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UH, I KNOW THE, UH, DISTRICT ATTORNEY NEEDS TO GO TO ANOTHER MEETING, I THINK HERE MOMENTARILY.
AND SO, UH, I THINK ONE, NO JUDGE, I'VE BEEN HERE.
I'M HERE FOR A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE YOU'RE GONNA GO EXECUTIVE.
I NEED TO CONDUCT, YEAH, A COUPLE OTHER ITEMS BEFORE WE GO EXECUTIVE.
UH, THE FIRST ONE WOULD BE ITEM NUMBER NINE TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER TERMINATING A COUNTY CONTRACT WITH GUARDIAN LARRY AMP FINES AND FEES FOR JUSTICE OF PRECINCT AND PRECINCT FOUR.
I BELIEVE JUDGE ADAMS IS HERE.
THIS BELIEVE WE ALSO HAVE REPRESENTATIVE FROM
UH, MIKE AND I HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS MOVE FOR SEVERAL MONTHS.
WE JUST DIDN'T WAKE UP ONE MORNING, SAID, OH, IT'S CHANGE.
BUT WE DIDN'T, UH, DISCUSS IT IT EVER SINCE Y APPROVED CONTRACT WITH PURDUE PRECINCT ONE TO TWO, AND WE DIDN'T HAVE NOTHING AGAINST LINEBERGER THAT WHATSOEVER JEFF, UH, WAIVE ANYBODY THERE.
WE JUST WEREN TRYING TO GET ALL TOGETHER AS ONE GROUP AND OUR COLLECTION AGENCY AND WE DECIDED TO GO WITH PURDUE ALSO, UH, I'VE BEEN TALKING WITH THE COUNTY ATTORNEY, REBECCA, TO GET THE CONTRACT UP, UH, GET A CONTRACT FROM PURDUE AND, UH, GET A LETTER, UH, TO BE SENT TO LINEBERGER HOPING THEY'LL LET US ON A 30 DAY HALF THOUSAND CONTRACT.
I THINK NORMALLY REBECCA SAID THEY'RE 60, BUT WE WOULD LIKE 30 DAYS IF ALL POSSIBLE.
BUT AGAIN, WE HAVE NOTHING AGAINST THIS GREAT COMPANY.
WE'VE BEEN WITH THEM EVER SINCE I'VE BEEN OFFICE.
WE'RE JUST TRYING TO GET ONE AND TWO ALL ONE ONE.
THAT'S WHAT I'M ASKING Y'ALL TO DO IS TO TERMINATE THE CONTRACT, EITHER A NEW CONTRACT, ANYBODY HAVE ANY JUDGE ADAM BEFORE HE SITS DOWN.
UH, NEXT WOULD BE, UH, WADE JIM, WHO IS REPRESENTATIVE OF ER FIRM AND, UH, HEARD THE COMMENTS.
AND SO FIRST START OFF BY SAYING THAT IT'S BEEN OUR HONOR PRIVILEGE TO REPRESENT COUNTY NOT ONLY IN THE REALM OF THE DELINQUENT, BUT ALSO PROPERTY TAXES AS WELL, HAVE THAT WORK.
UM, I THINK THERE'S A COUPLE THINGS THAT I WOULD LIKE CONSIDER BEFORE VOTING ON THIS ISSUE FIRST.
UM, WHEN THREE OR FOUR YEARS AGO, THIS CONTRACT CAME UP FOR A BIT AND THE SUBMISSIONS WERE MADE AND THERE WAS QUITE AN EXTENSIVE PROCESS.
I THINK IT TOOK ABOUT SIX MONTHS, PRETTY MUCH TIME.
THERE WAS A COMMITTEE, COMMITTEE APPOINTED AND PRESENTATIONS GIVEN ALL THE DATA WITH RESPECT TO PAST PERFORMANCE, NOT ONLY COUNTY, BUT COMPARATIVE NUMBERS BETWEEN THE FIRMS AND OTHER COUNTIES.
AND PURDUE AND AMP FIRM THAT I WORKED WITH AS WELL AS A COUPLE OF OTHER FIRMS, MADE SUBMISSIONS AFTER THAT LENGTHY PROCESS, WHICH I RECALL WAS QUITE PAINFUL FOR EVERYONE INVOLVED.
UM, THE, THE COMMITTEE, I BELIEVE RECOMMENDED TO KEEP ALL PRECINCTS WITH KLE.
UH, AT THAT TIME AGREEMENT WAS MADE THAT IT MIGHT BE MORE BENEFICIAL IN TERMS OF REVENUE TO HAVE THE INCREASING SPLIT SO THAT UH, THERE MIGHT BE SOME COMPETITION BETWEEN THE FIRMS MAYBE PROMOTE REVENUES ANYWAY.
AND SO IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT WAS THE REASON THAT WE ENDED UP SPLITTING THE FIRST PLACE.
UH, BUT NOW FAST FORWARD HERE WE ARE, UM, I DON'T KNOW THAT ANY PROCUREMENT PROCESS HAS BEEN DONE AND UNDERSTANDING THIS IS A PROFESSIONAL SERVICES CONTRACT, SO IT'S NOT REQUIRED TO GO UP BID IN THE WAY THAT OTHER TYPES OF WORK THAT COUNTY WOULD.
UH, BUT IN LIGHT OF THE FACT THAT THIS WAS DONE VERY FAIRLY RECENTLY AND, UH, AND THAT ALL OF THE DATA WAS COLLECTED AND EXAMINED, UM, I THINK, YOU KNOW, WE, WE WOULD LIKE TO THE OPPORTUNITY.
UM, I KNOW THAT THAT JUDGE ADAMS INDICATED THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN DISCUSSED FOR A WHILE, BUT AS FAR AS WE WERE, WE KNEW EVERYTHING.
WE WERE DOING A GREAT JOB OF THE COUNTY, EVERYTHING WAS GOING FINE.
THE FIRST WE HEARD OF THIS WAS LAST WEEK WHEN IT SHOWED UP ON AGENDA.
SO, UM, I THINK WHAT WE WOULD WOULD REQUEST IS, UH, THAT THE COMMISSIONERS TABLE THIS ISSUE IS IF WE'RE GOING TO, TO COMPETE OR WE'RE GOING TO COMPARE, LET'S COMPARE APPLES VERSUS APPLES.
MAKE SURE THAT ALL THE DATA DIMENSIONS AND THAT WE CAN COMPARE NUMBERS.
BECAUSE AT THE END OF THE DAY, THE NAME OF THE GAME FOR THE COURTS AS WELL AS THIS COURT IS, IS IT GOING TO INCREASE REVENUE IN FOR COUNTY? AND I FEEL LIKE THE NUMBERS THAT WE'VE BEEN PROVIDING FOR THE COUNTY SUPPORT REMAINING WITH
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THAT ONCE, YOU KNOW, THERE'S SOME PROBLEMS WITH REGARD TO COMPARING THE SAME DATA BECAUSE WITH RESPECTED SOME PRECINCTS AND SO FORTH.SO I THINK IN ALL FAIRNESS AND, AND, AND NOT JUST IN FAIRNESS TO THE FIRMS INVOLVED, BUT ALSO AS TAXPAYER, THAT'S IN FAIRNESS TO THE TAXPAYERS, THE COURT, UH, WOULD REQUEST THE COURT TABLE THIS HAVE A COUPLE OF WEEKS OR LONGER, MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN PROVIDE THE COURT WITH DATA SO THAT THE DECISION CAN BE MADE WITH REGARD TO NOT POLITICS, NOT A QUESTION THAT WHO LIKE TO DO BETTER, BUT A QUESTION OF WHO'S GONNA BE MOST EFFECTIVE AT GENERATING MORE REVENUE FOR THE COUNTY.
AND I BELIEVE THAT THE, ONCE THEY SEE THE NUMBER KEEPING THE CONTRACT.
UM, IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS, I DON'T HAVE ALL THE, THE COURTS HAS ANY QUESTIONS.
ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? SHOULD NO, I'D LIKE JUDGE OR JUDGE ADAM, I RESPOND.
IT IS OUR OFFICES TO DO THIS, UH, QUESTION.
FINE AND FEES AND EVERYTHING AND IT'S NOT JUST, I DON'T DO THEM, BUT THIS, THIS IS GONNA LAY YOU ALONG WITH TWO OTHER LADIES IN THE OFFICE, WORK WITH HIM EVERY DAY AND DO ALL THE DOCUMENTATION.
UH, AGAIN, I TEXTED JEFF BROWN, UH, LAST WEEK.
I TALKED TO MIKE ABOUT THIS AND WE WANT TO GET FORWARD, GET MOVING WITH A NEW CONTRACT AND PUBLIC WITH IT AND PRODUCE ASSISTANCE TO TRANSITIONAL WILL BE EASY.
WE DON'T WANT THAT TO MAKE IT MORE DIFFICULT, ESPECIALLY IN COLLECTIONS, BUT WE WOULD LIKE TO MOVE FORWARD AND THIS IS OUR DECISION TO CHANGE CUSTODY.
AND LIKE I SAID, I HAVE ALL DUE RESPECT THAT JEFF LINE.
WE'RE JUST TRYING TO IT PRECINCT.
UH, BEFORE YOU SIT DOWN, I ASK GEORGE AS WELL, IT, HAS THERE BEEN SOME SORT OF COMMUNICATION ISSUE WITH, UH, THE OTHER FIRM? UH, THAT UH, WITH, AND I'M NOT SURE GEORGE, COME ON UP.
I WAS, I WAS INFORMED LAST WEEK THAT THERE'S BEEN SOME SORT OF DATA COMMUNICATION ISSUE WITH WHAT WAS GOING IN FROM THE OTHER FIRM.
GEORGE, CAN YOU CLARIFY THAT? UH, FIRST OF ALL, I MET WITH THE JUDGE AND I SAID WHAT THE JUDGE WANTS US TO DO, AND YOU GUYS KNOW OF IT, OUR JOB IS TO DO OUR LEVEL BEST TO BE SUCCESSFUL, RIGHT? AS FAR AS THE PROJECT, WE HAVE NO KNOWLEDGE OF IT.
WE HAVE NO NUMBERS, NO ANALYTICS.
I'M SURE THEY'VE DONE THE DUE DILIGENCE.
I'M SURE THEY'RE MAKING THE RIGHT DECISION, BUT I DUNNO WHAT DO OUR JOB IS TO SUPPORT WHAT THEY, WHAT THEY DO.
TO YOUR QUESTION, YEAH, THERE WAS AN ISSUE WITH DATA.
SO AS THE FIRST TWO SIGNED ON, WE'RE TRYING TO WORK THAT OUT AT THIS MOMENT, BUT I'D RATHER HAVE TO THAT
WOULD NOT HAVE SKEWED THE NUMBERS.
SO THE ONLY THING IT WOULD DO IS, UM, DAN MENTIONED, UH, WHEN I MET WITH DAN THAT HE WAS NOT ABLE TO COLLECT FOR PRECINCT ONE GIVES TO ME ERROR AND WE'RE WORKING THROUGH THAT NOW.
UH, BUT THE FACTS ARE, WE DON'T, I HAVE NO INFORMATION ON COLLECTION RATES SUCCESS.
WE'LL DO WHAT WE CAN DO WITH IT.
ALRIGHT, JUDGE, YOU'RE, YOU'RE GOOD, BUT YOU'RE GOOD.
BUT YOU BELIEVE THAT YOUR COLLECTION MADE AND YOU PROCESS WORKING WITH, I I TRULY BELIEVE THAT.
AGAIN, IT MIGHT BE SOME IN THE VERY BEGINNING, BUT I IT IS GREAT AT WHAT THEY DO AND THEY REALLY CAN GET THIS FIXED REALLY QUICK.
AGAIN, WHEN THEY WORK WITH THE COMPANIES LIKE PURDUE, EVERYONE HERE FROM PURDUE.
AND IF ALL THE DATA IS COLLECTED, IT SHOULD BE A SMOOTH TRANSITION.
UNLIKE WHEN WE DID, AS WADE WAS TALKING ABOUT, THAT WAS A BIG HEADACHE, WAS A BIG HEADACHE.
AND IT WASN'T JUST ME, IT WAS THE LADIES I WORKED WITH.
VERY TIME CONSUMING AND WE TO DO SOMETHING SIMPLER AND IT ALL.
SO COURT APPROVED THIS IN ESSENCE FOR DUE MOVE ALL OF THE TAX COLLECTIONS TO NOT TAX COLLECTIONS WITH ALL THE FINES AND FEES TO ONE FIRM.
AND THE COLLECTION WOULD WITH THE OTHER TAX COLLECTIONS.
OBJECTIONS, UH, ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANYTHING UH, THAT'D LIKE TO DISCUSS? COMMISSIONER? I WANNA RESPECT THE JUDGE WISHES.
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ALRIGHT, WE HAVE A MOTION FROM, UH, COMMISSIONER LIK WE TERMINATE THE CONTRACT WITHDO I HAVE A SECOND? HAVE A SECOND.
FROM DO WE HAVE FURTHER DISCUSSION? JACK, DO YOU HAVE SOMETHING? I'M SORRY.
I'D LIKE LAST SINCE HE PROCUREMENT.
UH, I'D LIKE TO HAVE ABOUT THREE OR FOUR YEARS AGO AND THEN TWO CONTRACTS.
AND I THINK IN ALL FAIRNESS, UH, WHEN WE DID THAT, I NORMALLY WE HAVE A CONTRACT THAT YOU'RE NOT HAPPY THERE.
DISCUSSION, CALL FOLKS IN AND DISCUSS THAT OLD DAYS.
TALK ABOUT AND, UH, WISH IF THERE WAS A PROBLEM AGAIN, THERE IS NO PROBLEM WITH RAD, UH, BUT DIDN'T MEAN TO INTERRUPT THERE, BUT WE, THE GOAL, WE HAD ONE COME DO IT ALL NOW ONE GET ONE, COME DO IT ALL AGAIN.
WE HAD THAT BEFORE AND WE SPLIT UP TO, TO GET COMPETITION AND THAT.
OKAY, NOW ONE GOAL, JACK IS THE SAME THING.
SAME GOAL, SAME THING TO COLLECT.
WE'RE TRYING TO ONE ALL ONE TIME YOUR OPINION.
ANYTHING? NO, WE HAVE A SECOND.
STILL THINK THERE MAY BEEN SOME ISSUES WITH THE, UH, DATA THAT WAS, UH, AT ONE TIME.
UH, BUT THAT'S BEYOND MY KNOWLEDGE ABOUT THAT.
ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANYTHING TO, OKAY.
UH, ALL IN PAPER OF, UH, CANCELING THE CONTRACT WITH LAND WATERER, UH, BLAIR, IF YOU WOULD, UH, RAISE YOUR HAND AND THOSE AGAINST, UH, HARRY.
AND SO WE'LL GO WITHOUT NUMBER 10 AND THAT IS TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ENTERING THE CON COUNTY CONTRACT PURVIEW FOR ELECTION JUSTICE PRECINCT.
JOHNNY, DO YOU WANT TO HANG ON JUST A SECOND WHILE WE'RE, WHILE WE'RE MAYBE NEED TO GET TO COURT, I BELIEVE MR. ROMO IS HERE THIS MORNING.
UH, WOULD YOU LIKE TO COME UP AND INTRODUCE HIM TO COURT? ROMO, UH, DON'T WANT TO DRAG THIS OUT, BUT IT WOULD BE NICE IF HAVE A FEW WORDS FROM, UH, THE FIRM THAT WILL NOW BE COLLECTING ALL OF OUR THIS IS UH, JIM, THIS IS DAN ROMEO.
HE'S WITH, UH, PURDUE, BRANDON FISHER
AND UH, HE'S WITH 3 6 2 AT THIS TIME AND THIS IS THE COMPANY WE'RE TRYING TO WITH, SIX FOUR.
UM, AGAIN, UH, MY NAME IS DAN ROMO AND UM, I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU GUYS HAVE REGARDING, UM, OUR, OUR COLLECTION EFFORTS OR
UM, JUST TO KIND OF CLARIFY A LITTLE BIT, UM, AS FAR AS THE DATA OR SUBMISSIONS DATA WE HAVE COLLECTED FOR BOTH PRECINCT AND TWO, WE ARE, UM, YOU KNOW, WORKING WITH THAT AND AS GEORGE HAD MENTIONED, THERE'S NOT GONNA INVESTIGATING THE DATA PRECINCT THREE OR FOUR, THAT'S NOT A PROBLEM AT ALL.
WE'RE VERY SOPHISTICATED, OUR ABILITY TO BE ABLE TO WORK THE SOFTWARE.
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THAT HAVE ANY PROBLEMS IN THERE.AND AGAIN, IT IS OUR GOAL TO INCREASE THE COLLECTIONS.
THAT'S THE WHOLE REASON WHY PRECINCT THREE AND FOUR, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'RE LOOKING AT US, IS TRYING TO INCREASE, TRYING TO DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT, TRYING TO SHAKE THE STREET A LITTLE BIT AND INCREASE REVENUES SO WE CAN, UH, TRY TO COLLECT MORE MONEY FOR CAN.
UM, AT SOME POINT, UM, YOU KNOW, WE, WE CAN BE EVALUATED.
I I I FEEL FAIRLY CONFIDENT AND WE'LL BE ABLE TO COME BACK TO Y'ALL AND BE ABLE TO SHOW OUR NUMBERS, ENSURE THAT WE HAVE INCREASED THE COLLECTIONS COURSE.
OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE SOMEBODY THAT'S BEEN IN THERE FOR A WHILE AND THE NEW KID ON THE BLOCK IS GONNA TAKE US SOME TIME.
BUT, UH, WE'LL ASSURED THAT WE'LL BE ABLE TO COME HERE, GONNA BE FULLY ACCOUNTABLE TO BE ABLE TO SHOW YOU GENTLEMEN OUR NUMBERS AND HOW WELL WE'RE DOING FOR THE COURTS, UM, AND SHOW YOU THAT YOU GUYS DOING A GOOD JOB.
THAT WAS GONNA BE MY QUESTION.
WHAT KIND OF REPORT FIRM WOULD COME IN THREE MONTHS OR SO, ONIONS COMPARED TO THE PREVIOUS YEAR? UH, NOW WAS THAT FOR PROPERTY TAX OR WAS THAT FOR THE, JUST JUST THE FINES FEES? I'M CORRECT ON THAT.
YES, JUDGE, EVEN THE PRECINCTS THAT WE DIDN'T REPRESENT RIGHT, IS, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT YOUR FIRM WOULD BE ABLE TO PROVIDE WITH US? AND I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THAT WRITTEN INTO THE CONTRACT.
UH, UH, REBECCA, IF WE COULD DO THAT, THAT WE WOULD GET A QUARTERLY REPORT AS PREPARED FOR PRIOR YEAR.
ALL WE CAN PROVIDE QUARTERLY REPORTS TO, TO THE COURT.
WE ALSO PROVIDE MONTHLY REPORTS TO COURT AS WELL.
SO THEY'RE, THEY'RE GETTING REPORTING ON A MONTHLY BASIS AS WELL.
SO IF ANYBODY EVER HAS ANY QUESTIONS THEN ON A MONTHLY BASIS AND VERIFY WHAT OUR EFFORTS ARE AND WE, THAN GO AHEAD AND PROVIDE QUARTERLY REPORTS TO GOOD TO HAVE.
WE ALWAYS SEND REPORT TO AUDITOR'S OFFICE SO WE CAN ACTUALLY WRITE THE CHECKS.
WORK WITH THE DA'S OFFICE, GETTING THAT THE CONTRACT IF IT'S NOT ALREADY.
WE ALWAYS HAVE CHECKS AND BALANCES WHENEVER WE RESEND THE REPORT.
WE'RE ALWAYS MAKING SURE THAT THE REPORT ARE, ARE LINING UP IS WHAT THE AUDITOR'S OFFICE HAVE AND ALL THAT.
SO STANDARD PROTOCOL FOR US TO BE SENDING THAT INFORMATION.
WELL GLAD TO INCLUDE THAT IN THE PACKAGE.
UM, IT WON'T HAVE PERCENTAGES AND STUFF OF THAT NATURE.
SO IF YOU WANT US TO GO AHEAD AND PROVIDE A PERFORMANCE REPORT CASES SO YOU CAN HAVE NUMBERS, NUMBERS, SHOW YOU SOME NUMBERS AS WELL.
ALRIGHT, THERE ANYBODY ELSE? ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? NO, JUST A QUICK POINT.
UM, BECAUSE THE OTHER TWO PRECINCTS ARE ALSO USING PURDUE.
WOULD, THE COURT WOULD LIKE TO COMBINE CONTRACTS AND DO ONE FOR ALL FOUR AND THEN YOU COULD ADD THE MONTHLY REPORT REQUIREMENT FOR ALL FOUR PRECINCTS.
SO THAT CO MEAN THE WHOLE POINT WAS TO HAVE SOME, SOME CONTINUITY AND SO IF IT'S JUST EASIER THAT WAY WE'RE NOT STRUGGLING WITH, WITH TWO, TWO DIFFERENT CONTRACTS.
IF IT'S RICHES TO THE COUNTY CONTRACT, START FRESH.
HAVE THOSE PROVISIONS SET FORTH IN THERE? ANYBODY YOU MADE A MOTION SECOND BEFORE WE HAVE SOMEONE WHO, A MOTION, NOT I PLAN.
MOTION TO, UH, ENTER INTO A CONTRACT WITH PURDUE BRANDON FIELD AND COLLINS.
UH, SUBSTITUTE THE DISCUSSION WE'VE HAD HERE IN COURT TODAY.
SECOND COMMISSIONER ALLEN SECOND, THIS MOTION.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR.
I'LL ASK YOU TO RAISE YOUR HAND IF YOU IN FAVOR, UH, SHOWING YOU UNANIM ALL INCLUDING THE, UH, JUDGE AS WELL.
SO LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU.
WE WILL, UH, NOW, UH, ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO EXIT INTO SESSION.
WE ACTUALLY HAVE A REPORT ITEM THAT WE
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WILL BE, UH, DISCUSSING IN EXECUTIVE SESSION.UH, THE FIRST ONE, UH, THAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO, AND THIS IS AT THE REQUEST OF, UH, JUDGE WHITE, DOESN'T MATTER.
I'M HERE FOR THE WHOLE OKAY, SO YOU'RE, YOU'RE GOOD TO GO.
OKAY, WELL, LET'S GO AHEAD AND, UH, I'LL HAVE A MOTION, SOMEONE TO GO INTO THE CLOSED SESSION AND MR. ALLEN.
ALL IN FAVOR? SO, SHERIFF, CAN YOU MAKE SURE THAT THE, THE KITCHEN AREA IS CLEAR.