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OFFICIAL WORKSHOP MEETING OF THE, UH, COMMISSIONER'S COURT.
AND, UH, WE'RE GOING TO GO INTO A EXECUTIVE SESSION JUST FOR VERY FEW MINUTES TO, UH, TALK ABOUT SOME PROPERTY THAT THE COUNTY IS LOOKING AT THE POSSIBILITY OF, UH, UH, PURCHASING ON ITEM NUMBER TWO.
UH, SO, UH, THOSE OF YOU THAT ARE IN HERE, IF YOU COULD STEP OUTSIDE JUST FOR A LITTLE BIT AND THEN, UH, I'LL, A MOTION TO ENTER OUT.
THIS IS TO, ALRIGHT, WE HAVE EXITED THE EXECUTIVE SESSION.
THE NEXT ITEM IS TO DISCUSS ON FOURTH TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER TAKING ANY ACTION NEEDED.
AS A RESULT, THE EXECUTIVE, AND I'LL MAKE A MOTION, WE CONTINUE TO DISCUSS AND NEGOTIATE LAW WITH THE FIRST FEBRUARY 1ST CHURCH AND THE COUNTY JUDGE IS GONNA BE THE NEGOTIATOR.
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM, UH, COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS SECOND.
HAVE A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER.
DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
UH, NEXT ITEM, UH, IS OUR WORKSHOP.
UH, AND, UH, WE'VE ALREADY, UH, WE NEED TO I GUESS GO AHEAD AND A MOTION TO ADJOURN AND ENTER INTO A WORKSHOP MEETING.
ALL THAT MEANS IS ANYTHING YOU DO AFTER THIS ITEM THAT WE JUST GOT DONE STRICTLY WORKSHOP.
SO WE HAVE A MOTION FROM, UH, COMMISSIONER ALLEN.
ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY A.
I BELIEVE, UH, ALL OF YOU PROBABLY BY NOW HAVE A, UH, UH, COPY OF THE, UH, AGENDA FOR TODAY.
TODAY IS THE SEVENTH AND THE FIRST ITEM, I BELIEVE WE'RE RUNNING A LITTLE AHEAD OF TIME, BUT WE'RE, UH, WE'RE OKAY.
THIS IS JUDGE RICH'S COURT, AND I BELIEVE IN FACT, WE HAVE A NUMBER OF THESE, UH, FOLKS, UH, COUNTY, YEAH.
NUMBER OF FOLKS HAVE REQUESTED NO CHANGE.
AND AS YOU RECALL, WHEN WE SENT THIS DOCUMENT OUT, WE ASKED, UH, THE, UH, DEPARTMENT HEADS AND ELECTED OFFICIALS, UH, UH, TO KEEP THEIR REQUEST, UH, YOU KNOW, LIMITED.
UH, BUT IF THEY ABSOLUTELY NEEDED SOMETHING TO, UH, LET US KNOW ABOUT THAT.
SO WE NOT WANT TO COLLECT SOMETHING THAT, UH, WAS, UH, SOMETHING THEY NEEDED.
UH, BUT SEVERAL OF THEM HAVE INDICATED THEY HAVE NO CHANGES.
THE OTHER THING WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT TODAY ABOUT ANY KIND OF SALARY INCREASE BECAUSE WE, WHAT THAT WILL BE, UH, WE'VE NOT RECEIVED OUR FINAL VALUES FROM THE APPRAISAL DISTRICT, AND THAT'LL BE ANOTHER MONTH BEFORE WE GET THOSE.
WE KNOW THEY'RE GONNA BE UP, WE JUST DUNNO HOW MUCH THEY'RE GONNA BE UP BECAUSE THEY'RE NOW HAVING THE HEARINGS BEFORE, UH, THE APPRAISAL REVIEW BOARD.
BUT, UH, BUT I THINK, UH, ACCORDING TO THEM, THEY'RE LOOKING FOR A RECORD NUMBER OF PROTESTS.
WHAT I'VE HEARD TOO, SO I KNOW WHAT TO WIND UP.
I SAID EVERY HOUSE CORN IS WORTH 15 TO 40% VALUE INCREASE.
I GUESS THEY'RE, I'M SURE THEY, UH, SO ANYWAY, BY THE WAY, I FORGOT TO MENTION, UH, COMMISSIONER, UH, SHANE, HE'S NOT HERE THIS
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MORNING.HE'S HAD A MEDICAL, UH, CONDITION AND NOT ABLE TO, UH, HOSPITAL WILL WORK WITH THE DOCTOR.
AND SO WE NEED THOUGHTS AND PRAYERS REST, UH, THROUGH THE DAY.
WE'LL MAYBE, UH, HEAR A LITTLE BIT MORE LATER ON.
UH, JUDGE RICH IS, UH, THE FIRST ITEM THERE.
UH, YOU SEE WHERE HE IS, UH, HE'S REQUESTING NO CHANGES FROM LAST YEAR.
UH, ANYBODY HAD ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT JUDGE RICH'S? UH, I'M MUCH GONNA CUT
WELL, WE CAN, WE CAN COME BACK TO IT.
HE ALSO HAS A SECOND BUDGET LIBRARY.
AND THIS JUST SO YOU'LL KNOW, KAREN, DO YOU OR KW, DO Y'ALL HAVE THE, UH, WHAT IS THE FUND BALANCE IN THAT COUNTY COURT LIBRARY? AND YOU CALL THAT UP? I KNOW IT'S CONTINUING TO GROW.
YEAH, IT'S, IT'S IN THE 300,000.
WE HAD TROUBLE CONNECTING TO THE NETWORK, BUT LORI'S GOT US DONE NOW, SO OH, OKAY.
JUST CURRENT FUND BALANCE IS 236,000 3 44 2 36 KEEP SIX.
SO, UH, THAT'S BEING SAID, UH, THEY'VE DONE A LITTLE WORK UPSTAIRS AND I THINK THEY'VE ADDED ANOTHER COMPUTER OR TWO MAYBE UP THERE.
AND I THINK IT REPLACE THE FLOORING BACK DURING, EARLIER IN THE YEAR.
BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE DISCUSSED ABOUT AT SOME POINT IN TIME, SHOULD THE COUNTY MOVE FORWARD, BUILDING A JUSTICE CENTER, THIS, UH, VA APPROVES COULD BE USED BILL LAW LIBRARY AT THE JUSTICE CENTER AT SOME POINT IN TIME.
SO IT'S NOT LIKE, WON'T BE GOING, IT MIGHT BE BETTER THAN THE, IT COULD BE AS AS.
UH, AND JUDGE, UH, JONES, DO YOU KNOW IF JUDGE RICH WAS PLANNING ON COMING OVER OR, UH, WELL, I WAS TOLD THAT HE WAS NOT GOING TO COME OVER AND FOR ME TO TAKE HIS SPOT AND I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD OR SUBTRACT, SO, OKAY, WELL, WHILE YOU'RE HERE, LET'S JUST DO THAT.
ALL YOU WANTED TO DO WAS CUT IT 25%.
SO THAT IS THAT ALL? SO DENNIS, UH, JUDGE JONES HAS INDICATED ON GI THAT, UH, HE'S NOT REQUESTING ANY ADDITIONAL FUNDING AND OF COURSE ON SALARIES AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE, WE'RE NOT DOING ANYTHING AT THIS POINT IN TIME.
ONE OF THE BIG THINGS THAT WE DO NOT KNOW YET, AND LAURIE HELPED ME, WE WON'T HAVE OUR HEALTH INSURANCE COST PREMIUM UNTIL ANY DAY NOW.
I JUST SPOKE WITH THEM YESTERDAY AND, UM, THEY HAD JUST FINISHED THEIR NEW MEETING LAST WEEK, SO HOPING WE GET IT IN THE NEXT WEEK OR TWO.
AND THAT'S ALWAYS A BIG ISSUE OR A BIG NUMBER BECAUSE WE PAY ALL THE HEALTH INSURANCE COSTS FOR OUR EMPLOYEES.
AND SO IT WOULD BE GOOD THAT WHEN WE MEET AGAIN, WE'LL HAVE THAT NUMBER AGAIN.
DID THEY GIVE ANY COMMUNICATION? UM, I WAS TOLD THAT THE FUND WAS DOING REALLY WELL, SO.
JUDGE, YOU HAVE ANY PERMISSIONS? Y'ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? UH, FOR JUDGE, SHOULD I DO JONES? YES.
ALL THE ITEMS WHICH IS SALARY ENGINE COORDINATED.
WHAT DOES THAT PERSON DO? I KNOW WE'RE COORDINATED.
OH, SHE ANNETTE, IS THAT A FULLTIME PERSON OR PART-TIME? IT, I MEAN, IS ANNETTE LARSON OKAY.
SHE ASSIGNS THE ATTORNEYS, THE PEOPLE WHO ARE INDIGENT IN JAIL, SEE IF THEY'RE ALL, ALL THE FARMS TOO AND ALL THAT.
CHECKS ALL THE FARMS. AND SHE ALSO DOES, AND SHE'S FOUND SEVERAL INSTANCES WHERE PEOPLE HAVE DECLARED THAT THEY WERE INDIGENT
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AND SURE ENOUGH THEY WEREN'T.AND I THINK SHE'S CUT OUT A LOT OF, UH, PEOPLE THAT WERE ORDINARILY THE COURT WOULD'VE APPOINTED OR THAT THE, UH, JUDGES WOULD'VE APPOINTED BECAUSE WE FOUND OUT THEY HAVE ASSETS.
DO YOU HAVE ANY REALIZED STORY? CAN GO TO THE WORKFORCE COMMISSION AND, AND GET FORMS AND MAKES THEM SUBMIT PAPERWORK AND TAKES IT OFF AND SAYS NOT QUALIFIED, REJECT HOW THE PROCESS WENT AND WHAT THEY DID.
SO, OR SHE SAID, YEAH, YOU, YOU AN ATTORNEY.
WE'VE GOT SOME TOOLS THAT HAVE BEEN HELPFUL, I THINK, UH, LEXINEXIS AND SOME OTHER THINGS WHERE THEY CAN ACTUALLY CAN CHECK ASSETS.
SHE'S PRETTY PASSIONATE ABOUT IT ACTUALLY.
YEAH, I THINK SHE, SHE'S CUT DOWN EVEN THOUGH IT DOESN'T APPEAR, BUT IT HAS, IT HAS CUT DOWN ON NUMBER OF PEOPLE.
OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE JUDGE? OKAY, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
THESE TO GO? YEAH, DONUT THE WAY OUT.
JUST CANCELED UP TOP THAT CALORIES THAT YOU BURNED UP.
I JUST, THE MEETING HAD ABOUT THREE ALREADY OUTTA THAT, THAT WE MOVE ON TO THE BREAK.
WELL WE DID, BUT WE WE DID THAT LEFT, JUDGE.
SO LAURA, YOU'VE GOT, UH, QUITE A BIT OF TIME HERE AND UH, I GUESS LET'S, THEY WERE IN ORDER AND THAT IS THE COUNTY CLERK GENERAL, UH, BUDGET.
SO, UH, YOU'RE, I BELIEVE YOU WANT JUST KIND OF GO THROUGH YOUR BUDGET BECAUSE YOU ARE ASKING FOR A COUPLE OF YOU PEOPLE, I BELIEVE AND PUT IN PART TWO FOR COLLECTIONS, BUT THAT COULD BE COLLECTIONS SLASH COURTS.
AND I, YOU KNOW, KIND OF WENT, THERE'S SOME JUSTIFICATIONS ON THE OTHER PAGE, BUT I, WHEN YOU SIT THERE AND YOU BREAK IT DOWN, I HAVE ONE OF MY COURT STAFF, I HAVE 9, 8, 9 COURT STAFF.
ONE OF THEM HAS CANCER, ONE OF THEM HAS BEEN, UH, BEEN NASTY.
ANOTHER ONE HAS A GRANDDAUGHTER WITH LEUKEMIA.
SHE'S ON FAMILY MEDICAL LEAVE ACT TWO, RETIRING IN THE NEXT TWO YEARS.
AND IT'S KIND OF, UM, WE, WE TALKED TO JUDGE ADAMS ABOUT TAKING ON HIS COLLECTIONS FROM HIS OFFICE AND I'M NOT, I'M NOT CLEAR WHETHER OR NOT WE ARE GONNA DO THAT OR NOT BECAUSE AFTER TALKING TO HIS CLERK YESTERDAY, THEIR PROCESS DOES NOT MESH WITH OUR PROCESS AND THEY'LL HAVE TO MODIFY THEIR PROCESS TO MEET WHAT WE BELIEVE ARE THE GUIDELINES FOR THE OCA.
BUT, UM, RIGHT NOW THE, WE TOOK ELECTION OVER IN 2011 WITH NO ADDITIONAL COURT STAFF.
THERE WERE FOUR PEOPLE THAT WERE BUDGETED FOR THAT OFFICE.
I THINK IN 2012, 13, WE HAD, WE WERE GIVEN HALF OF THE PART-TIME PERSON FOR COLLECTIONS AND THEN THE NEXT YEAR WE WERE GIVEN A FULL-TIME PERSON FOR THAT COLLECTION.
SO THE COURT IS TECHNICALLY STAFF ONE PERSON FOR COLLECTIONS.
THE REST OF MY COURT STAFF ARE, ARE TAKING THE PAYMENTS, TAKING THE PHONE CALLS, THINGS LIKE THAT.
BUT AT THIS MOMENT, WITH ALL THAT'S GOING ON, I NEED ALL HANDS ON DECK TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE DOING COURTS, BUT I DON'T WANT COLLECTIONS TO FALL.
SO I'M JUST ASKING TO CONSIDER ADDING TWO TO
I HAVE THE DATA FROM SURROUNDING COUNTIES THAT HAVE A COLLECTIONS DEPARTMENT THAT MAP OUR, OUR POPULATION.
AND YOU KNOW, IF YOU JUST LOOK THROUGH IT, SORRY, MY, MY VOICE JUST, BUT, UM, ROCKWELL HAS STAFF, THREE PEOPLE.
ANGELINA COUNTY AND 86 HAS TWO.
BOULDER COUNTY, 92 HAS THREE, UH, HAS 10.
SO, YOU KNOW, IF AN IMPORTANT FUNCTION IS MANDATED BY THE STATE, AND I'M AT THE POINT I COVER COURTS IF JUDGE JONES, NOT JUDGE JONES, BUT JUDGE ADAMS DOES NOT MOVE.
UH, HIS COLLECTIONS HERE IS AND AND HE'S, HE, HE COORDINATES DIRECTLY WITH OCA.
IS THAT, AND THERE HAD BEEN SOME DISCUSSION EVIDENTLY THAT HE WAS THINKING ABOUT MOVING IT HERE, BUT THE LATEST INFORMATION YOU HEARD IS THAT THAT MAY NOT HAPPEN.
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BE COMING IN LATER ON PROCESS.SO IF HE DOES NOT MOVE, WOULD YOU STILL NEED THE TWO OR WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO GET BY WITH ONE? I WOULD LIKE TO DO ONE.
AND THAT ONE WOULD BE PAID FOR OUT OF THE GENERAL FRONT? YES.
I HAVE, UM, THREE OR FOUR RIGHT NOW THAT I COVER RECORDS MANAGEMENT AND I REALLY DON'T WANT TAKE ANYMORE.
AND YOU HAVE SPACE FOR THIS ADDITIONAL ONE.
AND THE OTHER INCREASE ON THIS ONE IS JUST INDEX REPORTING AND, AND THAT BASICALLY, I, I BELIEVE MOST AS THE DOCUMENTS GET FILED IN OUR OFFICE, WE SEND THEM OUT TO GET INDEXED AND AS THE RECORDINGS INCREASE, WHICH IS A GOOD THING IN THE COUNTY, SO DOES THE COST OF INDEXING.
AND I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE ENOUGH MONEY.
I THINK THAT RIGHT NOW WE'RE ESTIMATED AT 75,000.
I MEAN WE HAVE A BUDGET OF 75,000 AND WE MAY SPEND 77 THIS YEAR BECAUSE THERE'S BEEN A NICE INCREASE, UM, IN THE NUMBER OF RECORDINGS.
THEY'RE BACK UP TO THE LEVEL THOUSAND EIGHT, WHICH IS GOOD BECAUSE THEY DROPPED SUBSTANTIALLY AND THEY'VE SLOWLY BEEN WORKING WAY BACK UP.
THE GENERAL FUND OFFICER? YES.
THAT HAS TO BE PAID BY STATUTE BECAUSE OF THE GENERAL FUND OVER SEVERAL YEARS THAT WE COVERED IT WHEN THE MONEY WE, WE DIDN'T TAKE IT OUTTA THE RECORDS MANAGEMENT, JUST, JUST SO, SO DON'T HAVE A GOOD UNDERSTANDING THE, YOU GUYS GET THE CASES FROM THE JP COURTS THAT OTHER THAN JUDGE UH, ADAM AND THEN OTHER THREE, YOU GET 'EM FROM THE OTHER THREE AND THEN, UH, YOU WORK ON 'EM FOR 60 DAYS TRYING TO GET THEM IN AND THEN THEY'RE TURNED OVER TO THE NEW, UH, LAW FIRM THAT WE FIRED YOU.
THEY BEEN WITH US SEVERAL MONTHS NOW.
I GUESS THE, THE PROCESS FOR THE JPS, WE, WE'LL DO THE APPLICATION AND, AND SET THE DEFENDANT AND THEN WE'LL WORK IT UNTIL THEY'RE 60 DAYS TO LENGTH.
AND AT THAT POINT THE JPS HAVE ASKED US TO GO AHEAD AND SEND THOSE CASES BACK TO THEM.
SOME OF THEM WILL DO A SHOW CAUSE HEARING WITH THOSE DEFENDANT AND THEN IF THEY DON'T, DON'T SHOW UP, THEN THEY'LL SEND THEM TO THEIR OUTSIDE COLLECTION.
IF THEY SHOW UP, A LOT OF 'EM WILL GO AHEAD AND SAY, ALRIGHT, YOU KNOW, YOU NEED TO PAY THIS NOW.
SO IT DEPENDED ON, ON THE JP THEY, BUT I BELIEVE MOST OF THEM DO A SHOW CAUSE HEARING.
AND OCA THAT'S KIND OF THE PROCEDURE THEY WANT US TO FOLLOW OR THE OCA BASICALLY SAYS ANYTHING OVERDUE 60 DAYS HAS TO BE, YOU KNOW, UH, SENT TO, THEY DON'T SAY AN OUTSIDE COLLECTION, THEY JUST SAY THAT THE COUNTY HAS TO DO SOMETHING TO CONTINUE TO COLLECTION ON THAT ONE OFFICER FROM TURNING IT OVER FOR ON DAY ONE.
YOU, YOU CAN, I MEAN YOU CAN'T, I MEAN YOU HAVE TO WORK IT FOR 60 DAYS.
BUT, BUT AT THE END OF THAT 60 DAYS YOU SEND IT AFTER THE FEES AND THEN THEY GO YES.
AND THEN THEY TRY AND THEN IF THEY'RE UNSUCCESSFUL, THEY SEND IT TO THE ATTORNEYS.
I BELIEVE THEY ALSO PUT A WARRANT OUT OF KPS PRO WARRANT AND THEN THEY SEND IT TO THEIR OUTSIDE COLLECTIONS.
AND ACCORDING TO OUR COLLECTIONS, SINCE WE'RE DOING THAT WITH THE NEW FIRM, THAT SEEMS TO BE WORKING PRETTY WELL.
DO DO WE, DO WE HAVE TO DO ANYTHING IN THAT 60 DAYS OR COULD WE JUST, WE COULD JUST SIT THERE IN THE POCKET AFTER, AT THE END OF 60 DAYS WE CAN TECHNICALLY PUT A WARRANT OUT FOR THEIR ARREST.
SO IF WE JUST TOOK THE FILE AWAY AND TOLD IT AT THE END OF 60 DAYS, IF THEY DON'T COME, IN OTHER WORDS WE SENT 'EM A LETTER AND THEY DON'T COME, THEN WE CAN ISSUE A WARRANT.
YES, WE WOULD LOSE THAT, THAT MONEY BECAUSE OF THE LAW FIRMS WILL GET THE PERCENTAGE.
AND THEY, YEAH, THEY TAX ON WILL BE LOT OF THESE ARE SOLID.
I GOT COPIES OF ALL THE JPS THAT FELONY WARRANTS OR I MEAN ATIONS ISSUED AND HOW MANY GO REFER BACK FROM LARGE OFFICE BACK COLLECT.
DO YOU HAVE A THING ON SAYING HOW MUCH AVERAGE ON WE COLLECT THAT WE DON'T ON IN IN IN THE THREE THAT YOU DO IN THE 60 DAYS WHEN YOU HAVE IT? WE DO.
WE, WE DO THE DISTRICT COURT, THE TWO COUNTY COURT LAWS AND THE THREE JPS AND EVERY MONTH WE HAVE TO SEND A REPORT TO THE OFFICE OF COURT ADMINISTRATION AND BASICALLY IT TELLS YOU THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT WAS ASSESSED, THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT WAS COLLECTED, THE
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AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT WAS WAIVED, THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT WAS GIVEN IN JAIL CREDIT, AND THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT WAS DECLARED AS INDIGENCY AND THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT WAS GIVEN AS COMMUNITY SERVICE.AND THEN, YOU KNOW, WE, WE HAVE TO SUBMIT THAT EVERY YEAR FOR EVERY OFFICE.
AND SO WE DON'T, WE DON'T, WE HAVE THAT GRAFT ALSO.
BUT I DON'T, I BRING THAT YOU'VE SEEN THAT GRANT AHEAD THERE.
YOU'VE SEEN PROBABLY COUNTY IN 2003, I'M SORRY, IN 2013 WE BROUGHT, UH, THE OFFICE OF COURT ADMINISTRATION SENT US A, LIKE A FIVE YEAR SPAN AND SAID THIS IS THE AMOUNT ASSESSED, THE AMOUNT COLLECTED AND THE AMOUNT OF COMMUNITY SERVICE GIVEN VERSUS INDIGENCY AND THE AMOUNT WEIGH, AND I KNOW THEY IS, WE CAN'T EVEN ISSUE A WARRANT FOR THEM NECESSARILY EITHER.
WELL THE WHAT WHAT THEY'VE SAID IN THE PROCESS THAT WE'VE HAD TO CHANGE IS WHEN WE ISSUE A K PROFI BEFORE THEY WOULD SIT IN JAIL, NOW THE, THE STATUTE'S WRITTEN SUCH THAT WHEN THEY'RE ARRESTED ON K PROPHY, THEY HAVE TO BE BROUGHT BACK BEFORE THE JUDGE AND THE JUDGE HAS TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE NOT INDIGENT AND HAVE THE ABILITY TO PAY.
AND IF THEY HAVE THE, IF THEY DON'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO PAY AND THEY HAVE THE ABILITY TO WORK, THEN WE ARE SUPPOSED TO PROVIDE THEM WITH COMMUNITY SERVICE, WHICH IS ANOTHER ASPECT COLLECTIONS THAT WE HAVEN'T HAD TO DEAL WITH IN THIS COUNTY.
BUT OCA IS VERY AWARE OF IT BECAUSE WITH THE MONTHLY REPORTS AND THEY DRAFT THAT THEY, THEY LOOK BACK AND SAY, WELL, YOU KNOW, YOU, YOU'RE NOT OFFERING COMMUNITY SERVICE.
AND IT'S LIKE, WELL OUR GUYS SIT IN JAIL AS LONG AS THE, I I THINK IT'S WORKING BETTER THAN IT HAS WORKED.
WELL I THINK OUR ONLY SNAP BOOT WAS WHEN JP ONE, WHEN JOHNNY PERRY, WHEN HE LOST HIS PART-TIME PERSON, HE WAS DOING COLLECTIONS.
THAT WAS THE 2013 HICCUP WHEN JP ONE DIDN'T PASS THE AUDIT.
BUT ONCE MARY GOT INTO OFFICE, SHE SAID, NO, I'M SENDING EVERYTHING OVER, WE'RE NOT WORKING HERE.
WELL, THEY KIND OF DIDN'T DO IT EITHER.
THEY JUST LET YOU HAVE IT FOR 60 DAYS AND THEN TURN IT OVER TO LAW FIRM.
LET THEM, I MEAN BASICALLY WHAT THEY OKAY.
UM, THAT'S WHY I ASKED COLLECTIONS IS IS REAL.
IT IT'S REALLY COMPLICATED AND YOU DEFINITELY WORK WITH ALL THE COURTS.
THEY'RE IN THERE WHEN THE JAIL CHAIN PEOPLE ARE IN THERE.
UM, WE DEAL WITH ALL THE PEOPLE WHO GET OUT OF PAROLE.
THEY HAVE TO COME AND SEE US AND, AND SET UP A PAYMENT PLAN.
AND THAT'S NOT REALLY, UM, ADDRESSED IN THE GUIDELINES FOR OCA, BUT IT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT PEOPLE WHO GO TO PRISON OWN VERY LARGE FINES.
SO IT'S SOMETHING WE DEFINITELY WANT TO DEAL WITH AND AND HANDLE, BUT IT, AGAIN, IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT'S, THEY'RE NOT GONNA COME AND AUDIT US WHETHER OR NOT WE DEAL WITH THE PEOPLE ON PAROLE AND FOLLOW UP WITH THEM AND WORK WITH THEM.
ONE OTHER QUESTION FOR YOU, MOVE ON AND DECIDE ABOUT ONE OR TWO EXTRA PEOPLE.
IS THE, UH, LAW THING WITH THE TAX OFFICE, ARE THEY DOING A LOCAL SC LAW THING WITH YOU WHERE SOMEBODY COMES IN TO REGISTER THEIR VEHICLE AND THEY SEE THAT THEY'LL FIND THE COUNTY THAT THEY SEND THEM OVER TO YOU? SO THEY HAVE TO ARRANGEMENTS? WHO, WHO I I'M NOT SURE WHO YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.
WELL THE, UH, WELL THE, THE TAX OFFICE HAS THE ABILITY, I THINK LOCALLY THEY MAY NOT DO IT ON STATEWIDE OR, YOU KNOW, MAY NOT DO IT STATEWIDE, BUT, AND I MAY BE WRONG WITH THIS, BUT MY UNDERSTANDING, THEY HAVE THE ABILITY TO LOOK AT WHAT IF SOMEBODY COMES TO REGISTER AND THEY OWE THE COUNTY, YOU KNOW, SEVERAL HUNDRED DOLLARS AND BACK FINES AND OR FEES.
THEY DO NOT HAVE TO REGISTER THE VEHICLE UNLESS THEY'VE MADE ARRANGEMENTS WITH THE COLLECTIONS DEPARTMENT TO PAY, UH, PAY THE FINE OR SET UP A, YOU KNOW, THEY MAY BE ABLE TO GET THEIR LICENSE BUT HAVE TO PAY, YOU KNOW, PAID TOWARDS YOUR FINE.
SO I DID THAT IS NOT OCCURRING.
THEN THAT DAY WE WENT BEFORE COMMISSIONER'S COURT AND ASKED IF THEY WOULD SIGN THE STATE CONTRACT TO ALLOW YEAH, I REMEMBER THAT.
BUT FROM ON, ON ANOTHER BASIS WHEN WE TALKED TO TANYA AND SAID, UM, THE TAX ASSESSOR AND SAID IF WE DIDN'T DO IT THROUGH THE STATE, THEN THE ONLY OPTION WOULD BE IS THEY WOULD HAVE OBVIOUSLY TERMINALS SET UP THERE, THEY COULD VERIFY WHETHER OR NOT THEY WERE DELINQUENT AND FINDING COURT COSTS, BUT THAT NEVER DID NO.
WAS NOT INTERESTED IN PURSUING THAT OPTION.
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TO HER, I THINK, TO DO THAT.SO ANYTHING ELSE? UH, THAT BEFORE, UH, I, I MEAN I'D LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND LINE THIS UP.
ON THE FIRST PART OF GENERAL BUDGET, UH, SHE IS ASKED FOR, UH, TWO ADDITIONAL PEOPLE AND THEN INDEXING AND REPORTING, UH, YOU'RE ASKING FOR, UH, AN 8,000 INCREASE THAT, THAT MONEY, WHEN YOU INCREASE LAND RECORD FILING, YOU GET THAT MONEY INTO THE GENERAL FUND.
SO IT'S, IT'S A, IT'S LIKE A 90 10, LIKE A PAY THROUGH YEAH.
YOU GET 90% OF THE MONEY AND 10% GOES FOR INDEXING.
SO YOU NEVER PAY MORE IN INDEXING THAN YOU RECEIVE IF IF IF RECORDING SPELLED A ZERO YOU WOULD HAVE ZERO.
AND, BUT CALLS INCREASED PROPERTY THINGS GOING ON.
THAT, THAT'S THE REASON FOR THAT.
SO THE REAL QUESTION IS, I GUESS IS, UH, THE REQUEST FOR, UH, TWO PEOPLE AND, UH, FOR COLLECTIONS.
AND SO GENTLEMEN, I GUESS THAT'S WHAT WE UH, HEARD.
SO WHAT'S YOUR, WHAT'S YOUR PLEASURE IN THAT REGARD? WELL, I SPOKE TO JOHNNY YESTERDAY AND THEY'RE GONNA KEEP THEIR COLLECTIONS.
I, I TALKED TO LEONE YESTERDAY AND WHEN I TOLD HER THAT THEY COULDN'T DO BUSINESS THE SAME WAY, SO, AND I ASKED A WHILE AGO, IS THAT GOING TO HAMSTRING YOU TOO MUCH? ONE ADDITIONAL PERSON.
OKAY, SO ONE, I'M, LET'S SEE WHERE TAX VALUES ARE GONNA BE.
I'M GONNA GO AHEAD AND PUT DOWN ONE, AT LEAST ONE POSSIBLE.
THEN WE CAN COME BACK AND SEE WHAT, KAREN, DID YOU GET THAT? WE'LL PUT DOWN ONE ADDITIONAL PERSONAL YEAH, IT'S THAT BASE LEVEL ENTRY, LAURA, SO I KNOW THE AMOUNT TO PUT IN.
CAN YOU TELL ME WHAT BASE LEVEL ENTRY IS? I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANYTHING UNIFORM.
NO, THERE'S NOT ANYTHING UNIFORM.
NO, THEY JUST CAN'T HIRE LESS THAN 26.
9 6 26 6 HIGHER, LESS THAN THAT.
THEY CAN HIRE WHATEVER IS IN THE BUDGET.
SAVE 30,000 PLUS YOU HAVE INSURANCE ON TOP OF THE AVERAGE 30, 30 GRAND.
I WOULD SAY COLLECTIONS IS A VERY DIFFICULT FUNCTION TO DO DAY IN AND DAY OUT.
WHAT DO, WHAT DO YOU I WOULD RATHER DO THE 30 THAT KEEPS THEM, EVEN PEOPLE WHO ARE IN COLLECTIONS NOW.
AND THEN ON TOP OF THAT YOU CAN, UH, INSURANCE AND RETIREMENT, SOCIAL SECURITY, ALL THAT, THAT GETS UP TO ABOUT 31 5 SOMETHING WELL CLOSER.
SO I MEAN IT'S 41 40 IT BE NICE.
SO ANYWAY, WE WILL BUDGET FOR ONE RIGHT NOW AT 30, UH, AT 30,000.
AND THEN, UH, WHEN WE GET OUR VALUES IN AND WE KIND OF SEE WHERE WE ARE MONEYWISE, WE'LL COME BACK AND RE-LOOK AT THE OTHER ONE.
AND THEN THE OTHER THING, WE WILL GO AHEAD AND INCREASE THE, UH, INDEXING AND RECORDING TO 8,000.
NOW THAT'S, THAT'S THE PLANS, YOU KNOW, THAT WE'RE NOT MAKING ANY DECISIONS, WE'RE JUST KIND OF IT THE NUMBERS WE'RE PUTTING IN.
UM, BEFORE WE MOVED ON, I DID WANT TO TALK TO THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT ABOUT, YOU KNOW, IN 125,000 THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT IS REQUIRED TO VIDEOTAPE AND PUT ON THE INTERNET THERE, COMMISSIONER'S COURT LIVE, LIVE.
WELL, IT DOESN'T SEEM LIVE, YOU JUST HAVE TO HAVE IT ON THE WEBSITE WITHIN A CERTAIN PERIOD OF TIME.
AND GEORGIA AND I HAVE LOOKED AT SEVERAL OPTIONS THAT OTHER COUNTIES HAVE AND THE, THE CAMERA SYSTEM IS NOT THAT EXPENSIVE, BUT THEY HAVE SOFTWARE THAT YOU CAN DO.
I THINK ONE OF GEORGIA'S PICK IS YOU CAN DO A HUNDRED NINETY NINE, TWO HUNDRED NINETY NINE, THREE HUNDRED NINETY NINE PER MONTH AND IT WILL AUTOMATE THE STREAMLINING FROM THE AGENDA CREATION, ALL THE, THE, UH, ASSOCIATED PAPERWORKS TO THE MINUTES.
AND THEN YOU CAN TAB ON THE MINUTES AND GO STRAIGHT TO THAT SECTION OF THE VIDEO.
GEORGE WAS THE ONE THAT THAT SAID, YOU KNOW, LOOK AT THIS, IT'S CALLED AB CAPTURE.
UM, I DON'T THINK THAT IT CAN BE COVERED UNDER RECORDS MANAGEMENT, BUT IT'S SOMETHING THAT I THINK THE COURT REALLY NEEDS TO LOOK AT.
IT'S DEFINITELY A BETTER PRODUCT.
AND WE'VE DONE THE FILMING OF IT SINCE 2003, BUT IT'S,
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IT'S ALL IT IS IS FILM AND, AND THIS, IT COST US TO PUT IT ON THE INTERNET.WE DO THIS TIME, THE TIME, JUST THE TIME IN THE RIGHT.
BUT YOU'RE NOT ABLE TO, YOU KNOW, WITH AB CAPTURE, THE, AND WE CAN BRING IN DEMONSTRATIONS OF IT, BUT IT BASICALLY, YOU PULL UP THIS SCREEN, IT'S GOT THE VIDEO RUNNING HERE, IT'S GOT THE MINUTES OR THE AGENDA OVER HERE, AND THEN YOU CAN SAY, WELL, I JUST WANT TO SEE THIS SECTION OF IT TO THE WHOLE THING.
YOU CAN LOOK AT THE WHOLE THING AND DO IT.
AND ANY ASSOCIATED DOCUMENTS, THEY HAVE AN EXHIBIT I LOOKED AT AT ONE OF THE MEETINGS, YOU KNOW, WE WERE AT, SO I KNOW MY CHURCH HAS GONE TO CALLED LIVESTREAM VIDEO.
AND UH, IT'S, IT BROADCASTS THE CHURCH SERVICE, UH, LIVE MM-HMM
AND WE DID LOOK AT ONE OF THOSE PRODUCTION COMPANIES YEAH.
BECAUSE ELLIS COUNTY USES IT AND THEY BASICALLY WILL GO FROM THE, YOU KNOW, THEY LIVESTREAM IT, THEY ALSO TAG IT SO THAT YOU CAN COME IN LATER AND TIE THE MINUTES TO IT AND THEY DO THE FULL BLOWN PRODUCTION.
BUT THAT GETS DEFINITELY MORE PRICEY.
NOW, UH, THE GAVE CAPTURE DOES DO THE LIVE STREAMING, BUT IT ALSO GIVES YOU THAT THAT PUTS EVERYTHING IN ONE NICE PACKAGE ON, ON THE SAME SCREEN.
400, I DON'T REMEMBER WHAT WE PAID FOR IT AT THE CHURCH, BUT IT WASN'T DISTRICT TERRIBLY EXPENSIVE, BUT I'M GONNA SAY LIKE $10,000 OR SOMETHING ONE TIME.
AND THEN OF COURSE YOU HAVE EXPENSES, YOU KNOW, TO UPDATE IT I GUESS AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF.
AND AND I THINK YOU ALWAYS PAY A MONTHLY.
I DON'T THINK SO, BUT I, I, YOU KNOW, I I DO KNOW THAT I DO KNOW THIS, THAT WHENEVER I DO THE SPECIAL MUSIC, I MEAN THE PEOPLE JUST TUNE IN, IT COULD GO DOWN.
THE ONE THING ABOUT 80 CAPTURES LIKE 199 VERSUS 2 99 VERSUS 3 99.
IT'S THE AMOUNT OF THE STORAGE SPACE AND THE LENGTH OF TIME.
I THINK THE 2 99 OR THE 3 99 GIVES YOU UNLIMITED AMOUNT OF MEANINGS AND THEY'RE STORED FOREVER.
THE ONE 90 NINE'S GONNA GIVE US 52 MEANINGS THEY STORE AND, AND WE STORE IT.
I MEAN THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS I NEED TO TALK TO GEORGE BECAUSE I NEED TO MAKE SURE LICENSE CASE, YOU KNOW, IF WE DECIDED AT SOME POINT NOT TO DO IT, WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO CAPTURE THAT INFORMATION AND HAVE IT OURSELVES.
WELL IT LOOK LIKE WE WOULD STORE IT ALL THE TIME OUT SALE.
BUT I, IT'S JUST SOMETHING I THINK THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT NEEDS TO LOOK AT IN THE FUTURE BECAUSE WE'RE, WE'LL REACH THAT NEXT CENSUS.
WELL, WE'RE ABOUT 114 NOW, SO, BUT UH, WHY DON'T YOU COME BACK WITH US A LITTLE BIT LATER ON AND LET'S LOOK AT THAT AND SEE WHAT, WE DON'T DO IT THIS YEAR, IT NOT BE SOMETHING WE DO THE FOLLOWING YEAR.
AND, AND I KNOW THE NEWSPAPER'S HITTING ME UP ALL THE TIME, LIKE, CAN YOU MAKE IT LIVE? AND I'M LIKE, YEAH, FOR A PRICE.
BUT THE NEWSPAPER WE'RE TAKING YEAH, YOU'D BE INTERESTED IN DOING THAT.
THEY WOULDN'T HAVE AN EXCUSE TO LEAVE THE OFFICE.
YOU CAN BUY A CAMERA THAT CATCHES ALL THE FIST TYPES.
ANY, ANY, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THE, UH, YOU, THEY BROUGHT, UH, REBECCA BROUGHT IN THAT ENGINEERING FIRM AND HE WENT OVER THE SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS, SORRY, CAN'T SPELL, BUT SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS.
AND I NEEDED TO KNOW, YOU KNOW, WHICH DIRECTION THE COURT'S LEANING ON THAT.
'CAUSE I KNOW FROM HIS PROPOSAL IT WAS TO GO AHEAD AND, AND YOU KNOW, UNIFY IT IN ONE PLACE TO MAKE SURE THAT THE INFORMATION IS GATHERED PAID FOR.
I'M WANTING TO DEFINITELY THINK IT NEEDS TO BE CLERK'S OFFICE.
YOU KNOW, I I JUST THINK THAT THAT, YOU KNOW, NOT YOU WOULDN'T, BUT I MEAN EVERY WHO THE CLERK IS AND WHATEVER, THEY JUST TAKE IT AND THEY WOULD GIVE, UH, SEND TO EVERY BRANCH THAT NEEDS IT BECAUSE IT'S JUST, WELL, AND IT'S IN THE PERMANENT RECORD, IT'S GONNA BE IN, SO MOST COUNTIES IT'S PROBABLY THERE ANYWAY AND EVERY OTHER DEPARTMENT THEY HAVE THEIR OWN JUST DON'T THIS.
I JUST THINK THAT THAT'S THE BEST PLACE TO HAVE IT.
YEAH, I SAID THAT LAST YEAR THOUGH.
YEAH, JUST PUT IT IN THE, I MEAN THEY'RE, THEY'RE NOT DOING ANYTHING EXCEPT STORING IT AND DISTRIBUTING IT TO THE PEOPLE THAT NEED TO BE DISTRIBUTED TO IT BECAUSE YOU SEND PART OF IT TO THE ENGINEERS, ALL THE PLANTS AND STUDIES, AND IF IT'S COMMERCIAL,
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YOU SEND THE PART TO THE FIRE MARSHAL, YOU SEND IT TO THE COMMISSIONER'S OFFICE SO THAT THEY KNOW WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THEIR AREA.VICE VERSA, ALL DISTRIBUTED DOESN'T MAKE SENSE.
AND THEN YOU HAVE A LIST OF CHECK IT OFF.
SO IF THEY DON'T HAVE THE RIGHT PACKET TO HAND IT BACK TO 'EM AND SAY BRING IT BACK WHEN IT'S COMPLETE.
I, I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH DOING THAT AT ALL.
I'D LIKE TO TAKE MO AND THEN SHE'S DONE ENOUGH TO COMMISSIONER COURT, SHE PUTS IT ALL ON THE, ON THE INTERNET.
WE HAVE SO MANY NEW
SO I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S ONE OF THOSE THAT I CAN CONSOLIDATE THAT INTO A, A FULL-TIME POSITION, YOU KNOW, JUST IF WE DECIDE TO DO THAT, CAN YOU, CAN IT CONSIDER, WE DON'T, WE DON'T GET NUMBERS IN THE CITY AND THE CITY DOESN'T TELL IN NO, YOU KNOW, AND THEY, THEY, THEY PRODUCE WATERSHED ISSUES BY THAT, THAT WE'RE NOT AWARE OF THAT ARE COMING UP.
WE DON'T DEAL WITH THEM THIS YEAR.
HAVE WE GONNA BE IN THE COUNTY? HOW MANY SUB DIVISION CLASS HAVE WE DONE? YOU KNOW, WHEN I ASKED MONIQUE THE OTHER DAY, WE HAD LIKE 12 OF 'EM COME IN IN THE LAST SIX, EIGHT WEEKS.
THEY'RE JUST, THEY'RE COMING IN AND, AND IT'S, IT'S ONE OF THE, IT'S A VERY LONG PROCESS TO GET A SUBDIVISION PLAQUE DONE AND ON THE SYSTEM SENT OUT TO GET PUT INTO MY, I THINK THAT IT CAN, IT CAN DEFINITELY GROW INTO A POSITION AND IF YOU DECIDE TO DO THAT, PLEASE CONSIDER AT LEAST GIVING ME A PART-TIME PERSON.
I AGREE THAT WE CAN COVER THAT.
I'M NOT ARGUING THIS THING AT ALL BECAUSE WE WE'RE LOSING TIME BASED MONEY AND EVERYTHING ELSE AND HE SPENT IN ON WHAT HE'S GOTTA DO.
AND I THINK THAT FOLLOWING UP AND MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE GETTING ALL OUR ENGINEERING MONEY SEEMS TO BE ONE OF HIS BIG, THE ENGINEERING FOR US.
THAT YOU'RE NOT, YOU'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT GETTING THE MONEY FOR THE REVISIONS.
AND WHILE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS BEFORE WE MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ONE, WHAT, UH, THE SECOND PERSON YOU WERE REQUESTING IN COLLECTIONS, COULD THAT POSITION BE MADE? PARTTIME PERSON WITH THIS.
SO THAT MIGHT BE, THAT MIGHT BE THEY DUTIES DUTY BECAUSE I COULD PUT SOMEBODY UP FRONT AND WHAT I WOULD DO IS BE PULL, PULL MONIQUE INTO THAT AREA BY MY OFFICE AND SHE CAN ALSO DO THE LASER FISH.
THAT'S TO UPGRADE LASER FISH AND BE THAT EVERYBODY, THAT'S HOW KAREN DID YOU, WERE YOU IN ON THAT CONVERSATION? I'M LISTENING.
YOU JUST NEED TO TELL ME HOW MUCH.
WELL, I WOULD SUPPOSE ABOUT LIKE THE OTHER POSITION WAS THE SECOND, THE ONE WE JUST ADDED.
THIS ONE WOULD BE HALFTIME COLLECTIONS AND HALFTIME, UH, WHATEVER YOU GONNA CALL IT, THE COMMISSION LIAISON POSITION.
SHE MIGHT TAKE SOMEBODY MORE, PUT THEM IN THAT POSITION.
NOT DESIGNATED THAT SALARY FOR THAT POSITION.
SO TWO STAFF AT THE 30 YEAR, ONE AND A HALF FOR COLLECTIONS AND THE OTHER HALF ARE YEAH, IT'S NOT GOING TO DISTINGUISH BETWEEN IT.
THEY'RE JUST GONNA BE A FULL TIME EMPLOYEE.
AND THAT GIVES HER THE FLEXIBILITY.
AND I, I THINK IT, WE'VE HAD 12 COMING IN THE LAST WE'VE HAD, WE'VE HAD SO MANY AND I I KNOW I'VE PULLED OUT FOUR OF THEM FOR EVERYTHING TOO.
WELL YOU HAVE ANOTHER ONE COMING RIGHT NOW.
AND I THINK HE FILLING THAT ONE DOWN.
I MEAN ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT WE, WE PROBABLY NEED TO BETTER LIAISON IS WITH THE DALLAS.
WE GOTTA FIGURE OUT, WE GOTTA FIGURE THAT OUT.
WORK WITH DALLAS AND METE, WE'RE GETTING A WHOLE LOT MORE THAN WE'VE EVER BEEN IN BEFORE AND, AND WE'RE NOT GETTING ALL OF THE ONES THAT COME IN FROM THE EJS OF DALLAS THAT WE NEED TO HAVE HERE.
PEOPLE ARE BUYING THE PROPERTY AND THEY WANT TO COME IN AND I DON'T DO THE CITIES NOTIFY THE COUNTY WHEN THEY DO E TJ WHEN THEY DO, WHEN THEY EXPAND EJ, THEY, YEAH, THEY DO.
DOESN'T IT GO THROUGH THE ELECTION PROCESS? THEY WHERE THE CITY HAS TO, I MEAN THE CITY HAS TO GO THROUGH THE PROCESS OF YEAH.
I DON'T THINK IT'S A COLLECTION YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT WHEN THEY ANNEX SOMETHING IN, THEY NOTIFY US UP THERE.
NO, BECAUSE THAT'S, THAT'S UM, THOSE HUGE LAWSUITS
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THAT HAPPENED LIKE BETWEEN DALLAS AND HEATH AND YEAH.I THINK, I THINK GAGE GAGE IS TRYING TO KEEP UP WITH IT, BUT I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE COMMUNICATION ISSUE.
GLAD I KNOW THAT I FIND OUT ABOUT IT WHEN I READ ABOUT IT IN THE LOCAL PAPER.
YOU KNOW, ORMAN, IT MIGHT BE GOOD THING THE BUS.
I KNOW THEY THEN THEY JUST SAY, WELL WE WILLING A FAVOR, BUT I, I WOULD LIKE TO JUST MAKE THAT A COMMISSIONER'S COURT LIAISON PERSON, WHETHER IT'S WITH LASER FISH, THE VIDEOS, THE SUBDIVISION STUFF, AND WE'LL WORK ON KIND OF OPENING THOSE DOORS TO GET OUR STUFF FROM DALLAS, MAKE SURE IT'S BEING RECORDED AND PASSED OUT.
I, AND I THINK THE OTHER ONES, UM, WE CAN GO REALLY FAST.
RECORDS ARCHIVE ON FUND ONE 13 THAT WE HAVE THAT BASICALLY THE MONEY COMES IN THEN WE'RE LOOKING AT APPROXIMATELY 416,000.
AND WHAT I DO IS JUST PUT, UH, REVENUE DOWN ON THAT.
I, I THINK THAT I TALKED TO KW ABOUT CHANGING.
RIGHT NOW WE HAVE A FUND, 32 28, IT'S RECORD AND BOOK PRESERVATION AND THEN WE HAVE ONE FOR IMAGING.
AND I WOULD ALMOST PROPOSE AND TALK TO KW ABOUT JUST GO AHEAD AND COMBINING THOSE.
I MEAN YOU PRESERVE THE BOOK, YOU IMAGE THE BOOK AND, AND AND SEPARATING THOSE TWO JUST MAKES IT LEVEL MORE D YEAH.
A W THAT SOUND LIKE SOMETHING THAT YEAH, REMEMBER WE WERE TALKING ABOUT, WHICH, YOU KNOW, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT A 3 4, 1 4 AND 20, 32 28.
JUST COMBINING THOSE INTO BOOKING PRESERVATION.
PRESERVATION ONE LETS ACCOUNT TO HAVE, I KNOW YOU'VE GOT THIS MASSIVE PROJECT GOING ON NOW, SO YOU'RE SPENDING QUITE A BIT OF THIS.
YEAH, WE'LL SPEND THE PROPOSED MONEY BY SEPTEMBER 30TH.
UM, AND I, I ON ALLEGED FUND ONE 13.
ANYBODY GOT ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT? OKAY.
THE ONLY THING I'M ASKING FOR IS A, A JURY LAPTOP.
WELL WE HAVE A LOT OF TIMES NOW THE, WE HAVE THE TWO COURTS, ALL THE JURIES ON THE SAME DAY AND WE HAVE ONE LAPTOP.
THIS THE BARCODE SCANNER AND THE PRINTER.
WE'RE JUST ASKING FOR A SECOND ONE OUT OF THAT NEW EQUIPMENT, THAT THOUSAND DOLLARS.
IS EVERYBODY ALRIGHT THEN? YEAH, EVERYBODY'S OKAY FOR THAT.
I DIDN'T KNOW YOU GET THAT KAREN, YOU'RE FAR OFF.
IT'S HARD FOR ME TO THEN THE, UH, PROBATE LCY BUDGET, WE JUST INCREASED THE GUARDIAN BACKGROUND SEARCH BASED ON THE LEGISLATION THAT WE HAVE TO DO BACKGROUND CHECKS ON GUARDIANSHIP APPOINTMENTS.
AND THAT'S, THAT'S NOT BEEN, WE'VE NEVER HAD THAT REQUIREMENT UNTIL THIS YEAR.
SO THAT'S WHY WE HADN'T SEEN THAT LINE ITEM.
AND THEN THAT'S MONEY IN AND THEN MONEY RIGHT BACK OUT HAVE TO PAY FOR A WASH.
AND THEN THE RECORDS MANAGEMENT FROM 42 40, SAME AS ONE 13.
AND THERE'S, YOU KNOW, THE, THE MONEY THAT'S COMING IN WITH ESTIMATED AT 4 89 IS THE MONEY THAT'S BUDGETED TO TAKE OUTTA THERE.
SO ONE THING I, AND YOU CAN SEE THERE WERE UNDER THE IMAGING, I I TOOK THE, TOOK IT DOWN TO ZERO AND PUT THAT INTO THE BOOK PRESERVATION.
THAT'S KW AND I TALKED ABOUT IT.
LIKE I SAID, IT'S, IT'S JUST, IT'S REDUNDANT.
BUT I DID ASK FOR THE COMMISSIONERS TO CONSIDER TAKING AT ONE POINT, LIKE I SAID, THIS IS, I I'VE TRIED TO BE, YOU KNOW, AS GENEROUS AS I CAN WITH FUND 42 AND ACCOUNTING DIDN'T HAVE MONEY.
AND IS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I'VE ASSUMED FOR SEVERAL YEARS IS, IS UH, WE PURCHASED THE LAND RECORD SYSTEM USING THE MONEY FROM THIS.
I PAID FOR THE MAINTENANCE FOR THAT SOFTWARE FOR YEARS AND
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YEARS.WE PURCHASED ALL THE EQUIPMENT THAT IS USED BY THE OFFICE OUT OF THIS FUND.
WHETHER IT WAS WHEN WE BOUGHT THE CASE MANAGEMENT SYSTEM OR THE LAND RECORDS SYSTEM, WE'VE DONE SEVERAL UPGRADES OUT OF IT.
BUT I'D LIKE TO, YOU KNOW, THE THRUST LAST YEAR WAS TO BRING ALL OF THE COMPUTER COSTS IN ONE BUDGET SO THAT THE COMMISSIONERS KNOW EXACTLY WHAT IT COSTS TO RUN THE COUNTY.
AND I HAD UM, 50, I THINK IT'S AND 51,000 THAT RIGHT NOW WE PAY FOR OUT OF SOFTWARE 45 0 2 THAT'S DIRECTLY TIED TO THE TIMER EAGLE SYSTEM, THE MAINTENANCE AND SUPPORT, THE WEB HOSTING, THE DISASTER RECOVERY AND THE FRAUD GUARD THAT I WOULD LIKE Y'ALL TO CONSIDER TAKING OVER INTO THE IT BUDGET.
YOU KNOW, YOU PAY FOR THE, THE ELECTION SOFTWARE OUT OF THERE, THE TAX SOFTWARE, THE, THE SOFTWARE OR MAINTENANCE AND SUPPORT FOR THE TYLER EY CASE MANAGEMENT.
AND I JUST THINK THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT REALLY BELONGS.
SO YOU'RE SAYING THE SO IS 45 0 2 AND WHAT OTHER NUMBER? THAT'S IT.
YEAH, THERE'S, LIKE I SAID, THERE'S $51,300 THAT'S DIRECTLY TIED TO THE SOFTWARE WE USE FOR LAND RECORDS.
AND YOU'LL SEE WHEN YOU GET TO THE IT BUDGET, ALL THE OTHER SOFTWARE THAT'S PAID FOR OUT HIS, YEAH.
SO WOULD ANY OF THE REVENUE THAT YOU'RE GENERATING FOR THIS FOLLOW THAT REQUEST? UH, UH, FROM THE RECORD MANAGEMENT? NO, IT WOULD GO, IT WOULD FUND BACK INTO ATION.
SO THAT WOULD, THAT WOULD ACTUALLY GET THE GENERAL FUND 51,000.
IS IT LEGAL FOR YOU TO PAY THAT OUT OF THE UH, RECORD MANAGEMENT FUND? I MEAN I GUESS THEY'VE BEEN DOING, JOHN, JOHN DIDN'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH IT, BUT REBECCA KIND OF LOOKED AT ME AND SAID, I DON'T KNOW.
I DIDN'T PUSH IT WITH REBECCA.
YEAH, WE PROBABLY SHOULD CHECK REBECCA AND UH, AND WITH ED, KAREN, KAREN MIGHT, YEAH.
SEE I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, JOHN'S TAKE ON IT WAS, I DIDN'T HEAR WHAT HE SAID.
WHEN WE BOUGHT THE SYSTEM, I TALKED TO HIM ABOUT USING THIS FUND TO COVER IT AND, AND HE SAID, WELL, I MEAN DISASTER RECOVERY IS DEFINITELY PRESERVATION AND WHAT YOU DO WITH THE RECORDS IS PRESERVATION AND WITHOUT THE COMPUTERS IT'S AUTOMATION.
SO HIS TAKE ON IT WAS, YES, IT FALLS UNDER AUTOMATION AND PRESERVATION THAT COULD BE USED FOR FUND 42.
YEAH, BUT I'M SAYING WITH THE THRUST THAT THE COUNTY TOOK LAST YEAR BEFORE LAST, RATHER THAN HAVE SOFTWARE UNDER THE TAX OFFICE AND SOFTWARE UNDER THIS AND SOFTWARE UNDER THAT, YOU WERE PAYING ALL THE MAINTENANCE AND SUPPORT UNDER ONE BUCKET.
SO, YOU KNOW, K DAVID, I'D LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT, UM, GEORGE HAS ACTUALLY BEEN TRYING TO, HE GOT YESTERDAY, GEORGE HAS ACTUALLY BEEN TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE MAINTENANCE COSTS ARE, ARE TAKEN OUT OF THE SOFTWARE BUDGET.
UM, SO I, YOU MIGHT WANT TO TALK TO HIM 'CAUSE HE'S ACTUALLY KIND OF GOING AGAINST THAT WHOLE MAINTENANCE THING BEING PAID FOR OUT OF HIS SOFTWARE BUDGET.
UM, LIKE LAST YEAR THEY MOVED THE TAX ASSESSOR MAINTENANCE AND STUFF INTO THEIR, HER OWN GENERAL FUND BUDGET.
UM, TAKING IT OUT OF THAT SOFTWARE BUDGET AND STILL BEING PAID BACK BY A GENERAL FUND.
BUT HE HE DOESN'T WANT TO DO THAT.
NO, HE, HE, HE CAME AND MENTIONED IT TO, TO US, UM, A WEEK OR TWO AGO WHENEVER HE WAS LOOKING OVER HIS SOFTWARE BUDGET.
UM, THERE'S STUFF THAT THEY'RE ADDING TO IT, BUT THEY'RE ALSO, HE'S KIND OF AGAINST USING MAINTENANCE FOR THE SOFTWARE BECAUSE MAINTENANCE REALLY SHOULD BE PAID ACCORDING TO HIM, SHOULD BE BEING PAID OUT OF WHERE THE ORIGINAL SOFTWARE WAS PAID FOR IN THE FIRST PLACE.
HIS OPINION, I JUST WANTED TO POINT IT OUT.
WHAT, WHAT IS THE, UH, WHAT DO YOU ANTICIPATE THE FUND BALANCE AND THIS FUND 42 TO BE? I I KNOW IT'S ESTIMATED HERE, UH, FOUR $89.
NO, THAT IT'S 175 IS WHAT SHE'S ESTIMATING.
OKAY, SO THE 4 89 IS THE TOTAL OF ALL OF THE REVENUES AND THE FUND BALANCE.
OKAY, WELL LET'S CHECK ON THIS BEFORE WE MAKE A COMMITMENT ON THAT.
I MEAN, I'M JUST, I'M I'M NOT SAYING THAT I'M REFUSING TO PAY FOR IT, I'M JUST SAYING IF THE TRUST WAS TO PUT IT ALL IN ONE BUCKET SO YOU KNEW WHAT THE ACTUAL COST I MAKE SENSE TO US
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SEE THE WHOLE BUDGET FOR THE WHOLE PRICE OF THE COUNTY.I JUST LIKE FOR THE REVENUE TO FOLLOW UP, THAT'S, OH, I'M NOT, I'M JUST SAYING I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE CONCEPT.
IT'S JUST EVERYTHING THAT HITS THE DINNER FUND IS, YOU KNOW, WITHOUT REVENUE.
IT'S LITTLE, YOU KNOW, IS A CONCERN MANDATED.
AND THEN THE LAST ONE FUND 31, UH, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S MONEY AND THEN MONEY OUT.
YOU'RE ASKING FOR A LOT AGAIN.
THAT'S, UH, A THOUSAND BUCKS I THINK INCREASE THERE IS, WELL IT IS JUST, I I ALLOCATED THE REVENUE, YOU KNOW, THE, THE REVENUE AT 59 AND THEN JUST TOTAL ABOUT THE REVENUE, THE EXPENSES AT 59 ESTIMATED IN AMOUNT 600 ANATOMY 42 THERE.
MM-HMM
YEAH, THIS, UH, RECORDS MANAGEMENT AND RECORDS ARCHIVE IS PRETTY MUCH FUNDED DOWN THE LAND RECORDS AND THE, THE MORE THAT THE LAND RECORDS INCREASE, THE MORE IT'S INCREASE THERE.
ALRIGHT, WE HAVE OTHER QUESTIONS FOR ISSUES BEFORE WE MOVE ON.
I THINK RUN THROUGH PRETTY GOOD.
CLAYTON'S GONNA BE UP HERE AT, HE WAS, HE'S HAVE WALKED MINUTE AGO.
HE WAS OUTSIDE THE DOOR A MINUTE AGO.
JUDGE SMITH IS NOT GONNA BE HERE.
UH, YOU WANNA GIVE US MONEY BACK? IS MONEY BACK? ACTUALLY, I'M NOT LOOKING TO CHANGE ANYTHING.
I'M, I'M MORE CURIOUS ABOUT HOW THINGS ARE GONNA LOOK.
UH, I GUESS COMING UP AS FAR AS I GOT A COUPLE OF PROJECTS IN THE WORK I ABOUT AS FAR AS UH, GETTING SOME, SOME FUNDING FORWARD.
AND UH, THE ONLY THING RIGHT NOW THAT'S PRETTY QUICK IS I'M WORKING WITH, UH, THE AMERICAN LEGION HERE IN TOWN.
WE HAVE A, A VAN THAT HAS BEEN DONATED AND DRIVERS, UH, FROM THE AMERICAN THAT UH, HAVE STEPPED UP AND GONNA DO THE DRIVING TO SHUTTLE TO THE VA BACK AND FORTH.
AND I'M LOOKING FOR FUEL AND UH, RIGHT NOW WE'RE LOOKING PROBABLY ONE, UH, ONE OR TWO TRIPS A WEEK.
SO IT'S PROBABLY, YOU KNOW, I GOOD HOW MUCH, WE JUST DON'T HAVE EVERYTHING IRON OUT YET.
BUT I WANT TO TALK TO YOU GUYS FIRST BEFORE WE PROCEED A WHOLE LOT AND THEN COME BACK AND SAY, WELL WE, I, YOU KNOW, WE THINK GOT FUEL, WE GOTTA FIND FUEL SOMEWHERE ELSE.
YOU HAVE AN ESTIMATE ON WHAT KIND OF FUEL? I MEAN, JUST A BALLPARK FIGURE.
ABOUT 40, 40 MILES? YEAH, ABOUT 43 MILES.
AND UH, I'M NOT SURE, YOU KNOW, UH, THE VANS PRETTY NEW SO I OUGHT GET GAS MILES.
HOW MANY, HOW MANY TRIPS YOU GONNA MAKE AWARE OF? WELL WE'RE GONNA START OUT WITH PROBABLY TWO A WEEK.
UH, AND THEN SEE WHAT THE, BECAUSE I'M GUESSING ONCE IT CATCHES ON, THEN THERE'LL, THERE'LL BE MORE.
AND THIS WOULD BE TO THE VA? TO THE VA, YES SIR.
LET ME ASK YOU THIS, IS THERE A POSSIBILITY THAT THE STAR TRANSIT COULD PROVIDE THAT? WELL, I'VE MET WITH THEM.
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THEY, THEY DO SHOW VETERANS, BUT IT'S AT THE COST OF THE VETERAN WITH A DISCOUNT.UH, THEY DON'T HAVE A PARTICULAR ROUTE THAT THEY RUN, YOU KNOW, REGULAR ALL THE TIME.
WHEREAS THIS WOULD BE AVAILABLE, UH, YOU WOULD HOUSE IT AND YOU WOULD MANAGE IT.
THEY'RE JUST GONNA GIVE YOU A YES SIR.
WHO'S GONNA, I MEAN, WHO, WHO'S GONNA TAKE TIME OF THE VEHICLE? MAKE SURE THEY HAVE ALL I, I HAD TO GENTLEMAN, HE WAS, CAME UP EARLY, HE'S NOT HERE YET.
GET STAR TRANSIT TO DONATE THE FUEL YOU PROVIDING VAN AND THE CAR, THE DRIVER.
I DOUBT THEY THAT I GUESS THE ONLY, AGAIN, WE HAD TO GET HER INVOLVED.
WE START BUYING THE FUEL AND HE DONATE THE TIME.
NOW WE COME PROBABLY RESPONSIBLE FOR US HAULING THIS GUY.
WE MIGHT BE UNION, BUT MEAN CAN YOU CHECK THAT OUT OFFICE? WE OUGHT TO SEE WHERE WE STAND, HOW THAT WOULD WORK.
WE'D HAVE TO GET, AND THAT'S, AND THAT'S KIND OF WHY I'M UP HERE.
I MEAN IT'S WHETHER THE COUNTY WOULD BE INTERESTED IN YOU, YOU KNOW, START A PROGRAM LIKE THAT.
WE CAN WORK OUT THE LEGAL DETAILS AND UH, WE'LL NEED A FAIRLY, YOU KNOW, ESTIMATE ON FUEL DOING QUICK NUMBERS LIKE 40 IF THEY GET TWO TRIPS, UM, OR THREE TRIPS A WEEK BY YEAR.
SO COULD THAT BE SOMETHING THAT COULD GO ON A FUEL, FUEL MAN CAR OR WHATEVER IT'S CALLED I WOULD IMAGINE.
YEAH, WE JUST NEED TO KNOW WHAT BUDGET, SO, SO WHEN I GET SOMETHING MORE CONCRETE, Y'ALL, YOU COMMISSIONER AND LIKE I TALKED TO HER MAKE TOO, BRING HER INTO THE LOOP SO THAT SHE'LL KNOW WE'RE TRYING TO DO.
WE DON'T HAVE ANY LIABILITY IN YOU.
WE RATHER THAN WAIT UNTIL THE NEXT BUDGET WORKSHOP, WE CAN GO AHEAD AND EVERYBODY AGREE INCLUDE IN YOUR BUDGET.
WHAT? YOU SAID YOU HAVE A SECOND PLAN? NO, THAT REALLY 1, 2, 3 AND FOUR.
WE'LL TAKE ABOUT A 10 MINUTE BREAK AND THEN WE'LL COME BACK AND MOVE ALONG.
UH, MIKE SMITH, JUDGE SMITH FROM PRECINCT THREE IS NOT GOING HERE AND HE HAS NOT ASKED FOR, UH, ANY CHANGES.
HIS AND UH, SO, UH, AGAIN, WE'VE HAD A NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT CHANGES.
SO DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT PRECINCT THREE IS VERY, THAT PRECINCT, EVERYTHING WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT THERE'S NO ANY KIND OF SALARY INFORMATION.
ANYBODY HAVE ANY, ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT? OKAY.
UH, WHAT'D YOU SAY ABOUT EARLIER? IS SHE KIND OF OVER OR
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SHE'S CALLING HER TO SEE? SHE HASN'T WRITTEN, SHE HASN'T WRITTEN BACK YET.UH, RHONDA IS UH, WILL BE HERE A LITTLE LATER.
RAY, YOU CAN GET IN TOUCH WITH DESIREE.
EVERYBODY OKAY WITH JUDGE SCH SMITH? YEAH, SURE.
WE COULD SEND OUT HAMBURGERS OR PIZZA OR SOMETHING IF Y'ALL DOWN BURGER AND HAVE THEM MAKE US, WE'LL FIGURE OUT SOMETHING.
GO IN THAT AND BEAR THAT DOWN.
IT CAME TO THE ONE OVER IN, UH, CAROL ONE.
IS IT CLOSE OR NO? IS IT BE Y'ALL WANT TO DIVVY UP MAYBE 10 BUCKS AND SEND TO HEY, WE THOUGHT WE COULD BROUGHT THE COOKER.
YOU SEE TODAY OR TOMORROW? SHE'S, TODAY SHE'S DESIRE'S GOT A FEW REQUEST BUT HER, SHE PICKED UP SOME ADDITIONAL NOBODY.
KEITH CANNOT BE HERE UNTIL FOUR 20 BECAUSE OF WIFE'S PREP.
SO KEITH, STEVEN, HE CAN'T BE HERE TOMORROW.
YOU HAD 30 THAT'S THREE OF US.
AND OH, I GAVE HIM 20, GAVE 10 HAMBURGER,
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HAMBURGER, HAMBURGER, MUSTARD.WHAT DO YOU WANT ON HERE? THAT'S BEFORE BURGER.
DO I GET TO KEEP THE CHILI? I BRING IT BACK.
EVERYBODY IN OUR, YEAH, I'LL BE ALRIGHT.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR COMING TAKE OF BUSINESS HERE FOR LUNCH.
UH, SO, UH, DESIREE'S ACTUALLY SCHEDULE OR WAS SCHEDULED THIS AFTERNOON AT TWO 20 AND UH, SHE'S TURNED IN HER, UH, REQUEST AND A NOTICE.
THERE ARE SOME, UH, ADDITIONAL REQUEST DESIRE HAD STEPPED UP TO THE PLATE AND SOME OTHER ISSUES DEALING WITH INDIGENT, UH, HEALTHCARE.
SHE'S BEEN REPRESENTING ME WHEN I COULDN'T ATTEND, UH, MEETING IN DALLAS.
CONCERN YOU MENTAL HEALTH, UH, UH, PROGRAM THAT WE ARE GOING TO BE A PART OF BEGINNING IN JANUARY IS MM-HMM
AND SO, UM, UH, THERE, SHE'S ASKING FOR SOME ADDITIONAL TRAINING, UH, MONEY, A THOUSAND DOLLARS FOR, UH, AS YOU SEE THERE IN LINE ITEM 43 0 2 6 9, UH, FOR SOME SOFTWARE TRAINING IN A CLASS YOU NEED TO TAKE, I BELIEVE, UH, THERE'S SOME TRAINING, ADDITIONAL TRAINING THAT THEY'RE GONNA BE OFFERING AND I'M GONNA BE ABLE AND I DO THAT.
AND UH, ALSO SOME SOFTWARE, UH, UH, MAINTENANCE.
AND, UH, YOU'VE ALSO BEEN USING LEXUS NEXUS? YEAH, THE LEXINEXIS EVERY YEAR IT GOES UP 3%.
UH, IT'S JUST PART OF THE CONTRACT AGREEMENT THAT WE HAVE WITH THEM.
OKAY, SO THIS IS JUST ADDING TO THIS YEAR? YES.
AND IT IS THREE I UNDERSTAND FQ TOO.
MAKE SURE I USE IT A LOT THROUGH FOR OUR INMATES AS WELL AS OUR INDIGENT.
OKAY, SO THAT'S A SMALL INCREASE THEN YOU'D LIKE A LAPTOP AND UH, UH, HOPEFULLY SOMEWHERE AROUND FIVE, 600.
AND THEN, UH, YOU'RE ALSO TALKING ABOUT AN INCREASE IN SALARY.
AND, UH, AND YOU HAVE INCREASED THE AMOUNT OF, OR DID WHAT WE'RE DOING KIND SALARY INCREASE THING.
WE DON'T HAVE ALL OF OUR PROPERTY VALUES ON YET, AND SO WE'RE KIND OF OKAY.
WE DON'T HAVE THOSE HEALTH INSURANCE.
SO, BUT I DO REALIZE, AND I THINK THE COURT REALIZES THAT, UH, UH, YOU'VE TAKEN ON A LOT OF ADDITIONAL DUTIES AND, AND DOING A GREAT JOB AND THEN ACTUALLY GOING TO BE SERVING ON A BOARD THAT MAY LOCATE THEIR OPERATION HERE.
RIGHT NOW IT'S LOCATED IN COURSE KANSAS.
YEAH, I WOULD LIKE Y'ALL TO, WHAT'S IT? IT'S A COMMUNITY SERVICE, UM, INCORPORATED.
THEY'RE OUT OF ANA AND THEY'RE HEALTHY COMMUNITY, UM, PEOPLE THAT, UM, NEED HELP, ASSISTANCE WITH RENT, NEED, ASSISTANCE WITH UM, FOOD, UM, TRANSPORTATION.
IT'S, UM, AND THEY HAVE ASKED, UM, CU FOLKS AND THE JUDGE, UM, AND THE JUDGE, UM, RECOMMENDED MAYBE THAT I COULD SIT ON THE BOARD.
UM, JUNE THE 21ST, THEY'RE ACTUALLY GOING TO APPOINT ME TO THE BOARD.
AND SO, UM, WE'VE ALSO SPOKE TO HIM, UM, VERY MORNING, SOME MORE WANTING A NEW BUILDING SPACE MORE IN THIS AREA.
UM, THE JUDGE HAS TALKED TO S SEE IF MAYBE WE CAN GET THEM IN THIS DIRECTION THAT THEY CAN HELP MORE IN THIS COMMUNITY.
UM, YEAH, THEY SERVE, UH, RIVERO KAUFMAN, ELLIS ELLI
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AND I THINK ANDERSON COUNTY ROCK IN ROCKWELL.AND WE EVEN HAD A GENTLEMAN FROM MCKINNEY THAT'S ALSO GONNA BE ON THE BOARD AS WELL.
SO THEY'RE BE COUNTIES, BUT THEY OFFER, I'M SORRY, THEY'VE BEEN VERY DYSFUNCTIONAL.
THEY'VE NOT, UH, I THINK IT'S A BOARD THAT'S SET THERE OVER THE YEARS AND THEY'VE REALLY NOT FOLLOWED WHAT THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO BE DOING.
SO THEY'VE HIRED A NEW EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR TO COME IN AND I FORGIVE YOU HIS NAME.
AND DANIEL IS INTERESTED IN MOVING THAT OPERATION TO KAUFMAN COUNTY, SPECIFICALLY TO KAUFMAN.
AND UH, THEY HAVE A $8 MILLION BUDGET.
THEY HAVE AN $8 MILLION BUDGET.
IT PROVIDES, UH, UH, LOW INCOME PEOPLE THAT ARE HAVING MONEY TRUCKS PAYING THEIR ELECTRIC BILL.
UH, THAT ALSO HAS A MEALS ON WHEELS.
UH, BUT IT DOESN'T, IT WON'T INTERFERE WITH OUR CURRENT PROGRAM.
AND I DUNNO WHAT ELSE? UH, THEY TALK ABOUT, UM, THE UTILITIES, THE, UM, WEATHER RELATION ISSUES, WEATHERIZATION HOUSING, UH, RENT ASSISTANCE, UH, TRANSPORTATION AND, UH, FOOD.
UM, UH, LIKE I SAID, HE'S, AND, AND THE GOOD THING ABOUT IT, WHEN HE WAS HERE WITH ME AND THE JUDGE, UM, I ALSO HAD A COUNSEL MEETING AT THE HOSPITAL THAT DAY.
SO I TOOK HIM OVER THERE WITH ME.
UM, THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT WERE AT THE COUNCIL MEETING THAT ALSO WANTS TO KNOW A LITTLE BIT MORE WHAT IT WAS, I GUESS THAT THEY WERE GOT TO THE POINT.
UH, WHOEVER WAS IN THE ORGANIZATION, UH, HAD IT SO DYSFUNCTIONAL.
I MEAN, IT WAS IN BAD SHAPE TO THE POINT THAT THEY WERE HAVING TO TURN PEOPLE DOWN.
UM, SO THEY PUT HIM IN THIS POSITION.
HE HAS WENT IN THERE AND HE HAS CLEANED EVERYTHING UP.
HE'S TRYING TO BRING THIS PROGRAM BACK TO LIFE.
UM, AND HE IS TELLING US THAT HE STILL HAS MONEY FROM 2015 THAT HE'S, THEY STILL WHAT NOT USED.
UM, SO THEY'RE TRYING TO, TRYING TO GET IT OUT THERE AND THEY'RE TRYING TO ASSIST THEIR FUNDING COMES FROM THE STUDY.
BUT YEAH, TEXAS STATE HOUSE IS WHERE WE DON'T, WE'RE NOT UNDER, WE'RE NOT RESPONSIBLE.
IT COMES, SHOULD BE A, WE SHOULD BE THE BENEFACTOR OF IT.
THEY EMPLOY ABOUT 35 PEOPLE AND UH, MOST OF THEM NOW, THE FEW THAT ARE LEFT ARE RA COUNTY, BUT HE, THIS GENTLEMAN HAS BEEN CHARGED BY THE STATE TO COME IN AND GET THIS AND HE WAS LOOKING FOR A BOARD MEMBER.
SO SINCE IT'S THE INDIGENT FOLKS THAT THEY'LL BE WORKING WITH, UH, I ASKED HER TO GO DOWN AND ATTEND THE MEETING.
SHE DID AND GOT DOWN THERE AND THEY DIDN'T EVEN HAVE A QUORUM TO ME.
SO SHE GOT TO DRIVE BACK IN THAT BAD RAINSTORM WE HAD.
AND THAT'S PROBABLY WHY THE CORRUM WASN'T THERE BECAUSE IF THE WEATHER WAS SO BAD, A LOT OF PEOPLE DECIDED THEY HAD, AND WHAT IS IT OFFICIAL NAME? UM, COMMUNITY SERVICES INCORPORATED.
BUT HE WAS IN, HE WAS IN TERRELL
WELL ACTUALLY THEY DID HAVE AN OFFICE IN TERRELL AND THEY SHUT THE DOORS.
NOW I'M STILL LEARNING ABOUT THIS.
UM, ACTUALLY WHAT IT WAS, UM, PAM WAS TALKING WITH THE GENTLEMAN, UM, SHE HAS GOT A LOT ON HER PLATE.
SO THE JUDGE HAS ASKED ME TO STEP IN.
UM, HE'S SUPPOSED TO COME MEET WITH ME FOR LUNCH AND EXPLAIN MORE ABOUT HOW THIS PROGRAM WORKS AND HOW IT'S GONNA HELP, UM, THE PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITY AND EVERYTHING.
SO WILL WE, YOU KNOW, I'M GONNA LEARN MORE ABOUT IT.
THEY WOULD BE BETTER THAN WHAT THEY HAD AND IT WOULDN'T KIND OF WHAT I UNDERSTAND MOST OF THE PEOPLE THAT THEY WERE BEING NEVER HAPPENED AND DIDN'T SHOW UP.
BUT I THINK THAT WASN'T ON, I THINK IT WAS ALL OVER THEIR SERVICE AREA.
I MEAN IT DOESN'T COST US ANYTHING, BUT IF WE COULD GET THEM TO LOCATE HERE, UH, THAT WOULD, I MEAN THAT'S 35 JOBS OR POTENTIALLY 35 JOBS.
GOTTA BE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE SERVICE AREA TO BE THAT'S RIGHT.
AND I, AND I'M ALSO FINDING, UM,
UM, SHE SENDS US, UM, THINGS DAILY, UM, THEY HAVE RECENTLY SENT ME A, WHEN SHE CALLED ME, UH, AND I'M NOT SURE IF THERE'S ANYBODY FROM THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT HERE, BUT UM,
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THIS IS SOMETHING FOR LIKE OUR, UM, LICENSE PEACE OFFICER.IT'S A FREE AND THEY GET 24 HOUR T CLOSE HOURS, BUT IT'S A FREE COURSE, UM, FOR SEXUAL ASSAULT FAMILY VIOLENCE INVESTIGATORS.
SO, UM, IT, THIS PROGRAM, THIS, THESE PEOPLE RIGHT HERE ARE GONNA BE IN MAYBANK AND THEY'RE GONNA BE DOING THAT.
SO THEY GIVE SOME OF THEIR HOURS TO, THEY HAVE HOURS, SO, SO WE DON'T HAVE TO SEND THEM OFF THE, THERE GO RIGHT OUT'S BEEN CUT OUT THAT MANY HOURS.
SHERIFF OFFICE, I EMAILED IT TO BRIAN, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GOT HIM RESPONDING BACK.
BUT, UM, I DID GET FROM SOME OF THE OFFICERS ACROSS THE STREET, UM, AND THEY SAID THAT THEY COULD USE THE HOURS.
SO I MEAN, I DON'T, HE'LL GIVE TODAY OR TOMORROW.
CAN WE HAVE A COPY OF THIS? YOU CAN HAVE THAT.
I DON'T WHAT IT, I DON'T CARE.
I'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE ATTORNEY, UM, OFFICE, THE DA'S OFFICE ON INMATES AS WELL, TRYING TO SAVE MONEY THAT WAY.
UM, THE INCIDENT THAT WE HAD WITH THE INMATE, THE SHOOTING AT WALMART, UM, WE FOUND OUT THAT HE DID HAVE, UH, EXISTING INSURANCE.
UM, SO WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF UM, UH, I'VE ALREADY TURNED THE INSURANCE INTO THE HOSPITAL 'CAUSE HE WAS ACTIVE AT THE TIME OF SHOOTING AND HE WAS ACTIVE FOR THE WHOLE MONTH.
UM, AND WE POSSIBLY WITH THAT SITUATION ON OUR FINGERS, BE ABLE TO SAVE US ABOUT A 20 ABOUT THAT.
I'VE BEEN TRYING TO SAVE MONEY HERE,
SHE'S BEEN GREAT AND UH, SHE'S ALWAYS BEEN HELPFUL ON ANYTHING I'VE ASKED HER TO DO.
YOU SENT ME TO AN INFECTIOUS DISEASE, UH, SEMINAR FOR THREE DAYS SEMINAR.
BUT YOU MEET A LOT OF PEOPLE, A LOT, UH, INTERESTING PEOPLE AND THEY SEND YOU A LOT OF RESOURCE, SO IT'S GOOD TO KNOW.
AND NOW INSTEAD OF HER CALLING PEOPLE ABOUT THE HER JOB, PEOPLE ARE CALLING HER.
I'VE JUST FINISHED DOING A TRAINING WITH ELLIS COUNTY.
UH, THEY HIRED A NEW DIRECTOR OVER THERE AND I WENT OVER THERE TWO DAYS AND ASSISTED IN HELPING THEM GET ORGANIZED OVER THERE.
AND SHE'S STAYED IN THE COUNTY.
SHE'S GONE FROM UM, 147 CLIENTS ON HER PROGRAM DOWN TO 75, SO SHE'S YEAH.
SHE'S ALWAYS DONE A GREAT JOB.
HAS, AND IF YOU REMEMBER WE WENT FROM TWO FULLTIME PEOPLE TO WONDERFUL.
AND I THINK SHE STAYS, UH, PRETTY BUSY.
ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE ADDITIONAL ITEMS SHE'S, UH, ASKED FOR OTHER THAN THE SALARY THING, WHICH WE'LL HAVE TO COME BACK AND REVISIT THAT, SIR.
AND I THINK, UH, WHO DO WE HAVE NOW? I THINK RANDY'S ON, WELL, RANDY'S ON HIS WAY OVER IN EARLY AND RON DOES STILL COMING, BUT SHE'S NOT HERE.
SHE'S AT THE BANK, SO SHE WON'T BE HERE PROBABLY UNTIL HER REGULAR TIME.
SO GO AHEAD AND PUT THE ADDITIONAL IN FOR THE MAIL'S, MILEAGE AND LODGING THE SOFTWARE IN THE OFFICE.
LEAVE THE SALARY OFF TO RECEIVE WHERE WE'RE AT.
WELL WANTED YOU HAVE MUCH INFORMATION ABOUT THE DEPARTMENT,
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OSMOSIS.ALRIGHT, WE'RE A LITTLE EARLY.
SO WE DIDN'T GIVE YOU, OF COURSE WE HAD IT HERE IN FRONT OF US AND UH, SOME OF OUR FOLKS DIDN'T HAVE ANY CHANGES AND SO THOSE WERE PRETTY, UH, YOU'VE GOT, UH, THINGS HERE THAT YOU NEED TO LOOK AT.
SO EVERYBODY ON, UH, RANDY'S, UH, PAGE AND FIRST ONE HE HAD FIRE MARSHAL AND PUBLIC WORKS AND, UH, WE DIDN'T NUMBER THESE PAGES PROBABLY EASIER WE HAD, BUT, UH, YOU WANNA GO AHEAD AND START ON THAT FIRST PAGE, RANDY? WHERE BUDGET? WE WORKING? SALARY, SANITARIAN AND YEAH.
AND AGAIN, UH, I THINK WE DISCUSSED, WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT SALARIES TODAY.
UH, WE ARE TALKING ABOUT IF YOU NEED ADDITIONAL PERSONNEL WHERE WE CAN TRY TO WORK THOSE INTO, UH, THE BUDGET IF, IF WE'RE ABLE TO GRANT THOSE.
THE REQUEST IN PUBLIC WORKS IS, UH, I HAVE TO REQUEST FOR AN ADDITIONAL INSPECTOR AND UH, THEY MAY HAVE PUT THERE AS APPROXIMATE 'CAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THE STEP PROGRAM IN THIS COUNTY.
SO IF WE CAN, UH, CREATE A POSITION OF DEPUTY INSPECTOR TO BRING HIM IN IN A LOWER OCCURRENCE, UH, AND THEN EVENTUALLY IF THEY COULD WORK BACK UP TO IT OR SOMETHING.
RIGHT NOW ON, UH, 12 22, 5 20 ON FUND 10, YOU HAVE A SANITARIUM? YES, SIR.
AND WHO IS THAT? THAT IS WAYNE MCKENZIE.
AND THEN YOU HAVE AN OSSF COORDINATOR.
AND THESE ARE THE PEOPLE THAT ACTUALLY GO TO THE FIELD AND, UH, CHECK AND MAKE SURE THAT THE, UH, SEPTIC SYSTEMS ARE IN OPERATIONAL.
PRIMARILY WAYNE, BECAUSE AFTER MURRAY STRUCTURED, UH, MISTY IS TAKING CARE OF THE, UH, THINK, THINK TERMINOLOGY HERE.
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THAT COME ALONG WITH THE MAINTENANCE CONTRACTS.AND THERE'S, UH, YOU KNOW, WE DO A LITTLE OVER 29,000 PER YEAR.
UH, THEN YOU HAVE AN ATTACHMENT.
SO WHERE ARE YOU ASKING FOR AN ADDITIONAL PERSON? ON THE VERY, UH, FIRST PAGE.
UH, AND I'M NOT SURE HOW SHE INDICATED, UH, NOT ON MY BUDGET PAGE, BUT THE SECOND PAGE WITH THE GRAPHIC THAT SAYS SF INSTALLATION.
SO IT'S NOT ON YOUR BUDGET PAGE.
I WASN'T QUITE SURE HOW Y'ALL WANTED THIS.
I COULD, UH, ON MY BUDGET PAGE I DID INDICATE ON THE, UH, MY PART-TIME OR THE EXTRA HELP CALL, UH, WE COULD REDUCE THAT NUMBER, UH, BY ABOUT $16,000.
SO YOU COULD REDUCE THE, THE PART-TIME BY 16 AND BRING ON CLERK, BRING IN A CLERK AND NOT A SECRETARY COURT.
AND THEN, UH, THE SANITARIAN WOULD BE, UH, AN ADDITIONAL REQUEST.
THAT'S JUST IN PUBLIC WORK, RIGHT? YES, SIR.
AND UH, AND THEN A VEHICLE FOR THE SAN THE FEE THAT YOU ARE NOW, THE $10 FEE, IS THAT WHERE THAT COMES INTO? BETWEEN 60 TO 80,000.
WHAT THAT, THOSE FEES ARE BRINGING IN.
AND, AND GUYS, Y'ALL JUMPED IN HERE TOO.
SO THE, THE BOTTOM LINE IS BECAUSE OF THE INCREASE NUMBER OF, UH, RESIDENCIES WE HAVE, UH, PARTICULARLY IN SOME OF THE, UH, UH, MUDS AND, AND SPECIAL UTILITY DISTRICTS, UH, THOSE HAVE TO BE INSPECTED
AND WE'VE GOT SEVERAL HUNDRED OF THOSE BEING PLANNED IN THE NEXT, UH, SOME GOING UP NOW AND SOME BEING PLAN TO BE CONSTRUCTED IN THE NEXT YEAR OR TWO.
PUBLIC WORKS HAS BASICALLY HAD THE SAME STAFFING LEVEL FOR ABOUT THE LAST 15 YEARS.
AND IT'S OBVIOUS, YOU KNOW, THAT THE COUNTY HAS GROWN AND ON THE SEPTIC SYSTEMS PRIOR TO 1989, EVERYONE COULD HAVE A, WHAT'S CALLED A CONVENTIONAL SYSTEM, JUST THE GRAVITY FEED.
SINCE THAT TIME THEY'RE DOING THE SOIL SAMPLES AND EVERYTHING.
AND THE LARGE MAJORITY OF THE SYSTEMS IN CONMAN COUNTY HAVE TO BE THE AEROBIC TYPE SYSTEM BECAUSE OF THE CLAY SOILS.
AND, UH, PROPERTY SIZE, UH, THE OTHER FACTORS WOULD PILE ON THE HOMEOWNER.
THEY CAN STILL HAVE A CONVENTIONAL SYSTEM IF THEY HAVE ENOUGH LAND AND GONNA HAVE ENOUGH LINE LADDERAL LINE FOR THAT, THAT INCURS SIGNIFICANT COST WHEN THEY DO THAT.
SO MOST PEOPLE OPT FOR THE AEROBIC SYSTEM.
SO WHAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR IS ONE ADDITIONAL INSPECTOR.
AND THEN WITH THAT, YOU WOULD NEED A VEHICLE FOR THAT PERSON, FOR THAT INSPECTOR.
JUST A BASIC, JUST LIKE YOU HAVE JUST A YEAH, JUST THE BASIC EXPLORER AND THEN YOU'RE ASKING FOR AN ADDITIONAL CLERK.
THAT'S FOR ALL THE VOLUME OF PAPERWORK THAT'S COMING.
I'M CURRENTLY USING MY PART-TIME PERSON TO THE MAX AND WE'RE STILL, WE'RE STILL HAVING PROBLEMS. THE VOLUME I'VE HAD TO CONTACT HR TIMES, GO OVER THIS HOUR AND A HALF OR TWO HOURS THIS WEEK, THEN THE NEXT WEEK BE OKAY.
AND WE'VE DONE THAT SEVERAL TIMES.
THIS IS ONE OF THOSE DEPARTMENTS, IN MY OPINION THAT SHOULD COVER THE COST OF ITS OPERATION WITH THE FEE.
AND SO THE FEE THAT WE INCREASED LAST YEAR TOO, WE HAD TO ZERO.
I REQUESTED 25, WHICH WAS ABOUT THE NORM FOR THE SURROUND AND, UH, REQUESTED UH, 20.
BUT IT WAS PARTICULAR WHERE, WHERE IS THE, SOME OF THE OTHER COUNTIES AROUND US ARE, UH, THE AVERAGE IS ABOUT 25 50.
UH, HUNT COUNTY IS, UH, I BELIEVE 25.
AND HENDERSON COUNTY, IT'S HARD TO COMPARE WITH THEM.
THEY CONTRACT TO A PERSON TO DO THE WORK FOR THE COUNTY, BUT HE DOESN'T, YOU KNOW, HIS, HIS FEES ARE WHAT HE CHARGES DON'T KNOW.
THEY DON'T HAVE IT BROKEN DOWN AS TO HOW MUCH
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EACH INDIVIDUAL CAN PAY OUTRIGHT BECAUSE IT'S NOT THROUGH THE COUNTY.SO HE CHARGES EACH CUSTOMER, HE CHARGES THE COUNTY A CERTAIN DOLLAR AMOUNT PER A YEAR.
I'VE NOT GOT IN DEPTH BECAUSE NOBODY FROM THE COUNTY.
ALL THEY KNOW IS, IS IT'S CONTRACTED AND WELL WE OUGHT BE ABLE TO LOOK AT THE FUNDING.
YOU KNOW WHEN WE DISCUSSED THIS $10 FEEDBACK, WAS IT LAST YEAR? YEAH.
LAST BUDGET HERE IN THAT MEETING.
UH, I MADE A MOTION TO APPROVE THAT.
AS LONG AS EVERYTHING OVER 10 ACRES WAS EXEMPT FROM HAVING TO GET A PERMIT.
AS LONG AS LATERAL LINE IS MORE THAN A HUNDRED FOOT FROM THE PROPERTY LINE, THE PROPERTY OWNER THAT HAS 10 ACRES, THEY CAN, THEY COULD GET A CONVENTIONAL SYSTEM THAT WOULD HAVE TO HAVE, THAT'S THE HOMEOWNER'S CHOICE.
UH, IT SEEMS THAT THESE COMPANIES ARE MAKING THE AEROBIC SYSTEMS MORE AFFORDABLE UPFRONT.
'CAUSE THEY KNOW THAT IN THE LONG TERM THEY'RE GONNA CONTINUE, THEY'RE GONNA GET THEIR MONEY IN THE LONG RUN.
SO THEY CHARGE MORE FOR CONVENTIONAL SYSTEM BECAUSE IT'S A ONETIME DEAL.
AND BUT ANY PROPERTY OWNER HAS OPTIONS.
THEY DON'T HAVE TO GO WITH A, EXCEPT IN VERY, UH, SMALL PROPERTIES WHERE YOU DON'T HAVE THAT MUCH LAND.
BUT WHAT THE LAW SAYS ON THE FENCE LINE, THEY HAVE ONE ACRE LOT OR SOMETHING.
THEY CAN'T BE MORE THAN HUNDRED FEET IN THE PROPERTY.
WE'RE HAVING A FEW PEOPLE THAT ARE COMING IN AND GOING, UH, WITH THE, UH, LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM, WHICH IS KIND OF A HYBRID BETWEEN THE TWO.
IT'S NOT A, UH, SURFACE TREATMENT, IT'S NOT THE CHLORINATED SURFACE TREATMENT, BUT YET IT'S GOT SMALLER LINES THAT ARE BURIED BELOW GROUND.
IT JUST HAS A PUMP THAT FORCES THE WATER THROUGH THOSE LINES.
SO WHAT I MEAN, THAT'S STILL OUR POLICY.
IF YOU HAVE 10 ACRES OR LARGER AND YOUR LATERAL LINE IS MORE THAN A HUNDRED FEET FROM THE PROPERTY LINE, YOU CAN PUT IN WHATEVER KIND OF SYSTEM YOU WANT TO PUT IN.
THEY HAVE ALWAYS HAD THAT ABILITY TO PUT IN WHATEVER TYPE OF SYSTEM.
IF THEY HAVE ENOUGH LAND, IT IT'S EXEMPT FROM EXEMPTIONS OR INSPECTIONS.
I DUNNO WHO THE EXEMPTIONS, I DUNNO.
NOT BECAUSE THE WAY YOU CHARGE, YOU CHARGE IT FOR PEOPLE.
ACRES NOW INSPECT IF PERMIT COMES WITH AN AEROBIC SYSTEM, AIC THE ONE, THE ONLY ONE GET INSPECTED.
I MEAN EVEN IF THEY'RE STILL CHARGING.
WE HAVE TO, UH, FOR THE INSTALLATION, IT HAS TO BE DONE BY LICENSED.
AND THESE ARE TCQ REQUIREMENTS.
THERE HAS TO BE A LICENSE TO INSTALL IT.
SO WE HAVE THE INSPECTOR THAT VERIFIES THAT EXPLANATION.
AND THEN WE DON'T HAVE, WE DON'T INSPECT IT AGAIN, THEY HAVE TO GET INSPECTION.
THEY HAVE TO HIRE A COMPANY TO GET, GET CONTRACT.
THEY HAVE A, AND THEN THEY TURN IT INTO US AND WE TURN THAT INTO THE STATE.
QUESTION BACK TO YOU SALARIES UP HERE? YES SIR.
UH, IF YOU GO HIRE A CLERK, YOU SEE DOING REPORTS AT HER SALARY OR BEING, USE HER FOR HER BACK OUT IN THE FIELD AND HIRE.
I COULD USE HER SUB RIGHT NOW.
WHICH IT'S, IT'S ALL, UH, PLAN RIGHT NOW WHAT WE, WE, WE BELIEVE WE CAN DO.
I DO KNOW THAT, UH, THERE ARE SEASONAL TIMES OF YEAR THAT IT GETS EXTREMELY BUSY.
WE'RE ABOUT TO GET INTO OUR VERY BUSY TIME OF YEAR, SUMMER MONTHS.
UH, SHE WILL BE ABLE TO DO SOME INSPECTIONS, BUT EACH DAY THAT SHE'S OUT, THAT'S WHERE THE PAPERWORK IS BUILDING UP.
THAT'S WHY I SALARY YOU'RE PAYING FOR HER VERSUS THE CLERK? YES.
SHE, SHE SIGNS OFF ON THE CONTRACTS.
EITHER ONE OF THEM CAN SIGN OFF BECAUSE THEY BOTH, UH, LICENSE DESIGNATED REPRESENTATIVE STATE OF TEXAS.
WHAT DOES THAT TAKE TO BE A REPRESENTATIVE FOR THAT? YOU HAVE TO GO TO A TCQ COURSE OR REQUIRED COURSE AND IT'S UH, I BELIEVE IT'S A FOUR DAY COURSE.
THREE THREE OR FOUR DAY COURSE AND THEY GO THROUGH THAT AND THEN, UH, PASS.
SO THAT'S THE, WE DON'T HAVE TO HAVE A FIRE MARSHAL.
I'M NOT QUALIFIED TO DO THOSE.
WOULD YOU LIKE TO I YOUR TIME? MY FIRST IS ON THE WEEKEND TO THAT DEPARTMENT.
I FIGURED, YOU KNOW, I NEED, THEY DO A CHANCE.
I HAVE THE KNOWLEDGE, BUT I DON'T HAVE THE LICENSE DAYS.
SO WOULD YOU LIKE TO, IF UH, I'M BUSY ENOUGH, IF WE WORKED TO DECK DO TO
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REVISIT YOU THE, THE, UH, FEES THAT WE PAY, THAT WE CHARGE QUARTER SOMETHING, UH, BASED UPON THE NUMBERS AND PROJECTIONS YOU SEE, I BELIEVE THE LAST PAGE OR, UH, FROM, UH, FROM THE OFFICE.I DUNNO HOW TO USE THE IN PUBLIC WORK REVENUE VERSUS EXPENDITURES.
THIS WOULD BE 2013 IN YOUR TODAY YOU CAN SEE 20 13, 20 14.
UH, I CAME IN SEPTEMBER OF 2014 AND THAT'S WHEN WE RESTRUCTURED AND WE WERE A LOT MORE EFFICIENT IN THE DEPARTMENT.
WE WERE ABLE TO DO MORE WITH THE SAME AMOUNT OF PEOPLE.
AND WE WERE ALSO GOING, UH, WELL ACTUALLY I DUNNO IF YOU WANNA CALL IT PROFIT BECAUSE THAT'S REALLY NOT WHAT IT'S, BUT WE CAME UP 10,000 2 72 IN THE BLACK THAT FIRST YEAR.
UH, SO WELL, AND LET ME ADD, I THINK WE'RE DOING A LOT BETTER ON COLLECTING OF THE FEES.
IS THAT A FAIR STATEMENT? EVERYTHING IS WORKING BETTER.
THE COLLECTION OF THE FEES, THE TIME TIMELINESS IN WHICH, YEAH.
AND, AND THESE THINGS, THESE CASES ARE CLOSED AND FILED, HAVE THE FEE UNTIL HAVE 10 LAST YEAR.
I MEAN, YEAH, THE FEE DEFINITELY MADE A DIFFERE, YOU KNOW, THE FEE, FEE MADE A DIFFERENCE.
AND, UH, WELL WE HAD A FEE IN 2013.
WHAT DID YOU SAY JUDGE WOOD ON 2013.
IT SHOWS SANITATION FEES FOR 64,001 FEES, SANITATION FEES AND BOOKS REFERS TO THE PERMITS THAT ARE COLLECTED APPLICATION.
AND I DO BELIEVE NOW THEY'RE ALSO MAY, I BELIEVE THE ANNUAL, UH, INSPECTION, THE RENEWAL.
I BELIEVE THAT'S ALSO APPLIED TO THE LINE ITEM.
CONTRACTOR, THE CONTRACTOR OUT.
TYPICALLY WE WILL ACCEPT IT FROM THE OWNER OR THE CONTRACTOR.
THE OWNER IS THE RESPONSIBLE PART ACCORDING TO YEAH, BUT I MEAN THEY'RE HIRING SOMEBODY TO DO THAT ANNUAL.
THEY DO, WE DON'T ONLY DO IT THE FIRST TIME THAT THEY INSTALL IT.
YOU HAVE TO REMEMBER IN 2013 AND PART OF 2014, YOU HAD FOUR LONG-TERM EMPLOYEES IN THAT DEPARTMENT THAT RESIGNED TOO.
SO THAT WAS A LOT OF LONGEVITY AND STUFF THAT WAS INCLUDED.
AND THE DEPARTMENT WAS NOT PAYING FOR ITSELF HELPED.
I GOT, I I DON'T THINK IT'S TYPICAL AND I'VE BEEN TRYING TO GET SOME INFORMATION, BUT IT'S JUST NOT COMING IN YET BY THE TIME OF THIS MEETING.
BUT I HAVE SOUGHT SOME INFORMATION FROM OTHER COUNTIES AS TO WHAT IS THEIR REVENUE VERSUS EXPENDITURES.
UH, BUT JUST GENERAL TALK WITH A FEW OF 'EM WITHOUT SUPPLYING THE DATA.
UH, IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S NOT, THEY'RE NOT SELF SUPPORTED.
UH, FOR WHAT REASON? I DUNNO THAT WE HAVEN'T RECEIVED THE DATA, SO I CAN'T BACK THAT.
WELL THAT MAY NOT BE AS, UH, I MEAN MAY, MAY MORE STAFF PERHAPS ELLIS COUNTY HAS FIVE, BUT IT LOOKS LIKE LAST YEAR, UH, ACTUALLY, UH, WE, UH, HAD A, UH, AN INCOME OF $10,000, WHEREAS YOU, BEFORE LAST, WE ACTUALLY WERE IN THE RED 140 3013.
WE 55, 20 16 YEAR TO DATE, YOU'RE ALREADY IN THE BLACK.
AND SO THAT WOULD BE THROUGH, I GUESS MARCH FROM THE END OF MAY.
SO, UH, AND YOU'RE PROJECTING AT THE END OF THE YEAR, THAT'D BE 21.
THAT'S JUST A PROJECTION BASED ON THE CURRENT YEAH.
I DON'T, UNLESS SOMETHING HAPPENS AND THE BUILDING JUST STOPS, THAT'S PROBABLY NOT GOING TO GO DOWN.
SO THE ADDITIONAL REVENUE THAT WE HAVE HERE WOULD OFFSET, SHOULD OFFSET THE ADDITIONAL PEOPLE THAT YOU'RE ASKING TO HIRE.
AS WELL AS THE PURCHASE OF THESE VEHICLES.
SO, UH, IS EVERYBODY, WITHOUT DOING ANYTHING TO THE FEE, ARE YOU ASKING FOR A FEE INCREASE?
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NOT CURRENTLY, BECAUSE IT'S NOT REALLY, WELL, WE, WE DIDN'T, UH, BUT IF IT IS THERE, I MEAN, BUT IT, IT APPEARS THAT WITH THIS, THAT THE $10 FEE IS COVERING THE COST OF THE DEPARTMENT.NOW, ONE REASON I THINK THAT, UH, RANDY WEARS THREE HATS AND SO THAT MAKES A DIFFERENCE.
YOU DON'T HAVE, WE USED TO HAVE A PERSON OVER PUBLIC WORKS.
REMEMBER WHEN WE COMBINED THE THREE DEPARTMENTS, YOU KNOW, AND SO THAT WE'RE GETTING SOME ECONOMY AND SCALE THERE.
SO, SO AS WE MOVE ALONG IS, UH, IS EVERYBODY OKAY AT THIS POINT IN TIME FOR THE AUDITOR TO ADD AN ADDITIONAL PERSON AS A INSPECTOR? AND AS A CLERK? AND THEN ALSO FOR NEXT YEAR THE PURCHASE OF A, UH, A SMALL VAN OR WHATEVER YOU CALL IT THING.
IT'S JUST A, JUST A BASIC TWO WHEEL DRIVE FORD EXPLORER FOUR WHEEL DRIVE AROUND, THEY'LL HAVE ALL THE COUNTY MARKINGS ON IT.
SO DO ANYBODY HAVE ANY, ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT, RANDY? YES, I DO.
WHY DOES AN INSPECTOR NEED A FORD EXPLORER QUESTION? I'M JUST ASKING JUST A FEW OF THE TOOLS THAT THEY CARRY.
THEY DON'T CARRY NEAR THE TOOLS THAT THE FIRE MARSHAL DOES.
WHAT, WHAT DO THEY CARRY? BUT, BUT THEY CARRY, UH, A LEVEL, YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE TO CHECK THE A LEVEL.
IN VERY RARE CASES, WE HAVE A TRANSIT THAT IS USED, BUT MOST OF THE TIME THE TRAINS IS NOT NECESSARY.
THAT'S NOT A TOOL WE CAN MAKE.
UH, JUST A FEW SO THEY COULD MUD BOOTS A FEW OF THE HAND TOOLS.
UH, MAYBE YOU BUY A SMALLER CAR THOUGH.
CAR NEXT, MAYBE I WAS JUST LOOKING FOR SOMETHING THAT THE, THE GENTLEMAN THAT'S DRIVING THAT LITTLE VEHICLE RIGHT NOW, IT IS LIKE PUTTING HIM IN A ALREADY, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S TOUGH.
UH, IT'S VERY DIFFICULT FOR ME TO GET IN.
I JUST NEED FOR SOMETHING THAT A RIDE, YOU A MAN CAN GET IN AND OUT.
HE WON'T BE MAKING INSPECTIONS.
SOME SORT OF VEHICLE THAT MAY NOT BE A YEAH, YEAH.
I ACTUALLY GOT A, I HAD A QUOTE, KAREN, WHEN, WHEN WE BOUGHT THE OTHER TWO PUBLIC WORKS VEHICLES, WE HAD THEM FINANCED AND I THINK THE NOTE ON THE TWO WAS LIKE FOR FOUR OR FIVE YEARS AND IT WAS LIKE SIX, $7,000.
IT WASN'T A WHOLE LOT OF MONEY.
I HAVE A FIVE QUOTE ON THAT BOARD, I BELIEVE.
DID I NOT INCLUDE THE ONE BEFORE? YEAH, IT'S INCLUDED.
SO ANY, ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT WILL, I DON'T WANNA COME BACK AND REVISIT THIS IF WE KEEP FROM IT OTHER THAN THE VEHICLE.
BUT THEN GO AHEAD AND ADD THE, UH, UH, THE INSPECTOR.
THE INSPECTOR AND THE CLERK BASED ON THE FACT THAT WE'LL HAVE THE REVENUE TO OFFSET THOSE COSTS.
HAD TO FIGURE OUT ON THE VEHICLE.
THEN I HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION BECAUSE ON EXTRA HELP, HE, HE SAID HE COULD DROP THAT IF YOU ADDED HIM A FULL-TIME PERSON, SIR.
SO DO I NEED TO CHANGE THAT ALSO? 16,000? YES MA'AM.
IT WOULD BE, UH, MINUS I WOULD TO KEEP ABOUT FIVE IN THERE IN THE EVENT I WOULD TO CALL FOR SICKNESS OR VACATION PURPOSES IF I HAD TO BRING SOMEONE ELSE IN.
SO MISTY IS GOING TO GO INTO THE FIELD AND THEN YOU'RE GONNA SHE'LL STILL BE PRIMARILY OUR DEPARTMENT COORDINATOR.
SHE IS THE ONE THAT, UH, MOSTLY FILL THE COMPLAINTS WHEN THEY COME IN BECAUSE SHE'S QUALIFIED TO ANSWER ALL THAT.
SHE COORDINATES THE, UH, WAYNE'S SCHEDULE THROUGH THE, TO THE SECRETARY.
SO ISN'T THAT KIND OF A DUPLICATION PER AND THE SECRETARY, I MEAN THEY'RE BOTH THERE ANSWERING THE PHONE.
WELL, SECRETARY OF ATION, IT'S ALL THE PHONES FOR ALL THREE DEPARTMENTS.
PUBLIC WORKS AND PUBLIC WORKERS.
MISTY IS HER PRIMARY FUNCTION OTHER THAN MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, EACH DAY IS ORGANIZED, THE CONTRACTOR'S CALLING IN AND WANNA SCHEDULE THESE INSPECTIONS.
SHE'LL COORDINATE, UH, WITH SECRETARY, YOU KNOW, GET PUT DOWN.
UH, EVERYBODY JUST KIND OF HELPS EVERYBODY OUT.
BUT PRIMARILY MISTY IS THE ONE THAT ENTER THESE RIGHT AT 30,000
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DOCUMENTS PER YEAR ON THE, UH, INSPECTION REPORTS.THE MAINTENANCE CONTRACT ITSELF OR THE INITIAL PERMITS, THAT'S THE PAPERWORK THAT THE SECRETARY HANDLE PRIMARILY.
'CAUSE NEITHER MISTY NOR MY SECRETARY ARE ABLE TO KEEP UP WITH THAT VOLUME OF WORK PLUS THE PHONE CALLS AND COMPLAINTS AND SO FORTH.
WE ALSO HAVE COURT EACH MONTH THAT WE HAVE TO PREPARE A DOCKET FOR AND HAVE PREPARE OUR CASES TO TESTIFY IN THAT COURT.
AND, UH, SO THERE'S ADDITIONAL TIME SPENT SEVERAL DAYS OF GETTING THAT ARRANGED AND, AND PREPARED.
YOU'LL PRESENT PROPER TESTIMONY.
UH, I HAVE GRAPHICS IN THERE OF ALL THE COURT CASES AND YOU CAN SEE THE ESCALATION IN CASES THROUGH THE YEARS ON INSPECTION REPORTS ON THE MAINTENANCE REPORTS.
AND THESE ARE ALL, THEY'RE ALL DATA NUMBERS THAT ARE COMING OUTTA THE DATABASE.
UH, THE NUMBER OF INSTALLATIONS.
UH, AND ANOTHER THING THAT'S NOT REALLY BEEN, UH, CONSIDERED UNTIL JUST RECENTLY, THE AVERAGE LIFE SPAN OF A S SYSTEM IS 30 TO 50 YEARS.
WHEN THOSE SYSTEMS, THE ORIGINAL SYSTEMS THAT ARE IN THE GROUND, THE CONVENTIONAL SYSTEMS, WHEN THEY BECOME INTO FAILURE AND ANOTHER PERSON MOVES OUT, ANOTHER PERSON MOVES IN, THEY HAVE TO REDO THAT SYSTEM.
THEY NOW BY STATE LAW HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE SOIL TEST.
THE SOIL TEST IS WHAT DETERMINES IF THEY CAN KEEP THE CONVENTIONAL SYSTEM OR IF THEY HAVE TO GO IN THE ER GIVEN THE CONFINEMENTS OF PROPERTY, IF THEY HAVE ENOUGH PROPERTY, THEY CAN STILL GO TO THE CONVENTIONAL.
IT MAY HAVE TO BE EXTENDED, IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE 10 ACRES.
UH, AS LONG AS YOUR LATER LINE CAN BE A HUNDRED FEET FROM THE, AS LONG AS THAT SOIL TEST, WHICH IS DONE BY A, UH, A LICENSE TO, BUT IT'S, YEAH.
AND THAT SOIL TEST IS PERFORMED BY THAT, NOT BY US.
UH, AND LET'S JUST SAY A PERSON HAS A CONVENTIONAL SYSTEM AND HAS TWO FEET.
THAT WAS PRIOR TO TTS RULES THAT HAVE BEEN IN EFFECT SINCE 1989.
DID THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? THE NEED? OH, THE THE NEED.
OKAY, LET'S MOVING DOWN TO, IS EVERYBODY OKAY WITH THAT? BUT I WANNA MAKE SURE KAREN GETS THIS DOWN BACK ON THE VEHICLE.
WE'LL HAVE TO WORK THROUGH WHATEVER WE DECIDE TO DO.
SO THE NEXT PORTION, THE FIRE MARSH.
RANDY, YOU WANT TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT.
I THINK Y'ALL BEHIND THE BUDGET CHIEF ON THE REQUEST.
I'M, UH, REQUESTING AN ADDITIONAL DEPUTY INVESTIGATOR.
I WOULD PREFER THAT THEY'RE ABLE PERFORM ALL.
AND YOU REALIZE HERE RECENTLY THE SITUATION WE RAN INTO WITH OUR FLEET VEHICLES, WE HAD ONE OF THE ENVIRONMENTAL VEHICLES THAT WAS DOWN AND HE HAD TO USE ONE OF THE, WELL, THE ONLY RUNNING RESERVE VEHICLE THAT WE HAVE.
AND, UH, IT WAS A FORD RANGER.
AND THE ONLY REASON THAT IT WAS AVAILABLE IS BECAUSE I HAVE ONE OF MY RESERVED DEPUTIES THAT IS OUT AN, UH, UNDETERMINED, I'M NOT SURE IF YOU'LL
TWO OR THREE YEARS AGO, LARRY WAS IN OFFICE.
WE WERE SEEING THE TREND ON THE INCREASED NUMBER OF THE INSPECTIONS AND THE GROWTH OF
ALL THE, UH, JUST ON THE FIRE CODE SIDE, THERE'S MUCH MORE CONSTRUCTION GOING ON.
IF YOU GO TO WHAT I HAVE AS PAGE THREE, THE FIRST GRAPHIC, IT WILL SHOW THE, UH, THE MAJOR PRIOR INVESTIGATION.
THIS WILL ONLY BE LIKE YOUR TRUCTURE PRIOR TO YOUR VEHICLE PRIOR.
THERE ARE MANY OTHER TYPES OF INVESTIGATIONS TO DO, BUT TYPICALLY THERE'S MUCH SIMPLER, UH, LESS INVESTIGATION TIME INVOLVED AND SO FORTH.
IT WILL BE THE MAJOR FIRE INVESTIGATIONS.
YOU CAN SEE THE UPPER TREND IS WHERE WE'RE CURRENTLY, AND THAT'S VEHICLES AND STRUCTURES.
THE NEXT PAGE GETS MORE TOWARDS THE FIRE CODE SIDE OF THINGS, INSPECTION.
AND THESE ARE THE NEW CONSTRUCTION AND BUILDING PERMITS, LARGE PROJECTS.
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WE HAVE MANY LITTLE SMALL SIMPLE CHANGE OF EXPERTISE, UH, YOU KNOW, MORE OF A SIMPLE TYPE INSPECTION, BUT YOUR LARGE PROJECTS, UH, YOU KNOW, THE HIGH SCHOOL, THE DOCTOR'S OFFICES, UH, THE PROPOSAL THAT'S GOING UP IN HEARTLAND NOW, THINGS THAT WE'RE WORKING ON, THAT'S WHAT THIS, I DIDN'T WANT TO INUNDATE YOU WITH EVERY FIGURE THAT WE HAD BECAUSE YOU GAVE US A LOT, A LOT MORE PAGES THAN THIS.WE'RE TRYING TO KEEP IT DOWN, BUT YOU GAVE US STILL INFORMATION TRYING TO SHOW YOU WHERE, WHERE WE'RE GROWING AND WE'RE CONTINUING TO GROW.
SO YOU INSPECT STUFF THAT'S BUILT IN THE CEILINGS DO NO SIR.
IF IT'S WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS, TAR COFFEE, ET CETERA, THEY HAVE THEIR OWN INSPECTOR.
THIS IS ONLY IN THE UNINCORPORATED PORTION OF THE COUNTY.
WELL WHAT FOR EXAMPLE ABOUT THE EPJ OVER IN CRANDALL WHERE YOU'RE CONTRACTING WITH THE CITY OF CRANDALL TO DO, WE'RE NOT REALLY CONTRACTING WITH CITY OF CRALL.
UH, THERE HAVE BEEN ISSUES IN THE PAST THAT HAVE BEEN RESOLVED.
UH, THAT WAS A FORMER ADMINISTRATION, UH, IN
WELL, I'M TALKING ABOUT WHEN IT COMES TO BUILDINGS COMMERCIAL BUILDING, THAT COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS ARE EXCLUSIVELY, UH, OUR ROLE BECAUSE IT'S IN THE ETJ, EVEN IF IT'S IN THE E TJ.
THE LAW IS VERY CLEAR AND, AND BLACK AND WHITE THAT A MUNICIPALITY SHALL NOT GOVERN THE USE OF THE NUMBER OF THE BUILDINGS AND SO FORTH.
THAT, THAT THE INFRASTRUCTURE.
UH, MANY OF THE LARGE PROJECTS, UH, THE HIGH SCHOOL, UH, THE JUNIOR HIGH THAT'S UP THERE POINT AND UH, THE ONE THAT'S GOING UP, THEY HAVE ALSO OPTED TO USE A THIRD PARTY INSPECTOR.
I'VE TOLD THEM WE HERE, WE WORK SIDE BY SIDE, BUT WE'VE DONE IT BEFORE.
WE WORKED LOT DRILL
SO THESE NUMBERS SHOW WE HAVE AN AVERAGE OF, UM, COMBINING THE LARGE, UH, PROJECTS AND MINOR PROJECTS.
YOU HAVE BASICALLY TWO INSPECTIONS A WEEK ON THE FIRE AND LIFE SAFETY PERMITS DOWN HERE.
THAT'S JUST A LITTLE MINOR CONSTRUCTION.
I MEAN, THAT'S GROWING, BUT YOU'RE STILL LESS THAN 200 MINUTES A WEEK.
YEAH, THE LARGE, WHEN YOU'RE AT YOU AT 16 THROUGH MAY AND YOU A LITTLE OVER HALF A YEAR, YOU 37, YOU'RE ON TRACK TO BE LEFT THIS YEAR.
YOU, IT'S, IT'S PROBABLY GOING BE ABOUT THE SAME.
WE'RE NOT QUITE GONNA PLAY THROUGH WITH THIS.
THIS IS ALSO, I APOLOGIZE, THIS IS JANUARY, MAY, THIS IS NOT OCTOBER.
UH, THE NUMBER WOULD BE, OH, IT'S NOT FISCAL, IT'S NOT THIS.
IN MAY MOST EVERYTHING WOULD BE MAY INFORMATION.
THIS WOULD BE THE CURRENT IN MAY, JANUARY, NOT OCTOBER.
YEAH, IT'S OCTOBER WHEN I PULL IT, WHEN I PULL IT FROM OUR DATABASE.
THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT IT PROVIDED ME.
NOW I COULD PULL TWO DIFFERENT RUNS AND GO FROM OCTOBER THROUGH YEAR.
WELL, I MEAN IF EACH YEAR IS COMPARABLE.
LAST YEAR PROJECTS, AND THIS WAS AS OF MAY, UH, 19TH, I BELIEVE 20TH IS JUNE.
AND THIS IS JUST THAT SIDE OF IT, JUST THE, THE INSPECTIONS WHERE WE HAVE TO GO OUT AND DO A SERIES OF INSPECTIONS.
I MEAN, YOU, YOU'VE GOT YOUR, YOUR PRECO FOUNDATION, STRUCTURAL ROUGH ELECTRIC, SO FORTH.
THERE'S, YOU KNOW, YARD QUITE FAMILIAR WITH THAT.
BUT THE, UH, ANNUAL BUSINESS INSPECTIONS ON THE NEXT PAGE IS BROKEN DOWN.
THESE ARE ALL STATE MANDATED INSPECTIONS.
THE STATE REQUIRES EACH ONE OF THESE TYPES OF OCCUPANCIES TO HAVE AN ANNUAL INSPECTION, YET THE STATE DOES NOT PERFORM THOSE INSPECTIONS.
SO THE PURPLE GRAPH WOULD BE YOUR FOSTER HOME OR CORRECT.
THAT'S GONNA BE THE FIREWORKS.
THE BLUE WOULD BE YOUR FOSTER HOMES, WHICH THEREFORE WHILE YOUR CLIENT AND ON THE VIALS, UH, DAYCARES AND YOUR RESIDENTIAL BOARD OF CARE ASSISTED LIVING TYPE FACILITIES, WE ONLY HAVE TO GIVEN NUMBER IN THIS COUNTY.
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NOT IN CREEK.THOSE ARE JUST INSPECTION POPULATIONS ARE THESE ARE THE ONES THAT ARE IN THE COUNTY, NOT IN CITIES.
WELL THE GOOD NEWS IS WE NEVER PASSED IT THOSE ADDITIONAL TWO DAYS.
FOR WE SEEING LESS OF THE SMALL STANDARD AND MORE OF THE, AND WHICH REQUIRE A LITTLE BIT MORE.
IT'S OUR PERMIT AND IT ALSO INVOLVES MORE PROCESS INSPECTION.