* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. IN THE MIDDLE OF [00:00:01] THE PAGE FOR THE COLUMN FOR 2017 AND A COLUMN FOR 20 18, 19 20, AND THEN A DELTA COLUMN ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE. SO AT THE BOTTOM THERE, WE'VE GOT 13 MILLION 3 48, AND 2017 WE'VE GOT 6 MILLION 9 41 AND FIVE, AND THEN 2,000,009 OH FOUR'S NOT YET OUT. SO THE, YOU KNOW, THE AUDITOR I DISCUSSED THIS MORNING THAT, YOU KNOW, IF YOU LOOK AT THE 2 20 18, UH, 6,000,009 40, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THAT COULD BE IN ONE YEAR INVESTMENT, SOME OF IT IN 18 MONTH INVESTMENTS, AND SOME IN THE SAME 20 THAT COULD BE IN TWO YEAR, AND SOME OF IT MAY BE EVEN THREE YEAR. AND THEN THE, THE, THE UNALLOCATED MONEY OF 2,000,009, YOU KNOW, WE CAN CHOOSE TO PUT THAT IN TWO YEAR, THREE YEAR. AND THEN WHEN YOU COME BACK TO THE 20, YOU KNOW, WE'RE ALREADY HERE HALFWAY THROUGH THE YEAR AND WE MIGHT GET A, A LITTLE BETTER INSIDE ON THE 2017 COLUMN. SOME OF THAT MAY BE ONE YEAR AND 18 MONTH. THIS IS, THIS MONEY IS ALL ANYWAY, MAKING 90 BASIS POINTS. SO UNLESS WE'RE GOING GO FURTHER THAN A YEAR, WE'RE JUST BETTER A POOL. AND, YOU KNOW, WITH, I THINK IF, IF WE'RE IN CONSENSUS HERE, I THINK WHAT WE WOULD PROPOSE IS TO COME BACK TO THE COURT, UM, PROBABLY ANOTHER WORKSHOP WHERE WE GO, OKAY, HERE'S, HERE'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN DO. IN OTHER WORDS, UH, DEFINITE TIME PERIODS WHERE WE KNOW THERE'S, UH, BANKS DOING C WE, WE KNOW WE CAN DO BANK CDS FOR 18 MONTHS AT THIS. YOU KNOW, HERE'S SOME EXAMPLES OF THAT. WATER. HERE'S TWO YEAR CD, HERE'S EXAMPLES, 3D THREE YEARS, AND THEN, AND THAT'S ALL THAT BANK CD. AND AMERICAN NATIONAL HAS A FUNCTION IN THEIR BANK WHERE THEY WILL HELP US MANAGE THOSE OUT OF THEIR BANK CD AS AN OPTION. YOU KNOW, AND, AND THAT KEEPS US FROM DOING ANYTHING LIKE GOVERNMENT SECURITIES, LIKE FEDERAL BANK BOARD OR, OR, OR ANY OF THOSE AGENCY, UH, VENTURES. YOU KNOW, HERE WE CAN DO SOMETHING IN A, IN A FIRST RUN WHERE WE'RE JUST DOING BANK CDS WHERE WE'RE ALL FAMILIAR WITH THE TWO $50,000 FDIC INSURANCE AND YOU KNOW, WE'RE LOOKING, WE'RE PULLING UP $5 MILLION, THAT'S 20 CDS FIVE. AND WE, AND WE HAVE THEM SO THAT WE HAVE MONEY, YOU KNOW, 18 MONTHS OUT. WE HAVE SOME CDS THAT ARE GONNA MATURE, SOME THAT ARE GONNA MATURE IN TWO YEARS, SOME IN 30 MONTHS, SOME IN 36 MONTHS. SO WE ALWAYS HAVE MONEY COMING DUE, WE'RE NOT. OKAY. THEN YOU HAVE AN ITEM HERE ON THE, UH, NAME OF THE PERSON MEMBER INVESTMENT. WE'VE NEVER DONE THAT IN THIS PART TIME. SO, UH, WE CAN'T DO THAT TODAY, BUT DIDN'T BE ABSENT THAT DAY. UH, SOMETIMES WE SAW THAT IT WORKS, JUDGE. UH, WE DID DISCUSS WITH THE, UM, TEXT PROCESS. WHAT TEXT. OKAY. CALLED LOGIC. WHEN I, UH, WENT AND LOOKED AT THEIR RATES, THEY WERE JUST A LITTLE BIT HIGHER. HMM. SO, UH, WOULD YOU WANT THAT? I, I'VE LOOKED AT ALL THE FINANCIAL, I'M [00:05:01] HAPPY TO, I MEAN, I'LL BE HAPPY TO SERVE, SEND YOU WANT FROM THE SIXTH 13. WE'RE NOT, IT'S TOO LATE. WE ACTUALLY, ONE OF THE THINGS I WANTED TO MENTION YOU WE'RE, I THINK, WE'LL THAT TO FRIDAY, OUR MEETING AT THE END OF THE MONTH, IT'LL BE ON FRIDAY THE 24TH. MONDAY OR REGULAR. ABSOLUTELY. OKAY. AND NOW YOU'RE PROBABLY WITH YOUR OTHER OBLIGATIONS, YOU'RE ALREADY PROBABLY TAKING SOME PUBLIC INVESTMENT. IT HAS, WHENEVER I WAS IN SCHOOL BUSINESS, I CREDITED THAT AND I'M SURE I'M STILL READ IT, BUT I'VE BEEN GETTING MY, IS THAT PART OF THE REQUIREMENT? IT ACTUALLY IS CONSIDER, WELL, AND I'M NOT SURE JUDGE, THAT IT'S A REQUIRE. I, I WENT ON THE TREASURER'S EMAIL LIST. I SEE A VARIETY OF THE MOST EXCITING IN THE I'M THAN TO DO IT. PLENTY OPPORTUNITY. OKAY. I APPRECIATE TIME. ALRIGHT, THE NEXT ITEM IS TO DISCUSS PLANS AND OPTIONS FOR FUTURE HOFFMAN COUNTY ANIMAL CONTROL AND ANIMAL SHELTER. AND THIS IS A MUCH DISCUSSED, LONG DISCUSSED ITEM, UH, EVER SINCE I'VE BEEN ON THE COURT, AND PRIMARILY BECAUSE WE WERE DEALING WITH, UH, UH, OUTSIDE, UH, GROUP, THAT HAS HELPED US VERY MUCH BY ALLOWING US TO, UH, UH, KEEP OUR ANIMALS THERE. BUT, UH, MOVEMENT HAS DISCUSSIONS BEEN OVER THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS ABOUT DOING OUR OWN THING. SO PAM, I DON'T KNOW, UH, ARE YOU GOING COME UP AND MAKE A PRESENTATION OR REBECCA AND KAREN GONNA COME WITH YOU, OR HOW YOU GONNA DO THAT? SHE'S, PAM HAS GOT A GREAT PRESENTATION AND IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS OR ANYTHING FOR US, WELL, WE'LL CERTAINLY BE GLAD TO ADDRESS OR, OR ASSIST IN ANY WAY. OKAY. AND, AND I WANTED SEE TO BE HERE IN THIS PART TOO SINCE, UH, WE, PART OF THE DISCUSSION WE'LL HAVE LATER ON OF COURSE. PLUS WE JUST LIKE MANAGER, MAYOR, WE LOVE OUR ANIMALS TOO. OKAY. SO, UM, IF YOU LOOK THE MAIN THING THAT I, WHY SHOULD WE BUILD AN ANIMAL? THOSE ARE KIND OF THE DISCUSSION THAT MAYBE WE SHOULD START WITH. WHY SHOULD WE, WHY SHOULD WE DO IT? UM, KEEP OUR TAX DOLLARS IN THE COUNTY, BRINGING NOT THE ANIMALS TO, UM, HOPEFULLY WE CAN LOWER THE COST COST COSTING US RIGHT NOW. SO THOSE ARE MANY OF THE OTHER REASONS. DID ANY OF YOU HAVE ANY REASONS WHY YOU YEAH, I DO. ANIMAL SHELTER IS, THERE'S NO GUARANTEE THAT THEY'LL BE HERE TOMORROW. AND IF THEY'RE NOT HERE TOMORROW, IT'D BE CHEAPER TO GIVE IT THEM. UNLESS WE GET A LOT OF DONATIONS, YOU KNOW, ONLY COST, DO SOMETHING IN THE EVENING OR WEEKEND AND TAKE THEM TO THEM. THIS KIND OF STUFF. AND A RESIDENT THAT EVERYONE HAS TO GO PICK UP A DOG REALLY LETS YOU KNOW ABOUT IT. UM, I DON'T KNOW ABOUT ANYBODY ELSE, BUT JUST LET ONE GO DOG DOWN AND GO DOWN THERE ONE DAY LATE, OR LET THEM FIND ON WEDNESDAY, FIND OUT THEIR ANIMALS AND PICK UP ON IT TUESDAY AND THE SHELTER'S CLOSED ON WEDNESDAY AND THEY CAN'T GET TO THEIR DOG UNTIL [00:10:01] THEY GET REALLY UPSET. OR COULD BE LIKE THE ONE LADY DOWN THERE. BAD SITUATION ALL AROUND PLUS HUNDRED A MONTH. WELL, THAT'S WHAT I SAID. SO I MEAN THAT, THAT RATE SPEND GRAND COST 60,000 I THINK SO APPROXIMATELY. SO APPROXIMATELY IF WE TAKE WHAT WE HAVE IN OUR, AND THEN WE'VE ALSO OFFSET AT LEAST THREE QUARTERS OF OUR COSTS. I MEAN WE'RE, OH, JUST NOTICE. SO THAT'S, AND THEN EACH MONTH, WELL I KNOW WE'VE ALREADY THIS YEAR ABOVE LAST YEAR, WHAT YOU DOING IS YOU'RE ADDING TWO YEARS, 15, 16, 1 YEAR. SO THE 16, YEAH, BUT WE HAVE 1516 BUDGET ONE YEAR NEXT YEAR, 15 IT COSTS AND ABOUT 11 SIX AND THAT WHETHER WE HAVE NO, OR 50. YEAH, BECAUSE REALLY WE ONLY PAID 40 MONTH BECAUSE MAYOR AND MR. SLY, I BELIEVE Y'ALL PAID FOR ANIMALS. Y'ALL. AND IN YOUR PACKET THAT WAS MAILED SENT TO YOU, YOU HAVE WHAT THEY PICKED UP. SO LAST YEAR, THIS COMPLICATED 10,000 7 55. UM, PRETTY WELL ABOUT THE SAME THROUGHOUT SOMEWHERE AROUND 10. THE OFTEN PAY CONTROL, THAT'S JUST, I'M SORRY, THAT WAS IN JUST FOR HEARING. YES, YES. OKAY. SO, UM, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE ADOPTION CENTER, FIRST OF ALL, WE HAD FIND LOCATION, BUT I WOULD'VE LIKE TO SAY THANK YOU TO MR. BARBER BECAUSE I CALLED MR. CR AND HE GAVE ME, UM, INFORMATION ON 40 BY 20 BUILDING WOULD BE, AND WITH IT, THE LABOR WITH IT, AND THE, UM, CONCRETE, WHICH WOULD EXCLUDE THE TAXES, THE DIRT WORK, THE GOLD SAND, THE PERMITS, ELECTRICITY, THE HVA, THE PLUMBING AND FINISHING AT THE BEGINNING, 84,000, EIGHT 40. SO THAT'S REALLY A GOOD COST BECAUSE WE HAVE TWO 50,000, UM, WORKING WITH ONE OF THE S TO SEE HOW MUCH THE EQUIPMENT WOULD COST TO PUT INSIDE OF THE SHELTER. WHAT WE WOULD HAVE HAVE, SO 50 RUNS, AND YOU CAN SEE IT'S ON THE SECOND PAGE THAT I JUST GAVE YOU. THAT SHELTER EQUIPMENT WAS RUN ABOUT ONE 17,000. SO THAT LEAVES US ABOUT LITTLE, LITTLE TO FINISH THE BUILDING ON THE YEAH, BUT WE HAVE TO GET SOMEBODY ELSE. [00:15:05] WE DO HAVE A BACK HAVE LOW COST SHOT AND SPAN TOO, WHICH WE NOW HAVE IN, BUT IT'S STILL NOT AS BE FOR SOME, THE WHOLE PROBLEM IS, IS THAT EDUCATION. RIGHT. AND SO YOU HAVE TO SHELTER, HAVE YOUR VOLUNTEERS THAT COME IN AND THEY EDUCATE THE CLASSROOM. I KNOW WHEN I CAME IN AND STARTED EDUCATING ABOUT TREES, IT WAS AMAZING TO ME HOW MANY PEOPLE CHANGED THEIR WAY, WHAT THEY WERE DOING SAME DAY. MY ANIMALS WOULD GO OUT BECAUSE EVERYBODY HAD THEIR, WE WOULD JUST WANT 'EM AND WE'D CALL AND SAY, HEY, YOUR DOG IS HERE, COME GET YOUR DOG. AND, AND SO THE EDUCATION WOULD BE KEY YEAH. TO HAVING A FACILITY. AND I WOULD REMIND THE COURT, WE DID SET ASIDE BUDGET AS SEED MONEY FOR THIS PROJECT. SO NOT KNOWING HOW MUCH PROPERTY ABSOLUTELY. THROUGH DONATIONS AND THROUGH OTHER THINGS. I MEAN, AND IT, IT'S POSSIBLE. AND ONCE YOU, ONCE YOU BILL IN YOUR COUNTY, PEOPLE ARE GONNA BE WANTING TO GIVE TO. AND SO, UM, WE, WE HAD SOMEONE WHO'S GRACIOUS TO HELP CREATE A, WANTS TO HELP PUT MONEY INTO THAT ACCOUNT. UM, HAVING YOUR OWN SHELTER IN YOUR COUNTY GETS A PLACE FOR THE COMMUNITY TO GET, BECAUSE RIGHT NOW THEY'RE VOLUNTEERS. THERE ARE SO MANY PEOPLE WHO ARE INTERESTED VOLUNTEER. IT'S JUST CRAZY. UM, AND THE WOMEN'S SHELTERS, IT GIVES THEM SOMETHING TO DO. THERE'S SO MANY, THERE'S A GENTLEMAN WHO CALLS EVERY TWO WEEKS ASK, YOU KNOW, HOW ARE GOING, BECAUSE VOLUNTEERS EVERY DAY AND SIT CLEANS EVERY MORNING MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY. HE SHOWS THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO REALLY, REALLY CARE. UM, I, I'VE ALWAYS KIND OF, I FELT LIKE I JUST, I'M A LITTLE SCARED ABOUT TALKING ABOUT IT OUT IN THE PUBLIC MORE BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T BEEN AS COMMITTED. ONCE WE GET COMMITTED, WE PICK THE LOCATION, THEN WE CAN SAY, LOOK, THIS IS WHAT WE'RE DOING. AND THEN I GET, YOU WILL START HAVING PEOPLE START WANTING TO VOLUNTEER, YOU KNOW, WANTING TO DONATE AND DO THOSE THINGS. WELL, I, I THINK WE'VE MADE A PRETTY STRONG COMMITMENT. WE SET ASIDE COMMITMENT, I THINK, TO DO THAT. SO, BUT I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S A WIN-WIN FOR US AND FOR MANY OF OUR, UH, NEIGHBORING CITIES, INCLUDING OUR HOST CITY HERE, UH, THAT'S A GOOD WORD, HOST CITY. UH, THAT, I MEAN, THERE WILL BE SOME OF OUR CITIES I THINK THAT WILL COME HERE THAT WE WILL BE ABLE TO, UH, ASK THEM TO HELP PAY A FEE LIKE THEY DO WHEN THEY GO, UH, FEE FREE. RIGHT. DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO SAY THAT MAYOR, I I WOULD, I WOULD CONSIDER OFFERING MY A CO MY ANIMAL CONTROL OFFICER, UH, AS, YOU KNOW, WORKING IN THAT FACILITY, THAT FACILITY AS ANY KIND CONTRIBUTION, YOU KNOW, FOR ANIMAL SHELTER PROVISIONS, I MEAN FOR SERVICES, YOU KNOW, HE WOULD, THAT'S WHERE HE WOULD WORK. YOU'D HAVE AN A CO RIGHT THERE AND HE NEEDED, IF HE NEEDED HIS WORK WEEK, NEEDED TO BE TUESDAY THROUGH SATURDAY TO HAVE ONE ON THE SATURDAY OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, WE COULD WORK OUT SOME KIND OF ARRANGEMENT THERE. THAT WOULD BE HIS PLACE OF BUSINESS. I'M JUST TALKING OUT OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD. I THINK WE COULD WORK OUT SOME KIND OF ARRANGEMENT THAT WAY AS OPPOSED TO WORKING OUT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. AND YOU KNOW, ANIMAL SHELTERS GENERALLY, THEY DON'T OPEN UNTIL ABOUT 10 O'CLOCK BECAUSE THAT TIME TO GET EVERYTHING CLEANED UP. [00:20:01] AND THEN, LIKE YOU SAID, DEFINITELY THEY'LL BE OPEN ON ON SATURDAY BECAUSE THAT'S WHEN PEOPLE CAN COME AND DOGS THAT'S UTILIZE THE VOLUNTEERS SO STRONGLY WORKING ON SATURDAY. AND EVEN THOUGH YOU'RE CLOTHES ON SUNDAYS AND MONDAY, SOMEBODY STILL HAS TO COME IN AND CLEAN AND THEY HAVE TO BE THERE TO CLEAN WATER. SO I, I WANNA QUALIFY THAT I, YOU KNOW, THAT'S, NO, I THOUGHT THAT'S WHAT YOU WERE DOING. YOU KNOW, I'M SITTING HERE THINK, YOU KNOW, JOEL, WHO IS MY ANIMAL CONTROL OFFICER, I HAPPEN, I'M SITTING HERE THINKING HE'S, HE IS TIED DEEPLY TO A BUNCH OF OTHER ACTIVITIES THAT HAPPEN ON HAVE TO BE THERE EVERY SATURDAY AND SUNDAY. MAY YOU MAY SAY, YOU KNOW, NO, NO. BUT THE MORE PEOPLE YOU HAVE TO BE ABLE TO PULL FROM AND SCHEDULE MAYBE ONE SATURDAY, EVERY SIX. WE DON'T HAVE TO VOLUNTEERED, BUT CERTAINLY WE'RE, WE'RE OPEN MINDED TO WORKING ON SEVEN. AND SINCE IN PRECINCT, I WOULD THINK COMMISSIONER WASN'T PAYING ATTENTION. I WAS TRYING TO MAKE 300 A MONTH. WELL THAT KIND OF LEADS US THAT'S GOOD POINT. KIND US ABOUT THERE, THERE ARE, YOU KNOW, DAILY COSTS AND MONTHLY ANNUAL COST AFFILIATED WITH THIS KIND OF PUT TOGETHER. AND SO I SENT YOU A, UM, A CHART THAT KIND OF HAD THE COST ON IT AND IT WAS, IT WAS REALLY WAY, WAY HIGH. SO WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT, IT LOOKED LIKE THIS AND IT WAS VERY HIGH. AND I VISITED YESTERDAY PROBABLY FOR ABOUT THREE HOURS WITH A FRIEND BONNIE, WHICH IS, SHE DOES KCAP AND THE SPAY NEUTERING AND CRANDALL. BUT ANYWAY, SO IF YOU HAVE ADMINISTRATIVE COSTS, THAT WOULD BE LIKE YOUR OFFICE SUPPLIES, YOUR COPYING, YOUR INSURANCE AND YOUR MAILING POSTAGE. YOU SEE FOUR 50, YOUR ADOPTION EXPENSES, BECAUSE YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO GO OUT TO THE ADOPTION AREAS. YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO MAKE SURE THESE ANIMALS ARE MICRO AND YOUR TRANSPORTATION FEES. SO ABOUT 300, THE ANIMAL CARE WOULD BE THE FOOD COSTS AND THE NEL SUPPLIES. BUT ONE THING ABOUT THAT IS THERE ARE SOME SHELTERS THAT NEVER RUN, BUY A BANKRUPTCY, NEVER A FEE BECAUSE THEY ALL, AND A LOT OF THEM HAVE TO TURN IN PAY THAT WE WERE THAT LUCKY. BUT, SO THAT'S $800 A MONTH AND THAT'S ONLY REALLY HIGH, UM, YOUR EMPLOYEES. SO IF YOU HAD SOMEONE FULL-TIME AND THEY BE TWO PART-TIME AND THAT HAS A FRINGE BENEFIT, UM, DON'T HOLD YOU TO THAT EXACT AMOUNT. I JUST KIND GOT THE PERCENTAGE FROM KW AND THEN YOUR MEDICAL EXPENSES, YOU HAVE, UM, MEDICINE JUST AND ALL THOSE DIFFERENT THINGS THAT HAVE TO HAPPEN. YOU HAVE ABOUT, AND THAT BE HIGH OR, AND THEN WELL YOU ABOUT WET PAY, RIGHT? WE'RE NOT. AND THEN, WELL, IT MIGHT BE EXPENSE, BUT WE, WELL REALLY MIGHT BE ON OUR REPORT. MAYBE IT'LL COME IN. WE WOULDN'T DO IT UNLESS WE HAD THAT. AND THEN YOU, YOU'LL HAVE TO HAVE SOME OTHER FEES ASSOCIATED WITH THE SHELTER AND MAINTENANCE AND THINGS LIKE THAT. AND THAT'S AT 2000, I'M SURE THAT'S A LITTLE HIGH MONTHLY. AND THEN TRANSPORTATION COSTS 400. SO THOSE ARE THE OUTCOME, THOSE ARE THE NAMES THAT WE CAN SEE IF THEY PROBABLY PAY OUT. THAT'S WHY, THAT'S WHY TRANSPORTATION, YOU KNOW, ON THOSE COSTS STUFF, WE TALK ABOUT THE EMPLOYEES COST MONTH AND I KNOW Y'ALL ARE COMING ON THE, OF VOLUNTEERS FLYING. NO, I DON'T. IT MIGHT LAST FOR FIVE YEARS AND THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN WE FACILITIES. YEAH, WELL IT'S KIND OF EVEN YOU YOURSELF SAYS, YOU KNOW, I'M PASSIONATE ABOUT THIS AND I LOVE ANIMALS ALSO, BUT I MEAN, I DON'T WANNA BE UP THERE SCOOPING WASHING SLABS, YOU KNOW, SO VOLUNTEERISM IS KIND OF GOING DOWN AND [00:25:01] I'M SCARED THAT I THINK WE NEED TO PLAN FOR EMPLOYEES OR APPROACH TO KEEP THIS THING GOING BECAUSE IT'S A GOOD THING. IT'S A GOOD THING. BUT I DON'T WANNA SEE MIDDLE BUDGET YEAR. WE DON'T SPEED IT FIVE, BUT WE NEED, SHE ACTUALLY PLANNED THIS. BUT BASICALLY FOR , MOST OF THE SHELTER COUNTY FIVE, I DUNNO WHERE SHE'S GETTING TIME, EMPLOYEE AND TWO PARTTIME PARTTIME, BECAUSE PARTTIME WORK TAKES ABOUT THREE PEOPLE. WHAT DOES THE SHELTER DOWN IN, UH, ELLIS COUNTY, YOU WERE GONNA PROVIDE THAT ELLI COUNTY. UM, IF YOU LOOK, I HANDED IT TO YOU TODAY AND IT SHOWS ELLIS COUNTY COUNTY. SO WE DON'T DO ANYTHING LIKE THAT. BUT THEIR UM, WHAT THEIR PAYROLL? YEAH, THEIR PAYROLL IS THEIR SALARY. SO THEY HAVE THEIR MANAGER, UM, THEY HAVE IT ALL TOGETHER, BUT YOU SEE THEY HAVE GENERAL SALARY. SO THAT GENERAL MANAGER, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, THEY'VE GOT A LOT OF, BUT ALSO, UM, THEY'RE RUNNING S THEY'RE RUNNING SP CAS ACTUALLY RUNNING THEIRS. AND THAT'S WHAT WE KEEP BRINGING UP. WHETHER OR NOT SHOULD BE US, THE LIBRARY, WHATEVER, NON ORGANIZATION EXTRA. I HAVE A HARD TIME GETTING AWAY FROM IT. I JUST DON'T WANT ALL OF A SUDDEN TWO YEARS DOWN THE ROAD AND THEN ALL SO WE CAN YEAH. NOBODY TO VOLUNTEER TO DO IT. AND THEN ALL A SUDDEN CCBS SHOWS UP IN YOUR OFFICE. OH YES. AND EVEN NEED TO BE CAUTIOUS TO MAKE SURE WE, THE JOB NEEDS BEING DONE. RIGHT. WE'RE MONTH 20. I THINK ONCE WE GET THIS THING UP AND THEY'RE GONNA LINE UP, I THINK THEY'LL BE, ESPECIALLY, YOU KNOW, WITHIN THE CITIES. BUT A LOT OF IT'S NOT. I MEAN YOU GUYS SEE THAT EVERY DAY. A LOT OF IT'S OUT IN RURAL AREAS. WE DO HAVE A LOOSE LAW AND WE'RE WORKING ON THAT ORDER TRYING TO UM, ADD A LITTLE BIT MORE TO IT. I BELIEVE IT'LL BE, WE'LL BE BRINGING IT SOON TO THE COMMISSIONERS, BUT THEY HELP THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE AND PATROL OFFICER, SOME OF THESE ANIMALS, ANIMALS THAT GET OUTTA THE YARD AND THEY'RE DOWN AT THE NEIGHBOR'S HOUSE, TRASH CALL IN. AND SO WITHOUT PICKING ON ANY PARTICULAR, DON'T WE HAVE ISSUE PIT COUNTY? I DON'T, I IT BE A MIX AND MAINLY IT'S JUST A MIXED DOG. IT'S NOT JUST PIT PIT. WELL IT'S NOT. AND IF YOU THAT'S WHAT I BEEN LIVING. YEAH. I DON'T KNOW. WE SEE A LOT OF GREAT NEES, THEY'RE ROAMING DOGS. SO THERE'S SOMEONE'S DOGS AND THEY JUST ROAMED OFF AND THEN THEY FIND 'EM ON, ON THE CAKE. YOU KNOW, I'LL SAY THAT OUR FACEBOOK PAGE HELPS A LOT. AND I THINK I'VE READ OLOGY ABOUT THE FACE, FACE. UM, THERE'S ANIMALS OUT THERE THAT THEIR OWNERS JUST ARE GONE TO WORK FOR TODAY AND THEY NEVER KNOW WHERE TO GO FIND THE THEY SHELTER WE'RE. AND IT'S GONNA TAKE SOMEONE A LOT OF THAT KIND OF WORK TOO. IF WE DO FIND ONE, THEN WE'RE GONNA AT THAT POINT THEN IN ORDER RECEIVE THEM BACK COSTS. 11. YES. 11. THEY WON'T BE ALLOWED TO TAKE, BUT WE TALKED ABOUT EVERYTHING THAT WAS, SO INSTANCE ELLIS COUNTY, THEY ACTUALLY HAVE AN INCOME OF 277. THIS WAS 16 THROUGH 17. AND THEN THEY HAD, UM, EXPENSES OF 2 77 5 ON, ON THEIR INCOME. I KNOW. DID ANYBODY, DID, DID KAREN, DID ANY Y'ALL GET THAT BROKE DOWN FOR, BECAUSE I KNOW I ASKED, I ASKED ABOUT THAT. I ASKED HOW MUCH THE COUNTY WAS ACTUALLY PAYING [00:30:01] THEM BUDGET DONATIONS OR WHATEVER GET THAT. AND IT SHOWS IT ON HERE IT SAYS COUNTY CONTRACT CONTRACT. SO IT SHOWS HOW MUCH. AND WE ASKED FOR THE BREAKDOWN, BUT WE DIDN'T GET IT. THEY DIDN'T, THEY WOULDN'T PROVIDE IT. BUT FOR OUR NON-PROFIT, UM, THAT'S WHERE WE COME IN AND HOPE TO HELP THE FOOD OR WITH TOYS OR WHATEVER IT MIGHT BE. THE NON PEOPLE TO THE NON, DO YOU HAVE A DOG IN THE CITY LIMITS? A TERRIBLE JUDGE. DO I? YES. YES. I HAVE A BLIND WALL. . NO, I HAD, I HAD JOE AND EACH YEAR, I FORGET WHETHER IT'S 15 OR 20 OR 25 ANNUAL IN TERMS OF IN THE CITY FEES. AND I DIDN'T KNOW IF IN Y'ALL'S DISCUSSIONS YOU'VE HAD ANY DISCUSSION ABOUT I THAT'S REGISTRATION. WHAT I WAS, WHAT I UNDERSTOOD THAT IT COULD ONLY BE $5 REGISTRATION. SO YOU'RE SAYING IT THAT MONEY CAN ONLY BE USED FOR A CERTAIN, CERTAIN WE HAVE, AND THE COST TO HELP US CREATE SOME PLANS WOULD BE ABOUT $5,000 WITH AN ARCHITECT, UM, ENGINEER. AND THEN THAT WAY HE CAN KIND OF HELP US WITH SOME DRAWING WITHIN THE VERY END OF THE PACKET. THERE ARE JUST SOME THINGS THAT WE, ONE I PULLED OFF AND WHEN I KIND OF SKETCHED AND DRAWN AND SHARED TO SHOW THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IN A ANIMAL SHELTER IS THE, UH, THE SANITATION AND THE ANIMALS THAT COME IN KEEPING THE QUARANTINE BECAUSE YOU DON'T WANNA, YOU KNOW, GET ANYBODY SICK. UM, WE WOULD WANNA TAKE AN ON INTAKE, GIVE CERTAIN SHOTS, AND THEN LIKE MR. PHILLIPS SAID, WE WOULD DISCUSS ABOUT THE ADOPTION AND THEN WE DON'T PAY, WE DON'T GET THEM ADOPTED OR UH, EXCUSE ME, THE NEW ROOM UNTIL THEY'VE BEEN CALLED FOR THIS. THE, THE SHELTER IN THE SKI ONLY GIVES ELLA ON INTAKE, WHICH IS KENNEL. AND THEN ONCE HIM COMES AND CHOOSES THEIR DOG, THEN THEY SEND THEM TO, IT'S ACTUALLY THE CLINIC DOES A LOT THINGS AND UM, AND THEN THAT PERSON WOULD PAY FOR THE ADOPTION. AND SO, SO WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN TO THE, THE ANIMALS THAT THEY WILL, THE ANIMALS THAT ARE NOT ADOPTABLE? WELL, WE WOULD TRY OUR BEST TO GET THEM ADOPTED OUT. AND IF THEY CAN'T, THEN THEY'S THAT'S A FACT OF LIFE AND ALL SHELTERS DO IT. THERE'S NOTHING. THERE IS NO, NO, THERE'S LOW KE AND THAT WOULD BE OUR GOAL. BUT WE LIVE IN A COUNTY, THEY ALL LIVE IN THE CITY AND THE FROM THE STATE TOLD ME THAT IN THE CITY PEOPLE PAY MONEY FOR THEIR DOGS. THEY WALK THEM EVERY DAY, THEY TAKE THEM TO THE PARK WITH THEM AND THEY CARE ABOUT 'EM. AND THE COUNTY PEOPLE MOVE TO THE COUNTY AND DOGS, THEY GET DOGS AND MORE DOGS AND MORE DOGS AND THEY BREED AND THEY DON'T CARE FOR THEM. SO THERE ARE GONNA BE DOGS THAT ARE NOT ADOPTABLE. AND THOSE ARE THINGS THAT WE'RE, WE HAVE TO THAT FROM CITY AND OUT ON COUNTY ROAD AND THEN PEOPLE DO LINE UP. AND THAT IS WHY EDUCATION IS THE KEY TO GET OUT TO THE SCHOOLS AND GET TO ANY FUNCTION WHERE THERE'S AN EVENT WHERE WE CAN TALK ABOUT SPAY, WE CAN OFFER LOW COST SPAY. UM, ANYTHING THAT WE CAN DO, WE DO OUR BEST TO TAKE CARE OF THAT. AND THAT. YES MA'AM. ONE THING TOO, A LOT OF RESCUE GROUPS, THERE'S ALL KINDS OF RESCUE GROUPS FROM THE DALLAS-FORT WORTH AREA AND WHEN CERTAIN TYPES OF DOGS ARE IN THE SHELTER, THOSE RESCUE GROUPS WILL PULL THEM OUT. AND SO OUR SHELTER WOULD BE IN TOUCH. AND THANK YOU FOR SAYING IN TOUCH WITH ALREADY, WE ALREADY, WE ALREADY GET CALLS. I THINK I SHARED WITH YOU GUYS, I'VE ALREADY HAD PEOPLE CALL AND ASKING, THEY COME PULL FROM THE SHELTER AND I SAY, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING YET. WE'RE JUST STILL TALKING ABOUT IT. SO THAT WAS ONE TIME WAS THE DALLAS SPCA. YEP. SO THEY CALL AND THEY WANT COME AND PULL FROM YOUR SHELTER TO TAKE TO THAT AREA TO BE ADOPTED. 'CAUSE THEIR GOAL IS TO NOT HAVE TO PUT ANY ANIMALS THERE. YOU KNOW, I THOUGHT THIS WEEKEND THEY HAD HAD THAT TRAILER WERE TALKING ABOUT, HAD [00:35:01] SITTING OVER THERE IN FRONT OF ADOPTING ANIMAL, YOU COULDN'T GET THROUGH. THERE ALL ARE. SO I THINK WE CAN ALL JUST SIT AND TALK AND TALK AND TALK ABOUT THIS. WE CAN JUST, WE, WE HAVEN'T BEEN INVOLVED IN LONG IS THE FIRST TIME WE SO KNOW FOR WHAT COST. BUT I DO FEEL LIKE WE NEED PLAN, TAKE CARE OF BUSINESS IF WE GET VOLUNTEERS TO HELP. AND THAT'S, THAT'S WHY SUPPOSED TO, TO GET THIS, THIS IS GONNA BE A BIG DEAL. IT'S GONNA GROW AND IT'S GONNA BE BIGGER THAN WHAT WE EVEN IMAGINED. AND I THINK, AND YOU'LL BE OUT THERE WATCHING UHHUH, I KNOW YOU'LL JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS, I DON'T WANT YOU TO THINK THAT YOU'RE GONNA BE ABLE TO BUILD A 4,800 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING FOR 220,000. OKAY? THERE ARE COSTS THAT AREN'T INCLUDED HERE. YOU'RE GONNA BE REQUIRED TO PARK IT, YOU'RE GONNA BE REQUIRED TO LANDSCAPE IT. IF IT'S INSIDE THE CITY LIMITS, THERE'S GONNA BE MASONRY REQUIREMENTS. YOU'RE GOING TO, YOU'RE GONNA BE REQUIRED TO COMPLY WITH THE ZONING ORDINANCES. THE ZONING ORDINANCE HERE THAT WE'RE GONNA BE, I'M SORRY. THAT'S WHY WE'RE HAVING THIS EXECUTIVE. WELL WE, WE, WE, THE PARKING, YOU KNOW, THE COMMISSIONERS CAN, YOU KNOW, HOPEFULLY TAKE CARE OF SOME OF THAT. UH, THERE'LL BE OTHER THINGS, BUT I'M, I'M THINKING, UH, THAT WE'LL, WE'RE GONNA HAVE SOME PEOPLE THAT'LL STEP UP TO THE PLATE AND HELP US. I JUST DON'T WANT YOU TO LOSE SIGHT OF THE FACT THAT YOU'RE GOING, YOU'RE GONNA BE REQUIRED TO DO THOSE KINDS OF THINGS IF YOU BUILD THIS INSIDE CITY. RIGHT? WELL, AND THAT'S ONE THING WE OUGHT TALK ABOUT HERE, JUST A FEW MONTHS. SO THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT UP. ALRIGHT, SO WE HAVE TO HAVE AN ARCHITECT. WE TO HAVE AN ENGINEERED PLAN. WE HAVE ONE, WE HAVE ONE ALREADY THAT WE, WE DON'T HAVE. WHAT ARE WE PAYING HIM ON, ON THE OTHER SIDE? YOU TALKING ABOUT? YES. WHO IS AN ARCHITECT? I'M JUST ASKING BECAUSE WE GOT SOME OTHER ARCHITECTS. WE PAID SOME BIG BUCKS TO. THEY WERE DO FAVOR DONATE. THEY, THEY PRETTY MUCH DONATING ALL THE WORK THAT THEY, THAT WHAT YOU PAID NEW . IF YOU FIND ONE TO DONATE ANYTHING, LEMME KNOW. WE DO, WE FINALLY GET SERIOUS ABOUT THIS AND WE START AND SAY WE'RE GONNA DO THIS. WE'RE GONNA HAVE PEOPLE WHO ARE GONNA SAY, OH YEAH, I THINK WE'VE GOT PEOPLE JUST WAITING ON US TAKING SOME CONCRETE. WE'RE NOT GONNA, WE MAY GET SOME, YEAH, WE STILL HAVE TO HAVE A CAUSE TOTAL COST BECAUSE I MEAN, YOU CAN'T DEPEND ON ALL THAT STUFF. WE NEED TO KNOW WHAT WE'RE BE AND IF IT COMES OUT BETTER, THEN THAT, THAT'S WHERE THE START STONE START. GET IT DRAWN TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE OUR LOCATION. WE CAN'T, WE DON'T, WE UH, WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO NOW IS LET'S GO AHEAD AND GO OUT OF THIS WORKSHOP SESSION AND ENTER INTO A SPECIAL, UH, WORK SPECIAL EXECUTIVE SESSION DISCUSSING THE ITEMS THAT ARE LISTED THERE. SO EVEN THOUGH I DON'T HAVE IT ON THE AGENDA, DO I HAVE MOTION TO UH, UH, THANK VERY MUCH. AND MIKE, IF YOU MAYOR AND WHOEVER WOULD, SO I DO. I USE THIS FANCY DOOR. STOP MY CABINET. USE THAT FANCY DOOR. STOP. DON'T LOSE IT. WE GOT A REQUISITION FROM ANOTHER ONE. WE CAME OUT OF, WE CAME OUT OF EXECUTIVE SESSION [00:40:01] 3 52. BARBARA MADE A MOTION. ALLEN SECONDED. AND, UH, WE'RE TAKING NO ACTION FROM THE EXECUTIVE SESSION. AND I'LL MAKE A MOTION. I'LL MAKE A MOTION FOR SECOND. I'LL SECOND. ALRIGHT. OKAY, BARBARA, AND ALL IN FAVOR? I I THINK THESE, THE EXECUTIVE SESSIONS FOR YOU GUYS, WE PROBABLY PUT A COFFEE BAR OUT THERE. MAYBE. YES. THAT BAR. YOU GOT A CHAIR? WELL, WOULD YOU GET THE CHAIR? GET THE EXPANSION. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.