* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. CALLED OUT THE [00:00:01] BILL TONIGHT, JUST LIKE YOUR GUYS DOING THIS YEAR. MORE SO, BUT YOU KNOW, EVERYTHING'S RELATIVE TO THE JOB. BUT WHAT I'M SAYING IS OUR GUYS ARE STILL GUYS THAT HAVE BEEN THERE A LONG TIME AND HAVE A LOT OF TALENTS. YOU KNOW, THEY'RE WAY BELOW A STARTING TICKET. SO THAT WAS LIKE FRIDAY AFTERNOON, ABOUT EIGHT O'CLOCK, GET A CALL THERE, A DEAD, UH, CAB ON ON THE ROAD AND, AND SO CALLED, CALLED ONE OF THESE GUYS. THEY WENT, GOT THE TRACTOR, THEY WENT DOWN. GOT IT. THEY TOOK IT UP. THAT WAS REALLY THE FIRST JOB. GO OUT AND PICK IT UP. THE ANIMAL CONTROL. SO WE DID THIS JOB FOR, IT WAS A DEAD OF WHAT? A DEAD CALF? CALF. WE NEVER PICKED UP A CALF BUT PICKED UP CONTROL WAS UNDER, BUT WE STILL GO OUT AND PICK UP THE ANIMALS AND WE WORKED WITH THEM BEFORE. YOU KNOW WHO PICKED UP CAMP? I DUNNO WHO PICKED THEM UP, BUT 1200 AND UH, FOR EVERY, EVERY EVERYBODY SET ROAD BRIDGE, THAT ROAD BRIDGE SET THEIR OWN S ADJUSTING AND I'D SAY BANK THE REST MONEY. AND ABOUT THIS TIME NEXT YEAR, WE'LL SEE WHAT WE GOT. WE DECIDED TO COIN, HEY, WE GOT THE MONEY, LET'S GIVE THEM TO EIGHT PEOPLE. NO PROBLEM. CAN WE DO THAT? UM, I'S GONNA GET TO THE NEXT QUESTION. YEAH. FOR THE NEXT YEAR. OCTOBER, SHE'S NOT TALKING A BONUS. I THAT BE THE TO I WAS UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT WE COULD NOT DO THAT BECAUSE IT WOULD APPEAR TO BE A BONUS. YOU, YEAH. YOU HAVE TO DO IT WITHIN YOUR NEXT BUDGET CYCLE OR AMEND YOUR BUDGET. ONE OF THE, AND IT'D BE BETTER. YEAH. YOU, YOU CAN, IF YOU GOT TO THAT POINT AND YOU WANTED TO, IN THE SPRING TIME, YOU'RE STILL GENERAL RESERVE DECIDED AMEND BUDGET, THE SAFET WAY TO DO IT, IT'S STILL GONNA GET THEIR MONEY. YOU KNOW, THAT FALLS THROUGH, IT'S GONNA BE EXACT SAME THING. IT'S JUST THAT WE'RE NOT ALLOCATED, WE'RE NOT PROMISING WE DID THAT. I'VE ALREADY GOT THAT WORK IN THE BUDGET. 12, THE EIGHT 50, JUST FOUR SAIL. IF Y'ALL ARE COMFORTABLE WITH THE WAY WE CAN, THAT CAN GO BOTH WAYS. THE WAY I'M LOOKING AT IT, YOU'RE DOING THAT TOWARDS THE END THEN THAT EIGHT 50 GO TOWARDS THE END, DO IT AT THE END OF IF YOU WANNA DO THAT, BUT ALSO IT, IT CAN BE DONE AS A HIRING BONUS ALSO. I DON'T THINK BONUS. WELL IT'S NOT, I MEAN YOU WOULDN'T CALL IT A BONUS, BUT INCENTIVE THAT WHEN YOU COME TO WORK, SAY IN THE MIDDLE OF THE YEAR, SAY THE MIDDLE OF THE YEAR, WE KNOW THIS AND WE KNOW THIS IS IF THE MONEY'S THERE, YOU CAN TELL BRAND NEW EMPLOYEES, THIS IS THE BASE PAY GOT THE 1200 IN, BUT AT THE END OF THE YEAR, THEY'RE GONNA GIVE EIGHT 50 IF IT'S THERE ACTUALLY SIX MONTHS. NO, NO, WE CAN'T LAW. YEAH, WE CAN'T DO MERIT. BUT WE CAN. AND THEN WHEN THEY QUALIFIED, LIKE GET A, AND THEN YOU PAID UNDER AND THEN IF THEY BECAME MORE QUALIFIED AND THEN YOU BUMPED A MONTH, BUT YOU STILL BUDGET FOR THAT HIGHER AMOUNT AND JUST NOT LIKE THE STEP PROGRAM, WHAT WE'RE TALKED ABOUT. BUT YOU CAN'T DO IT AS JUST A, A BONUS WITHOUT ANY TYPE OF POLICY. LIKE YEAH. HOW YOU GUYS ARE SAYING YOU GONNA DO THIS CAP PROGRAM AND THEY, THEY HAVE THE CDL, THEN YOU GET THE MONTH. THAT'S A POLICY. YOU DEFINITELY WRITE IT DOWN, MAKE SURE THAT IT'S, YOU WRITE IT AS POLICY. OKAY. BUT THEN IT DOESN'T BECOME A BONUS. LIKE, OKAY, SO THEY COULD GET 1200 THAT WE'RE GONNA GIVE SOME THE, AND THEN WE ALSO BUDGET FOLKS THAT ARE HERE AT CERTAIN, CERTAIN DAY GET AN ADDITIONAL 50. IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? YOU HAVE TO DO IT ACROSS THE BOARD. [00:05:01] ENFORCEMENT HAS TO BE ACROSS THE BOARD. WELL, WHATEVER. BUT YOU ON SALARY RIGHT NOW, THEN YOU COULD, UM, BUDGET FOR IT, NOT SPEND IT. AND THEN IF EVERYTHING'S OKAY, THEN TAKE IT OUT WAY SOMETHING FAILED. WE CAN TAKE IT BACK OUT, SAY NO EIGHT 50. YEAH, THAT'S, I'VE BEEN WHAT I'M ASKING FIGURE ALL THIS. YEAH, WE WE'VE LOOKED AT IT BEFORE. I, I I PULL HAVE IT ON MY EMAIL. OKAY. THE EQUIPMENT, YOU WOULDN'T EVEN HAVE TO AMEND THE BUDGET. YOU WOULDN'T HAVE TO. YEAH, IT WOULDN'T HAVE BECAUSE I'VE, ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS JUST DOWN BEGINNING. EVERYBODY AGREE? ALRIGHT, HERE Y'ALL, EVERYBODY KIND OF FOCUS OVER HERE. OKAY. WHAT WE'LL DO, CORRECT EVERYBODY. AND THEN AS FAR AS THE JAIL EMPLOYEES AND LAW ENFORCEMENT EMPLOYEES, AND I THINK WE NEED TO LOOK AT CONS, BIOMARKERS, ALL OF THAT. I THINK WE NEED TO INCLUDE THOSE AS WELL. AND THAT SECOND, UH, WE WOULD BUDGET FOR IT LINE NINE. AND THEN THAT WOULD BE GIVEN AT A DAY LATER. NEXT. YEAH. TO BE DETERMINED. YEAH. BUT IT WOULD BE BUDGETED FOR AND YOU MOVE IN COMMISSIONER'S COURT IN THE AGENDA TO GRADE THAT SALARY AMOUNT AND THAT YOU'VE GOT IT 20 TRANSCRIBED. I ONLY DID, I ONLY DID THE SHERIFF, THE UH, JAIL, THE TELECOMMUNICATION AND THE SRO OFFICERS. I DIDN'T INCLUDE NONE. ONE THING IS COMMUNICATIONS. THE ARE GONNA BE PAYING, YOU KNOW, THE OPERATION OF THAT COMMUNICATION. ARE THEY GONNA BE COMFORTABLE WITH GIVING IF IT'S GONNA COST THE, WELL I, WE LAST, I I ALL THAT IN DID ALRIGHT. AND THEY DIDN'T HAVE A PROBLEM. THE ONLY PROBLEM IS, YOU KNOW, WE'RE STILL CLOSE. HOW MANY EXTRA YOU TALKING ABOUT? NO, THEY'RE ALL INCLUDED. I DIDN'T EVEN, THEY'RE WITH US AND I JUST PUT THAT OUT THERE BECAUSE THEY ARE ONE AND THE COURT MAY NOT WANT TO DO THAT. I THINK YOU WOULD AGREE WHERE THE, WHERE THE DISPARITY WOULD COME IN. WE'RE A DIFFERENT ENTITY THAN THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE. UH, CONSTABLES ARE A DIFFERENT ENTITY. YOU HAVE TO MAINTAIN THE PARITY WITHIN THAT DIVISION OR THAT DEPARTMENT FOR THE JOB FUNCTIONS. AND THAT'S WHAT CHIEF PETERSON LED TO YOU. A DEPUTY IS A DEPUTY IS A DEPUTY BECAUSE THEY ALL WORK FOR THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE AND THEY ALL WORK RESPONSIBLE FOR THE SAME FUNCTIONS BASE. BASICALLY US BEING, EVEN THOUGH WE'RE A LAW ENFORCEMENT ENTITY, WE'RE NOT UNDER THEM. SO WE, THAT'S WHERE THE DISPARITY CAN, WE WON'T MAKE THE SAME MONEY THAT THEY DO, BUT EVERYONE WITHIN, THAT'S WHY MY TWO DEPUTIES ARE MAKING THE SAME MONEY. UNLESS YOU KNOW, LIKE CHAD HAS THE OTHER RESPONSIBILITY OF THE FIRE, BUT TAKE AWAY THAT THEY'RE BOTH THE SAME AND SAME WOULD APPLY WITH THE CONSTITUTION THEN THEIR ENTITIES. THERE HAS TO BE PARITY BUT NOT BETWEEN ENTITIES. CORRECT. GOTCHA. OKAY. SO WHAT WHAT YOU TO DO DOESN'T HAVE TO BE DECIDED. YOU TALKING ABOUT RAISING ALL THE OTHER WELL, I WAS JUST SAYING THAT I KNOW THAT'S GONNA COME UP. THEY'RE GONNA GET THE 12 DECIDE. [00:10:11] YEAH. HERE'S THE THING ABOUT THIS. SURE. WHAT YOU, DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING ELSE? NO MA'AM. OKAY. JUST MAKING SURE I UNDERSTAND IS IS THAT THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE WILL DO IT 1200 ACROSS THE BOARD. I CAN TALK HOW LONG EIGHT 50 WILL BE IN ANOTHER LINE ITEM AND WHEN THE MONDAY GETS THERE, BE DECIDED RIGHT THEN THEY BE DECIDED LATER DATE TO RECEIVE THAT EIGHT 50. IS THAT CORRECT? YES. ARE YOU GOOD? YES SIR. Y'ALL ARE HAPPY ON CONTACT. JUST GIVE THEM SOMETHING TO TRY TO MAINTAIN SOME EMPLOYEES IF WE CAN. THAT'S WHAT I SAID, SOMETHING TO LOOK AT. THAT'S WHAT WE, OKAY. NOW AS FAR AS THE UH, UH, ELECTED OFFICIALS, THIS IS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE DO. DEFINITELY THIS IS IT ONLY HE'S PUSHING IT. DO YOU HAVE YOUR C YEAH, ME TOO. THEY SENT ME A NOTE ASK. WELL THAT TO CONFLICT WITH WHAT YOU SAID EARLIER. CAN I CLARIFY THAT? SURE. OKAY, GOOD. THAT RAISE MY, THIS THE, UM, THIS, THIS BASICALLY WAS JUDGE WILEY AND IT SAYS THAT THE JAMES COUNTY ARE R TO COLLECT AND RECEIVE FUNDS. AND I, MAYBE THIS IS NOT CLEAR. HERE'S THE COMPONENTS OF THE COLLECTIONS PROGRAM, WHICH GO A LONG WAY FROM TAKING SOMEBODY'S MONEY. YOU'LL JUST PASS THEM OUT TAKING SOMEONE'S MONEY AND RECEIVING IT AND GOING DOWN YOUR, NOW MARIE THAT WAS MENTIONED IN THIS WAS BASICALLY AT THE TIME THE COLLECTIONS DEPARTMENT WAS DOING A HANDLING PLAN, DOING THE COMPONENTS OF THE, THE COLLECTIONS DEPARTMENT. HOWEVER, THEY WERE RECEIVING MONEY, THEY WERE NOT BOND IT AND THEY WERE NOT ALLOWED BY STATUTE TO TAKE MONEY. AND SO WE GOT JUDGE WILEY AND SAID IT'S THE DUTIES OF THE CLERK TO RECEIVE MONEY, TO RECEIVE IT, TO COLLECT IT, AND TO RECEIVE IT. AND WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE DIFFERENCE, I MEAN THE COLLECTIONS PROGRAM, YOU HAVE TO HAVE DEDICATED STAFF, YOU HAVE TO MONITOR COMPLIANCE, YOU HAVE TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, REPORTING. YOU HAVE TO DO THE APPLICATION AND VERIFY THE CONTACT INFORMATION, SET THE PAYMENT TERMS, CALL THEM WHEN THEY'RE 30 DAYS PAST DUE MAIL A LETTER AND THEIR 30 DAYS HAS DUE. SEND THEM A LETTER BEFORE YOU SEND IT OUT. SEND OUT A PROFILE. THERE'S MUCH MORE INVOLVED IN THE COLLECTIONS PROGRAM THAN THE COUNTY CLERK RECEIVING OF FINDING COURT COSTS. I DUNNO, I I, HE SAID THAT MY LETTER CONFLICTED THAT I SAID IT WAS THE COLLECTIONS PROGRAM DID NOT FALL UNDER THE STATUTE OF THE COUNTY COURT. AND I THINK THE ONLY THING THAT'S CHANGED SINCE THIS IS THE, THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT OR THE CODE OF CRIMINAL PROCEDURES NOW HAS ALLOWED THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT WHO HAS A COLLECTIONS PROGRAM TO RECEIVE MONEY. BUT THAT WAS AFTER THIS 2011 PROGRAM. SO DOES THAT MAKE, DID THAT CLEAR IT UP FOR YOU, JUDGE? WELL IT DOES. WHILE I SAY IT DOES, IT WAS BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION THAT YOU'D INDICATED THAT IT WAS NOT A RESPONSIBILITY OF YOUR OFFICE RECEIVING THE MONEY IS THE RESPONSIBILITY OF MY OFFICE. THE COLLECTIONS IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM IS THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE COUNTY, COUNTY. THE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS MUST SET UP A COLLECTIONS IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM, WHICH IS WHAT YOU'RE DOING. YES, BUT DUTY WELL YOU'VE BEEN DOING LAB, RIGHT? YOU'VE BEEN DOING THAT SINCE LAST YES. BUT YOUR JOB DESCRIPTION, THAT IS NOT A, THAT IS NOT ASSIGNED TO THE COUNTY CLERK. THE ONLY THING THIS LETTER SAYS IS, I'M RESPONSIBLE FOR RECEIVING MONEY BECAUSE MY CLERKS ARE BONDED TO RECEIVE MONEY AND THE COLLECTIONS PROGRAM UNDERNEATH THE TREASURER AND THE DIS AND THE COUNTY LAW WERE NOT [00:15:01] BOUNDED OR NOT ALLOWED BY STATUTE TO WE IT TO YOU AT HER REQUEST. AND I APPRECIATED HER DOING IT WHEN SHE DID THAT. RIGHT. BUT I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND WHAT THIS LETTER WAS HANDED OUT, SO I WAS JUST TRYING TO CLARIFY THE PROGRAM. WELL IT FOR CLARIFICATION AND YOU, YOU I GUESS HAVE CLARIFIED THAT IT'S NOT PART OF YOUR RESPONSIBILITIES. THERE'S, THERE'S A PROGRAM, SO OTHER COUNTY FIRMS DO NOT COLLECTIONS, DEPARTMENT'S DEPARTMENT DIFFERENCE BETWEEN COLLECTING FEES AND COSTS AND BEING COLLECTION COLLECTION TWO DIFFERENT. YEAH. AND SO WHAT YOU'RE REQUESTING IS, IS THAT YOU RECEIVE A SUPPLEMENT FOR THAT, WHAT, 6,000? I THINK SHE ASKED. LET'S PUT THE DIFFERENCE. WE BETTER MOVE ON HERE. WE AGREE. AND SO THAT WILL AFFECT THIS. AGAIN, THAT WOULD BE IN THIS NOTICE TOO. SO I WANT YOU TO BE AWARE OF THAT. ALRIGHT, INTERESTING DISCUSSION. WELL, LET'S GO BACK TO, UH, WHERE WE WERE EARLY. I, I APPRECIATE YOUR DEVELOPMENT AND UH, MANNER IN WHICH YOU, UH, DISCUSSED IT. SO, UH, OTHER QUESTIONS ON THE BUDGET THAT WE'RE TRYING TO WORK THROUGH? I'M GOOD. EVERYBODY UNDERSTAND THE TIMEFRAME THAT WE'RE ON THAT THAT'S I GUESS BEFORE WE GET OFF. SO I KNOW YOU AND, AND, UH, BUT UH, I, I, I JUST, IT'S THERE. I MEAN I, I FEEL COMFORTABLE. I THE SAME THING. WHY DO YOU, WHY DO YOU BUY INSURANCE? YOU'RE SURE? AND I'LL CHECK ON INSURANCE. I KNOW BUSINESSES DO HAVE, SO IT MIGHT, I WILL CHECK AT LEAST. AND THAT MAY NOT, THEY MAY I TELL YOU TAX PRETTY GOOD. ALRIGHT. I WANTED TO, UH, I'D ASKED AND I, THEY'RE NOT HERE. I ASKED FOR, UH, I'D ASKED FOR, UH, CONSTABLE JOHNSON TO COME OVER AND EXPLAIN A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THAT. UH, IF I TO MAKE, HE SAID HE WAS DIRECTING TRAFFIC OR SOMETHING. ANYWAY, NOT HERE. ANY, ANY OTHER PART OF THE BUDGET THAT YOU LIKE TO, I DUNNO. UM, THE ONLY ONE THAT I, WHERE WE STAND ON, OKAY, SO THE, THE, LEMME UNDERSTAND THIS SO WE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE. THINK IT ONE MORE TIME. [00:20:01] YOU MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE TO DO A JOB MORE BY LAW THAT SET UP THAT WAY. SO YOU, WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S RIGHT. YES, I THINK I SPOKE TOO, BUT I KNOW THAT IF YOU'VE GOT IT BUDGETED, YOU CAN AT LEAST, AT LEAST DO IT IN COURT AND MOVE AND TRANSFER IT AND NOT HAVE TO THE BUDGET. IT'S, IT'S COMING DOWN OWN MONEY WHEN WE DO IT ALL THE, WE'RE CUTTING DOWN MATERIAL. THE ONLY THING I'M NOT SURE ABOUT IS IF YOU CAN DO IT WITHOUT TAKING IT TO COURT. I THINK YOU HAVE COURT LINE, LINE TRANSFER TO BE TAKEN TO COURT. YES. BUT YOU DON'T HAVE TO GO TO COURT TO CHANGE THE SALARY. WHAT YOU TRANSFER MONEY INTO YOUR SALARY LINE LINE COURT. YOU GOTTA DO THAT, DON'T YOU DON'T CLEARED UP IT UP AND YOU NEED SO THAT YOU DON'T, DON'T THE MONEY TO GIVE SOMEBODY A RAISE. YEAH. THAT'S NOT ALREADY IN THE, THE LINE ITEM. YEAH, WE HAVE TO BRING THAT TO COURT. I THINK IT HAS TO BE A VOTING, NOT JUST THE LINE ITEM ON IT. YOU NEED TO LET HER CHECK THAT. THAT'S WHY WE TRY THE CAPITAL SYSTEM. YOU BUDGET MORE AND THEN IF THEY BECOME QUALIFIED GREATER, THEN YOU NEED TO COME TELL ME WHAT YOU WANT TO PUT IN THERE. OKAY, I'M GOING, I'M TELLING Y'ALL, Y'ALL NEED TO REALIZE THAT WHEN WE'RE DOING BUDGET, Y'ALL ARE CREATING A NIGHTMARE BECAUSE Y'ALL ARE BUYING IN YOUR FINANCING AND I CAN'T KEEP UP WITH YOU AND KEEP UP WITH THIS. IT'S GETTING, IT'S GETTING, I I KNOW YOUR DEBT SERVICE PAYMENTS ARE PROBABLY NOT CORRECT BECAUSE Y'ALL BOUGHT NEW STUFF AND I'VE GOT AGREEMENTS ON MY DESK TO SIGN I HAVEN'T SIGNED TO SEND BACK. SO WE NEED TO GET THAT STRAIGHT, YOU KNOW, AND Y'ALL AS A COURT PROBABLY NEED TO SAY WE'RE GONNA WATCH THIS MONEY AND IF THIS MONEY DOESN'T COME IN LIKE WE'RE THINKING IT'S COMING IN, THEN WE'RE GONNA FREEZE SOME POSITIONS OR WE'RE GONNA FREEZE NO RAISES. WHATEVER YOU SUGGESTED WHILE AGO, YOU CALLED IT BY A CERTAIN NAME I THINK OR TERM. AND SO YOU CAN, SO YOU CAN WATCH THAT, THE BUDGET AS IT'S GOING AND SEE HEY, WE'RE AT THREE MONTHS AND UH, WE'VE COLLECTED UH, 20%. WE GOT SOME SOMEBODY THREE PRECINCTS. WE'RE NOT SPENDING MONEY, WE'RE WE YOUR PAYROLL, YOUR MATERIAL COSTS. ONE THING I DON'T UNDERSTAND, THAT'S WHAT CERTAIN PERCENTAGE I SHOULD KEEP. I NEED NOT DOWN TO BECAUSE THE, YOU NEED TO KEEP AT LEAST THREE MONTHS WORTH OF OPERATING EXPENDITURES. YOUR NECESSITIES, OKAY, PAYROLL, YOUR BENEFITS, YOUR LIKE UTILITIES, YOUR GAS ALL. CAN YOU, YOU SEND ME THAT ESTIMATE ABOUT WHAT SHOULD HE COULD CALCULATE WHAT YOUR MONTHLY EXPENDITURES HAVE BEEN RUNNING MINUS, MINUS ROAD, THAT AND UH, EQUIPMENT AND STUFF. AND WE CAN GET YOU A, A BASE NUMBER TO KEEP WATCHING YOUR HAVE TO HAVE THOSE. I'M WORKING ON IT. WE HAVE TO KEEP IT UP. [00:25:03] IT'S JUST, IT'S JUST LIKE THE HUMAN RESOURCE DIRECTOR BROUGHT TO Y'ALL LAST YEAR ASKING Y'ALL TO HELP HER, GIVE HER SOME KIND OF LAWS AND GUIDELINES TO GO BY BECAUSE SHE HAS A FEELING OR HAS A BELIEF THAT YOU CAN'T TELL AN ELECTED OFFICIAL WHAT THEY CAN DO WITH THEIR BUDGET. BUT YOU CAN, OF COURSE YOU CAN BECAUSE YOU HAVE SET THAT BUDGET AND YOU HAVE ADOPTED IT. SO THEY WOULD HAVE TO COME TO YOU AND SAY, I'VE LOST AN EMPLOYEE AND ONLY HAVE 30,000, BUT I'D LIKE TO BUMP THAT PERSON THAT I WANNA HIRE BECAUSE OF THEIR EXPERIENCE FROM ANOTHER DEPARTMENT. AND IT NEEDS TO BE OPEN RECORD. IT NEEDS TO BE UPFRONT AND THEN YOU EVERYBODY KNOW ABOUT IT AND THEN YOU DON'T GO AROUND WITH PEOPLE HAVING HARD FEELINGS. NOW, SOMETHING I HAVEN'T TOLD YOU THAT I'VE DONE, YOU HAD FOUR CONSTABLES THAT CAME AND PUT THEIR BUDGET TO YOU AND THEY HAD EQUIPMENT PRECINCT THREE HAD $6,000 WORTH OF WORKS STATIONS, UH, FOR HIS HIS DEPUTIES. SO I WANT YOU TO GO TO A PAGE. UM, LET'S LOOK AT, UM, PAGE 18. OKAY. FIND, UH, 5200 0 1 0 5204 0 9 WHERE IT SAYS OFFICE FURNITURE SLASH EQUIPMENT. YOU SEE THAT 55,500 THAT'S USUALLY CLOSE TO WHAT JACK IS OVER JACK KIND OF, I THINK THE JUDGE KIND OF DUMPED IT ON HIM TO TAKE CARE OF DUMP. I KEEP SAYING NO, BUT Y'ALL KEEP GOING. YEAH, WE KNOW YOU DON'T MEAN IT GRACIOUSLY. OKAY. IF YOU'LL NOTICE THE NEXT LINE ITEM BELOW IT IS 52 0 1 4 0 9 THAT SAYS NEW EQUIPMENT THAT HAS 18,500. I GOT HEARTBURN AT LUNCH BECAUSE I FOUND OUT THAT YOUR CONSTABLES ARE GOING AND TELLING EVERYBODY I TOOK THEIR EQUIPMENT AWAY FROM 'EM, I TOOK THEIR EQUIPMENT AWAY FROM 'EM OUT OF THEIR DEPARTMENT ON BUDGET AT YOUR REQUEST. SO YOU NEED TO LET 'EM KNOW I DIDN'T TAKE THE FAME AWAY FROM THEM. I HAVE IT SOMETHING THEY YEAH, AND I THINK THAT'S A BETTER WAY TO DO IT. THEY REALLY NEED TO START GOING, WORKING THROUGH Y'ALL BECAUSE YOU CAN BE THEIR ADVOCATE. YOU KNOW, ONE'S GOT 6,000, ONE HAS 3500, 1 HAS 500, ANOTHER ONE I THINK 5,000 IN THE SOFTWARE. YOU DON'T SEE NSTW IN THAT LINE ITEM ARE FOUR SUBSECTIONS AND EACH ONE IS FOR CONSTABLE PRECINCT, ONE OF 3,500. I SHOWED IT TO YOU THAT DAY. AND EACH ONE OF 'EM HAS THEIR OWN LITTLE AMOUNT THAT THEY CAN SPEND. SO WHEN JACK GOES TO GIVE 'EM A REQUISITION OR PURCHASE ORDER, THAT'S IT. THEY SPEND THAT. BUT NOW THEY'RE GOING TO BUY THE EQUIPMENT THAT THEY TOLD YOU THEY COME IN COURT TO BUY. WE'RE NOT GOING TO GO BACK DOWN THAT WE GOING TO GET SOME CHAIRS AGAIN. THAT'S MY QUESTION. DO YOU HAVE A LIST? WHAT THEY SAID MORNING WHEN THEY COME AND PRESENTED IT? I THINK WE HAVE IT ON THEIR SHEETS LIKE THAT. THEY WROTE LIKE A MEMO THAT THEY WANTED TO BUY THIS, THIS AND THIS. ARE WE GONNA HOLD THEM TO THAT OR WE, YOU KNOW, WELL THAT'S UP TO THE COURT. THEY WANT TO BUY BOTH. WHY WE WOULDN'T, THEY SHOULDA HAVE BROUGHT UP WHAT THEY NEEDED WAS THE FIGHT LAST TIME. I REMEMBER. WELL, YOU KNOW, WELL JUST ABOUT LAST TIME WAS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT. NOW WE KNOW SHOW, YOU KNOW, 50. WELL IT'S SOMETHING NEW AND SOMETHING BREAKS. I GET IT. YOU KNOW, I THINK TWO JPS, NO THREE JPS THAT ASKED FOR A THOUSAND DOLLARS IN OFFICE FURNITURE. I DIDN'T PUT IT IN THEIR BUDGETS. I PUT IT IN THAT 5,200, I UPPED IT 3000, 3,500, WHATEVER IT WAS. SO THEY CAN GET FURNITURE IF THEY NEED IT NOW. I THINK ONE OF THEM NEEDED SOME GAS FOR SOMETHING COME GET A SIDE BY SIDE OR A GOLF CART OR WHATEVER WITH IT. NO, I'M NOT, THEY'RE NOT GOING BE GOOD. JUST MAKING UP STUFF AND GET MY [00:30:01] PERMISSION. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.