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ALRIGHT, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER.

IT'S 10:00 AM IT'S ABOUT 10:17 AM I APPRECIATE EVERYBODY BEING HERE.

THIS IS TODAY WORKSHOP MEETING OF THE COURT, AND TODAY, TUESDAY, AUGUST 23RD.

AND THE PRIMARY PURPOSE OF THIS HEARSAY IS TO REVIEW AND DISCUSS THE PROPOSED 20 16 20 17 BUDGET FOR ALL DEPARTMENTS OF COUNTY OPERATIONS, INCLUDING REVENUES, EXPENDITURES, AND PERSONNEL COMPENSATION.

SO THE MEETING IS WIDE OPEN FOR PRIMARILY TO DISCUSS THE, UH, THE BUDGET.

AND, UH, I BELIEVE WE'VE, SINCE YOU ONE LATE YESTERDAY AFTERNOON.

AND THEN WE ALSO HAD A HARD COPY OF THE SAME THING HERE THIS MORNING FOR YOU WHERE YOU WOULD, UH, HAVE IT.

AND, UH, K DEBBIE, I'M GOING ASK YOU TO AND KAREN BOTH TO KIND OF GO OVER SOME OF THE CHANGES THAT HAVE OCCURRED SINCE THE LAST, UH, I THINK WE HAD A SHEET IN HERE THAT, THAT, UH, THAT DOES THAT.

AND REMEMBER NOW THAT THIS, THIS IS A WORKSHOP.

WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT FINALIZING ANYTHING TODAY.

IT'S JUST A, UH, WORKSHOP TO DISCUSS THE BUDGET AND WHERE WE WOULD LIKE TO GO WITH IT.

SO THEY DO, OKAY.

IF YOU WANNA LOOK AT THE PAGE TITLE, GENERAL DIVISIONS NUMBER TWO CHANGES.

UH, THIS IS AS OF YESTERDAY ON REVENUE SIDE, WE'VE GOT INCREASE IN THE C GRANT.

THIS IS MORE OF A CORRECTION.

WE RECEIVED, UH, ACTUAL BUDGET DOCUMENT, UM, THAT HE SUBMITTED FOR THAT AND REALIZED THAT THE NUMBER I HAD IN THERE WAS INCORRECT.

SO THAT INCREASE ABOUT, UM, ALSO RECEIVED THE WATER RACK FUNDS.

THE, UM, INCIDENT MASTER AN INCREASE OF TWO.

COULD YOU MOVE DOWN HERE WITHOUT A LOT OF TROUBLE? TURN THE MICROPHONE ON.

WE CAN PUSH THE BUTTON OVER THERE.

START OVER.

START WITH, I THINK YOU JUST KIND TAKE, OKAY.

UM, THE NEXT ONE IS THE LIME FUNDS.

IT'S A PASS THROUGH GRANT, SO YOU'LL SEE AN EXPENDITURE OF THE EXACT SAME DOLLAR AMOUNT, 275,006.

SO TOTAL INCREASE BEEN 2 75 7 9 ON REVENUE SIDE.

THE NEXT PORTION IS THE EXPENDITURES.

THE FIRST ITEM IS THE COUNTY JUDGE LONG.

UM, I HAD THAT INCLUDED ON THE SALARY SPREADSHEET, BUT I FORGOT TO ACTUALLY INCLUDE IT IN THE BUDGET DOCUMENT.

SO IT WAS JUST INCLUDED INTO THE BUDGET DOCUMENT.

THE NEXT ONE IS ANGIE'S RAISE TO EXEMPT STATUS OF $4,842.

NOW THAT'S NOT FOUR, SORRY, 4,842 TO HER BASE SALARY.

THAT'S THE BASE.

SOCIAL SECURITY AND RETIREMENT.

SO THAT'S EVERYTHING ADDED TOGETHER.

THAT'S EVERYTHING.

THAT'S THE, YES.

THAT'S, THAT'S THE TOTAL INCREASE TO WHAT IS THE BASE RATE? UH, LOOK AT HIS, UM, THE TOTAL IS 47,176.

NO, I'M TALKING ABOUT THE RAISE.

OH, THE, THE RAISE OF THE BASE RATE.

I DON'T OFF TOP HEAD.

GIMME A SECOND.

IT DOES.

EVERYBODY, DOES EVERYBODY LOOK AT, I UNDERSTAND THE, UH, ISSUE WE GOT INTO WITH THE US DEPARTMENT OF LABOR ABOUT, UH, OVERTIME AND, UH, UH, SOME PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN EXEMPT, BUT WHAT THE US DEPARTMENT OF LABOR DID EARLIER, MAY HAVE TO HAVE, EXPLAIN THIS USED TO BE THE EXEMPT AMOUNT.

THE MINIMUM YOU HAD TO MAKE WAS 23,000 AND SOMETHING.

AND IT'S INCREASED.

IT DOUBLED TO 47.

7 4 76 4 7 6.

AND, UH, I'VE TALKED TO ANOTHER, UH, NUMBER OF JUDGES AROUND THE STATE THAT ARE HAVING TO KIND OF STRUGGLE WITH THIS.

BUT IT IS A, UH, IT IS A FEDERAL REQUIREMENT THAT PEOPLE THAT ARE TRULY EXEMPT, UH, DO HAVE TO RECEIVE THIS, THIS AMOUNT.

QUESTION I HAVE.

WHO, WHO'S EXEMPT

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SPECIFICALLY THAT? JUST THESE PEOPLE HERE ON THIS SHEET THAT THE ONE THAT ARE EXEMPT, THE ONLY ONES THAT HAVE BEEN RAISED IN ORDER TO BE CONS.

THE NEXT QUESTION IS, WHY ARE THEY EXEMPTED? DO THEY NEED TO BE EXEMPTED OR CAN WEEM? I THINK LORI CAN ANSWER, I THINK LAURA CAN ANSWER IT.

WHO, WHO? BY LEGISLATIVE LAW, WHO HAS TO BE EXEMPTED.

RIGHT.

THERE'S CRITERIA ON WHO CAN BE EXEMPT.

WHO CAN'T BE EXEMPT.

AND THERE'S, UM, SEVERAL DIFFERENT EXEMPTIONS LIKE ATTORNEYS ARE EXEMPT FOR PROFESSIONAL REASONS.

UM, MOST OF OURS FALL UNDER AN ADMINISTRATIVE EXEMPTION.

AND THERE ARE, UM, THREE OR FOUR BULLETS THAT THEY HAVE TO MEET AND IT'S AN AND NOT AN OR.

AND THAT FIRST ONE IS THEIR SALARY MUST BE SUCH AND SUCH.

SO WE CAN ALWAYS CLASSIFY AN EMPLOYEE AS NON-EXEMPT THAT HAS EXEMPT DUTIES.

BUT YOU CANNOT CLASSIFY SOMEONE AS EXEMPT WHO HAS NON-EXEMPT DUTIES.

SO YOU LOOK AT THEIR, YOU LOOK AT THE POSITION, NOT THE PERSON, AND FIND OUT AND NOT THE TITLE.

YOU COULD COULD CALL SOMEONE A CEO AND THEY HAVE SECRETARY OF DUTIES AND THEY WOULD BE NON-EXEMPT.

SO THEIR TITLE IS IRRELEVANT.

UM, AND THEN YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT WHAT THEIR JOB RESPONSIBILITIES ARE, WHAT THEY ALL ENTAIL, WHETHER THEY BE EXEMPT OR NON-EXEMPT.

AND SO WE HAD ABOUT, I THINK THERE WAS EIGHT OR NINE, UM, EMPLOYEES THAT WE CURRENTLY HAD CLASSIFIED AS EXEMPT, THAT FAILED BELOW THE, THE NEW SALARY, UM, BASIS TEST FOR CLASSIFYING THEM AS EXEMPT.

DO YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT THAT AND MAKE THE DECISION WHETHER, UM, IF YOU WANT THEM TO STAY EXEMPT, YOU'VE GOTTA BUMP THEM UP TO THAT SALARY.

IF YOU DON'T, THEN THEY CAN STAY WHERE THEY'RE AT AND BE RECLASSIFIED AS NON EXEMPT.

AND THE ONLY THING NON-EXEMPT AND EXEMPT MEANS IS OVERTIME PAY.

SURE.

THAT'S IT.

IT DOESN'T AFFECT THEIR BENEFITS.

DOESN'T AFFECT THEIR JOB RESPONSIBILITIES.

DOESN'T AFFECT ANYTHING EXCEPT THEY WOULD RECEIVE PAY THAT THEY WORKED OVER 40.

SO A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT YOU HAVE EXEMPT, YOU HAVE AN EXEMPT FOR A REASON THAT THEY USUALLY TYPICALLY WORK OUTSIDE OF THOSE NORMAL 40 HOURS.

AND SO YOU DON'T WANNA PAY THEM OVERTIME BECAUSE THEY'RE AN EXEMPT POSITION.

YOU EXPECT THEM JUST TO DO THEIR JOB KIND OF THING.

THAT'S KIND OF WHAT THAT DEPARTMENT OF LABOR.

AND SO WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF LABOR RULE CAME DOWN, THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT WERE, YOU KNOW, BEING CLASSIFIED AS EXEMPT BECAUSE OF THEIR SALARY.

AND SO NOW THEY'VE UPED THAT AND THAT WILL CONTINUE TO INCREASE.

THEY JUST SET THE NEW RULE.

THE NEW RULE IS NOT JUST, UM, 'CAUSE THIS HASN'T BEEN CHANGED IN YEARS, SO IT WAS AT, IT WAS AT 23,000 AND SOMETHING.

AND THE NEW RULE IS THEY'RE BASING IT ON, UM, EVERY THREE YEARS IT'S GONNA BE REEVALUATED AND THEY'RE BASING IT ON, UM, I THINK IT'S LIKE THE 40TH PERCENTILE OF THE LOWEST PAID, WHATEVER.

SO IT'S GONNA KEEP INCREASING.

SO THAT'S SOMETHING YOU'RE GONNA, IF YOU WANT AN EMPLOYED STAY EXEMPT, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO KEEP INCREASING THEM.

SO YOU'RE TELLING ME THESE POSITIONS, IF REGARDS WHO THEY ARE, THESE POSITIONS HAVE TO BE EXEMPT THAT WE HAVE ON THIS SHEET HERE.

NO POSITION HAS TO BE EXEMPT.

NO.

OKAY.

NO, THAT'S, THAT'S NOT A CHOICE.

ALRIGHT.

BUT BY LAW WE CAN ONLY MAKE CERTAIN ONES EXEMPT.

YOU CAN ONLY THEY CAN, THEY HAVE TO MEET A CRITERIA.

THEY HAVE TO MEET.

SO WHICH POSITION ARE THOSE THAT MEET 'EM? THAT HAS TO BE EXEMPT.

NO POSITION HAS TO BE EXEMPT.

NO POSITION.

BUT YOU'RE SAYING YOU WOULD HAVE, YOU HAVE TO BE BY, YOU HAVE TO MEET THE CRITERIA TO BE OKAY.

I GET THAT.

WHEN WE GET WELL, AND A LOT OF PEOPLE WANT TO SAY, OH, THIS IS MY TITLE, I'M GONNA BE EXEMPT.

AND THAT'S, YOU CANNOT LOOK AT A JOB TITLE.

IT'S JOB RESPONSIBILITIES.

THAT'S RESPONSIBILITY.

I TELL YOU THE BIGGEST THING WOULD'VE HELPED ALL OF US MAKE THOSE DECISIONS WOULD'VE BEEN THE DIFFERENCE IN THE MONEY AND HOW MANY HOURS OF OVERTIME THAT WOULD'VE MADE.

YOU KNOW WHAT I'M ASKING? I'M SAYING MAYBE MAKE 40,000.

WE HAD TO RAISE YOU $7,000.

HOW MANY DAYS OF OVERTIME, WHICH RATE IS HOW MANY HOURS DOES THAT SUBSTITUTE THAT YOU HAVE TO MAKE THAT SEVEN? UH, THE OTHER ISSUE, DID I READ THAT, UH, IN THREE YEARS, IT'S GONNA CHANGE THE 52.

IT'S, SO GUYS, Y'ALL GOTTA, WELL, THAT'S THE POINT WHERE YOU, BECAUSE YOU CAN CONTROL WHAT YOU'RE PAYING.

RIGHT.

BY ALLOWING NOT WORK OR WE HARD ONE SLOW DOWN, ALL THESE ARE ALREADY EXEMPT, RIGHT? I MEAN, THESE POSITIONS, I DON'T KNOW WHAT POSITION I'M LOOKING AT, BUT THEY'RE NOT MAKING ANYBODY EXEMPT.

IT'S NOT ALREADY EXEMPT.

THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING.

ALL THE ONES THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT UP THE, YOU'RE UPING THE SALARIES TO KEEP THEM CLASSIFIED AS EXEMPT.

NO, BUT I'M JUST ASKING ALREADY EXEMPT, THEY'RE ALREADY CLASSIFIED AS EXEMPT.

YOU'RE JUST UPPING THE SALARIES TO CONTINUE THAT EXEMPTION.

RIGHT.

BECAUSE IF YOU DON'T UP THE SALARY, THEY, THEY HAVE TO BYLAW YOU.

RECLASSIFY AS AND THERE IN THE COURTS WOULD BE, YOU MIGHT, UH, DISCUSS A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE COURT COORDINATORS AS COMPARED TO THE COURT

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COURTS.

YES.

SO THERE WAS, UM, THERE WAS, UM, CURRENTLY WE HAVE COURT COORDINATORS AND COURT REPORTERS IN THE COURTHOUSE.

SO THE TWO COUNTY PRINT LAW AND THEN THE TWO DISTRICT JUDGES.

AND IN THOSE, SORRY, I'M SPEAKING MY .

UM, IN THOSE DEPARTMENTS, SO THERE'S FOUR, THERE'S FOUR COURT COORDINATORS AND FOUR COURT REPORTERS.

OKAY.

RIGHT NOW WE HAVE, UM, THEIR ALL EIGHT ARE CLASSIFIED AS EXEMPT.

OKAY.

UM, THERE WAS A BIG DISCUSSION THAT CAME DOWN THAT COURT REPORTERS ARE NOT EXEMPT EMPLOYEES.

SO WE HAVE, I HAD A MEETING WITH THE JUDGES THE OTHER DAY.

EXPLAIN THAT TO THEM.

LET THEM KNOW THAT COURT REPORTERS PER DEPARTMENT OF LABOR STANDARDS AND DEPARTMENT OF LABOR OPINIONS, THOSE ARE NON EXEMPTIVE VOICE.

SO WE HAVE RECLASSIFIED THEM AS, UM, NON-EVENT.

AND, BUT THE COURT COORDINATORS IN THE DEPARTMENT OF LABOR SAYS COURT COORDINATORS ARE EXEMPTED VOICE, THEIR DUTIES NEED THAT THERE'S TWO DEPARTMENT OF LABOR OPINIONS.

IT SAYS ALL THEIR JOB RESPONSIBILITIES CLASSIFY AS EXEMPT.

AND SO, UM, TO KEEP THEM AS EXEMPT, THEY WANTED TO UP THEIR SALARIES.

SO THOSE FOUR ARE ONE THAT, UM, WANT TO UP THEIR SALARIES.

SO THEY'RE QUALIFIED TO BE EXEMPT OR THEY'RE MANDATED TO BE EXEMPTED, THEY'RE QUALIFIED TO BE EXEMPT, QUALIFIED, NOT MANDATED.

NOBODY, NOBODY'S QUALIFIED.

YEAH.

ALRIGHT.

THEY'RE QUALIFIED.

SO THEY WANTED TO KEEP THEM AS QUALIFIED.

SO THEY WANTED TO OFFER SALARIES.

OKAY.

SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO YEAH, YOU DO NOT HAVE TO.

WE CAN GET IN TROUBLE WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF LABOR FOR CLASSIFYING SOMEONE AS NON-EXEMPT.

THAT SHOULD BE CLASSIFIED AS EXEMPT.

OKAY.

YOU CAN GET IN TROUBLE IF YOU CLASSIFY SOMEONE AS EXEMPT WHO SHOULD BE NON-EXEMPT BECAUSE THAT EMPLOYEE IS LOSING THAT OVERTIME THING.

RIGHT.

RIGHT.

OKAY.

OKAY.

SO LIKE RIGHT NOW, UH, THEY'RE NOT EXEMPT, UH, IS THAT RIGHT? NO, THEY, THEY'RE EXEMPT.

THEY'RE ALL EXEMPT.

BUT THEY'RE, THE THRESHOLD GOES UP.

YOU WANT KEEP YOU PAID ONE THE COURT COORDINATORS SOME OVERTIME MONIES FOR, UH, EXTRA TIME.

WE RECENTLY DID THAT BECAUSE, UM, WHEN SHE WAS RECLASSIFIED, BACK WHEN WE STARTED THE TIMEKEEPING SYSTEM, UM, SOME OF THEM WERE EXEMPT AND SOME OF THEM WERE NON-EXEMPT.

SO WE CLEANED THAT UP.

AND AT THAT TIME, UM, THAT COURT COORDINATOR WAS CLASSIFIED AS NON EXEMPT.

WE MOVED HER TO EXEMPT FOR ALL THE OTHER ONES AND SHE HAD A HEFTY COMP TIME BALANCE.

AND, UM, SHE AGREED TO NOT GET THAT MONEY PAID OUT TO HER BECAUSE THE BUDGET, THEY COULD AVOID THE BUDGET.

AND SO NOW THAT THE BUDGET WAS BACK WHERE IT NEEDED TO BE, WE HAD TO PAY HER THAT TIME.

SO SHE RECENTLY RECEIVED, THAT WAS TIME THAT SHE EARNED PRIOR TO BEING CLASSIFIED AS A EXEMPT.

AND THAT WAS JUST COMP COMP TIME ON THE BOOKS.

IT'S GONNA BE UP TO THE DEPARTMENT HEAD, WHICH IS THE JUDGE TO CONTROL THAT OVERTIME.

THE COPY.

YES.

THAT ONE, THAT COURT COORDINATOR.

THAT WAS A DIFFERENT SITUATION.

SO THAT'S NOT NORMAL.

THAT'S NOT NORMAL.

SHE HAD THAT MUCH COMP TIME PRIOR TO BEING EXEMPT.

RIGHT.

I UNDERSTAND THAT.

YES, IT, YES.

SO, BUT WHY DIDN'T SHE ACCRUE THAT MUCH? DO WE KNOW? I MEAN THAT'S, YOU KNOW, HE TELL HER TO STAY THERE AND FINISH PROBABLY BECAUSE IT WASN'T BEING KEPT OVER WITH.

RIGHT.

AND THAT WAS PRIOR TO US HAVING THE ELECTRONIC SYSTEM, IT WAS ALL PEN AND PAPER.

NOT SAYING SHE'S DISHONEST.

I'M NOT TRYING TO SAY THAT.

IT'S JUST NO, IT JUST WASN'T.

YEAH.

AND SHE'S ALSO, THAT SHE'S ALSO BEEN HERE A REALLY LONG TIME.

SO THAT ACCUMULATION A LONG PERIOD OF TIME SHORT.

AND THAT MIGHT HAVE BEEN WAY PAINTER INSTEAD OF, I HAVEN'T IT ON THE, SO YOU JUST SENT OUT A DOCUMENT JULY, UH, THAT TALKS ABOUT OVERTIME PAYING EVERYTHING.

I COPIED OFF IF YOU'D LIKE ONE, THEY HAD A WEBINAR ABOUT IT.

MM-HMM.

YEAH.

AND IT, IT DOES, IT DOES A PRETTY GOOD JOB EXPLAINING, BUT IT'S STILL, YEAH, IT'S DEPARTMENT LABOR AND IT'S AFFECTING NOT JUST COUNTIES, IT'S, IT'S ALL OVER, OVER THE COUNTRY.

I MEAN, SMALL BUSINESSES ARE HAVING TO ADJUST RETAIL STORES, RESTAURANTS, EVERYBODY'S HAVING TO ADJUST IT.

IT'S GONNA CREATE A HARDSHIP.

UM, IF Y'ALL HAVE TO MAKE A DECISION, IF Y'ALL WANT TO INCREASE YOUR SALARY TO MEET THAT OR NOT.

IN THE PAST, THE WAY THAT NUMBER WAS A SET NUMBER, NO MATTER WHAT THAT NUMBER WAS A SET NUMBER.

AND NOW THEY LOOKED AT IT AND THEY CHANGED IT.

IT'S, IT'S GONNA BE BASED ON A PERCENTAGE.

SO IT COULD BE MORE, IT COULD BE LESS THAN THAT 51 OR 53, WHATEVER THEY'RE PROPOSING.

SO BECAUSE IT'S BASED ON, YEAH.

I CAN

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TELL YOU COUNTY JUDGE LISTERV, I MEAN THIS HAS BEEN A HOT TOPIC.

I KNOW SOME OF YOUR SCHOOLS SEMINAR THROUGH A LOT ALL DEAL IT FOR WELL, SOME OF 'EM COULDN'T AFFORD IT.

SOME SOME CAN'T AFFORD IT.

THEY WEREN'T PAY AS HIGH AS THEY WERE.

YEAH.

30,000.

THEY CAN'T GO TO, I DON'T WHETHER IT VARIES BY COUNTY SIZE OR ENTITY SIZE OR NOT.

YOU FOR THAT THRESHOLD.

YEAH.

MANDATE IS UNFUNDED.

IT'S ANOTHER ONE.

WELL, THAT'S THE REASON I SAID WHAT WE REALLY NEED IS TO KNOW HOW MANY HOURS YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT IN THE WELL, I MEAN, I CAN RUN SOME REPORTS AND TELL YOU HOW MANY HOURS THEY WORKED OVER 40.

YEAH.

I MEANT, YOU KNOW, IN OUR DIFFERENCE IN OUR MONEY, IF WE KNEW HOW MANY HOURS, WORDS, I MEAN I CAN WRITE THE REPORT THAT TELLS YOU HOW MANY HOURS IN THE LAST YEAR SINCE WE'VE HAD A SYSTEM THAT THEY WORKED OVER 40 AND TELL YOU THIS IS WHAT WE WOULD'VE HAD TO PAY THEM.

IF THEY, THAT WOULD LET ME GET INFORMATION THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL THEN.

LIKE THIS, THIS ONE POSITION IS A $6,879 RAISE.

HOW MANY HOURS OF OVERTIME DOES THAT CONSTITUTE? YEAH, I MEAN, AND IF WE HAVE GIVES HOW MANY HOURS THEY WORKED OVERTIME THAT WE CAN COMPARE.

I ONLY HAVE WHAT THEY PUT IN THE SYSTEM.

I KNOW THAT'S WHAT WE WANT.

YOU GIVE US ONE SECOND.

YOU WANT OVER THE LAST YEAR OR LAST YEAR? I WOULD SAY ONE YEAR.

OKAY.

ONES THAT ARE CURRENTLY EXEMPT THAT ARE NOT, UH, ON THE SYSTEM THAT IS ONLY ELECTED OFFICIAL.

I WHAT ABOUT LIKE, ONE OF THE HOT TOPICS WOULD BE LIKE THE E UH, DIRECTOR ACROSS THE STATE MOST UH, SO OUR POLICY ARE EXEMPT MAKING DEPOSITION.

CORRECT? CORRECT.

UM, THAT WAS PRETTY AND, AND, AND MOST OF THIS, LIKE THE ONES THAT THAT WE DECIDED TO BUMP UP OR THAT WAS TALKED ABOUT BUMPING UP OR WHATEVER, MOST OF THOSE IN OTHER COUNTIES THAT IT'S EXEMPT.

THAT'S EXEMPT POSITION.

SO WE DID GO OUT AND LOOK THAT.

UM, BUT THE ONLY, THE POLICY THAT WE HAVE WAS THE TIME THE SYSTEM AND ELECTED OFFICIALS ARE NOT ON, IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT Y'ALL DO, UM, AS FAR AS YOUR TIME AND STUFF.

SO, AND THE, THE EVERY EMPLOYEE, WHETHER YOU ARE EXEMPT OR NON-EXEMPT, MUST USE THE TIME BEING SYSTEM AND THEY MUST CLOCK IN AND THEY MUST CLOCK OUT.

THAT'S A POLICY.

THE ONLY EXCEPTION WAS DEPARTMENT HEADS.

WE DID NOT, UM, IT WAS DECISION MADE IN COURT THAT WE ONLY REQUIRED DEPARTMENT HEADS TO CLOCK IN AND THE SYSTEM AUTOMATICALLY CLOCKS THEM OUT BY, OUT AT FIVE.

NOW SOME DEPARTMENT HEADS IF THAT THEY WANT TO CLOCK IN AND OUT, THEN WE SET THE SYSTEM UP AND THEY CAN CLOCK IN AND OUT.

UM, AND IT KEEPS TRACK OF THEIR EVERY MOVE.

CAN YOU GIVE US SOME DISTANCE? THOSE ALSO MM-HMM .

OKAY.

YEAH.

SO ON DEPARTMENT HEADS IT'S NOT GONNA BE AS ACCURATE BECAUSE THEY MAY WORK FIVE.

YES.

PAST FIVE.

WE KNOW WHICH ONE THAT SYSTEM CLOCKS IN OUR FIVE.

'CAUSE THAT WAS A DISCUSSION WITH DEPARTMENT HEADS THAT, YOU KNOW, WE GET CALLED AT NIGHTTIME AND WE GET CALLED IN ON THE WEEKEND.

WE'RE NOT GONNA GO EIGHT O' CLOCK IN ON THE SYSTEM AND THOSE KINDS OF THINGS.

SO YEAH.

BUT SOME OF YOU CLOCK IN WHEREVER YOU ARE BECAUSE RIGHT.

OR IF THEY MAY NOT CALL ME THE EIGHT, THEY MIGHT NOT GO TO THE OFFICE, YOU KNOW? RIGHT.

THEY CLOCK IN AT THEY ANYWHERE IN THE CORRECT IN THE COUNTY.

AND ANYBODY THAT'S OVER THAT 47,700, WHATEVER, THEY DON'T FALL UNDER THE COUNTY BECAUSE THEY'RE ALREADY ABOVE THOSE POSITIONS WERE NOT LOOKED AT AND THEY JUST CARRIED ON.

RIGHT.

OKAY.

I MEAN, WE'RE MAKING A , WE'RE TRYING TO KEEP TRACK OF THEM.

WELL, NO, AND IT'S, I DON'T, THAT TIMEING SYSTEM, YOU EARN SICK, YOU EARN SICK TIME AND YOU EARN VACATION TIME BASED ON HOURS YOU WORK.

SO IF YOU'RE NOT PUNCHING IN AND OUT OF THE SYSTEM, YOU'RE NOT EARNING VACATION TIME AND SICK TIME BECAUSE IT'S BASED ON YOU WORKING.

RIGHT.

SO THAT, AND THAT'S ONE REASON THAT SYSTEM, IT KEEPS IT'S LIVE SO IT KNOWS EXACTLY WHAT THE ACCRUALS THAT YOU HAVE.

I MEAN, IT'S A REALLY GOOD SYSTEM.

IT'S NOT TO KEEP TRACK OF ANYBODY.

IT'S JUST A, AND THEN WHEN THEY COME, THEY'RE LIKE, THEY COME AND TURN IN YOUR TIME SHEET AND IT GOES TO PAYROLL.

PAYROLL KNOWS HOW MANY HOURS TO PAY THEM.

AND IF THEY ONLY WORK SEVEN, FIVE HOURS, PAYROLL ONLY PAYS IN SEVEN, FIVE HOURS AND THEN YOU'RE, AND THAT'S NOT HOW IT WAS HAPPENING.

WHEN WE DID THE PAPER TIME SHEETS, WE WERE, WE WERE CORRECTING MISTAKES OF PAY PERIOD AFTER.

'CAUSE IT WOULD TAKE US THAT LONG TO GET ALL THOSE PAPER TIME SHEETS IN HAND.

AND NOW WE'RE ABLE TO DO IT ACTUAL CORRECTLY OR FOUR DAYS TO DO PAYROLL.

IT TAKES TWO OR LESS.

MM-HMM .

YEP.

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AND WE HAVE 99.999%, UH, PEOPLE THAT ARE ACTUALLY YES.

UH, WE HAVE ONE.

I THINK ONE EMPLOYEE DOES NOT PARTICIPATE.

YEAH.

AND THAT HAS BEEN ADDRESSED WITH THAT DEPARTMENT.

RIGHT.

SELECTED OFFICIAL HAS INDICATED THEY'VE BEEN TOLD THAT THEY, TO MAKE THAT PERSON SIGN IN SO WELL THEY HAD NOT BEEN REQUIR, THEY UNDERSTAND THAT THAT WAS JUST LAST WEEK.

SO WHAT I WAS GONNA SAY, I HAVE A COMPLAINT.

HER JP, THERE'S NOBODY THERE TO TAKE MONDAY AFTER THREE O'CLOCK.

I CAN TELL YOU THAT I CALLED THAT JP OFFICE SEVERAL TIMES AND I DON'T GET A PHONE CALL THERE.

AND THAT'S BEEN AN ISSUE.

I DUNNO HOW THEY GET THEIR 40 IN OR SOMETHING.

SO I DUNNO, FRIDAY.

SO THAT'S BACK INTO, WELL, YOU KNOW, THAT'S, YEAH, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I KNOW, I MEAN OBVIOUSLY ALREADY MENTIONED I KNOW WHO IT IS AND WE CAN VENTURE OUT.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE BEST WAY TO CORRECT IT WILL BE IF THEY DO THAT.

BUT WE CAN, THAT'S ONE THING FOR LUNCH EVERY DAY.

ONE WAY IT'S JUST A DOCTOR THERE.

WELL, AND THAT'S ONE THING IF, IF YOU HAVE AN EXEMPT EMPLOYEE THAT'S, YOU KNOW, I MEAN THE THING WITH AN EXEMPT EMPLOYEE IS THEY'RE EXEMPT FROM OVERTIME.

SO YOU, YOU SHOULD EXPECT THEM TO DO THEIR WORK.

YES.

THERE ARE GONNA BE SOME TIMES WHERE THEY DON'T WORK FULL EIGHT HOUR DAY.

THERE'S GONNA BE OTHER TIMES WHERE THEY PUT IN 10, 11, 12 HOUR MINUTES.

BUT ON THE SAME TIME IT'S, IT'S GOTTA WORK BOTH WAYS.

EXACTLY.

BUT YOU ALSO HAVE EMPLOYEES THAT GET PAID 40 HOURS A WEEK, THEY'RE EXEMPT AND THEY DON'T WORK 40 HOURS A WEEK.

WELL, IN AN OFFICE LIKE THAT, THERE SHOULD BE SOME THERE.

HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE JUST PUT A CAN OUT FRONT CLARIFICATION ON WHO ALL WANTED ON JUST THE ONES THAT WE RAISING ARIES OR RAISING STATUS.

RIGHT? YEAH.

EXTEND HOURS OF WORK LAST YEAR.

CAN YOU JUST GIVE US JUST YEAH, WE DON'T NEED A TIME SHEET CONVINCE IT.

SO THAT KIND OF GETS US, UH, I HOPE THAT EXPLAINS IT AS BEST WE CAN, BUT, UH, UH, BUT IT, IT'S, THAT'S THAT'S THE INFORMATION WE HAVE.

LIKE I SAY, I'LL, I'LL EMAIL COPY.

I THINK WE GOT INTERRUPT WHERE HE WAS AND FINISH THE, HE'S DON'T HAVE, WELL I, AND UM, I WENT AHEAD AND, UH, WENT AHEAD AND CALCULATED EACH OF THESE, THE ACTUAL INCREASES TO THE BASE SALARY SO THAT WAY I CAN GET BOTH OF THESE.

SO, UM, I LEFT OFF WITH ANGIE'S, UM, THE INCREASE OF THE BASE SALARY WAS $3,791.

THE NEXT ONE IS HALEY SMITH, I THINK SHE'S A COURT COORDINATOR RAISE TO EXEMPT STATUS OF $6,879 5,870, WHICH HAS INCREASED THE BASE SALARY.

THE NEXT ITEM IS THE COUNTY CLERK.

UH, SHE GAVE A DEPARTMENT WIDE RAISE ABOUT A FEW WEEKS AGO.

AND SO THAT ADDED $13,516 TO NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET.

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UM, SO EXPLAIN HOW THAT WORKS.

NOW THE WAY, THE WAY THAT WE'VE, THE WAY THAT I'VE PUT TOGETHER THIS BUDGET IN THE PAST AND THE WAY THAT, UH, KAREN'S PUT THIS BUDGET IN THE PAST IS WHAT, WHENEVER WE DO OUR SALARY SPREADSHEET, IT'S BASED ON CURRENT POSITIONS, WHAT CURRENT PEOPLE PEOPLE ARE CURRENTLY MAKING.

AND SO, UM, IF I REMEMBER RIGHT, I DON'T BELIEVE SHE HAS ANY BANK POSITIONS.

UM, OR AT LEAST SHE MAY ONLY HAVE ONE BANK POSITION.

SO BECAUSE PAST ITERATIONS OF THIS WORKING BUDGET HAVE BEEN BASED ON WHAT PEOPLE ARE CURRENTLY MAKING, WHAT WILL CARRY OVER TO NEXT YEAR, WHENEVER THEY GET THAT RAISE, THAT CARRIES OVER TO NEXT YEAR AS WELL.

THIS IS WHAT WE HAD DISCUSSED LAST TIME, WHENEVER TECHNICALLY THAT WE WON'T SEE THAT $13,000 IN THIS YEAR'S BUDGET BECAUSE WE ONLY HAVE FOUR PAYROLLS LEFT.

AND SO ONLY ABOUT FOUR PAYROLLS WORTH THAT IN THIS YEAR'S BUDGET.

SO ACCORDING TO WHAT Y'ALL AGREED ON BACK IN OCTOBER, THERE IS ENOUGH FUNDING IN THIS YEAR'S BUDGET TO UH, FUND THAT FOR THOSE FOUR PAY PERIODS.

SO, BUT, BUT THE SUBSEQUENT YEAR FUNDING GETS INCREASED.

AND, AND AND YOU DO YOU KNOW WHAT THAT, HOW MUCH THAT BREAKS DOWN PER EMPLOYEE? IT WAS VERY DIFFERENT.

AVERAGE.

AVERAGE, WELL AVERAGE IS, I THINK IT WAS SIX TO THOUSAND I THINK OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD.

ANYWHERE BETWEEN 600 AND A THOUSAND, THERE WERE 11 EMPLOYEES THAT OKAY, SO THAT AVERAGE OUT IS LITTLE OVER.

SO THEY'RE GONNA GET THAT PLUS THE PROPOSED SIX, WE CAN TAKE 600 AWAY.

SEE THAT WAS NEVER INTENDED IF YOU HAD MONEY LEFT BECAUSE YOU HAD TO FILL A POSITION OR SOMETHING THAT WAS, YOU KNOW, SUPPOSED NOT FOR THE NEXT YEAR CONTINUES.

AND THEN THESE DEPARTMENTS TELL US, WELL WE NEED TWO MORE POSITIONS.

SO WE GIVE 'EM TO 'EM AND THEN THEY, THEY'RE NOT FILLED.

AND THEN NEXT YEAR THEY GIVE THEIRSELVES A RAISE AGAIN.

AND THAT'S JUST CERTAIN THE DESIGN OF THE SYSTEM.

EXACTLY.

IT'S A LOOPHOLE.

YEAH.

THE WAY THAT IT WAY THAT AGREEMENT WAS WORDED ALLOWS FOR THAT.

YOU KNOW, IF THEY, IF SHE'S ALREADY GIVEN A THOUSAND DOLLARS RAISE AND ALL THE OTHER EMPLOYEES ARE GETTING 600, THAT'S NOT FAIR.

YOU KNOW, THAT'S, WE WILL REMOVE THAT 600.

SO WE DO NOT HAVE TO LEAVE, WE DO NOT HAVE TO GIVE A 600 UP YOU GUYS.

THEY DON'T HAVE TO.

AND THAT'S, THAT WAS STEVE'S POINT LAST YEAR.

YOU KNOW, LONG AS DEPARTMENT OFFICIALS DON'T TAKE ADVANTAGE OF IT WORKS.

BUT IF THEY DO THAT OF EVERYBODY ELSE THAT'S NOT INTENDED TO DO THAT AND WE PUT IT IN THE, IN BLACK AND WHITE, YOU COULDN'T EXCEED YOUR BUDGET AND THAT MEANT NEXT YEAR.

SO, YOU KNOW, JUST BECAUSE YOU HAVE SOMEBODY FOR TWO MONTHS DOESN'T GIVE YOU THE RIGHT TO TAKE THAT INCREASE.

YOU KNOW, WHOLE PURPOSE OF IT WAS THAT YOU, SOMEBODY RETIRES AND, AND YOU EITHER DECIDE YOU CAN DO WITHOUT THAT POSITION AND SHRINK YOUR DEPARTMENT A LITTLE BIT, THEN YOU CAN PUT THE MONEY UP.

THAT'S A GREAT THING.

OR IT KIND OF KIND MAKES, GIVES THE INCENTIVE TO WORK WITH A AND MOST PEOPLE ACTUALLY MOVE SOMEONE LOWER INTO THAT POSITION AND HIRE SOMEONE AND THAT'S OKAY.

THAT'S, THAT'S ABSOLUTELY GOOD.

THAT'S OKAY.

I MEAN, BUT IT DIDN'T INCREASE NEXT YEAR.

IT'S STILL THE SAME AMOUNT OF MONEY.

COULDN'T UNDERSTAND THAT.

SO TO PARTIALLY CORRECT THAT 600, WE ELIMINATE THAT 600, THOSE POSITION THAT WAS 11? YES.

JUST THE ONE THAT ACTUALLY RECEIVED, THE ONES THAT RECEIVED THERE.

NOT EVERYBODY GOT AN INCREASE THAT WILL PARTIALLY CORRECT OR, OR WE CAN TAKE, USE THAT NUMBER.

THE 13,516.

I'LL NEED TO DOUBLE CHECK.

AND JUST TO MAKE SURE, BECAUSE THAT 13,000 WAS BASED ON THE RAISE THAT'S ALREADY BEEN GIVEN.

THAT'S NOT BASED ON THE 600.

RIGHT.

RIGHT.

BUT BUT SHE HAS SOME POSITIONS THAT DIDN'T GET A RAISE.

SO THE POSITION THAT DID NEED A RAISE, YOU SUBTRACT THAT.

YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? YEAH, NO, I DON'T, I DON'T, I'M NOT CASH.

OKAY.

YOU GOT, YOU GOT 11, YOU GOT 11 EMPLOYEES THAT GOT A RINGS OR SHE'S GOT 11 EMPLOYEES, SHE HAS 11 EMPLOYEES.

NO, SHE HAD 11 THAT SHE JUST, OKAY.

SHE HAS MORE THAN 11 EMPLOYEES.

GOT 16.

YEAH.

ON MACHINE HERE.

WHAT DIDN'T ASK YOU FOR TWO? YEAH,

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A TOTAL OF, WE DON'T KNOW WHICH ONES GOT DELAYED.

RIGHT NOW WE ONLY HAVE ONE.

I'M SAYING TOTAL 600.

TAKE THAT FIGURE AND SUBTRACT THIS 13,500 LEFT FIGURE.

AND THAT'S THE AMOUNT THAT SHE GETS.

SO SHE CAN DIVIDE AND RAISE UP BETWEEN WHICHEVER ONE SHE DES NECESSARY IS MY OPINION.

IN THE LAST MEETING WE HAD INCLUDED, SHE ASKED FOR TWO AT THE BEGINNING IN THE LAST BUDGET MEETING WE HAD GAVE ONE AND SHE ASKED FOR ANOTHER.

SO THERE ARE TWO NEW POSITIONS INCLUDED.

OKAY.

I WANT YOU TO MAKE SURE YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT WE NEED.

OKAY.

SO THIS, THIS POSITION THAT'S NEXT ON THE LINE WHERE IT SAYS COUNTY CLERK ONE NEW POSITION, IT'S ANOTHER, IT'S A POSITION YOU DO, IT'S IN ADDITION.

YES, SIR.

AND SO THE, THE REASON, YOU KNOW, THERE'S BEEN A, A BIG DISCUSSION AT THE OFFICE SUPPORT ADMINISTRATION IN AUSTIN ABOUT ALL THE NEW HOOPS THAT THE PEOPLE THAT PAY FINES ARE GONNA HAVE TO DO.

THEY'RE GONNA HAVE, THEY COULD BE GIVEN, UH, WORK TO DO RATHER THAN PAY MONEY.

THE ISSUE, IT'S ALSO AN ISSUE WITH THE UH, UH, ADULT PROBATION TOO.

THAT INSTEAD OF THEM PAYING THE NOW THEY CAN WORK OFF, BUT THERE'S NO, THERE'S NO WAY KEEP UP THERE.

I MEAN THERE'S NO, THERE'S NO ISSUE.

SO THAT WAS ONE OF THE REASONS THAT, UH, LAURA ASKED FOR THE, SHE ASKED FOR TWO AND UH, I TO BE GIVEN HER ONE.

AND SO CURRENTLY NOW IN HER BUDGET, THERE ARE TWO NEW POSITION, TWO NEW POSITIONS.

AND YOU GOTTA THINK IF THEY'RE DOING THAT, IT'S GONNA AFFECT JUVENILE.

I MEAN ADULT PROBATION AND HER REVENUES ARE GONNA GO DOWN.

SHE PUT TOGETHER THE STATISTICS ON THE CASE LOADS THAT HER COLLECTIONS DEPARTMENT DOES.

SHE'S ASKING FOR TWO THE COLLECTIONS.

THE BOTTOM IS, IS THE BOTTOM STATES, IF THAT STATE THING GOES THROUGH, THE MORE CASES ADDED TO HER EMPLOYEES, BUT IT'S NOT GONE THROUGH YET.

NOT YET.

BUT SHE, BUT SHE NEVER HAD COLLECTIONS EMPLOYEES.

SHE ONLY HAD COURT EMPLOYEES.

SO WHEN YOU ABSORB THE COLLECTIONS INTO HER OFFICE, HER COURT EMPLOYEES WERE TAKEN AWAY TO DO COLLECTIONS.

SO WHAT SHE'S ASKING FOR IS DEDICATED COLLECTIONS PEOPLE SO THAT HER COURTS, PEOPLE CAN DO COURTS BECAUSE SHE NEVER, YOU KNOW, YOU NEVER, WHEN YOU CLOSE THE COLLECTIONS DEPARTMENT AND TOOK AWAY THOSE THREE EMPLOYEES THAT RAN THAT OFFICE AND ABSORBED THAT, YOU KNOW, OR FOUR, I'M SORRY, SHE ABSORBED IT IN HER COURTS PEOPLE, SHE TOOK THE PEOPLE EXISTING ALREADY IN HER OFFICE TO DO THAT JOB.

SO THEY WERE DOING DOUBLE DUTY.

THAT WAS BACK FOUR OR FIVE YEARS.

CORRECT? CORRECT.

YES MA'AM.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEIR JOB RESPONSIBILITIES ARE, BUT I'M PRETTY SURE THAT THERE ARE AT LEAST TWO EMPLOYEES IN THE CLERK'S OFFICE THAT ARE CLASSIFIED AS COLLECTIONS CLERK RIGHT NOW.

YES.

BUT THEY WORK COURTS.

I'M JUST SAYING THAT THEY'RE CLASSIFIED AS COLLECTION CLERKS.

RIGHT.

SHE TOOK THEM AWAY FROM WELL YEAH, BUT WE'VE BEEN DOING IT FOR FIVE YEARS.

YEAH.

WORKING WELL AND HASN'T PASSED YET.

WE DON'T KNOW, BUT THEY MAY, THEY MADE MODIFICATIONS TO IT.

I UNDERSTAND THAT.

IT'S NOT AS, AS IT WAS THEY, THEY THEY DID BACK OFF SOME OF THE REQUIREMENTS.

THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO BE SENDING OUT SOMETHING.

WE'VE NOT RECEIVED ANYTHING YET.

BUT I, THE OFFICE, THEY DID VOTE ON THAT.

IT WAS VERY CONTROVERSIAL.

WE'VE GOT ONE PERSON ADDED, UH, THAT I HAVE AGREED TO ADD, BUT WE'VE GOT TWO IN THE BUDGET, SO IF YOU DECIDE TO BACK OFF OF ONE, UH, OR OFF, YOU CAN DO THAT.

BUT UH, THAT WOULD UH, UNTIL WE FIND OUT A LITTLE MORE THAT WE HAVE TO COME BACK LATER ON AND WE CAN ADD ONE.

YEAH, WE CAN COME BACK.

SO WHAT IS YOUR PLEASURE AS WE TRY TO MOVE WRONG ON THIS ADDITIONAL, WE'VE GOT TWO AND AND OR SHE'S ASKING FOR ADDITIONAL, WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO DO WITH THAT? THE ONE THAT YOU OR PUT IN THERE.

OKAY.

SOUND REASONABLE.

AND IF WE FIND OUT ADDITIONAL INFORMATION, IF, IF, YEAH, IF IT PASSES AND SHE, WE FIND OUT SHE CAN KEEP UP WITH, YEAH.

AND I WOULD ALSO SAY THAT RHONDA WAS HERE.

I GUESS HE'S STILL HERE.

YEAH, SHE GOT QUIET.

I THINK RHONDA, THE SAME SITUATION APPLIES TO YOU BECAUSE IF ADULT PROBATION IS NO LONGER ABLE TO COLLECT YOUR

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FEES, YOU'RE GOING TO BE REQUIRED TO DO CORRECT.

AND YOU WOULD, I DUNNO HOW MANY PROBATION GROUPS WE HAVE, BUT A BUNCH.

WE WENT BUNCH ADULT PROBATION, I FORGET THE FIGURE OUT HOW MANY THEY HAD, BUT IT WAS, I WANNA SAY OVER 500.

I THINKING SIX OR 700 AND THAT THEY EXACTLY RIGHT.

AND THEN AGAIN, THAT'S KIND OF THE ISSUE ABOUT WHO SUPERVISES, YOU KNOW, SO, ALRIGHT, SO THE CONSENSUS IS IS THAT WE'LL, UH, NOT ADD THE UH, UH, THIS ADDITIONAL POSITION WHERE LET'S GO WITH ONE THAT'S IN THE BUDGET CURRENTLY THAT EVERYBODY GOT ON BOARD ON THAT.

YEAH, YOU NEED ONE? ALRIGHT, KEEP GOING.

UM, WAS THERE ANY UM, ACTUAL CONSENSUS ON THE DEPARTMENT LIBRARY, WHAT WE'RE DOING UM, FOR NEXT YEAR AS FAR AS THE 600 I, I KNOW Y'ALL DISCUSSED IT DOESN'T HEAR ANYTHING CONCRETE FOR NEXT YEAR.

HER COUNTY CLERK, WELL SHE'S ALREADY EXCEEDING HER $600, RIGHT? SHE'S GOT 18 EMPLOYEES OF THAT'S 10,800 AND SHE INCREASED HER, UH, WITH THE RAISES 13,516.

SO SHE'S EXCEEDED THAT.

THAT'S WHY I SAY THAT'S WHY THAT WAY I'M JUST, I'M JUST LOOKING FOR CLARIFICATION.

MAKE SURE WE GOTTA CHANGE ALL THESE NUMBERS RIGHT? RIGHT.

PUT BACK IN THE BUDGET.

BUT IF AN EMPLOYEE THAT WAS THERE DID NOT GET PART OF THIS, THEY DIDN'T GET ANYTHING, THEY WOULD GET THE 600.

YEAH.

OKAY.

THAT'S ALL I NEEDED TO KNOW.

WE GOT IT.

CAN CAN UH, NEXT ONE IS CYNTHIA ALSO TO EXEMPT STATUS.

UH, THAT ADDED SEVEN FIVE TO THE BUDGET 5 8 70 WHICH WAS ADDED TO THE BASE SALARY.

SHE'S ALSO A COURT COORDINATOR.

WHAT WAS THAT NUMBER? UH, TO THE BASE SALARY IS 5,870 JUST LIKE UH, BASE.

OKAY.

UM, THE NEXT ITEM IS EMPLOYEE INSURANCE.

UM, OF NINE 300.

THAT'S GOING TO BE REDUCED BY THE ONE POSITION THAT Y'ALL JUST UM, TOOK AWAY FROM TOWN PARK.

RIGHT.

SO THAT'LL BE DOWN TO ZERO, BUT FOR RIGHT NOW IT'S NINE 300.

UH, THE LINE ITEM FUNDS, THAT'S THE EXPENDITURE SIDE OF THE REVENUE THAT I MENTIONED EARLIER.

275,000 1 36.

AGAIN THAT IS A PASS THROUGH.

WE JUST HAVE TO BUDGET FOR IT.

UM, ALL OF THE CONT, I'M SORRY, ALL OF THESE CHANGES, UM, HAVE HAD A NET EFFECT ON A CONTINGENCY OF LOWERING IT.

$572,262 CHANGE.

YES.

THAT'S A GUN CHANGE.

NOW, UM, HOW MUCH DOES THAT LEAVE IN SECOND WITHOUT ANY OF THESE CHANGES? 79,004.

THE NEXT ITEM IS STEVE EY RAISING HIM TO EXEMPT STATUS, WHICH IS KNOWN TO INCREASE THE BUDGET BY $10,456 $8,476 OF WHICH IS ADDED TO THE BASE SALARY.

UM, ON THE SAME DEPARTMENT.

EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT, UH, WHATEVER YOU GUYS WERE CONSIDERING, ONE ADDITIONAL POSITION HAD ACCIDENTALLY ALREADY INCREASED THE SUPPLEMENT ALLOWANCE TO 1800.

AND SO, UM, THIS IS REMOVING THAT UM, THAT ONE EXTRA SUPPLE ALLOWANCE.

UM, ALONG WITH GIVING THAT UM, THE INCREASE TO THE CRI BUDGET, THE REVENUE SIDE, WHENEVER I RECEIVED ACTUAL DOCUMENTS, I NOTICED THAT UH, THERE WAS A DIFFERENCE IN THE CRI EQUIPMENT.

SO I JUST CORRECTED THAT NUMBER, UH, OF $671 SIR.

NEXT ITEM, MS. JENNIFER RAISING THE HER TWO EXEMPT STATUS, ADDING TO THE BUDGET OF $6,184 4,978 OF WHICH IS TO THE BASE SALARY AND DONNAS THE DISTRICT JUDGE APPROVED RAISE ADDING TO THE BUDGET $7,185 6,225 OF WHICH IS TO THE BASE SALARY.

AND ON THE NEXT ITEM WE GOT CLARIFY, YOU'RE GONNA SEE A FEW OF THESE SALARY CORRECTIONS.

YESTERDAY I RAN A CURRENT UP TO DATE, UH, REPORT FROM ON PAYROLL SYSTEM JUST TO CONFIRM, MAKE SURE THAT MY SALARY SPREADSHEET WAS CORRECT.

I FOUND A FEW MISTAKES AND SO THAT'S WHAT THESE SALARY CORRECTIONS ARE.

UM, SO THE DA'S OFFICE THAT ADDED $3,927, UM, SIMILAR TO THE COUNTY CLERK, DISTRICT WIDE, UH, I'M SORRY, DEPARTMENT WIDE RAISE.

DISTRICT CLERK ALSO GAVE ONE WHICH IS ADDING $10,079 TO THE BUDGET.

THE NEXT ITEM IS KATIE GRIFFIN RAISED TO EXEMPT STATUS.

OBJECT.

THE SAME THING.

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SO WE BE OVER BUDGET.

CORRECT.

OKAY.

AND YOUR HERE SHOULD, YOU MIGHT, UH, WOULD MORE THAN 600? YES, SOME OF 'EM WERE.

AND THE ONLY REASON OUR BASE SALARY IN THE DISTRICT CLERK'S OFFICE IS 28, 20 $6,000 IS WHAT MY GIRLS MADE.

I MOVED 'EM UP TO $28,000 IS WHAT I'VE DONE ON SOME OF 'EM.

SOME OF 'EM THAT HAS BEEN THERE.

I'VE GOT ONE THAT'VE BEEN THERE 20 YEARS, SHE MAKES $30,000.

SO I DIDN'T MOVE THOSE UP.

SHE'S MY CHIEF.

I DIDN'T MOVE SOME OF THOSE UP.

SO IT RANGED FROM 800 TO $1,500 IS WHAT I GUESS SOME OF THEM JUST TO MAKE IT MAKE HIM UP FROM PROPERTY, PROPERTY LEVEL.

I MEAN YEAH, OUR GIRLS $20 LESS FROM GETTING FOOD STAMPS WHEN WE CAN GIVE ALL THESE OTHER OFFICIALS OR OR EMPLOYEES RAISES.

I FEEL THAT I HAVE THE MONEY IN MY BUDGET THAT THEY DESERVE THAT AMOUNT OF MONEY PLUS THE $600 THAT IF Y'ALL IMPROVE IT, THAT THE GIRLS ARE SUPPOSED TO GIVE.

I MEAN MY GIRL IT LOOKS LIKE WE'RE NOT BUSY.

SKY LOOKS LIKE WE'RE NOT BUSY IN MY OFFICE, BUT WE ARE UH, ALL OF OUR WORK COME OVER ON OUR EAL SYSTEM WHEN THE EAL SYSTEM IS WORKING, WHICH THAT'S NOT COUNTY'S FAULT, THAT'S EAL SYSTEM'S FAULT.

JUST YESTERDAY WE GOT 200 AND SOMETHING FILINGS NOT SAYING WE'LL BE FILED BACK PASSPORTS IN OUR OFFICE.

WE'VE DONE 25 PEOPLE, APPLICANTS IN MY OFFICE YESTERDAY.

NOT THOSE THAT WE CAN TURN AWAY, BUT THEY DIDN'T HAVE ALL THEIR STUFF.

I MEAN WE ARE STEADY, STEADY BUSY AND I FEEL THAT THOSE GIRLS DESERVE WHAT THEY GET IN MY OFFICE.

I MEAN THEY WORK THEIR, EXCUSE ME, BUT TO, I MEAN THEY WORK LIKE CRAZY.

WE ALL WORK LIKE CRAZY JUST TO KEEP UP WITH WHAT WE'RE, WHAT WE'RE DOING AND THAT'S WHY I ASKED TO RAISE THOSE GIRLS UP ABOVE.

I MEAN FROM THE 26TH BASE BREAK TO THE 28 ON SOME OF THOSE THAT WERE JUST MAKING THEM THE 26, I THINK IT WAS 26 5 IS WHAT THEY WERE MAKING.

I THINK SO.

AND I RAISED 'EM TO 28.

28 5 IS WHAT I UH, THEIR BASE PAY IS.

I MEAN I DON'T THINK THERE WAS ANYBODY IN THE COUNTY THAT MAKES THAT MAKES LEASES.

MY OFFICE DOES.

I GOT COUPLE LOCAL GUYS MAKE THAT MY, I MEAN THE THE, I'VE GOT TWO WHAT I CALL NEW GIRLS, BUT MOST OF MY GIRLS IN MY OFFICE HAS BEEN THERE FROM 10 TO TO 25 OR YEARS.

I MEAN YOU COME IN THAT OFFICE AND YOU STAY RHONDA, DID ALL OF YOUR, ALL OF THE LADIES GET A SIX? UH, THEY GOT PART OF THIS? YES SIR.

10,002 NINE ALL EXCEPT FOR MY PART-TIME.

OKAY.

SO THE ISSUE WOULD BE, UH, CONTINUE TO ALLOW A $600 SHOULD BE GIVEN, WHICH IS WHAT THE ISSUE WE HAD WITH THE COUNTY CLERK.

UH, AND HOW DID YOU COME UP FROM YOUR FIGURE THAT YOU HAD IT BE ABLE TO DO THAT WHEN THIS YEAR IT IS GOING TO EXCEED.

THAT WAS MONEY FROM I, I GOT WITH THE AUDITOR'S OFFICE AND AFTER THE SALARIES WOULD WOULD'VE BEEN PAID OUT.

I THINK I HAD WHAT, 14? A LITTLE OVER $14,000 LEFT IN MY BUDGET.

WHEN DID YOU CUT OUTTA POSITION? I HAVE HOW WERE YOU GOING, HOW WERE YOU GONNA PAY FOR NEXT YEAR OR YOU DIDN'T HAVE ANY MONEY IN THIS YEAR? BUT NO, I DID NOT CUT OUT POSITION THAT THAT WAS JUST MONEY LEFT, LEFT OVER IN MY BUDGET.

BUT IT'S NOT LEFT, IT'S NOT LEFT OVER THAT'S NOT USED THAT WE HAD THAT DISCUSSION THE OTHER DAY.

IT'S NOT LEFT OVER MONEY.

IF IT EXCEEDS YOUR BUDGET NEXT YEAR IT'S NOT USED THAT.

THAT'S JUST BECAUSE I, SOME OF THE PEOPLE THAT HAS BEEN IN MY OFFICE, THEY'VE RETIRED, WHICH WHAT? THEY WERE MAKING MORE MONEY THAN EVERYBODY ELSE IN MY OFFICE.

SO THAT'S MONEY THAT'S NOT, WAS NOT GIVEN BACK TO THE COUNTY.

SO YOU HAD A VACANT POSITION, RIGHT? I I, NO, I FILLED THOSE POSITIONS BUT IT WAS JUST AT LOWER PAY.

OH OKAY.

ALRIGHT.

BECAUSE THOSE THAT HAVE RETIRED, THEY WERE MAKING MORE MONEY WHEN THEY RETIRED.

SO YOU'VE GOT TWO EMPLOYEES THAT HAVE BEEN THERE LESS THAN A YEAR.

SO IT WAS THOSE ARE MY, THOSE ARE MY TWO POSITION THAT RETIRED AND YOU REHIRED? CORRECT.

OKAY.

AND I'M ASKING FOR AN ADDITIONAL EMPLOYEE IF THIS IS GONNA PASS THIS NEW OCA REQUIREMENT AND AND TO HELP OUT WITH, I MEAN EVERYTHING, OUR DAILY FILINGS, OUR DAILY PASSPORT.

I MEAN I HAVE SIX COURTS THAT I'M RESPONSIBLE FOR.

THAT'S OUR FOUR DISTRICT COURTS, CPS AND AND AG.

AND SO I'M JUST ASKING FOR AN ADDITIONAL EMPLOYEE TO HELP WITH THAT.

TO RELIEVE THAT.

WHICH CURRENT YOU SHOWING IN YOUR YEAH, IT'S ALREADY IN THERE.

DID DID HE HAVE A EMPLOYEE THAT WAS OVER THERE AT THE RECORD DOING THE RECORDS? CORRECT.

THAT THAT'S KAREN WHAT THE LAST YEAR OR SO SHE'S BACK IN.

SHE'S THE ONE, SHE'S MY PART-TIME PERSON.

OKAY.

KAREN JONES.

SHE'S PART-TIME AND SHE'S STILL PART-TIME NOW? SHE'S STILL PART-TIME.

OKAY.

SO YOU REGAINED HER TO

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HELP YOU WITH YOUR DUTIES.

YES.

AND YOU NEED AN ADDITIONAL PERSON.

CORRECT.

INCLUDING HER? CORRECT.

BEING BACK MM-HMM I HAVE I TO REPLACE THAT IN HER BUDGET FOR NEXT YEAR.

WELL IT LOOKS LIKE YOUR ONLY, ONLY BENEFITS.

NO, WELL DOES HER PART-TIME PERSON PLANT BENEFITS.

YES.

YEAH, SHE WORKS OVER THE ALLOTTED TIME.

OKAY.

SALARY BENEFITS.

SO IT'S REALLY NOT, WE REALLY CONSIDER HER FULLTIME.

RIGHT.

EVEN THOUGH THEY'RE PART TIME, YOU KNOW THE WAY THROUGH.

THEY'RE WORKING LESS OF HOURS THOUGH.

THEY'RE NOT WORKING A FULL-TIME POSITION HOURS.

RIGHT.

I BE LOOKING AT DOLLARS FROM 25 TO 27 HOURS.

CORRECT.

OKAY.

SO WHAT'S YOUR PLEASURE WITH THIS? UH, THIS ITEM AS FAR AS THE UH, COUNTY.

OKAY.

SO CAN'T LEAVE THE ADDITIONAL EMPLOYEE IN AND SHE SAYS SHE HATES THE EMPLOYEE 10 ADDIT SIX CUT HALF EVERYBODY.

DAMN RUN.

YOU HEARD THAT? I GUESS I DID.

YEAH, I MEAN IT'S NOT, I DON'T LIKE IT BUT I HEARD IT.

OKAY.

I MEAN AND Y'ALL OKAY.

ALRIGHT, KEEP GOING.

UH, NEXT ITEM IS KATIE GRIFFIN REGARD TO EXEMPT STATUS ADDING $6,097 TO THE BUDGET.

4,000 9 78 OF WHICH IS TO THE BASE SALARY.

AND WHO DOES SHE WORK FOR? COUNTY COURT OF LAW ONE.

NO, THAT'S RIGHT.

THE NEXT ITEM IS ELIZABETH WOOD.

THE DISTRICT JUDGE APPROVED ADDING 6,000 5 92 6 2 25 FOR TO THE BASE SALARY.

THE NEXT ITEM IS ADDING THE UH, FOR INCREASE TO THE VEHICLE ALLOWANCE FOR PATRICIA CRO OF 2,800 AND IT'S ACTUALLY ADDING 3 2 80 TO THE BUDGET.

EXACT SAME NUMBERS FOR MIKE SMITH INCREASING HIS VEHICLE ROUNDS.

THIS WAS, THEY JUST WERE TRYING TO EQUAL UP OF WHAT THEY WERE TWO GETTING.

YES.

YEAH, BUT THE OTHER TWO ARE TRAVELING.

THEY'RE TRAVELING FARTHER AND A LOT MORE AWFUL.

SO 'CAUSE IF YOU LOOK AT THAT, THEY'RE ACTUALLY GETTING MORE THAN WHAT WE'RE ALLOWED FOR PEOPLE OUT.

YEAH, YEAH.

IT'S KIND OF, WE GOT 200 MILES, YOU GOT 300 MILES CAR, TWO WEEKS, MILES, MAGISTRATE, MAGISTRATE, THEY VIDEO BENEFIT FROM THEIR OFFICE.

THERE YOU GO.

YEAH.

SO THEY DON'T TRAVEL MUCH.

THEY DON'T TRAVEL MUCH.

SAY CUT THOSE WE HAVE.

I KNOW, BUT IT, IT LIKE WE'RE BACK IN JUNIOR HIGH ON AND THEN THEN THE OTHER TWO ARE GONNA COME BACK, SAY, WELL WE TRAVELED FARTHER, WE NEED SOME IN ADDITION TO THAT.

SOME POINT YOU GOTTA STOP ONE.

I KNOW BECAUSE THEY DO THE MAG AND THEY TRAVEL.

YOU BUY CAR, GIVE A CAR AND CUT OUT THE SUIT.

THAT'S WHERE I WHAT ABOUT THIS SOME CARS AND I DON'T KNOW THIS ANSWER THIS UH, YOU KNOW WE GOT INTO THIS LAST YEAR BECAUSE WE HAD A GRIEVANCE FROM ONE OF THE S SO THAT SAME OPPORTUNITY BE AVAILABLE TO THE OTHER S YEAH.

THINK I TO JUSTIFY IT WITH ME.

YEAH.

YEAH.

BUT I MEAN IF THEY, IF THEY WANTED TO FILE, THEY TOLD ME THEY WOULD.

I'M JUST SAYING I FIGURED THAT WHILE I, IF IF IF THEY ALL FOUR COME UP HERE WITH THEIR STATISTICS, I THINK IT'D BE A FAIR FACT.

ONE OTHER THING YOU MIGHT WANNA LOOK AT ABOUT THREE OR FOUR YEARS AGO, UH, THERE WAS A COMMITMENT BY THE COURT TO BUDGET 15 PER INQUEST.

IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT? YEAH, FOR

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THE OUT OF DISTRICT OUT PRECINCT INQUEST.

BUT THEY TURNED THAT IN AS THEY DO THAT.

IN OTHER WORDS, IF ONE OF THE JUDGES WEEKEND THEY TURNED THAT IN AND THAT MONEY I BELIEVE WAS STILL BUDGET.

WELL SOME OF, SOME OF HAVE COME AND REQUESTED THAT YOU LOWER THAT AND INCREASE THEIR TRAVEL 'CAUSE OF THE SCHOOL AND STUFF.

THE SEMINARS, UM, ONE HAS UH, 1,502 HAS 703 HAS 1,504 HAS 1500.

SO YOU DO HAVE THAT MONEY THAT WAS, THAT WAS AT A REQUEST THAT THEY MADE IT BECAUSE OF THE TRAVEL.

THEY ALSO DID THE SAME THING JUDGE WITH THE THREE AND FOUR HOLDING THE DIFFERENT COURTS, THE SEWER COURT AND THE MENTAL HEALTH COURT THING.

UH, THEY WERE GETTING A SUPPLEMENT OF 6,000 AND THEN Y'ALL PROVED TO GIVE ONE AND TWO THE SAME 6,000.

WE BUY A LITTLE CAR FOR 12 14,000 YEARS YOU GOTTA PAY FOR IT'S DONE.

WELL THEN TO TAKE THE OTHER ONE OF THEM ALREADY IN THE FIRST PART, NOW ONE OF 'EM GOT IT.

GRIEVANCE THE OTHER ONE.

SO YOU AGREE TO GIVE IT TO BUT NOT THE OTHER TWO.

WHO? MARY.

MARY YOU AIN'T CUT THE OTHER TO ME.

I CUT AND OUT THEM OUT THERE DON'T HAVE YOU.

JUST TALKING ABOUT THESE TWO.

MARY, YOU CUT HERS OUT TOO.

CUT ANYBODY'S OUT.

SHE TOLD.

GOT IT.

NO, IT WAS AN ADDED FOR YEAR IT IN.

OH IT IS APPROVED IT BECAUSE SHE CAME AND ASKED ONE UPSTAIRS.

I KNOW SHE DOES MAG FOR PROBABLY 75 OR 80% OF THE STUFF IS DONE.

WELL MAYBE WE OUGHT TO GET ALL FOUR OF THEM HERE TOGETHER AND I THINK WE'LL DO THIS.

THE ONLY THING THAT CAN GET INTO AIN YOU GET ME ON THAT, CAN'T GET INTO THAT.

THE ONLY THING THAT CAN GET INTO, WE'VE GOTTA PUBLISH THE ELECTED OFFICIAL SALARIES HERE PRE FRONT, I MEAN LIKE TODAY 45 MINUTES.

YEAH.

SO TO STAY ON OUR GUIDELINE.

SO THAT MEANS THAT THOSE SALARIES WILL BE OUT THERE AND IT'LL BE HARDER THAN ANYTHING ABOUT AFTER THAT.

THE GRIEVANCE COMMITTEE, IF THEY'RE NOT IN, THEY CANNOT GET THEM.

THEY CAN GRIEVANCE WITH A GRIEVANCE.

YEAH, BUT THEY CANNOT, WE CANNOT PUT THEM IN THE BUDGET WITHOUT A GRIEVANCE.

YEAH, JUST LIKE LAST YEAR WE HAD UH, WE ALREADY POSTED THE SALARIES OF THE ELECTED OFFICIAL AND THE GRIEVANCE HERE AND THE GRIEVANCE COMMITTEE AGREED TO GIVE THE ADDITIONAL FUNDING AND SO, BUT THAT CHANGED BUDGET AND WE HAD TO COME BACK IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY IN THE BUDGET.

YES.

SO WE STARTED OFF WITH THAT.

HIS AMOUNT IN THERE THIS YEAR BECAUSE IT'S ALREADY APPROVED BY THE GRIEVANCE.

I'M JUST SAYING I THE GRIEVANCE BUT FOR PRE PURPOSE WE KIND OF NEED TO, UH, TO TAKE, TAKE, TAKE ALL THREE APPROVED.

ONLY ONE APPROVED.

WELL NOT FORMALLY, NONE OF THEY'RE ALL IN THE SAME BOAT.

THEY'RE ALL EQUAL.

RIGHT? ONLY ONE EXCEPT FOUR.

FOUR FOUR IS THE ONLY ONE.

YEAH, THAT'S THREE.

EITHER WE TAKE THREE OUT OR

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SO JUST WHATEVER YOU WANT TO DO.

I MEAN THEY MADE THE REQUEST I THINK THEY MADE IT DIRECTLY TO YOU.

UH, YEAH, THAT'S KIND OF WHAT I SAID.

I JUST NOT GOING THROUGH THE WHOLE PROCESS AGAIN.

IT'S NOT A MUCH POINT TO IT.

YEAH AND I THINK THE OTHER THING WE'VE TALKED ABOUT LATER, YOU KNOW, IN A YEAR WE DON'T HAVE A WORKSHOP GOING OVER ALL THE BUDGET ISSUES THAT WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, AND LOOKING SOME SORT OF A STEP OR SOMETHING THIS NOVEMBER WELL CAR YEAH WE CAN ALWAYS GO BACK AND ADJUST IT FOR NEXT YEAR BUT I, I THINK ALL US REALIZE THAT DON'T DEAL WHAT THEY'RE ASKING FOR THEIR CHANCES OF GOING BEFORE GRIEVANCE COMMITTEE IS PRETTY GOOD.

YEP.

AND I CAN'T GUESS WHAT THE GRIEVANCE COMMITTEE WILL DO.

PROBABLY WIND UP AGREEING TO, I MEAN THAT'S JUST MY YOU WANNA LEAVE THOSE IN THERE THEN? ALRIGHT, THOSE GOING.

NEXT ITEM IS THE AUDITOR'S OFFICE DISTRICT JUDGE APPROVED RAISE TOTAL OF 6,004 $40.

UM, AS FAR AS THE BASE SALARIES, IT RANGE ANYWHERE BETWEEN 601,000.

THAT'S ANOTHER UH, THAT OVER, THAT'S OVER THAT IS, THAT'S ACTUALLY APPROVED FROM THE DISTRICT JUDGES THOUGH.

THAT'S FROM NICK.

THAT'S FROM NICK.

OKAY.

THAT'S NOT, THAT'S NOT US TAKING CURRENT.

OKAY.

THAT'S, THAT'S JUST MY STAFF.

I ASKED FOR NO INCREASE.

I DON'T GET A OH, OKAY.

I DON'T GET A PHONE ALLOWANCE.

NOTHING FOR ME.

IS THERE A 600 INCREASE IN ADDITION TO THAT? YES, IT'S BACK TO THE, OKAY.

Y'ALL GONNA ALLOW THAT.

WHAT PAGE? OURS WAS DONE A LITTLE DIFFERENT BECAUSE I HAD MONEY LEFT IN MY BUDGET.

RIGHT.

WELL THERE'S NEVER, NEVER EXTRA MONEY LEFT.

WE COULD ALWAYS USE IT.

THE DISTRICT JUDGE'S ORDER SAYS THAT IF YOU GIVE COUNTY, ANYBODY IN THE COUNTY A RAISE THAT OURS GOES WITH IT.

ALSO, IF YOU'D LIKE TO SEE THE ORDER, THE DISTRICT CLERK HAS IT ON FILE FILE IN ADDITION TO WHAT THE HISTORY JUDGE, WHAT I'M SAYING WAS TWO SEPARATE, THERE'S TWO SEPARATE COLUMNS AND, AND WHAT WAS APPROVED.

WHAT THEY APPROVED AND THE COLUMN THAT SAYS WHAT THE UM, YES.

COLUMN ONLY.

OKAY.

IT SAYS THE COUNTY BUDGET OF THE FISCAL YEAR ENDING SEPTEMBER 30TH, 2017 HAS NOT BEEN ADOPTED.

IF THE PARISH MISSIONERS ACCORD ADJUST PROPOSED SALARY FOR COUNTY EMPLOYEES, THE ABOVE PER PERSONNEL WILL PARTICIPATE IN ANY ADJUSTMENT AS INDICATED.

UH, PROPOSED ADJUSTMENT HAS BEEN CLEARED UP AND IT'S EFFECTIVE OCTOBER 1ST THROUGH SEPTEMBER 30TH AND IT HAS THE, THE 600 PLUS, UH, WHAT WE ASKED FOR THE STAFF.

SO IT'S IN THEIR ORDER THEN? YES.

YES.

OKAY SIR.

NEXT ITEM IS LISA HAM.

I HAVE IT ON HERE RAISED TO EXEMPT STATUS, BUT JUDGE WOOD CORRECTED ME YESTERDAY.

I BELIEVE THIS IS A RAISE TO GET TO BE MORE COMPARABLE TO WHAT JACK HAD LIKE THAT I THINK HE WAS HIGHER THAN WHAT SHE YEAH, JACK WAS SOMEWHERE AROUND 60,000.

CORRECT.

AND UH, LISA HAD BEEN WORKING I BELIEVE AT 46,000.

SO THIS WOULD 50 55 55.

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THIS WOULD BRING HER UP INTO BELOW WHAT JACK'S MAKING.

BUT IT'S COMPARABLE TO WHAT SOME OF THE OTHER OFFICE, UH, PURCHASING AGENCIES, ALL PURCHASING AGENT OFFICES HAVE, BUT NOT TOTALLY.

THEY'RE NOT AS, SHE'S STILL NOT BY FAR LISA, I THINK YOU WOULD AGREE FOR THAT.

SHE'S STILL BY FAR NOT THE HIGHEST ONE ON LIST, BUT THIS WOULD BRING HER UP.

2 55 HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH NO LISA, I I THINK I STATED THAT CORRECTLY.

IT DOES.

YOU DID THE SURVEY.

YES.

AND IT'S YOUR, IT'S LIKE A MIDDLE TOP.

YEAH, IT'S KIND OF IN THE MIDDLE.

THE YES SIR.

WHAT'S THAT? THAT'S A SIMILAR TO THE DA'S OFFICE SALARY CORRECTIONS I THE SOMEONE'S BASE SALARY.

AND SO THAT INCREASED BY 1001 FOUR.

THAT WAS A MISTAKE ON MY PART.

THE NEXT FIVE OF THESE ARE VERY SIMILAR.

UM, HR IS THE SAME THING.

I HAD A INCORRECT NUMBER IN THERE.

UM, WITH THE K-S-O-J-S-R-O AND NINE OH ONE CALL CENTER, THEY HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE TRANSFERRING OUT OR PEOPLE RETIRING AND WHO HAD LONGEVITY.

SO SOME OF THOSE ARE JUST INCREASE OR DECREASES 'CAUSE SOMEONE WHO LEFT AND HAD LONGEVITY, IT DECREASES.

OKAY.

SO, UM, BUT FOR THE NUMBERS THAT KSO SALARY CORRECTION WAS DECREASING THE BUDGET BY $711, JAIL WAS INCREASING BY 4,647 SOO IS DECREASING $2,354, THE NINE ONE ONE CALL CENTER INCREASING 11,965.

AND THE LAST ITEM IS A RAISE GIVEN THE PAM QUARTER, INCREASING THE BUDGET BY 4,000 3 45 3 600 TO THE BASE SALARY, WHICH TOTAL SAME AS THE REVENUE 5 7 99 I BELIEVE.

WHENEVER I FIGURED ALL OF THESE, THE 600 SINCE IT WAS ALREADY DISCUSSED IN PREVIOUS ITERATIONS OF THIS.

THIS IS JUST THE DIFFERENCES FROM THE AUGUST 12TH BUDGET MEETING TO THE AUGUST 23RD BUDGET MEETING.

SO BECAUSE THOSE 600 INCREASES WERE ACTUALLY INCLUDED IN THAT, UM, THIS 3,600 IS JUST THAT BASE SELLER INCREASE.

IT DOES NOT TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THAT $600, THE 42.

SO ESSENTIALLY YES IT WOULD BE 1400.

SO THEY GET THE 600 ON TOP OF THEIR RAISE.

BUT COUNTY PARK AND DISTRICT CLERK EMPLOYEES DON'T.

AND AM I CORRECT AND THIS ONE AND THIS ONE CASE, THAT'S HOW WE HAVE IT PUT IN THERE.

RIGHT NOW WHAT THEY DECIDE IS WHAT THEY DECIDE THIS WAS, THIS WAS OVER THIS 43, I'M SORRY THIS WAS OVER BACK LAST YEAR.

THIS WAS WHAT THAT CAME FROM.

THIS 3,600 TO THE BASE SALARY IS INCREASED TO HER BASE SALARY FOR NEXT YEAR BUDGET.

THIS NOT THAT ANYTHING IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH.

CORRECT.

UM, MY REASON FOR THAT IS, IS THAT FOUND WHERE'S LOTS OF HATS AND WORK ON LOTS OF DIFFERENT PROJECTS PEOPLE, I FEEL SHE'S TO THAT.

AND SO THAT'S WHAT PAGE IS IT WOULD BE ON THE NO, IT NOT WHATCHA LOOKING FOR LAST YEAR? ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT BUDGET, SALARY? IT'S NOT GONNA HAVE, IT'S NOT GONNA HAVES BUT PAGE WHAT PAGE ON THE VERY TOP, UH, DO YOU WANNA GO TO PAGE 55 OF YOUR BUDGET DOCUMENT? YOU CAN LOOK AT THE, THE DIFFERENCE ON THAT DEPARTMENT IF THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE

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ASKING FOR.

YEAH, PAGE FIVE, PAGE 55.

AND IF YOU'RE LOOKING FOR THE, WHAT THE BASE SALARY WAS THIS YEAR, 30.

SO YOU HAVE A QUESTION? NO, AND UH, WHILE WE'RE LOOKING HERE, THERE, UH, THERE ARE OTHER PEOPLE THAT HAVE UH, TALK TO ME ABOUT RACES.

SO, UH, GEORGE, I THINK YOU HAVE TALKED ABOUT SOME INCREASES FOR SOME OF YOUR STAFF.

YES, WE PRESENTED TODAY, WE HAD THE HEARING TRY TO BRING OUR FOLKS ABOVE CLERICAL SALARY TO BRING THEM INTO AN ENTRY LEVEL WHAT METROPLEX GATES FOR IT POSITION.

AND NOW THAT WE'VE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOW HAVING FOLKS THAT DO CLERICAL FUNCTIONS AND SO ON WILL BE MAKING MORE THAN THEIR BASE PAY.

SO THESE FOLKS DO A LOT OF WORK AND WHAT THEY DO IS CRITICAL.

A LOT OF THESE OTHER FOLKS CAN NOT DO, YOU KNOW, THE JOB OF A CERTAIN DAY AND WE DON'T DO OUR JOB CORRECTLY AND ACCURATELY.

EVERYBODY GOES HOME.

SO WHAT I ASKED FOR WAS TO GET THESE FOLKS, I THINK I'M INTERRUPTING YOU JUDGE.

I DON'T WANNA INTERRUPT JUDGE.

PARDON? YOU WERE BUSY ON I DIDN'T WANT INTERRUPT.

BUT ANYWAY, THAT'S THE I WANTED YOU TO, SO THE POINT, THE POINT WAS WE WANT TO GET, WE WANT TO BRING THEM TO THE SAME BASE BY NORMALIZE CODE AND HAVE IT ALL THE SAME BASIS BEFORE LEGAL NOTICE WILL BE POSTED CONCERNING THE, UH, SALARY THAT TODAY'S PAPER, OR NOT TODAY PAPER, BUT PAPER.

AND UH, THEN THIS IS THE OTHER AD THAT WILL BE, UH, POSTED.

AND THIS IS WITH FRESH INFORMATION THAT WE GOT BECAUSE OF OUR BOND SALE THAT WE HAD THIS MORNING AND WE'RE TRYING REASON YOU WOULD LOOK AT THIS ONE FIRST.

WHAT WE'VE DONE IS REFLECT THE TAX YEAR.

UH, AND ACTUALLY WE'D ACTUALLY HAD 50 BECAUSE THE BONDS WE PROJECTED TO SELL TIRE, BUT AFTER THE BOND RAISED PREMIUM, WE WERE ABLE TO DROP THAT 5 8, 8 7, UH, RATHER THAN FIVE NINE.

SO, SO IT DID SAY THAT.

SO YOU CAN LOOK TAX RATE, UH, IT DOES GO UP ANY UH, 1.20 CENTS FROM LAST YEAR.

ALL THAT IS TO THE BONDS.

IT IS ABOVE THE EFFECTIVE TAX RATE, WHICH MEANS WE'LL HAVE TO HAVE THE HEARINGS SCHEDULE AND THE ROLLBACK TAX RATE IS 60 CENTS.

UH, AND A FEW DEC ROLLBACK TAX.

SO WE DO NOT HAVE HAVE THAT.

UH, AND THEN YOU CAN SEE DOWN AT THE BOTTOM, THE FIRST HEARING WOULD BE ON SEPTEMBER 6TH.

UH, AND THEN THE UH, SECOND HEARING WOULD BE ON SEPTEMBER 12TH.

AND THOSE WERE BASED PREVIOUS HEARING.

UH, THESE WERE THE ADS THAT WERE GOING IN THE PAPER MEET ARE LEGAL DEADLINES.

THE OTHER A YOU HAVE IS THE, UH, SAL, UH, FOR THE ELECTED OFFICIALS.

AND YOU CAN HAVE A SALARY IN HERE THAT IS BELOW THIS AMOUNT, BUT IT CAN'T BE.

SO THIS IS JUST THE INCREASES.

NOW THIS IS THE INCREASES.

YOU DON'T HAVE TO THE WHOLE SALARY HERE, BUT THIS IS THE INCREASE.

YOU HAD MENTIONED THE 2 CENTS OR WHATEVER MAY GO BACK TO ROAD BRIDGE HUNDRED 40,000.

YEAH.

AND THAT'S WHAT I UH, WELL IF WE DO THAT, UH, WE WOULD, I THINK THAT WOULD INCREASE THE ROAD RIDGE TAX, YOU KNOW THAT AMOUNT.

BUT WE ALSO RAISE TAXES,

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WHATEVER PROPERTY OR MAYBE SOMETHING I SURE.

BUT THE WAY THIS IS WRITTEN DOWN, IT, THE SAME AMOUNT HAS BEEN GOING IN THE ROAD.

THE BRIDGE AND UH, THE GENERAL FUND WOULD BE THE SAME THAT WE'VE HAD FOR THE SAKE THE LAST FIVE OR SIX YEARS.

UH, BUT THE BONDS CAN'T GET CHEAPER.

THAT'S WHAT THEY HUNDRED THOUSAND.

SO THAT WAS LITTLE BIT.

YES, ABOUT A MILLION.

EVERYBODY WHAT WE, I KNOW AN'S GOT SEND QUICK READY SPRINT.

MONICA GAVE US A DEADLINE.

NO, EVERYBODY.

OKAY.

OKAY, GOOD.

ALRIGHT.

BACK TO THE UH, YES MA'AM.

CAN I PUT MY FOOT IN MY MOUTH? SURE.

I WANT, I WANT ALL YOU COMMISSIONERS.

I WANNA TALK TO A MINUTE.

I'M GONNA WAIT FOR COMMISSIONER OFFICE.

I'M BUSY.

OKAY.

I WOULDN'T BE IN A SMART OUT, LIKE, I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE YOU WEREN'T BUSY LOOKING AT SOMETHING.

UM, I'VE BEEN HERE FIVE YEARS ALRIGHT.

AND I'VE BEEN THROUGH THE BUDGET PROCESS EVER SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE.

AND I'VE NOTICED THAT SOMETIMES YOU'LL APPROVE A BUDGET AND YOU CUT CERTAIN THINGS OUT AND GIVE OTHER THINGS.

AND WHEN YOU DO THOSE CERTAIN DEPARTMENTS AND CERTAIN PEOPLE AND CERTAIN ELECTED OFFICIALS WILL COME BACK AND TALK TO Y'ALL, TRY TO GIVE YOU INFORMATION TO JUSTIFY WHAT THEY ASKED FOR.

AND YOU WIND UP TELL 'EM, DO YOU FIND THE MONEY AND LET'S DO IT.

OKAY.

MY REASONING IS IN COURT MONDAY WHEN THE AGENDA ITEM CAME UP ABOUT WHAT THE, THE SALARY COMMITTEE WAS GOING TO RECOMMEND TO THE COURT.

HE, THE COMMISSIONER THERE SAID 600 ACROSS THE BOARD.

THE $600 IS NOT THE PROBLEM.

WE'VE GOT IT IN THE BUDGET FOR EVERY EMPLOYEE.

OKAY.

IT'S ALREADY FIGURED.

THE PROBLEM WAS WITH THE POLICY, YOU NEED TO JUST RESET THAT POLICY STATEMENT SAYING IF IT DOESN'T AFFECT YOUR BUDGET IN FUTURE YEARS, AND THEN IT WOULD CREATE THIS TENSION AND STRESS AND HURT WITH THESE TWO DEPARTMENTS THAT DID THAT BECAUSE THEY HAD 40,000 FOR A PERSON BUDGETED THAT RETIRED AND THEY HIRED SOMEBODY AT 35 AND THEY GAVE THEM 5,000.

I DIDN'T EVEN USE THOSE DEPARTMENTS IN MY EXAMPLE, WHEN I SPOKE TO Y'ALL, I SAID I HAD A POSITION, I DIDN'T HIRE SOMEBODY FOR THREE MONTHS, LEFT ME 7,000 AND SOMETHING AND I COULD HAVE GAVE EVERYBODY A RAISE USING 6,100 OF IT AND IT WOULD'VE HAD A $40,000 IMPACT TO THIS BUDGET THAT YOU'RE FIXING TO TRY TO PASS.

MY REASON IS I'M NOT FUSSING AND I'M NOT TRYING TO BE A SMART BUTT.

OKAY? I'M TRYING TO GET YOU TO BE REASONABLE AND UNDERSTAND SOME OF THESE PEOPLE THAT PROPERLY DESERVE THAT LITTLE $600 REALLY NEED IT AND YOU'RE FIXING TO CUT IT OUT ON SOME OF THOSE PEOPLE.

BUT THAT WASN'T THEIR DECISION TO GET THAT LITTLE RAISE THAT WAS THAT DEPARTMENT HEAD TRYING TO HELP THEIR, THEIR EMPLOYEES IS, IS WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY.

SO JUST CAN KIND OF CONSIDER THAT.

AND IF I ASK TO SPEAK TO AGAIN, Y'ALL SHUT UP.

OKAY.

OKAY.

DO YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS ABOUT THAT? I HAS CREATED PROBLEMS. FIGURE OUT WHAT WE'LL, YEAH, AND THE COMMITTEE CAN THE COMMITTEE CHAIRMAN, COMMITTEE CHAIR.

WELL IT CLEAR LAST YOU EXCEED YOUR VOTE.

THE CURRENT FISCAL YEAR SAID YOU CAN'T EXCEED THIS YEAR.

DIDN'T SAY ANYTHING ABOUT THE FUTURE YEARS.

YEAH, THEY DIDN'T INCREASE THEIR FUNDING.

NO SIR.

THIS YEAR.

NO SIR.

JUST IT SAYS RIGHT THERE IN THE PARAGRAPH,

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THE WAY WE WERE EVEN SAID THE THING.

NO, YOU SHOULDA.

THAT DIDN'T MEAN THAT NEXT YEAR YOU CAN'T EXCEED YOUR BUDGET.

THIS IS YOUR BUDGET.

THAT'S YOUR BUDGET.

THIS IS THE SAME.

OR IF YOU GET A 50 BUDGET, IT'S, IT'S 50,000 NEXT YEAR UNTIL WE CHANGE IT.

I MEAN THAT'S, THAT'S YOUR BUDGET AND YOU, THE WORDING WAS VAGUE.

HMM.

THE WORDING VAGUE.

THE WORDING IN THAT'S VERY VAGUE.

IT IS VAGUE.

THE WORDING THAT WAS WHAT WAS APPROVED.

YEAH.

WE'LL CHANGE IT NOVEMBER WHEN WE DO THE, WHERE IT CAN'T SAY'S ALREADY RE WE CAN'T.

WE'LL DO, SO HOW MANY DOLLARS ARE WE TALKING ABOUT HERE THAT PEOPLE ARE AFFECTED BECAUSE THEY WENT OVER THE BUDGET? HOW MANY? CURRENTLY IT'S JUST THOSE TWO DEPARTMENTS.

SO IT'S HOW MANY DOLLARS? ABOUT 25,000 GRAND.

AND YOU KNOW, IF YOU CUT THAT EXTRA POSITION LIKE WE WERE TALKING ABOUT, THAT'S 35.

SO YOU'RE 10,000 TO THE GOOD AND YOU'RE STILL GIVING ALL THE EMPLOYEES ONE DEPARTMENT.

THEY'RE 20 WON'T AFFECT DEPARTMENT.

YOU DIDN'T GET CUT ANYBODY, RIGHT? CORRECT.

I DIDN'T CUT ANYBODY.

OKAY.

AND SHE HAS, WELL, LEMME LEMME SAY SOMETHING TOO.

WE DON'T HAVE TO, THE THING WE HAD TO DO TODAY WAS TO GET THE, WE KNOW WE'RE NOT GOING OVER THE TAX RATE THAT WE'VE GOT POSTED OUT THERE.

WE KNOW THAT.

SO WE'VE GOT THAT POSTED.

WE KNOW WE'RE NOT GOING CHANGE THE ELECTRIC OFFICIAL SALARY BECAUSE WE'VE AGREED ON THAT.

IF ANYTHING, THEY GO DOWN, THEY JUST CAN'T GO UP.

UH, I DOUBT HAPPEN NOW BECAUSE THAT WILL HAVE A GRIEVANCE BECAUSE APPROVED IN THERE.

SO SOME OF THE STUFF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TODAY, THE BUDGET IS NOT OFFICIAL UNTIL WE ADOPT THE BUDGET.

SO IT'S STILL A WORKING BUDGET AND IF YOU WANT TO SPEND A LITTLE MORE TIME AND WHEN WE MEET AGAIN NEXT WEEK ON WHATEVER, IT'S, WE COULD PROBABLY MEET ONE DAY NEXT WEEK TO KIND OF HASH THROUGH SOME OF THIS STUFF ON SALARIES.

AND I, YOU KNOW, SALARIES IS, I KNOW IS UH, IS ALWAYS AN ISSUE.

UH, BECAUSE OUR SALARIES ARE, THERE IS NO, THERE'S NO MAP TO THEM.

THEY'RE KIND OF ALL THERE, KIND ALL OVER THE PLACE.

AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO STUDY I THINK.

AND MAYBE THAT'S PART OF THE, TO DO THAT.

SO MAYBE ON SOME OF THESE DECISIONS WHERE WE'RE, I MEAN YOU CAN ARGUE BOTH SIDES.

I THINK THE DEPARTMENT HEADS SHOULD HAVE THE ABILITY TO, UH, LOOK AT WHAT THEY NEED TO DO, BUT SHOULD BE DONE THROUGH A DIFFERENT MANNER THAN WHAT WE'VE DON FOR.

IT SHOULD BE DONE AT DURING THIS BUDGET TIME.

SO, UH, I MEAN WE'VE GOT, WE'VE GOT THIS ISSUE WITH GEORGE WHO WOULD LIKE IF SOMETHING HIS EMPLOYEES, I REMEMBER LAST YEAR YOU BUDGETS AND WE, YOU HAD SOME EMPLOYEES YOU WANTED TO GIVE RAISES AND WE DID, WE BUDGET IT FOR AND ALL THAT WHICH WERE ABOVE, YOU KNOW WHAT, THE MAP WAS 12 LAST YEAR.

SO YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A HISTORY OF DOING THAT.

BUT AS, AS IN CONCRETE TODAY, WE DON'T HAVE TO DO THAT.

WE CAN LISTEN TO UH, SOME OF THESE OTHERS THAT UH, SO CAN I GIVE A BRIEF HISTORICAL PERSPECTIVE ON THAT? I REALLY NOT, BUT I GUESS YOU CAN.

BRIEFLY, DURING THE NINETIES WE GAVE A CHUNK OF MONEY TO DEPARTMENT HEADS.

THE DEPARTMENT HEADS DIVVIED OUT THE WAY IT NEEDED, HOW THEY CHOSE SOME DEPARTMENTS.

IF I WAS A ROPER AND I HAD COWS OR IF I WAS A RODEO GUY, THEY WOULD MAKE RAISES.

IF I HAD A CLICK, THEY WOULD ALWAYS GET THE EXTRA MONEY.

IN ONE PARTICULAR CASE, SOMEONE WAS PROMOTED TO THE RANK OF MAJOR POSITION THAT DIDN'T EXIST JUST TO GIVE YOU MORE MONEY.

THE COURT IN NOW DECIDED THAT WAS FOOLISH AND THEY PUT A STOP TO IT AND THE COURT CONTROLLED THE SALARIES.

SO JUST KEEP THAT IN MIND WHEN YOU CHOOSE TO DO THAT.

IF WE HAVE A HISTORY OF DOING THIS FAILURE, WE DO GET TO DID DEAL BASED ON ALL OUR ROAD REPORTS SO EVERYBODY KNOW THE PERCENTAGE OF THE ROADS, PERCENTAGE OF BUDGET THAT EVERYONE GETS.

AND I DON'T KNOW HOW THE PERCENTAGES CAME ABOUT OVER THE YEARS, BUT IT'S WHAT IT IS.

AND I KNOW THAT UH, YOU CAN,

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THAT'S, I KNOW TWO HAS A UNIQUE KIND OF THING, BUT IT'S MOSTLY ALL ASPHALT AND IT'S EXPENSIVE TO FIX THOSE THINGS.

ONE, THREE AND FOUR ARE PRETTY MUCH THE SAME.

CHIP SEAL, VALVE, DIRT, WHATEVER I GOT.

BUT YOU CAN SEE THE PERCENTAGE OF PERCENTAGE BUDGET.

I'M KIND OF BRINGING UP THE REAR.

SO I YOU BUDGET, I WON, I WON ON A COUPLE OF DEALS, MILES, A PERCENTAGE OF ROADS.

BUT I'M LOSING ON PERCENTAGE OF THE BUDGET.

THAT'S ONLY REASON FOR MUCH PERCENT OF THE BUDGET NOT I'M LOSING.

NO, YOU'RE NOT LOSING FACT.

YOU SHOULD LOSE A SO ANYWAY, I NOT THAT.

YEAH, I'M WAITING FOR IT WHENEVER IF AND WHATEVER WE DO SOMETHING THAT'S JUST FOR RECORD RIGHT NOW WITH THE 30% OF THAT MANY MILE ROADS.

WE CAN'T, WE CAN'T MAINTAIN WHAT WE HAVE BECAUSE WE'RE GOING IN THE ARREARS EACH YEAR.

MONEY DONE THING.

WE CAN'T, YOU CAN'T TAKE, YOU CAN'T TAKE 2 96 MILES IN CHIP CELL, NEVER WILL.

SOME YOU GET AHEAD OF YOURSELF, YOU GET TOO MANY MILES OF CHIP CELL.

YOU CAN'T KEEP UP.

EVEN IF WE DO NOT NEED TO EXCEED THE AMOUNT OF CHIP ROAD.

MATTER OF FACT, RIGHT NOW WE HAVE TOO MANY MILES OF CHIP ROAD CANNOT MAINTAIN.

THERE'S NO BASE THERE.

SAME THING.

NO BASE AND YOU CAN'T BE DONE.

MOST OF THEM TO BE RAILROAD.

WE MAY HAVE TO MAINTAIN THAT WAS A COMMON REELECTION TACTIC IN THE PAST EVIDENTLY.

SO IT WORKED.

IT WAS, NOW IT'S COMING BACK TO HARNESS BECAUSE THERE'S NO WAY YOU, YOU CAN'T SAIL.

THAT'S THE REASON THAT I TRY TO KEEP ABOUT 85 TO 90 MILES OF ROCK ROAD AND GOT ABOUT 30 DIRT.

SO YOU CAN'T AFFORD TO PULL IT ALL TOGETHER.

YOU CAN'T NEVER KEEP UP.

SOME OF THESE OLD CHIP ARE THIS ALL DAY LONG THING COMING COUNT.

I THINK THERE'S SOME COUNTIES ACROSS THAT JUST TAKE 25% WHATEVER, YOU KNOW, REGARDLESS OF OUR PRECINCT.

I'M NOT SAYING THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO DO.

NO, I KNOW, BUT EVEN BENTON COUNTY ONE AND THEN COUNTY WAS EVEN THE UNIT SYSTEM AND THEY VOTED OUT IT BECAUSE GUESS WHAT HAPPENED WHEN IT GOT DOWN TO THE UNIT SYSTEM ALL WENT TO FROM, SO ALL OF A SUDDEN, LIKE YOURS YOU DIDN'T ANYBODY, WE DIDN'T SEE ANYTHING.

YOU DIDN'T SEE ANYTHING.

SO THEY HAD TO GET OUT IT.

SO EVERYBODY'S GONNA PITCH FOR THEIR REASON FOR WELL THERE WAS AN ARTICLE OUT THAT TALKING ABOUT TAKING SOME OF THEIR MARKETS BACK TO ROCK ROAD.

THAT'S HAPPEN.

INMAN COUNTY.

NOW, WHETHER INTENTIONALLY OR NOT THEY, BUT ALL MY, I'VE ALWAYS HEARD HE BOUGHT DOWN ON DIRT ROAD, YOU GONNA DIE DIRT.

NOBODY'S GONNA PAY IT FOR YOU IF THE, OKAY.

ANYWAY, OBVIOUSLY WE'RE GOING NEED TO HAVE ANOTHER WORKSHOP.

LET'S GO BACK TO THIS ISSUE GEORGE.

OR WOULD YOU LIKE TO, DON'T THINK, WOULD YOU LIKE TO MAYBE, UH, UH, RECESS COME BACK? WELL I CAN'T.

I'VE GOT, I'VE GOT EVENING THIS AFTERNOON.

UH, MAYBE WE COULD UH, BE GONE NEXT, NEXT TWO OR THREE DAYS.

MAYBE WE COULD COME BACK.

UH, WE'RE HAVING A MEETING ON THE SIXTH.

THAT'S TOO LATE.

LET'S HAVE ONE SATURDAY.

JUST ANOTHER, JUST ANOTHER WORK DAY IN THAT COMMISSIONER FOR COMMISSIONER.

YES.

WOULD YOU BE AVAILABLE TO COME BACK MONDAY THE 29TH SOMETIME CARRY IT THROUGH SOME OF THESE ISSUES? RIGHT.

UH, WITH JUST NINE O'CLOCK MONDAY MORNING

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PARTY.

I, BEFORE Y'ALL ADJOURN, I KIND OF WANTED TO SAY SOMETHING IF I COULD.

SURE.

UM, SO THIS IS MY FIFTH BUDGET OF SITTING THROUGH AND UM, I HAVE ASKED FOR SALARIES TO BE LOOKED AT IN MY DEPARTMENT FOR FIFTH TIME AND EVERY TIME IT GETS PUSHED INTO THE RUG AND IT NEVER GETS LOOKED AT, I'M GOING OUT.

I CAN'T DO ANYTHING ELSE.

SO I KIND OF WANNA MAKE SURE THAT Y'ALL LOOK AT THAT BECAUSE OUR OFFICE IS ALWAYS CONSTANTLY COMPARED TO CLERICAL.

WE ARE NOT CLERICAL.

I KNOW GEORGE WAS FINISHING UP WHAT HE WAS GONNA SAY AND DIDN'T GET TO FINISH.

BUT IF, SAME FOR US, IF WE DON'T DO OUR WORK, PEOPLE DON'T GET PAID.

PEOPLE DON'T GET INSURANCE.

SO IF WE MAKE MISTAKES IT MESSES UP EVERYTHING.

WE'RE NOT A CLERICAL JOB.

WE SHOULD BE CONSIDERED THAT.

WE SHOULD BE COMPARED TO OTHER OFFICES IN THAT NATURE.

NOT CLERICALS.

THAT'S ALL I'M GONNA SAY.

'CAUSE IT KEEPS GETTING SWOOPED UNDER THROUGH EVERY YEAR.

AND THEN I GET, I GET TOLD THAT I WAITED TOO LONG, I DIDN'T ADDRESS IT, BUT I'VE ALWAYS TOLD I CAN'T ADDRESS SALARIES.

SO HERE I AM ADDRESSING IT.

I WON'T BE HERE NEXT WEEK FOR Y'ALL BUDGET WORKSHOP.

SO I REALLY HOPE THAT'S SOMETHING Y'ALL CONSIDER IN OUR DEPARTMENT.

TIME AND TIME AGAIN, I DON'T THINK PEOPLE UNDERSTAND WHAT MY DEPARTMENT DOES, WHAT WE DO NOW HARD.

WE WORK AND I KNOW EVERYBODY IN THIS COUNTY WORKS HARD, BUT I'M JUST SAYING IT WAS A NEW NEW DEPARTMENT THAT WAS CREATED AND IT WAS NEVER EVER UP TO PAR WHERE IT SHOULD BE.

AND NOW I'VE GOTTEN THE JOB RESPONSIBILITIES IN PLACE, GOT PEOPLE IN PLACE THAT DESERVE THAT AND THEY'RE NOT NEW THEN.

SO THAT'S ALL I SAY.

TAKE NINE O'CLOCK WORK AIRPLANE.

SURE.

OKAY, WE'LL, UH, COME BACK AND WE'LL TRY TO HAVE A LATER FIGURE ON THIS.

I JUST WANTED TO, WE JUST RECEIVED THE UPDATED UH, TARIFF AND THE POWER CENTER I BELIEVE FORTER, UM, FRIDAY AFTERNOON AND WE'VE ALREADY BUDGETED THE TAR TIFF THAT INCREASE, UM, IT'S ABOUT A THOUSAND DOLLARS SHORT.

NOT A HUGE THING, BUT THE POWER CENTER IS $80,000.

THAT HAS NOT BEEN LITTLE OVER 80,000 GENERAL, I'M JUST, I'M SORRY, HOW LONG WE NEED TO PAY 80,000.

THAT HASN'T BEEN BUDGETED YET.

THIS SHOULD BE THE FIRST YEAR THAT WE'RE MAKING THAT PAYMENT TIME CENTER.

NOW THE OTHER PART OF THAT TOO IS WE DID RECEIVE SOME AROUND $95,000 OF THE, UH, CAPITAL CREDITS FUND.

AND UH, I CHECKED, UH, WROTE JIM ALLISON A UH, AN EMAIL AND ASKED HIM COULD WE USE THE CAPITAL CREDITS TO PAY FOR SOME OF THE, UH, BECAUSE IT IS THE ECONOMIC INCENTIVE AND HIS OPINION WAS YES WE CAN.

SO WE HAVE THAT AMOUNT OF THAT BUDGET, UH, APPROXIMATELY I'M BUT THE AND THE POWER CENTER THAT JUST THE REIMBURSEMENT OF MONEY THAT WE COLLECT AND THEN GIVE IT BACK TO US.

RIGHT.

THEY COLLECTED, WE'RE JUST GONNA GIVE IT BACK TO THEM.

I I REALLY DON'T LIKE THE WAY IT'S BEEN SET UP BECAUSE TO ME THAT SHOULD BE GOING AGAINST THE PROPERTY TAX THAT WE PAID OUT.

BUT, AND IT SHOULDN'T NET AGAINST THE PROPERTY TAX.

I MEAN HOW IT HAVE THE CONTRACT ACCOUNT THE LIABILITY THAT WE OWE THAT MONEY, YOU KNOW, BUT IT'S JUST THE WAY IT'S BEEN SET UP FOR BUDGET PURPOSES THOUGH.

IT WOULDN'T, IT WOULD BE.

OKAY, SO HOW MUCH IS IN THE UH, UN CAPITAL CREDIT? WE CURRENTLY HAVE BUDGET $192,698.

THAT'S MONEY THAT IS RIGHT? CORRECT.

OKAY.

SO IF YOU CHOOSE TO, WE CAN PAY ACCORDING TO WHAT JIM ALLISON SAID, WE CAN PAY THE POWER CENTER AND THE TIFF OUT OF THAT FUND.

WE CURRENTLY HAVE BUDGET AT 40,000, 76,000 AND THEN THE 80,000 WOULD BE FOR THAT CENTER.

I REMEMBER YOU SAYING SOMETHING ABOUT KAUFMAN CENTER.

WE HAVEN'T ANYTHING ABOUT THAT.

I'M SORRY.

NOT, WE HAVEN'T RECEIVED ANYTHING ON THAT.

SO WE DUNNO BUDGET.

IT'S, IT'S ONLY GONNA BE 68, 76.

ALL THOSE TOGETHER IS GONNA IT SATURDAY.

ALL THREE OF SO IS IS THAT AGREEABLE THAT FOR PAYING THOSE OUT OF THE CAN? PARDON? I I WE'RE NOT, I JUST NEED NO OF THE HEAD OR, SO WE PREPARED THE DOCUMENT THAT ALRIGHT, WE'LL MEET, UH, NEXT MONDAY MORNING THE 29TH AND WE'LL CONTINUE THIS DISCUSSION AND I WOULD IMAGINE THE, SOME OF THE DEPARTMENT HEAD CONTACT YOU ABOUT SALVATION.

SURE.

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THAT'S KIND OF WHERE WE'RE THOUGH.

GET US THAT LIST.

SO WE DO THAT.

I'VE GOT LIST, WE ADDED A COUPLE POSITIONS EARLIER IN YOUR DEPARTMENT AND THE, UH, PUBLIC WORKS.

PUBLIC WORKS AND RANDY PREPARED A DOCUMENT I BEFORE LEAVE TODAY, SHOW THAT DEPARTMENT FUNCTION AND FIRE MARSH AND, UH, ENVIRONMENTAL RANDY PUT THESE TOGETHER.

I YOU CAN SEE HOW OPERATE AND THE SECOND PAGE DEAL IS WHENEVER WE PUT THOSE THREE DEPARTMENTS UNDER ONE SUPERVISOR IN THE POSITIONS THAT WERE CUT AT THAT, AT THAT TIME REDUCTION INCREASE REVENUE FOR THE COUNTY WITH LESS DOUBT.

BUT WE HAVE REACHED A POINT NOW TO WHERE THE VOLUME, THE GROWTH OF THE COUNTY, WE'RE AT THE POINT WHERE WE CAN NO LONGER MAINTAIN THE LEVEL OF, YOU KNOW, WORK PERFORMANCE BECAUSE OF THE VOLUME INDICATED THERE WHERE WE USED TO BE AT A MUCH LOWER, UH, DOLLAR AMOUNT FOR THE COUNTY.

AND NOW I BELIEVE THOSE DOLLAR AMOUNTS WOULD EVEN MORE THAN SUPPLIES FOR THE, UH, STAFFING REQUEST.

YEAH.

WE'VE GONE FROM THE, THE DEPARTMENTS UH, TAKING TAX MONEY TO OPERATE, TO ACTUALLY OPERATING ON THE FEES THEY GENERATED.

YES SIR.

THAT'S, THAT'S THE BOTTOM LINE.

BUT THE SAME FIRE MARSHAL'S OFFICE, WE, WE ACTUALLY DO NOT HAVE THAT THIRD STAFF MEMBER IN FIRE MARSHAL'S OFFICE NOW WITH DUTIES, UH, IS ADMINISTRATIVE, SOME OF THAT'S DUE TO THE FEE.

YEAH.

YES.

THAT'S ONLY A $10 FEE INCREASE.

WE GONNA INCREASE THE FEES.

WE HAVEN'T HAD ANY FEES FROM THE, UH, I THINK THE SHERIFF AND CONSTABLE SAY, UH, HAD AN OPPORTUNITY IF THEY HAVE NOT PRESENTED ANYTHING.

I THINK RANDY HAD PROPOSED THAT WE GO UP $10 ON THE, WHICH WOULD STILL BE BELOW THE SURROUNDING ON WHICH WOULD TAKE CARE OF THE VEHICLE WHAT AMOUNT OF, UH, NOT EVEN $2 A MONTH ON AVERAGE PER HOUSE AND IT WOULD ALLOW YOU TO BUY VEHICLES.

SO ANYWAY, THIS IS JUST, WHY ARE AS FAR AS THE, THE PUBLIC WORK SIDE, THE SECOND PIECE IS THAT WHAT WE'RE YEAH, THE, THIS PIECE, SEE THE AVERAGE RIGHT NOW IS 25 TO 30 CONFIGURED.

ROCKWALL COUNTY IS 55 WE'RE AT, IS BENZA COUNTY IS AT 25.

I THINK THEY JUST WENT TO 30 AFTER CHUCK LEFT.

REVISIT COURT ON UPDATING OUR ADOPTED, UH, FIRE CODE REAR STEEL CURRENTLY IN THE 2006 CONDITION.

UH, THE STATE OF TEXAS HAS ALREADY MOVED UP AND ADOPTED THE CURRENT CONDITION AS WELL AS ALL OF OUR SURROUNDING MUNICIPALITIES, MUCH OUR CODE AND AS RELATED TO THE BUILDING, CONSTRUCTION, UH, INSPECTION AND SO FORTH.

YES SIR.

SEPARATE FROM THAT, I'M STILL IN THE PROCESS OF DOING A STUDY WITH SURROUNDING COUNTIES AS WHAT OUR CONSTRUCTIONS ARE VERSUS WHAT AMOUNT OF WORK IS PERFORMED.

UH, IT DOES APPEAR THAT WE ARE, ARE WELL BELOW ARM LAYER AS WELL.

UH, I DON'T, I DON'T BELIEVE IN GOING UP, YOU KNOW, UNLESS IT'S SHOWING THAT WE'RE ACTUALLY LOSING MONEY, UH, PERMIT.

BUT IT DOES APPEAR THAT THE SERVICES THAT WE'RE PROVIDING ARE SIGNIFICANTLY LESS ON OUR, UH, FIRE PERMIT FEES THAN WHAT I'M NOT PREPARED TO ADDRESS THAT BECAUSE I'M US SOME INFORMATION.

YES SIR.

YEAH, I, I'M KIND OF DEFENDING ON OTHER PEOPLE GETTING BACK WITH ME AND THAT'S NOT HAPPENING.

IT'S NOT MY PART.

IT'S NOT MY PART.

OKAY.

ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANYTHING BEFORE WE DISMISS FOR THE GOOD OF THE ORDER?

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NOTHING ABOUT THAT.

I GUY CALL ESTERDAY TAX CONSTRUCTION.

YES.

OKAY.

DO I HAVE A MOTION TO ADJOURN? MOTION.

MOTION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.