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COUNTY COMMISSIONER COURT, WE HAVE A QUORUM PRESENT AND TODAY IS MONDAY, NOVEMBER 28TH.
WE WELCOME ALL OF YOU HERE TODAY.
IF YOU'RE HERE, YOU'D LIKE TO SPEAK TO ANY ITEM THAT LISTED ON THE AGENDA, UH, PLEASE FEEL FREE TO FILL OUT A CONTACT FORM AND GIVE THAT TO COUNTY CLERK, UH, AND RECOGNIZE YOU DURING, UH, THAT TIME OF THE MEETING.
UH, WE'LL BEGIN WITH OUR, UH, INVOCATION AND THEN WE'LL HAVE THE, UH, PLEDGES TO, UH, BOTH OF OUR FLAGS YOU, YOU'VE SENT US, AND FOR THE FALL WEATHER THAT WE ENJOY.
SPECIAL THANKS FOR THIS TIME OF THE YEAR WHEN WE, UH, SOMETIMES FORGET ABOUT HOW MANY THINGS WE HAVE IN LIFE TO BE THANKFUL FOR.
WE KNOW ALL OF THESE BLESSINGS THAT YOU PROVIDE US OR FROM YOU, THEY'RE YOUR GIFT TO US, WHETHER WE DESERVE IT OR NOT.
FATHER, WE PRAY THIS MORNING THAT UH, YOU'LL KEEP ALL OF OUR, UH, UH, FIRST RESPONDERS AND, UH, ALL THE PEOPLE THAT WORK IN OUR COUNTY AND ACROSS, UH, THE STATE AND NATION, KEEP THEM SAFE.
UH, IT SEEMS LIKE LIFE DOESN'T MATTER VERY MUCH TO SOME PEOPLE.
FATHER, WE THANK YOU FOR BLESSINGS IN LIFE AND THAT YOU'LL KEEP US SAFE.
THESE SONS AMEN FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ON NATION UNDER GOD AND INDIVISIBLE.
LIBERTY, EVERYTHING OF JUSTICE FOR ALL ON HONOR THE TEXAS FLAG.
I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO BE JUSTICE LORD'S, FAITH UNDER GOD ONE.
AND, UH, I DON'T WISHING TO ADDRESS THE COURT LATER ON, ON ITEM THAT'S ON THE AGENDA.
FEEL FREE TO GET THAT INFORMATION OVER TO COUNTY CLERK.
ONE IS TO THE DISTRICT CLERK'S OFFICE.
ITEM D IS TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER REVIEWING MEMBERSHIP OF THE TEXAS CONFERENCE.
ITEM C IS TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDERING MEMBERSHIP NORTH CENTRAL TEXAS GO.
ITEM D IS TO, UH, DISCUSS DEMAND AND RESPONSE RIDERSHIP REPORT FOR SEPTEMBER, OCTOBER OF 16.
AND THEN ITEM E IS TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER REQUESTING, UH, PERMISSION, UH, TO CONSTRUCT AN ELECTRICAL POWER DISTRIBUTION FACILITY ACROSS UNIVERSITY DRIVE, WHICH IS LOCATED APPROXIMATELY TWO FOUR MILES OR COST COUNTY TEXAS.
IS THAT OKAY? UH, THE ONLY COMMENT I HAVE WE RECEIVED FROM THE, UH, TRANSIT, UH, FOR THE RIDERSHIP AND, UH,
SO THAT'S THE ONLY COMMENT I HAVE.
COMMISSIONER'S COURT INFORMED AS TO WHAT RIDERSHIP IS AND WHAT'S AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC.
IT'S A GOOD DEAL FROM FROM THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT TO WITH THEM AND BE OF THEIR SO CITIZENSHIP, SOME OF OUR FOLKS.
ALRIGHT, ANY OTHER COMMENTS? DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA WHAT IT IS OR NOT? NO, SIR.
I DON'T, I MEAN, I KNOW WHAT WE, THAT I'M NOT GOING LOOK RIGHT.
I THOUGHT AT ONE TIME WHEN THEY CAME AND TALKED TO US, THEY PRESENTED AN IDEA OF WHAT THEIR BUDGET WAS AND WHAT TO RUN.
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IT BEEN THREE MONTHS AGO, WE HAVE A MOTION FROM ALL IN FAVOR SAY OPPOSED.ITEM NUMBER THREE IS TO FROM OUR TREASURER, AND HE'S GOING THE, UH, MONTHLY OCTOBER 20.
THE OCTOBER, UH, 31ST TREASURY REPORT IN OUR GENERAL FUND FUND 10, AND THE, THE HANDOUT THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN IN YOUR PACKET, OUR BEGINNING VIOLENCE WAS 3 MILLION 4 54 5 66 0.85.
WE HAD RECEIPTS OF 1,000,012 18, 7 0 9 73 AND DISBURSEMENTS OF 3 MILLION 4 3 71 0.85.
SO WE HAD AT THE END OF OCTOBER AN ENDING BALANCE OF 1 MILLION 2 65 9 0 4 7 3.
AND UH, DURING THE MONTH OF NOVEMBER, WE HAVE, UH, UH, MOVED THE MONEY OUT OF THAT.
UH, ITEM 17, THE GENERAL, UH, MONEY MARKET INVESTMENT MMI THAT HAS BEEN COMBINED WITH THE GENERAL FUND.
UH, YOU CAN SEE THAT AT THE END OF OCTOBER IN FUND 1 28 FROM THE ORIGINAL ISSUANCE OF ROAD BOND, WE STILL HAD 5 BILLION 9 28 9 3 4 0.34 THAT DID NOT YET BEEN SPENT.
AND THEN YOU CAN SEE THAT WE'VE BEEFED UP THIS REPORT A LITTLE BIT TO KEEP THE COURT AND THE PUBLIC INFORMED ABOUT THE, UH, CURRENT ISSUANCE OF ROAD BOND FUNDS.
BEGINNING BALANCE WAS 26 MILLION 0 0 2 0 9 4 50, AND POOL PAID INTEREST OF 15,009 65.98.
THAT'S ABOUT 38 BASIS POINTS INSTEAD OF 35 BASIS POINTS IN AMERICAN NATIONAL.
AND SO PRODUCING AN ENDING VIOLENCE THERE AT 26 MILLION OH 18 0 6 8.
AND YOU CAN SEE THE INTEREST ON OUR BANK ACCOUNTS AT AMERICAN NATIONALS, WHICH IS ALL FUNDS OWNED BY THE COUNTY EXCEPT FOR THOSE THAT ARE AT, UH, THE ROAD BOND FUNDS OF
THAT INTEREST EARNING WAS 4 MILLION, OR EXCUSE ME, 4,000 4 96 AS WE NORMALLY DO.
WE'VE GOT A SECURITY LISTING ATTACHED FOR YOU.
WE, WE SHOW YOU THAT, UM, AMERICAN NATIONAL HAS FORGIVEN $4,200 OF, UH, BANK CHARGES AS PART OF OUR DEPOSITORY CONTRACT.
UM, OUR, UM, OTHER PROCEEDINGS ARE VERY SIMILAR TO THE, UH, PRIOR MONTHS.
YOU KNOW, WE, WE PROCESSED 443 RECEIPTS.
UH, WE DISPOSITIONED 5 85 AP CHECKS, UH, NEARLY 1100 PAYROLL CHECKS IN DIRECT DEPOSIT.
AND THEN, UH, LAST THING I'LL TOUCH ON IS THE, UH, OUR, OUR DEBT.
AND, UM, THAT SCHEDULE HAS IT, THAT THE TOTAL INTEREST IN PRINCIPLE, UM, OUTSTANDING ON COUNTY DEBT OBLIGATIONS AND EXCLUDING LONG TERM EQUIPMENT LEASES IS 98 MILLION 4 9 2 7 42.
UM, AND THEN, YOU KNOW, THE LAST TWO PAGES ARE THE INDIVIDUAL CASH ACCOUNTS THAT WE SEE IN OUR RECORDS.
AND I, UH, TOOK THE, UM, INITIATIVE THIS MORNING TO FINISH WHERE WE ARE TODAY TO TAKE ANOTHER 30 SECONDS HERE OR A MINUTE, JUDGE.
AND, UM, WE'VE, UH, THE MONTH OF NOVEMBER, UH, OUR, UH, PROPERTY TAX COLLECTIONS HAVE BEGUN TO COME AND I KNOW WE'LL HEAR FROM THE TAX COLLECTOR SHORTLY.
UH, BUT, UH, OUR OCTOBER GENERAL FUND OF THE TOP LINE ON THE FRONT PAGE THAT I GAVE YOU, UH, 1,000,002 65 4 75, OUR RECEIPTS ALREADY ENDING MONTH OF NOVEMBER, UM, SIX 90
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OF 5 36 4 40.AND WE HAD INFORMED THE COURT THAT THE AUDITOR AND I WOULD BE BORROWING MONEY FROM ROAD AND BRIDGE FUNDS, UH, TO, TO, UH, PROVIDE FOR THAT SHORTAGE.
ANY QUESTIONS, GENTLEMEN? THOROUGH REPORT.
ANYBODY HAVE ANY, ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? HONOR COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS ALL HANDED BACK.
ALRIGHT, THE NEXT ITEM IS NUMBER FOUR AND THAT'S HERE FROM OCTOBER 16.
MORNING GENTLEMEN, IN THE MONTH OF OCTOBER, UH, FOR OUR GENERAL FUND, WE COLLECTED 160,500 FOR M AND O AND 20 2009 FOR INS AND 89 9 FOR DELINQUENT TAXES FOR A TOTAL OF $273,464.
COLLECTED FOR, UM, GENERAL FUND FOR ROAD AND BRIDGE.
UM, WE COLLECTED $33,349 AND AT
WE DID NOT HAVE ANY ROLLBACKS THIS MONTH AND WE ARE JUST IN THE BEGINNING STAGES.
THE NEXT TWO MONTHS ARE HERE, BIG MONTHS.
ANY QUESTION ON REPORT? ANY QUESTIONS? WE HAVE MOTION ALLEN.
HAVE SOMETHING ELSE, I'M SORRY.
COURT ABOUT ELECTRONIC VOTING.
VOTING A PATTERN THAT SHOWS THAT WE CAN GO FORWARD TO VOTE CENTERS.
WE TALKED TO THE SECRETARY STATE AND TOLD US THAT HOPEFULLY TODAY, NOT IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF DAYS, THEY'RE GONNA PUT SOMETHING OUT SPECIFICALLY ABOUT THAT.
BUT IN THE ELECTION MANUAL ITSELF, IT SAYS THAT THEY ONLY TAKE SIX COUNTIES A YEAR, EVEN WITH A POPULATION OF ABOVE HUNDRED THOUSAND.
SO, UM, WE HOPE TO BE ONE OF THOSE COUNTIES.
I'LL PASS INFORMATION TO ANGIE AND, AND BECAUSE THE WAY THE CODE IS WRITTEN, THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT, THE ONES WHO MUST REQUEST VOTE, NOT THE ELECTIONS.
SO, UH, PART OF BEING ABLE TO DO THAT IS YOU HAVE TO HOLD A HEARING.
SO I JUST GIVE YOU SOME ADVANCE NOTES THAT INFORMATION INTO YOUR OFFICE, JUDGE YOU GET IT AND DISCUSS THAT.
BUT, UM, WE'LL SEE WHAT THEY HAVE TO SAY THIS WEEK WHEN THEY COME OUT.
SOME PARTICULAR INFORMATION ABOUT BOOK CENTERS THAT THEY SENT, WHAT THEY HAVE ABOUT TODAY.
BUT OUR, AS FAR AS OUR, UM, THE ELECTRONIC VOTING WENT, WE HAD, UM, HAD A FEW PEOPLE COMPLAINED.
WE, WE REALLY ONLY HAD ONE YOUNGER PERSON COMPLAIN.
UM, AND THEY GOT ANGRY ABOUT WHEN THEY CAME BACK.
UM, SO WE HAD MAYBE ABOUT 10 PEOPLE THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY.
SO OUT OF LIKE, WHAT, 41,800 AND SOME VOTES, WE HAD ABOUT 10 PEOPLE WHO COMPLAINED AND VOTE BY PAPER.
AND WHEN IT WAS EXPLAINED TO THEM, THEY DIDN'T HAVE A RIGHT TO VOTE BY PAPER THEY VOTED, ONE PERSON AROUND WALKED OUT.
THAT'S THE ONLY ONE OF GIRL FOR SURE THAT ACTUALLY LEFT.
THE OTHERS WERE FRUSTRATED THAT THEY
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WENT AHEAD AND VOTED.SO THE CAPABILITIES IN VOTE LIKE KIND IS THERE.
IT'S A MATTER OF CRAP AT THIS POINT, CORRECT? A FEW PEOPLE, BUT IT WAS A VERY SMALL MINORITY, UH, THAT EXPRESSED THERE.
UH, DISLIKE FOR OUR COUNTY VOTING.
WE DID HAVE, UH, A REALLY LARGE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE WHO DID EARLY VOTING, UH, WHICH WAS GOOD THAT BECAUSE OF ALL OF THE ELECTRONIC VOTING, UH, WE EXPECTED AS ON THE ELECTION STAFF TO NOT ADD HERE TWO OR THREE IN THE MORNING BECAUSE WE KNOW WE CAN GET OUT HERE.
12 ONE, WE HAVE, WE HAD BOTH VOTING BEFORE, SO WE WERE, WE WERE DONE BY 10 UNHEARD OF.
SO IT REALLY MAKES IT EASIER FOR THE, TO GET RESULTS OUT FASTER TOO.
USE MAKES, I MEAN THREE PAGES, PAPERWORK.
WELL, YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY HAS A DIFFERENT OPINION ON THAT.
I PERSONALLY THINK IT MAKES IT EASIER.
UH, I THINK IN THIS ELECTION, BECAUSE IT WAS A PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION, IT WOULDN'T MATTER THAT WE HAD PAID FOR ELECTRONICS, IT WOULD'VE BEEN LINES.
SO I DON'T THINK THERE'S AN ISSUE OF LINES WITH ELECTRONIC VOTING.
I THINK IT'S, IT'S, I THINK ON THE INSIDE MAY PASTURE FROM WHAT I, IT MOVED.
DID YOU HAVE ANY REPORTS FROM PEOPLE THAT VOTED STRAIGHT TICKET AND WENT BACK AND CHECKED THEIR, UM, CANDIDATES TO MAKE SURE THEY WERE ALL ACKNOWLEDGED AND FOUND OUT? NOT ALL OF THEM WERE.
WE HAD A COUPLE PEOPLE WHO SAID THAT IT HAPPENED, BUT WE CHECKED THE MACHINE BEFOREHAND.
WE DID OUR LA'S AND WE GOT, UM, A MESSAGE FROM, UH, EMAILS FROM SECRETARY OF STATE TO ALL ELECTION OFFICIALS SAYING THAT ON THOSE PARTICULAR MACHINES THAT WE USE, THAT REGARDLESS OF ANY ANECDOTAL REPORTING THAT MAY HAVE COME, BUT THERE HAVE NEVER BEEN A SINGLE INCIDENT THAT HAS IMP PROVEN THAT THAT HAS ACTUALLY HAPPENED.
SO I THINK WE HAD TWO PEOPLE THAT SAID THAT HAPPENED.
AND MY QUESTION WHEN PEOPLE SAY THAT HAPPENED IS BROKEN, IF IT DID HAPPEN, DO TELL THE JUDGE, THEY USUALLY TELL THE JUDGE AFTER.
NO, THE JUDGE CAN'T SEE THAT IT ACTUALLY HAPPENED.
SO I HAVE NO PROOF THAT IT EVER ACTUALLY HAPPENED.
SO WE'LL WAIT FOR THE, UM, THIS, THIS WEEK THE STATE SHOULD BE OUT, SOMEBODY ON ELECTRONIC JUST IN CASE THERE'S ANY CHANGES THEY WANNA MAKE.
AND I'LL SEND THE RULES ON WHAT'S REQUIRED OVER TO YOUR OFFICE JUDGE TO OF YOU IF YOU WANNA READ IT, JUST YOU CAN.
I'LL SEND, THERE'S ALWAYS A FEW.
IT'S MOSTLY THE OLDER GENERATION THAT WANTS THE ABILITY TO VOTE AND PERHAPS WAS, OH, I KNOW.
VOTE CENTERS ARE SUCH A GREAT IDEA.
AND WHEN YOU CAN CUT DOWN YOUR NUMBER OF VOTE CENTERS, 75% EVENTUALLY 50% EVERY OF.
OKAY, WELL THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
I BELIEVE THAT REQUIRES CONNECTION ON THE COURT JUST TO RECORD AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE.
ITEM NUMBER SIX IS TO, UH, HAVE OUR MONTHLY REPORT OR OCTOBER 20 MORNING.
DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON YOUR QUARTER REPORT? AS USUAL, YOU KNOW, OUR PROPERTY TAX MONEY HADN'T COME IN, SO OUR REVENUES ARE LOW FOR THAT MONTH.
THE COMPARISON OF LAST YEAR, WE WERE EVEN LOWER THAN LAST YEAR'S AT THIS TIME, BUT OUR EXPENDITURES WERE QUITE LOWER TOO.
COMPARE THOSE ON THE BACK WHERE WE HAVE YOUR, YOUR, YOUR GRAPH, UH, SALARY FOR ABOUT 42% OF, UH, THOSE EXPENDITURES.
OUR BENEFITS WAS 26% AND THE, UH, TRANSFER INTO THEIR FUNDS WERE 249,000.
SO THAT'S WHAT MADE UP EXPENDITURES
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ANALYSIS.ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE AUDITOR? MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS TO ACCEPT THE SHANNON SECONDS, THE MOTION? DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR? SAY ITEM NUMBER, UH, SIX, I'M SORRY.
NUMBER SEVEN IS TO DISCUSS NEW CONSIDER DISPOSITION, ESTABLISHED PROPERTY PROCEEDING, NO BIDS AND MAY BASE IN ACCORDANCE FOR LDC.
LETTERS AS YOU WELL KNOW, THERE'S A, THERE WERE THREE ITEMS THAT RECEIVED NO BID.
UH, LOT TWO 11 FROM PRECINCT TWO, LOT 2 0 8, AGAIN FROM PRECINCT TWO AND 5 0 6, WHICH WAS IN SURPLUS AT THE UH, SOUTH KANSAS.
UM, I JUST WANTED THE COURT TO GO AHEAD AND PASS WHERE THEY CAN EITHER BE RECYCLED, SOLD TRADE IN, WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE, WHERE THEY CAN, UM, BECAUSE I THINK THIS IS ENGINE, SOMEBODY INDICATED THAT IT COULD BE TRADED IN TOWARDS SOMETHING ELSE, I BELIEVE.
AND UH, THE MUDS I BELIEVE COULD BE RECYCLED.
AND THOSE DESKS ARE PROBABLY, WHAT IS IT? THERE'S DESKS.
THERE'S ONE THAT'S STILL IN PREVIOUS SHAPE TO THE SIDE.
THERE'S ONE THAT'S JUST WE SECOND COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS DISCUSSION.
I, ALRIGHT, AND ITEM NUMBER EIGHT IS TO DISCUSS, CONSIDER POSTING COMPETITIVE DUTY NOTICES FOR VARIOUS MATERIALS, ANNUAL CONTRACT, PURSU CODE.
AGAIN, I'LL RUN THAT AD, GET IT IN THE PAPER THIS WEEK AND HOPEFULLY GET IT CLOSED AND THEN MAYBE AWARDED ON THE, YOU NEED, I JUST NEED PERMISSION, PERMISSION TO DO THAT.
HAVE MOTION COMMISSIONER, COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS, ANY OTHER DISCUSSIONS? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
AND I HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THE BUILDING QUESTIONING WE'RE STARTED.
WE'VE DONE SOME PAINTING, SOME LIGHTING AND UH, MY QUESTION IS CONCERN ABOUT, I WENT TO THE OFFICER'S OFFICE LAST TUESDAY AND UH, SHE PROVIDED ME SOME INFORMATION.
WHAT WAS, AND IN MY RESEARCH I ACTUALLY DISCOVERED, AND I'LL KAREN, I'VE GOT ONE FOR KAREN B OH KAREN B SORRY, IN THIS PACKET, UH, THAT PROVIDED SHOWS THAT UH, WE HAD, UH, GOT SOME BID ON SOME FLOORING AND WE ALSO HAD SOME, UM, PRICES THERE FOR PAINT AND INVOICES.
AND UH, MY QUESTION IS THE, UH, WE WE PAID, UM, 20 1003 99 29
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FOR SOME CAR AND UM, I THINK WE'RE AT A STANDSTILL CAR.JEFF, CAN YOU TELL US WHY WE'RE AT A STANDSTILL? WELL, I THINK THE ISSUE HAS BEEN IN OUR MAINTENANCE DIRECTOR IS BOBBY, IS HE STILL, HE JUST HELPING THE LADIES UP THE CAR OFF JUDGE.
PARDON? HE IS HELP ASSISTING A LADY, GENTLEMAN CAR.
UH, I THINK THE ISSUE HAS BEEN THAT WHEN THEY STARTED TRYING TO TAKE UP THE CARPET, IT ALSO BROUGHT UP THE TILE, THE OLD TILE THAT WAS UNDER IT.
AND THAT NOT THE TILE ITSELF, I DON'T THINK, BUT ASTIC THAT IT CAUSED THE, YOU KNOW, THE GLUE HAD ACTUALLY HAD, UH, ASBESTOS FIBER IN IT.
AND SO, UH, I I'M ALMOST CERTAIN THAT TOLD IT WAS GONNA TAKE FIVE OR SIX DAYS TO REMOVE THAT, BUT WE HAVE TO HAVE ALL THE AIR TESTING EQUIPMENT IN AND DO ALL THAT AS WELL.
SO IT WAS REALLY KIND OF UNFORESEEN BECAUSE I THINK WHAT WE PLANNED ON DOING IS JUST TAKING UP THE OLD PARKING AND DID PULLING UP TILE.
SO TIMING WAS TRYING TO FIND THE TIME WHEN THIS BUILDING WOULD BE SHUT DOWN.
MY MY QUESTION IS WHO'S GONNA DO IS COMPLETE THE INSTALLATION? UH, I HE'S PRETTY WELL IN CHARGE OF THAT.
I DUNNO, YES, WE HAVE THIS ESTIMATE DATED EIGHT 12 OF 15 THAT HAS ALL THE, THE ITEMIZED WORK DONE.
AND UM, IN THAT VERY FIRST LINE YOU'LL SEE IT SAYS LABOR AND MATERIAL TO DEMO EXISTING FLOORING AND INSTALL NEW PART TILE.
IT'S GOT THE DESCRIPTION TILE FROM MY UNDERSTANDING THAT'S YEAH, YEAH, EXACTLY.
AND, AND IN THAT, I MEAN, IN MY OPINION, AND I ASK COUNCIL TO INFER THAT THEY'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE LABOR MATERIAL.
SO, YOU KNOW, MY QUESTION IS, ARE WE GONNA HOLD THEM TO THIS ESTIMATE AS FAR AS FINISHING THE JOB THEY MIGHT HAVE KNOWN.
ARE WE GONNA HOLD TO THIS CONTRACT TO FINISH THE JOB? WELL, IT WAS JUST ASKING, IT WAS SIGNED AND DATED EIGHT 13, SO THAT WAS ACCEPTED.
AND IF YOU'LL NOTICE THE, UH, I THINK IT'S THE FOURTH PAGE IN THE PACKAGE.
WE HAVE A PURCHASE ORDER, UH, DATED 9 30 16.
AND UH, SO WE, WE HAVE AN ESTIMATE DATED 12, AND THEN WE HAVE A REVISED ONE DATED 9 29 AND THEN WE HAVE A PO ISSUED THE DAY AFTER.
AND THAT IS A VIOLATION OF A PERSON POLICY TO ISSUE A PO THE DAY AFTER A INVOICE.
WE HAVE A 25,000, UH, FOR STUFF THAT DOESN'T HAVE TO COME TO COURT.
AND THE PO WAS ISSUED CONTRACT SIGNED FOR 27,000 8 0 7.
AND AGAIN, THAT IS A DIRECT VIOLATION OF OUR PURCHASING POLICY.
AND I GUESS MY QUESTION IS, JUDGE, WHY WAS THIS NOT BROUGHT BEFORE? I'M NOT SURE, BUT IT, YOU REMEMBER, WHATEVER JACK DID, I BELIEVE I PRO PROVIDED YOU WITH THE OTHER BIDS THAT WERE, IT WAS BID THAT HE HAD GOTTEN SEVERAL ESTIMATES LIKE THREE, FOUR ESTIMATES SOMETHING.
AND I HAVE, THAT'S, THAT'S NOT THE QUESTION ABOUT IT BEING BID OUT.
THE POLICY IS THAT'S ACTUALLY, IT'S 2025 IS, SO THE QUESTION IS WHY WOULD PERSON POLICY VIOLATED AND UM, AND WITH THE, WITH THE, UH, TWO ITEMS IN YOUR PACKET OF THE PAINTING AND THE, THAT BRINGS IT WELL, SO WE'RE NOT FINISHED YET.
MY QUESTION IS APPROACH $50,000
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BEFORE WE FINISH.IF SO, THEN THAT SHOULD BE, BUT MY MAIN CONCERN IS THE PERSON THAT WENT ON THAT THE PO WAS ISSUED THE DAY AFTER WE GOT AN INVOICE AND CLIENT WAS GONNA THE COURT, I, I CAN'T ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS.
I'M NOT PREPARED TO DO THAT THIS MORNING.
I MEAN THIS WAS YOUR, THIS WAS YOUR ITEM.
IT YOU, BECAUSE IT ON, ON THIS INVOICE, UM, THE CUSTOMER FAX NUMBER IS, UH, THE FAX NUMBER IN YOUR OFFICE.
SO YOU APPARENTLY, OKAY, THE PAYMENT THROUGH, I'M ASSUMING ART'S OFFICE OF 21 3 99, THAT WAS PART OF THE CAR.
WELL IT, IT SAYS INVOICE FOR MATERIAL ONLY, BUT IN THE ESTIMATE IT WAS NOT BROKEN OUT INTO LABOR ONE ITEM AND MATERIAL ANOTHER ITEM.
SO HOW DO WE KNOW WITHOUT AN INVOICE OR BID TO RECOGNIZE THE 21 9 29? HOW DO WE KNOW EXACTLY WHAT WE GOT FOR OUR MONEY? AND MY MAIN CONCERN IS THAT, OR THEY GOING FINISH THE JOB FOR THIS IT, SO WHATEVER THEY FIND UNDER THIS EXISTING PROPERTY IS ACTUALLY THEIR, THEIR CONCERN.
COUNSEL, DO YOU HAVE ANY WELL I I GUESS I'D JUST START OFF WITH WE HAVEN'T SEEN THAT PACKET AND I WISH THAT IT WOULD'VE BEEN SUBMITTED TO OUR OFFICE PRIOR TO THE DAY SO THAT WE COULD HAVE THE MORE MEANINGFUL DISCUSSION ABOUT IT.
BUT YOU BRING UP SEVERAL DIFFERENT LEGAL CONCERNS.
SO I JUST ASK THAT YOU MAYBE COME OVER TO OUR OFFICE WHETHER TODAY, TOMORROW, AND WE CAN GO THROUGH EACH ONE OF YOUR QUESTIONS AND THAT WAY WE HAVE TIME TO LOOK AT IT AND THEN, AND EXACTLY WHAT THE ALLEGATIONS ARE AND GO THROUGH.
WELL, I MEAN IT IS BEEN BLACK AND WHITE.
YOU SEE THE, YOU SEE THE ESTIMATE.
COMMISSIONER RESPECT, I'M NOT GONNA ENGAGE IN THIS LEGAL DISCUSSION WITHOUT HAVING FURTHER REVIEW THE PACKET.
I HAVE NOT HAD A CHANCE TO DO THAT.
OKAY, WELL WE'LL PUT IT ON THE AGENDA FOR NEXT TO DISCUSS AND WE'LL REVIEW IT THAT SOMETHING.
I KNOW AT THE TIME THAT WE PAID THE BILL FOR THE CARPET, THE COUNCIL, THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT QUESTIONED ME ON THE BILL AND I EXPLAINED TO HIM THAT THE PO WAS MORE THAN THE ACTUAL BILLABLE CARPET, BUT THERE WAS STILL MONEY OUT THERE FOR THE INSTALLATION OR THE LAYMAN CARPET, WHATEVER YOU WANNA CALL IT.
THE PO WAS ISSUED FOR MORE THAN ONE CARPET COSTS IS WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY.
SO I THINK THAT MIGHT BE THE PART THAT WAS THE LABOR JACK WAS HERE AND I DON'T REMEMBER HOW HE ADDRESSED IT.
WE GONE ON, BUT I APOLOGIZE, I JUST DON'T REMEMBER THAT PART OF IT.
WELL I THINK THAT THAT WAS UNDER THE ANTICIPATION OF BOBBY BEING HIRED AND THEY WANTED TO GO AHEAD AND GET THE CARPET PAID FOR ON THAT SINCE IT WAS ALREADY BUDGETED OUT OF THAT BUDGET.
AND THEN THAT PO WAS, THAT'S WHAT I'M RECALLING NOW IN THE BACK OF THE MIND.
YES, AND THAT'S, UH, I THINK THE PO WAS REWORKED JUST TO REFLECT THAT WE WERE PAYING FOR THE MATERIAL ITSELF SINCE, YOU KNOW, THE LABOR HAD NOT BEEN TAKEN CARE OF YET.
AND THEN BOBBY WAS HIRED SHORTLY THEREAFTER AFTER THAT.
AND BUT THE QUESTION WAS, UH, BOBBY, BEFORE YOU, WHILE YOU WERE OUT DARK CAR, WAS THE, THE PLAN FOR, UH, INSTALLATION OF THE AND THE BUILDING HAVE YOU BRING COURT UP TO DATE? I THINK THE OTHER ISSUE THAT
BUT WHEN WE WERE TRYING TO REMOVE THE CARPET, UH, THE TILE STARTED COMING UP WITH THE CARPET.
AND THAT WAS THE ORIGINALLY STOPPED AT THAT POINT IN TIME? YES SIR.
BECAUSE IT COULD, COULD NOT CONTINUE.
SO IS IS TAR COMPLETE THE ESCALATION? UM, YES.
THEY, THEY WERE THE ONES THAT WERE GONNA PUT THE CARPET BACK IN.
I, WE DID FIND THE ASBESTOS IN BEFORE WHENEVER WE, THEY PULL THE CARPET UP.
UM, AND WE IMMEDIATELY STOPPED AS SOON AS WE, IT TILE WAS COMING UP.
I HAVE, I HAD THREE BIDS ON THE ASBESTOS REMOVAL AND ONE BID ON THE ERROR.
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VS IS THE COMPANY THAT THE USED OR IS USERS REMOVE THE ASBESTOS HERE AT THE, UH, CITY HALL.HE'S CHARGING UH, 3,700 BUCKS.
BUT HE VOTED FOR US TO, TO MONITOR THE AIR QUALITY WHILE THEY DO THE REMOVAL HERE.
AND I HAVE THREE DIFFERENT QUOTES ON THE, UH, ASBESTOS REMOVAL RANGING FROM FIVE DAYS TO SEVEN DAYS.
UM, SEVERAL OF THEM GAVE US OPTIONS IF YOU WANT TO DO IT ALL AT ONE TIME OR IF YOU WANT TO BREAK IT UP INTO FIVE WEEKENDS.
FIVE WEEKENDS WAS GONNA BE A WHOLE LOT MORE EXPENSIVE IF YOU DO IT ALL AT ONE TIME.
SO IT'S BASICALLY, UH, ABOUT 20 GRAND VERSUS 40,000.
SO BASICALLY DOUBLES YOU BREAK IT UP OVER FIVE.
UM, ONE PRIORITY GAVE ME A BOOK OF $16,840 TO REMOVE ALL THAT ASBESTOS.
AND THAT'S DOING IT IN SIX DAYS STRAIGHT.
SO WE HAVE TO SHUT DOWN FOR SIX DAYS STRAIGHT TO HAVE THAT DONE.
UM, THAT WAS THE LOWEST VEHICLE THAT I'VE RECEIVED SO FAR.
THIS, THIS GUY FROM BRADLEY ENVIRONMENTAL SERVICES, HE WAS SUPPOSED TO GIMME ONE MORE GUY TO COME OUT, HAVE FOUR DIFFERENT BID TO LOOK AT AND REVIEW ON THE ASBESTOS.
UM, THAT'S KIND OF WHERE WE'RE AT RIGHT NOW.
I KNOW THAT SHUTTING THIS TAX OFFICE DOWN IS A PROBLEM.
THAT'S WHY WE HAD PROCEED WHERE WE'RE GOING YET.
UM, BECAUSE WE SOMEHOW WE'VE GOTTA OUT, WE SHUT DOWN FOR FIVE DAYS, SIX DAYS.
WELL THAT'S EVERYBODY THEIR IN THE LAST WEEK OF THE YEAR.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHERE, THAT'S WHERE I'M AT BASED ON ADVICE WE RECEIVED FROM THE DA'S OFFICE, UH, APPEARS THAT THEY WOULD LIKE SOME MORE INFORMATION BEFORE THEY GIVE US SOME OPINION ON THIS.
AND I WOULD SUGGEST THAT WE ITEM INFORMATION TO, TO DO THAT.
I HAVE A MOTION FROM, UH, MR. PHILLIPS TO TABLE ITEM NUMBER NINE.
DO HAVE A SECOND? I I GOT ONE QUESTION.
WHAT IS THE PENALTY FOR VIOLATING PERSON POLICY? AND I'M SORRY, WHAT WAS YOUR QUESTION? WHAT'S THE, WHAT IS THE PENALTY FOR VIOLATING POLICY AND WHO ENFORCES IT? THERE'S NOT, ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT OUR COUNTY? YES MA'AM.
UM, BASICALLY I WOULD JUST DIRECT YOU TO LOOK I THINK IN THE, UM, HR, THE EMPLOYMENT HANDBOOK OR THE PURCHASING POLICY HANDBOOK.
I THINK THAT'S IN THE VERY LAST PART OF THAT HANDBOOK.
AND UM, AND I'LL JUST INVITE YOU TO THERE AND ALSO COMMISSIONER, YOU WELCOME DA'S OFFICE ANY TIME AND WE'LL ADDRESS THESE QUESTIONS.
I'M NOT ALWAYS PREPARED ON THE SPOT TO JUST ANSWER, YOU KNOW, ALL THE QUESTIONS, BUT YOU'RE MORE THAN, AND I CAN CERTAINLY ADDRESS ANY OF THOSE QUESTIONS.
I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE AN APPOINTMENT IF YOU JUST WITH ME THAT YOUR EARLIEST OPINIONS.
WELL JUST E EMAIL A TIME AND YOU KNOW, WE'RE ALWAYS AVAILABLE.
YOU MET WITH US AND WE'RE ALWAYS AVAILABLE.
HAVE CINDY CALL US, SET UP APPOINTMENT.
WE'RE ALWAYS AVAILABLE TO HELP THE COURT, THE COURT.
BUT I'M, BUT I'M JUST NOT ALWAYS, I DON'T HAVE THE PURCHASING POLICY IN FRONT OF ME.
I CAN'T DIRECT IT TO THOSE PAGES RIGHT NOW AND I'M NOT GOING TO GIVE ADVICE THAT'S INCORRECT.
NOT ON PURPOSE BY ANY MEANS, BUT I I'M NOT GOING TO, UM, TO GIVE INFORMATION AND I NEED TO LOOK AT, AND I WANNA QUOTE FROM, FROM THE MAYOR, MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND YOUR QUESTION.
SO YOU RECORD THE WELCOME, JUST WE'LL TAKE THIS AND WE'LL BRING UP AND, AND COMMISSIONER YOU, YOU WERE ASKING WHAT IS THE, WHAT'S THE PENALTY UNDER VIOLATING WITHIN THE COUNTY? THAT IS THAT THE COUNTY PERSON POLICY RIGHT? PASSED IN COMMISSIONER'S COURT.
AND, AND WE SORT OF TALKED ABOUT THAT WHEN WE MET BEFORE ON ANOTHER ANCILLARY ISSUE, IF I REMEMBER.
BUT I DON'T KNOW IF WE EVER REALLY RESOLVED WHAT WOULD BE THE
WHEN YOU SAID THERE'S TWO THINGS WE'RE TALKING VIOLATING STATUTE OR WHAT THE COUNTY POLICY IS, BUT IF I'M, I COULDN'T FIND ANYTHING IN THE STATE STATUTE THAT REFER TO COUNTY POLICY.
IT WON'T REFER TO COUNTY POLICY 'CAUSE THOSE ARE TWO SEPARATE AND IT'D BE BINDING.
BUT THE COUNTY POLICY IS SOMETHING YOU GUYS HAVE ADOPTED THAT THE
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STATE STATUTE, SOMETHING THAT'S A SEPARATE AND IF IT SOME VIOLATION OF STATE STATUTE THAT WAY YOU WOULD BE THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE OF ATTORNEY GENERAL.SO WHAT ABOUT THE COUNTY POLICY? WELL, COUNTY POLICY'S A DIFFERENT ISSUE AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE SAYING.
IF YOU'RE VIOLATING THE COUNTY POLICY, THEN WOULD HAVE TO GO BACK TO WHAT THE RULES ARE FOR THE COUNTY.
I DON'T THINK THERE'S, IF YOU DO THIS, IT'S THIS NOT A PUT PRO QUO.
IT DOESN'T, IT SAYS IN THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE UNDER 2 62 THAT THE PURCHASING AGENTS WILL SET FORTH, UH, A POLICY TO BE, TO HELP SHOW AND GUIDE WHAT PROCEDURES NEED TO BE FOLLOWED.
AND, AND THERE MAY NOT BE A SPECIFIC QUESTION.
I'M JUST, EVERYTHING IS NOT PARENTED, EVERYTHING'S NOT, YOU KNOW, A SPECIFIC PUNISHMENT FOR THAT'S RIGHT.
SO IF WE HAVE ELECTED THAT, THAT SHOWS A PATTERN CONSISTENTLY IGNORES PERSONAL POLICY, WELL THAT'S A DIFFERENT THING THAT YOU JUST SAID.
AND SO THE BETTER THING INSTEAD OF HAVING IS KAREN SUGGESTED INCORRECT INFORMATION JUST BEING THROWN ABOUT.
I THINK IT'D BE BETTER TO SAY SPECIFICALLY A PATTERN REVIEWS TO SOMETHING DIFFERENT THAN WHAT YOU ORIGINALLY SAID.
SO I THINK IF CINDY CALLS AND MAKES AN APPOINTMENT, EITHER OR TWO LAWYERS THAT HANDLE CIVIL FROM YOUR OFFICE, WE'LL BE GLAD TO MEET AND IF YOU WANT THE PERSON AGENT INVOLVED OR NOT, HOWEVER YOU WANNA DO THAT, WE'LL MAKE SURE WE INVITE EVERYBODY SO WE CAN BE ABOVE BOARD TO BE TALKING ABOUT ALL AT THE SAME TIME.
WELL, I, I, THAT THAT'S WHAT I NEED SOME CLARIFICATION BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN TOLD, YOU KNOW, DIFFERENT THINGS FOR THE LAST THREE OR FOUR YEARS AND UM, BUT WE'RE ALWAYS AVAILABLE COMMISSION.
I KNOW WE'VE, SEVERAL TIMES WE'RE ALWAYS AVAILABLE.
ALL OF US ALWAYS GLAD TO MEET WITH US AND WE HAD MEETINGS AND ASSIST ANYBODY, NOTHING.
I MEAN I WAS GIVEN SOME STATE STATUTES THAT WERE NOT RELEVANT TO THE ITEMS WE TALKED ABOUT, BUT ANYWAY.
WE'LL, AND, AND I WOULD APPRECIATE MEETING MS. WILEY AS WELL.
IF, IF I'M AVAILABLE I'LL COME FOR SURE YOU, IF Y'ALL WILL JUST SET UP A MEETING WHEN Y'ALL, YOU, YOUR STAFF TO CALL THEM BECAUSE THAT PUTS IT ON YOU INSTEAD OF ON ME.
YOU GET CINDY TO CALL US AND WE'LL DEFINITELY SET IT UP AND WE, THE ONLY THING I'VE GOTTA DO BEFORE CHRISTMAS IS GO TO THE LECTURE DA CONFERENCE TOMORROW AND I'M HERE FOR THE REST THE DIRECTION.
ALRIGHT, WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE TABLE, UH, AT THE TABLE FROM COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS.
COMMISSIONER SHANE, THAT MOTION, DO WE HAVE FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
ALL WE'RE GLAD THIS MORNING TO, UH, HAVE OUR STATE SENATOR WITH US.
WE HAVE AN ADDENDUM THAT I FAILED MENTION EARLIER AT, AND, AND IT'LL BE TO, UH, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER A RESOLUTION FOR THE STATE OF TEXAS TO SECURE ITS ELECTRIC GRID FROM ET.
AND, UH, FEEL FREE TO I THINK PERMISSION.
I BELIEVE YOU HAVE AN ITEM, UH, IN YOUR, UH, PACKET, THE LAST ITEM OUT OR EMAILED.
THANK YOU COMMISSIONERS FOR, FOR ALLOWING YOU TO COME TO SPEAK.
I REALLY APPRECIATE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO WORK WITH YOU ON THIS AND APPRECIATE YOU TAKING UP SOME OF, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE MEETINGS WE'VE HAD.
THIS IS A, A, A FAIRLY SIGNIFICANT ITEM IN MY VIEW AND A NUMBER OF OTHERS.
IT, UH, BECAUSE THIS IS NO LONGER THE LEADER OF THE BEAVER WORLD THAT WE GREW UP IN, IT'S, UH, THE LEVEL OF VIOLENCE THAT'S OUT THERE AND THE THREATS AGAINST AMERICA AND OUR SOCIETY TODAY DEPENDS ON ELECTRICITY FAR MORE THAN WE'VE EVER IN THE PAST.
I CAN REMEMBER GROWING UP AND ELECTRICITY WAS KIND OF A LUXURY ITEM.
TODAY IS THE THIRD MOST IMPORTANT THING TO SUSTAINING LIFE.
THE ONLY TWO THINGS THAT MORE IMPORTANT ARE AIR AND WATER.
THERE ARE BE PEOPLE WHO LIVE LONGER WITHOUT FOOD THAN THEY WILL WITHOUT ELECTRICITY.
AND THE THREAT THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE, BOTH NA NATURALLY MANMADE, IS IT COULD TAKE OUT OUR ELECTRICAL SERVICE, PERMANENT, OUR TESTIMONY THAT WAS HELD LAST SESSION.
AND WE HEARD THE BILL FROM THE POWER COMPANIES, THEY, THEY INCURRED AND AGREED THAT, UH, IF ONE OF THESE EVENTS WERE TO OCCUR, THAT THEY WOULD BE UNABLE TO REPAIR AN ELECTRICAL SYSTEM.
AND FEDERAL GOVERNMENT HAS STUDIED THIS ISSUE A NUMBER OF TIMES, A NUMBER OF REPORTS OUT THERE, ALL VERY CONSISTENT.
AND THAT IS, IF AMERICAS WITHOUT ELECTRICITY FOR 11 MONTHS, WE LOSE 90% OF OUR POPULATION.
THAT'S ABOUT 300 MILLION PEOPLE.
UM, SO THE, THE ABILITY TO DO IT IS A ONE TIME EVENT THAT, UH, BY A HUGE SUN SPOT KNOWN
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AS AON MASS INJECTION.THAT HAPPENED IN THE PAST, UH, 1859.
IT FRIED OUR ELECT, OUR TELEGRAPH SYSTEM FROM COAST TO COAST, NEW EUROPE IN 1989.
IT KNOCKED OUT THE POWER IN THE EASTERN PART OF AK PART OF THE UNITED STATES.
AND, UH, NASA SAYS IT'S ABOUT 12% CHANCE FROM THE MANMADE.
IT, IT'S A ONE SMALL NUCLEAR WEAPON, DETONATED ABOUT 200 NAUTICAL MILES ABOVE THE CENTRAL PART OF THE UNITED STATES TO WIPE OUT, UH, ELECTRICAL POWER AND ANYTHING ELECTRONIC FROM COAST TO COAST.
THIS IS DOCUMENTED, WHICH IS THESE ARE ENGINEERING SCIENTIFIC FACTS.
THIS IS NOT SOMETHING LIKE GLOBAL WARMING WAS A LOT OF SPECULATION AND IT'S SOMETHING I HAVE TO KNOW A LITTLE BIT ABOUT BECAUSE MY EXPERIENCE WITH THIS BEGAN WHEN I WAS A CAPTAIN OF THE AIR FORCE AND I WAS IN CHARGE OF HARDENING OUR MAN MISSILE AGAINST A RUSSIAN THREAT THAT WAS, UH, THAT THEY USED THIS AS USED AS A WEAPON.
SO, UH, TODAY OUR MILITARY RECOGNIZES THAT THIS IS A THREAT.
MATTER OF FACT, OUR COMMAND STRUCTURE IS MOVING BACK INTO NORAD, INTO CHEYENNE MOUNTAIN.
THEY MOVED OUT ABOUT 20 YEARS AGO AND THE COLD WAR SAID, YOU KNOW, NO LONGER A REAL NEED FOR IT.
AND BESIDES THE RUSSIANS HAVE GOTTEN SO GOOD WITH THEIR, THEIR WEAPONS THAT THEY WOULDN'T SURVIVE A DIRECT HIT.
SO THEY MOVED OUT THIS PAST YEAR, THEY STARTED SPILLING CLOSE TO A BILLION DOLLARS FROM MOVE BACK INTO SH MOUNTAIN SPECIFICALLY BECAUSE OF THE THREAT.
UM, ON THE GOOD SIDE OF THIS IS THE ECONOMIC BENEFIT.
UH, THIS IS, TELL YOU THIS, THE REASON I'M TALKING ABOUT THIS IS TEXAS IS IN A UNIQUE POSITION BECAUSE TEXAS HAS ITS OWN ELECTRICAL GRID.
WE ARE DISCONNECTED FROM THE REST OF THE, THE, THE NATION EASTERN PART AND WESTERN.
WE'RE NOT UNDER FEDERAL CONTROL.
LITTLE BIT OF THE NORTHEAST PART OF TEXAS AND NORTHWEST PART IS STILL TIED WITH EASTERN WESTERN GRID, BUT TEXAS HAS ITS OWN GRID.
AND WHATEVER'S GOING TO BE DONE TO DETECT THE GRID, TEXAS CAN DO FOR ITSELF.
BUT THE ECONOMIC BENEFITS ARE HUGE.
TEXAS IS THE SECOND, HAS THE SECOND LARGEST NUMBER OF MILITARY PERSONNEL OF ANY STATE.
CALIFORNIA, CALIFORNIA HAS MORE AND IT CONTRIBUTES ABOUT $154 BILLION A YEAR AS OUR ECONOMY.
THEY USE THE SAME ELECTRIC, UH, COMMERCIAL POWER THAT WE ALL USE.
AND SO IF TEXAS WAS SECURING IT, GRID ITS GRID OR HAD A SECURE GRID, I DON'T THINK THE MILITARY WOULD EVEN CONSIDER MOVING INDIAN MILITARY OUT OF TEXAS.
MATTER OF FACT, THEY PROBABLY MOVED THE ASSETS HERE AND THE ECONOMICS OF IT.
WE SPEND A LOT OF MONEY THERE TRYING TO DRIVE BUSINESS TO COME TO TEXAS, UH, WITH OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT FUNDS.
THIS WOULD BE ONE OF THE BIGGEST ECONOMIC, UH, UH, OPPORTUNITIES FOR BUSINESSES.
AND OTHER STATES ARE STARTING TO GET IT NOW VIRGINIA AND FLORIDA, PARTICULARLY VIRGINIA, HAS A DEMOCRATIC GOVERNOR AND A VERY COOPERATIVE POWER COMPANY, AND THEY'RE WORKING TOGETHER TO MAKE VIRGINIA HAVE A SECURE ELECTRICAL SYSTEM AS BEST AS THEY CAN.
BUT WHAT A, WHAT A WHAT A MOTTO OR A SLOGAN WOULD BE IF YOU HANG UP A SIGN THAT SAYS WHEN THE LIGHTS GO OUT, WE'LL BE BACK ON THE TEXAS FIRST.
AND SO THAT'S WHY I'VE TAKEN THE INITIATIVE THAT THIS BILL, I HAVE A, A NUMBER OF OTHER SENATORS, UH, THAT ARE GONNA SIGN ON THE BILL AS A NUMBER OF HOUSE MEMBERS WITH A SIMILAR BILL.
THIS IS ONE THAT WE'RE STRUCTURING IT SO THAT, UH, IT WOULD BE PART OF THE POWER POWER COMPANY'S UH, RIGHT STRUCTURE.
AND THE ESTIMATED COST IS, IT'S JUST A FEW DOLLARS PER METER.
IT'S NOT AN EXPENSIVE ITEM AND IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT A BUDGET BREAKER, BUT IT'S ONE THAT AN INSURANCE POLICY OF SOMETHING THAT COULD HAPPEN EITHER NATURALLY OR ATE.
AND THIS RESOLUTION JUST SIMPLY IS TO HELP ALL THE LEADERS IN DOWN IN AUSTIN TO UNDERSTAND THAT THE PEOPLE OF TEXAS RECOGNIZE THIS ISSUE AND WOULD LIKE THE STATE TO TAKE WHATEVER STEPS NECESSARY TO PROTECT THE ENTIRE STATE OF TAXES THAT HAPPENED JUST OUTTA GRID.
HOW DO YOU DEPEND AGAINST, AGAINST THAT? UH, IT'S, WELL IT'S, IT'S NOT DIFFICULT.
A MATTER OF FACT, THERE ARE OTHER COUNTRIES, CHINA HAS ALREADY SECURED A SIGNIFICANT PART OF ITS GRID ACROSS FROM TAIWAN.
SOUTH KOREA HAS ARAB IMMIGRANTS AND ISRAEL ARE, ARE IS IN THE PROCESS OF, UH, SECURING IT.
MATTER OF FACT, OUR LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR WAS IN ISRAEL THIS SUMMER.
HE GOT A BRIEFING ON WHAT THEY'RE DOING.
UM, THERE ARE A NUMBER OF S THAT PROVIDE THE EQUIPMENT.
IT'S BASICALLY LIKE SOPHISTICATED
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SEARCH DETECTORS.AND YOU, YOU'RE PUTTING SOMETHING BETWEEN YOU AND
IT'S A DC CURRENT HAS A DC CURRENT THAT AFFECTS AN AC OPERATION.
SO YOU CAN HAVE FILTERS, UH, WHAT THEY CALL NEUTRAL CAPACITORS.
MATTER OF FACT, UH, ONE OF THE POWER COMPANY IN TEXAS CENTER POINT DOWN IN HOUSTON HAS ALREADY BUILT A SECURE, UH, SCADA THAT'S A CONTROL CENTER.
THEY HAVE A MILITARY GRADE, UH, CONTROL CENTER DOWN THERE.
AND THEY ESTIMATED WHEN THEY BUILT IT NEW, IT ADDED ABOUT 5% TO THE COST TO MAKE IT SECURE.
SO IT CAN BE, WE KNOW WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE.
NOBODY ELSE, NO, BUT THIS HAS TO START AT THE TOP BECAUSE LIKE AT THE LOCAL LEVEL, WE'RE DOING GOOD.
THIS CANNOT, YOU KNOW, TRINITY VALLEY BY ITSELF CAN'T DO IT, WOULDN'T THE REST OF IT.
THEY JUST NEED TO HAVE STATE COVERAGE SO THAT THE ADDED COST OF IT BECOMES PART OF THE TRUCTURE AND IT, AND IT'S LIKE EVERYTHING ELSE WE DO, IT GETS PAID FOR BY THE CITIZENS.
I MEAN, THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS STATE MONEY, COUNTY MONEY, FEDERAL MONEY.
IT ALL COMES FROM THE SAME POCKET.
IT'LL COME FROM, IT IS THE MOST ECONOMICAL WAY TO DO IT IS TO HAVE THE POWER.
AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE JUST THE DOOR FOR THEM TO TAKE THE LEAD TO DO WHAT THEY KNOW THEY SHOULD BE DOING.
I REALLY APPRECIATE YOU TAKING THE CHARGE OF THIS ISSUE AND THANK GOD WE HAVE SOMEONE WITH YOUR KNOWLEDGE AND BACKGROUND THAT'S, UH, YOU KNOW, TRYING TO, TRYING TO GET THIS.
I MEAN IT'S, I FIND IT, I FIND IT ABSOLUTELY AMAZING BECAUSE THIS IS WHAT I DID AND I SHOULD HAVE NEVER BEEN THERE DOING IT IN, IN THE FIRST PLACE.
BUT TO HAVE THE RESPONSIBILITY TO COME UP WITH A DESIGN SYSTEM AND DEVELOP TO MD DETECTORS, UH, FOR THE, FOR THE MILITARY SEVERAL YEARS AGO.
AND YOU HAVE OTHER, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.
I BELIEVE WHILE WE'RE ON THE, WE, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND DISCUSS, UH, UH, KAREN, YOU MENTIONED, UH, DISCUSS THE FEDERAL COURT READING CIVIL ACTION NUMBER 4 1 6 7 JUST CAME OUT LAST WEEK REGARDING THE FINAL THAT CONCLUDE ALL OF THE DISCUSSION, UH, ON THE CONSENT THAT THANK YOU.
WHAT BRINGING, UM, I TO YOUR ATTENTION IS JUST, UM, A RECENT COURT RULING AND, AND THE REASON WE'RE BRINGING IT TO YOUR ATTENTION, THERE'S ONLY NO ACTION REQUIRED.
WE JUST WANT THE COURT TO BE AWARE OF IT BECAUSE IT WAS, UM, AN ISSUE WHEN WE WERE GOING THROUGH THE BUDGET PROCESS.
AND WE ALSO WANT YOU TO BE AWARE OF, UM, THE LATEST RULES AND SO THAT YOU'RE UP TO DATE ON THE STATUS OF DIFFERENT ISSUES JUST IN CASE YOUR CONSTITUENTS ASK YOU ALL OR, OR YOU DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
BUT, UM, BASICALLY TUESDAY EVENING, NOVEMBER 22ND, YOU MAY HAVE SEEN THIS ON THE NEWS, IT CAME OUT IN NEWS SOME ON TUESDAY, NOVEMBER 23RD.
BUT BASICALLY, UM, WHAT HAD HAPPENED IS, AS YOU MAY REMEMBER LAST YEAR, I GUESS THIS YEAR, REALLY, PRESIDENT OBAMA, UM, BASICALLY DIRECTED, UM, THE SECRETARY OF LABOR TO ISSUE WHAT'S CALLED A FINAL RULE IN WHICH THEY CHANGED THE MINIMUM SALARY OF AN EXTENDED ON LIKE THE 23 6 TO AROUND THE 47.
AND THAT HAD A BIG IMPACT ON OUR BUDGET BECAUSE WE, IT WAS TO BE EFFECTIVE THAT RULE, THE FINAL RULE ON DECEMBER THE FIRST OF THOUSAND 16.
AND SO WE HAD AN IMPACT ON OUR COUNTY, UM, REGARD SALARIES AND UM, AND, AND RAISES THAT, THAT PEOPLE WERE GETTING.
AND SO, UM, WHAT TOOK PLACE IS SEVERAL ENTITIES, THE STATE OF NEVADA, QUITE A FEW GOVERNMENTAL ENTITIES AND PRIVATE COMPANIES, UM, SUED BASICALLY,
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UM, THE, THEY BASICALLY SUED THE UNITED STATES DEPARTMENT OF LABOR AND THEY, UM, BROUGHT AN ACTION BASICALLY STATING THAT IT WAS UNCONSTITUTIONAL AND IT WAS OUTSIDE THE REALM OF THAT AGENCY'S POWER.AND SO THE CASE IS IN THE UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT FOR THE EASTERN DISTRICT OF TEXAS AT THE SHERMAN DIVISION.
AND IT'S UNUSUAL THAT THE COURT ACTUALLY ON TUESDAY ISSUED A M ORDER.
WE HAVE THAT IF ANYBODY WANTS, MAKE A COPY THAT GET THAT FOR THEM.
BUT BASICALLY WHAT THEY SAID IS THAT THEY WERE ISSUING AN EMERGENCY PRELIMINARY INJUNCTION TO PRESENT TO PREVENT THAT FINAL RULE FROM GOING INTO EFFECT ON DECEMBER 1ST, 16.
AND UM, AND IT HAS NATION HAS A NATIONWIDE IMPACT IS TO PREVENT IT FROM GOING INTO EFFECT IN ANY PLACE IN, IN THE UNITED STATES.
AND I'M NOT GOING TO GO THROUGH ALL OF THE CONSTITUTIONAL ANALYSIS OF THE CASE WENT THROUGH ALL, BUT UM, BUT BASICALLY THE BOTTOM LINE IN THE RULING WAS THAT THE AGENCY OVERSTEPPED ITS BROWNS AND ITS JURISDICTION THAT THE CONGRESSIONAL INTENT UNDER THE FAIR LABOR STANDARDS ACT, WHERE YOU HAVE THE SALARY REQUIREMENT, THE FACT THAT THE EMPLOYEE MUST BE ON THE SALARY AND THE DUTIES TEST, ALL THREE OF THOSE ARE, ARE EQUAL IN DETERMINING WHETHER AN EMPLOYEE HAS EXEMPT OR NON-EXEMPT STATUS.
AND WHAT THE COURT SAID IN GRANTING THIS PRELIMINARY INJUNCTION IS THAT BY TAKING THE, UM, THE MINIMUM SALARY AND BUMPING IT UP TO ALMOST AROUND $47,000, THAT IT CHANGED THE REQUIREMENTS AND BASICALLY IT BECAME MORE OF A SALARY REQUIREMENT INSTEAD OF ALL THREE OF THOSE REQUIREMENTS ACTED TOGETHER.
AND THE COURT FOUND THAT THE, UM, THAT THE DEPARTMENT OF LABOR HAD CLEARLY OVERSTEPPED ITS GROUNDS BECAUSE THE CONGRESSIONAL INTENT THAT IT SET FORTH FOR THE FLSA WAS CLEAR.
SO THERE WAS NO REASON FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF LABOR TO CHANGE THAT INTERPRETATION OR MAKE THAT TYPE OF CHANGE.
SO RIGHT NOW, AS IT STANDS, UM, THAT FINAL RULE WILL NOT GO INTO EFFECT ON DECEMBER 1ST, 2016 AND UNTIL THE LITIGATION IS FINAL, WHICH MAY TAKE YOU ANOTHER YEAR OR SO, WE WON'T REALLY KNOW THE RESULTS, BUT WE JUST WANTED THE COUNTY TO BE AWARE OF IT BECAUSE IT WAS SUCH, UM, A BIG ISSUE.
WE'RE NOT ASK, ASKING ANYBODY TAKE ANY ACTION OR, OR UNDO OR REDO ANYTHING IN REGARDS TO IT.
BUT WE DO WANT YOU ALL TO BE AWARE OF THAT LITIGATION, OF THAT COURT ORDER.
AND, UM,
I'M SURE THAT'S WHAT YOU TOLD HIM WHEN YOU STOOD UP AND YOU KNOW, WE HAD OUR PERSONAL OPINIONS AT THE TIME, WHAT WE THOUGHT WAS AN OVERREACH AND IT'S BEEN INDICATED THAT HE IS.
AND UH, THAT'S, THAT'S PRETTY, I MEAN THAT'S PRETTY SUBSTANTIAL.
THIS GOES ACROSS THE WHOLE COUNTRY AND, AND BASICALLY WE SAW IT, OUR OFFICE SAW THE NEWS EARLY MORNING ON OUR IPADS AND WE WENT AND FOUND THE ORDER AND DID THE RESEARCH WHICH BRING YOU ALL THAT INFORMATION BECAUSE YOU KNOW, IT'S IMPORTANT JUST TO UPDATED TO KNOW WHAT'S, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S, WHAT'S GOING ON, WHAT'S THE STATUS, THAT RIGHT.
ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? THIS IS AN INFORMATIONAL ITEM AND I'M SURE WE'LL IN THE NEXT FEW MONTHS YOU'LL HEAR MORE ABOUT IT.
BUDGET, THIS IS GONNA COME UP IN THE BUDGET.
THIS IS A HUGE BUDGET ISSUE THAT'S GONNA AFFECT EVERYBODY IN THE COUNTY.
WE'RE NOT ASKING FOR ANY ACTION.
WE WANT YOU GUYS TO STUDY IT AND UNDERSTAND WE GET ADVICE FROM YOUR OTHER FOLKS FROM THE, BASICALLY IT MATTER JUST COULDN'T PLAIN.
THANK YOU VERY KEEPING US, KEEPING US INFORMED.
NUMBER 10 IS TO DISCUSS, CONSIDER A RESOLUTION OF THE COUNTY TEXAS AUTHORIZING SUBMISSION OF A TEXAS COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT PROGRAM APPLICATION.
THE TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF AGRICUL FOR THE DEVELOPMENT FUND AND AUTHORIZING THE COUNTY JUDGE TO ACT AS COUNTY'S OFFICER.
ALL MATTERS RELATED TO TEXAS DEVELOPMENT PROGRAM.
PAM HAS BEEN WORKING FOR THIS AND HAVE REPRESENTATIVE
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FLOYD RICHARDSON.I HOPE THAT YOU DON HAVE A GOOD THANKSGIVING.
UM, HE WANTED TO BRING THIS TO YOU FOR RESOLUTION AND THEN ALSO SOME EXPLANATION ON THE FOR, WELL THE RESOLUTION PRETTY SIMPLE.
IT SAYS THAT YOU'RE GONNA APPLY FOR 75,000 IN GRANT FUNDS AND, AND Y'ALL GONNA COMMIT 13 7 50.
AND I UNDERSTAND YOU'RE GONNA DO THAT, DO OWN WORK.
SO BASICALLY YOU FOR MATERIAL, YOU'RE GONNA REIMBURSED 1350, YOUR EMPLOYEES ACTUALLY GOING OUT AND DOING WORK.
SO REALLY YOU'RE GONNA BE ABLE TO PAY A LOT MORE.
SO THAT'S WHAT THE RESOLUTION DOES.
RED TAPE, UH, IT TIES UP ALL, IT SETS UP A GRIEVANCE PROCEDURE IN CASE ANYBODY HAS AN ISSUE.
IT SAYS THAT WE'RE NOT GONNA DISCRIMINATE.
AND THAT PRACTICE IS, IT SAYS THAT'S WHAT THEY ASKED YOU TO DO AND UH, IT REALLY IS.
IT, IT IS JUST A COMPLIANCE PACKAGE.
LOT BETTER REQUIREMENTS THAT GO ALONG MONEY FROM MONTH.
OKAY, WHAT KIND OF, IS THIS FOR ROADS OR IS THIS HOUSES? YES SIR.
IT'S, IT'S GONNA BE FOR ROADS.
AND THIS IS THE GRANT WE TALKED ABOUT WITH THE 51% LOW INCOME THAT WOULD BE ON THAT ROADWAY THAT WE WOULD GO IN AND BE ABLE TO DO THE ROAD WORK FOR THAT.
SO BASICALLY EACH, EACH PRECINCT ABOUT 65,000 OF THESE? WELL, NO, IT'S ONLY BASED ON CERTAIN ROADS.
SO WE HAVE A NOW LOOK AT AND THERE'S LOW, THERE'S NOT AS MANY LOW INCOME ROADS IN SOME OF THE PRECINCTS AS THERE ARE IN OTHERS.
SO THERE'S ALL KINDS OF WAYS YOU CAN WORK THIS OUT.
WE, WE'VE DONE THIS PROJECT WITH OTHER COUNTIES AND SOMETIMES THE COMMISSIONERS WILL GET TOGETHER AND SAY OKAY, WE PLAY POINT IS YOU GONNA GET SOME POINT? IS YOU GONNA GET SOME DONE GONNA BE DONE? FEDERAL FUNDS GONNA GET BACK THE TIME THAT YOU PUT IN PRETTY GOOD.
NO ONES THAT TO TALK ABOUT THAT PART.
THERE JUST THREE WE'RE THE ONES IN THE LIBRARY AND IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THIS IS THE FIRST TIME THAT WE HAVE ASSISTED UH, LIKE WATER SUPPLY CORPORATION.
RIGHT? WATER SUPPLY CORPORATION TO A GRANT.
THIS IS THE FIRST TIME WE'VE ACTUALLY GONE AFTER A GRANT OURSELVES.
YOU WEREN'T REALLY ELIGIBLE ACCORDING TO THE NORTH TEXAS COUNCIL DIS.
AND SO THEY CHANGED THEIR RULES TWO YEARS AGO.
THAT'S WHY NO ONE EVER CAME TO YOU AND SAID, HEY, YOU CAN GO PICK BROTHER BECAUSE IF YOU APPLIED YOU DESTROY SO YOU CAN APPLY FOR THE CITY.
WELL AND A LOT OF IT WAS ALSO, UM, LIKE THE CITY OF ROSS, ROSS WAS NOT ELIGIBLE FOR YEARS BECAUSE WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY DRAIN THAT WAS ALREADY PIPE OR THINGS LIKE THAT IN OUR COMMUNITY FOR THE WATER, WATER SYSTEM.
SO AS SOON AS THEY CHANGE THAT RULE TO HAVE CONSTRUCTION.
ALRIGHT, QUESTIONS FROM ANYBODY? I MAKE A MOTION.
I HAVE A MOTION MR. ALLEN SECOND TO APPROVE THIS RESOLUTION AND UH, THE OTHER DOCUMENTS THAT ARE INCLUDED FOR THAT.
UH, DO YOU HAVE ANY, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ALL IN FAVOR SAY A THOSE PODIUM.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR BEING HERE AND KEEPING US INFORMED ON THIS, THIS OPPORTUNITY.
AND UH, ITEM NUMBER 11 IS, UH, RELATED TO THIS DISCUSSED AND APPROVE THE UH, AND SIGN THE COST OF COUNTY CITIZEN PARTICIPATION PLAN FOR THE TEXAS COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT PROGRAM.
REGARDING THAT, MR. PHILLIPS SECOND ALLEN DISCUSS
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12 IS TO DISCUSS, CONSIDER IMPLEMENTING A COUNTYWIDE VEHICLE, MAINTENANCE POLE CREATING POSITION AND TAKE ACTION.I DID THIS A COUPLE TIMES, NOW WE DON'T HAVE THE POSITION FOR IT AND UH, DISCUSS COMMISSIONER ABOUT IT AND UH, WE DECIDED THAT WE COULD PROBABLY MAYBE DONATE SOME MONEY FROM ONE OF OUR PRECINCTS.
I KNOW THAT I'VE LOT MECHANIC AND PRECINCT, THEIR MECHANIC.
SO THIS POSITION MAINTENANCE FACILITY DIRECTOR IN CHARGE OF IT, HE LOCATED AT THE SOUTH AND LOCATED AT THE SOUTH CAMPUS.
WE GOT A LIFT AND HE BEEN DOING SOME OTHER THINGS.
I THINK HE'S HOOKED UP STEP INTO THIS BOBBY, BUT TRYING TO SHOW YOU DISCUSSING HOW MANY PLACES, YOU KNOW, FROM THE DA'S OFFICE TO ALL OF OUR PICKUPS IN THE COUNTY OF VEHICLE GOING GET OIL CHANGES EVERYWHERE AND A MUCH IT'S COSTING US AND I THINK WE CAN MOST OF OUR MONEY BACK ALL, WE DON'T ANY VEHICLE.
I DON'T, I'M NOT TRYING TO EXCLUDE YOU IT, I KNOW HE SERVICES, BUT SOME HE HAS ALSO GOES TO OIL CHANGE PLACES.
SO THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH ALL OUT A WE YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS? UM, ONE COMMENT ABOUT, ABOUT THE LIFT OVER THERE.
SHAKING, YEAH, THAT'S, THAT'S A, THAT'S A PRETTY OLD, SO 1986 LIFT I CAN TELL YOU IS TRUCK NEED TWO FOR ABOUT 25 OR LESS.
SO SINCE THIS WAS BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION, WHAT I'VE BEEN DOING IS I'VE BEEN TRYING TO LOOK AT WAYS TO CONVERT THE SALLY PORT OUT THERE JAIL INTO A FACILITY WHERE WE COULD VEHICLES.
UM, WE'VE ALREADY ALREADY CHANGED THE LIGHTING AND THE SALLY PORT, WE PUT NEW LIGHTING IN.
UH, WE DO HAVE AN AIR COMPRESSION THAT'S CURRENTLY OUT THERE.
UM, DOING MINOR STUFF WOULD BE REALLY EASY.
OIL CHANGES, TRANSMISSION FLUSH, YOU KNOW, STUFF LIKE THAT.
BRAKES, UH, BRAKES, UM, ROTATE TIRES, YOU KNOW THAT.
AND IF, IF A TRANSMISSION WAS OUT OR SOMETHING, WE COULD PROBABLY PULL THAT TRANSMISSION, SEND IT OUT, HAVE IT PREPARED AND PUT IT BACK IN.
YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? STUFF LIKE THAT.
UM, I DID GET A QUOTE, UH, I WANTED RECEIVE ONE THIS TO UH, PUT AN ING ON THE BACKSIDE OF THAT COURT BACK THERE WHERE, YOU KNOW, CURRENTLY, UH, THE JAIL PERSONNEL, THEY HAD LAWN MOWERS AND STUFF IN ONE OF THEM.
UM, WE WOULD ALSO NEED THAT REMOVED.
SO WE'LL HAVE BOTH ACCESS AND BOTH OF THOSE.
UM, BUT THE OFF THE CART ON THE BACKSIDE WOULD BE FOR, YOU KNOW, VEHICLES THAT WERE COMING IN, YOU KNOW, WE'D HAVE ADDITIONAL SPACE TO WORK ON, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? UH, IT WOULDN'T BE CLOSED IN, IT WOULD JUST BE IN BY CARPORT, UH, AT THIS MOMENT.
SO WE'VE, WE'VE DONE SOME THINGS TO START OUR OPERATION ON THAT, BUT THE ANTICIPATION THAT THIS WAS COMING, SO, UH, WE CAN DO IT.
THAT'S NOT, IT'S NOT A PROBLEM.
YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A, A NEW WORK ORDER SYSTEM.
WE HAVE, WE'LL TRACK ALL OF THIS, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? EVERY TIME YOU, YOU KNOW, THEY ACTUALLY SEND OUT EMAILS TO YOU GUYS OR WHOEVER YOU WANT TO GO TO SAYING HEY, THIS VEHICLE, THIS DUDE FOR MAINTENANCE, YOU KNOW, IT NEEDS TO COME IN AND WE'LL GIVE YOU A SCHEDULED TIME FOR YOU TO BRING IT IN, DROP IT OFF, WE'LL THE ON IT AND SEND IT BACK IN IN POSSIBLY THE FUTURE.
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THEY PUT TRACTORS ON ALL THE VEHICLES AND IT REPORTS EXCESSIVE SPEEDING, EXCESSIVE BRAKING, EXCESSIVE ACCELERATION AND IT'S VERY CHEAP.I MEAN IT'S JUST A FEW DOLLARS A MONTH AND I THINK THAT'D A, TO GET THESE VEHICLES, I THINK IT WOULD SAVE ON YOU PROBABLY TIRES, BRAKES, FUEL AND IT WOULD GIVE EVERY DEPARTMENT, YOU KNOW, IT COULD, THE REPORT COULD COME TO YOUR DEPARTMENT AS WELL AS THE DEPARTMENT VEHICLE.
SO THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING TO LOOK, IT LOOKS LIKE SYSTEM.
WE USE THAT AT THE WATER COMPANY.
BUT YOU GOTTA HAVE, IT'LL, IT'LL SHOW YOU, YOU KNOW, EXCESSIVE LOT, ESPECIALLY THE REPORT BACK.
UH, THIS IS THE REASON THAT I PUSHED TO GET THIS UH, POLICY ADOPTED BACK IN UH JULY.
KEEP UP WITH OUR VEHICLE MAINTENANCE, GET A HANDLE ON ALL THAT.
AND YET WE PUT WE'RE TODAY I APPRECIATE YOU STEPPING UP SLATE, MOVE.
JUST LIKE PERSON AGENT IN DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS THAT WE'VE DONE, WE HAVE IMPROVED OUR IMAGE WITH THE, OKAY SO THE MOTION OR THE AGENDA ITEM, WE TALK ABOUT CREATING THIS AND THAT BE THIS.
KAREN WOULD DO A LINE ITEM TRANSFER.
I MEAN THERE THERE, THERE'S MORE TO THIS THAN JUST MAKING A POSITION, RIGHT? RIGHT.
I HAVE TO SET UP LINES TO TRANSFER FROM Y'ALL SCHOOL BUDGETS.
I NEED AN IDEA OF WHAT WE'RE GONNA PAY TO DO SO I CAN UH, THAT'S WHERE WORK ALL THE BENEFITS AND STUFF OUT.
NO, I'VE GOT LIABILITY INSURANCE WORK.
WELL YEAH, I'VE GOTTA WORK ON THAT TOO.
WE NEED LIST WHAT HE EXACTLY NEEDS AND SO WE CAN GET THAT FIGURE SO WE CAN PROVIDE IT UP IF EVERYBODY'S AGREEABLE TO, WE'LL PAY FOR THIS POSITION IN THE FUTURE HOPING THAT NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET COME BACK TO DENTAL FUND.
KAREN ALSO MENTIONED MAYBE SOMETHING ABOUT DOING A LITTLE RESEARCH ON THE ROAD BRIDGE FUND AND SEEING HOW WE CAN TRANSFER THOSE FUNDS IF IT'S NOT IN THE DEPARTMENT.
THAT'S BECAUSE I THINK THE MAINTENANCE DEPARTMENT'S PAID FOR OUR GENERAL FUND, RIGHT? YES.
IT'S SO IF WE TRANSFER SALARY FROM ROAD AND BRIDGE BUT SPECIALIZED TAX FUND, WE JUST GOTTA DO A LITTLE BIT OF RESEARCH ON WHETHER OR NOT THAT'S POSSIBLE.
I KNOW WE DID, WE DID TRANSFER MONEY TO PURCHASE THE LAND WHEN WE BOUGHT IT OFF FOR THEM.
BUT THIS PERSON'S KIND OF A QUAI.
THEY'RE SO MAYBE WE COULD DO HALF, HALF.
I DON'T, THERE'S GOTTA BE SOMETHING SO KIND IN MIDDLE GROUND THEY COME UP WITH MAYBE LOOK THE BUDGET.
OH OKAY Y'ALL, Y'ALL NEED TO UNDERSTAND HOW YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO DO THIS NOW.
ALL THE MAINTENANCE AND ALL THE REPAIRS ARE IN THE DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS BUDGETS.
I HAVE TO SET THIS UP SEPARATE SO THAT THOSE DEPARTMENTS CAN BE CHARGED FOR THIS SERVICE.
YOU KNOW, I GOT MY OIL CHANGED AND I GOT MY TIRE ROTATED AND HE HAS TO HAVE THE SOFTWARE THAT'S GONNA GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF WHAT THAT COST AND YOU POSSIBLY THEY DON'T DO.
GONNA RUN INTO A A FUND THAT'S GOING TO BE RUNNING IN THE DEFICIT BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT CHARGING ENOUGH TO COVER THEIR COSTS AND THE EXPENSES OF HAVING
THERE'S JUST A LITTLE BIT MORE TO IT.
IT'S PROBABLY A VERY GOOD IDEA.
LIKE YOU SAID SAVE MONEY, BUT YOU GOTTA STRUCTURE IT RIGHT TO MAKE IT WORK.
FOR INSTANCE, AT A CITY WITH LESS THAN A HUNDRED
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EMPLOYEES, WE HAD THREE MECHANICS IN THAT DEPARTMENT AND THEIR SOFTWARE WASN'T SET UP WITH THE RIGHT RATE CHARGES AND THAT FUND ALWAYS RAN IN A DEFICIT 'CAUSE THEY DIDN'T COVER THE COST OF THE EMPLOYEES, THE BENEFITS AND ALL THE EXTRA INSURANCES AND ALL THAT STUFF.SO IT'S SOMETHING THAT PROBABLY Y'ALL NEED TO MAYBE HAVE A WORKSHOP AND GET ALL THE IDEAS TOGETHER AND WHAT WE NEED TO DO AND SOMEBODY CAN GIVE YOU THE NUMBERS FOR SALARY AND STUFF LIKE THAT AND I CAN LOOK IT UP, BUT PROBABLY T NEEDS TO BE ASKED THE QUESTION IF WE'RE GONNA DO THAT AS A MECHANICS DEPARTMENT.
IS THERE, LIKE JUDGE WILEY SAID, IS THERE EXTRA LIABILITY INSURANCE AND STUFF THAT WE NEED TO HAVE TO PROTECT THAT? THOSE EMPLOYEES? PARDON ME? YEAH.
I UNDERSTAND, BUT YOU'RE ASKING ABOUT SOMETHING DIFFERENT.
Y'ALL CAN DO WHAT YOU NEED, WHAT YOU WANT.
I DIDN'T MEAN TO THROW A GRUNT.
NO, A MONKEY WRENCH IN THE DEAL.
I JUST WANT YOU TO UNDERSTAND I'VE DONE THIS BEFORE AND I KNOW HOW COMPLICATED IT CAN GET.
SO WE NEED TO FIGURE IT OUT AND THE RIGHT WAY WORKS.
WHAT THIS WILL DO WOULD JUST GIVE THE EMPHASIS TO GET IT STARTED.
SO, SO I HAVE A MOTION CONCERNING THIS ITEM.
I HAVE A MOTION COMMISSIONER ALLEN SECOND MOTION IS AS IS LISTED HERE ON THE, UH, AGENDA TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER IMPLEMENTING A COUNTYWIDE VEHICLE MAINTENANCE PROGRAM, CREATING A MECHANIC POSITION AND TAKE ACTION IF NEEDED.
AND UH, SO I THAT'S PRETTY BROAD, BUT I THINK THE IDEA IS THAT JUST TO GET US SOMETHING MOVE FORWARD, WE DON'T GET WE DISCUSSING THIS.
I GUESS KAREN'S POINT IS HOW, WHAT FUNDS ARE YOU GONNA USE TO HIRE? YEAH, THAT'S FINE.
WE DO THAT, BUT WE SAY MONEY IF WE GONNA DO IT.
WHETHER THE MECHANIC WORKS FOR ME OR WORKS FOR JACKIE OR I KNOW HOW STUFF WORKS AND Y'ALL PROVE SOMETHING AND BEFORE WE GET THE MONEY AND GET EVERYTHING SET UP, SOMEBODY'S HIRED, ALRIGHT, PUT AND PUT ON PAYROLL AND WE CAN'T KEEP DOING THAT.
WE'VE GOTTA HAVE A PLAN AND GOTTA, WELL WE AGREE WITH THAT.
THAT'S WHY WE NEED TO CREATE THE POSITION SO WE CAN, YOU WON'T ME TO PUT IN THE POSITION.
HOW MUCH DO YOU WANT ME TO PUT IN THE POSITION? 'CAUSE I'VE GOTTA WORK ALL THOSE NUMBERS UP.
WE'LL DO THAT IN THE WORKSHOP WE PREPOSITION TODAY.
WHAT DO YOU WANNA PUT? A HUNDRED DOLLARS? SURE.
KAREN, DID YOU HAVE A, UH, QUESTION? WHAT'S, WHY DON'T WE RESTRUCTURE THE MOTION A LITTLE BIT? THAT'D BE A LOT BETTER.
WHY DON'T WE AGREE TO DO A WORKSHOP TO WORK THROUGH THESE ISSUES AND THEN, AND THEN WHEN YOU HAVE THESE QUESTIONS ANSWERED, THESE ISSUES, MS. HALL THEN DO A MOTION TO ACCEPT AND APPROVE.
BUT I JUST THINK THAT YOU NEED SOME ISSUES TO WORK THROUGH BECAUSE I'M NOT, I'M NOT CLEAR WHAT YOUR MOTION LEMME MY MOTION AND I APPRECIATE WHAT COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS IS SAYING HE DOESN'T WANT US JUST TO NOT DO ANYTHING.
BUT I THINK CONVERSELY, YOU DON'T WANT TO SET UP SOMETHING THAT THEN WE HAVE TO GO BACK AND BACK LOAD OR WHATEVER EXPRESSION YOU WANT TO USE.
SO IF YOU MAKE A MOTION, I MEAN TO EITHER, UM, SET UP A FRAMEWORK FOR THIS AND THEN PUT IT ON, UH, Y'ALL CAN WORK, WORKSHOP IT, AND YOU COME OUTTA THE WORKSHOP WITH THE NUMBERS AND EVERYTHING, THEN IT'S DONE.
I MEAN, I JUST DON'T WANT Y'ALL TO GET BOUND BY IT.
IF YOU DECIDE THAT THAT'S NOT WHAT YOU WANT, YOU DON'T WANNA TAKE AN ACTION AND HAVE A MOTION, HAVE A ORDER RIGHT THERE, AND THEN YOU DON'T FOLLOW THROUGH.
OR KAREN IS MORE WORRIED ABOUT YOU FOLLOW THROUGH, YOU HAVE A PERSON HIRED, YOU DON'T HAVE, WELL I THINK YOU PROBABLY HAVE THE MONEY IT SOUNDS LIKE IN YOUR BUDGET, BUT WE WANNA MAKE SURE WE GET THE MONEY SO THAT IT DOESN'T IMPACT THE CITIZENS IN WORK.
AND I DON'T THINK IT'LL, IT'S NOT TALKING MONEY.
I KNOW THAT'S WHAT YOUR BIGGEST CONCERN IS.
I MEAN, THIS, FOR EXAMPLE, ARE YOU GONNA ALLOW THAT PERSON TO HAVE MONEY IN THE BUDGET TO GO BUY CERTAIN FILTERS, CERTAIN KINDS OF OIL, OR THEY HAVE TO, YOU BRING IT IN AND THEY HAVE TO LEAVE AND GO TO THE PARTS HOUSE AND BUY IT LIKE THAT? I'M, YOU KNOW, THERE'S, THERE'S A CHANCE OF HAVING AN INVENTORY.
SO THAT'S WHY I'M THINKING THAT WAY BECAUSE WE HAD A BUNCH OF STUFF LIKE THAT
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AND THEY WIND UP TRADING IT IN AND GETTING NEW VEHICLES.LIKE WE MIGHT HAVE HAD TIRES FOR TAHOES OR FILTERS FOR TIRE TAHOES, BUT THEN THEY QUIT AND THEY WENT TO CROWN BIG.
ALL THOSE WERE NO GOOD AND WE COULDN'T TAKE THEM BACK BECAUSE IT SET THERE TOO LONG.
AND JUST SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT HOW WE'RE GONNA STRUCTURE IT.
ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT BEING EXPENSIVE FOR ALL THE COUNTY VEHICLES EXCLUDING THE LAW ENFORCEMENT SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT OR JUST Y'ALL'S VEHICLES, WHICH WOULD MEAN YOU WOULD'VE OBVIOUSLY NO CONTROL OF THAT.
WHATCHA THINKING OF ALL EXCEPT FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT AT THE MOMENT DOWN THE ROAD, WE HOPE THAT WOULD WORK ALL THAT TOGETHER FOR THE WHOLE COUNTY.
WHETHER IT'S ONE COUNTY SOMEWHERE OR SO.
WE, TO GET FOR TWO YEARS TO GET IT STARTED.
IT SEEMS LIKE NOBODY'S DOING ANYTHING.
YOU KNOW Y'S NO, I I'M NOT ARGUING THEN.
I'M JUST SAYING YOUR MOTION, YOUR MOTION, YOU'RE PUTTING THE CART BEFORE THE HORSE, WHICH WE NEED TO GET THIS WORK THROUGH IT SO THAT IT'S DONE THE WAY YOU CAN WANT IT.
WELL, WE CAN'T KEEP, WELL YOU GUYS CAN DO THIS 50 DIFFERENT PLACES ON OVER TOWN.
YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S NOT SERVING CITIZENS.
IT MAY CENSUS'S LISTED ON THE AGENDA IDEA.
WOULD WE BE BETTER OFF THE TABLE FOR THE TIME BEING AND THEN COME BACK WITH A WORKSHOP ITEM AT, AT A LATER MEETING? THAT THAT'S WHAT I WOULD DO.
BUT IF YOU WANT THIS TO GO FORWARD, I WOULD GET IT ON THE WORKSHOP.
I THINK THERE'S WORK THAT COULD BE DONE BETWEEN NOW AND THE WORKSHOP MEETING AND WOULD BE GREAT WITH THIS COURT TO DO IT.
SO IT NEEDS TO BE DONE FOR THE END OF YEAR BECAUSE THESE GUYS ALL UNDERSTAND, BRING ANYBODY ELSE UP TO SPEAK ABOUT IT AND WE GET IT IN PLACE.
I KNOW YOU'VE NOT SEEN A COPY OF THE ADOPTED VEHICLE POLICY, BUT I THINK READY TAKE THIS, UH, WHICH PARENT? BECAUSE IT HAS A LOT ABOUT THE VEHICLES ALREADY IN HERE THAT WE ADOPTED.
YOU CAN TABLE IT TO BE PUT ON THE NEXT AGENDA IN YOUR MOTION.
I KNOW THATS PART OF THE PROBLEM GOING THE ENTIRE PROCESS.
JUST TABLE TO DISCUSSED AT THIS POINT IN TIME AUTOMATICALLY, COMMISSIONER FEEL LIKE IT JUST DOESN'T GET STUCK.
AND WE CAN ALSO TRY TO DO A SPECIAL WORKSHOP BETWEEN AND THE NEXT WHEN Y'ALL NEXT UH, 12TH.
THE OTHER THING I'D SAY VA, IS THAT THE LADY YES.
POLICY COME AND VISIT WITH US.
SHE WAS OUR RESOURCE AND SHE SAID I'M SURE SHE STILL THERE.
SHE WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL IN ANY KIND OF LEGAL QUESTION THAT YOU MIGHT I LIKE, I LIKE THE DA BE THAT POLICY.
BE PUT BACK ON THE 12TH AGENDA.
MR. PHILLIPS, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL FAVOR.
ITEM NUMBER 13 IS TO DISCUSS, CONSIDER APPROVING ANY NECESSARY BUDGETARY AND OR COUNTY CHANGES.
A COLLECTIONS IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM.
AS YOU REMEMBER BEFORE THE HOLIDAY, HE, UM, COURT YOU ALL COLLECTIONS AND IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM TO UM, BE UNDER THE DA'S OFFICE.
AND UM, AND SO PART OF THAT IS BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THE CLERK WOULD LIKE TO, UM, TO DEAL WITH ALL THE CHANGES THAT ARE COMING TO THE COLLECTION IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM TO, TO REMOVE THAT FROM HER OFFICE AND JUST DON'T HAVE THE RESOURCES TO DO THAT.
AND, AND I UNDERSTAND ALSO THAT THIS INCLUDES JP FOUR AND, AND DISTRICT COURTS AND AND PROBATION.
SO WHAT IS, WHAT IS COMING UP ON THE NOVEMBER THE 30TH AND PUBLIC DAYS? MYSELF AND DAVID, DANIEL ARE THE PROBATION MANAGER.
WE'LL BE GOING TO TYLER CLERK.
WE'RE GOING TO TYLER FOR THE, UM, CHAD, OUR REPRESENTATIVE, THE OFFICE OF SUPPORT ADMINISTRATION
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WILL BE DOING THE TRAINING FOR ALL OF THE NEW CHANGES THAT ARE GONNA BE REQUIRED IN JANUARY THE FIRST THOUSAND 17.AND YOU'VE HEARD US, IT'S BEEN DISCUSSED WORKSHOP.
JUST KIND OF IN SUMMARY, WHAT THAT MEANS IS THAT THE COLLECTIONS IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM WILL CHANGE AND THEY HAVE TO HAVE A FINDING INDIGENCY.
THERE HAS TO BE OTHER ALTERNATIVE MEANS AVAILABLE FOR, UM, A PERSON TO PAY THEIR COURT COSTS AND FINES.
AND SO IT BASICALLY WILL THAT THE OPERATE THE COLLECTION IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM AND WE'LL BE ADDING A LOT, LOT OF THE CRITERIA THAT'S REQUIRED.
BASICALLY, YOU KNOW, WHETHER WE HAVE TO OFFER DIFFERENT TYPES OF COMMUNITY SERVICE AND UM, AND JUST A LOT OF THE ADDITIONAL STEPS THAT WILL REQUIRE WORK FROM THE PROSECUTOR, THE JUDGES, AND THE PEOPLE THAT ARE, ARE REALLY RUNNING THE COLLECTION IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM.
IT'S A BUDGET, A PROPOSED BUDGET FOR THAT COLLECTION IMPROVEMENT.
AND WHAT WE'LL NEED IS A SUPERVISORY PERSON, UM, AND TWO CLERK, UM, TYPE POSITIONS.
AND SO, UM, WHAT WE'RE BRINGING BEFORE THE COURT TODAY IS A BUDGET AND, AND THIS BUDGET MAY CHANGE AS A PROGRAM IS, UM, GETS OFF THE GROUND.
IT COULD GO UP, IT COULD GO DOWN.
WE'RE WE'RE JUST TRYING TO OPERATE BASED ON THE PROJECTED COST AND WHAT WE BELIEVE WE'RE GOING BE REQUIRED TO DO.
WE'LL HAVE ALL DISTRICT COURTS, WE'LL HAVE J FOUR, WE BASICALLY HAVE ALL OF THE COLLECTION FOR THE COUNTY COURTS THIS.
AND SO, UM, OUR PROPOSED BUDGET WILL BE 120 3001 23 1 20 $3,120.
AND THEN THE, UM, ADOPTED BUDGET BY THE COURT WHEN WE DID THE BUDGET WORKSHOP WAS $75,000.
AND WE'VE ALSO, UM, DA'S OFFICE HAVE ALSO MET WITH KAREN, THE AUDITOR, AND TRIED TO WORK THROUGH THE NUMBERS.
THERE IS SOME SAVINGS THAT WE'RE ABLE TO IMPLEMENT, UM, ON SOME OF THE, UM, SOME OF THE SOFTWARE.
BUT THE DA'S OFFICE HAS ACCESS TO AND SUBSCRIPTIONS TOO.
WE JUST GONNA HAVE TO ADD LICENSING THAT YOU CANNOT, UM, GET THE ENTIRE NEW SUBSCRIPTIONS.
BUT BASICALLY THIS IS THE, UM, BUDGET THAT WE'RE ASKING THE COURT TO ADOPT.
AND IT'S JUST A MORE INVOLVED AND A, UM, MUCH LARGER PROGRAM WITH THESE CHANGES THAT WERE REQUIRED TO ADOPT ON JANUARY 1ST.
AND THE IMPORTANCE IN DOING IT RIGHT AND GETTING IT OFF TO THE CORRECT START.
AND WE'LL KNOW A LOT MORE IN A COUPLE OF DAYS WE GET TRAINING, BUT THE COUNTY IS AUDITED ON THIS PROGRAM AND UM, IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT THE COUNTY NEXT YEAR WHEN WE HAVE THE PREPARATION OF THE PROGRAM THAT WE PASSED THE AUDIT, THAT WE'RE NOT FINE OR HELD FURTHER WORK.
IT'S, IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE'RE ABLE TO PASS THIS AUDIT.
AND SO THAT'S WHERE WE'RE UM, ASKING FOR THE FUNDING.
ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT, 'CAUSE UNFORTUNATELY, THE, I SHOULDN'T SAY UNFORTUNATELY, THE SUPREME COURT JUSTICES, THIS IS A GREAT IDEA.
SO THIS ISN'T GO FORWARD JANUARY, NO MATTER HOW MUCH WALK AND WE DO THIS IS GONNA HAPPEN.
AND THE IDEA IS A RIGHTEOUS IDEA THAT IF YOU ARE ABLE TO PAY BECAUSE YOU'RE TRULY IN, THEN WE CAN'T MAKE YOU PAY AND WE CAN'T REVOKE YOU WHILE WE CAN'T PUNISH YOU FOR BEING POOR.
BUT WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO SET UP, WHICH LAURA'S ALREADY SEEN, IT'S A LOT MORE COMPLICATED.
WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO SET UP COMMUNITY SERVICES AND THAT TIME.
SO WE'RE GONNA MONITOR AND, AND HERE UNDERSTAND WE'RE GONNA TRY TO ROLL IT OUT, BUT JUST TO SEE HOW IT GOES.
MAYBE EVEN HIRE THE SUPERVISOR AND HIRE ONE PERSON.
MAYBE IT'S SOME OF THE, SINCE I'M DOING IT, SOME OF THE UM, SECRETARIES THAT ARE ALREADY IN MY OFFICE SEE IF WE CAN GET THEM TRAINED AT TO DO SOME OF THE WORK IN COURT.
THAT'S WHAT YOU KEEP SAYING, THAT IT'S REALLY COURT INTENSIVE, BUT WE CAN GET IT DONE IN COURT THAT'S GONNA BE ADDITIONAL, UM, ADDITIONAL FUNCTIONING FOR THEM.
AND THEN IF IT'S JUST STILL TOO MUCH WE'VE GOT IN THE BUDGET, WE COULD HIRE THAT SECOND PERSON.
LORD THINKS IT'S A LOT OF WORK RIGHT NOW AND THIS ADDITIONALLY IS GONNA MAKE MORE SO WE'RE TAKING OUR CUE TO HER.
BUT WE HAD TO BRING IT TO YOU NOW BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE ACTION ON THIS.
I I CAN'T REALLY SEND PEOPLE DOWN ON 30TH IS MY PROBLEM.
WE COULD TAKE THIS UP IN DECEMBER IF WE DIDN'T HAVE THAT TRAINING DATE ON 1130.
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THAT'S THE ONLY REASON WHY I'M HERE.AND LAURA'S BEEN REALLY HELPFUL IN MEETING WITH REBECCA AND I AND JUDGE WILEY AND HELPING EDUCATE US AND HELPING US WORK THROUGH THE CHANGES THAT SHE UNDERSTANDS.
AND SO WE REALLY APPRECIATE THAT LAURA TAKEN THE TIME AND SHE'S REALLY BEEN EXTREMELY HELPFUL AND IN FACT NOT USING, UM, I'M NOT TRYING TO BE UN FLATTERED, BUT SHE HAS SEEN THIS PROBLEM.
SHE SAW THIS COMING A YEAR AGO WHENEVER IT HIT THE LISTERV AND MAYBE THE REST OF US INTAKE SERIOUSLY ENOUGH BEFORE IT ACTUALLY WAS PASSED AND IT HAS NOW.
THE OTHER COUNTIES WE'VE TALKED TO, BECAUSE REBECCA DID RESEARCH, SHE, LIZ AND ELLIS, SOME FOLKS ARE NOT CHANGING ANYTHING.
IT'S KIND OF LIKE, I WANT YOU GUYS KNOW LIKE THE, LIKE THE EARLIER UH, AGENDA ITEM, SOME PEOPLE DIDN'T CHANGE.
ELLIS COUNTY'S GONNA KEEP IT THE SAME.
FOR EXAMPLE, NOT THROWING THEM UNDER THE BUS.
UH, OTHER COUNTIES AREN'T DOING ANYTHING.
I THINK THEY RUN THE RISK BECAUSE THEY'LL PULL OUR FUNDING EVEN THOUGH IT'S NOT LARGE ON OUR UNIT OF FUNDING.
I THINK THEY'RE GONNA GET RID BY ABOUT A YEAR TO IMPLEMENT OR SO, AND THEN AND WHENEVER.
I JUST WANT TO BE AHEAD OF THE CURVE.
SO JUST SAYING SOME PEOPLE AREN'T, YOU KNOW, JUST LIKE OTHER THINGS YOU'RE LIKE WE'RE NOT GONNA DO IT.
WE'LL JUST WAIT UNTIL WE GET CALLED ON THE PARK AND THEN WE'LL FIX IT.
WELL AND MOST PEOPLE ARE LOOKING AT IT AS ANOTHER UNFUNDED MANDATE.
AND I'VE TALKED ANECDOTAL JUDGES AROUND THE STATE, NOT EVERYBODY'S PART OF THEIR COLLECTION PROVE THE PROGRAM DOESN'T AFFECT EVERY RIGHT BECAUSE OF THE SCALE OF THE COUNTY.
INTERESTING TO ME AND I DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT ELLIS COUNTY, BUT UH, UH, SURPRISING THAT THEY WERE JUST NOT GONNA, WELL A LOT OF PEOPLE AREN'T AND YOU GUYS HAVE THAT OPTION, BUT IT'S AGAINST OUR ADVICE BECAUSE WE UNDERSTAND WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN AND IT MAY TAKE A COUPLE YEARS.
I MEAN FOR SOMEBODY THEY'RE GONNA GIVE US THE FIRST YEAR, PROBABLY THREE, REMEMBER KAREN, 75,000.
WE DID, I MADE A WHOLE DIFFERENT FLOOR.
SO WE, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THREE FOURTHS OF A YEAR BECAUSE THE FIRST THREE MONTHS OR NEARLY WILL BE THIS, BUT, SO WE MAY NOT HAVE TO BUDGET FOR FULL YEAR.
UH, SO THAT WILL HELP A LITTLE BIT IN FINDING THE, THE FUNDS TO DO THIS.
SHE WORKED THE SALARIES AND BENEFITS.
I ONLY GET IT FOR THE NINE MONTHS.
I'M GONNA PUT HER SOME MONEY THERE.
I LOVE THIS LOSING BUT IT'S OKAY BECAUSE I THINK WE'RE GONNA TALK, MAKE IT WORK.
'CAUSE IT'S IMPORTANT FOR HOW SOON OUR COURT SYSTEM WORKS.
THERE LIKELY WILL HAVE TO BE A CIP DOCKET ADDED TO A LOT OF THE DISTRICT COURTS AND A LOT OF UM, THE PEOPLE THAT WORK IN THE CIP PROGRAM WILL REALLY BE SPENDING A LOT MORE TIME ACTUALLY IN COURT, UM, WORKING KIND OF LIKE SORT OF A PROBATE COURTS, LIKE SOME COUNTIES HAVE THEIR COURTS IN THEIR, YOU KNOW, ISSUE LETTER TESTIMONY.
THERE'LL BE A LOT OF, OF MORE OF IN COURT WORK THAT THE CIP PERSONNEL WILL HAVE TO DO.
AND WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT FOR OUR DISTRICT COURTS AND COURTS, EVERYBODY, THAT THOSE DOCKETS RUN VERY SMOOTH.
WE HAVE PEOPLE THERE TO HANDLE WHAT NEEDS TO BE TAKEN CARE OF SO THAT EVERYTHING RUNS SMOOTH.
AS A
AND WHEN PEOPLE SAY IT'S MORE A COURT PUSHED TO THE COURT, WE HAVE TO BE HONEST, YOU ONLY HAVE SO MUCH YOU CAN MAKE THE JUDGE DO.
AND I THINK THEY WANNA BE VERY COOPERATIVE.
SO WE NEED TO HAVE IN PLACE IN THAT COURTROOM HOW THE ATTORNEYS CAN ACTUALLY BUMP THAT DOWN TO YOUR HELP BECAUSE YOU RUN THE RISK SOMETIMES CANNOT TALK TO FELONY DEFENDANTS IF THEY'RE IN IT OR NOT IN IT WITHOUT YOUR ATTORNEY.
SO WHILE YOU HAVE EVERYBODY IN THE ROOM, THAT'S WHEN YOU SET FOR PAYMENT PLANS.
WE'RE WEARING AROUND BEHIND THEM.
SO WE KIND OF TRY TO SIT BACK, TAKE ADVICE, WHAT PEOPLE HAVE DONE THIS BEFORE.
IF IT'S SOMEONE IN THE COUNTY CLERK'S OFFICE, YOU DON'T HAVE THAT LOBBY, BUT ANYBODY THAT'S PART OF MY STAFF, IT'S GONNA BE CONVEYED THAT THEY ARE TALKING TO THE DA.
SO THAT INFORMATION WILL BE IMPUTED.
SO WE HAVE TO HAVE THEIR ATTORNEY.
SO THAT MEANS THE WORK WILL HAVE TO HAPPEN.
SO WE JUST TRIED TO RUN THROUGH IT.
WE ALREADY MET WITH KAREN TO GO THROUGH THE NUMBERS.
SOME MONEY FROM MY BUDGET, SOME THE PLACES AND BECAUSE FRANKLY I WANTED THE UM, PERSON THAT'S RUNNING IT TO MAKE A LITTLE BIT MORE EXCEPT NEED THE PERSON THAT THE DECISION MAKER.
SO THEY'RE NOT SALARY OF THE COORDINATOR BECAUSE I DON'T THINK THAT LAW IS LAW.
SO, BUT IT IS, THEY'RE TALKING IF YOU HAVE A COLLECTION CLERK IN YOUR OFFICE, ARE THEY CONSIDERED TO BE AN INVESTIGATOR? DA THEY'RE NOT INVESTIGATOR BUT THEIR, THEIR COLLECTION AND FRANKLY EXCEPT THE STATUTE GIVES ME
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THE AUTHORITY, IT SEEMS THAT THERE COULD BE A CONFLICT.AND I THINK JUDGE WOOD IS ABOUT THE BUSINESS OF PUTTING THAT STOREFRONT ANOTHER PLACE.
BUT THE STATUTE SPECIFICALLY CONVEYS THAT AUTHORITY TO THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.
SO I'VE SEEN THAT FRONT LOAD HAS TO BE IN COURT, PARTICULARLY IN FELONY WITH THE ATTORNEYS.
THEN WHEN THEY COME IN AND THEY CHANGE, THAT PERSON HAS TO GET BACK IN FRONT OF A JUDGE AND AND THAT'S WHERE THE INFORMATION, 'CAUSE THERE HAS TO BE, WHAT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT IS THAT FINANCIAL ASSESSMENT.
THAT'S WHY THE, THE LEAD PERSON HAS GOTTA GO THROUGH AND MAKE THE FINAL ASSESSMENT AND SEE IF THINGS HAVE CHANGED AND THAT'S WHAT CREATES THAT CIP VALUE THAT DOES ANOTHER THING WE'RE REALLY TRYING TO DO AND AND SHERIFF KNOWS THIS, HE'S OTHER VISITING IS TO HELP WITH, TO HELP.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE DOING WHO DOESN'T JUST GO WITH CIP BUT JUST FOR THE JAIL POPULATION IS LITERALLY TRYING TO IMPLEMENT A DECEMBER OF JANUARY THE DA'S ACTUALLY GETTING AN ARRAIGNMENT.
'CAUSE PEOPLE THAT WE CAN REDUCE BONDS AND GET 'EM OUT IF THEY ARE BORDERLINE, AT LEAST IF THEY HAVE JOBS.
BECAUSE THIS IS NOT GONNA WORK IF, IF PEOPLE ARE JUST SITTING THAT ON A CASE THAT WE CAN MOVE THEM OUTTA JAIL.
SO IT'S ALSO GONNA CREATE SOME ADDITIONAL WORK IN MY OFFICE.
WE DON'T GO TO THE JAIL SO WE'RE HOPING THAT THE JPS, WE GET A CHANCE TO TALK TO THEM.
WE GET ON BOARD AND BE TIMELY AND BE MINDFUL OF OUR SCHEDULES AND WE'RE GONNA ADD THAT AS ANOTHER PIECE TO SEE IF THAT HELPS US GET GUYS WITH MISDEMEANOR CASES, LOW LEVEL FELONIES OUT OF THE JAIL, BACK IN A JOB IF THEY HAVE ONE.
SO THERE'S SEVERAL MOVING PIECES THAT'S BIG DEAL.
WHICH IS YES, I SAID, I SAID I THINK THE MISDEMEANOR PEOPLE HAVE JOBS AND I THINK WE CAN DO THAT.
THOSE ARE THE PEOPLE QUESTION.
I APPRECIATE YOUR HARD WORK SO FAR, BUT I HAVE TO DO EITHER.
NO, Y'ALL WELL SOME PEOPLE TAKE S COUNTY.
NO I MAKE SURE MAKE SURE YOUR CLEAR SAYING ELLIS IS CONTINUING TO DO COLLECTION.
WHAT DEPARTMENT DOES COLLECTION THROUGH THEIR, THEIR QUESTIONS? YEAH, THEY'RE JUST NOT BUT THEY'RE, THEY'LL IMPLEMENT AFTER TRAINING.
THEY'LL PROBABLY HAVE TO BACKTRACK AND DO A LITTLE BIT OF BUDGET.
BUT IN HERE IN THIS SITUATION WE'RE ACTUALLY GONNA CREATE A DIFFERENT PARKING.
SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE HAVING TO DO THE BUDGET POSITION.
AND I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND THERE'S JUST, YOU CAN'T HAVE IT BOTH WAYS.
I MEAN BOARD DOESN'T HAVE THE STAFF.
IT'S NOT JUST THE COUNTY CLERK, IT'S THE DISTRICT CLERKS NEVER DONE IT.
AND THE JP, JP FOUR HAS BEEN THEIR OWN COLLECTIONS DEPARTMENT.
PROBATION HAS BEEN THEIR OWN COLLECTIONS DEPARTMENT.
SO RATHER THIS CREATES A COLLECTIONS, A CENTRAL COLLECTIONS DEPARTMENT IN
WHEREAS BEFORE WE'VE BEEN, BUT, BUT WHAT SHE'S SAYING IS THE JPS ARE GONNA STILL KEEP COLLECTING IN OTHER COUNTIES AND CLERK STILL KEEP COLLECTING AND THE DISTRICT CLERKS IN PLAY AND THEY'RE NOT CENTRALIZING AS THE STATUTE SUGGESTED.
THEY THOUGHT WE WERE A LITTLE CRAZY, THEY THOUGHT WE WERE A LITTLE CRAZY WE'RE, WE'LL SEE HOW IT WORKS.
DO I HAVE UH, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS OR ARE YOU TO YOU THE BUDGET THAT THEY ASK FOR SO I CAN PUT THAT'S WHAT APPROVE THE BUDGET.
ALRIGHT, NEXT ITEM IS THE ITEM TRANSFER.
OH YEAH, YOU, THE LAST QUARTER OF SEPTEMBER, WE HAVE TWO PEOPLE GIVE YOU A COST FINANCIAL STATEMENT.
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HAVE I? YEAH, IT'S NOT OKAY.YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THE TRANSFER? ANSWERED IT.
I ANYBODY ELSE? YOU WANT TO GET THOSE PERMISSION? YEAH.
ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
YOUR CLAIMS FOR PAYMENT ARE $733,490.
YOU WROTE YOUR ROAD ON EXPENDITURES WERE HUNDRED 78,000 AND MADE HOUSING MEDICAL WAS ACCOUNTS THREE AND ARE SMALL.
ONE QUESTION PAGE 16 OF THE BIG PACKET.
IT'S UNDER REPAIRS AND REPLACEMENTS.
UM, AT THE UH, SHERIFF DEPARTMENT.
BOBBY, WERE YOU INVOLVED IN CONVERSATION WITH THAT? WITH HER? WE HAD THREE DIFFERENT THREADS ON THAT.
I'M NOT QUESTIONING THAT BUT WE HAVE A MAINTENANCE FACILITY DEPARTMENT BUT THEY CAN'T, THEY THEY CAN'T DIG UNDERNEATH THE THE JAIL AND CUT ALL THAT CONCRETE OUT.
THAT IS AS INTENSIVE AS IT IS.
WE'VE GOT ALL THIS STUFF IS BREAKING UNDERNEATH THE SLAB OR HAVING TO CUT THE SLAB COMPLETELY OUT.
BUT YOU DIDN'T HAVE A CONVERSATION TO SEE IF MY MAINTEN DEPARTMENT COULD DO THAT? YES.
OTHER QUESTIONS? I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE BILL.
WAIT A MINUTE, A MINUTE WAIT PLEASE.
UH, LAST WEEK WAS THE HOLIDAYS.
UH, WE WERE LATE GETTING UH, TO SIGN CREDIT CARD RECEIPTS AND BILLS FROM EVERYBODY AND I THINK HE PROBABLY GOT SOME EMAIL FROM MS. ELISA REGARDING THAT.
UH, WE WENT AHEAD AND PAID THAT BILL WEDNESDAY BEFORE WE LEFT AND GOT IT IN THE MAIL BECAUSE IT WAS DUE TODAY AND WE DIDN'T WANNA HAVE ANY LEG CHARGES SO IT GOT PAID.
BUT UM, IF MS. LISA DECIDES THAT SHE WANTS TO CALL THAT, THAT EXPERIENCE OF HAVING THE PRIVILEGE HARD PROBABLY BACK HER BECAUSE IT WAS DISASTER WHEN SEE EVERYBODY LEAVING AND NOBODY WANTED TO COME BRING THE SEATS.
I CAN BACK IT UP SAYING IT, IT WAS MORE THAN MORE THAN ONE DEPARTMENT AND IT WAS JUST UH, YOU KNOW, VERY AGGRAVATING BECAUSE EVERYBODY ELSE WAS LEAVING EARLY AND IT WAS KEEPING MY STAFF AND LISA'S STAFF FROM GETTING LEAVE EARLY LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE BECAUSE WE HAD TO GET THAT BILL PETTY.
DO WE HAVE A MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER ALLEN A SECOND? COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS
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DISCUSSION? OPPOSED? ALRIGHT, WE WILL TAKE A, UH, QUICK BREAK AND THEN WE'LL COME BACK IN AND CONVENE INTO A SESSION.UH, WE ARE EXECUTING THE EXECUTIVE SESSION AND WE GOT A MOTION FROM UH, COMMISSIONER ALLEN, UH, TO DO THAT AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER SHANE.
UH, A UNANIM LEAVE AND THE TIME 1145.
SO THE NEXT ITEM IS NUMBER 18 AND THAT IS TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER, UH, WHETHER WE'VE ALREADY DONE THAT 19.
THAT IS TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER TAKING ACTION NEEDED AS A RESULT OF THE EXECUTIVE SESSION.
DO I HAVE A MOTION IN THAT REGARD? I MAKE A MOTION TO CONFER AUTHORITY FOR DA'S OFFICE AND COUNTY JUDGE TO ATTEND MEDIATION CONCERNING CAUSE NUMBER 9 4 7 4 2 AND ENTERED INTO A MEDIATED SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT.
COMMISSIONER YOU ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
DO I HAVE A MOTION TO ADJOURN? MAKE A MOTION MR. MOTION.