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ARE WE READY? EVERYBODY READY TO GO? OKAY.
WE'LL COME BACK FROM RECESS AT, UH, 1:00 PM AND CONVENE THE UH, AND THAT WOULD BE ITEM NUMBER 29.
WHICH ITEM TRANSFERS? I BELIEVE IT.
YOU, UH, CURRENTLY RECEIVED YOUR LINE ITEM TRANSFERS ALREADY.
DO YOU UH, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? NEED SOME EXPLANATIONS? ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? NO.
NOT I'LL MOTION TO, UH, NUMBER 30 IS WE DISCUSS AND CONSIDER CLAIM PAYMENT.
UH, YOUR CLAIMS PER PAYMENT ARE $841,840 9 CENTS.
UH, THE BIG TICKET ITEMS, UH, 43,000 ON THE INMATE EXPENSES, 32,000 ON 40,000 ON MATERIALS, 35,000 RECONSTRUCTION.
AND BEHALF THE, Y'ALL HAD A CHANCE LOOK OVER THE BILL.
ANY ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT COMMISSIONER ALLEN? HAVE A SECOND ALL MOTION AURN FAVOR A MOTION TO ENTER THE BUDGET WORKSHOP SESSION, YOUR HONOR? YES, MA'AM.
ALRIGHT, COMMISSIONER, UH, ROSA ASKED ME TO CONTACT THE OUTSIDE AUDITOR, ASKED HIM SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT A T CONTRACT AND I DID AND I GOT A REPLY, UH, KAREN THIS LETTER'S IN RESPONSE TO THE QUESTION REGARDING THE ACCOUNT BEING REQUIRED FROM THE COURT OF LIABILITY FOR FUTURE YEARS FOR THE CONTRACT WITH A TS.
WE HAVE REVIEWED THE CONTRACT AND THE CONTRACT AMENDMENT BETWEEN PALM COUNTY AND A TS AND UPON OUR REVIEW WE DETERMINED THAT OVER THE COURSE OF THE NORMAL OPERATIONS OF THIS CONTRACT, NO LIABILITY EXISTS.
FEES WERE NOT OWED TO A TS UNTIL THE CITATIONS ARE COLLECTED.
SO THE COLLECTION OF REVENUES FOR THE COUNTY IS THE DRIVER OF EXPENDITURES FOR A TS.
AND HE GOES ON AND TALKS ABOUT THE ADDRESSING OF THE CONTRACT AND IT SAYS THERE ARE OUTLINES FOR THE SUBSTANTIAL PAYMENTS TO BE MADE TO A TS IN THE INSTANCE OF A BREACH OF CONTRACT.
THESE PAYMENTS WOULD ONLY BE REQUIRED TO BE MADE BY THE COUNTY.
ANY NEW EVENT THAT THE COUNTY FAILS IN ANY MATERIAL WAGE AND PERFORM ITS OBLIGATION TO OUR KNOWLEDGE, THE COUNTY HAS NOT AND HAS NO INTENTION OF BREACHING THAT CONTRACT.
UM, YOUR OUTSIDE AUDIT FIRM IS HIRED TO COME IN AND AUDIT THE FINANCIALS OF THIS COUNTY.
ANY ADDITIONAL DUTIES THAT YOU MIGHT ASK OR REQUIRE THEM, THEY'RE GONNA CHARGE EXTRA.
AND I WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT UPFRONT.
THEY'RE NOT GOING DO THAT FREE LIKE THEY DID LAST YEAR.
HERE IS YOU A COPY OF THE LETTER FROM MR. JOHN MANNY.
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IS SOMEBODY GONNA TAKE UM, COMMISSIONER UP TO HIM OR SOMETHING? KELLY'S HERE.I JUST TALKED TO HER PHONE SO I'M GOING TO PUT THIS WITH HIS STACK OF STUFF.
AND, AND REALLY NOT TRYING TO BE A SMART LEC GROUP THING.
OUTSIDE AUDITORS ARE PROBABLY NOT THE CORRECT LEGAL COUNSEL TO SEEK ADVICE ON THE CONTRACT.
WELL IT'S UH, IT'S IN THE BUDGET.
AND I THINK COMMISSIONER ASK, HE ASKED YOU TO GET THAT INFORMATION FOR HIM.
I REALLY DON'T KNOW WHERE TO START ON REVIEWING BUDGET.
I DIDN'T WANNA POINT OUT AND UH, THIS IS STILL A WORKING IN PROGRESS AND WILL BE, I THINK WE'RE PLANNING ON BUDGET PLANNING BUDGET LATER, LATER THIS, BUT THE CHANGES, AND KAREN, YOU UH, MAY WANNA SIT DOWN HERE A LITTLE CLOSER IF YOU WOULD, BUT I THINK THE CHANGES THAT WE TALKED ABOUT THE OTHER DAY HAVE BEEN INCORPORATED INTO THE BUDGET AND YOU TURN OVER TO PAGE, WE DO HAVE A CONTINGENCY.
SO THE EXPANSION THAT WE MADE THE OTHER DAY, INCLUDING THE, UH, INCREASED SALARIES THAT WERE, UH, ARE INCLUDED IN THE BUDGET.
AND AGAIN, THERE'S STILL SOME THINGS THAT NEED TO BE CLEANED UP.
UH, BUT THERE IS A CONTINGENCY, IF YOU LOOK DOWN ON PAGE 18, BOTTOM LINE WE'RE GOING INTO, IN OTHER WORDS, THAT'S MONEY THAT SUB, BUT THAT WAS AND COUNTER THING.
IT DOES HAVE THE PER INCREASE IN ALSO HAS THE, FOR COMMUNICATIONS, YOUR BUDGETS, Y'ALL HAD CHANGED, RIGHT? Y'ALL HAD CHANGED DIFFERENT POSITIONS, ADDED SOME POSITIONS.
SO I DIDN'T WANT YOU TO THINK I HAD SHARP ALL ANY OF YOUR EMPLOYEES 'CAUSE THAT WAS NOT MY INTENTION.
IF YOU WANNA CHANGE SOMETHING YOU DID NOT GIVE YOURSELF OR THE ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANT A RAISE WHEN I INCLUDED 1200 AND THE REST OF OUR EMPLOYEES, UH, WE CAN ASSIGN THE PAY ACCORDING TO THEIR SKILLS.
NOT NEED ONE PRECINCT TO, WELL THE OTHER THING, 63,
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UH, THIS IS THE TOTAL ROAD AND BRIDGE BUDGET, UH, PROPOSAL FOR THIS YEAR.AND THIS INCLUDES ALL THE, UH, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOING UP ABOUT OVER 1 CENT ON 1.20 CENTS OR 1.1 BRIDGE.
BUT I WANT YOU TO NOTICE THAT WE HAD ALL OF THAT TOGETHER AND WHAT WE BUDGETED THIS YEAR, UH, AT THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR WAS 7,000,004 SEVEN.
AND SO YOU'VE GOT ACTUALLY EIGHT FOUR.
SO YOU'VE GOT ONE ADDITIONAL FUNDING FROM ALL THE VARIOUS SOURCES HAVE, BUT YOU SEE HOW IT'S TRANSFERRED, UH, TO THE PRECINCTS.
FOR EXAMPLE, UH, PRECINCT ONE, UH, IS SCHEDULED TO RECEIVE, JUST DOESN'T CHANGE.
OFFICE SCHEDULED TO RECEIVE 2,000,001 19, UH, THIS YEAR.
THIS IS SCHEDULED RECEIVE 1,000,008.
THIS IS IT MY UNDERSTANDING THE, UH, THOSE PROCEEDINGS WERE SET YEARS AGO.
AND I DUNNO, JUST SO BASED ON JUST SOME, THAT'S WHERE WE MATTER OF REVENUE THAT PEOPLE WERE PAYING IN OUR PRECINCT.
UM, AND PERCENTAGE OUT THAT WAY BECAUSE IF YOU TAKE ALL THE PERCENTAGE YOU CAN'T PAY TAX TRAFFIC AREA AND PUT IT OUT THE COUNTY, YOU GONNA GET IN TROUBLE.
$8 MILLION FOR 400 PEOPLE VERSUS A HUNDRED THOUSAND HAVE TO BE CAREFUL HAPPEN.
NEXT THING IT'S GONNA CHANGE IN SHAPE.
DIDN'T ANYWAY, I DIDN'T POINT THAT OUT.
YEAH, IT'S JUST, BUT THE GOOD NEWS IS, UH, 6, 9 6 AND SO NEXT YEAR, AND THIS IS UM, THROUGH JULY 21ST.
SO WE HAVE OFFICE IN SEPTEMBER, SO RECEIVE SOME MORE REVENUE AND DISSE.
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THIS FUND 20 IS ONLY AN OUT FROM, IT'S ALL THE REVENUES LIKE FROM CAR REGISTRATIONS, THE LATERAL ROAD, ALL THAT AND THE TAX MONEY DELINQUENT.AND YOU GO BY THAT PERCENTAGE TO DISPERSE IT BETWEEN THE FOUR PRECINCTS.
OTHER THING I PAGE 60, WE HAD A DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT LAST ITEM, WANTED TO, NOW AT THE SAME TIME I, THAT WE GOT FROM THE CREDITS FROM, I SENT A, WE DID YEAR.
SO THAT JUMPED UP TO A HUGE AMOUNT OF 65,000.
AND ONE OF Y'ALL DID SOME STUDY ON THAT.
AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT CAN BE USED FOR ACADEMIC DEVELOPMENT AS PART OF, SO YOU KIND OF TELL US WHAT YOU, YOU REMEMBER I DIDN'T THAT YEAH, YOU CAN REALLY TELL ME ABOUT THAT ONE, BUT I BRING THE FOLDER WITH ME.
IS THERE SOMETHING SPECIFIC THAT, WELL, I MEAN WE CAN USE THE MONEY IF WE DECIDED TO LIKE THIS PROJECT.
WE, WE LOOKED INTO IT AND UM, I BELIEVE THAT YOU CAN USE IT FOR THAT.
IT'LL UM, LINE SIX, IT'LL SHOW YOU WHERE WE'VE ALREADY GOT 68.
I DIDN'T ADD ANYTHING INTO THE BUDGET BECAUSE THAT WAS KIND OF SPORADIC.
SO IT'S KIND NICE NOT TO BUDGET FOR WELL I GUESS THE QUESTION I HAVE YOU, US THIS IS, DO WE, WELL, FIRST QUESTION NEED TO ASK IS HOW MUCH DO WE, BECAUSE THE CHILDREN'S ADVOCACY CENTER IS SPECIFICALLY, WE GAVE THEM LAST YEAR.
SO THE QUESTION I GUESS I I HAD IS, UH, DO WE TAKE THIS 65,000, GO AHEAD AND DISTRIBUTE WHAT WE WANT, WHATEVER WE DETERMINE TO GIVE TO THE CHILDREN'S AND THEN COME BACK AND EITHER REIMBURSE THE DIFFERENT FUND OR FUND OR THE IS FUND OUTTA THAT 65,000 WE'VE ALREADY PAID, IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, THE PROJECT VENUS OR WE SET THAT ASIDE AND CARRIED OVER NEXT YEAR TO TAKE SOME OF THE PRESSURE OFF OF THESE FUNDS.
SO YOU, YOU FOLLOW WHAT I'M SAYING? YOU'RE CERTAINLY WELCOME TO SET IT ASIDE LIKE THAT.
I THINK I LOOKED AT SOME DIFFERENT COUNTIES AND HOW THEY HAD DEALT WITH THE FUND.
THEY ACTUALLY JUST CREATED A SEPARATE FUND AND NAMED IT UNDERNEATH STATUTE THAT IT FALLS UNDER DOWN AND THEN THEY WOULD LEAVE FUNDS IN THERE BECAUSE MOST OF THEM USE IT FOR THEIR CHILDREN'S ADVOCACY CENTERS.
AND I DON'T KNOW WHY IT'S NOT.
I MEAN IT'S JUST NOT A BUDGETED ITEM THAT PEOPLE HAVE COUNTIES I GUESS.
AND SO IT COMES OUT THIS FUND, WELL IT'S THE FIRST YEAR WE APPLY FOR YEARS.
FIRST YEAR, IF I REMEMBER RIGHT, WE GOT LIKE THREE 50 SOMETHING VERY SMALL AMOUNT AND WE WELL WORTH THE EFFORT GOING BACK.
WELL THEN NEXT YEAR, LAST YEAR WE GOT 65 DOWN.
SO WELL WHY IT DOESN'T SHOW THERE WHERE 165 IS MY NEXT QUESTION IS BECAUSE WE DIDN'T KEEP IT AS REVENUE AND WE GOT CHECKS AGAINST THAT AND ZEROED IT OUT.
SO YOU, YOU COULD BE CARRIED OVER YOU THINK TO ANOTHER BUDGET YEAR.
YOU DON'T HAVE TO SPEND EVERYTHING OUT THAT, OR YOU COULD REDUCE YOUR LEASE OR YOU COULD COME BACK NEXT YEAR DECIDE, WELL, WE GET ANOTHER 55 NEXT YEAR
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PROBABLY, PROBABLY AN ITEM SET SO ALL OF Y'ALL KNOW IT'S THERE AND LINE.BUT I DO THINK WE GO AND DISTRIBUTE WHERE TO THE CHILDREN WE KNOW, KNOW WELL EARLY I TALKED WITH HER ABOUT IT AND I IS SHE COMING OVER? I DON'T THINK SHE'S OKAY THERE, THERE ARE NEEDS THEY HAVE STILL, I, YOU KNOW WHAT IF, IF OUR TIMELINE'S A LITTLE BIT MORE EXTENDED, I THINK THAT WE SHOULD INVITE 'EM IN TO KIND OF DISCUSS IT WITH US BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW SPECIFICALLY BUT I, I'VE BEEN A PART OF THEIR MULTIDISCIPLINARY TASK MEETINGS THAT THEY HAVE EVERY MONTH AND IT SEEMS LIKE THEY'RE TRYING TO WORK THROUGH A BUNCH OF DIFFERENT THINGS AND THEY HAVE, THEY'RE REALLY HIGH TECH ONE, THEY 35,000.
WELL YOU SHOULD TAKE A TOUR OF OUR FACILITY.
UM, NO WORK ON I THINK SO CAMERA SYSTEM WE DECISION THINK WELL I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE'RE AWARE OF IT.
I THINK IT WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA COUNTY TO DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS LIKE THAT PRESENTATION.
SO YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHY MY QUESTION WAS WHAT ARE THEIR NEEDS? NOT WHAT THEY WANT.
WHO IS THAT? WHAT ARE THEIR NEEDS? COUPLE YEARS AGO YOU WERE ASKING HIM THAT WE SENT THEM A DONATION.
AND THAT'S BOARD THEIR THEIR THEIR MEMBERSHIP DROP AS WELL.
THAT'S THING THEY'RE WORKING ON.
DO YOU, DOES THE COURT WANT US TO REACH OUT TO THEM AND IF WE CAN GET LIKE A PROPOSAL.
THAT'D BE NOT THEY WANT A LOT.
DON'T TELL ME WHAT YEAH, THEN WE TO SCRAPE UP.
ALRIGHT, I KNOW WE'VE GOT SOME FOLKS THAT ARE HERE WITH US TODAY THAT UP I THINK YOU MENTIONED YOU HAD SOME THINGS YOU WANTED TO TALK ABOUT.
UM, OKAY, I WANTED TO JUST, UH, I WASN'T HERE LAST WEEK WHEN YOU TALKED ABOUT EA POSITION AND I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU MAY HAVE DECIDED THAT THERE UH, IS NOT AN PLAN IN THE BUDGET FOR THAT.
BUT I WOULD LIKE TO, UH, GET A CHANCE TO PERSONALLY GO ONE MORE TIME WHY I THINK WE NEED THIS POSITION.
I WOULD LIKE TO STATE FIRST OF ALL THAT I'M CLEAR THAT WHATEVER YOU DECIDE IS WHAT HAPPENS.
I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU, UH, MAKE A CALL.
UH, WHAT I DON'T KNOW FOR SURE IS IF YOU UNDERSTAND HOW MUCH IS INVOLVED IN THE ELECTIONS DEPARTMENT.
AND THE REASON WHY I'M ASKING FOR A DA UH, THE AMOUNT OF WORK THAT IS DONE IN THERE YEAR ROUND IS IS LIKE, IS A FULL-TIME JOB AND I BROUGHT IT IN, I BRING UP THE LAWS, THE ELECTION LAWS ARE ONE OF THOSE BIG MINORS, YOU KNOW, JUST FOR ELECTIONS.
SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT THAT PLUS THE LAWS WERE AUTO AND ALL THE TAX LAWS, YOU KNOW, I, I WOULD LIKE TO BE THE MOST FOCUSED ON, ON TAXES, BUT I, I HAVE TO IS READ BY FOCUS, WHICH I CAN DO AND I HAVE TO DO IT.
BUT THE UH, ACTIVITIES AND ELECTIONS AS BIG AS WE ARE GETTING, ARE GROWING TO THE POINT WHERE I THINK THAT WE NEED A SEPARATE ELECTIONS ADMINISTRATOR.
THERE'S A LOT OF WORK IN THERE THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE AROUND.
AND WHILE I'M GOING BACK AND FORTH, UH, WITH, WITH THE OFFICE, MAKING SURE THINGS ARE GETTING DONE, YOU KNOW, I CAN HANDLE IT.
BUT HAVING SOMEBODY BACK THERE, WHICH IS WHY WE TERESA BACK THERE AND THERESA'S NOT ADVOCATED HER ROLE AS DEPUTY.
SHE IS SIMPLY DOING THAT ON TOP OF WHAT SHE'S DOING IN ELECTIONS.
SHE'S DOING ABOUT 60% OF HER DEPUTY WORK WHILE SHE'S BACK THERE.
PLUS NIKKI'S SORT OF PICKING UP THE OTHER 40% IN THE TAX AREA.
UH, SO THERE'S A LOT THAT GOES ON IN TERMS OF FINDING EVERY PENNY IN, IN THE, IN THE ACCOUNTING DEPARTMENT TO FOLLOW THE NEW LAWS THAT COME IN ALL THE TIME CONSTANTLY LAWS IN, IN AUTO AND IN EVERY OTHER YEAR
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IN UM, TAXES.BUT JUST LIKE YOU CONSIDER THAT SCIENCE COUNTY THAT WE ARE THE AMOUNT OF WORK THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE NOW LAST YEAR WE HAD LIKE 7,000 BALLOTS BY MAIL AND YOU DON'T GO THROUGH ALL THOSE MAN, AND I APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT YOU GAVE US LAST YEAR.
SO I'M HAPPY WITH THE STAFFING IN THERE OTHER THAN INSTEAD OF TAKING MY TO DO THAT WORK EARLIER, HAVE SOMEBODY FULLTIME DEDICATED THAT.
BECAUSE I UNDERSTAND HEARING ABOUT LAST WEEK YOU DID PUT IN YOUR BUDGET FOR THAT.
I HAD TWO BUDGETS FOR THAT WERE UM, BEFORE 94 90, UH, I HAD TWO.
ONE WAS WITH THE A AND ONE WAS WITHOUT 31 THAT SHOW ABOUT 60,000 INCREASE.
BUT THAT'S PART PART WHERE RIGHT, AND THAT'S BECAUSE I, AND THAT'S ON INCREASE OVERALL IN THE BUDGET THAT IS JUST COMING OUTTA IT BUDGET.
IT SAID WE'LL KEEP THE SOFTWARE, WE'D RATHER START PUTTING THE HARDWARE BACK IN YOUR BUDGET.
SO THAT IS NOT A RAISE, JUST A WASH.
SO THIS WOULD BE IF IF YOU'RE I'M JUST GUESSING THAT BECAUSE I MOST MAINTENANCE TRAINING YEAH, YOU WOULD INCREASE AREA.
THE TRAINING IS IS PRETTY WELL TAKEN CARE OF NOW.
JIM, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? I'D LIKE, I'D LIKE FOR YOU TO ALSO, AND I KNOW THESE ARE TWO DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS, BUT I'D LIKE FOR YOU TO LOOK AT PAGE 19, WHICH IS THE VOTER REGISTRATION DEPARTMENT.
THEY HAVE TO BE, THEY CANNOT BE COMBINED.
IS THAT A VOTER REGISTRATION IS SEPARATE FROM ELECTIONS.
IF YOU HAVE AN EA THEN THE VOTER REGISTRATION VOTER REGISTRAR GOES DUTIES GO WITH AN EA.
YOU DON'T THEN IT SAYS THE TEXAS YES, I'M SORRY.
THE BIG DIFFERENCE IS THE OFFICE SUPPLIES.
YEAH, THE OFFICE SUPPLIES REALLY INCREASED FOR NOTHING.
IT'S EVERY TWO YEARS WE HAVE TO MAIL OUT NEW CARDS AND WE HAVE TO PAY TO HAVE THOSE CARDS MADE.
SOMETIMES
I KNOW IN EARLY VOTING WE HAVE FEWER POLLING PLACES WHEN THE GENERAL COMES AND WE DO THE SAME THING, WE NOT DO THAT.
WELL, I'M CERTAINLY HOPING SO BECAUSE THIS PARTICULAR ELECTION WILL BE VERY SMALL, ONE OR TWO AMENDMENT ONE OR TWO PLACES.
SO, UH, WE'VE ALREADY GOT SOMETHING PROPOSED WE WANT ON THE NEXT AGENDA TO CUT IT DOWN TO 1230 ON NOVEMBER ELECTION.
THAT MANY VOTING ON THE PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION, WE'LL PROBABLY NEED EVERYONE THAT IS IN THE POINTING AREA.
WE'VE GOT AT LEAST TWO AREAS IN INFORMING THAT WE CAN'T FIND ELECTION BECAUSE ALL HOUSING AND A
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VOTE.ARE THERE ANY VACANT BUILDING? IT HAS TO BE WITHIN COORDINATE OF THIS? NO, ALL HOUSING.
I'M MOST CURIOUS ABOUT THIS REGISTRATION.
DID THEY SEND YOU THE CARDS? WE HAVE TO ORDER THEM.
BUT THEY DON'T PAY FOR WHAT ABOUT THE WELL, SOMETIMES WE CAN ASK FOR THAT BACK BECAUSE SOMETIMES THEY JUST, SO I'LL HAVE TO CHECK TO SEE WHAT THE BOOT IS THIS YEAR.
WELL IT'S NEVER, IT'S NEVER BEEN THAT HIGH.
WELL WE OF THE REASON IT WASN'T BECAUSE DEPARTMENT HAD IT BROKE OUT IN YEARS WANT IN THE HERE IT'S JUST THE SAME COST ONLY.
IT'S AT LEAST SEE WELL WE DID PUT POST IN THAT.
AND AND THAT NORMALLY USUALLY OUT.
THE OTHER QUESTIONS, UH, WE'VE DISCUSSED THIS DID A GOOD JOB THE OTHER DAY.
SO, UH, ANY ANYBODY WANNA MAKE ANY CHANGES BASED ON THIS INFORMATION THAT WE GOT JUST DOWN THE ROAD? IF WE UH, WOULD BE ONE ADDED ONE ADDED? DO YOU HAVE SPACE? WELL I YOU, THAT SPACE POSITION FOR SOMEONE IS THAT IF THAT WERE TO HAPPEN THEN, THEN THAT WOULD DID THAT.
WE HAD ON, IN ON 12 OR 13 COUNTIES.
IF COURT DECIDED TO DO THAT, WE COULD HAVE COMBINED THESE TWO DEPARTMENTS.
YOU WOULD HAVE TO IN THAT POINT.
SO WOULD YOU STILL NEED THE SAME PERSONNEL, NEED THE ADDITIONAL PERSONALITY IF YOU COMBINE THE DEPART, JUST THE EA.
YOU STILL ONE ADMINISTRATOR, BUT BY DOING IT SOMEBODY, RIGHT? YEAH.
WELL AND THEN IT WOULDN'T, WE WOULDN'T BE ANYBODY IN THIS POSITION.
SHE'D BE GETTING POSITION WOULD BE, AND IT WOULD BE ONE LOCATION WHERE EVERYBODY GO TO THE REGISTRATION, A HEADQUARTER AND THAT PERSON WOULD BE PERSON.
YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT ADDING UH, WOULD YOU BROUGHT IN THAT MAYBE HAVE SOMEBODY NOT WITHOUT GOING INTO SPECIFIC YOU TALKING ABOUT POSITION? NO, BY THE EA.
SO WHAT KIND OF SALARY DID WE TALK ABOUT? WELL, 45.
I WAS, I'M GUESSING BECAUSE I WHAT YOU GUYS? FIVE 5,000 VEHICLE.
BECAUSE I DUNNO HOW HOW YOU WOULD WANNA DO IT.
KNOW LARGER COUNTIES, THEY PAID 40 TAX ADMINISTRATOR, IT'S 50,000 THAT WORKS FOR THEM.
AND THEN, UM, SO YOUR PAYS ARE HIGHER SO WE HAVE MORE AND AS PART OF THAT YOU WOULD YES,
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I, AND I THINK WE'RE TRYING TO CREATE A VEHICLE THAT WOULD BE KEPT HERE ON THIS PARKING LOT.WELL WE'RE JUST, WE NEED TO HERE FRONT SO THAT GIVES US A LITTLE MORE, MORE INFORMATION LIKE HOMEWORK ON IF YOU CAN FIND ANYTHING.
UH, JUDGE, WE ALL UP ONE GROUP OR MAY BE A, WHICH DO THAT UNDER SECTION.
ALRIGHT, ALL THE FOLKS THAT ARE HERE THAT WANT TALK ABOUT THE EVERY, YOU'RE HERE TO TALK ABOUT THE, WHAT WE'RE DOING, WHY Y'ALL KIND OF GET UP HERE.
SO WE DON'T KNOW, WE GOT ALL THE JP ALL EXCEPT JUDGE SMITH.
HE, HE WAS OUT LAST WEEK AND HE PERSONNEL CONFIDENTIALITY.
SO, UH, THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING HERE AND I KNOW ALL THREE, WE'RE HERE FOR TWO THINGS.
LET'S TALK ABOUT MEDICAL EXAMINER.
JUDGE, I DID NOT ONE OF THESE BECAUSE I EMAILED HAVE THIS ONE TO FIX ME TO SEND SOME INFORMATION ABOUT WHAT WE IN THE, I BROUGHT MY BIG BOOK.
I'M JUST GOING GIVE YOU COPY OF THE, OF CHAPTER.
WE KILLED A LOT OF TREES HERE THEY HAD.
AND WHILE THIS IS STILL IN THE LITTLE BIT OF THE INVESTIGATIVE, UM, WE WANTED TO BRING IT UP BECAUSE IT IS, IT IS BOTH.
AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT I UNDERSTAND THAT, UH, THE COURT JPS, UH, IN PREVIOUS YEARS HAVE HAVE BEEN TRYING TO, UM, ACCOMPLISH.
AND UH, WE'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH THAT.
AGAIN, IT'S NOT, UM, IT'S NOT ONLY JUST WHO, WHO PERFORMS SOME OF OUR AUTOPSIES AND, AND WE ARE NOT FROM ANY WAY.
UH, ALL OF THEM SHOULD GO ANYWHERE ANYMORE.
WE WOULD LIKE AN OPTION TO SEND CERTAIN THAT THE COUNTY IS RESPONSIBLE FOR PAYING.
UM, THAT I'M GONNA READ YOU ARTICLE 49 POINT 10 AND I AND JUDGE CRO AND I, UH, DON'T THINK THAT THIS IS GENDERLY CORRECT, BUT THIS IS THE WAY IT'S RIGHT NOW
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CORRECTLY AT HIS DISCRETION.SO GUESS THAT MEANS, THAT MEANS AND NOT US, UH, A JUSTICE OF THE PEACE MAY OBTAIN THE OPINION OF A COUNTY HEALTH OFFICER OR A POSITION CONCERNING THE NECESSITY OF OBTAINING AN AUTOPSY IN ORDER TO DETERMINE NATURE CAUSE OF DEATH.
AND I REALLY LIKE SECTION, UH, SECTION B BECAUSE IT SAYS, AND I ALWAYS LIKE FOR ME TO BE ABLE TO DECIDE SOMETHING.
THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT OF THE COUNTY SHALL PAY A REASONABLE FEE FOR CONSULTATION BY JUSTICE UNDER A OF THIS ARTICLE.
AND IT GOES FURTHER TO SAY THAT THE UH, FAIR DISCRE THE JUSTICE'S DISCRETION SHALL DIRECT THE POSITION TO PERFORM AN AUTOPSY OR CERTIFY THAT NO AUTOPSY IS NECESSARY.
UH, ANY HIGHLIGHT EVERYBODY'S BECAUSE MY HIGHLIGHTER WENT OUT.
BUT THEN IT GOES DOWN AGAIN, UH, IN SECTION E THAT SAYS A JUST OFFICIAL ORDER, AN AUTOPSY PERFORMED ON A BODY.
IF THE JUSTICE DETERMINES THAT AN AUTOPSY IS NECESSARY TO DETERMINE OR CONFIRM AN ACTUAL CAUSE OF DEATH, A CHILD YOUNGER THAN SIX.
UM, AND THERE ARE SOME, SOME DUTIES UNDER THAT, UM, DIRECTED TO DO SO BY THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY.
IF THERE IS NO DISTRICT ATTORNEY, THE COUNTY ATTORNEY, A JUSTICE OF PEACE SHALL REQUEST A POSITION TO PERFORM THE AUTOPSY.
THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT SHALL ONCE AGAIN SHALL PAY A REASONABLE FEE TO, TO A POSITION PERFORMING THE AUTOPSY ON THE ORDER OF A JUSTICE OF IF A IS ASSESSED.
AND I ANY THAT'S NEVER BEEN ASSESSED.
AND THEN IT ALSO SAYS THAT THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT SHALL PAY A REASONABLE FEE FOR THE TRANSPORTATION OF A BOND, FOR AN AUTOPSY HAS ORDER THE BODY TO BE TRANSPORTED TO THE PLACE.
SO THAT JUST KIND OF GIVES YOU, I DIDN'T RUN THE WHOLE THING THAT I CERTAINLY, UM, WHAT WHAT WE HAVE RUN INTO IN SOME INSTANCES WITH REGARD TO TRANSPORTATION IS THAT TWO OR THREE IN THE MORNING WE'RE OUT THERE AND WE'RE CALLING THREE OR FOUR FUNERAL HOMES TRYING TO FIND SOMEONE THAT WILL SAY TAKING DOUBT.
UH, WE, WE PROPOSE AN ALTERNATIVE TO ADD A NOT TAKE AWAY FROM ANY OF THE LOCAL FUNERAL.
AND BY THE WAY, AND ALL, YOU KNOW, THINGS, I PERSONALLY MET AND TALKED WITH A LOCAL FUNERAL DIRECTOR AND HE CERTAINLY ASSURED ME THAT HES GLOBAL HIMSELF.
AND, UM, HE ALSO REFERS AND HAD TALKED WITH ME ABOUT AMERICAN FORENSIC.
HE REFERS HIS, UH, FAMILIES IF THEY WANT A PRIVATE OFFICER TO AMERICAN SPEAK.
SO HE AND I HAD A CONVERSATION ON FRIDAY.
HE UNDERSTANDS THAT WE, THAT WE IN NO WAY ARE TRYING TO SAY WE WANT TO EXCLUSIVELY USE ANYONE, BUT WE WOULD RATHER AT TWO OR THREE IN THE MORNING NOT BE MAKING FOUR OR FIVE PHONE CALLS TRYING TO ADDRESS SOMEBODY BED TO THE UM, AND SO GLOBAL, AND I GAVE YOU A COPY OF WHAT JUDGE ASHCROFT ACTUALLY IS THE ONE THAT TALKED, UM, PATTERS AND THEY SENT US A SHEET THAT IT SHOULD BE YES.
AND I HAD, I DUNNO IF YOU MADE COPY, BUT I HAD A FOLLOW UP.
I JUST MADE SURE THEY ARE OPEN 24 7 365, INCLUDING HOLIDAYS.
THEY STAFF HEAVIER DURING CHRISTMAS AND NEW YEAR'S.
UH, AND JUST IN CASE THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S MORE ACTIVITY OF THAT NATURE.
UM, AND THIS, THIS IS NOT JUST A ONE ISOLATED INSTANCE.
ALL FOUR OF US WILL HAVE PROBLEMS. AND I BELIEVE THAT I SHARED WITH JUDGE WOOD, I WAS GONNA MINE ONE, UH, MORNING, EIGHT 30 MORNING, I HAD A 16-YEAR-OLD SUICIDE IN THE MORNING.
AND FOR TWO HOURS, NO FUNERAL HOME WOULD RESPOND.
THEY SAID WE COULDN'T COME, THEY COULDN'T COME.
IT WAS ADAY MORNING I A TUESDAY OR WEDNESDAY.
I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND IT WOULD BE DIFFERENT IF IT WAS LIKE A SATURDAY AFTERNOON OR TWO O'CLOCK.
THIS WAS IN THE MORNING AT EIGHT 30.
SO WE WERE ABLE TO FIND SOMEONE.
BUT THAT, THAT GIRLS, BOBBY STAYED THERE FOR TWO AND A HALF HOURS AND THE PARENTS WERE WAITING IN
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THE GARAGE.WHEN WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH THESE FAMILIES, UH, WE HAVE TO EXPLAIN TO THEM, YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT'S GOING ON? YOU DON'T WANNA LEAVE 'EM IN THE DARK, UH, BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO BE CONSCIOUS OF WHAT YOU'RE GOING THROUGH AND DEAL WITH THEIR, THEIR PAIN AND THEIR GRIEF.
BUT YOU ALSO HAVE TO DO A JOB AND, YOU KNOW, AND THE POLICE ARE WAITING AND, AND, AND TIMES OF THE ESSENCE SOMETIMES WHEN YOU HAVE A SITUATION.
BUT ALL OF THE JPS HAVE HAD THAT PROBLEM.
AND WE DON'T KNOW IF IT'S JUST, IT'S JUST A FLUKE.
BUT IT IS, IT IS HAPPENING AND IT'S HAPPENED MORE THAN ONCE AND IT'S HAPPENED TO ALL FOUR OF US.
SO WE WON'T, WE, WE THINK WE SHOULD HAVE AN OPTION.
AND ON THE, UM, THAT TOO, AMERICAN FORENSICS THAT DOES AUTOPSIES, THEY ALSO DO PRIVATE AUTOPSIES.
UM, BUT WHAT, WHAT WE WOULD, WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO DO IS TO BE ABLE TO UTILIZE THEM ON THOSE THAT HOMICIDE.
WE INVITE ANYBODY TO COME OUT OUR PLACE AT THE, THE, I'LL BE HAPPY TO CALL YOU WHEN I GET CALLED AND WHAT WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH, RIGHT CHIEFS, YOU DO HAVE FAMILIES AND FAMILIES ARE UPSET AND THERE'S, THERE'S QUESTIONS, ESPECIALLY IF IT'S AN UNEXPLAINED DEATH.
UM, EVEN WHEN IT'S A HEART ATTACK.
AND WE KNOW THAT, THAT A LOT OF TIMES OUR DEATHS ARE HEART ATTACKS WHEN WE'RE OUT THERE.
UM, THESE FAMILIES NEED ANSWERS.
THE THING THAT WE HAVE RUN INTO ALSO IS THAT THE DALLAS MEDICAL EXAMINER PERFORMS AUTOPSIES FOR THE RAY OF COUNTIES.
UM, IT IS NOW TAKING ME ABOUT FOUR MONTHS TO GET TOXICOLOGY REPORTS.
AND, AND DURING THIS TIME, THESE FAMILIES ARE NOT ABLE TO APPLY FOR ANY LIFE INSURANCE BENEFITS.
NOT LONG AGO, JUDGE
BUT WE SENT HIM FOR AN AUTOPSY.
HER CLERK'S SISTER REALLY NEEDED THOSE FINES AND WE'RE NOT ABLE FOR FOUR MONTHS TO APPLY FOR.
AND IT KIND OF PUT HER IN RECESSIVE CIRCUMSTANCES.
THE PROBLEM HERE IS THAT THOSE PHONE CALLS COME TO US.
WHY CAN'T WE GIVE THAT? WHERE IS, WHAT CAN, CAN YOU DO ANYTHING THAT, THAT AMERICAN FORENSICS TELLS ME THAT THEY GUARANTEE THAT THEY WOULD GET, COULD GET THOSE RESULTS BACK TO US WITHIN 30 TO 45 DAYS AS OPPOSED TO THE
SO WE KNOW IT WAS A HOMICIDE, BUT THERE'S NO KNOW THAT AUTOPSY WE RELY ON, ON THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT A LOT THERE.
UM, THERE'S ONES THAT I HAVE SENT FOR AUTOPSY BECAUSE THEY ASKED ME TO THAT I DIDN'T REALLY FIT, THOUGHT FIT THE CRITERIA.
BUT WE HAVE ALL DONE THEM BECAUSE ONE OF REQUEST IT BECAUSE ONE OF YOUR OFFICERS HAS REQUEST.
AND I HOPE THAT YOU KNOW THAT THE FOUR OF US ARE TO KNOW WHICH ONE NEEDS TO GO TO DALLAS AND WHICH MIGHT NOT BE TEXAS.
UM, AND SINCE, SINCE THE STATE OF TEXAS HAS GIVEN US THE DISCRETION, OUR DISCRETION TO DO IT, WE WOULD HOPE THAT YOU WOULD LOOK AT AND WAY I READ IT, YOU HAVE TO PAY THE BILL IF IT COMES IN.
BUT WE, WE GIVE, WANNA AGREE IS THAT BEFORE WE ALSO WANNA GIVE YOU AN OPTION, JUST SAVE SOME MONEY FOR THE COUNTY AND THE TAXPAYERS BECAUSE THIS NOT EVERY, I MEAN WE, I MEAN, THANK GOD WE DON'T HAVE THAT MANY HOMICIDES HERE.
UM, UH, I HAVE YET TO COME ACROSS, UM, A SUICIDE THAT TURNED OUT TO BE A HOMICIDE.
UM, THERE WAS ONE THAT WAS REPORTED SUICIDE, BUT IT WAS DEFINITELY A HOMICIDE 'CAUSE YOU CAN'T SHOOT YOURSELF HEAD.
AND I SENT THE PERSON, I SENT THE PERSON AND I RULED IT A HOMICIDE EVEN THOUGH THE LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCY THOUGHT IT WAS A SUICIDE.
AND I SAID, NO, IT'S A HOMICIDE ACCORDING TO THE ME'S OFFICE, IT'S A HOMICIDE.
SO THAT ONE OF COURSE WENT TOD'S OFFICE.
BUT THE THING IS, THERE WERE SOME OF THESE NATURALS, YOU HAVE A 42-YEAR-OLD MAN WHO'S, UH, YOU KNOW, SLIGHTLY OVERWEIGHT,
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BUT HE THERE WASN'T ON ANY MEDICATION.HE, THE FAMILY WANTS TO KNOW WHAT HAPPENED TO HIM.
UH, HE HAS KIDS AND, AND SO WE SENT HIM, BUT A CASE LIKE THAT, WE SEND THEM TO LIKE AMERICAN FORENSICS INSTEAD OF SITTING OVER AT THE'S OFFICE.
'CAUSE THE DALLAS COUNTY AND HIS OFFICE SLAMMED.
BUT LOTS OF LOTS OF, YOU KNOW, DESKS AND OFFICER THAT THEY HAVE TO DO.
AND THEY HAVE, THERE AREN'T THESE PEOPLE IN
I MEAN IT'S APPROPRIATE THAT, UH, WHO, BECAUSE I THINK THERE'S SOME MATTERS THAT BEAR ON ATTORNEY CONSULTATION, PUBLIC RECORD.
NOT, NOT WHAT WE'VE HEARD SO FAR, BUT SOME THAT MAY COME.
I WANTED TO ASK JACK A QUESTION.
THIS IS CONSIDERED A PROFESSIONAL SERVICE.
THAT'S WHAT IT'S, SO IT'S NOT A PROCUREMENT ISSUE.
SO FAR ALL I'VE BEEN GIVEN IS, IS A LIST.
WE WOULD NEED A LIST OF ALL THE, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN CALL AND GET, WE WOULD NEED SERVICE.
THE, UH, DA'S OFFICE HAS ASKED THAT WE ENTER, ENTER INTO AN EXECUTIVE SESSION.
WHO NEEDS TO STAY IN HERE? UM, THE JP BES MARK, UM, THE DA JPS, I THINK CHIEF BEAVERS TOO THAT BE APPROPRIATE OR ANY OTHER LAW ENFORCEMENT THAT DEAL WITH THIS ALL THE TIME.
ALRIGHT, SO DO I HAVE A MOTION? SO MOST OF THE YEAH, THIS WOULD BE UNDER, SO I NEED MOTION.
I THINK, UH, YEAH, WE, WE HAD A MOTION FROM, UH, PHILLIPS WHO WANTS TO, RANDY ARE, ARE YOU HERE? YES.
OKAY, Y'ALL, I APOLOGIZE TO MR. ALLEN AND BECAUSE I BROUGHT THIS FROM LAST YEAR.
IT WAS SOMETHING THAT I PRESENTED IN JULY OF LAST YEAR, AND IT BASICALLY GOES OVER THE DUTIES OF THE JUSTICE OF THE POLICE AND THIS COUNTY.
AND I KNOW YOU HAVE ANY INFORMATION ON OTHER COUNTIES OF SMITH JUDGE SMITH.
OKAY, I'M SORRY I DIDN'T MAKE COPIES.
I'M JUST GONNA DO THIS TO YOU AND, UH, I'LL EMAIL COPIES LATER ON.
BUT I JUST WOULD LIKE TO, UH, POINT OUT ONE THING THAT IT'S, THAT IT STARTS OFF THAT IT IS, UH, WE WANT YOU TO BE AWARE OF ALL THE DUTIES AND RESPONSIBILITIES THAT WE HAVE AND PERFORM ON A DAILY BASIS THROUGHOUT THE YEAR.
WE ASK FOR IT AND WE DON'T MIND IT.
UM, BUT WE FEEL THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT, UH, THE COMPENSATION SHOULD BE
UH, AND IT'S NOT JUST, UH, SUGGESTS THAT ANYBODY, UH, IN ANY OTHER CAPACITY IN COUNTY GOVERNMENT, DEPARTMENT HEADS OR OTHERWISE, UH, WE'RE NOT TAKING AWAY ANYTHING THAT THEY DO.
BUT I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT, BESIDES SHIFT WORK IN THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT AND MAYBE FIRE MARSHALL'S OFFICE, THAT, UH, WE'RE THE ONLY ONES THAT GO OUT ON NIGHTS AND WEEKENDS AND WE WORK HOLIDAYS.
SO I, FOR EXAMPLE, THIS WILL BE MY FOURTH YEAR IN GROVE THAT I'LL HAVE CHRISTMAS, CHRISTMAS EVE, CHRISTMAS DAY.
I HAVE THANKSGIVING DAY, I HAVE WHOLE WEEK OF THANKSGIVING, THE WHOLE WEEK OF CHRISTMAS.
AND THEN SOMEBODY HAS NEW YEAR'S.
I MEAN, AT SOME LAST YEAR SHE WAS KIND OF JULY 4TH.
YEAH, SHE WAS KIND CHRISTMAS, E BUT YOU KNOW, TODAY I'LL GIVE YOU, I'LL TRADE YOU, UH, JULY 4TH AND EVERYTHING AND THE LABOR DAY FOR CHRISTMAS.
SO ANYWAY, UH, AND THIS, THIS LIST ALL OF OUR RESPONSIBILITIES AND WE JUST WANT TO POINT OUT THAT AS WE STATED THAT WE HAVE A LOT OF DUTIES THAT ARE, WE WEAR MANY HATS BECAUSE
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WE NOT ONLY WHEN WE GO OUT, WE HAVE TO LOOK AT WORK WITH LAW ENFORCEMENT ON, ON THE DESKS.WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH THE FAMILIES IN TIMES OF SADNESS AND GRIEF AND ANGER A LOT OF TIMES.
AND, AND WE THEN WE HAVE TO WORK WITH FUNERAL HOMES AND EMMY'S OFFICES AND, AND EVERYTHING.
YOU KNOW, THIS GOES ON FOR SOMETIMES WEEKS AND MONTHS.
IF WE'RE WAITING FOR AN AUTOPSY REPORT, WE'RE TRAVELING MORE THAN ANY ELECTED OFFICIAL IN THE STATE COUNTY.
I BEG THE DIFFERENCE THAT YES SIR.
GOING CUTTING TREES OFF THE ROADS IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT, PUTTING UP BARRICADES ON FLOODED ROADS.
WELL, YEAH, YOU HAD A WELL, I, WELL WE HAVE ONE MORE THING AND THEN I'M GONNA BE, I'M GOING THIS, UH, BUT IT'S TO ALL OF YOU.
AND UH, THIS ONE THING IS THAT NOW WITH THE NEW LEGISLATIVE UPDATE I'M GOING ON, JUDGE AND I ARE GONNA COURT, UH, TO THE ONE ENTIRE UH, WE'LL BE FINDING OUT IS THIS TRUANCY COURT THING HAS CHANGED ALL OF ITS HEAD.
WE'RE GONNA HAVE CIVIL DOCKET FOR THAT AND A CRIMINAL DOCKET.
UH, WE HAVE SEPARATE THE PARENTS FROM THE KIDS.
THE KIDS WILL BE CIVIL, THE PARENTS WILL BE CRIMINAL.
UH, WE HAVE TO COME UP WITH IDEAS AND I'M MEETING WITH THE SCHOOL PERSONNEL.
'CAUSE I HAVE WHAT, 13 SCHOOLS IN, IN THE MORNING INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT.
WE JUST WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT WE ARE NOT ASKING FOR THIS.
SO WE JUST WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT, THAT WE WOULD APPRECIATE CONSIDERATION.
I THINK JUDGE SMITH PUT SOMETHING ON HIS, UH, ON HIS, WE DIDN'T PUT ANYTHING BECAUSE TRA AND Y'ALL, I THINK AT ONE TIME YOU WERE KIND OF TALKING TO SOME OF THE OTHER COUNTIES AND I ALL THAT JUDGE SMITH, WHO ISN'T HERE TODAY BECAUSE HE, HE PASSED A COMPARISON.
BUT YOU'RE GONNA SEND THAT WE CAN SEND YOUR, CAN WE SEND ANY THAT, SEND IT TO ME IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND MAKE COPIES FOR I APPRECIATE AND I APOLOGIZE THAT I DID MAKE COPIES FOR EVERYBODY.
AND NOT AS ON THE BALL OF THE MONDAY MORNING.
THE ONLY THING THAT I HAVE IS, UM, I WANT SOME ASSURANCES BECAUSE I NOTICED THAT WE ALL FOR ASKED FOR, FOR A FURNITURE LINE ITEM IN OUR, AND WE DIDN'T GET IT.
AND I JUST WANT SOME ASSURANCES THAT IF WE NEED SOME FURNITURE THAT WE AREN'T GONNA HAVE TO COME IN.
I WAS TOLD IF IT WASN'T IN THE BUDGET THAT YOU MAY ALL AGREED TO TAKE IT OUT JUST FOR FACILITATED.
IN OTHER WORDS, NOBODY, NOBODY HAS ANYMORE OUTTA EVERYBODY.
IT'S NOT JUST BECAUSE DON'T WANT YOU TO BE ABLE TO BUY BECAUSE YOU GOT YOUR CHAIR TO HER.
UH, BUT NO, YOU KNOW, JUST TRYING TO MAKE IT EQUAL.
NOT TRYING TO GET CARRIED AWAY, BUT YOU KNOW THAT PROBLEM AND THAT WAY WE'LL BE ABLE TO MOVE THINGS AROUND AND FIND FUTURE FURNITURE.
IF YOU NEED SOMETHING, IF YOU JUST LIKE PATRICIA, SHE NEEDS, ALL SHE HAS TO DO IS I'M GONNA TAKE CARE.
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COATING ON I 20.EVERY TIME THEY DO, PEOPLE ARE GETTING OFF TEAR.
SINCE YOU YOU SAID THAT I NEED TO KNOW BECAUSE IN THE CONSTABLES, 1, 2, 3, AND FOUR, YOU THEM HAVE EQUIPMENT.
I, I TOLD AND WE EVEN DISCUSSED IT.
HOW DO WE LEAVE IT IN THERE? BECAUSE THEY SPECIFICALLY COME AND ASK FOR CERTAIN THINGS.
AND THAT'S THE WAY WE USUALLY THAT, BECAUSE I'M GONNA TELL YOU WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN.
WE'RE GONNA MOVE IT ALL TO THAT ONE LINE ITEM, 5,200.
AND THEN SOME PEOPLE'S GONNA GET SOME OF THEIR STUFF AND OTHER PEOPLE LIKE WE'RE RUN OUTTA MONEY.
YOU, I, I THINK WE, I THINK WE DEFINITELY NEED TO MOVE.
WELL WE NEED TO ADVERTISE POSITION.
WE ADVERTISE POSITION, WE ADOPT DESCRIP.
BUT LET'S, RATHER THAN LET'S MOVE THIS.
I'M, IT WASN'T I'M WELL I JUST GO, THERE'S NO POINT.
IF THEY'VE GOT SOMETHING SPECIFIC THAT THEY NEED, THEY NEED, THEY COME IN THE BUDGET.
FOR WHAT? WHATEVER HE ASKED FOR IN THE, HE JUST LEFT.
AND IN PRECINCT, THAT EQUIPMENT NOT FURNISHING, EQUIPMENT'S DIFFERENT THAN GOT OFFICE BEFORE.
PRECINCT THREE WAS EQUIPMENT BECAUSE HE ASKED FOR A DESK UNIT FOR HIS, UH, DEPUTY AND UH, CONSTABLE.
AND I THINK IF WE RECALL WE TAKE THAT AND HE SAID HE DIDN'T KNOW.
SAID HE WOULD, IF I RECALL BE WRONG.
MY CONCERN IS IT APPEARS THAT THE CONSTABLES FURNITURE, WHAT YOUR FURNITURE, YOUR BUDGET COST ALL COST.
I THINK, I THINK IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE, IT WAS AT ONE TIME SOMEBODY, RANDY MIGHT ONE TIME THEY HAD SLASH FURNITURE EQUIP.
REMEMBER THAT'S THE WAY IT WAS LAST YEAR.
WHAT HAPPENED WAS WE DIDN'T, ONE OF 'EM JUST HAPPENED.
SOMEBODY'S MADE A EIGHT FOOT FURNITURE INSTEAD OF EQUIPMENT.
BOTH THE EQUIPMENT, FURNITURE.
THEY, SO WHAT WHAT I'M SAYING IS LET'S JUST TAKE A WORD FURNITURE OUTTA HERE.
LINE WE GONNA TAKE FURNITURE EQUIPMENT'S.
I THINK HAD VEST AND SO MORNING SOME VESTS.
DO YOU KNOW VEST? HOW APPROXIMATELY SEVEN.
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HAVE A LIFE EXPECTANCY.BECAUSE OF THE SWEAT FROM YOUR BODY.
YEAH, SOME OF THEM FIVE TO SIX, BUT IT'S GOT AN EXPIRATION DATE ON IT.
YOU WANT COME UP AFTERNOON, SOME OF THE, UH, ITEMS BACK AND FROM PREVIOUS, BUT YOU KNOW, WHEN I FIRST CAME IN RESTRUCTURING AND UH, AND SO FORTH AND UH, WAS PRETTY MUCH CLOSE READ.
UH, MY OTHER QUESTION IS ON, UH, 1230.
WHEN, UH, WE TOOK CARE OF MISS'S SITUATION WHEN THE SECRETARY LEFT AND CHANGED AND SHE BECAME COORDINATOR TO THE SECRETARY, WHICH I 37 30 SALARY 15 9, 23.
AND SAY SOME OF THESE HAVE MAY CHANGED HER PRIMARY, SHE UP HERSELF AND NOBODY TOOK ADVANTAGE OF HER KNOWLEDGE.
THAT'S HOW SHE BECAME, UH, WHEN TRISH RETIRED.
TRISH WAS OUR FORMER SECRETARY AT, UM, I ALSO HAD TO SAN, SO THE SANITAR SALARY THERE WAS ABOUT 24 SAN AND UH, 30 AND DEPARTMENT SECRETARY TO PROVIDE THE SECRETARY, NEW SECRETARY TO ACCEPTING CONTRACTS, RECEIPTS SECRETARY.
SHE AS WELL AS BEING, SHE'S EXTREMELY EFFICIENT.
SHE'S SCHEDULING ALL THE ENVIRONMENTAL OFFICERS, UH, FOR THEIR INSPECTIONS.
SHE'S DOING ALL THE, SHE KEEPS UP WITH MY, AND I HAD INDICATED, UH, I TO YOU JUDGE AND WHEN WE DOING ALL THIS THAT I
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WASIT WERE DRIVE FOR THE YEAR AND NEW BUDGET YEAR, APPLY THAT 24, THAT WOULD BRING ABOUT 35.WHICH ITEM WOULD BE 1230 WOULD BE THE CURRENT FISHER'S FOR SECRETARY.
THESE 29, 3 8 6 WOULD INCLUDE THIS PROPOSED 1200.
YOU GOT SALARIES? WE THE HEAD THERE.
UH, SO YOU 33 6 6, WHAT DO YOU WANNA DO WITH HER? NO, THIS FINE.
UH, IS THE NINE 12, WHICH WOULD BE IS AND ALL WHAT SHE DOES.
I, WHAT IS IT YOU'RE SAYING SECRETARY MUST GIVE THE 24.
YEAH, BUT IN THAT LINE, ITEM 25 OUT PLUS BRINGING IN AND TRISHA GOT, UM, BASE PAY, MERIT PAY IN LONGEVITY.
AND I IF IT WOULD MATTER TO YOU, UM, YOU HAVE, BUT THE ONLY INCREASE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THEN IN THIS WHOLE THING IS YOUR WHOLE TOTAL BUDGET AND HIS LINE 67 ON HIS SHEET RAISE, RAISE FOUR.
NOT WHETHER WITHOUT EVEN KNOWING.
I TELL YOU WHAT WE CAN YEAH, IF SO, IF WE GIVE HER 1200, EVERYBODY 12, THEN ADDITIONAL 12 BRING HER TO WHERE DO YOU THINK SHE, IT WOULD BE DOWN BE PRETTY GOOD.
I Y'ALL, HE SAYS SHE'S DOING THE JOB IS WELL, GOT A POSITION, YOU KNOW, THAT'S GONNA WORK BETTER ANYWAY.
HAVEN'T COME UP, ONLY CONFUSION OR NOT YOU HAVE A UH MM-HMM
THAT'S WHY SHE HAD A HISTORY WITH THIS.
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UH, LAURIE, DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING? I HAD ONE OTHER BENEFIT I WANTED, I FORGOT TO ASK HER ABOUT THE OTHER DAY.THERE'S THIS COMPANY THAT EVERY YEAR AND I COME AND ASK Y'ALL EVERY YEAR WE HAVE TWO NEW COMMISSIONERS.
THEY, UM, OFFER, UM, LEGAL SERVICES.
CAN THEY OFFER LEGAL SERVICES? UM, IT'S NO COST TO THE COUNTY.
IT'S HUNDRED PERCENT PAID BY EMPLOYEES ON THAT FIRST PAGE AT THE BOTTOM YOU'LL SEE, UM, THEY HAVE A LEGAL SHOW WHERE THEY OFFER, OFFER LEGAL SERVICES.
THEY HELP WRAP WHEELS, UH, DIVORCES, JUST LEGAL SERVICES.
AND THEN THEY ALSO DO AN IDENTITY THEFT TYPE THING.
AND UM, THEY COME TO ME THE LAST THREE YEARS, THEY WANNA OFFER THIS TO OUR EMPLOYEES JUST A MATTER IF WE WANT TO.
WE HAVEN'T NEVER DONE IT BEFORE.
UM, THE ONLY THING THEY ENSURE THAT THEY DON'T EVER OFFER LEGAL GUIDANCE IF IT ADVERSELY REFLECTS ON THE COUNTY.
SO IF THEY WOULD FIND LIKE A LAWSUIT OR SOMETHING AGAINST THE COUNTY, THEY WOULD HELP THEM WITH THAT.
UM, BUT THIS IS A BENEFIT TO THE EMPLOYEE, UM, THAT THERE'S NO CONTRACT IN THE COUNTY.
BUT WE WOULD OFFER IT THROUGH A PAYROLL DEDUCTION.
IF EMPLOYEES WANTED TO SIGN UP FOR IT, UM, THEY WOULD HAVE THAT BENEFIT.
UM, LAST YEAR I THINK I SPOKE WITH, UM, JUDGE RILEY ABOUT IT AND SHE DIDN'T SEE ANYTHING THAT WAS SIGNIFICANT OR GOOD ABOUT IT.
BUT AS A PERSON WHO'S NOT AN ATTORNEY, IT LOOKS LIKE A BIG DEAL TO ME.
BUT, UM, AND THIS, THIS PROSECUTOR DOWN HERE DOES, UH, THERE A PEN PERIOD? UH, I BELIEVE THAT'S A MONTH.
YEAH, THAT'S DO THEY HAVE TO HAVE NUMBER OF PARTICIPANTS? NOPE.
HAVE YOU DONE ANY REFERENCE CHECKING ON THEM OR ANYTHING? I DON'T.
I, THERE ARE A COUPLE COUNTIES THAT DO HAVE THEM.
I KNOW SEVERAL PEOPLE OUTSIDE THAT AREN'T WITH THE COUNTY THAT I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THAT I'VE HEARD THAT THEY USE THEM.
AND SO LIKE IF YOU GET A CONTRACTOR, THAT'S SOMETHING GOING ON IN YOUR HOUSE OR YOUR FAMILY.
IF YOU JUST CALL 'EM UP, ASK A QUESTION AND BE DONE, AND THEN THEY OFFER PERMISSION REAL ESTATE SPEAKER.
I, I MEAN IT'S SOMETHING IF YOU WANT, I MEAN I CERTAINLY GET SOME INFORMATION IN, BUT I CAN GET MORE INFORMATION.
UM, WE'RE COMING CLOSE TO OPEN ENROLLMENT.
SO I MEAN SOMETHING WE CAN, THEY CAN COME OUT AND PRESENT TO YOU GUYS IF THEY WANNA, UM, THE GENTLEMAN, HIS NAME IS BRIAN PARKER.
UM, HE'S, UM, VOLUNTEERED TO COME OUT AND TALK TO YOU GUYS IF Y'ALL WANT SOME INFORMATION.
UM, BUT IT'S, SO WE'RE JUST RUNNING CLOSE TO OPEN ENROLLMENT.
WE'RE STARTING IN AUGUST, ANOTHER SALES PRESENTATION.
BUT THEY DON'T REPRESENT ANYBODY IN TRIAL THAT JUST GIVE YOU TO GET THERE.
RIGHT? THEY, AND THEN THEY OFFER, THEY OFFER SOME LEGAL SERVICES LIKE THE FIRST COUPLE HOURS IF YOU HAVE A TRIAL OR SOMETHING, AS LONG AS IT DOESN'T ADVERSE EFFECT ON THE COUNTY AND THEN YOU PAY FOR ADDITIONAL SALARY.
A HUGE, AND THEY'LL DO IT AS MANY TIMES, LIKE 15 TICKETS A YEAR.
AND NOT JUST THAT, THEY ALSO HAVE THIS IDENTITY THEFT PROGRAM TOO THAT THEY OFFER.
YEAH, I IT'S A PRETTY GOOD DEAL FOR THEM.
WHAT KIND OF SHOULD PRESENTATION SAY IF THEY'RE REPUTABLE, IT'S PROBABLY A GOOD THING TO OFFER IT.
IF IT'S NOT REPUTABLE, I SURE WOULDN'T WANT OFFER ANY OF MY EMPLOYEES.
AND I MEAN IT'S ONLY THING THAT WE HAVE TO, WE DON'T HAVE TO PARTICIPATE.
WE WOULD JUST OPERATE IT THROUGH A PAYROLL DEDUCTION.
UM, WE DON'T HAVE TO, I WOULDN'T SIGN UP SOME NURSES.
CAN WE GET A PERCENTAGE BACK? MM.
IT'S ONLY A BENEFIT OF EVERYONE'S OFFICE DEAL.
IS IT FOR US? WELL EMPLOYEES CAN, EMPLOYEES CAN GO TO THEM ON THEIR OWN.
WE DON'T HAVE, BUT THEY DON'T NEED THIS BREAK.
APPARENTLY IT'S MORE EXPENSIVE IF THEY GO ON THEIR OWN.
SO LIKE IF I WANT TO GO AND GET AN SIGN UP WITH IT.
STEVE, DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING? UM, I DON'T KNOW.
DID YOU WANT CUT? CUT ANYTHING? Y'ALL HAVE MY BUDGET OR THANK YOU.
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CUT IT IF YOU, ME FOR SOMETHING.IF YOU DON'T, I'M GONNA GO BACK TO WORK.
BRIAN, YOU, I MEAN JACK, YOU NEED BRIAN, Y'ALL EVERYTHING.
UH, I GUESS PINE INFORMATION ELECTION, UH, WE DISCUSSED THAT, BUT UH, ANY, YOU KNOW, THE BUDGET IS PRETTY WELL WHAT IT WAS EXCEPT FOR THE CHANGES WE MADE OTHER DAY.
I DID NOTICE THAT WE DON'T, I KNOW IT'S A GOOD CONTRACT.
26 FEDERAL PRISONERS WILL BE JANUARY IN FEBRUARY, YOU KNOW, AND WE PUT MILLION SIX IN BUDGET.
WE MEASURED THAT MUCH MONEY FOR NEXT YEAR.
WE'VE GOT BUDGET, WHICH IS THREE ON REVENUE SIDE.
YEAH, WE'RE BUDGETING RIGHT HERE.
HERE'S MY, HERE'S MY THOUGHTS ON THAT.
WE'RE NOT BUDGETING THE LAST, UH, THREE MONTHS OF THIS YEAR.
UH, THE REVENUE, YOU KNOW, I'VE GOT THE FIGURES HERE.
SOME, WE TALKED ABOUT THAT EARLIER.
SO THAT'D BE MONEY THAT CARRY OVER.
THE OTHER THING THAT WE COULD DO IF THAT WERE TO HAPPEN, AND BRIAN MAY BE ABLE TO GIVE US YOU CAN'T, YOU, IT DOESN'T ANYTHING TO DO WITH IT.
HE'S GOT EARS, HE ANYTHING BUT THE, THE ALL I'M SAYING IS THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT'S IN THIS HAND AND SOMETHING DID HAPPEN.
IT COULD JUST BE THAT THEY DIDN'T HAVE THAT MANY FEDERAL PRISONERS FOR SOME ODD REASON.
WHO KNOWS? THEY MIGHT GET A GOOD, THE JUDGE TO CLEAN 'EM ALL OUT.
AND, UH, IF IT DOES FROM, UH, ONE, ONE OF THESE OTHER COMMISS, UM, OUR 500,000 FOOT, OUR OTHER ADDITIONAL AT THE END OF THE YEAR MAKES UP TO ABOUT, UH, 800, 12,000 OR ROUGHLY.
UM, WHAT ELSE DO WE HAVE THAT WE HAVE EXTRA TO MAKE UP? MAKE UP? THAT'S A LOT.
YOU WHAT I'M SAYING? WELL, WE'RE CARRYING OVER.
WE WE GOT THE HALF MILLION PUT ASIDE.
YOU KNOW, WE VOTED ON DOING THAT TODAY.
AGAIN, THIS OTHER MONEY IS GONNA SOMEWHERE BE CLOSE TO, I MEAN WE WE'RE THE LAST THREE MONTHS OF THE, UH, WELL THE LAST THREE MONTHS IS ABOUT $800,000.
WELL THAT COULD, I'M JUST SAYING, UH, THAT'S, THAT'S TOTAL CHARGE.
I THINK WE BUDGETED 150 MONEY NEXT YEAR IN REVENUE.
1 37 I YEAH, FAR BUDGET RIGHT NOW.
WE'VE BEEN, WE'VE BEEN RUNNING A BALLPARK RIGHT AROUND A HUNDRED ANYWHERE.
I DON'T, I COULD BE ON PAGE NINE ABOUT IT, BUT I,
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I WANT POLICE OFFICER HAVE ALL THE FIRST GUY PART THAT I DON'T, WE CAN WE SAY WE YOU CAN'T DO IT.NOT FOR WORD FOR YEAH, SAY IT.
WHOEVER'S HERE ONE YEAR FROM NOW, OR SAY OCTOBER ONE, OCTOBER 1ST, 2016, THEY'VE BEEN WITH US.
WE GIVE YOU SEE WHAT I'M SAYING? NOW WE'RE PAYING ARREAR THAT WOULD BE IN TO STAY FOR YOU.
SEE WHAT I'M SAYING? WE PAYING IT COMES IN AND WE HAVE MONEY.
IF LEAST IF WE'VE GOT SOMETHING THEN WE CAN BUDGET NEXT YEAR AND MAKE A LOAN IT SO WE WON'T GET OURSELVES IN SO MUCH TROUBLE.
THERE'S NOBODY'S WORKED WHERE IT, I DON'T SEE THAT GO AWAY.
THAT'S ASKING LEGAL POSSIBILITY, LOSING SOMETHING.
I THINK THAT THERE IS AND I UNDERSTAND THAT IF WE COULD PREDICT THE FUTURE, YOU KNOW, CAN'T PREDICT IT, WE DO A MUCH BETTER JOB.
UH, BUT WHO KNOWS WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN.
I MEAN, I, I THINK THEY'RE VERY HAPPY FOR THAT CONTRACT.
UH, BUT YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST, THEY, IT MIGHT NOT HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE, UH, IT MIGHT NOT BE THE FACILITY OR NOTHING.
GUESS WHAT? THEY'RE, THEY'RE WE'RE RIGHT NOW WISH I HAD RUN HERE TODAY.
DIDN'T JOHNSON COUNTY JAIL, THEY'RE ABOUT SO THERE'S PROXIMITY SOMEBODY'S WAYS FOR US TO A PACKAGE.
THEY DON'T DO, THEY'RE NOT LIKE THESE OTHER LITTLE COUNTIES BIG CALLS.
IT'S, YOU'VE GOTTA FILL OUT A PACKET THAT THEY'RE GONNA SEE HOW MUCH, IF WE HAVE ANY KIND OF, IS THERE ANY, ANYBODY OVER THERE WE WITH THEY HAVE TO KNOW.
THIS IS A BIG DEAL FOR US, YOU KNOW? WELL I GOT, I, BUT I MEAN, I'D LIKE FOR TO COME DOWN AND TALK TO US.
IT JUST SAYS, LOOK, WE'RE WE'RE PAYING THIS AMOUNT OF MONEY.
WE KNOW THEY CAN'T GUARANTEE US THAT.
BUT I MEAN, SOME LEVEL THAT'S NOT EVEN, THAT'S NOT EVEN, THAT'S NOT EVEN STILL UP TO HIM EVER WHO IT IS.
IT COULD, YOU KNOW, HIS JOB COULD CHANGE TOMORROW.
THE MAN THAT HE, THE ONE THAT'S HE'S ACTING CHIEF.
I'M JUST SAYING WHAT IT'S, I'M JUST, YOU WANNA BE CAUTIOUS OF IT.
YOU DON'T WANT TO BE, YOU KNOW, CAUGHT.
I THINK WHAT SAYING IS, IS IF UM, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GONNA TRY TO GET EVERYBODY 1200 A YEAR INCREASE, WE DO THAT WITH THE SHERIFF JAIL AND ALL THOSE PEOPLE ALSO.
AND THEN SAY, YOU KNOW, IF IT'S LEGAL AT THE END OF THE YEAR, THE ONES THAT STAY ANOTHER YEAR, HUNDRED $50 DIFFERENCE TICKETS, MARSHALL MONEY KEEPS COMING IN ONE TIME, YOU KNOW, AND THEN, AND THEN THE NEXT YEAR, 50 YOU BUDGETED ALL YEAR SO THAT THE NEXT YEAR WE CAN ACTUALLY BUDGET THAT RAISE INTO THE BILL.
THEN IT'S A WHOLE, AND THAT'S THE INCENTIVE FOR THEM TO STAY ANOTHER YEAR.
WE DON'T HAVE, IT'S NOT GUARANTEED BY TAX.
AND THEN WHAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO DO IS, WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS BUDGET THAT RAISE INTO THE TAXABLE VALUE OF OUR COUNTY.
I MEAN WE CAN'T, WE HAVE TO DEPEND ON THIS, THIS IT, NOT IT BE T FIVE YEARS, IT BE T MORE YEAR LEFT ON.
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DO THIS EVERY YEAR IN FOUR YEARS, WE DON'T HAVE MAKE SIX.WELL THEN WE'RE BACK TO ANYTHING WITH THE ECONOMY IN OUR TAX FLATLINE.
BUT HERE'S, HERE'S IT BEING AT THE END OF PAYMENT ALSO GONNA COME.
NOBODY WE GOTTA GIVE SOMETHING BECAUSE THEY AIN'T, THIS IS TURNOVER.
WE'RE FINDING, WE'RE FINDING THERE'S NOT EVEN ARGUING 12 BIT.
BUT YOU KNOW, AND, AND I DON'T THINK YOU, I MEAN I'M JUST, I'M JUST LOOKING FOR A GOOD WAY TO DO SOMETHING.
BUT I MEAN IT COULD, IT COULD BE, IT COULD BE THE WHOLE COUNTY.
WE DO THE WHOLE COUNTY WOULDN'T MATTER THOSE THINGS.
BUT I MEAN IF IT'S LEGAL EMPLOYEE AND THAT'S WHY I'M TELLING YOU TO COME OVER AND SIT DOWN AND TALK ABOUT IT BECAUSE I HADN'T LOOKED AT IT AND SEE IF THERE'S A WAY THAT WE CAN INCORPORATE THIS SOMEHOW WE COULD DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
IT WOULD RELIEVE THE STRESS OFF MY MIND AND PROBABLY TAKE YOU PROBABLY JIMMY WELL ISSUE WHEN WE GAVE THEM 500 OR THE 600.
GIVE IT UP TO EVERYBODY ACROSS THE BOARD.
I DUNNO IF WE CAN GIVE CERTAIN HOW LONG IT'S BEEN THERE.
WELL WE DID THE FIVE OR 600 PROVIDE THEY WERE HERE AT, WE HAVE TO LAW ENFORCEMENT IT TO ALL OF THEM.
EVEN IF THEY HADN'T BEEN HERE A YEAR, IT WOULD'VE BEEN HERE A MONTH.
BUT WELL THAT MAY BE GOOD FOR SOMEBODY TO HIRE ON.
I MEAN, WELL ALL I'M SAYING IS BE LONGEVITY DALLAS, COULD YOU NOT KIND OF USE IT AS LONGEVITY BUT NOT USE THE WORD LONGEVITY 10 YEARS AGO.
WELL Y'ALL ARE SAYING SOMEONE'S, YOU'RE SAYING I'M NOT ASKING THEM.
YOU'RE THE MONEY IF SOMEONE HAS BEEN HERE FOR A YEAR.
SO IF YOU ADD IT TO THEIR BASE, A LAW ENFORCEMENT, YOU HAVE TO ADD IT TO EVERYBODY'S BASE NO MATTER HOW LONG THEY'RE BEEN HERE.
IF YOU CREATE SOME TYPE OF LONGEVITY PROGRAM THAT SAID YOU'RE AWARDING PEOPLE FOR BEING HERE FOR A YEAR, THAT'S NOT ADDING TO THEIR BASE.
CAN YOU DO LONGEVITY FOR ONE YEAR? I KNOW, I KNOW THAT, THAT IT'S KIND LONGEVITY POLICY.
I KNOW IT'S POSSIBLE BECAUSE DALLAS DID IT WITH THEIR $10,000 BONUS.
THEY GAVE 'EM ALL A $10,000 BONUS TO GO WORK, BUT THEN THEY DIDN'T PAY 'EM UNTIL THEY'D BEEN THERE A YEAR AND THEN THEY GAVE THEM ANOTHER 5,000 BONUS.
IF THEY CAN DO THAT, THEN WE CAN STRETCH OUT A YEAR SAYING, LOOK, EVERYBODY'S GOING TO STAY HERE WITH US FOR THE NEXT YEAR.
WE'RE GOING TO GIVE YOU WHATEVER THIS $2,000 IS.
YOU KNOW, RONNIE, I THINK YOU WANTED TO SAY SOMETHING.
YOU SEE WHAT I'M SAYING? I'M ALL ABOUT TRAINING AND EDUCATION AND, AND I Y'ALL ARE STRUGGLING WITH RULES.
SO IS IT POSSIBLE THAT WE HAVE A, A TRAINING PROGRAM THAT IF YOU, THIS YEAR, IF YOU DO THESE SET MODULES AREAS AT THE END OF THE YEAR, YOU GET $2,000 FOR BEING IN TRAINING ALL YEAR? WELL, I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW.
WE USED TO HAVE CERTIFICATE PAY FROM LONGEVITY LEFT RIGHT BEFORE LONGEVITY DIED.
SO THAT'S, YOU CAN DO CERTIFICATE PAY, BUT YOU HAVE TO BASE THAT OFF.
IT WAS 12 FOR I'M JUST, I'M JUST TRYING TO FIND TO GIVE FOR THIS YEAR.
BUT WE CAN'T PAY THEM UNTIL OUR MONEY COMES IN.
IT'S ALL, I DON'T HAVE AN ISSUE WITH, I I FEEL CONFIDENT WE'RE GONNA GET THE MONEY.
MONEY I THIS YEAR WHAT WE THINK WE'RE, I'M A HUNDRED PERCENT, I REALLY BELIEVE WE'RE GOING TO GET THE MONEY TOO,
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OFFERING IT TO THEM.BUT LET'S OFFER IT IN A SAFE WAY.
UM, I MEAN OTHERWISE WE'LL HAVE TO CHANGE THE STRUCTURE RACES IN MY OPINION BECAUSE I CAN'T, I CAN'T SIGN ON TO TERRY'S WORKING ON FIGURE OUT, YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? WE HAVE, WE HAVE UH, 800, I KNOW WE HAVE 800 TO A MILLION DOLLARS THIS YEAR THAT WOULD PROBABLY GET REALLY CLOSE TO BILLING OUT OUT JUST THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT THAT WE DID DID THAT.
BUT THEN ALL REST WAS, WE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO DOUBT THAT.
AND, AND THEN IF WE COULDN'T DO THAT, THEN WE COULD CUT IT BACK TO 12 OFF ACROSS THE BOARD AND WE MIGHT GET ALMOST THERE.
I MEAN WE'RE ALMOST CLOSE TO THE NOW.
I WORKED ON IT ALL WEEKEND ABOUT TWO.
I WE'RE GETTING MORE BREATHABLE, BUT WE'RE STILL A 600,000 GAP LOOK.
BASICALLY ALL THE JAIL, ALL THE JAIL CONTRACT MONEY IS GOING INCREASE 12.
OR IF WE DID 1200 AND 2050, THAT'S GONNA TAKE EVERYTHING, EVERYTHING TO THE JAIL.
WE TALKED ABOUT PUBLIC SAFETY, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, SOME ASPECTS MAKING MONEY JAIL KIND OF GET THEM AND, AND YOU ARE, YOU'RE GETTING THEM IN.
NO, BUT I'M SAYING I'M GIVING IT BACK TO YOU IN THE SAME THING.
YOU KNOW, ONE, I KNOW THAT, I KNOW.
EVERYBODY SAYS 5, 6, 7 YEARS FROM NOW YOU'LL BE SAYING RADIO GO OUT AND SO WE WANT GET YOU DON'T YEAH.
AND SO WE WANT TO GET, WE NEED TO GET THEM REALLY QUICK.
SO WE'RE ALREADY AT END OF THE DAY, AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE'RE SAVING NOTHING TO PAY EXTRA ON THE RADIO IF WE GIVE ALL THESE PLACES NOTHING.
WELL, THERE'S, AS LONG AS THE MONEY KEEPS COMING IN, WE'RE OKAY.
WE'RE PAYING BIG ALREADY GONNA BE BURNING IT ALL.
NO, YOU GONNA BE BURNING IT ALL SUNDAY.
WELL, WE'RE SPENDING IT ALL SETTING ASIDE FIVE.
THAT'S JUST, THAT'S JUST 1,000,006 FOR SURE.
I MEAN 2.4, PROBABLY 1.5 TO DO.
YOU LOST ME BECAUSE THERE'S SO MANY CROSSTALKS.
I, RON DID YOU WANNA SAY SOMETHING? WELL, YOU KNOW, I'M JUST MINDFUL OF DEVELOPING THE GOOD, CONTINUING TO DEVELOP THE GOOD HABITS OF ADDING TO OUR FUND BALANCE, WHICH WAS OUR NUMBER ONE THING THAT THE EXTERNAL AUDITORS FOCUSED ON.
THERE IS WHERE WE NEED TO FOCUS AND NUMBER TWO, IN MAKING DECISIONS AS WE FINISH THIS YEAR.
UH, LIKE THE EARLY DEBT RETIREMENT IS, BE MINDFUL OF THAT SCARCE COMMODITY OF CASH.
SO WE'RE HEARING, YES, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE DO TO JANUARY AND WE TRY TO BACK SLIP FROM THAT TODAY.
BUT BEING MINDFUL THAT OUR, YOU KNOW, IN 2020 OUR ROAD BOND WILL TAKE THAT STEP UP BY ABOUT ANOTHER 700,000 AND GO FROM 1,000,003 TO A LITTLE OVER, LITTLE OVER TWO, 2 MILLION.
SO AGAIN, THIS CONDITIONING IN THIS BUILDING ARE RESERVE, UH, AGAINST RELATIVELY MODEST INCREASES IN ASSESSED WHEN THE JAIL BOND, WHEN FINISHED THE GENERAL OBLIGATION BONDS, THOSE RUN THROUGH 2024 JUDGE.
SO WE'VE GOT THAT FOUR, WE GOT THAT FIVE YEAR OVERLAP WHERE WE'RE GOING TO BE RETIRING, YOU KNOW, AND THAT 5 20, 20 THROUGH 2024,
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THE COMBINED DEBT SERVICE ON THOSE IS, YEAH, I MEAN IF WE'RE GOING RIGHT NOW, WHICH IS ESTIMATED AT 1 37, BUT TOO MANY YEAH.YOUR, YOUR FIRST, YOUR FIRST YEAR TO PAY YOUR, ON YOUR, UH, ROAD BOND.
ANY PRINCIPLE, YOU ARE GONNA HAVE TO HAVE 3,000,002, YOUR 2023, BUT YOU ALSO PAY OFF, UH, THE, UH, 2012 JAIL BOND 2022 AND YOU'RE PAYING 1,000,007 THERE.
SO YOU'RE GONNA BE MILLION AND HALF OR SEVEN IN THE, NO, IN 2020 3 MILLION YOU'RE GONNA PAY THIS ONE OFF.
I WAS GOING OFF THE NOTE, THE FINANCIAL STATEMENT, AND I DUNNO IF THAT WAS JUST A FORMATTING THING, BUT THERE COULD BE A NOT THE WAY HE DID IT FOR YEAR 2020 THROUGH, THEY ONLY BROKE IT DOWN FOR LIKE THE NEXT FIVE YEARS IN THE AUDIT.
I HAD IT FIVE YOU GOT HERE, RIGHT? SO IT'S, I I THOUGHT IT WAS A LITTLE SO WHAT IN, IN 2022, YOU'RE GONNA PAY THE OLD JAIL BOND OFF.
SO THAT'S 1,000,007 45 THAT'S GONNA BE FREED UP.
THAT WILL GO WITH THIS ONE TO PAY THAT 3 MILLION.
BUT THERE'S MILLION NOT IN THE HOLE, BUT THE JAIL DEAL.
AND WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO GAIN IN REVENUE ON PAY NEXT YEAR, BUT WE'RE GONNA ALWAYS HAVE THAT SEVERAL YEARS DON'T HAVE THE DEAL CONTRACT.
NO, WHAT I IS, THEY'RE NOT GONNA EXPECT PAY CUT.
SO WE'RE GONNA HAVE MAKE IT UP INCOME INCOME INCREASE A MILLION DOLLAR A MILLION OVER LAST YEAR.
I TELL YOU, WE WERE AT 34,000,007.
SO MILLION THREE, 500,000 THAT THE, UH, LOAN BANK NO, THAT'S IN, YEAH, THAT'S IN THIS YEAR.
SO WE'VE ALREADY HAD MILLION, SO 800, 900.
I THOUGHT IT WAS 900, BUT 900.
SO SEE IF WE MAKE 900,000 AGAIN THIS NEXT YEAR, WHICH WE HOPE WOULD CLIMB WITH ALL THIS NEW BUSINESS AND IF WE COULD CLIMB TO 1,000,002 MILLION THREE, WELL WE'RE GETTING YOUR, YOU KNOW, BUT WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT NOW IS, BUT NEXT YEAR WOULDN'T BE GETTING 12 AT THE END OF THE YEAR.
EVERYBODY'S THERE DOWN AT EIGHT 50 TO GET YEAH.
AND SEE THE THING ABOUT THAT, IF WE'RE DOING THAT TOWARDS THE BASE TO GET THAT BASE, WHICH I'M NOT DOING THAT.
WOULD THAT HAVE TO BE THE BASE? RIGHT? WELL, THAT, THAT WOULD BE A BASE, WELL IT BE THIS YEAR, BUT WE WOULD AUTOMATICALLY ADD IT FROM NEXT YEAR BECAUSE WE'RE BUDGETING ALL YEAR FOR THE NEXT YEAR.
WE CAN'T BE BUDGETING, WE CAN'T CONTINUE TO BUDGET AT THE END OF THE YEAR.
WE GOTTA BUDGET THIS YEAR OR NEXT YEAR.
YOU SEE WHAT I'M SAYING? WE GONNA ALREADY BE THINKING ABOUT NEXT YEAR.
BUT I'LL, I'LL, I'LL GET ALL THAT AND WE'LL ALL HAVE, GET A BRIDGE UP.
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OTHERWISE EVERY, ALRIGHT, DEBBIE HAD AN ANSWER.WELL, RONNIE AND I WERE TALKING AND WE'RE ALWAYS RUN SHORT AT THE END OF THE YEAR AND SOME PEOPLE THAT HAS THAT AUTHORITY WILL GO TO THE BANK AND BORROW THE MONEY, BUT THEY DON'T SELL BY BORROW MONEY.
REMEMBER THAT? WE DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT THAT 500,000 ALREADY DONE.
I REMEMBER THAT
UM, I HAD Y'ALL APPROVED TO PAY THESE DEBTS OFF FOR $178,000, WHICH WE WANTED TO DO THIS MORNING.
UH, MR. OFIELD ASKED ME COULD WE AGREE TO DO THAT JANUARY, SO WE WOULD HAVE AT LEAST 200,000 TO HELP US CARRY IT OVER UNTIL WE GOT OUR TAX MONEY.
SO I WAS GONNA, HE DIDN'T SAY ANYTHING AND I TOOK THE LIBERTY IF I STEPPED ON YOUR LEMONADES AND LEMONS.
I DON'T, I WE'VE ALREADY VOTED TO DO IT.
I THINK WE'RE GONNA CARRY OVER SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT.
WELL, CAN'T, CAN'T I ASK THE QUESTION? I THOUGHT THAT, UH, I THOUGHT YOU WERE ALLOWED TO BORROW MONEY FROM
YOU CAN, YOU CAN BORROW IT FROM OTHER FUNDS AS LONG AS YOU, MY QUESTION IS WHY WOULD WE GO TO THE BANK, BORROW 500 ABOUT YOU CARRY OVER.
TOM HAD WHAT, $3 MILLION IN THE BANK? WELL, IT WAS SIGNIFICANT.
WHY WOULDN'T WE HAVE THIS BAR BUY HUNDRED AND IT BACK? I I KNOW YOU CAN'T BORROW FROM THE I THEN, BUT I DUNNO THAT THERE'S, YOU CAN'T BORROW.
BUT, BUT I ABOUT THE, WE TRANSFER MONEY FROM GENERAL FUND AND NOT THIS OTHER ONE.
WE'RE GOING CARRY OVER A HERE'S THE OTHER THING IS YOU HAVE THE NEXT THREE MONTHS THAT YOU'RE GONNA MAKE THAT 500 WHEN YOU 500,000 HAVE, WE'RE SITTING THERE NEXT YEAR ANYWAY.
WELL, AND THE OTHER THING IS, BY PAYING THESE, THESE THREE, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, THAT GETS IT BOOKS AT THE END OF OUR BUDGET YEAR, WHICH MAKES OUR, IF WE SELL THE REMAINING BONDS OR THE ROAD BONDS, WE'RE GONNA BE IN MUCH BETTER SHAPE IF WE HAVE OUR CREDIT.
AND UH, I'M JUST ASKING QUESTION ASKING.
WELL, I THINK WE HAVE THE MONEY WITHOUT BORROWING.
YEAH, I JUST, YOU KNOW, IT IS JUST I AGREE WITH YOU.
I TOLD Y'ALL Y'ALL HAVE ALREADY VOTED.
I, IT DIDN'T CLICK WITH ME UNTIL I WAS OUT AT LUNCH.
ANYTHING, THE MINDSET FOR THE REMAINDER HERE.
I DIDN'T GET TO FINISH WHAT I GOING TO SAY.
THE POINT WAS THAT MONEY WAS WENT AND BOARD AND PUT IN OUR BANK ACCOUNT WITHOUT THE COUNTY AUDITOR'S SIGNATURE AND WITHOUT THE COUNTY JUDGE KNOWING I'M THAT, THAT THAT PERSON CAME TO THIS COURT AND SAID, WE ARE NOT GONNA HAVE ENOUGH MONEY TO LAST THROUGH UNTIL OUR TAX MONEY COMES IN.
I NEED A LINE OF CREDIT FOR Y'ALL TO APPROVE.
THAT'S WHAT WENT, WAS BORROWED IN.
WELL, WE DIDN'T DIDN'T, IF I REMEMBER WE DIDN'T APPROVE IT.
NO, YOU HE WANTED THE ABILITY TO BORROW IF NECESSARY.
I NEVER YEAH, AND I NEVER KNEW IT WAS NECESSARY.
I I REMEMBER Y'ALL DISCUSSING, I WAS SITTING DOWN HERE, I REMEMBER Y'ALL MA SITTING BACK THINKING, WHY DON'T YOU JUST TAKE IT OUT THE ROAD? THE ACADEMY RUN SHORT.
BUT THE OTHER POINT IS WHEN LITTLE THINGS LIKE THAT'S BIG MILLION HUNDRED, 500,000, HALF A MILLION DOLLARS, THOSE THINGS LIKE THAT HAPPEN AND THEN YOU FIND OUT AFTER THE FACT, THEN THAT MAKES SOMEBODY THAT'S NEW THINK, WELL WHAT ARE THEY HIDING? WHY ARE THEY DOING THINGS THAT THEY DON'T SEE? AND IT MAKES IT LOOK BAD.
MAKES YOU NOT WANNA TRUST PEOPLE BECAUSE YOU THINK THEY'RE DOING SOMETHING.
I, THAT'S ALL I WAS JUST SAYING THAT I, I BELIEVE WE HAVE THE MONEY, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T DO THE WORK THROUGH OCTOBER, THROUGH JANUARY.
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IT ALL, YEAH.LAST YEAR YOU, IT STARTED FREEZING THIS YEAR.
THAT IT'LL BE, I DUNNO ABOUT Y'ALL, ABOUT MY MAXIMUM TODAY.
UH, WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO IS, BRIAN, WE WE SOME CHANGES TODAY INCORPORATE INTO THE BID TO THE BUDGET.
I THINK WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO BEING GO AHEAD AND INCORPORATE THE UH, EIGHT 50, THIS NOT LISTED AS SALARY.
SET IT ASIDE FOR BUDGET THAT WE'RE GONNA POST ON THE, UH, INTERNET TOTAL.
WE'LL GO AHEAD AND INCLUDE THAT IN, I'LL MAKE, I'LL MAKE A SECOND CONTING LINE ITEM.
IT'LL SAY CONTINGENCIES, UHSO SALARY.
SO ACTUALLY CONTINGENCY FUND BASED ON OUR CONTRACT WITH, I COULD SAY THE OTHER THING MORE THAN THAT, IT'S MORE IF YOU COUNT THE TAXES ON EVERYTHING AND WE'LL GET THIS POSTED AND I MEAN WE'LL BE, YOU KNOW, WE STILL HAVE 30 DAYS SO THERE'S, I DON'T KNOW ABOUT TAX HEARINGS YET OR YOU KNOW, HAVEN'T GOT ANY OF THAT STUFF, YOU KNOW.
BUT WE DO, UH, Y'ALL DO NEED TO SOMEHOW TALK ABOUT YOUR ROAD RIDGE, UH, PERSONNEL BECAUSE I THINK THERE BY WHAT I'VE LOOKED AT, THERE'S SOME PRETTY GOOD DISPARITIES ON WHAT ARE BEING PAID.
WE TALKED THAT WE'RE FIX THAT WE JUST NEED TO, UH, WE WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO HAVE A COURT MEETING.
I GUESS WE CAN DO THAT IN, WE GO AND TALK ABOUT PAY.
WE FIND OUT, I MEAN PAY, THAT'S A Y'ALL PAY FOR FOR ALL THE PEOPLE.
EVERYBODY'S SUPPOSED TO GET PAID.
JUST KNOW WHEN YOU WANNA DO THAT.
YOU APPROVED TO THE DA AND THE TWO, TWO ATTORNEYS.
I TOLD HER BECAUSE THEY REMOVED THAT WOULD NOT GET THE 1200.
SO Y'ALL KNOW, I MEAN CAR AMOUNTS, IS THAT FIGURED IN OR NOT? RIGHT NOW IT'S IN THE BUDGET, BUT I EXPECT ONCE WE GET A BIT MORE INFORMATION, UH, WE GET SOME OF THESE OTHER, WE'LL COME BACK AND WE'LL HAVE AT LEAST ONE MORE BUDGET WORKSHOP DURING THAT IN AUGUST SOMETIME.
UH, AND THEN WE'RE NOT GONNA ADOPT THE BUDGET OFFICIALLY PROBABLY UNTIL THAT FIRST MEETING IN AUGUST.
I MEAN, THAT'S KIND OF WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT TODAY.
SOME DIDN'T COME BACK THE SECOND ROUND.
MAYBE THERE MIGHT BE A LITTLE FIND OUT.
YOU'RE WELL, STEVE, THAT'S PRETTY, PRETTY LOW.
WHAT I YOU'RE NOT GONNA HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT GET AIRPLANE LOW BLOOD SUGAR.
I'LL, THERE'S, I THINK THERE'S, THERE'S GONNA BE ALL KINDS OF YEAH, THEY HAVE TO LOOK INTO SOME BRIDGE.
WE COULD BE A GUINEA PIG FOR SOME OF THESE OTHER COUNTIES AND CITIES, CARS, TESLA.
I'LL SEND, I PROMISE YOU, YOU'LL LOOK AND SEE IF,
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OKAY.DOES EVERYBODY KIND OF UNDERSTAND WHERE WE'RE AND WE'LL BE GETTING ANYBODY, ANYBODY GOT ANYTHING ELSE? WELL, MY, MY QUESTION IS, I KNOW JP EXTRA MONEY.
DID WELL HE HAD A, JOHNNY HAD SOMETHING ON HIS PAGER, BUT I DIDN'T SEE IT.
THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE GONNA EMAIL TO HIM.
MIKE, MIKE SMITH HAD ASKED FOR AN EXTRA 5,000 BUCKS.
OKAY, THAT'LL PUT HIM WITHIN $2,000.
THAT'LL DEFINITELY MAKE HIM MORE THAN COUNTY WHITE ELECTED.
AND WE GAVE THEM 6,000 SUPPLEMENT PLUS I HAD THE 1200 PLUS THEY GET TRAVEL PLUS THEY HAVE, UH, 1500 TO 2000 INQUEST TRAVEL.
SO Y'ALL NEED TO BE AWARE OF ALL THE BENEFITS THAT YEAH, WE WILL.
THAT'S WHAT WE'LL DO DURING THE INTERIM, YOU KNOW, DURING THE OFFICE.
AND NOT SAYING THAT THEY DON'T WORK HARD.
DON'T DESERVE, I'M NOT SAYING I DID, I DID THE MATH WHILE THEY WERE GIVING HER STEEL.
AND WE DID PUT IN THE OTHER DAY ALLOWANCE FOR THE TREASURER.
I THOUGHT WE WAS GETTING HIM A BICYCLE.
I THE, I WANTED THE SONIC MOON CHALLENGE ON FRIDAY.
THAT'S WHY I WALK THE WINGS BACK AND FORTH.
EVERYBODY, EVERYBODY CLEARED MUD? YEAH.