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ABOUT WANTING TO DO FIREWORKS FROM MEMORIAL DAY, WHETHER HE EVER CALLED OR NOT, BUT, WELL, I GOT EMAIL.I, I'VE ONLY HAD TWO VENDORS CONTACT MY OFFICE.
AND I EXPLAINED TO, THEY ASK WHERE I STOOD.
I'VE GOT NO PROBLEM WITH ANY TYPE OF, WE'RE NOT TRYING TO ANYBODY OUTTA IT, BUT AS A FIRE, YOU'RE IMPOSING SOMETHING THAT WOULD POTENTIALLY CAUSE US MORE DANGEROUS.
IT BEEN RANDY, I, I THINK, UH, THE QUESTION, LET'S GO AHEAD AND TALK ABOUT, LET'S TIE THIS INTO THE ENVIRONMENTAL OFFICER AS WELL, BECAUSE I THINK YOU'RE ASKING FOR AN ADDITIONAL ENVIRONMENTAL OFFICER SEPARATE, UH, SEPARATE LICENSES AND EVERYTHING.
IF, UH, AND, AND WE STILL GOTTA CONFIRM WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO HERE.
IS THERE A POSSIBILITY THAT YOU COULD CROSS TRAIN OR HAVE A, A FIRE MARSHAL, UH, TRAINED AS AN ENVIRONMENTAL OFFICER AS WELL? I MEAN, I KNOW IT'D TAKE MORE TRAINING AND ALL OF THAT, BUT THE ENVIRONMENTAL SIDE OF IT IS VERY SPECIFIC AND IT'S, UH, IT'S MORE IN DEPTH BECAUSE THERE'S LARGE NUMBER
UH, IT WOULD TAKE, I WOULD ESTIMATE, UH, SIX MONTHS OF FIELD TRAINING TO TAKE SOMEONE THAT JUST, THAT IS A PEACE OFFICER WHERE THEY WOULD'VE THE ABILITY TO RIGHT.
AND HAVE THEM RIDE AROUND AND LEARN ALL THE TRICKS, THE TRADE, YOU KNOW, THE PROCESSES, ALL THE LAWS AND EVERYTHING.
AND THEN RIDE AROUND IN THE COUNTY.
IT WOULD TAKE A SIGNIFICANT, HOW LONG WOULD IT TAKE YOU TO TRAIN SOMEBODY THAT WASN'T A PEACE OFFICER? LESS TIME WE'VE HAD TO SEND IN THROUGH SCHOOL TO BE A PEACE OFFICER.
BECAUSE YOU CAN'T, YOU CAN'T ISSUE YOU, YOU HAVE AN ENVIRONMENTAL OFFICER THAT WASN'T A PEACE OFFICER.
BUT WE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO DO THE EXTENT THAT WE HAVE ONE, WE DON'T HAVE THE
I, A LOT OF CITIES AND COUNTIES DO HAVE THAT.
I MEAN, A LOT OF 'EM HAVE, THEY HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT RIDE AROUND.
AND IF THEY NEED A PEACE OFFICER AND THEY PICK UP RADIO AND THEY CALL THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT, THEY COME OUT AND ENFORCE THE LAW PART SOMEWHAT IF THEY KNEW ABOUT IT.
BUT MOST POLICE OFFICERS WOULDN'T HAVE A CLUE OF IT.
THEY WOULD'VE TO DEPEND UPON THE DETECTIVE.
WELL, AND THAT GOES BACK TO WHAT I WAS ASKING IF, IF THE COURT DID DECIDE TO ADD THE ADDITIONAL FIRE MARSHAL, COULD THAT BE A COMBINATION OF FIRE MARSHAL AND, UH, ENVIRONMENTAL OFFICERS TO ELIMINATE ONE FULL POSITION? UH, IT, IT COULD BE DONE IF A KEY TO IT WOULD BE FINDING THE RIGHT PERSON, I SUPPOSE, AND, UH, THE SALARY THAT WOULD ATTRACT THAT.
SO THE ENVIRONMENTAL SIDE OF IT, UH, TYPICALLY THE YOUNGER GENERATION DOESN'T SEEM EXCITED ABOUT IT BECAUSE IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT THE POLICE CHASES AND THE FOOT PURSUITS AND ALL THAT.
IT'S GOING DOWN IN CREEK BEDS WITH YOUR PARTNER COVERING SNAKES FOR YOU AND, UH, DIGGING AROUND IN MUD AND MUD AND TRASH AND STINKING AND ALL THAT.
AND, UH, MOST PEOPLE JUST DON'T WANT IT.
WELL, I KNOW THAT OUR ENVIRONMENTAL GUYS DID LOT OF CALLS AND I KNOW AT ONE TIME THEY WERE PRETTY FAR BEHIND.
ON THE FILING OF CASES THERE'S HUNDREDS SUSPENDED.
SO, UH, WE MADE PROGRESS, BUT IT'S A VERY SLOW PROGRESS.
AND AS WE CONTINUE TO GROW, WHAT HAPPENS WHEN PEOPLE AND EVERYBODY IN HERE KNOWS IT'S WHEN PEOPLE MOVE TO THE COUNTRY FROM THE CITY, THEY THINK THEY'VE GOT THE SAME, UH, YOU KNOW, UH, SERVICES, SERVICES THAT THEY HAVE IN THE CITY.
AND TO GET UPSET AT THE COUNTY BECAUSE, WELL, YOU GUYS CAN'T COME OUT HERE AND DO THIS.
OR RECENT, UH, RECIPIENTS OF SOME OF THE COMPLAINTS.
THE, A COUPLE OF THE AREAS IN THE COUNTY THAT WE'VE HAD ISSUES WITH, THE SEPTIC SYSTEMS YOU'RE QUITE FAMILIAR WITH AND YOU'RE SOMEWHAT FAMILIAR.
WE'RE GETTING AN UPPER HAND ON THE SEPTIC SIDE OF IT, BUT NOW WE'RE LOOKING AT A LOT OF ILLEGAL DUMPING AND A LOT OF ANCE.
WE'RE TRYING TO GET BACK ON TOP OF THAT.
YOUR GUYS DRIVE FULL BLOWN, FULL SIZE PICKUPS AND THEY'LL GO OUT AND THEY'LL OPEN THE TRASH BAG, GO THROUGH IT, GET A NAME IF THERE IS ONE, AND THEN PAINT A RED X ON IT.
WE HAVE STOP OUR ROAD CREWS, WHAT THEY'RE DOING TO GO OUT THERE AND PICK IT UP.
THERE'S ONLY ONE WAY I'D VOTE FOR ANOTHER OFFICER AND IT'S, THAT'S IF YOU IMPLEMENT A PROGRAM FOR ANYTHING THAT THAT
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MAN BY HIMSELF CAN PICK UP AND PUT IN THAT PICKUP AND BRING THE DUMPSTER AND THROW IT IN THE DUMPSTER IF IT'S BAG TRASH.IT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THEY HAVE BEEN PICKING IT UP.
'CAUSE OF THAT, THE DOCUMENTATION WHERE THEY'VE BEEN TAKING IT TO TERRY, I GOT THE DOCUMENTATION WHERE THEY PAINT A RED X ON IT AND CALLED US.
AND WE HAVE TO STOP ROAD CONSTRUCTION, WHICH WE'RE SHORTHANDED ANYWAYS FOR WHAT WE HAVE TO DO.
SO IS THAT SOMETHING YOU CAN CORRECT ON YOUR END? SURE.
ANYTHING THEY CAN PICK UP IF IT'S BY THEMSELVES, IF BAGS TRASH THERE, IF THEY CAN THROW IT BACK TO PICK UP TRUCK, THEY SHOULD BE NOT LIKE A COUCH OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT OR, BUT WHEN IT'S, YOU KNOW, THE MATTRESSES AND JUST THE PILE OF TRASH, IT'S ALL IN THE YARD.
WE DON'T HAVE THE, THE EQUIPMENT.
THIS SO ONE OR TWO OR THREE TRASH BAGS.
WE'VE A, A REQUEST FOR AN ADDITIONAL, UH, DEPUTY FIRE MARSHAL AND AN ADDITIONAL ENVIRONMENTAL OFFICER.
SO WHAT'S, WHAT'S YOUR PLEASURE? DO YOU HAVE A TOTAL OF HOW MANY EMPLOYEES AND DOLLARS YOU'RE ASKING FOR ALL DEPARTMENTS? YES SIR.
WHO IS IT IN THIS GOT GOT NO TRUST.
WHATCHA ASKING FOR AS FAR AS PUTTING IT ON YOUR SHEET? NO SIR, I HAVE NOT.
WE KIND OF KNEW THIS GAME, BUT, UH, I, I BELIEVE I REPRESENTED BY, I JUST MAY NOT HAVE PUT OKAY.
IN THE FORMAT YOU READ, BUT I CAN DO THAT FOR YOU.
CLERK CAN, UH, AND THE OTHER CAR AND THAT ONE, TWO, SOME OF BE PAID FOR OUT THE INSPECTION FEE, UH, IN THE PUBLIC WORKS THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHAT WOULDN'T BE OUTTA THE GENERAL.
IF YOU, IF YOU LOWER THE, THE, UH, IF YOU WANNA GO ALL THE WAY BACK TO IT AND SAY 97 BE ABOUT 107, TAKE HIM 76.
76, YOU'RE PROJECTING HOW MUCH YOU GONNA TAKE HIM.
THEY ALSO PROVIDED, I JUST LIKE TO SEE WHAT THE TOTAL DOLLAR WE'RE LOOKING AT HERE.
SO THE TOTAL REQUEST IS ABOUT 250,000, ABOUT 250,000 TOTAL THAT WE'RE GOING TO NET OVER WHAT WE DID LAST YEAR.
AND THEN IF YOU NET WHAT WE WERE ESTIMATING FOR THIS YEAR.
AND YOU'RE GONNA LOOK AT ABOUT 80,000 BECAUSE I THINK THAT WAS, WHAT WAS THAT ESTIMATE OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND OUT THE GENERAL 80,000 OUTTA THE GENERAL FUND.
DOES THAT INCLUDE THE VEHICLE THOUSAND ACTUALLY INCLUDES, YEAH.
TWO BECAUSE YOU'RE GONNA HAVE SOME KIND OF LITTLE CAR FOR THE PERSON TO GO OUT AND GIVE THE PERMIT.
BUT NOW CODE FUND, CAN YOU PURCHASE ONE OF THOSE VEHICLES? THAT'S WHAT I WAS GONNA SAY.
WE UH, THIS WAS DETERMINED BY THE COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.
EVEN BACK DURING JUNIOR THAT IF IT'S WITHOUT SAYING WE GOT 20% HERE THIS DAY, 30% THAT DAY WHEN IT'S A MIXED USE, YOU HAVE TO SEPARATE THE INVESTIGATIONS AND FIRE CODE.
IF IT'S 100% DEDICATED FIRE CODE, THAT'S ALL THAT USED FOR.
YOU CAN TAKE ALL THE FUNDING FOR THAT VEHICLE FOR THE FIRE AND MARSHAL.
BUT IT WAS APPROVED BY THE YEAH, BUT IT WAS APPROVED BY HER AND THEY READ UP ON IT AND EVERYTHING AND THEY SAID THAT WE COULD PAY FOR HALF OF THE VEHICLE IF IT WAS MIXED USE.
PART OF IT WOULD BE USED FOR INVESTIGATIONS.
SO THIS FIRE MARSHAL FELL, IF WE ADD THAT IT'S GOING, WE COULD USE, WE COULD PAY FOR HIS VEHICLE OUT OF THE FIRE CODE FUND, WHICH, HOW MUCH IS IN THE FIRE CODE FUND? UH, 118,000.
SO WE WOULD'VE THE MONEY IN THE FIRE CODE FUND THAT WOULD TAKE CARE OF TO PICK UP.
UH, AND THEN THE DONE ON ALL THE OTHERS, UH, THAT SUPPLEMENTAL CELL THAT'S MOVED FROM THE FIRE CODE FUND OVER TO THE ENTIRE, WE CAN DO THAT AS WELL.
SO THAT WOULD GET IT DOWN TO APPROXIMATELY HOW MUCH THEY INDICATED.
IT'S 130,000 WITH A DIFFERENCE.
UM, SO YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT MOVING THAT 5,000 FROM THE FIRE CODE FUNDS TO DO THE SUPPLEMENT? IS THAT WHAT YOU JUST SAID? WELL, WE'VE ALREADY DONE THAT.
I BELIEVE THE 5,000 THAT WE DO
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THE SUPPLEMENTAL FOR THAT, THAT'S CURRENT.THAT'S ALREADY CURRENTLY DONE.
BUT WHAT WE TALKING ABOUT IS PAYING FOR THE VEHICLE OUT OF THE FIRE CODE FUND.
COUNTY ATTORNEY ONLY HALF OF IT ONLY.
WELL, BUT IF WE'RE GOING TO USE THIS FIRE MARSHAL FOR NOTHING ELSE BUT FIRE MARSHALING, THEN THE WHOLE TRUCK WOULD BE PAID FOR OUT THE THAT.
BUT I WOULD ALSO NEED HIM TO HELP WITH THE FIRE INVESTIGATION AND BE THE HOME CALL SO WE COULD SO THE FIRE MARSHAL, YOU'VE GOT THE FIRE INVESTIGATION AND THE FIRE, THEY, THEY WERE A LOT HATS.
THEY DIDN'T MAKE THIS SIMPLE DID MOST NO, THEY WERE A LOT OF HATS.
AND WE HAVE TO CARRY EACH ONE OF THOSE CARRIED THEIR OWN CERTIFICATIONS THAT WE HAVE TO GET THE C HOURS EACH YEAR.
WELL I THOUGHT WHAT'S THE, WHAT'S THE JOB OF THE FIRE MARSH SIR? WHAT'S THE JOB OF THE FIRE MARSH? THE JOB OF FIRE MARSHAL.
WHAT, WHAT WOULD, IF YOU HAD TO PUT IT DOWN IN BLACK AND WHITE RIGHT NOW, WHAT WOULD YOU SAY YOUR JOB WOULD BE IN THIS COUNTY WOULD BE? ANY COUNTY.
THERE ARE SOME COUNTIES THAT DO NOT HAVE FIRE CODES AND THEY DO NOT BUILDING INSPECTIONS.
SO ALL THEIR FIRE MARSHALS DO IS INVESTIGATE FIRES, YOU KNOW, FOR ARSON RELATED FIRES OR CAUSE NORMAL.
SO AGAIN, INVESTIGATIVE FIRE, IT'S OKAY TO BUY THE CAR, BUT IF YOU DO INSPECTIONS AND THE CAR IS NOT OKAY, OR VICE VERSA, THE INSPECTIONS WOULD FALL.
THAT'S WHY, THAT'S WHY IT'S CONFUSING.
BUT I MEAN, I I WOULDN'T CALL THIS FIRE, THE FIRE INVESTIGATION SIDE HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE FIRE CODE.
UH, THE FIRE CODE IN THE CAR IS JUST FOR FIRE CODE.
YEAH, BUT WHICH ONE ARE THE FUND BASED? THE FUND WILL PAY HALF OF THEM BECAUSE OF THE VEHICLE.
BECAUSE A PORTION OF THAT VEHICLE IS BEING USED FOR PRIOR CODE FUNCTIONS AND A FUNCTION, A PORTION OF THAT USE OF THAT VEHICLE IS ALSO OUTSIDE OF FIRE BECAUSE IT LOOKS LIKE ASSUMING THAT ONLY HALF OF IT IS PAID FOR PRIOR CODE FUNDS, JOHN HUNDRED 10,000, I CAN'T HELP IT.
JOHN APPROVED UP TO YOU'RE IN THIS NOW.
JOHN LONG APPROVED UP TO 50% AND YOU HAVE TO HAVE FOUR WHEEL DRIVE VEHICLES.
THE FIRE SEASON, WHERE WE GO, WE OKAY.
HAVE USED THROUGHOUT THE YEARS AS WELL AS THE ENVIRONMENT AND YOU KNOW, THIS HAS BEEN A LONG DISCUSSION, BUT THIS IS A, THIS DEPARTMENT IS A, YOU KNOW, IS GOING TO CONTINUE TO GET, WE'VE GOT THREE DEPARTMENTS.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THAT ONE AT ONE TIME.
WERE ALL SET SUSTAIN, WE'RE ALL SEPARATE DEPARTMENTS.
SO WE COMBINED THEM AND I THINK WE'RE SEEING SOME EFFICIENCY OF SCALE THERE BY DOING THAT.
WE'RE, WE'RE COORDINATING WITH EACH OTHER.
WE'RE ASSISTING EACH OTHER BECAUSE WE'RE ALL SAME ROOF.
ALRIGHT, SO AS WE TRY TO WIND THIS DISCUSSION DOWN, UH, ARE WE OKAY WITH THE PERSONNEL THAT HE'S REQUESTED NOW? AND JIMMY, I THINK YOU WERE CONCERNED ABOUT THE PICKING UP THE TRASH AND SO WE COMMITMENT, I I'LL ADDRESS THAT.
TAKE CARE OF THAT ON THE ENVIRONMENTAL, ANYTHING THEY CAN PICK UP BY THEMSELVES.
AND THAT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING OF WE CAN GET 'EM ALL A TRAILER BEFORE HAVE THAT, HEY, THEY GOT A FOUR WHEEL DRIVE.
THEY, AND I'VE GOT A DUMP TRAILER THAT HOOK RIGHT ON THERE.
IT GOT FOUR OR FIVE OF THESE GUYS PUT 'EM IN ONE TRUCK.
YEAH, ENVIRONMENTAL FIXING HAVE CORRECT.
AND THE VEHICLES THAT, UH, WE CAN PAY FOR THE FIRE MARSHAL AND THE FIRE INSPECTOR HAD AND HAD WHATEVER IT'S, SO WHAT'S THE BOTTOM LINE? TOTAL INCREASE IN COST PER $110,000 FOR KWC FOR FOR TWO GUYS AND TWO VEHICLES.
ARE WE INCLUDING PUBLIC WORKS INTO THIS WHOLE MIXTURE? YES.
BUT THEY'RE, THEY'RE ALL EXCEPT BUDGETS.
THAT'S WHY I WAS TRYING TO KEEP SEPARATE COMBINE.
ALRIGHT, SO WHAT IT GOING DO FOR THE PUBLIC WORKS? LET'S TAKE A STEP A TIME.
WHAT'S THE INCREASE FOR PUBLIC WORKS? TOTAL WIDTH? TWO.
YOU GOT AN INSPECTOR AND A SECOND ONE, ONE VEHICLE.
WE GOTTA RESEARCH THE VEHICLE THOUGH.
IT WAS, YOU SAID WELL THOUGH, 85 THOUGH, UH, JUST FOR PUBLIC WORKS, UH, THE INCREASE WOULD BE ABOUT 86,086.
BUT THEN YOU'VE GOT A, IF YOU OFFSET IT WITH THE, THE SHORT REVENUE WELL FOR TWO, TWO EMPLOYEES IN THE VEHICLE.
WHICH CAUGHT THE INCREASE OF 86, CORRECT? CORRECT.
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NOT TAKING INTO ACCOUNT THE ADDITIONAL REVENUES THAT HE'S GENERATED OUT THE GENERAL FUND.WE CUT JUST GO BACK AND REVISIT THE FEES AND DUMP THEM TO 20 LL TAKE.
THAT'S WHAT I WAS GONNA PROPOSE.
AND I CAN DO THAT AT ANY COURT IF Y'ALL OKAY.
NOW GOING THAT, WOULD IT SLATE NOW FOR MARSHAL SIDE ASKING FOR $50,000 VEHICLE? YES.
APPROXIMATELY IT'S 40, 46, 55.
WELL YOU GOT UP TO 54 56, THEN YOU GET ALL THE LIGHTS THAT WE ALWAYS HAVE THE 10TH OF WINDOW AND GET EXTRA LIGHTS.
WELL THAT'S WHAT GUARD A CAMPER SERVICE.
AND THEY, THEY CAN THROW OUT SOMETHING BRIAN BEAVERS TOLD ME YESTERDAY THAT EAST OFF THE BOAT OVER AT THE CITY OF CARROLL AND THEY FOUND A, UH, A UH, A NEW PROGRAM WHERE, UH, THE DEALER WILL LEASE A PICKUP, A FIRE, NOT A FIRE, BUT A, A UH, PURSUIT WRECK.
THEY'LL LEASE IT FOR THREE YEARS AND THEN THEY'LL GUARANTEE YOU IF THE TRUCK'S NOT WRECK OR SOMETHING.
A $10,000 TRA AND UH, LL I THINK LOOKING AT AND SO THAT'S WHAT I THINK BRIAN WILL HAVE MORE INFORMATION ON IT, WHICH SOUNDS PRETTY INTRIGUING.
BUT IF, IF EVER, EVER EVERYBODY HAS ONE OF THOSE, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE NOW WE GOT 80 EMPLOYEES AND 90 VEHICLES THAT THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT, SOME OF THOSE, THEY DON'T PUT ON THOUSAND MILES A MONTH, YOU KNOW, 1500 MILES A MONTH.
SO IF, IF YOU HAD A VEHICLE FOR THAT POSITION, YOU OUGHT TO BE ABLE TO GET WAY MORE THAN, SO IT DEPENDS ON THE USAGE OF IT.
IF THEY, IF THEY ROTATED PEOPLE IN, IN THESE VEHICLES, YOU KNOW, WHERE THEY KEPT THEM ON SERVICE AT LEAST TWO OUT OF THREE SHIFT, YOU KNOW, THAT WOULD BE A GOOD DEAL.
BUT WHEN YOU HAVE ONE FOR EVERYBODY, THAT THAT DEAL WILL BE SO HOT.
WELL AND I, I WISH I HADN'T EVEN MENTIONED IT BECAUSE I JUST KNOW ENOUGH ABOUT IT.
BUT I MEAN IT'S SOMETHING TO LOOK INTO AND I THINK BRIAN TERRIBLE WAS LOOKING AT IT.
WE'LL KEEP OUR ALSO I THINK THE AVERAGE TURNAROUND FROM THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE ABOUT TWO OR THREE YEARS.
I THINK IT DEPENDS MORE ON WHAT WE CAN AFFORD.
FIRE MARSH, NOT NECESSARILY THE VEHICLE THAT I'M, UH, TRYING TO REPLACE RIGHT NOW.
IT'S A REPLACEMENT VEHICLE BY THE WAY.
STOP GETTING THIS NEW VEHICLE IS IS IN ESSENCE A REPLACEMENTS BECAUSE WE HAVE ONE IN OUR FLEET THAT WOULD COST US.
IT'S A 2005 POINT THAT WE CAN'T EVEN KEEP SO MANY CODE PULL.
WE GONNA TALK ABOUT THAT? YEAH, WE CAN.
THAT'D BE THE TIME TO GO AHEAD AND DO IT.
I MEAN THIS IS A PRETTY GOOD INCREASE.
WHEREAS WE'RE PROJECTED RIGHT NOW AT THE UH, 200, 2 50 9,000 COMPLETE PUT ON PROJECTIONS.
UH, ACTUALLY I WOULD ANTICIPATE IF OUR GROWTH CONTINUES AT THE RATE THAT IT'S COUNTY IS PROBABLY GONNA BE, AGAIN, IT'S JUST A OBJECTION BASED UPON THE OBJECTION.
WELL ESPECIALLY YOU SAID THAT WE'RE BELOW WHAT? 20? I MEAN, YOU KNOW ABOUT ANY PLACE YOU GO, THERE'S NO ONE ELSE IN 25 FEET.
I MEAN, YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? I KNOW OF BECAUSE BIG I I I DON'T HAVE, I THINK WE'RE OUTTA GO AHEAD AND MAYBE KAREN AND UH, LOOK AT THAT.
EVERYBODY OKAY? OKAY KAREN, WE WILL NEED TO GET WITH, UH, RANDY AND LOOK AT THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT GOING FROM $10 TO $20 WE GENERATED AND THAT SHOULD OFFSET THE COST OF BOTH OF WHAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR OVERALL THREE PARTNER.
THAT JUST NEVER WORKS THE WAY YOU PLAN.
ALRIGHT, GOING BACK TO THE FIRE MARSHAL SIDE.
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ONE EMPLOYEE IN ONE VEHICLE.CORRECT? WHAT, WHAT'S THE TOTAL ESTIMATED INCREASE THOSE TWO FOR THE MARSHAL FOR PUBLIC WORKS? NO, FIRE MARSHAL.
IF YOU'RE GONNA HAVE IT, YOU'RE GONNA BE LOOKING AT UH, ABOUT 24,003.
PARDON? IF YOU'RE GONNA HALF IT, HALF IS IN PUBLIC WORKS, HALF IS ENVIRONMENTAL.
ABOUT 24,000 PLUS THE SOCIAL SECURITY AND RETIREMENT.
THIS IS JUST A FIRE MARSHALL HERE.
WE TALKED ABOUT IT, BUT WE'RE NOT DOING THAT.
WE'RE GOING GO BACK WITH A FULL TIME FIRE MARSH.
DON'T, I THINK HE CAN COME UP WITH A PLAN GOES OUT PERHAPS MAYBE AFTER LUNCH WE CAN GET Y'ALL UP HERE CLOSER.
SO WE DON'T HAVE THE COMMUNICATION ISSUE.
WELL WITH THE, THE ADDITIONAL PERSON AND THE ADDITIONAL, UH, VEHICLE, ASSUMING HALF IS GONNA BE PAID OUT OF THE FIRE COAT FUNDS BILL, YOU'RE LOOKING AT ABOUT 73,000 PLUS BENEFITS AND THEN WE'RE REDUCING THE 16,000 THAT HE HAD IN FOR PART-TIME HELP THOUGHT THAT REDUCING IT THAT WAS IN PUBLIC WORKS.
SO THEN YOU'LL HAVE FOUR TIMES, FOUR TIMES.
I'M NOT, I'M NOT CONSIDERING MYSELF BECAUSE I, BECAUSE OF ALL, YOU KNOW WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT.
YOU KNOW, I, WE LOST A PERSON WHEN I TOOK OVER ALL THREE DEPARTMENTS.
THOSE ARE NOT MY INTENTIONS AT ALL FROM THE GET GO.
BUT IN REALITY, UH, I PROBABLY HAVE ONLY DONE SIX OR EIGHT FULL REPORTS FOR THAT DEPARTMENT REPORTS.
I SAY LET'S WAIT UNTIL OUR TAX NUMBERS COME IN TO DECIDE ON THIS FARM MARSHAL CONDITION VEHICLE.
THEY NEED A REPLACEMENT VEHICLE, YOU KNOW, THAT WE REPLACING.
AND UH, THE REPLACEMENT VEHICLE AND THE UH, ENVIRONMENTAL IN ESSENCE THAT WOULD BE A REPLACEMENT ALSO.
I KNOW WE HAVE AN ADDITIONAL PERSON I A REQUEST ADDITIONAL THAT WILL ALLOW US, WE JUST GOT, YOU KNOW, SHERIFF'S OFFICE BEEN, THEY JUST SAVED BUT STILL SEVERAL THOUSAND DOLLARS.
WELL, AND THAT, AND THAT'S SOMETHING ELSE WE GONNA LOOK AT OUR VEHICLE POLICY, YOU KNOW, TOO PORTION BE YEAH.
AND AND MAYBE VEHICLE MAINTENANCE'S A CHARGE OF THE VEHICLE POLICY.
SO WHAT I'M, I'M THOROUGHLY CONFUSED NOW.
SO WE TALKED ABOUT THREE OR FOUR DIFFERENT, WE SUCCEEDED THEN.
COMMISSIONER SAYS THEY SOLD UP ON THE FIRE MARSHAL UNTIL WE SEE WHAT OUR TAX REVENUE LOOKS LIKE.
UH, THAT WAS AFTER THE STATEMENT WAS MADE THAT WE AGREED THAT WE, THREE OF US WOULD BE OKAY WITH ADDING 10 TO THE FEE THAT COVER IT.
IN THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE YES, OUR MARSHALL'S OFFICE AS COMPARED TO OTHER CITIES AND COUNTIES WE'RE WAY DOWN.
FIRE MARSHAL WILL HOLD UP ON THEN.
IS EVERYBODY OKAY WITH THAT? IS THAT BOTH REQUESTS? THE PUBLIC WORKS? IS THAT BOTH REQUESTS OF THE, FOR THE VEHICLE AND THE POSITION OR JUST THE POSITION THAT'S BEING CALLED? YEAH, BUT IF YOU DON'T ADD AN ADDITIONAL EMPLOYEE, YOU WON'T NEED AN ADDITIONAL VEHICLE.
THAT OLD CAR, THE ONE I'M TRYING TO REPLACE, THAT CAR'S GOTTA GO ON THE FIRE MARSHAL SIDE.
I THOUGHT YOU WAS TALKING ABOUT PUBLIC FIRE, MARSHALL, WHATEVER.
WE WERE ADDING A CLERK IN THE FIRE MARSHAL.
SO WE'RE JUST HOLDING UP ON THE FIRE MARSHAL.
WE LET'S GO AHEAD AND ADD IT THEN WE CAN ALWAYS SUBTRACT IT AND GET ALL OUR TOTAL DOLLARS.
WE'VE ALREADY, WHAT DO YOU SAY,
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I, I'M NOT IN FIRE.SOMEBODY NEEDS BED AND A PORTION OF OUR ALSO COMES OUT FIRE PIT.
NOT WE CAN TAKE JACK'S SUGGESTION.
WE ADD ANY OUR NUMBERS OR CUTTING.
OKAY, SO THE PUBLIC WORKS, WE'RE GOING TO HIRE AN ADDITIONAL UH, SANITARIUM YES.
AND THEN IN WHAT'S THE OTHER ONE? ENVIRONMENTAL OFFICER WOULD BE ONE DEPUTY.
THE IN THE FIRE PORTION OF WOULD BE PAID FOR OUTTA THE FIRE CODE.
AND THE ENVIRONMENTAL, WE'RE DOING WHAT ONE PERSON SERVE TWO PURPOSES.
FIRST OFF, BOTH OF MY DEPUTIES THAT ARE USING ENVIRONMENTAL ARE YOUR KNOWLEDGE OF WHAT IT TAKES.
SO THAT'S THE
TRY TO PULL SOMEBODY IN OFF THE STREETS AND JUST SAY GO HERE.
BUT I LEARNED, EVEN LEARNED EVEN MORE.
UM, WE HAD A
AND IN THAT DISCUSSION WE TALKED ABOUT MONEY AND BECAUSE WE TALKED ABOUT MONEY AND THE AMOUNT.
JUST GETTING A LITTLE BACKGROUND.
LAURA, I CAN'T HEAR ANYTHING YOU'RE SAYING.
I NEED TO KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON.
WANT YOU GUYS TO MOVE UP HERE? NO, YOU HAVE PEOPLE TALKING AND I CAN'T HEAR IT.
WELL AFTER DURING LUNCH WE'RE GONNA MOVE Y'ALL UP HERE SO YOU CAN, OKAY, THANK YOU.
BEFORE I JUST, ARE YOU GOOD? UH, THE JUVENILE PROBATION HAS ALWAYS PLACED CHILDREN THAT HAVE BEEN DETAINED, WHICH IS THE SAME AS PLACED IN CUSTODY WHEN WE SAY DETENTION IN HUNT COUNTY JUVENILE DETENTION.
BECAUSE WHEN Y'ALL SAY, OH, WHY CAN'T WE PLACE THEM IN KAUFMAN IN THE SO MUCH EXPENSE CREATING A JUVENILE DETENTION CENTER WITH CHILDREN UNDER THE AGE OF 17 DIFFERENT AND SHE WASN'T SCHEDULED TODAY.
WE HAD A MEETING THIS MORNING AT CASE AND IT WASN'T AN EMERGENCY BECAUSE SHE PLANNED AHEAD, BUT IT IS NOW CLOSED.
SO, UM, IT, WE STARTED NEGOTIATING A CONTRACT WITH DALLAS COUNTY BACK IN FEBRUARY BECAUSE, AND I'M SPEAKING LOUDLY SO THAT SHE COULD HEAR ME.
UM, SO, SO WE WERE ALREADY IN THIS PROCESS.
SO I DON'T KNOW THE, SO UM, IT, THIS MORNING WHEN WE WERE DISCUSSING IT, THIS IS GONNA MEAN A LITTLE BIT OF AN INCREASE IN OUR DETENTION BUDGET.
UM, HUNT COUNTY, WE PREPAID FOR DETENTION BEDS.
UM, WE HAVE AVERAGED ANYWHERE FROM THREE TO THREE AND A HALF KIDS PER DAY.
THAT'S WHAT WE'VE BEEN AVERAGING.
BUT DALLAS COUNTY CHARGES MORE PER DAY.
NOW LET ME JUST TELL YOU, THERE IS NOWHERE ELSE TO GO.
OKAY? THIS IS THE PLACE TO GO.
UM, WELL IF SOMEONE, THERE'S, THERE'S VAN, BUT WE HAVE KIDS IN VAN BUT THEY'RE NOT BIG ENOUGH TO TAKE ALL OF OUR KIDS.
AND WHAT WE WANT IS A CONTRACT BECAUSE WE CAN'T LOCK UP KIDS THAT NEED TO BE LOCKED UP TO PROTECT THE COMMUNITY, THEN WE'RE NOT DOING OUR NUMBER ONE JOB.
AND SO IT'S MY JOB TO BE SURE THAT WE HAVE A FACILITY THAT WE KNOW KIDS WILL BE SAFE IN AND THAT WE KNOW IS GONNA BE AVAILABLE TO US.
SO WE HAVE NEGOTIATED WITH DALLAS COUNTY FOR A CONTRACT.
THEY HAVE SENT US THE CONTRACT.
MY JUVENILE BOARD HAS APPROVED IT.
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PER DAY.IF WE PURCHASE THE SAME AMOUNT OF BED SPACE THAT WE'VE BEEN PURCHASING, WHICH IS FOUR A DAY FOR 365, 4 BEDS A DAY FOR 365 DAYS, IT WILL BE AN INCREASE OF 43,000.
SO THAT'S THE INCREASE FOR DETENTION THAT I'M MISSING BEFORE.
SO LET'S BACK UP A LITTLE BIT ONTO THAT BECAUSE THE ONLY REASON I'M FAMILIAR IS VICTIM'S BAD NEWS.
SHE DID THE MATH LAST YEAR BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT THE BOARD ASKED HER, THE JUVENILE COURT THIS MORNING AND SAID HOW MUCH HAVE WE REALLY ACTUALLY USED? AND THE TRUTH IS, ON AVERAGE SHE'S GOT AN AVERAGE NUMBER WHERE WE MIGHT HAVE USED THREE AND A HALF.
SO THAT MEANT A HALF OF BED A MONTH.
WE WERE PAYING FOR, WE DIDN'T USE DALLAS IS A USE BASIS EVEN THOUGH IT'S $25 MORE.
BUT I THINK TO BE PRUDENT AND THE BOARD WAS RECOMMENDING TO Y'ALL THAT WE SHOULD HAVE THE 43 EIGHTH THERE OR 45, YOU KNOW, THE REAL MAP IS 43 8 IN CASE WE GO UP.
UH, RIGHT NOW WE, WE HAVE KIDS HOW MANY KIDS? TWO PLATE RIGHT NOW WE ONLY HAVE TWO DETENTION RIGHT NOW, BUT FOR THE THREE C3 MONTHS WE HAD SIX WHO HAD SIX HAVE THE COMMON CASES THAT YOU CANNOT.
YEAH, THOSE ARE NOT CAPITAL MURDER.
WE HAVE CAPITAL MURDER, AGGRAVATED SEXUAL ASSAULT MILL PHARMACY INVOLVED THAT DIDN'T AND THE SERIOUSNESS OF THE CRIME IS GOING SO WE TO BE APPEARED.
HE'S ONE OF THE FOUR THAT THERE.
UM, AND WE HAVE SENT OUT INFORMATION.
EVERYBODY'S AWARE OF WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO.
THE DALLAS COUNTY CONTRACT WOULD NOT START UNTIL JULY 1ST.
AND I THINK WE HAVE ENOUGH FUNDING IN OUR DETENTION LINE ITEM RIGHT NOW TO FINISH OUT THE YEAR.
BUT STARTING WITH OUR NEW BUDGET, I WILL BE ASKING MY JUVENILE BOARD TO APPROVE A BUDGET THAT HAS THE 43 A IN IT FOR
AND I ALSO WANT TO ASK FOR PARTIAL SALARY FOR A THERAPIST.
SO THE BOTTOM LINE OF WHAT I'M GONNA BE ASKING IN MY BUDGET WHEN I PRESENT IT TO THE JUVENILE BOARD WOULD BE $70,000 ACRE OVER WHAT WE HAD THIS YEAR.
SHE DOESN'T SHOW UP OFTEN, BUT WHEN SHE SAID SHE WANTED MORE MONEY, WE, I INVITED HER TO COME
THAT WAS THE REASON WE TAKE THE HITS TOO.
AND THERE'S NO OFFSETTING WITH HER.
PART OF NO PART OF THE ISSUE IS WHEN WE, WHEN WE START TAKING HIS TO DALLAS COUNTY, IT IS MORE PER DAY.
UH, IT WON'T BE PROBABLY MORE THAN WHAT WE SPENT IN THE PAST, BUT IT COULD BE, WE NEED TO BE PREPARED FOR THAT.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE WANT TO DO IS HAVE A PROGRAM AVAILABLE FOR THE CHRONIC VIOLATOR THAT WE CURRENTLY WILL DETAIN FOR TWO OR THREE DAYS.
AND BY VIOLATOR I MEAN A CHILD WHO VIOLATES CURFEW DOESN'T GO TO SCHOOL, UM, GETS IN SHOUTING MATCHES WITH MOM.
THEY'RE INFRACTIONS OF THE COURT ORDER, BUT THEY'RE NOT SOMETHING HE WOULD BE REARRESTED FOR.
BUT PUTTING THEM IN DETENTION IS NOT A BEST USE OF OUR MONEY.
I WOULD RATHER TAKE THOSE KIDS, PUT THEM INTO A PROGRAM WHERE WE HAVE FAMILY THERAPIST WHO WORKS WITH THE FAMILY.
SO THAT'S WHY I'M TRYING TO ADD THIS POSITION FOR A LICENSED COUNSELOR.
I'M LOOKING AT MY MONEY, I MOVE MY MONEY AROUND.
I DON'T NEED ALL THE FUNDING FOR THAT 'CAUSE I CAN DO SOME MONEY AROUND, MOVE SOME PEOPLE AROUND.
BUT THAT'S WHY I'M ASKING FOR THE 20 16TH.
AND I THINK THIS HAS BEEN KIND OF LONG OVERDUE BECAUSE THERE WERE SO MANY CHANGES AND YOU MAY OR MAY NOT AGREE WITH THIS, WITH SCHOOL USED TO KIDS HAD PROBLEMS IN SCHOOL.
UH, THEY GET INVOLVED BY THESE ADMINISTRATORS NOW THESE KIDS ARE PUT IN ALTERNATIVE SCHOOLS AND THEN EVERYTHING SEEMS TO HAVE BEEN PUSHED BACK TO LAW ENFORCEMENT.
SO IF YOU GOT A KID THAT YOU GOT THAT'S NOT IN THAT PROBLEM, WHEN YOU'VE GOT THE SCHOOL INTERVENTION, IT BECOMES A A GOVERNMENT PROBLEM WHERE UH, THE PARENTS CAN'T AFFORD, THEY DON'T HAVE INSURANCE FOR COUNSELING.
BUT YOU GOT A KID THAT'S NOT BAD ENOUGH TO BE IN DETENTION BUT THEY DON'T WANNA DEAL WITH THE SCHOOL AND YOU GOT SEND PARENTS THAT CAN'T CONTROL IT.
AND I SAY HIM IT CAN BE HURT BECAUSE SOME OF THOSE HERS CAN BE JUST AS PROBLEMATIC.
SO WE'VE GOT THIS VOID AND WE KIND OF PUT IT OFF, UH, LOOKING AT IT AND, AND NOW THAT NOT THE JUDGE AND THE DA I'M ALWAYS AGREE WITH LAURA BECAUSE SHE'S LOOKING AT THE WHOLE PICTURE.
I'M WORKING LOOKING AT MORE FROM LAW ENFORCEMENT.
BUT IF WE COULD STOP 'EM BEFORE THEY GET ON THIS SERIOUS CRIME WAVE WHERE THERE'S NOTHING DO, THIS MIGHT BE A STEP AND YOU KNOW, WE MIGHT WITH THAT MONEY, IT MIGHT END UP JUST ALL GOING TO STAY IN THE GENERAL PLANNER ON ABORTION BEING USED.
BUT SHE'S ONLY ASKING FOR 2016.
SHE DIDN'T EVEN USE WHAT EVEN THE EXTRA WOULD BE.
BUT I TOLD HER AND THE OTHER BOARD MEMBERS THAT WERE THERE, THE JUDGES SAID, LET THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT KNOW THAT BIG TOTAL.
'CAUSE IT MAY NOT BE THAT SHE USED IT, BUT IF YOU DO, YOU DON'T WANT COME IN THE MIDDLE OF YEAR ASKING FOR MONEY BECAUSE IT'S
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REALLY NOT AN EMERGENCY.AND I'VE DONE THIS MANY, MANY YEARS DOWN.
I'VE NEVER HAD TO COME BACK AND ASK FOR ANOTHER AND I DON'T WANNA HAVE TO DO THAT.
SO I'M JUST TRYING TO BE VERY RESPONSIBLE AND, AND LET YOU KNOW WHAT I THINK WE'RE GONNA NEED.
UM, IF WE DON'T NEED IT, IT'S, THAT'S GREAT.
BUT, UM, I I'M JUST ASKING FOR AN INCREASED, WELL DALLAS IS BETTER 'CAUSE IT'S A PAID USE OR YOU TO PAY IF THERE'S A MOTIVATION THERE TO NOT LOCK UP KIDS.
I MEAN, BUT IT IS A GOOD THING.
BUT IF WE, IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE IT'S HAND IN GLOVE.
THE COUNSELOR HELPS US KEEP DRIVING COSTS DOWN.
IF YOU CAN ACTUALLY SAY, WELL I'M GONNA ORDER HIM THE COUNSELING JUDGE, WE CAN RELEASE HIM.
UH, AND THEN WE'LL SEE WHAT HAPPENS THEN IF HE MESSES UP WE CAN PUT HIM IN DETENTION SO IT, IT KIND OF GOES TOGETHER.
BUT HE'S GOT A TAG ON US AND IT'S NOT MY DEPARTMENT.
DAVE? UM, I'M THE, THE NEW POSITION LAURA UHHUH, WOULD THAT BE PARTIALLY FUNDED BY THE STATE OR IS THAT A HUNDRED PERCENT CORRECT? NO, IT'S A HUNDRED PERCENT COUNTY THE STATE.
WE'RE NOT GETTING ANY NEW FUNDING FROM THE STATE THIS YEAR.
BUT SHE THINKS SHE CAN DO SOME PLAN WITH SOME NUMBERS.
I THINK I HAVE A PART-TIME POSITION.
I'M PLANNING TO MOVE SOME OF THAT MONEY AND NOT USE.
I JUST HOW MUCH DO YOU, HOW MUCH DOES, HOW MUCH DO YOU HAVE A PART-TIME YOU? OH NO.
BUT I'LL COME TO YOU WHEN IT'S CONVENIENT FOR YOU AND I'LL GIVE YOU ALL OF OUR CURRENT SALARIES AND THEN I'LL BE SURE THAT I GET WITH YOU AND YOU DO THE FRINGES.
'CAUSE I MESSED UP BAD LAST YEAR.
ONE OF THE SESSIONS I ATTENDED RECENT MEETING IS THE FUNDING FOR JUVENILE PROBATION ACROSS THE STATE.
THERE IS NOBODY THAT REALLY KNOWS WHY THE MONEY FLOWS, HOW IT FLOWS BY COUNTY.
I MEAN THAT'S WHAT THE STATE GOT SAID.
I MEAN THAT'S ALL YOU KNOW, THERE REALLY NO CRIME OR REASON HOW THE MONEY, IT'S BASED ON A LOT OF OLD DATA REFERRALS AND, AND POPULATION AND HOW MUCH YOU'VE SPENT IN THE PAST.
SOME COUNTIES NEVER PLACE A CHILD.
SO THEY'RE, THEY'RE TRYING NOT TO CHANGE IT SO MUCH THAT PEOPLE HAVE TO DRASTICALLY A CHANGE WHAT THEY OFFER LESS THAN WHAT THEY'VE BEEN DOING BECAUSE THAT ENCOURAGES PEOPLE TO, TO COMMIT CHILDREN MORE.
I MEAN SEE THAT'S SUCH THE GOVERNMENT WAY WE'RE GONNA GIVE YOU IF YOU USE ALL YOUR MONEY UP CONFERENCE ABOUT THAT NUMBER BECAUSE LIKE IT MADE NO SENSE.
THERE'S NO WAY NUMBER THE STATE THAT'S THE SAME THEY GAVE THE EXPLANATION WAS THAT THEY SAID THEY'D LIKE TO KEEP IT ABOUT THE SAME WE RECEIVED FROM THE STATE, JUST SO YOU KNOW, $528,230 AND OUR CURRENT REVENUE FROM THE COUNTY IS 500 3530 6,438.
SO IT'S ALMOST A 50 50 COUNTY STATE.
AND THAT NUMBER HAS GONE LIKE IT USED TO BE MORE WAY MORE COUNTY.
SO WHAT THEY'RE DOING IS THEY'RE PUSHING ALL COUNTY.
WELL, YOU KNOW, WHEN THEY ALL GO IN AND BRAG ABOUT HOW MUCH ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF THEM DOING THAT.
ALRIGHT, ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR LAURA? ARE WE OKAY? NO, WE'RE GOOD.
THANK YOU VERY, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
APPRECIATE YOU GETTING THOSE KIDS OVER IN COUNTY WHEN UN COUNTY KICKS US OUT.
WELL I TELL YOU, THERE'S NO GOOD, WE NOT HERE NEED TO LOCK UP A CHILD AND NOT HAVE A PLACE TO CARE BECAUSE THAT'S YOUR, THAT'S OUR JOB.
HE JUST, WE SAID SHE WAS ASKING FOR MONEY.
RIGHT? WELL WE DIDN'T HAVE A NUMBER TO GIVE.
THE BOARD JUST MET THIS MORNING.
I MEAN WE ONLY HAVE RIGHT, AND THE ONLY TIME I DON'T, I COULDN'T TELL YOU ABOUT THAT BUT I THINK THE ONLY REASON IS 'CAUSE THEY SAY SO STATIC, NOTHING EVER CHANGES BUT THEY ARE DIFFERENT AND PROBABLY HAVE TO MAYBE BE INCLUDED IN THE FUTURE BECAUSE THEY DON'T NEED AS MANY STATE FUNDS.
I MEAN THEY JUST, THEY REALLY, IT'S GONNA CHANGE.
BUT WE WOULD GET, WE WILL GET A COPY EVERYBODY.
I WISH WE COULD GET THE SAME AMOUNT OF MONEY FOR FEDERAL PRISONERS CHARGE BECAUSE YOU KNOW, I TALKED TO A PERSON, I DON'T, YOU KNOW, WE WISH WE COULD GET THE SAME AMOUNT OF MONEY FEDERAL.
I KNOW THAT WE'RE FOR OH HOW MUCH DO THEY CHARGE? WE RECEIVING $55 AND WE'RE PAYING A HUNDRED.
BUT, BUT I MEAN DOWN IN SOME, I DON'T REMEMBER WHERE IT IS NOW THAT I WAS TALKING TO THEM AT THE CONFERENCE AND THEY'RE GETTING LIKE HUNDRED 60
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FROM THE FED ON THE CONTRACT FOR JUVENILES.WELL LET JUST TELL YOU THIS ABOUT JUVENILES BECAUSE OF REQUIREMENTS OF JUVENILES AS OPPOSED TO AN ADULT, IT'S, THERE'S JUST MORE SERVICES YOU HAVE TO PROVIDE YOU.
I'M TO WATCH THOSE KIDS LITERALLY ON, I MEAN YOU HAVE TO DO CHECKS.
AND SO EVERY TIME YOU GO FURTHER BACK, IT'S LIKE A CPS PLACEMENT.
A KID THAT'S PLACED OUT AT THE, UH, EMERGENCY SHELTER.
I CAN'T TELL YOU IN RAW DOLLAR COMMENTS.
AND THEN YOU GET SICK KIDS MORE.
SO THE FURTHER YOU GO DOWN THAT LIFECYCLE, IT COSTS YOU MORE.
IT WOULDN'T COME OUT ON THE, AND WE LOSE NO BUILDING A FACILITY.
'CAUSE PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT.
'CAUSE YOU NORMALLY THINK, WELL WHY DON'T JUST PLACE THE KIDS WHERE THE ADULTS ARE YOU.
I MEAN IT'S, IT'S, IT'S JUST AGAINST THE LAW AND BUILDING A FACILITY THAT'S MM-HMM
AND HUNTER JUST GOT OUTTA THE BUSINESS.
BUT I THINK THEIR PICK FROM IS THEY DIDN'T KEEP EVERYBODY INFORMED BECAUSE THEY ALREADY HAD A MODEL AND THEY PROBABLY COULD HAVE BROUGHT PEOPLE ON BECAUSE INSTEAD THEY ROLLED BACK AND THEY MISSED THE TIDE.
YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? 'CAUSE IF THEY COME TO KAUFMAN AND SAID AT 115 YOU GOTTA GO UP TO FIVE BEDS, WE'D PROBABLY DONE IT.
'CAUSE WE'RE ACTUALLY GONNA SAVE MONEY BECAUSE GONNA BE RUNNING, THEY, THEY DON'T HAVE A PLACE TO PLACE THEIR KIDS.
THE COMMISSIONERS DIDN'T KNOW.
THE ONLY PEOPLE KNEW THINK HE WAS IT.
SHE EVEN SAID THAT THE ONLY PEOPLE JUDGE HORN TOLD ME, JUDGE HORN TOLD ME THE ONLY PEOPLE THAT KNEW IT WOULD BE LIKE, Y'ALL READ THE PAPER AND LIKE, OH, KAMAN COUNTY JUVENILE FACILITY IS CLOSED.
LIKE WELL I WISH SOMEBODY TOLD ME.
UH, SO WE'RE NOW ON DISTRICT ATTORNEYS.
THE ONLY THING I TELL YOU GUYS, AND I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S A CALLED A WISHLIST, I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE ON OUR CIVIL PERSON, THE ONLY THING I WROTE IN WAS THAT HER SALARY IS IN THERE.
EVEN THOUGH WE'RE DOING HER AT 30 HOURS.
IT'S NOT ME THAT MADE HER GO LATE.
UH, I THINK THAT'S ALREADY BEEN BUDGETED.
I THINK THAT WAS ALREADY BUDGETED, BUT I WASN'T SURE THAT NINE FIVE ALREADY BUDGETED.
WELL THAT COMMISSIONER FORD, WE WERE, THERE WAS SOME LAG MAN BETWEEN UH, JOHN'S, WHATEVER JOHN LEFT I THINK, I DON'T REMEMBER.
THERE'S, THERE WERE SOME SAVINGS WHERE YOU DIDN'T HIRE AN ATTORNEY AS FAST AS MM-HMM
WE NEED TO GO THROUGH AND UH, WE'LL NEED TO DO AN AMENDMENT, I GUESS NOT AN AMENDMENT BUT A MAY HAVE TO DO AN AMENDMENT.
AM I RIGHT? WE'VE ALREADY DONE A LOT OF THEM TRANSFER.
WE NEED TRANSFER, WE'RE COVERED.
BUT, BUT THAT ONLY INCREASES TO 57.
AND THAT'S JUST TO GET THROUGH RIGHT.
THE THEME THAT IS HERE AND THAT'S IN AND AND WHAT I'M SAYING IS THAT'S OUR ARRANGEMENT.
WE DID A 30 HOUR ARRANGEMENT THAT IS THE RIGHT SALARY.
I'M JUST SAYING YOU GUYS THAT WE HAD APPROVED FOR A FULL POSITION UP TO NINE FIVE.
I THOUGHT NOW MAYBE WE DIDN'T INTEREST YEAH, WE DID.
AND I DON'T KNOW WHY THE MONEY WASN'T MOVED BECAUSE IT'S APPROVED.
BECAUSE IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE DISCUSSED LATER THAT YOU WERE GOING BRING IT BACK AND TOLD HIM, YEAH, I NEED SOME MONEY.
AND IT WOULD BE FOR NEXT YEAR.
BUT IT WOULD BE, I'M JUST SAYING IT'S NOT, I COVERED, WE COVERED ENOUGH FOR THIS YEAR MM-HMM
THAT'S WHY, YOU KNOW, SHE HADN'T BEEN HERE THE WHOLE YEAR SO WE'RE NOT GONNA PAY HER 95,000.
SO THAT'S THE NEW BUDGET WOULD START WITH NINE FIVE.
AND ALSO, AND I ALSO WANNA SAY THAT OUR ARRANGEMENT THOUGH, SO YOU'LL KNOW IS TO STAY UP WITH THE 30.
WE'RE JUST GONNA MAKE SURE THAT IT WORKS FOR US.
I THINK SHE WANTS TO GO FULL-TIME.
I THINK I WANT HER TO GO FULL TIME.
BUT SHE'S HAD PRACTICE AND SHE'S HAD PRIVATE PRACTICE FOR MANY YEARS AND SO WE'RE JUST BOTH SMART.
I CAN SAY, LET'S JUST JUMP INTO THIS, BUT I DON'T WANT BE IN A POSITION TO OFFER FOR HER JOB AND THE MONEY'S NOT THERE.
SHE'S A 30 HOUR EMPLOYEE RIGHT NOW.
WHICH DOESN'T MEAN WE DO NOT PAY THE UH, UH, INSURANCE.
SO WHAT DOES SHE NOT GET? SHE'S MAKE LIFE INSURANCE FOR VACATION ESTATE.
SO BUT YOU ARE ASKING THAT WE BUDGET 95,000 THOUSAND WITH THE IDEA THAT SHE WOULD COME ON FULL TIME.
IF SHE DOESN'T THEN I MEAN I DON'T, I'M NOT GONNA USE IT FOR ANYBODY ELSE.
THAT'S 'CAUSE SHE HAS HER OWN THAT OWN SEPARATE LINE ITEM.
ONLY IF IT WAS APPROVED BY COMMISSIONER'S COURT.
COULD I MOVE THAT OUT OF, UH, OUT OF 12.
IS REBECCA'S IN A SEPARATE OR IN THERE? REBECCA IS WITH, UH, ASSISTANT DAS.
SO THAT'S REAL EASY TO SEE WHAT THAT
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IS.ALRIGHT, LET ME ASK YOU A, A POINTED QUESTION.
UH, REBECCA SERVES AS YOU KNOW, AS THE OFFICIAL, UH, COMMISSIONER'S COURT ATTORNEY.
SHE WAS, SHE'S THE PERSON THAT WE RELY ON YES.
UH, WITH THE ADDITION OF THIS PART-TIME PERSON THAT IS TAKING JOHN'S PLACE.
WILL REBECCA BE TOTALLY OUR ATTORNEY OR WOULD SHE BE USED FOR OTHER PURPOSES? AND I ASK THIS, UH, BECAUSE SOMETIMES WHEN, YOU KNOW, I KNOW REBECCA HAS GOT A LOT OF STUFF GOING ON MM-HMM
BUT SHE ALSO I THINK TRIES CASES ON SOME CPS CASES OR MAYBE A GI DON'T KNOW, UH, WILL THAT CONTINUE OR WILL SHE BE DEDICATED FULL TIME TO US? YOU KNOW, AND THAT'S INTERESTING.
I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW HER TO HAVE A CPS CASELOAD.
I KNOW IF, UH, AND THAT'S SOMETHING I NEED TO DOUBLE CHECK.
I DON'T MISREPRESENT ANYTHING.
AND ANDREW BACKS HER UP AND ANDREW DOES JUVENILE.
BUT IF SOMEBODY'S ON VACATION OR SOMETHING BECAUSE THEY'RE ALL CIVIL, EVEN THOUGH THAT TO ME IS A QUASI CRIMINAL CIVIL CPS.
'CAUSE YOU'RE INVOLVED VIOLENT ACCIDENTS CHILDREN OR THE JUVENILES ARE COMMITTED, BUT IT'S CIVIL RULES AND PROCEDURE.
HER COMMITMENT WILL BE TO COMMISSIONER'S COURT AND TO ASSIST KAREN.
WHICH IS REALLY KIND OF WHERE I'M GOING WITH.
I THINK THAT WHERE WE NEED TO REALLY GO, UM, IS TO MAKE SURE WE CAN, I THINK WE'VE GOTTA HAVE THE STAFF TO DO HER OWN LITIGATION.
I'M GONNA SIT DOWN AND CAST AND TRY TO TAKE EVEN MORE ON THAT LITIGATION AND REDUCE OUR, OUR OUR COSTS ON OUTSIDE COUNSEL.
'CAUSE I THINK KAREN, AFTER BEING WITH HER, I MEAN I HIRED HER THINKING SHE COULD DO IT AND I'M, I'M IMPRESSED WITH WHAT SHE CAN DO.
SHE SEEMS TO SO WE NEED TO NEED TO.
AND AND SHE'S GOT A DIFFERENT MANNER, BUT IT'S REALLY EFFECTIVE.
I MEAN, SHE'S NOT AS BOMBASTIC AS I AM, BUT SHE KNOWS WHAT SHE'S DOING.
NOT AS BOMBASTIC LOUD COME ON.
MEANS WHAT YOU'RE WELL THAT IS GOOD.
I REALLY WASN'T TRYING TO PUT ON, ENTERED INTO SOME THINGS
BUT I THINK THE PUSH IS RIGHT NOW, WHAT THEY'RE DOING RIGHT NOW IS REALLY GOING THROUGH EVERYTHING.
'CAUSE Y'ALL MIGHT GET AN EMAIL OR SOME FOLLOW UP.
THEY'RE JUST GOING THROUGH EVERYTHING WE'VE GOT AND WE'RE LOOKING AT EVERYTHING IN LITIGATION.
SETTING UP A LITIGATION LAW AND JUST KIND OF PULLING IT TOGETHER.
AND I KNOW WITH THE TWO CAPITAL MURDER TRIALS WE HAD, YOU HAVE A TON OF OPEN RECORDS.
AND I ASSUME THAT'S PART OF THEIR RESPONSIBILITIES.
THAT YOU KNOW THAT THEY ARE, THEY DO RESPOND TO THAT.
THAT'S ANOTHER THING BECAUSE IT'S A CIVIL FUNCTION.
JUST LIKE IF Y'ALL GET OPEN RECORDS, WE HAVE Y'ALL DO IT, BUT WE OVERSEE IT.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S ANOTHER TASK.
THE ONLY THING THAT'S SOMETHING I THINK THAT THE SHERIFF, UH, SOMETHING, UH, TWO QUESTIONS I HAD SHERIFF HAD ASKED ME ABOUT THIS.
IT'S SOMETHING WE'VE TALKED ABOUT.
I JUST DON'T KNOW IF WE'VE GOT IT IN THE BUDGET TO DO IT.
UH, ONE QUESTION HE HAD ASKED ME ABOUT WAS AN ATTORNEY TO BE A LIAISON BETWEEN LAW ENFORCEMENT AND OUR OFFICE.
SEEMS TO BE THAT I, I DON'T, I DON'T THINK IT'S ME.
BUT, UM, FIGURING OUT, UM, ON THE INTAKE OF CASES, IT MIGHT BE SOMETHING THAT BRIAN AND I COULD COME BACK AND HE TALKS ABOUT IT.
THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THEY, THEY WANTED TO BRING UP TO YOUR ATTENTION.
I'M NOT ASKING FOR IT RIGHT NOW BECAUSE IT WOULD BE A POSITION WE'D HAVE TO SPLIT AND UH, I DUNNO, IT'S JUST SOMETHING HE, THEY BROUGHT TO OUR ATTENTION.
WE HAVE A LOT OF CASES, THERE'S A DELAY IN THE CASES WITH THE FILING OF THE CASES AS IF MAYBE SOME FOLKS, AS THEY CASES COME IN, THEY'RE NOT SURE WHAT TO FILE.
UH, THAT'S, ISN'T THAT THEIR INVESTIGATIVE, IT'S, IT IS, UH, CID BUT YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES PEOPLE FILE STUFF THAT'S MAYBE NOT ALWAYS WORTHWHILE THE FILE THAT'S THE DA'S JOB, BUT MAYBE TO WORK THAT TOGETHER.
THEY FILE IT AND Y'ALL SORT IT OUT.
WE SORT IT OUT AND I, WE AND WE ARE PLEASED TO CONTINUE TO SORT IT OUT.
IT'S JUST SOMETHING THAT SO YOU'RE LOOKING FOR A MEDIATOR TO, TO DO THE SORT.
I DON'T, I'VE BEEN TOLD I DON'T TALK POLICE.
I'M JUST SAYING IT'S SOMETHING IF HE BRINGS IT UP, MAYBE I'LL WALK UP HERE.
I HAVEN'T REALLY, I'M NOT ASKING FOR THAT.
I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE I HAD THAT POSITION.
AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT MAY COME UP AND I JUST WANTED Y'ALL TO KNOW THAT IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN TALKED ABOUT AND I DIDN'T WANNA SAY, OH, THE DA DOESN'T.
HOW DO THEY HANDLE IT LIKE IN DALLAS COUNTY? WELL, IT'S A GOOD QUESTION.
WELL, EVERYBODY, YOU PICKED THE WRONG DALLAS COUNTY OR SOME OTHER, WELL HOW DO THEY HANDLE IT BACK? YOU KNOW, I I I DON'T KNOW.
'CAUSE DALLAS HAS A HUGE INTAKE DIVISION AND I HAVE NOT SEPARATED THAT DOWN.
LIKE, UM, WHAT I DO IS LIKE, TO ME AS AN
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ECONOMY OF SCALES, WE CAN DO EVERYTHING THAT WAS LIKE ME TRYING THAT CASE.AND MY, EVEN THOUGH I'M THE DA, I CAN DO EVERYTHING.
IF I HAVE TO, I CAN HELP TRY A CASE.
IF SOME POLICE OFFICER OR AGENCY WALKS IN HAS A SOMEBODY CASE OR NEEDS HELP ON SOMETHING, I SHOULD BE ABLE TO SAY, THIS AIN'T GONNA MAKE IT.
WE ARE NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO FIND, THERE'S NO PROBABLE CAUSE.
WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO DO THE WHOLE THING.
BUT NOW WHAT EVERYBODY'S SAYING IS WITH VOLUME, IT'D BE NICE TO HAVE A DEDICATED ATTORNEY TO WORK WITH POLICE OFFICERS AND, AND WORK THROUGH THOSE CASES WOULD BE MORE EFFECTIVE.
THAT ALSO PERSON COULD ALSO TRY SOME OTHER CASES.
SO IT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU MAY HEAR AND IT'S NOT ON MY DAY, JUST SO YOU'LL KNOW IT.
AND THEN OF COURSE I HAVE TO ASK MY INVESTIGATORS TO ASK ME, ARE WE EVER GET ANY VEHICLE AT WORK BECAUSE IT'S, WE'RE WA WE'RE IN VIOLATION OF THE UM, COUNTY VEHICLE POLICY.
YEAH, I I WROTE DOWN THE MILEAGE.
OH, ANYTHING WE ASK, TALK ABOUT.
WE JUST DON'T CARE ABOUT THE POLICY.
WELL, I MEAN I DON'T THINK, I JUST WANNA KNOW 'CAUSE I THOUGHT I TOLD, I'D ASK 'CAUSE WE GOT, WHERE ARE YOU? UH, 1 91 85, 180.
I MEAN I'M JUST WONDERING 'CAUSE I MEAN IT'S LIKE THERE'S THREE CARS LIKE THAT.
BUT I JUST WANTED Y'ALL TO KNOW IF THERE'S CARS, I MEAN WE'RE LOOKING AT WHATEVER PROGRAMS. I HEARD WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
IF IT'S WHATEVER PROGRAMS, JUST THE DA'S OFFICE REALLY IS LOOKING AT TWO CARS THAT WE, WE JUST GOTTA RETIRE AND WE'VE GOT ONE THAT'S JUST SITTING ON A, IT'S NOT WORKING.
IS IT IN THE AUCTION? IT'S, WE TALKED TO HER.
IT'S ON THE WAY TO BE AN AUCTION.
BECAUSE THE SUBURBAN'S OUT THERE.
YEAH, THE SUBURBAN'S OUT THERE.
WE GOT ANOTHER ONE THAT'S PRETTY MUCH ON ITS LAST LEG.
DID YOU EVER GET THE KEYS? NO HONEY GOT KEYS YET.
THE SUBURBAN, WE'RE GONNA TALK TO YOU ABOUT THAT.
UM, I THINK KENNETH HAD THE KEYS LAST TIME I HEARD KENNETH.
OKAY, WELL HE'S NOT HERE DOWN.
WELL IT DEFINITELY BROKE DOWN.
UH, BUT I THINK A COUPLE THINGS THAT I'M LOOKING AT MYSELF TO DO THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE A POLICY AND IT WASN'T SOME POLICIES ON THOSE VEHICLES.
IF WE, IF I HAVE A COUPLE OF INVESTIGATORS THAT DON'T LIVE IN THE COUNTY, THEY CAN'T TAKE THE VEHICLES OUTTA THE COUNTY.
I MEAN WE JUST NEED TO HAVE SOME COMMON SENSE POLICIES THAT ALSO KEEP THE USAGE OF THE VEHICLE A LITTLE BIT LONGER.
THAT'S SOMETHING I WAS LOOKING AT.
DO THEY DRIVE 'EM HOME NOW? YES.
AND I JUST FOUND OUT, I MEAN, YOU KNOW HOW YOU THINK YOU KNOW SOMEBODY TO THE COUNTY AND THEN YOU GO, WHERE DO YOU LIVE? AND THEN YOU GO, OH MY GOSH, WHAT? YOU LIVE IN HARRIS COUNTY
YOU REALLY GET HERE PRETTY GOOD.
BECAUSE I WAS, AND THEN ALSO BECAUSE I KNOW, UM, A GOOD QUESTION.
LIKE WHY DO WE HAVE TO, WHAT DO WE DO WITH THOSE CHARGES? THAT WOULD BE MY QUESTION OF WHY WE ALL, AND WE DO SO MUCH SERVICE THAT THINGS WE DON'T SEND TO THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT.
WE DO THE PROTECTIVE ORDERS AND SEIZURES.
OF COURSE WE SUBPOENA WITNESSES ON OUR CASES.
ONE THING WE REALIZE WITH THE BROWNLOW CASE THAT WE SAVED A LOT OF MONEY, BUT IT'S A LOT OF WEAR AND TEAR.
EVERY WITNESS WANTS TO GET A RENTAL CAR.
I MEAN YOU JUST DESCRIBED WELL NO, I MEAN THESE PEOPLE ARE COMING IN ON THIS BIG BROWNLOW CASE AND YOU'VE GOT EXPERTS AND PEOPLE COMING.
THEY GO A RENTAL, A CAR, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE TO SEND YOUR INVESTIGATOR PICK 'EM UP FROM THE AIRPORT AND ALL.
SO THESE ARE THE THINGS, PUT 'EM IN ONE OF THE OLD VEHICLES.
YEAH, BUT SEE THERE'S A LIABILITY.
TELL WALK THE LINE OR WHATEVER.
NO, BECAUSE EVEN THOUGH IT'S LIKE A GOOD THING TO DO, THE LIABILITY OF SOMEBODY'S GETTING HIT THEN THEY'RE ON A WITNESS AND IT'S A PAIN FOR US.
SO I JUST WANTED Y'ALL TO KNOW THAT AS A RESPONSE TO THE VEHICLES I'M POLICY.
BECAUSE I'VE LEARNED THAT SOME OF MY PEOPLE, UM, I MEAN I CAN'T REALLY SAY ROAD ON HER BAD.
YOU JUST NEED TO BRING YOUR VEHICLE TO THE COUNTY AND THEN OUR MOM WILL GO DOWN.
AND THAT'S SOMETHING I NEED TO, AS SOON AS WE FIND OUT A LITTLE MORE DETAIL ABOUT THIS ROAD, SIR, THAT BRIAN HEARD OUT FROM CHIEF.
WE'LL, WELL I JUST WANT Y'ALL TO KNOW.
I KNOW IT'S AN ISSUE THAT COMES UP, I WOULD SAY.
AND YOU'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT LIKE A POLICE PACKAGE OR ANYTHING.
YOU KNOW WHAT I TALKED ABOUT? WE DON'T NEED THAT.
'CAUSE WHAT DO WE USE OUR CARS FOR? YOU KNOW, WE USE 'EM TO SERVE A LOT OF PAPERS, SEIZURES, DETECTIVE WORKS, SUBPOENA.
WE DO BACK UP WHEN THEY HAVE THE SHOOTING AT WALMART.
I THINK MIKE AND SEAN WERE THE SECOND, THIRD PEOPLE ON THE SCENE RIGHT AFTER, AFTER COFF WAS OUT THERE.
SO THAT'S A GOOD THING NOW THAT WALMART.
BUT IT'S NOT A PURSUIT VEHICLE.
MAKE SURE, AND YOU CAN GET PRETTY GOOD DEALS ON CARS LIKE THAT IF YOU'RE NOT YEAH, IT'S NOT THE SAME THING.
SO I WANTED TO BE AWARE OF THAT.
SO YOU WOULD BE WILLING TO PAY HALF OF IT OUTTA SEIZURE? NO.
IF YOU WOULD HAVE THE OTHER LAW ENFORCEMENT PEOPLE QUIT ASKING ME FOR BODY CAMS AND EQUIPMENT AND MAYBE SEIZURE TODAY.
I CONTROL OVER ANY OTHER NOAM DON'T HAVE, DON'T HAVE MUCH MONEY.
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MEETING.THEY'RE, IT'S, WHEN YOU TALK TO 'EM ABOUT THAT THEY, THEY DON'T LIKE SEIZURE FUNDS AND IT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT THE STATE WANNA MANDATE.
IT'S IN KILLABLE COUNTY, BUT THEY WON'T WHAT? THEY WON'T KEEP THE SEIZURE FUNDS FOR STATE PURPOSES RATHER.
WELL THEY, YOU KNOW WHAT IT IS, IS SOMETIMES YOU GET A GROUP OF PEOPLE AND I, WE CAN TALK ABOUT IT AT SOME POINT.
I WON'T WORRY Y'ALL WITH THIS BECAUSE I CAN FEEL RHONDA'S EYES BEHIND ME IS THAT, UM, YOU'VE GOT, YOU'VE GOT A GROUP OF FOLKS THAT'S GOT SOME THAT'S DONE SOME HORRIBLE THINGS.
YOU'VE GOT SOME DAS THAT HAVE TAKEN ADVANTAGE OF THAT HAVE TOTALLY TAKEN ADVANTAGE AND WHAT THEY NEED TO DO IS WHAT THEY'VE DONE AND PROSECUTED IT.
BUT THE SOLUTION IN WHICH HAPPENS SOMETIME IN THE LEGISLATURE TO REACT AND GO, WELL WE JUST DON'T NEED THAT.
WELL NO, 'CAUSE YOU HAVE THE JUSTICE AND MONITORING.
YOU CAN'T SEIZE AFTER YOU SEIZE THE VEHICLE.
YOU HAVE TO PROVE THAT IT WAS, YOU KNOW, PART OF A CRIME AND YOU JUST, IT HAS TO BE SOMETHING WE HAVE TO WORK AT.
BUT IF YOU, IF YOU WANNA MAKE A DEAL WITH ME MM-HMM
BUT I DON'T, YOU KNOW, I DON'T, I DON'T HAVE MONEY LIKE THAT.
I, THAT'S NOT, DOESN'T HURT FOUR SIR.
I'VE GOT THREE THAT, OKAY, SO TO WIND THIS UP, UH, JUST TO MAKE SURE I'VE GOT THE CIVIL POSITION, WHICH Y'ALL TOLD ME YES.
I'M NOT ASKING FOR ANYTHING, UH, VEHICLES IF YOU'RE DOING 'EM AND UM, I'LL TALK TO AND I NEED TO TALK WITH THE SHERIFF ABOUT THAT POSITION.
IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT NEED TO SPLIT, I DUNNO WHERE I FIGURE THAT OUT.
IT'S NECESSARY YOU TO WALK THROUGH THAT.
I'M NOT EVEN SAYING IT'S, I DON'T, I DUNNO.
SO YOU HAVE THREE, THREE VEHICLES THAT HAVE, I HAVE THREE VEHICLES IN EXCESS.
THAT'S WHAT WAS SAYING OVER 180.
BUT I'LL TAKE WHATEVER WE CAN DO.
SO WE'RE REALLY, YOUR RIGHT DEPUTY WAS THREE VEHICLES.
AND I I DID AND I WAS MISSPOKE.
I PUT IT UP TOO QUICK, BUT YOU'RE DOWN TO TWO THEN
BUT I'M GONNA, I NEED TO BRING BACK WITH YOU GUYS THE VEHICLE WHAT IT IS AND THEN MY ON.
SO WE'LL KNOW IF THAT ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANYTHING FOR JUDGE WILEY OR LET HER GET BACK TO WORK.
AND CONGRATULATIONS ON THE UH, UH, CAPITAL MURDER TRIAL.
I KNOW YOU WORKED LONG AND HARD.
WELL, HARDER THAN I, YES I DID.
BUT IT'S, YOU KNOW, THIS MORNING I WAS LOOKING NOT BEING A NERD THERE SOME KIND OF CASE THING.
THEY ARE GOING, THE SUPREME COURT IS GONNA TAKE A CAPITAL PROMOTION AND INTELLECTUAL DISABILITY.
THE UNITED STATES SUPREME COURT.
I MEAN ELECTIONS ARE IMPORTANT AND HOW THAT BALANCE GOES BECAUSE THEY, THEY'RE TAKING UP TWO HOUSTON CASES.
ONE IS A CASE CALLED MOORE AND THAT GUY KILLED THESE PEOPLE IN THE EIGHTIES.
I WAS STILL IN HIGH SCHOOL WHEN THIS GUY KILLED THESE PEOPLE.
AND THEN THE OTHER CASE WAS, UH, ANOTHER CASE THAT'S MORE RECENT.
AND THERE, THERE ONE, ONE OF THE ISSUES WITH THE INTELLECTUAL DISABILITY, WHICH WAS WHAT WAS A BIG DEAL OF PROMISE, KNEW ALL THAT WORK.
AND THE SUPREME COURT MAY SAY, WELL THAT'S JUST UNCONSTITUTIONAL.
THEY WON'T PROSECUTE COMMISSIONERS FOR NO SIR, AS LONG AS I'M HERE.
WAY OVER THE WAY OVER MOVING RIGHT ALONG.
ALL WE'RE GOING VISIT WITH RHONDA AND I THINK FOOD SHOULD BE HERE MONETARILY.
AND THEN WE, MINE, WELL I'M ASKING FOR COUPLE OF CHANGES.
ONE FOR, UH, NEW EMPLOYEE KAREN WORK, SHE WENT PARTTIME, SHE ONLY WORKS 30 HOURS A WEEK.
AND SO I HAVE ONE THAT'S ON WORK ON THE COMP ALSO WORKS FOUR HOURS A THAT DAY.
AND WHAT SHE SAYS IS THE FEES WILL COVER, IT SHOULD HELP.
I MEAN, YESTERDAY WE DONE 18 PASSPORTS THE DAY BEFORE WE DONE 43 PASSPORTS.
THAT'S AND THEY'RE COMING MEAN STILL.
THEY ALL COME IN ABOUT 1 4 30.
WE MADE 'EM, WE PUT A FOUR LIMIT ON TAKE ANYTHING WE WERE HAVING TO STAY OVER.
SO I WAS, I'M ASKING FOR AN EMPLOYEE FOR THAT TO HELP, TO HELP EASE OUR PAIN.
SIR, YOU WANT TO KEEP KAREN? WELL SHE ONLY, SHE ONLY PART-TIME HAS SO SHE, DOES THAT INCLUDE INSURANCE? YES, BECAUSE SHE
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GOES THERE.OKAY, SO IT WOULD, SHE WOULD KEEP HER INSURANCE.
SHE GETS INSURANCE IN RETIREMENT.
AND THEN THIS OTHER PERSON, WHAT WOULD YOU BRING THEM IN AT AT THE STARTING BASE PAY, WHICH WOULD BE 20 WHATEVER THERE IS NO STARTING BASICALLY.
WHERE ARE YOU GOING TO PUT THIS PLACE THAT I DON'T KNOW, THERE'S NO ROOM.
THERE'S A RESTROOM IN THE HALL BACK THERE.
USE THAT WHERE USING NO, THIS IS YOU USING THE RESTROOM IN THE HALLWAY, IN THE BACK HALLWAY.
AND THAT DOES NEED TO BE ADDRESSED ALSO.
BUT OUR JURORS COMPLAINED A LOT ABOUT THAT BATHROOM NOT BEING FLOOR.
YOU MEAN FROM BROWNLOW DURING THE BROWNLOW TRIAL COMPLAIN.
THEY WERE THERE FOR FIVE WEEKS.
SEND ME A, SEND AN EMAIL TO GET BOBBY TO CHECK AND SEE WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE.
AND SO, AND THEN, UH, BUT I MEAN, BRILLIANT.
DO YOU PUT THIS PERSON SOMEPLACE UP THERE? WE COULD FIND A PLACE.
PUT YOU GONNA DO IT DOUBLE WE'RE SPACE.
THERE'S SOME IN HERE THAT HAS A LOT OF SPACE.
SO THE 40, WELL THAT, THAT'S WHAT INSURANCE, I MEAN THEY'RE, THEY'RE PAID LIKE 20.
I I JUST 26 AND I'M THINKING WITH INSURANCE, ALL THAT, THAT'S WHAT I SAY.
WHAT WAS THAT? THAT'S USUALLY WHAT YOU STARTED.
AND WHAT, WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS, IS THE PASSPORT FEES WILL HELP.
AND THOSE SEEM TO BE GOING UP EVERY, THEY'RE ALL, MOST OF 'EM COME FROM ROCKWALL AND HUNT COUNTY BECAUSE THEY'RE ALL SENDING IN THE KAMAN.
YOU CALL, THEY'RE TOO BUSY, YOU CALL? NO, THEY'RE NOT BUSY.
THEY JUST SEND THEM, THEY SEND, WE CHARGE OUTTA COUNTY.
CHARGE WE GET 25 ON EACH APPLICATION OVER TO THE GENERAL.
SO IS THAT A FEE THAT'S SET BY THE COURT? THAT'S SET BY THE NO, BY THE WHAT.
AND THEN I'M ALSO ASKING FOR, IT WAS 25,000.
I'VE GOT A, UM, PROPOSAL WHERE I CAN FINISH UP MY BOOKS.
WE'VE DONE ALL MY, THEY SENT, WE'VE DONE ALL MY FILES AND GOT THEM ALL SCANNED IN AND INDEX.
NOW WE HAVE TO FINISH OUR BOOKS.
AND THERE I'VE GOT, I THINK THERE'S 15 OR 16 BOOKS THAT I'VE GOT TO HAVE ARCHIVE THE OLD, THE 10 WRITTEN.
UH, AND SO THE TOTAL IS 56,310 TO GET 'EM ALL DONE.
AND I THINK LAST TIME I CHECKED WITH KW I HAD LIKE 21,000 IN THERE.
SO DO WE HAVE ANY IN THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT, UH, FUND THAT WE USED TO HELP KAREN? I MEAN, I THINK BY THE END OF THE YEAR SHE WOULD HAVE HER THE MONEY SHE'S ASKING FOR IN IT.
SHE'S ONLY ASKING FOR THE 25,467 AND SHE'S ALREADY GOT A FUND BALANCE AT 24.
MIGHT BE JUST A LITTLE BIT A TRANSFER.
MAYBE LESS THAN A THOUSAND DOLLARS IF SHE NEEDED IT.
HOW MUCH IS CURRENTLY BEING THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT FUND? 55,000.
SO BETWEEN TWO THERE SHOULD BE, AND THAT'S NOT COMING OUTTA THE GENERAL FUND THAT'S COMING OUT AND THAT GET YOU UHHUH WHERE I NEED FOR MY BOOKS.
I'LL GET ALL THE ONES THAT I NEED TO HAVE TIMES GET THOSE DONE.
SO ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? I'M SORRY.
SO THE 25,000 YOU'RE ASKING FOR, IS THAT GONNA REDUCE YOUR INDEXING REPORTING AT ALL? WILL IT REDUCE IN THAT FUND? 47.
I'M ASKING FOR AN ADDITIONAL THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT I'M ASKING FOR IS THE 25.
AND THEN THE OTHER ONE ON THE PART-TIME POSITION, DOES THAT MEAN THAT POSITION'S GOING FROM LIKE REDUCING THAT FULL-TIME POSITION OR IS THAT JUST MOVING HER TO PART-TIME, MOVING HER TO PART-TIME AND ASKING FOR AN ADDITIONAL,
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I MEAN I DON'T HAVE ROOM FOR ANY, I MEAN, BUT I WANT THAT POSITION IN CASE I FIND AN ANSWER TO.SO BASICALLY AN ADDITIONAL POSITION IS GONNA BE ADDED TO YOUR YES.
WELL IF SHE'S GOING TO BE IN THE PART-TIME LINE ITEM, THEN YOU'VE GOT A POSITION IN THE FULL TIME.
SHE'S IN THE PART-TIME LINE ITEM, BUT SHE'S ON HEALTH INSURANCE.
INSURANCE IS IN A WHOLE NOTHER DEPARTMENT.
SO I GUESS YOU HAVE A FULL TIME POSITION WITH KIDS MOVING.
YEAH, BECAUSE SHE IN THAT, IN THAT UM, EXTRA HEALTH LINE ITEM.
SHE'S GOT 25,000 AND SHE'S ONLY SPENT RIGHT AT 16.
SO SHE STILL HAS ENOUGH IN THERE.
JUST WENT, SHE JUST WENT MAY 1ST.
DID THAT EVERYBODY GET WHERE YOU NEEDED TO BE ON THAT? WELL, WITH, WITH HER GOING TO PART-TIME.
ARE YOU GONNA NEED TO INCREASE YOUR PART-TIME? I'LL HAVE TO, WE SIT DOWN AND SEE HOW MUCH YOU'LL BE WITH THE LIFE INSURANCE AND SHE CAN GET LIFE INSURANCE.
I MEAN WITH THE, THE RETIREMENT ONLY CAN AFFECT YOUR BUDGET.
SO THEN WE'RE STILL ADDING A ONLY POSITION OR YOU'RE USING PART-TIME POSITION WILL BE, WE'LL NEED TO CHECK IT.
BUT AS MEETING POSITION, THE COURTS OKAY, SHE WORKING OUT.
ALL WE WILL, UH, TIME IS 1210 OUR HERE I THINK.
AND SO WE, WE SAW THE BIRD MAN.
WE'LL DISMISS THESE HEARINGS UNTIL ONE THAT SHOULD I SHOULD GO TO WORK.
WE SENT THOSE TO THE VENDOR AS SOON AS SOON AS, YEAH, AS SOON AS WE HAD A PURCHASE ORDER THEY'RE ALL SENT TO AND YOU KNOW IT SAID ON THAT BID ALERT, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER IT WAS 30 DAYS.
WELL I ORDERED THE ROCKS THREE MONTHS AGO.
I WANTED 3000 TONS, YOU KNOW, TYPE 3 0 2, ITEM 3 0 2 ROCK.
NO OTHER DAYS WE GOTTA START HAUL.
HOW MUCH WE NEED? WELL WE STARTING ON OUR 3000, WELL WE DON'T HAVE 3000.
I TOLD YOU I STARTED 1ST OF JUNE AND I WAS GONNA NEED 3000 TONS.
HOW MUCH YOU GOT? WELL WE GOT 600 MAYBE.
WHY WAS SOMEBODY ELSE BUSING ABOUT LAST YEAR TOO? YEAH, I THINK THEY RAN OUT LAST YEAR, BUT JAKE GOT A LITTLE MORE, I THINK THAN HE ANTICIPATED.
BUT THAT WAS OKAY BECAUSE WE USED A LITTLE VEST.
HIS FAULT THEN I JUST, WELL IT WORKED OUT WHAT CHIP FROM HANSEN.
MAYBE WE GOT OURS BACK IN, I THINK IT WAS FEBRUARY WHEN WE DECIDED WE LAST YEAR, LAST SEASON.
I GOT I DIDN'T EVEN SEE YOU SITTING THERE ONE DOWN SIX TONS.
ALL THEY DID WAS TELL US, WE GOT I THINK 1500 TONS.
I BELIEVE THAT'S KNOW A WEEKS BEFORE YOU COME BACK.
WE'LL HAVE IT BROUGHT IN IF WE DON'T HAVE IT CONSISTENT THERE BY THE FIRST JUNE AND THEY GOT SIX CREW.
ARE WE READY TO BEGIN? I THINK EVERYBODY'S HERE.
UH, KW I GUESS IS COMING BACK MAYBE.
UH, YEAH, HE'S TRYING TO GET A BILL PAID.
THANK YOU FOR COMING IN A LITTLE EARLY.
AND SO THIS IS MS. RATCLIFF AND SHE OBVIOUSLY, AND SHE'S GOING TO TALK ABOUT HER BUDGET FOR NEXT YEAR AS WELL AS THE VOTER.
I HAVE THE FOUR 10 BUDGET, WHICH IS FOR VOTER REGISTRATION, VOTER REGISTRAR.
SO FOUR 10 IS THE FIRST BUDGET I'M REQUESTING.
THE SECOND ONE I HAVE IS FOUR 90 AND THAT'S THE ELECTIONS BUDGET.
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FOUR 90 AND ON FOUR 90 BUDGET.I DID POINT OUT THAT OUR SOFTWARE GOES THROUGH IT, IT DOESN'T GO THROUGH US, BUT I'M NOT REQUESTING ANY CHANGES ON THAT QUESTION EITHER.
I GOT A QUESTION FOR YOU ON THAT.
WE KEEP SAYING THAT THOSE NEW VOTING MACHINES AND ALL THE CONFERENCES WE GO THROUGH MM-HMM
IT'S GOT LITTLE THING YOU KEEP RIGHT THERE AT SOME POINT OR WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GO TO THOSE NEED TO GO TO THOSE OR NO? NO, THERE'S NO REQUIREMENT TO GO TO THOSE.
IF WE DID WANT TO GO TO THOSE, YOU CANNOT BUY THEM.
LIKE WE BUY TRY OUT OF EACH BUDGET TO BUY A FEW MORE PIECES OF EQUIPMENT TO KEEP OUR STUFF CURRENT.
YOU'D HAVE TO BUY AS THAT 50,000 IF WE WANTED TO SWITCH WEAPON.
YOU GET ALL IT DOES IS GIVE YOU A COPY OF HOW YOU VOTED.
LIKE YOU DIDN'T KNOW THAT ALREADY.
IT IT'S DECEIVING IN THAT IT MAKES YOU THINK THAT IT DOES SOMETHING SPECIAL.
BUT ALL IT DOES MAKE A COPY VOTED.
WE'RE SO HOW DO WE KEEP TRACK OF OUR COUNTY VOTES NOW? DOES IT, DO WE HAVE IT EVER PRINTED OUT ON ANYTHING? YEAH, WE CAN PRINT OUT EVERY ELECTRONIC VOTE THAT WE CAN STICK THEM, UH, PUT THE CARDS FROM DIFFERENT PLACES AND PRINT 'EM OUT ON PAPER.
BUT UM, IT'S GONNA BE THE SAME THING YOU'RE GONNA SEE IN THE COMPUTER.
UH, WE DO, IT'S, IT'S MORE IMPORTANT THAT A RUNOFF TO DO THE UH, PAPER BALLOT.
ONES HAVE NEVER CHECKED IF SOMEBODY BALLOT AND THEY COUNTED CHECK MARK OR MACHINE HAD CHECK MARK, THEY DID IT TWICE OR SOMETHING OR SOMETHING.
EVERY SHOW UP AND SEE NOTHING HAD CHANGED.
WILL WE EVER GET TO THE FORM WHERE WE CAN CONSOLIDATE SUBOXONE OR NOT? UH, ONLY IF WE ARE STUCK WITH THE, THE 30 POLLING SITES UNTIL I GUESS 2020 WHEN YOU DO YOUR CENSUS HANGING IN AND DECIDE IF YOU WANNA GO WITH LESS.
BUT YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO STICK WITH AROUND 5,000 OR LESS PER SITE IF YOU CAN.
EXCEPT IN TIMES WHEN YOU HAVE SMALLER RACES AND YOU ARE ALLOWED TO CONSOLIDATE WITH HIGHER NUMBERS.
LIKE WE'VE BEEN WITH CHURCH CRISIS SITE 'CAUSE WE DIDN'T HAVE SOME POLLING SITES IN 20.
WHICH WE EXPECT HAVE RATE BY NOVEMBER.
WE NEED ALL 26 THAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW.
SO SUMMER WE GOTTA FINISH THE LAST FEW AND 40 THAT WE NEED.
I THINK, I THINK WE'RE GONNA BE OKAY JIMMY IZE AND I THINK WE'RE GONNA BE ABLE TO DO THAT.
BUT INTERMIXING THE TWO MACHINES DOESN'T WORK.
AND THE OTHER OTHER THING ON THE TRAINING, MAKING FEWER SITES CAN ONLY HAPPEN IF WE REQUEST TO GO TO UM, CONSOLIDATED SITES WHERE EVERY, IT'S LIKE URBAN VOTING.
ANYBODY CAN VOTE ANYWHERE, THEN WE CAN GO DOWN LIKE A QUARTER LESS AND THEN MAYBE THE NEXT YEAR THEY MIGHT LET YOU GO DOWN A QUARTER MORE DEPENDING ON HOW WELL AN HOUR.
BUT THAT HAS TO BE, HAS TO BE LIKE A STUDY FIRST YOU HAVE TO ASK PERMISSION AND ONLY LET SO MANY COUNTIES OVER A HUNDRED THOUSAND DO IT EACH YEAR AND UNDER A HUNDRED THOUSAND BECAUSE IT'S STILL TRIAL.
AND THEN, UM, YOU CAN'T EVEN REALLY GET THE REQUEST IF WE'RE NOT SHOWING THAT WE'RE TRYING TO GO ALL ELECTRONIC.
SO BECAUSE THAT KIND OF VOTING IS ALL ELECTRONIC, WHICH IS WHY LAST NOVEMBER I ASKED YOU TO GO ALL ELECTRONIC AND YOU DID AND IT WENT SMOOTHLY.
WE DIDN'T HAVE, WE DIDN'T HAVE COMPLAINTS OR PROBLEMS AT ALL THE, ALL THAT TIME VOTING.
THE PARTIES CHOSE TO GO COURT.
AND THE PARTIES CHOSE TO GO HALF AND HALF BECAUSE I THINK THEY DIDN'T WANNA GET IN TROUBLE WITH THE VOTERS.
SO THEY DID, YOU KNOW, ONE, ONE TIME THEY ONE TIME ELECTRONIC.
WE NEED TO SHOW A RECORD OF ELECTRONIC VOTING AND THEN ASK IF WE CAN GO THAT WAY.
YOU HAVE TO DO STUDIES OUT IN TOWN, GET PUBLIC OPINION, ALL THESE KIND OF THINGS.
THEN YOU CAN CONSOLIDATE HOMICIDE.
HAVE WE DONE ENOUGH WHERE WE CAN GET A STUDY OR ARE WE TO THE POINT WE NEED TO ASK? WE HAVE TO ASK FIRST ARE WE TO THAT POINT SINCE WE WENT ELECTRONIC LAST NOVEMBER AND IF WE PLAN ON GOING THIS NOVEMBER, WE PROBABLY CAN, THERE'S A CERTAIN WINDOW EXCUSE AROUND THE NOVEMBER TIMEFRAME WHEN YOU CAN ASK.
AND UH, I WOULD LIKE TO DO THAT AND CONSOLIDATE, NOT HAVE SOME MANY CUT DOWN EXPENSES.
IT DEFINITELY CUTS DOWN AND IT'S LESS CONFUSING FOR THE VOTERS BECAUSE THEY GO ANY POLLING SITE AND VOTE.
AND THAT IS WHAT WE REALLY LIKE.
THAT'S REASON I LIKE, I LIKE US TO DO THAT WHEN WE CAN AS SOON AS WE CAN.
IN THE MEANTIME WE'VE GOT, ITS WORKED ON A, NOT ALL THE BUGS ARE LOOKED AT YET, BUT THEY'RE WORKING ON A REALLY FABULOUS PROGRAM WHERE PEOPLE WHO ARE TECH SAVVY AT LEAST ENOUGH TO GO ONLINE AND
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PUNCH A BUTTON THEY CAN PUT THEIR ADDRESS IN, THEY'LL TELL 'EM WHERE THEY GO TO VOTE AND WE EVEN GIVE A MAP DIRECTIONS FROM THEIR HOUSE TO THEIR, SO THEY'RE NOT QUITE FINISHED WITH IT YET, BUT THEY'RE DOING GAUGE IS WORKING BY THE END IT TAKES YOU AND YOU GET OLDER.EVEN IF WE DID THE STUDY NEXT YEAR, IF WE ASK FOR IT THIS YEAR AND THEY LET US DO IT, UM, THAT WOULDN'T CHANGE THE BUDGET.
THAT WOULD JUST BE UM, A MORE TIME, UM, OUT IN COMMUNITY HEARINGS AND SOME PUBLICATIONS.
BUT I THINK WE CAN DO THAT PROCESS.
WE SOMETHING WORKDAY DAYS ON ELECTION DAY, THEY ONLY NEED TWO.
YOU KNOW, BASICALLY NEED THE FIRST MONDAY IN MARCH AND THE SECOND TUESDAY OF NOVEMBER, A WORK DAY AND THEN HE HAVE ALL THE SCHOOLS AND YOU'D NEVER HAVE A PROBLEM DAY.
YOU MEAN IF THEY MADE HIM A HOLIDAY? HMM.
IF THEY DIDN'T A HOLIDAY, NOT A WORK DAY.
I MEAN, UH, A TEACHER WORK DAY, MAYBE IT A TEACHER'S WORK DAY, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? THEY HAVE ANY MACHINES IN THERE AND THEN WOULDN'T BE BRUCE COULD TAKE CARE OF THAT.
THINK SO I DO HAVE SOME, I REQUEST SOME CHANGE ON MY 500 BUDGET, WHICH IS MY AUTO AND TAX BUDGET.
AND UM, ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE 500 BUDGET? BUT A LOT OF THIS IS NOT, IS NOT ANYTHING THAT I HAVE CONTROL OVER.
I MEAN LIKE THE INCREASE FOR THE PHONE ALLOWANCE, UM, AND UM, THE INCREASE FOR, UM, BONDS, LIKE YOU LOOKED OUT THE BOTTOM, HERE'S ALL YOUR INCREASE, THE BOTTOM RIGHT WE READ THE FUND ALLOWANCE AND THE BONDS.
WE HAVE TO HAVE THAT FOR NEXT YEAR.
SO THAT'S NOT UNLESS YOU GUYS CHANGE THE THING.
BUT, SO THOSE ARE KIND OF BEYOND MY CONTROL.
UNLESS THE GENERAL FUND IS GONNA DO SOMETHING FOR BONDS FOR EVERYBODY, I HAVE TO PUT IT INTO THIS BUDGET.
IS THAT NINE OH DOLLARS FOR ONE PERSON OR ALL PEOPLE? JUST THE ONE PERSON.
SO, UM, NOW THE OTHER, WHAT I AM ASKING FOR AND THAT'S INCLUDED IN THE OTHER THREE IS I HAVE ONE, UM, I HAVE TWO AND A HALF PEOPLE IN FOR, SO I HAVE ONE PERSON WHO WORKS THREE DAYS A WEEK IN FOR THE 40 IS GROWING AND I EXPECT IT TO GROW A LOT MORE IN THE NEXT YEAR.
SO WHAT I'M ASKING IS THAT THE PERSON IN FOUR, THAT'S PART-TIME THAT WE'D BE ALLOWED TO HAVE A FULL-TIME PERSON, THREE FULL-TIME PEOPLE IN FOUR.
UH, WHEN SOMEBODY HAS TO BANK RUN, IT HAS TO BE OUT FOR LUNCH.
THAT LEAVES ONE PERSON IN THE OFFICE FOR FOUR.
IT'S, IT'S NOT LIKE, UM, IT'S JUST NOT LIKE KIM FOR ME IT'S ALWAYS BUSY.
THERE'S, THERE ALIGN A LOT AND IT WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL IF WE HAD A THIRD FULL-TIME PERSON.
SO WE HAVE ONE THREE DAYS A WEEK.
I'M ASKING TO ADD IT TO FIVE DAYS A WEEK WHEN YOU DO THAT.
AND THEN YOU GOTTA PAY INSURANCE AND THIS O SCREEN, ALL THAT OTHER STUFF, WHICH IS ALL THAT'S ADDED IN THERE.
SO REALLY ALL I'M ASKING FOR IS A THREE DAY A WEEK OR YOU GO TO FIVE DAYS A WEEK.
AND UNFORTUNATELY FOR US, THAT PARTICULAR ONE SPEAKS SPANISH.
BUT IT'S PICKING UP THE BUSINESS IN FOR, BECAUSE THE PEOPLE WHO, WHO WERE, UH, BRINGING THE TAG WHO WERE GOING OTHER PLACES ARE NOW COMING TO 40 ON THERE.
THEY KNOW THE SPANISH WORKING.
NO, WE HAVE, WE HAVE TWO PEOPLE YES.
THAT COME IN THERE AND TIE UP HALF DAY WITH THAT ONE PERSON.
WELL WE DO HAVE SOME PEOPLE THAT NO MATTER WHERE THEY ARE, THEY'RE GONNA TIE UP SOMEBODY TIME, THEY'RE GONNA TIE IT UP.
I MEAN THEY, THEY UH, YOU KNOW, THEY COME IN AND I DON'T SAY A LOT, BUT THEY HAVE BE, BUT WE DON'T ALLOW 'EM TO STAND THERE WITH THAT.
WE, UH, THEY'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO BE THERE THREE THE END OF THE LINE.
WELL, BUT THERE'S NOBODY BEHIND THEM BECAUSE THE OTHER TWO ARE TAKEN CARE OF.
YOU SEE WHAT I'M SAYING? SO THAT'S ON.
BUT IF YOU ONLY HAVE TWO PEOPLE THERE AND ONE OF 'EM IS AT LUNCH, YOU CAN'T HAVE SOMEBODY WITH ALL THOSE TITLES SAVED.
I DON'T EVEN FOUND THAT MANY TITLES TO DO.
SO ON THIS INCREASE, ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT 28 POUNDS A YEAR? 23, YES.
AS A 28, UH, THOUSAND BASE PAID? YES.
BUT THE EXTRA, THE REALLY THE EXTRA MONEY WOULD BE THE 15 FIVE.
BUT THE, THE OTHER MONEY IS THE SOCIAL SECURITY RETURN THAT I CONTROL OF.
YEAH, THAT'S THE TOTAL AMOUNT.
SO THE TOTAL AMOUNT, IT'S ALL, NO, SHE'S, SHE'S, SHE'S A GOOD GIRL THAT SHE'S WORKING.
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I WAS OVER THERE THIS MORNING AND I MEAN, I DIDN'T GET TO TALK TO THE STAFF.I JUST HAD TO SWITCH OUT STUFF AND LEAVE BECAUSE THEY WERE SLAMMED.
SO THIS, YEAH, IT'S, IT'S GOOD WHEN ONE GOES TO LUNCH, THE LINE GETS REALLY LONG.
IT'S JUST A PLACE WHERE WE NEED A THIRD PERSON.
YOUR LEAVE COME BACK FROM THE 12TH TO THE 2020 FIFTH OR SOMETHING.
IT'S NOT TOO BUSY OF CHRISTMAS END THE WEEK AND A HALF AFTER THE FIRST EVERYBODY'S COMING IN HERE.
YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE TO GO AWAY AND GET IN IN FIX FIRST AND THEN COME BACK AND THEN, YOU KNOW, IT'S A, IT'S A DEAL.
WELL THAT'S, THAT'S THE ONLY THING I'M ASKING FOR.
REALLY OUT OF ALL MY THREE BUDGET IS MAKE MY OR FULL-TIME.
THE OTHER STUFF IS JUST REQUIRED.
MS. ANTHONY, WHAT ABOUT ON THE 44 12 BONDS? UH, IS THE BOND COST GONNA GO UP THAT MUCH? WHY IS IT, WHY WOULD THE COST OF IT THE $1,800? FOR SOME REASON I THOUGHT WE GOT THAT FROM, FROM YOUR OFFICE.
NO, THEY SAID THAT'S WHAT THEY USED LAST.
THAT'S HOW MUCH IT COST LAST TIME.
BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO BE INSURED FOR ON YOUR BONDS FOR THE ISDS AND EVERYONE YOU COLLECT FOR YEAH, FOR ALL 34 ENTITIES.
AND WE SEND A NOTE FOR THEM, MOST OF THEM TO PAY US SPEC, BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT THEY HAVE A, I DON'T KNOW IF THEY DO OR NOT.
DO THEY, KAREN, DO WE EVER GET I WOULDN'T RECEIVE THE MONEY.
I WOULDN'T SEE IF IT'S IN OUR CONTRACT.
WHAT I'LL SEE IF IT'S IN OUR CONTRACT, I DON'T KNOW THAT IT IS.
UH, BUT THAT I WAS JUST TOLD THAT'S HOW MUCH IT COSTS.
I DONT KNOW HOW MUCH IT'LL COST THIS TIME AROUND.
THIS, WE'LL WE'LL CHECK THAT OUT AND SEE WHAT WE WANT.
BUT IT IS JUST GONNA REQUIRE LINEUP.
WE GOTTA HAVE TO PAY FOR THE BONDS AND YEAH.
AND YOU'RE WELL, IN 2014 WE PAID 1500.
SO IT
THAT'S THE MINIMUM REQUIREMENT FOR THIS SIZE.
MORE THAN ONE YEAR THOUGH? YES, IT'S FOR MORE THAN ONE YEAR FOR FOUR YEARS.
BUT WHAT'S INTERESTING ABOUT THAT, I REMEMBER CORRECTLY ABOUT WHEN WE HAD THE THEFT, YOU KNOW, TAX MM-HMM
NO, BUT TACK DID BECAUSE EMPLOYEE THEFT.
WELL NO, THE INSURANCE PAID NOT THE GOT AWAY Y'ALL WANT.
NO, IT HAPPENED RIGHT AFTER, BEFORE WE GOT HERE.
BUT I'M THINKING IT THAT'S ABOUT RIGHT.
BOND WAS CALLING TAX ASSESSOR AND HE WASN'T REALLY INVOLVED IN THE THEFT.
I MEAN I KIND OF THOUGHT THAT MUCH.
WELL WE HAVE EMPLOYEE THEFT INSURANCE TOO, SO, BUT AS HAVE IT, THE LADY IS NOW PAYING TAX BACK BECAUSE SHE WAS CONVICTED AND, BUT IT IS SUPPOSED TO BE, THAT'S WHY YOU DEPUTIZE MY STAFF IS BECAUSE THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO WORK UNDER MY BOND.
THAT'S WHY WHEN WE COME AND SAY ANY OF THESE PEOPLE'S A DEAL THAT WE CAN ACTUALLY EVEN JUST SET THE BOND.
I MEAN IF YOU HAVE INSURANCE, YOU MIGHT, THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING TO LOOK INTO AND SEE IF WE CAN ACTUALLY LOWER, CAN YOU CHECK ON THAT PART? WE CAN ACTUALLY LOWER THE MINE COST.
I THINK WE GET TO SET THE PRICES.
SOMETHING I KNOW WHERE I'M AT, IT'S KIND OF, YOU KNOW, GO TOO MANY CLASSES AND READ 'EM AND YOU SAY, OH, YOU GET TO SET THE PRICE.
SO ON THE OUTSOURCING TAX STATEMENTS, THAT'S GONNA BE ABOUT THE SAME LINE? YES.
I'M GETTING UM, SOME IN NOW AND IT'S GONNA BE IN THAT RANGE.
AND SO IF IF IT COMES OUT TO BE LESS, THAT'S GREAT.
BUT IF IT COMES, IT'S, IT HAS BEEN 40, I THINK IT WAS 43 LAST YEAR, I'M NOT SURE.
SO WHAT, YOU KNOW, WELL BIT INCREASE IN THERE.
I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THERE'S ENOUGH TO COVER BECAUSE I'M NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO GO ANYWHERE.
I'M GONNA HAVE TO GO SOMEWHERE AND HE'S DONE AN A CT.
ANY, ANY QUESTIONS FOR TANYA ON THIS? I THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
CAN PUT PUT IT EASY TO, EASY TO READ FORM.
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OH REALLY? YEAH.I DON'T MIND GOING DOWN TOMORROW.
ANDY, CAN YOU CHECK ON ROD AND SEE IF HE CAN COME ON.
ALRIGHT, SO THIS IS ONE WE'LL GET OUT A LITTLE EARLY TOMORROW.
AND I THINK NOW PROBABLY A GOOD TIME TO TALK ABOUT THAT EARLIER.
UH, BECAUSE OF THE, UH, WHAT IS IT? UH, FAIR LABOR STANDARDS ACT, A FAIR LABOR STANDARDS ACT, DEPART LABOR, UM, CHANGES TO THE ACT GIVE THAT TO YOU FOR, UM, AND WHAT IT DID IS IT AFFECT THE, AFFECTS THE SALARIES TEST TO, UM, CLASSIFY A EMPLOYEES AS EXEMPT OR NON-EVENT FROM THE GRAND STANDARD ACT.
AND THESE ARE THE FEW EMPLOYEES THAT WOULD BE AFFECTED.
UM, THE NEW, THE CURRENT OR THE, IF THIS IS NOT EFFECTIVE UNTIL, UH, DECEMBER 1ST OF JULY 16TH.
SO WE HAVE UNTIL THEN TO MAKE THIS, THESE CHANGES IF WE, OUR OPTIONS ARE TO INCREASE THE SALARY TO MAKE THEM EXEMPT, TO KEEP THEIR EXEMPT STATUS OR WE MAKE THEM NON-EXEMPT AND MAKE THEM COMP TIME.
SO, UM, IT, IT'S NOT, IT'S IF, IF YOU CHANGE THEM, THEIR CLASSIFICATION TO NON-EXEMPT, UM, IT'S GONNA COST THE COUNTY AND COMP TIME, BUT WE DON'T PAY COMP TIME.
SO THERE'S NOT AN UPFRONT COST TO THAT.
UM, IF YOU INCREASE THEIR SALARY, UM, THAT, BECAUSE YOU KIND OF OVER THAT FAR RIGHT COLUMN IS THE DIFFERENCE IN SALARY THAT THEY WOULD NEED FROM THEIR CURRENT SALARY TO THE NEW SALARIES TEST, UM, OF WHAT IT, WHAT THEY HAVE TO MAKE PER YEAR TO CLASSIFIED AS EXEMPT.
UM, SO I, I MEAN IT GOES EITHER WAY.
I THINK THERE ARE SEVERAL OF THEM THAT, UM, IN MY OPINION WITH THEIR JOB RESPONSIBILITIES AND THINGS LIKE THAT, THEY, THEY, THEY SHOULD BE CLASSIFIED AS EXEMPT.
UM, SEVERAL OF THEM WE COULD PROBABLY LOOK INTO A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL OF THEIR CLASSIFICATION AND THEIR ACTUAL JOB DUTIES.
UM, BUT THAT'S COMPLETELY UP TO YOU GUYS BECAUSE THIS IS A BIG TIME TO TALK ABOUT IT BECAUSE IF YOU HAVE TO RAISE YOUR TOWEL, YOU CAN, YOU MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY DIDN'T SO, SO EVERYBODY KIND OF GET WHAT SHE'S TALKING ABOUT.
YOU KNOW, UH, UH, I READ THAT IN THE, IN THE, THE DEAL THAT CAME DOWN ONLINE, THE OPINION, OPINION OPINIONS OF THIS 47, YOU KNOW, YEARS AGO I WAS INVOLVED IN THE, IN THE, IN THE DEAL AND THEY BASICALLY CAPTURED IT WAS CAPTURED AT 51,000.
AND THAT'S KIND OF FUNNY THAT THEIRS WAS ACTUALLY SAYING THAT OUR EXEMPT THING WOULD BE 47 MEAN IF YOU MADE OVER 51 YOU WERE KIND OF EXEMPT AND NOT WELL, WELL THE DEPARTMENT OF LABOR, IT USED THEIR CURRENT BACK NOW, NOW IT'S LIKE FOUR $13 A WEEK I THINK.
SO LET'S SAY EQUATES TO ABOUT $24,000 A YEAR.
SO FOR THE, THE EXEMPT CLASSIFICATION, YOU HAVE TO MEET THREE STANDARDS AND THAT FIRST STANDARD IS YOUR SALARY.
SO IF YOU DON'T MAKE OVER THAT SALARY, NO MATTER WHAT YOUR JOB DUTIES ARE, YOU CANNOT BE CLASSIFIED AS EXEMPT.
AND SO RIGHT NOW IT'S 20, IT'S ALMOST 24,000 IS WHAT IT IS RIGHT NOW WITH THE NEW LEGISLATION, THIS IS GOING INTO EFFECT DECEMBER 1ST, THEIR SALARY HAS TO BE THIS 47TH, SEVEN 40 OR 47, 4 76.
OR THEY CAN'T BE CLASSIFIED AS EXEMPT NO MATTER WHAT THEIR JOB RESPONSIBILITIES ARE.
SO IT'S THREE STANDARDS THAT THEY HAVE TO MEET AND IT'S AND NOT ORG.
SO IF THEY ARE NOT MAKING THIS SALARY YEAH.
SO I MEAN, AND THE ONLY THING IT AFFECTS, LIKE I SAID, IS THAT COMP TIME.
SO I MEAN IT ALSO, A LOT OF PEOPLE WILL TEST'S EXEMPT AS A STATUS THING.
I DON'T KNOW WHY IT'S, YOU DON'T HAVE TO, I'M NOT TRYING COMP NOT EXEMPT.
SOME CONDITIONS YOU WOULD'VE A PAY COMP TIME ANYWAY.
WELL, MOST OF IT, MOST OF THESE THEY SIT THERE WORK ALL TIME, COMP TIME.
WELL, I MEAN YOU'VE GOT SOME DEPARTMENT HEADS ON THERE THAT LIKE STEVE EY ON THERE, HE WORKS A LOT.
SO I'M JUST SAYING THERE, I THINK THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT NEED TO BE LOOKED AT.
UM, I BELIEVE THAT THEIR CURRENT JOB RESPONSIBILITIES WOULD ENTAIL THEM TO BE,
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THAT THEIR SALARY SHOULD BE INCREASED TO BE EXEMPT LEVEL.THERE ARE SOME THAT I THINK WE COULD ADDRESS IN WHO, WHO ELSE IN THERE THAT WOULD, THAT WE ACTUALLY EVER WORK OVERTIME WOULD EVER WORK ON THAT THAT, THAT ACTUALLY DO.
UM, LISA HAD ONE WHO? LISA, DO YOU WORK ON THAT? NO, NOT AT ALL.
WHENEVER Y'ALL SHOW UP AT, UH, YOU KNOW, I DO.
WHEN Y'ALL SHOW UP 4 35 O'CLOCK GO SHAME ON YOU FOR BEING HERE.
SHE, SHE'S NOT, SHE'S DEPARTMENT HEAD THAT'S MEETING ALL THE TIME.
THAT'S DOESN'T, MEANWHILE THEY'RE HERE, THEY HAVE TO BE WORKING.
I MEAN THAT'S ALL WE, BECAUSE OKAY, I'M JUST CHECKING THEN.
WELL THAT WAS A LITTLE, I WAS FORCED TO DO THAT, WHICH I HAVE A LETTER BECAUSE I DON'T BELIEVE THAT POSITION RESPONSIBILITIES ARE CLASSIFIED AS EXEMPT.
BUT I RECEIVED AN ORDER FROM THE JUDGE THAT I WAS SUPPOSED TO DO THAT.
SO IF WE EVER GET SUED OR EVER ANYTHING HAPPENS, I HAVE THE LETTER, THE BACK NOTE THAT HE, NO, I DON'T THINK THOSE JOB RESPONSIBILITIES WOULD EXEMPT POSITION.
WELL, I MEAN IS THAT PERSON GONNA BE ENTITLED INTO AN 8,000 5 82? THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING.
I THINK THERE ARE PHYSICIANS THAT ARE CURRENTLY CLASSIFIED AS EVENT THAT WE COULD ADDRESS THE RESPONSIBILITY ISSUES OF THEIR JOB DUTIES AND THEY WOULD NOT BE CLASSIFIED AS EXEMPT IF WE DID NOT RAISE THEIR SALARY.
I WOULD THINK THAT'D BE ONE RIGHT THERE.
WELL EITHER YOU, EITHER YOU RESCHEDULE THEIR PAY TO MAKE SO THEY'RE EXEMPT OR YOU DON'T MAKE THEM EXEMPT ALL TIME.
I MEAN I I'D SAY YOU GIVE THEM COMP TIME.
THEY NEVER GONNA, THEY THEY'RE NOT GONNA WORK AT NO, I THINK THERE THEY HAVE TO EXPLAIN WHY THEY'RE WORKING.
BECAUSE MAYBE MOST OF THEM KNOW THEIR DEPARTMENT HEADS IN THE OR THERE'S SOMEBODY THAT SHOULDN'T, THERE'S JUST NOT GONNA BE HERE BEFORE ASKING HE COME.
I THINK, I MEAN, I MEAN JOEL'S DECISION, I THINK Y NEED TO LOOK AT THE JOB RESPONSIBILITY POSITION.
ARE YOU GONNA SAVE MONEY COMP TIME FOR RAISING HER SALARY? I THINK STEVE IS ONE WHO TOOK IN THAT.
THAT WOULD BE THE ONE THAT WOULD CONCERN YOU.
WOULD YOU WOULD SAY NOT CONTACT IF HE'S ON CALL ALL THE TIME.
HE'S AWARE ALL THE TIME AND THINGS TO THAT EFFECT.
IS THIS SOMETHING WE NEED TO, WELL I THINK AT SOME POINT I JUST NEED TO TO BE AWARE.
I READ WE HAVE TO, WHICH WOULD AFFECT NEXT YEAR BUDGET.
AND THIS HAS BEEN IN THE WORK FOR ABOUT A YEAR NOW.
IT WAS ALMOST, I THINK WHEN THEY FIRST REPORTED 51.
THE, BECAUSE THE COMPANY THAT I INVOLVED IN AND WORKED FOR, THEY LOST BECAUSE ALL THOSE PEOPLE.
OKAY, SO YOU WANT GET BUDGET NOW.
VERY LAST OF THE BOOK ALSO TOO, JUST TO BRING UP TO THE, UM, THAT RISK MANAGEMENT STUFF APPLICATION.
AND I DON'T HAVE A SINGLE APPLICATION, BUT I DO ONE.
I GOT FROM BUT I I'M SAYING WE 40 THOUSANDS.
ANYTHING DO WITH SAFETY EQUIPMENT OR ANYTHING, IS THAT 45,000? YEAH, 45,000 WE CAN GET, WE CAN APPLY FOR THEY MONEY JULY 1ST.
Y'ALL HAVE TO SEE THEM IN COURT.
IT A, JUST SO YOU KNOW WHAT BOBBY WAS TALKING ABOUT DOWNSTAIRS IN THE COMMISSIONER'S C YOU WOULD LIKE TO TAKE OUT THAT PANEL OF GLASS THAT'S NEXT TO THE PARKING LOT AND IT'S GOT A ROOF OVER IT ALREADY AND EXTEND THAT OUT.
UH, MAKE THE BUILDING WIDE AND TO TAKE THAT GLASS OUT, COME BACK IN WITH BRICK WALLS PROBABLY COME IN THERE, EMERGENCY
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OR SOMETHING THERE AND THEY DO AWAY WITH THE GLASS AND THEN THEY ALSO EXPAND THE SIZE THE TRY THAT WRITE IT UP.AND I DUNNO, SIDEWALK, SIDEWALK IS SIX INCHES SIDEWALK AND IT CUT OUT.
I MEAN, YOU KNOW, CUT OUT THE WINDOWS, WHICH WOULD BE SAFETY ISSUE WHEN WE WRITE IT UP.
WE NEED TO THOSE DOORS THAT'S ALREADY THERE.
AND, AND IT BEING A SOLID WALL.
SO WE'RE GONNA, WE'RE GONNA START ON THAT IF THERE'S, IF THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE THAT Y'ALL WANT.
SO, UM, EVERYTHING I DO IT SO QUICK, JUDGE BEFORE THE OTHER DEPARTMENTS BIGGEST STRUGGLE I HAD WITH THAT PROGRAM, I'VE THINKING ALREADY EXCEPT FOR THE LAST SIX.
SO OF COURSE I KNOW Y'ALL SAY YOU'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT SALARIES, BUT I'M TALKING ABOUT IT.
UM, I'VE ASKED FOR THIS SEVERAL YEARS IN A ROW.
UM, MY DEPARTMENT WAS CREATED WHEN I WAS HIRED AND WE HAD VERY MINIMAL RESPONSIBILITIES.
AND OVER MY TIME HERE WE HAVE INCREASED OUR RESPONSIBILITIES SIGNIFICANTLY.
WE NOW DO SEVERAL THINGS THAT WEREN'T DONE BEFORE IN THE LAST YEAR.
UM, SO I THINK THAT NEEDS TO BE PROGRESSED.
UM, ALSO FOR ME AND MY ASSISTANTS, MY ASSISTANTS IN THE PAST HAVE BEEN PREPARED COMPARED TO CLERKS.
UM, THEY ARE RESPONSIBLE, THEIR RESPONSIBILITIES ARE SIGNIFICANT FOR ALL COUNTY EMPLOYEES.
UM, THEY SCREW UP, THEY SCREW UP A LOT OF THINGS.
SO THEIR JOB RESPONSIBILITIES ARE CRITICAL.
UM, I'VE ATTACHED SOME DIFFERENT, UM, COUNTIES OF OTHER SIZE, SIMILAR SIZES SURROUNDING COUNTIES, EVERYTHING.
AND WE ARE SIGNIFICANTLY BELOW THOSE OTHER COUNTIES.
WE'VE TAKEN OVER, LIKE I SAID, WE'VE TAKEN OVER A LOT OF THINGS WITH THE AFFORDABLE CARE ACT HAD A LOT OF THINGS WE HAD TO MAINTAIN FOR THAT, KEEP UP WITH THAT.
UM, AND THIS LAST YEAR I ALSO OBTAINED MY CERTIFICATION THAT KICKED ME ON MY TOES AND EVERYTHING GOING ON.
SO, UM, I'M ALSO ASKING TO INCREASE OUR MILEAGE RENTAL AND LODGING FOR SO THAT ME AND MY STAFF CAN GO TO ATTEND MORE TRAININGS.
WE HAD IN THIS OUT ON SEVERAL TRAININGS THIS YEAR BECAUSE I DIDN'T HAVE ANY MONEY.
UM, AND WITH THE AFFORDABLE CARE ACT IT'S EVER CHANGING.
NOW THIS NEW FAMILY UNDER STANDARDS ACT EVER CHANGING.
IT'S JUST CONSTANT WITH EMPLOYMENT LAW.
SO I WOULD LIKE TO INCREASE THAT.
UM, TYPICALLY WHEN WE GO TO TRAINING, WE ALL SHARE ROOMS SO I CAN SPEND MONEY AND ATTEND MORE TRAINING.
SO I TRY TO SEE WHERE I CAN, BUT WE STILL MISS OUT ON QUITE A BIT.
AND OF COURSE YOU'VE HEARD THE OTHER COMMENT WE MADE ABOUT SALARY.
RIGHT NOW WE'RE TAKING THOSE KIND OF UNDER ADVISEMENT AND SEE WHERE WE'RE, WHAT WE'RE ABLE TO DO WITH THAT.
YOU'RE NOT ASKING FOR ANY ADDITIONAL PERSONNEL AND, UH, 4,500.
I KNOW THERE'S SOME SCHOOLS AND NOT BEEN ABLE TO GO THROUGH, YOU DIDN'T HAVE THE BUDGET AMOUNT, UH, AVAILABLE.
BUT I, UH, I DO THINK THAT'S A LEGITIMATE REQUEST.
THE, THE, THE REASON I ASKED FOR, AND I'M NOT ASKING FOR AN INCREASE OF 4,500, I'M ASKING FOR IT TO BE 4,500.
THAT WILL AT LEAST GET US TO AT LEAST TWO MORE TRAININGS THAT WE MISSED OUT ON THIS YEAR.
IS EVERYBODY OKAY WITH THAT? WE CAN JUST INCREASE IT TRAINING.
I DO WANNA ASK, UM, SO I KNOW WE HAVEN'T GOT OUR INSURANCE RENEWALS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, BUT I'VE BEEN APPROACHED BY SEVERAL AND I, I THINK ABOUT FIVE OR SIX THAT OF OTHER INSURANCE COMPANIES THAT WANT TO COME IN AND OFFER OUR BUSINESS AND TALK ABOUT WHAT THEY CAN OFFER SIMILAR TO SUPPLEMENTAL INSURANCE LIKE WE HAVE WITH COLONIAL, WE'VE HAD COLONIAL FOR 20 PLUS YEARS.
I'M HAPPY WITH THEIR SERVICES.
I DON'T KNOW A LOT ABOUT INSURANCE.
IT'S ALL, THEY'RE ALL OFFERING THE SAME TYPE OF INSURANCE AND OF COURSE ALL THEIR COSTS VARY ON DIFFERENT THINGS.
BUT I DIDN'T KNOW WHEN Y'ALL WANTED TO
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DISCUSS THAT OR ALL I'M TELLING 'EM RIGHT NOW IS THAT I WILL TAKE THEIR, ALL OF THEIR INFORMATION THEY GIVE ME AND I'LL PRESENT THAT TO YOU GUYS FOR Y'ALL TO CONSIDER IF Y'ALL WANT TO CHANGE IS FOR THE EMPLOYEE PAID.THIS IS A SUPPLEMENT INSURANCE AND IT'S COMPLETELY EMPLOYEE PAID.
DEBT COUNTY HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH IT.
I'LL SAY ONE THING, NOTHING TO DO WITH ABOUT THEM, BUT I KNOW
YEAH, HAPPY AS, I MEAN I I HAVE COMPLAINTS FROM EMPLOYEE THAT COLONIAL AND DIDN'T GET PAID OUT WHAT THEY THOUGHT THEY WERE GETTING PAID OUT.
THEY NOT HAVE STORY LIKE JOINTS THAT YEAH, IT'S SIGNIFICANT.
SO I MEAN I THINK THAT'S ANY INSURANCE COMPANY, UM, PEOPLE DON'T REALLY UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY'RE GETTING.
BUT WE HAVE A LOT OF THINGS WITH COLONIAL.
COLONIAL DOES OUR, UM, CAFETERIA PLAN COLONIAL DOES OUR RENEWAL PROGRAM, LIKE OUR SOFTWARE THAT WE DO FOR OPEN ENROLLMENT.
I PERSONALLY WOULD NOT LIKE TO CHANGE THE BENEFITS THAT WE OFFER COLONIAL, BUT UM, IN THE PAST THEY HAVE OFFERED MULTIPLE COMPANIES.
IT KIND OF WENT SOUTH WITH AFLAC A AND COLONIAL AND BEING LIKE A BIDDING BETWEEN EMPLOYEES, EMPLOYEES ARE CONFUSED.
SO WE ENDED UP CANCELING AFLAC BECAUSE WE HAD LESS EMPLOYEES.
WE HAVE ABOUT 200 PLUS EMPLOYEES THAT HAVE SOME LINE OF COVERAGE WITH COLONIAL RIGHT NOW.
SO, BUT I HAVE A LOT OF COMPANIES THAT ARE OFFERING GREAT BENEFITS, YOU KNOW, TWO EMPLOYEES, TEAM INSURANCE, COVERAGES, ALL KINDS OF STUFF.
SO I HATE TO TELL EM NO, BUT AT THE SAME TIME I DON'T DO YOU EVERYTHING.
DOES T RECOMMEND OR NOT RECOMMEND? SOME OF THESE COMPANIES IS COMING TO YOU.
THEY DON'T DO SOMETHING INSURANCE DO.
AND WE HAVE OUR LIFE INSURANCE.
LAST YEAR WE LOOKED INTO, UM, CHANGING OUR LAB INSURANCE BECAUSE WE UM, HAD MOVED OVER OUR DENTAL WITH TAX AND NOW WE HELP DENTAL ATTACK AND THEIR VISION COVERAGE.
THEY DON'T REALLY OFFER VISION COVERAGE.
SO WE KEPT OUR VISION, BUT THEIR LAB INSURANCE, WE LOOKED INTO SWITCHING.
SO WE CAN HAVE ALL OF OUR LINES OF COVERAGE WITH TAX BECAUSE IT JUST MAKES THINGS COME OUT EASIER.
BUT THEY, THEY, OUR LIFE INSURANCE WERE GOOD RATES AND THEY, THAT'S WHAT THE COUNTY PAYS FOR.
BUT THAT'S WHERE THEY'RE SUPPLEMENTAL.
THEY DON'T HAVE ANYTHING THEY CAN COMPARE IT TO.
I MEAN AT LEAST EVERY DAY I GET A PHONE CALL OR A VISIT FROM SOME COMPANY THAT WANTS TO OFFER THEIR COVERAGE TO US, TO THEIR, TO OUR EMPLOYEES AND THE, THE BIGGEST BENEFIT THAT WE HAVE USING, USING THEM INSTEAD OF JUST SAYING WE WANT THIS, HERE'S SOME CARDS AND CAN GO GET IT.
'CAUSE IF THEY OFFER IT THROUGH THE EMPLOYER FOR THE PAYROLL DEDUCTION, THEY GET A GROUP DATE.
IF I OFFER, IF I TELL 'EM, YOU KNOW, JUST GO GET IT, THEN THEY DON'T GET IT.
THAT'S ASKING WHAT'S THE BIG BENEFIT.
NOW THERE WAS ONE COMPANY THAT UM, CAME AND CAME AND TALKED TO ME AND SAID THAT THEY DO NOT HAVE TO DO IT IN THE, SO THAT PARTICULAR COMPANY COULD JUST GIVE THEIR INFORMATION OUT AND THAT EMPLOYEE COULD GO READ THOSE BENEFITS WITHOUT HAVING IT THROUGH THE COMPANY AND US OFFERING IT.
SO THAT'S THERE, THERE WAS ONE COMPANY TO DO THAT, BUT THE, ALL THE OTHERS ARE, AND THEY GIVE A DISCOUNT SIGN, SIGN UP AND I MEAN IT'S LIKE YOU'RE COMPAR TO APPLES.
I DON'T THEY ALL OFFER OFFER CANCER POLICIES.
THEIR CANCER POLICY MAY BE CHEAPER, BUT THEIR LACK INSURANCE IS CHEAPER AND ALREADY CONFUSED ON HOW MANY DIFFERENT INSURANCE WE OFFER.
AND SO WE HAVE, WE OUT THAT SOME OF THEM CAN ACTUALLY AFFORD 15 AND INCREASING IT.
WE DIDN'T, WE DIDN'T INCREASE 1500, YOU KNOW, GOT CATARACT.
IT'S JUST THAT THOUGH, $1,500 DEDUCTIBLE AND THEN YOU HAVE A 3,500 OUT POCKET.
SO BEFORE THEY'RE COVERING POOLING THEY HAVE TO POINT OUT 5,000.
HOW IS OUR WORKER'S COMP THING? HAVE YOU HEARD ANYTHING? I'VE HEARD ANYTHING.
WE'RE DOING PRETTY GOOD THOUGH.
WE'VE HAD A COUPLE BAD ONES, BUT I GOT A QUESTION ABOUT OUR WORK WORKERS' COMP DOCTORS.
IS THERE ANYTHING WE CAN DO ABOUT THIS? I'VE BEEN WORKING ON IT.
UM, THE PROBLEM IS, IS THAT WE DON'T HAVE FACILITIES.
NOBODY WILL TAKE OUR, NOBODY WILL TAKE WORKER'S COMP.
SO THE ONLY ONE THAT WILL TAKE ON WORKERS' COMP WAS, UM, THE ONLY IMPORTANT THAT WE HAD.
THEY DON'T, WE THEY DON'T HAVE A CHOICE TO GO TO THEIR OWN DOCTOR AND NO, BECAUSE WE'RE, BECAUSE WE'RE PART OF THE ALLIANCE WITH TECH, YOU'VE GOTTA BE A MEMBER OF THEIR ALLIANCE.
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THAT IS ON OUR ALLIANCE THAT HAS BEEN APPROVED AS A WORKERS' COMP.WHERE'S THE ENGINEERS DOCTOR? WHERE? MESQUITE.
YOU MAY NOT MAKE IT ANY BETTER.
AND THE ONE WE'RE DOING, THE ONE WE'RE DOING NOW IS JUST EMPLOYING MEDICAL CARE.
AND I DID SEVERAL COMPLAINTS AND I OH YEAH, I TRIED TO ADDRESS IT.
I I I'VE TRIED, WE WERE IN THE WORK ACTUALLY TRYING TO GET CONNECTED WITH THE GENERAL HOSPITAL AND ALL THAT SHUT DOWN
SO IT'S KIND OF FUNNY THAT, YOU KNOW, I I KNOW YOU'VE HAD A COUPLE COMPLAINTS THAT, YOU KNOW, MOST PEOPLE GO THERE, A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE FOR THEIR JUST NORMAL MEDICAL PROCEDURE.
BUT WHEN YOU HAVE WORKMAN'S COMP ISSUES, YOU'RE WELL AWARE, YOU KNOW, THEY, WELL, WE'LL GIVE YOU A MRI BUT IT'S GOING TO BE SIX WEEKS FROM NOW.
WELL THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S OH YEAH.
AND THEN BY THAT TIME YOUR INJURIES ALREADY STARTING TO HEAL OR HAS HEALED AND THEN THEY DO THE MR MRI AND SAY, OH YEAH, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO BUST THAT UP AND START ALL OVER AGAIN.
YOU GONNA HAVE TO HAVE SURGERY AND YOU GOING BE OUT AND WORK FOR A YEAR.
THAT'S THE ONE THEY WOULD'VE ADDRESS IT PROCEDURE.
THAT'S, THEY WOULD'VE ADDRESSED IT IMMEDIATELY.
THEY WENT IN THERE AND DONE THE SURGERY AND IT BEEN BACK TO WORK FOR SIX.
DID SOMEBODY BEEN THROUGH THAT? YEAH, IT'S, IT'S, I GOT, I HAD ONE LAST YEAR.
NOW IT TAKES A WHILE TO GET THINGS APPROVED.
SO I MEAN YOU HAVE TO GO TO LIKE TWO DOCTORS BEFORE YOU CAN EVEN GET AN MRI AND THEN THE MRI HAS TO BE APPROVED.
SO IT'S JUST, THAT'S JUST WORKERS' COMP PROCEDURE.
YOU HAVE A AND 99% OF THE TIME SHOULDER SEPARATION OR SOMETHING TO THE NEXT EMERGENCY ROOM USUALLY GIVE THEM MY MEDICAL CARD.
99% OF THE TIME THEY WILL NOT DO AN MRI BEFORE THEY DO PHYSICAL THERAPY.
THEY'LL DO X-RAYS OF H BROKEN AND DO PHYSICAL THERAPY AND THEN THEY'RE STILL NOT BETTER THAN THEY'LL YEAH.
AND THEN THEY DO SURGERY AND THEN YOUR EMPLOYEE'S OUT A WHOLE YEAR.
YOU CAN'T REPLACE, Y'ALL HAD ANY PROBLEM WITH THAT? OH, WE WORK AND SHE, SHE'S AWARE OF ALL, WE MAKE SURE SHE GETS ALL THE COMPLAINTS AND EVERYTHING IF WE WANT, WE STAY ON IT THE BEST WE CAN.
UM, THEY DON'T TALK TO ME A LOT BECAUSE THE DOCTORS HAVE TO TALK TO THE ADJUSTER.
SO, BUT I'M IN CONSTANT COMMUNICATION WITH OUR, WHO NEGOTIATES THE CONTRACT BETWEEN THAT PLACE AND THEM.
YEAH, BUT IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT THE DOCTORS.
THAT'S JUST THE PROCEDURES I GUESS.
A LOT OF IT'S THE WORKER'S COMP RULE.
IT'S NOT THE DOCTOR OR PROCEDURE'S COMP YOU GOT GO THROUGH OTHERWISE THEN YOU, YOU'RE ALLOWED, YOU'RE ON HOOK FOR EVERYTHING GOING ON.
IT COULD BE, IT COULD BE UNDER THE TEXAS WORKFORCE COMMISSION.
IT COULD BE THAT'S WHO WHOLE OF WORKERS' COMP REGULATIONS.
WHOEVER MADE THE RULES OF IT, IT'S ALL IN FAVOR OF THE PERSON.
YEAH, WELL THEY'RE TRYING TO DRAG IT OUT FOR PEOPLE THAT DON'T REALLY HAVE THE INJURY THAT'S KIND PUSHING THE ISSUE MAKES IT GO AWAY.
WE MAKE A LIVING OFF THAT SOMEBODY'S REALLY HURT NEEDS TO BE AT END.
BUT AS FAR AS I KNOW, OUR RATES ARE GOOD.
AND WE SHOULD BE GETTING OUR INSURANCE RATES PRETTY, PRETTY QUICKLY.
WORKERS COMP WE WON'T HAVE FOR A WHILE, BUT JUST KEEP IN MIND THOUGH, IF YOU ARE LOOKING AT DOING SALARIES AND THIS WHAT HAPPENED LAST YEAR, OUR WORKERS' COMP RENEWAL RATE IS GREAT, BUT WHEN WE DO SALARY INCREASES, THAT INCREASES OUR PERFORM COMP WORKERS' COMP RATE BASED.
SO, BUT THE RATE ITSELF IS GOING HOPEFULLY SO ALSO EVERYBODY TAKES 10% PIG CUT WILL GET CHEAPER INSURANCE.
THAT'D BE THE HEADLINES IN THE STORY.
ALRIGHT, LAURIE, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
I THINK WE GOT THE HIGH SHERIFF AND LOW SHERIFF HERE.
IS THAT RIGHT? I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THAT ONE.
THE SHERIFF IS STILL THE SHERIFF FOR SIX MONTHS ALL HOW ARE Y'ALL DOING? WE DOING OKAY? HE YOU'RE NOT, YOU'RE NOT THE ONLY ONE THAT'S NOT, THAT'S NOT WHAT'S NOT AS AS AS HE TALKED A WHILE AGO.
THESE RIGHT HERE SHOULD BE IN YOUR OWN BOOK.
YEAH, I TWO OTHER, WE NEED THE OTHER ONE.
WE JUST NEED TO, THIS IS THE ONE WE PREPARED.
WE JUST DO ANYTHING YOU BETTER LAY SIDE BESIDE I ONE'S FOR WHAT'S THE ONE IN OUR BOOK? WELL, THE ONE IN THE BOOK YOU DIDN'T TRANSFER IT TO HERE WITH, TO THE BUDGET.
WHATEVER NUMBER SHE GETS IS WHAT WE PUT ON THERE.
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THEY'RE NOT IN THE BOOK IS JUST NUMBERS THAT ARE HERE.SEND US IN AN EMAIL TRANSFERRED IT.
I JUST, SO THE NUMBERS THAT YOU HAVE IN THIS BOOK HAVE BEEN TRANSFERRED TO BUT YOU'RE OPENING UP BUSINESS ONE.
AND THE FIRST PART IS THE SHERIFF SHERIFF'S OFFICE, THE FIRST TAB, WHICH IS FIVE 60 WITH THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE BUDGET.
THIS IS THE SAME BUDGET YOU'RE BEEN GETTING FOR THE LAST SIX YEARS AS FAR AS HOW PRESENTED AND LAID OUT AND UH, WHICH YOU CAN SEE WHERE WENT 1415 AND THEN WHAT WE'RE REQUESTING THIS YEAR.
AND THEN THE, ANY CHANGES IN THE DIFFERENCE OFF TO THE SIDE.
UH, I GUESS IF YOU WANNA GO DOWN TO ANY CHANGES, BECAUSE EVERYTHING ELSE WOULD STAYED THE SAME WOULD BE THE GAS AND OIL IN WHICH WE ALL KNOW THAT THE GAS AND OIL IS ROUGH RATE AND WE'VE ALWAYS KIND OF SET, UH, WE THINK THAT WE CAN PROBABLY MAKE IT TO, WE CUT 25,000 OUT OF IT.
UH, BECAUSE AS RIGHT NOW WE'VE ACTUALLY USED 80 81 DURING THAT TIMEFRAME.
BUT IF YOU LOOK YEAR TO DATE AS TODAY WHEN I PRINTED IT, UH, WE WANT 112,000 IS WHAT WE USED.
SO THAT'S WHY WE DECIDED WE BETTER NOT CUT IT TOO MUCH, UH, JUST TO BE SAFE.
UH, BECAUSE IT'S, WHEN WE DID THIS, IT WAS AT $3 A GALLON AND I, YOU KNOW, I, PEOPLE TALKING AND FORECASTING, THEY THINK IT'S GONNA GET BACK UP BETTER.
SO THEN WHEN YOU DO THAT, THE ONLY THING IS WITH THE LAW ENFORCEMENT LIABILITY, IT WAS A LITTLE BIT MORE EXPENSIVE THIS YEAR THAN WHAT WE HAD BUDGET.
SO WE WENT AHEAD AND MOVED IT UP.
UH, THEN EVERYTHING ELSE IS STAYING THE SAME, UH, UNTIL YOU GET TO THE, UH, EXCHANGE CARS, UH, PUTTING THAT IN THERE.
AND I, I'VE MENTIONED WHAT YOU TOLD ME THE OTHER DAY ABOUT YOUR CONVERSATION WITH CHIEF LAY AND TERRELL ABOUT THE POSSIBILITY OF A NEW WAY OF DOING POLICE VEHICLES.
AND I'VE GOT THE LAYOUT WHEN WE GET TO THE FLEET, IF Y'ALL WANT TO DISCUSS THAT WHEN WE GET TO THE FLEET.
I I'VE GOT THAT ALL LAID OUT THERE.
SO IF THERE'S ANY QUESTION IN THE FIVE 60, NO.
OKAY, EVERYBODY, WE'LL MOVE TO THE NEXT ONE.
I THINK THE NEXT ONE IS THAT IF EVERYBODY KNOWS THIS IS HOW WE DETAIL IT OUT OF WHAT'S LINE ITEMS, WHAT FURNITURE EACH ONE POSTED THE GAS, UH, IT'S THE SAME THING AS IT WAS LAST YEAR, BUT THIS DETAIL ORIENTED FROM EACH LINE ITEM EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE SPENDING OUT OF.
AND THEN THE THIRD TAB IS THE FLEET.
UH, WE KIND OF LOOKED AT DIFFERENT OPTIONS.
UH, WE'RE PRETTY GOOD AT TRYING TO SAVE MONEY IN THE BEST OPTION THAT WE CAN, BUT WE'RE LOOKING AT TRYING TO PURCHASE FOUR VEHICLES OR 10 VEHICLES.
FOUR OF 'EM WILL BE TRANSPORT, FOUR OF 'EM WILL BE PATROLS AND TWO OF 'EM IS COMMERCIAL MOTOR VEHICLES.
THEM TRUCKS ARE, SO EVERYBODY KNOWS WHEN YOU SAY TRANSPORT, THAT'S WHEN YOU GO PICK SOMEBODY UP AT, AT OUTTA STATE FROM ANYWHERE FROM SAN ANTONIO OR EL PASO OR WHATEVER.
OR WHEN YOU OR ANY JUST USED TO BRING TO THE COURTHOUSE HERE FROM THE JAIL.
AND PICK UP THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY BECAUSE WE'RE MANDATED ANYTHING CLASS B OR ABOVE, PICK THEM UP IN 20 AND BRING THEM BACK.
AND ARE MANY OF THESE CARS THAT HAVE BEEN ON PATROL THAT ARE NOW BEEN MOVED? YEAH, IF YOU LOOK AT THE TRANSPORTS VEHICLES, YOU CAN SEE THE MILEAGE ON 1 46, 1 22, 1 14, 1 12.
AND THIS IS, THIS IS OUR IDEAL, UH, OF WHAT WE'RE THINKING.
IF WE GO WITH THE TWO, WITH THE ONE OPTION UP HERE, WHICH LET'S COVER THE OPTIONS REAL QUICK.
THE TAHOES, WE CAN SEE THE TAHOES.
THE TAHOES WENT UP $5,000 A VEHICLE THIS YEAR, WHICH IS JUST, I WOULD SAY I WOULDN'T DO IT HONESTLY.
UH, SO WE STARTED LOOKING AT THE PICKUPS.
NOW THEY HAVE MADE SPECIAL UTILITY VEHICLES THAT ARE SUPER RATED TRUCKS.
UH, THEY SAVE ABOUT $7,000 A VEHICLE.
SO WE'RE LOOKING AT ABOUT $70,000 RIGHT THERE, UH, AND GOING WITH THE PICKUP.
AND THIS IS ALSO PUTTING A SHELL ON THE BACK OF IT.
AND, UH, IT COMPLETELY EQUIPPED.
THE ONLY THING THAT, UH, IT'S NOT INCLUDED IN THIS IS RADIO, BUT WE BOUGHT RADIOS.
WE'LL TRANSFER THE RADIO FROM THAT AND PUT IT IN THE VEHICLE.
WHY DON'T WE GO WITH CARS? LOOK, LOOKING AT THE CARS, THEY'RE NOT HOLDING UP AND ON OUR ROAD STUFF, WE HADN'T HAD A CAR.
IF YOU TALK TO EVERY COUNTY AROUND HERE, AND I'VE TALKED TO BODE AND EVERYBODY, THEY'VE EVEN TRIED TO FORD, UH, WHAT IS THAT EXPEDITION OR WHATEVER, SAME THING CALLED.
UH, THEY'VE GOT NINE OF THEM AND HE HATES ALL NINE OF 'EM.
THEY'VE HAD NOTHING BUT TROUBLE IN HENDERSON COUNTY.
BO TALKING TO POLICE OFFICER IN AND INNOCENT AND THEY'VE ALL GONE TO, TO THE EXPEDITIONS.
WELL THEY, I ASKED HIM ABOUT, YOU
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KNOW, DURABILITY AND STUFF.HE SAID THEY DIDN'T HAVE AN ISSUE.
OF COURSE THEY'VE ONLY BEEN OUT, I GUESS A COUPLE YEARS.
YOU KNOW, AS A PURSUIT RATED VEHICLE.
WELL I, I TRIED TO TALK TO THE PEOPLE THAT OVER THE MAINTENANCE PART BECAUSE LOGGING PEACE OFFICERS DON'T KNOW.
I MEAN THEY, THEY DRIVE 'EM BUT THEY DON'T, WITH THEM, THEY DON'T FIX 'EM.
THEY DON'T SEE THE MAINTENANCE OF THEM.
AND ONE PERSON MIGHT BE HAVING PROBLEMS, THE OTHER PERSON MIGHT NOT.
SO TALKING WITH BODE AND HIM ALL NIGHT, HE, HE HAD PROBLEMS WITH HIM.
BODE IS THE SHERIFF, THE NEW SHERIFF.
HE KNEW SHERIFF, UH, SHERIFF NUTTY HAS STUFF DOWN AND HIS SHERIFF HAS THE PERSON.
UH, BUT HE TOLD THE CHECKING FLEET AND HE SAYS HE HE WILL NEVER BUY ANOTHER FOREST AGAIN.
AND THEY'VE GOT ABOUT THE SAME, THE SAME ROADS AS WE'VE GOT AND THEY COVER ABOUT A LITTLE BIT BIGGER AREA THAN WE ARE AND PUTTING ABOUT THE SAME MILEAGE ON THEM.
AND THEY THOUGHT, OH, IF THEY HAVE THE CROWN VIC, WE HAD GOOD LUCK WITH THE CROWN.
THAT'S ONE OF THE BEST POLICE VEHICLES THEY EVER MADE.
BUT THEY DON'T MAKE IT ANYMORE.
SO THE CARS ARE JUST, WE, YOU CAN LOOK AT 'EM, BUT WE'LL SPEND MORE MONEY ON WHAT WE DID.
WE DID THAT WITH THE, UH, IMPALAS AND ALL THE OTHER WE DID BEFORE.
SO THE PICKUPS YOU FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH, UH, USING THEM ON PATROL? YEAH.
I MEAN THEY, THEY PURSUIT RATE.
WE GOT TWO MANAGER COMMERCIAL MOTOR VEHICLES.
YEAH, I KNEW THE, THE TWO COMMERCIALS, THEY REALLY WEREN'T POLICE.
THEY WERE READY TO PICK UP ONE.
NO, THEY COULDN'T GET PURSUITS OR NOTHING.
I'LL TELL YOU ONE I CAN SEE OVER A PICKUP VERSUS THAT THEY DRIVING THOSE, I PROMISE YOU THE RESALE VALUE 'EM ARE GONNA BE 10 DOWN BETTER THAN THAT CAR.
WE CAN, WE CAN FURNISH THESE OFFICERS GLOVES AND THEY HAVE, THEY GOT GRAND WITH TIRES AND STUFF AND TRAILER HITCHES, YOU KNOW, THEY TRAILER AND THESE ONES BE TWO WHEEL DRIVE.
NO, BUT YOU PUT A CAMPER, WELL JUST PUT A HARD SHE A SHELL ON THE A SHELL ON THE COTTON.
YOU KNOW, YOU AS YOU THINK ABOUT IT, YOU DRIVE IT AROUND.
I KNOW IN DALLAS COUNTY YOU SEE QUITE A FEW PICKUPS.
THERE'S A LOT OF, I'VE CALLED AND TALKED TO PEOPLE THAT'S ALREADY GOT THESE IN SERVICE AND THEY'RE LIKING, THEY THEY'VE HAD YOUR LUCK.
I DIDN'T EVEN KNOW THEY MADE A PACKAGE PICK.
THEY JUST STARTED, THEY HAD JUST STARTED.
NO CHEVROLET UH, FORD HAD TO COME OUT WITH THEIRS AND DODGE HAS COME OUT ONE, BUT THEY HADN'T GAVE ME A PRICE YET.
THEY SAID THEY'RE GONNA, PROB TALKING TO THEM IS GONNA BE A LITTLE BIT HIGH.
I'D RATHER DODGE RESALE MAY GOOD ONLY ONE.
I NEVER, THAT'S WHAT I CALL THE DODGE.
BUT THAT'S WHAT WE'RE THINKING.
IF WE LOOKED AT THE TRUCKS, WHAT WE WOULD DO IS PUT ALL 10 OF THEM ON PATROL AND PUT THE TWO COMMERCIAL MOTOR VEHICLE WE GOT TAKE ANY FOUR LOADS, TAHOES AND PUTTING THEM IN TRANSPORT ON THE STREET.
AND THAT WAY WE GET EVERYTHING ON THERE AND GET OUR TRANSPORT.
ALRIGHT, SO YOU'VE GOT 10 VEHICLES HERE.
AND THESE 10 WOULD GO OFF THE ROAD? YES SIR.
AND THEY WOULD GO TO THE NEXT AUCTION? YES.
WHEN YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT THIS THING ABOUT WHAT, UH, TALKING WITH JODY LAY, UH, UH, HIS FLEET GUY, WHICH WE'RE TRYING TO GET WITH HIM.
I GUESS THERE'S SOME BIG LISA, HAVE YOU HEARD ABOUT THIS? HE COME BY MY OFFICE AND WAS KIND, FILLED ME A LITTLE BIT.
I'VE GOTTA GET WITH HIM BECAUSE THERE'S SOME ASSOCIATION TO JOIN AS FAR AS FLEET MANAGERS IN US.
UH, AND TERRO HAS JOINED THIS.
WHAT THEY'RE LOOKING AT IS A THREE YEAR PERIOD WE'RE DOING THERE.
LOCAL TERRIBLE THREE YEAR DEAL.
WHAT THEY, THEY CAN BUY MORE POLICE CARS, BUT IN A THREE YEAR OBJECTIVE THEY SAID THEY CAN CLOSE, THEY CAN SAVE ALMOST 200,000 BUCKS AND PROVIDE THE POLICE VEHICLES.
UH, THE WAY IT WORKS IS YOU BUY A VEHICLE, UH, WHATEVER VEHICLES YOU WANT, THEY EQUIP THEM HOW YOU WANT, UH, THEY SEND 'EM TO YOU AND THEN WITHIN THREE YEARS YOU'LL SWAP THAT OUT.
UH, BUT THERE'S AN OPTION AT THE END THAT IT'S LEASED THE PURCHASE.
YOU EITHER BUY A FOR A DOLLAR OR THEY'LL BUY IT BACK FOR 10,000.
WELL THAT'S A GREAT THING RIGHT THERE BECAUSE I'M TELLING YOU WITH THE NEW, YOUR CAR ISN'T WORTH 10,000.
SO THAT'S WHAT I'M HEARING NOW.
I DON'T HAVE THE WHOLE, I'M TRYING TO GET THE WHOLE PLAN WHERE WE CAN ALL LOOK AT IT.
UH, BUT IF, THE BIG THING ABOUT THAT IS, Y'ALL REMEMBER WHEN WE SELL THE POLICE CAR, NOW WE'VE GOTTA TAKE, THE LAW HAS CHANGED ON THAT.
WE'VE GOTTA TAKE ALL THE ALL SPOTLIGHTS.
YOU GOTTA TAKE ALL THIS STUFF OFF AND NOW WE'VE GOT ALL THESE EXTRA ITEMS THAT WE GOTTA TRY SELLING AND WHICH NOBODY'S GONNA BUY AND SELL IT FROM THE PEOPLE THAT BOUGHT THE HOME.
SO, BUT ALL THE LIGHTS, SIREN, I MEAN ALL THIS STUFF THAT WE'VE GOT, I MEAN IF WE GOT AN OPTION TO, THEY BUY IT BACK FOR 10,000 AND TAKE IT.
AND WE, I MEAN THERE'S NO WAY WE'D MAKE THAT KIND OF MONEY GET RID OF ALL DO THEY TAKE THE WE HAVE TO TAKE THE ITEMS BACK OFF? NO, THEY TAKE IT, THEY TAKE, THEY TAKE THE CAR BACK AS THEY PRESENT IT TO, ONLY THING WE'D TAKE OUT IS A RADIO.
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OH, SO IT ALREADY COMES WITH THE YES.EVERYTHING ON IT COMES WITH EVERYTHING ON IT AS WE REQUEST IT.
WELL, WHAT WE NEED TO KNOW IS THAT WHAT IT COST THIS MONTH.
I DON'T KNOW, I JUST GOT THIS DETAILS BECAUSE I WAS CALLING AND, AND ASKING ABOUT DO THEY, UH, VEHICLES.
I DON'T, I WOULD THINK IT'D BE WARRANTY FROM FORD OR CHEVROLET OR WHOEVER.
WE GET 'EM FROM THE NORMAL WARRANTY.
UH, I THINK THAT WOULD FALL INTO IT.
BUT AFTER THAT, I, I'M NOT SURE NOW WIRING AND ALL THAT, THAT'S GONNA BE A YEAR LIKE IT IS ON ANYTHING WE GET.
I THOUGHT MAYBE, MAYBE THEY'LL TAKE CARE OF IT.
YOU KNOW, THERE ARE SOME FLEET POLICIES OUT YOU BRING BRING THEM, BRING IN THAT TRUCK AND THEY COME TAKE IT BACK.
WHEN IT'S OUTFITTED, WHAT'S IT COSTING US? A FREE UNIT? 54,000.
WELL THE ONLY THING ABOUT THAT, LIKE ONLY PATROL VEHICLES, YOU HAVE OH, EIGHT MILES HERE WITH ABOUT 168 TO HUNDRED 96,000 MILES.
WELL THAT'S 20 TO 22,000 MILES A YEAR.
THEY'RE PUTTING ON THE ROAD EIGHT YEARS.
THESE HAVE BEEN RUNNING FOR A WHILE.
WELL, I MEAN, THEY'RE ALL EIGHT MODELS AND IT'S SIX.
WELL, THOSE ARE TRANSPORT I'M TALKING ABOUT, THAT'S WHERE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THESE NEW VEHICLES.
SO IF YOU DID THOSE FOR THREE YEARS, YOU'D HAVE A VEHICLE WITH ABOUT 66,000 MILES ON IT.
SO IS THAT VEHICLE ONLY GONNA BE WORTH $10,000 IF YOU GOTTA STARTING OUT WITH A 38,000? WELL, YOU GOTTA LOOK, SOME OF THESE RIGHT HERE ARE ALSO SPARE CARS BECAUSE WE WE'RE PICKING THE HIGH MILEAGE.
WHAT, WHAT SOME OF THESE TAHOE, I'M JUST LOOKING AT.
YOU KNOW, IT'S BEEN SITTING FOR A COUPLE YEARS.
I MEAN, THERE'S SPARE CARS, MIND IT'S BEEN SITTING.
WE'RE GONNA MAKE SPARES AND ONLY USE ONE.
WHAT DO YOU ONE Y'ALL, YOU AT THE TAHOE? HERE? CHEVY TAHOE OF 15.
UH, THE OTHER FIFTEENS NUMBER 1415 UNIT IS 30.
WHAT PAGE YOU ON? I RIGHT PAST YOU SEE THE NO, YOU'RE IN THE SAME, SAME BLOCK RIGHT THERE.
KEEPING THAT LOOK TOWARDS BACK.
YEAH, THAT ONE RIGHT THERE IS TURN THAT PAGE THERE.
AND THE NEXT ONE IS ALL THE FULL ONES WITH THE MILEAGE ON ATION.
WHO'S IN THE SHOT? AND THEN THE HIGHLIGHTED ONES IS WHAT WE'VE HIGHLIGHTED, UH, THAT ARE OVER THE ONE 50 MARK.
BUT YOU CAN SEE, I MEAN, 14 TRUCKS DOWN THERE THAT GOT TWO 4,000 MILES, THEY'VE ALL GOT ALMOST SAME IDENTICAL MILE.
YEAH, THEY'RE, THEY'RE ALL CLOSE TOGETHER.
IS THAT THE DOG PICKER? YOU TWO ONE AND TWO.
SO, UH, WHEN DID WE, YOU KNOW, WHEN, LIKE THAT ONE, THAT 15, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE PUT THAT THING IN SERVICE, WAS IT DECEMBER 15TH? NO, I THINK WE DIDN'T GET 'EM IN.
I MEAN, DECEMBER IT HAD, IS THAT THE MILEAGE IT HAD IN DECEMBER 20TH, 1000 289? YES.
THAT NOW APRIL AND APRIL IT HAS, UH, 39,400.
I THINK WE GOT 18 DOWN THREE MONTHS.
I MEAN, WE'RE TRYING, I MEAN, YOU DON'T WANNA RUN 24 7.
TRY NOT TO RUN 24 7 IF WE THREE AND THEY GONNA GIVE US 10,000.
YOU WANNA THES OFF OF DON'T PROBLEM THAT WE'RE DOING.
THAT MIGHT BE THE OPTION WHERE WE CAN DO THAT.
THAT MIGHT BE THE OPTION WHERE WE CAN REALLY, REALLY SAVE SOME MONEY BECAUSE WE CAN CUT BACK ON THE NUMBER OF CARS INSTEAD OF HAVING HUNDRED.
IT'S PROBABLY NOT A BIGGER DEAL.
IT'S PROBABLY SOME COMPANY THAT'S SET UP LEASE, LEASE THAT DEAL.
YEAH, PROBABLY AFTER THE WARRANTY.
THAT'S WHAT I, LIKE I SAID, I BROUGHT THIS SOMETHING TO LOOK INTO ABOUT ALL
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HE HASN'T 20% SPARE YOU WOULDN'T NEED BUT 10% SPARE.YOU GOING HAVE TO HAVE FOREVER.
I CAN TELL YOU THAT RIGHT NOW BECAUSE WE, WE HAVE ONE GO DOWN ALMOST ON EVERY SHIFT JUST FOR SOMETHING.
YOU GOTTA DOWN, SO YOU GOTTA AT LEAST HAVE ONE FOR EVERY SHIFT.
AND THAT'S WHAT WE TRY TO DO, HAVE ONE VEHICLE FOR EVERY SHIFT.
I SAY IT'S DEFINITELY SOMETHING TO LOOK AT.
HAVE AND HOW DO YOU DISTRIBUTE 'EM AND, AND HOW, YOU KNOW, HOW MANY HOURS THAT PLACE MIGHT GO BROKE AFTER ABOUT NINE YEARS, YOU KNOW, THEY CAN GET COUNTIES ON THERE AND SO THEY SAID THEY'RE MAKING ABOUT CAROL'S FLEET GUYS AND THEY'RE MAKING ABOUT 2,500 TALK.
WELL, IF THEY DO, THAT MIGHT BE ALRIGHT, BUT I DON'T, I DUNNO HOW YOU MAKE MUCH MONEY EVERYBODY GOING WITH THAT.
SO I DON'T, I DUNNO HOW LONG IT'LL LAST.
THAT'S NOT, IT'S GOTTA BE A LOT OF VOLUME.
SELL IT LIKE AN EXTENDED WARRANT.
I KNOW I'VE GOTTA GET WITH HIM.
OH, IF THEY GOT A HUNDRED THOUSAND MILES DO YEAH, THEY'D PUT YOU ON DOWN ABOUT THE SECOND YEAR.
YOU, I'M ALWAYS IDEALLY, BASICALLY IF WE CAN KEEP THE FLEET MOVING, IF ALL DO NOT RUNNING 150 ON THIS CAR LONG RUN, YOU GOT LESS DOWNTIME, LESS MAINTENANCE.
FEWER VEHICLES, LESS INSURANCE.
BUT IF YOU ALSO LOOK AT THE SHEET AT THE VERY FRONT OF THAT, Y'ALL ARE ALWAYS CONCERNED ABOUT VEHICLES.
SO THERE'S THE WHOLE FLEET RIGHT THERE.
THERE'S NINE, SEVEN IN OUR FLEET AND TWO OF TRAILERS.
GO KEEP GOING BACK, RIGHT? ONE MORE.
IT'S THE ONE, RIGHT? LOOKS LIKE THAT, THAT, YEAH, THERE YOU GO.
SO THAT, THAT TELLS THEN, UH, 28 OF 'EM ARE SEIZE VEHICLES AND 71 OF 'EM, UH, THE COUNTY FROM WHICH TWO OF TWO OF THOSE IN THE COUNTY DEAL IS CONSIDERED UNDER A TRUST FUND, WHICH IS FILED OUT THE COMMISSARY FUND FOR THE BUS, THE TWO BUSES.
AND THEN ALSO TWO OF THOSE ARE, UH, CROWN BITS THAT WERE STILL, WE'VE GOT WRECKING USING PARTS, TRYING TO SAVE MONEY.
I MEAN IF WE'RE LUCKY IN THAT TO GO THROUGH AND EVERYTH, WE WON'T EVEN, WE CAN SELL THESE THINGS.
WE DON'T HAVE TO HAVE THEM DO THAT ABOUT THAT CARVE WHO DRIVES.
YEAH, THAT IS, THAT, UH, IS USED UP THERE IN SURVEILLANCE AND STUFF FROM WHAT WE'RE USING NARCOTIC STUFF.
PURPOSE CHECK DOWN, I THINK GOT HIS EYES ON THEY COULD PASS THAT AROUND CARTE.
THE ONLY THING ABOUT THAT IS WHO'S GONNA PULL ME ON THE HOLD UNDERNEATH THE SEIZURE DEAL.
THE PROBLEM WE HAVE WITH THAT IS, UH, LAW ENFORCEMENT PURPOSES.
SO I'M, I'M NOT GOING TO JAIL FOR NOBODY.
ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT, UH, YOU'LL GET BACK WITH US AS SOON AS, AS SOON AS I CAN GET THE WHOLE DETAILS ON THAT.
I WOULD LOVE TO RELAY THAT BECAUSE I'M HOPING IT'S GONNA BE GOOD INFORMATION FOR YOU TOO.
AND THEN ON THE FIVE 60 SIDE, THE NEXT, UH, THE FOURTH TAB, YOU'LL NOTICE THAT THAT'S ALL OF THE POSITIONS, UH, DETAILED OUT THAT WE, UH, NORMALLY DO, WHICH THERE'S, UH, NINE THREE SHERIFF'S POSITION.
YOU'VE GOTTA REMEMBER THAT EIGHT OF THOSE POSITIONS, UH, WHICH IS SEVEN, COMES OUT OF THE 5 62 BUDGET, WHICH IS THE FARNEY, ISD AND THE OTHER ONE IS THE WINDMILL FARM.
WE'VE GOT A CONTRACT FOR THAT, BUT THEY'RE TRULY ONLY NOT 85 BUDGETED POSITION.
THE REST OF THEM ARE OFFSET BY THEMSELVES.
THEY PAY THE WHOLE RETIREMENT WORKER CONTRACT.
I MEAN, WE CAN GET TO THE TAB HERE.
WE'LL HAVE HOW THEY, SOCIAL SECURITY RETIREMENT, EVERYTHING.
AND THEN THE NEXT TAB IS THE 5 61, WHICH IS A DETENTION BUDGET.
THE THE ONLY THING THAT, UH, CHANGES THERE IS WE'RE DROPPING 25,000 IN THE SECURITY EQUIPMENT AND THE MAINTENANCE, UH, WE'RE DROPPING THAT BECAUSE WE'RE NOT FIXING HERE AS MUCH.
STUFF WE'VE GOT IN THE BACK OF THIS, YOU'LL SEE WHERE WE HAVE, UH, THE CAMERAS, UH, BID BACK THERE, UH, FOR $108,000.
WE'VE GOTTA REPLACE OUR CAMERA SYSTEM BACK THERE.
THE DVRS AND ALL THAT STUFF IS OUT DATE.
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THEY'RE 12 YEARS.SO WE'VE GOTTA REPLACE THAT, THAT SYSTEM.
WHERE DID WE HAVE THE LOCKS? UH, THE LOCKS WAS IN THAT ALSO IN THAT SECURITY MAINTENANCE.
WE, WE'VE COMPLETED THE COMPLETE CHANGE OVER THERE.
Y'ALL, Y'ALL WILL SEE THE LAST PART OF THAT.
UH, I THINK IN THIS COMMISSIONER'S DEAL, THERE'S 45,000 TO FINISH THE COMPUTERS AND ALL THE UPGRADE THAT YES.
YOU SHOULD SEE IT ON THE
YEAH, IT WAS BUDGETED AND IT'S, IT IS THE LAST PART OF THE LOCKED STUFF IN THE CONTROL SYSTEM.
COULDN'T EVEN DO IT ANY ANYWAY.
IT'S, IT'S AMAZING WHAT GOES ON BACK THERE.
ELECTRONIC TECHNOLOGY IS NICE, BUT IT'S NEVER ANY, SO IT'S ONE THING ABOUT IT.
SO THAT, THAT WOULD IN, THAT WOULD INCLUDE THAT, THAT PART OF IT.
UH, THEN THE ITEMIZING, THE 5 61 IS THE SAME THING.
YOU ARE USED TO SEEING WHAT WE'RE SPENDING IN EACH, EACH LINE ITEM, UH, WHAT WE DO THERE.
UH, AND THEN THE, THE 45 0 2 5 61, WHICH IS THE THIRD TAB, THAT'S THE BREAKDOWN IN WHICH EVERYBODY, UH, LOOKS AT THE MAINTENANCE CONTRACTS AND INSPECTIONS.
THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT BREAKS DOWN FOR US.
THE EMPLOYEE TESTING THE SATELLITE ON COMMAND TRAILER.
I DID TEXT THE FINGERPRINT, UH, CONTACT CONTRACTS, UH, ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THE, UH, LIFE AND SAFETY EVALUATION OF THE, UH, GENERATORS AND ALL THAT STUFF, THE MAINTENANCE ON THAT.
SO THAT'S A MAINTENANCE CONTRACT IN DOING ALL THAT AND OUR ANNUAL INSPECTION PART SYSTEM AND ALL THAT.
SO IT'S, IT'S UP, IT'S AT 80 1002 25.
AND THEN, UH, THE TOP ROUND AGAIN IS THE POSITIONS OF THE TENSION STAFF, WHICH THERE IS A 125, UH, POSITIONS.
AND THEN THERE'S 120 BUDGETED.
UH, FIVE OF THOSE ARE THE MAINTENANCE PEOPLE.
THAT'S BUDGET OUTTA THE GENERAL BUDGET.
SO THEY ARE, THEY'RE STILL A SHERIFF DEPARTMENT EMPLOYEES, BUT THEY'RE PAID FOR THE GENERAL BUDGET.
THAT WAS DONE WHAT, TWO YEARS AGO I BELIEVE? YES.
MAINTENANCE AREN'T, ARE I HAVEN'T HEARD ABOUT IT.
BUT, UH, I MEAN THE JAIL IS THE BEST MAINTAINED FACILITY.
WE HAVE YOU PROBLEMS OUT THERE THEN WE, I DON'T DO ANYTHING TO MESS THAT UP.
SO, WELL, I DON'T THINK MIGHT WANT MESS THAT UP.
YEAH, BECAUSE I'M TELLING YOU, THE WORKLOAD OUT THERE IS FULL-TIME JOB.
I'M STOPPING BULLETS TO FOUR SEVEN.
SO THEN, THEN YOU SEE ALL THAT.
THEN THE NEXT ONE IS THE 5 62, WHICH IS THE SCHOOL, UH, WHAT YOU WAS TALKING ABOUT.
AND YOU'LL SEE THE BREAKDOWN OF THIS.
AND THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT THE SCHOOL PAYS FOR THE SALARY OF THE DEPUTY SOCIAL SECURITY RETIREMENT UNIFORMS AND ALL THAT.
SO, AND THE SAME THING, THE ITEMIZED BUDGET, WHICH IS THE ONE LINE ITEM.
AND YOU PAY FOR ALL THEIR, WELL, I HAD ONE SCHOOL SYSTEM SO FAR, THAT'S THE ONLY ONE WE USED HAD CURR.
AND THEN THEY OPT OUT OF IT, I GUESS A COUPLE YEARS AGO.
AND THEN, UH, THE REST OF THEM, WELL SOME OF 'EM START THEIR OWN PLACE LIKE, LIKE KAUFMAN.
UH, TERRELL'S GOT THEIR OWN POLICE DEPARTMENT USES CREL.
SO I THINK MAYBANK GOT SCHOOL.
KIM GOT THEIR OWN SCHOOL DISTRICT.
SHERIFF BURNS AT ONE TIME DIDN'T WANT TO DO ANY MORE SCHOOLS IS WHAT HE TOLD ME.
YOU KNOW, BACK WHEN I IN BUSINESS, I TALKED TO HIM AND HE JUST, HE THINK WANTED TO GET OUTTA THE RESOURCE OFFICER BUSINESS.
I DON'T, YOU KNOW, I AND Y'ALL THINK IT'S CHEAPER FOR TO BE IN THE OWN RESOURCE BUSINESS.
I MEAN, IT LOOKS LIKE ME BE CHEAPER.
I WOULD THINK SO IN THE LONG HAUL.
I MEAN, THEY DON'T HAVE TO HIRE ANYBODY.
THEY HAVE TO DO, YOU KNOW, CONSTANT TURNOVER.
WHERE DO THEY GET THEIR TRAINING? SCHOOL.
THEY DO THE SAME TRAINING WITH THEM EVERY TIME.
I MEAN, YOU DISPATCH AND EVERYTHING.
NEY TAKES CARE OF THEIR TRAINING.
DO OTHER CITY SCHOOLS PAY Y'ALL COME TO YOUR TRAINING? NOT, MOST OF THE TIME WE DON'T BECAUSE WE OFFER IT UP FOR 'EM BECAUSE THEY, ESPECIALLY LOCALLY, ALL
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THESE ONES AROUND HERE BECAUSE YOU KNOW, THEY OFFER, SOMETIMES WE GO TO THEIR STUFF.IF YOU REMEMBER WE SENT EVERY OFFICER TO HENDERSON COUNTY OVER THERE AND THEY, THEY DID OUR LEGAL UPDATE AND DIDN'T CHARGE US A DIME.
WE TRIED TO WORK WITH EACH OTHER AND DO THAT.
DID THEY UH, GET ENOUGH COMP TIME WHEN THEY WENT TO WORK RIVER SOMEWHERE? THEY COME WORK, BUT THEY COME WORK WITH OH, BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING THE FOOTBALL GAMES.
YOU GOT MEMBER, THEY FOLLOW THAT BUS.
WHY YOU DO IT NOW, DON'T YOU? FOR ALL THE AFTER HOURS WEEKEND, SOMEBODY ELSE'S KID, YOU'D LIKE TO ROCK THEM.
WE DON'T, WE DON'T WANNA DO THAT.
THEN THE NEXT TAB, WHICH IS THE GREEN ONE, IS THE 5 63, WHICH IS A 9 0 1 COMMUNICATION CENTER.
WHY DON'T YOU KIND OF BRING US UP TO DATE ON THAT? I KNOW A LITTLE WHEN WE'RE GOING TO BE, UH, JUST SO EVERYBODY WILL KNOW KIND OF WHERE WE ARE, BUT WE'RE DISPATCHING FOR OURSELVES NOW AND THE OTHER CITIES THAT WE ALREADY DISPATCHED.
WE'RE GETTING ALL THE RADIO SYSTEMS UP.
THEY'RE MOUNTAIN RADIOS AND TRUCKS.
UH, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT HADN'T GOT THEM YET, BUT WE'RE WORKING NOW GETTING THE, UH, CONSTABLES WORKING THEIR WAY OVER HERE TO GET 'EM ALL PUT IN.
I THINK MOST OF 'EM GOT THE PORTABLE BY NOW.
I THINK THEY'VE GOT THEIR PORTABLES.
I THINK KENNY WE'RE JUST WORKING ON TRYING TO GET THEIR CAR.
THEY ALL THEM GET THE KITCHEN AND GOT THEIRS TOO FAR AS THE PORTABLES I BELIEVE.
I SAID, WHEN ARE YOU GONNA GET YOURS? HE SAID, I DON'T KNOW.
WELL, KIMMY'S BEEN CALLING AND SCHEDULE BECAUSE THEY'RE GETTING ABOUT FOUR TO FIVE CARS A DAY IS WHAT THEY'RE GETTING.
THEY BROUGHT MINE YESTERDAY, OVER YESTERDAY.
SO THEY WE'RE TRYING TO GET HIM IN THERE AND EASY.
I THINK SEAN BROUGHT ONE TODAY.
UH, HIS MAYBE WENT OVER TODAY, SO HE MIGHT, WE'RE TRYING TO GET HIM IN AS FAST AS THEY CAN GET HIM PUT IN.
BUT I, I'M ALMOST POSITIVE THEY'VE ALL GOT PORTABLE BECAUSE IT'S, THE SYSTEM IS WORKING REALLY GOOD.
WE'RE WORKING SOME TWEAKS AND WE, WE'LL ALWAYS DO THAT FOR A WHILE UNTIL WE GET SETTLED.
BUT THE PORTABLE SYSTEM IS OUTSTANDING.
I DROVE AROUND, TIMMY'S DROVE AROUND.
WE'RE PROBABLY GETTING A GOOD 87 OR 97%, 98% COVERAGE RATE.
I MEAN, WHAT WERE WE GUARANTEED? 98, 9 8.
AND, AND THE PORT, I, I FOUND ONE LITTLE AREA THAT COULDN'T GET OUT AND I HAD TO MOVE ABOUT 20 FEET AND I GOT OUT.
SO IT'S NOT THAT BIG OF A DEAL, BUT I MEAN I CAN GO IN THE CREDIBLE STORE THE FIRST TIME IN HISTORY AND SIT IN THERE ON AFFORDABLE AND TALK.
UH, IF YOU TALK TO THE SECURITY, UH, HERE, UH, THEY'RE TICKLED TO DEATH BECAUSE THEY'RE ALL SCATTERED OUT.
SOME OF 'EM DON'T LIVE IN THE COUNTY AND THEY GOT THEIR PORTABLE AND THEY WIND UP TALKING ON THE SECURITY CHANNEL.
EVERYBODY'S SITTING AT THEIR LIVING ROOM IN THEIR HOUSE.
SO THE GUYS IN THE COURTHOUSE NOW ARE NOW ON THE SEVEN, THEY'RE NOW ON THE YES.
AND THEN WE'VE GOT, I KNOW THEY HAD ISSUES THERE WHERE THEY COULDN'T GET OUT THE COURTHOUSE, RIGHT? I MEAN IT'S, IT'S WORKING GREAT.
THE TRUNKING SYSTEM GIVES THEM THEIR OWN CHANNEL JUST LIKE THEY DO WITH PATROL GUYS.
SO THEY'VE GOT A DIFFERENT FOR WHERE THEY CAN TALK TO.
SO IT'S REALLY GOOD, PARTICULARLY WE WALKED UP WHILE AGO WAS JUST TALKING ABOUT HOW GREAT IT WAS AND ALL THAT.
AND I SAID THERE'S ABOUT 3.2 MILLION REASONS WHY YA YOU ALL LIKED IT? YEAH, WE'RE ALL THE WAY ON THE CITY OF KAUFMAN.
UH, THEY'RE DOWN TO THE LIT LOG.
I THINK AS FAR AS, UH, WELL I THINK, I THINK THE VA SENT OUT THE LETTER, UH, TO EVERYBODY.
WE'VE GOT THE, UH, UH, PRICING AND ALL THAT PUT IN THERE.
AND AS FAR AS I KNOW, EVERYBODY ELSE IS STILL ON BOARD WORKING WITH HER.
AND I THINK THEY'RE COMING ON BOARD WITHOUT A PROBLEM.
I THINK THEY'RE NOT TODAY, TOMORROW, OR WHENEVER, BUT THEY'RE GONNA WORK THEIR WAY INTO IT.
THEY'RE UPGRADING SECOND PHASE.
THEY'RE GOING TO PHASE WHEN THEY'RE WHAT DOES THAT MEAN COMPARED TO WHERE WE'RE AT? OR WE'RE ALREADY AT PHASE TWO? WE, WE BEHIND.
THEY THEY BOUGHT A PHASE ONE SYSTEM, BUT THEY'RE HAVING TO UPGRADE TO A PHASE TWO.
A PRETTY, PRETTY GOOD CHUNK OF CHANGE.
IT'S, I KNOW WHEN WE PRICED IT, WHEN WE FIRST GOT IN THERE, IT WAS LIKE 400,000 TO BRING IT UP.
SO ARE WE DISPATCHING FOR KAUFMAN? NOT YET.
WE'RE LOOKING AT PROBABLY, I'M HOPING AT THE END OF THE MONTH.
IS I HAVE IS UH, WHAT UH, AND THE REASON IS THE, THE INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT AND GETTING WHAT THEY SENT IT TO 'EM AND NOW THEIR LAWYERS' GOTTA LOOK AT IT AND THINK ONCE THAT'S WORKED OUT, WE'RE GOOD.
BUT AS FAR AS US HAVING THE ABILITY TO DO THAT, WE'RE
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WE'RE THERE.WE'LL BRING THEIR ONE EMPLOYEE OVER AND THEN WE'LL WORK ON THAT.
THEY DO ONE OF THOSE S LIKE TALK TO YOU OR SOMEBODY THAT THEY GONNA BRING THEIR CAR OVER AND THEY GONNA PUT OUR RADIO AND THEY, THEY GOT BY, IF Y'ALL REMEMBER WHEN WE DID THAT CONTRACT, WE ALL, THE COUNTY, THE CONSTABLE, THE FIRE MARSHALS AND THE FIRE DEPARTMENTS FOR THEIR APPARATUS.
AND WE DIDN'T, AND THE FIRE, ENVIRONMENTAL, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT WE GAVE, WE, WE TOLD THEM THEY HAD TO BUY SOME OF 'EM.
NO, WE BOUGHT ALL THEIR MOBILES.
THEY HAVE TO BUY ALL THEIR PORTS AND S THE SD ARE WORKING WITH HIM NOW.
I THINK, UH, ES D ONE IS ALREADY WORKING WITH THE FIRE DEPARTMENTS WITHIN THEIR ON GOING SECURING A LOAN TO BUY THAT FARM.
SO I KNOW THE ESDS ARE WORKING WITH EVERYBODY, BUT THE FIRE DEPARTMENT'S, FIRE DEPARTMENTS ARE ALL ON BOARD.
HAVE TWO OR THREE GOOD FISH FRIES.
THEY MIGHT HAVE TO HAVE MORE THAN TWO THREE HIGH.
WHAT DOES LL HAVE? DO THEY HAVE MOTOROLA OR DO THEY HAVE TERRELL HAS MOTOROLA AND POY HAS MOTOROLA.
AND WHAT'S POY? THERE'S A PHASE ONE OR TWO.
THERE'S, THEY DID PHASE TWO WHEN THEY BUILT THEY HAVE PHASE THOSE YEAH, THEY FACED.
BUT THE CITIES, THEY'RE, THEY'RE HAVING NOW WE'RE NOT BUYING, WE DIDN'T BUY THE CITY UNITS.
NO, WE JUST GO OFF THE VOLUNTEER FIRE VOLUNTEER DEPARTMENT.
SO AND SO HAS ANYBODY MOVED OVER TO PHASE TWO YET? AS FAR AS DISPATCHING OR, OR LIKE THERE FARNEY DISPATCHING ON PHASE? YEAH, THEY'VE BEEN PHASE TWO.
THEY, THEY BUILT A PHASE TWO SYSTEM JUST LIKE WE'VE DONE.
SO THEY'RE, THEY'RE THE SAME THING.
AND WITH ROCK WALL COME OVER, UH, LAST WE, UH, YOU REALIZE THEY'RE GOING INHERIT AND THEY'RE DISPATCHING THE WHOLE COUNTY DEAL.
SO THEY'VE COME OVER, LOOKED AT ALL OF 'EM, APPARENTLY REALLY IMPRESSED WITH WHAT WE'VE GOT.
SO THAT'S ANOTHER AVENUE THAT WE'LL GET TO USE ALSO IS, UH, WE'VE ALREADY, STEVE HUEY IS WORKING WITH THEIR EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT WHEN THEY GET THEIR SYSTEM UP AND USING SOME OF THEIR SITES TO HELP US EVEN FURTHER NORTH.
SO ALL THAT'S GONNA DO IS HELP US EVEN MORE.
AND WE HAVE PETER AT, AT, UH, COMBINE.
AND ELMO AND THEN THE FOUR 40 SIDE OUT HERE.
UH, THERE'S BEEN SOME DISCUSSION AND I I I THINK THE COURT'S HEARD ABOUT IT OR MAYBE JUST OFF AND ON HAD ANYTHING OFFICIAL DONE.
BUT SUPPOSEDLY EAST TEXAS MEDICAL CENTER IS WANTING TO SELL THE TOWER.
AND SO THE ADVANTAGE OF US, IF, IF, IF WE COULD GET THE THING BOUGHT AT A REASONABLE PRICE, IT GIVES US A, A GOOD TOWER.
HOW DOES THAT, I MEAN I, I KNOW THAT BENEFITS US, BUT HOW, HOW WOULD THAT BENEFIT US IF WE BOUGHT THAT? I MEAN IT'S BECAUSE EVERYTHING'S ON THERE TIRE RIGHT NOW IN WHICH WE'VE GOT A NINE, NINE YEAR LEASE.
BUT STILL, UH, 'CAUSE IT'S ON OUR PROPERTY.
UH, THE BENEFIT IS IT IS OUR TIRE.
AND THIS IS WHAT I SAID, WE NEED TO NEGOTIATE WITH THEM.
WELL 'CAUSE THEY NEED THE TIRE ALSO.
BUT THEY DON'T WANT TO KEEP UP WITH THE MAINTEN AND STUFF.
IS THEY? WE'LL BE CHARGING IT TO, TO BE EAST TEXAS LESS THAN A MAINTENANCE OR MORE THAN A MAINTENANCE.
WELL I WOULD THINK WE, WHATEVER IT'S GONNA TAKE TO OFFSET IT TO MAKE IT RIGHT.
UH, WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THAT COST IS WHEN WE DO THAT SAME THING WITH THE PRICE, I MEAN THERE'S A DEAL THERE.
WE NOT LOOK AT 'EM AT THE PRICE OF THE THING AND SAY, OKAY, WE WORK THIS END OF THE PRICE OF IT AND WE GET IT FOR A LITTLE BIT OF NOTHING AND WE LET 'EM DO IT LIKE WE LIKE, UH, AND DO THE TAXES.
SAY, HEY, WE'LL OFFSET 25 WHATEVER, AND THEN 10 YEARS, THEN AFTER THAT YOU'LL PAY THIS FULL PRICE.
WHAT, WHAT TYPE OF MAINTENANCE IS INVOLVED IN THE TITLE? I MEAN YOU GOTTA HAVE 'EM INSPECTED EVERY SO OFTEN.
UH, MAKE SURE IT'S NOT GONNA LIGHT.
WE DON'T, DON'T IF YOU'LL KNOW.
SO YOU PROBABLY SEE BILL PRETTY QUICK ANTENNA.
THEY GOT STRUCK BY LIGHTNING AND GOING UP THERE TO FIND OUT IF WHAT WAS MESSED UP AND GOING BACK UP THERE AND REPLACING IT.
YOU NOT GONNA LIE, BUT IT'S $7,000 SPENT REALLY? WELL THAT NOW NO 7,000.
WHAT ABOUT, AND SINCE WE'RE KIND OF TALKING ABOUT EVERYTHING THEY USE THAT THEY, THEY'RE THEY'RE PAYING EACH TEXAS FOR PERCENTAGE OF THEIRS.
SO I WOULD THINK WE WOULD MAKE PAY PERCENTAGE OF WHAT WE'RE DOING.
THERE'S ANOTHER SITE ON THERE THAT'S DOING I THINK SOME PAGING WITH THESE TAXES AND THEY'RE PAYING AND STUFF.
IS THAT OUR COMPETITION FOR BUYING IT WOULD BE AIRPLANE.
NO, THEY DON'T WANT, THEY DON'T WANT, THEY DON'T WANT TEXAS.
WHO WOULD BUY THE FROM? HUH? WHO WOULD BUY THE POWER FROM YOU GET CELL PHONE COMPANIES.
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GET LIKE, YOU KNOW, HUFFMAN'S TIRES NOT ON OUR PROPERTY.THEY COULDN'T HUH? NOT ON OUR PROPERTY.
WELL THEN THEY COULD FALL ON, I DON'T KNOW THE LEGAL GUY THAT WE'D HAVE TO TALK TO THE DA'S OFFICE AND SEE IF THEY COULD GET INTO THAT.
SOMEBODY I THINK THEY BUY, BUT WHY WOULD YOU WANNA HAVE WHAT I'M SAYING? I THINK THEY FACED SOME ISSUES.
OH, I, THAT'S WHAT I SAY THAT THAT'D BE A DA CIVIL DEAL.
I JUST, BUT I KNOW PEOPLE, I KNOW THERE'S A COMPANY OUT THERE BUYING BECAUSE THAT'S HOW HUFFMAN'S GOT ALL THESE BIG ONES AROUND HERE AND GETS PEOPLE ON AND CHARGES YOU.
WELL I GUESS MY QUESTION WAS, IT WOULD'VE BE AN ADVANTAGE TO US IF WE OWN THE TOWER BECAUSE IT'S ON OUR LAND AND IT'S UH, IT'S OUR EQUIPMENT.
AND DEPENDING ON WHATEVER THE PRICE IS, WE COULD ALWAYS RENT IT OUT IF SOME WE COLLECT PUT UP.
AND THAT'S WHAT I SAY THE BIG THING ABOUT THAT WE, YEAH, WE, WE CAN CHARGE, BUT WE GOTTA BE VERY CAREFUL THAT WE DON'T HAVE STUFF PUT ON THERE INTERFERING WITH OUR RIGHT.
WHAT'S THE ONE OUT OF T VALLEY? IT'S ABOUT THE SAME.
BECAUSE THE OLD ONE THAT SAT THERE AT THE OLD JAIL, THAT WAS 2.0.
WHAT'S THE THAT'S WHY WE MOVE.
WHAT'S THE LAST PANEL ON THIS TOWER THAT WE HAVE? PRETTY, I MEAN LONG TIME.
THE BIGGEST THING IS YOU GOTTA HAVE 'EM COME OUT AND TIGHTEN UP YOUR TABLES AND I MEAN, BECAUSE IT MOVES AND THEY CHECK ALL THAT.
SO THAT'S SOMETHING WE JUST, I WANTED TO DIG INTO AND HONESTLY I HAD TRYING TO GET BUDGET EVERYTHING.
THEY HAD A LIFESPAN ON THEM AND THEY HAD TO PHYSICALLY TAKE THEM DOWN THERE FOR SO MANY YEARS.
BUT A NEW ONE UP TO I'M, I KNOW THAT OUT THERE.
SHERIFF'S OFFICE HAS BEEN THERE WAY BEFORE I WAS BORN.
WELL THERE'S ONE OVER HERE AT THE OLD, OLD JAIL.
THAT'S THE ONE TALKING ABOUT THE FIFTIES.
I MEAN, IT'S BEEN THERE FOREVER AND LONG.
I DON'T KNOW WANT TO CLIMB IT OR, WELL I, I GUESS I GUESS IN MY YOUNGER DAYS I TO CLIMB THAT WHEN YOU PUT AND CHANGED THE YEAH, THAT'S IN MY YOUNGER DAYS.
WE SAVED MONEY, PUTTING LOT OF TIME.
WE CHASED A FEW RABBITS ON, ON THE, THE REGIONAL CALL CENTER, BUT ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE 9 1 1 CENTER? I KNOW, UH, S***T, YOU AND JAKE HAVE BEEN WORKING HARD.
YEAH, WE'RE GONNA GET BACK TO IT.
WE'RE LAYING SOME ASPH ON DOWN DRY.
THE LADY, THE DEAD COMFORTABLE WORKING OUT THERE.
I SAY THE LADIES, I GUESS THEY'RE ALL, WELL THEY'RE, THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, ONCE WE GET A WARE SECURE IN THERE WHERE THEY CAN PARK IN THERE BEHIND, THEY'LL, THEY'LL FILL A LOT MORE.
THEY'RE TRYING TO WATCH OUT FOR EACH, EVERYBODY WE'RE TRYING TO WORK WITH THE PD.
WE'RE TRYING GEAR AND SHIFT FANS TO HELP OUT.
WE'RE TRYING TO GET OUR PEOPLE TO COME OUT THERE AND SHIFT.
YOU KNOW, I DON'T THINK ANYTHING HAPPENED, BUT WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE AIR COST GENERATORS OUT THERE THAT NEED TO BE FOR SURE.
I MEAN, BUT I MEAN CAMERA ALL THEM TOO, SO THEY SHOULD JUST HOOK UP AND TAKE OFF EXPENSIVE CAMERA LOOKING AT IT.
SO COFFMAN PD SHOULD BE ON FAIRLY SOON THEN I AND THEN DOWN THE END OF THIS BUDGET YEAR OR THIS CALVIN? I WOULD HOPE SO.
I MEAN, WE'RE WORKING THROUGH THAT.
THEY'RE WANTING TO GET A, UH, FEASIBILITY STUDY BETWEEN THE TWO SYSTEMS. WE'RE WORKING WITH THAT NOW.
UH, GETTING THAT PRICING AND LET THEM TALK, UH, GET A INDEPENDENT STUDY AWAY FROM MOTOROLA AND AWAY FROM WHAT THE TWO SYSTEMS ARE, DO TOGETHER AND MAKE SURE NOBODY'S LOSING NO FUNCTIONALITY.
SO THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE CONCERN.
THEY'RE GONNA LOSE SOME FUNCTIONALITY SO WE CAN GET THAT ADDRESSED.
SO, UH, HARRIS, I MEAN HARRIS IS IN ROCKWALL COUNTY NOW.
THEY THEY'VE APPROVED THE CONTRACT BUT THEM, THEY'RE ROCK COUNTY.
YEAH, THEY'RE, SO WHATEVER SYSTEM THEY, I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY SITES OR WHAT THEY'RE, THEY'RE PUTTING IN, I DON'T KNOW THE WHOLE DEAL, BUT I ROCK NEED PROBABLY ONE IN THE MIDDLE.
I PROBABLY A COUPLE SITES AND ONE'S CLOSEST OUR WAY.
WE HAD ISSUES WITH UH, WE HAD PROBLEMS WITH AND WE'RE CO WE'RE NOT A PROBLEM.
WELL THERE'S PROBABLY, IF YOU DROP REALLY FAR DOWN ON THE END DOWN THERE, THERE'S A PLACE WHERE WE WON'T, WON'T GET ANY COVERAGE, BUT THEY BUILD OUR SIZE THAT ALL THAT'S GONNA DO IS HELP US OVER THERE.
ESPECIALLY WITH ALL THE BUILDING.
SO IT SHOULD BE GOOD, BUT IT'S A LOT BETTER THAN, BECAUSE A LOT OF TIMES THEY DRIVE, THEY CAN'T GET OUT.
SO WOULD IT BE, UH, ANY COST TO US IF, IF WE BOUNCED OFF THE TOWER OFF OF THEIR SYSTEM? NO, BECAUSE WE'LL, WE'LL OFFER THE SAME THING FOR THEM.
I MEAN WE'VE HEARD ABOUT THE FINISH, WE'RE NOT HARDLY USING IT.
SO IT JUST HELP EACH OTHER OUT IS WHAT IT'D BE.
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A WHARF, WHICH IS A GOOD THING.HELP THEIR COVERAGE AND OUR CO I KNOW I'VE HAD THE KIND OF A INDIRECT, UH, CONTACT FROM VAN JACK COUNTY, UH, ABOUT THEIR RADIO SYSTEM EVIDENTLY IS AT THE END OF LIFE AS WELL.
AND UH, I KNOW WE'RE IN TWO DIFFERENT 9 1 1 DISTRICTS AND I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT WOULD WORK, BUT, UH, I KNOW THEY WERE INTERESTED IN, UH, TALKING ABOUT GOING WITH US, WHETHER WE'D HAVE A ROOM OR NOT, I DON'T KNOW.
BUT, UH, I DO KNOW THERE WAS SOME EARLY DISCUSSION A FEW WEEKS AGO ABOUT THAT.
SO YEAH, I I HAVEN'T TALKED TO THE JUDGE.
WE NEED TO GET IT UP FOR OUR OWN PEOPLE FIRST.
ONCE WE GET TO THAT, THEN WE PROBABLY CROSS THAT.
BECAUSE THE BIG THING, I DON'T, I KNOW WORKING WITH OUR CO WHERE WE'RE AT, I'VE NEVER WORKED WITH THIS OTHER COLLEAGUE.
I DON'T KNOW HOW THE TWO YEAH.
SO THAT SOUNDS LIKE THAT SOUNDS BIT BIG FACT THERE.
WELL IT WOULD BE A WHOLE NOTHER COUNTY.
I MEAN THAT'S, THAT'S A BIG YEAH.
AND UH, YOU'RE NOT ASKING FOR ANY ADDITIONAL PERSONNEL AS FAR AS SHERIFF'S DEPUTIES OR THE ONLY JAIL, THE ONLY PERSONNEL.
NO, THE ONLY THING WE'RE, WE'RE LOOKING AT IS THE, YOU KNOW, THE COMMUNICATION, WHICH WE DIDN'T PUT THAT IN THERE AS UH, FAR AS THE EMPLOYEES FOR THEM.
IT ADDED IN PEOPLE ON, RIGHT NOW WE KNOW WE'RE ONLY GETTING ONE EMPLOYEE FROM KAUFMAN.
AND WE DON'T KNOW FOR SURE YOU HAVE
WE KIND OF PROJECTED IF WE TOOK 'EM BOTH ON TODAY THEY HAVE A TOTAL OF, UH, 13 PEOPLE.
SO I DON'T THINK THEY'RE GONNA SEND 10 OVER.
UH, BUT LIKE COFFMAN, WE HAVE COFFMAN.
YOU ALREADY KNOW HOW MANY CALLS.
YOU PRETTY WELL HANDLE THAT THE WAY IT IS.
WELL WE PROBABLY HAVE TO TAKE A COUPLE.
BUT I MEAN YEAH, IT'S A REAL YEAH.
ONCE YOU START LOOKING AT, UH, THEIR NUMBERS.
UH, THE BIGGEST THING THEY'VE GOT IS TRAFFIC.
AND THAT, THAT TAKES UP CALLS FOR SERVICE.
WE, THAT'S CONSIDERED A CALL FOR SERVICE EVERY TIME SOMEBODY CHECKS OUT AND TRAFFIC GOES BECAUSE THAT TIES THE DISPATCHER.
BUT WHAT WE'RE LOOKING DOWN THE ROAD IS HAVING FOUR DISPATCHERS ON THE RADIO.
WHAT YOU'LL HAVE IS WE'LL PUT THE COUNTY IN HALF.
YOU'LL HAVE A NORTH AND SOUTH BECAUSE EVERYTHING USUALLY RUNS EAST AND WEST.
IF I'M IN INTERNAL, USUALLY EVERYBODY RUNS EAST, WEST, DOWN SOUTH.
WE DON'T HAVE ANY ROADS THAT GETS YOU, YOU'RE NOT GOING ANYWHERE VERY FAST.
SO WHAT WE'LL DO IS CUT THE COUNTY ON THAT AND PUT EVERYBODY WHO'S INVOLVED IN THAT WITH OUR DEPUTIES UP NORTH, EVERYTHING DOWN SOUTH.
AND WHAT'S REALLY EASY IF WE GET SOMETHING THAT GOES OUT THAT NEEDS TO GO TO EVERYBODY, YOU PUSH ONE BUTTON IN, PUT IT OVER EVERYBODY.
YOU HAVE A NORTH AND THE SOUTH, WE'LL HAVE OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT CHANNEL AND THEN WE'LL HAVE WHAT'S CALLED A TLE CHANNEL AND ALL THEY DO IS RUN STUFF TO OPEN UP THE, THE RADIO TO KEEP PEOPLE FROM JUST SITTING AND RUNNING TRAFFIC.
THEY DIDN'T HAVE TO GO TO THIS CHANNEL AS LONG AS IT WAS SAFE FOR THAT INDIVIDUAL.
IF THEY GOT ON THERE AND NEEDED TO RUN SOMEBODY YOU KNEW THEY DIDN'T FEEL COMFORTABLE, YOU NEED TO SEND THE OFFICER OVER TO THE BATHROOM UP.
BUT NORMALLY IF YOU FEEL COMFORTABLE OF A SOMEWHAT ROUTINE TRAFFIC STOP, YOU'D GO OVER THIS TLAC CHANNEL AND THAT'S WHERE THEY'D RUN EVERYBODY YOUR CRIMINAL HISTORY.
AND IF YOU NEEDED A RECORD, THAT'S WHERE YOU'D GET IT.
WHERE OPEN UP AND KEEP THEM TWO CHANNELS OPEN AND WE CAN KEEP INFORMATION QUALITY.
BRIEFLY, IF YOU CAN TELL US ABOUT SOME OF THE, UH, ENHANCEMENTS THIS SYSTEM HAS AS FAR AS I GUESS BELLS AND WHISTLES, WHAT IT'LL DO THAT WE CURRENTLY CAN'T DO WELL NOW, UH, WHICH IS ON ALL THE RADIOS.
YOU CAN PUSH A EMERGENCY BUTTON IF WE NEVER HAD BEFORE.
YEAH, THEY, THEY CAN PUSH A BUTTON.
YOU CAN HEAR 'EM, YOU KNOW, THEY, THEY DON'T HAVE TO KEY THE MIC.
IT'LL OPEN IT UP FOR A FEW SECONDS.
THEY CAN TELL IT WHERE IT'S AT.
IT AUTOMATICALLY, IF THEY KEY IT ON DISPATCH IT TELLS YOU WHO THAT RADIO'S ASSIGNED TO AND EXACTLY.
IF SOMEBODY'S GOT YOUR RADIO AND KEY IN IT, UH, YOU KNOW WHO'S KENNY IT, IT'S GOING TO TELL YOU WHERE THEY ARE, HUH? NO, WE AIN'T GOT THE GPS TURNED ON THERE.
YOU GOING THAT WAS ANOTHER BIG EXPENSE IF Y'ALL REMEMBER.
BUT IT'S SOMETHING THAT COULD BE ADDED.
IT COULD BE ADDED DOWN THE ROAD.
I KNOW LIKE DALLAS, THEY DID IT ON, THEY COULDN'T AFFORD IT ON THE HANDHELD, BUT THEY DID IT ON ALL THEIR UNITS.
ALL THE, WELL SEE THE UNIT, WE'LL KNOW WHERE THE UNIT IS 'CAUSE WE'VE ALREADY GOT A WON'T KNOW WHERE THE HANDHELD RIGHT.
WE'VE GOT A BL ON ALL THESE VEHICLES TO TELL US WHERE THEY'RE LOCATED AT FAR AS OUR GAS GONNA BE CAR.
THEY, THEY, THEY'VE LEARNED FROM ROAD AND BRIDGE, YOU KNOW, DON'T GET FAR FROM VEHICLES.
AND SO THE EQUIPMENT THAT YOU, THE MOBILE EQUIPMENT YOU'RE TAKING OFF OF THE, UH, THE PATROL UNITS NOW
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THAT'S GOING TO BE TURNED OVER TO THE, UH, COMMISSIONERS FOR THEIR, THAT'S WE'RE GOING TO HAND IT OVER TO LISA AND THEN IF Y'ALL WANT THAT CHANNEL AND USE THAT, I DON'T KNOW WHY YOU WOULDN'T USE IT NOW.I AIN'T GONNA GUARANTEE YOU'RE NOT GONNA GET THE COVER OR GETTING, AND I SAY, YOU KNOW, DOWN THE ROAD WE LOOK AT STUFF AND IF WE GOT CHANNEL FREQUENCY OPEN NOT USING MUCH.
YOU CAN Y'ALL HAVE A, Y'ALL HAVE A DIRECT ON IT TOO, DON'T YOU? SO THAT RADIO, THEY RADIO RAIL.
IT'S LIKE IF TWO TRUCKS ARE, YOU KNOW, EACH OTHER, THEY CAN SIT THERE AND TALK DIRECT TO EACH OTHER.
HOW FAR WILL THAT REACH? MILE? WELL IT'S A PORTABLE ONLY HAS FIVE WATTS IN THE VEHICLE.
THEY'RE 50 WATTS AND USED TO, WE USED TO DO IT ALL THE TIME ON THE COUNTY WHEN WE HAD IT AND YOU COULD PROBABLY GET FIVE TO SIX MILES.
WE'RE WORKING ON ROAD, YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO BLOCK OH YEAH.
BUT THEN WE CAN GO TO THE CHANNEL AND THEN YOU CAN GO TO THE COMMISSIONER'S CHANNEL AND THAT'S ON THE BIG TIRE.
IT'S NOT AT THE FOUR 40, BUT I WANT TO SAY IT'S LIKE 300.
UH, LIKE I SAY A MOBILE WITH, THAT'D PROBABLY WORK PRETTY DECENT.
LOOK ABLE TALK EACH OTHER OH YEAH.
DOWN THE ROAD, ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF.
THE TALK AROUND CHANNELS IS INDIRECTLY GETS AND IT WORK PERSON.
AND THE BEST THING ABOUT THAT IS WE'VE GOT THE PROGRAM FOR AND WE CAN GET THEM READY, REPROGRAM TO A LITTLE BIT.
I MEAN IT AIN'T GONNA CALL PROGRAM.
DON'T HAVE NO, THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE SUPPOSED BE DOING.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR ON NO.
ON THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT SALARY AND STUFF, BUT, UH, I GUESS THIS IS, IS THERE SHERIFF'S OFFICE OR NO, THIS COMMUNICATION.
I MEAN HOW MANY OPENINGS DO YOU HAVE? THIS DOESN'T, NONE, NONE.
THEY'RE NOT GONNA PUT MORE ON UNTIL LEAVE A CONTRACT SUNDAY.
WELL YOU DOES THIS INCLUDE THE ONE YOU'RE POSSIBLY GONNA BE TAKING IN? NO, WE HAVE A TOTAL OF 27 AS BUDGET RIGHT NOW.
WE'RE NOT GONNA PUT THAT IN THERE.
THEY PAY, THEIR PAY IS GONNA PAY, BUT THEIR PAY WILL PICK THAT, THAT PRICE OFF.
AS THEY COME ON WITH WE'D ADD THAT.
I THINK THAT'D OUR IT'D BE A WIFE.
IT BE A, TOGETHER AS A REVENUE COMMISSIONER.
IT'D BE A WIFE BECAUSE THEY'D SEND US THE MONEY TO PAY FOR.
SO IT'D BE A REVENUE, BUT COME BACK IT AND SEE IF YOU LOOK AT IT NOW, I DON'T HAVE IT.
I SEND IT TO THE DA'S OFFICE AND I GET Y'ALL TO GET A COPY OF IT SOON.
IS THE BREAKDOWN OF IF EVERYBODY'S BROUGHT ON AND IT'S BETWEEN THE CITIES, IF IT'S, AND ALL THESE OTHERS PICK IT UP, THEY'RE GONNA OFFSET SOME OF THIS COST ALREADY, WHICH IS GONNA BE MORE WHAT THIS IS.
SO WE'RE, WE'RE IN THE YEAH, IT'S GOING, IS GOING HAVE A LOT.
I'LL TELL YOU THEY'RE WORKING THE INTERSTATE REAL WELL.
I DON'T KNOW, I DON'T HAVE, SOMEBODY SAID TA'S GOT FIVE.
I KNOW WHEN THEY GET US, WE HAVE TO ADD THE OFFICER NUMBER AND ALL THAT.
I BET YOU THEY GOT FIVE OFFICERS.
RIGHT NOW THE BIGGEST, AND I DON'T HAVE THAT IN FRONT ME, BUT OF COURSE IT STILL HADN'T BEEN SIGNED THE BIGGEST, UH, REVENUE GENERATOR FROM THIS FOR US.
AND UH, THE SMALLEST I THINK IS, UH, NO, THE SMALLEST.
ONCE WE FIGURED ALL THE PRICING THERE, THERE'S A DISCOUNT IF YOU OFFSET IT, UH, WITH WHAT WE'RE PAYING AND THEN THE PERCENTAGE THERE'S AN OFFSET, UH, TO EVERYBODY.
WELL, KEN WAS GONNA NOT HAVE TO PAY NOTHING.
AND I MET WITH THE JUDGE, SAID THERE'S NO WAY SOMEBODY GONNA PAY NOTHING.
SO THEY'RE, THEY'RE THE LOWEST ONE 5,000.
WHAT ABOUT COMBINE? COMBINE WAS, I MEAN IT WAS, I WON'T SAY 17, 14 TO 17.
I MEAN IT, IT'S A, IT'S NOT MUCH FOR THIS.
AND IF THEY AND THEY CAN'T HIRE DISPATCHERS.
THERE WE AND JUST FOR EVERYBODY TO KNOW, WE'RE GOING DISPATCH FOR EVERYBODY.
AND BUT IF SOMEBODY DECIDES THEY DON'T BE A PART OF THE CENTER OF WHAT YOU'LL DO, FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, YOU WOULD CERTAINLY TAKE CARE OF THE DISPATCHES, BUT WE'RE GOING, THEIR WARRANTS WOULD NOT BE, WE'RE NOT GONNA ENTER THEIR WARRANTS.
THE SPECIALTY STUFF THAT THEY GIVE WARRANTS AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
AND THE TICKETS, THEY EMERGENCY.
WE'RE, WE'RE GOING, WE'RE GONNA PROTECT THE, THE TICKETS THEY WRITE WOULD NOT BE ENTERED INTO SYSTEM.
SO YOU'VE GOT SOME COMMUNITY OUT HERE DOING A OR WHATEVER THEY'RE GETTING, THEY'RE
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COUNTING ON REVENUE FROM NATIONS AND IT COMES TO THAT THEN THEY'RE NOT GONNA GET IT TO US UNLESS THEY WANNA BE PART OF THE PROGRAM AND PAY THEIR PART.SAY NO, I, I THINK THE TOTAL AMOUNT IS AROUND SEVEN, 700, 800,000 IF I REMEMBER IT WOULD BE RECEIVED.
ONCE EVERYBODY GETS ON BOARD WITH IT.
THAT, SO WE'VE GOT THE NUMBERS, WE'VE WORKED WITH IT, WE'VE TALKED TO SOME OF THE OTHER ONES.
THEY, THEY WAS STICKING THE DEBT THE WAY WE FORMULATED IT AND GOT IT FIGURED OUT.
LIKE I SAID, WE TOOK THREE POSITIONS OUTTA THAT BECAUSE I THINK WE CAN DO THAT, YOU KNOW, TO, TO THIS DAY.
YOU KNOW, IF IT GETS BUSY AND STUFF, YEAH.
WE MIGHT HAVE TO HAVE IT, BUT WE'LL OFFSET THAT BETWEEN EVERYBODY.
THAT'S THE BEST THING ABOUT IT.
PLUS THE OTHER THING WE HAVE GOING ON NOW IS REMEMBER THE OTHER DAY WHEN WE PASSED THAT RESOLUTION ON NINE DISTRICT, WE'VE GOT ALL THE COMMUNITIES IN THE COUNTY TO EVERY SINGLE ONE SIGN OFF.
THAT'S WHERE WE MAY NEED Y'ALL'S HELP TO MEET FOR SOME OF THE SMALLER COMMUNITIES.
YOU KNOW, BECAUSE THEY'VE GOTTA SIGN OFF ON THAT EVEN THOUGH THEY DON'T HAVE THE POLICE FORCE THEY STILL HAVE TO SIGN.
WELL, I MEAN I THINK, UH, THAT'S A NO BRAINER IF YOU TALK TO EM AND TELL 'EM GETTING OUR MONEY BACK HERE.
WELL WE CAN LOOK AT IT AND SPEND IT HERE.
AND NOT OFFSET A STATE BUDGET'S ALREADY.
KEMP'S ALREADY DONE IT AND I THINK LL HAS IT ON THEIR AGENDA NEXT.
WHO'S THE SERGEANT CONTACT? WELL, I'VE ASKED, UH, RANDY AND STEVE WOULD KIND OF BE THE MAIN CONTACT I THINK.
BUT IT MAY BE SOME OF EXACT CORN AND JIMMY MAYBE HERE IN COFFMAN AND YOU KNOW, OR SOMETHING ON SOME THE SMALLER CITIES I DON'T REALLY SEE.
BUT I THINK THE HARDEST PART THERE IS GONNA BE EDUCATOR.
TODD IS SENDING OUT A KIND OF A ONE PAGER DEAL THAT HERE'S WHAT THIS DOES, YOU KNOW, AND SEND THE MONEY ONE TO AUSTIN AND THEN MIGHT GET IT BACK TO US AND SENDS IT BACK TO WHERE IT CAN BE USED IF WE GET A COPY.
AND UH, AND THEY'RE GETTING, FROM WHAT I'VE HEARD THEY HAVE MEETING OUT AT COG, THEY'RE GETTING, UH, I MEAN PEOPLE REALLY, REALLY SIGNING UP.
THEY'RE EXCITED ABOUT GETTING THIS THING BACK AREA.
PHIL, I PROBABLY NEED TO GIVE YOU AND GO OVER THIS.
I DUNNO IF YOU'VE HEARD ABOUT ANY OF IT OR NOT, BUT IT'S, UH, YEAH, I WAS HERE FOR PASSED.
SO I KNOW KAUFMAN PLANNED ON DOING IT.
I, I THOUGHT AND STEVE WOULD BE, I WOULD THINK THEY'D FALL BACK THEIR COMMISSIONERS IF ANYBODY HAS ANY QUESTIONS YEAH.
WE'VE ALREADY DONE THE SAME THING.
GONNA GET HIS, UH, UH, HE'S GONNA BE THE JUDGE I'M ON.
THEY'RE THEY'RE, THEY'RE, THEY'VE ALREADY SWORN IN THERE.
TWO POLICE OFFICERS AND THEY, THEY'RE STARTING THEIR OWN PD OUT THERE.
I GUESS WE'LL NEED TO PUT THEM ON OUR LIST.
EVERYBODY GET WORK AT 4,500 PIECE.
HEY, THEY MIGHT GOOD PERSON FOR THESE CARS.
WE CAN SELL THEM WITH ALL THE LIGHTS.
Y'ALL READY TO TAKE A BREAK? YEAH.
Y'ALL NEED MORE QUESTIONS FOR THESE TWO GUYS? WELL, THANK Y'ALL VERY MUCH.
LIKE I SAID, UH, I'M VERY TRANSPARENT.
YOU GOT ANY QUESTIONS OUT? WHAT YOU BROUGHT IN FOR? YOU SAY IT'S BEEN AWFUL QUIET BODYGUARD.
I GOT A QUESTION ABOUT PERSON.
HOW MANY TICKETS HAVE THEY GIVEN THESE BIG, HUGE CAR TRUCKS IN THE LAST YEAR? I, I DON'T KNOW, BUT I ASKED YOU IN BEFORE.
DO YOU REMEMBER SEND ME, I HAVEN'T GOT AN EMAIL FROM YOU YET.
I SHOULDN'T HAVE SENT YOU EMAIL.
I'VE TALKED TO YOU AND, AND THAT'S WHAT I TOLD YOU.
I SAID, YOU SEE ME SOMETHING, I'LL BE MORE GLAD TO ADDRESS IT.
I HAVE TO PUT IT IN WRITING FOR YOU TO UPHOLD THE LOG.
NO, BUT I'M ASKING YOU WHERE THESE AT? 'CAUSE I DON'T KNOW WHERE THEY'RE AT.
I DON'T, I'VE TALKED TO YOUR GUYS AND I'VE GIVEN 'EM SCHEDULES.
THE LAST TIME I LOOKED THEY WEREN'T FOR US TRUCKS.
THEY HAVE WRITTEN CITATIONS TO TRUCKS FAR AS I KNOW.
WE MADE THEM STEVE ON THE BRIDGE OFF.
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I MEAN, YOU KNOW, HE'S REQUESTED AN EMAIL FOR HIM TO DO HIS JOB.I MEAN, I'VE ASKED YOU TO DO THAT.
I DON'T GO OUT HERE AND LOOK FOR TRASH TRUCKS.
I'VE, I'VE TALKED TO YOUR GUYS BEFORE SEVERAL TIMES.
THEY, THEY DON'T WORK FOR YOU.
AND I'M NOT SAYING IT'S RUDELY, BUT THEY WORK FOR US AND WE CAN GET STUFF DONE.
CAN YOU DIRECT IF YOU CAN GET IT? WELL, IF YOU'LL GIMME WHATEVER WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, I'LL BE MORE GLAD TO DO THAT ALL OVER THE COUNTY.
EVERY PRECINCT, EVERY ROGUE AND EVERY PRECINCT.
WHAT TRASH COMPANY? I'M TALKING ABOUT EVERY ONE.
THERE'S THREE COMPANIES THAT, SEE, I DON'T EVEN KNOW THE THREE COMPANIES.
YOUR COMMERCIAL VEHICLE GUYS SHOULD KEEP UP WITH THAT.
WELL, BECAUSE THEY'RE, THEY'RE, THEY'RE ALL AROUND.
THEY'RE OVER THERE HOVERING AROUND THE ROCK PIT, BEATING UP THESE FOUR GUYS TRYING TO MAKE A TRUCK.
AND THESE, THESE GARBAGE TRUCKS ARE DOING MILLIONS OF DOLLARS WORTH OF DAMAGE.
COUNTY ROADS ALL OVER THE PRECINCT.
AND WE'VE GIVEN THEM ONE LAST GUYS FIX THE COUNTY ROADS.
NO, I WANT THEM PAY FOR BEING OVERWEIGHT.
THEY'RE DOING SEND ME THE HOW MANY TICKETS TRASH WE'LL SEND YOU.
I MEAN, THEY'RE OUT THERE DOING THEIR JOB.
THEY'RE NOT BECAUSE THEY'RE PICKING ON A ROCK TRUCK.
NO, I'M UPSET THAT THEY'RE THAT'S WHAT YOU SAID.
I'M UPSET THAT THEY'RE DOING MILLIONS OF DOLLARS WORTH OF DAMAGE OR COUNTY ROADS COUNTYWIDE AND NOT AROUND THE ROCK PITS COUNTYWIDE.
AND WE'VE GIVEN THEM ONE TICKET.
BROUGHT THIS UP TODAY IN THE LAST YEAR.
NO, I BROUGHT IT UP BEFORE AND I SENT AN EMAIL AND I HAVEN'T GOT IT YET.
WHAT DO YOU WANT ME TO EMAIL? YOU TELL ME.
WERE YOUR CONCERNS OF WHAT? ROADS AND ALL THAT? THAT'S WHAT I SAID.
EVERY ROAD THESE TRUCKS HAVE A SET SCHEDULE.
TELL YOU WHAT THIS SET SCHEDULE IS BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW IT.
YOUR DETECTIVES CAN'T, CAN'T FOLLOW A BIG BLUE TRASH TRUCK.
WELL, MY DETECTIVES AIN'T, AIN'T SITTING IN THEIR TRASH TRUCK.
I'M TALKING DETECTIVES IN YOUR COMMERCIAL.
WE GOT JUST, WE'LL CLEAN THE ROAD UP.
NO, I'M TALKING NO, WE, NO, WAIT A MINUTE.
SO WE TAKE, WE'RE DONE WITH THIS.
WE'LL, WE'LL, WE'LL EMAIL YOU STAT IF YOU GOT ANY CONCERNS, EMAIL ME AND WE'LL LET, WE'LL, WE'LL DEAL WITH THAT ISSUE.
WELL, LIKE I SAID, YOU SAID YOU'D EMAILED ME AND I HADN'T GOT THAT YET EITHER.
WHY SHOULD I HAVE TO EMAIL YOU THE PROBLEM? WE'VE DISCUSSED IT.