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THE CONTROLLER'S OFFICE.

THE CONTROLLER HAS IDENTIFIED THESE ENTITIES ON THE SECOND CHART THERE, UH, AND THE RATE AT WHICH THEY TAX.

AND IF YOU LOOK ACROSS THE CHART, YOU'LL FIND THE LOCAL RATE, UH, THAT'S IMPOSED AND ON, LIKE IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE CITY OF COMBINE THERE, THEY, UH, IMPOSED A, UH, TAX OF ONE AND A HALF SINS, UH, ON TOP OF WHAT THE, THE, UH, THE COUNTY HAS SO THAT YOU END UP WITH A TOTAL, UH, TAX OF 7.75.

AND SO YOU CAN SEE, UH, THE VARIOUS COMMUNITIES COMING DOWN THE LIST AND YOU CAN SEE THE VARIOUS COMMUNITIES THAT HAVE GOTTEN TO THE MAXIMUM OF 8.25 AS YOU LOOK IN THAT LIST.

AND ALL THAT IS, AGAIN, IS THE COMMUNITIES THAT, UH, THAT, UH, HAVE AND ARE CURRENTLY IN CLOSING TAX.

SO WHEN THE COUNTY ALREADY HAS TAX ENTITIES, YOU CANNOT ADOPT A COUNTY SALES TAX WHILE THE COUNTY HAS CONSTITUTIONALLY AND LEGALLY A 2% LIMIT ON SALES TAX THAT YOU CAN ADOPT.

ONCE THE LOCAL GOVERNMENTS, THE OTHER LOCAL GOVERNMENTS HAVE GONE OUT AND, AND SET A TAX RATE, YOU HAVE NO LONGER THE OPTION OF TAXES.

SO THE LEGISLATURE CREATED A MECHANISM WHEREBY THE COUNTY HAS SOME ABILITY TO GO TAX IN THE UNINCORPORATED AREA TO THE PLACES WHERE NOBODY HAS, UH, NO COMMUNITY HAS ESTABLISHED A LOCAL SALES TAX.

YES.

AND SO THAT YOU ARE ALLOWED TO CREATE UP TO FOUR DISTRICTS.

SO THERE'S FOUR COUNTY ASSISTANCE DISTRICTS, UH, WITHIN THE COUNTY, UH, AND DEFINED AREAS WHERE NO OTHER, UH, TAX OR SOME OTHER COMMUNITY IS TAXING IT A MAXIMUM LEVEL.

AND YOU'RE ABLE TO THEN IMPOSE TAX, WHATEVER, WHATEVER RATE YOU WANT TO DO.

AND SO THE NEXT DOCUMENT IN YOUR PACKET, IT IS A SHORT, VERY BRIEF, UH, IT'S PREPARED BY THE PATROLLER AND IT'S A SHORT LAYMAN'S EXPLANATION OF THIS TOPIC.

UH, AND UH, FOR COUNTIES AND, AND I'M JUST GONNA GIVE YOU A BRIEF OVERVIEW OF THAT.

BUT BASICALLY THE POINT IS THAT THE COUNTY COULD TAKE THAT UNINCORPORATED AREA WHERE NO TAX CUT IS CURRENTLY ASSESSED, UH, LOCAL SALES AND USE TAXES SUCCESS AND COULD CALL AN ELECTION OF THE RESIDENTS THAT, UH, THE VOTERS THAT LIVE IN THAT AREA.

AND THEY HAVE TWO QUESTIONS BEFORE THEM.

BASICALLY THE QUESTION OF WHETHER A DISTRICT IS TO BE CREATED FOR LOCAL ASSISTANCE, AND TWO, THE RATE AT WHICH THE TAX MAY BE ASSESSED ON THOSE FOLKS.

SO IT MEETS THE CONSTITUTIONAL REQUIREMENT IN THIS STATE THAT NO TAX MAY BE IMPOSED ON ANY RESIDENT WITHOUT THEM HAVING THE OPPORTUNITY TO CONSIDER THE QUESTION AND AUTHORIZE THE, THE DEVICE TO.

SO TO CLEAR THAT UP, EVERYBODY LIVES OUTSIDE AREA THAT DOES TAX, IT'LL TAKE A MOLD OF CITIZENS, ABSOLUTELY.

NO, NO TAX COULD BE IMPOSED BY THE COUNTY.

NO LOCAL SALES ABUSE TAX COULD BE IMPOSED THAT BY THE COUNTY IN ANY ONE OF THESE LOCAL ASSISTANCE DISTRICTS OR ANY DISTRICT WITH, WITHOUT THE CONSENT OF, UH, CITIZENS.

AND SO, UH, THE QUESTION THAT IS POSED TO THE RESIDENT THAT LIVED THERE, THE VOTERS THAT ARE THERE IS, UH, SET OUT BY STATUTE AND THERE'S THE, YOU HAVE TO USE THIS LANGUAGE IN THE BALLOT AND, AND, UH, IT'S ON PAGE, UH, OF THE , YOU REAL QUICKLY.

UH, THE, THE FIRST PART OF IT IS AUTHORIZING THE CREATION OF THE BLANK, UH, COUNTY ASSISTANCE DISTRICT NUMBER, WHICH ONE HERE FOR, UH, AND THE IMPOSITION OF UBSTANCE ABUSE TAX AT THE RATE OF WHATEVER RATES YOU WANTED INSERT FOR THE PURPOSE OF FINANCING THE OPERATIONS OF THE DISTRICT.

AND ONE OF THE QUESTIONS THE JUDGE SAID, UH, OR ASKED ME ABOUT WAS, WHAT CAN YOU USE MONEY LIKE THAT FROM THAT SUCH TAX TO HELP THE FREIGHT, THE COST OF ROAD OR BRIDGES IN THE, IN THE COMMUNITY? WELL, THE STATUTE, UH, C 87.013, UH, I, I AUTHORIZES, UH, A AT THIS BROAD LANGUAGE, BUT AMONG WITHIN THE SAME CHAPTER, IT LISTS ALL THE THINGS YOU COULD USE THE TAX FOR.

AND IT INCLUDES CONSTRUCTION ABOVE ROADS AND MAINTENANCE AND IMPROVEMENT OF LIBRARIES AND, UH, MUSEUMS, FOR EXAMPLE.

AND THERE'S A LIST OF, OF THE THINGS THEY ARE NOT MUCH DIFFERENT THAN THE THINGS YOU ALREADY DO WITH OTHER AT THEORUM TAX REVENUE IN GENERAL, REVENUE COUNTY.

SO, UH, THE, IF YOU WANTED TO, UH, LIMIT WHAT YOU WERE GOING TO USE IT FOR, YOU MIGHT CALL AN ELECTION ON THE PROPOSITION THE WAY THE STATUTE CALLS FOR IT, BUT YOU MIGHT, UH, PASS A RESOLUTION OR DO SOMETHING ELSE THAT MIGHT FURTHER LIMIT, UH, THE

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EXACTLY.

IF THERE WAS SOMETHING YOU DIDN'T LIKE ON THE LIST OR IN THE STATUTE, UH, THAT, THAT, UH, THAT YOU GOTTEN, AT NO POINT IN THE FUTURE WILL THE COUNTY EVER NEED MONEY FOR THAT OR WHATEVER.

BUT YOU COULD SAY, WELL, WE SPEND FOR THAT, THAT YOU WOULD MAKE THAT CONTRACT WITH THE VOTERS, IF YOU WILL, AT THE TIME YOU CALL THE ELECTION AND YOU'D PROHIBIT THAT PURPOSE.

SO THERE WAYS I WANTED TO, ON SOME OF THE CITIES, I KNOW THEY, I THINK TO LOWER THEIR PROPERTY TAX.

YEAH, THAT'S A DIFFERENT TAX, A DIFFERENT APPROACH.

SO THE COUNTY WOULD NOT HAVE THAT OPTION? NO, THERE IS A STATUTORY LIST OF USES THAT IS IN, I WANTED MAKE SURE THAT WE, WE DID DECIDE TO MOVE FORWARD.

WE COULD NOT USE IT.

PART OF THAT PURPOSE.

I I I, I'D HAVE TO RESEARCH THAT POINT, BUT I JUDGE, I'VE NOT HAD A COUNTY, WELL, I GUESS YOU COULD, I GUESS YOU COULD BUY LOWER YOUR ROAD BRIDGE TAX, ESSENTIALLY THE MONEY THAT YOU MADE, IT WOULD LOOK LIKE THAT.

YOU, IT MIGHT LOOK LIKE THAT SPREADSHEET YOU WERE JUST LOOKING AT IN THE OTHER QUESTION.

YOU KNOW, YOU FIGURE OUT WHAT TOTAL AMOUNT GET, SO BASICALLY WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS THAT THE WALMART CAME IN AND OPENED UP OUT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE COUNTY, SAY BY KIM OR SOMETHING, BUT THEY OPENED OUTSIDE THE CITY LIMITS AND THE CITY GO OUT THERE, GRAB IMMEDIATELY, UH, AND THE COUNTY HAD A A SALES TAX, THEN THEY WOULD BE CHARGING THE SAME THING AS THE CITY WOULD IF THEY WERE INSIDE THE CITY.

IF THE CITY COMES UP THERE AND TAKES IT IN, IT'S TOO LATE FOR THEM.

A A ACTUALLY, UH, WHEN THE CITY COMES IN, THE CITY RATE APPLIES TO THE TOLL, BUT THE CONTROLLER AT THE TIME, THEY, THEY GET THE MONEY UP IN AUSTIN.

UH, THEY, AT THE TIME OF THE MONEY IS, IS REMITTED BY THE WALMART TO THE CONTROLLER'S OFFICE, A SALES TAX, THE COUNTY PORTION IS SEGREGATED OUT FOR UNDER THE CITY, UH, SALES TAX AND REMITTED TO YOU.

SO YOU GET, YOU'RE CORRECT.

THE ANSWER IS TECHNICALLY CORRECT.

YOU WILL, THE COUNTY WILL CONTINUE TO GET REVENUE FROM THAT WALMART, EVEN THOUGH IT OUTSIDE THE COUNTY WOULD SAY THEY HAD A 2% TAX, THE COUNTY WOULD GET 2%, BUT THE CITY THEY ANNEX THEM IN THE CITY WOULD BE CUT OUT THAT 2%, WHATEVER THE DIFFERENCE IS, UH, THAT YOU CAN ONLY GO UP TO 8 2 2 5.

SO IF YOU'VE TAKEN UP THE VACUUM IN THAT AREA, UH, IT'S, IT'S, YOU KNOW, BUT THEY COLLECTED IN THE THE'S OFFICE IT JUDGE TWO, I GOT A QUESTION.

THE COUNTIES AROUND HERE THAT DO THIS, IS THIS NOT HUNT COUNTY THAT ALSO, I'M JUST THINKING OF OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD.

THEY, THEY DID THIS BACK IN 90 WHEN HUNT COUNTY IS ONE OF THE COUNTIES THAT IS JUST HERE LOCALLY THAT DOES THIS ALREADY.

YEAH, NO, THERE ARE, THERE ARE A NUMBER OF, THERE'S NO RIGHT, AND YOU CAN GO ON THE CONTROLLER'S WEBSITE FOR EXAMPLE, AND, AND UH, GO COUNTY BY COUNTY AND SEE EXACTLY WHICH, UH, COUNTY'S CELEBRITY THE TAX.

UH, THERE'S ALSO A NUMBER OF EMERGENCY SERVICE DISTRICTS AND OTHER POLITICAL DIVISION.

SO WHAT LET ME, UH, WHAT GOES ON HERE IS THAT, UH, WE GET THE MONEY STORES OR THE, OR WHATEVER'S OUT IN THE COUNTY, IT COMES TO US INSTEAD OF GOING THE STATE CONTROL'S OFFICE AND TO NOBODY TO THE STATE, IT GOES STRICTLY TO THE STATE.

AND WE, WE RECEIVED BACK COUNTY AGAIN, YOU'RE ADDING, ADDING, YOU'RE ADDING IT ON THE PURCHASE OF THE PRICE SIX OF THE QUARTER.

JUST LIKE IT WOULD BE 20 OR SOMETHING.

IT'S NOT LOWERING ANYTHING THAT THE STATE GETS IT'S ADDITION TO THAT.

NO, IT'S JUST RAISING, I MEAN NOT RAISED ITSELF.

IT TAX, I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY.

I THINK THE JUDGE IS ASKING WHAT THE MAXIMUM MISS OF THE SIX POINT.

THERE'S A 2 CENT AND I THINK THERE'S THE COUNTY'S PORTIONS THAT HALF, I WANNA MAKE SURE HALF, HALF SENT.

THERE'S A 2 CENT, UH, UH, FROM THE SIXTH QUARTER QUARTER.

THERE'S, THERE'S TWO, THERE'S, SO THERE'S ROOM FOR OTHER ENTITIES TO TAX THE COUNTY IS THEY THE QUARTER AND THEN EVERYBODY, SO THE, THE THE LAST TWO

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DOCUMENTS THAT THERE'S OTHER MATERIAL IN IN THE BROCHURE, I JUST WAS TRYING TO GIVE YOU AN OVERVIEW OF IT.

THERE ARE TWO OTHER DOCUMENTS IN THERE.

ONE IS A, A SORT OF A OVERVIEW OR TIMELINE FOR HOW THE COUNTY WOULD APPROACH, UH, IF YOU WERE TRYING TO MAKE A DECISION ON WHETHER OR NOT TO DO THIS, UH, STEPS THAT YOU MIGHT TAKE AS A SUGGESTION FOR GETTING THROUGH THE PROCESS OF DETERMINING WHETHER YOU DO IT AND THEN WHETHER YOU CALL SUCH AN ELECTION.

AND THEN THE, THE LAST ITEM I INCLUDED, WHICH YOU KNOW, THE JUDGE DIDN'T ASK ME ABOUT, BUT I JUST INCLUDED BECAUSE I HAD DONE SOMETHING SIMILAR FOR ANOTHER COUNTY JUST RECENTLY.

SO I THOUGHT I'D THROW IT IN YOUR PACKET.

IT IS ASSUMING YOU HAD AN ELECTION IN NOVEMBER OF 16, BECAUSE THAT'S THE ONLY THE FIRST TIME ANYBODY WOULD BE ABLE TO DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

IF, IF THE COUNTY WANTED TO DO THIS WOULD SHOW YOU THE STEPS THAT YOU WOULD TAKE TO CALL SUCH I GO TO ON THERE.

BUT I KNOW HUNT COUNTY HAS, I BELIEVE THEY UH, THEY STARTED THERE IN 82 AND I BELIEVE THEY UH, RAISED ABOUT THREE A YEAR.

I REMEMBER HOPKINS COUNTY BELIEVE TAX NAVARRA COUNTY HAS A SALE TAX.

AND I DON'T DUNNO WHETHER ALL THOSE FUNDS ARE SHOWING INTO THEIR GENERAL FUND OR THE ROAD BRIDGE OR WHATEVER.

UH, MY REASONING FOR WANTING US TO TALK ABOUT, IT'S JUST TO GET THE FACTS, YOU KNOW.

SO WE LOOK AT IT WHETHER WE DO OR NOT ISSUE, BUT AS OUR COUNTY CONTINUES TO GROW, UH, WE'RE HAVING MORE AND MORE UH, DEVELOPMENT IN THE RURAL AREAS FOR SURE.

AND THEN WE'RE ALSO CITY WHICH IS UNDERSTANDING, UH, THEY'RE ANNEXING MORE PROPERTY, WHICH WILL ELIMINATE THE POSSIBILITY THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO BE ABLE TO DO A SALES.

WE DECIDED TO DO THAT.

UH, AND THEN WE HAVE THE WHOLE ISSUE HERE WITH THE CITY OF IS VERY AGGRESSIVELY LOOKING TOWARDS OUR COUNTY TO MOVE FORWARD IN AS FAR AS THEIR IS CONCERNED.

WELL, BUT IT IS HELPFUL INFORMATION.

THREE OF US HAVE TALKED ABOUT THIS, AT LEAST ABOUT, LET'S FIND OUT WHAT THE FACTS ARE, RUSH OUT HERE AND DO SOMETHING.

WE'VE GOT PLENTY OF TIME TO LOOK AT IT.

I THINK WE COULD ADD IT ON THE BALLOT.

MY MAIN CONCERN IS, IS THAT IT DOES, IT WOULD TAKE AND UH, WE COULD CERTAIN, I KNOW ALL YOU, ALL FOUR PRECINCT, THE ENTIRE COUNTY NEEDS MORE ROAD BRIDGE BUDGETS.

SO DEDICATE THAT VOTED, THEY YOU HAVE TO, UH, YOU HAVE TO ENACT IT OR CAN YOU ENACT IT AFTER A CITY? CAN, YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? SAY THAT WE DIDN'T REALLY WANT FATHER BOTTOM POP AND IF THE CITY, LIKE SAY FOR INSTANCE EIGHT FOUR TO ANNEX, WE HAD THIS ON THE BOOKS, YOU WOULD, UH, BY VIRTUE OF HAVING PASSED THE MEASURE IN POST ATTACKS, SO AT THE TIME THE VOTERS AUTHORIZED IT, UH, THAT THEY HAVE AUTHORIZED IMPOSITION OF THE TAX AS SOON AS YOU AND YOU'RE REQUIRED TO NOTIFY THE CONTROLLER THAT YOU PASSED IT PASSED IT.

RIGHT.

AND THE CONTROLLER'S REQUIRED TO CUT TO, TO TAKE YOUR PORTION OUT.

BUT STARTING THE FIRST DAY OF THE FIRST FOURTH QUARTER AFTER IT'S PASSED, WHAT IS OUR, WHAT CAN WE COLLECT? WHAT IS IT HALF, HALF ABSENT HALF WHAT YOU WOULD DO AND IT WOULD, YOU WOULD JUST PUT A HALF ON THERE.

I MEAN THAT'S WHAT, AND THE REASON I MENTIONED THE FOUR DISTRICT, BECAUSE FOR EXAMPLE, LET'S SAY THERE WAS A COMMUNITY THAT HAD ENCLOSED, UH, THERE'S A SIX AND A HALF AND, AND THEN THERE WAS A COMMUNITY THAT OPPOSED OPINION OR OR LET'S SAY, UH, ONE POINT, UH, SEVEN, FIVE.

AND I THINK YOU CAN SEE A COUPLE OF THESE IN HERE.

LET'S SAY THE FIRST ONE ON YOUR CHART, 7.75, UH, YOU JUST GOT ENOUGH ROOM THERE FOR, FOR A CAP.

AND I, I DON'T THINK WE HAVE A A GOOD EXAMPLE IN YOUR, IN YOUR COUNTY, BUT I

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HAVE SOME COUNTIES WHERE THEY ATTEMPTED TO DO THIS AND THERE WAS ALREADY EIGHT UP TO 8 CENTS WORTH OF LOCAL SALES PAY.

AND SO IF THE COUNTY WAS GONNA INCLUDE THAT, YEAH, THEY CAN'T TOUCH HIM.

THEY CAN'T GO OVER, UH, OVER EIGHT, EIGHT AND QUARTER.

SO THEY WOULD'VE BEEN LIMITED.

THE COUNTY WOULD'VE BEEN LIMITED TO A QUARTER SCENE.

YEAH, NO, LIKE, LIKE PONY HAD AN EIGHT AND QUARTER, HE COULDN'T TOUCH, HE COULDN'T PINCH 20.

BUT LET'S JUST SAY SOMEBODY HAD GOTTEN A TAX RATE THAT WAS, YOU KNOW, WITHIN.

BUT YOU'RE SAYING THAT LIKE, LIKE COMMON, YOU SAID THE 7.75, YOU COME IN WITH YOUR HALF CENT.

WELL THE CITY INSIDE THE BUT NOT INSIDE.

YEAH, THEY'RE NOT MAXIMUM, RIGHT? YEAH.

YEAH.

THAT'S WHY THERE'S, THAT'S WHY YOU'RE ALLOWED TO CREATE MULTIPLE DISTRICTS BECAUSE OF PEOPLE WILL THEY HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO VOTE? VOTE YOU HAVE.

THAT'S WHY THEY CREATED FOR THIS.

BECAUSE THE, THE, THE PROBLEM IS THAT IF SOMEBODY COMMUNITY LIKE COMBINES ALREADY IMPOSED TAX, BUT THEY HAVEN'T GONE UP TO THE FULL MAXIMUM, YOU CAN'T INCLUDE, YOU CANNOT INCLUDE 'EM IN ALL THE UNINCORPORATED, YOU KNOW, IN YOUR DISTRICT BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, YOU, YOU'D HAVE, COMBINE WOULD HAVE TO BE ITS OWN DISTRICT.

IF IF THEIR RATE IS IS MORE THAN IN OUR DEAL WHERE WE COULD ADD A HALF OR 10.

DO THEY HAVE TO BE A DISTRICT ALL ON YOUR OWN? YEAH.

IF THEY HAVE.

SO YOU CAN ONLY ACCEPT FOUR CITIES BASICALLY THAT WERE UNDER THE RANK.

YEAH.

AND I DON'T SEE, I I, NO, I DON'T I THINK WE, WE WE, I'M CONFUSING.

UH, CO COMBINE COULD BE IN YOUR DISTRICT BECAUSE THERE'S HALF A CERTAIN ROOM.

NO, WHAT I'M, WHAT HE'S ASKING WAS DO THEY HAVE TO BE THEIR OWN DISTRICT OR COULD YOU USE THE WHOLE PRECINCT ONE AS A DISTRICT? THE REASON YOU DON'T WANT TO USE A WHOLE PRECINCT AS A DISTRICT IS BECAUSE ONE, THERE COULD BE ALREADY A CITY IN THAT EIGHT AND A QUARTER.

AND THE OTHER REASON IS, SO YOU CUT, CUT THEM OUT, YOU DEVELOP LINES AND YOU MAKE THE DISTRICT.

SO A SIMPLISTIC APPROACH WOULD BE ALL THE UNINCORPORATED PART OF THE CITY, A, A, A A, A SECOND GENERATION MIGHT BE ALL THE INCORPORATED PART OF THE CITY PLUS COMBINE.

'CAUSE IT IS GOT BOOM FOR HALF PERCENT OF TAX.

YOU SEE THAT? UH, BUT IF ANY OF THEM HAD THEN YOU COULD INCLUDE THEM IN ON YOUR DISTRICT.

YOU MAY INCLUDE THEM IN THAT.

YEAH, IT IS, IT IS ONLY FOR THE EXCLUDE DISTRICTS ARE ONLY FOR SITUATIONS WHERE THERE ISN'T A HALF CENT WORTH OF ROOM.

FOR EXAMPLE, A MUNICIPAL DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT AT AAMP, I GUESS.

MM-HMM.

AND, UH, I DUNNO EXACTLY WHAT MUNICIPAL DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT A FEW YEARS AGO, THEY JUST, SO THEY'RE ALREADY AT THE CAP.

SEE THE ONE POINT, THE CAMP HAS THE 1.75 AND THEN THE 20.25, THAT GETS YOU THE 2 CENTS MAXIMUM.

AND SO THE DALLAS ONE UP THERE, THAT CITY OF DALLAS AND DALLAS NTA, THEY GET YOU TO THE 2 CENTS.

SO YOU'RE LOOKING FOR 2 CENTS WORTH OF ROOM AND IT HAS TO BE AN ACTUAL CITY ANNEX OR CAN IT BE THE E TT A? YOU CAN ACCESS THE ETJ.

OKAY.

IT IS ON THE, THE ONLY THING THAT WOULD NOT BE IN YOUR DISTRICT WOULD BE THE ACTUAL CITY LIMIT LINES AS OF THE TIME OF THE ELECTION WAS CALLED OBVIOUSLY.

ALRIGHT, LEMME COMPLICATE THIS JUST A BIT MORE.

I KNOW WE NEED TO STAND UP HERE.

WE HAVE THE CITY OF, BUT WE FLY HERE.

SO IF WE DECIDED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS, UH, PROJECT THAT THEY, YOU KNOW, THAT THEY'RE REQUESTING CALL, IF WE DECIDED TO DO THAT AND SAY, OKAY, WE'LL DO THAT, BUT WE WANT YOU TO GIVE US A HALF CENT OF YOUR SALES TAX.

COULD WE, UH, I'M SURE THEY'D BE WILLING TO DO THAT.

I CAN'T IMAGINE THAT CAN YOU WORK THAT INTO THE LAW? ALL I CAN TO JUDGE HAS BEEN A PLEASURE.

IT COMPLICATED.

S THE 2 CENTS AND THEY CAN USE THE, THE, THEY USE IT ANYWAY.

THEY CHOOSE TO, THEY CAN USE IT WAY THEY CHOOSE.

SO YES, THEY GIVE, I'M SORRY.

IT IS, IT'S A, IT IS A,

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IT WAS BOTH PARTIES.

THAT WHAT YOU MEANT WHEN YOU STOOD.

NO, NO.

YOU'LL BE HEARING FROM THAT GENTLEMAN.

SO A AGAIN, I'M SORRY IT'S A COMPLEX SUB SUBJECT, BUT BOILED DOWN TO CREATION OF THE DISTRICT THAT, UH, WHERE VOTERS COULD DECIDE IF THEY WANNA THAT'S RIGHT.

THERE'S A KEY WORD THERE.

Y'ALL.

Y'ALL HEAR THAT RIGHT? YES.

Y'ALL HEAR THAT IT IS THE RIGHT OF A VOTER, NOT OF US.

THANK YOU.

WE WE WON'T DO THAT.

OKAY.

THANK YOU VERY.

ANYBODY ELSE? ANY QUESTION? THANK YOU BEING, LETS TAKE A SHORT BREAK.