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TO ORDER.I BELIEVE WE DO HAVE A, UH, QUORUM OF THE COURT HERE TO START.
SO WE WILL, UH, GO AHEAD AND DO THAT.
I ASSUME THE OTHER, UH, MEMBERS WILL BE HERE MOMENTARILY.
UH, THIS IS A, UH, JUST A WORKSHOP OF THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT.
SO OBVIOUSLY IT'S FOR INFORMATION PURPOSES ONLY.
AND WE'RE GOING TO HEAR FROM THE CORPS OF ENGINEERS AND, UH, ALSO FROM OUR FRIENDS OVER AT THE COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENTS THAT WILL, UH, BE PROVIDING US SOME INFORMATION ON TWO ITEMS. AND I'LL GO AHEAD AND READ THOSE, JUST SO WE'LL KNOW FOR SURE.
UH, THE FIRST ONE IS, UH, PRESENTATION FROM NORTH CENTRAL TEXAS COUNCIL OF GOVERNANCE REQUESTING KAUFMAN COUNTY TO JOIN THE EAST PARK INITIATIVE TO BENEFIT THE FUTURE DEVELOPMENT OF THE EAST PARK, TRINITY RIVER AND SURROUNDING COMMUNITIES.
AND THEN THE SECOND PART WILL BE A DISCUSSION WITH THE CORPS OF ENGINEERS, UH, CONCERNING PERFORMING A HYDRAULIC STUDY AT THE COST OF COUNTIES AND CITIES IN THE VICINITY OF THE EAST PARK.
AND A CHANGE IN THE DEVELOPMENT, UH, STANDARD IN THAT FLOOD PLAIN.
I DON'T, I KNOW WE HAVE SOME, UH, UH, CITIES THAT REPRESENTED HERE, OBVIOUSLY.
UH, WE HAVE MAYOR FROM THE COMBINE, ALL THE OTHER CITIES REPRESENTED, UH, HERE AND MESQUITE MANAGEMENT.
ANYBODY ELSE WE TRIED TO INVITE? HI, I'M WITH GALES COUNTY.
WE'RE GLAD THAT, GLAD TO HAVE Y'ALL.
AND THEN MAY HAVE SOME OTHERS THAT'LL DRIFT IN HERE JUST A LITTLE BIT.
GAGE RIGGLEMAN IS OUR MAPPING, UH, COORDINATOR IN THE COUNTY AND ALSO OUR FLOODPLAIN, UH, ADMINISTRATOR 9 1 1.
HE WEARS A MULTITUDE OF HATS AND HE CAN DO STUFF ON THE COMPUTER THAT I CAN JUST ONLY DREAM ABOUT.
SO, UM, GAGE IS KIND OF ONE, OR NOT KIND OF, BUT HE'S ONE THAT KIND OF ARRANGE THIS MEETING TODAY.
SO, GAGE, I'M GONNA TURN IT OVER TO YOU AND THEN WE'LL, WE WANT THIS TO BE AN INTERACTIVE, UH, AND SO WHENEVER YOU'RE UP TALKING, I GUESS WE CAN ASK QUESTIONS.
UH, YEAH, WE'VE GOT, UH, MIA AND EDITH HERE FROM THE NORTH CENTRAL TEXAS COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENTS TO KIND OF OPEN UP THE CONVERSATION ABOUT, YOU KNOW, FUTURE DEVELOPMENT ALONG THE TRINITY RIVER FLOODPLAIN.
UM, AND GETTING THAT STUDIED, UH, POTENTIALLY.
UM, I, I WON'T GO TOO DEEP INTO IT 'CAUSE THEY'RE ABOUT TO HAVE A PRESENTATION ON IT, BUT THAT, THAT'S KIND OF THE CORE MISS MEETING HERE.
SO IF Y'ALL WANT TO JUST TAKE OVER AND WE CAN MOVE THE PROJECTOR OVER HERE MAYBE, AND CAN ANYBODY YOU SEE IT, ARE YOU GONNA BE ABLE TO SEE IT FROM WHERE YOU, WHERE YOU ARE? OKAY.
THANK YOU JUDGE WOOD AND COMMISSIONERS FOR INVITING US TODAY.
WE REALLY APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME AND SPEAK WITH YOU ABOUT AN OPPORTUNITY FOR YOUR COUNTY.
UM, WE COME HERE IN PARTNERSHIP WITH COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENTS.
WE HAVE A, A FLOOD PLAIN GROUP THAT WE WORK WITH, UM, FOCUSED ON THAT TOPIC.
AND IN THAT TOPIC, WE PARTNER WITH THE CORPS OF ENGINEERS.
WE'VE GOT JERRY COTTER HERE TODAY, UM, TO HELP US WITH THIS PRESENTATION, UM, ON YOUR AGENDA, YOU'VE GOT TWO KIND OF SEPARATE ITEMS, AND IF YOU'LL INDULGE US, WE'LL COMBINE THOSE INTO KIND OF ONE PRESENTATION.
UM, AND ALYSSA SHEPHERD IS FROM DALLAS COUNTY.
SHE'S BEEN WORKING WITH US TO TRY TO REACH OUT TO OUR DIFFERENT COMMUNITIES AND, AND NOW COUNTIES TO TRY TO SEE IF THERE IS AN INTEREST IN THIS OPPORTUNITY.
UM, THEN THAT OPENS THE DOOR FOR US TO, UM, MAKE SOME PROGRESS TOWARDS, UM, WORKING WITH YOU TO FINALIZE THAT EFFORT, IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU WOULD CHOOSE TO DO.
SO THE COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENTS, UM, WE, OOPS, THAT'S NOT THE RIGHT THING TO DO.
THE COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENTS WORKS ON A VARIETY OF TOPICS.
OUR BIGGEST TOPIC WE COORDINATE WITH COMMUNITIES ON, UH, WITHIN OUR 16 COUNTIES IS TRANSPORTATION.
SO YOU, MANY OF YOU HAVE PROBABLY INTERACTED WITH OUR TRANSPORTATION COUNCIL.
UM, IT'S OUR BIGGEST GROUP OF COMMITTEE MEMBERS.
UM, BUT WE ALSO HAVE EMERGENCY PREPAREDNESS AND WORKFORCE.
AND OUR GROUP IS ENVIRONMENT AND DEVELOPMENT.
SO WE HAVE A NUMBER OF TOPICS WE FOCUS ON, LIKE SOLID WASTE AND PUBLIC WORKS AND FLOOD PLAIN MANAGEMENT AND STORM WATER MANAGEMENT, UM, WHERE WE UNDERSTAND OUR COMMUNITY'S NEEDS.
WE GET TOGETHER WITH THOSE COMMUNITIES AND THOSE EXPERTS WITHIN THOSE TOPICS AND TRY TO HAVE GROUP DISCUSSIONS WHERE WE UNDERSTAND THE NEEDS AND THEN TRY TO COME UP WITH CREATIVE WAYS TO ADDRESS THOSE NEEDS, WHETHER THAT'S THROUGH ACTIONS COLLABORATIVELY, WHERE WE'RE CREATING A CONSISTENT PRODUCT OR THROUGH FUNDING WHERE WE CAN APPLY TO OUR DIFFERENT STATE AND FEDERAL AGENCIES TO TRY TO GET SOME, SOME FUNDING SO THAT WE CAN HELP MOVE THOSE INITIATIVES
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FORWARD.UM, WE'RE HOPING TO PARTICIPATE THIS WEEK, EVEN IN A WASTEWATER DISCUSSION THAT, THAT MAY OCCUR HERE IN THE COUNTY.
UM, THIS IS CORY MULLEN FROM OUR GROUP.
UM, SO WE'LL GO AHEAD AND START OFF.
I, I'VE COVERED JUST MAYBE A LITTLE BIT OF THIS.
WE'RE A VOLUNTARY ASSOCIATION, OUR AGENCY COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENTS IN NORTH CENTRAL TEXAS, VOLUNTARY AGENCY UP ON, FOR OUR LOCAL GOVERNMENTS.
WE HELP PLAN FOR COMMON NEEDS, STRENGTHEN COLLECTIVE POWER, RECOGNIZE REGIONAL OPPORTUNITIES, WHICH THIS IS WHAT WE'RE REALLY HERE ABOUT TODAY, IS A REGIONAL OPPORTUNITY, UM, RESOLVING REGIONAL PROBLEMS AND THEN MAKING JOINT DECISIONS.
SO JUST QUICKLY, THERE'S OUR 16 COUNTIES.
KAUFMAN OBVIOUSLY IS ONE OF THOSE COUNTIES.
WE HAVE 169 CITIES THAT WE WORK WITH AND THERE SPECIAL DISTRICTS, WHICH MAY INCLUDE SCHOOL DISTRICTS, WATER DISTRICTS, DIFFERENT UTILITY DISTRICTS.
WE'VE GOT RIGHT NOW 7 MILLION PEOPLE IN OUR REGION.
UH, WE'RE GROWING REALLY QUICKLY.
UH, WE'RE ANTICIPATING DOUBLING IN POPULATION BY 2060.
SO THAT'S A LOT OF GROWTH COMING OUR WAY.
AND SO WE'RE, WE'RE RECOGNIZING THAT THERE'S MANY OPPORTUNITIES TODAY THAT WE CAN LOOK TOWARDS THE FUTURE AND EITHER ADDRESS THOSE ISSUES OR NOT COLLECTIVELY IN THOSE TWO, TWO DIFFERENT CHOICES WILL RESULT IN VERY DIFFERENT OUTCOMES IN THOSE AREAS.
SO I'M HERE TODAY TO TALK WITH YOU ABOUT A, A LONG TIME PROGRAM THAT WE HAVE.
UM, IT'S BEEN GOING ABOUT 27 YEARS, AND THE FOCUS OF THIS PROGRAM IN PARTICULAR IS FLOOD PLAN MANAGEMENT.
UM, WE'VE GOT, UM, DIFFERENT COMMUNITIES THAT WE WORK WITH, FARMERS BRIDGE AND FORT WORTH, AND GRAND PRAIRIE, IRVINGTON, IRVING, LEWISVILLE, ARLINGTON, CARROLLTON, CAPELLA, AND DALLAS.
SO WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THOSE CITIES AND THE COUNTIES OF DALLAS, DENTON, AND TARRANT FOR OVER 27 YEARS, UM, WORKING ON FLOOD PREVENTION.
AND THAT FLOOD PREVENTION RELATES TO THE TRINITY RIVER.
SO OUR PROGRAM, AND THIS IS WHERE THE PROGRAM BALANCE WERE 27 YEARS AGO.
UM, THE PROGRAM RUNS FROM THE, UH, TRINITY RIVER UP HERE TO THE WEST FORT AND OVER TO THE DIFFERENT RESERVOIRS, AND THEN UP THEON PORT, UM, TO, TO LOUISVILLE LAKE.
UM, AND THAT PROGRAM HAS BEEN FOCUSED ON.
THAT PROGRAM HAS BEEN FOCUSED ON THE COLLABORATION BETWEEN THESE CITIES, AND I'LL GET INTO A LITTLE BIT OF A TIMELINE.
IT WAS INITIATED IN THE, IN THE LATE EIGHTIES, UH, THROUGH SOME DISCUSSIONS THAT WE HAD ABOUT FLOODING IN OUR REGION WITH FLORIDA REGIONAL WATER.
WE ALSO HAVE TWO SPECIAL DISTRICTS, THE TAR REGIONAL WATER DISTRICT, AND THE ATTORNEY RIVER AUTHORITY THAT PARTNER WITH US, UM, TO HELP MOVE OUR INITIATIVES ALONG.
UM, SO THIS, AGAIN, THIS INITIATIVE THAT WE HAVE IS FOCUSED ON THIS CORRIDOR.
THERE'S A LOT OF AREA OUTSIDE OF THAT CORRIDOR THAT THIS PARTICULAR PROGRAM DOES NOT LOOK AT.
IT REALLY JUST LOOKS AT THE TRINITY RIVER CORRIDOR AND FLOOD PREVENTION ALONG THAT CORRIDOR.
SO, FROM A QUICK TIMELINE, UH, BACK IN THE PRE PRE SEVENTIES, THERE WERE FLOODWAY CONSTRUCTIONS.
THERE WAS A LOT OF, OF, UH, WORK ON THE, ON THE DALLAS AND FORT WORTH FLOODWAYS.
AND WE HAD THE, THE CLEAN WATER ACT THAT CAME ALONG IN 1972 THAT LOOKED AT THE NAVIGABLE WATERS.
WE HAD DEVELOPMENT GOING, YOU KNOW, JUST GANGBUSTERS IN THE EIGHTIES.
UH, A LOT OF DEVELOPMENT, NOT REALLY A LOT OF
AND THAT WAS WHEN WE WERE BUILDING CONCRETE CHANNELS AND GETTING THE WATER OUT AS QUICK AND AS FAST AS WE COULD, NOT SO MUCH WORRYING ABOUT ECOLOGY AND ALL THOSE OTHER FACTORS.
UM, THE, THE THEME WAS GET IT OUT, GET OUT QUICK.
UM, SO THEN ALONG COMES NEPA IN 1988, UM, THERE WAS AN ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT STATEMENT, UM, OR AN ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT STUDY CONDUCTED ON THE TRINITY RIVER.
AND THERE WAS A DETERMINATION THAT WITH ALL THE DEVELOPMENT AND THE SPEED AND THE GROWTH AND THE URBANIZATION, IF SOMETHING WASN'T DONE DIFFERENTLY,
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UM, THEN WE WERE GONNA HAVE FLOODING, UH, IN PARTICULAR IN, IN THE DALLAS AREA.AND THAT'S PART OF WHY THIS IS HERE TODAY, IS THAT ALL OF THIS DEVELOPMENT ALONG THAT CORRIDOR HAS A HEAVY, HEAVY IMPACT ON THE, THE TRINITY THROUGH DALLAS AND DALLAS COUNTY IN PARTICULAR, BECAUSE THAT'S HOW WATERSHEDS WORK.
WATER STARTS AT THE TOP OF THE WATERSHED AND IT COMES DOWNSTREAM.
SO AT THE MOST DOWNSTREAM END OF THIS CORRIDOR IS THE CITY OF DALLAS AND DALLAS COUNTY.
SO, UM, THAT'S WHY WE'VE GOT A LOT OF SUPPORT, AND WE'RE TRYING TO PARTNER AND, AND SEE IF THERE'S OTHER OPPORTUNITIES THAT WE CAN PURSUE AT THIS TIME.
BUT A RECORD OF DECISION WAS ISSUED, WHICH DROVE COMMUNICATION IS REALLY WHAT THAT DROVE AND, AND COOPERATION AND COLLABORATION.
WE'VE GOT A PROBLEM WITH THE MESSAGE.
SO WHAT CAN WE DO COLLECTIVELY? WE CAN'T JUST CONTINUE TO DEVELOP AS WE HAVE ALONG THIS CORRIDOR.
WE'VE GOT TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT THE, THE SPEEDY URBANIZATION AND THE PHILOSOPHY OF GET IT OUT, GET IT QUICK, GET IT DONE,
UM, SO THE COMMUNITY'S GOT TOGETHER WITH THE CORPS OF ENGINEERS AS PARTNERS, AND WITH THE COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENTS AS PARTNERS, AND DETERMINED SOME CRITERIA THAT COULD BE IMPLEMENTED ALONG THAT CORRIDOR TO REDUCE THE FLOOD.
UM, THINGS LIKE, YOU KNOW, DON'T, DON'T JUST ALLOW DEVELOPMENT TO GO AND FILL IN THAT CORRIDOR, UH, THAT FLOODPLAIN AREA AS THE FEDERAL E FEMA, THE FEDERAL EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT AGENCY HAS CRITERIA.
UM, AND IF YOU JUST APPLY THOSE MINIMUM STANDARDS ALONG THIS CORRIDOR, FLOODING THE RESULTS, BECAUSE IT ALLOWS FOR FILLING IN THOSE, THOSE AREAS WHERE THE WATER NEEDS TO STAND AS FLOODING OCCURS, UM, WHERE IT'S ALLOWED TO STAND.
THE, THE FEDERAL, THE FEMA MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS ALLOW THAT AREA TO BE FILLED IN AS DEVELOPMENT COMES ALONG AND ALLOWS THE SPEED OF THE WATER TO BE INCREASED SO THAT YOU GET IT DOWNSTREAM MORE QUICKLY.
UM, AND ALLOWS, YOU KNOW, DECREASING OF THAT STORAGE AREA.
UM, IT DOESN'T ALLOW FOR INCREASES TO WATER SURFACE ELEVATIONS DOWNSTREAM IF YOU, BUT IT ALLOWS FOR A LOT OF OTHER DAMAGING EFFECTS.
UM, AND THE FEMA STANDARDS REVOLVE AROUND FLOWS THAT WERE GENERATED IN GENERALLY THE 1970S.
UM, AND THOSE ARE STILL THE FLOWS THAT ARE REGULATED AGAINST TODAY UNDER THE FEMA PROGRAM.
AND AS YOU CAN IMAGINE, UM, THE AREA WASN'T APPEARING AS IT IS TODAY.
IN THE SEVENTIES, THERE WAS A LOT OF FARM TYPE LAND AND, AND A LOT OF GROWTH HAS OCCURRED SINCE THAT TIME.
SO, RECORD OF DECISION IN 1988 DROVE THE COMMUNITIES AND THE COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENTS AND THE CORPS OF ENGINEERS TO WORK TOGETHER TO COME UP WITH SOME NEW DEVELOPMENT PHILOSOPHIES ALONG THAT CORRIDOR THAT WOULD PRESERVE THAT FLOOD AREA, UM, SO THAT IT WOULD REDUCE THE RISK OF FLOODING LONG TERM.
SO IN 1988, THE COMMON VISION PROGRAM WAS INITIATED.
THE COMMUNITIES GOT TOGETHER AS A, AS A FLOOD PLAN STEERING COMMITTEE, AND TALKED ABOUT WHAT, WHAT REGULATIONS CAN WE ADOPT FOR OURSELVES AND HOW DO WE WANT TO REGULATE OURSELVES SUCH THAT THE RESULT IS DECREASED FLOODING LONG TERM.
SO, JUST A QUICK NOTE SPECIFICALLY ABOUT KAUFMAN COUNTY.
THIS IS A CHART THAT OUR, WE HAVE A DIFFERENT DEPARTMENT THAT FOCUS ON, FOCUSES ON DEMOGRAPHICS AND ROAD.
IT'S CALLED OUR RESEARCH AND INFORMATION SERVICES DEPARTMENT.
AND THEY'VE WORKED IN, IN COLLABORATION WITH TRANSPORTATION TO DEVELOP SOME GROWTH TRENDS WITHIN OUR 16 COUNTY REGION.
AND OUTSIDE OF THAT, SO THIS IS ONE OF THE CHARTS, UM, BUT AS YOU CAN SEE, THE HIGHEST, HIGHEST GROWTH RATE BY POPULATION BETWEEN 2010 AND 2050 IS DOWN HERE IN THE BLUE.
THAT'S A PRETTY BROAD RANGE, BUT IT GIVES YOU SOME PERSPECTIVE IN TEXAS ON WHERE'S THE, THE LEAST AMOUNT OF GROWTH PROJECTED AND WHERE'S THE MOST, AND HERE'S KAUFMAN COUNTY.
HERE IS ROCKWELL COUNTY, COLLIN COUNTY.
UM, SO THE MESSAGE HERE IS THERE'S A LOT OF GROWTH COMING TO KAUFMAN COUNTY.
THIS IS A DIFFERENT WAY TO REPRESENT THAT INFORMATION.
THIS IS A GROWTH MAP THAT OUR SAME DEPARTMENT PRODUCED BASED ON THE DEMOGRAPHICS FROM THE STATE.
AND I DON'T, I DIDN'T RUN THROUGH THE WHOLE SERIES, BUT WHAT IT DOES IS IT LOOKS AT THE DIFFERENT DECADES, UM, FROM THE 1950S.
I KNOW IT'S FUZZY AND YOU CAN'T REALLY READ IT AT ALL, BUT, UM, IT RUNS THROUGH THIS SERIES OF COLORS SHOWING YOU THE DIFFERENT GROWTH AND DEVELOPMENT THAT HAS OCCURRED IN OUR REGION.
STARTS WITH THE WHITE AND THE GREEN AND THE BLUE.
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I WANT TO DRAW YOUR ATTENTION TO IS THE PURPLE, THE PURPLE DOTS ARE THE GROWTH THAT IS GOING TO OCCUR BETWEEN NOW AND 2040.SO IF YOU LOOK AT, AT KAUFMAN ALONG THIS QUARTER THAT WE WANTED TO TALK WITH YOU ABOUT THE EAST FORT, THERE'S A LOT OF GROWTH COMING TO THIS AREA.
YOU KNOW, WE'RE WORKING WITH PARKER COUNTY RIGHT NOW.
THEY'RE VERY, VERY CONCERNED ABOUT SOME GROWTH IN A, IN A, A WATERSHED OVER HERE.
AND YOU CAN SEE THAT, UM, THAT'S NOT AS IMPACTFUL AS THE GROWTH THAT'S COMING ALONG THIS CORRIDOR THAT WE'RE WANTING TO LOOK AT YOU WITH, UH, WITH YOU AT TODAY.
SO I'M GONNA LET JERRY TALK FOR JUST A MINUTE ABOUT THE CORRIDORS THAT WE HAVE, BECAUSE WHAT WE'D LIKE TO FOCUS WITH YOU ON IS WE HAVE THIS PROGRAM AND IT FOCUSES ON THE CORRIDOR THAT YOU LOOKED AT EARLIER.
UM, IT STARTS ALONG THE TRINITY RIVER, A LITTLE BUTTON'S NOT WORKING, WHAT WORKS ALONG THE TRINITY RIVER, AND IT GOES UP TO THE DIFFERENT RESERVOIRS ALONG THE TRINITY RIVER.
THE CORRIDOR THAT IS NOT, UM, INCLUDED IN THIS PROGRAM RIGHT NOW IS THE EASTPORT AND THE EASTPORT IS CURRENTLY A ZONE, A UNSTUDIED STREAM, AND I CALL IT STREAM LIBERALLY BECAUSE IT'S A PRETTY BIG STREAM, UH, RELATIVE TO SOME OF THE OTHER STREAMS IN OUR REGION.
UM, BUT THIS EAST FOUR IS NOT CURRENTLY PART OF OUR COMMON VISION PROGRAM THAT I'VE BEEN TALKING WITH YOU ABOUT.
AND SO WE WOULD LIKE TO, TO MEET WITH YOU AND HAVE THIS DISCUSSION ABOUT YOUR CONSIDERATION OF INCLUDING THE EASTPORT SECTION WITHIN THIS PROGRAM THAT WE HAVE.
SO JERRY HAS A COUPLE OF SLIDES ABOUT THE FLOOD CONTROL SYSTEMS IN OUR REGION AND HOW EFFECTIVE THEY'VE BEEN IN THE CORRIDOR, AND THE RESULTS OF ALL THE EFFORTS OF THOSE NINE CITIES, OF THREE COUNTIES AND TWO WATER DISTRICTS IN A PARTNERSHIP WITH US.
UM, THERE'S, THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF SUCCESS WITH THE PRIOR PROGRAM, AND SO I WANT, UH, FOR JERRY TO TAKE JUST A COUPLE MINUTES AND TALK WITH YOU ABOUT THAT SUCCESS.
SO, UM, MY NAME IS JERRY KOTTER.
I'M CHIEF OF WATER RESOURCES FOR THE CORPS OF ENGINEERS.
THANKS FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME OVER AND, AND, UH, TALK TO YOU GUYS ABOUT FLOODING.
UH, I WANTED TO START OUT AND JUST TALK ABOUT, UH, WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE PAST A LITTLE BIT.
SO, UH, BACK IN THE FORTIES AND FIFTIES, UH, WE STARTED DEVELOPMENT OF, UH, SIX MULTIPURPOSE, UH, RESERVOIRS.
AND THOSE RESERVOIRS HAVE FLOOD STORAGE IN THEM.
AND, UH, THEY CAPTURE THE LARGER DRAINAGE AREAS ABOVE THE DALLAS-FORT WORTH AREA AND STORE WATER, UH, DURING FLOODS.
AND SO THAT'S AFFORDED US A GREAT DEAL OF PROTECTION.
THEY CAPTURE ABOUT 50% OF THE DRAINAGE AREAS COMING INTO THE DALLAS FORT WORTH AREA.
UM, THAT SYSTEM PREVENTS TWO TO $3 BILLION IN DAMAGES EACH YEAR.
IT'S PREVENTED ABOUT $80 BILLION SO FAR.
IT COSTS, INCLUDING THE LEVEES, ABOUT 3 BILLION TO BUILD.
SO YOU CAN SEE IT'S A GREAT ECONOMIC STORY, AND IT'S A, IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE INVESTED IN, IN THE PAST, UH, TO, UH, POSITION OURSELVES TO GROW AND DEVELOP IN THE DOWN FORT WORTH AREA.
SO IT ALSO PROVIDES A LARGE SUPPLY SYSTEM, BUT IT, IT'S REALLY A, HAS BEEN A GREAT INVESTMENT, UH, FOR THE METROPLEX.
WHICH ONE GET THAT? SO, UM, THOSE SIX FLOOD CONTROL RESERVOIRS, LEVON BEING THE ONE ON THE ESPORT, BUT WE'VE ALSO GOT VILLE AND RAY ROBERTS.
WE'VE GOT GRAPEVINE ON THE EL FORT, THEN WE'VE GOT BENBROOK ON THE CLEAR FORK.
WE'VE GOT JOE POOL ON MOUNTAIN CREEK, THEY STORE, UM, YOU CAN SEE THEIR STORAGE REFLECTED UP HERE IN THIS PIE CHART.
THAT'S HOW MUCH THEY STORE IN A BIG FLOOD, THAT CDC CORRIDOR THAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW, NOT INCLUDING THE EAST FORK, THAT'S THE DARKER BLUE ON THE UPPER RIGHT HAND SIDE.
YOU CAN SEE THAT THAT CORRIDOR STORES MORE FLOOD WATER DURING AN EVENT THAN ANY TWO OF MY RESERVOIRS, MAYBE THREE OF MY RESERVOIRS.
SO WHAT WOULD'VE HAPPENED HAD WE NOT COME IN AND ESTABLISHED THE PROGRAM THAT WE DID, IS THAT THAT FLOODPLAIN, UH, WOULD'VE GOTTEN FILLED IN AND THAT STORAGE WOULD'VE GOTTEN DEPLETED.
AND THEN IT WOULD'VE BEEN BEEN LIKE DELETING A COUPLE OF FLOOD CONTROL RESERVOIRS DURING A BIG EVENT, AS YOU CAN SEE FROM THE PHOTO DURING THESE LARGE EVENTS THAT THAT RIVER SPREADS OUT AND IT CAN SPREAD OUT TO A MILE WIDE.
AND IT'S STORING A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF WATER THROUGH
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THAT WHOLE THREAD LINE THAT, UH, THAT, UH, EDITH, UH, UH, TALKED TO YOU ABOUT.SO, UH, BEFORE I TURN THIS BACK TO, TO HER, I'M GONNA KIND OF GIVE YOU MY BIG PICTURE MESSAGE.
YOU KNOW, SO WE, WE DID A GREAT INVESTMENT EARLY ON COMMUNITIES AND THE CORPS OF ENGINEERS, UH, TO DEVELOP THESE, THESE RESERVOIRS AND SPEND THAT $3 BILLION.
AND THAT'S IN TODAY'S DOLLARS.
UM, BUT THERE'S STILL SOME THREATS THAT WE HAVE OUT THERE.
AND THE LARGEST THREATS THAT WE HAVE ARE INCREASED RUNOFF FROM GROWTH AND DEVELOPMENT.
UH, WE DESIGNED OUR INFRASTRUCTURE HERE FOR AROUND 10 INCHES OF RAINFALL, SLIGHTLY UNDER IN A 24 HOUR PERIOD.
UH, WE'VE SEEN IN THE LAST TWO YEARS ACROSS TEXAS, UH, 10 EVENTS THAT EXCEED THAT LEVEL.
WE, YOU REMEMBER THE ONE DOWN HERE IN PORTANA, UH, A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, 20 INCHES.
THE RAIL CARD WAS ON ITS SIDE, THE, THE TRAIN ENGINE, ALL OF THAT.
SO WE'VE SEEN 10 OF THOSE EVENTS SCATTERED AROUND TEXAS.
TEXAS HAS THIS EXTREME CLIMATE VARIABILITY THAT, THAT IT, UH, UNDERGOES.
YOU KNOW, Y'ALL, WE, WE WERE IN DROUGHT BEFORE THAT FLOODING WE'RE ALL LIKE, WELL, IT'S NEVER GONNA RAIN AGAIN.
BUT, UH, YOU KNOW, IT KIND OF, WE, DURING THE 2015 EVENT, WE COMPLETELY FILLED ALL OF OUR FLOOD CONTROL RESERVOIRS.
WE EXCEEDED THEIR CAPACITY, UH, LAVONNE, UH, Y'ALL WERE PROBABLY AWARE WE WERE MAKING SURCHARGE RELEASES, KEPT THOSE DOWN TO A MINIMUM SO THAT THEY WEREN'T TREMENDOUSLY DAMAGING.
BUT AS GROWTH AND DEVELOPMENT OCCURS, IF THAT'S NOT MANAGED, WE'RE GONNA SEE, UH, THE, THESE, UH, FLOODING EXACERBATE IT, IT'S GONNA WORSEN.
UH, AND WE'LL SEE THE RESULTS.
WHEN YOU CAN GET OUT IN FRONT OF THIS AND YOU CAN PUT SOME MANAGEMENT PRACTICES IN PLACE, YOU SAVE YOURSELF A LOT OF MONEY DOWN THE ROAD.
'CAUSE WE ARE DOWN IN AUSTIN RIGHT NOW BUYING OUT WHOLE NEIGHBORHOODS WHERE THIS DIDN'T HAPPEN.
AND IT'S REALLY JUST UP TO YOU AS TO WHAT YOU WANT TO DO.
ANYTHING ELSE YOU WANT ME TO SAY? UM, MAYBE LET'S, LET'S GET ANOTHER COUPLE OF SLIDES THROUGH.
AND THEN I'LL CHECK WITH YOU AND SEE IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT WE'VE MISSED COVERAGE WISE.
I MEAN, THE, THE, THE FEDERAL, UH, FEMALE REGULATIONS WILL ALLOW YOU AS GROWTH CONTINUES, IF YOU CHOOSE TO JUST, YOU KNOW, CONTINUE WITH ENACTING THE FEMA MINIMUM STANDARDS.
UM, IT WILL ENABLE YOU, THEY CALL IT THE INEFFECTIVE FLOW AREA.
THAT AREA WHERE THE WATER STANDS WHEN THERE'S BIG FLOOD, THEY CALL IT INEFFECTIVE FLOW AREA.
AND THE FEDERAL REGULATIONS UNDER FEDERAL EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT AGENCY ALLOWS YOU TO HAVE DEVELOPERS GO AND FILL IN THAT AREA, UM, AS GROWTH OCCURS ALONG THIS CORRIDOR.
SO WE'RE, WE'RE A LITTLE BIT IN FRONT OF THE GROWTH RIGHT NOW.
WE'RE NOT TOO FAR IN FRONT OF THE GROWTH.
IF YOU CHOOSE TO DECIDE TO DO SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, LIKE THESE OTHER COMMUNITIES HAVE DONE, AND AVOID THE FILLING IN OF THAT AREA AND AVOID ALLOWING THE VELOCITIES TO, TO SPEED UP, YOU HAVE THE POTENTIAL TO AVOID, UM, SOME FLOODING DISASTERS IN YOUR COMMUNITIES.
SO WHAT WERE THE GOALS OF THE CDC PROGRAM AND WHAT ARE THE GOALS THEY HAD TO CHANGE? SO IT LIMITS THE IMPACT OF URBANIZATION.
UH, FLOOD ENCROACHMENTS ARE REDUCED THROUGH THIS PROGRAM.
IT'S ONE OF THE CRITERIA THAT THE COMMUNITIES CAME TOGETHER AND SAID, WE DON'T WANT ALLOW FILLING OF THAT VALLEY STORAGE.
SO FEMA CALLS IT IN DEFLECTIVE FLOW AREA.
THIS CORRIDOR PROGRAM CALLS IT VALLEY STORAGE.
IT'S THAT AREA WHERE THE WATER STAND WHEN IT'S FLOODING AND IT NEEDS SOMEWHERE TO GO.
THEY WANTED A, A CONSISTENT REGIONAL CRITERIA AND REVIEW PROCESS TO FOLLOW.
THEY FOLLOWED IT FOR 27 YEARS.
AND WE'VE ADDRESSED LITTLE TICKY-TACKY HICCUPS ALONG THE WAY, BUT IN, IN OVERALL VIEW OF THE PROGRAM, IT'S BEEN VERY EFFECTIVE.
UH, THE FUNDING STREAM, WE'VE WORKED WITH OUR COMMUNITIES WHEN MODEL UPDATES WERE NEEDED.
WE'VE WORKED WITH OUR COMMUNITIES, WE'VE WORKED WITH FEMA, WE'VE WORKED WITH THE COURT AND IDENTIFIED FUNDS THAT ARE NEEDED, YOU KNOW, THESE MODELS.
WE RECENTLY UPDATED THE TRINITY CORRIDOR MODEL IN 2014.
IT WAS APPROVED BY THE STEERING COMMITTEE.
AGAIN, OFFICIALS FROM THESE COMMUNITIES CAME TOGETHER AND SAID, WE NEED AN UPDATED MODEL.
SO WE WENT TO ABOUT 10 YEARS IN BETWEEN THOSE, UM, I'M SORRY I MISSED IT.
UH, A LOT 20 YEARS IN BETWEEN THOSE MODELS.
UM, BUT WE, WE DID RECOGNIZE THE NEED TO UPDATE THOSE MODELS TO REFLECT THE GROWTH THAT HAD OCCURRED IN OUR REGION.
UM, SO WE HAD A NEW MODEL UPDATE IN 2014 THAT WAS ADOPTED BY OUR COMMUNITIES.
UM, AND THE OVERSIGHT, UH, AGAIN, AS COMMUNITIES, AS THESE NINE COMMUNITIES WORK TOGETHER, AND AS DEVELOPMENT OCCURS, IT'S UP TO EACH OF THOSE COMMUNITIES TO SAY, OH,
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I'VE GOT A DEVELOPMENT THAT'S COMING INTO THIS CORRIDOR THAT'S OUTLINED ON THIS DIAGRAM.I NEED TO WORK WITH THAT DEVELOPER AND SUBMIT A PERMIT.
UM, SO IT GIVES THE COMMUNITIES OVERSIGHT OVER THEIR OWN SYSTEMS AND HELPS THEM LOOK AT EACH OTHER AND WHAT'S GOING ON.
WE HAVE A MAP THAT WE'VE ESTABLISHED A GIS MAP.
THERE'S BEEN OVER A HUNDRED AND SOMETHING PERMITS ALONG THAT CORRIDOR, THREE TO 27 YEARS OF THIS PROGRAM.
AND THEN IT, IT DOES ALLOW DEVELOPMENT, UM, NOT AS PERTINENT HERE.
THERE'S NO GOVERNMENTAL AGENCY SAYING, IF YOU DON'T DO SOMETHING, WE'RE NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO ALLOW DEVELOPMENT.
SO THIS IS NOT MANDATORY FOR YOUR COMMUNITIES, BUT IT'S CERTAINLY, UH, A FORWARD THINKING OPTION FOR YOU.
AND IF YOU, AGAIN, AS ALL COG PROGRAMS ARE, IF YOU CHOOSE NOT TO PARTICIPATE, YOU CAN CHOOSE NOT TO.
IF YOU CHOOSE TO PARTICIPATE, WE WILL HELP YOU AND WE WILL PARTNER WITH YOU.
AND WE'LL BRING THE RESOURCES THAT YOU NEED TO MAKE THAT PROGRAM EFFECTIVE.
THE COMMUNITIES THAT ARE PARTICIPATING CELEBRATE ABOUT EVERY FIVE YEARS.
WE CELEBRATE THE SUCCESS OF THIS PROGRAM AND TALK ABOUT COMMUNITIES BECAUSE THEY WORK TOGETHER TO ACCOMPLISH THE GOAL OF OR REDUCE FLOODING.
CAN I SAY A COUPLE QUICK THINGS? ABSOLUTELY.
SO, UH, IMPORTANT ON THAT IS THIS DOES ALLOW DEVELOPMENT, IT DOES ALLOW REDISTRIBUTION OF THAT STORY.
SO YOU CAN COME INTO THE RIVER SYSTEM, INTERACT WITH YOUR DEVELOPMENTS, BUT YOU STILL HAVE TO PRESERVE THAT STORY.
BUT YOU CAN MOVE IT AROUND AND YOU CAN PLACE DEVELOPMENT.
IT DOESN'T COMPLETELY ELIMINATE THE IMPACTS OF GROWTH AND DEVELOPMENT, BUT IT MINIMIZES THAT IMPACT.
WE ARE NO LONGER RECEIVING ANY, WE HAVEN'T IN MANY YEARS, UH, RECEIVED ANY PUSHBACK FROM THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY ON THIS.
THE CONSULTANTS ALL KNOW HOW TO DEAL WITH THIS, THIS PROCESS.
AND IT'S NOT LIKE YOU WOULD BE FLIPPING A LIGHT SWITCH, UH, AND THROWING SOMETHING AT THESE FOLKS THAT IS JUST UNKNOWN AND UNHEARD OF.
WE, THEY'RE NO LONGER YELLING OR COMPLAINING ABOUT THIS AT ALL.
AND THEY HAVE IT IN, IN, IN OVER A DECADE.
THEY HAVE NOT REALLY COMPLAINED ABOUT IT.
SO, UH, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S REALLY NOT A PROGRAM THAT'S GOING TO COME IN HERE AND BE SOMETHING WAY OUT HERE IN LEFT FIELD.
YOU KNOW, THAT THAT ISN'T HAPPENING.
THE OTHER GREAT BENEFIT THAT IT DOES IS IT, IT REQUIRES US TO DEVELOP A SET OF REGULATORY PRODUCTS.
AND THOSE, THOSE PRODUCTS CAN BE USED TO HELP YOU MANAGE YOUR, YOUR GROWTH AND DEVELOPMENT AS WELL.
SO THOSE ARE THE KIND OF SOME OF BENEFITS.
AND THE SUCCESS IS, IS THE REASON WHY OUR OTHER MINE COMMUNITIES THAT HAVE BEEN PARTICIPATING IS ASKED.
THEY'VE ASKED US TO COME TALK WITH YOU GUYS TO SEE IF YOU WANT TO PARTICIPATE IN THIS PROGRAM.
THEY'RE EXCITED ABOUT HAVING ADDITIONAL PARTNERS AND ADDITIONAL SUCCESS IN OUR REGION AS IT RELATES TO FULL PLAN MANAGEMENT.
IT ALLOWS THE PARTICIPANTS TO REVIEW THE, THE, UH, FLOOD PLANNING PERMIT SUBMITTALS THAT ARE PREPARED EACH COMMUNITY AS THEY HAVE A DEVELOPMENT WITHIN THAT FOOTPRINT, THEY SEND OUT TO THE OTHER COMMUNITIES.
TAKE A LOOK IF YOU HAVE ANY CONCERNS ABOUT IT.
UM, THERE IS A PROVISION WHERE, IF IT'S A POLITICALLY HOT POTATO AND YOU'VE GOT TO DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT THAN THE NORMAL, THERE'S PROVISIONS FOR, YOU KNOW, LOOKING AT THOSE OPTIONS.
AND IT'S NOT THAT ANOTHER COMMUNITY'S GONNA SAY, YOU ABSOLUTELY MAY NOT DO THIS, BUT THERE'S CERTAINLY AN INTEREST IN FOLLOWING THE RULES BY ALL, BECAUSE IF YOU DON'T, THEN THERE'S NO VALUE TO THE PROGRAM.
SO, SO THIS IS A MAP THAT WE HAVE, UM, PULLED OUT OF OUR, OF OUR, YOU KNOW, REGIONAL MAP.
WE HAVE MET WITH, WE'VE HAD THREE MEETINGS SO FAR, CORRECT ME, ME IF I'M WRONG.
WE HAD OUR FIRST ONE, UM, AT OUR OFFICE.
WE'VE SPOKEN WITH THE CITIES OF SUNNYVILLE AND MESQUITE AND FALL SPRINGS, DALLAS AND DALLAS COUNTY, SEVILLE, UM, FORNEY, MESQUITE AND CRANDALL.
UM, AND I'M SO HAPPY WE'RE ABLE TO, TO SPEAK WITH YOU TODAY IN
SO, UM, WE'VE SPOKEN WITH THESE DIFFERENT COMMUNITIES, THE REPRESENTATIVE, THE STAFF MEMBERS WHO INTERACT WITH FLOOD MANAGEMENT AND TRY TO, TO HELP THE COMMUNITIES WITH THE REGULATIONS.
AND SO FAR WE'VE NOT HAD ANYONE INDICATE THAT THEY WERE NOT EXCITED ABOUT THIS PROGRAM.
UH, IT WAS IN OUR LAST MEETING IN MESQUITE WHERE, UM, IT WAS, UM, WE STARTED TALKING ABOUT BEING ABLE TO COME, COME BEFORE YOU AND ASK YOU IF THIS IS SOMETHING THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO CONSIDER AS A COUNTY.
'CAUSE ONE OF THE CRITICAL, UM, PIECES OF THESE PROGRAMS IS THAT IT'S A NULL OR NONE.
IT'S EITHER EVERYONE ALONG THIS CORRIDOR WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE FROM, UH, RAY HUBBARD DOWN ALL THE WAY TO THE TRINITY HERE.
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SO, UM, I'M SORRY, I GOT OFF ON MY OWN.SO THIS YELLOW, I PUT THIS LITTLE KIND OF YELLOW HIGHLIGHT HERE.
THIS IS THE CORRIDOR THAT WE'RE HERE DISCUSSING WITH YOU TODAY.
WE'RE INTERESTED IN YOUR, UM, WILLINGNESS TO LOOK AT THIS, THIS EAST FORK.
SO THERE'S A, A SMIDGE OF THIS UP, UP IN THIS AREA RIGHT BELOW THE DAM THAT HAS BEEN STUDIED BY FEMA.
UM, THERE ARE DETAILED EL WATER SURFACE ELEVATIONS THAT EXIST UP HERE.
AND THEN THERE'S SOME ALONG THE TRINITY OVER HERE.
BECAUSE ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, THAT THIS PROGRAM LOOKS AT IS, IS THE FLOWS THAT ARE COMING TO YOU IN THE FUTURE, AS WELL AS THE ONES THAT ARE HERE TODAY.
WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT EVALUATING 1970S FLOWS.
THAT'S, THERE'S NO POINT TO THAT.
IT DOESN'T, IT CAN ADD FREEBOARD TO THE SEVENTIES, FLOWS TO YOUR HEART CONTENT.
YOU DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE PROTECTED YOUR STRUCTURES OR NOT.
UM, SO WE LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT THE FLOWS ARE TODAY AND WHAT ARE THE FUTURE FLOWS BECAUSE THOSE FUTURE FLOWS ARE COMING.
WE KNOW THAT THE GROWTH IS PROJECTED.
SO THOSE FUTURE FLOWS WILL EXIST.
AND IT'S A WHOLE LOT EASIER TO PROTECT AGAINST THOSE FLOWS TODAY THAN IT IS TO GO, LIKE AUSTIN GO AND SEND ALL KINDS OF PLACES ARE OUT THERE BUYING OUT HOUSES THAT THEY'VE ALLOWED TO, YOU KNOW, BE SITUATED ALONG THESE STREAMS IN THOSE AREAS WHERE THEY, THEY RAN THE STUDY, THEY RAN THE FEMA FLOWS, AND THEY ADDED MAYBE SOME FREEBOARD, BUT THOSE HOUSES ARE WET AND THEY'RE CONFUSED ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED.
WELL, WHAT HAPPENED? WELL, YOU USED 1970 CLOTHES, UM, AND THEN YOU'VE MAYBE ADDED A LITTLE FREEBOARD AND YOUR HOUSES ARE WET.
AND, AND EVERYBODY'S SURPRISED.
AND THAT'S PART OF OUR CHALLENGE WITH, WITH FUNDING, IS WE'RE COMPETING WHEN WE'RE TRYING TO PREVENT FLOWS IN OUR REGION, PREVENT THE HIGHER FLOWS THAT ARE GONNA INUNDATE THE HOUSES.
AND WE'RE TRYING TO PREVENT DEVELOPMENTS FROM BEING BUILT WHERE THAT WATER IS GONNA BE.
WE'RE COMPETING FOR FUNDING FROM ALL OVER THE STATE AND ALL OVER THE NATION WHERE COMMUNITIES HAVE ALLOWED THEIR DEVELOPERS TO JUST USE FEMA MINIMUM STANDARDS AND PUT THE HOUSES DOWN THERE, YOU KNOW, IN THAT FLOW AREA WHERE IT'S GONNA BE WET IN THE FUTURE.
AND THEY'RE BUYING HOUSES AND THEY'RE TRYING TO, TO RAISE PEOPLE'S INSURANCE.
YOU'VE, YOU'VE SEEN A LOT OF, UH, PUBLICITY ABOUT THE FLOOD INSURANCE RATES GOING UP, BIGGER WATERS, ALL THIS PROBLEM.
WELL, THAT'S BECAUSE OF THE CORE PRACTICES OF OTHER AREAS.
AND SO WE'RE TRYING TO GET IN FRONT OF THAT AND PREVENT THAT FLOODING.
AND IT'S HARD TO COMPETE FOR DOLLARS WHEN YOU'RE DOING THAT BECAUSE THE CRISIS ALWAYS PREVAILED.
BUT WE'VE HAD A LITTLE SUCCESS THERE.
SO, UM, WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT THAT SUCCESS AND WE'D LIKE TO CONTINUE.
SO, SO THIS IS THE ESPORT SECTION HERE.
AND THERE THERE ARE NO, UH, FEDERAL WATER SURFACE ELEVATIONS.
IT'S WHAT WE CALL A ZONE A, IT'S UNSTUDIED THERE, THERE'S NOT EVEN ELEVATIONS FROM WATER FROM THE 1970S.
YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT THEY ARE.
SO, AS DEVELOPMENT IS OCCURRING ALONG THIS CORRIDOR, EACH OF YOU HAS HAPPENED TO HAVE YOUR DEVELOPERS DO THEIR OWN SEPARATE PIECEMEAL STUDY.
THEY'RE CALCULATING THE WATERSHED AREA.
THEY'RE DETERMINING HOW MUCH FLOW IS RUNNING OFF FROM THAT AREA.
AND THEN THEY'RE TRYING TO MATCH IT UP WITH OTHER STUDIES THAT EXIST ALONG THIS EAST FORK THAT YOU'VE GOTTEN FROM OTHER DEVELOPERS.
AND YOUR STAFF HAS GOT THIS KIND OF PIECEMEAL APPROACH THAT PROBABLY THEY'RE NOT EXCEPTIONALLY HAPPY ABOUT
AND YOU DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE RIGHT.
AND THE IMPACTS FROM ONE DEVELOPMENT, YOU'RE NOT REALLY SEEING FROM THE OTHER DEVELOPMENT.
WHERE WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING IS TO DO A STUDY ALONG THE WHOLE OF THE EAST FOUR, LOOK AT TODAY'S FLOWS, LOOK AT 2050 FLOWS, WHICH IS WHAT'S IN OUR, OUR CURRENT MODEL.
AND IF YOU KNEW WHAT THAT FOOTPRINT OF THAT WATER WAS AND YOU WORKED WITH YOUR DEVELOPERS, I'M GETTING AHEAD OF MYSELF IN SLIDES, BUT YOU CAN SAVE YOURSELF A LOT OF HEARTACHE.
UM, AND THEY CAN SAY, YOUR DEVELOPERS CAN SAVE SOME MONEY, YOUR RESIDENTS.
WE HAVE THE POTENTIAL, I'M GONNA GET INTO THAT IN JUST A SECOND.
BUT THIS IS THE AREA AT ANY RATE THAT WE'RE ASKING YOU TO CONSIDER, INCLUDING IN THIS PROGRAM THAT WE ALREADY HAVE.
THE PROGRAM ENDS RIGHT IN THIS AREA.
SO IF WE COME DOWN THE EASTPORT WITH THIS STUDY, WE'LL NEED TO COME BACK UP AND TIE INTO THE EXISTING PROGRAM JUST A SMIDGE.
SO IF, IF THERE'S INTEREST, LIKE I SAID, WE'VE TALKED WITH ALL OF THESE COMMUNITIES, EVERYONE SEEMS TO BE PRETTY EXCITED.
IF WE GET FEEDBACK FROM YOU THAT YOU'RE PRETTY EXCITED ABOUT IT, YOU'RE NOT OPPOSED TO IT, WE'LL THEN WORK WITH ELLIS COUNTY.
THEY'RE OUR LAST PARTNER, UM, TO TALK WITH AND SEE IF THEY'RE ALSO SUPPORTIVE.
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BUT AGAIN, IT'S GONNA REQUIRE EVERYONE TO PARTICIPATE.SO THAT, UM, LET'S JUST SAY I'LL PICK ON COMBINE 'CAUSE YOU'RE HERE.
BUT LET'S JUST SAY THAT YOU DIDN'T PARTICIPATE.
AND SO AS DEVELOPMENTS OCCUR ALONG THE EASTPORT WITHIN YOUR COMMUNITY, YOU LET THEM FILL IN THAT FLOODWAY OF FRENCH.
'CAUSE YOU CAN'T, UM, WELL, THAT HAS A DIRECT IMPACT ON THE EAST FORK AT CRANDALL AND THE EAST FORK AT SEAVILLE.
IT MAY NOT HAVE AN IMPACT ALL THE WAY UP HERE, BUT IT'S CERTAINLY GONNA HAVE AN IMPACT ON YOUR NEIGHBORS UPSTREAM.
UM, IF FORNEY, IF FORNY ALLOWS FOR ENCROACHMENT INTO THAT FLOOD AREA, AND IF THEY SPEED UP THE WATER BECAUSE THEY CAN, BECAUSE FEMA MINIMUM STANDARDS ALLOW FOR THAT, THEN YOU'RE GONNA HAVE EROSION DOWN HERE IN MESQUITE THAT YOU DIDN'T HAVE BEFORE.
SO, FLOOD PLAIN MANAGEMENT DOESN'T JUST AFFECT YOUR DOWNSTREAM NEIGHBORS, IT ALSO AFFECTS YOUR UPSTREAM NEIGHBORS.
AND SO A LITTLE FILL ALONG HERE ALONG THE WAY, YOU KNOW, DEVELOPMENT BY DEVELOPMENT, IT WILL HAVE AN IMPACT UP HERE.
A LITTLE INCREASED LOC UP HERE IS GONNA HAVE AN IMPACT DOWN HERE.
SO YOU ARE ALL IMPACTING EACH OTHER.
THAT'S THE WAY FLOOD PLAIN MANAGEMENT WORKS AND WATERSHED MANAGEMENT WORKS.
UM, SO IT, WE REALLY DO NEED, IF WE'RE GOING TO MOVE FORWARD, WE NEED EVERYONE'S PARTICIPATION.
DALLAS COUNTY HAS BEEN HELPING US SOLICIT, UM, TO START THIS EFFORT AND REACH OUT TO THE COMMUNITIES YOU'RE HERE TODAY.
WE'RE HOPING THAT YOU'LL HAVE AN INTEREST IN THIS.
AND THEN IF WE WORK WITH ELLIS COUNTY, IF YOU ARE INTERESTED, WE'LL WORK WITH ELLIS COUNTY AND THEN BRING EVERYONE TOGETHER AND START TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT WILL IT COST.
WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO WORK WITH THE FEDERAL EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT AGENCY.
THEY'VE BEEN A PARTNER IN OUR COMMON VISION PROGRAM FOR YEARS.
THEY'VE HELPED US, UH, FUND SOME STUDIES.
THE CORE HAS HELPED FUND SOME STUDIES.
BUT TOGETHER, YOU KNOW, IT'S A LOT EASIER TO FUND THIS STUDY THAN IT IS EACH OF YOU INDIVIDUALLY OR INDIVIDUALLY THROUGH YOUR DEVELOPER ON A DEVELOPMENT BY DEVELOPMENT, BY DEVELOPMENT BASIS BASIS.
SO WHAT ARE THE BASICS OF THE REGIONAL CRITERIA THAT OUR COMMUNITIES CAME TOGETHER AND ESTABLISHED THAT ONE OF THEM IS NO INCREASE TO THE 100 YEAR WATER SURFACE ELEVATION.
UM, AGAIN, THAT'S, THAT'S A THEME OF MINIMUM STANDARDS, BUT THE FLOWS THAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT ARE NOT TODAY'S FLOWS.
SO THIS CRITERIA RELATES TO TODAY'S FLOWS AND FUTURE FLOWS.
UM, NO DECREASE IN THE VALLEY STORAGE.
SO AGAIN, THAT'S THAT AREA THAT FEMA CALLS THE FLOODWAY FRINGE, WE CALL VALLEY STORAGE.
IT'S THAT AREA WHERE THE WATER NEEDS TO SPREAD OUT IN ORDER NOT TO SHOOT ON DOWNSTREAM VERY QUICKLY.
UM, NO CREATION OR SIGNIFICANT INCREASE IN EROSIVE WA WATER VELOCITY OFFSITE OR ON SITE.
THAT'S WHAT WE'RE ASKING YOU IF YOU WANT TO CONSIDER ALONG THAT ONE CORRIDOR.
UM, IF YOU'RE INTERESTED, WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT HELPING WITH THAT.
IF YOU'RE NOT INTERESTED, THEN IF SOME ARE INTERESTED, THEN THAT PUTS US IN A LITTLE STRANGE POSITION.
'CAUSE THEN WE'RE GONNA NEED TO WORK, TRY TO BRING EVERYBODY TOGETHER ON A, ON A FINAL DECISION.
UM, BUT THOSE ARE THE BIG THREE.
BUT THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT THERE IS TO THE PROGRAM.
WHAT ARE THE BENEFITS? A LOT OF BENEFITS.
THERE'S A STABILIZATION OF YOUR FLOAT RIBS.
THERE'S THE COMMON REGIONAL CRITERIA THAT YOU ARE ALL WORKING ON TOGETHER.
THERE'S THE STATE-OF-THE-ART FLOOD PLAN MAPPING THAT THE CORE OF ENGINEERS, UH, PUTS TOGETHER FOR US.
SO YOU'RE LOOKING AT FUTURE FLOWS, YOU KNOW, WHERE THE WATER IS SPREAD.
IT'S NOT A QUESTION MARK IN YOUR HEADS.
IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT YOU'RE ASKING YOUR DEVELOPERS TO ESTABLISH.
UM, AND THEN THE, THE TECHNICAL REVIEW FROM THE CORPS OF ENGINEERS, AS THESE DEVELOPMENTS OCCUR ALONG THE CORRIDOR, WE GET, WE WORK WITH OUR COMMUNITIES.
THEY GET THEIR DEVELOPERS TO SUBMIT THAT MODEL IF THEY'RE ENCROACHING.
SO IF THEY, IF YOU WORK WITH 'EM AND THEY JUST STAY OUTTA THE FOOTPRINT, THEN THERE'S NOT, IF THERE'S NO DISTURBANCE OF THAT LAND THAT'S WITHIN THAT FOOTPRINT, THERE'S NOTHING TO DO.
BUT IF THERE IS, THEN WE, AND THEY WANT TO, YOU KNOW, FILL IN SOME HERE, BUT DIG OUT HERE.
YOU KNOW, IF THEY WANNA GET IN THERE AND, AND MUCK AROUND, WE ASK THAT.
THEY SUBMIT A MODEL THAT WE THEN TURN OVER TO THE CORPS OF ENGINEERS FOR THEIR TECHNICAL REVIEW.
UM, IT'S DIFFERENT FROM A REGULATORY FEDERAL REVIEW.
IT'S GOT ITS OWN SEPARATE PROCESS.
UM, AND THEN THERE'S THE REGIONAL REVIEW AND COMMENT.
ALL YOUR NEIGHBORS GET TO LOOK AT, YOU GET TO SEE WHAT YOUR NEIGHBORS ARE DOING.
YOUR NEIGHBORS GET TO SEE WHAT YOU'RE DOING.
YOU GET TO TALK WITH EACH OTHER REGULARLY ABOUT WHAT'S HAPPENING.
AND THEN THERE'S THE GUARANTEE OF THE LOCAL CONTROL OF THE FLOOD HUNTING MANAGEMENT DECISION.
SO WE, AGAIN, ARE APPLYING FOR OUR LOCAL GOVERNMENTS.
AND SO WE GET THEM TO WORK TOGETHER WHEN THEY WANT TO.
CAN I ASK A COUPLE THINGS? YES, PLEASE.
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SO, UM, YOU KNOW, MY, MY DIRECTIVES FROM FROM WASHINGTON ARE VERY CLEAR, YOU KNOW, THIS IS, THIS IS Y'ALL'S PROBLEM.WE'RE NOT HERE TO TRY TO TELL YOU WHAT TO DO.
THIS IS YOUR AREA, YOUR MANAGE, AND, AND WE VERY MUCH RESPECT THAT WE'RE HERE AS A TECHNICAL ADVISOR, UH, JUST TO TELL YOU WHAT WE KNOW ABOUT IT, TO COME IN AND LEND OURSELVES TECHNICALLY TO SUPPORT ANY EFFORTS THAT YOU GO THAT'S GOING ON.
AND SO, UH, EDITH MENTIONED THIS KIND OF, THIS PIECEMEAL APPROACH THAT GETS TAKEN WHEN YOU DON'T HAVE, UH, A LARGER WATERSHED MANAGEMENT.
UH, SO WHO FOLLOWED THE WIMBERLEY, UH, EVENTS THAT HAPPENED? IT'S IN THE NATIONAL NEWS.
YOU KNOW, THE, UH, THREE, THREE CHILDREN WERE DROWN.
AND, UH, YOU KNOW, I THINK WE LOST NINE LIVES ABOUT, UH, 350 HOMES.
AND THAT WAS REALLY A RESULT OF THAT, KIND OF, THAT PIECEMEAL APPROACH.
SO WHAT ANOTHER BENEFIT THAT THIS BRINGS INTO YOU TO, UH, TO YOU IS IN DEVELOPING THESE TECHNICAL PRODUCTS.
UM, I HAVE, UH, NOAH AND THE UNIVERSITY CORPORATION FOR ATMOSPHERIC RESEARCH WORKING ON HOW MUCH RAINFALL WILL FALL.
I'VE GOT ANOTHER GROUP OF CLIENTS, CLIMATE SCIENTISTS FUNDED BY DOD, WORKING ON HOW IS THAT GONNA CHANGE IF WE UNDERGO CLIMATE CHANGE? WHERE WE GONNA SEE 10% MORE RAINFALL, 20%, 30%.
UH, WE HAVE AN ADVANCED SCIENCE TEAM COMPRISED OF THE US GEOLOGICAL SURVEY, THE FEMA, UH, THE, UH, NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE AND THE CORPS OF ENGINEERS WHO ARE WORKING ON PRODUCTS ACROSS ENTIRE WATERSHEDS.
AND THE TRINITY IS ONE OF THEM OF ONCE THAT RAINFALL FALLS, HOW MUCH WATER IS GONNA BE THERE, UH, HOW MUCH WATER WILL, WILL BE REALIZED.
SO THOSE PRODUCTS GET BROUGHT IN WHEN YOU BRING US IN, AND THEY CAN BE USED TO DETERMINE HOW DEEP IS THAT WATER GONNA BE AND HOW DEEP THE WATER IS GONNA BE, IS KINDA, UH, WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT DETERMINING HERE, AND HOW MUCH WATER THAT IS STORED OUT IN THE FRINGES.
WE'RE ALMOST DONE, I THINK THIS
SO ADDITIONAL BENEFITS BEYOND THOSE ALREADY RECOGNIZED THROUGH THE PROGRAM, UM, THE AREA AVAILABLE FOR DEVELOPMENT IS ALREADY ESTABLISHED IN NO.
UM, THAT WILL HELP YOUR GROWTH AS IT OCCURS OVER THE NEXT NUMBER OF DECADES.
UH, THERE'LL BE REDUCED TIME AND COST TO DEVELOPERS IN, IN OBTAINING THE APPROVALS FOR THE FLOODPLAIN MAPPING AND THE MODELING AND THE PERMITS THAT THEY NEED TO GET.
THERE'S REDUCED TIME AND COST ASSOCIATED WITH YOUR STAFF, UM, PRODUCING THOSE FLOOD PLAIN MATERIALS.
REVIEWING AND COMPARING FLOODPLAIN MODELING.
THIS AREA, PARTICULARLY FOR KAUFFMAN COUNTY.
SO OUTSIDE OF THOSE CITY AREAS AND ETJ IS YOUR STAFF.
THEY'RE WORKING ON DEVELOPMENT THAT OCCURS ALONG THESE SECTIONS ALONG THE EAST FOR, SO THAT'S A BIG AREA FOR YOUR FOLKS TO BE COVERING.
AND IT'S, IT'S A LOT OF EFFORT ASSOCIATED WITH THAT.
SO REDUCE TIME AND COST, YOU KNOW, UM, IT HAS A CUMULATIVE OF THAT.
UM, AND THEN INSURANCE RATES, FEMA INSURANCE RATES.
FEMA IS ESTABLISHED TO PROTECT HOUSING.
AND SO A HOUSE THAT SITS IN A ZONE A, WE TALKED ABOUT THIS, UH, ESPORT BEING A ZONE, A UNSTUDIED AREA.
UM, WHEREAS A, A HOUSE ALONG AN AN AE FEMA AE, WHICH IS A STUDIED AREA WHERE THERE'S NO WATER SURFACE ELEVATIONS, AGAIN, THOSE ELEVATIONS GO BACK TO THE FLOWS FROM 1970, BUT WHERE THERE'S NO ELEVATIONS, YOUR RESIDENT MAY BE PAYING HUNDREDS OF DOLLARS FOR THEIR FLOOD INSURANCE IF THEY'RE WITHIN THAT AREA.
UH, WHEN IT GOES TO AN A AND IT'S AN UNSTUDIED AREA, IF YOU DON'T CHANGE THOSE FEMA MAPS BY DOING A STUDY THAT COSTS THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS, THEY'RE GONNA PAY AT LEAST 3000.
SO IT'S, THERE'S A VERY DIFFERENT RATE OR HOMES THAT GET BILLED ALONG WITH ZONE A, WHICH IS WHAT THE EASTPORT IS TODAY VERSUS A STUDIED, UM, MAPPED FEMA POLE PLANE.
SO, MIA, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TO ADD TO ALL THAT AUTHORITY? SO THE ORDINANCE? YES.
SO EACH OF THE, EACH OF THE NINE CITIES AND THE THREE COUNTIES, AT LEAST TWO OF THE THREE COUNTIES.
'CAUSE FINTON HAS JUST A, SUCH A SMALL IMPACT.
BACK IN THE EIGHTIES, UH, THERE WERE RESOLUTIONS PASSED BY EACH OF THOSE COMMUNITIES AS THEY ENTERED THIS PROGRAM AND AGREED TO THOSE THREE CRITERIA THAT WE FOCUSED ON.
UM, THESE THREE, UM, EACH OF THOSE COMMUNITIES, WHEN THEY AGREED TO PARTICIPATE IN THIS PROGRAM, THEY ALSO ADOPTED A RESOLUTION, WHETHER THROUGH THEIR COUNTY
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COMMISSIONER'S COURT OR WHETHER THROUGH THEIR CITY COUNCILS, STATING THAT THEY WOULD, UM, PARTICIPATE IN THIS PROGRAM AND UPHOLD THE PARAMETERS THAT THEY ESTABLISHED TOGETHER, UM, IN PER PERPETUITY, UNLESS THEY DECIDED THEY WERE NOT GONNA PARTICIPATE ANYMORESO, UM, WE WOULD, THAT WOULD BE ONE OF THE STEPS MOVING FORWARD.
YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE EARLY STEPS, IF YOU'RE INTERESTED AS KAUFMAN COUNTY, WE'LL GET WITH ELLIS COUNTY AND, AND TALK ABOUT THEIR LITTLE SEGMENT ALONG THE TRINITY PROGRAM.
UM, BUT THEN WE WOULD START DEVELOPING COSTS FOR, YOU KNOW, WORKING WITH THE FEDERAL EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT AGENCY.
'CAUSE IT'S A ZONE A AND THEY DON'T LIKE THAT EITHER.
UM, WE WORK WITH THEM TO ESTABLISH SOME FUNDING TO HELP, UH, CONTRIBUTE TO, TO THE OVERALL COST.
WE WORK WITH THE CORE AND SEE IF WE COULD LOCATE ANY FUNDING TO HELP WITH THESE COSTS.
THEY'RE ALREADY DOING OUT THERE, DOING A LOT OF STUDIES IN OUR REGION AND ALONG THE TRINITY.
SO THERE MAY BE SOME, SOME BENEFIT TO TIMING RIGHT NOW.
UM, AND THEN WE WOULD WORK WITH THOSE COMMUNITIES AND THE COUNTIES TO, UH, THE WAY THAT WE'VE DONE THIS IN THE OTHER CORRIDORS THAT WE SAW THE EXISTING PROGRAM IS IT'S A PERCENTAGE OF THE WATERSHED THAT'S IMPACTED BY THAT COMMUNITY.
THAT'S KIND OF THE COST SHARE, UH, FOR FUNDING DIFFERENT, DIFFERENT THINGS THAT, THAT COME UP ALONG THE WAY.
SO WE WOULD ASK YOU IF YOU'RE INTERESTED IN, IN JOINING THIS PROGRAM AND ADDING TO THE EFFECTIVENESS, WE WOULD ASK THAT YOU PASS A RE RESOLUTION WITHIN YOUR COMMUNITY OR WITHIN YOUR COUNTY AGREEING TO SUPPORT THESE CRITERIA, UM, WITHIN THAT FOOTPRINT THAT WE WOULD ESTABLISH.
IS THAT WHERE YOU WERE GOING? WELL, AND ALSO THE STATE LAW THAT WAS PASSED THAT ALLOWS COUNTIES TO REGULATE.
I DIDN'T, YOU KNOW, WELL THERE'S THAT TO YOU.
SO WE
WE WORK ON WATERSHED MANAGEMENT IN GENERAL THROUGHOUT THE REGION.
SO IT'S NOT JUST THIS CORRIDOR THAT WE'VE PRESENTED TO YOU.
WE WORK WITH THE ENTIRE REGION.
WE HAVE A PROGRAM CALLED INTEGRATED STORM WATER MANAGEMENT RIGHT NOW, UM, THAT OUR CITIES PARTICIPATE IN.
AND, AND REALLY WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE IS, IS IT'S GREEN INFRASTRUCTURE EFFORTS THAT HELP THAT WATER AS IT RAINS, HELPS THAT WATER ABSORB INTO THE GROUND WITH DEVELOPMENT.
SO INSTEAD OF A WALMART POUR IN A PARKING LOT FULL OF CONCRETE, NOT INCLUDING ANY TREE ISLANDS, NOT INCLUDING ANY RAIN GARDENS, NOT INCLUDING ANY BIOSWELLS, NOT INCLUDING ANY, UH, DETENTION AREAS INSTEAD OF JUST FOREIGN CONCRETE.
WE ENCOURAGE THE, THE USE OF ALL THOSE DIFFERENT FEATURES.
UM, SOME HAVE DONE GREEN ROOT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A WHOLE VARIETY OF OPTIONS THAT YOU CAN INCLUDE IN ANY GIVEN DEVELOPMENT TO REDUCE THE IMPACT OF THAT DEVELOPMENT.
SO THAT WHAT RUNS OFF AFTER THE DEVELOPMENT IS SIMILAR TO WHAT RAN OFF BEFORE THAT DEVELOPMENT EXISTED.
SO WE HAVE AN ADDITIONAL PROGRAM THAT LOOKS AT NOT ONLY WATER QUALITY, BUT WATER QUANTITY, THAT'S CALLED INTEGRATED STORM WATER MANAGEMENT.
SO MANY OF YOU PROBABLY ALREADY HEARD ABOUT THAT.
IF YOU HAVEN'T IN YOUR INTERESTED, PLEASE LET US KNOW.
WE'LL COME AND TALK WITH YOU ABOUT THAT.
WHAT WE'VE LEARNED IN THAT EFFORT IS THAT, UM, SOME OF OUR COUNTIES BELIEVE THAT THEY'RE SO RESTRICTED BY REGULATIONS AND, AND BY LAW THAT THEY CAN'T IMPLEMENT HIGHER STANDARDS LIKE THAT.
UM, AND, AND CONTROL THEIR WATERSHED MANAGEMENT AND THE DEVELOPMENTS.
UM, THEY BELIEVE THAT THEY'RE RESTRICTED TO, LET'S SAY, JUST THE FEMA MINIMUM STANDARDS WITHIN ANY PARTICULAR STREAM.
THERE HAS BEEN LEGISLATION PASSED THAT ALLOWS HIGHER STANDARDS AND IT DOESN'T, IT DOESN'T PUT A, A TOP END, IT DOESN'T PUT A BOTTOM END.
IT JUST ALLOWS FOR, FOR GOVERNMENTS TO ENACT HIGHER STANDARDS.
UM, SO OVER THE NEXT MONTH WE'RE PRODUCING, AND I SAY WE LIBERALLY MISS THE BULK OF THIS WORK.
WE'RE PRODUCING A SURVEY TO REACH OUT TO OUR 16 COUNTIES AND SAY, WHAT, WHAT FLOOD PLAIN MANAGEMENT EFFORTS DO YOU HAVE IN YOUR BOOKS? WHAT REGULATIONS ARE YOU ENFORCING SO THAT WE CAN UNDERSTAND KIND OF THAT BASELINE OF FLOOD PLAIN MANAGEMENT, WATERSHED MANAGEMENT OUT THERE.
THEN WE'RE GOING TO SET UP EARLY MARCH, MAYBE LATE FEBRUARY, A ROUND TABLE DISCUSSION SPECIFICALLY WITH OUR COUNTY MEMBERS AND TALK WITH THEM ABOUT, OKAY, SO HERE'S WHAT WE'VE LEARNED IS KIND OF THE BASELINE FOR THE STANDARDS THAT ARE BEING APPLIED TODAY.
AND THEY'RE ALL OVER THE PLACE.
I CAN TELL YOU THAT BETWEEN OUR 16 COUNTIES, SOME REGULATE TO THIS STANDARD AND SOME REGULATE TO THIS STANDARD.
UM, SO WE WANNA HAVE A ROUND TABLE DISCUSSION AND, AND ESTABLISH, OKAY, HERE'S YOUR BASELINE THAT WE'VE LEARNED FROM OUR SURVEY.
AND THEN HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT WHAT, WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO BE DOING? WHAT WOULD HELP YOU AS COUNTIES PROTECT YOUR WATERSHEDS, PRESERVE YOUR WATER QUALITY PRESERVE, PREVENT SOME OF THE FLOODING OUT THERE, IMPLEMENT
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SOME MEASURES, SOME HIGHER STANDARDS.WHAT WOULD THAT NEW BASELINE DESIRABLE BASELINE BE FOR CONSISTENT APPLICATION ACROSS OUR REGION? UM, WITH THAT INFORMATION, OUR INTENT IS THEN TO WORK WITH THE DISTRICT ATTORNEYS FROM THE DIFFERENT COUNTY AREAS TO SHOW THEM THIS LEGISLATION THAT WAS PASSED THAT ENABLES THE COUNTY TO DO MORE THAN THAT.
SO WE FIRST RAN INTO THIS, UH, WE KIND OF KNEW ABOUT IT.
TRANSPORTATION SUFFERS A LOT FROM THE, THE GROWTH THAT'S OCCURRING IN ALL THE WATER THAT'S, THAT'S BEING, UM, INCREASED THROUGHOUT THEIR DIFFERENT CORRIDORS.
THEY DESIGN FOR ONE THING AND THEN 10 YEARS LATER IT'S, IT'S, IT'S NO GOOD BECAUSE THERE'S MORE WATER COMING THROUGH.
UM, SO THEY'RE A PARTNER TO US ON THIS.
UM, BUT WE WANT TO, WE WANT TO TALK WITH THE DISTRICT ATTORNEYS AND MAKE SURE THAT OUR COUNTIES NOT ONLY KNOW WHAT THEY CAN DO, BUT THEN ARE ALSO ENABLED FROM THEIR DISTRICT ATTORNEYS TO BE ABLE TO IMPLEMENT THOSE HIGHER STANDARDS.
WE DON'T KNOW WHAT, YOU KNOW, THE PREFERRED HIGHER STANDARDS ARE YET UNTIL WE HAVE THE ROUND TABLE DISCUSSION.
SO YOU'LL BE SEEING A SURVEY FROM US ASKING YOU TO, UM, PARTICIPATE IN THAT ROUND TABLE DISCUSSION AND ALYSSA WILL BE THERE, UM, TO DETERMINE WHAT'S BEING DONE TODAY AND WHAT WOULD WE LIKE TO DO TOGETHER.
SO WITH THAT, THAT WAS, THAT WAS WHAT WE HAD FOR OUR PRESENTATION TODAY.
AND AGAIN, IT'S, IT'S INFORMATION FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.
IT'S A QUESTION OF DO YOU HAVE AN INTEREST IN PARTICIPATING IN THIS TYPE OF PROGRAM WHERE YOU APPLY THOSE THREE CRITERIA, YOU WORK WITH THE OTHER COMMUNITIES, UM, AND, UM, PARTNER WITH THE CORE AND WITH US AND WITH FEMA.
AND UM, SOMETIMES THE WATER DEVELOPMENT BOARD WILL ALSO THROW IN SOME FUNDING.
SO THAT'S ALWAYS NICE WHEN WE'RE ABLE TO APPLY TO THEM AND ACTUALLY GET SOME FUNDING.
UH, WE'RE WORKING WITHIN RIGHT NOW ON FLOOD GAUGES.
SO, UM, THAT WOULD BE OUR REQUEST OF YOU.
WE WILL WAIT TO HEAR BACK FROM YOU, BUT I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE.
COST IS RELATED TO PERCENT OF WATERSHED.
THAT'S HOW WE HAVE, WHAT IS, WHAT IS OUR PERCENT OF WATERSHED TO Y'ALL GAUGE STATE YET? WE HAVEN'T YET, WE HAVEN'T ESTABLISHED WHAT THE COST IS OR WHAT THE COST, YOU KNOW, PERCENTAGE SHARE WOULD BE BECAUSE WE'RE STILL TRYING TO KIND OF GET THAT NOD
YOU'RE KAUFFMAN COUNTY IS KIND OF THE LAST, THE CITIES HAVE GIVEN US GENERALLY THE FEEDBACK THAT THEY'RE INTERESTED IN THIS.
THEY'RE CERTAINLY NOT OPPOSED TO WORKING TOGETHER ON THIS.
YOU SAW ALL THE COVERAGE THAT KAUFFMAN COUNTY HAS ALONG THAT EAST FOR IT'S NOT GONNA WORK, UM, WITHOUT YOUR INTEREST.
SO WE'RE, WE'RE STILL KIND OF LOOKING FOR THAT, AT LEAST A SUGGESTION OF YES, WE'RE INTERESTED, YES, WE'D LIKE YOU TO MOVE FORWARD AND GIVE US SOME MORE DATA SO THAT WE CAN, UM, PARTICIPATE IN THIS.
UH, I DON'T WANNA ASK, WE HAVE LIMITED RESOURCES AND I DON'T WANT TO ASK THE CORPS OF ENGINEERS TO EXPEND A LOT OF RESOURCES, DEVELOPING COSTS AND, AND SCOPE AND EVERYTHING AND, AND GOING OUT TO FEMA TO SECURE FUNDING IF WE DON'T AT LEAST HAVE A GESTURE OF YES, WE'RE INTERESTED.
WOULD IT BE HELPFUL TO KNOW THE RANGE OF WHAT THE CURRENT MEMBERS ARE PAYING IS? YES, IT WOULD BE.
WELL THAT'S THE, THAT IS THE PARTICIPATION IN THE PROGRAM.
I THINK WHAT YOU'RE ASKING ABOUT IS THE COST TO DEVELOP THIS STUDY FOR THE EAST BOARD.
WELL, EVENTUALLY WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO LOOK AT THE ENTIRE PACKAGE, RIGHT.
SO WHAT HE'S SAYING WOULD BE VERY VALUABLE.
SO, UM, I DON'T HAVE THE NUMBERS IN FRONT OF ME.
UM, WE HAVE DALLAS IS THE, BY FAR THE BIGGEST PARTICIPANT 'CAUSE THEY HAVE THE MOST BENEFIT FROM THIS, UM, PROGRAM THAT WE HAVE.
AND THEY ARE AT 30,000, I BELIEVE, SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES.
UM, THAT'S THE, THAT'S THE BIG BENEFICIARY.
AND, AND, UH, THEY GET A LOT OF, IS THAT A YEARLY FEE? ANNUAL FEE? THAT ANNUAL FEE.
THEY PARTICIPATE AND THAT'S WHERE THEIR PERCENTAGE AT THE TRINITY RIVER THROUGHOUT THE, THE DISTANCE OF DALLAS, UH, THE COUNTIES, I BELIEVE THAT'S 3000.
I THINK WE PAY 5,000 ANNUALLY FOR THE, TO PARTICIPATE IN MATERNITY.
NOW, NOW WE STILL HAVE TO FIND FUNDS TO GET THE ORIGINAL, THE INITIAL STUDY DONE TO GET ALL THE MAPPING DONE AND ALL THAT.
AND THAT'S CONSIDERABLY MORE THAN THAT.
BUT, UH, BUT ONCE YOU GET THIS IN PLACE, THAT'S THE TYPE OF MONEY YOU'RE TALKING EVERY YEAR.
SO IT'S A REALLY SMALL AMOUNT OF MONEY TO BE IN THE PROGRAM.
AND THAT'S WHAT EDITH IS SAYING.
WE'LL TRY TO HELP TO BRING FUNDING FROM FEMA FROM THE CORE.
UH, YOU KNOW, I, I CAN'T TELL YOU, YOU KNOW, HOW WE'LL DO IT, WE'LL REACH OUT TO TEXAS WATER DEVELOPMENT BOARD, BUT WE'LL TRY TO GET THIS, THIS, THESE TECHNICAL PRODUCTS CREATED AND IN PLACE,
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UM, WITH THE MINIMUM IMPACT TO YOUR BUDGETS.I KNOW YOU DON'T HAVE A LOT OF, YOU KNOW, MONEY FLOATING AROUND.
UH, BUT, UH, BUT THAT'S OUR CHALLENGE.
ARMOR'S BRANCH, I THINK HAS A SMALL, THIS PROBABLY THE SMALLEST FRONTAGE ALONG THE CORRIDOR, AND I THINK THEY'RE AT LESS THAN 2000 HERE, IF THEY, OKAY.
BUT THE UPFRONT COST, YOU SAID IT'S CONSIDERABLY MORE.
WHAT DO YOU MEAN CONSIDERABLY? IT'S HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS.
YOU CAN'T BE EVEN MORE IF THERE'S NO MAPPING PRODUCTS.
BUT, YOU KNOW, LET US, LET US WITHOUT SECUR, LET US GO BACK.
IF YOU'RE INTERESTED IN THIS, YOU'RE NOT COMMITTING YOURSELF, UH, ANY, I MEAN, HE CAN BACK OUT ANY TIME.
THIS IS A TOTALLY VOLUNTARY PROGRAM, BUT, UH, IF YOU ARE INTERESTED, THE NEXT STEPS WOULD BE TO TRY TO PUT TOGETHER SOME COSTS.
SO WE HAVE SOME FUNDING TO DO THAT.
SO DEFINE ENTRANCE, LIKE PASS AGAINST RESOLUTION OR, UH, JUST RAISE OUR HANDS AND YEAH.
WE'RE, WE WOULD WANT TO GET TO THE POINT WHERE YOU WOULD SAY, YES, WE WILL PASS A RESOLUTION.
WE UNDERSTAND THAT YOU WOULD NEED COSTS BEFORE YOU, YOU VENTURE TO THAT POINT.
UM, BUT THAT'S, THAT'S KIND OF THE LAST STEP BEFORE WE, YOU KNOW, DEVELOPED PRODUCTS AND THE CITIES IN CALIN COUNTY THAT YOU'VE HAD A CHANCE TO VISIT WITH, UH, FORNEY AND ALL THOSE THAT WERE LISTED UP THERE, UH, HAVE INDICATED THEY ARE INTERESTED, THEY'RE INTERESTED, AGAIN, ABSENT COSTS OR ANYTHING.
THE PROGRAM AS A WHOLE, THEY'RE PREPARED TO SUPPORT THOSE THREE INITIATIVES WITHIN THEIR COMMUNITIES IN ORDER TO REDUCE THE FLOOD RISK.
SOME OF THEM HAVE EVEN ASKED, CAN YOU GO UPSTREAM? WELL, LET'S, LET'S TRY WORKING WITH THE
YOU KNOW, WE LOOKED AT UPSTREAM AND I THINK WE CAME UP WITH 40 OR SOMETHING COMMUNITIES AND IT WAS JUST KIND OF OVERWHELMING TO THINK ABOUT THAT.
SO WHAT WE RESOLVED WITH, LET'S, LET'S JUST START WITH RAY HOWARD DOWN, AND THEN WE DO HAVE A SEPARATE EFFORT THAT COREY AND MIA WORK ON.
THAT'S A PARTNERSHIP WITH FEMA WHERE WE'RE GONNA BE LOOKING AT THE WHOLE OF THE CEDAR WATERSHED.
UM,
I, I WOULD NEED TO PUT IN MAP UP TO SHOW THAT.
BUT IT'S IN THIS GENERAL AREA.
AND LAVONNE IS GONNA MITIGATE THE GROWTH TO SOME EXTENT UPSTREAM OF THE RESERVOIR.
AND SO WE'RE NOT QUITE AS, UH, IMPACTED BY THAT GROWTH, ALTHOUGH, YOU KNOW, WE DO WANT TO HIT THE, THOSE COMMUNITIES.
BUT IT'S LIKE
SO AS FAR AS THE NEXT STEPS ARE CONCERNED, YES.
AND OF COURSE WE'RE HERE ON JUST A WORKSHOP TODAY WITH THE COMMISSIONERS AND OBVIOUSLY VARIOUS CITIES ARE RECOMMENDED.
OUR NEXT STEP WOULD BE TO HEAR FROM YOU GUYS AT A COURT MEETING AT SOME POINT.
OR DO WE NEED ANOTHER WORKSHOP? OR YOU JUST, WE CAN'T VOTE, YOU KNOW, BUT CORRECT.
TODAY, I MEAN, KIND OF NOD OUR HEADS AND SMILE OR SOMETHING.
IF YOU CAN GET TOGETHER AND SAY WE'RE YES, WE'RE INTERESTED ENOUGH FOR YOU TO DEVELOP SOME MATERIALS FOR US TO REVIEW, THAT WOULD BE WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR.
GAGE IS KIND OF OUR RESIDENT EXPERT, I WOULD SUPPOSE.
IT LOOKS SCARY, BUT I MEAN,
AND THAT FUNDING WAS PRIMARILY BROUGHT IN BY THE CORPS TO, TO FUND THAT.
NOW WE CAN'T, YOU KNOW, I CAN'T TELL YOU WHAT THE POLITICAL CLIMATE IS IN WASHINGTON.
UH, YOU KNOW, WE ARE PARTNERED WITH FEMA SO WE'LL BRING THEM INTO THESE DISCUSSIONS.
BUT, BUT I CAN TELL YOU DRAINAGE, WE ARE, UH, STORM WATER MANAGEMENT.
WE'RE THE, WE'RE THE POOR COMMUNITY OUT THERE.
TRANSPORTATION'S WHERE THE BUCKS ARE.
BUT ALL ALL AREAS OF INFRASTRUCTURE, TRANSPORTATION, UH, SANITARY SEWER, WATER, THEY'RE ALL IMPACTED BY STORM WATER ISSUES.
AND SO WE WILL REACH OUT TO THEM AND WE WILL MAKE THEM AWARE OF THIS EFFORT AND WE'LL TRY TO BRING THEM IN WITH, WITH ADDITIONAL SUPPORT.
AND HE IS AWARE OF THIS, BUT OUR, SOME OF OUR CITIES ARE LOOKING AT MAYBE COMING TOGETHER AND TRYING TO DO SOME SORT OF A REGIONAL, UH, WASTEWATER TREATMENT OR AT LEAST A PIPELINE GOING TO A LARGER FACILITY WITH THE NORTH TEXAS MUNICIPAL WATER DISTRICT.
SO THESE ARE KIND OF HAPPENING ABOUT THE SAME TIME A FEW YEARS.
I MEAN THERE'S A LOT OF GROWTH COMING AND YOU CAN FOCUS YOUR EFFORTS IN, IN DIFFERENT AREAS.
UM, SO TODAY WE'RE LOOKING AT, AT FLOOD PLAIN ALONG THIS PARTICULAR CORRIDOR.
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IT CAN HAVE A HUGE EFFECT BECAUSE IF YOU DON'T ADDRESS THIS CORRIDOR, YOUR TRIBUTARIES REALLY DON'T HAVE A CHANCE.IF THIS CORRIDOR GETS PLUGGED UP AND, AND FLOODING OCCURS WITHIN THIS CORRIDOR, INDIVIDUAL COMMUNITIES AND THOSE TRIBUTARIES INTO THIS PORTAL, IT'S CALLED BACKWATER.
THERE'S JUST NO NO REALLY COMING DOWN FROM A BACKUP MAJOR PORTAL LIKE THIS ONE, YOU DEPLETE THE STORAGE IN THE MAIN RIVER.
SOME OF THAT STORAGE HAS GOTTA GET ADDED INTO THOSE TRIBUTARIES.
DO YOU KNOW WHAT THE LEGISLATION WAS THAT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT? I HAVE IT, I DON'T HAVE IT ON THE TOP OF MY HEAD, BUT I HAVE IT HERE.
SO IF YOU CAN LET ME TALK WITH YOU AFTER I HAD IT ON MY PHONE, THEN I CAN LOOK THAT REAL QUICK.
I PROBABLY PUT HER ON THE SPOT FOR THAT BEFORE SHE NO, IT'S FINE.
UH, I, YOU KNOW, I KNOW WE, EVERYBODY'S BUSY, BUT ANYBODY HAVE ANY COMMENTS BEFORE AND YOU'RE GONNA BE ABLE TO STICK AROUND? YES, ABSOLUTELY.
YOUR CONTACT INFORMATION, I'M SURE WE'LL BE ABLE TO GET.
MY MINE WAS SORT OF ALONG THE LINES OF YOURS OF TIMELINE.
WHEN SHOULD WE START TALKING ABOUT THIS? WHEN SHOULD BE BRINGING BEFORE COUNCIL? I WOULD SAY KIND OF GIVE US SOME GUIDANCE ON, BECAUSE AS YOU KNOW, WE ALL HAVE BUDGETS TO PREPARE FOR AND WE NEED TO BRING IT BEFORE COUNCIL.
BUT I JUST KIND OF WANT AN IDEA OF THE TIMELINE AND WHEN WE NEED TO KIND OF GET THIS, YOU NEED AN ANSWER, SO TO SPEAK.
I NEED AN INDICATION OF YOUR INTEREST.
SO I'M WITH WAL SPRINGS, BY THE WAY.
AND AND WE'VE HAD A LOT OF, OF ENCOURAGEMENT FROM WAL SPRINGS.
I THINK YOUR CITY MANAGER WAS IN ONE OF OUR MEETING.
UM, AND SO I WOULD SAY TALKING NOW IS GOOD.
YOU KNOW, GIVE US, WE DON'T HAVE IN WRITING ANYTHING FROM ANYONE RIGHT NOW.
WE JUST HAVE NODS IN MEETINGS OF, OF FOLKS SAYING, YEAH, THIS SOUNDS LIKE SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD BE THINKING ABOUT.
SO, UM, IF YOU ARE ABLE TO PROVIDE US SOMETHING IN WRITING THAT SAYS WE'RE INTERESTED IN THIS ADDITION TO OUR PROGRAMS, UM, WE'D LIKE YOU TO MOVE FORWARD WITH SOME STUDIES OR SOME COST ALLOCATIONS OR, YOU KNOW, START LOOKING AT THOSE THINGS.
ANYTHING THAT WE CAN GET FROM YOU HELPS US COLLECTIVELY.
BECAUSE WHAT, WHAT BECOMES APPARENT WHEN WE HAVE THAT INFORMATION IS WHERE WE HAVE GAPS, WHERE WE HAVE COMMUNITIES THAT ARE JUST NOT INTERESTED.
AND SO THEN WE'RE ABLE TO TALK WITH THOSE COMMUNITIES AND SAY, WE HAVE THE SUPPORT OF, OF THESE FOR MOVING FORWARD.
UM, WE'D REALLY LIKE YOU TO CONSIDER THIS AS AN OPTION.
WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT DOING IS STARTING THE PROCESS.
WE'RE NOT FLIPPING A LIGHT SWITCH AND SHIFTING GEARS.
UH, THERE'S A LOT OF WORK THAT HAS TO BE DONE, A LOT OF STEPS.
THERE'S GONNA BE, UH, COMMISSIONER AND COUNCIL ACTIONS THAT ARE GONNA BE REQUIRED ALONG THE WAY.
SO THIS ISN'T GONNA HAPPEN, UH, YOU KNOW, OVERNIGHT.
THIS IS GONNA TAKE, BUT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ARE YOU GUYS INTERESTED IN STARTING THIS PROCESS, PUTTING NUMBERS TOGETHER, COMING TOGETHER AND TRYING TO GET SOMETHING GOING TO GET OUT IN FRONT OF THIS GROWTH AND DEVELOPMENT.
THAT WAS GREAT INFORMATION, BUT I DON'T THINK OF ANY QUESTION.
SO YOU REALLY JUST WANT AN INFORMAL, THE NON-BINDING COMMITMENT TO SAY THAT WE ARE INTERESTED.
WE NEED TO START AND WE CAN SEND THAT TO YOU RIGHT AWAY SO YOU CAN GET STARTED TO KNOW WHO'S ON BOARD.
AND A COUPLE OF CHAMPIONS IN THIS AREA WOULD BE GREAT TO, YOU KNOW, SOME FOLKS LIKE THE JUDGE HERE AND OTHERS THAT CAN, CAN HELP US WITH THE, UH, YOU KNOW, THE HIGHER LEVEL COMMUNICATION OF THE IMPORTANCE WE SERVE AND DO EVERYTHING WE CAN DO.
WE, WE HAVE A GROUP CALLED THE LIN COUNTY LEADERSHIP, UH, COUNCIL THAT MEETS QUARTERLY AND WE INVITE ALL THE CITIES AND IN FACT, THEY HAVE A MEETING COMING UP PRETTY SOON.
I DON'T REMEMBER WHEN IT IS, BUT, UH, I DON'T KNOW THAT WE NEED TO DO THAT NOW, BUT IT CERTAINLY MIGHT, CAN MAKE THAT AVAILABLE.
BUT I, I'LL ASSURE YOU, MY OFFICE WILL HELP DISTRIBUTE THE INFORMATION ABOUT WHAT, WHAT'S GOING ON.
AND SO WE'D BE PLEASED TO DO THAT.
OTHER QUESTIONS BEFORE I KNOW SHE'S GOING TO BE AVAILABLE, I KNOW A LOT OF YOU HAVE OTHER UTS AND RESPONSIBILITIES AND UH, CHUG HOLD YOU NEED TO FILL UP AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF.
SO, UH, ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANYTHING SAY, WELL, THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.
AND YEAH, I KNOW YOU'LL BE AROUND A LITTLE BIT AND THIS IS GREAT INFORMATION.
I HAVEN'T REALLY, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T SIT AROUND AND DWELL ON RIVER FLOW.
MOST OF US DON'T UNTIL
WELL, THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR TIME.
I APPRECIATE BEING ABLE TO COME, COME IN AND
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TALK WITH YOU ABOUT THE POTENTIAL.