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UH, TO REGULAR MEETING OF THE COMMISSION COURT COUNTY.TODAY'S MONDAY, NOVEMBER THE 14TH.
UH, WE HAVE A FORUM PRESENT, SO WE'LL GO AHEAD AND, UH, BEGIN THE MEETING.
MAYBE JUST IN A MOMENT IF YOU HAVE AN ITEM ON THE AGENDA THAT YOU WISH TO SPEAK TO, UH, PLEASE FILL OUT A, UH, FORM.
UH, THEY'RE LOCATED ON THE, UH, UH, DESK BEHIND, UH, CHIEF BEAVERS.
AND, UH, GIVE THAT TO, UH, MS. HUGHES, OUR COUNTY CLERK, AND, UH, OR HER DEPUTY THERE.
AND SO, UH, RIGHT OVER HERE AND WE, AGAIN, I'VE ASKED, UH, COMMISSIONER, UH, SHANE TO GIVE TO, AND I'LL P Y'ALL PRAY WITH ME.
OUR MOST PRECIOUS HEAD TO THE FATHER.
WE, AGAIN, JUST FIRST ALWAYS WANNA THANK YOU FOR OUR MANY BLESSINGS.
WE JUST THANK YOU FOR BLESSING US TO LIVE IN A FREE COUNTRY, THAT WE CAN HAVE WALLS AND DO THINGS AND DO THE BUSINESS OF OUR GREAT COUNTY.
AND THAT WE HAVE PEOPLE THAT WILL, ARE OUR CARETAKERS AND THEY'RE OUR FIRST, UH, RESPONDERS AND OUR POLICEMEN THAT THEY ALL US ARE IN HARM'S WAY, AND ALSO THE SOLDIERS OF OUR GREAT NATION, THAT YOU SEND THEM HOME SAFELY FOR THEIR FAMILIES IN THEIR TOWN.
THANK YOU FOR THIS, UH, MEETING.
IGI TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES AMERICA AND TO THE FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD IN I WITH THE LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL FLAG UNDER FLAG.
I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO LEAD TEXAS, ONE STATE UNDER GOD, ONE INDIVISIBLE.
DO WE, UH, HAVE ANYONE THAT HAS, ALRIGHT, WE'LL GO RIGHT ON THE INTERVIEW AGENDA.
I DON'T, UH, HAVE ANY ROUTINE CORRESPONDENCE TO GIVE OUT.
I WOULD MAKE NOTE THAT WE'LL BE HAVING, THERE WAS AN ADDENDUM THAT WAS SENT OUT, UH, UH, LATER IN THE WEEK CONCERNING AN EXECUTIVE SESSION.
UH, AND WE'LL DO THAT VERY END OF THE MEETING AFTER WE'RE, UH, THE REGULAR MEETING.
AND, UH, SO IT'S ATTACHED SOLUTION.
AND SO, UH, ITEM NUMBER TWO IS THE ACCEPTANCE OF REGULAR MEETING MINUTES FOR OCTOBER THE 10TH, OCTOBER 24TH, SPECIAL MEETING MINUTES FOR OCTOBER THE 25TH AND OCTOBER THE 28TH, 2016 IS TO DISCUSS EDUCATION COUNTY CLERK'S OFFICE.
AND THEN THE C IS TO REVIEW REPORT FROM THE PUBLIC, HOW, WHO, AND YOU HAVE THE MEETING MINUTES.
AND YOU ALSO HAVE, I JUST WANTED TO MAKE A QUICK MENTION OF THE, UH, E THREE.
THAT'S OUR, UH, ELECTRICITY PROVIDER.
UH, UH, THEY DON'T, THEY'RE NOT THE WIRES COMPANY.
THEY'RE, UH, THEY'RE PEOPLE WE BUY OUR ELECTRICITY FROM.
AND, UH, WE, UH, REMEMBER WE SIGNED A CONTRACT, UH, SEVERAL MONTHS AGO MAYBE, I'M NOT SURE EXACTLY WHEN IT WAS, BUT YOU'LL NOTICE THAT, UH, IT HAS GONE DOWN QUITE A BIT.
AND THIS WAS PER OUR CONTRACT.
AND YOU CAN COMPARE, OF COURSE, NOVEMBER, 2016 AND DECEMBER, 2016 FOR THIS YEAR ARE, UH, ESTIMATES OF COURSE.
BUT, UH, IF YOU LOOK AT THE KILOWATT HOUR CHARGE, UH, YOU'LL NOTICE THAT, UH, THAT'S THE FOURTH COLUMN OVER.
UH, YOU'LL NOTICE THAT THIS YEAR IT LINES UP AT FOUR AND THEN NEXT YEAR, ENDING ON JANUARY OF THIS COMING YEAR, 20, IT DROPS FULL CENT TO, AND YOU CAN SEE COST PROJECT 12 MONTHS, ONE WILL BE IN 2018.
AND THE CONTRACT ALSO GOES THROUGH 2019.
SO WE'RE LOCKED IN THEM, BUT IT
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OF COURSE HAVE DELIVERY CHARGE ON TOP OF THIS.BUT IT'S VERY FAVOR GET THIS REPORT FROM THAT.
SO DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT, UH, ANY ON THE CONSENT? THE NEXT ITEM IS, UH, DISCUSSED.
CONSIDER A MAP AT AGREEMENT BETWEEN COUNTY AND LIBERTY MARKETING TO A THREE COUNTY MAP ON A 60 POUND, UH, AN OF PAPER.
AND, UH, THE DA'S OFFICE HAS HAD A, A CHANCE TO, UH, LOOK AT THIS, UH, AGREEMENT AND IT DOES NOT COST THE COUNTY ANYTHING.
UH, SO IF Y'ALL WOULD LIKE TO, UH, SPEAK TO IT, IT'S, UH, WELL THE ONLY THING THAT I DID DO IS JUST MAKE A FEW EDITS, UH, DISQUALIFY THAT IT'S NOT REPRESENTATIVE OF THE OFFICIAL COST MASS.
I SENT YOU GUYS THAT UPDATE VIA EMAIL, SO YOU GOT IT.
AND, UM, I WOULD ASK THE BOARD IF THEY'RE CONSIDERING ACCEPTING IT, THAT THEY WOULD ACCEPT THE CONTRACT WITH THOSE REVISIONS THAT MAKE THAT STIPULATION.
BUT OTHER THAN THAT, I DIDN'T REALLY HAVE COMMENTS ON THE, ON THE SIMPLE AGREEMENT THAT THEY SENT OVER DISCUSSION, DISCUSSION FOR ON THE LAST OF THIS.
I DID SET OR REVISION, THIS IS THE, THIS IS THE REVISED COPY.
IF YOU HAVE A RED ONE, IT'S NOT GONNA BE THE SAME.
BUT YOU MAY BE TALKING ABOUT A DIFFERENT PARAGRAPH.
THE MAIN REVISION COMES RIGHT HERE AND IT JUST SAYS THAT THEY WOULD HAVE A QUALIFYING STATEMENT THAT SAYS THAT THE MAP'S NOT PRODUCED BY HOFFMAN COUNTY AND IT'S NOT REPRESENTATIVE OF OUR OFFICIAL MAP.
OTHER THAN THAT, IF THEY WOULD, LIKE, IF A PRIVATE COMPANY WOULD LIKE TO PRODUCE AN MAP OF HOFFMAN COUNTY, THEY'RE WELCOME TO.
DO YOU THINK YOU WOULD BE IN OUR BEST INTEREST ON THIS LAST LINE HERE TO CHANGE THAT? WHERE IT SAYS LIBERTY MARKETING WILL NOT GO TO PRINT UNTIL AGREED MARKETING HAS APPROVAL TO COLMAN COUNTY, TEXAS.
SHOULDN'T WE OBJECT, UH, COMMISSIONER'S, COURT AND MAPPING DEPARTMENT? I THINK G NEEDS TO REVIEW THIS BEFORE THEY PRINT IT FOR, TO GET IT AS ACCURATE AS WE CAN.
BECAUSE THERE'S GONNA BE A LOT OF PEOPLE LOOK AT THAT AND THEY SAY, WELL THIS IS A COUNTY ROAD, YOU KNOW? YEAH.
AND THAT'S THE PURPOSE OF THE QUALIFYING STATEMENT.
BUT MY ASSUMPTION IS THAT IF IT COMES TO THE COUNTY TO BE LOOKED AT FOR MAP QUALITY, THEN THAT WOULD GO TO THE DEPARTMENT THAT DOES THAT.
BUT IF YOU WOULD WANNA ADD THAT, I DON'T SEE ANY PROBLEM WITH IT.
I HAVEN'T CORRESPONDED WITH THEM, SO I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF, I THINK IT WOULD BE CLEAR THAT THEY NEED TO COORDINATE WITH THE MATCHING DEPARTMENT AS TO GET IT AS ACCURATE AS POSSIBLE.
AND I MEAN, LIKE I SAID, I HAVEN'T TALKED TO THE PROJECT DIRECTOR AT ALL.
THE JUDGES SENT IT OVER TO US TO ADD ANY ADDITIONAL LANGUAGE.
SO I THINK AT THIS TIME WE COULD ADD WHATEVER WE WANTED.
LETTERS SO THAT EVERYBODY KNOW AN ADVERTISEMENT MAP.
THE JUDGE HAD STATED THAT IN PREVIOUS YEARS THE MAP HAD BEEN PRINTED.
PEOPLE HAD CALLED AND SAID, OH, IS THIS OFFICIAL MAP AND WE HAD TO MAKE A STATEMENT.
YEAH, THAT'S THE NEEDS TO, WE'VE REFERRED THESE FOLKS THAT THEY WOULD NEED TO COORDINATE THROUGH THE DEPARTMENT, BUT IT'S IN RIGHT.
ANY OTHER SUGGESTIONS OR MAKE IT SO THAT YOU SAY THAT YOU MAKE THE MOTION? SO, OKAY.
UH, MAKE A MOTION THAT WE, UH, ENDORSED THE MAP PRODUCED BY LIBERTY MARKING WITH THE ADDITION ON THE LAST PARAGRAPH TO INCLUDE, UH, WE'LL PRINT WITH APPROVAL OF KAMAN COUNTY COMMISSIONER'S COURT AND KAMAN GIS MAPPING DEPARTMENT.
THE MOTION, SAY, I'M SORRY, KAREN AND I ARE SLIGHTLY, WE DON'T WANT ENDORSE LANGUAGE THAT WE'RE ENDORSING IT, BUT WE, WE JUST, UM, ARE GIVING THEM APPROVAL TO IT.
THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT IT APPROVE.
JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THE MOTION'S CLARIFIED.
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RIGHT MATTER.IT SAYS LIBERTY MARKING WILL NOT GO TO PRINT UNTIL LIBERTY MARKING HAS APPROVAL.
HE CALLS THE COUNTY COMMISSIONER'S COURT AND PANEL A MOTION.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
ITEM NUMBER FOUR IS, UH, LISA? YES.
I WANTED TO ASK YOU ASK IF THE COURT, IF WE CAN, UM, DO ITEM NUMBER 12 OUT TIME.
UM, JUDGE RILEY HAS TO BE DALLAS IN A SHORT TIME.
AND SO IF WE COULD DO THAT ABSOLUTELY.
Y'ALL MIND? NO, I, WE'LL, WE'LL AHEAD.
DOWN 12 IS TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER IMPLEMENTATION OF A COLLECTIONS IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM.
CAN I COME UP AND APPROACH JUDGE? SURE.
THE ONLY THING IS I WANTED, UH, LAURA HERE AND BECAUSE THIS IS SOMETHING WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT, WE TALKED ABOUT IT AMONG WITH THE JUDGES.
I DON'T KNOW IF I CAN TALK TO YOU GUYS ABOUT THIS IS THE JUDGES AND DAVID DANIEL'S HERE FROM PROBATION AND I KNOW THERE'S OTHER INTERESTS.
MR. OLDFIELD'S HAD THIS PROGRAM THAT'S COMING UP THAT HAS TO BE IMPLEMENTED IN JANUARY.
SO I THINK IT'S A GOOD TIME THAT LEAST DISCUSS WHAT THE JUDGES HAD INVITED ME.
MS. DANIEL, YOU CAN HEAR ME OR YOU? YOU ARE WELCOME TO COME UP BECAUSE RIGHT NOW OUR SYSTEM FOR COLLECTION IS THE COUNTY CLERK COLLECTS FROM THE MISDEMEANOR COURTS AND DAVID FROM THE PROBATION COLLECTS FINE COURT REQUESTS FOR THE DISTRICT COURTS.
AND IT SEEMS LIKE THAT'S BEEN A GREAT THING.
WE HAVE HAD FROM DIFFERENT TIMES THROUGH THE HISTORY SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE AS A JUDGE SINCE 2003 THAT UH, LAURA HUGHES HAD BEEN THE COUNTY CLERK BY THE TIME AND SHE HAS COLLECTED THEN I THINK JUDGE, WHEN YOU CAME IN AND MAYBE JIM, YOU CAME, WE HAD A COLLECTION DEPARTMENT AND THEN DISBAND THAT AND MS. HUGHES TOOK IT BACK.
WE'VE GOT IT GOING BACK AND FORTH AT THAT AND NOW WE'RE BACK AT WORK.
THERE HAS BEEN NOW A CHANGE IN THE WAY THAT THE COLLECTION HAS TO BE PERFORMED.
AND IF I'M WORRIED Y'ALL, I'VE ALREADY HEARD ALL THIS BEFORE.
WHAT WAS THAT? I SAID PUT IT ON RECORD.
SO WE HAVE A DIFFERENT COLLECTION IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM THAT THE RULES HAVE BEEN AMENDED SINCE JANUARY WILL BE AT EFFECT JANUARY 1ST, 2007.
AND I COULD GO AND WRITE THE TELL, BUT I WOULD THINK THAT DAVID AGREES WITH ME.
PROVIDE PROCEDURES THAT WILL HELP THE DEFENDANTS COMPLY WITH A COURT ORDER, COST, FINES AND FEES WITHOUT IMPOSING UNDUE HARDSHIP ON DEFENDANTS AND THEIR DEFENDANTS.
IT SOUNDS GREAT, BUT AS USUAL, SOMETHING COMES FROM AUSTIN.
THAT SOUNDS GREAT, BUT WHAT IT REALLY MEANS IS IT WAS THAT EASY MR. DANIEL WOULD KEEP IT AND LAURA WILL KEEP IT, BUT IT'S GOING TO HAVE TO REALLY CREATE MORE PROGRAMS FROM FOLKS THAT ARE IN IT OR IF THEY CLAIM TO BE IN IT, THERE'S MORE COURT WORK THAT'S GONNA BE INVOLVED.
'CAUSE THE JUDGES ARE GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE MORE ENERGY HEARINGS ALONG THE WAY.
JUST TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA AS A, AS A PROSECUTOR NOW, BUT BEFORE AS A JUDGE WE WOULD ENTER AN AGREEMENT AND I DIDN'T MUCH THINK ABOUT THE PAYMENT PLAN, HOW IT WAS SET UP.
I WOULD JUST SIGN THAT ORDER AND GET IT DONE.
AS A PROSECUTOR, THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE DOING NOW.
AND THEN THAT WAS OFFLOADED TO THE CLERK'S OFFICE, WHICH IS NOT THE CLERK'S OFFICE OR PROBATION.
AND THEY WOULD COLLECT IT, THEY WOULD FIGURE OUT WHAT THEIR INCOME WAS THAT WORK OUT A PAYMENT PLAN.
BUT THIS IS THE DEAL WHERE IF THE DEFENDANT LITERALLY SAYS, I'M INDIGENT KING X AND YOU LOOK AT WHAT THE GUIDELINES ARE, WE CAN'T IMPOSE THEM TO MAKE THE PAYMENT.
I MEAN I COULD SAY IT'S AN UNFUNDED MANDATE, IT SOUNDS RIGHTEOUS THAT WE SHOULD MAKE INT PEOPLE PAY.
BUT THERE MIGHT BE BORDERLINE CASES WHERE PEOPLE ARE MOTIVATED GENERALLY TO PAY.
SO WE HAVE TO HAVE NOW PROGRAMS FOR PEOPLE, COMMUNITY SUPERVISION PROGRAMS FOR PEOPLE TO WORK OFF, WHICH WE WILL BE INVOLVED.
OH GREAT, HERE'S LORD, WE'LL BE WORKING OFF SOME OF THE UH, COURT, COURT COSTS, FINES, MAYBE WITH PRECINCT ONE OR PRECINCT RULE.
WE'VE DONE THAT IN THE PAST BEFORE CALLED ON Y'ALL TO DO THOSE THINGS.
BUT THIS IS NOT GOING TO BE SOMETHING.
THERE'S A TRAINING COMING UP NOVEMBER 30TH.
SO LAURAS LOOKED AT IT, PERFECT TIMING AND WE HAD LOOKED AT IT, SHE MET WITH THE JUDGES, SHE COULD SEE THIS COMING.
DAVID HAD MET WITH THE JUDGES SIX, NINE MONTHS BEFORE THEY SAW THIS COMING DOWN ROAD THAT IT WAS GOING TO GET PASSED.
THEY COULD SEE THE CHATTER ON WHAT WAS HAPPENING WITH DID YOU GUYS GET, YOU'RE ON AN EMAIL CHAIN? THEY KNEW IT WAS COMING.
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HAD OUR HEAD IN THE STAND FOR A LONG TIME AND SAID, WELL MAYBE IT'S NOT GONNA COME, BUT IT DID.AND SO HERE WE ARE AND IT'S GONNA BE EFFECTIVE.
LAURA'S OFFICE IS LIKE, THERE'S NO WAY WE CAN CONTINUE TO DO THIS WITH THE MANPOWER AND THE STAFF WE HAVE WITH ALL THE OTHER WORK.
'CAUSE SHE DID NOT GET NEW PEOPLE.
SHE ABSORBED THAT WITHIN HER OFFICE STAFF.
SO THEY'RE JUST SAYING AND THEY CAN REALLY SPEAK MORE OF WHAT THEY BELIEVE.
'CAUSE YOU TALKED TO CHAD, RIGHT, LAURA? YES.
I THINK YOU'VE REACHED OUT TO HIM IN AN EMAIL.
AND CHAD IS THE, IS OVER THE STATE OF INDIGENT DEFENSE COLLECTION DEPARTMENT.
HOWEVER, WHAT THE TITLE IS WITHIN THE OFFICE OF COURT ADMINISTRATION, CHAD BRA IS HIS REGIONS BASICALLY LIAISON.
AND WE'VE BEEN REACHING OUT TO HIM SINCE REALLY ALL THIS CAME UP BACK IN THE BUDGET WORKSHOPS IN AUGUST AND SEPTEMBER.
AND AUSTIN HAS HAD A REALLY DIFFICULT TIME IMPLEMENTING THE RULES AND TRAINING TO EVEN DECIDE WHAT, HOW TO TRAIN, HOW THIS PROGRAM SHOULD BE IMPLEMENTED.
SO EVEN THOUGH WE'VE BEEN REACHING OUT AND ASKING FOR THAT, THE EARLIEST GETS AVAILABLE TO US IS NOVEMBER 30TH.
SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE KIND OF HERE AT THIS POINT.
AND WE JUST GOT THIS INFORMATION SINCE THE LAST COMMISSIONER'S COURT.
SO WE'RE KIND OF IN ONE OF THOSE, YOU KNOW, WE, WE JUST SORT OF, WE HAVE THE INFORMATION NOW BEGINNING ON NOVEMBER 30TH SINCE WHEN WE START TAKING THE ACTION THAT WE NEED TO IMPLEMENT ALL OF THE LEGAL.
BUT YOUR QUESTION HAS TO BE FROM Y'ALL.
BUT IT'S BECAUSE IF THEY'RE NOT GONNA DO IT, THEN WE HAVE TO GO BACK TO THE STATUTE SAYS WHO'S GONNA DO IT.
AND THE THE STATUTE ALLOWS ON THIS COLLECTION FUNCTION, THE DISTRICT AND COUNTY ATTORNEYS CLERKS OF THE DISTRICT AND COUNTY COURT, THE SHERIFF CONSTABLES JPS MAY COLLECT MONEY PAYABLE OF THIS TITLE.
COMMUNITY SUPERVISION CORRECTIONS DEPARTMENT IS WHAT THAT DOES.
AND THE COUNTY TREASURER MAY COLLECT MONEY PAYABLE UNDER THIS TITLE WITH THE WRITTEN APPROVAL OF THE CLERK.
SO YOU HAVE WHAT IS WRITTEN THAT GIVES AUTHORITY, IF NONE OF THOSE FOLKS WILL DO IT, THEN THE CLERK CAN CONVEY AUTHORITY TO THE TREASURER, THE, UH, CORRECTIONS DEPARTMENT AND COMMUNITY SUPERVISIONS.
AND THE DISTRICT, I, I THINK I CAN FEEL COMFORTABLE SPEAKING FOR SHE WAS AT THAT MEETING.
SHE DOESN'T HAVE THE STAFF OR THE SPACE WITH THESE PEOPLE.
SO, SO WHY IT'S IMPORTANT IS IT'S GONNA CREATE SOMETHING ELSE THAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO SEPARATELY FUND TO COMPLY WITH THE STATUTE.
AND THESE GUYS ARE TELLING ME FROM HAVING DONE IT, THAT'S REQUIRE, HE'S GOT SOMEBODY IN HIS OFFICE, IT'S GONNA REQUIRE A COLLECTION PERSON FROM JP COUNTY COURT AND DISTRICT.
AND I THINK Y'ALL MADE A CONTINGENCY IN THE BUDGET FOR THE AMOUNT.
I THINK LAURA SAID SHE WOULD GIVE ME A BUDGET WHEN SHE GOT A CHANCE, WHICH I THINK SHE'S OUT LAST WEEK SICK.
YOU FEELING BETTER? I'M THERE.
AND SO WHEN SHE GETS THAT TO ME, IT'S SOMETHING I WANTED TO PUT IT TODAY TO CONSIDER.
AND MAYBE WHEN WE HAVE THE SPECIAL SESSIONS THAT Y'ALL ARE GONNA HAVE, WE CAN VOTE ON IT.
BUT JUST TO TELL YOU THAT THE JUDGES HAVE INVITED ME TO MEETING AND DAVID AND KIND, I'M GONNA SAY THEY TRICKED ME AND ASKED ME TO DO THIS.
I MEAN I THINK OVER TIME THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE, ONCE WE GET IT GOING LIKE ANYTHING ELSE, I THINK IT'LL BE FINE AND WE MIGHT CAN TURN IT OVER TO SOMEBODY ELSE.
LAURA VERY FEELS VERY STRONGLY, WE TALKED ON THE PHONE LAST WEEK THAT IT'D BE OKAY IF IT SHOULD GO WITH ME.
IT NEEDS TO, 'CAUSE I THINK WELL WE CAN GET SOMEBODY ELSE TO DO, 'CAUSE YOU NEED TO HAVE SOMEBODY THAT'S ACCOUNTABLE TO THE PUBLIC OR PEOPLE THAT ARE UPSET ABOUT THE COLLECTIONS DEPARTMENT.
I GUESS THAT'S GONNA FALL ON ME AND NOT BECAUSE I'M LIKE, WELL CAN'T WE JUST HAVE IT BE RUN BY THE COMMISSIONERS? AND LIKE THAT'S A LITTLE VAGUE IN THE BEGINNING.
UM, ISN'T THAT KIND OF WHAT YOU'RE THINKING? YES.
WE NEED TO, IT NEEDS TO START WITH THE, WITH THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY.
THE WAY OUR COURTS ARE DONE, THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE IS GONNA BE KEY IN MAKING THIS PROGRAM SUCCESSFUL WITH THE DA AND THE JUDGE WORKING TOGETHER.
THEY CAN SET IT UP AND IT WILL BE FAIRLY EASY TO RUN BUT WITHOUT THEIR PARTICIPATION THERE'S JUST IT, IT WOULD NOT WORK.
AND THERE'S UM, WORDING IN THE NEW RULES THAT SAYS IF DURING THE PLEA PROCESS OR THERE IS A STANDARDIZED PAYMENT PLAN THAT IS SET UP, THE DEFENDANT CAN BE PLACED ON THAT STANDARDIZED PAYMENT PLAN.
IF THEY DISPUTE THAT THEY'RE NOT ABLE TO MAKE THAT STANDARDIZED PAYMENT PLAN, THEN IF DURING THE FEE PROCESS THAT ISSUE IS ADDRESSED AND ADDRESSING THEIR CONDITIONS, THEN A LOT OF THE RULES CAN KIND OF BE PLACED ON THE BACK BURNER WHERE THINGS DON'T HAVE TO HAPPEN.
ALL OF THAT OCCURS FROM THE DA'S OFFICE 'CAUSE WE HAVE ZERO CONTACT OR HAS ZERO CONTACT WITH HIM PRIOR TO THEM BEING PLACED ON PROBATION.
SO YOU SEE HOW THIS HAPPEN? LUCKY YOU SEE HOW ALL THIS HAPPENED? I WAS JUST IN A MEETING, THOUGHT I WAS THERE BEING INVITED TO LUNCH.
BUT, BUT, BUT I DO APPRECIATE YOUR COUNSEL BECAUSE I HAD SOME CONCERNS ABOUT DOING THIS TO START WITH AND LAURA FEELS
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STRONG ABOUT IT BEING ADDRESSED IN THE BEGINNING.SO TO DAVID AND THEY'RE SAYING, OKAY, WE'RE NOT GONNA TRY AND SHIP ON YOU.
WE JUST CAN'T DO IT IN OUR OFFICE.
I DON'T KNOW IF MY OFFICE, THERE'S NO SPACE SO I HAVE NO IDEA.
WE CAN COME BACK TO YOU WOODS, SOME SPECIFIC IDEAS THAT CAN LOOK AT THE VOTE.
THERE MIGHT BE A SPIRAL APPEAR.
I THINK IT WOULD BE GOOD SINCE WE ARE OBVIOUSLY PROSECUTING THE SAME DEFENDANTS TO HAVE A DIFFERENT STOREFRONT EVEN THOUGH I'M THE ONE THAT'S RESPONSIBLE FOR THESE STAFF PEOPLE ULTIMATELY.
UM, AND I WANTED Y'ALL TO KNOW THAT.
SO YOU SEE IT COMING, WE WANT AT LEAST HAVE THAT CONVEYED I GUESS FOR ME BEFORE THE 30TH SO I CAN GET AN ATTORNEY DOWN THERE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE UNDERSTAND THE IMPLEMENTATION EVEN THOUGH WE WILL NOT HAVE TIME TO STAFF IT.
DURING BUDGET TIME WE KIND OF TALKED ABOUT POSSIBLY, UH, THE TREASURER'S OFFICE ALSO THIS BECAUSE HE'S FORCED TO ALL MONIES.
IS THERE A POSSIBILITY THAT YOU AND HIM, WELL HE WILL BE, HE WILL BE RECEIVING THAT MONEY.
BUT THERE'S ONLY GONNA BE ONE, UH, PERSON THAT'S GONNA BE OVER THAT AND IT'S GONNA HAPPEN IN THE COURT.
BUT ANY HELP I CAN GET FROM MR. VILLE, JUST LIKE I'M GETTING HELP FROM PROBATION STILL OR THE CLERK'S OFFICE, I CERTAINLY VALUE THAT.
BUT I THINK TO MAKE CERTAIN, I THINK WHAT THEY'RE SAYING AND I'M NOT AS UH, NOT VERY PROFESSIONAL, I'M NOT AS TRAINED UP AS I WISH THAT I WAS.
I MEAN I WISH I WAS MORE KNOWLEDGEABLE AND I'M NOT.
SO I CERTAINLY DON'T WANT THE SAME THING IN MISREPRESENTED AND WHAT WE ARE SEEING.
AND THE REASON I THINK THAT LAURA AND I THINK THE SAME THING ABOUT DAVID AND KAREN'S LOOKED AT IT, IS IF WE CONFRONT LOAD THE WORK.
SO I UNDERSTAND THAT MY PROSECUTORS ARE NOT GONNA BE HAPPY IF WE CONFRONT, LOAD THE WORK IN COURT AND HAVE THE JUDGE COME UP WITH THE PLAN.
SO NOW PART OF THE NEGOTIATION IS NOT GONNA JUST BE THE PUNISHMENT AND JUST THE FINE, BUT, BUT WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO MAKE CERTAIN THAT THIS PERSON IS AGREEABLE AND MAKE A GOOD RECORD ON THAT, PARTICULARLY DOWN MISDEMEANOR COURT.
SO WHEN WE COME BACK FROM THAT TRAINING NOVEMBER, THEN WE ARE GONNA IN TURN TRAIN THE PROSECUTORS AND THEN WE'RE GONNA TURN TRAIN THE JUDGES AND WE'RE GONNA TRY TO HAVE SOME STANDARDIZED THINGS IN THAT ARENA.
MR. VILLE MIGHT BE VERY HELPFUL ON THE BACK END OF THAT.
BUT ON THE FRONT END OF THAT, JUST LIKE DAVID, THE LAWYER'S SAYING THEY'RE NOT GONNA BE IN COURT.
SO THAT CREATES THE PROBLEM I HADN'T THOUGHT ABOUT AGAIN, IS THIS BEING SOMETHING ELSE TO PUT ON MY PLATE.
BUT WHEN THE JUDGES WE'RE TRYING TO SEE WHAT OUR OPTIONS ARE, AB HEY, YOU KNOW, YOU, YOU GOT A BETTER ONE.
YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? I MEAN I'M NOT JUST ANCHORING.
Y'ALL, YOU KNOW, I MIGHT HAVE MISSED THAT.
BUT AGAIN, HAVING OTHER PEOPLE HELPING ME IN THE PROCESS, THAT'S WHAT I NEVER, NEVER YOU OPERATE IN IN HELPING EACH OTHER HERE.
AND THE RULES DO MAKE EXCEPTION TO WHERE RESTITUTION TO A VICTIM IS NOT IMPACTED.
PROBATION FEES ARE NOT IMPACTED, ARE YOU? A COST ISN'T IMPACTED.
AND I HAD MENTIONED TO JUDGE WHITE WHEN SHE GOT AM AT THE JUDGE'S MEETING, UM, AS WE WERE MEETING, I MENTIONED SINCE THOSE AREN'T IMPACTED AND THEY'RE NOT GOVERNED BY THE RULES, I CAN MAINTAIN THOSE IN MY DEPARTMENT.
'CAUSE WITH RESTITUTION WE HAVE TO TRACK IT, WE HAVE TO CUT THE CHECKS, WE'VE GOTTA SEND THEM OUT.
SO, AND THEN THE PROBATION FEES IS MY FUNDING SO I CAN MAINTAIN IT WHERE EVERYTHING'S NOT GOING BE GOING.
BUT EXCEPT THE FINES, THE COURT COSTS, DPA, DPS FEES, THINGS ALONG.
SO I'M STILL GONNA BE STAYING WITH THAT PART THAT IS EXEMPTED TO KIND OF DO AS MUCH AS I CAN.
AND, AND COMMISSIONER CHEN YOU MENTIONED, UH, MR.
I MEAN THIS IS, THIS IS NOT A ONE PERSON SHOW.
I DON'T KNOW IF HE OH YEAH, HE, I DON'T, WE DON'T NEED TO TALK ABOUT IT.
WE CAN TALK TO WELL, YOU KNOW THE TRAINING NOVEMBER 3RD, SO THEY'LL HAVE HANDOUTS AND THINGS.
SO I'D LOVE TO GET A COPY OF THAT.
THAT WAY I DON'T HAVE TO GO TO LEARN.
AND ANYTHING Y'ALL NEED IN TERMS DESIGNING A SYSTEM THAT WORKS CERTAINLY WILLING HELP.
WELL THAT'S GOOD TO KNOW BECAUSE WE WILL, WHEN WE BRING THAT INFORMATION BACK AND WE HAVE THE TRAINING AND WE HAVE THE TRAINING WITH OTHER FOLKS TO BE SURE INCLUDE YOU IN THAT MATERIAL.
SOMETIMES WHAT YOU HEAR PEOPLE SAY IS IMPORTANT MATERIALS THAT YOU RECEIVE.
AND I APPRECIATE YOU WANTING HELP BECAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE, I THINK LIKE ANY NEW THING, IT STARTS OUT AT THE SAME CUMBERSOME, BUT ONCE WE FIGURE OUT HOW TO MAKE IT WORK SMOOTH, IT'LL BE JUST LIKE ANY OTHER CHANGE.
THE THE BIG THING OF COURSE FOR US, BECAUSE WE'RE STILL IN PROSECUTION BUSINESS AND PEOPLE IN AUSTIN SOMETIMES FORGET
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THAT THE LOCAL, WHAT OUR IDEAS ARE AND THAT IS THAT THERE'S A PERSON THAT'S ABLE TO PAY, UH, WE WANT THEM TO PAY BECAUSE THE FINE IS IMPORTANT OF PUNISHMENT ON THE OFFENSE.NOT EVEN BE IMPORTANT TO MAKE THE VICTIM HOLD FAMILY RESTITUTION.
BUT WE DO NOT WANT THE ABUSE OF PEOPLE GAINING THE SYSTEM USING THIS NEW ENTITY AND NOT PAYING.
IT COULD IMPACT, I THINK IN THE FIRST YEAR MONEY THAT WE MISS FOR FINE FOR COST.
SO WE HAVE TO BE VERY MINDFUL OF HOW WE ARE TRAINED.
'CAUSE I BELIEVE LIKE ANYTHING, THERE'S A TECHNIQUE.
IF YOU ARE TRULY INGEN, YOU DON'T NEED TO PAY.
BUT THEN THERE'S A PROGRAM THAT WE CAN PUT YOU IN AND IN AN INDIRECT WAY THAT WILL BE A COST THAT IS GONNA COME DOWN.
'CAUSE IT'S SOMETHING IN THE COUNTY THAT WE'RE GONNA GET A VOLUNTEERING DUTY, KIND OF VOLUNTEERING.
BUT FOR THE OTHER FOLKS THAT ARE BORDER OF RIGHT, AND WANT TO PAY, BUT SOME PEOPLE DON'T WANT TO VOLUNTEER THAT WE COULD ENCOURAGE THEM WITH THE RIGHT TRAINING TO CONTINUE TO PAY.
THAT'S WHAT WE REALLY WANT TO BE.
AND, AND IF THE COURT IS INVOLVED IN THE BEGINNING, THE JUDGE IS VERY PERSUASIVE IN THOSE IF THE PERSON, THE BOARD A RIGHT CASE.
I I I, I FOUND THAT TO BE TRUE HERE ON THE BENCH.
UH, JUDGE WALLY, I'D LIKE TO BE INCLUDED IN VERY GOOD HEARING.
JUST BECAUSE THAT'S GOING TO CHANGE THE REVENUE COMING ON HER SIDE TO MAYBE ANOTHER REVENUE LINE THAT WE HAVE TO SET UP.
SO HAD SUBMITTED A BUDGET TO ME TO, BUT IT WAS AFTER THE FACT THAT I'D ALREADY GOT THE NUMBER THAT THE JUDGE HAD TOLD TO MAKE A PLACEHOLDER FOR IT.
SO WE CAN MOVE SOME MONEY AROUND AND UH, I MEAN WE HAVE TO HAVE SOME COMPUTERS, WE HAVE TO HAVE SOME SOFTWARE, RIGHT.
UNDERSTAND THAT BECAUSE THAT'S THE THING, THE WHOLE THING THAT WE'VE HAD, THE WHOLE SYSTEM THAT WE HAVE IS REALLY GONNA BE PUSHED TO THAT.
BUT THE GOOD THING IS I KNOW DAVE WILL HELP WITH THE RESTITUTION TO NOT ACTUALLY BE ABLE TO HELP IN SOME OF THE COMMUNITY DIVISION OPTIONS FOR THE BOTH, FOR THE, FOR THE OFFENDERS WHO ARE LOOKING AT A REPAYMENT PLAN IF THEY'RE UNABLE.
BECAUSE THE, WE DON'T WANT FOLKS TO SAY I'M INDIGENT AND NOTHING HAPPENS.
OKAY, YOU'RE INDIGENT PUT YOU AS A BODY, CAN'T YOU GOTTA DO SOMETHING.
YOU SAID COURT RESTITUTION NOT, NOT RESTITUTION, NOT RESTITUTION, NOT REST.
DTS FEE IS WHATEVER DPS SENDS SOME DRUGS OFF FOR TESTING AND CONFIRMATION, THEN THAT CAN BE ADDED TO THEIR, UM, SENTENCE WHERE THEY HAVE TO REIMBURSE DPS.
THAT IT'S NOT ACTUAL RESTITUTION, IT'S JUST REPAY FOR THAT.
SO THOSE REIMBURSEMENTS ARE GONNA BE EFFECTED TOO.
YOU AND I KNOW THE TREASURE YOU WERE INTERESTED IN HELPING ME WITH SOME OF THE PROGRAMS AND THAT'S EXACTLY THE THE SEGUE I WAS LOOKING FOR TO JUMP IN.
I THINK THAT'S THE OTHER LEG OF THIS ABSOLUTELY.
IS TO MAKE SURE THAT FOR ANY DEFENDANT OR ANY, UH, NO DEFENDANTS OR ANY DEFENDANT HAS ADEQUATE GEOGRAPHICALLY ACCESSIBLE PLACES TO PERFORM THEIR COMMUNITY SERVICE.
AND BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, WELL NO, THEY ALL, THEY'LL HAVE ALL BANNERS OF REASONS OF WHY THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE DON'T WORK.
SO I THINK WE'LL HAVE TO HAVE A MENU WHERE IT'S ALMOST SIX DAYS A WEEK ALMOST IN EVERY PRECINCT WE'VE GOT SOMEWHERE IDENTIFIED THAT YOU CAN PLUG IN BECAUSE THAT WILL BE THE NEXT LEG OF IT.
IIII DON'T HAVE THE MONEY TO TRAVEL.
UH, YOU KNOW, I'M, I'M DATE RESTRICTED.
WELL DATE RESTRICTED ON PRO ON PROBATION.
WELL, WELL, I MEAN, UH, JUST SO YOU KNOW.
BUT AGAIN, THE, THE, UH, MAYBE WORKING AND THANKFULLY EMPLOYED, BUT BECAUSE OF I AGREE WITH YOU BECAUSE OF FAMILY OBLIGATIONS AND THOSE THINGS ARE STILL INDIGENT.
SO AGAIN, THIS, I CAN SEE IT BEING A BIG DEAL AND I'M NOT MUCH OF A SOCIAL MEDIA PERSON, BUT I KNOW PEOPLE THAT ARE, AND THIS IS A BIG TOPIC ON SOCIAL MEDIA IN KAUFMAN COUNTY NOW.
SO THE PEOPLE THAT ARE BEING IMPACTED BY, UM, THEY ARE ALREADY PLANNING GAME THE SYSTEM.
YOU WANNA SAY THAT? WELL, WE'LL MY HAT'S OFF TO Y'ALL.
THAT'LL BE IN THE TRENCHES OF GETTING THESE TEMPLATES THAT START TO WORK.
WE, WE CAN'T WAIT TO BRING IT BACK AND SHARE IT WITH THE COUNTY.
AND I, I MEAN WE, I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS THE DISCUSSION.
IT'S ALSO TO CONSIDER, I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAVE REAL NUMBERS TO HAVE ANYTHING THAT Y'ALL WANT TO TAKE ACTION ON OR IF Y'ALL WANNA WHAT TO THE SPECIAL.
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ACTUALLY, UH, TALKING ABOUT THANK YOU.UH, TALKING ABOUT THE, UH, APPROVING ANY NECESSARY REALLY ARE TODAY WE REALLY ARE TRYING TO PUT TOGETHER THE NUMBERS AND I THINK LAURA'S HELPING US LOOK AT SOMEWHAT, KAREN IS HELPING US WITH THE NUMBERS.
UM, AND SO I THINK WE HAVE A SPECIAL STUDY NEXT, SOME OTHER AREAS.
AND SO WE WERE THINKING ABOUT TRYING TO GET THE NUMBERS TOGETHER THIS WEEK TO AT LEAST HAVE SOMETHING TO PRESENT.
WILL THAT WORK FOR YOU GUYS? WELL, WE, WE HAVE, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO CANVAS.
THAT'LL, WE HAVE, HAVE TO DO THAT.
THEN WE CAN GO INTO A WORKSHOP.
WELL, AND THIS SHOULDN'T REALLY TAKE VERY LONG.
WE'LL GET WITH KAREN WITH WHAT, UH, LAURA HAD PROVIDED HER, BUT WE'RE JUST ACTUALLY GONNA ADD IN ANOTHER EMPLOYEE BECAUSE MR. DANIEL IS ALSO CHOOSING AT THE TIME, YOU KNOW, NOT TO DO THIS TOO BECAUSE OF THE STAFF.
I THINK IN THE ORIGINAL BUDGET THAT WE APPROVED, I THINK I ONLY PUT TWO EMPLOYEES WITH THEIR EXPENSES AND A LITTLE BIT FOR EQUIPMENT.
SO I'M GONNA HAVE TO THAT THINK IT.
IT WAS PRETTY CLOSE TO HOW MANY EMPLOYEES GONNA YOU THREE? WELL, WHAT THEY, WHAT THEY'VE SUGGESTED TO ME IS EACH ENTITY THAT WE'RE COLLECTING, JP, UM, THE, THE, THE, UM, COUNTY COURTS AND THE DISTRICT COURT AND HOPEFULLY THAT THERE'LL BE MORE SORT OF A, ONE OF THOSE PEOPLE THAT'S GONNA BE SUPERVISORY SO THEY CAN DOUBLE TASK.
I MEAN, THEY CAN KIND OF MANAGE AND TAKE AN ASSIGNMENT AS WELL.
SO WE DON'T, BECAUSE WE DON'T NEED TO COME IN WITH FOUR PEOPLE.
THAT'S SILLY BECAUSE I, YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHY I'M DOING IT.
BUT IF ONE OF THE PEOPLE CAN HAVE AN UNDERSTANDING THAT'S DONE THIS BEFORE, FIND, BUT SOMEBODY THAT'S WORKED IN THE COURTS DONE SOME COLLECTION MIGHT BE HELPFUL.
AND ONE THING TO KEEP IN MIND IS THESE POSITIONS, THEY'RE NOT JUST COLLECTING FEES AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
IF MR FALLS BEHIND, I THINK IT'S 60 DAYS IN THEIR FINES OR COURT COSTS, THEN THAT EMPLOYEE HAS TO DO A FINANCIAL ASSESSMENT WITH THE OFFENDER TO DEVELOP A BUDGET.
AND THEN THAT CASE HAS TO BE RETURNED TO THE COURT FOR REVIEW.
AND SO IT'S NOT JUST GONNA BE THEM SITTING THERE PROCESSING MONEY ORDERS.
THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO BE DOING THAT ON THE PEOPLE THAT ARE GONNA BE TIME IT'S GONNA, THAT PERSON IS GONNA HAVE TO BE A PERSON THAT DOES THAT FINANCIAL ASSESSMENT.
YOU BRING UP A BULLET POINT THAT THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO BE AT A HIGHER FUNCTIONING AND THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO BE SOMEBODY THAT'S GONNA BE CREDIBLE ULTIMATELY IN COURT.
SO THAT'S THE KIND OF PERSON WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
SO THAT, THAT ONE PERSON THAT'S GONNA TAKE AN ASSIGNMENT, IT SHOULD BE IN A SUPERVISOR ROLE.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S GONNA BE A BIT DIFFERENT BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY I CAN'T GO DOWN THERE AND DO THAT CONFLICT.
SO THE MOTION WOULD BE CONSIDERED YES.
THAT WOULD BE THE MOST ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY FOR SERVICE FOR YOU.
I, I LIVE SERVE COUNTY'S ALL I DO.
GENTLEMEN, DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR DA AND KAREN? WELL, WE'RE GONNA A WHOLE LOT MORE.
BUT I'LL TELL YOU, THESE GUYS ALREADY KNOW THAT THEY COULD, AND I'LL SAY THAT DAVID AND LAURA HAVE BEEN READING IT, FOLLOWING THIS AS IT'S EVOLVING.
THEY, THEY KNEW IT WAS GONNA BE KIND OF CRAZY 'CAUSE THAT'S HOW WELL THEY GOT OUT OF IT.
YOU SEE WHAT I'M SAYING? BECAUSE THEY COULD SEE THAT IT WAS GONNA BE VERY LABOR INTENSIVE FOR AN OFFICE THAT WAS ALREADY DOING A FUNCTION THAT THEY REALLY DID HAVE THE MANPOWER.
SO IT WAS BACK IN JUNE ON THE END.
YEAH, THIS IS, YEAH, THIS IS NOT NEW.
IT'S JUST, IT'S HERE AND IF I'M GONNA DO IT, WE GOTTA MAKE A DECISION BECAUSE WE GOTTA GO DOWN THERE AND GET SOME TRAINING SO WE CAN BRING IT BACK TO OUR COUNTY.
AND THE OFFICE SUPPORT ADMINISTRATION HAS NOT BEEN VERY GIVING FOR US.
IT HASN'T BEEN, I KNOW LAURA'S MORE PLUGGED ON CHAD, BUT I JUST, WE, HE, I THINK HE'S PROBABLY OVERWHELMED WITH HIS NEW IMPLEMENTATION.
SO TO ASK HIM TO COME HERE, NOT BE A LITTLE MUCH, HE'S LIKE, GO THERE, GET IT.
AND THEN HE HAVE QUESTIONS, WE DEAL.
AND I MEAN, THAT DIDN'T BE FAIR.
HE'S THAT THE WHOLE REGION, HIS AREA.
I BELIEVE WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER SHANE.
DO WE HAVE A SECOND? DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM ANYBODY? OKAY.
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IN FAVOR? ALRIGHT, NOW GOING BACK TO WITH NISSAN, UH, OUR DIRECTOR TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER PURCHASING A 20 PRECINCT.NUMBER, OKAY, THIS IS NO DIFFERENT FROM THE OTHER, UH, PRECINCTS THAT DO THE BUYBACK PROGRAM ON THESE DUMP TRUCKS.
COMMISSIONER, UM, PHILLIPS BROUGHT THIS TO ME WITH A NEED FOR A DUMP TRUCK HE DIDN'T THINK HE NEEDED IN THE BEGINNING, BUT HAS DEVELOPED THE NEED.
AND IT'S JUST, BASICALLY IT'S LEASING A TRUCK FOR ABOUT A THOUSAND DOLLARS A MONTH AND WHEN GUARANTEED OF BUY BACK UNDER THE PROGRAM WORKED IN THE PAST FOR EVERYBODY ELSE.
WELL, SECOND, UH, FIVE IS TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER FIRST 20 PRECINCT NUMBER TWO FOR 30,008 65 CENTS.
COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS SOLD HIS OTHER TRUCK IN THE AUCTION.
UM, IT'S STILL RUNNING AND UH, HAS A NEED FOR ANOTHER ONE TO REPLACE IT.
MATTER OF FACT, THEY WERE HAVING TO HAVING USE PERSONAL VEHICLES THIS WEEK AFTER THE PERSON UP, HEY, RUNNING OUT TRUCK.
WE, WE OBTAINED SEVERAL, UH, QUOTES FROM SEVERAL DIFFERENT AREAS AND AS YOU CAN SEE, THE, UH, FIREBOARD WAS ACTUALLY CHEAPER, BUT THEY CAN'T GIVE THE TRUCK TO US FOR SEVERAL MONTHS.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT NINE DAYS.
THEY'RE ALREADY USE PERSONAL VEHICLE.
ANY QUESTIONS? MOTION PHILLIPS, ANY QUESTIONS? ALL FAVOR.
NEXT IS ITEM NUMBER SIX, MR. TREASURER TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER, GET IT TO THE WELL THANK YOU JUDGE.
AND A MONTH AGO, YOU ALL GOT A BROWN FILE FOLDER WITH A COPY OF THIS IN IT CASE THAT'S NOT, IT'S YOUR FINGERTIPS.
AND, UH, YOU KNOW, WE, I MEAN, YEAH, THE ONE YOU RECEIVED A MONTH AGO IS, UH, NOTHING'S BEEN CHANGED.
OKAY? UH, THIS, WHAT YOU RECEIVED A MONTH AGO WAS, UH, FULLY READY TO EXECUTE.
AND, UM, I SENT, UH, I RECEIVED AN EMAIL FROM KAREN ON, UH, THURSDAY THAT I FORWARDED TO YOU THAT IT APPEARS THAT THIS COMPLIES WITH THE, UH, PUBLIC FUND INVESTMENT.
I AND IF KAREN, KAREN D KAREN D OKAY.
AND, UM, YOU KNOW, THE, IF, IF THE COURT APPROVES THIS, THEN I THINK THE THE NEXT DISCUSSION IS TO IDENTIFY THE OTHER PARTICIPANTS IN THE INVESTMENT COMMITTEE AND WHICH IS, UH, DISCUSSED ON PAGE ONE.
AND THEN IN THE TIMING, I, I BELIEVE THAT WE WOULD SET THIS UP AGAIN FOR THE FIRST COURT MEETING IN JANUARY SO THAT THAT COURT COULD, UH, ONCE AGAIN APPROVE THE INVESTMENT POLICY, UH, BE PREPARED TO NAME THE OTHER INVESTMENT ADVISORY COMMITTEE MEMBER OR MEMBERS, AND THAT WE, YOU KNOW, NOT TAKE ANY DIFFERENT INVESTMENT ACTIVITY UNTIL THAT
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OCCURS.THAT, YOU KNOW, THE INVESTMENT OFFICER, WHICH IS MYSELF AND THE INVESTMENT COMMITTEE, BRINGS SUGGESTIONS TO THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT.
IT IS ULTIMATELY THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT THAT APPROVES ANY INVESTMENTS THAT ARE MADE.
SO TO KEEP FROM PUTTING ANYONE ON THE SPOT IN DECEMBER, SETTING POLICIES AND MAKING DECISIONS THAT ARE GOING IMPACT THE NEW COURT, I THINK IT'D BE JUST PR TO GET OUR POLICY IN PLACE, RE REVOTE ON IT FIRST MEETING IN JANUARY.
AND THEN IN THE SECOND MEETING OF JANUARY, COME WITH A, UH, SOME SUGGESTIONS OF WHAT WE MIGHT DO TO NUMBER ONE, SAFETY, NUMBER TWO, LIQUIDITY.
AND NUMBER THREE IS THERE OPPORTUNITY TO GET A LITTLE MORE INTEREST BY TAKING ADVANTAGE OF PRIMARILY THE FACT THAT WE'VE GOT ROAD BOND MONEY THAT WON'T BE USED FOR UP TO THREE YEARS IN THE POLICY.
THERE'S NO INVESTMENT THAT WE CAN MAKE THAT EXTEND BEYOND THREE YEARS.
SO WE'VE GOT THAT DRAW DOWN SCHEDULE ON THE MOVE BONDS, IT SHOWS IF WE CAN DO, UH, NOTHING ELSE.
THREE YEARS IN CDS AND BIKES ON MONEY AND, AND I'VE, I'VE DONE SOME ANALYSIS AND I THINK JUST WITH MAKING PRUDENT, UH, DECISIONS WITH THE ROAD BOND MONEY DRAW DOWN, UM, WE, WE CAN'T INCREASE INTEREST INCOME.
WHY SUSTAIN? ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS? ANY COMMENTS? THE ONLY INVESTMENT CERTIFICATE ON THE INVESTMENT, THE, THE COUNTY AUDITOR AND I ARE, ARE COMMITTEE MEMBERS.
AND, AND YES, IF THERE'S SOMEONE THAT GETS ON THE COMMITTEE, THEY SHOULD GO AND TAKE THE PUBLIC INVESTMENT.
I KNOW I GO TO MORE, I GO TO ABOUT TWICE AS MANY HOURS AS I, NO, I, YOU KNOW, I'M SURE, I'M JUST MAKING SURE THAT I DIDN'T NOTICE IT IN HERE.
BUT THE NEW STATE LAWS, THEY ALL CAME OUT THIS YEAR.
THEY HAVE A WHOLE LOT OF THE REGULATIONS ON THE FINANCIAL, SO, UH, YOUR RECOMMENDATION IS THEY WILL GO AHEAD AND, UH, CONSIDER AND PASS THIS, UH, INVESTMENT POLICY.
WELL, I THINK WHAT WE CAN DO IS IF, UH, A MEMBER OF THE COURT THAT'S GOING TO BE ON IN 2017, UH, WE COULD GO AHEAD AND GET THE INVESTMENT COMMITTEE SET THIS YEAR AND UH, AND THAT WILL ALLOW US TO START LOOKING AT IDEAS SO THAT WHEN WE DO GET TO JANUARY, WE HAVE, UH, THE NEW COURT THAT WE MOVE, UM, EXPEDIT TO MAKE APPROPRIATE.
SO, UH, THE SIGNATURE PAGE THAT WAS ON THIS FOLDER THAT YOU GAVE US IS CORRECT, UH, SIGNATURE PAGE IF YOU NEED APPROVE.
UH, BASED ON THE INFORMATION THAT OUR GIVEN, DO I HAVE THE MOTION ACCEPT THIS AND, UH, WE HAVE ALL YOU NEED TO SIGN.
UH, SO WHAT'S YOUR PLEA GENTLEMEN? MOTION? HAVE A MOTION.
ANY OF DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY.
AND THE NEXT ITEM, UH, IS WITH YOU AS WELL AND DISCUSS, UH, A ELECTION UPDATE, UH, THE COUNTY TREASURER REGARDING THE FILING AND THE TERM EVIDENCE SERVED FROM REQUEST BACK.
I SENT A COPY OF THIS, UH, PACKET BY EMAIL ON THURSDAY TO YOU.
UH, IF ANYONE NEEDS A COPY, I HAVE ONE HERE.
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I HAVE ONE FROM THE OFFICIAL RECORD.AND THE OFFICIAL RECORD HAS THE, UH, DIFFERENT TAXPAYER IDENTIFICATION NUMBERS REDACTED.
AND, UH, THE COPIES THAT WERE SENT TO THE COURT BY EMAIL HAVE THOSE IN THERE SO THAT YOU CAN SEE, WHICH IS THE KEY COMPONENT OF THIS FILING IS WE HAVE TAXPAYER ID NUMBER FOR THESE PEOPLE OR FOR THESE ENTITIES.
AND, UH, SO PAGE ONE OF THAT PACK, IT IS THE FORM 8 43.
YOU CAN SEE IT IS A, A RELATIVELY, UH, STRAIGHTFORWARD FORM.
AND BOX TWO, WE'RE DECLARING THAT WE'RE REQUESTING A REFUND OF 129,000 884 14, AND IT'S FOR THE TAX YEAR, JANUARY 1ST, 2013 THROUGH DECEMBER 31ST, 2013.
AND IN BOX FOUR, THE TYPE OF PENALTY WE'VE DISCLOSED, IT'S 34 0 2 D BACK UP WITH HOLDING.
AND, UH, WE MADE THOSE PAYMENTS ON 10 16 OF 15.
UH, I'LL START THE EXPLANATION ON PAGE ONE AND TWO.
UH, YOU KNOW, WE, WE WALKED THROUGH THE AGENT THAT'S GOING TO HANDLE THIS, WHO WE ARE AND WHY WE'RE CONTACTING THEM.
AND WHAT WE'RE SUMMARIZING IS WE FOUND 32 ADDITIONAL, WE OBTAINED 32, UH, FORMS, 46 69, UM, UH, MCC KAREN LY, OUR AUDITOR, UM, DID NOT WORK.
AND THAT THE PAYMENTS FOR THOSE VENDORS TOTAL 4 36 9 79 0.08.
AND THEN WE HAVE FOUND, UH, TWO, UH, FORM W NINES THAT WERE IN OUR SW SYSTEM WHERE THE VENDORS WERE, UH, EX DECLARING THAT THEIR C CORPS OR SCORPS, AND THOSE SHOULD NOT HAVE REQUIRED BACKUP OF WITHHOLDING EITHER.
SO WE, THAT VENDOR TOTAL WAS 26,892.
SO WE'RE REFUND FOUR, WHICH 20 TIMES THE SUM OF 4 3 6 9 7 9 0 8 AND 26 8 9 2 85.
ON THE SECOND PAGE OF THE EXPLANATION, WE'VE INCLUDED A CALCULATOR PAY, UH, THAT TOTALS THESE $2 AMOUNTS AND WE'VE GIVEN THE INDEX NUMBERS TO THEIR ORIGINAL LIST.
THE, THE THIRD PAGE, UH, IS THE BACKUP WITHHOLDING TAX WORKSHEET.
WE, UH, IDENTIFIED THOSE 56 ITEMS, UH, VENDOR PAYMENTS THAT THEY WERE ASSESSING, BACKUP, WITHHOLDING ON.
WE NUMBERED THOSE ONE THROUGH 56 AND THEN WE INDEXED PAGES FOUR THROUGH 32, WHICH ARE OUR DOCUMENTS.
WE INDEX THOSE BACK TO THE LISTING OF ONE TO 56 AND, UM, AND TRIED TO MAKE A WORK PAPER THAT THEY CAN FOLLOW AND IT'S NOT, SOMETHING OF THAT WAS, WAS PHOTOCOPIES, BUT I'M SHOWING Y'ALL THAT HERE ON THE WORK PAPER THAT THEY WERE SENDING 'EM.
UH, THE FIRST SET OF ITEMS ARE THE ONES WITH YELLOW HIGHLIGHT.
WE GOT A COUPLE OF PAINT HIGHLIGHTS ON THERE.
SO THE AGENT THAT'S LOOKING AT THIS, IF THEY'RE, WHEN THEY'LL SCAN THIS IN ONCE IT COMES TO THE MAIL CENTER AND, UM, IF THEY'RE SCANNER WILL SCAN THAT COLOR AND IT'S COLOR CODED FORM, IT'S ABOUT A 30 MINUTE REVIEW PROCESS FOR THEM TO GO THROUGH THIS.
AND I WILL POINT OUT THAT, UM, I DID NOT DISCLOSE THIS IN MY, UH, EXPLANATION.
I THOUGHT IT WAS IMMATERIAL, BUT IF YOU LOOK LIKE ON PAGE EIGHT, THE, THE NUMBER AT THE BOTTOM, PAGE EIGHT, UM, THIS IS A, UM, A 46 69 THAT WE RECEIVED.
AND YOU CAN SEE ON LINE SIX B WHERE I PUT THE, THE NUMBER SIX IN A CIRCLE.
THAT NUMBER'S $2,635 ON THE LIST THAT THE IRS PREPARED, THAT'S 3,950.
SO JUST A LITTLE CLERICAL VEHICLE, UH, THE TAXPAYER SIGNED FOR THE MONEY AND SAID THEY REPORTED IT.
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UM, I'VE GOT A LITTLE STICK FROM HERE AND I'LL TAKE THAT OFF.BUT IF, IF IT IS, YOU KNOW, THE SERVICE COULD CORRESPOND BACK WITH US AND SAY, HEY, WE, WE'VE DETECTED THESE LITTLE WIGGLES HERE, BUT ON BALANCE, UH, WE'VE GOT A COUPLE THAT ARE OVER, A COUPLE THAT ARE UNDER.
AND THE NET DIFFERENCE IS JUST WE CAN ALWAYS GO AND GET A, A NEW 46 69 IF THE IRS WANTS US TO DON'T ATE THAT, THEY'LL, I THINK WE FULFILLED THE INTENT OF THE REGULATION.
ACKNOWLEDGE, UH, I'M THINKING 16 WEEK TURNAROUND.
SO THESE 56 VENDORS HERE WERE THE ONES THAT WE COULDN'T FIND IT.
AND WE'VE LOCATED, WE'RE CLEARING 34 OF THOSE COMMISSIONER, SO THAT LEAVES US 22 AND YOU KNOW, WE'RE JUST, NOW THAT IT'S JUST DOWN TO A 22 UNIT LIFT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE JUST GONNA TEAM UP, JUST KEEP TAKING ALONG, SEE IF WE CAN'T LOCATE SOMEBODY AND GET THE FORMULA.
BUT I SEE NO REASON TO WAIT ON 129,000 RIGHT HERE.
I THINK WE PROCEED ON WITH WHAT WE HAVE AND GET THIS PART.
KAREN, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU WANNA ADD? NO, NOT AT ALL.
ONE THING I I WAS GONNA ADD IS STRICTLY UP TO THE TREASURER, THE COURT, BUT I KNOW THAT IN THE AGREEMENT HAVE WITH THE ACCOUNTING CPA FIRM, PFIZER AND PFIZER, THEY WERE EITHER GOLDEN AND KAISER, THEY DID AGREE TO REVIEW THE, UH, THIS FORM BEFORE IT'S FILED FREE CHARGE JUST TO MAKE SURE EVERYTHING'S WHAT THEY'RE DOING FOR US.
SO IT'S JUST SOMETHING THAT, THAT, UM, THEY HAVE AGREED TO DO.
SO IT'S UP, IT'S UP TO YOU ALL IF YOU ALL WANT THEM TO, BUT IT, IT'S A FREE SERVICE THAT THEY AGREED TO, YOU KNOW, REVIEW THAT FORCEMENT, IT'S JUST UP TO THE COURT.
I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THE COURT GOT THE INFORMATION FIRST.
AND THAT THEY'RE GOOD THEN YES, I'LL BACK TRACK AND AND CONSULT WITH THOSE.
I THINK IT'S RICK THAT'S FOR YES.
AND, UM, GET, GET BY THERE SOMETIME WHEN IT'S MUTUALLY CONVENIENT.
SIT WITH THEM FOR SOME REVIEW TIME.
GATHER ANY THOUGHTS THAT THEY FIND I MAY HAVE JUMPED THE GUN.
WHAT, WHAT DID WE HIRE THEM TO DO A COUPLE WEEKS AGO? WE, WE ENGAGED THEM TO COMPLETE A TAX WORK PETITION.
SO THEY FILED THAT AS A LAST IN THE DAY, MAYBE TUESDAY.
AND THAT'S THE COMPLETE SCOPE OF THE SERVICES RIGHT NOW.
NOW THEY DID ADD THAT THEY WOULD COMPLETE THE FORM 8 43 REVIEW ALONGSIDE, BECAUSE WE'RE KIND OF TAKING TWO PATHS AT THE SAME TIME AND WE WANNA MAKE SURE THEY MATCH UP WHAT KAREN'S SAYING.
BUT THE FEE IS CAPPED IS A FLAT FEE THAT IS CA AT THAT $3,060.
AND THAT INCLUDES FILING THE PETITION, KNOWING WHAT'S NECESSARY TO GET THAT, TO GET THAT FILE AND TO UM, REVIEW THE EIGHT 40, THE 8 49 OR 8 43 THAT YOU HAVE 8 43 DOCUMENT.
SO, BUT IT IS A CAPPED AMOUNT AND IF THERE'S ANY MORE MONEY FOR ANY REASON THAT'S SPENT AT THAT FIRM WILL HAVE TO BE SOMETHING THAT COMES BACK TO THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT.
I'M NOT SAYING THAT'S GONNA HAPPEN, I'M JUST WANTING TO POINT THAT OUT, THAT IF THERE'S ANY MORE MONEY THAT IS TO BE SPENT ON THAT, IT WOULD COME BACK TO THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT AND IT WOULD REQUIRE A NEW AGREEMENT WITH THEM THAT IT STRICTLY CA AT FILING.
AND, AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE COULDN'T, UM, APPLY FOR OUR OURSELF OR WE SAME IN OURSELF.
UM, I, FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, UM, ITS PETITION I THINK IS FILED REALLY BY AN ATTORNEY THAT CPA, A FIRM HAS ON, ON STAFF THERE TO DO THAT.
SO IF YOUR QUESTION IS WHETHER REBECCA AND I COULD DO IT, NO, NO ONE IN OUR OFFICE CERTIFICATION.
SO NO, WE COULD NOT, YOUR HONOR, DID YOU UH, I TOLD THE COURT THAT DAY THAT THAT WAS KIND OF A PATH THAT THE COURT HAD TAKEN.
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MY DISCUSSION WITH, UH, UH, DAVID SKINNER AND CHIEF COUNSEL OF THE IRS WAS FILE FORM 8 43 WITH YOUR 46 69.UM, UH, GP AND P UH, CHOSE NOT TO DO THAT.
UH, THEY CHOSE TO FILE A, A DOCUMENT THAT'S APPARENTLY, I HAVEN'T SEEN IT, BUT I BELIEVE IT WAS, UH, WHAT THEY FILED WAS AN OFFER IN COMPROMISE AND, UH, AN OFFER AND COMPROMISE, UH, NORMALLY IS USED WHEN YOU OWE THE IRS MONEY AND YOU'RE ASKING THEM TO SETTLE FOR LESS.
SO, UH, I'M NOT, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW WHY THEY WENT THAT WAY, YOU KNOW, OR, BUT HE HAD, HE HAD CONVERSATION WITH IRS AND THEY SAID WE COULD HAVE FILED A FORM HIMSELF.
DAVID SKINNER'S CHIEF COUNSEL, IRS WASHINGTON TELLS ME, DO THIS NOW THEN, NOW THAT WE HAVE THIS AND ONCE I GET GP AND D TO DO THEIR FREE REVIEW OR ADDITIONAL COMMENTS, ONCE WE'RE SATISFIED THAT IT'S GOOD TO GO, THEN I'LL GET A COPY OF THIS TO DAVID SKINNER AND SEE IF HE CAN GET IT INTO THE PIPELINE, UM, IN A SPECIFIC WAY SO THAT IT'S NOT JUST SHOWING UP IN AUSTIN, TEXAS OR IT'S NOT JUST SHOWING UP IN OGDEN, UTAH.
UH, THAT, THAT, UH, I'LL GET WITH DAVID AND SEE IF WE CAN GET IT INTO THE TREASURY DEPARTMENT AND GET IT.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I HAVE A, I DON'T THINK WE NEED BEFORE I ANY FURTHER JUST BEEN A COUPLE WEEKS SINCE WE HAD, UH, TALKED ABOUT IT.
UM, I WANTED TO GET THIS AND GET THIS.
I APPRECIATE THE COURT'S TIME NUMBER, UH, EIGHT IS, UH, CHIEF BEAVERS WHO'S GOING TO DISCUSS WITH US AND ASKED US TO APPROVE A TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION REQUEST, A UHF REPEATER EQUIPMENT ON THE OLD RADIO TOWER LOCATED AT 3001 SOUTH WASHINGTON STREET AND CAUTION, WHICH IS THE SOUTH CAMPUS.
UH, THANK YOU'ALL THIS MORNING, BEEN WORKING WITH T Y'ALL WORK WITH ALL, ALL THE TIME PLACE PUT OR COMMUNICATE WITH OUT IN THE FIELD.
UH, I TALKED WITH GEORGE AND THE IT AND MADE SURE THAT THIS IS NOT GONNA INTERFERE WITH ANY OF OUR EQUIPMENT OR ANYTHING OUT THERE.
THEY BELIEVE THERE'S NO PROBLEMS AT ALL.
THE ONLY THING THAT WE WERE WAITING FOR IS A MAP WAS SUPPOSED TO BE, UH, GETTING A INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT.
SO REBECCA, AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE WAITING FOR ME.
WE'RE JUST WAITING FOR DA'S OFFICE TO LOOK AT LEGAL DOCUMENT.
WHAT I WOULD ASK THE, WELL, YOU KNOW, I'D LOVE TO HAVE IT, BUT IF FOR SOME REASON IT'S DELAYING THE HOUR RATE PROJECT AND IT'S GOING TO COST ADDITIONAL FUNDS, I MEAN, OUR AGREEMENT IS NOT EXCHANGING THE FUNDS IN ANY WAY.
SO I DON'T SEE HOW THE IMPACT, I MEAN WHAT IMPACT IT WOULD HAVE IF WE VOTE ON IT TODAY AND THEN GET IT LATER.
I'VE BEEN COMMUNICATING WITH HIM FOR MONTH AND A HALF, MAYBE A MONTH, AND IT'S JUST TAKEN FOREVER FOR THE TECH DOC TO GIVE THAT TO ME.
I THINK THEY SENT IT TO THEIR LEGAL DEPARTMENT AND THEN IT GOT STUCK.
I, THERE'S NO EXCHANGE OF FUNDS, THERE'S NO CHANGE OF FUNDS OR NOTHING.
IT'S JUST, I THINK WE'RE WAITING FOR AND I THINK EVERY LOCKS THE DOCUMENT AND I THINK, I THINK WE APPROVE YES.
APPROVAL OF THE DA WAITING AFTER THE DA'S APPROVAL.
OTHER QUESTIONS? SHOULD I HAVE A MOTION? DISREGARD A MOTION.
COMMISSIONER ALLEN HAVE THE MOTION WITH AFTER THE DA'S APPROVED.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSIONS? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
UH, NEXT ITEM IS DISCUSS PROVING A 20 CALL COUNTY RESOLUTION FOR INDI DEFENSE
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GRANT.HOPE Y'ALL HAD A GREAT WEEKEND.
SO THIS MORNING WE'RE GOING TO UM, I'M HERE TO GET YOU TO APPROVE THE RESOLUTION, UM, FOR THE FORMULA GRANT.
IT'S A DEFENSE FORMULA GRANT FOR THE INDIGENT DEFENSE.
IT'S BASED ON EACH COUNTY'S ELIGIBLE SPENDING AS WELL AS THE UPDATED POPULATION FIGURES.
SO THE ACTUAL AMOUNT WE WON'T HEAR FROM, UM, TO GET THAT EXACT AMOUNT UNTIL DECEMBER.
THE PAPER I JUST GAVE YOU SHOWS WHAT WE RECEIVED IN 2005.
AND YOU CAN LOOK BACK AND SEE WHAT THE OTHER AMOUNTS WERE.
WE WERE IN LOUISIANA ALL WEEKEND.
SO THE FAIR, IF WE DON'T APPLY, I MEAN WE JUST, WE DON'T GET THE MONEY.
IT'S ONLY ABOUT HUNDRED THOUSAND, THOUSAND HUNDRED THOUSAND.
BUT IT'S NOT NEARLY COST OF OUR DEFENSE PROGRAM.
THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS WE'LL BE LOOKING AT HERE.
BIT RESOLUTION, URGING LEGISLATURE, BIT OF MONEY THAT WE HAVE HERE IS IMPORTANT TO US.
WE HAVE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY A AYE.
YOUR, UH, NEXT ITEM IS, UH, THE NUMBER 10.
DISCUSS AND CONSIDER APPRO A REQUEST FOR ATMOS GAS TO DO A DIRECT ASSESSMENT ACCORDING TO TERRA LOCATED IN THE TON COUNTY PRECINCTS NUMBER TWO AND PRECINCTS NUMBER THREE AS TO WHAT EXACTLY THIS IS.
YEAH, ME WHAT'S A, WHAT'S A DIRECT ASSESSMENT? I DUNNO WHAT A DIRECT ASSESSMENT IS.
THEY DRILL LITTLE BIT OF PIN HOLES WHERE THE GAS LINE OFF THE TEST TO SEE WHEN THEY'RE GOING DOWN THE PIPELINE.
THEY DRILL LIKE A LESS THAN A FOUR INCH HOLE.
YEAH, THEY GO DOWN THE PIPELINE.
SO IT GETS IN, YEAH, IT GOES UNDER IT WHERE IT CROSSES ROAD, YOU KNOW, LIKE IT CROSSES, IT CROSSES RANGE, IT CROSSES, IT CROSSES CROSS OR SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, IT JUST KEEPS ON GOING AND THEY JUST GRILL GO QUARTER INCH HOLES BECAUSE I ASK THEM THE SAME THING OR HALF I THEY DO WHATEVER, 10, 15, WHATEVER.
THEY HIGHWAY BUSINESS PART ACROSS ANY KIND OF FORM AGREEMENT WE NEED.
I MEAN WE CAN'T OBVIOUSLY RESTRICT ANYONE FROM DRIVING ON OUR ROAD.
THEY'RE MORE THAN WELCOME TO DRIVE ON.
THEY AND THEY'RE NOT YEAH, THEY'RE NOT SAYING THAT THE BORING THE RIGHT OF WAY.
SO DON'T PERMIT PERMIT, IT'S JUST TO CHECK THEIR PIPELINE ON.
LOOKS LIKE YOU'RE NORMALLY TRACED UNDER ROAD.
THEY MIGHT NOT EVEN HIT CORN IN THE ROAD.
YOU KNOW, ALL THESE EXPLOSIONS EVERYWHERE.
I SAID THAT TESTING SOUNDS LIKE I DON'T WANT ANY NEIGHBORHOOD WARM ENOUGH.
I SAY WE PIPELINE COUNTY THREE SEVEN COMES BACK ALL THE WAY UP ALMOST INTO, UH,
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YOU TALKING ABOUT THAT'S A DEAD PIPELINE.SO MOTION, I WOULD JUST RECOMMEND THAT THE ROAD CREWS MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE NOTIFIED AND THAT YOU CAN KIND OF KEEP TRACK WHERE THE ACTIVITY IS, THE PRECINCT SO THAT CONSTRAINTS HAPPENING.
I DON'T THINK SHE'LL EVER KNOWS BECAUSE I DUNNO HOW, I DUNNO HOW.
YOU'RE GONNA, THEY MIGHT EVEN HIT THE PART.
THANK YOU MUCH FOR KIND OF CLARIFYING THAT.
AND ITEM NUMBER SEVEN, UH, IS DISCUSSED AND CONSIDERED PROVING THIS IS 3 46, 9 27.
THE MOTION TO DO, AND THEY ALSO CHIP WE DO FOR WHATEVER WE NEED FROM.
AND, AND THIS IS, THIS IS THE FIRST AMOUNT THAT WE'VE RECEIVED FROM, YOU KNOW, I, I THINK I REMEMBER SEEING THE AD BY YOUR OPPONENT, HE WAS RUNNING AGAINST YOU.
THAT, THAT YOU RECEIVED $90,000 AND IT WAS UNACCOUNTED FOR.
IS THAT A TRUE STATEMENT? I THAT BUT SO YOU DIDN'T RECEIVE $90,000 IN THE I MAKE A MOTION, WE, UH, SET THE DONATION FROM THE
PARDON? WHEN Y'ALL RECEIVE SOMETHING AS A DONATION, WE HAVE TO RECORD THAT BECAUSE IT'S OVER FIVE RECORD AS A DONATION.
I CAN HANDLE THAT
AND SEE WE WON'T HAVE A RECEIPT SO WE HAVE TO USE THE APPROVED MINUTES AS BACKUP TO RECORD THAT YOU'RE GONNA SEND ME ON FOLLOW ME LISA, I FIGURED YOU DID.
I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE YOU CAUGHT IT.
WE WE ACCEPT THE DONATION BEFORE THEY GIVE IT TO US.
IS THIS SOMETHING THAT THEY'RE GONNA GIVE TO US? NO, THEY ALREADY, THEY'VE ALREADY PAID THE BILL.
WE'RE JUST FILING THAT BECAUSE WE DIDN'T KNOW WHAT THE WAS GONNA BE.
NO, I I'M JUST ASKING THE QUESTION.
I'VE GOT SOMEBODY ELSE THAT'S GONNA GIVE MATERIAL.
YOU JUST THINK TAKE, WE DON'T HAVE, WE DON'T HAVE TO SAY ANYTHING ABOUT THAT UNTIL AFTER WE INSPECTED IT.
ESPECIALLY IF WE DUNNO HOW MUCH IT'S GONNA BE.
SO RAW MATERIALS IS KIND OF A SPECIAL AREA OF DONATIONS BECAUSE OFTENTIMES WE DON'T KNOW THE EXACT AMOUNT AND I LIKE TO HAVE ON THE COURT RECORD THE EXACT AMOUNT SO THAT FOR IS PURPOSES IT MATCHES UP.
UM, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO ACCEPT IT PRIOR TO SOMETHING HAPPENING, THAT'S FINE AS WELL.
WE JUST AMEND THE DONATION LATER ON WITH THE EXACT AMOUNT.
I THINK WHENEVER YOU GUYS WERE GETTING MATERIALS FROM SOMEONE, WE WERE GONNA GET SOME MATERIALS, BUT IT, IT NEVER CAME ABOUT.
SO WE THAT'S THE YEAH, ESPECIALLY, ESPECIALLY LIKE IF IT'S A PIECE OF LAND OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THEY MIGHT NOT HAVE THE VALUE.
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HAVE KIND OF YEAH, I UNDERSTAND.I REMEMBER I WAS TALKING ABOUT THIS A LONG TIME AGO, BUT I DON'T REMEMBER, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? THAT'S, YEAH, THERE WAS AN BEREAVE I BELIEVE I'VE BEEN TOLD BECAUSE I HAD A TENANT TO GET AN AGREEMENT ON THAT AND UH, I TOLD MY DA'S OFFICE I CAN'T HANDLE AN AGREEMENT ON, IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT AN AGREEMENT.
IT'S, IT'S, YOU'RE PROVING A DONATION.
WE'RE NOT MAKING A CONTRACT THIS WAY.
THEY'RE JUST GIVING BOTH YOUR 20 FOR A SPECIFIC ROAD.
CAN'T HAVE AGREEMENT AND CAN'T ACCEPT.
YEAH, HE NOT TALKING ABOUT THIS ONE.
WE HAVE THE POSSIBILITY OF GETTING SOME DONATIONS.
IS IT REQUIRED THAT WE COME TO COURT FIRST BEFORE WE ACCEPT THE DONATION? BEFORE WE KNOW THE AMOUNT? AND OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, NO.
BUT IF, HOW I WOULD DO IT, YES, I WOULD BRING IT FIRST AND SAY ROAD MATERIALS, THE AMOUNT, YOU KNOW, TO BE SPECIFIED, ESTIMATE AND GIVE AN ESTIMATE AND THEN RE PUT IT BACK ON, YOU KNOW, IF THE COURT ACCEPTS THAT DONATION AND SEND IT BACK TO THE CONSENT AGENDA AND SAY THIS IS THE AMOUNT THAT AMENDED, YOU KNOW, RECEIPT OF THAT DONATION AND THEN SEND IT BACK OVER.
MAKE SURE KAREN, LISA HAVE IT BECAUSE THERE'S OUR DEPARTMENTS, THEY'RE GONNA CROSS CHECK AND THEN IT GETS CORRECTLY, UM, DISTRIBUTED TO THE IRS.
WELL SOMETIMES LAST YEAR WE HAD A GUY CALL US, COME GET IT TO DUCK.
DON'T CAN YOU JUST, AND DON'T NOT GET, BUT I MEAN IF YOU'RE TALKING LIKE A YEAR LATER, YOU KNOW, THE AMOUNT THEN THAT'S ANOTHER THING.
THE, BEFORE WE VOTE, WE'VE GOT A MOTION AND SECOND ON THE TABLE.
UH, LADIES, THE DA'S OFFICE, CAN YOU GO BACK AND REVIEW THE DOCUMENT THAT THE COURT APPROVED THAT TWO OR THREE YEARS AGO ON 3 46, WHERE BETWEEN GRAND MATERIAL AND THE COUNTY THAT THEY WOULD, UH, MANAGE THEY FURNISH MATERIAL AND MAINTAIN THE ROAD FOR A 25 YEAR PERIOD? I WASN'T AWARE OF IT.
WE, WE WEREN'T AWARE OF IT, BUT SOMETHING LIKE THAT WE'D WANT TO BE AWARE OF BECAUSE YEAH, I WHAT WE WANT IN OUR OFFICE ON THAT BECAUSE THAT BECOMES SOMETHING THAT'S REALLY KIND OF AN ONGOING CONTRACT.
I, THAT HAS GOT BE, UM, AND IT PROBABLY IS SET UP WHERE IF IT'S NOT TIMELY AMOUNTS RECEIVED.
SO WHAT WE WOULD WANT IN THAT SITUATION, AND WE'LL GET WITH YOU COMMISSIONER, TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR OFFICE HAS A FILE WITH A COPY OF THAT CONTRACT IN IT AND WHERE IT'S BASICALLY DOCKETED WHENEVER THAT MONEY, THOSE MON ARE SUPPOSED TO BE PAID SO THAT WE HAVE A WAY OF TRACKING IT.
BECAUSE SOMETIMES THAT'S KIND OF A PROBLEM.
NOT NECESSARILY ANYBODY'S FAULT PER SE, BUT WITH THE CHANGE IN COMMISSIONERS, CHANGE IN PEOPLE IN THE DA'S OFFICE, THOSE ARE THINGS THAT HAVE TO BE DOCUMENT DOCKETED AND KEPT UP WITH THROUGH THE YEARS SO THAT, UM, PEOPLE KNOW THAT MONEY IS SUPPOSED TO BE PAID, COLLECTED AND DOESN'T JUST FALL THROUGH THE CRACKS.
WELL I, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE CHANGE, UH, THE TRINITY MATERIALS, THE SAME PEOPLE THAT ARE THERE TODAY.
I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT, YEAH, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT, SO I, I JUST, MAYBE WE NEED TO, WE NEED A SYSTEM.
IF, AND IF THERE ARE OTHER CONTRACTS MAYBE THAT PEOPLE KNOW ABOUT WHERE WE HAVE THAT FILE IN THE DA'S OFFICE AND IT'S SET UP ON A CALENDAR AND DOCKING SYSTEM WHERE, WHERE IT'S REALLY, REALLY, WHERE IT'S REVIEWED EVERY YEAR OR EVERY YEAR.
Y'ALL DON'T NEED ANYMORE FILES, YOU DON'T HAVE, IF NOT, IT IS SOMETHING THAT NOBODY THINKS ABOUT.
YOU KNOW, KIND EVENTUALLY JUST KIND STUMBLED OFF.
I'M SURE THE COUNTY CLERK PROBABLY HAS AN OFFICIAL COPY OF THE CONTRACT SOMEWHERE.
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THAT VOTE ON, ON THAT.UH, AND THIS IS ONE OF THE ONES PICKED UP.
WE WERE DOWN AT THE CONFERENCE IN GALVESTON, UH, AND IT DEALS, UH, HAD ONE RESOLUTION ALREADY PASSED.
BUT THIS DEALS WITH THE LEGISLATURE RESOLUTION JUDGES COMMISSIONER ASSOCIATION ASKING, UH, COURT ALL ACROSS TEXAS TO PASS ON CRIMINAL DEFENSE THAT THE STATE SHOULD BE PAYING MORE.
ONE, UH, WE CAN, UH, DO THIS AND WE CAN ALSO CHANGE THIS.
UH, THIS IS JUST, WE INCLUDE EVERYBODY'S NAME ON IT TO SEND IT IN SO THAT THERE'S NO DOUBT THAT, UH, LABELED SUPPORT THIS.
HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? MOTION THAT.
SECOND, MR. PHILLIPS HAVE THE DISCUSSION.
15 TO DISCUSS LINE ITEM TRANSFER.
YOU ONLY HAVE ONE LINE ON TRANSFER AND THAT WAS, UH, THE STACK, THE, UH, SHERIFF'S TRAINING NAMES THAT HE GETS.
UH, SO IN ONLY 17 AND THAT WAS THE 24,000 INVESTMENT.
COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER ALLEN.
DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER DISCUSSIONS? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
THEN ITEM NUMBER 16 IS TO DISCUSS YOUR FOR PAYMENT ARE 1,000,007 $49,522 AND 53 CENTS.
UM, EMPLOYEE INSURANCES WAS 497,000.
ROAD ON EXPENDITURES WERE 386 ROAD MATERIALS PRECINCT 1 3 4 WERE HUNDRED 44,000 AND THAT WAS THE, THE HUGEST FAULT FOR THE DEALS TIME.
SHERIFF'S LANDRY, CHECK 35 61.
IT HAS A DIFFERENT NAME ON THE CHECK.
THAT'S WHAT I WAS LOOKING FOR.
I WAS GONNA SAY THAT'S WHAT I SAID, MAN.
I SAID HE SCREW WASN'T HUNGRY.
YEAH, THAT'S A, THAT'S LIKE A CORPORATION THAT OWNS A HOTEL.
UH, IT SAYS ELMO REALTY DEVELOPMENT.
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I GOT MORE QUESTION.YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO ANSWER THIS ON THE, THE, I GUESS IT'S THE ARMORY, THE FENCE THAT THEY PUT UP.
THAT WAS BOBBY BRIDGE'S NUMBER.
I JUST WONDER IF THAT AMOUNT INCLUDED THE, I GUESS WE'VE A SECURITY GATE HE INCLUDED.
IT WAS A THOUSAND DOLLARS DIFFERENCE.
ON THE PO BECAUSE LISA AND I GOT INVOLVED IN THAT.
PARKING LOT AND I COMMEND COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS OVER JOB INCLUDED THE, FOR THE LIGHTS, THE FRONT METAL KEY.
OTHER QUESTION ABOUT THE MOTION.
AND SECOND WE TAKE QUICK 10 BREAK AND THEN IN AND WE'LL BE DISCUSSING LITIGATION REGARDING, SO WE NO, WE'LL COME BACK.
ISN'T LAURA'S NOT COMING BACK SO DON'T WAIT FOR HER.
SHE HAD, WE'RE GOT SOMETHING GOING ON AT OUR OFFICE.
WELL, WE UH, NEED A MOTION TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION AND I'VE ALREADY READ THE REASON WHY.
SO I HAVE A MOTION AND THE THE TIME IS 10 33.
I HAVE A MOTION ALLEN AND SECOND OPPOSED TO ME TO THE CAMERA.
ALRIGHT, WE HAD A MOTION TO EXIT THE EXECUTIVE SESSION.
AND, UH, SO WE HAVE THAT MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER IT SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER.
AND UH, SO NEXT ITEMS ITEM NUMBER THREE.
I FORWARD TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER TAKING ANY ACTION NEEDED AS A RESULT OF THE EXECUTIVE SESSION.
I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO, UH, CONVEY AN AUTHORITY TO THE DA'S OFFICE TO ACCEPT SETTLEMENT OFF FOR REGARD ONE OH PIPELINE LITIGATION AND FINALIZE SETTLEMENT.
ALRIGHT, WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER SHANE.
HAVE A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
ALRIGHT, WE'LL NOW MOVE BACK TO OUR REGULAR, UH, MEETING AGENDA AND ITEM NUMBER 17 IS TO ADJOURN.
YEAH, THIS IS THE, THAT COPIES OF THE, SO WE NEED A MOTION TO ADJOURN.
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COMMISSIONER ALLEN.WOULD IT, UH, ON THE WORKSHOP CANVAS, COULD WE START THAT BE A SPECIAL MEETING? SURE.
UH, WE'LL BEGIN TODAY 30 THEN, UH, WITH CANVASING RETURNS AND THEN WE'LL MOVE INTO A WORKSHOP SESSION.
OTHER ISSUES THAT WE HAVE, WE NEED THAT'S WE, THEY'LL CONFIRM YOU ON THE ISSUES AFTER THEY GET IT FINALIZED.
WE'LL GET A PRESS RELEASE TO THE JUDGE'S OFFICE.
WE'RE STILL, UM, FINISHING SOME OF THE SETTLEMENT DOCUMENTS, SO WE JUST WANNA GET THOSE DONE BEFORE WE SURE.
MAKE THIS STATEMENT, BUT WE'LL, UM, WE'VE GOT YOUR SO YEAH, JUDGE HAS IT TOO, BUT WE WILL ISSUE.