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IT'S GOT A GOOD LOBBY.MR. ALLEN, I'LL HAVE AN UPDATE FOR YOU ON THAT AFTER OUR HEARING THE 25TH AND WE'LL PROPERTY OUT PEOPLE DO BEFORE THEY BOUGHT IT.
THEY, THAT'S, THAT'S A CIVIL ISSUE.
ARE WE READY TO CALL OURSELVES BACK IN THE ORDER? SO WE'LL GO AHEAD AND AGAIN, I, I MADE A, HAD ANGIE MADE A COPY.
THIS IS, UH, LEGAL NOTICE THAT WE ARE REQUIRED TO, UH, PUT IN THE PAPER AND IT HAS TO GO IN, UH, THIS WEEK'S PAPER.
AND WE'VE GOT TILL, UH, NINE O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING TO GET TO.
AND IT DOES, WHEN WE CHANGE ANY OF THE ELECTED OFFICIAL SALARIES CHANGE, UH, YOU KNOW, I'M SAYING WE DO GO AHEAD AND DO WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT DOING HERE.
UH, IT HAS TO SHOW, SO THIS IS THE FORM THAT WE'LL USE THIS YEAR, AND WE'LL PROBABLY, UH, IT JUST HAS TO BE RUN ONE TIME AND ONE TIME ON THE SALARIES.
AND WE TYPICALLY DO THAT IN THE PAPER BECAUSE IT SAYS THE COUNTY, UH, OF A NEWSPAPER AS CLOSE AS THAT.
SO THESE ARE THE, THAT'S THE REASON TO MEET OUR TIMELINE TO ADOPT THIS THING.
YOU KNOW, LIKE WE TALKED ABOUT DOING SEPTEMBER.
UH, THAT'S WHERE WE NEED TO COME TO A RESOLUTION OF WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO ON.
SO, UH, THAT'S, UH, AND, UH, WHERE WERE WE WHEN WE BROKE OFF? I GOT, I CAN'T REMEMBER.
I KNOW WE HAVE SOME OTHER ATTORNEYS THAT ARE, I I JUST THINK CAN WE GET THAT? I DON'T HAVE YEAH, SOMEBODY CAN GET IT.
WELL, SINCE, SINCE HIS BOARD MET GAVE HIM THE INSTRUCTIONS THAT HIS BUDGET WOULD REMAIN THE SAME WITH THE SAME POSITIONS.
HE HAS MOVED AN ATTORNEY IN THAT POSITION.
THERE'S ONE IN THERE THAT HE HAS PROMOTED.
IT WAS, IT WAS FUNDED LAST YEAR, BUT HE JUST NEVER WAS ANYBODY HE HAS HIRED.
I HAVE IT ON THE SHEET IF YOU WANT.
HE, ON PAGE TWO OF THE, AND IN THAT MEETING HE ALSO, UH, ADVISED THAT HE WOULD BE TAKEN ON ABOUT A THIRD MORE CASE YES.
BUT IT WON'T HURT TO HEAR THAT FROM HIM.
AND YOU NEED TO UNDERSTAND TOO, COMMISSIONER DICK, THE CASE MANAGER POSITION AND UH, THERE'S ANOTHER POSITION.
I CAN'T THINK THE KNIFE RIGHT NOW.
THOSE ARE FUNDED BY GRANT AND BECAUSE HE DIDN'T HAVE ONE OF THOSE FILLED, WE DIDN'T GET ALL THE GRANT MONEY AND WE'VE BEEN ADVISED THAT WE NEED, IF WE'RE GONNA EXPECT THAT GRANT MONEY IN, HE HAS TO HAVE BOTH OF THOSE POSITIONS FILLED.
SO WE GET ADDITIONAL REVENUES AND HE MAY BE IN COURT THERE, ANSWER MAY NOT.
BUT I'M GLAD YOU POINTED THAT OUT BECAUSE I, I GUESS I JUST WELL, HE WAS WAITING FOR, UH, HE, HE WAS MORE LIKE A PARALEGAL CLERK AND HE HAD TO PASS HIS BAR EXAM BEFORE UH, HE COULD BE MOVED INTO THAT ASSISTANT PUBLIC DEFENDER'S
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POSITION.I JUST, THIS THE BITS AND PIECES.
WHAT I DON'T KNOW, I DON'T WORK WITH, HE'S LOOKING AT ME.
SINCE, HEY, REBECCA GONNA ASSIGNED.
I KNOW SHE THE DA, DO WE HAVE SPECIAL ATTORNEY? ANYTHING LIKE THAT? NO, I THINK THAT WAS BRIEF ON VERBALLY.
I THINK THE ONE THAT MY BOSS DOES IT, SHE JUST SEPARATES IT OUT INTO, JUST LIKE LAURA WOULD BE WITH DEPUTY CLERK OUT.
I THINK KAREN, BUT SHE SHOULD SHIFT IT LIKE THAT.
I DIDN'T KNOW IF WE NEEDED TO SET UP.
I DON'T THINK YOU, YOU SHOULD SIMPLY FOR, AND I MIGHT BE WRONG.
I'VE STUDIED LAW, BUT I'M NOT AN ATTORNEY.
SHE NEEDS TO BE UNDER THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY.
TO BE ABLE TO HANDLE ANY LEGAL ISSUES.
BUT SHE IS BUDGET, SHE'S BUDGETED IN THE DA'S OFFICE.
WITH HOW THE S ATTORNEY SEPARATE NOT GONNA BE WITH YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I MEAN.
IF SHE WANTS TO SET IT UP LIKE THAT, I CAN CREATE IT.
I DIDN'T KNOW SHE HADN'T TOLD ME THAT YET.
WELL, UH, I'VE ASKED, UH, UH, I COULD NOT FIND MY LETTERS, UH, FROM THE VARIOUS STATES.
AND THEN I WANT YOU TO SEE THIS, THIS NOTICE MEET DEADLINE, YOU KNOW, FOR BUDGET ON SEPTEMBER 2ND.
AND SO OBVIOUSLY THE REASON FOR THAT IS THAT WE PROPOSED SALARY SCHEDULE.
YOU KNOW, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WHATEVER WE WIND UP DOING, HOWEVER IT GOES.
WE JUST NEED TO TRY TO FIND SOME WAY TO MOVE.
WELL, TAX MONEY'S NOT IN BY EITHER.
WELL, IF THAT'S THE CASE, THEN WE WE'RE PRETTY WELL WE, WE WON'T BE ABLE TO DO ANYTHING.
I, I THINK I'VE RECEIVED THE ASSURANCE THAT I FEEL BETTER.
I FEEL, I FEEL, I FEEL STRENGTH AND COMFORTABLE.
DON'T GET ME WRONG, I FEEL COMFORTABLE ABOUT THIS, PRETTY MUCH ABOUT THIS WHOLE YEAR.
UH, MY BIGGEST HUGE CONCERN IS NEXT YEAR, I MEAN NEXT YEAR WE'VE COMMITTED TO 700,000 THIS VALUE, WE COMMITTED THIS MUCH IN, IN, UH, SALARIES.
ALMOST A WHOLE NEW REVENUE OF THIS YEAR IN NEW SALARIES.
IF WE DO THAT, THEN NEXT YEAR, WHAT HAPPENS IF WE DON'T HAVE IT OR IF ANYTHING HAPPENS OR ANYTHING AT THE END OF THE YEAR, MIDDLE OF THE YEAR, WHATEVER.
EVEN IF WE COULD SURVIVE THE YEAR NEXT YEAR, WE'RE AN EXTREME TROUBLE TO TRY TO, DO YOU SEE WHAT I'M SAYING? I MEAN, IT, IT, IT, IT'S NOT THAT, IT'S JUST, IT'S PUTTING, IT'S PUTTING, I MEAN IT REALLY IS.
IT'S, IT'S NOT A PERMANENT GIVEN MONEY.
SO WHAT'S, HOW ARE WE GONNA REPLACE THAT DOWN ROAD? I DON'T CARE IF IT'S THREE YEARS, FIVE YEARS, TWO YEARS, ONE NOW.
OTHER WORDS, I I WANT THEM TO HAVE ALL THE MONEY'S, NO QUESTION.
AND I'M A BIG LAW ENFORCEMENT GUY.
I THINK EVERYBODY RAISES EXTREMELY CONCERNED.
YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST A LOT OF IFS IT JUST MAKES HUGE IFS.
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NECESSARILY THIS YEAR, BUT THE NEXT IF OR MAYBE EVEN NEXT YEAR, YOU PERMANENT.WELL THE, THE MONEY YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, WE MADE ENOUGH TO MAKE OBVIOUSLY THE OF THE, AND WE'RE NOT SPENDING AT ALL THIS YEAR.
WE'VE STILL GOT, UH, AGAIN, THAT GONNA COME BACK THE NEXT YEAR.
IF WE LOST IT, WE STILL GONNA COME BACK THE NEXT YEAR.
700,000 WORTH SALARY INCREASE YEAR IN NEXT YEAR.
BUT THEN, I DUNNO, WHAT'S THE STEP, WHAT'S THE STEP RATE? WHAT'S THE STEP RANGE? WHAT'S THE AMOUNT, STEP RATE THE NEXT WOULD BE TWO 50 FOR NEXT YEAR.
NO, FOR THE NEXT, FOR WHICH IS A TOTAL NO MEAN, WHAT WOULD AMOUNT BE, ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE EIGHT 50 AT THE END OF THE YEAR? 50 YEAH.
WHAT'S NEXT YEAR? THE SECOND YEAR.
AND THEN THE THIRD DIFFERENT BECAUSE THAT'S WHEN EVERYBODY FALLS.
WHAT'S THE TOTAL AMOUNT OF THE MONEY? 2 MILLION.
THE RATE WE GO 2 MILLION, RIGHT? WHAT THE TOTAL AMOUNT OF THE DAMN MONEY.
HOW MUCH WILL WE BRING IN NEXT YEAR? KEEP IT GOING INTO, WE'RE GOING 2 MILLION.
I UNDERSTAND WHAT, YOU KNOW, I'M JUST, YOU KNOW, THIS IS JUST WHAT I, I'M JUST SAYING WHAT'S THE NET AFTER THE TWO? THE NET, THE NET THE NET'S GOING TO BE, YOU KNOW, IF IT'S, IF IT TURNS OUT TO BE DOWN TO 1,000,007, WELL THEN WE ONLY HAVE $50,000 EXTRA TO PLAY WITH.
I MEAN ADDITIONAL COMMON SENSE IN IT.
JUST REMEMBER WHEN I UPPED THE NUMBERS BY PERCENTAGES OF WHAT I IN OUR INCREASE WAS WOULD BE I BREAK DOWN SOME, MR. BALLPARK LOOKS LIKE MAYBE A HUNDRED THOUSAND.
AND I THINK WHEN YOU DO, YOU DO THE ADDITIONAL MONEY FOR THE ROAD BOND DEBT, I THINK IT'S WRITTEN IN THERE THAT YOU'RE GONNA THE PROPERTY TAX RATE BY PERCENT OR SOMETHING.
BUT YOU WON'T BE PAYING THAT OUT.
THE, I MEAN THAT'LL BE BECAUSE OF THE TAX PROPERTY.
WHICH IS WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THAT, UH, INCREASE IN THE LAYOUT, WHICH WOULD BE THE 21% IS WHAT WE INCREASE BY TAKING ON ALL 51.
YEAH, THAT'D BE FOR THIS NEXT, NEXT YEAR.
WELL, WHATEVER RUNS OUT PRETTY MUCH, UNLESS GOES BRIAN, LEMME ASK YOU WHY YOU IS, UH, YOU KNOW, MARSHAL EXPRESS, YOU KNOW, WE'D LIKE BRING, AND I KNOW Y'ALL ARE, YOU GOT A LOT OF PEOPLE THERE.
UH, HE WANTS WHATEVER COUNTY THEY'RE DEALING, EAST TEXAS.
HE REALLY WANTS TO GET BOTH PRISONERS CLOSER TO DALLAS.
AND SO I DON'T THINK ANYBODY'S QUESTIONING THAT.
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UNDERSTAND, I'M NOT QUESTIONING THAT.I, I'M JUST QUESTIONING I FOR FOUR YEARS.
YEAH, THEY'LL BE HERE BECAUSE AS LONG AS THERE'S OUTSTANDING INMATES EVERYWHERE ELSE, I BELIEVE THEY'LL BE HERE.
BECAUSE WE'VE GOT PLENTY OF GUYS BRING, DON'T POINT IT AT, I MEAN WITH ALL INMATES THAT PLACES, THEY'RE BRINGING THEM ALL TO US AS MANY AS WE CAN BECAUSE THEY CALL US ON A ROUTINE BASIS.
AND HOW MANY MORE CAN YOU TAKE? AND I THINK THAT'S ONE.
THIS ISN'T, THIS ISN'T ABOUT THAT.
IT'S ABOUT, AND I THINK WHERE WE ARE, IF ANYTHING WHATSOEVER AND YOU KNOW IT AND I KNOW WHAT ANYTHING CAN HAPPEN.
WE DON'T WANT ANYTHING TO HAPPEN.
IT'S JUST MORE THAN PROPERTY VALUE OUT.
EVERYTHING COULD DROPPED LIKE IT DID IN FOUR YEARS AND WE IN THE SAME BOAT WITH ALL THE PROPERTY VALUE, HAD THE PROPERTY VALUES FALL FOR, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING EVERYBODY KIND OF PREDICTING ALREADY AND THEN, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN HAVE A FIRE, YOU CAN HAVE ELECTRICAL FIRE WIPE OUT HALF YOUR, WE MIGHT HAVE TO SEND ALL THE PRISONERS MIGHT HAVE TO SEND OUR PRISONERS.
WE CAN GO ANYTHING SAYING I THINK WE ALL FEEL MORE COMFORTABLE IF WE BANK THE MONEY AND THEN BUDGET THAT MONEY THE NEXT, NEXT YEAR.
OTHER WORDS, INSTEAD OF OPERATING THE YEAR AND IN FRONT OF STAFF.
YEAH, LET'S OPERATE ON THE YEAR
THE ONLY THING I'LL SAY TO THAT IS DOWN THE YEARS WE'VE SEEN WHERE WE
WHEN WE TALKED THE VERY FIRST TIME WE TALKED ABOUT THIS CONTRACT, I BELIEVE COMMISSIONER, YOU SAID WE NEED TO PUT IT IN A PUBLIC SAFETY FUND OVER HERE AND IT'S ONLY USED FOR PUBLIC SAFETY.
AND THAT, AND THAT'S WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT.
BUT NOW WE HAVE DREAMED IT ACROSS FROM BUYING EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT AND THAT'S FINE.
I'M JUST TRYING TO DO THE IT THE SAME THING I SAID, I THINK THE MAJORITY OF THE MONEY TO GO BACK TO THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT, THE MONEY, WELL NOT ME.
THEY'RE THE ONES THAT'S DOING THE HEARTBEAT.
I'M JUST GIVING YOU, I JUST DON'T WANT SOMETHING THAT THIS WHOLE DEAL TAXPAYER PAYING.
BUT IF THE PEOPLE THERE NOT DOING IT, THE TAXPAYERS AIN'T GETTING MEAN WE GOT IN FRONT OF THE CAR.
YEAH, AND I, I MEAN THAT'S BUDGETING.
I'M AT THE FIRE, FIRE DEPARTMENT.
I DO THE SAME THING BECAUSE YOU KNOW, PROPERTY VALUES CAN CRASH AND WE GO HERE AND IT'S JUST, YOU DO THE BEST WHAT YOU CAN DO AND JUST, AND WHAT YOU GOT AND WHAT YOU LOOK AT AND YOU GO DO IT.
AND SOMETIMES IT BITES US IN THE REAR END AND SOMETIMES IT DON'T.
IT'S NOT JUST, IT'S NOT JUST YOU, IT'S, OH NO, IT'S WHOLE BUNCH OF IT IN HERE THAT IT'S EVERYBODY.
SO I MEAN THAT'S WHAT I'M PUTTING DOWN THERE.
EVERY ELSE, I MEAN I YOU SAID THE SAME THING THIS MORNING.
I MEAN I KNOW HOW WE CAN PUT IT IN STONE.
YOU KNOW, I'M GONNA PUT, IT HAPPENS THE YEAR AFTER.
NOT PROBABLY VALUES WENT DOWN THIS YEAR IF WE HAD, YOU KNOW, A MILLION OR A MILLION A QUARTER OR WHATEVER IN THE BANK, 2 MILLION, THE BANK, WHATEVER ALREADY SOME, YOU KNOW, IS COST.
I KNOW HOW MUCH, I DUNNO HOW MUCH IS THE, THE UH, HOW THE TOTAL FOR WHAT? TOTAL PAY.
I THINK THE WHOLE, THE WHOLE THING ACROSS THE WHOLE COUNTY IS THE WAY I'M STANDING.
WHAT I'M SAYING IS IF YOU CUT OUT 700,000 ON A PAY RAISE, WE STILL, WE'RE STILL 900,000 LEANING ON IT.
AND THAT, TO ME, THAT'S TOO MUCH.
AND I THINK IF WE LEANED ON FOURTH OATH WOULD BE SOMETHING IN OUR LIMITS.
IT'S $500,000 WE'RE GONNA GAIN IN VALUES 800 OR 900,000 PER YEAR.
WE'RE ONLY PREDICTING HALF OF OUR NEW VALUE.
SOMETHING DIDN'T HAPPEN, NOT DOUBLE OUR FOR THE NEXT TWO YEARS.
SEE WHAT I'M SAYING? I MEAN SOMETHING I WISH I COULD THINK OF SOMETHING ELSE.
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YOU SAY OR WHAT YOU DO, BUT WELL, UH, AS I'VE MENTIONED TO YOU BEFORE, THE, THE REASON I MADE THE PERSONAL PHONE CALL TOO, I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND THAT.IT DOESN'T STOP THE, IT DOESN'T STOP.
WHAT WAS IT, THAT COUNTY, WHAT'S THAT OTHER COUNTY THAT A CONTRACTOR, THEY HAD A LITTLE RIOT THAT LOST ALL THEIR CAMERON COUNTY AND THEN THEY LOST AND THEY'RE STEALING ALL THEY'RE TRYING TO WORK OUT OF IT.
THEY GOT A 28% HOLE IN THEIR BUDGET.
SO I MEAN, YOU KNOW, BUT, BUT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE HERE AND HAVE PHYSICAL RESPONSIBILITY TO THE TAX HOLDERS AND I JUST DUNNO IF THAT'S BEING PHYSICALLY RESPONSIBLE.
AND WE, WE'LL GO FOR EMPLOYEES COUNTY, SAME THING.
RESPONSIBLE OF NOT TRYING TO DO SOMETHING TO HELP RETAIN OUR EMPLOYEES.
I WANT, WE DON'T WANT YEAH, BUT I MEAN I, I DON'T KNOW.
I DON'T, I DON'T HAVE THE ANSWER HERE.
I'M JUST SAYING THE WAY I FEEL AT THIS MINUTE ABOUT THIS MONEY SITTING THERE IN THE BUDGET, IF IT WAS JUST SITTING THERE IN THE BANK, I'D BE, THEY BE, AND THAT'S WHERE WE'VE BEEN A YEAR FROM NOW, THEN AT LEAST YOU HAVE THAT YEAR PAID FOR.
SO IT GIVES YOU A WHOLE YEAR TO WORK WITH IT.
THAT'S WELL, I MEAN, SO YOU BELIEF IS IS THAT WE SHOULD NOT BUDGET ANY OF THE FEDERAL MARSH REVENUE.
I SAID I WOULDN'T, I WOULDN'T FEEL COMFORTABLE DOING MORE THAN A QUARTER OF IT BECAUSE IF WE DO 2 MILLION, IF YOU SAY 2 MILLION, THAT'S 500,000.
UH, THAT'S HALF, ROUGHLY HALF OF WHAT WE DO THE NEW
SO IF SOMETHING HAPPENED, AT LEAST YOU'RE ONLY DOWN HALF NEXT YEAR.
CAN, BUT I DON'T KNOW WHERE YOU GO AS OFFICER THAT FIGURE THAT OUT.
WELL THAT'S WHAT I'M JUST LISTENING.
I'M JUST NORMAL SCHOOL TEACHER.
SO I'M, I'M GOING BACK TO WHAT I SHOWED YOU OR ONLY I KNOW IS TO SHOW YOU THE PICTURE AND WHETHER THEY'RE GOOD OR NOT.
BUT LET'S GO BACK TO PAGE FIVE.
ALRIGHT, LET'S, LET'S GO BACK UP.
AND THIS IS, I MEAN, GUYS, THIS IS THE WAY WE NEED TO DISCUSS THE BUDGET.
WELL I, WE ALL NEED TO, WE ALL NEED TO HAVE A CLEAR UNDERSTANDING.
LOOK AT THE, UH, LOOK AT THE, UH, THE GENERAL FUND SUMMARY ON, AT THE TOP OF THE PAGE AND YOU WILL SEE, UH, IF YOU LOOK AT THE SECOND COLUMN, UH, FROM THE, UH, RIGHT WHERE IT SAYS YEAR TO DATE, 2015 AND THE DATE IS AUGUST THE 13TH.
NOW IF YOU GO DOWN TO THE BOTTOM OF PAGE FIVE, THAT'S ON PAGE FOUR.
IF YOU'LL SEE THE EXPENDITURES START ABOUT MIDWAY THROUGH ON PAGE FOUR.
AND IF YOU'LL GO DOWN TO THE BOTTOM OF THE UH, PAGE THERE, YOU'LL SEE THAT OUR EXPENDITURES DATE HAVE BEEN 29 MILLION OH SIX EIGHT.
SO THAT SHOWS THAT WE ARE AHEAD OF THIS YEAR'S BUDGET BY 4,000,870.
IN OTHER WORDS, WE'RE IN THE BY 4,873,000.
THAT'S MONEY THAT'S ACTUALLY BEEN RECEIVED.
NOW WE'VE STILL GOT THE MONTH OF, UH, AUGUST AND SEPTEMBER, DECEMBER.
WELL, WE'RE GOING HAVE MORE MONEY IN THE BANK THIS YEAR THAN YOU'VE EVER HAD.
WELL THAT'S, THAT'S BECAUSE THAT'S JUST YEAR TO DATE.
I MEAN YOU TAKE IN ACCOUNT ROAD AND BRIDGE, WE'VE GOT A LOT OF MONEY TO SPEND BETWEEN NOW LEVEL.
WE STILL, WE STILL HAVE MONEY TO COLLECT.
AND OUR EXPENSES THAT WE HAVE WHAT, THREE MORE PAYROLL? THREE THREE PAYROLLS IN THE LAST FEW DAYS? WELL, I GUESS WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY IS RIGHT NOW THIS SHOWS THAT WE'VE GOT $4 MILLION THAT IS NOT SPENT AND WE'RE GONNA SPEND SOME I'M NOT AND THIS IS JUST 3 MILLION.
YEAH, WELL, AND, BUT WE'RE GOING BE COLLECTING MONEY BECAUSE
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HE'S STILL, WE'VE GOT MONEY OUT THERE.BUT CAN, CAN I SAY SOMETHING? YES.
YOU JUST SITTING HERE, SITTING HERE LOOKING AT THIS AND LOOKING AT THE NUMBERS IN WHICH, YOU KNOW, YOU SEE THAT OVER WITH, WE ONLY TALKING ABOUT SEVEN.
I BELIEVE THERE'S ENOUGH THAT'S GONNA FALL OVER IN THIS EXTRA COVER THAT'S OUT ACROSS THE BOARD FOR ALL OF THEM.
YOU MEAN IN THE LAST THREE MONTHS? YES.
I MEAN IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT 4 MILLION, WHAT YOU, THAT 81,000? YEAH, YOUR HONOR, TALKING ABOUT 700,000 TO IMPLEMENT THIS ACROSS THE DEAL PLUS THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE STEP, THAT FIRST INITIAL DEAL, THERE'S ENOUGH TO SUPPORT THAT WITH THE EXCESS OVER.
AND WE ARE UNDERSPENDING SIGNIFICANTLY IN SOME AREAS AS WELL.
WE'RE NOT OVERSPENDING, WE'RE OVERSPENDING IN SOME AREAS IN THE GENERAL FUND, BUT A LOT OF THE GENERAL, WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT OVER.
SO AGAIN, NOW YOU'VE GOT, HERE IT IS THE MIDDLE OF, UH, MIDDLE OF AUGUST.
UH, THESE NUMBERS ARE PRETTY FRESH AND WE'VE GOT WHAT, UH, HALF OF AUGUST, SEPTEMBER.
AND WE, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT, HERE'S THE BIGGEST PAYROLL, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE'VE GOT.
BUT WE, WE, WE'VE UNDER BUDGETED WHAT I THOUGHT WE WOULD GET ON REVENUE THIS YEAR PURPOSE.
SO THAT WE WOULD INCREASE OUR, FOR VERY REASONS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, ABOUT UH, TRYING TO GET OUR BOND, YOU KNOW, GET OUR CREDIT BACK BETTER.
LIKE, AND WE'RE MAKING GREAT PROGRESS.
UH, SO, SO I MEAN I I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND STEVE, WHAT YOU'RE SAYING AND JENNY AND, AND ALL THAT.
I, I JUST, I I'M NOT, I JUST, I THIS WILL WORK.
I WOULD NEVER PROPOSE SOMETHING.
UH, I I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU WOULD NO, I UNDERSTAND.
UNDERSTAND WHERE YOU'RE GOING.
THERE'S NO, THERE'S NO PROBLEM.
I DON'T WANT US TO GET BACK BY WORK.
NOBODY WANTS TO BE UPSIDE DOWN.
THAT'S BASICALLY, YOU KNOW, CAR.
WE DON'T NEED TO BE, YOU KNOW, NOT, AND I UNDERSTAND SAME DISCUSSIONS GOING ON ACROSS 254 COUNTIES.
THERE'S SOME OF 'EM THAT GOT EIGHT HAS EIGHT PEOPLE IN IT.
DON'T MID MIDLAND WHEN THEY HAD WHAT, I FORGET HOW MANY MILLION SURPLUS SEVEN BEHIND THERE.
BUT LOOKING AT THIS, AND EVEN KAREN, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG WITH THIS AND THE VALUATION OF THAT, THIS WOULD OFFSET THE RAISE ACROSS THE COUNTY PLUS THE STEP FOR THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE, THE FIRST STEP OF THAT.
AND WE WOULDN'T HAVE TO BE WORRIED ABOUT THAT MONEY IF IT DID NOT COME IN.
YOU TALKING ABOUT THE EXCESS THAT WE HAD? YEAH.
IF EVERYBODY QUIT SPENDING MONEY.
AND I, AND I'LL TELL YOU NOW, YOU KNOW, I CAN SHOW YOU A MEMO I PUT OUT THE OTHER DAY THAT ALL SPENDING HAS TO BE APPROVED BY CHIEFS.
I SENT HIM AN EMAIL AND SAID YOU NEED TO STOP SPENDING THE MONEY.
DID I NOT JUDGE? AND WE YOU DID.
SO WE COULD ADD TO THE FUND BALANCE, BUT I THINK WE CAME TO AN AGREE THAT THE COMMISSION UNDERSTANDING.
YEAH, WELL WE, WE ALWAYS, AT THIS TIME OF YEAR WE PUT SOMETHING OUT AND SAY HEY, AND WE CAN DO THAT.
THIS IS STUFF THAT SPECIALTY STUFF STUFF HERE.
BECAUSE MY BIGGEST GRIP BY SEE IS JUST S MONEY IN THERE.
I GOT A PROBLEM WITH THAT ONE NOW I UNDERSTAND.
WE'VE GOTTA ALWAYS PLAN FOR THE WORST, EXPECT THE BEST.
AND SOMETIMES WE'LL HAVE A LITTLE, LITTLE MONEY LEFT OVER.
YOU KEEP SAYING Y WELL YOU, YOU KNOW WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT MEAN.
BUT, BUT WHEN WE DO THAT, I MEAN THAT'S, THAT'S WHEN WE DON'T OUT THERE.
WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT GONNA DO THAT.
AND IF WE GIVE BACK MONEY, I THINK THAT'S A GOOD STEWARD OF THE PEOPLE MONEY.
THAT'S WHAT WE SHOULD BE DOING NOW TO GET CUT NEXT YEAR IS GOING DOWN.
'CAUSE SOMETIMES OUR CIRCUMSTANCES, IF YOU'LL LOOK IN OUR TRAINING BUDGET FOR THE JAIL, WE'VE BEEN SHORTHANDED AND EVERYBODY ELSE, WE HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO SEEN A LOT OF PEOPLE.
I'D LOVE TO SPEND MORE MONEY ON TRAINING PEOPLE, BUT GUESS WHAT WE DON'T NEED TO DO HERE.
BUT GUESS WHAT, THAT'S MONEY WE'RE GONNA GIVE BACK.
DON'T YOU HAVE YOUR OWN TRAINING? YEAH, YEAH.
I MEAN WE DO THAT BUT STILL WE, WE'VE GOTTA SEND OUT FOR SOME STUFF.
AND WE USUALLY TRY TO WELL WE DO.
SO I MEAN IT GIVES AND TAKE, BUT JUST BECAUSE THE MONEY'S IN THERE DON'T MEAN WE SHOULD GO.
SO, AND THAT'S, THAT'S MY BIG DEAL IS ALSO LOOKING AT THAT.
I THINK IT WOULD OFFSET THAT ACROSS THE BOARD AND THEN THE FEDERAL MONEY WOULD BE EXTRA MONEY AND
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YOU'RE NOT PAYING BETWEEN THE, BETWEEN NOW AND, AND THE UH, START OF THE BUDGET YEAR.ARE WE GONNA BANK SIX TO HAVE 1,000,006 LEFT? IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE ASKING? I WOULD HAVE TO REALLY RUN THE NUMBERS TO BE ABLE TO TELL YOU THAT WE'VE, WE BUDGET.
NO, I'M SAYING WHAT, WHAT, WHAT'S A PROJECTED FUND? SEE, I DUNNO, WE'RE PROBABLY A LITTLE BIT AWAY FROM THAT BEFORE WE GET CLOSE BECAUSE, UH, WE, WE CARRIED, WE INCREASED OUR FUND BALANCE THIS YEAR.
AND I'M NOT SAYING I SPEND, BUT IT WAS LIKE 2.2 MILLION OR 2.7 OR SOMETHING.
BUT WE'VE GOT, WE'VE GOT MONEY IN THE FUND BALANCE THAT WE DON'T WANNA TOUCH.
BUT IF SOMETHING THAT ALL FELL APART, WE'VE GOT MONEY TO MAKE THE BUDGET.
PLUS WE CAN DO LIKE WE DID THAT FIRST YEAR THAT I WAS HERE, MAN, WE, WE CAN START CUTTING BACK BIG TIME NOT TO PUT A HIRING FEE, PUT A HIRING FREEZE ON OR AS BEST AS WE CAN.
IT'S HARD FOR COUNTIES TO PUT ON HIRING FREEZE.
BUT WE CAN DO SOME THINGS LIKE THAT.
AND THAT'S WHAT WE DID BEFORE.
BUT, BUT OUR OUTSIDE AUDITOR SAID WE NEED TO ZONE.
BUT I MEAN, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WHAT IF, YOU KNOW, WHAT IF HAPPENED? WHAT IF ALL, YOU KNOW, EVERYTHING WENT, THAT'S WHAT DOESN'T HAVE TO DO.
I DON'T THE ANSWER TO MAKE PEOPLE RIGHT.
AND THAT'S WHY, I MEAN, LOOKING AT THAT NUMBER AND TALKING WITH HER, HER'S ENOUGH TO OFFSET THAT SALARY MONEY TO PROTECT THAT AND YOUR CONCERN.
THAT'S ONE OF THE, THAT I CAME IN SAYING THAT I.