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IS GREG

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STAR, MR. THOMAS? GREG, ARE YOU HERE? YES, SIR.

I WAS GONNA GIVE MR. THOMAS MY TIME.

YOU WERE GONNA RELINQUISH YOUR TIME.

OKAY.

UH, MR. THOMAS IS FINISHED.

UH, NEXT PERSON IS LAURIE.

I'M SORRY, I'M CALL RORY.

I'M NOT SURE I CAN READ THE HANDWRITING.

I BELIEVE IT'S ABOUT THE SAME JUDGE WOOD.

I THINK SHE MAY HAVE GONE BECAUSE WE TRIED TO FIND, I TRIED TO FIND WHO SHE ONE, BUT HER LAST, TRYING TO ASK HER WHO HIRED HER LAST NAME BECAUSE NONE OF US COULD READ HER NAME.

ALRIGHT.

AND WE NEVER DID GET A RESPONSE, SO SHE MAY BE GONE.

WELL, I'M GLAD TO KNOW I'M THE ONLY ONE THAT CAN'T READ HER NAME, SO WELL, THE DEPUTY AND I, NEITHER ONE CAN READ HER NAME.

OKAY.

WELL, WE WILL MOVE ON.

AND IF THIS PERSON, SO WE'LL CROSS HER OFF, UH, UNLESS SHE REAPPEAR, WE WILL MOVE ON FROM HER FROM, UH, THE NEXT PERSON IS, UH, MR. LEONARD KIM LEONARD.

YES.

KEN, ARE YOU HERE TO TALK ABOUT THE MEMORIAL OR ARE YOU HERE TO TALK ABOUT SOMETHING ELSE? NO, I'M HERE TO TALK ABOUT MEMORIAL.

OKAY.

COME FORWARD THEN.

JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS.

I, I SERIOUSLY DOUBT I CAN SAY WHAT I WANNA SAY IN THREE MINUTES, BUT I'LL DO MY BEST.

THE LAST TIME I WAS HERE BEFORE COMMISSIONER'S COURT WAS OVER TWO AND A HALF YEARS AGO.

UH, Y'ALL WERE DISCUSSING, UH, BUILDING THE COURTS BUILDING.

AND THE TWO PEOPLE WHO SPOKE WERE ME AND MIKE MCCLELLAN.

UH, WE WALKED OUT HERE AND I TOLD MIKE MCCLELLAN, YOU CAN'T BE STANDING OUT HERE IN THE OPEN.

AND HE SAID, I KNOW EXACTLY WHO KILLED MARK HASLEY.

UH, STANDING OUT THERE ON THE SIDEWALK, TWO YEARS OF TWO AND A HALF YEARS HAVE PASSED AND THERE'S BEEN NO DISCUSSION OF A MEMORIAL FOR MIKE MCCLELLAN, CYNTHIA MCCLELLAN AND MARK HASSEY.

UH, AND THAT'S SOMETHING THIS COURT NEEDS TO ADDRESS.

THE OTHER THING I WANT TO TALK ABOUT, I GAVE YOU COPIES OF THE PROCEDURE WE WENT THROUGH WHEN THE VETERANS MEMORIAL WAS BUILT.

IT WAS A PROCEDURE THAT TOOK YEARS.

IT STARTED WITH A RESOLUTION.

AND, UM, THIS IS THE SITE PLAN THAT THAT COMMISSIONERS PAID FOR, THAT, UH, THAT LAYS OUT WHERE EVERYTHING OUT THERE IS GONNA GO, WHERE A COURT'S BUILDING IS GONNA BE, WHERE FUTURE JAIL STATES IS GONNA BE.

IF THIS SITE PLAN IS AMENDED, IT NEEDS TO BE AMENDED BY COMMISSIONER'S COURT.

UH, BECAUSE WE'RE THE ONES THAT ARE BACK THEN, WE WERE THE ONES THAT ARE .

I, MY HEART GOES OUT.

'CAUSE I'M, YOU KNOW, THE, I I I'VE VOTED FOR AND SUPPORTED, UH, SHERIFF THOMAS IN TWO ELECTED IN TWO COUNTIES, UH, WHEN WE LIVED IN DALLAS COUNTY.

HE CAME WITH SMOKEY JOE MARTIAN TO THE, ROUGHLY, TO THE BROADWAY CHURCH OF CHRIST AND TALKED ABOUT HOW MANY PEOPLE WERE BEING LED TO CHRIST IN THE DALLAS COUNTY JAIL.

AND SINCE THEN, MY FAMILY AND MAYORS HAVE BEEN JOINED AT THE HEART, HONESTLY.

AND MY HEART GOES OUT AND I WOULD NOT CRITICIZE ANYTHING ABOUT THAT MEMORIAL EXCEPT COUNTY COMMISSIONERS HAVE A JOB AND WHEN, AND WE CAN'T, UH, WE CAN'T FORCE SUBSEQUENT COMMISSIONER COURTS TO FOLLOW THIS PLAN, BUT IT TAKES COMMISSIONER COURT TO DEVIATE FROM THAT PLAN.

AND I WOULD ASK Y'ALL TO PLEASE AND, AND, AND WE HAVE A BIG MESS NOW.

AND I UNDERSTAND Y'ALL DIDN'T CREATE IT, BUT IT IS UP TO Y'ALL.

Y'ALL RAN FOR OFFICE, YOU SIT THE BIG CHAIRS AND IT IS UP TO Y'ALL TO SORT IT OUT.

AND I WOULD ASK THAT Y'ALL PRAY THE WISDOM JUST LIKE I DID AT THE BEGINNING, BECAUSE IT'S GOTTA BE SORTED OUT AND IT'S GOTTA BE SORTED OUT.

BUT PLEASE DO NOT FORGET MIKE MCCLELLAN, CYNTHIA MCCLELLAN AND MARK HASSEY, WHO WERE KILLED IN THE LINE OF DUTY, AND IT'S BEEN TWO AND A HALF YEARS.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

UH, THE NEXT PERSON THAT WISHES TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM IS LARRY.

MR. LIK I WISH TO RELINQUISH MY TIME TO MR. MYERS.

OKAY.

MR. MYERS, RAY MYERS NEXT TO SPEAK ON THE MEMORIAL.

AND MR. MYERS, YOU'LL HAVE A TOTAL OF SIX UH, MINUTES WHEN YOU GET UP HERE.

THANK YOU, JUDGE.

AND THANK YOU COMMISSIONERS FOR THIS TOWN.

UM, I'M HERE TO SHOW SUPPORT FOR ALL POLICE OFFICERS WHO HAVE DIED IN THE LAND OF DUTY IN FALTON COUNTY AND THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE NATION.

OUR COUNTRY'S AT CROSSROADS AND WE'VE ALL BEEN, WE'VE ALL BEEN AWARE, ALL WE HAVE TO DO IS WATCH TV, READ THE PAPER, AND SO FORTH.

AND THERE'S A, THERE'S A TOTAL ATTACK ON OUR POLICE OFFICERS ALL OVER THE NATION,

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AND WE ALL NEED TO STAND FIRM AND BACK TO BLUE IN THE COLMAN COUNTY TEA PARTY.

WE'VE HAD THREE MEETINGS.

THREE, WE'VE GONE TO THREE DIFFERENT, UH, BACK TO BLUE, UH, PROGRAMS IN THE PAST MONTH.

WE EVEN HAD A PROGRAM FOR BACK TO BLUE AT OUR RECENT, UH, PROGRAM WITH, UH, COLONEL ALLEN WEST.

I ALSO AGREED WITH KEN LEONARD.

IT'S TIME THAT WE SUPPORT A MEMORIAL FOR OUT MC MARKEY.

ALSO A GENTLEMAN GOT KILLED BY THE NAME OF ROBERT STOUT FROM CAMAN COUNTY IN FACT.

AND ALSO IN, IN 2005, A GENTLEMAN GOT KILLED IN CAMAN COUNTY IN LINE OF DUTY, A CONSTABLE, HIS NAME WAS JOHN D BUR IN THAT, IN, IN THAT HILL THAT WE HAVE TO SHOW SUPPORT FOR ALL THESE PEOPLE.

WE DO BACK THE BLUE.

WE'RE WORKING, UH, WE ARE, WE HAVE A WORKING RELATIONSHIP WITH GOODMAN COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE, THE ROCKFALL COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE, COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE, AND ALSO WITH, UH, SHERIFF ANDY LAUDER BACK, WHO IS THE, WHO IS THE, UH, STATE CHAIR OF THE SHERIFF'S ASSOCIATION.

WE PLAN ON AND WE ALSO ATTEND ON, ON ATTENDING THE BACK THE BLUE ORGANIZATION, UH, THAT, UH, SUPPOSED TO BE HELD SHANNON PARK AND CALL.

I ALSO AGREE, UH, THAT, UH, THAT WE NEED TO BE VERY, VERY MINDFUL OF PEOPLE WHO ARE DECEASED AND WHO, WHO, WHO HAVE, WHO HAVE GIVEN THEIR HEART AND SOUL IN CALIN COUNTY FOR THE THINGS THAT THEY BELIEVE THAT IS RIGHT.

AND I, I AGREE WITH THE SHERIFF ON THAT, AND I REALLY DO.

WE HAVE NO PROBLEM AT ALL WITH THIS MEMORIAL.

ABSOLUTELY NOT.

UH, ALL WE BELIEVE OR ALL WE'RE THINKING ABOUT IS THE FOLLOW THE ORDINANCE AND THE CON THE COUNTY COMMISSIONER SHOULD BE INVOLVED IN THE PROCESS.

THAT'S THE MAJOR THING THAT WE HAVE TO, UH, TO, UH, TO, TO WORK ON.

AND I WOULD ASK, UH, THE SHERIFF, SHERIFF IS, IS THE SHERIFF HERE, DID, DO YOU HAVE THE SOLE AUTHORITY OVER THE GROUNDS AND, AND COFF, I MEAN OVER TO THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE AND, AND EVERYTHING AND DO YOU KNOW IF THERE'S ANY ORDINANCE WHERE YOU HAVE TO FOLLOW A PROCEDURE TO GET A DONATION OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT ON THERE? THERE IS A LAW THAT'S THIS DONATION IN WHEN COMING TO THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE.

OKAY.

OKAY.

WELL, UH, AS A PRIVATE CITIZEN, I'M BASING, I'M READING THE SECTION IN THE LAW OF THE COUNTY.

OKAY.

TEXAS CODE NUMBER, SECTION 8 1 0 3 2 OF THE TEXAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE, WHICH STATES THAT COMMISSIONER'S COURT MAY ACCEPT A GIFT GRANT, DONATION, BEQUEST, OR DEVISE, UH, OF MONEY OR OTHER PROPERTY ON BEHALF OF THE COUNTY FOR THE PURPOSE OF PERFORMING A FUNCTION CONFERRED BY LAW ON THE COUNTY OR A COUNTY OFFICER.

WE HAVE NOT FOUND ANY LAW THAT ALLOWS THE SHERIFF OR ANY OTHER COUNTY OFFICIAL TO ACCEPT DONATIONS FOR THE COUNTY.

OBVIOUSLY THERE MUST BE A CASE IN THIS ITEM, UH, WHICH WOULD NOT BE ON, I'M SORRY, THIS MUST BE A CASE OF THIS ITEM THAT WOULD NOT BE ON THE AGENDA.

I'M NOT HERE TO VOICE MY APPROVAL OR DISAPPROVAL OF ANY DONATION, BUT TO ASK WHY THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE, UH, AND HIS DEPARTMENT.

I ALSO WANT TO KNOW WHY JUDGE WOOD WOULD ALLOW THIS TO PROCEED IF EACH OF YOU KNEW THE LAW ABOUT DONATIONS SPECIFICALLY PROHIBIT A, A DONATION, ESPECIALLY THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT BEFORE CONSTRUCTION.

AND I UNDERSTAND CONSTRUCTION HAD, UH, ALREADY STARTED.

I UNDERSTAND THAT NOW MS. THOMAS IS, IS WANTING TO INCLUDE OTHERS ON MEMORIAL, WHICH IS JUST FACT, WHICH, UH, WOUND THE CHARGE BY THE CHANGE OF LAND.

NOTHING HAS BEEN PRESENTED IN AN OPEN FORM FOR THE TAX PAYING CITIZENS WHO WILL BE ACTUALLY PAYING IN PERPETUITY FOR THE MAINTENANCE, LIGHTING, IRRIGATION AND SO FORTH.

I UNDERSTAND THAT THE PLACEMENT OF THE ITEM AND TODAY'S AGENDA IS THAT IF WE FURTHER KEEP THE, THE TAX PAYING CITIZENS ABOUT FINDING OUT ABOUT WHO THE, THE, THE, UH, THE UH, MEMORIAL, THE MEMORIAL WILL, WILL MEMORIALIZE, WHO WILL PAY, WHO WILL MAINTAIN BEFORE IT'S COMPLETED PASSAGE OF THIS ITEM TODAY WILL FURTHER PROMOTE THE SECRECY OF THE PROJECT.

ALL WE'RE SAYING IS LET'S LOOK AT IT AND LET'S FILE THE PROCEDURE.

THE PERCEPTION IS WE DON'T WANT MONEY TO INFLUENCE THIS ITEM.

AND WHAT WE FOUND HERE, IN MOST CASES, YOU UNDERSTAND WHY SOMETHING THAT APPEARS TO BE UNETHICAL AND PROBABLY ILLEGAL, ONE ONLY NEEDS TO FOLLOW THE MONEY CLAIM.

THAT'S IT.

POLITICS, THAT'S, THAT'S BEEN GOING ON EVERYWHERE AND IT IS STILL GOING ON.

RESEARCH AND RECENT RECORDS SHOW THAT WE HAVE FOUND THAT SHERIFF BURNS HAS RECEIVED ALL OVER $4,000 IN DONATIONS FROM THE THOMAS FIRM.

MR. BEAVERS HAS RECEIVED A DONATION OF $24,000 FROM THE LAW FIRM, FROM FROM HIS FIRM.

AND ALSO I THINK IT'S GOOD ENOUGH, UH,

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THAT UM, THAT THE SHERIFF, UH, THAT THE JUDGE WOOD HAS RECEIVED A THOUSAND DOLLARS FROM THIS TOTAL IS WELL OVER $29,000.

WHILE MS. THOMAS HAS A RIGHT TO DONATE TO ANYBODY SHE WANTS TO.

AND THAT'S GREAT.

WE UNDERSTAND THAT THE APPEARANCE OF THIS PUBLIC OFFICIALS RECEIVING SUBSTANTIAL CONTRIBUTIONS COULD APPEAR TO HAVE AN INFLUENCE OVER THEIR DECISIONS TO LET THIS PROCEED WITHOUT COMMISSIONER'S COURT OF PROOF SEEMS LIKE THIS KIND OF THING LEGITIMIZES DISTRUST WHEN YOU'VE GOT MONEY LIKE THAT INVOLVED.

LET'S WORK TOGETHER WITH MS. THOMAS IN OPEN AND BY THE RULES AND THE LAW TO CREATE A MEMORIAL THAT HONORS ALL COUNTY OFFICIALS.

YOUR TIME, JUDGE.

I'M SORRY.

OKAY, THANK YOU VERY MUCH JUDGE.

THANK YOU.

APPRECIATE IT.

UH, THE NEXT PERSON, UH, THAT'S ON THE AGENDA OR THAT'S SIGNED UP TO SPEAK IS BRIAN MARTIN.

UH, AND HE ALSO WISH, WISH TO SPEAK ON THE MEMORIAL, UH, ISSUED HIS RIGHT HERE THIS MORNING.

YES.

OKAY.

YOU WANNA RELENTLESS YOUR TIME TO THE SHERIFF, COME BACK UP AND I CALL YOU SHERIFF BECAUSE YOU ARE THE FORMER SHERIFF DALLAS COUNTY AND, UH, ONCE THE SHERIFF HALLWAY SHERIFF JUDGE, THANK YOU JUDGE.

I'M ALSO A FORMER US MARINE, SO YOU CALL ME SERGEANT .

MR. MYERS, YOU'RE SO FAR OUT LEFT FIELD.

THE , YOU KNOW, THIS IS A FREE ASIDE FIRST AMENDMENT OF THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES ALLOWS US TO SUPPORT WHO WE WANNA SUPPORT AND AS LONG AS WE WANT CAN AFFORD TO MAKE CONTRIBUTIONS TO THOSE PEOPLE, TO ELECT GOOD PEOPLE, WE INTEND TO DO IT.

YOU KNOW, I WASN'T BORNED WITH A SILVER SPOON IN MY MOUTH LIKE YOU MIGHT WANT PEOPLE TO BELIEVE.

I STARTED THIS BUSINESS WHEN I LEFT THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE IN 1981 AND I WAS THE SOLE GUARD, THE SOLE BOOKKEEPER, THE SOLE COUNTY.

WE BUILT THIS BUSINESS FROM THE GROUND UP AND TURNED IT TO A MULTIMILLION DOLLAR CORPORATION AND WE DO BUSINESS IN 35 STATES.

AND I'M PROUD OF THAT FACT AND I'M NOT RUNNING FROM IT AND I'M NOT HIDING IT.

AND I'M GLAD THAT WE CAN SUPPORT BRIAN BE AND I MAY GIVE HIM ANOTHER $25,000 AND I MAY GIVE THE SHERIFF 5,000 OR 25,000 BUCKS.

I MAY GIVE BRUCE WOOD 25,000.

I MAY GIVE HIM JP 25,000.

I MIGHT GIVE STEVE, NO, YOU'RE NOT GETTING ANYTHING.

BUT ISN'T IT A WONDERFUL COUNTRY WHEN PEOPLE CAN DO THIS? IT'S CALLED CAPITALISM IN A CAPITALISTIC SOCIETY.

AND THAT DOESN'T NEGATE THE FACT THAT YOU ATTACK MY FAMILY.

AND THAT'S MY CONCERN.

THE REST OF IT DON'T MATTER TO ME.

THE MEMORIAL GARDEN DOESN'T REALLY MATTER TO ME OTHER THAN THE FACT THAT IT SHOULDN'T BE DONE BECAUSE PEOPLE IN LAW ENFORCEMENT DESERVE THAT, ESPECIALLY THIS DAY AND AGE.

AND FOR YOU OR ANYONE ELSE TO ATTACK THE SHERIFF WHO'S REALLY BUILT AN EXCELLENT DEPARTMENT HERE AND HAS PROTECTED THE SYSTEM OF THIS COUNTY.

AND SHAME ON YOU AND SHAME ON ANYBODY ELSE THAT'S DONE THAT.

AND SHAME ON YOU FOR THIS, SIR.

THANK YOU JUDGE.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

ALRIGHT, LET'S GO BACK NOW TO ANOTHER ITEM.

AND AGAIN, I DO APPRECIATE WHERE YOU CAN, IF YOU CAN CONSOLIDATE YOUR COMMENTS, UH, UH, TO ONE SPEAKER OR, UH, SO WE CAN MOVE THE PROCESS ALONG.

UH, THE NEXT ITEM THAT WE WOULD GO BACK TO IS, UH, AN ITEM CALLED COMMISSIONER ISSUES.

UH, THIS IS FROM, UH, MIKE CRAWFORD AND MR. CRAWFORD, I BELIEVE YOU ARE HERE.

AND UH, JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE THIS MORNING, UH, I WAS CONTACTED, UH, PRIOR THE MEETING STARTED STARTING BY COMMISSIONER ROSA ABOUT WHETHER YOU SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO SPEAK TO THE SAME ISSUE, YOUR HONOR, UH, THAT YOU SPOKE, UH, EARLIER ABOUT LAST TIME.

AND SO I TALKED WITH THE DA'S OFFICE AND UH, I AM GOING TO GRANT THAT PERMISSION, UH, BECAUSE THERE WAS NO REASON FOR ME NOT TO DO THAT.

BUT WE DON'T HAVE RULES IN PLACE THAT, THAT, UH, COMMISSIONER ROSA AND I HAVE TALKED AND I'VE ALSO GIVEN HIM THE SAME OPPORTUNITY WHERE HE CAN ADDRESS THREE MINUTES AS WELL.

AND UH, COMMISSIONER, I'LL ASK YOU TO DO THE SAME THING SINCE YOU'LL BE SPEAKING AS A PRIVATE CITIZEN.

UH, IF HE'S MICROPHONE GET READY TO DO THAT.

YOU SPEAKING AS COMMISSION OR I'M ASKING HIM

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TO, I THINK HE WANTS TO SPEAK AS A PRIVATE CONTRACTOR.

YES.

YOU SHOULD ONLY SPEAK AS BOTH SINCE HE WANTS TO BE BOTH.

WELL, THAT'LL BE ADDRESSED.

LET'S, LET'S GO AHEAD.

SO YOU MAY AGAIN AND THANK YOU FOR WELL, I'D LIKE TO COMMENT ON THE KEY PARTY.

IT WAS, UH, PEN CODE OR WHATEVER.

I WAS HOPING HE COULD BUST OUT ONE TALK ABOUT THE CONFLICT OF INTEREST FORMS THAT SHOULD BE FILLED OUT THERE.

BUT ANYWAY, CAME BACK.

I WANTED TO CLARIFY AFTER I LEFT HERE LAST TIME, UH, YOU KNOW, I READ IT IN THE PAPER AND WAS TALKING AND THEN I THINK, UH, EVEN THE DA'S OFFICE OR WHATEVER, I WANNA CLARIFY.

I'M NOT JUST AN UPSET LAND OR A PROPERTY OWNER BECAUSE MY PROPERTY, A LITTLE BIT OF MY PROPERTY GOT FOR UP.

I'M UPSET BECAUSE COUNTY COMMISSIONER SLASH FIVE CONTRACT.

I DON'T KNOW WHY I DID IT WITHOUT MY PERMISSION.

WITHOUT THE CITY'S PERMISSION AND WITHOUT THE COUNTY'S PERMISSION, I'M DOING IT BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE IT'S AN AMUS OF AUTHORITY.

I FEEL LIKE IT'S A LIABILITY.

I SAID ALL THIS, BUT AS WE LEFT THAT DAY, I GO AHEAD AND LOOK AT THE, IN THE PAPER AND STUFF AND IT LIKE, HE'S JUST MAD BECAUSE WE WERE WORKING IN THE ROAD DITCH.

NO, THAT'S NOT IT.

THERE'S A SUCH THING AS LIABILITY AND THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS I WAS UPSET ABOUT BECAUSE WHO'S LYING? I WAS UPSET THAT I KNOW THAT.

AND THEN IF I WERE TO HAVE DONE THAT AS A CITIZEN, I WOULD'VE PROBABLY BEEN ARRESTED.

WHY? YOU HAVEN'T BEEN? I DON'T KNOW.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON THERE AND, BUT I'M GONNA FIND OUT BECAUSE IT'S TRESPASSING.

I TALKED TO THE MAYOR, THE MARY KAY OF MY RESIDENCE.

YOU REFERRED ME TO THE DA'S OFFICE AND TO THE MAYOR.

YOU WOULDN'T ANSWER YOUR QUESTION.

IT JUST LIKE THE REST OF THESE DIVERSIONS, I GUESS YOU AND THIS TEA PARTY OR WHOEVER, I DON'T KNOW NOTHING ABOUT YOU OR THEM.

THERE'S A LOT OF DIVERSIONS.

EVERY TIME YOU GET INTO A SITUATION, YOU'VE GOT AN ANSWER.

IT'S NOT IT THAT MAY NOT HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH WHAT I'M ASKING.

YOU SENT ME PAPERWORK.

I LOVE THAT.

I REALLY LOVE THAT.

I ASKED FOR WHERE YOU GOT PERMISSION TO COME ON MY PROPERTY.

YOU SENT ME A PROJECT, AN INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE COUNTY AND THE CITY.

THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH MY PROPERTY.

THAT THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH YOUR PRIVATE COMPANY AND MY PROPERTY OR YOU AS A COMMISSIONER IN MY PROPERTY.

YOU SHOULD HAVE AN AGREEMENT FOR MY PROPERTY.

THEN YOU SEND ME THIS ONE AND I DON'T WHO FILLED THIS OUT BY THE WAY.

I I UNDERSTAND.

I DUNNO IF YOU UP SCHOOL, HOPEFULLY THEY'VE COME LONG WAY SINCE YOU'VE BEEN THERE.

THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH MY PROPERTY.

THIS WAS ACTUALLY, THIS ONE WAS SLASHED THROUGH, THE DATES WERE SLASHED THROUGH CHANGED.

I DUNNO WHAT THAT'S ALL ABOUT.

IT'S BY EMAIL.

SO I I DIDN'T DO YOUR, UH, YOUR TIME HAS EXPIRED.

I FORGOT TO GIVE YOU THE 15 SECOND WARNING, BUT YOUR TIME HAS EXPIRED.

SO THE NEXT PERSON, UH, THAT WISHES TO SPEAK ON THIS ISSUE IS SYLVIA A HERE.

MM-HMM.

I'D LIKE TO MR. CR.

OKAY.

YOU'D LIKE TO YIELD YOUR TIME TOO.

YES SIR.

MR. CRAWFORD, YOU MAY BEGIN THIS PAPERWORK HERE, WHICH WAS DATED FILE 11 FOR A DOLLAR AMOUNT OF 5,400 AND I CAN'T 42 WHATEVER IT IS FOR TIMBER CREEK SUCH AND SUCH PASSING THIS, THIS DOESN'T WORK FOR THAT DATE ON MY PROPERTY.

SO YOU'RE NOT GONNA MANIPULATE ME.

YOU MAY MANIPULATE THE DA'S OFFICE, WHOEVER, I DON'T KNOW, BUT YOU'RE NOT GONNA MANIPULATE ME WITH YOUR THIS PAPERWORK.

AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED.

AND I DON'T KNOW THE LAW.

I'M NOT A LAWYER, BUT AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED IS I'M ALMOST FRAUDULENT TO PUT THIS, GIVE THIS TO ME TO TRY TO MANIPULATE ME OR TRICK ME INTO, YOU HAVE PERMISSION TO BE ON MY PROPERTY WHEN YOU DON'T.

I THINK MY OPINION IS, IS YOU'RE SO COMFORTABLE THAT THEY'RE GONNA PROTECT YOU AND DEFEND YOU.

YOU DO WHATEVER YOU WANT TO DO.

AS I UPSET YOU IN YOUR EMAIL, YOU'RE NOT GONNA DO WHAT YOU WANT TO DO WITH ME.

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AND I CAN TELL YOU THAT YOU'RE NOT GONNA MANIPULATE AND DIVER GETTING A LITTLE DIVERSIONS.

I MEAN, I, I READ UP ON SOME OF THE STUFF, UH, THAT'S PRETTY PATHETIC.

IF I WANTED TO, AND I'M GETTING ON ANOTHER SUBJECT, IF I WANTED TO DONATE SOME OF MY MONEY AND PUT A MEMORIAL IN, I PROMISE YOU, YOU WOULDN'T STOP ME BECAUSE I'D GO THROUGH WHATEVER I HAD TO BEFORE YOU OR ANYBODY ELSE TO PACK A FAMILY LIKE THAT, THAT YOU ARE PATHETIC AND WHOEVER ELSE HAS DONE THAT.

NOW, I, A MONTH AND A HALF AGO, I, I DIDN'T EVEN KNOW WHO YOU WERE OR ANY OF YOU AND DIDN'T CARE UNTIL YOU CAME ON MY PROPERTY AND YOU TOOK, AND WHEN I QUESTIONED YOU, YOU SAID YOU WERE A COMMISSIONER THEN YOU SAID YOU WERE A PRIVATE CONTRACTOR, THEN YOU WENT BACK TO THE COMMISSIONER, YOU SAID YOU WOULD CHARGE ME.

YES SIR.

YOU DID.

YOU CAN SAT THERE AND LIE ALL YOU WANT.

THAT'S THE, THAT'S WHAT P****D EXCUSE MY MIND.

I'M SORRY.

IT MADE ME SO MAD.

I WENT BACK IN THE HOUSE AND YOU KNOW IT, YOU CAN SAT THERE AND SHAKE YOUR HEAD LIKE YOU DID LAST TIME.

I'M HERE, I'M NOT GOING ANYWHERE.

SOMETHING'S GONNA GET RESOLVED ABOUT THIS.

AND YES, I AM UPSET.

I SEE WHAT YOU DO WITH OTHER PEOPLE.

LIKE I SAID, I DIDN'T KNOW WHO YOU WERE.

I GOING, THERE'S ALWAYS RUMORS.

YOU GOT 15 SECONDS FOR ME.

IF YOU CAN GO AHEAD AND FINISH THE 15 SECONDS NEXT, GO AHEAD.

YEAH, THERE'S ALWAYS RUMORS I SEEK OUT AND LOOK AT SOME OF THIS STUFF.

I ALMOST WANT TO BELIEVE IT BECAUSE OF WHAT YOU'VE DONE WITH ME.

OKAY.

THE 15 SECONDS IS, UH, UH, NEXT PERSON ON THE AGENDA THAT WISHES TO SPEAK IS ROSEANNE.

LAURA, I I'M GIVING MR. CRAWFORD MY TIME.

DO YOU YOUR TIME THIS? YES JUDGE, YOU MAY PROCEED 53 MINUTES.

YOU'RE NOT VERY UPSET MR. COMMISSION THAT I HAVE TO SIT HERE AS A TAXPAYER.

I WANT A BUSINESS AS WELL.

I'M MISSING OUT TODAY.

SEE, YOU'RE COSTING ME MONEY TODAY 'CAUSE I HAVE TO COME DOWN HERE AND GO THROUGH THIS AGAIN.

I ASKED THIS FOR BE THOROUGH AGENDA.

THERE ARE A LOT MORE QUESTIONS ON AS FAR AS UH, UH, CONFLICT OF INTEREST, , ALL THIS STUFF.

YOU WOULD THINK THAT YOU WOULD PUT THAT ON THE AGENDA, BUT YOU DID NOT.

YOU REFERRED ME.

I KNOW YOU, YOU REFERRED ME TO THE DA'S OFFICE, BUT I I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND BUT I I HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION THAT I WAS GOING THAT WAS GONNA BE ON THE PART OF THAT AGENDA.

IF THE COUNTY COMMISSION SEX ON A CITY'S TAX INFRASTRUCTURE BOARD IS ALSO A REPRESENTING THE COUNTY ON A CERTAIN ISSUE AND AS A COMMISSIONER VOTED TO APPROVE A CERTAIN ISSUE AND THEN HE'S ABLE TO GET A LUCRATIVE CONTRACT FROM A SUB ON THIS PROJECT THAT THERE'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO BE A CONFLICT OF INTEREST AND IT CAN DISCLOSURE FORM BE FILED FOR THE COUNTY AND POST IT BECAUSE THAT'S ANOTHER ISSUE I HAVE, BUT I WANT, I DON'T NEED, I NEED TO KNOW THAT.

BUT MY BIGGEST THING IS IS I I'LL, I WANT TO GET A RESOLUTION TO CRES ON PROBLEM DAMAGING MY PROBLEM.

SOMEBODY TO SHOW ME WHO IS LIABLE IF YOUR EMPLOYEE OR YOU WERE TO GOT HURT ON, ON MY PROPERTY.

I WANT TO SEE A CONTRACT.

SOMETHING STATING IS ALLOWING YOU TO DO THIS.

NOT THIS, THIS DOESN'T WORK.

THAT DOESN'T WORK.

NONE OF THAT WORKS BECAUSE IT DOESN'T SAY ON THAT DATE THAT JIMMY OR HIS EMPLOYEE OR THE COMMISSIONERS CAN GO ON MY PRIVATE PROPERTY.

AND THE MAYOR OF THAT CITY WHO YOU REFERRED ME TO, HIS ARE HIS WORDS WERE VERY NICE OLDER GENTLEMAN, HAVE A LOT OF RESPECT FOR HIM.

HE SAID JIMMY JOE KNOWS BETTER THAN THIS.

HE SAID BE OUT HERE.

I'M GONNA HAVE A CALL FOR ME, MR.

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OKAY, I'M SORRY.

OKAY.

UH, THE NEXT PERSON ON THE AGENDA IS TERRY CROW.

IS MR. CROW HERE? YES.

CROW TIME.

YOU HAVE YOUR TIME.

YOU HAVE YOUR TIME TO MR. CRAWFORD, YOU MAY PROCEED.

YOU APPRECIATE YES.

MY I HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE RESTROOM COMMITTEE.

ANYBODY SITTING UP HERE IS, UH, PAPERWORK THAT MR. ZA EMAILED.

IS THIS TYPICAL? I MEAN IS THIS TYPICAL? I ANY QUESTION MARKS I WANT BUSINESS AS WELL.

START DATE QUESTION MARKS QUESTION, UH, IS THAT TYPICAL? WE BOARD THIS A LITTLE BIT BETTER.

IT CAN OPEN A DOOR AND THE NEXT QUESTION IS IF YOU ALLOW TO TRY TO USE PAPERWORK, A WAY TO DO WHAT HE WANTS TO DO AND THEN HE WANTS TO DO IT.

IF THAT'S THE CASE, I DON'T EVEN COME BACK.

WHAT'S A PROBLEM WITH SOMETHING'S GOTTA BE DONE.

YOU CAN'T GO AROUND.

I GUESS NEXT THING SHERIFF HAD ON, I DUNNO ALL RESPECT, JUDGE.

I MEAN WE'RE SITTING IN A COURTROOM.

I DON'T, WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, I DON'T THINK PEOPLE WOULD GO FOR IT.

IF THE DA HAD, THE JUDGE HAD ON, IF THE PROSECUTING ATTORNEY FOR A JUDGE IS HAD, I DON'T THINK THAT WOULD WORK.

SO AS COMMISSIONER, YOU'RE WALKING AROUND, YOU'RE CALLING THE SHOTS AS YOU SEE, THAT'S HOW I FEEL.

AND BEFORE MY THREE MINUTES ARE UP, I KNOW HE'S GONNA HAVE, UH, I GUESS THREE MINUTES TO COME BACK, BUT I WON'T SAY A FEW MINUTES.

SO I CAN SAY SOMETHING BACK AGAIN.

WHEN HE DOES YOU HAVE ONE MINUTE.

WELL, LET'S SAY IT, I NORMALLY DO NOT ALLOW THAT, SO I WOULD PREFER TO GO AHEAD AND SO I GOT ANY TIME TO SAY ANYTHING BACK AFTERWARDS? NO.