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I'M SORRY.THE LAST MEETING PAGE ON PAGE 30 30, SECRETARY, OUR LAST MEETING, UH, EXPLAINED EVERYTHING ABOUT HOW THE MONIES, THINGS THAT KIND OF RESTRUCTURED AND ALL THE MON HAD TO MOVE AROUND THIS YEAR.
SO THE FIGURES REALLY ARE HERE.
ALL AGREE THAT SECRETARY WOULD COME UP TWO 30,000.
MARK, YOU LOOK AT HISTORICALLY THE SALARY.
13, YOU STILL CONSIDER THE BEING PAID.
I THINK WE ALL THAT TO BRING HER UP TO THE 30,000.
DOES THIS DOLLAR NOT JUST THAT OR DOES THIS DOLLAR NOT BACK? NOW IT'S THE TIME TO CHECK IT.
SO I APPRECIATE THE, IT'S FOR 2,400 I PUT IN THERE.
LIKE YOU ASKED, RAISE UP IN THE THIRD NEED.
I, I'M NOT HEARING WHAT HE'S SAYING.
HE MUST HAVE NOT HEARING PROPOSED EVERYBODY.
NOBODY TOLD ME YOU GIVE HER 36.
NO, BUT I GUESS THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE WELL, AND WE'RE STILL HAVING THAT DISCUSSION TOO ON, UH, KAREN, HOLD ON.
38, UH, PAGE NINE, SEVERAL POSITION BEEN VACATED DEPARTMENT DO OUR RESTRUCTURING AND ASSIGNMENTS WE'RE ABLE TO, SO WE'RE ABLE TO DO IT SHOWS TO BE UH, 28 180 6 WITH 24 INCREASE.
WELL, AND WE'RE STILL, THERE'S SOME EXCEPTIONS LIKE THIS TO DETERMINE WHAT WHATEVER WE DO ON SALARY, WHAT SHE DOES AND WHAT, BUT SHE'S ASSUMED ADDITIONAL RESPONSIBILITY.
THAT'S PART OF THE CONSTRUCTION PROCESS PART.
TO BE CLEAR, NOW SHE HAS REPLACED TWO EMPLOYEES.
IS THAT MY UNDERSTANDING? PORTION OF ONE PLUS PART ONE.
HER, HER NEW DUTIES ARE PART OF TWO VACANCIES.
AND THEN ANOTHER PORTION OF DUTIES THAT THEY DELEGATED TO MISSING.
SO WE DID THAT BY, UH, THREE EMPLOYEES SINCE THAT DAY, WHICH WE DID BY ELIMINATING SOME POSITIONS IN POSITION TRUCTURE, EVERYBODY'S STAYING BUSY.
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CORRECT ME, IS PAID BY FEES AND FINE.DOES OUR COVER PERMIT THE FEES AND FINES ALSO? I KNOW WHERE THE, I, THAT TREASURER'S OFFICE HAS A SECTION FOUR.
I'M NOT SURE IF THAT SHOULD YOUR DEPARTMENT OR WELL WE CAN THAT OUT.
THOSE ARE, THAT'S CODE WHICH IS ROAD BRIDGE.
JACK, I THINK YOU WANTED SPEAK.
I'M, WE ALSO INTIMIDATE FROM THE AUDITOR WOULD LIKE BE AWARE THAT AUTOMATIC GOING ON.
WE DIDN'T HAVE CREDIT CARD AT TIME, BUT WE HAD MONITOR, UH, I THINK I POINTED OUT OUR ION BACK FIVE.
WE DIDN'T HAVE CELL PHONE YEAR.
YOU GO HAVE ONE SECRETARY EACH'S OPERATION.
I'VE GOT ONE BUYER THAT HELPS WITH NOT ONLY FOUR COMMISSIONERS, THREE BARS, JAIL AND 35 OTHER FARM.
UH, I STAY BUSY JUST BUYING Y'ALL.
OUR POSITION, IT'S NOT, FOR EXAMPLE MR. PHE TRAILER TODAY.
WE'LL, AND I ACTUALLY TO OUT IS SERVICE AND JUST SO THERE AGAIN, I'M NOT HERE ARGUE APPRECIATE WHO USED TO HANDLE WORK.
WAS PART OF THE INVENTORY, THE TITLES ADDING TO THE INSURANCE, TAKING THEM OFF THE INSURANCE AND THAT WAS GIVEN TO JACK AND THEN
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LAURIE TOOK THE INSURANCE.LET THE COURT KNOW GONNA DOWN.
WE STOP EVERYTHING WE'RE DOING.
WE'RE AT, LEMME TELL YOU, I WAS HERE WHEN, HERE FIRST AND TAKE CARE OF A LOT OF HEADACHES FOR US.
I MEAN FROM WHAT? THE MAIN GOAL WERE KEEP EVERYBODY OUTTA JAIL.
REMEMBER WHEN I GOT HERE, THERE WAS BIG AREA, YOUR AREA BEFORE.
AS LONG AS WE HAVEN'T HAD THAT, THIS WHOLE MESS UP WORK PRACTICE, GOT OFFICE SPACE, WE UH, WE WOULD MAKE IT GOOD OFF.
BUT I, I'M BE HONEST ABOUT THAT.
WHAT TAKE TO LEARN LAW, WOULD YOU PROPOSE TO BRING THIS PERSON IN? I THINK YOU THINK YOU CAN HIRE SOMEBODY FOR THAT? WHAT I GET AS MUCH OF THESE THINGS AS CAN TODAY.
I, THE THING WE EVER HAD FOR US AT SHERIFF'S OFFICE, HE ROLLED HIS, HIS SLEEVES UP.
THE UH, I I HAD A FRIEND WITH A REMINDER FROM THE ATTORNEY THAT WE'RE NOT CONSENSUS.
PAGE 28TH, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
WELL, NUMBER SEVEN SEVEN ON THAT PAGE.
THE WAY THAT WORK, REMEMBER WE HAD DOWN AND UH, UM, SO WE, WE HIRED IN THE, UH, LATER WHEN WE HAD ABOUT 32 5 SOMETHING.
SO KIND OF GO AROUND THE TABLE ON VOTE OR ANYTHING, JUST KIND OF GIMME YOUR MENTAL THOUGHTS, YOU KNOW, KIND MUMBLE OR I, OKAY, OKAY.
ME, I KNOW THE PROBLEMS AND I KNOW IT WOULD SOMEONE ANSWER QUESTION ISSUE.
AGAIN, WE'RE NOT, WE'RE JUST KIND OPINION.
UH, WE, I HAVE ONE INVENTORY JOB UP THE INVENTORY SHOULDA.
THIS, THIS ONE, THIS ONE INVENTORY I'M TRYING TO GET.
THEY MIGHT BE ABLE TO GET MORE SAVINGS ON IF THE BUYER CHECKED OUT FOR CHEAPER.
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I THINK THE, WE'LL TRY HOW MUCH ARE YOU WILLING TO GIVE OUT YOUR SALARY? HALF THAT TO I WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS COME AROUND PLEASE.I NEED CLARIFICATION ON THE STORAGE ISSUE.
IF IT'S SOMETHING IN THE BUDGET, THE RUMOR HAS IT, WE HAVE TO MOVE OUT THE BUILDING ACROSS THE STREET.
I HAVE NOWHERE TO PUT THIS STUFF.
I DO NOT KNOW WHAT THE, WHAT ARE WE DOING? I JUST THINK THERE'S SOMETHING IN THE BUDGET FOR A BUILDING.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I TALKED ABOUT TRYING TO DO EARLIER AND THE ENCLO IS DRIVE IN AREA OVER IN THE PARKING LOT HERE WHERE THE DRIVE IN BANK WAS.
AND THE CITY HAS GIVEN US PERMISSION TO DO THAT.
WE'LL, TO COME UP WITH A SET OF NOT ARCHITECTURAL PLAN SORT OF DRAWING AND IT, UH, IT'LL, IT'LL HAVE, I I DON'T, I DON'T HAVE A VISUAL IMAGE HOW MANY BOXES YOU HAVE OR, OR ANYTHING.
I GUESS YOU'RE IN THE PROCESS.
SO DIGITIZING THOSE, IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT? WELL, I'M GETTING QUOTES, BUT I DON'T, LIKE I SAID, I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT IS GOING ON WITH THE BUILDING ACROSS THE STREET AND WHAT THE TIMEFRAME IS.
WE'RE TRYING TO GET THE MATERIAL, THE INFORMATION THAT'S STORED ACROSS THE STREET BECAUSE THE BUILDING IS NOT SAFE GOING VACATE THAT BUILDING THEN MY BELIEF IS WE WILL DO SOMETHING TO THE BUILDING.
I'M NOT SURE WHAT THAT WOULD BE.
WE'LL HAVE TO COME BACK AND DO SOMETHING TO THE BUILDING TO MAKE IT STRUCTURALLY SOUND.
BUT WE CAN'T DO THAT WITH THE, WITH THE BOXES AND THE SHELVING THAT'S IN THERE.
THAT'S THE REASON WE'RE MAKING A CONCERTED EFFORT TO GET DOWN.
DO YOU HAVE A TIMEFRAME THAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT? FAST AS WE CAN DO IT.
UH, AND I SAY LONG RANGE AS SOON WE CAN AND THE COURT, WE TALKED ABOUT THIS, I THINK ONE TIME WE TALKED ABOUT IT RECENTLY OR NOT.
WE DO HAVE THIS BUILDING HERE THAT CAN BE CONVERTED TO A, UH, STORAGE FACILITY.
YEAH, IT, YEAH, IT'S UH, THE ONLY PROBLEM WE HAVE WITH IT DOESN'T, IT'S KIND OF AN ANGLE, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT SQUARE.
BUT YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO COME IN AND FIGURE OUT THEIR THAT, BUT IT, IT CAN BE MADE I THINK INTO A VERY GOOD STORY HERE RIGHT NOW IT'S PARK THEIR CARS TO GET OUT THE, AND I DO THINK WHAT KEN SAID, I THINK, HEY, THAT BLOCK WOULD BE THE BEST THING.
WE CAN'T BUILD A, UH, YOU KNOW, A METAL PUT METAL THAT THE CITY DOES DO THAT.
BUT, UH, THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT I WOULD LIKE, THAT'LL BE THE QUICKEST, EASIEST THING TO DO.
AND UH, SO DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? I JUST, I DIDN'T KNOW IF THERE WAS MONEY IN THE BUDGET FOR SOMETHING.
YOU KNOW, I JUST, I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO WITH MY, WE'LL HAVE MONEY AND WE PROBABLY GOT MONEY BUDGET, MAYBE WE COULD, UH, GET STARTED ON IT, BUT IT CERTAINLY, THERE'S MONEY BUDGETED FOR REPAIRS TO COUNTY, UH, PROPERTY NEXT TO YOUR ROOF REPAIRS AND IMPROVEMENTS TO COUNTY PROPERTY NEXT YEAR.
AND I DUNNO IF YOU CAN USE YOUR RECORD STORAGE FEES FOR THAT OR NOT.
I DUNNO, YOU HAVE SEVERAL HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS.
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USE THAT FOR.I'M NOT SURE ONE OF YOUR FUNDS HAS SEVEN NEARLY SEVEN 50 IN.
WELL, I GUESS THAT'S, YOU KNOW, ARE YOU CLAIMING FOR ME TO TRY TO SPEND THAT? I DON'T UNDERSTAND.
THAT'S WHY I THINK WELL, THAT'S WHAT I'M ASKING YOU.
SO I, I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE GONNA DO WITH YOUR MONEY, SO I WON'T YOU TO TELL ME THAT WE'LL HAVE A CONVERSATION.
I'LL, I'LL BRING BACK THE PLAN TO SHOW THAT THE MONEY WILL BE SPENT OR ON THE RECORDS.
UM, IF THERE WAS MONEY THAT BE SPENT ON THE BUILDING, IT ONLY BE THIS SIZE THAT ACCOMMODATES THE RECORDS THAT I HOLD.
NOT FOR YOUR, I MEAN FOR YOUR OFFICE.
PARDON? IT COULDN'T BE A BUILDING THAT OBVIOUS COUNTY RECORDS.
BUT I COULDN'T PUT IN THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY RECORDS IN DISTRICT.
NO, I DON'T, I I'M NOT EVEN THINKING ABOUT THAT.
SO, BUT, BUT I, THERE MAY BE SOME CONCERN ABOUT, FROM WHAT I'VE UNDERSTOOD FROM SECONDHAND INFORMATION THAT I DUNNO WHETHER YOUR FUNDS CAN BE USED FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF A BUILDING OR THE PURCHASE OF A BUILDING OR REPAIR.
I ADDRESSED THAT TO RAY CLARK A YEAR OR SO AGO THAT HE DID NOT WANT THE, THOSE, THOSE NUMBERS ON A ADOBE.
AND I I HAVE A OF THAT EMAIL WE CAN, WE CAN GET WITH THAT.
I BASICALLY WANTED TO KNOW IS WHAT WAS THE TIMEFRAME THAT YOU WERE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT THAT BUILDING? SO JUST AS SOON AS POSSIBLE WHAT TO DO WITH MY STOP JUST AS SOON AS POSSIBLE, THEN WE'RE GONNA SEE WHAT WE NEED TO DO FOR THE BUILDING.
OCCUPIED THE BUILDING IS NOT A, UH, WE, WE NEED TO GET, WE NEED, YOU KNOW, DISTRICT CLERK HAS RECORDS OUT THERE.
SHE'S IN PROCESS OF GOING THROUGH THOSE AND DIGITIZING JUST LIKE YOU HAVE BEEN.
AND SO THAT'LL, THAT'S, I'M TRYING TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, BUT EVIDENTLY I NO, I, I, I, OKAY.
AND THE OTHER THING THAT I WANTED TO TALK TO THE COURT ABOUT AND JUST, AND THIS IS NOT ONLY FOR MY STAFF OR OR JUST ANYBODY ELSE HAVE SAID ANYTHING, BUT I JUST PLEASE KEEP IN MIND SALARY, EQUITIES, IT'S EASY FOR, A DEPARTMENT HAD TO COME UP AND SAY, I HAVE A WHIZBANG EMPLOYEE AND HE OR SHE HAS DONE A SUPER FANTASTIC JOB AND I REALLY THINK THAT THEY DESERVE A BIG RAISE OR TO MAKE THIS AMOUNT OF MONEY.
BUT WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE DEPARTMENTS THAT HAVE MORE STAFF, IT'S A LITTLE BIT HARDER FOR US TO COME AND SAY, YOU KNOW, I'VE GOT SOME, WE SPEND EMPLOYEES THAT DO AN OUTSTANDING, FANTASTIC JOB.
WE SERVE THE COURTS, WE SERVE Y'ALL, WE SERVE THE PUBLIC.
AND I WOULD LIKE TO SEE EVERYBODY RAISED UP TO X AMOUNT OF DOLLARS.
SO IT'S A LITTLE BIT HARDER FOR ME TO COME IN AND SAY, PLEASE GIVE 17 PEOPLE THIS VERY LARGE RAISE OR BRING THEM UP TO $30,000 OR $40,000 OR WHATEVER.
BUT IT'S, IT VERY DIFFICULT AND DISHEARTENING WHEN YOU HAVE AN EMPLOYEE WHO, AND I, AND I HAVE ONE, SHE'S WORKED HERE ALMOST 10 YEARS AND SHE'S MAKING 29,000.
SHE'S NEVER GONNA BE BROUGHT UP TO, YOU KNOW, TO A HIGHER RATE EXCEPT THE RAISES BECAUSE I HAVE NO STEP PROGRAM OR I HAVE ANYTHING ELSE.
AND I JUST SAY, PLEASE KEEP IN MIND, OR MAYBE SOMETHING YOU CAN LOOK AT IS DOING A SALARY STUDY OR SOMETHING JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT THESE DEPARTMENTS ARE NOT, THAT THEY'RE GROWING BY LEAPS AND BOUNDS MUCH LARGER THAN ELECTED OFFICIAL OFFICES.
AND THEIR SALARIES SEEM TO GROW WITH LEAPS AND BOUNDS MUCH MORE THAN ELECTED OFFICIAL OFFICES.
AND AT SOME POINT WE LOSE PEOPLE AND THAT WE HAVE A CONSTITUTIONAL DUTY TO DO.
AND IF WE LOSE OUR PEOPLE TO THESE OTHER OFFICES BECAUSE THEY'RE MAKING MORE MONEY, WELL THAT'S GREAT AND WONDERFUL, BUT AT THE SAME TIME WE STOP DOING OUR CONSTITUTIONAL DUTIES AND THEY'RE IMPORTANT ENOUGH THAT WE'VE BEEN GROWING FOR 160 YEARS.
SO I JUST SAY EVEN MIND, YOU KNOW, THERE'S GOTTA BE SOME SORT OF SALARY EQUITY LOOKED AT WHEN PEOPLE COME UP AND ASK FOR, RAISE FOR INDIVIDUALS.
85 PEOPLE OR MANY DON'T EVEN ABOUT 2 43, 2 43 PEOPLE.
I MEAN, AND MAYBE THAT'S WHAT WE DO.
WE'RE REVENUE, REVENUE GENERATING OFFICE.
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I CAN'T REDUCE, I CAN'T REDUCE THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE SALARIES.HOW MANY YOU LOST DEPEND ON IF I GOT RID OF THEM OR IF THEY JUST LEFT, WENT SOMEWHERE ELSE.
I ONLY HAD ONE THAT LEFT MY OFFICE.
I WENT TO ANOTHER OFFICE IN THE LAST TWO, THE, IN THE SHERIFF MANY SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT PERSONALITY, BUT NOT, NOT JAIL.
I GUESS NOT NECESSARILY IN THE JAIL.
I THOUGHT YOU WERE, I WHY? IT SHOWS REMARKABLE SUPERVISOR.
AND, UH, WELL CAME HER EXTRA THAT THAT WE, WE ARE BRINGING IN NEW PEOPLE THAT HIRED IN 2015 MAKING MORE MONEY AND WE'LL ALWAYS MAKE MORE MONEY THAN SOMEONE WHO'S BEEN HERE 10, 11 YEARS.
AND THAT'S NOT JUST MY OFFICE.
THAT'S THE, THAT'S PROBABLY YOUR OFFICE.
YEAH, I JUST THAT YOU SAID YOU COULDN'T, YOU CAN, YOU CAN ASK.
I MEAN THAT'S ALL DID
BECAUSE EVERY YEAR WE CONTINUE DOING THIS AND WE GET I THINK FURTHER, YEAH, I KNOW ROCKWELL COUNTY DOING ONE NOW AND THEY'RE NOT NECESSARILY, CHIEF JOHNSON JUST FINISHED ONE JUDGE IN THAT WE WOULD DO A GOOD EVALUATION OF OUR EMPLOYEES.
THE OTHER THING I'D LIKE TO DO IS US TO FIGURE OUT 10 DIFFERENT THINGS, GIVE IT TO EVERYONE WE, AND LET THEM, UH, GET SOMEBODY GOING.
DO YOU LIKE YOUR POSITION? WHAT CHANGE ABOUT YOUR POSITION? OR GO DOWN A LAUNDRY LIST OF THINGS.
THAT'S THE ONLY WAY YOU'RE GONNA, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT LORI, I THINK, AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT HAS TO BE DONE BY THE ELECTED OFFICIAL.
THAT'S WHAT WE'VE BEEN DONE, CREATE YEARS OUT THERE.
THERE ARE SEVERAL DEPARTMENTS THAT DO 'EM INTERNALLY, BUT I MEAN, IT'S, I CAN'T MAKE PEOPLE DO IT.
THAT'S AN ELECTED OFFICIAL DECISION TO DO THAT OR NOT.
SO I'M HAPPY TO HELP AND ASSIST.
BUT THE PROBLEM COMES ABOUT WHEN YOU, YOU HAVE NO CHART, NO ANYTHING.
AND SO YOU HAVE SOMEONE THAT HAS, YOU KNOW, THEY MAY HAVE SOME EXPERIENCE, BUT THEY HAVEN'T WORKED FOR THE COUNTY AND THEY COME IN MAYBE 5,000 MORE THAN SOMEBODY'S BEEN HERE 20 YEARS.
I CAN TELL YOU RIGHT NOW WITHOUT FILLING OUT A FORM.
MORALE IS BAD AND IT'S BASED ON YOUR SALARIES.
AND THE THING IS, PEOPLE COME TO KAUFFMAN COUNTY WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT THEY'RE NOT DRIVING TO DALLAS.
SO THEY'RE NOT GONNA GET DALLAS MONEY.
BUT THE PROBLEM IS, IS THEY SLAVE ENSLAVED, ENSLAVED FOR 15, 20 YEARS AND THEY DON'T EVER GET ANYTHING UNLESS Y'ALL GIVE IT TO THEM.
AND YOU KNOW, YOU'VE GOT, LIKE LAURA SAID, SHE'S GOT A LOT OF PEOPLE, SHE'S NOT GONNA COME AND ASK FOR, YOU KNOW, ALL THAT MONEY SHE'S WAITING ON Y'ALL TO, YOU KNOW, GIVE THE, GIVE THOSE RAISES TO THOSE EMPLOYEES.
BUT IT IS, THE POSITIONS ARE NOT COMPENSATED FOR THE RESPONSIBILITIES RIGHT NOW.
AND I CAN TELL YOU THAT WAS BY LOOKING AT IT AS ANY DEPARTMENT DO AN EXIT INTERVIEW FOR EXIT FOR THEY SEND.
NO, AND I, I DO KIND OF AN INTERNAL THING.
I DON'T WRITE ANYTHING DOWN, BUT I, I DO ASK THEM, I TALK TO THEM MARCH.
HALF OF THEM DO IT ON, DON'T THEY DO SOME OF BACK TO A THIRD PARTY OR BE ANALYZED.
I MEAN, I'M HAPPY TO, I KNOW SOME DEPARTMENTS DO IT ON THEIR OWN.
I DON'T EVER SEE IT, SO I DON'T KNOW.
BUT WHEN AN EMPLOYEE DOES COME IN AND TALK TO ME, I USUALLY TRY TO FIGURE OUT WHAT WAS GOING ON, WHAT HAPPENED.
AND A GOOD MAJORITY OF 'EM ARE SALARIES.