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SAY PRAYER FOR THE VICTIMS OF THE NINE 11 TRAGEDY THAT WE JUST REVISIT LAST WEEK, UH, FOR THE FAMILIES, UH, FOR THE HEALING OF THEIR FAMILIES.

AND AS ALWAYS, WE PRAY FOR THE SAFETY OF OUR MILITARY PERSONNEL, PROTECTION OF OUR POLICE AND FIRST RESPONDERS.

AND EVERYBODY IN THIS COURT HAS THE SAME RETURN BACK THEIR JESUS PRAY PLAINTIFF ALLEGIANCE TO THE BACK, THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE.

HONOR, HONOR, FLAG ALLEGIANCE TO THE PASSAGE BEFORE WE GET THIS MORNING.

AND IS CONSTABLE MORRIS HERE TODAY? UH, JOHN SULLIVAN, JUNIOR.

JOHN, AS MANY OF YOU, OR SOME OF YOU WILL REMEMBER A FEW YEARS AGO, IT'S NOW WHEN, PROBABLY 2013, JOHN, UH, WHO WAS WORKING WITH CONSTABLE MORRIS, UH, WAS INVOLVED IN A, A CRACK ACCIDENT.

AND, UH, FORTUNATELY THEY CAME THROUGH THAT.

OKAY.

BUT WE, UH, HE RECEIVED A NOTICE LAST WEEK, I BELIEVE, A NICE, UH, EVENT DOWN IN AUSTIN WITH THE GOVERNOR.

YES.

AND, UH, I'M YOU THE DOOR A LOT.

AND SO I WANTED TO PRESENT THIS THIS MORNING.

UH, THIS IS A DESCRIPTION OF A JOB WELL DONE, AND IT'S, UH, PRESENTED TO JOHN RUBIN SULLIVAN JR.

KAMAN COUNTY DEPUTY CONSTABLE PRECINCT FOUR.

AND IT'S JUST THAT WE WANT TO EXPRESS OUR GRATITUDE TO YOUR BRAVERY AND COURAGE IN KEEPING KAUFMAN COUNTY SAFE.

WE APPRECIATE YOUR SELF SLEPT SELFLESS, I'M SORRY, ACTS AND SACRIFICE ON A DAILY BASIS IN YOUR JOB AS DEPUTY CONSTABLE SIGNED THIS 14TH DAY OR SEPTEMBER, 2015.

SO JOHN IS A HERO FOR US, AS ARE ALL OF OUR FIRST RESPONDERS AND OUR, UH, UH, POLICE OFFICERS AND DEPUTIES AROUND THE COUNTY.

BRIAN, ANYTHING.

HE'S A GREAT EMPLOYEE EMPLOYEE.

GREAT.

WELL, THANK WE APPRECIATE THAT.

WE'RE GLAD YOU'RE UP.

NOW WE WILL BEGIN WITH THE NEXT, UH, PART OF OUR AGENDA, AND THAT IS REMARKS VISITORS.

UH, KEVIN, DO YOU HAVE SOME FOLKS SIGNED UP TO VISIT WITH US THIS MORNING? OKAY.

WE HAVE ONE, UH, PERSON THAT IS HERE TO, UH, TALK WITH US AND NAIL PULLER ON COUNTY ROAD 3 46.

MS. FULLER, YOU COME FORWARD AND, UH, THERE'S SPEAKER INTO THE MICROPHONE.

WE TRYING TO TALK UP LOUD SO EVERYBODY CAN HEAR US, AND SO DON'T SCREAM AT US, BUT JUST, UH, I TALK LOUD.

WE CARRY A SMALL STATE.

OKAY, THAT ONE.

MOVE THE MICROPHONE UP THERE A LITTLE CLOSER TO YOU.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

UM, THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS YOU.

I JUST WANT FOR THE RECORD TO ADDRESS OUR CONCERN OF SAFETY ON OUR COUNTY ROAD 3 46, UM, VISIBILITY AND ALL MODES OF TRANSPORTATION IS ABOUT UTMOST CONCERN.

THEY, THEY, UM, GROUND AIRPLANES WHEN THERE'S HEAVY FOG, HARBORS ARE CLOSED FOR SHIPS.

WHEN THE VISIBILITY IS LOW, THERE'S TIMES THAT FREEWAYS ARE CLOSED WHEN IT'S DEEMED THAT THE VISIBILITY IS SO LOW THAT THERE'S NOT SAFE TRAVEL.

OUR ROAD AT THIS TIME IS FACING THOSE VERY SAME CONCERNS.

THE DUST AT TIMES IS SO HEAVY THAT YOU ABSOLUTELY CANNOT SEE IN FRONT OF YOU.

IT WOULD TAKE AN ANIMAL OR SOMETHING IN THE ROAD CAUSING SOMEONE TO BREAK QUICKLY.

UM, THAT COULD CAUSE A SEMI TO COME RIGHT INTO THE BACK END OF THE PERSON THAT HAD TO BREAK QUICKLY.

THERE'S REALLY NOT A

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LOT OF ROOM FOR THE ROCK TRUCKS TO PASS BACK AND FORTH.

AND WHEN YOU ADD THE ELEMENT OF HEAVY, UM, DUST FROM THE TRAFFIC AND THE WIND THAT JUST NATURALLY BLOWS THROUGH, IT IS JUST AN A TERRIBLY DANGEROUS SITUATION.

AND I DON'T THINK THAT WE WANT TO GO BACK AND WHISPER THE TWO WORDS I SHOULD HAVE OR IF ONLY, UM, THERE IS A VERY ACCEPTABLE SOLUTION TO THIS.

AND THAT WOULD BE THE, UM, SPREADING OF WATER ON THE ROAD IN ORDER TO MAINTAIN THE DUST LEVEL.

AND I KNOW THAT THAT'S BEEN DISCUSSED, BUT HERE WE ARE.

IT'S SEPTEMBER SUMMER IS ALMOST OVER.

WE HAVE, UM, TRAVELED THROUGH DUST THE WHOLE SUMMER LONG AND NOTHING HAS BEEN DONE TO ADDRESS THE PROBLEM.

AND THEN THERE'S STILL THE CONCERN OF THE VISIBILITY AT THE CORNER, ONE MILE OFF OF 27 28 ON 3 46.

THERE'S A LOT OF DIRT THAT'S BEEN AND ROCK THAT'S BEEN PUSHED UP OVER THE YEARS, CREATING A HILL WHEN THERE'S A LOT OF GROWTH.

THAT WOULD BE A MATTER OF PROBABLY AN AFTERNOONS WORK IN ORDER TO CLEAR THAT OUT SO THAT YOU COULD SEE VEHICLES COMING AROUND THE CORNER.

SO THAT IS OUR GREAT CONCERN.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR BEING HERE.

OKAY.

THE, UH, NEXT ITEM IS TO CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER.

AND I BELIEVE WE DO HAVE A, UH, FORUM PRESENT TODAY.

UH, WE WILL NOW, UH, DISCUSS AND, UH, CONSIDER, UH, A MOTION TO ENTER INTO TWO PUBLIC HEARINGS, WHICH I'LL ANNOUNCE JUST IN A MOMENT.

SO IF I HAVE A MOTION TO ENTER INTO PUBLIC HEARINGS, UH, COMMISSIONER SHANE MAKES THAT MOTION.

UH, COMMISSIONER NOT EXPECT MOTION.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

A OPPOSED, OPPOSED, UH, THE FIRST PUBLIC HEARING WILL BE TO CONDUCT A HEARING ON THE ADOPTION OF THE KAMAN COUNTY DISTRICT COURT RECORDS AND ARCHIVE SLAMMED FOR FISCAL YEAR 20 15, 20 16.

AND I BELIEVE YOU, UH, THE COMMISSIONERS HAVE A, UH, UH, COPY OF THAT.

AND, UH, SO DOES SOMEONE HERE FROM DISTRICT, UH, ATTORNEY'S, I'M SORRY, DISTRICT CLERK'S OFFICE.

DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS PLAN? I KNOW THEY HAD A, A, A COURTHOUSE FULL OF FOLKS THIS MORNING ON THE, UH, SOME JURIES THAT WERE BEING PICKED IN A, UH, HEARING.

UH, SO THERE, I MAY NOT BE HERE THIS MORNING.

UH, THIS IS A PLAN.

UH, REBECCA, DO YOU WANT TO SPEAK TO THIS AT ALL? UM, YOUR HONOR, ACTUALLY, I, I DON'T HAVE INFORMATION AS TO THE PLAN, BUT I CAN RUN ACROSS AND GET THE, SOMEONE FROM THE DISTRICT CLERK'S OFFICE IF YOU WANT TO SWITCH PUBLIC HEARINGS AND LET COUNTY COURT.

OKAY.

WE CAN DO, DO THAT.

AND MAYBE WE GET SOMEONE OVER HERE AND THAT WOULD BE GOOD.

I'M SURE THEY'RE HOPEFULLY BE ON THEIR WAY.

SO I THINK THAT'S A GOOD IDEA.

WE'LL GO AHEAD AND, UH, MOVE DOWN TO THE SECOND PUBLIC HEARING.

UH, AND, UH, THAT IS TO CONSIDER A, UH, PUBLIC HEARING, UH, CONCERNING THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE ONE 18, UH, 0.02 5G TO RECEIVE INPUT REGARDING THE COUNTY CLERK'S RECORDS ARCHIVE PLAN.

SO, UH, MS. HUGHES, I THINK YOU PROVIDED US WITH SOME INFORMATION ON THAT.

THE LEGISLATURE HAS PROVIDED A WAY FOR COUNTY TO ARCHIVE AND RESTORE HISTORICAL RECORDS, A TO ALL THE RECORDS THAT ARE SET COURT FOR FILING AND REPORTING.

AND WE USED THIS, THIS MONEY FOR SEVERAL YEARS AND WE'VE MADE GREAT STRIDES IN ARCHIVING.

THE RECORDS CODE ALSO STATES THAT WE HAVE TO HAVE A WRITTEN PLAN FOR FUNDING PRESERVATION FOR NARCOTICS FUND AND TO DESIGNATE THE RECORDS THAT WE'D LIKE TO USE IT AND DESIGNATED ALL THE RECORDS THAT WE THERE.

BASICALLY HERE TO DATE, WE SPENT 205,000.

WE HAVE, UM, PROPOSED TO THIS YEAR WE, THE EXPENDITURES HAVE ADMINISTERED IN BUDGET AND BASICALLY IT'S A WAY THAT WE CAN, THE CLERK'S OFFICE DOESN'T HAVE TO ASK THE COMMISSIONERS FOR GENERAL FUND MONEY TO PRESERVE AND RESTORE THE RECORDS THAT ARE HELD FOR STATE.

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ANYBODY HAVE ANY, I'M NOT GONNA VOTE ON THIS RIGHT NOW.

THIS IS JUST A PUBLIC HEARING.

ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ABOUT THE COUNTY CLERKS? I KNOW YOU'RE DIGITIZING AS MANY OF AS YOU CAN, AS BEST AS YOU CAN.

ALRIGHT.

BACK ON THE DISTRICT CLERK'S PLANT.

UH, I DO HAVE SOME INFORMATION THAT I'LL PROVIDE.

UH, AND ARE THEY ON THEIR WAY? I BELIEVE SO.

OKAY.

THEY'RE TRYING TO ORGANIZE IT AND GET SOMEWHERE OVER HERE.

OKAY.

THEY, UH, THE PLAN IS, AND IT'S, IT'S, UH, A VERY, UH, IT'S A STANDARD PLAN THAT THE COUNTY HAS HAD FOR THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS.

IT'S THE RECORDS ARCHIVE PLAN FOR RESERVATION AND RESTORATION OF DISTRICT COURT RECORDS ARCHIVE FOR THE 20 15 20 16 YEAR.

AND I'LL JUST READ YOU THE SUMMARY OF THIS AND IT SAYS THAT STATE LAW REQUIRES DISTRICT CLERKS TO MAINTAIN LARGE AMOUNTS OF COURT RECORDS PERMANENTLY IN ORDER TO PRESERVE AND MAINTAIN THESE DOCUMENTS.

OFFICES ARE STORING DOCUMENTS ELECTRONICALLY, UH, ON A DIGITAL FORMAT.

STATE LAW AND STATE LIBRARY RULES DO TAKE THE DEFEND AND DIGITAL IMAGES BE MAINTAINED PERMANENTLY WITH A STORAGE PLAN TO SECURE THE FUTURE TRANSITIONS, UH, DIGITIZE RECORDS TO USE NEW MEDIA, USED MEDIA THAT ALLOWS ACCESS TO THESE RECORDS.

AND THE PURPOSE OF OUR PLAN PRESERVATION DIGITAL CAPITAL, UH, DI DIGITAL, I'M SORRY, HE TAUGHT THIS ONE.

DIGITAL CAPTURE, STORAGE, RETENTION AND MANAGEMENT OF ARCHIVE RECORDS BELONGING TO THE DISTRICT CLERK'S OFFICE.

IT IS THE INTENT OF THE DISTRICT CLERK'S OFFICE TO FOLLOW GUIDELINES SET BY THE TEXAS STATE LIBRARY AND ARCHIVES COMMISSIONER.

SO AGAIN, THAT'S THE, UH, PLAN THAT HAS BEEN PRESENTED BY THE, UH, DISTRICT CLERK AS WELL.

DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY COMMENTS ON EITHER THE DISTRICT CLERK PLAN OR THE, UH, COUNTY CLERK PLAN? NOT WE WILL, UH, ASK FOR A, A MOTION TO ADJOURN THE, UH, UH, OR TO GO OUT OF THE, UH, PUBLIC HEARING PORTION OF OUR AGENDA.

OKAY.

WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS.

SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

UH, DO I HAVE A MOTION TO CONS, UH, CONSIDER ADOPTION OF THE DISTRICT COURT RECORDS? HAVE A MOTION.

MR. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

A.

THOSE OPPOSED.

ITEM NUMBER SIX IS TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ADOPTION OF THE COUNTY CLERK'S.

RECORDS ARE TIME WHEN? OKAY.

ADOPT, APPROVE, APPROVE.

SORRY.

CONSIDER APPROVAL OF THE COUNTY CLERK'S RECORDS ARCHIVE PLAINTIFF.

ALRIGHT, COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS, MAKE THAT MOTION.

COMMISSIONER, THERE'S ALL SECOND MOTION.

ALL IN FAVOR TO SAY AYE.

THOSE OPPOSED.

RON, YOU GOT HERE JUST IN TIME.

WE JUST APPROVED YOUR, UH, PLAN.

I KNOW YOU.

OKAY.

BUSY MORNING NOW.

IF YOU'D LIKE TO SPEAK ABOUT IT, YOU'RE WELCOME TO DO THAT, SIR.

THANK YOU.

IT'S DONE.

DEAL.

ALL RIGHT.

UH, NEXT, I DON'T HAVE ANY ROUTINE CORRESPONDENCE TO, TO DISTRIBUTE, UH, THE CON CONSENT AGENDA.

UH, WELL WE CAN, UH, RANDY, YOU WANT TO, ARE YOU STILL HERE? DO YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE BURN? GIVE US AN UPDATE ON THE BURN BAND.

UH, YOU GAVE THE COMMISSIONERS A, UH, HANDOUT CONCERNING THE BURN BAND, BUT IT MIGHT NOT BE BAD TO INFORM THE PUBLIC ABOUT WHERE WE ARE.

AND UH, THEY WE'RE STILL UNDER A BURN BAND.

YES.

UH, BASICALLY JUST TRYING TO PROVIDE THAT THE COURT GENERAL INFORMATION ON A WEEKLY BASIS AS TO WHERE WE STAND WITH THE, UH, DROUGHT CONDITIONS IN THE COUNTY.

A BURN BAND.

UH, WE ARE STILL UNDER DROUGHT CONDITIONS.

OUR TWO WEEK PREDICTIONS AS UH, HAVE BEEN INDICATED BY THE TEXAS FOREST SERVICE ARE ON THE RIGHT.

SO THE SPORADIC RAINS THAT WE ARE HAVING, ALTHOUGH, YOU KNOW, MUCH APPRECIATED, WELL, YOU KNOW, TAKEN, THEY'RE JUST A VERY

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TEMPORARY PICKS AND, UH, I'VE BEEN IN CONTACTING THE MEDIA AS WELL TO TRY TO REMIND THE PUBLIC THAT JUST BECAUSE OF RAINS DOES NOT PROVIDE US THE OPPORTUNITY TO GO AHEAD AND START, YOU KNOW, THERE STILL IS A CORRIDOR AND, UH, YOU KNOW, GIVEN A FEW DAYS, THE WINDS AND THE HEAT WE'RE RIGHT BACK WHERE WE WERE AND THE IT IT FIREFIGHTERS TO GET OUT.

WE ARE STILL HAVING ACTIVE FIRES.

UH, THEY HAVEN'T BEEN OF A VIOLENT NATURE YET.

WE'VE NOT HAD, UH, BUT JUST ONE INVOLVED NUMEROUS DEPARTMENTS TO COME OUT AND CONTROL.

SO OVERALL THEY'RE NATURE.

HOPEFULLY WE CAN AVOID THAT, ENCOURAGE EVERYONE AND KEEP PUBLIC AWARE THAT WE STILL NEED TO HOLD OFF.

WE HAVE SEVERAL MEDIA MEMBERS HERE TODAY AND THEY'LL HELP SPREAD THAT WORD I'M SURE AS WELL.

SO THE COUNTY SURROUNDING COUNTY, UH, ARE ALL STILL UNDER BURN BAND EXCEPT FOR HENDERSON COUNTY.

THEY DROPPED THEIRS, UH, A WEEK, WEEK AND A HALF AGO.

AND, UH, I'VE IN COMMUNICATION WITH THEM, MY UNDER THAT THEY ARE CONSIDERING REIMPLEMENT WELL BECAUSE IT JUST DIDN'T WORK OUT.

ANYBODY HAVE ANY, ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT ANYTHING DEALING WAS BURNED IN FROM THE FIRE MARSH? THANK YOU FOR THAT EXPLANATION.

ALRIGHT, NOW TO THE CONSENT AGENDA, WE, UH, MAY IS THE ACCEPTANCE OF MEETING MINUTES JULY THE 16TH, 20 15, 2 SETS FOR JUNE THE 22ND, 2015, AND JUNE 24TH, JULY THE 27TH, AUGUST 10TH, AUGUST 24TH, 2015.

ITEM B IS TO DISCUSS, CONSIDER APPROVING WATER SUPPLY CORPORATION TO INSTALL 7,800 FEET OF 12 INCH AND 18 INCH WATER LINE ALONG FM 7 41 FROM THEIR OFFICES ON WINDY LANE IN TON COUNTY PRECINCT TWO.

UH, ADAM C IS TO DISCUSS, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER APPROVING BOND OF ALEX ANOA AS DEPUTY CONSTABLE PRECINCT 3D IS TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER PRO FLEMING THE MONTH OF SEPTEMBER AS NATIONAL PREPAREDNESS MONTH IN KAMAN COUNTY.

WE HAVE AN ITEM ON THE AGENDA THAT WE'LL BE TALKING ABOUT THAT A LITTLE BIT.

UH, ITEM E IS TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER APPROVING BELVIN AND WEEKS TO INSTALL AND UPGRADE WATER LINES ON COUNTY ROAD 41 0 4 AND 41 0 6 CALLED COUNTY PRECINCT FOUR.

AND THEN IN THE ITEM NUMBER F THIS IS THE ONE I JUST MENTIONED TO DISCUSS IN CONSIDER ACCEPTING THAT A MONETARY MONETARY DONATION OF $200 FOR ITEMS NEEDED FOR THE, UH, EMERGENCY PREPAREDNESS EVENT ON SEPTEMBER THE 26TH FROM THE WALMART DISTRIBUTION CENTER AND OTHER POSSIBLE BUSINESSES.

WE HAVE SOME OTHER BUSINESSES.

SEE YOU WANT TO TELL US IN 30 SECONDS OR LESS? UH, I EMPHASIS ON THURSDAY.

I'M GONNA LET MELISSA TELL YOU IN 30 SECONDS OR LESS BECAUSE SHE IS IN CHARGE OF THIS EVENT AND KNOWS MORE ABOUT IT THAN I DO.

WE HAD RATHER HEAR FROM MELISSA THAN YOU.

ANYWAYS, .

MELISSA, JUST TELL US WHAT'S GOING ON.

I JUST NEED, UM, YOU'RE WELCOME TO COME HERE.

OKAY.

SORRY, THIS IS MY FIRST, I'M NOT TRYING TO EMBARRASS YOU VERY MUCH, BUT, UM, I JUST WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THE PERMISSION TO ACCEPT FUNDS BECAUSE FOR OUR EVENT ON THIS 26, JUST NEED VARIOUS ITEMS AND I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A PRIZE FOR IT AS WELL.

AND SO WALMART DISTRIBUTION OFFERED TO GIVE US A MONETARY DONATION AND THERE WAS ANOTHER COMPANY OR TWO WHO MENTIONED IT, BUT I TOLD 'EM BEFORE I CAME THAT I WOULD HAVE TO, OR BEFORE I COULD ACCEPT, I WOULD HAVE TO COME BEFORE Y'ALL, BUT THE FUNDS WOULD HELP MAKE OUR EVENT EVEN MORE SUCCESSFUL.

I'D LIKE TO HAVE, UM, JUST SOME MORE STUFF TO HELP COMPLETE.

CAN YOU TELL US QUICKLY ABOUT THE EVENT, THE LOCATION AND ALL THAT? SO .

OH, OKAY.

IT'LL BE, UH, IN TWO SATURDAYS, SEPTEMBER 26TH FROM 10 TO TWO.

AND IT IS, WHAT WE'RE JUST TRYING TO DO IS HELP EDUCATE KAMAN COUNTY ON EMERGENCY PREPAREDNESS AND THE IMPORT IMPORTANCE OF IT.

AND WE'VE INVITED, UM, OUR FIRST RESPONDERS FROM KAMAN COUNTY SO THAT THE PEOPLE OF KAUFFMAN COUNTY CAN COME AND MEET THEM, ASK THEM QUESTIONS THAT, UM, WOULD HELP THEM IN A TIME OF AN EMERGENCY OR

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DISASTER.

AND SO WE JUST WOULD LIKE TO MAKE PEOPLE MORE AWARE IN KAUFFMAN COUNTY TO UNDERSTAND THE IMPORTANCE OF BEING PREPARED SO WE CAN EXPECT LOTS OF FIRE TRUCKS AND AMBULANCES AND, UH, ALL WHAT KINDS? YES SIR.

OKAY.

WE HAVE, UM, AND, AND QUITE HONESTLY, IT'S MY FIRST EVENT TO EVER PUT ON LIKE THIS AND I'M STILL SLOW IN REACHING EVERYONE AND, BUT JUST EVERYBODY HAS BEEN WONDERFUL.

GOOD.

WE APPRECIATE YOUR WORK ON IT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

GENTLEMEN, WHAT'S YOUR PLEASURE ON THE CONSENT AGENDA? MOTION? WE HAVE A MOTION FROM UH, COMMISSIONER ALLEN FROM COMMISSIONER SHANE.

ALL IN FAVOR.

ITEM NUMBER NINE IS HEAR FROM CALLAWAY.

BRENDA, WELCOME MORNING.

THANK YOU TDO TO UH, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER THE OFF SYSTEM BRIDGE REPLACEMENT PROJECTS AND DETERMINE, UH, IF THE COUNTY WANTS TO EXECUTE THE AGREEMENT FOR THE BRIDGES AND PERMITING TO A MONETARY MATCH AND EQUIPMENT MATCH PROJECTS AS IN KIND MATCH BY REPLACING, REPAIRING OTHER COUNTY STRUCTURES WITH COUNTY FORCES OR A COMBINATION OF BOTH.

AND YOU MIGHT, BRENDA, IF YOU DON'T MIND, JUST KIND OF GIVE A QUICK OVERVIEW FOR OUR AUDIENCE MEMBERS THAT ARE HERE TODAY MAY NOT BE GREAT PROGRAM THAT T HAS OUR COUNTY.

UH, YES SIR.

JUDGE, BACK IN 1978, THE FEDERAL HIGHWAY ADMINISTRATION PASSED THE HIGHWAY BRIDGE PROGRAM AND BASICALLY WHAT THAT MEANS IS EVERY YEAR WE DEDICATE $230 MILLION TO THE REHAB AND REPLACEMENT OF BRIDGES BOTH ON THE STATE SYSTEM AND OFF THE STATE SYSTEM.

UM, THAT MONEY REQUIRES A 20% MAX FROM LOCAL FUNDING.

SO IT CAN BE 20%, UH, FROM THE STATE IF IT IS ON SYSTEM AND IT, IF IT IS OFF SYSTEM, IT'S 10% FROM THE STATE AND 10% NORMALLY FROM THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT.

UM, COFFMAN COUNTY BEING AN ECONOMICALLY DISADVANTAGED COUNTY, UM, YOUR MATCH IS 4.1% THAT WE ASK.

THE MATCH CAN BE MONETARY.

UH, YOU CAN GIVE US A CHECK THAT WE WILL PUT IN ESCROW AND USE AS WE'RE DESIGNING AND CONSTRUCTING THE BRIDGES.

OR YOU WOULDN'T TRY TO CASH THE CHECK.

OH, WELL OF COURSE, YES.

WE'D HAVE TO DRAW FROM THAT OUT.

THAT ESPRO BE YOUR CHECK THE TREASURE TO MAKE SURE.

THERE YOU GO.

UM, OR IT CAN BE AN IN KIND MATCH.

IT CAN BE A MATCH OF, UM, SERVICES EQUAL TO THE AMOUNT THAT WE WOULD ASK YOU FOR MONETARILY.

AND IT CAN BE DONE BY COUNTY FORCES ON EITHER OTHER BRIDGE RELATED STRUCTURES OR CROSS DRAIN STRUCTURES ON THE OFFICES AND ROADWAYS.

SO WHAT WE'VE DONE IS IN YOUR TABLE, AND I'LL PLACE SOME UP HERE IN CASE SOMEONE ELSE, I LIKE TO HAVE THEM.

WE HAVE IDENTIFIED SIX COUNTY ROAD BRIDGES THAT NEED REPLACEMENT AND TO BE REPLACED IN THIS PROGRAM.

YOUR SCORE, THE SR OVER THERE AT ABOUT THE FIFTH COLUMN OVER HAS TO BE 50 OR LESS.

SO THE TOP SIX THERE, WE'VE IDENTIFIED NEED REPLACEMENT.

AND WHAT I'M COMING FORWARD TODAY IS TO FIND OUT IF THE COUNTY WOULD LIKE TO ENTER INTO AN AGREEMENT.

AND IN ORDER TO DO THE AGREEMENTS, I NEED TO KNOW IF YOU WANT TO TRY TO FIND, UM, EQUIVALENT MATCH PROJECTS OR IF YOU WANT TO DO A MONETARY MATCH FOR THOSE BRIDGES.

UM, THE ONES THAT ARE HIGHLIGHTED IN YELLOW OR ONES THAT WE PULLED OFF THE BRIDGE PROGRAM WHERE WE INSPECT THEM EVERY OTHER YEAR AND THAT WE FEEL LIKE WOULD BE GOOD CANDIDATES FOR EQUIVALENT MATCH PROGRAMS OR PROJECTS.

DOESN'T HAVE TO BE THESE, BUT THEY'RE JUST ONES THAT WE HAVE SUGGESTED TO YOU TO KIND OF KIND OF MAKE A LITTLE BIT EASIER.

UM, I ALSO ADDED TWO ON THE BOTTOM, THE WOLF CREEK AT HICKORY TREE LANE.

I KNOW IT'S BEEN AFFECTED BY THE RECENT FLOODS AND WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH YOU TO TRY TO GET OTHER FHWA AND OTHER FEMA DOLLARS MAYBE TO HELP YOU WITH THAT ONE.

BUT IF THAT DOESN'T COME THROUGH, DOES IT COME TO FRUITION, THEN WE COULD USE THAT AS AN EQUIVALENT MATCH PROJECT.

UM, ANOTHER ONE, THE REPAIR OF THAT.

YES.

YES.

IT COULD BE AN EQUIVALENT MATCH MATCH UM, PROJECT.

THE OTHER ONE ON THE BOTTOM THAT I ADDED, UM, GENTLEMAN CAME INTO MY OFFICE THE OTHER DAY, UH, ABOUT A BRIDGE ON 40 31

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B.

UH, WE WENT OUT AND MEASURED IT IS LONG ENOUGH TO BE A BRIDGE, UM, CLASS AND BE INSPECTED ON OUR PROGRAM.

BUT WHAT WE'RE NOT FINDING IS WE'RE NOT FINDING THAT THAT 40 31 B IS ON YOUR LIST OF ROADWAYS THAT YOU MAINTAIN.

SO THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF CONFUSION ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT IT'S A PRIVATE ROAD OR A COUNTY ROAD OR, OR WHAT.

BUT THAT WAS ONE TOO THAT I WANTED TO PUT IN THERE FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.

OKAY.

BUT THE ONES THAT WE ARE ELIGIBLE FOR FUNDING ON IMMEDIATELY ARE YEAH, THE TOP SIX.

THE TOP SIX, YES.

WE JUST NEED TO, WE NEED TO FIND OUT HOW YOU WANT TO DO YOUR MATCH FOR THOSE POPS WITH THE EXTRA CASH AND SO RIGHT.

GENTLEMEN, WHAT'S YOUR 31 BS ON MY LIST? OKAY.

OKAY.

UH, WE CAN SEND SOMEBODY OUT TO INSPECT THAT ONE AS WELL, UH, AND SEE WHAT CONDITION IT IS AND SEE HOW IT RANK.

BUT IT MIGHT BE ONE, UM, IN THE INTEREST OF TIME, IF YOU LOOK AT IT, IT NEEDS TO BE REPAIRED.

THAT COULD BE AN EQUIVALENT MATCH PROJECT.

SO OKAY.

I'LL, UH, MAYBE YOU CAN GIVE COMMISSIONER ALLEN AND WE'LL SEND RECENT LIST OF BOROUGH COUNTY.

YEAH, THAT WOULD BE BRAD COUNTY GROVES.

GENTLEMEN, WHAT'S YOUR PLACE? I, I GOT ONE FURTHER.

UH, THAT COUNTY ROAD 2 62 THAT YOU'VE GOT LISTED CREEK.

MM-HMM.

UM, THAT 2 62 HAS CREEK THAT ACTUALLY COUNTY ROAD 3 0 1 OR 2 7 9 ACTUALLY CREEK ACROSS THOSE AND I'M NOT SURE WHICH BRIDGE, UM, I THINK IT'S THE ONE ON COUNTY ROAD 3 0 1 THAT, THAT, UH, HAS BEEN INSPECT.

OKAY.

BUT THAT, THAT IS, UH, 2 62, WELL THERE IN AREA.

OKAY.

SO THAT, THAT NUMBER IS, BOTH OF THOSE HAVE BACHELOR.

OKAY.

NOT SURE WHICH ONE I'LL GET WITH THEM AND SEE IF I CAN FIGURE OUT WHERE THE DISCRE IS ON THAT.

OH, PRECINCT IS THE INTERSECTION NEAR THE INTERSECTION TWO ROAD? IT COULD BE THE FEATURE, THE BACHELOR CREEP.

THAT IS WRONG.

'CAUSE IF YOU LOOK AT THE MBI NUMBER, THEN THE MBI NUMBER HAS 2 62 IN IT AS WELL.

SO IT MIGHT BE A DISCREPANCY IN THE, THE PROGRAM ON THE FEATURE THAT'S CROSSED, BUT I'LL FIND OUT.

THE BACHELOR CREEK I THINK IS CORRECT, THE COUNTY ROAD.

OKAY.

OKAY.

I'LL SEE WHAT I CAN DO.

2 62 DOES NOT HAVE ANY.

OKAY.

IT COMPLETELY OKAY.

YES.

LEMME SEE WHAT I, THE, THE RECORDKEEPERS DOWN IN AUSTIN GET SOMETHING ON THEIR BOOKS A CERTAIN WAY.

IT'S HARD TO GET IT CHANGED, BUT I AT LEAST GIVE PARENTHESES WHAT WE THINK IT REALLY IS SO I I CAN GET IT CORRECTED SOMEWHERE OR ANOTHER.

OKAY.

THAT ON THIS LIST HERE WE HAVE, UH, WE HAD YOUR PACKET IN YOUR PACKET.

YES SIR.

UM, THE, UH, 2 79 KING STREET AGAIN THAT I THINK EAST OF COUNTY 3 0 1 OKAY.

NOT 2 62.

OKAY.

THAT I CAN FIX.

OTHER THAN THAT GREAT WOULD SAY, I DUNNO WHAT THE OTHER COMMISSIONERS, IF THEY HAVE ANY BRIDGE REPAIR THEY WANNA DO FOR IN KIND MATCH, BUT MY ONLY IN KIND MATCH WOULD BE THE REPAIR OF THAT CREEK FEATURE.

I DON'T HAVE AN ESTIMATE THAT YET.

CONTRACT.

OKAY.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I NEED TO CAUTION YOU TO AND, AND THE LITTLE HANDOUT THAT I GAVE YOU ON PAGES, UH, LET'S SEE, UM, PAGE FOUR, I BELIEVE IT'S, I'VE HIGHLIGHTED THERE IN ORANGE THAT WE HAVE TO COMPLETE OUR ADVANCED FUNDING AGREEMENT AND HAVE IT EXECUTED BY THE COUNTY AND THE STATE BEFORE YOU CAN DO THE WORK ON THE EQUIVALENT MATCH PROJECT.

SO IF THIS IS SOMETHING YOU FEEL LIKE IS, UH, NEEDS TO BE DONE IN THE NEXT MONTH OR SO, THEN IT MAY NOT BE A GOOD CANDIDATE FOR AN EQUIVALENT MATCH PROJECT.

DO YOU THINK WE SHOULD JUST GO AHEAD AND, AND DO OUR MATCHING FUNDS? UM, IT, IT KIND OF DEPENDS ON

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WHEN YOU THINK THE REPAIR NEEDS TO BE DONE AND, AND WHETHER OR NOT IT'S CRITICAL.

IF IT'S IN THE NEXT MONTH, WE PROBABLY WILL NOT BE ABLE TO GET THE AGREEMENT SIGNED IN TIME.

UM, IF IT'S TWO MONTHS, IF YOU COULD WAIT EIGHT WEEKS FORTH, THEN WE PROBABLY COULD GET THE AGREEMENT SIGNED AND, AND GET IT PROCESSED BEFORE YOU DID YOUR WORK.

OKAY.

ALRIGHT.

FIRST I HAVE NOT BEEN TO GET ANY REPAIR COMPANIES OUT THERE.

I THINK YOU'LL BE A QUESTION.

OKAY.

OKAY.

OKAY.

UH, THE OTHER QUESTION I'VE GOT, I'VE GOT TANK CARD 3 41.

DEFINITELY NEED ATTENTION.

SO WHEN COMES OUT, INSPECT SITUATION, OKAY.

ONCE, UH, REALLY NEEDS SAID, SAID IT SOMETHING WE, WE NEED TO GET IT ON THE, ON THE PROGRAM TOO.

I'LL HAVE TO, UM, CLARIFY FOR YOU, BUT I BELIEVE THAT ONCE A TANK CAR GOES IN, THEN IT GOES OFF OF OUR INSPECTION CYCLE.

UM, IT'S NOT, UM, A STRUCTURE THAT WE INSPECT AFTER THAT 'CAUSE IT'S, UM, NOT A METHOD WE WOULD USE TO, TO REPAIR OR TO INSTALL A BRIDGE OR SOMETHING, UM, IN THAT AREA.

SO THERE'S AN INCREASED, UH, ACTIVITY THAT'S GOING ON UP ABOUT 700 ACRES, UH, OF DEVELOPMENT.

UH, THIS THING'S BEEN THERE.

IT, IT'S RUSTED DOWN AND IT'S BEEN THERE FOR A LONG TIME.

SO MAYBE WE CAN SHORT PASS TOP YOU GO AS YOU COME UP FROM THE TOP.

RIGHT.

BUT WHAT I'M SAYING IS, IS ONCE THE TANK CAR GOES IN, IT'S NO LONGER ELIGIBLE FOR OUR, ITS NO LONGER CONSIDERED BRIDGE.

IT'S NO LONGER CONSIDERED A BRIDGE, IT'S NO LONGER, UH, ELIGIBLE FOR OUR PROGRAM.

HOW CAN WE FIND THAT? UM, MY BEST SUGGESTION TO YOU IS IF THERE'S A DEVELOPMENT GOING UP THERE, I WOULD LOOK AT PARTNERING WITH THE DEVELOPER TO SAY, OKAY, THE INCREASED TRAFFIC DUE TO YOUR DEVELOPMENT IS GONNA CAUSE UNDUE STRESS ON THE STRUCTURE.

HAVE HIM PUT IN A BRIDGE OR A BRIDGE CLASS CULVERT, THEN IT WOULD GO BACK ON OUR SYSTEM, WE BEGIN INSPECTING IT EVERY OTHER YEAR, THING HAPPENS AFTER THAT, THEN WE COULD PUT IT ON THIS PROGRAM.

I UNDERSTAND.

IT JUST, IT DOESN'T QUALIFY FOR OUR PROGRAM, SO.

OKAY.

AND, AND ALSO IT CAN BE A MIXTURE.

UH, IF YOU WANT TO PICK TWO OR THREE OF THESE THAT YOU WANT TO DO AN EQUIVALENT MATCH ON, YOU WANT TO PICK TWO OR THREE THAT YOU WANT TO DO A MONETARY MATCH TOO, WE CAN DO THAT AS WELL.

SO, SO IT DOESN'T MATCH ALL, DOESN'T ALL HAVE TO BE CASHED.

DOES IT ALL HAVE TO BE, UH, DO YOU NEED THAT INFORMATION TODAY OR WE'VE GOT ENGINEERS READY TO START WORKING ON THESE BRIDGES AND THEY CAN'T, SO WE HAVE AN AGREEMENT.

SO AS SOON AS I CAN GET THE INFORMATION, UH, WE CAN START THE AGREEMENTS, GET 'EM PROCESSED, AND THEN START WORKING ON THESE BRIDGES.

COULD WE GO AHEAD AND APPROVE THE AGREEMENT WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT THE COMMISSIONERS WILL GET, UH, TO YOU JUST AS SOON AS POSSIBLE WHAT THEY WANNA DO? THE UM, THAT IS ALSO, THAT IS ACTUALLY IN THE AGREEMENT.

THE EQUIVALENT MATCH PROJECT FOR EACH ONE HAS TO BE LISTED IN THE AGREEMENT FOR IT TO GET EXECUTED.

OKAY SIR, WE COULD GO AHEAD AND BATCH NO, IF NOT, WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS WE HAVE TO STIPULATE THAT TO DATE, WELL, BEFORE I CAN DO THE AGREEMENT, I HAVE TO KNOW WHAT YOU ARE GONNA DO FOR EACH, FOR EACH BRIDGE.

MM-HMM .

I MEAN IF YOU HAD, IF YOU SAID OKAY, WE WANT TO DO A COUPLE OF 'EM MONETARILY, I COULD GO AHEAD AND START PROCESSING THOSE WHILE YOU DECIDED ON EQUIVALENT MATCH PROJECTS.

UM, AND THERE ARE A COUPLE OF THESE, I DON'T KNOW WHICH ONES, I'M ASSUMING IT'S THE, UH, ONES WITH THE LOWEST SRS, UM, ARE ACTUALLY TAGGED FOR REPLACEMENT IN 2000, LATE 2016.

SO, YOU KNOW, IF YOU WANT TO DO SOME MONETARY MATCH AND WANT TO PICK THOSE, WE CAN GET THEM GOING AND WE CAN ADDRESS THE ON A LATER DATE.

SO GONNA ASK YOU IF YOU WANNA GO AHEAD AND DESIGNATE THE MATCH TODAY.

SO IF YOU, YOU, BRENDA, WHICHEVER ONE WE DO, WE CAN GO AHEAD AND GET THIS DONE SO WE DON'T DELAY IT.

YEAH, I AGREE.

I JUST, I GOT ONE QUESTION.

MONETARY MANION NOT NOT, UH, DOES THAT COME OUT OUR, EACH, EACH PRECINCT THAT'S AND YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT? NO, NO, IT'S NOT.

I SUPPOSE IT COULD COME FROM THE COUNTY, UH, ROAD POND, BUT WE TO GIVE TO JOHN ON THAT

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QUICKEST WAY MATERIAL THERE, THERE'S NO, UM, NO REPLACEMENT OF COLORS OF ANY SIDE ON MY END THAT WOULD, THAT WOULD QUALIFY FOR MATCHING.

THERE IS, UM, IF YOU'LL READ THROUGH AND, AND UH, IN THE EMAIL I SENT THE JUDGE, I KNOW I TALKED TO ONE OF YOU AND IT MIGHT HAVE BEEN YOU COMMISSIONER ROSA AND SAID THAT I FELT LIKE IT HAD TO BE ON OUR SYSTEM TO QUALIFY, BUT THAT'S NOT THE CASE.

UM, IF YOU LOOK AT PAGE FOUR, THEY'RE UNDER PARTICIPATION WAVE PROJECT, EQUIVALENT MATCH PROJECT.

UM, IT SAYS ON OTHER DEFICIENT BRIDGES OR CROSS DRAIN STRUCTURES.

SO IF THERE IS A LIST OF CROSS DRAINAGE STRUCTURES, UM, WE NEED THAT A MAP, 10 20, THE LOCATION AND AN ESTIMATE.

AND THEN ONCE WE DID THE AGREEMENT, YOU WOULD BE FREE TO DO THE CROSS DRAIN STRUCTURES.

AND THERE'S ALSO AN APPENDIX IN THE BACK THAT GOES INTO IT.

I KNOW A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL, UM, ON PAGE 15.

SO IT TELLS YOU WHAT AN APPROVED NP WORK IS AND NOT, SO, OKAY.

SO IF Y'ALL WANT TO GET TOGETHER, UH, DISCUSS, I WOULD BRING THE AGREEMENTS BACK TO YOU FOR EXECUTION.

SO YOU CAN SEE THE AGREEMENTS IN WHICH ONE WE ALLOCATED IF WE ALLOCATED A EMP PROJECT TO EACH BRIDGE BEFORE THE AGREEMENTS WERE SIGNED OR WHETHER IT WAS CASH, UM, CONTRIBUTION OR WELL, AND I, IT SEEMS TO ME IF EVERYBODY'S AGREEABLE, WE DESIGNATE WHAT YOU WANNA DO IF YOU'RE PREPARED TO DO THAT.

AND SO THAT WE DON'T SLOW THAT DOWN.

SO I GUESS YOU WANNA GO DOWN THE LIST? COMMISSIONER JIM, YOU WANNA START ON YOURS CASH OR IS THAT THE 1 51? IS THAT THE ONLY ONE YOU'VE GOT? I KNOW MY PRECINCTS ARE PROBABLY OFF TOO.

WELL, WELL THE, THE KINGS CREEK 2 79 THAT'S ON ACTUALLY ON THE BORDER BETWEEN PRECINCT ONE AND THREE.

OKAY.

I'M SO, AND THEN, UM, THE 1 51 IS IN THE, I WOULD SAY THAT ONE THEN THE BACHELOR CREEK, DEPENDING ON WHICH BRIDGE THAT IS, IT SAYS 2 62 ON, WELL ACTUALLY, EVEN IF IT'S ON UH, 2 7 9, THAT IS YOUR PORTION OF 2 7 9.

SO THAT WOULD, SO MINE, I'VE PROBABLY GOT THREE OF THEM.

1 51 AND 2 7 9 CASH.

AND I'LL LET YOU HELP ME PAY FOR IT.

YOU, YOU DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ON, YOU DON'T HAVE MINE IS THREE FOUR.

THREE FOUR AND I'VE GOT 40 83.

MM-HMM .

FEEL ABOUT THAT? I HEARD HIM.

I THINK HE'S THINKING THAT'S WHAT I LIKE.

VERY GOOD.

VERY GOOD.

ALRIGHT, SO I NEED A MOTION, UH, TO UH, APPROVE IF YOU'RE READY TO DO IT.

UH, COMMISSIONER ALLEN, THAT MOTION? DO I HAVE A SECOND MOTION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE BRENDA, WHILE WE'VE GOT YOU HERE.

YES, YES.

I KNOW YOU WORK WITH A TEAM OF, OF PEOPLE OUT AT TEXTILE HERE IN COFFMAN.

UH, I THINK WE'RE ALL AWARE AROUND THIS TABLE HERE THIS MORNING AND I'M SURE OUR CITIZENS ARE AWARE THAT WE'VE GOT A LOT OF PREPARED WORK GOING ON IN COUNTY.

I KNOW YOU'VE GIVEN US A NUMBER.

I KNOW WE'VE GOT MORE REPAIR WORK, UH, SCHEDULED, BUT WE'RE ABSOLUTELY DELIGHTED TO SEE THE AMOUNT OF WORK THAT T IS DOING IN OUR COUNTY.

AND I KNOW WE'VE GOT SOME NEW INSTRUCTION THAT'S GOING TO BE GOING ON.

ONE OF THE THINGS WE'RE GOING APPROVE LATER ON, UH, TODAY IS, UH, THE, UH, FM FOUR 60.

AND I KNOW THAT IS, UH, THAT, THAT THAT'S PROBABLY THE MOST DANGEROUS AREA, BUT IT MAY NOT BE THE MOST DANGEROUS, BUT THERE'S LOTS OF ACCIDENTS AT FOUR 60 AND HIGHWAY EIGHT AGAIN, SO WE APPRECIATE TEXTILE SPEEDING THAT UP AND HOPEFULLY WE'RE GONNA APPROVE THE FUNDS HERE TO DO OUR PORTION THROUGH THE COUNTY BOND PROGRAM.

SO ANY COMMENTS YOU'D LIKE TO ADD TO THAT? WE JUST REALLY APPRECIATE

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THE COOPERATION THAT THE COUNTY'S GIVEN US TRYING TO WORK THROUGH THE BOND PROGRAM.

UM, IT'S SOMETHING IN THE DALLAS DISTRICT THAT THEY'VE USED WITH SEVERAL OTHER, THE COUNTIES.

IT'S BEEN VERY SUCCESSFUL, UM, UP IN ROCKWALL COUNTY, THEY'VE USED IT, THEY'VE DONE THE ENGINEERING FOR NUMEROUS, NUMEROUS LARGE PROJECTS.

AND ONCE THE PLANS ARE DONE, IT SEEMS LIKE WE NORMALLY ALWAYS FIND A WAY TO FUND THE CONSTRUCTION ONE WAY OR ANOTHER.

SO WORKING IN TANDEM LIKE THAT, I THINK IT'S REALLY GONNA FIT SEVERAL OF OUR COUNTIES AND I'M, I'M SURE IT WILL BENEFIT KAUFMAN COUNTY AS WELL.

AND WE'VE DOUBLED OUR NUMBERS OUT THERE ON 34 AND 1388.

I KNOW YOU PROBABLY SEE TRUCKS PARKED ALL OVER THE PLACE ON OUR PROPERTY, BUT, UM, WE'RE REALLY TRYING TO RESPOND TO THE NEEDS OF KAUFMAN COUNTY AND TAKE CARE OF THE ROADS.

I UNDERSTAND YOU, UH, TDOT BEEFED UP YOUR MAINTENANCE CREW.

YOU GOT A FEW MORE HANDS NOW, A THEY DOUBLE EMPLOYEES DOUBLE.

YEAH, THEY, THEY DOUBLED OUR MAINTENANCE FORCES AND THEY DOUBLED OUR CONSTRUCTION FORCES, SO THAT'S RIGHT.

THAT'S GOOD FOR ALL OF US AND EVERYBODY IN THIS ROOM, BUT LIVES AND WORKS IN COUNTY.

I WANNA GIVE THE SPECIAL THANKS FOR WORKING ON F 25 78.

OH, OKAY.

I KNOW Y'ALL ARE DOING THAT INHOUSE AND, AND YES, WE'RE ALSO, UM, SCHEDULE I THINK NEXT YEAR ACTUALLY SCHEDULE, THEY'RE DOING SOME REPAIRS, UH, PREPARING IT FOR DOING SEAL CODE NEXT YEAR AND THEN WE'VE ALSO SUBMITTED THE OTHER SECTION OF 25 78 FOR SAFETY BOND FUNDING.

SO WE'LL SEE IF IT GETS PICKED UP FOR SAFETY BOND FUNDS.

SO, SO YEAH, WE TRY TO KEEP A MENTAL NOTE IN OUR HEAD AND IT MIGHT SEEM LIKE WE'RE DOING ALL THE ROADS AT ONE TIME, BUT IF THEY GIVE ME MONEY, I'M GONNA SPEND IT AND I'M NOT GONNA TURN IT DOWN.

YOU MIGHT NEVER GET IT BACK.

SO ABSOLUTELY APPRECIATE, APPRECIATE IS THERE ANY CHANCE, UM, YOU CAN GET THE COUNTY ALLOTMENT EVERY YEAR? WE'LL JUST CLEAN IT UP FOR YOU.

YEAH, I THINK, I THINK YOU ACTUALLY GOT SOME EXTRA OR WE'LL GET SOME EXTRA OUT THERE ON CORPORATE ROAD THAT WAS EVEN OVER THE COUNTY ALLOTMENT WHEN YOU PURCHASE IT.

I THINK THERE'S SOME OUT THERE WE LEFT THAT WE COULD MOVE, SO, OKAY, GOOD.

THANK, THANK YOU JUDGE.

YES MA'AM.

WE NEED TO MOTION SECOND.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

UH, UH, IS RANDY IN HERE? I WAS GONNA SOMEWHAT, IF YOU GET LAURA MOVE UP OUT OF NUMBER 17, UH, 15 AND 17, WHAT SHE HAS? PARDON? SHE HAS 15 AND 17.

OKAY.

UH, SHE'S, UH, NOT FEEDING WELL THIS MORNING.

I THINK SHE'S JUST HANGING AROUND HERE.

THIS LEMME LEMME CHECK AND SEE IF IT'S POSSIBLE IF YOU CAN GO AHEAD AND GET WELL, UH, ITEM NUMBER 10 IS KAUFMAN COUNTY EDC NUMBER ONE TO DISCUSS, CONSIDER DEFENSE LLCS APPLICATION AND AGREEMENT FOR ABATEMENT OF REAL PROPERTY.

AND UH, LEE, GOOD MORNING.

WE REC APPRECIATE YOU GUYS BEING HERE TODAY AND UH, REBECCA, I KNOW YOU'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS AND SO I'LL JUST LET YOU KIND OF LEAD INTO IT IF YOU WOULD.

WELL, UM, MR. A IS ACTUALLY GONNA PRESENT THE FIRST PART OF IT AND KIND OF INTRODUCE THE COURT.

THAT'S ALRIGHT.

SURE.

FIRST OF ALL, I'D LIKE TO INTRODUCE, UH, DENNIS BENSON.

MORNING DENNIS.

UM, HE IS THE, UH, PLANT MANAGER FOR TABLES MANUFACTURING INC.

THE, UM, THE, THE, UH, THIS COMPANY IS HEADQUARTERED, HEADQUARTERED IN, UM, EDGEWOOD, NEW YORK.

THEY HAVE, UM, THEY HAVE SEVEN MANUFACTURING PLANTS CURRENTLY IN FIVE DIFFERENT STATES.

UM, WE'RE PROUD TO SAY THAT THE, UH, ONE THAT DENNIS RUNS HERE IS PROBABLY ONE OF THEIR BUSIEST AND MOST PROFITABLE ONES, BUT THEY'VE OPERATED HERE IN KAUFMAN, TEXAS FOR APPROXIMATELY 40 YEARS.

SO THEY HAVE A NEED TO EXPAND AND WOULD LIKE TO DO SO LOCALLY.

THEY CURRENTLY OPERATE ON HOUSTON STREET HERE IN KAUFMAN IN A 240 SQUARE 40,000 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING AND PLAN TO CONTINUE TO DO SO THERE.

BUT THEY PURCHASED THE ODF PRODUCTS BUILDING AT FIVE 50 ENTERPRISE WAY.

IT'S BUILDING WAS BUILT SOME 40 YEARS AGO.

UH, IT'S BEEN ADDED ONTO OVER TIME.

IT'S ACTUALLY BEEN VACANT 14 OF THE 20 YEARS THAT I'VE LIVED HERE IN KAUFMAN AND WORKED IN KAUFMAN.

AND, UH, THE COMPANY'S APPLIED FOR INCENTIVES FROM OUR C ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION, WHICH WE HAVE APPROVED THE TAX ABATEMENT FROM THE COUNTY, THE CITY AND THE, UH, COMMUNITY COLLEGE DISTRICT.

THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO BRING THE BUILDING UP THE CURRENT CITY CODES.

UH, SEVERAL THINGS ARE GONNA NEED TO HAPPEN AND PUTTING ON NEW ROOFS, UH, ADDING MASONRY FACADES, THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO REWIRE THE ENTIRE BUILDING.

UH, THEY GOTTA REPLACE FLOORING ON THE INSIDE.

THEY'VE GOTTA ADD SPRINKLER SYSTEM TO ABOUT 25% OF THE BUILDING.

THE FIRM CURRENTLY EMPLOYS ABOUT 180

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PEOPLE AND, UH, AN ANNUAL PAYROLL OF MORE THAN $5 MILLION.

UM, THEY APPLIED FOR TAX ABATEMENT FROM THE COUNTY, UH, BASED ON YOUR CURRENT COUNTY POLICY.

AND SO WE AS YOUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PROFESSIONAL IN PRECINCT ONE, I RECOMMEND THAT YOU APPROVE THIS AT PRESENTED BY MS. LUNDBERG.

DENNIS, YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU'D LIKE TO ADD TO THAT? I DO APPRECIATE LEE, THANK YOU VERY MUCH OPPORTUNITY TO COME.

I DO APPRECIATE LEE AND ALL THAT.

THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PEOPLE HAVE DONE.

COFFMAN HAS BEEN GREAT TO US.

UH, MY DAD AND I, THIS COMPANY IN 1972 AND IN A 10,000 SQUARE BUILDING I'VE GOT 181 EMPLOYEES.

UH, I HIRED THREE PEOPLE.

WE STARTED IT, WE 81 AND WE ARE, UH, A LEADER IN THE FOOD SERVICE EQUIPMENT, UH, AND WHAT WE DO, UH, STAINLESS TABLE COUNTER SINKS.

UH, IF YOU EAT, YOU PROBABLY ARE BEING SERVED OFF THE TABLE FOR ONE OF THE TABLES AT A NUMBER OF PLACES.

SO, BUT, UH, WE'RE WORKING ON TOP OF OURSELVES RIGHT NOW.

UH, IF YOU GO DOWN HOUSTON STREET AND TRY TO TURN YOU IN, YOU'LL SEE SIX TRUCKS AT TWO O'CLOCK LINED UP TO, TO GET INTO THE DOCK WE DESPERATELY NEEDED, UH, TO, UH, EXPAND AND WE REALLY APPRECIATE LEE BRINGING BRINGING THIS UP TO US AND I KNOW THE PEOPLE, UH, IN NEW YORK REALLY APPRECIATE EVERYTHING TALKING, DOING.

OKAY.

DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD TO THIS? UM, I WOULD JUST POINT THE COURT TO THE SUPPLEMENTAL, UM, DOCUMENTS THAT WERE PROVIDED.

FIRST THE APPLICATION AND THEN IT HAS THE POLICY AT BEGINNING AN APPLICATION AND THEN SECOND THE ACTUAL AGREEMENT.

UM, THE APPLICATION HAS A LOT OF ENCLOSURES IN IT AND UM, THEY, AND JUST NOTE THAT THEY'RE APPLYING FOR THE, UH, FIVE YEAR ABATEMENT AND THEN THEY'RE ALSO APPLYING FOR TWO SEPARATE TYPES.

UM, ONE FOR SEPARATE EQUIPMENT, PERSONAL PROPERTY, AND THEN ONE FOR THE ACTUAL REAL PROPERTY.

UM, THE ONLY OTHER THING IS THAT OUR POLICY ON ABATEMENT IS UP IN DECEMBER AND SO THE COURT UM, DECIDES TO GO FOR AND ACCEPT THIS APPLICATION TODAY, ASK YOU GUYS TO MAKE AN ADDITIONAL FINDING THAT, UM, THIS APPLICATION FALLS THE POLICY BUT THAT YOU'RE MAKING AN EXCEPTION BECAUSE IT'S NOT LOCATED IN A REINVESTMENT ZONE.

AND I HAVE THE WORDING, UM, IF THE COURT VOTES THAT WAY.

UM, AND THEN I WOULD ALSO ASK THAT YOU GUYS CONSIDER, UM, REVIEWING THAT POLICY IN DECEMBER WHEN WE HAVE TO, AND THEN ALSO, UM, DO DECIDE WHETHER OR NOT WE WANT THE REINVESTMENT LANGUAGE FROM HERE ON OUT BECAUSE I KNOW THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF, UM, CONFLICT WITH SOME ABATEMENTS THAT WE'VE DONE AND MAYBE POTENTIAL ONES THAT WE HAVE COMING UP.

AND I JUST WANT THAT TO CLARIFIED.

WELL, AND I THINK THAT'S A GOOD IDEA.

ONE OF THE THINGS, AND I'VE MENTIONED THIS TO LEE IS I, I CERTAINLY DON'T WANNA CHANGE HORSES IN THE MIDDLE OF THE STREAMING.

I DON'T KNOW THAT THE COURT WOULD EITHER, BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE DO OBEY, OF COURSE, IS ALL THREE OF OUR TAX RATES THAT CURRENT TIME.

UH, BUT BECAUSE OF COUNTY ROAD ISSUE THAT WE HEAR, YOU KNOW, QUITE OFTEN ABOUT THE NEED FOR ADDITIONAL FUNDS FOR COUNTY GROVES AND ALSO TO HELP PAY OFF THE BONDAGE INDEBTEDNESS WE HAVE, IT'LL BE HELPFUL IN THE FUTURE, UH, IF WE'RE ABLE TO, UH, MAINTAIN THOSE FUNDS AND NOT LOSE THAT VALUE.

UH, BUT OUR CURRENT ABATEMENT DOES CAUSE FOR THE ALL THREE OF THOSE, UH, OF THOSE FUNDS AND THAT'D BE SOMETHING LEE, I MAY ASK YOU TO HELP US MEET THE EDCS FROM ALL OF THE COUNTY PERHAPS IN A WORKSHOP THAT WE CAN WORK THROUGH THAT IN IN THE FUTURE.

THAT'S NOT, I MEAN, WHY WE'RE HERE TODAY, RIGHT? THAT'S NOT WHY WE'RE HERE TODAY, BUT OBVIOUSLY IT IS SOMETHING WE DO NEED TO HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT.

IF I MAY JUDGE, I'VE SHARED THIS WITH AN EMAIL TO THE COMMISSIONER ROSA LAST WEEK AND I'LL SHARE IT WITH THE REST OF YOU.

I'D ACTUALLY ENDORSE THAT.

UM, IN OTHER WORDS, EXEMPTING THE ROAD BRIDGE TAXES AND YOUR INS OR SINKING FUND OR BOND BOND, WHATEVER, WHATEVER YOU GUYS CALL IT HERE, UM, PARTICULARLY THE TRANSPORTATION END OF IT.

THAT'S, THAT'S OUR, UH, NUMBER ONE ALLY TO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

WE'VE GOTTA HAVE GOOD ROADS TO GET, GET RAW MATERIALS AND PRODUCT AND PEOPLE TO OUR BUSINESSES.

SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I WOULD, UH, PROFESSIONALLY ENDORSE SHOULD YOU CHOOSE TO GO THAT ROUTE.

SO REBECCA, ARE ARE WE READY IF THE COURT SO APPROVED? ARE WE READY TO APPROVE THIS TODAY? I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING FURTHER AT THIS TIME.

I THINK THEY'RE READY BECAUSE THEY'VE SIGNED, UM, THE AGREEMENT.

THEY'RE CEO OF BOTH COMPANIES.

ALRIGHT.

COMMISSIONER, THIS IS IN YOUR PRECINCT? YEAH, THERE'S TWO FIVE YEAR ABATEMENTS, UM, IN HERE.

ONE OF THEM IS 400% PERCENT AB WHICH WHICH ABATEMENT SHOULD BE, YEAH, I THINK IT'S A RIGHT NEXT TO OUR PROPERTY AS WELL.

YES.

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GET IT CLEANED UP AND GET MIGRATION.

HUNDRED 81 EMPLOYEES.

THAT'S, UH, THAT'S, THAT'S HOW IT'S SUPPOSED TO WORK.

INDUSTRY SUPPOSED TO GROW AND IT'S ALWAYS GOOD TO HAVE NEW INDUSTRIES AND COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT, BUT IT'S ALSO GOOD TO HAVE EXISTING INDUSTRIES GROW AS WELL.

YES MA'AM.

I'D JUST ALSO LIKE TO CLARIFY THAT THE TAX STATEMENT COMMITTEE HAS ALSO MET AND THEY VOTED, UM, EACH OF THE FOUR ENTITIES INVOLVED IN THAT HAVE VOTED FOR THE ABATEMENT.

WELL THREE OF THEM AND THEN THIS WILL BE THE FOURTH IF WE ENTER INTO THE AGREEMENT OR HAVE THEY ALL VOTED ALREADY? IT'S ONLY THREE.

OKAY.

THREE TOTAL.

THREE TOTAL CITY JUNIOR COLLEGE AND UH, AND THE COUNTY.

AND THEN WHICH SPECIFIC COMMISSIONERS WERE ON THAT COMMITTEE ION AND THEN, UM, YOU GUYS BOTH VOTED FOR AT THAT POINT IN TIME? YES.

AND THEN EACH OF THE OTHER ENTITIES VOTE I MAKE MOTION ACCEPT THEIR APPLICATION, APPROVE THEIR APPLICATION FOR FOLLOWING THE EXISTING FOLLOW GUIDELINES.

WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER, WAIT, WAIT, I, UM, I'VE GOT SOME MOTION LANGUAGE TYPED UP SO THAT WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT IT MEETS THE POLICY.

THAT'S A GOOD IDEA.

DO YOU WANT ME TO JUST DO IT? READ THAT ONE'S FOR THE FIRST ITEM AND THAT ONE'S FOR THE SECOND MOTIONS APPROVED APPLICATION AGREEMENT FOR REAL PROPERTY APPLICATION POLICY AND MAKES THEM, UM, AMEND TO REINVESTED ON REQUIREMENT.

OKAY.

SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER ROSA AND A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER ALLEN.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

A.

THOSE OPPOSED? ALRIGHT, LET'S MOVE INTO IF YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO NO, MOVE TO I 11.

OKAY.

UH, ITEM NUMBER 11 IS, IS COUNTY EDC NUMBER ONE TO DISCUSS CONSIDER TABLES MANUFACTURING CATIONS APPLICATION AND AGREEMENT FOR ABATEMENT OF INVENTORY AND EQUIPMENT.

AND THAT KIND OF EXPLAINS SORT OF WHY THEY UNDERSTAND WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE.

THE, UM, THE POLICIES OF, UH, THE CITY AND THE COUNTY AND THE COLLEGE DISTRICT, UH, INCLUDE BOTH REAL PROPERTY AND PERSONAL PROPERTY AND INVENTORY.

REAL PROPERTY WOULD BE IMPROVEMENTS TO THE LAND AND BUILDING.

THE WAY I UNDERSTAND IT, PRIMARILY THE BUILDING AND THEN YOUR PERSONAL PROPERTY IS TYPICALLY YOUR FIXTURES, MACHINERIES EQUIPMENT AND THEN THE INVENTORY.

SO THE SECOND ONE DEALS WITH FIXTURES, MACHINERY, EQUIPMENT, AND INVENTORY.

SO IT'S, YOU DID A GREAT DESCRIPTION OF YOU.

I'M SORRY, DID NO, YOU DID FINE.

BRAG ON TOO MUCH .

ANY DISCUSSION? COMMISSIONER, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT IT? NO.

ANYBODY GOT ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS? OKAY.

MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVEMENT PROPERTY COURT FINDS APPLICATION POLICY AND MAKES AN EXCEPTION OF AMENDMENT TO REIN MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER RESOLVE.

SECOND.

MR. ALLEN SECOND MOTION.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? COMMENT? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

THOSE OPPOSED? THANK YOU VERY MUCH MR. BENON.

PROUD TO HAVE YOU AS THANK YOU.

I ONLY HAVE ONE COPY, BUT I'VE GOTTA GIVE IT TO HER AND I CAN A COPY THREE 12 SECTION, TWO MOTIONS.

JUST THAT.

ALL RIGHT.

ITEM NUMBER 12 IS, UH, FROM, UH, STEVE TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER APPRO THE KA COUNTY MITIGATION ACTION PLAN BY RESOLUTION PER GUIDELINES, LONG TIME COMING HAS, YES SIR.

THIS HAS BEEN COMBINATION OF THE TWO AND A HALF YEAR PROJECT, UH, A YEAR AND FIVE MONTHS OF IT'S REVIEWED WITH THE STATE AND FEMA AND UH, THE WAY IT WORKS IS ONCE THEY TECHNICALLY APPROVE IT, THEY SEND IT BACK APPROVED PENDING ADOPTION.

SO BY RESOLUTION WE HAVE TO ADOPT THE PLAN AND UM, ONCE THAT'S DONE, WE SEND IT BACK TO 'EM AND WE HAVE THE FULL APPROVAL OF PAYMENT AT THAT POINT.

AND THIS WILL ALSO HELP US IN THE LONG TERM BECAUSE OF THE DISASTER THAT WE'VE HAD AND WORK THAT'S GOING ON IN A LOT OF THE SESSIONS YOU'VE HEARD ABOUT THE THE 4 0 4 MITIGATION

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GRANT, THIS TIES DIRECTLY TO THAT.

WE GOT TILL DECEMBER THE FIFTH TO APPLY FOR ANY MITIGATION PROJECTS WE WANT.

UM, SO THIS WILL HELP US TO, TO GET SOME MORE MITIGATION DOLLARS INTO THE COUNTY FOR OUR ROADS, BRIDGES, UH, SAFE ROOMS, WHATEVER WE BE NECESSARY WE CAN, CAN GO FOR, UM, ADOPTING THIS PLAN COST YOU NOTHING.

THERE IS NO DOWNSIDE TO IT.

IT DOES HOWEVER, OPEN THE DOOR TO THESE MITIGATION GRANTS FOR, FOR THE FUTURE, WHICH ARE 75 25 GRANTS, MEANING FEDERAL GOVERNMENT PAYS 75 AND WE PAY 25.

SO AS AN EXAMPLE, IF YOU HAVE A $2 MILLION PROJECT, YOU BETTER TO PAY 250,000 AND THE FULL 2 MILLION.

SO IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING IF WE'D HAD, UH, HAD THIS PROVE THAT WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO ASSIST US ON YES SIR.

WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO DO SOME OF THAT.

DALLAS COUNTY GOT SOME OF THAT, SO, AND WE HAVE BEEN WORKING HARD ON IT.

AND ABOUT A WEEK AGO I SAT DOWN WITH THE TEXAS DIVISION OF EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT AND, UH, EXPRESSED MY DISPLEASURE IN THE YEAR AND FIVE MONTH PROCESS AND HE HAS ALREADY FIXED SOME OF THAT AT THE STATE LEVEL.

GOOD.

AND IS WORKING WITH FEMA AT THE REGIONAL LEVEL AND DIDN'T TO TRY AND FIX THEIR SIDE OF IT SO IT DOESN'T TAKE SO LONG IN THE WAS HE AWARE OF THE ISSUE? HOW LONG? YES, SIR.

HE WAS AWARE OF IT AND, UH, HE, HE APOLOGIZED.

HE SAID IT WAS ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT WHEN OUR PLAN HIT, EVERYTHING FELL APART, BUT HE ASSURED ME IT WOULD NOT HAPPEN AGAIN.

GOOD.

GENTLEMEN, DO YOU HAVE QUESTIONS, STEVE? OKAY.

DO I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE COLTON COUNTY MITIGATION ACTION PLAN? MR. SHANE MAKES THAT MOTION TO HAVE A SECOND, MR. PHILLIPS SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

THOSE CALLS.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU STEVE.

UH, PAM, CO PAM HERE, UH, PAM BEEN WORKING, UH, ON SOME GRANTS FOR US AND JUST SO YOU WILL KNOW, SHE'S GOING TO BE HEADED TO, UH, AUSTIN, UH, I BELIEVE TOMORROW OR WEDNESDAY.

WEDNESDAY, UH, TO MEET, UH, ALONG WITH REPRESENTATIVE FROM SENATOR, UH, HALL'S OFFICE AND REPRESENTATIVE SPENCER'S OFFICE ON SOME, UH, REIMBURSEMENT ON SOME OF OUR TRIAL EXPENSES WE HAD WITH THE AREA WILLIAMS TRIAL AND THE UPCOMING TRIAL.

BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT YOU'RE HERE TO TALK ABOUT.

THIS SOMETHING ELSE, BUT I WANT YOU TO BE AWARE OF THAT WE'RE STILL WORKING FEVEROUSLY TO GET FULLY FUNDED ON ALL THE EXPENSES WE HAVE OUTSTANDING ON UH, ERIC WILLIAMS AND THEN, UH, THE BROWNLOW TRIAL.

THAT'LL START HERE SOON.

YES SIR.

GOOD MORNING AND GENTLEMEN.

UM, SO I'M HERE TODAY JUST TO UPDATE YOU ON TWO OF THE GRANTS THAT WE WERE AWARDED THROUGH THE, UM, JUSTICE ASSISTANCE PROGRAM.

WE WERE AWARDED $14,400 FOR THE CONSTABLE SAFETY EQUIPMENT UPGRADE THAT WILL BE 12 NEW AND IMPROVED SAFETY VESTS FOR OUR CONSTABLES.

AND THEN THROUGH THE STATE AND CRIMINAL JUSTICE PLANNING FUND, WE WERE AWARDED $68,564 FOR THE 40 22ND COURT ENHANCEMENT PROJECT, WHICH THAT'S A DIVERSION COURT THAT MEETS ON FRIDAYS.

AND UM, THAT DIVERSION COURT WAS CREATED TO KEEP THE OFFENDERS SOBER.

IT'S A STEP PROGRAM.

THEY MEET WEEKLY AND THEN AS THEY DO BETTER, THEY MEET BIWEEKLY, MONTHLY AND THEN GRADUATION WOULD BE THE LAST STEP.

IT'S AN 18 MONTH, UH, PROGRAM TO COMPLETE.

SO THAT FUNDING WILL GO TO HELP FOR, UM, THE TESTING THEY NEED AND FOR THE MHMR FOR COUNSELING THAT THEY WILL RECEIVING.

YOU HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT EITHER OF THESE FRIENDS? I DON'T HAVE IT ON THERE.

WE DON'T HAVE IT ON AGENDA AS AN ITEM WOULD LIKE.

OKAY.

WITH DOING THAT.

NO FAMILY WORKS YOUR EYES OPEN FOR THESE GRANTS AND IF THESE, IF WE DON'T APPLY FOR 'EM, THIS MONEY'S GONNA GO TO SOME OTHER COUNTY OF TEXAS AND SO IT'S GOOD FOR US TO GET FAIR.

WHAT DOES COST, I MEAN HOW MUCH IS THE 6,000? IT ACTUALLY WAS FUNDED LAST YEAR ALSO, SO IT HASN'T COST THE TIME, ANYTHING IN THE PAST? THE TOTAL PROGRAM? THE TOTAL, YES SIR.

IT'S AN ONGOING, IT HAS BEEN SINCE 2010.

THE FIRST GRADUATES COMING OUT 18 MONTHS AFTER THAT.

AND I THINK WE,

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SO IT DOESN'T AFFECT, YEAH, I THINK BUT BOTTOM LINE IS IT HELP PEOPLE, YOU KNOW.

IT DOES AND I THINK IT'S HAD A VERY GOOD SUCCESS RATE.

SO YOU HAVE THE COURT, YOU HAVE THE PROBATION OFFICERS, EVERYBODY GOES IN ON FRIDAYS FOR MEETING AND WORKS TOGETHER.

UM, THEN THEY DO THE TESTING AND JUST KIND OF SEE HOW THE EVALUATION OF HOW THE PERSON IS DOING ON THE SAME PAGE.

ALSO THE, THE 12,000 FOR BEST FOR OUR CONSTABLES, THE 14,400, THOSE ARE GONNA BE, UM, NEW AND IMPROVED.

THERE'S A THINNER, EASIER TO MOVE IN, COOLER VEST SO THAT WE CAN TRY TO, UH, DEFINITELY HELP OUR COST OUT.

GREAT.

I GOT ONE QUESTION, PAM.

20 A AMOUNT 68 5 64.

THE NEXT PARAGRAPH HAVE DOWN THERE IS TOTAL FEDERAL STATE FUND APPROPRIATING 32 7 6 4 MAKE TWO PAYMENTS.

IT'S A FEDERAL GRANT THAT, THAT ONE IS A FEDERAL GRANT.

UM, SO I'LL HAVE TO LOOK INTO THAT.

THE 68, I MEAN THE 34 30 2000 IS PART OF THE 68,000.

YES.

YES.

'CAUSE ON THE FIRST GRANT FOR THE VEST, THE NUMBERS DON'T MATCH.

THOSE ARE TWO DIFFERENT FUNDING AREAS.

ONE IS GONNA BE THROUGH THE STATE AND CRIMINAL PLANNING PLANNING FUND AND THE OTHER ONE IS THROUGH THE JUSTICE ASSISTANT.

I'M ASSUMING THAT THEY, UM, MAYBE THEY DO PAPERWORK A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT.

IT'S NOT, NOT MUCH DIFFERENCE ON DIFFERENCE, BUT WE WILL RECEIVE 68,000 FOR ONE OF THE, THE SALARY POSITIONS TOO THAT IN ADDITION TO IT, ITS PORTION, PORTION OF HER TIME, THE DRUG TESTING KIT AND THE MHMR UM, ASSISTANCE THAT WE GET FOR EACH OF THOSE INDIVIDUALS.

AND THEN ON THE VEST, I WANT YOU TO UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S A FIVE YEAR, UM, WARRANTY ON THOSE VESTS.

SO AFTER FIVE YEARS EACH OF OUR OFFICERS NEED A NEW VEST.

SO THIS IS THE ONGOING PROCESS THAT WE NEED TO BE FINDING BY.

GREAT JOB.

THANK YOU.

ALRIGHT, DO I HAVE A MOTION TO UH, ACCEPT GRANTS THAT, UH, MOTION.

MOTION? PARDON? YOU ALREADY HAD THE GRANTS, DON'T YOU? YOU DO.

YEAH.

FOR ACCEPTING THE AWARD OF THE GRANT.

YEAH, JUST AND I, AND I UNDERSTAND, UH, THAT WE'RE ACTUALLY THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT SHOULD ACCEPT THE AWARD OF THE GRANT.

UH, YOU DO YOU THINK NOT NEED TO? I THOUGHT SHE WAS AUTHORIZED.

UH, I CAN'T RECALL WHETHER WE DID WE, WE BROUGHT THIS IN FROM THE COURT BEFORE TODAY, BUT AFTER THE EMAIL THAT WE RECEIVED, IT MIGHT BE I THINK AND THAT, BUT IF YOU FEEL COMFORTABLE, IF SHE'S BEEN AUTHORIZED TO ACCEPT IT ALREADY, THEN I DON'T, NOT NECESSARILY ANYTHING NEEDS BE DONE.

I THINK SHE WAS JUST UPDATING THE COURT.

OKAY.

THEY GOT QUESTION.

OKAY.

YOU THANKS JOHN.

OKAY.

AND WE'RE GONNA TAKE A BREAK HERE JUST IN A MOMENT.

BUT LET'S GO AHEAD AND DO NUMBER 14.

AND THAT IS TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER APPROVAL OF THE PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AGREEMENT FOR THE SA RAMP RELOCATION BETWEEN COFFMAN COUNTY AND MICHAEL LAKE INTERNATIONAL FOR THE US 80 RAMP RELOCATION PROJECT AND AMOUNT FIVE 46 CENTS.

UH, WE HAVE SOMEONE HERE FROM I TS, UH, COMMISSIONER, I KNOW THIS IS IN YOUR PRECINCT.

WE'VE ALREADY TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THIS THIS MORNING.

THIS IS THE, UH, FOUR 60 EXIT ON HIGHWAY EIGHT.

AND I, JOHN, YOU, I KNOW YOU'RE AWARE OF IT AND I THINK THE CITY POINT HAS BEEN INVOLVED IN THIS.

DO YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS? NO.

IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE DEFINITELY NEED WITHOUT A DOUBT.

IT'S ONE INTERSECTION AND THEY EVEN CAME UP WITH PLAN AND SAID, WELL YOU CAN THEN MAKE SOME OF THE PROBLEM RIGHT NOW BY YOU DO THAT.

THAT'S NOT REAL EXCEPTION.

DONE.

YEAH.

YOU ON HERE? DID YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS? NO, THIS WAS PART OF OUR ORIGINAL.

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SO ARE YOU PREPARED? WE ACCEPT THAT.

UH, DO WE HAVE A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER ALLEN? ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ABOUT, UH, FUNDING THIS INTERNATIONAL? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

A OPPOSED, WE'RE GONNA TAKE A QUICK BREAK HERE FOR A LITTLE BIT AND THEN WE'LL UH, COME BACK AND FINISH UP THE REST TO ORDER AND, UH, APPRECIATE EVERYBODY'S DUB THERE.

WE'RE GONNA GO A BIT OUT OF ORDER MS AT MORNING.

SHE'S NOT FEELING WELL AND I THINK ASHLEY'S GONE THROUGH THE HOSPITAL.

SO WE'RE GONNA GO AHEAD AND, UH, START 15, WHICH IS OUR NEXT ITEM.

THEN WE'LL DO THAT AND THEN WE'LL UH, UH, CONSIDER ITEM 17 AND 19 WHILE WE HAVE, UH, ALL THE PLAYERS THAT ARE HERE, UH, IN THE ROOM WITH US.

SO, UH, THE FIRST UH, ITEM IS TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ADJUSTING THE PAY PERIOD IN WHICH THE, UH, VEHICLE ALLOWANCE AND OUR SUPPLEMENTAL PAY IS PROCESSED FOR APPLICABLE, APPLICABLE EMPLOYEES.

AND UH, IS ONE OF YOU GOING TO TALK ABOUT THAT? UH, JACK OR, UH, I CAN WANT TO BASICALLY IT, IT JUST MEANS THAT THE JUSTICES WOULD LIKE THE, SAY BASICALLY PATRICIA WOULD LIKE HER SUPPLEMENT ON ONE CHECK AND HER CAR ALLOWANCE ON THE OTHER CHECK.

THEN IT TAKES MORE OUT HER PAYCHECK IF THEY PUT 'EM BOTH TOGETHER ON THE SAME PAYCHECK.

I THINK IT ALL COMES OUT TO HIM IN END OF THE YEAR.

SAME.

BUT IF IT GIVES YOU MORE MONEY TO TAKE HOME FOR A MONTH THAT MONTH, I, I DON'T HAVE A CLUE, BUT SHE SEEMS THE SAME.

IT DOES IT MAKE HUNDRED INSTEAD OF GETTING A CHECK AT THE END OF THE YEAR, SHE GETS A DIFFERENT PLACE AND I, I DON'T HAVE A BIG PROBLEM WITH IT.

THAT'S, I DON'T THINK IT MAKES ANY DIFFERENCE IN THE PAYROLL.

IF THEY JUST SPLIT IT UP AND PUT IT ON ONE AND PUT IT ON THE OTHER.

YOU HAVE TO CORRECT MR. UH, WE CAN, WE CAN CHANGE IT.

UH, BUT IT'S GONNA AFFECT EVERYBODY THAT GETS THE SUPPLEMENT.

UH, THE REASON WHY YOU PUT IT AT THE END OF THE MONTH IS BECAUSE YOU'VE BEEN THERE ALL MONTH AND YOU EARNED IT.

YOU PUT IT AT THE SECOND PAY PERIOD, YOU REALLY PAY FOR HALF THE MONTH.

BUT YOU MIGHT NOT BE HERE, YOU MIGHT RESIGN OR WHATEVER.

YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? OR SOMETHING HAPPENED.

I DON'T, THEY'RE RESIGN, YOU KNOW.

OH, I KNOW, BUT I'M JUST SAYING THAT IT'S A POSSIBILITY YOU, WE HAVE TO PROBABLY WATCH IT DURING ELECTION TIME IF A ELECTED OFFICIAL IS LEAVING OFFICE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE SURE.

WATCH THOSE VIEW.

UM, I GUESS IT'S WHATEVER THE COURT DECIDES THEY WANT TO DO.

UH, IT'S A MAINTENANCE ITEM IN OUR PAYROLL AND I THINK IT WOULD TAKE EXTRA PROGRAMMING.

UH, WE'LL MAKE SURE AND SEE, UH, POSSIBLY I MIGHT HAVE THE PAPERWORK OUT MY MAINTENANCE ON THE SOFTWARE IF THEY HAD TO CHARGE ME EXTRA.

I THINK WHEN WE DID THIS, ACTUALLY SOME OF OUR EMPLOYEES SAW WE REDUCTION IN THE AMOUNT THEY WERE.

THAT'S, I DON'T SEE A WHERE I GOT HEAD UP IN A HURRY.

I HAD A COMMENTS.

THAT TOO.

SO YOU DON'T, IT'S NOT GONNA CREATE A MAJOR ISSUE FOR PAYROLL THAT YOU'RE NO, IT'S A MAINTENANCE ISSUE.

HAVE CHANGE ON SUPPLEMENT.

OKAY.

REBECCA, DO YOU HAVE COMMENT? I JUST HAVE A QUESTION.

ARE THE ONLY APPLICABLE EMPLOYEES, ELECTED EMPLOYEES OR NOT? I THINK IT'S ONLY THE FOUR.

JUSTICE SUPPLEMENT? NO, IT'S, IT'S ALL ELECTED EMPLOYEES ON THE SUPPLEMENT.

THE JUDGES SUPPLEMENT.

I GUESS THAT'S WHAT SHE WANTS TO SEPARATE.

SHE

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I UNDERSTAND THE SAME.

IT BE THE SUPPLEMENT.

OKAY.

IT'S NOT, IT'S JUST THE SUPPLEMENT IT SEPARATE IT THE KEY PART.

KEEP YOUR BRACKET FROM BEING SO HIGH ON THAT ONE PAYCHECK.

EVEN SEE WHEN YOU PUT YOU PAYROLL IN AND YOU HAVE THOSE UH, FLAGS SET UP ON THOSE EMPLOYEES THAT GET SUPPLEMENT IN VEHICLE ALLOWANCE, IT WOULD PUT THAT PERSON IN A HIGHER TAX BRACKET POSSIBLY.

THEN WHEN YOU DO THE SYSTEM AUTOMATICALLY HAS RATES PUT IN THERE EVERY JANUARY, UH, FROM THE IRS ON WHAT TAXES.

SO THAT POSSIBLE IF COULD THROW SOMEBODY INTO A HIGHER TAX BRACKET.

SO IT WOULD BE BETTER IF YOU DID IT FOR ANYBODY THAT RECEIVES THE SUB THEY YOU'RE CAR THAT CAN BE HANDLED.

YEAH, I'LL SEE HE GETS DONE.

THAT ANSWERS MY QUESTION.

IT WAS JUST BROAD.

ALRIGHT, DO I HAVE MOTION APPROVE ADJUSTING MOTION? OKAY, COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS MAKES THAT MOTION.

SECOND COMMISSIONER ALLEN SECOND MOTION.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN PAPERS SAY AYE.

THOSE OPPOSED.

ITEM NUMBER 16 IS TO, I'M SORRY, 17 IS TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER APPOINTING AT COMMITTEE TO DETERMINE THE POLICY ON SALARY CHANGES AND AMENDMENTS.

THIS HAS BEEN AN ONGOING DISCUSSION NOW FOR QUITE SOME TIME AND LOOKS LIKE WE GET, UH, DIFFERENT.

WELL, I WANTED TO GO AHEAD AND DO 17 WHILE THEY'RE HERE BACK, WHO'S GONNA SPEAK TO THAT? UM, I CAN SPEAK TO THAT.

OKAY.

I REQUESTED THAT ITEM AND THAT COMMITTEE TO BE FORMED BECAUSE CURRENTLY WE HAVE, UM, SOME CONFLICTING EXISTING POLICY AND THERE WAS OF RECORDED ASKING TO LOOK INTO IT.

AND, UM, OUR POLICY AS IT IS MULTIPLE WAYS THAT IT, IT'S BEEN USED IN THE PAST ARE ALL LEGAL AT THIS POINT.

I'M JUST NOT SURE WHAT DIRECTION THE COURT, UM, WANTS TO GO AND WHAT'S THE MOST EFFICIENT POLICY AND PROCEDURE FOR THE COUNTY.

SO THAT'S WHY I ASKED FOR THE COMMITTEE TO BE CREATED IN ORDER TO CREATE OR, UM, ADOPT A POLICY, UM, THAT THEY BEST FIT.

OKAY.

I KNOW WE'VE HAD DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THIS OFF AND ON FOR SOME TIME.

SO WHAT THIS WOULD DO IS JUST SEND THE ONE A COMMITTEE AND HAD SUGGESTIONS TO SERVE ON THE COMMITTEE AND, UH, WHICH WOULD BE TWO COMMISSIONERS.

THE, UH, THE HR AND ONE FROM THE ASSISTANT'S OFFICE ARE, YOU'RE, PUT THIS I'M PRETTY, I'M PRETTY SURE I'M GONNA GET THAT ONE.

UH, DOES ANYBODY HAVE AN OBJECTION TO APPOINT THE COMMITTEE TO STUDY THIS? DO ANY OF YOU WANT TO SERVE AS IF WE NEED TWO COMMISSIONERS? YOU KNOW, I DON'T, I DON'T HAVE, I DON'T HAVE.

OKAY.

ALRIGHT.

SO THAT I'M, I JUST WANNA SIMPLIFY WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO.

WE CAN DO IT, I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY LEGAL, WE NEED SOMETHING.

I THINK MOST OF IT'S ALREADY, WE'VE GOT AG OPINIONS TOO.

THERE'S SO MANY OF THEM, YOU KNOW, THE BOTTOM LINE IS TO THE WHOLE THING, AND THIS IS WHAT I TOLD REBECCA THE OTHER DAY, NO MATTER WHAT WE SAID, POLICY, IT STILL DEPENDS ON THE BUDGET AND IT DEAL COMES TO RIGHT HERE.

SO WHETHER WE DEEM THAT DEPARTMENT HEADS HAVE AUTHORITY TO DO WHATEVER WITH THEIR PEOPLE AND UNDER WHATEVER, IT ALL STILL HAS TO COME BACK RIGHT HERE AND MAKE A DECISION.

SO WE'RE THE FINAL POLICYMAKER.

SO JUST UNDERSTAND THIS COMING BACK, DEVELOP, OR THE COMMITTEE COMES BACK WITH ASSUMING DO COME BACK WITH A POLICY WOULD AT LEAST GIVE US AGREEMENT.

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AND OF COURSE SOMEBODY MAY COME ALONG LAW CHANGE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

AT LEAST WE KIND OF TAKE MY ONLY OTHER REQUEST IS THAT WE, SINCE THEY NOW HAVE THE COMMITTEE, IT WOULD BE POTENTIALLY THIS WEEK OR NEXT WEEK, YOU HAVE PENDING REQUESTS.

AND JUST LIKE TO CLARIFY, THOSE AREN'T PENDING ANY LONGER.

WOULD YOU BE WILLING TO SERVE AS THE CHAIRPERSON OF THAT MEETING? YES, I WOULD BE WILLING, BUT I THINK THAT, UM, I'LL ASK MY OUR VA FOR CLARIFICATION AS TO WHO SHE, SHE WANTS TO SERVE AND I THINK THAT WOULD, I THINK IT WOULD BE ALRIGHT.

OR, AND SHE OR ANY OF THEIR DESIGNEES.

OKAY.

ALRIGHT.

DID I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE APPOINTING THIS COMMITTEE? COMMISSIONER ALLEN MAKE THE MOTION.

MOTION IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

NOW LET'S SKIP OUT NUMBER 19.

THIS IS ANOTHER COMMITTEE THAT HAS, AND, UH, I THINK JACK AND A COUPLE OF COMMISSIONERS WORKED ON THIS AS WELL, ALONG WITH THE AUTHOR.

UH, COUNSEL DID A HARD WORK ON THIS.

LOOK AT THIS AND QUESTION I, I'M WELL ENOUGH TO, UH, GO DAY AND THE ONLY, I'M NOT SURE THAT, THAT I WAS HAPPY WITH BECAUSE I, I DON'T KNOW THAT WE NEED MORE THAN A PHONE NUMBER.

OTHER WORDS, I DON'T KNOW THAT WE NEED BILLING INFORMATION.

AND REBECCA EVEN SAID THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE MIGHT BE SOME REPERCUSSION EVEN BECAUSE HALF OF THE EMPLOYEES, LIKE THE ONES IN YOUR, THEY MIGHT NOT EVEN HAVE A PHONE.

IT DOESN'T HAVE TO DO WITH, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T NEED, YOU KNOW, MY AND I, HER PHONE, I THINK WE'LL FIND THAT, AND I'M NOT SAYING THAT ALL BAILS HAVE THEIR THE PHONE NUMBER, YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? IT JUST THAT GENERALLY YOU PICK ONE POLICY AND GET THREE OR FOUR LINES ON THE SAME PHONE.

SO I DON'T KNOW THAT WE NEED FOUR OTHER PEOPLE'S PHONE NUMBER.

UM, AND IF IT'S THE FRONT PAGE THAT MINE SHOWS EVERYBODY WHO THEY'RE, WE'RE TRYING TO GET.

I THINK IF THEY, IF THEY HAVE A PHONE NUMBER AND THEY DON'T ANSWER IT OR, AND THEY REFUSE TO ANSWER IT OR ANYTHING HAPPENS.

IN OTHER WORDS, IF YOU'RE, YOU'RE ASKING YOUR PEOPLE TO GIVE YOU A PHONE NUMBER, THEN YOU HAVE IT AND YOU'RE THE PERSON RESPONSIBLE FOR IT.

SO IF YOU'RE HAPPY WITH IT AND WE ALL SHOULD BE HAPPY WITH IT, IT'S STORY.

I MEAN, I I JUST DON'T THINK MAKE IT TOO COMPLICATED, THAT'S ALL.

IT'S JUST NOT A, I DON'T THINK THAT'S AN ISSUE.

I THINK JUST ASKING FOR THE PHONE NUMBERS FINE.

I THINK SHE WAS TRYING TO VALIDATE FACT.

I UNDERSTAND.

I MEAN, I'M NOT TRYING TO, I'M NOT SAYING WE'RE GETTING PAYING FOR, BUT AS YOU BEING THEIR, YOU KNOW, IF YOU CAN'T GET A HOLD OF THEM, THEY CAN'T RESPOND TO THE NUMBER THAT THEY GAVE YOU, THEN YOU NEED TO JUST TURN IN A SLIP.

WE'LL JUST CANCEL THE PHONE, I MEAN, IS PRETTY SIMPLE.

I DON'T, I DON'T FEEL COMFORTABLE AUDITING IT OUTSIDE OF PHONE BILLS.

I'M NOT GONNA DO IT.

THAT'S WHAT I, I DON'T WANT JUST THE NUMBER.

THAT'S ALL I NEED.

AS LONG AS THEY HAVE A DESIGNATED NUMBER THAT DO, WHOEVER IT'S ELECTED DIVISION DEPARTMENT HEAD CAN CALL AND THEY ANSWER.

I THINK THAT'S SUFFICIENT.

FOR INSTANCE, I HAVE SIX LINES ON MY PHONE BILL.

IT'S NONE OF Y'ALL'S BUSINESS.

WHO MY PHONE, WHAT MY BABY'S NUMBERS ARE.

SORRY, I I'M, WE COULD CHANGE THE WORD.

OH, I AGREE.

I WAS JUST BRINGING UP MY ONLY BEING CONCERN THAN THAT.

IT'S GONNA BEAVER, I, IT DEPENDS ON WHAT ALLOWANCES YOU DECIDE ON.

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UH, IT'S ANYWHERE FROM, UH, A LITTLE OVER 11,000 TO ALMOST 20,000 SAVINGS.

YEAH.

TAKING OUT THE TIME THAT YOU HAVE, UM, PURCHASING THE BUYER, HAVING TO GET THE PHONES, TEST PHONES AND ALL OF HER TIME BY THE, BY THE MONTH IS ABOUT $762 ON HER PAYCHECK.

UH, THE PURCHASING AGENT HAVING TO GO OVER HER BECAUSE HE'S THE, THE AUTHORITY TO TAKE CARE OF SPECIAL ITEMS, PROVIDE SPECIAL PHONES, UH, YOU'RE SPENDING ABOUT 200 $9,400 A MONTH FOR THIS.

UH, YOUR AP AUDITOR THAT'S WORKING THE BILLS IS ABOUT 60 A MONTH BECAUSE SHE HAS TO GO IN AND CODE THOSE BILLS TO THOSE VARIOUS DEPARTMENTS BECAUSE YOU SEE THOSE BILLS AND THEN, UH, TWO OR THREE HOURS A MONTH JUST AUDITING AND MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE CHARGED TO THE RIGHT DEPARTMENT.

THEY'RE NOT PAYING FOR SOMEBODY'S BOND THAT'S NOT HERE ANYMORE.

OR THEY SLIPPED SOMETHING IN LIKE THEY DID ON THE BILL THAT WE WORKED ON THAT HAD TO BELONGED TO THE CITY OF KAUFMAN AND THEY BILL THIS COUNTY COFFMAN.

SO, UH, THAT'S THE VARIOUS SAVINGS YOU ARE LOOKING AT ABOUT 56,900 A YEAR AS COMPARATIVE TO DO THE ALLOWANCE.

KEEP THE ROAD BRIDGE UNTIL YOU GET YOUR RADIO, UH, TO ABOUT 37,000.

SO THAT'S ALMOST A $20,000 SAVINGS.

GOOD DEAL.

AND EMPLOYEE DON'T HAVE TO CUT ANYTHING, JUST CUTS.

THERE IS NO, AND IT'D BE A BIG CONVENIENCE FOR OUR EMPLOYEES TOO.

NOT THAT'D BE TEMPORARY.

CORRECT.

OKAY.

UM, I TALKED TO MS. BOY ABOUT THE CHANGE THAT COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS, UM, DISCUSSED UNDER THE PROCEDURE SECTION.

AND THEN I WOULD JUST RECOMMEND TAKING OUT THAT LAST LINE AND BILLING AND THE EMPLOYEE NAME.

UM, AND THEN THAT WAY IT'S JUST DETERMINED BY THE DEPARTMENT HEAD OR THE ELECTED OFFICIAL.

AND THEN HER CONCERN, UM, WAS JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT THE WAY SHE'S WRITTEN THE POLICY, IT DOES PUT IT, UM, THAT AUTHORITY WITH YOU GUYS.

SO IF YOU'RE CALLING A NUMBER AND IT'S NO LONGER WORKING OUT OF SERVICE OR YOU HAVE EMPLOYEE PERMITTED AND MAKE SURE TO FOLLOW UP THAT NUMBER OR THAT AMOUNT IS GIVEN BACK TO THE COUNTY, THEY'RE SUPPLEMENTED AND THEY'RE NOT USING IT.

YEAH.

AND IN, IN THE STATEMENT THAT WE GET THEM TO SIGN THAT BE IN THERE, THAT I'M HAPPY THAT I'M THE DEPARTMENT RULE, THEY CAN'T TAKE CARE OF THAT.

I'M SUPPOSED TO DO THIS MOTION.

WE'RE NOT, I'M NOT, WE'RE NOT THROUGH YET.

HAVE QUESTION.

OKAY.

I'M SORRY.

OKAY.

ARE Y'ALL AWARE OF THIS UNDER THE JUSTIFICATION OF THE ROUNDS THAT IF YOU REQUIRE AN EMPLOYEE TO HAVE THAT CELL PHONE AND THEN THEY QUIT, GO SOMEWHERE ELSE, MAYBE NOT WITHIN THE COUNTY OR TERMINATE 'EM OR THEY RETIRE THAT THE COUNTY'S GOING TO PAY.

I'M GONNA BE RESPONSIBLE FOR WRITING A CHECK TO PAY FOR THAT.

UM, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU BREAK A CONTRACT, NO.

WHAT YOU TALKING ABOUT? CELL HOLDING CONTRACT TERMINATION FEES, BUT CELL CONTRACT, NO, I WANT TO KNOW BECAUSE I'M GONNA HAVE TO SET SOME MONEY ASIDE TO BE ABLE TO DO IT.

NO, WE'RE NOT GONNA PAY, AGAIN, PLACEMENT CONTRACTS AND WE NEED TO PUT THAT AS AGREEMENT THAT'S ON THE FIRST PAGE UNDER JUSTIFICATION OF ALLOWANCE.

NEXT TO THE LAST PARAGRAPH CONTRACT THOUGHT THAT WAS IN RELATION TO THE CURRENT SERVICE PROVIDER OF THE CONTRACT IS THAT I THINK WE'RE SAYING HERE IS YOU HAVE A, THEY YOU GET A PHONE AND COUNTY AND YOU GET TERMINATED, CANCEL AGREEMENT.

IT WAS BROUGHT UP BY WORKING PEOPLE THAT WHEN YOU

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GET AWAY FROM HAVING A PHONE, NOW I GOTTA, MY PHONE USED FOR BUSINESS AND I LEAVE WORK OR GET TERMINATED, NEED EMPLOYEE A CELL PHONE.

I WOULDN'T, I WOULDN'T THINK SO I THINK WHERE RUB IS IS THAT SOME FOLKS BELIEVE THAT THEY HAVE A SEPARATE PHONE.

THEY DON'T WANT, UH, OTHER FOLKS TO KNOW.

WELL, YOU KNOW, I COME BACK, I BACK TO THAT SAME QUESTION SEVERAL TIMES I THINK CAN TALK ABOUT THIS ONE.

IF YOU'RE REQUIRED TO ANSWER THE PHONE, WHAT DIFFERENCE IS THE BANK POLICE PHONE? IN OTHER WORDS, YOU'RE GOING ANSWER.

SO IF PEOPLE HAVE THAT NUMBER, IF THEY HAVE OTHER PHONE NUMBER, IT GIVES THEM NO INFORMATION THEY DON'T KNOW ABOUT.

THAT'S A COUNTY NUMBER.

THEY DUNNO IF IT'S YOUR NUMBER.

AND SO IF YOU DON'T TALK TO NO MORE, YOU DON'T NEED TO.

NUMBER COMPLICATED DEAL.

I I SEE BOTH SIDES, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? IT'S JUST A LOT OF ISSUE.

FOR EXAMPLE, YOU'RE CHECKING ON AND UH, WHAT DOES THAT GIVE, WHAT DOES THAT GIVE, WHAT DOES THAT GIVE? SO IF I HAVE YOUR CELL PHONE NUMBER, WHAT DOES THAT GIVE YOU? NOTHING EXCEPT YOUR PHONE NUMBER.

IF YOU LOCK IT'S BLOCKED AT THE END, YOU KNOW, IT'S THIS END OF THE STORY.

I MEAN, UH, AND THEY'LL JUST HAVE TO CALL NUMBER.

THEY DON'T MATTER, YOU KNOW, SO I I'M GIVE THE ADDRESS YOU HAVE, IT DOESN'T TELL YOU ANYTHING.

SO RELATED CONCERN.

YEAH.

ALRIGHT.

I GET SAYING WE, WE'LL SAY YOU PROBATION AND CALL PARK OUT THERE, HAVE YOUR NUMBER.

WELL YOU MAY, BLOCK NUMBER MAY GIVE BUDDY AND MAY GIVE BUDDY AND THEY KEEP CALLING ON RON.

BUT HOW MANY OF US ANSWER THIS? HOW MANY, HOW MANY, HOW MANY TIMES YOU ACTUALLY PICKED THIS UP? ANDREW SAID, I DON'T KNOW THAT NUMBER.

YOU MAY A MESSAGE SOON AS YOU READ THE MESSAGE, YOU BLOCKED THE NUMBER.

YOU KNOW, YOU MIGHT HAVE TO DO IT FOR A COUPLE WEEKS.

I DUNNO.

BUT THAT'S, YOU KNOW, THAT'S THE ONLY ISSUE WE HAD.

THAT'S NOT A BIG THING.

I'M GOOD.

WHAT DO YOU GUYS WANNA DO? I DO HAVE A QUESTION.

I'M HOPING JOHN CAN ANSWER.

IT SHOULD BE TAKE THE STATEMENT.

HOW DOES THAT AFFECT, I MEAN IT BECOMES YOUR TEXT MESSAGES AND THE INFORMATION YOU RECEIVE ON IT.

OH, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT PUBLIC INFORMATION ACT? UM, IF YOU JUST LIKE, SO I CAN FIX IT NOW IF IT'S CONSIDERED ACCOUNT BUSINESS THAT IT'S GONNA BE SUBJECT TO IT AND THEN IF IT'S NOT, IF IT'S PERSONAL INFORMATION, THEN THAT'S NOT GOING TO BE.

SO JUST, I THINK IT'D BE APPROPRIATE TIME TO HAVE THAT DISCUSSION WITH YOUR EMPLOYEES THAT YOU'RE USING ACCOUNT EMAIL.

YOU REINFORCE YOU'RE NOT DOING PERSONAL STUFF ON THERE AS WELL.

BUT I MEAN IT'S GONNA BE JUST LIKE IT'S NOW, YOU KNOW, WHEN JOHN MAY HAVE SOMETHING.

I THINK THAT'S RIGHT.

I THINK THE OTHER THING TOO, TO REMIND PEOPLE IS UH, IS IS THERE IS NO PRIVATE EMAIL ON A COUNTY, UM, EMAIL ACCOUNT.

SO PEOPLE THAT DO PERSONAL BUSINESS OR SENSE OF, AND MAY BE SURPRISED TO THEM THAT IN OUR PERSONAL POLICY WE HAVE A RIGHT TO LOOK AT WHATEVER IT'S NOW OUR RIGHT TO DO IT AS THE EMPLOYER MAY BE DIFFERENT THAN THE RIGHT TO DISCLOSE IT, WHICH YOU, IT'S NOT GONNA SUBJECT HELP DISCLOSE IT TO OTHERS, BUT YOU KNOW, IT SEEMS AS THE EMPLOYER, IF WE SEEK THE APPROPRIATE, SO IF YOU DECIDE TO USE YOUR PERSONAL PHONE AND UM, COLLECT THE ALLOWANCE TOWARDS THAT AND JUST USE THAT NUMBER, THEN YOUR TEXT MESSAGES TO YOUR SON AND YOUR FAMILY ARE NOT GONNA BE SURGICAL IN THAT RECOVER.

NO, BUT, BUT LET ME PLAY THIS OUT.

IF YOU USE YOUR PERSONAL PHONE AND UM, AND ALTHOUGH MAY NOT BE DISCLOSED TO THE DEPARTMENT, I THINK YOU'RE OPENING YOURSELF UP TO THE EMPLOYER SAYING, I WANT SEE YOUR PERSONAL PHONE BECAUSE THAT'S THE COUNTY'S REIMBURSING FOR IT.

AND I WANT SEE WHAT'S REIMBURSING FOR USING PERSONAL BUSINESS, WHAT THEY USE.

WE JUST GIVE MONEY, ANSWER THE PHONE AND, AND TALK TO US.

LIKE I CALL WHAT I DON'T EMAIL, DO ANYTHING, IT'S HIS PHONE.

BUT ON THE COUNTY PHONE, GET LITTLE EXCITED ABOUT HIM SITTING THERE LOOKING AT THE,

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YOU KNOW, I, I WOULD, I WOULD, I WOULD GO STEP FURTHER.

IF, IF THERE'S SOME DISPUTE AND YOU SAY WHY CALL THEM BACK? WELL, THERE'S NOT A RECORD YOU CALL THEM.

LEMME SEE YOUR PHONE.

I THINK THAT'S APPROPRIATE.

I MEAN I I THINK WITH, WITH THE STIPEND COMES THE RESPONSIBILITY THAT IT'S YOUR PHONE THAT YOU NEED TO TURN IT OVER AT THE APPROPRIATE TIME.

YOU CAN'T BE ASKED, I MEAN GENERALLY SPEAKING YOU PROBABLY WOULDN'T EVEN DO THAT.

BUT TAKE EMPLOYEES TAKING MONEY FROM THE COUNTY, THE EMPLOYEES GIVING OUT CERTAIN THINGS ON THE RECORD ACT TOO.

YOU GO THROUGH THE, AND FILMS AND DIFFERENT THINGS.

THEY, THEY ALSO TALK ABOUT IF, IF YOU HAVE ON SOMETHING, THEY BE KIND OF SPECIFIC TO WHAT THEY WANT AND THEN PLUS HE JUST BRINGS YOU TO THE PHONE TO THE DA'S OFFICE AND SAYS THEY WANT THIS AND GIVE THEM THE INFORMATION.

AND THEN YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO BE ABLE TO TURN AROUND AND TELL THE PEOPLE HOW MUCH MONEY YOU'RE GONNA CHARGE THEM TO GO THROUGH HIS PHONE AND FIGURE OUT WHAT IT IS THEY NEED OFF OF IT.

AND MAYBE WE PERHAPS AGREE TO PAINT THE PRICE.

ALRIGHT, HERE COMES BRIDGE EXPERT.

I KNEW HE COULDN'T SAY NO EXPERT.

JUST A QUICK COMMENT.

WE DO IN THE FORENSIC FIELD, IN THE LAB, WE GOT THE PHONE.

IT DOESN'T DISCRIMINATE, YOU KNOW WHETHER IT'S PERSONAL OR COUNTY, IT'S ALL THERE.

THE DA'S OFFICE? NO, WE DO.

YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I WAS SAYING.

SO WE'LL TURN A REPORT OVER.

WE'LL GIVE HIM, I DON'T KNOW.

WE'RE LOOKING FOR PICTURES OF MOTIVATORS AND THE GUY TOOK THEM.

WELL THERE MIGHT BE CHILD PORN ON THERE.

WHO KNOWS WHAT'S ON THERE.

BUT WE DON'T DISCRIMINATE.

WE DUMP THE PHONE, YOU GET IT ALL.

SO IF IT'S ON THERE AND YOU'RE USING IT FOR ANYTHING, WE'RE NOT GONNA REDACT IT.

IT'S JUST THERE IT IS.

SO AS LONG AS YOU KNOW YEAH, BUT IF YOU HAVE AN OPEN RECORDS REQUEST FOR SOME SPECIFIC, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.

YOU'LL NOT REPORT ANYTHING THAT YOU FOUND ON THAT PHONE OTHER THAN WHAT OWNER NOT TRUE.

NO, NOT EXACTLY.

BECAUSE LET'S SAY, LET'S SAY WE DUMPED THE PHONE.

LET'S SAY IT COMES TO OUR LAB, OKAY, WE DUMPED THE PHONE OF AN EMPLOYEE, WE'VE DONE THIS, YOU KNOW, INTERNAL STUFF AND IF WE HAPPEN TO SEE SOMETHING, WE HAVE A REASON TO BE ON THAT PHONE.

WE SEEM TO SEE SOMETHING THAT'S INCULCATED.

IT'S ILLEGAL.

YES.

THEN YOU BETTER NOT DO ANYTHING ILLEGAL.

WELL, I'M JUST TELLING YOU, WHEN YOU KNOW THE PHONE YOU GET INVOLVED, I DON'T DO ANYTHING PHONE.

BUT I I GUESS TO TO MORE SPECIFICALLY ADDRESS THE POINT, THOSE RECORD WILL, WILL REQUEST PUBLIC INFORMATION I REQUEST WOULDN'T NECESSARILY BE MORE NARROW WHAT, WHAT HE IS SAYING.

WHAT I'M SAYING IS THAT AS AS THE COUNTY, ONCE YOU GET THE MONEY AND WE REQUEST THE INFORMATION, WE HAVE THE RIGHT TO THE PHONE AT WHATEVER'S ON.

RIGHT? LET'S SAY THERE'S A REQUEST FROM RATOR AND HE FILED FINDS CHILD PORN.

WE'RE NOT TURNING THE CHILD PORN OVER.

YOU'VE GOT A SEPARATE PROBLEM WITH, WITH YOUR EMPLOYER SEEING WHAT'S ON HIS PHONE.

THAT'S RIGHT.

I GET THAT'S RIGHT.

I DON'T, I GOT A TWO PAGE INFORMATIONAL PACKAGE I CAN DISTRIBUTE OUT TO YOU GUYS, UM, LATER.

THEN THAT WAY WE CAN GO THROUGH IT WITH YOUR EMPLOYEES AND IT BASICALLY SAYS IT'S SAME THING THAT, UM, SHERIFF'S OFFICE ARE SAYING ABOUT, UM, IT'S NOT WHETHER IT'S PERSONAL OR BUSINESS, IT'S THE CONTENT THAT YOU'RE NO, I AGREE.

I ASSUME OTHER COUNTIES HAVE IMPLEMENTED POLICIES.

THERE ARE A LOT OF OPINIONS ON AT AT T AND TALK TO ONE OF THEIR REPRESENTATIVES.

I DID THAT LAST WEEK ON MY PHONE AND TALKED ABOUT THREE DIFFERENT PEOPLE AND THEN THEY JUST HUNG UP POLICY HERE.

I'M SURE THEY'LL GIVE US SOME ADVICE, BUT WE MIGHT NOT EVER GET IT.

SO, OKAY.

THIS IS THE AMENDED, UH, UH, POLICY AND UH, JUST FOR THE RECORD, YOUR UH, YOUR MOTION IS GONNA BE AMENDED ON POLICY AS ENGINE THAT WE DISCUSSED THIS MORNING.

THEY, THEY GOT THE NAME, THE BILLING ADDRESS

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DISCUSSED.

WE'LL TAKE OUT OUT TO DO THIS.

PARDON? THIS WILL TAKE A WHILE TO GET EVERYBODY'S TOUGH CUT OFF.

OH YEAH.

IT'S GONNA BE AN ONGOING PROCESS.

YEAH.

LIMIT HAVE ONE.

WE DON'T EVEN NEED ONE.

IF WE DO IT, WE DO IT.

WILL THIS ALL BE HANDLED BY YOUR DEPARTMENT? OKAY.

SURELY.

SO YOU'RE GONNA REDO THIS? NO, I THINK HE'S GONNA AMEND IT TO THIS, TO WHAT WE JUST DISCUSSED.

WE'RE JUST MAKING, WE'RE JUST MAKING A MOTION MAKING.

YEAH, I WOULD GO AHEAD AND FINALIZE IT NOW SINCE WE'VE ALREADY PUT ALL THAT WORK ON THE SECOND PAGE, THAT THIRD PARAGRAPH FROM THE BOTTOM THAT IF YOU GUYS APPROVE THAT AMENDED PIECE OF PAPER THAT I SENT UP THERE, THEN, THEN WE CAN JUST MAKE THOSE CHANGES AND THEN YOU CAN VOTE ON IT.

THAT'S ONE THAT'S AMENDED.

A RECOMMENDED BY THE AND REPRIMAND BY THE DA'S OFFICE AND PERSON AND PERSON AND PERSON.

WE HAVE A MOTION FROM, UH, COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS, UH, TO APPROVE THE AMEND ITSELF ON POLICY WITH THE CHANGES THAT WE DISCUSSED THIS MORNING.

HAVE A SECOND COMMISSIONER LIK SECOND MOTION.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

A.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

NOW LET'S GO BACK UP, UH, TO ITEM NUMBER 16 AND THAT IS TO DISCUSS, CONSIDER APPOINTING MEMBERS AND ALTERNATES TO A SALARY GRIEVANCE COMMITTEE TO HEAR A GRIEVANCE FROM JUDGE JOHNNY ADAMS, JUSTICE OF THE PEACE PRECINCT.

FOUR.

UH, AFTER WE ADOPTED OUR BUDGET LAST WEEK, WE DID RECEIVE A, UH, I BELIEVE THERE'S A FIVE DAY PERIOD, UH, WHERE SOMEONE CAN GRIEVE THEIR SALARY AND JUDGE ADAMS UH, UH, CHOSE TO EXERCISE THAT.

RIGHT.

AND LET ME READ TO YOU, JUST SO YOU'LL UNDERSTAND HOW THIS WORKED.

I BELIEVE WE HAD ONE OF THESE LAST YEAR AS WELL THAT WE ACTUALLY DID.

BUT THIS IS SECTION 1 52 0 1 4 OF THE LOCAL GOVERNOR CODE.

IT SAYS IN EACH COUNTY THERE'S A SALARY GRIEVANCE COMMITTEE COMPOSED OF THE COUNTY JUDGE AND THE SHERIFF.

IT'S VERY SPECIFIC.

THE SHERIFF COUNTY TAX ASSESSOR COLLECTOR, COUNTY TREASURER, COUNTY CLERK, DISTRICT CLERK, COUNTY ATTORNEY OR CRIMINAL DISTRICT ATTORNEY, AND THE NUMBER OF PUBLIC MEMBERS NECESSARY TO PROVIDE NINE VOTING MEMBERS OR NINE PUBLIC MEMBERS.

IF THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT VOTE TO HAVE NINE PUBLIC MEMBERS.

THE COUNTY JUDGE IS CHAIRMAN OF THE COMMITTEE BUT IS NOT ENTITLED TO VOTE.

UH, PUBLIC MEMBERS MUST BE RESIDENT OF THE, UH, COUNTY.

AND I BELIEVE IT ALSO GOES A LITTLE FURTHER.

IT TALKS ABOUT, UH, THAT THE OTHER THREE MEMBERS OF THE, UH, COMMITTEE, UH, WOULD UH, BE CHOSEN FROM PEOPLE THAT HAVE SERVED ON THE GRAND JURY OVER THE LAST 12 MONTHS, I BELIEVE.

IS THAT RIGHT? SO IF YOU WANT TO, I CAN TELL YOU LAST TIME WE DID THIS, WE HAD A HECK OF A TIME GETTING OUR PUBLIC MEMBERS TO SERVE, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, IT'S CONFLICT.

YEAH.

AND IT'S, NOBODY WANTS TO REALLY, YOU KNOW, GET INVOLVED.

SO WHAT WE HAVE HERE IS THE CLERK HAS PREPARED FOR US A LIST OF PEOPLE THAT HAVE SERVED ON THE GRAND JURY FOR THE LAST 12 MONTHS AND WE PICKED THREE NAMES OUT AND LAST YEAR WE PICKED THREE ALTERNATES AND WE JUST BARELY WERE ABLE TO COME UP ON SUGGESTED.

THIS YEAR WE PICKED FIVE ALTERNATES.

AND SO, UH, THAT WOULD BEEN, THOSE FOLKS ALONG WITH THE ONES THAT HAVE BEEN DESIGNATED BY THE LAW, UH, HERE WOULD SERVE AS A GRIEVANCE COMMITTEE HERE, JUDGE ADAM GRIEVANCE.

AND WE'LL HAVE A CERTAIN TIME PERIOD TO DO THAT.

AND SO THAT WOULD THAT, THAT WORK.

I STATED THAT CORRECT.

PREVENTION.

OKAY.

SO, UH, I GOT AHEAD, UM, ON THE SECTION 1 52 0.016, UM, IT SAYS THERE THAT THEY, THEY MUST FILE GRIEVANCE BEFORE.

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SO WAS GRIEVANCE FILED BEFORE, BEFORE I FILE FILE GRIEVANCE? YEAH.

WELL, THE LETTER WAS WRITTEN ON DOESN'T HAVE A DATE ACTUALLY, BUT IT WAS GIVEN I BELIEVE TO US AFTER WE ADOPTED.

BUT I THOUGHT THEY HAD FIVE DAYS AFTER.

SO YOU'RE READING THAT MAY BE SOMETHING.

NEED SOME CLARIFICATION JOHN, DO YOU HAVE OPINION THEY'RE NOTIFIED OF THEIR SALARY BUDGET? WE HAD RUN THAT IN THE NEWSPAPER SHOWING THAT BUDGET.

NUMBER TWO.

YOU TALKING ABOUT ITEM RECEIVED, THEY DON'T GET THEIR NOTES ONCE WE GIVE THEM THAT NOTICE.

THEY'RE THAT WE DON'T.

I'M JUST SAYING THAT'S MASON.

SO, SO WHEN DID HE GET THIS NOTICE? HE GAVE IT, HE BROUGHT IT IN.

HE HAND DELIVERED IT TO THE, UH, I THINK THE AFTERNOON AFTER WE ADOPTED THE BUDGET CHARGE.

IT WASN'T, IT WAS JOHNNY'S NOT HERE RIGHT THEN? NO, UH, IT EITHER, IT WAS REAL QUICK.

DID THAT THAT AFTERNOON OR THE NEXT DAY BECAUSE HE DIDN'T CARRY AROUND ALONG LONG.

YOU WOULD JUST HANDED ME THE LETTER AND LEFT AND DIDN'T UNTIL YOU SET THE SALARIES.

YEAH, AND WE DIDN'T, WE DIDN'T OFFICIALLY SET THE SALARIES UNTIL WE VOTED ON THE BUDGET COURSE AND WE PUBLISHED THE PROPOSAL SALARIES, YOU KNOW, IN THE, BUT WE, UH, YOU KNOW, WE HAD THE REQUIREMENT THAT WE DO THAT, BUT WE ACTUALLY, UH, DIDN'T FORMALLY SET THE SALARIES UNTIL WE ADOPTED THE BUDGET SEPTEMBER, SEPTEMBER THE SECOND.

AND WE SHOULD HAVE STAMPED THIS, WHATEVER YOU CALL SHOULDA, BUT I IT PRETTY, I MEAN PRETTY QUICK.

WE HAD THIS HAPPEN LAST YEAR ON ANOTHER, UH, OFFICE.

I YES.

CERTIFICATE.

RIGHT.

WE'VE GOT ALL KINDS OF LAWYERS IN THE ROOM.

I'M SURE I'M TRYING TO READ THE CODE ON MY PHONE.

, HE WANTS TO COME BACK AND WE WE CAN, AND THE GOOD NEWS FOR HIM IS THAT THE DATE'S NOT GOING TO START UNTIL YOU SELECT PUBLIC MEMBERS OF COMMISSION.

BUT I I WILL SAY THAT IT DOES SAY MAY REQUEST A HEARING BEFORE THE SALARY GRIEVANCE COMMITTEE BEFORE THE APPROVAL OF THE COUNTY ANNUAL BUDGET.

RIGHT.

WHICH, WHAT JIMMY AND AND IN FAIRNESS TO COMMISSIONER OL, HE KNEW OR SHOULD HAVE BEEN WHAT, WHAT THE ACCOUNT WAS GOING BE BEFORE THE BUDGETS VOTED ON.

I THINK THAT WAS AVAILABLE TO EVERYONE.

WORKSHOPS AND EVERYTHING.

WELL, AND THE PROJECTED BUDGET WAS WELL AND THAT PLUS WE PUBLISH IN THE PAPER.

WELL, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW THE NOTICE THAT WE HAVE TO PUT OUT THERE.

PLUS WE HAD THE BUDGET, YOU KNOW, ADOPTED THAT WE ACTUALLY ADOPT THAT WE PUT ON JULY THE 31ST THE PROPOSED, LET THIS FOLLOW THAT.

BUT IT, IT WOULD NOT PROHIBIT HIM IF WE DELAY THIS.

IF, IF HE IS ENTITLED TO HEARING NO, THAT THAT'S WHY SAID THE COMMITTEE SHALL HOLD PUBLIC HEARING.

DON'T LET IT THE 10TH DAY AFTER THE DATE THE REQUEST

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IS RECEIVED OR THE DATE SELECTS THE, THE COMMITTEE.

SO THAT'S BE TRIGGER IN THIS CASE.

SO WE CAN TABLE THIS THEN UNTIL WE WELL, NO, NO, NO.

THEY, THEY, THEY SELECT THE PUBLIC MEMBERS.

SO, SO THEY HAVEN'T DONE THAT.

SO AS LONG AS DO THAT TODAY.

SO YOU WOULD SUGGEST WE TABLE THIS, I WOULD SUGGEST YOU TABLE IT DECISION IT RECEIVED ON THE DAY OF THE AFTERNOON AFTER THE, TO GO FORWARD.

AND IF SO, WHAT? IT DOESN'T SAY SHALL, IT DOESN'T SAY.

OKAY.

SO YOU HEAR THE RECOMMENDATION FROM OUR ATTORNEY THAT I HAVE A MOTION THAT WE TABLE ITEM NUMBER 16 FOR FURTHER STUDY BY THE ATTORNEY'S OFF, UH, THE DA'S OFFICE AND UH, THEN WE'LL MOVE FORWARD AND IT IT'S NOT, IN OTHER WORDS, IF HE DIDN'T MEET THE TIME REQUIREMENTS, UH, I'LL ASK THE DA'S OFFICE TO WRITE A LETTER OR WRITE ALL THE COURT A LETTER AND, AND ALONG WITH JUDGE ADAMS, WE'LL DO THAT.

WE'LL DO THAT.

SO WE'RE ALL INFORMED AND THEN, AND IF HE DID, THEN WE'LL SAY, YEAH, PROCEED APPOINT THE PUBLIC MEMBERS AT THE NEXT ITEM.

OKAY, WE HAVE A MOTION, UH, FROM THE COMMISSIONER ALLEN.

WE HAVE A SECOND.

COMMISSIONER SHANE.

SECOND.

MOTION TO TABLE THIS ITEM.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

A COMMITTEE.

ALL RIGHT.

NUMBER 18 IS TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER AUTHORIZING THE COUNTY JUDGE TO SIGN A SHORT TERM LEASE AGREEMENT FOR STORAGE OF THE COUNTY CLERK.

HISTORICAL RECORDS, THE FUNDS PAID FROM THE CLERKS RECORDS, UH, ARCHIVE.

DO YOU HAVE A COPY OF THAT? I BELIEVE.

AND YOU WANNA, OR YOURS? I GUESS THAT'S JUROR AREA.

I JUST HAD RELATED.

I BELIEVE THE HAVE COUNSEL HAS APPROVED IT.

UM, I'LL LET SPEAK ANYTHING, ANY QUESTION YOU GUYS MIGHT HAVE.

THEY'VE THE, WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO IS FOR STORAGE IN THE BASEMENT, BUT IN ORDER TO, YOU MIGHT HAVE TO TAKE THE FIVES THAT ARE IN THERE AND MOVE THEM SOMEWHERE AND THEN CHANGE THE CONFIGURATION FROM BEING A ACROSS THE STREET.

THREE AVAILABLE OFFICE ROOMS, THE BASEMENT, BASEMENT, THE THINGS LIKE THAT.

SEND THEM TO OR SURPLUS AND HIRE .

I GUESS THAT'S NOT THAT DETERMINED YET, WHETHER PAUL DO THAT OR THAT OUT.

SO THIS IS A, UH, IS IT AN ANNUAL LEASE OR TEMPORARY LEASE OR WHAT THE TIME WE, WE HAVEN'T 10 SET BETWEEN 46 MONTHS.

SIX MONTHS.

YES.

IT NEEDS TO BE EXTENDED.

DO OKAY.

AS FAR AS SECURITY ON THE DOORS, YOU SHOWED ME THOSE SPACES, THE RECORDS, YOU'LL HAVE THE ONLY KEYS LOCKS AND THE OFFICES HAVE A KEY LOCK.

WE HAVE A KEY IN THE FRONT DOOR.

THERE'S NO ONE WHO DOES SIT IN FRONT OF THAT BUILDING DURING THE DAY AND HAVE, UH, DISTRICT Y'ALL.

I THINK THE DA'S OFFICE IS LOOKING YES, LAURA, UH, THE CONTRACT TO US AND WE LOOK IT OVER, IT'S JUST A STANDARD COMMERCIAL LEASE.

THE ONLY THING WE ADDED WERE TERMS, UM, TO MEET THE STATUTE REQUIREMENTS FOR RECORD PRESERVATION, LIKE AIR CONDITIONING, OUR GROUP STUFF.

UM, SO LAURA WAS REALLY, UM, HAPPY WITH THE TERMS. I THINK THAT SHORT TERM GIVES HER THE FLEXIBILITY TO MOVE IN AND OUT AND GET OUR PROJECT FINISHED.

OKAY.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? GEORGE? UH, QUICK QUESTION.

NOT MY AREA, BUT WE WERE LOOKING AT SECURITY ACCESS CONTROL TON AND I KNOW JIMMY'S BROTHER WAS OVER THERE AT THE BACK DOOR.

DOESN'T HAVE A CRASH BAR.

RANDY MIGHT WANT TO SPEAK TO THAT.

WILL HE HAVE TO PUT A CRASH BAR ON THE BACK DOOR TO GET OUT IN CASE OF FIRE? BECAUSE RIGHT

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NOW IT'S KEY BECAUSE PART OF HIS BUSINESS HE DID INDICATE HE MIGHT DO THAT FOR US.

YEAH, HE SAID IT WAS NECESSARY THAT DEFENSE FOLLOW WHERE IT'S AT.

I MEAN WHO'S, IS THIS IN THE CITY OF KAMAN OR IN THE COUNTY? UH, CITY OF KAMAN WOULD BE THE AUTHORITY OF JURISDICTION.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT CO AMENDMENTS THAT THEY HAVE ADOPTED TO THEIR CODE.

THEY MAY REQUIRE IT REGARDLESS IF IT WERE IN THE COUNTY SETTING.

IF IT IS A, UH, BUSINESS CLASSIFICATION OCCUPANCY, LESS THAN 15 PEOPLE I BELIEVE IS THE NUMBER, UH, OF OCCUPYING AND IT'S A ONE ROOM SITUATION AND THE DISTANCE IS LESS THAN 50 FOOT, THERE WOULD ONLY BE ONE REQUIRED EXIT.

IF THE MAIN EXIT IS OBVIOUSLY VISIBLE FROM THE ENTIRE ROOF.

THAT'S THE WAY LIN COUNTY IS ADOPTED.

WE HAVE THE BASIC CODE, BUT UNDERSTAND THE CITY OF COMAN IS ADOPTED, THE CO AMENDMENTS AND, UH, QUITE, QUITE A FEW OF WHICH ARE ARE MUCH MORE STRICT.

SO WE WOULD'VE TO REFER TO THEM BEING THE AUTHORITY TO DETERMINE IF THAT IS A REQUIREMENT OR NOT.

SO, UH, WE'LL JUST NEED TO WORK THROUGH THAT.

AND WHO WOULD BE THE APPROPRIATE PERSON TO DO THAT? I WOULD CONTACT CHIEF RONNIE DAVIS.

OKAY.

JACK, IS THAT SOMETHING YOU CAN DO OR DO ISSUES OR I COULD BE A LIAISON.

DO YOU MIND DOING THAT RON? I READ I WOULD NOT BE THE AUTHORITY ON.

OKAY.

OKAY.

ALRIGHT.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? I JUST WANNA MAKE A COMMENT THAT I KEEP MYSELF FROM THIS RELATIONSHIP.

YES.

UH, MAKE NOTE OF THE RECORD, YOU WOULDN, WE HAVE ANY OTHER DISCUSSIONS, YOU'LL SEE ME, I HAVE THE DISCLOSURE FORM THAT I CAN PRINT OUT FOR YOU THAT WE'LL HAVE, HAVE YOU SIGN OUTSIDE, HAVE A MOTION, ANY OTHER DISCUSSIONS? ALRIGHT, WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER SHANE.

HAVE A SECOND.

MR. ALLEN.

UH, SECOND MOTION.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

OVER OPPOSED.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR EVERYBODY THAT'S, AND RIGHT NOW WE NEED TO, UH, ADJOURNED INTO A, UH, UH, EXECUTIVE SESSION.

AND SO ITEM NUMBER 20, I NEED A MOTION TO EXIT THE AND ENTERING INTO AN EXECUTIVE SESSION.

HAVE A MOTION FROM JACKIE, JACKIE ALLEN.

AND THE TIME IS 1136.

UH, AND THIS IS IN REGARDS TO THE OPEN MEETINGS.

ZACH.

5 5 1 1 2, 9.

DO I HAVE A SECOND? I SECOND.

UH, COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS SECONDS.

MOTION.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

THOSE OPPOSED? SO IF EVERYBODY WOULD LEAVE THE ROOM EXCEPT FOR THE PARTIES THAT ARE INVOLVED.

1, 2, 9.

ATTORNEY CONSULT REGARDING CLAIMS PIPELINE UNANIMOUSLY.

WE'LL NOW GO INTO UH, ITEM NUMBER 23 TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER TAKING ANY ACTION NEEDED AS A RESULT OF THE EXECUTIVE SESSION.

GENTLEMEN, WHAT'S YOUR PLEASURE? UH, CONTACT COMMISSION.

OKAY.

HAVE A MOTION FROM, UH, COMMISSIONER SHANE TO AUTHORIZE A HIRING OF, UH, SQUIRE PATTON AND BOGGS, UH, A LAW FIRM, UH, FROM DALLAS, UH, TO REPRESENT KAUFMAN COUNTY, UH, WITH A PROPOSED LAWSUIT, UH, AGAINST SEA WAVE PIPELINE.

AND, UH, WHAT'S THE NAME OF THE, UH, STRIKE STRIKE COMPANY WITH THE NEGOTIATIONS ON THE CONTRACT TO BE HANDLED BY THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.

PENDING, PENDING, PENDING A CONTRACT WITH DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE NEGOTIATIONS PENDING CONTRACT TO BE THROUGH, TO BE NEGOTIATED THROUGH THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE OFFICE.

WE'RE NOT GONNA SIGN THE CONTRACT? NO, NO, NO.

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AND WE'LL COME BACK AND DO THAT.

WE NEED TO HAVE A SPECIAL MEETING IF YOU THINK IT'S, UH, TIMEWISE.

DO THAT.

WE WE HAVE A MOTION COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS SECOND MOTION.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

THOSE OPPOSED? THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

ALRIGHT, AND JOHN, YOU AND WILL TAKE CARE OF ALL ITEM NUMBER 23.

I'M SORRY, NUMBER 24 IS TO DISCUSS, CONSIDER APPROVING LINE ITEM TRANSFER.

THANK YOU.

THAT'S AN ADDITIONAL ONE THAT WAS SUBMITTED TO ME BY THE TAX ASSESS COLLECTOR.

WE HAVE A MEETING LINE TRANSFER.

YES WE DO.

YOU KNOW, SOME OF THIS IS A RESULT TRYING TO USE SOME OF THE ONE TIME MONEY HAVE RECEIVED ON CONTRACT AND TAKE.

OKAY.

HAVE A MOTION.

I COMMISSIONER ZA MAKES A MOTION TO APPROVE THE LINE ITEM TRANSFERS THAT.

SECOND, SECOND.

COMMISSIONER ALLEN SECOND THE MOTION.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

A THOSE OPPOSED NUMBER 25 IS TO CONSIDER PAYMENT.

UH, CLAIMS THIS WOULD BE YES SIR.

PINE? YES.

YES.

UH, WE DID GET A LITTLE GRASS THAT YOU'LL KNOW WHERE THE CLAIMS WERE PAINTED FOR DRAWING THIS TIME.

THE AMOUNT TO $2,478,270 AND 15 CENTS.

SO HEY KW, GET A LITTLE GRAPH.

YOUR SECOND PAGE BREAKS IT UP, UM, BY DOLLAR AMOUNT.

SO YOU KNOW WHERE THAT 2,000,478 HAS BEEN SPENT.

710,000 OF IT'S ROAD BOND EXPENDITURES.

443 AND A HALF IS UH, INSURANCE, UH, ROAD BRIDGE MATERIALS 308 INMATE HOUSING HUNDRED 39 5.

UH, ERIC WILLIAMS APPEAL EXPENDITURES IS 111,000 APPRAISAL DISTRICT.

THIS IS THEIR LAST QUARTER'S PAYMENT OF HUNDRED 2000.

UM, SHOWS THE PAYOFF OF KSO VEHICLES THAT WE HAD.

AMERICAN NATIONAL OF 97.5, UM, E SOFTWARE THAT YOU APPROVED IN BUDGET, UM, TO DO WITH E-FILING FOR THE, THE COURTS IS NINE SEVEN, UH, PURCHASE OF THE PROPERTY FOR TAX.

Y'ALL HAD APPROVED THIS AND AGREED SPLIT THAT 52,000 ROAD BRIDGE, BUT IT WASN'T DUE TILL SEPTEMBER 15.

AND WE ALREADY GOT THE CHECK GRANTED AND JUDGE WOOD OVERNIGHTED LAST WEEK TO OFF THE PROPERTY DOWN.

I JUST LET THE COURT KNOW THE PROPERTY IS OFFICIALLY SOON AS THE, I DON'T PROBATE SENT EVERYTHING BACK TO AS FAR AS POSSIBLE.

WELL, UM, WE SENT THE CHECK TO THEM, BUT I MEAN THEY'VE GIVEN US, WE'VE GOT ACCESS TO THE PROPERTY.

UH, DE PROBATION STATE GAVE THEM SOME ADDITIONAL MONIES.

UH, SO THEY BOUGHT TWO VEHICLES, UH, 52,000.

UH, INCIDENT DEFENSE WAS 35,000.

UH, AUTOPSY IN POSTS WAS 20,000.

SO THAT LETS YOU KIND OF KNOW WHERE THE,

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SO DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTION ON THE BILLS? YOUR PAYMENT? MM-HMM .

PAGE NINE.

UH, WHICH CORNER ARE YOU? WELL THERE'S THERE'S THREE.

THREE DIFFERENT REAL TIME.

YEAH, THOSE ARE OUTSIDE COURT REPORTERS THAT ARE CALLED IN.

OKAY.

WHY? I MEAN, WE, EACH COURT HAS THEIR OWN COURT REPORT.

WHY WOULD WE CALL IN COURT REPORT FROM ANOTHER COUNTY? A LOT OF TIMES THOSE ARE FOR THE SPECIAL COURTS FOR LIKE CPS OR UM, UH, ATTORNEY GENERAL.

SOMETIMES THOSE JUDGES ARE VISITING JUDGES.

THEY DON'T HAVE COURT ONE QUICK LEFT ROCK.

THEY HAVE ONE THEY CALLED OUTSIDE S COURT.

SOUTH CAMPUS.

THERE'S TWO DIFFERENT COURTS.

SOUTH CAMPUS.

YEAH.

AND IF YOU HAVE COURT HERE ON VACATION, THEY'LL CALL IN COURT.

WHAT'S THE NEXT PAGE? DEALS CONTRACT.

MM-HMM .

WE HAVE A CONTRACT RELATED TO THE FEDERAL PRISON.

SOME OF IT IS FOR, UH, POPULATION LIMITATION, ADDITIONAL COST.

PART OF IT IS, UH, TO DO WITH, UH, OUR CONTRACT.

YEAH.

WE TURN IT BACK INTO THEM.

REP? YES SIR.

AND BRIAN HAS BILL WAITING FOR PAYMENT.

WE GOT OVER 80,000 COMING BACK.

RIGHT.

'CAUSE OF THE INCREASE IN POPULATION, THIS HAS TO BE MAY, JULY, JULY, JUNE AND SEPTEMBER.

SO THAT'S FOR ALL.

WE DIDN'T SAY THAT IN THE, WE DON'T, WE DON'T HAVE ROOM TO PUT THAT.

BUT IF YOU LEAVE OFF THAT LINE, YOU SAID NOBODY READS AND SAYS SPECIAL ADDRESS INVOICE IS IRRELEVANT.

IT'S, WE DON'T, WE DON'T HAVE THAT OPTION TO CHANGE IT.

CAN'T WE MANIPULATE THE SYSTEM? NO SIR.

I'M NOT MANIPULATE THE FINANCIAL SOFTWARE NOW.

IT HAPPENED.

CAN WE HAVE HAD THE COMPANY THAT PROVIDED THE SOFTWARE TO DO THAT? I CAN PROBABLY DO THAT, BUT WE'RE GONNA PAY FOR IT.

WHAT DO YOU I DON'T ANY IDEA.

I'D RATHER JUST ASK YOU THE QUESTION TIME AFTER TIME AFTER TIME.

IT SHOULD BE MAYBE KAREN.

QUESTION.

NEXT QUESTION.

ON THE INMATE ON THE SAME, THEY HAD THE SAME PO NUMBER THERE, BUT ALMOST LOOKS LIKE A DUPLICATION OF INVOICE.

WHAT DO DO? UH, 2020.

JUST RIGHT UP ABOVE ICS? YES.

I CS WELL THEY COULD HAVE ORDERED SOME AND THEN IT DIDN'T GET SENT IN COMMISSIONER, THEN THEY SEPARATED THE, THE PAYMENT NOTICE.

IDENTICAL AMOUNT,

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ALL DIFFERENT ITEMS. I JUST PULLED ALL 'EM BECAUSE ALL TOGETHER ON PAGE 20.

YES.

THAT IS A TIME PERIOD OF JANUARY, 2014 THROUGH AUGUST, 2015.

$75 AN HOUR.

49.

YEAH.

SEE THE DATES YEAR AND YEAH.

HEY, THAT'S NO PROBLEM.

I THOUGHT I RESPONSIBLE PAYING THESE BILLS.

I DON'T MIND ASKING.

QUESTION DIDN'T BREAK OUT LIKE THAT.

THIS IS BUT THIS IS THE FOR THAT'S THAT, THAT'S ALL WE HAVE.

THAT'S WAY IT WAS DONE BY PO I'M THAT, I'M JUST LOOKING HERE AND I HAD MARKED ON MY BOARD'S.

YEAH.

SEE SHOULD CHANGE THAT IS PIG OFF.

IS THAT, THAT THE SCREEN, IF I SAW THAT UNFOLD, I WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN ABLE TO MATCH THAT.

AND THEN THERE'S, YEAH, THEY ORDER FROM DIFFERENT PLACES.

SO ONE PO MIGHT HAVE THREE, FOUR LINE ITEMS THAT DEPENDING ON IT SUPPLIES OR IF IT'S THIS OR THAT.

I GET IT.

THAT'S WHAT DREW IT OFF THE GAS STATION.

GOOD QUESTION.

BUT WHEN YOU GET SMALL, YOU TRANSPORT SAY 500 GALLONS, YOU GETTING ALL THAT FUEL

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CARD, GET ANOTHER 15 OFF THAT.

OH WOW.

INSTEAD BE PAYING PAGE 30.

YES.

86 IS, IS THIS NORMAL FOR THE LIGHTS ON THE TANK MIGHT JACK THE LIGHTS SIX.

A SINGLE LIGHT BAR COULD BE 25,000.

AND THEN YOUR INTERSECTION LIGHTS SO FORTH.

IT'S POSSIBLE.

IS THAT WHAT THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT CARD IN FRONT THAT YES SIR.

I VEHICLE EXACTLY.

PURCHASE? YES, SIR.

OKAY.

SAVE A LOT.

FLASH 86.

A FLASHLIGHT RED LINK AND THAT, THAT IS WHAT Y'ALL REMEMBER FAR.

IF YOU DRAW FOR THE VEHICLE.

AND SECOND.

MR. SHANE SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AND MOTION TO ADJOURN MR. ALLEN.

SECOND.

ALL.