* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [00:00:01] MEETING THE WORKSHOP SESSION THE COURT. TODAY'S MONDAY, NOVEMBER THE 16TH, IT'S NINE O'CLOCK AND UH, WE HAVE SEVERAL OPENING CEREMONIES IS PRESENT AND THE NUMBER TWO ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER CANVASING ELECTION RESULTS FOR NOVEMBER 3RD OPTION ELECTION FOR THE LEGAL SALE OF BEER AND WINE FOR ALL S CONSUMPTION, UH, ONLY FOR JD TWO. AND, UH, MS IS OUT. I BELIEVE YOU HAVE A CERTIFICATION LETTER FROM HER MATERIAL THAT SAYS I OFFICIAL FOR TON COUNTY TEXAS CERTIFY THAT THE FOLLOWING IS A TRUE AND ACCURATE STATEMENT OF BOTH CAST IN THE VARIOUS PRECINCTS FOR TON COUNTY ELECTION HELD ON NOVEMBER 3RD ON THE JP LOCAL THIS NOVEMBER THE NINTH SIGNED BY AND FOR A COURT READ THE SUMMARY OF BOTH, UH, THIS, THE ELECTION OFFICIAL FOR THE JP TWO LOCAL OPTION NUMBER ONE ELECTION. THE OTHER, THE THIRD DAY OF THIRD DAY OF NOVEMBER, 2015, COUNTY TEXAS DO HEREBY CERTIFY THAT THE FOLLOWING IS A FURTHER CERTIFIED THAT THE FOLLOWING LOCAL TOS, INCLUDING TOS AND ELECTION PROCEED UNDER SECTION EIGHT SEVEN CODE. SO IF YOU LOOK THROUGH THERE, THE LOCAL OPTION, NUMBER ONE LEGAL SALE MINE FOR OFF CONSUMPTION ONLY, UH, FAR AND THE EARLY VOTING, UH, WAS 5, 6, 7, UH, AND THREE 19 AGAINST IN THE DAY OF THE ELECTION IT WAS FOUR 80, UH, THE, UH, ITEM AND AGAINST FOR A TOTAL NUMBER OF THOUSAND 47 PEOPLE FOR, UH, THE SALE OF LINE FOR ON CONSUMPTION. AND THEN ALSO SIX TWO, WHICH IS THIS WAS ALSO NINTH DECEMBER. UH, DO YOU, UH, PHIL, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU'D LIKE TO ADD, UH, TO THIS? UH, NO SIR. YOU'RE TELL THE SAME THING I THAT THE SAME NUMBER AS YES, SIR. OKAY. UH, SON IS C CERTIFIED THIS BY, UH, YOU KNOW, BY THIS LETTER COMMISSIONER QUESTION. HAVE A MOTION. OKAY. HAVE A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS TO ACCEPT RESULTS. WE HAVE A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION SAY AYE. UH, THIS IS ITEM NUMBER THREE. UH, ON THE UH, AGENDA. IT'S TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER CANVASING FOR LOCAL RESTAURANTS FOOD BEVERAGE CERTIFICATE FOLDER FOR JP PRECINCT TWO. UH, THIS ALSO LETTER, LETTER FROM MR. IFF SAYS, CERTIFY THAT FOLLOWING IS TRUE AND ACCURATE STATEMENT OF BOTH CAST IN VARIOUS PRECINCTS OF TON COUNTY FOR GENERAL ELECTION HELD THE THIRD 2015 ON OF J FOLLOWING THE, THE FIRST PART OF THAT. BUT LOOKING AT THE RESULTS IT SHOWS IN THE ELECTION SIX, THE ELECTION 5 33 AGAINST AND THEN THE [00:05:10] EVERYTHING IN ORDER. YES SIR. OKAY. I HAVE A MOTION THAT WE ACCEPT. MOTION IN FAVOR, SAY I. OPPOSED? ALRIGHT. UH, NUMBER FOUR IS UH, TO CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT ELECTION COUNTY. AND YOU HAVE A HANDOUT ON THAT. I'M NOT GONNA, THE LETTER FROM UH, EXCEPT IT TALKS ABOUT, THIS IS THE CONSTITUTION SELECTION. UH, AND YOU'LL SEE RETURNS THERE THAT WERE LISTED PROPOSITION ONE PROCESS ALL RETURNS ELECTION. BUT YOU SEE IN PROPOSITION ONE IT PASSED BY 56 0 8, UH, 3 52 90 4% PROPOSITION 2 56, 33 4 AND TWO 60. PROPOSITION THREE, UH, TOTAL 4 2 15 57 AGAINST PROPOSITION 4, 4 37 AGAINST FOUR NINE AND NINE FIVE AGAINST PROPOSITION SIX, UH, 5,000 2 55, 6 16 AGAINST. AND THEN PROPOSITION SEVEN, UH, AND FOUR, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD TO THAT? NO SIR. NO. WENT OFF BY HITCH. YES SIR, WE DID. SO IF YOU GUYS GOT THE RESULTS OUT EARLY, HAVE A MOTION OR ANY DISCUSSION? HAVE A MOTION. ALLEN SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER SHANE, ANY OTHER DISCUSSIONS? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. I. THOSE OPPOSED? THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU GENTLEMEN, BEFORE THEY COME IN AND BE WITH US THIS MORNING'S, ANY MISTAKES, WE'LL BLAME Y'ALL. UH, ITEM NUMBER FIVE IS TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACCEPTING THE MINUTES FOR THE SEPTEMBER 28TH, 2015. MOTION TO MINUTES. HAVE A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER SHANE. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER ALLEN? DISCUSS ALL, SAY AYE. THOSE OPPOSED. NEXT ITEM IS, UH, TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER APPROVAL OF RIGHT LOCAL FUNDING AGREEMENT BETWEEN KAUFMAN COUNTY AND 88 AND KINGS CREEK. RELIEF TO PROJECT, UH, YOU FAMILIAR WITH IT? WELL, I'M NOT REAL FAMILIAR WITH IT, BUT IT APPEARS WE'RE GETTING THE MONEY BACK. RIGHT? IT WAS DELAY AND THEN THEY REGROUP PLANS AND REFUND. I JUST SAY WE'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS $9,000. YEAH, WE'VE ALREADY, ANYBODY HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT SAY OPPOSED ITEM NUMBER SEVER [00:10:11] ACTUALLY WHERE WE'RE, THIS IS THE MONIES THAT WE'VE RECEIVED, UH, OVER THE LAST COUPLE YEARS FROM THE UNLA CAPITAL CREDITS, UH, THAT COME BACK UTILITY S AND UH, ALSO A ELECTRIC AND THE AMOUNT OF FUNDING THAT 78 CENTS AND THERE ARE SPECIFIC PROJECTS, THIS MONEY'S PRETTY TIGHTLY REGULATED AND THERE ARE PROJECTS THAT CAN BE FOR, WE'VE HAD BOTH, UH, A RECOMMENDATION FROM THE CHILDREN'S ADVOCACY CENTER, UH, AND THEN ALSO FROM COUNTY CHILDREN'S SHELTER. I THINK THERE'S WHY BE HERE A LITTLE BIT TALKING ABOUT THE CHILDREN SHELTER. UH, BUT UH, SHANNON, YOU UP ANSWER QUESTION WOULD LIKE TO ANY OKAY, WELL I THINK IT'S GONNA BE PRETTY FAST. YOU GUYS ARE HAVING THE FASTEST MEETING ON RECORD. SO HERE, OKAY, SO IN YOUR SUPPLEMENTAL PACKET YOU'LL FIND, UM, A BUDGET FUNDING REQUEST PROPOSAL. IT'S ON THE BACK PAGE UNDERNEATH NUMBER 10. IT'S A BUDGET. YEAH, HE'S, HE'S ALL GOT IT RIGHT THERE. UM, THE TAX BASICALLY ASKING FOR TWO SEPARATE THINGS AND THEN THEY PROVIDED YOU WITH UM, AN INVOICE AND THEN A JOB DUTIES AND UH, I GUESS KIND OF DO YOU KNOW WHEN YOU GUYS HIRE SOMEONE NEW, LIKE A JOB DUTIES DESCRIPTION, WHICH IS REALLY HELPFUL. SO THEY'VE ALREADY GOT IT ALREADY SET UP. SO THE FIRST THING WOULD BE FOR A FULL-TIME THERAPIST POSITION. AND THE SECOND THING IS RESIDUAL REPORTING EQUIPMENT AND SHANNON CAN CORRECT ME, BUT I THINK THAT THAT'S FORENSIC INTERVIEW EQUIPMENT. YES. OKAY. UM, AND THEN I JUST KIND OF WANTED TO SPEAK FOR A SECOND AS TO THEIR NEED FOR EACH OF THESE. I DEAL WITH THE CAT ON A DAILY BASIS WHEN THEY'RE PROVIDING THERAPY FOR OUR VICTIMS AND THEY'RE BOUGHT, ARE BOOKED SOLID RIGHT NOW. I MEAN THEY WORK EVERYONE IN, THEY WORK OVERTIME HOURS, THEY WORK AT NIGHT, THEY TRY TO GET EVERYONE IN AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE. BUT THE BENEFIT OF THAT IS THAT WE TAKE A CHILD WHO'S BEEN SEVERELY ABUSED IN WAYS YOU DON'T EVEN WANT TO THINK ABOUT AND THEY'RE ABLE TO GET THEM TO THE POINT WHERE THEY CAN NOT ONLY, YOU KNOW, KIND OF UNDERSTAND AND, AND UM, START HEALING BUT CAN ASSIST US IN THE PROSECUTION SIDE. AND IT IS, IT'S AMAZING WHAT THEY DO, BUT I, IF SHE'S ACT SAYING TO YOU GUYS THAT SHE NEEDS A THERAPIST, I WOULD HIGHLY RECOMMEND THAT WE GIVE HER ONE JUST BECAUSE OF THE BENEFIT THAT THEY PROVIDE OUR COMMUNITY INTO THE DA'S OFFICE, INTO THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT AND, UM, GETTING THESE CHILDREN JUSTICE THAT THEY DESERVE. AND THE INTERVIEW EQUIPMENT, IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THAT WE HAVE, UM, A SOLID SYSTEM TO PROVIDE RECORDINGS IN A, IN A WAY THAT CAN BE USED IF IT HAS TO BE USED IN TRIAL. UM, FROM THE STATE'S SIDE, WE DON'T INTRODUCE THAT INTERVIEW, BUT SOMETIMES THE UM, THE QUALITY OF IT CAN AFFECT WHETHER OR NOT THE DEFENSE ATTORNEY WHEN HE SEES THAT OR SHE SEES THAT INTERVIEW, HOW WELL THE PROSECUTION'S GONNA GO FROM FROM THEN ON. SO SHE'S PROVIDED YOU WITH TWO SOLID FUNDING REQUESTS AND IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT IT, I PREFER, UM, TO THE 19,700, WHICH IS THE TECH EQUIPMENT AND THEN THE 45 UM THOUSAND FOR THE SALARY. AND SHANNON, THE TEXAS AND BENEFITS ARE ADDED ON TOP OF THAT, RIGHT? YES. OKAY. SO THE TOTAL IS 76 4 53 AND I GUESS, UH, SHANNON AND THIS POSITION, WE, WE DUNNO HOW MUCH OF THIS MONEY WE'LL RECEIVE THIS YEAR. AND SO THIS A YEAR DECEMBER THE FIRST, SO, BUT I MEAN THERE'S NO GUARANTEE THAT THIS BE NEXT YEAR. WE DUNNO WHAT AMOUNT MONEY GETS TO, RIGHT? NO, AND I COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND THAT. UM, YOU KNOW, MAINTAINING THIS POSITION AFTER, IF THIS [00:15:01] FUNDING DOES BE APPROVED FOR THIS POSITION, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'VE HAD TWO MAJOR FUNDRAISERS A YEAR AND THOSE, THOSE FUNDRAISING MONIES HAVE BEEN DEDICATED TO COUNCIL SERVICES HUNDRED PERCENT. UM, BECAUSE THAT'S THE ONLY POSITION, WE DIDN'T HAVE ENOUGH MONEY TO SPREAD THOSE RESOURCES AROUND. SO WITH THE HELP WE, BUT WE'VE NEVER BEEN ABLE TO MAINTAIN A FULL-TIME POSITION WITH THOSE FUNDRAISING. BUT YOU KNOW, IF WE WERE ABLE TO GET THESE FUNDS FROM YOU GUYS THIS YEAR FOR THIS POSITION, THEN THOSE FUNDRAISING MONIES COULD, UM, FOR THE NEXT YEAR AND A HALF THE WAY THE CYCLE WOULD GO, UM, WILL BE DEDICATED JUST TO THIS FAIR POSITION. SO AS FAR AS MAINTAINING IT, I DON'T SEE IT BEING OUR FUNDRAISING FUNDS GO UP EVERY YEAR. UM, I JUST DON'T SEE THE PROBLEM AT ALL WITH MAINTAINING THAT POSITION. THEN THE NEXT QUESTION I HAD ON THE DIGITAL RECORDING EQUIPMENT AND, AND I ASSUME THAT'S WHAT YOU USE WHEN YOU ARE INTERVIEWING THE KIDS, UH, YES. DO WE HAVE SOMETHING IN PLACE NOW THAT'S OUTDATED OR WHAT WOULD THIS BE A SECOND SYSTEM OR NO, WE, WE CURRENTLY HAVE A SYSTEM. IT'S EXTREMELY OUTDATED AS YOU ALL KNOW WITH TECHNOLOGY. SIX MONTHS LATER IT'S OUTDATED. WELL WE'RE EIGHT YEARS ON, YOU KNOW, UM, THE LIFE SPAN OF OUR EQUIPMENT THAT WE HAVE NOW. SO IT'S EXTREMELY IN AND NOT THAT IT, IF IT STILL FUNCTIONED GREAT, YOU WOULD'VE NO PROBLEM WITH KEEPING IT. BUT IT DOESN'T FUNCTION, UM, CONSISTENTLY, I GUESS YOU COULD SAY. UM, SOMETIMES THE AUDIO DOESN'T PICK UP, YOU KNOW, THE WAY IT NEEDS TO, UM, WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, YOU DON'T, YOU CAN'T HEAR WHAT'S GOING ON AND NOT THE, THE INVESTIGATION AT ALL. SO, UM, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU HAVE CHILDREN'S VOICES IT SOMETIMES TAKES A MORE, UM, SPECIFIC TYPE OF TECHNOLOGY TO CATCH THOSE AND WORDS. 'CAUSE I'LL FIND MYSELF KIND OF LISTING LIKE, OKAY, WHAT IS SHE SAYING? I CAN'T REALLY HEAR SOME AND THIS IS THE NEWEST, LATEST EQUIPMENT. I MEAN THERE'S LOTS OF COMPANIES OUT THERE, UM, BUT THEY HAVE UM, MICROPHONES THAT ARE SUPER SENSITIVE TO CHILDREN'S VOICES BECAUSE A LOT OF TIMES YOU'LL GET KIDS IN THERE AND THEY'RE TALKING JUST LIKE I'M TALKING NOW, BUT SOMETIMES THEY LITERALLY WANNA TUCK THEIR HEAD, TALK LIKE THEIR HANDS AND THE SUPER MOUSEY SOFT VOICE AND YOU JUST CAN'T HEAR THEM AS ME AS AN INTERVIEWER. IF I'M SITTING ACROSS FROM THEM IN THAT ROOM, I CAN HEAR 'EM PRETTY WELL, WHICH IS WHY WE END UP REPEATING A LOT OF WHAT THE KIDS SAYS. BUT WHEN GETS TO PROSECUTION, THEY DON'T REALLY WANNA HEAR WHAT I'M REPEATING, WHAT THE KIDS SAY, THEY WANNA HEAR WHAT THE CHILD'S SAYING THEMSELVES. SO WITH THIS EQUIPMENT THAT WILL ALLOW US TO GET THE QUALITY INTERVIEWS, THAT PROSECUTION INVESTIGATION THAT, THAT'S THE QUESTIONS I HAD. THE ONLY QUESTION I GOT IS ON THIS SHEET WHERE IT SHOWS THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE Y'ALL UH, UH, IT HAD 2015 JANUARY, MARCH, BUT JULY, AUGUST, SEPTEMBER AND OCTOBER, I JUST DID A SIX MONTH PERSPECTIVE FOR YOU GUYS TO SEE BECAUSE I GAVE YOU ALL OF THE NUMBERS FOR 2014. WELL THAT'S WHAT I WAS SAYING. SO WE, WE'VE DONE IN SIX MONTHS MORE AND THAT IS JUST HOW OUR SERVICES HAVE GROWN AND SEPTEMBER 1ST, UM, WE'VE INCREASED EVEN MORE. SO REALLY THESE NUMBERS, UM, IF YOU LOOK FROM SEPTEMBER, OCTOBER AND INTO NOVEMBER, IT'S EVEN CRAZIER THAN WHAT THESE NUMBERS ARE BECAUSE WE'VE TAKEN ON A DIFFERENT ROLE WITH CHILD SERVICES AND UM, I DUNNO IF YOU GUYS UNDERSTAND, BUT WHEN AN INTAKE COMES OR A REPORT COMES INTO THE CHILD PROTECTIVE SERVICE HOTLINE, UM, THAT REPORT GOES TO THE LOCAL CHILD PROTECTIVE SERVICE OFFICE. WELL, BECAUSE THERE WAS UM, UM, SOME CASES THAT WERE KIND OF FALLING THROUGH THE CRACKS, UM, CHILD PROTECTIVE SERVICES ACTUALLY REACHED OUT TO OUR STATE ORGANIZATION, CHILDREN OF TEXAS AND ACTUALLY ASKED US TO BE A PART OF THAT INTAKE PROCESS. SO WHEN THEY RECEIVE THE REPORT, NOW WE RECEIVE THE REPORT. UM, AND IT JUST HELPS, IT'S NOT REALLY ANY DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WE WERE DOING, BUT INSTEAD OF US RELYING ON CHILD PROTECTIVE SERVICE TO LET US KNOW INTERVIEW, NOW WE CAN LOOK AT THOSE SAME CASES AND MAKE SURE THAT THOSE KIDS ARE GETTING THE SERVICES THAT THEY NEED AND THEY DON'T WANT THESE CRACK. SO BECAUSE OF THAT WE ARE CATCHING MORE CASES THAT WE WOULD NORMALLY HAVE SEEN. AND I THINK I HEARD HAD SOME BACK CASES. CASES AND THIS, THIS SEEMS TO BE A PROBLEM IN OUR COUNTY AND PERHAPS OTHER COUNTIES I WOULD ASSUME. YEAH, THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WHY WE HAVE A SPECIAL CHILD ABUSE PROSECUTOR NOW ON OUR OFFICE AND TO DEDICATE FOR THE AMOUNT OF CASES. [00:20:01] UM, BUT I MEAN SHANNON CAN PROBABLY SPEAK TOWARDS THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT ARE ACTUALLY PUTTING OUT AND REPORTING ABUSE. IT, IT'S KIND OF INCREASING. UM, I MEAN OUR POPULATION OBVIOUSLY IS INCREASING AS WELL, BUT I THINK THE INFORMATION OUT THERE, UM, HAS BEEN PROVIDED TO PEOPLE TO GIVE THEM, I GUESS, MORE CONSISTENT OR MORE KNOWLEDGE AS TO HOW TO WORK AND HOW TO UM, GET HER CHILD INTO A PLACE LIKE THAT. YEAH, I I I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THERE'S MORE SEXUAL ABUSE THAN PHYSICAL ABUSE THAN THERE WAS 20 YEARS AGO. I JUST THINK PEOPLE ARE MORE AWARE THAT YOU KNOW WHAT IT'S NOT APPROPRIATE AND KNOW WHAT YOU SHOULD SPEAK UP AND YOU SHOULD SAY SOMETHING AND LET OTHERS KNOW. AND SO PEOPLE ARE JUST EDUCATED ABOUT IT SO THEY MORE REPORTS IN OUR CREDIT. I CALLED KW BEFORE I CAME OVER JUST TO DOUBLE CHECK. CURRENTLY WE HAVE 50, THE FUNDING IS OUT THE MONEY, WE HAVE ANOTHER FUNDING REQUEST FOR THE CHILDREN'S SHELTER THAT WE'LL BE DISCUSSING HERE IN MINUTE. ALSO, YOU KNOW, REQUEST AS WELL, THE MONEY CAN BE USED, PURPOSE MONEY CAN BE USED ORIGINALLY SET UP FOR COUNTY ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. IT CAN BE USED ON SOME OF THE COMMITMENTS WE'VE MADE IN SOME OF COMMUNITIES TO, SO THERE ARE OTHER REASONS BUT UH, THESE TWO THAT HAVE BEEN BROUGHT TO OUR FOR BUT THE MONEY IS THIS AMOUNT GONE BIT SINCE WE FIRST STARTED TALKING? UH, I GRACIOUSLY DO YOU GUYS HAVE ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS OR FURTHER QUESTIONS? LOOKS LIKE THAT'LL LEAVE US ABOUT 95,000. WELL YOU TOTAL WELL FOR THE, FOR THE JOB AND THEN THE 19,000 7 0 1 I POINT OUT AGAIN NOW WITH THE JOB WE'RE ALREADY TOO MONTHS INTO BUDGET. SO FULL AMOUNT. DO YOU HAVE SOMEONE DETAILS, YOU HAVE SOMEONE IN MIND? UH, NO. UH, WE'VE BEEN LOOKING UM, JUST BECAUSE IT'S SUCH A NEED. SO, UM, WE HAVE ACTUALLY A CLINICAL SUPERVISOR WHO'S GOT HER JOB TO KIND SORT THOSE INDIVIDUALS OUT. AND SO, BUT SHE, SO WE DON'T HAVE ANYONE IN MIND AT THIS. SO IF THE COURT DIDN'T APPROVE THIS TODAY, IT'S NOT LIKE A PERSONAL CHARGE WORTH TOMORROW OR SOMETHING. YOU STILL HAVE THIS PERSON WILL BE A COUNTY. SO THIS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT HR NO. CREATED, UM, ALL THE REQUIREMENTS IN THE PURPOSE ADMINISTRATION BASED ON THEIR, WHAT WE WOULD DO, WE WOULD FINANCE THE AMOUNT. I UNDERSTAND THAT. THAT'S HOW I WASN'T HERE ON THE FIRST PART. OKAY. WE HAVE A REQUEST FROM THE CHILDREN'S, IT'S IN THE TOTAL AMOUNT OF ABOUT $76,000. UH, AND SO THE REQUEST IS THAT WE FUND A A FOR WHICH OBVIOUSLY BUDGET. THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION. WE'RE GIVING THEM THIS MONEY INTO IT. I MEAN THAT'S THEIR MONEY. WE, WE CHANGE. THAT'S A GOOD POINT. I MEAN NOT TRYING TO, I'M TRYING TO, I GUESS [00:25:01] WE'RE SAYING WE'RE GONNA GIVE YOU THIS MUCH MONEY, THIS FOR A YEAR'S WORTH OF SALARY AND THIS PERSON AMOUNT, DID Y'ALL GO JANUARY OR JANUARY OR OCTOBER? OCTOBER, OCTOBER, SEPTEMBER. IS IT? I DON'T BELIEVE WE, BUT ALL IN THIS, THIS LAW, THIS CAP CREDIT ALLOWS US TO DO THAT. SO THAT'S UNDERSTAND. I MEAN I HOW ADJUST THE, UNTIL YOU HIRE SOMEBODY, I DON'T, THAT'S CONFUSING. IF YOU PROVE THE UM, EXPENDITURES LANGUAGE TOWARDS THE THERAPIST POSITION, UM, THEN WE CAN FIGURE OUT THE AMOUNT THAT'S NEEDED. HIRE SOMEONE IN TWO WEEKS AND YOU JUST TAKE OFF THE LAST TWO MONTHS AND FIGURE OUT WHAT THAT AMOUNT IS SOMEWHERE AROUND 40, 40,000 OR SO AND THEN DO IT THAT WAY OR UM, OR YOU COULD JUST TRANSFER IT AS FOUR THERAPY PHYSICIANS AND THEY COULD USE IT TO PAY. UM, ANYTHING THAT'S EXTRA ON TOP FOR ANOTHER THERAPIST, EITHER ONE, THOSE BE FINE. NEXT TWO MONTHS, THE NEXT YEAR. THAT'S TRUE. THAT WOULD INSTEAD OF, I MEAN BECAUSE I DON'T, I DUNNO, I DUNNO HOW WE'RE COME UP WITH THAT. NO SAYING KAREN, WHAT KIND OF REPORT THE ADVOCACY CENTER NEEDS TO COURT SINCE THESE FUNDS HAVE BEEN DESIGNATED FOR, UH, TWO SPECIFIC PURPOSES, I'M SURE, I'M SURE THEY WOULD THAT, WOULD THAT PERSON BE, UH, CONSIDERED A COUNTY EMPLOYEE? NO, WE WOULD JUST BE FUNDING THAT AMOUNT. I WOULD NEED A BREAKDOWN OF HOW THEY'RE CALCULATING THAT POSITION, THEIR BENEFITS, SOMETHING WE COULD HAVE SOMETHING'S BACKED UP FOR OUTSIDE AUDIT AND STUFF. SO WE COULD COUNT, YOU KNOW, CUT A CHECK SORT. WE DO DO THIS. I FAR MANY CASES NOT WOULD TO SHOW UP AT COURT AS LONG GET A PIECE OF PAPER. OKAY. GENTLEMEN, WHAT'S YOUR FAVOR? I, ALLEN ANY OTHER DISCUSSION. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.