO RAISE THEIR BOND RATE AND SAY KEEP HIM FULL.

COME OUT THERE RAN US, I WENT DOWN TO WALKER COUNTY JAIL YESTERDAY AND BUZZED ME, HAD A, DROVE AROUND THE BACK AND HAD A COUPLE INMATES BACK THERE BACK.

THAT'S FACILITY.

MM-HMM

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OBSOLETE OUT.

AMAZING.

HOW FAST.

IT'S KIND LIKE COMPUTER.

I'M SURE WE'RE MAKING A LOT OF NOISE.

I WAS BRINGING BELLS EARLIER WHEN I PENNED IT.

IT'S METAL.

ANYWAY, UM, BACK ON THIS SALES TAX THING, THEY YEAH.

SHERIFF, YOU KNOW, WELL THEY HAVE A LOT OF BUSINESS OUT IN THE COUNTY, YOU KNOW.

HUH? ALSO IN PORT, PORT COUNTY, CALWELL COUNTY, THEY HAVE A LOT OF FARM STORES OUT IN CANADA USED COURSE.

THEY DON'T PAY MOST OF THE, WELL SEE, NOT REALLY ALL THE STUFF INSIDE THE, WHAT HAPPENED IS THEY GET CLOSER.

THEY GET CLOSER AND CLOSE SELLING PUSHERS STUFF.

COUNTY, THEY, YOU PROBABLY SURPRISED, I MEAN KNOW.

YEAH A LOT OF 'EM POPPING UP DOWN THERE, YOU KNOW, PUT THIS IN YEARS AGO, THEY PUT IT IN YEARS USED TO 20 THAT AND I THINK THE WAY IT WORKS IS IT'S ONCE IT'S THEY ANN, THEY CAN'T RAISE IT.

YEAH.

WE NEED TO DO THIS A A DO IT.

WELL AND THERE'S A PROCESS YOU GO THROUGH AND I THINK WE PROBABLY HAVE TO BRING IN SOMEBODY DO IT, MAKE SURE WE DON'T IT.

BUT YOU, I THINK I READ, I THOUGHT FIREWORKS WERE WERE TAB BUT I THINK I READ WHERE.

YEAH, WELL BUT I THINK I READ JUST IN THE LAST DAY OR TWO SOMEWHERE THAT THEY'VE EXEMPTED FIREWORK STANDS TAX.

REALLY? THAT WHY? BUT THEY WERE TRYING TO ADD A DAY.

DID THEY GET THAT? THEY ADDED TWO DAYS.

THEY DID SOMETHING.

WANTED TWO DAYS.

NEW YEAR.

NEW YEAR AND SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, THERE'D BE A LITTLE STUFF GO AROUND HERE, BUT IF WE DID IT, I WOULD, I WOULD THINK WE'D WANT TO DEDICATE TO MAYBE ROAD BRIDGE BECAUSE EVERYBODY WANTS EVERYBODY'S AND PLUS IT CATCHES PEOPLE THAT PASS THROUGH USE THE ROAD.

YEAH.

WELL WHERE YOU HAVE A COUPLE MAJOR TRUCK STOPS OUT THERE ON HIGHWAY.

THAT'S WHY THROUGH BUSES TRAVEL.

YEAH.

THEY MISS A LOT.

LOT OF STUFF OVER THERE.

YEAH.

AND THEY'RE GOING TO EXPAND TOO.

YES, THEY ARE.

I MEAN THEY'RE, BUT THEY'RE ALREADY, IT'S ALREADY, BUT SEE THEY'RE E TJ THOUGH.

WE COULD, IF THEY HAD ANY AREAS IN THERE, WE GRAB AND YOU'RE, YOU'RE SURE ABOUT ONCE IT WELL KNOW, WELL THAT'S SOMEBODY REASONABLY, WE CAN GET SOMEBODY TO COME UP AND TALK TO US ABOUT IT OR THAT'D BE CRITICAL RIGHT THERE.

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YEAH.

AND WE DO REALIZE IT HAS TO, I MEAN WE NEED SOME KIND OF WAY OF KIND SURVEY AND SEE IF ANYTHING THAT WOULD BE THE PEOPLE IN THE CITY.

I DON'T THINK NO, ONLY ONLY PEOPLE IN THE COUNTY.

IN THE COUNTY.

I KNOW THAT.

BUT YOU GET AT SOME VOTERS AND YOU GET KILLED AND CURR OFF PASS ROAD.

WELL, AND I TELL YOU SOMETHING ELSE, I THINK HE DOES TOO.

I'M TALKING ABOUT SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, I'M SURE NOT AN EXPERT, BUT I THINK CELL TOWERS WHERE, YOU KNOW, THE CITY GET, YOU KNOW, LOOK AT THOSE ON YOUR BILL, YOU KNOW THEY GET A FRANCHISE.

WELL I MEAN YOU CAN THINK ABOUT THOSE.

YEAH.

I DON'T KNOW HOW THEY BREAK THAT OUT.

I DON'T DUNNO HOW THEY GO OUT THERE OR IF THE SALE TANK JUST COMES FROM WHEREVER THE WELL, YOUR, YOUR NO, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF, IT SEEMS LIKE WHERE YOU, IF YOU SIGNED UP IN MESQUITE AND NOW THAT'S SAYING YOU A BE, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE PAYING SALES TAX THERE OR ALL PRINT ITSELF.

THE HEADQUARTERS.

I DUNNO IF IT'S COLLECTED FROM EACH SALES TOWER.

I KNOW.

I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU'D HAVE SALES TAX ON SALES TOWER.

IT MAY BE THAT WHOEVER OWNS THE TOWER LEASING, THAT'S THE LEASE.

WELL AGAIN, I MAY, WHAT I TOLD MAY NOT BE RIGHT.

I DON'T THINK, I DON'T THINK THAT BE A DEFINITELY I THINK WHEREVER THE FUNDS WELL I THINK PEOPLE WOULD SUPPORT IT IF THEY KNEW IT WAS GOING TO BE DEDICATED TO THE OH, I THINK SO.

I THINK SO.

WELL THEY WEREN'T GONNA PAY FOR IT.

YEAH.

CLARIFY.

IF YOU GONNA CITY IT MAY, YOU'RE NOT GONNA BE PAYING OUT THERE, RUNNING IN THE CITY.

I'D PULL IN THERE AND DO HAM SPEECH OR, YOU KNOW, BUT HEY, OUT THERE AT, UH, USING IT.

PROS VILLE , NO, .

16 BUCKS LUNCH.

YEAH, PRETTY HIGH.

YEAH, I DIDN'T GET IT.

ALL RIGHT.

I DON'T THINK ANDREW'S COMING UP.

SO WHY DON'T WE DO THIS? UH, AND AGAIN, HIS BOARDS GOT ME AND WE'LL BE SURE TO REMEMBER TO GET EVERYBODY.

I THINK YOU'RE THE OFFICIAL, YOU AND I THE OFFICIAL MEMBERS I THINK.

ALRIGHT.

BUT LET'S GO AHEAD AND WE'LL RECESS UNTIL, UH, ONE O'CLOCK AND WE'LL COME BACK WITH, UH, JUDGE, UH, CASH PROBLEM.

SO WE CAN JUST LEAVE EVERYTHING RIGHT HERE.