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ANDREW, I THINK YOUR, UH, BUDGET IS, UH, EXACTLY THE SAME.YOU'RE NOT ASKING FOR ANY OR ANYTHING.
WE'RE NOT ASKING, UH, ANYTHING ADDITIONAL OVER LAST YEAR.
I HAVE NOT MET RECENTLY WITH MY OVERSIGHT BOARD SINCE LAST TIME WE ALL TOGETHER, BUT NOBODY, ANY DESIRE TO DO ANYTHING TYPICALLY I'M NOT ASKING FOR ANYTHING.
WE, UH, WE'RE GONNA COME IN A LITTLE BIT UNDER SALARY WISE BECAUSE WE HAD AN OPENING FOR SEVERAL MONTHS.
I BELIEVE THAT'S PROBABLY GONNA BE FILLED THE NEXT DAY OR TWO.
UH, GUY COMING UP FROM VICTORIA AND THEN THE OTHER STUFF THAT'S STILL SHOWING THE BALANCE.
WE DO ALL, ALMOST ALL OF OUR TRAINING AND TRAVEL COMES INTO ONE WHACK NEXT WEEK.
WE GO TO ANNUAL CONFERENCE FOR CRIMINAL DEFENSE LAWYERS DOWN IN SAN ANTONIO, SO THAT'LL SHOOT THE BETTER PART OF THAT UP.
THAT'S WHY THERE'S SO YOU'RE FULL STAFF NOW, OR YOU WILL BE WHEN WE, WE MAY BE BY FIVE O'CLOCK.
BRANDON'S IN THERE ON THE PHONE WITH HIM RIGHT NOW, SO.
HOW MANY, GIVE US A KIND OF A BREAKDOWN ON THE CASES THAT YOU'RE DOING.
WE'RE GONNA COME IN A LITTLE BIT.
IF THE TREND HOLDS, UH, OVER LAST YEAR, LOOK AT LAST QUARTER NUMBERS, UH, WE SHOULD HAVE A LITTLE OVER A THOUSAND INCOMING AND A LITTLE OVER 1200 DISPOSITIONS.
MAY IS PROBABLY GONNA BE A LITTLE BIT OFF 'CAUSE OF THE ROUND LOW TRIAL JUST SHUT DOWN THE COURT KINDA SHUT DOWN ONE OF THE COURTS, BUT THOSE WE'LL GET CAUGHT UP.
HOW MANY FELONY CASES ARE YOU DOING NOW? IT'S RUNNING ROUGHLY HALF AND HALF.
WOULD THAT PROPORTION WISE WOULD ACTUALLY LIKE TO HAVE A LITTLE MORE MISDEMEANORS COMPARATIVELY, BUT IT'S, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T GET TO PICK WHO THEY ARRESTS.
IT JUST KIND OF, SO AT ONE TIME YOU WERE NOT DOING ANY FELONY CASES, IS THAT CORRECT? OR HAVE YOU ALWAYS DONE WE WE'VE ALWAYS DONE FELONY CASES.
BUT YOU'RE, YOU'RE NOW ABOUT HALF OF THE 1200 CASES THAT YEAH, I MEAN IF, IF AGAIN, AND I'M JUST PROJECTING THIS OUT BASED ON THE NUMBERS SO FAR THIS YEAR, BUT THAT WOULD, YEAH, PUT US ABOUT HALF AND HALF, 500 SOME ODD IES, 500 SOME ODD MEAN JURY TRIAL.
JUDGE, YOUR OFFICE WIND UP ANNUAL, IT RANGES WE'RE GONNA BE UP THIS YEAR, BUT I KNOW YOU HAD ONE LAST ABOUT A WEEK I THINK.
YEAH, WE WERE, UH, I THINK YOU DRAW WEEK BEFORE LAST AND THEN WE HAVE ACTUALLY TWO SET ON THE SAME DAY MONDAY WEEK.
SO WE CAN FIGURE OUT WHICH ONE OF THOSE.
IT JUST, IT DEPENDS ON THE FACTS AND THE CLIENT AND THE PROSECUTOR, WHETHER OR NOT THEY ACTUALLY GO TO TRIAL.
WE HAVE A LOT OF CASES THAT, AND EVERYBODY DOES IT, BUT YOU SPEND A LOT OF TIME WORKING ON IT, GETTING READY FOR TRIAL AND THEN THEY PLEAD AND YEAH, THEN ONE SIDE OR THE OTHER SUDDENLY BECOMES MORE REASONABLE.
WHAT ABOUT, UH, THE, UH, WHEN ANNETTE, HOW IS SHE SENDING THE CASES NOW? THE IN DEFENSE COORDINATOR, ANNETTE, HOW IS, HOW IS THAT WORKING? YOU'RE GETTING ABOUT HALF THE CASES.
WE'RE GETTING A LITTLE OVER HALF.
I THINK ABOUT 60% IS WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT LAST TIME.
SO DO YOU KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THE WILL? HOW THE WILL IS AS FAR AS THE NUMBER OF DEFENSE ATTORNEYS THAT ARE AVAILABLE FOR THAT? I KNOW I'VE HAD SOME CONCERNS PRESSED BECAUSE THE JUDGES HAVE WHITTLED THEIR BILLS DOWN, BUT A LOT OF THE ATTORNEYS ARE, I SAY A LOT, SOME DON'T WANNA DO IT BECAUSE IT'S UH, NOT WORTH THEIR TIME.
I KNOW THERE'S SEVERAL WHO HAVE GOTTEN OFF.
I COULDN'T TELL YOU RIGHT NOW WHAT THE TOTAL NUMBER.
I'M SURE NICK COULD, BUT I'M THINKING 15.
SO, UH, YOU'RE HAVING ABOUT 1200 CASES, APPROXIMATELY ABOUT HALF AND HALF FELONY AND HALF, UH, UH, MISDEMEANORS.
SO ANYTHING ELSE YOU'D LIKE TO COMMISSIONERS HAVE QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE, QUESTIONS YOU'D ADD? NO, I MEAN, AS FAR AS THE CASE LOAD, LIKE I SAID, WE'RE GETTING A A PERCENTAGE, SO SOME OF THAT DEPENDS ON WHAT THE GROSS IS.
I MEAN, THERE MAY BE WEEKS WHERE THEY MIGHT SCORES AND SCORES AND ARREST AND SUBSEQUENTLY WE'RE GETTING A PORTION OF THAT AND THERE MAY BE A WEEK WHERE IT'S SLOW WHERE EVERYBODY BEHAVES OR WHATEVER IT IS.
SO NOT A FULL MOON, JUST YEAH, IT'S NOT A FULL MOON.
JUST, YEAH, I DIDN'T ANSWER DISPOSE OF A WEEK.
WE SEE OUR LOWERING FEES AND WE'RE DOING ABOUT 30 ATTORNEYS EVERY TWO WEEKS.
EVERY PAY PERIOD WE SEE 30 ATTORNEYS WITH BILLS.
SO HOW MANY CASES ARE YOU DOING? EVERY WELL AT 1200 WE'RE A LITTLE OVER A HUNDRED A MONTH.
SO IT 25 WEEK WE GOT A CUSTOMER 12 LAST YEAR WE MET, UH, YOU HAD AGREED TO TAKE ON MORE FELONY CASES.
AND I ASSUME THAT YOU'VE DONE THAT SINCE ABOUT HALF, DURING YOUR HALF
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THAT MANY WHEN WE MET OVER LAST YEAR, SO WE DONE MOSTLY MISDEMEANORS.AND I, AND I, SO NOW I HAD ASKED THAT FRANKLY, YOUR BILLS NORMALLY ON FELONY CASES ARE GOING TO BE A LITTLE BIT HIGHER, SO I THINK YOU'RE GETTING MORE VALUE FOR YOUR DOLLAR IF WE'RE WORKING ON A SUBSTANTIAL NUMBER OF FELONY CASES, BUT WE STILL HAVE THAT MISDEMEANOR POPULATION, WE MAYBE SOME GOOD NUMBERS, YOU KNOW, FOR US TO LOOK AT.
WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE NEXT? COUPLE JUST TYPE OF CASES YOU'RE DOING WHAT, WHAT THEY ALL LOOK LIKE JUST POSITIONS ABOUT MONTH OR ABOUT A MONTH? JUST, IT WAS ABOUT THE LAST SIX MONTHS.
LAST I CAN TELL YOU, I JUST LOOKED AT THE LAST QUARTER.
SO THERE WAS, THIS IS THROUGH MARCH 304 DISPOSITIONS AND 251 APPOINTMENTS FOR INCOMING DURING THAT 90 DAY.
AND THEN, YOU KNOW, IT EBBS AND FLOWS, BUT THAT'S ABOUT EVERYTHING.
OTHER QUESTION? KIND OF CURIOUS, HUH? WE RUN PRETTY GOOD BUDGET AND IF SOMEBODY ON THE, YOU KNOW, THE OVERSIGHT BOARD WANTS TO MAKE A CHANGE.
I MEAN, I, THERE'S SOMETHING WE'VE DISCUSSED.
I NOTHING I'VE ASKED FOR NOTHING ANYBODY'S SAID ANYTHING TO ME THAT THEY WANNA DO.
I MEAN, THE JUDGE TAKEN ON THE FEES AND THINGS LIKE THAT AND WE HAVE, SOME OF THE ATTORNEYS HAVE BEEN JACKING ABOUT LIKE TO DO WORK FOR ANYMORE.
SO WE'RE KIND OF CURIOUS HERE, WHAT PUT YOUR OWN WORKLOAD MAY A MORE THAN QUIT.
SO I JUST KIND OF KEEPING AN EYEBALL ON AND YOU BRING UP A GOOD POINT, COMMISSIONER.
IT'S KIND OF, YOU'RE ALWAYS JUDGING.
WE'RE ACTUALLY STILL OVER THE RECOMMENDED GUIDELINES FOR THE AMERICAN BAR ASSOCIATION.
UH, WE'RE NOT AS BAD AS WE WERE A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, BUT YOU KNOW, THAT'S, I I ACTUALLY YOU MEAN CASE LAW WISE? YEAH, I MEAN THEY, THEY, THEY PROMULGATED SOME STANDARDS SAYING HOW MANY FELONIES AND HOW MANY MISDEMEANORS A LAWYERS CAN HANDLE IN GIVEN YEAR.
I, WE'VE ALWAYS BEEN OVER THAT.
I FEEL LIKE WE CAN KIND OF ACCOMMODATE IT BECAUSE WE'VE GOT SOME SUPPORT STAFF, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT DOING EVERYTHING BY OURSELVES, BUT AT SOME POINT THERE'S AN EVENT HORIZON.
YOU CAN'T JUST INDEFINITELY LOAD THAT MANY MORE CASES OF A LAWYER.
I MEAN, WITHOUT ADDING SOMEBODY TO ACCOMMODATE THEM.
WELL, AND YOU WERE WITHOUT AN ATTORNEY FOR WHAT, THREE MONTHS, FOUR MONTHS.
SO, BUT NOW THAT'S HOPEFULLY GONNA, WE NOT KNOCK ON WOOD.
WE HOPE WHEN WE COME BACK, UH, FROM OUR CONFERENCE, WE'LL HAVE A GOT READY TO START FOR.
AND THEN WE COMING IN AT THAT, UH, TO FILL THAT MISDEMEANOR POSITION AT SEYMOUR LEVEL.
MATTHEW JUST DIDN'T, UH, HE WANTED TO GO MAKE THE BIG BUCKS.
HE WENT TO DALLAS COUNTY I THINK.
YEAH, AND HE, UH, YOU JUST, BUT, BUT PAY A LITTLE BIT MORE OVER THERE.
HE'S GOT MONEY WHIPPED BY THE DALLAS.
MATTHEW WAS THE LEAD ATTORNEY, IF YOU REMEMBER, ON THE ERIC WILLIAMS CASE.
AND HE CAME DOWN HERE TO LIKE KAMAN COUNTY.
WELL HE WORKED HERE BUT THEN I THINK WENT TO WORK IN, UH, DALLAS COUNTY.
WHAT'S THAT GUY'S NAME? I THINK HE WORKS FOR YOU AT, UH, HE WAS WORKING ON COMPLETING HIS EXAM.
THAT'S ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS WHY WE ARE GONNA BE A LITTLE BIT UNDER IS BECAUSE HE WAS KIND OF REALLY WORKING.
HE WAS SALARIED BUT BASICALLY PAID HIS PART-TIME HELP WHILE HE WAS GETTING READY.
HE SUBSEQUENTLY COME ON FULL TIME.
HE, YEAH, HE'S GOT, GOT AN ACTUAL LICENSE.
NO, I THINK HE, HE, HE MIGHT HANG AROUND FOR A LITTLE BIT.
SEEMED LIKE HE ENJOYS HIS JOB.
YEAH, HE UH, YOU KNOW WHAT MATTERS BUDGET WISE, I MET HIM.
HE WAS CLERKING, UH, FOR JUST
UH, PUT HIMSELF TO LAW SCHOOL A LITTLE BIT LATER IN LIFE, GOING TO NIGHT, I THINK DRIVE FOUR EVERY NIGHT, SIT TO CLASS FOR FOUR HOURS.
SO HE, HE DID A LITTLE HUSTLE TOO.
ALRIGHT, SERGEANT, COME ON UP.
UH, YOU GOT TO YOU JUST ABOUT TWO 50 AND SO THAT'S PRETTY, I'VE MET SOME OF THEM.
I'M A CALL COUNTY BOY AFTER 16 YEARS I FINALLY GOT BACK HOME.
I WAS A DEPUTY HERE FROM 90 YEARS, 2001.
WHERE YOU RUN? I WORKED FOR BOTH SHERIFFS.
UH, I'M, I'M NOT HERE ASKING FOR MORE MONEY.
WHAT I'M, MINE IS MORE OR LESS A QUESTION.
UH, IS THERE ANY WAY I CAN USE SOME OF THIS MONEY FOR ADDITIONAL
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TRAINING FOR I KNOW THE FIRST QUESTION'S GONNA BE ASKED OFF THE STATE TRAINING.BECAUSE THERE COMES A POINT IN TIME WHEN I'VE GOT CLASSES MAYBE IN ROCKFALL WITH A HUNDRED DOLLARS TO SEND A GUY.
FOR EXAMPLE, I'VE GOT A, UH, A DESERT SNOW CLASS COMING UP.
DESERT SNOW IS INTERDICTION, WHICH IN RETURN WE SEIZE CARS, WE SEIZE MONEY, WE PUT PEOPLE IN JAIL FOR, UH, DRUGS COMING THROUGH HERE.
DAY THEY 12 THROUGH THE STATION.
SO WITH THAT SAID, I GUESS LIKE I SAID, STATION OUT ON AN INTERSTATE POINT.
OH, HOW, BY THE WAY, NOW DO Y'ALL OPERATE THERE? WELL, THAT, THAT'S C, BE.
THEY KINDA OPERATE, THEY THEIR POWER THAT BE TELL US WHEN THE TRIP, THE LIGHTS ON WE SCORE SYSTEM.
BUT MORE OR LESS, I'M JUST ASKING.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT I'VE EVER BEEN BUYING WHEN IT'S OPEN.
ACTUALLY IT WAS, IT IS OPEN FOR YOU YESTERDAY.
OKAY, WELL I DON'T YOUR ROCK 80, WHICH 80 WILL GET INUNDATED BECAUSE LOT OF TRUCKS IS THE ONES YOU'RE LOOKING FOR AND THEY'RE GONNA JUMP OVER TO 80.
RUN DOWN EIGHT IS WHAT THEY'RE DOING.
BUT YOU KNOW, LICENSE WEIGHT TICKETS ARE HEAVY, HEAVY, HEAVY.
THEY TRY CIRCUMVENT THAT AND GET SOMEWHERE OTHER THAN HIGH 20.
WHAT ABOUT, UH, UH, UH, TRASH TRUCKS? YOU SEE ME, THEY 20, THEY, THEY'RE GONNA STAY AND MOST THEY COUNTY ROAD, THEY STAY UP.
WELL, WE JUST HAD THAT DISCUSSION SUPPLY.
THEY, THEY CAUSED MILLION, MILLION, MILLION DAMAGE.
I LIVE ON 40 16, WHICH IS IN YOUR PRECINCT.
BUT THAT TWO TON, THREE TON TRASH TRUCK KEEPS COMING DOWN.
WE DON'T NO, I'M OUT WITH TRUCK.
THEY, THEY'LL, WELL HE'S OLDER ONE HAS THEM.
THEY'RE SERGEANT
THEY'RE SERGEANT, THEY'RE STATIONED IN CAMAN COUNTY, BUT THEY'RE SERGEANT TYLER.
DIFFERENT, DIFFERENT UH, DIFFERENT DISTRICTS AND REGIONS FOR THOSE GUYS.
SO YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHERE THEY GO, WHAT THEY DO.
HOW BIG A AREA DO THEY COVER? UH, THEY'RE GONNA HAVE PROBABLY SEVEN COUNTIES.
DOES EACH COUNTY HAVE SOME STATIONS IN? YES.
THEY'RE NOT ALL NO STATIONS IN WHICH, YOU KNOW, THOSE ONES MAY HAVE TO COVER VANDA AND KAUFMAN COUNTY.
SO DO THEY DO DALLAS COUNTY? NO.
WASTE PEOPLE HERE ASSIGNED TO PROBABLY COMAN AND VAN VANT.
WELL, YOU MEET WITH SILVER THERE.
THE THE ISSUE IS, IS THAT WE, ON SOME OF OUR COUNTY ROADS, IF YOU LIVE ON THE COUNTY ROAD, WE HAVE UH, WE MAY HAVE FOUR OR FIVE UH, UH, TRASH CONTRACTORS THAT GO UP AND DOWN THAT ROAD, YOU KNOW, EVERY WEEK.
AND THAT'S, SO I THINK WE'VE TRIED TO SEE IF WE COULD LIMIT THAT, DIDN'T WE? OH, THEY'D BE MORE GLAD TO HAVE YOU.
BECAUSE LIKE I SAY, THEN THEY DON'T, THEY DON'T CARE IF I'M TEARING THE ROADS UP.
THEN YOU GET THEM, THEM, YOU KNOW, THEM WEIGHT VIOLATIONS.
WELL, WE KIND OF TRIED ELIMINATE IT BY SEEING IF WE COULD ISSUE A CONTRACT, KIND OF LIKE CITIES DO AND SAY ONLY ONE COMPANY CAN COME IN THERE AND THEN LIKE YOUR ROAD INSTEAD OF THREE DIFFERENT COMPANIES COMING DOWN.
YOUR NEIGHBOR HAS A DIFFERENT COMPANY THAN YOU DO AT LEAST THIS ONE TRUCK.
MATTER OF FACT, THAT DOES HAPPEN.
I'VE GOT NEIGHBORS, THE GUY ACROSS HAS GOT OUT.
SO THERE YOU HAVE THREE DIFFERENT COMPANIES COMING DOWN AND ALLY'S THE ONE BRINGING THAT BIG TRUCK IN AND OUT.
YEAH, BECAUSE IT GOT A DUMPSTER OVER THERE THAT BIG TRUCK'S COMING IN THERE AND EVERY TIME HE MAKES A TURN IN THAT DRIVEWAY THERE.
WELL, IF YOU SEEN YOUR GUYS MENTION TRASH, NO, WE'LL OUT TRASH TRUCKS.
YOU, I MEAN I CAN, I CAN HELP THAT BECAUSE I MEAN WE CAN, IF THAT COUNTY ROAD'S GOT A BRICK, WHICH I DON'T THINK MIGHT HAVE A LOAD LIMIT ON THE BRIDGE, SO, BUT I MEAN THEY GO GET STATE VIOLATIONS.
THEY CAN, THEY CAN MAKE IT HANG ON THEM.
I MEAN THEY, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THEM MAY NOT VIOLATIONS ON, YOU KNOW, FEDERAL.
SO IT'S, IT'S BEEN A TOPIC AROUND HERE.
OF COURSE THE COUNTY HAS TWO LICENSE OR COMMERCIAL VEHICLE OFFICERS AND I, WHETHER YOU AWARE OF THAT, IF YOU WORK WITH THEM OR WHITE GUYS NOT, BUT, UH, BUT I DO HAVE TWO THAT ARE LEVEL TWO INSPECTOR.
WHAT THEY CAN DO, THEY GO UP TO A LEVEL TWO, WHICH IS THEY CAN INSPECT LOG BOOKS.
UH, SOME OF THE FRED, THE, THE ONLY THING THEY CAN'T DO IS WEAPONS.
THEY CAN'T CHECK RECORDS YEARS AGO THAT DIDN'T I AND, AND I DIDN'T KNOW
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THAT ALL OF THEM COULDN'T DO EVERYTHING WHEN THEY WALK UP A TRUCK.EVEN ME, I CANNOT WALK UP UNLESS I'M LEVEL TWO FEDERALLY CERTIFIED.
AND REQUEST A LAW EQUIPMENT FROM THE JOB.
I'M THINKING THE LAW'S A LAW LOOKS LIKE ME.
IF YOU WEAR A BADGE, Y'ALL BE ON ENFORCE, BUT, AND STAFF.
I KNOW, BUT I'VE GOT, I'VE GOT TWO THAT ARE LEVEL TWO ON MY SIDE.
THERE'S TWO SERGEANT AREAS IN TERRY.
AND I CAN ASK HIM TO START, YOU KNOW, GOING, ENFORCING THE LAW ON THOSE RECOLLECTION.
I DON'T THINK IT HURT ANY OF OUR FEELINGS.
AND I'M TRYING TO SEND TWO MORE TO GET, 'CAUSE TWOS ON THE OTHER SIDE.
AND IF I GET TWO MORE, TWO MORE.
WE HAVE SIX ONLY AS YOU NEED THE INDICATION.
IS THAT WHAT YOUR STATE DOES? YEAH.
SO STATE DOES, THAT'S SO YOUR REQUEST, I MEAN YOUR BUDGET, YOU'RE OKAY, TELL US ABOUT THE TWO SECRETARIES THAT WE FURNISHED.
THAT'S WHAT I, WE NEED TO COULD NOT MAKE IT WITHOUT THEM.
WHAT DO THEY DO? JUST SO THEY DO EVERYTHING FROM INPUT, UH, GET CASES READY TO GO TO THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY, UH, MAKE COPIES OF THAT, GET THE VIDEO RECORDED.
UH, THEY TAKE CARE OF ANYTHING THAT I REQUEST.
LIKE THEY WERE, UH, THEY INPUT INFORMATION FOR ME ON THIS OST.
THEY KEEP ALL THAT LINE FOR ME.
UH, ANYTHING THAT DEALS WITH HIGHWAY PATROL, WE, WE HAVE TO SEND TO THE COUNTY.
UH, I DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT, I MEAN FUNNY AS IT MAY BE PAPER IZING, THE TOILET PAPER FOR THE RESTROOM.
YOU KNOW, AS FAR AS ORDERING THAT, KEEPING THAT UP ON STUFF THAT THEY TAKE CARE OF THEIR WONDERFUL LADIES.
WE, WE COULD NOT MAKE IT WITHOUT THEM.
OKAY, SO YOUR REQUEST IS THAT WE STARTED BEFORE WE GOT OFF ON TRASH TRUCKS.
AND THE COMMERCIAL VEHICLE, YOUR REQUEST IS, IS THAT YOU NEED MORE MONEY FOR TRAINING, UH, BECAUSE THE STATE DOESN'T GIVE YOU ANYTHING? WELL THEY GIVE IT, IT IS JUST, UH, LIKE I SAY JUDGE, MAYBE I'VE GOT A SCHOOL THAT'S COMING UP ON NEXT WEEK THAT I JUST LEARNED ABOUT SAYING ROCKWELL COUNTY FOR DWI UH, CASE REPORT, RIGHT? MM-HMM
OR, YOU KNOW, INTERVIEW TECHNIQUES WITH A HUNDRED.
WELL, BY THE TIME THE APPLIES IS NEXT WEEK, BY THE TIME I PUT ALL THESE MEMOS TO GO THROUGH THE CHAIN OF COMMAND AND GET IT ALL THE WAY UP TO WHERE IT NEEDS TO GET TO, TO SAY YES, HE'S BLESSED, HE CAN GO
SO HOW MUCH DO YOU, HOW MUCH, HOW MANY TIMES DOES THAT OCCUR? OR WHAT KIND OF MONEY ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? A THOUSAND DOLLARS FROM BILL.
BECAUSE YOU'RE GONNA SEE MOST OF 'EM ARE A HUNDRED, ONE $50, MAJORITY OF ARE FREE.
UH, LIKE THERE'S ONE COMING UP FOR SWIFT WATER RESCUE.
ALL THIS STUFF WE'RE HAVING TO DEAL WITH NOW WITH EVERY ONE OF YOU COMMISSIONERS IN THE PRECINCTS HAVE HAD ROAD WASHED OUT.
WELL, NOT MANY PEOPLE KNOW WHEN SOMETHING LIKE THAT HAPPENS.
I MORE OR LESS WORK HAND IN HAND WITH YOU AND THE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT COORDINATOR.
TO, TO REPORT BACK TO THE STATE WHAT'S GOING ON.
SO ALL THOSE NIGHTS THAT WAS RAINING, THE ROAD WASHED OUT, COMBINE AND ALL THAT, I WAS UP WITH EVERYBODY ELSE WITH THE EMO TALKING TO HIM.
WHAT DO WE NEED TO DO TO HELP YOU? WHAT DO WE NEED TO BRING IN TODAY? I NEED TO SEND TROOPER BLACK ROAD WHAT I NEED TO DO.
AND THAT'S, YOU KNOW, THAT CAN COME IN, COME IN THE SWIFT WATER EXECUTE STUFF LIKE THAT.
UH, HE COURT WRITING DEAL INTRODUCTION CLASSES, WHICH BENEFIT THE COUNTY BECAUSE THAT'S THE MAIN GOAL OF THE ISLAND PATROL IS TO PROTECT CITIZENS OF COFFMAN COUNTY ORDERS STATION.
YOU HAVE A COPY OF YOUR BUDGET? YES SIR.
IF YOU LOOK DOWN AT THE BOTTOM LINE, IT TALKS ABOUT OFFICE FURNITURE AND EQUIPMENT.
UH, WE'VE BEEN BUDGETING ONE FOR SOME REASON.
IN 2016 WE BUDGETED 6,000, THEN WE REVISED 12,000.
THEY UM, THERE WAS A REQUEST TO UP HIS COMMUNICATION LINE ITEM TO SIX BY 6,000.
THAT WAS THAT ON THE, UH, SO YOU COULD GET THE UH UH, ALL THE, WHAT WAS IT? UH, DIRECTV.
AND THE REASON WHY WE HAVE THAT IS FOR WEATHER.
SO THAT WAS KIND OF A ONE TIME EXPENSE.
THAT'S ONE TIME I DON'T THINK TO CHARGE YOU FOR THE SERVICE.
SO, UH, I JUST NOTICED WHERE WE'D ONLY PAID AS OF 31ST.
I'M JUST WONDERING IF THERE'S MONEY IN THE BUDGET.
WELL, I MEAN IT'S NOT A HUGE AMOUNT YOU'RE ASKING FOR, BUT I'M JUST WONDERING IT'S MONEY THAT MAY BE IN BUDGET THAT BE MOVED.
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THING TO THAT SAY INDICATION ALL STUFF? YEAH, PROBABLY DO THAT.WE CAN ADD ALSO TRAINING EDUCATION TO THAT.
WE PUT THOSE TOGETHER OR SHE WOULD MAKE IT SEPARATE.
ARE Y'ALL OKAY WITH THAT? JUST PUTTING A THOUSAND IN THERE.
WELL THAT'S WHAT I WAS WONDER THERE.
I KNOW YOU'VE GOT A COMPUTER UPGRADE HERE THAT YOU REQUESTED.
YEAH, THE EQUIPMENT THE SAME AS IT.
DOES THAT MEAN IT'S NOT NECESSARY OR WELL SOMEBODY ELSE PAID FOR IT OR STATE COULD HAVE BROUGHT IT IN.
SO THEY COULD HAVE BROUGHT IN COMPUTERS LIKE MINE.
LET'S JUST TAKE COMPUTER ALL THE WAY OUT.
AND JUST PUT IN A THOUSAND DOLLARS TRAINING FOR TRAINING FOR THAT.
THAT'S EASY ENOUGH COMPUTER UPGRADE OUT AND IF IN THE FUTURE YOU NEED THAT, YOU CAN COME BACK.
WE NOT GONNA ONE TIME THE LONGEST DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT WE IN COMMUNICATION, WE ONLY HAD 1000.
WE BUMPED IT UP TO SIX AND I'M THINKING THAT WAS THE, THEN WE BUDGET DID THREE AND HE SAID THE STATE WOUND UP FURNISHING THE COMPUTERS THAT WE HAD $3,000.
I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT COMPUTER OR TALKING COMMUNICATION.
WE HADN'T SPENT ALL THAT MONEY.
OR YOU STILL GONNA LOCK 6,000 FOR THIS YEAR, THIS NEW YEAR.
AND I THINK JUDGE, THAT WAS THE INITIAL INSTALLATION WAS THE MOST EXPENSIVE PART OF THAT.
I COULD NOT TELL YOU BECAUSE WE DON'T GET IT ELSE AND IT'S JUST A BASIC UH, DIRECT TV THING.
GEORGE IS THE ONE DID HANDLE THAT.
SO I PAID FOR IT AND DIDN'T PAY FOR IT ANY YEARS.
OTHER WORDS, YOU'RE STILL IN YOUR, OKAY, WE STILL TAKE THAT OUT.
AND THEN, BUT THE ONE RIGHT ABOVE THAT, KAREN, WHERE IT TALKED ABOUT COMPUTER UPGRADES.
AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO ADD A LINE FOR A THOUSAND DOLLARS FOR GOT THAT.
AND YOU'LL THE PROCESS YOU'LL NEED TO GO THROUGH.
THAT'S WHAT I WAS GONNA ASK YOU NEXT.
HOW THE PROCESS YOU NEED TO COME TO THE AUDITOR AUDITOR'S OFFICE AND WE'LL SHOW YOU HOW.
AND YOU KNOW WHERE THAT IS, RIGHT? JUST SOME ADDITIONAL INFORMATION ON THAT.
COMMUNICATIONS AT THE END OF MAY.
SO WE HAD FOR WHAT? IT'S, BUT, AND IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, THEY'RE PAYING THAT MONTHLY TO BILL THE DIRECTIVITY OUT THE CITY PAYMENT.
WHAT I, I WAS TOLD LAST TIME PROBABLY LINKED, WELL THAT WAS BECAUSE GEORGE WAS OVER THERE.
THE BILL HAD WENT TO YOU GUYS.
SO THAT WAS JUST LIKE A ONE TIME THING AND THEN YEAH.
ANYWAY, GEORGE PAID FOR IT, COME TO US AND THEN WE HAD TO DO IT TO, SO YEAH, IT LOOKS LIKE THE BIG INVOICE I WAS TALKING ABOUT INSTALL SIX DROP, THAT WAS JUST PRIME INSTALLATION, CORRECT? CORRECT.
BUT MOSTLY THERE'S A BILL TOO, RIGHT? YEAH.
WHICH I DON'T KNOW WHERE IT GOES AND I'M NOT COMPLAINING.
IT GETS, IT GETS SHUT OFF MONTHLY BECAUSE WE HAVE TO CALL BECAUSE NOBODY REALLY
WELL IT HAS TO BUT YOU'RE NOT COMPLAINING ABOUT IT.
WHAT'S THE BILLING ADDRESS ON IT? BECAUSE THE WAY I UNDERSTOOD IT WAS IT WAS EITHER GOING TO Y'ALL'S OFFICE AND Y'ALL DIDN'T KNOW HOW TO PAY IT OR IT WAS GOING TO THE AUDITOR'S OFFICE AND THEN THE AUDITOR'S OFFICE WAS STAMPING OFF ON IT, SENDING IT BACK BECAUSE SOMEBODY HAS TO SIGN OFF ON THAT AND THEN SEND IT BACK.
AND IF YOU DON'T SEND IT BACK TO THE AUDITOR'S OFFICE WITH A SIGNATURE ON IT, THEN THEY WILL.
SO THE LADIES UP FRONT, THEY'RE THINKING THAT IT'S GOING, THE AUDITOR'S OFFICE AND AUDITOR'S GOING, WELL IT'S NOT OUR DEAL, SEND IT TO US.
AND THAT NO, YOU HAVE TO HAVE A SIGNATURE.
HOW MANY FOR THE 1800 THIS YEAR? YEAH, THAT COST GOT SIX.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE NEXT YEAR.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT NEXT YEAR.
OH, ALL YOU'RE GONNA HAVE NOW IS THE MONTHLY.
BUT WE DON'T NEED YOU TO GET IT CUT OFF EVERY MONTH.
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WE NEED TO GET IT.HOW MANY MORE TROOPERS, DIRECTOR, HIGHWAY PATROL TROOPERS DO YOU HAVE ASSIGNED TO CALL COUNTY? I HAVE, I HAVE SEVEN, I MEAN EIGHT AT THE MOMENT.
AND IN AUGUST I'LL HAVE A MEMPHIS PD COME TO WORK FOR US.
THAT'LL PUT ME FOR FIRST TIME MECHANIC IN FLORIDA.
NOW THAT DOES NOT INCLUDE THE LICENSE AND WEIGHT.
SOME ROOMS I THOUGHT WE HAD LIKE 20.
SO YOU'VE GOT 18 TWO SERGEANT.
SERGEANT O'LEARY ON THE OTHER SIDE.
THE ENTIRE COUNTY HAS AND THEN PLUS THE THREE LICENSE AND WEIGHT ASSIGNED.
BUT THEY'RE SERGEANTS AT THE TIME.
AND SO YOU WILL BE FULL STAFF WHENEVER YOU GET THIS SET.
DO HOW MANY OF 'EM ARE BEING SENT TO THE BOARD IF YOU THAT EVERY ONE OF THEM, UH, ONCE A WEEK SOMEBODY'S GONE.
IF ONE TO TWO, NOT, NOT ALL, I MEAN ONE OR TWO ARE GONE FOR A WEEK.
OR NEXT DAY THEY STAY AND EVEN I HAVE TO GO, I'LL LEAVE YOU BY THE SEVENTH AND COME BACK ON THE 15.
SINCE YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED TO ARREST ANY ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS, WHAT Y'ALL DO? I'M BEING RECORDED ABOVE ME.
I JUST WONDERED TO TURN, THEY DON'T BE PROACTIVE TO THE REACT.
THEY DON'T SEND DOWN WHEN HE CHANGED, WHEN HE TOOK CI GOES, YES, HE STILL THERE.
HE WAS STILL GOING DOWN THERE.
WELL YOU, Y'ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? OTHER, OTHER THAN THAT FOR ME? UH, GOT, WE'RE FINE.
WE'RE LIKE I SAY WE'RE GRATEFUL FOR WHAT YOU GIVE US.
UH, I'M JUST GLAD TO BE BACK HOME BACK FOR 16 YEARS.
UH, LIKE I SAY, YOU MAY WANT RUN FOR SHERIFF SOMEDAY.
THAT'S WHAT ALL DPS PEOPLE DO.
YOU NOT RESPOND TO THAT RECORDED.
I'M FROM THE GREAT CITY OF TEXAS.
WELL WE WE CAN, WE CAN FORGIVE ANYTHING.
HE'S, HE CAN'T HELP THAT TEXAS.
WELL, BUT NO, THERE'S ANYTHING WE CAN HELP Y'ALL WITH.
LIKE I SAY, AND I WAS GOING GET, I CAME OUT THERE OTHER DAY, Y'ALL HELPED BUT IT, BUT WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT AS FAR AS LIKE IF Y'ALL HAVING ROAD CREWS ON ROADS AND TRAFFIC'S NOT COOPERATING, YOU MEAN YOU DON'T WHATEVER THAT, I MEAN I CAN'T DEDICATE A GUIDE TO YOU FOR 10 HOURS ON JOBS.
THEY CAN CERTAINLY COME DOWN THOSE ROADS AND, AND BE STANDING AND HELP.
WELL THAT THE DISCUSSION WE HAD A LITTLE BIT BEFORE YOU GOT HERE, JUST LITERALLY WAS IS THAT WHENEVER THERE'S AN ACCIDENT ON INTERSTATE 20, OR PROBABLY WHENEVER YOU SET UP THE, OR WHENEVER THEY CALL YOU AND, AND YOU SET UP THE WEIGHT, UH, THING, THE TRUCKS WILL TAKE, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE NOT GOING, THEY'RE GOING LOOK FOR THE CHARGES.
I UNDERSTAND AND I KNOW YOU'RE INTERESTED IN, YOU KNOW, GETTING THE TRAFFIC MOVING AGAIN.
BUT, UH, WE DO HAVE UH, QUITE A FEW OF THE TRUCKS THAT DO TAKE THE COUNTY ROADS AND, AND CAUSE DAMAGE.
AND SO WHETHER YOU'D HAVE THE ABILITY DIVERT ANY TROOPERS OFF TO WATCH THAT, I DON'T KNOW.
BECAUSE YOU'RE TRYING TO GET THE RED CLEAR.
ANYBODY WE CAN IN THE LONG RUN.
AND WE WANT TO KEEP IT REALLY WANTS KEEP YOUR ROAD GOOD CHECK.
I MEAN, I'VE GOTTA PAY FOR THAT ROAD TAX, TAX.
MY TAX MONEY GOES PAY FOR THAT LITTLE PRICE.
I MEAN I, I HAVE WITHOUT A CONCERN, BUT I'M JUST IN A POSITION WHERE I CAN HELP THAT.
NOW WILL THEY SEND AN UPDATED VERSION OF THIS? YES.
NO, YOU DON'T GET ANYTHING ELSE? YES.
COME SEE HER AND SHE'S GONNA FIX ALL THAT FOR YOU.
JUST COME SEE HER LIKE NEXT WEEK PROBABLY.
UH, ON YOUR NEXT BUDGET, YOU HAVE OFFICE SUPPLIES WITH 700 FROM LINE 31.
GET RID OF THE STORAGE FOR THE WEIGHT MACHINE AND ADD THAT 700 TO THE 600 AND OFFICE SUPPLIES.
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WEIGHT.THAT'S A DIFFERENT DEPARTMENT.
BUT AS FAR AS THEY'VE DONE THAT IN, YOU DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THIS THOUGH? NO, SIR.
THEY'RE JUST CLOSING OUT THAT STORAGE.
'CAUSE THEY DON'T EVER USE IT.
THEY DIDN'T SPEND ANY MONEY OUT OF IT.
SO WHAT THEY'RE DOING IS JUST CLOSING IT OUT AND MOVING IT UP TO THAT ONE.
YOU HAVE, I HAVE, COULD YOU, I'LL GIVE YOU MINE COPY AND MAYBE YOU ADD THAT BACK TO YOUR LICENSE AND WAIT, MAKE SURE COUNTERPART, HE HAS CONTACT THERE.
HE CAN WHO'S, WHO'S YOUR CONTACT NOW.
AND YOU CAN KIND OF SEE WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THERE.
THAT UH, UH, THAT IT DOES SAY LICENSE.
WHAT'S, WHAT'S THAT GUY? RAY WAYNE? YEAH, I GOT HIS NAME.
YOU COULD TELL HIM BECAUSE HE DIDN'T SHOW UP AND ASK FOR HIS BUDGET TO BE FIXED.
I THAT OR, UH, 5 1 2 5 8 8 0 3 4 9.
THANK Y'ALL VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TRANSPARENCY.
BEST THAT YOU HAVE A GOOD DAY,
ALRIGHT, LET'S TRY TO WIND UP HERE IF WE CAN.
IS EVERYBODY GOOD? WE, I THINK WE CAN GET THROUGH THIS NEXT LITTLE BIT AND THEN LONG, EVERYBODY LONG WE'VE HAD TOO LONG DAYS.
LET'S GO BACK TO THE SECOND PAGE, UH, OF THE, UH, 4 0 9 BUDGET THAT STARTS WITH ATTORNEY FEES AND COSTS, UH, AND COURT COSTS.
I'M NOT SURE I KNOW WHAT THAT IS.
UH, WE DON'T SPEND A LOT OF MONEY, BUT UH, YOU KNOW, IT'S KIND OF ANY ATTORNEY FEES THAT WE GET THAT AREN'T REALLY PROCESSED THROUGH OUR COURT.
LIKE IF WE HIRED JOHN MO, WHO TO DO SOMETHING FOR OR SOMETHING, THAT'S WHERE THAT WOULD COME FROM.
CAPITAL MURDER, DEFENSE INSURANCE.
THAT IS THE, NOT THE, UH, THAT, THAT'S FOR THE REGIONAL PUBLIC DEFENDERS, NOT THE EXPERT WITNESSES.
THAT'S JUST WHAT WE PAID THEM.
AND THAT'S SET I THINK FOR A YEAR OR TWO BECAUSE THE LEGISLATURE STARTED KICKING UP A LITTLE MONEY TOWARDS THAT.
MISCELLANEOUS IS JUST, WE CAN'T FIND ANYTHING ELSE.
THE REFUND, THE VENUS INITIATIVE.
THAT'S THE AGREEMENT THE COURT ENTERED INTO WITH THE CITY OF TERRELL YEARS AGO ON THE, UH, ALL OF THE AND UH, IS THAT SUPPOSED TO START DECLINING? IT'S SUPPOSED TO.
DO YOU KNOW? UH, WE'RE GONNA START LOOKING AT IT.
WELL THEY COULDN'T DO A TAX BAIL.
REMEMBER THEY COULDN'T DO A TAX ABATEMENT OR YEAH, I WAS TRYING TO PULL MY PLAN, BUT, UH, YEAH, IT WAS, THEY DID A 20 YEAR AGREEMENT THAT EVERY FIVE TO SEVEN YEARS IT WENT DOWN A PERCENTAGE.
IN FACT, THEY HAVE CALLED AND ASKED FOR THEIR MONEY.
I HAVE TO GET ONLINE AND DOWNLOAD HOW MUCH THEY PAID BECAUSE THERE'S TWO ACCOUNTS.
ONE'S CALLED AUTOZONE, ONE'S CALLED VENUS INITIATIVE.
AND VENUS INITIATIVE IS THEIR INVENTORY.
AND IT DEPENDS ON WHAT THEY HAVE ON HAND AND WHAT THEY PAY THE TAXES BY THE PERCENTAGE OF WHAT WE HAVE TO PAY.
AND THAT'S WHAT THEY HAVE ON HAND.
THE FIRST THEY PARDON? THEY PAID THE TAXES ON INVENTORY, THEN WE GIVE IT BACK.
BASICALLY, I COULDN'T HAND INVENTORY THE INVENTORY.
WELL, YOU KEPT SAYING ON, ON AND TALKING ABOUT CAROL AND I DIDN'T KNOW THAT WAS A 20 YEAR AGREEMENT.
NOW WE MAY NEED TO GET, WHAT YEAR WAS WE INTO? UH, I DUNNO, OUR PERCENTAGE JUST WENT DOWN BY 10% THIS YEAR.
PROBABLY WHAT WE NEED IS GET, UH, MY SOMEBODY TO COME OVER AND TALK ABOUT THIS AS WELL AS THE THINGS THAT I KNOW YOU AND JIMMY ARE ON THE THING.
UH, BUT WE PROBABLY JUST SOLD BECAUSE THE COURT'S CHANGED AND I'M, I'LL BE HONEST WITH YOU, THE VENISH INITIATIVE, I HAD NO CLUE WHAT THAT WAS WHEN I FIRST GOT HERE BECAUSE I'D NOT HEARD ANYTHING ABOUT IT.
BUT THERE IS AN AGREEMENT IN PLACE AN YOU MAY REMEMBER SOMETHING ABOUT IT.
I I ABOUT THE THE VENUS INITIATIVE.
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I, WE HAVE A COPY OF IT OVER THERE.DON, IS HE STILL ON THE HE'S STILL ON THE, OKAY.
UH, SEE WE'VE GOT THE TIF LEVY FOR, UH, TERL AND FORNEY.
WHAT IS NOT ON HERE IS THE POWER.
UH, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO GIVE WITH THEM AND FIGURE OUT, UH, THE POWER ZONE IS, YEAH.
AND REALLY THE POWER ZONE SPEED UP THE, THE I WHERE THE BUCKING AREA AND ALL THAT IS, LET ME TELL YOU, WE HAD A MEETING WITH THE CITY OF CORNEY AND THE APPRAISAL DISTRICT AND BASE AMOUNTS WERE WRONG THAT WE CALCULATED THE PAYMENTS TO CORNEY CORNEY, NOT TERRY.
ARE THEY GONNA GIVE US SOME BACK? NO.
UH, WE'RE PROBABLY GONNA HAVE TO FIND ABOUT ANOTHER 55, 60 5,000 THIS YEAR TO PAY ON WHAT WE'RE GONNA OWE THEM BECAUSE ALL RATES ARE CHANGING.
WELL, WE NEED TO, WE NEED TO GET OUR ARM AROUND THIS BECAUSE THINGS ARE BAD.
WELL THEY ARE, THEY'RE BUT THEY, I UNDERSTAND YOU'RE THE CHAIRMAN OF THE ONE.
WELL BAD BUT YOU LOOK TERRIBLE.
THE CHAIRMAN OF THE PNY TIP BOARD.
I KNOW THEY'RE, BUT THE PROBLEM IS YOU HAVE TO COMPETE WITH THE YEAH, I THINK THEY COMPETE WITH INDEPENDENT BUSINESS IS WHAT BOTHERS ME.
THE CITY IS, HERE'S A GUY THAT'S BEEN HERE FOR 20 YEARS TRYING TO MAKE A LIVING AND ALL OF A SUDDEN YOU'RE GIVING THIS GUY A BETTER LEG UP THAN HE HAS.
WELL, NOT REALLY BECAUSE A LOT OF THAT GOES FOR INFRASTRUCTURE.
JUST LIKE IN BOG, YOU KNOW, THEY HAD NO WATER, NO SEWER, YOU KNOW, ELECTRICITY.
THEY DIDN'T HAVE ANY ACCESS ROADS.
SO TO GET THAT AREA GROWING, YOU KNOW, YOU AGREE FOR THAT CONTRACTOR OR DEVELOPER OR WHATEVER TO PUT ALL THAT IN.
AND THEN HE GETS REIMBURSED WITH THE TAX THAT HE WOULD NORMALLY PAY.
AND YOU'RE NOT LOSING MONEY UNTIL HE GETS THAT BACK.
WHAT YOU'RE DOING IS YOU'RE STARTING THE GROWTH OF AN AREA THAT HAS SET HIS I FOR A LONG TIME.
AND YOU, WHEN YOU, WHEN YOU PUT A THING ACROSS THE STREET, IT'S GOT 3000 HOMES IN IT.
YOU JUST PUT ALL THE INFRASTRUCTURE IN ALL THESE HOMES.
WELL THE HOME, THE HOMES IN A COMPLETE DIFFERENT DEAL.
THE BUSINESS IS WHAT I'M SAYING IS A TERRIBLE THING IN SOME INSTANCES.
THEY JUST USE IT TO WAY EVERYTHING.
WELL THAT'S A, WELL IT'S ABUSE OF IT, NOT OF IT'S A PROBLEM.
THAT MIGHT BE A GOOD WORKSHOP.
GOOD WORKSHOP THAT WE NEED TO HAVE EVERYBODY WILL FULLY UNDERSTAND.
AND SINCE YOU ARE PUBLICLY NOW ON THE RECORD, NO, I'M PART OF IT, BUT I MEAN, UM, THAT'S JUST WAY IT IS.
I MEAN, IT, IT'S NOT THAT DISAGREE.
WON'T 55 TO 65,000 THAT YOU JUST MENTIONED.
I MEAN THAT'S MONEY WE HAVE COME UP WITH THIS YEAR, YOU KNOW, AND I'M NOT SURE WE'RE NOT GOING RUN THE SAME THING MATERIAL.
BUT UH, NOW THE, THE POWER ZONE, I DON'T THINK WE, NOT POWER ZONE, BUT UH, WHAT I POWER, BECAUSE THIS IS THE FIRST YEAR OF IT SINCE ANYTHING'S OUT THERE.
BUT WE'VE GOTTA GET A GRASP ON WHAT WE NEED TO BUDGET FOR AND HOW THAT CAN AFFECT US.
AND THEN I THINK DOESN'T, DOESN'T COFFMAN HAVE ONE NOW THEN WE JUST DO THAT ADD ON THE PART OF WHERE WALMART, I THINK ANOTHER ONE.
WHAT DO Y'ALL THINK ABOUT, UH, WHILE WE KIND OF TALKING ABOUT THIS, WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT PUTTING ALL OF THESE TIF FUNDS, REFUNDS ALL ON A SEPARATE, IT WOULD BE EASIER TO SEE.
YEAH, LET'S GET 'EM OUT OF THIS GENERAL, GENERAL FUND 4 0 9 AND CREATE ANOTHER FUND FOR THE TIF AND WE CAN'T MOVE THE WE NUMBER TWO, WE DON'T RECEIVE THAT, DO WE? I MEAN, ALL WE'RE DOING IS EXPENSE, SO YEAH, BUT I MEAN, I WOULD LIKE TO, SO I THINK IT'D BE EASIER FOR US TO SEE WHAT WE'VE GOT BECAUSE RIGHT NOW WE DON'T HAVE A C ON HERE, WHICH WE JUST DID.
AND THERE, THERE'S GOOD REASON FOR THAT.
BUT THE POWER CENTER, THE TERRIBLE POWER CENTER, NOT HERE.
WHEN YOU SAY WHAT WE'VE GOT, LIKE, LIKE I SAID, ALL WE'RE
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DOING IS EXPENSE IN THIS HOUSE.SO LITERALLY ALL WE DOING IS MOVING EXPENSE FROM ONE FUND TO ANOTHER.
WE'D HAVE TO SET UP A TRANSFER BETWEEN THE GENERAL CLIMATE AND THE
YOU HAVE TO DO A TRANSFER TO TRANSFER THE MONEY.
I MEAN, YOU'RE LOOKING AT, IS THAT A HARD THING TO DO? I MEAN IT'S, YEAH, YOU LOSE THE HISTORY BECAUSE THAT HISTORY'S BEEN IN THOSE LINE ITEMS. WELL IT'S A LOT OF, IT'S A LOT OF EXTRA CERTAIN WORK.
THEY'RE ALREADY SPLIT OUT AS THEY ARE THEY HERE.
I'M JUST TRYING TO MAKE IT AN EASIER FOR US AS A COURT TO GO THROUGH IT SO WE CAN SEE WHERE IT WOULD BE.
SO, UH, I GUESS I, I'M JUST, WE CAN MAKE, WE CAN DISCUSS LATER ANYWAY.
I DO THINK IT'S SOMETHING WE NEED TO HAVE A WORKSHOP ON.
YOU WANT TO HAVE TERRELL POWER CENTER? IS THAT WHAT YOU WANTED? TERRELL POWER CENTER? I THINK WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO PAY DUE TO THEM THIS NEXT BUDGET.
WHAT ABOUT CITY OF COFFMAN? DO ONE FOR THAT.
I THINK WE NEED TO GO AHEAD AND PUT THE CITY OF COFFMAN ON THOUGH.
IT'S JUST LIKE IT'LL BE THERE.
IT'S LIKE THE DEAL ON THE NEY YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT.
UH, I MEAN WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING BUDGETED FOR THAT.
UH, I KNOW WHERE WE BUDGETED 12 FIVE I GUESS FOR THIS COMING YEAR.
EVIDENT LONG MONEY FOR THE END OF THIS BUDGET YEAR.
HAVE YOU HEARD BACK FROM CHRIS? WE SENT HIM THE CORRECTED SHEETS ON THE INFORMATION WE WERE GIVEN THAT WHEN WE WENT TO THAT MEETING.
AND SO, HEY DIDN'T FIX A GOOD SPREADSHEET.
SHOW HIM WHERE THE DIFFERENCES WAS BECAUSE THEIR GUY WAS IN ERROR AND WE TRACKED IT DOWN.
HE DID WHAT IT SHOULD BE AND SENT IT TO HIM.
BUT WE HAVEN'T HEARD ANYTHING.
THEY'D ADD UP TO 30 $400,000 IN A FEW YEARS.
I WOULD THINK THE CITY WOULD'VE SOME RESPONSIBILITY TO GET IT TO THEM BECAUSE THEY'RE THE ONE THAT'S GOING TO BENEFIT IT FROM PAYING BACK THE INFRASTRUCTURE COSTS.
BUT FROM MY GATHERING, IT'S BECAUSE PROPERTY VALUES IN HORNY HAVE NOT BEEN ESTIMATED OR APPRAISED IN VALUES AND THEY'RE NOW HAVING TO GO BACK AND FIX EVERYTHING.
SO I NOW, I DON'T KNOW HOW LONG THAT'S GONNA TAKE.
I MEAN, I'VE READ SO I DON'T HAVE A CLUE, YOU KNOW.
IT'S, IT'S POSSIBLE I USED TO DO THIS AND I'LL HAVE TO SEE IF I CAN REDO IT.
I COULD LEAVE THEM IN 4 0 9, BUT MOVE ON TO A PROGRAM NUMBER WHERE THEY'D STILL BE IN THIS DEPARTMENT.
BUT IT WOULD BE WITH A, AN ADDITIONAL PROGRAM NUMBER.
IT'D BE A LONGER NUMBER AND IT WOULD STILL, IT'D MAKE IT PRINT SEPARATE.
I'D HAVE TO TRY IT, PLAY WITH IT.
I, I JUST THINK IT'D BE EASIER FOR US.
THE TIPS ON, BUT IF IT'S BUT YOU'RE JUST WANTING GET SEPARATED FROM THIS ON THIS OFFICE PAGE.
SO WE DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO, I JUST THINK IT'D BE EASIER FOR US.
YOU KNOW, WE HAVE, WE HAD TOO MANY OF PAPER.
I, AND MAYBE THAT'S THE WRONG NO, THAT'S COOL.
WE'LL FIGURE OUT PROBABLY EVEN IF THEY HIGHLIGHTED SOMEHOW SHEET STUFF.
OFFICE PROGRAM, OFFICE FURNITURE.
UH, LISA IS THAT COMING THROUGH YOU NOW? AND UH, THAT USED TO BE.
SHE'S DEALING WITH, WE USED TO HAVE, EVERYBODY HAD THEIR OWN OFFICE FURNITURE BUDGET.
WHAT WAS FOUND FOR HAPPENING DOWN AT THE END OF BUDGET YEAR AND OH, OUR $2,000 WE HADN'T SPENT ON ALL BUY SIGN.
SO WE MOVED IT OVER THERE AND THAT WAY TOOK IT ON OUT.
PUT ALL, YEAH, MIGHT, WELL WHY NOT? UH, PRETTY MUCH, WE STILL HAVE A FEW DEPARTMENTS THAT WHENEVER IT STARTS GETTING DOWN TO THE END OF THE BUDGET YEAR, THEY START CALLING GOING WHAT'S LEFT IN THAT LINE THAT I COULD SPEND? SO, WELL IT'S NOT DAYLIGHT.
IT, IT WAS LOVINGLY NAMED THE DADDY JACK FUND.
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OKAY.THE EQUIPMENT, WHAT IS THAT? UH, THAT WAS FOR THE CONSTABLES FOR, UH, NEXT YEAR.
TOOK OUT THE NEW EQUIPMENT LINES IN OH, PUT 'EM ALL, ALL THEY WANT IT.
Y'ALL WANT IT ON NEW EQUIPMENT, OUT OF THOSE INDIVIDUAL BUDGETS SO WE CAN PUT IT THERE.
SO DO WE NEED TO, WE CAN TAKE THAT OUT.
I GUESS NEED A TASER GUN OR EVEN LIKE HE NEEDED CAMERAS.
WE COULD ACTUALLY, WE COULD PUT IT IN THAT IF WE WANT, IF A CONSTABLE HAS A, I KNOW AT LEAST ONE OF OUR CONSTABLES HAS A SEIZURE FOUR.
SO IF A CONSTABLE AND THAT IT MAY NOT STAY IN THERE VERY LONG, BUT IF A CONSTABLE HAS A SEIZURE FUND, UH, SHOULD THEY NOT BE, I GUESS TRYING TO, TRYING TO MICRO LINEAGE HERE, BUT, UH, SHOULD THEY NOT BE REQUIRED TO BUY THINGS THAT ARE THEIR SEIZURE FUND BEFORE THEY COME TO THE COUNTY AND ASK THEM? PAM? ACTUALLY JUST, I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAVE, DO WE HAVE ANY KIND OF CONTROL OR I DON'T KNOW THAT WE DO.
PAM JUST EMAILED ME OR CALLED ME THE OTHER DAY ASKING, 'CAUSE THE NEW CONSTABLE WANTED TO KNOW WHAT HE COULD SPEND THOSE FUNDS ON.
I WENT AND GOT THE FOR HER, UM, WHAT IT CAN AND CANNOT BE SPENT ON BOARDED TO HER SO SHE COULD FORWARD IT ONTO THE NEW CONSTABLE.
UM, OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, I CAN'T REMEMBER.
I, IT, IT HAS TO DO, IT CAN BE SPENT ON EQUIPMENT, IT CAN BE SPENT ON TRAINING, BUT IT HAS TO BE IN PURSUIT OF PUBLIC SAFETY.
UM, IF YOU WANT TO KNOW, THERE'S ONLY ABOUT $6,000 THIS FEDERAL OR CEASED, THAT'S QUITE A BIT OF MONEY.
BUT I MEAN, I GUESS THE CONSTABLE WOULD COME UNDER THE SAME LAW.
MAYBE THAT THE SHERIFF, IT'S CHAPTER 59.
IT'S, IT'S THE, SO I MEAN HE COULDN'T, WHAT WE HAVE, WE HAVE A CONSTABLE THAT'S LEAVING THE OFFICE WITH A $6,000 SEIZURE FUND.
WHY COULDN'T HE GO AHEAD AND BUY THAT OUT OF THAT FOR THE NEW CONSTABLE? WELL, UNIFORM EVERYTHING.
CAN YOU CHECK? YOU WANT TO FORWARD TO THAT STATUTE PLEASE? WHY SHOULD HE? HOW, HOW DO THEY GET A SEIZURE? THEY CEASED IT AND SEIZE DRUG OR VEHICLE.
YEAH, BUT DO THEY ALL HAVE AN ACCOUNT? I MEAN IT'S JUST THAT ONE YOU HAVE DO THEY HAVE TO SET UP ONE YOU HAVE BEFORE THEY DO IT? YEAH, YOU HAVE TO DO IT.
YOU YEAH, THEY SEIZE MEAN IT'S PRETTY CLOSE REGULATED.
THEY CAN GET IN TROUBLE IF THEY DON'T.
LIKE ALL THES HAVE BEEN, NOT TO MENTION THAT.
I THINK IT ALSO HAS TO BE SET UP FOR SEIZURES THAT ARE DONE IN THAT PRECINCT IN THEIR JURISDICTION.
AND THERE'S CERTAIN GUIDELINES THEY HAVE TO FOLLOW.
ALL I SENT HIM WAS JUST WHAT IT COULD, CAN AND CAN BE SPENT ON.
YOU READY FOR? NO, I'M NOT GONNA SEND YOU THE WHOLE THING.
UH, THAT'S THE AMOUNT THAT WE CONTRIBUTE TOWARDS THE, UH, COLLIN COUNTY SENIOR CITIZEN FARM.
ONE OF Y'ALL ON THAT BOARD, UH, I THOUGHT WAS SOMEBODY WAS ON THAT BOARD.
THAT'S THE, THE MATH THAT WE CONTRIBUTE TOWARDS THE SENIOR CITIZEN, UH, ACTIVITIES THAT GO PLACE ACROSS THE COUNTY.
I THINK IT'S TERRELL AND KAUFMAN AND I DON'T REMEMBER WHO, WHETHER WE'RE DOING MORNING HAVE ANYTHING OVER THERE.
WELL THEY HAVE A MEAL THERE HALL EVERY DAY.
YEAH, WE HAVE, WE HAVE LUNCH THERE.
I THINK THAT'S WHERE THAT GOES TO THOSE.
I DIDN'T KNOW THAT THEY GOT ANY MONEY FROM, DO THEY GET MONEY FROM COFFEE? I'M NOT SURE.
THIS IS ON NO, NO RESTRICTION.
NO, HE TOLD THE TRUCKS ARE MAY HAVE TO CALL FROM COUNTY SENIOR CITIZENS.
THAT'S WE, THAT'S THE ONLY INFORMATION I HAVE.
ANGIE, I KNOW THIS IS SOMETHING YOU DO.
WHAT A MISS OVER THE COUNTY SERVICES, IT'S UH, AT 11 9 40.
BUT THE CORRECT AMOUNT IS 13,111.
AND WE DIDN'T HAVE A CHANCE TO CHANGE IT.
AND THAT'S THROUGH COUNCIL GOVERNANCE? I BELIEVE SO THAT'S THE MATCH THAT WE GET.
300 SOMETHING THOUSAND I THINK.
I MEAN THEY, BUT THAT'S OUR, OUR PART,
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THE V MAINTENANCE FEE.UH, ANGIE TELL US, I KNOW YOU FILLED THAT OUT.
YOU HAVE YEARS WE USED TO GET THE MONEY AND WE WOULD HAVE TO PAY THAT.
WE GET THE MONEY FROM THE AG AND THEN HAVE TO PAY IT TO A FREE, BUT NOW THE AG JUST PAID THEM.
SO IT'S KIND OF LIKE A PASS THROUGH.
BUT WE STILL HAVE TO RECORD IT.
WE HAVE TO RECORD IT, BUT WE DON'T ACTUALLY TOUCH THE MONEY.
AND ACTUALLY WE CAN ACTUALLY REDUCE THAT TO 14 0 4 7.
I'M NOT SURE HOW UP TO 15, 700.
BUT WE PAY A SET QUARTERLY AMOUNT AND YOU CAN SEE THE LAST TWO YEARS.
BUT THAT IT IS THE VICTIM'S ASSIST, UH, VICTIM'S IMPACT NOTIFICATION, ASSISTANCE STATEMENTS.
AND I DON'T, WHENEVER IT'S PASSED THROUGH MONEY, BASICALLY IT'S FOR A VICTIM TO CALL IN AND FIND OUT ABOUT THE, THE PERSON THAT COMMITTED THE CRIME AGAINST THEM.
IF THEY'RE GETTING OUT OR GETTING YEAH.
WHERE THEY'RE GOING, WHAT THEY'RE DOING.
AND THEY'LL GET NOTICE IF THEY'RE GETTING OUT PRISON AND NOTIFY 'EM PAROLE HEARINGS AND EVERYTHING.
YOU CAN SEE WHAT WE CONTRIBUTED TO THE VARIOUS LIBRARIES, UH, ACROSS THE COUNTY.
EVERYBODY READS FOR BOOKS OF LIBRARY.
WE GOT PEOPLE, THERE WAS A, UH, I I I THIS COUNTY WORM BACK UP, BUT I REMEMBER READING ABOUT IT IN THE PAPER WHENEVER THE COUNTY LIBRARY WAS CONSTRUCTED OUT HERE.
IT WAS CONSTRUCTED, I THINK WITH DONATED MONEY AND THE COUNTY STARTED FURNISHING UH, YOU KNOW, THE SALARIES AND BOOKS AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
AND THE TAR LIBRARY MADE AN ISSUE OF IT.
AND PHIL, PLEASE DON'T WRITE THIS DOWN.
UH, THE TAR LIBRARY MADE AN ISSUE OF IT BECAUSE THEY SAID, WELL WE SERVE PEOPLE FROM OUTSIDE THE CITY OF TERRELL AND SO, YOU KNOW, WE SHOULD BE GETTING, UH, AN AMOUNT.
AND SO I THINK THEY NEGOTIATED THIS AMOUNT LIKE 10, 15, 20 YEARS AGO.
AND I REMEMBER READING ABOUT IT AND THE, I MEAN THERE HARSH WORD ABOUT IT REALLY.
SO I JUST, YOU KNOW, LET Y'ALL WANNA OPEN UP THAT CAN OF WORM.
I MEAN I DIDN'T SAY ANYTHING ABOUT THAT.
I'D TO TELL YOU A LITTLE MORE ABOUT IT, BUT YEAH, THAT ACTUALLY SUPPOSED TO THE, I I'VE HAD PEOPLE ASK ME ABOUT THAT.
THEY LOOK, YOU LOOK IT UP ONLINE, YOU SEE IT, YOU SEE WHERE IT GOES FOR A WHILE.
WE'VE ACTUALLY REDUCED THAT A LITTLE BIT, UH, BECAUSE OF, UH, WHEN WE WERE DOING THE BUDGET CUTS, WE CUT EM 10% AND SO IT STAYED THAT 47, 600 LAST YEAR.
THEY, DO THEY HAVE ANYBODY GO THROUGH BIG ISSUE? LAST YEAR I WENT TO THE DINNER.
THEY HAD, YOU KNOW, FRIENDS IN THE LIBRARY AND ALL STUFF.
WELL YEAH, BUT THAT'S BECAUSE THEY'RE MAKING MONEY.
THEY HAVE SOMEBODY GO THERE, YOU MEAN HERE? NO, I DUNNO.
EVERYBODY, EVERY NOW AND THEN OCCASIONALLY SOMEBODY ACTUALLY PICKS UP A REAL BOOK ANYMORE.
WELL MOST OF IT'S COMPUTER NOW.
MOST PEOPLE GO UP THERE THAT DON'T HAVE, YOU KNOW, COMPUTERS OR INTERNET.
THEY GO UP THERE AND THEY FILL OUT JOB APPLICATIONS AND YOU KNOW, STUFF, WHATEVER TO SEND.
YEAH, I MEAN OF COURSE KAUFMAN'S NOT ON THERE BECAUSE WE HAVE IT AS A SUPER BUDGET.
THE COFFMAN COUNTY CHILD ADVOCACY CENTER, THAT'S WHAT WE'VE BEEN CONTRIBUTING TO THEM.
IN ADDITION, YOU KNOW, THE, WE'VE BEEN SUCCESSFUL OVER THE LAST TWO OR THREE YEARS ON CAPITAL CREDITS, YOU KNOW, THAT WE GET.
AND SO FROM TIME TO TIME, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT WE'RE GOING TO GET.
WE HAVEN'T HEARD BACK YET, BUT, UH, THEY'VE NOT ASKED FOR MORE MONEY.
SO I WOULD ASSUME WE'LL JUST CONTINUE THAT ALONG.
THAT'S THE AMOUNT WE PAID FOR JUST THE, UH, MENTAL HEALTH, UH, PROGRAM THROUGH THE LAKE REGIONAL ORGANIZATION IN, IN TER.
THAT AMOUNT HAS STAYED THE SAME.
UH, THAT'S THE FEE WE HAVE TO PAY TO SOME GROUP.
I FORGET WHO IT'S THE BUILDINGS CAME IN THE OTHER DAY FOR
WASTEWATER THAT COMES FROM THE COUNTY.
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WHEN YOU INCREASE THAT, LIKE IT'S CLOSE TO 3000 A YEAR.CHANGE THE, THE COUNTYWIDE CLEANUP.
UH, I DON'T KNOW HOW THESE COSTS, UH, REPAIR WHAT ACTUALLY SPENT.
I DO THOUGH KNOW THAT THAT IS A WIDELY POPULAR EVENT, YOU KNOW, AND ALL YOU'RE PAYING TO DO, IS THAT ENOUGH MONEY? I DUNNO, BECAUSE I, I SIGNED THE BILL THIS MORNING SIGNED.
DID Y'ALL DO YOURS YET? WE DON'T.
YOU GOTTA REMEMBER WE'VE HAD THREE WEEKS SINCE THE LAST COMMISSIONER'S COURT.
SO WE MAY HAVE BILLS THAT JUST HAVEN'T BEEN POSTED YET.
BUT THAT'S, THAT'S JUST THEY WON'T POST TILL MONDAY.
ALRIGHT, LET'S COME BACK AND LOOK AT, BECAUSE WHATEVER WE NEED A HUNDRED THOUSAND.
IT'S, WE USED TO USED TO TRY TO EACH PRECINCT, BUT SEVERAL YEARS AGO, I KNOW WHEN I FIRST GOT HERE IN COURT.
SO LET'S JUST PUT THAT IN THE GENERAL EVERYBODY IN LL EVERYBODY.
THAT'S WHAT I GONNA TELL THEM.
OH WE MOVED IS A TERRIBLE LOCATION.
UH, THE CAPITAL MURDER, THAT'S THE AREA WILLIAMS THING THAT WE TELL THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE STILL OWES US MONEY ON THE UH, THAT AS FAR AS PROSECUTION OF THAT, WE'RE STILL PURSUING THAT.
BUT IT'S CHANGE IN GOVERNORS AND UH, YOU KNOW, I'M TRYING TO REMEMBER, UH, WE'VE GOT IT OVER THERE ON THAT FLOOR.
DO YOU REMEMBER ANGIE, HOW MUCH MUCH THE GOVERNMENT GO GOVERNOR STILL OWES US HOW MUCH THEY GAVE US? NO.
HOW MUCH AT OWE STILL OWE? DUNNO MUCH.
NO, I I I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH THAT FAR AS BACK TO US.
I, I DON'T KNOW THE PROSECUTION PART.
I'M THINKING IT'S HUNDRED AS FAR AS WHAT'S BEEN APPROVED THROUGH GRANTS, WHAT'S ACTUALLY BEEN APPROVED.
WE HAD A LOT MORE EXPENSES THAN WHAT THE GRANTS WERE APPROVED FOR.
SO THAT'S WHAT HE'S TALKING ABOUT.
I THINK IT'S PROBABLY OVER HUNDRED THOUSAND.
ON BOTH ON THE DEFENSE AND ON THE PROSECUTION.
WE'VE TALKED TO THEM AND THEY TOLD US TO RESUBMIT WHAT HAPPENED? UH, BOTH MAN, I NOW TIED INTO ONE ROUND BUBBLE BRAND THAT THEY'RE PAYING US SOME PROSECUTORS THAT UH, EVEN THOUGH WE DID IT IN OUR OFFICE, SUPPOSED TO HELP US PAY EXPERT WITNESSES THAT EARLY, BROUGHT IN, YOU KNOW, COUNTER OF WHAT THE OTHER WITNESSES.
SO, BUT BOTH THE ERIC WILLIAMS PROSECUTION AND THE ERIC WILLIAMS. ERIC WILLIAMS AND THE UH, BROWN PROSECUTION, THEY IT INTO ONE GRAIN.
SO IT'S STILL A WORKING PROGRESS.
ENVIRONMENTAL CO-OP, UH, CHARLES WAS HERE, UH, I GUESS YESTERDAY WAS HERE WHILE THIS MORNING.
UH, THAT, UH, HERE, HERE'S UH, WHAT JAKE AND I WERE TALKING ABOUT AND I THINK THAT'D BE A GOOD TIME TO MAYBE REVISIT THAT SOME UH, IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING, AND YOU CORRECT ME, THERE DOES NOT SEEM TO BE THAT THERE'S A LOT OF ACTIVITY AT THE SOLID WASTE, UH, PROGRAM THAT OPERATE THAT PRECINCT.
THERE'S NOT A WHOLE LOT BECAUSE WE'RE IN THET END OF THE COUNTY.
ALL TRAFFIC FLOWS THIS WAY, DOESN'T THAT WAY.
BUT AS FAR AS HAZARDOUS HOUSEHOLD NOW SINCE TCQ NOTES WERE THERE WERE NOT BEING FILED QUARTER TO PICK IT UP AND IT'S, IT WAS OVER $5,000 PICK UP.
MOST PEOPLE KING, BUT THEY BRING UP AIR.
SO I WANNA SHUT THAT PART DOWN.
THAT FACILITY WAS BUILT FOR THE GRANT.
WE NOW PAY ABOUT 56,000 OR SOMETHING TO OPERATE THAT FACILITY OUTSIDE THE ROAD BRIDGE.
BUT UH, SO I EMAILED THE FOLKS OVER COG TO ASK THEM WHAT IT WOULD TAKE, UH, WHAT HAPPENS TO
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THAT FACILITY IF WE WERE TO NO LONGER FUND IT.AND DOES, DOES THE FACILITY BELONG TO THE COUNTY NOW? BUT WE BUY CO CAN WE SHUT IT DOWN? YOU KNOW, JUST WHAT DO, WELL, I DON'T KNOW.
THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO FIND OUT FOR, TO BUY THE LAND BUILDING.
IT'S A WELL BUILT, STURDY, HEAVY DUTY METAL BUILDING.
WHAT I UNDERSTAND IT'S KIND OF DROWNING ON THAT DEAL.
OKAY, WELL I I HAVEN'T HEARD IT.
ARE YOU SURE YOU PUT A MAGNET ON IT? WE KNOW WHY THERE'S A LOT OF CONCRETE BECAUSE THEY HAD TO BUILD UH, YOU KNOW, 18 WINDERS, WE TRAILER TIRES.
THERE'S SOME CONCRETE THERE BECAUSE THEY BACK UP LIKE A DOCK.
THEY CAN LINE THEM UP, KEEP DUMPSTERS THERE AND THAT'S WHERE WE TAKE ALL THE BRUSH FROM THE STUFF THAT YOU BURN IN JUNK CULVERTS AND STUFF.
SO THERE'S A MORGAN BUILDING THERE THAT'S FOR AN OFFICE THAT THERE'S A HEAVY DUTY BUILDING THERE FOR THE HAZARD PLACE IN, BUT IT'S SMALL.
SO ANYWAY, THE IDEA IS WE HADN'T HEARD BACK FROM COG YET, BY THE WAY.
I JUST SENT THAT DAY BEFORE YOU ISSUED.
UH, THEY'RE CHECKING TO SEE WHAT THE PROCEDURES ARE, WHAT, WHAT WE CAN DO TO SHUT THE FACILITY DOWN OR TO PURCHASE THE FACILITY OR THEY'LL GIVE IT TO US.
WHATEVER, UH, THAT CAN BE USED.
I DON'T THINK YOU WANTED TO USE IT FOR A COUNTY BARN BECAUSE OF IT'S BUILT ON A HILL AND IT'S ALL SLOW DOWN.
UH, BUT WATER WOULD BE GOOD FOR A WATER SLIDE MAKE FOR AMUSEMENT PARK THAT'VE BEEN THERE.
SO THE IDEA WOULD BE THAT MAYBE WE WOULD TRY TO COMBINE THE ENVIRONMENTAL CO-OP THAT WE NOW TRIBUTE ABOUT $70,000 TO, UH, WITH THAT PROGRAM AND HAVE ONE, UH, ENVIRONMENTAL CO-OP THAT WOULD SERVE THE WHOLE COUNTY THAT WOULD DO THE UH, RECYCLING.
AND SO THAT'S KIND OF WHERE WE'RE WE.
LEMME OBJECT THIS WHILE WE'RE HAVING THIS CONVERSATION.
UH, HOW WELL DO YOU KNOW TERRY THOMAS IS HIS WORD GOOD? YEAH.
TERRY SAID THAT HE WOULD GET VOLUNTEERS TO TAKE CARE OF THAT FOR THE CO-OP ON FRIDAY, SATURDAY ON TWO DAYS A WEEK FOR THE ENVIRONMENTAL CO.
AND WHO IS TERRY JOHNSON? OH, TERRY.
USED TO WORK AT PALM MARY FORD.
I LIVED IN PRAIRIE MILL WIFE IN THERE 67 YEARS.
CAN HE INSTRUMENTAL DOWN THERE? END WORLD.
HE SAID HE WOULD KEEP, THAT'S WHAT HE TOLD WE DO THAT THE COOP FISHER OR 70 KIDS THAT THEY SERVE.
AND IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, ABOUT 117 OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT FROM COUNTY.
THE MAJORITY OF THE KIDS ARE FROM COUNTY, UH, I'D LIKE TO INCREASE WHAT WE GIVE THEM.
UH, THIS IS WHERE THEY'LL APPOINT THE, UH, COURT APPOINTED CHILD ADVOCATE ADVOCATE AND THEY'RE ALWAYS LOOKING FOR VOLUNTEERS AND THEY'RE REALLY TRYING TO GET MORE VOLUNTEERS FROM C COUNTY.
UH, BUT I'D LIKE TO CORRECT ME, WE PRESET TO 20,000.
UH, THAT'S, UH, I JUST THINK THAT'S MONEY WELL SPENT SINCE THEY THE VAST, THE MAJORITY OF THEIR KIDS, UH, COME FROM, UH, KAMAN COUNTY.
SO YOU WANT TO INCREASE THAT? YEAH, WE'RE GOING TO GO UP FROM 15, 20 20.
THAT SHOULD BE, I GUESS, CAREFULLY NOW.
WE'LL JUST ROLL OVER FROM THIS YEAR.
SO DO WE KNOW WHAT WE PAID LAST YEAR? WE PAID LAST YEAR WE PAID $10,066.
HOW MUCH IS IT FOR EMPLOYEES? $12 A YEAR.
I WAS THINKING MORE THAN 6,000.
BUT WE, IT'S WEIRD 'CAUSE WE PAY IT FROM MARCH TO MARCH.
THE WAY THE CONTRACT WORKS, IT'S LIKE, CAN YOU GET WITH KAREN AND KW AND FIND OUT AND JUST GET US A GOOD BUDGET NUMBER IN THERE THEN? BECAUSE IT MAY BE, WE DON'T NEED THE 12,000 THAT WE BUDGET.
YOU DON'T NEED THE 12,000 FOR A YEAR.
BUT I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH TO BUDGET
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BECAUSE IT'S ALL DIFFERENT YEARS.LIKE, BECAUSE YOU'RE GONNA PAY OR WHATEVER, WHATEVER INVOICE THEY SEND US IS WHAT WE PAYING.
WE JUST PAY YEAR ONCE A YEAR AND WE DO IT ON ALL, I DON'T EVEN GIVE THEM AN OPTION.
SO NEXT YEAR WE'LL GET ANOTHER ONE.
SOME, IF WE ADD INVOICES, THEY JUST GO UP A LITTLE BIT ONLY BASED ON OUR EMPLOYEE BECAUSE I JUST, I AUTOMATICALLY ENROLLED THEM.
I DON'T GIVE 'EM AN OPTION BECAUSE IT'S EASIER.
THAT'S NOT GONNA GO FAR FROM THAT NUMBER.
THE UH, KAUFMAN COUNTY DO WHAT? I GIVE YOU LIKE 5,001 FOR YEAH.
WE HAVEN'T UH, HAVEN'T PAYING MONEY THIS YEAR.
WHAT, WHAT'S THE DEAL ON THAT? I'M TRYING TO REMEMBER.
IT'S SOMETHING I WAS LOOKING UP AT THAT THE PAYMENT IN 2015 AND IT WAS BASED OFF THE EMAIL FROM, UH, I THINK IT WAS THE EMAIL FROM RAY CLARK.
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WAS JUST THE LADY, LADY CAME, THE LADY CAME TO THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT TO ACCEPT THE CHECK.
SO WAS THAT JUST ONE WELL, AS THIS, THIS DEAL OR SOMETHING? YEAH.
SOMEBODY MAY HAVE GIVEN US A DONATION OR SOMETHING FOR THAT.
WELL, LET'S PUT A QUESTION MARK FOR THE TIME BEING THAT WE CAN DO IT.
THAT MAY BE SOMETHING PAM MAY HAVE GOT, HAS SOME INFORMATION ON.
SHE'S NOT HERE TODAY, SO CONTINGENCY, I'M NOT SURE WHERE THAT CAME FROM.
WELL WE HAD CARRIED OVER FROM SOMETHING.
THAT WAS BECAUSE, UH, WE COVERED THE TWO TRANSPORT OFFICERS AND WE DIDN'T COVER THE SHERIFF ON THE RIGHTS.
ESSENTIALLY THAT JUST KIND OF TRANSFERRED OVER FROM WHAT WAS, WHAT THE CURRENT YEAR WAS, WHAT WAS LEFT.
ON THE, UH, UNCLAIMED CAPITAL CREDIT, UH, OKAY.
NEEDS TO BE CHANGED TO 114,700.
I'M TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT THOSE PAYMENTS THAT WE'VE MADE TO THE, OKAY.
NOW WE DON'T KNOW, HAVE WE HAVEN'T RECEIVED NOTIFICATION YET? HAVE WE ALEX WE'RE GONNA RECEIVE NO, THIS IS THE CARRYOVER.
AND WE DIDN'T SPEND THAT, UH, ALL OF IT BECAUSE YOU REMEMBER WE GAVE, UH, SOME TO THE CHILDREN'S SHELTER AND THEY WERE GOING TO BE ABLE TO CIRCLE DRIVE AND ALL THAT IN THERE.
AND SO BOBBY, I THINK'S BEEN OUT AND NOW THAT THE STATE IS REDOING, THEY HAVE ENOUGH ROOM.
SO THAT WHOLE THING'S KIND OF ON THE BACK BURN UNTIL THEY GET THEY THE, AND, BUT I THOUGHT SOMETHING HAD TO DO WITH THE STATE WAS GONNA DO A NEW DRIVE WAY INTO THE ENTRANCE.
SO THE, THE CIRCLE DRIVE IS CAN'T DO IT.
COULD IT BE THEY DO NEED SOME PARKING? IS THAT SOMETHING OR DO YOU YOU NOT THAT MONEY WE NOT GIVEN TO THE SHELTER.
IT'S STILL, THAT WAS SOME OF THAT CAPITAL CREDIT MONEY, YOU KNOW, UP FROM THE CO-OPS.
IT HAD TO BE SPENT, BUT IT WAS DESIGNATED FOR THAT PURPOSE.
IT SPENT, IT WAS THAT, UM, FOR THE CHILDREN'S ADVOCACY CENTER THAT WAS APPROVED FOR THAT POSITION? THEY WERE, THEY WERE HIRING A COUNSELOR AND, UH, SOMETHING ELSE, I DON'T REMEMBER.
BUT THAT HAS BEEN DISTRIBUTED.
THERE'S, THERE'S ONE MORE PAYMENT TO BE DISTRIBUTED, BUT THAT 114,000 TAKES THAT ONE MORE PAYMENT INTO ACCOUNT BECAUSE IT WAS A, IT WAS DECIDED THAT ONE QUARTER.
YEAH, IT TO, AND WE SHOULD BE SOON GETTING OUR ALLOTMENT, I THINK FOR THIS YEAR, BUT IT MAY BE $500 OR MAYBE LIKE IT WAS LAST YEAR, 160 SOMETHING, IF I REMEMBER RIGHT.
THE NEXT ITEM IS THE A TS THING.
UH, AND, UH, I THINK EARLY IS GONNA BE BRINGING Y'ALL UP TO DATE ON THAT.
I WHAT TO TELL YOU ABOUT REVENUE.
UH, BUT THAT WILL BE SOMETHING I THINK JUDGE WILEY AND THE DA'S OFFICE WILL BE GIVING FRESH INFORMATION ON HERE PRETTY QUICK SO FAR FOR REVENUE FOR THAT WE'VE RECEIVED HUNDRED 76,000 FOR
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THE YEAR MINUS HUNDRED 76 MINUS SALES EXPENDITURES.SO THE CLEAR AMOUNT IS HOW MUCH? A HUNDRED THOUSAND, GIVE OR TAKE 100,000.
THAT OTHER ONE, THE DJ DX? YEAH, THAT WAS SOME EQUIPMENT FROM A GRANT.
GRANT, ONE YEAR GRANT THE OKAY.
FROM THE, UM, JUSTICE JUSTICE CENTER.
AND THEN THE CONSTABLE SAFETY EQUIPMENT BUS FOR THE BEST, BUT THAT WAS THE GRANT, SO IT NEEDS TO BE ZERO OUT ALSO.
AND THEY LEGAL ING ALSO? YES, THAT WAS ONE.
QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? I THINK WE'RE, UH, I EXPECT THAT WE'LL, UH, MEET AGAIN LATER THIS MONTH.
WE'LL TRY TO GET SOMETHING, UH, TO YOU SOON AS WE GET A BETTER IDEA FROM REVENUE FROM THE, IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING, BUT THEY'RE HAVING HEARINGS NOW, YOU KNOW, AND, UH, WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ON SALARIES OR ANYTHING POINT WHERE WE'RE, AND YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO GIVE INSURANCE.
I EMAILED HER EARLIER SO SHE'S ABLE TO GET IT.
UM, DID YOU WANNA TALK ABOUT THE LONGEVITY SPEND? THE, OR UH, LEMME JUST PUT THIS IN YOUR, IN YOUR, UH, IN YOUR CPU WHERE YOU THINK ABOUT THE, UH, WE CUT OUT THE LONGEVITY, UH, PAY BACK IN 2011 AND WE DID THAT BEGINNING OCTOBER 1ST THOUSAND 11.
EVERYBODY THAT WAS ELIGIBLE TO GET LONGEVITY AS OF THAT DATE, WE GETTING YOUR PRIOR DATE PRIOR TO OCTOBER 1ST, 21, IT WAS ABOUT A MILLION DOLLARS THAT WE WERE DISTRIBUTING IN LONG.
BUT BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T GIVEN LAST FIVE YEARS AMOUNT ABOUT FIVE, UH, I ASKED LAURIE, UH, TO GO THROUGH AND WELL TO SEE WHAT IT WOULD TAKE IF WE RE UH, RE-UP LONGEVITY BEGINNING NEXT BUDGET YEAR, OCTOBER 1ST.
AND THE NUMBER WAS, UH, SURPRISINGLY LOW FOR THE FISCAL YEAR IS ABOUT ALMOST 20,000.
AND THAT WOULD BECAUSE THE PEOPLE THAT WERE ELIGIBLE FOR LONGEVITY ARE ALREADY GETTING IT.
AND SO THAT WOULD BE, IF WE DECIDED TO READ UP LONGEVITY, THAT WOULD COST US HIS FIRST BUDGET YEAR ABOUT 20,000.
SO, UH, THAT THE PERSONAL, THE REASON FOR OUR LONGEVITY IS GET PEOPLE, UH, YOU KNOW, KNOW THAT THEY'LL, REGARDLESS OF WHAT HAPPENS ON AN ANNUAL RAISE, THEY KNOW EVERY FIVE YEARS, IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, THEY'RE GONNA GET 3% GOES FIVE YEARS TO 6%, FIVE YEARS AGO WAS TO 9%.
SO THAT'S WHAT IT WOULD BE IF WE DECIDED TO REIMPLEMENT, UH, LONGEVITY.
UH, WE'VE NOT DONE THAT YET, BUT THAT'S SOMETHING THINK ABOUT.
I WAS SURPRISED IT MORE THAN THAT, BUT WELL, IF YOU'RE, AND I WOULD SAY TOO, IF YOU'RE GOING TO DO IT NOW WOULD BE A PERFECT TIME TO DO IT BECAUSE THERE WOULD BE NO GAPS IN ANYBODY'S.
SO IT WOULDN'T MESS UP ANY CALCULATIONS.
IT WOULD BE BECAUSE THOSE EMPLOYEES THAT WERE HIRED OCTOBER 1ST, 2011, OCTOBER 1ST, 2016 IS WHEN THERE HAD BEEN FIVE YEARS BE ELIGIBLE.
UM, SO IT WOULD BE TIME TO DECIDE TO DO IT.
NOBODY WOULD'VE LOST ANYTHING.
THEY WOULD BE ELIGIBLE TO GO ON IT THIS NEXT YEAR.
SO I GUESS THAT SAYS IF WE HIRE PEOPLE, I'M GONNA STICK AROUND VERY LONG.
WHAT'S THE TOTAL NUMBER OF EMPLOYEES THAT THAT WOULD BE? WHO ELIGIBLE FOR THAT? UM, ALL OF IT.
THE WAY THEY'RE CURRENTLY GETTING IT.
BUT I MEAN, THE ONES THAT NOW THERE'S 30 EMPLOYEES THAT WOULD BE ELIGIBLE OCTOBER 1ST THAT WITHOUT LONGEVITY WOULD LOSE OUT ON THAT.
THEY'RE NOT ELIGIBLE OCTOBER 1ST.
IT'S JUST IN HIS NEXT PHYSICAL YEAR.
LIKE IF THEY WERE HIRED IN MAY, THEY WOULDN'T GET IT UNTIL MAY, 2017.
BUT THERE'S 30 THAT, THAT WOULD AFFECT.
UM, I DON'T HAVE THE NUMBERS OF HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE GETTING LONGEVITY
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NOW.30 BE ELIGIBLE IN THE NEXT PHYSICAL YEAR.
YEAH, BUT THE ONES THAT ARE GETTING IT, I MEAN THE ONES THAT ARE HOLDING THAT, THAT ARE GETTING IT NOW, THEY WOULD BE ELIGIBLE.
THEY'RE ALREADY GETTING, THEY'RE JUST NOT GOING UP THREE.
SO I THOUGHT THEY WERE JUST NO, NO, THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT.
AS LONG AS YOU KEEP, I THINK THE MAIN THING WAS THAT IF YOU LEAVE, YOU START OVER.
AND THAT WAS NOT, THAT WAS NOT THE PREVIOUS WAY IT WAS DONE.
IT WAS LIKE SO MANY TIMES BRIDGE IN STUFF AND MESHED STUFF.
I THINK KEEPING THE POLICY THAT IF YOU LEAVE, YOU COME BACK AND YOU START AS A NEW EMPLOYEE, KEEPING THAT ALSO KEEPS THE HANDLE ON IT AS WELL BECAUSE IT MAY NEED COME BACK AFTER TWO MONTHS AND YEAH.
THAT'S BRINGING THE PRICES SO LOW.
AND AGAIN, WHEN WE, WHEN WE ELIMINATED THAT BACK IN THOUSAND 11, IT WAS COSTING THE COUNTY ABOUT A MILLION A YEAR.
AND NOW I THINK IT'S DOWN TO 500,000 BECAUSE WHEN PEOPLE RETIRE OR THEY, YOU KNOW, LEAVE OR WHATEVER, YOU KNOW, IT YEARS WELL LOST HALF OF THE PEOPLE THAT GETTING ALONG.
I'VE BEEN HERE FOUR YEARS AND THERE'S BEEN A LARGE
UM, WE HAVE KWS GONNA CASH YOU OUT A REPORT THAT WE RAN ON THE COMMERCIAL, UH, IN 2015 FISCAL YEAR.
THEY BROUGHT IN $18,804, UH, FOR, UH, 2016 THROUGH MAY.
THEY BROUGHT IN 31,000 905 50.
BOTH OF THOSE ARE ACTUALLY THROUGH MAY.
SO THEY'RE COMPARED BOTH FIVE THE MONTH BY THE MONTH, SO OCTOBER THROUGH MAY.
SO THERE HAS BEEN A PRETTY BIG INCREASE IN ONE AND THREE, TWO AND FOUR.
THEY MOVED AIRPLANE OUTTA FOUR OR MOVED IT UP IN WHAT LOOKS LIKE.
I, ALL I KNOW IS THAT THAT'S THE REPORT I'M ABLE TO WRITE JUST FOR THOSE KIND OF FEES.
IT LOOKS LIKE ONE IN THREE IS BRINGING IN MOST ON THAT TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION EARLIER.
BUT IT DOESN'T, IT DOESN'T TELL YOU, UH, WHAT IT IS.
IT SAYS MARK, I MEAN THAT, THAT'S, IT DOESN'T SAY A SINGLE GARBAGE TRUCK.
WELL, YOU CAN SEE THE, HERE'S THE, THE NUMBER RIGHT NEXT TO, UH, UNDER GROSS.
IT'LL SAY SAY AMOUNT AND THE NUMBER, THAT'S THE NUMBER OF THOSE FINES THAT WERE CHARGED FOR, FOR EACH LOOK BASICALLY THE NUMBER OF CASES.
THAT'S 40, THAT'S 10 0 1 20 15 THROUGH 5 31 16.
YOU WANT ME TO CLEAN YOUR GLASSES? I 15.
BUT BOTH OF THOSE ARE EIGHT MONTH PERIODS.
I JUST WANTED A STABLE, COMPARABLE, DOWN STARTS IN OCTOBER.
DO YOU WANNA MAKE A DECISION TODAY ON THE, UH, DO YOU WANT, UH, THEM TO START, UH, THINKING ABOUT DOING REIMPLEMENTING? THE, UH, WHAT AM I TRYING TO SAY? LONGEVITY.
CAN WE MAKE THAT DECISION WE DON'T HAVE TODAY CAN GIVE US SOME NUMBERS? ABOUT 20,000? WELL, I MEAN,
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ANYBODY AGAINST THE I'VE GOT WOUND.AND SECOND, I WE OUGHT STAY HERE.
IN CASE SOMEBODY ONLY FAVOR SAY A JIMMY.
UM, JOE CAN JIMMY JOE, YOU DON'T MAKE THOSE DONUT.