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WOW.LOOKS LIKE WE HAVE A GUEST HERE THIS MORNING WITH US.
GET STARTED HERE JUST IN A SECOND.
I THANK YOU FOR US BRINGING US A LITTLE CHRISTMAS CHEER.
IT'S DECEMBER THE 12TH, 2016 OF THE KAUFMAN COUNTY COMMISSIONER'S COURT.
WE'LL CALL A MEETING TO ORDER.
IT DOES APPEAR WE HAVE A FORUM AND WE HAVE LOTS OF GUESTS WITH US TODAY.
AND OF COURSE, WE HAVE A SPECIAL GUEST HERE WITH, UH, SANTA CLAUS.
I'VE ALSO BEEN KNOWN, OR I'VE ALSO BEEN TOLD, HE IS AKA CHRIS DO WHO IS A MINISTER, THE YOUTH MINISTER OF TAMAN CHURCH OF CHRIST.
AND SO, UH, SANTA, UH, ALSO, MR. DO IS GOING TO GIVE OUR INDICATION HERE, JUST IN A MOMENT, UH, WE'LL HAVE THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE TO BOTH OF OUR FLAGS.
AND THEN IF YOU DO HAVE, UH, AN ITEM ON THE AGENDA THAT YOU WISH TO DISCUSS, UH, THAT'S LAID OUT HERE, JUST IN A FEW MOMENTS, UH, MON HUNTER IS SERVING AS OUR, UH, UH, COUNTY CLERK THIS MORNING.
AND SO WE'LL GET THOSE TO HER, THEN SHE WILL SEND THEM TO, UH, TO US.
SO WOULD YOU JOIN ME IN, UH, RISING AND WE'LL PRAY.
OUR KIND AND LOVING HEAVENLY FATHER, WE THANK YOU FOR THE BLESSING OF THE STATE.
FATHER, WE THANK YOU FOR, UH, THE BLESSING OF, UH, THIS FREEDOM OF GATHERING.
UH, I PRAY, FATHER, THAT YOU, UH, WILL BE WITH, UH, ALL OF OUR LEADERS.
FATHER, THAT YOU, UH, WILL BESTOW UPON THEM, UH, YOUR WISDOM, YOUR GUIDANCE, FATHER, THAT, UH, YOU WOULD GIVE THEM, UH, THE COURAGE TO STAND AND TO SPEAK, UH, WOULD NEED IT.
FATHER, THE WISDOM, UH, TO SIT AND LISTEN, UH, AS NEEDED.
UH, FATHER, I PRAY THAT YOU, UH, WOULD BE A GUIDING LIFE FOR, UH, OUR COMMUNITY, FOR OUR COUNTRY.
FATHER, I PRAY THAT YOU WOULD LEAD US IN THE DIRECTION THAT YOU WOULD HAVE US TO GO, FATHER, THAT YOU WOULD GIVE US STRENGTH, UH, FOR EACH DAY SEEING YOUR SONS PRAY.
STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR RELIGIOU STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, GOD IN INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY, JUSTICE, JUSTICE FOR ALL ON HONOR OF TEXAS.
FLAG, I ALLEGIANCE TO BEING THE TEXAS ONE STATE UNDER GOD, ONE AN INDIVISIBLE IN THE WAY OF ROUTINE CORRESPONDENCE.
I DON'T REALLY HAVE THAT ANYTHING OTHER THAN SANTA BEING HERE.
AND HE, UH, IS LEAVING, I GUESS GOING ABOUT HIS MISSION.
SO I'M THANKFUL FOR BEING HERE, GETTING US STARTED OFF.
AND AGAIN, IF YOU HAVE AN ITEM THAT YOU WISH, UH, THE COURT, PLEASE BILL FREE TO GET THAT OVER IT, BE ON THE AGENDA, AND, UH, GIVE IT TO MONIQUE SO SHE CAN GET IT UP TO APPEAR APPROPRIATE.
FIRST ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS THE CONSENT AGENDA.
AND ITEM ASK TO ACCEPT THE REGULAR MEETING MINUTES FOR NOVEMBER THE 14TH, 2016, AND NOVEMBER THE 28TH, 2016, AND A SPECIAL MEETING MINUTES, UH, THE EIGHTH AND NOVEMBER 21ST, 2016.
YOU ALSO HAVE A REPORT FROM, UH, THE KAUFMAN COUNTY, UH, CHILDREN'S, UH, SHELTER.
AND, UH, WE NEED TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER THAT FOR, UH, MONTHS OF SEPTEMBER AND OCTOBER, 2016.
UH, ITEM C IS TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACCEPTING A DONATION OF CRUSHED CONCRETE AND ROCK FROM COMMUNITIES TO BE PLACED ON COUNTY ROAD 2 57, PRECINCT FOUR OUT TO BE DETERMINED AFTER PROJECT IS COMPLETED.
UH, WILL BE SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 70, 80, 70,000.
AND THEN ITEM D IS TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER WILLIAM NIXON AND WAYNE PRICHARD AS BOARD MEMBERS FOR EMERGENCY SERVICES DISTRICT NUMBER FIVE FOR A TWO YEAR TERM.
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UH, GENTLEMEN, DO YOU HAVE QUESTIONS OR, UH, COMMENTS, UH, ON YES.UH, THE REAPPOINTMENT OF, UH, MIKE WAS LEFT OFF TODAY ON D ON D, YES.
MIKE, UH, WAYNE PRI TWO NEW MEMBERS.
AND, OKAY, SO HE WOULD BE, THAT BE INCLUDED IN THE MOTION.
SO, UH, ANY OTHER, UH, DIRECTIONS OR COMMENTS ON THE AGENDA? ALRIGHT, WE HAVE A MOTION.
SECOND PHILLIPS SECOND MOTION.
UH, ITEM NUMBER THREE IS TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER APPRO AN AMENDED INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT CONCERNING THE CITY OF KAMAN, NUMBER ONE.
AND I BELIEVE THE CITY MANAGER HERE FROM KAMAN AND REBECCA, I BELIEVE YOU, UH, HAVE THIS INFORMATION FOR US.
WHICH ONE WOULD YOU LIKE TO HEAR AHEAD? THANK YOU, JUDGE.
AND COMMISSIONERS, UH, THIS IS AN AMENDED PLAN THAT YOU'VE ALREADY APPROVED ONCE FOR THE JUROR NUMBER ONE HERE IN DOCUMENT.
UH, WE BASICALLY HAVE, UH, APPROACHED THE BOARD ON THE 14TH.
WE, WE, WE APPROACHED THE JURORS BOARD BOARD ON NOVEMBER 14TH, AND THEY UNANIMOUSLY HAVE PASSED A RESOLUTION IN SUPPORT OF THE TWO AMENDMENTS TO OUR PROPERTY THAT WOULD INCREASE THE ZONING BOUNDARY TO INCLUDE SOME PROPERTIES ON THE NORTH SIDE OF 1 75, UH, OUT TOWARD FAIR ROAD THAT THE FRONT END 1 75 AND THE BUSINESS PARK, THE VERY CREEK CROSS PARK, UH, THAT IN THAT INCLUDES ADDITIONAL POTENTIAL DEVELOPMENT.
UH, THE SECOND AMENDMENT TO THE TERRORIST PLAN, UH, SIMILAR TO WHAT THE COUNTY AGREED TO DO TO BEGIN WITH, WOULD BE FOR THE CITY TO CARVE OUT ITS INS OR INTEREST IN SINKING COMPONENT OF THEIR TAX RATE, IN THEIR CONTRIBUTION RATE, UH, THEREBY DECREASING THE AMOUNT FOR THE COUNTY.
WHAT THAT BASICALLY MEANS IS, UH, THE ORIGINAL PROJECT AND FINANCING PLAN THAT YOU APPROVED, SHOULD EVERYTHING BE DEVELOPED, UH, OVER A 31 YEAR PERIOD, UH, WOULD BE A MAX WAS ORIGINALLY A MAXIMUM 20 PLUS MILLION DOLLAR CONTRIBUTION.
UH, BECAUSE OF THE INCREASE IN THE, IN THE, UH, LAND VOLUME, UH, AND THE DECREASE INCREASE IN TAXING CONTRIBUTION RATES, YOUR CONTRIBUTION ACTUALLY COMES DOWN TO 19.8 MILLION.
UH, SO IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT THAT WE HAVE, YOU HAD A COUPLE OF WEEKS TO REVIEW THAT PLAN.
I GOT AN EMAIL FROM REBECCA THAT BASICALLY SAID THEY HAVE, THERE WAS NO, UH, CAUSE OR CONCERN.
UM, AND IT WOULD, UH, CERTAINLY BE, UH, APPRECIATIVE IF YOU WOULD CONSIDER APPROVING THE AMENDED INTER LOCAL AGREEMENT THAT WE HAVE, UH, BEFORE YOU TODAY.
THE CITY COUNCIL WILL CONSIDER THE SAME AGREEMENT TOMORROW NIGHT THAT ITS COUNSEL MEETING.
BECKY, YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD TO? I DON'T.
MIKE HAD A GREAT SYNOPSIS AND I THINK INTER IS JUST AMENDED TO TAKE IN CONSIDERATIONS FOR THE AMENDMENTS THAT THE CITY'S GOING THROUGH.
AND I KNOW, UM, OUR MEMBERS OF THE COURT ON FIFTH FLOOR HAVE ALREADY SEEN THESE DOCUMENTS.
I SENT OUT THE FINANCING PLAN FOR YOU GUYS AND AN EXTRA EMAIL, BUT IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, LET US KNOW.
UH, MR. LIK, I THINK YOU SERVE ON OUR, ON THAT BOARD AND, UH, WE HAVE A MOTION FROM MR. WE HAVE A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER ALLEN.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY, I'M SORRY.
I, I'M THE ONE THAT HAS TO FIGURE OUT, I NEED A COPY OF THAT AGREEMENT SO I, WE GET, WE GET THAT TO YOU.
AS SOON AS THE CITY, THEY'VE GOTTA COMPLETE THEIR PART OF IT AS WELL.
ALRIGHT, SO WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
ALRIGHT, THE NEXT ITEM IS TO NUMBER FOUR AND DISCUSS, CONSIDER SPONSORING A DAM REHABILITATION, UH, APPLICATION TO THE UNITED STATES DEPARTMENT OF AGRICULTURE AND
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THE NATURAL RESOURCE CONSERVATION SERVICES FOR SCS SITES.UH, BELIEVE, UH, WE HAVE REPRESENTATIVES HERE THIS MORNING.
UH, OWEN, IF YOU'D LIKE TO COME FORWARD, UH, THIS IS, UH, A PROJECT THAT IS, UH, NEEDING TO BE HANDLED AS RAPIDLY AS POSSIBLE.
I'M A DISTRICT TECHNICIAN FOR THE SOIL PARK CONSERVATION DISTRICT.
UH, WE ALSO HAVE ONE OF OUR BOARD MEMBERS, STEVE CHAIN IS HERE AND ALSO GLEN LUKI IS HERE.
HE IS WITH THE U-S-D-A-N-R-C-S, UH, MORNING FIELD OFFICE.
UH, WHAT I'M HERE TODAY TO ASK Y'ALL TO APPROVE HIS RESOLUTION TO SEND IN AN APPLICATION FOR THE REHAB FEDERAL REHABILITATION PROGRAM ON LOWER EAST FARM LATERAL SITES NINE AND 10.
THESE ARE BOTH IN THE WARSAW COMMUNITY AND SITE 10 IS THE, UH, LAKE OR THE DAM WHERE WE HAD ALL THE FLOODING PROBLEM WITH, UH, BACK IN JUNE.
AND, UH, DISPLACED QUITE A FEW PEOPLE, UH, FLOODING SOME HOMES.
UH, THE DAM HAS, UH, QUITE A FEW PROBLEMS. UH, ONE OF THE MAIN PROBLEMS IS THE, UM, THE PRINCIPLE FILL WAY PIPE.
THE PIPE THAT GOES THROUGH THE DAM WAS ORIGINALLY A 17 INCH PIPE, UH, AND THAT IN 2010 IT WAS WHAT'S CALLED SLIP LINE.
THEY PUT A SMALLER PIPE INSIDE OF IT TO CORRECT A PROBLEM WITH THE PIPE ITSELF.
SO THEY PUT A 13 INCH ID PIPE INSIDE THAT 17 INCH PIPE, WHICH DECREASES THE AMOUNT OF FLOW THAT WILL COME THROUGH THAT PIPE.
SITE NINE IS UPSTREAM FROM IT, FROM, IT HAS A 17 INCH PIPE THROUGH IT.
SO IN ESSENCE, YOU HAVE MORE
THE LAKE STAYS UP AT HIGH LEVEL MUCH LONGER THAN IT WAS DESIGNED TO STAY THERE DOWN, LIKE, SAY DOWN SOME PROBLEMS TO IT.
THESE ARE BOTH, THESE SITES ARE CONSIDERED BY, UH, TCEQ STANDARDS AS HIGH HAZARD, WHICH HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE ACTUAL CONDITION OF THE DAM.
IT HAS TO DO WITH DOWNSTREAM HAZARDS IN CASE OF A BREACH OF THE DAM.
THAT'S WHAT MAKES HIGH HEADED.
BOTH THESE SITES ARE HIGH HEADED.
UH, WE WERE REQUESTING THAT SITE 10 BE REHABILITATED BEFORE SITE NINE DOES IS.
AND, UH, WE HAVE MADE A JUST PRELIMINARY ESTIMATE, AND THIS IS STRICTLY AN ESTIMATE ON THE CONSTRUCTION COST OF THIS, OF THESE SITES AT ONE AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS EACH.
RIGHT NOW, THE, UH, FEDERAL REHABILITATION PROGRAM PAYS 65% OF THE COST.
THE LOCAL SPONSOR IS PAYS 35%.
RIGHT NOW, THE STATE HAS A PROGRAM WHERE THE STATE IS PAYING 95% OF THAT 35%, WHICH IN ESSENCE LEAVES 1.75% FOR THE LOCAL SPONSOR, WHICH KAUFFMAN COUNTY IS LOCAL SPONSOR ON BOTH THESE SITES.
SO I BELIEVE 1.75% OF THE TOTAL COST TO, TO THE COUNTIES TO BE.
I ALSO, I REQUESTED THAT THESE SITES BE REHABILITATED IN TWO SEPARATE BUDGET YEARS, WHICH WOULD MAKE IT A LOT EASIER FOR THE COUNTY BUDGET WISE.
DID ONE, ONE BUDGET YEAR ONE ANOTHER BUDGET YEAR, AND IT COULD POSSIBLY EVEN RUN INTO, IT DEPENDS ON WHEN TO ACTUALLY START CONSTRUCTION.
IT COULD BE SPLIT INTO TWO DIFFERENT YEARS, UH, DEPENDING ON WHEN THE CONSTRUCTION STARTED.
NORMAL CONSTRUCTION ONLY SITES ARE RUNNING THREE TO SIX MONTHS, OR EVEN SOMETIMES LONGER DEPENDING ON WEATHER CONDITIONS.
SO IF THEY STARTED IN, LET'S SAY IN JUNE AND THEN ROUND AT THE ENDS OF AUGUST OR OCTOBER, SEPTEMBER BEFORE THE, OR NOVEMBER SOMETHING BEFORE THEY FINISH, IT COULD BE SPLIT INTO TWO 50 YEARS.
RIGHT NOW, WHAT WE'RE ASKING Y'ALL TO DO IS JUST TO SPONSOR THE APPLICATION PROCESS.
WHEN THE FIGURES, WHEN THE ENGINEERING IS DONE AND THEY COME UP WITH A MORE PRECISE COST ESTIMATE, WE WILL COME BACK TO YOU AGAIN FOR YOU TO SIGN A AGREEMENT SAYING THAT YOU WILL AGREE TO THIS APPLICATION MONEY TO APPLY THAT MONEY TO THAT.
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NOW WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR IS, THIS IS JUST A PRELIMINARY APPLICATION TO BE SENT IN.UH, THIS GOES THROUGH A RANKING PROCESS.
UH, I UNDERSTAND, I'VE BEEN TOLD BY 50 HOWARD BELIEVE THAT FIVE 10 IS GONNA BE PUT ON A PRIORITY LIST TO BE PUSHED AS QUICK AS POSSIBLE, WHICH I DON'T KNOW WHAT QUICK AS POSSIBLE IS GONNA MEAN ON THIS.
NORMALLY THESE, THESE PROCESSES ANYWHERE FROM TWO TO FIVE YEARS, BUT IF THEY EXPEDITE IT, WE COULD POSSIBLY SEE CONSTRUCTION OUT THERE WITHIN 18 TO 24 MONTHS.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S OUR HOPE ANYWAY.
I SEE AGE OF THESE TWO DOWN, BOTH THESE DOWN BUILT IN 1953.
WELL, THEY'VE BEEN AROUND A WHILE.
THEY'VE BEEN AROUND FOR A WHILE.
UH, THESE SITES WHEN THEY ORIGINALLY BUILT, OR ALL OF THE SITES IN COFFMAN COUNTY, WERE BUILT IN 50 YEAR LIFESPAN, WHICH THE LIFESPAN DOESN'T ACTUALLY MEAN THAT IT, AT END OF 50 YEARS, IT'S DEAD AND GONE.
I MEAN, IT'S GOING TO BE THERE AS LONG AS WE KEEP UP THE MAINTENANCE ON THESE SITES.
UH, THEY CAN LAST ANOTHER 50 OR A HUNDRED YEARS.
UH, THESE, UH, THESE LAKES OR THESE DAM PROVIDE, HAVE A TWOFOLD PURPOSE.
UH, FIRST ONE IS, UH, OF COURSE FLOOD CONTROL, WHICH EVERYBODY'S AWARE OF,
ANOTHER ONE IS SEDIMENT CAPTURE.
THEY'RE ACTUALLY DESIGNED TO, TO CAPTURE AND FILL UP THE SEDIMENT.
AND THAT'S WHERE THE LIFESPAN COMES FROM, IS THE SEDIMENT PART OF IT.
BUT THE FLOOD PART OF IT, I, THERE'S NO NO END INPUT.
THE PROTECTION OF THE MR. ALLEN'S AWARE OF SOME OF THE SEDIMENT CAPTURE, HOW IT WORKS.
IT'S BASICALLY, IT'S ALMOST FILLED UP, TWO OF 'EM.
BUT, UH, BUT THEY, BUT THEY'RE STILL FUNCTIONING WITH THE FLOOD PROTECTION PART.
THEY SLOW THE WATER DOWN, THEY'RE DESIGNED TO FILL UP AND THEN RELEASE SLOW, WHICH DECREASES THE DOWNSTREAM FLOODING IS WHAT THEY'RE DESIGNED TO DO.
HOW MANY, UH, AND I THINK TOLD THIS BEFORE, HOW MANY OF THESE DAMS, HOW MANY OF THESE STRUCTURES DO WE HAVE? KAMAN COUNTY, KAUFMAN COUNTY.
LOTS OF, THERE'S, THERE'S LOTS OF THEM.
UH, SEVERAL OF THEM ARE NOT SPONSORED BY THE COUNTY.
THEY'RE SPONSORED BY THE CITY.
THE CITY OF KAMAN HAS A, HAS A SPONSORED LAKE OUT HERE.
UH, CITY OF LL HAS THREE LAKES THAT THEY, THAT THEY ARE SPONSORS OF.
WELL, WE'D BE HAPPY TO DONATE SOMETHING
I I I'M SURE THAT, I'M SURE THAT THEY WOULD BE.
WE GOT A $20 BILL AGAINST THE TREE OUT THERE.
I, OWEN HAS BEEN A LOT OF WORK ON THIS.
HE'S THERE QUITE A BIT TO HELP HIM DO THESE THINGS.
AND I APPRECIATE ALL THE WORK YOU'VE DONE AND TRY TO GET THIS EXPEDITED.
AND LIKE I SAY, FOR THE PEOPLE THAT I'VE TALKED TO AND HEARD FROM, UH, IT WILL BE EXPEDITED, PUSHED THROUGH ON QUICKER THAN WHAT WHAT NORMALLY WOULD HAVE ON, UH, SITE NINE IS HAS NOT BEEN QUITE AN ISSUE.
AND IT MAY NOT BE, IT MAY BE THE FOUR TO FIVE YEARS BEFORE IT WOULD BE, UH, REHABILITATED, BUT NOW THEY WILL DO THE PLANNING.
WE RECENTLY SENT IN THE APPLICATION ON SITE 10 BY ITSELF.
THEY CAME BACK AND TOLD US, WELL, TO DO 10, YOU ARE GONNA HAVE TO SEND IN APPLICATION FOR NINE BECAUSE NINE IS UPSTREAM FOR 10 AND IT NINE AFFECTS 10, UH, GREATLY.
SO IN THE, AND THE PLANNING AND THE PLANNING PART OF IT, THEY'RE GOING TO DO THE PLANNING ON BOTH OF 'EM AT THE SAME TIME.
BUT THE ACTUAL CONSTRUCTION, UH, I DON'T THINK THAT WE'LL DO BOTH OF THEM AT THE SAME TIME ON.
BUT NOW I, I CAN JUST DO, I'M NOT GONNA WORK MAKE ALL DO I I'LL DO ALL, WE'RE DOING ALL WE CAN.
AND I FEEL LIKE IF THE COUNTY, UH, AGREE TO THESE APPLICATIONS, SEND THESE APPLICATIONS IN, THE COUNTY'S DOING WHAT THEY CAN, THIS PART OF IT.
AND WHEN IT COMES DOWN TO THE, WHERE YOU HAVE TO VOTE ON THE DOLLAR AMOUNT, THAT WILL BE THE INITIAL WHERE THE COUNTY'S REALLY DOING ALL THEY DO PUTTING MONEY INTO IT.
ONE OF THE THINGS WE'LL WANT TO WORK CLOSELY WITH YOU GUYS IS AS WE PREPARE OUR BUDGET EACH YEAR, WE'LL NEED TO KIND OF HAVE A HEADS UP ON WHAT, WHAT THE TIMEFRAME THAT THAT WILL BE.
ONE OF THE THINGS WE STRESS TO THEM WHEN WE SEND IN THESE APPLICATIONS IS TO, YOU KNOW, LET US NOT
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COME UP HERE ALL OF A SUDDEN ONE DAY HERE, HERE IT IS, YOU GOTTA SIGN IT RIGHT HERE AND WE NEED THE MONEY TOMORROW.UH, AND NORMALLY THE, THE, UH, SPONSORS PORTION OF THE MONEY WILL BE THE VERY LAST PAYMENT MADE.
UH, IS NORMALLY THE COUNTY SPONSORED A, UH, REPAIR ADVOCATE, A REPAIR ON THE DAM, UH, LOWER EAST PARK.
SEVEN, ABOUT FOUR OR FIVE YEARS AGO, FOUR YEARS AGO, I BELIEVE IT WAS REPAIR ON THIS WAS RIGHT OFF.
SO 1 48 JUST, I MEAN YOU SEE THE DAM FROM 1 48 ON THE SMITH PROPERTY AND UH, THE COUNTY, THEIR LAST PAYMENT WAS, OR THE LAST PAYMENT MADE TO THE CONTRACTOR WAS THE COUNTY'S PORTION OF IT.
AND IT WAS, IT WAS ABOUT A SIX MONTH PROCESS TO DO THAT ONE.
SO IT'S, YOU'RE NOT GOING HAVE TO PAY IT UP.
UH, COMMISSIONER ALLEN SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER SHANE, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
THERE ARE FIVE COPIES OF EACH ONE OF THESE THAT WILL NEED TO BE SIGNED.
UH, WHO WOULD I NEED PLEASE? UH, IF LET HAPPEN THEN I'LL THEM UP AND UH, SHE PROBABLY THANK YOU.
ALRIGHT, WE'LL TRY TO SPEAK LOUDER AND UH, HOPEFULLY THAT'LL HELP SOME.
WE'VE TURNED UP THE VOLUME HERE ON OUR PA SYSTEM.
UH, THE NEXT ITEM IS NUMBER FIVE AND THAT IS TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER APPROVING RETIRING OFFICER SHERIFF DAVID BURNS TO PURCHASE HIS ISSUED HANDGUN FOR 50% OF ITS, UH, MARKET VALUE.
AND I BELIEVE CHIEF BEAVERS, UH, THAT'S SOMETHING YOU WOULD, UH, ASK.
IT'LL BE THIS POLICY STATE STATUTE, THE STATE STATUTE PLUS OUR POLICY THAT, UH, PRODUCED.
UH, I LISA, I DON'T KNOW THE DOLLAR AMOUNT USE OF WHAT WE USE.
I NEED THE SPECIFICATIONS ON THE SHERIFF'S GUN, IT'S OUR SAME GUN.
AND THEN I, I'LL GIVE TOGETHER, GO TO THE UH, WEBSITES WEBSITE AND GET THAT AVERAGE.
SO IT'S WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING FOR THE OTHER PEOPLE THAT'S RETIRED AND UNDERNEATH THE POLICY AND UNDERNEATH THE GUIDELINE OF THE STATE.
OKAY, WE HAVE QUESTIONS FROM UNION COMMISSIONERS.
HAVE A MOTION FOR COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS SECOND.
HAVE A SECOND FOR COMMISSIONER ALLEN.
ALL RIGHT, THE NEXT ITEM IS NUMBER UH, SIX AND THAT IS TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ENTERING INTO A LEASE AGREEMENT WITH THE TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION TO REPLACE THE UHF WITH EQUIPMENT ON THE OLD RADIO TOWER LOCATED AT 3001 SOUTH WASHINGTON STREET IN COLTON.
THIS WAS ON THE AGENDA I BELIEVE LAST TIME, BUT NEEDED A LITTLE FURTHER CLARIFICATION.
SO REBECCA, JUST A BRIEF UPDATE ON IT.
SO TO PREVIOUSLY, WHENEVER YOU GUYS VOTED ON IT, IT WAS SUBJECT TO AN MOU BEING PROVIDED FROM T THEY CAME BACK WITH A LEASE AGREEMENT.
SO IT WAS KIND OF BEYOND THE SCOPE OF WHAT THE COURT PREVIOUSLY CONSIDERED.
SO I'VE RE PUT IT ON THE AGENDA FOR YOU GUYS TO LOOK AT.
HOWEVER, ONCE I HAVE MY EDITS DONE ON THEIR LEASE AGREEMENT, NOW THEY'RE WALKING BACK ON AS TO WHETHER OR NOT THEY LIKE LEASE AGREEMENTS.
SO THEY'RE LOOKING TO SUBMIT AN MOU TO US.
UM, IF YOU GUYS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THE MOU, ONCE I GET IT FINALIZED, I'LL SEND IT OUT AGAIN.
BUT WOULD THE COURT LIKE TO HAVE IT BACK? IT'S AN MOU OR, UM, I MEAN I KNOW UNDER THE PREVIOUS AGENDA LANGUAGE IT COVERED MOU BUT NOT LEASE.
ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT? BUT AS OF TODAY, I JUST ASK THAT THE COURT TABLE IT BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE A DOCUMENT.
ALRIGHT, SO ALRIGHT, WE HAVE A MOTION TO TABLE FROM COMMISSIONER ALLEN.
SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS.
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OPPOSED? OKAY.CAN EVERYBODY HEAR A LITTLE BETTER NOW? YES.
UH, ITEM NUMBER SEVEN IS TO DISCUSS, CONSIDER ENTERING INTO A JOINT INTERLOCAL COOPERATION AGREEMENT.
THAT'S THE ONE MILL FARM THAT WE'VE BEEN PROVIDING FOR THE LAST SEVEN YEARS.
UH, WE UPDATED THE CONTRACT WITH ALL THE, UH, NEW NUMBERS AS FAR AS UH, SALARIES, INSURANCE, AND EVERYTHING THAT WE NEEDED TO AND COMMITTED TO THEM.
THEIR ATTORNEYS SEND BACK THEIR CONTRACT.
I'VE HAD REBECCA LOOK OVER THAT AND WE PUT IT ON AGENDA.
SO EVERYTHING IS AS USUAL AND NORMAL.
WE JUST NEED TO GET APPROVED INSIDE.
YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT? IT OVER? I'M GOOD.
YEAH, AND THEY REIMBURSE US FOR EXACTLY WHAT THE DEPUTY IS.
SO IT'S JUST AN ONGOING, ONGOING CONTRACT.
MR. PHILLIPS SECOND THE MOTION.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
NEXT ITEM, UH, IS NUMBER EIGHT, UH, TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER PURCHASES MADE FOR MATERIALS FOR NX REMODEL PROJECT AND VALIDITY OF CONTRACTS RECEIVED AND JUST REPLACED ON THE AGENDA.
YEAH, THIS IS A FOLLOW UP ON ITEM WE HAD PREVIOUSLY AND, UM, THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AND I THINK, UH, JUDGE ALSO SAID THAT THEY DIDN'T HAVE PROPER DOCUMENTATION PRIOR TO MEETING.
SO DID EVERYBODY GET THEIR, THEIR DOCUMENTATION? I'M GLAD JACKET HERE ALSO.
I HE PART OF THIS BEFORE LEFT AND THE QUESTION WAS, UM, IS THE, THE CONTRACT OR ACTUALLY THE CONTRACT FROM THE NEW DOWN COURT, IT WAS NEVER BROUGHT TO COURT THOUGH 27 THAT I, THE CONTRACTOR, THE VENDOR THAT WE WENT WITH COURSE TURNED IN AND IN THAT IT SAID THEY WOULD DEMO THE EXISTING FLOOR AND INSTALLED THE UH, THE NEW CARPET TILE.
SO THE QUESTION IS, WHERE ARE WE AT ON THIS PROJECT? I THINK PROBABLY TALKED ABOUT AND IS GONNA COMPLETE THIS FOR THIS TESTIMONY.
UM, I DUNNO IF PERSON HAS ANYBODY TO ADD TO THAT OR POSSIBLY JACK.
WELL, YOU KNOW THAT THEY, YOU DO KNOW THAT THEY, UH, FOUND THE ASBESTOS.
THAT WAS, THAT WAS THE ITEMS DISCUSSED AND, AND I KNOW THAT HAS TO BE TAKEN CARE OF.
BUT, UM, CAN THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE TELL US IF, AND I WE TALKED ABOUT THIS, IF, IF THIS IS A, IF THIS IS A BINDING STATEMENT HERE, ESTIMATE A CONTRACT SO THAT THEY WILL FOLLOW UP FINISH.
BUT YOU KNOW, IT HAS A DISCLAIMER ON THAT ESTIMATE.
IT SAYS BECAUSE OF THE UNKNOWN CONDITION OF THE SUBFLOOR, LOOSE TILES, ET CETERA, ANY FLOW PREP NECESSARY WILL BE BILLED AT $60 PER BAG INSTALLED.
SO THEY, AND THEN THEY THEY HAVE, EVERYBODY HAS DISCLAIMERS WHENEVER IT COMES TO, WELL ALL, ALL THE OTHER BIDDERS HAD A DISCLAIMER ON ANY, UH, ABATEMENT BUT THIS ONE DID NOT.
SO I'M ASKING HONOR, WHAT WAS YOUR QUESTION TO US? NOT LIKE WE DISCUSSED IN OUR MEETING.
MY QUESTION IS, WILL THEY BE HELD TO FULFILL THIS CONTRACT WITH THIS ESTIMATE? WHAT WE DISCUSSED IN THE MEETING THAT YOU HAD WITH, UM, REBECCA AND I AND WITH YOUR OFFICE IS THAT IT'S AN ESTIMATE, IT'S BEEN PRESENTED THE COURT, I DUNNO IF IT'S BEEN PAID OR NOT, IT'S NOT NECESSARILY A CONTRACT, BUT IT'S AN ESTIMATE.
AND WE DISCUSSED A LOT OF THINGS ABOUT, UM, THE, UM, ASBESTOS REMEDIATION NEEDS TO TAKE PLACE.
AND IT WAS JUST LEFT A VERY OPEN ENDED CONVERSATION THAT WE HAD THAT, THAT I ALWAYS CAN TELL YOU IS THE DOCUMENTS REPRESENTED SOME ESTIMATES AND THOSE ARE DECISIONS THAT THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT WOULD HAVE, WOULD HAVE TO MAKE.
THERE'S, I THINK THERE'S A REMEDIATION, WE TALKED ABOUT HAVING COMMITTEE AND LOOKING AT THE, UM, RENOVATION, THE, UM, RENOVATION CHANGES AND REMEDIATION OF ASBESTOS AS A WHOLE
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IN THE AMEX.AND SO IT WAS REALLY A DISCUSSION MEETING THAT WE HAD.
SO I DON'T, AND I I THINK WE'VE GOT A VERY GOOD POINT.
I THINK WE SHOULD MOVE FORWARD ON POINTING SOME TYPE OF COMMITTEE TO, TO OVERSEE MAYBE NOT ONLY THIS PROJECT BUT ALL OUR MAJOR RECONSTRUCTION PROJECTS SO THAT THEY DON'T JUST GET STALLED OUT LIKE THIS ONE HAS BEEN.
BUT THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT WE DISCUSSED AND IT'S AN ESTIMATE IN MY UNDERSTANDING.
I DUNNO IF IT'S BEEN PAID OR I THINK IT HAS.
THE CARPET ITSELF HAS PAID YES.
AND THAT WAS PAID BASED ON THE ESTIMATE, THE INVOICE, BUT I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY KIND OF FURTHER CONTRACT ON WHAT WE SAW AND WE DISCUSSED.
SO REALLY IT'S A SITUATION WHERE IT'S SOMETHING THE COMMISSION COURT WILL HAVE TO DECIDE IS AN ON IT APPEARS TO BE AN ONGOING PROJECT INVOICE AND FURTHER EXPENSES AND IT'S SOMETHING COURT, NOT DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE WILL HAVE TO DECIDE HOW THEY'RE GONNA PROCEED AND MOVE FORWARD.
BUT I THINK, I THINK WE NEED TO MOVE FORWARD ON COURSE, IT'S NOT ON THE AGENDA, BUT WE SHOULD APPOINT SOME TYPE OF BUILDING COMMITTEE, I'M NOT SURE, BE IN, UH, MAINTENANCE OF COURSE.
BUT, UM, WE'VE DEVELOPED A RECORD, THESE PROJECTS JUST STALLING OUT AND NOTHING HAPPENED.
SO TO MOVE FORWARD, UM, MAYBE WE COULD PUT SOMETHING TOGETHER FOR THE NEXT MEETING.
SO THIS ONE HAD A LOT OF FACETS TO IT BECAUSE YOU, UM, BOBBY WAS HIRED IN DURING THIS TIME, SO WE, RATHER THAN TAKING SOME OF THAT STUFF OUT FOR BID, IT WAS DONE IN-HOUSE BY, YOU KNOW, DIFFERENT PEOPLE BUT AT DIFFERENT TIMES.
BUT IT SEEMS TO, WE ALWAYS RUN INTO SOME KIND OF ISSUE.
WELL, AND, AND AGAIN, IT'S, IT IS PROBABLY GONNA RUN OVER THE 50,000 MARK.
OH, AS A WHOLE, THE PROJECT WITH THE ABATEMENT DE THAT'S YEAH, WE WE'RE, WE'RE KIND OF CIRCUMVENTING THE, THE STATE STATUTE BIDDING PROCESS BY PIECE TOGETHER, UM, AS WELL.
I THINK, LIKE I SAID, THE CARPET AND STUFF IN THE BEGINNING, THE WAY IT'S BEEN EXPLAINED TO ME, UH, WAS NOT NECESSARILY THAT THAT CARPET, WE HAD GOTTEN SUCH A GOOD DEAL ON THE STUFF UPSTAIRS.
WE WERE TRYING TO CAPTURE THAT AT THAT SAME PRICE.
SO THAT CARPET WAS PURCHASED AT THAT TIME.
IN FACT, THEY EVEN DIDN'T YOU SAY THEY RAN ANOTHER, UH, THEY, THEY, THERE WAS A DELAY ON ON MAKING A DECISION.
I I WANTED TO ASK THE QUESTION.
I WANTED ASK THIS CARPET WAS BUILT OUT, I BELIEVE YES, THERE ESTIMATE.
WE, WE CLOSE AT THE TIME AND JUST TO CLARIFY, AT THE TIME THERE WAS A LOT OF DISCUSSION.
WE'RE GONNA DROP THE CEILING, WE'RE GONNA DO THIS, WE'RE GONNA PAINT, YOU KNOW, BACK AND FORTH.
AND WE HAD, AND THE MANUFACTURER MAKING THAT CARPET AND SO CAR SAID THE PRICE GONE UP.
THEY NO LONGER MAKE THAT THE PRICE ALMOST DOUBLE OR WHATEVER.
I DON'T REMEMBER TWO YEARS OR WHATEVER.
BUT SO THEY WENT BACK TO THE FACTORY AND SAID, WE GET A BILL BY SAY FRIDAY OR NEXT DAY OR WHATEVER YOU THE START PROCESSING BILL CARBON AND THEY HAVE THAT SAME PROBLEM.
WELL THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S GREAT.
BUT LIKE I SAID, WE, I THINK WE NEED TO LOOK AT THIS, UM, GROUP THIS, YOU KNOW, THAT'S GONNA OVERSEE OUR PROJECTS AND GET IT FORMED SO THAT THESE PROJECTS DON'T JUST STALL OUT.
SO KNOW WHERE WE'RE GOING TWO OR THREE YEARS DOWN THE ROAD, GET 'EM BUDGETED, UM, YOU KNOW, RATHER THAN JUST PIECEMEALING AND INSTALLING OUT.
NOTHING GETS, CAN'T COMMENT ON THAT BUT I KNOW AT THE TIME WE JUST, THE UNKNOWN, THE VENDOR DID SAY STATE THAT IT'S THE INSULATED DISTRICT COST AND THEY FIND SOMEBODY ELSE THAT'S GONNA BE A PROBLEM.
AND IT, IT'S KIND OF TURNED OUT TO BE A PROBLEM.
BUT ANYWAY, THAT WAS, THAT WAS MY MAIN CONCERN IF THIS COMPANY WILL FINISH THE PROJECT BEFORE THE ESTIMATE.
AND AS FAR AS THE TIMELINE, UM, I KNOW WE CAN'T DO IT DURING TAX SEASON.
UM, I THINK WE SHOULD START, UH, LOOKING TO GET FEBRUARY SHUT DOWN FOR HOWEVER MANY DAYS.
PROBABLY GAVE US A COUPLE DIFFERENT SCENARIOS.
SEVEN DAYS STRAIGHT OR FIVE, FIVE WEEKEND SHIFTS.
AND AGAIN, YOU KNOW, THE COMMITTEE SHOULD, SHOULD LOOK AT THAT AND MAKE A DECISION.
ALL PARTIES INVOLVED INTO SOME OTHER LOCATIONS THAT PEOPLE CAN GET THEIR TAGS AND STUFF.
BUT IT, IT NEEDS TO MOVE FORWARD AND BECAUSE WE'VE GOT SOME ISSUES HERE.
OKAY, WELL, LOOKING AT YOUR AGENDA ITEM SAYS TO DISCUSS, CONSIDER
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PURCHASES MADE MATERIAL MODEL PROJECT CONTRACTS.I DUNNO THAT THAT SAYS ANYTHING ABOUT POINTING OF THE MEETING.
IT, IT DOES, LIKE I SAID THIS, I THINK WE'LL GIVE THE DA'S OFFICE SINCE SEE AS THE NEXT MEETING.
BUT THE POINT IS THAT WE'LL HAVE TO DO SOMETHING TO KEEP THIS TYPE OF STUFF ON TRACK.
AND MY QUESTION WAS THE, UH, THE VALIDITY OF THIS CONTRACT AND IF WE CAN GET THE, TO COMPLETE THE PROJECT OR THE COURT, HEY BOBBY, THE GUYS WERE COMING TO INSTALL THE, FOUND THE ISSUE.
SO THEY'RE AWARE OF THE SITUATION.
BUT WERE YOU STILL WILLING TO COME IN AND INSTALL THE CARPET? YES.
ONCE WE GET ALL OF OUR OTHER ISSUE RESOLVED, ABSOLUTELY.
THEY'RE WILLING TO COMPLETE THE CONTRACT FOR THE PROJECT FOR THE
THEY WERE WHENEVER WE WAS DOING THIS.
OKAY, SO WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO DO WITH THIS ITEM? WELL, THERE'S NO ACTION TO BE TAKEN OTHER THAN DISCUSS THE, THE, UM, THE LAPSE OF TIME GIVEN BETWEEN THE BID, POSSIBLY THE, THERE'S NO ACTION.
WELL, YEAH, THE TABLE, THERE'S NO ACTION.
MAKE EVERYBODY AWARE THAT, YOU KNOW, WE ARE STALLING.
YEAH, I MAKE A MOTION TO, UH, TABLE ADAM NUMBER EIGHT.
ALRIGHT, WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER ROSA TO TABLE ITEM NUMBER EIGHT.
ALRIGHT, ITEM NUMBER NINE IS TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER PURCHASING VIOLATIONS RELATED TO COUNTY JUDGE'S APPROVAL, UH, PURCHASES OVER $25,000.
THIS WAS ALSO PLACED ON THE AGENDA BY COMMISSIONER
UH, WE DISCUSSED THIS, EXCUSE ME, THIS IN THE PREVIOUS MEETING, THE PURCHASE AND THE MOVING THE BUILDINGS, UH, DID GO OVER OUR $25,000 IMAGE.
AND I HAD A DISCUSSION WITH THE DA'S OFFICE ABOUT THAT.
AND UH, AGAIN, THEY, THEY SUGGESTED THAT, UH, UH, WE REFERRED TO OUR PURCHASING POLICY AND IN THAT IT DID NOT GO OVER THE $50,000 LIMIT, WHICH HAD TO BE, UM, BUDGETED AND AUTHORIZED BY COMMISSIONER COURT.
SO THE, THE QUESTION IS, IS WHY WE HAVE BEEN TOLD FOR YEARS AND YEARS THAT ANYTHING OVER 25,000 HAD TO COME TO COURT.
UH, PERSON, NATHAN, UM, AGREED TO THAT IN THAT PREVIOUS MEETING.
SO THERE'S NO VIOLATION OF STATE STATUTE HERE.
APPARENTLY THERE'S NO VIOLATION OF POLICY EITHER, RIGHT? BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE A 25,000, WELL, EVEN, EVEN IF THAT, IF YOU WANNA CALL IT VALID, NOT VALID, WHATEVER, WE DID NOT EXCEED THE 25,000 ON THIS.
THEY WERE TWO TOTALLY DIFFERENT PURCHASES.
I I PROVIDED THE DOCUMENTATION AND THE INVOICES, UH, MATTER OF FACT, YES, YOU KNOW, WE DID, IT WAS $30,080, BUT IT WASN'T, IT WAS, WE RECEIVED REBIDS ON BUILDINGS, WHICH TWO OF THOSE INCLUDED RENTAL, REMOVING THE THIRD ONE DID NOT.
AND THE OTHER ONE WAS BIDS FROM MOVING SERVICES ON THAT.
AND WE DID NOT EXTEND THE 25,000.
WELL, AS A PROJECT WE DID, AND AGAIN, YOU KNOW, I SIGNED, YOU KNOW, BOTH THE GOVERNMENT CODE, UH, AND, AND THE PAGE NUMBERS IN OUR PURCHASING POLICY.
UH, YOU KNOW, PAGE FIVE, PAGE 20 AND PAGE 32 DISCUSSING THE AUTHORITY AND UNBUDGETED CAPITAL, UH, EXPENDITURES.
AND, AND WE DISCUSSED THAT LAST TIME.
WELL, UH, OPINION OF, UH, MR. ALLISON IS THERE'S BEEN NO, EVEN THE POLICY HAS NOT BEEN VIOLATED.
WE HAVE AN OPINION FROM HIM BECAUSE I HAD NUMEROUS OPINIONS FROM PURCHASING AGENTS ACROSS THE STATE.
THERE WAS NO, IT WAS TWO SEPARATE TOTALLY SEPARATE THINGS ONE VENDOR WAS FOR AND THEY SAID UNLESS THE SCHOOL WAS MOVING IT THEN NO.
IT WAS TWO SEPARATE PURCHASES.
THEN WE DID NOT EXCEED THE 25,000 CORRECT.
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PURCHASE AND MOVE.WE HAVE A MOTION FROM MR.
UH, MR. SHANE, COMMISSIONER SHANE SECOND OF THE MOTION IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
NUMBER 10 IS TO DISCUSS, CONSIDER AN ANNEX REPAIR AND REMODEL THE TIMELINE AND COST, INCLUDING BIDS RECEIVED AND PURCHASES MADE.
YEAH, THIS IS MY ITEM THAT RELAYING TO ITEM NUMBER EIGHT.
UM, MAYBE FORM COMMITTEE, WHICH WOULD FIT? I WOULD IT NOT, WELL WHAT I'M READING HERE IS DISCUSS, CONSIDER THE INEX REPAIR AND REMODEL TIMELINE COST, INCLUDING KIDS RECEIVED, THE PURCHASES MADE.
IT'S, IT'S A GENERAL ITEM, BUT HONESTLY THERE'S NO MENTION OF ANY KIND OF APPOINT A COMMITTEE OR EXECUTIVE PLANNING COMMITTEE TO OVERSEE THAT.
WELL, SO I THINK I'LL BE ON THE SAFE SIDE.
I WOULD WANT AN AGENDA ITEM THAT'S A MORE SPECIFIC, SO WE'LL, WE'LL DISCUSS, UH, SETTING THE TIMELINE TO COST.
Y'ALL THINK WE SHOULD DO THAT? DO, DO WE, DO WE NEED A TIMELINE IN ORDER TO GET THIS PROJECT FINISHED? CONSTRUCTION A TIMELINE IN ORDER TO GET, UH, FINISHED? WELL, I WOULD THINK ALL CONTRACT, WE DON'T HAVE A CONTRACT ACCORDING TO THE DA'S OFFICE.
WE, IF I MAY INTERJECT HERE, IS THAT BECAUSE WE HAVE AN ISSUE WITH THE ASBESTOS, WE, WE PURCHASED THE CARPET, WE HAVE AN ESTIMATE THAT APPEARS TUR WILL HONOR AWARE OF THAT INSTALL THE CARPET WHENEVER IT'S, IT'S, UM, NEEDED.
BUT WE HAVE AN ISSUE WITH THE ASBESTOS REMEDIATION DEBATE.
AND SO MY UNDERSTANDING IN TALKING IS THAT THE COMMISSION MAY BE INTERESTED IN TALKING WITH YOU, COMMISSIONER'S COURT MAY BE INTERESTED IN SETTING UP A COMMITTEE THAT WE LOOKING AT WHAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN OR, UM, ATION THE ASBESTOS AND SOME OF THOSE ISSUES RELATED TO THE BUILDING SO THAT YOU ALL COULD MAKE, SO THE COUNTY COULD MAKE.
SO WHY IS PLANNING CHOICES IN GETTING THE ASBE REMEDIATED AS EFFICIENTLY AND ECONOMICALLY AS POSSIBLE SO THAT THEN WE CAN HONOR THE AGREEMENTS THAT WE HAVE THE ESTIMATE COMING IN AND LAY A CARPET.
SO IT'S DIFFICULT TO SET A TIMELINE WITHOUT SOMEBODY.
WELL THE HOLD UP IS THE ABATEMENT BECAUSE WE HAVE TO CLOSE THE TAX OFFICE.
AND, AND I KNOW WE DON'T NEED TO DO THAT WHEN WE'RE COLLECTING OUR PROPER TAXES IN JANUARY.
AND POSSIBLY IN THE FEBRUARY, SO.
AND WE ALSO, WE HAVE TO BE AWARE, THERE'S LOT OF GUIDELINES, A LOT OF EPA REGULATIONS.
SO WE HAVE TO A GOOD CONTRACT.
THERE'S A LITTLE BIT MORE TO IT.
SO IF, UM, IF YOU WANTED TO TALK ABOUT A TIMELINE FOR MAYBE GETTING THAT COMMITTEE APPOINTED AND SETTING SOME, SOME, UM, TARGET DATES FOR THAT WORK TO BE DONE SO THAT YOU'RE NOT IN A STAGNANT POSITION, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WOULD CERTAINLY FALL UNDER THAT AGENDA ITEM TODAY.
UH, THAT'S, THAT'S A GREAT IDEA.
UM, I WOULD, I'LL SUGGEST MAYBE FEBRUARY 1ST, UM, WOULD BE A TARGET DATE.
HAVE THE COMMITTEE TO HAVE A COMMITTEE APPOINTED AND HAVE THEM MAKE SOME DECISION TO BRING THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT BY FEBRUARY 15TH, UM, SO THAT THEY CAN HAVE A COMPANY, UM, HAVE COMPANIES BID ON IT AND THEN WE COULD REVIEW THE BID BY POSSIBLY FEBRUARY 15TH AND, AND GET STARTED ON IT BY MARCH 1ST.
DOES THAT SOUND REASONABLE? THAT'S WHERE BEST, BOBBY, HE ALREADY HAS BEDS ON ALL THIS.
WE JUST, WE JUST NEED TO GET STARTED ON MEAN.
MR. BRIDGES, WHERE ARE YOU BACK THERE? DON'T YOU STAND UP AND TELL US WHAT YOU HAVE WITH MR. BRIDGES IN, TRY TO SET THE TIMELINE TO WORK WITH YOUR AGENDA ITEM? YEAH, SO CURRENTLY WE HAVE THREE BIDS ON THE ASBESTOS SEGMENT.
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WHAT THEY WERE SAYING WAS IT'S GONNA BE FIVE TO SEVEN DAYS TO DO THE ABATEMENT.AND THAT'S STRAIGHT DAYS OR FIVE WEEKEND SHIFTS IN ORDER TO GET IT ALL DONE.
THE WEEKEND SHIFTS BASICALLY DOUBLE THE COST, ALMOST TRIPLE THE COST BECAUSE YOU'RE HAVING TO SET UP TEAR DOWN, SET UP, TEAR DOWN FIVE WEEKENDS IN A ROW.
YOU HAVE TO PAY FOR AIR QUALITY MONITORING FIVE TIMES THIS WAY.
UM, SO BASICALLY WHAT WE'RE, WE HAVE THE ESTIMATES WE SUBMITTED TO LISA.
UM, WE JUST NEED TO KNOW WHEN, WHEN YOU WANT TO DO IT, YOU KNOW, UM, I DID TALK TO GEORGE ABOUT THIS AND HE WAS TELLING ME THAT, UH, THE TAX COLLECTION STUFF IS NOW CLOUD BASED.
SO BASICALLY YOU COULD ACTUALLY MOVE THIS COLLECTION OF TAXES TO ANOTHER LOCATION AND STILL BE ABLE TO PROCEED WITH THAT.
UM, BUT OUTSIDE OF THAT, WE JUST NEED, WE JUST GET KNOW WHEN YOU WANNA SHUT THIS DOWN.
'CAUSE OBVIOUSLY THE CHEAPEST WAY TO DO IT'S FIVE, FIVE TO SEVEN DAYS STRAIGHT.
A TON OF MONEY THAT SOUND REASONABLE TO THE ION COURT TO SET THAT TIMELINE.
WELL I THINK BOBBY, HE'S HE'S THE GUY BE HIS DECISION, BUT THE TAX OFFICE, WELL, I SEE IT, IT ALSO AFFECTS THE PEOPLE.
I BELIEVE THAT THIS IS WHAT WE HIRED THE CAR AS THE KIND OF GUIDELINES AND WE ALSO HAVE THE TREASURER'S OFFICE AND WELL, HE CAN, HE CAN DETERMINE THAT ALSO COORDINATOR.
WE HAVE, WE DON'T NEED A COMMITTEE.
JUST LET HIM DO HIS JOB, GET IT DONE.
WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT DONE BY MARCH 1ST.
AND, UM, UH, THINK TIMING IS IMPORTANT.
UH, YOU KNOW, IT DOES AFFECT, YOU KNOW, MY SMALL DEPARTMENT ALSO.
UH, YOU MENTIONED THAT AND YOU KNOW, THE, YOU KNOW, LAST AUGUST OR SEPTEMBER, SO 15 OR 16 MONTHS AGO NOW, I THINK YOU AND I JUST TALKED ABOUT, UH, SHAMPOOING THE CARPETS IN OUR AREA BECAUSE, UH, THIS LOWER PART OF THE BUILDING HAS ERODED INFESTATION.
AND SO WE'VE GOT RODENT URINE AND RODENT DROPPINGS THAT ARE, THAT ARE EMBEDDED IN, IN THIS, THIS CARPET.
AND UM, YOU KNOW, WE, I THINK WE WERE ENCOURAGED WHEN THE CARPET WAS FIRST PURCHASED, UH, LAST SEPTEMBER, SEPTEMBER OF 30TH OF 15.
AND, AND COMMISSIONER ZALE'S, RIGHT? YOU KNOW, IT, IT'S KIND OF GOTTEN ON HIGH CENTER AND I RESPECT EVERYBODY'S TIME.
BUT, UM, IT DOES BECOME A, A BIT OF A HEALTH ISSUE FOR OUR EMPLOYEES DOWN HERE AND CERTAINLY AN AESTHETIC ISSUE FROM ALL OF THE TAX PAYERS THAT COME INTO THESE OFFICES.
SO WHATEVER INFLUENCE THE COURT CAN HAVE IN, UH, EXPEDITING, I THINK WILL MANURE TO THE BENEFIT OF THE TAXPAYERS AND THE EMPLOYEES THAT USE THIS, UH, LOWER PART OF THE FACILITY.
AND, YOU KNOW, AND I DO THINK THAT IT IS, YOU KNOW, IT IS A PROJECT.
I THINK THERE'S OTHER, WE'VE DONE A LOT OF THINGS ALREADY AND I BELIEVE THERE'S OTHER THINGS THAT NEED TO BE DONE.
SO I, I WOULD ASK THAT THE COURT LOOK AT THIS AS A $50,000 PROJECT AND, UH, APPROACH IT THAT WAY.
I THINK WHEN YOU LOOK AT IT AS A, AS A TOTAL PROJECT, UM, UM, THE PLANNING AND FOUNDATIONAL ASSISTANCE THAT'S MADE ON THOSE TYPE PROJECTS, UH, BUILDS MORE INFORMATION, UH, LEARNS WHAT DIFFERENT PEOPLE'S GOALS AND OBJECTIVES ARE AND THAT WHEN WE FINISH THE PROJECT, UH, EXPEDITIOUSLY, WE'LL ACHIEVE SOME LONG TERM OBJECTIVES.
AND I, I WANT TAKE 30 SECONDS AND COMPLIMENT THIS COURT FOR ALL OF THE PROGRESS THAT'S BEING MADE IN THE COUNTY BUILDINGS.
I WANT TO COMPLIMENT BOBBY BRIDGES FOR HIS DILIGENCE AND HIS SKILL AND, BUT IT'S THE COMMITMENT OF THIS COURT THAT HAS, UM, STARTED THE REMODEL HERE.
I KNOW PRECINCT BUILDINGS HAVE BEEN CHANGED AND UPGRADED AND I KNOW THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY THERE'S THINGS THAT ARE, ARE IN BETTER CONDITION THAN THEY'VE BEEN IN IN MY 20 YEARS IN THIS COUNTY.
AND I JUST WANNA COMPLIMENT THIS COURT.
ALRIGHT, WHAT YOUR NUMBER IS THE, UH, THE COURT COMFORTABLE SETTING MARCH 1ST
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AIR MONITOR.DOES IT AFFECT UPSTAIRS TOO? YES.
SO BECAUSE IT'S ALL THE SAME AIR SYSTEM UPSTAIRS, IT MIGHT DO THAT.
BUT IT'S GONNA BE, IT GONNA BE IN MARCH OR DECEMBER OR 2018 OR WHATEVER YOU DO.
IT'S GONNA DO THAT SAME, ALL THE DEPARTMENTS GREAT DEAL OF COORDINATION DONE, COORDINATION MOVE.
AND PROBABLY THE EASIEST THING TO DO WILL BE TO MAYBE SOME OF THE DEPARTMENTS ARE UPSTAIRS, THEY CAN WORK ELSEWHERE DURING THAT TIME DOWNSTAIRS.
WELL HAVE TO MOVE BECAUSE WE'VE GOTTA INSTALL PARK IT.
BUT, UH, I DON'T KNOW THAT HAVING A SET DEADLINE IS WHAT WOULD I KNOW BOBBY, HE WANTS TO DO IT.
AND, UH, SO WHAT IS, WHAT IS YOUR ON ITEM NUMBER 1110 KERRY? WE SAY THAT PUT A MOTION, UH, YES.
UH, UH, MAKE A MOTION TO BE SET A DEADLINE FOR HAVING BIDS RECEIVED AND, UH, A PLAN OF ACTION BY MARCH 1ST.
DO WE HAVE A SECOND TO THAT MOTION? I HAVE A SECOND.
UH, COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS SECOND.
A MOTION, UH, DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? GOOD TO SEE US MAKE A MOVE ON NOW.
I JUST THINK THAT THEY NEED TO FOR OVER A YEAR AND IT NEEDS TO BE INSTALLED.
ALRIGHT, SO WE HAVE A MOTION OF A SECOND.
ITEM NUMBER 11 IS TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER JAIL AND IF BE AT THE COUNTY JAIL FLOOR, DRAIN PROBLEMS AND APPROVE OF BID BIDS, BAR REPAIRS.
AND COMMISSIONER ROSA COULD ASK, DISCUSS THIS AS WELL.
LAST, UH, COURT MEETING, WE SAW THE, THE BILLS FROM, UH, UH, MECHANICAL FOR FIXING FLOOR DRAINS.
AND AFTER THAT CHIEF AND I THINK IN THE MEETING CHIEF MADE THE COMMENT THAT WE HAD A LOT MORE TO GO.
OKAY, SO WE DID HOW MANY HEADS? WE FIXED TWO AS OF RIGHT NOW.
SO DID, DID ANYBODY RECEIVE THEIR SUPPORTING DOCUMENTATION ON THIS? THE OTHER, OKAY.
ALRIGHT, SO LAST MEETING WE OKAYED IN THE, THE BILLS TO PAY, UM, 3D ACCOUNT 22,000, $28 FOR FOUR REPAIRING FOUR DRAINS OF BEE POCKET.
AND THEY REPAIRED, THEY HAVE NOT REPAIRED YET.
SO WE, WE GOT A PURCHASE ORDER AND A CHECK WAS ISSUED.
SO HOW, HOW DID WE, UH, REPAIR? WE HAVE NOT MADE THE REPAIRS.
THAT'S WHAT I, OKAY, SO WE HAD A CHECK CHECK ISSUED BEFORE WE EVER GOT INVOICE.
HOW, HOW DOES THIS, HOW DOES THIS GET REPORTED TO THIS STATE? YOU GOT ME? I MEAN, SIGNED OFF? I DON'T KNOW.
SO ONE THAT THE PAPERWORK WAS GIVEN TO ME AND I GAVE IT TO MY ASSISTANT TO TELL HIM TO INCLUDE THAT WHEN WE GOT THE INVOICE.
THAT THEY PREPARED A CHECK AND I CALLED THE TREASURER.
HE WAS SITTING ON THE CHECK BECAUSE Y'ALL WERE UPSET ABOUT IT.
WELL THE, THE, THE PROBLEM I SEE HERE IS THAT, OR ONE OF THE PROBLEMS IS AGAIN, THIS IS GONNA EXCEED THE $50,000.
HOW, HOW'S IT GONNA EXCEED 50,000? WELL YOU'VE GOT FOUR A QUOTE HERE FOR REPAIRING FOUR DRAINS BETWEEN 2000 AND YOU SAID WE HAVE SEVERAL MORE, SO NO, I SAID THAT THERE'LL BE SEVERAL MORE TO GO.
SO THIS IS WHAT WE'RE FIXING RIGHT NOW.
UNDER JAIL STANDARDS, WE MEET A MINIMUM STANDARDS AND WE GOTTA MAINTAIN THAT MINIMUM.
THAT'S WHY WE'RE FIXING, I SAID THE WAY THE BUILDING IS MOVING, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO FIX THEM.
IT DIDN'T EVEN MAKE THE 25,000 TO COME TO Y'ALL.
I KNOW, BUT AS A PROJECT OF FIXING FLOOR DRAINS, IT'S GOING TO EXCEED.
IT'S A THOUSAND MARK, NOT IT, IT IS NOT UNTIL THEY HAPPEN AND THEY HADN'T HAPPENED YET.
I'M TELLING YOU, THAT'S WHY I GAVE YOU NOTICE THAT THE FLOORS ARE MOVING OUT THERE AND WE'RE GONNA CONTINUE TO KEEP HAVING THIS PROBLEM.
WELL NEXT, NEXT YEAR, A YEAR AFTER ANOTHER MOVE AND, AND WE'LL GO FIX THAT ONE TO
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STANDARD.YOU'RE NOT SAYING AIN'T BROKE YET.
IT'S GONNA BE A CONTINUING PROBLEM.
A CONTINUING PROBLEM NEXT 20 YEARS.
OKAY, SO, SO THE PROJECT, YOU'RE SAYING THE DRAIN, TOTAL DRAIN PROJECT IS NOT GONNA EXCEED 50,000 NO.
NO, BECAUSE WE'RE, WE'RE JUST NOW FIXING THESE.
WELL, I UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT BUT YOU'RE FIXING FOUR OF THEM FOR 22,000.
AND YOU GOT, HOW MANY MORE DRAINS DO YOU HAVE TOTAL? TOTAL? I BET YOU THERE'S PROBABLY ABOUT 250 DRAINS.
YEAH, BUT THEY'RE NOT BROKEN, EXPECTED TO FAIL.
WELL, I MEAN IT'S LIKE ANYTHING.
IT'S LIKE YOUR TRUCKS, I MEAN TIRES, ANYTHING.
LISA, IS THIS, DOES THIS FALL UNDER A PURCHASING POLICY? THERE'S NONE.
BUT LIKE HE'S SAYING FAR AS PANEL, NO, BECAUSE IF IT, IF IT AIN'T BROKE ON FIX IT.
I MEAN THAT'S, IF THERE'S NOT SOMETHING YES, THEY MAY BE PENDING.
HE'S JUST MAKING EVERYONE AWARE THAT IT WOULD BE AN ISSUE IN THE FUTURE.
NOW IF BUILDING SHIFTS ALL OF A SUDDEN AND THEY HAVE, YOU KNOW, EIGHT OF THEM BREAK, THEY WOULD EXCEED THAT, THEN WE WOULD HAVE TO BID THAT OUT.
ARE ARE THESE FOUR HERE BROKEN NOW? YES.
AND THEY HAVEN'T FIXED HIM OR THEY FIXED TWO? NO, THAT'S BECAUSE ALL THIS COME UP AND YOU AND THAT'S WHAT WE TOLD 'EM TO HOLD OFF AND YOU BID.
AND LISA, DO YOU HAVE, CAN YOU TELL US WHAT THE OTHER BIDS WERE? YES, YOU GOT SOME, I KNOW THE DOCUMENTS I GAVE YOU.
THE FIRST ONE IS 3D ACCOUNTABLE, UH, THE SECOND ONE'S BNL FUND.
AND THEN THE THIRD ONE'S FROM AN EMAIL FROM EARLY.
AND THEN THE LAST ONE, WHICH IS A PLUS PLUMBING.
AND THEN THE OTHER DOCUMENT AFTER THAT IS WHAT WE SPENT OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS, UH, FROM 2008 TO 2017, SO FAR WHAT WE'VE BEEN OUTTA REPAIRS AND REPLACEMENT.
AND THEN IN THE VERY BACK YOU'LL SEE WHERE THEY DID REPAIR, UH, 3D ACCOUNT WHERE YOU CAN SEE THE BILL AND THE DETAILING EXACTLY WHAT THEY DID AND HOW THEY PUT IT BACK TO STANDARDS AND ALL THE DOCUMENTATION ARE, WELL MY QUESTION IS, WE HAVE ONE BID HERE FOR 32 50 PER DRAIN.
WE HAVE ANOTHER BID HERE FOR 4,700 PER DRAIN.
THEN WE HAVE ANOTHER BID FOR 25 58 PER DRAIN.
AND THEN THE 3D BILL THAT WE ALREADY PAID WERE, WERE THE PROCESSING WAS FOR 55 0 7 PER GRAND.
AND THE, THE COMPANY THAT THE CHECK WAS ALREADY ISSUED TO HAS A ONE YEAR WARRANTY.
THE COMPANY THAT DID, UM, 25 50 HALF OF THAT HAD A TWO YEAR WARRANTY.
IS IT NOT IN THE COUNTY'S BEST INTEREST TO TAKE THE LOWEST VEHICLE? NO, NOT IN THIS POINT.
NOT IN THE SAFETY AND SECURITY OF THE JAIL FACILITY, BUT DEALING WITH THE JAIL COMMISSION.
YOU'LL ALSO READ THIS, LET'S GO BACK TO THE DETAILS THAT YOU TALKED ABOUT IN CONTRACTS AND BIDS.
OKAY? THIS GOES INTO, UH, PER YARD.
THEY'RE ONLY SAYING TWO YARDS.
I I BELIEVE THERE'S MORE THAN THAT IN THERE.
UH, THEY DIDN'T EVEN COME OUT, THEY DIDN'T EVEN TELL US THE HOLE AND WHICH SIZE THEY'RE GONNA CUT.
THERE'S VERY LITTLE DETAILS IN THIS.
SO THIS IS THE REASON WHY WE DIDN'T FOLLOW THIS ONE IS BECAUSE THE LACK OF DETAILS, THE LACK OF INFORMATION, WHICH I DON'T BELIEVE THEY MET THE SPECS OF THE BEDS THAT WE ASKED FOR.
UH, THIS IS NOT A DETAILED REPORT.
I, I GUARANTEE WHEN THIS BID COME IN, THEY, IT WOULD CHANGE EXACTLY WHAT THEY GIVE US BECAUSE IT'S NOT DETAILED ENOUGH TO GIVE US THAT.
AND WE HAD THEM COME OUT AND LOOK AT IT AND EXPLAIN IT TO EVERYBODY WE DID THIS TO.
AND YOU CAN SEE THE DETAILS ON END OF THE REPORT.
I JUST DON'T GO OFF A WARRANTY.
I GO OFF OF WHAT'S THE BEST THAT WILL FIT THAT JAIL TO MEET THE MINIMUM STANDARDS OF THE SECURITY OF THAT JAIL.
SO YOU FEEL LIKE THAT THEY WOULDN'T, UM, CUT THE HOLE.
THEY WOULDN'T REMOVE AND PATCH THE CONCRETE AND THEY WOULDN'T HAND DIG.
AND, AND THEY GOT A, A, UM, LINE ITEM IN THERE FOR DIFFICULT ACCESS THAT THEY, UM, ACCOUNTED FOR.
WHERE HAVE YOU HAD TO REPLACE WATER DRAIN PIPE? EXCUSE ME.
UP TO FIVE FEET IS A DRAIN DEEPER THAN FIVE FEET? UH, THE LAST ONE WE DID WAS SIX AND A HALF.
AND THEN REPLACE TWO DRAIN FITTINGS.
SO IN YOUR ESTIMATE, BUT DOES IT TELL YOU WHAT SIZE HOLE IT NEEDED TO BE? UH, I DON'T SEE ANY SPECS
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ANYWHERE, EVEN FOR DOES ANY OF THE OTHERS HAVE A DETAILED HOLE SIZE? YEAH, SURE.IF YOU'LL LOOK AT THREE, THE VERY, UH, FIRST ONE, ONCE WE ASK THEM WHAT SIZE WE NEED TO CUT THIS HOLE TO MAKE SURE WE GET TO CEMENT BACK IN TO GET IT HARDENED.
TO GET IT BACK TO MEETING JAIL STANDARDS.
WELL, I'M SURE THAT YOU DON'T, YOU DON'T THINK THAT THIS COMPANY WOULD POUR THE CONCRETE THE SAME DEPTH THAT EXISTING CONCRETE IS? WELL, I DON'T KNOW.
NEVER HAD A WORKING RELATIONSHIP WITH THEM.
AND THE BIG THING ABOUT THIS IS ALSO TALKED WITH BOBBY AND ALL THESE THAT WE TALKED ABOUT AND HE BELIEVED WE MADE THE BEST DECISION.
BOBBY, IS THAT TRUE? I'M SORRY, WHAT WAS THAT? I WAS LOOKING, DO YOU FEEL LIKE THAT THIS, UH, QUOTE THAT WAS TWICE AS MUCH AS THE, UH, THE CHEAPEST QUOTE WOULD BE A BETTER VALUE FOR THE COUNTY.
DO, DO YOU NOT FEEL LIKE THAT THESE OTHER PLUMBING COMPANIES WOULD POUR THE CONCRETE BACK TO THE SAME DEPTH AND SAME SPECIFICATIONS THAT'S THERE? I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THAT.
I MEAN, I DO KNOW THAT THREE D'S PREPARED SOME OUT IN THE PAST.
AND THEIR REPAIRS HAVE BEEN UP TO STANDARD.
YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? THESE, THESE OTHER COMPANIES THAT ARE HERE THAT BRIAN HAS QUOTES ON, I KNOW NOTHING ABOUT EXCEPT B AND L PLUMBING AND HAVE, HAVE WE HAD BAD EXPERIENCES WITH ANY OTHER PLUMBING COMPANY THAT'S WORKED FOR THE COUNTY? I I HAVE NOT.
I'M JUST CURIOUS THOUGH ON THIS IS WHENEVER, HOW IS THIS ANY DIFFERENT THAN SOME OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT HAVE COME IN AND THAT HAVE EXCEEDED THE 25,000 AND WE COME TO COURT AND SOME OF THE IS WELL, THAT'S THE KEY.
WE CAME TO COURT TO DISCUSS IT.
WELL HE, HE, HE ALREADY ADMITTED THAT THE TOTAL PROJECTS GONNA BE, THERE'S NO 40 DRAINS OF 5,000.
BUT WE'RE NOT, WE, WE DON'T FIX IT UNLESS I UNDERSTAND THAT.
BUT MY POINT BEING, WHENEVER WE DO HAPPEN TO BRING SOMEBODY TO COURT, THAT IS, THAT DOES NEED TO OUR POLICY AND WE END UP GOING WITH A MORE EXPENSIVE BID, IT'S BECAUSE THE END USER, SUCH AS THE JAIL, THEY, THEY EXPLAINED TO THE COURT AS TO WHY, WHAT IT IS THAT THEY NEED.
THAT THEY FEEL LIKE THAT THAT HIGHER BID, JUST LIKE MS. HUGHES AND HER CABINETS, HER SHOWING THAT THAT WAS, IT WAS MORE EXPENSIVE THAN THE OTHERS THAT SHE EXPRESSED.
SHE HAD, SHE HAD SPECIFICATIONS FOR WAIT MINUTES AND ALL THAT THAT SHE WANTED.
AND SHE FELT THAT, THAT THAT WAS A BETTER FIT FOR HER AND, AND SHE CAME TO COURT WITH APPROVED IT.
I MEAN THAT'S KIND WHAT I MEAN, YOU'RE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT A PRETTY SIMPLE JOB CUT A HOLE IN A CONCRETE.
IT'S NOT SIMPLE WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT JAIL STANDARDS AND MEET THEM AND WE HAVE TO SEND ALL THIS DOCUMENTATION.
YOU KEEP DOING THE JAIL STANDARDS.
WHAT ARE YOU REFERRING TO? THE JAIL STANDARDS.
THEY'RE THE ONE THAT GIVES OUR CERTIFICATES.
WELL, I UNDERSTAND THAT, BRIAN.
YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT CUTTING A HOLE IN A CONCRETE, YOU CANNOT CUT ANYTHING INSIDE THAT FACILITY WITHOUT APPROVAL OF JAIL STANDARDS.
SO THREE D'S NOT GONNA CUT A HOLD, HUH? YES, BUT WE HAVE TO SUBMIT ALL THIS TO THEM AND TELL OUR JAIL INSPECTOR EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE DOING.
HOW IS ONE COMPANY DIFFERENT FROM NOTHING? WE'RE NOT GONNA TELL WHAT THE OTHER COMPANY, IF YOU WOULD BE MORE GLAD TO LOOK AT THIS PRICE, WHEN YOU SEND THIS TO 'EM AND YOU GIVE THIS TO 'EM, LOOK AT ALL THE DETAIL AND HOW THIS IS AND OUR JAIL STANDARDS LIKE THIS.
NOW IF I SEND HIM THIS ONE WITH JUST A CURSIVE AND ALL THIS STUFF IN THERE, HE AIN'T GOING TO, HE'S GONNA BE SENDING ME TONS OF STUFF, ASKING ME MORE QUESTIONS.
YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT JAIL STANDARDS AND YOU HAVE TO NOTIFY THEM ANYTIME.
WELL I UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT YOU'RE GONNA KNOW THE FINE NO MATTER IF SOMEBODY'S GONNA DO IT FOR 2,500 OR 55, I'M GONNA NOTIFY HIM.
BUT I GOTTA GIVE 'EM ALL DETAILS.
WELL, THE DETAIL OF CUTTING THE HOLE IN THE FLOOR AND REPLACING REPAIRING THE DRAIN PIPE IS NOT DETAILED.
IT'S NOT, I'M TELLING YOU IT HAS TO GO BACK TO THE ORIGINAL WHATEVER VEHICLE.
IF IT'S SIX INCH CONCRETE, YOU FOUR SIX INCH CONCRETE AND, AND SO YOU'RE, YOU'RE UH, YOU'RE SAYING THAT YOU DON'T THINK THE OTHER COMPANIES WOULD REPAIR THE, THE DRAIN TO THE SAME SPECIFICATIONS THAT THEY REMOVED IT FROM.
THEY DIDN'T GIVE US THAT DETAILED INFORMATION IN THERE.
DID NOT GIVE THE WHOLE SIZE AND EVERYTHING.
AND I'M GONNA GO OFF WHAT IS PROVIDED TO ME WHEN WE GIVE, WE'RE PAYING, WE'RE PAYING TWICE THE AMOUNT BECAUSE THE WHOLE SIDE MENTIONED SURE.
AND THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT I'VE GOTTA BASE MY STUFF OFF.
JUST LIKE YOU STATED ON OTHER CONTRACTS, GOOD BID INFORMATION AND I'M GOING TO GO OFF THAT EVERY TIME.
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WASTING THE COUNTY MONEY LIKE THAT, YOU'VE GOT FOUR YEARS TO DO IT.SO I DON'T, I DON'T BELIEVE IT'S WASTING TAX AS LONG AS PERSON, AGENT, UH, AND, AND THE AUDITOR AGREE WITH YOU OR JUST THAT, THAT'S WHY WE CAN'T FIX OUR COUNTY ROADS BECAUSE WE'RE PAYING DOUBLE AMOUNT REPAIRS AND ALL KINDS OF STUFF ALL OVER THE COUNTY.
I MEAN THIS, IF YOU'VE GOT 40 DRAINS THAT YOU'RE GONNA PAY $200,000 TO FIX, IF YOU'RE GOING TO PAY TWICE THAT AMOUNT, THAT'S A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS OVER WHAT WE COULD GET IT DONE FOR.
WELL YOU'RE LOOKING AT REPAIRING FIVE OR SIX MILES OF COUNTY ROADS.
I DON'S I DON'T LOOK AT COUNTY ROADS.
I LOOK AT WHAT'S THE BEST INTEREST OF THE COUNTY BECAUSE WE HAVE TO BUY THE BEST INTEREST OF THE COUNTY.
WE HAVE TO BUY YOU $50,000 TAHOES.
BUT YOU SAID THE CHARGERS WON'T HOLD UP BECAUSE OF OUR COUNTY ROADS.
AS LONG AS WE KEEP WASTING MONEY, WE'LL NEVER BE ABLE TO FIX OUR COUNTY ROADS TO HELP OUR CITIZENS AND, AND EVEN OURSELVES.
COMMISSIONER, WOULD YOU LIKE TO PUT THIS IN THE FORM OF A MOTION? WHATEVER YOU'D LIKE TO HAVE HERE.
WELL, I WOULD UH, I WOULD THINK THAT, UH, THE, THE MOTION WOULD BE FOR, FOR UH, AND, AND YOU CAN LET THE STATE STATUTE, THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT IS RESPONSIBLE FOR FIXING ALL THE BUILDINGS IN THE COUNTY AND ALL ALL FACILITIES.
AM I RIGHT? YOU'RE AWARE THAT ALRIGHT.
I I WOULD I MAKE THE MOTION THAT ANY FURTHER, UM, REPAIRS THAT THE JAIL WOULD BE BROUGHT BEFORE COMMISSIONER'S COURT BEFORE BIDS ARE APPROVED BY THE, UM, BY THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT? YEAH.
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER ZA.
DO WE HAVE A SECOND? HAVE A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER SHANE, BEFORE WE VOTE, YOU WANNA SAY SOMETHING I JUST SAID? I MEAN, WHY DO WE HAVE A PURCHASING POLICY? ARE WE NOT GONNA GO BY THAT? ARE WE GONNA BE THE ONLY DEPARTMENT AGAINST THAT HELD AGAINST THAT STANDARD? WELL, YOU'RE GONNA BE HELD TO IT.
I'M ALREADY, I'M ALREADY LISTED THAT THIS PROJECT'S GONNA EXCEED 50,000.
WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE TABLE.
DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER, UH, DISCUSSION? THE COMMISSIONERS ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
UH, THE NEXT ITEM IS NUMBER 12 AND THAT IS TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER AMENDING THE PERSONNEL POLICY TO INCLUDE THE ORGANIZATIONAL STRUCTURE BY COURT DATED MARCH 28TH, 2016.
AND COMMISSIONER EXOTIC ASKED THIS BE ON TODAY, EVERYBODY GET A COPY OF THIS, UH, ORGANIZATIONAL FLOW CHART WAS, UM, THE ORIGINAL ONE WAS PASSED THE COMMISSIONER COURT DO THE, UH, COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS'S HARD WORK ON GETTING IMPLEMENTED AND, AND SET UP? UH, WE DO NEED TO AMEND IT, UH, BECAUSE COLLECTIONS IS NOW GONNA BE UNDER THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.
IS EVERYBODY COMFORTABLE WITH THAT? WITH THE NEW CHARGE? OKAY.
AND IT'S REALLY INVALUABLE UNLESS WE ENTER IT INTO OUR PERSONNEL POLICY.
AND I, TIFFANY, WOULD YOU LIKE TO DISCUSS THAT? UM, IT, IT WAS BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION THAT IT WASN'T INCLUDED IN THE PERSONNEL POLICY AND I DON'T SEE ANY PROBLEM WITH IT BEING HOW LONG IS IT'S AMENDED AND UPDATED AND I DON'T, I DON'T SEE A PROBLEM WITH IT BEING ADDED TO THE PERSONAL POLICY.
AND I WOULD SUPPOSE IT COULD BE AMENDED AS THE COUNTY CHANGES DOWN THE WAY AS WELL.
ALRIGHT, WE HAVE A MOTION CONCERNING MS. HAPPENS MOTION.
COMMISSIONER ALLEN SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER
A I JUST WANNA CLARIFY BECAUSE THE COMMISSIONER WALKED BACK THE STEPS THAT THE MOTION WAS TO ACCEPT THE AMENDED ORGANIZATIONAL CHARGE AND THEN APPLY THAT.
ITEM NUMBER 13, I BELIEVE NOW IS TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDERE OPTIONS FOR KAUFMAN COUNTY TO COLLECT MONEY OWED BY RESIDENTS OF JESSE KEL COURT DRIVE IN PRECINCT ONE FOR IMPROVEMENTS DONE PURSUANT TO TRANSPORTATION CODE 2 53.
YEAH, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S KIND OF BEEN HANGING OUT THERE FOR A WHILE.
UM, IT WAS STARTED BY COMMISSIONER CLARK WHEN THESE ROADS WERE ACTUALLY IN HIS PRECINCT AND THEY, UH, HE WENT THROUGH THE, THE PROCESS CORRECTLY FOR THE TRANSPORTATION CODE CHAPTER 2 53.
AND THE, THE ROAD WAS EVENTUALLY FINISHED, BUT IT WAS AFTER THEY WERE
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MOVED INTO, OR THE, THE BOUNDARIES OF THE PRECINCTS WERE MOVED AND THEY BECAME PART OF MY PRECINCT.SO, UH, COLLECTIONS HAD NEVER BEEN INITIATED AND I TALKED TO DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AND, UH, WE DISCUSSED THE VARIOUS, UH, WAVES THAT COLLECTIONS COULD BE, UM, COULD BE IMPLEMENTED.
SO WE, UH, ARE HERE TO DISCUSS THAT AND, AND I THINK MAYBE THE, THE BEST WAY TO, TO IMPLEMENT THE COLLECTIONS WOULD BE THROUGH ONE OF OUR COLLECTIONS COMPANIES THAT DO COLLECTIONS FOR US.
SO, UM, I'D MAKE A MOTION TO CONFER AUTHORITY TO DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE TO RECEIVE QUOTES FOR OUTSIDE, UH, COLLECTION SERVICES RELATED TO PRECINCT ONE ROAD IMPROVEMENT, UH, PURSUANT TO TRANSPORTATION CODE 2 83.
DO WE HAVE A SECOND? USED TO BE YOURS NOW THEY'RE IN MY PRECINCT.
I USED TO OH, WE HAVE A SECOND.
UH, BEFORE WE VOTE THE DA'S OFFICE HAVE ANY COMMENTS THAT Y'ALL, THIS SEEMS LIKE A, REBECCA HAS A GOOD RELATIONSHIP WITH SEVERAL OF THE COLLECTION AGENCIES.
AND THE REASON, REASON IT WAS, IT WAS SAID TO GO THROUGH ONE OF THE COLLECTION AGENCIES IS BECAUSE REALLY THE TIME THAT YOU'LL PROBABLY BE COLLECTING THIS COULD BE 10, 15 YEARS FROM NOW, BE HONEST, BECAUSE IT'S LIKELY BE A LIEN ON PROPERTY OR THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO, UM, THAT'S JUST BE A WAY TO KEEP UP WITH, UM, WITH THE COLLECTION DONE.
NO MATTER WHO'S IN THE VA'S OFFICE, NO MATTER WHO DURING THE TIME PERIOD THAT THE MONEY'S ACTUALLY AVAILABLE, COLLECTED AND THE COLLECTION AGENCY OR SOMEBODY MONEY, IF THEY COLLECT MONEY, THEY INCENTIVE TO DO THAT.
AND, AND I DON'T THINK WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IT LARGE AMOUNT.
SO JUST A COLLECTION AGENCY WAS OUR THOUGHT.
AND THEN, UM, COUNTY MONEY, AND IT'S BEEN YEARS SINCE I THINK THIS, IT'S BEEN AT LEAST, YOU KNOW, FOUR YEARS HAVE GONE BY SINCE EVERYTHING'S BEEN DONE ABOUT COLLECTING, UM, THE MONEY THAT'S OWE.
WHAT ABOUT THE PEOPLE THAT STRANGE? IT'S AN OLD STRANGE ISSUE AND THAT'S WHY INSTEAD OF, HONESTLY, IN THE COUNTY RESOURCES AND TIME CHASING SOMETHING LIKE THIS, IT WOULD BE BETTER TO HAVE A COLLECTION AGENCY THAT GETS PAID A CONTINGENT FEE.
WE'RE NOT PAYING THEM MONEY, COLLECTING IT BY CONTINGENT ONLY WHAT WE TRY TO SET UP SO THAT WE CAN GO AFTER THE MONEY AND THERE'S ANY MONEY TO BE GOTTEN, THE COUNTY CAN GET THEIR SHARE.
AND, AND, AND ALSO THE PEOPLE ARE, ARE BEING BILLED FOR, UM, WHAT THEY OWE THE COUNTY, BUT WE'RE NOT, YOU KNOW, FILING A LAWSUIT, FILING YOU COURT.
WELL, THEY DON'T OWN HIM AND NOW ALL THEY SAY THEY, SO THAT MAY BE COLLECTIBLE.
AND THERE'S A TIME PERIOD THAT'S GONE BY.
THERE'S A STATUTE COULD BE A STATUTE OF LIMITATIONS ISSUE, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU'RE TALKING FOUR OR FIVE YEARS.
UM, YOU KNOW, AND SOMETIMES THERE'S NOT WHEN THE COUNTY'S INVOLVED.
SO IT MAY OR MAY NOT BE COLLECTIBLE.
WE HAVE NOT GONE IN DEPTH TO DETERMINE IF EVERY, YOU KNOW WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY, EVERYTHING'S COLLECTIBLE IS IT STANDS OUT.
SO THEY KNOW THAT THEY KNOW THAT THERE WAS A DEBT ON IT.
I DON'T THINK, I DON'T THINK SO.
I DON'T THINK I YOU WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO LEAVE.
WELL, SOME OF THOSE THINGS MIGHT.
I'M, YOU KNOW, I NOT HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
THEY SHOULDA COLLECTED IT AT THE TIME.
THEY SHOULDA COLLECTED AT THE TIME.
AND I THINK THAT WAS BEFORE COMMISSIONER ROSA'S TIME.
I'M JUST SAYING, YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST WHAT DO I THINK THE, JUST TRYING TO PRESERVE ANY, ALL RIGHTS THE COUNTY THEY HAVE RIGHT NOW.
BUT SHOULDN'T IT BE IN THE MORE OF A FASHION THAT THE PEOPLE THAT ARE STILL BUSY, THEY SHOULD BE PAYING THEIR PORTION THAT FILL.
WELL, PART OF THE PROBLEM IS A LOT OF THOSE LOTS ARE STILL OWNED BY DEVELOPERS THAT, SO THOSE ARE TRULY COLLECT.
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PROPOSAL, THIS IS COLLECTION FOR THEY ALL THIS INFORMATION, SPECIAL SERVICES CONTRACT.AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THEY WOULD LOOK INTO AND TAKE CARE OF.
WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY SOMETHING THAT SAID THE DA'S OFFICE GOING AND ALL THESE THINGS, FILING SUITS, FILING WHATEVER IS IT WOULD BE A, UM, I GOT WOULDN'T CLAIM MAN, THAT REALLY DOES NOT SURE IT WOULDN'T.
LEGAL RIGHT, YOUR, BECAUSE OTHERWISE IT WOULD BE MOTION.
MAKE SURE, OKAY, WE HAVE A MOTION, A SECOND ON THE FLOOR.
DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION FROM ANY MEMBER OF THE COURT? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
THE NEXT ITEM IS, UH, NUMBER 14, AND THAT IS TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER SETTING A DATE FOR INTERVIEW.
HIRE A VETERAN SERVICE OFFICER AND HUMAN RESOURCES DIRECTOR BY THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT.
AND THIS WAS PLACED ON THE AGENDA.
AGAIN, IT'S ONE OF THESE THINGS THAT IS JUST HANGING OUT THERE, UH, IN LIMBO.
AND WE HAVE I THINK WHAT 20 SOMETHING APPLICANTS FOR, UM, VETERAN SERVICE OFFICER.
AND I'M PRETTY SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, THE PEOPLE WOULD PROBABLY NEED TO KNOW THAT APPLIED IF, IF THEY'RE GONNA BE CHOSEN OR NOT.
SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT, YOU KNOW, WHAT, WE'RE STILL GETTING APPLICATION.
UH, HOW LONG HAS THIS DIVISION BEEN POSTED NOW? TIFFANY, THE VETERAN SERVICE OFFICER.
UM, SINCE THE END OF, OR NO, THE BEGINNING OF NOVEMBER.
WHAT, WHAT IS Y'ALL THOUGHT ON CLOSE WHERE YOU CLOSE THE APPLICATION? DO WHAT THEN? WHERE YOU CLOSING IT? AS SOON AS YOU GOT, YOU LET ME KNOW WHEN Y'ALL ARE READY TO, I DON'T KNOW, APPLICATION UNTIL BILL AND, UH, RIGHT NOW, LAST TIME WHEN WE FAILED THE B SO, UH, OFFICE OR THE, THERE WAS A, MAYBE A COMMISSIONER ON IT.
UH, LI WE GET THAT PROCESS STARTED.
A SHOULD WE SHOULD BE FORM A COMMITTEE AGAIN.
WELL, I, I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE DID LAST TIME AND I THINK THAT WORKED PRETTY WELL WITH OTHER VETERANS.
PRETTY WELL UNDERSTAND WHAT, UH, UH, THE POSITION REQUIRES AND, UH, AND AGAIN, WE'RE STILL GETTING APPLICATIONS.
HOW ABOUT WE NEED TO PUT A CLOSING DATE ON THAT? WE CAN, YES.
CAN WE PUT A CLOSING DATE ON THAT? OKAY.
I'LL DO, DO YOU KNOW WELL, WELL LET'S GO AHEAD AND MAYBE SET ON THE CLOSING DATE FOR, AND THEN WE'LL START THE, UH, PROCESS.
IS TIFFANY STILL SERVING HIS INTERIM? YES.
SO WHAT IS YOUR PLEASURE FOR A CLOSING DAY? IF THAT'S WHAT, THAT'S KIND OF WHAT YOU WERE LOOKING FOR? UH, YES.
I THINK WE NEED SET SOME TYPE OF TIMELINE TO, TO DO THIS.
AND ON THE, UH, ON THE COMMITTEE, THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AND I DISCUSSED THIS, IF POSSIBLY WE COULD HAVE ONE, UM, ASSISTANT DA ON IT AND TWO COMMISSIONERS, SOMEONE FROM THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE, UM, UH, BECAUSE THEY HAVE, UH, MORE PERSONNEL THAN ANYBODY ELSE ON THE HR.
WELL ON ON BOTH OF THEM ACTUALLY.
I MEAN, DO Y'ALL AGREE TO THAT? I THINK EVERYONE ON THE COMMITTEE SHOULD BE A VETERAN.
WE HAVE 180 A THAT, UH, DOES OUR VETERAN SERVICES FOR, WE GOT TWO COMMIT COMM THAT ARE VETERANS.
SO THE FIRST, THE, THE ASSISTANT ATTORNEYS OFFICE VETERAN PHIL WILLIAMS. WHY DON'T WE MAYBE HAVE THE, EACH COMMISSIONER, UH, NOMINATE SOME FOR BOTH POSITIONS AND, UH, TO SERVE ON AN INTERVIEW COMMITTEE.
AND, UH, IF YOU GET THAT INTO, WE WOULD PUT THE DATE DECEMBER 31ST.
AND THEN IF YOU CAN, UH, GO AHEAD AND WE NEED A, A RECOMMENDATION FROM YOU.
WELL, THAT'D BE, UH, FIVE IF I PUT ONE AND THE FOUR COMM ONE AND WE CAN CERTAINLY TAKE INPUT FROM THE DA'S OFFICE AND ANYBODY ELSE THAT'S YEAH.
WHAT, AND, AND WE DISCUSSED THE COMMITTEE POSSIBLY LIKE TO SAY SOMEONE FROM THE, AN ASSISTANT DA AND, AND MAYBE TWO COURT MEMBERS OR
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IF THEY DON'T WANT TO SERVE, THEY CAN APPOINT THE VETERAN, UH, TO SERVE IN THE POSITION AND THEN SOMEONE FROM THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE AND UH, MAYBE AN AT LARGE POSITION, UH, APPOINTED, YOU KNOW, BY THE COURT.YEAH, YOU DON'T WANT WATER TOO.
IS UH, THAT DIDN'T MEAN YOU HAVEN'T SERVED.
I NO, AND I I'M SURE THE INTEREST AMONG THE VETERANS, YOU KNOW, AND THEN ON THE HR WE CAN, UH, COMMISSIONER SUGGEST HAVING A COUPLE OF COMMISSIONERS AND, AND, UH, OTHERS THAT MIGHT BE INTERESTED IN SERVING.
UH, SET THE DEADLINE ON DECEMBER THE THIRD FIRST AND THEN WE'LL COME BACK.
NEXT MEETING YOU'D LIKE TO DO.
SO GO AHEAD AND GET SO WE SLOW.
UH, THAT BEING SAID, IS THAT, UH, SOUND OKAY WITH YOU COMMISSIONER? YES.
AT LEAST WE'RE MOVING FORWARD.
YOU WANT TO PUT THAT IN? YEAH, I'LL LET YOU REPEAT IT.
THAT BE A GOOD IDEA? PROBABLY NEED TO MAKE SURE WE WRITE IT DOWN WHEREVER WE'RE, SO, UH, WE WOULD'VE, UH, A, ON THE VETERAN SERVICE OFFICER, WE WOULD'VE AT LEAST ONE VETERAN FROM THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT AND THEN EACH COMMISSIONER WOULD APPOINT AND THE JUDGE WOULD APPOINT, UH, SOMEONE TO SERVE ON THAT COURT AS WELL.
I MEAN ON THAT BOARD AS WELL AS WELL.
SO ONE COMMISSIONER, UH, THAT SERVED AS, WE CAN PUT FOUR COMMISSION ON THERE.
AND THEN LET'S PUT TWO ON THERE.
AND THEN EACH ONE OF 'EM PICK NON SERVE ON THE BOARD AND GIVE US, UH, WE DO YOU, DID YOU DONATE SOMEBODY? LET LET THE DA'S OFFICE? I THINK, UM, SOMEONE BECAUSE THEY MAY HAVE, THE ONLY REASON I POINT THAT IS BECAUSE OUR, OUR VETERAN DA AND OUR OFFICE DOES THE VETERAN SERVICES COURT WITH JUDGE RICH.
AND SO HE INTERACTS WITH A LOT OF OUR DEFENDANT WILLING REVIEW THE PEOPLE.
WELL, ONE THING I HEARD Y'ALL TALK ABOUT WAS THAT EACH MEMBER OF THE COMMITTEE WOULD BE A VETERAN.
THAT'S WHAT I, AND I DIDN'T HEAR THAT IN THAT FINAL MOTION, THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT WILL EACH APPOINT A MEMBER FROM THE VETERANS COMMUNITY.
EVERYBODY OKAY WITH THAT? THAT'S WELL, ARE ARE, IS EACH COMMISSIONER GONNA APPOINT ONE OR THE TWO VETERAN COMMISSION? NO, ALL FIVE OF ONE PUT SEVEN PEOPLE.
ALRIGHT, SO THAT'S THE FIRST PART OF IT.
AND THEN THE SECOND PART OF IT IS TO, UH, UH, UH, THE PROCESS TO INTERVIEW THE HR HR DIRECTOR.
AND THAT, UH, COULD BE, UH, FIVE OR SEVEN OR WHATEVER YOU'D LIKE TO DO THAT.
AND I THINK THE IDEA WAS COMMISSIONER WANTS TO HAVE SOMEONE FROM THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE, I BELIEVE.
UH, YES, BECAUSE THEY HAD SOME, MANY PERSONNEL, UH, THEY HAD EMPLOYEES, COLMAN COUNTY.
OKAY, SO, AND, AND, AND DOES THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY HAVE SOMETHING WANNA ADD TO THAT AS FAR AS MAYBE WHEN WE SPOKEN WITH, UM, WE JUST THOUGHT THAT SOMEBODY FROM THE CIVIL DIVISION OF THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE SHOULD BE ON THAT.
JUST BECAUSE YOU DEAL WITH SO MANY EMPLOYMENT, Y'ALL ARE GONNA DRAWS I DON'T, BUT WE NEED SOMEONE THAT LOT EMPLOYMENT LAW BECAUSE THAT WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WHOEVER FILL THAT POSITION IS FAIRLY KNOWLEDGEABLE ABOUT EMPLOYMENT LAW.
AND THEN THE OTHER MEMBERS, UH, WOULD YOU EXPECT TO DO THAT, COMMISSIONER? IT NEEDS TO BE TOO BIG.
SO ONE, WE HAVE THREE SHERIFFS DA COMMISSION'S.
OKAY, SO YOU COULD GO WITH THREE, I MEAN, OKAY.
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THAT BE, UH, THE COMMISSIONER ONE? YOU WANT VOLUNTEER FOR THAT NOW YOU GET TO STORE, YOU GOT THE COMMISSIONER THREE.COMMISSIONER I, I GO AND TELL YOU WHO THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE WOULD BE IF YOU WANT.
AND THAT THESE INTERVIEWS WOULD START AFTER DECEMBER 31ST.
AND, AND I THINK THAT FOR THE REST OF THE COUNTY EMPLOYEES AT LARGE, YOU KNOW THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT RIGHTFULLY SO AS A MEMBER, UM, THE CIVIL DIVISION KIND OF COURTHOUSE PERSONNEL, THAT SAME.
IS THERE A WAY TO FIT, UH, A MEMBER IN FROM THE, THE REMAINING COUNTY EMPLOYEES? COMMISSIONER WOULD DO? COMMISSIONER WHAT WE DO? THAT'S US.
AND, UH, ARE YOU CLEAR ON THIS? THAT'S WHY WE RECORD.
ALRIGHT, COMMISSIONER, YOU WISH TO PUT THIS WHAT WE JUST YEAH, I'LL MAKE THE MOTION.
AND WE'LL REVIEW THE RECORDING, MAKE SURE IT'S, HAVE A SECOND FOR COMMISSIONER SHANE.
A OPPOSED? ALL RIGHT, NUMBER 15 IS TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER A COUNTYWIDE VEHICLE MAINTENANCE PROGRAM, MECHANIC'S POSITION, AND TAKING ANY ACTION AS NEEDED.
OKAY, COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS ON AGENDA.
I HAVE, SO ITEM 16 IS TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER THE APPROVAL OF THE MENTS ASSOCIATED WITH THE SPECIAL BOARD FOR THE EASEMENT ON STATE HIGHWAY 34, UH, EVEN FOR PARCEL 30.
AND THIS WAS AN EASEMENT, UH, PARTIAL, NO PROPERTY.
THOUGHT IT WAS JUST AN EASEMENT.
SO I HAVE A, NO, WE STILL HAVE ONE PIECE OF, UH, WE HAVE ONE EASEMENT AND ONE PIECE OF ROCK AND IT'S OWNED BY THE, UH, FAMILY CHEVROLET.
AND SO IT'S THE ONLY ONE THAT'S, UH, THAT HASN'T BEEN RESOLVED YET.
AND SO THAT NO, I TS AND, UH, THEY'RE WORKING ON GETTING THAT RESOLVED AND THAT THAT'S THE ONLY THAT WE HAVE.
UH, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
UH, NEXT NUMBER 17 IS, UH, HAVE PRESENTATION AND VOTE.
ACCEPT THE, UH, MONTHLY REPORT OR SEPTEMBER, 2016.
THIS, UM, RECORDED IS AT THE PHYSICAL END OF YOUR YEAR, 2016.
UM, OUR REVENUE, UH, OPINION IS ABOUT 37,240,000.
OUR EXPENDITURES WERE 37 MILLION.
SO WE, YEAH, WELL, WE, WE KEPT A LITTLE BIT THERE, SO I TOLD YOU I'D BRING THIS BACK TO Y'ALL TO LET YOU, YOU LOOK AT IT BECAUSE WE WERE STILL MOVING THINGS TO GET IT PUT BACK IN THE RIGHT.
SO DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, UH, ABOUT THE, UH, AUDITOR'S REPORT? SEPTEMBER.
HAVE A MOTION TO ACCEPT? HAVE A SECOND.
UH, COMMISSIONER PHILLIP SECOND MOTION.
UH, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL FAVOR SAY AYE.
UH, THEN NUMBER 18 IS TO PRESENT, ACCEPT THE AUDITOR'S QUARTER COURT FOR QUARTER ENDING, UH, SEPTEMBER THE 30TH, 2016.
UH, I RECALL TO YOUR INTENTION, OUR, UH, REVENUES FOR THAT QUARTER WERE AT 2.8 MILLION.
AND LAST YEAR ABOUT THIS TIME WE WERE TWO POINT, WE BROUGHT IN FULL EXTRA REVENUE THIS, THIS LAST QUARTER.
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THE AUDITOR? I HAVE A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER ALLEN TO ACCEPT THE REPORT.DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND FOR COMMISSIONER.
ITEM NUMBER 19 IS TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER APPROVING LINE ITEM TRANSFERS.
RECEIVED A COPY OF THAT? YES, THIS IS, UM, THE LINE TRANSFER IS JUST FOR THEIR WELLNESS PROGRAM.
AND THEN WE GOT A CHECK FROM THE
WE HAD A DONATION OF, UH, REVENUE FROM FOR THE CHILD, SO WE WANTED TO THEIR BUDGET.
HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? WE HAVE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE, UH, LINE ITEM TRANS MOTION.
20 YEARS TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER CLAIM PAYMENT.
YOUR P'S PAYMENT TODAY OR MILLION 53,598 21 CENTS.
THAT IS YOUR EMPLOYEE INSURANCE ROAD ON THIS 43.7.
UM, ROAD MATERIALS FOR ALL FOUR PRECINCTS WAS AT 65,000 AND THE REST OF IT WAS JUST INDIGENT FENCE, UM, TOOLS AND NEW EQUIPMENT.
OUR UTILITIES AND CONVENIENCE STATION HAUL, IT'S UNDER, UH, THERE'S, THERE'S A, THERE'S A BILL THERE.
IT'S PROBABLY A TYPO ABOUT HALFWAY DOWN.
IT'S AN EIGHTH AMOUNT DOWN TO THE TOP EIGHTH FROM THE TOP.
OR IS THAT, UH, LICENSE? NO, THAT THAT IS CORRECT.
THOSE WERE DIFFERENT CASES THAT WERE APPEALED OR PUT BY, BUT NOT, NOT AT THAT TIME.
IT HAD BEEN DECIDED OR DISPOSED.
WELL IT SAYS HERE DISPOSED TEN ONE FOURTEEN.
BILL, THEY BILL US TWO YEARS AGO OR DID THEY THE BILL FOR TWO YEARS OR 10? I BELIEVE YOU'RE RIGHT THERE.
COULD BE VERY POSSIBLE THAT, YES.
ANY MOTION TO APPROVE? MOTION AJOUR.