* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. WELCOME [00:00:01] YOU THIS MORNING TO A SPECIAL MEETING OF THE, UH, KAUFMAN COUNTY COMMISSIONER COURT. TODAY IS WEDNESDAY, UH, SEPTEMBER THE SECOND. UH, AND, UH, THE PURPOSE OF OUR MEETING TODAY WILL BE, UH, PRIMARILY TO, UH, ADOPT OUR, UH, HAVE A HEARING TO TALK ABOUT OUR BUDGET. UH, WE'VE ALSO ALREADY HAD TWO PUBLIC HEARINGS ON THE SETTING OF OUR TAX RATE. AND, UH, THEN WE'LL BE HAVING A DISCUSSION OF, UH, THE COMMISSIONERS WILL BE HAVING, UH, A DISCUSSION AND A VOTE CONCERNING NOT ONLY THE, UH, TAX RATE OF THE SETTING, UH, THIS YEAR, BUT ALSO, UH, THE, UH, UH, BUDGET, UH, THAT HAS BEEN PROPOSED ON, ON ONLY OUR GENERAL OPERATING FUND, BUT OUR INTEREST IN SINK FUND, AS WELL AS THE, UH, UH, DEBT SERVICE FUND AND, AND ALSO THE ROAD BRIDGE FUND IN THAT REGARD. IF YOU HAVE NOT, WE MADE SEVERAL COPIES. THIS IS A SUMMARY, UH, PAGE OF THE PROPOSED COUNTY BUDGET. IT'S, UH, ON THE TABLE OVER THERE. UH, IT'S, UH, ABOUT FIVE OR SIX PAGES LONG. IT'S, AS I SAID, IT IS A SUMMARY. IF YOU'D LIKE TO, UH, HAVE A COPY OF THAT, YOU'RE CERTAINLY, UH, WELCOME TO DO SO. THE ENTIRE BUDGET IS 128 PAGES, UH, LONG, AND IT HAS BEEN POSTED. IT HAS BEEN POSTED FOR SOME TIME, UH, ON THE, UH, COUNTY WEBSITE. AND, UH, I CHOSE NOT TO TAKE PICTURES OF THE ENTIRE, OR PICTURES, MAKE COPIES OF THE ENTIRE, UH, DOCUMENT THIS MORNING. AND SO, UH, BUT IF HE WANTS TO SEE THAT, CERTAINLY IT'LL BE POSTED, UH, AFTER THE BUDGET IS FORMALLY ADOPTED. UH, WE'RE GOING TO DISPENSE WITH THE OPENING, UH, CEREMONIES THIS MORNING, AND WE WILL, UH, CALL THE, UH, MEETING TO ORDER. AND I BELIEVE WE HAVE A FORUM PRESENT, AND WE CERTAINLY DO APPRECIATE, UH, THE FACT THAT WE HAVE A LARGE NUMBER OF PEOPLE HERE TODAY TO JOIN IN WITH THIS DISCUSSION. LET KIND OF, EXCUSE ME, SYSTEM GROUND RULES FAR AS TODAY, UH, THIS IS A PUBLIC MEETING OF THE COURT AND IT IS A JUDICIAL SETTING IN SOME SENSE. IT'S ALSO AN ADMINISTRATIVE SETTING, BUT, UH, IT WILL BE TO DISCUSS IN AN ORDERLY MANNER, UH, THE BUSINESS OF THE COUNTY. AND, UH, I WILL PRESIDE OVER THIS. WE WANT EVERYBODY THAT HAS ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS OR CONCERNS, UH, TO BE ABLE TO EXPRESS THEMSELVES. UH, WE WILL NOT ALLOW, UH, PUBLIC ATTACKS OR ATTACK ON AN INDIVIDUAL, A VERBAL ATTACK. I DON'T THINK WE'LL HAVE ANY PHYSICAL ATTACKS, AT LEAST I HOPE WE, WE'VE GOT SOME LAWS HERE THAT WILL, I'M SURE KEEP US ON STRAIGHT AND NARROW, BUT IT IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR, UH, YOU, UH, EMPLOYEES OR COUNTY CITIZENS TO TALK ABOUT OUR BUDGET. BUT LET'S, LET'S KEEP IT RESPECTFUL. UH, WE ARE GOING TO HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING, AND WE WOULD ASK THAT YOU KEEP YOUR REMARKS TO THREE MINUTES. UH, SINCE IT IS A PUBLIC HEARING, UH, YOU'LL BE ABLE TO ASK QUESTIONS AND WE WILL RESPOND TO THOSE QUESTIONS AS BAD AS BEST WE CAN. AND YOU CAN ADDRESS ANY MEMBER OF THE, UH, COURT, UH, IF YOU'D LIKE TO DO SO IN THAT REGARD. OR YOU CAN JUST MAKE A COMMENT IF YOU ARE HERE AND YOU'RE REPRESENTING A GROUP OF PEOPLE, UH, AND YOU'D LIKE TO, UH, COMBINE YOUR COMMENTS WITH SOMEONE ELSE THAT, UH, IS PERFECTLY OKAY AS WELL. SO WE, UH, DO WE HAVE THE SIGN IN SHEETS, UH, THAT, UH, ARE HERE. UH, WE WILL, UH, CALL YOU BY THE TIME THAT YOU SIGNED IN. UH, AND THEN, UH, WE'LL, UH, CONDUCT A HEARING AS WE WANT TO DO. SO. THE MEETING HAS BEEN CALLED TO ORDER. WE WILL NOW ENTERTAIN A MOTION, UH, TO ENTER INTO A PUBLIC HEARING, HOLD THE, UH, PROPOSED 20 15 20 16, BUT HAVE A MOTION FOR COMMISSIONER SHANE. UH, DO I HAVE A SECOND, UH, COMMISSIONER, UH, ALLEN. SECOND. THE MOTION CALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. THOSE OPPOSED? ALRIGHT, NOW I HAVE A NUMBER, UH, TWO, OR I'M SORRY, NUMBER THREE IS TO CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING. AND, UH, THAT I HAVE SEVERAL NAMES THAT ARE LISTED HERE. WE WOULD ASK THAT YOU COME TO THE MICROPHONE. I WOULD REMIND YOU THAT OUR MEETINGS ARE VIDEO TAPED AND THEY WILL BE AVAILABLE ON THE, UH, UH, COUNTY WEBSITE THROUGH THE COUNTY CLERK'S OFFICE. AND, UH, SO, UH, BUT WE DO NEED YOU TO SPEAK UP AND IDENTIFY YOURSELVES. SO THE FIRST PERSON I HAVE HERE IS JEAN KOHLER, WHO IS FROM THE SCURRY AREA. AND, UH, MS. KOHLER, I, IF YOU'D LIKE TO COME UP AND SPEAK HERE, I BELIEVE YOU WERE HERE, UH, NOT TOO LONG AGO. AND SO WELCOME BACK. THANK YOU. UM, YEAH, I JUST WAS WONDERING IF OUR PROPERTY TAXES ARE GONNA BE INCREASED AND WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE [00:05:01] ROAD MAINTENANCE DONE IN OUR SUBDIVISION BECAUSE FOR 31 YEARS NOTHING HAS BEEN DONE. BUT PATCH JOBS THAT HAVE BEEN WRECKING PEOPLE'S VEHICLES AND THEY CAN GET PRETTY DEEP AND IT JUST SEEMS LIKE WE'RE PAYING OUR TAXES FOR NOTHING. I MEAN, WE'RE JUST LIKE A LITTLE AREA OUT THERE. WE DON'T HAVE A POLICE DEPARTMENT. WE DON'T HAVE A FIRE DEPARTMENT THAT'S PAID FOR BY THE TAXES. IT'S VOLUNTEER. WE DON'T HAVE ANY PROGRAMS LIKE OTHER CITIES DO, AND WE JUST FEEL LIKE WE'RE SHORTCHANGED. OKAY. ARE YOU ASKING ME THOSE QUESTIONS? YEAH. I'M ASKING IF OUR TAXES ARE GONNA BE INCREASED TAXES. IF WE CAN HAVE MAINTENANCE DONE, THE TAXES WILL NOT BE INCREASED. THE TOTAL TAX RATE WILL STAY THE SAME. OKAY. WE ARE INCREASING WITHIN THAT TAX RATE. AND THERE'S A DOCUMENT THAT YOU HAVE IN THAT HANDOUT. MM-HMM . WITHIN THAT TAX RATE, THERE'S THREE MAJOR FUNDS. THERE IS THE GENERAL OPERATING FUND OR MAINTENANCE AND OPERATING FUND THAT OPERATES THE GENERAL COUNTY GOVERNMENT. THERE'S ALSO THE INTEREST IN SINKING FUND AND THAT PAYS OFF ANY DEBT THAT WE HAVE OUT THERE THAT WE NEED TO PAY FOR. AND THEN THE OTHER ONE IS THE ROAD AND BRIDGE FUND. AND ACTUALLY, UH, WE'RE PLEASED TO, UH, ANNOUNCE AND YOU'LL SEE THAT WE ARE MOVING, UH, WE'VE MOVED SOME ADDITIONAL MONEY INTO THE ROAD AND RIDGE FUND, UH, IN THE AMOUNT OF ABOUT $1.2 MILLION THAT WILL GO TOWARDS IMPROVING COUNTY GROVE. I BELIEVE THAT MAKES A TOTAL OF ABOUT $8 MILLION. WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO INCREASE THAT AMOUNT OVER THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS. AND SO, UH, THIS WILL BE THE HIGHEST AMOUNT, UH, DOLLAR WISE, UH, MAYBE NOT CENTRAL WISE, BUT DOLLAR WISE THAT THE COMMISSIONERS HAVE RECEIVED, UH, I THINK IN MANY, MANY YEARS PERHAPS EVER. SO THERE WILL BE ADDITIONAL FUNDS AS FAR AS YOUR SPECIFIC ROADS ARE CONCERNED, IT WOULD BE, YOU WOULD NEED TO WORK WITH YOUR COMMISSIONER AND I BELIEVE THAT WOULD BE, UH, UH, COMMISSIONER ALLEN. AND I'M SURE HE WOULD, UH, UH, WELCOME THE OPPORTUNITY. I PROMISED YOU AT THE LAST MEETING, I WOULD, UH, COME OUT TO THE, UH, TO YOUR AREA AND I WILL, I JUST HAVEN'T DONE THAT YET. OKAY. AND THEN, UM, WELL, UM, IS, IS IT, IS IT TIME FOR ME TO SAY ASK ABOUT THE TAX, THE TAX INCREASE FOR THE COUNTY EMPLOYEES? OR DO I WAIT FOR ANOTHER TIME? YOU NOW'S THE TIME THAT TALK ABOUT THE BUDGET AND IT IS NOT A TAX INCREASE FOR COUNTY EMPLOYEE. THAT IS A WAGE INCREASE AND IT TAXPAYERS YES, BUT THERE WAS NO TAX INCREASE TO NO. OKAY. TOTAL TAX RATE STAYS THE SAME. OKAY. THAT'S WHAT I NEEDED TO CLARIFY. ACTUALLY, THE MONEY THAT GOES INTO THE GENERAL FUND DROPS BY 1 CENT. SO ACTUALLY WE ARE ABLE TO, UH, PROPOSE, UH, A GENERAL ACROSS THE BOARD RAISE OF $1,200, UH, FOR MOST COUNTY EMPLOYEES. THERE ARE SOME OTHER COUNTY EMPLOYEES, FOR EXAMPLE, LAW ENFORCEMENT AND THE PEOPLE THAT WORK IN OUR COUNTY JAIL THAT ARE GONNA GET A 2050. WELL SHOULD RIGHT. AS WELL SHOULD. SO, UH, THAT'S ALL BUILT INTO THE BUDGET. OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH APPRECIATE YOUR DAY. NEXT IS RONNIE OFIELD, OUR TREASURER. MR. OFIELD, YOU LIKE TO COME UP? THANK YOU, JUDGE. WHAT A GREAT DAY. CALL COUNTY. SEE SO MANY PEOPLE INTERESTED IN THE BUSINESSES COUNTY REFRESHING. AND I WANNA COMPLIMENT THE COURT AND JUDGE, UH, ON SKILLFULLY PREPARING A BUDGET. UM, IT WAS INTERESTING TO SEE ALL OF THE DEPARTMENT HEADS AND OTHER ELECTED OFFICIALS SO SKILLFULLY ADVOCATING FOR THEIR NEEDS AND FOR THEIR EMPLOYEES. AND THE, THE THING THAT HAS BEEN CONSISTENT IN EVERYBODY'S DISCUSSIONS IS WE'VE GOT TO BE AWARE OF THE NEED TO BUILD FUND VALUES AND WE CAN LOOK ON THE HORIZON AND SEE THE NEXT EVENT THAT IS GOING TO CURTAIL OUR ADV TAX REVENUES UPON WHICH WE RELY WIDELY. AND, UM, THERE'S THE RUB. YOU KNOW, I THINK AS WE GO THROUGH THE YEAR, UH, UH, Y'ALL DID NOT BUDGET ALL THE REVENUES THAT YOU THOUGHT WOULD COME IN. AND THAT'S TO BE APPLAUDED. AND I BELIEVE THAT EVERYONE IS COMMITTED. AND AS WE GO THROUGH THE 20 15, 20 16 YEAR AS ADDITIONAL REVENUES COME TO FRUITION, I BELIEVE THAT WE ALL ARE COMPELLED TO REMEMBER THE NEED TO BUILD THE FUND BALANCE AT THE END OF THE YEAR. SO THANK YOU'ALL FOR ALL OF YOUR SKILL, UH, A GREAT OUTCOME. UM, IF WE CAN, UH, OPERATE DURING 20 15, 20 16, MINDFUL OF THE NEED TO, UH, BUILD FUND BALANCE EVEN THOUGH [00:10:01] IT'S NOT BUDGETED. THANK YOU, GENTLEMEN, FOR ALL YOUR WORK. THANK YOU, MR. OFIELD. NEXT WOULD BE PAM CARTER. GOOD MORNING. I JUST WANNA SAY THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION IN THE 1200 RAISE FOR ALL OF THEM, OUR EMPLOYEES. UM, I KNOW THE EMPLOYEES THAT HAVE THEIR CHILDREN, FAMILY MEMBERS ON THEIR HEALTH INSURANCE, HEALTH INSURANCE WENT UP THIS YEAR AND THAT WILL ACTUALLY HELP THEM BE ABLE TO PAY FOR THEIR, THAT INCREASE OF THE INSURANCE. SO I WANNA, I REALLY AM IN APPRECI OF THAT AND I JUST WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW THAT. OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. NEXT WOULD BE, UH, BRIAN, BE THANK YOU. MORNING JUDGE. COMMISSIONER, THANK FOR TAKING THE TIME, UH, FOR LETTING US SPEAK. ONE THING I WANT THANK YOU IS ALL THE COMMISSIONERS AND JUDGE FOR DOING AN OUTSTANDING JOB AND PLENTY OF WORKSHOPS LISTENING TO ALL THE DEPARTMENT HEAD AND GETTING EVERYTHING TOGETHER TO GET THIS BUDGET. MR. COOPER, I GREATLY APPRECIATE YOUR HARD WORK AND EVERYTHING YOU'VE DONE. UNBELIEVABLE UNDERSTAND HOW MUCH WORK THAT YOU PUT INTO THIS AND AS MANY PEOPLE YOU HAVE TO DEAL WITH, UH, BECAUSE SHE HAS PROBABLY THE HARDEST JOB OF ANY OF US HERE TRYING TO GET THIS TOGETHER. SO I APPRECIATE ALL YOUR WORK, YOU, KW AND EVERYBODY. HARD WORK. THANK YOU. UH, THE ONE THING I WOULD LIKE TO SAY IS THANK YOU. SHE GETS A LITTLE CROWD HERE, HERE EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE. ALL THE TIME. , THAT'S ALL. SHE KEEPS US ON HER TOES. SHE KEEPS US ON STRAIGHT AND NARROW. WE APPRECIATE THE WORK SHE DOES WITH WITH OUR OFFICE. UH, ONE THING WE'D LIKE TO SAY IS, THANK YOU FOR LOOKING AT THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE AND ALL THE EMPLOYEES AS A WHOLE IN THE COUNTY. UH, THEY NEEDED THE RAISE. THE COUNTY AS A WHOLE NEEDED THE RAISE. THEY NEED TO KNOW THAT THEY'RE WILLING, UH, EMPLOYEES, UH, AND I APPRECIATE YOU LOOKING AT EACH AND EVERY ONE OF THEM BECAUSE THE ONE THING ABOUT THIS, NO MATTER WHAT, WHO THE PEOPLE ELECT, THE PEOPLE THAT ARE DOING THE JOB, THE THE DAY-TO-DAY WORKERS ARE THE ONES THAT KEEP THIS COUNTY GOING NO MATTER WHAT. AT THE END OF THE DAY, THEY ARE THE ONES THAT'S DOING THE JOB. SO WE'VE GOTTA RECOGNIZE AND KEEP THEM EMPLOYED. AND I APPRECIATE YOU LOOKING AT THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE AND VALUING ALL THE INFORMATION THAT WE PUT TOGETHER IN A COUPLE OF MONTHS TO SHOW WHERE WE STAND AS A SHERIFF'S OFFICE AS A WHOLE AND WHAT IT TAKES TO MAINTAIN THESE PEOPLE. AND THE REASON BEHIND THAT IS, UH, THE PART OF THE 4.2 MILLION OVER THE LAST FIVE YEARS, I MEAN, A 94% TURNOVER RATE OUT THERE IN FIVE YEARS, IT'S TOUGH ON US. IT'S HARD TO MAINTAIN PEOPLE AND KEEP MORALE. SO I WANNA APPRECIATE Y'ALL FOR DOING THAT. THANK YOU. AND LIKE I SAY, WE LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING IN THE NEXT FEW BUDGETS AND, AND I KNOW Y'ALL GOT THIS, UH, STEP PROGRAM THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT OUT THERE AND TRYING TO KEEP THAT MOTIVATED, KEEP THAT GOING AND PEOPLE SOMETHING TO LOOK AT. SO WE APPRECIATE IT AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. BRIAN. UH, NEXT ISLE. GOOD MORNING. GOOD MORNING. I ALSO WOULD LIKE TO THANK THE COMMISSIONERS FOR CONSIDERING THE $1,200 RAISE FOR EVERY EMPLOYEE. I DON'T BELIEVE IN SINGLING OUT CERTAIN EMPLOYEES AND CHERRY PICKING. UM, WE HAVE CONSISTENTLY AS COURT REPORTERS FOR KAMAN COUNTY BEEN UNDERPAID. I HAVE THE URGE TO SHOW THAT I CAN HEAR IN OTHER COUNTIES, BUT OUR DISTRICT JUDGES HAS HAVE FAITHFULLY ONLY GIVEN US THE SAME RANGE THAT EACH AND EVERY OTHER EMPLOYEE GETS. SO I GUESS MY QUESTION IS, LOOKING AT SOME OF THE PROPOSALS FROM SOME OF THE, UH, COMMISSIONERS, I'M QUITE CURIOUS AS TO WHY SOMEONE THAT'S BEEN HERE FOR TWO MONTHS IN PRECINCT FOUR DESERVES A $3,500 RAISE. ONE THAT'S BEEN HERE FOR 5.1 A $4,000 RAISE IN PRECINCT THREE. WE HAVE SEVERAL. ONE THAT'S BEEN HERE ONE MONTH, A $6,000 RAISE. ALL OF THESE EMPLOYEES HERE HAVE SPENT YEARS AND YEARS DEDICATED TO THIS COUNTY. THEY ARE ALL EXPERIENCED, THEY ALL HAVE TRAINING. A LOT OF US HOLD LICENSES. I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY SOMEONE THAT'S BEEN HERE ONE MONTH DESERVES $6,000. AND IF THE COMMISSIONERS COULD EXPLAIN THAT TO ME, I WOULD REALLY APPRECIATE IT. COMMISSIONER, YOU HAVE ANY INSIGHT INTO THAT? THESE GUYS HOME LICENSES JUST LIKE YOU DO, THEY, THEY PAY FOR THEIR LICENSE. SO, AND TROUBLE LICENSE COST $140. [00:15:01] I THINK FOR THEM TO KEEP THEIR LICENSE EVERY YEAR, THEY PAY POCKET FOR A LOT LESS MONEY THAN YOU DO. AND MY GUYS WERE JUST BARELY OUTTA THE POVERTY LEVEL WORKING FOR THE COUNTY. AND I HAD DILIGENCE OF TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT I GOT KIDS LIKE Y'ALL DO. AND, UH, THEY HAVE THE WHOLE JOB. THEY CAN OPERATE 260,000 PIECE OF EQUIPMENT AND EVERYTHING I HAVE IN MY YARD THAT'S NOT OPERATE. SO, UH, MA'AM, I DON'T, UH, I DON'T TAKE THAT LIGHTLY. I EXPERIENCE AND I HAVE, I HAVE EXPERIENCED PIPES IN THAT WHOLE PANEL. YES. AND I HAVE 38 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE, BUT YOU'RE NOT LOOKING AT GETTING ME A $6,000 RAISE, SIR. SOME OF THESE OFFICERS HAVE 20 TO 25 YEARS EXPERIENCE AND YOU'RE NOT LOOKING AT GIVING THEM A $6,000 RAISE, SIR. AND WE HAVE LICENSES THAT HAVE TO BE RENEWED EVERY YEAR, JUST LIKE THOSE EMPLOYEES. AND THEY KNEW THE REQUIREMENTS WHEN THEY WERE HIRED FOR THE JOB. THANK YOU. OKAY. NEXT WOULD BE, UH, JODY STEWART. JODY IF YOU COME FORWARD. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. THANK YOU JUDGE. UM, GOOD MORNING. UM, I WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK SPECIFICALLY TO THE, UM, PAY INCREASE FOR THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT. UM, I WOULD LIKE TO THANK THE COURT FOR THE CONSIDERATION, UM, THAT YOU'RE GIVING US. UM, AS I'VE BEEN A SHERIFF'S DEPUTY FOR 14 AND A HALF YEARS AND, UM, I'M A DEPUTY SHERIFF 24 7. THAT INCLUDES SOFTBALL GAMES, PICNICS, WHATEVER QUESTIONS, YOU KNOW, FROM FRIENDS AND NEIGHBORS IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT. AND I'M PROUD TO DO IT. UM, AND THAT GOES WITH JUST ABOUT EVERYBODY I WORK WITH. SO, UM, WE DON'T TURN THE SWITCH OFF, BUT I REALLY APPRECIATE, UM, THE COURT TAKING THE TIME TO GO OVER THE PAY SURVEY THAT WAS DONE AND, UM, CONSIDER EVERYTHING THAT WAS PUT BEFORE YOU. UM, IN MY TIME AT THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE, I'VE SEEN A LOT OF YOUNG DEPUTIES COME AND GO. UM, THEY BEGIN THEIR CAREERS WITH US, THEY'RE THERE FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS AND THEN THEY GO ON TO, YOU KNOW, UM, HIGHER PAYING POSITIONS AT DIFFERENT AGENCIES. UM, WE LOST A LOT OF GOOD TALENT. UM, SO I APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT THE COURT IS, UM, WILLING TO TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION AND, UM, HELP US MAINTAIN THESE EMPLOYEES. UM, I WOULD LOVE TO SEE SOME MORE PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN IN THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE FOR 14 YEARS WHEN I'M 30, THIS IS MY CAREER, THIS IS WHERE I'M GONNA END MY CAREER, I HOPE. UM, SO I APPRECIATE THAT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. OKAY. THAT'S ALL THE, UH, INDIVIDUALS THAT I HAVE THAT ARE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK TO THE COURT. UH, WE'RE GOING TO CONCLUDE THE PUBLIC HEARING JUST IN A MOMENT, BUT I DO NOT WANT TO EXCLUDE ANYONE THAT'S HERE THAT WOULD LIKE TO, UH, ADDRESS THE COURT AT THIS POINT IN TIME. IS THERE ANY OTHER CITIZEN OR EMPLOYEE OR UH, PERSON THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE COURT BEFORE WE CONCLUDE THE, UH, PUBLIC HEARING? MS. HOUSTON, I BASICALLY AM BRINGING TO THE COURT A REVISED EDITION OF THE RECORDS OR TAX PLAN IT ADDS IN LEASE OF OFFICE SPACE AND ALLOCATE SOME OF THE FUNDS THAT ARE IN THERE. THIS IS NOT, THIS IS JUST THE ALLOCATION OF THE FUNDS THAT ARE CURRENTLY IN THAT ACCOUNT. AND I TALKED TO HEARING YESTERDAY ABOUT IT AND SHE SAID THAT BRING IT FORWARD AND OKAY. AND THIS IS OUT OF THE, NOT OUT THE GENERAL FUND, IT'S OUT OF THE, UH, RECORD. IT'S UH, OUT OF THE FUND THAT'S ON PAGE ONE 16 OF THE BUDGET DOCUMENT. OKAY. IT'S THE, UH, COUNTY CLERK'S RECORDS OF ARCHIVE AND THIS IS FOR THE LEASE OF A BILLING FOR STORAGE OF THE RECORDS, I BELIEVE. OKAY. COMMISSIONER, Y'ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT? OKAY. UH, AUDITOR, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE THAT NEEDS TO BE BROUGHT COURT ATTENTION BEFORE WE MOVE OUT OF THE PUBLIC HEARING? YES SIR. CALL SOME STUFF TO YOUR ATTENTION. THANK YOU FOR ASKING. SURE, THANK YOU. THANKS K. THANKS TO KW AND UH, TECHNOLOGY. THOUGHT YOU MIGHT LIKE TO LOOK AT THIS. THIS IS, UH, THE 2016 BUDGET PROPOSED 2015 AND [00:20:01] 2015 QUARTER THREE, WHICH WOULD'VE ENDED JUNE 30TH. JUST TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF WHERE OUR MONEY GOES IN EXPENDITURES. OF COURSE EVERYBODY KNOWS MOST OF ITS SALARY AND BENEFITS, SO I THOUGHT THAT INFORMATION MIGHT HELP YOU. UH, BEHIND EACH ONE IS THE ACTUAL INFORMATION AND NUMBERS. SO YOU CAN LOOK AT THE PERCENTAGES IN THE AMOUNTS. I THOUGHT THAT MIGHT HELP YOU A LITTLE BIT SEEING WHERE THAT MONEY'S GONNA BE SPREAD OUT. UH, OUR LAST MEETING WE HAD A FEW MINOR CHANGES. I WANNA GO OVER THOSE CHANGES WITH YOU BECAUSE THEY'RE INCLUDED IN THIS BUDGET THAT WAS EMAILED TO Y'ALL. I THINK IT WAS FRIDAY, RIGHT? THURSDAY EMAIL, FRIDAY MR. BUR. OKAY. UM, YOU HAD SOME DEPARTMENTS THAT CAME BACK TO YOU SECOND, THIRD TIME ASKING FOR SOME ADDITIONAL FUNDING FOR DIFFERENT THINGS AND UH, I ALREADY HAD BUDGET BALANCED SO I HAD TO GO FIND ADDITIONAL MONIES AND I WANTED TO GO THROUGH THAT. OUR MIXED BEVERAGE DRINKS, I UNDERESTIMATE PROBABLY IN THE LAST TWO YEARS WHAT WE'RE NOT GONNA GET. 'CAUSE WE HAD BEEN TOLD AT ONE TIME BY THE STATE IT MIGHT GO AWAY, BUT IT KEEPS INCREASING. SO I NEEDED $10,320. SO I INCREASED IT BY THAT MUCH. UM, WINDMILL, SRO, THIS IS OUR THIRD YEAR IN THAT AGREEMENT. THEY WERE TO REIMBURSE US FOR THE OFFICER SALARY BENEFITS UNIFORM PLUS THIS IS THEIR THIRD YEAR TO HELP PAY FOR THE VEHICLE. SO I ONLY ESTIMATED THE SALARY AND THE STUFF THAT GOES WITH IT AND NOT THE VEHICLE. SO THIS IS HOW I'M, I COME UP WITH EXTRA 30 1005 50 IN REVENUES AND THAT OKAY WITH YOU. YOU UNDERSTAND WHERE I'M COMING FROM? YEAH. AND I GAVE YOU THE TWO LINE ITEMS SO YOU COULD SEE WHERE I . OKAY. WHY I NEEDED THAT EXTRA 31 5 50 IS BECAUSE COUNTY COURT AT LAW TWO CAME BACK TO YOU AND ASKED YOU TO ADJUST THAT COURT COORDINATOR SALARY BY 1200. WHEN I DO THAT, I HAVE TO HIT FICA MEDICARE IN RETIREMENT. SO THOSE ARE THE CHANGES I MADE. 1200 TO 92 1 15 DISTRICT CLERK COME BACK AND ASK FOR THE SAME TRAVEL ALLOWANCE, VEHICLE ALLOWANCE THAT THE COUNTY CLERK HAS. SO I HAD TO UP IT BY 3,800. SHE ALREADY HAD IN 12 THEN ASKED FOR AN ADDITIONAL MONEY TO BE IN HER COURT TIME TO HELP WITH THE COPYING OF THE RECORDS AND THINGS THAT SHE'S DOING ON, WHICH WAS $880. F IS NINE 70, RETIREMENT, 8 71 PURCHASING PAYMENT, ASKED FOR AN ADDITIONAL BUYER. 32 5. THE F IS 24 86. THE RETIREMENT, 31 34 HUMAN RESOURCES YOUR COUNTY AUDITOR MADE IN ERROR BY $76. SO I'M ASKING THAT WE FIX THAT. PUBLIC WORKS. I, I TOOK $2,500 FROM HIS GAS AND OIL BECAUSE HE ONLY HAS ONE VEHICLE. THE OTHER VEHICLE WAS MOVED TO I THAT Y'ALL APPROVED FOR GIS AND ALL THE ADDITIONAL DUTIES THAT HE'S DOING. UH, LAST COMMISSIONER'S MEETING, UH, THE GRANT OFFICER HANCOR BROUGHT TO YOU A GRANT FOR THE ADMISSIONS OFFICER, WHICH YOU APPROVED IN THAT GRANT. WHEN I WAS GIVEN A COPY OF IT, I CORRECTED A FEW THINGS 'CAUSE THE FIGURES WEREN'T JUST RIGHT AND THEN THERE WAS SOME ADDITIONAL THINGS ASKED FOR. SO THE SALARY IS AT 42 5 9 1 PLUS THE FO RETIREMENT. THERE WAS OFFICE SUPPLIES, AMMUNITION, PARTS AND REPAIRS FOR THE VEHICLE. GAS AND OIL DEALS, MILES, TRAINING BONDS, UNIFORMS, DUES, MISCELLANEOUS. THEN I SHOWED YOU WHERE I SUBTRACTED THAT 30,544 GRAND. ALTHOUGH I INCREASED THAT BUDGET BY ALL THOSE NUMBERS, I REDUCED IT BECAUSE OF THAT GRANT. THAT'S THE WAY WE ACCOUNT FOR IT. [00:25:02] OKAY. CONSTABLE PRECINCT FOUR CAME TO YOU AND ASKED FOR ADDITIONAL 10,000 ON HIS PART-TIME HELP. THAT'S THE BIGGEST PRECINCT AND Y'ALL APPROVED THAT. SO THAT WAS THE COST OF THAT. BUT THE FACT IN RETIREMENT, THAT COMPUTER BUDGET INCREASED BY $1,500. THE REASON WHY, I MEAN THE REASON WHY IS BECAUSE IT'S FOR AN AIR CARD AND MOBILE PHONE FOR THE ADMISSIONS OFFICER. AND I WASN'T GONNA PUT 1500 IN A PRECINCT TWO BUDGET FOR THAT WHEN EVERYBODY ELSE'S ACCOUNTING FOR IN THAT COMPUTER FUND. SO I PUT 1500 IN THERE, COVER THAT COST. SO I WANTED YOU TO BE AWARE OF THOSE BIGGER CHANGES LIKE THAT AND WHY IT, THAT'S THE GAS AND WALL FOR THE VEHICLE THAT TOOK AWAY FROM PUBLIC WORKS. THIS IS DEMAND TRANSFER FROM ONE DEPARTMENT TO ANOTHER. JUVENILE PROBATION BOARD REQUESTED AN ADDITIONAL 6,000 AND UH, I WORKED THAT INTO THE BUDGET. SO THE TOTAL CHANGES THAT WERE BROUGHT TO ME WERE $98,610. I ONLY HAD 66,000 4 0 9 IN THE CONTINGENCY LINE ITEM. AND UH, I HAD TO MAKE AN CORRECTION TO THE HEALTHY COUNTY OF 6 51 AND I NEEDED $31,550 TO BALANCE THE BUDGET. AND THAT'S WORTH TOOK IT TO ADDITIONAL TWO REVENUE LINE THAT I WENT OVER ON THE FIRST PAGE. AND TO YOUR KNOWLEDGE, THIS IS ALL REQUESTS THAT HAVE BEEN, UH, THE, THAT WE TALKED ABOUT OUR LAST MEETING. IS THAT CORRECT? YES SIR. THESE, THESE CATCH UP CATCH US UP TODAY, OKAY. AND IT'S OFFSET WITH THE REVENUE THAT WE HAVE, THE 31,000. OKAY? OKAY. NOW WE CAME UP WITH ANOTHER ISSUE AFTER I ALREADY EMAILED YOU THE BUDGET AND I WAS NOT GONNA CHANGE IT. WE SEND YOU ANOTHER COPY AND IT GET CONFUSING. ALRIGHT? IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT CONSTABLE PRECINCT TWO, WHEN THEY WERE TALKING TO YOU, ASKED FOR AN ADDITIONAL $5,000 IN THEIR PARTNER. EVERYBODY AT ONE TIME HAD 20,000. ALRIGHT? PRECINCT ONE GAVE UP HIS WHOLE 15. HE DIDN'T EVEN HAVE THE 20. OKAY? SO ACCORDING TO THE WAY WE HAVE DONE THE 1200, YOU HAD TO BE AN EMPLOYEE AS OF APRIL 1ST TO THE CURRENT YEAR TO GET THAT 1200. MS. HUGHES HAD SOME PEOPLE RETIRE AND THERE'S TWO POSITIONS THAT I DIDN'T KNOW HAD BEEN REPLACED THAT SHE HAS LIKE $2,800 TOO MUCH IN HER LINE AND SHE STARTED PEOPLE AT BASE ENTRY LEVEL. ALRIGHT, I HAVE TO COME UP WITH ABOUT $5,600 TO COVER THAT $5,000 INCREASE IN THAT PART-TIME. I NEED TO KNOW IF YOU WANT ME TO DO THAT SO I CAN GET THAT APPROVED TODAY AND YOU KNOW THAT I'M GONNA HAVE TO INCREASE THE REVENUE OR DECREASE IN EXPENDITURE, BUT I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING LEFT IN CONTINGENCY. I LACK IT OUT. ASKED YOU FOR, WELL, IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, WE, WE'VE BEEN VERY CONSERVATIVE IN THE AMOUNT THAT WE HAVE BUDGETED FOR THE US MARSHALS CONTRACT, UH, ON PURPOSE BECAUSE MAKING SURE THAT IF SOMETHING HAPPENED TO THAT CONTRACT DURING THE YEAR, UH, I BELIEVE WE AM A SMALL TO GO THERE AND BE MY RECOMMENDATION THAT WE JUST INCREASE THE, UH, REVENUE FROM THE MARSHALL THAT SAME TIME TO PUT INTO THIS, UH, REQUEST FROM CONSTABLE PRECINCT. I DO REMEMBER, I, YOU, I REMEMBER WE TALKED ABOUT THAT AND I THAT AND UH, OKAY I NEED 5,865 TO GIVE THAT TO YOU. OKAY? SO I WILL, AS LONG AS YOU LET ME KNOW, I'LL INCREASE A LINE ITEM OR DECREASE SOMETHING ELSE IF I CAN FIND IT. WHATEVER Y'ALL WANT ME TO DO, I JUST NEED Y TELL YOU WHAT TO DO. I JUST SUGGESTED INCREASING THE AMOUNT OF FUNDING THAT WE'LL GET FROM THE US MARSHAL CONTRACT. 'CAUSE AGAIN, WE'VE BEEN VERY, VERY CONSERVATIVE ON WHAT WE EXPECTED TO RECEIVE OR WILL RECEIVE FROM THAT. SO I BELIEVE THAT WOULD BE AS BUDGET OFFICER, THAT'D BE MY RECOMMENDATION THAT WE INCREASE THAT. THAT'S FINE TO ME. I JUST NEED Y'ALL TO TELL ME YOUR HONOR AGREEMENT. I [00:30:01] AGREE WITH THAT. ALRIGHT, ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT GUYS? I DIDN'T SEND AN EMAIL. IT MIGHT HAVE BEEN THE FORM. IT WAS YES. AND THE EMAIL WAS SENT OUT AND YOU HAD ALREADY MADE THE CORRECTIONS IN YOUR PAPERWORK FOR THE COST, CORRECT? I WAS, I WAS GIVEN THIS INFORMATION HERE. MS. PAM CORRECTED IT, BUT WHEN I WENT OVER IT, I HAD TO FIX IT AND PUT EVERYTHING IN THAT LINE ITEM BECAUSE THE, THE GRANT WHERE WE BUDGET FOR THE MONEY TO COME IN IS JUST TO TRANSFER TO THE GENERAL FUND TO COVER HIS SALARY AND BENEFITS AND STUFF, RIGHT? SO I HAD TO INCREASE THOSE LINE ITEMS TO COVER EVERYTHING THEY ASKED THAT HE'S OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF THE AUDITOR BEFORE WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING? I, I GOT, UH, A COUPLE. ONE BEING THE, UH, THE OUTSIDE AUDITOR RECOMMENDED THAT WE HAVE THREE MONTHS ENOUGH MONEY TO PAY FOR THREE MONTHS FOR THE UPCOMING THIS BUDGET ACCOUNT. FOR THAT IT WOULD TAKE ALL OF OUR OWN BALANCE. WE WOULD PROBABLY HAVE TO STOP, YOU KNOW, ANY UNNECESSARY SPENDING. LIKE SOMEBODY WAS GOING OUT TO BUY VEHICLES OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. WE HAVE ASK THEM NOT TO DO THAT TO, WE GOT THE MONEY IN, BUT WE WOULD'VE IS OUR THREE MONTHS WORTH OF MONEY WE HAD PRETTY CLOSE. YEAH, WE'D BE VERY TIGHT, BUT WE COULD PROBABLY JUST SWING BEHIND DO IT. WE HAD 2.2 MEANING AT THE END OF THE LAST BUDGET YEAR, AND IT'S MY STRONG THAT CAUSE OF THE US MARSHALS CONTRACT AND THE UNDERSTANDING WE HAVE IN SOME BUDGETS THAT WE'RE GOING ADD SEVERAL HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS TO THAT THIS YEAR. UH, BUT FUND BALANCE IS SOMETHING WE DO NEED TO WORK ON AND WE'VE MADE MARK OF PROGRESS OVER THE LAST THIRD FIVE YEARS AND I BELIEVE THIS BUDGET WILL EVEN CAUSE YEAH, WE HAD A NEGATIVE 1.6 AND I LEAVING EVEN THOUGH THAT'S ONE OF REASON WE PUT OFF THE OTHER PART OF THE RAISE FOR THE, THE END OF THE YEAR TO MAKE SURE THAT WE, WE, THAT MAKE SURE THAT MONEY, I HAVE THAT IN CONTINGENCY LINE ITEM THAT Y'S ATTENTION SO YOU KNOW WHERE IT WAS AT TO BE NOW THEY'RE ONLY GETTING 12 BUDGET TIME NEXT YEAR. WE'LL SEE WHAT WE ACTUALLY YEAH, WE WILL KNOW BY BEFORE BUDGET TIME NEXT YEAR. I MEAN WON'T, WE'RE NOT GOING DELAY THE EIGHT 50. IT'LL BE THERE. UH, WHAT I RECOMMENDED THAT WE DO, AND I SAID THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA, WE SET ASIDE 500,000 OUTTA THIS YEAR'S BUDGET TO PAY DOWN ON THE, UH, RADIO. AND THEN WE'VE GOT AN ADDITIONAL 500,000 THAT NOT SPEND THIS YEAR FOR THE LAST THREE MONTHS OF THE FEDERAL BUDGET. UH, SO THAT SHOULD BE ANOTHER. AND SO IN FACT, UH, IF YOU LOOK AT THE BUDGET PAGE THING I YOU AT BEGINNING THE MEETING, UH, THIS SLOWLY YOU'LL SEE THE AUDIENCE HAS THE SAME UH, THING. YOU LOOK THIS HERE WHERE SAYS 16 WORKING BUDGET, YOU TURN TO THE FRONT PAGE, UH, YOU'LL SEE THAT'S THE GENERAL FUND SUMMARY. THERE ARE THREE FUNDS, THERE ARE ALL THREE UH, UH, DOCUMENTS HERE. THERE'S THE GENERAL FUND SUM SUMMARY, THERE'S THE, UH, INTEREST AND SINKING FUND SUMMARY AND THERE'S ALSO THE, UH, UH, ROAD BRIDGE FUND SUMMARY SUMMARY. UH, BUT YOU'LL SEE THAT, UH, IF YOU RETURN TO PAGE THREE, IF YOU'LL LOOK DOWN TO THE NEXT TO THE COLUMN, THE SECOND COLUMN FROM THE RIGHT DOWN AT THE VERY BOTTOM WHERE IT TALKS ABOUT HEAD REVIEWS, UM, UH, AND WHERE WE ARE AS OF I BELIEVE AUGUST THE 25TH, UH, WE SHOW A, UH, SURPLUS THIS YEAR OF $3,814,000, EIGHT HUNDRED THREE THOUSAND THREE MILLION EIGHT HUNDRED FOURTEEN A 62 OF FUNDS THAT HAVE NOT BEEN SPENT. NOW WE STILL HAVE ANOTHER MONTH TO GO, UH, IN EXPENDITURES, BUT, UH, AND AT LEAST TWO PAY PERIODS, MAYBE FREE. BUT WE'VE BEEN VERY CAREFUL ON WHAT [00:35:01] WE'VE ADJUSTED THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT WE RECEIVED THIS YEAR UNDER ESTIMATED, I BELIEVE SIGNIFICANTLY WHILE WE'LL RECEIVE THE LAST THREE MONTHS OF THE, UH, FISCAL YEAR FOR THE US MARSHALS CONTRACT. AND, UH, SO, UH, I THAT MUST BE ALL WE HAVE SOME DEPARTMENTS, BELIEVE IT OR NOT, THAT DO NOT SPEND ALL OF THEIR BUDGET, YOU KNOW, THEY, THEY HOLD IT ON IT BACK TO HIM AND THAT HELPS US AS WELL. SO, UH, COMMISSIONER, I'M VERY CLEAR WE'RE OVER A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT, WHICH IS WHAT WE'VE TRIED TO DO AND, AND WHAT OUR OUTSIDE AUDITOR EQUIP TO DO. SO THAT'S, THAT'S GREAT BECAUSE ONE ISSUE THAT I KEEP GOING BACK TOS CONTRACT, AND I KNOW JOHN LONG SAID THAT, UH, IT, IT'S OKAY, BUT IT SAYS IN CONTRACT THAT YOU'LL 7,500 A MONTH FOR AND IT DOESN'T SAY WE'RE GONNA GET THE BILL. IT'S A 10 YEAR CONTRACT BILL, YOU'RE NOT BUDGET FOR THAT. I'D LIKE TO SEE THAT BE ADDRESSED THIS COMING YEAR SO THAT WE KNOW WHEN WE'RE GONNA GET THE BILL 10 IN WRITING. WE OWE CUSTOMER SHALL I BELIEVE JUDGE WILEY AND THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE HAS ASKED US NOT TO TALK ABOUT THAT AND BUDGET THAT IN THIS SESSION BECAUSE INVITING THEM TO SUE US. IS THAT CORRECT? IS THAT WHAT YOU'VE BEEN TOLD? SHE DID NOT WANT ADDRESS IT? THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING. IS THAT CORRECT, COUNSELOR? I THINK THAT'S CORRECT. I I, UM, I I'M NOT AWARE OF ANYTHING THAT THERE IS A NEED TO, UH, RESERVE MONIES OR SET UP A CONTINGENT FUND WITH THIS NOT PRIZE THERE'S ANY MONEY OR CONSIDER DUE ETS NOTHING. THERE'S EXCHANGE OF MONIES EVERY MONTH, SO I'M NOT AWARE OF, I'M JUST STATING WHAT THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY IN OUTSIDE AUDITOR SENT A LETTER TOO SAYING NOT TO RECORD ANY AUDIT. RIGHT? I SENT A COPY OF THE CONTRACT. I JUST DON'T WANT TO IGNORE SOMETHING THAT'S COMING AT US. I MEAN, WE PROBABLY WON'T BE HERE, BUT SOMEBODY WILL, MY FEAR IS THAT'S GONNA BE ADDRESSED AND IT'S GONNA BE WHAT IS WRITING THAT'S GONNA STAND UP. SO IF YOU'RE COMFORTABLE WITH THAT, I'M, OTHER QUESTIONS. ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THE COURT OR THE AUDIENCE ABOUT OUR CURRENT BUDGET PROPOSAL? IF NOT, WE WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO EXIT THE, UH, PUBLIC HEARING. THIS ENDS THE PUBLIC PARTICIPATION IN THE, UH, MEETING. UH, THE REST OF IT WILL BE CONDUCTED BY THE COMMISSIONERS. AND SO, AND THAT BEING SAID, I DO NEED A MOTION ON ITEM NUMBER FOUR, UH, TO EXIT THE PUBLIC HEARING. UH, COMMISSIONER, UH, PHILLIPS MAKES THAT MOTION TO HAVE A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. THOSE OPPOSED? UH, THE NEXT ITEM IS A REQUIREMENT THAT, UH, IS, UH, WAS PASSED IN TRUTH IN TAXATION AND IT IS TO DISCUSS AND SETTING AND CONSIDER SETTING SALARIES, EXPENSES, AND OTHER ALLOWANCES OF ALL ELECTED COUNTY AND PRECINCT OFFICERS. UH, THOSE SALARIES HAVE BEEN, UH, PUBLISHED IN THE, UH, LOCAL NEWSPAPER, UH, AS REQUIRED BY AS A LEGAL NOTICE. AND SO THEY HAVE BEEN, UH, PUBLISHED AND, UH, I BELIEVE YOU'RE AWARE OF THOSE. DO I HAVE A MOTION, UH, TO CONSIDER SETTING THOSE SALARIES? I HAVE A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS. DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER SHANE. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. THOSE BOTH. OKAY, THANK YOU. ITEM NUMBER SIX IS TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ADOPTING A BUDGET FOR, OR THE BUDGET FOR FISCAL YEAR 2015 AND 2016 AND TAKE A RECORD VOTE, INCLUDING THE CHANGES, INCLUDING THE CHANGES THAT WERE PRESENTED THIS MORNING BY THE, UH, THE AUDITOR. THANK YOU OF THAT. WE DO HAVE A FORM, UH, THERE IS A DOCUMENT THAT WE BELIEVE TO, UH, UH, AND I NEED TO SIGN, BUT THERE IS A FORMAL MOTION, UH, [00:40:01] THAT YOU HAVE. I HAVE ARE YOU GOING THE RECORDS? YEAH. THAT WAS INCLUDED. UH, YEAH, THAT SHOULD BE INCLUDED IN THE, I THINK WE HAVE TWO DIFFERENT ONES. WE WERE LOOKING AT, I MUST HAVE A COPY OF THE, THIS WAS ONE I BELIEVE WE RECEIVED, UH, FROM THE TAG. AND I'LL READ THIS AND I'LL PUT THIS IN THE FORM MOTION. UH, THIS IS AN ORDER ADOPTING FISCAL YEAR OF 20 15 20 16. BUDGET RATIFYING THE REQUIRED PROPERTY TAX INCREASE ON THIS THE SECOND DAY OF, UH, DECEMBER. I'M SORRY, DECEMBER, SEPTEMBER, UH, 2015 AFTER PROPERLY NOTICE, UH, IN PUBLIC HEARING ON MOTION, UH, BY, UH, JUDGE BRUCE WOOD. AND I NEED A SECOND TO APPROVE THE, UH, BUDGET HEARING. UH, BUDGET AS WELL AS TAX INCREASE. SO I'M MAKING THAT MOTION AND I NEED A SECOND TO, TO THE MOTION. AND THE TAX INCREASE IS RELATING TO THE INCREASE IN PROPERTY VALUES. PROPERTY VALUES. IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT THE TAX RATE, IT'S JUST THE NEW PROPERTY. I THINK THAT'S WHAT CONFUSED A LOT. YEAH, IT DOES. IT IS CONFUSING. WHAT IS THE TAX RATE ITSELF STAYS THE SAME, BUT WE HAD OVER $200 MILLION WORTH OF NEW PROPERTY GROWTH THIS PAST YEAR AND PLUS WE, UH, PROPERTY VALUES DID GO UP IN SOME AREAS AS WELL, BUT THE TAX RATE ITSELF REMAINS THE SAME JUST LIKE IT WAS THIS PAST YEAR. SO THAT'S, THAT'S ALSO DONE BY AN APPRAISAL DISTRICT. WE HAVE NO CONTROL OF APPRAISAL DISTRICT THERE, INDEPENDENT AGENCY, ALL OTHER SECTION. BY ALL, NOT ALL. THAT'S WHAT GOES TODAY. SECOND. ALRIGHT, WE HAVE A MOTION, UH, BY THE, UH, BRUCE WOOD. WE HAVE A SECOND BY, UH, COMMISSIONER ALLEN AND, UH, COMMISSIONER COURT. UH, KAMAN COUNTY DOES HEREBY ADOPT ATTACHED FISCAL OF YEAR BUDGET 20 15 16 BUDGET BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE. THIS NEEDS TO BE A ROLL CALL VOTE. UH, IYE BRUCE WOOD. YES. AND THEN I'LL GO AROUND FOR COMMISSIONER ROSA. I SAY NO BECAUSE I'M NOT COMFORTABLE WITH, UH, WITH LIABILITY THAT I THINK WE STILL HAVE. OKAY. MR. ROSA VOTES? UH, NO. UH, COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS. AYE. AYE, UH, COMMISSIONER SHANE? AYE. AYE. AND MR. ALLEN? AYE. OKAY. UH, AND THEN ON A MOTION, UH, BY THE COUNTY JUDGE BRUCE WOOD, THIS SETS THE TAX RATE FOR THIS YEAR. UH, AND I NEED A SECOND TO THAT MOTION. UH, YOU SECOND THE MOTION. IS THAT ITEM MADE? YEAH. WELL ACTUALLY IT'S ALL IN ONE FORM, BUT IT IS ITEM MADE, BUT WE USE ALL ONE DOCUMENT THAT WE HAVE. OKAY. AND WHAT, LEMME GO AHEAD AND READ IT OUT ON THE MOTION AND SECOND, THE COMMISSION THAT'S HEREBY RATIFY THE PROPERTY TAX RATE OF 0.5762 PER $100 VALUE RAISING VALUE, MORE REVENUE TAXES THAN IN THE PREVIOUS YEARS AS REQUIRED AS, UH, BY THE BUDGET, BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE. THAT'S, THAT'S ALL ONE MOTION TO ONE. AND UH, WE HAVE ANOTHER ONE HERE. IT'S A LITTLE CONFUSING. THEY CHANGED IT UP THIS YEAR. YEAH, IT'S THE WAY THAT WE'RE TRYING TO, UH, TO DO IT. SO COUNTY JUDGE, I DO DO THE SECOND I MAKE MOTION, BUT I DO NEED A SECOND MR. PHILLIPS SECOND MOTION AND WE DO NEED TO DO A ROLL CALL. VOTE. UH, I VOTE YES. COMMISSIONER, I'M ADOPTING THE TAX RATE. YES. OKAY. RATIFYING THE TAX AND COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS? YES SIR. UH, AND COMMISSIONER SHANE? YES. AND COMMISSIONER HOWELL? YES. OKAY. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. WELL, WE'VE ALREADY VOTED COURSE THEN THERE IS ONE OF THE DOCUMENTS I BELIEVE WE NEED TO DO THIS WOULD BE, UH, ON ITEM, UH, I BELIEVE AND, [00:45:01] UH, THIS IS A MOTION AND I'LL READ THIS TO YOU AND WE'LL, UH, IT SAYS THIS IS, UH, IT SAYS BID REMEMBERED THAT ON THE SECOND DAY OF DECE OF SEPTEMBER, 2015 AT A MEETING OF THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT OF KAMAN COUNTY, TEXAS, THE FOLLOWING MEMBERS BEING PRESENT, COUNTY JUDGE BRUCE WOOD, COMMISSIONER JIMMY JOE PHILLIPS, UH, KENNETH SHANE AND JACKIE ALLEN. AMONG THE OTHER THINGS, THE FOLLOWING PROCEEDINGS WERE, UH, HAD TO WIT THERE CAME ON TO BE CONSIDERED THE MOTION AS FALLS. I MOVE THAT THE PROPERTY TAX RATE BE INCREASED BY THE ADOPTION OF THE TAX RATE OF 5.62. AGAIN, THAT'S A PLAY ON WORDS. IT'S THE TAX RATE REMAINS THE SAME, BUT BECAUSE IT RAISES MORE MONEY BECAUSE OF THE INCREASED PROPERTY RATES IN NEW PROPERTIES, UH, IT DOES REQUIRE THIS LANGUAGE AND THAT EFFECTIVELY IS A 2.05% INCREASE IN THE TAX RATE. THE MAINTENANCE AND OPERATION TAX RATE WOULD BE 0.4398. THE ROAD AND BRIDGE, UH, TAX RATE WOULD BE ZERO, UH, I MEAN 0.0867. THE INTEREST IN SINKING FUND TAX RATE WOULD BE 0.0497, UH, TO MAKING THE TOTAL TAX RATE 0.5762, UH, WHICH IS, UH, THE SAME AS LAST YEAR. UH, SO, UH, THE MOTION WAS MADE. I'LL MAKE THE MOTION TO APPROVE THE TAX RATE AND I NEED A SECOND, SECOND, SECOND. UH, JACKIE ALLEN OR JACKIE, UH, COMMISSIONER ALLEN'S SECONDED, UH, WHERE UPON VOTING FOR SAID MOTION, UH, IF YOU ARE APPROVING THIS MOTION, WHICH WE'VE ALREADY ACTUALLY APPROVED ONCE, THEN WE'RE DOING IT TWICE. UH, IF YOU JUST RAISE YOUR HAND AND SAY, AYE, A AYE. OKAY. THOSE VOTED AGAINST THE ONE VOTING AGAINST, UH, THE ABOVE FORGOING ORDER WAS PASSED IN OATH. COURT WITH THE ABOVE MAIN MEMBERS PRESENT ON THE SECOND DAY OF SEPTEMBER 15. THEN I HAVE TO PLACE HERE FOR THE COUNTY COURT TO, UH, TEST AS WELL. SO, UH, THAT, UH, CONDUCTS THE LAST ITEM ON THE AGENDA. UH, AND SO I NOW NEED A MOTION TO ADJOURN THIS SPECIAL MEETING. NIK MADE A MOTION. MR. PHILLIPS, I'M SORRY, PHILLIPS SECOND, THE MOTION. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. CITIZENS EMPLOYEE. FOR WHAT SITE DO YOU, IF YOU GO TO THE COUNTY COM, UM, TOMORROW AFTERNOON IT SHOULD BE ON, IS IT. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.