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          SO I WOULD SUGGEST THAT THAT COULD BE DROPPED, YOU KNOW, 11. 
          I'M SURE IT WOULD GO UP CONSIDERABLE WHEN HE'S IN IN OFFICE. 
          MORE THAN I HAVE IN THAT VANESSA, YOUR RESERVE THAT'S BEEN USED, THAT GAS. 
          MY PARTTIME GUY. 
          GAS IS DOWN. 
          OF COURSE. 
          AND YOU'VE HAD THE SAME BUDGET FOR UH, UH, 16 . 
          I DIDN'T CHANGE IT. 
          I MEAN, I'M JUST SAYING MAYBE WE COULD, RATHER THAN RAISING BUDGET, WE COULD TAKE THAT. 
          YEAH. 
          FROM THAT WHEN I TALKED ABOUT A RIGHT. 
          UH, JUST MOVE THAT DOWN TO MS LADIES. 
          YEAH. 
          AND MAYBE JUST, UH, WELL I THOUGHT YOU WANTED IT ON THE, UH, UNIFORM, UNIFORM, UNIFORM, UNIFORM, WHATEVER. 
          Y'ALL LIKE TO PUT WHATEVER YOU WANT. 
          IT'S STILL GONNA BE SPENT. 
          HOW TO MOVE. 
          WELL, I MEAN HE'S GOT 11 SEVEN. 
          I DON'T WANT LEAVE YOU YOU GAS. 
          DON'T YOU TAKE 3,500 OFF THAT STILL? DO WE HAVE A WAY OF LOOKING TO SEE WHAT WE SPENT WAS AT THAT ACTUAL, THAT'S IT. 
          YEAH. 
          LAST FOOD, NOT THIS BUDGET YEAR, BUT THROUGH LAST BUDGET YEAR, IT WAS $7,954. 
          THAT WAS 92 IN THE GAS I MONEY TO BUY IT AT 9,000 AND THAT'D GIVE HIM 2,700 TO MOVE DOWN THERE TO GET THE VEST AND STUFF. 
          HOW ABOUT THAT? I THINK THAT SOUNDS GOOD. 
          I DON'T THINK ANYBODY IN HERE GOING VEHICLE. 
          NO, I WANT, I'M GONNA GIVE YOU GAS BECAUSE YOU HAD TO TRAVEL TO COME GET OVER HERE FROM PRAIRIEVILLE TO NEY SERVING PAPERS. 
          SO THEY BURN A LOT, A LOT OF GAS. 
          DO THE REST TO TAKE CARE OF THE OTHER TOO MUCH. 
          THAT'S ALL. 
          SO IS THAT AGREEABLE? YEAH. 
          BE WORK FOR HIM RIGHT NOW, THEN MAKE THAT WORK. 
          IT NEEDS SOME, WE GET TO GET, YOU ALWAYS HAVE THE ABILITY DURING THE YEAR TO COME IN AND MOVE MONEY AROUND THAT. 
          IF YOU SEE YOU NEED TO MOVE MONEY FROM ONE LINE ITEM TO ANOTHER, YOU CAN GET WITH THE AUDITOR AND UH, AND THEN THE COURT WOULD TYPICALLY BE APPROVED. 
          SO YOU GONNA MOVE, MOVE 2000 FROM GAS AND OIL TO UNIFORMS TO OFFSET FOR THE VEST AND, AND SUPPLIES, I GUESS. 
          AND THEN ON OFFICE SUPPLIES, I THINK WE PUT, WE SAID WE'D JUST PUT 9,000 IN GAS AND OIL. 
          YEAH. 
          AND 4,220. 
          700. 
          700. 
          OR MOVE? MOVE 700. 
          600 TO THE, TO THE OFFICE SUPPLIES. 
          AND THE 2000 TO THE UNIFORM. 
          YOU SAID 600. 
          IT'S A HUNDRED DOLLARS SOMETHING, SEVEN. 
          WHICH, WHICH YOU WANT? IT DOESN'T MATTER. 
          WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A HUNDRED DOLLARS. 
          NOT ROUND OFF. 
          WE'LL MAKE SURE YOU'RE TAKEN CARE OF. 
          DON'T WORRY. 
          PUT THE REST OF IT. 
          THE COMPUTER. 
          IT'S EASIER WITH EVERYBODY. 
          I ALWAYS YES, IF DO THAT. 
          PROBABLY THAT'S WHAT I EXPLAINED TO YOU. 
          GET DOWN SOMEWHERE. 
          YOU'RE ALL ONE SORT OR ANOTHER. 
          YOU CAN ALWAYS TRANSFER. 
          I ASK YOU THIS, BRIAN, IS THERE SOME OF THE STUFF THAT'S HERE, UH, THAT COULD GO AHEAD AND BE PURCHASED OUT OF THE CURRENT, YOUR BUDGET? YES. 
          AND I EXPLAINED TO 'EM, I WAS TRY TO MAKE SURE, UH, ANY TIRES OR AMMUNITION COMING INTO OFFICE AND I TRY AND DO THAT EVERY YEAR ANYWAYS TO MAKE SURE IF SOMETHING YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN. 
          SURE. 
          TRAINING OR, YOU KNOW, WE GET INTO SOMETHING LIKE WE HAVE HERE WITH, YOU KNOW, HAPPEN AT THE COURTHOUSE WHERE EVERYBODY'S WORKING AROUND THE CLOCK THAT IT CHANGES UP YOUR BUDGET. 
          SO I TRY AND MAKE SURE GOING INTO THAT YEAR IF I'VE GOT MONEY LEFT OVER TO GO AHEAD AND PURCHASE EXTRA AMMO OR PURCHASE A SET OF TIRES SO I HAVE 'EM AT THE COUNTY BARN OR YOU KNOW, DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT. 
          SO WE'RE PREPARED IF WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING. 
          YOU KNOW, WE ALL WENT THROUGH THAT. 
          IT, UH, CERTAINLY SLOWED PROCESS DOWN AROUND HERE. 
          QUITE A FEW THINGS. 
          I HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS. 
          PROFICIENCY AND LONGEVITY PHASE OPEN CHANGE. 
          THAT'S UP TO, WELL, I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW. 
          HE'S ALREADY, YOU DON'T GET IT RIGHT NOW. 
          OH, IF HE'S ALREADY A CURRENT EMPLOYEE, YEAH, WE'D HAVE TO CARRY DOWN HIRED. 
          WHAT ABOUT EFFICIENCY? YEAH, HE'LL GET LONGEVITY. 
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HE'S ELIGIBLE. 
          OKAY. 
          SO LONG. 
          BUT HE WON'T BE THE SAME AMOUNT. 
          PROBABLY CHANGE. 
          AND HE'S GETTING HOME RIGHT NOW. 
          IS THAT NUMBER GOING CHANGE THOUGH? IT'S PROBABLY GONNA BE LOWER BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT I MEAN. 
          LOWER THAT NUMBER GONNA CHANGE. 
          WHAT ABOUT PROFICIENCY? PROFICIENCY DON'T, I SHOULD GET IT HERE, BUT I DON'T, WE DON'T GET THAT. 
          YEAH, I DUNNO. 
          I THINK WE'RE GONNA, I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE DISCUSSION ABOUT LONGEVITY PAY AND PROFICIENCY. 
          I, I JUST, I ASKED LORI TO PUT TOGETHER SOME FIGURES. 
          OKAY. 
          THAT'D BE SOMETHING WE TALK ABOUT THAT. 
          UH, WHAT IS YOUR FULL NAME? CHAD. 
          JOSEPH. 
          CHAD. 
          OKAY. 
          THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          13. 
          OKAY. 
          3%. 
          WELL IT'S GONNA BE MORE THIS SALARY AND THE CELL PHONE THING THREE. 
          YOU GET A CELL PHONE ALLOWANCE OR, SO WE USE THAT. 
          JUST TWO TRANSFER. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THERE? SO WHAT DID WE DECIDE? WE LEAVING IT THE SAME LINE TRANSFER TO PURCHASE IT? ARE WE GONNA MOVE 2000 TO UNIFORMS AND 600 TO OFFICER? I'M GONNA IT NOW. 
          I'M NOT. 
          HE NEEDS MORE MONEY DURING THE YEAR THEN WE WILL. 
          HE GOTTA NEED LEAVE THE SAME. 
          OKAY. 
          THAT THAT WAS, I'M JUST TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT WAS WHAT WE WERE DOING. 
          WE'RE NOT LEAVING IT THE SAME. 
          YOU MISUNDERSTOOD ME. 
          I'M PUTTING UH, OFFICE SUPPLIES UP TO 600 GAS AND OIL WILL BE 9,000 AND UNIFORMS WILL BE 36. 
          SIR. 
          THEN IT'LL BE THERE. 
          IF HE DOESN'T USE IT, THEN HE WILL. 
          YOU HAVE ENOUGH FOR STILL SAVING MONEY, RIGHT? TRAINING EDUCATION CONSTABLE. 
          YEAH. 
          MILEAGE MILL AND LODGING AND TRAINING EDUCATION. 
          YEAH. 
          USED ANY OF THAT. 
          IS THAT BECAUSE WE'LL HAVE TRAINING COMING UP TO CHECK ON UH, THE 20 HOURS FOR, UH, VANESSA. 
          HE'LL NEED TO GO BEFORE YOU TAKE OFFICE. 
          SO I'M ALREADY SIGNED UP. 
          HE'LL GO ONCE YOU HAVE, YOU HAVE TIME TO TAKE NEW, YOU HAVE TO BE BEFORE YOU CAN GO ON EFFICIENCY. 
          A YEAR, TWO YEARS. 
          IT'S A WELL PROFICIENCY. 
          HE DOESN'T HAVE IT AT THE SHERIFF TRANSFER, BUT NOT BUT OTHER BUT HE WILL CARRY OVER HIS LONGEVITY. 
          YEAH, BUT THAT'S NOT $1,500. 
          1500. 
          YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          WHAT I MEAN RIGHT NOW IS CURRENTLY 1300. 
          I HAVE AN ADVANCED CERTIFICATE. 
          WE JUST DON'T GET PAID FOR CERTIFICATE PAY OR SOMETHING AS OF A CERTAIN DATE. 
          IF YOU WERE, I THINK YOUR GRANDFATHER IN, IF YOU HAD BEEN GRANDFATHER, IS THAT THEY WERE NOT, THE WAY IT WORKED IS THAT THEY WERE NOT GETTING IT MARK, THEY WERE NOT GETTING, AT THE TIME Y'ALL STOPPED IT, THEY WEREN'T GETTING IN ANYMORE. 
          LONGEVITY AND NO, WE JUST, WE WENT THROUGH THAT WITH PRECINCT ONE POSSIBLE LAST YEAR BECAUSE HE QUALIFIED PROFICIENCY BUT HE HADN'T IT. 
          WE GAVE IT TO THEM. 
          THERE ARE SEVERAL EMPLOYEES THAT HAVE THEIR CERTIFICATES, BUT THEY HAVE DIFFERENT CERTIFICATES AFTER THE DAY THAT THEY STOPPED PAYING IT. 
          SO THERE ARE SEVERAL EMPLOYEES THAT RECEIVED THE BASIC CERTIFICATES. 
          YEAH. 
          HE GOT HIT BEFORE THEY STOPPED IT. 
          YEAH. 
          I MEAN IT JUST WASN'T GETTING ANY, THIS WASN'T GETTING HIM WAS THAT'S WHERE HE CAME IN BECAUSE HE WAS A CONS CONSULATE RIGHT. 
          KIND SHERIFF DEPARTMENT. 
          RIGHT. 
          WHAT I'M SAYING IS THERE ARE SEVERAL EMPLOYEES THAT ARE GETTING PROFICIENCY TO PAY FOR LIKE A BASIC LEVEL, BUT THEY MAY GET ADVANCED, BUT THEY'RE ONLY GETTING PAYING FOR BASIC BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT THEY WERE RECEIVING AT THE TIME THAT THE PROGRAM WAS. 
          YEAH. 
          AND THAT WAS STOPPING BACK. 
          I KNOW IT WAS STOPPED BEFORE ICE WHERE I, I WANNA SAY IT WAS EIGHT OR NINE Y LONGEVITY WAS STARTED THAT FIRST YEAR IN 2011. 
          THAT, THAT WHEN WE WERE OCTOBER 1ST, 2011. 
          YEAH. 
          SO HE'S VERIFIED IN ON LONGEVITY. 
          YEAH, HE'S FINE ON LONGEVITY, BUT WE'VE GOT SOME NUMBERS I THINK BE INTEREST FOR ME TO SEE SHOULD WE DECIDE TO PUT LONGEVITY BACK, LONGEVITY BACK. 
          AND IT'S, I WAS SURPRISED THAT IT COST HIM MORE MONEY THAN IT DID. 
          BUT, UH, UH, AND THEN I REALLY HAVEN'T DONE 
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ANY STUDY ON THE PROFICIENCY EITHER, BUT I'D BE HAPPY TO. 
          ANYWAY, THAT'S, THAT'S ANOTHER DISCUSSION TO BE HAD. 
          AND THE REASON WE'RE TRYING TO DO THIS TODAY IS JUST KIND OF GIVE US A, WE DON'T KNOW WHERE OUR TAX REVENUES ARE GONNA BE AND WON'T HAVE A FULL UNDERSTANDING OF THOSE FOR ABOUT ANOTHER MONTH. 
          AND SO, UH, WE'RE TRYING TO GET AS FAR ALONG ON BUDGET AS WE CAN. 
          SO, UH, ION, UH, THE ONLY THING I'D LIKE TO ASK FOR IS JUST, UH, AND I DON'T KNOW, HAVEN'T TALKED TO ANY THE OTHER CONSTABLE FAR WHAT THEY'RE DOING OR ASKING FOR, BUT, UH, I'VE GOT A DEPUTY CONSTABLE DOWN THERE THAT I THINKS NO MONEY. 
          SO IT SAID NOT TO ASK FOR RAISES ON YOUR SHEET, PUT ANYTHING ON THERE. 
          BUT I WOULD LIKE TO ASK AND THE JUDGE IF Y'ALL, WE FIND SOMEBODY FOR RAISES, CAN'T FIND WHATEVER SHE DESERVES, RAISE AND SERVES MONEY, MORE MONEY, SHE'S, WE'RE TAKING OVER THAT AGAIN, KIND OF CONTINGENT ON WHERE WE WIND UP WITH. 
          OKAY. 
          ANYBODY HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR CONSTABLE AND CONSTABLE , CONGRATULATIONS. 
          ALRIGHT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          THANKS. 
          SHE ALRIGHT. 
          UH, DAVID, YOU'RE RIGHT BEFORE LUNCH JUDGE, AFTER I EMAILED YOU MY DRAFT ERROR, CORRECT IT. 
          COPY. 
          OKAY, GOOD. 
          IT'S IN Y'ALL'S FORMAT AS WELL. 
          WAS IT UP OR DOWN? UM, A LITTLE BIT UP. 
          WELL I'VE READ YOU A LITTLE BIT DOWN. 
          WE'RE NOT GONNA TAKE IT. 
          NEED NONE OF THIS. 
          CORRECT. 
          THANKS KAREN. 
          IT'S OVERALL OVER AT UM, CSCD. 
          OUR SALARY, UM, HAS GONE DOWN QUITE A BIT BECAUSE I'VE HAD SEVERAL EXPERIENCE STAFF OVER THE LAST YEAR THAT HAVE LEFT. 
          AND ED JOHNSON, FOR EXAMPLE, WAS MAKING CLOSE TO $68,000. 
          THE SUPERVISOR THAT REPLACED HIM, I BROUGHT IN AT AROUND $54,000. 
          SO THERE WAS A SIGNIFICANT SAVINGS THERE AT A COUPLE OFFICERS THAT WERE MAKING OVER 50,000 THAT, UM, WORK DEPARTMENT. 
          AND THEY'VE BEEN REPLACING STAFF THAT I INITIALLY BROUGHT IN AT 35,000. 
          SO WE HAD QUITE A BIT SAVINGS THERE AS WELL. 
          AND THEN WITH SOME OF THE, UM, PEOPLE THAT LEFT, WE UM, LOST A LOT OF OUR LONGEVITY PAY. 
          SO THAT DID SOME ADDITIONAL ADDITIONAL REDUCTIONS. 
          UM, ONE THING I HAVE DONE WITH THIS BUDGET, AND I HAD TALKED TO KAREN AND I HAD TALKED TO KATE ABBY ABOUT THIS. 
          MY STARTING SALARY FOR A LINE OFFICER WAS LISTED AT $35,000 IS WHAT I HAD BEEN PAYING. 
          UM, I'VE LOST SOME OFFICERS TO ROCK WALL. 
          I MADE A, UM, JOB OFFER TO INDIVIDUAL TO INITIALLY ACCEPTED AND THEN TURNED US DOWN. 
          WE WENT TO TON COUNTY. 
          SO I'VE CONTACTED NEIGHBOR COUNTIES, CONTACTED COUNTIES SIMILAR IN SIZE TO MY DEPARTMENT AND WE WERE ONE OF THE SIX LOWEST PAIN. 
          UM, SO I GOT PAID IDEA THAT GOT WITH KAREN RANSOM NUMBERS AND I ACTUALLY INCREASING OUR BASELINE SALARY TO 38,000. 
          SO 35, WE'LL STILL BE BELOW BID, WE'LL STILL BE BELOW ROCK WALL, WE'LL STILL BE BELOW COLIN, BUT WE'LL BE ABOVE TAR. 
          WE'LL BE ABOVE UM, DALLAS ON HENDERSON. 
          UM, AND SO WE'LL BE A BIT MORE COMPETITIVE. 
          UM, LET ASK YOU THIS. 
          AND WHEN YOU DID THAT SURVEY, DID YOU TALK ABOUT INSURANCE COST? YES. 
          AND SO WERE ALL OF THEM PAYING THE TOTAL COST INSURANCE? WE DO, YES. 
          WELL, THEY'RE NOT ON OUR INSURANCE BECAUSE WE'RE NOT ON GOLF'S INSURANCE. 
          THEY'RE INSURANCE. 
          THAT'S OKAY. 
          GOOD POINT. 
          SO IT'S, UM, IT'S THE ADJUSTMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN MADE TO THE BUDGET, IT'S GONNA HAVE ZERO IMPACT ON THE COUNTY'S RE SO MOST OF YOUR MONEY COMES FROM THE STATE. 
          EXACTLY. 
          AND UH, AND THE FEE THAT YOU COLLECT? YES. 
          WE HAVE FOUR REVENUE STREAMS. THREE STREAMS ARE FROM THE BUDGET. 
          ONE OF 'EM IS BASIC SUPERVISION, WHICH WE GET APPROXIMATELY THREE $90 FROM THE STATE TO SPEND ON THE, WE GET ANOTHER AND 50 TO 60,000 WHAT'S CALLED CCP FUNDING, WHICH IS WHAT I USE FOR OUR SUBSTANCE ABUSE PROGRAMS AND ALSO USE FOR OUR SEX OFFENDER OFFICER. 
          AND THEN THIS FISCAL YEAR 
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THAT'S ENDING RIGHT NOW FOR THE VERY FIRST TIME I GOT, UM, DIRECT FUNDING, UH, WHICH IS DIVERSION PROGRAM FUNDING TO ACTUALLY PAY FOR MY OFFICE TO CREATE A MENTAL HEALTH CASE. 
          UM, SO THE REST OF OUR MONEY COMES FROM THE COLLECTIONS. 
          APPROXIMATELY 65% OF OUR BUDGET IS FROM COLLECTION OF PROBATION FEES. 
          SO AND LAST FISCAL YEAR, FISCAL YEAR 15, BECAUSE SOME CHANGES THAT DID WAS THE DEPARTMENT, WE ACTUALLY HAD TO REFUND THE STATE ABOUT $48,000 BECAUSE WE HADN'T SPEND ENOUGH. 
          UM, AND WITH SOME OF THE ADJUSTMENTS AND THE EXPANSION, I'VE DONE IT. 
          THAT SHOULDN'T BE HAPPENING. 
          OKAY. 
          QUESTIONS FOR HIM. 
          SO WHATEVER HE'S DONE IS NO INCREASE IN COUNTY BOTTOM LINE. 
          NO. 
          IN FACT, EVEN WOULD YOU HAVE FIBER OPTICS THAT WERE SOLD OUT AT THE SUB COURTHOUSE? I'M PAYING FOR MY PART OF THAT. 
          THE UH, YEAH. 
          WELL AND THE OTHER THING YOU DO IS, UH, WHEN WE HAVE PROJECTS THAT COMMUNITY SERVICE, THAT'S ALWAYS IMPORTANT. 
          I'VE GOT PAINTER COMING IN. 
          YEP. 
          I PAINT I'S TALKING ABOUT PAINT FROM THE OR NOT PART. 
          THEY ON TOP WE HAVE LOT, BUT I MEAN YOU ACTUALLY HAVE PROFESSIONAL PAINTERS. 
          PROB AND YOU EVEN GIVE 'EM A DEAL IF THEY BRING THEIR OWN EQUIPMENT. 
          YEAH, IF THEY BRING EQUIPMENT ON EITHER TWO FOR ONE OR THREE, THAT'S A GOOD, WE WE BEEN DOWNTOWN CORN AND SEEN DONUT SHOP THE WAY THEY DO. 
          THEY PAINT THAT WE CAN PAINT, FIND SOMEBODY LIKE I CAN CHECK WE, WE COULD PUT TANKS AN TANK. 
          YOU DON'T HAVE ANY ROOFER BY CHANCE. 
          I'M SURE I DO. 
          I BE, AND ONE THING I AM DOING IS, UM, ACTUALLY WE'RE GONNA START THE PROCESS NEXT MONTH. 
          I'VE REARRANGED ALL THE PROBATIONERS AND I'M REDISTRIBUTING 'EM AMONG MY OFFICERS WHERE THEY'RE NOW GONNA BE DIVIDED BY ZIP CODE. 
          I'M GONNA HAVE ONE OFFICER SUPERVISING, WELL ONE PRIMARY OFFICER SUPERVISING KAUFMAN, TWO OFFICERS SUPERVISING CAROL, AN OFFICER SUPERVISING 40 AND AN OFFICER SUPERVISING EVERYTHING SOUTH OF KAUFMAN. 
          UM, SO ONE THING I'M GONNA DO IS ONCE I GET THOSE OFFICERS IN THEIR SET POSITIONS, I'M GONNA BRING THAT INDIVIDUAL OFFICER OUT TO Y'ALL'S OFFICES, ORDER INTO OFFICE, INTRODUCE THEM TO Y'ALL AND THEY'LL BE YOUR CONTACT PERSON FOR COMMUNITY SERVICE. 
          THEY SUPERVISING THE PEOPLE GOOD. 
          WE APPRECIATE IT. 
          I MEAN, YOU KNOW, WE USED A LOT LAST SUMMER. 
          CAN DO IT AGAIN AND, AND UH, GRABBING IT YESTERDAY. 
          BUT HE COULD HAVE USED ANOTHER COUPLE OF PEOPLE SHOULD HAVE BEEN ALREADY. 
          HE WANTS TO HAVE HIS PARKING LOT PAID OVER THERE. 
          SO WE GOTTA FIGURE OUT HOW WE DO THAT. 
          BACK. 
          BACK PARKING. 
          NEED TO, AS SOON AS YOU GET TO THE ARMY, WE GOTTA, BY THE WAY, I HAVEN'T HEARD ANYTHING BACK FROM THE CHURCH ON THE OTHER. 
          AND THIS IS THE OTHER THING I WANNA SAY ABOUT HIM. 
          HE HAS REALLY KEPT ME UP TO DATE ON EVERYTHING GOING ON OVER AT THE SET COURTHOUSE. 
          OTHERWISE I DON'T HEAR ANYTHING THAT WAS THERE. 
          I KEEP IT QUIET AND UH, BUT UH, DEFINITELY COUNTY YOU WALKED AROUND, DON'T REMEMBER LAND BACK. 
          WELL IT'S PRETTY WELL A CITY BLOCK I THINK. 
          YEAH IT IS. 
          ONE HOUSE IS ON THAT ONE CORNER AND, UH, MORE TRAFFIC BY IT NOW BECAUSE OF THE NEW 34. 
          WE STILL NEED TO GET YOU A FLAG POLE. 
          YEAH. 
          UH, YOU KNOW, I HAD ONE PROBATIONARY DAY I WAS LINED UP TO SEND OVER TO MR. SHANE EXCEPT BE COMMITTED A NEW OFFENSE AND HE'S NOW I'M DOING COMMUNITY SERVICE FOR TDC AND DIDN'T EARN HIS LESSON TODAY AND HE JUST COULDN'T AVOID THE MATH. 
          YEAH. 
          WELL THAT'S SAD. 
          YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          ANY QUESTIONS FOR DAVE? WE APPRECIATE IT. 
          IT'S BEEN A PLEASURE WORKING HERE. 
          I'M TRYING NOT TO COST ANY MONEY. 
          YEAH, WELL THE HELP YOU GIVE US WITH GUYS THAT ARE ON PROBATION, MAN, THAT, THAT'S GOOD FOR EVERYBODY. 
          AND 
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I TALKED TO ONE OF THE MAINTENANCE GUYS, . 
          YEAH. 
          AND HE'S GONNA TALK TO BOBBY BRIDGES. 
          UM, BUT MENTIONED THAT WAY BACK IN THE PAST THEY USED TO HAVE SOME CSR GUYS THAT WOULD HELP BOBBY 'EM WITH MOVING FURNITURE. 
          YES. 
          GONNA HAVE SOME BUILDING STUFF LIKE THAT. 
          SEE IF I CAN GET THAT STARTED. 
          GOOD. 
          WELL WE'VE GOT A PROJECT THAT MAY BE COMING UP FOR SOON. 
          ALRIGHT, GO. 
          ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. 
          APPRECIATE IT. 
          ALRIGHTY. 
          ACCORDING TO MY AGENDA, THAT GETS US DOWN TO LUNCH FROM 1150 TO ONE 10. 
          AND I WOULD SUGGEST THAT WE COME BACK RATHER THAN ONE 10. 
          I'D SUGGEST WE COME BACK AT, UH, WE'LL NEED TO GET IN TOUCH MAYBE ANGIE OR UH, CAN WE COME BACK AT 1245? YEAH. 
          . 
          SO WHAT, WHAT DO YOU WANT TO DO? YEAH, SO BETTER. 
          12 45, 12 30. 
          WILL WE BE ABLE TO INCREASE OTHERS? SO, WELL THAT'S WHAT WE'LL NEED TO SEE IF ANGIE CAN GET IN TOUCH. 
          YOU WANNA START BACK AT 1230 THEN? I MEAN, I JUST ASSUMED WHO Y'ALL. 
          YEAH MAN. 
          THAT'S FAIR. 
          OKAY, WE'LL RECESS THEN FROM THE CURRENT TIME TO 1230. 
          AND ANGIE, IF YOU AND CASSIE CAN MAYBE GET IN TOUCH, UH, WITH, I DON'T REMEMBER. 
          UH, SOME OF THESE OTHERS I DON'T EVEN THINK HAVE ANY INCREASES, BUT, UH, HIGHWAY CONTROL MAY BE THE BIGGEST ONE. 
          WE DO HAVE THE GENERAL GOVERNMENT BUDGET THAT WE GO OVER, UH, YOU KNOW, WHERE WE HAVE MONEY IN THERE FOR REPAIRS AND UH, MAINTENANCE AND STUFF LIKE THAT. 
          AND WE'VE GOT COPIES OF THAT. 
          SO WE'RE GONNA NEED TO WORK THAT IN SOMETIME THIS AVERAGE NIGHT. 
          UH, SO, BUT THAT'D BE ANOTHER REASON TO COME BACK A LITTLE EARLY. 
          GOOD. 
          SO, ALRIGHT, WE WILL ADJOURN UNTIL 1230. 
          PIZZA IS ALMOST HERE. 
          IT'S ON WAY I JUST ASKED. 
          IT'S ON WAY. 
          SO SHE'S TALKING TO DON'T FRONT THE, ALRIGHT. 
          YOU'VE GOT A, AS ALWAYS YOU RUN FOR THAT SHIP. 
          AND SO TELL US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT YOUR, UH, ABOUT YOUR BUDGET. 
          UM, THE ONLY THING THE, THE TWO INCREASES THAT I'M ASKING FOR IS ON OUR BOOKS TO INCREASE IT BY 2009 20. 
          AND THAT'S MORE SO TO REINSTATE OUR LARGE DECISIONS. 
          UM, SINCE WE REDUCED IT A LITTLE BIT LAST YEAR, WE HAD TO KIND OF MODIFY OUR LARGE AND WE HAD A POPULATION OF PEOPLE THAT SPECIFICALLY LARGE PRINT. 
          DO YOU STILL DO? SO HOW WOULD YOU IDENTIFY THOSE PEOPLE? UM, ACTUALLY THE COLLECTION, WHEN YOU'RE CHECKING OUT COLLECTION, THOSE BOOKS ARE PICTURE, I MEAN AS A GENERAL DESCRIPTION, HE'S TRYING TO MAKE YOU SAY OLDER. 
          WELL, NOT NECESSARILY. 
          THERE ARE SOME YOUNGER ONES THAT HAD, UM, EYESIGHT, YOU KNOW, MAYBE THEIR EYESIGHT IS NOT WELL, I WAS GONNA SAY, BUT USUALLY THEY ARE, ARE THE OLDER PERSUASION. 
          RIGHT? YEAH. 
          UM, TO REINSTATE THAT. 
          AND ALSO FOR NEW EQUIPMENT TO REPLACE OUR STAFF COMPUTERS. 
          UM, ALL OF THOSE ARE WELL WITHIN 10 YEARS OLD. 
          UM, AND YOU'RE, I KNOW YOU'VE HAD ISSUES WITH THEM AND WE HAVE QUITE A FEW PEOPLE THAT USE YES. 
          NOW, AND WHAT I'M ASKING FOR HERE IS FOR OUR STAFF, OUR, I HAVE WRITTEN SOME GRANTS HOPEFULLY THAT WILL COME THROUGH FOR, TO REPLACE OUR, FOR THE PUBLIC COMPUTER AND I'LL HELP PUBLIC HEAR ABOUT THOSE BY THE END OF THE MONTH. 
          SO I'M, I'M JUST REALLY ASKING FOR THE STAFF THAT YEAH, FOR THE STAFF. 
          FIVE STAFFS RIGHT NOW. 
          HAVE YOU TALKED TO GEORGE TO SEE ABOUT THE POSSIBILITY OF ANYTHING YOU MIGHT HAVE ON HAND THAT I HAD? I ONLY CONSULTED WITH, UM, LORI ON JUST THE PRICING AND GETTING THE QUOTES AND STUFF FOR THE CONSUMERS. 
          BUT I CAN DEFINITELY, UM, WHY DON'T YOU CHECK WITH HIM AND JUST SEE IF WHAT THEY MIGHT HAVE, IF THEY'VE GOT SOMETHING. 
          MAYBE THEY COULD DO SOME THIS YEAR THEN WE WOULDN'T HAVE TO. 
          AND I DON'T KNOW IF THEY MAY, IT MAY NOT HAVE BEEN BUILT THROUGH THAT, BUT IT WOULDN'T HURT. 
          YEAH. 
          THE CHECK. 
          SO, OKAY. 
          YES, I CAN DO THAT. 
          I'M JUST MORE SO JUST CONSULTING WITH THEM, REPLACING THAT AND THE LIBRARY BACK A FEW YEARS AGO WHEN WE WERE CUTTING YOU, WE CUT TWO OR THREE YEARS, 10%. 
          SO THAT'S NEVER BEEN RESTORED. 
          AND SO I KNOW WE DID CUT BACK OUT THE BOOK LABS, SO THIS KIND OF GET YOU BACK, MAY NOT TOTALLY RESTORED BUT GETS YOU BACK. 
          YEAH. 
          AND THIS WILL ALSO KEEP US WITHIN THE, THE STATE LIBRARY GUIDELINES AND THE, OF THE POPULATION THAT WE SERVE AND HOW MANY RESOURCES THAT WE HAVE AVAILABLE TO THEM AS WELL TOO. 
          SO WE 
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ALSO AM ALSO MEETING THOSE SKATERS, KEEPING THOSE THAT WAS IN CHECK AS WELL. 
          THOSE ARE THE ONLY TWO, UM, REQUESTS THAT I HAVE AS FAR AS OKAY. 
          ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? YOU YES. 
          YEAH, DON'T TO CHECK WITH GEORGE AND SEE YEAH. 
          MAYBE DO SOME THIS YEAR AND THEN WE BUDGET, UH, FOR SOME NEXT YEAR. 
          OKAY. 
          JUST KAREN KNOW WHAT THROUGH, I THINK ON THE LARGE PRINT, BUT, UH, PARDON? SO AT LEAST FOR NOW, FOR THE EQUIPMENT DO NOTHING AS FAR AS HAVING WELL NOW YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          WELL GEORGE THEN WE'LL DEPENDING ON TRY TO GET YOU HOLD AS FAR AS FIVE ARE CONCERNED. 
          OKAY. 
          SO YEAH, COUPLE. 
          AND UH, I KNOW ON YOUR SHEET TO SAY AS FAR AS SALARY INCREASES, SO WHEN YOU'RE DOING THAT, UM, THREE PARTTIME, I DIDN'T NEED TO, BUT WHEN YOU'RE, UM, CONSIDERING THOSE INCREASES, YOU HAVE THREE PART-TIME AT THE LIBRARY THAT HAVE BEEN HERE. 
          1 25 PLUS YEARS. 
          10 PLUS YEARS, FIVE PLUS YEARS, AND I THINK THERE ARE BETWEEN EIGHT AND EIGHT 50 EVEN JUST CONSIDERING ABOUT MINUTES TO NINE AN HOUR AND YOU'RE CONSIDERING YOURSELF BASIS. 
          OKAY. 
          A VERY GOOD STAFF. 
          THEY'RE LOYAL, HAVE VERY LITTLE TURNOVER OVER THERE ONCE THE TIME YOU HAVE TO RETIRE. 
          SO WELL JUST, UH, WE NEED TO KIND BUDGET. 
          THAT'S IN OUR EXTERNAL BUDGET. 
          AND WE DID DECREASE THAT MANY YEARS. 
          THOSE YEARS AGO. 
          THEY NEVER REPORTED THAT ABOUT EIGHT 50. 
          THEY DON'T WORK FULL TIME. 
          NO. 
          THE MOST THEY WORK IS 20 HOURS. 
          THEY, THEY SAY ABOUT 50 HOURS A WEEK FOR US. 
          ALL THREE OF THEM. 
          ALL THREE OF THEM, THEY WORK 20, 20 AND ONE WORKS 10. 
          OKAY. 
          SO WE SPREAD THOSE OUT OVER SEVEN DAYS A WEEK. 
          OH, SIX DAYS A WEEK. 
          40. 
          AND WE'RE OPEN 43, 44 HOURS A WEEK. 
          SO THEY USUALLY DO THE SATURDAY HOURS IN THE, LIKE IN THE EVENING. 
          OKAY. 
          SO WHAT WOULD IT TAKE TO, UH, THAT I DIDN'T, BECAUSE I MAY, SO SHE'S, YEAH, WE'LL BE OVER, WE'LL EITHER TRANSFER OR IF WE WENT TO 18, WOULD THAT, IS IT 16 NOW? 18 OR 19 OR 20? WOULD THAT, I SAY AT LEAST THAT 20 20 15. 
          SO WE INCREASE YOUR PART-TIME. 
          MAYBE 20,000 THAT WOULD GET YOU, THAT WOULD HELP. 
          THAT WOULD HELP. 
          YEAH. 
          IS EVERYBODY OKAY WITH THAT CHANGE PART TIME TO, YES. 
          OKAY. 
          ANY QUESTIONS? APPRECIATE YOU. 
          UH, YOU REALLY TAKE CARE OF THE LIBRARY AND I KNOW THERE'S SOME MAINTENANCE ITEMS OUT THERE, CLEANUP ITEMS AND THINGS WE NEED TO DO. 
          PARKING, I KNOW NEEDS TO BE REPLACED, I THINK DOESN'T YEAH, I'LL BE TALKING TO BOBBY ABOUT THAT. 
          WE, UM, I'VE BEEN CONSULTING WITH TALKER. 
          WE HAD THE CONSULTANT OUT AND WE'RE FOR THAT GRANT AND WE CANDIDATE FOR THAT THERE ORIGINAL AND THAT 50,000 WORTH OF FURNITURE IF THE COUNTER CAN STEP IN AND DO THE CARPET AND PAINT THAT WE'LL BE WORKING WITH BOBBY WITH. 
          OKAY. 
          WELL THAT'S BOBBY'S, UH, GOT LOTS OF THINGS HE'S WORKING ON. 
          MAKE SURE TO THAT POOR LIBRARY HAS HAD LOTS OF DAMAGE. 
          YES. 
          AND OUR SIGN STILL DOWN, BUT HE'S WORKING ON, WE'RE WORKING ON IT. 
          GOT INSURANCE COVERAGE ON, BUT AGAIN, YES. 
          TWO PLANES IN THE LAST YEAR. 
          YEAH. 
          ISN'T THIS, YEAH. 
          ANYWAY, MAYBE IT'LL BE SOMETHING DIFFERENT. 
          ONE WITH A DIFFERENT STYLE OR SOMETHING WITH THAT SIGN OUT THERE. 
          OKAY. 
          ANYBODY HAVE ANYTHING ELSE ADD? OKAY. 
          APPRECIATE IT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AND NEXT IS RALPH. 
          RALPH THERE? RALPH? DOES ANYONE KNOW WHOSE KEY THIS IS KAREN. 
          OH, 
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I THOUGHT I WAS GETTING SUGGESTED THAT I NEEDED TO LEAVE FOR THE WITNESS ROOM. 
          GOOD MORNING, AFTERNOON, EVENING NOW. 
          EVENING. 
          HOW YOU I YOU I'M GOOD. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          THANK Y'ALL FOR BEING HERE AND UH, APPRECIATE YOU COMING IN A LITTLE EARLIER. 
          WE'RE MOVING ALONG A LITTLE FASTER THAN WE, UH, THAT'S ALWAYS A GOOD, YEAH. 
          AN ALWAYS KIND OF, KIND OF FLEXIBLE TO BEGIN WITH. 
          BUT, UH, IF YOU'D LIKE TO, UH, TELL US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT YOU GIVING US YOUR BUDGET AND WHAT YOUR REQUESTS ARE. 
          I HAVE, LEMME KIND OF DO A RUNDOWN OF YOU. 
          WE, UH, UH, FIRST OFF, I JUST LIKE TO SAY I APPRECIATE THAT SUPPORT, CONTINUED SUPPORT GIVE US EVER SINCE I'VE BEEN, THE COURT'S BEEN VERY GOOD AT FIRST AND I HOPE THAT WE WORK THE WAY OUR NAME SAYS COOPERATIVE  THE WAY IT OUGHT TO BE. 
          UH, WE, UH, WHEN WE LOOKED AT THE BUDGET, WE, WE HAVE TWO OR THREE THINGS. 
          ONE OF, ONE OF 'EM I REALLY, I NEED TO DISCUSS WITH YOU, NONE OF THESE ARE REALLY GOING TO MAKE OR BREAK US ON, UH, ON GOING UP. 
          BUT I HAVE, HAVE A REASON FOR WHY I PUT THESE THREE, UH, INCREASED REQUESTS HERE. 
          UH, THE FIRST ONE, UH, I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT IS THE COMPUTER LINE ITEM. 
          I'M ACTUALLY NOT ASKING TO GO UP ON THAT, BUT SINCE I TOLD YOU LAST YEAR, IF I BOUGHT COMPUTERS THIS YEAR, I WOULD DROP THAT BACK DOWN. 
          AND, UH, AND WE DID BUY THOSE, BUT WE FIND OURSELVES IN NEED. 
          WE HAD ONE GO OUT THAT'S IN OUR WORK ROOM. 
          WE USE THAT COMPUTER FOR OUR PROGRAM ASSISTANCE. 
          AND UH, AND WE USE IT FOR PEOPLE THAT ARE COMING IN TO GET PESTICIDE APPLICATOR LICENSE, UH, SINCE ALL ONLINE NOW. 
          AND THAT COMPUTER TOTALLY JUST TRY EVERYTHING IT TURN ON . 
          WE USE IT MOSTLY ONLINE. 
          YEAH, IT'S ONLINE STUFF AND IT, IT PROGRAM ASSISTANCE DO THEIR SO THAT WHAT I, AND OUR YOU LISTEN TO THIS SIR, SO WE'LL HAVE TO GET IT BACK IN. 
          OKAY. 
          PROBABLY. 
          WE'LL, WE'LL OFFER I'M FINE. 
          CALL STATION OWNS THEM, BUT THEY RARELY WANT 'EM BACK. 
          SO THE COMPUTER THIS DOWN IS A UNIVERSITY, IT, IT, IT WAS CALLED ON THE COST SHARE PROGRAM. 
          OKAY. 
          AND, UH, OF COURSE ON THAT PROGRAM, THE UNIVERSITY ACTUALLY OWNS THE MACHINE. 
          OKAY. 
          THEY RARELY WANT THE THINGS BACK, BUT TO GET 'EM OFF OF OUR INVENTORY, WE WILL HAVE TO EITHER GET IT BACK TO THEM OR THEY COULD TRANSFER IT IF WANTED. 
          BUT IT'S NOT WORKING HOW THEY HAD ONE. 
          I MEAN, IT IS OLD. 
          IT WAS AN OLD SEVEN OLD, OLD, I THINK IT WASN'T EVEN COGNIZE. 
          THE NEXT SET OF UPDATES, GEORGE, IS ANYTHING YOU HAVE THAT YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO GET THEM GOING OUT THERE SURE. 
          COME UP BECAUSE, UH, YOU KIND OF HEAR A LITTLE BIT, BUT, UH, THEY'VE GOT A COMPUTER. 
          SO I THINK MY UNDERSTANDING IS YOU BUY THAT COMES FROM AUSTIN. 
          RIGHT? RIGHT. 
          YOU KNOW, WE, SO WE DON'T, WE DON'T HAVE ANY ROLE. 
          DOESN'T COME OUT OF OUR MONEY ON TENNIS. 
          THAT'S RIGHT. 
          IT, IT ALL COMES OUT OF MY COMPUTER BUDGET. 
          I MEAN, WE PAY, WE PAY $750 BASICALLY FOR $1,500 MACHINE. 
          WELL WE, WE'VE KIND OF, YOU KNOW, COMPUTERS ARE COMMODITY NOW, RIGHT? WE DON'T CONSIDER THEM, UH, WE LIKE REFURBS. 
          YEAH. 
          AND THE LIFECYCLE OF A COMPUTER IS, SO FIRST OF ALL, PEOPLE USE MOBILE LIGHTS, SO WE'LL SPEND FOUR, 500 BUCKS AND WE JUST CHARGE. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND, AND SEE FOR THIS COMPUTER, FOR THIS PARTICULAR COMPUTER, I WOULDN'T MIND THE COUNTY, JUST, IF Y'ALL HAVE ONE, WE COULD COME OUT OUR BUDGET WITH IT AND Y'ALL OWN THE COMPUTER AND IT'S DONE. 
          IT DONE. 
          IT'S REALLY, IT'S ONLY USED BY THE PUBLIC. 
          IT'S USED BY PEOPLE IN THIS COUNTY AND THEN USED BY OUR PROGRAM SYSTEMS. THOSE ARE THE YEAH, WE WOULD, IT'S PROBABLY NOT USED A LOT. 
          PROBABLY SOME FOLKS COULD IN THERE. 
          YEAH. 
          WELL IT USED GOOD BIT EXCUSED ALMOST EVERY DAY. 
          PRETTY MUCH EVERY DAY. 
          KINDA LIKE A KIOSK WALKING OFF THE STREET KIND OF THING. 
          YEAH. 
          I KIND OF SAW, YEAH, THAT PI JUST PUT A BRIEFER, BUT YOU USED TO BE THERE WERE $2,000. 
          THERE'S NONE ANYMORE RIGHT THERE. 
          SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT, ANYWAY, THAT'S WHY I'VE GOT THAT TO, TO I WANT TO EXPLAIN FOUR, 500 BUCKS, GEORGE. 
          YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          I MEAN KEEP THE SAME MONITOR AND UH, JUST GET REFURB CPU AND PUT IT IN THERE DEPENDING ON WHAT THEY'RE DOING WITH IT. 
          AND IT'S CURRENTLY DOWN NOW 
          [00:35:01]
IS THAT SOMETHING YOU TAKE? SURE. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          SO WHAT YOU HAVE, YEAH. 
          AND WE JUST, YAMA WAS JUST IN HERE ABOUT HER, UH, IN TERMS HER, UH, EMPLOYEE, UH, COMPUTER. 
          SHE HAS FIVE. 
          YEAH, SHE HAS FIVE THAT SHE, SHE HAS FIVE  NOW. 
          SHE FILED THROUGH THE GATES FOUNDATION FOR GRANTS FOR THE WHOLE BUDGET STUFF. 
          NOW THESE ARE NOT FOR THE PUBLIC. 
          THESE ARE JUST FOR HER EMPLOYEES. 
          DOES GATES NOT UH, SHE DIDN'T SAY THAT. 
          SHE JUST SAID DALE. 
          YEAH, SHE JUST SAID THAT. 
          YEAH. 
          I BELIEVE THEY ARE ALL PAID FOR, UH, FOR BILL GATES FOR EMPLOYEES. 
          SHE, BUT SHE'S GOING TO GET IN TOUCH WITH YOU ABOUT THAT. 
          BE AWARE OF THAT. 
          YEAH, SHE NEEDED NEW MONITORS TOO. 
          SURE. 
          SO THE OTHER THING THAT WE HAVE DISCUSSED DOING IS, UH, SINCE WE RUN, UH, A GOOD BIT OF MONEY THROUGH, UH, THINGS LIKE OUR HHO PROGRAMS, ALL OUR AGRICULTURAL PROGRAMS, KATIE'S PROGRAMS, UH, A GOOD MANY FOUR H THINGS THAT WE DO, WE HAVE LOOKED INTO GETTING A CREDIT CARD READER, UH, TO START TAKING THE PUBLIC. 
          JUST THEY WANT TO USE A CREDIT CARD. 
          I DON'T CARE OPERATES. 
          YES. 
          I DON'T, EVERYBODY DEBITS SOME CREDIT. 
          SO WE'RE, WE'RE LOOKING INTO DOING THAT. 
          OF COURSE WE HAVE TO CHARGE A, A SMALL FEE TO EVERYBODY THAT DID THAT SO WE COULD COME OUT EVEN. 
          UH, BUT UH, PART OF THAT, THAT COMPUTER LINE ITEM WOULD GO FOR BUYING US AN IPAD, A MINI IPAD TO RUN THAT, UH, CREDIT CARD AGREEMENT. 
          AND ANYWAY, THAT, THAT'S MY COMPUTER BUDGET. 
          THE REASON I'M NOT GIVING A THOUSAND DOLLARS BACK TO YOU IS, UH, I HAD REASON TO SPEND IT ON THOSE, THOSE ITEMS. UH, THE CREDIT CARD CARD BREEDER. 
          IS THAT SOMETHING WE CAN SO IF YOU'RE GONNA USE THAT, IF YOU'RE GONNA USE A MOBILE DEVICE LIKE AN IPHONE, AN IPAD COMPANY CALLED SQUARE MAKES ONE RIGHT SQUARE PLUG RIGHT INTO THE IPAD. 
          AND THAT'S THE ONE WE'RE LOOKING AT SQUARE. 
          YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          THAT'S GOOD PRODUCT. 
          YEAH. 
          THAT'S THE ONE WE'RE LOOKING AT. 
          OF COURSE WE DON'T, I MEAN ALL OF OUR TELEPHONES ARE ARE PRIVATE TELEPHONES, SO WE DON'T WANT YOU TO DO THAT. 
          SO WE GOING, WE DON'T WANT HIRE PHONE TO MINI IPAD TO RUN THAT CREDIT CARD WITH AND LEAVE IT THERE WITH SHARING SO THEY, WHEN PEOPLE COME IN OR WE CAN CARRY THE PROGRAMS FOR PEOPLE TO PAY. 
          WELL WE KNOW OTHER COUNTIES THAT, UH, OTHER COUNTY OFFICER HAVE GONE TO THAT PROGRAM AND IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S TIME FOR US TO STEP UP AND DO IT AND THEN ONLY USE THE CREDIT CARD THERE IN THE OFFICE. 
          NO, WE'LL TAKE CARRY AROUND TO THE FAIR GROUND CARRY AROUND, UH, AGENTS TRAVEL. 
          UH, THIS ONE, THIS ONE MIGHT BE A, A LITTLE HARDER TO EXPLAIN. 
          UH, WE DID THIS WITH YOU LAST YEAR. 
          WELL YOU DID DO THIS WITH ME LAST YEAR. 
          NOW, UM, UM, CARRIE IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT. 
          CARRIE CARRIE'S ON A COMMITTEE, A NATIONAL COMMITTEE FOR THE, UH, NATIONAL FOUR X THING AND SHE NEEDS TO GO TO NEW ORLEANS FOR THAT NATIONAL CONVENTION THEY'RE HAVING IN NOVEMBER. 
          UH, SO I, I TALKED, UH, TO THE AUTHOR'S OFFICE ABOUT HOW WE CAN DO THIS. 
          SHE HAD SOME MONEY LEFT OVER THIS YEAR, BUT IT CAN'T BE PAYING FOR THE MOTEL THING FOR NEXT YEAR AND BLAH BLAH BLAH. 
          SO WE'RE GOING TO GIVE SOME MONEY BACK. 
          WE DON'T, WE'RE NOT ACTUALLY GONNA SPEND ALL OF OUR BUDGET THIS YEAR. 
          UH, KATIE'S NOT GONNA SPEND ALL SOME OF HERS AND CARRIE'S NOT GONNA SPEND ALL TEACH YOU AN EXTRA IN YOUR CROWN. 
          RIGHT. 
          SO, SO WE'RE GOING TO GIVE SOME ABOUT $1,100, WE THINK A MINIMUM OF 1100 BACK TO THE COUNTY THIS YEAR. 
          BUT WE NEED A TRAVEL INCREASE FOR NEXT YEAR. 
          WE THOUGHT SHE THOUGHT SHE COULD SPEND THIS YEAR. 
          YEAH, CAN. 
          YEAH. 
          BUT IT DOES TRANSFER. 
          SO WE'RE ASKING FOR AN INCREASE FOR NEXT YEAR. 
          SO, UH, ONE TIME INCREASE REASONABLE IN THAT. 
          CORRECT? YES MA'AM. 
          WHEN YOU SERVE ON SOME OF THOSE COMMITTEES THOUGH, DON'T THEY PAY THROUGH YOUR STUFF FOR GIVE YOU PART OF A REIMBURSEMENT OR SOMETHING? WELL, THAT'S NOT WITH THE, NOT NOT WITH THIS PARTICULAR THING AT ALL. 
          THIS IS A, A NATIONAL BOARD INC. 
          CONFERENCE. 
          THERE'S NO COMMITTEE THING. 
          IF, YOU KNOW, I, AND, AND THEN CARRIE CARRIE'S, I'LL GET A LITTLE DEFENSE HERE. 
          SHE'S GOING ON SOME PRETTY BIG TRIPS HERE COMING UP. 
          SHE'S GOT, UH, SHE'S GOING TAKE A BUNCH OF FOUR ACRES TO SCOTLAND AND BECAUSE SHE WENT OUT AND RECRUITED ENOUGH FOUR H AGENTS, THEY'RE GOING TO COMP HER COMP, NOT GONNA COST, NOT GONNA CALL COUNTY OR ANYBODY ELSE, ANYBODY TO DO THAT. 
          AND SHE'S GOT ANOTHER ONE. 
          SHE'S COMP 
          [00:40:01]
FOUR. 
          I THINK SHE HAS TO, 22 OF THEM IS I SHE'LL LEARN EVERY, YEAH, HE CAN'T SAY THAT EXACTLY RIGHT. 
          UH, THE EDUCATIONAL MATERIALS, UH, INCREASE. 
          UH, WE'RE ASKING FAR FROM THREE TO A THOUSAND DOLLARS. 
          WE USUALLY SPEND THAT $3,000 EVERY YEAR, UH, UH, ON EDUCATIONAL MATERIALS. 
          BUT OUR LAB, UH, MEETING, WE, WE KNOW THAT, UH, THAT MEETING WE HAD HERE A COUPLE WEEKS AGO, OUR, WHAT WE CALL OUR EXTENSION EXPO, OUR INTERPRETATION EVENT FOR ELECTED OFFICIAL STAKEHOLDERS, UH, THAT THAT THING RUNS US A LITTLE BIT OF MONEY THIS YEAR. 
          AND, AND IT'S ABOUT A THOUSAND DOLLARS. 
          AND UH, FRANKLY, I'LL JUST TELL Y'ALL THAT, THAT SKET LIVE, UH, THEY DONATED THE MONEY FOR US TO HAVE THAT PROGRAM. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AND COOKED TO HAMBURGERS TOO. 
          AND, AND THEY COOKED HAMBURGERS EXCUSE AND GOOD HAMBURGERS. 
          YES, IT WAS. 
          BUT, BUT OUR OVERALL COMMITTEE, OUR LAB COMMITTEE, WHICH IS OUR, WHICH IS OUR LEADERSHIP ADVISORY BOARD. 
          YEAH. 
          WHICH IS MADE UP OF ALL THE COMMITTEES WE HAVE AND THEN SOME OTHER PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY ALSO. 
          IT REALLY DOESN'T CARRY MONEY. 
          WE DON'T HAVE A, THEY DON'T HAVE A BUNCH, WE DON'T HAVE A BUNCH OF MONEY FROM THAT. 
          SO, UH, WE'VE KIND OF THOUGHT MAYBE WE MIGHT ASK FOR A THOUSAND DOLLARS THIS YEAR SO WE CAN FUND THAT, THAT THAT PARTICULAR PROGRAM. 
          THAT ONE PROGRAM. 
          SO I, YOU KNOW, AND THOSE ARE MY INCREASES. 
          OKAY. 
          ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT NO. 
          NOPE. 
          ON THE COMPUTER. 
          SO YOU DON'T NEED THE FULL 1250 IF WE'RE GONNA GET A WELL YOU WANT TO INCREASE 2,500 MAYBE NEEDS 1250 THEN 1250. 
          YOU ANOTHER 1250. 
          YEAH. 
          CURRENT 1250 REQUEST IS AN ADDITIONAL HE NEEDS TO IPAD TOO. 
          GEORGE MAY BE ABLE TO HELP ON, I THINK SHE WROTE THAT WRONG. 
          OH YEAH. 
          OH YEAH, YOU'RE RIGHT. 
          I GOT IT. 
          IS, BUT THERE IS A CHANCE THAT GEORGE MAY BE, THAT CAN CERTAINLY DEPEND ON WHICH ONE YOU BUY, HOW MUCH IT IS. 
          WHAT ABOUT THE IPAD, GEORGE? HOW MUCH CAN YOU GET THOSE? YEAH, WE GET 'EM ALL TIME CHEAP. 
          WE BUY IN VOLUME SO WE GET A BETTER BUY. 
          OKAY. 
          PRICE WISE, I'LL TO CHECK IT WHEN WE TARGET WHETHER YOU WANT ONE OF THESE OR YOU WANT MINI, SO WE MIGHT, SO WE MIGHT CONTINUE. 
          YOU WANT A MINI WANT MINI OUR CREDIT CARD. 
          HE HAS ONE. 
          I HE'S GONNA VOLUNTEER ONE. 
          YOU GOT A MINI? I MAY HAVE A MINI. 
          I'M JUST GETTING, WE NEED, I I'LL CHECK. 
          I DON'T THINK IT'S BEING USED. 
          THERE YOU GO. 
          SO, SO HE, HE'S SAYING THAT WE CAN A FEW FOR 500 BUCKS, WE WOULDN'T HAVE TO INCREASE IT. 
          OKAY. 
          AND IF HE'S GOT A MENU THAT'S  AND I THINK THE SQUARES, WHEN YOU ORDER A SQUARE, THEY COME FREE. 
          YEAH. 
          IT'S SERVICE. 
          IT'S JUST A SERVICE. 
          YOUR PAYING RIGHT. 
          WE NEED TO INCREASE SOMETHING TO PAY THAT SERVICE. 
          NO, THEY TAKE IT OUT. 
          NO, TAKE IT OUT. 
          CHARGE ON THE CARD. 
          THE CREDIT CARD TEACH THEM PROBABLY COST 20 BUCKS. 
          IT'S GONNA COST THEM. 
          SO YOU JUST GET MUCH CHECKS OR CASH. 
          WE GETTING THEM. 
          BUT WE GET, WE GET LOTS OF PEOPLE AND IT'S THE PEOPLE THAT CALL AND SAY, CAN'T I NOT CHARGE? CAN I NOT COME PAY WITH MY CREDIT CARD? SORRY, WE GET CASH. 
          WE CAN'T MAIL CASH AT WALMART. 
          A CHECK. 
          THEY GET IT OUT. 
          YEAH. 
          THAT'S PRETTY RARE TO SEE ANYBODY WRITE A CHECK ANYMORE AND STOLE. 
          AND IF THEY DO, THEY GENERALLY JUST HAND IT TO 'EM AND THEY RUN IT THROUGH THE MACHINE. 
          HAND IT BACK TO YOU DON'T EVEN HAVE TO CHECK. 
          GIVE A CHECK. 
          I'LL LET APPRECIATE HAND THAT. 
          GIVE YOU WHAT Y'ALL 25. 
          SO WE ARE ACTUALLY INCREASING 25 THAT FOR THE, BUT THE TRAVEL JUST A ONE SHOT DEAL THIS YEAR. 
          OH RIGHT. 
          SO, SO WE'RE NOT INCREASING THE COMPUTER EQUIP TAKING ALL THAT OUT. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          NOW YOU HAVE A EDUCATION. 
          YOU HAVE, 
          [00:45:01]
AND ON THE TRIP YOU HAD 15, 15, 1500, 2500. 
          YOU GOT THAT. 
          THE EQUIPMENT. 
          BUT COMPUTER EQUIPMENT STAYING THE SAME. 
          RIGHT. 
          RALPH? THE OTHER DAY WHEN WE WERE DISCUSSING THIS NEW HAUL TRAP TRAP, RIGHT. 
          UH, I NOTICED YOU DIDN'T PUT THAT THAT HERE AND SO I DIDN'T, I DIDN'T FOR A REASON. 
          OKAY. 
          UH, I'M NOT SURE NOW. 
          OR YOU'RE NOT GOING GO ANYWHERE NEXT FEW DAYS. 
          ARE YOU? I'VE GOT IT. 
          COPY YOU GOT TRAP SET FOR YOU ? NO, THE TD GRANT HAS TO TO BE IN BY JUNE 15TH, WHICH IS NEXT WEEK. 
          AND UH, YOU HAVE TO SIGN. 
          I'M HERE. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          LONG YOU'RE NOT BUT I THOUGHT THERE WAS GOING BE A, UH, WHAT I WAS ABOUT YOU SAID THE FORAGE COMMITTEE. 
          I WAS, I WAS THINKING ABOUT BUYING ONE OF THESE NEW FANCY TRASH, THINKING ABOUT PAYING HALF OF IT. 
          IF I COULD GET THE COMMISSIONERS TO PAY HALF. 
          QUITE FRANKLY, I, HERE'S WHAT I THINK WE ALREADY TOLD. 
          KIND OF TELL SO EVERYBODY KNOWS WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. 
          ALRIGHT, SO, SO THERE'S UH, NOBLE FOUNDATION HAS, UH, DEVELOPED A HOG TRAP THAT, UH, THAT IT'S QUITE SIMPLY THE BEST TRAP I'VE EVER SEEN. 
          AND THEN YOU CAN DO IT REMOTELY IF IT'S ALL KINDS OF GADGET THINGS. 
          WE WATCH IT AT HOME ON YOUR WATCH THE ALL TOGETHER, YOU CAN BE SITTING DOWN YOUR MARGARITA AND WE THAT THE BIGGEST THING ABOUT IT IS IT CAN BE MACHINE 30 MINUTES. 
          IT, IT'S EASY TO MOVE. 
          THAT'S THE PROBLEM WITH ALL THE CRAP WE'VE GOT NOW. 
          IS THAT HARD TO MOVE? NOBODY WANTS THE, WITH EM BECAUSE IT TAKES A DAY AND HALF, THREE PEOPLE DRIVING. 
          BUT THIS ONE COMING IN FOUR PIECES, IT'S COMING IN SECTION. 
          I'M NOT SURE IF IT FOUR OR FIVE OR HOW MANY, BUT, BUT THE BOARD THAT DEVELOPED IT FROM THE OLD FOUNDATION, ONLY IF WE BUY ONE, HE'D COME DOWN HERE AND BRING EVERYBODY ON. 
          HOW TO, WHAT YOU MENTIONED TO ME THE DAY THAT THE AHO PEOPLE ON THE FORAGE COMMISSION, THEY SAID IT'S ABOUT $6,000. 
          IT'S 6,000 AND THEY WOULD PAY FOR HALF OF IT IF THE COMMISSIONERS WOULD PAY FOR HALF OF IT. 
          IS THAT OFFER STILL ON THE TABLE? I THINK SO, BUT, BUT I, I'LL TELL YOU, UH, WHAT I'D REALLY LIKE TO DO IS NO, I MEAN I DON'T WANT, I DON'T WANT IT ON MY PLACE, SOMEBODY TO MAKE A DEAL. 
          I WOULD LIKE TO APPLY FOR THE GRANT AND SEE IF WE CAN GET THIS GRANT IF WE CAN AND WE CAN BUY THAT MONEY FOR OKAY. 
          UH, AND IF WE DON'T THEN WE CAN COME BACK. 
          GET HOW LONG YOU KNOW ABOUT I THINK WE'LL KNOW ABOUT YOU. 
          I, OKAY, WELL LET'S, HOW LONG WOULD THE OTHER THING BE A GRANT? THOUSAND SIGN A FORM SELL THE HOG. 
          I'VE HEARD, I'VE HEARD THROUGH THE GRAPEVINE THAT NO LAW PEOPLE HAD SIGNED UP FOR THIS ELECTION. 
          THAT'S TRUE. 
          THAT, THAT GIVES US A LITTLE BIT BETTER OPPORTUNITY. 
          I'VE GOT A HUNDRED I THINK AND MAYBE ON 175 HOGS STATUS. 
          SO, AND THEN I CAN COUNT THE 121 PEOPLE THAT CAME TO THE INTERPRETATION OF THE, AND IT GIVES US THE SHOT THAT'S BETTER THAN WHAT PERSON NOW WOULD AND THAT'S THE REASON YOU WANT KNOW IF I WAS GOING TO BE AROUND GRANT, ILL BE, YEAH, AS FAR AS I KNOW I'LL BE HERE. 
          SO I'LL WRITE THE GRANT BY THURSDAY I THINK. 
          OKAY. 
          THAT'D BE GOOD. 
          SO, UH, I GUESS GRANT, SO WE WOULD KNOW PRETTY SOON ON GRANT REAL. 
          AND UH, IS THERE INTEREST ON THE COURT IF WE DON'T GET THE GRANT TO COME BACK AND MATCH WHAT YOUR THEY TRY BUY THESE THINGS. 
          YEAH. 
          HOW LONG IS THE FOREST OFFICER FOR? A GOOD PARDON? WHERE THEY PAY HALF? I THINK SO. 
          I MEAN, THEY'VE GOT MONEY. 
          THEY OH, SO IT'S GOOD. 
          YEAH, IT'S FOR WHATEVER PAYING FOR. 
          YEAH. 
          SO IF IT IS DECIDED, THEN WE CAN SAY OKAY AND WE CAN GET THE OTHER HALF FROM THEM IF THIS DOESN'T WORK. 
          YEAH, WE CAN COME BACK TO WHERE YOU REVISIT. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          AND THEN, UM, HOW THERE'S GOING BE, 'CAUSE EVERYBODY IN THE WORLD GONNA WANT TO, SO I, I THINK THAT WHAT WE HAVE TO DO IS SET A, A FEE. 
          WELL, I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW IF $200 RUNS INTO MY HEAD. 
          I I I'M THINKING ABOUT CHARGING $200 JUST TO HAVE IT. 
          MAYBE GIVE A HUNDRED OF THAT BACK TO THEM IF THEY DON'T TEAR IT UP. 
          UH, NO, I CAN KEEP TALKING. 
          THAT THAT WAS MY ARE NOT, I MEAN THEY'RE, THEY'RE STILL A HUGE PROBLEM 
          [00:50:01]
ALL ACROSS THE COUNTY. 
          THEY'RE WORSE EVERY DAY. 
          THEY'RE GOING AWAY AS THE MOISTURE INCREASES. 
          THE HO WONDER IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT, UH, FOUR H OR SOMEBODY TRAIN KIDS, YOU KNOW, THAT OLDER KIDS AND OLDER ACTUALLY GO OUT AND SET IT UP. 
          OLDER KIDS. 
          YOU KNOW, THE THING ABOUT CATCHING ALL NUMBER ONE, ONCE YOU CATCH THEM, WHATCHA GONNA DO? OKAY, YOU GOT, I SHOOT THEM, YOU GOT TWO CHOICES. 
          YOU EITHER SHOOT THEM STA OR YOU CARRY 'EM TO A BUYER. 
          WELL YOU GOTTA MAKE ARRANGEMENTS TO LOAD 'EM ON THAT TRAILER AND CARRY 'EM. 
          BUYER. 
          YOU ALWAYS HAVE TO HAVE, YOU ALWAYS HAVE TO HAVE MARKET. 
          BUT THAT, THAT'S, THAT'S HOW MANY THE GUY AROUND HERE? WELL THERE WAS THAT GUY AT ROCKWELL. 
          I DON'T KNOW IF HE'S STILL PAYING FOR, BUT IF IF GUY IN FORT WORTH STILL PAYING FOR, I MEAN, HAUL HIM OVER AND LEFT. 
          WELL THE GUY, THERE'S A GUY JEFF JOHNSON, HE WORKING WITH THE SCHOOL SYSTEM IN S AND HE'S GOT A BUYING STATION RIGHT DOWN IN ROCKFORD AND YOU CAN CARRY HIM RIGHT TO THERE ON THAT UH, COUNTY LINE ROAD. 
          COUNTY LINE ROAD IS DOWN THERE ABOUT HALF MILE LEFT. 
          AND HE, HE'LL WEIGH EM RIGHT THERE AND HE'LL GIVE YOU, HE'LL PAY YOU LONG LIVES. 
          LONG LIVES, YEAH. 
          AND HE, UH, OF COURSE HE GIVES YOU ENOUGH MONEY, HE'S GONNA PAY FOR YOUR CORN. 
          ALL HIS BASIC STUFF, YOU KNOW, EVERY NOW AND THEN I JUST, THE GRANT, WE'LL GO FROM THERE. 
          OKAY. 
          I I THINK THAT'S DEAL. 
          I DIDN'T MEAN TO HAVE THAT LONG DISCUSSION, BUT I DO THINK I, THE GRANTS THE WAY TO GO. 
          IF WE CAN GET THAT GRANT THAT'S 5,000 FOR THE 6,000. 
          YEAH. 
          THE BIGGEST, I THINK THE BIGGEST ISSUE YOU'LL BE GIVING WITH US WHO, WHO'S GONNA GET IT NEXT? I THINK SO. 
          THAT'S A GOOD PROBLEM. 
          IT'S GOOD PROBLEM. 
          THEN WE CAN JUST DIVIDE ANOTHER THE VIDEO YOU, YOU SHOW AFTER THERE. 
          I MEAN THEY WERE CATCHING 1215 AT A TIME. 
          YEAH. 
          THEY CALLED UH, THAT BOY, UH, UP THERE. 
          HE CALLED MANY 60 IN THAT 60 PROBABLY. 
          THEY WERE PROBABLY STANDING ON TOP OF EACH OTHER. 
          SOME OF THEM WERE KIDNAPPED. 
          YOU KNOW, I'VE HEARD OF A FEW INSTANCES, AND Y'ALL MAY GET CALLS ON THIS, BUT SOME OF THE HOS DOWN COMING INTO THE CITY NEIGHBORHOODS AND THAT REALLY DOES FOLKS, FOLKS DOWN AROUND WHY ALL OVER OVER THERE TABLE THEY DO. 
          THEY JUST DON'T SEE THEM. 
          DON GO OUT IN THE DAMAGE. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          THANK YOU'ALL. 
          APPRECIATE THANK YOU. 
          APPRECIATE THANK YOU. 
          I ALL GEORGE YOU ON, YOU'RE GOING GET, UH, YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO BE HERE AT ONE 50 AND YOU'RE GOING TO GET ABOUT A, A LITTLE EARLIER START THAN USUAL. 
          SO THANK YOU MEETING HERE. 
          AND TELL US WHAT YOU GOT YOUR MIND. 
          SOMEBODY'S GREEN GOING IN OUR NEW MOBILE READY WEBSITE. 
          OUR ISSUE HAS ALWAYS STYLE WEBSITE. 
          YOU CAN'T NAVIGATE WITH A PHONE ONE HAND. 
          OKAY. 
          YOU SCROLL HERE, COURT, AND THEN YOU GO THROUGH, SEE THERE'S PROCEDURES AND, AND SO TO NAVIGATE JUST VERY SIMPLE PAPER BUTTONS AND EVERYTHING YOU NEED, WHETHER IT BE DEPART DIRECTORY OR WE GONNA HAVE THIS. 
          SO THIS GOING, THIS IS OUR NEW IT. 
          WE'RE GONNA HAVE ALL THEIR REVIEW IT, MAKE SURE THAT THE CONTENT IS WHAT YOU WANT. 
          SO THIS, WE HAVE IT AT COFFMAN COUNTY BOARD RIGHT NOW. 
          GO OF COURSE COFFMAN COUNTY DO NET HAS ALWAYS BEEN, BUT WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE IT SIMPLE, EASY NAVIGATE SO WE DON'T HAVE, IT'S SO HARD ON THE OLD STYLE SITE TO FIND THINGS. 
          SO IT'S SOMETHING THAT GAGE PUT TOGETHER ON HIS, HIS PART IS THERE'S A LINK BUTTON THAT SAYS FIND, SO YOU CLICK, YOU GO TO GAGE'S SITE, YOU PRECINCT OR YOU GO TO, THEY'RE WORKING ON. 
          SO WHAT WHAT IT DOES IS IT ACTUALLY MATCHES THAT. 
          YEAH. 
          WHEREVER YOU WANT. 
          ANYWAY, I JUST THOUGHT TO BRING THAT UP. 
          SO IN YOUR SPARE 
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TIME, I WANT TO THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          I APPRECIATE YOUR GUYS FOR COMING DOWN THERE AND ATTACHING THE ROAD. 
          . 
          IN THE OLD DAYS IT WAS PATCHES. 
          THEY TOOK A SECTION ROAD, IT LOOKED LIKE IT WAS IN ILLUSION AND INSTEAD OF PATCHING IT ATTACH, THEY CAME IN THE DAY. 
          ALL THAT LAST SECTION, ALL THAT RAIN CAME THAT DOWN THERE AND WENT THROUGH ALL THAT. 
          LIKE WHEN HE BUTTER YOU UP YEAH. 
          SOMETHING COMING. 
          YEAH, THIS, I REALLY DID APPRECIATE THAT BECAUSE IT GOTTA BE WHERE, YOU KNOW, IF, IF, IF IT WAS RAISED, BUT WE'RE DOING THIS ANYWAY. 
          YEAH. 
          WE'RE DOING OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT DRIVING FOR NO CHARGE PLAN. 
          OKAY. 
          GEORGE, YOU WANT TO GO OVER UH, ADD IT PRETTY WELL. 
          UH, SO I THINK ONE ISSUE THAT BOBBY AND I TALKED ABOUT, WE'VE GOT WITH J AND AS YOU KNOW, AND YOU MAY NOT KNOW SINCE THE MURDER, TYLER, THE COURTHOUSE SHOOTING, UH, OUR COUNTY HAS SPENT ABOUT A MILLION DOLLARS ON INFRASTRUCTURE. 
          WE RELY ON REVENUES FOR MONEY FROM SECURITY, JP SECURITY. 
          WE'RE AT A POINT NOW WHERE, SO PERMISS MISSION LAST YEAR WE NEEDED SOMEHOW GET A GAME PLAN. 
          SO BOBBY AND I TALKED, WE THOUGHT HE OUGHT TO BE FOR THE CARE FIRST POINT CONTACT BECAUSE OFTEN IT'S AS SIMPLE AS A DOOR STRIKE OR SOMETHING MECHANIC. 
          AND WE AND I WORK TOGETHER ON THE TECHNOLOGY PIECE. 
          WE WORK TOGETHER AND MAKE SURE IT DOES WHAT THE DEPARTMENT WANTS. 
          PROBLEM IS WE RELY ON REVENUES AREAS. 
          WE HAVE THE SOUTH CAMPUS, WE HAVE A LOT OF BUILDINGS. 
          SO I TALKED TO THE JUDGE LAST WEEK AND OUR THOUGHT WOULD BE MAYBE PUT SOMETHING OUT THERE. 
          SO GOING FORWARD WE HAVE A S BECAUSE WHAT HAPPENED OVER THE YEARS IS I WOULD TAKE MONIES OUT COMPUTER INFRASTRUCTURE, WHICH IS ALREADY GONNA BE DESIGNATED FOR SO MONTHS SPENDING ON THESE REPAIR. 
          SO JUST THINK ABOUT THAT. 
          SOME KIND OF A GAME PLAN I GOT WITH, UH, KW LAST WEEK. 
          HE TOOK TWO VENDORS, OUR TWO VENDORS, THEY ALARM AND THE COMPANY I OCK WAS HER NAME AGAIN. 
          A, IT WAS ALARM AND GUARDIAN. 
          GUARDIAN SECURITY. 
          THAT WAS ABOUT THREE QUARTER MILLION. 
          ANYWAY, SO AS YOU KNOW, UH, WE, YOU HAVE TO MAINTAIN OR MANAGE YOU, THINGS LIKE THAT. 
          AND WE, AGAIN, WE BEGAN THE PROCESS BECAUSE OF WHAT HAPPENED IN TYLER. 
          THE REASON I GOT INVOLVED, ONLY BECAUSE SHERIFF WAS IN CHARGE OF COURTHOUSE SECURITY BACK THEN WE HAD IT TO WHERE FROM THE, SO WE COULD MONITOR AND LEAVE ANYONE ANYWHERE BUT YOU, THAT'S A BAD IDEA. 
          MAYBE WE NEED TO GET AWAY FROM THAT. 
          BUT I THINK, UH, THIS COMMISSIONER I THINK HAD THE BEST IDEA AND MAYBE WE SHOULD JUST GO TO COSTCO AND PUT CAMERAS IN, YOU KNOW, A BUILDING. 
          MAYBE THAT'S THE ANSWER. 
          I DUNNO. 
          BUT IF WE, BECAUSE THE CONSTABLE IS RESPONSIBLE FOR SECURITY FOR THE JP, SO MAYBE WE NEED TO NOT TRY TO CENTRALIZE ALL AND WE OUGHT TO TRY TO PUSH IT OUT, YOU KNOW, THE INDIVIDUAL BUILDINGS. 
          SO THAT'S JUST, AND NONE OF THAT IS REFLECTED IN THIS QUESTION. 
          I'M JUST SAYING SINCE 2004 WE'VE BEEN IN THIS BUSINESS AND IT'S KIND OF, IT'S BEEN KIND OF HALF. 
          WELL THEY HAVE, THEY DO, THEY DO. 
          BUT HERE'S, BUT HERE'S THE PROBLEM. 
          WE GET TOGETHER, LET'S BID IT. 
          OH, THAT'S TOO MUCH. 
          OR LET'S GET TWO OR THREE TOGETHER NOW WE WANT DO THAT. 
          WELL I CAN'T DO THIS PART OF THE BUILDING. 
          I CAN'T DO THAT PART OF THE BUILDING. 
          AND THAT'S WORKED WELL WAS TERRIBLE. 
          WE HAD, THEY PAID PAID THIRD, UH, WE DO THE REST OF THE TAX STUFF WORKED OUT WELL. 
          WE DO A LOT OF WORK, BUT IT'S HARD TO GET EVERYBODY ON THE SAME PAGE. 
          BUT I THINK ME AND BOBBY, ALL US WORKING TOGETHER AND WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT, I THINK WE CAN MAKE IT PRECINCT TWO. 
          I THINK THERE'S BEEN A, AND THAT HADN'T BEEN AN ISSUE. 
          WE WANTED TO TRY TO PUT A PACKAGE TOGETHER, BUT YOU KNOW, WHEN WE FIRST STARTED TWO, THEN IT WAS TWO, ONE AND FOUR, THEN NO ONE COULDN'T DO ONE BECAUSE WE'RE CARRYING WATER APART BECAUSE, SO ANYWAY, THE THING IS, ME AND BOBBY, WE CAN'T CONTROL THEIR MONEY. 
          WE HAVE NO AUTHORITY TO SAY HERE'S THE BEST PLAN. 
          WE SHOULD BUY THIS JUST UNDER THEIR YEAH. 
          AT THIS POINT WE'RE KIND OF LIKE, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE, THAT'S WHAT, THAT'S WHAT GOT ME. 
          I SAID, WELL IF THEY'RE NOT GONNA DO ANYTHING, I'VE BEEN 1200 BY, BUT I GO HERE AND PROBABLY PUT 
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IT IN. 
          WE, WE HAVE 16 CAMERAS ALL AROUND THIS THING. 
          GO SEE EVERYTHING THERE IS. 
          AND THEY ZOOM AND THEY DO EVERYTHING. 
          AND HIS POINT, HIS POINT, MAYBE THE BEST IDEA IS NOT TO TRY TO HAVE MONITOR, NOT TO TRY TO HAVE NETWORK. 
          WE USED TO, MAYBE THAT'S A BAD IDEA. 
          I WELL THEY'D STILL BE HOOKED UP TO A MONITORING THERE THAT JUST IN CONSTABLES. 
          YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          THE CONSTABLES WOULD SEE IT. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND AND THAT'S A GOOD POINT BECAUSE THEY, THEY, THEY'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR, WELL OF COURSE THAT'S A FAIRLY SMALL BUILDING. 
          YEAH, OF COURSE. 
          INCLUDE PARKING LOT. 
          WELL, 16 CAMERAS GETS, I MEAN IT HAVE NOW FOUR OR FIVE, FOUR OR FIVE CAMERAS. 
          I MEAN THAT'S, ITS NONE ON THE OUTSIDE. 
          A LOT OF MONEY GOING THROUGH THAT. 
          IT MAKES NO SENSE. 
          WELL SEE, I HAVE NO AUTHORITY TO ACT. 
          I CAN'T DO IT. 
          I CAN BRING, BRING IN VENDORS AND WE CAN DO, WE CAN DO BIDS AND ON, BUT IT, IT GETS TO BE NO ONE'S REALLY IN CHARGE. 
          RIGHT. 
          YOU CAN, IT'S FRACTURE, IT'S FRACTURED. 
          YEAH. 
          MAYBE WE'LL TAKE MONEY FROM HERE. 
          MAYBE WE'LL TAKE MONEY FROM HERE. 
          YOU KNOW, AND THEN YOU CALL THE VENDOR IN, WE BID IT AND OH, LET'S COME BACK. 
          WE GONNA BID IT AGAIN. 
          WE, LET'S GET IT. 
          YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? SO I I THINK THERE NEEDS TO BE SOME KIND OF GAME PLAN. 
          WELL, RIGHT. 
          THE ONLY OTHER GAME PLAN WE HAVE IS FOR US TO TAKE AUTHORITY OF MAKE IT IP I GUESS. 
          UH, WELL IT'S A CAMERA. 
          YEAH. 
          THE ISSUE IS THEY'VE GOT THAT MONEY AND THEY ARE ASSESSING A FEE FOR IT AND THEY OUGHT USE THAT MONEY FOR, FOR THAT PURCHASE RATHER THAN TAX MONEY. 
          SO I THINK, I THINK THEY'D GIMME MY $1,600 BACK, ALL THAT. 
          BUT I MEAN THEY PROBABLY WOULD. 
          I DON'T KNOW. 
          AND I ASKED GEORGE AND, AND YOU KNOW, I CAME TO, I SAID, WELL WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE? AND YOU KNOW, I ASKED EVERYBODY, I SAID, WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE CAMERA? I SAID, WELL, ORTUNATELY KIND OF NONE. 
          UM, WELL WE, YOUR ANSWER I CENTRALIZED ON GEO VISION BECAUSE IT'S THE RECEIVER PART. 
          WELL, IT'S MORE THAN THAT. 
          IT IS MORE THAT, AND WE STANDARDIZED COUNTYWIDE. 
          SO ANYONE ANYWHERE WE WANT TO HAVE VIEW CAN, WE CAN HAVE IT BETWEEN THE DRUG CAR, WE CAN HAVE IT AT DISPATCH, WE CAN HAVE IT IN OUR LAB, WE CAN HAVE IT ANYWHERE. 
          AND SO WE CAN HAVE A WHAT THE PROBLEM IS. 
          THAT'S A GREAT IDEA. 
          WHO THE HELL'S GOT TIME TO SIT WITH THE CAMERAS ALREADY? NOT ME. 
          NOBODY. 
          SO BASICALLY WHAT WHAT IT EVOLVED INTO OR DE EVOLVED INTO WAS WAY TO GO BACK AND LOOK. 
          SO WE HAD THE SHOOTINGS AROUND HERE. 
          WE SPENT, WE HAD AIRPOINTS WORTH OF IMAGES TO PULL TO SEE WHERE ERIC WAS GOING. 
          ALSO, ALL AFTER THE FACT. 
          I, ONE'S GONNA SIT THERE AND LOOK AT 'EM. 
          IF YOU GO IN A NEW DISPATCH CENTER, YOU'LL SEE MONITORS UP THOSE CAMERAS. 
          BUT GUESS WHAT? THEY'RE, THEY'RE DOING THIS. 
          THEY'RE NOT LOOKING AT THAT. 
          BUT WHAT WE HAD WHEN WE FIRST INSTALLED IT WAS A PANIC BUTTON INTEGRATED WITH THE CAMERA. 
          SO WHEN THE, IF JUDGE 86 JUDGE HIT, HIT THE BUTTON STARTS, THAT CAMERA WOULD BE ON HIS BENCH WHERE HE HIT IT AND THEY WOULD SEE THE DISPATCH AND WE COULD GO BACK TO THAT. 
          IT'S JUST A, JUST TO GIVE AN IDEA, OTHER COUNTY WHAT THEY DO, SMITH COUNTY, THEY HAVE A POOL MONEY. 
          THEY BUDGET A POOL MONEY AND THEY SAY, GRAB A VENDOR AND SAY, OKAY, HERE'S THE HOURS. 
          GIMME, GIMME A PRICE FOR DOLLARS. 
          AND SO JUST SIT DOWN THERE. 
          THEY USE IT ALL. 
          USE IT. 
          HAVE, YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHAT THEY WANT FOR WE COULD, MAYBE WE COULD BID, FIND SOMEBODY THAT, YOU KNOW, WOULD BE OUR GUY. 
          MAYBE RE ALARM. 
          I DON'T KNOW. 
          WE GOT INTO TROUBLE WITH RE ALARM. 
          'CAUSE THE YEAR WE DID ALL THIS UP HERE, WE WENT WAY OVER THE AMOUNT OF MONEY WE WERE ABLE TO SPEND IN, IN ONE YEAR. 
          SO THE GUY SAID, WHOA, STOP. 
          WE'RE, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO BID THIS STUFF. 
          THAT'S WHY WHEN WE WENT OUT THE AIRPLANE, IT, WE NEED TO BRING THREE PEOPLE IN THE BANK BECAUSE WE WERE JUST STRATOSPHERIC IN THAT PARTICULAR YEAR. 
          YEAH. 
          JUST, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, I'M SORRY. 
          I'M SURE SOMEBODY HAS TO MAKE MONEY IN IT, BUT ONLY SEEM LIKE SOMEBODY MAKE TOO MUCH . 
          WELL YOU'RE RIGHT. 
          YOU KNOW WHAT, YOU CAN HAVE A GUY ON STAFF, YOU SEE CAMERA GUY, I SUPPOSE. 
          I KNOW WE COULD INVENTORY CAMERAS. 
          YOU STANDARDIZE ON GEO VISION. 
          YOU STANDARDIZE ON A CERTAIN TYPE OF IP CAMERA, THEY'RE ON THE SHELF. 
          SOMETHING GOES BAD. 
          YOU JUST, OKAY, GO CHANGE THE CAMERA. 
          GO CHANGE THE CAMERAS. 
          YEAH. 
          AND THAT'S WHAT I WAS TALKING TO BOBBY ABOUT. 
          YOU CAN BUY, WE CAN BUY THE SAME ONE COST GONNA BUY FOR THE SAME PRICE. 
          YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S NOT A BIG DEAL. 
          YOU BUY 'EM AND IT ALL, EVERYBODY WILL GET IT ON THEIR LAPTOP OR WHATEVER. 
          WHAT DO YOU NEED FROM US TODAY? WELL, I JUST THINK WHETHER IT BE A WORKSHOP OR WHETHER IT BE, UM, SOME MEETING OR SOMETHING, WE JUST NEED TO HAVE A GAME PLAN AND A REVENUES, YOU KNOW, FUNDS GO FORWARD. 
          YOU KNOW, THERE'S, THERE'S NOTHING IN HERE FOR IT. 
          YEAH. 
          AND I GUESS MY CURIOSITY IS, AND YOU KNOW, THEY HEARD ME TALK ABOUT IT BEFORE, BUT YOU KNOW, IF IT'S, IF IT'S 23 OR 
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$28,000 JUST FOR A LITTLE SUB COURTHOUSE FOR SOME COMPANY TO COME DO IT. 
          WOW. 
          YOU KNOW, THAT'S JUST, I DON'T KNOW. 
          IT'S JUST WAY OFF BOARD. 
          YEAH, WELL, OR WHAT IT COULD BE, I WOULD TALK TO YOUR COMPON AROUND, HEY, YOU'LL FIND THAT A GOOD QUALITY, HIGH RESOLUTION DIGITAL LITERARY VIDEO QUARTER IS NOT HERE. 
          YEAH. 
          THAT'S JUST WHAT THEY'RE GETTING. 
          YES. 
          I, YOU KNOW, I TALKED TO 'EM, I DON'T EVEN WEARING OFF ALL THAT, THAT BIG COMPANY DOES ALL THAT STUFF. 
          AND THEY SAID THE SAME THING. 
          THEY SAID, WELL, YOU KNOW, YOUR CAMERAS, YOU CAN BUY ALMOST THE HIGHEST DOLLAR, ONE OF THE, ALMOST THE CHEAPEST ONE. 
          AND THEY ALMOST DO IT AGAIN THROUGH THE SAME THING. 
          NOW HE SAID THEY ALL ALMOST HAVE THE SAME TECHNOLOGY. 
          THEY'RE GETTING THERE AND GETTING THERE AND THEN THE GAPS GETTING LIKE THIS. 
          BUT THE COST DIFFERENCE STILL LIKE THIS. 
          IF YOU LISTEN TO AN INSTALLER YEAH, WE GO TO AMAZON PRIME AND AGAIN YEAH, YEAH. 
          IT'S JUST CRAZY. 
          AND IT IS HARD FOR ME OR ANYBODY ELSE TO UNDERSTAND IT IF IT'S NOT IN THE FIELD. 
          I MEAN THEY, THEY JUST USE OUT A MINUTE. 
          BUT THE THING IS THOUGH, THE QUALITY AND THE ABILITY TO PROVIDE ACCESS TO THE USER, RIGHT. 
          THERE ARE CONSIDERATIONS. 
          YEAH. 
          AND IT DOES MAKE SENSE IN SOME CASES TO STANDARDIZE. 
          WELL, AS LONG AS YOU'RE RECORDING IT AND YOU CAN SEE IT, YOU CAN UNDERSTAND IT AND YOU CAN, AND IF IT'S GOOD, VISUALIZE IT. 
          I'M PRETTY HAPPY WITH IT. 
          IT'S KINDA LIKE TV. 
          YOU KNOW, YOU BUY TV AND THEY SAY, OH WELL THIS ONE'S A FOUR HX WHATEVER, AND I STILL GOT THE ONE FIVE YEARS AGO. 
          AND I LOOK AT BOTH OF 'EM SIDE TO SIDE. 
          I PROMISE YOU I CAN'T SEE THE DIFFERENCE. 
          AND THEY SAY, OH, DON'T YOU SEE IT? I NO . 
          I SEE, I SEE THE PICTURE. 
          YOU KNOW, IF YOU SEE THE PICTURE CLEAR AND YOU SEE IT GOOD, IT'S GOOD. 
          SO LISTEN, I'M BACK ON THE BUTT. 
          I HATE TO DIGRESS AND MAKE WASTE OF YOUR TIME HERE. 
          BUT LISTEN, SO WHAT I TRY TO DO IN YEARS PAST, PEOPLE LOOK AT MY BUDGET AND SAY, I INFRASTRUCTURE HUNDRED $45,000. 
          YOU GOTTA, SO WHAT I DID WAS I BROKE IT UP AND I TRIED TO CATEGORIZE IT TO MAKE IT MORE MEANINGFUL WHERE YOU WOULD SEE, UM, HOW IT'S BROKEN UP. 
          SO ONE THING WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF DOING THIS YEAR IS MIGRATING TO OFFICE MICROSOFT OFFICES. 
          UM, SO IN RED THERE ARE FOUR LINE ITEMS, WHICH REALLY ARE THE BULK OF WHAT'S IN THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT IS COMING. 
          THERE'S REALLY NOT A , ALTHOUGH THERE ARE STILL SOME THINGS, QUOTES AND THINGS COMING THAT WE MAY HAVE TO CHANGE AND MODIFY SOME OF THIS. 
          SO THE BIGGEST THING HERE, THE BARRACUDA PRODUCTS THAT, UM, ALL THE SERVERS WE HAVE ON SITE ARE BACKED UP TO A DEVICE ON THE PREMISES THAT HERE IN THE COUNTY, AND THEY'RE ALSO PUSHED TO A CLOUD LOCATION, YOU KNOW, SECURE BUNKERS ON PURE BUNKER, RIGHT? I BELIEVE. 
          BUT ANYWAY, SO THEY, THE BOTTOM LINE IS SHOULD IT BE A TORNADO OR SUB CATASTROPHIC? BELIEVE NOT IN COUNTY ELSE, BUT IT'S ALSO IN THE COUNTY BACK UP RIGHT. 
          AS WELL AS BEING ON SERVICE. 
          BUT IT HAS HIT MORE PLACES AT THE SAME TIME THAT RIGHT. 
          SO THAT BE MAIN IN HERE. 
          SO, BUT THERE'S A CONVERSATION, WE'LL HAVING LATER TODAY ABOUT SOME NEW THINGS HAPPENING IN THAT ARE IN THE WILD, BUT IN THE LAST SIX MONTHS THEY'RE THREATENING. 
          SO THAT'S SOMETHING YEAH, I'VE GOT THAT ON THE AGENDA FOR, UH, MONDAY. 
          MONDAY THAT Y'ALL NEED TO HEAR ABOUT. 
          PRE KIND OF SCARY WHEN I HEARD THAT IT IS NOT, MAYBE IT'S BEEN AROUND SINCE 2006, BUT IT'S MATURED IN THE LAST SIX MONTHS TO PLACE FOR S . 
          WHAT IT DOES IS IT BASICALLY ENCRYPTS ENCRYPTION REQUIRES AN ENCRYPTION KEY DEC ENCRYPT DATA. 
          AND THE ENCRYPTION KEY IS OVER MOSCOW GO, OKAY, SO I WANT 20, 20 200 MILLION, QUARTER MILLION DOLLARS IN BITCOIN. 
          AND THEY SAID, YOU SAID YOU QUARTER MILLION DOLLARS AND THEY DON'T ANYWAY, CALL RANSOM RANSOMWARE. 
          YEAH. 
          IT TAKES FAIRLY SOME NEARBY GOVERNMENTS GOVERNMENT. 
          AND SO, AND WE, I WE CAN GO AHEAD AND TALK ABOUT IT, I GUESS. 
          WELL, I'D LIKE TO, I'D LIKE TO, UH, I HAVE MORE INFORMATION. 
          WE'VE ACTUALLY, WERE WORKING THAT FOR SIX MONTHS. 
          WE'VE HAD A TOTAL OF FIVE AGAIN, ON A CLIENT FACING AND BIGGEST ISSUE IS THE WAY WE DO KNOW SINCE I, IN THIS BUSINESS, I HATE THE FACT THAT WE HAVE PEOPLE THAT ARE PERSONAL, BUT IT'S HARD TO TELL A DISTRICT JUDGE, YOU CAN'T USE YOUR AMERICA. 
          THE PROBLEM IS THIS STUFF. 
          THAT'S HOW IT GETS IN THE ACCOUNT. 
          THAT'S HOW IT GETS HERE. 
          UM, THERE ARE TWO WAYS. 
          THAT'S ONE WAY AND THE OTHER WAY IS A COMPROMISED WEBSITE. 
          I 
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THINK I'M GOING TO, UM, SOMEBODY'S FACEBOOK ACCOUNT. 
          I THINK I'M GOING TO, UH, AN ACCOUNT TO BUY SOMETHING AND IT CAN COMPROMISE WHEN I HIT THE LINK. 
          IT PUSHES OUT. 
          AN EXECUTE COMES IN. 
          YEAH. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND SO THE F-B-I-I-F WE PEOPLE IN THE FORENSIC BUSINESS, THE BEST SOLUTION IS A LAYERED, THERE'S NO SILVER BULLET IN THE SAME WAY YOU MAKE A SHOT OF A BATTLEFIELD, WE WE'LL GET, THERE'S A GOOD SHOT CHANCE YOU'RE GONNA GET HERE. 
          IT'S JUST THE WAY IT'S, SO THE BEST CRACKERS IS A LAYERED METHOD WHERE YOU CONTROL EVERYTHING COME UNDER YOUR NETWORK THROUGH DIFFERENT INTERNET CONNECTIONS. 
          SO HERE, FOR EXAMPLE, WE, WE HAVE FIREWALLS BY CISCO SYSTEMS. WE HAVE BARRA WEB FILTERS, WE HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE PAY THEM. 
          PLEASE EXEMPT ME FROM BARRACUDA BECAUSE I WANT TO DO THIS. 
          WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO CHANGE THAT CHANGING. 
          DO, WELL WE CAN TALK THAT. 
          AND WHAT BROUGHT THIS TO MIND, A MEETING LAST WEEK, COG AND THERE WAS A COUNTY GOVERNMENT IN THE METRO PLACE THAT, UH, WAS HIT RANSOMWARE AND THEY HAD TO PAY $20,000 IN BITCOIN. 
          AND I DUNNO ENOUGH ABOUT THAT TO DISCUSS, BUT IT'S VERY TRACEABLE BEFORE THEY COULD GET THEIR SYSTEM BACK UP. 
          THEN THERE WAS A CITY IN THE METROPLEX, LAST BIG SYSTEM, UH, THAT, I DUNNO HOW MUCH THEY HAD TO PAY. 
          I DUNNO WHAT YEAR FOUND OUT RICHARDSON. 
          YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          SO IT'S, I'VE ASKED GEORGE WHEN I GOT BACK FROM THAT MEETING COUNCIL, WE VULNERABLE, YOU KNOW, UH, THE ANSWER IS EVERYONE IS, THEY WERE WORKING ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE. 
          NOW, ONCE AI IS PART OF THAT RIGHT NOW, WHEN THEY HIT YOUR COUNTY AND THEY HIT YOUR BUSINESS, IT'S LIKE A MORTAR SHIP. 
          WE TRY TO GET, TRY TO DO WHEN ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE IS MARRIED WITH THAT TAC VECTOR, ACCURATE DEAD. 
          THAT'S ALL I'M TELLING. 
          IT MAY BE SOMEBODY IN CHINA OR MOSCOW OR WHATEVER. 
          WELL, THEY'RE PICKING ON PEOPLE THAT HAVE MONEY THOUGH. 
          THEY HAVE TO LOOK AT OUR FINANCIALS FIRST AND THEY SAY, NO, LET'S DON'T GET THEM. 
          WE'RE GONNA GO TO ANOTHER, WE DON'T HAVE NO MONEY. 
          YEAH, THEY WANT TO GO. 
          THEY EVEN SENT YOU, YOU DON'T DON GET IT BACK. 
          THAT IT'S, IT WAS RETURNED. 
          I MEAN, PEOPLE DON'T REALIZE THAT. 
          YOU SEE THAT THING THAT THEY DID. 
          UH, I, I DON'T REMEMBER WHICH NEWS SHOW IT WAS. 
          THEY WENT TO LAS VEGAS AND THAT WOMAN TOOK HER. 
          YEAH, I SAW STEPFATHER. 
          YEAH. 
          AND SHE WENT INTO THE THING, YOU KNOW, AND THEY SAID, UH, WELL JUST GO ON TO THE HOTEL, GO ONLINE ON THE HOTEL. 
          SHE, SHE SAID, OKAY. 
          SO SHE TOOK HER AND WENT ONLINE WITH THE HOTEL RIGHT THERE. 
          SHE TURNED ON THE WIFI AND THE MINUTE SHE SAID, HE SAID, OKAY, NOW LOOK AT YOUR EMAILS. 
          WHAT DO YOU MEAN LOOK AT YOUR EMAILS? THIS IS THE EMAILS THAT YOU JUST RECEIVED, DIDN'T IT? WELL, HOW'D YOU GET THAT? INSTANTLY AND IT THAT QUICK? 'CAUSE IT WASN'T A HOTEL WEBSITE. 
          HE JUST PUT A PHONY AIR WEBSITE UP. 
          AND OF COURSE THE MINUTE SHE HOOKS IN AND SHE THINKS SHE'S ON, WHICH IS EXACTLY AN EXPLOITED INTO A BUSINESS ACCOUNT. 
          AND, AND PEOPLE DON'T, PEOPLE JUST, YOU KNOW, THEY, THEY DON'T, THEY DON'T GET IT. 
          HOW QUICK. 
          SO WHAT WAS THE OTHER, THE OTHER THING, YOU KNOW, THEY HACKED HER PHONE. 
          YEAH, YEAH. 
          HACKED HER PHONE. 
          LIKE WHILE SHE'S SITTING THERE, THEY SAID, TURN YOUR PHONE ON. 
          AND THIS OTHER GUY OVER THERE WAS GOING AROUND. 
          HE SAYS, OKAY, HE HAD HER PHONE, EVERYTHING THAT WAS ON THE PHONE, LAY ON THE CHILDREN, EVERYTHING THAT WAS ON THE CLOTHING, EVERY NUMBER, EVERY SINGLE THING. 
          NOW HOW DO YOU DO THAT? BANKS AND FINANCIAL INSTITUTIONS? BIG. 
          WELL, I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW. 
          I DON'T, YOU KNOW, THE TECHNOLOGY IS WONDERFUL, BUT IT'S ALSO THE SCARIEST THING IN THE WORLD. 
          ANYWAY, JAR WILL HAVE MORE INFORMATION AND WE'RE GONNA DO THIS, THIS SECURITY MORE INFORMATION THAN SHARED TODAY. 
          BUT IT'S PROBABLY GONNA HEAR MORE ABOUT IT. 
          I ASSUME PROBABLY BECAUSE YOU KNOW, BACK TO THING HERE, YOU KNOW, I SEE A LOT OF RED THIS GOING UP OR DOWN LINE? THE BOTTOM LINE HERE. 
          YEAH. 
          WHERE IT SAYS 2017 BUDGET. 
          I, WHAT IS READ? WHAT I DO IS REQUEST A PRO FORMA INVOICE FROM THE VENDOR. 
          WHAT ARE YOU GONNA CHARGE ME NEXT YEAR? I PUT THAT. 
          SO YOU'RE GONNA, ARE YOU GOING DOWN $15,000 IN YEAR? YOU KNOW, RIGHT NOW, RIGHT NOW WE'RE DOWN 23, 8, 7. 
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UM, THAT MAY CHANGE WITH WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. 
          I'VE GOT MORE, BUT THAT'S KIND OF WHERE WE ARE NOW. 
          UM, WOULD LIKE TO GO LINE BY LINE. 
          BASICALLY  THESE ALREADY CONVINCED LINE, LINE, THE BOTTOM LINE'S, TWO BOTTOM LINES IS THAT, AND WELL, THAT'S WHY I SAID THAT'S ALL TWO. 
          ONE MORE ABOUT GEORGE, YOU DOING A GOOD JOB. 
          PERSONAL BUDGET. 
          I THINK. 
          GEORGE, BEFORE YOU LEAVE YOUR BUDGET, WILL YOU TALK ABOUT, UM, POSSIBLY TAKING ON THE MAINTENANCE AND SUPPORT FOR THE EAGLE CONTRACT? YEAH, THAT'D BE UP TO THE COURT. 
          SO EVERYTHING WE HAVE HERE, WE HAVE ALL THE RECURRENT, ALL THE UM, ANNUAL MAINTENANCE FOR PRODUCTS. 
          WE HAVE SOFTWARE, WE HAVE ALL, AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOUR PLEASURE IS, BUT BASICALLY ALL THIS COMES OUT OF FUND HEAD. 
          LIKE WE, WE TRIED TO DO SEVERAL YEARS AGO WAS TAKE EVERYTHING THAT IS REFRAME SOFTWARE MAINTENANCE, PUT IT WITH ONE BUCKET. 
          SO WE HAVE A GOOD IDEA HOW MUCH MONEY WAS SPENT YEARS AGO. 
          HE'S WORKING PUT SLUSH FUND AND THERE WAS ONE DEPARTMENT IN PARTICULAR WHERE WE WOULD'VE TO FIND THE MONEY EVERY YEAR BECAUSE SLUSH SO FAR AS LAURA'S BUDGET, I I, I KNOW SHE'S PAYING, I DON'T KNOW WHAT FUND IT COMES OUT, BUT I KNOW SHE'S PAYING THE RECURRING COSTS FOR THAT'S, SO IT'S CURRENTLY IN THE COUNTY PARKS. 
          YEAH. 
          SO I THINK IT'S 1 45, 42, 42 42 BE TRANSFERRED FROM THERE. 
          SO WASH ITSELF, I MEAN, WELL I GUESS THE QUESTION IS DO YOU WANT TO TAKE IT OUT OF THE TAXPAYERS FUND 10 OR DO YOU WANT TO CONTINUE TO TAKE OUT 42, WHICH IS FED BY REVENUE FROM WELL, I MEAN THAT'S ME. 
          I'D RATHER COME OUT OF THE FEE THAT IS PAID FOR THAT TAX. 
          I THINK HER ISSUE WAS SHE'S GOT MORE TO DO. 
          SHE'S GOT MORE RECORDS ARCHIVING TO DO BY A CERTAIN DEADLINE. 
          IS THAT WHAT WITH THE SUNSET PROVISION ON THAT FUND? YES. 
          YEAH. 
          SO APPARENTLY THIS MONEY CAN'T BE USED UNLESS IT'S USED FOR PRESERVATION AND AUTOMATION. 
          AND WE TALKED ABOUT THAT, THE SUNSET PROVISION IN SEPTEMBER OR UH, 2018, WHICH IS WHY WE TALKED ABOUT, YOU KNOW, IF ALL THE REOCCURRING COSTS ARE IN THIS BUDGET AND IT'S A TRUE ESTIMATE OF HOW MUCH OUR COMPUTER SYSTEMS COST, THEN IT WOULD BE A GOOD PLACE FOR IT TO BE. 
          HOW MUCH IS IT? A HUNDRED? HOW MUCH? NO, IT'S 50. 
          LIKE 50 1051. 
          THAT'S, I WOULD THINK SO THE TIME IT'S WHEN WE SAID THEY AT MAYBE TOUCHES ON THE BUDGET. 
          ANYTHING WE CAN TAKE OFF THE GENERAL FUND IS THAT MUCH BETTER OFF? POSSIBLY. 
          SO BECAUSE I'M WHAT WAS THE FUND BALANCE IN THAT FUND? 42 ESTIMATE TO BE LIKE 170. 
          OKAY. 
          IS EVERYBODY OKAY WITH THAT? WE CAN COME BACK. 
          REVISIT. 
          YEAH. 
          WHAT ELSE GEORGE? UM, LOOK AT THE OTHER PAGE. 
          WHAT I'M ASKING TO DO HERE IS BRING THESE PEOPLE TO THE SAME AMOUNT, THE SAME PACE. 
          SO AT THE BOTTOM HERE. 
          YES. 
          SO WHEN WE GET OUR SALARY SURVEYS NATIONALLY, WE'RE TRYING TO GET PAY UP TO ACTUALLY WELL BELOW THE LOCAL STANDARD FOR NETWORK ENGINEER. 
          I'VE GOT IT ALL HERE. 
          I MEAN I'VE GOT BASE MID EXPERIENCE AND WE ALL KNOW THAT'S WHY WE'RE EVEN DEPUTIES BECAUSE HELL, THEY CAN DRIVE, YOU KNOW, 11 O'CLOCK THE NEXT DAY. 
          SO WE'RE TRYING TO GET THEM, THEY'LL BE JUST UNDER GAGE NOW GAGE IS DOING THE ROLE OF THREE DIFFERENT PEOPLE. 
          SO HE'S DOING FLOOD PLANE. 
          HE'S DOINGS GREAT. 
          YEAH, SO HE'S MAKING, SO THIS WOULD PUT THEM JUST A LITTLE BIT UNDER WHERE HE'S OKAY. 
          BUT IT'LL 
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BE THE SAME BASE ACROSS THE BOARD. 
          THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF DIFFERENCE, YOU KNOW, WITH ONE OF 'EM BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, HAD BEEN HERE, SHE'S BEEN QUARTER OF A CENTURY SINCE SHE BEEN HERE. 
          SO HERS AT SOME POINT GOT OB SKEWED A LITTLE BIT. 
          SO WITH THE NET, THE NET DIFFERENCE, THE NET IMPACT ON A BUDGET WOULD BE SOME, OKAY. 
          WHAT WE'RE DOING ON ALL DIFFERENT REQUEST, JUST KIND OF HOLDING UP ON THEM NOW. 
          SO WE CAN SEE THERE WE'RE ON OUR TAX REVENUE AND THEN WE'LL COME BACK. 
          WE'VE HAD SEVERAL REQUESTS FOR THIS BASE PAY IS GONNA AFFECT LONGEVITY, SOCIAL SECURITY PLUS WE'VE GOT THIS WHOLE ISSUE OF UH, WELL WE TALKED ABOUT OBJECTION. 
          THERE'S WHAT IT MATTER. 
          HUH? THERE'S WHAT IT MATTER. 
          THEIR JOB RESPONSIBILITIES WOULD NOT ALLOW THEM TO DO THAT. 
          BUT I MEAN IF, BUT THE OLD ISSUES AFFECT THE, CORRECT. 
          YES. 
          SO THAT'S, WE'LL JUST COME BACK AND WHAT, OKAY, SO, BUT IF I NEED TO EXPLAIN THROUGH THE RATIONALE, I'VE GOT DOCUMENTATION DRAFT. 
          YEAH, I UNDERSTAND. 
          I THINK WHILE WE'RE DOING THIS TRYING TO TODAY TO COME UP WITH, YOU KNOW, THE VERY BASIC PART OF OUR BUDGET AND THEN IN THE NEXT FEW WEEKS WE'LL BE GETTING OUR VALUES, OUR HEALTH INSURANCE COSTS AND ALL THAT, THAT, THAT AFFECTS, UH, HEALTH INSURANCES THE BIG BIGGIE THAT WE REALLY DON'T HAVE A GOOD UNDERSTANDING OF, BUT WE SHOULD HAVE IN THE NEXT DAY OR TWO. 
          SO, OKAY. 
          ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR JOHN? YOU'LL NEED TO BUDGET MORE MONEY FOR GASOLINE. 
          CRUDE CLOSED ABOVE 50 TODAY. 
          THEY JUST CLOSED AGAIN. 
          BACK 50 BARRELS GOING. 
          WE CUT IT LAST YEAR. 
          SO BECAUSE WE'RE WAY OUT, WE W BE ABOUT 7 65 7 ABOUT GETTING MPI FOR THESE GUYS SKATEBOARD FALLING OFF OF THEM'S. 
          GOT YOU ONE OF THOSE OFF. 
          SMART CAR CAR. 
          ALSO, YOU'LL NOTICE ON OUR AREA, OUR AREA THERE. 
          SO WE HAVE A VEHICLE GAUGE USES TO DO, UM, ADDRESSING AND ALL THAT. 
          I THINK WE ACTUALLY CUT THAT A LITTLE BIT. 
          I DON'T KNOW HOW THE HELL HE DOES IT. 
          HE'S AUTOMATED PROCESS SO MUCH. 
          HE DOESN'T HAVE TO GET OUT QUITE AS OFTEN. 
          HE USES NO GAS. 
          NONE. 
          YEAH, I KNOW. 
          THAT'S CRAZY. 
          NONE. 
          SO WE, I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW. 
          HE JUST DOESN'T SPEND MONEY. 
          I MEAN WE JUST, WE ONE LITTLE VEHICLE, HE GETS THE JOB DRIVE ONE LITTLE, UH, HE DRIVES A LITTLE, WHAT DOES THAT GATE, YEAH, SO WE, I THINK WE CUT ABOUT TWO GRAND. 
          500 SPENT. 
          NO, THERE'LL BE MORE THAN LIKE A, WHAT IS THAT THING? I FORGOT. 
          WORD ESCAPE. 
          ESCAPE. 
          GEORGE. 
          GEORGE OVER DIDN'T CALL HER. 
          I DUNNO WHETHER I DIDN'T CALL HER TO COME EARLY. 
          OKAY. 
          I MEAN WAS SHE PLANNING ON COMING OR, YOU KNOW, SHE NEVER, SHE SENT HER FORM AND DIDN'T CANCEL IT. 
          WE TOLD 'EM TO LET US KNOW THEY WOULD NEED TO RESCHEDULE OR CANCEL. 
          SHE DID. 
          IT LOOKED LIKE HER 50 DOWN. 
          SHE WAS UP THERE I THINK RIGHT AFTER MARY AND HAD RESCHEDULED DOWN $50. 
          SHE, I THINK SHE A HUNDRED DOLLARS. 
          YES, WE OWED A HUNDRED DOLLARS. 
          SHE PROBABLY DIDN'T MEAN TO DO THAT. 
          KNOWING HER. 
          SHE PROBABLY THOUGHT THAT SHE WAS WASHING IT OUT. 
          THE NEXT, IF YOU WANT TO, YOU MIGHT LOOK AT THE, UH, NEXT RIGHT BEHIND HER BUDGET. 
          THAT'S THE TECH FUND WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT. 
          AND Y'ALL MAY WANT ON THAT A LITTLE BIT ON THE TECH FUND. 
          ALRIGHT, SO YOU'RE GONNA WRITE, GEORGE, YOU MAY WANT TO HEAR THIS TECH FUND DISCUSSION ON THE JP TECH FUND. 
          MM-HMM . 
          TAKE INTO ACCOUNT WHAT'S LISTED THERE AS JUST FOR JP TWO. 
          THERE'S SEVERAL LINE ITEMS, BUT IT'S FROM DA DIFFERENT JP. 
          THIS IS JUST JP TWO, CORRECT? YES. 
          OKAY. 
          UH, CURRENT FUND BALANCE AT THE END OF MAY WAS 218,000. 
          ALMOST 200,000. 
          AND ALL FOUR OF THE JP TECH FUNDS ONLY HIM ONE FUND. 
          I'M SHARING ONE FUND. 
          FUND ALL TOTAL, I MEAN ALL FOUR OF 'EM. 
          THAT'S 
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THE TOTAL OF ALL FOUR, CORRECT. 
           219,000. 
          THE ISSUE THAT GEORGE RUNS INTO WHEN HE STARTS TALKING ABOUT HOW TO SPEND IT, THEY CAN'T GHA ON. 
          IS THAT, IS THAT THE YEAH, I MEAN, WE JUST SECURED NO, THAT'S THEIR FUND SECURITY. 
          THE COURT THEIR FUND. 
          THAT'S NOT THEIR SECURITY'S THEIR FUND GOES UP. 
          WELL THEY WERE PAYING, WERE THEY NOT PAYING THEIR CELL PHONES AND ALL THE COMMUNICATION, THEY PAY IT OUT. 
          IT AND IT STILL, THEY BUY EQUIPMENT TOO. 
          YEAH, WE DIDN'T DO ANYTHING WITH THEIR PHONES OUT THERE BY THAT PERCENT. 
          I JUST WANT YOU TO HEAR THE BALANCE THERE. 
          IT CAN'T BE USED FOR ANYTHING. 
          ONE TIME WE WERE GOING TO TRY TO BUY SOME STUFF FOR THEIR, UH, CONSTABLES AND STUFF AND WE COULDN'T OR WHAT, WHAT WAS THE STORY ON THAT? THERE'S THE, THERE WAS AN AG OPINION THAT MIKE SMITH HAD ON SOME PART OF IT. 
          I DON'T REMEMBER IF IT WAS PART OF THAT ON THAT, YOU KNOW, WHENEVER THEY WERE GONNA DO THE RENOVATIONS OVER THERE AND THEY WERE DOING SOME COURTHOUSE SECURITY TYPE THINGS AS WELL. 
          I THINK THEY WERE TRYING TO USE THAT AND I DON'T THINK THEY COULD. 
          I THINK IT WAS, YEAH, WE, SORRY, DID YOU? BUT THERE WAS SOMETHING, THERE WAS SOMETHING ON THAT THAT THEY, THEY ENDED UP NOT BEING ABLE, THEY WANTED TO TRY TO BUY SOME STUFF AND I DON'T REMEMBER WHAT IT WAS. 
          I DON'T REMEMBER SPECIFICALLY, BUT IT'S VERY TECHNICAL OF WHAT THEY CAN WELL SOMETIMES THESE FUNDS GET SO TECHNICAL THEY CAN'T EVEN USE IT ALL. 
          LIKE THE LAW LIBRARY. 
          YEAH. 
          GOOD EXAMPLE. 
          YEAH, I MEAN THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S ALMOST WRONG. 
          SO I THINK THEY CAN BUY STUFF FOR THE JPS LIKE, UH, YOU KNOW, TABLETS OR . 
          OKAY. 
          IT RELATED PHONE CALL PERHAPS MAYBE THEY COULD START USING FOR THEIR EDUCATION OR SOMETHING. 
           WELL THEY EDUCATION. 
          I WANT TAKE A QUICK STAND UP BREAK AND THEN WE'LL COME BACK AND FALL. 
          ANGIE, CHANGE ACTUALLY SEPARATION. 
          THAT'S ACTUALLY WHAT BOBBY SENT BACK. 
          PIZZA BOXES. 
          ARE THEY ALL EMPTY? NO. 
          DAMN. 
          I HAVE ONE. 
          HUH? GUYS BRING AROUND. 
          I KNOW. 
          NO, YOU CATCH EIGHT. 
          I'VE BEEN WORKING ON IT TILL I'M JUST TIRED OF IT. 
          MY OFFICE. 
          AND THEY DON'T WANNA RESPOND WITH EMAILS BECAUSE THEY HATE, SO THEY'RE TEXTING ME LIKE STOP, STOP TEXT. 
          NEVER HAVE AN ARGUMENT OVER, OVER TEXT MESSAGE. 
          I GAVE THOSE EMAIL, ELECTRONIC FILE. 
          NO, I DON'T. 
          I PRINTED OF YOU YET. 
          FILE. 
          LOOK YOUR COMPUTER. 
          OH, I FOUND THEM. 
          WHAT DO YOU WANT? I WAS LIKE, DO 
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OUT THERE TURN. 
          THEY'RE ALWAYS TOGETHER. 
          THEY ARE ALWAYS. 
          I'M LIKE, Y'ALL DIDN'T NEED TWO VEHICLES, Y'ALL ANIMALS. 
          I TELL THEM THAT ALL THE TIME. 
          SEAN IS ALWAYS LIKE, BROKEN OR SOMETHING. 
          CAN'T YOU LIKE THAT? C HAVING TO BE CAREFUL. 
          SUGAR NEED NAP. 
          I DO. 
          WE SOMEWHERE NAP TIME IN THERE. 
          WE CAN MODIFY IF THIS IS SAID HE WAS HERE. 
          WATCH IT. 
          WHAT YOU JUST SAID. 
          I, I DON'T KNOW. 
          I WONDER WHICH ONE I'M IN. 
          SOMETIMES IT'S DEBATABLE. 
          SO THEY'RE CALLING YOU COME, I KNOW I DIDN'T ALL DAY, BUT 300 EMAILS 
          [01:36:10]
AND DANIEL CAME IN HOUR AND TALK. 
          SO I SAID GIMME A PEN. 
          I WAS LIKE, THAT'S RILEY. 
          AND AT MY CLEAR DAY, LIKE, AND SO THEN THE NEXT DAY HE SHOWED ME, I WAS LIKE, SAW THIS. 
          HE GOES, OH, LIKE WHAT? IT'S WEIRD. 
          IT'S WEIRD. 
          YEAH, IT'S CRAZY. 
          WE'RE GETTING CLOSE TO THE END, BUT WE GOT A COUPLE, TWO OR THREE OTHER THINGS ABOUT, I HAD RUN OFF OF THREE ITEMS I BELIEVE YOU HAVE ON, UH, WHAT'S CALLED THE GENERAL GOVERNMENT AND IT FUND. 
          THE TOTAL FUND IS HOW MUCH? W DOES IT HAVE A TOTAL? OH, I'M SORRY. 
          IT DOESN'T, BUT IT'S UH, ABOUT SIX 5 MILLION. 
          YEAH, IT'S A BIG FUND. 
          THAT'S WHERE WE PAID THE BIG ITEM OUT THERE IS THE HEALTH INSURANCE, I BELIEVE, ISN'T IT? YEAH. 
          SO, UH, THAT'S WHERE IT IS. 
          UH, THAT'S WHERE IT'S, WHERE IT'S MISSING. 
          BUT BEFORE WE GET INTO THE FIRST TWO PAGE, LET'S GET INTO THIS PAGE. 
          IT'S GOT THE YELLOW, UH, PRINT ON IT. 
          THIS IS THE UH, UH, WHERE PRIMARILY, UH, CAPITAL OUTLAY ITEMS. FOR EXAMPLE, THE FIRST ITEM THERE YOU SEE IS REPAIRS TO COUNTY PROPERTY. 
          UH, WE, YOU CAN SEE WHAT WE SPENT IN, UH, TWENTY FOURTEEN, A HUNDRED SEVENTY THREE, UH THOUSAND, TWENTY FIFTEEN, A HUNDRED SEVENTY 9,000. 
          WE ADOPTED A BUDGET FOR THIS YEAR OF A HUNDRED THOUSAND. 
          UH, ACTUALLY REVISED IT UP TO 15 1 5 44. 
          I DON'T, UH, THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT CARRIED OVER FROM LAST YEAR. 
          OKAY. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          WE'VE ACTUALLY SPENT THROUGH, UH, MAYBE YOU CAN GIVE US AN UPDATE ON, ON MARCH 31ST. 
          IT WAS 37TH THOUSAND. 
          I'M SURE WE'VE SPENT SOME SINCE THEN. 
          I TOOK SOME OF IT OFF. 
          I TOOK A ROOF OF IT AND, AND SO, BUT IT'S BEEN, IT WOULD'VE BEEN HIGHER FOR MAY. 
          IT WAS 51,000 THAT WE SPENT, WE SPENT 51,000 AND SO THAT'S A, THAT'S A, UH, THAT'S ABOUT A HUNDRED THOUSAND. 
          WE'VE BEEN SPENDING, STILL GOT SOME MONEY LEFT IN IT THIS YEAR. 
          BUT WE'VE GOT REPAIR WORK STILL GOING ON TOO. 
          THAT PAYS FOR MATERIAL REPAIR. 
          UH, YES, THIS IS, OR UNLESS WE HIRE SOMEBODY TO COME IN, YOU KNOW, LIKE DOESN'T IT IF WE HIRE SOMEBODY TO COME IN AND YEAH. 
          ALL OF EXCEPT HEATING AND AIR CONDITIONING. 
          AND THAT'S FOUR, THAT'S FOUR LINES DOWN. 
          THAT'S ITS OWN SEPARATE THAT, UH, WE'VE GOT SO 
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MANY BUILDINGS THAT NEED REPAIR. 
          YOU KNOW, WE GOT A BUNCH OF OLD BUILDINGS BASICALLY. 
          AND UH, THAT HAD VERY LITTLE MAINTENANCE DONE THROUGH THEM OVER THE YEARS. 
          SO WE'VE STUCK THAT TEMPORARY, WELL KIND OF A PLACEHOLDER IN THERE. 
          $200,000. 
          AND SOME BIG EXPENSES WE HAVE COMING UP IS NEXT YEAR CAN BE ROOF REPLACEMENT OVER THE JUVENILE PROBATION BUILDING. 
          AND I THINK STEVE TOOK CARE OF PAYING FOR THE REPLACEMENT OF THE ROOF ON THE SUB COURTHOUSE OUT AT PRECINCT TWO. 
          AND HE PAID FOR THAT TO GROW THE BRIDGE BUDGET. 
          AND SO THAT'S, THAT DIDN'T COME. 
          IT MAY HAVE COME OUT HERE BUT BEEN REIMBURSED FOR THIS YEAR, UH, PURCHASED THE PROPERTY. 
          WE DIDN'T BUDGET ANYTHING FOR THAT THIS YEAR BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE DIDN'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT WE WERE GOING TO BUY. 
          IF WE DO PURCHASE THESE LOTS THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT, YOU KNOW, ACROSS THE WAY HERE OR THE BUILDING NEXT DOOR, THAT'LL BE SOMETHING WE'LL HAVE TO MOVE MONEY INTO. 
          UH, WELL I THOUGHT LAST YEAR WE, WE SET ASIDE BUILDING NEXT DOOR, DIDN'T WE? AT THE END OF THE YEAR? I DON'T. 
          WE DISCUSSED WE YEAH. 
          TO DO IT. 
          I DON'T, IT'S FOR BALANCE. 
          I MEAN, WE CAN MOVE IT. 
          I MEAN IT CAN BE MOVED, BUT I DON'T REMEMBER END. 
          OKAY. 
          ANYWAY, IF WE DO PURCHASE SOMETHING, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO PAY FOR IT OUT OF FUND BALANCE. 
          AND SO, UH, OR IF WE OVER COLLECT ON TAXES THIS YEAR OR WHATEVER, YOU KNOW, I MEAN WE HAVE, UH, COURTHOUSE IMPROVEMENTS, UH, KW GIMME AN EXAMPLE OF SOME OF THAT. 
          THAT'S BAD MEMORY. 
          UM, ONE OF THE THINGS, A BIG THING THAT WE PAID WAS THE, THE ENDING OF THE CONSTRUCTION UP HERE FROM THAT INVOICE THAT NABC ARCHITECTS THAT WE SENT OVER TO YOU, JUDGE. 
          UM, OTHER THAN THAT, A LOT OF IT'S HOME DEPOT ACE HARDWARE. 
          SO IT'S JUST LITTLE, WHENEVER THE GUYS GO BUY SOMETHING THAT'S MAYBE USED COUNTYWIDE OR SOMETHING. 
          I THINK HE PUT SOME LIGHTS ON THERE TOO. 
          I THINK THERE WAS SOME LIGHTS, YOU KNOW, THERE'S ONE INVOICE FROM BRENDA SNE LOOKING THAT PLUMBING NET, UH, AIR CONDITIONING AND, UH, HEATING, UH, SEE WE SPEND 52 AND 14, 55 AND 15 BUDGETED AGAIN 55 THIS YEAR. 
          UH, NOW WE'VE HAD SOME BILLS THAT CAME IN LATE, UH, THIS YEAR THAT, UH, AS OF THE 15TH OF, I MEAN 31ST OF MARCH, WE'VE GROWN TO SPENT 15. 
          BUT I KNOW WE'VE SPENT, WE SPENT A LOT OF MONEY CATCHING THOSE BILLS UP. 
          A VENDOR THAT WE HAD DID NOT TURN IN BILLS. 
          YEAH. 
          IT WAS LIKE STUFF THAT WAS DONE ALL DURING, IN A YEAR. 
          ONE SECOND AT THE END OF MAY, WE HAD SPENT 42,000, 42,000. 
          THAT PROBABLY INCLUDES PAYING ALL THOSE BILLS THAT WE, SO WE SPENT 42,000, BUT YOU KNOW, NOW WE'VE GOT SUMMER COMING ON AND UH, SO THERE'S A CHANCE WE'LL HAVE SOME UNITS, UH, TENTATIVELY WE'VE INCREASED THAT TO 75,000. 
          UH, JUST, UH, IF WE HAVE SOME UNITS THAT, THAT GO OUT AND, UH, FOR EXAMPLE, IF WE DO BUY THIS BUILDING NEXT DOOR, WE'LL PROBABLY WIND UP HAVING TO REDO IT TOO. 
          BUT AGAIN, IT'S JUST, JUST AN ESTIMATE. 
          JOHN'S WE CAN'T GET THE FAMILY TO RESPOND. 
          NOW, SUB COURT HOUSE IMPROVEMENTS, UH, THAT'S WHEN WE GO TO ONE OF THE SUB COURT HOUSES AND UH, DO SOMETHING TO IT. 
          WE'VE ONLY SPENT, UH, AS UH, WELL I GIMME AN UPDATE ON IT IF YOU WOULD. 
          UH, 15, UH, 5,200, 5,200. 
          SO, AND A BIG PART OF THAT WAS THE TERRIBLE ALARM SYSTEM. 
          THAT WAS WRONG APRIL. 
          OKAY. 
          AND, AND THE COUNTY COMMUNICATION SYSTEM. 
          I'M NOT SURE I KNOW WHAT THAT IS. 
          UH, YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHAT, THAT'S WHAT I HAD A QUESTION I WAS LOOKING AT EARLIER. 
          UM, EVERY INVOICE, LEMME GET YOU A NAME, BUT IT'S APPROVED THROUGH IT. 
          EVERY SINGLE INVOICE I LOOKED IS APPROVED THROUGH IT. 
          I THOUGHT WOW. 
          FOR AND WHAT IS IT FOR? WE'RE PAYING FOR TRUE FOR COM. 
          PULLING THROUGH VOICE. 
          OH, IS, OH, THAT'S AT THE PHONE GUY. 
          WHAT'S HIS NAME? FROM WHAT? YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          ON MITEL, THE MITEL PHONE SYSTEM. 
          YEAH. 
          NO, WHAT'S THAT LITTLE NAME? 
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YEAH, JOHN JOHNNY WOOD. 
          JOHN. 
          YEAH, YEAH, YEAH. 
          IT'S UNDERSTANDING BE WOOD NOW. 
          YEAH, NO RELATION BY THE WAY. 
          IT'S COPPER WIRE EVERYTHING. 
          COPPER WIRE. 
          IT DOES ALL THE CONTROLS AND, UH, SWITCHES. 
          DOES ALL THE SWITCHES. 
          UM, THAT ONE HASN'T ACTUALLY ALREADY GONE OVER BUDGET THIS YEAR. 
          SO WHAT DID IT, UH, IT'S GONE OVER BUDGET THIS YEAR, ALREADY SPENT 37,000 AS OF WILL IN MAY. 
          SO, BUT THE QUESTION I HAD WAS, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S, I SAID SINGLE BOISE. 
          IT HAS GEORGE'S OR LORI'S SIGNATURE, UH, INITIAL ON IT. 
          SO I'M KIND OF WONDERING WHY IS, THE QUESTION IS WHY IS IT CAPITAL OUT BY NOT IN AN IT BUDGET? 23? I WOULD THINK THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING WE PROBABLY SHOULD MOVE TO IT. 
          WELL, WE'RE IN ON, ON THE PLATE ON, WELL, YEAH, , , WHAT DO YOU CALL THAT WHEN YOU DOING OVER? YOU TALKING ABOUT PHONE SYSTEM? YEAH, VOICE OVER IP. 
          YEAH, VOICE OVER I THAT'S WHAT I MEAN. 
          LAURA, WE WERE JUST TALKING. 
          THANK YOU. 
          COME ON. 
          YEAH. 
          UH, ON THE, UH, ON OUR CAPITAL OUTLAY BUDGET, THERE'S A LINE ITEM 5206 9 6 CALLED COUNTY COMMUNICATIONS SYSTEM. 
          OKAY. 
          AND MOST OF THAT IS PAID TO BLUE OR TRADE.COM MM-HMM . 
          THAT'S THE MITEL VENDOR. 
          OKAY. 
          WHAT KIND OF STUFF DO THEY PROVIDE? EVERYTHING. 
          IT, ALL OUR PHONE SYSTEMS COUNTYWIDE IS OKAY. 
          IS THAT, UH, NOW WE'RE MIGRATING AWAY FROM THAT, UH, ATTEMPTING TO OVERRIDE IP, EO IP OR SOMETHING. 
          THEY'RE TRYING TO GO TO IP PHONES INSTEAD OF THE COPPER LINES, LIKE WHAT WE, A LOT OF THE BUILDINGS HAVE. 
          SO THERE'LL BE ALL IP PHONES, WHICH SHOULD EVENTUALLY REDUCE THE, THE CELL PHONE, I MEAN THE ONLINE BILLS. 
          AND THAT'S WHAT WE'VE JUST GOT DONE OVER AT THE SUFFOLK COURT HOUSE IN TERRELL. 
          THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE WERE, YES. 
          OKAY. 
          YES. 
          AND SO DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER BUILDINGS THAT HAVE BEEN CHANGED OVER THE, UM, EOC? ALL OF THOSE ARE ID PHONES, RIGHT? BECAUSE THAT'S NEW CONSTRUCTION AND I BELIEVE THE WAY THEY'RE WORKING THAT IS, THAT'LL BE THE MAIN HUB AND THEN ALL THE REST OFFICES WILL COME OFF OF THAT USING ONE PHONE SWITCH. 
          AND SO LIKE THE, THIS BUILDING MAYBE THE COURTHOUSE RIGHT NOW IT'S ALL COPPER. 
          IT'S ALL COPPER. 
          WE HAVE A FEW IP PHONES, LIKE IN OFFICES WHERE THERE'S, WE DON'T HAVE A OPEN, UH, COPPER LINE. 
          OKAY. 
          WE'LL ADD IT TO THE NETWORK AND WHEN WE DO THAT, WE HAVE TO HAVE IP LICENSE FOR THAT PHONE. 
          SO, OKAY. 
          SO ARE WE, I GUESS I'M LEARNING, SO THIS IS GOOD DISCUSSION, BUT AT LEAST FOR ME, SO, UH, IS THIS SOMETHING WE'RE NOT DOING ANY FASTER THAN WE CAN, UH, BECAUSE OF FUNDING? OR ARE WE JUST UH, YEAH, IT COSTS QUITE A BIT TO SWITCH 'EM OVER BECAUSE EVERY PHONE SWITCHING, EVERY BUILDING RIGHT NOW IS THE, THE LEGACY, YOU KNOW, IT'S THE OLDER VERSION. 
          OKAY. 
          SO HOW WILL THIS SAVE US MONEY THEN IF WE IT'LL REDUCE YOUR, YOUR PHONE BILL BECAUSE YOU'LL GET RID OF ALL THE COPPER TELEPHONE LINES. 
          OKAY. 
          SO I GUESS THE QUESTION I WOULD'VE, RATHER THAN TRYING TO PIECEMEAL THIS, SHOULD THE COUNTY HAVE THE ABILITY TO INCREASE GOING TO THIS NEW VOYP? YEAH. 
          UH, WHAT KIND OF BUDGET FIGURE WOULD WE NEED TO HAVE? AND YOU PROBABLY, I DON'T THINK THAT'S IN THIS, IS IT? UH, IT SHOULDN'T BE IN THAT. 
          I KNOW GEORGE, IT IT'S IN A SEPARATE ONE. 
          YEAH. 
          WELL THIS IS CAPITAL OUTLAY, SO I YEAH, BUT THIS ONE IS JUST FOR SWITCHING AND COPPER WIRE. 
          OKAY. 
          THAT YEAH, THAT THE ONE THAT'S THE ORIGINAL ONE. 
          THIS IS, THAT'S THE, THAT'S ALL IT IS. 
          OKAY. 
          THAT THAT DOES, HE NEEDS TO REPAIR IT. 
          THAT'S WHAT HE'S DOING THAT DOES THEIR, THAT'S PRETTY GOOD CHUNK TO CHANGE. 
          HE DOES ALL THE, UH, MAINTENANCE FOR ALL THE BUILDINGS. 
          IF WE HAVE A SWITCH GO DOWN, WHICH WE HAD HIM GO DOWN, HE COMES IN AND BRINGS US A NEW ONES AND STUFF LIKE THAT AND SAID COUNTY BONDS. 
          IT DEPENDS ON WHICH ONE THAT YOU HAD THAT KIND OF YEAH, BECAUSE HE WASN'T WORKING ON THE COUNTY ONE. 
          NO, BECAUSE HE, WELL, I KNOW, I THOUGHT, I, I SAID WELL, YOU'RE IN CHARGE OF THE COPPER WIRES AND IT'S A COPPER WIRE. 
          SO IS THERE A, I DON'T KNOW. 
          CALENDAR TAKES CARE OF OUR, BECAUSE MY OFFICE IS IN MY CALENDAR. 
          YES, SIR. 
          YEAH. 
          SO, UH, 
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YES. 
          WHAT IS THE CALENDAR FOR GETTING THIS SWITCHED OVER? I THINK THE WAY THAT THEY WERE DOING THE, WE GOT THE EOC DONE AND THEN HE WAS GONNA, I THINK START WITH THE SMALLER OFFICES AND BECAUSE WE GOT TO CHANGE OUT, EVERY PHONE HAS TO BE A NEW PHONE. 
          SO I KNOW WE SUPPOSED TO NEW PHONES LAST YEAR, WE STILL HAVEN'T GOT THEM YET. 
          IT WAS RUNNING  C GETTING DONE. 
          OKAY. 
          YEAH. 
          JUST HADN'T GOT HERE YET. 
          THIS YEAR IS, I KNOW, BUT LAST YEAR'S NOT HERE YET. 
          NEXT YEAR. 
          WELL, I THINK WHAT WE, WHAT WOULD BE HELPFUL IF WE COULD KNOW KIND OF WHAT THE CALENDAR IS WHEN WE'RE GONNA BE SWITCHING OVER. 
          SO IF WE DO HAVE THE ABILITY TO INCREASE FUNDING FOR THIS, AND I DON'T KNOW LISA, IF THIS HAS TO GO THROUGH ANY KIND OF PURCHASING THING OR, I HONESTLY DON'T KNOW AT THIS POINT BECAUSE IT'S ALL BEEN TAKEN CARE OF AND I HAVEN'T SEEN ANY OF THE BILLS OR ANYTHING ON ANY OF THIS STUFF. 
          I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW. 
          UH, BUT IT CALLED, I THINK HE CALLED IN DIDN'T. 
          I THOUGHT YOU SAID THAT. 
          SHOULDN'T WE MOVE THAT LINE ITEM TO IT? WELL, YEAH, THAT'S THE THING WE WERE WONDERING WOULD BEEN BETTER IF THIS MOVE, IF WE MOVED THIS TO IT BECAUSE THEY SAID NOBODY'S SIGNING OFF. 
          WELL, GEORGE, GEORGE, I SIGNED MAYOR GEORGE. 
          I DON'T, IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT I DIDN'T DO, I GIVE IT TO GEORGE FOR HIM TO SIGN OFF ON. 
          THAT'S WHAT I MEAN SINCE IT IT TO YOUR LINE ITEM. 
          YEAH. 
          ALL OF THAT LINE ITEM COMES FROM, FROM THAT. 
          UH, HE CHANGED COMPANY'S NAMES, BUT IT'S ALL JOHNNY WOOD. 
          YEAH. 
          SOMETHING I JUST NOTICED WAS IN GEORGE'S BUDGET THAT HE PRESENTED FOR SIX NINE SEVEN. 
          HE HAS MY TELEPHONE ASSISTANT MAINTENANCE. 
          IS THAT NOT WHAT THAT IS? YOU SHOULDN'T LET GEORGE LEAVE. 
          SHOULDN'T I? WE WERE NOT PIZZA MAINTENANCE BECAUSE THAT WAS UNLESS THE NEW, DID HE HAVE IT? IS THAT THE SAME AMOUNT THAT'S ON THE ORIGINAL RED? THE RED NEW ITEM? YEAH, I BELIEVE IT IS. 
          YEAH. 
          HE GOT 19,000. 
          YEAH. 
          SO HE'S PUT IT OVER INTO THERE. 
          THAT'S WHAT, THAT'S WHAT I'M WONDERING. 
          BUT WE DIDN'T TAKE IT OFF HERE, BUT WE'VE ALREADY SPENT IT 30 EACH, 37, 7,000. 
          SO WE NEED TO CLEAR THAT UP. 
          OKAY. 
          IF WE CAN, BECAUSE IT DOES END HIS NEW IT BUDGET. 
          HE'S BUDGETED, UH, 19,000. 
          OKAY. 
          SO THE BUILDINGS HE'S ALREADY HAD DONE, MAYBE IT IS, MAYBE, MAYBE IT IS THE MOST. 
          I WENT BACK AND HIT YOU ON THAT LINE. 
          WENT BACK THE MOST HE EVER SPENT WAS 27 ON IT, WASN'T IT FOR OR PROBABLY BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T ADDED ANYTHING. 
          YEAH. 
          NEW WE, THAT WAS JUST MAINTAINING THE EQUIPMENT THAT WE HAD. 
          LIKE WHEN WE ADD A IP PHONE, RIGHT. 
          WE'LL SEE A, A ADDITIONAL LICENSE IF WE DO THE VOICEOVER IP PHONES WITH THAT PHONE, HAVE A LICENSE AND STUFF. 
          SO WHEN WE CHANGE OUT A, WE ADD PHONES WHERE THERE'S NOT ANY DATA OR COPPER LINE, WE HAVE TO GET A PHONE LICENSE. 
          SO YOU'LL SEE A LOT OF THOSE CHANGING. 
          THERE WILL BEEN CHANGED OUT. 
          CONTINUE TO BUY THE PHONE LICENSE? NO, ABOUT ONE TIME. 
          ONE TIME. 
          OKAY. 
          SO I THINK THE CONSENSUS IS WE'D LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND MOVE THIS ITEM TO IT. 
          YOU, WE'VE GOT  FOR NEXT YEAR, UH, 7,000 STARTING. 
          WELL, I THINK SO, BUT WE FIND, I'LL FIND OUT. 
          I'LL FIND, TAKE THE MONEY ALREADY OVER BUDGET. 
          10 GRAND GEORGE'S PROBLEM'S PROBLEM. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          I FIND OUT. 
          I'M WONDERING IF THIS YEAH, BECAUSE THIS INVOICE FOR 19,000 WAS UH, ANNUAL AGREEMENT, RIGHT? KEMP JAIL, SOUTH ANNEX, SOUTH CAMPUS. 
          ANNEX LIBRARY COURTHOUSE, UH, PRECINCT ONE COMMISSIONER, PROBATION, CAROL PRECINCT, THREE COURTHOUSE, PRECINCT THREE BARN AND BARNEY SUB CARDHOUSE. 
          SO IT COULD BE CODED WRONG. 
          YEAH. 
          THE FACT THAT HE PUT THAT 1900 PUT, THAT PROBABLY SHOULD GONE OVER IN THERE. 
          IT MIGHT THIS ONE. 
          SO I'LL NEED TO DOUBLE CHECK THAT. 
          OKAY. 
          THAT'S PROBABLY, THAT'S PROBABLY WHY I MISSED OVER. 
          ALRIGHT, THEN THE LAST ITEM ON THERE IS PURCHASE COUNTY VEHICLES. 
          AND UH, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN SEE WHAT WE DID IN 14 
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AND 15 AND I THINK WE DON'T OWE ANY DEBT ON COUNTY VEHICLES. 
          I THINK WE PAID THAT ALL OFF LAST YEAR FROM THE GENERAL. 
          YEAH. 
          AND SO WHAT WE'RE WAITING ON THIS YEAR DISCUSSION WE HAD YESTERDAY WITH UH, UH, BRIAN ABOUT THE, THAT NEW, UH, LEASE PURCHASE OR LEASE ASSISTANCE TO FIND, UH, FIND OUT WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO. 
          SO I'LL JUST LEAVE THAT LIKE IT IS TILL WE GET A LITTLE MORE INFORMATION. 
          DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT? UH, PARISH COUNTY PROPERTY. 
          I MEAN THE COURTHOUSE ITSELF IS GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE A ROOF PUT ON IT SOMETIME FAIRLY SOON. 
          REALLY? YEAH. 
          AND THE, I DON'T WHETHER YOU'VE NOTICED THE EXTERIOR COURTHOUSE, BUT, BUT THAT, THAT BUILDING IS THE BRICK ON IT IS BEGINNING TO, I MEAN IT NEEDS TO BE WASHED, WHATEVER THEY CALL THAT. 
          UH, YEAH, I MEAN IT, IT REALLY DOES NEED TO BE AND THEN IT NEEDS TO BE WATERPROOF. 
          NO CHANCE. 
          WELL, NOT YET. 
          IT BEGIN STRONG ENOUGH POWER. 
          SO, UH, BUT WE WANNA MAKE SURE WE GET THE, OF TEXAS HISTORIC COMMISSION. 
          WELL I GIVE YOU AN UPDATE ON TEXAS HISTORIC COMMISSION AS FAR AS WHAT I KNOW THEY'RE, UH, DOING ON THE UH, UH, VESTIBULE. 
          UH, WE HAVE TOLD THEM THAT WE ARE WAITING ON GETTING A UH, UH, AN ARCHITECT OR A MASTER PLANNER TO COME DOWN AND THAT SEEMS TO SATISFIED. 
          THAT PERSON IS NOT, UH, BEEN APPEARED, BUT IT'S THE PERSON THEY RECOMMENDED. 
          SO THEY THINK THEY WILL APPROVE WHAT THAT WILL DO THAT WILL BUY US SOME TIME. 
          YES. 
          WHAT IS WHAT? THE ORIGINAL ONE IS THE MAINTENANCE ON THE OLD SYSTEM. 
          THE OTHER ONE IS MIGRATING TO THE NEW SYSTEM AND HE'LL GIVE, TEACH YOU A TIME FRAME ON WHAT IT WOULD, WE COULD, YOU KNOW, GROW OUT EACH AREA. 
          OKAY. 
          AND IT DOES SAVE YOU ON YOUR ACTUAL PHONE. 
          THE ALL, BUT WE STILL CAN MOVE IT TO, OKAY. 
          YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          SO, UH, ANYWAY, UH, THAT WILL, ONCE THE COURT HIRES A MASTER PLANNER, UH, THAT WILL MASTER PLANNER WILL COME IN AND LOOK AT THE COURTHOUSE AND DETERMINE, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE CAN NEED TO DO ABOUT, YOU KNOW, AS FAR AS WHAT THEIR REQUIREMENT IS. 
          THE OTHER THING IT DOES, IT PUTS US IN LINE ON COURTHOUSE RENOVATION FUND THAT IS FUNDED BY THE STATE AND YOU'VE BEEN AROUND SOME OF THESE COURTHOUSES WHERE THEY GOT LIKE, THE CLOSEST ONE I KNOW OF IS COUNTY, COUNTY PUT IN SEVERAL MILLION AND THE STATE PUT IN SEVERAL MILLION TO THEIR COURTHOUSE. 
          SO, UH, BE FREE TO START WITH. 
          HUH? WELL HAVE TO HAVE SOMETHING TO WORK WITH. 
          YEAH. 
          SO, BUT THAT'S THE MAIN THING IT DOES ON THIS ONE IS THAT IT PUTS US ASIDE. 
          SO THEY HAVEN'T GIVEN US WHOEVER ASKED THAT QUESTION, WHICH YOU OR WHOEVER ASK OR ABOUT THAT. 
          UH, THEY, WELL, I MEAN, NO, IT'S A GOOD QUESTION. 
          THEY HAVEN'T SHUT A DOWN PUT PADLOCKS ON FRONT OF THE BUILDING. 
          WELL I DON'T THINK THEY APPROPRIATION REVIEW I THINK YEAR TOO. 
          SO, UH, SALARY FARM MUSEUM. 
          LET'S GO BACK TO THE TOP 4 0 9. 
          IS EVERYBODY OKAY WITH THE SHORT PAGE? WE LOOKED AT THIS ONE WAS WHERE THE BIG MONEY IS NOW. 
          UH, AS FAR AS UH, THE UH, COMMAND NUTRITION, UH, LIKE THE SALARY FARM MUSEUM, THAT, THAT POSITION, I DON'T THINK IT'S FILLED RIGHT NOW. 
          IT'S, YES, IT'S, CINDY WAS YESTERDAY. 
          I LOOKS LIKE CINDY. 
          OKAY. 
          SOCIAL SECURITY, THAT'S HER PORTION. 
          SOCIAL SECURITY. 
          THAT'S ACTUALLY HER PORTION IN THE UH, JAIL OR MONTH AGO. 
          THE HEALTH OFFICER, SINCE WE PUT THAT PAYROLL. 
          OKAY. 
          SINCE THEY HAD TO GO ON THERE. 
          OKAY. 
          AND THE EMPLOYEE INSURANCE, THAT'S THE BIG 
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NUMBER. 
          AND UH, YOU CAN SEE IT'S VARIED QUITE A BIT ACTUALLY. 
          UH UH IT WENT UP, WHAT LAST YEAR WE SPENT 2015, 3,000,003 SIX. 
          SO IT'S GONE UP ABOUT A HALF MILLION DOLLARS. 
          THAT'S PROPORTIONAL TO THE NUMBER OF EMPLOYEES WE HAVE AS WELL AS THE RATING RATE INCREASE. 
          A RATE INCREASE WAS SIGNIFICANTLY LOWER THAN YOU BEFORE. 
          BUT OF COURSE IT'S, I'M STILL TRYING TO GET THE NUMBERS. 
          WORKERS' COMP IS UH, WAS WE'RE BUDGETING 3 57, WHICH IS WHAT WE PAID THIS, I BELIEVE THAT COMES DUE IN UH, DECEMBER AND WE ALWAYS JUST BUDGET WHAT THE OWNER WAS. 
          SO WE'D NEVER KNOW. 
          LIKE PREVIOUS YEAR THREE 80 I BELIEVE OR 3 78. 
          SO WE'LL NEED TO ADD A LITTLE MORE IF ANY RAISES ARE GIVEN. 
          YEAH, IF YOU HAVE INCREASED SALARIES THAT RAISES, IS THERE SALARY SPREADSHEET SHOULD TAKE CARE OF? YEAH, WE DO LIKE UNEMPLOYMENT INSURANCE. 
          THAT'S WHERE WHEN WE LAY PEOPLE OFF, THIS IS THROUGH T LAURA, YOU WANT TO EXPLAIN HOW THAT WORKS? SO IT'S BASED OFF OF OUR PREVIOUS YEARS OF CLAIMS, NUMBER OF CLAIMS, COST OF CLAIMS, SEEING LIKE THAT IT'S DECREASED OVER THE YEARS. 
          WE'VE HAD A COUPLE OF BAD CLAIMS SO I DON'T IT INCREASES AT ALL. 
          I DON'T EXPECT IT. 
          ARE WE TALKING ABOUT WORKERS' COMP OR UNEMPLOYMENT? I GOT CONFUSED JUST NOW. 
          UNEMPLOYMENT. 
          DID YOU ASK ME ABOUT? OH, UNEMPLOYMENT. 
          YEAH, UNEMPLOYMENT WE PAY IS THAT SAME WAY BASED ON OUR NUMBER OF CLAIMS. UH, LAST YEAR WE HAD A REFUND CHECK OF LIKE SIX A LOT. 
          60,000 OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. 
          YEAH, 60 SOMETHING THOUSAND. 
          UM, BUT THEY HOLD, THEY HOLD MONEY IN A RESERVE BASED ON OUR PREVIOUS CLAIMS AND BECAUSE OUR CLAIMS HAVE DECREASED SIGNIFICANTLY ON THE LAST COUPLE YEARS, OUR RESERVES DOESN'T NEED TO BE AS HIGH AND THAT'S WHY WE RECEIVE THAT REFUND AND I FEEL STRONGLY THAT WE'LL GET UM, REFUND AGAIN. 
          SO I BUY EVERY ONE I CAN, I DO THE BEST I CAN ON THOSE PLACES. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          UH, CHARGES AND CHECKS. 
          THAT'S JUST AN ESTIMATE I GUESS WE NEVER KNOW. 
          SURE. 
          WHAT THAT'S GONNA BE. 
          UH, THE UH, OFFICE SUPPLIES WE'VE BEEN BUDGETING 130,000, UH, THAT'S MAYBE A LITTLE LOW. 
          UH, THE GUY WE SPENT 133 AND 14 AND 158 AND 15. 
          AND AS OF MAY 31ST, NOT MARCH 31ST WE SPENT NINE FIVE. 
          IS THAT YES. 
          JUST TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE ENOUGH. 
          SURE. 
          OKAY. 
          I THINK THAT'S A GOOD IDEA. 
          SO YOU'LL INCREASE THAT TO 150. 
          THE NEXT ONE, UH, THAT'S LORI'S CARRY OVER. 
          SO THAT'S GONNA CHANGE AS UH, DEPENDS ON HOW MUCH SHE SPENT BY THE END OF SEPTEMBER AND THEN WHAT CHECK IS FROM CAC THAT WE ADD TO IT. 
          SO WE'LL HAVE TO COME BACK AND ADJUST IT. 
          AND THAT'S OUR HEALTHY COUNTY MONEY. 
          UM, THEY'VE CHANGED, WE WON'T GET AS NEAR AS MUCH PLANS AS WE HAVE IN THE PAST. 
          THEY CHANGED THE WAY THEY CALCULATE. 
          UM, WE USUALLY GET $25 PER EMPLOYEE THAT COMPLETED THE PROGRAM FOR OUR HEALTH ASSESSMENT AND OUR SONIC GROUP CHALLENGES AND UM, ANYBODY THAT COMPLETED IT AND NOW THEY'VE CHANGED IT TO WHERE NOW IT'S BASED OFF OF A PERCENTAGE. 
          SO IT'S A PERCENTAGE OF HOW MANY EMPLOYEES WE HAVE PARTICIPATE IN. 
          OUR PERCENTAGE IS VERY LOW, SO WE'RE NOT GONNA GET NEAR AS MUCH MONEY FROM THAT ANYMORE. 
          OKAY. 
          HEALTH OFFICER, THAT'S WHAT WE PAY DR UH UH, LEGAL ADS. 
          THAT'S JUST WHATEVER THE ADVERTISE WE LEGALLY HAVE TO RUN. 
          AND THAT PRETTY WELL STAYS THE SAME YEAR IN YEAR OUT. 
          PROFESSIONAL SERVICES. 
          UH, I BELIEVE THAT'S WHERE WE, WHEN WE UH, ENGINEERING FIRM AND WHAT ELSE? A LOT OF THE SEA CREW STUFF WENT THROUGH THERE AT THE ADDITIONAL AUDIT THAT WE WENT THROUGH FOR THE, I THERE'S BEEN SO I'D LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT I'M NOT SURE WHY. 
          UM, THE REPORT THAT I RAN SHOWS THE 81,000. 
          WHAT'S ACTUALLY SHOWING IN SW WHAT ACTUALLY GOT COPIED OVER, WHICH IS THE 45,000 THIS YEAR IS KIND OF LIKE A, I MEAN THIS YEAR WE'VE HAD A LOT MORE PROFESSIONAL SERVICES ACTUALLY 45. 
          NO, NO, NO, NO. 
          WHAT I'M SAYING IS, UM, WHAT 
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ACTUALLY GOT TRANSFERRED OVER FOR THE BUDGET I STARTED IT WAS 45,000. 
          I'M NOT SURE WHY THIS, UM, RECENTLY WE DID A BUDGET AMENDMENT, WHAT WE CURRENTLY SPENT TO INCREASE TO ONE. 
          SO WE YES, WELL WE GO BACK IN 2014 WE SPENT 108 AND IN 2015 WE ONLY SPENT 30 AND WE BUDGETED 45. 
          SO THAT BIG LAWSUIT, MAYBE WE NEED TO INCREASE THAT TO MAYBE 75, 14 WAS BECAUSE OF LAWSUIT. 
          OH THE, THE LAWSUIT. 
          OKAY. 
          SO SOME OF THOSE KIND OF HARD YEAH, I GUESS LAWSUIT OR SOMETHING. 
          I WOULD THINK FOR BUDGET PURPOSES WE NOT GOOD ON THAT. 
          MAYBE BILL ON THAT. 
          AND THAT'S GONNA MAKE 75,000 WHAT PROFESSIONAL PROFESSIONAL THIS IS WHERE IF WE'RE GONNA HAVE THAT PROCESS GOING THROUGH LAURA'S OFFICE, I JUST WONDER IF WE SHOULD INCREASE THAT. 
          YOU KNOW, OUR SUBDIVISION, YOU KNOW, OFFICE PROFESSIONAL SERVICES SERVICES. 
          LAURA, DO YOU HAVE AN OPINION ON THAT? REBECCA HAD TALKED ABOUT HAVING A CONTINGENCY FUND FOR THE, THAT ENGINEERING COMPANY SO THAT WE COULD GO THROUGH SOME OF THEIR ACTION ITEMS THAT THEY HAD SUGGESTED AND THAT RIGHT NOW EVERYTHING, EVERY TIME ANY OF THE COMMISSIONERS WANTED TO USE THAT COMPANY OR CALL THEM, THEY HAD TO SUBMIT A REQUEST TO YOU AND THAT A LOT OF THE OTHER COUNTIES HAD A SMALL FUND OF MONEY THAT THEY COULD JUST USE AND MAKE SIMPLE QUESTION, YOU KNOW, SIMPLE CALLS FOR QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS. 
          YEAH. 
          WE CAN MAKE A SEPARATE LINE OUTSIDE OF, I DON'T THINK IT PAY FOR CRIMINAL OUTSIDE. 
          NO, OUR CIVIL PROFESSIONAL . 
          SO DO YOU THINK 75? YEAH, WE COME BACK AND PUT A CONTINGENCY LINE THE IRS FINES AND UH, PENALTIES FOR WE HAVE TO BE ONE BACK IN 2015 AND UH, AS OF UH, UH, 5 31 22 7 9 6, DOES THAT IN INCLUDE, IS THAT THE CONTROLLER? NO. 
          WAS NO, THAT WAS THE PENALTY THEY CHARGED FOR THIS YEAR. 
          I FOR THE 2013 ON. 
          OKAY. 
          DO WE NEED TO HOPEFULLY THROUGH THOSE? I DON'T HATE FOR A FINE WHATEVER DOES THAT THE OUTSIDE AUDIT HAS STAYED THE SAME, UH, SUGGEST WE LEAVE THAT LIKE IS HOSTAGE UH, LOOKS LIKE IT MIGHT BE ALRIGHT. 
          YEAH, THAT'S FIVE. 
          YEAH. 
          YOU KNOW, NOT BE MUCH. 
          MOST THE POLICIES WOULD COME FROM SITTING OUT TAX STATEMENTS. 
          WE HAVE A, A MONTHLY, EVERYBODY WANTS AUTOMATION EMAILS AND STUFF. 
          WELL IT LOOKS LIKE YOU COULD GET EMAIL ADDRESS TAX STATEMENTS FROM THE PEOPLE THAT I THE LAW. 
          NO, I KNOW. 
          I THINK SAME WAY WITH JURY NOTICE WE SEND A LOT OF JURY NOTICES TOO. 
          COURT. 
          OKAY. 
          WE MAKE A MONTHLY PAYMENT. 
          EMAILS A MONTHLY PAYMENT, NOT $800 TO THIS RESERVE ACCOUNT FOR 50. 
          I IMAGINE THAT HAS TO DO WITH THAT. 
          TALKING ABOUT, YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          WHAT IS THE NEXT PIECE? UH, UH, WHERE IT SAYS COMMISSIONER'S COURT, TRANSPORTATION, YOU GOT THE COUNTY JUDGE AND THEN EACH OF THE COMMISSIONERS A THOUSAND DOLLARS. 
          WHAT, WHAT IS THAT? THAT'S BEEN SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN IN THERE SINCE WE'VE BEEN HERE. 
          MARK. 
          THAT'S BEEN, THAT'S BEEN HERE SINCE WE'VE BEEN IN THERE. 
          Y'ALL KNOW ANY REASON TO CONTINUE? WE SETTLE HERE. 
          WELL WE CAN DRAW OUT OF IT IF WE GO SOMEWHERE. 
          WELL I MEAN THAT OR TRANSFER IT TO OUR UH, OUR TRAVEL AND 
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OUR REGULAR BUDGET THAT I CAN TAKE THAT 5,000 AND USE IT SOMEPLACE. 
          YEAH, THAT'S WHAT IT LOOKS. 
          I MEAN WE'RE NOT USING IT DOESN'T IT? IT'S A HARD WE EVER USE. 
          WE'LL FIND USE. 
          LET'S JUST ELIMINATE THAT. 
          AND THEN, UH, THOSE ITEMS, THAT'D BE THAT. 
          LISA COPIERS. 
          UH, LISA WHAT ARE WE, OR HAVE YOU BEEN DOING ANYTHING ON THAT ON COPIERS? UH, YES AND NO. 
          I'VE HAD A LOT OF VENDORS THAT HAVE BEEN COMING AROUND AND GIVING BIDS THAT THEY'VE NOT, NO ONE HAS SHOWN ME A SUBSTANTIAL COST SAVINGS AT ALL. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, UH, MOST OF 'EM ARE STILL, I'VE HAD XEROX, I'VE HAD CANON, I'VE HAD THAT, UH, WHAT IS IT? ANYWAY, ANOTHER ONE DOESN'T MATTER. 
          AND THEY'RE ALL ON EITHER LIKE TIPS BUYBOARD. 
          SO THE COST IS ALREADY SET BY THE CO-OP SO THAT THEY'RE JUST NOT REALLY ONLY THING THEY'RE ABLE TO SAY THAT THEY CAN SAVE IS MAYBE NOT REALLY SAVED PER SE, BUT GET BETTER. 
          UH, CUSTOMER SERVICE. 
          I'VE NOT FOUND ANY COST SAVINGS IN, SO WE BUDGETED 83 5 AND THAT'S ABOUT WHAT WE'VE BEEN SPENDING OVER THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS. 
          WOULD YOU ANTICIPATE THAT WOULD BE, IT SHOULD REMAIN ABOUT THE SAME. 
          WE HAVE A LOT OF COPIER SPREAD THAT ACROSS THE COUNTY. 
          MM-HMM  UH, THE ONLY THING THAT BOTHERED ME A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT IS WE HAVE DIFFERENT BRANDS AND UH, I MEAN WE DON'T, I JUST WONDER IF WE'D GET A BETTER DEAL WHAT BRAND ONE CARTRIDGE. 
          YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          SAYING YOUR LEASE OFFICES WHENEVER YOUR LEASE THAT, THAT ALL YOUR SUPPLIES. 
          WELL ON PAPER, NO, BUT ALL YOUR SUPPLIES ARE INCLUDED. 
          NOT FOR OUR INDIVIDUAL OFFICE PRINTERS BUT FOR, NO THE BIG COPIER, LIKE THE XEROX MACHINES. 
          OH, OKAY. 
          BUT NOW THE XEROX, I GUESS LIKE IN THE SEVEN CORN IT'S LEASE RIGHT? ONE LIKE IJ USES AND EVERYTHING. 
          YEAH. 
          THAT'S ALL WE PAID FOR OUTTA THAT IS OX. 
          YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          WE'LL JUST LEAVE IT LIKE IT IS I GUESS. 
          INSURANCE DEDUCTIBLE. 
          UH, WHAT'S, WHAT'S THAT? IS ANYBODY KNOW? I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT ONE IS. 
          SO IT'S JUST ALWAYS BEEN THERE. 
          WE, I DON'T USE THAT ONE CASE WE, WE NEED TO DO WE WE NEEDED IT. 
          NEVER YOUR DEDUCTIBLE BUT WE NEVER USED IT. 
          WE NEVER USED IT. 
          LET'S JUST TAKE THAT OUT. 
          I WAS GONNA THINK I DON'T EVEN WHAT YOU USE THE WAY THEY INSURANCE USING THEM. 
          I DUNNO. 
          WELL THE WAY THEY DO OUR DEDUCTIBLE, WE NEVER REALLY HAVE TO PAY IT. 
          THEY JUST TAKE IT OUT OF WHAT THEY'RE PAYING LESS. 
          RIGHT. 
          SO IF THEY'RE GONNA GIVE US A CHECK FOR $4,000, THEY TAKE OUR THOUSAND WE CHECK. 
          I GUESS WE COULD HAVE A LOTTERY AND WHO THE LOTTERY, IF THEY HAD TO GO TO THE HOSPITAL THEY WILL PAY THEIR $15 INSURANCE. 
          UH, PROPERTY AND GENERAL LIABILITY INSURANCE, UH, ALL THOSE ARE PROBABLY SUBJECT TO CHANGE. 
          YEAH, I DON'T, I DON'T REALLY KNOW WHY PROPERTY AND GENERAL LIABILITY ARE TOGETHER IN THE SAME ONE ITEM BECAUSE PROPERTY RENEWALS IN JULY AND GENERAL LIABILITY RENEWALS IN JANUARY. 
          SO I DON'T REALLY KNOW WHY LIABILITY TO GET. 
          AND THEN YOU HAVE AUTO AND PROB, I DON'T KNOW WHY YOU HAVE 'EM THE WAY THEY ARE, BUT IT MIGHT BE GOOD IF THEY TO BE SEPARATED JUST SO WE COULD SEE WHAT OUR GENERAL, I KNOW THIS YEAR OUR PROPERTY WE WENT OVER BUT THINK IT WAS OUR PROPERTY. 
          WE HAD TO MOVE STUFF AROUND FOR SOMETHING 'CAUSE WE DIDN'T BUDGET ENOUGH FOR A PROPERTY RENEWAL. 
          WE HAD TO MOVE ABOUT $19,000 OVER LET'S SEPARATE. 
          SO IF WE COULD ON THAT, LET'S SEPARATE, THERE'S NO NEED TO SEPARATE THAT. 
          THAT'S BEEN LIKE THAT FOR YEARS. 
          UNLESS Y'ALL JUST HAVE TO HAVE IT. 
          I'D LIKE FOR IT TO BE SEPARATED. 
          WOULD YOU LIKE FOR IT TO BE SEPARATED? YEAH. 
          GOOD TO SEE WHERE EXPENSES COMING FROM. 
          UM, JUST ONE MORE. 
          DOES ANY, OH, WE'RE GETTING RID OF LIKE SIX HOURS TRADE TRADING LINE. 
          DO WE GET ANY KIND OF QUOTE ON THAT OR ANY KIND OF ESTIMATE ON THAT RENEWAL TIME? YEAH, RENEWAL TIME SLIP ALL FREE TAX COURSE. 
          JUST A PROPERTY AND THE WAY WHAT PROPERTY WHEN PROPERTY INCREASES IS BASED ON OUR UM, PROPERTY VALUES. 
          SO WE DID THAT UM, APPRAISAL. 
          YEAH. 
          FOR YEARS AGO. 
          YEAH. 
          AND IT WENT UP, IT WAS LEFT. 
          SO I MEAN IT SHOULD NOW BE WITHIN THE KIND OF SAME BALL. 
          WELL YOU HAD TO GO, I MEAN THAT WITH THE FINE TOOTH BECAUSE IT WAS A LOT OF THINGS NOT YEAH, IT WAS A LOT. 
          THEY MISSED A COUPLE. 
          BUILDING THE AUTO INSURANCE LIABILITY. 
          THAT'S ACTUALLY I GUESS WHAT IT WAS THIS YEAR. 
          JANUARY 98, 9 6 6. 
          THAT IN JANUARY WE PROBABLY OUGHT TO GO TO EVEN HUNDRED THOUSAND ON THAT I THINK JUST BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO PROBABLY WIND UP WITH MORE VEHICLES. 
          LESS. 
          HUH? LESS. 
          IT HASN'T WORKED THAT WAY SO FAR. 
          LIFE INSURANCE, UH, LISA, WE BUDGETED 66,000. 
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THAT'S THE LIFE INSURANCE WE PROVIDE FOR THE EMPLOYEES, IS THAT CORRECT? YES. 
          YOU AND UH, LAUREN? YES. 
          OKAY. 
          WE SPENT 45,000. 
          IS THAT PAID MONTHLY OR QUARTERLY? YES, IT'S MONTHLY. 
          OKAY. 
          SO WE'RE PROBABLY ON BOARD WITH THAT. 
          PRETTY GOOD STATE. 
          MM-HMM . 
          UH, THE PUBLIC OFFICIALS, UH, INSURANCE AT RENEWS IN JANUARY THAT'S PAID. 
          WE PAID 75 9 33. 
          UH, IT'S ACTUALLY GONE DOWN A LITTLE BIT FROM WHERE IT WAS. 
          I GUESS THAT MAY BE, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT'S BASED ON BUT IT JUST BEEN CHANGING THEIR YEAH, PROBABLY, UH, PROBABLY ROUNDED UP TO UH, ABOUT 70. 
          IS THAT BASED ON, WHAT'S THAT BASED ON? DO WE KNOW? I DON'T, COULDN'T TELL YOU EXACTLY. 
          IT'S JUST ONE OF THOSE LINE COVERAGE IN OUR JANUARY RENEWALS. 
          YEAH. 
          I JUST WONDER IF IT'S BASED ON SALARIES OR IF IT'S BASED ON THE CLAIMS OR WE DO NOT. 
          I CAN FIND OUT BUT WENT DOWN. 
          WE DO NORMALLY GET AN ADDITIONAL PAYMENT AT THE END OF THE YEAR. 
          WE, I'M LOOKING AT THE LAST THREE YEARS WHEN WE HAVE TO PAY IN SEPTEMBER. 
          IN SEPTEMBER, YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          SO THAT, THAT AMOUNT THAT WE'VE PAID IS GONNA INCREASE. 
          OKAY. 
          SO, UH, LOOKED LIKE WE PAID 84,080 3015. 
          UH, MAYBE GO TO 95,000 FOR NEXT YEAR. 
          IS THAT ONE PAID QUARTERLY? IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S PAID SPORADICALLY. 
          UM, YEAH. 
          I DUNNO WHEN THAT ONE'S PAID OFF BECAUSE THERE'S SOME MONTHS, THERE'S NO EXPENSES. 
          LIKE LAST YEAR WE PAID ONE BIG EXPENSE IN DECEMBER. 
          I ONE BIG EXPENSE IN SEPTEMBER. 
          OTHER THAN THAT THERE WAS ONLY HUNDRED SEVEN AND THAT 1500 PAYMENT FOUR MONTHS. 
          THE SINGLE APPRAISAL DISTRICT, I DON'T BELIEVE THEY'VE SENT US WHAT OUR VALUE. 
          I MEAN I HAVEN'T GOTTEN, WE HAVEN'T GOT A BILL. 
          I DON'T THINK THEM SO THAT, AND THAT'S BASED ON THE UH, UH, ON THE VALUES THAT, THAT WE GET FROM THEM. 
          AND SINCE THEY HAVEN'T RELEASED THAT, SO WE'LL HAVE TO COME BACK AND REFIRE THAT. 
          WELL THEY SEND US UP TO THEM. 
          THAT'S ON THEIR BUDGET. 
          THEIR BUDGET IS THEIR BUDGET ISN'T IT? UH, THAT'S THEIR BUDGET. 
          THAT NO, THERE'S A MILLION. 
          YEAH, I DON'T WHAT THAT IS. 
          MAYBE THAT IS, MAYBE THAT IS A QUARTER BILL. 
          WE GOT HUNDRED 90 OR 191,000. 
          YEAH, THIS NEXT YEAR ON THAT. 
          I, I'M JUST TRYING TO REMEMBER. 
          LET'S LET'S LEAVE THAT LIKE THIS TILL WE CAN CHECK ON THAT. 
          WE GOT, WE WON. 
          THEY'VE ONLY BILLED US. 
          THAT'S, WE JUST GOTTA BILL TODAY. 
          I THINK THAT WE SUBMITTED TO Y'ALL FOR LIKE 99 SOMETHING THOUSAND JUST IN MARCH. 
          YEAH, WE PAY IT QUARTERLY. 
          JUDGE, WE GOTTA, THERE'S ONLY FOUR PAYMENTS MADE HERE. 
          WE SENT Y'ALL ONE LIKE MAYBE THE FIRST PART OF THIS WEEK OR SOMETHING. 
          OKAY, WE'LL LOOK AT IT AND SEE. 
          WE'LL COME BACK. 
          ADJUST THAT TO WHATEVER IT IT NEEDS TO BE. 
          IT ACTUALLY HAS GONE DOWN BECAUSE OF UH, SOME OF THE TAXING UNITS OR TAXING, YOU KNOW, THEY BRING IN MORE MONEY. 
          THE NUMBER ONE, UH, TAXING UNIT IN THE COUNTY IS THE NEY. 
          ISD WE USED TO BUT NOW FORNEY ISDS NO MORE. 
          SO I MEAN THAT, THAT ULTIMATELY REDUCES OUR COST. 
          SO, UH, COMMISSIONER COURT DO USE, THAT'S SOME MONIES WE PAY TO THE DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS WE BELONG TO. 
          COUNCILOR GOVERNMENTS. 
          THAT'S THE FEE THAT WE, UH, PAY THEM TO BE A MEMBER. 
          AND THE TEXAS ASSOCIATION COUNTIES, YOU'RE AWARE OF THAT. 
          NATIONAL ASSOCIATION COUNTIES AND  FUNDS. 
          WE NEED TO ZERO THAT OUT. 
          CAN WE GET INFORMATION OR SOMETHING THAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO THAT AGAIN? WHAT? IT'S JUST A PASS THROUGH BUT UH, UM, LAST YEAR WE DIDN'T BUDGET ANYTHING AT THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR BECAUSE WE, WE HADN'T RECEIVED ANY INFORMATION EXCEPT PAS A PASS THROUGH GRANT. 
          UM, SO UNLESS YOU RECEIVED IT OR WE HAVEN'T RECEIVED ANYTHING ABOUT IT. 
          I HAVEN'T BUT IT IS JUST A STRAIGHT IN AND OUT. 
          YES. 
          THAT'S THE YES. 
          YES SIR. 
          OKAY. 
          TR YOU WROTE IT OUT. 
          MAKE YOU SIT HERE AND ANDREW LET'S, WE'LL COME BACK TO THE SECOND PAGE OF THIS AND WE'LL MOVE INTO PATRICIA SO WE DON'T KEEP HER APPOINTED DUTIES. 
          THANK YOU FOR LISTING THIS FOR THE LAST LITTLE BIT. 
          DIDN'T. 
          NO, NOT YET. 
          I PRETTY, I TRIED BUT I, BECAUSE WE HAVE A NEW LEGISLATURE COMING IN JANUARY, RIGHT? MM-HMM . 
          SO THERE'LL BE A LEGISLATIVE UPDATE. 
          UH, SO I'LL KNOW THAT I'LL NEED TO GO TO THAT NEXT OFFICE. 
          SO I, I I USUALLY IT'S A FREE REGISTRATION BUT I DON'T, 
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DEPENDING ON WHERE IT'S AT. 
          MILEAGE MILL A MONTH. 
          SO I JUST ADDED A HUNDRED DOLLARS THERE AND THEN I TOOK OFF SOME IN OTHER PLACES THAT I TOOK AND, BUT JUST TO LET YOU KNOW, THE TRAINING EDUCATION CONFERENCE, THAT'S NOT AN UPDATED DEAL. 
          I THINK I HAVE LIKE $30 LEFT IN THAT NOW AFTER I TRIED HAS GONE TO SCHOOL. 
          OKAY. 
          THAT'S ON THE TRAINING EDUCATION CONFERENCES. 
          THEY'VE GONE UP ON THE REGISTRATION FEES AND EVERYTHING'S SO EXPENSIVE THAT DAY. 
          SO, BUT OTHER THAN THAT I TRY TO, AND ON MY EXTRA HELP I HAVE USED ABOUT UH, 65% OF THAT. 
          I THINK I HAVE 30 TO 32% LIVE KW DO YOU HAVE THAT UPDATED? I CAN GET IT REFLECTED? NO. 
          OKAY. 
          YOU KNOW, I HAD AN EMPLOYEE, UM, LEAVE AND SHE HADN'T BEEN THERE LONG ENOUGH TO BAIL UP ANY TIME. 
          SO THEREFORE SHE WASN'T GETTING A FULL PAYCHECK, YOU KNOW, SHOWED UP SINGLE THING AND STUFF. 
          SO I HAD PULL IN MY PART-TIME CLERK BECAUSE PICK UP WAS SLACK FOR HER TILL WE HIRED SOMEONE ELSE. 
          SO I ARRANGED FOR HER SALARY JUST INSTEAD OF COMING OUT PART-TIME HELP TO COME OUT OF A SALARY LINE BUDGET. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          SO WE'VE NOT GOT STRAIGHTENED OUT 'CAUSE I HIRED SOMEONE AT THE END OF JANUARY AND SHE'S, WE'RE NOW I THINK WE'RE, WE'RE GOOD TO GO. 
          WE PROBABLY HAVE A LITTLE SURPLUS LEFT IN THAT BUDGET. 
          YEAH, RIGHT NOW YOU'RE CORRECT. 
          THERE'S ABOUT 63% YEARS. 
          YEAH. 
          SO, YOU KNOW, BUT UH, SO YOU'RE PRETTY WELL AS A WASH. 
          I MEAN, SO YOU YES, IT'S, WE'RE NOT DOING 200 LEFT. 
          I DON'T KNOW. 
          YEAH. 
          WE'RE NOT SURE WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO IF ANYTHING YET ON SALARY. 
          YEAH. 
          WE'RE WAITING ON HEALTH INSURANCE INFORMATION AND UH, YOU KNOW, OUR PROPERTY BASE TO SEE WHERE WE ARE. 
          RIGHT. 
          ALL THAT. 
          LEMME ASK YOU ONE QUESTION, UH, AND THEN THE COMMISSIONER MAY HAVE A QUESTION. 
          UH, HOW IS, HOW ARE THE NEW TAX ATTORNEYS, NOT TAX ATTORNEYS, BUT THE FINES AND FEES ATTORNEYS OR YOU PLEASE HOW THAT'S GOING? WELL, I WAS LOOKING AT, I GOT THE, UH, OUR MONTHLY REPORT JUST WAIVED THE DAY BEFORE AND I NOTICED THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE DOWN A LITTLE BIT. 
          WE HAD THE BLUE GOOD, UH, MONTHS IN MARCH AND APRIL BECAUSE OF THE, UH, I GOT THE ALL HANGING FRUIT REALLY GOT ON, YOU KNOW, THEY GOT ON THE BALL AND THEY GOT, HAD A LOT OF, BUT IT'S FALLEN BACK DOWN TO ABOUT 30,000. 
          BUT THE MAIN PART OF THAT IS, UM, YOU CAN LOOK AT THE JUDGEMENTS AND EVERYTHING WHERE, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE CUTTING DEALS, YOU MAKING BIG BARGAINS AND AS THE DISTRICT ATTORNEYS WANNA DO THAT, YOU KNOW, TO GET THE CASELOAD DOWN. 
          BUT, UM, I'M LITTLE DISAPPOINTED IN THE CASES THAT ARE BEING FILED, NOT BEING FILED AND THE LICENSE AND WEIGHTS BECAUSE THOSE ARE SUPPOSED TO BE FILED AT EACH PRECINCT. 
          AND I UNDERSTAND THAT MRS. COURT DID, UM, YOU KNOW, HIRE A COUPLE NEW PEOPLE OR THREE AND TRAIN THEM AND THEY'RE OUT WORKING. 
          BUT THOSE LINES ARE NOT BEING, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF APPEALING UP THE COUNTY COURT AND WHAT THEY HAPPEN AFTER THAT. 
          I DUNNO. 
          SO, BECAUSE SOMEONE WITH A CDL HAS BASICALLY THREE CHOICES, THEY PAY IT, THEY APPEAL IT TO COUNTY COURT AND THEY HAVE A TRIAL BY JURY AND JUDGE. 
          SO YOU'RE SAYING YOU'RE NOT AND I'VE NOT HAD ONE TRIAL OKAY. 
          ON THE CDL LICENSE. 
          SO DOES THAT MEAN THEY'RE NOT WRITING THEM IN YOUR PRECINCT? I DON'T KNOW. 
          OKAY. 
          I DON'T KNOW. 
          I HAVEN'T CHECKED THE FILE. 
          THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THE JUDGE IS SUPPOSED TO DO. 
          I'M NOT SUPPOSED TO BE WRITING UP PEOPLE SAYING, UH, CASES IN MY COURT. 
          RIGHT, I UNDERSTAND. 
          UM, AND I JUST, YOU KNOW, I TAKE WHAT'S FILED IN MY COURT AND I WORK WITH COURT, BUT I JUST KNOW I'VE NOT HAD A LOT OF FINE MONEY, UH, COMING IN FROM THOSE CASES. 
          AND, AND WHAT CASES ARE THAT COME WITH, YOU KNOW, THEY'LL USUALLY ENTER NOT GUILTY, PUTTING IN, HAVE A PRETRIAL HEARING AND THEN SOMETIMES THERE'S A PRE BARGAIN. 
          BUT BASICALLY THERE WAS ONE, UH, WE HAD A NEW A DA COME IN AND SHE GAVE TO SAID YOU CAN'T GET TO, SO I HAD THE GUY WAS STILL THERE, THE WINDOW. 
          SO I HAD TO GO BACK IN. 
          CAN'T DO THAT. 
          SO, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT STATUS IS. 
          YOU'D HAVE TO TALK TO THE PEOPLE ON THOSE MARKETS. 
          OKAY. 
          AND, BUT I WAS HOPING THAT WE WOULD HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE REVENUE BECAUSE THE LORD KNOWS, I MEAN I DON'T HAVE AS MUCH HIGHWAY AS THE THREE AND FOUR HALF, THREE ST ONES, BUT WHAT I'M NOT GETTING, SO I DON'T KNOW. 
          IT ALL WORKS OUT. 
          IT ALL GOES TO THE SAME POT. 
          RIGHT, RIGHT. 
          IN UH, THE LAST YEAR OR SO, HAVE YOU SEEN ANY TICKETS COME THROUGH FROM THE, OUR COMMERCIAL VEHICLE COUNTY? THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT. 
          THAT'S THE ONE I'M TALKING. 
          YOU GOT ANY ON TRASH TRUCKS? ON TRASH TRUCKS? I WOULDN'T KNOW THAT. 
          NOT UNLESS CASE CAME BEFORE ME. 
          THEY CAN, THEY HAVE TO COME IN AND ENTER A PLEA OR SET IT. 
          IF THEY DON'T SHOW UP, WE SET A PLEA DOCKET AND 
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I MEAN THEY COME IN AND PAY THEIR FINE, THEY PAY THE COURT. 
          WELL YES, IF THEY'RE, I THINK THAT WAS THE UNDERSTANDING THAT EACH ONE OF THEM WOULD WORK 4%. 
          I THINK THAT'S WHAT THE LAW SAYS. 
          WELL I KNOW BUT THERE WAS A LITTLE, YOU KNOW, THERE WAS SOME, THERE WAS SOME KIND OF AGREEMENT YEARS AND YEARS AGO, YEARS BEFORE I CAME BACK, UM, IN 2010 THAT THEY WOULD FILE 'EM ALL IN ONE COURT. 
          I THINK IT WAS PRECINCT FOUR AT THE TIME I THINK. 
          BUT YOU HAVEN'T SEEN ANY CASES ON TRASH, ANY TICKETS ON THE TRASH? I DON'T, I, I WOULDN'T KNOW THAT. 
          YOU SEE, I WOULDN'T KNOW THAT 'CAUSE I'M NOT, IT'S NOT MY JOB TO GO IN THERE AND SAY WHO FILED A TICKET ON WHO? YOU SEE THE OFFICERS FILED THE TICKETS. 
          THEY ARE SET WITH THE PRE DOCKET. 
          I CAN'T LOOK AT WHO FILED WHAT WHEN. 
          I JUST HAVE TO LOOK AT THE CASES AS THEY COME IN. 
          SEE, WHEN THEY COME PRE DOCK, THEY COME AND PAY IT THEN IT, I WOULDN'T EVEN SEE IT. 
          BECAUSE YOU'LL SEE IF THEY SEE YEAH. 
          AND GO INTO THE CASE. 
          BUT I TELL YOU ONE THING I WAS HOPING Y'ALL ASK ABOUT THE INSURANCE OF THE DOCK. 
          WELL WE JUST GOING TO ASK YOU ABOUT . 
          IT'S PICKING UP. 
          IT REALLY IS. 
          I'VE HAD QUITE A FEW SINCE APRIL AND ACTUALLY I'VE BEEN ADVISED THAT THIS IS UM, THIS COURT GOES ALL YEAR ROUND AND SO I HAVE CASES IN JUNE COMING UP END IN JUNE. 
          NOW THERE'S NOT A LOT I CAN DO AS FAR AS YOU KNOW, THE THINGS I CAN DO AT SCHOOL. 
          BUT YOU KNOW, I'M TRYING TO GET THEM TO STILL FILE 'EM EARLY. 
          I CAN SEND 'EM TO SUMMER SCHOOL OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. 
          BUT THERE'S A FEW. 
          BUT YEAH, WE'RE, WE'RE GETTING MORE AND MORE. 
          WE'RE GETTING MORE AND MORE CASES SO, AND I EXPECT NEXT YEAR. 
          WE'LL YOU HAVE, I WAS JUST GONNA ASK, DO YOU KNOW IF THERE'S A SPECIFIC CASE BE RELATED TO THE, WHAT COMMISSIONER AL WAS ASKING ABOUT IF THERE'S A SPECIFIC CASE BE, COULD PROBABLY WANT REPORT TO TELL YOU EXACTLY HOW MUCH REVENUE HAS BEEN COLLECTED ON LICENSING WAGE. 
          CORRECT? WELL THERE SHOULD BE HAVE THAT. 
          I MEAN IT'S PUT IN THAT WAY. 
          RIGHT. 
          OKAY. 
          SO I MEAN YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO PULL A REPORT ON LICENSING, LIE LICENSE AND LIE BY THE OFFICER IF NOTHING ELSE ABOUT THEIR CITATION NUMBER. 
          I CAN GETTING A REPORT FOR YOU. 
          SEE HOW MUCH YOU CAN PULL THAT REPORT AND FIND OUT EVERYTHING IS FILED. 
          EVERYTHING GOES INTO THE ODYSSEY SYSTEM, DOES IT NOT? YEAH, HE HAS TO GO TO HIS MAIN COMPUTER BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE ODYSSEY. 
          IT ALL GOES SYSTEM. 
          IT'S YEAH, THERE'S THE WAY YOU CAN OKAY, BUT THE TRUANCY AND UH, IS GETTING BUSY. 
          JUST THAT. 
          DO YOU WANNA LEAVE THAT HUNDRED WITH COUNTY? DO WHAT YOU WANT. 
          LEAVE THAT HUNDRED WITH COUNTY. 
          YOU, YOU HAD AN EXTRA HUNDRED IN THERE. 
          YOU WELL REALLY WHERE AT . 
          I'LL KEEP, I TRIED TO CUT A LITTLE BIT JUST TO SATISFY. 
          WELL YOU DID A HUNDRED DOLLARS. 
          YOU DID? WELL I CUT 50 HERE AND 50 THERE. 
          THAT'S A HUNDRED AND I CUT HUNDRED THERE. 
          THAT'S 200 AND YOU ONLY ADDED A HUNDRED. 
          RIGHT. 
          SO I CUT IT. 
          WELL I DIDN'T KNOW, I THOUGHT MAYBE WANTED UP THAT LINES IN THE MILL FREE EDUCATIONAL BUDGET TOO. 
          THAT'S YOU. 
          SO I'M HOPING THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'LL WE'RE DOING GOOD OVER THERE SO EVERYBODY'S READY FOR MORE CASES. 
          SO WE'RE ALRIGHT. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          YOU.
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