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WE DON'T EVEN

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REALLY HAVE DAN B ON CONTRACT YET BECAUSE WE'RE STILL NEGOTIATING THE, UH, COSTS AND THE FEES AND THE SCOPE S WITH, UH, .

BUT INITIALLY WE THOUGHT THE PROJECT WAS GONNA BE ABOUT 6.87 MILLION BUCKS.

BUT WHEN YOU'RE ASKING FOR MONEY, YOU ALWAYS ASK FOR MORE, RIGHT? SO, UH, IN THE PROP ONE, PHASE TWO LISTING THAT RTC APPROVED, I THINK EITHER SEPTEMBER THIS YEAR OR OCTOBER, WE GOT THIS PROJECT CONCLUDED IN THE, UH, PROP ONE FUNDING AT $9.2 MILLION.

AND I THINK IT WAS, WE'RE LOOKING AT A SOUTHBOUND FRONTAGE ROAD AND WE'RE BRINGING 1 48 UP FROM THE NORTH.

WHAT WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO DO IS TIE 1 48 INTO 1 75 IS A GREAT SEPARATION.

SO, UH, YOU SHOULD WORK.

BUT WHAT COULD HAVE, RIGHT, SO THAT'S THE PROJECT THAT WE HAVE YOU START THE ENGINEERING ON.

WE ALREADY GOT THE FUNDING.

SO HERE'S THE POINT I WANNA MAKE YOU, YOU START THE ENGINEERING IF YOU DON'T HAVE THE MONEY, BECAUSE RIGHT NOW WE'VE GOT 9.2 MILLION AND WE CAN'T SPEND ANY OF IT BECAUSE WE'RE NOT ENVIRONMENTALLY CLEARED, WE DON'T HAVE DONE RIGHT.

THERE'S A BUNCH OF STUFF THAT HAS TO BE DONE AND WE HAVE TO MEET THAT DEADLINE.

SO WE JUST START AND THE MONEY COMES LATER.

AND WITH PROP SEVEN BEING PASSED, ALL OF THE SPACE BASED ENGINEERING IS PRETTY SMART BECAUSE I JUST WENT TO THE THING LAST WEEK WHERE THEY'RE PLANNING ON REALLY MOVING FAST ON PROP 7, 1 48, JOHN, BACK ON, UH, BACK ON 1 7 5 ROAD.

MM-HMM .

WHAT, WHAT'S YOUR BEST YES, PROJECT? I HATE THAT QUESTION.

UM, WELL THE MONEY IS IN, UH, 2019, BUT IT CAN BE MOVED UP IF THE PROJECT GETS READY.

SO WE'RE NO MORE ONCE WE GET ON ON CONTRACT AND THEY GIVE US AN IDEA, BUT WE'RE SHOOTING FOR BEFORE THAT TIME BECAUSE HAVE EXPIRATION THAT YOU HAVE TO GET IT DONE BY THEN.

YES.

AND THAT'S FY 19, WHICH IS PARTIAL CALENDAR, WHICH ISN'T THAT FAR AWAY.

REMEMBER, I, THERE'S PEOPLE YEARS AND HERE, SO THAT'S NOT VERY FAR AWAY.

SO WE TALKED ABOUT, NO, IT IS 1 48 BYPASS HAS, THIS IS A PROJECT THAT HALF HAS.

UM, AND WE PUT THEM ON CONTRACT IN AUGUST OF THIS YEAR AND WE HAD A LOT OF MEETINGS WITH STAKEHOLDERS.

WE JUST HAD TO, OH FREQUENTLY WITH, UH, NOVEMBER 2ND TO GIVE THEM A PRESENTATION.

PART OF WHAT WE'RE DOING ON EIGHT BYPASS, ALSO UHS GOING A LITTLE FURTHER NORTH.

SHE SAID JUST A GENERIC ALIGNMENT SO WE KNOW WHERE THE BEST PLACE IS TO HIT THAT 1 7, 5 AREA GRAY.

SO ADAM IS DOING A LITTLE BIT ADDITIONAL WORK OUTSIDE OF HER SCOPE TO SET THE BEST ALIGNMENT NORTH SO WE CAN HIT THE, UH, 1 75 WITH THE BEST LOCATION AND THEN THEY'RE MOVING FORWARD.

AND EVERYBODY AT CRANDALL WAS VERY, VERY, VERY HAPPY WITH EVERYTHING THAT THE, WE SHOWED ONE QUESTION, JOHN, UH, I THE TOP, WHICH HAD BEEN PREVIOUS.

IT ALSO HELPS US JUMP START PROJECTS AND WITH THIS, IT'S REALLY GONNA HELP US START OUR PROJECTS SINCE WE GOT ENGINEERING GOING PROJECTS.

ABSOLUTELY.

AND, AND I MET LAST WEEK AND THERE'S GONNA BE A PARADIGM SHIFT A LITTLE BIT.

THEY WANT TO START, THEY INSTEAD CALL PROJECTS FOR CERTAIN TYPES OF PROGRAMS. THEY WANT WHAT THEY CALL, THEY WANT FUND THE PLAN.

THAT'S THEIR NEW MODEL FUND THE PLAN, THE PLAN, THE PLAN.

WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? RIGHT NOW WE'RE WORKING ON THE 2040 MOBILITY PLAN, AND WHAT THEY WANT TO DO IS WHEN THEY HAVE MONEY FROM PROP SEVEN, THEY WANT TO GO INTO THEIR PLAN, FIND PROJECTS THAT WE AT AND ELECTRIC.

SO PART OF THE WAY YOU GET A PROJECT IN A PLAN IS TO THE SHOWING SERIOUS ABOUT IT.

AND WE'RE ALREADY CO RELATED TO MAKING SURE THAT THESE PROJECTS ARE IN PLAN THE WAY WE NEEDED TO BE.

SO WHEN PROP SEVEN DOES GO DOWN, THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN PROP SEVEN AND PROP ONE, PROP ONE FLUCTUATES, DEPENDING UPON THE, THE GAS OIL AND GAS PROP SEVEN IS, IS CLOSE TO A SUSTAINABLE REVENUE STREAM THAT CAN BE BANKED AS IS THE GAS TAX IS BECAUSE IT'S, IT'S,

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IT'S A STEADY REVENUE STREAM.

SALES TAX.

THEY PROJECT THAT FOR YEARS AND THEY TAX DOES DURING CERTAIN TYPE OF ECONOMY.

SO PROP SEVEN IS REAL MONEY, REAL SUSTAINABLE, AND MORE IMPORTANTLY, BANKABLE IN THE OUT HERE.

SO YOU CAN START DOING PLANNING A LOT BETTER, WHICH IS WHY THEY WANT START PUTTING MUCH PROJECTS IN THE PLAN.

SO THE FACT THAT WE'RE STARTING THE FACT THAT THE COGNOS, WE'VE GOT A BOND PACKAGE AND WE'RE DOING OUR PART TO CARRY OUR WATER, PUTS US, UH, FURTHER AHEAD OF ALL THOSE OTHER COUNTIES IN OUR BUSINESS.

OKAY, FOR, UM, 1 48, THIS IS FROM UH, 13 NINE TO 39 4.

THIS IS UH, BASICALLY A START PROJECT.

WE'RE COMING IN AND REDO THE SUB DRIVING ONE 12 FOOT MAG, THREE FOOT SHOULDERS.

THIS IS ANOTHER ONE OF THOSE, UH, UH, FAITH-BASED ENGINEERING PROGRAMS. YOU GOT ABOUT THREE AND A HALF MILLION BUCKS IN THE PROJECT.

WE THINK RIGHT NOW IT'S SOMEWHERE AROUND, UH, 12 MILLION.

WE GOT, UM, CONTRACT IN SEPTEMBER AND THEY'RE SIMPLY WORKING THE, UH, SURVEYING, POURING AND ALL THE PRELIMINARY WORK ENGINEERING ON IT'S FORWARD.

ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT ONE? ALRIGHT, THIS WAS THE ONE YOU DID TODAY WITH LTRA ON THE 34 MAIN LANES AND THE INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENTS.

SO WE'VE ALREADY GOT, UH, SOME FUNDING IDENTIFIED, UH, USING UH, FUNDS FOR SOME OF THE BRIDGES AND WE'VE GOTTEN A SIMILAR, SIMILAR TYPE OF PROJECT IN ROCKWELL COUNTY WHERE WE REDO SIX SIX AND TEX THEN HAD MONEY TO REHAB THE PAVEMENT THAT THEY DIDN'T HAVE ROAD MONEY FOR THE INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENT.

SO THE COUNTY AGREED TO DO THE INTERSECTIONS AND THE STATE AGREED TO DO THE ROAD AND WE COMBINED THEM INTO ONE JOB AND I THINK IT LETS, UH, MAY NEXT YEAR.

AND SO T SAYING WE'VE GOT RENTS THAT MONEY, SO WE'LL PICK UP FIVE OF THE, THE BRIDGE CROSSINGS AND THEN OUR ENGINEERING WILL PICK UP CONNECTIVITY BETWEEN THOSE AND MOVE FROM THERE.

THE WAY PARTNER IS.

ALRIGHT, UH, YOU SAW STAN LIN IN THE BACK.

HIS FIRM IS UH, NICHOLS AND THEY'RE DOING THE UH, US A REGIONAL PLAN STUDY AND I'M CONFIDENT THAT Y'ALL HAD A LOT OF INTERACTION WITH THEM BECAUSE ON, SO I REALLY NEED TO TELL YOU WHAT'S GOING ON THERE OTHER THAN WE'RE TOWARDS THE END OF THE, UH, PROCESS AND THAT FREE NICHOLS IS REVISING DIFFERENT CONCEPTS FOR THE CORRIDOR AND THAT'S BASED ON SIGNIFICANT INPUT FROM STAKEHOLDERS IN THE COURT, BOTH PUBLIC AND PRIVATE.

YOU'RE DOING A GOOD JOB.

ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT? SAME ON THE THOROUGH FAIR PLAN.

NICHOLAS IS DOING THAT, UH, AND THEY'RE VERY THOROUGH.

I WILL TELL YOU JUST OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, NICKLES ARE DOING ARE DOING PLANS FOR COUNTY COTTON COUNTY ROCKWELL COUNTY.

SO WHEN THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT REGIONAL CONNECTIVITY, THEY KNOW ABOUT REGIONAL CONNECTIVITY.

SO WHATEVER THEY'RE TELLING YOU TO DO ON THAT 34 BYPASS, THIS IS IN THE CITY OF COFFIN IN A LOCAL, IT WAS UH, EXECUTED BACK IN MARCH.

UH, THEY'RE PROCESSING THIS PROJECT AND THEY ARE SAYS THEY'RE 30 73% COMPLETE.

WHAT WE DO IS, UH, THIS IS A REIMBURSEMENT CONTRACT.

SO, UH, CONFLICT PAY WORK SEND INVOICE TO US PROPERLY CONSISTENT WITH INTERLOCAL.

WE RECOMMEND APPROVAL WE SEND TO THE AUDITOR AND I THINK THAT'S HOW IT WORKS.

I'M NOT 50, IT WAS PART OF THAT, UH, MARCH, 2015 CONTRACT WITH KAUFMAN.

AGAIN.

THEY WERE DOING, UH, KAUFMAN'S DOING THE ENGINEERING WORK.

UM, IT HAD A LITTLE BIT OF A HICCUP AT UH, 2034 AND COUNTY ROAD 1 51, BUT THAT'S BEEN RESOLVED.

UH, AND THEY'RE CURRENTLY WORKING ON ACQUISITION DOCUMENTS AND UH, AS THEY PROCESS IT, WE'LL UPDATE THE REPORT AND THE CITY OF S PROJECT MANAGER, FOR LACK OF A BETTER WORD ON THE JOB.

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OKAY, SO SPUR 57 AND 1 48 NORTH, UH, 1641.

ADVANCED PLANNING ALL KIND OF FIT INTO A SAME GENRE THAT WE'LL TALK ABOUT, I'M ASSUMING SHORTLY, BUT THERE WAS EXECUTED, UH, CITY IN JULY.

SO THIS INCLUDED ALL OF THEIR PROJECTS THAT WERE IN THE BOMB PACKAGE TO SOME DEGREE OR ANOTHER.

UM, THE PROJECT, UH, IS UH, AS UH, DESIGNED IS APPROXIMATELY 63% COMPLETE FOR THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT ON 1 48 NORTH.

THEY ARE, UH, STILL WORKING ON SOME FEMA COORDINATION, WHICH IF YOU HAVEN'T HAD TO DEAL WITH FEMA LATELY, IT'S GOTTEN A WHOLE LOT MORE DIFFICULT WITH THAT WATER.

AND SO THAT PUSHES THE LEFT DATE OUT A LITTLE BIT.

OH, I FORGOT TO TELL YOU, YOU ALL KNOW THIS, BUT THEY DON'T WHERE IT'S HIGHLIGHTED IN YELLOW, IT'S CHANGED FROM THE REPORT FROM THE LAST TIME YOU SAW IT.

SO THAT WAY YOU CAN JUST SCAN THE YELLOW, JUST CHECK TO SEE WHAT'S THE MOST RECENT INFORMATION.

AGAIN, BE SPEED ISLAND, BE THE TOPIC OF A CONVERSATION SHORT.

I BELIEVE 1641 ADVANCED CLAIM IS ONE OF THE TWO PROJECTS THAT'S ON HOLD.

UH, AND THIS REASON ON HOLD A THAT WAS APPROVED BY THE STATE, BUT IT GOES FROM, IT GOES NOT JUST IN AND COUNTY.

AND SO WE GOTTA WORK OUT SOME LOGISTICS ON THAT BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT TO LET THAT PASS THROUGH ON PROJECT GO AWAY UNTIL WE VE PROPERLY.

SO 34 ADVANCED PLANNING.

THIS IS A PROJECT WHERE WE'VE GOT ALTERNATIVE TO GO BETWEEN UH, AND TERRELL.

THE OTHER THING IS, IS THE MAPS ARE NOT NECESSARILY ANYTHING OTHER THAN REPRESENTATIVE OF GENERALLY THE AREA THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.

SO IF YOU SEE A MAP OF A BLUE LINE AND IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S OVER YOUR HOUSE, UH, IT'S JUST A CORE OR DESIGNATION.

SO WE JUST PUT THE LINE ON THE EXISTING 34.

BUT THERE ARE ALTERNATIVES THAT WE LOOK AT, UH, PUTTING UH, 34 ELSEWHERE.

WE HAVE NOT STARTED THIS PROJECT YET.

UH, THE REASON IS IS BECAUSE WE ONLY HAVE 30 MILLION BUCKS AND IT DOESN'T GO AS, ALRIGHT, STRATEGIC PROJECT FUNDING, I TOLD YOU 26 UH, IS A SEPARATE PROJECT.

SO HERE GO BACK TO YOUR SPREADSHEET FROM THERE.

SO STRATEGIC PROJECT FUNDING, WE PUT 3 MILLION IN THE BOND PACKAGE AND WHAT THAT WAS IS I'VE NEVER DONE A BOND PACKAGE IN THE 27 YEARS I'VE BEEN DOING THIS WHERE WE GOT IT RIGHT THE FIRST TIME AND THAT CAME UP AFTER WE BOND PACKAGE.

STRATEGIC PROJECT FUNDING IS THAT TAKE Y'ALL, UH, FUNDING CENTER ALLOWS THE COUNTY TO BE ABLE TO REACT QUICKLY TO UNFORESEEN CIRCUMSTANCES.

ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS OUT OF THE BAG WAS BACK BEFORE MY TIME AND PROBABLY BEFORE A LOT OF Y'ALL TIME, UH, THERE WAS AN AGREEMENT MADE BETWEEN TTO AND KAUFMAN AND KAUFMAN COUNTY AND I THINK CAROL WAS SOME CO WHERE EVERYBODY AGREED TO DO CERTAIN THINGS WHERE EVERYBODY BE NICE AND PLAY NICE AND GET ALONG.

HE COMMITTED COUNTY TO, UH, OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, I THINK I REMEMBER 2.7 MILLION BUCKS, UH, TOTAL.

THE COUNTY HAD A S LOAN STATE INFRASTRUCTURE BANK LOAN FOR A MILLION DOLLARS TO PURSUE ACQUISITION RIGHT AWAY.

WILL YOU AGREE TO TAKE THEIR ON THE, UH, RESPONSIBILITY ACQUIRING RIGHT AWAY FOR THE STATE.

WHAT THEY DON'T TELL YOU IS RIGHT OF AWAY ACQUISITION IS RIGHT AWAY ACQUISITION AND UTILITY RELOCATION.

SO IT WAS UH, AN ADDITIONAL SCOPE THAT WAS I THINK ANTICIPATED COUNTY.

PART OF IT ALSO WAS PARTICIPATE ON PART OF CONSTRUCTION.

THE FIRST MILLION DOLLARS WAS USED TO ACQUIRE RIGHT OF WAY AND UH, SOME UTILITIES, BUT THAT MILLION DOLLARS, UM, DIDN'T COVER ALL THAT WAS NECESSARY.

SO WHEN I FIRST GOT HERE RIGHT UP THE BRO TEST, VERY FIRST THING WE HAD TO DO WAS TAKE NINE $50,000

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OUT WHAT WE CALL THE UH, 34 NORTH LOCAL PROJECT ROOM.

THAT'S OUR CONTRIBUTION TO THAT CONSTRUCTION JOB, UH, IN KAUFMAN.

AND THEN, UH, IF YOU'LL LOOK ON PROJECT 21 AND ROAD 4 0 0 6 IN MAYBANK, WE HAD $200,000 IN THAT UH, JOB TO MAKE THOSE IMPROVEMENTS.

AND THE UH, BID CAME IN JUST UNDER $210,000.

SO WE TRANSFERRED $10,000 FROM STRATEGIC FUNDING TO COUNTY ROAD 4 0 0 6.

THE NEXT ONE IS THE ONE THAT WAS THE KIND OF THE SURPRISE AS YOU GO DOWN THROUGH THESE WHERE, UH, THE COUNTY WAS RESPONSIBLE BECAUSE THEY WERE RESPONSIBLE FOR ACQUIRING RIGHTAWAY.

THEY WERE ALSO RESPONSIBLE FOR UTILITY RELOCATIONS IN THOSE CORRIDOR.

SO WE HAD OAK GROVE WATER AND THEN UH, THERE WAS A ENCORE, I THINK THAT OUT SEPARATE OUTTA THE COUNTY RIGHT AWAY MONEY.

AND SO THESE ARE ALL PARCELS.

YOU GOT OAK GROUND WATER PARCEL, 23 FEET AND 24 EASEMENTS ON THAT PROJECT.

WE'RE ALL, UH, COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH THAT.

LAGE SIGNED UP AT THE TOP FOR, FOR THE RIDE OF .

AND THEN OP SUBMITTED US A UH, WHAT WE CALL A RIDEAWAY LOCAL POLICY ADVANCED FUNDING AGREEMENT THAT REQUIRED A LOCAL MATCH OF $11,000 AND UNANTICIPATED.

SO I RECOMMENDED AND IT APPEARS THAT THE COURT APPROVED UH, THOSE FUNDS COMING OUTTA THAT.

SO WE'LL GO BACK UP TO LINE 26.

WE STARTED WITH $3 MILLION IN UH, STRATEGIC PROJECT FUNDING TODAY WE SPENT 1,976,000 9 86 8 CENTS.

WE HAVE SPENT SOME OF IT, WE SPENT, WHAT WE HAVE LEFT IN THAT IS 1,023,000 1356.

SO Y'ALL ALREADY PAYING ATTENTION TO THAT BECAUSE EVERYTHING SOMETHING GOES WRONG AND I DIDN'T SIGN BOND PACKAGE.

THAT'S WHERE I'M GONNA GO LOOK TO FIRST, YOU KNOW, SAY HEY, I GOT CROSS AND THAT, OH, SO BASICALLY 2 0 5 ISN'T ON OUR NECESSARILY OTHER THAN UH, WE MONITORING, UH, ONE PICK UP DOING.

AND THAT MATCH SHOWS YOU THE CORRIDORS IN ALL THREE CAN COFFMAN, ROCKWELL AND COL COUNTY.

UH, AND THE TAR PROJECT, THE 1 48 JOB TAKES THIS REGIONAL CORRIDOR AND EXTENDS SOUTH TO I 20, WHICH I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT KNOW IT'S, IT'S A PART OF A ALLY SIGNIFICANT CORRIDOR CAP IS THE CONSULTANT ON BOARD COORDINATING WITH, UH, ON THEIR, UH, RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE STATE TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE AWARE OF THE DESIRES, HOPES OF, AND THAT IS IT ON THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT ON THE STATE HIGHWAY 2 0 5, IT DOES SHOW THAT IT WOULDN'T GO ALL THE WAY TO ACCIDENT.

WELL NO, UH, THAT'S AN ARROW IN PROJECT.

SO THAT, THAT BLACK LINE IS JUST AN ARROW STOP AT IT STOPS AT EIGHT.

STOPS AT EIGHT.

IT'S THE TAR JOB THAT CONTINUES ON FOR 20.

I DON'T YEAH, IT'S TOO EARLY.

NO, IF YOU, IF YOU ELEVATE, IF YOU ELEVATE THE RAILROAD INSTEAD OF THE ROAD, THE RAILROAD IS ALREADY THERE AND YOU'VE ALREADY ON WHERE CROSS YOU CAN ELEVATE JUST ENOUGH.

NOT MAKE TRANSITION.

DOESN'T COME BACK.

MAKE US GO DOWN AND GO UNDER.

WELL IT DEPENDS ON HOW, HOW WE CAN GET THE RAILROAD.

AND NOW I FORGOT TO TELL YOU, I'M NOT AN ENGINEER.

I'M NOT SO DOWN THESE SI EIGHT FOOT, YOU SAY IT EIGHT FOOT, YOU GOTTA, YOU GOTTA BE LIKE

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18 TO 20 FEET.

YOU, YOU KNOW, YOU STRETCH DOWN FEET THAT LEMME JUST SAY I CAN HEAR ALL THE BRAIN WHIRLING BACK HERE AND ALL THE TECHNICAL PRACTICE.

SO I OVERSIMPLIFY BECAUSE IT, WE'LL FIGURE IT OUT.

I THINK SOMEBODY SAID SOMETHING, SIDETRACK.

THOSE ARE, THOSE ARE THE ONES WE LOOKED AT AND THOSE ARE THE ONES THAT ARE FAR ENOUGH THAT IF WE DO SIDETRACKS, I'VE NEVER ON RAILROAD ALLOW YOU TO DO JUDGE, I JUST WANTED TO THANK JOHN FOR HIS TIME TODAY, JOHN AND THE JUDGE AND I TO KEEP THE COMMISSIONERS AND THE ERS INFORMED.

WE HAD A GOOD DIALOGUE OVER A COUPLE OF DAYS, YOU KNOW, DISCUSSING THE DRAW DOWN PLAN FOR THESE FUNDS AND IT'S JOHN'S BELIEF THEN THAT, THAT WE'VE GOT ABOUT 18.8 MILLION IN THE BANK TODAY.

THERE YOU GO, JOHN SUSPENDED AND UH, AND JOHN'S FEELING IS WE NEED TO MAINTAIN THAT IN, IN A LIQUID FORM.

AND, AND I JUST FROM YOUR PRESENTATION TODAY, DID ANYTHING CHANGED FROM THAT? IS THERE ANYTHING WE CAN GO AND INVEST FOR NINE MONTHS OR A YEAR? I DON'T, I DON'T SEE IT.

OKAY.

THAT'S ALL WE WANTED TO CLARIFY.

YES SIR.

THANK YOU JUDGE.

THANK YOU.

ALRIGHT, ANYBODY HAVE ANY, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR JOHN AVAILABLE ELECTRONICALLY? SO IF YOU GET PEOPLE THAT NEED IT, I CAN GET IT TO YOU.

YOU MIGHT POST IT UP OR SEND SPREADSHEET.

WE GOT LOT OF WORK GOING ON.

ALRIGHT.

NEXT ITEM IS NUMBER SEVEN AND THAT WILL BE.