* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [00:00:01] BRIAN, YOU WANNA TURN FORWARD AND TALK ABOUT THAT? I KNOW THEY GIVE US AN UPDATE ON THE CITY ATION. WELL, WE HAD A MEETING WITH, UH, CENTER. THEY SHOWED UP, YOU KNOW, WE SENT THAT LETTER OUT. I KNOW EVERY CITY, UH, THE ONLY TWO THAT SCHEDULED WAS THE CITY OF HAR, THE CITY OF COFFEE. UH, WE SAT DOWN THAT DOCUMENT AND WE'VE GOT THE DOCUMENT, BUT CAROL COMES WITH BIG SWING AND CHANGE, AND IF REBECCA WAS THERE, SHE SEEMS A BIG CHANGE THAT THEY WANTED TO ADD SOME STUFF AND CHANGE SOME STUFF. SO NOW WE'RE WAITING TO GET THROUGH THE LEGAL, UH, TO GO THROUGH WHAT WE CAN AND CAN'T HAVE. UH, I THINK THERE WAS SOME CONCERNS, UH, Y'ALL'S OFFICE WITH SOME OF THE STUFF. IT'S ALL KIND OF THE TECHNICAL CHANGES THAT THEY'RE WANTING. A LOT OF IT FOCUSES IN ON, UM, PERSONNEL JUST MAKING SURE THAT THEIR PEOPLE ARE TAKEN CARE OF IN THE SAME WAY THAT THEY'RE DOING RIGHT NOW. UM, THE DISPATCHER. YEAH. YEAH. THEY'RE OUR SWAP. YEAH. AND THEY HAVE A LOT OF LONGEVITY THINGS THAT THEY DO IN THE CITIES THAT THE COUNTY DOESN'T. SO WE'RE KIND OF WORKING ON THAT TRANSFER. WE DID A HR MAJOR BETWEEN THE THREE BIG CITIES. WE'VE GOT THAT COMPARISON. AND THEIR, THEIR CONCERN IS HOW THEY'RE GONNA BRING THEIR EMPLOYEES OVER. MM-HMM . AND OUR CONCERN IS WHAT CAN WE LEGALLY DO? RIGHT. FOR SENIORITY WISE, BECAUSE THEY'VE GOT SOME, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE SENIORITY AND WE BRING THEM OVER AND MAKE THEM SUPERVISOR. SO WE'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT WE CAN LEGALLY DO. UH, SO HOW MANY DISPATCH? EIGHT. WE'RE DOWN FOUR POSITIONS NOW, RIGHT? SO YOU BRING EIGHT ON AND PLUS, UH, THE FIVE OF THEM. SO RIGHT NOW WE'RE JUST TRYING TO WORK THROUGH THIS DOCUMENT AGAIN, BECAUSE ONCE AGAIN, AS I SAID BEFORE, WE GOT LAWYERS LOOKING AT IT AND THEY STARTED LOOKING AT IT AND THEY THEY DID A SWING TO IT. THEY DID IT. YEAH. YEAH. THEY, THEY TOOK A GOOD SWING. IT, HAVE YOU LOOKED AT OTHER DOCUMENTS FROM OTHER ENTITIES, UH, THAT ARE, THAT PUT THESE SENT SITUATION TOGETHER, LIKE CEDAR HILL, WE'VE HAD ALL GET THEIR, GET THEIR LEGAL DOCUMENT AND SEE WHAT ONE WE HAVE, AND THEY, THEY JUST, UM, MATERIAL PEOPLE ARE JUST ADDED, UM, PROPOSED A DIFFERENT DRAFT, UM, DIFFERENT FROM MANY OF THOSE. AND IT'S, IT'S NOT TO SAY THAT IT'S BAD IN ANY WAY, IT'S JUST A NEW CREATIVE WAY TO LOOK AT IT THAT WE'RE KIND OF SHIFTING THROUGH AND SEEING, UM, IF THAT MATCHES EVIDENCE CONCEPT. THIS, THIS IS FROM AN EXISTING COUNTY THAT'S INVOLVED AND THEY'VE HAD DOCUMENT NOW PUT A LITTLE, I THINK IT'S A GOOD THING. THEY'RE NEGOTIATION. THAT'S IT. SO WE'RE TRYING, AND THE TIMEFRAMES, IT'S NOT GONNA BE OCTOBER 1ST, THE EQUIPMENT PROBABLY, I THINK EVERYBODY'S ON BOARD AND THEN WE'RE TRYING TO GET WITH THE CITY THE DEAN RESPOND BACK TO, WE'RE TRYING TO SAY HEY, WHICH I KNOW, YOU KNOW, WE ALL KNOW THERE'S A COUPLE CITIES AND I, SO WE'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT. YEAH, BUT I'D MAKE SURE I DOWN, I GUESS IF HE'S GOING, OH, I'M, I'M NOT, I DON'T BELIEVE THAT'S GONNA HAPPEN. ARE THE, I THINK HE'S BEEN PRETTY STERN. SECOND, ARE THOSE FULLTIME DEPARTMENTS? DO THEY OPERATE 24 7 IS RUNNING, I MEAN, UNLESS I THINKS VACATION TIME, MAYBE THEY DON'T HAVE NOBODY FILL THEIR VACATION. I KNOW Y'ALL STILL ANSWER CALLS SOMEBODY ON VACATION, NOT THERE. WE GO'S COUNTY ALWAYS. THAT ALWAYS WOULD. BUT THAT'S WHERE WE STAND. TAMPA, WHAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT. THEY DIDN'T HAVE ONE TIME AND SOMETIMES THEY STILL DON'T, BUT, BUT, BUT THEY DISPATCH BY US. YEAH, BUT I THINK WE'RE, UH, WE'VE SAT DOWN AND KIND OF, AND THE CITIES ARE CONCERNED THAT, OKAY, WE'RE PAYING INTO THIS. WHAT ABOUT THE CITY DOES NOT. WHY WOULD WE JUST ALL SAY, WE'RE ALL NOT GONNA JUST PAY YOU AND YOU DISPATCH AND OUR DEAL IS, THIS IS WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO LOOK AT, IS WHAT YOU GET FOR WHAT YOU'RE PAYING FOR THE FUNCTIONALITY OF REPORTS CLASS C. IF YOU HAVE CLASS C, THEN YOU'RE NOT. WE'RE CLASS. WE'RE GONNA TAKE ON THAT EXTRA. UH, THE ONE THING THAT WE CAN LOOK AT, WHICH I STILL SAY THINK PROBABLY NEEDED, WHICH I'M GONNA SAY HERE AND OPEN RECORD, IS, YOU KNOW, IF WE SAY WE'RE NOT GONNA [00:05:01] GENERATE ANY REPORTS THAT WE DO NOW, BUT IF THEY OPEN RECORDS AND WE GENERATE THAT, WE, WE, WE, BUT I MEAN, DO YOU HAVE TO ANSWER, DO YOU HAVE TO DISPATCH THE CALL? YES, WE'VE GOT SOMEBODY CALLS FOR HELP. I MEAN, SOMEBODY CALLS FOR CALL BREAK IN A BREAK, COME HOME AND SOMEBODY DROP SOMETIME IN MORNING. WE HAVE PEOPLE. OKAY. I WOULD THINK WE HAVE BECAUSE HEY, THERE'S A GUN STOLEN. WE REFUSE TO TAKE THAT CALL. THAT GUN THEN GETS ON THE STREET AND KILLED SOMEBODY. WHEN YOU COULD HAVE ENTERED IN KEY LET AND MAYBE GOT, OH, I'M JUST SAYING, I'M SAYING THERE'S A LOT OF LIABILITY THAT YOU GOTTA LOOK AT. UH, AND I JUST, I THINK THAT PERSON, EVEN THOUGH THEY'RE IN THEIR CITY, THEY'RE, AND I, I HATE TO SAY THIS, BUT THEY ARE PAYING TAXES. I THINK WE DESERVE TO, TO SERVE THEM WHEN SOMEBODY'S NOT FILLING THEIR OBLIGATIONS THAT THEY SHOULD BE. BECAUSE WE DO THAT ALL THE TIME. I MEAN, IF SOMEBODY DON'T LIKE THE CITY HERE DECISION AND THEY WANT TO COME TO US, THEY COME TO US AND WE'LL WIND UP LOOKING AT IT. THAT'S JUST WHAT WE DO. AND I DO, I DO THINK, AND I'M PRETTY SURE THIS, THAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE SOME OTHER ENTITIES OUTSIDE OF TON COUNTY THAT ARE GONNA WANNA JOIN UP WITH US AFTER WE GET GOING. NOW THAT'LL BE LEFT UP TO THE COURT IF WE ALLOW THEM TO DO THAT. BUT WE'RE NOT NEAR THAT POINT YET. IT'S WORK IN PROGRESS. I'M TELLING, THIS IS A LONG BROUGHT UP THING I WOULD'VE BEEN ON. I WISH IT WAS DONE TOMORROW. YOU'RE NOT THE ONE ONE COMMISSION. WELL, I'M TELLING IT TAKES A LOT OF MY TIME. YOU KNOW, THIS SHOULDN'T BEEN STEP ONE, NOT STEP 10. WELL WE, HOW MANY TIMES HAVE WE PRODUCE THIS DOCUMENT TO 'EM? WELL, THEY'VE LOOKED AT IT AND THEN WE, WE CHARGED AHEAD AND, AND YOU KNOW, BOUGHT THE RADIOS AND BUILT THIS FACILITY AND ALL, WHICH WE SHOULDA HAVE INCLUDED THE CITIES IN ALL THIS, BUT I MEAN, THAT'S ALL HISTORY. BUT AT THIS POINT, WHAT I'M COMMENDING IS PUT STEEL FOOTHOLD, MAKE POSITION OF THE, WELL, WE DON'T KNOW THAT. WE, WE GOT, WE'VE GOT A LETTER ON ALL THAT. I'LL, NOBODY'S SHARED THAT. WELL, I'LL, I'LL MAKE SURE YOU, BECAUSE I THINK WE HAVE A LETTER FROM EVERY ENTITY. UH, I BELIEVE BRIAN, HELP ME. I KNOW WE DO FROM TER AND KAUFMAN AND THEN THE FIRE CHIEF ASSOCIATION. THEY DO NOT WANT OPERATE BY ANYBODY. BUT I, IF SOMEBODY HAS IT IN WRITING, I WISH SHARE IT WITH YOU. I'LL, I'VE GOT INFORMATION CONTRARY THAT. AND THAT'S ALL I'VE GOT. EVERYTHING WE'VE GOT BESIDES THE CITY OF MAY, I THINK THEY'RE THE ONLY ONE THAT HAS NOT PRODUCED SOMETHING YET SAYING THEY WANTED IT, THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE. WELL, THAT IF THEY, THAT'S ALL I WANT IS THE CITY MEMBER TO PARTICIPATE PRIVATE, WHO THAT CITY IS, IF YOU WOULD. I WE'RE WORKING ON DISCUSSION IN PROGRESS AND THE DA'S OFFICE BEING OUTSTANDING AND WE'VE HAD THE MEETINGS. I SAY THAT'S, I DON'T CARE WHO RUNS IT, AS LONG AS THE CITIES ARE COMFORTABLE IN PARTICIPATING IN MAKING, AND APPARENTLY ALL THE EMAILS THAT I'VE SEEN, EVERYBODY WANTS TO RUN SHERIFF'S OFFICE. I HAVEN'T SEEN THAT. SO I, I'M JUST GOING OUT, WHAT I HAVE BEEN TOLD, ALRIGHT, WELL ARE YOU WORRIED ABOUT THE CITY OF TERRE? I SAID, I WANNA MAKE SURE ALL THE CITIES ARE PARTICIPATING. WELL, THE MAYOR HAS TOLD ME FROM THE CITY OF TER TOLD THEY I GOT LETTER FROM ONE THING, SOMETHING. I THINK IT WOULD BE A GOOD, SO TO DO SOMETHING HERE UP ON, ALRIGHT, WE NEED TO MOVE ALONG. AND UH, NEXT ITEM IS THE UNCLAIMED CAPITAL CREDITS PLAN. THAT'S 65,000 WE GOT WITHIN THE LAST TWO OR THREE MONTHS PLUS I'VE BEEN TELLING Y'ALL ALL ALONG, NOBODY CORRECTED. I'VE EVEN ASKED ANGIE, I SAID THIS. CORRECT. I THOUGHT 35. I, WELL I DID SAY THATALL HERE. Y'ALL WERE HERE. WELL, Y'ALL WERE HERE. I BELIEVE Y'ALL, WE WERE HERE ANYWAY. WE ONLY DISTRIBUTED 10,000. SO WE GOT 35,000 AND SO WE'VE GOT ABOUT 25,000 THAT DID I SEND Y'ALL? SO WE'VE GOT APPROXIMATELY 190 SOMETHING THOUSAND LEFT TO, UH, DISTRIBUTE. UM, REBECCA HAD BEEN WORKING ON THAT. AND, UH, [00:10:01] YOU HEARD THE PRESENTATION FROM, UH, UH, THE CHILDREN ADVOCACY CENTER, UH, LAST WEEK, UH, AT OUR, AT MEETING. MEETING. AND UH, I THINK WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE HEARING SOMETHING FROM THE CHILD, UH, CHILDREN'S, UH, CENTER OR THE, UH, VALE EMERGENCY PLACEMENT CENTER. SO, AND I KNOW YOU'VE BEEN TALKING YEAH, I'M STILL ACTUALLY WORKING ON THE WORDING, THE STATUTE TO MAKE SURE THAT'S GONNA BE EXPLAN. SO I'M DO THAT FIRST. OKAY. THE, THE STATUTE WAS VERY SPECIFIC. IT, IT'S KIND OF TROUBLESOME . YEAH. BECAUSE IT SAYS, UM, CHILD ADVOCACY CENTERS AND I WOULD HAD HOPE THAT THAT WASN'T DEFINED ANYWHERE. BUT THE FAMILY CODE ACTUALLY DEFINES IT SPECIFICALLY AS THE CHILD ADVOCACY CENTER THAT WE HAVE SET UP. SO THE PURPOSE OF IT SEEMS TO GO TOWARDS, UH, ABUSED CHILDREN, WHICH CERTAINLY THE SHELTER DOES. SO I'M, I'M JUST TRYING TO RECONCILE THOSE TOGETHER AND SEE IF WE CAN GET THAT. AND IN THAT SECTION, IF, IF NOT, THERE'S A LOT OF OTHER SECTIONS, BUT ALL OF THEM WAS FOCUSED ON ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND, AND NOT THAT ON CHILDREN, UNLESS YOU'RE LOOKING AT A LITERACY PROGRAM OR, UM, SOMETHING TO IMPROVE APPLICATION OF ARTS. SO, UH, USED, UH, DEFINITELY COULD BE USED FOR THE ADVOCACY. SIMPLY NO QUESTION. IT IT CAN DEFINITELY BE USED FOR THAT. UH, IT MAYBE FOR THE CHILD CHILDREN MAYBE. YES. BUT IT DEFINITELY COULD BE USED FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. AND WE HAVE SEVERAL PROGRAMS THAT WE PARTICIPATE IN WITH C THAT UH, WE PAY FOR THE GENERAL AND WE CAN GET THAT'S SOMETHING THAT INSTEAD OF PAYING ALL OF IT OUTTA THE GENERAL, WE PROBABLY REPLACE SOME OF IT OUTTA THIS, OUT THIS CREDIT. BUT ONE OF THE THINGS I'M GOING DO IS CALL THE CONTROL AND FIND OUT EXACTLY HOW THIS THING WORKS. AND GREG, YOU MAY NOT KNOW ABOUT ANYBODY IN HERE, BUT IT'S UNPLANNED CREDIT FROM THE ELECTRIC CO-OP IN THE COUNTY. I UNDERSTAND. AND UH, FIRST YEAR WE GOT ABOUT THREE AND LAST YEAR WE GOT 30, GOT 65,000. AND WHAT THE UNPLANNED CREDITS ARE IS, WHAT I UNDERSTAND IS WHEN SOMEBODY LEAVES, YOU KNOW, THE COUNTY AND THEY DON'T GET THOSE CREDITS BACK ON THEIR BILL OR SOMETHING, THEY GO TO THE STATE AND THEN THE STATE REDISTRIBUTION TO THE COUNTY. BUT IF THE COUNTY DOESN'T ASK FOR YOU, AND SO WE STARTED ASKING FOR THEM ABOUT THREE YEARS. AGO'S GOING, I MEAN, AND THE ONLY THING I CAN THAT AND COUNTY, THEY DISCONNECTED THEIR POWER OR JUST TURNED BACK ON. THEY DON'T AND THEY DON'T GET THEIR DEPOSIT YEAH. WHERE THEY'RE GOING. YEAH. IS THAT RIGHT? ACTUALLY WHAT IT IS, IS, YOU KNOW, WHEN THEY DO THE CAPITAL CREDITS, THEY MAY DO 1975 AND 1981, RIGHT. THEY'LL SEND THEM AND THE UNCLAIMED ONES ARE FROM DECEASED MEMBERS THAT NOBODY'S CLAIMED THEY'RE ESTATE OR WHATEVER, YOU KNOW, THEY'LL TRY TO FIND THE AIR. AND IF THERE'S NO WILL AND ALL THAT, THEN THAT GOES BACK TO THE STATE AND IT'S ACTUALLY DECEASED. CAN'T FIND, NOT CLAIMED, BUT I MEAN, IF THEY MOVED TO HAWAII AND LEFT A AFFORDING ADDRESS, WE'LL SEND IT TO HAWAII. BUT IT IS JUST, UH, DEC MAINLY DECEASED AND NOBODY FOLLOWS UP ON ESTATE CLAIMING THE ESTATE AND THE, THAT MANY DECEASED WHO, ANYWAY, MY CURIOSITY IS, IS THAT GOING TO INCREASE OR GONNA LEVEL OFF OR WHATNOT? YOU KNOW, I, NO, NO, I MEAN, I MEAN ANGIE BROUGHT THE CHECK IN FOR HUNDRED $65,000. IT WAS UNBELIEVABLE, YOU KNOW, THAT WE RECEIVED THAT. SO THE FIRST, WHAT YEAR IS IT FOR? IS IT, DO THEY WAIT SO MANY YEARS BEFORE THEY RELEASE HOW MANY YEARS? YES SIR. THEY, AND I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE YEARS ARE, BUT THEY HAVE A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TIME BEFORE THEY RELEASE. AND WHAT IT IS, IS THE, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE WE'RE A NONPROFIT, IT'S THE AMOUNT OF PROFIT THAT WAS MADE FOR THAT YEAR THAT IS SPLIT UP AGAINST THE MEMBERS THAT WERE MEMBERS AT THAT TIME. BECAUSE I KNOW LIKE, YOU KNOW, LIKE YOU JUST LEAVE MONEY IN A BANK ACCOUNT OR SOMETHING. IT HAS TO SIT THERE FOR WHAT, SEVEN YEARS OR FIVE [00:15:01] YEARS BEFORE WITH NO ACTIVITY AND THEN THEY TURN IT INTO THE STATE AND THEN THEY PUT IT ON. YES SIR. OURS JUST RAN LIKE THROUGH THE N-N-R-E-C-A AND STUFF AND IT MAY BE A 10 YEAR PERIOD AND THEN THE BOARD DIRECTORS DECIDE WHAT YEARS THAT'S THEY'RE GONNA RETIRE. QUICKER PROCESS. BECAUSE I WAS THINKING MAYBE THIS IS MONEY, LIKE 90 AND A LOT OF THE INCREASES HAVE TO DO WITH THE INCREASE OF POPULATION BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT I MEAN, 1970, WE HAD 10,000 MEMBER MEMBERS. IN 1995 WE HAD 35,000, YOU KNOW, ANYWAY, THAT'S KIND OF THE LATEST WE CAN CARRY THE MONEY OFF NEXT. WE DON'T HAVE TO MAKE A DECISION ON, BUT IT WOULD BE NICE TO KNOW IF WE WANTED TO, UH, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER THE COURT WANTS TO DO AS FAR AS THESE TWO AGENCIES WE HAVE. AND THEN ALSO WOULD BE IT'S SECTION IN THERE FOR ADVERTISING FOR THE COUNTY TOO, WHICH I THINK MAY, OUR WEBSITE MIGHT THAT IT'S SUPPOSED TO ATTRACT, UH, CONVENTIONS, VISITORS, BUSINESSES. ALRIGHT. UH, OTHER, BEFORE WE MOVE BACK TO THE ISSUE, WHICH I WANT US TO, UH, REACH SOME SORT OF A, UH, AN AGREEMENT ON IF WE POSSIBLY CAN. NOT A VOTE AGAIN, JUST A CONSENSUS. UH, ANYBODY HAVE ANYTHING ELSE THEY WANT TO TALK ABOUT AS FAR AS WHAT'S IN THIS WORKING? MY, MY, I REALLY DON'T WANT TO HAVE ANOTHER WORKSHOP. IF WE CAN KEEP FROM IT. UH, WE'RE GONNA ADOPT BUDGET ON SEPTEMBER 2ND, THEN SET TAX. BUT IF WE HAVE TO, WE CAN DO THAT. BUT, UH, UH, SO DID ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANYTHING IN THIS BUDGET, UH, THAT YOU'D LIKE TO GRANT FORWARD BEFORE WE GO BACK TO THE SALARY ISSUE? I HAVE SEVERAL THINGS TOMORROW. OKAY, GO AHEAD. IT'S GONNA TAKE PAST NOON TO GET. WELL, LET'S STAY, MAYBE WE CAN, UH, MAYBE WE CAN STAY. I DUNNO IF KAREN IS, DO YOU HAVE A BREAKDOWN OF EVERY ONE REQUEST, SALARY OR BUDGET? I KNOW WE HAD THAT WORKING. I GAVE THAT, I GAVE THAT TO Y'ALL, BUT I HADN'T A NO SIR. WELL, I FILED MINE SOMEWHERE. I DO HAVE, UH, I ASKED KAREN BECAUSE I WAS CONFUSED ON UH, A COUPLE OF PRECINCT AND UH, I, I, I LOOKED AT WHAT HAD BEEN REQUEST AT ONE TIME. I GOT PRECINCT THREE AND PRECINCT ONE, UH, ON PAGE THIS BIG, BIG PAGE 36 SALARY ELECTION COORDINATOR, 6,000. WE EVEN WE'RE NOT GONNA DO THE ELECTION ADMINISTRATOR THIS YEAR SIX. IT NOT IN, IT'S NOT IN, OKAY. YOU, Y'ALL TOLD ME NOT TO DO. ALRIGHT, I'M JUST DOUBLE CHECK. YEAH, WE DID. OKAY. ALRIGHT. PAGE 37. UH, THAT'S WHERE I HAD MARKED FOR THE, UH, MAINTENANCE SUPERVISOR STILL LEAVING THAT IN. YES, THAT'S CORRECT. YES. AND AS SOON AS WE APPROVED THE BUDGET, ASSUMING WE DO, UH, WE'LL PARK THAT, THAT POSITION. OKAY. PAGE 38. THAT WAS ENTERED TO BY THE SECRETARY. I GOT THAT. PAGE 39, UH, SALARY FIRE MARSHAL. DID IT GO FROM 45 TO 51 2? THAT WAS THE, UH, WE CHANGED FIRE MARSHALS DURING THE COURSE OF THE BUDGET YEAR, I BELIEVE. YES. AND THE FORMER FIRE MARSHAL HAD, UH, LONGEVITY AND MERIT AND PROFESS PAY, I BELIEVE. AND SO THAT WAS THE DIFFERENCE IN THAT RANDY DID NOT HAVE WENT UP. IT WENT UP, IT WENT UP SIX. THAT [00:20:01] WAS ALSO THE RESPONSIBILITY OF TAKING ON THE OTHER TWO DEPARTMENTS WORK ENVIRONMENTAL. YEAH, I WAS JUST LOOKING AT THE FIRE MARSH SOUTH YEAR TO, ARE YOU LOOKING AT THE YEAR TO DATE? NO, MA'AM. UH, MID 15 AND THEN PROPOSED 16. 16. SO WE STILL GOT THE SUPPLEMENT FOR 5,000 STILL IN THERE. SALARY. THAT'S OUR FUND, THAT COST GENERAL FUND, ANYTHING. THERE'S 5,000. I DIDN'T KNOW. AND THAT'S 5,000 FOR THE FIRE MARSHAL AND 5,000 FOR EACH, UH, OF THE PEOPLE, THE TWO PEOPLE UNDER HIM. OKAY. THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION. YOU WEREN'T HERE WHENEVER THAT OH YEAH, I DIDN'T KNOW. OKAY. UH, PAGE 40. IS THAT THE SAME THING THERE ON THE 90 TO 98? THAT'S, UH, THAT'S HOW MANY EMPLOYEES? I DON'T KNOW. THAT IS, THAT'S TWO EMPLOYEES. TWO, OKAY. YES SIR. BUT THAT INCLUDES THE INCREASE AND IT INCLUDES THE LONGEVITY. DID WE APPROVE BOTH PROOF VEST OR ENVIRONMENTAL? HE REQUESTED IT AND IT WAS PUT IN THE BUDGET. OKAY. YES. . YEAH. LET ME, LEMME TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT. THE, UH, GUYS THAT DO THE ENVIRONMENTAL INVESTIGATIONS, AS YOU CAN IMAGINE, SOMETIMES THEY GO TO PRETTY BAD PLACES AND UH, THEY ENCOUNTER, UH, DRUG HOUSES, UH, THAT, YOU KNOW, I MEAN THEY'RE JUST BAD PLACES. AND SO I KNOW THERE WAS SOME QUESTION ABOUT WHETHER THOSE OFFICERS NEEDED BEST AND USE. UH, WE HAD AN INSTANT NOT TOO LONG AGO, I REMEMBER READING ABOUT OVER IN COMMERCE AND THIS WAS THE CITY BUILDING INSPECTOR OR ENVIRONMENTAL OFFICER THAT WENT TO A HOUSE TO INSPECT IT AND, UH, WAS SHOT AND KILLED AND, UH, IN THE LINE OF DUTY. AND I BELIEVE THERE'S OTHER INSTANCES AROUND THE NATION WHERE THEY'VE BEEN ENVIRONMENTAL OFFICERS OR INSPECTORS THAT GO HOUSES AND THAT WAS THE REASON THAT THEY WEAR VEST NOW AND THEIR WEAPONS AS WELL. SO RANDY IS THAT WAS CORRECT THE STATEMENT? YES SIR. THERE'S, THERE'S BEEN NUMEROUS INCIDENCES ACROSS OUR NATION THAT SEVERAL IN TEXAS WHERE THEY OCCURRED. UH, THE OTHER REASON IS BESIDES THEIR ASSIGNED DUTIES AS ENVIRONMENTAL OFFICERS, THEY HAVE GONE THROUGH THE SAME ACADEMIES, THE TRAINING AND SO FORTH. THEY ARE TEXAS PEACE OFFICERS, JUST THE SAME AS A SHERIFF OR A CONSTABLE OR EVERYONE ELSE. AND, UH, FOR THAT REASON, SHOULD A CALL COME OUT FOR AN OFFICER ASSISTANCE. SO WE HAD ONE JUST THE OTHER DAY THAT MY DEPUTIES WERE INVOLVED IN, YOU KNOW, GOING AND THEY'RE RIGHT THERE AND THEY ASSESSED BECAUSE PEACE OFFICERS AND UH, YOU KNOW, FOR THAT REASON TO BEING A PEACE OFFICER, IT'S JUST, I JUST CAN'T SEE US PUTTING A PEACE OFFICER OUT THERE ON THE STREET WITHOUT GAR. OKAY. IS THAT WE PUT 400 HERE FOR THE FIRE MARSHAL FOR YES SIR. NEXT PAGE 44. YOU GOT THAT ONE PAGE 53 EXTENSION SERVICE. WHAT PERCENT OF THEIR SALARY DOES IT STATE PAY? I KNOW LAST YEAR GOING THROUGH THIS THERE WAS DISCUSSION ABOUT THEY RAISE AND THE COUNTY GOT AND ACTUALLY HAVE TWO RACES WHERE OUR EMPLOYEES GOT ONE AND HOW DOES, HOW DOES THAT STATE WILL NOT GIVE THE INFORMATION? WE'VE TRIED TO FIND THAT OUT. YEAH. AND IT'S, UH, IT HAS SOMETHING TO DO WITH THE TENURED EMPLOYEES AND WHAT THEIR TITLE IS AND, BUT I, I'VE, I'VE TRIED PROVE SO FAR THAT'S NOT WAY. WELL I THINK IT WOULD BE, I WOULD THINK IT WOULD BE, BUT THEY WON'T RELEASE IT TO YOU HAVE TO GO THROUGH REQUEST POSITION BEEN A [00:25:01] IN SOUTH TEXAS, NOT THE UP HERE. HOW GOT THE EMAILS TO PROVE IT? I I, I THOUGHT WITH HIM FOR MONTHS COMMISSIONER TRYING TO GET THAT INFORMATION. OKAY. BECAUSE IT WAS BEING QUESTIONED HOW MUCH WE WERE PAYING THEIR SUPPLEMENT, THEIR TRAVEL AND WHAT THEY GET FROM THE STATE. I MEAN, IT WAS QUESTIONED SEVERAL TIMES. THAT'S SO WE CAN DO AN BUT YOU DIDN'T, I SENT A FORM OPEN. WELL, TRAFFIC EXPENSE, UH, CUT BACK PRETTY, UH, PRETTY DRASTICALLY. A FEW WHAT, THREE YEARS AGO? YES, MA'AM. FROM US FROM NOW WAS RIDICULOUS. UH, AT ONE TIME THERE WAS A, UH, NUMBER 1 21 SOMETHING PRETTY EMPTY IT 45, 50 1000. YEAH. IT JUST ALLEN COUNTY. WELL I, THERE WAS, BUT I REMEMBER THIS LAST YEAR AND WE GOT A PRETTY GOOD CAR BALANCE HERE. STILL 6,000. WELL, THE REASON WHY THAT COURT AT THAT TIME HAD THOUGHT ABOUT BUYING VEHICLES TO SAVE THE MONEY AND, YOU KNOW, THEY GET THEIR GAS AND STUFF, BUT THEN THEY HAVE TO PULL HORSE TRAILERS. RIGHT. LIVESTOCK STUFF, YOU KNOW, AND SO THEY THOUGHT, WELL, WE'LL JUST GO DOWN TO THE, TO THE TRAVEL ALLOWANCE AND THEN, THEN ANY OUT ACCOUNT TRAVEL THEY CAN SUBMIT FOR REIMBURSEMENT AND IT'S CUT THAT EXPENSE WAY DOWN. BUT IF YOU WANT US TO PURSUE, UH, TO FIND THAT OUT, I MEAN I'M, WE CAN, I'M JUST CURIOUS. IT LOOK LIKE WE'RE PAY 50. MM-HMM. ALL THOSE, THAT'S THE ONE THAT WE PAID OFF THAT WE DID NOT. RIGHT? YEAH. THE AMERICAN NATIONAL BANK AND ALL THAT. AND THEN THERE WAS, UH, THE TWO IN, UH, PUBLIC WORKS THAT WE DIDN'T BUDGET FOR. MR. HANDED THEM OFF. AND THE LAST TWO LINES ON THAT ITEM 2 1 0 9 MM-HMM . INTEREST. IS IT THE LINE ABOVE THAT? THAT'S THE PRINCIPLE NOW ON THAT LOAN, THAT'S THE RADIO LINE. RADIO EQUIPMENT. THE RADIO. MM-HMM. THERE WAS SOME TALK ABOUT MOVING FOUR H TO THE SOUTH CAMPUS. YEAH. EXCEPT SOUTH CAMPUS IS PRETTY STACKED RIGHT NOW WITH, UH, RECORDS AND STUFF THAT CAME FROM THE UH, UH, DISTRICT CLERK OFFICE THAT, THAT SHE'S IN PROCESS OF DIGITIZING AND I MEAN WE'RE, WE'RE WORKING AS FAST. I'D LIKE FOR HER. UH, SHE PROBABLY NEEDS TO GET EXTRA HELP ON EXTRA HELP JUST GETTING THINGS DONE. THEN THEY CAN DESTROYED, THEY STILL MAINTAIN SOME OF RECORDS ABOUT MAYBE THE BUILDING, SOME ORGANIZATIONS IN MM-HMM. US USING THERE. YEAH. WE, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THAT. AND THAT CLEANED UP THAT PERHAPS THAT WOULD BE A, A SPOT. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.