* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. YEAH. [00:00:03] AND I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING ABOUT, I MEAN, NOT DON'T HAVE TO HAVE THE BIG COMPUTER ALL UNDERSTAND PROBABLY. THAT WAS GONNA BE MY QUESTION. WHAT CAR WOULD BIG CAR STILL A PRETTY GOOD SIZE CAR? WELL, I THE CHEAPEST, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T BUY NEED TO BUY A REAL SMALL CAR OR ANYTHING. THEY HAVE TWO OR THREE THAT PICK UP ON THE TRANSPORT. I DON'T, YOU KNOW, THEY SEND MORE THAN SAY TWO YOU OUT THE COUNTY ON A DAILY BASIS. WHY DO THEY NEED FOUR BRAND NEW TO GO OUT COUNTY? SO WHAT YOU SAID YESTERDAY OUTTA COUNTY, I MEAN, THEY'RE GOING BACK TO, WELL REPHRASE THAT. YOU KNOW, GOING BACK TO, YOU KNOW, OUT STATE AND, YOU KNOW, WEST TEXAS AND THIS AND THAT. I ALSO, THAT'S OKAY. THAT SOUNDS GOOD. THANK YOU. I FIGURED, I THINK LAST YEAR WE HAD, UH, MAYBE A TOTAL THREE AND THEN THAT WAS GETTING US TO THE 10 BUDGET, THE PRELIMINARY BUDGET THAT WE HAD TO POST, YOU KNOW, 30 DAYS ADOPTION OF THE RECORD BUDGET. AND THEN WE HAD I THINK ONE OR TWO IN BETWEEN THE TIME WE POSTED THE TENTATIVE BUDGET AND THE TIME WE ACTUALLY ADOPTED, UH, JUAN. I MEAN, WE CAN GO BACK AND SEE. OKAY. BUT THE REASON WE'D LIKE TO DO IT BEFORE THE END OF JUNE, YOU HAVE TO PUBLISH, YOU KNOW, THE POST ON WEBSITE AND COPIES IF ANYBODY WANTS IT. AND, UH, AND THEN GET, GET THAT OUT THERE. AND THEN IT'S STILL TENTATIVE UNTIL WE FORMALLY ADOPT, YOU KNOW, THE, THE REGULAR, I MEAN THE OFFICIAL BUDGET. THERE'S SOME THINGS YOU HAVE TO DO. PUBLISH THE NOTICE WHEN YOU'RE, AND YOU KNOW, AGAIN, THE BUDGET IS JUST THE BEST ESTIMATE THAT WE HAVE. YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, I, THE, UH, FURNITURE DEAL, ONE PERSON THIS, UNLESS WE CAN FIND SOMEBODY THEY CAN SHARE, YOU KNOW, WONDER MAYBE WE, UH, SAY, OKAY, LET'S CUT THIS UP QUARTER QUICK AND SAY LET'S TAKE OPEN THE FURNITURE UNTIL WE DECIDE WHAT WE WANNA DO WITH THAT. YOU GO [00:05:08] IN, IN OUR LINE ITEM AND THEN FIGURE OUT IF NEEDED BEFORE WE GET THE BUDGET. THAT'S GOOD. GOT ALL THESE PEOPLE HERE, HUH? YEAH. WELL, I MEAN, JUST DO THEIR OWN BUILDINGS AND FIGURE THAT OUT REAL QUICKLY. PUT IT, IT SEEMS TO LOOK SOME THINGS OVER REAL GOOD THAT WAY OF JUST TAKE IT DOWN THEIR HANDS ON, COME UP WITH FURNITURE STUFF. YEAH. KEEP FROM BEING BAD GUY. WELL, ALL THAT , IT'S JUST WITH THIS CARRIED AWAY. THEY DON'T NEED, THAT'S NOT WHAT THEY NEED TO BE DOING SOMETHING. THEY JUST NEED TO DO SOMETHING. SOME OF THAT OFF. MAYBE TAKE A GONNA PAY FOR IT OUT THE GENERAL FUND. YEAH. ITEMS AN TO THE COUNTY. YEAH. IT NOT, IT'S NOT A MAJOR DEAL. I MEAN, IF YOU GOT A MAJOR STRUCTURE YEAH, WE ITEM FOR, AND WE JUST, YOU COME TO COURT AND DECIDE WHETHER WE WANNA OR NOT. BETWEEN US, YOU COME SAY, WELL, THEY DON'T GET TO PICK IT OUT EITHER. WE'RE GETTING SOME NEW CHAIRS FROM DESK IS WHAT IT'S UH, DO YOU HAVE YOUR REPORT FOR I DO HAVE IT, UH, EVIDENT. WE DON'T HAVE IT IN THE OFFICE. I HAVE IT RIGHT HERE. OH. HE HANDED IT TO ME YESTERDAY, BUT WE DIDN'T LEAVE TILL FIVE O'CLOCK. IT WAS ALREADY CLOSED. WELL, THEY'RE GETTING READY TO DO THE PACKET. OKAY. I'LL RUN IT ACROSS. OKAY. SO JUST, HE JUST HANDED IT TO ME. OKAY. YESTERDAY. THE PACKAGE TO YOU, THE CHAIR TODAY? YEAH, BECAUSE IT HAPPENED YESTERDAY. UM, DID EVERYBODY ELSE TURN THAT IN? NO. HUH? IT BACK? I I'M BRING IT BACK TOMORROW. OH, OKAY. YOU DON'T TAKE OVER. YOU WANNA TAKE IT OVER? I'LL, WELL, IT GOES OUT TODAY. OH, THE PACKET? YEAH. OKAY. WE CAN TAKE IT OFF THE AGENDA IF YOU WANT. I'M NOT GOING HAVE MINE READY. I'M STILL AMENDING MINE. I THINK HIS IS ON THE AGENDA. HIS IS ON THE AGENDA. YEAH, MINES SHOULD BE ON THE AGENDA. I THINK YOURS IS ON THE AGENDA. AND I'LL BRING YOU COPIES. I STILL, I'VE GOT THE NUMBERS. OKAY. BUT DO WE HAVE YOUR PACKET? NO. OKAY. Y'ALL WANT TO JUST RESCHEDULE FOR NEXT YEAR MIGHT BE GOOD BECAUSE WE NEED TO SEND OUT THOSE PACKETS, YOU KNOW, INCLUDE THEM. JUST I BEEN UP HERE LAST TWO. YEAH, RIGHT. SO YOU DON'T JUST TAKE THEM BOTH OFF THE AGENDA THEN. THAT'D BE FINE. AND WE CAN DO IT ON THE 30 DAYS ONLY. MAKE SURE ONE, I DIDN'T, [00:10:08] YOU STILL GOT 11 MINUTES? NO, EIGHT 20. HE'S AT EIGHT 20. OH, OKAY. EIGHT. NOT SURE YOU REMEMBER 30 MINUTES ON THE PHONE. I KEPT HITTING THE WRONG NUMBERS, LETTERS ON LITTLE ONE. I'LL MINE. WHO'S HERE? YEAH. OKAY. I HAVE MY BUDGET. WELL, LET'S SEE WHERE RONNIE, I CAME BACK EARLY. OH, I MISSED YOU. OH, . THAT'S LOT BETTER THAN THIS. MAKING EARLY. IT WAS GONNA RAIN THIS WEEK ANYWAY. SUPPOSED TODAY FIVE 30 THERE AND AFTER FIVE, YEAH, FIVE 30 THERE. IT WAS 10 30 HERE YESTERDAY MORNING. SHOWED HIM IN THE ROOM, HE KICKED BACK. SO, SURE. BASICALLY I HAVE LAURA, MAY I HAVE A COPY THIS? UM, YES. CAN I GIVE YOU THIS ONE AGAIN? SURE. OKAY. I SENT IT TO, OKAY. BASICALLY, UM, ON MY FIRST PAGE, THE ONLY THING THAT'S BEEN MODIFIED 5,000 AND I TOOK OFF MY BOND MONEY AT 200. DON'T NEED THAT. BUT I DID ASK FOR THE $5,000 TO COVER THE, UH, COLLECTIONS DEPARTMENT. AND THAT'S BASICALLY A STATE MANDATED PROGRAM THAT THE COUNTY HAS TO PUT. AND 20, WHEN I BUDGET OF HUNDRED 50,000, WE REDUCED ABSORBED IT. AND I'VE BEEN DOING IT EVER SINCE. AND I'D LIKE TO RECEIVE THAT STIPEND WITH OTHER PEOPLE IN THE CITY. [00:15:01] COLLECTIONS ON WHAT? COURT COLLECTIONS? ALL THE COURTS? YES. PUBLIC EDUCATION BASICALLY LIST TALKS ABOUT THE REVENUES COMING IN AND THE, THE BUDGET THAT'S COVERED FOR THE LOCKING TRAINING. AND, UM, THE ONLY CHANGE THERE IS THE PRODUCTION OF $11 AND IT, THE REVENUE IS AT 54 OR 5,540. AND THE EXPENSES ARE BASICALLY SAME AND IT'S JUST AS CASES COME IN, PEOPLE FILE THE COURT COSTS, THIS MONEY GOES IN AND IT'S SET ASIDE FOR THE JUDGES AND THE COURT STAFF TO ATTEND FROM THE CONFERENCES. IN THE RECORDS MANAGEMENT, WHICH IS LIKE 5 42, WE HAVE, UM, AN ESTIMATED REVENUE AT THE VERY BOTTOM OF 502,000 WITH 230,000 AS A BALANCE. AND THE ESTIMATE COMES IN AS REVENUE. AND THOSE ARE FOR FILING OF DOCUMENTS IN THE PLAN AREA. AND THEN BASICALLY WHAT I'VE DONE IS JUST BREAK THAT DOWN INTO SALARIES, RECORDS, PRESERVATIONS, MY OWN MEALS ING SOFTWARE. AND SO LEAVES ME WITH AN ESTIMATED 89,000, BUT IT BALANCE THOSE REVENUES WITH THE EXPENSES. OKAY, SO YOU'RE NOT PLANNING ON SPENDING ANY OF THAT OTHER THAN WHAT YOU HAVE INVESTIGATED FOR THE UH, YES. BASICALLY IT STAYS THE SAME, STAYS THE SAME. NO, IT LOOKS LIKE, OKAY. WHAT YOU, THIS IS ONE OF THOSE BUDGETS THAT MODIFIES AND CHANGES AS WE DO PROJECTS. SO I HAVE $500,000 SITTING OVER HERE AND AS A CLERK, I DECIDE, YOU KNOW, WHAT NEEDS TO BE TAKEN CARE OF. SO IT, IT DOESN'T, THIS BUDGET NEVER REMAINS THE SAME. AND I KNOW THAT WE'LL PROBABLY SPEND A HUNDRED THOUSAND AND THEN, UH, ADDITIONAL MONEY ON EQUIPMENT THIS YEAR AND I'M BRINGING BEFORE THE COURT BEFORE IT GETS SPENT, BUT, BUT IT CHANGES EVERY YEAR. SO YOU'LL SEE, YOU KNOW, THE 2 25 DECREASE IN IMAGING BECAUSE WE HAD A BIG PROJECT AND WE PAID IT, SO I UPPED IT, PAID THAT BUDGET DOWN. SO DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? SPENT IT LAST YEAR, SO DIDN'T HAVE SPEND IT THIS YEAR. YEAR, MM-HMM . I, IT'S NOT A BAD PROBLEM. THIS IS THE GENERAL, YOU KNOW, THIS IS, IT'S NOT A BAD PROBLEM TO HAVE, BUT IT LOOKS LIKE WE'RE ESTIMATED TO HAVE AN ENDING FUND BALANCE OF THIS YEAR, WHICH MAY NOT. 642,000, IS THAT RIGHT? I DON'T WHERE'S THE 640 BUDGET REVISED BUDGET? WELL, THAT, THAT'S FROM LAST YEAR AND 303, BUT WE'VE SPENT A, A MAJORITY OF THAT MONEY WE'VE ALREADY SPENT OUT OF THE 642 FOR LAST YEAR THAT WE WOULD END UP WITH AT THE END OF THIS YEAR, THERE'S BEEN 403,000 SPENT OF THE 6 42. OKAY. OKAY. YEAH. SO, YOU KNOW, I, WE, AND, AND I DON'T, A LOT OF COUNTY CLERK WILL THIS MONEY AND THEY'LL JUST SAY, I'M GONNA SPEND A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS A YEAR. BUT THEY'LL GO AHEAD AND THEY'LL GET $500,000 WORTH OF PROJECTS DONE AND THEN JUST PAY THE BILL. AND I DON'T LIKE THAT BECAUSE A LOT OF TIMES THE CLERK COMING IN, HER MONEY'S ALREADY BEEN SPENT BY THE PREVIOUS CLERK, YOU KNOW, SHE'S DOING IS PAYING A BILL. SO I'D RATHER SAVE THE MONEY UP AND THEN SPEND IT ALL AT ONE POINT. LOOKS LIKE REVENUES ARE KIND OF COMING UP AGAIN A LITTLE BIT TOO MORE FINANCE. YES. YES. AND WE HAVE A, UH, 14 YEAR DRAFT TO TALK ABOUT THE NUMBER OF AVERAGE DOCUMENT TODAY. AND IT'S COMING UP A LITTLE BIT, NOT AS MUCH AS IT WAS, BUT IT'S DEFINITELY COMING UP. AND THEN SOME OF THIS MAY CHANGE ON THE CCB, THE DPS, UM, LEGISLATION GOES, UM, THE COURT TECHNOLOGY FUND, THIS IS AGAIN RECORD, THIS IS MONEY TAKEN IN, IN THE COURTS AREA AND IT'S PUT ASIDE FOR THE DISTRICT AND COUNTY COURT TECHNOLOGY. AND, AND IT GETS BASICALLY BROKEN DOWN BETWEEN THE COUNTY CLERK AND THE DISTRICT CLERK. SO IF YOU FIGURE WE'RE GONNA BRING IN $3,000 THIS YEAR IF THE COUNTY CLERK, YOU KNOW, AND THEN SPEND IT ACCORDINGLY. AND WE'VE DONE THE TITLE CONFERENCES ON THIS, WHICH IS A TRAINING ON OUR COURT SYSTEM. AN ADDITIONAL CLERK WILL BRING HER ON BUDGET IN FOR MILES EQUIPMENT, BUT YOU SHOULD STAY CLOSE TO THAT $7,900 WORTH OF REVENUE THAT'S PROJECTED. [00:20:04] OKAY. AND ON THE LAST PAGE, THIS IS THE RECORD THAT OUR ARCHIVE, AGAIN, THERE IS MONEY TAKEN IN WHEN WE BRING IN, UH, GLEN A GRAND RECORD OR DOCUMENT OVER, OVER THE COUNTER UPSTAIRS, WE'LL BRING IN ABOUT 215,000 THIS YEAR. WE HAVE AN ESTIMATED ENDING BALANCE OF 253. SO THERE'LL BE 600 OR 468,000 IN THAT BUDGET AT THE END OF NEXT YEAR. AND BASICALLY IT'S JUST SPLIT OUT. LAST YEAR WE HAD 654,000 AND WE SPENT 212. AND THIS IS ONE THAT WE'LL HAVE A, THERE'LL BE A PLAN SUBMITTED ON WHAT IT'S GONNA BE USED FOR. RIGHT. WE HAVE TO, THE COUNTY CLERK HAS TO HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING. SO ABOUT THE SAME TIME YOU DO YOUR, YOUR BUDGET HEARING GO THE PUBLIC HEARING ON COLLECTING THE MONEY TO FUND THIS ACCOUNT. AND AGAIN, THIS IS ONE THAT THE COUNTY CLERK CAN SPEND ON THE PROVISIONERS FOR. AND I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, THE ONE THING I WANT TO STRESS ON, ON THESE RECORDS PRESERVATION AND RECORDS MANAGEMENT BUDGET, IT'S REALLY HARD TO SAY THAT, UM, THINGS ARE PERMANENT IN THIS WORLD. BUT YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THAT THE RECORDS THAT THE COUNTY KEEP, SO WE HAVE KEPT, THE COUNTY CLERK'S OFFICE GOES BACK 162 YEARS. AND, AND SO WHEN WE GO THROUGH THE IMAGING AND THE INDEXING OF THESE WE'RE TAKEN FROM THE HANDWRITTEN BOOKS AND, AND FROM THE, THE FOLDERS THAT ARE 160 YEARS OLD, EXTREMELY FRAGILE. AND WE'RE PUTTING THEM, IMAGING INDEXING THEM SO PEOPLE CAN GET TO THEM EASILY. BUT WITH TECHNOLOGY CHANGING, YOU KNOW, YOU GO FROM THE, FROM THE EIGHT TRACK TAPE TO THE CASSETTE TAPE TO THE CDS TO THE MP THREES OUR, OUR TECHNOLOGY CHANGES ALSO. SO THOSE, YOU MAY DO IT ONCE. THERE'S ALWAYS AN EVOLUTION. YOU HAVE TO, YOU HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, WE'RE TAKING THESE ALONG PERMANENTLY WITH US. FOR WHAT DO YOU DO WITH ALL THE OLD ATION OVER PISTOL RECORDS? WHERE ARE THEY? MOST OF THEM ARE DOWNSTAIRS. I HAVE LESS THAN 500 SQUARE FEET IN THE STORAGE BUILDING ACROSS THE STREET. AND ONE OF THOSE THINGS I REALLY LIKE TO DO IS MODIFY A LITTLE BIT OR MAXIMIZE A LITTLE BIT MORE SPACE DOWNSTAIRS. AND I CAN TAKE YOU DOWN. WE HAVE OUR, WHAT'S CALLED A PROBATE SHOW. SO ARE THE RECORDS GOING BACK TO 1850, THERE ARE THREEFOLD DOCUMENTS SHOWING THE PROBATE RECORDS. IS THAT WHERE YOU STARTED ON IMAGING WITH OLDEST GOING TO THE NEWEST? OR DID YOU START WE DID, WE DID THE LAND RECORDS. 'CAUSE THOSE ARE THE MOST FREQUENTLY USED. AND THEN WE'VE GONE ON IT TO DO THE VITALS. AND DO WE, ONCE WE DO THAT, WHAT WE HAVE, DO WE HAVE TO KEEP MAINTAINING ALL RECORDS TOO? WE HAVE, YEAH. WHAT I MEAN, BECAUSE THOSE, THOSE BOOKS, LIKE I SAID, THAT KIND OF HISTORY, BUT I MEAN, I GUESS WELL IF YOU'VE EVER BEEN THROUGH A CONVERSION, UM, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE THINGS THAT PEOPLE CAN, CAN RELATE TO IS YOU TAKE YOUR, YOU USED TO HAVE A CAMERA AND YOU HAD THE FILM, THE THE PRINTS, THE NEGATIVES. YEAH, THE NEGATIVES AND THE PRINTS. AND THEN THEY WENT TO DIGITAL IMAGES AND EVERYBODY WAS NOT MAKING PRINTS ANYMORE AND THEY PUT IT ON THEIR COMPUTER. RIGHT. AND THEN THEIR COMPUTER CRASHED OR THEY GOT A NEW COMPUTER AND IT'S LIKE THEY LOST THAT SERIES RIGHT. WHEN THEY WENT FROM THE PHOTOGRAPHS TO THE DIGITALS AND THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, YOU TRY TO GO BACK AND YOU CAN'T GO BACK. SO IT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT I, I GUESS IN A WAY THEY, SOME OF THE CLERKS ARE SAYING, I'M GONNA GET RID OF THOSE OLD BOOKS. BUT AT THE SAME TIME I'VE SAID, I'D RATHER PRESERVE THOSE OLD BOOKS AND MAKE SURE THAT THEY WILL LAST THEIR ENTIRE LIFE. SO IF THERE'S ANYTHING, IF YOU GO THROUGH A CONVERSION, WE'VE BEEN THROUGH 2009 AND YOU RELEASE THINGS, YOU STILL HAVE FROM 19. BUT, BUT YOU HAVE TO ALSO UNDERSTAND THE, THE TEXAS STATE LIBRARY RULES, WHAT WE DO WITH OUR RECORDS AND ANYTHING 1950 AND BACK, BACK IS A PERMANENT RECORD. RECORD. SO FOR THOSE IN A SECURE PLACE, I MEAN THEY'RE CROSSFIT THAT BUILDING, THAT'S KIND OF A FIRE TRAP. RIGHT. THE ONLY THING THAT I HAVE OVER THERE THAT I REALLY WANT TO GET RID OF, AND, AND THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS I WANTED TO TALK TO Y'ALL ABOUT REAL BRIEFLY, IS I WANT TO MAXIMIZE THE SPACE DOWNSTAIRS. SO I NEED A PLACE TO TAKE THE RECORDS THAT ARE DOWNSTAIRS, MOVE THEM SOMEWHERE ELSE, HAVE PEOPLE, I HAVE THE HISTORICAL COMMISSION LINED UP, THEY'RE WILLING TO OPEN THESE, THESE FILES UP, PUT 'EM IN A, IN, IN A FORMAT THAT I CAN USE TO IMAGE THEM AND THEN PUT A, ANOTHER MECHANICAL STORAGE RACK SYSTEM THAT SIMILAR TO WHAT I HAVE RIGHT NOW, BUT THAT'LL HOLD FILES. AND AT THAT POINT, THE, THE EIGHT FILING CABINETS THAT I HAVE ACROSS THE STREET THAT ARE HISTORICAL BASED ON THE STATE LIBRARY STANDARDS, I CAN BRING THOSE OVER EVERYBODY ACROSS THE STREET. THEY NEEDED EVERYTHING ACROSS THE STREET THAT I HAVE DOWNSTAIRS IN THE ROTARY FILES HAS BEEN IMAGE. OKAY. OKAY. AND, AND NOW THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU, WE, WE IMAGING GOING FORWARD UNTIL LIKE THE COURT RECORDS, THINGS LIKE THAT DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE [00:25:01] TO BE KEPT. AND, AND SO THERE ARE THINGS THAT WE, WE CAN GET RID OF AND WE WILL GET RID OF, BUT THERE ARE THINGS WE CAN'T AND, AND THE RECORDS ARE KEPT AND THE RECORDS MANAGEMENT ADDRESS THOSE CASES. AND AT SOME POINT, YOU KNOW, DO I, I GUESS WE NEED TO ADDRESS A PLACE TO PUT THESE THINGS TO MAXIMIZE NO, WE DO, YOU KNOW, WE TALKED A LITTLE BIT YESTERDAY, SO TPA PEOPLE YEAH. FIGURE OUT SOME PLACE WHERE ALL THESE FILES TO GO AND, AND I'M NOT, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT, NOT USING, USING PART OF THIS MONEY TO DO THAT. I MEAN, JUST LET'S TALK ABOUT A PLACE THAT, THAT MEETS THE STANDARDS SET UP BY THE STATE LIBRARY. DO WE HAVE SUCH A PLACE, THE COUNTY CURRENTLY THAT COULD BE USED OR THINK ABOUT USING ? HAVE YOU THOUGHT ABOUT THAT? A PLACE I I, I DUNNO THAT I DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO THE, ALL THE INFORMATION OF WHAT'S WHERE. OKAY. THAT'S RHONDA HAS HER, HER RECORDS IN THE OLD JAIL. YOU HAVE SOME DOWN THERE TOO? NO, ALL THOSE FLAT THINGS DOWN THERE. THOSE ARE ALL THOSE TAX OFFICE. TAX OFFICE, THE STUFF THAT, STUFF THAT WAS DOWNSTAIRS. THAT'S WHY THEY'RE IN THERE SO BAD. OKAY. THEY'RE NOT IN GOOD ROOM. ALL THOSE OFFICE. BUT, BUT IS THE, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT JAIL, IS THAT IN, IS IT AIR CONDITIONED AND YEAH, BUT IT COULD BE. IT COULD. THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. YOU KNOCKED OUT SOME WALLS AND DID A FEW THINGS AND PUT THE RIGHT STUFF IN THERE. GREAT BIG FILE SYSTEM THAT FIRE TAKE OUT THE WALLS THAT ARE NOT LOAD BEARING BIG ROOM AND UH, YOU KNOW, THE AIR CONDITIONING AND HUMIDITY PART. I MEAN THAT, THAT'D BE, IT WOULD BE TOO HARD. I THINK PAUL SAID THAT THE AIR CONDITIONER WORK WAS, WAS FUNCTIONAL. SO, BUT I DON'T, YOU CAN BLOCK, BLOCK OFF WHATEVER YOU DON'T NEED AND, AND SURE. WELL THAT WAY TEMPERATURE CONTROL AND RACKS IN THERE WITH STORAGE BINS AND STORAGE. MOSTLY WE DO, YOU KNOW, NEED CLEAN IT OUT ANYWAY. MIGHT HAVE THAT'S IMPORTANT, THOSE IMPORTANT RECORDS. YEAH. NEED TO FIGURE OUT HOW MANY SQUARE FEET YOU, HOW MANY SQUARE FEET. BUT YOU HAVE TO HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THAT IT'S NOT JUST US, IT'S ALSO, IT'S ALSO ATTORNEY BECAUSE EVERY ATTORNEY HAS A WHOLE ACROSS THE STREET. EVERYBODY FIGURE OUT HOW MUCH SPACE THEY NEED AND DON'T. BUT YOU ALSO HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THAT THIS MONEY CAN BE USED FOR THE COUNTY CLERK RECORDS. THEY'RE LIKE, SO IF YOU ARE JUST GONNA REPLACE THAT STABLE, YOU KNOW, THAT LIBRARY, I HAVE LESS THAN 500 SQUARE FEET. SO IT'S LIKE WILL BE WATCHING MAKE SURE, WELL WE CAN MAKE POSSIBLY THREE DAS THEIR BUDGET AND THE COMMISSIONERS HAVE MONEY. KAREN FUND 46, HOW MUCH DO WE HAVE IN FUND? 46? I DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO THAT RIGHT NOW, BUT I COULD FIND OUT. WE USED SOME OF IT. UH, WE USED 60,000 OF IT FOR UH, THE UH, EFILING I THINK, DIDN'T WE KAREN? UH, FOR THE JUDGE WILEY'S OFFICE? NO, YOU USED 105,000 TO BUY HER SOFTWARE. OKAY. FOR THE ATTORNEY PACKAGE WE USED RIGHT AT A HUNDRED THOUSAND TO FINISH THE ANNEX THAT Y'ALL GREW. AND ONE MORE THING, BUT I'LL GO FIND OUT REAL QUICK. WELL, YOU CAN DO A BREAK. OKAY. WELL IT'D BE 50 IN ENOUGH FOR ALL THE STORAGE THAT THEY HAVE, ALL THE FURNITURE SPACE. IT JUST NEEDS TO BE THE KIDS, BE ENOUGH CLEANED, DO IT, YOU KNOW. YEAH. LIKE I SAY, TAKE OUT THE NON LOAD BEARING WALLS, BUT BUT BEFORE WE START, I DON'T KNOW. I CAN GET SOMEBODY, THE STATE LIBRARY COMMISSION WE REQUIREMENTS, SO YOU UNDERSTAND [00:30:01] RIGHT. NO, IT'D BE FIRE. THAT'S PLACE TO GO. WELL WE PUT AN ALARM SYSTEM IN THERE, WHATEVER WATER SPRINKLERS. BUT, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO, UM, FIND A PLACE RIGHT NOW TO TAKE, UM, IT'S A 14 BY 15 BY 15 SPACE RIGHT NOW THAT I NEED, WOULD NEED TO MOVE OUT THE EQUIPMENT, YOU KNOW, THE FILING CABINETS AND STUFF THAT ARE IN THERE RIGHT NOW. I HAVE A PROPOSAL FOR SYSTEM SOMEBODY TO AND HOW LONG WOULD YOU NEED THEM THERE FOR? IT WOULDN'T TAKE LONG TO, TO PUT THE, TAKE A BIT FOR THE HISTORICAL COMMISSION TO GO THROUGH. UM, SO A COUPLE MONTHS. COUPLE MONTHS, ARE THEY GONNA, WHEN YOU MOVE THEM OUT, ARE THEY GONNA GO THROUGH? YES, THEY'RE GONNA GO THROUGH 'EM AT THAT POINT. 'CAUSE RIGHT NOW THEY'RE IN WHAT'S CALLED WHEN YOU TAKE A DOCUMENT AND YOU FOLD IT LIKE THIS AND YOU PUT IT IN A FOLDER. AND WHAT THEY'RE GONNA DO IS THEY'RE GONNA UNFOLD IT. AND OF COURSE THERE'S A MILLION PIECES OF PAPER, BUT THEY CAN'T DO IT NOW. THEY HAVE TO HAVE A PLACE TO DO IT. I, I DON'T HAVE SPACE FOR THEM TO HAVE, THAT'S WHERE, THAT'S WHERE IT'S GONNA BE A REAL PROBLEM. SO IT'S NOT WELL WE'VE GOT BIG OFFICES OVER AT THE SOUTH CAMPUS RIGHT NOW. YEAH. I THINK THEY LIKE TWO OF THE OFFICES AND PUT ALL THE STUFF IN THERE. BUT I'LL NEED ANOTHER OFFICE TWO THAT SOMEONE COULD COME IN. YOU KNOW, YOU COULDN'T DO THAT OFFICER. I DUNNO WHAT WELL, WE, TO HER RECORD, I MEAN, UH, RHONDA, YOU KNOW, GOT FOUR OF THOSE OFFICES I THINK WELL PULL UP NOW, BUT THAT'S WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT YESTERDAY. THEY'RE GONNA GO IN AND GO THROUGH AND GET RID OF WHAT SHE NEEDS TO GET RID OF. YEAH. AND I KNOW THERE'S TWO, UM, RANDY TOOK US THROUGH WHEN YOU FIRST COME IN, UM, THAT ARE CONNECTED LIKE WHEN YOU FIRST WALK IN THE DOOR ON THE COURTROOM ON THE RIGHT SIDE. YES. YES. I THINK WE CAN GET THE STUFF IN THERE. AND THEN HE SAYS THERE'S TWO MORE OFFICES RIGHT THERE THAT THEY'RE USING FOR SURPLUS EQUIPMENT THAT'S GONNA BE GONE. SO THAT WOULD BE BE THAT DAY. I COULD USE THOSE. NOT BOTH. WE CAN TAKE ALL THAT WHERE KAREN'S OFFICE USED TO BE, YOU KNOW, TAKE ALL THOSE WALLS AND MAKE, MAKE A ROOM BIGGER. BIG AS THIS OR BIGGER. YEAH, BE BIGGER. PUT YOUR RIGHT. OKAY. ALRIGHT. ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR NO, THANK YOU. AND UH, IS RONNIE ON HIS WAY OR ARE YOU GONNA PINCH IT? HE'S PROBABLY, UH, BUT HE SAID YOU HAVE A COPY. WE DO ME TO, UM, SORRY TO SHARE WITH Y'ALL A DISCUSSION AND I'LL PROBABLY TO RETIRE THIS FALL AND UH, UH, IN SAINT PERHAPS OCTOBER. UM, YOU NEED TO BRING SOMEONE IN TO TRAIN A MONTH TO SIX WEEKS. UM, ADDITIONAL, AN EXTRA GET THE TRAINING DO GONNA DO IT BEFORE THE END OF THIS BUDGET YEAR, I BELIEVE STARTED IN SEPTEMBER. SO YOU'RE, YOU'LL LEAVE THEN YOU BUDGET YOUR START OCTOBER 1ST SOMETIME IN OCTOBER, PROBABLY TOWARDS END OF OCTOBER TIME AND ALL STUFF. WELL, I COULD DO SOME TRAINING DURING THAT TIME BECAUSE WE HAD QUARTER REPORTS. RIGHT. THAT ONLY CAME UP IN JULY, OCTOBER. OKAY. JANUARY AND SUCH AS THAT. SO I NEED TO WORK WITH THEM. THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL. YEAH. RATHER THAN, AND THEN I NEARBY ALRIGHT. DEAL ON HIS OFFICE SUPPLIES. HE CUT THAT SUM. UH, [00:35:01] UNFORTUNATELY I DON'T HIS EDUCATION, I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. YEAH. YOU, ME TO ANY NO QUESTION. NO. THANK, GOOD JOB GETTING RETIRES. YOU GOOD MORNING. GOOD MORNING. I SEE Y'ALL GUN, SINUS, CHEST CONGESTED IN TWO DAYS. NO TOBACCO OR SOMETHING. A LITTLE EDGY. . YOU'RE WELCOME. WELL, WE'LL PROBABLY BE NICE. LOADED WEAPON. SO YOU GOT YOUR MASTER OFFICER CERTIFICATE? YES, SIR. I RECEIVED IT. DID I IN THERE? I RECEIVED IT FROM T COLE ON THE 13TH OF FEBRUARY THIS YEAR WE'RE KIND OF LOOKING AT WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO ON PROFICIENCY MAY , UH, YOU KNOW, THERE, THE SHERIFF DEPARTMENT AND CONSTABLE AS WELL. SO WE NOT, NOT SURE WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO. WE'RE, AND I KNOW WE DID THAT. I THINK YOU'RE GETTING SOME THIS YEAR ALREADY. I DIDN'T. OKAY. UH, NOW HE REMEMBER HE WENT THROUGH THE HEARING PROCESS LAST YEAR AND, AND, UH, THEY TURNED HIM DOWN BECAUSE IT, IT WASN'T DONE IN BUDGET TIME, SO. OKAY. UH, THIS YEAR I, I'D LIKE TO SEE IT GET BUMPED UP TO WHERE THE OTHER CONSTABLES ARE. YEAH, I AGREE. ADVANCED PRECINCT THREE AND FOUR. AND AGAIN, WE'RE KIND OF LOOKING AT THAT ON, I THINK IF, IF YOU COULD, IT WOULD DEFINITELY BOOST MORALE WITH OFFICERS. YEAH. YOU KNOW, BECAUSE YOU GOT SOME GETTING IT, SOME NOT. AND IT DOES CAUSE SOMEWHAT OF A CONFIDENCE. YEAH. AND IT GIVES THEM A LITTLE SOMETHING TO, TO WORK TOWARDS TOO. YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST MORE TRAINING THAT YOUR OFFICERS ARE GETTING. YEAH. BECAUSE YOU HAVEN'T USED A BUNCH OF EXTRA HELP ON THIS YEAR OFF BEFORE. WELL, WE KIND OF HAD A HICCUP BACK AND THE, UH, EARLY FALL AND SOME OF THE ONES THAT I WERE LOOKING AT, SO THE POSSIBLY WERE REPLACE WERE JUST FOR LACK OF BETTER TERMS. I TOLD THE JUDGE WHEN THEY GAVE ME THAT POSITION THAT IF IT DIDN'T PRODUCE THEN I'D TAKE IT OUT AND I'M GONNA PICK MY GUNS ON THAT AND TAKE IT OUT. BUT I HAD VISITED WITH SOME OF Y'ALL EARLIER, I WOULD LIKE TO KEEP 5,000 OF THAT TO TRANSFER INTO DANIEL SALARY, TALKING UP TO SERGEANT. AND I KNOW WE HAD TOUCHED ON THAT THE YEARS PAST AND THERE'S ALWAYS A REASON WHY. WELL, THIS YEAR WAS THE TICKET RIDERS. UH, DANIEL IS THE ONLY ONE THAT'S GOING TO BE THE PROJECT MANAGER SLASH ADMINISTRATOR. OVER 10 OFFICERS THAT HAVE THE TICKET RIDERS, WHICH, UH, IS GOING TO INCLUDE HIM OVERSEEING THE 10 OFFICERS, MAKING ALL THE CHANGES FOR THEM, MAKING CORRECTIONS ON CITATIONS, ADDING THEM OFFENSES, KEEPING UP WITH CHANGES AND LETTING OFFICERS KNOW WHAT CHANGES ARE BEING MADE. UH, I HAVE A WHOLE REST OF THEM THERE, BUT, UH, HE'S, HE'S GOING HAVE THAT THROWN ON TOP OF HIS DAILY DUTIES ALREADY. SPEAKING OF THE TICKET WRITERS [00:40:01] OUT, THE GOING GOOD. I GOT AN EMAIL OBJECTED THIS MORNING. I GOT A, UH, I WAS COPIED ON AN EMAIL THAT BARBARA HAD SENT. THEY HAD SENT BARBARA AND BARBARA HAD SENT BACK. I THINK THEY'RE ALMOST THERE. THEY'RE PHYSICALLY START SCHEDULING THE TRAINING FOR THE COURT COURT. I MEAN THE COURT CLERK. SO THAT END IS FISCAL BE DONE. OUR END IS DONE. SO, UH, UM, AND THEY'RE WORKING GREAT CLERKS LIKE THEM I UNDERSTANDING. YES. RIGHT NOW WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT, THEY'RE NOT ABLE TO PICK IT UP, BUT WE CAN GO ON AND PRINT 'EM OFF FOR EM AND THEY'RE LOVING BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE TO SAY, NOW WHO IS THIS OR HAVE YOU, HOW YOU READ THAT. YEAH. I MEAN IT'S ALL FROM OUR COMPLAINTS, WHICH IS THE ACTUAL CHARGING INSTRUMENT. A LOT OF PEOPLE THINK THAT JUST BECAUSE YOU GOT A TICKET WHERE WE HAVE TO DO A GOAL STEP FURTHER, ONCE WE TURN THE CITATION AND DO A COMPLAINT, UH, THAT'S ALREADY DONE FOR US. ONCE WE PRINT IT OUT, IT'S SIGNED EVERYTHING. I MEAN, IT'S WHAT BE GREAT SO THE GIRLS DON'T HAVE TO SAY, HEY, I NEED TO COMPLAIN THIS CITATION. SO I MEAN, WHEN YOU TURN THE CITATION, YOU TURN THE COMPLAINTS. EVERYTHING IS WHAT WE REALLY DO. OKAY. SO ON YOUR EXTRA HELP WOULD CUT IT TO 15,000. I MEAN YOU CUT IT FIVE, 15,000. YEAH. CUT IT. FIVE, 15,000 AND THEN YOU WOULD UH, LIKE TO, UH, HIS UH, UH, TO A SERGEANT. OKAY. NOW, TO MY KNOWLEDGE, WE DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER SERGEANTS ON THE NO CONSTABLE THIS AREA. OKAY. SO THAT'S KIND OF A PRESSIVE SETTING THING, I GUESS WOULD BE, BUT I MEAN, AND I'M NOT ARGUING, I'M JUST SAYING THAT BECAUSE OF THE, UH, INCREASED RESPONSIBILITIES. RIGHT. BUT I KNOW WHAT WE'RE GOING HEAR, YOU KNOW? OH YEAH, YEAH. WE'RE GOING TO HEAR THAT. BUT YOU KNOW, UH, LIKE HE AND I WERE TALKING, THESE OTHERS COULD HAVE BROUGHT THIS TO THE TABLE. YEAH. SO, YOU KNOW, THEY MISSED THEIR OPPORTUNITY. UH, WE BROUGHT IT TO THE TABLE, GOT EVERYTHING GOING, EVERYBODY LIKE IT. SO THEREFORE HE'S THE ONE THAT'S DONE MOST OF THE LEGWORK ON IT. UH, THAT'S WHY I FEEL LIKE HE WOULD DESERVE THE RIGHT TO IT. JUST TO. SO SERGEANT WOOD AT THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE, SO IS HE GOING TAKE OVER SUPERVISOR AND THE OTHER NOT AS FAR AS THEIR DAILY DUTIES, BUT AS FAR AS THE, HE THINK IT GOES ON WITH THE ANYTHING THE VISOR GRABS CHECK. SO ALL OTHER JPS UH, THE CONSTABLES HAVE TICKET, RIGHT? SAYING YES, ALL THE OTHER CON AND THE, UH, TWO ENVIRONMENT ENVIRONMENTAL GUYS HAVE, YOU'RE GONNA BE ADMINISTRATOR OVER ALL THEM. I'M THE ADMINISTRATOR OVER ALL OF THEM. WHAT ABOUT THE FIRE MARSHAL GUYS? THEY, THEY DON'T HAVE, DO THEY NEED, UH, NOW, UH, DEPUTY, THE DEPUTY FIRE MARSHAL AND THEY DON'T HAVE TICKET RECORDS, DO THEY? I MEAN, THEY COULD UTILIZE THEM. THEY COULD IF, UH, I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY TICKETS. I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY THEY WRITE FOR. I WAS GONNA SAY THERE'S MORE A NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICE TICKET THAN A YEAH. TRAFFIC. I WONDER A WORK YOU IN BIRD VAN, A LOT OF THEIRS ARE DONE DURING ENVIRONMENTAL, BUT ON THE ENVIRONMENTAL OFFICERS OH, THEY, YEAH, THEY, THEY ISSUE A LOT. THEY ISSUE A LOT. SO THEY COME UNDER, THEY HAVEN'T, THEY HAVEN'T. NO. THE ENVIRONMENTAL OFFICERS COME UNDER RANDY. RANDY COME UP AND LOOK. YEAH. AND RANDY HAS THE, THE, UH, THEY HAVE TWO OF THEM. THE TWO FIREMAN JACK. OKAY. THEY ALREADY HAVE THERE TOO. YES. THEY GOT THE TWO. YES. OKAY. I'M, WE HAD CAME TO COURT AND ASKED FOR THE MONEY FOR THAT. OKAY. I'VE FORGOTTEN ABOUT THAT. ON, ON YOUR NEW EQUIPMENT, YOU DIDN'T CHANGE THAT. CAN THAT BE REMOVED NOW THAT YOU'VE WORKED OUT YOUR GUNS AND YOUR RIFLES AND STUFF? WELL, I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO REMOVE ALL OF IT BECAUSE WE NEVER KNOW WHAT'S GONNA COME UP. HOW MUCH DO YOU NEED? THAT'S KIND OF HARD TO SAY. WE NEVER KNOW YEAR TO YEAR WHAT ENOUGH THAT WE'D NEED. IF SIRENS GO OUT A LOT, I MEAN, I'M ALREADY HAVING TROUBLE WITH MY SIREN BOX AND MY TAHOE AS GOOD AS THIS, SO YOU NEVER KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO COME UP WITH THE EQUIPMENT. BUT I MEAN, YOU KNOW, WITH EVERYTHING THAT I'VE DONE, I MEAN I'M CUTTING 13,900 OUTTA MY BUDGET. YEAH. I, I MEAN, AND I DON'T THINK ANYBODY ELSE IS GOING, THAT'S A GREAT THING THAT YOU'RE DOING. I MEAN, MAYBE NOT THREE, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO KEEP SOME IN THERE. SO MAYBE A COUPLE OF TIMES. IT DOESN'T MATTER TO ME. I'M JUST ASKING BECAUSE I KNOW LAST YEAR WHEN YOU CAME YOU HAD A DETAILED LIST OF WHAT YOU WANTED TO BUY AND IT WASN'T WAS YEAR BEFORE LAST? IT WAS YEAR BEFORE LAST. YEAH. BUT UM, I 5,000, I REDUCED IT DOWN TO THREE JUST TO HAVE A BUFFER. YEAH. WHAT WAS IT THAT YOU WERE WANTING TO BUY THERE WERE PICKING AT YOU ABOUT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT? AND I WAS DOING [00:45:01] THAT JUST PICKTON MAN. OH, OKAY. IT WAS JUST ROPE CAMP A LOT. UH, IT'S, IT'S THE RESCUE RESCUE THOUGH. OH, I FORGOT ABOUT THAT. WE DID HAVE DUTY COUNCIL PAUL THAT WELL, SO COULD HIM A ROPE OR THE CAN. OKAY. UH, GENTLEMEN, WHAT DO YOU I'D LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND DECIDE THIS AND, AND LET, WELL, LET'S GOING DOWN THROUGH HERE, THE AMMUNITION. UH, I THINK WHAT WE DO YESTERDAY, AND WE HAVE SOMEBODY YESTERDAY THAT WANTED TO KEEP THE $500 IN AMMUNITION. WAIT, BUT WHAT? YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I'M GOING, I'M WONDERING IF THERE'S A, IF WE SHOULD KEEP THOSE CONSISTENT. UH, I NOTICED KEITH HAD, UH, A THOUSAND IN HIS. YEAH. AND AND THE ONLY REASON I WAS WANTING TO INCREASE THAT SO WE CAN DO MORE TRAINING. YEAH. AND IT'S GETTING HARDER TO, YOU'RE GONNA ALL BUY A BULK OR, OR Y'ALL HAVE MAYBE YOU GO TO, TO GET IT. YEAH. GT DISTRIBUTORS IN DALLAS. OKAY. AND WE BUY ONE WITH LIKE THE 2 23 ROUNDS WE BUY AROUND, UH, I THINK IT'S 500. AND I MEAN YOU GO THROUGH THOSE PRETTY QUICK AND YOU'RE SHOOTING TURN AROUND MAGAZINES AND I'D LIKE TO SEND HIM THE, THE PATROL OFFICER AS WELL. AND IT'S 500 GRAMS JUST TO GO TO SCHOOL. Y'ALL KEEP YOUR BRAS RECYCLING RELOAD FOR, WE'VE JUST ALWAYS PUT IT IN THE BARREL OUT THERE THAT THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE LEAVES OUT THERE TO PUT BRA IN. SO ANYBODY, I MEAN, UH, DO WE NEED TO BE CONSISTENT ON THE AMMUNITION? WELL, IS $250 PER PERSON ENOUGH OR AMMUNITION WITH THE CURRENT TRAINING THAT WE'RE DONE? I WAS JUST WANTING TRAINING. BUT, UH, WOULD IT BE A POSSIBILITY IF DOWN IN THE LINE WE USE THE NEW EQUIPMENT, IF WE DID NEED TO GET MORE, WE WOULD NEED TO MOVE A LINE ITEM FROM EQUIPMENT. EQUIPMENT. I MEAN IF WE COME ACROSS THAT BRIDGE THIS NEXT YEAR. YEAH. POSSIBILITY. AND I, I'M THINKING SEAN, DON'T YOU BUY FROM THE SAME VENDOR THAT THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE BUYS FROM? I THINK AMMUNITION IS SO CRAZY. JUST WHOEVER HAS IT. IF Y'ALL YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I FIXING SAY. Y'ALL REMEMBER THEY HAD ORDERED SOME AND IT TOOK FOREVER TO COME IN. SO, WELL, WE GO A FEW TIMES A YEAR UP THERE AND WE SEE WE GOT IT. WE'RE ON THE PHONE WITH LISA SAYING, FAX US A PO UP HERE. THEY'VE GOT O AND WE GET IT. I MEAN HE'S, HE'S CUT SO MUCH OUT OF HIS BUDGET. I DON'T SEE AN ISSUE GIVING HIM AN EXTRA 500. YEAH. JUST MY DECISION ISSUE IS DO WE NEED TO BE CONSISTENT WITH ALL? I THINK YOU SHOULD BE ALL THE, I THINK WE'LL JUST BUMP EVERYBODY UP TO A THOUSAND AND USE IT THIS DAY AND TIME WE TRAINING. WE GONNA HAVE TO START TRAINING. I MEAN WE GOTTA TRAINING MORE WITH THIS ISIS STUFF. WE NEVER KNOW WHEN THEY'RE GONNA GET DOWN HERE. ISIS, BANDIDOS BAD. SO WE'LL, WE'LL TRY TO BE CONSISTENT. THE 500 PER PERSON. WELL, YEAH. RIGHT. AND THE CONSTABLES THAT SHOULD DO IT. SO WE'LL NEED NO, I'LL CHANGE. NO PROBLEM. OKAY. SO, BUT I'D LIKE TO SEE HIM GET THE I SEE SEAN GET THE BRACES. HE'S GOT HIS PROFICIENCY. YEAH. ADMINISTRATOR. I WOULD RATHER SEE DANIEL GET HIS BEFORE I GET MINE IF SOMETHING COMES UP. YOU WERE KIND OF UH, UH, LEFT OUT LAST YEAR, SO WELL I UNDERSTAND, I UNDERSTAND THAT. I LIKE TO SEE THAT HAPPENED NOW THIS YEAR I WOULD JUST RATHER SEE DANIEL BEFORE I GET MINE BECAUSE I MEAN, HE'S DONE A LOT. STEPPED UP TO THE PLATE FOR ME THREE MONTHS WHEN I WAS DOWN ON MY LEG AND, AND UH, IT'S, IT'S REALLY SIGNED THIS YEAR. OKAY GENTLEMEN, WHAT DO YOU WANT TO DO ON THE REQUEST? HE'S DROPPING THAT BUDGET OUT. 15, 20,000 TO 20 WITH THE REQUEST THAT 5,000 GO TO YOU WOULDN'T HAVE ANY THEN? UH, NO. I, I AM NOT REFILLING POSITION. OKAY. SO IT WOULD HAVE ANY NOT AT THIS TIME OF BAIL. NO, WE, WE'VE NOT DONE ANYTHING ON ANY TYPE OF DUTY SALARIES I DON'T THINK AT THIS POINT. NO. AND WE'RE KIND OF PUTTING THOSE ASIDE BUT UH, YOU KNOW, UNTIL WE GET TO THAT, MAYBE THAT'S, WE'LL COME BACK AND REVISIT THIS MINUS 15,000 BUT YOU GONNA KEEP 5,000 BUT HE WANTS, WELL HE SAID NOTHING. YEAH, BUT I MEAN HE WANTS TO THAT TO GO TO UH, THAT 5,000 AND NOT, HE WOULDN'T, HE WOULD ZERO EXTRA HELP. YEAH, HE'D BE ZERO OUT. THAT'S ALL I'M SAYING. OKAY. SO YOU DON'T, YOU DON'T WANT TO KEEP FIVE NO. WHERE WE WORK OUT GOING TO SALARY OR WHEREVER WE NEED TO. OKAY. ABOUT SIX MONTHS AGO, UH, CONSTABLE MAYFIELD CAME TO ME AND I MADE A NOTE STILL HANGING ON MY COMPUTER, BUT HE WANTED TO GET THAT EXTRA [00:50:01] HELP UP AND HELP TO COUNT ME OUT AND HIS DEPARTMENT BETTER. OKAY. WELL THOSE WE A LITTLE FURTHER. THIS WE'RE JUST KIND OF THE PRELIMINARY STUFF AND WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE SOME DECISIONS WHERE WE CAN, LIKE WE TALKED, WE'RE GOING, THIS IS ONE OF PROBABLY THREE WORKSHOPS WE'LL HAVE BEFORE JUNE. AND, UH, ANYBODY ELSE HAVE REALLY DO APPRECIATE WHAT Y'ALL HAVE DONE ON THE TICKET RIDE. THAT'S BEEN VERY HELPFUL. HOPEFUL. THAT SAVED A LOT OF TIME FOR OUR CLERK. OH, OKAY. HEY, I DON'T HAVE, I DON'T HAVE A PINCH PENNY NOW. I BET YOU DO WORKED WITH HIM FOR 20 YEARS. YOU PINCH . ALRIGHT Y'ALL, ANYTHING ELSE? ALRIGHT, NEXT IS, UH, LAURIE, YOU WANT A LITTLE AHEAD OF TIME? YOU COME ON UP. LAURIE WAS OFF THE SCHOOL LAST WEEK AND I HAVEN'T TALKED TO YOU SINCE YOU GOT BACK. I, IT WAS RAMBLING. SO WE TALKED, WE HEARD A LOT OF ATTORNEYS, SO WE GOT A LOT OF LEGAL AND UNEMPLOYMENT AND OPEN RECORDS AND PRETTY GOOD STUFF. GOOD, GOOD ONE. GOOD. ALRIGHTY. LET'S, UH, YOU HAVE A NARRATIVE FROM HER ON THE, UH, RIGHT BEFORE THE ACTUAL BUDGET. SO WE'VE ASKED TO DO SO, UH, WELL I KNOW Y'ALL ALL THE WHOLE SALARY THING, BUT THIS IS THE SAME THING I COME WITH EVERY YEAR THAT MY DEPARTMENT IS STILL BEING ESTABLISHED. UM, WHEN I WAS FIRST HIRED THREE YEARS AGO, I WAS GIVEN $55,000 FOR EIGHT MONTHS OF THE YEAR. THAT INCLUDED MY SALARY AND MY STAFF SALARY, STAFF SALARY. SO THIS IS JUST, UM, REMINDING Y'ALL THAT WE STILL ARE TRYING TO GET TO WHERE WE SHOULD HAVE BEEN THE FIRST TIME. AND, UM, WE'VE TAKEN ON MORE AND MORE RESPONSIBILITY, MORE AND MORE, UM, DUTIES FROM OTHER DEPARTMENTS AND EVERYTHING, JUST TRYING TO GET THE COUNTY WHERE IT NEEDS TO. SO, UM, ALSO INCLUDED SOME SPREADSHEET, UH, FROM OTHER SIMILAR SIZE COUNTIES AND SURROUNDING COUNTIES. UM, AND THAT INFORMATION IS NOT EVEN UPDATED FROM THIS LAST YEAR, THAT IS LAST YEAR'S INFORMATION, SO, AND THAT'S RIGHT. THERE'S NO, YEAH, SO THERE'S NO TELLING THAT OTHER COUNTIES HAVE GOTTEN TO OVER THE LAST YEAR. OKAY. UM, I ALSO AM ASKING FOR SOME EXTRA HELP. UM, NOT TO SAY THAT I'M, I DON'T WANNA HIRE A PERMANENT EXTRA HELP PERSON. IT'S JUST TO HAVE IN CASE, UH, LIKE THIS LAST WEEK, UH, THIS TRAINING THAT WE WENT TO IS REALLY A GOOD TRAINING. SO I WANTED ALL THREE OF US TO GO AND, UM, LUCKILY I WAS ABLE TO PULL CASSIE FROM THE JUDGE'S OFFICE TO HELP OUT. BUT I REALLY LIKE TO HAVE A PART-TIME PERSON JUST ON STANDBY OR HOW OFTEN DO YOU ANTICIPATE THAT HAPPENING? WHERE ALL THREE OF Y'ALL GOING? I DON'T ANTICIPATE IT HAPPENING VERY FREQUENTLY. UM, THAT THIS WORK CONFERENCE WAS JUST, THE AGENDA WAS REALLY AWESOME AND I, I FELT THE NEED ALREADY BE THERE, BUT THE MAJORITY OF MY TIME FOR THE CONFERENCES WOULD BE JUST TWO OF US AND ONE STAYING BEHIND. WHETHER THAT BE ME STAYING BEHIND OR ONE OF THE OTHER GIRLS. UM, 'CAUSE I, I DON'T, I DON'T WANT THAT TO HAPPEN, BUT IT WAS JUST A GOOD AGENDA THAT I DIDN'T WANNA PASS UP ON. UM, BUT THEN WE'VE GOT OUR BUSY TIME OF YEAR TO OPEN ENROLLMENT AND I MEAN, WE PULL LONG HOURS GETTING STUFF READY AND ALL KINDS OF STUFF. SO BE NICE TO HAVE SOMEONE TO HELP OUT WITH THAT OR FILING WE WERE BEHIND AND THOSE KINDS OF THINGS. I HAD A, A GIRL THAT CAME BACK OR SHE WAS IN SCHOOL ACTUALLY FOR AN HR DEGREE AND I HIRED HER TO INTERN WITH ME FOR A COUPLE WEEKS AND SHE WAS AWESOME HAVING JUST SOMEONE THAT IS LEARNING HR AND TEACHING AND SHE ACTUALLY HELPED ME A LOT WITH JOB DESCRIPTIONS AND STUFF. SO KIND OF A, LUCKILY I STAYED A COUPLE OF MONTHS WHEN I DIDN'T FILL THAT POSITION THAT I GOT, SO I WAS ABLE TO PAY HER OUTTA THAT. BUT SO, AND THEN LASTLY THE EMPLOYEE DRUG TEST LINE ITEM IN THE NEW HIRE LINE ITEM. I WOULD SIMPLY JUST LIKE IT TO BE REMOVED FROM MY BUDGET. UM, I DON'T FEEL THAT IT'S EVER BEING ACCOUNTED FOR ELSEWHERE BESIDES, I'M THE ONLY ONE SEEING IT. SO WE HAVE A LOT OF TURNOVER AND A LOT OF NEW HIRES AND IT COST ME $46 TO HIRE ONE PERSON, HAVE SOMEONE HIRED ON, AND THEN THE NEXT DAY OF QUITTING OR TERMINATED OR WHATEVER. IT JUST, [00:55:01] UM, SO WHERE WOULD THE MONEY COME FROM IF NOT FROM THIS? WELL, WE'D PROBABLY JUST PUT IT IN THAT, IN OUR, UH, FUND. WHAT IS THE GENERAL GOVERNMENT FUND? I GUESS 4 0 9. YEAH. THIS IS LIKE THE SAME WORK. OTHER BENEFITS THAT WE DO OR OTHER INSURANCE, INSURANCE STUFF. THAT'S THE, THE, THE GENERAL GOVERNMENT FUND, YOU KNOW, THAT'S THE, THE BIG FUND WORLD. PAY OUR HEALTH INSURANCE. BUT I MEAN SHOULD, SHOULD NOT, SHOULD THIS NOT BE BROKEN OUT SO THAT WE KNOW WHAT WE'RE SPENDING ON THE, ON THE YEARLY BASIS FOR, FOR, YOU KNOW, DRUG TEST, FOR OUR, OUR TURNOVER CHECK, YOU KNOW, BASICALLY, WHICH ALWAYS GONNA BE THE SAME PRICE EACH YEAR FOR DRUG TESTS. ALWAYS PRETTY MUCH STAY THE SAME PRICE BACKGROUND CHECKS. THE CORRECT ONE WE USE RIGHT NOW IS $45 FOR A DRUG TEST. 45 UHHUH, IT'S $45 FOR AN ALCOHOL TEST. AND THEN MY BACKGROUND CHECKS, IT'S A DOLLAR PER SEARCH. YOU JUST PUT IT DOWN AND I DO, YES. UNLESS, UNLESS I GET A HIT ON, BECAUSE I HAVE A, A PRIVATE SITE AND A PUBLIC SITE, RIGHT. SO PRIVATE SITE, IF THE PRIVATE SITE, IF THEY HIT ON A PRIVATE SITE, I CAN'T SHARE THAT WITH THE SUPERVISOR. SO I HAVE TO RUN IT ON THE PUBLIC SITE, UM, TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S PUBLIC RECORD AND THEN THAT COST ME $3 SO IT CAN COST ME ANYWHERE DOLLAR AND FOUR ON ONE PERSON. GENERALLY 98% OF THE TIME IT'S JUST THE ONE. IF IT GOES INTO 4 0 9, WHO'S GONNA CONTROL IT AND RUN IT? I MEAN, I WOULD STILL CONTINUE TO DO THE BILL BECAUSE I WOULD STILL GET THE BILL. AND, AND THE REASON, AND WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS, THE REASON YOU WANT TO MOVE IT FROM YOUR BUDGET, UH, TO, YOU KNOW, LOCATED SOMEWHERE ELSE. I MEAN IT COULD BE PUT IN THE COUNTY JUDGE'S BUDGET I GUESS FOR THAT MATTER, EVEN THOUGH I DON'T KNOW THAT IT WOULD FIT THERE, BUT IT'S BECAUSE YOU'RE WORRIED ABOUT IT GOING OVER WHAT? WELL, IN THE YEARS PAST I HAVE HAD TO MOVE MONEY. LIKE MY, MY OFFICE APPLIES TO FUND THAT, LOOKING FOR THAT. OKAY. UM, SO I JUST DON'T FEEL THAT IT'S BEING, THAT PEOPLE ARE REALLY REALIZING WHERE THAT MONEY'S COMING FROM WHEN WE HIRE THE EXTENT OF COST THAT WE HAVE TO HIRE SOMEBODY. SO IT HITS YOUR BUDGET AND IT MAY NOT BE THE CAUSE OF ANYTHING THAT, UH, THAT YOU MAYBE WE PUTTING THAT IN A LONG BUDGET, PEOPLE THAT JUST INCREASE THE BUDGET BUDGET. NO, I'M JUST SAYING RESOURCE RELATED. THEY ALL DO HIRE AND JUST INCREASE THE BUDGET. WELL THAT, THAT'S NOT, THAT'S NOT GONNA HAVE ANY IMPACT ON ANY OF OUR DEPARTMENTS, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE PEOPLE LEAVE FOR UNKNOWN REASONS, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE NO CONTROL OVER. SO IT'S NOT LIKE, WELL WE GOING TO CONTROL OUR, OUR TURNOVER BECAUSE OF A $45 TRUCK TEST. YOU KNOW, THAT'S, DID WE INCREASE THAT LAST YEAR? MM-HMM WE'VE INCREASED IT OVER A YEAR BECAUSE I NOTICED IN 2013 WE SPENT SPENT 28 15 AND 5 61 AND LOOKED LIKE THROUGH APRIL 30TH, 1195 AND I HAVE NOT DONE A RANDOM TEST THIS YEAR. YOU'VE NOT DONE, I HAVE NOT DONE A RANDOM TEST ON CDL BECAUSE I, WE'VE HAD SO MUCH TURNOVER THAT I DIDN'T WANT GET THE BUDGET. SO, OKAY. WELL IT SOUND LIKE I HAVE TO PICK AND CHOOSE THE, THE PROBLEM THIS, THIS WAS PUT IN HER BUDGET BECAUSE SHE'S THE HR DIRECTOR, RIGHT? THAT'S HER JOB. YEAH. TO RUN THOSE. OKAY. SHE SHOULDN'T HAVE TO TAKE FROM ONE OF HER OTHER LINE ITEMS. I ALREADY TO COVER THE WHOLE COUNTY'S EMPLOYEES. WE SHOULD PUT, SO THEN SHE SHOULD COME AND SAY, KAREN KW NEEDS TO REQUEST A LINE TRANSFER AND LET'S TAKE IT FROM SOME OTHER LINE ITEM OUT OF HER BUDGET. MAYBE LOWER THE HEALTH INSURANCE OR SOMETHING BY THAT SMALL AMOUNT. IT'S NEVER A WHOLE LOT AND COVER THAT WHERE YOU KNOW THE EMPLOYEES ARE COVERED BUT IT'S IN THE RIGHT DEPARTMENT. YEAH. I THINK IT NEEDS TO STAY IN HR BUT IT DOES NOT NEED TO BE, IT SHOULD NOT PUNISH YOUR BUDGET. YEAH. PUT ANOTHER THOUSAND, PUT 5,000 IN THERE FOR THE DRUG TEST BECAUSE THE CDLS THAT NEED BE RUN, WE NEED MORE MONEY. YEAH, THAT'S, WE SUPPOSED TO FIVE MONTHS SO EVERYBODY BE GOING UP TO 5,000 ON AND THEN WE DON'T HAVE AS MUCH TURNOVER. IT WOULDN'T BE BEEN ON ACCOUNT FOR THAT EITHER THOUGH. NO. AND, AND I PROBABLY WON'T. NO. AND I THINK LAST YEAR I DID IT TWICE. YEAH. UH, THIS YEAR I HAVEN'T BEEN ONE, I PLAN TO RUN ONE. I TRIED TO PICK A GOOD TIME. IF WE I WOULD, SORRY. I WOULD RECOMMEND MAKING THE DRUG TEST LINE ITEM 5,000. SHE PROBABLY WON'T GO OVER THAT. YEAH. ALRIGHT. AND THEN MAYBE THE NEW HIGHER BACKGROUND BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT PART OF THE ISSUE HAS HAPPENED WHERE I WOULD PUT IT AT TWO, $250, THEN SHE'S PRETTY WELL COVERED. IF SHE SEES AN ISSUE BY MARCH OR APRIL, THEN WE NEED TO BRING THAT BACK TO COURT AND SAY, HEY, WE [01:00:01] NEED A SMALL LEFT. WE NEED SOME MORE MONEY BECAUSE OF THIS, THIS, AND THIS. HISTORICALLY WE HAVEN'T SPLIT THAT. NO, I'M OKAY WITH THE NEW HIRE STAYING AT A HUNDRED. YEAH. I I THINK I, EVEN THOUGH WE SPENT A HUNDRED FIFTEEN EIGHTY SIX, WELL, UM, THAT WAS BACK BEFORE WE GOT ON DPS WEBSITE TO DO THE DOLLAR SEARCH ALLOWED. WE WERE DOING, YEAH, WE WERE DOING A $3 SEARCH. SO EVERY, WHAT WAS COST THREE. OKAY. A HUNDRED. MM-HMM . I THINK THE HUNDRED'S FINE. FIVE. FIVE WE DID THAT DRUG TEST. ONE ALSO IS FOR REASONABLE SUSPICION, IT'S ALSO FOR OUR WORKERS' COMP COMES OUT OF THAT. SO, UM, PART WHATEVER. YEAH, I FINE WITH IT. I JUST, JUST NEED MORE MONEY. YEAH. YEAH. YOU HAVE VOTE SOMEWHERE ELSE. AND ON THE, UH, ON, AS YOU WERE US SAYING HERE ON THE OTHER, IS A THING TAKEN OVER THAT GO AT THE OTHER THING, THE EXTRA HELP TO THAT $8,000 IS JUST KIND OF WELL, I JUST ESTIMATED YEAH. AURA THAT, THAT MIGHT BE YEAH. AND THEY CAN DO LOWER SPINE. UM, I JUST KIND OF ESTIMATED THAT WHAT I HAD PAID, UM, THE OTHER, AND I DON'T REMEMBER WHAT I PAID HER HOURLY AND BASED ON LIKE THE 24 HOUR MAX HER WORKING, SOMEBODY WORKING. SO I DON'T THINK I WOULD EXCEED THAT. YEAH. I DON'T, YOU KNOW, I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH LIKE, CASEY CAME OVER AND WORKED, SHE WAS ABLE TO CONTINUE HER WORK HERE, YOU KNOW, ON THE COMPUTER. SO I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH SHARING RESOURCES IF WE HAVE RESOURCES TO SHARE. NOT FOR MONTHS OR WEEKS OR SOMETHING, BUT FOR TWO OR THREE DAYS. BUT, UH, BUT WE'LL COME BACK AND MAYBE LOOK FOR WHAT WE COULD DO ON, ON THAT. I DUNNO THAT 8,000 IS, YOU KNOW, BUT, UH, CERTAINLY, YOU KNOW, IT'S SOMETHING WE NEED TO TAKE BECAUSE WE, ESPECIALLY ON HR, ON EVERY DEPART FOR THAT MATTER. BUT CERTAINLY YOU, YOU KNOW, YOU NEED TO KEEP A TRUCK AND THAT'S WAY YOU LEARN BY GOING OFF TO THE TO DO THAT, YOU KNOW. SO, SO ANYTHING ELSE ON THE HR SIDE? UH, HEALTH INSURANCE. WHEN WILL WE HAVE A OF SAID THEIR MEETING WAS JUNE THE 20TH. I, IF I CAN CHECK, UM, FOR THEM TO DISCUSS THE RATES AND THINGS. THERE IS A CONFERENCE OR A WEBINAR, I CAN'T REMEMBER THE END OF THIS WEEK OR FIRST OF NEXT WEEK THAT THEY'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT THE CHANGES AND THE RENEWALS. I, I HAVEN'T, I HAVEN'T. THEY'LL GIVE YOU REPORTS. UM, I THINK I JUST GOT A REPORT FOR THE DAY, BUT I HAVEN'T LOOKED AT IT TO BE HONEST. UM, WE, WE'VE HAD SOME HIGH CLAIM YEARS. WE HAD SEVERAL, SEVERAL CANCER CLAIMS. UM, THAT IS OUR HIGH EXPENSE. UM, THAT NO, AND WE GOT RETIREES. WE HAD TWO RETIREES THAT WERE ON, UM, DIALYSIS. SO THAT WAS A REALLY HIGH EXPENSE. I BELIEVE ONE OF THOSE HAD DROPPED OFF. UM, THEY'VE AGED OUT SO THEY'RE NOT ALL GETTING OUR INSURANCE, BUT UM, WE'VE GOT SOME PRETTY UNHEALTHY ONES AND MOST OF IT, LIKE I SAID, IS A CANCER AND I MEAN WE CAN'T, WE CAN'T DO MUCH TO PREVENT THAT. BUT WE'VE TRIED FEEL BAD. WE'RE TRYING TO DO MORE HEALTH INCENTIVES AND WORKING ON THE CHANGING THE TOBACCO THING. UM, CASSIE, WELLNESS WOMAN, SHE SENT ME OUT A LOT. AND UM, JUST TRYING TO GET THE WORD OUT TO GET PEOPLE MORE ACTIVE AND MORE HEALTHY. WE'VE DONE THE, THE HEALTH FAIR, WE'RE WORKING ON DOING A STROKE SCREENING, UM, TO HELP PEOPLE. UM, IT'S FREE ON INSURANCE, ALL THAT. SO WE'RE WORKING ON MORE PREVENTATIVE CARE, TRYING TO GET PEOPLE MORE, YOU MIGHT TELL THE COMMISSIONERS WHAT YOU TOLD ME ABOUT DOING THE TAXES, REALLY PLEASED WHERE THEY ARE. HEALTHY COUNTY PROGRAM THAT CASHIE AND, AND LAURIE REALLY PRETTY WELL OPERATE, BUT THEY GAVE US A CREDIT. UH, YES, YOU MIGHT BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN, WE'RE ONE OF THE FEW COUNTIES I THOUGHT WE WERE BEHIND IN TIME. SO THEY APPARENTLY NOT. WE'RE ONE OF THE FEW COUNTIES THAT HAVE IMPLEMENTED A WELLNESS PROGRAM. AND SO OUR WELLNESS PROGRAM CONSISTS OF OUR, UM, WELLNESS SITE. YOU GO AND GET YOUR DOCTOR'S APPOINTMENT OR WHATEVER AND THEN WE REWARD THE EMPLOYEE EIGHT HOURS OR WE CHARGE THE EMPLOYEE AND THEN ALSO THE TOBACCO PROGRAM THAT WE HAVE THAT WE'RE KIND OF ALTERING AND THE BLOOD, UH, THAT WE'VE DONE, THE BLOOD BLOOD TEST ACTUALLY SAVED ONE LADY'S LIFE BLOOD SCREENING. SO WE CONTINUED TO DO THINGS THROUGHOUT THE YEAR AND UM, TACK WAS MADE AWARE OF THAT LAST YEAR AND THEY GAVE US A 1% DISCOUNT ON OUR RENEWAL RATE LAST YEAR. SO, UM, AND THEN THIS YEAR AT THE HEALTHY COUNTY CONFERENCE, THEY ASKED CASIE AND I TO COME SPEAK ABOUT WHAT WE'RE DOING AND SHE WAS DOING, SO WE WENT AND DID THAT AND EVERYBODY WAS PRETTY PLEASED. I'M HOPING TO JUST KIND OF EXPAND ON IT MORE, DO MORE INCENTIVES AND HOPEFULLY T WILL STILL TAKE NOTICE AND GIVE US ONE DISCOUNTS. YEAH. SAY ON [01:05:03] WALL STREET. EVERYBODY REPORT I READ THAT THIS MORNING. YEAH, I READ THAT MORNING SEEN AND OUR RATES CONTINUED. THE, I THINK TWO YEARS AGO OUR RATE WAS 14% AND LAST YEAR IT WAS 7% RENEWAL. SO RENEW 10% THIS YEAR. YEAH. YEAH. BEFORE INSURANCE GONNA COST 25,000 BUCKS. WELL YEAH, THANK LOOK GOOD TO FIGURE OUT SOMETHING NEW. YEAH. IT'S BEEN ONGOING FOREVER. TELL 'EM, UH, OR I SAY TELL 'EM, AND I, YOU MAY BE AWARE, BUT I KNOW WE GOT A NOTICE THAT OUR CONTRIBUTION TO THE TC DS THE RETIREMENT SYSTEM MM-HMM. WE'VE BEEN PAYING 9.9 POINT WHAT? OUR NEW RATE IS 9 9 6 1. OKAY. WE'RE PAYING 9 7 2 OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. YEAH. IT'S GONE DOWN A FEW BASIS POINTS, BUT UH, YOU KNOW, IT WENT UP THERE FOR A WHILE. WE WERE GOING UP HALF PERCENT AND THAT'S REALLY, THAT'S BIG MONEY. I MEAN, BUT NOW LAST YEAR I THINK IT STAYED ABOUT EVEN, I THINK IT BEEN DONE JUST A LITTLE BIT, BUT NOT AFTER THAT. SO THIS YEAR IT'S GOING TO GO DOWN A LITTLE BIT MORE AND WE'RE PAYING 9.75 JUDGE RIGHT NOW. YEAH. AND THE NEW RIGHT'S GONNA BE 9.61, SO THAT'S OPPOSITE 14 BASIS POINTS. SO, AND THEN I'M HOPING OUR WORKERS' COMP LIST GO KEEP GOING BACK. YEAH. WE HAVEN'T, WE DON'T GET OUR, OUR WORKERS' COMP NUMBERS UNTIL DECEMBER, IF I REMEMBER. UH, JANUARY. JANUARY MM-HMM . AND SO WHAT WE'VE DONE, WE'VE JUST HISTORICALLY BASED WHAT WE PAID THE YEAR BEFORE LAST YEAR WE WENT UP LAST YEAR WE BUDGETED THE SAME AND WE WENT UP BECAUSE OF, WE HAD SOME PRETTY HIGH SIGNIFICANT CLAIMS. UM, OUR NUMBER OF CLAIMS HAVE REDUCED, BUT THE COST OF OUR CLAIMS HAVE REDUCED GONE UP. YEAH. SO WE'RE HAVING MORE SEVERE CLAIMS AND WE HAD TO, I MADE CLAIMS WAY EIGHT. OH, I'M NOT GONNA MAKE A NUMBER OFF HEAD. I CAN LOOK FOR THOUGH. I HAD ONE, I'VE TWO DO THIS YEAR. A LOT OF THEM ARE FROM JAIL. I MEAN ARE, YOU KNOW, I MEAN THEY'RE A CUT FINGER OR SOMETHING. YEAH. AND THOSE ARE, THOSE ARE THOSE COSTS ARE VERY SMALL MEDICAL BILLS. WE, I HAD ONE FROM YOU THAT WAS OUT FOR A WHILE AND ONE FROM YOU THAT WAS OUT FOR A WHILE. AND THEN I KNOW THAT I'VE HAD TWO OR THREE OF THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE THAT WERE OUT FOR A WHILE. SO IN THE LAST COUPLE MONTHS, MOST OF THEM ARE SLIPS AND CRAWLS MOST OF THEM BACK, BACK PROBLEMS AND STUFF LIKE THAT. YEAH. ARMS, LIKE SHOULDERS WE WOULD PROBABLY BE IN BETTER SHAPE. BUT WHEN MARK WAS KILLED, THAT WAS A WORKER'S COMP CLAIM AND THE SAME YEAR WE HAD THE CONSTABLE THAT PUT THE CAR. SO THOSE ARE OUR TWO. YEAH. AND WE WERE, WE WERE STEADILY HAND, YOU KNOW, HEADED DOWN AND THEN THAT KIND OF SET US BACK. BUT HOPEFULLY, UH, I KNOW T IS PLEASED, I THINK WITH THE EFFORTS WE'VE MADE AT THIS POINT TO TRY TO AND I'M LOOKING, WE'RE TRYING TO GET SIMILAR TRAIN SET UP AND THEY ALWAYS CONTACT ME AT SUMMER TO GET TRAINING FOR YOU GUYS AND I'M LIKE, NOPE. CAN'T DO IT. SO I'M, I'M SCHEDULING WITH THEM LIKE SEPTEMBER, OCTOBER TRYING TO GET SOME MORE TRAINING BECAUSE WE'RE OVERDUE. WE HAVEN'T HAD YET. OCTOBER, NOVEMBER 1ST NOVEMBER I LEFT. NO, I DON'T THINK I LEFT OUT A COUPLE YEARS AGO. WE HAD A TRAINING AND WE JUST BY CHANCE DID IT IN MAY AND EVERYBODY WAS SO MAD AT ME BECAUSE IT WAS Y'S BUSY TIME OF YEAR AND IT WAS THE ONE DAY OUTTA THE WEEK THAT WE GOT PULLING DOWN. RIGHT. AND ALL 15 EMPLOYEES SHOULDA HAD IT ALREADY THEN. SURE. YEAH. WE MISSED. BUT WE WORKED ON, I THINK JUST THE TRAINING, JUST A CONSTANT REMINDER OF, YOU KNOW, THAT SAFETY STUFF JUST HELPS AND THEY HATE HEARING ABOUT IT, BUT THEY GET INTO THE ROUTES AND ROUTINES AND THEY FORGET. SO. OKAY. OKAY. Y'ALL HAVE ANY MORE QUESTIONS FOR I APPRECIATE AND I, I, I THINK I TOLD ONE OF YOUR STORY FIRST STARTED HERE, THE THIRD OR FOURTH DAY I WAS ON A JOB. I GOT A CALL FROM TA FROM THE WORKING COMP PEOPLE AND THEY SAID, JUDGE, Y'ALL GOT TO YOUR WORKER'S COMP IS TOTALLY OUT OF CONTROL. AND, UH, I SAID, WELL, AND WE HAD PEOPLE, UH, ALL THAT WERE DRAWING WORKERS COMP AS WELL AS AND UH, I MEAN WE, I THINK WE WERE THE THIRD HIGH WORKER COMP IN TEXAS, THE COUNTY. AND SO I SAID, YOU KNOW, WE, BECAUSE IT WAS HURTING FROM THEIR POOL, OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT SALARY CONTINUATION. SO LAW ENFORCEMENT ARE OUT, THEY CONTINUE TO GET ONE SALARY AND SO [01:10:01] THAT MAKE SURE COST OF CLAIMS GO. SO YOU REALLY WANT TO GET YOUR LAW ENFORCEMENT BACK TO WORK OUR, THAT OUR POLICY OR A STATE? A STATE STATE TEXAS WORKFORCE COMMISSION, ANY LAW ENFORCEMENT, THEY GOT A VERY GOOD LOBBY. MM-HMM. ATION. IT'S A DANGEROUS JOB. ABSOLUTELY. THAT EVERYBODY ELSE IS, THEY DON'T. OKAY. THANKS VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. YOU'RE AHOLIC. WE NEED YOU, YOU STAY IN HERE SOME I THINK TOO. YEAH, RIGHT. RANDY, YOU WANT TO, IS EVERYBODY OKAY? AND YOU CAN TAKE A BREAK OR ANYTHING? WE STILL GOOD? WE GOT A BREAK UP HERE IN A LITTLE BIT. SO GOOD MORNING. GOOD MORNING SIR. RANDY ALWAYS PUT TOGETHER A GOOD DOCUMENT FOR BEFORE WE GET STARTED, DO YOU WANNA TELL US HOW THE BLENDING OF THE, UH, DEPARTMENTS HAS WORKED AS FAR AS FIRE MARSHAL AND ENVIRONMENTAL AND COMING ALONG? REAL GOOD. UH, ENVIRONMENTAL OFFICERS, THEY'VE ALWAYS, YOU KNOW, SOMEWHAT WORK HAND IN HAND, BOTH PUBLIC WORKS AND OFFICE AND, UH, COMMUNICATION WISE, WE'RE ALL THERE TOGETHER. IT'S REALLY COME AROUND BETTER. A LOT OF, A LOT OF CASES, A LOT OF CROSS CONVERSATIONS AND GET SOME STUFF CLEANED UP. THEN THEY'RE ALSO ABLE TO HELP A LITTLE BIT WITH THE PUBLIC WORK STATUS. YOU KNOW, WHEN THEY DO THEIR INVESTIGATIONS NOT BEING LAW ENFORCEMENT, THE DATABASE THAT THEY USE IS NOT AS SPECIFIC OR AS, UH, DETAILED, I GUESS MORE LAW ENFORCEMENT DATABASE, BUT IT WORKS MOSTLY TYPE. BUT IF THEY RUN INTO A SNAG AND, UH, ENVIRONMENTAL PEOPLE HELP THEM, THEY HAVE FULL ACCESS ENVIRONMENTAL GUIDANCE TO EVERYTHING LIKE THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT HAS. WELL, YES SIR. THAT'S PART OF THE, UH, MY REQUEST THAT YOU'LL SEE WHEN WE GET TO THE ENVIRONMENTAL IS, UH, THEY'RE USING A PROGRAM CALLED TLO, IT'S LAW ENFORCEMENT DATABASE SIMILAR TO LEXUS NEXUS, CLEAR, YOU KNOW, THINGS LIKE THAT. MM-HMM . AND, UH, I GOT A PHONE CALL HERE WHILE BACK FROM THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE, SAID, HEY, RETIRED. SO, UH, AND UH, I DIDN'T KNOW IF IT WAS A, A LINE ITEM BUDGET OR IT WAS JUST A COUNTYWIDE, BUT APPARENTLY IT WAS, UH, PER OFFICER TYPE YEAH. USAGE, DEPENDING ON HOW YOU SET YOUR ACCOUNT UP, YOU CAN PAY A LUMP SUM FOR SO MANY ENTRIES OR USAGE. UH, I'VE OPTED, YOU KNOW, 'CAUSE OF THIS A SMALL APARTMENT I'VE OPTED TO GO REQUEST. WE'VE ACTUALLY ALREADY ACQUIRED AN ACCOUNT AND I'VE BEEN PAYING FOR IT. I BELIEVE I OFFERED A COUPLE OF THE, UH, TOWARDS THE BACK OF THE, UH, ENVIRONMENTAL ENFORCEMENT THAT THERE'S A COUPLE DOCUMENTS THERE, THE RECEIPTS, T YELLOW, WE'RE DOING A PER USE BASE AND IT'S RUNNING, YOU KNOW, BALLPARK 50 BUCKS, SOMETHING LIKE THAT A MONTH DEPENDING ON HOW MANY SEARCHES THAT THEY DO AND, AND HOW DETAILED THAT THEY NEED TO DO THOSE. I THINK ON, UH, THERE'S 53 25 FOR THE MONTH OF MARCH, AND THEN FOR THE, AFTER THE MONTH OF APRIL WAS 40. I'VE ACTUALLY GOT THE DETAIL SHEET WHERE IT BREAKS IT DOWN. YEAH. PER OFFICER WHAT THEY DID. I DIDN'T KNOW HOW MUCH Y'ALL WANTED. BE INATED THE PAPERWORK. WHY DON'T WE GO AHEAD AND START ON THE PUBLIC WORK. IS THE ITEM FIVE 20-YEAR-OLD? FIVE 20 AND UH, KIND OF GO THROUGH, UH, THAT BENEFITS. I THINK EVERYBODY, YOU WAS AWARE OF WHAT WE HAD DISCUSSED. YOU'VE HAD SOME CHANGES. YEAH. YOU'VE, UH, WIFE KEN RETIRED AND, UH, TRISH RETIRED. SO YOU, UH, RECO FROM THAT. I BELIEVE WE'VE RECOUPED FROM THAT. UH, PLUS I, UH, BECAUSE AT, AT VCS SEARCH IS WHAT PUBLIC WORKS USES AND YOU GOTTA LOOK AT THAT. AND [01:15:02] I FELT THAT THEY WERE USING THE CADILLAC PORTION OF IT MORE SO THAN THEY NEEDED TO. SO I'VE ESTABLISHED SOME THE POLICIES AND PROCEDURES AND GO OUT AND GET THE INFORMATION AND UH, AND BECAUSE OF THAT I'VE ACTUALLY CUT, UH, 2000 OUT THAT LINE OUT 49, 40 4% OF THAT PARTICULAR LINE ITEM THAT I'VE CUT, UH, TO TRY TO HELP OUT WITH, WITH OUR OTHER NEEDS. ONE BEING SECRETARY. AND, UH, THE OTHER IS WE NEVER HAD A TOOL EQUIPMENT LINE ITEM. THAT DEPARTMENT AND OF ALL THE ITEMS THAT WE BUY, MEAN APPROACH, SHOVELS LEVELS, EVERYTHING YOU DO THAT THERE'S NEVER BEEN A A DECENT LINE ITEM TO TAKE ANYTHING OUTTA YOU THINK PARTS IN REPAIR. I HAVE NO IDEA. THIS IS MY FIRST YEAR IN. YES. SO, WELL, YOU HAVE PARTS REPAIR 2,500 AND YOU ONLY USE 5 95. THAT ACTUALLY, UH, SINCE, I MEAN ITEMS, BIG PARTS TOO BEEN ANOTHER 500 OR SO THAT'S COME OUT THAT OVER THE LAST TWO, THREE APARTMENT I, I'VE JUST ABOUT $2,000 FOR REPAIRS AND I'VE GOT ANOTHER LIKE 800. I'VE GOT ONE VEHICLE IN OUR PLATE THAT HAS A BROKEN GONNA BE SHARP THERE. YEAH, PROBABLY SO. BUT I WAS, YOU KNOW, THE A THOUSAND I BELIEVE IS A, A GOOD ROUNDABOUT NUMBER FOR THE TYPES OF EQUIPMENT. YOU KNOW, WE HAD A CORDLESS DRILL. WE DON'T, BY LAST IT'S NOT USED THAT MUCH. KNOW WHAT I MEAN? IT'S USED DAILY ALMOST, BUT IT'S NOT USED HEAVILY. IT'S JUST A FEW TAKE BIDS OFF OF THE SAFETY COVERS OR THE COVER OFF OF A PAD BOX. MM-HMM. UH, WHEN THEY CHECK THE SYSTEM, WE HAVE TO DO THE LEVELING SYSTEM. AND I FOUND THAT, UH, THE LASER LEVELS WORK MUCH BETTER. THE FOUR FOOT LEVELS AND EVERYTHING JUST AS SO BEEN BEEN A LOT OF CHANGES, PROCEDURAL CHANGES, THE WAY WE DO THINGS AND IT'S COMING AROUND A LOT MORE EFFICIENT NOW. AND UH, THE NUMBERS ARE JUST DRASTIC GOING, GOING UP ON WHAT WE CAN ON THE LEASE PAYMENTS. WHAT ARE, WHAT ARE Y'ALL LEASING? I'M GOING ASK KAREN TO HELP ME OUT WITH THAT. LIKE I SAY, I JUST CAME IN TO THIS DEPARTMENT AND THAT'S THE TWO VEHICLE IS IT? OKAY IT, THE TWO FORDS THAT WE HAVE, LOOK AT THOSE TWO. WHAT IS IT THE LEASE, WHAT IS, DO YOU KNOW WHO TWO CARS, THE CARS FORD AND YOU KNOW, HOW MANY, HOW MANY YEARS IS LEFT? I BELIEVE THIS IS THE LAST, THIS BUDGET WILL BE THE LAST YEAR. RIGHT. WHY DON'T WE LOOK AT THAT? THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING WE MIGHT WANNA GO AHEAD AND PAY OUT THIS YEAR'S BUDGET, YOU KNOW, AFTER WE GET A LITTLE FURTHER DOWN THE WAY AND NOT HAVE TO BUDGET FOR THAT FUTURE TWO. WE'RE NOT TRYING TO REPLACE THEM OR ANYTHING, WE'RE JUST PAYING THEM OFF. AND THAT'S STRICTLY IN PUBLIC WORKS. NO. WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN KNOW, LEASE OR WHAT? A LEASE PURCHASE. LEASE PURCHASE. WE'LL HAVE. IS IT A LEASE PURCHASE? IT'S JUST LEASE PAID OFF, RIGHT? YOU'RE SAYING, YOU'RE SAYING YES THEY ARE LEASE PURCHASE IT JUST LAST PAYMENTS GOOD DOLLAR. I CAN'T TELL YOU WHEN THE LAST PAYMENT IT IS, BUT I KNOW THAT THEY WERE, WHEN UH, PUBLIC WORKS TURNED IN THERE, THEY HAD CAR OUNCES AND WHEN THEY GOT RID OF THOSE, THEY BOUGHT THOSE TWO VEHICLES. I THINK THEY WERE LIKE THREE YEARS IN RIGHT HERE. SOMETHING LIKE THAT. THEY'RE PROBABLY REAL PLUS PEOPLE LIKE KAREN SAID, PROBABLY. OKAY, BUT I, WE PAYING INTEREST YOU THE MONEY. YEAH. IF YOU LOOK THOUGH, THE INTEREST IS NOT MUCH NOW IT'S JUST PRINCIPAL MIGHT IT MIGHT, IT MIGHT MAKE YOU PAY ALL THE INTEREST ANYWAY IN SOME THOSE PLACES. SOME OF THEM, YOU KNOW, YOU DON'T WE 75 YEAH, THERE'S NO, BUT YOU'RE NOT GOING GET THAT FAR AHEAD. YEAH, RIGHT. THERE'S JUST NO GOOD REASON. AGAIN, IT'S SOMETHING THAT THOSE DO SHOW UP ON OUR AUDIT REPORT, SO NO REASON WE CAN'T PUT THAT THREE, WE DROP LINE [01:20:01] 32 0 4 INTEREST. THAT'S THE INTEREST ON THAT LEASE. OH, OKAY. BECAUSE WE DON'T, EVERYTHING'S DIGITAL. YEAH, I THINK IT'S TWO VEHICLE. I THINK IT IS. I BELIEVE EVERYTHING ELSE WAS BOUGHT, ALL THE FIRE FRONT. IS THAT CORRECT? RANDY? WASN'T ALL THE REST OF YOUR VEHICLES BOUGHT OUTTA THE FIRE FUND? THE VEHICLE FOR THE FIRE MARSHAL'S OFFICE? THE LAST THREE VEHICLES HAVE BEEN PURCHASED OUTTA THE FIRE THAT THAT SHOULD BE. IT'S, IT PAYS OFF. IT PAYS OFF IN JUNE AND ALL. WE OWE A LITTLE LESS THAN 5,600 THIS YEAR, NEXT YEAR, NEXT JUNE, 2016. WE ONLY OWN 5,600 FOR THE WHOLE THING. NOW AFTER WE MAKE THESE, THESE PAYMENTS, SO WE GOT 13, UH, 13,000 SOMETHING THAT, WELL WE PAY IT, WE PAY IT MONTHLY. OH, OKAY. OKAY. SO WE, WE WOULD OWE THAT'S THE WHOLE YEAR'S MONTHLY PAYMENTS. YEAH. I GOT, WE WOULD OWE JULY, JULY, JULY, AUGUST, SEPTEMBER PLUS 56. YEAH. WE, WE COULD PAY THAT OFF'S TOO OUT, GET A LITTLE DEEPER INTO THE MAKE SURE OUR MONEY WON'T BE THAT MAKES SENSE TO ME. I JUST ABILITY YEAH, I THINK THAT'S, THAT'S A GOOD IDEA. AND I WAS ABLE TO, UH, AND I, AFTER A FULL YEAR'S REVIEW, WE JUST STARTED THIS WITHIN A FEW MONTHS AND I'VE ALREADY REALIZED I'M ABLE TO CUT 2000 OUT OF THAT. UH, SO YOU CAN SEE HISTORICALLY THERE'S BEEN CONSIDERABLE USAGE VERSUS WHAT'S BEEN USED NOW. THAT'S JUST MORE THAN 67. SO WHERE ARE YOU ON THAT? UH, DOWN ON LINE? UH, 49 0 4. OKAY. AND UH, I WAS ABLE TO CUT 2000 OUT OF THAT AND THAT AFTER A GOOD YEAR'S REVIEW ON THE WAY WE'RE GOING, WE MIGHT THAT'S GOOD. THAT BENDING THAT SOME MORE. OKAY. OKAY. AND ALL IT IS IS JUST THE WAY WE GO ABOUT RANDY. YES MA'AM. PARDON ME? YOU SAID CUT 1600 AND THEN YOU PUT 2000. WHICH DO YOU WANT IT TO BE? 'CAUSE IT'S LOOKING LIKE YOU'RE TELLING ME. WELL, 1,630. NO, WHAT I, I REQUESTING IS TO LEAVE 2000. THAT'S WHAT I WANTED TO MAKE SURE. THANK YOU. I'M SORRY. NO PROBLEM. AND YOU GOT YOUR THOUSAND DOLLARS ON THE TOOLS? YES, SIR. OKAY. ALRIGHT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON PUBLIC WORKS BUDGET? NO. WHAT'S THE NEXT PAGE? JUST A LINE DESCRIPTION. THE NEXT ONE IS, UH, 5 21 5 21 BUDGET. AND UH, YOU HAVE COPIES OF, UH, THAT AND, UH, YOUR OFFICERS, THE FIRES, YOU AND THE OTHER TWO GUYS. YOU DON'T HAVE ANYBODY THAT'S ELIGIBLE FOR PROFICIENCY PAY? NO, SIR. I HAVE ACTUALLY FIVE PERSONNEL UNDER THE, UH, FIRE MARSH'S OFFICE. TWO OF THEM IN THE, THE PART-TIME AND NO ONE IS ELIGIBLE. MYSELF, CHAD, OR JOHN ARE ELIGIBLE FOR THE, UH, THERE'S NO MERIT RAISES AND THE PROFICIENCY PAID. WE WELL PART TIME WE WOULDN'T DO THAT. WE GOT GETTING PROFICIENCY. THAT WAS WHAT THAT FIRE MARSHAL PRIOR WAS GETTING ON. WE'LL GET THAT CORRECTED. YEAH, THAT'LL NEED TO BE CUT. THAT'LL BE $3,600 RIGHT OFF THE BAT. THAT'S COMING OUTTA ENTIRE, WELL IT'S SHOWING ALL THREE, DON'T YOU? THAT WAS AN ADDITIONAL SUPPLEMENT COMING OUT OF THE FIRE FUND IN Y'ALL FOR YEAH, THAT'S, THAT'S ANOTHER LINE ITEM. OKAY. WELL, IT, I MEAN IT'S UNDER PROFICIENCY PROBLEM, SO RIGHT. THAT'S THE ONLY, ONLY WAY, ONLY EXTRA COLUMN I HAD TO PUT IT IN THERE. BUT LINE 1204 WILL BE ELIMINATED THEN. YES, SIR. OKAY. WE MAY HAVE TO READ YOU OUT HERE. CHAD HAS BEEN WITH THE COUNTY QUITE A WHILE AND HE HAD, I THINK IT WAS, THEY CALLED IT MERIT BRACES BACK WHEN THEY HAD THOSE. YES. HE HAD 600. YEAH. AND THAT WOULD BE THE ONLY THING, UH, NONE OF US ARE NONE. THE OTHER OFFICERS HAVE THE, UH, THE MERIT RATINGS AND ELIGIBLE FOR THE PROFICIENCY. [01:25:04] YOU ARE ON DUTY THOUGH. YES, SIR. AND ON YOUR AMMUNITION, UH, YOUR QUALIFICATIONS, YOU GUYS HAVE TO MAKE THE SAME HISTORICALLY WHERE THERE, THERE'S BEEN MONIES IN MY OPINION IN THE PAST THAT JUST WERE NOT, UH, WASN'T SMART THE WAY MONIES WERE BEING MOVED AROUND CERTAIN ACCOUNTS. UH, I'M A GOOD BELIEVER IN ACCOUNTABILITY AND BARRING FROM A FIRE CODE OR, OR EVEN IN SOME CASES, UH, CHAD AND MYSELF, WE'VE ACTUALLY PURCHASED OUR OWN AMMUNITION IN A FEW YEARS AND THAT GOES TO MEET THE QUALIFICATIONS FOR JUST ONCE A YEAR. AND I THIS YOU, YOU DEPEND ON AN OFFICER ONE DAY 365 AND PULL THAT TRIGGER AND BE, BE GOOD OR HOPING IT'S GONNA BE GOOD WHEN THAT TIME COMES. THAT'S JUST, TO ME, THAT'S JUST UN THOUGHT OF. UH, I BELIEVE WE SHOULD AT LEAST TWICE A YEAR TO GO AROUND. SO THAT WOULD BE YOU AND THE TWO FIRE MARSHALS, THE DEPUTIES PLUS THE ENVIRONMENTAL TASK? NO, SO THE ENVIRONMENTAL, I'M KEEPING THEM SEPARATE. OKAY. THEY'RE ON ANOTHER BUDGET. THEY'RE ON ANOTHER BUDGET AMMUNITION. WE'VE NEVER HAD AN AMMUNITION ABOUT TWO 50 PER OFFICER TO BUY THEM TWO YEARS FALLBACK. THAT'S THE DUTY SIDE, UH, SHOTGUN. AND WE, AND ALSO I OFF DUTY CASE, IF YOU'RE GONNA CARRY ONE OFF DUTY, QUALIFY WITH THAT. SO THIS IS GONNA COVER PART A COUPLE OF PART-TIME GUYS TOO? YES, SIR. THEY HAVE TO QUALIFY AS WELL. OFFICER. THAT WILL COVER ALL FIVE OFFICERS. OKAY. ANYBODY THAT THAT'LL . YEAH. YEAH. OKAY. KAREN, YOU GOT THAT? YES SIR. PARTS AND REPAIRS, UH, WE'RE NOT, WE'RE DOING PRETTY GOOD ON THAT, BUT IN YEARS PAST YOU WERE, WELL IT'S, IT IS GOING TO BE VERY NEAR THAT VERY MARK. I JUST GOT CHECKS, THE LOUD SHOT YESTERDAY, APRIL, YESTERDAY, AND IT WAS NINE SIX OUT ON THAT TRUCK. UH, THE TRUCK THAT I WAS IN PRIOR TO THE ONE I'M IN OUT, WE'RE TRYING TO HOLD A VEHICLE IN CASE SOMEBODY GOES DOWN. WE'VE GOT SOMETHING TO GO INTO THAT READY TO GO AT THAT TIME. IF YOU'RE EXTREMELY CAREFUL, WE CAN, ON A DAILY BASIS, WE CAN CHECK THE WATER LEVEL AND DRIVE IT. IT RUNS FINE. BUT THAT PARTICULAR YEAR MODEL HAS A PLASTIC INTAKE MANIFOLD. I'VE NEVER SEEN A PLASTIC INTAKE MANIFOLD, BUT IT DOES ON THE FORWARDS AND IT'S GOT CRACK. SO IT'S, IT'S WATER. YES SIR. WHAT, WHAT YEAR IS IT? IT'S A, UH, YOU LEARN ABOUT YOUR 2004. WHY DON'T YOU REPLACE IT? I I'M SORRY. YOU GOING REPLACE OR YOU GONNA LEAVE REPAIR? WELL, I PLAN ON REPAIRING IT. OKAY. AND I'VE ALREADY GOT, I JUST RECEIVED MY BID YET. I'VE GOT TWO QUOTES. THE FORD HOUSE WANTED, UH, $1,200 AND, UH, THE S AND S AUTOMOTIVE PUT DOWN ON THE HIGHWAY, THEY'RE GONNA DO IT FOR ABOUT 900. OKAY. HOW MANY MILES IT GOT ON JUST OFF TOP OF HEAD. ALL YOU'VE, UH, REALLY, UH, 2013 WE SPENT ABOUT 13. ONE, UH, 14, 12 7. THIS YEAR WE BUDGETED 13. AND YOU'RE ONLY SPENT RIGHT AT 4,000? YEAH. UH, MAIN REASON FOR THAT IS I'M PRIMARILY IN THE OFFICE BOTH TODAY. YEAH. I'M NOT OUT IN THE FIELD MUCH AND, UH, CHAD AND JOHN ARE BOTH KIND OF TEAMING UP ON SOME OF THE, THE LARGER INSPECTIONS THAT WE DO THAT [01:30:01] REQUIRE, YOU KNOW, RATHER THAN TAKE TWO VEHICLES OUT, I'M JUST TELLING THEM I JUST TRY TO SAVE A LITTLE MONEY. TAKE ONE. YEAH. IF A CALL DOES COME IN, I'M THERE IN THE OFFICE, I CAN RESPOND. UH, AND IT'S GETTING TO BE THAT TIME OF YEAR THAT WE'RE PUTTING DOWN SPLIT AND GOING GRASS SEASON FUEL CONSUMPTION WILL DEVELOP THE NEXT FEW MONTHS. DO YOU THINK WE COULD MAYBE DROP THAT A LITTLE BIT? UH, YEAH, IT IS POSSIBLE. UH, LOOKING AT WHAT WE'RE DOING RIGHT NOW, UH, MAYBE ABOUT 10 30, 7500 10 WOULD BE CLOSE BECAUSE WE'RE FIXING TO GET INTO THAT BUSY TIME OF WE HAVE TO NONSTOP AND PLUS WE HAVE THE FIREWORKS, UH, STANDS THAT WE HAVE TO DO THE INSPECTIONS ON BEFORE THEY OPEN AND THEN WE HAVE TO DO SPOT CHECKS ON THEM FOR, PRIMARILY FOR CIVILIAN VIOLATIONS DURING THE 11,000. WE YEAH, WE MIGHT ACCOMPLISH THAT. OKAY. AND IF SOMETHING HAPPENS BASED ON WHAT WE'RE GOING SO FAR. YEAH. AND GAS FUEL PRICES LOT TO DO. YOU'RE USING THE FUEL MAN, EVERYBODY'S BEEN SAVING US LOTS OF MONEY. LOOKS LIKE IT. LOOKING AT FUEL BUDGET. THE PRICE OF FUEL. YEAH. FUEL'S COME DOWN TOO. DOES CARD GIVE US A DISCOUNT? I MEAN, DOES IT GIVE, GIVE US A, A DISCOUNT ON WELL IT CUTS THE COST DOWN SO LOW EXXON STATIONS DROP IN USING IT BECAUSE THERE'S NO PROFIT IN YEAH. ISN'T THAT RIGHT JACK? I'M SORRY. THE FUEL MAN CARD. IT LOWERS THE PRICE SO LOW THAT A LOT OF THE EXXON STATIONS AREN'T TAKING IT ANYMORE BECAUSE THERE'S NO PROFIT IN THEY YOU'RE CORRECT. YES. YEAH. OKAY. THAT'S WHAT I'M HEARING. YEAH, WELL IT DOES LOWER THE CARD LOWERS LIKE WE DO ALMOST A BETTER DEAL THAN BUYING IT BULK. YEAH. UNLESS IT'S MORE EFFICIENT. IT'S A COST PLUS YOU MAY NOT GET THE PRICE OF THE PUMP. IT'S BASED ON A OPUS OR PRICE INDEX SERVICE, BUT IT'S COST PLUS KIND LIKE YOUR CREDIT CARD AND GIVING YOU 2% BACK ON USING THEIR CARD OR WHATEVER, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE THEY'RE COLLECTING FROM THEM. MINE, 47 31 UNIFORMS. YOU COULD SEE HISTORICALLY THAT, UH, THAT 1500 HAS BEEN RIGHT OUT OR OVER UTILIZED A FEW TIMES AND I'VE GOT MY, UH, MY RESERVE OFFICERS AND I'M TRYING TO KEEP IN A DECENT LOOKING UNIFORM. STOOD WEARING T-SHIRTS 1800. IS EVERYBODY OKAY WITH THAT? YEAH, I ON VIEWS, UH, WE NEVER HAD A LINE ITEM AND WE HAVE NOT BEEN MEMBERS OF ORGANIZATIONS THAT YOU'D LIKE FEEL THAT SO BENEFICIAL. OKAY, WELL LET'S EVERYBODY ALRIGHT. YEAH. ON THE BODY ARMOR AND PROTECTIVE GEAR, YOU HAD MENTIONED THIS ABOUT THE, UH, VEST AND THE, UH, SPRAY, UH, THAT'S 2,400, UH, THAT WE'VE NOT HAD IN THE PAST. UH, WE HAVE NOT HAD THAT LINE ITEM. UH, WE WERE ABLE TO SEVEN, ALMOST EIGHT YEARS AGO, WE ACQUIRED, UH, TWO VESTS FOR CHAD AND MYSELF OUT OF THE FIRE CODE. AND TO ME THAT WAS NOT THE BEST, YOU KNOW, USER ACCOUNTABILITY. IT, IT COULD BE QUESTIONED. UH, AND OUT OF THAT, AND PAM WORKING ON A GRANT FOR THIS, SHE HAS BEEN, HER AND I BOTH HAVE REALLY BEEN WORKING ON TRYING TO GET THIS. SO IF WE GET THE GRANT, WE MIGHT NOT HAVE TO SPEND THIS, WE'RE NOT GOING TO GET THE, THE STANDARD GRANT THAT MOST LOCALITIES GET. COFFEE COUNTY IS NO LONGER ELIGIBLE BECAUSE WE HIT THE HUNDRED THOUSAND. OKAY. ALRIGHT. HISTORICALLY WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO GET THAT THROUGH THE, UH, THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE, UH, VOTER VEST PROGRAM. RIGHT. I'M STILL CHECKING WITH SOME INSURANCE COMPANIES, SOME OTHER ENTITIES, BUT SO FAR NEITHER ONE OF US HAVE HAD ANY SUCCESS AND, UH, I I'M JUST REALLY CONCERNED THAT, YOU KNOW, MY GUYS, THE, UH, SO THIS WOULD BE FOR ALL THE THREE FULL-TIME AND THE TWO, SIR, IT'S, IT'S ACTUALLY COVERING ALL THE OFFICERS BECAUSE EVEN MY, EVEN MY PART-TIME GUYS, YOU KNOW, THEY GO OUT PEOPLE'S PROPERTY'S I THE TWO, IT'S THE 2,400 IS NOT GONNA BUY A NEW VEST FOR EVERYONE RIGHT NOW. UH, MY BEST, LIKE I SAY, IS OUTDATED. THE MANUFACTURER WARRANTY DROPS AFTER FIVE YEARS. THEY NO LONGER [01:35:01] A WARRANTY. HOW DO THEY GO BACK? PARDON? WHY DO THEY GO BAD BODY SWEAT AND SOMETHING LIKE DETERIORATE BREAKS, BREAKS DOWN THE PACK AND MATERIALS AND BODY SWEAT. SO FIVE YEARS IS, I, I'VE NOT SEEN ANY MANUFACTURE. UH, THE NIJ, THE NATIONAL INSTITUTE FOR JUSTICE, THEY'RE THE ONES THAT SET THE STANDARDS YEAH. FOR BODY ARMOR AND UH, I INTEND ON GOING WITH THE SAME TYPE THAT THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT'S GONNA USING AND, UH, ABOUT $795 PER UNIT THAT GETTING LETTER FROM KW THAT'S WHAT THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT BEEN SPENDING. THAT'S PER A LEVEL TWO MISSED OR WHAT WOULD THAT STOP? IT STOPPED A, UH, STOP NINE MILLIMETERS, 40 CALIBER AND THREE FEET SET. IT WOULD NOT STOP A RIFLE RIFLE GROUND, BUT SLOW IT DOWN I GUESS. BUT IF YOU GET INTO THE RIFLE GROUND, IT GETS VERY EXPENSIVE. YOU GET IN LEVEL THREE AND FOUR VESTS AND PLUS YOU HAVE TO CONSIDER THE SAFETY OF THE OFFICER FROM A, FROM A HEAT RELATED INJURY. ALSO, IF WE'RE GONNA GET, THERE'S GONNA BE A POLICY. IS EVERYBODY OKAY WITH THIS THEN? AND MAYBE WE CAN FIND A GRANT STILL. WE'LL KEEP LOOKING IF WE GET A GRANT OH YEAH, WE, YEAH, WE WANT THAT. I'M UNDER, I'M REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT THAT. OKAY. COUNTY IS NOT GONNA USE THEM. BE WHAT? I DON'T KNOW IF THEY HAVE A SHARE. THEY MAY HAVE A SHARE PROGRAM. I DUNNO. THERE MIGHT BE ANOTHER COUNTY'S NOT USING SHARE PROGRAM. YEAH, THERE ARE CERTAIN STIPULATIONS UNDER THAT CHAIR DEPARTMENT JUSTICE PROGRAM. IT'S A 50 50 BILL. WELL, THERE ARE CERTAIN REQUIREMENTS FAR USE. YOU HAVE TO HAVE A WRITTEN POLICY AND USAGE ATTORNEY. WHAT ABOUT THE BODY CAMERAS? WE HAVE, I WAS ABLE TO PURCHASE THOSE THIS YEAR. THAT WAS TO ME VERY IMPORTANT. ESPECIALLY THROUGH THE UH, FIRE MARSHALL PUMP. YES, SIR. YEAH. ALL OF MY OFFICERS NOW HAVE THE UH, OKAY AND THEN THE MISCELLANEOUS, THAT'S JUST FOR, YOU NEVER HAVE A MISCELLANEOUS, I MEAN IF IT WAS A, A PLAQUE OR A PAIR OF GLOVES OR YOU'RE OUT SOMEWHERE AND JUST NEEDED SOMETHING. YEAH, I FIGURED EVEN IF AN OFFICER GOT IT AND JUST DO A REIMBURSEMENT, IT WOULD JUST BE EASIER COMING OUTTA, I TRY TO KEEP EVERYTHING UNDER A LINE UP. RIGHT. BUT THAT WOULD JUST BE YOUR TOTAL BUDGET WILL PROBABLY ACTUALLY DECREASED WITH THE OTHER CHANGES WE MADE ON THE UH, YES SIR. EFFICIENCY AS WASH, I STILL GOT ONE. I'M NOT CLEAR ON, ON YOUR SALARY. ON THE SALARY SHEET. IT'S SHOWING 50 WITH THE 5,000 PROFICIENCY OR THAT COMES OUT, THE 5,000 COMES OUTTA THE FIRE CODE FUND. AND THEN ON THIS SHEET HERE, IT'S SHOWING 45. SO 45 PLUS FIVE OR IS IT EQUAL PLUS FIVE? WHAT, WHICH ONE ARE YOU LOOKING AT? I'M LOOKING AT THE BIG BUDGET SHEET RIGHT HERE. GOT EVERYBODY, EVERY DEPARTMENT SALARY, UHHUH. AND THEN I'M LOOKING AT HIS BUDGET RIGHT HERE AND 45 SALARY BUDGET. AND THEN ON THE, THE PAY SHEET, IT'S SHOWING 50 PLUS 5,000 COMING OUT FIRE CODE FUND. SO IS IT 45 PLUS FIVE OR 50 PLUS FIVE? IT SHOULD BE 50 PLUS FIVE FOR, SO THIS WRONG, THIS, THIS IS WRONG. THIS IS WRONG HERE. THIS IS SUPPOSED TO BE 50 50. YEAH, I'VE BEEN THERE FOR, FOR 50 YEARS SINCE I CAME HERE. MM-HMM. THAT'S GONNA MAKE SOME DIFFERENCE IN THE COUNTY. WELL IT WILL PROFICIENCY GONNA BE PROFICIENT . SO THAT, THAT NEED TO BE, WE ARE ADDRESS LONGEVITY I TO RETAIN THE PEOPLE LONGEVITY. THERE'S, THERE'S BEEN A BIG ISSUE WITH REJECTION. SURE. ARE WE READY? YES, MA'AM. DID YOU JUST TAKE THE, THE SHEET KW DID FOR YOU AND THEN YOU PUT YOUR NUMBERS IN? YES MA'AM. OKAY. THAT'S WHERE THE PROBLEM WAS BECAUSE YOU KNEW HE WAS AT 50, SO HE TOOK 45 AND FIVE TO MAKE IT TO 50. THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED. OKAY. OKAY. NOW THE ENVIRONMENTAL, UH, OFFICER BUDGET [01:40:01] 5 22. AND AGAIN, THE ONLY THING THAT I'VE, I'VE DONE THERE AGAIN FOR THEM WOULD BE, UH, TO BOOK THROUGH VEST. UH, THEY, WHEN THEY CAME OVER TO THE, FROM THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT, UH, IF THEY EVER HAD A VEST ISSUED TO THEM, THAT WOULD'VE STAYED WITH THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT'S DEPARTMENT AS FAR AND UH, THEY HAVE NOT. AND AGAIN, THEY'RE THE DIGGING AROUND IN THE TRASH OR SNOOPING AROUND PEOPLE'S PROPERTY AND EVERYTHING AND THEY ALSO ASSIST, YOU KNOW, ANY OF THE, WHEN YOU, ANY TYPE OF A SITUATION GOING ON. WELL WE ALL ASSIST SHERIFF'S OWNERSHIP COUNSEL'S OFFICE HAVE A ROBBERY OR MURDER THAT, THAT'S BEEN ONE OF MY EXTREME BIGGEST CONCERNS IS NOT BEEN ABLE TO NOT HAD MONEY TO PUT MY VAN IN VEST. IS THAT TWO GUYS ON THE SIDE? IS THAT TWO PEOPLE UP THERE IN THE YES SIR. THERE'S 2, 2, 2 OFFICERS IN THAT. THEY'VE BEEN WITH US QUITE A WHILE I THINK TOO. OH YEAH. OKAY. YOU GOT PARTS IN REPAIRS? WELL, UH, WELL, I MEAN, GOT GOOD CARS. THEY'RE PRETTY DECENT VEHICLES. THEY WERE BOTH OBTAINED THROUGH GRANTS AND UH, THEY TAKE PRETTY GOOD CARE OF THEM. UH, SO FAR WE'VE NOT HAD ANY BIG ISSUES BUT, AND AGAIN, TWO SETS OF TIRES AND NEARLY WHITE BUDGET OUT AND I'M ABOUT TO GET READY FOR THAT. HISTORICALLY, IT SEEMS LIKE THE FIRE MARSHAL'S OFFICE AND ENVIRONMENTAL AND EVERYTHING, IT'S ALWAYS STORED END THE BUDGET HERE. THAT'S WHEN YOU GET YOUR TIRES FIXING FOR YOUR BATTERY. THAT ANOTHER, I DUNNO PERSONALLY HOW YOU CAN, HOW YOU PUT PARTS OF REPAIR DOWN, UH, SAY WELL I WANT TO USE A SET OF TIRES, BUT, YOU KNOW, TRANSMISSION OR MOTOR THERE JUST, IT DOESN'T EVEN, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT'S THING WAY OUT CONTROL. TO ME THAT LOOKS LIKE IT'S PRETTY MUCH STANDARD, YOU KNOW, ACROSS THE BOARD PER VEHICLE. NO, I KNOW. I'M JUST SAYING IT'S JUST NOT A REASONABLE, IT'S NOT, THERE'S NO, THERE'S NO THE GAS OIL THERE TOO. WE GAS OIL. UH, I HAVE NO IDEA WHY THAT NUMBER IS THAT LOW ON HERE UNLESS IT'S FUEL PRICES BECAUSE THOSE GUYS ARE ACTUALLY OUT MORE NOW THAN THEY WERE. UH, WE, WE'VE GOT AN INCREDIBLE NUMBER OF CASES THAT THEY, I'LL BE GLAD TO PROVIDE Y'ALL WITH THERE. I'M HAVING TO BRING YOU A BASICALLY A, A A SHEET SHEET, YOU KNOW, THAT'D BE HELPFUL INFORMATION FOR ALL OF US. YOU CAN TYPE UPDATE ANCE AND CITATION. AND WHILE WE'RE DOING RIGHT NOW, JUST GIVE AN IDEA, DO WHEN WE DO THIS WORKSHOP, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GONNA DO ON THE PUBLIC USE THING, THAT WOULD BE A GOOD TIME TO SURE. WOULD BE GLAD TO. DO YOU THINK WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO GO IN THERE AND AND CUT THAT BACK, UH, SOME THEN, UH, TO, UH, HELP OFFSET THE BODY ARMOR AND SURE. I I'M TRYING, I THINK A LOT OF THAT HAS TO DO WITH THE YEAH. YEAH. WE'RE JUST, AND IF SOMETHING HAPPENS TO EIGHT, 8,000 GIVES YOU 3,900 ON WHAT WE GONNA DO. I DON'T THINK. ALRIGHT. UH, MINE ITEM IS 43 0 2 AND 43 0 5. BOTH GO TOGETHER AS FAR AS YOU KNOW, AGAIN, TO HELP WITH ACCOUNTABILITY WHERE THE MONEY GOES. YEAH. UH, I'VE HAD OVER EXPENDITURES ON THE, UH, MILES, MILLS OF LODGING SIDE BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE YOUR HOTEL BILLS, TYPICALLY YOUR HOTEL BILLS FOR A TWO OR THREE OR FOUR NIGHT ARE GOING TO OUTWEIGH THE TUITION OF THE COURTS ITSELF. SO I WANTED JUST TO PULL 500 OUTTA ONE AND PUT IT IN THE OTHER AS A WASH. JUST, YEAH, JUST A WASH. JUST TO KIND OF HELP BALANCE THAT OUT A LITTLE BIT. AND THEN WE DISCUSSED THE BODY. THE ONLY OTHER ITEM WAS THAT, UH, INVESTIGATIVE SEARCH THAT TLO THAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT EARLIER. YEAH. AND UH, BASED UPON THE DATA THAT I HAVE SO FAR, THE USAGE THAT WE'RE DOING, I'M LOOKING AT AROUND 50 TO 55 A MONTH AVERAGE. YES. MAYBE THAT SHOULD BE 600. POSSIBLY TRY TO BE SIX. THAT SHOULD BE DO 600 THAT WAY. AND UH, THAT WOULD BE IT. YOU GET THAT AS FAR AS THE TOOLS, NEW EQUIPMENT. YES SIR. I JUST, UH, PURCHASED A FEW BATTERIES. THEY HAVE THE, UH, [01:45:01] WE CALL THE STEAL CAMERAS WHEN SOME PEOPLE TRASH WE GET OVER WITH A GRANT TOO OR SOMETHING. UH, SOME OF 'EM WERE PURCHASED AT GRANT, SOME WERE NOT. AND WHAT DO YOU DO FOR THOSE? I MEAN WE'RE, WE DON'T GET WAY TOO MUCH, BUT YEAH, WE ACTUALLY SHARE THAT PROGRAM. THE, UH, SHERIFF'S OFFICE HAS USED THEM BEFORE THE FIRE MARSHAL OFFICE IS USING 'EM. BUT WE OFFERED UP TO THE COUNCIL ANYTIME SOMEBODY NEEDS TO DO SURVEILLANCE, WE HAVE SOME THAT ARE IN HOUSING. THEY'RE, UH, THEY'RE CAMOUFLAGE AND YOU CAN PLACE THEM UP AND THEY LOOK LIKE A LITTLE BIRD NEST TYPE DEAL, LIKE HOUSE OR SOMETHING. WELL, I, I'VE GOT A PLACE OVER THERE CLOSE TO YOUR PRECINCT THAT THERE'S PROBABLY ENOUGH TRASH TO FILL IN A ROLL OFF ROLL THE TIMES THAT WE'LL GO OUT WHEN WE CLEAN THAT UP, BE WITH YOU AND TRY TO SCHEDULE IT WHERE WE CAN GET ONE OF THOSE ONE THERE ONE. YEAH. IT'S JUST A DUMP GROUND. IT IS A FIELD ROAD. NOBODY LIVES ON IT. IT STARTS OUT ROAD, IT TURNS INTO DIRT AND BOY, HAVE THEY TRIED TO CHECK NAMES OR ANYTHING? NO, I DON'T. I, I TELL 'EM ABOUT IT, BUT I DON'T DUNNO. THEY THROUGH IT, BUT IT DOESN'T HELP FURNITURE AND YOU KNOW, IT'S RIGHT BY MY PLACE. IT'S PRETTY HARD TO FIND A NAME, WHOLE REFRIGERATOR, SOMEBODY DOING THAT. YOU KNOW, I'M SURE OUR GUYS PROBABLY, THEY PROBABLY LOOK BUT I JUST A FEW MINUTES. YOU CAN ONLY DO SO MUCH. THEY DID. THEY'RE OBVIOUSLY THEY WELL THAT, THAT'S WHY I WANT TO SEE THAT, YOU KNOW, BUT IT'S JUST WHEN YOU'RE INUNDATED THAT AND I PUT 'EM UP ON 2 43, 3 54 THAT CATCH THESE GUYS MUD. BUT, UH, WE ALSO UTILIZE THE 12 VOLT AUTOMOTIVE BATTERIES BECAUSE IT IS SUCH A LONG TERM AND, UH, I'M ABOUT TO HAVE TO REPLACE SEVERAL OF MY BATTERIES JUST ABOUT. WELL IS THAT, UM, THAT ENOUGH MONEY? YEAH. YEAH. YOU WANT KEEP IT AT THREE? WE'VE ONLY RIGHT AT TWO SO FAR. MAYBE 25. 25. WELL, YOU THREE OR WE'VE ONLY, WE'VE ONLY SPENT 200 SO FAR. I'M ABOUT TO HAVE TO REPLACE THE BATTERIES. UH, AND THERE'S SOME OTHER EQUIPMENT THAT THEY HAVE, BUT I WAS JUST TRYING TO HELP OUT WITH THE BUDGET. I DON'T WANT, DEFINITELY DON'T WANNA HURT MYSELF, BUT, UH, IF Y'ALL COMFORTABLE WITH THREE, WE'LL GO ONE MORE YEARS. LET US BORROW THE EQUIPMENT, OPERATE THE FUEL. ALRIGHT. ANYBODY, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THE, UH, UNIFORMS? $1,200? IS THAT THE CLEANING OR DO THEY BUY THAT MANY UNIFORMS? EVERY YEAR? THE UNIFORMS IS GETTING THE, THE PANTS, UH, SHIRTS. THAT'S WHERE THE BADGE IS. THE NAME TAGS, THE BOOTS, I MEAN EVERY YEAR. JACKETS, WE DON'T BUY JACKETS, YOU KNOW, EVERY YEAR. BUT BOOTS THAT COUNTY. THE LAUNDRY SERVICE. YES. WHAT THAT IS, THAT'S NOT BAD. I YOUR GUYS GET IN SOME STUFF. YEAH, AND WELL ACTUALLY AS OF THIS MORNING WE'RE TRYING TO, ANOTHER EFFORT I'VE HAD SHOOTING OUT THE BIDS JUST TO GO WITH LIKE IT'S A T-SHIRT STILL SCREEN. YEAH. AND WHEN THEY'RE GOING TO GET OUT AND HAVE TO LITERALLY GET DOWN AND CRAWL AND GET THROUGH THAT STUFF, TAKE YOUR OUTER SHIRT OFF. BUT I'LL STILL HAVE THEM. I'LL HAVE POLICE OR SOMETHING ACROSS THE BACK. IS 1200 ENOUGH ABOUT TEACHER? IT'S 1200 ENOUGH BECAUSE YOU'RE AT 700 NOW. YEAH, I KNOW. THAT'S SEVEN MONTHS. DIDN'T, I DIDN'T REALLY WANT TO GO UP ON EVERYTHING IN THE WORLD, BUT DID NINE 90 LAST YEAR. FIRST YEAR. WELL THAT WAS FOR THE WHOLE YEAR. AND THIS BUDGET IS FOR, UM, SEVEN MONTHS INTO THE BUDGET. SO THAT'S A HUNDRED DOLLARS. UM, HUNDRED HUNDRED. YEAH. THEY GOT 1200 PLUS 12. IT BE FOUR OVER, IT KEEPS GOING 12. THOSE, THOSE ARE ALL ALWAYS REAL, REAL CLOSE. CLOSE. PRETTY GOOD. YOU WANNA PUT 1300 IN THERE JUST TO MAKE SURE YOU RUN? SURE. I MEAN DOES THAT, THAT FAR REASONABLE THAT WAY. HAVE LINE ITEM 20, WHAT DO YOU WANT TO PUT IT AS? I WOULD SAY 1300 IF IT CONTINUES FOR, DON'T YOU SEE IT [01:50:01] COMING DOWN? ALRIGHT, MOVING ON OVER TO BUDGET 6 49. THAT IS, OR WHAT'S ACCOUNT NUMBER? 6 49 OR OH FOUR NINE OR 6 49. FIRE CODE YOU MIGHT TELL US. SO EVERYBODY KIND OF UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT IS. THAT THE MONEY THAT WE ACQUIRED YOUR, UH, FOR THE PERMITS, ALL THE MONEY RECEIVED FOR PERMIT THE FIRE CODE, UH, PER STATE LAW, THAT MONEY MUST BE EARMARKED AND SET ASIDE FOR THE USE OF THE, THE TERMINOLOGY THEY USE IS FOR THE ADMINISTRATION AND ENFORCEMENT OF THE FIRE CODE. THAT'S WHAT THOSE MONIES ARE USED FOR. UH, SO THERE IS A, A CERTAIN AMOUNT, YOU KNOW, THE MONEY BASICALLY IT'S KINDA LIKE YOU GROW THE BRIDGE, IT STAYS IN THERE AND IT ACCUMULATES OR IN SOME CASES THERE MAY BE SOME YEARS THAT THERE'S A, A MUCH MORE STREAMING. BUT THAT'S WHY YOU SEE THE, THE DOLLAR AMOUNTS THAT ARE COMING OUT OTHER THAN MY CONTRACT LABOR OR, OR MY EXTRA HELP. MM-HMM . EVERYTHING ELSE IS, IT HAS TO BE SPECIFIC, YOU KNOW, UH, THAT EQUIPMENT THAT WE BUY HAS TO BE SPECIFICALLY FOR FIRE CODE ENFORCEMENT. RIGHT. NOT FOR INVESTIGATIONS OR, YOU KNOW, CITATIONS OR, YOU KNOW, OUR FELONY CASES OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. SO YOU'RE NOT GONNA SEE THAT THOSE NUMBERS REALLY JUMP OUT. WE JUST HAVE TO KIND OF PUT SOME NUMBERS OUT HERE AND WE'LL GET NINE ITEMS. YOUR EXTRA HELP, IS THAT THE SAME GUYS THAT, THAT YOU PAY OUT OF THAT, THAT YOU PAID ON THE SIDE OR IT DEPENDS UPON WHAT THEY'RE DOING. AND I'LL, I'LL MIX EACH TIME I SUBMIT MY, MY SHEETS TO KW, UH, MANY TIMES IT'LL COME OUT OF TWO, TWO LINE ITEMS TO GET THEIR PAYCHECK. IF THEY ARE GOING OUT AND DOING LIKE GOSPEL ATION, THAT'S AN ONGOING PROJECT. I HAVE ONE OFFICER THAT'S ASSIGNED TO THAT JUST BECAUSE OF THE SHEER SIDE. YES SIR. THERE'S, THERE'S WEEKLY INSPECTIONS THAT HAVE TO BE DONE ON THAT THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE PROCESS. SO WHEN HE PERFORMS DUTIES FOR THAT, THAT COMES OUT OF THE BARCODE. HIS, HIS PAY COMES OUT OF THAT. AND WHEN HE'S DOING AN ON CALL FOR A NIGHT OR A WEEKEND OR SOMETHING AND MAKES AN INVESTIGATION THAT COMES OUT OF THE FIRE CUT, UH, EXCUSE ME, OUTTA THE, UH, FIRE MARSHALS FUND, THE, UH, CONTRACT LABOR THAT YOU SEE. WE'VE UTILIZED QUITE A BIT OF THAT THIS YEAR. UH, FORTUNATELY THAT MONEY COMES BACK TO IT. UH, TYPICALLY ON THE CONTRACT LABOR IS WHEN I HAVE A, A SPECIAL ASSIGNMENT, UH, A SPRINKLER SYSTEM GOES DOWN A FACILITY THAT THEY WANT TO KEEP THE PEOPLE THERE WHERE YOU HAVE TO HAVE AN OPERATED SPRINKLER SYSTEM OR YOU HAVE TO HAVE A AUTHORIZED PERSONNEL DEDICATED THERE FOR FIRE WATCH EXACTLY LIKE YOU DID WITH THE APARTMENTS. YES SIR. IT'S EXACTLY WHAT WE DID FOR THE APARTMENTS. WE ARE CURRENTLY DOING IT RIGHT NOW FOR A, UH, FOR LACK OF BETTER WORD, YOU KNOW, I MEAN A HALFWAY HOUSE, I MEAN WE'LL CALL IT RESIDENTIAL FACILITY OVER ON COUNTY ROAD 41 0 2. AND, UH, THEY HAD VERY SIMILAR, THEIR SPRINKLER SYSTEM BUSTED ON THEM BECAUSE THEY WEREN'T MAINTAINING IT IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE CODE. AND UH, AND SO THOSE, THOSE ENTITIES REIMBURSES WHAT WE'RE DOING IS I HAVE TO HIRE A QUALIFIED PERSONNEL AND THAT RATE IS OF A HIGHER RATE. YOU YES, BUT THEY REIMBURSED US FOR THAT. WE INVOICES TO THE COMPANIES AND SO FAR WE'VE NOT HAD ANY DENIAL OF PAYMENT AND WE'RE WE'RE MORE THAN RECOVER. AND UH, LIKE THE , UH, THAT THEY HAD OVER AT FOUR, UH, UH, WHAT WAS THAT CALLED? I THINK Y'ALL HAVE BEEN END THIS YEAR. YES SIR. FESTIVAL IT WAS, WE HAVE OUT, THAT'S A PRETTY BIG DEAL. UH, WHAT'S THE NAME OF IT? I THINK MIGHT ONE CHRISTMAS? NO, THIS IS, UH, THIS IS A LIKE A RACE DEAL. A OR A STRONG OH CROSS, ISN'T IT? YEAH. A STRONG MAN DEAL OR OH, THAT WHAT COMBINE? NO, COMBINE WE OUT. YEAH. UH, HISTORICALLY THEY'VE HAD SOME OVER, UH, OVER COUSIN'S . YEAH. YEAH. UH, THEY DIDN'T HAVE THAT THIS PAST YEAR. THEY DIDN'T THEY BEEN EASY THIS YEAR, WASN'T IT? WELL, THEY DIDN'T COME TO US. THEY HAD IT. THAT WAS, THEY HAD, THAT'S ONE OF THOSE SITUATIONS TO WHERE THEY DIDN'T, APPARENTLY DIDN'T QUALIFY BY LAW TO GET THE IAN TO COUNTY JUDGE. THE NUMBERS THAT THEY DELIVERED TO US AND THE INFORMATION THEY PROVIDED US DIDN'T REALLY QUALIFY FOR THE SPECIAL EVENT CRITERIA THAT WE HAVE. DO I HAVE SUSPICIONS, SIR? BUT WE HAVE TO DEDICATE THE MEN OUT THERE TO, TO INVESTIGATE THAT AND FIND OUT ALSO. AND IT'S [01:55:01] JUST, IT IS A TIME VERSUS MANPOWER SITUATION. SO WHAT HAPPENS IN A CASE LIKE THIS WHERE THEY ACTUALLY HAD IT, BUT WE WEREN'T NOTIFIED TO GET A PERMIT? WHAT HAPPENED? NOTHING. YOU HAD TO MAKE A CASE. WE, WE HAVE SO MANY PEOPLE WEEKEND, SO I'VE GOT TO PARTY I'M SURE. RESPONSIBILITY NOW THE ONE IN COMBINE, THEY'VE BEEN VERY GOOD ABOUT WORKING. LAST YEAR WAS A LITTLE BIT OF A SNAG ON THE TIMELINE. YEAH. THEY GOT, BUT THEY CAME THROUGH AND UH, I'M VERY IMPRESSED WITH IT'S PRETTY PROFESSIONAL RUN FOR YOU. THEY'RE VERY, VERY MUCH ON ACCOUNTABILITY AND SAFETY THERE. UH, GOOD ACTION PLAN IN PLACE. WE STILL REQUIRE AN OFFICER OUT THERE DURING THAT WE COULD, WE COULD PROBABLY GET FUND A WHOLE LOT OF THIS. BASICALLY WE JUST TAP A MUD RUN COUNTY. WHICH COUNTY ROADS DO YOU WANT TO USE? WE COULD USE THAT ONE WHERE ALL THE TRASH IS ON . PRIMARILY WE TRY TO PURCHASE OUR VEHICLES. I DON'T BUDGET FOR THAT. WELL, I DON'T REALLY HAVE A LINE ITEM FOR THAT. AND TO BE QUITE HONEST WITH YOU, MY FIRST YEAR INTO THIS AND I, I'VE KIND OF LEARNED, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT NEEDS TO BE A LINE ITEM SET ASIDE FOR WELL YOU DON'T PLAN ON BUS BUDGETING ANYTHING THIS YEAR FOR, TO REPLACING ANYTHING THIS YEAR? I DON'T THINK WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO THIS YEAR. I BELIEVE THE REPAIRS THAT WERE DONE ON RESERVES IS GONNA CARRY US THROUGH THE GEAR JUST FINE. NOW AFTER THAT WE'VE GOT SEVERAL VEHICLES THAT ARE LOOKING INTO GETTING INTO THAT AGE. YEAH. PLUS YOU DON'T WANNA HOLD ON TO ONE UNTIL YOU JUST DON'T GET ANYTHING FOR IT. RIGHT? WELL, I MEAN SOMETHING WE COULD PUT A PLACE ORDER IN THERE, BUT IF YOU'RE NOT GONNA DO IT, WE CAN JUST DO IT NEXT YEAR. I WOULD THINK. I, I DON'T SEE THAT THIS YEAR WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO DO ANY REPLACEMENT. WE'VE DONE PRETTY GOOD. WE GOT A GOOD MAINTENANCE PROGRAM AT TOP OF THAT. I GOT EVENTUALLY I GOT ONE QUESTION FROM KAREN ON THIS. WE GOT OUR ESTIMATED ENDING BALANCE FOR 15 AND 16 MM-HMM . WHAT IS OUR BEGINNING BALANCE? WHERE IS IT? WOULD, IS THAT THE ENDING BALANCE OF YEAH, THAT WOULD BE ON THE EXPENDITURE SIDE. YOU DON'T, YOU'RE NOT SEEING THE REVENUE SIDE IN IT. RIGHT. SO SHOULDN'T THAT BE UNDER LIKE 2014 ACTUAL, WHAT WOULD BE YOUR BEGINNING BALANCE FOR 2015 WHERE THE BLANK IS? WELL YEAH, WE WERE, WE ESTABLISHED THAT BUDDY BUDGET WITH 92,000. THAT'S WHAT HE HAD TO CARRY OVER. OKAY. FOR FROM 2014. OKAY. SO HE HASN'T SPENT OR REQUESTED TO USE ANY OF THAT AS OF FOUR 30. SO THAT WOULD BE A ZERO. IT'S JUST BLANK LIKE IT IS. AND WE'RE JUST CARRYING IT FORWARD TILL WE WORK ON THE REVENUE SIDE TO SEE WHAT IT WOULD BE. WE WILL LIKELY NEXT YEAR WE'LL GET INTO THAT BY VEHICLES. AND ALSO, UH, I PLAN, I INTEND ON APPROACHING THE COURT, UH, MOST LIKELY EITHER, POSSIBLY LATER ON THIS YEAR, BUT LOOKS LIKE WE'LL GO AHEAD NEXT YEAR ON, WE ARE CURRENTLY IN THE 2006, UH, ADDITION TO THE INTERNATIONAL PARK THAT, UH, THE ICC INTERNATIONAL COUN STRONGLY RECOMMENDS TO STAY WITHIN TWO CYCLES OF THAT. UH, THE MOST RECENT ADDITION OUT RIGHT NOW IS THE 2015. SO WE'RE ALREADY OUTSIDE OF THAT PARAMETER. UH, BECAUSE SHE COME UP TO THE 2009 OR 2012, IT'S REVISED EVERY THREE YEARS. OH, WHAT THOUSAND 12 ADDITION IS PROBABLY WHAT WE'LL GO TO IS WHAT I'LL RECOMMEND. I'M STILL CHECKING TO MAKE SURE IT'S NOT GONNA BE DETRIMENTAL TO THE COUNTY BECAUSE AS THOSE CODES CHANGE, SOMETIMES IT, IT CREATES PROBLEMS. SO YOU'LL HAVE TO REINSPECT EVERY FACILITY THAT YOU'RE REQUIRED TO INSPECT NOW? NO SIR. IT IS JUST, UH, IT'S THE STANDARD. IT'S, IT ESTABLISHES ALL THE CRITERIA AND THE GUIDELINES FOR INSTRUCTIONS LIKE ON FOR CONSTRUCTION DID FOR EACH REQUIREMENTS, WHEREAS THEY WERE REQUIRED TO HAVE SO MANY EXIT SIGNS AND CERTAIN TYPE OF CONSTRUCTION. SO THAT WILL BE ON NEW PROJECTS. THAT WILL BE ON NEW PROJECTS THAT HE WILL IN PAID 2000 16, 17 7. THAT DOESN'T BACK UP. IS THAT GONNA COST THE EXPENSE ON YOUR SIDE? YES, SIR. THE THE BOOKS, UH, GROSS US TO PURCHASE THE BOOKS IS GOING TO BE AROUND 1800 TO 2000. COULD THAT COME OUT OF THIS? IT COME OUT OF THIS EXCLUSIVELY. AND THEN, UH, I'M ALSO WORKING ON TRYING TO STREAMLINE OUR EFFORTS [02:00:01] A LITTLE BIT ON, UH, DOING OUR, OUR FORMS OUT THE FIELD INSTEAD OF HANDWRITING A LOT OF STUFF AND THEN COMING BACK, I'M LOOKING AT EITHER THE LAPTOPS OR THE TABLETS. WE'VE ALREADY DONE THAT ON THE SIDE AND ON INVESTIGATIONS. SO, UH, WHATEVER PROGRAMS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT WE HAVE TO GET, THEN I HAVE NO PROBLEMS AT ALL. THEY NOT BE OUT TWO CYCLES AND THEY'VE ALREADY GOT WHY WOULD YOU PICK 2012 AND IT JUST DONE IN 2015? I BE MANAGED HISTORICALLY. THERE'S ALWAYS A LITTLE FOLKS, YOU NEVER ONE, DO YOU RARELY SEE ANY, UH, MUNICIPAL GOVERNMENT OR COUNTY GOVERNMENT THAT WILL ADOPT THE MOST RECENT CODE BECAUSE THERE'S JUST SO MANY BUGS OUT THERE THAT, AND THERE'S, THERE'S SEVERAL AMENDMENTS THAT THEY'LL EVEN MAKE. TODD EVEN MAKES, UH, SEVERAL AMENDMENTS THROUGHOUT THE YEAR. OKAY. SO IT JUST STAY IN ONE BEHIND WOULD BE PAY TO STAY. UH, WE NEED, SO GO AHEAD MS. GO AHEAD TO FINISH ANSWERING YOUR QUESTION, COMMISSIONER, YOU TAKE THE, BE BEGIN YOUR BEGINNING BALANCE LIKE AT THE CLOSE OF 2014 MM-HMM . AND THEN YOU WOULD ADD THE CURRENT REVENUES AND SUBTRACT THE EXPENDITURES TO GET A NEW ESTIMATED ENDING BALANCE. RIGHT. BUT I DON'T HAVE THE REVENUE, SO. RIGHT. THAT'S WHY WE HAVEN'T INCLUDED THOSE YET AND THAT THAT'S PASSED ON THE PROJECT. SURE. TYPICALLY WHAT MAKES THAT NUMBER IS, SO IF YOU DON'T KNOW THAT, HOW, HOW ARE YOU GONNA KNOW WHAT YOUR ENDING BALANCE IS FOR 16 IF YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOUR REVENUES ARE? I MEAN IT'S JUST A PROJECTION OF WHAT WELL, IT'S GONNA BE OF WHAT? IT IT'S GONNA BE LARGER THAN THE 92,000. IF YOU JUST LOOK AT THE EXPENDITURES HE'S ALREADY SPENT, HE'S NOWHERE NEAR WHAT WE BUDGETED. RIGHT. SO HE'S GONNA HAVE A LARGER BEGINNING. THAT'S WHAT I'M ASKING. YOU USED THE, THE UH, UH, HISTORICAL NUMBER FROM THE YEAR BEFORE AS REVENUE, I MEAN AS A PROJECTION. IS THAT WHAT WE'RE DOING TO ARRIVE AT THIS NUMBER? YEAH. UH, LIKE THE GOSPEL, DO THEY, THEY PAY TO THIS FEE HERE? YES. THEIR PERMIT FEE GOES INTO THIS FUND. THAT'S THE REASON HIGH IS A LARGE PERMIT. ANY COMMERCIAL BUILDING THAT'S NOT WITHIN A CITY. YES. CORRECT. OKAY. OR ETJ. SO EVEN IF IT'S A LITTLE, IN SOME CASES, EVEN IF IT'S IN EJ, IT DEPENDS UPON WHAT THAT PARTICULAR CITY WANTS TO ENFORCE THAT PORTION. UH, MESQUITE ENFORCES THERE. SO THEY ONE OTHER DOES NOT IN PORT. I KNOW I'M SURPRIS THEY, BECAUSE THEY DID OWN DEVELOPMENT. I DOES LIKE THAT. UH, AND WE'VE BEEN SITTING HERE SINCE DAYS. SO I'M, WE'RE NOT BE STAND UP BUT ANYBODY BEFORE HE LEAVES, ANYBODY ASK ANY QUESTIONS? I'M GONNA ASK YOU ONE QUICK QUESTION JUST SO I DON'T HAVE A QUICK QUESTION. EXPLAIN TO ME HOW THE ISOL AND MAY KNOW THIS OR WHATEVER IT'S CALLED RATING. TELL ME HOW, AND THE REASON I'M ASKING HOW MUCH OF THE HUNDRED MORE, WHICH LESS POINTS OR WHATEVER WE SHOULD HAD HOMEOWNER. I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW THAT THERE IS A WIDE ARRAY OF PRODUCE POINTS ALL THE WAY FROM THE MORE POINTS. YEAH, MORE POINTS. YOUR WATER SUPPLIES, YOUR ABILITY TO TRANSFER THOSE WATER TRAINING RECORDS, EVERYTHING. IDENTIFY THE EVERYTHING GOES HIGHEST RATING OF 10 IS THE WORST THAT YOU CAN OBTAIN THAT WE DO NOT HAVE TENS THAT WOULD BE REMOTE AREA. THE VERY REMOTE DISTRICT RATE THAT IN KANSAS THEY HAVE NOT. OH YEAH. UH, A LOT. SEVERAL [02:05:01] YEARS AGO, UH, KIM WAS AT A SIX. WE UH, WE MADE AN EFFORT TO TRY TO REALLY EVALUATE IT AND SEE WHERE THE POINTS COULD BE OBTAINED EASILY. WE DID THAT THROUGH TRAINING. WE GOT WITH OUR WATER DEPARTMENT, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT STARTED DOING ALL THE FLOWS AND EVERYTHING VOLUNTEERING TO DO ALL THAT AND RECORD. SO THAT PROVIDED BETTER. WE, UH, IMPROVED OUR TRAINING RECORDS AND WE PURCHASED EQUIPMENT, CERTAIN TYPES, CONNECTORS AND DIFFERENCE, DIFFERENCE DETAILED SIX TO A THREE. CURRENTLY SHOOTING FOR A THREE RIGHT NOW THEY MIGHT EVEN MAKE ORANGE COUNTYWIDE. THAT'S THE WAY I UNDER, BUT I HAD NO IDEA WHAT THAT MEANT. SO, AND I, HOW THAT WOULD AFFECT DONE THROUGH EACH TAX DISTRICT IS HOW THE INSURANCE RECORDS WE DO THE INVESTIGATION. ALRIGHT, WELL THAT'S A LOT TO COVER. EIGHT 30. OKAY. YOU'RE GOOD. YOU'RE GOOD. GOT YOUR NAME ON IT. GOT MY NAME ON IT SAYS, WELL I GUESS JASON HERE. I, WE YOU WAITING AND UH, A LITTLE BIT AND I KNOW YOU'VE GOT A TRULY NEED TO GET BACK THROUGH AND UH, SO WE APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE. YES SIR. UH, THIS IS, UH, WE HAVE A COPY OF CONSTABLES BUDGET THERE AND UH, I THINK, UH, EXTRA HELP AND WE'RE LOOKING FOR A LITTLE ADDITIONAL FUNDING THERE FOR 5,000. YES SIR. I WAS AND THAT'S BECAUSE YOU UTILIZE YOUR EXTRA HELP FROM SOMEONE ON WEEKENDS I THINK AND I DO. YES SIR. UM, I INITIATED THE FRESH START PROGRAM. UH, AND WE DO HAVE A LOT OF, UH, TEENAGERS THAT COME IN THAT WE'VE BEEN HITTING REALLY HARD FOR TRAVIS RANCH AND WOMEN ON FARMS, UM, KIDS BACK THERE MUDDING AND RACING AND, AND UH, A LOT OF THE KIDS THAT WERE COMING INVOLVED WITH, THEY DON'T HAVE JOBS AND DON'T BELIEVE IN HITTING THE PARENTS' POCKETS FOR THE FINES AND THE COURT COSTS. SO WE HAVE THEM ACTUALLY COMING OUT AND DOING COMMUNITY SERVICE. UM, WE HAD THEM CLEAN UP THE ROADWAYS WITH SHOVELS AND BROOMS. UM, I'VE GOT WITH MR. MINUR OVER AT THE CITY OF FORNEY, UH, PARKS, HE'S WILLING TO UTILIZE THEM AT THE SAME TIME WAS GONNA GET WITH MR. PHILLIPS AND SEE IF THESE GUYS CAN GO OUT THERE TO THE ROAD BRIDGE OR ANY ROAD BRIDGE AND HELP CLEAN UP AND WE PICK UP WHAT THEY NEED TO DO TO WORK OFF THEIR FARMS. GOOD, GOOD. SO REALLY ARE WELCOME. SHE COMES OUT A LOT ON THE WEEKENDS TO HELP KEEP TRACK OF THEIR HOURS THAT THEY PUT IN THEIR NAMES AND SO FORTH. SO SHE'S BEEN HELPFUL. LOOKS LIKE IT BEEN BEEN 14. YOU SPENT ABOUT, THAT WAS YOUR FIRST FULL YEAR I GUESS. YES SIR. YOU SPENT ABOUT 15,000. THAT'S WHAT WE BUDGETED. YOU SPENT ABOUT 8,500 SO FAR THROUGH APRIL THE 30TH. UH, BUT YOU FEEL LIKE THAT WITH THE SUMMER GOING ON, YOU'LL UTILIZE THAT FOR SERVICE MORE SO. ABSOLUTELY. OKAY. WELL AND THE OTHER, THE OTHER THREE, UH, ALL OF IT HAS 20,000 THERE. I, I HAD SUGGESTED TO THAT 5,000 TOOK 15 HIS FOR 3,600 FEET. HIS OTHER TO MAKE HIM A SERGEANT. AND TWO, I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT. 20 IS A GOOD THING SINCE EVERYBODY ELSE IS KEEPING IT THERE. THE OTHER TWO IS KEEPING IT. AND THEN ON THE AMMUNITION, I THINK WE DECIDED THAT, WE DECIDED WE WERE GONNA GO. WE WE DID. WE CHANGED THAT. UH, SEAN PUT, HE GOT 600 IN HIS. I'VE [02:10:01] ALWAYS SAID WE WERE GONNA LET EVERYBODY COWS. YES. BUT WE RAISED IT TO 1,500 PER I THOUGHT IT WAS TWO 50 PERSON. IT'S PERSON. SO THAT'D BE 500. IT'S TWO 50 PER THE PERSON MYSELF. AND, BUT I HAVE UM, TWO RESERVES, TWO ADDITIONAL OFFICIAL TO A THOUSAND THAT'S WAS GONNA GET THAT GUY OKLAHOMA. YOU KNOW, THE GUY THAT KILLED HE HAD TRAIN. TRAIN. YEAH. OR HE MIGHT HAVE SHOWED THAT HE HAD IT, BUT I DON'T THINK HE EXIT HAD IT. RIGHT. ALRIGHT. UH, PARTS AND REPAIRS. YOU ARE, UH, ACCIDENT PRETTY GOOD THERE. UH, I GUESS YOU'VE GOT ONE CAR, YOU JUST PRETTY WELL PARKED HAVEN'T YOU? YES SIR. UH, I WAS UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT PRECINCT ONE AND I HAVE ONE VEHICLE THAT IS JUST, IT'S COSTING MORE TO MAINTAIN IT THAN IT IS TO OPERATE ON THE ROADWAY. UM, AND PRECINCT ONE WAS GOING TO, UH, ALLOW ME TO TAKE THE CROWN VEHICLE THAT HE HAS, WHICH IS NEWER BECAUSE ONE THAT I HAVE IS HAS ABOUT 150,000 MILES OFF. UM, AND WE'RE STILL WAITING ON THAT. I I DIDN'T, IT'D BEEN NICE TO PUT IN FOR A NEW VEHICLE, BUT TRYING TO SAVE MONEY IF HE'S GOT ONE THAT'S GOT 60,000, I CAN STILL UTILIZE IT. YEAH. YOU KNOW WHERE WE ARE ON THAT. I, I KEEP FORGETTING TO SAY ANYTHING TOO, SEAN ABOUT IT. UH, I DO NOT SINCE HE'S NOT GONNA HAVE A PART TIME. YEAH. LET ME, I'LL FOLLOW UP ON THAT AND UH, GET WITH JACK AND SEE, UH, WHAT IS IT? DO YOU REMEMBER? I, I REMEMBER WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THAT AND I DIDN'T, IT NEEDS TO BE DONE. YEAH. I HAVE THE 2008 CROWN VIC WITH HUNDRED RIGHT. AT ABOUT 50,000 MILES ON IT AND HE HAS ONE THAT'S JUST, UH, 2010, BUT IT'S GOT, I THINK HE SAID 70 OR 80 POUNDS AND HE SAID IT'S STILL OPERATIONAL. VERY GOOD. UM, IT DOES HAVE THE OVER LIGHT OVERHEAD LIGHTS ON IT AND I WOULD'VE TO CHANGE THE STICKERS A LITTLE BIT. YEAH. AND THE CAMERA SYSTEM IS BECAUSE IT OPERATES UNDER THE OLD BHS, WHICH WE DON'T USE ANYMORE. UM, BUT OTHER THAN THAT MAINTENANCE, IT, IT SAVES A LOT OF MONEY. GOTCHA. ABSOLUTELY. SO I CAN UTILIZE THAT VEHICLE. SO THE OLD ONE YOU HAVE, IS IT BE TURNED BACK IN? THAT'S CORRECT, YES SIR. OKAY. I WILL, I'LL FOLLOW UP ON THAT. SO IF WE'RE ABLE TO DO THAT THEN I, I WOULDN'T NEED TO MESS WITH MY MAINTENANCE ALL ON THAT. PARKING REPAIRS. YES SIR. WHAT ABOUT YOUR GAS LOOK LIKE YOUR GAS IS DOWN CONSIDERABLY? UH, TWO AND UH, OF COURSE IN 13 THERE WAS SPENT 44, 64 65 AND THEN 14 5500. DO YOU THINK YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO CUT BACK A LITTLE BIT ON THAT, ON THE GAS SIDE OF IT? I ACTUALLY BUMPED IT UP, UM, CONSIDERING WITH THE FRESH START PROGRAM, UM, AS WELL AS UH, MY UNDER UNDERSTANDING IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE TAKEN, UH, PRECINCT FOR EMISSIONS. UM, AND I PLANNED ON BRINGING ON A RESERVE, UH, FROM DALLAS COUNTY THAT RAINIER ADMISSION SITE OVER THERE FOR ME. UM, AND IF THAT'S THE CASE, THEN HE'S GONNA BE DOING A LOT OF DRIVING AROUND AND CHECKING THE STATIONS OUT. YEAH, WELL IT ACTUALLY SHOWS THAT YOU BUDGETED 10,000 LAST YEAR. YES SIR. OR THIS YEAR AND YOU'RE REQUESTING THE SAME AMOUNT, JUST JUST AN EXTRA THOUSAND DOLLARS JUST TO BE SAFE ON THE NUTRITION SIDE. YEAH, IT DIDN'T COME OUT RIGHT. IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN 10,000 UNDER. YEAH, I SEE. I AND YOU KIND OF WANT TO EXPLAIN THE WHAT HAPPENED ON THE COMMISS MISSIONS DEAL THAT UH, IT WAS THAT PRECINCT FOUR, IT STARTED WITH THE GRANT. MM-HMM . RIGHT. AND THEN CONSTABLE BRYANT DECIDED HE DID NOT WANT TO FOOL WITH ANYMORE. CONSTABLE BRYANT SAYS THAT HE'S GOT A LOT OF STUFF THAT'S GOING ON RIGHT NOW AND HE DOESN'T HAVE THE TIME OF THE MANPOWER TO OPERATE IT AND DO WHAT'S REQUIRED BY THE STATE. NOW SINCE THE ADMISSION SIDE OF IT IS A GRANT PROGRAM, WE DEFINITELY DON'T WANT TO LOSE THAT GRANT PROJECT. AND FOR ME, BEING ABLE TO WORK THE ADMISSION SIDE OF IT FOR DALLAS COUNTY. UM, AND THEN PLUS I HAVE A GENTLEMAN THAT UH, DID RUN IT OVER THERE FOR US FOR DALLAS COUNTY. HE HAS SINCE LEFT DALLAS COUNTY AND HE'S LOOKING FOR A JOB. UM, I WAS ACTUALLY GONNA PUT IN FOR PRECINCT ONE'S POSITION THAT HE WAS TURNING IN TO HIRE HIM TO RUN ADMISSIONS FULL TIME. BUT I KNOW THAT WE'RE TRYING TO SAVE MONEY SO IF I JUST AT LEAST GET THE ADMISSION SIDE OF IT, I CAN BRING HIM ON AS A RESERVE AND MAINTAIN THAT ADMISSION. SO WE DO NOT LOSE THAT FROM THE STATE. 'CAUSE I UNDERSTAND THAT UH, WE CALLED IN ON YESTERDAY AND IT'S $30,000 [02:15:02] EVERY YEAR THAT WE GET JUST IMMEDIATELY TO MAINTAIN THE ADMISSION SIDE OF IT. SO WE GET 60,000 AND THEN PLUS IF I GET UH, DEPUTY STEVENS TO, OR, OR UH, DEPUTY KITCHENS TO COME ON AS A RESERVE, HE CAN ALSO HIRE, UH, FILE GRANTS TO MAINTAIN A FULL-TIME POSITION UNDER THE GRANT MONEY ALONE. YEAH. AND I THINK THAT'S ONE OF THE FUNDS THEY'VE FREED UP DOWN THERE OR FREED UP SOME OF IT. SO I THINK THERE MAY BE MORE MONEY THAT WILL BE COMING OUR WAY. WE NEED TO KEEP IT GOING. YEAH, EXACTLY. AND TELL EXACTLY WHAT MORE THAN THE GRANT COMPANY. IF WE DO, IF I DO GET THAT POSITION AND I HIRE UH, DEPUTY KITCHENS OVER IT, THAT OFFICER'S GONNA GO AROUND AND CHECK EVEN THOUGH THAT WE DON'T HAVE THE INSPECTIONS ON THE VEHICLES ANYMORE. RIGHT. THEY STILL HAVE TO GET THEIR VEHICLE INSPECTED AND WITH THE REGISTRATION SITE THEY'LL GO GET THE REGISTRATION FIRST TO GIVE 'EM A FORM AND TAKE IT TO THE INSPECTION STATION, GET THE INSPECTION AND BRING THAT BACK. NOW UNDER STATE LAW SAYS THAT ANYTIME THAT WE PULL SOMEBODY OVER, THEY'RE STILL SUPPOSED TO MAINTAIN THAT INSPECTION CERTIFICATE IN THEIR CAR. UM, AND WE HAVE A WAY UNDER THE DATABASE FOR THE DMV ON THE EMISSION SIDE OF IT TO CHECK AND SEE IF THAT PAPERWORK IS FAKE, FICTITIOUS MADE UP, DOESN'T EXIST. MAINTAINING THE ADMISSIONS. WE WILL BE ABLE TO IDENTIFY THE FICTITIOUS INSPECTION CERTIFICATES AND IF SO, DEPUTY KITCHENS ALSO HAS FILED CASE REPORTS AGAINST THE INSPECTION STATIONS FOR FICTITIOUS INSPECTIONS WHERE WE CAN GO IN AND SEIZE THEIR MACHINES. UM, BY DOING THAT, THAT IS INCOME THAT COMES INTO THE COUNTY FOR ANY STATION THAT GIVES FICTITIOUS INSPECTION CERTIFICATES OUT AND THEN PLUS WE GET THE VEHICLES OFF THE ROADWAY THAT DO NOT NEED TO BE. UM, SO IT'S A HUGE ASSET TO SO THEY'RE SUPPOSED, LIKE I JUST HAD MINE INSPECTED BUT THEY DIDN'T TELL ME TO KEEP THAT PAPER IN MY CAR. YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO KEEP THAT PAPER IN THE CAR. THAT'S AN ISSUE THAT WE'VE BEEN RUNNING WITH NOW. FAIRLY NEW ONE, 2-YEAR-OLD. YOU JUST TAKE THIS TO GET MY TAGS. I DID, BUT NOTHING. WELL, I THOUGHT THAT WAS THE IDEA TOO. IF YOU'VE GOT A TAG, THEY KNOW THAT YOU'VE GOT IT INSPECTED SO THERE'S LESS, YOU DON'T HAVE TO HAVE A STICKER, BUT NOW YOU HAVE TO KEEP UP WITH PAPERWORK. YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO KEEP UP THE PAPERWORK. AND THAT'S AN ISSUE THAT WE'RE RUNNING INTO RIGHT NOW. THE TAX OFFICE. NO, SOME OF THE TAX OFFICER ARE NOT TELLING THE CITIZENS YOU NEED TO KEEP ONCE YOU GET THIS INSPECTION AND BRING IT BACK TO A WELL, IT DOESN'T SAY ON THE INSPECTION THING EITHER WHEN THEY HAD IT TELL YOU THAT YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO KEEP IT RIGHT. YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO KEEP IT NOWHERE DOES IT DOESN'T IDENTIFY OR TELL YOU THAT YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO DO THAT. RIGHT. AND TECHNICALLY YOU CAN STILL GET A CITATION ABOVE THE DISPLAY INSPECTION CERTIFICATE BEING PREPARED FOR THAT. YOU JUST GOT TO GET THE VEHICLE INSPECT. I KNOW DALLAS COUNTY JUST, THEY PASSED A, SENT A THING OUT IN THERE UNTIL SAID THAT YOU CAN'T NO LONGER STOP OR RIDE A TICKET OR, OR FAILED THE DISPLAY OR A DISPLAY OF INSPECTION. RIGHT. BECAUSE IT'S NO LONGER ON THE, THEY WON'T RIDE A TICKET FOR THAT. RIGHT, RIGHT. LIKE FOR MY VEHICLE, IT'S BRAND NEW. MY INSPECTION DOESN'T EXPIRE OFF NEXT YEAR REGISTRATION GOES UP. WELL WHAT THEY'RE TELLING ME TO DO IS JUST GO AHEAD AND PULL THE INSPECTION OFF AND JUST GET YOUR VEHICLE REGISTERED. WELL, SINCE THE INSPECTION EXPIRES UNTIL 2016, I'M THE ONLY ON YEAH, YEAH, BECAUSE IF I PULL IT OFF AND I DON'T HAVE THE INSPECTION CERTIFICATE, I CAN GET A CITATION. WELL THAT THAT'S, THEY NEED TO CHANGE THAT. RIGHT. IF THEY'RE GOING TO DO THAT, THEY NEED TO GO BACK AND GIVE A STICKER THAT YOU CAN DISPLAY AND THEN THAT DOESN'T GIVE RIGHT. CAUSE TO STUFF. YEAH, I GUESS I'LL TAKE TICKET IT, I'M NOT GONNA WORRIED ABOUT IT TOO MUCH THAT I MEAN, I MEAN EVEN ON THE CITATION ON THIS CERTIFICATE, ON THE INSPECTION, IF YOU GET A CITATION FOR NOT HAVING YOUR INSPECTION CERTIFICATE, YOU CAN GO GET AN IN INSPECTED AND DRINK TO COURT WITHIN 15 DAYS TO DISMISSAL. YEAH, BUT WHAT IF YOU ALREADY HAVE, BUT IF YOU ALREADY GOT IT INSPECTED THEN AND YOU WOULDN'T GET A LICENSE PLATE IF IT WASN'T ALREADY INSPECTED. IT'S SUPPOSED TO COME UP ON THE, IT'S SUPPOSED TO PULL UP ON THE TAX BUT IT'S NOT PULLING UP. REALLY. THAT'S WHY THEY'RE TELLING EVERYBODY MAINTAIN THEY CAN'T YEAH, THEY CAN'T RIDE THE TICKET, THEY CAN'T RIDE THE TICKET PART NO MORE. RIGHT. SO THAT'S WHY I ACTUALLY BUMPED THE FUEL UP TO 11 FOR THAT PURPOSE. IS EVERYBODY OKAY WITH THAT? WELL, I DON'T KNOW. I'M, YOU KNOW, IT MEANS ONLY USE 2000. YEAH. I MEAN IN SEVEN MONTHS. I, MAN, I DON'T WANT BE RUDE, BUT BUT AT THE SAME TIME, I MEAN THE ONLY REASON WHY IS BECAUSE I HAVE THAT ONE VEHICLE THAT WE CAN'T EVEN DRIVE. I MEAN IT'S SITTING IN THE PARKING LOT AND YOU'RE GONNA GET THAT OTHER PROGRAM. YES. HOW MANY DAYS A WEEK YOU GONNA DRIVE? WELL, HE'S GONNA BE HERE AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE. I MEAN THIS ISN'T A MINIMUM OF 12 HOURS. HE'S WANTING A FULL-TIME JOB AND IF HE'S WANTING TO MAINTAIN THE SUBMISSIONS, HE'S GONNA HAVE, DON'T HAVE ANOTHER [02:20:01] FULLTIME JOB, PAY EXTRA WHAT'S GRANT VERSUS OR COST ON THE GRANT SIDE, WE'RE GONNA GET 30,000 A INCREASE. THE EXTRA HELP, THE GRANT WILL BE 60,000. IT IS 30,000 A YEAR. SO IT'S 60,000 RIGHT OFF THE BAT. NOW FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, BECAUSE I HAVEN'T GOTTEN THE EMISSIONS ANNUAL OVER YET, WE STILL HAVE MONEY IN THE ADMISSIONS ACCOUNT FOR THIS POSITION OVER PRECINCT FOR NOW WITH THAT MONEY ALONE THAT COULD PAY FOR A PART-TIME JOB THAT COULD PAY YOU, THAT COULD PAY THAT PLUS YOUR, LET ME GO GET, LET ME GO GET THE CURRENT REPORT. THE ONLY THING THAT I DON'T KNOW IS IF THAT THAT, UH, EMISSION SIDE OF IT COMES WITH A VEHICLE. SO IF IT DOESN'T COME WITH A VEHICLE, THAT IS THE IMPERATIVE IMPORTANCE. THE INCOME AND COST GOING EQUAL OUT. YES. IT'S GOING PUT US IN THE, WELL I TELL YOU. RIGHT? NO, IT'S GOING TO, IT IS GOING OUT BECAUSE THE ONLY THING THAT'S GOING TO COST US IS EVERYTHING ELSE IS GONNA BE UNDER THE GRID ISSUE IS WE'RE IN A NON-ATTAINMENT COUNTY AND YOU KNOW, SUPPOSED TO REGULATE THAT. YEAH. ENFORCE POLICE AND THE THE OTHER IS, I THINK THIS GRANT HAS BEEN INACTIVE. IT'S NOT, WE'VE NOT DONE VERY MUCH WITH IT. NOTHING WITH IT AT ALL. AND THE COLLEGE IS, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE ONLY, THEY'RE THEY'RE GETTING ANTSY TO PULL IT WITH OUR COUNTY. WE'RE REQUIRED TO HAVE IT. YEAH. BUT ALSO UNDER THE FUEL AND GAS AND OIL, JUST TO LET YOU KNOW, UM, I'VE BEEN CONTACTED BY TABC TO HELP IMPLEMENT A PROGRAM FOR SELLING TOBACCO TO MINES. NOW UNDER THIS, ALL I HAVE TO DO IS GO TO LOCATIONS WITH A MINOR THAT ACTUALLY NOT EMPLOYED BY US, DOESN'T GET PAID BY US, BUT JUST TO JOIN IN AND TRY TO BUY TOBACCO. AND IF THEY GO IN AND BUY TOBACCO, THE TABC WILL PAY $75 PER STEAM THROUGH THE DEPARTMENT THAT HAS INITIATED THIS. SO THE ONLY THING THAT I'VE BEEN WAITING ON IS TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW MANY LOCATIONS IN COUNTY SELL TOBACCO SO I CAN SELL. EXACTLY. BECAUSE THEY NEED TO KNOW AT, AT LEAST CLOSE ENOUGH TO THE NUMBER THAT WE CAN HAVE AND WE CAN GO OUT AND TRY TO DO THESE PURCHASE SEAL ON THESE STAKES. SO YOU FIGURE IF I CAN GET THIS IMPLEMENTED, I HAVE THE PAPERWORK ALREADY DONE, I JUST NEED TO GET WELL AND, AND OF COURSE I'M GAS ALL, YOU CAN'T USE IT FOR ANY OTHER PURPOSE ANYWAY. SO I'M GOOD WITH THAT 11,000. I MEAN, AT ANY POINT, YOU KNOW, WHEN IT COMES TIME FOR THE NEXT BUDGET, IF I DIDN'T USE THAT MUCH, THEN I'LL BE MORE WILLING TO GIVE PORTION BACK THAT I NEED TO. OKAY. AND THEN THE NEXT ONE WAS THE TRAINING EDUCATION CONFERENCE, UH, 2000. YOU WANTED TO GO UP FROM 1200, RIGHT. AND, UH, BUT YOU ONLY SPENT 2 0 2 44. UH, AS OF APRIL THE 30TH. AND I KNOW YOU WENT, YOU'VE BEEN TO SOME CONFERENCES. I I WENT TO THE HUNTSVILLE, WHICH WAS A MANDATED COURSE UNDER THE NEWLY ELECTED CONSTABLES. RIGHT. UM, AND THEN THE REST OF IT IS ACTUALLY FIXING TO BE SPENT FOR THE JPCA, UM, THAT WE'RE GOING TO JAIL. SO THAT IS, AND I'M ACTUALLY JPCA IS THE JUSTICE ON PEACE CONSTABLE ASSOCIATION. OKAY. UM, AND BELIEVE IT OR NOT, WE'RE ACTUALLY GOING OVER WHAT I HAVE IN THERE. SO WE'RE HAVING TO PULL MONEY OUT OF THE, MY GENERAL BUDGET TO COVER THE COSTS, WHAT IT IS FOR US TO GO. I THINK THIS COURT IS SUPPORT THE EDUCATION, EVERYBODY THAT, UH, THE UNIFORMS, UH, TELL US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT. ON THE UNIFORM SIDE OF IT. MYSELF AND DEPUTY , ALONG WITH MY RESERVES, WE PURCHASED OUR OWN UNIFORMS, UM, BECAUSE WE DIDN'T KNOW WHAT THE BUDGET SIDE WAS AT FIRST UNTIL WHEN I TOOK OFFICE WAS ABLE TO FIGURE OUT WHAT IT WAS. AND THEN WE WERE ABLE TO BUY NEW UNIFORMS. NOW SINCE WE'VE ONLY PURCHASED TWO UNIFORMS PER PERSON, UM, AND THAT'S, YOU KNOW, INCLUDING A HEAVY JACKET AS WELL. THE HEAVY JACKETS ALONE ARE $180 A PIECE. UM, ON THE RESERVE SIDE OF IT, I'VE HAD THEM BUY THEIR OWN UNIFORMS BECAUSE I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT THE COST WAS GOING TO BE FOR MYSELF AND ER, BECAUSE WE HAVE OUR, OUR HEAVY JACKETS, OUR LONG SLEEVES, BUT THEN WE HAVE OUR SUMMER UNIFORM, SO WORN ON OUT, BURNING UP IN THE HEAT SINCE I RAISED IT. IF I GET THE EMISSION SIDE OF IT, THAT WAS GONNA COVER DEPUTY KITCHENS. UM, THAT WAS ALSO, I WASN'T GOING TO DIP INTO DEPUTY HOOPS PERSONAL FINANCIAL RESPONSIBILITY ANYMORE AND [02:25:01] PAY FOR HIS UNIFORMS AS WELL, BECAUSE HE IS UNEMPLOYED. HE'S RETIRED AND HE ENJOYS WORKING HERE. AND, UM, I'D LIKE TO KEEP HIM HERE 'CAUSE HE HELPS OUT WITH THE COURT SO WE CAN GO WORK WARRANTS AND TRAFFIC. SO IF I NEED TO DROP THAT DOWN A LITTLE BIT, I'LL BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO. BUT I DO KNOW THAT A FULL UNIFORM PANTS AND SHIRT ALONE IS A HUNDRED, $120. NOW THAT ALSO INCLUDES THE PATCHES. YEAH, I KNOW. WE NEED TO REORDER, WHICH WAS $488 FOR THE SHOULDER PATCHES AND THE CHEST PATCH TOGETHER FROM GT DISTRIBUTORS. AND THE BATCH, LIKE SEAN HAS 1500, UH, THE ONE BEHIND HIM, I DON'T WHO'S ONE BEHIND HAS 2,500 THAN HIS. HE WAS ASKING FOR TWO NOW EVEN A MINUTE. SO THAT, SOMEWHERE ALONG THE LINES. SO WE OUGHT HAVE A LITTLE, SOME OF 'EM HAVE MORE RESERVES. I, I'M, I'M RATHER SAYING I AGREE. I'M NOT COVERS, I'M JUST NOT CONVINCED YOU HAVE DONE RIGHT. AND I MEAN, AND, AND YOU KNOW, IT COVERS EVERYTHING. I MEAN, JUST, THAT'S JUST BEING THE SAFETY SIDE OF IT. I MEAN, YOU KNOW, DON'T GET ME WRONG, I'M NOT, I'LL BE MORE THAN WILLING TO TAKE, YOU KNOW, THE MONEY THAT I CAN GET JUST IN CASE IF I, YOU KNOW, I RUN OUT OF THAT, PULL THE UNIFORM ON, I CAN USE THAT TO BUY A VEST. WELL, THAT WAS GONNA BE MY NEXT QUESTION THOUGH, BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE A VEST. I'M ACTUALLY WEARING A VEST THAT WAS LOANED THROUGH ME, LOANED TO ME FROM DALLAS COUNTY SINCE I THINK I THINK YOU YEAH, BUT THEY'RE COMPLETELY OUT OF, I THINK I'M, I'M GONNA ASK YOU TO HAVE 2,500. THAT'S WHAT I ASK. YEAH, I THINK Y'ALL HAVE 25, 2 HAVE 20. HOW ABOUT THREE? WOULD YOU WANT THREE? SURE. I COULD GET A VEST OUTTA THAT. YEAH. 2025. WELL THAT SHOULD WE HAVE VEST AND EQUIPMENT? WELL, WELL, I THINK I COME BACK TO THAT. I'M GONNA COME BACK TO THE BEST THING THAT I THINK ABOUT THIS WRONG. I THINK, I THINK WE OUGHT BE BUYING ALL THE BEST SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT. I THINK ONE, ONE PLACE WOULD BE A GOOD SPOT. AND THEN WHEN SOMEBODY LEAVES OR SOMEBODY COMES IN NEW, MAYBE, I DON'T KNOW JACK, WHAT YOU THINK, BUT, BUT I THINK THAT YOU COULD JUST GO OVER SHERIFF FARM AND SAY, I NEED A VEST. AND YOU KNOW, I THINK SOMEWHERE ALONG THE LINE WE'VE GOTTA GET SOME UNIFORMITY GOING IN THE, IN THE VEST AND WELL, THEY'RE NOT GONNA PAY FOR THEM OUT OF THEIR BUDGET. WE'RE NOT. WELL, NO, BUT WE HAVE TO HAVE MONEY TO IT. WELL, IT'S ALL, IT'S ALL THE SAME MONEY. I KNOW THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE LIES HER VEST THROUGH, UM, UNIFORM INC IN DOWNTOWN DALLAS. THEY ALL COME FROM THE SAME PLACE. RIGHT. BUT THE DEAL IS, IS THAT IT, WE CAN'T WHAT THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE, I MEAN, AND I KNOW I'M SPEAKING, IF SHERIFF'S OFFICE BUYS 12 VESTS FOR 12 INDIVIDUALS AND FIVE OF THEM LEAVE THE VEST OR SIZE FOR THE OFFICER ALONE. SO IF I GO OVER TO SHERIFF'S OFFICE AND THEY HAVE A GREAT VEST, UNFORTUNATELY, THAT THEY PURCHASED, BUT SOMEBODY DIDN'T MAKE IT AND LEFT THAT VEST MAY NOT FIT AND THEN THEREFORE YOU START RUNNING INTO A SAFETY ISSUE. I MEAN, IT WOULD BE, I'M NOT SAYING, I'M NOT SAYING THAT. I'M JUST SAYING THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY TAKE MEASUREMENTS, THEY DO WHATEVER IT IS, AND THEY FIT EVERYBODY AND EVERY OFFICER THAT COMES IN. OH YEAH. I'M JUST SAYING THAT ABSOLUTELY. THIS SEEMS KIND OF ONLY THING I'M SAYING IS TO SIMPLIFY SOME OF THE BUDGETS AND SOME OF THE RIGHT PLACES LIKE PARTS AND THE APPLIES AND THE VEHICLES AND THINGS. IT IS JUST, IT'S JUST, I DON'T KNOW. IT JUST SEEMS LIKE YOU DON'T KNOW WHERE YOU'RE GOING, YOU KNOW? IN OTHER WORDS, IF HE PUTS $3,000 IN A, IN A BUDGET, HOW MANY VESTS DOES THAT MAKE NEXT YEAR? DOES HE NEED 3000 BECAUSE HE IS GOT THAT MEANS MORE NEW? NO, THEY SHOULD LAST FOUR OR FIVE YEARS AND HE'S GOT THE SAME GUYS. HE DOESN'T NEED PRETTY BAD. YEAH. THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO LAST FIVE YEARS. YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS WHERE IT'S A TOUGH, IT'S A TOUGH CALL TO PUT IT IN ONE, ALL THESE INDIVIDUAL BUDGETS, I DUNNO ABOUT SPLIT IT UP FAR AS HOW TO PAY, BUT, BUT, UH, I KNOW THAT THE BODY ARMOR WILL GET FOR, SO IT IS A GOOD PRICE, BUT WE'VE CHECKED QUOTES NUMEROUS TIMES WAS VERY GOOD PRICE. I WILL SAY, HOWEVER, THE UNIFORM THING IS AN ISSUE. I THINK IT, I THINK IT WOULD BE, UH, GREAT IF ALL THE CONS BEFORE SAME UNIFORM GET BETTER PRICING ON ALL THAT. THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. PASSIONS ARE DIFFERENT. YOU KNOW, THEY THERE THAT WE, EVERYBODY THE SAME THING. YEAH. I KNOW. I DON'T WANNA WORK HANDS, BUT LET'S SAY THEY WANNA SAY YOU POINTED NO, I, I'M, I'M PROBABLY ON THIS PAGE THAT, YOU KNOW, IT DOESN'T HAVE ANYTHING AGAINST YOU WANTING TO PICK OUT YOUR UNIFORM OR YOUR BEST. IT'S, IT IS, YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST THE THING THAT IT LEADS, YOU KNOW, IT'S KIND OF LIKE SQUAD CARS, YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY TRIES TO, YOU KNOW, WHEN ONE OF 'EM STARTED DOING WHITE AND BLUE AND THEY ALL COPIED THAT SAME DALLAS THING AND THEN IT WENT AROUND THE COUNTRY [02:30:01] AND NOW THEY'RE GOING ON BACK TO BLACK AND WHITE AND THEY'RE ALL TRYING TO GET UNIFORMS. AT LEAST WE CAN GO FROM ONE CITY TO THE NEXT, RECOGNIZE THE POLICE COPY. AND IF THEY'RE ALL WEARING PRETTY MUCH THE SAME KIND OF UNIFORM, THEY PRETTY MUCH RECOGNIZE THAT THE UNIFORM BEST. IT JUST SEEMS LIKE WE OUGHT TO BE DOING SOMETHING. WE CAN COME BACK AND, AND WHEN WE, YOU KNOW, GET A FURTHER DOWN THE WAY, I THINK IT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED. YEAH. THEN ON THE OFFICE FURNITURE AND NEW EQUIPMENT, UH, THE SAME, UH, WE'RE, UH, PROBABLY GONNA DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT ON THAT. YOU KNOW, UH, YEAH, WE, WELL THE ONLY REASON WHY I DID THAT, JOE, IS BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THE FIRST PART OF IT, UM, WE HAD TO PURCHASE, UM, THE TA THE LASER, AND WE HAD TO PURCHASE SOME OTHER EQUIPMENT. UH, SOME COUPLE OF NEW DESKS BECAUSE OF, UH, THE DESKS THAT I HAD FOR MY EMPLOYEES WAS FALLING APART. SO WE WENT TO THE CHEAPEST PLACE. I ACTUALLY PURCHASED THOSE DESKS AND TAR, UM, TO BUY TWO NEW VEST OR RETAINS. THE REASON WHY I LEFT IT THE SAME IS BECAUSE RIGHT NOW WHEN I TOOK OFFICE, THERE WAS THREE TASERS THERE AND I HAVE TWO OF THOSE TASERS THAT DO NOT WORK ANYMORE. AND THE ONE TASER THAT DOES WORK, I'M CARRYING, AND DEPUTY VOLMER IS WEARING A TASER THAT'S BEEN, UH, LOANED FROM ANOTHER AGENCY. UM, I'VE CONTACTED TASER AND UNFORTUNATELY THE TASERS THAT WE HAVE ARE OBSOLETE. THEY'RE NOT MAKING 'EM ANYMORE. THEY'RE NOT FIXING 'EM. THEY SAID, I CAN USE 'EM FOR PAPERWEIGHT. UM, AND THE TASERS THAT WE HAVE TO GO TO NOW IS THE X 26 FEES. WELL, THOSE, THOSE TASERS ARE $1,300 A PIECE. WELL, NOT ONLY THAT, MY OFFICE DOESN'T HAVE BODY CAMERAS AND SO I'M TRYING TO PURCHASE BODY CAMERAS FOR ER AND I, AND THEN ANYBODY ELSE THAT I HIRE AND THE BODY CAMERAS, UH, I THINK PRECINCT ONE AND PRECINCT, UH, FOUR HAVE THOSE. AND I THINK WHO THEY BOUGHT 'EM THROUGH WAS LIKE 300 OR 409 5 OH PIECE. SO TRYING TO GET THIS AND, AND BE AN OPERATING DEPARTMENT WITH THE BODY CAMS, ONE TO PROVIDE SAFETY FROM OFFICERS IN THE COUNTY, BUT TWO, THE TASER SIDE OF IT, BECAUSE WE DO DEAL WITH A LOT OF WHITE WARRANTS. UM, AND THE LESS LETHAL, WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SEDUCE SOMEBODY. I WANT TO MAINTAINED THAT, RIGHT? YEAH. AND WE, I THINK WE ALL DO. SO BACK TO THE TASER. UH, WE DO THAT. I'LL VOLUNTEER COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS TEST IT, MAKE SURE WE'RE GETTING A GOOD WELL, YOU, I'LL BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO HAND IT TO YOU AND YOU CAN, YOU CAN DO THAT. SAY, I'VE GOT A GUY DOWN HERE FIXING USE. I EVEN CONTACTED, I EVEN CONTACTED TASER TO SEE IF THEY WOULD DO A BUYBACK PROGRAM ON AT LEAST THE ONES THAT I HAVE. AND THEY SAID, NO, PROBABLY DON'T HAVE, WE CAN GIVE YOU, WE'LL PUT YOU ON A LIST IF YOU HAVE ONE THAT'S WORKING, UM, FOR AGENCIES THAT CANNOT AFFORD ONE, YOU CAN DONATE IT TO THEM, BUT IT'S NOT WORTH ANYTHING. WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING THAT, WHY ARE WE PAYING FOR THE TASERS? YOU KNOW, RIGHT OFF HAND. I DO NOT. DO WE HAVE A SINGLE SOURCE OR A SOURCE? UH, THERE, THERE, THERE'S SEVERAL SOURCES. I THINK THEY COVER QT DISTRIBUTORS MOST OF THE TIME. OKAY. THEY, THEY'RE ALREADY MINE. YOU IT TEACH. WE WON'T, WON'T PUT THAT IN THERE AT THIS MINUTE. AND IF YOU NEED ONE, YOU TELL ME. I I GET IT FOR YOU OUTTA MY BUDGET IF I NEED TO. I, I THAT, UH, THAT UH, AND JACK, WILL YOU LET ME KNOW WHAT ONE COST CAN YOU FIND THE SOURCE FOR? WELL, I NEED, THEY NEED TO LET ME KNOW WHAT MODEL NUMBER THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT THE X 26 PS. I NEED THREE OF 'EM. AND THE ONLY REASON WHY I SAY THAT IS BECAUSE WE HAVE NO WAY TO CHARGE THESE BATTERIES. THESE THINGS ARE SEVEN YEARS OLD. UM, AND MINE'S ABOUT TO DIE. AND LIKE I SAID, THE OTHER TWO THAT I HAVE IN MY OFFICE ARE PAPERWEIGHT. THE GOOD THING IS YOU CAN'T, YOU CANNOT, IS THAT THE MODEL RIGHT THERE? X NO, THIS IS THE X 26. THIS IS THE ONE THAT THEY'RE NO LONGER USING. THE X 26 P IS THE NEW UPDATED VERSION, WHICH I HAVE ALL THE PAPERWORK AT MY OFFICE AND YOU CAN RECHARGE THOSE. IT HAS THE, THE, THE CELL BATTERY ON IT FROM THE TIME THAT YOU PURCHASE. IT HAS UP TO 500 SHOTS GUARANTEED. THE CARTRIDGES THAT I JUST PURCHASED FOR AT THE TIME, THESE TWO OF 'EM THAT WERE WORKING ARE UNIVERSAL TO THE X 26 PIECE. SO YOU CAN USE IT. OKAY. ABSOLUTELY. IT WAS NOT A WASTE GRAB, DROP THAT GUY UP TALK OR WHATEVER IT WAS. YEAH. IT'S JUST LIKE, YOU KNOW, UH, BUT, BUT YOU KNOW, EVEN THAT, YOU KNOW, IT, IT COMES BACK. SEE, I, I JUST THINK, YOU KNOW, I'M WITH JACK A HUNDRED GENTLE THIS UNIFORM AND THING. WE JUST NEED ONE SOURCE. YOU KNOW, EVEN THESE, YOU, YOU, YOU KNOW, YOU NEED ONE TO BREAK IT, GO OVER TO THE SHERIFF'S [02:35:01] DEPARTMENT AND WE'VE GOT A SUPPLY OFFICER, A SUPPLY UNIT OR SOMETHING THAT SITS THERE AND SAYS, OKAY, WE NEED A TASER UNIT. AND THEY BRING IT TO THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT, THEY MORNING BUDGET AND WE PUT IT THERE. WELL, THERE'S BOUND TO BE A WAY WE CAN, WE'LL NEED TO WORK WITH KAREN AND SEE HOW WE DO THAT. THERE'S BOUND BE A WAY WE CAN ACCOMPLISH THAT. SO, I MEAN, THIS THING, IF YOU, IF YOU, YOU CAN'T KEEP GOING BACK TO THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT. I MEAN, YOU CAN BE CONSISTENT WITH THEIR EQUIPMENT AND WE CAN BUY 'EM FROM THE SAME LOCATION, BUT TO BE TRUE BUDGET, THEY NEED, YOU KNOW, IF HE NEEDS FIVE TASERS OR TWO TASERS OR ONE I SAYING IT NEEDS, IT NEEDS TO BE IN HERE SO THAT YOU CONSIST, YOU, YOU CAN HISTORICALLY GO BACK AND SEE NEEDS. WHAT I'M SAYING IS IT CAN BE AT THE SAME SPOT, YOU KNOW, SO WELL KNOW WHAT THE PRICE IS. WELL, I MEAN, WE KNOW WHAT THE PRICE IS ANYWAY, WHEN HE BID IT OUT, HE CAN BID 'EM ALL OUT. YEAH. 'CAUSE ONE OF THE BIGGEST, WE'RE GETTING A QUOTE NOW TO SPEAK, SO. OKAY. AND ONE OF THE BIG ISSUES IS THAT IF WE DO NEED SOMETHING LIKE THE, THE NOTEBOOKS AND STUFF LIKE THAT AND THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT WAS GIVING THEM OUT, WE WERE GOING TO THEM, WE'RE BASICALLY THE LAST ONCE TO GET, IT GOES TO EVERYBODY ELSE FIRST BEFORE IT GETS HANDED DOWN TO US. AND SO IT, IT TAKES A LONG TIME. THE NOTEBOOKS WILL, THE NOTEPADS, THE LAPTOPS AND STUFF WENT FROM LAPTOPS AND NOTEBOOKS AND NOW THEY'RE GOING BACK TO LAPTOPS AGAIN. WHAT ABOUT THE TICKET WRITERS? Y'ALL WE'RE THE ONLY ONES THAT HAVE THE TICKET WRITERS. JUST THE CONSTABLE'S OFFICE. SHERIFF'S OFFICE DOES NOT HAVE THOSE. OKAY. UM, THE TICKET RIDERS AND THE PRINTERS THEMSELVES. SO, UH, I THINK THE TWO COMMERCIAL VEHICLE OFFICERS MAY HAVE THEM. I THINK THEY, I THINK THEY, THEY DID, YES. THEY WERE GETTING 'EM, UH, BECAUSE THEY FILED THE TICKETS IN THE JP COURT. RIGHT. OKAY. AND UH, DID YOU FIND THE MONEY? IS THAT THE YES SIR. I WAS WAITING. GO AHEAD, JUDGE. OKAY, WELL I'M JUST WONDERING ON THIS LAST LINE, SO JASON CAN GET ON TO HIS TRAINING, UH, THE NEW EQUIPMENT, IS THAT, WHAT WE'RE THAT WAS FOR, TO REPLACE THE THREE TASERS THAT WE HAVE AND PLUS TO ORDER BODY CAM. OKAY. THAT'S ENOUGH TO COVER ON IT. THAT SHOULD BE ENOUGH TO COVER. YES, SIR. I, I, WE TRACKED DOWN THE CHEAPEST PRICE TO GET THE TASERS, WHICH ARE COLORED IN YELLOW SO THAT WAY THERE'S NO UNCLARITY, WHETHER YOU'VE DRAWN A LESS LEAK OR YOU'VE DRAW YOUR FIREARM. JOHN DOESN'T HAVE ONE NOW AND YOURS IS BREAKING AND WE DON'T HAVE, JOHN HAS ONE THAT'S LONGED FROM ANOTHER. I KNOW, BUT IF WE BREAK IT, THEN WE'RE GONNA HOLD THEM ONE. EXACTLY. AND THEN I HAVE TWO THERE, PAPERWEIGHTS. OKAY, YOU'RE GOOD. WE GET THE YEAH, I'VE ALREADY SENT LEAST A MESSAGE. YOU'RE GONNA CALL GT TO GET QUOTE ON FULLY EQUIPPED WITH THE WHOLE, WHICH IS THE SAME TAKE BACK. WE COULD COME BACK AND SAY, DO WHAT WE DO BECAUSE YOU DON'T NEED TO BE WITHOUT THEM. I MEAN, I WHAT MONEY I HAVE LEFT. I CAN ORDER ONE RIGHT NOW IF I NEEDED TO. WELL, THAT'D BE, YOU KNOW, YOU GOT THE MONEY. I THINK, UH, UH, I SPENT 35 I THINK, UH, THE TASER WITH THE HOLSTER, EVERYTHING WAS RIGHT AT ABOUT, UH, 1289 AND WE'LL FIND THAT A MINUTE. AND DID YOU GET THE MONEY ON THE, OKAY, LAST YEAR WE GOT ABOUT 43,400 IN, IN THE EMISSIONS GRANT. MM-HMM . $37,228 WENT TO BRIAN'S SALARY AND BENEFITS. THE REST OF IT WAS FOR PARTS REPAIRS, GAS, OIL, UNIFORMS AND EQUIPMENT. UH, SO HOW EASY IT ALL, WELL, I, UH, WE BUDGETED 14,000 FOR THIS YEAR AND THEN WE HAD A CARRYOVER BECAUSE WE GOT LIKE 70,000 FROM, FROM THAT GRANT THAT HE DID NOT SPEND ALL OF IT. SO WE HAVE LIKE 12, 20,000, 9 0 5 TO CARRY OVER. SO WE HAD A TOTAL OF LIKE 35,000 THAT HE COULD ACTUALLY SPEND THIS YEAR. AND SO WHAT WILL BASICALLY GET TO CARRY OVER WHAT WILL BE THE SOON HE'S STAYING OVER NOW, RIGHT? 35. 35,000. YEAH. THE ONLY THING THAT, UH, POSSIBLE, I THINK HE SAID HE SPENT, HE, HE HAS 35,000. OH HE HAS 35 AND UH, BRIAN HAS ALREADY SPENT 53 40. SO HE'LL HAVE ABOUT 20, UH, 30 TO CARRY OVER IF NOTHING ELSE IS COMING IN. OH, OKAY. BUT I THINK THERE'S A DEADLINE ON HAVING TO SPEND THAT TOO. YES, I KNOW THERE IS. WELL, AND I DON'T KNOW HOW LONG THIS GRANT FOR IF RIGHT. UH, PAM KNOWS IF THERE'S ADDITIONAL REVENUES COMING, WHATEVER DEADLINE IS. [02:40:04] YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. I MEAN SHE'S ALREADY GOTTEN ALL THE PAPERWORK READY TO TRANSFER. WHAT EQUIPMENT WAS TO THAT POSITION OVER TO MY OFFICE. JUST NEEDS TO BE DONE. JUST NEEDS TO BE DONE. AND THE ONLY THING THAT I SPOKE WITH CONSTABLE MORRIS, THE ONLY THING HE'S WAITING ON IS FOR ME TO HIRE KITCHENS, WHICH I PLAN ON TRYING TO DO THIS WEEK OR BRING IT TO YOU TO BRING HIM ON AS A RESERVE ONCE I FINISH THE BACKGROUND. YEAH. OKAY. OKAY. YOU NEED ANYTHING ELSE? THANK YOU VERY MUCH. GO BACK, SEE WHAT YOU LEARNED ABOUT THOSE. DON'T LEMME BACK IN. BACK WHERE? UH, RIGHT OVER HERE OFF OF 34. UM, THE NEW TRAINING CENTER THEY'RE HOLDING, THEY'RE TRYING TO HOLD ALL THE NEW TRAINING DOWN AT THE OFFICE. I FIGURED THAT UP. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, NEXT IS, UH, BREAK BEHIND IN THE HALLWAY IS CHECKING ON THE VEHICLE STATUS FROM THE CONS. ONE CONS, SORRY TO KEEP YOU WAITING. WE GOT THE LONG WINDED ON SOME STUFF. SO I THINK WE HAVE UH, HIS DOCUMENTATION THAT HE NARRATIVE THAT HE SENT. AND UH, SO THIS IS MOVE RIGHT ON TO THE BUDGET AND UH, LOOKS LIKE EVERYTHING IS PRETTY WELL, UH, SAME. UH, WE GET DOWN TO RYAN 32 16, WHICH IS PARTS AND REPAIRS. AND UH, I THINK THAT YOU MIGHT BE GONNA TELL US ABOUT THAT ON ALL THE, I'VE GOT 2005 GRAND MILES THOUSAND NINE, 80,000. I DON'T THINK THAT'S, WELL I KNOW THAT'S NOT CORRECT. THE DOESN'T WORK GOING BACK THROUGH THE, WITHOUT GOING THROUGH THE FUEL STUFF AND KIND OF FIGURING WHERE WE'RE AT ON THAT. THAT'S JUST WHAT IT SHOWS WHEN IT DOES COME UP. RIGHT. UH, SO YOU HAVE A 2008, THE 2005 AND 2008 2009 AND ONE OF 'EM HAS, THE 2005 HAS A HUNDRED SEVENTY ONE EIGHT SIXTY FIVE. OKAY. AND THEN THE OTHER ONE HAS THE 2009 HAS, IT'S SHOWING 182 BUT IT'S NOT CORRECT. RIGHT. IT IT'S LOWER THAN THAT. I JUST, I DON'T HAVE THE FUEL MAN UP. ALRIGHT. THEN YOU HAVE A TILE, YOU HAVE ONE ONE. YEAH. ONE TILE AND NO FAIR CAR, UH, ON THE VEHICLE. WHAT WE'RE DOING IS JUST KIND OF TAKING A LIST AND SEE WHERE WE ARE ON THOSE. OKAY. AND UH, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY THESE ARE PRETTY OLD CARS, A LOT, A LOT MILES ON THEM. RIGHT. AND UH, SO, UH, THAT'S SOMETHING WE'LL BE LOOKING AT. AND THAT'S THE REASONABLY FAST FOR INCREASED, UH, PARTS OF REPAIRS. YES. CAUSE OF YES. IF THEY DON'T GET REPLACED. RIGHT. BECAUSE I'VE HAD TO REPLACE TRANSMISSION IN ONE OF THEM THIS YEAR, LAST YEAR. UH, FRONT END HAD TO HAD SOME WORK DONE ON ONE OF THEM. UH, THEY'RE STARTING TO SHOW SOMEWHERE IN THERE. YEAH. ONE OF BROWN. NO, THEY LOOKED GREAT. I SEEN ONE OF THEM OUT ON HIGHWAY 80 SATURDAY MORNING. THAT'S BAD. THAT MIGHT ON SATURDAY. MIGHT HAVE BEEN ONE SATURDAY. BUT HE'S DRIVING A GREAT BROWN. DEPENDING ON, HE'S PRETTY FAITHFUL. I MEAN HE'S OUT THERE PRETTY OFTEN. OKAY. DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT? DEPENDING ON WHAT WE WERE ABLE TO DO WITH A VEHICLE REQUEST, WE CHANGE THAT UP. YEAH. AND UH, WHAT ABOUT YOUR GAS AND OIL? UH, THING, WE, WE TALKED ABOUT THIS WITH SEVERAL. THE MAN CAR SEEMS TO BE WORKING PRETTY GOOD AS WELL AS THE FACT THAT PRICE YEAH, THE PRICE OF UH, FUEL IS DOWN A BIT TOO. CUT BACK ON SOME OF THOSE [02:45:01] 11 MUNITIONS ALREADY AT 1,002 50. ANOTHER RESERVE SUPPOSED TO BE COMING ON FIVE. SO 10,000 ON THE GAS AND ALL. YEAH. AND THOUSAND STILL ON AMMUNITION. 10 OR YOU FIVE SAID 10 DIDN'T YOU GOT FOUR? ANOTHER RESERVE FIXING. SO YOU NEED 1250. YEAH, 1250 ON AMMUNITION. OKAY. THAT'S NOT GOOD. HOW WE KNOW YOU WON'T RUN OUT. YEAH. IF YOU DO'S YOUR FAULT, THE UNIFORM 25, 1500 OVER HERE, YOU TRYING TO CUT IT DOWN. YES. YEAH. THAT, THAT INITIAL 25 IS WHAT I ASKED FOR WHEN I CAME INTO OFFICE BECAUSE WE WERE CHANGING UNIFORMS AND UH, EVERYBODY'S PRETTY MUCH UP TO PAR WHERE THEY NEED TO BE NOW. SO I'M ASKING TO LOWER THAT TO, TO 1500 TO BE WITH EVERYBODY ELSE WHERE THEY'RE AT ON THEIR BUDGET. LOT OF THEM ARE GOING UP, MASKS GOING UP. SO YEAH. 1500 FINE. 1500 SIR. I MEAN I'M ARGUE WITH YOU. YEP. I SHOULD BE FINE. AND THEN ON FURNITURE AND EQUIPMENT YOU'RE ASKING FOR SIX AND WE HAD THREE I BELIEVE. YES SIR. AND, AND THE REASON THAT I'M ASKING FOR THAT IS, YOU KNOW, HERE'S HERE'S FOR THOSE OF Y'ALL THAT HAVEN'T BEEN IN MY DEPUTY'S OFFICE, THERE'S A PHOTO OF IT. UH, IT'S LIKE A BROOM CLOSET. THERE'S ONLY ONE DESK THAT'S WORKABLE FOR A DEPUTY TO BE AT. UH, THE OTHER DESK IS FALLING APART. THAT'S IN THE CORNER OVER THERE AT FELL APARTMENT. IT GOT DELIVERED. IT'S ACTUALLY SCREWED TO THE WALL OVERHEAD UP. UH, WE'RE DOING UH, SOME REMODELING OVER THERE RIGHT NOW. THEY'RE REMOVING A WALL BETWEEN THAT OFFICE AND THE HALLWAY TO EXPAND THAT OFFICE. AND I'M ASKING TO GET TWO OF THE, UH, OFFICE CUBICLES. I'LL HAVE A COMPUTER ON EACH ONE. SO WE'LL HAVE TWO WORKABLE STATIONS BECAUSE AT TIMES I'VE GOT TWO TO THREE DEPUTIES IN THERE. BUT THE AMOUNT OF PAPERWORK THEY'VE GOT WITH THE CIVIL AND THE CRIMINAL STUFF THAT WE DO, THEY'RE SITTING THERE WAITING TO GET ON A COMPUTER. THEY END UP HAVING TO WORK OVER TO GET THE PAPERWORK DONE TO DO IT. SO WE'RE ASKING FOR THE 6,000. THAT SHOULD BE PLENTY MORE THAN PLENTY TO PUT TWO CUBICLES IN AND UH, ANOTHER COMPUTER. WHAT WE'RE DOING ON THE FURNITURE AND EQUIPMENT, WE'RE UH, PROBABLY GOING TO ELIMINATE THOSE, UH, LINE ITEMS. ITEMS. AND UH, WE'VE ALREADY DONE THAT TO SOME EXTENT WITH, THERE WERE OTHER AREAS OF THE BUDGET AND SO WE'RE, I MEAN WE'RE GONNA HAVE MONEY AND WE'RE JUST UNDECIDED EXACTLY HOW WE'RE GONNA DO THAT. OKAY. BUT IT PROBABLY WOULD NOT BE IN EACH INDIVIDUAL, UH, UH, COUNTY BUDGET. IT'LL BE SO, BUT IT, WE DO NEED TO KNOW WHAT YOU NEED AND UH, SO YEAH, I'M JUST ASKING FOR SOMETHING COMPATIBLE TO LIKE WHAT THEY'VE GOT IN CID. YEAH. YOU KNOW, IT'S A LITTLE WORK CUBICLE WITH A STORAGE COMPARTMENT. GUYS HAVE OFFICE. VERY EXPENSIVE. I MEAN THEY'RE NOT, THEY'RE NOT THAT EXPENSIVE. I, I DON'T THINK, I MEAN THE ONES THAT I LOOKED AT, JUST INTERNAL OFFICE SUPPLY, I THINK FOR ABOUT 6,000 WE CAN PUT TWO CUBICLES IN WITH THE FOUR OVERHEAD LOCK AND BINS. SO EACH ONE OF THE DEPUTIES WOULD'VE A PLACE TO STORE SOME OF THEIR STUFF IF THEY NEED TO. UH, IF I FIGURED IT WRAPPED AND ABOUT $6,000 OUGHT TO BE ABLE TO GET ALL OF THAT DONE. AND AND THE COMPUTER TOO. AND UH, THAT WAS THAT OTHER THING. EQUIPMENT, WHAT WE DO ON EQUIPMENT, UH, WHAT WE SAY WE DID ON EQUIPMENT WITH THE OTHER GUYS OR JUST, WELL THEY KIND HAVE REQUESTS, YOU KNOW WHAT, WHAT KIND OF EQUIPMENT? EVERYBODY HAD SOMETHING. EVERYBODY HAD A DIFFERENT NEEDS. ONE VEST, YOU KNOW BEST Y'ALL ALL HAVE VEST. YES. THEY YOU AROUND WHEN WE'VE GOT ONE TABLE, MY PARTTIME DOESN'T HAVE ONE. YOU SOME RESERVES. I DON'T CARRY ONE CARRY. NO, DON'T MAKE SURE. OKAY. I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH IT. BUT YOU KNOW, IF YOU PREFER IT THEN WANT THEN THAT'S ANOTHER THING. YEAH. I JUST DON'T THINK YOU OUGHT BE WITHOUT ANY KIND OF SAFETY EQUIPMENT YOU NEED. I MEAN WE CAN GET ANOTHER TAS ONE MORE WOULD BE GREAT. THAT WAY MY FULLTIME PART-TIME HAVE ONE. YOU HAVE TO USE IT ON YOURSELF BEFORE YOU CAN USE IT ALL. THAT'S WHAT THEY SAY . THAT'S REASON THEY DIDN'T WANNA CARRY ONE BECAUSE SHERIFF'S OFFICE AND THEY WENT TO THE TASERS. EVERYBODY WAS ORDERED TO GET SHOT. MM-HMM BUT CID DIDN'T GET TASERS. WELL I'M NOT GOING GO GET SHOT JUST [02:50:01] FOR THE PHONE. IT DOESN'T SOUND LIKE FUN. SO I SAID WHEN Y'ALL GET ME A TASER, I'LL BE HAPPY TO DO A COOKING CLASS AND GET SHOT. SO NO, I HAVEN'T BEEN SHOT BY ONE. I DON'T HAVE ONE. IF I HAD ONE I'D GET SHOT WITH ONE, BUT I DON'T HAVE ONE. DOES YOUR DEPUTY NOT WANT ONE? I HAVEN'T ASKED FOR. I MEAN, IF WE CAN GET ONE, IF HE HADN'T BEEN TO SCHOOL, I'LL SEND HIM TO SCHOOL. WELL WE WANT TO GIVE EVERYBODY WHAT THEY WANT TO USE. YOU KNOW, WE DON'T, WE DON'T WANT FOR ANY REASON TO SAY THAT THE COUNTY DIDN'T APPROACH PROVIDE THE EQUIPMENT THAT THEY REQUESTED YOU. WELL, I MEAN I WOULD LIKE FOR EM TO HAVE ONE BECAUSE WE DEAL WITH A LOT OF S BUT INMATES STATE HOSPITAL AND EVERYTHING OVER, THERE'S, I WOULD LIKE TO ADD ONE. GET PRICE BACK YET. NO SIR. IT MAY TAKE A WHILE BUT WE, WE'LL GET, I'LL TELL YOU WHAT, WE'LL WORK ON GETTING YOU ONE. WE'VE GOT OTHER REQUEST WE'RE WE GOT OTHER REQUESTS FOR IT. WE'RE GONNA WORK ON THIS TO GET THIS TASER THING STRAIGHTENED OUT AND MAKE SURE EVERYBODY HAS WHAT THEY NEED IN THEIR, IN THEIR, WE'RE GONNA DO A LITTLE DIFFERENT. SO THAT'S GONNA BE A WHOLE DIFFERENT HUNDRED THOUSAND FOR EQUIPMENT JUST SO HE HAS. YEAH. YEAH. YOU NEVER KNOW WHEN HE'S GONNA HAVE A SOMETHING OUT ON THE VEHICLE. THIS THIS 1700 THAT YOU SPENT ON THE FURNITURE EQUIPMENT THIS YEAR IS, WAS THAT UH, UM, ON FURNITURE OR EQUIPMENT SIDE OR DO YOU HAD ANY? ONE WAS A SHOTGUN AND AN AR AND THEN I GOT UH, THREE CHAIRS. OKAY, SO YOU'RE NOT GONNA HAVE TO REPLACE A SHOTGUN OR AR SO NO. OR PROBABLY OR THE CHAIRS. NO, THE ONLY THING IS IF WE END UP GETTING A NEW TAHOE, THE ONLY THING THAT I WOULD PROBABLY WANT TO ADD TO THE TAHOE THAT DIDN'T COME IN THE ONE I GOT IS A GUN RACK THAT GOES IN BETWEEN THE FRONT SEAT. WHAT? THREE OR 400? NO. ARE WE ORDERING THOSE JACK WHEN WE ORDER THE TAHOES NOW? GUN BACK. THE GUN WRECKS HADN'T BEEN. NO SIR. OKAY. IT'S KIND OF WHATEVER THEIR PREFERENCE IS, WHATEVER KIND THEY WANT. I WANNA SAY IT WAS ABOUT 800 WASN'T THEY'RE PRETTY HIGH ON THAT ONE. THEY'RE PRETTY HIGH BECAUSE THEY'RE ELECTRONIC LOCK. SO IF THEY BREAK INTO THE CAR, THEY STILL CAN'T GET IT OUT. AND THAT'S THE SAME ONES IN TAHOE. I KNOW IF ANY OTHER, WE PUT A THOUSAND IN THERE THAT THAT SHOULD COVER ANYTHING ELSE. UH, BONDS FROM 400 TO 500. YEAH, THAT'S OKAY. AND THE ONLY OTHER THING THAT I ASKED FOR IS, UH, A MEDICAL FUND. OKAY. AND I'M ASKING THAT THAT BE SET UP POSSIBLY WITH HR OR SOMETHING BECAUSE IF, IF WE HAVE A NEW HIRE OR HAVE A DEPUTY THAT QUITS OR PUT A RESERVE ON OR SOMEBODY THAT UH, HAS MORE THAN 160 DAYS LEAVE, THEY'VE GOTTA GO BACK AND HAVE A PSYCHOLOGICAL. BUT WE HAVE NO FUND, NO LINE ITEM OR ANYTHING SET UP IN ORDER FOR US TO DO THAT. MY UNDERSTANDING, THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE HAS A MEDICAL FUND THAT PSYCHOLOGICAL AND IT COMES OUT OF THERE AND I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH IT. THE SCHEDULING OR NOTHING. WELL, CAN I ASK A QUESTION ON THAT? MM-HMM . I MEAN THE, THE UH, PSYCHOLOGICAL, DO THEY HAVE TO GO A CERTAIN PLACE OR DOES IT JUST HAVE TO BE BY A DOCTOR? THAT CERTIFIED DOCTOR. THERE'S ONE HERE IN KAUFMAN THAT I WAS GONNA SAY ARE THEY, HOW ARE THEY CERTIFIED? I WAS WONDERING IF THE DOCTOR THAT WORKS FOR US, I WONDER IF HE CAN BE CERTIFIED TO DO THAT. DAVIS. I DUNNO, I DON'T KNOW. THERE'S, I WISH SOMEBODY ASKED THIS OUTTA CURIOSITY BECAUSE HE COULD, THAT'D BE BANK, YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? THEN IT WOULDN'T, IT WOULDN'T BE A COST FACTOR NOR IS THERE ANY REASON WHY THAT DOES NOT GO THROUGH YOUR OFFICE? UM, NO I, NO, THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE HAS ALWAYS, THEY'RE THE ONLY ONES THAT EVER DO IT. I DON'T DO IT FOR OTHER EMPLOYEES. THEY EVEN, THEIR DRUG TESTING GOES THROUGH THEM. THEY USE MY FACILITY, THE SAME PEOPLE WE USE FOR OTHER HIRES. BUT WHEN WE DO THE BILL, I SEND THE BILL OVER TO BRIAN BEAVERS AND HE RECONCILES THE SHERIFF'S PART OF IT AND THEN IT'S PAID OUT OF THEIR SEPARATE FUND OUT OF THEIR BUDGET. MM-HMM. THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE WANTING TO AND WELL THE ONLY REASON I WAS ASKING THAT IS BECAUSE, I MEAN $500 I THINK WOULD BE MORE THAN ENOUGH TO COVER ALL FOUR OFFICES. WELL, AND I DON'T MIND IT. I MEAN I DON'T MIND USING OUR FUNDS FOR THAT. WE JUST, WE WOULD HAVE TO SAY DRUG TESTS AND PSYCHOLOGICAL, BUT I MEAN I DON'T MIND BECAUSE IT WOULD JUST BE FOR THE, I HAVE HUNDRED THAT I CAN TRANSFER TO SOMETHING ELSE LATER ON. IT. IT'S ONE, ONE TEST IS LIKE $49 OR I'M NOT, I JUST GOT AN INVOICE FOR, BECAUSE THERE WAS, WE RECENTLY HAD TO DO ONE ON UM, AN INVESTIGATOR IN THE DA'S OFFICE AND I TOLD 'EM I DON'T HAVE FUND FOR THAT. THEY WOULD HAVE TO PAY IT OUT OF THEIRS. AND I DIDN'T SEE WHAT THE INVOICE WAS, BUT I CAN GO RUN A CHECK [02:55:03] AND WE CAN CHECK THERE MAY BE SOME SPECIAL CERTIFICATION. THE DOCTOR, HE EXAMINES INMATES. THAT'S WHAT HE DOES. SO HE MAY NOT BE ABLE TO DO OUR COUNTY PEOPLE BECAUSE HE WORKS AS LONG AS HE MEETS THE REQUIREMENTS. I DON'T HAVE A, I'M JUST ASKING, I WAS JUST CURIOUS TO KNOW IF WE DO IT. I JUST FIND YEAH, BUT WHY DON'T WE DO THIS TIME BEING, WHY DON'T WE START LETTING THROUGH HR, THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE IS WORKING FINE, WE'LL JUST LET THEM KEEP DOING IT. BUT ON THE CONSTABLES, UH, THAT AND MAYBE FIRE MARSHAL AND WELL, AND I JUST HAD TO DO ONE ON THE DA'S OFFICE, UM, FOR AN INVESTIGATOR AND IT'S ONLY IF THEY'RE OUT SO LONG, OUT SO LONG USUALLY WHERE THEY DON'T HAVE VERY RARE, A LOT WOULD DA LOGICAL OR A LEGITIMATE AMOUNT TO PUT IN THERE FOR THE CONSTABLES AS WELL AS, LIKE I SAID, IN THE THREE YEARS I'VE BEEN HERE, THERE'S BEEN DUKE ONE FOR YOU, ONE FOR THE DAS. I THINK I'M PRETTY CONFIDENT THE ONE THAT WE DID HERE IN KAUFMAN LAST WEEK OR TWO AGO, 49. I CAN GO CHECK. BUT IS EVERYBODY THAT WE WON'T HAVE. RIGHT? YEAH. AND THAT'S WHY ON THAT, THAT I ASKED FOR, I EVEN STATED IN, I WAS ASKING FOR, IT'S GONNA BE HARD BUDGET FOR YOU. SOMEBODY. HUNDRED $33. IT'S DONE BY A DOCTOR HERE IN, WE PUT 500 IN ATLANTA. WHERE YOU WOULD YOU HAVE UH, JOANNE RADKE. R-A-D-E-K-E. RADKE. ALRIGHT. YEAH, SHE'S RIGHT HERE IN YEAH. DRIVE. YEAH, I'VE SEEN HER OFFICE. I THINK IT'S OUT ON 1 75. YEAH. MILLENNIUM DRIVE. SUITE D. OKAY. ANYTHING ELSE FOR CONFERENCE STATEMENT? WE GOOD. DON'T ASK, ASK POSITION. WE GOT ABOUT FIVE STANDING TIME. THAT'S 1.5. WE DON'T HAVE WORK MANPOWER THAT I, AND WE'VE HEARD THAT FROM THE OTHER UH, PRECINCTS. SO WHAT IS A GOOD WAY TO HANDLE THAT OTHER THAN ADDING, YOU KNOW, ADDITIONAL CONSTABLE ON EACH LEVEL AT EACH PRE? IS THERE A WAY WE COULD, I MEAN WHY IS THERE ANOTHER WAY? I WONDER HOW WE COULD DO THAT. I MEAN THAT'S A LOT OF MONEY OUT THERE BUT UH, AND NOT SOME OF 'EM YOU WANNA GET BECAUSE YOU CAN'T FIND THEM TOO. YOU KNOW, IS THERE ANOTHER WAY WE COULD ADDRESS THAT? PROBABLY SOME THINGS TO THINK ABOUT, ABOUT MAYBE MIGHT BE ABLE TO, YOU HIRE SOME RETIRED PERCENTAGE YOU CAN'T PAY ON PERCENTAGE. MAYBE THAT, THAT SOMETHING GUYS COULD TALK TOGETHER AS A GROUP AND SEE IF THERE'S SOMETHING WE CAN DO THAT YOU MIGHT, YOU MIGHT BE ABLE FOR GUYS THAT NEED TO KEEP UP THEIR LICENSE. YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO ADVERTISE AND GET RESERVE JUST TO COME WORK ONE DAY A WEEK TO DO THAT FOR FREE. AGAIN, WE DON'T HAVE CARS FOR THAT. DON'T HAVE WHAT? WE DON'T HAVE THE VEHICLES FOR THAT. BUT I MEANT IF WE HAD THE VEHICLE, YOU KNOW, INSTEAD OF PAYING FOR TI DON'T MIND PUTTING, THERE'S, THERE'S A HUNDRED CARS OVER HERE THAT'S A BIG LIST. CARS NOT BEING USED. SO I THINK WE COULD FIND A CAR IF WE HAD TO. GOOD IDEA. YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? I'VE GOT TWO GUYS RIDING THE COURT TOGETHER AND I NEED AN ANSWER. I NEED SOME HELP. LORI HAS TWO BILLS FOR PSYCH PSYCH EVALUATION. NOW WE NEED TO PAY AND I'M GOING TO DO A LINE ITEM TRANSFER REQUEST TO PUT SOME MONEY AND ESTABLISH A NEW LINE ITEM FOR THAT IN HER BUDGET. IN HER BUDGET. OKAY. AND I'M GONNA PUT 600 INSTEAD OF 500. 'CAUSE IF THEY'RE LIKE, IF THEY'RE RUNNING LIKE A HUNDRED THIRTY, THREE HUNDRED THIRTY NINE, WHAT IF THAT DOCTOR'S NOT THERE AND WE HAVE TO GO USE SOMEBODY ELSE FOUR EXAM. THAT'D BE FOR FOUR EXAMS. FIND OUT WE HAVE TO HAVE MARK. I COULD COME BACK AND BRING IT TO Y'ALL AND SHE CAN GIVE YOU A REPORT ON HOW MANY SHE'S HAVING TO DO OR SOMETHING. SOUNDS GOOD. THAT WORK? THAT WORKS. OKAY. THAT WORKS. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, THANKS SIR. THANK Y'ALL. APPRECIATE IT HERE. DID YOU UH, JUST, DID Y'ALL'S DEPARTMENT PARTICIPATE IN THAT WARRANTS ROUNDUP? WE, WE DID NOT PHYSICALLY COME OUT. NO. I MEAN IT, [03:00:01] IT NORMALLY JUST NORMALLY DOESN'T PAY ITSELF HERE AND THE WARRANTS OUT AND WORK IT AND THE REVENUES OUT OUR OFFICE ON THE SAME THING BECAUSE BY THE TIME YOU COME OUT THAT WE, YOU KNOW, I KNOW I DIDN'T, I'M NOT SURE THANK MUCH APPRECIATE IT ON PROBLEM MOVE ALONG BUT WE'RE GOOD THERE AND I BELIEVE YOU'VE GIVEN US YOUR WE, THE NARRATIVE PART WHERE THE JUSTIFICATION IS, IS AT THE BOTTOM EVERY AND UH, YOU'RE UH, SAYING NO CHANGE ON EVERYTHING PRETTY WELL WHERE YOU ARE. BUT YOU DO HAVE KIND OF A WISH LIST I GUESS DOWN BOTTOM. YEAH, I ASKED FOR A ONE FULL TIME OFFICER. AND FOR THE OFFICER I BELIEVE I'VE GOT ENOUGH IN MY BUDGET AND UH, ASSET FOR FUND THAT I CAN OUTFIT THE OFFICER AND TAKE CARE OF THAT JUST, I MEAN SURE SIZE ALONG THE PRECINCT. FOUR REQUIRES AN ADDITIONAL BODY DOWN THERE. I'M NOT COVERING FOR PRECINCT TWO. COMMISSIONER ALLEN NOT HAVING THE SAME AMOUNT OF PEOPLE AS COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS JUST, WE GOT OUR AREA TO COVER AND FEEL PROPER. ANOTHER FULL TIME OFFICER AND I WROTE IN THERE I NEVER HAD BEFORE. I'VE NEVER MENTIONED ANOTHER OFFICE AND I'M NOT THROWING STONES IN ANOTHER OFFICE. BUT I PUT IN THERE AND IT'S ALL NUMBERS THAT YOU CAN PULL FROM THE DA'S OFFICE OR WHEN I GIVE MY RACIAL PROFILE AND STATS, UH, IT'S ALL IN NUMBERS. YOU CAN GO AND LOOK AT YEAR IN AND YEAR OUT. SINCE I TOOK OFFICE IN 2009, WE'VE MADE MORE ARRESTS, FILED MORE CRIMINAL CASES AND MADE MORE TRAFFIC CONTACTS THAN THE OTHER THREE OFFICERS COMBINED YEAR IN AND YEAR OUT. SO I DON'T HAVE THAT'S THAT'S ALL I REALLY HAVE TO ADD. AND SUCH YOU'VE ALREADY GOT EXTRA VEHICLES DON'T YOU? I'VE GOT TWO AND I'M PUSHING TO, IF JOHNSON CAN GET THIS MAN HIRED THAT WAS WORKING AT DALLAS COUNTY, I TOLD HIM I'D GIVE HIM ONE OF MY VEHICLES AND IF KEITH NEEDS EXTRA VEHICLE I'LL EVEN ANOTHER, I'M TIRED OF PAYING HIM FOR CARS TO SIT AROUND THAT ARE JUST OLD AND WOR OUT. IF I GOT A RESERVE THAT NEEDS TO DO SOMETHING, YOU CAN COME GET ONE OF OUR OLD WHAT DO YOU, WHAT DO YOU HAVE? I'VE GOT AN OLD IMPALA AND AN OLD CROWN VIC AND GIVE US A LITTLE INFORMATION ABOUT, I MEAN MY, I MEAN MY, I HAVE TO CHECK SHIRT. OKAY. I'M TIRED SPENDING MONEY ON COST LOT THE MONEY TOO. ABSOLUTELY THEY DO. WHEN YOU HAVING TO BUY BATTERIES 'CAUSE THEY SIT THERE, THEY'RE JUST, THEY'RE OLD. YOU KNOW, JUST LIKE THE OLD EQUIPMENT THAT Y'ALL HAVE AT THE PRECINCT BOX, YOU KNOW, YOU TIRED OF SITTING AROUND HAVING WORK ON IT EVERY TIME YOU WANT USE IT. SO I DON'T LIKE HAVING IT AT MY HOUSE AND SENSE ME, KEEP USING IT DOWN THERE AND WHEN WE NEED TO USE IT. YOU GOTTA PAY TO WORK ON IT AND JUST WELL ARE THEY APPLICABLE? I MEAN IF SOMEBODY WOULD USE IT EVERY DAY AND MAINTAIN IT EVERY DAY, I'M SURE THEY WOULD BE FINE FOR SOMEBODY BUT THEY'RE LIKE ANYTHING ELSE THAT GETS ROTATED OUT THAT GETS USED FOR AN EXTRA CAR, AN EXTRA, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW YOU GOT AN OLD TRACTOR YOU DON'T USE BUT TO HAY WITH AND GET IT UP ONCE A YEAR. YOU SPEND THE FIRST MONTH GETTING IT WORKING RIGHT AGAIN. SO IT'S, DON'T EVEN TALK TO ME ABOUT THAT. YOU KNOW, SAME THING. WELL I SHOULD SAID YOU BROUGHT IT UP. I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. YEAH, THAT THAT WHERE YOU OUT TWO DAYS. IF JOHNSON GET THAT MAN HIRED, HE'S THE ONE THAT I LOOKED AT INITIALLY THAT GRAND DALLAS COUNTY DEAL. BUT I, YOU KNOW, I'M SURE THEY BROUGHT Y'ALL THE NUMBERS. SHE PRINTED IT OFF. WHAT WE GOT THIS YEAR WAS A LITTLE OVER $4,000. I CAN TELL YOU GUYS IT'S NOT WORTH MY HEADACHE DEALING WITH DPS WITH ALL THE REPORTS FOR $4,000 A YEAR. I'M NOT GONNA DO IT. THEY WANT TO RELEASE MORE FUNDS. I THINK IT'S A GREAT IDEA. SOMEBODY NEEDS TO DO IT. YEAH BECAUSE THAT'S JUST MONEY THAT THE COUNTY, EVERYBODY IN HERE THAT GETS A VEHICLE REGISTERED OR INSPECTED, IT'S THIS IS A MISSIONS COUNTY WE'RE PAYING TO HAVE IT DONE. YEAH. RIGHT. AND YOU KNOW THE STATE USES THAT MONEY TO BALANCE THEIR BUDGET IS WHAT THEY DO. THERE'S $250 MILLION IN THAT ACCOUNT, WHICH I LIKE THE INSURANCE BUSINESS WHERE IT'S PAID FOR ON THE UH UH, THESE AUTO AUTO TASK FORCE ON THE AUTO THEFT TASK FORCE. SAME DEAL. THAT'S MONEY THAT CHARGE CAN PAY IT OUT JUST LIKE THE 9 1 1 SYSTEM. IT'S ONE OF THOSE ACCOUNTS THAT SET DOWN THERE THAT THEY USE TO BALANCE THE PLACE. SO THERE'S NOTHING WE CAN DO ABOUT IT UNLESS THEY TURN WE UNDER. WE DO. I MEAN THERE ARE MANY OTHER FUNDS TOO. SURE. ABSOLUTELY. LIKE, BUT THAT'S [03:05:01] UH, AND I THINK THEY'RE RELEASING SOME OF THAT. THEY ARE, THEY SAID THEY'RE GONNA RELEASE SOME, I HAVEN'T TALKED, I DON'T, I'M GONNA CALL, I BELIEVE HIS NAME'S LAST NAME'S BROWN UP AT UH, TC OR UH, AT COBB AND TRY AND FIND OUT, YOU KNOW, THE EXACT NUMBERS THAT WE MIGHT RELEASE. THEY MAY NOT EVEN KNOW YOU. AND IF IT'S ENOUGH TO PAY SOMEBODY PART-TIME TO DO IT AND THEY DID AWAY WITH INSPECTION STICKERS. I CAN'T DRIVE DOWN THE, WE CAN'T PATROL AND LOOK AND SAY OH THIS, THIS ONE'S OUT. WE NEED TO STOP TO CHECK IT. NOW YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE A MAN THAT SETS DOWN IN THE FRONT OF THE COMPUTER AND LOOKS AT THAT SCREEN AND YOU GO OVER EVERY CAR THAT'S BEEN INSPECTED AT EVERY STATION IN CALIN COUNTY AND YOU START LOOKING FOR THE SAME TAG TO POP UP MORE THAN ONCE. YEAH. BECAUSE THAT'S WHEN YOU KNOW THERE'S THE ONLY REASON TO GET IT DONE MORE THAN ONCE A YEAR. SO WHEN YOU START SEEING THAT TAG REOCCUR MORE THAN ONCE, YOU KNOW THEY'RE DOING A CLEAN SCAN ON THE VEHICLE THAT WAS EITHER PRIOR TO IT OR RIGHT AFTER. THAT'S TIME CONSUMING AND I'M, I'M NOT UH, I'M NOT A GOOD SECRETARY SO FAR. YOUR HONOR. WHY DON'T WE NEED THE DEPUTY TO SIT AND LOOK AT THE SCREEN. DO THAT. COULDN'T ANYBODY DO THAT? LOOK AT THAT SCREEN. DO THAT. WELL SECRETARY I GUESS. YEAH, I MEAN I MEAN WHEN THEY CAUGHT IT THEY COULD TURN IT OVER TO YOU AND YOU SAY OKAY. RIGHT. AND IT MAY BE ALSO WHAT THE STATE GIVING ACCESS TO SOMEBODY THAT HAVE ACCESS TO THAT PORTHOLE TO LOOK AT. MM-HMM THEY MAY ONLY WANT A COMMISSION. THE OFFICER LOOK AT THAT. WELL I DUNNO THAT'S WHAT I'M ASKING YOU MAY BE RIGHT. THAT MIGHT BE AN TO LOOK AT. YEAH IT CERTAINLY IT'S TIME CONSUM TO LOOK AT AND THEN YOU KNOW, THEN ONCE YOU NEED TO SIGN HOW YOU'RE GONNA WORK THE CASE, YOU'RE GONNA GO RIGHT ON IT. YOU DON'T LIKE WE DID ONE STATION, UH, A YEAR BEFORE LAST AND WE STARTED, WE WROTE WITH 17 CITATIONS AT ONE STATION AND WE KEPT IT AS ALL CLASS C CITATION. THEY'RE STILL, LAST TIME I CHECKED THOSE ARE ALL STILL SITTING IN THE JUSTICE SYSTEM. THEY HAD NOT BEEN RESOLVED. THEY'RE STILL IN THE SYSTEM RIGHT NOW. SEVEN FELONIES AT THE EXXON SYSTEM. WHERE DO THEY GO? WHAT? I DON'T YOU CAN ASK OUR DA'S OFFICE. THEY GO TO THE DA NOW. YES SIR. WELL THEY'LL BE TURNED IN. THEY'RE STILL GONNA HAVE TO BE AN A DA REPRESENT, REPRESENT THE THE DA'S OFFICE. WE TURNED THE CASE IN OUT OF OUR HANDS TO A COURT. SO SO THEY'RE IN THE OFFICE OVER THERE TO YOUR KNOWLEDGE? ABSOLUTELY. THEY'RE THE SEVEN FELONY CASES THAT WE DID AT THE EXXON STATION. I DON'T KNOW IF THEY'VE BEEN EXPOSED TO YET. I HAVEN'T GOT A DISPOSITION POINT ON. THAT'S NOT GOOD. NO SIR. WE SEIZED THE MACHINE. IS IT? NO, I MEAN IF YOU AIR PRODUCTION, IF YOU'RE GOING GETTING THE MONEY, I ASK YOU IF YOU GET THIS AS THEN YOU'RE GOING WANT TO KEEP THIS POSITION, THIS THING DEPENDING ON HOW MUCH MONEY THEY TURN TO LOSE, UH, I THINK IT'D BE A GREAT IDEA IF FOR JOHNSON, IF HE CAN GET THAT GUY PUT ON UP THERE TO LET HIM HAVE IT. HE FEELS PRETTY CONFIDENT I THINK 'CAUSE THAT GUY'S FAMILIAR WITH IT. HE, HE RAN THE TASK FORCE FOR THE, FOR DALLAS COUNTY AND HELPED WRITE CASE LAW AND DEAL WITH LEGISLATION EVERY TIME. HE IS VERY FAMILIAR WITH IT AND I'M NOT, NOR DO I WANT BE, I JUST, WE TOOK THAT UPON OURSELVES BECAUSE THE COUNTY'S SUPPOSED TO LOSE ABOUT $80,000. IT WAS GONNA BE GOOD TO SOMEBODY ELSE. AND I SAID YEAH, WE'LL, WE'LL WE'LL YOU NEED ANOTHER, I STILL WANT KNOW POSITION PROOF WHAT I EXPLAINED RIGHT THERE IN THE NOTE FOR THE SIZE AND, AND WHAT WE'RE DOING. LEMME GO BACK TO WHERE JUST SO WE CAN KIND OF SEE WHERE WE ARE AND, BUT ON THE IMPALA YOU DON'T WHAT YEAR MODEL IS IT? JUDGE? I'D HAVE TO GO BACK. CAN YOU JUST TEXT THAT TO US? I'LL GET, I'LL GET THE, THE YEAR MODEL MILEAGE AND MILE THAT. AND WHAT DOES THAT LEAVE YOU WITH? THAT'LL LEAVE ME WITH THREE TO THREE TAHOES? YES SIR. SO YOU'RE OKAY ON THE VEHICLES? WELL, UNTIL I GET A ANOTHER PERSON. ANOTHER PERSON. SO RIGHT NOW YOU HAVE YOURSELF AND TWO DEPUTIES. I HAVE MYSELF A FULL-TIME DEPUTY AND A PART-TIME DEPUTY. IS THAT THE OFFICER? YES SIR, WE DO. I JUST LOST MY OTHER DALLAS FIRE RESERVE. HE WENT TO WORK FOR CEDARVILLE PART-TIME. OKAY. SO WE, WE LOST UH, HAVING HIM HERE, IT WAS A GOOD HELP JUST BECAUSE HE'S A GOOD OFFICER AND LIKE I SAID, HE'S A PARAMEDIC SO YOU KNOW, A LOT OF TIMES BOTH OF MY PART-TIME GUYS ARE DALLAS FIREMEN WILL RESPOND TO OUR MEDICAL COSTS. LET'S ON ONE OF THESE TOWN HALLS, WAS IT BOUGHT WITH THE GRANT? NO SIR. IT WAS NOT. IT WAS BOUGHT WHENEVER THE LICENSE AND WAY COMMERCIAL VEHICLE WAS DOWN THERE. OKAY. DO THEY ALLOW US TO BUY A VEHICLE WITH THAT MONEY YOU SHOW OF ANY KIND PURCHASE. OKAY. DEPEND ON ON HOW MUCH THERE AND THERE'S MONEY THAT IN THERE. I RUSHED IN. I DON'T 25. I WENT IN THERE TO, BECAUSE I WAS CONCERNED PAM THOUGHT WE WERE GONNA LOSE THE MONEY TOWARDS THE CAMP. SO I HUSTLED TOGETHER AND PUT SOME POS TOGETHER JUST TO SECURE THAT MONEY SO WE WOULDN'T HAVE TO BE GIVING BACK. BUT I'M NOT GONNA SPEND MONEY ON SOMETHING THAT I DON'T NEED. RIGHT. SO, BUT OTHER SIDE OF THAT, IF WE TURN IT BACK, SOMEBODY ELSE SPENDED ON SOMETHING, SOMEBODY WILL, THE ONLY GOOD THING IS, YOU KNOW, IF WE, IF WE PUT IT UP IN PRECINCT TWO AND WE'LL BUY A CAR UP THERE, WE, WE, WE CAN BUY A DODGE AND PAUL, BUT UP THERE IT'S ALL DECENT STREETS. THEY GONNA BE RUNNING AROUND [03:10:01] RUNNING, CHECKING ON IT. WELL IF WE DO STATION'S CROWN, BUT I MEAN HE'S, THIS CAR'S GONNA BE USED. YOU USE ALL COUNTY STILL. IT WON'T BE ON MANY COUNTY ROADS, NO STATION. RIGHT, BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO INSPECTION STATIONS. ALRIGHT. I WOULD SAY, YOU KNOW, IF THAT'S, THAT PERSON'S ONLY JOB IS TO DO THAT. 'CAUSE DPS ACTUALLY USES CIVILIAN EMPLOYEES TO DO THEIR INSPECTION ON THESE. WELL THAT'S I SAYING MAYBE USE, BUT THERE'S STILL, I DON'T KNOW WHAT WHAT TYPE OF CREDENTIALS THEY'RE GOING TO WANT TO LOOK AT THAT PORTAL. BUT YOU'RE RIGHT, THEY DID HAVE A, A FEMALE THAT WOULD MEET US A LOT OF TIMES SHE MET US UP THERE. WE DEALT WITH HER FROM TIME TO TIME. BUT THEN THEY HAVE AN OFFICER, A LIEUTENANT. I THINK THAT WAS OVER. DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA? OF COURSE ALL THIS IS CHANGING ON THE INSPECTION STICKERS AND ALL THAT AND I'M NOT SURE I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND IT YET. IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE SIMPLIFIED. I'M NOT SURE I'M GRASPING. DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA, JUST THE TIME THAT YOU SPENT DOING THIS? WHAT WHAT WE HAVE OUT THERE IN WAY COUNTY OPERATIONS, BAD, BAD, UH, DEAL THEY'RE THERE. I MEAN WE'VE HIT SOME FROM TIME TO TIME, BUT AS FAR AS SAYING, YOU KNOW, I KNOW WE HAVE A COUNTERFEIT ORGANIZATION HERE. I COULDN'T SAY THAT I, I COULDN'T, I WOULD, I COULDN'T GIVE YOU A NUMBER ON THAT. NOW AS FAR AS THE ONES THAT DO CLEAN SKIN, I CAN TELL WE HIT, UH, 2, 3, 4, UH, I CAN THINK OF ABOUT SIX STATIONS JUST OFF HAND THAT WE WERE ACTUALLY ABLE TO SIT DOWN AND LOOK AT THE PORT HOLE AND GO THROUGH AND LOOK. THEY HAD DOUBLE THAT WE FOUND WHERE THEY WELL THAT'S WHAT, AND IT'S, IT'S MULTIPLE TIMES. NOBODY, YOU KNOW, IF YOU DO IT ONE TIME AND YOU KNOW, YOU LOOK AROUND LIKE, HEY I GOT WOW WITH THIS. WE START DOING PLACE THERE AND AND TERRY WAS CHARGING $140 TO DO IT. WHAT THEY PAY 'EM A HUNDRED DOLLAR BILL FOR FOR THEM GETTING IT DONE AND THEY WRITE IT OFF AS AS AS WORK DONE TO THE VEHICLE. AND THEN, YOU KNOW, AND WHAT YOU CAN DO ON THAT. I MEAN LIKE DAY DEAL. YEAH. YOU KNOW WORD WILL GET OUT. IT DOESN'T TAKE LONG. YEAH, SURE. WELL A LOT OF IT'S, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW EVERYBODY KNOWS WHAT HE DOING BUDDY OWN. YOU HAVE TROUBLE THERE AND HE GOT WHAT I FOUND IS JUST SO ALL I DON'T, I DON'T HAVE, THAT'S WHY THE STATE DOESN'T WANT DO IT ANYMORE. YEAH. BACK ON THE TOP. YOU'RE RIGHT. UH, THE FREE TOP WAS, IT WASN'T WHAT WAS NOT BOUGHT WITH THE GRANT. NONE OF WERE BOUGHT WITH BUT THE ONE THAT WAS WITH THE COMMERCIAL VEHICLE GUY, IT STATED WITH YOU IT DID NOT GO WITH THE SHERIFF. CORRECT. I THOUGHT FOR SOME REASON IT WENT THE SHERIFF DEPARTMENT, HE USED TWO TRUCKS THAT THEY GET OUT THERE, THEY USE IT. OKAY. ALRIGHT. ALRIGHT. AND UH, SO WHAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR IS ANOTHER DEPUTY, FULL-TIME DEPUTY. YES. IF WE GAVE YOU THAT, IF YOU WERE TO GET ANOTHER FULL-TIME DEPUTY, WOULD YOU DO AWAY WITH YOUR PART-TIME HELP? I WOULD WANT TO BUT YOU KNOW, THAT'S GOING TO BE AT THE Y'ALL DISCRETION OR PUT IT BACK. WE'VE ALREADY, I CUT HIM BACK TO 20,000. WE STARTED IT WITH 30. WHAT WOULD YOU HIRE A NEW DEPUTY IN AS THAT WHERE WE STARTING PAY IS, I DUNNO WHAT THAT IS RIGHT WHERE I, WHAT IS IT? 40,000? I DUNNO. MOST ALL THE DEPUTIES MAKE 41 3 90 41 3 91. SO WHERE WE STARTING PAY IS THERE'S, THERE'S REALLY A WHOLE LOT. I MEAN NOT A LOT OF INCENTIVE ON THOSE DEPUTY COUNCILS 'CAUSE THEY DON'T, THERE'S NO, THERE'S NO PROMOTION, THERE'S NO . SO YOU KNOW, I TRY AND AND TREAT MY ONES I GOT DOESN'T TAKE CARE OF, YOU KNOW, MAKE SURE IF THEY GOT SOMETHING GOING ON YOU DIDN'T HIRE BUT YOU'VE ALREADY GOT AN EXTRA TAHOE TO PUT HIM IN. RIGHT. WE GOT THE PART-TIME AND ONE IS FULLTIME ONE, WELL HE'S GOT TWO, HE'S GOT IMP CROWN THAT YOU PUT. HE'S GOT THREE TITLES. YEAH, THREE TAHOES IN TWO CARS. THEY'RE OCCUPIED. THREE TAHOES ARE OCCUPIED. HE HAS ONE TAHOE TIME PARTTIME ONE HAS OTHER. I'VE SEEN ONE. I'LL SEND ONE AT PRECINCT TWO. HE CAN TAKE ONE OF THOSE. WELL I THINK WE WE'RE WORKING ON GETTING SEAN TO LET HIM, SEAN HAS A CROWN VIC AND IF HE THINK ONE HE WANTS EXTRA CAR SPARE. I'M TIRED OF THESE BUT HAVING TO WORK ON, WELL NO WE GOT TWO DEPARTMENTS THAT NEED TWO. WE GOT TWO EXTRA DOWN. YEAH. PRECINCT THREE WAS ASKING FOR AN EXTRA CAR. WE DIDN'T NEED TO GET THE THEY'RE WELCOME TO HAVE THEM. WELL WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS GO THROUGH JACK ON THAT BECAUSE THEY'RE ON YOUR INVENTORY. RIGHT. AND BUT MY, IF THEY'RE A PIECE OF JUNK THESE OTHER GUYS MAY NOT WANT AND I DON'T KNOW IF THERE ARE PIECE OF THAT'S REASON WAS ASKING JUDGE. I FEEL LIKE IF SOMEBODY'S USING IT, IT'S OKAY, YOU KNOW, IT'S GOTTA KEEP IT UP. YEAH. RIGHT. WELL, AND, AND MIGHT HAS TO LAST FOR, FOR A WHILE EVEN THOUGH THEY'RE NOT JUST WONDERFUL. NO, I'M THAT INCREASE THEIR PARTS OF REPAIRS, BUDGETS, YOU [03:15:01] KNOW, I JUST SPEND ABOUT 500 ON ONE OF THEM. SO, SO JACK, WHAT'S THE PROCEDURE ON THAT? DOES HE JUST NEED TO JUST TRANSFER ALL, ALL WE JUST ONE FORM THAT THAT THE DEPARTMENT THAT HAS THE VEHICLE SIGNS AND THE ONE THAT PROCEEDING THE VEHICLE SIGN AND THAT'S, THAT'S ALL INVOLVED IN WHO NEEDS TO MAKE THE CONTACT WITH THE UH, CONSTABLE. IS THAT SOMETHING HE CAN DO OR YOU NEED TO DO OR DO I NEED TO DO WHOEVER HAS THE VEHICLE NEEDS TO DOES ONE, BOTH OF THEM GO TO JACK'S OFFICE AND SIGN THE THING. WE GOT GET IT MOVED TO I'LL TELL 'EM TO COME DOWN. I'LL HAVE IT CLEANED UP AND RUNNING. POINTED OUT OF THE PARKING LOT. THEY WELCOME . WE'RE GETTING CLOSE, WE AIN'T GOT ENOUGH LEFT. CHECK TIRES WALKING AROUND THE CAR MADE MAKE HIM NESTLING. , YOU KNOW YOU MENTIONED I ALREADY HAVE A A ANOTHER ONE DOWN THERE IF, IF I HAVE TO PUT OFF, IF YOU'RE, IF Y'ALL GIVE ME ANOTHER PERSON, IF I HAVE TO PUT OFF GETTING A VEHICLE FOR THAT PERSON, I'LL CERTAINLY PULL THAT VEHICLE AND PUT IT WITH MY, PULL THE PART-TIME GUY'S VEHICLE THAT TITLE AND PUT IT WITH HIM. AND WHEN MY PART-TIME MAN NEEDS TO COME IN, HE CAN COME IN WITH MINE. I'LL FIND THE VEHICLE TO PUT IT IN BECAUSE I'M MAINLY USING THE COVER IN THE EVENINGS. YEAH. BECAUSE ALL THE THREE OF Y'ALL ARE NOT GONNA BE WORKING AT THE SAME TIME. RIGHT. I TRY AND USE HIM TO COVER THE LAYOVER IN THE EVENINGS BECAUSE WE, YOU KNOW, JUST 'CAUSE PEOPLE ARE GETTING CIVIL PAPERS DON'T MEAN THEY DON'T HAVE JOBS. THEY'RE WORKING DURING THE MIDDLE OF THE DAY SO WE HAVE TO COME BACK OUT AT NIGHT AND THEN WE ALL TRY AND PICK A SATURDAY A MONTH WHEN WE COME IN AND JUST WORK TILL ABOUT LUNCHTIME GET SOMETIMES, YOU KNOW, I HAVE ONE OFFICER COME OUT AND STAY. WELL YOU KNOW, IT'S A HUGE PRECINCT AND WE KNOW THAT AND JACKIE HAS THE SAME THING BECAUSE OF JUST ABSOLUTELY THE SIZE OF THE PRECINCT. UH, SO, BUT KIND OF THE PERSONNEL TOO, YOU KNOW, IT MAKES SENSE TO DO IT. I THINK SO THE COURT, SO WE'D DO AWAY WITH THE 20,000 PART-TIME AND CREATE A NEW 41 PART PARTTIME. OKAY. I JUST, IF IF WE CAN'T GET ANOTHER VE IF YOU, IF I CAN GET THE PERSON AND I CAN'T GET A VEHICLE, I'M OKAY WITH IT. I'D CERTAINLY RATHER HAVE ANOTHER VEHICLE TO PUT 'EM IN BECAUSE THAT'S GONNA PUT ONE RUNNING MOW. BUT UH, IF, IF WE CAN'T GET THE VEHICLE ALONG WITH THE PERSON, I CERTAINLY WOULD TAKE THE PERSON, GET THE OTHER VEHICLE, WE GIVE YOU A PARTTIME BRAND, THEN KEEP ONE OF THEM. I'LL DO THAT. I'LL MY PARTTIME JUST GIVE ONE AWAY TO PRECINCT. HOPEFULLY I THINK JOHNSON THAT'LL UTILIZE ALL, THAT'LL UTILIZE ALL THE, I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM GIVING HIM THE SIZE THAT HE'S GOT. MAYBE NEXT YEAR WE PRECINCT THEY GOT TOO MUCH MORE PAPERWORK. WELL YEAH THEY HOSPITAL AND THEN THEY GOT THE INTERSTATE ONLY OTHER THING I CAN SUGGEST IS IF THAT, IF THAT THAT THING 40, WE TAKE THAT AND USE HIM IN THREE TOO. I GOT PART SIGN. I MEAN I DON'T KNOW WHY. I DON'T KNOW WHY YOU HAVE TO HAVE A WELL Y'ALL ARE NOT REQUIRED TO STAY WITHIN PRECINCT BOUNDARIES BY LAW. NOT BY LAW. I MEAN I DON'T KNOW WHY, YOU KNOW, CAN USE THEM TWO DAYS. WE CAN GO DOWN THERE AND SERVE PAPER THREE DAYS A WEEK FOR A LOT HAS A STACK THIS ALL EVERY WEEK. YOU SEND US 30 OR 40 AT TIME, WE DON'T MAKE DIME OFF OF IT. THAT'S SOMETHING ELSE WE NEED TO ADDRESS. BUT I'M JUST BECAUSE GET HIM SOME DON'T NEED, THERE MIGHT BE SOME COURT FEES BUT AS FAR AS THE CONSTABLE'S OFFICE, THAT'S WHAT YOU KNOW A LOT OF TIMES AND YOU KNOW IT GETS BROUGHT UP WHEN THEY LOOK AT THE JP FEES AND YOU SAY, WELL PRECINCT THREE'S DOING THIS AND COURT'S DOING THIS AND ONE'S DOING THAT. I TOLD THEM, UH AND CARTER, I SAID LOOK, I SAID THAT'S JP. I SAID Y'ALL GETTING HUNG UP IN THERE BECAUSE WHAT I PUT ON THE, WHAT Y'ALL READING ON THE BOTTOM OF THAT PAPER IS TRUE. THAT'S ALL NUMBERS YOU CAN GO PULL AND LOOK AT. THAT'S WHAT THE CONSTABLE'S OFFICE DOES. THAT'S NOT WHAT JP THREE'S CONNECTED PICKING UP OFF OF DPSS TICKETS THAT THEY'RE RIGHT OUT HERE ON I 20. RIGHT. OKAY. SO I MEAN, AND I AND I, YOU KNOW, I WANTED ONE OR TWO OF THE CONSTABLES TO UNDERSTAND THAT. 'CAUSE I, YOU KNOW, WE JUST DID, PAM JUST DID SOME GRANTS HERE A WHILE BACK AND I'M SURE SHE SHOWED YOU THE NUMBERS THAT SHE PULLED. YEAH. SO I PRESUME TO Y'ALL EVERY YEAR IN ABOUT MARCH YOU HAVE A PRETTY WILD DOWN GETS THAT HENDERSON COUNTY'S NICE ENOUGH TO PEOPLE. REALLY? YEAH, THEY'RE, THEY'RE CRIMINALS. OH, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT LAW ENFORCEMENT. THEY MIGHT CARRYING, YOU PROBABLY GET A FEW FROM DALLAS COUNTY ON THE THEY AMMUNITION. YEAH. THEY'RE [03:20:01] UP TO A THOUSAND OR WHATEVER. A THOUSAND. WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE THAT KIND OF WELL THAT'S, THAT'S WITH FOUR. SO THAT'S, WE'RE SAYING YOU'RE GOING GET A NEW ONE. SO WE'RE GOING TO INCREASE THAT DOWN BECAUSE YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TWO 50 ON EACH PERSON. OKAY. THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO. MAKE IT EVEN QUALIFY 20. OKAY. YEAH. ARE Y'ALL OKAY WITH THE NEW EMPLOYEE? I AM FOR HIM JACKIE, IT'S YOUR PRE CONCERN SO I KNOW THEY NEED IT. YEAH. OKAY. NOW I GUESS THAT WOULD BE THE OTHER THING. I'D HAVE THIS GUY WILL, UH, I KNOW HE'LL HAVE MANY BEAUTIES, BUT THE BACKLOG AND WARRANTS THAT BE PART OF WHAT HE DOES. YES. AND, AND I DON'T WANT ANYBODY TO GET LOOK AT SAY, OH THERE'S THIS MANY WARRANTS, IT DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE FOR US TO GO OFF IN DALLAS COUNTY. LOOK FOR SOMEBODY ON THE WARRANT FOR WHERE THE PAYS GOING TO BE 300 FOR THE FAILED TO BEER AND TWO 90 FOR WHATEVER THE WARRANT WAS. I'M TRYING TO ONLY WORK WARRANTS THAT WE HAVE FOR PEOPLE THAT'S EITHER WITHIN OUR COUNTY OR JUST OVER THE COUNTY LINE. I'M NOT YOU, YOU KNOW, YOU WILL START, IT'LL COST WAY MORE MONEY THAN WE IRVING ALL OVER THE STATE. RIGHT. WHEN, WHEN YOU PUT A WARRANT, WHEN YOU PUT A WARRANT OUT, HOW LONG DOES THE, HOW LONG DOES THE, UH, HARD COPIES STAY IN? THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT DEPART NOW. THEY, THEY'RE THERE FOREVER THERE. THEY'LL KEEP HARD COPY UP. THEY'LL KEEP IT THERE FOR NOW. THEM USED TO, THEY WOULDN'T KEEP 'EM FOREVER. LIKE IF THEY PICK 'EM UP DOWN, THEY WON'T, THEY WON'T PICK UP THEIR WALK. AND A LOT OF 'EM SAY, WELL, WE, WE'LL ONLY SAY, UH, CONFIRM IN DALLAS COUNTY. OKAY. AND SO, BUT I MEAN, WE'VE GOT, I KNOW OUR TRANSPORT OFFICER, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE GOING AND WEARING IT. WE ALL OVER THE COUNTRY. RIGHT. ONE OTHER THING, IN UNIFORM, IF YOU HAVE ANOTHER PERSON, YOU HAVE TO BUDGET UP YOUR, UH, UNIFORM BUDGET BECAUSE YOU'RE ALREADY SPENDING I WHAT YOU SPENT SO FAR, BUT YOU, 1500, IT DIDN'T SHOW WHAT YOU SPENT THIS YEAR. UHUH? I HAVEN'T. I JUST, I JUST MADE, I BROUGHT THAT IN WITH ME. I JUST DID A, A, A PO FOR UH, UM, LET'S SEE, 500 ON MY AMMO. AND I JUST DID A PO FOR I GUESS A THOUSAND ON THE UNIFORMS AND SET TIRES. THEM, I DUNNO, WE HAD A SET NUMBER ON UNIFORMS, WHATEVER CALL. WELL, SOME OF 'EM SAID THEY DIDN'T NEED IT. I FIRST YOU HAVE TO ASK THEM D FROM TIME TO TIME. I LIKE MY CLASS A UNIFORMS. I HAVEN'T BEEN, I HAVEN'T REPLACED THEM IN SEVERAL YEARS. BUT DO YOU HAVE A, A UNIFORM COMPANY THAT, THAT COMES AND YOU KNOW, ERS AND YOU KNOW, OR DO Y'ALL DO YOUR OWN? NO. HOW YOU PAY THAT OUTTA POCKET? YOU DO THEM AT THE HOUSE TRASH ON THERE? NO. THAT'S KIND OF FUNNY. I MEAN, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, YOU GO TO DIFFERENT POLICE AGENTS AND GET THINGS THEY, YOU KNOW, LIKE DALLAS, YOU KNOW, THEY MIGHT TAKE CARE OF OWN, I MEAN, BIG DEAL. TOUGH LUCK. YEAH. PARTNERSHIP. THEY GOT QUARTERMASTER THAT'LL GIVE THEM X NUMBER OF UNIFORMS. THEY TEAR ONE UP. YOU CAN TAKE IT, TURN IT IN. THAT'S IT. WE JUST USE DO YOUR WE DO OUR OWN MONITOR. WE NEED SOMETHING. I USED TO TRY AND USE TYLER UNIFORM, BUT YOU KNOW, THEY GOT ONE OF THEM GUYS THAT SHOW UP EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE, SELL SOMETHING. THEY'LL SEE THEM IN THE COUNTY BARN QUITE A BIT. SO YOU'RE OKAY WITH 1500 ON UNIFORM? YOU GET ANOTHER I THINK, I THINK UNLESS WE EVER CHANGE IT. I MEAN, AND YOU KNOW, AND THIS IS WAY IT ALL, BUT WE WOULD YOU, I'D LOVE TO SEE JACK COME UP WITH ONE THING FOR ALL THE CONSTABLES, ALL THE UNIFORMS, WHETHER IT'S LAWN INSURANCE OR WHATEVER. EVERYBODY KIND OF LOOK, WELL, ALL THREE, YOU KNOW, I, THERE'S, THERE'S THREE OUT OF THE FOUR HAVE THESE UNIFORM. RIGHT. YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. AND THEY ALL HAVE AT LEAST, AT LEAST AIN'T BE IT. I WANTED WHEN I COME IN AND HAD LIKE FIVE UNTIL THE RANGE, OR WE KNOW WE'RE GOING TO BE OUT WORK A LOT OF TRAFFIC OUT ON THE HIGHWAY, WE MIGHT CHANGE. UH, BUT FOR THE MOST PART, I DIDN'T WANT SHOW UP AND I DIDN'T WANT TO KNOW WHY. I WANT EVEN OFFICERS SHOWING UP IN COURT AND BDU AND NO, I AGREE WITH YOU. YOU KNOW, JUST, YOU NEED TO LOOK PROFESSIONAL. WATCH ON BUDGET YOU NEED 1500. YOU OKAY WITH THAT? IF YOU GET ANOTHER GUY, UM, 2000, YOU TELL US WHAT YOU, YOU KNOW, IF WE GIVE ANOTHER GUY, I CAN PROBABLY GET BY WITH THAT. 'CAUSE I'VE GOT A PO RIGHT NOW THAT'S IN, THAT'S IN HERE TO GO BUY UNIFORMS FOR PEOPLE THAT ARE EMPLOYED RIGHT NOW. SO WE OUGHT TO, YOU KNOW, IF WE CAN GET THROUGH. SO YOU'LL HAVE 1500 TO USE FOR THE NEXT ENT ENTIRE YEAR. I THINK WE'LL BE OKAY. LIKE I SAID, WE LEAVE, LIKE IF YOU'RE GOOD WITH IT, YEAH. IF WE CAN LEAVE THAT BOTTOM NUMBER AT 4,500 OUTFIT, UH, FOR, AND ALSO, UH, I'VE GOT, LIKE I SAID, A LITTLE BIT [03:25:01] OF MONEY IN MY ASSET TURE FUND AND I'VE GOT A CAR SITTING ON THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT THAT I CAN SELL THAT WE'VE SEIZED AS WELL. UH, WE'RE GONNA NEED SOME VESTS COMING UP PRETTY SOON. EVERYBODY VEST CAMERAS OR YOU HAVE CAMERAS AND THAT, THAT WILL BE ONE THING I'LL, THAT I MIGHT NEED TO ADDRESS AND COME BACK TO Y'ALL. IF WE DO THIS AND I MOVE THAT THE CAMERAS THAT I HAVE FOR MY OFFICERS RIGHT NOW, OUR BODY CAMERAS I PURCHASED WITH THE EMISSIONS MONEY. SO WILL THOSE CAMERAS HAVE TO GO TO PRECINCT TWO OR WILL I BE ABLE TO KEEP THEM HERE? DO Y'ALL KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT? I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER. I WOULD THINK THAT'S RENT MONEY. IT'S GOING TO BE KEPT ON INVENTORY. WE'D PROBABLY HAVE TO CHECK WITH THE GOOD POUND TO CHECK. I THINK THAT YOU COULD LEAVE HIM, I THINK IT BE A THING THAT YOU CAN PURCHASE AGAIN, THAT WON'T GO FROM THERE. THAT MIGHT BE THE ANSWER TO HIS QUE PROBLEM UP THERE TOO, IS THAT HE NEED CAMERON. I THINK TYPICALLY IF IT'S BOUGHT THROUGH A GRANT FOR SPECIFIC USE, IT NEEDS TO CONTINUE. GOOD. IT'LL HAVE TO TRANSFER WITH THAT. YEAH. I THINK THAT SAY THAT, SAY IT THAT WAY. IT'S NOT A GRANT THOUGH. THAT'S NOT GRANT MONEY. THAT IS NOT A GRANT. THAT'S MONEY THAT'S ALREADY PAID, TAKEN FROM EACH OF THE CITIZENS HAVE PUT IN. SO I DON'T THINK IT'S A GRANT. IT'S, IT'S, IT'S LOOKED AT IT, BUT I DON'T THINK IT IS A TRUE GRANT THAT YEAH, IT'S LOOKED AT AS A GRANT BECAUSE IT'S COMPLETED WITH OUR GRANT. MAYBE THERE'S SOME WAY WE CAN FIND, FIND SOME RULES ABOUT THAT BECAUSE IF WE CAN ACTUALLY MONEY ACTUALLY PURCHASE SOME MORE CAMERAS WITH IT THAT, YOU KNOW, IN THIS NEXT YEAR, MAYBE IT'S A DEAL WHERE WE CAN PURCHASE SOME MORE AND THEN WE CAN MOVE IT TO ANOTHER DEPARTMENT WE CAN PURCHASE. ALRIGHT. UH, ANYTHING ELSE? GOOD. WHAT WE'LL DO FURNITURE. FURNITURE. WE, WE'VE TAKEN THAT OUT. OKAY. COMPLETELY GONE. WELL I A THOUSAND DOLLARS IN THERE FOR EQUIPMENT. I THINK HE THAT'S WHAT I ASKED TO LEAVE THAT NUMBER AT 45. OR YOU MARK FURNITURE OFF THERE IF YOU WANT TO LEAVE THE EQUIPMENT. BUT I ASKED IT TO DO THAT TO 4,500. NO, WE DON'T PUT IT DOWN IN S WELL I WON'T BE ABLE TO BUY A HANDGUN OR SHOTGUN. YEAH, EVERYBODY'S GOT EQUIPMENT. YEAH, BUT THEY GOT ALL OF THEM GOT A THOUSAND BUCKS, A THOUSAND DOLLARS. I CAN'T EQUIP THE OFFICERS FOR A THOUSAND BUCKS. YEAH, TRUE. WHAT WHAT WOULD IT COST YOU? UM, FOUR GLOCK JACK. THEY CHARGE US ABOUT FOUR AND A HALF ON THE GLOCK. ANOTHER THREE 50 ON THE SHOTGUN. UH, LEATHER TO BUY A VEST. IT'S LEATHER. I MEAN IT'S GONNA COST, YOU'LL NEED THAT. YOU'LL NEED AT LEAST 3000. THAT'S WHY I SAID LEAVE IT AT 4,500 JUST UH, FOR THE VEST. AND WE'VE GOT VEST EXPIRING. I WAS GONNA PURCHASE. THAT'S SO YOU, YOU CAN FOUR, 500 AND COVER. WELL YOU SAID THE, UH, YOU SAID THE CAR THAT YOU GONNA SELL ON THE FOR FUND, RIGHT? I'LL HAVE SOME FOR MONEY. YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT REPLACING VEST? YOU KNOW, FOUR VEST, FIVE VEST, BECAUSE I GOTTA RESERVE. SO THAT COVERED THAT. WE WON'T, BUT I, I'VE GOT SOME MONEY IN THERE. I'D HAVE GET SOME, I DON'T KNOW IF MY, WE'LL GET SOME MORE CARS. WE'LL SEE SOME MORE CARS. SEE SOME MORE CARS. . OKAY. OKAY. NOW WHAT'S IN YOUR TURE FUND? THAT'S, I DON'T HAVE THAT ON THIS ONE. I COUPLE THOUSAND MAKE FIVE. I DUNNO. I HAVE TO LOOK AT IT AND SEE. I DON'T WANNA TELL Y'ALL HOW MUCH ATTORNEY WE WE'RE GONNA PUT IT TO WORK. YEAH. OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. APPRECIATE IT. D PS UH, IS NOT GOING BE HERE. NEXT ONE. AND I JUST, BY THE WAY, JACK AND COMMISSION, I JUST TALKED TO SEAN. HE WAS WAITING ON BRIAN TO GET OUT THERE AND UH, HE'S FINE. GO AHEAD. TRANSFER THE CAR TO PRECINCT. YOU KNOW, HE'S READY TO DO JUST YEAH. PRECINCT TWO. SO I'M SENDING EVERYBODY TEXT JUST SO THEY KNOW WHATEVER THE PROCEDURE IS. NOT TWO, TWO HIM. YEAH, HIS IS GOING. JOHN IS I 1, 2, 3, IT'S ONS. UH, WHEN DID THAT, THIS IS WE FURNISHED OFFICE EQUIPMENT SECRETARY. THE SECRETARY, THE STATE DOES NOT FURNISH THEIR, UH, SECRETARIAL HEALTH OR THE 16, I THINK THEY HAVE 16, UH, TROOPERS THAT ARE LOCATED THERE. AND TRADITIONALLY OVER THE YEARS, THE COUNTY'S NOT US. I MEAN ELSEWHERE FURNISH PAY FOR [03:30:01] THE ARIES AND THE PEOPLE TO GIVE THE, NO, THESE ARE THE SECRETARIES. DO THEIR SEPARATE KNOW THERE'S TWO SUPERVISOR, WHAT'S THE NAME? SO THIS TWO SECRETARIES. TWO SECRETARIES. AND THAT'S, THAT'S BASICALLY, I THINK THEY, THEIR HELP DO THEIR ACCIDENT. AND WHO ELSE? COME ON. WHO COUNTY THERE DOWN FACEBOOK MAJOR CENTER ABOUT BIG. SO WHAT THEY'RE ASKING FOR IS DUBLIN OR OFFICE SUPPLIES YEAH. OR SOMETHING. COMMUNICATION. YOU GOING UP A THOUSAND OFF RECORD A THOUSAND? NO, THEY'RE, OR THEY WANT GO? I'M NOT SURE. I'M NOT SURE WHAT THEY, THEY WANT, I THINK THEY WANT TO GO UP 4,004 ON THE SUPPLIES AND 3000 UP ON COMPUTER TO MAKE THAT 4,000. SEE I HAVE NOT OFFERED FOR WHATEVER REASON WE CAN, I DO KNOW THEY, I THINK 15, 16, HE'S GOT SIX OUT THE PRESENTATION. AND IT MAY BE HE'S NOT REAL UP ON, HE PROBABLY TURN, HE MAY NOT HAVE. OKAY, LET'S JUST GO. GOT OVER HOW MORNING. GOOD. DOING GOOD. YOU ALRIGHT? I'M PRETTY GOOD. ALRIGHT. MADE IT HERE IN ONE PIECE. SO THAT'S GOOD. SAW DR. RE COMBINE GOING DOWN. DID YOU SEE IT? IT HAD TRACKS ON IT. UH, OR . YEAH. YOU KNOW, ATION TIRES GOING DOWN THE HIGHWAY WITH IT. IT HAD THE FULL TAG ON IT. NO, IT HAD SIX. THEY LOOKED LIKE HARD TIRES GOT GOT A TEXT FROM SO I GUESS HE EVER WENT OUT THERE AND STARTED. YEAH, STARTED. I MEAN, I, I DROVE BY TWO OR PREVIOUS PLACES AND STARTED. THEY DID STARTED, I, I WON'T GO AND WATCH. THEY WAS CUTTING YESTERDAY TRYING SOMEBODY. REALLY? YEAH. WOW. YEAH. YOU KNOW HE'S GOT ONE OF THESE DRAG HEAT THINGS WITH A FRONT END SELF-PROPELLED CUT CUTS ALONG. I THINK HE'S JUST TRYING TO GET IT OFF HER. IT'S NOT EVEN GOOD. YEAH. CUTTING TWO CUTS AT ONE TIME. YEAH. TRYING TO GET, OKAY. OKAY. UH, SO, SO WE, UH, REALLY IMPROVED. I I, I SENT IN A BUDGET REQUEST. IT HAD TWO OR THREE ITEMS WE, I WANTED TO CALL A WARRANT INCREASE. I WENT BACK AND LOOKED AT IT TWO OR THREE TIMES IN MY MIND. I INCREASE ANYTHING. UH, IF, IF WE DO IT, IT MIGHT BE ON OUR UH, OUR OUT OF COUNTY TRAVEL, WE GO UH, I'VE USED AN EXAMPLE IN THE LETTER I SENT TO THE JUDGE. I HAVE UH, GOT THE HONOR. I'VE BEEN GIVEN, UH, THE DISTINGUISHED SERVICE AWARD FOR COUNTY AGENTS THIS YEAR. CRAZY. AND UH, I HAVE, BUT I HAVE TO GO SOUTH DAKOTA TO GET THE THING. OH REALLY? I'LL GO WITH YOU. DO YOU KNOW THAT? DO YOU KNOW THAT THERE YOU DON'T NEED IT MONEY. YOU CAN RIDE WITH IT THERE. YOU, I SO, SO, SO TWO THINGS. I GOTTA GO SOUTH DAKOTA GET IT AND THEN I GOTTA GO TO CORPUS CHRISTI TO GET TO THE NATIONAL CONVENTION AND THE STATE CONVENTION. Y'ALL KNOW THAT IT IS 72 MILES FURTHER THIS SIOUX FALLS SOUTH DAKOTA THAN IT IS TO CORPUS CHRISTI. ISN'T THAT SOMETHING? YEAH. DEPENDS ON HOW FAR YOU DRIVE OFF THE ROAD TO WORKS USING. SO THAT'S THE REASON FOR THE, UH, SO I THOUGHT WE, WELL, WELL HERE'S THE THING. INCREASE JUDGE, I, I ASKED FOR $600 INCREASE IN THAT DEAL ON LINE 43 0 5. YES. RIGHT. AND AND THE REASON IS WE'RE ALL THREE OF US ARE PRETTY TENURED AGENTS AND THE FACT IS KIND OF TIME OF OUR CAREER WHERE WE'LL GET THOSE REWARDS AND YOU KNOW, AND YOU HAVE TO GO, KATIE FOR INSTANCE, SHE HAS, SHE WENT TO HER NATIONAL CONVENTION, YOU'RE POOR LAST, SHE WENT UP TO PENNSYLVANIA IN HER ASSOCIATION. SHE HAS TO GO TO TWO OF THOSE BEFORE SHE EVEN QUALIFIES TO GET THE DISTINGUISHED SERVICE BOARD. [03:35:01] I'M NOT SURE ABOUT THE FOUR H AGE, HOW THEY QUALIFY FOR THAT THING. BUT THE FACT IS WE'RE COUNTING THAT PART OF OUR CAREER. AND ANOTHER FIVE OR SIX I ACTUALLY FIND MYSELF, I MIGHT NEED TO COME TO COURT TO ASCO. I FIND MYSELF $1,273 SHORT OF BEING ABLE TO GO ON ALL THE TRIPS THAT THE STATE FOUR EIGHT HORSE SHOW, WHICH I'M A PART OF A MANAGEMENT TEAM OF THIS AND GO TO THESE TWO CONVENTIONS TO GET THAT PSA AWARD. UH, I'VE IT RIGHT DOWN TO THE PENNY OF 1270 $3 AND 31 CENTS THAT I'M CHARTING IN MY BUDGET TO BE ABLE TO, UM, COVER THOSE. SO DO YOU HAVE AN AREA IN YOUR BUDGET THAT YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO BIT? I'M THAT'S EVEN AFTER MOVING, MOVING SOME MONEY AROUND. MONEY AROUND. OKAY. THAT'S GONNA BE A LITTLE SHORT. AND I KNOW WE'VE ASKED YOU GUYS OVER THE LAST TWO OR THREE, FOUR YEARS TO MAKE SOME CUTS AND ADJUSTMENTS, WHICH YOU'VE DONE OBVIOUSLY. AND SO LIKE THIS YEAR I DIDN'T GO TO TWO STOCK SHOWS, WHICH ARE MORE EXPERIENCED FAMILIES WENT TO THOSE STOCK SHOWS, WHICH IS SAN ANGELO AND HOUSTON. I HAD TRAVEL TO THOSE BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T NEED ME DOWN THERE. BUT, UM, EVEN WITH ME NOT TRAVELING TO THOSE TWO STOCK SHOWS, I'M GONNA BE SHORT 1400 JUST TO TRY TO MAKE IT TO MY MANDATORY ESTATE SIDE WITH MY MY FOUR HS. 'CAUSE I'LL BE GONE NEXT WEEK ALL THE WAY THROUGH THE MIDDLE OF AUGUST WITH THINGS GOING ON WITH THE KIDS IN THEIR LEADERSHIP CAMPS. SO WE, WE FIND OURSELVES TOWARD, IN OUT COUNTY PART OF THE TRAFFIC THING. AND WHERE IS THAT SHOWN HERE? IS THAT ON THE TRAINING, EDUCATION AND CONFERENCE? IT, IT IS, UH, 3 0 2. ISN'T THAT AGENT OUT? YEAH, THAT'S IT. SO IN ADDITIONAL, SO YOU'RE AT, WHAT ARE WE, UH, SO IF YOU INCREASE THAT ONE UP THERE, YOU WANTED, WHAT WERE YOU LOOKING AT? IF YOU WANT GET, DIDN'T PUT ANYTHING FOR INCREASE IT. I, I ONLY ASKED FOR, UH, 1,331 AND, UH, 6 65. THREE FIVE. WE ACTUALLY, WE ORIGINALLY ASKED FOR, FOR AN INCREASE OF $1,200 ON THAT. I CAME BACK AND SAID, WELL YOU KNOW, MAYBE WE CAN BUY JUST 600. I I'M JUST TRYING TO BE FRUGAL. WELL WE APPRECIATE THAT. I PROMISE YOU. SO, BUT ON THE UH, OUT OF COUNTY TRANSPORTATION, UH, IT IS AT 45, RIGHT? YOU LIKE 50? REQUEST TO GO TO WHAT? 57 57? YEAH. 57. IS EVERYBODY ALRIGHT WITH THAT? YEAH. OKAY. I THINK, I THINK THAT'S GOOD. WE'RE GOING TO BUY A NEW COMPUTER THIS YEAR, BUT I FIND YOU BUT WE GOT DO THAT. ALRIGHT. IT'S GONNA BE NEXT YEAR, BUT I DON'T HAVE TO INCREASE IT. I THOUGHT I HAVE TO INCREASE THE COMPUTER BUDGET TO GET UP THERE. I DON'T HAVE. OKAY. AND HOW ABOUT THIS? 43 OLD POUND, THE EDUCATION CONFERENCE, 3000 THERE THREE. WELL, THAT, THAT'S WHERE I ACTUALLY ASKED TO GO UP 600 BECAUSE OF THE REGISTRATION FEES FOR THESE CONFERENCES ARE OUT THERE. THEY ARE GOING OUT. THEY'RE OUT THAT ADEQUATE 3000. WELL, I, I'D LIKE FOR TO GO TO 3000 ELSE. WHAT ELSE? WHAT ELSE? LIKE THIS? MAYBE I NEED TO GO BACK THIS. I HAVE A TREE DOWN ON MY ROAD. I REALLY NEED TO GET THERE'S NO CHARGE. THERE YOU GO. . PUT THAT LINE. I NEED YOUR CAR. WE'RE GONNA CHARGE TOO. 40. CUTTING. PUT THAT MONEY US ADVANCE START WHAT I WANTED TO KNOW THAT OTHER DAY WE WERE THERE. THAT DEAL. THE KIDS WERE, THEY WERE READY TO START. VERY GOOD PROGRAM. THEY, I APPRECIATE IT. I THINK CARRIES FOUR H KIDS PIECE. YEP. DID A GREAT JOB. THEY, YOU KNOW, I SPENT TIME WITH EVERY ONE OF THEM AND YOU KNOW, THEY, EVERY ONE ABOVE AVERAGE KIDS ON THE NEXT PAGE, UH, ON THE FOUR H EDUCATION. WHY, WHY DO WE HAVE OVER THE SEPARATE BUDGET? SO SO THAT STARTED OUT AS PART OF THE TOBACCO GRANT. YEAH. UH, AND, AND IT JUST KIND OF ROLLED INTO A, TO A SEPARATE LINE ITEM THING. WE USED THOSE FOR PROGRAMMING. OF COURSE NOW I'M GONNA USE THE AGRI AGRICUL EDUCATION THING MOSTLY FOR THAT TRIP. UH, THIS YEAR I'LL HAVE TO USE WHAT'S LEFT. QUITE FRANKLY, I NEEDED TO DO A FEW OTHER THINGS, BUT MY MASTER GARDENERS ARE STEPPING UP TO THE PLATE TRYING AND HELP FINANCE SOME OF THOSE, YOU KNOW, AND THE LAPTOP. YOU GOT A GOOD GROUP OF PEOPLE THERE. [03:40:01] YEAH, THEY CAN TAKE IT SERIOUS TOO. THEY DO. I LIKE, BUT THOSE ARE OUR PROGRAMMING MONIES. AND I'LL, I'LL BE QUITE HONEST WITH YOU, THEY UH, WE SPEND EVERY BIT OF THAT EVERY YEAR. WELL, BUT IS THERE ANY REASON FOR IT TO BE ON A SEPARATE BUDGET? IT, IT'S LIKE WE HAVE ONE LINE AND HAS ONE LINE AND HAVE, WE'RE DOING OUR PROGRAMMING EVERY YEAR. WE KIND HAVE, WE KNOW WHERE TO SAY. OKAY. SO THAT'S PROBABLY THE REASON THEY LIKE THE NEXT ONE IS FOUR H EDUCATION, RIGHT? IT'S ONLY A THOUSAND BUCKS. YES, YES. I I'VE NEVER REALLY UNDERSTOOD WHY THE TWO FOUR H THING WERE SEPARATE. BUT THE ONE IS, WE BASICALLY USE THAT TOWARDS A LOT OF IT'S THE AG CLASSROOM OR THE CURRICULUM. AND THE OTHER ONE IS FOR MY CAMPING, WHERE WE TRY TO DO DAY CAMPING THIS YEAR WE'RE REALLY GONNA TRY HARD. WE HAVE ACTUALLY, WE'RE WORKING WITH A NEW, UH, CORPORATION, UM, AND WE HAVE, UH, DAY CAMPING STARTING IN THREE OF OUR SECTION EIGHT HOUSINGS HERE IN TON COUNTY. SO, UM, IT'S GONNA BE ABLE TO REACH OUT TO LOT OF THOSE UNDERSERVED KIDS AND, AND IT'S REALLY NEAT 'CAUSE THEY'RE, THEY'VE SIGNED UP TO USING SOLELY FOUR H, UM, MATERIALS EDUCATION PROCESS PROJECT. SO IT'S UH, IT'S REALLY KIND OF NEAT. WE'VE ALREADY DONE THE FIRST TRAINING WITH ALL OF 'EM AND SO A BUNCH OF EMPLOYEE VOLUNTEERS AND OUR LEADERS ARE GONNA GOING IN AND HELPING WITH THOSE PROGRAMS TO TRY TO GET SOMETHING DONE IN THOSE SECTION EIGHT HOUSING TO REALLY TRY TO PROMOTE HEALTHY LIVING IN SOME SITES. THE FOUR OF IT WE'RE DOING THE SCIENCE TECH, TECHNOLOGY AND ENGINEERING. THERE'S SOME OF, YOU GOT TO VIEW WHAT WE'RE DOING. WE'RE DOING THE SCIENCE AND THE BUILDING, ACTUALLY THE DAY CAR NOW TALKING ABOUT FIXING THE ROOF, I GUESS THEY'VE GOT SOME ROOF LEAKS AND STUFF IN THAT BUILDING. UH, AND, BUT, BUT I, CARRIE KNOWS WAY MORE ABOUT THAT, WHAT'S GOING ON OUT THERE THAN I DO. BUT ASK, AND I BROUGHT IF YOU WOULD LIKE A COPY OF THAT LEASE MUCH OPEN LEASE ON THAT THING. I SIGNED THAT IN 1987. SO WHAT COULD WE DO OUT THERE TO MAKE THAT THING LOOK A LOT BETTER AND UPGRADE THAT A LITTLE BIT OR, WELL ACTUALLY, UM, LAST YEAR, NOT IN 2014, THE, THE SHOW BOARD FINALLY STARTED ASKING, REALLY PUSHING FOR SOME UPGRADES. AND, UM, WE HAVE A LOT OF NEW SHOW BOARD MEMBERS ON OUR, OUR LIST NOW. WE ACTUALLY VOTED IN, UM, TWO NEW FACILITY MANAGERS. UM, WE HAVE ONE THAT'S IN CHARGE OF THE, THE SCHEDULE AND KEEPING IT RENTED OUT AND ANOTHER ONE THAT'S ACTUALLY IN CHARGE OF THE MAINTENANCE. AND WORKING WITH THOSE TWO, UM, JUST IN 2014 ALONE, UM, THEY ACTUALLY TOTALLY REDID THE ELECTRICAL BOARD AND THE MAIN BARN BECAUSE BASICALLY YOU GO OUT THERE AND TURN ON AND START SMOKING, BUT YOU'RE TRYING TO DO CLINICS OR STUFF LIKE THAT. IT GET A LITTLE ALARMING, UM, WITH IT BUZZING. SO THE SIX THINGS THAT WERE CHANGED IN THE BARNS JUST IN 2014 TO 2015 MARCH WAS THE SWITCH FORWARD PANEL WAS TOTALLY REPLACED. THE ELECTRICAL LIGHTING IN THE MAIN BARN WAS REPLACE AND NOTHING WOULD FALL DOWN. THE KIDS WERE NO LIGHTS EXPLODING. UH, THEY CLEANED OUT AND THEY STEAM CLEAN THE WOMEN'S BUILDING. THEY TOTALLY REDID THE KITCHEN AREA. UM, THE GUT WORK WAS DONE ON THE MAIN BARN SO IT WOULDN'T FLOOD AS MUCH. AND THEN WE ADDED THOSE CEMENT WALK STEPS DOWN AND, AND REALLY MADE IT TO WHERE THE INMATE MORE HANDICAP ACCESSIBLE. AND THEN ALSO THERE WAS AC WORK ON THE TWO MAIN ONES. SO THOSE WERE THE MAIN THINGS THAT WHEN WE WENT THROUGH AND ASSESSED IT WITH THE SHOWGROUNDS AND SHOW BOARD, THOSE WERE THE FIRST THINGS THAT WERE LIKE AFTER YEARS OF TRYING TO GET THINGS DONE, IT WASN'T, AND THEN WHEN WE ELECTED THESE TWO NEW, UM, PEOPLE FROM THE FACILITY MANAGERS, THEY FINALLY SAID THEY CAME BACK WITH A LIST OF LIKE 20 BANKS. THINGS THAT ARE WORKING ON THIS YEAR AFTER WE STEAM CLEANED OUT. UM, THE RABBIT BARN ROOF IS IN SOME NEED REPAIR AND THAT'S THE LITTLE BARN BACK BEHIND THE MAIN SHOWROOM. UM, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO GET BIDS ON RIGHT NOW. UM, IT'S KIND OF HARD BECAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE PLANNING, THE ROOFING COMPANIES ARE BUSY AND SO TRYING TO GET BIDS ON THAT TO GET IT DONE. AND THEN ALSO IN THE MAIN , WE'RE TRYING TO GET BIDS ON THAT AND THEN, UH, THEY WANNA STAIN IN THE CONCRETE AND THEN THEY'RE GONNA START DOING THE WALLS. BUT THEY HAD TO DO A LOT OF REWORK ON THE, UM, THE KITCHEN AREA. THE FEDERAL HAVE ENOUGH MONEY TO DO, DO ALL THAT. WE, UH, DON'T, THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS I, WE ALWAYS HAVE TO BID IT OUT, TRY TO FIND WHO THE BID IS. THE SHOW BOARD, A LOT OF THE SHOW BOARD GUYS HAVE HAD TO DONATE THEIR TIME. I KNOW WHEN THEY DID THE ELECTRICAL WORK, A BUNCH OF 'EM SAID YOU'LL JUST PAY FOR THE, THAT QUIT OR THE [03:45:02] MATERIALS WILL COME IN AND DO IT. BUT THEY'RE WORKING FAMILIES LIKE ALL OF US. AND SO, UM, IT'S JUST THE THING THEY DON'T HAVE THE BUDGET TO TRY TO DO. IT'S JUST BEEN YEARS OF LETTING IT GO AND YOU KNOW, THE BEST BUDDY SYSTEM OF, HEY COME FIX THIS LITTLE THING. WELL REALLY THE BIG THING YOU NEEDED TO DO WAS FIX THE BIG THING. AND SO NOW WE'RE TRYING TO PLAY CATCH UP. AND SO, UM, THE WHOLE PROCESS IS, IS TRYING TO, TO GET SOME OF THOSE THINGS DONE IS WE HAVE TO BID IT OUT, SEE WHAT CAN GET DONE AND, AND WE FIX ALL THE MAJOR THINGS FIRST. NOW WE'RE COMING BACK DOWN TO THE AESTHETIC THING. THE BIGGEST THING THAT'S BEEN THE BIGGEST HELP IS THE COUNTY HAS REALLY HELPED OUT BY HELPING US WITH THE MONEY AND THE MOW. YEAH. AND QUITE FRANKLY, THAT'S THE ONLY MAINTENANCE SIDE IN THIS CONTRACT. AND IT SAYS THAT THE LEASE OR WILL PAY FOR THAT AND, AND ACTUALLY Y'ALL, THE COUNTY'S ALWAYS PAID FOR THAT, BUT I KNOW IT'S THE ONLY MAINTENANCE ITEM IN THE WHOLE CONTRACT MOWING THE GRASS. BUT I KNOW THAT LOTS OF THE COMMISSIONERS HAVE REALLY BEEN HELPFUL BY WHENEVER WE NEEDED, UM, FEED GRAVEL OR GRAVEL TO PUT HER IN THE BARNS. UH, THAT WE'VE ALWAYS BEEN ABLE TO ASK AND HELP GET THAT OUT THERE. IT'S JUST LATELY, THE LAST SIX WEEKS AFTER THE COUNTY FAIR, WE HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO DO ANYTHING. YOU KNOW, THE, THE ONLY THING GETS ME ABOUT THAT, THAT BARN, IT'S ALMOST LIKE TALKING FROM THE COUNTY SAID WE'LL SETTLE FOR, FOR THIS TYPE OF MEETING RIGHT HERE. YOU KNOW, YOU GO TO GO TO OTHER COUNTIES. I KNOW Y'ALL GO TO OTHER COUNTY FUNCTIONS AND THIS, THAT AND THE OTHER AND EVERYBODY'S GOT A PRETTY DECENT KIND OF PLACE TO HAVE A MEETING. AND WE WALK IN THERE WITH THAT THING. THE WALLS BATHROOM NEED WORK. YEAH. YOU CAN'T EVEN SHUT THE DOOR ON THE WOMEN'S BATHROOM WITHOUT IT. WE HAVE A 5-YEAR-OLD GIRL LOCKED IN THAT THING WITH SCREW, BREAK HER OUT, BREAK HER OUT. YOU KNOW, LUCKILY WE HAVE SOME PEOPLE DOWN THERE ARE ACTUALLY ASSESSING IT AND YOU RIGHT. I MEAN IT JUST, IT'S BEEN SO MANY YEARS THAT IT WENT THAT IT'S BEEN THE BEST STUDY SYSTEM AND I MEAN THEY SHUT DOWN NOT BRINGING IT OUT VERY MUCH BECAUSE IT'S THAT WELL WE REALLY NEEDED TO KEEP BRINGING IT TO BE ABLE TO AFFORD THE UPKEEP. RIGHT NOW, FROM WHAT I KNOW, THE BUILDINGS BELONGED TO THE PARISH ASSOCIATION. IS THAT RIGHT? NO. COUNTY. THE EVERYTHING BELONGS TO THE COUNTY LEASE AND THEN LIKE IF, UM, I KNOW WHEN THEY ADDED ONTO THE WOMEN'S BUILDING, UM, THE COUNTY FAIR PAID FOR THE ADD-ON, BUT IT'S BASICALLY OWNED BY THE COUNTY AND THAT'S PART OF OUR LEASE. WE, AND WHEN THEY ADDED THE BIG, UM, LEMME KEEP THE AG NECK EQUIPMENT. OH YEAH. WE ADDED, WE DUMPED THE SHO ARENA SHOW WITH THE MONEY FROM THE HELL DAMAGE ON THE ROOF. RIGHT. BUT WE NEVER REPLACED THE ROOF AND TOOK THAT MONEY AND PUT THE I CAN'T SO JUST COSMETIC GOTTA DO DAMAGE. RIGHT? YEAH. SO WE HAVE THE BUILDINGS INSURED. I THINK WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS BEFORE. BEFORE YES. AND IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE SOME KIND OF AGREEMENT. UH, JAKE CAN HELP ME ON, I'M WAITING FOR, UH, TIME. HE NEVER GONNA SAY ANYTHING ABOUT. OKAY. I CAN FOLLOW UP ON THAT. OKAY. BUT IF THERE'S LIKE STORM DAMAGE HAPPENING, THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN WELL THIS WAS A LONG TIME AGO. OH, OKAY. WELL THAT WAS THE SHOW BOARD HAD 'EM BEEN INSURED AT ONE TIME. OH, OKAY. THAT'S WELL MOVING FORWARD NOW THAT OUR DAMAGED ON OUR INSURANCE. SO FAR WE HAVEN'T SEEN DAMAGE TRYING GUYS, I'M TRYING, WE HAVE A SURVEY SHOWING HOW MUCH WE ACTUALLY OWN AS PER WE A A MAPS. ARE WE A MAP? I'VE GOT, I'VE GOT, YEAH, WE GOT IT'S LIKE A AERIAL REALLY. ACRES WE HAVE LEFT OUT THERE. YEAH. MET SURER GO OUT AND DO IT. YEAH. ONE WE WERE GOING TO TRY TO GO TO CLEAR THAT SO WE COULD ACTUALLY SEE WHAT WAS USABLE FIRE AFTER ANOTHER. YEAH. BUT UH, WE DO AND THAT'S KIND OF A MOON SHAPED, CRESCENT SHAPED PIECE OF PROPERTY WITH THE, THE CITY OWNS SOME LAND THERE TOO. YEAH, THE CITY OWNS THE BEST PART. YEAH. BYPASS SOME OF IT. YEAH. AND THEN ALL, ALL 1388, ALL THE GOOD HIGH GROUND HAS 50 ACRES THERE. OH. OH, OKAY. WHERE ALL THAT DIRT PILE BY THE LIBRARY. YEAH, BETWEEN THE SHELTER AND THE 34 CITY ACTUALLY. AND THERE'S SOME ON THE WEST SIDE OF 34 WHERE THE POPPERS CEMETERY IS, UH, THE COUNTY. I DON'T THINK THE COUNTY ONES IN THERE. I'M NOT MISTAKEN. [03:50:01] I DON'T KNOW WHY I WAS CONCENTRATING ON LOOKING ON THE FAIR SIDE FOR SOME REASON. I THINK THERE'S SOME ON THE WEST SIDE. I THINK SO TOO. YEAH. IN MY RECOLLECTION I THAT I DON'T HISTORICAL PERMISSION TALKED ABOUT WE GET SOME CURRENCY, WHAT WE HAVE OUT THERE. I I'VE GOT A, WELL ANYWAY, I APPRECIATE Y'ALL'S, UH, Y'ALL SUPPORT. WELL I AGREE. THE BUILDING IS NOT, IT'S NOT ANYTHING. WE ALL BE, IT'S USABLE BUT IT'S NOT ANYTHING WE READY BE PROUD OF, YOU KNOW, AND UH, JUST ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT IF WE CAN, UH, HAVE SOME HELP MAYBE PURCHASING MATERIAL, WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO USE SOME OUR GUYS TO HELP DO SOME WORK ON THE INTERIOR OF THE BUILDING AND UH, MAYBE SOME, YOU KNOW, UH, GET SOME INMATES TO HELP DO SOME THINGS TOO. UH, IT'S JUST A MATTER OF TRYING TO GET IT DONE, GET IT SCHEDULED. WE GOT A LOT OF, A LOT OF THINGS ON OUR PLATE, YOU KNOW. RIGHT. . YEAH. I THINK PEOPLE SUPPORT SOMETHING LIKE THAT TOO. YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A LOT OF REALLY GOOD, GOOD NEW PEOPLE COMING ON THAT ARE ACTUALLY COMMUNITY PEOPLE THAT ARE UNDERNEATH THE AGE OF EIGHT. THE EIGHTIES WAS NOT FAR. 80 NONE OF YOU'RE CLOSE TO 80. ALRIGHT. ANYBODY GOT ANYTHING ELSE FOR THE APPRECIATE ALL WORK YOU DO? YEAH. THANK YOU'ALL. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT GUYS, HERE'S THE SCHEDULE. I WANT EVERYBODY LISTEN UP SINCE THERE SEEMS TO BE SOME CONFUSION. . THESE TWO WERE, THESE TWO WERE HERE. ALRIGHT. THAT WE'RE, WE SHOWED LUNCH FROM 12 TO ONE. IT'S 12TH NOW AFTER, WELL CASEY COMING IN. YEAH. AND UH, YOU GOT PAM YAMA, DAVID AND LORETTA IS NOT COMING IN. AND UH, SO I'M GONNA MOVE, UH, GEORGIA AROUND, TRY TO GET IN ABOUT HERE ABOUT TWO 30 OR SO. SO MAYBE WE'LL WIND UP A LITTLE, A LITTLE EARLY. ALRIGHT. YEAH. AND SO I KNOW WE'VE HAD TWO FULL DAYS, BUT IT'S BEEN TWO, I THINK PRODUCTIVE DAYS FAR AS YOU KNOW. I DO WANT YOU TO KNOW THOUGH, WE'LL, WE'LL I KNOW WHAT WE'RE GONNA HEAR FROM PRECINCT FROM JASON AND THAT IS HE'S GOT APPROXIMATELY 40,000 PEOPLE IN THAT PRECINCT, EVEN THOUGH THE SQUARE MILES IS MUCH. YEAH. ABOUT 40,000 SOMEWHERE. YEAH. AND SO THAT YOU DO GET INTO, HE'S GOT A MORE POPULATION THAN WHAT UH, PRECINCT COURT HAS AND PLAYED HOSPITAL AND CAROL. SO JUST KIND OF BE THINKING ABOUT THAT COMPARED TO, YOU KNOW, UH, NOT THAT BE NEED TO DO ANYTHING, BUT I JUST KNOW THAT COMPARED WHAT COMPARED TO LETTING HIM HAVE A DEPUTY BRIAN A DEPUTY AND THEN, WELL THAT'S WHAT I SAID. IF WE GIVE JASON ONE MORE, I DON'T KNOW WHY THAT, THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. I DON'T KNOW WHY WE HAVE TO STICK IT WITH JASON FOR FIVE DAYS A WEEK. THIS, THIS THING, DO IT TWO DAYS OR TWO AND A HALF DAYS. CAN'T DO TWO AND A HALF. WELL THAT'S THE CASE, BUT WE'LL NEED TO MAKE A FULL TIME POSITION. WELL THAT'S WHAT I SAID BE, YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE AGAIN, I PROMISE YOU CONST AT YEAH. BUT AGAIN, THAT'S ON THE INTERSTATE IN MY BIGGEST CONCERN IS, IS I'LL YOU KEEP HAVING SO MANY DIFFERENT POLICE AGENCIES, IF IN OTHER WORDS IT ALMOST COME OUT BETTER SAYING, OKAY, LET'S PUT ON TWO MORE SHERIFF DEPUTIES AND TWO MORE PATROL OFFICER PUT AREA REQUIRE SHERIFF PATROL DOING MORE IF YOU SERVE THE PAPERS. THAT'S ONE OF THEM TRYING TO DO WHAT THE POLICE MEAN THE SHERIFF DOES. AND I DON'T KNOW, YOU DON'T, I'M SAYING BACK, WE SOME INSURANCE FROM THE TICKETS OR WARRANT IT GET CLOSER. YEAH, IT GET CLOSER TO PAYING I TO HAVE, I LIKE TO KNOW. I THINK WE'RE PRETTY CONSISTENT. WE'RE, WELL, I LIKE PERSONALLY TALK [03:55:01] ABOUT WHAT TIMEFRAME THEY FROM OR WHAT TIMEFRAME IF, IF, IF IF THREE QUARTERS OF A MILLION OF THEM WAS FROM 1999, 2005, WE'RE NOT GONNA COLLECT FOREVER IN MISSISSIPPI OR SOMETHING. I MEAN, YOU KNOW, MANY I'D LIKE TO ACTUALLY KNOW MANY, MANY CURRENT WITHIN THE LAST FIVE YEARS. YEAH. THEY'RE, WE, I MEAN THAT'S ALL I'M SAYING. I I'M NOT TRYING TO DIG HIM UP. I MEAN YOU CAN THROW FIGURES OUT THERE AND THAT'S KIND LIKE THE VEST. HOW COME I WANT MAKE VEST THIS YEAR? NONE OF THEM HAD A LITTLE VEST IN THE LAST FIVE YEARS. THEY TELL THEY HELD UP GUARANTEED FIVE YEARS. WELL, IT VARIES I GUESS, YOU KNOW, BUT EVERY ONE OF THEM, EVEN, THAT'S WHY I SAID WE HAVE ONE PLACE AND THEIR NAMES ON THE REGISTER. YOU GOT THIS DECEMBER THE SECOND, 1999. YOU SEE WHAT I'M SAYING? TRYING TO PUT EVERYTHING ON THE SHERIFF TRYING TO SAY MAYBE THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT NEEDS A, UH, WHAT DO YOU CALL IT? GENERAL SUPPLY. YEAH. BUT INVENTORY. YEAH. WHATEVER YOU CALL, YOU KNOW, THE SERVICE, WHAT WE CALL WITH THE UNIFORM, CHECK IT OUT, ALL THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY ALL YEAH. WELL I KNOW WE'RE GONNA HEAR ABOUT SAYING, YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES YOU ELIMINATE SOME, WE WE'RE CUTTING INTO SHORTEN OUR LUNCH BY 30 MINUTES. YOU KNOW, THE ANSWER IS YES. NO, JUST ONE WORD TO TELL MY YES OR NO, DON'T GO INS WE'RE TRYING TO GET WITH. ALRIGHT JUDGE, THANK YOU FOR, FOR BEING HERE. YES SIR. I KNOW THIS IS YOUR FIRST AT THIS. YOU WENT THROUGH THE SAME THING WITH JUDGE RICH AS WELL, SO, OKAY, GOOD. UH, AND UH, I, WE WALKED OVER TOGETHER AND SO JUDGE FLA SAID THAT, UH, HE DIDN'T REALLY KNOW, YOU KNOW WHAT, HE'S NOT ASKING FOR ANYTHING. HE DOESN'T KNOW THAT HE NEEDS ANYTHING. THAT'S, I GUESS THAT'S ONE GOOD THING ABOUT BEING MY FIRST, I REALLY DUNNO IF TEAM MEMBERS TO BE HONEST, WHAT THIS IS, IS, IS THE, UH, WHAT WHAT BUDGET FOR THIS YEAR. AND SO THERE ARE SEVERAL, YOU KNOW, SEVERAL DEPARTMENTS THAT ASK FOR ANY CHANGES JUST LIKE IT WAS. AND SO THAT'S, THAT'S KIND OF WHERE WE, WHERE WE ARE ON IT. UH, AND UH, YOU GOT, UH, WHAT YOU GOT, UH, Y'ALL ARE GONNA BID ANYWHERE. YOU GOT $20,000 IN EXTRA HELP AND YOU ONLY USE 71 9 2 5. I WASN'T USING ANY OF THAT. NOW VAC I'M ASSUMING, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT I DO HAVE A PART-TIME, UM, OFFER THAT SITS UP. SHE'S JUST PART-TIME. SHE DOESN'T GET BENEFITS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. $10 AN HOUR IS WHAT WE'RE PAYING HER. BUT I'M ASSUMING THAT'S WHERE THAT 20,000 COMING FROM, IS THAT YES SIR. OKAY. ALRIGHT. UM, AND YES, I, UH, RIGHT NOW I'M REALLY UTILIZING YEAH, I'M SURE YOU ARE. I'M TRYING TO KEEP HER UNDERNEATH THAT 40 HOURS. OBVIOUSLY MY COURT REPORTER STEPPING INTO HELP OUT. BUT, UM, I DUNNO, [04:00:04] I WOULD THINK THAT I'M GONNA GET PRETTY CLOSE TO, TO BE HONEST WITH YOU, THAT LINE 43 0 2, UH, MILEAGE MILLS AND LODGING, UH, YOU'VE NOT, AND YOU MAY NOT, THIS IS THROUGH APRIL 30TH ON THERE. AND I KNOW YOU'VE BEEN TO A SCHOOL TAKE I HAVE BEEN TO ONE AND I I AND I, I'VE JUST TURNED SOME OF THAT INTO KAREN AND THEN I'VE GOT ONE MORE. I JUST PAID FOR MY ROOM FOR THE VANCE FAMILY LAW. UH, THE GOOD THING IS THE STATE BAR PAYS FOR THE ACTUAL CLASS FOR THAT, WHICH IS, WHICH IS VERY EXPENSIVE. MORTGAGE. I JUST HAVE TO PAY MY OWN. THAT'S IT. I TRAVEL DOWN. THERE'S, I CAN GET DOWN THERE. SO, UM, AND I WOULD LIKE TO, MY, MY THOUGHTS ON THAT IS SINCE I DO FAMILY AND CRIMINAL, UH, ALTERNATED EVERY YEAR, GO TO FAMILY ONE YEAR CRIMINAL AND THE OTHER KIND OF BACK AND FORTH, I THINK THAT'S WHAT JUDGE CHI DOES TOO. YEAH. ALTERNATE BACK AND I GUESS ANYTIME THE LEGISLATURE MEETS ANYTIME THAT THE CASE WOULD BE ANY CHANGES. SO YES, SIR. SO THAT, THAT'S KIND OF WHAT I WAS SAYING. THAT IS. SO, UM, I KNOW AT LEAST HALF OF THAT WILL BE, AT LEAST IN HALF OF THAT. UM, HOPEFULLY I ALREADY PAID FROM PERSONAL AND THEN ON THE, UH, THAT 43 15 ON THE PRO RATA EXPENSE OF OUR COST OF THE FIRST ADMINISTRATOR, THAT'S ALREADY BEEN TRANSFERRED TO THE JUDGE. SO THAT WOULD BE ZERO DOUBT AND VISITING JUDGE EXPENSE. I GUESS THAT'S JUST, UH, I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY HOW THAT WORKED, WHETHER IT'S CHARGED TO THE JUDGE THAT BRINGS IN A VISITING JUDGE, I GUESS IT IS. YES. UM, YES. UM, I KNOW JUDGE JONES GOT MONEY AND THEN OF COURSE HE'S HAD NOW SOON AS HE GOT USE IT. SO I TO KEEP IT JUST IN CASE WE, YOU KNOW, WHO, WHO KNOWS, UH, IF THERE'S ANY CONFLICTS OBVIOUSLY. YEAH, IT'S GOOD TO, IF YOU DON'T USE IT, YOU DON'T USE IT. HOPEFULLY WE DON'T EVER HAVE THE NEED FOR IT. AND DO YOU USE, UH, JUDGE TIGER HAD USED SOME OF THAT IN THE PAST, UH, FEW YEARS. $400 IS ACTUALLY 20 13, 3 30 AND, UH, 2014 IT DOESN'T LOOK. AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT THOSE USED ARE. I GUESS I, I DO, I JUST TURNED IT IN INTO KAREN ALSO. UM, WE JUST HAD TO PAY IT JUNE 1ST. IT WAS PAID. OKAY. IT'S $310 FOR MY DUES. UM, THE TAXES AND FEES, WHICH IS ABOUT 400 THAT THEY WAIVED THAT FOR ME. AND THEN IT'S A HUNDRED DOLLARS FOR MY COURT REPORTER. AND THEN I THINK, I KNOW THE COORDINATOR HAS A CERTIFICATION. I DON'T, I DON'T DUNNO HOW MUCH THAT IS. THAT SOUNDS ABOUT YOU WOULD USE BOTH OF THAT. SOUNDS ABOUT OFFICE SUPPLIES. YOU FEEL OKAY ABOUT THAT BACK UP ON AGAIN, JUDGE, THAT'S PROBABLY ONE OF THE ONES I JUST DON'T REALLY KNOW ENOUGH ENOUGH ABOUT TO KNOW IF THAT'S GOOD OR NOT. I KNOW WE SPENT $90 ON THE BOOK AND WE DIDN'T HAVE ANYTHING. UH, WELL WE, YEAH WE DID. WE HAD $20. I I KNOW WE HAVE THE LIBRARY FUND THAT I USE GET MOST OF MY BOOKS FOR THE LIBRARY BENCH THAT WELL SOMETIMES THEY HAVE A SPECIAL SOMETHING OFFICER, I BELIEVE JUDGE HAD ASKED FOR THAT TO DO SOMETHING TO DO WITH THE COURT BOARD COORDINATOR HAD NEEDED SOMETHING AT SOME SEMINAR. THEY, AND, AND THAT'S, THAT'S, I I DON'T KNOW WHAT KIND OF EXPENSE I'M GONNA HAVE THERE. WHAT'S EVENTUALLY GONNA HAPPEN. UM, YOU KNOW, I DUNNO IF THERE'LL BE ONE, BUT IF I DO HAVE TO HAVE A NEW PERSON THAT FEELS THERE, OBVIOUSLY THERE'LL BE A TRAINING NEED TO GO, NEED TO GO TO IN THERE. OKAY. ALRIGHT. Y'ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT JUDGE? NO. UH, AND WE TRY TO TELL THE OTHER WE MET WITH, WE APPRECIATE, I KNOW ESPECIALLY YOUR EFFORTS AND ALL THE JUDGES FOR THAT MATTER ON MOVING THE CASES THROUGH AND I KNOW YOU HAVE A LOT GO THROUGH YOUR COURT, EVERYBODY, WE'RE GONNA LOOK, YOUR THING IS, I DON'T THINK ANY OF THOSE THINGS THAT I'VE TALKED TO Y'ALL ABOUT THAT MAYBE WE NEED DO, I DON'T THINK ANY OF THAT NEEDS TO COME OUTTA THIS PARTICULAR BUDGET. WE'RE GONNA FIND OTHER WAYS TO THOSE CAMERAS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE TO [04:05:01] BE ABLE TO DO IT. ANYTHING ELSE? ALRIGHT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. APPRECIATE, APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU. UH, PAM WILL BE AND I'VE ASKED PAM A LITTLE MORE INFORMATION. GRANT, WE THIS MORNING HERE. OKAY, HERE SHE COMES. YEAH, WE WERE JUST TALKING ABOUT IT. UHOH, MY EARS ARE RINGING IN A GOOD TIME. . SO, UH, UH, PAM'S OFFICIAL TITLE IS PROJECT MANAGER, BUT IT SHOULD PROBABLY SAY PROJECT MANAGER BECAUSE SHE HAS SEVERAL DIFFERENT THINGS THAT SHE DOES FOR US AS A COUNTY AND STILL OCCASIONALLY MAKES A TREE CALL. I THINK I DO I HER MIND ON A LOT LATELY. QUITE A FEW, THOSE DROWNING. AND YOU'VE JUST FALLEN OUT. FALLEN UP AGAIN. SO, UH, ACTUALLY I DON'T BELIEVE SHE WAS ASKING FOR, UH, ANYTHING, UH, DIFFERENT. UH, UH, THERE ARE A COUPLE OF, UH, THAT A LOT OF 'EM WERE TALKS ABOUT THE, UH, FIREMEN'S GRANT. A THOUSAND DOLLARS. YOU WANT TO TELL US? YES, THAT'S A GRANT THAT I APPLIED FOR, FOR EDUCATION FOR OUR FIREMEN IN THE YEARS PAST. WE'VE USED IT FOR OUR PROGRAMS LIKE THE CLOWN. UM, WHEN THEY WOULD GO OUT AND DO THE CLOWN X, WE BOUGHT A SPEAKER SYSTEM FOR THEM. SO THINGS LIKE THAT. SO WE USE IT FOR THE FIREMEN TO EDUCATE THE CHILDREN. AND THE OTHER ONE, THE $500, MY SON, UH, DID, UH, TRACKING FOR TEXAS FORESTRY SERVICE AND DONATED THE MONEY TO THE VETERAN'S WALL THAT HE MADE. SO THAT $500 WOULD GO TOWARD TREES. I HOPE TO PLAN THE S PARK. ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT HER? YOU, YOU ONLY SPEND $158 AND 76 CENTS IN YOUR GAS AND OIL AND OF COURSE THAT'S JUST, YOU, YOU, YOU HAVE A VEHICLE. YES. IT SITS HERE IN THE PARKING LOT AND SOMETIMES IT'S EASIER FOR ME TO JUST DRIVE MY CAR WHEN I'M GOING TO SOMEONE'S HOUSE ON LIKE HOME OR WEEKENDS. SO YOU DON'T USE A LOT OF THAT. RIGHT. PRIMARILY FOR FUEL. PAM, UH, WHENEVER WE HAVE SOMETHING COME UP THAT WE DON'T HAVE MONEY TO PAY FOR, FOR EXAMPLE, SNACKS, SHE JUST CHARGES THAT TO HER BUDGET, YOU KNOW, SO TO, TO MY, UM, THE EDUCATION FUND. YEAH. I DON'T USE AS MUCH MONEY, UM, ON MY SUMMER CAMPS AS THIS YEAR I'M LOOKING FOR A LOCATION TO HAVE IT BECAUSE CEDAR MOUNTAIN ROAD SOLD, SO I'VE GOTTA TO FIND A NEW LOCATION TO HAVE MY CAMPS. THAT WAS A WONDERFUL PLACE FOR YEARS. AND THEY WERE VERY GRACIOUS PLACE. YES. THEY, THEY HAVE SUMMER CAMPS. THEY, THE CAMPS COME IN THE CHURCHES. SO MAYBE IF I DO A SATURDAY, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING DIFFERENT, I CAN ARRANGE SOMETHING. OR EVEN THE LIBRARY, I CAN GO BACK. I USED TO DO IT AT SCHOOLS AND AT THE LIBRARY AND I CAN GO BACK TO THAT. IT'S JUST NOT AS FINE. AND THEN ON YOUR UH, YOU CUT IT TO A HUNDRED DOLLARS, THAT'S WHAT'S THERE. YOU'RE ASKING OR YOU'RE ASKING THAT? NO, THAT MONEY IS, THEY PUT THE GRANTS IN IN THERE. THAT'S THE GRANT FUNDING. OKAY. SO THEY PUT IT IN THERE. CARE, EXPLAIN THAT. WHEN WE WAIT TILL WE GET THE GRANT AND WHEN SHE GETS READY TO SPEND IT, WE COME TO COURT AND ASK FOR Y'ALL. AND THEN THE BUDGET FOR THE REVENUE THAT CAME IN FOR THE GRANT CHECK AND FOR HER EXPENDITURE, THEN SHE EXTENDED OUT TO THE FIRE DEPARTMENT. OKAY. OKAY. ALRIGHT. AND, UH, WOULD SHE MADE A SHEET, AND YOU MAY WANT TO TALK TO THE COURT ABOUT THIS, UH, KIND OF WHAT, WHERE YOU DO, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, PAM WEAR SEVERAL HATS, BUT ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT ONES SHE'S BEEN WORKING WITH CERTAINLY HAS BEEN THE GRANT STUFF AND SHE'S GONE TO SOME SCHOOLS AND MADE SOME FRIENDS AT TO GO TO HER OFFICE AND AT THE, UH, AT COG AS WELL. SO, UH, YOU WANNA KIND OF GO OVER THIS WITH US. UM, SO THESE ARE THE GRANTS THAT WE RECEIVED THIS PAST YEAR. WE DO HAVE FOUR GRANTS THAT ARE STILL OUT THERE. WE'RE WAITING TO HEAR FROM. UM, THAT'S THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT WAS BROUGHT IN THIS YEAR. THE ENHANCEMENT GRANT IS THE 40 22ND MENTAL HEALTH COURT. MENTAL HEALTH DRUG COURT, THE MURDER TRIAL GRANT. THE SECOND GRANT WILL BE JUST FOR THE BROWNLOW EXPENSES. WE WON'T BE ABLE TO TAKE, UM, THE WILLIAMS EXPENSES OUT OF THE GRANT. SO IT'S GONNA BE MAINLY JUST THE BROWNLOW EXPENSES. UH, TCEQ, UM, THAT'S GONNA BE THE $4,300, WHICH WILL NOW GO OVER TO MR. JOHNSON, I BELIEVE THAT'LL BE DOING THAT POSITION. AND, UM, THEN OF COURSE THE TREE GRANT, THE TREE FUNDING THAT [04:10:01] MY SON DONATED BACK. AND THEN A THOUSAND DOLLARS FOR THE FIREMEN. THIS, UH, MISSION GRANT. THE MISSIONS GRANT, THAT IS, THAT IS FOR THIS YEAR. SO, SO A PORTION OF THE MONEY, AND I WANNA SAY IT'S $6, I SHOULD HAVE FOUND OUT WHAT GOES FROM YOUR INSPECTIONS TO BACK TO THE COUNTY. EVERYBODY IN THE, EVERYBODY THAT GETS ONE IN KAUFMAN COUNTY AND THERE'S A FUND. AND THAT FUND HAS BEEN SITTING AND NOT BEING USED FOR YEARS BECAUSE OF THE STATE USING IT TO BALANCE THEIR , CORRECT? MM-HMM . SO A YEAR BEFORE LAST IS WHEN WE GOT THE LARGE AMOUNT OF SUM, AND THAT WAS YEARS THAT HAD BUILT UP AND THAT'S WHY WE GOT THE ALMOST $80,000 THAT WE STARTED THE PROGRAM WITH. SO IT WAS A NEW INCENTIVE. THEY GAVE US THE MONEY THAT WE, WE HAD COMING TO US, WHICH WAS ABOUT 59,000. AND THEN THERE WERE COUNTIES WHO DIDN'T WANT TO USE THEIR MONEY, WHO DIDN'T USE IT, WHO DIDN'T USE THEIR STUFF IN, AND THEY LOST THEIR MONEY. SO WE APPLIED FOR THAT MONEY AND WE GOT 28,000 OF THAT MONEY. SO THAT'S HOW WE JUST CONTINUE TO TRY TO APPLY FOR THE MONEY THAT THE OTHER PERSON NEXT YEAR YOU'LL APPLY AGAIN AND MM-HMM . SO THE 4,000, HOW MUCH? THE 4,000. WE HAVE SPENT ALL OF OUR EXCESS MONEY FOR YEARS. KAUFMAN COUNTY DIDN'T USE THEIR MONEY AND IT WAS SITTING THERE AND WE WERE ABOUT TO LOSE IT. RIGHT. AND SO, WE'LL EITHER WE SPEND IT OR WE BUILD IT BACK UP. I SUGGEST WE SPEND IT BECAUSE WE MIGHT LOSE IT. BUT IT LOOKS LIKE THEY'RE GONNA OPEN UP THE FUNDING WHERE THEY'VE BEEN HOLDING ONTO THAT MONEY, BALANCING THE BUDGET, WHATEVER THEY WERE DOING WITH IT. AND WE SHOULD SEE MORE MONEY. WE SHOULD, SHOULD SEE A LOT MORE MONEY. WE DON'T KNOW YET. WE DON'T KNOW. SURGEONS DON'T KNOW THE AMOUNT. MM-HMM. NO, NO. UM, THE MONEY THAT WAS ROLLED OVER, WE TALKED WITH BRIAN. IT WAS WHO WAS IN HERE BEFORE LUNCH AND THERE WAS SOME MONEY THAT WAS NOT SPENT LAST YEAR ROLLED OVER. AND THAT WAS, THAT WAS APPROXIMATELY $8,981. SO WE HAD THAT MONEY LEFT TO SPEND ON EQUIPMENT AND WITH MR. JOHNSON TAKING THE PROGRAM OVER, I'M SURE THERE'S SOMETHING THAT HE WOULD PREFER AS EQUIPMENT TO TAKE CARE OF HIM. WE HAVE A QUESTION FOR HIM AND HE WASN'T SURE, BUT IT, LIKE THE EQUIPMENT THEY WOULD'VE BOUGHT THAT EQUIPMENT HAS TO STAY WITH THE GRANT. SO I'M ALREADY WORKING ON A LIST AND I HAVE A LIST OF EVENTS PURCHASE AND IT WILL GO AND BE TAGGED NOW MOVED FROM HIS EQUIPMENT LIST OR INVENTORY LIST OVER TO MR. JOHNSON. SO IT FALLS WITH THE GRANT. YES. YES. THE ONE THING THAT WE REALLY WANTED TO PURCHASE WAS A POLE CAMERA. AND SO THIS MIGHT BE ENOUGH MONEY TO USE THAT BECAUSE A POLE CAMERA'S VERY, WE COULD USE THAT IN, IN DIFFERENT AREAS. THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT COULD USE THAT FOR SOMETHING. WE CAN USE POLE CAMERA, WHOLE CAMERA. UM, WELL, IF IT HAS TO FOLLOW, IT HAS TO FOLLOW GRANT. HOW DO WE GIVE IT TO THE SHERIFF'S? DEPART ATE. THEY COULD USE IT. THEY COULD USE IT TO BAR IT. MM-HMM . SO A POLE CAMERA WOULD BE, UM, LIKE A THU COULD COME OUT, ONCO COULD COME OUT, CLIMB THE POLE, SET THE CAMERA TOP IN PLACE. NO ONE KNOWS WHAT'S GOING ON. NO ONE KNOWS THAT IT'S THERE. THEN THE, THE PERSON THAT'S DOING THE ENFORCEMENT COULD BE SITTING OFF SOMEWHERE ELSE AND ON THEIR LAPTOP WALKING WHAT'S GOING ON IN THAT CAMERA. AND SO THERE'S A LOT OF ISSUES, A LOT OF THINGS THAT WE COULD USE THAT CAMERA FOR. MM-HMM . BUT DO YOU THINK THAT, DO YOU THINK THE GRANT WOULD BE OFFICER AND I DON'T KNOW THAT WE WOULD BE ABLE TO HIRE, HIRE SOMEONE WITH THAT MONEY. SO PROBABLY AT THIS TIME WOULDN'T BE A GOOD IDEA TO DO THAT UNTIL WE KNOW MORE. BECAUSE, AND WITH A CHANGE IN THE COUNTERFEIT INSPECTION STICKERS. BUT THEY'RE ALWAYS GONNA OPEN UP NEW PROGRAMS THAT THIS WAS A NEW PROGRAM WHERE WE LATCHED ONTO IT. SO THERE'LL BE NEW PROGRAMS. SO MAYBE THERE'LL BE SOMETHING ELSE THAT WILL BE, THAT WE CAN APPLY FOR FUNDING. AND I WOULD IMAGINE THAT MONEY WILL START BEING, YOU KNOW, THE SESSION IS ENDED YESTERDAY, SO THEY STILL, TWO MONTHS BEFORE WE KNOW PAM, I'M SHOWING THAT WE HAD A CARRY OVER FROM LUNCH YEAR, LIKE 20,009, FIVE. SOME OF THAT MONEY MUST HAVE BEEN, I'M JUST STOP THIS FROM KW AND IT WAS 8,000 981 51. WHAT? UM, OUT OF THE ADMISSIONS FUND? NO MA'AM. YOU'RE READING IT WRONG. IT WAS, WE'VE SPENT 53 40, WHAT WE HAVE UNENCUMBERED IS THAT 8 89 THAT WE HAVE HAVEN'T USED. WE HAVEN'T USED THAT'S WHAT THAT'S 14,000 321 65 THAT WE HAD BUDGETED ORIGINALLY THAT WE WERE GONNA GET FOR THIS YEAR. THE CARRYOVER FROM LAST YEAR. OKAY. SO HE, HE MUST HAVE TAKEN THE 4,000 THAT WERE ALREADY, IT'S 4,080 900 B THAT NUMBER. Y'ALL CLEARED THAT ONE. YEAH, I'M PRETTY SURE THAT'S WHAT HE DID. YEAH, THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT HE DID. HE PUT 4,000 IN THAT ACCOUNT BECAUSE IT'S THE EMISSIONS ADDING TOGETHER. WHAT'S BEEN SPENT, WHAT WE MAKE THE [04:15:01] 14TH MM-HMM . WE HAVE 13, SO, BUT HE HAD 20,000 9 0 5 THAT THEY DID NOT EXPEND LAST YEAR THAT WE CARRIED FORWARD. SO ALTOGETHER HE HAS 35 AND HE SPENT, UH, 43. OKAY. BUT WE DO HAVE TO USE THAT 89 ON EQUIPMENT BECAUSE THAT'S HOW THE GRANT WAS WRITTEN. AND THE EQUIPMENT HAS TO BE, I MEAN THEY DON'T JUST NO. THAT MAY APPROVE. I HAVE TO SEND, UM, INFORMATION IN. I HAVE TO GO THROUGH AND, AND ALL THE, YOU KNOW, DIFFERENT DETAILS ABOUT IT AND THEY VERIFY IT AND SAY YES OR NO AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER BACK AND FORTH UNTIL WE RUN OUT OF PAPER AND, AND UNTIL WE OWE THIS. OKAY. COME ON. SPEND 8,900 HOURS IN MAN HOURS. WE'VE GONE THROUGH THREE MANAGERS SINCE WE GOT THIS NEW GRANT. THREE DIFFERENT PEOPLE THAT I'VE BEEN WORKING. WELL, WHEN WE GOT THE NEW GOVERNOR, EVERYBODY GOT REASSIGNED AND EVERYTHING. EVEN IN OUR, UM, GRANTS, OUR MURDER TRIAL GRANTS, THAT'S BEEN A, IT'S BEEN A LOT. YEAH. THEY'RE GOING THROUGH A LEARNING PROCESS TOO. THEY ARE. THE GRANT OFFICERS ARE, THEY WOULD DEAL WITH MM-HMM . IT'S BEEN NIGHTS THAT WE'VE BEEN ON THAT PHONE UNTIL SIX O'CLOCK ON MY WAY HOME TALKING WITH THEM, TRYING TO GET THINGS FIGURED OUT. SO THEY'RE, THEY'RE TRYING. SO ANYWAY, AND THEN THERE ARE THE OTHER PROJECTS AND PROGRAMS THAT I DO, UM, IN COMMISSIONER'S COURT, I BELIEVE, UM, MAYBE MR. SHANE, WE ASKED ABOUT A WELCOME PACKAGE FOR THE NEW RESIDENTS TO PUT SOMETHING TOGETHER. AND SO I'M WORKING ON THAT. AND THEN WE DEFINITELY ARE WORKING ON OUR LOW COST CLINIC FOUR TIMES A YEAR FOR THE ANIMAL CONTROL. UM, JUDGE MENTIONED THAT I TAKE DIFFERENT THINGS OUT OF MY BUDGET AND ANIMAL CONTROL. SOME OF THE THINGS THAT I'LL TAKE IF I'M GONNA GO EAT TO PRINT THINGS OR DO THAT, I JUST KIND OF LEAVE IT OUTTA MY BUDGET TO DO THAT. UM, ONE OF THE THINGS PAM DOES, AS YOU ARE AWARE OF, SHE IS KIND OF LIAISON WITH, UH, THE, UH, ANIMAL, ANIMAL CONTROL. EXACTLY. . AND UH, THAT IS SOMETHING THAT SOME POINT IN TIME WE JUST ABSOLUTELY GOT THE ADDRESS AND THERE'S GRANTS THAT ARE OUT THERE, BUT YOU JUST GOTTA KNOW HOW, WHO THEY, YOU KNOW, WHERE THEY ARE OR WHAT, WHAT IS ATTRACTIVE TO THEM AND ALL THAT KIND OF, SO CAN SHE FIND A GRANT FOR THEM? SO GOING DOWN THERE. GOING DOWN THERE ONE. YEAH. I THINK THAT IF WE WERE ABLE TO FIND THE FUNDING TO BUILD ONE THROUGH THE COUNTY BUDGET, WE CAN FIND THE FUNDING TO RUN. 'CAUSE ALL THE SHELTERS AROUND US, THEY NEVER BUY FOOD. THEY NEVER DO ANYTHING. OH, REALLY? DONATED. THERE'S DONATED MONEY. BE, I MEAN LIKE, LIKE, UM, WHEN WE VISITED, WE WILL, I WENT TO THE SPCA, UM, CHIEF SPILLMAN AND I WENT AND WE VISITED TO LEARN A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT THEY'RE DOING. AND UM, THEY DON'T EVER BUY DOG FOOD. MM-HMM. THEY DON'T EVER BUY DOG FOOD. THEY DON'T EVER BUY ANYTHING. IT'S ALL DONATED. AND THEN YOU JUST SEE VOLUNTEERS PUSHING AROUND AND MS. REESE WAS THERE AND SHE'S, YOU'VE PROBABLY HEARD OF THE REESE FAMILY AND THE PRODUCT DONATIONS THAT THEY MAKE, THEY MAKE A LOT OF MONEY AND WE GOT TO SIT DOWN AND VISIT WITH HER AND SHE'S INTERESTED IN WHAT'S GOING ON IN KAMAN COUNTY. YEAH. AND THEN WE HAD A GROUP FROM LONGVIEW OR GRAY COUNTY THAT HAD CONTACTED MM-HMM . BUT THE ISSUE SEEMS TO BE HAVING A FACILITY, YOU, YOU'RE OFFICIAL, THERE'S NOT MANY TO STARTED. YEAH. THERE'S MONEY TO CONTINUE OVER VISIT WITH NEWCOR TO SEE IF THEY MIGHT BE WILLING TO MAKE US A IN YES. YEAH. MAKE US A DEAL AND WE CALL BACK WITH THEM. BUT THE PROBLEM OF IT IS IF IT'S IN THE CITY, UH, AND IF WE PUT IT OUT AT THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE WHERE WE HAVE ROOM, YOU KNOW, THE JAIL AREA, IT'S IN THE CITY. IT IS IN THE CITY AND YOU GOT THE BRICK, YOU KNOW THE SO WHICH I MEAN THAT MAY NOT BE A DEAL BREAKER, BUT IT IS A LITTLE MORE EXPENSE. BUT THE SHERIFF'S, THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE IN THE CITY TOO. YEAH. I MEAN THE COUNTY, THE NEW COUNTY. YEAH. YES. YEAH, I KNOW. I MEAN THERE MAY BE ANOTHER LOCATION BUT UH, AND THE STATE GUIDELINES, SO IT HAS TO BE A CERTAIN SQUARE FOOTAGE, BUT NEW WAS TO DO THEIR MATERIALS AT COST AND THEY ACTUALLY GOT PLANS. I SENT THEM PLANS FROM THE MESQUITE SHELTER AND THE CEDAR AND THE CEDAR HILL SHELTER THAT WE VISITED SO THAT THEY COULD LOOK AT IT. WE PUT IT ON HOLD RIGHT NOW JUST BECAUSE WE DIDN'T KNOW WHAT WAS GOING ON AND THAT'S WHEN EVERYTHING HAPPENED IN THE COUNTY HAD STEPPED AWAY FROM THAT TO BE THIS OTHER. WE DO HAVE THE 5 98 PROPERTY OUT THERE. RIGHT. YOU OUTTA THE CITY IN IT. IT'S OUTTA THE CITY. THERE YOU GO. I PLACE DON'T YOU HAVE ABOUT FIVE NUMBERS? I THINK SO. IT'S JUST A FEW MINUTE HOUSE. [04:20:01] WE HAVE PERFECT DRAINAGE. IT'S ALL DOWN HERE. ONLY GOOD THING ABOUT THAT TWO, FIVE BEING BETWEEN THE TWO BIGGEST POPUL MORE VOLUNTEERS. SHELTERS GET MORE VOLUNTEERS. WELL, AND WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO ENTICE IN COMING IN WITH US AND IS IN, WHEN I SAY COME IN WITH US, THEY MIGHT HELP US. THAT'S RIGHT. PLACE ROAD BE GOOD. PLACE BE REALLY EXPENSIVE PIECE OF PROPERTY. SO THEY, THEY GET EVERYTHING AROUND THAT WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO SELL THAT PIECE OF ALREADY PRETTY EXPENSIVE. WE COULD PROBABLY ALREADY BUILD THE SHELF WITH MONEY FROM ANYWAY. IT'S SOMETHING WE REALLY ARE GONNA HAVE. AND WE THIS NOW FOR THREE OR FOUR YEARS. JUST ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT, YOU KNOW, WE GET STARTED ON TO DEAL WITH THEY AUSTIN DIVISION GOVERNOR'S OFFICE. WE JUST HAD TO GET IN LINE. WE, THEY WERE GONNA CLOSE. JEFF SAID YOU CAN'T GO UNTIL YOU GET SOMETHING THAT IN A NIGHTMARE. WELL THE MUER BUILDINGS THEN YOU TALK WITH THEM. WE DID. I TALK WITH THEM. THEY DO A GRANT ONCE A YEAR. UM, NOT SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD EVER PROBABLY GET FUNDED THROUGH, BUT, BUT THEY MIGHT BE ABLE TO HELP US WITH THE COST. JUST LIKE, UM, DAY FOR THOUSAND. I DON'T HOW BIG THIS BILL WOULD NEED TO BE. WELL WE'D HAVE, SEE WHAT THE REQUIREMENTS ARE AND WHAT DID I, IT WAS HUGE. I SAID, YOU KNOW WHAT, I HEAR ALL THESE REQUIREMENTS, MAN, YOU KNOW, YOU TURN AROUND AND YOU HEAR ABOUT 'EM, YOU HEAR ABOUT IT, YOU HEAR ABOUT 'EM AND THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN SOMEBODY POPS THE SHELTER UP OVER HERE AND IT DOESN'T MEAN CLOSE TO ALL THESE THEY TALK ABOUT AND THEY'RE RUNNING AND IT'S OKAY. NOW, WHEN WE WENT ON THE VISIT, WE STARTED OFF AT VILLE AND WHEN WE GOT OUT AT VILLE THAT MORNING, IT WAS BRIAN, UM, MR. WEAVERS AND I, AND THEN MR. MANNING, SOMEONE ELSE WAS WITH US AND WE GOT OUT AT THE, AT THE CITYVILLE SHELTER. IT SMELLED SO BAD. MM-HMM . IT WAS SO LITTLE. THOSE DOGS WERE COMING THERE. I GOT BACK IN THE CAR AND SAID, I'M NOT GOING IN THIS BUSINESS. I CAN'T DO THIS. IT WAS BAD. IT WAS REALLY, REALLY BAD. BUT THEN WE WENT TO MESQUITE AND WE SAW A MESQUITE SHELTER AND IT WAS REALLY NICE WITH A REALLY NICE ACK. SO A MEDIOCRE, YOU KNOW, SOMEWHERE IN BETWEEN SOMETHING THAT PEOPLE WOULD WANNA COME TO WHO WANNA GO TO SOMETHING THAT ISN'T VERY, BUT THE KEY TO IT IS WE DON'T WANNA RUN IT. NO. WE WANT, IT'S A NIGHTMARE. I WENT IN CITY OF MONT ONE DAY AND, AND GO THIS PCA, YOU KNOW, I USED DONATE THE TRANSFER AND ALL FOR THEM TREE ALONG WITH WHAT'S HER NAME IN CARROLLTON TOO. I DID BOTH OF THEM. AND, AND THE UH, THE DALLAS ONE, IT WAS NINTH CREEK. BUT YOU HAD TO DO THAT. AND I'M SURE A LOT OF THEM, AND IT JUST DEPENDS ON THE HEALTH THAT DAY AND WHAT TIME OF DAY YOU'RE THERE. MAKE THE BUSINESS. YEAH. IF YOU GET THERE RIGHT AFTER THEY WASH OUT EVERYTHING CAGE AND EVERYTHING'S GOOD AND YOU KNOW, THE, ALL THE DRAINS THAT UNSTOP AND THEY, BECAUSE THEY PUT HOSES IN THE DRAINS AND TURN 'EM ON FULL BLAST. THAT FLUSHES ON DOWN THE SEWER. WE HAVE A LADY THAT'S ONE OF OUR BAILIFFS OVER HERE AT THE, UH, COURTHOUSE AND SHE IS PASSIONATE ABOUT THIS. OH, SHE HAS, SHE HELPS FIND HOMES FOR THESE DOGS THAT WE WERE PICKING UP. SO YEAH, I MEAN SHE, SHE JUST LOVES IT AND WOULD BE A GOOD FACILITATOR IN FOREST PROBABLY. SHE COULD DO IT. YEAH. SHE, I MEAN SHE KNOWS ALL ABOUT THE LAWS AND, AND SHE HAS THE CONTACTS. YEAH. YOU KNOW, IT'S KINDA LIKE, KINDA LIKE ME SINCE I'M ON DEAD END, YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHAT HAPPENS. OH YES. MM-HMM. I HAVE SEVEN DOGS AND THEY'RE ALL TRACE NOW. IT'S WEEK. THEY CAN'T DO IT ANYMORE. RIGHT. I MEAN THEM ABOUT DOG OUT, YOU KNOW, WITH THE CATS AND THE DOGS. AND ARE Y'ALL FRIENDS ON THE FACEBOOK PAGE? DO YOU SEE THE DOCTOR POST IT EACH DAY? OH NO, I DON'T. I DON'T. JUST SO YOU KNOW HOW MANY ARE COMING THROUGH. AND THE CATS, WE SPENT OVER $4,000 AND 15 DAYS ON CATS. BUT THEY SAID IT WOULD BE COMING IF IT WAS SPRING TIME. NOT MUCH. AND EVERY TIME THOSE BILLS COME IN OR EVERY TIME A PICTURE COMES IN, I POST 'EM. USUALLY ONCE I GET HOME AT NIGHT, THAT'S SOMETHING I DO, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE YOU'RE SO BUSY DURING THE DAY AND IT JUST BREAKS MY HEART. 'CAUSE I KNOW THERE'S ANOTHER 75, ANOTHER 75, THEY'RE PROBABLY NOT GONNA SURVIVE. YEAH, NO. WITH THAT FACILITY. BUT YOU GOT A LOT OF, A LOT OF FACEBOOK. WE ARE GETTING A LOT [04:25:01] OF 'EM SAVED. YEAH. UM, PEOPLE ARE CONSTANTLY, SO I HAVE TO CONSTANTLY BE LOOKING AT IT. SOMETIMES I'M PARTY AT LOOKING AT THE COMMENTS AND THEY'LL SAY, THAT'S MY DOG. WHERE DO I FIND IT? SO I STARTED TRYING TO POST EVERY DAY THE PHONE NUMBER FOR THE LOCATION. SO THEY'LL SEE IT AND THEY'LL GO AND THEY'LL CALL 'EM BECAUSE IF THEY RECLAIM WITHIN SEVEN, TWO HOURS, THEY DON'T GET CHARGED ANYTHING. WE STILL GET CHARGED, BUT THEY DON'T GET CHARGED AND THEY, AFTER SEVEN, TWO HOURS IT BECOMES THEIRS. THE SHELTER'S ANIMAL AND WHATEVER HAPPENS TO IT AFTER THAT. WELL ANYWAY, THAT'S KIND OF AN UPDATE AND, BUT IT IS SOMETHING MAYBE, YOU KNOW, ONCE WE GET PAST THE BUDGET AND EVERYTHING, MAYBE WE CAN KIND OF GET US A, TRYING TO DO SOMETHING WITH THE BUILDING. WE JUST NEED TO KNOW MORE FEW MORE DETAILS ABOUT WHAT SIZE THE BUILDING WOULD NEED TO BE AND HOW, YOU KNOW WHAT, WHAT I MEAN I WHAT UP? I'D LOVE TO TAKE A FEW OF YOU TO SOME OF THESE SHELTERS THAT WE SAW. I'D LOVE TO, I'D LIKE TO SEE THE SPECIFICATIONS FOR THAT'S GONNA TELL YOU HOW EXPENSIVE STAINLESS STEEL. WELL, ONE I CLASS SOME PEOPLE THE YEAH, BUT IT'S GOING BE A SUPER DUPER I GUESS. I DON'T KNOW. YEAH, I GUESS ONE THING THAT WE NEED TO LOOK AT IS PREPAREDNESS FOR THE ANIMALS IN EMERGENCY. SO JUST WHAT WE DO. WOULD WE TAKE THE ANIMALS, THOSE KIND OF THINGS. AND SO I NEED TO TRY TO FIND ANOTHER UNDERSTAND, I DUNNO A LOT ABOUT THAT. I KNOW HE USED TO MAKE THE SIGNS, MAKE THEM MAKING DANNY, I THINK WHERE RANDY, I'M SURE RANDY CAN. AND HE SAID HE HAD THE TIME TO DO IT. WELL WE GO, WE HAVE THAT. WELL, WAYNE WAS SUPPOSED TO BE GETTING WITH HIM BECAUSE I TOLD HIM TO GET WITH HIM AND FIND OUT, YOU KNOW, IF HE'S NOT GONNA MAKE SAND, LET'S FIND OUT IF HE'S GOT ALL THE EQUIPMENT, IT'S ALL SITTING RIGHT UP THERE BECAUSE I'M GONNA TAKE IT. WE'LL START BACK. SO I MEAN IF, IF THEY'RE NOT GONNA KNOW, WELL WE BUY THOSE. YEAH, WE CAN CHECK WITH UH, RANDY AND SEE, I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW, UH, WHY HE WAS CUT OFF FROM MAKING, BUT I KNOW HE'S MADE SOME NO, NO, THEY CUT HIM OUT. THEY HAVEN'T MADE SENSE FOR QUITE A WHILE NOW. OKAY. LEMME CHECK IN. PICK UP ALL THE I'LL MACHINE. HE'S GONNA HAVE THE CUTTERS AND ALL THAT. OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. MUCH APPRECIATE. ALRIGHT GUYS. TASER, THEY'RE, THEY'RE OVER A THOUSAND DOLLARS EACH. OKAY. BETWEEN 1,011 HUNDRED OR? YEAH, I THINK IT'S LIKE 3074 FOR THREE OF 'EM. AND THAT'S THE TASER, THE HOLSTER OR WHATEVER YOU CLOSE. 11 PISTOL. THAT'S A LITTLE BIT HIGHER THAN WHAT I THINK IS ESTIMATED. YEAH, YOU DIDN'T SEE YAMA. I THINK SHE'S NEXT. SHE [04:30:02] OKAY. I THINK WE'LL GO AHEAD AND MOVE ON TO YOU. IF YOU'D LIKE TO CALL ON THAT. WE MAY TALK YOU INTO THIS ANIMAL CONTROL FACILITY. YEAH, I WAS ACTUALLY SITTING THERE THINKING ABOUT IT IS WHEN I WAS IN TARRANT COUNTY, THE FORT WORTH ANIMAL CONTROL FACILITY AND THE ARM ANIMAL CONTROL FACILITY WERE TWO OF OUR BIGGEST COMMUNITY SERVICE PROVIDERS. WE HAD A TON OF OFFENDERS THAT SIGNED UP TO OUT. THAT'S GOOD TO KNOW. YEAH. BUT YOU DIDN'T RUN IT ON A DAY TO DAY BASIS. NOT VOLUNTEERING. ALRIGHT, WELL THIS, UH, Y'ALL MET I THINK MET DAY. HE'S BEEN TO THE COURT OF TIME OR TWO AND VISIT WITH US. AND HOW LONG HAVE YOU BEEN HERE NOW? UH, UM, JULY 1ST IS MY START DATE. SO EVEN A YEAR, 10 MONTHS, ALMOST A YEAR, MONTHS. AND UH, SO EVERYBODY KIND OF KNOWS. UH, JUST TELL US HOW YOUR, YOUR FUNDING WORKS. UH, SOME OF IT COMES FROM THE STATE. MM-HMM AND THEN, BUT THE MAJORITY OF IT ARE A LARGE AMOUNT OF IT COMES FROM YOUR PROBATIONERS THAT ARE ASSIGNED TO THE PROBATION. JUST SO EVERYBODY KIND OF HAS A UH, UNDERSTANDING OF THAT. WE UM, RECEIVED 58% OF OUR FUNDING THROUGH THE COLLECTION OF PROBATION, PROBATION FEES IN TAMAN COUNTY. HAVE HISTORIC BEEN AROUND $50 PER MONTH PER PROBATIONARY. WHENEVER I GOT HERE, I TALKED TO THEM, HER AND OTHER PREVIOUS DIRECTOR AND I TALKED TO THE COUNTY JUDGES AND WE RAISED THAT $60 PER MONTH BECAUSE IT'S UM, THE PROBATION FEES HADN'T CHANGED IN OVER A DAY AND THEY LAW ALLOWED 'EM TO BE RAISED UP TO $60 PER MONTH ABOUT 12 YEARS AGO. SO WE WENT AHEAD AND MOVED OURS UP TO $60 PER MONTH. THAT COLLECTION ACCOUNT FOR 58% OF OUR BUDGET. THE REMAINING PORTION OF OUR BUDGET COMES FROM STATE FUNDS. WE RECEIVE A COUPLE DIFFERENT FORMULA FUNDING FROM THE STATE. IT IS, WE RECEIVE UM, 42 CENTS PER DAY FOR THE FIRST 182 DAYS THAT A MISDEMEANOR PROBATION IS ON PROBATION. AFTER THAT WE DON'T RECEIVE ANY OTHER FUNDING FOR THAT PERSON OTHER THAN INVOLVING COLLECTING PROBATION FEES. AND WE RECEIVE A SET AMOUNT PER FELONY OFFENDER FOR EACH DAY. THEY'RE ON PROBATION UP TO FIVE YEARS. UM, AFTER THAT TIME THEN ALL WE GET IS THE PROBATION FEES. IT IS OUR FUNDING BEING BASED ON OUR TOTAL POPULATION. I RAN OUR NUMBERS FROM ONE YEAR AGO COMPARED OUR NUMBERS FROM TODAY AND WE HAVE MORE FELONIES ON PROBATION, BUT WE HAVE FEWER MISDEMEANORS FOR A TOTAL DECREASE IN THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT ARE CURRENTLY ON PROBATION. PART OF THAT IS LOOKING AT IT IS WITH JUDGE RIDGE AND JUDGE LEWIS, UM, TOWARDS THE STANDARD OF LAST YEAR, THE PRODUCTION FROM THOSE COURTS, WE RECEIVED MUCH FEWER REFERRALS FROM REPORTS. UM, BUT NOW WITH THE NEW JUDGES IN AND THIS YEAR THE REFERRALS FROM COMING TO THE COURTS ARE ACTUALLY UP QUITE BIT BUT SPEC OUR NUMBERS TO OVERALL IN FUTURE. THEY'RE RUNNING QUITE A FEW CASES THROUGH THERE, CORRECT? YEAH. YES. WE HAD PREVIOUSLY BEEN AVERAGING ABOUT MAYBE 10 TO 15 INTAKE PER WEEK PRIOR TO JANUARY ONE AFTER JANUARY ONE. WE'RE AGING ANYWHERE FROM 30 TO 45 INTAKES PER, SO WE ALREADY HAD, YEAH, SO IT'S UM, WE RECEIVED NO DIRECT FUNDING FROM THE COUNTY. THE SUPPORT THAT WE DO RECEIVE FROM THE COUNTY IS FOR THE PROVIDING OF THE, UM, PHYSICAL OFFICE SPACE, UM, EQUIPMENT, MAINTENANCE FACILITIES, THAT TYPE OF STUFF. AND I'LL, I'LL TELL YOU THIS, DAVID HAS BEEN HERE, UH, AND PERHAPS WE DIDN'T ASK BEN TO TO DO ENOUGH, BUT UH, HE'S REALLY GOOD ABOUT HELPING US GET PEOPLE TO UH, LIKE THEY'RE PAINTING BUT PRECINCT FREE SUB COURTHOUSE, YOU'VE GOT A COUPLE OF PROFESSIONAL PAINTERS THAT ARE ON PROBATION , THEY DO WORK, BUT THEY PROVIDE THEIR OWN PAINT EQUIPMENT. YES. IS THAT RIGHT? WE'RE HAVING THEM BRING THEIR OWN OWN PROFESSIONAL OUTDOOR PAINT SPRAYERS AND FOR THEM PROVIDING THEIR EQUIPMENT, WE ARE GIVING THEM UM, A LITTLE BIT OF CREDIT ON THEIR COMMUNITY SERVICE IN ADDITION TO FISCAL HOURS WORK. WE, IF THEY PROVIDE THEIR EQUIPMENT, WE'RE BE LITTLE COMFORTABLE WITH THAT AS WELL. IF YOU HAVE THE PAIN AND SUPPLIES, I CAN GET YOU THE WORKERS. YEAH. AND I, YOUR BARN LOOKS HORRIBLE ALL TALKING ABOUT MY BARN NOW. YOUR BARN ESPECIALLY, BUT WHAT WE'RE DOING OVER THERE, PAUL AND THIS ARE OVER THERE AND I THINK THEY DID LAST WEEK THERE WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE IT SO IT DIDN'T PEEL OFF, YOU KNOW MM-HMM . SO THEY WENT TO SHERWIN WILLIAMS AND GOT SOME SORT OF TREAT CHEMICAL OR TREATMENT THAT THEY PUT ON THE FACILITY AND THEN YOUR GUYS ARE GOING TO COME ALONG AND PAINT MAINTENANCE ALL AND THEM, THEY GOT [04:35:01] ABOUT HALF THE BUILDING DONE AND THEY HAD TO GO MEET WITHIN INSURANCE ADJUSTER AND THEY SOLD A SMART SMALL PART ON THE HALF THAT THEY GOT DONE THAT THEY GOTTA GO BACK OVER. UM, DUE TO THE WEATHER THIS PAST WEEKEND, WE WERE UNABLE UNABLE TO START. YEAH. AND SO OUR PLAN IS TO START THIS WEEKEND, WEEKEND OF FRIDAY, SEE HOW FAR WE GET WITH THE CRIME AND THEN WE'VE GOT THE PROBERS LINED UP FOR NEXT THREE TO FOUR WEEKS. ALL TO KNOCK THAT OUT EVERY WEEKEND YOU I'LL VISIT, WE'LL GET ABSOLUTELY. AND UH, INSIDE PAINTING, WE'VE NOT USED IT FOR ANY INSIDE PAINTING THAT I'M AWARE OF BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, IT MAY BE A, MIGHT BE AN ISSUE, YOU KNOW, BUT, UH, CERTAINLY THE OUTSIDE. BUT WE HOPE TO GET THIS WHOLE BUILDING OVER THERE KIND OF, YOU KNOW, MAKE IT LOOK A LITTLE BIT BETTER. I MEAN IT'S GOT THREE DIFFERENT COLOR OF PAINTS ON IT, UH, NOW AND SO ONE I, NO, IT'S GOT A ONE ENGINE WIDE AND THEN THE NEXT IT MAY HAVE FOUR. I DUNNO, IT'S GOT THREE OR FOUR DIFFERENT COLORS. YEAH. PAUL HAD SAID WHEN THEY WERE USING THAT PAINT REMOVER, THEY GOT FROM CERTAIN OILS THAT THEY SAID THAT THAT WOULD TAKE OFF UP TO FIVE LAYERS OF PAINT. AND HE SAID NOW IN ONE SECTION WHERE THEY STILL HAVE TO DO SOME MORE WORK, THERE'S STILL ABOUT FIVE OR SIX LAYERS OF S****Y GLASS TAKEN OFF. SOME OF THEM MAY BE BECAUSE OF VANDALISM OR GRAFFITI. GRAFFITI. YEAH. BUT ANYWAY, WE DO APPRECIATE YOU DOING THAT. AND THEN SKI, I DON'T KNOW WHETHER WE TALKED THE OTHER DAY AND YOU KNOW, HE'S ARRANGING AND AS SOON AS HE DRIVES UP A BIT HE'S GONNA GO OVER AND MOW MOW MOWING AND HE DOING, HE'S DOING THE MOWING AROUND THE SUB COURTHOUSE IN. WE DON'T HAVE TO PAY, THEY FURNISH THE EQUIPMENT TOO SO WE CAN DO YOU COULD DO OFF OF THEM. YOU KNOW, IT'S UM, OVER IN 40 WE HAVE A BIGGER LOT. ZERO I THE THERE AND SITTING THERE ON THE DAY KNOCK OUT WHAT I, EQUIPMENT OPERATOR. YEAH. I THINK ABOUT THAT SEAN. I RUN CREEK. BUT VERY LAX COULD, I MEAN, WELL WE ALSO, IT IS, I'VE HAD GUYS IN THE PAST WITH TARRANT COUNTY, IT'S, I'M TRYING TO GET A LITTLE MORE PROACTIVE COMMUNITIES SERVICE HERE, BUT WE HAD KIND OF TALKED ABOUT IT. I HAD GUYS IN THE PAST WITH TARRANT COUNTY THAT THEY'D GO OUT TO THE COMMISSIONER COURT BARNS AND AT THE BEGINNING OF THE DAY THEY'D GO OUT WITH THE ROAD CREW AND THEY, THE ONES STANDING THERE WITH THE STOP SITE FLAG ME OUR SHOVEL. THEY WORKED AS WAGONER, THEY WORKED AS A SHOVEL AND THEN GOT FREED UP A PAID STAFF FOR YEAH, EXACTLY. YEAH. SEE WE WAS USING MY ONE, BUT THEY WORKED ABOUT THREE HOURS AND THEY, THEY COME BACK IN, SAID HE'S SICK. . YEAH. I MEAN THREE HOURS PRETTY. YEAH. BUT YOU HAD TO HAUL 'EM BACK TO TOWN. NO, SEE THOSE UM, ERS IN TARRANT COUNTY, ONE OF THE THINGS WE DID THERE IS ANY YEAR IF WE REFER TO THEM, WE LET THEM KNOW WHEN THEY WERE MAKING A MINIMUM OF NINE HOUR COMMIT, COMMIT THAT SINGLE DAY AN HOUR FOR LUNCH. AND SO THEY KNEW IF THEY SHOWED UP THAT THEY WERE THERE FOR NINE HOURS. THEY NINE THEY, YEAH. IF THEY WANT TO CLEAR UP THEIR COMMUNITY SERVICE IN A, THAT'S HOW MANY GUYS, HOW MANY GUYS DO YOU HAVE IN THIS PROGRAM? HOW MANY AVAILABLE? UM, I HAVE AROUND 1500 OFFENDERS CURRENTLY ON PROBATION, ACTIVE PROBATION IN TARRANT COUNTY. I MEAN, EXCUSE ME, IN KAMAN COUNTY 1500 AND YEP. AND AS FAR AS THE TOTAL NUMBER OF COMMUNITY SERVICE HOURS THAT THEY OWE RIGHT NOW, I'M NOT SURE, BUT IT'S, I'D SAY PROBABLY ABOUT 85% OF THE, THAT WE'RE SUPERVISING RIGHT NOW HAVE SOME TYPE OF COMMUNITY SERVICES. THEY DO. ANYWAYS, IT'S GOOD TO HAVE THIS INFORMATION AND UH, DAVID, WE REALLY, AGAIN, WE REALLY DO APPRECIATE YOU HELPING US ON THE THINGS THAT TALKED ABOUT. UH, IT'S GOOD TO EVERYBODY KNOW ABOUT WHAT YOU'RE CAPABLE OF HELPING US DO AND I'M SURE THE FOLKS OUT PROBATION THAT THEY BROTHER, THEY JUST GONNA BE DOING SOMETHING. I KNOW. I THINK YOU CLEAN UP CEMETERIES AND WE DO THE CEMETERY OVER IN CARROLL. THEY GO OUT THERE, THEY MOVE THE CEMETERY, THEY PICK UP ANY TRASH, THAT TYPE OF STUFF. UM, THEY MOVE THE AREAS AROUND A COUPLE DIFFERENT CHURCHES IS ALSO MY OFFENDERS THAT HAVE COMPLETED AT LEAST 50% OF THEIR HOURS IN SWEAT EQUITY. AND IF THEY'RE IN COMPLIANCE WITH ALL OTHER CONDITIONS, THEY'RE CURRENT ON THEIR FEES, THEY'RE JUST DOING REALLY WELL. THEY CAN ACTUALLY PURCHASE COMMUNITY SERVICE FROM THE FOOD BANK. [04:40:01] IT IS, I CHARGE THEM $7 AND 25 CENTS FOR ONE HOUR. SOME MINIMUM WAGE FOR ONE HOUR. SO IF THEY MAKE A FINANCIAL DONATION TO THE FOOD BANK, BRING US A RECEIPT, THEN WE CAN GRANT ON COMMUNITY SERVICE THAT WELL. SO THAT'S PRETTY COOL. YEAH. I GOTTA, CAN YOU FIND SOMETHING CEMETERY ON 2 37? WE NEED CLEAN THAT THERE A TIME GOING NUMERICAL. I HAVE DS IN ALL FOUR CORNERS. ARE THEY UH, SPECIFIC TO PRECINCT? YEAH. WE'RE GONNA GO ABOUT THIS NUMERICALLY IN TROUBLE. WE TAKE, I HAVE TO ASK THIS QUESTION. WHOSE PRECINCTS IS MY BUILDING IN ? HOLE. YOUR YARD SOUNDS LIKE YOU GOT, YOU GOT 1500, YOU GOT PLENTY TO GO AROUND SAYING GIMME THE STATISTICS AGAIN. YOU GOT 1500 CASES? 1500. 1500. YEAH, I'D SAY PROBABLY ABOUT 80 TO 85% OF THEM HAVE SOME TYPE OF COMMUNITY SERVICE HOURS THEY NEED TO DO. AND, AND WHAT'S THE AVERAGE THAT THEY DO? IS THAT WHAT YOU SAID? YEAH, I'D SAY ABOUT AVERAGE IS 75. SOME OF THEM CAN'T GET ORDER UP TO AROUND THREE TO 400 HOURS FOR THE, UM, COMING THE ATTEND THAT ARE ON FOUR OR FIVE YEARS. SO TO ACCESS YOUR HELP, THEY JUST NEED TO CONTACT YOUR OFFICE. YEAH, JUST EMAIL ME, LEMME KNOW WHAT YOU NEED. I'LL CONTACT MY STAFF BEFORE WE CAN GET PEOPLE TO START SHOWING UP. IT TAKES ANYWHERE FROM TWO TO THREE TO FOUR WEEKS FOR THE OFFICERS TO SIT THERE AND FIND SOME PEOPLE TO SAY, YEAH, I'M WILLING TO WORK IN THAT AREA. OKAY. UM, BUT IF Y'ALL HAVE A BIG PROJECT THAT YOU KNOW, HEY, ON THIS PARTICULAR DATE WE'RE GOING TO DO THIS AND WE CAN USE ALL THE HELP. IF WE GET, LET ME KNOW AND WE'LL JUST SIGN PEOPLE UP FOR THAT DAY. IT'S, UM, NORMALLY WHAT I DO IS I LIKE TO COORDINATE ALL THAT, BUT THEN ONCE I GET A COORDINATED, I TURN IT OVER TO EDWARD JOHNSON, ONE OF MY SUPERVISORS AND HE'S THE ONE THAT SITS THERE AND CALLS THE LIST AND KEEPS TRACK AND MAKE SURE PEOPLE'S WHERE THEY NEED TO BE. AND SOME OF THESE CAN EVEN BE DURING THE WEEK, NOT JUST SATURDAY. SOME CAN BE DURING THE WEEK. YEAH. I WOULD IMAGINE SOME OF 'EM NOT BEING UNEMPLOYED TOO, SO THAT FREE THEM UP SOMETHING TOO. SO. OKAY. UH, THE REAL PURPOSE TO HAVE YOU HERE TODAY, , WHO CARES ABOUT THAT? GOOD. I MEAN THE, THE, UH, GREAT INFORMATION WE'VE HAD THAT DISCUSSION LIKE THIS, SO THAT'S GOOD. UH, AND UH, YOU'VE GOT SOME UH, UH, CHANGES HERE. ARE YOU, YOU'RE CUTTING BACK SOME STAFF I THINK IS THAT IT IS ONE, ONE POSITION HAS BEEN ELIMINATED AND THAT'S ON ACCOUNT 34. THERE IS A CSE COORDINATOR THAT WAS 13 BUDGET, $13,000 A YEAR. THAT WAS A PART-TIME POSITION PRIOR TO ME GETTING HERE. THAT POSITION HAD BEEN VACATED AND THEY HADN'T FILLED IT IN CLOSE TO A YEAR. AND SINCE I'VE GOT HERE AND DONE SOME REDISTRIBUTION OF DUTIES, IT'S, I COMPLETELY ELIMINATED THAT POSITION. AND ALSO THAT ONE'S GONE. UM, OTHER POSITIONS, I'VE HAD 50% OF THE STAFF TURNOVER IN ABOUT THE LAST YEAR. IT'S WITH BEN RETIRING, UM, MS. DEBORAH KELLY RETIRED. MICHELLE HARRIS RETIRED. DAVID HILL RETIRED. RICHARD GORDON OPENED UP HIS OWN PRIVATE PRACTICE FOR COUNSELING. I HAD ONE OFFICER I HAD TO SEPARATE WITH AND ANOTHER OFFICER THAT RETIRED. ALL THOSE, ALMOST ALL THOSE PEOPLE HAVE BEEN WITH THE DEPARTMENT 20 YEARS OR MORE. SO WITH THEM LEAVING OUR SALARIES OVERALL GREATLY DECREASE. AND MANY OF THOSE HAD LONGEVITY PAY. YES. THEY HAD FALL OVER THEIR HOURS, SO I'M SURE THAT DID CUT BACK. SO IT'S MY OVERALL SALARY FOR THE DEPARTMENT HAS DROPPED BY ABOUT A HUNDRED THOUSAND PER A LITTLE BIT. YEAH. 1000. YEAH. SO A LOT. AND AGAIN, THIS IS PRETTY MUCH KIND LIKE THE CHILDREN'S SHELTER. IT'S KIND OF A PASS THROUGH DEAL. I MEAN IT PAYS FOR IT ITSELF. YES. YES. I WANTED TO ASK YOU A QUESTION ABOUT, UH, LINE 44 30 ON THE UTILITIES. MM-HMM . WHAT, UH, AND KAREN MAY BE THE BEST PERSON. TELL ME WHAT THAT IS. IS THAT YOUR PHONE ONLY OR IS THAT, UH, IT IS FOR NON-NORMAL SUPERVISION. UM, UTILITIES, IT'S, IT CAN BE PHONE FOR RESIDENTIAL FACILITIES, UM, WHICH WE DON'T HAVE. UM, IT CAN, CAN BE FOR CELLULAR PHONES, WHICH WE DO HAVE. IT'S, I'VE HAD THAT BACK WHERE WE HAD FIVE CELLULAR PHONES FOR THEIR APARTMENT. WE PREVIOUSLY HAD, I'M GONNA SAY 18 PHONES. SO I REDUCED THAT [04:45:01] DOWN WHERE I'VE JUST GOT ONE FOR EACH OF OUR VEHICLE AND MY STAFF GOES OUT FOR HOME VISITS AND I HAVE ONE FOR THE SEX OFFENDER CASE CASELOAD. AND OUTSIDE OF THAT, THAT'S THE ONLY CELL PHONES I HAVE. AND THAT'S PRETTY MUCH ALL WE'RE USING IN THE UTILITIES FOR. OKAY. UH, IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT SOME COUNTIES, THE, UH, PROBATION OFFICE WILL REIMBURSE THE COUNTY FOR UTILITIES LIKE ELECTRICITY. IT IS, THAT IS SOMETHING WOULD NEED SOME CLARIFICATION ON. OKAY. BECAUSE GOVERNMENT CODE, WHAT IS IT, 76.008 SAYS THAT THE COUNTY IS RESPONSIBLE PROVIDING THE FISCAL FACILITY UTILITIES AND EQUIPMENT FOR THE PROBATION DEPARTMENT. UM, AND THAT'S WHY THE UTILITY SECTION WE'VE BEEN PAYING FOR HAS BEEN FOR EXCESS STUFF BY SELLING, WELL ONE OF THE SCHOOLS I WENT TO, THE GUY THAT WAS UH, TALKING SAID, WELL, OUR, OUR, AND SEVERAL OF 'EM SAID OUR COUNTY CHARGES SOME RENT MM-HMM . OR MAYBE UTILITIES, SOMETHING LIKE THAT. WHETHER THAT'S LEGAL OR I, I, NO, I'M NOT SUGGESTING WE DO LEGAL IF IT IS A BUILDING OUTSIDE OF BASIC SUPERVISION. YEAH. UM, OR IF IT'S A, UM, SATELLITE OFFICE, AN EXTRA OFFICE SOMEWHERE. SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES. YES. THEN IN A SITUATION LIKE THAT, THE DEPARTMENT COULD ASSIST WITH RENT, COULD ASSIST WITH THESE THINGS ALONG THOSE. BUT IF IT'S JUST BASIC OPERATIONAL NEEDS, THEN THAT'S SUPPOSED TO BE , WELL, ONE FACILITY FOR EACH COUNTY. AND THEN IF YOU DECIDE THAT YOU NEED TWO OR THREE, THEN YOU, YOU START STEPPING UP AND PAYING SOME OF IT. YEAH. IF IT WAS GOING BEYOND JUST BASIC, THAT'S ACTUALLY ONE THING I'M LOOKING AT RIGHT NOW IS I HAVE APPLIED FOR A GRANT FROM THE STATE, DON, I GET IT. WON'T KNOW UNTIL THE END OF JULY, BEGINNING OF AUGUST. IF I GET THAT GRANT FROM THE STATE THAT'S GONNA ADD AN OFFICER TO MY APARTMENT. I HAVE ONE VACANT OFFICE AND IT'S ACTUALLY A CLOSET OFFICE. UM, WASN'T EVER BE OFFICE. SO IF I GET THAT NEW POSITION IN, I'M GONNA HAVE SOMEONE IN THAT OFFICE AND THEN I'M HUNDRED PERCENT. AND HOW MANY EVIDENCE THERE NOW? AT 15? IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE DOING RIGHT NOW? I HAVE TWO SUPERVISORS, 12 OFFICERS, THREE SUPPORT STAFF AND MYSELF. THAT'S 17. YEP. OKAY. ONE LITTLE BADGE. OH, SORRY MY, BUT I MEAN THOUGHT I HAD IT BUT MAKE SURE 1818 COUNTING AND WE'RE DOING SOME STUFF OVER. Y'ALL HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS BUDGET? NO, NO. THIS, THE BUDGET IS VERY, VERY ROUGH. 'CAUSE I HAVEN'T FOUND OUT FROM THE STATE YET EXACTLY HOW MUCH WE'RE YEAH. AND WE, WE UNDERSTAND IT, BUT THE, UH, OH, WE'RE DOING SOME REMODELING AND RENOVATING INSIDE THAT BUILDING OVER THERE. UH, ONE OF THE ISSUES WE'VE HAD OVER THERE IS THAT SOME OF THE PROBATIONERS AND PAROLE PEOPLE MM-HMM . YEAH. WOULD, UH, GO OUT AND HIRE SOMEBODY TO DO THEIR, UH, URINE TEST OR PAY SOMEBODY ELSE. THEY HIRE SOMEBODY, YOU KNOW, $10 OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. AND UH, SO WE'RE ADDING SOME CAMERAS AND, AND WE'RE MAKING A SINGLE WORK WELL FOR YOU, WELL THE HALL AREA, SEE WHERE YOUR MIND GOES ANYWAY. UH, SO WE'RE MAKING A, AN ADDITIONAL RESTROOM OVER THAT WILL BE WHERE THE PROBATIONERS USE THAT AND SO THAT'LL BE GOOD. AND UH, JUST DOING SOME KIND OF GENERAL CLEANUP INSIDE THAT, THAT BUILDING. AND UH, YOU KNOW, I MENTIONED WE WANTED TO MAYBE TRY TO PUT UP A, ANOTHER SIGN ON THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING AND YOU KNOW, SINCE 34 GOES BY THERE NOW WE, WE OFTEN TRY TO MAKE IT LOOK A LITTLE BIT BETTER. IT'S KIND OF ADU AND DRAFT PLACE AND MAYBE WITH THE FLAG POLE, UH, FIND, YOU KNOW, WHERE WE PUT THAT. JUST DO SOME THINGS TO KIND OF WRITE IT UP BUT UH, INSIDE AND OUT. SO I THINK IT'S GONNA WORK A LOT BETTER. OKAY. ALRIGHT. ANYTHING ELSE? NO. YOU DID MENTION THE REMODELING, WHICH YOU DOING OUT THERE. ONE THING THAT PAUL BROUGHT UP TO ME JUST LAST WEEK WAS PEOPLE WHO HAVE KEYS. THERE ARE, I'VE KNOWN SOME PEOPLE THAT HAVE KEYS TO THAT OUTSIDE DOOR TO THE TRAINING ROOM OVER THERE AND THAT SAME KEY WORKS TO GET INTO SOME OTHER BUILDINGS, SOME OTHER OFFICES THERE. UM, LIKE THE TAX OFFICE. WELL WE NEED TO CHANGE THE LOCK ON THAT. YEAH. AND WE HAVE WHAT WE HAVE OVER HERE. WE DON'T HAVE A HEAT PADD, WELL WE'RE ABOUT TO DO ACCESS CONTROL. PART OF THE THAT WAS SOLVE THAT. YEAH, BECAUSE IT, THERE'S THIS PARTICULAR PERSON WHO'S GOT A KEY IS KNOWING ONE THAT I KNOW, KNOWING ONE THAT MR. JOHNSON KNOWS AND WE DIDN'T EVEN KNOW THAT KEY WAS RUNNING AROUND. SO JUST OVER TIME IT LOOKS LIKE SOME KEYS HAVE BEEN GIVEN TO CERTAIN PEOPLE TO DO CERTAIN THINGS AND [04:50:01] WE'VE GOT NO WAY TO BUT YOU GOT VIDEO OF KEYS. YEAH. NOBODY RECOGNIZED. MM-HMM. THE PEOPLE IN THE TAX OFFICE ACTUALLY SPOKE WITH HIM BECAUSE THE KEY FOR THAT OUTSIDE TRAINING ROOM ACTUALLY WORKS FOR THE TAX OFFICE AS WELL. AND THE TAX OFFICE PEOPLE WERE IN THERE AT THE END OF THE DAY COUNTING OUT MONEY AND HE OPENED UP THE TAX OFFICE DOOR AND THEN WALKING IN HE WAS LIKE, HEY, AM I SUPPOSED TO BE OVER HERE? AND THEY WERE LIKE, YOU HAD NO IDEA. WE'VE ALREADY BEEN OUT FOR, I THINK I, YEAH. SO IT'S JUST WITH WING IT WOULD BE THE KEY, THESE THINGS. AND I THINK WE CAN PAY FOR THESE OUTTA THE JP TECHNOLOGY FUND. SOME OF IT WE'RE DIVIDE IT IN THREE. OKAY. ALRIGHT. ALRIGHT Y'ALL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. I'M SURE YOU'LL BE GETTING CALLS. AND DOES EVERYONE HAVE MY CARD? THE CSR? MY, I THINK I'VE GOT IT. I'VE GOT IT. I'VE GOT A TOO. YOU THANK YOU DAVID. THANK. ALRIGHT, NEXT. SO WE KIND OF JUMPED AHEAD OF YOU A LITTLE BIT, SO THAT'S OKAY. YOU COME ON UP. WE'RE RIGHT. SORRY, ALMOST ON TIME, BUT UH, I APPRECIATE IT. HELLO. HOW YOU DOING? I'M GOOD, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND UH, JUST SO, UH, EVERYBODY KNOWS WE'VE HAD SOME DAMAGE AT THE LIBRARY, UH, SO ROOF DAMAGE AND THEN ALSO THE AIR CONDITIONERS THAT WERE DAMAGED OUT THERE. THE COIL WAS ON, ON THE BACK BUILDING AND UH, UH, THE INSURANCE PEOPLE, YOU STILL HAVEN'T HEARD ANYTHING YET. UM, HE EMAILED ME THIS MORNING AND SAID THAT HE, THIS IS THE FIRST TIME HE'S BEEN BACK IN THE OFFICE AND HE WILL GET ME SOMETHING BY THE END OF THE WEEK. OKAY. SO WE'VE TURNED IT INTO TAG AND THEY'VE INDICATED THAT THEY'RE GOING TO RE GIVE US REIMBURSEMENT OR WE HAVEN'T SPENT ANY MONEY ON IT. FROM THE STORM. FROM THE STORM. WE'VE HAD ACTUALLY TWO STORMS AND IT WAS BOTH THE CHILDREN'S SHELTER AND THE LIBRARY AND BECAUSE IT WAS ONE INCIDENT WAS ON ONE CLAIM, SO WE ONLY HAD TO PAY A THOUSAND. DID THEY SAY ANYTHING ABOUT THE DAMAGE TO THE THEY'RE WORKING ON THAT TOO. OKAY. WE HAD SOMEBODY THAT EVIDENTLY YEARS AGO, WE'RE NOT SURE HOW LONG AGO THAT RAN INTO THE FRONT OF THE PRECINCT. THREE SUB COURTHOUSE KNOCKS BRICK AND UH, NOBODY REMEMBERS WHEN, EVIDENTLY IT WAS NEVER TURNED IN AS A CLAIM OR ANYTHING. SO WE'RE, I THINK IS THEY'VE ACCEPTED IT. WE CAME UP WITH THE ROUNDABOUT DATE OF, UH, APRIL OR MAY, 2008. UM, SO THERE HE CAME OUT AND ADJUST AND EVALUATED THAT TOO. AND I SHOULD BE GETTING SOMETHING ON THAT AS WELL. 3-YEAR-OLD CLAIM THEY, THEY'VE ACCEPTED IT THREE, EIGHT YEAR. EIGHT 2008. MM-HMM . IN 2008. YEAH. ALWAYS TREATS US WELL WITH A, ALRIGHT, YOU WANT BUDGET CUT AND DRY? THE ONLY THING I'M ASKING FOR IS A 10% INCREASE IN OUR, THAT LINE ITEM FOR OUR BOOKS. WE HAVE A COUPLE OF LEASE PLANS THAT WE USE FOR, UM, WITH THIS COMPANY CALLED BIG NOT LEASE SOME OF OUR BOOKS, AUDIO BOOKS AND WE'RE ABLE TO GET MULTIPLE COPIES FOR, YOU KNOW, SOME OF OUR BEST SELLERS. BUT THEN AT THE END OF THE YEAR WE SEND THOSE BACK AND THAT SAVES US ON SPACE AND EVERYTHING. SO THIS YEAR THOSE PLANS ARE GOING UP TO 10%. SO THAT'S WHERE THAT, SO YOU'RE ASKING GO FROM 24 0 84 26, 2 4 8 AND THEN EVERYTHING ELSE IS SAME. WHAT ABOUT ANYTHING ELSE THAT, UH, AND I KNOW YOU'VE GOT ANOTHER PAGE HERE TOO, THE SECOND PAGE RIGHT BEHIND, THERE'S NO CHANGES ON THAT. THERE IS THE SAME. YEAH, THAT IS THE ONLY THING THAT I'M REQUESTING. OKAY. I'VE HAD A COUPLE OF GRANTS THAT I'VE WORKED ON FOR TO DO OUR COMPUTERS DO THE MEADOWS GRANT AND CI AND THE ADOBE GRANT FOR ADDITIONAL FUNDING IN OUR BOOKS. SO, AND THEN, UM, THE [04:55:01] FRIENDS OF THE LIBRARY THIS YEAR DID PURCHASE, THEY KIND OF REDID OUR CHILDREN'S AREA, PURCHASED THREE NEW COMPUTERS, SOME CHAIRS, SOME TABLES, AND THEY'RE ACTUALLY ABOUT TO PURCHASE TWO NEW LITTLE TABLETS THAT ARE EDUCATIONAL AND SOME AFTERSCHOOL LEARNING. BUT, UM, THEY'LL BE REDOING A AREA OF THE LIBRARY WHERE WE'LL BE PURCHASING LIKE SOME COUCHES AND LAMPS AND TABLES COURSE AND INVITING. SO, SO I ACTUALLY KNOW THE RESULTS OF GRANTS WITHIN MY MEETING DAYS TO SEE HOW THAT'LL COME OUT. YEAH. WHAT UH, I KNOW I WAS IN ON A CONVERSATION, AN EMAIL CONVERSATION ABOUT THE LIBRARY, I MEAN THE MEETING ROOM AND DID YOU, I THINK Y WAS GETTING Y'ALL ANOTHER LAPTOP. THAT ONE WE HAD IN THERE WAS ABOUT . I DID WRITE THAT IN THAT TI GRANT TO READ TO UH, DO GEORGE AND LET US BORROW THE PROJECTOR AND YOUR LAPTOP OFF THERE FOR THAT PART OF IT. WE ALSO GOT THE, UM, THAT GRANT THROUGH THE VALLEY ELECTRIC. SO WE WILL BE UP TO REAPPLY FOR THAT I THINK IN OCTOBER. AND JEFF, MR TOLD ME TO DEFINITELY DO THAT. GOOD CHANCE WE THAT MONEY TO DO THAT. OKAY. SO YEAH. HOW MUCH DID YOU GET LAST YEAR? IT WAS 3,500. 3,500. WHAT ABOUT YOUR OTHER, I'M SORRY, GO AHEAD. SO I WAS JUST GONNA SAY FOR THE NEW COMMISSIONER, YOU PROBABLY NEED TO EXPLAIN TO 'EM THAT HER FUNDING FOR THIS FUND 26 IS ACTUALLY A TRANSFER FROM THE GENERAL FUND PLUS SOME MONEY THAT YOU GET FROM UH, CITY OF CO. THE CITY OF COCHRAN DOES BECAUSE YOU GET $15,000 OF THE YEAR. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THEY KNOW THAT. RIGHT. AND WE DO BUDGET IT ANNUALLY AND UH, DID WE HAVE TO CUT IT I THINK TWO OR THREE TIMES OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS FROM, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE WERE HAVING TO DO WHAT WE HAD TO DO? EXACTLY. WHAT ABOUT THE, THE REST OF YOUR IT EQUIPMENT, THE COMPUTERS, THAT, HOW EVEN YOU HAVE RIGHT NOW WE HAVE SIX PUBLIC, UM, WITH INTERNET ACCESS TWO THAT WE ONLY USED FOR SEARCHING OUR CATALOG AND TWO OVER THERE IN GENEALOGY FOR JUST SPECIFICALLY FOR THOSE AREAS. ARE THEY WORKING? I MEAN ALL OF THEM ARE WORKING RIGHT NOW, BUT IT'S TIME FOR US TO UPGRADE TO WHAT ABOUT UTILIZATION? RIGHT? OH MY GOODNESS, YES. WE PROBABLY DO. WE HAVE 600 USERS THAT COME THROUGH AND USE ON COMPUTERS EVERY MONTH. SIX. SO YEAH, WE DO ABOUT, OH, AT THE END OF THE MONTH, AT THE EVERY DAY WE PROBABLY DO 80 TO A HUNDRED PEOPLE COME THROUGH JUST TO USE PEOPLE CHECKING OUR EMAILS OF COURSE DOING EVERYTHING. SO THEY DO STAY BUSY. OH YEAH. AND WE LIMIT IT TO AN HOUR A DAY. UM, WE DO EXTEND THE TIME BUT NOBODY'S WAITING ON THEM SO WE JUST, WE JUST KEEP STAY PRETTY WELL CONTINUALLY. YEAH. YEAH. I'M SURE THAT'S QUESTION ALONG DUTY. DID WE LOSE SOMEONE? IS THERE NOT MUCH MONEY DOWN THERE? THOUSAND? WE DID, WE HAD ONE RETIRED THE END OF MAY, UM, THAT HAD BEEN HERE, SO YES. SO THAT PROBABLY WILL BE OVER. BUT I, WE REDUCED, I THINK OUR SALARY FOR THE REDUCED THAT LIBRARY SINCE LINE ITEM DIDN'T WORK OR SALARY WAS COMING OUT, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN TO IT LOOKS LIKE THAT YOUNG ME, THE LONGEVITY BELONGS TO YASMA. THAT'S THE WAY ALL THE OTHER DEPARTMENTS ARE SCHEDULED. THE DEPARTMENT HEADS SALARY SUFFERING, SUPPLEMENTS OF LONGEVITY IS ADDED IN A SEPARATE LINE. THE TWO FULL-TIME EMPLOYEES, IF THEY HAD MERIT OR LONGEVITY, IT'S ADDED TO THEIR BASE IN THAT ONE BIG LINE ITEM. OKAY. WHERE WHERE IS THERE MILE AND TRAINING AND ALL THAT COME FROM? BECAUSE ONE OF THEM NO MONEY ON, THEY'RE ALREADY IN THE HOME. I MEAN, WELL WE SHOULDN'T BE IN A HOLD ON THAT ONE. YOU SHOULD ACTUALLY THAT SHOULD BE A PLUS BECAUSE UM, DOES IT SHOW A PLUS ON THERE? DOES THE TALKER? IT DOESN'T SHOW ANYTHING THAT SAYS ACTUAL. OKAY. WE DO, WE JUST REQUESTED THAT MONEY FOR THIS BUDGET TO COVER. WE HAVE A TRAINING THAT'S GONNA GO ON JULY, SO THAT'S WHY THAT MONEY HAS NOT BEEN SPENT. BUT IN ONE OF THOSE LINE ITEMS IT SHOULD SHOW, UM, ABOVE IT SHOULD BE AUSH. IS IT SHOWING A HOLE? BECAUSE [05:00:01] THE TALKER GAVE US, THIS WAS AS OF APRIL WHEN YOU REQUESTED THAT TRANSFER LAST MONTH. SO THAT'S WHAT, THAT'S PROBABLY PART OF THE PROBLEM. RIGHT. BECAUSE THE TUCKER TUCKER, THE TUCKER FOUNDATION GAVE US MONEY TO GO LIBRARY ASSOCIATION APRIL AND I THOUGHT PUT THAT IN THE TRAINING AND IT'S LIKE A LITTLE OVER 2000 OR SO. THAT'S GOOD. ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE REQUEST? SHE, UH, ON NOT UPGRADE BUT THE EXTRA EXPENSE ON YEAH, RUN A VERY GOOD SHOP OUT THERE. GET THE DAMAGE CLEANED UP AND ANYTHING NEGATIVE. I MEAN EVERYTHING I HEAR ABOUT THE LIBRARY IS GOOD AND YOU HAVE A LOT OF PLACE. YES, YOU DO. AND I GUESS THAT COMMUNITY ROOM OR MEETING ROOM IT'S USED ALMOST BASICALLY. YEAH, WE KIND OF SIT BACK A LITTLE BIT IN THE SUMMER JUST BECAUSE OF OUR SUMMER PROGRAM. WE DO A LITTLE MORE WITH THE KIDS IN THE SUMMER SO WE DON'T BOOK THE ROOM AS MUCH. BUT YEAH. ONE OF THE THINGS BACK ON THE DAMAGE THAT WAS DONE BY THE, UM, STORM THAT WE HAD OUT THERE, UH, IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THE AIR CONDITIONING UNITS THAT ON BACK OF THE BUILDING THERE ARE LIKE OLD AS THEY'RE OLD OLD YEAH. ON THE BUILDING BUILT. AND WHAT THE INSURANCE COMPANY TOLD PAUL IS, IS THAT THEY WOULD REPLACE THE COIL WHERE THE COILS HAVE BEEN, YOU KNOW, BENT WHERE THEY HAD STUCK I GUESS FLYING INTO THEM BECAUSE, AND I'M NOT SURE THAT'S WHY MONEY, YOU KNOW, THAT MAY BE SOMETHING WE MAY WANNA GO AHEAD AND JUST REPLACE. SO IT'S DEPENDING ON HOW IT LOOKS AT THAT POINT IN TIME. MAKE A BUS. WELL WE CAN LOOK AT THAT. SEE, BUT IF THERE, THAT BUILDING'S 20 YEARS OLD, 91 89 ACTUALLY MOVED INTO IT IN 91. MONEY ON THE OTHER HAND, YOU WON'T BUY A UNIT TODAY. THAT'LL OUT NOW. YEAH, WE HAD SOME DAMAGE TO ONE OF THE CAMERAS AND UM, WE'RE WORKING WITH, IS IT TAR? THEY ACTUALLY, THEY DO MONITOR OUR FIRE ALARM SYSTEM WHEN WE PUT THE NEW BOX IN A COUPLE YEARS LAST YEAR. SO I THINK THAT WAS INCLUDED IN THERE. AND THEY'RE WORKING WITH UH, PAUL AND GEORGE TO THINK ABOUT UPGRADING THAT SYSTEM. OKAY. IS THAT, IS THAT LIBRARY ON OUR DEAL THAT WE OKAY THE OTHER DAY FOR INSURANCE? NO, FOR THEM TO DO THE FIRE INSPECTION? THEY DO. THEY'VE BEEN AROUND, THEY'VE ALREADY INSPECTED IT. ONLY THING HE NEEDS TO DO IS THE, WE HAVE A, THE SPRINKLER SYSTEM AND HE DID, UM, TELL ME THAT'S A, THAT THEY HAVE SOMEONE ON STAFF THAT TAKES SOMEONE ELSE THAT'S CERTIFIED TO, TO DO THE SPRINKLER SYSTEM. IT SEEMS LIKE WE CAME AROUND AND TAKE ALL OF OUR FIRE EXTINGUISHERS AND THE PANEL. THAT HASN'T BEEN VERY LONG. MAYBE LESS THAN A MONTH AGO. THE CITY ALSO COMES UP INSPECTS, BUT THIS WAS PART OF THE, OKAY. ANYTHING ELSE? THAT'S IT. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND RIGHT NOW IT SAYS A BREAK, BUT BEFORE WE DO THAT I DOUBLE STEP BREAK. YEAH. I GUESS BACK AND PICK UP. YEAH. HAVE A SERGEANT COME UP AND YOU'LL COME ON UP HERE AND SURE, SURE. AND I APPRECIATE Y'ALL FITTING ME IN AT END OF THE DOCK THIS AFTERNOON. I KNOW, UH, I WAS PROBABLY SPOKE HERE A LITTLE BIT EARLIER TODAY, BUT I GOT TIED UP AT UH, GARLAND HEADQUARTERS. OKAY, WELL WE, WE UNDERSTAND HOW THAT WORKS. WE'RE NOT GONNA GIVE YOU A HARD TIME. THAT'S OKAY. I SHOULD BE ABLE TO HANDLE A HARD TIME. WE, UH, YOU DON'T STOP US SPEEDING. I DON'T THINK YOU'LL GUARANTEE THAT. UH, WE WERE GOING THROUGH YOUR BUDGET AND JUST THERE WAS I THINK SOME INCREASES. WELL THERE WERE NO INCREASES. WE WERE MOVING SOME OF THE BUDGET FROM A SPECIFIC CATEGORY TO ANOTHER CATEGORY. OKAY. AND, UH, MAYBE JUST HOW WE WERE LOOKING IN THE, THE, THE TOTAL, THE TOTAL BUDGET'S THE SAME. OKAY. THE TOTAL BUDGET IS THE SAME. IT'S NOT INCREASING OR DECREASING. UM, WE WERE MOVING SOME OF THE BUDGET OUT OF THE, THE ACCOUNT FOR COMMUNICATIONS AND THERE'S BEEN A SUBSTANTIAL [05:05:01] DECREASE IN THE FUNDS REQUIRED IN COMMUNICATIONS BECAUSE UH, WHEN I GOT TO CARROLL ABOUT A TWO YEARS AGO, MOST OF THE TROOPERS STILL HAD COUNTY CELL PHONES. UH, NOW WE ONLY HAVE ONE TROOPER THAT'S GOT A COUNTY CELL PHONE. AND ANYWAY, THAT CELL PHONE BILL WAS EATEN UP THAT COMMUNICATIONS BUDGET PRETTY, CAN YOU LOOK BACK AT THE PREVIOUS YEARS AND HOW MUCH WAS, AND IT'S NOT ALL CELL PHONE IN THAT COMMUNICATION, BUT 75% IT'S GONNA BE CELL PHONES. SO ANYWAY, LONG STORY SHORT, WE GOT RID OF ALL THE CELL PHONES EXCEPT FOR THE HOW DO YOU COMMUNICATE IN RADIO? I MEAN, WELL, EVERYBODY'S GOT THEIR OWN PERSONAL PHONE. OH. THEIR OWN PERSONAL PHONE. SO, SO THEY, EVERYBODY USES THEIR OWN PHONE. UM, AND I REMEMBER ROBIN, ROBIN AND DAVID AND ALL, THEY ALL HAVE CELL PHONES AND SAID THAT WAS THE ONLY WAY THAT HE COULD COMMUNICATE ANYMORE. THE RADIO WOULDN'T WORK HALF THE TIME OUT THERE. HE'D HAVE TO USE A CELL PHONE. JUST, THERE'S NOBODY OUT THERE THAT DOESN'T HAVE A PHONE WITH THEM THAT THEY CAN USE. SO EVERYBODY'S GOT A PHONE. MOST EVERYBODY'S GOT THEIR PERSONAL PHONE THAT THEY CARRY. A LOT OF THESE GUYS WILL CARRY TWO THEIR PERSONAL LAND WORK AND UH, YOU KNOW, I'LL CONVINCE THEM THEY DON'T NEED TO HAVE A COUNTY PHONE IF THEY DON'T CARE THEIR PERSONAL PHONE YEAH. PAPER ANYWAY. SO THERE'S ONE GUY THAT JUST, HE JUST DOES NOT WANT COUNTY PHONE THEN THAT'S FINE. SO WE'VE ONLY GOT ONE AND I THINK HIS IS MAYBE $30 A MONTH. SO IT'S REALLY GONNA CUT DOWN OUR, OUR BUDGET. I'D LIKE TO GET THAT NUMBER, NUMBER OF THE ONE YOU'RE KEEPING SO I CAN MAKE SURE WE'RE NOT GETTING CHARGED FROM AT T. YOU KNOW WHAT, WHEN UH, ZELLE HICKMAN THERE IN OUR OFFICE, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT IT AND UH, I BELIEVE SHE HAD SENT OR DONE SOME INQUIRING AS TO, I THINK THERE WERE FOUR TOTAL NUMBERS WE WERE STILL BEING BILLED FOR, BUT WE ONLY HAD ONE PHONE. OKAY. SO SHE'S EFFECTIVELY CANCELED THE OTHER THREE FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND. AND THERE'S STILL JUST THAT ONE THAT'S LEFT ON THAT. IT PROBABLY HAS TO BE CANCELED THROUGH MY OFFICE PROBABLY WITH AT T WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVEN'T GOT A BILL GETTING IT. YES SIR. I'M, I'M PRETTY SURE THAT SHE HAS DONE IT, BUT I'LL GET IT WITH YOU IN MAY. OKAY. AND WE'LL DOUBLE CHECK IT. THAT'D BE GREAT. BUT THAT'S WHERE THE MAIN CHANGE IS. SO, SO THE BUDGET THAT WAS ALLOCATED FOR COMMUNICATIONS, WE STILL HAVE SOME MONEY IN THERE FOR OTHER ITEMS THAT WE MIGHT NEED TO USE FOR THAT PARTICULAR LINE ITEM. UM, THE ORIGINAL TOTAL THAT WAS REQUESTED, UH, OF 6,000 IN THAT COMMUNICATIONS, WE MOVED A LITTLE BIT OVER INTO THE OFFICE EQUIPMENT AND MOVED A LITTLE UP OVER TO COMPUTER. SO THE TOTAL BUDGET'S THE SAME. WE JUST REARRANGE THEM IN THE LIVES. I THINK THAT PRETTY WELL WE UNDERSTAND NOW. YES SIR. COMPUTER UPGRADE TO 3000 IN THE OFFICE EQUIPMENT TOOK 1000. CORRECT? CORRECT. ALRIGHT. YEAH. YEAH. AND UH, THAT MAKES SENSE. YOU KNOW, I HAVEN'T BEEN IN POLITICS A WHOLE LONG TIME, BUT I KNOW THAT WHENEVER SOMEBODY SAYS THAT YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO USE THAT, YOU MIGHT WANT TO KEEP IT. YOU NEVER KNOW WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN. WELL WE DON'T. SO ESPECIALLY THIS DAMN TIME IT SEEMS LIKE. YES SIR. YES SIR. BUT, AND HOPEFULLY TOO, WE CAN WORK ON CUTTING DOWN SOME OF THESE OTHER ITEMS AND IF WE DON'T END UP USING THAT WHOLE COMMUNICATION. SO WE'LL COME BACK NEXT YEAR AND REVISIT AND GET THE, THE OVERALL BUDGET REDUCED. RIGHT. NO, UH, WORD YET. I KNOW THE OTHER DAY YOU HAVE 16, UM, TROOPERS. THERE'S UM, WELL WE JUST, UH, SOME OF Y'ALL MAY KNOW, UH, BRAD BREWER MM-HMM . WHO WAS A DEPUTY FOR A LONG TIME AND HE IS A TROOPER THERE. HE JUST PROMOTED TO CID SO HE'S A SPECIAL AGENT. SO YOU WON'T SEE BRAD ANYMORE. WELL, I KNOW ROD LEFT, YOU KNOW, HE WENT OF COURSE I SEE HIM ALL TIME. HE WENT, WE'RE RUNNING, UM, I'VE GOT FIVE ON MY SIDE AND SERGEANT O'LEARY I THINK HAS EIGHT ON HER SIDE. SO WE'RE RUNNING ABOUT 13 AND I, AT OUR LAST MEETING THAT WE DISCUSSED THE DEPLOYMENT FOR THESE TROOPERS, I RIGHT. I I MISSPOKE ON THAT. OKAY. AND IT'S, AND IT'S NOT ONE A MONTH, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S PRETTY MUCH THREE, TWO TO THREE EVERY FIVE DAYS. SO THEY'RE, THEY'RE GOING TO A PRETTY FREQUENT, PRETTY FREQUENT. AND I HEARD OR READ IN THE PAPER EARL RADIO THIS MORNING THAT THE NEWS STATE BUDGET, LIKE 250 MORE ADDITIONAL TROOPERS AND THE WAY IT WAS INDICATED THAT THOSE ARE ALL GONNA BE ASSIGNED TO THE, TO THE ORDER. IS THAT, UH, THAT'S THE PLAN. OKAY. WE DO HAVE A RECRUIT SCHOOL GOING ON NOW THAT'S GONNA GRADUATE IN ABOUT THREE WEEKS. WE'RE GONNA HAVE ANOTHER ONE STARTED IMMEDIATELY AFTER THAT. AND UH, IT'S A FULL SIX MONTH, BUT IN BETWEEN UH, JULY AND DECEMBER THEY'RE GONNA THROW A SHORT CURRENT OR PRIOR LAW ENFORCEMENT EIGHT WEEK ACADEMY IN THERE. AND ALL OF THOSE PERSONNEL THAT ARE GOING TO THAT ACADEMY, I THINK THEY'VE GOT A 50 THAT HAVE COMMITTED TO GO, THEY'RE ALL GOING DOWN TO, TO THE BORDER REGION, WHICH WILL HELP OUR, WHICH WILL HELP RELIEVE SOME OF MY PRESSURE ON SENDING R JACK GUYS DOWN THERE ALL THE TIME. ABSOLUTELY. THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HOPING FOR. AND WE, UH, JUST TALKING [05:10:01] THIS MORNING TOO, AND I WANT MAKE SURE THAT I DIDN'T MISS SPEAK, BUT, UH, ABOUT THE SECRETARIES THAT WE FURNISH AND UH, WE, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT SOME NEW PEOPLE ON THE COURT. SO THE, THEY ASSIST THE TROOPERS IN A VARIETY OF THINGS. THEY'RE NOT IN THE DRIVER'S LICENSE OFFICE? THAT IS CORRECT. THEY ONLY DO WORK FOR HIGHWAY PATROL. OKAY. THEY ONLY, AND THERE'S, THERE'S TWO SECRETARIES BECAUSE WE HAVE TWO SERGEANT AREAS THERE AND, UM, THEY DO ALL THE ADMINISTRATIVE DUTIES. THEY RUN THE FRONT, THEIR FRONT OFFICE AND YOU KNOW, WE'RE PRETTY FAMILIAR WITH WHAT ASSISTANTS DO IN OFFICES. SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT OUR DO THEY, THEY PREPARE ALL THE PAPERWORK, GET SENT TO DIFFERENT COURTS AND THEY STAY BUSY. THEY STAY BUSY. THEY DO A LOT OF THE WORK. WE'RE HAPPY TO HAVE 'EM. I, ONE OF 'EM HAVE BEEN THERE A LONG TIME I THINK KAREN . YEAH. YES. KAREN'S BEEN THERE FOR A LONG TIME. YEAH. AND THEN ONE INS, ELLE'S BEEN THERE FOR A LITTLE WHILE TOO. HAS SHE? AND SHE DOES A GREAT JOB. SHE'S NOT, WE NEVER SEE 'EM. RIGHT. LIKE FROM, YOU KNOW, BUT, BUT THAT'S PRETTY TYPICAL STANDARD ACROSS THE STATE. BUT THE COUNTY NEW FURNISH. YES SIR. YEAH, THAT'S, THAT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING. YES SIR. THE ONLY ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANT YOU'LL FIND THAT ARE PAID BY THE STATE ONES THAT USUALLY WORK AT THE REGIONAL HEADQUARTERS. MM-HMM . YES. ONE IN GAR, ALL THAT. THE ONES IN GARLAND ARE STATE EMPLOYEE. YES. I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY THEY HAVE ON THAT IN THAT DEAL OFFICE. I TRIED TO STAY AWAY FROM THAT. YOU STAY AWAY FROM THAT. YES. I DON'T WANT ANYTHING TO DO WITH, THEY TOLD ME THE OTHER DAY ON, UH, ON, UH, IN GARLAND THEY QUIT EVEN DOING, THEY, THEY ARE STILL DOING SOME DRIVER TESTS IN GARLAND, BUT I THINK MOST OF IT'S COMMERCIAL DRIVER LICENSE. THEY'VE GOT THIS KID GOING OVER AND GETTING A DRIVER LICENSE. WHY DON'T WE JUST DO COMMERCIAL OUT HERE OR NO, WE DO EVERYTHING. DO EVERYTHING. WE'LL DO EVERYTHING AT THE . YES, SIR. ARE THE LADIES THAT DO THAT OR THEY, UH, STATE EMPLOYEES OR THEY CONTRACT, THEY'RE STATE EMPLOYEES. THEY'RE UH, THEY'RE REFERRED TO DEAL EXAMINERS. SO LONG TELL OF THE DAYS WHEN TROOPER GETS IN THE CAR, STILL KIND OF DO THAT. THERE ARE STILL SOME DEAL TROOPERS AROUND, BUT THERE'S NONE. THEY, THEY PRESERVE THOSE FOR THE MEGA CENTERS AND THEY'RE KIND OF THERE FOR FRAUD INVESTIGATIONS. BRING FRAUDULENT DOCUMENTS. IF WE ENCOUNTER THAT HAROLD, WE SEND THOSE PEOPLE TO GUARD AND WE GO GET INVESTIGATED BY A TROOPER THERE AND THEY'RE THERE FOR SECURITY OFFICER WHILE YOU'RE HERE. WE HAD A DISCUSSION EARLIER ABOUT THE, UH, AIR QUALITY, THE COUNTERFEIT, UH, INSPECTION STICKERS AND SO FORTH. AND WE, AND WE, WE'VE GOT A GRANT THROUGH THE STATE THAT WE'VE USED TO HELP ESTABLISH THAT IT'S NOT, WE'VE NOT BEEN REAL ACTIVE WITH IT OVER THE LAST SEVERAL MONTHS, BUT DO YOU GUYS STILL DO SOME OF THAT AS WELL? OR THE ONLY ENFORCEMENT THAT WE'RE INVOLVED WITH IT, UH, WOULD THE, THE BRANCH OF OF DPS, UH, WHICH IS THE REGULATORY SERVICES. REGULATORY SERVICES OVER MOTOR VEHICLE INSPECTION. RIGHT. SO OUR FUNCTION IN THE TAROT HIGHWAY PATROL OFFICE IS STRICTLY HIGHWAY PATROL, DAILY PATROL OPERATIONS ENFORCE ENFORCEMENT CRASH INVESTIGATION. THIS ISN'T THAT AGENCY. SO, UH, WE MIGHT, THE TROOPERS MAY GET INVOLVED IN SOME OF THAT TO A DEGREE. IF THEY STOP A VEHICLE AND NOW THEY RUN IT THROUGH THE AIRCHECK TEXAS DATABASE AND IT SHOWS THAT IT'S SUPPOSED TO HAVE AN INSPECTION, UH, REPORT, BUT AN THAT DOESN'T HAVE A REPORT WITH IT, THEN THEY'LL BE ISSUED TO CITATION. IF THEY DO PRODUCE A REPORT THAT IT'S NOT SHOWING THE DATABASE, THEY SHOULD HAVE ONE, THEN WE'LL REFER THAT TO REGULATORY AND THEN THEY'LL, THEY'LL GET THAT INFORMATION THAT THEY HAVE. JUST LIKE BEFORE THEY WENT TO THE REPORTS AND PEOPLE HAD INSPECTION CERTIFICATES. IF WE STOP SOMEBODY THAT HAD A FRAUDULENT STICKER ON THE CAR, WE'LL WE PEEL IT OFF THERE AND SAID IT'S LIKE AND THEY CHASE DOWN THE SHOP. THAT SORT OF THING. AND THAT'S WHAT THAT, THAT'S ANOTHER QUESTION THAT WE ALL HAD EARLIER. WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE, THE INSPECTION REPORT THEY GIVE YOU. NOBODY KEEP THAT. YOU'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO KEEP THAT. YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO KEEP WHY? YOU SUPPOSED TO KEEP SUPPOSED TO KEEP, WHY DON'T THEY PUT IT AND PICK THE RED LETTERS OR SOMETHING? THEY KEEP IT IN YOUR CAR. YOU SHOULD KEEP IT IN YOUR CAR. YES. WELL IT BECAUSE OF, I MEAN NOBODY TELLS ANYBODY THAT. RIGHT. SO I MEAN, HOW MANY PEOPLE NEED, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? NO, DON'T, THAT'S OKAY. I'M JUST TRYING TO THINK OF A GOOD WAY TO SAY IT. ANYTIME THAT YOU'VE GOT PEOPLE INVOLVED, THERE'S GONNA BE MISTAKES THAT ARE MADE. MM-HMM . SO THE, IDEALLY YOU GO TO YOUR, YOUR GET YOUR VEHICLE INSPECTED, YOU GET YOUR INSPECTION REPORT, YOU COME OVER TO THE TAX OFFICE, YOU SHOW 'EM THE REPORT TO GIVE YOU REGISTRATION CERTIFICATE AND YOU'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO GET THAT REGISTRATION CERTIFICATE UNLESS YOU'VE GOT A VALID REPORT. RIGHT. UM, YEAH. BUT ONCE YOU GO GET YOUR INSPECTION, I MEAN, YOU'RE RIGHT. I MEAN YOUR TAG, ONCE YOU GET YOUR TAG, YOU THINK YOU'D BE GOOD. SO BECAUSE THAT VALIDATES THAT YOU, IT'S GONNA VALIDATE THAT YOU HAD. RIGHT. BUT IF FOR SOME REASON, UH, YOU GET STOPPED ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD WHEN SOMEBODY RUNS THAT REGISTRATION, REGISTRATION COMES BACK CURRENT. BUT THEY MIGHT SEE A PROBLEM WITH THE VEHICLE. THINK I'M SURPRISED THERE'S VEHICLE PASSING INSPECTION. LET ME SEE IF I CAN DO SOME MORE RESEARCH. AND THEY MIGHT RUN IT THROUGH [05:15:01] THAT AIR TEXAS WEBSITE AND IT MIGHT NOT SHOW UP THAT IT'S BEEN INSPECTED. THE NEXT QUESTION IS GONNA BE, WELL DO YOU HAVE YOUR INSPECTION OF THE REPORT? WELL, NO I DON'T. WELL THE MAIN QUESTION SHOULD BE, HOW DID YOU GET A LICENSE PLATE WITHOUT IT? SURE. BECAUSE THEY HAD TO HAVE THAT TO GET THE LICENSE PLATE. SO, WHICH BRINGS ANOTHER QUESTION. THEY MAY HAVE HAD A FRAUDULENT REPORT THAT THEY SHOWED HERE AT THE TAX OFFICE. MM-HMM . AND SAYING THAT THROUGH THE YEAH. DOESN'T THE TAX OFFICE RUN THAT BEFORE YOU NUMBER PLATE? AS FAR AS I KNOW THEY'RE, THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE ABLE TO CHECK IT, BUT IN SOME INSTANCES THEY MAY NOT BE ABLE TO BECAUSE LIKE ME, I ALWAYS JUST BUY MY, YOU KNOW, I KNOW I'M, I'M IN THE TAX OFFICE RIGHT THERE, MY OFFICE RIGHT THERE, BUT STILL I DO MINE ONLINE. YES SIR. AND THEY SEND ME IN MY TAG. SO NOW CAN JUST FILL IN THE NUMBER OVER REPORT. YES. YOU'RE WASTING DOLLARS THAT BY THE WAY. THAT'S OKAY. YOU DON'T, HEY IT, I MEAN I WAS JUST WONDERING BECAUSE YOU KNOW, I'M KEEP MY WIFE GOING. IT PROBABLY IN HURT. SO THE LAST FIVE IS PROBABLY IN THERE BUT NOT MINE. SO NOW YOU GET A LICENSE PLATE, YOU GOTTA HAVE AN INSPECTION FIRST AND YOUR INSURANCE, THEN YOU GET A PLATE AND THEN THAT'S NOT GOOD ENOUGH WHEN YOU GET STOPPED OUT ON THE ROAD, IT'S STILL HAVE TO HAVE ALL THIS STUFF'S GONNA BE GOOD ENOUGH. IT'S GONNA BE GOOD ENOUGH. BUT I WOULD JUST SAY I, ILL TRY TO KEEP THE DOCUMENTATION WITH YOU JUST AND THERE'S A QUESTION. YOU GOT REPORT WITH YOU. I DO HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION. YES SIR. , YOU GLAD YOU CAME OVER NOW I'M HAPPY TO BE HERE. YES SIR. BECAUSE I THINK WE HAD THIS DISCUSSION THE OTHER DAY. DO REMEMBER ABOUT WHAT SIZE IS IT THAT WE NEED TO HAVE AN INSPECTION FOR, RIGHT? THAT'S RIGHT. YEAH. OVER 4,500 POUNDS. AND THAT'S WEIGHT. IT'S THE GROSS WEIGHT. GROSS WEIGHT RATING. 4,500 POUNDS. 4,500 POUNDS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH BRAKES. AND SOMEBODY TOLD ME SOMETHING THE OTHER DAY, WELL, TRAILER OVER 4,000 POUNDS GONNA HAVE BRAKES ON IT. YEAH, BUT I MEANT SO, UH, NO. SO IT'S REALLY 4,500 BREAKS UNLESS IT'S GOT FARM TAGS ON IT, FARM TAG. AND THEN YOU DON'T HAVE TO HAVE INSPECTION ON THE FARM TAG UNTIL IT GETS OVER 48. 48,000. SO USED TO, YOU DIDN'T HAVE TO WEIGHT ON FARM TAGS. YOU THEN YOU COULD JUST RIGHT. PUT ANYTHING ON THERE. BUT THE SEED, YOU GOTTA HAVE A FARM TO GET FARM TAG. YOU GOTTA, YOU CAN'T, YEAH, YOU CAN'T, DON'T GIMME THE STORY THAT YOU GOT A PONY IN THE BACKYARD. YOU GETTING THE BAG OF FEED FROM TRACTOR SUPPLY. THAT'S NOT OKAY. SOUNDS GOOD TO ME. ABOUT, HOW ABOUT THAT FOREST I HAVE OUT BACK THAT TREE NOT GONNA WORK. IS IT STILL, IS IT STILL A TWO AXLE? TWO AXLE? NO, IT, IT IS BASED ON THE WEIGHT RATING ON THE TRAILER. REGARDLESS THE NUMBER, YOU HAVE TWO ACTUAL TRAILER THAT'S UH, REGISTERED FOR 44. CORRECT. THAT THAT'D BE FINE. WELL IT WOULDN'T HAVE TO HAVE AN INSPECTION OF ANYTHING OVER 4,000. I'M ALMOST PRETTY SURE IT'S 4,000 OR GREATER. YOU GOTTA HAVE WHAT ABOUT, YOU MAY NOT KNOW ABOUT TITLES. YOU KNOW, YOU BUY A LITTLE SINGLE TRAILER TITLE AND AUCTION SOMETHING. IS THERE A WEIGHT OR SIDE TRAILER THAT A TITLE REQUIRED? ONLY FARM TRAILERS WITH A GROSS VEHICLE WEIGHT RATING. LESS THAN, I WANT SAY LESS THAN THAN 4,500 POUNDS. ALSO DOES NOT HAVE TO HAVE TAG TAG. IT DOESN'T HAVE TO HAVE OH REALLY HAVE, HAVE ON IT A LITTLE TRAILER. THEN YOU'RE IN GOOD SHAPE. FOR EXAMPLE, I'VE GOT ONE OF THOSE CARGO TRAILERS AND CARGO IS JUST A LITTLE SINGLE AX LITTLE'S GOT THE WIRE MESH GATE DROP DOWN. YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I USE. SO I'VE GOT ONE OF THOSE, YOU KNOW, I'VE GOT A FARM THERE IN JOHNSON COUNTY WHERE WE LIVE IN ANOTHER ONE DOWN IN BURLESON COUNTY. WELL SOMETIMES I'LL TAKE EQUIPMENT DOWN THERE TO WORK ON THAT FARM. BUT I'LL JUST TAKE THAT LITTLE TRAILER DOESN'T HAVE A PLATE ON IT. WELL IT'S BECAUSE IT'S FARM USE, IT'S GOT GOT FARM TAGS ON THE TRUCK THAT'S PULLING IT. SO HOW DO THEY KNOW IT'S FARM USE? WELL TELL THEM I DON'T HAVE TO DO THAT NOW. I'M, I'M IF THEY ALL KNOW THAT'S WHY. BUT IF IT IS GONNA BE OVER THAT THEN I THINK IT'S AT 4,500 POUNDS ALSO. FOUR 4,000. FOUR 500 AND IT'S NOT FARMED THEN JUST GOTTA HAVE NO, I USE THAT SAME, SAME LICENSE WITH THE ROLL DOWN FOR THE PAYROLL BECAUSE I JUST, IT'S EASY. WHAT'S PULLING IT? HMM? WHAT ARE YOU PULLING IT? TRAILER ROOF. I'M PULLING MY PICKUP. WHAT KIND OF TAG IS YOU GOING PICK? WELL, REGULAR TAG. A HARD TIME JUSTIFYING THAT. IT'S, THAT DOESN'T HAVE TO HAVE A TAG ON. [05:20:01] IF YOU GOT A, IF YOU GOT A ONE TON THAT'S READY COMMERCIAL, THAT LITTLE TRAILER WOULD HAVE TO HAVE A TAG. IF YOU HAD A ROLL HAIL ON IT WOULD TAG, IS IT HIS HAY OR IS HE HAULING HAY FOR SOMEBODY ELSE, THEN IT WOULD BE COMMERCIAL. YEAH. NO I HAVE A, I HAVE A TAG. I DON'T EVEN BUY, I JUST BUY REGULAR TAG FOR RIGHT. YOU DIDN'T KNOW YOU DON'T HAVE A TEST. WELL YOU KNOW, ONLY, ONLY A COUPLE OF Y'ALL COME TO MY OFFICE EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE AND I DON'T GET UP HERE TO SEE Y ALL VERY OFTEN. SO YOU KNOW, Y'ALL ALWAYS CALL ME ALL THE TIME COME BY OFFICE IF EVERY TIME I GO IN THE WINDOWS SO DARK, IT'S SO DARK TO SEE IN, HAVE TO OPEN THE DOORS. WELL YOU KNOW THAT THAT'S BECAUSE THAT SUN COMES IN ON THE LADIES IN THERE AND THEY DON'T LIKE ALL THAT SUN. SUN. SO YOU KNOW, USED TO DAVID WAS AROUND THERE, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING LIKE THAT. I DON'T KNOW. TALK ROB DAVID ALL THE TIME. THEY ALSO SAID THEY, THEY PUT THAT DARK TINT ON THERE. PEOPLE DON'T LIKE COMING THROUGH THE DOOR OPEN. LOOK IN THERE AND SEE IF IN THERE. ALRIGHT, WELL THANK YOU. DIDN'T PUT YOU UNDER THE, Y'ALL NEED TO COME WITH SOME TOUGH QUESTIONS. I MIGHT HAVE TO GO RESEARCH LIKE IT CLEARED UP THE TAG. I WAS RIGHT ON IT. I TOLD ALL IT WAS 4,500. LIKE I SAID, CALL ME, CALL ME TIMES THE OFFICE CALL. SEND ME AN EMAIL OR ANY QUESTIONS Y'ALL GOT ON. IT'S JUST A PAIN IN THE NECK. I WORK FOR Y'ALL. ANYTHING Y'ALL NEED, LINDA? OKAY. APPRECIATE IT. THANK, THANK Y'ALL. TAKE BREAK. WE ONLY HAVE ONE. I KNOW SHE HAD, SHE HAD SHOWED ME THE ONES THAT SHE HAD MARKED OFF SHE CALL. ARE YOU HERE TO SEE US OR YOU JUST HERE TOVE AND LEARN ABOUT I'M HERE TO TALK TO COMMISSIONER ALLEN. WE TROUBLE, I GOT TO BRIDGE YOU GUYS OUT SO I CAN TALK TO TWO HERE. WELL Y'ALL WANT TAKE ABOUT ABOUT 15 MINUTE BREAK. WILL THAT GIVE YOU ENOUGH TIME? YEAH. WORKS SO WE CAN USE HER OFFICE. GUYS, DON'T MIND. IT'S REALLY QUICK. OKAY. JUST TAKE A BREAK. WE'LL HANDCUFF YOU. COME ON TALKING. I TEXTED RANDY ABOUT SIGNS Y'ALL WERE TALKING ABOUT. MM-HMM. THAT'S, HE SAID, UH, CHANGES SHE'S MADE, OFFERED SOME SIGNS. HE SUGGESTED THAT WE TRAIN SOMEONE ELSE TOO. AND UH, HE SAID THAT ONE THE REASONS KATHY GOT OUT, SHE PAY FOR THE MATERIAL BUDGET. BUT I EXPECT THAT'S WHAT HE SAID. PROBLEM FIGURE OUT HE ACT IT A PROBLEM. WELL AND THAT'S WHAT I TOLD HIM THAT HE BUT IT JUST, YOU KNOW, GOT HABIT. WELL YEAH, BECAUSE THEY'VE BEEN TURNING US DOWN EVERYBODY BACK. OKAY. WE WERE TOLD TO JUST GET THEM ELSEWHERE. DIDN'T WE NEED TO GET A ANIMAL THAT'S ONE WAY OR THE OTHER. YEAH. AND WE, IF WE NEED TO BUY SUPPLIES, WE CAN DO THAT OR WHATEVER. WE USED TO CARRY THE MONEY IN FUND 20 AND THEN SHE BROUGHT IT UP THAT SOME OF THE ROAD SIGNS OR SOME OF THE EQUIPMENT OR SUPPLIES TO PUT IT TOGETHER, SHE'D COME OUT OF EACH PRECINCT. REMEMBER THAT? YEAH. BECAUSE WHEN I GOT IN THERE, MY QUESTION WAS I'M MISSING NEARLY EVERY SIGN IN MY PRECINCT. MM-HMM. SO I ASKED RAY, WHAT DO WE DO? OH, WE GOT A SIGN DEPARTMENT WITH A SIGN BUDGET. NO PROBLEM. I STARTED MAKING SIGN. THEY SAY NO, I GET THE CALL. YOU USED UP ALL THE EVERYBODY'S SIGN THAT YOU TOLD HIM. CALL THE SIGN MAN TO TELL, YOU KNOW, HE DID WHAT YOU JUST TOLD HIM. YEAH. AND, AND THEN WE FOUND OUT THAT MM-HMM . WHAT THE DEALER WAS. OH. THERE WAS ONLY CERTAIN PIECES OF THAT THAT HE USED OUT OF THAT THE REST HAD TO BE CHARGED TO YOUR PARKING. REMEMBER THAT. ANYWAY, UH, GOOD JOB. POSITIVE. AND WHAT I SUGGEST TO DO, PROBABLY JUST CALL RANDY, [05:25:01] YOU KNOW, GET, WE'VE EACH GOT A SIGNED BUDGET SO WE CAN BUY THE MATERIALS, YOU KNOW, INDIVIDUAL BUDGET. BUT EVIDENTLY DANNY IS THE ONLY ONE THAT CAN DO WE WORK OUT. YEAH. ACROSS. OKAY, SO NOW WE'RE DOWN TO, UH, GEORGE, HERE'S THE LAST ONE. AND IT'S NOT BY DESIGN, IT'S JUST KIND OF HOW IT WORKED OUT. ALPHABETICAL ORDER. YEAH, I GUESS THAT PROBABLY. AND SO, UH, THE FLASH OFF THE BACK OF MY HEAD. . THAT'S ALRIGHT. WE GOT OUR SUNGLASSES. . BE SURE TO, UH, TALK IN THE EAST TEXAS ENGLISH SO WE CAN ALL COMPREHEND WHAT YOU'RE THE QUEEN'S ENGLISH. YEAH. YES. WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. SO YOU WANT JUST KIND OF START AT THE TOP AND GO DOWN. SURE. AND YOU'VE DONE THIS, YOU WENT OVER THE BUDGET THE OTHER DAY AND THERE'S SOME GOOD, GOOD INFORMATION I THINK HE'S GOT FOR US. YEAH. AND THE ONE THAT I, UM, TURNED IN, I HAD COVERED. SO DO YOU HAVE A COPY? YES, I DO. SO THE OVERALL AMOUNT IS LESS THAN MY, UM, CONSOLIDATED. WOULD YOU LIKE A COLORED ONE? GIVE YOU ONE COLORED ONE. WHAT HAPPENED? WINE. WINE MOVE REAL HARD TO FIND THE COLOR. SO, UM, Y'ALL MAKE COPIER FROM THESE. WE CONSOLIDATED SOME OF THE CHARGES AND WHILE WE MAINTAINED ON THE VOICING DATA, WE MAINTAINED 1 24. UM, WE ARE BEGINNING A PROJECT, THIS PARTICULAR THE BRIEF EXPLANATION, BUT THERE'S UM, WE HAVE TWO LOCAL EXCHANGE CARRIERS HERE IN HOFFLAND AND WE HAVE ONE IN THE NORTHERN PART OF THE COUNTY. SO, UM, FOUR AND TAR WOULD BE AT T. AND IN THIS, IN THIS AREA, WE HAVE CENTURY LENGTH AND WE HAVE TALL. SO THERE WAS, THERE'S A PROTOCOL CALLED MPLS, UM, MULTILAYERS, BUT MULTI BACK. IT'S A PROTOCOL THAT ALLOWS US TO MAKE A CONNECTION FROM OUR SECURE NETWORK HERE TO ANOTHER NETWORK WITHOUT USING A PP. AND THE BENEFIT TO THAT WOULD BE WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO DO. IN FACT, WE COMPLETED THE WORK DOWN IN CAMP AND WE'LL BE ABLE TO RUN THE PHONES FROM THE WORK WE DID IN EOC. SO THE GOAL THERE WOULD BE TO ELIMINATE THE LOCAL EXCHANGE CARRIER OVER THE LAST MILE CHARGES. SO WHAT WE WOULD DO IS PORT YOUR NUMBERS TO THE PRI. WE'RE GONNA PUT IN EOC. WHAT? P? PRIMARY RATE. PRIMARY RATE. ISN. IT'S A, IT IS A DIGITAL LINE. IT IS A DIGITAL LINE THAT HAS 24 CHANNELS TO IT. OKAY. AND SO THAT LINE, WE'RE MOVING FROM THE SOUTH CAMPUS OVER TO THE EOC. AND I REMEMBER I SAID TALKING, THE GOAL IS TALKING TO, WE WANT, WE WANT TO ELIMINATE THE COPPER PHONE AT THE REMOTE LOCATED. OKAY. WE CAN DO THAT WITH THE PROJECT. WE'RE IN THE MIDDLE OF RIGHT NOW. OKAY. AND THAT WILL CUT HOPEFULLY THE AT T NORTH AND THE, UH, CENTURYLINK. OKAY. THAT'S WHAT THAT ONES, OKAY, SO THE CENTURYLINK SERVES KAUFMAN. YEAH, THEY'RE THE LOCAL EXCHANGE CARRIER FOR THE KAUFMAN AREA. ALRIGHT. WHAT IS THE OTHER COMPANY NAME? NATIONAL TELE NATIONAL. WE HAVE TWO LOCAL EXCHANGE CARRIERS. OKAY. SO WE ACTUALLY USE BOTH HERE IN TON. REALLY? AND WE DO IT BECAUSE, UM, SHOULD ONE LOCAL EXCHANGE CARRIER FAIL THE OTHER? SO WE, WE DON'T QUIT, WE JUST GO BETWEEN. OKAY. BUT BY DOING THIS, IT WOULD, UH, YEAH, OUR GOAL IS TO ELIMINATE SOME OF THE HOLES THAT WE HAVE AND THAT WE WOULDN'T HAVE TO PAY SERVICE FOR. THEY GIVE US HIGHER SPEED DURING THAT SERVICE. UM, YOU'LL HAVE IT. ABSOLUTELY. OKAY. YES. AND, AND THE NETWORK CONNECTION BACK TO HERE WILL BE BECAUSE INSTEAD OF GOING THROUGH A ENCRYPT PN, IT'LL BE THROUGH THAT. OKAY. AND YOU'LL HAVE DATA AND ALL TAKE I WANT A C. YEAH, IT'S A TEST CONTROL COMPANY. I THAT ALRIGHT. IS GONNA GET MY COMPUTER PASSED OVER THE OTHER ONE. HE'S THE GUINEA PIG. WE [05:30:01] WORK AT ALL. THAT'S, WELL THEY DID. I MEAN, IT TOOK FOREVER FOR IT ON TRACK THERE. OVER THE YEARS THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF DISCUSSION ON MOBILE DEVICES. THAT THAT NUMBER IS NOT JUST PHONES, IT ALSO INCLUDES MOBILE. YOU STILL HAVE , IT INCLUDES AIR, AIR CARDS AND VARIOUS THINGS. AND I KNOW JACK HAS TALKED ABOUT IT. WE'VE TALKED ABOUT POSSIBLY USING A STIPEND, ELIMINATING THE PHONES. I KNOW YOU GUYS PAY FOR IT OUTTA YOUR, UM, YOU WERE GOING ON BUDGET AND I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS WE'RE GONNA TRY TO DO IS TAKE SOME OF THE PHONES, RIGHT. THAT WE'RE GONNA, THE RADIOS WE'RE GONNA GIVE UP AND LET YOU GUYS ROAD THIS WAY. WE PROBABLY ELIMINATE, THEY PROBABLY HAVE TO, WELL, MOST OF 'EM GONNA HAVE THEIR OWN PHONE ANYWAY I GUESS. YEAH. BUT, BUT IT WOULD AT LEAST, THEY'D PROBABLY HAVE ONE COUNTY PHONE IN CASE OF THE ROAD. I MEAN, SO DIRECTED TRAFFIC OVER THE HILL. THEY CAN USE THE RADIO. YEAH. ALRIGHT. PUBLIC DEFENDER. WE HAVEN'T HAD ANYTHING NEW THERE. SO, STATUS QUO. UM, AS YOU KNOW, A COUPLE YEARS AGO WE ROLLED ALL THE SOFTWARE MAINTENANCE AND SUPPORTED IN THIS BUDGET. MADE THINGS A LITTLE CLEANER IN THE PAST. YOU KNOW, THERE WERE SOME DEPARTMENTS THAT WOULD MAYBE OVER OR UNDERSTATE THE VALUE. AND, UH, OFTEN WHEN BILLS WERE PAID OR SUPPOSED TO BE PAID, BUT MONEY WASN'T THERE. SO WE KIND OF CONSOLIDATED TO SIMPLIFY THAT. THAT'S WHY YOU SEE ALL THE DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS IN THERE. SO EC OF COURSE, THAT'S OUR, UM, ELECTION SOFTWARE. UH, ESRI AS YOU KNOW. LET'S, LET'S GO BACK TO EC EC. WE'RE SHOWING A, UH, INCREASE. UH, WELL WE WE'RE SHOWING A REQUESTED BUDGET OF 89,000. OKAY. WHAT WE DID THERE IS I TALKED WITH TANYA AND HER FOLKS AND THE CHARGES FOR CONDUCTING THE ELECTION CONSUMABLES AND VARIOUS THINGS LIKE THAT. SHE, THEY BELIEVED THAT THEY WOULD REPORT THAT IN THEIR, I TALKED TO TANYA AND AT 57,000 THAT SHE WENT OVER, SHE SAID, YEAH, SHE SAID THAT. YEAH, SHE WAS TAKING 400 SOMETHING THOUSAND DOLLARS. SO YOU, YOUR BUDGET GOING DECREASE BY THAT. UM, THE DIFFERENCE THERE FROM LAST YEAR, YOU LOOK AT, IF YOU LOOK AT VO-TECH, YOU'LL SEE WHAT THE ACTUAL WAS FOR THE PRIOR YEAR. SEVEN, SIX. WHAT'S HE SAYING? SO WHAT WE, WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT FOR THIS YEAR'S BUDGET IS 89 8 53. SO IF YOU TAKE OUT CONSUMABLE THINGS REQUIRED TO ELECTION, THAT DROPS UP 3 5, 1 57. SO THAT WOULD BE THE ACTUAL BUDGET NUMBER. YES. FAR YOUR ACTUAL BUDGET NUMBER. YEAH. WELL, I, INSTEAD OF MAKING THE DIFFERENCE, I JUST PUT DOWN WHERE IT WAS. OKAY. SO FOR LINE 45 0 2, I MEAN 6 9 7 45 0 2, THAT WOULD BE THE, UH, 35 1 57 6 6. RIGHT? YEAH. THE COLUMN, INSTEAD OF SAYING I JUST MARKED 2016, JUST SOMETHING 57. 57,000 1 31 MARKED THAT HE'S, HE'S, UH, ON THE TAX OFF. YES. HE'S TAKEN LOWER HIS BY THAT. TRUE. WELL, I CAN'T, IF YOU LOOK AT THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THIS YEAR AND LAST YEAR, THAT'S, I'M SURE SHE'S GONNA HAVE MORE BECAUSE WE HAVE MARCH COMING UP. THAT WAS WHAT ESRI. SO WE HIRED, UH, WE HAVE ANOTHER GUY THAT, UH, MANAGES THE MAPPING. AND THIS WOULD BE TRAINING AND THE LICENSING TO RUN THE ESRI SOFTWARE AND CONSUMABLE. SO WE HAVE A LARGE ROLLING STOCK PRINTER, PRINT, UH, MAPS AND SO ON. THESE ARE ALL VARIOUS THINGS INCLUDED TO, UH, RUN THAT PART. THE DEPARTMENT. SO WE, WE'VE SPENT AROUND, WELL WE BUDGETED 30,000 LAST YEAR. LAST YEAR AND YEAR. AND WE'VE GOT WHERE IT SAYS REQUESTED 30,000, BUT YOU'RE SAYING 13,000 IS THE CORRECT NUMBER. MM-HMM . OKAY. NEXT ONE. TRUE AUTOMATION THAT GOES AWAY ABOUT TRUE AUTOMATION. NOW THAT WAS SO TRUE. THAT WAS OUR TAX COLLECTION SOFTWARE, UH, FOR SEVERAL YEARS. THIS IS SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE, WE'VE BEEN THROUGH FOUR DIFFERENT COMPANIES. BUT, UM, WE HAVE GONE TO A HOSTED PRODUCT FROM LINEBARGER CALLED ACT THE ACRONYM IS THAT, [05:35:01] YOU'LL SEE THAT DOWN DOWN THERE A LITTLE BIT. BUT TRUE AUTOMATION, UH, THAT GOES AWAY IN SEPTEMBER. UH, JACK HAS ALREADY GIVEN A NOTICE, THEY CANCELED. AND, UH, SPW OUR FINANCIAL SOFTWARE GONE UP A LITTLE BIT. I THINK THERE'S A SPECIAL PROJECT OR A LITTLE EXTRA THAT WAS PUT IN THERE FOR TRAINING. MM-HMM . AS FAR AS I KNOW, THE SOFTWARE AND EVERYBODY'S HAPPY AND KUMBAYA. I MEAN, I'M NOT HEARING ANY COMPLAINTS ABOUT IT. THAT'S WHY THEY CALL IT SOFTWARE THAT WORKS. RIGHT. . NEXT LINE ITEM IS OUR, OUR AUTOMATED TIMEKEEPING. THAT'S OUR HOSTED PRODUCT WHERE THE FOLKS PUNCH IN REMOTELY OR USE A TIME CLOCK, UH, FIRE PROGRAMS. THAT'S A PRODUCT WE PURCHASED FOR RANDY LAST YEAR WHERE THEY HAVE CASE MANAGEMENT SOFTWARE AND INTEGRATION TO, UH, SOUTHERN THAT THAT FEE IS THE ONLY MAINTENANCE NET MOTION WIRELESS, UH, THAT PRODUCT IS FOR MOBILITY FOR FIRE, POLICE AND SHERIFF. SO THE FIRE DEPARTMENTS AND SHERIFF'S OFFICE THAT GIVES US THE ABILITY TO RUN OUR SOFTWARE IN THE VEHICLE. THAT'S, THAT WENT OUT A LITTLE BIT. THAT WENT DOWN. I FOUND A BETTER, UH, I FOUND A GUY TO, UM, SELL OUT TO US IN CHEAPER. UM, ACTUALLY THE SAME GUY THAT, UH, IS HELPING US OUT WITH CVE ANALYTICS, THAT'S, UM, TIES IN INTO GIS. IT'S, UH, CRIME ANALYSIS SOFTWARE IS A PRODUCT WE PURCHASED LAST YEAR. AND YOU'LL NOTICE A HIGHER FIGURE THERE. THAT FIGURE THAT IS COMING HERE WILL JUST BE FOR THE ANNUAL OF SUPPORT. OUR, OUR COLLECTION, TAX COLLECTION SOFTWARE THAT WE HAVE TODAY IS, UH, UP AND RUNNING. AND WHAT WE'RE DOING IS WE'RE GONNA RUN THAT CURRENTLY WITH TRUE AUTOMATION IN FOR ABOUT A COUPLE OF MONTHS. AND OUR ANNUAL FEE NEXT YEAR WILL BE 46 6. 6.6. HOW UP THAT WITH TRUE AUTO AUTOMATION TAX UP TOP THAT 27. AND WE'RE BUYING AND SELLING FOR 40. YEAH, WE BOUGHT IT THIS YEAR. WE, WE DID A GO LAB THIS YEAR. WE RUNNING IT NOW. IS THAT A BETTER PROGRAM OBVIOUSLY THAN WHAT WE HAVE? YEAH. FOR, THERE ARE SEVERAL REASONS WHY. THE BEST PART IS IT'S OFFITE AND MY GOAL, PERSONAL GOAL IS TO DRIVE AS MUCH STUFF IN CLOUD OUR HOSTED ENVIRONMENT. ALL OF OUR DISASTER RECOVERY AND BACKUPS ARE OKAY. AND SO THAT'S, UH, THIS WILL BE THIS, THIS COMPANY IS THE SAME FOLKS WHO E FILING AN E-SIGNATURE. WE'RE GOING BY THAT RIGHT NOW AS WE SPEAK. PURCHASED. UM, THE ANNUAL MAINTENANCE FOR E-SIGNATURE AND, AND, AND, UH, E-FILING WILL BE, YOU'LL NOTICE AN INCREASE IN THE PILOT OF TECHNOLOGIES THAT'S ROLLED INTO THAT LAST YEAR'S, YOU KNOW, WE PURCHASED, WE PURCHASED TICKET RIDER. LEMME GO BACK TO THE E-FILING. IT'S GOING BE ZERO. YEAH, BUT I MEAN, HAVE WE, IS THAT THE MONEY WE TRANSFERRED FROM THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT? IT CAME FROM A FEW PLACES. WE BUDGETED FOR IT AND WE ADDED A LITTLE BIT EXTRA, REMEMBER FOR THE, THE E-SIGNATURE PART. RIGHT. OKAY. SO WE BUDGETED 93,000. WE HADN'T SPENT ANYTHING YET. RIGHT. WE STILL HAVE 93,000. YEAH. THAT'S WHY WE, UNTIL WE'RE DONE, WE HAVEN'T PAID. WE PAY TYLER. IS THAT THE THING WE'RE WAITING ON? ON E E-FILING THE JUDGES? NO, THERE'S NO, WE'RE GOING. OKAY. SO WE'RE GONNA GET A BILL THEN FOR ANNUAL BATTERY THOUSAND APPROXIMATELY, BUT WE DON'T HAVE TO BUDGET FOR NEXT YEAR. RIGHT. SEE, WE BUDGETED 60,000. WE UPPED IT TO COVER E SIGNATURE. OKAY. WE STARTED WITH THE 60. WE FOUND THAT THEN HE CAME BACK AT THE E-SIGNATURE WOULD BE 33. AND WE WENT, FOUND THAT TO COVER THAT. OKAY. WE FOUND THAT THE NEXT YEAR. WE'RE YOU THE BOTTOM LINE IS AT THE, YEAH. NOT ON THAT LINE, BUT, SO BRIAN, WE BOUGHT TICKET RIDER THIS PAST YEAR. ANNUAL MAINTENANCE IS 52. 5,200. AND IS THAT SOMETHING THAT CAN BE CHARGED TO THE, UH, JB TECHNOLOGY? [05:40:01] UM, YOU KNOW, I ASKED UH, JAY BARDEN ABOUT THAT. THEY WON'T YEAH, THEY DIDN'T, THEY DID NOT WANNA PAY FOR IT. THEY WON'T PAY FOR IT OR THEY COULD PAY FOR IT. I KNOW THEY'RE NOT UNLESS, WELL, I MEAN I HUNDRED DOLLARS BALANCE IN THAT, IN THEIR TECHNOLOGY. WELL, IF WE PAY FOR IT SINCE IT MAKES IT EASIER FOR THE SECRETARY, STREAMLINE THEIR, I MEAN, UNLESS THERE'S A LEGAL T RIGHT. I THINK I HAVE, I HAVE NO IDEA. JUDGE. I I KNOW THAT IT'S, THE STUFF SAT THERE FOR LIKE FOUR OR FIVE MONTHS BEFORE SOMEBODY GOT A HOLD OF IT AND SAID, WE NEED TO GET THIS UP AND RUNNING. RIGHT. WE DONE SPENT SO MUCH MONEY. YEAH, I'VE HEARD THAT STORY. BUT I DO KNOW THEY'VE GOT, THEY HAVE NEARLY 200,000 IN THAT THEY GOT QUITE A BIT IN THE TECHNOLOGY. IT'S A LOT OF MONEY THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, IN THE TECHNOLOGY FUND. BUT IT HAS TO BE SPENT ON JPS. IF WE COULD TAKE IT OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND. I MEAN, IT'S NOT A BIG AMOUNT, BUT CAN YOU CHECK ON THAT OR DO YOU WANT ME TO CHECK ON IT OR? I'D PREFER YOU CHECK ON IT SINCE GEORGE HAS ALREADY ASKED AND HE WAS STILL FINE. . I DON'T KNOW WHAT I'M ASKING ABOUT, BUT I'LL MUDDY THE WATER ANYWAY. SO THAT NEXT ITEM, UH, THAT'S FOR STEVE HUEY. IF THERE'S A TORNADO OR IT'S SOME DISASTER, UM, THERE'S PROTOCOLS THAT HE HAS TO FOLLOW CALLED NIMS, NATIONAL INCIDENT MANAGEMENT SYSTEM. AND THIS SOFTWARE DOES MANAGES A, SOMETHING LIKE A TORNADO FROM SUPER NUTS APPARENTLY. AND THE STEVE HAD THIS ON HIS NO, WHERE THIS, WHAT HE HAD ON HIS WAS, UH, 50,000 FOR THE UM, UH, WALL OF EYES, FOR LACK OF A BETTER TERM. BUT HE HAD A VIDEO ALL HE WANTED PUT IN THE, BUT THIS WAS NOT A BECAUSE SOFT, BUT HE'D USE IT IF WE HAVE A TORNADO WHERE HE MIGHT WANT USE HIS SAW. YEAH. BUT IT, IT AFFECTS LAW ENFORCEMENT. IT AFFECTS FIRE BECAUSE IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S . WELL I CALL THE DAMAGE THAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE ON THE EXACTLY. ON THIS FROM THE ROAD. OTHER. THAT'S WHAT IT'S A PACKAGE THAT WE MANAGE THIS OFF. MANAGE THAT CRITER FOR THE FLOOD DAMAGE. YEAH. I MEAN THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. IT'S HIS BUT SIX ONE HAS TO ANOTHER PAY FOR HIS FUND OR OUT TECHNOLOGY. IF THAT'S WITH N JUDGE, WOULDN'T THAT HAVE LIKE THE RATES THAT THE, THAT THE FEMA APPROVED? LIKE FOR WHAT? PER HOUR? PER DUMP TRUCK? PER HOUR. PER WAIT MIND. IT WOULD, IT SEEMS LIKE THAT WOULD HELP FILL OUT THOSE REPORTS TO BE ABLE TO, YOU KNOW, REQUEST THE REFUND. YEAH. DID Y'ALL SEE THE EMAIL FROM HIM? UH, THAT UH, WE'RE THERE, YOU KNOW, WHEN THEY COME IN AND SURVEY THE DAMAGE, THEY'RE NOT GONNA LOOK AT EVERY ROAD. THEY'RE GOING TO PICK OUT LIKE SIX OR SEVEN ROADS, SEVEN ROAD. THEY DON'T HAVE HAVE LOOK STATE NO'S. NOT BECAUSE ENTIRE COUNTY TRUST. JUST WAY THAT KIND OF TIME. THEY SPEND MORE MONEY INSPECTING THAN IT WOULD IT OUT. YOU TOTALLY WASHED OUT. AND DID YOU PUT 40? YEAH. ACTUALLY CUTTING OUT. YEAH. BRIDGES WERE PROBABLY WASHED OUT. I HAD THE BRIDGES WITH COLD AND I WASHED OUT. YEAH, I DIDN'T HAVE ANY WASHED OUT. I GOT A LOT OF DAMAGE ON ENTRANCE AND EXIT ENDS. I'M GONNA HAVE TO ADD LOT, BUT NONE OF NONE OF THEM WERE COMPLETELY TAKEN OUT. THAT'S PROBABLY SOME OF WE WANNA SHOWN THEM. YEAH, WE HAD A LOT OF ROCK STILL YESTERDAY. COMPUTER REPAIR. SO CAROLINA, WHAT THAT'S FOR IS FOLKS, UH, DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS. THEY CAN'T FORECAST WHEN, UH, EQUIPMENT FAILS. SO THIS IS FOR ANYTHING THAT'S NOT FORESEE. A LARGE CHUNK OF THAT GOES TO, UH, OUR MAINTENANCE, THE PHONES THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY AND ALL PHONE SWITCHES AND ARREST LEAVE FOR COMPUTERS AND HAND PHONES AND ANY, ANYTHING WOULD'VE FAILED. WE DIDN'T FORECAST OR PREDICT [05:45:02] INFRASTRUCTURE. WE'VE KIND OF ITEMIZED A LITTLE BIT. WE'VE HAD A REQUEST FOR 35 NEW LAPTOPS FOR THE TAX OFFICE TO BE DEPLOYED, UM, DURING ELECTIONS. UM, VARIOUS DEPARTMENTS HAVE REQUESTED SOME, YEAH. UH, 30, 35 TAX. YEAH. THEY HAVE 35 PLACES TO VOTE. YEAH. OH. AND, AND THE REST ARE AMONGST DIFFERENT LOCATIONS WITHIN THE COUNTY. WHAT HAPPENS TO THEM AFTER THE VOLUME IS OVER THEY STORM? IS THERE A LACK OF A SPECIAL? HOW MUCH IT COST THERE? A LACK OF, WE, UH, WE SHOP AND GET THE BEST PRICE. 35 FOR THAT PRICE IS CHEAP. I MEAN TYPICALLY A LAPTOP IS 11 400 BUCKS. THAT'S 17. ARE THEY, ARE THEY SPECIFIC FOR ELECTION USE FOR SOMETHING? USE THOSE LITTLE TABLETS. UNITED COULD I WANT BE, WE'VE ACTUALLY DONE A SHERIFF OFFICE. WE SOME TABLETS, IPADS, IPADS. BUT MOSTLY WE'RE USING ARE WINDOWS BASE TABLET. THEY'RE CHEAPER AND YOU KNOW, JUST THEY COULDN'T USE THOSE INSTEAD OF LAPTOPS OR NO, WE, WE WENT DOWN THAT ROAD. WE TRIED THAT AND PLUS WE HAVE ATTACH THINGS TOO. WE GOT A BUNCH OF LITTLE OLD LADIES RUNNING THE ELECTION. SO LITTLE OLD LADIES IS BOTH LITTLE OLD MEN. YES. OLD MAN. HAVE ANY OLD MEN OR, I, I THREW IT OUT FOR DISCUSSION. I DUNNO IF HE MAY HAVE DIDN'T ANYTHING. JUST TRYING TO MAKE SURE WE COVERED ALL OUR S SO THAT, THAT NEXT ITEM WE PULLED OUT LAST YEAR, YOU KNOW, TO TRY TO BALANCE THE BUDGET WE PULLED OUT LAST YEAR. UM, MUCH OF THE CISCO INFRASTRUCTURE IN OUR COUNTY NEEDS TO BE REPLACED. UM, TELL US EXACTLY WHEN YOU SAY CISCO INFRASTRUCTURE. OKAY, CISCO. THAT, THAT SWITCHING OF ROUTING. SO IF YOU GO IN THE BACK ROOM, UM, EVERYTHING FROM THE LAST AREA OF RESPONSIBILITY OF THE PHONE, PHONE COMPANY, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A TELCO, D TELCO, DMAR FROM THERE INTO OUR EQUIPMENT. EVERYTHING FROM THE DA INTO OUR RACK. SO ANY ROUTING SWITCHING VPN DEVICE, UM, CISCO A SA ADAPT, ADAPTIVE SECURITY FLIGHT. OUR FIREWALLS, UM, CISCO PICKS IS, IS A LOT OF STUFF IS HOT. I MEAN, A LOT OF STUFF FROM THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE ESPECIALLY, YOU KNOW, IT'S BEEN OUT HERE SINCE BUILT THAT. AND FOR CJS REQUIREMENTS, WE'RE WE'RE, WE'RE WE'RE SUPPOSED TO HAVE C REQUIREMENTS IS C COMMON IS, UH, CGI IS, UM, SO WE REPORT, UM, WE RUN T LESS OR RUN CRIMINAL JUSTICE DATA. UM, WE HAVE TO COMPLY WITH, UH, FBI AND WITH D PS AUSTIN. AND THE REQUIREMENTS ARE THAT THE CISCO INFRASTRUCTURE THAT DATA RISES ON IS CURRENT UP TO DATE AND CAN BE FLASHED WITH HIGHER, NEWER VERSION OF SOFTWARE. AND THERE COMES A POINT IN TIME WHEN A PIECE OF EQUIPMENT BECOMES INTO LIGHT AND YOU CAN'T. SO THAT'S ONE REASON WHY. AND THE OTHER IS OTHER REASONS IS THE EQUIPMENT'S OLD AND IT DOESN'T HAVE THE SPEED THAT NEW EQUIPMENT. SO, YOU KNOW, THE DESKTOP PERFORMANCE, THE COURTHOUSE OF COURSE BE A LOT BETTER. MOST WE CHANGE OUT ALL ISSUES. WELL THAT'S ABOUT LITTLE, UH, I MEAN THAT'S NOT MUCH MORE WHAT WE BUDGETED THIS YEAR. SO THAT'S ABOUT WE DID LAST YEAR. OKAY. AND I'M TRYING TO, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'VE ASKED FOR MORE TRAINING ON THE OTHER PAGE. YOU KNOW, I'M TRYING TO GET, UM, BARBARA AND SOME OTHER FOLKS, THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT, THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS IN THE CANADA THAT I'VE DONE EXCLUSIVELY. IT'S JUST ME. AND I'M TRYING TO GET TO WHERE WE CAN OFFLOAD IT TO THE CLOUD OR YOU KNOW, WE CAN GET EVERYBODY TRAINED. UM, AND THE LAST LINE ITEM IN THAT INFRASTRUCTURE IS SINCE 2001, WE'VE HOUSED AND MAINTAINED AND RUN OUR OWN MAIL . AND WE'VE USED A LINUX BASED PRODUCT AND IT'S COST THE COMPANY, THE COUNTY ZERO QUALITY, BUT IT'S TIMING AWAY FROM IT. SO THAT LINE ITEM THERE FOR THE 28,000 WOULD BE TO DO ONE OF TWO THINGS, REPLACE THE INFRAS, REPLACE THE SERVERS WE HAVE NOW, AND THE EQUIPMENT THAT'S INVOLVED TO PROTECT IT, WEB FILTERS. AND SO, OR WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO IS HOST, I WOULD LIKE TO GO TO MICROSOFT AND USE HOSTED EXCHANGE USE, UM, OFFICE 360 AND START WITH A BASE PRICE FOR ALL THE EMPLOYEES THAT HAVE AN EMAIL ACCOUNT. AND THEN IN THE FUTURE, AS NEW FOLKS CAME ON BOARD, WE COULD USE OFFICE 360 WOULD BECOME THEIR MICROSOFT OFFICE SO THEY COULD USE IT ON ANY PRODUCT BECAUSE IT'S, UH, BY SUBSCRIPTION AND UM, JUST, I THINK IT'S A GOOD TIME TO DO IT. UM, JUST TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA, SMITH COUNTY, SMITH COUNTY, UH, BUDGETS 150,000 [05:50:02] ANNUALLY FOR EXCHANGE. UM, COUNTY, OUR SIDE SAID SPEND 65 TO 40 TO 65,000. UM, THIS IS A BASE PRICE. THIS WOULD GET US JUST A MAILBOX, NO ARCHIVING. AND THAT LEADS ME INTO THE NEXT, NEXT DISCUSSION. FOR YEARS, WE'VE ARCHIVED TWO YEARS. SO EVERYTHING, ANY EMAIL, WE, WE HELD HER FOR TWO YEARS. AND I GUESS THE QUESTION IS, DO WE WANT CONTINUE TO DO THAT? WHAT DOES THE LAW REQUIRE? THERE ISN'T, THERE'S NO REQUIREMENT FOR GOVERNMENTAL AGENCIES WHAT MOST ENTITIES DO OR DO YOU KNOW? WE, IT VARIES. MANY OF THE FOLKS THAT I'VE TALKED TO THAT DID OR NOT ARE NOT, ARE NOT YET. A LOT OF FOLKS THAT DID DO IT ARE NOT DOING, I THINK WHAT I WOULD AS EARLY AND LITTLE BUSY THE DA AND TALK ABOUT THAT'S WHAT I WAS THINKING WE MIGHT, SHOULD DO. JUST SEE. OKAY. BECAUSE THERE IS A COST AND IT'S REALLY CONVENIENT WHEN, YOU KNOW, SOMEBODY BLOWS THEIR EMAIL UP AND WE BACK AND FORTH, THERE'S A COST. WELL, CAN YOU DO THAT PART? I'VE ALREADY STARTED THAT. YEAH. OKAY. SO THAT'S KIND OF A MOVING TARGET. PRICES MOVING TARGET. YOU CHOOSE TO DO ARCHIVE TWO YEARS. GEORGE, WHAT WOULD A, A LAPTOP AND A, UH, UTILITY CART COST FOR THE DISTRICT CLERK. SHE WAS ASKING FOR ONE IN HER BUDGET, IF YOU'LL REMEMBER TO TAKE, WHEN THEY DO THE JURIES TO SIGN 'EM IN SO THEY'RE NOT HAVING TO USE TAPE WHEN GO BACK AND DO THIS, DO THAT AND THEN GO BACK. SO THEY COULD WE'RE WE ARE BUYING REFURBISHED DELLS WITH WINDOWS SEVEN FOR BETWEEN SIX AND 700 LAPTOPS. YES. OKAY. THAT'S WHY THOSE, THOSE, UH, ELECTIONS, LAPTOPS, UH, WOULD, WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO SWING GOING IN AND TALKING TO HER AND ASKING HER WHAT SHE NEEDS? COOL. AND GETTING HER SET UP THIS YEAR INSTEAD OF, UH, SPINNING OUT. WHAT NEXT, LAURA, WHAT IS LAURA DOING NOW FOR JURY? SHE'S GOT IT ON A, SHE'S GOT A, A TABLET ON A THAT'S WHAT I, THAT'S WHAT I WAS GONNA SUGGEST ON AND A PRINTER ON AN ON THE CART. AND SHE ROLLS IT DOWN. SHE'S IN THE TABLET. YEAH. SAMSUNG, I THINK WELL LIKE THAT. YEP. 12.2 PRO. SO WOULD YOU GO AND FIND OUT? SURE. WHAT IS THAT? OKAY, JUDGE, YOU'RE THAT CHEAP. WE STILL GOT MONEY. THIS BUDGET, WE PROBABLY MAKE IT EASIER, MORE EFFICIENT THERE FROM OKAY. BECAUSE THEY HAVE THE SAME PROBLEM. YOU KNOW, COURTS IS DOWNSTAIRS. DISTRICT'S UPSTAIRS. YOU HAVE COURT ON THE MIDDLE FLOOR. THAT'S WHAT I WAS TO ASK. RIGHT. UP AND DOWN, UP DOWN. GOOD. WE NEED TO SOLVE SOMETHING TODAY. SO YOU INCREASE YOUR TRAINING. INSPECTION IS WHAT YOU WANT DO. WELL WE, THE FACT THAT FARMERS' GOING, SHE'S GONNA NIGHT SCHOOL RIGHT NOW. COURT. OKAY. UM, ONE OTHER THING I THINK WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT IS SECURITY. MOST COUNTIES, YOU KNOW, TODAY ALL WE DO IS HIT THAT COURTHOUSE SECURITY LINE OR HIT THE ONE THAT, YOU KNOW, JPS OFFICE. MOST COUNTIES BUDGET A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF YEAR FOR SECURITY. 'CAUSE THERE ARE FOLKS TODAY, YOU KNOW, WE'RE WANT SOMETHING. UM, AND I KNOW THEY SHOULD PROBABLY LOOK AHEAD AND THINK I NEED THIS FOR THE UPCOMING. OFTEN THEY JUST DON'T THINK IT. AND PART OF WHAT COURT, WHAT JACK BROUGHT COURT THE OTHER DAY AND WE VOTED ON WHICH DID OR SECURE. SO THERE'S A FEW THINGS WE'RE DOING NOW. WE WRAP THEM UP, DONE PURCHASE ORDERS FOR TRAIL OFFICE SUPPLY. WE'RE TRYING TO GET THAT TO PRE BID. ALARM. ALARM. OF COURSE OFFICE SUPPLY COULD DO IT TOO. MAYBE SO THEY COULD BACK IN THE DAY. YEAH. BUT ANYWAY, I'M JUST SAYING, SO JUST TO THROW THAT OUT THERE, WE, I THINK WE SHOULD BUDGET SOMETHING SO WE DON'T HAVE A SURPRISE. YOU, WE CAN GET YOU SOME NUMBERS ON SOME THINGS WE HAVE TO DO ONCE WE NARROW BANDED, WE CHANGE OUR RADIO SYSTEM. QUIT WORKING. WE DISCUSS THAT LAST WEEK, BUT WE DIDN'T HAVE FUNDS. BUT THAT CONDITION STILL EXISTS. SO PART OF WHAT WE HAVE TO DO, PART OF THE BID PROCESS COUNTY, [05:55:03] SOME OF THAT WE CAN DO OUT OF THE COURTHOUSE SECURITY FUND AND UH, THE JB TECHNOLOGY FUND. SO WE'LL HAVE, BUT I THINK WE HAVE FORECAST WHAT WE RIGHT. AND THIS IS HUNDRED 44,000 HERE. THAT'S THE SUM OF THOSE THINGS ARE. YEAH. UH, DO WE, WHERE WOULD THAT COME FROM? THAT IF YOU LOOK UP HERE ON, OH, THAT'S AN EXPLANATION OF THAT 40,000. DID YOU TALK ABOUT THE MAIL SERVER? I DID. YES I DID. WE HAD A DISCUSSION ABOUT 360 BEGINNING OF THE MAILBOX. AND AS WE MOVE ON, START, UH, LETTING EMPLOYEES HAVE THEIR OFFICE THROUGH OFFICE THREE HOST SO THEY COULD RUN EXCEL ON THEIR PHONE. YOU WANNA RUN EXCEL ON YOUR PHONE? SO HERE'S, HERE'S A, UM, APPLE IPHONE FOR MICROSOFT EXCEPT NOW WHO WOULD SEND US THIS INFORMATION? DO YOU WELL UPDATE ONCE YOU HAVE THIS EXAMPLE, THIS EXAMPLE HERE. CAUSE ZERO YOU CAN DOWNLOAD THAT. OH. AND WHAT I'VE DONE, WHAT I'VE DONE HERE IS I HAVE, UM, DROPBOX CAME WITH WORD AND EXCEL DOCUMENT. AND ALL I DO IS HOW OFTEN IS THIS UPDATED? HOW QUICK IS THIS UPDATED IN REAL TIME RIGHT NOW? REAL TIME RIGHT NOW? YEAH. SO IF I, YOU MODIFY THAT, IT'LL BE UPDATED IN DROPBOX AND UM, I'LL OPEN MY SAME DOCUMENT IN EXCEL HERE. SO IF I'M OUT, I CAN LOOK AT RIGHT. MY NUMBERS WITHOUT HAVING TO GO BACK TO THE OFFICE. RIGHT. ANYTHING LIKE THAT. YOU YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE SAME THING. SAME THING HERE. WE'RE GOING GET, UH, TABLET. THIS IS A LOT EASIER TO READ. THEY NEED GLASSES TO SEE THIS. DON'T NEED GLASSES. NO, I KNOW THIS. EITHER WE DON'T SHOOT TWO. MM-HMM. AND THIS IS, THIS IS ON OUR, THIS WHOLE COMPUTER ON THE BUDGET AND EVERYTHING. IN, IN WELL THE IDEA THING THAT WE DO WHEN YOU MOVE TO OFFICE 360, INSTEAD OF HAVING YEAH. ANYTHING INSTEAD OF BUYING THAT LICENSE THAT GOES WITH THAT COMPUTER. YOU DON'T HAVE TO TIED TO THAT COMPUTER OFFICE 360 IS ANYTHING, ANY DEVICE ANYWHERE. AND WE DO IT ON ANY SMARTPHONE. I MEAN IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE AP. THAT'S RIGHT. OKAY. DID WE GO OVER THE TYLER TECHNOLOGIES? UM, REQUEST THE 1 42. 1 8, 1 41. SO WE, HERE'S QUOTE I'M SAYING ON THE PHONE, IT'S GOING UP. I NOTICED ABOUT ABOUT 40. WELL WE PURCHASED NEW PRODUCT, WE PURCHASED UH, SIGNATURE AND UM, ONE OF 30. THIS IS A MAINTENANCE ON THAT. YEAH. AND THERE, THERE WERE THINGS THAT LAURA USED TO PAY, UH, THE KINDNESS OF THE HEART, BUT I THINK WE'VE TAKEN THEM, PUT THEM HERE. TWO WAS THE ONE. YEAH. YEAH, BECAUSE SHE PAYS ALL THE UH, LAND RECORD RECURRING COSTS. BUT THAT'S QUITE A BIT, ISN'T IT? HOW MUCH IS YOUR LAND RECORD? I, I THINK I SPEND ALMOST $80,000 IN MAIN MAINTENANCE AND SUPPORT FOR VARIOUS SOFTWARE PROGRAMS. YOU SPEND THAT MUCH A YEAR ON THERE? YES. SHE'S GOT THAT NON TAXPAYER MONEY. TAXPAYER MONEY. THE USER. I'M THINKING 30 DOWN TO HER HERE. OH, TAKE 35,000 TOMORROW. YOU ADDING HIS BUDGET. SO WE ACTUALLY, WITH THIS, UH, WE WAS SHOWING A DECREASE OF 133,000. [06:00:19] OKAY. THE NEXT PAGE. ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS? UH, NEXT PAGE IS THE REGULAR BUDGET AND THAT'S WHERE YOU SHOW THE, UH, BENEFITS. UH, CAR OUT THAT'S SPLIT AMONG THREE OF FOUR THREE. THE OFFICE WISE, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT INCREASE THERE? YEAH, I HAVE TO GO IN AND STEAL STUFF FROM JACK ALL THE TIME. SO HE TOLD ME I BETTER INCREASE IT. OTHERWISE BREAK MONEY AND YOUR ACTIVE PARTY INCREASE IN, UH, TRAVEL AND, UH, TRAINING EXPENSES. TRAGICALLY TECHNOLOGY TRAINING WAS EXPENSIVE. NOT AS BAD AS S WE LIKE TO DOCUMENT CURRENT KNOWLEDGE OF CERTIFICATIONS. YOU KNOW, WE DON'T, WE DON'T LIKE TO HAVE FOLKS COME IN AND CAN'T SAY I KNOW WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT. SO YOU, I HOLD, UM, SEVERAL, YOU KNOW, FORENSIC CERTIFICATIONS. ALL MY FOLKS ARE CERTIFI, UH, ON THAT. TELL US HOW THE GIS THING IS WORKING NOW SINCE IT'S VERY WELL, DID GAUGE GET WITH YOU ON ALL THE CHANGES TO THE MAP? WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THEM. I THINK IT'S AWESOME. YEAH, SO HE'S, HE'S JUST BEEN THROUGH REALLY WELL PRODUCING A LOT OF NEW MAPS. WE HAVE A MOBILE APPLICATION NOW THAT YOU CAN GO TO. YOU CAN EITHER DOWNLOAD A PDF, D, F AND APP OR YOU CAN GO TO AN INTERACTIVE PLAN. REALLY CLAND GIS COM AND UH, HE SHOWED SOME OF THE COMMISSIONERS HE WAS IN HERE. YES, A COUPLE WEEKS AGO. HE SHOWED THE COMMISSIONERS. SO HOW MUCH MORE DO WE HAVE TO DO ON THAT ON THE, ON THE COMMISSIONERS MAP WE'RE GONNA GO THROUGH, WE'RE STILL VERIFYING ALL THE ROADS 'CAUSE THERE WAS A LOT OF ROADS THAT WERE NOT THE SUBDIVISIONS. LOOKING AT THE SUBDIVISIONS THAT WERE ADDED SINCE 2007. AND THEN IF THE ROADS WERE ACCEPTED, THEN THEY'LL GO THROUGH THE MAINTENANCE BONDS AND THE CONSTRUCTION BONDS. HOW MANY MORE ROADS WERE THERE? I DON'T KNOW. HE HIGHLIGHTED THEM ABOUT FIVE PAGES, BUT NOT ALL OF THEM ON THE PAGE . BUT PROBABLY 150 IF I HAD TO GUESS. YEAH, HE'S BEEN WORKING ON THAT. HE ALSO, UH, RECREATED AN INTERACTIVE VOTING MAP WHERE YOU PUT YOUR ADDRESS AND IT DRAWS YOU THE MAP WHERE YOU VOTE AND TELLS YOU HOW TO DO IT. TERRIFIC. IT'S GOT STUFF. COOL. HAVE A PLACE VOTE FIRST. DON'T WE TALK ABOUT THE VOTING PLACES? ABOUT THE CONDITION. YOU KNOW, WE, WE, WHEN WE REDISTRICTED WE DROPPED IT FROM LIKE 47 TO 35, 42, 42 TO 35. AND THEY DO COMBINE 'EM IN SOME OF THE SMALLER ELECTIONS. BUT ON A LACK OF GENERAL ELECTION, AND I'M NOT AN EXPERT IN THIS, BUT IN THE GENERAL ELECTION, I'M NOT SURE HOW HOW WE DO THAT. UH UH BUT THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN FIND OUT OF COURSE. YOU KNOW, JUST CURIOUS IF I'M OVER IN 40, I CAN'T GET IT BACK TO THE BOX. WELL YOU OUGHT BE ABLE, YOU OUGHT BE ABLE. ELECTRONIC. I'M TALKING ABOUT WE DO ON VOTING. LET, THERE'S SOME COUNTIES I THINK THAT ARE DOING THAT NOW. MANY POLL PLACES CUT OUR YEAH, WE CAN GO ANYWHERE. WELL THEY DO IT EARLY IN EARLY ELECTION. THERE ARE SOME COUNTIES THAT'S DOING THAT NOW THAT WHERE YOU CAN VOTE IN ANY SUB COURTHOUSE BECAUSE IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT PRECINCT, YOU CAN JUST TAKE IT IN THERE AND IT, SINCE YOU'RE DOING IT ELECTRONIC, WHEN YOU PUT YOUR NUMBER IN IT DON. BUT I THINK YOU TALKING ABOUT ON THE EARLIER OR THE REGULAR EARLY? WELL I THINK THERE'S SOME COUNTIES THAT ARE ACTUALLY DOING IT ON THE DATA OF BOTH ON THE ELECTION. YEAH. WHICH MAKES SENSE TO ME BECAUSE IT'S JUST EASIER. WELL I THINK ONCE THEY GO TO THAT SYSTEM THEN YOU CAN VOTE FOR ANY OF THEM. YEAH, I THINK SO TOO. BUT I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU BECOME A PART OF THAT. I MEAN GOTTA DO SOMETHING. I GUESS IT COULD BE ALL ELECTRONIC. YEAH. YEAH. AND I THINK THAT CUTS OUT THE ISSUES. YOU TALKING ABOUT BUYING 35 NEW COMPUTERS? YEAH, MAYBE WE ONLY EIGHT WE HAVE. IT'S ALL OVER HERE. THINK WE THAT I I'M JUST SAYING, YOU KNOW, 20 OR TWO. CUT IT HALF ANYWAY. THEY CUT HEAVY. DOESN'T HAVE, PEOPLE DON'T SHOW UP TO VOTE. YEAH, THEY WANT PEOPLE, [06:05:01] OLDER PEOPLE THEY WANT GO TO. I WANNA GO TO PEEL TOWN. I I DON'T WANT GO TO IF EVERYBODY DOES SHOW THEY ALL SHOW UP ONE SEVEN COURTHOUSE. THEY GOT LINE ALL THE WAY AROUND THE BLOCK DOWN THE STREET. LIKE IT USED TO HAVE A LONG TIME WHEN I WAS USED TO HAVE LINE A LONG TIME. I KNOW. I GUESS YOU FEW OF US IN HERE REMEMBER STAND ON A LONG LINE. YEAH. . OKAY. JUNE. ALRIGHT. ANY QUESTIONS OF UH, GEORGE, MR. REAR? WHAT WE'LL DO NOW KAREN'S GOT THE INFORMATION AND WE'LL UH, LET HER GIVE HER TIME TO PLUG THIS STUFF IN. WE STILL COURSE WON'T HAVE THE INSURANCE AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF, BUT WE'LL SCHEDULE ANOTHER TIME SOMETIME HERE. WELL NOT, I DON'T THINK SO. THEY DID AND THEN UH, WE'LL, UH, WE ARE GOING NEED TO SCHEDULE A WORKSHOP. WE'VE GOT THREE OR FOUR THINGS KIND OF HANGING OUT THERE THAT WE NEED GET DONE ON A WORKSHOP. I'LL TRY TO GET WITH TO FIND A GOOD DAY. DO THAT. AND IN THAT REGARD, HELP ME REMEMBER THOSE TO I LEAVE SOMETHING OFF. SO IF YOU WANNA SEND ME AN EMAIL ABOUT SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE ON THE WORKSHOP, DO THAT. SO WHAT ABOUT THE RECIPE IN THE BOOK HERE? UH, DON'T GET ANYTHING SHELF ANYBODY. WELL I MEAN LIKE MARY AND UH, MARY, UH, I MEAN WE CAN, I DON'T THINK SHE ASKED FOR ANYTHING FOR FURNITURE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT WORKSHOP, DISCUSS THESE ITEMS LIKE FURNITURE ITEMS AND POSSIBILITY. I THINK, I THINK WE CAN, I THINK WE NEED TO COME UP WITH A PLAN ON HOW WE CAN TAKE THAT ONE TAKE DECISION AWAY FROM THEY'LL BE MAN 10 YEAR BUT THE YEAR FOLLOW EVERYBODY BE USED TO IT DIDN'T MEAN THAT'S THE IDEA. WHAT DO WE DO ON LIKE, ON TRAVEL AND MEALS? DO WE HAVE A SET DOLLAR AMOUNT FOR MEALS? WE DO A PER DIEM PER DAY. UH, PER MEAL. YEAH. AND I DON'T REMEMBER WHAT THAT IS NOW. IT'S 46 FOR A FULL DAY AND IF YOU'RE HALF A DAY IS THE 23. OKAY. I NEVER, NO ONE EVER TOLD ME WHICH SKI I WENT AND WE ATE DOWN AT SOME $500 PLATE DEAL AND I REALLY, I BOUGHT IT AND WE ACTUALLY BOUGHT IT. SEE I DON'T WHY HE GRABBED THAT CHECK SO FAST. THEY DID THE INSURANCE GUYS, THEY MAKE MORE MONEY THAN EVERYBODY ELSE. THE ONE THAT WE'VE NOT DISCUSSED AND WE, IT'S EARLY TO DISCUSS, BUT WE DON'T HAVE THE HEALTH INSURANCE, UH, PROPERTY INSURANCE AND ALL THAT. AND THAT'S THE WHAT'S THAT BIG FUND? THE GENERAL GOVERNMENT FUND. THAT'S WHERE WE NINE WE ROLL A LOT OF THE BEEF COST INTO. WE JUST, WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH INFORMATION TO DO THAT. BUT AGAIN, THIS WAS JUST KIND OF OUR FIRST PRELIMINARY SHOT. JUST KIND OF EVERYBODY AND UH, WELL IT DOES, WE'VE GOT, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT A LOT OF, A LOT OF THINGS THAT WE'LL HAVE TO BE LOOKING AT. OF COURSE WE'VE NOT TALKED ABOUT REVENUES YET, BUT IT'S PROBABLY A LITTLE EARLY TO TALK ABOUT THAT AND SEE, WE SEE WHERE WE ARE ON TAXES AND UH, SOME OF THE OTHER DOLLARS THAT ARE OUT THERE, UH, UH, FOR THE END OF THE YEAR. YOU KNOW I MENTIONED ABOUT MAYBE PAYING OFF SOME OF THOSE SHORT TERM LOANS THAT WE HAVE OUT THIS YEAR'S BUDGET, YOU KNOW, IF WE HAVE THEM MAYBE AVAILABLE. GEORGE, CAN YOU RUN ME A REPORT ON THE STATS OF, UM, THE, UH, OUTSTANDING WARRANTS? IS THERE A WAY YOU CAN LET US KNOW HOW MANY OUTSTANDING WARRANTS CLASS C IN JP COURT? YEAH. YOU HAVE DATE IN KAMAN COUNTY, NOT OUTTA COUNTY COURT. WE DO. UM, WE CAN RUN YOU A CASE FILE REPORT THAT YOU CAN CONTRAST THE CASES FILED VERSUS [06:10:01] COLLECTION, UM, BY OFFICER. SO IT GIVES YOU GOOD, GOOD SENSE TO YOUR, UM, HOW MANY TICKETS. DOES, DOES, DOES IT UH, TELL YOU WHICH YEAR EVEN THIS CASE? YEAH, I MEAN OF COURSE THIS REPORT I'M TALKING ABOUT IS DIFFERENT. THIS IS, THIS IS BEFORE THIS GIVES YOU AN IDEA. TAX FLOW VERSUS CASE LAW. 10 TICKETS CAME IN AND YOU HAD 20, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? NUMBER FOR OFFICER. YEAH. SEE WHERE THEY BE INTERESTING TO KNOW WHAT YEARS AND WHERE THEY CAME FROM KIND OF IN, IN A YEAR PERIOD. BECAUSE YOU KNOW, IF THEY'RE SIX, SEVEN YEARS OLD, THOSE PEOPLE PROBABLY DON'T EVEN LIVE HERE. WELL WE FILE THOSE WITH OUR COLLECTION. SOMEBODY. YEAH. I MEAN THEY'RE NOT EVEN WASTE OF TIME. WE, WE FILED 'EM THERE AND ALSO ON, SO IF THEY RENEW THE REGISTRATION, THEY'LL BE FILED THAT WAY. SO THESE, THESE WARRANTS THAT THE CONSTABLE ARE UH, SAID THEY, THEY'RE BEHIND. WE ALREADY HANDLED THOSE THROUGH OUR COLLECTION. GET THEIR DRIVER LICENSE. THEY, IT MIGHT TAKE FOUR OR FIVE YEARS BUT THEY'LL STILL DO IT. YEAH. THEY'RE GONNA BASICALLY GO IN AND SAY I WANT REDO MY DRIVER'S LICENSE. WHAT? YOU KNOW, THEY WON'T EVEN KNOW THEY DON'T HAVE ONE THEY'RE WORKING ON. THEY SHOULD BE WORKING ALL NINE DAYS PAST DUE WORK. THE STATE STATE, I GUESS THE STATE STILL DOES, I DUNNO, YOU PROBABLY KNOW, BUT THE, YOU KNOW, IF YOU GET AN INSURANCE TICKET AND JUST GO PAY IT AND DON'T DO AN SR 22 OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, THEY AUTOMATICALLY REVOK A DRIVER'S LICENSE. THEY USED TO HAVE PEOPLE COME IN ALL THE TIME, PUT IT IN THE APPLICATION. I CONFUS CAN WORK CONFUS DRIVER'S LICENSE. OKAY, THAT'S GOOD. NO, GEORGE, REPEAT THAT. ALL THE WARRANTS GO LINE AND PURDUE. PURDUE, I KNOW ABOUT PURDUE, WE HAVEN'T BEEN INVOLVED WITH THEM, BUT TRADITIONALLY, YOU KNOW, THEIR ROLE IS TO PICK UP THOSE CLASS C CRIMINAL OFFENSES AND THEY CAN GO COLLECT THEM AND THEY GO TO OWN. OKAY. THEN WHAT ARE THE ONES THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT THAT THEY NEED TO, THEY SAY THEY'VE GOT LIKE A MILLION AND A HALF DOLLARS WORTH OF WARRANTS AND JUST ONE PERSON, ONE PERSON SAID THEY NEED EXTRA MEN CARS TO SERVE ALL THESE WARRANTS. THEY'RE WORK RIGHT NOW. WELL THAT'S WHAT I SAID. THAT'S WHY I'M ASKING YOU MAN, IN THE DATES IN WHERE THEY ARE AND WHAT YOU KNOW, BECAUSE I DON'T UNDERSTAND IF WE GOT THAT KIND OF WARRANTS OUT AND THEY'RE FRESH, WE WANT TO BE, WE WANT BE KNOCKING ON THE DOORS, BUT IF A GUY LIVES IN FORT WORTH, WE OBVIOUSLY DON'T WANT MESS, BUT WE WANT SOMEBODY ELSE TO GO MESS WITH COLLECTION OR JUST LET 'EM GET STOPPED SOMEWHERE. COLLECTION AGENCY AND THEY'RE DOING . SEE, I I JUST THINK THERE'S BEEN A MISCOMMUNICATION IN ALL THIS WARRANT. SO I I'VE HEARD IT TWO OR THREE TIMES SINCE I'VE BEEN HEARING ABOUT THESE MILLIONS OF DOLLARS OF WARRANTS. WELL I THINK SOMEBODY'S, SOMETHING'S NOT, YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? NOT. YEAH. THIS DOESN'T, DOESN'T YOU WORK THE WARRANT ROUNDUP DO AND WE COULD HAVE A MILLION AND A HALF, BUT IT MIGHT BE FROM 1990 NOW THAT ARE REALLY UNCOLLECTIBLE. WHICH WARRANTS ARE THEY EXACTLY TALKING ABOUT GEORGE, WHEN I FIRST CAME HERE AND WE HAD TO GO, YOU HAD TO RUN THE, A SPECIAL REPORT FOR THE OUTSIDE AUDITOR. HOW MUCH DID WE HAVE ON THE BOOKS THAT WERE LIKE DUE TO THE COUNTY? WASN'T IT IN THE MILLIONS OF DOLLARS REISSUE IT JUST MAKE, OKAY. I THOUGHT, I THOUGHT THAT'S WHAT I REMEMBER. THERE WERE, I MEAN, I MEAN EACH YEAR IF YOU HAVE, IF YOU JUST HAVE, YOU KNOW, $50,000 IN WARRANTS THAT THINK DALLAS COUNTY, THEY SAY THEY, AT THE END OF THE YEAR THEY HAD SOMETHING ABOUT THREE OR $4 MILLION OUT THAT YEAR THAT THEY COULDN'T COLLECT. DO YOU? AND EACH YEAR IT JUST ADDS UP. DO YOU REMEMBER THE NUMBER? THE NUMBER THAT I READ YOU YESTERDAY? MM-HMM. OKAY. WHAT I'M WANTING YOU TO UNDERSTAND IS THAT'S BECAUSE THERE'S 20 SOMETHING AT ONE TIME, MAYBE 17 MILLION OWED TO THIS COUNTY AND THE AUDITORS KEEP INCREASING A PERCENTAGE OF DOUBTFUL ACCOUNTS 'CAUSE IT'S NOT BEING COLLECTED. WELL, WE GOT MORE THAN 2 MILLION OWED TO US IT'S NET OF THE DOUBTFUL ACCOUNTS. OUR PROBLEM, OUR PROBLEM IS WE DON'T HAVE THE REVENUES BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THE BUSINESS COMING IN THE FRONT DOOR. RIGHT. WE DON'T HAVE THE CURRENT CITATION, BUT I CAN SHOW YOU THAT WITH THE CASE FILING. [06:15:01] SO THE ANSWER FOR THE CURRENT REVENUES, IT'S TOP LINE, BOTTOM LINE, YOU GOTTA HAVE THE TOP LINE TODAY. CURRENT REVENUES. MM-HMM YOU GOTTA HAVE CASE FILES AND WE CAN RUN YOUR CASE FILING REPORT BY OFFICERS FOR WHATEVER TIME PERIOD YOU WANT. IF YOU LIKE TO GRAPH IT OUT, WE CAN SHOW YOU THIS YEAR. YOU CAN PRINT THAT. RIGHT. SO GET THAT. OKAY. HE'LL PROBABLY GET THAT. YOU CAN SEE IT. I MEAN THAT'S, THAT'S ALL I'M, AND I CAN, YOU KNOW, PRIOR WE, WHEN WE WENT THROUGH THE EXERCISE ABOUT FOUR, FOUR YEARS AGO OF WE, WE LOOKED AT OUR COLLECTIONS RENEGOTIATED WITH , WHOEVER IT WAS, AND WE WENT THROUGH THE EXERCISE, WE GENERATED THE REPORT WITH PRETTY GRAPHS THAT SHOWED YOU FIVE YEARS. AND THE KEY IS CASE FILING. IT'S IF A BUSINESS ISN'T COME IN THE FRONT DOOR, YOU NOT RECALL. I THINK OCA ALSO DID THAT AND PROVIDED COUNTY AT 10 YEAR DRAFT. OR HOW ABOUT YOUR A AND B MISDEMEANORS? HMM. HOW ABOUT COLLECTING YOUR A'S AND B'S? WE'RE WORKING 'EM BUT YOU'RE STILL LESS THAN A FEE. DO THINK, DO YOU THINK THAT UM, THEY'RE, DID THE CONSTABLES INCLUDE HER WARRANTS AS AND B'S? NO. NO WET BECAUSE YEARS AGO WE WORKED THOSE TOO. WELL WE ALSO HAVE BAILS FROM THE COURT WORKING A YEAR. I'M JUST SAYING I THINK THAT THE RUST BROTHER, IT DOESN'T, YOU KNOW, THE NUMBERS DON'T COMPUTE ME. I DON'T EVEN THINK YOU COULD, YOU KNOW, I DON'T THINK THERE'S THAT MANY DEAD WARRANTS OUT THERE IN ONE YEAR OR TWO. I THINK THEY'RE STRETCHING A LONG TIME BACK. I THINK, I THINK THE LOW HANGING FRUIT, RIGHT. ARE THE PEOPLE DRIVING DOWN THE ROAD RIGHT NOW? STOP. YEAH. LIKE BIG. I'M STILL WAITING FOR THAT THOUGH. YOU'RE PAYING INTEREST ON SOON AS DRIVER GETS OUTTA JAIL, THEN HE DOWN DOWN COUNTY ROAD. SO WE NEED TO REVISIT CONSTABLE FORD THEN. MM-HMM . WELL, I MEAN WHAT WE NEED TO KNOW IS WHAT WE NEED TO KNOW. I MEAN, HE DIDN'T HAND US THE SHEET TO HAS HIGHER, HE DOES HAVE A PRECINCT, BUT AGAIN, PRECINCT TWO HAS, UH, MORE PEOPLE HAS 4,000. YOU WOULD THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, 35, 40,000 PEOPLE, WHATEVER WE HAVE, WE WOULD WRITE MORE CITATIONS AND HAVE MORE TICKETS, MORE WARRANTS AND ALL FOUR TOGETHER TYPE MOST PEOPLE IN THE CITY LIVING, I MEAN, WELL IT WOULDN'T MATTER. I MEAN IT JUST, IT STILL IN THE, IN THE AREA IF THEY A TICKET, IT IS UP TO THE MUNICIPALITY. BUT IT WOULD, BUT THEY'D STILL TURN IN A WARRANT AND THEY'D STILL BE POSSIBLE WITH YOU GO ARREST THEM. LAURA WAS GONNA SAY SOMETHING Y'ALL. WELL, WE WERE LOOKING AT THE NUMBERS THAT WERE SUBMITTED TO OCA FOR PRECINCT ONE, TWO, AND THREE JPS. AND WHEN YOU LOOK AT IT, JP I THINK WE WERE LOOKING AT IT TODAY. JP THREE HAS GOT THE MOST AMOUNT. IT WAS LIKE 40,000 OR 50,000 JP YOU KNOW, MARY CAME IN AT HALF OF THAT AND JP TWO CAME IN AT HALF OF THAT HALF. I MEAN JUST IT PRECINCT TWO IS THEY'RE NOT BRINGING THE BUSINESS IN THE DOOR FOR THEM TO DO THE TICKETS. AND WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT THE CONSTABLES AND, AND GOING TO LINEBARGER OR GOING TO PURDUE, I THINK THAT AS AN INDIVIDUAL JP CONSTABLE PROCEDURE BECAUSE JOHNNY, JOHNNY DUNNING FOR MAY HAVE HIS CONSTABLE TAKE THOSE WARRANTS AND GO WORK 'EM. WHEREAS MIKE SMITH MAY SAY, I'M GOING STRAIGHT TO THE LAW FIRM. I THINK WE ALL MET FOUR YEARS AGO. YES. AND THE I THE PLAN WAS AFTER 90 DAYS THE CONSTABLE WORKING, THE CONSTABLE'S WORKING AND MANY DAYS IT GOES TO THE COLLECTION. RIGHT. BUT BUT THEY'VE SWITCHED UP SOME THINGS SINCE THEN. YEAH. THAT'S WHAT WE ALL AGREED ON. YEAH. WELL WE'VE HAD CONSTABLE CHANGES TOO. JP CHANGES FOR THAT MATTER. AND WE PROBABLY SWITCH AND SWITCH THE PROCESS. I MEAN, IF, IF ONE, IF YOU GET A PROCESS THAT WORKS, Y'ALL LEAVE IT ALONE AND NOT WORRY ABOUT IT TOO MUCH. AND IF IT DOESN'T WORK, THEN YOU NEED TO CHANGE IT. YEAH. BUT YOU CAN, YOU CAN SEE HOW THE, THE CONSTABLE CHANGES WILL CHANGE EVERYTHING. THEY MAY WANT TO BE MORE AGGRESSIVE OR OR LESS AGGRESSIVE, BUT IF YOU DON'T BRING THE BUSINESS IN THE DOOR, IT DOESN'T MATTER. YOU, YOU HAVE TO HAVE THE TICKETS. AND IT'S NOT JUST THEM HIGHWAY PATROL, THEY'RE NOT. WELL YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. I MEAN, YOU'VE GOTTA HAVE THE TICKET TO COME INTO THE COURT TO GET THE MONEY. YEAH. BUT WE DON'T WANT TO BURN UP $5 MILLION TRYING TO COLLECT 2 MILLION. RIGHT. YOU KNOW, I MEAN I YOU DON'T THROW A, YOU KNOW, GOOD MONEY AT BAD, YOU KNOW, YOU JUST, YOU STOP WHERE IT STOPS. SO I MEAN, YOU KNOW, IF YOU GOT, IF YOU HIRE FOUR DEPUTIES AND START TRYING TO COLLECT A MILLION DOLLARS WORTH OF MORE, WELL IT SOUNDS LIKE WE NEED TO HAVE MONEY WITH ALL THE CONSTABLES. [06:20:01] YEAH, WELL, I MEAN GRAB THE GEORGE CAN PRODUCE FOR US, USE THE NUMBERS DAY. AND THAT'S THE OTHER THING. I DON'T WANT TO GET OUR CONSTABLES INTO TOO MANY CONSTABLES LIKE YOU HAVE OVER HERE IN DALLAS COUNTY. THEY HAVE THEIR OWN POLICE FORCE. WE DON'T NEED THAT. YEAH. WE'RE NOT HOUSTON, WE'RE NOT HARRIS COUNTY. WE DIDN'T NEED TO BE THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE. THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE NEEDS TO BE THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE. RIGHT. I MEAN, I'M SORRY, I ASSUME POLICE NEEDS CONSTABLE GOT A JOB. THAT'S WHAT THEY NEED TO DO. AND THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT GOT A JOB AND THEY NEED TO DO IT. THEY DON'T NEED TO SPEND TWO PEOPLE DOING THE SAME JOB. I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW. THAT'S, I MEAN THE HOSPITALS ALWAYS WROTE TICKETS. I DID. I WAS ONE THE NIGHT. YEAH, BUT I MEAN, YOU KNOW, THAT'S JUST WHAT IT IS. WHAT IT IS. YOU KNOW, YOU NEED TO, YOU KNOW, IF YOU WANT BE A SHERIFF, GONNA BE A SHERIFF. WELL I THINK A LOT OF THEIR TICKETS WERE WRITTEN BY THEIR RESERVE, YOU KNOW, ON WEEKEND REPORT WILL SHOW YOU THAT. SHOW YOU. WELL THAT'S FINE. I THINK WE'RE ALL PRETTY WELL BOOKED AFTER THE LAST COUPLE DAYS AND UH, WE, WE WE'RE GONNA NEED TO REISSUE THE, UH, THE AGENDA. WE SAID TUESDAY, IT'S A MONDAY ON THE AGENDA. SO I'LL GET CASSIE TO DO THAT. SO WE'LL READ. IT'D BE THE SAME STUFF. WE DON'T HAVE JUST A WHOLE LOT OF THEM AGENDA, BUT WE'LL GET WITH YOU MONDAY OR TOO. WE'LL BE MONDAY AT NINE 30. 9 39 39 30 30 YOU COME UP. BUT WE'RE GONNA BE DOWNSTAIRS NINE 30. I THINK WE'RE ALL TIRED. BUT ANYWAY, THAT'S KIND OF WHERE WE'RE, AND I PROMISE YOU WE'LL BE GETTING, GET WE BACK TOGETHER PRETTY SOON WHEN WE DO THE WORKSHOP. WE'LL COME BACK WITH SOME OF THIS OTHER STUFF TOO. IS THERE ANY OTHER WORKSHOP ITEM YOU MIGHT NEED? DATA. WELL, IT WOULD BE INTERESTING IF WE COULD GET THE DATA ON THIS CONSTABLE THING. WE'LL GET THAT. IF THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE YOU INFORMATION ON A-T-S-A-T-S THAT THAT'S THE SECRET CLOUD. I DON'T, I'M NOT THAT'S, I YOU DON'T HAVE A KEY TO THAT DOOR THAT DOES NOT, THAT DOES NOT CROSS OUR, OUR SOFT OKAY. WE DON'T RETAIN ANYTHING. I HAVE THE KEY TO THAT DOOR AND THE REPORTS ARE BEING READY TO GIVE TO YOU. THANK YOU. THAT'S SOMETHING ELSE WE NEED TO LOOK AT. UM, WE NEED TO BUDGET ABOUT 500,000 TO PUT AN ACCOUNT BECAUSE ACCORDING TO THAT CONTRACT, THAT'S WHAT COST US EVERY YEAR. THEY'RE NOT GONNA DO THAT AT THE END OF OUR TEAM. THEY'RE NOT GONNA DO THAT. WELL, IT'S WHAT IT SAYS IN THE CONTRACT. I UNDERSTAND THAT. I'M TELLING YOU THEY'RE NOT GONNA DO THAT. WELL IF YOU, THERE'S A LINE ITEM IN THE CONTRACT THAT SAYS THAT CONTRACT SUPERSEDES ANY VERBAL AGREEMENT. SO I'M JUST, I'M JUST SAYING THAT ALL I'M GOING BY IS WHAT'S IN WRITING. RIGHT. AND YOU KNOW, IF WE DON'T DO IT IN 10 YEARS, WE MAY HAVE A 5 MILLION HICKEY. I DON'T THINK THAT'S GONNA BE THE CASE, BUT, WELL, I HOPE TO GOD NOT ANYWAY. I MEAN, DO WE GUARANTEE ANYWAY WE GU IS THERE WAY, ANY WAY WE CAN GUARANTEE THAT I, YOU KNOW, I'M, I DON'T, I'M I'M NOT PREPARED TO TALK ABOUT THAT TODAY. WE CAN HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT AND I CAN GET THEM BACK DOWN. BUT, UH, ALL THIS, ALL THIS THING THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, THAT'S NOT GONNA HAPPEN. I, I'M JUST SURE. I'M JUST GOING BY WHAT'S IN I UNDERSTAND. I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. BUT ANYWAY, THAT'S, THAT'S MY, THAT'S MY TAKE ON THAT. SO THAT'S ONLY A BUDGET THING THAT, I MEAN, THAT IS A BUDGET THING THAT I, IT'S NOT HERE THAT I KNOW OF, BUT YOU KNOW VERY MUCH. I DIDN'T HEAR YOU SIR. THAT'S MOVE. MOTION TO ADJOURN. SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? I, I WENT BACK AND TOOK EVERY MONTH'S REPORT AND. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.