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WE'LL GO AHEAD AND CALL THIS WORKSHOP MEETING TO ORDER.WE'LL DISPENSE WITH OUR REGULAR OPENING, UH, CEREMONIES.
TODAY IS MONDAY, MAY 2ND, AND, UH, IT'S KIND OF A WET, DREARY DAY OUTSIDE.
BUT WE APPRECIATE EVERYBODY BEING HERE.
AND I KNOW WE'RE GOING HAVE SOME OTHERS THAT WILL BE SHOWING UP, UH, JUST IN, IN A LITTLE WHILE.
AND I KNOW WE HAVE SOME GUESTS HERE WITH US TODAY FROM TALTON COUNTY LEADERSHIP CLASS.
ARE, IS THE WHOLE CLASS COMING, OR JUST Y'ALL ARE WE HOLD THE DERBY A COUPLE MORE.
INTRODUCE YOURSELVES SO WE KNOW WHO YOU ARE.
ALLISON NOVA WITH TAR STATE HOSPITAL.
UH, DR. FLOYD IS THE SUPERINTENDENT OF TAR STATE HOSPITAL, SO WE'RE GLAD TO HAVE YOU HERE.
I'M NOT SURE WHAT YOUR TITLE IS OR SHOULD KNOW.
UM, MEDICAL STAFF COORDINATOR.
WELL, WE'RE GLAD TO, GLAD TO HAVE Y'ALL.
WE NEED ANY, UH, MENTAL HEALTH ADVICE HERE A LITTLE LATER ON.
WE'LL, UH, CALL ON YOU TO GIVE US SOME EXPERTISE.
AND I THINK EVERYBODY ELSE IS HAVE, UH, AN OFFICER HERE FROM THE, UH, TERRELL PD KEEPING AN EYE ON US.
SO WE'RE GLAD TO HAVE YOU WITH US.
AND SO WE'LL GO AHEAD AND BEGIN.
THE FIRST ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS, UH, FROM OUR FIRE MARSHAL RANDY RICHARDS.
AND RANDY'S HERE TO, UH, GIVE US AN UPDATE ON THE KAUFMAN COUNTY NUISANCE POLICY TO INCLUDE THE ENTIRETY OF SECTION 3 43, 0.02, ONE OF THE HEALTH AND SAFETY CODE.
IT'S BEEN IN DISCUSSION WITH SEVERAL OF YOU OVER THE PAST SEVERAL WEEKS, AND WE'VE REALIZED SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT WE'RE HAVING RELATED TO THE CULVERTS NOT BEING ABLE TO ENFORCE SOME OF THAT SO FORTH.
AND THEN, UH, CLEANING UP THE, UH, PROCEDURES THAT WE USE WITHIN THE COUNTY.
AND SO WE NEED, UH, IN ORDER TO ENFORCE SOME OF THE SEPTIC AND, UH, CULVERT ISSUE, WE NEEDED TO UPDATE OUR POLICY ADOPTING WHAT IS STATE STATUTE.
SINCE THE, UH, SINCE OUR LAST ADOPTION, THERE HAVE BEEN, UM, TWO OR THREE ITEMS THAT WERE ADDED TO THE STATUTE AND, UH, WHICH PROVIDE THE COUNTY THE AUTHORITY IF WE WERE TO ADOPT THOSE PROCEDURES THAT ARE CONSISTENT WITH THE STATUTE.
SO THAT'S WHAT WE PROPOSE TODAY, IS TO BRING UP ALL, I BELIEVE EVERYONE HAS A COPY.
UH, IF YOU'RE TAKING QUESTIONS, UH, DOWN HERE ON COMMERCIAL PROPERTY, I THINK THAT THAT SHOULD BE 40 FOOT ON THE COVER.
INSTEAD OF 30, ARE WE ON THE PUBLIC NUISANCE OR ON THE COVER, ON THE POLICY IN RELATION TO THE POLICY DOWN TO, UH, SECTION 3.2 WHERE THEY'RE DEFINING THE PUBLIC DISTANCES.
AND IN ADDITION TO THE STATUTE SINCE OUR LAST, SO JAY WOULD REFERENCE THE BUILDING, THE DRAINAGE EASEMENT TO MAINTAIN THAT DRAINAGE EASEMENT AND, UH, MAINTAIN ONE IN A MANNER THAT ALLOWS EASEMENT TO BE FILED WITH BRIEF WOULD BE A VIOLATION OR ANY VIOLATION WITH AN AGREEMENT WITH THE COUNTY TO APPROVE THE BOARD MAINTAIN, SO THAT THAT LANGUAGE APPROVAL COVERS EVERYTHING.
WHAT KIND OF ENFORCEMENT DO WE HAVE ENFORCEMENT WISE? IT GOES BACK TO PUBLIC NUISANCE.
YOU KNOW, OF COURSE, BEING IN THE PUBLIC NUISANCE, IF WE WOULD ADOPT OUR, UH, PUBLIC PROCEDURES WITH PUBLIC NUISANCE, THEN THAT WOULD ALLOW US THE SAME GUIDELINES THAT WE HOLD THERE.
WE STILL HAVE TO ALLOW THE 30 DAY, UH, NOTICE.
AND, UH, THEN IN THE EVENT, I'VE NOT SEEN ANYTHING OTHERWISE.
AND, AND COUNSEL, IF YOU CAN SEE ANYTHING DIFFERENTLY, WE WOULDNT KNOW THAT IF IT WERE AN EMERGENT IMMEDIATE, UH, ISSUE WHERE SUCH DRAINAGE OR WHATEVER WAS PUT IN SUBSTANDARD AND IT WAS CAUSING AN IMMEDIATE FLOODING OR EROSION ISSUE OR A, OR A SAFETY ISSUE FOR THE PUBLIC, YOU KNOW, FOR BACKWATER, I, I BELIEVE THAT BECAUSE IT IS A COUNTY MAINTAIN EASEMENT, THAT THE COUNTY WOULD HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO GO IN AND REMOVE THAT ISSUE BECAUSE IT IT FACT WITHOUT A PERMIT, IT'S, IT'S BASICALLY, UH, YOU KNOW, DO WE HAVE THAT IN WRITING SOMETHING WE, WE DO IN POLICY? YES, SIR.
BECAUSE THAT SITUATION AT PALESTINE, OF COURSE, IT WAS IN THE CITY OF LIMITS, BUT THEY WERE SHOWING WHERE THEY HAD, UH, AND OF COURSE IT PROBABLY WOULD'VE MADE ANY DIFFERENCE, MAYBE, BUT IT WAS,
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YEAH, THEY WERE SHOWING PICTURES OF THE COVER BEING COVERED UP WITH DEBRIS AND EVERYTHING, YOU KNOW, AND THE FAMILY OF SAYING THAT HAD THAT BEEN CLEARED, IT WASN'T HAPPEN, BUT THAT GOT SEVEN INCHES OF RAIN, HOUR, HOUR OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.IF THAT MEANS RAIN HOUR, IT DOESN'T MATTER HOW MANY YOU HAVE IT, THAT WOULD BE ENFORCEMENT.
OTHER THAN THAT, THERE WAS NO COMPLIANCE AFTER 30 DAYS DEAL WITH ALL THE GUIDELINES OF, OF THE REVENUES POLICY, UH, CITATION, CLASS C COULD BE ISSUED AND ALSO, AND OR A, AN ORDER COULD BE MADE TO THIS ORDER, THE COUNTY TO, YEAH.
THIS, THIS CHARGE, BECAUSE WE ALREADY HAVE RIGHT.
WE CAN ALREADY CLEAR IT, WRITE A TICKET, OR WE COULD DO IT OURSELVES AND THEN CHARGE OFF TO THAT CUSTOMER BECAUSE YEAH.
THAT JUST PAY US BACK IF WE, SO IS IT A FAIR STATEMENT TO SAY THE THINGS WE'RE DOING HERE, UH, BRING OUR POLICY AND COMPLIANCE WITH STATE LAW? IS THAT THE PRIMARY, THAT'S PURPOSE.
THE OTHER ADDITION TO IT WAS THE DETIC ISSUE LETTER HELD.
UH, THE MAJORITY OF THAT IS ALREADY HANDLED THROUGH THE PUBLIC WORK DEPARTMENT, UH, FOR THE BOTH DEPARTMENT, NOT THROUGH THE PUBLIC ANCE, BUT IT IS HANDLED THROUGH THE, UH, THE LAWS THAT RELATE TO THE SUBJECT SYSTEMS AND SO FORTH.
SO IT'S REALLY BEING DONE WITH THE, YEAH.
THE, THE PRIMARY PART, IT'S GONNA REALLY HELP THE COUNTIES WOULD BE THE, UH, THE COLOR ISSUE.
THE SEPTIC WOULD BE, I COULD SEE THAT MAYBE IN SOME THROUGH THE PUBLIC WORKS, UH, WE HAVE PRESSURE JUST REFUSING TO APPEAR BEFORE COURT REFUSING DO ANYTHING, AND THEN WE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO GO BACK THE SAME PROCEDURES AND, UH, FILE SUIT OR FILE THINGS ABOUT TODAY MEANS QUESTION.
I HAVE A SITUATION NOT, HE HAS BUILT THE DITCH UP WHERE THIS PUSHED THE WATER OFF ONTO OUR COUNTY ROAD.
SO, UH, WITH WHAT WE'RE SAYING HERE TODAY, I CAN GO OUT THERE AND CLEAN THE DITCH UP.
AND I HAVE THIS DISCUSSION WITH COMPLY OR DO ANYTHING.
SO THIS, THIS, UH, MR. ROSA HAD ONE A WHILE BACK THAT THEY IN FACT HAD TO REMOVE IT TO, TO CAUSE, YOU KNOW, A SAFETY ISSUE FOR THE CITIZENS PLUS FOR THE ROADWAYS.
WE WERE ACTUALLY CONCERNED THAT THE, THE, UH, VIOLATOR MAY GO RIGHT BACK AND PUT IT RIGHT BACK IN, BUT HE DIDN'T, I THINK HE, HE REALIZED THAT HE FAT SOMETHING BURIED BACK AND FORTH, YOU KNOW, AND WITHOUT THESE PROCEDURES, YOU KNOW, WE WOULD JUST BE DOING A LOT OF TIME AND WORK.
BACK ON THE, YOUR SECOND BULLET POINT, YOU TALK ABOUT THE MINIMUM SIZE AND EVERYTHING.
NOW WE ON ITEM AHEAD, LET'S, WELL, WE KIND LITTLE, I GUESS, DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON ITEM ONE OR ANYBODY? WELL, I'M, I'M, I'M STILL, AND REBECCA AND I HAVE TALKED ABOUT IT.
RANDY AND I HAVE TALKED ABOUT IT.
I'M, I'M NOT GONNA VOTE FOR THIS UNLESS WE CHANGE ITEM C AND E TO INCLUDE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, JUST LIKE ITEM A, B, AND F HAVE IN THERE, BECAUSE THAT GIVES THE COUNTY TO, UH, GIVES THE COUNTY AUTHORITY TO GO ON ANYBODY'S PROPERTY NO MATTER WHERE IT IS.
IF IT'S, IF IT'S SOMEBODY SOMETHING THAT SOMEBODY BOUGHT FOR COMMERCIAL PURPOSES, I KNOW AG LAND IS EXEMPT FROM THIS, BUT, UH, I, I JUST DON'T THINK WE NEED TO INTERJECT OUR AUTHORITY OVER ALL COUNTY, YOU KNOW, ALL THE LAND IN THE COUNTY, THAT THAT IS NOT IN A NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND I THINK THIS WAS DESIGNED TO REALLY CONTROL THE NEIGHBORHOODS.
BUT IN ITEM C, C, C, WHAT PAGE, PAGE FOUR? UH, YEAH, PAGE FOUR.
C AND E, IN MY OPINION, SHOULD HAVE NEIGHBORHOOD IN THERE JUST LIKE ITEM A, B, F, UH, HAS IN IT.
I DON'T KNOW WHY IT'S WRITTEN LIKE THAT.
WHY THEY, AND I DON'T, I I UNDERSTAND YOU'RE CONCERN AND, AND IT TO A, THE LANGUAGE THAT YOU SEE HERE IS THOSE ARE THE STATUTES THEMSELVES THAT WE CANNOT CHANGE THE STATUTE, THE LANGUAGE.
WELL, I, I DISAGREE WITH THAT.
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WE CAN ENFORCE THIS UNTIL WE ADOPT IT.I DON'T KNOW WHY WE HAVEN'T THIS ADOPTED CURRENTLY.
WELL, I KNOW, BUT IF WE'RE GONNA UPDATE IT, MY RECOMMENDATION IS THAT WE TAKE, WE CHANGED C AND E TO PUT IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
WE UPDATED THE STATUTES THAT WERE NOT ADOPTED BY THE COUNTY.
BUT, UH, WELL, THIS WHOLE, DO WE ADOPT THE WHOLE THING OR COURT PORTION OF IT? WE, WE CURRENTLY, OUR STATUTE CURRENTLY HAS ADOPTED A THROUGH, I I UNDERST UNDERSTAND IT WOULD BE THE EQUIVALENT OF A THROUGH.
BUT IF WE ADOPT A NEW POLICY, THAT WILL BE THIS ONE.
SO WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO ADOPT ALL OF IT OR NONE OF IT, OR FOR OF IT.
I DON'T THINK WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO CHANGE THE DEFINITION OF PREMISES AS IT'S DEFINED BY THE LEGISLATURE.
I'M GOING TO MAKE IC AND E PARALLEL WITH ITEM A, B, AND F.
AND WHAT RANDY'S POINT IS THAT ALL OF THOSE WERE DRAFTED BY THE LEGISLATURE.
SO IF THEY'RE NOT CONCURRENT THAT IT WAS INTENDED THAT THEY NOT BE CONCURRENT.
BUT IF THIS IS NOT ENFORCEABLE UNTIL WE ADOPT IT, IT IS ENFORCEABLE AS WE ADOPTED IT IN 2004.
THAT'S WHAT THE LEGISLATION I UNDERSTAND.
UNDERSTAND, I UNDERSTAND THAT ALSO.
BUT IF WE ADOPT A NEW ONE, THAT MEANS IT'S GONNA BE A NEW ONE.
THAT POLICY C IS IDENTICAL TO OUR CURRENT POLICY.
THAT THAT CURRENT SECTION DID NOT CHANGE.
I'VE GOT THE 2004 ONE RIGHT HERE.
I UNDERSTAND WHICH ONE WERE REGULATED UNDER CURRENTLY.
AND I UNDERSTAND THE ONE THAT WE'RE PROPOSING TO BE REGULATED UNDER.
AND YOUR THINKING ON THAT IS, IS THAT IT INVADES PERSONAL PROPERTY.
IF SOMEBODY BUYS A A HUNDRED ACRES, 200 ACRES, A THOUSAND ACRES, AND IT HAS NO BARN ON IT AND THEY DON'T WANT TO TEAR IT DOWN, THIS GIVES THE COUNTY THE AUTHORITY TO MANDATE YOU TEAR IT DOWN.
THAT WOULD BE, EXCEPT UNDER THE AGRICULTURAL.
WHAT, WHAT, WHAT IF IT'S NOT AG? WHAT IF IT'S NOT UNDER AG? YOU KNOW, THERE'S, THERE'S PROPERTY THAT THEY, PEOPLE HAVE BEEN PAYING TAXES ON THAT THE OWNERS LIVE IN OTHER STATES, YOU KNOW, AND THEY HAVEN'T SEEN THE PROPERTY IN FOREVER.
SO THAT GIVES THE COUNTY THE AUTHORITY TO GO IN THERE AND TEAR SOMEBODY'S PROPERTY DOWN.
AND, YOU KNOW, WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE IF THE, THE BUILDING OR THE, THE TALL WEEDS? NO.
IS THIS COMPLAINT BASED OR, UH, IS IT'S SOMETHING THAT YOUR OFFICERS WERE DRIVING BY AND YOU SAW IT, YOU SAID THAT THAT'S NOT GOOD.
WE NEED, WELL, THAT WOULD BE UP OBVIOUS ON THE ROAD.
WE HAD COMPLAINANT IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE BACK ON HUNDRED ACRES.
I DON'T, I DON'T SEE HOW ANYBODY SEE IT FIRST PLACE.
AND RANDY, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT THE REGULATION ASPECT OF IT IS IT GOES BACK THROUGH THAT COMMISSIONER WITHIN THAT PRECINCT AND THEN BACK TO THE COURT IF AN ASSESSMENT'S MADE CORRECT.
SO THERE'S SOME SO COMMISSIONER TO SAY, I DON'T WANT TO PURSUE THIS OR I WANNA PURSUE THAT, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T GO OUT THERE, SAY, SAY YOU, UH, THE JUDGE OR MYSELF OR ANY OF YOU GUYS, THERE'S SOME RE I'VE GOT A LITTLE PILE OF WHAT I CALL BUY STUFF DOWN.
WE GO AROUND IT, BUT I GOTTA KEEP IT CLEANED UP.
BUT YOU CAN'T KEEP IT CLEANED UP ALL THE TIME.
SO, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT THAT WE'RE JUST GONNA BE RUNNING IN THERE TAKING ADVANTAGE OF OUR TAX.
I'M TRYING TO GUARD AGAINST, I SEE POINT, BUT IT STILL HAS TO COME BACK TO THE COMMISSIONER IN THE PRECINCT FOR THE CARD.
FOR ANYTHING FURTHER TO HAPPEN.
AS LONG AS THAT HAPPENS, THAT'S THE SAFEGUARD.
AND THAT THAT PARTICULAR PRECINCT HAS THE AUTHORITY TO OVERRIDE.
BUT AGAIN, HERE TO, YOU'RE LOOKING AT ONE PERSON'S DECISION NOT TO DEAL WITH, TO DEAL WITH COURT.
EVERYBODY'S PERSONAL PROPERTY IN THAT PRECINCT STILL HAS TO COME TO THE COURT THOUGH, FOR MAJORITY OF EVERY TIME.
EVERY TIME THAT SOMETHING GOING SHOULD BIGGEST PROBLEM IS, IT COMES DOWN TO, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU LIVE, YOU USED ALWAYS LIVE IN THE COUNTY FOR A REASON, BECAUSE NOBODY, THE REASON TO LIVE IN THE COUNTY IS 'CAUSE YOU DON'T WANT TO DEAL WITH CITY ORDINANCES.
I, IT SEEMS, SEEMS LIKE, YOU KNOW, EVEN THOUGH KIND 2004 NOBODY'S DONE ANYTHING WITH IT, BUT, YOU KNOW, IT SOUNDS LIKE WE'RE TRYING TO PUSH, LET'S PICK ON THE PEOPLE OF THE COUNTY AND IT WOULDN'T BE OUR OFFICE PER MAKING THE DECISION THAT THEY HAVE DO THAT.
EACH PERSON, IF THEY WERE TO RECEIVE WITH, THEN THEY HAVE A HEARING AND IT GOES BEFORE MAGISTRATE.
AND IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE A HUNDRED ACRES.
IT CAN BE BE 10 ACRES OR 20 ACRES OR WHATEVER.
BUT YOU, YOU KNOW HOW YEAH, WHATEVER, YOU KNOW HOW NEIGHBORS VIEW, OKAY? ITEM E GIVES YOU THE AUTHORITY
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AS A SAFETY ISSUE.IF SOMEBODY HAS A BUILDING THAT'S NOT BUILT BY A, UH, BY A CONTRACTOR THAT IS A ENGINEERED BUILDING THAT IS STAYING, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER, A HUNDRED MILE AN HOUR STRAIGHT WINDS.
UM, AND, AND THE NEIGHBOR COMPLAINS THAT HIS, HIS NEIGHBOR HAS A BUILDING THAT'S NOT UP TO COACH.
WELL, IF YOU GO IN THERE AND YOU FIND OUT, YOU KNOW, HE WIRED THE BUILDING HIMSELF AND, AND HE DOESN'T HAVE THE GROUND FAULT RECEPTACLES AND THIS AND THAT, YOU'RE OBLIGATED TO IF IT WERE A COMMERCIAL BUILDING.
THIS IS ANY ANYWHERE IN THE COUNTY.
IT SAYS MAINTAIN A BUILDING, NOT A COMMERCIAL BUILDING GROUND FAULT.
RE WELL, THAT'S JUST THE EXAMPLE.
BUT I MEAN, WHAT IS FALLS UNDER FIRE SAFETY CODE? YES, SIR.
THAT'S JUST, THAT'S JUST SCARY TO ME.
BUT MY QUESTION IS, AS IT'S WRITTEN DOWN, OUR POLICY SAYS THAT SAME EXACT THING.
AND WE HAVEN'T ENFORCED IT IN THAT WAY.
WELL, THAT, BUT THAT DOESN'T, I MEAN, IT'S BECAUSE YOU DON'T ENFORCE IT DOESN'T MEAN IT'S NOT A LAW.
IF WE PASS THIS, THIS IS A LAW THROUGH COMMISSIONER, IT HARDER CANNOT BE.
SO FIRE'S OFFICE ONLY HAS A PARTY TO REGULATE THE CONSTRUCTION.
WELL, I THINK, UH, IT'S NOT MAINTAINING A BUILDING NOT THE SAME AS AS, UH, HAVING TO BE UP TO CODE.
I MEAN, WHAT, WHAT IS DIFFERENT BETWEEN MAINTAINING A BUILDING IN, IN AN UNSAFE WAY THAT CONSTITUTES A HAZARDOUS SAFETY HELP AND PUBLIC WELFARE? YOU RELATED TO LIKE A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL BUILDING? NO, A SHOP OR SOMETHING.
SAY SOMEBODY HAD A SHOP WHERE THEY RESTORE OLD CARS.
SOME IF WERE A SHOP AND IF WERE NOT MAINTAINED, THAT'S WHAT FALL UNDER THE FIRE MARSHAL'S OFFICE AS WELL AS THE OTHER WORKS DEPARTMENT.
EVEN IF IT'S NOT A COMMERCIAL OPEN FOR NOT A COMMERCIAL BUILDING, THE FIRE'S OFFICE WOULD'VE AUTHORITY ENFORCEMENT ON FIRE CODE RELATED ISSUES IF IT FELL UNDER THE FIRE CODE, UH, BUILDINGS THAT WERE PRE-ADOPTION OF FIRE, FIRE CODE.
THE, THE ONLY THING THAT THEY WOULD HAVE TO COMPLY WITH WOULD BE THE, UH, EXIT SIGNAGE AS FAR AS THE STRUCTURAL COMPONENT OF THE BUILDING.
FACT, IT DIDN'T HAVE A SPRINKLER SYSTEM.
THAT, THAT IS NOT, THAT'S, PEOPLE CAN'T GO BACK ON CONSTRUCTION AND SOMETHING THAT PRE-CODE, PRE-ADOPTION.
WELL, I TELL YOU, SELL OR TURN YOUR ELECTRICITY OFF ELECTRICITY, WHO DOES WHAT IF YOUR ELECTRICITY TURN IT OFF, YOU HAVE TO TURN IT BACK ON THEN.
WE, WE HAVE THAT HAPPEN QUITE OFTEN.
AND, UH, TEXAS KICKS YOU, UH, FLAGS ALL OF THEIRS AS REQUIRED IN INSPECTION.
AND QUITE COMMONLY, UH, SEVERAL TIMES A WEEK WE GET COMMENTS FROM CITIZENS AND WE DON'T HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO REGULATE A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL.
THEREFORE WE JUST SEND AN EMAIL TO KX U SAYING THE COUNTY DOES NOT HAVE AUTHORITY TO REGULATE COMMERCIAL, IT'S SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL.
THEREFORE AN INSPECTION IS NOT REQUIRED.
NO COMMERCIAL, WE NOT ACTUALLY COMMERCIAL ELECTRIC TO GET TURNED OFF.
THEN THEY HAVE TO BRING EVERYTHING UP TO CODE.
IT'S JUST IF IT WERE ALREADY DONE, THE INSPECTION WERE ALREADY DONE BY OUR DEPARTMENT, UH, IT WOULD JUST BE AN ISSUE OF CONTACT U AND SAYING APPROVAL.
BUT HE SAID IF, IF HE HAD DONE AN INSPECTION, IF THAT COMPANY HAD GONE IN AND MADE SIGNIFICANT IMPROVEMENTS, MODIFICATIONS, YOU KNOW, WITHOUT A PERMIT, THEN IT WOULD REQUIRE AN INSPECTION.
AND IF EVERYTHING WAS BUILT PROPERLY AND THE ELECTRICIAN ELECTRICITY WAS DONE BY A LICENSED ELECTRICIAN, WELL THEN YOU WOULD INSPECT IT OFF.
IF THERE WERE WORK THAT WAS DONE, HOW DONE THEN INSPECT IT? BECAUSE WE HAVE A LIST OF ALL THE BUSINESSES THAT WERE THERE PRIOR TO THE ADOPTION OF OUR PARK CODE.
AND ANY CONSTRUCTION THEREAFTER WOULD FALL UNDER JUST REQUIRING A PERMIT FOR THAT WORK.
SO WHAT ARE WE DOING NOW? UH, THE LAW IS IN PLACE, I BELIEVE YOU SAID CURRENTLY.
AND WHAT DO WE DO NOW? IF YOU RECEIVE A
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COMPLAINT, UH, WE INVESTIGATE THE COMPLAINT AND IF IT MEETS THE CRITERIA FOR THE PUBLIC NUISANCE, THEN WE'LL APPLY THE 30 DAY NOTICE, RIGHT? CORRECT.HOW MANY TIMES HAVE YOU DONE THAT? YOU KNOW, RIGHT OFF THE TOP OF YOUR HEAD? NUMEROUS, UH, MOST YES.
MOST, UH, PROBABLY 95% OR BETTER ARE JUST THE HOMEOWNER NOT REALIZE THAT THEIR SEPTIC WAS OVERFLOWING OR THEY DIDN'T REALIZE THEY HAD TO GET A PERMIT TO PUT IN.
SO, UH, EXCEPT THAT YOU'RE, YOU'RE FOLLOWING WHAT THE STATE LAW IS.
EVEN THOUGH WE, OUR POLICY DOES NOT SPEAK TO THAT, YOU'RE STILL FOLLOWING AS FAR AS RELATED TO ITEMS A THROUGH, UH, I BELIEVE WE'RE THE LAST THREE THAT WERE LISTED THERE, WE DO NOT HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO ENFORCE BECAUSE WE HAVE NOT ADOPTED PROCEDURES CONSISTENT WITH THAT PART OF THE STATUTE.
THAT WHICH THE STATUTE SAYS WE SHOULD ADOPT, UH, POLICIES CONSISTENT WITH THE STATUTE BEFORE WE CAN ENFORCE THROUGH THOSE POLICIES.
REBECCA, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD TO MY ONLY POINT IS JUST THAT IT TIES INTO THE CULVERT POLICY.
SO THAT WAS THE INTENT OF BRINGING IT BACK UP.
THE OTHER SIDE ISSUE, IT'S, IT WAS STRICTLY FOR THAT J TO CAPTURE IT, UM, SO THAT WE COULD APPLY IT.
AND THEN AS FAR AS THE REGULATION AND HOW WE'RE HANDLING THE APPLICATION, UM, THEY JUST PROVIDE THE NOTICE AND THE HEARING REQUIREMENTS IN THE STATUTE.
AND THEN RANDY'S DEVELOPED, UH, THE HEARING, UH, SCHEME AND THEN MAKING SURE THAT IT'S GOES TO THAT COMMISSIONER.
SO, AND I THINK THAT SYSTEM WORKS PRETTY WELL.
SO IT DOES TIE INTO THE COVER POLICY THAT JAY DOES.
THOSE LAST THREE, WE RAN INTO AN ISSUE WHENEVER, UM, WE TRIED TO HAVE A CULVERT THAT WAS BACKING UP BEING DECLARED AS A NUISANCE BECAUSE WE HADN'T ADOPTED THAT PART OF THE STATUTE.
WE'VE STILL GOT THE DISCUSSION GOING ON, ON ITEM ONE.
WE'RE NOT VOTING ON ANYTHING TODAY.
SO LET'S MOVE TO ITEM TWO AND SHOW US EXACTLY WHERE THAT TIES IN.
SO AT LEAST I'LL HAVE A, IN MY SLOW MIND, I'LL HAVE A, UH, SOMEWHAT OF A CLARIFICATION OF IT.
SO WHAT WE DID WITH THE CULVERT POLICY, AND I NEED TO MAKE ADDITIONAL COPIES TOO, BECAUSE I'VE ADDED SOME ADDITIONAL LANGUAGE TO THE ONE THAT YOU GUYS GOT.
UM, BUT BASICALLY WE JUST ADDED A LINE IN THERE THAT SAYS, OR IS IT, IT'S GOING TO BE SECOND FROM THE BOTTOM ON THE BULLET POINTS.
IT JUST SAYS VIOLATIONS MAY BE CONSIDERED A PUBLIC NUISANCE.
AND THAT WOULD BE, UM, FACT SPECIFIC ON WHETHER OR NOT THAT MATCHES WHAT A PUBLIC NUISANCE IS UNDERNEATH OUR NUISANCE POLICY.
PAGE TWO H TWO VIOLATIONS OF THIS POLICY MAY BE CONSIDERED A PUBLIC NUISANCE UNDER DALTON COUNTY'S PUBLIC USE ABATEMENT PROCEDURES, SUBJECT ALL CRIMINAL AND CIVIL PENALTIES IN CONJUNCTIONS LIENS AND COST ASSESSMENTS THEREIN.
SO HOW DID THE, UH, ABATEMENT POLICY COVER POLICY, WHAT DID COME UP? WE DON'T HAVE ISSUES COME TO US.
SO WE CANNOT ENFORCE THIS VER POLICY WITHOUT ADOPTING THE RULE THAT IN THAT WAY YOU CAN ENFORCE IT IN IN DIFFERENT WAYS.
WE ALWAYS REMOVE THE CULVER FOR SAFETY REASONS IF IT'S BACKING IT UP.
BUT THE PROBLEM WITH THAT IS THAT WE DON'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO ASSESS THE FEE OF REMOVING IT IF SOMEONE'S PUT IT IN INCORRECTLY, UM, WITHOUT THE ANCE ABATEMENT POLICY.
SO THAT'S HOW THEY, THEY TIE IN.
AND THEN I ALSO, RANDY HAD TALKED ABOUT POTENTIALLY PUTTING SOME CONTEMPT LANGUAGE IN THE, UH, COURT'S ORDER.
THAT WAY WE COULD PURSUE MAYBE, UH, CRIMINAL VIOLATIONS IN ADDITION TO CIVIL IT FOR SOMEONE WHO'S COMPLETELY WORKING THEIR WAY AROUND THE, THE SYSTEM.
AND I'VE GOT NEW COPIES LOOKING KIND OF SPREADING AROUND.
RANDY'S SEEN THIS AND IT HAS THE, UH, CONTENT LANGUAGE AT THE BOTTOM OF, UH, WE ON PAGE TWO.
AND THEN WHERE THE COPY IS TOO.
AND WE'VE, RANDY AND I HAVE LOOKED AT HOW MANY DIFFERENT POLICIES HAVE WE LOOKED AT A BUNCH? UM, OURS IS A LOT.
IT'S NOT THE MOST SIMPLE, BUT IT, IT PUTS IN ALL THE ENFORCEMENT LANGUAGE THAT WE REALLY LIKE FROM OTHER POLICIES.
AND IT ALSO WORKS IN THE FACT THAT YOU STILL HAVE TO OBTAIN THE PERMIT AND SIGN OFF THAT YOU'RE GONNA ABIDE BY THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE PERMIT.
SO WE NEED TO UPDATE THAT DOCUMENT AS WELL.
AND I DON'T THINK RANDY HAS A WORD VERSION OF IT.
SO I WAS WONDERING, CAN YOU GUYS HAVE ACCESS TO THAT OR IF WE NEED TO JUST RECREATE THE DOCUMENT AND PUT IN THE NEW
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REQUIREMENTS.UM, ANOTHER THING THAT I WANT TO GET YOU GUYS A OPINION ON IS 4.3, THE TYPE OF MATERIAL THAT THE CULVERT SHOULD BE MADE OUT OF.
DO YOU HAVE A, A RECOMMENDATION, MAYBE SOMETHING DIFFERENT FOR COMMERCIAL VERSUS RESIDENTIAL? IT'S ON PAGE 1.3.
ALL COVERAGE THAT BE GALVANIZED UHHUH.
I DIDN'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS WANTED THAT OR NOT.
A LOT OF POLICIES GO WITH THAT REQUIREMENT, BUT IT, SOME OF THE COUNTIES EITHER INDICATE, WELL, SOME CO MARSH MAY SEND IT.
AND WE CAN DIFFERENTIATE, WE GET ADDED ANOTHER PAGE TO A PAGE AND HALF ON SOME OF THE OTHER ADOPTED POLICIES THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT.
THAT SHOULD BE A MINIMUM REQUIREMENT, I THINK.
SO UPGRADE IT FOR, UH, COMMERCIAL CONTROL.
THAT SHOULD BE A MINIMUM REQUIREMENT THAT WAY THAT WOULD, THAT WOULD ELIMINATE ALL THESE PVC PIPES PEOPLE THROW IN THERE AND THEN GET CRUSHED ON PVC PIPE.
YOU WANT ALSO ADD CONCRETE TO IT.
THERE'S A AND ADOPTED, VERY SPECIFIC, THEY SHOWED GALVANIZING CERTAIN APPLICATIONS.
THEY HAD THE CONCRETE, I BELIEVE THE COMMERCIAL APPLICATIONS, CERTAIN SIZES.
AND THEY ALSO ALLOWED FOR A, UH, IT WAS THAT THEY CALLED IT A BS, THE CORRUGATED PLASTIC DESIGNED.
I DON'T, WELL THAT'S WHY WE, THE, THE STATE ALLOWS GALVANIZING COMMERCIAL, SO I DUNNO WHY WE WOULD WELL, THEY HAVE AN OPTION.
COST I THINK, I THINK THEY CAN GALVANIZE MINIMUM IS GOOD.
YOU KNOW, SOME PEOPLE USE A HEAVY WALL STEEL, YOU KNOW, LIKE THE PIPELINE PIPE.
IF THEY HAVE TRUCKS COMING IN AND OUTSIDE, THEY DON'T GET CRUSHED, YOU KNOW.
AND THAT, AND COULD WE INCLUDE SOME TYPE OF LANGUAGE THAT UM, YOU KNOW, THAT WOULD BE A MINIMUM AND OR AN APPROVED, UH, STEEL PIPE APPROVED BY THE COMMISSIONER.
SO HOW ABOUT SHALL MINIMUM BEEF OUT NINE SQUARE CASE? NO.
APPRECIATE I'LL TRIAL APPROVAL.
IT SAID CALL BEFORE YOU DIG AND IT GAVE, YEAH, THAT'S A GOOD THE NUMBER.
HOW BIG OF A PROBLEM IS THIS FOUR AROUND? I DON'T THINK THAT'S HUGE, BUT YOU KNOW, IT'S STOPS UP IN THE MIDDLE OF THE ROADWAY SOMEWHERE.
ALL THE TIME WITH, WITH THE FLOODING THAT WE'VE HAD, YOU KNOW, IN THE LAST YEAR AND A HALF, BEEN MORE.
I MEAN DURING A DROUGHT IT'S NOT VERY OBVIOUS, BUT WHEN WE GET THE RAINS, LIKE WE'VE HAD NOW WE'RE FIND WHERE ALL THE PVC PIPE ARE.
I'VE BEEN CONTACTED, UH, MUCH LESS BY 360 2 1.
I'M NOT UP FOR WHAT ABOUT THE, UM, LINKS THAT I PUT IN THERE TOO? I AND I ANDERSON COMMERCIAL 40 FOOT.
WELL NOW I DO HAVE, HERE HERE'S QUESTIONS IS IN SOME AREAS WHERE PEOPLE ONE EIGHT LOTS, SOMETIMES 40 FOOTS GOING COVER ALMOST FROM ONE GUY TO THE NEXT REASON.
EVERYBODY SAID 40 40 UNLESS IMPROVEMENT.
YOU ON THE FRONT PAGE ABOUT, ABOUT COMMERCIAL PROPERTY.
WELL, I, I DON'T THINK SO BECAUSE YOU KNOW, YOU LOOK AT OUR LITTLE BITTY NARROW ROADS AND IF SOMEBODY'S GONNA BRING TRACTOR TRAILERS IN OFF OF A ROADS TRAILER, 14 OR 16, YOU CAN'T TURN.
LANGUAGE THAT WOULD ACTUALLY ASSIST THE COMMISSIONERS.
IT WOULD BE THE LAST BULLET FORM ON PAGE TWO.
I MEAN, TO BE HONEST, IF JUST PUT APPROVAL BY COMMERS, YOU KNOW, ANYTHING OTHER THAN BE APPROVED BY US AT THE DEAD END OF THE ROAD, HE'S NOT BOTHERING ANYBODY IN THE WORLD.
IF HE WANTS TO PUT A 10 INCH PLANT COVERED IN HIS DRIVEWAY, THAT'S HIS TRUCK.
I MEAN, YOU KNOW, I DON'T CARE IF IT FLOOD HIS HOUSE, THAT'S HIS GUY.
YOU KNOW, HE, HE'S NOT GONNA BOTHER ANYBODY ELSE.
THEN I, AND THAT MATTER, ONLY THING I WORRY ABOUT IS WHO'S GOING TO BOTHER SOMEBODY ELSE IF IT CRUSHES ALL THE CORNERS OF HIS CULVERT WHEN HE
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PULLS IN HIS TRAILERS, THEN IT STOPS AT THE DITCH ALL THE TIME.THEN YOU ALWAYS CALL THIS THEN.
AND WE'RE OUT THERE JACKING THEM UP.
WE GO JACK, WE FIND EM, WE JACK THEM UP.
AND THAT WRAP UP THE QUESTION THAT I HAD.
WE HAVE ROADS WITHIN THE COUNTY THAT ARE NOT ADOPTED COUNTY RULES PRIVATE, THEREFORE DO WE BUT BUT THEY'RE CONNECTED TO COUNTY RULES.
WELL THEN WE HAVE THE AUTHORITY.
IF THEY WERE TO PUT IN A SUBSTANDARD CULVERT, THAT WOULD CREATE AN ISSUE.
NOT, WE CAN'T PERSONALLY RIGHT NOW REGULATED BASED ON WHERE THEY'RE AT.
BUT IF THAT, NO, PROBABLY PRIVATE ROAD, BUT IF THAT BACKUP ON THE PRIVATE ROAD WE'RE CAUSING ISSUES TO THE HOMEOWNERS OR THE ROADWAYS ON COUNTY OF DOCUMENT, IT WOULDN'T BE IN OUR CONTROL.
WE HAVE THAT ABILITY TO DO ENFORCEMENT.
JUST LIKE IF A CROSS, JUST LIKE IF A CROSS COVER IS STOPPED UP OUT SOMEBODY'S PASTURE, WE CAN GET A COURT ORDER IF THEY DON'T ALLOW US TO GO ON THEIR PROPERTY AND OPEN THE, THE, SO WE, WE HAVE THE ABILITY AFTER THE FACT.
STATE, WHAT ABOUT PROACTIVE APPROACH REQUIRED TO THE INSTALLATION? YOU GONNA RUN AROUND AND INSPECT PASTURE COVER IN THE COUNTY TO REQUIRE THAT? MAYBE NOT EVEN CHARGE PERMIT.
USE THAT PRINCESS ENOUGH INITIAL OVER SOUTH OF TOWN TO PUT IN A HOUSE DITCH.
PRIVATE ROADS ARE ALL CONCRETE ROADS, BUT THEY'RE PUTTING IN SIX, SIX PC PIPE BEFORE THE COAST, WHICH IS, AND THEY COVER UP THE CONCRETE.
WELL THAT'S, THEY'RE PUTTING IN CEMENT.
SO HOW DID THAT AFFECT THE COUNTY ROAD? I THINK THE STATE WOULD THE WATER BACK UP, THE WATER WILL BACK UP ON OUR COUNTY ROAD BECAUSE IT'S FLOWING DOWN HILL.
IT'S GOING BACK THAT WORK ON ROAD.
WE, WE HAVE BY STATE STATUTE WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO ALLEVIATE THAT.
WELL I UNDERSTAND BEFORE THAT HAPPENS.
BUT YOU KNOW, BECAUSE THEY'LL WANT US TO COME BACK.
WE WOULDN'T KNOW IT'S GOING CONCRETE COVER OVER THEIR DRIVE LEAD.
WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO ALLEVIATE WHATEVER KIND OF PUBLIC SAFETY ISSUE IT CREATES.
WELL WHAT ACTUALLY GOING AND TEAR THAT OUT, WHAT ARE WE GONNA DO THERE? THEY'RE GONNA BE COMING TO THE COUNTY TO FIX IT.
WELL IF YOU, I DON'T KNOW, YOU GO BACK TO THE DEVELOPER THAT ALLOWED THAT THEY OFF.
THAT'S WHY I WAS GETTING, I WANT TO APPROACH IT AT THAT POINT.
DO THE PROPERTY OWNERS OWN TO THE CENTER OF THAT ROAD? OR THEY, DO THEY OWN SEATS STARTED PUT BACK FROM THE CENTER PRIVATE PROPERTY? I DUNNO.
WELL THAT'S, THAT'S THE ISSUE.
IF THEY OWN TO THE CENTER OF THAT ROAD, THAT'S THEIR PROBLEM.
YOU CAN MAKE THEM ABATE THAT IF THE DEVELOPER OWNS THE ROAD AND THEIR, THEIR PROPERTY LINE IS 30 FOOT BACK FROM THE CENTER OF THE ROAD, THEN YOU GO AFTER THE DEVELOPER, THAT PROPERTY SHOULD BE ON THE TAX ROAD WITH SOMEBODY.
WHETHER IT'S DEVELOPER OWNS IT OR IF THE PROPERTY OWNER OWNS TO.
SO IT GOES BACK TO WHOEVER PROPERTY DEVELOPER WANT THE ROAD.
I MEAN THAT'S, THAT'S A WHOLE NOTHER ISSUE.
LET'S GO INTO, UH, THE THIRD BULLET POINT HERE ON PAGE TWO.
AND AN EXPANSION JOINT SHALL BE PROVIDED TWO FEET, TWO FEET BEYOND THE OTTER EDGE OF THE PIPE ON EACH SIDE OF THE COAL PIPE TO FACILITATE REMOVAL OF CONCRETE AS MAY BE NECESSARY TO LARGE PIPE DURING DRAINAGE.
UH, I THINK THAT'S A GOOD WORD, ISN'T THERE? THAT'S A GOOD, IF THEY CHOSE TO DO A CONCRETE SERVICE, I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE 11 FOOT.
WE, UH, OR OR 11 FOOT FROM THE CENTER LINE THAT GIVES YOU 22 FOOT WIDE ROAD.
SO WE, WELL, I THINK THAT'S, THAT'S A GOOD POINT IN THIS, IN THIS COLOR POLICY.
THAT, THAT, UH, THEY, THAT'S JUST LIKE OVER BEVERLYWOOD PARK.
THEY ME TO COME OVER AND CLEAN OUT THEIR COAT.
WELL EVERYBODY OUT THERE, THEY, THEY'RE LIKE THIS, THEY'RE ALL UP AND DOWN.
UH, IT WOULD TAKE, YOU'D HAVE TO REMOVE EVERY, ALMOST EVERY COVER.
IT'S GOING TO TAKE THREE MONTHS TO DO THE JOB.
BECAUSE YOU GO IN THERE AND CUT EVERYBODY'S COVERED OUT.
YOU GONNA HAVE TO GO IN THERE AND DO ALL THE DITCHES.
AND I VISIT WITH THE HOMEOWNER ASSOCIATION THAT THEY TAKE ON THIS PROJECT.
THE, BECAUSE THEY NEED TO UPGRADE THEIR DRAINAGE ISSUES.
THAT'S, THAT, UH, HAS BEEN AFTER, SINCE BACK IN THE EARLY EIGHTIES WHEN ABOUT, AND SO OVER YEARS, THE DRAINAGE BECOME ISSUE, GET, BE A REAL ISSUE THAT WOULD BE ADDRESSED BY OUR NEW NUISANCE ABATEMENT.
ITEM J UH, FILLING OR BLOCKING THE DRAINAGE EASEMENT.
FAILING TO MAINTAIN THE DRAINAGE EASEMENT.
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TO THE HOMEOWNER.THE HOMEOWNERS ACTUALLY RESPONSIBLE SHOULD FOR THE COST PROPERTY.
AND ALL OF THEM WERE CONCRETE.
THEY DIDN'T HAVE THAT, UH, TWO FOOT, UH, LITTLE INSPECTION JOINT THERE TO TAKE THE OUT.
THERE, I DON'T THINK ANYBODY DOES THAT, THAT I'VE SAID.
AS WE, AS WE KIND OF TRY TO PUT OUR ARMS AROUND THIS, UH, UH, LET'S LOOK AT THE, THE SECOND ITEM.
LET'S LOOK AT THE, UH,
DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER CLARIFICATIONS ON THAT? I, ON THE FRONT PAGE, SECOND BULLET POINT IN IT WHERE IT SAYS IT IS RECOMMENDED IF PROPERTY OWNER CONTACT RE THAT SHOULD BE REQUIRED.
IF THEY DO SOMETHING, THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO, THEY, WE DIDN'T REQUIRE ME DO IT, BUT WHERE DO YOU READ WHAT WERE PAGE ONE? THE SECOND BULLET POINT, MIDDLE PART OF THE SECOND BULLET POINT, THIRD SENTENCE DOWN WOULD BE REQUIRED.
RECOMMENDED USED TO BE REQUIRED.
REQUIRED TO OBTAIN THE PERMIT AND THEN THEY WOULD BE REQUIRED ALSO PART OF THAT PROCESS WOULD BE TO CONTACT, REFER THEM TO THE APPROPRIATE COMMISSIONER, WHICHEVER PRECINCT.
SO THAT HE COULD, YOU KNOW, HYDROLOGICAL MAPS, I GUESS TO DETERMINE WHAT SIZE TOILET NEEDS TO BE IN A CERTAIN AREA.
AND WE DON'T HAVE THAT ABILITY.
COLLECTION GAUGE CAN HELP A LOT WITH THAT.
WE HAD THAT ISSUE WITH THE GUN RANGE.
HOPEFULLY GET ERS ARE FIRSTHAND, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE INVOLVED IN IT WHERE THEY COULD ACTUALLY NOT BE BLINDSIDE SOMEBODY ELSE.
SO THIS MAP RIGHT HERE, IT SAYS THAT YOU MUST HAVE AN 18 INSTEAD 15.
ARE WE AGREE THAT IT SHOULD GO BACK AND CHANGE THAT TO REQUIRE YES, I BELIEVE IT WOULD BE YES.
BECAUSE IT DOES REQUIRE FURTHER BACK FOR THE PERMIT.
ON PAGE THREE, IT TALKS ABOUT THEM HAVING TO OBTAIN THE CULBERT PERMIT.
AND BRANDON AND I TALKED ABOUT ADDING SOME CERTIFICATION LANGUAGE ON THE PERMIT.
THAT WAY WHEN YOU'RE SIGNING IT, YOU'RE SAYING YOU'RE GONNA ABIDE BY WHAT THE REQUIREMENTS ARE.
YOU KNOW WHAT THE SIGNIFICANCE OF THIS IS.
AS WE CONTINUE TO GROW AS A COUNTY, WE'RE GONNA HAVE MORE AND MORE OF THIS EVERY DAY, YOU KNOW, GOING ON.
SO I THINK IT'S, WE TRY TO TIGHTEN THIS UP AS MUCH AS WE, UH, CAN.
AND, UH, SO, UH, OTHER COMMENTS ON THE, THE COVER POLICY BEFORE WE GO BACK TO QUESTION, UH, ITEM NUMBER ONE.
AND COMMISSIONER, YOU, YOU STILL HAVE A, AN ISSUE WITH THE ADOPTION OF THE, UH, UH, AREAS THAT YOU WERE CONCERNED ABOUT? I DIDN'T.
ITEM ITEM C UNDER, UH, 3.2 C OR THE, WE INTERJECT, MAINTAIN THE PREMISES IN A NEIGHBORHOOD IN A MANNER THAT CREATES AN UNSANITARY ON ITEM E.
MAINTAINING A BUILDING IN A NEIGHBORHOOD IN A MANNER THAT SAFE.
I SAID ITEM A, B, AND F ALL RELATE TO PROPERTY IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND THOSE TWO ITEMS. I WANNA MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND THAT.
THOSE TWO ITEMS ARE SPECIFIC IN STATE LAW.
IS THERE A WAY WE CAN, UH, WORDSMITH, MAYBE THAT'S NOT A GOOD TERM.
IS THERE A WAY WE CAN WORDSMITH THAT, UH, TO MAKE IT GIVE US A LITTLE MORE, UH, FLEXIBILITY PERHAPS? UH, I, I'M NEVER GONNA MAKE RECOMMENDATION THAT WE SHOULD DEVIATE FROM WHAT THE STATUTE SAYS, AND I, I WOULD NOT EITHER.
HOWEVER, WE CAN CONTACT OUR TCEQ.
UM, TANYA APPLE IS WHO I'M THINKING OF JUST BECAUSE SHE'S USUALLY PRETTY KNOWLEDGEABLE ON THIS STUFF AND SEE WHAT SHE SAYS.
SO THE BURDEN WE'RE REALLY DISCUSSING THIS COMMANDER, THE MANNER TO NEIGHBORHOOD NO PREMISES.
NOW ITEM ITEM C SAYS, MAINTAINING PREMISES IN A MANNER PREMISES.
IF YOU LOOK AT THE DEFINITION IS EVERYTHING OUTSIDE OF THE INCORPORATED C IF YOU INTERJECT IN A NEIGHBORHOOD JUST LIKE ITEMS AB, UH, D AND AND L, THEN THAT REGULATES, YOU KNOW, THE SUBSTITUTE OR SOMETHING WITHIN 300 FOOT OF ANOTHER HOUSE.
I DEFINITELY UNDERSTAND OR SUB WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT.
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WHEN I READ THAT CHAPTER, THE ENTIRE CHAPTER, IT JUST SAYS THAT WE MUST ADOPT PROCEDURES THAT ARE CONSISTENT WITH THE STATUTE.THEREFORE, WHAT DOES IT SAY? IT MUST BE CONSISTENT.
WELL, MAYBE IT MUST BE CONSISTENT MEANS TO US IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
I DON'T DUNNO ANYTHING WRONG WITH THAT.
I, I CAN SEE HOW YOU CAN'T ADOPT SOMETHING MORE STRINGENT THAN STATE STATUTE BECAUSE YOU CAN ONLY DO WHAT STATE STATUTE ALLOWS YOU TO DO.
BUT, UH, SAY YOU'RE NOT GONNA DO THAT.
ALRIGHT, AS, AS WE, AND LET, AND REBECCA, I GUESS THIS IS A QUESTION YOU CAN WE ADOPT THESE COVER POLICY, UH, AND MAYBE CONTINUE TO WORK ON THIS FIRST ITEM? YEAH.
'CAUSE I PUT THE LETTER OR THE WORD MAY IN THERE.
SO I MEAN, IT'S NOT GOING TO BE TECHNICALLY A PUBLIC NUISANCE UNTIL WE TAKE IN THAT SUBSECTION J OKAY.
SO WE COULD GO AHEAD AND ADOPT THE, UH, COVER POLICY AND THEN DELAY THE F*****G NUISANCE THING UNTIL WE GET A LITTLE, UH, BETTER, UH, NOT UNDERSTANDING.
IT'S JUST IF THERE'S A WAY WE CAN, UH, WELL WORDSMITH IT TO MAKE IT FIT.
WHAT, UH, SO THE CONSIDERATION IS JUST THAT IT, UNTIL WE RISE UP AND MEET THAT LETTER J SUBSECTION, WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE THE ABILITY TO ASSESS THE FEEDBACK ONTO SOMEONE WHO HAS BEEN PROPERLY PUT IN A CULVER.
SO YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE COUNTY ASSUMING MONEY TO TAKE OUT OF CORBERT THAT'S NOT PROPERLY INSTALLED.
WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO THEN IS LET'S JUST NOT DO ANYTHING ON THIS, UH, ITEM NUMBER ONE ON OUR AGENDA TODAY.
I MEAN, WE'RE NOT GONNA DO ANYTHING ANYWAY.
UH, AND THEN FOR ITEM NUMBER TWO, WE'LL TRY TO HAVE IT ON THE NEXT, UH, AGENDA.
BUT I'D LIKE TO ASK, UH, COMMISSIONER
UH, THEY TO DO WHATEVER WE, WHATEVER WE CAN TO IS THAT AGREEABLE? AGREEABLE TO YOU LOVE COMMITTEE? THANKS SIR.
ALRIGHT, WELL THAT'S, UH, DISCUSSION.
I'LL LEARN SOME THANK WE'LL GO AHEAD AND, UH, ON OUR NEXT AGENDA, UH, FOR NEXT WEEK.
UH, WE'LL, WE'LL, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND I'LL HAVE ITEM TWO, UH, ON THAT.
GO AHEAD AND GET THAT IN PLACE.
THANK YOU RANDY, AND UH, FOR ALL YOUR EFFORTS IN PUTTING THIS, UH, TOGETHER AND, UH, FOR YOUR KNOWLEDGE AND REBECCA AS WELL.
YOU GUYS WILL ON THOSE ALRIGHTYY.
THE NEXT ITEM IS ITEM NUMBER THREE, LAURIE, UH, FLOYD TO DISCUSS CHANGES AND UPDATING THE KAUFFMAN COUNTY PERSONNEL POLICY MANUAL.
SO THIS CUT NOT LATE FRIDAY, I APOLOGIZE.
UH, UM, BUT EVERY COUPLE YEARS WE HAVE TO UPDATE OUR POLICY MANUAL.
SO, UH, THE OVERALL CHANGES ARE JUST CLARIFICATION.
THE THINGS THAT I'VE NOTICED THAT WE'VE HAD ISSUES THROUGH THE YEARS OF PEOPLE QUESTIONING WHAT DOES DISCOUNT, WHAT DOES THIS, SO IT'S MOSTLY JUST WORK CLARIFICATION.
UM, THERE WERE A FEW BIG CHANGES.
WE DID ADD ONE NEW POLICY, WHICH IS A UNIFORM POLICY THAT WAS BROUGHT UP BACK WHEN WE HAD OUR, UM, AUDIT DONE.
IT DOESN'T CHANGE, UM, THE WAY WE WERE DOING THINGS.
IT JUST LET US HAVE A POLICY IN PLACE IT, UH, PRESCRIBES.
AND THAT'S ON THE UNIFORM BOX ON PAGE 15.
BUT IT TALKS ABOUT, UM, UH, THE TAXABLE AND NON-TAXABLE ITEMS AND THOSE THINGS ABOUT THE UNIFORM AND STUFF.
SO IT KIND OF PUTS US IN MIND AND UM, MAKES IT CLEAR, UM, WITH OUR UNIFORMS IF WE HAVE TO TAX 'EM OR NOT.
SO, UM, THE, UM, ALSO TO THE EMPLOYMENT EMPLOYEE STATUS, UH, WE HAD AN ISSUE IN OUR, UM, T CODE REVIEW, MY POLICY AND, UH, HAD INDICATED THAT, UM, WE HAD HAD A TEMPORARY CLASSIFICATION AND, AND THAT IS NO LONGER ACKNOWLEDGED BY THE IRS TEMPORARY STATUS.
SO WE HAVE CHANGED THAT TO, UM, TEMPORARY SEASONAL AND TEMPORARY PART-TIME.
THE ONLY THING, THE ONLY ISSUE WITH THAT IS SOMETIMES THE TEMPORARY SEASONAL CAN QUALIFY FOR HEALTH INSURANCE.
SO I'M STILL GETTING BETTER VERIFICATION ON THAT.
UH, WE HAVE ONE EMPLOYEE RIGHT NOW THAT THAT MAY EFFECT, BUT WE HAVE TIME TO FIX THAT AND ADJUST THAT, UM, IF YOU NEED TO.
SO THERE'S JUST THIS AFFORDABLE CARE IF THERE'S EVER CHANGING ISSUES WITH IT, AND IT'LL BE AN ONGOING THING UNTIL EVERYTHING IS FIGURED OUT.
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THAT'S KIND OF NEW COMING ON THE PIPELINE, SO IT DOESN'T CHANGE THE WAY WE DO ANYTHING AT THIS POINT.IT JUST CLARIFIES OUR CLASSIFICATION OF EMPLOYEE STATUS.
UM, SO WE JUST PAY MORE ATTENTION TO, UM, OUR PART-TIME THAT WE HIRE AND THAT AND THAT KIND OF THING.
UM, I DIDN'T, I WANTED Y'ALL TO, I JUST DIDN'T KNOW IF Y'ALL WANTED TO, UM, THE REHAB POLICY DISCUSSED, UM, CHANGING THAT FROM SIX MONTH PRIOR WHATEVER, I HAVE DISCUSSED THAT MORE IN LENGTH OF TASKS AND UM, DID SOME MORE RESEARCH AND, UM, AFTER ALL THAT, I THINK THAT WE WOULD BE OKAY ON CHANGING IT TO A 30 OR NUMBER ONE FULL CALENDAR MONTH.
IT WOULD MAKE US MORE IN LINE WITH THE STATUTE.
UM, AND WE'D BE MORE CONSISTENT.
I HAVE A LITTLE CONCERN ABOUT, ABOUT IT, JUST MY EXPERIENCE WITH THE SITUATION, BUT WE JUST NEED TO BE VERY CLEAR THAT THERE IS NO BONAFIDE OFFER OF EMPLOYMENT.
SO IF AN EMPLOYEE RETIRED, THERE CAN BE NO AGREEMENT, THERE CAN BE NO STATEMENTS ABOUT THAT.
YOU CAN COME BACK LATER OR WHATEVER.
AND THEN IF THEY DO APPLY, WE CAN POST A POSITION AND THEY DO APPLY FOR THAT POSITION, THEN WE CAN FILL THAT OBLIGATION AND WE SHOULD BE OKAY.
THEY WOULD NEED TO, WE WOULD NEED TO POST AND THEY WOULD NEED TO REAPPLY AND GO THROUGH THE HIRING DUE PROCESS AT THAT POINT.
AND, AND THEY MAY NOT BE GUARANTEED THAT POSITION.
IT MAY BE THEY MAY BE BEST QUALIFIED, WE DON'T KNOW.
BUT, UM, IT WOULD GIVE EVERYONE A OPPORTUNITY CHANCE TO DO THAT.
UM, SO I'M I'M OKAY WITH THAT IF Y'ALL AGREE THAT AS WELL.
STATE REHIRE, THAT'S WHAT THEY SHOULD THE SAME ONE.
YEAH, THAT'S WHAT THEY SHOULD KNOW.
YOU KNOW, HE TALKED ABOUT THE PERMANENT, I MEAN THE PEOPLE THAT RETIRED AND I GUESS I GUESS TALK ABOUT THAT JUST A LITTLE BIT TO MAKE SURE WE, THAT SIX MONTH THING HAVE SOME KIND OF OLD WELL, YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I SAID WITH THE ONE FULL CALENDAR, ONE FULL COUNT, ONE FULL IF THEY ON MAY 1ST, HOLD ON.
IF THEY RETIRE ON MAY 1ST, THEY CANNOT START UNTIL JULY 1ST.
THEY SET OUT ONE FULL CALENDAR MONTH WITH NO CONTRIBUTION TO THAT RETIREMENT SYSTEM.
AND THAT'S KIND ONE THING WE DEFINITELY NEED TO WATCH BECAUSE OF DALLAS WITH THEIR FIRE AND THEIR POLICE DEPARTMENTS RIGHT NOW ARE HAVING AN ISSUE WITH THEIR RETIREMENT, THINGS THAT ARE GOING ON OVER THERE AND IT'S GOING BE TURN OUT TO BE A, THEY, THEY'RE FIXING TO REALLY, I KNOW WITH SOME GUYS THE OTHER DAY TALKING ABOUT LIKE THEY'RE, THEIR RETIREMENT'S GONNA GO BROKE AND ON THE COUNT OF NEVER BEING ABLE TO REHIRE 'EM BACK AND STUFF AND SORT OF CREATE A HUGE MISSILE THERE FOR PEOPLE THAT DID THE RIGHT THING, THEY RETIRE COLLECT.
SO WHEN THEY REHIRE, DO THEY NOT PAY INTO THE PENSION PROGRAM? NO, THEY'RE NOT PAYING.
WELL, OUR RETIREMENT, NEW PEOPLE NOT PAYING.
AND SO WE'RE, WE'RE CREATING A SITUATION HERE AND I I'M NOT REALLY OF, BUT UH, LIKE I SAID, WELL AND OUR, OUR REHIRES, THEY DO, DEPENDING ON HOW WE REHIRE THEM, HOW WE CLASSIFY THEM, THEY DO CONTRIBUTE TO THE RETIREMENT SYSTEM BATTERY.
IF YOU HAVE A RETIREE AND YOU HIRE THEM FULL TIME, THEY CONTRIBUTE, IT STARTS A WHOLE SEPARATE ACCOUNT.
THEY WILL STILL THEIR RETIREMENT CHECK, BUT THEY'RE STARTING A NEW ACCOUNT AND THEY'RE TRYING ALL OVER, THEY'RE VESTED.
SO THEY COULD WORK A MONTH AND RETIRE AGAIN, BUT THEY HAVE ANOTHER SEPARATE ACCOUNT THAT THEY'RE, THEY'RE STARTING NEW MONEY.
IT DOESN'T, BUT WHEN THEY RETIRE, EVEN THEY CAN RETIRE ON IT.
THEY WORK TWO YEARS NOW THEY'RE, DO THEY RUN 'EM TOGETHER OR, OR DO THEY RUN 'EM SEPARATE? TWO SEPARATE, SEPARATE, SEPARATE ACCOUNTS.
SO, BUT IF YOU HIRE THEM A PART-TIME, LIKE A SEASONAL OR UM, A TEMPORARY TYPE PER GOTTA GET AWAY FROM THAT TEMPORARY WORD.
BUT, UM, SOMEONE THAT'S NOT ELIGIBLE TO CONTRIBUTE TO OUR RETIREMENT SYSTEM, THEN NO, THEY'RE NOT CONTRIBUTE TO THEIR RETIREMENT SYSTEM.
AND THAT'S THE REASON I WANTED THE POINT FOR A MONTH YOU GET IN THE JAM AND YOU GOT JOHN DO WHO CAN DO SUCH AND SUCH.
I MAY NEED HIM FOR A WEEK OR ONE DAY A WEEK UNTIL I CAN, YOU CAN REHIRE A FULLTIME OF PERSON AND THAT TYPE OF PERSON NOT CONTRIBUTE.
THAT'S, THAT WAS MY WHOLE DEAL BECAUSE IT HAPPENED TO ME LAST YEAR, HAD ABOUT SIX MONTHS BY THEN THE WHOLE BUILDING SYSTEM JOB.
BUT IN, IN THAT INSTANCE, IT DOES NOT AFFECT OUR RETIREMENT SYSTEM.
IT CAN REHIRE A, A RETIREE OR A SEPARATION.
EVEN SOMEONE THAT'S WITHDRAWN THEIR MONEY, IT DOES NOT AFFECT OUR, THE STABILITY OF OUR RETIREMENT SYSTEM BECAUSE THAT, THAT ACCOUNT THAT THEY RETIRED OFF AND THEY WITHDREW IS CLOSE.
SO THEY'RE NOT GONNA HAVE THAT MUCH MONEY IN THERE.
ONLY THING I THINK IT AFFECTS IS THE ECONOMY ITSELF.
YOU, IF EVERYBODY RETIRES AND THEN TAKES THEIR JOB BACK, IT DOESN'T OPEN UP JOBS FROM YEAH, WE WON'T DO THAT
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AND THAT'S NOT A GOOD THING.OFFER ME, THAT'S JUST NOT A THING.
IT HAS BE NOTIFIED OFFER SEPARATION THAT THEY, THEY KNOW THEY'RE RETIRING, THEY'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT GONNA HIRE THEM BACK.
BUT IF THEY RETIRE AND THEY'RE LIKE, OKAY, I NEED A JOB BACK, THEY HAVE TO GET THAT.
THEY HAVE TO REAPPLY FOR THAT POSITION.
THEY HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE INTERVIEW PROCESS, MAYBE SELECT THEM AGAIN.
SO IF YOU'VE GOT TWO PEOPLE THAT ARE EQUALLY QUALIFIED, I MEAN, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO MAKE THAT DECISION.
SO WELL THEY NEED TO GO TO ANOTHER DEPARTMENT IF THEY COME BACK TO TONIGHT BECAUSE BACK, I MEAN THAT'S, THAT'S PERFECTLY FINE.
IT JUST, I, I THINK I, I MEAN I'M, I'M MORE COMFORTABLE NOW AFTER DOING MORE RESEARCH AND CHATTING A LITTLE BIT THAT IF WE'RE IN COMPLIANCE, WE'RE IN COMPLIANCE WITH, AND THEN WE JUST CLOSELY RELATE TO THE STATUTE.
I BE, THAT'S THE BEAUTY PART OF THE TEXAS COUNTY AND DISTRICT RETIREMENT SYSTEM MORGAN, IT'S NOT LIKE A DEFINED BENEFIT PLAN.
IT'S A TOTALLY DIFFERENT DEAL, LIKE A SAVINGS PLAN.
AND SO BECAUSE THEY DO START AND WE DO TOO, WE CONTRIBUTE BACK TO IT AS WELL IF WE DO RETIRE.
AND YOU'RE NOT MATCHING OFF THAT ONE THAT THEY RETIRED FROM.
YOU'RE MATCHING OFF THAT NEW ACCOUNT, WHICH IS A LOWER DOLLAR AMOUNT BECAUSE THEY'RE STARTING ALL OVER.
WELL DON'T WORRY ABOUT THAT PART.
I JUST LIKE TO CREATE GUNS FOR NEW PEOPLE.
BUT IF, IF YOU SAID THEY COULD BE VESTED AFTER JUST A FEW MONTHS OR WHATEVER, THEY INSTANTLY AND THEY'RE ALREADY INVESTED.
WELL, IT'S THE SAME, IT'S THE SAME SITUATION.
IF WE GET A POLICE OFFICER FROM DALLAS OR NOT DALLAS, ANYBODY OTHER THAT'S RETIRED FROM MANY OTHERS, THEY WALK IN DAY ONE, THEY'RE ALREADY INVESTED.
I MEAN THAT'S JUST THE SYSTEM.
COURSE THEY'RE NOT GOING WRONG THAT DAY TOO.
THEY'RE NOT GETTING, THEY'RE NOT ANYTHING.
AND MOST OF, MOST OF 'EM, THEY USUALLY WORK A COUPLE YEARS, EIGHT YEARS.
UM, FOR
THEY GOTTA WORK EIGHT YEARS FOR US FOR OUR HEALTH INSURANCE.
SO THAT USUALLY KEEPS THEM HERE AT LEAST EIGHT YEARS.
SO YOU YEAH, I DIDN'T KNOW WHATEVER.
UM, THE ALSO, UM, THE VACATION POLICY, UM, I SUGGESTED WE ADD SOME LEARNING INTO THAT.
CURRENTLY THE WAY OUR VACATION POLICY WORKS IS, UM, THEY, UM, NON-EXEMPT BOYS CAN CARRY OVER 40 HOURS.
EXEMPTIVE VOICE CAN CARRY OVER 80 HOURS WITH THEIR ANNIVERSARY DATE.
SO WE'VE HAD A SITUATION, UM, SINCE THIS POLICY'S BEEN PASSED THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY, ESPECIALLY OUT OF THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT, BUT IN OTHER DEPARTMENTS TOO, WHERE THEY JUST TRY AND TRY AND TRY TO TAKE OFF THEIR VACATION TIME AND THEY GET CALLED AGAIN OR SOMEONE HAPPENS AND THEY CAN'T, THEY CANNOT GET, THEY CAN'T TAKE THEIR VACATION TIME OFF AND SO THEY END UP LOSING THAT TIME, WHICH IS FINE AND THAT'S THE WAY OUR POLICY WORKS.
BUT, UM, IF THEY, IF THEY'VE BEEN TRYING TO DO IT, I'VE, I'VE KIND OF IMPLEMENTED AN INTERNAL THING AND I JUST KIND OF WANT TO HAVE IT IN WRITING, UM, THAT I KIND OF WORK THE SUPERVISOR, THEY HAVE TO JUSTIFY TO ME THAT THEY HAVE TRIED TO TAKE THE TIME OFF AND I CAN GO BACK AND LOOK AT THEIR TIME SHEET WHERE THEY'VE REQUESTED IT, IT'S BEEN CANCELED, THEY'VE WHATEVER.
BUT IT ALLOWS THEM TO, UM, ROLL OVER THE, THE, THAT TIME FOR 60 MORE DAYS PAST THEIR ANNIVERSARY DATE.
AND THEN IF THEY CAN'T USE THAT WITHIN THAT 60 DAYS, THEN UM, THEY LOSE IT FOR GOOD.
SO I'VE KIND OF BEEN WORKING WITH SUPERVISORS.
THEY HAVE TO JUSTIFY TO THE NEEDLE THOUGH.
LIKE THEY HAVE TO PROVE YES, WE'VE TRIED TO TAKE A WALK, UM, OR WE'VE HAD BUSY SEASON, I THINK, I DON'T REMEMBER SOMEBODY, I THINK YOU WERE ON A BRIDGE WAS COMING UP ON SUMMERTIME AND THAT'S WHEN THEIR ANNIVERSARY HIT AND THEY JUST COULD NOT LET THEM BE OFF, BUT THEY WERE GONNA LOSE THEIR WHOLE TWO WEEKS.
SO, BUT AFTER, YOU KNOW, AFTER THAT MONTH, THEY COULD TAKE TWO WEEKS OFF.
IT WOULD, YOU KNOW, GOOD DEAL.
UM, SO I JUST WANTED TO ADD THAT IN THERE AND KIND OF PUT IT IN WRITING BECAUSE IT'S THE WAY IT, IT WORKS.
IT'S NOT JUST LIKE I WANTED TO SAVE IT BECAUSE I WANT, I NEED THAT EXTRA TIME.
THEY HAVE TO JUSTIFY THAT THEY'VE ACTUALLY BEEN TRYING TO TAKE THE TIME OFF.
UM, AND THEN ALSO ON THE HOLIDAY POLICY, UM, WE HAVE, WE CHANGED THAT HOLIDAY POLICY A COUPLE YEARS AGO.
UM, BUT THEY HAD TO BE SCHEDULED TO WORK THAT HOLIDAY TO EARN THAT HOLIDAY.
AND UM, IT IS PROBABLY MOSTLY IN THE LAW ENFORCEMENT.
AND IT AFFECTS LAW ENFORCEMENT A LOT.
BUT THE ISSUE HAS COME UP BECAUSE WE, THE POLICY SAYS THE OBSERVED HOLIDAY AND I WOULD LIKE TO CHANGE IT TO ADD THE OFFICIAL HOLIDAY.
'CAUSE THERE'S TIMES WHERE CHRISTMAS FALLS ON A SATURDAY, BUT THEY DON'T GET IT BECAUSE WE ONLY GIVE THEM THE OBSERVED HOLIDAY, WHICH WAS FRIDAY.
AND SO THEY'RE ACTUALLY WORKING THE OFFICIAL HOLIDAY AND NOT THE OBSERVED HOLIDAYS HOLIDAY, WHICH I DON'T THINK IS GOOD THERE.
SO I WOULD LIKE TO IMPLEMENT, IT'S JUST THAT ADDING OBSERVED AN INITIAL HOLIDAY.
THEY LIKE TWO AND A HALF TIMES REGULAR.
SO THEY'RE, THEY'RE NOT WORKING, THEY'RE OFF.
THEY WORK, THEY BE OFF BE, BUT THEY WORK AN
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OFFICIAL HOLIDAY AND THEN THEY DON'T GET CREDIT FOR THAT HOLIDAY DAY.SO A SUGGESTION, UM, I BELIEVE EVERYTHING ELSE, UH, THE FUNERAL LEAVE WE DID ADD TO INCLUDE STEPFAMILY MEMBERS.
WE'VE ALWAYS ALLOWED THAT TO HAPPEN.
THAT WORDING IS JUST NOT IN THE POLICY.
UM, WELL MOST OF THE OTHER ONES ARE JUST CLARIFICATIONS.
OH, ON THE SEPARATIONS WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT SEVERAL TIMES OVER THE LAST YEAR THAT Y'ALL WANTED TO IMPLEMENT AN EXIT INTERVIEW REQUIREMENT.
SO THAT'S ADDING THAT WE WOULD START DOING THOSE, UM, AND KIND OF WHAT Y'ALL WANT IN THAT PROCESS.
BUT, UM, AND AS FAR AS THAT, I THINK THAT IS ALL OF THE CHANGES TO IT.
EVERYTHING ELSE IS JUST CLARIFICATION.
OH, ACTUALLY ON THE DRUG AND ALCOHOL POLICY, UM, TACK HAD REVIEWED OURS AND UM, SHE PRETTY MUCH SAID SHE DIDN'T RANK IT AT ALL AND
SO IT'S THE SAME POLICY, THE SAME WORDS.
IT'S JUST BETTER CLARIFICATION IN THEIR WORDING AND WHAT WE HAVE HAD.
I KNOW Y'ALL KIND OF GOT THIS KIND OF LATE AND I APOLOGIZE, BUT UM, UH, LOOK AT THIS BEFORE WE PUT IT ON THE AGENDA.
NOTIFICATION THERE'S ANYTHING YEAH.
THE ONLY THING THAT I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT THIS A LITTLE BIT MORE IS THE UNI UNIFORM POLICY.
BECAUSE IT, BECAUSE ITS LIKE IT I UNDERSTAND, BUT I MEAN IT, IT FEELS LIKE DOUBLE TALKING ITSELF IN THE, BECAUSE IT, BECAUSE IT SAYS THE CLOSING MUST MUST NOT BE SUITABLE FOR TAKING TO THE POLICE, YOU KNOW, AND TAKING THE PLACE IN REGULAR CLOSING.
MY THING IS, SHOULD WE HAVE A SPECIAL ROAD? WHICH POLICY OR SHOULD? YEAH.
AND THAT'S WHAT THIS INDICATES.
THIS INDICATES THAT THIS IS THE BASELINE FOR ANYBODY THAT DOES NOT HAVE A POLICY.
SO IF Y'ALL HAVE AN INTERNAL DEPARTMENT POLICY, YOU CAN HAVE THAT.
I'M JUST SAYING SHOULD WE, THAT'S WHAT I'M ASKING.
SHOULD WE, BECAUSE THEORETICALLY MANAGERS AND YOURS, NONE OF THESE CLOTHING WOULD TAKE THE PLACE OF REGULAR CLOTHING.
BUT, UH, BECAUSE THEY GET EVERYTHING ON MM-HMM
SO IT MAKES, YOU KNOW, IT MAKES NO SENSE.
WE DON'T HAVE ANY PROBLEM WHATSOEVER THE WAY IT IS.
WELL, THE ISSUE IS, YOU KNOW, LIKE WITH MY MEN ON THEIR SHIRT THAT'S GOT THEIR NAME'S, GOT GOT THE KAUFMAN COUNTY BADGE.
SUPPOSED TO HAVE SOMETHING ON THEIR PEN LEG OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT THAT EITHER HAD THEIR NAME, UH, OR, OR THE KAUFMAN COUNTY LOGO.
I ASKED POLICY THAT IT DOESN'T MATTER IF IT HAS MAINTAIN, YOU COULD STILL, IF YOU HAVE A POLO SHIRT, UH, LIKE, LIKE HIS, IF HE'S WEARING THIS IN REGULAR, IF HE WEARS THAT OUT IN PERSONAL TIME AND THEORETICALLY BY LAW THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO CHARGE YOU, JUST BECAUSE IT HAS A NAME SHOW DOESN'T MEAN THAT IT DOESN'T LIKE WEARING TOOK PLAY OFF IN.
UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S KIND OF, IT'S KIND OF A CATCHY, IT'S, IT, IT'S A, IT'S A STUPID WORDS.
I DON'T KNOW WHO THEY'RE TRYING TO CATCH.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE DEAL IS.
I THINK THEY'RE TRYING TO CATCH A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT'S TAKING $10,000 SUITS OFF THEIR IRS BECAUSE THEY SAY IT'S A UNIFORM.
PERSONALLY, CAN WE DO THAT BUT, HUH? CAN WE DO THAT? YEAH, I DID.
I'M JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT, I JUST DON'T WANT YEAH.
I THINK BY TRUCKLOAD, I THINK LORI'S SUGGESTION IS JUST THAT, YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? I JUST DON'T WANT US GET CAUGHT.
I DON'T KNOW WHERE POLICY, IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? THAT'S WHAT I WOULD DO.
I MEAN OUR OFFICE HAS ONE, I KNOW SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT PROBABLY HAS THEIR OWN, IT'S, IT JUST KIND OF EASIER THAT WAY.
YOU'RE CREATING A LOOPHOLE FOR EACH INDEPENDENT DEPARTMENT IN YOUR OVERARCHING POLICY THAT GUYS DON'T BUY THEIR UNIFORM.
AND THE IS REVENUE SAID THAT IF YOU HAD THE SHIRTS WITH THE LOGO THAT SAID COFFMAN COUNTY, THAT WAS LEGIT.
WE HAVE THE SAME PROBLEM WITH OUR INVESTIGATORS IN CID BECAUSE THEY DO NOT DRESS IN UNIFORM AS THE DEPUTIES DO.
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THE ISSUE I DID, I DID, I DID TALK TO TWO DIFFERENT IRS AGENTS AND, AND BOTH OF 'EM SAID THAT THEY WOULD NOT EVEN ATTEMPT TO CHARGE A ROAD AND CREW GUY WEARING BLUE DINGS IF IT WAS RENTED FROM A RENTAL COMPANY.THEY SAID THERE'S NO WAY IN THE WORLD THAT ANYBODY THEY SAID HAD BE TOLD.
SHE DIDN'T, SHE DIDN'T TACKLE THAT.
SHE ASKED THINK WAS BECAUSE WE DON'T, YOU KNOW, AND I'M JUST TRYING TO MAKE SURE WE'RE CLEAR AS MUD, YOU KNOW, THAT, THAT, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE EVERYTHING THEY WEAR GETS TORE UP EITHER OIL OR OIL GREASE.
IT'S NOT A, IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT THEY'RE NOT GONNA WEAR IN THE CHURCH.
YOU KNOW, AND, AND REGULAR OLD COTTON PANTS DON'T LIKE TOUGH JEANS.
YOU KNOW, THOSE UNIFORM JEANS ARE REALLY BIG.
BUT SO WHAT, WHAT'S YOUR PLEASURE ON THIS? I DON'T KNOW.
I MEAN, I THINK I TO DO MORE RESEARCH ON IT TOO.
I MEAN, I'M NOT SUGGESTING THAT WE PASS THIS NEXT WEEK, BUT IT DOES NEED TO GET, I MEAN, WE CAN ALWAYS UPDATE OUR POLICY AND NOT PASS THE SHARE UNIFORM POLICY, BUT IF WE REALLY NEED TO GET OVERALL POLICY JUST UPDATED, 'CAUSE WE'RE SUPPOSED TO DO THAT EVERY COUPLE YEARS.
SO I'LL BE HAPPY TO DO MORE RESEARCH ON THE UNIFORM POLICY.
I REALLY THINK THAT Y'ALL ARE OKAY IN THAT REGARD.
I DON'T THINK, BECAUSE THE WAY THAT THEY'RE, UM, THE WAY Y'ALL DO IT WITH RENTAL THINGS LIKE THAT.
UM, AND THEN THERE WASN'T A BIG DEAL ABOUT IT.
BUT I, I JUST, IT'S ALWAYS GREAT TO HAVE A POLICY IN PLACE IF Y'ALL WANT TO CREATE ANOTHER POLICY ON YOUR OWN AS SPECIFICALLY ADDRESSES IT.
WE'RE NOT GONNA GET IN TROUBLE WITH IS I'M NOT WORRIED ABOUT IT BECAUSE WE CAN ALL CREATE OUR OWN THING, BUT I MEAN, HAVE BACK ON WHAT WE DO.
I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT CO COUNTY'S GONNA COME IN HERE AND ARGUE WITH US.
ALRIGHT, LET'S, LET'S DO THIS ONE.
YOU AND, UH, COMMISSIONER SHANE WORKED WITH LAURIE AND WITH UH, UH, KAREN TRYING TO COME UP WITH SOMETHING AND THE OTHER COMMISSIONER SHARE YOUR AND DEPARTMENT HEADS FOR THAT MATTER, SHARE YOUR THOUGHTS SO WE CAN KIND OF GET THAT WRAPPED AROUND.
AND ANY OTHER ISSUE THAT YOU HAVE WITH HIS NOR NOT HAVE SOME TYPE OF UNIFORM.
ACTUALLY I MIGHT HAVE GOTTEN THIS FROM THAT.
IS ALL THIS IN RED ON PAGE 15? YES.
ANYTHING RED IN THE POLICY IS STILL NEW.
UM, LEMME DO SOME, I MEAN THIS THE WAY IT STATES AND THE WAY IT RUB, YOU KNOW, IT, IT, IT, WELL IT'S LIKE OKAY, YOU CAN DO IT, BUT YOU CAN'T DO IT.
YOU KNOW, THEY PUT THAT DOWN THERE AND THEY LISTEN.
YOU KNOW, I MEAN THAT'S WHAT THEY TAKE GIRL ON THEY DICK TOO.
SO, I MEAN, BUT GOOD THING IS THEY DON'T WEAR A MO DOESN'T THAT MINE, YOU KNOW, THE MOST DON'T CHANGE RIGHT THERE, KAREN.
I THINK THAT KIND OF COVERS US TOO, BECAUSE WE DON'T LET THEM TAKE IT HOME.
WELL THEY, THEY DON'T, THAT'S, AND I THINK THAT WHERE THEIR HOME, THE COMMUNITY, THEY DON'T, I DON'T THINK CHANGE.
KAREN, YOU HAVE SOME TIME TODAY.
NOT, NOT ON THE UNIFORM POLICY.
I, I HAVE SOMETHING I WANT TO ADDRESS THAT SHE BROUGHT UP.
UH, I LIKE THE CHANGES THAT SHE'S MAKING 'CAUSE IT CLARIFIES MORE STUFF TO ME THAT HAD EACH COMMISSIONER HAVING AN INTERNAL POLICY, THEY CAN DO THAT, BUT THEY'RE GONNA GO ON THE ONE THAT ACTUALLY WAS VOTED FOR IN COURT.
IF THEY WANTED TO REDO IT, THE POLICY TO SEE WHAT WE'RE DOING.
SO THAT I THINK IT'S A GOOD THING THAT THEY GET TOGETHER OR WE GET TOGETHER TO GET 'EM SOME KIND OF POLICY INFORMATION AND THEN THEY ADOPT IT AS PART OF THAT PERSONNEL POLICY.
I'M REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT THE, SO, UH, WITH THE COMPENSATED ACCESSES, UH, SIMPLY FOR THE REASON, IF THEY ARE ALLOWED TO ACCRUE TOO MUCH, I DON'T WANT 'EM TO LOSE THEIR TIME.
DON'T SAY I'M SAYING THAT PLEASE DON'T THINK, I'M THINK, BUT IT CAUSES OUR COMPENSATED ABSENCES PAYABLE TO GO UP ON OUR BALANCE SHEET.
IT AFFECTS AUDIT, OUR FUND BALANCE IN THE AUDIT BECAUSE WE HAVE TO DESIGN A REPORT THANKS TO LORI AND S ST.
WE GOT S ST W OUT OF THE PICTURE.
AND WE'RE USING NO TIME TO GIVE US THAT REPORT FOR THE OUTSIDE AUDITORS.
AND IT AFFECTS OUR AUDIT WHEN THE COMPENSATED ABSENCES ARE ALLOWED TO GET TOO HIGH.
SOMETHING ON THE RETIREES, YOU NEED TO KEEP IN MIND.
WE HAVE ABOUT $8 MILLION ON THE BOOKS OF UNFUNDED
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LIABILITY.IF EVERYBODY THAT WAS ELIGIBLE TO RETIRE RETIRED WHAT THEY WOULD, WE WOULD BE IN TROUBLE IN OUR, IN OUR PENSION PLAN, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE OF THAT UN FUNDED LIABILITIES.
SO THAT'S SOMETHING YOU NEED TO KEEP IN MIND WHEN YOU START CHANGING POLICIES AND ADDING STUFF TO IT, HOW IT'S GONNA AFFECT US IN THE END.
NOT SAYING IT'S A BAD THING RIGHT NOW, YOU JUST NEED TO KEEP IT IN MIND.
AND I, I DON'T KNOW THAT I, NOT THAT IT MAKES IT RIGHT, BUT I WOULD IMAGINE PROBABLY EVERY COUNTY IN THE STATE HAS, HAS THAT SAME YEAH, THEY DO HAVE NEW REFUNDED LIABILITY.
THE ONE THING IF SOMEBODY BEFORE THEY'RE VESTED RETIRES AND THEY DON'T EVER WORK FOR ANOTHER ENTITY THAT'S A PART OF T-C-D-R-S, THEY DON'T GET A PORTION THAT THE COUNTY RIGHT.
SO, WHICH HELPS MAKE OUR, WHICH MAKES OUR UNFUNDED GO DOWN A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE WE, THEY GET TO KEEP WHAT WE'VE INVESTED AS THAT PERSON.
THEY TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION WHEN THEY'RE, THEY FIGURE THE AUDIT.
UH, PART OF THAT COMES FROM OUR ACTUARIAL REPORT THAT THEY DO EVERY TWO YEARS AS A REQUIREMENT THAT, UM, WE GET ONLINE WITH TCRS AND I DOWNLOAD THE ACTUAL REPORT FOR THE OUTSIDE AUDITORS SO THEY CAN LOOK AND SEE IF, IF THEY HAVE TO REPORT IN THE AUDIT ABOUT THE PENSION PLAN AND WHAT THE LIABILITIES AND UNFUNDED ARE.
SO THEY LOOK AT IT TO KIND OF TELL US ARE WE AT RISK? IS SOMETHING WRONG? DOES SOMETHING LOOK FUNNY? SO YEAH.
BUT THAT'S THE ONLY WAY TO REALLY AFFECT US IS EVERYBODY, IF THE ELDER ARE RETIRED, RETIRED, THAT'S WHERE THAT, THAT'S WHERE, AND PROBABLY THE ONLY REASON THEY DO IT IS BECAUSE THEY'RE GONNA GET THEIR JOB BACK.
THAT'S WHY I SAY THAT'S WHAT I DON'T LIKE ABOUT WELL THAT'S ONE WAY CLASSIFYING THOSE WORKERS IF YOU'RE GONNA BRING THEM BACK, STARTS 'EM AS A NEW NEW ACCOUNT SO IT DOESN'T AFFECT THE OTHER ACCOUNTS.
SO THAT HELPS IN THE WAY SHE'S CLASSIFIED NOW.
WELL, AND THEY DO START THAT ACCOUNT.
SO LAURIE, WOULD YOU TAKE, UH, CARE OF CALLING EVERYBODY TOGETHER AND KNOW EVERYTHING NEEDS TO BE THERE AND THEN IF AS OTHERS OF YOU THAT ARE IN HERE AND COMMISSIONERS PLUS, UH, IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS THAT NEED TO BE SENT TO LAURA TO TRY TO GET THOSE SO WE CAN, UH, WORK THROUGH THOSE AND WE'LL, UH, COME BACK.
WE TO GET, WE NEED TO GET IT EVEN IF WE, UH, LEAVE OUT THE UNIFORM POLICY.
SO NEED TO GET THE POLICY UPDATED.
WELL, AND IT MAY BE, YOU MAY WANT TO COME BACK WITH SOME OF IT.
AND THEN, BUT LET'S NOT DO THAT UNTIL WE GET CORRECT.
THE, UH, NEXT ITEM IS ITEM NUMBER FOUR, UH, LORI TO DISCUSS RISK MANAGEMENT POOL REIMBURSEMENT PAROLE WITH THE TEXAS ASSOCIATION OF CANCER.
SO THIS IS A NEW PROGRAM AND TECH CAME DOWN, UM, A FEW WEEKS AGO AND MET WITH A COUPLE OF US.
AND THIS IS A NEW PROGRAM THAT THEY ARE STARTING AND IT'S BASED ON OUR, UM, INSURANCE, UH, LINES OF COVERAGES THAT WE HAVE WITH TAC.
SO IN THAT LITTLE THING THAT I GAVE Y'ALL THE FIRST, UH, COUPLE PAGES IN THERE, IT EXPLAINS A LITTLE BIT, BUT WE ARE ELIGIBLE, UM, FOR $45,000 IN REIMBURSEMENT ON OUR RISK MANAGEMENT SIDE.
ANY PROJECTS CAN DO THAT AND ANY PROJECTS FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT UP TO $20,000.
SO, UM, BUT WE HAVE TO APPLY FOR THESE PROJECTS.
WE CAN'T, UM, WE CAN'T DO SOMETHING THAT WE'VE ALREADY HAD, UM, DONE.
WE CAN'T RE ASK REIMBURSEMENT ON PARTIES WE'VE ALREADY HAVE TO HAVE DONE.
WE HAVE TO APPLY FOR IT, THEY HAVE TO APPROVE IT, THEN WE, UM, FUND IT AND COMPLETE IT AND THEN WE SUBMIT REIMBURSE MONEY FOR IT.
BUT, UM, WHAT IT IS, IS THAT THEY ARE TRYING TO HELP GIVE US MONEY TO, UM, MAKE OUR COUNTY A SAFER PLACE THAT'S GONNA REDUCE OUR LINES OF COVERAGES PRETTY MUCH.
SO IF WE HAVE, UM, A LOT OF, UM, I DON'T KNOW A LOT OF, I CAN'T EVEN THINK OF ANYTHING BUT, UM,
I'VE ASKED, UH, BOBBY, HEY, YOU CAN GO, I ASKED BOBBY TO COME.
I'VE MENTIONED IT TO HIM A LITTLE BIT AND HE HAD A COUPLE OF IDEAS.
UM, 'CAUSE HE'S KIND OF BEEN AROUND TO THE DIFFERENT BUILDINGS AND KIND OF SEE WHERE THERE'S NEEDS.
HE SEES THAT THERE'S CONCERNS IN THAT.
SO WE HAVE A DEADLINE, UM, TO SUBMIT THE APPLICATION IS JULY 1ST.
I WOULD LIKE TO NOT WAIT UNTIL JULY 1ST.
I'D LIKE TO GET IT IN, UM, BEFORE JUNE, OR EXCUSE ME, BEFORE JULY AND SOMETIME IN JUNE, GET THE APPLICATION IN.
SO IT'S KIND OF, YOU KIND OF NEED TO DISCUSS
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LIKE, YOU KNOW, WHAT OPTIONS YOU HAVE IN YOUR PRECINCT THAT YOU MIGHT SEE THAT WE COULD IMPROVE ON.UM, AND, AND IT'S PRETTY BROAD SPECTRUM.
I MEAN WE HAVE TO JUSTIFY WHY AND WHAT PURPOSE IT WILL SERVE.
ALL OF THOSE THINGS WE HAVE TO JUSTIFY ON.
TODD TOLD US THAT DAY, THE EARLIER WE GET THIS IN, THE BETTER WE ARE, WE GET FURTHER LINE.
BUT LIKE IF WE NEED UH, ROUTE ROAD CREW, WE DON'T HAVE ANY SIGNS.
YOU KNOW, THE SAFETY BET, SOMEBODY HURTING THEIR BACK, STUFF LIKE THAT.
THERE'S ALL SORTS OF THINGS THAT THEY USE.
WAS HE NOT GONNA SEND US SOME SAMPLES OF UH, UH THERE ON, BUT NO, HE'S NOT.
THERE SOME THINGS THAT I CHANGED, I PUT A LOT OF PROGRAMS IN WHEN WHEN I COME HERE, ONE OF THEM, YOU KNOW, I CHANGED FROM BEST.
I MADE ALL MY SHIRTS ARE FLEXING NOW BECAUSE I DIDN'T LIKE I MADE, STARTED ALL WEARING SAFETY, ALL GLOVES.
THEY ALL HAVE, YOU KNOW, I WENT DOWN THE LIST BECAUSE SO MANY, I MEAN JUST HELP WITH OUR LOSSES, WORKER'S COMP OR RIGHT.
WE'RE ELIGIBLE FOR MORE, MORE MONEY BECAUSE OF, AND THEY'RE BASED IT ON SIZE TOO.
BUT ALSO 'CAUSE WE HAVE ALL LINES OF COVERAGES WITH TAT IT MAKES US HAVE MORE MONEY.
SO IF WE ONLY HAVE WORKERS' COMP, WE DON'T, WE GIVE US LOT PERCENT.
BUT ON THE, ONE OF THE LAST PAGES IN THAT OLD PACKET, IT'S BLUE.
IT HAS SOME EXAMPLES THERE OF JUST IDEAS.
I MEAN WE CAN GO WAY OVERBOARD IT.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANNA INTERVENE ON ANY IDEAS OR ANYTHING, BUT, UM, WE CAN GO AS FAR AS Y'ALL WANT TO GO WITH IT.
WE JUST HAVE TO JUSTIFY WHY AND WHAT PERMIT SERVE PUTTING THAT IN.
SO I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE SOME IDEAS SO I CAN GO AND START THE APPLICATION.
BUT LAUREN, THAT PACKAGE GAVE YOU DOESN'T HAVE SHEET.
DOES THIS ONE? SORRY, BUT I MEAN, DOES THIS TAKE COURT APPROVAL OR IS IT YES.
I'LL HAVE TO BRING IT TO COURT TO GET THE APPLICATION APPROVED.
WELL, WOULD YOU HAVE TO PUT IN WITH THE APPLICATION? YEAH.
I CAN'T TAKE IT TO COURT UNTIL WE HAVE A COMPLETED APPLICATION.
YOU DON'T HAVE A COMPLETE APPLICATION AND NOT COURT WILL BE READY MONDAY.
Y'ALL DON'T, WE DON'T HAVE IDEAS TO GIVE YET.
SO, UM, BUT WE NEED TO ACT PRETTY QUICKLY ON IT.
SO, AND I, WE, YOU KNOW, WE MADE IT THE LAST MEETING MONTH.
WE UH, LAURA, DO YOU NEED A, A COST ON EACH ITEM? LIKE YES, WE HAVE TO BREAK DOWN THE COST, HOW WE'RE GONNA DO IT, WHY WE'RE GONNA DO IT.
AND, AND TODD, UM, TODD TODD'S OUR, UH, CONSULTANT FOR
HE JUST KIND OF SAID, YOU KNOW, THE BETTER YOUR STORY, THE BETTER THE CHANCE YOU'RE GONNA GET THAT MONEY.
OH, WE CAN BE PRETTY CREATIVE.
IF WE, IF WE JUST SAY WE WANT TO BUY SAFETY SHOES AND THAT'S IT.
WELL, WHY? WHAT'S GOING ON? WHAT HAPPENED? LIKE IF SOMETHING THAT OCCURRED OR WHAT WE NOTICED OR WHATEVER, WE HAVE TO HAVE A PRETTY, PRETTY GOOD STORY.
THE BOOTS THEM ALL THE CERTAIN SOS AND EVERYTHING ELSE WOULD'VE BEEN AT THE BEGINNING THERE.
LAURIE, HOW MANY DEPART TO ANY DEPARTMENT? I NEED TO GET A MESSAGE OUT TO EACH PERSON.
ANY DEPARTMENT THAT THEY SEE SOMETHING.
AND THAT'S WHY IF THERE'S SOMETHING IN THE BUILDING, LIKE IT IS, UM, A CARPET, A HAZARD, IS ANYBODY TRIPPING OVER SOME CARPET AND WE NEED TO GET CARPET REPLACED.
IF YOUR TILE HAZARD WE NEED GET THAT REPLACED, UM, IS A WALL A DOOR MESSED UP THAT'S GONNA FALL AND HURT SOMEBODY? WE NEED TO GET THAT REPLACED.
SO IT'S NOT JUST ON UM, A EQUIPMENT.
IT COULD BE ON STRUCTURE BECAUSE WE HAVE OUR PROPERTY LINE IRON.
IS IT GONNA, IS THERE SOMETHING THAT'S CAUSING, YOU KNOW, DAMAGE EVERY TIME IT RAINS AND WE NEED IT.
YOU KNOW, IF ANYTHING THAT'S GONNA REDUCE OUR LINE OF COVERAGE WITH THEM AND WE HAVE PROPERTY COVERAGE WITH THEM.
SO IF IT'S GOING TO, YOU KNOW, HELP IN THAT REGARDS, THEN WE CAN APPLY FOR IT.
SO I'D LIKE TO GET THE APPLICATION LIKE QUICK.
DOES IT, DO THEY PAY, THEY PAY 45,000 ON EACH TIME? NO, THAT'S A TOTAL
THE TOTAL ON P SUBMIT AND THEN 20,000 OF IT HAS TO BE JUST LAW ENFORCEMENT SIDE.
SO IT HAS TO BE SOMETHING FOR THE SAFETY LAW ENFORCE.
WELL IT SHOULD BE FOR A PRECINCT.
HOW ABOUT THAT SUSPENDED RIGHT.
NEXT TIME YOU SEE AND IT CANNOT, IT CANNOT BE SOMETHING THAT WE'VE ALREADY DONE AND WE CANNOT START THE
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PROJECT OR PAY FOR THE PROJECT UNTIL WE HAVE BEEN APPROVED FOR THAT PROJECT.SO IT CAN'T BE SOMETHING THAT'S LIKE, CAN'T BE SOMETHING WE'RE ALREADY DO.
NO, THAT'S THE MONEY PROVIDED FOR FUTURE.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON NUMBER? SO IF Y'ALL COULD SEND ME THOSE LIKE THINGS I CAN GET THE APPLICATION PROCESS FROM Y'ALL.
SO THIS THING SAYS THE APPLICATION MUST BE IN BY JULY 1ST.
AND THEN, UH, WHAT'S THE DECEMBER DECEMBER'S WHEN WE PAY IT, PAY THE MONEY.
SO WE HAVE TO, WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING OR WE CAN GO AHEAD WITH THE PROJECT.
ONCE IT'S BEEN APPROVED, WE GO AHEAD AND START THE PROJECT AND COMPLETED, THEN I HAVE TO SEND IN UM, PROOF COMPLETED.
SO NOTICE, I MEAN, WHAT'S THE DEADLINE APPROVAL? AUGUST.
THINK IT AUGUST, AUGUST SHORT.
WE'LL KNOW BY AUGUST IF WE'VE BEEN APPROVED.
AND THEN WE CAN START THE PROCESS.
BUT THEN THEY WILL NOT RE YEAH, HERE IT'S ON THE RED SHEET.
UM, IT'S, YEAH, IT SAYS JULY FIRST'S APPLICATION AND THEN THEY'LL, THEY'LL NOTIFY US BY AUGUST 1ST.
SO WE MAY NOT, DEPENDING ON, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE SUBMIT, THEY MAY NOT APPROVE ALL OF THAT MONEY.
WE CAN JUST GET UP TO THAT AMOUNT OF MONEY BECAUSE IT, BY THE TIME WE GET APPROVED, THERE MAY NOT BE ALL THAT MONEY LEFT.
SO SOONER WE, THE BETTER WE ARE, THEY MIGHT ALREADY BE GONE.
BECAUSE THERE'S A HUGE POT OF MONEY, BUT THERE'S NOT A HUGE POT OF MONEY FOR EVERYBODY.
LIKE THEY, THEY GAVE OUT NUMBERS, LIKE COUNTIES WERE ELIGIBLE FOR SO MUCH MONEY, BUT THAT WHAT THEY'RE ELIGIBLE FOR IS A LOT MORE THAN THE POT OF MONEY THAT THEY HAVE.
WELL THEY PICKED THE PROJECTS THAT WE, I MEAN IF THEY NEED PROJECTS AND THEY OWN ONLY TWO, THEY'RE GONNA SHIRTS.
YOU KNOW, IF Y'ALL HAVEN'T DONE NO LAUNDRY ALREADY, THAT'D BE A GOOD ONE BECAUSE BOY, IT IT TAKES AWAY AN EXTRA PIZZA CLOTHING IN THE SUMMERTIME.
ONCE THEY'RE APPROVED AUGUST 1ST, THEN UM, I HAVE TO SUBMIT, I BELIEVE THAT'S MOST OF THE 45,000.
I HAVE TO SUBMIT ALL THE RECEIPTS THAT SHOW THAT WE DID THAT BY DECEMBER 1ST AND THEN THEY'LL PAY US BY JANUARY 1ST.
SO IT HAS TO BE SOMETHING TOO THAT WE CAN AFFORD TO FUND BECAUSE WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO PAY FOR IT.
WHERE, AND THEN VOTE REIMBURSEMENT.
WE, IF IT'S UNIFORM, IF CHANGE IT.
IF IT'S UNIFORM ADJUSTMENTS, THAT'S GOING TO BE AN ONGOING EXPENSE.
SO, UH, WELL NO, BECAUSE WE DIDN'T BUY THOSE KIND.
BUT YOU PAY YOUR RENTAL SO THAT IT'LL IT'LL YEAH, THE COST WILL BE EVERY MONTH WHEN YOU PAY LEAVES.
I, I DOUBT THAT THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT THEY, BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT GONNA APPROVE AN ONGOING EXPENSE.
THEY'LL SAY, OKAY, WE'LL GIVE YOU YOUR FIRST MONTH.
MAYBE NOT NOW GET SOME STEEL TO BOOTS.
IF Y'ALL COULD TAKE THOSE, YOUR IDEAS, STUFF SUBMITTED TO ME FAIRLY QUICKLY.
I CAN START THE APPLICATION FILLING IT OUT.
'CAUSE I HAVE TO FILL OUT AN APPLICATION FOR EACH PROJECT.
AND KEEP IN MIND IT DOESN'T JUST HAVE TO BE EQUIPMENT.
IT CAN ALSO BE, YOU KNOW, THINGS TO A BUILDING, TO A PROPERTY.
ALRIGHT, LET'S, UH, WE'LL TAKE A BREAK HERE IN A MINUTE, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND COVER ITEM NUMBER FIVE.
UH, AND THAT IS, UH, COMMISSIONER LIK DISCUSS TRACKING PROCEDURES UTILIZED BY THE COUNTY PURCHASING DEPARTMENT WITH THE PO SYSTEM AND ASSETS HAVE NOT BEEN ASSIGNED OUT TO ANY DEPARTMENT WITHIN COLTON COUNTY.
LISA, WOULD YOU LIKE TO COME UP? MR. YOU'D LIKE TO, UH, TELL US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THIS.
AND I VISITED YOU, LISA, ABOUT THIS AND UM, KIND OF CURIOUS AND BECAUSE SHE EXPLAINED WHAT WE'RE DOING NOW, I BELIEVE CORRECTLY, I, YOU KNOW, HERE'S SOME INVOICES ON, UH, SOME COMPUTERS HERE IS UH, I GUESS FIVE COMPUTERS BOUGHT.
UH, THEY, YOU KNOW, GOT, GOT POS AND EVERYTHING.
I MEAN EVERYTHING IS GOOD ON THAT.
BUT I ASKED YOU WHAT THE PROCESS AND HERE KNOW WITH UH, I GUESS SIX, SIX COMPUTERS AND EIGHT MONITORS.
AND I KNOW WHEN WE GET MERCHANDISED, YOU KNOW, WE PUT A PROPERTY ID TAG THAT'S HOW THEY TRACK IT.
AND UM, WE, I TALKED TO HER ABOUT IT AND APPARENTLY WE DON'T PUT PROPERTY ID TAGS ON STUFF WHEN IT COMES IN.
IT'S JUST ID TAGS WHEN IT GOES OUT TO A DEPARTMENT.
IT'S WHENEVER IT'S, IT IS ENTERED INTO INVENTORY AND IT'S ENTERED INTO IT INVENTORY UNTIL IT'S DISPERSED
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TO THE END USER.AND IF YOU CHECK, THAT'S WHY I PASS EVERYBODY OUT POLICIES, THE PROCEDURES, UH, ON THE ASSET PO ASSET POLICY AND THE PURCHASING POLICY, IT STATES THAT IT'S THE END USER'S RESPONSIBILITY TO TO LOG THAT INTO THEIR INVENTORY.
BUT MY QUESTION, I MEAN I MAY BE THE ONLY ONE HERE THAT FACE THIS AS A PROBLEM, I DON'T KNOW.
BUT YOU KNOW, WE'VE HAD PEOPLE KILLED OVER SOME COMPUTERS THAT WERE TAKEN AND THAT UM, YOU KNOW, WERE NOT ASSIGNED TO ANYBODY, I GUESS SO DEPARTMENT.
AND THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT I'M ASKING.
SHOULD WE CHANGE THEIR POLICY TO WHERE THAT'S WHAT YOU WANT TO WHERE INVENTORY SHOULD BE TAGGED WHEN IT'S ACCEPTED? YOU KNOW, SOME DEPARTMENT HEAD IS REQUIRED TO SIGN OFF WHATEVER PURCHASE DEPARTMENT HEAD OR ELECTED OFFICIAL.
WELL I WENT AHEAD AND SENT THIS OUT ON OUR LIST, SIR, JUST TO GET AN IDEA AND WHAT ARE WE DO IT SAME WAY WE DO.
IT'S PUT IN LIKE A HOLDING ACCOUNT OR STILL IT IS ENTERED INTO IT HOWEVER YOU WANT TO.
I MEAN IT'S, IT'S BASICALLY THE SAME.
IT'S JUST SOME PEOPLE CALL IT DIFFERENT THINGS.
SOME PEOPLE CALL IT HOLDING ACCOUNT, SOME IT'S ISSUED, YOU KNOW, IN OR ENTERED INTO THE IT INVENTORY.
AND SOME OF 'EM JUST HAD LOANERS, SOME, NOT VERY MANY, BUT THERE WERE A COUPLE THAT HAD LIKE SAY OR THINGS IN CASE SOMETHING WENT DOWN UNTIL THEY COULD GET THEIRS IN.
WELL I GUESS IS THERE A, IS THERE A, UM, IN YOUR DEPARTMENT, I GUESS IS THERE A INVENTORY OF EVERYTHING Y'ALL HAVE OF WHAT WELL, I DON'T KNOW.
I MEAN IF IT'S NOT, IF Y'ALL HAVE THE USER YET, DO YOU HAVE AN INVENTORY OF THINGS THAT ARE NOT YEAH, WHO KEEPS TRACK OF IT? I GUESS THAT WOULD ANSWER IT TO HIS QUESTION.
DO YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? IF TAG IF WE ISSUE A PURCHASE ORDER FOR IT, THEN IT GOES STRAIGHT.
THEN WHENEVER IT'S RECEIVED WE RECEIVE AN INVOICE STATING THAT THE, AND THE END USER SIGNS OFF STATING THAT THEY'VE RECEIVED THE PROPERTY, THEN IT'S ENTERED INTO THEIR INVENTORY.
SO IT PRETTY MUCH GETS PAID ABOUT.
THE ONLY THING THAT'S, THAT'S HELD KIND OF IN LIMBO SO TO SPEAK, IS MAYBE SOME OF THE IT RELATED ITEMS. AND THAT'S JUST BECAUSE THEY TRY TO KEEP A, AN INVENTORY ON HAND IN CASE THE BIG STORM THAT COMES THROUGH AND BLOWS OUT.
YOU NEVER KNOW WHEN A COMPUTER'S GOING.
I MEAN, I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT.
I THINK WE SHOULD KEEP SPARE STUFF ON THERE.
AND LIKE THE, THE 11 THAT YOU, UM, HAD QUESTIONS ON OUT OF THAT, THERE'S ONLY THREE THAT HAVE NOT BEEN ISSUED, IN FACT ONE'S IN YOUR DEPARTMENT AND WE'VE NOT YET RECEIVED THE FA ONE FORM FOR YOUR DEPARTMENT STATING THAT IT'S, IT'S BEEN RECEIVED.
'CAUSE WHENEVER WE, YOU KNOW, OF COURSE, UM, WHEN THIS WAS BROUGHT UP WE WANTED TO CHECK AND SEE IF EVERYTHING, OUR STUFF WAS IN INVENTORY AND THEY WENT OUT AND IT HAD BEEN ISSUED TO I SET ALL THE TWO OF THESE AND WE'VE NOT RECEIVED THE FA ONE FORMS FROM THE END USERS AS OF YET.
WELL YOU YOU ISSUED THE TAG, THE ID TAG, RIGHT? WELL THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO WHENEVER IT, YES, WHENEVER WE ACTUALLY HAVE CONFIRMATION THAT IT'S BEEN RECEIVED BY THE DEPARTMENT AT THAT TIME, WE ISSUE A TAG.
WELL IT'S RECEIVED AFTER IT'S DELIVERED BY IT.
SO IT PUTS THE TAG ON IT, RIGHT? YOUR OFFICE DOES? NO, THE USER PUTS THE TAG ON IT.
WE DON'T HAVE THE TAG PUT A TAG ON IT.
ONE, WE CREATE THE TAG, BUT WE HAVE TO BE NOTIFIED THAT IT'S BEEN ISSUED TO A DEPARTMENT BY THE DEPARTMENT BECAUSE JUST LIKE WHEN YOU GET A TRUCK OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, A PIECE OF EQUIPMENT, HOW YOU NOTIFY OUR DEPARTMENT THAT IT'S BEEN RECEIVED AND YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO NOTIFY LORI.
THAT IS HOW IT'S AN INTERNAL DEPARTMENT ISSUES THE ITEM.
I MEAN WE DON'T RECEIVE A TRUCK FROM IT OR FROM HR OR ANYBODY ELSE WE SEE RECEIVE IT FROM A VENDOR.
IT RECEIVES THE COMPUTER FROM A VENDOR.
BUT YOU RECEIVE, YOU'RE THE END USER.
WELL I UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW THAT WHENEVER YOU GET A UM, CPUA BRAND NEW CPU ON YOUR DESK THAT YOU NEED TO FILL OUT AN FA ONE FORM LETTING US KNOW THAT YOU'VE RECEIVED IT AND WE HAVEN'T DONE THAT.
SO WHO'S GOT THE COMPUTER? I DIDN'T.
UH, IT JUST SAYS, UH, IT SAYS PRECINCT COURT.
YOUR CAMERAS CINDY HADN'T FILLED OUT.
I MEAN WE GENERATED FROMWHERE.
EVERYONE, EVERYONE HAS SHOULD HAVE IT BECAUSE, UH, FA OH ONE FORMS ARE PASSED OUT IN THIS POLICY.
AND I BELIEVE IN THE PERSON POLICY AS WELL.
SO WHEN ANYBODY RECEIVES A COPY OF THE POLICY, THERE SHOULD BE AN FAO ONE FORM.
AND I'M, I'M ALMOST POSITIVE THAT YOU GUYS DO, 'CAUSE THAT'S ALSO THE FORM THAT YOU FILL OUT WHENEVER YOU UH, HAVE SURPLUS, SURPLUS PROPERTY LIKE THAT YOU'RE PUTTING IN FOR AUCTION THAT YOU WANT TAKEN OUT OF YOUR INVENTORY.
I WASN'T AWARE THAT WE WERE SUPPOSED TO FILL ONE OF THOSE OUT WHEN THE ITEM CAME FROM ANOTHER DEPARTMENT.
ANYTIME IT'S TRANSFERRED IN OR OUT, IT GOES TO
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ONE OR THE OTHER, YOU FILL THAT OUT INSTEAD.I MEAN, I MEAN WE, WE FILLED IT OUT, BUT LIKE CAMERA I DO.
BUT ANYTIME IT CHANGE YOU, YOU CAN PUT IT ON ONE CHANGE IT.
CAN I INTERJECT SOMETHING? ALRIGHT.
WHEN HER DEPARTMENT PURCHASING GOES OUT TO DO ACTUAL INVENTORY AND COUNT, THERE'S A LOT OF TIMES THAT THINGS ARE CAUGHT LIKE THAT TOO.
YEAH, WE JUST, THAT'S SAFETY PROCEDURE I THINK.
SOMEBODY JUST CAME OVER NOT LONG AGO.
YOU KNOW, THAT WOULD'VE BEEN A AMANDA AND HER.
YEAH, I MEAN PRETTY MUCH, I STILL HAD SAME STUFF THAT I STARTED WITH, BUT I MEAN THERE WAS A COUPLE THINGS CHANGED BUT WE CHANGED THEM ALL AND WE DID IT.
I MEAN WE FILLED OUT THE FORM FOR, THE MAIN PART IS BUDDY DOES HAVE THE SAME THING.
I MEAN YOU STILL HAVE A MONITOR, YOU STILL HAVE A CPU, YOU STILL HAVE A KEYBOARD.
I MEAN YOU STILL HAVE THE SAME COMPONENTS, IT'S JUST YOU MAY HAVE TRADED OUT BECAUSE THIS ONE BLEW UP.
SO YOU STILL HAVE THE SAME BASIC THINGS BUT ONE THAT ACTUALLY WORKS.
SO WHAT WE'RE DOING IS ACTUALLY WORKING IF WE DO LIKE WE'RE SUPPOSED TO DO AND DO WHAT NOW? EVERYTHING'S WORKING LIKE IT IS AS LONG AS WE DO WHAT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO DO.
AND OTHER COUNTIES PRETTY WELL USE THE SAME PROCESS.
BASICALLY THIS GETS ID TAG ON IT SOMEWHERE.
YEAH, WELL LIKE I SAID, IT MAY NOT BE A CONCERN FOR ANYBODY ELSE, BUT OTHER THAN ME, I, WELL I THOUGHT IT'S ODD THAT WE RECEIVED MERCHANDISE AND THE DEPARTMENT HEAD ELECTED OFFICIAL DID NOT SIGN OFF ON IT AND THEN IT'S, IT'S SOMEWHERE UNTIL IT'S USED, YOU KNOW, BUT IT DOESN'T HAVE A COUNTY TRACKING NUMBER MAY NOT BE AN ISSUE.
WELL, BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE THE TRACKING NUMBER.
I DON'T KNOW WHO HAS IT, WHO HAS THE COUNTY ID.
WELL SEE THEY ALL HAVE, WHENEVER THAT SOMETHING'S ORDERED FROM DELL, IF YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU PAID ATTENTION OR NOT.
AND THEN, SO SOME PEOPLE THEY DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT IT IS, BUT AT THE BOTTOM IT STATES A SERVICE TAG NUMBER.
SO THAT, THAT IS ALREADY, WELL IT ALREADY HAS A, A NUMBER ASSOCIATED WHENEVER IT WAS MADE FROM DELL.
AND THEN WE USE THAT AS A TRACKING NUMBER.
SO I MEAN YOU BASICALLY, WHENEVER WE GET THIS INVOICE IN AND LORI SIGNED OFF OF GEORGE SIGN, WHOEVER RECEIVED THE, THE MERCHANDISE SIGNS OFF ON IT, IT HAS THIS SERVICE TAG NUMBER AT THE BOTTOM AND THAT CAN BE TRACKED TO ANY ONE OF THOSE COMPUTERS THAT HAVE BEEN RECEIVED IT.
AND IT'S ALREADY IN OUR INVENTORY.
IT'S JUST NOT, IT DOESN'T HAVE THAT ACTUAL COUNTY TAG ON IT YET UNTIL IT'S DOES THAT YOU'RE JUST TURNING THEIR TAG INTO THE COUNTY TAG BASICALLY.
WELL I THINK IT'S A GOOD DISCUSSION TO HAVE JUST TO KIND OF MAKE SURE EVERYBODY DON'T
IT IS A NON-ISSUE WITH UH, YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY ELSE'S, I GUESS THEY ALL HAVE A NUMBER OF THEM INVENTORY.
AND I THINK THAT'S THE KEY TO IT.
I THINK BILL 5,000 IS NOT GOING BE A CONCERN.
Y'ALL BOUGHT HUNDREDS OF THOUSAND DOLLARS WORTH OF RADIOS MILLION.
IT TOOK DAYS TO ENTER EACH ONE OF THOSE RADIOS AND SERIAL NUMBERS.
BUT THEY'RE NOT CONSIDERED AN ASSET BECAUSE INDIVIDUALLY THEY DID NOT COST $5,000.
BUT THEY ARE IN INVENTORY, THEY HAVE ASSET ANYTHING UNDER, IF ANYTHING'S UNDER $500, IT'S NOT EVEN CONSIDERED A VOLATILE ASSET.
NO, NO, BUT LIKE RANDY, YOU HAVE ONE ON YOUR OH, THE COUNTY.
ANY OTHER COMMISSIONER THAT WELL, I MEAN IF EVERYBODY THINKS THE POLICY SHOULD STAY THE SAME, THAT'S FINE FOR ME.
I MEAN IT, I DON'T, I DON'T, WE CAN MAKE IT MORE COMPLEX I GUESS, BUT I SURE HAVE A LITTLE GUN.
WE DO HAVE ONE, BUT IT'S, UM, IT IS NOT WORKING.
IT WORKS, BUT IT HASN'T BEEN, I DON'T KNOW IT, IT'S, IT'S OLD.
WE DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT'S WRONG.
THEY'VE LOOKED AT IT, WHO KNOWS.
OPERATOR ERROR, SOFTWARE ERROR.
WE CAN, IT, IT, IT JUST NEVER HAS ACTUALLY THEY GO OUT AND IT WILL, IT MEETS LIKE ONLY LIKE FIVE OF THE TAGS THAT'S BEEN REGISTERED.
SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT NOW MOST OF THE STUFF YOU PUT TAGS ON PRETTY, I'M SORRY.
UH, THAT GETS US DOWN TO ITEM SIX AND WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO, UH, COMMISSIONER ON THAT, I'D LIKE TO GO AHEAD, LET'S TAKE A BREAK AND THEN I'D LIKE, UH, CHRISTIE WILLIAMS HERE WITH COG.
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Y'ALL CAN GET, I THINK YOU HAVE A VIDEO YOU WANT TO SHOW YOU DON'T.ALRIGHT, WELL LET'S TAKE A, JUST A QUICK BREAK AND THEN WE'LL COME BACK AND GO TO ADAM SEVEN, DO WHAT SHE NEEDS TO DO AND THEN HEAD BACK TO BOB.
I GUESS I IMAGINE Y'ALL HAD AN INTERESTING TRIP OVER.
OKAY, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND CALL THE MEETING BACK TO, UH, ORDER AND UH, WE'LL, WE'LL MOVE TO ITEM SEVEN.
UH, CHRISTY WILLIAMS, WHO IS WE? THE, UH, NORTH CENTRAL TEXAS COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENT.
UH, A PRESENTATION OF THE COURT ON SOME LEGISLATION I BELIEVE THAT WAS PASSED DURING THIS LAST SESSION ON THE POTENTIAL CREATION OF A REGIONAL EMERGENCY COMMUNICATIONS DISTRICT.
AND WE SOME, I THINK EVERYBODY IN HERE HAS HAD HEARD THE DISCUSSION AT LEAST ABOUT, UH, THE STATE NOT DISTRIBUTING SOME OF THE MONEY THAT HAS BEEN COLLECTED ON THE 50 CENT FEE THAT IS, UH, ASSESSED BY THE STATE FOR 9 1 1 PURPOSES AND THERE'S BEEN SOME ACTION IN OTHER PARTS OF THE STATE.
AND SO CHRISTIE, I DON'T WANT TO TAKE YOUR THUNDER AWAY, BUT THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.
AND UH, CHRISTIE I SHOULD MENTION BY THE WAY, IS THE PRESIDENT OF THE NATIONAL NINA AND THAT IS THE NATIONAL EMERGENCY NUMBER ASSOCIATION.
YEAH, SHE IS OF THE NATIONAL GROUP IN THE UNITED STATES.
SHE'S THE PRESIDENT OF THAT AND RECEIVED A LOT OF RECOGNITION FOR THAT.
SO WE'RE VERY PROUD OF HER AND WORKS TO GOD.
AND I'M SORRY I DO HAVE THAT BUT OKAY.
SO, SO WHILE THEY'RE SETTING IT UP, I'LL JUST GIVE YOU A BRIEF RUNDOWN.
WHEN THE LEGISLATION WAS SET UP, IT WAS BECAUSE THE STATE AS 9 1 1 PROGRESSES AROUND THE COUNTRY TECHNOLOGY WISE, THE STATE HAS HAD TO IMPLEMENT MORE AND MORE RULES AND POLICIES AND AS ANY LARGE ENTITY WOULD DO, THEY HAVE TO CREATE STANDARDS.
AND UNFORTUNATELY A COOKIE CUTTER APPROACH HASN'T WORKED FOR US BECAUSE WE'RE A LITTLE MORE PROGRESSIVE.
SO THE TWO MAIN OBJECTIVES TO THE NEW LEGISLATION AND THE IDEA OF CREATING A REGIONAL DISTRICT IS TO ALLOW FOR BETTER SERVICE TO ALLOW US CONTINUE TO CONTINUE TO HAVE, UM, HIGH LEVEL OF MINIMUM ROOM SERVICES AS WELL AS, AS THE JUDGE MENTIONED FOR US TO RETAIN ALL THE FUNDING.
SO, UM, SHOULD I GO THERE? THIS IS A REAL TEAM EVENT.
SO, SO ALL OF THE INFORMATION IN THIS SLIDE IS WHAT WAS PRESENTED TO THE NET COG EXECUTIVE BOARD AND THESE ARE THE ITEMS I PULLED OUT OF THE LEGISLATION.
SO THE CREATION OF A DISTRICT WOULD SERVE THE SAME REGION THAT WE SERVE TODAY AND WE WILL ONLY FORM A REGIONAL DISTRICT IF EVERY COUNTY AND EVERY MUNICIPALITY WITHIN OUR JURISDICTION PASSES A RESOLUTION TO APPROVE THIS DISTRICT.
SO WE JUST SENT OUT A LETTER THIS MONTH TO GAUGE THE INTEREST.
WITHIN A COUPLE WEEKS WE HAD EIGHT RESOLUTIONS BACK AND WE HAVE NUMEROUS PEOPLE LIKE YOU THAT HAVE ASKED FOR US TO COME AND GET THE PRESENTATION.
SO WE HAVE NOT HAD ANY OFFICIAL, UM, DISSENT OR ANYBODY THAT WAS NOT IN AGREEMENT.
BUT EVEN IF EVERYBODY'S FOR IT, WE HAVE 149 CITIES AND COUNTIES THAT WILL BE GOING TO.
SO JUST BY THE NATURE OF THE NUMBER, IT WILL TAKE US A WHILE TO GET, GET THROUGH GETTING ALL OF THOSE RESOLUTIONS.
IT WILL NOT AFFECT ANY OF OUR SURROUNDING DISTRICTS OR HOME RURAL CITIES.
SO THIS SHOWS ALL OF THE COUNTIES, THE THREE THAT ARE GRAYED OUT IN THE MIDDLE HAVE A LOCAL 9 1 1 JURISDICTION THAT WAS IN EXISTENCE WHEN WE CAME ABOUT.
SO JACKSON COUNTY HAS DENKO AREA 9 1 1.
TARRANT COUNTY HAS A TARRANT COUNTY 9 1 1 DISTRICT AND THE CITY OF DALLAS HAS THEIR OWN 9 1 1 AND SEVERAL OF THE OTHER CITIES HAVE THEIR OWN 9 1 1.
BUT WE DO SERVE FIVE CITIES IN DALLAS COUNTY.
SO WE SERVE WIL, SEVILLE, BOX SPRINGS, COPPERVILLE AND AX.
IF THE DISTRICT IS CREATED, ALL ASSETS WILL BE TRANSFERRED TO THE DISTRICT.
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JUST LIKE WE HAVE INTERLOCALS WITH EACH OF YOU TODAY, WE WOULD DO THE SAME AND JUST PROVIDE A NEW INTERLOCAL THAT WOULD PROVIDE WHAT THE SURFACES ARE, WHICH AGAIN WOULD REMAIN THE SAME, BUT WE COULD POTENTIALLY OFFER ADDITIONAL SERVICES.WE'RE PRETTY LIMITED WITH OUR EXISTING LEGISLATION AND THAT WE CAN ONLY PAY FOR SOMETHING THAT IS PART OF THE DELIVERY OF THE NUMBER ONE CALL.
I LIKE THE CONSULT, NOT THE RADIO.
SO Y'ALL HAVE BEEN THROUGH THAT WITH US ALL THAT WE CAN ONLY PAY UP TO THIS POINT IF, IF WE WERE A DISTRICT, WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO PAY FOR PAY FOR RADIO MORE OR WHATEVER.
NOW THE REALITY IS WE COULDN'T PAY FOR RADIOS FOR 149 JURISDICTIONS, BUT WE COULD HAVE LIKE A GRANT APPROVAL PROCESS SO THAT WHATEVER FUNDING WE HAVE, COULD YOU, COULD YOU UH, SAY WELL, WELL WHATEVER YOU CONTRIBUTED YOUR SECTION, WOULD WE BE GUARANTEED TO RECEIVE THAT MONEY BACK? SO THAT'S A POSSIBILITY.
UH, AS WE GO THROUGH THESE, YOU'LL SEE THAT A BOARD OF DIRECTORS WOULD BE APPOINTED AND THAT'S WHO WOULD MAKE ALL OF THOSE DECISIONS AND UM, EACH COUNTY WOULD HAVE A VOICE ON THAT.
WOULD IT BE THE SAME? WOULD IT? OKAY.
LIKE WHEN WE'RE SET UP OVER NOW, WE DON'T HAVE MUCH VOICE.
THE WAY THAT OUR COG EXECUTIVE BOARD IS SET UP IT, WE HAVE A LOT OF COLIN DENTON AND DALLAS.
AND SO MR. EASTLAND, THIS WOULD BE A TOTALLY DIFFERENT, THIS WILL BE A NEW BOARD THAT WILL BE CREATED DALLAS AND ALL THAT WOULDN'T EVEN BE IN, THEY WON'T EVEN BE INVITED TO THE MEETING DALLAS, TARN OR DENTON.
AND ALL THE REST OF 'EM WOULD BASICALLY HAVE THE SAME KIND OF NUMBERS.
IN OTHER WORDS, EACH COUNTY WOULD BE REPRESENTED ABOUT EQUAL.
SO WHAT THE LEGISLATION SAYS IS THAT WE'LL HOST A MEETING AND WE WILL INVITE ALL 149 ENTITIES, WHICH ARE THE MUNICIPALITIES AND THE COUNTIES.
WHOEVER SHOWS UP AT THAT MEETING IS WHO APPOINTS THAT FIRST INTERIM BOARD.
AND THE INTERIM BOARD WILL GET THINGS SET UP AND SET UP SOME OF POLICIES.
WELL YOU COME BACK TO ME ONE SIDED AGAIN
WELL NO, 'CAUSE WE WON'T HAVE DALLAS OR ANY OF THOSE PEOPLE IN THE ROOM.
BUT IT DOES MEAN YOU SHOULD ATTEND THE MEETING.
WELL, YEAH, IT WOULDN'T BE IF IT'S THE PEOPLE ON ONE SIDED ARE THE PEOPLE ON THE BOARD NOW THE ONE'S GONNA BE MAKING THE DECISION IS WHAT YOU'RE SAYING OR I'M SAYING WHOEVER SHOWS UP TO THAT MEETING WILL HAVE THE VOICE TO MAKE THE DECISION.
SO WHO CAN SHOW UP TO THE BOARD MEETING EACH OF THE 149 ENTITIES, THE MUNICIPALITIES AND THE CAMPUS UNDERSTAND CITY COUNCIL OUTTA THEM.
DOES IT MAKE CITY COUNCILS? ALL THE COMMISSIONERS, ALL THE WHAT AND WHAT I'M ASKING? YEAH, WE SENT FOR THIS OUR, THE WHOLE ALL THE RESIDENTS OF COURSE WILL THE COUNTY HAVE ONE REPRESENTATIVE THAT IS NOT CLEAR IN THE LEGISLATION.
SO WE WILL LOOK TO OUR REGIONAL ADVISORY COMMITTEE THAT CURRENTLY SITS AND WE WILL ALSO BEFORE WE HAVE THAT MEETING, THE REGIONAL ADVISORY COMMITTEE AND, AND HE'S ON IT.
I MEAN THAT I'M NOT ARGUING ON THIS.
WELL, I'M JUST SAYING THAT YOU WILL HAVE ALWAYS WELL I TO HAVE GOOD RECOMMENDATIONS.
AND AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HEARING FROM EVERYONE.
AND SO OUR REGIONAL ADVISORY COMMITTEE WILL HAVE SOME RECOMMENDATIONS THAT THEY TAKE TO THAT FIRST MEETING.
SO IT'S NOT JUST A BRIEF FOR ALL.
AND THEY'VE DONE THIS IN CENTRAL TEXAS, THEY'VE DONE THIS IN, THAT'S THE ONLY ONE THAT'S UP IN AUSTIN CAPITAL AREA.
AND THEY'VE DONE THIS IN HG UH, HOUSTON GALVESTON AREA AND CENTRAL TEXAS IS WORKING ON IT, BUT THEY HAVEN'T.
SO THE ONE IN THE GUY I KNOW THE FIRST ONE WAS IN, UH, THE AUSTIN AREA.
IS IT UP AND OPERATIONAL NOW? YES.
AND THEY'RE GETTING THEIR FUNDING COMING THROUGH THEIR DIVISION.
SO THEY HAVE HAD NOTHING BUT POSITIVE THINGS TO SAY.
SO THE FUNDING WOULD COME DIRECTLY TO THE DISTRICT INSTEAD OF GOING TO THE STATE STATE.
AND THEN IT'D BE UP TO THE BOARD TO DISPERSE THAT MONEY NOW INSTEAD OF THE STATE.
SO THAT'S WHY YOU WANT TO BE SURE AND HAVE EQUAL, DOES THIS LEGISLATION ALLOW EACH COUNTY TO BECOME THEIR OWN DISTRICT ALSO? YES SIR.
AND SO RIGHT NOW OUR MAKE OF THE REGIONAL ADVISORY COMMITTEE IS THAT EVERY COUNTY HAS REPRESENTATION.
AND SO RIGHT NOW OUR COUNTIES HAVE MORE WEIGHT THAN THE MUNICIPALITIES.
SO THE COUNTIES WOULD COME TO THIS MEETING AND THEN ANY CITIES COULD COME AND HAVE A VOICE.
BUT WE WOULD MAKE SURE THAT IT DOESN'T GET OUT OF WHACK.
IT'S GONNA BE A REASONABLE, UH, TWO THIRDS OF THE MEMBERS HAVE TO BE ELECTED OFFICIALS.
BUT THAT'S ALL THAT THE LEGISLATION SPEAKS.
THIS WHOLE DISTRICT IS INTENDED TO GIVE MORE LOCAL CONTROL.
SO THE, THE LEGISLATION DOES NOT TELL US TOO MUCH.
IT JUST SAYS HAVE THAT MEETING
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APPOINT A BOARD.WHAT IS THE ADVANTAGE FOR US TO BE A MEMBER OF THIS RATHER THAN GOING DOWN TO AUSTIN AND FARMING OUR OWN ECV AND GETTING OUR 750,000 COMING TO OUR COUNTY EACH YEAR THAT WE PUT IN? BECAUSE WE CRAWLING BID WITH ALL THESE OTHER COUNTIES.
THEY DON'T WANT SOME OUR 750,000 IF THEY'RE NOT PUTTING 750,000.
SO, SO TWO THINGS NUMBER IS NOW WHY WE WANT PARTY WITH THEM.
SO SO WHAT, WHAT ARE YOU GONNA DO FOR US THAT THAT IS GONNA LOOK BETTER THAN WHAT WE HAVE NOW? WE RAN A FINANCIAL ANALYSIS ON YOUR COUNTY AND WE HAVE PAID OUT MORE THAN YOU HAVE PAID IN.
SO YOU'RE ACTUALLY BENEFITING FROM THE OTHER WE HAVE PAID FOR SERVICES.
I'D BE HAPPY TO GET THAT TO YOU, JUDGE.
WELL I'D LIKE TO SEE THAT BECAUSE LAST TIME THIS WAS DISCUSSED IT LOOKED LIKE KAMAN COUNTY WAS RECEIVING TWO TO $300,000 A YEAR.
NOW PER Y'ALL'S FIGURE, NO YOU NEED TO UNDERSTAND THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN RECEIVING A CHECK, WHICH IS A RARE THING, BUT IT'S SOMETHING WE'VE DONE LATELY FOR YOU AND THE AMOUNT OF MONEY WE PUT INTO YOUR SYSTEM.
SO ANYTHING THAT WE PAY FOR YOUR NETWORK, YOUR EQUIPMENT, YOUR DATABASE, WE HAVE ALL OF THAT ON A SPREADSHEET AND WE'RE PAYING MORE FOR YOUR SYSTEM IN COLLIN COUNTY THAN THEY CAN THAN THE CITIZENS HAVE COLLECTED.
IT DOESN'T MEAN YOU'VE GOTTEN A CHECK FOR 700.
YEAH, I DON'T KNOW THAT WE'VE EVER, THAT'S HAVE WE EVER RECEIVED A CHECK? YES WE HAVE.
WHAT DID THAT DO? THAT WENT FOR THE BACK OF THE 9 1 1 CENTER ON, I BELIEVE YOU REIMBURSED THIS FOR THE FURNITURE AND A ANY OF THOSE ALLOWABLE EXPENSES AGAIN WITH THE DISTRICT, WE'D HAVE MORE ALLOWABLE EXPENSES.
THEY REIMBURSES FOR THE FURNITURE.
BE THE RECORDER WHERE YOU PURCHASED THE RECORDER.
AND WE PURCHASED THE RECORDER AND IT WENT BACK INTO THE FUND THAT 9 1 1.
THE OTHER THING COMMISSIONER IS IT IS VERY DIFFICULT TO PULL OUT OF THE STATE SYSTEM.
WE HAD A CITY THAT WANTED TO DO THAT.
I, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS ARE VERY FAMILIAR WITH BRISCOE AND HOW SMALL IT USED TO BE AND THEN IT EXPLODED.
WELL NOT WHEN IT WAS SMALL 'CAUSE THEY WERE GETTING THE BENEFITS, BUT WHEN THEY EXPLODED THEY SAID THE SAME THING.
OH WAIT A MINUTE NOW WE'RE WE WANNA BUILD THIS NEW BUILDING AND THIS WOULD BE A GREAT WAY TO DO IT.
AND SO THEY SPENT OVER TWO YEARS IN A COURT BATTLE AND THE COURT OUTCOME WAS THAT THEY COULD PULL OUT BUT THEIR MONEY WOULD CONTINUE TO GO TO THE REGIONAL SYSTEM.
SO OF COURSE THAT WOULD
SO THEY DIDN'T, SO IT IS A STRUGGLE TO GET OUT.
YOU WOULD MOST LIKELY HAVE TO GET NEW LEGISLATION.
THE OTHER THING I WOULD SAY IS WITH THE, THE MUNICIPAL DISTRICTS THAT EXIST TODAY AND EVEN THE COUNTY DISTRICTS, THE LARGE ONES DO VERY WELL AND WE WOULD BE CONSIDERED LARGE.
THE ONES THAT ARE A COUNTY AT A TIME, THEY DO THE BEST THEY CAN WITH WHAT THEY HAVE.
BUT WHILE $750,000 SOUNDS LIKE A LOT OF MONEY, THAT IS NOT A LOT OF MONEY TO RUN THE KIND OF TECHNOLOGY RERUN.
SO LIKE YOUR NEIGHBOR HENDERSON COUNTY, THE FIR, WHEN THEY WERE ESTABLISHED IN THE LATE EIGHTIES, THE FIRST TIME THEY REPLACED THEIR EQUIPMENT WAS 20 YEARS.
THEY LIVED WITH THAT SAME EQUIPMENT FOR 20 YEARS.
WHEREAS IN A LARGER SYSTEM WE WERE ABLE TO REPLACE EQUIPMENT TYPICALLY EVERY FIVE YEARS.
WHAT EQUIPMENT ARE YOU REFERRING TO? THE 9 1 1 EQUIPMENT IN THE CONSOLE.
THE OTHER THING IS IN A SMALL DISTRICT OR SMALL MUNICIPALITY, YOU KNOW, YOU TYPICALLY HAVE ONE TO FOUR PEOPLE ON THE STAFF.
AND WE HAVE A LARGER STAFF THAT INCLUDES A TECHNOLOGY TEAM.
I'VE GOT SOME OF OUR PAST AND PRESENT TECHNOLOGISTS WITH US.
WE HAVE OPERATIONS, I HAVE THE SUPERVISOR THERE SHARING WITH US AS WELL.
WE HAVE DATA TEAM, WE HAVE A GIS TEAM AND THEY'RE ALL SPECIALISTS IN THAT THEY BECOME SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS.
SO WE HAVE A LOT OF EXPERTISE IN THAT ENABLES US TO BE, I'VE BEEN SOME OF THEM IN THE LAST COUPLE OF WEEKS.
SOME OF THE GUYS PUTTING THE TECHNOLOGY IN PRETTY SHARP.
SO IF THEY WERE GIVING YOU A HARD TIME YOU CAN BACK TO THE NO, THEY WERE LEGISLATION THOUGH THAT ALLOWS THE CREATION OF THE 9 1 1 DISTRICT, LIKE SHOW THE MAP OVER THERE, WHICH WILL DO, DOES NOT ALLOW FOR A SINGLE COUNTY TO, IT DOESN'T PULL OUT AND DO THAT.
AND UM, WE'LL TALK ABOUT, AND THAT WAS JUST PASSED THIS LAST SESSION? YES, IT WAS PASSED IN THIS LAST SESSION.
SO IT'S KIND AS YOU COULD TELL FROM THE A HUNDRED PERCENT CONSENSUS THAT IS REQUIRED.
SO OUR CHOICES ARE EVERYBODY SAYS YES AND WE BECOME A DISTRICT OR IF ONE PERSON SAYS NO, WE ALL
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STAY IN THE STATE SYSTEM.SO THE 149 ENTITIES, UH, JUST TAKES ONE OF THEM NOT TO APPROVE AND THEN CORRECT THE DEAL IS OFF AND THAT MEANS ONE LITTLE CITY SOMEWHERE.
WHAT, WHICH IS INTERESTING BECAUSE WE HAVE WHAT WE CALL PSAP CITIES, THE CITIES WHERE WE HAVE AN ON ONE CENTER AND WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, SEVERAL OF THEM THAT WE'VE BEEN DEALING ABOUT WITH FOR YEARS.
BUT THEN THERE'S ALL THESE OTHER LITTLE CITIES THAT THEY DON'T EVEN HAVE THEIR 9 1 1 THEIR ANSWER THROUGH THE COUNTY.
THEY DON'T KNOW WHO THE COG IS.
AND SO THEY'RE GETTING LETTERS FROM US AND THEY'RE LIKE, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THIS IS.
SO IF THEY DON'T ASK YOU, YOU ASSUME THAT THEY'RE OKAY, WELL THAT'S A NICE THOUGHT THEY SIGN ON THAT DOG.
AND HOW MUCH AT ONE TIME THIS FUND THE STATE WAS USING.
AND I THINK EVERYBODY KNOWS BALANCE THEIR BUDGET AND UH, SO HOW MUCH WITHIN THE HUNDRED RIGHT NOW IT'S ABOUT, WELL BY THE END OF THE BIENNIUM IT'LL BE BACK TO 150.
BUT THIS BIENNIUM, THEY DID APPROPRIATE SOME OF THOSE FUNDS TO CSEC TO BUILD THEIR NEXT GEN SYSTEM.
SO OKAY, SO THE UH, THE AMOUNT OF THAT MONEY THAT COMES IN, ABOUT 15% OF IT WOULD BE DEDICATED TO, UH, THIS REGIONAL CENTER.
SHOULD WE, SHOULD IT ACTUALLY OCCUR? SHOULD THEY GIVE US THE MONEY? I MEAN HOW MUCH OF THE MONEY WOULD WE ACTUALLY RECEIVE? SO THAT'S AN INTERESTING QUESTION BECAUSE PEOPLE HAVE STARTED PULLING OUT, SO FOR MANY YEARS OUR ALLOCATION OR OUR PERCENTAGE OF THE STATE BASED ON POPULATION WAS RIGHT ABOUT 15.
BUT TWO AND A HALF YEARS AGO WHEN CAP COG PULLED OUT, THEN THEY REALLOCATE THE POPULATION SUBTRACTING CAPCO.
AND SO RIGHT NOW, OR THEN WE WERE, WE WERE ABOUT 20% OF THE SHARE.
AND THEN JUST FEBRUARY, THE HOUSTON GALVESTON AREA HAS PULLED OUT AND THEY HAVEN'T RECALCULATED OUR PERCENTAGE OF THAT.
SO THE STATE, THE STATE ALLOCATE YOURSELF A GOOD PORTION AND THEN GIVE YOU 15% OF THAT.
OR IT OR THEY TAKE A HUNDRED PERCENT AND SAY YOU'RE GETTING 15%.
THEY JUST SAY IT DEPENDS ON IF IT'S A GOOD BIENNIUM OR A BAD BIENNIUM.
THEY CAN'T USE IT FOR ANYTHING ELSE.
THEY HAVE TO HOLD IT THERE TO BALANCE THE BUDGET ON PAPER.
SO WHAT WE'VE SEEN IS IN THE GOOD YEARS, THEY'LL GIVE US CLOSE TO WHAT WE COLLECT.
LIKE THIS YEAR WE'RE GETTING EVERYTHING THAT WE, OUR CITIZENS COLLECT.
BUT IN FOUR YEARS AGO THINGS WERE GETTING BAD AND THEN WE TOOK A 30% CUT BECAUSE IT WAS, IT WAS BAD IN THE LEGISLATURE.
BUT BASICALLY WHEN THEY GIVE YOU 15%, THAT REALLY IS PROBABLY JUST ABOUT WHAT WE PAID IN AS OF THE WHOLE GROUP.
I MEAN BECAUSE THEY KNOW TO THE NICKEL WHAT WE ACTUALLY PAID CONTROLLER.
I MEAN IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT EVEN A GUESS FORM.
I MEAN WE, THEY KNOW WHERE THE NINE ONE MONEY, THEY JUST HAVEN'T BEEN CONCERNED WITH GIVING IT BACK.
WHICH IS WHY THAT BALANCE IS 150 ON ANOTHER SUBJECT TOGETHER.
WELL RELATED, UH, WHAT LIABILITY DOES THE, UH, THIS DISTRICT HAVE IF FOR SOME REASON, YOU KNOW, YOU, YOU UH, AND THIS GETS I GUESS INTO THE INTERNAL OPERATION OF THE, OF THE 9 1 1 CENTER.
BUT WHAT HAPPENS IF THE 9 1 1 CALLS ARE NOT DISTRIBUTED OR SENT TO THE AREA? THEY NEED TO BE WHO, WHO IS, WHO ASSUMES THAT RESPONSIBILITY? SO THAT'S A COMBINATION OF THE DISTRICT LIKE IT IS WITH THE COG TODAY AS WELL AS THE EQUIPMENT PROVIDERS.
ALTHOUGH ALL OF US, BOTH THE DISTRICT AND THE COG AS WELL AS THE PROVIDERS HAVE LEGISLATIVE GRANTED IMMUNITY UNLESS THERE'S NEGLIGENCE.
IT HAS TO BE A HUNDRED PERCENT NEGLIGENCE.
ANY FORMS THEY CAN GET TO, THAT'S NOT REAL ISSUE I DON'T THINK.
ANOTHER QUESTION I WOULD'VE IS HOW MUCH, UH, EQUIPMENT COURSE YOU'VE BEEN VERY AWARE OF WHAT WE'RE DOING WITH THE CREATION OF THIS CENTER.
WHAT IS THE DOLLAR VALUE OF THE EQUIPMENT THAT YOU USE TO SEND THE CALLS TO OUR 9 1 1 CENTER? OKAY.
OFFER EACH POSITION ALONE COST IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF $22,000.
AND THAT DOESN'T INCLUDE THE, THE TWO DATA CENTERS THAT ARE THE BIG BRAINS THAT WE HAVE THAT ARE IN OUR, IN DALLAS AND RICHARDSON.
THE BACK ROOM OF WHAT WE CALL A HOST EQUIPMENT THAT'S NOT INCLUDED.
WE CAN COME UP WITH THAT AS WELL AS THE NETWORK THAT, AND THEN WE HAVE THE NETWORK
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CHARGES AND THOSE ARE PRETTY HIGH.AND ESPECIALLY RIGHT NOW WE'RE PUTTING IN A MICROWAVE NETWORK THAT WILL INCREASE OUR ABILITY FOR BANDWIDTH AND IMPROVE OUR RELIABILITY AND THAT THE MONTHLY COST FOR THAT IS PRETTY HIGH AS WELL.
WHAT DO YOU, WHAT DO YOU MEAN AS A PHYSICIAN THAT COSTS 22? WELL THE, THE PHYSICIAN THAT THE EACH COST.
EACH MONITOR WE GOT WHAT, SIX POSITION? 6 28 PER GRAND OR WHATEVER GRAND THEY UM, BUT THAT'S NOT AN ISSUE BECAUSE YOU KNOW, ONE WE, WE CAN'T PULL OUT, THAT'S NOT EVEN A, WE CAN'T MAKE ALL DISTRICT, OUR DISTRICT IS WITH THEM.
UH, IT DOESN'T MAKE ANY DIFFERENCE.
ANYWAY, THE BOTTOM LINE IS, IS THE, MY CONCERN IS, IS RIGHT BACK TO SQUARE ONE, WE HAVE TO HAVE SOMEBODY AT THIS MEETING OR AS MANY REPRESENTATIVES AT THAT MEETING WHEN IT HAPPENS THAT POSSIBLE JUST BECAUSE WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE T SITTING ON THE TABLE WHEN WE'RE MAKING DECISIONS AND NOT AND, BUT IN THE AUDIENCE, THIS ISSUE CAME UP IN HOUSTON, GALVESTON WHEN THEY WERE PULLING OUT THIS YEAR, BUT IT'S NOT THE COUNTY BUT THE COUNTY, YOU GUYS BY NATURE JUST HAVE A LEG UP 'CAUSE YOU'RE THE COUNTIES AND YOU SERVE MULTIPLE CITIES.
THE ONES THAT WERE WORRIED ABOUT REPRESENTATION WERE THOSE LITTLE MUNICIPALITIES.
AND IT WOULD BE HARDER FOR US TO HAVE A BOARD THAT GAVE EACH ONE OF THOSE 149 LITTLE GUYS A SEAT OF A DECISION.
BUT, BUT THE COUNTIES ARE GONNA BE REPRESENTED.
WELL IN OUR CASE WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE ONE FOR THE COUNTY.
WHEN, WHEN YOU REFER TO THE CITIES, ARE YOU REFERRING TO EACH CITY THAT HAS A POLICE DEPARTMENT? NO, JUST AN INCORPORATE THE CITY WE INCORPORATED.
SO IF WE DISPATCH FORM NOW, THEY SHOULD HAVE NO PROBLEM SIGNING OFF.
AND THEN THAT'S TYPICALLY, I THINK IT'S TYPICALLY GONNA BE POUNDING A PAVEMENT AND FINDING THEM AND GETTING TO A SHERIFF'S OFFICE OR A COMMISSIONER'S COURT TO SAY, CAN YOU HELP US WITH THIS LITTLE CITY THAT DOESN'T HAVE REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS BECAUSE WELL, I'M SURE THERE'S A LOT OF, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF CHALLENGES JUST FINDING THE CITY COUNCIL IS GOING BE TOUGH ENOUGH.
WE HAVE SOME RETURNED LETTERS.
SO THAT, THAT'S SOMETHING AT OUR NEXT REGIONAL ADVISORY COMMITTEE MEETING THIS MONTH WE'RE BRINGING THE SPREADSHEET OF EVERYTHING WE SENT OUT AND WHO WE'VE HEARD BACK TO AND THEN WE'LL ASK EACH OF OUR COUNTY REPRESENTATIVES, HOW WOULD IT BE BEST TO HANDLE THIS IN YOUR COUNTY.
YOU KNOW, SOME PEOPLE HAVE SAID THE SHERIFF WILL GO DOOR TO DOOR AND SOME PEOPLE HAVE SAID WE'LL GO TO THE CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS, WHATEVER THE METHODOLOGY IS, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO HIT ALL THOSE LITTLE CITIES.
BUT IT DOES TAKE A FORMAL RESOLUTION.
IT DOES REQUIRE A FORMAL SOLUTION.
NO, IT'LL BE A, WE DON'T WANT IT TO BE QUICK BECAUSE THIS MICROWAVE PROJECT THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON IS, YOU KNOW, MULTIMILLION DOLLARS THAT WE'VE WORKED ON PLANNING FOR ABOUT FOUR YEARS AND ONCE THE LAST RESOLUTION, AND WE MAY THINK OF THIS, ONCE THE LAST RESOLUTION IS SIGNED, THAT'S THE DAY THAT THE COMPTROLLER DECLARES, OKAY, YOU'RE A DISTRICT AND AT THAT MOMENT ANY MONEY THAT'S LEFT ON THE TABLE STAYS WITH THE STATE.
AND SO WE WANNA FINISH THAT MICROWAVE PROJECT.
WE WANNA SPEND THAT MULTIMILLION BONDS BEFORE YOU BEFORE WE SIGN THAT LAST, NOT YOUR FAULT, WE THAT'S YOUR FAULT.
IT DIDN'T HAVE TO WRITE THAT IS THE LEGISLATION AS WELL.
THEY DID, BUT THEY GAVE US WARNINGS.
SO WHAT THEY'RE SAYING IS, IF YOU'RE A GOOD PLANNER, YOU CAN MAKE THIS HAPPEN, BUT YOU DON'T WANT RUSH IN AND GET EVERYONE AND GO, ALRIGHT, WHAT IS THIS MICROWAVE SYSTEM GONNA, THIS THIS IS GOING TO GIVE US MORE BANDWIDTH FOR DATA SO THAT WE CAN TRANSFER MORE DATA BACK AND FORTH.
WILL ALSO IMPROVE OUR RELIABILITY BECAUSE WE WILL ALSO HAVE THE CURRENT NPLS SYSTEM, WE'LL HAVE THIS MICROWAVE NETWORK, WE HAVE A WIRELESS BACKUP NETWORK AND WE'RE WORKING ON AND PLANNING AN INTERNET NETWORK.
SO WE'LL HAVE FOUR DIFFERENT MEETINGS THAT LIKE THE ONE THAT THEY'RE DOING IN BRANDS, IN BRANDS WHERE IT'LL BE LAB BRA IS DOING SOMETHING A LITTLE DIFFERENT IN THAT THEY'RE, THEY'RE PUTTING IN AND OWNING ALL THE FIBER.
OUR FIBER RIGHT NOW OUR NPLS SYSTEM IS A LEASE SYSTEM, BUT WITH THE TOWERS WE'RE USING EITHER TOWERS THAT YOU GUYS OWN OR TOWERS THAT WE'RE BUILDING.
SO THAT SHOULD HELP US WITH COST DOWN THERE AND THEN IF SOMETHING HAPPENS, IT WON'T BE TIED UP, RIGHT? YEAH.
'CAUSE THAT'S, THAT'S THE BIG THING, YOU KNOW, LIKE THE MOM IN, IN BOSTON, YOU KNOW, THEY ALL OF A SUDDEN ALL THE CIRCUITS ARE BUSY AND NOBODY CAN DO ANYTHING.
THIS WILL BE YOUR OWN PRIVATE CIRCUIT.
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IT WON'T BE OCCUPIED EXCEPT BY EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT MULTIPLE WAYS.SO WE'LL BE ABLE TO CONTACT, RIGHT? YEAH, WE'LL BE ABLE TO MOBILIZE WHAT'S GOING ON.
SOME OF OUR EQUIPMENT OUT HERE WILL HANDLE THE NEW STUFF.
IT WILL, IT WILL HANDLE THAT STUFF.
ALL, ALL WHAT WE'RE DOING RIGHT NOW WILL HANDLE ALL THAT.
I DIDN'T MEAN NO, THAT'S OKAY.
YOU WANNA, THIS IS WHAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT WITH THE BOARD OF MANAGERS WHERE EVERYBODY COMES TO THAT MEETING AND THEY'LL DETERMINE THE SIZE AND THE QUALIFICATIONS OF A BOARD.
AND IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THERE WILL BE AN INTERIM BOARD APPOINTED THERE THAT WILL WORK ON THE POLICIES OF MEMBERSHIP AND THEN THE BOARD WILL BE CREATED FROM THAT.
BUT AGAIN, WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT TWO THIRDS OF THEM ARE ELECTED OFFICIALS.
SO SOME OF THE PEOPLE COME TO THE MEETING NEEDS TO BE REPRESENTED.
WE NEED TO BRING, YOU KNOW, SOMEBODY.
NOT ONLY DO YOU NEED, MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE DON'T JUST BRING YOU GUYS AS A, A REPRESENTATION OF THE COUNTY.
BUT EVERY CITY IN THE COUNTY, ESPECIALLY THOSE THAT YOU DISTRICT THAT FOR, I WOULD THINK YOU WOULD ALL THEM REPRESENTED AS WELL.
WE NEED TO BE THERE IN 40 TIRES AND BUSES.
WE CAN GET A MAR LOT EITHER WE WE'LL WORK TO FEED 'EM.
UM, THESE ARE SOME OF THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE BOARD.
THEY'LL BE WORKING WITH A BUDGET.
THEY WILL BUILD ALL, LIKE TODAY WE HAVE ALL THESE CSEC RULES THAT LIMIT US.
THEY'LL BE ABLE TO BUILD OUR OWN RULES, POLICIES, BYLAWS, POLICIES THAT WILL HELP OUR REGION AND NOT BE COOKING.
THAT'S WHERE YOU PUT IN THERE.
PAY WHAT ALL YOU WANT TO SPEND ON.
AND YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO BE CAREFUL BECAUSE LIKE YOU SAID, RADIOS WHAT YOUR BUDGET, JUST TAKING CARE OF ONE COUNTY.
THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED WITH CAPCO WHEN AUSTIN PULLED OUT.
EVERYBODY CAME TO THEM AND EVERYBODY WANTED A COMPLETE RADIO AND SYSTEM AND THEY COULDN'T AFFORD IT.
SO THEY HAVE SOME POLICIES THAT WE CAN LOOK AT AS A DRAFT AND WE ALSO HAVE TWO DISTRICTS, DENKO AND TART THAT HAVE BEEN IN EXISTENT.
IT'S KIND OF NICE HAVING PEOPLE DO IT FIRST.
UM, THAT THE FEES ARE CAPPED AT THE 50 CENTS THAT WE HAVE TODAY.
BUT EACH YEAR THE BOARD WILL MAKE SURE TO RESET THE SERVICE FEE.
THEY'LL SELECT THE BANK AND THE DEPOSITORY AND EVERY THREE YEARS THEY'LL HAVE TO HOLD A PUBLIC MEETING TO MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE WANNA CONTINUE WITH THE DISTRICT AND THE FEE.
SO EVERY THREE YEARS, EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THOSE TEAMS GONNA HAVE TO SIGN OFF AGAIN? NO, AT THAT POINT THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS WILL JUST HOLD THE PUBLIC MEETING AND IT'S WHOEVER COMES IF THEY DON'T SHOW UP, IF NOBODY SHOWS UP.
AND I THINK THAT'S HOW IT NORMALLY GOES.
NOT MANY PEOPLE SHOW UP TO THOSE THINGS.
UM, WE'LL CON THE COG WILL CONTINUE TO SERVE JUST LIKE WE DO TODAY AS THE ADMINISTRATIVE AND FISCAL AGENT.
AND WE'LL HIRE THE EMPLOYEES EASE.
AND UM, IF WE ARE TO DISSOLVE UNDER THIS LEGISLATION, THEN THE COG, LIKE THE COG ITSELF ASSUMES THE ASSETS ONLY TO PAY OFF THE DEBTS.
UM, NOW IF THERE WOULD BE A DISSOLUTION OF THE DISTRICT AT THIS POINT, YOU WOULD JUST BE PART OF THE STATE SYSTEM.
SO AGAIN, IT'S NOT TO DOLE THINGS OUT.
UM, FINANCIAL AND AGAIN WHAT YOU SAID, COMMISSIONER CONTROL BATTLE OF LOCAL ELECTED OFFICIALS FOR ALL THE FINANCIAL, MAKING SURE THE FEES WORK OUT.
ONE OF THE BIG ADVANTAGES THAT WE DON'T HAVE TODAY IS THE ABILITY FOR LONG TERM PLANNING AND CAPITAL PLANNING WITH THE STATE SYSTEM.
WE HAVE TWO YEARS, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT WE'RE GONNA GET IN THE NEXT TWO YEARS.
SO IT'S HARD TO PLAN LONG TERM.
AND ONCE WE GET OUR MONEY, WE HAVE TO SPEND EVERY PENNY OR IT GOES BACK AT THE END OF THE TWO YEARS.
SO EVERY TWO YEARS WE START AGAIN.
YOU HAVE TO SPEND THAT TWO YEARS WORTH OF MONEY.
SO WHAT THAT MEANS IS, YOU KNOW, IS THAT IN A THIRD YEAR? YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? LIKE CAN WE ENCUMBER THAT TO THE THIRD YEAR? NO.
I MEAN IS IT, OR IS IT THROUGH THAT DATE THAT, THAT TWO YEARS? IT'S KIND OF HARD TO DO BECAUSE YOU WOULDN'T KNOW WHAT IT'S THE BIENNIUM.
SO IT'S AUGUST IT SEPTEMBER 1ST TO AUGUST 31ST OF LIKE, THIS IS 1617 BIENNIUM.
SO WE ALWAYS KNOW THE DATE RANGE.
SO IF YOU DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH MONEY, SO RIGHT NOW WE'RE IN THE MIDDLE OF A BIENNIUM.
I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH MONEY, MONEY APPROPRIATED FOR 18, 19.
SO I CAN'T WORK WITH TARRANT COUNTY ON A PROJECT WHERE WE MIGHT COULD SHARE ASSETS AND COST AND SAVE MONEY AND BE MORE EFFICIENT.
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'CAUSE I CAN'T GUARANTEE I'LL HAVE THAT MONEY TO PAY INTO IT.THE OTHER THING IS EQUIPMENT ITSELF, WE HAVE TO ASK THE LEGISLATURE FOR THIS SPIKE EVERY YEAR THAT WE NEED EQUIPMENT.
SO EVERY FIVE YEARS WE'RE SAYING WE NEED THIS MUCH MORE THAN WE NORMALLY GET.
INSTEAD OF SAYING THIS IS HOW MUCH WE NEED IN FIVE YEARS, SO WE'RE GONNA SAVE THIS MUCH THIS YEAR AND THIS MUCH THIS YEAR AND HAVING A CAPITAL RECOVERY FUND.
SO IT WOULD BE GREAT THEY COULD PUT A CAP ON THE RECOVERY FUND.
WELL, WE DON'T HAVE ONE AT ALL, SO IT JUST GOES AWAY AFTER TWO YEARS.
IT'S NOT, IT IT, WE'VE BEEN LUCKY IN SOME YEARS WHEN WE ASKED FOR THE SPIKE AND THEY HAD THE MONEY AND THEY APPROPRIATED IT, BUT THERE HAVE ALSO BEEN YEARS WHEN THEY HAVEN'T, AND THAT'S WHY YOU MENTIONED VOICE RECORDERS.
WE USED TO ALWAYS REPLACE VOICE RECORDERS EVERY FIVE YEARS AS WELL.
BUT WE STARTED GETTING CUTS AND THAT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS THE STATE SAID, NO EQUIPMENT, YOU CAN'T FUND ANY EQUIPMENT.
SO, UM, THE, THESE ARE SOME OF THE THINGS WE'VE DONE IN OUR REGION.
WE ARE ABOUT TO CELEBRATE OUR 25TH ANNIVERSARY, UM, IN JUNE AND AUGUST FOR YOU GUYS SPECIFICALLY, WHERE, UM, WE GOT THE SERVICE TO BEGIN WITH.
WE STARTED WITH JUST LANDLINE, BUT WE DID HAVE THE CALLER'S PHONE NUMBER AND LOCATION BACK WHEN EVERYBODY HAD HARDWIRED PHONES AND WE KNEW WHERE THEY WERE.
AND THEN WE, AND WIRELESS CAME ABOUT.
WE GOT WIRELESS PHASE ONE AND TWO SO THAT WE COULD GET KIND OF ACCURATE LOCATION ON WHERE WIRELESS CALLERS ARE COMING FROM.
AND THEN INTO, WE ALSO BEGAN TO RECEIVE VOICEOVER INTERNET CALLS.
WE STARTED OUR TRANSITION TO NEXT GENERATION 9 1 1 IN 2007, WHERE WE UPGRADED OUR EQUIPMENT AND OUR NETWORK TO THAT MPLS NETWORK WITH IT BASED EQUIPMENT SO THAT WE COULD HAVE SOME DATA ALONG WITH THE TELEPHONE LINES AND THE VOICE.
IN 2010 AND 11, WE REALLY WORKED ON IMPROVING AND STABILIZING THE SYSTEM.
AND THEN WE STARTED WORKING ON THE CORE SERVICES OF WHAT THEY CALL AN EMERGENCY SERVICES, UM, IP NETWORK.
AND SO WE HAVE THAT NETWORK AND THE CORE SERVICES WHICH ALLOW US TO REROUTE CALLS BASED ON GIS INFORMATION.
SO WE HAVE THE MOST, WE HAVE A HYBRID SYSTEM, UM, THE MOST UPTODATE SYSTEM IN THE COUNTRY.
SO WE'RE DOING PRETTY WELL WITH OUR CITIZENS RIGHT NOW AND KEEPING UP WITH THEIR EXPECTATIONS.
WE ALSO WERE AMONG THE EARLY ADOPTERS TO, FOR TEXT AND 9 1 1, I'M SURE Y'ALL REMEMBER WHEN WE CAME AND TALKED ABOUT THAT.
SO WE'VE HAD TEXT HERE SINCE 2013, AND STILL THAT PERCENTAGE AROUND THE STATE IS UNDER 20%.
I MEAN, AROUND THE COUNTRY IS UNDER 20% HAVE TEXT TODAY, AND WE'VE HAD IT SINCE 13.
THE THINGS THAT WE'RE WORKING ON RIGHT NOW IS THAT MICROWAVE, UM, NETWORK THAT'S GONNA TIE IN WITH EVERYTHING ELSE AND WITH THOSE FOUR DIFFERENT TYPES OF NETWORKS THAT I TALKED TO YOU ABOUT, WE HAVE A TECHNOLOGY THAT WILL ALLOW US TO ROUTE CALLS BASED ON WHICHEVER ONE HAS THE BEST AVAILABILITY AT THE TIME THAT THAT MICROWAVE DID.
YOU KNOW, I KNOW THE FED PUT UP A, LIKE $2 BILLION OR SOMETHING, SOMETHING RIDICULOUS AMOUNT.
Y'ALL BEEN TO TAKE ANY OF THAT OUT MICROWAVE OR I KNOW BRAD COUNTY, SOME THOSE THERE.
YEAH, THEY DID A GRANT TO GET THAT.
WE, WE ARE, BUT WE ARE WORKING HAND IN HAND WITH THE FIRSTNET FOLKS THAT ARE BUILDING THAT TEXAS BROADBAND.
AND SO ANYTIME WE GET AN OPPORTUNITY TO PARTNER WITH THEM, WE HELP DO SOME EXPANSIONS.
THEY CAN'T, NOBODY'S THEY HAVEN'T DONE IT YET.
I MEAN THAT'S A LOT OF MONEY SITTING THERE.
WELL, WE'RE LOOKING FOR THOSE POTS OF MONEY, LEMME TELL YOU THAT.
UM, WE ARE WORKING ON IMPROVING OUR ACCURACY NOT ONLY FOR THE CELL PHONES, BUT ESPECIALLY INDOORS.
WHAT PEOPLE ARE CALLING FOR FROM INDOORS.
THEIR LOCATION IS WORSE THAN OUTDOORS.
SO WE'RE WORKING ON SOME NEW TECHNOLOGY SO THAT WE CAN LOCATE PEOPLE MORE.
AND AS WE DO ALL OF THESE TECHNOLOGICAL ADVANCEMENTS, SECURITY BECOMES, CYBERSECURITY BECOMES MORE AND MORE OF AN ISSUE.
SO WE'RE PUTTING RESOURCES INTO SECURITY.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING.
AND I, I KNOW WE'VE BEEN INTERACTIVE, BUT I JUST WANT TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE.
ANYTHING ELSE THAT'S A BURNING DESIRE TO HEAR FROM THE 9 1 1 FOLKS? YOU SAID YOU HAD EIGHT OUT OF 149 THAT HAVE PASSED RESOLUTION.
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THAT JUST WENT OUT ON THEIR OWN, YOU KNOW, THEY EITHER HAD SOMEBODY ON THE REGIONAL ADVISORY COMMITTEE TO HELP PUSH IT THROUGH OR THEY HAD SOME CHAMPION AND THEY PUSHED IT THROUGH.WE WEREN'T A PART OF THAT, SO WE'RE ACTUALLY THE FIRST GROUP THAT WE REACHED OUT TO.
BUT I HAVE ANOTHER ONE TOMORROW NIGHT AND THE CALENDAR'S FILLING UP.
IS THERE SOMETHING WE NEED OBJECT AT SOME POINT? I WANTED, UH, EVERYBODY TO HEAR CHRISTIE BECAUSE, UH, NOW SHE'S THE RESIDENT EXPERT IN THE REGION ON THIS.
AND SO I WANTED EVERYBODY TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO ASK, UH, ASK QUESTIONS.
AND THEN IF WE DO, UH, APPROVE, UH, WE'LL HAVE TO START WORKING ON OUR VARIOUS COMMUNITIES AS WELL.
I SAY WORKING, TALKING WITH THEM DOWN TO, UH, TO, IF THE COUNTY TAKES THE LEAD, THAT PROBABLY WOULD BE A, UH, A GOOD THING.
I WOULD SUPPOSE WE HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE FROM THE TAR POLICE DEPARTMENT HERE, UH, MR. SAMPSON, OR WOULD YOU CARE TO ADD ANY OF YOUR WISDOM TO THIS? UH, IT'S SIR OBSERVER OBJECT.
I WANTED TO GIVE YOU THE OPPORTUNITY.
WELL, YOU GUYS HAVE HAD SOME REALLY GOOD QUESTIONS.
I APPRECIATE THE INTERACTION AND THE INPUT.
WELL, KENNETH AND I AND MR. OLDFIELD BACK THERE, WE ACTUALLY WENT AND TESTIFIED AT THE SENATE HEARINGS LAST YEAR.
TRYING TO, YOU KNOW, GET 'EM TO PASS.
THEY WERE DISCUSSING AND THEY GREATLY APPRECIATE, YOU KNOW, LETTING EACH COUNTY COME IN OWN DISTRICT OR THIS, AND OF COURSE THE, THE PEOPLE ON THAT COMMITTEE, THEY HAD NO INTEREST IN LETTING GO OF THEIR MONEY.
THEY HAD MILLIONS, 6 MILLION IN THEIR POCKET.
THEY HAD TENS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS YOU UNIT TO BALANCE YOUR BUDGET.
YOU DON'T WANNA LET GO OF, SO NOW YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO FIGURE OUT A WAY TO COME UP WITH SOME MONEY.
NO, A LOT OF THE PEOPLE ON THE COMMITTEE WERE, WERE IN THESE DISTRICTS THAT WERE RECENTLY BORN AND, UH, THEY, THEY HAD NO INTEREST IN IN REDUCING THEIR AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT THEY WERE GONNA GET FROM THE STATE PROTECTING.
SO IS THERE ANY, UM, TALK ABOUT FUTURE LEGISLATION THAT WOULD ALLOW COUNTIES TO BECOME THEIR OWN DISTRICT? LIKE PEA COUNTY? I'VE NOT HEARD OF ANY.
THE SUBJECT COMES UP EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE.
IT USED TO BE AUSTIN, THAT WAS ALWAYS THE CITY THAT WANTED TO PULL OUT BECAUSE OF THEIR POPULATION.
AND OF COURSE NOW THEY DID AS A DISTRICT, BUT WE, WE HAVEN'T, I THINK SINCE THE FRISCO COURT CASE WHERE THEY CAME UP WITH THAT CRAZY ANSWER YEAH.
THAT KIND OF KILLED THE INTEREST OF, AND I'M SURE THAT WAS INTENT.
YOU KNOW, I, I, YOU KNOW, I UNDERSTAND WHY SOME COUNTIES WOULD WANT TO DO IT ON THE ONLY THIS BECAUSE THEY DON'T GET THEIR FAIR SHARE, YOU KNOW? YEAH.
YOU KNOW, IT IT BEEN KIND OF A LITTLE ON SOME PEOPLE, IT'S NOT CO'S FAULT THE STATE.
NO, IT'S NOT THE STATE'S FAULT.
BUT ON THE OTHER HAND, YOU TURN AROUND AND FIGURE OUT REALLY QUICK, WHEN WE MAKE IT OUR NINE ONE, IF THE CITY ALL GET ON BOARD, THEY DON'T REALIZE HOW MUCH CHEAPER IT IS FOR THEM.
YOU KNOW, THAT'S JUST SO MUCH CHEAPER.
IT COMES DOWN TO A LEVEL OF SERVICE.
IT ALLOWS YOU TO OFFER A BETTER LEVEL OF SERVICE AND KEEP THEIR EQUIPMENT.
AND THAT'S JUST WHAT OUR COMMISSIONERS AND OUR COUNCILS ARE ALL ABOUT.
CERTAINLY WE'D LIKE TO GET THE MONEY THAT IS COLLECTED, BUT THE ABILITY TO PROVIDE EXCELLENT SERVICES.
NO, NO, I DON'T
AND YOU KNOW, THE, THE HOUSE HEARING WAS ABOUT, UH, UH, PHIL STEVENSON'S LEGISLATION WAS ABOUT COMPELLING THE LEGISLATURE TO, UH, BUDGET THE MONEY SO THAT WOULD'VE ENDURED TO Y'ALL'S BENEFIT.
AND AND THAT'S REALLY IN YOUR DISCUSSION, BRINGING ABOUT A, A REGIONWIDE DISTRICT.
AND I BELIEVE I HEARD YOUR CORE STATEMENT IS ONCE THAT IS FORMED, THERE'S ALREADY STATUTORY PROVISIONS THAT THE STATE COMPTROLLER WOULD DISTRIBUTE PAST MONEY THAT WOULD ONLY BE DISTRIBUTING FUTURE MONEY.
SO WE'VE STILL GOT THE ISSUE THAT WE'RE TRYING TO ADDRESS WITH THE LEGISLATURE TO BUDGET PAST MONEY TO THE REGENTS.
BUT I, I DO WANNA MAKE A CLARIFICATION THAT I DIDN'T SAY.
SO FROM THAT POINT FORWARD THE DAY OF THE LAST RESOLUTION, THEN OUR PHONE COMPANIES WILL THEN REMIT THE MONEY STRAIGHT TO US TRUST.
SO IT DOESN'T HAVE TO GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS AT ALL.
BUT THE 150 MILLION PAST MONEY THING THAT SITTING THERE, WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO GET THAT IN THE LEGISLATURE.
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LEGISLATURE FOR EVERY PAST SESSION AND AS YOU MENTIONED, WON'T WHO WOULD LET IT GO? SO WE HAVE, WE DON'T 20 YEARS TO SAY, WELL, IT'S OURS NOW.WE'RE DON'T NEED, NEED A LOSS.
BUT EVEN, EVEN JUST RECEIVING THE FUTURE REVENUE, I MEAN THAT, BUT YES, RECEIVING THE FUTURE REVENUE STOP THE BLEEDING.
THE HOUSTON GALVESTON AREA BECAUSE JUST LIKE US, HOW TARANT AND DENTON COUNTY DO THEIR OWN, HOUSTON AND GALVESTON HAVE THEIR OWN 9 1 1 SYSTEM.
SO THE HGAC COG ACT ACTUALLY IS MUCH SMALLER THAN OUR REGION.
AND THEY'VE ARE, AND SO WE WERE KIND OF LIKE, WOW, ARE YOU GONNA BE OKAY ON MONEY? THEY'VE ALREADY GOTTEN THEIR FIRST CHECKS FROM THE WIRELESS AND THEY'RE DOING BETTER THAN THEY.
WELL, JUST LIKE HENDERSON COUNTY, YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE YOUR OWN DISTRICT, YOU CAN BUY THE RADIOS, YOU CAN BUILD YOURSELF A BUILDING.
AND THEY HAVE, AND THEY'VE GOT MILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN THE BANK.
BUT LIKE I SAID, IT'S SLOW STARTING OFF.
IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S WHENEVER THEY FORMED IT, WHAT WAS IT, 89 OR SOMETHING? SOMETHING, IT'S AROUND THE SAME TIME, CAU THAT NEARLY 20 YEARS BEFORE THEY STARTED BILLING.
I MEAN, YOU KNOW, AND THAT'S WHAT WE DID TOO.
WE SIGNED OUR LEGISLATION IN 88 OR 89 AND WE IMPLEMENTED IN 91 BECAUSE WE HAD TO SAVE THE CAPITAL.
YOU HAD TO, YOU CAN'T START WITH NOTHING.
I NEVER LOOKED AT THE HISTORY.
DID, DID THE STATE, HOW LONG HAVE THEY BEEN HOLDING MONEY SINCE THE INCEPTION OF THIS? NO, IT USED TO COME, THE MONEY USED TO COME DIRECTLY TO THE CAUSE IT WAS, IT DID EVERY YEAR THAT THEY, OR BY THEY WOULD ZERO IT OUT.
AND WE HAD, WELL ORIGINALLY WHEN IT CAME TO US, IT DIDN'T GET ZEROED OUT.
WE HAD CAPITAL RECOVERY PLAN PLANS AND FUNDS.
BUT THEN, UM, IN THE EARLY TWO THOUSANDS THERE WAS A, A BIG PUSH TO TAKE THINGS AWAY AND THEY SHIFTED IT AWAY.
SO IT'S JUST, IT'S KIND LIKE A SECRET TAX NOBODY KNEW ABOUT THEY COLLECTION.
I THINK THERE'S LIKE 500 OF US THAT HAVE DEDICATED FUNDS THAT ARE SITTING IN THAT STATE.
NOT PART OF THE HUNDRED 50 MILLION, BUT IN, IN ADDITION TO THAT, WELL THAT'S BUNCH.
BUT WE ARE THE FIFTH LARGEST IN, IN THE ACCOUNTS THAT THEY HOLD FOR GENERAL REVENUE FOR DEDICATED ACCOUNTS.
WE HAVE IT THE LARGEST BALANCE, THE 9 1 1.
ALL WHO'S THE LARGEST? I I DID KNOW THAT, BUT I DON'T REMEMBER THAT NOW.
I MEAN, NO, IT DIDN'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH PUBLIC SAFETY.
I THINK IT HAD TO DO WITH INSURANCE.
LIKE SOMETHING THAT EITHER INSURANCE OR DRIVER OR LICENSE PLATES WHERE YOU PAY A CERTAIN, SOME OF THEM EVEN FIRE DISTRICTS OR UH, VOLUNTEER FIRE DEPARTMENTS AND I MEAN, YEAH.
AND UH, TRAUMA CENTERS AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
AND THAT'S INTERESTING TOO BECAUSE EACH BIENNIUM, ANOTHER ONE OF THOSE LITTLE GROUPS HAVE PITCHED THEIR MONEY TO OUR WAGON AND THEY GET A RIDER SO THEY GET PART OF OUR MONEY.
SO WE DISSOLVING A LITTLE MORE.
IT'S JUST HARD TO SAY, WELL NO, WE DON'T WANT TO HELP THE FIREFIGHTERS BECAUSE OF COURSE THAT'S WHY OF OUR COMMUNITY.
BUT THEY'RE, WE ARE HELPING THEM NOW, SO THEY WON'T TO SEE HOW GOOD OUR ALL OUR GROWTH HAS HELPED YOU QUITE BIT ON THAT.
SO, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR KRISTEN? HOW MANY, HOW MANY DID YOU SAY IT SENT IN SOLUTION ON OUR OWN? EIGHT, NINE.
I THINK IT, IT WAS FOUR COUNTIES AND FOUR CITIES.
AND I THINK WE'VE GOT NINE COUNTIES.
NOT COUNTY DALLAS, TERRAN OR NOT COUNTY, RIGHT.
HAVE WE TAKEN ANY OTHER THAN WHAT JIMMY WAS, COUNTY REGION, WHO, WHO ELSE HAVE WE TAKE ANY TO MAKE IT? 13? UH, WHO, WHICH WE TALKING ABOUT COMAN HUNT.
YOU TALKING ABOUT ROCKWELL? UH, ELLIS, UH, DALLAS, UH, NARO COLLIN.
ERAN, SOMERVILLE PARKER, PAL PINTO.
Y'ALL JUST GOT THROUGH DOING SOME STUFF FOR, HE RAN AT IN A DIFFERENT DEPARTMENT IN ONE CALL.
THEY GOT THE SAME THING EVERYBODY ELSE DID.
CAN YOU GET THOSE NUMBERS TO US? YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT EARLIER ABOUT WHAT THE COUNTY RECEIVED EQUIPMENT VALUE AND OKAY.
THAT WOULD BE WHEN WE WERE DISCUSSING THIS A YEAR, YEAR AND A HALF AGO.
I REMEMBER SEEING SOMETHING IN THE TWO TO $300,000 RANGE.
I THINK IT AVERAGED ABOUT TWO 70 OR SOMETHING.
SO WE WERE BASICALLY LOSING HALF A MILLION DOLLARS COUNTY
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THAT DIDN'T HAVE ALL THE EXPENSE.SO YES, I'LL GIVE THAT TO YOU SO YOU CAN ATE.
ANY, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR CHRISTA? YEAH, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
I THINK WE ALL, THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT.
ALRIGHTY, LET'S MOVE NOW BACK TO ITEM NUMBER SIX.
HOPEFULLY YOUR TRIP HOME WILL BE A LITTLE EASIER TO TRIP OVER THIS MORNING.
SO ITEM NUMBER SIX IS WHEN COMMISSIONER ALLEN TO DISCUSS NOW.
SO HAZARD WASTE DISPOSAL AND KAMAN COUNTY.
WELL, AS WE TALKED ABOUT LAST AL COURT, IT'S SOMETHING WE NEED.
WE NEED TO RESOLVE THIS ISSUE ONE WAY OR ANOTHER.
UH, IF WE KEEP TAKING IT, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO INCREASE OUR BUDGET FOR QUITE A BIT BECAUSE OF THE, UH, GETTING SOMEONE TO COME AND GET IT.
LAST YEAR WE SPENT $5,000 THIS YEAR IN YEARS PAST, THEY WERE NOT KEEPING UP TO CEQ REPORTS.
THEY NOW KNOW WE HAVE THIS AND THEY'RE ON, AND WE WANT THEM TO STAY AWAY THERE.
WE MIGHT HAVE
HOW MUCH, HOW MUCH YOU SAY COST US SPECIAL? 5,000, $5,500 THAT INCLUDING HIS PAY AND ALL THAT? OH NO, THAT'S JUST THE, ALL THAT TOOK OFF.
NO, BUT I MEANT WHAT'S THE TOTAL COST KNOW THERE? OH, I DON'T KNOW.
THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, UH, KENNETH AND I TALKED A BIT ABOUT, ABOUT TRYING TO DO SOMETHING WITH, UH, CONSOLIDATING THE ENVIRONMENTAL CO-OP THING IN CARROLL AND TRY TO MAKE THAT WORK TOGETHER AS ONE ENTITY OR ONE UNIT.
I DON'T KNOW HOW WE DO THAT, BUT I WELL, HE'S GOT A BOARD TOO, YOU KNOW, BUT WHERE WE'RE LOCATED IN THE SOUTHERN END COUNTY, ONE'S GONNA DRIVE DOWN THERE, DROP STUFF.
NO, THEY DON'T GO IN DUMPSTER.
WELL, THAT'S WHAT THAT STATION FOR COLLECT, UH, HAZARD COTTON COUNTY.
THAT'S WHAT ARE WE REQUIRED BY LAW TO HAVE A SIDE? NO, I'VE, I'VE ASKED, UH, PAM TO, AND A COUPLE OF CHARLES TO START LOOKING AND SEE IF THERE'S ANY KIND OF GRANTS AVAILABLE FROM T THAT WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO LATCH ONTO.
KNOW, KNOW IF IT'LL HELP THOUGH.
IF IT'S A PERMANENT, IF IT'S A PERMANENT DEPARTMENT, WE DON'T GET THE GRANT NEXT YEAR.
IT'S GONNA COST US 200,000 NEXT YEAR.
SO, I MEAN, BUT BUILDING THE STUFF, THE BUILDING CAN BE MOVED.
THE OH, IT'S JUST A REAL SMALL BUILDING.
SO MANY FEET AWAY FROM ANY OTHER BUILDING AND LIKE A HUNDRED FOOT NOTHING.
SEE, YOU'D THINK THIS WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT THE STATE WOULD ASSUME THEIR RESPONSIBILITY.
RANDY, DO YOU KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT ANY OF THIS ON ANY OF YOUR MEETINGS YOU'VE ATTENDED? ANYBODY TALK ABOUT THIS TO, TO GET RID OF IT? IT'S TOUGH SUBJECT.
IT'S A MEDICAL WASTE THE SAME WAY THEY SHUT IT DOWN NEARLY EVER, EVER.
REGARDLESS IF YOU DO IT YOURSELF OR CONTRACT MONEY.
WHOEVER ACCEPT IT'S GONNA GET IT.
WHAT WE HAVE, WE HAVE TO CALL THE COMPANY OUT TO COME LOOK AT IT.
IF THEY CAN KNOW WHAT IT IS AND THEY BRING THEIR OWN BARREL AND PUT ALL OUR STUFF IN THEIR BARREL, THEN THEY HAUL THAT OFF AND PICK IT UP WITH WHAT IT'S IN.
IT WANTS THE PAINT CAN LABELS OFF.
THEY STILL, IT'S JUST, OH, IT'S TERRIBLE.
NO, IT'S, IT'S, WELL WE THE ONLY COUNTIES DOING IT.
YOU THINK? I MEAN, WHAT DO OTHER COUNTIES DO? DALLAS, THAT'S, WELL, I MEAN LIKE, I GONNA HAVE A PRIVATE CITY, YOU KNOW, DALLAS CITY
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ARLAND DOES IT, THE CITY DALLAS DOES IT ONE DAY A YEAR OR SOMETHING.GARLAND DOES IT ONE DAY A YEAR COMPANY AND THEY BRING IN THESE COMPANIES AND THEY JUST PAY THEM.
YOU KNOW, THE DALLAS AND GARLAND AND ALL THESE MUSK GARLAND AND ALL.
THEY SAID THERE'S PLAIN OLD ROAD.
CAN WE HAVE RESEARCH AND SEE IF WE CAN GET OUTTA THIS SITUATION? I HATE PUT THE EXTRA WORK CARD.
IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE, UH, HOW ABOUT WE DO A COMPARISON? SEE IF OTHER COUNTIES, LIKE QUESTION THAT YOU'RE ASKING RIGHT NOW.
SEE WHAT OTHER COUNTIES OUR SIZE ARE DOING.
BECAUSE IF IT'S NOT COST, UM, EFFECTIVE FOR US AT THIS POINT IN TIME OR EFFICIENT AND, AND TWO, WE NEED TO FIND OUT IF IT'S MANDATED BY STATE.
IF WE HAVE TO PROVIDE THAT SERVICE, WE HAVE ONE POINT IN THE COUNTY.
THAT MIGHT HAVE BEEN THE REASON FOR CREATING THAT.
YEAH, WELL THEY GOT A GRANT TO START STAYING WITH STARTED.
AND I THINK MAYBE TAG WOULD BE A RESOURCE.
YOU KNOW, THEY MIGHT BE ABLE TO GIVE US SOME IDEA.
I'LL, I'LL TRY TO CONTACT SOMEBODY AND TAG JUST, THAT'S ANOTHER GOOD EXAMPLE OF WHY THEY INTO THAT YOU GOT RECURRING COST FROM NOW.
BUT IN THE MEANTIME, WILL YOU SEE STATE ANY HOUSEHOLD INFORMATION? NO, I THINK JIM, I'LL, I'LL SEE IF WE'VE GOT A COPY.
MAYBE THE COUNTY CLERK MAY HAVE A COPY OF THE ORIGINAL GRANT OR SOMETHING.
DO YOU REMEMBER LAURA BY CHANCE? OKAY.
MAYBE WE GO BACK AND LOOK AT THAT.
BOBBY, DO WE CHARGE FOR THAT CURRENT, FOR THE, UH, DISPOSAL OF THAT HOUSEHOLD WASTE? YES, BUT IT'S FIVE $10.
YEAH, I MEAN I DON'T REMEMBER WHAT THE CD GOT CHARGE, BUT ANYBODY CAN GO, YOU JUST GO UP THERE AND 85 BUCKS GO, WENT IN AND DUMP IT OUT THAT ONE DAY ON YOU HAVE TO BE A RESIDENT.
WE GOT A COPY OF THE ORIGINAL GRANT AND THEN I'LL CALL TAG OR EMAIL SOMEBODY AT TAG TO SEE WHAT THEY KNOW AND PROBABLY EMAIL JIM ALLISON AND SEE IF HE MIGHT HAVE SOME IDEAS.
BUT IT'S SOMETHING WE MAY WANT TO, YOU KNOW, I'M SURPRISED SOME OF THE TRAINING WE'VE HAD DOESN'T INCLUDE THAT.
BUT I'VE NEVER, I'VE NEVER SEEN ANYTHING ON.
SO, BUT WE WILL, WE COULD SUGGEST THAT AS A FUTURE REQUEST.
I KNOW SOME OF THE CITY DO A CONTRACT, THEY WOULD REQUIRE YOU TO DO ONE.
ANY GEAR OR SOMETHING HAVE HAZARD PICKUP.
YEAH, I CHECK WOULD, BASED ON WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, IF YOU WENT OUT TO THE LOCAL WHATABURGER AND ASKED SOMEBODY, WHERE DO YOU TAKE YOUR HAZARD REPLACE? WELL THEY, YOU KNOW, I PUT IT IN MY REGULAR TRASH.
IT'S PROBABLY WHAT THEY'RE GOING DO.
YOU JUST OPEN THE LID AND LET 'EM DRY OUT.
A LOT OF PEOPLE USE LIKE SAFETY CLEAN TO COME BY.
THEY HAVE LIKE A MONTHLY CONTRACT LOAD.
SAFETY CLEAN COME BY AND THEY'LL PICK UP EVERY MONTH.
IT ALL FALLS BACK ON TRASH COMPANY.
NO, BUT IT'S SOMETHING WE NEED TO, WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT WAY OR ANOTHER.
I MADE MYSELF COPIOUS NOTE, BUT WHERE IT IS, HONESTLY WHERE IT IS NOW IS THE WORST LOCATION YOU PROBABLY BE.
IT'S THE FAR END OF THE COUNTY PEOPLE DOWN.
THEY JUST GO RIGHT IN, DON'T THEY? OKAY.
ANYWAY, ITEM NUMBER EIGHT, THE, UH, COMMISSIONER ALLEN TO DISCUSS IMPLEMENTING A COUNTY ASSISTANCE DISTRICT PURSUANT TO SECTION THREE OF THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE.
THE PURPOSE OF SUCH TO ASSIST THE CONSTRUCTION, MAINTENANCE OR I IMPROVEMENT OF ROADS AND HIGHWAYS.
AND I THINK REBECCA, YOU'VE DONE SOME ON THAT.
YOU WANNA BE FILE OPERATOR AGAIN? YOU DON'T HAVE TO.
IT'S DOWNLOADED ON THE BACKDROP.
I THINK THIS, DID WE, Y'ALL GET SOME INFORMATION ON THIS IN YOUR PACKET? YOU GUYS HAVE, BUT YOU HAVEN'T GOTTEN MY SLIDES.
SO I KIND OF ADOPTED, UM, WHAT WAS OUT THERE AND THEN TAILORED IT TOWARDS COFFIN.
I DIDN'T, I DIDN'T, THERE'S A, THERE'S A CORRECTION ON THE BLACK AND WHITE.
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OH NO.UM, I'M JUST NOT SURE WHAT WAS ON THAT'S REASON.
HERE'S A COLOR COPY CORRECTION.
SHE SAID THERE'S PICK UP THE MAYBE, BUT I'VE GOT DESK.
ACTUALLY I COULD READ THAT ON THAT.
SOME OF THE SLIDES ARE HARDER TO SEE WHAT THE NUMBERS, BUT THE ACTUAL, UM, CUTOUTS FROM THERE ARE IN YOUR BOOK.
THE JUDGE DISTRIBUTE ALL THAT FOR YOU.
SO, UM, COMMISSIONER ALLEN WAS KIND OF WANTED SOMETHING JUST TO EXPLAIN WHAT THE ASSISTANCE DISTRICT IS, HOW IT MAYBE WOULD PLAY OUT IN KAUFMAN COUNTY AND WHAT THE TIMELINE WOULD LOOK LIKE IF WE WANT TO CREATE ONE.
SO I PULLED THIS FROM THE STATUTE.
IT'S BASICALLY A SPECIAL DISTRICT THAT WE CAN CREATE AS A COUNTY, UM, TO ABSORB SOME OF THE SALES TAX ON TOP OF THE STATE SALES RATE.
WE CAN CAPTURE, UH, 2% ABOVE THAT.
AND THESE ARE THE DESIGNATED STATUTORY REASONS THAT WE CAN CREATE A DISTRICT UNDERNEATH THE CODE.
AND I MEAN IT RANGES FROM LAW ENFORCEMENT TO ROADS TO LIBRARIES, UM, ECONOMIC TOUR, UH, DEVELOPMENT AND TOURISM.
AND THEN I KIND OF POPPED OUT NUMBER ONE AS WHERE YOU GUYS WANTED TO FOCUS BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT, UH, COMMISSION KIND OF TOLD ME AND I FIGURED YOU GUYS WERE PROBABLY ON THE SAME, UM, BOARD WITH THAT ONE.
MY ONLY, UM, CONCERN THAT I'VE TALKED WITH HIM, JP ABOUT IT IS ALONG THE LINE, IF WE HAVE THIS DISTRICT 50 YEARS FROM NOW, WHAT'S TO SAY WE DON'T NEED SOMETHING TO BENEFIT MAYBE A HOSPITAL OR, UM, SOME TYPE OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT OR MUSEUM.
SO I KIND OF LIKE THE IDEA OF KEEPING IT BROAD AND JUST LETTING IT BE STATUTORY.
UM, BUT HE LIKES IT TARGETED SPECIFICALLY AT ROADS AND HIGHWAYS.
BUT ONCE YOU DO THAT, YOU'LL SPECIFICALLY LIMIT IT.
UM, SO WHY WOULD WE WANT ONE OF THESE DISTRICTS, UM, TO SERVE THOSE PURPOSES THAT ARE LAID OUT IN THE STATUTE.
AND THEN I, I BELIEVE THAT WE CAN ONLY CREATE UP TO FOUR DIFFERENT DISTRICTS.
THEY DO NOT HAVE TO BE IN ANY WAY ALIGNED WITH OUR PRECINCTS.
UM, I CAN TALK ABOUT THAT A LITTLE BIT, BUT BASICALLY IT'S JUST THE FUND, THE NEED THAT WE'RE NOT CURRENTLY ABLE TO DO.
NOW CAN WE DO THIS? CAN WE DO ONE OR YEAH, YOU CAN JUST DO ONE.
YOU CAN OR YOU CAN DO THE MAXIMUM AMOUNT.
SO HOW YOU CREATE IT IS YOU ACTUALLY HAVE TO CALL FOR AN ELECTION WITHIN THAT DISTRICT SO THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN THAT DISTRICT WOULD VOTE FOR IT, THE PROPERTY OWNERS.
AND THEN, UM, IT CAN GO, LIKE I SAID, IT CAN'T EXCEED 2%, SO WE CAN'T, 8.25 IS THE HIGHEST, WHICH IF YOU THE EIGHTH QUARTER IS HIGH AS YOU CAN GO PERIOD ON.
THAT'S ALL THAT THEY CAN TAX UP TO.
AND UM, THEN THE ELECTION CODE, YOU'VE GOTTA CALL THE ORDER PURSUANT TO THAT AND IT KIND OF GETS A LITTLE BIT TECHNICAL, BUT IT'S NOT ANYTHING THAT WE, WE WOULDN'T HAVE DONE FOR ANOTHER BOND ELECTION.
SO IT KIND OF FALLS THE SAME PARAMETERS.
UM, SO THERE, THERE'S KIND OF A FEW DIFFERENT CHOICES FOR YOU GUYS, AND THIS IS WHY WE WANTED TO WORKSHOP IT, IS WE'RE NOT EXACTLY SURE WHERE THE DISTRICTS WOULD BE LOCATED.
AND I THINK MAYBE EACH OF THE PRECINCT COMMISSIONERS MIGHT HAVE A GOOD IDEA OF WHERE THAT NEED IS.
AND THEN WE'LL NEED TO KIND OF PUT IN, UM, THOSE IDEAS TOGETHER AND SEE IF WE CAN STRUCTURE A DISTRICT THERE.
IF WE WANT TO DO ANY TYPE OF CONSULTING ON IT, WE CAN CERTAINLY REACH OUT AND DO IT.
IT'S JUST, UM, THE COST ANALYSIS BEHIND THAT AND PAYING FOR IT.
SO I, I THINK THAT IT IS A PROJECT THAT WE CAN PROBABLY DO IN-HOUSE, UH, TOGETHER, BUT IF IT BECOMES IN THE NEXT FEW WEEKS WHERE WE CAN'T GET OUR DISTRICTS ALIGNED HOW WE WANT THEM, THEN THAT MIGHT BE A POINT WHERE WE WANT TO REACH OUT TO SOMEONE TO HELP US WITH IT.
UM, BUT IT WOULD ENCOMPASS ALL THE UNINCORPORATED PARTS OF THE COUNTY.
AND THEN IT'S TALKING ABOUT GOING FROM 6.25 TO 8.25.
DOES IT HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE ETJ? YEAH.
SO IF IT IS IN THE ETJ, YOU HAVE TO NOTIFY THAT CITY FOR CONSENT IN ORDER TO PUT THE DISTRICT THERE.
AND WE DO HAVE A LOT OF PLAN THAT'S IN ETJ.
AND SO HERE'S YOUR SALES ENTITIES LOCATED AND I JUST LIKE POPPED OUT A FEW OF 'EM THAT ARE, UM, NOT CURRENTLY AT 8.25.
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I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WOULD EVEN WANT TO MESS WITH, UH, PUTTING THE DISTRICT ANYWHERE THAT WOULD BE IN AN INCORPORATED AREA JUST BECAUSE I MEAN MOST OF THESE CITIES SHOULD, SHOULD BE POPPED UP TO THAT, THAT 8.25 ALREADY AND I DON'T, I'M NOT SURE EXACTLY WHY THEY'RE NOT YET BECAUSE IT, BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE A PROBABLY A, WELL THEY MAY NOT BE HAVING THAT THIS THE TAX YEAH.SO, UM, TAX IN THAT AREA ON THAT RATE.
SO THERE'S AT LEAST THAT, THAT THEY COULD BE GRASPING.
AND I KNOW THAT THEY EACH, ESPECIALLY THE SMALLER CITIES HAVE, YOU KNOW, THEY NEED ROAD MONEY.
SO I DON'T SEE, UH, OAK RIDGE OR OAK ROAD ON THAT LIST.
I'M NOT SURE WHERE WHY DIDN'T MAKE THE CUT.
WELL I DON'T THINK THEY CAN USE THAT.
DO THEY DON'T HAVE ONE? CAN THEY, THEY CAN'T USE THAT OTHER 1% FOR ANYTHING EXCEPT FOR, UH, FOR, UH, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT OR A TRANSPORTATION THAT MAY BE, THAT MAY BE TRUE.
SO SEVEN QUARTER HIGH AS THEY GO IF THEY DON'T HAVE ONE OF THOSE TWO THINGS.
I THINK THAT'S, THAT'S WHY THEY'RE AT SEVEN FOUR.
YOU, YOU COULDN'T TAKE THE, MY THING IS I DON'T, I WOULDN'T WANT BUMP IT UP IN A, THIS IS JUST MY PERSONAL VIEWPOINT ON IT IN A, IN A SMALLER CITY BECAUSE EVENTUALLY THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE THOSE THINGS AND THEY'RE GOING TO GROW AND IT'S JUST AN ADJUSTMENT THAT YOU GET TAKEN AWAY FROM YOUR SPECIAL DISTRICT, BUT YOU GUYS MIGHT FEEL DIFFERENTLY ABOUT IT.
SO LIKE POST OAK BEING THERE AT SEVEN A QUARTER MM-HMM
AND YOU COULD GET THE, AN EXTRA SEVEN, YOU COULD GET THE, I THINK YEAH, THEY'RE DIFFERENT.
BUT MY QUESTION TO YOU IS IF IT'S LIKE POST OAK BEING OR SOMETHING, THEY, THEY MIGHT NEVER HAVE A A, UH, SEE I THINK THEY WOULD EVENTUALLY A TRANSPORTATION BILL OR A AND THEY MIGHT GO FOR IT.
THEY MIGHT SAY, WELL, YOU KNOW, YEAH, YOU CAN HAVE THAT 1% FOR THAT.
YEAH, THEY MIGHT, I MEAN IT IS JUST A SIMPLE LETTER.
CAN YOU ASK THEM FOR IT? AND THEN CAN YOU GIVE IT BACK TO 'EM? UH, ONCE THEY'VE BECOME INCORPORATED, THEN YEAH.
AND THAT'S WHERE THE AGREEMENTS KIND OF COME INTO PLACE.
A LOT OF TIMES WHEN YOU'RE SETTING UP THIS TYPE OF, UM, DISTRICT, YOU'VE GOT TO HAVE AN OVERARCHING PLAN FOR LIKE ANNEX.
IF IF THE CITY'S SAYING WE'RE OKAY WITH YOU CAPTURING IT RIGHT NOW, BUT WE'RE GOING TO ANNEX THAT AREA LATER AND WE WANT THAT PERCENT, THEN YOU KIND OF STRUCTURE IT IN THAT WAY AND IT GETS MORE COMPLICATED BECAUSE THE LIKELIHOOD IF YOU DID ONE DISTRICT OF HAVING MORE THAN ONE CITY WOULD, I MEAN IT WOULD HAPPEN, RIGHT? SO YOU HAVE TO HAVE A MATCHING AGREEMENT IN TERMS FOR EACH OF THOSE CITIES.
AND I'M, I MEAN EVERY CITY IS UNIQUE.
THEY'RE NOT GOING TO WANT THE SAME AGREEMENT.
K CREL DOESN'T WANT THE SAME AGREEMENT AS FOUR E, YOU KNOW, BUT, BUT I MEAN SOMEBODY LIKE POST OAK WIND, IF YOU'RE GOING DO AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT OR A, OR A TRANSPORTATION, IT MIGHT BE 30 YEARS DOWN THE ROAD.
YOU'VE THROWN, YOU'VE THROWN ALL THAT MONEY AWAY FOR 30 YEARS AND YOU COULD BE OUT HERE SAYING, WELL, THIS WAY WE CAN COLLECT IT DON AND HELP YOUR ROADS.
I MEAN, ALL THOSE CITIES HAVE ROADS, SO, RIGHT.
THEY COULD, UH, IF THEY SEE THIS COMING, THEY CAN, THEY, THEY HAVE THE ABILITY TO JUMP AHEAD OF US AND AND RAISE THEIR TIME.
THEY CAN DO THAT, BUT THEY CAN ALSO JUST DENY CONSENT.
SO YOU HAVE TO REQUEST CONSENT FROM A CITY PRIOR TO PLACING THIS SPECIAL DISTRICT OVER THEM.
SO BEST THAT IS SAY NO, THAT'S NOT A ONE A TWO FIVE MM-HMM
THEY CAN'T RAISE THEIR SALES TAX FOR THAT, FOR THEIR OWN ROAD.
THEY GO ON ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT OR OR TRANSPORTATION.
WHICH THEY DON'T HAVE IN, THEY DON'T HAVE THE AUTHORITY.
THAT'S HOW DALLAS, THAT'S WHAT IT ALL THE BEGINNING WAS THE DAR BASICALLY PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION.
AND, AND I THINK ON, UH, OAK RIDGE, I, THEY DON'T LEVY ITSELF TAX NOW.
AND I THINK I READ A LEGAL NOTICE IN THE PAPER RECENTLY PAPER WHERE THEY ADVERTISING DO THAT BECAUSE THEY HAD A CELL TOWER I THINK ERECTED.
I THINK, WELL, I MEAN, DON'T THEY COLLECT SALES TAX ON ALL YOUR UTILITY BILLS? IT DEPENDS ON LIKE NATURAL GAS EXEMPT.
UM, I'VE GOT A LIST OF THEM OVER THERE.
A LOT OF UTILITIES ARE EXEMPT.
THE CITY MIGHT NOT, BUT THE COMPANY DOES FROM STATE.
EVEN IF THE CITY DOESN'T HAVE A SALE TAX, THE STATE DOES.
SO IT'S SIX AND A QUARTER ANYWAY.
NO MATTER WHAT, THEY'RE ONLY MISSING 1%.
AND A LOT OF THESE SMALLER COMMUNITIES DON'T EVEN KNOW ABOUT, YOU KNOW, LIKE COTTONWOOD, THEY WERE IN HERE A WHILE BACK VISITING.
WELL, THEY'VE GOTTA DEAL WITH IT TOO.
SO THAT MEANS SOMEBODY'S GOTTA SIT THERE AND RIGHT.
YOU KNOW, THEY GOTTA HIRE AN EMPLOYEE THAT IT DOESN'T EVEN PAY FOR IT.
SO POSITION, SO THE COMPTROLLER'S OFFICE GOT US THE, THE, WELL, I CAN'T TALK THE STATISTICS
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OF HOW MUCH WE ACTUALLY AT THE COUNTY GET IN SALES TAX PER MONTH AND IT WAS LIKE $2.4 MILLION.SO WHEN YOU BREAK IT DOWN INTO THAT RAISING THE 2% AND THE UNINCORPORATED AREA ENDED UP BEING LIKE ALMOST 50,000 A MONTH AND, UH, SIX, AROUND 600,000 ANNUALLY.
AND THAT, THOSE WERE THE NUMBERS THAT WE GOT, UH, DIRECTLY FROM, UH, BAP WHEN THEY WERE HERE LAST TIME.
AND THEY KIND OF DID A QUICK UM, I GUESS FIVE, 10 MINUTES ABOUT THIS SUBJECT WOULD YOU GUYS LAST FALL? SO IT'S, I MEAN IT'S A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT COULD GO TOWARDS, UM, ROAD CONSTRUCTION.
AND I TALKED TO ONE OF THE COMMISSIONERS AT FORT BEND COUNTY AND HE WENT AND GUY THAT GOT THE LEGISLATION DONE YEARS AGO TO START THESE THINGS.
AND OF COURSE HE SAID IT'S BEEN A WINDFALL BECAUSE WHAT USED TO IS GROWING, HE SAID, BUT THE PROBLEM IS IF YOU GO INTO THE CITY'S ETJ, YOU GET THAT TAX MONEY UNTIL THEY ANNEX ANNEX IT IN, BUT YOU GET IT IN BETWEEN TIME.
BUT EVERYTHING THAT'S OUTSIDE OF THAT, YOU GET TO KEEP THAT FOREVER.
SO EVEN IF THEY ANNEX IT, IT'S STILL YOURS.
AND IN A LOT OF THEIR DISTRICTS NOW THEY HAVE SIX DISTRICTS AND THEY'RE TRYING TO DO SMART, THEY GET SUPPORT ONE TIME SO YOU CAN DO, I THINK THAT'S PROBABLY CORRECT.
AND HE SAID THAT IN A LOT OF THESE DISTRICTS THERE ONLY THREE PEOPLE VOTED.
BECAUSE THERE'S ONLY THREE RESIDENTS LIVE IN THAT AREA WHO HAVE A HOME.
AND SO THEY GO, HE SAID, WE WENT AND DID OUR HOMEWORK FIRST.
WE FOUND WHERE, LET'S SAY IN ANY OF OUR STATE OR INTERSTATE GROVE WHERE THERE'S NO CITIES THERE, ONE OR TWO PEOPLE LIVE THERE.
THEY WOULDN'T SAY, HEY LOOK, HERE'S WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO THIS OKAY WITH YOU.
THEY GO OUT AND BUILD A BIG TRUCK STOP OUT THERE TO COLLECT SALE TANK.
OTHERWISE WE'RE MISSING ALL THAT MONEY.
THAT'S WHY THE TRUCK STOPS BAIL OUT IN THE COUNTY.
IT'S GOING TO FREEZE YOUR DISTRICT AND YOUR INCORPORATED AREAS PERMIT.
SO I PUT A COUPLE SLIDES WITH SOME PRACTICAL CONSIDERATION.
THIS ONE TALKS ABOUT EJS AND HOW YOU HAVE TO GET CONSENT COMMISSIONER'S TALKING ABOUT THAT.
AND THEN ALSO, UM, THE FUNDS THAT YOU CATCH AT 2% IN THE SPECIAL DISTRICT CAN ONLY BE USED FOR PROJECTS WITHIN THAT AREA WHERE THE DISTRICT IS.
SO YOU'VE GOT TO BE VERY CAREFUL THAT YOU'RE PLANNING YOUR DISTRICT AROUND WHERE YOU NEED THE FUNDS.
AND UM, AT THE LAST POINT OVER THERE, IT TALKS ABOUT THE MULTI-CITY ISSUE WHERE IF YOU'VE GOT TWO DIFFERENT CITIES AND YOU'RE TRYING TO WORK ON AN AGREEMENT FOR THE SAME DISTRICT, OBVIOUSLY THEY'RE GOING TO WANT DIFFERENT THINGS.
UM, IF YOU'RE CONTRACTING WITH THEM TO CATCH MONEY WITHIN THEIR ETJ OR WITHIN THEIR CITY, I DON'T THINK ANY OF OUR LARGER CITIES ARE NOT MAXING OUT WHAT, WHAT IS CAPABLE.
SO YOU DON'T HAVE THAT AS MUCH.
BUT THE E TJS WILL BE A, A BIG CONSIDERATION.
AND THEN, UM, THAT'S THE, THE BOUNDARY ISSUE IS THE ONE WE HAVE TO SPEND THE FUNDS WHERE IT'S WITHIN THE BOUNDARY.
UM, AND THEN ALSO THE RESIDENTIAL LAND.
IF YOU'RE PUTTING THAT IN YOUR DISTRICT, THEN YOU'RE, YOU'RE GETTING LIKE COMMISSIONER ZA WAS SAYING THE CABLE AND THE PHONE, AND THEN IT'S TECHNICALLY CELL PHONES BECAUSE THERE'S A DIFFERENTIATION BETWEEN TELECOMMUNICATIONS, IT IS ACTUALLY EXEMPT.
SO THEY DEFINE CELL PHONES OUTSIDE OF THAT EXEMPTION.
BUT NOT, UM, I GUESS OTHER FORMS OF COMMUNICATION, I DON'T THINK, I THINK, UM, LIKE I KNOW NATURAL GAS SPECIFICALLY IS EXCLUDED AND SOME OTHER HOME, UH, UTILITY SERVICES.
UH, SO IT TALKS ABOUT YOUR INITIAL BOUNDARY.
IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THAT WE GET THE DISTRICTS KIND OF HOW WE WANT THEM NOW BECAUSE GOING BACK REQUIRES A LOT MORE WORK AND IT'S KIND OF JUST DO IT RIGHT THE FIRST TIME SO THAT WE'RE NOT HAVING TO CONSTANTLY CORRECT OUR DISTRICTS.
UM, AND THEN IMPORTANT THINGS.
SO THERE'S PROBLEM WITH US JUST DOING ONE DISTRICT FOR THE WHOLE COUNTY.
WE CAN, WE CAN, WE CAN DO IT, BUT IT WOULD REQUIRE A LOT OF STRATEGY AND A LOT OF PEOPLE, UM, CITIES TO CONSENT.
AND THEN IF THEY'RE, IF SOME OF THE AREA IS IN THEIR ETJ, I REALLY THINK THEY'RE GONNA WANT A TAILORED AGREEMENT IN ORDER TO GAIN THEIR CONSENT THAT WILL NOT, UM, BE THE SAME AS WHAT ANOTHER CITY WOULD WANT.
SO THAT'S WHY CHUNK OUT THE DISTRICT.
WELL WE HAVE THOSE CONSENT AGREEMENTS, YOU KNOW, LIKE YOU BUNCH MONEY AND THEY SAID, YEAH, SURE DO THE WHOLE EJ AND THEN AS WE ANNEX IT, YOU GIVE IT BACK TO US AND IT'S NO BIG DEAL.
BUT THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO VOTE IT IN.
SO YOU'RE SEPARATE THAT DISTRICT OUT
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BECAUSE BE TOO MANY AND THEY MIGHT TURN IT DOWN.AND SO BASED ON WHAT YOU GUYS WANNA USE THE FUNDS FOR, MY PROPOSAL WOULD BE TO KIND OF TAILOR THE DISTRICTS OFF OF WHERE
UM, THEN AGAIN, THAT'S KIND OF THE SHORT TERM THINKING VERSUS LONG RANGE BECAUSE EVENTUALLY MOST OF OUR AREA WILL HAVE SOME FORM OF TRANSPORTATION OR ROAD THAT NEEDS TO BE, UM, MAINTAINED PROBABLY.
BUT IF YOU THINK THAT FAR DOWN, MOST OF IT WOULD PROBABLY BE INCORPORATED BY SOME POINT LIKE A HUNDRED YEARS OUT FROM NOW.
SO, SO THE ONLY PEOPLE YOU'RE STILL CATCHING THE MONEY, SHOULD WE PROCEED? THE ONLY PEOPLE THAT ACTUALLY VOTE ON THIS, NONE OF THEM MUNICIPALITIES WOULD VOTE, RIGHT? RIGHT.
ONLY PEOPLE LIVE IN ALL THE DISTRICT.
SO UNLESS YOU'RE CATCHING SOME OF THE SMALLER MUNICIPALITIES, THEN THAT WOULD BE A CORRECT SAFETY DEAL.
BUT THEN THE FUNDING CAN ONLY BE USED FOR WITHIN THE DISTRICT PROJECTS WITHIN A SINGLE DISTRICT OR ALL THE DIFFERENT DISTRICTS.
IF YOUR MONEY GETS, IF 10,000 COMES FROM DISTRICT ONE, IT'S GOTTA GO TO DISTRICT ONE.
SO THE WAY THAT IT'S GOVERNED IS IT'S TECHNICALLY A POLITICAL SUBDIVISION TO STATE.
SO YOU'VE GOT OPEN MEETINGS ARE ABIDE BY AND YOUR UH, FIVE MEMBER BOARD CAN EITHER BE YOUR COMMISSIONER'S COURT OR YOU CAN APPOINT A GOVERNING BODY OF FIVE DIRECTORS.
SO IF WE DO MULTIPLE DISTRICTS, THAT'S PROBABLY THE WAY THAT WE'LL WANT TO GO TO POINT VERSUS YEAH.
BUT FIVE PEOPLE IN THE MET HEARING.
BUT I WOULD, UH, RECOMMEND AT LEAST ONE OR TWO COMMISSIONERS SITTING ON THE BOARD.
THAT WAY YOU'RE MONITORING IT CONSTANTLY.
BECAUSE LIKE I KNOW THAT, UH, MR. OLDFIELD CAN PROBABLY SPEAK TO THIS.
OUR SPECIAL DISTRICTS ARE
LIKE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT GRADING A DISTRICT THAT WE HAVE TO APPOINT BOARD MEMBERS FOR.
WE HAVE OTHER DISTRICTS IN OUR COMMUNITY LIKE THAT THAT HAVE LAPSED AND WE NEED TO APPOINT BOARD DISTRICTS OR BOARD MEMBERS FOR.
SO IT'S JUST A CONSTANT CONNECTION TO THE PROJECT AND MAKING SURE THAT YOU'RE KEEPING IT FINANCIALLY RESPONSIBLE AND NOT LETTING IN SOMEONE CONTROL IT.
THAT THAT WOULD NOT ALL I'M SAYING IS GOOD INTENTION.
SOMETIMES 50 YEARS FROM NOW YOU'VE GOTTA MAKE SURE YOUR FRAMEWORK'S GOOD BECAUSE NO ONE, NONE OF US ARE GONNA BE MONITORING 50 NOT IN 50 YEARS.
SO THE WAY OUR TIMELINE WORKS ONLY IN THAT DISTRICT, ENTIRE COUNTY DISTRICT.
OH, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO DO THAT.
YOU'RE GONNA NEED TO FILL IT UP.
YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO DO IT IF YOU DON'T DO ANY E TJS.
THAT'S THE ONLY WAY YOU CAN DO IT.
YEAH, YOU'D HAVE TO DO MULTIPLE DISTRICTS, BUT YOU MIGHT WANT TO EXCLUDE SOME AREAS JUST BECAUSE WELL, OKAY.
SO YOU CAN JUST TAKE A LOT MORE DISCUSSION THAN TODAY.
YEAH, THE DISTRICT ISSUE IS, IS HUGE.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S DEFINITELY ANOTHER ITEM DONE.
SO THE TIMELINE IS KIND OF QUICK BECAUSE WE WANT PUT IT ON THE NOVEMBER ELECTION.
SO JUNE JULY IS REALLY WHEN WE HAVE TO HAVE OUR RESOLUTION AND BEFORE WE CALL FOR AN ELECTION, WE HAVE TO SEND 60 DAYS NOTICE OUT TO ANY CITIES OR E TJ THAT WE'RE PROPOSING.
SO THAT PUTS US AROUND JUNE 18 OR 20TH AROUND THAT PERIOD OF TIME.
SO REALLY JUST A MONTH AND A HALF, NOT VERY LONG FOR US TO PREPARE THE DISTRICTS.
AND UM, THE WEEK OF THE AUGUST 15TH, I WAS PLUGGED IN.
THE 18TH IS WHEN WE NEED TO GO AHEAD AND CALL TO PUT THAT, UM, ON THE BALLOT.
AND THEN I STUCK IN HERE THE TOWN HALL MEETINGS BECAUSE I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE EDUCATING PEOPLE WHY IT'S ON THERE VERSUS, UM, PEOPLE GETTING SURPRISED WHEN THEY'RE VOTING AND SAYING, OH, MY TAXES ARE ARE GOING UP.
UM, IT NEEDS TO BE VERY JUST, YOU KNOW, STRAIGHTFORWARD THAT IT'S A SALES TAX.
6.25 IS WHAT'S CHARGED BY THE STATE.
THE COUNTY'S, UM, INTRODUCING DOING THE 8.25.
I THINK, UH, JUDGE PROVIDED A LIST OF, I KNOW LIKE 40, 50 OTHER COUNTIES WHO DO THE SAME THING.
WE HAVE MULTIPLE DISTRICTS, SO IT'S NOT A UNIQUE THING THAT KAUFMAN'S JUST TRYING TO DO.
UM, IT'S JUST SPECIFICALLY TARGETED TOWARDS, UM, THIS IS WHERE COMMISSIONER ALLEN'S ARGUMENT COMES IN TOWARDS ROADS AND UM, CREATING FUNDING THAT'S, THAT'S THERE.
YOU SAID THIS WITHOUT INCREASING PROPERTY TAXES.
YOU SAID THIS WAS A SALES TAX ONLY.
IT'S A, IT'S A SALES TAX ON PEOPLE
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ON PURCHASES IN THE UNINCORPORATED AREA.ALRIGHT, WELL LOOKING AT THIS GOVERNMENT CHAPTER CODE 3 87 MM-HMM
3 87 0.011 IN POSITION OF TAX.
UH, ITEM B SAYS THERE IS ALSO IMPOSED AN EXCISE TAX ON THE USE STORAGE OR OTHER CONSUMPTION IN THE DISTRICT OF TANGIBLE PERSONAL PROPERTY PURCHASE LEASED OR RENTED FROM A RETAILER DURING THE PERIOD THAT THE TAX IS EFFECTIVE IN THE DISTRICT.
IS THAT NOT LIKE A, UM, UH, TAX IN YOUR ASSETS BUT WE DON'T CALL CAN LOSE PERSONAL PROPERTY TAX EXCEPT ON THE BUSINESS? NO, IT IS TALKING ABOUT INVENTORY TAX.
IS THAT NOT RIGHT? I HAVEN'T LOOKED AT THAT SPECIFICALLY, SO I'D HAVE TO GO BACK AND SO IF, IF A, IF A RETAILER SAY ONE OF THOSE BUSINESSES OUT THERE ON 1 75, IF THEY, UH, ORDER WELL, ANY BUSINESS, WELL ANY BUSINESS IS ARE ALREADY GOING TO BE SPECIFICALLY ON THEY GOT SOMEONE HAS TO BUY SOMETHING S WORTH TO GET COLLECTED.
THAT'S WHAT FORT BEND COUNTY ARE DOING.
ONLY OWN SOMETHING THAT'S SOLD, THAT'S COLLECTED NOT ON INVENTORY.
AND THAT MAY BE SOMETHING THAT YOU CAN SPECIFY AND TAKE OUT, UM, IN YOUR BALLOT INITIATIVE.
THE WAY I'M READING, I'M NOT AN ATTORNEY, WE MIGHT NEED AN ATTORNEY TO READ THIS MR. MOLEY, BUT THAT LOOKS LIKE A, UH, INVENTORY HAT AND THE GAP FOR BAY COUNTY SAID HE COULD COME AND DO, I DIDN'T GO TO LAW SCHOOL FOR NOTHING OVER HERE.
UM, NO, I'LL LOOK AT IT COMMISSIONER AND MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S NOT A DOUBLE INITIATIVE, BUT I DON'T THINK THE BALLOT INITIATIVE IS WORDED THAT WAY.
IT MIGHT BE SAYING THAT IF YOU STORAGE, YOU KNOW, LIKE A STORAGE UNIT PLACE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, OTHER WORDS, IT'S A, IT'S ALSO A SALES TAX ITEM.
I GUESS PEOPLE THAT RENT STORAGE BUSINESS, LIKE THERE'S A SALES TAX IF YOU RENT A LIKE STORAGE UNIT OUT THERE.
WE'LL CHECK, WE'LL CHECK INTO IT.
BUT THAT MIGHT BE WHAT IT'S TRYING TO SAY.
THAT'S THE PURPOSE OF THE WORKSHOP BET.
BECAUSE I DON'T WANT THAT TO COME DOWN THE LINE AND PEOPLE SAY, OH WELL THIS IS GOING TO TO HAPPEN AND THEY'RE UPSET AND NEITHER DOES COMMISSIONER WEST TEXAS.
THEY GOT THOSE, THEY GOT THOSE GREAT BIG TANKS FILLED FUEL AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF.
BUT THAT, WELL I THINK EVERYBODY JUST HAS, YOU KNOW, INVENTORY OF SOME SORT, SO YEAH, BUT THEY RENT 'EM, THEY DON'T PURCHASE, THEY DON'T OWN IT.
IF THEY OWN IT AND THEY OWN THE PRODUCT THAT'S GOING INTO IT, IT WOULDN'T BE TAXED.
BUT I'VE RENTED YOUR, YOUR STORAGE TANK AND FILLED IT FULL OF GASOLINE, THEN YOU CAN CHARGE ME SALES TANKS BECAUSE YOU'RE, YOU'RE, YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? WELL IT'S LIKE A SERVICE AGREEMENT OR SOMETHING WE CAN YEAH.
NO, THAT'S A QUESTION THAT NEEDS TO BE VETTED.
THAT WOULD BE AN ISSUE IN THE GENERAL NO, I THINK ONLY PROPERTY TAX CAN AS TAXES FOR THAT STORAGE TAX, LIKE TO DO WALMART AT END OF THE YEAR AND STUFF.
THEY'RE ALREADY TAXED FOR THAT.
I MEAN THIS, THIS THEIR FIRST STAFF AT IT.
YEAH, WE GOT A LOT OF MY QUESTION.
I, I I CAN, I'M NOT SURE IF WE CAN GET THIS DONE BY NOVEMBER.
SO THE DISTRICT'S OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE TO WORK ON THOSE.
SO WITHIN THE NEXT MONTH AND A HALF, HOW DO YOU GUYS, HOW WOULD YOU PREFER TO WORK ON THOSE? SOMETIME, ISN'T IT? WELL I THINK WE START WORKING ON BUDGET SOMETIME.
ARE WE? THAT'S SOMETHING ELSE.
BUDGET? NO, WE'RE NOT GONNA DO THAT THIS YEAR.
ARE WE? I THINK EACH COMMISSIONER AREA IN, IN THEIR PRECINCT DISTRICT PIT, ANY, THEY KNOW THE AREA BETTER THAN MINE.
WELL I MEAN AND IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT ONE PRECINCT IS INTERESTED AND NOT OTHERS, THEN THAT COULD BE, WE COULD JUST DO IT FOR, I MEAN IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE PRECINCT FACE, IT CAN BE CROSS COUNTY MIGHT BE EASIER.
CALL IT PRECINCT BE USED, YOU KNOW, IF WE MAY ONLY FOR ROADS, PUT SOMETHING ELSE BESIDES ROADS.
EVERYBODY WANTS THOSE PEOPLE I THINK, YOU KNOW.
WELL, AND YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO FOUR DISTRICTS AT ONCE.
IF ONE COMMISSIONER ONCE HAS A AREA THAT THINKS WOULD MAKE A DISTRICT AND YOU WANT TO FLOW TO TRIAL MAL ALONE WITH THE VOTING PUBLIC DO A ONESIE.
IF YOU'RE, IF YOU'RE, IF YOU'RE WANTING TO ACHIEVE SOME TIME, THIS WOULD BE, HAVE MULTIPLE ELECTIONS.
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BEFORE NOVEMBER, I THINK MULTIPLE ITEMS. BUT THEN ON THE OTHER HAND, IF WE EVER REALLY NEEDED SOMETHING THAT DRASTIC TO CHANGE, WE COULD TAKE, YOU KNOW, YOU UH, YEAH.UH, NO A PARTICULAR THING WE COULD FILL, SPEND ROAD BRIDGE MONEY ON SOMETHING ELSE, BUT WE COULDN'T SPEND THE DISTRICT MAIL, YOU KNOW, AND SO YEAH, THAT'S, IT WOULD BE A GOOD DESIGNATED THING I THINK.
YEAH, BECAUSE IT'D BE PERMANENT JUST TO THAT.
AND YOU COULDN'T BE FOOL WITH IT.
'CAUSE SURE ENOUGH, IN FOUR YEARS IT WOULD ALL BE GOING FOR SOMETHING ELSE INSTEAD OF BLUE BRIDGE.
EVERYBODY HAS A TENDENCY TO TAKE AWAY FROM IT.
ALRIGHT, LET'S, UH, GOT NUMBER EIGHT DONE.
WE DO NEED TO GO INTO A SPECIAL MEETING NOW AND I WOULD UH, THE TIME IS 1140 AND I NEED A MOTION TO EXIT INTO AN EXECUTIVE SESSION MOTION, UH, KENNETH ALL AND, AND SO WE WILL EXIT AND UH, WE'LL DO THAT UNDER SECTION 5 5 1 0 7 2.
AND I NEED EVERYBODY TO EXIT EXCEPT, UH, MR. AND UH, JOHN, YOU CAN COME UP ALRIGHTYY, WE, UH, EXITED THE, UH, EXIT THE, UH, EXECUTIVE SESSION AT 1213 ON A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS AND A SECOND BY LIK AND AFTER WE VOTED, THAT WAS UNANIMOUS DECISION TO EXIT THE EXECUTIVE SESSION.
UH, AND NOW ITEM NUMBER, WE DID BOTH DIDN'T WE? YES.
ITEM NUMBER 11 IS TO DISCUSS, WELL, NUMBER 12 IS TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER TAKING ANY ACTION NEEDED AS A RESULT OF THE EXECUTIVE SESSION.
YEAH, I GUESS I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO, UH, TAKE ACTION.
HIRE AN APPRAISAL FOR THIS PROPERTY LOCATED WHEREVER IT'S LOCATED.
WOULD YOU WANT TO DESIGNATE SOMEBODY TO DO THAT RATHER THAN US HAVING THE COUNTY JUDGE? YEAH.
RATHER THAN US HAVING AN INTERVIEW APPRAISAL, THEY MAKE THE COUNTY JUDGE TO YEAH, I MAY MAKE YOU TO RAI OKAY.
AND, AND THEN WE NEED TO MAKE A MOTION IN THERE ALSO TO GET A PRICE AND, AND AS SOON NEGOTIATE THE PRICE THAT MAYBE PURCHASE THIS, THIS PROPERTY DEPENDING ON APPRAISAL.
AND YOU GUYS ARE DISCUSSING ITEM B, CORRECT? YES.
THE PROPERTY LISTED UNDER ITEM B.
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM, UH, COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS.
AND DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND, UH, COMMISSIONER AL SECOND.
DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER DISCUSSIONS ITEM? THEY ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
NOW IF YOU COULD PUT THOSE INTO WORDS THAT I CAN UNDERSTAND, THAT WOULD BE AWESOME.
UH, MOTION TO AUTHORIZE COUNTY JUDGE TO YOUR A, A LICENSE APPRAISAL, ARAI TO, UH, VALUE THE WHATEVER THOSE PROPERTIES ARE LISTED TODAY.
PROPERTIES OVER THERE VACANT? WE HAVEN'T VOTED ON YET.
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RIGHT.