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FEEL LIKE ALL YOU DID WAS JUST WALK OUT OF THE HOTEL.

DO A FEW THINGS, WALK RIGHT BACK IN.

WELL, LARRY, ALRIGHT, WE'LL, UH, GO AHEAD AND CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER.

TODAY IS MONDAY, APRIL 25TH, UH, NINE O'CLOCK.

WE'RE IN THE SECOND CON, SECOND FLOOR CONFERENCE ROOM.

OBVIOUSLY, AS YOU CAN TELL, BECAUSE EARLY VOTING IS GOING ON, UH, DOWNSTAIRS IN OUR REGULAR MEETING ROOM, I'D LIKE TO, UH, THANK ALL OF YOU THAT ARE IN ATTENDANCE TODAY.

UH, PLEASE TO HAVE YOU WITH US.

AND, UH, IF YOU WISH TO ADDRESS THE COURT ON ANY OF THE ITEMS THAT ARE ON THE AGENDA, UH, IF YOU'VE NOT ALREADY DONE SO, PLEASE FILL OUT A FORM AND GET THOSE TO THE SHERIFF AND, UH, HE'LL GET THEM TO ME ALREADY HAVE TWO.

SO, UH, THEY'RE FRONT THE BACK OF YOUR, UH, AGENDA ITEMS. SO, UH, IF YOU WOULD STAND, I'VE ASKED, UH, IN PRAY, GRACIOUS FATHER, THANK YOU, BUSINESS OF COUNTY, WE JUST ASK YOU TO BE WITH AS OUR FIRST RESPONDERS.

OUR POLICEMEN, EVERYBODY THAT WEAR THE UNIFORM ALSO BE WITH OUR SOLDIERS THAT ARE IN HARMS WAY AND BRING THEM HOME THEIR, TO THEIR FAMILIES.

THANK THANK OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE WITH, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE.

FOR ALL HONOR, HONOR THE TEXAS FLAG.

I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO BE TEXAS, ONE STATE UNDER GOD, ONE.

TURN THOSE IN.

I DO HAVE, UH, TWO, UH, THAT WILL INVOLVE ITEM NUMBER NINE AND ALSO ITEM NUMBER 21.

I DO HAVE A COUPLE OF, UH, ITEMS ON THE, UH, ROUTINE CORRESPONDENCE.

UH, ONE, UH, JUST TO LET YOU KNOW FROM THE, UH, COUNTY EXTENSION SERVICE, UH, THEY WILL BE HAVING A, UH, TEXAS A AND M AGRILIFE EXTENSION EXPO ON FRIDAY, MAY THE 20TH OUT AT THE KAUFMAN COUNTY FAIRGROUND.

THEY DO THAT EVERY YEAR.

THEY'LL HAVE, UH, EXHIBITS ON WHAT THEY, UH, HAVE, UH, GOING ON IN THE EXTENSION SERVICE.

I DON'T THINK ROUTE IS HERE OR ANYBODY FROM THE EXTENSION SERVICE.

THEY JUST, UH, WANTED, UH, ME TO MAKE SURE YOU, UH, WERE AWARE OF THAT.

THAT'S, UH, A LITTLE WHILE OFF FRIDAY, MAY THE 20TH.

I'M SURE THERE'LL BE MORE INFORMATION ON THAT.

I ALSO HAVE SOME FLYERS, AND THIS WILL BE, UH, UH, LATER ON IN THE MEETING, UH, UH, CONCERNING THE KAMAN COUNTY CLEANUP DAY.

THAT IS, UH, OUR DAYS.

THAT'S SET FOR MAY THE 13TH AND, UH, 14TH.

BUT WE'LL HEAR A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THAT.

UH, HERE, UH, AFTER WE AGENDA THE NEXT ITEM I HAVE, AND GO AHEAD AND PRESENT THESE, I THINK ONE FOR, UH, JIMMY, UH, ALSO KENNETH AND JAKE, UH, KENNETH SHANE, UH, MR. PRECINCT THREE BROUGHT THESE IN THIS MORNING AND IT'S A CERTIFICATE OF APPRECIATION FROM THE VOLUNTEER SERVICES GROUP AT THE, UH, TARRELL STATE HOSPITAL.

AND, UH, IT JUST SAYS THIS CERTIFICATE IS AWARDED TO THE NAME OF THE INDIVIDUAL, THE COMMISS AND MYSELF AND RECOGNITION VALUE AND CONTRIBUTIONS TO TARRELL STATE HOSPITAL VOLUNTEER SERVICES COUNCIL.

AND THAT HAD TO DO WITH THE, UH, UH, FOUNTAIN 5K RUN THAT OCCURRED, UH, THIS YEAR.

AND AS YOU KNOW, BY NOW, I WAS THE ONE OF THE LEADER OF THE PACKS ON THAT, UH, RUN.

AND SO, KENNETH, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING LIKE TO SAY ABOUT THAT? JUST THAT THEY RAISED MORE MONEY THIS YEAR FOR HOSPITAL.

THIS GOES TO HELP TO FILL PEOPLE OUT THERE BECAUSE IT JUST BUYS THINGS FOR THE PEOPLE OUT THERE THAT, UH, STATE HOSPITAL, WHAT THIS GOES TOWARDS.

THEY HAD A REALLY GOOD YEAR THIS YEAR.

SO THANK ATTORNEY.

THANK YOU COMMISSIONER FOR HELPING OUT.

GREAT.

THANK YOU.

ALRIGHTY.

UH, NEXT ITEM IS THE, UH, UH, CONSENT AGENDA.

I HAVE THREE ITEMS ON THAT, AS YOU CAN NOTE.

UH, THE FIRST IS THE ACCEPTANCE OF THE MEETING MINUTES FOR MARCH THE EIGHTH, 14TH, 28TH,

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AND APRIL 11TH, UH, 2016.

ITEM B IS, UH, DISTRICT REPORT ON THE CITY SALES TAX FOR COST COUNTY, UH, COMMUNITIES FOR THE MONTH PAY.

YOU CAN SEE, UH, THAT HOW YOUR COMMUNITY, UH, UH, RECEIVED, UH, THE, UH, SALES TAX REVENUE THAT THEY WERE TO DO.

AND THEN, UH, A REQUEST TO CONSIDER ACCEPTING A PROJECTS AGREEMENT WITH THE, UH, CITY OF OAK GROVE FOR ROAD REPAIRS IN KAUFMAN COUNTY PRECINCT.

UH, NUMBER ONE, I BELIEVE COMMISSIONER ROSA HAD ASKED THAT, THAT BE ON THE AGENDA.

ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT ANY OF THOSE? UH, AGENDA ITEMS? HAVE A MOTION.

SECOND ALLEN, UH, SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER ROSA.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

OPPOSED? NEXT ITEM IS FROM CHARLES WHITAKER.

CHARLES, ARE YOU HERE? UH, I'M NOT SURE.

UH, HE MAY, HE MAY BE DOWNSTAIRS WAITING ON US.

I DUNNO.

DOUBT RECEIPT SHOW UP.

SO, UH, WE WILL GO AHEAD AND SKIP OVER THAT.

PAM, DID YOU WANT TO GIVE, GIVE OUT SOMETHING ON THAT, ON THE, YOU WANNA WAIT UNTIL WE GET THROUGH THE UH, SURE, LETS WAIT.

IF CHARLES SHOWS UP, WE'LL, UH, GO AHEAD AND INSERT HIM BACK HERE JUST A LITTLE BIT.

UH, NEXT ITEM IS ITEM NUMBER FOUR, AND WE HAVE A REPORT THIS MORNING FROM DAN OMO, UH, FROM PUR YOU, BRANDON FIELD COLLINS, AND MO UH, UPDATE ON DELINQUENT COURT BEES AND, UH, FINES.

SO, WELCOME THIS MORNING, YOU WITNESS.

MORNING JUDGE COMMISSIONERS.

MY NAME IS DAN RAMO.

THIS IS DOUG BURNSIDE.

MORNING, AN ATTORNEY AT OUR GARLAND OFFICE.

UH, WE'RE WITH THE LAW FIRM, UH, PURDUE DANIEL HERE TODAY TO GIVE YOU A REPORT OF SOME OF OUR COLLECTION EFFORTS FOR JP COURTS.

JUST A QUICK LITTLE, UH, UH, SYNOPSIS.

UM, WE WERE HIRED TO FOR COLLECTIONS FOR JP ONE AND TWO, AND WE STARTED COLLECTIONS LAST YEAR, JANUARY OF 2015.

AND THEN WE WERE HIRED, UH, TO COLLECT FOR JP THREE AND FOUR.

AND WE STARTED COLLECTIONS JANUARY OF THIS YEAR.

SO WE'VE JUST BEEN IN THREE MONTHS PERIOD OF TIME FOR JP THREE AND FOUR AND ABOUT, YOU KNOW, 15 MONTHS FOR, UH, JP FOUR TWO.

SO, UH, FIRST CHARGE IS KIND OF A NICE LITTLE SUMMARY OF WHAT TOTAL WAS TURNED OVER.

A LITTLE OVER $10 MILLION WAS TURNED OVER ON.

THAT'S FOR ALL FOUR REPORTS.

UM, OF THE 10 MILLION WE RESOLVED, UH, 1.1 MILLION.

YOU CAN SEE DOWN THERE DOLLARS COLLECTED, UH, A LITTLE UNDER HALF A MILLION DOLLARS AND CREATE A CASE RESOLUTION.

AND I JUST WANT TO KIND OF EXPLAIN A LITTLE BIT WHAT CASE RESOLUTION IS SO YOU KIND OF UNDERSTAND WHAT IT MEANS.

AND I PUT A LITTLE, UH, ASTERISK DOWN THERE TO KIND OF SHOW YOU WHAT THAT MEANS.

BASICALLY, WHAT CASE RESOLUTION MEANS IS THAT A CASE, THE COURT TURNED OVER A CASE TO US.

WE MAILED A LETTER, WE MADE A PHONE CALL, WE MADE CONTACT WITH THE DEFENDANT.

AND THEN WHEN THE DEFENDANT CAME BACK INTO THE COURT PROCESS, THE CASE WAS, UH, RESOLVED THROUGH AN ALTER OF THE, UH, DISPOSITION OF THE CASE, MORE OR LESS JAIL CREDIT, UH, COMMUNITY SERVICE, A FINE REDUCTION OF SOME SORT WHERE THE, WHERE THE COURTS, UH, AND IMPACTS THE CASE TO WHERE THE COUNTY AND THE STATE ARE GETTING THEIR MONEY.

BUT THEN WE'RE NOT RECEIVING A FEE.

'CAUSE, YOU KNOW, JAIL CREDIT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT GONNA TRY TO, YOU KNOW, CHARGE THE COUNTY FOR JAIL CREDIT, COMMUNITY SERVICE OR WHATEVER THOSE ITEMS ARE.

THE ONLY TIME THAT WE EVER GET PAID IS IF, IF, IF WE COLLECT MONEY.

IF Y'ALL DON'T GET PAID, WE DON'T GET PAID.

IT'S REAL SIMPLE.

SO, UM, SO THAT'S WHAT THOSE CASE RESOLUTION MEANS BECAUSE, UH, BECAUSE THOSE ARE THE CASES THAT WERE SENT TO US AND, AND THEY WERE RESOLVED, BUT THEY'RE RESOLVED TO OTHER MEANS.

AND WE'RE STILL, YOU KNOW, ASKING FOR STATISTICAL CREDIT BECAUSE WE DID BRING THE DEFENDANT BACK INTO THE COURT.

THIS CASE WAS RESOLVED IN ALTERNATIVE MORE OR LESS.

AND THEN, UH, WE JUST HAVE KIND OF A SUMMARY.

IT'S JUST KIND OF GOING THROUGH, UH, JP ONE SAME THING.

YOU KNOW, LET'S TURN OVER, LET'S RESOLVED DOLLARS COLLECTED.

UM, THEY'RE JUST KIND OF MOVING THROUGH TWO.

UM, COURSE, YOU KNOW, JP UH, THREE IS YOUR BIGGEST QUARTER THAT THAT'S THE ONE.

SO AS YOU'RE LOOKING THROUGH, YOU'LL SEE THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY'VE GOT ALMOST 4.7 MILLION, SO IT'S QUITE A BIT MORE.

UH, THE OTHER COURTS, UM, JP FOUR HAS REALLY, HAS REALLY MOVED UP.

AND I REALLY WANT TO COMMEND, UH, JP FOUR FOR THEIR EFFORTS.

AND JP THREE, AS YOU CAN SEE IN JUST THREE MONTHS.

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UH, FOR JP THREE, WE COLLECTED 155, UH, THOUSAND DOLLARS, YOU KNOW, FOR JP 405.

AND ALSO YOU CAN SEE THE CASE RESOLUTION AS WELL.

THERE WAS A LOT OF OLD CASES IN THOSE COURTS AND WE HAD A LOT OF CLEANUP.

AND THAT'S VERY TYPICAL.

WHENEVER YOU TAKE ON A NEW COURT LIKE THAT, YOU'RE, YOU'RE CLEANING UP.

THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING.

WE'RE WE'RE GOING IN THERE, WE'RE HELPING CLEANING UP THOSE FILING CABINETS.

WE'RE GETTING RID OF THOSE CASES SO THAT WAY YOU GUYS CAN HAVE TO LEAVE 'EM ON THE BOOKS.

YOU KNOW, YOU DON'T HAVE TO TAKE THAT STUFF WHENEVER YOU'RE DOING YOUR AUDITS.

WE'RE GONNA GET RID OF THE CASES AND GET 'EM RESOLVED AND GET 'EM OUTTA FILE.

AND IT OBVIOUSLY HELPS US ON OUR AUDIT REPORT.

YES, IT DOES.

THAT'S GREAT.

UM, AND YOU KNOW, A BIG PART TOO, I WANT TO SAY WHY OUR NUMBERS WERE, WERE REALLY GOOD AS WELL.

UM, WE DID A MEDIA AWARENESS CAMPAIGN THIS YEAR FOR THE WARRANT ROUNDUP.

AND SO WE BASICALLY, WE PUT THE ADVERTISING AND ALL THE MAJOR PAPERS, FORNEY MESSENGER, UH, TAR TRIBUNE, HOFFMAN HAROLD, A MONITOR.

WE COVERED ALL THE POINTS AND ALL INTO THE COUNTY.

AND WE RAN, UM, AN AD JUST KIND OF GIVING THE PUBLIC AWARENESS OF LETTING 'EM KNOW THAT IF YOU DON'T PAY, YOU'RE FINE ON TIME IN KAUFMAN COUNTY, THAT THERE COULD BE SOME CONSEQUENCES.

SO WE'RE REALLY TRYING TO GET THE MESSAGE OUT THERE TO ENCOURAGE PEOPLE.

I THINK IT ALSO HELPS AS WELL.

IT'S GONNA MAKE PEOPLE WANT TO TAKE CARE OF THEIR BUSINESS ON TIME BECAUSE THEY KNOW IF YOU DON'T PAY, IF YOU DON'T TAKE, YOU KNOW, TAKE CARE OF YOUR BUSINESS ON TIME, THEN YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO PAY THE BACK.

THAT'S JUST THE WAY THINGS ARE IN COLLECTIONS DAY IN LIFE.

YOU KNOW, IF YOU DON'T PAY YOUR CREDIT CARD BILL ON TIME, WHAT HAPPENS? YOU PAY LATE FEES.

SO IF YOU DON'T TAKE CARE OF YOUR TICKET ON TIME, THIS IS WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN.

SO I THINK IT'S GONNA BRING A LOT OF FOOD AWARENESS FOR, FOR PEOPLE PAYING THEIR TICKETS ON TIME.

AND OF COURSE, UM, YEAH, THAT'S, THAT'S WHOLE ALWAYS GONNA HELP THE MONEY THAT THIS BEING GENERATED IN.

UM, I THINK THAT'S ABOUT IT.

Y'ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT? YOU HAVE ANSWER ANY QUESTION? I HAVE ONE, ONE QUESTION.

YES, SIR.

I KNOW JUDGE ADAMS IS HERE AND I'D LIKE FOR HIM TO COMMENT IF HE'S UH, UH, WILLING TO DO SO.

UH, ON THE TOTAL FOR ALL FOUR COURTS, UH, WE SHOW A CASE RESOLUTION 667,000, WHICH IS A LOT MONEY.

YES.

UH, DO YOU EXPECT THAT WILL, THAT NUMBER WILL DECLINE BECAUSE YOU CLEANED A LOT OF THOSE? YES, SIR.

THAT'S EXACTLY RIGHT.

THIS NUMBER, YOU'LL PROBABLY WON'T SEE THAT NUMBER AGAIN ANY MORE THAN THAT.

JUST BECAUSE AGAIN, LIKE I SAID, WHEN WE TOOK ON, UH, JP THREE AND FOUR, THEY HAD A LOT OF OLD STUFF AND WE'RE JUST CLEANING THAT STUFF OUT.

UM, SO THAT NUMBER WILL NOT REALLY RLE MUCH MORE.

IT, IT'S VERY TYPICAL WHENEVER, YOU KNOW, YOUR VERY FIRST START ON, YOU CAN TAKE A BACK LOOK, BACKLOG OF THE CASES, THE BEGINNING THAT YOU'LL HAVE THAT NUMBER, BUT IT WILL, YOU'LL SEE THE DOLLARS COLLECTED, THEY'LL SEE THAT NUMBER REALLY STAY, YOU KNOW, AROUND THE SAME.

RIGHT.

WELL THIS IS A VERY EASY REPORT TO UNDERSTAND.

IT'S PRETTY, PRETTY CLEAR PERIOD.

THANK COMMISSION.

Y'ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? UH, OH, I GUESS MY BIGGEST THING WOULD BE THAT WHEN, WHEN YOU SAY TOTAL TURNOVER, WE ACTUALLY TURNED OVER 10 MILLION.

FOUR 47,000.

PRETTY BIG ONE LAST.

ALL.

WHERE'S THE REST? I MEAN, WHERE, WHERE, YOU KNOW, I, I KNOW THAT'S KIND OF A SILLY, JUST SEEMS LIKE THERE'S A TREMENDOUS LOT OF, NOT THAT THERE IS A LOT OF, IS THAT, IS THAT, IS THAT ? IT'S COUNTY.

IT'S VERY TYPICAL FOR, FOR COUNTIES OF YOUR SIZE.

UM, YOU JUST, YOU'RE JUST GONNA HAVE A CERTAIN PERCENTAGE AND YOU KNOW, AREN'T, IT'S LIKE THE BIGGEST PART YOU'RE NOT GONNA PAY.

AND THEN THERE'S A CERTAIN PERCENTAGE THAT ARE GONNA BE JAIL CREDIT OR COMMUNITY SERVICE.

IT'S ALWAYS GONNA BE A CERTAIN, CERTAIN, CERTAIN PERCENTAGE.

UM, YOU KNOW, AND THIS IS DIFFERENT THAN TAX.

I DO KNOW, I KNOW I A PROPERTY TAX, I YOU RIGHT.

YOU KNOW.

WELL, BUT THE THING IS, IS YOU GET ALL THE INFORMATION AT ONE TIME OR YOU GET THE TAX WALL AT ONE TIME.

WELL IF I IN FEES IT'S EVER, IT'S JUST EVOLVING ALL THE TIME.

AND THE CASES, THE TICKETS ARE COMING IN ALL THE TIME AND CLOSING SOME OUT, YOU'RE GETTING NEW CASES IN.

SO THE PORTFOLIO IS CONSISTENTLY GROWING ALL THE TIME.

SO, UM, I GUESS THE THING WITH , SOMETHING THAT LOOKS LIKE THAT NUMBER WOULD, YOU KNOW, MAYBE NOT THE DOLLAR AMOUNT PLATE FOR, BUT MAYBE THE TOTAL AND THE BIGGER THE PIECE PIECE OF WHAT PERCENTAGE YOU ANTICIPATE COLLECTING OR, WELL, I KNOW YOU WANT IT ALL, BUT SURE.

I MEAN GENERALLY, YOU KNOW, WE'D LIKE TO SEE, YOU KNOW, 20 TO 25% IS REALISTIC FOR A A A PERCENTAGE OF, OF THE COUNTY OF YOUR SIZE BASED UPON THE DEMOGRAPHICS.

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YEAH.

WHAT THE BE DAY WARRANTY.

THEY JUST BACK UP, YOU KNOW, I DON'T GUESS THEY CAN AND THAT, AND THAT'S THE WHAT I TRYING, THEY SAY, WELL, WE'LL GO, WE'LL GO THERE AND SEE DAVID AND SIT WITH HIM FOR A WHILE.

I'M WORKING ON, I GUESS, I GUESS, I MEAN, YOU JUST HAVE, YOU HAVE, YOU HAVE YOUR FREQUENT FLYERS JUST KEEP, YOU KNOW, YOU GET PEOPLE DRIVING IN FROM THAT.

IT'S JUST AMAZING THAT, THAT'S WHY I WAS REALLY STRESSED WHY THIS WAS DIFFERENT THAN THAN TAXES BECAUSE IT'S ALWAYS .

I MEAN IT'S JUST CONSTANTLY GROWING AND UH, YOU JUST WANT TO JUST TRY TO KEEP AND MAINTAIN A CERTAIN LEVEL.

MAINTAIN.

YEAH, I MEAN JUST, JUST BECAUSE JUST THE CASES ARE ALWAYS FLOODING IN AS Y'ALL ARE GETTING BIGGER AND THE MORE TRAFFIC COMING IN, UH, THROUGH THE COUNTY.

SO WE'RE JUST GONNA KEEP CHIPPING AWAY AND CHIP CHIPPING AWAY AND KEEP WHAT WE DO.

HOW OLD ARE THESE CASES? SOME OF THESE CASES ARE ALMOST 15 YEARS OLD.

AT WHAT POINT DO YOU KNOCK 'EM OFF THE BOOKS AND CONSIDER 'EM? WE DON'T, WE TREAT EVERY DAY.

YEAH.

WE TREAT EVERY CASE IF IT'S SIX MONTHS OLD TO 15, I'M SURE JUDGE ADAM SAID HAS ATTEST TO SOME OF THAT.

WE'VE COLLECTED SOME OLD STUFF.

I MEAN, STUFF THAT'S 10 YEARS OLD AND 12 YEARS OLD AND WE'RE REALLY CLEANING UP EVEN PEOPLE, SORRY, THE DEAD, THEY'VE HAD CASES ON OUR PEOPLE ARE DEAD WHERE WE'RE PROVIDING THE, UH, DEATH CERTIFICATE INFORMATION, BACK REPORTS.

SO YOU CAN GET THAT ON THE BOOKS THEN.

YEAH.

SO IT STAYS ON UNTIL THE PEOPLE DIE, BASICALLY.

.

SO THIS NUMBER WILL JUST GET LARGER AND LARGER.

LARGER AND LARGER.

I GUESS THAT'S WHAT I, WE HAVE, I KNOW JUDGE, UH, ADAMS IS HERE.

JUDGE KAREN, I THINK YOU WISH TO SAY SOMETHING.

YES, SIR.

IN YOUR OUTSIDE AUDIT REPORT, YOU HAVE THAT RECORDED AS A RECEIVABLE DUE TO THE COUNTY.

BUT WE ALSO HAVE A CONTRA ACCOUNT CALLED DOUBTFUL ACCOUNTS AND WE CALCULATE THAT PERCENTAGE EVERY YEAR BECAUSE WE KNOW WE'RE NOT GONNA GET ALL THAT, BUT WE STILL HAVE TO REPORT IT THAT IT'S DUE TO THE COUNTY 'CAUSE IT'S ACCURATE.

UH, JUDGE MARTIN, WOULD YOU AND JUDGE ADAM LIKE TO COME UP OR SPEAK FROM WHEREVER YOU'RE THERE? WHATEVER YOU'D LIKE TO DO? I, I'LL MOVE OVER HERE.

UM, JUST KIND OF AS AN EXPLANATION, FIRST OF ALL, I WANT Y'ALL TO KNOW THAT PURDUE HAS DONE SOME THINGS FOR US THAT HAVE NEVER BEEN DONE FOR MANY, MANY YEARS.

FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, WHAT HE MENTIONED TO YOU WAS THAT THEY HAVE FOUND THE ADDRESSES.

UM, THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WHY WE HAVE BEEN BOMBARDED WITH PHONE CALLS, UH, BECAUSE HE HAS LOCATED PEOPLE THAT HAVE NOT BEEN LOCATED IN THE PAST.

THE OTHER THING THAT THEY HAVE DONE THAT HAS NOT BEEN DONE BEFORE IS THE DEATH RECORDS.

SOME MANY OF THESE HAVE BEEN CLEARED BECAUSE THEY NOTIFIED US THAT THE PERSON WAS DECEASED.

THAT HELPS US TO CLEAR SOME RECORDS IN ANSWER TO MR. ROSA'S.

UH, COMMISSIONER ROSA'S QUESTION.

I HAVE GONE THROUGH AND CLEANED OUT SOME CASES AND THE REASON THAT I DID WAS THEY WERE PRE 2003 CASES, THEY DID NOT HAVE COMPLAINTS IN THE FILE.

THEY WERE REALLY NOT VIABLE CASES ANYMORE.

SO MY COURT CLEANED OUT SOME CASES, I CAN'T SPEAK FOR THE OTHER JUDGES, BUT MOST OF MY, UH, PRE 2000 CASES HAVE BEEN DISMISSED BY, BETWEEN MYSELF AND THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, WHICH THEY BELIEVE THAT IT, IT WAS THE PRUDENT THING TO DO.

THE OTHER THING THAT THEY DON'T HAVE ANY CONTROL OVER IS THAT THERE IS A LARGE PUSH WITHIN THE STATE OF TEXAS RIGHT NOW ABOUT INDIGENT PEOPLE BEING JAILED.

WE CANNOT JAIL PEOPLE JUST BECAUSE THEY CANNOT PAY.

SO THAT HAS CHANGED A LOT OF THE WAY THAT WE HAVE TO HANDLE THINGS.

IN FACT, THERE HAVE BEEN LAWSUITS FILED IN THE STATE OF TEXAS OVER THE LAST YEAR, UM, AGAINST CITIES, UH, AGAINST JUDGES.

UM, BECAUSE THEY HAVE JAILED PEOPLE WITHOUT AFFORDING THEM THE OPPORTUNITY OF AN INDIGENCY HEARING.

SO EVEN ON PROFILES WHERE THE PERSON HAS APPEARED AND THERE IS A JUDGMENT AGAINST THAT PERSON, WE, WE CANNOT JUST SEND THEM TO JAIL IF THEY CAN'T PAY.

WE HAVE TO FIND OTHER, ANOTHER, SOME OF THEM CAN DO COMMUNITY SERVICE, SOME OF THEM, IF THEY'RE ON DISABILITY OR THEY HAVE A DISABILITY THAT WE CAN DETERMINE, WE CAN'T, THEY'RE NOT SOMEONE THAT WOULD FIT INTO COMMUNITY SERVICE.

SO SOME OF THOSE FINES AND FEES JUST HAVE TO BE LAID FOR IN SO WE ARE CLEANING UP THE NUMBERS.

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TO ME, WHEN I SAW THEM, WERE STAGGERING JUST LIKE THEY WERE TO YOU.

IT'S NOT UNCOMMON.

UM, I DON'T GET ALL EXCITED BECAUSE A LARGE PORTION OF THAT WILL NOT BE COLLECTIBLE EVEN IF WE GET THE PEOPLE IN.

AND THAT'S WHY YOUR NUMBERS LOOK SO GOOD IS BECAUSE YOU ALREADY WENT THROUGH THE PROCESS OF CLEARING ABOUT OUT A BUNCH OF, UH, OF THE OLD ONES THAT BLOOD VIABLE CASES.

YES.

OKAY.

I CAN'T TELL YOU HOW MANY CASES WE'VE CLEARED, UH, BY THE SAME PROCESS.

UH, I CAN'T SPEAK ENOUGH FOR DAN ROMO AND PURDUE, UH, ASSOCIATION.

UH, WHEN WE DID THE WARRANT ROUND UP AND WE SENT THE LETTERS OUT, WE WERE UNABATED FROM PEOPLE BACK IN 2007, 2005, 2006 HAD TO COME PAY THE CHIEF.

BUT THAT'S PRETTY UNUSUAL BECAUSE YOU FOUND ADDRESSES.

WE HAVE 'EM.

UH, BUT LIKE I SAID, WE HAVE RESOLVED A LOT OF CASES OR SENT THEM OVER TO THE DA.

BUT, UH, MY LADY'S NEAR HAVING A NERVOUS BREAKDOWN FOR TWO MONTHS.

THE NEVER STOPPED, THE PHONE NEVER STOPPED.

AND THAT'S GOOD BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT YOU WANT.

I MEAN, IT IS, UH, IT, IT, IT DOES PUT, MAKES THE, THE LADIES AT THE COURTS HAVE TO WORK A LOT HARDER THAN THEY NORMALLY DO.

BUT IT, IT'S MONEY'S COMING IN AND IT, LIKE I SAID, IT'S CLEANING OUT THOSE, THOSE FILING CABINETS.

THAT'S OUR OTHER LINE OF THE DEAL IS THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE PAID THEIR FINE.

I MEAN, THEY'RE BEING, YOU KNOW, THEY'VE DONE WHAT'S RIGHT.

RIGHT.

AND SOME OF THESE HAVE NOT.

SO THAT'S REALLY KIND OF QUALITY THING'S.

WELL, THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH.

BACK IN JULY.

YES, SIR.

SEE WHERE WE'RE, AND AGAIN, I, I KNOW THERE'S LOT OF NUMBERS HERE, UH, BUT THIS IS VERY EASY TO UNDERSTAND.

GOOD DEAL.

I GOT, I GOT ONE MORE QUESTION.

I'M NOT SURE WHO DIRECT TO, BUT WHAT IS THE PROCESS TO DECLARE PEOPLE IN THAT THEY'RE NOT ABLE TO PAY? THEY JUST FILL OUT A FORM OR NO, I HAVE, I HAVE A PACKET THAT IS ABOUT FOUR OR FIVE PAGES LONG.

THEY HAVE TO PRODUCE DOCUMENTATION.

I, I CAN'T SPEAK FOR THE OTHER JUDGES.

WE DO, BUT I DO AN INDI HEARING ON IT.

UM, IF THEY'VE BEEN ARRESTED ON KS PROFILING AND THEY'RE IN JAIL, WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS AT THE JAIL WHILE THEY'RE THERE AND DETERMINE WHETHER THERE'S SOMEONE THAT WE CAN ACTUALLY COMMIT.

WELL, WHETHER THAT, THAT PERSON MAY SAY, I JUST WANT TO SIT IT OUT.

A LOT OF THEM DO.

UM, BUT WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH ALL OF THAT TO DETERMINE THAT THEY DON'T HAVE AN ABILITY TO PAY.

SO IT'S NOT LIKE WE JUST, THEY COME IN AND TELL US.

YEAH, WE HAVE TO HAVE IN OUR FILE INFORMATION AS TO WHY WE DO THEM INDIGENT.

SO I KNOW YOU TWO ARE, ARE DOING THAT.

WE KNOW, I KNOW YOU MEET OCCASIONALLY AS JP SERGEANT.

YEAH.

THE OTHER COURT'S WORKING ON THIS OR DO KNOW, I ASSUME THEY ARE.

OKAY.

BUT WE HAVE DISCUSSED THIS AND AT LENGTH ABOUT THIS ONE PROCEDURE ON INDIGENCY.

YEAH.

AND IF THEY'RE IN JAIL AND WE HAVE TO DO THE PAPERWORK, WE HAVE TO DO THE HEARING.

UH, IT'S KIND OF LAZY, UH, BUT SOMETIMES IT WORKS OUT.

OKAY.

OKAY.

ANYBODY ELSE GOT ANYTHING? SOMETHING PUT ON THE WORKSHOP PROGRAM? JP.

OKAY.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU.

ALRIGHT, NEXT ITEM IS ITEM NUMBER FIVE.

MR. RATFORD TAXED COURT FOR MARCH, 2016.

ALRIGHT, GOOD MORNING, GENTLEMEN.

BETWEEN THE, UM, M AND O AND INS FUND FOR MARCH COLLECTED OVER $600,000 PLUS ANOTHER $56,000 IN DELINQUENT FEES.

UH, A TOTAL COLLECTED YEAR TO DATE ON JUST AN, THE GENERAL FUND IS OVER 30 MILLION AND THAT'S IN 95.24%.

WE DID HAVE ONE ROLLBACK THIS YEAR, I MEAN THIS MONTH, AND THAT WAS ANOTHER 106 ACRES IN THE CURR STER AREA TO EXPAND THEIR MINING OPERATIONS THERE.

IF ANYBODY NEEDS MORE INFORMATION ON THAT, I HAVE IT FOR THE ROAD AND BRIDGE.

WE COLLECTED 101,000 THIS MONTH AND, UM, 7,700 IN DELINQUENT FEES.

OUR TOTAL COLLECTIONS YEAR DATE OF FIVE POINT, UH, TWO 5 MILLION.

WE, UH, THE ROLLBACK THIS MONTH FOR ROAD AND BRIDGE, THE $712 IS, THEY'RE PART OF THE, UM, ROSTER ROLLBACK.

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OKAY.

ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? LOOKS GOOD.

LOOKS GOOD.

THE NEXT STATEMENT WILL BE GOING OUT SOMETIME PRETTY SOON.

THE, UH, ALREADY SENT OUT ONE STATEMENT SINCE THEY YES.

OKAY.

GOES OUT IN FEBRUARY.

THAT ONE GOES OUT IN FEBRUARY AND THEN THE PERSONAL PROPERTY WILL GO OUT IN APRIL.

AND THEN THE BUSINESS PERSONAL PROPERTY GO OUT IN APRIL.

AND THEN THE BIG BUYING HITS FOR THOSE WHO DON'T PAY ONE.

AND THEN I BELIEVE I READ OVER YOU'RE HAVING A SALE TOMORROW NIGHT? TOMORROW NIGHT ACTUALLY IS GONNA BE IN MAYBANK MAY SIX AVENUE ZONING TOMORROW NIGHT AT SIX 30.

IS THE, UH, PROPERTY RESALE AUCTION? YOU, HOW MANY, I MEAN, DO HAVE ANY PROPERTIES? YOU, UH, IT'S BETWEEN 40, 45, 15, I THINK MOSTLY FROM THE MAYBANK HENDERSON AND, UH, PISD AREA.

ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? WHAT'D YOU SAY? IT WAS GONNA BE MAYBANK ISD AVENUE VAN BUILDING AT SIX 30.

RIGHT? WE, I HAD PRETTY GOOD SUCCESS.

WE HAVE, BUT WEATHER'S SUPPOSED TO BE REALLY BAD, SO I DON'T KNOW THESE BARGAINS.

THERE MIGHT BE.

ARE ANY THESE RESALE AGAIN, IS THIS THE FIRST TIME YOU OH NO.

A LOT OF 'EM ARE RESALE SEVERAL TIMES.

OKAY.

I, ONE OF 'EM, I CAN JUST REMEMBER ONE OF 'EM IS APPRA IT OVER 18,000, BUT IT'S ON THE, ON THE MARKET TONIGHT OR TOMORROW NIGHT FOR 2,800.

THE PROPERTY YOU CAN, WHICH ACREAGE? JUST ALL TYPES OF PROCESSES? YES, THERE'S ALL, MOSTLY IT'S LOTS, UH, SOMETIMES IT'S LARGER ACREAGE, BUT IT'S ALL ON THE WEBSITE.

ON THE FRONT PAGE OF OUR COMPANY COUNTY DO NET WEBSITE, YOU CAN SEE A RED BUTTON THAT SAYS RESALE AUCTION.

YOU HIT IT AND YOU CAN SEE ALL THE PROPERTIES THAT ARE AT THE WINDOW.

OPENING BED IS OKAY.

GOOD.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

DO I HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? MOTION TO ACCEPT THE, UH, TAX COLLECTOR COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? SAY AYE.

GONE OVER.

NEXT ITEM IS MR, THE TREASURER MONTH REPORT FOR MARCH, 2016.

GOOD MORNING.

I'M GETTING TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE.

JUDGE, UH, IN YOUR PACKET YOU HAVE, UH, PAGE ONE, AND WE'RE GOING GET THIS UP ON THE TV SO OUR GUEST CAN SEE IT.

MR. THIS HERE AND, UH, IN OUR MONTH OF REPORT, WE SHOULD BE PAGE ONE OF YOUR PACKET, UH, RECEIPTS FOR THE MONTH WERE 1,000,005 50 0 38.

AND, UH, THE, UH, 3 MILLION 986 7 28 28 IN DISBURSEMENTS.

THAT WON'T WORK ON THE TV, HUH? IT WON'T WORK.

OKAY.

IT ONLY WORKS ON THE, SO, UH, A AGAIN, WE END THE, UH, MONTH OF MARCH AT 15 MILLION 3 45, 5 48 10.

AND YOU'LL NOTICE THAT THE WE, UH, LISTEN LAST MONTH AND WE HAVE THE CERTIFIED BY THE COUNTY AUDITOR THERE ON THE LOWER LEFT HAND CORNER.

UH, OUR NEXT PAGE IS THE, UH, QUARTERLY REPORT.

AND, UH, THE TAX ASSESSOR COLLECTOR DOES GREAT JOB.

YOU KNOW, WE HAVE STARTED AT 1,000,200 4 2 0 76 71 ON JANUARY 1ST.

WE'VE COLLECTED 25 MILLION 1 17, 836 54 DISPER 11 0 14, 365 15 FOR THAT $15 MILLION ENDING BALANCE.

AND AGAIN, ALL OF OUR MONEY STAYS IN AMERICAN NATIONAL BANK, UH, AT 35.

UH, BASIS POINT INTEREST ON THE COLLECTIVE BALANCE.

IS THAT CREEPED UP IN YOU OR ARE YOU STILL ABOUT TO SUSTAIN? IT IS 35 BASIS POINTS, JUDGE, AND AS YOU KNOW FROM LAST MONTH, THE, UM, REBECCA IS REVIEWING OUR, OUR INVESTMENT POLICY TO MAKE SURE IT FULLY COMPLIES WITH THE PUBLIC INVESTMENT ACT.

AND I THINK WE'LL HAVE TO START HAVING SOME MEETINGS OF OUR INVESTMENT COMMITTEE TO START LOOKING AT SOME OPTIONS BECAUSE THERE ARE SOME OPTIONS, UM, UH, THAT ARE STILL, UH, IMMEDIATELY TO FULFILL YOUR GOAL ON THE, UH, ROADBLOCK FUNDS.

SO, UH, YOU KNOW, IT'S EXCITING TIMES FOR COMAN COUNTY.

THE NEXT PAGE, YOU KNOW, IS, IS THIS OTHER PROCEEDINGS AND, UH, JUST SOME STATISTICS.

UH, WE PROCESSED

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385 RECEIPTS ISSUED, 610 ACCOUNTS PAYABLE CHECKS 238, JUROR CHECKS, 1,179 PAYROLL CHECKS OR DIRECT COMPOSITE STUBS.

AND YOU CAN SEE THE OTHER ACTIVITY WE'VE INCLUDED ON PAGES FOUR AND FIVE.

THEY PLEDGE SECURITIES LISTINGS.

AND AGAIN, WE PERIODICALLY RELEASE FROM THAT, UH, AT THE REQUEST OF AMERICAN NATIONAL AS THEY, UH, HAVE TRADING ACTIVITY IN THAT PORTFOLIO.

AND THEN THEY REPLACE, UH, SECURITIES TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ALWAYS HAVE ADEQUATE COLLATERAL.

UH, THEN WE'VE GOT THE TWO, UH, PAGES OF THE, UH, JANUARY RECEIPTS AND DISBURSEMENTS.

THEN TWO PAGES OF FEBRUARY RECEIPTS AND DISBURSEMENTS, AND TWO PAGES OF LARGE RECEIPTS AND DISBURSEMENTS.

AGAIN, ALL TYING BACK.

UH, AND FOR THE FOLKS IN THE AUDIENCE, YOU KNOW, THE, THE NUMBERS ARE, UH, TOUGH.

WE'RE, I'M STILL WORKING ON THE TECHNOLOGY, BUT WE'RE GOING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.

OKAY.

SO WE'LL GET, UH, SO THAT YOU CAN READ MORE AND FOLLOW EASIER AS WE GO THROUGH.

UM, THEN TIME KEEPS MARCHING ON, UM, FROM THE TIME WE SUBMITTED THIS PACKET.

AND I JUST, UH, UH, WANTED TO SHARE, UM, I GOT THIS FOLDED OPEN AT, UH, THE NEXT PAGE OF OUR SCREEN.

AND, UH, UNDER OUR OTHER ACTIVITY, WE, UM, HAD LEARNED THAT, UM, THE OUTBOUND WIRE LIMITS FOR CERTAIN ACCOUNTS THAT HAD WIRE TRANSFERS WAS LIKE $35 MILLION A DAY, $34 MILLION A DAY.

AND THAT WAS THE TOTAL EXPOSURE FOR THE COUNTY.

SO WE, UH, TOOK A PROJECT TO CHANGE THOSE DAILY I FILE WIRE LIMITS AND WE'VE HIDDEN THE ACCOUNT NUMBERS, BUT YOU CAN SEE THE ACCOUNT DESCRIPTIONS AND THE NEW LIMIT MATCHES THE ACTIVITY THAT WE DO IN THAT ACCOUNT.

WE, WE SEND OUT THAT MUCH MONEY WHEN WE DO WIRE OUT OF THOSE ACCOUNTS.

SO I WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW ABOUT SECURITY ENHANCEMENT.

UM, YOUR NEXT PAGE IN, IN THIS, UH, UH, ADDENDUM PACKET IS A LIST OF ACCOUNTS THAT WE ADDED, UH, POSITIVE PAY FEATURES TO AND THAT NOTHING, UM, IS GOING TO COME OUT OF, UH, THESE ACCOUNTS.

I THINK THIS SLIDE, UH, MAY NOT HAVE MADE THE PRESENTATION ON THE SCREEN.

UH, SO WE ADDED TO THESE ACCOUNTS POSITIVE PAY FEATURES SO THAT NOTHING IS GOING TO, UH, BE DISPERSED FROM THIS ACCOUNT UNLESS, UH, THE AUDITOR STAFF HAS UPLOADED A PAYMENT FILE.

SO ON, ON AP ACCOUNT AND ON PAYROLL ACCOUNTS, HISTORICALLY WE HAVE TOLD THE BANK, HEY, WE'VE ISSUED THESE CHECKS.

YOU CAN CLEAR THESE CHECKS.

WE'VE ADDED, UH, UH, APOLOGIZE, Y'ALL CAN'T SEE THIS.

WE'VE ADDED ABOUT 20 ACCOUNTS TO THAT ROUTINE.

AND ANYTIME YOU'RE UNDERGOING IMPROVEMENTS, THERE'S SOMETIMES SOME UNINTENDED GLITCHES.

SO THE NEXT PAGE, UM, SHOWS YOU THAT WE HAD A, UM, ON, UH, THE PAYROLL FROM THREE WEEKS AGO, OUR E-F-T-P-S PAYMENT HAD NOT BEEN ON A POSITIVE PAY NOTIFICATION TO THE BANK.

SO IT DIDN'T CLEAR.

AND, UH, JUDGE WOOD STAFF SENT THIS LETTER, THIS NOTICE OVER TO US EARLY LAST WEEK.

THE E-F-T-P-S PAYMENT WAS MADE.

UH, WE'LL GET A LETTER FROM THE IRS AFTER WE FILE OUR 9 41 AND THEY'LL WANT A LITTLE BIT OF INTEREST AND THEY'LL WANT SOME PENALTIES, BUT WE'RE QUALIFIED FOR THE PENALTY RELIEF ON THAT.

SO WE WILL HAVE INTEREST FOR 10 DAYS OR 11 DAYS THAT THIS E-F-T-P-S HAD INADVERTENTLY BEEN REJECTED.

THIS SYSTEM IS SET UP SO THAT, UH, WE RECEIVED TELEPHONE NOTIFICATIONS THAT SOMETHING HAS BEEN PRESENTED THAT'S NOT ON POSITIVE PAY.

AND, UM, AND IN THIS, UH, STRESS, THIS TEST RUN, IT DIDN'T QUITE HAPPEN THAT WAY.

UM, BUT I WANTED TO BE, UH, JUST STRAIGHT UP AND LET Y'ALL KNOW THAT THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WILL GET RESOLVED.

UH, THE NEXT PAGE, I WANTED TO LET THE COURT KNOW, UH, WE RECEIVE MONEY EACH MONTH FROM OUR, UH, AMERICAN TRAFFIC SOLUTIONS.

SO HERE'S ONE OF THOSE RECEIPTS AND HERE I'M LETTING YOU KNOW THAT, UH, FROM INSTRUCTIONS FROM THE AUDITOR, UH, THE TREASURY STAFF IS REPORTING REVENUE HERE OF 19,000,245, UH, 19,000, EXCUSE ME, 3 45.

THE A TS IS RETAINING ITS FEES FOR THAT MONTH OF 81 0 5 AND WE'RE DEPOSITING THE BALLOTS.

WHAT THE

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CASH RECEIPT ACTUALLY IS IS 11 249 AND I JUST WANTED TO LET 11 MILLION, I'M GOING WITH YOUR NUMBER 11,000 2 49 9.

DON'T WRITE A CHECK.

DON'T WRITE A CHECK.

THEN, UH, AND THEN LETTING YOU SEE ON THE NEXT PAGE, UH, THERE'S THAT, UH, DEPOSIT SHOWING UP AT THE BANK.

THAT'S WHAT WE SEE AT THE BANK WHEN WE CHECK OUR BANK ACCOUNT.

AND, UH, I REALLY APPRECIATE Y'ALL'S TIME.

I APPRECIATE Y'ALL'S INDULGENCE ON THE LESS THAN ADEQUATE, UH, DISPLAY QUALITY.

WE'RE WORKING, WE'RE GOING TO GET BETTER.

AND, UM, WE GOT ALL MONTH TO SOLVE OUR TECHNICAL ISSUES HERE.

BEFORE YOU SIT DOWN, YOU NEXT ON REPORT.

ANY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? YOU HAVE A MOTION FROM MR. SHANE TO ACCEPT THE TREASURE REPORT FOR MARCH, 2016, 18.

SECOND, SECOND, COMMISSIONER, ANY QUESTIONS ON FAVOR, SAY AYE.

OPPOSED? YOU'D LIKE TO MOVE ON? REPORT.

REPORT? YES.

AND, AND JUDGE I QUARTERLY REPORT IS PAGE TWO OF YOUR HANDOUT WHERE AGAIN, WE'VE JUST RECAPPING AGAIN.

WE STARTED THE QUARTER WITH, UH, JANUARY 1ST WITH 1,000,002 42 0 7 TO 6 71.

WE HAD RECEIPTS OF 25 MILLION 1 17 8 36 54.

WE'VE HAD DISBURSEMENTS OF 11 MILLION OH 14 365 15 WITH AN ENDING BALANCE OF 15 MILLION 3 45, 5 48 10.

AND HERE ON THIS QUARTERLY REPORT, I'LL ADD THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'VE STILL GOT, UM, 11 MILLION 561 2 15 72 OF THAT INITIAL ROAD BOND ISSUE.

SO WHAT JUDGE ARE WE ABOUT TWO THIRDS OF THE WAY DOWN ON THAT? SOMETHING LIKE THAT BEFORE WE SELL THE REMAINING, RIGHT? YEAH, RIGHT.

AND I THINK ALL OF THAT MONEY IS BEING RETAINED IN LIQUID CASH, UH, ANTICIPATING THAT IT, IT COULD BE NEEDED IMMEDIATELY.

AND AGAIN, AS WE HAD RUN THROUGH IN THE ABOUT THREE REPORTS, YOU'VE GOT YOUR, UH, UH, DISBURSEMENT REPORTS IN THERE FOR EACH MONTH.

ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS? RESPOND TO ANY QUESTIONS ON UH, ON NUMBER SEVENTH PART, PART OF THE REPORT? MR. MAKE A MOTION TO ACCEPT MR. SHANE PHILLIPS SECOND MOTION.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

THANK.

THANK YOU JUDGE.

THANK YOU.

CHARLES WHITAKER IS HERE.

CHARLES' LIKE TO COME UP AND, UH, MAKE YOUR PRESENTATION OF THE JIM, I APOLOGIZE FOR PROBLEM FUEL, PROBLEM GAS.

AND FIRST WE UH, I LIKE TO PRESENT, UH, KAUFFMAN COUNTY PRECINCT TO COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS, UH, WITH THE RECYCLING EFFORTS THAT YOUR PRECINCT DID IN 2015.

NOW YOU DO HAVE SOME ADVANTAGES, MAYBE DEMOGRAPHICS AND LIES OVER SOME PRECINCT, BUT UH, AS FAR AS ANY ENTITY, GOVERNMENT, UH, PRIVATE OR WHATEVER PRECINCT TWO RECYCLED 106,250 POUNDS IN 2015 OF RECYCLED MATERIAL.

I'D LIKE TO PRESENT THIS TO YOU AT THAT TIME.

AT THIS TIME, YEAH, IF YOU DON'T MIND, WE GET THROUGH THE DISCUSSION ABOUT THE, UH, THE OTHER ITEM THAT WE HAVE.

THE NEXT ITEM IS THE NUMBER EIGHT, UH, TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER RENEW SERVICE CONTRACT WITH INNOVATIVE TRANSPORTATION SOLUTIONS, UH, INCORPORATING ITS AND COUNTY CONSULTATION SERVICE.

I BELIEVE YOU HAVE A COPY OF THE CONTRACT FROM JOHN HOLSTER.

IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTION THAT, THAT I'LL ENTERTAIN.

MOTION TO ACCEPT.

MOTION APPROVE.

HAVE MOTION.

SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER SHANE.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSIONS? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

A AYE.

OPPOSED? NEXT ITEM IS TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER APPROVING A SUPPLEMENTAL AGREEMENT, UH, NUMBER ONE BETWEEN COUNTY AND MICHAEL BAKER INTERNATIONAL US RELOCATION PROJECT.

I BELIEVE THERE WAS SOME ADDITIONAL ENGINEERING WORK THAT HAD TO BE DONE ON THAT.

AND YOU HAVE A COPY OF THAT, UH, AGREEMENT.

LOOKS LIKE IT WAS MAINLY SIGNAL

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ADDITIONAL ILLUMINATION.

UH, COMMISSIONER WHAT I MAKE MOTION.

WE HAVE A MOTION FROM UH, COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS.

DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND COMMISSIONER, UH, SECOND MOTION.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

ITEM NUMBER 10 IS TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACCEPTING ROADS IN, UH, THE SHADOW LAKE SUBDIVISION INTO THE COUNTY ROAD MAINTENANCE SYSTEM, UH, KAMAN COUNTY PRECINCT NUMBER THREE.

THIS WAS, UH, I BELIEVE COMMISSIONER SHINE, UH, UH, AFTER COUNCIL THIS MORNING.

CHIEF HAS A COUPLE OF THINGS SHE WANTS CLARIFY AND THEN WE'LL BRING THIS BACK TO COURT.

SO I WOULD LIKE TO TABLE THIS MOTION.

SO YOU'D LIKE TO TABLE, UH, ITEM NUMBER 10 OR FURTHER.

AND JUDGE YOU CAN SEND IT FOR THE NEXT COURT DATE.

THAT WOULD BE GREAT.

NEXT COURT DATE.

JUST SOME THINGS YOU WANT TO CLEAN UP.

I BELIEVE WE'VE GOTTEN A CONTACT FROM THE, UM, DEVELOPER AND HE'S MADE AN ADDITIONAL PROMISE IN REGARDS TO REPAIRING WEATHER, THE CUL-DE-SAC ROADS.

SO WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE GET THAT IN WRITING FIRST BEFORE WE, SO, UH, WE PUT THAT FORM MOTION.

WE HAVE UH, COMMISSIONER SHANE WHO MADE THAT MOTION.

WE HAVE A SECOND.

SECOND, UH, COMMISSIONER ALLEN SECOND'S.

A MOTION, UH, MOTIONS TO TABLE.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

A OPPOSED BOTH.

AND I KNOW WE HAVE, UH, I BELIEVE, UH, MR. UH, SYLVIE YES, UH, IS HERE TO TALK THIS MORNING ABOUT THAT IT HAS BEEN TABLED FOR CLARIFICATION FROM THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AND IT'LL BE BACK ON OUR NEXT AGENDA.

SO I WANT TO BE, UH, AWARE OF THAT.

ALRIGHTY, UH, ITEM NUMBER 11 IS TO, UH, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACCEPTANCE 1 0 9 C UH, APPROXIMATELY 1400, WELL PROBABLY NOT APPROXIMATELY, BUT 1,430 INTO THE COUNTY ROAD MAINTENANCE SYSTEM IN KAUFMAN COUNTY PRECINCT.

UH, ONE COMMISSIONER ROSA ASSET.

WE DISCUSSED THAT.

YEAH, THIS, THIS 1 0 9 C HAS WAS ON THE ROAD REPORT FOR MANY, MANY YEARS BEFORE I CAME IN OFFICE.

AND THE FIRST YEAR I INCLUDED ON THE ROAD REPORT, I WASN'T AWARE THAT THERE WAS AN OFFICIAL COUNTY ROAD LIST, UH, THAT WAS DONE BY THE LAW FIRMS AND THEY DID THE OFFICIAL MAP.

WELL, IT WASN'T ON THE OFFICIAL LIST, BUT IT'S UH, IT'S BEEN THERE, IT'S HAD A SIGN ON FOREVER.

IT GOES TO KAISER CEMETERY, WHICH, YOU KNOW, WE'RE KIND OF, UH, OBLIGATED TO KEEP THE ROADS OPEN GOING TO THE CEMETERY.

SO, UH, LAST YEAR I TOOK IT OFF OF MY ROAD REPORT BECAUSE IT WASN'T ON THE OFFICIAL LIST WITH THE HELP GAUGE AND, UH, COUNSEL, UH, WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF, WELL I GUESS WILL BE RELOADED ON THE MAP NEXT TIME WE REDO A MAP.

BUT THE ROAD NEEDS REPAIRED SO PEOPLE CAN GET TO THE CEMETERY.

SO I WANTED TO GET IT, UM, TAKEN IN SO I CAN REPAIR IT AND IT WILL BE ON MY ROAD REPORT.

AND I THINK SHE, UM, THE ONLY COMMENT I WOULD MAKE IS JUST BE, TO BE REALLY SPECIFIC FOR THE RECORD, OUR COUNTY MAP, UM, HAS IT DRAWN IN ON THE WRONG ROAD.

IT RUNS PARALLEL TO WHERE ACTUAL 1 0 9 C IS.

BUT WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE COUNTY ROAD MAP LIST, THE ROADS, IT'S NOT ACTUALLY ON THERE.

SO IT'S IN ONE PLACE BUT NOT ON THE OTHER.

AND SO WHAT HE'S TRYING TO DO NOW IS ADD IT TO THE LIST AND THEN VERIFY WHERE IT IS ON THE MAP.

BUT UH, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IT A LOT AND THE PROCEDURES TO ACTUALLY REDO THE ENTIRE COUNTY MAP ARE EXTREME AND THEY TELL YOU QUITE A BIT OF TIME.

SO WHEN WE EVENTUALLY DO THAT, WE WANT IT EARMARKED THIS ROAD AND KIND OF FLAG THE MAP THAT GAGE IS PREPARED.

SO WHEN YOU GUYS ACCEPT IT, IF YOU CAN ACCEPT THIS UH, MAP AS AN EXHIBIT TWO, THAT'D BE GREAT.

THAT WAY IT'S FLAGGED.

WE DON'T FORGET ABOUT IT.

ANYBODY HAVE ANY, ANY QUESTIONS? JUST CLEANING UP.

SAY YEAH, CLARIFY IT ON THE HISTORICAL, THE CEMETERY.

IS IT ON THE HISTORICAL, THE CEMETERY? YEAH, BECAUSE IF IT IS WE HAVE TO BY STATE LAW ANYWAY, HAVE I'M SURE IT IS THAT CEMETERY'S BEEN THERE.

18.

YEAH, IT'S OVER 50 YEARS CEMETERY 50 YEARS WE ARE IN, IT IS EL COUNTY.

WE ARE, WE CAN EXPEND MONEY TO MAINTAIN IT AND ALSO TRY TO HAVE A MAKE MOTIONS ACCEPT COUNTY GO 1 0 9 C UH, WITH THE INCLUDING OF EXHIBIT EXHIBIT A AS THE NEW DOCUMENT SHOWING THE LOCATION.

WE HAVE A MOTION, UH, FOR OUR COMMISSIONER.

COMMISSIONER RESOLVE TO APPROVE ADDING THIS UH, 14 TO THE PHILLIPS DISCUSSION.

ALL SAY AYE.

AYE.

OPPOSED? ITEM NUMBER 12 IS TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER CLOSING THE HOUSEHOLD HAZARDOUS WASTE AT THE

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ECO STATION.

COMMISSIONER ALLEN, YOU HAVE DISCUSSED THIS.

I THINK CHARLES WHITAKER IS, IS CHARLES HE STILL HERE? YES, STILL HERE.

I KNOW YOU HAVE A, AN INTEREST IN THIS I THINK.

UH, CHARLES AS WELL.

SO JAKE YOU WANNA GO AHEAD? YEAH, WELL WE'RE HAVING SUCH A PROBLEM WITH TCEQ ON THIS THING.

REPORTS WE FOUND LAST YEAR HAD NOT BEEN SUBMITTED.

THEY WANT 'EM A QUARTER REPORT AND THEY HAVEN'T DONE IN LONG, LONG TIME.

AND SO WE HAD 'EM COME OUT AND NOW THERE'S ONLY A COUPLE PEOPLE WHO COME OUT AND PICK UP THEIR HAZARD, THEIR HAZARD WASTE.

LAST YEAR WE SPENT $5,725 JUST PICKING THAT STUFF UP AND VERY LITTLE THERE AND MOST OF IT'S AEROSOL SPRAY CANS, UH, FERTILIZER STUFF THAT'S REALLY NOT THAT THEY'RE ON THEIR LIST.

OKAY.

BUT IT IS A WHOLE LOT OF MONEY.

SO WE DID SOME CALLING AROUND AND I SAID, CALL MESQUITE GARLAND, DALLAS, GARLAND, MESQUITE SENDS THEIR TO DALLAS AND THERE'S A $95 MINIMUM CHARGE.

IF IT'S UNDER 25 POUNDS, IT GOES OVER 25 POUNDS.

THEN THERE'S ANOTHER FEE ON TOP OF THAT.

SO MY REQUEST IS NOT TAKE IT SEND TO DALLAS OR WAS WHO'S GOING TO PAY THE $95? 'CAUSE MOST PEOPLE GOING TO CHUNK IT IN THE ROAD AND THEY'RE GOING TO PICK IT UP AND HAVE TO CALL IT OFF.

I MEAN THIS IS REALLY A LOSING PROPOSITION FOR THE FOREST FINANCIAL.

DO YOU THINK PEOPLE WOULD TAKE IT TO DALLAS OR NO? THROW IT ON THE ROAD.

PICK IT UP.

WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE IS JUST, JUST PICKING IT UP AT PEOPLE PLACE OR PICKING IT UP THE ROAD.

IT'S PROBABLY EASIER TO BE IN ONE SPOT.

SOMEBODY MIGHT USE A FERTILIZER.

NOT FOR MOST PEOPLE THROW THEIR SPRAY INS AND GARBAGE ANYWAY.

CHARLES, WOULD YOU LIKE TO COME UP AND GIVE US YOUR PERSPECTIVE ON THIS? NOT REALLY, BUT .

OKAY.

WHAT DO YOU WANT MY PERSPECTIVE TO BE? WELL, RIGHT NOW THE RECYCLING, YOU DO ACCEPT HAZARDOUS WASTE.

GIVE US, SO JUST KIND OF TELL US WHAT YOU DO AND WHAT YOU DON'T DO.

ALL WE DO IS RECYCLE.

OKAY.

AND WE RECYCLE ALL FORMS OF PLASTIC, ALL FORMS OF CARDBOARD AND PAPER, UH, AND METAL ALUMINUM.

THAT'S ALL WE RECYCLE.

UH, WE DO NOT TAKE HAZARDOUS WASTE.

NOW TO BE PERFECTLY HONEST, THERE'S TIMES WHEN PEOPLE WILL BRING US PAINT, YOU KNOW, AND WE'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO TAKE IT, BUT WE USE THE PAINT FOR OUR OWN MAINTENANCE AND STUFF LIKE THAT.

BUT, UH, WE CAN'T TAKE HAZARD WASTE.

UM, UM, AND AS FAR AS THE COUNTY, YOU KNOW, I'D LIKE TO HEAR FROM Y'ALL WHAT THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT, YOU KNOW, WHAT INVOLVEMENT, YOU KNOW, YOU MIGHT WANT US TO HAVE IT BECAUSE UM, UH, YOU KNOW, WE ARE RECYCLED AND UM, WE'RE UNDERFUNDED NOW.

THAT IS THE, NO, WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT BUDGET.

RIGHT.

, IT SEEMS LIKE MONEY ALWAYS COMES UP.

I MEAN, YOU KNOW, WHETHER IT'S YOUR WIFE OR YOUR DAUGHTERS OR THE UH, THE ENVIRONMENTAL CO-OP MONEY'S ALWAYS THE FIRST TIME, RIGHT? SO, UM, AND THIS ISN'T BUDGET HONORS EITHER FOR HAVING WASTE, SO, WELL, UH, IT IT'S WHAT IT IS.

WELL, MOST OF 'EM ARE CITY.

I MEAN MOST OF THEM.

A CITY THAT HAS A A CITY CONTRACT WILL HAVE A, A DAY A YEAR OR TWO DAYS A YEAR, WHATEVER, BANK CAN BRING IT IN AND THEN THEY HAVE A WASTE.

SO BECAUSE THEY HAVE, I DON'T KNOW, PROFESSIONAL TRASH COME IN THERE ALL IN AND OFF.

DOES COFFMAN HAVE SOMETHING LIKE THAT? UH, WE DON'T, I DON'T THINK SO.

I MEAN I KNOW GARLAND DOES.

I KNOW, I KNOW DALLAS DOES WITHOUT EVEN THE DOUBT.

THEY'VE GOT STATION.

YOU CAN TAKE IT TO CAROL THERE.

FARMER BRANCH HAS ONE AND WE SEND IN THE WEBSITE THAT TELLS ALL THE LOCATIONS THAT TAKE HERITAGE WASTE.

IT'S ON THEIR TCE Q'S WEBSITE.

YEAH.

OKAY.

HERE IN A COUPLE WEEKS WE'VE GOT, IS IT THE 13TH AND 14TH? 14TH.

13 14TH.

UM, COUNTYWIDE CLEANUP.

SO HOW, UH, I MEAN EVEN WITH HAZARDS WASTE, HOW ARE Y'ALL GONNA DEAL WITH THAT? WE DON'T TAKE IT.

WE DON'T TAKE IT.

AND, YOU KNOW, UH, WORKING WITH THE COUNTY AT COMMISSIONER SHANE'S LOCATION 4 29, WE HAVE CONTAINERS OUT THERE THAT TAKE THE REC RECYCLING MATERIAL, UH, PLASTIC METAL, STUFF LIKE THAT, A CARDBOARD, AND THEN THE FOLKS GO ON AND DUMP THE RED.

UH, AND WE'VE DONE THAT FOR A COUPLE YEARS NOW.

I BELIEVE SO.

AND SO THAT'S HOW WE

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HELP IN THAT REGARD.

WE TAKE THE RECYCLING MATERIAL.

BUT, UH, I GUESS MY QUESTION TO Y'ALL IS HOW DO YOU THINK WE, THE ENVIRONMENTAL CO-OP FIGURE INTO THE HAZARDOUS WASTE SITUATION, ARE THERE ANY GRANTS AVAILABLE THAT YOU LOOK INTO? WELL, MS. PAN COUNTY, YOU UH, EXCUSE ME, MAY I OUT HERE, WHEN WE SET THIS UP, MARILYN MAYS GOT A GRANT FOR THAT, UH, AS WASTE BUILDING AND WE BUILT IT.

NOW, I'M, I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE RULES ARE ON, IF YOU GET SOMETHING WITH A GRANT THEN YOU DO AWAY WITH IT.

IS THERE A TIMEFRAME? A BUDGET THAT YEAH, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO FEED THE COST AFTERWARDS.

'CAUSE WHEN THE GRANT RUNS OUT, WHERE YOU GONNA DO WITH A PROGRAM? WELL IT'S JUST A ONE TIME GRANT JUST TO BUILD A BUILDING.

YEAH.

SEE THERE'S A LOT OF REQUIREMENTS FOR THAT BUILDING AND WHERE IT HAS TO, YOU JUST CAN'T PUT IT ANYWHERE.

IT HAS TO BE A CERTAIN DISTANCE AWAY FROM EVERYTHING, MAN.

IT DEPENDS ON WHAT IT IS.

EVERYTHING.

AND THEN THEY HAVE TO KNOW WHAT IT'S, I MEAN, PEOPLE BRING IN CHEMICALS, YOU HAVE NO CLUE WHAT THEY OFFER.

WELL THAT'S A SPECIAL BUILDING.

EXCEPT, EXCEPT FOR HAZARDOUS WASTE.

THAT'S RIGHT.

CLOSING PROOF AND EVERYTHING.

YOU KNOW, GRANTS THAT WE MAY COME UP WITH WOULD DEAL WITH PROBABLY ILLEGAL DUMPING AND STUFF LIKE THAT.

UH, SPECIFICALLY HAZARDOUS WASTE.

AND I DON'T KNOW HAS, UH, PAM, I DON'T, HAVE YOU DISCUSSED ANY OF THIS WITH HER FRIENDS OVER IN ? I I CAN DO THAT.

I RECALL.

AND THEN MR. LER SAID HE RECALLS AT ONE TIME AT THE SHOW GROUNDS LIKE ONCE A YEAR THERE WAS A HOUSEHOLD HAZARDOUS WASTE UH, EVENT AND MAYBE IT WAS A GRANT.

AND MAYBE WE CAN LOOK INTO THAT, THAT MAYBE AT LEAST ONCE, ONE TIME A YEAR WE CAN HAVE AN EVENT THAT WOULD BE GOOD.

THAT WE CAN DO THAT IF WE FIND FUNDING.

YEAH, THERE WAS ONE STARTED YEARS AGO AND THE GRANT STARTED YEARS AGO AND THAT'S WHEN GARLAND STARTED THERE AND IT WAS A BIG MAJOR DEAL AND I THINK THE STATE OF TEXAS CAME IN LIKE HALF A MILLION DOLLARS TO START THAT 'CAUSE THEY DIDN'T HAVE ONE.

BUT GARLAND'S A BIG, I THINK WE DO NEED TO WORKSHOP IN THE MEANTIME HELPING CONTRACTOR AND TRASH COMPANIES THAT ARE CONTRACTED.

MAYBE WE CAN GET SOMEBODY THAT'S A COMMISSIONER, WHAT PAM'S TALKING ABOUT.

UH, EVEN THINK ABOUT UM, DOING IT THE SAME TIME WE'RE DOING THE COUNTYWIDE CLEANUP OR WHATEVER.

SURE.

AND KAUFMAN, UH, I THINK YOU CAN SAY CENTRALLY, YOU KNOW, THE COUNTY SEATS AND THE CENTER OF THE COUNTY IS INCORPORATE THE HAZARD WASTE PICKUP.

UH, THE SAME TIME YOU DO THE COUNTYWIDE PICKUP WHERE THE PEOPLE KNOW DIFFERENT PLACES.

JUST ONE PLACE FOR HAVING, UH, WE WILL HELP ALL WE CAN AS FAR AS FURNISHING LABOR AND UH, UH, MAYBE SOME EQUIPMENT WE USE SOME KIND EQUIPMENT AND SOME OF OURS AND WE CAN GET SOME HELP IF IT'S NOT GRANTS FROM THE LOCAL COMPANIES AND STUFF TO HELP PAY FOR OUR LABOR PAY.

WE'VE GOT TO FIGURE OUT TWO.

I MEAN, HOW, YOU KNOW, HOW BIG IS THIS GONNA BE? YEAH, I MEAN WE CAN'T BRING A COUPLE TRAILERS OUT THERE AND EXPECT WELL YOU ADVERTISE IT AND I'M TELLING YOU IT'S GOING BE BIG.

EVERY COUNTY AROUND HERE IS GOING TO SHIP THEIR STUFF OVER TO US.

I MEAN PROOF OF YEAH, WELL CERTAINLY THERE'S SOME STATE ASSISTANCE I WOULD ASSUME SOMEWHERE.

UH, OR I DON'T, I MEAN WE CAN CHECK.

YEAH.

AND WHAT ABOUT ELECTRONIC? WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS TOO, I KNOW YOU DO THAT AND IT'S RECYCLABLE I BELIEVE.

YES, YES.

WE'VE HAD, YOU KNOW, THINGS HAVE CHANGED RECENTLY WE GOT WITH ECSA COMPANY THAT IS REALLY WORKING WITH US BECAUSE ALL KINDS OF DIFFERENT THINGS FROM, YOU KNOW, THE ECONOMY IN CHINA AND HERE AND EVERYTHING ELSE.

WE CAN ACCEPT A LOT OF ELECTRONICS.

A FEW MONTHS AGO WE COULD, YOU KNOW, AND WE'RE DOING ALL WE CAN.

WE HAVE AN ACCEPTABLE YES AND UNACCEPTABLE.

YES.

IF SOMEBODY CALLS US, UH, WE HAVE ELECTRONIC EVENTS.

IN FACT WE HAD ONE IN, UH, GRAND SALINE THIS PAST SATURDAY.

SO WE UH, IN CONJUNCTION WITH WHAT'S GOING ON IN A COUPLE WEEKS, COUNTYWIDE CLEANUP HERE IN KAUFMAN.

WE'VE GOT A PAPER SHREDDING ELECTRONICS EVENT, UH, GOING ON IS THAT WE CALL AND THE SOUTH SOUTH, YEAH.

SOUTH.

YEAH.

I CALL IT THE OLD JAIL.

BUT SOUTH DO THING ON CLEANUP DAY, ON ON CLEANUP DAYS, WE HAVE, WHEN THE CLEANUP DAY WE'LL HAVE IN PRECINCT THREE OUT THERE.

YOU KNOW, WE TAKE RECYCLING MATERIALS, PEOPLE COME IN, UH, AND THEN COFFMAN WILL HAVE THE PAPER SHREDDING ELECTRONICS EVENT GOING UP.

SO PLAIN ENOUGH.

OR SATURDAY NOW FRIDAY GO UP DOESN'T DO A WHOLE LOT.

WE GET SET UP AND STUFF, BUT SATURDAY WE'RE OUT THERE PRECINCT THREE ALL DAY LONG.

YEAH.

OKAY.

WELL I DO THINK IT'S SOMETHING WE NEED TO, YOU KNOW, I AND AND COMMISSIONER, I UNDERSTAND WHAT, YOU KNOW, WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

IT'S MAYBE WE SHOULD AND IT'S, YOU KNOW, IF I YEAH, IT'S UH, AND I GUESS MY QUESTION AND THEN WILL BE SOMETHING WE'LL TRY TO COME BACK IN WORKSHOP.

IS THAT SOMETHING THAT THE ENVIRONMENTAL CO-OP WOULD BE INTERESTED

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IN WORKING WITH US ON TO TAKE OVER? UH, HAZARDOUS PROVIDED, I MEAN MAKE THEM PROVIDED, PROVIDED FROM THE GENERAL TERM PROVIDED.

WELL AND I MADE YEAH, I UNDERSTAND.

WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO HELP UH, FUND IT.

UH, I'M SURE, BUT WE'RE ALREADY DOING SOME OF THAT WITH UH, WHAT WE'VE DONE DOWN AT PRECINCT FOUR.

THAT COULD BE YES.

AGREE.

WE COULD SHIFT IT TO THE ENVIRONMENTAL CO-OP.

IT'D BE UP TO YOU AND YOUR BOARD IF YOU WISH TO.

RIGHT.

UH, WE'RE APPRECIATIVE OF ALL THE COUNTY DUST RESIDENTS NOW AS YOU AS EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE CO-OP, UH, IT'S NEVER GONNA BE ENOUGH.

RIGHT, BECKY, BUT TRUE.

YOU KNOW, WE APPRECIATE, YOU KNOW, THE FUNDING AND I THINK WE CAN SHOW THAT, YOU KNOW, NOT THAT MANY YEARS AGO UNDER A DIFFERENT COMMISSIONER'S COURT, YOU KNOW, WE WERE GETTING JUST ABOUT AS MUCH MONEY FOR EDUCATIONAL STUFF AS WE ARE FOR, YOU KNOW, THE WHOLE TOTAL UH, RECYCLING BILL AND EVERYTHING.

NOW WHAT I THINK SOME OF THAT WAS A GRANT MR. GRANT.

RIGHT? WELL I'D LIKE TO HAVE A WORKSHOP, BUT I'D LIKE FOR Y'ALL AS A COMMISSIONER'S COURT TO SAY WE WOULD LIKE FOR THE ENVIRONMENTAL CO-OP TO LOOK AT DOING THIS, TO LOOK AT DOING THAT OR WHATEVER AND I TAKE IT TO MY BOARD AND I GET APPROVAL AND THEN, YOU KNOW, WE'LL SEE WHAT WE CAN DO.

OKAY.

WE MEET ONCE A MONTH.

WE HAVE AN EXECUTIVE BOARD ONCE A MONTH AND, AND A RECORD BOARD ONCE A MONTH.

OKAY.

ALRIGHT.

I THINK THAT WOULD BE A, A GOOD IDEA TO SEE WHAT WE CAN DO TO COMBINE, UH, DO MY RECOMMENDATION THE WORKSHOP AND NOT ACT ON NO ACTION.

MOVE THAT WE TABLE.

ALRIGHT, WE HAVE A MOTION.

YOU HEARD DISCUSSION AND YOU HEARD, UH, COMMISSIONER UH, ALLEN'S DECISION TO TABLE THIS AND UH, PUT THAT IN THE FORM OF MOTION.

YES.

A SECOND.

AND WHAT I'D LIKE TO SAY THIS DOING WORKSHOP, GIVE US SOME OPTIONS TO SIT DOWN WITH, UH, CHARLES AND US REALLY WORK OUT.

WE'VE GOTTA DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT HERE.

I WAS GONNA MAKE A WHILE, UH, UH, LAST WEEK ON OUR COUNTY ROAD WE HAD TO CALL THE SHERIFF BECAUSE IF SOMEBODY DUMP THE BARREL, WELL THEY DUMPED THE BARREL HALF THE BARREL OF OIL FOR US.

SO WE HAD TO GO PICK IT UP SO WE TO LOOK AT IT TOO.

YEAH, THAT OKAY.

ALRIGHT, WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

THOSE OPPOSED? ALRIGHT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THAT WAS A GOOD DISCUSSION, KEN.

I DON'T KNOW THAT WE CAN JUST NOT DO SOMETHING.

I JUST THINK THAT'S LAURA J AND KENNETH SECOND.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

ALRIGHTY.

ITEM NUMBER 13 IS TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER AN HR POLICY REGARDING THE REHIRE OF EMPLOYEE, UH, TO TRY AND HAVE OUR POLICY MATCH WHAT TAX POLICY IS THAT ISSUE AND THAT'S, IT'S TCRS POLICY TAX DOESN'T RECOMMEND ANYTHING.

UM, TCS THE ONLY, UM, MINIMUM, SORRY, THE MINIMUM REQUIREMENT FOR TCR RS IS ONE FULL CALIBER MONTH FOR REHIRES OR UM, RETIREES OR WHATEVER.

AND WHEN I, WE ADOPTED THE POLICY WHEN I FIRST STARTED IT WAS, EXCUSE ME, I RECOMMENDED SIX MONTHS THAT KIND OF MAKES PEOPLE REALLY RETIRE INSTEAD OF JUST RETIRING FOR A MONTH AND THEN COMING BACK.

SO THERE HAS, THERE HAS TO BE, THERE'S CERTAIN STIPULATIONS WITH TCRS IS THAT THERE CANNOT BE A NOTIFIED OFFER OF SEPARATION AND THEY HAVE TO SIT OUT ONE FULL CALENDAR MONTH.

SO COMMISSIONER, WHAT ARE YOU, UH, WHAT DO YOU WANNA DO? MY PURPOSE IS, IS TO MATCH WHAT TCRS SAYS, WHICH IS WHAT FULL CALENDAR MONTH POLICY SAYS SIX MONTHS.

OKAY.

IT'S NOT A POSITION WE CAN HOLD OPEN TO BRING THAT PERSON BACK UP AND THEN GET INTO SOME, THERE'S PROGRAM, THERE'S SOME PRETTY STRICT RULES I THINK THEY HAVE IN REGARD.

SO IF THERE'S A BONAFIDE OFFER OR IF THERE'S UM, THEY DON'T PAY THAT LOCAL CARD BUT THAT EMPLOYEE HAS TO PAY TAXES AND PAY ALL THE MONEY BACK THAT THEY RECEIVE TO MADE A CONTRACT OR AN OFFER FOR THEM TO COME BACK, THEN WE CAN BE, WE CAN JEOPARDIZE LOSING OUR RETIREMENT SYSTEM.

YEAH.

SO, UH, RIGHT NOW WE'RE SAYING SIX MONTHS WE RETIRE REHIRES AND JUST CLEAN, COME BACK.

IT'S ONE FOUR POUND A MONTH.

RETIREES.

THE, OUR POLICY IS SIX MONTHS.

OKAY.

AND WHAT IS THE STATE POLICY? TCRS DOES NOT HAVE A

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POLICY.

IT'S JUST A MINIMUM REQUIREMENT IS WHAT THE CALENDAR MONTH FOR RETIREMENT? RETIREMENT OR RETIREMENT? EITHER ONE STATE, I MEAN MY OPINION OF IT, THE SIX MONTHS, THE SIX MONTHS, I DUNNO IF THEY'RE BAD MEANS THAT THEY'RE, THEY HAVE TO REALLY RETIRE BUT THEY HAVE TO THINK ABOUT RETIRING AS OPPOSED TO I CAN RETIRE AND THEN REAPPLY A MONTH.

AND EVEN IF THERE'S NOT AN OFFER, YOU'RE GONNA CHANCE BEEN GETTING RETIRED.

WELL, LAST YEAR FOR INSTANCE, THIS CASE, THIS DID HAPPEN.

I HAD THE GUY RETIRE AND THEN LATER IN THE SUMMER, IT'S LIKE THREE, FOUR MONTHS LATER I NEEDED THAT PERSON BECAUSE THEIR SKILLS AND I COULDN'T BRING THEM BACK.

BACK TO SIX MONTHS.

SIX MONTHS.

AND YOU MAY NEED 'EM FOR A MONTH OR A WEEK OR WHATEVER DURING ROAD CONSTRUCTION TIME.

SO YOU'RE TALKING PARTTIME, FULLTIME? OH NO, NO, NO.

STRICTLY A PARTTIME, PARTTIME, PARTTIME, PART-TIME SERVICE CONTRIBUTE RETIREMENT.

UNLESS THEY'RE SEASON TO PROVIDE SEASON, EMPLOYEES DO NOT HAVE TO CONTRIBUTE TO RETIREMENT SYSTEM.

BUT A PART-TIME EMPLOYEE DO.

YEAH, BUT WHAT ABOUT THE REHIRE? I MEAN IF HE RETIRES, DEPENDS ON HOW HE REHIRES HIM.

SO IF YOU CLASSIFY HIM AS JUST STRICTLY PART-TIME OR SEASONAL, BUT THE SAME DIFFERENCE TO ME.

WELL NO PART-TIME SEASONAL IS, ARE DIFFERENT.

OKAY.

SO, SO EVEN IF THEY'RE CURRENTLY OUR POLICY IS IF THEY'RE RETIRED REGARDLESS IF YOU'RE GONNA HIRE THEM SEASONAL OR PART-TIME, YOU CAN'T DO IT FOR SIX MONTHS.

SIX MONTHS.

SO IT WOULD'VE GOT ME OUT THE JAIL IS WHAT IT WOULD'VE DONE.

WELL, I MEAN I GUESS YOU COULD, YOU COULD, I GUESS THAT'S SOMETHING WE COULD CHANGE SINCE THERE'S NOT A STATE THING.

I MEAN IT'S SOMETHING YOU CAN CHANGE, BUT I DUNNO IF YOU WANNA, YOU DUNNO IF YOU'RE GETTING A PREDICAMENT.

YEAH, THAT'S, THAT'S A WHOLE, THAT'S A WHOLE NOTHER CAN OF WORK TO ASK ME.

YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST ANOTHER OPTION.

DO YOU HAVE A RECOMMENDATION FOR, MY RECOMMENDATION WAS SIX MONTHS, SO WHATEVER I'LL CHOOSE TO BE.

YEAH, TT HAS NO I TT HAS NO, UM, REQUIREMENT OR ANYTHING.

THE ONLY REQUIREMENT IS A MINIMUM WITH TCD RX.

SO THAT WAS DISCUSSION AND, BUT BASED ON WHAT REBECCA SAID, THAT'S SOMETHING WE DO NEED TO CLEAN UP.

UH, I DON'T, I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY NEED TO CLEAN IT UP AT THIS POINT.

I MEAN WE MEET THE REQUIREMENTS YOU CAN GO LOWER TOWARDS THE MINIMUM, BUT MY ONLY CONCERN WAS JUST MAKING SURE THAT THAT EMPLOYEE KNOWS I'M RETURNED.

THIS IS QUANTIFIED RETIREMENT.

YES.

NOT THAT CONDITION THAT I WILL REHIRE YOU.

DO WE HAVE ANY KIND OF PAPER THEY SIGN OR ANYTHING? WELL, DID THEY, IT'S IN OUR POLICY AND THEY SIGNED ACKNOWLEDGING THEIR POLICY.

OKAY.

SO THERE IS A RECORD OF THAT.

OKAY.

THAT SHOULD PROTECTIVE.

SO YOU'RE OKAY WITH WHERE WE ARE THEN? NO, NO MEAN, I MEAN, I MEAN THAT'S SOMETHING I GUESS PUT IT ON WORK.

WE CAN DECIDE WHETHER OR NOT WE WANT TO DO SOMETHING LIKE YOU COULD HIRE SOMEBODY BACK PARTTIME OR JUST PUT THE SEASONAL EXCEPTION IN THERE BUT NOT FULLTIME.

WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN SEASONAL AND PART-TIME SEASONAL IS YOU, YOU'RE JUST HIRED THEM FOR A SHORT AMOUNT OF TIME.

YOU CAN DO THE JOB PART-TIME IS YOU'RE, THEY'RE FILLING A PART, A PART-TIME POSITION ALL YEAR LONG THAT YOU LIKE YOUR FTE PART-TIME POSITION THERE FILLING THAT POSITION.

YEAH.

28 HOURS A WEEK.

YEAH, I MEAN YOU 20 WE DO NINE PARTTIME SUMMER HELP.

THAT'S ONLY TIME I USE PART TIME.

SO WE JUST NEED TO RECLASSIFY AS SEASON WHAT YOU CALL IT.

YOU STILL CAN HIRE FOR SIX MONTHS BUT THEY WOULD CONTRIBUTE TO THE RETIREMENT SYSTEM.

OKAY, SO THAT'S WORKSHOP.

I HOPE YOU'RE HAVING ME UP WITH ALL THESE WORKSHOPS.

ALRIGHT, WE HAVE A MOTION, UH, COMMISSIONER ALLEN TO TABLE ITEM ON 13 SECOND FOR FURTHER DISCUSSION IN THE WORKSHOP.

A SECOND.

COMM PHILLIPS, DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER DISCUSSIONS? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

OPPOSED? OPPOSED.

ALRIGHTY.

ITEM NUMBER 14 IS, UH, LISA, GLAD TO HAVE YOU BACK WITH US AND HOPE YOU'RE FEELING BETTER.

OH, I DO.

THANK YOU.

AND THIS IS DISCUSS A SUCCESSFUL BIDDER OR BIDDERS FOR WASTE HAULING, HEARING COUNTYWIDE, RESIDENTIAL.

YOU HAVE YOUR, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS HAD MUCH, UH, TIME TO REVIEW IT ON FRIDAY SINCE I GOT OUT LATE.

THE BED DIDN'T CLOSE UNTIL 10, SO TABULATION OPENING WAS 10 30, SO I THINK I GOT IT OUT .

BUT UM, AS YOU CAN SEE, WE ONLY HAD TWO RESPONDENTS LAST YEAR.

WE ONLY HAD THREE.

EVEN THOUGH

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I GOT TO LOOKING BACK AND EVEN THOUGH WE DID UH, HAVE THREE, WE, WE STILL ONLY AWARDED TWO.

AND IT'S THE SAME TWO PLAYERS.

THE ONLY RECOMMENDATION I HAVE IS TO SWAP BETWEEN, UH, GIVING CWD THREE LOCATIONS AND FERRIS TO THE SWAP.

FERRIS WOULD 'CAUSE HE COME IN AT THE LOWEST BID ON THE HALLS.

EVEN WITH THE DELIVERY CHARGE ON COMMUNITY WASTE, THEY STILL MANAGED TO COME IN LOWER ON THE PUBLIC.

NOW I KNOW THAT, UH, I THINK SOME FOLKS HAD HAD ISSUES WITH, UH, COMMUNITY WASTE IN THE PAST, BUT SOME GUY COME GIVE ME THE BIG SOY DANCE THAT THEY HAD FOR NEW PEOPLE AND HE'S ATTENTI AND BROUGHT APART AND SEEMS TO BE EAGER.

DO AFFAIRS.

UH, NO.

UH, C CW DID CORRECT.

THEY BROUGHT IN, UH, NAME WITH ME, BUT HE'S SUPPOSED TO BE NEW.

HE'S ON THAT THE TYLER MOODY, I DON'T KNOW.

I'M SURE YOU'VE DEALT WITH, HE DIDN'T CARE ONE WAY OR ANOTHER IF HE HELPED YOU OR NOT.

NO.

UH, DO YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS JUST TO KIND OF, THEY'RE NOT A CHOICE.

I MEAN THIS ISN'T EVEN THE, THE CHOICES ARE YEAH.

I MEAN, A OR B, A OR B, WHICH I MEAN OBVIOUSLY Y'ALL CAN REVIEW IT IF YOU WANTED TO SWITCH IT AROUND.

THESE ARE JUST MY RECOMMENDATIONS BASED ON THE PRICES.

I'M GOOD WITH IT.

I'M GOOD WITH, WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT FER CAN HANDLE IT.

I DID.

I I NAILED IT DOWN.

WELL, THEY CAME FOR THE BID OPENING.

BOTH VENDORS SHOWED UP FOR THE BID OPENING ALL FRIDAY, AND UH, I KIND OF, AND THEN THEY BUILD THE TURN.

MM-HMM .

VARIETY OF SATURDAY AS WE FILL THEM.

WHAT THEY SAY? .

OKAY.

I THINK C DTS GOT A LOT OF EXTRA CANS WHEN THEY LOST, UH, BRISCOE OR ONE OF 'EM.

BUT FRISCO OR ALLEN, WHICHEVER ONE OF 'EM, THEY STILL HAVE THE OTHER ONE THEY LOST.

WELL, YOU KNOW, THEY HAD TO KIND, I THINK THEY HAD A PROBLEM ON FRIDAY LAST YEAR OF BEING ABLE TO KEEP UP OR WHATEVER.

BUT THAT'S NOT SUPPOSED TO BE AN ISSUE THIS YEAR.

PLUS, I ASSUME CAN I ALSO HAD ASSUME TWO THAT MAYBE THEY DID EXCEPT DELIVERY CHARGE KNOCKED THEM OUT.

I KNOW.

I NEVER BOUGHT.

YEAH, I DON'T, I DON'T REALLY, I DON'T KNOW.

THEY'RE THE ONLY ONES THAT DOES THAT.

AND, AND ALL THE VENDORS THAT WE'VE HAD THROUGHOUT THE YEARS THAT I'VE WORKED ON THIS, THEY'RE THE ONLY ONE THAT INCLUDES SOME KIND OF DELIVERY.

YEAH.

THEY COME FROM ALL THE WAY FROM 3 43 LUKE 12 WHERE TEXAS DAY USED TO BE.

YEAH.

OUT HERE.

THAT'S A DEADHEAD CHARGE THAT PUT A LOT OF FUEL AND LABOR COSTS.

YEAH, THEY PUT TWO, THEY STACK THEM AND PUT ONE INSIDE ANOTHER.

THEY DELIVERED TWO MAKE JUST LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE CAN'T ANYTHING ABOUT IT, YOU KNOW.

WELL, I WAS PLEASED THAT THERE WERE NO LITTLE, UH, LITTLE NOTES ON THE SIDE.

SO IT WAS PRETTY CUT AND DRY.

WHAT THEY, WHAT THEY PRESENTED THIS TIME.

SO HIDDEN AGENDA.

EXACTLY.

OKAY.

WHAT'S YOUR PLEASURE ION? I MAKE A MOTION ACCEPT.

ALRIGHT, WE HAVE A MOTION.

COMMISSIONER ALLEN, COMMISSIONER SHANE, YOU SECOND IT.

UH, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR? SAY A MA'AM, YOU WANT TO GO AHEAD AND WELL, I'LL GO BACK AND WE'LL START MAKING THE COPIES AND GET THEM TO YOU.

YEAH.

WOULD YOU, AND I'D LIKE TO LISA HEAR THIS WITH YOU.

I KNOW YOU TALKED SOME OTHER COUNTIES, THIS BLUEBONNET GROUP.

WELL THE BLUE BOND IS RESOURCE, RESOURCE AND CONSERVATION GROUP THAT I SIT WITH AND WE'RE HOPING, UM, THAT THEY COME THROUGH, THEY TALKED ABOUT IT AT OUR NATIONAL CONFERENCE OR STATE CONFERENCE THAT THERE WAS SOME FUNDING FOR TIRES, A LETTER'S BEEN SENT OUT AND ANOTHER LETTER JUST ASKING AGAIN.

SO I'M WAITING TO HEAR BACK FROM THEM.

MAYBE THE MONEY WON'T COME IN RIGHT AWAY.

MAYBE THEY'LL BE MONEY LATER ON FOR YOU GENTLEMEN TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, TIRE RECYCLING.

LAST YEAR THE CO-OP HAD THE BIG TIRE RECYCLING.

SO YOU HAVE THOSE CONTAINERS AND WE WON'T HAVE THAT THIS YEAR.

SO THAT'S GONNA BE THE ONE ISSUE.

YEAH.

AND THEN THE OTHER COMMENT WAS, UH, THE GROUP WAS VERY, UH, COMPLIMENTARY.

OH, VERY.

YES.

THEY COULDN'T BELIEVE, AND THERE, SOME OF YOU WERE IN ATTENDANCE IN OUR MEETING THE YEAR BEFORE.

THEY COULDN'T BELIEVE THAT THE COUNTY ACTUALLY DID THIS.

YEAH.

AND THEY WERE VERY IMPRESSED THAT THE COUNTY DOES THIS.

AND OUR LITTLE CITY MAYOR'S GROUP, UH, YOU MIGHT TELL THEM THAT DISCUSSION TOO.

WE HAVE SOME OF OUR SMALLER COMMUNITY, WELL, LARGER TOO.

DOESN'T EVERYBODY THAT ARE MEETING A MONTHLY OR SIX QUARTERLY OUT AT THE LIBRARY AND JUST DISCUSSING, YOU KNOW, ISSUES THAT UH, UH, AFFECT ALL OF THEM.

GRANTS AND STUFF LIKE THAT.

PAM'S BEEN MEETING WITH THEM.

I NOT HAD A CHANCE TO GO OUT AND MEET WITH THEM.

AND

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THEY WERE CURIOUS ABOUT WHAT IT WAS COSTING US AND I THINK WE WERE PLEASED THAT, UH, YEAH, WE GUESSED, UH, OVER A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS WHEN YOU HAVE YOUR GENTLEMAN'S SALARY INVOLVED IN THAT AND THE COST.

SO THEY WERE VERY IMPRESSED, YOU KNOW, THAT THEY WERE VERY THANKFUL THAT WAS SO SOMETHING WRONG WITH IT.

SO I'LL, I'LL GO BACK AND WE'LL GET THE, UM, I, THE SPANISH COPY.

I'M WAITING FOR A FEW CHANGES TO BE MADE TO IT AND I'LL, WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO MAKE THE COPIES OR WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO SEND IT TO YOUR SECRETARIES AND LET THEM MAKE COPIES? OKAY.

AND THEN I'LL MAKE EXTRA COPIES AND GIVE 'EM TO THE LOCAL BUSINESSES.

AND THE YES, SIR.

I THINK BE EASIER.

I CAN GO AHEAD ONE OF THOSE AND BE ON THE WEBSITE.

WE'LL TRY TO GET IT CHAMBERS OF COMMERCE.

SO WHEN THEY HAVE ELECTRONICS AND THEY BRING ELECTRONICS TO OUR PLACE FRIDAY, WE'LL DIRECT SATURDAY.

YES.

YEAH, IT'S ON LY REFILL THE ELECTRONICS ON SATURDAY.

IT CHARLES, THEY'LL BE OPEN FRIDAY UNTIL TO TAKE THAT TOO.

YEAH.

BUT SATURDAY AT THE SOUTH CAMPUS.

SOUTH CAMPUS IN A SHREDDING EVENT.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU.

UH, LISA, BACK TO ITEM NUMBER 15 TO DISCUSS, CONSIDER ADVERTISING KAMAN COUNTY ONLINE AUCTION WITH RENEE BATES COUNTY SERVICE PROPERTY AND EQUIP.

WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS FOR ABOUT THE LAST WEEK OR SO, OR WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON IT ACTUALLY FOR SEVERAL MONTHS, BUT WE'VE GOT ON IT HARD AND HEAVY OVER THE LAST WEEK.

AND WE HAVE, UH, A LOT OF, UH, VIS FORMS, WHICH ARE THE INFORMATIONAL FORMS THAT ARE SENT TO RENEE BATES THAT THEY LIST THAT, THAT THEY'VE USED TO LIST WHAT WE'RE SELLING.

WE HAVE SOME OF THOSE THAT STILL NEED SOME, UH, TOUCH UP A LITTLE MORE INFORMATION.

I HAVE TO SEND THOSE BACK OUT.

BUT RIGHT NOW I'M JUST WANTING TO GO AHEAD AND GET THE AD RUN BECAUSE I'M, I'M PRETTY SURE WE CAN GET THIS IN ABOUT FOUR WEEKS AND MAYBE GET IT WRAPPED UP AND DONE.

AND I'VE STILL GOT A FEW THINGS THAT, UH, MAY HAVE TO PULL FROM THE AUCTION BECAUSE THEY HAVEN'T GOTTEN, UH, SOME OF THE, UH, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU REMEMBER A FEW WEEKS BACK I HAD BROUGHT WHERE THEY HAD CHANGED, UH, THE HOUSE BILLS WHERE YOU HAD TO TAKE ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING ON THE, ALL, ALL THE UH, LEASE VEHICLE.

LEASE VEHICLE, THEY CAN'T REMOTELY RESEMBLE IN ANY WAY SHAPE, FORM OR FASHION.

AND I STILL HAVE A COUPLE OF THOSE, WHICH IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT YOU GUYS.

Y'ALL COME OUT AND ON YOUR, I'VE GOT A COUPLE OF COMM CARS, BUT I REALLY DON'T KNOW EXACTLY HOW TO ADDRESS THAT.

'CAUSE THEY WERE TURNED OVER TO US.

'CAUSE SOME OF 'EM WERE GONNA SWITCH AND SWAP AND TRADE AND THEY DIDN'T.

SO WE JUST KIND OF ENDED UP WITH THEM.

SO I DON'T FULLY KNOW WHERE, WHERE TO TURN TO GET BACK.

HOW MANY DO YOU HAVE? I THINK TWO.

WE HAVE TWO THAT STILL HAS THAT NEED DECAL OUT.

THEY HAVE, THEY HAVE EVERYTHING ON THEM.

THEY'RE STILL FULLY EQUIPPED.

OKAY.

LET ME UH, SEE IF WE CAN, UH, SEE WHAT MAINTENANCE DONE.

WE CAN.

I APPRECIATE THAT.

IT'D BE NICE.

.

MM-HMM.

OKAY.

SO THEY GOT, THEY GOT LIGHT BARS AND ALL THAT ON.

UM, I DON'T REALLY, THE LIGHT BAR, THEY'VE GOT A LOT OF DECALS.

THEY STILL HAVE PUSH BUMPER, THE SPOTLIGHT, UM, THE CAGES.

SO ANYTHING YOU WANT US TO, THAT, THAT WILL COME BACK TO YOU TO GO INTO AUCTION.

THE ITEMS THAT WE TAKE OFF, YOU KNOW, THOSE, UH, SOMETIMES YOU GUYS HAVE TAKEN OFF OF YOUR VEHICLES AND KEPT TO RECYCLE OR IF IT'LL FIT, IF IT'LL FIT.

SOME OF THAT STUFF.

DEPENDS ON THE MODEL.

MM-HMM .

HOW MUCH IT CHANGES, IT WON'T FIT WELL LIKE THAT ONE CROWN BEEF THAT'S OUT THERE.

I DON'T, IT'S A DINOSAUR.

DON'T IMAGINE IT'S WE'LL LOCATE.

YOU SEE ANYTHING WE'VE GOT OUT ON OLD OCCASION, NOTHING.

OKAY.

WELL, WE'LL WHAT WE'LL DO, WE'LL JUST TAKE ALL THOSE LINES AND UH, I THINK WE CAN GET THAT DONE.

OKAY.

WELL, AND I DON'T GET YOU THE, THOSE ITEMS THAT AUCTIONED.

I REALLY DON'T KNOW.

I I I'VE NEVER AUCTIONED OFF THE, THE, I WE HAVE AUCTIONED OFF BEFORE THE ACTUAL CAGES FROM THE BACK, BUT I DON'T NEVER REMEMBER ACTUALLY AUCTIONING OFF ANY OF THE EMERGENCY LIGHTS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

NO.

WOULDN'T, I DON'T THINK THAT'S BUT THE, THE PUSH BAR.

YEAH.

MIGHT PUT THAT ON THE VEHICLE OR PICK OR SOMETHING.

SCRAP.

I DON'T THINK YOU WOULD WANT TO TAKE IT OFF AND THEN TURN AROUND AND SELL IT.

BUT THEN WE SELL IT.

YEAH.

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THIS IS AN ACTION.

WAIT, IT'S YOUR, UH, REMIND ME OR GET WITH, UH, GARY ON THERE AND SEE IF WE CAN STRIP TWO OF THESE CARS THAT NEED TO GO.

YES SIR.

WHERE ARE THEY? THEY'RE OUT OF THE SOUTH CAMPUS.

THEY'RE OUT SOUTH CAMPUS.

OKAY.

CROSS.

I KNOW.

CROSS.

I DUNNO, WE HAD TO JUMP OFF.

WE'LL HAVE TO, WE GOTTA TAKE EVERYTHING.

SPOTLIGHTS AND EVERYTHING OFF.

MR. WAS AWARE OF THAT THE OTHER DAY WAS BE HE TOOK CAR OF ALL VEHICLES THAT YOU GUYS HAD AN OPTION.

THEY JUST, THEY DIDN'T TAKE CARE OF.

WE DIDN'T ASK OTHER VEHICLES OUT THERE.

THERE'S ONLY TWO THAT STILL NEED TO VEHICLE.

VEHICLE.

ALRIGHT.

SO DO ALL OF OUR OTHER DEPARTMENTS, ARE THEY AWARE OF THIS OTHER THAN JUST THE LAW ENFORCEMENT FOLKS AND COMMISSION? HAVE WE REACHED OUT TO THEM IN CASE THEY HAVE ANYTHING THAT STILL NEEDS TO BE STRIPPED? YEAH.

OR PUT IN THE OFFICE? NO, NO, I HAVEN'T SENT OUT MASKS BECAUSE I KNOW THAT COMMISSIONER ROSA HAD INDICATED TO ME, UH, LAST WEEK THAT HE'S GOING TO TRY TO TURN AROUND AND DO ONE RIGHT QUICK AFTER SUMMER AFTER THE BC SEASON.

DIDN'T DO THAT.

SO I WOULD KIND LIKE HANDLE WHAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW BECAUSE WE'VE GOT A LOT, A LOT.

I MEAN IF, IF WE, WE HAVE STUFF OF COURSE THAT PEOPLE JUST REALLY NEED TO GO RIGHT NOW, WE'LL WE'LL DEFINITELY TAKE CARE OF IT, BUT AS OF RIGHT NOW WE'RE KIND OF JUST TRYING TO GET RID OF WHAT? CLEAR CLEAR.

THE PARKING LOT.

YEAH, WELL PARKING LOT THE JAIL CELLS.

IT LOOKS LIKE IT.

CUTE DESK BACK THERE.

AND UH, I KNOW I THINK UH, BOBBY AND NEST PAUL HELPED SOME ON THE BOOTING SOME OF THE STUFF OUT THERE ALONG WITH SOME OF THE, SOME OF OUR INMATES.

SOME HELP ON THAT.

OR THE ONLY THING THAT WE CAN USE HELP ON IS HEARING PICKUP.

WE HAVE TRIED IN THE PAST TO MAYBE ASSIGN A DAY OR MAYBE TWO DAYS IF AT ALL POSSIBLE, TO HAVE SOME FORM OF HELP, WHETHER IT BE INMATES, WHETHER IT BE COUNTY COURT, WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE, BECAUSE IT'S INEVITABLE.

SOMEBODY BIDS ON A BIG LOT.

IT'S ONE OF THOSE JAIL CELLS AND IT'S COMPLETELY PACKED FULL OF DESKS AND CHAIRS AND FILING CABINETS AND YOU GET, YOU KNOW, ONE PERSON AND THEIR GRANDSON THAT SHOWS UP TO PICK UP ALL THIS STUFF AND IT AND YOU SIT OUT THERE LITERALLY ALL DAY WAITING FOR THEM TO, SOMETIMES YOU CAN HELP EXPEDITE THAT.

YEAH.

SO COUNTY EMPLOYEES, UH, ELECTED OFFICIALS ARE ELIGIBLE TO BID ON THIS IF THEY WANNA, UH, THE ONLY DISCLAIMER I BELIEVE IS IN OUR POLICY IS FOR IF IF IT'S YOUR DEPARTMENT.

IT YOUR DEPARTMENT, YOU CAN'T BID ON THE STUFF THAT YOUR DEPARTMENT PUT.

IT'S ON THAT MOTOR SITE.

THE YOU, IT DOES HAVE BIG WIDE TIRES.

WE HAVE A MOTION TO MOTION APPROVE THE SALE AT, UH, OUR EQUIPMENT SURPLUS WITH RENEE BASE AS OUTLINED BY THE, UH, PURCHASING DEPARTMENT.

YES.

HAVE THAT.

COMMISSIONER ALLEN? I HAVE A SECOND.

I HAVE A QUESTION.

OKAY.

YOU TALKED ABOUT ADVERTISING.

HE'S SAYING APPROVE THE SALE THROUGH THEM.

WAS THERE A DIFFERENCE? I DON'T BELIEVE SO BECAUSE WE CAN'T, UNTIL WE GET THE APPROVAL TO ACTUALLY, UM, ADVERTISE.

I HAVE TO SET THE DATE WITH RENEE BATES.

I MEAN I COULD COME AND PUT IT BACK ON THE AGENDA IF I NEED TO.

ONCE WE'VE ESTABLISHED A DATE, WE'RE APPROVING IT.

SO.

DATE? DO WE HAVE A MOTION? DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND.

COMMISSIONER, UH, PHILLIPS MADE THIS SECOND MOTION.

DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

ALRIGHT, LET'S COVER ONE MORE ITEM BEFORE WE TAKE A BREAK.

16.

WHAT'S THE FIRST ONE, MS. CLEOD TO PRESENT THE AUDITOR'S MONTHLY REPORT.

UH, AND ALSO I GUESS WE CAN DO, GOT ON SIX 17TH, WELL ORDER REPORT.

AND I TOOK THESE HOME THIS WEEKEND AND TOOK THEM OVER AND, UH, UH, QUIET INFORMATION.

SOMETIMES, SOMETIMES I FEEL LIKE WE GIVE YOU TOO MUCH CONFUSING.

OVERWHELMING.

ALRIGHT, I'M ON, I'M ON.

THIS ONES WITH THE, THE GREEN AND RED.

THIS JUST GIVES YOU AN IDEA OF WHERE WE'RE SITTING AT AT,

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UH, MARCH 31ST, WHICH GIVES YOU A SIX MONTHS WORTH OF HISTORY, UH, IN THE FISCAL.

SO IT SHOULD BE AT ABOUT 50%.

UM, BUDGET IS FOR THE GENERAL FUND IS 36 MILLION, 6 38, 8 54.

REVENUES CAME IN AT 31 4 88 2 14.

YOUR EXPENDITURES ARE BUDGETED AT 36 MILLION 6 38, 8 54 TO MAKE YOU A BALANCED BUDGET THAT YOUR ACTUAL EXPENDITURE ARE 17 MILLION.

8 46, 7, 9 5.

SO IT LOOKS LIKE, UH, WE'RE PRETTY GOOD.

DO YOU HAVE SOME LINE ITEMS THAT ARE A LITTLE OVER BUDGET? YES.

'CAUSE WE PAY SOME BILLS ANNUALLY AND MONTHLY UPFRONT.

SO LIKE OUR INSURANCES AND OUR MAINTENANCE AND STUFF.

BUT IT'S, UH, NOTHING, YOU KNOW, REALLY TO BE CONCERNED ABOUT.

OKAY.

UH, IF YOU LOOK AT THE PRIOR YEAR, YEAR TO DATE, WE THOUGHT YOU'D LIKE TO SEE WHERE WE WERE LAST MARCH, 2015, JUST AS A COMPARISON.

AND, UH, WE COLLECTED, UH, A LITTLE OVER 2.3 MILLION JUST IN THE GENERAL REVENUE.

THE EXPENDITURES.

WE SPENT MAYBE 1,000,003 MORE, BUT WE DID HAVE SOME THINGS PLANNED TO GET DONE.

UH, ROAD AND BRIDGE, WE GET BUDGETED 8.1 MILLION.

YOU'VE GOTTEN IN 6000000.5.

MOST OF IT'S JUST, JUST ABOUT RIGHT ON TRACK ARE REALLY, REALLY CLOSE.

YOUR TAX REVENUES AND YOUR DELINQUENT TAX REVENUES ARE ALWAYS GONNA BE A LITTLE BIT OVER SO THEY CAN TAKE THEM OFF THEIR INCOME TAX.

SO THAT'S WHY OUR PERCENTAGE IS A LITTLE BIT HIGHER.

I GOT ONE QUESTION ON THAT.

MM-HMM .

THE, THE GROSS WAGE MAX FEES, WE DIDN'T BUDGET, UM, WE HADN'T RECEIVED ANYTHING.

IS THAT ONE OF THOSE HEARING RECEIPTS? IT'S YES.

WE, WELL, YEAH, WE GET THOSE AT A CERTAIN TIME.

OKAY.

AND, UH, USUALLY, WELL WE BUDGETED 55,000, WE GOT 41 5 LAST YEAR.

SO THAT KIND OF GIVES YOU AN IDEA OF WHAT WE MIGHT GET IF WE 55, BUT MM-HMM .

RIGHT.

BUT, BUT WE HAVE NO IDEA WHAT WE, I THINK PURPOSE OF THAT WAS WHEN WE LOOKED AT HOW MANY CARS HAD BEEN REGISTERED AND STUFF WAS QUITE A BIT MORE, IT WENT UP IT COMMON SENSE PAGE.

WE HAVE A BIG MOVE OUT.

BUT IF YOU LOOK, UH, AT YOUR TOTAL ROAD REVENUES, UM, AT THE 6.5 LAST YEAR YOU WERE AT 5.5.

SO YOU'VE GOT RECEIVED OVER A MILLION DOLLARS EXTRA AT THE, AT THE END OF YOUR SIX MONTHS.

AND SOME OF THAT'S, WE INCREASED THE, THE PROPERTY VALUES TOO.

AND JUST SO YOU KNOW, I TALKED TO CHRIS BE, UH, HE SHOULD HAVE THE PROPERTY VALUES, THE VERY FIRST PRELIMINARY PROPERTY VALUE REPORT TO US THIS WEEK.

SOON I SEND IT OUT.

SO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON, ON THIS FIRST SECTION? FIRST ONE IS THE MONTH THROUGH REPORT FROM MARCH, 2016.

ANY QUESTION FROM ANYBODY? IT'S GOOD.

I GOT LOTS OF INFORMATION, BUT I THINK IT'S HELPFUL, HELPFUL FOREST KIND OF DOING A GREAT JOB MORE.

WELL, AND WE'RE PUTTING THEM ON OUR WEBSITE SO THAT HELPS TO STAY FINANCIALLY TRANSPARENT.

UM, KW HAD A BRAINSTORM.

GO AHEAD TO GET A MOTION.

OH, SORRY.

MR. SHANE MAKES THAT MOTION.

SECOND MR. ALLEN SECONDS.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSIONS? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

THANK YOU.

SORRY JUDGE.

UH, KW HAD A BRAINSTORM AND WE'VE BEEN LOOKING AT SOME DIFFERENT WAYS OF PRESENTING FINANCIAL INFORMATION TO, SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE LAST PAGE, I THOUGHT YOU MIGHT FIND THIS INTEREST IN, WE THOUGHT WE COMPARE IT TO A DOLLAR BILL AND LET YOU KNOW WHERE YOUR, YOUR THE TAX DOLLARS ARE BEING SPENT.

YOU KNOW WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT.

UH, UM, COMMISSIONER

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PAGE.

IT'S ON THE LAST PAGE.

YEAH.

WE FORGOT TO PUT PAGE NUMBERS ON IT.

SO WE'LL, WE'LL GET THAT DONE FOR YOU.

YES.

GO TO YOUR LAST PAGE.

I JUST WANTED TO CALL THIS TO YOU OR ATTENTION AND LET YOU LOOK AT IT 'CAUSE IT'S A BUNCH OF DIFFERENT GRAPHS, PIE CHARTS AND DIFFERENT METHODS AND DIFFERENT FUNCTIONS AND CATEGORIES.

BUT, UH, PUBLIC SAFETY COST YOU ABOUT 29 CENTS OUT OF EVERY DOLLAR.

GENERAL GOVERNMENT 29 CENTS.

DEBT SERVICE, 13% INFRASTRUCTURE ENVIRONMENT, 11 CENTS JUDICIAL SYSTEM 11 CENTS, CAPITAL OUTLAYS 5 CENTS AND TRANSFERS TO OTHER FUNDS OR 2 CENTS.

SO THAT'S WHERE THAT WHOLE DOLLAR OF TAX MONEY GOES.

SO I THOUGHT THAT WAS KIND OF INTERESTING AND I LIKED IT.

SO I BELIEVE IT.

PUT IT IN THERE SO YOU COULD KIND OF SEE WHAT WAS GOING ON.

BUT WE DID THE SAME THING ON THESE SHEETS.

YOU HAVE YOUR FIRST BOX IS YOUR CURRENT FOR THE MONTHLY AND QUARTERLY, AND THEN YOUR SECOND ONE IS 2015.

SO YOU CAN COMPARE AND SEE WHERE WE'RE SITTING.

ANYBODY, ANY, ANY, IT GIVES YOU THE THREE MONTHS, OCTOBER, NOVEMBER, AND DECEMBER.

UH, THEN WE DID IT THE NEXT QUARTER FOR YOU.

ALSO, ANY QUESTIONS ON ANY OF THIS? I KNOW YOU GUYS SPENT SOME TIME PUTTING THIS TOGETHER, BUT IT'S, IT'S VERY UH, VERY HELPFUL THERE.

IF YOU REMEMBER MR. OAK FIELD'S REPORT, HE SAID WE WERE SITTING THERE ABOUT 15 MILLION AT THE END.

SO IF YOU LOOK ON PAGE TWO, YOU'RE GONNA SEE THAT 15 MILLION SIR.

OH NO, I DIDN'T SEE THAT 11 MILLION EITHER.

ALSO YOU NEED TO KNOW THAT THE DAY THAT THAT, UH, E-T-E-T-F-S PAYMENT THING HAPPENED, THAT WAS THE ANNEX WAS CLOSED, NEITHER KW OR DEBBIE HAD EVER BEEN NOTIFIED BY THE GOVERNMENT THAT YOU HAD TO HAVE THAT IN BY TWO O'CLOCK.

WE HAD TO COME UP HERE AND LOAD IT UP AND THEY STILL REJECTED IT.

THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED.

THEY'RE NOT VERY FRIENDLY.

NO.

YES, HE DID.

ANY, UH, OTHER QUESTIONS? UH, ON ITEM NUMBER 17 BEFORE THE REPORT AND PLEASE NOTE YOU GOT ANY QUESTIONS YOU WANT TO SEE WHERE IT'S AT, HOW WE FIGURED IT, CALCULATED IT, JUST COME BY AND SEE US.

SO WE'RE, DO WE HAVE ANY AREAS, ANY ISSUES, SOME ISSUES WITH THE BACK THING YOU DEALT WITH OR NOTHING THAT REALLY, REALLY CONCERNED ME BECAUSE LIKE I SAID, SOME OF THE STUFF WE PAY ANNUALLY, SO IT'S GOING TO BE AT A HUNDRED PERCENT PAYOUT.

RIGHT.

YOU KNOW, SO, AND WE'RE STILL WATCHING THE REVENUES REAL CLOSE.

I KNOW, UH, THE COUNTY CLERK'S BEEN WORKING REAL CLOSE WITH KW.

UM, YOUR NEW, UM, COLLECTION ATTORNEY, UH, SENT US A REPORT AND WE DIDN'T AGREE AND WE GOT WITH 'EM AND JUDGE GOT WITH HIM AND GOT INVOLVED AND HE FINALLY SATISFIED KW THAT WE COULD TRACE IT TO THE GENERAL LEDGER AND KNOW EXACTLY TO THE PENNY THAT HE, HIS REPORT WAS RIGHT.

SO WE GOT THAT WORKED ON LAST WEEK TOO.

SO NOW HE KNOWS WHAT TO SUBMIT IT AND HOW TO SUBMIT IT BECAUSE THE WAY IT WAS SENT TO US, IT LOOKED LIKE WE HAD COLLECTED A BUNCH OF MONEY WHEN WE REALLY HAD COLLECT IT CLEARED UP.

I'M GLAD IT DID BECAUSE IT'S MUCH MORE ACCURATE THAN BOARD.

WELL YOU KNOW, KW SAID HE'S SAYING 1.2 MILLION FOR JP THREE AND FOUR AND THEY HADN'T COLLECTED THAT MUCH.

SO WE KNEW THERE WAS AN ISSUE AND JUST FINDING OUT THEIR DEFINITIONS AND HOW THE OSSEY PROGRAM FIXES IT WHEN THEY RESOLVE IT OR THEY GET JAIL CREDIT TIME OR WHATEVER, HOW IT'S RESOLVED SO THEN WE KNOW WHAT THE ACTUAL CASH MONEY WE RECEIVE DID.

YES.

IN THE PAST WE'VE BEEN PROJECTING THAT BY THE PREVIOUS YEAR, MORE OR LESS NOT BY WHAT HAS BEEN OWED.

UM, THAT SYSTEM, THAT SYSTEM IS SO DIFFICULT AND COMPLEX THAT GEORGE AND BARBARA HAVE TO DOWNLOAD IT THROUGH A BACK DOOR TO GET IT TO US TO GET TO

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OUR AUDITORS WHERE THEY CAN SEE EVERY PENNY THAT'S OWED.

WE'LL SEE HOW OLD IT IS AND THEN DO A, THEY HAVE A FORMULA WHERE THEY PROJECT, OH, 33% OF IT'S COLLECT AND THEY INCREASE OUR FUL ACCOUNTS SO THAT WAY OUR, OUR BOOKS BALANCED.

SO IF YOU'VE GOT 20 MILLION AND THEY'RE SAYING SIX 6 MILLION OF THAT'S NOT UNCOLLECTIBLE, THEY'LL ADJUST IT.

SO YOU CAN TAKE 20 MINUS THE 6 0 14 MILLION'S COLLECTIBLE ALSO.

AND 2011 WE UH, WE HAD A CONTRACT WITH THE FIRM BUT THERE WAS NO EVERYTHING IN COLLECTION.

WELL ONE GOOD THING WE HAVEN'T DONE, UH, A WRITE OFF OF BAD DEBTS, WHICH IS GOOD BECAUSE THEY WANTED US TO DO THAT AT FIRST.

AND GEORGE AND I KIND OF HAD A DISCUSSION WITH 'EM THAT NO MATTER WHERE IN THE UNITED STATES THESE PEOPLE ARE, IT'S, IF IT'S ON FILE THAT THEY OWE KAUFMAN COUNTY MONEY, YOU KNOW, AND THEY GET STOPPED FOR A TICKET, ANOTHER TICKET OR A VIOLATION, THEN IT'S GONNA SHOW UP.

THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO PAY.

WE'RE GOING GET THAT MONEY EVENTUALLY.

YOU KNOW, MAYBE IT DEPENDS IF IT'S WORTH ENOUGH MONEY FOR US TO TELL THE REST OF THEM.

THEY'RE IN FLORIDA, THEY MIGHT NOT OR $80 SO THEY'LL GET ANOTHER TICKET.

THEY MIGHT, THEY MIGHT WANNA TAKE THAT TRIP.

BUT I MEAN, IT, IT'S SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THE BEST AND REALLY, I MEAN THEY CAN ONLY RECOMMEND AND YOU HAVE TO DECIDE WHAT YOU WANT TO DO ON THAT.

ANYWAY, THANK Y'ALL.

WHAT'S ON THE OTHER? NO, NO, NO.

RICHARD PHILLIPS MAKES A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE SECOND DISCUSSION.

OKAY.

LET'S TAKE A QUICK BREAK AHEAD.

CALL COURT BACK THE ORDER.

FIRST ITEM IS, UH, THAT WE'LL RESUME IS ITEM NUMBER 18.

IF THAT'S TO DISCUSS CONSIDER LINE ITEM TRANSFER.

UH, OKAY.

I JUST FIGURED YOU MIGHT CHANGE SOME OF IT.

NO, I THINK WE'LL GO AHEAD AND GET, GET THAT DONE BEFORE WE DO ITEM 21.

OKAY.

OKAY.

WELL WE MAY WAIT.

I'M SORRY.

DO THAT THEN WE APPROVE THAT WE DON'T NEED TO TALK YOU I'M SORRY.

PARDON ME.

HE TRYING TO GET YOU OUT TALKING.

HE TRYING TO GET YOU OUT TALKING.

I DIDN'T THAT TRANSFER THEN YOU WOULDN'T BE NO NEED.

GET THE TALK WHEN HE GET THE TALK.

THANK YOU.

LOVES TO ME.

I APPRECIATE.

ALRIGHT, LET'S MOVE TO ITEM NUMBER 21.

THAT IS HAVE COPIES BE PLACED ON THE AGENDA.

READ IT, UH, A LOT.

WE DISCUSSED OTHER LINE ITEM OH 1 0 7 9 9.

THE AMOUNT OF 247,000 4 55 TO THE SHERIFF DEPARTMENT AND DETENTION OFFICERS PROVIDING FOR A BASE PAY INCREASE 50 ANNUALLY.

THIS INCREASE WOULD BE READY FOR REMAINDER OF 20 15 16 YEAR AS SOON AS CALCULATED BY THE AUDITOR DIRECTOR, HUMAN RESOURCES AND THEN INCLUDED AS PART OF THE SPACE FOR FUTURE YEARS.

UNUSED FUNDS, UH, WOULD BE RETURNED TO THE AUDITOR PRIOR TO THE END OF THE 2015 16TH.

UH, SHERIFF BURNS HAD ASKED THAT, UH, THIS BE PLACED ON THE AGENDA.

SO WOULD YOUR COMMENTS COURT, UH, THE STEP PROGRAM WHICH Y'ALL GRACIOUSLY UH,

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APPROVED THAT LAST BUDGET, UH, BUDGET CYCLE.

AND WE APPRECIATE THAT.

WE'RE HOPEFUL THAT GOING TO HAVE AN IMPACT ON OUR, WE ALWAYS ANTICIPATED THAT WE WOULD HAVE THE, THIS, WELL, LEMME BACK.

THIS WAS CONTINGENT ON US HAVING REVENUE TO PAY FOR THIS.

AND WE HAD ALWAYS, I THINK TARGET, UH, MARCH OR APRIL, UH, AND I THINK SHE GOT THE, THE WORKUP THAT KAREN DID TO SHOWED TO THE, UH, REVENUE.

I HAD IT HERE SOMEWHERE.

OH, HERE IT'S, YEAH, I THINK WE ALL THAT, THAT'S, UH, THAT'S THAT'S WHAT I'M ASKING.

THAT WE IMPLEMENT THAT, WHATEVER WE CAN DO THAT ON THAT CHART.

IT LOOKS LIKE REVENUE HAS BEEN UH, YEAH, RIGHT.

LINING PARDON OUR REVENUE FROM THE INMATE, ESPECIALLY IN MARCH.

YEAH.

THAT'S, YOU KNOW, THEY, THEY, THAT'S GOING TO GO UP AND DOWN.

YOU KNOW, SOMETIME WE HAVE MORE AND SOMETIME WE HAVE LESS, UH, THE, UH, IF I'M READING THIS RIGHT, WE'RE AT 41.9% ON LAST YEAR YEAH.

FOR THE BUDGETED YEAR.

SO TOTALLY RIGHT.

YEAH.

BUT THAT, YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES IT'S JUST DEPENDS ON THE, I THINK, I THINK, I THINK THE BOTTOM LINE IS THAT THERE'S NOT A PERSON IN THIS ROOM MIGHT HAVE GIVEN RAISE THAT THAT'S NOT EVEN GIVEN, YOU KNOW, Y'ALL WELL DESERVE IT AND THAT, AND YOU KNOW, FROM DAY ONE WHEN I COME IN, I, I THINK I TALKED TO YOU AND ONE OF YOUR CHIEFS AND, AND SAID, YOU KNOW, WE NEED A PROGRAM, SOME KIND OF DEBT PROGRAM.

WE NEED SOMETHING TO KEEP THE, THERE'S NO QUESTION Y'ALL COME UP WITH SOMETHING AND YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S THE PERFECT ONE.

I DON'T, I DON'T, IT MIGHT BE SOMETHING THAT Y'ALL NEED TO REFINE, YOU KNOW, IT MIGHT HAVE TO BE CHANGING, BUT I HONESTLY BELIEVE IT NEEDS TO BE ON PERMANENT VALUES OF THE, OF THE, OF OUR TAX BASE.

IN OTHER WORDS.

'CAUSE I KNOW THIS IS HERE AND I KNOW WE GOT A GOOD CONTRACT AND, AND I'M FINE WITH IT RIGHT NOW, BUT 'CAUSE I KNOW THE VALUES THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THIS YEAR IS GOING TO COVER WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO.

BUT EACH, EACH TIME WE DO IT, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO LOOK AT IT BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW.

IN OTHER WORDS, WE WANT BE, WE DON'T WANT TO HAVE TO GO BACK AND SAY, HEY GUYS, UH, CAN YOU GIMME 10% BACK? UH, THAT'S ALL I'M SAYING.

I MEAN THAT, THAT, THAT'S, THAT'S, AND THAT'S THE BOTTOM LINE.

WE'RE NOT GIVING IT TO YOU ON THESE FIGURE I'M SAYING WE GIVE IT TO YOU.

WE HAVE IT ON VALUE ACTUALLY.

TEMPORARY REVENUE.

THAT'S RIGHT.

THAT'S TEMPORARY REVENUE.

AND WE, AND WE NEED TO BE USING IT AS TEMPORARY REVENUE.

I DON'T MIND THE OTHER PARTS.

WE JUST NEED TO DO IT ON BACK.

WE NEED TO DO IT ON HARD MONEY THAT WE KNOW THAT WE'RE ALWAYS GONNA HAVE.

AND UM, THAT'S THE ONLY THING.

YEAH.

AND I, I DON'T DISAGREE WITH THAT AT ALL.

UH, IN FACT, THE MORE WE CAN MOVE, UH, THIS REVENUE, I MEAN IT'S A BLESSING THAT WE'RE GETTING THIS MONEY.

THAT'S RIGHT.

AND IT'S THROUGH THE EFFORTS OF THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT THAT WE'RE GETTING THAT, UH, I'M NOT, I DIDN'T DO IT.

NO, NO, I AGREE.

AND I DIDN'T.

IT DID.

BUT I THINK IT IS IMPERATIVE THAT WE DO START, UH, PUTTING OUT MONEY, UH, FOR ONE TIME EXPENDITURES, UH, LOWERING THE DEBT THAT WE MAY HOLD.

THAT'S IT.

AND I, AND PERFECT AGREEMENT WITH DOING THAT.

I WOULD POINT OUT TO YOU AS FAR AS THIS YEAR'S CONCERNED, WE HAVE, UH, AND BACK ON THE REPORT THAT THE TAX AGO WE HAVE APPROXIMATELY, UH, OR ALREADY OVER $200,000 IN UH, UH, THAT'S THE REASON I'M SAYING WHAT I'M SAYING AND ROLLBACK TAXES THAT WE HAVE NOT BUDGETED FOR.

SO THAT, AND THAT'S ONLY AFTER SIX MONTHS.

AND SO I WOULD EXPECT THAT WE'LL HAVE MORE THAN THAT BEFORE YEARS AGO, WHICH WILL MORE THAN TAKE CARE OF THIS RAISE.

AND WE PROBABLY NOT EVEN HAVE TO GET INTO THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING.

I'M SAYING THAT I AGREE BECAUSE WE DO HAVE HARD BABY.

I FOUND IT ALREADY.

IF I HADN'T FOUND IT, I'D BE SAYING, WELL, I, I'D BE MAKING A DECISION, BUT THIS ISN'T EVEN A DECISION.

I MEAN THAT'S, I THINK WE CAN ALMOST ANY ITEM THAT, THAT IN THE BUDGET, YOU KNOW, THERE MAY BE TIMES WHEN WE'D HAVE TO ADJUST THAT

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WE WENT THROUGH THAT FEW.

THAT'S RIGHT.

YOU KNOWS THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S NO CONCRETE ON THIS BUDGET.

I KNOW EVERYTHING IS FLUID AND WE, EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS THAT WE'RE ALL HAVE TO OPERATE IN THE REAL WORLD AND WE KNOW WHAT'S THE BOTTOM LINE.

THE ONLY OTHER POINT I'D LIKE TO BRING UP IS THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, WE, WE PASSED THE NEW POLICY AS FAR AS RAISES THAT WE'RE GONNA GIVE THE, THE WHATEVER AMOUNT INCREASE IT IS TO THE DEPARTMENT.

YEAH.

BUT THEIRS IS A, WE WON'T BE ABLE TO GIVE THEM, WE'LL BE ABLE TO GIVE THEM A PERCENTAGE.

BUT I MEAN WELL IT IS UP TO THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT TO ALLOCATE THAT HOWEVER HE SEEMS NECESSARY.

PAYROLL, UH, UNDER, UNDER THE LAW, ONCE WE GET 75,000 EVERY POSITION HAD TO BE CLASSIFIED AND A PAY SCALE SET AND EVERYBODY THAT'S IN THAT POSITION HAS TO BE PAID THE SAME MONTH A LAW.

WE CAN'T DO MERIT INCREASES.

YEAH.

EVERY OTHER DEPARTMENT CAN'T.

OKAY.

OKAY.

SHERIFF DEPARTMENT IS DIFFERENT THAN THAT'S, THEY'RE DIFFERENT.

WE'RE DEALING WITH THAT.

THERE HAS TO BE VALUES, AND I GET ALL THIS, THIS ISN'T A PROBLEM.

I, I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM, BUT I, I DIDN'T EVEN HAVE THAT IN MIND WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT IN OUR, ALL THE OTHER DEPARTMENTS IN THE, IN THE BANK, THE DA AND EVERYBODY AGREED.

LINE ITEM IS IS NOT PEOPLE, IT'S HOW MUCH MONEY THEY HAVE IN THE PAYROLL LINE.

THAT'S WHAT I, AND, AND, AND SO WE CAN GIVE THEM A PERCENTAGE THAT THEY CAN DECIDE HEAD DEPARTMENT AWARE AND WHAT THEY DO, THEY DON'T HAVE TO BE PAID.

WORKS BETTER.

IT WORKS BETTER.

THEY DESERVE MORE.

YOU ON THE OTHER HAND, IF YOU GOT SOMEBODY THAT TAKES A NAP OUT HERE ALL THE TIME, YOU GOTTA PAY HIM THE SAME AS YOU DO.

GOTTA WORKING ALL THE TIME.

WELL I HOPE, I KNOW SLEEPING HERE DEGREES WE KNOW BE NOT GONNA BE THERE LONG.

I KNOW.

BUT NO, WE THINK YOU'RE DOING A GREAT JOB.

I THINK THE DEPARTMENT'S DOING A GREAT JOB.

I JUST CAN'T APPLAUD LOGGED IN NOW.

I, UH, I WOULD APPRECIATE Y'ALL, YOU KNOW, ALWAYS, UH, AGAIN, I, I APPRECIATE YOU DOING IT TO START WITH.

REALLY APPRECIATE YOU IMPLEMENTING WELL WE'RE DOING EXACTLY WHAT WE SAID WE WOULD BUDGET HERE.

WE PUT THIS TOGETHER.

YOU SAID WE COME BACK AND REVISIT IT, UH, DURING THE OF YEAR, MARCH, APRIL, RIGHT AT THAT TIME.

SO THAT'S REASON IT'S THIS DISCUSSION AND UH, YOU KNOW, FORTUNATELY BECAUSE ACTIVITY ROLL BACK TAXES AND THINGS LIKE THAT, ABLE TO DO THIS, CERTAINLY, YOU KNOW, AS WE MOVE FORWARD WE DUNNO WHAT OUR HEALTH INSURANCE IS GONNA COST.

YEAH.

CASE GOING, THE MURDER CASE, THAT'S A WHOLE STORY.

THE GOOD NEWS IS A COUPLE, A COUPLE THINGS MENTIONED MURDER CASE, A COUPLE ARE TEMPORARY ITEMS. YEAH.

WE CAN USE THIS MONEY TO PAY FOR THAT.

YEAH, SURE.

SO I MEAN, YOU KNOW, THE GENTLE, IT'S A GOOD THING WE DO HAVE INSURANCE FOR THE ATTORNEYS, BUT NOT ALL, BUT NOT ALL THE EXPERT WITNESSES AND ALL THAT AND THEIR EXPERT WITNESSES SEEM TO BE ALSO EXPENSIVE.

I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY DOUBT IN THE LAST THREE YEARS FOR COUNTY DECIDE WE HAD A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF BAD LUCK.

CRIMINAL.

YOU'RE NOT GOING, THIS HAPPENED ANY COUNTY AND IT'S JUST BEEN A TOTAL DRAIN ON EVERYBODY.

NOT ONLY DOES REVENUE, IT'S UH, IT'S IF YOU DID IT, IF YOU WEREN'T HERE, I DON'T LIKE YOU BECAUSE OF WHAT'S GOING ON.

I DON'T YEAH.

THE OTHER EXTREME BLANKY THING WAS THAT WE BOUGHT INTO, WE BOUGHT INTO THAT POOL.

YOU KNOW, WE HADN'T DONE THAT.

Y OUGHT BE HALF STAFF.

THAT'S TRUE.

I DON'T KNOW.

I DON'T EVEN KNOW HOW WE'D BE AFFORD.

UH, WELL JUST MENTION KNOW, AND I DON'T WANNA GET INTO THE EXACT AMOUNT YET BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW THE EXACT AMOUNT, BUT I HAVE, WHEN I WAS IN AUSTIN COUNTY, I DID GO BY AND VISIT WITH THE TEXAS, YOU KNOW, WAS ACTUALLY OVER THE, UH, THE REGIONAL PUBLIC DEFENDER'S OFFICE HAD A LEVEL TO KNOW THAT WE GO THROUGH ON THIS THING.

UH, THEY'RE VERY MUCH AWARE OF WHERE WE'RE AND INVITED DOWN IN JUNE WHEN THEY HAVE THEIR NEXT BOARD MEETING AND WE WILL PRESENT A REQUEST SOME, UH, PROBABLY BY THEN.

SO WE'LL PRESENT A REQUEST FOR SOME, UH, AMOUNT OF, UH, REFUNDING, UH, FROM AND THEN

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THEY'LL EVALUATE THAT.

UH, DIDN'T PROMISE ANYTHING, BUT I'M SURE THEY'LL LOOK AT SOME AND THEN WE'LL UH, BE IN WHERE THEY'RE STATE.

WE'RE NOT THE ONLY GOING ON.

SO, YOU KNOW, WE DO HAVE SOME AND I'M, I MEAN THAT'S PRETTY UNUSUAL.

UH, WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO, WE HAVE ONE PERSON THAT SAYS YOU STAND BY HERE OR YOU WHATEVER.

UH, CHUCK, SHE HAD ASKED TO ADDRESS COURT ON THIS.

I FORGOT WHAT I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT.

OKAY.

YOU $70 AND 83 CENTS.

$70, 83 CENTS FOR THE PERSON IS WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT FROM THIS, THIS MONEY WE TRANSFERRED AND EVERYTHING USE EACH EMPLOYEE GETS $70 AN 83 CENTS.

I'VE BEEN DEALING WITH THE SHERIFF DEPARTMENT SEVEN YEARS WITH OUR CRIME.

WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? FOR DAILY? FOR WE MONTH.

PER MONTH.

PER MONTH, OKAY.

YEAH.

AND I'VE BEEN DEALING WITH THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT FOR SEVEN YEARS AND I'VE DEALT WITH QUITE A FEW PEOPLE THERE.

AND THAT'S WHAT I'M WORRIED ABOUT IS THAT I'VE DEALT WITH QUITE A FEW PEOPLE.

WE LOSE A LOT OF PEOPLE.

WE LOSE A LOT OF GOOD PEOPLE AND IT'S ALWAYS FOR THE SAME MONEY.

AND IT'S BECAUSE WE DON'T PAY ENOUGH MONEY.

EVERYBODY AGREES.

HOW DO YOU KNOW THAT? 'CAUSE I'VE SEEN WHAT THEY MAKE AND I'VE SEEN WHAT THE OTHER PEOPLE, AND I'M SAYING, AND I'M BEING TOLD THIS BY EVERYBODY, THAT'S ONE THING.

BUT I'VE ALSO SEEN THAT SOME OF THE PEOPLE WERE LOSING ONE.

EM WAS LANCE IBR.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH LANCE IBRAND.

UH, HE WAS ON THE FRONT PAGE OF THE PAPER NOT TOO LONG AGO.

HE WENT TO WORK IN GRAND PRAIRIE THEN WITH THE SHERIFF DEPARTMENT MAYBE SIX YEARS, FIVE, SIX YEARS.

AND HE WAS ONE WENT OFF THE BRIDGE OVER THERE AND PULL A WOMAN OUT OF THE WATER AND THEN SAVE HER LINE.

UM, I THINK THAT THEY'RE DOING A GOOD JOB OF WHAT THEY'VE GOT.

THE ONE THING THAT NOT ONLY DO THEY NEED THIS WAY IS TO WE'VE, THAT WE COUNTY HAS GIVEN AND SPENT A LOT OF MONEY OVER THE LAST YEAR THAT WE NEEDED TO SPEND THE COMMUNICATION CENTER OUT HERE.

BUT I ALSO REMEMBER IN EVERYTHING HERE THAT EACH OF THE COMMISSIONERS GOT A MILLION DOLLARS THAT WAS COME OUT OF A BOND.

BUT YOU GOT A MILLION DOLLARS OUT THERE TO WHERE OD IT.

AND IT IS TIME THAT WE BROUGHT THESE SALARIES UP BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN GIVEN SALARY RAISES TO ALL OF THE MOST OF THE EMPLOYEE.

WELL I KNOW THAT THE COUNTY EMPLOYEE AND I KNOW THAT'S ROAD RICH PEOPLE AND EVERYTHING THIS LAST SPLIT, BUT THEY ALL GOT A PRETTY RAISE EVERYBODY ACROSS THE BOARD.

YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING.

YEAH.

A BIG RAISE.

IT WASN'T, IT WASN'T YOU CONSIDERED BIG.

IT WASN'T $70 AND 80 CENTS A MONTH DID GO WELL.

THEY ALREADY GOT THE SAME RAISE OTHER, EVERY EMPLOYEE GOT, THEY DIDN'T GET 6,000.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THERE.

THE DEPARTMENT, JUST LIKE WE REFERRED TO WHILE AGO, THE DEPARTMENTS GET AN INCREASE AND WE, WITH THE NEW POLICY, IT'S UP TO THE DEPARTMENT HEAD OR ELECTRIC OFFICIAL TO EXPEND THE MONEY TO WHICHEVER EMPLOYEES THEY DE NECESSARILY DESERVE IT.

AND THAT'S, THAT'S ONE WAY WE'RE GONNA BE, UH, ABLE TO, TO RETAIN GOOD EMPLOYEES THAT THAT WORK.

LIKE I SAID.

WELL, IF WE HAVE ANY MONEY TO GIVE THEM.

YEAH.

I MEAN THAT'S THE OTHER, YEAH, BUT SEE WE NEED TO, STEVE, WE NEED TO ALSO BE FIGURING ON HAVING WE GIVE MORE BECAUSE WE RAISE YOUR TAXES.

WE'RE, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO HAVE MORE.

SO YOU WANT, BECAUSE OF OUR MIND DOUBLING YOUR TAX, PAYING TWICE A TAX, JIMMY? I'M NOT NO, I DID NOT SAY THAT.

I'M JUST SAYING THAT IT NEEDS TO PREPARE FOR HAVING MORE POLICE OFFICERS IN THIS COUNTY.

WELL THAT'S GREAT.

THAT SOUNDS REALLY GOOD.

BUT HOW YOU GOING TO DO THAT WITHOUT RAISING TAXES, WITHOUT BRINGING IN INDUSTRY OR SOMETHING TO RAISE YOUR TAXES? THERE YOU, THERE YOU GO.

WE'VE DONE A PRETTY DECENT JOB WITH BRINGING IN SOME TAXES.

SOME, SOME AREAS OF THE COUNTY HAS.

IT'S VERY LOCALIZED BUT IT GOES TO THE COUNTY.

WHEREVER IT COMES IN, IT COMES TO THE WELL SURE.

SOMETIMES IT, ANYWAY I YEAH, SOMETIMES IT DOES.

I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT AND IT'S THE FIRST TIME I EVER GOT UP HERE WHEN SOMEBODY WASN'T ENTITLED EITHER.

WELL THIS, THIS IS AN AGENDA ITEM IN I I UNDERSTAND.

YEAH.

WE, WE APPRECIATE CITIZENS TO SPEAK ON THE AGENDA ITEMS. OKAY.

THAT'S IMPORTANT TO HAVE DISCUSSION.

OKAY.

THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK.

THANK

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YOU.

ALRIGHT, SO AS WE MOVE AROUND, UH, YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE YOU WANNA SAY? NO, I'M NOT GONNA HAVE TO DEAL WITH THIS NEXT BUDGET.

OKAY.

OTHER GUYS WILL.

SO DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE YOU'D LIKE THAT? I'VE PRETTY MUCH SAID EVERYTHING I NEED TO SAY.

I DON'T YOU, I DUNNO EVERYTHING.

OKAY, COMMISSIONER.

WELL THE ONLY THING I'M GONNA SAY IS, YOU KNOW, WE MADE A COMMITMENT TO SHERIFF BURNS AND HE'S MADE HIS COMMITMENT TO US AND HE STAYED WITH THE POLICE.

SO, UH, I'M GOOD TO GO.

OKAY, COMMISSIONER.

I THINK WE NEED TO HOLD WHAT WE THINK WE DO.

OKAY.

OUR INTEGRITY STAKE HERE, WE NEED THE MONEY IS THERE THIS YEAR ABOUT NEXT YEAR, BUT RIGHT NOW IT'S WHAT? IT'S, WELL LIKE I SAID, IT, IT'S ON REAL VALUES.

UM, YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHAT NEEDS THE EXTRA SHEET ABOUT NEEDS MONEY DIDN'T MEAN ANYTHING TO ME.

I MEAN, BECAUSE I, YOU KNOW, I TOLD Y'ALL BEFORE, I'LL SAY IT AND I'LL SAY IT NEXT YEAR WHEN YOU WANT MONEY, I'LL SAY IT YEAR AFTER.

WE WON'T MAKE ANY DIFFERENCE.

WE REALLY HONESTLY HAVE THE MONEY.

THAT'S GREAT.

WE DON'T REALLY HAVE THE LAND ACCOUNT.

I CAN'T PRODUCE IT.

I WISH IT COULD BUT CAN'T PRODUCE IT.

WELL WE MAY NOT GET THIS WINDFALL AGAIN, SO WE CAN'T SPEND MONEY.

WE MAY NOT HAVE.

IT'S GOOD TO PUT THIS MONEY INTO ONE TIME ITEM.

WE KNOW WE HAVE.

IT'S, WE DO HAVE THAT BIG CONTRACTUAL OBLIGATION.

YOU KNOW, IF, IF WE TAKE THE DEAL MONEY AND PAY OFF THE RADIO SYSTEMS AND THINGS THAT WE HAVE, THEN YES, THEN WE'RE SECURING VALUE MONEY FOR YOU DOWN THE ROAD.

IF WE USE IT WISELY, IT'LL REALLY WORK.

IF WE DON'T, THEN NO.

IF WE WASTE IT, WE GET THERE, THEN WE'RE IN A JAM.

WE DON'T WANT TO DO THAT.

LET ME JUST SAY, I'VE BEEN HERE NOW FOR FIVE AND A HALF YEARS AND I'VE BEEN DOING THE BEST I CAN TO GET US WHERE WE'RE TODAY.

I DON'T KNOW SAYING KNOW.

I THINK WE'RE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE.

IT'S JUST, YOU KNOW, WE ARE TRYING TO GET TO THAT POINT.

I THANK GOODNESS THE OVERALL ECONOMY'S BETTER.

THANK GOODNESS WE GOT THIS GREAT CONTRACT.

WE HAVE, UH, FEDERAL MARSHALS AND UH, WE'RE, WE'RE IN MUCH BETTER SHAPE THAN WHAT WE WERE, BUT WE'RE NOT NEAR WHERE WE NEED TO BE.

BUT WE'RE SLOWLY BUT SURELY GETTING THERE.

AND I KNOW YOU GUYS ALL, YOU KNOW, ALL NEED MORE MONEY FOR THE COUNTY ROAD TO DO THAT.

UH, THERE'S ALWAYS MORE NEEDS IN THERE.

ALRIGHT, UH, SINCE I'M THE ONE THAT PLACED THIS ON THE AGENDA, I'M GONNA MAKE A $50 PAY INCREASE AS WE PREVIOUSLY PROMISED.

AND UH, I'D LIKE TO PUT THAT IN THE FORM OF MOTION.

DO I HAVE A SECOND? I SECOND MR. UH, PHILLIPS SECOND MOTION.

DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

A.

THOSE OPPOSED.

OKAY.

MOTION PASSES.

YOU HAVE.

THANK YOU GENTLEMEN.

JUDGE, REAL QUICK, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE IT'S CLEAR FOR THE RECORD AND FOR LAURA THAT YOU'RE APPROVING THE LINE ITEM TRANSFER, TRANSFER, TRANSFER FOR THE EXISTING RAISE THAT YOU GUYS APPROVED BACK IN SEPTEMBER.

OH YEAH.

MONEY THAT PREVIOUS.

ALL RIGHT, NOW WE GO BACK TO, DO YOU THINK THAT THEY PROOF INCREASE WOULD BE PRORATED AND THAT IT'LL BE INCLUDED AS PART OF THE CASE? FUTURE YEARS? IT DOESN'T HOUSE EXPECT EXPECTING TO FIND NO, NO GUNS.

THANK Y'ALL.

YES SIR.

THIS IS ONE OUT TO COVER THE LINE ITEMS. I NEED TO PUT THOSE ADJUSTMENTS IN.

THE ONLY ONE THAT WON'T GET THE A 50 BE THE SHERIFF BECAUSE HE THAT'S NOT FROM HERE TO THE OTHER AREA.

THAT'S THE WHOLE YEAR.

THAT THE WHOLE YEAR.

YES SIR.

IN THAT LINE ITEM MY HAD 247 ALL ASKING TO 2 46.

SO JUDGE, YOU'RE BASICALLY GOING TO KEEP THAT, THAT THE WORDING OF THAT LINE ITEM EXACTLY HOW IT WAS WHERE YOU, YOU'RE MOVING THAT THE LINE ITEM AND THAT

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IT'S GONNA BE $850 AND THEN IN, IT'S GONNA BE PRORATED AS SOON AS THE AUDITOR AND HR COMES UP WITH NUMBERS AND IT WILL BE INCLUDED IN SEVERAL NEXT YEAR'S.

RIGHT.

THAT'S THAT'S THAT'S THE WAY MOTION, THE WAY IT WAS ON THE AGENDA.

OKAY.

YEAH.

YEAH.

SO THAT'S WHY IT'S SO LENGTHY.

YOU COULDN'T DO IT BEFORE.

DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER YES SIR.

THERE WAS, THERE WAS A LINE ITEM TRANSFER THAT, UH, TO DO WITH JAIL EXPENSE ROAD AND BRIDGE FOUR AND THE ROAD, THE ROAD MONITOR CONSTRUCTION ACCOUNT.

AND THEN WE HAVE, I HAD SOME GRANT MONEY COME IN FOR $10,019 WEREN'T PUT IT IN REVENUE.

AND THEN THE EXPENDITURES.

SO MS. MOTION, UH, FROM COMMISSIONER ALLEN TO APPROVE THE TRANSFER.

DO WE HAVE A SECOND? YOU SECOND IT.

I BELIEVE COMMISSIONER PHILLIP SECOND.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL FAVOR SAY AYE.

ALRIGHT, ITEM NUMBER UH, 19 IS TO DISCUSS YOUR CLAIMS FOR PAYMENT ARE $992,470 AND 90 CENTS.

UH, ROAD BOND EXPENSES WERE 332,000.

ROAD MATERIALS WERE AT A 81,700.

AND MOST OF THE OTHERS WERE GENERAL.

UH, WE HAD 20,000 IN GROUND, LOW CAPITAL MURDER EXPENSES.

BUT NOTHING OUTTA THE, THE EXTRAORDINARY.

WE HAD A LITTLE BIT OF CONSTRUCTION, THE, AND THAT WAS THE PARKING LOT AND STUFF LIKE THAT OF ABOUT 32,000.

YES SIR.

THE BIG PACKET.

BIG PACKET.

THAT'S BIG.

WHAT KIND? WHEN YOU HAVE A BOND, WHEN YOU HAVE A BOND ISSUED, THE BANK THAT IS SENDING US THE INVOICES FROM THE DEBT SERVICES DUE CHARGES CALLED YES SIR.

OH, AT THE EC THAT WAS THAT PARKING LOT.

MOST OF IT WAS PARKING LOT.

FLOOD LIGHTS AND UM, THERE WAS STUFF, YOU KNOW, UNLESS Y'ALL TOOK DOWN.

THEY MIGHT HAVE JUST TALKED TO ME ABOUT THAT'S, I'LL TELL YOU WHAT BUNCH OF IT WAS.

WE HAD A WE THAT THAT FIRE THE PLUMBING.

OKAY.

YEAH.

I MOVED THAT THING BECAUSE IT DIDN'T, 30 2004 23 CENTS WAS SPENT AT DOUBLE RAS SUPPLY.

MOST OF THAT HAD TO DO WITH A TWO INCH WATERLINE FOR PLUMBING A GAS LINE.

WE HAD HOT MIX OF 8,300.

WE HAD CHIPPED AND STEEL AT 17,000 AND $1,698 AND ANOTHER 685 22.

AND THAT WAS FLOODLIGHTS STUFF.

HOW MUCH WAS THAT? WAS THAT DOUBLE R ACCIDENT? AND THAT WAS FOR THE, THERE IS 1, 2, 3 TO DO WITH THEM.

UH, THE PLUMBING WAS 2270.

THE GAS LINE WAS 1557 GAS.

THEY BURIED IT ABOUT THIS DEEP UNDER THE GROUND WATER LINE WAS WATER LINE WAS THIS DEEP UNDER THE GROUND.

WE FIX THE WATER PROBLEM, RUST OUT.

WE FOUND IT, WE FOUND THAT, WE FOUND FIX THE, THE FIRE.

IF YOU SEE THAT, PUT IT RIGHT OVER AGAINST FRONT THERE.

ALL THAT'LL NEVER BE IN THE WAY UNDER SHERIFF'S.

WE, I TOOK A PICTURE OF, I TOOK A PICTURE,

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SOME DRINKING WAS NO WATER.

THERE WAS NO WATER IN THAT FILE.

IT SHOULD BEEN CHARGED.

PUT IT ON, SAID FOUR IS FIRE CAME.

SO THE, THE NEW UH, FIRE SUPPRESSION SYSTEM WATERLINE DID MY CHARGE.

IT'S, WE, WE TORE IT ALL OUT.

BUT THE FIRE CHIEF EDDIE BROWN WAS OUT THERE.

YEAH.

HE KNEW IT WASN'T HE AND WE CAN VERIFY IT.

YOU JUST PROBABLY, IT HAD TOO MANY KINKS AND EVERYTHING ELSE AND IT WASN'T A GOOD SYSTEM.

NOW JUST ONE STRAIGHT SHOT.

ONE, ONE TURN IN.

THAT'S IT.

IF THEY NEEDED TO HOOK UP TO IT.

I MEAN I TALK ABOUT IT ONCE AGAIN SECOND WEEK FROM TODAY WORKSHOP.

SO I'M JUST THINKING ABOUT PART.

HE'S GOT A, AS SOON AS WE GET THAT PERSON, THEN I'LL HAVE OKAY, WHERE ARE WE ON THE PLAN FOR PAPER? ARE Y'ALL STILL, WE GOT A COUPLE ITEMS. OKAY.

I'M LOOKING FOR AN INVOICE RIGHT NOW.

ALRIGHT.

WHILE THEY'RE LOOKING, UH, LET ME, UH, OUR WORKSHOP IS SCHEDULED FOR NEXT MONDAY THE SECOND.

YOU WANNA START AT NINE OR TOGETHER? START AT EIGHT 30.

I'VE GOT A, I NEED TO BE APPROVED BY NOON.

IF WE CAN START AT EIGHT 30.

WE GOT A LOT ON THERE.

SO I, I LIVE ABOUT A HUNDRED MILES 30.

OKAY.

MEETING AT EIGHT 30 HERE OUT MATTER'S.

OKAY.

BUT EVERYBODY HAVE IT UP HERE BECAUSE IT'LL BE LITTLE AT EIGHT 30.

I'M LOOKING FOR A REIMBURSEMENT AND IT'S COMING OUT THE'S NOT THE JAIL SHOWING BECAUSE HE DOESN'T HAVE IT GONNA BE OVER.

THINK REBECCA MIGHT HAVE MAYBE, MAYBE THIS FEE IF YOU FIND RECEIPT.

THE DEFENSE DOWN THERE.

I WAS LOOKING FOR 1, 5, 8, 9.

UH, KIND OF CATCHING UP ON THE OTHER STUFF WHILE WE'RE GETTING THAT FOR YOU.

UM, DOWN MARKETING IS THE ONLY PERSON, I'VE ONLY BEEN TO HER OWN WAITING ROOM.

I'VE SPENT ALMOST $200 COUNTY'S MONEY AND I SENT THEM CERTIFIED LETTERS.

YEAH.

GET 'EM TO SEND YOU A THEY GOT REAL UPSET WHEN I TOLD 'EM I CLOSED THEIR ACCOUNT AND THEY CAN'T ORDER ANYTHING.

SO, UM, THEY'RE, SHE TOLD ME SHE HAVE IT FOR ME TODAY.

THAT'S THE LAST BIG ONE I NEEDED.

I GOT THEM HUNDRED 89,000.

I GOT IN GOOD.

HEY, GETTING SOMETHING, WE'RE GAINING GROUND.

WE GET MONEY BACK.

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GETTING SOME MONEY BACK.

THAT'S, THAT'S THE MAIN THING IN THE GAME.

ALL, ALL THESE BILLS NAME OF THE GAME IS THAT, THAT ALL THOSE BILLS HAVE BEEN LOOKED AT BY ME PERSONALLY AND I CHECKED THEM TO SEE IF THE SIGNATURES ARE ON 'EM.

AND THEY'VE RECEIVED THE SERVICE.

THEY, THEY'VE BEEN, THEY'VE BEEN SIGNED OFF ON BY DEPARTMENT HEAD OR DIVISION.

RIGHT.

HOW WE COMING ON? YES.

HOW WE COMING ON THE PROCUREMENT.

THANK THAT ALL.

I DON'T KNOW, THAT'S, I'VE GOT I KNOW THAT UPDATE ON THAT.

I'LL TALK TO YOU AFTER.

OKAY.

ALRIGHT.

ANY QUESTIONS? HE'S GETTING THAT FOR YOU.

ALRIGHT.

DO I HAVE A MOTION TO UH, CONSIDER CLAIMS? WHAT IF WE NEED ALTER WE WAIT UNTIL WE FIND OUT THIS IS THE RIGHT ACCOUNT OR NOT? YEAH.

WHETHER IT IS OR NOT, WE CAN MAKE A CORRECTION.

OKAY.

IT'S ALREADY IN THERE LIKE THAT.

WE HAVE TO DO A JOURNAL ENTRY NOW.

OKAY.

IF WE WANT TO CORRECT IT.

SO THERE'S NOT AN ISSUE, NOT NOT AN ISSUE'S.

NO.

IT'S NOT AN ISSUE.

WE JUST WANNA MAKE SURE IT'S CODED CORRECTLY.

RIGHT.

OKAY.

OKAY.

I'LL SECOND MOTION.

HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE.

AND SECOND, UH, FROM MR. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY IUR.

SECOND.

YES.

COMMISSIONER.

IT WAS, IT'S 5 61 ON THERE.

SOMEBODY JUST PUT THE WRONG CODE.

I'M PRETTY SURE.