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WELL, GOOD EVENING, AFTERNOON, EVERYBODY.
WE WERE RUNNING A LITTLE LATE AND, UH, APOLOGIZE FOR THAT.
WE'VE GOT A NUMBER OF ITEMS ON OUR WORKSHOP AGENDA TODAY.
AND JUST START BY SAYING WE'RE NOT GOING TO TAKE ANY ACTION OR ANY VOTING ACTIONS TODAY.
WE'RE JUST HERE TO LEARN AND, UH, ASK QUESTIONS ABOUT, UH, DIFFERENT, UH, DIFFERENT THINGS.
AND WE'VE GOT SOME ITEMS WILL TAKE A LITTLE BIT OF TIME.
AND, AND, UH, OTHERS WILL, UH, WE'LL PROBABLY, UH, MOVE, MOVE ON THROUGH PRETTY FAST.
I DON'T BELIEVE JOHN PO IS HERE YET.
SO, UH, UH, WOULD YOU, LIKE, YOU WANT DO YOUR, NOW YOU LATER ON ALL, WHICHEVER YOUR REFERENCE IS FOUND.
UH, WELL, WE'VE GOT SOME OTHER, WELL, WE'VE GOT SEVERAL FOLKS, UH, HERE.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, UH, I THINK MIGHT BE A GOOD IDEA IF YOU GO AHEAD AND TALK ABOUT ITEM NUMBER THREE AND, UH, WE GOT SOME EQUIPMENT SET UP HERE.
AND THIS IS DEMONSTRATION, UH, SOME NEW VOTING EQUIPMENT AND PRICING, UH, ON PROPOSED PRICING.
AND BRENDA, MY OFFICE, YOUR BRENDA'S NOT HERE, SHE CAN STILL FILL OUT THAT FROM OFFICE DOWNSTAIRS.
AND THEN WE HAVE FRED IS THATAWAY.
SO HERE I TALKED WITH, UH, UH, YOU LAST WEEK, KEN LAST WEEK DOWN AT THE, UH, COMMISSIONER'S MEETING WE HAD FOR MEETING AND, UH, ABOUT, UH, SOME NEW EQUIPMENT THAT IS AVAILABLE.
AND THERESA, YOU HELPED ME HERE.
UH, THE EQUIPMENT WE CURRENTLY ARE USING IS ABOUT 12 YEARS OLD.
WE'RE USING 12-YEAR-OLD TECHNOLOGY AND AS YOU KNOW, LIKE WITH EVERYTHING, THINGS HAVE CHANGED.
AND SO, UH, IT IS TIME FOR US TO BEGIN LOOKING AT THE NEW TECHNOLOGY THAT IS OUT THERE.
AND WE'RE NOT, AGAIN, NOT GONNA MAKE A DECISION TODAY BECAUSE THERE'S LOTS OF, UH, LOTS OF OTHER, UH, THINGS THAT WE'LL NEED TO DISCUSS, UH, OBVIOUSLY HOW TO PAY FOR IT.
UH, BUT, UH, KEN'S AVAILABLE TO COME AND I'M GONNA GIVE YOU ABOUT 15 MINUTES.
CAN YOU, CAN YOU DO THAT? WE'VE GOT OKAY.
WELL HERE'S SOME PRINTOUTS OF THE PRESENTATION SCREEN UP HERE.
YES, BUT IT'S EXACTLY WHAT I JUST HANDED OUT, SO ESPECIALLY SINCE I HAVE TO GO FAST.
YOU CAN STILL DO THAT AS YOU ELI.
I WORK FOR HART INNER CIVIC, UH, HART IS YOUR CURRENT ELECTION SYSTEMS VENDOR AND, UH, HAVE BEEN AT LEAST SINCE 2005 WHEN YOU BOUGHT WHAT YOU HAVE NOW.
UH, I'VE BEEN WORKING AT HART SINCE 2005 ALSO.
AND SO I'VE WORKED WITH KAUFFMAN COUNTY FROM MR. MURPHY'S DAYS TO MS. RAD CLERK'S DAYS TO TODAY.
UM, AND BEFORE I CAME TO HART I WORKED IN THE ELECTIONS OFFICE IN THE COUNTY CLERK'S OFFICE OF TRAVIS COUNTY.
SO I'VE BEEN ON THE COUNTY SIDE OF THIS EQUATION AS WELL AND WAS A HAR CUSTOMER BEFORE I BECAME A HAR EMPLOYEE.
SO JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE BACKGROUND ON ME.
UM, WHAT I PLAN TO TALK ABOUT IS WHAT'S GOING ON ALL AROUND THE COUNTRY, AND ESPECIALLY IN TEXAS TO KIND OF GIVE YOU ALL AN UNDERSTANDING OF, OF WHY EXACTLY WE'RE HAVING THIS CONVERSATION AT ALL.
UM, AND THEN OF COURSE I BROUGHT OUR BRAND NEW, UH, VERITY VOTING SYSTEM THAT WAS JUST CERTIFIED IN THE STATE OF TEXAS ON DECEMBER THE 15TH.
THAT WAS JUST USED FOR THE FIRST TIME IN TEXAS ON THE MAY 6TH ELECTION.
SO, UM, BRAND NEW STUFF I WANT TO SHOW YOU GUYS.
AND, UH, THAT'S PROBABLY PROBABLY WHERE WE'LL STOP ON MY AGENDA FOR TODAY.
UM, SO AS YOU PROBABLY ALL REMEMBER, WE HAD THAT HORRIBLE BUSH BORE HANGING CHAD INCIDENT.
IT TOOK MONTHS AND MONTHS TO SORT OUT THAT ELECTION AND AS OFTEN HAPPENS, THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT HAD A RESPONSE TO THAT.
THAT RESPONSE WAS THE HELP AMERICA VOTE ACT OF 2002.
THAT, THAT ACT DID A WHOLE LOT OF THINGS.
BUT THE THING THAT REALLY MATTERS TO US TODAY IS IT MANDATED THAT ALL THE COUNTIES ALL OVER THE COUNTRY BUY A NEW SYSTEM AND IT FUNDED THOSE SYSTEMS. SO HERE IN TEXAS, WE WERE REQUIRED TO HAVE THOSE NEW FEDERALLY MANDATED SYSTEMS IN PLACE BY THE FIRST ELECTION OF 2006, WHICH IS WHY VIRTUALLY EVERY COUNTY IN TEXAS BOUGHT WHAT THEY'RE USING NOW IN 2005.
AND KAUFMAN IS ONE OF THOSE, UM, BACK IN THE DAY THAT THAT HAPPENED, UH, WHEN PEOPLE ASKED ABOUT WHAT THE EXPECTED LIFESPAN OF THOSE MACHINES WERE, THE STANDARD ANSWER WAS ABOUT 10 YEARS.
SO HERE WE ARE AT YEAR 12 OF, UH, LIFESPAN.
SO COUNTIES HAVE ALREADY STARTED REPLACING THOSE SYSTEMS. UM, AND I WON'T GO THROUGH THESE AT ALL, BUT
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JUST WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW WHEN AND WHO THE ONES IN RED HAVE DONE.SO BECAUSE THEY'VE HAD CATASTROPHIC SYSTEM FAILURES AND SO THEY'VE BEEN FORCED TO REPLACE THEIR, THEIR OLD SYSTEMS, UH, ALL OF THOSE YOU SEE FROM 2016 FORWARD ARE THE ONES THAT HAVE ALREADY BOUGHT THIS SYSTEM.
UH, A LOT OF PEOPLE PRE-ORDERED LAST YEAR AND WERE WAITING FOR THE CERTIFICATION.
UM, AND THE ONES THAT BOUGHT BEFORE 16, UM, ALMOST ALL OF THEM BOUGHT WHAT YOU'RE USING NOW, UH, TO REPLACE WHATEVER OTHER SYSTEM THEY HAVE.
UM, SO A LOT OF, A LOT MORE ACTIVITY IS GONNA HAPPEN THIS YEAR.
AND WHY IS THAT? WELL, NOVEMBER, WE HAD A REALLY BIG ELECTION, RIGHT? THE LAST THING COUNTIES WANTED TO THINK ABOUT WHEN THEY WERE ABOUT TO HAVE THE BUSIEST SELECTION THEY'D HAD IN EIGHT YEARS WAS TRYING TO TRAIN ALL THEIR POLL WORKERS AND ALL THEIR VOTERS AND ALL THEIR ELECTION OFFICE PERSONNEL ON HOW TO DO A GLOBAL NEW INSTALLATION.
SO A LOT OF COUNTIES I TALKED TO WHEN I WAS TRYING TO GET THOSE PRE-ORDERS LAST YEAR JUST SAID, DON'T TALK TO ME.
WE HAVE A PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION, SO NOW THAT'S BEHIND US NEXT YEAR WE HAVE PRIMARIES IN MARCH, THEN THE PRIMARY RUNOFFS AND THEN THE MAY ELECTIONS AND THE MAY ELECTION RUNOFFS, AND THEN A GOOD MENTOR ELECTION.
SO NEXT YEAR IS NOT THE BEST YEAR TO IMPLEMENT A NEW SYSTEM, EITHER 2017 IS THE BEST TIME TO DO IT BECAUSE WE HAVE A CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT ELECTION IN NOVEMBER, WHICH TYPICALLY IS VERY LOW STRESS, LOW ENERGY KIND OF ELECTION, AND IS A GOOD ONE TO TRAIN YOUR CORE PEOPLE ON A NEW SYSTEM.
PLUS COUNTIES WERE WAITING FOR THE NEW SYSTEM TO COME OUT.
UH, WE'VE BEEN DESIGNING THIS SYSTEM FOR A COUPLE YEARS.
COUNTIES KNEW IT WAS COMING, WE DIDN'T GET IT CERTIFIED UNTIL DECEMBER.
SO THAT'S WHY THERE WAS THAT BIG BACKLOG IN COUNTIES.
UM, SO THAT'S ANOTHER REASON 17 IS GONNA BE BIG.
AND I'VE JUST LISTED ALL THE COUNTIES THAT I'M ACTIVELY WORKING WITH THAT HAVE, THAT HAVE PROJECTS GOING RIGHT NOW TO DO THIS.
SO THE FIRST QUESTION I ALWAYS GET ASKED IS, HOW ARE COUNTIES AFFORDED TO DO IT THIS TIME? BECAUSE 12 YEARS AGO THERE WAS FEDERAL MONEY TO DO IT.
UM, SO I'VE SEEN EVERY STANDARD COUNTY PROCEDURE, JUST PUT IT IN THE BUDGET AND THEN PAY FOR IT IN ONE YEAR, PUT HALF OF IT IN THE BUDGET THIS YEAR, HALF OF IT NEXT YEAR.
AND THEN BY SPREAD THAT OVER THREE YEARS, I'VE SEEN IN GUADALUPE, UM, COUNTIES HAVE USED TAX NOTES COS BONDS, IF THEY HAD OTHER PROJECTS, THEY WOULD FOLD THIS IN.
THE ONES I HIGHLIGHTED THOUGH, UH, ARE WHAT MOST COUNTIES ARE PREFERRING TO DO, AND THAT IS TO DO FINANCING.
SO THIS IS A ONCE EVERY 10 OR 15 YEAR PURCHASE.
IF YOU CAN SPREAD THE HIT ON YOUR BUDGETS OUT OVER 10 OF THOSE YEARS, THAT KIND OF MAKES SENSE TO PEOPLE, ESPECIALLY IF IT'S A LOW, UM, A LOW INTEREST ENVIRONMENT LIKE WE HAVE NOW.
SO THAT'S WHAT MOST PEOPLE ARE DOING.
I HAVE PROVIDED A GOVERNMENT CAPITAL QUOTE TO ALMOST EVERY COUNTY I TALK TO.
WE'RE NOT AFFILIATED WITH GOVERNMENT CAPITAL.
UM, WE DON'T CARE WHERE YOU GET YOUR FINANCING, BUT THEY'RE HAPPY TO GIVE US THOSE QUOTES AND I'M HAPPY TO PASS THEM ALONG.
AND THEN COUNTIES GO OUT AND SHOP THOSE.
SO LIKE WICHITA COUNTY FOUND A BETTER DEAL WITH THE LOCAL BANK THEY WERE ALREADY DOING BUSINESS WITH, BUT THEY USED OUR DOCUMENT TO GET A BETTER BREAK AND ART IS HAPPY FOR YOU TO DO THAT.
SO, UM, JUST TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION, IS THERE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE ELECTION LANDSCAPE AND WHERE WE ARE AND HOW WE GOT HERE BEFORE I TALK ABOUT THE NEW STOP? THERESA, YOU WANT TO EXPLAIN ANYTHING THAT I, YOU KNOW, I JUST REALLY DO THINK WE ARE GONNA END UP NEEDING TO UPGRADE.
WE ARE AT END OF LIFE ON THESE MACHINES.
WE HAVE A LOT OF PROBLEMS WITH THE MACHINES FROM TIME TO TIME THEY DO COME OUT AND MAINTAIN 'EM, BUT STILL, YOU STILL HAVE THE PROBLEM OF, YOU KNOW, THE MACHINES ARE JUST OLD, YOU KNOW.
AND, UM, SO THAT'S, THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY IS I KNOW IT'S, IT'S COMING AND IT NEEDS TO BE AS SOON AS WE CAN BEFORE WE GET TO A BIG ELECTION.
AND WE DO DO HAVE A CATASTROPHIC OCCURRENCE THAT WHICH IS WE NEVER GO WOULD WANT THAT.
THAT THAT'S NOT A, A GOOD THING OBVIOUSLY AT ALL.
SO YEAH, THAT'S, THAT'S ABOUT ALL I HAVE TO SAY.
AND WE DO, WE DO LIKE THEIR PRODUCT.
YOU KNOW, WE'VE, SO WE'VE HAD HEART FOR THIS 12 YEARS AND IT'S BEEN A GOOD PRODUCT.
UH, JUST, UH, ARE YOU KIND OF FINISHED UP? UH, I WAS FINISHED WITH THAT AND I WAS GONNA TALK ABOUT THE NEW SYSTEM.
WELL, UH, GO AHEAD AND DO THAT THEN I'LL KIND OF TELL YOU KIND OF OKAY.
SOME OTHER CONVERSATIONS I'VE HAD SINCE YOU AND I HAVE TALKED.
I'VE NOT SHARED WITH THE COURT EVEN AT THIS POINT, BUT, OKAY.
WELL, OKAY, I'M GONNA GO REALLY FAST AND JUST HIT THE HIGHLIGHTS.
THE MO THE PEOPLE WE'RE MOST CONCERNED ABOUT IN ANY KIND OF TRANSACTION LIKE THIS ARE THE VOTERS.
I MEAN, THEY'RE OUR ULTIMATE CUSTOMER.
SO THAT SHOULD BE OUR FIRST CONSIDERATION.
WHAT'S THEIR EXPERIENCE GONNA BE WHEN THEY WALK UP TO THE NEW SYSTEM? WELL, WHEN THEY WALK UP TO YOUR CURRENT SYSTEM, THEY'RE PROBABLY REACHING UP THERE AND TOUCHING ENGLISH WITH THEIR FINGER AND NOTHING HAPPENS.
AND THEN THEY GET TOLD, NO, NO, YOU GOTTA TURN THE WHEEL AND PUSH THE BUTTON.
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SO THEN THEY HAVE THEIR FOUR DIGITS AND THEY TURN THE WHEEL TO THE FIRST ONE, HIT ENTER, TURN THE WHEEL TO THE SECOND ONE, HIT ENTER.YOU KNOW, IT TAKES A FEW MINUTES TO GET THAT CODE IN.
NOW THEY'RE GONNA BE ABLE TO WALK UP AND JUST TAP IT IN LIKE THEY'RE DIALING A PHONE.
SO THAT'S GONNA SPEED UP YOUR PROCESS AND IT'S GONNA GIVE PEOPLE WHAT THEY'RE EXPECTING TO HAPPEN WHEN THEY WALK IN THERE.
UM, THEY CAN NOW CHANGE THE FONT SIZE IF THEY FORGOT THEIR READING GLASSES OR IF IT'S A BIG LONG PROPOSITION AND THERE'S A LOT OF TEXTS THERE AND IT GETS TOO SMALL FOR THEM TO READ AT THE TOUCH OF THE SCREEN, THEY CAN INCREASE THE FONT SIZE.
YOU CAN'T DO THAT WITH THE SYSTEM YOU HAVE NOW.
UH, THEY CAN ALSO SWITCH THE LANGUAGES IF SOMEBODY ACCIDENTALLY STARTED IN THE WRONG LANGUAGE.
WHAT DO YOU HAVE TO DO NOW? SPOIL THE BALLOT, ISSUE A NEW CODE, START ALL OVER WITH A NEW SYSTEM.
YOU TOUCH THE SCREEN AND CHANGE THE BALLOT, UH, LANGUAGE AS MANY TIMES AS YOU WANT.
SO THERE'S A LOT MORE, UM, VOTER CONVENIENCE FEATURES IN THE NEW SYSTEM THAT, THAT THEY HAVE NOW.
UM, AND THEN THERE'S A, A TON OF BENEFITS FOR THE POLL WORKERS.
UH, THEY'RE OUR SECOND MOST IMPORTANT CONSTITUENCY.
AND UH, I THINK YOU PROBABLY OVERHEARD SOME OF THE COMMENTS WE WERE ALREADY GETTING AND I'LL STAY HERE UNTIL AFTER THIS MEETING AND I ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO COME OVER AND EXPERIENCE THE SYSTEM AND I'LL TALK ABOUT SOME OF THOSE OTHER BENEFITS.
UM, YEAH, I DEFINITELY WON'T GET INTO WHAT THE ELECTION OFFICE BENEFITS ARE GONNA DO.
SO, AND IT SOUNDS LIKE WE'RE NOT READY TO TALK ABOUT, UH, THE NORTHEAST TEXAS DISCOUNT OFFER.
WELL, LET ME LOOK WHAT'S INTEREST.
THAT WAS PART I WAS GOING INTO WHILE WE WERE IN, UH, UH, THE, UH, EVENT LAST WEEK THAT WE ATTENDED.
UH, UH, ACTUALLY JUDGE SWEEP FROM ROCKWALL COUNTY AND IOWA WENT BY, VISITED.
AND SO WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE POSSIBILITY WE DID SOME SORT OF ENVELOPE AGREEMENT WITH
AND YOUR ANSWER WAS PROBABLY YES.
UH, I BELIEVE THAT YES, WE ALREADY HAVE THE OFFER ON THE TABLE.
THAT BEING SAID, UH, IT WAS, UH, SINCE THEN I'VE RECEIVED A LETTER, I THINK RECEIVED.
BUT URBAN COUNTY ASSOCIATION IS PUTTING TOGETHER, AND LISA, I THINK I MENTIONED THIS TO YOU THE OTHER DAY, UH, IS PUTTING, IS HAVING A, UH, MEETING ON THE 9TH OF JUNE IN AUSTIN TO DISCUSS, UH, POSSIBILITY OF BEATING OUT THE MACHINES.
UH, AND THERE'S 38 MEMBERS OF THE URBAN COUNTY, MOSTLY LARGER COUNTIES IN THE STATE.
UH, AND UH, AND SO, UH, I TALKED TO JUDGE SWEET ABOUT THAT AND HE SAID, WELL, WE PROBABLY SHOULD WAIT UNTIL THAT URBAN COUNTIES, UH, UH, DECIDES TO DO WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO.
UH, THERE ARE OBVIOUSLY, UH, I MEAN I KNOW OUR LADY, OUR FOLKS AND LIKE THE EQUIPMENT WE HAVE HERE, AND I THINK OUR BUILDERS FOR THE MOST PART ARE, UH, PLEASED WITH IT.
BUT IF, IF MORE IT CAN GO TOGETHER, YOU KNOW, THERE IS SOME, UH, COULD BE SOME SIGNIFICANT COST SAVINGS IN DOING THAT.
NOW I KNOW TIME'S GETTING LATE AND ALL THAT AND SO, WELL, I MEAN, WHAT WILL HAPPEN WITH THE COUNCIL OF URBAN COUNTIES IS THEY'LL PUT OUT AN RFP RIGHT.
AND WE, AND THE SMS WILL RESPOND TO THAT RFP, UM, WITH SOME FAIRLY STANDARD PRICING.
BUT, UM, THEN AS WE NEGOTIATE WITH INDIVIDUAL COUNTIES, WE'RE NOT BOUND TO, TO THAT PRICE, WE CAN INCREASE THE DISCOUNT BEYOND THAT PRICE.
AND THAT'S WHAT WE ARE ALREADY ROUTINELY DOING.
WE'RE ALREADY ON A STATE CONTRACT, THE BY BOARD AND I NEVER SELL IT BY BOARD PRICE.
SO THAT'S WHAT I COUNSELED BRAZORIA COUNTY, THEY'RE IN NEGOTIATION WITH US NOW AND THEY SENT ME THE LETTER.
I SAID, YES, HART WILL RESPOND TO THAT RFP AND THERE'LL BE SOME CUC PRICING, BUT I CAN GIVE YOU A BETTER DEAL THAN THAT TODAY.
'CAUSE THE CUC WON'T BE ABLE TO GUARANTEE US ANY NUMBER OF EQUIPMENT.
YOU KNOW, ALL WE'RE GONNA DO IS GIVE THEM AN RFP RESPONSE MM-HMM
SO WE, WE WON'T HAVE ANY IDEA OF THE VOLUME OF COUNTIES THAT MIGHT RESPOND TO RIGHT NOW.
I, I UNDERSTAND THAT, OF COURSE THAT MEETING'S STILL A COUPLE WEEKS OFF, SO, UH, I DON'T KNOW, BUT THAT WILL, UH, THE DELAY THAT MUCH.
BUT IT IS SOMETHING I KNOW THAT IF THE COURT DECIDES TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO REALLY START THINK ABOUT IT QUICK.
JUST AS A MATTER OF CURIOSITY, YOU SAID YOU HAD YOUR FIRST ELECTION IN MAY YES, SIR.
AND SO YES, NINE COUNTIES USED IT.
WELL I, UM, SO I WAS DOING, I WAS DOING ELECTION SUPPORT FOR THE CITY OF LAPORTE ON THE OLD SYSTEM THAT SATURDAY, DRIVING BACK TO AUSTIN ON SUNDAY.
AND I GOT A TEXT FROM THE CHAMBERS COUNTY CLERK, HEATHER HAWTHORNE, WHO JUST HAD HER FIRST ELECTION ON SUNDAY.
AND SHE WAS JUST RAVING ABOUT HOW HAPPY THEY WERE, HOW QUICK THEY GOT OUT, HOW EXCITED THEIR VOTERS WERE, AND SHE SAID, Y'ALL ARE ROCK
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STARS.THAT WAS A PRETTY GOOD REPORT TO GET ON.
I'LL GET YOU TO PUT ON SHOWS FOR, UH, THE MACHINES ARE HERE AND HE'S VOLUNTEERED I THINK TO STICK AROUND A LITTLE BIT COURT.
AND I WANTED TO GO AHEAD AND HEAR THIS, SO IF YOU WANTED TO LEAVE, BUT I THINK IT'S GOOD IF YOU DON'T MIND STAYING HERE.
AND I, I KNOW YOUR UH, UH, PRESENTATION WAS CUT OFF A LITTLE BIT, BUT, UH, WE'LL, UH, WE WILL, I'M SURE HAVE TO DO MORE RESEARCH AND HAVE ANOTHER PRESENTATION AND THE, AS YOU WOULD EXPECT, THE OTHER COMPANY IS ALSO APPROACHED US AS WELL.
ARE THERE TWO, TWO MAJOR FIRMS THAT DO THIS? YEAH, THERE'S ONLY TWO COMPANIES THAT HAVE CERTIFIED SYSTEMS IN TEXAS.
AND THEY'RE CERTIFIED BY THE SECRETARY OF STATE.
ALRIGHT, WELL THANK YOU VERY MUCH SURE.
UH, JOHN, I BELIEVE YOU'RE HERE, UH, S LATE AN HOUR SHORT OR WHATEVER, BUT YOU'D LIKE TO COME UP AND TALK TO US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE COUNTY BOND PROGRAM OF THAT.
I HAVE TWO, UH, ONE'S A PROJECT STATUS REPORT AND THE OTHER ONE'S A FINANCIAL STATUS AS TO DATE.
AND, UH, I CAN FIND, I, SO I HOW THIS WORKS, I'M NOT GONNA, THE FINANCIALS, FINANCES FIRST, THAT'S ALL TO LOOK AT.
WE GOT, IF YOU'D LIKE, RESTRICT OTHERS THAT ARE HERE, HAND THEM.
I'M GOING KIND OF QUICKLY OVER THIS BECAUSE I THINK MOST OF Y'ALL ARE FAMILIAR WITH, UH, THE PROJECTS.
UH, SO THE FIRST TWO PROJECTS ARE THE, UH, SH 2 43 INTERSECTIONS AT ABOVE 25 15 AND, UH, 27 27.
THESE ARE THE PROJECTS THAT WE SUBMITTED TO THE NET RMA FOR ADDITIONAL FUNDING ON THE PROJECTS.
AND THOSE ADDITIONAL FUNDS WERE TO COVER, UH, SOME OF THE COSTS ABOVE THE $200,000 THAT WAS IDENTIFIED.
SO THOSE DOLLARS SIMPLY HELP US PAY FOR THE, UH, PROJECT AND NOT PROVIDE US ANY SURPLUS REVENUE ON THOSE PROJECTS.
SO WE'RE WORKING THROUGH THAT.
THE, UH,
AND ONCE WE GET THAT, WE CAN GET YOUR SCHEDULE ON ON, UM, THE IMPROVEMENTS OF THOSE TWO LOCATIONS.
UH, I HAD ALLERGIES THE LAST COUPLE OF DAYS AND IT'S SOMEHOW I MESSED UP.
THIS ISN'T HOW I NORMALLY SOUND.
UH, AND THEN THE SH 2 43, 27 27 OTHER INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENT, THIS IS, UH, UH, WE COVERED THAT ONE, I'M SORRY.
UH, 1 75 1 18 95 INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENTS.
THIS WAS THE ONE WHERE WE, UH, WORKED WITH TDO AND WAS SUBMITTED IT UNDER THE HIGHWAY SAFETY IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM AND TDOT HAS, UH, AGREED TO PLAY PAY FOR FLASHERS.
AND UH, WE HAD THE PRE-CONSTRUCTION MEETING IN APRIL AND UH, AS TIME STARTS ON JUNE 14TH TO GO OUT AND MAKE THE IMPROVEMENTS AND, UH, ADD THE FLASHERS TO THAT INTERSECTION.
SO WE'LL GET TO THAT ON THE FINANCIAL WHEN WE, UH, TALK ABOUT IT.
AND THIS WAS ONE THAT WAS INITIALLY SCHEDULED FROM THE ATTORNEY MODULE? CORRECT.
WE, UH, HAVE THE $200,000 TEXT OUT AGREEING TO COVER THE COST.
AND SO IT'LL SHOW, YOU'LL SEE THAT IN THE, UH, REPORT.
ON THE FINANCE WHEN WE GET TO, AND THEN THE 83 RELOCATION.
THIS IS A PROJECT WHERE ESSENTIALLY WE TOOK OVER THE ENGINEERING OF THE PROJECT FROM FORNEY.
UH, MICHAEL BAKER I THINK DID THE ENGINEERING DID.
AND UH, WHEN THE PROJECT LET TEXT AGREED TO JUST PAY FOR ALL OF THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE PROJECTS.
WE HAD INITIALLY HAD $2 MILLION IN THE BOND PACKAGE FOR ENGINEERING AND ASSISTANCE ON CONSTRUCTION.
TEXDOT PICKED UP THE COST OF CONSTRUCTION, A TOTAL OF FIVE, LITTLE OVER 5 MILLION BUCKS.
SO WE WERE ONLY OUT THE, UM, FIVE AND A HALF, 555 $60,000 IN ENGINEERING.
AND YOU'LL SEE THAT ON THE REPORT AS WELL.
SO THIS PROJECT IS UNDER CONSTRUCTION AND THE NEXT PAGE, PAGE SIX, IS THE REPORT WE GET FROM TECH STOCK ON A MONTHLY BASIS.
AND IT'S SCHEDULED STILL TO BE COMPLETED BY FEBRUARY, 2018.
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GONNA GO FAST UNTILSO THE NEXT TWO PROJECTS, 5 48 5 48 ADVANCED PLANNING AND THE 5 48 NORTH PHASE ONE ARE ALL COVERED BY THE 5 48 ADVANCED PLANNING PROJECT.
WE HAVE TO CLEAR, UH, PROJECT FOR TEXDOT AND LOGICAL TERMINI.
SO THE LOGICAL TERMINI ARE BETWEEN 2 0 5 AND 80.
SO WE'RE ENVIRONMENTALLY CLEARING ALL OF THE 5 48 AT THIS TIME.
BUT WE'RE ONLY GONNA BE FOCUSING ON THE P, S AND E AND THE CONSTRUCTION, UH, ON 5 48 ONCE WE GET DONE ON THAT SMALLER SECTION ON THE NEXT PAGE.
AND RIGHT NOW WE ARE ANTICIPATING ENVIRONMENTAL CLEARANCE ON THIS JOB BY JUNE OF 2019.
SO YOU HAVE ASTERISK FOR A HUNDRED PERCENT PLANS, ACQUISITION UTILITY, YOUR LOCATIONS.
WE HAVE A PROJECTED DATE OF 2023, BUT IF WE GET THE PROJECT CLEARED, THIS IS CLOSE TO ALL OF OUR PROJECTS.
IF WE GET THE ENVIRONMENTAL CLEARANCE DONE, WE'RE ABLE TO EXPEDITE THE RIGHT ACQUISITION AND NEW UTILITY RELOCATIONS.
AND IF IT HAPPENS QUICKER AND WE ANTICIPATED, THEN WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO MOVE THE PROJECT UP IN THE LETTING STATE.
AND THAT'S THE SAME AS ON PAGE EIGHT.
SAME PROJECT, JUST A QUARTER SECTION CONSTRUC.
SO 9 86 WAS A PROJECT THAT WAS IN, UH, UH, PLANNING TO BE, UH, DONE PLANNING ON IT WAS IN THE, UM, TERRELL AREA.
TERRELL ASKED US TO STAND DOWN ON THIS PROJECT AND TO TRANSFER THESE FUNDS TO THE SHORTFALL ON THE 5 45 57 1 48 JOB.
SO ESSENTIALLY THIS MONIES HAVE BEEN MOVED.
WE'LL SEE IT AND THE REPORT AND THIS PROJECT IS ON HOLD UNTIL FROM TIME IN THE FUTURE.
ALSO AT TERRELL WE HAVE A, UH, WHAT'S CALLED A SANDBOX SCHEDULE, WHICH ESSENTIALLY IS WHAT
WE ARE WORKING RIGHT NOW ON THE SCHEMATIC, WE'RE GETTING COMMENTS ON A HUNDRED PERCENT SCHEMATIC, WHICH MEANS RIGHT NOW WE'RE ARGUING ABOUT WHERE SIDEWALKS GO, DRAINAGE OUT FALLS, ET CETERA.
AND WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE THESE IMPROVEMENTS AT THE 82 0 5 1 48 INTERSECTION, PRIMARILY WITHIN EXISTING RIGHT OF WAY SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF, UM, AUTO EDGE SHOULD REQUIRE.
THERE WILL BE SOME TAPE ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF 2 0 5, JUST EAST OF 1 48 WHERE THAT CAR LOT IS.
THERE'S SOME ENCROACHMENT THAT'S GOING ON IN THAT AREA ALREADY.
SO WE HAVE TO, WHEN WE CLEAR THE PROJECT, WE HAVE TO TAKE BACK THAT RIGHT OF AWAY.
SO WE'RE ANTICIPATING IT CLEARED, UM, AUGUST OF, UM, 2018 AND THEN POST THE SCHEDULE AFTER.
WHEN YOU SAY TAKE BACK THE RIGHT OF WAY, IT'S ALREADY TEXT STOCK, TEXT TRUCK'S.
THEY'VE BEEN USING IT THE DEALERSHIP.
AND SO WHEN WE COME TO WIDEN THE ROAD AND MAKE IMPROVEMENTS, WE'LL PUT THE DRIVEWAYS LAST, WE, THE STATE WILL PUT THE DRIVEWAYS BACK AS 36 FOOT FIVE DRIVES OR WHATEVER IS ALLOWED.
THEY'LL, THEY'LL REPOSSESS WHAT THEY ALREADY POSSESS.
THEY LIKE TO USE IT FOR AS LONG AS YOU WANT, AS LONG AS THEY DON'T NEED IT.
AS SOON AS THEY NEED IT, THEY TAKE IT FROM YOU.
SO SOUTHBOUND UH, US 75 SOUTHBOUND FRONT GROVE AND F1 40 BYPASS NEED TO KIND OF BE TAKEN TOGETHER BECAUSE THEY IMPACT EACH OTHER AND WE ARE HAVING A CONVERSATION AND UM, COMMISSIONER ALLEN, I HOPE YOU HEARD SOME OF THIS LAST NIGHT, UH, BUT WE MAY BE TAKING 1 75 OVER TO 1 48 BYPASS BECAUSE WHAT TEXAS ASKING US TO DO IS WE'RE GONNA FLARE THE FRONTAGE ROADS OUT FOR 1 48 TO HAVE AN ACTUAL TYING IN INTO THE FIRM DRILL SYSTEM.
THEY DECIDED THAT WE NEEDED TO HAVE A 50 MILE AN HOUR DESIGN SPEED AS OPPOSED TO A 40, WHICH WOULD REQUIRE THE ROAD RAMP TO BE FURTHER OUT AND TAKE A SIGNIFICANT MORE RIGHT OF WAY THAN SOME ADDITIONAL COST.
WE COMPARED THE COST OF FLARING IT TO A 50 MILE AN HOUR DESIGN SPEED VERSUS TAKING 1 75 UP AND 1 48 UNDER AND IT WAS A WASH.
AND IF YOU TAKE 1 48 UNDER AND TAKE 1 7 5 OVER, THEN YOU OPEN UP THOSE FOUR QUADRANTS OF DEVELOPMENT.
SO WE MAY BE DOING A RETHINK ON THE SCHEMATIC AND UH, BUT IT MAY BE A HALF STEP BACK, BUT THE NEXT STEP WE TAKE FORWARD WILL BE PROBABLY EAT BETTER, DESIGN LESS RIGHT OF WEIGHT AND MORE DEVELOPABLE.
AND DID YOU HAVE, SO I ALREADY COVERED 1 48 ABOUT THAT AS WELL.
WE'RE IN PROCESS OF MOVING THROUGH THIS PROJECT.
WE MAY HAVE TO COME BACK AND DO A LITTLE BIT OF CHANGE ON THE SCHEMATIC DEPENDING UPON THAT LAST CONVERSATION I JUST HAD ABOUT TAKING 1.8 1 4800.
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DON'T MAKE ANY SENSE.ALRIGHT, SO THEN WE GOT PRO, UH, UH,
YOU CAN SEE WE HAVE THREE DIFFERENT, UH, CONTROL SECTION JUDGE NUMBERS.
THE RED OR WHATEVER THAT CAR IS IN THE TOP.
IT'S UH, PROJECT THAT'S GOT FUNDING IN IT.
THE BELOW IS A PROJECT THAT'S GOT FUNDING IN IT.
ESSENTIALLY WE'RE WORKING ON THE GREEN SECTION AND UM, WE HAVE, UM, UH, PLANS ON GETTING THE, UH, THE PLANS DOWN TO AUSTIN ON 27TH ON APRIL OF 2017, WHICH WE DID DO THAT.
AND WHAT TEXAS IS TELLING US IS THAT WE NEED TO COME BACK AND DO SOME MORE WORK ON THE 34 INTERSECTION FOR THAT AND THEN THEY'LL GIVE US A SCHEDULE ON THE ENVIRONMENTAL DOCUMENT.
SO WE'RE IN THAT PRELIMINARY, UH, LAYOUT OF THE TIE IN AT 34 AND 1385 BECAUSE FOR WHATEVER REASON TEXAS HAS THIS PROJECT IN THREE DIFFERENT SECTIONS.
WE'RE TREATING IT AS ONE WHOLE JOB.
OKAY, SO 34 FROM UH, KAUFMAN SOUTH OUT OF THE COUNTY LINE.
IT'S BASICALLY IN TWO PROJECTS.
WHAT, UM, TEX DO SAID THEY WANTED TO DO ON THIS JOB.
OUR JOB WAS ALL THE WAY FROM KAUFMAN ALL THE WAY TO THE ALEX COUNTY LINE.
BUT BASICALLY T DOTS ASKED US TO DO IS SPLIT IT UP INTO TWO JOBS TO SECTION, UH, 34 1 B IS THE, UH, PROJECT WHERE IT'S JUST BASICALLY THE ROADWAY IMPROVEMENTS AND THEN THE SEGMENT, I GOT IT JUST BACKWARDS.
THE RED IS WHERE IT SAYS ROADWAY IMPROVEMENTS.
THE BLUE IS WHERE IT'S BASICALLY FIVE BRIDGES AND A LITTLE BIT OF ROAD TYING INTO IT.
SO IF YOU'LL TURN TO THE NEXT PAGE, YOU'LL SEE THAT UH, IT LISTS THE BRIDGES, KING CREEK, KING CREEK NUMBER THREE, KING CREEK RELIEF ONE AT KING CREEK BRIDGE TWO.
AND AND THIS PROJECT HAS CAT SIX FUNDING IN IT, WHICH IS BRIDGE REPLACEMENT.
SO TEXAS THAT'S ESSENTIALLY GOING TO COVER THIS SECTION OF THE ROADWAY.
AND THEY'RE ASKING US TO PUT OUR EFFORT AND FOCUS IN THE RED SECTION ON PAGE 14 AND WE HAVE LTRA ON CONTRACT AND UH, WE HAD TO NEGOTIATE THE SPLIT TO THE PROJECT.
SO NOW THAT WE'VE GOT THE NEGOTIATION SPLIT, THEY'LL COME BACK AND GIVE US A SCHEDULE ON WHEN THEY CAN HAVE THE PROJECT READY TO BE ENVIRONMENTALLY CLEARED.
I KNOW IT SOUNDS CONVOLUTED, BUT WHEN YOU START USING DIFFERENT FUNDING CATEGORIES TO BUILD PROJECTS, SOMETIMES YOU HAVE TO DO THINGS THAT DON'T MAKE SENSE FROM A DESIGN STANDPOINT, BUT THEY MAKE SENSE A FUNDING STANDPOINT AND THAT TAKES THAT WHOLE CHUNK OF 34 OFF OF OUR RESPONSIBILITY TO HAVE TO HELP FIND A WAY TO GET THE FUNDING.
IT MAKES OUR DOLLARS, OTHERWISE WE WOULDN'T HAVE DONE IT.
SO THAT'S THE TWO 30 FOURS COUNTY ROAD 1 51 IS A KAUFMAN ICA, UH, THIS PROJECT WAS DONE AND IT HAD TO BE REDESIGNED BECAUSE THE COST WAS HIGHER THAN THE CITY HAD ANTICIPATED.
AND UH, THEY'RE EXPECTED TO HAVE JUST REDESIGNED AND REBI DONE BY JULY, 2017.
AND THAT'S ALL I KNOW FROM THE CITY.
AND I THINK WHAT THEY'RE LOOKING AT IS THE SEED IF THEY COULD DO SOME VALUE ENGINEERING ON IT TO UH, STILL GET IN WITHIN THE NUMBERS THEY HAVE.
THEN THIS IS THE 1 48 NORTH TERRELL.
THIS IS PART OF THE ICA WITH TERRELL THAT WE HAVE ON THE, UH, PASTOR TOLLING PROJECT.
AND THIS IS A PROJECT WHERE THEY WERE ABOUT $7 MILLION SHORT IN FUNDING AND WE WERE, THE COUNTY WAS ABLE TO WORK A DEAL WITH COG WHERE COG WOULD TAKE THE CITY'S $6.4 MILLION IN PASS THROUGH TOLLING PAYMENTS.
THAT THAT'S THEIR SHARE THAT DOESN'T IMPACT THE 4.6 MILLION COUNTY GETTING BACK.
TAKE THAT 6.4 MILLION COMMITTED TO
AND THEY, THEY'RE OKAY WITH THAT BECAUSE THAT'S A REVENUE STREAM THAT THEY DIDN'T OTHERWISE HAVE AND WE'RE OKAY WITH IT BECAUSE WE DON'T START GETTING THE F**K THE MAJORITY OF OUR MONEY ON THE PASS THROUGH UNTIL THE 1 48 PART OF THIS PROJECT IS DONE.
SO IT KIND OF WORKED OUT VERY BIT.
ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT? NO KNOW YOU WORKED WITH MICHAEL RS P? YES SIR.
SO WE'RE LOOKING AT A 2017 SEPTEMBER, 2017 LET DATE.
AND UH, THAT MAY OR MAY NOT HAPPEN
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BECAUSE IF YOU'LL LOOK, WE'RE ALSO SHOWING YOU UTILITY LOCATIONS OF DECEMBER.SOMETIMES I DO LET JOBS WITH THE UTILITY STILL OUTSTANDING AS LONG AS THE UTILITY RIDE A CER PRIVATE CERTIFICATION THAT BE DONE BY DATE SPECIFIC.
BECAUSE IF YOU LET A PROJECT IN SEPTEMBER, IT'S USUALLY OCTOBER, IT'S NOVEMBER, DECEMBER BEFORE THEY'RE ABLE TO MOBILIZE AND GET THE BONDS IN.
AND TYPICALLY NOT A LOT GOES ON IN DECEMBER, SO IT'S LIKE JANUARY.
SO THEY REALLY BELIEVE THE UTILITIES WILL BE DONE BY DECEMBER.
THEY MAY GO AHEAD AND STILL LET THE PROJECT IN SEPTEMBER, BUT THAT'S YET TO BE DETERMINED THAT THAT'S DETERMINED 60 DAYS PRIOR TO SEPTEMBER.
SO WE'RE ON THE BUBBLE ON THIS PROJECT RIGHT NOW ON THE WHAT DATE AND THERE'S MORE INFORMATION IN THERE.
I JUST DIDN'T KNOW IF YOU WANTED GO OVER IT TODAY.
SO, UH, WE WORKED WITH UH, UH, T ON ON THIS WAS 41 WAS A PROJECT THAT WAS IN AN OLD PASS TOLLING AGREEMENT IN 40 40.
COULDN'T MOVE FORWARD WITH THE PASS TOING PROJECT FOR LEGAL REASONS.
AND SO WE CANCELED THE PASS TOLLING AND THE COUNTY AGREED TO JUST GO AHEAD AND MOVE FORWARD WITH THE UH, ADVANCE PLANNING ON 1641.
WE'LL COORDINATE WITH
THE TDOT WILL COVER LIKE THE SUE WORK, WHICH IS YOUR UTILITY UNDERGROUND UTILITY WORK.
THE STATE WANTS TO PROVIDE THE SURVEY.
SO WE'RE TRYING TO GET ALL THE THINGS THAT THE T'S WILLING TO PAY US TO DO, WILLING TO PAY TO DO SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO PAY THE CONSULTANT TO DO THAT, TO KEEP AS MUCH OF OUR POWDER DRY AS PROJECT APPROXIMATELY.
I KNOW THIS IS A BIG PROJECT AND STEVE COURSE IS NOT HERE BUT 1641 FROM 5 48 TO INTERSTATE 22.
AGAIN WAS THE VERY BEGINNING OF IT BEGINNING.
SO YOUR 34 ADVANCED PLANNING, THIS IS THE PROJECT, GONNA TAKE THE ROAD SOMEWHERE FROM TAR WHERE THEY WANTED TO START.
YOU COME TO COFFIN SOMEWHERE WHERE THEY WANTED TO BE IN THIS BLUE LINE JUST SIMPLY GOES DOWN EXISTING 34 HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH WHAT THAT ALIGNMENT WILL BE BECAUSE NOBODY KNOWS WHAT THAT WILL BE YET.
THERE'S A ALIGNMENT THAT TERRELL AND KAUFMAN HAVE KEYED IN ON AND THERE'S AN ALIGNMENT THAT SHOWS SOMETHING GOING DOWN EXISTING AND THEN WE'RE TAKING THE FARTHEST WEST ONE AND
SO TEXTILES AGREE TO PICK UP THE ENGINEERING ON THIS.
WE WERE GONNA, WE THOUGHT WE WERE GONNA HAVE TO DO THAT, BUT UH, THEY'RE TELLING US THEY'LL PICK UP THE ENGINEERING FIRM.
ACTUALLY THEY HAVE MY ASSISTANT PUT IT IN THERE.
IT'S LOTS ENGINEERING AND CHARLES TAF IS THE CONTACT PERSON.
SO WE'LL GET A SCHEDULE FROM HIM ON WHEN HE STARTS TO TALK ABOUT GOING OUT AND MEETING WITH THE UH, STAKEHOLDERS.
AND QUITE FRANKLY, THE REASON I WANTED UM, TECH STOP TO DUTY ADVANCE PLANNING ON THIS IS BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW THAT TECH STOP'S REALLY IN AGREEMENT WITH CLA, TERRELL AND KAUFMAN WANT THE ALIGNMENT TO GO AND I FIGURED THE COUNTY DIDN'T WANT TO BE THE ONE IN THE MIDDLE OF THAT FIGHT.
SO WE BE ON THE SIDELINES JUST WATCHING THEM ALL.
WELL THAT'S OUTTA LOOP IS ALL I CARE.
GERALD AND KAUFMAN ARE AGREEMENT ON THE A.
IT'S
SO I FIGURED THE COUNTY DIDN'T NEED TO GET BEATING FOR THAT.
YEAH, BUT IT'S BETTER TO GET A BEATING THAN YOU DON'T DESERVE, THAN YOU DO DESERVE.
OKAY, SO PROJECT 20 IS YOUR STRATEGIC PROJECT FUNDING ALSO, THIS WAS TO COVER THE OBLIGATIONS OF THE CAN DAY PRIOR LONG PROGRAM ON ITS 34, UH, PROJECT.
AND SO I JUST LIST OFF ALL OF THESE ITEMS THAT WE'VE DONE AND WHEN WE'VE DONE IT, SHOW YOU WHERE YOUR MONEY'S GOING.
THIS ISN'T REALLY PART OF OUR BOND PROGRAM PER SE, BUT IT IS A PROJECT THAT GOES FROM THE UH, 82 0 5, 1 48 INTERCHANGE ALL THE WAY INTO, UM, THROUGH THIS MAP ALL THE WAY INTO ELLIS, UH, COLLIN COUNTY.
AND SO TDOT'S GOT A ENGINEERING FIRM HALF BETWEEN THESE WORK AND THEY'RE PLANNING ON HAVING THE PROJECT CLEARED BY MAY OF 2019, WHICH IS CRITICAL 'CAUSE WE NEED TO MAKE IMPROVEMENTS TO 2 0 5.
AND ONCE IT'S SET, THE CROSS SECTION IS SET AND IT'S GOING FROM TWO LANE WORLD TO A FOUR LANE DIVIDED URBAN, THEN THE COMMUNITIES THAT IT GOES THROUGH WILL BE ABLE TO PROTECT, UM, THE CORRIDOR.
AND I FOUND NEW LEGISLATION THAT ALLOW COUNTIES TO PROTECT CORRIDORS TO A HIGHER CROSS SECTION THAN WE OTHERWISE WOULD'VE IF PROJECT IS ON A THOROUGH FLOOR PLAN AND PART OF THE MOBILITY PLAN, WHICH 2 0 5 IS.
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WAY WE'LL START TO PROTECT THE CORRIDOR AS WE GO FORWARD.AND THAT IS THE PROJECT STATUS MINIMUM VERY QUICKLY THAT ALRIGHT, SO OUR OBLIGATION ONCE I HAND YOU THAT, SO, OKAY, SO I KNOW THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF CONVERSATIONS ABOUT BOND FUNDING AND ISSUES.
SO WHAT I SIMPLY DID WAS, WAS, UM, NOT ME, ME, MY STAFF THAT WERE SMARTER THAN ME, BUT IF YOU LOOK AT THAT COLUMN ON THE VERY FAR LEFT, THERE'S NUMBERS THAT DON'T MAKE ANY SENSE, RIGHT? 1, 5, 6, 7, 8, THOSE WERE THE PROJECTS LISTED IN THE BOND PACKAGE.
WHAT I DID WAS I WENT TO THE THIRD COLUMN, IT SAYS PRECINCT AND I TOLD MY EXCEL TO SORT BY PRECINCT.
SO I WAS ABLE TO DO THAT TO SHOW YOU, 'CAUSE SOME OF Y'ALL WEREN'T HERE AT THE BEGINNING OF THE BOND PROGRAM.
THE INTENT WAS TO AS CLOSE AS POSSIBLE GIVEN THE SITUATIONS THAT WE HAD AT THE TIME TO PUT MONEY INTO EACH PRECINCT, GENERALLY TO THE EXTENT POSSIBLE IS EQUAL AS POSSIBLE.
AND YOU'LL SEE THAT THEY'RE NOT COMPLETELY EQUAL AND SOMETIMES MORE THAN NOT EQUAL.
BUT THAT'S WHAT EVERYBODY AGREED TO ON THE TIME.
AND SO IF YOU LOOK AT PRECINCT ONE, YOU'VE GOT YOUR COUNTY ROAD FUNDING, THE 34 BYPASS, 1 51 2 2 2 40 THREES AND HIGHWAY 34 ADVANCED PLANNING.
NOW YOU SEE THERE'S AN ASTERISK ON THOSE, I'M GONNA GET TO THAT IN A SECOND.
UM, AND THEN PRECINCT TWO HAS THEIR LIST, PRECINCT THREE AND PRECINCT FOUR.
AND AT THE BOTTOM YOU'VE GOT TWO NUMBERS.
YOU HAVE A, A PROJECT THAT WE WERE FUNDED.
IT WAS CALLED REGIONAL GUARD FAIR PLAN.
SO IT DIDN'T GET ALLOCATED TO ANYBODY BECAUSE IT WAS COUNTYWIDE.
AND THEN THERE'S THIS STRATEGIC PROJECT FUNDING THAT HAD $3 MILLION IN IT THAT WAS USED TO, UM, DEAL WITH PRO THINGS THAT WE DIDN'T FORESEE WHEN WE PASSED THE BOND PACKAGE.
AND RIGHT AFTER WE PASSED THE BOND PACKAGE CHECKS DO SENT US A BILL FOR $950,000 FOR OUR PART OF CONSTRUCTION ON S 6 34.
SO WE HAVE SPENT ALL THAT 260,000 OF THE STRATEGIC PROJECT COMES.
SO YOU GOT THE ORIGINAL BOND COMMITMENT ONE COLUMN, THEN YOU'VE GOT THE CURRENT BOND COMMITMENT.
UH, AND REALLY THAT SHOULD SAY, UH, WHETHER THESE FUNDS ARE, ARE STILL AVAILABLE, ARE STILL NECESSARY FOR THE PROJECT.
SO FOR EXAMPLE, IF YOU LOOK AT PRECINCT ONE, HIGHWAY 34 ADVANCED PLANNING, 1.5 MILLION IS THE CURRENT AMOUNT.
AND I'M SAYING WE STILL NEED 1,000,005, SO THERE'S NOTHING AVAILABLE FOR OTHER THINGS.
HOWEVER, THAT'S THE SECTION THAT TTOS AGREED TO PICK UP THE ADVANCED PLANNING ON.
SO WE WON'T NECESSARILY NEED TO PUT THOSE MONIES INTO THAT PROJECT.
SO ONCE I GET CONFIRMATION, WHICH IT LOOKS LIKE THEY ALREADY DID AND DIDN'T TELL ME, I CAN COME BACK AND SAY, ALL RIGHT COMMISSIONER, I CAN MOVE THAT MONEY OVER TO THE COLUMN CALLED, IT DOESN'T NEED TO BE USED ON 6 34 ANYMORE AND IT GOES TO BE OF FUNDS AVAILABLE COLUMN.
BUT WHEN I SAY FUNDS AVAILABLE, I'M NOT SAYING YOU SHOULD OR SHOULDN'T DO ANYTHING WITH IT, I'M SAYING IT'S JUST NOT NEEDED FOR THAT PROJECT.
AND SO YOU HAD A PRECINCT ONE HAD A TOTAL ORIGINAL, UH, BOND PROGRAM AMOUNT OF $12.9 MILLION IN THE BOND PACKAGE AND THEN WE GET TO, UH, PRECINCT TWO AND IT WAS COUNTY ROADS USA RAMP REALLOCATION 1641, THE 2 5 40 EIGHTS AND THE HIGHWAY 80 REGIONAL PLANNING STUDY.
SO WE'VE ALREADY DONE THE REGIONAL PLANNING STUDY, FREEZE NICHOLS WAS COMPLETED IT AND TURNED IT IN AND CONTRACTED THAT FOR $845,000.
SO THERE'S 154,000 IN SOME CHANGE THAT IS NOT A AVAIL, NOT NECESSARILY NEEDED ANYMORE FOR THE REGIONAL PLANNING STUDY.
AND THEN YOU GO UP TO THE USA RAMP RELOCATIONS THAT I WAS TELLING YOU ABOUT, UH, SINCE
THEN YOU GET TO PRECINCT THREE AND IT'S ALL IN TAR.
ALMOST ALL OF THIS IS, UM, COVERED BY EITHER AN INTERLOCAL WITH TERRELL OR, OR THE 9 86 ADVANCED PLANNING, WHICH WAS BASICALLY CANNIBALIZED.
IF YOU LOOK, UH, THE MILLION DOLLARS FOR 9 86 WAS UH, TAKEN OUT AND MOVED DOWN TO THE SX.
SO YOU STARTED WITH 17.2 MILLION BUCKS, YOU STILL HAVE $17.2 MILLION IN PROJECTS THAT YOU'RE WORKING ON, BUT YOU DON'T HAVE ANYTHING THAT'S RIGHT NOW IDENTIFIED AS NOT BEING NEEDED FOR THOSE PROJECTS.
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AND THEN YOU GET TO PRECINCT FOUR AND LIKE I SAID, UH, THERE'S 1 75 18 95 INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENT.SO THOSE $200,000 IS NOT NEEDED FOR THAT JOB.
SO IT MOVES OVER TO THE AVAILABLE FUNDING CALL.
SO, UM, THERE'S REGIONAL TRANSPORTATION PLAN.
WE HAD A MILLION BUCKS HERE, MARCH FOR ESTIMATE CAME IN IN 9 8 7 8 9 7.
SO WE HAVE $102,000 SOME CHANGE THAT'S NOT NEEDED FOR THE REGIONAL TRANSPORTATION PLAN AS THE REGIONAL PLAN HAS BEEN ADOPTED BY THE COURT AND THERE'S $260,000 LEFT AND STRATEGIC PROJECT FUNDING.
SO OVERALL YOU HAVE ABOUT $2.2 MILLION THAT'S AVAILABLE FOR OTHER PRIORITIES.
BUT I DID IT THIS WAY SO YOU'D KNOW THAT WHEN THE COURT ORIGINALLY ADOPTED THE BOND PACKAGE, THESE PROJECTS WERE PUT IN 3 CENTS.
AND SO WHEN YOU HAVE DOLLARS THAT COME AVAILABLE, MY RECOMMENDATION IS IS THAT THEY STAY WITHIN THE PRECINCT THAT THEY WERE MADE AVAILABLE BECAUSE IT WOULD SKEW THE, THE DOLLAR AMOUNTS MORE THAN WHAT THEY WERE TO BEGIN WITH.
SO IF YOU LOOK AT LIKE PRECINCT TWO, UM, IT HAD $11 MILLION IN IT AND THEN PRECINCT FOUR HAD TEN NINE AND THE OTHER TWO IES HAD 13 AND 17 COMPARATIVE.
AND SO THE AREAS WHERE THERE'S FUNDS AVAILABLE ARE ON THOSE TWO PRECINCTS THAT HISTORICALLY GOT LESS MONEY, UH, TO BEGIN WITH.
SO IF YOU MOVE AROUND, I'M ASKING YOU TO, AND I'M NOT, I'M NOT EVEN CONDONING MOVING IT AROUND.
BUT BEFORE YOU DO ANYTHING, I WOULD SAY LET'S TALK ABOUT POLICIES AND PROCEDURES ON HOW WE DO IT WITHOUT OFFENDING ANYBODY OR YOU CAN JUST SAY YOU DON'T NEED YOUR OPINION.
WHAT YOU WANTED ME TO COVER, JUDGE, I THAT I THINK COVERS IT.
I JUST THINK TO HAVE AN UPDATE ON REGARD SOME FRESH INFORMATION FOR US AS WELL.
COMMISSIONERS, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF JOHN OR ANYTHING? PRETTY WELL LAY OUT.
SO THE ONLY OTHER THING I WANT TO ADD IS, IS THAT, UM, COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENTS NOTICED THAT WE HAD LIKE $7.1 MILLION IN RTR FUNDS THAT WERE TELL 'EM WHAT? RTR.
UH, BACK IN THE 2006 TIMEFRAME, THE REGION UH, CAME TO AN AGREEMENT ON BASICALLY TAKING THIS, UH, SH 1 21 AND DENTON DALLAS AND COLLIN COUNTY AND TURNING IT INTO A TOLL ROAD.
THAT TOLL ROAD GENERATED $3.2 BILLION IN PAYMENT, UPFRONT PAYMENT FROM THE NORTH TEXAS TOLLWAY AUTHORITY.
A CHECK WRITTEN FOR $3.2 BILLION.
IT WAS DEPOSITED IN THE, UH, HIGHWAY FUND FOR FUND SIX AT TEX DOT, BUT SUB ALLOCATED TO THE DALLAS DISTRICT AND THEN SUB ALLOCATED TO THE COUNTIES WITHIN THAT DISTRICT.
SO IT WAS KIND OF LIKE A GREAT COMPROMISE.
THERE WERE COUNTIES THAT HAD TO VOTE TO SAY YES TO DO THIS, BUT WEREN'T THOSE THREE COUNTIES.
AND SO WHAT THE REGION DECIDED TO DO TO BUY EVERYBODY OFF, FOR LACK OF A BETTER WORD, IS TAKE 75% OF THAT MONEY AND ALLOCATED BETWEEN THE THREE COUNTIES THAT GENERATED THE PROJECT AND THEN TOOK 25% OF THAT MONEY AND ALLOCATED TO ALL THE OTHER COUNTIES IN THE NORTH TEXAS REGION BY THE PERCENTAGE OF TOLL TAG USERS THAT RESIDE WITHIN THE COUNTY.
AND SO THAT ALLOCATED MONEY TO ALL THE COUNTIES AND EVERYBODY HAD A REASON, GREATER OR LESSER TO VOTE YES ON IT.
AND SO KAUFMAN COUNTY HAD VERY LITTLE IN THAT ACCOUNT, BUT WE DID, A FEW YEARS LATER, WE GOT WHAT WAS CALLED FOUR C SUPPLEMENTAL FUNDS THAT WE COULDN'T, WAS COME OUT OF PROP 12 THAT WE COULDN'T USE RIGHT THEN.
AND PROP 12 HAD A, UM, EXPIRATION DATE.
SO WHAT WE DID WAS WE TOOK OUR 7.1 MILLION IN PROP 12 MONEY, GAVE IT TO THE REGION TO SPEND SOMEWHERE ELSE, AND THEY GAVE US BACK 7.1 MILLION IN RTR FUNDS, WHICH DON'T HAVE AN EXPIRATION DATE.
FAST FORWARD TO THREE MONTHS AGO, COG USES THOSE RTR FUNDS.
THEY DON'T HAVE STATE GUIDELINES, THEY DON'T HAVE FEDERAL GUIDELINES.
THEY'RE UM, UNHAMPERED DOLLARS.
THEY'RE, THEY'RE FUNGIBLE, THEY'VE GOT THINGS THEY WANT TO DO THAT THEY, THEY DON'T HAVE JURISDICTION AUTHORITY TO DO WITH THE MONEY THEY HAVE, BUT THEY CAN DO IT WITH REGULAR LOCAL DOLLARS.
SO WHAT THEY CAME TO US AND SAID, HEY, WE WANT YOUR 7.1 MILLION AND YOU OKAY, UH, THOSE ARE BETTER MONEY THAN WHAT YOU GOT.
SO WE MADE A DEAL WHERE THEY GAVE US $10 MILLION IN, UH, ON SYSTEM FEDERAL DOLLARS BECAUSE IF YOU LOOK, MOST OF OUR PROJECTS IN OUR BOND PROGRAMS ARE ON SYSTEM.
SO THEY'RE ELIGIBLE FOR FEDERAL DOLLARS.
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SO WE AGREED TO GIVE 'EM THE 7.1 AND THEY'VE AGREED TO GIVE US THE 10 MILLION AND WE'RE NEGOTIATING WHETHER IT'LL BE AN FFY 18 OR 19, IT'LL BE DEPENDENT UPON WHERE IT GOES ON WHICH ONE OF THESE HORSES THAT ARE BASICALLY ON A HORSE RACE RIGHT NOW, WHICHEVER ONE GETS TO THE FINISH LINE FIRST AND NEEDS THE FUNDS, THAT'S WHERE WE'LL PUT THEM.SO BASICALLY WE WENT FROM 7.1 TO 10 MILLION, 10 MILLION AND THAT'S FLEXIBLE.
IF WE NEED MORE, OUR MONEY STILL WORTH MORE THAN 10, BUT WE CAN NEGOTIATE THAT WHEN IT GETS THERE.
ALRIGHT, OTHER QUESTIONS FOR JOHN? ANYBODY? IS IT ON HERE? YEAH, I GUESS.
SO CALL ME IF Y'ALL NEED ANYTHING.
HE WORRY ABOUT SOMEBODY STATING HIS MONEY.
LET'S MOVE NOW INTO THE LAURIE POOL.
KAREN YOU WANT? I KIND LIKE KAREN.
THAT'S, UH, KAREN, UH, LAURIE AND TALK ABOUT THE PERSONNEL POLICY.
ALRIGHT, SO, UM, WHAT I'VE DONE IS I'VE KIND OF HOBBLED THROUGH THIS BECAUSE I HAD, SO WHEN I HAD WAS THE ORIGINAL HANDBOOK I THOUGHT, AND THEN I REALIZED THAT I DIDN'T HAVE THE ORIGINAL HANDBOOK, I HAD THE VERSION BEFORE.
SO I THIS IS THE ONE WE GOT IS NOT NO, THAT'S THAT'S THE CURRENT NUMBER, RIGHT? I MISSED PART OF YOURS.
AND THAT ONE IS THE CURRENT MARKED UP VERSION.
THIS, THIS ONE IS THE ONE I MARKED UP.
SO WHAT YOU HAVE IS YOU HAVE A SAMPLE HANDBOOK FROM TAC AND YOU HAVE THE VERSION THAT I JUST MARKED UP OF OURS.
EVERYBODY MARKED THAT VERSION.
YEAH, BUT I HAD TO GO IT THE WRONG ONE.
SO THE ONE WE GOT, THAT'S WHY I WAS ASKING ONE QUESTION.
THE ONE THAT YOU HAD IN THE EMAIL WAS WRONG.
THAT'S WHAT I WAS ASKING BECAUSE, UM, IT WAS THE ONE THAT TACK HAD MARKED UP AND IT WAS THE, THE VERSION PREVIOUS TO THIS ONE.
SO WHAT I DID WAS I WENT THROUGH IT AND I, AND I READ THROUGH IT AND I COMPARED IT TO THE TAC HANDBOOK, THE SAMPLE HANDBOOK THAT THEY, WITH THEIR SUGGESTIONS.
AND I MARKED IT UP AND IT'S HARD TO TELL, I'LL SEND THIS TO YOU ELECTRONICALLY AS WELL BECAUSE IT'S IN COLOR.
SO YOU'LL SEE MY MARKUPS ARE IN COLOR.
SO YOU CAN KIND OF SEE WHAT I'VE MARKED UP AS AN ISSUE AND I'M JUST BLACKING MY POCKETS, WHAT I SEEN IN HERE.
BUT BASICALLY IN RED I'VE ADDED THINGS THAT I THINK OUR TACK THOUGHT WE SHOULD ADD TO OUR POLICY AND, AND CROSS OUT THINGS THAT SHOULDN'T BE FILED.
SO YOU'LL SEE, YOU'LL SEE THE STRIKEOUTS AND THE OLD POLICY IF IT'S HIGH, IF THE WHOLE POLICY'S HIGHLIGHTED, THAT MEANS I PROBABLY NEED TO TALK TO THE ATTORNEYS.
'CAUSE I, YOU KNOW, OR I DON'T KNOW, SOMETIMES I, AND I'LL SEND A COVER SHEET WITH THIS IS WHAT I THINK SOMETIMES I DON'T THINK THAT WHOLE POLICY NEEDS TO BE THERE.
IT MIGHT BE THE WHOLE FMLA REGULATION.
I DON'T THINK WE NEED ALL THAT.
NEITHER DOES TAG, THEY DON'T SUGGEST THAT THE WHOLE FMLA REGULATION IN THE HANDBOOK.
UM, ANOTHER ISSUE THAT I HAD IS THAT THE LAYOUT IS, IT SEEMS TO BE VERY CONFUSING.
YOU HAVE BENEFITS IN SOME PLACES AND COMP IN SOME PLACES AND I THINK IT NEEDS TO JUST BE REORGANIZED TO SOME DEGREE.
UM, AND I'VE KIND OF NOTED THAT THOSE THINGS IN MY NOTES.
UM, SOME OTHER THINGS WITH REGARD TO PAYROLL.
UM, WE TALKED ABOUT THIS IN
UM, IT SAYS ON HERE THAT THINGS NEED TO BE, UH, SUBMITTED TO THE COUNTY AUDITOR FOR PAYROLL LIKE TIME SHEETS AND THINGS LIKE THIS REALLY
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TO THE TREASURER'S OFFICE.SO I CHANGED THINGS LIKE THAT.
UM, AND THEN IF I SAY THAT I THINK WE SHOULD DO THE TAC EXAMPLE, I EITHER TYPED THE TAC EXAMPLE AND, AND TOLD YOU I DID THAT OR I SAID SEE THE T EXAMPLE IF I DIDN'T GET TO THAT, BECAUSE LIKE I SAID, I AUDIT, I REVIEWED ONE HANDBOOK AND DID THAT AND THEN FOUND OUT I HAD THE WRONG HANDBOOK SO I HAD TO DO ANOTHER.
UM, I ALSO HAVE, WILL INCLUDE SOME SAMPLES OF SOME DOCUMENTS THAT I THINK THINK WE NEED TO INCLUDE IN THE HANDBOOK SUCH AS APPAREL DEDUCTION AUTHORIZATION BECAUSE WE DON'T CURRENTLY HAVE ONE.
UM, I LOOKED AT THE LEGISLATION AND WE DO HAVE TO HAVE AN AUTHORIZATION FOR DEDUCTIONS WHEN WE TAKE SOMETHING ON H CHECK.
SO THEY NEED TO SIGN THAT FOR LIKE, WE'RE GONNA TAKE A DEDUCTION OUT FOR BENEFITS FOR ANYTHING.
WE HAVE TO HAVE AN AUTHORIZATION ON FILE.
UM, THERE'S A THING IN THERE THAT I THOUGHT MAYBE DON'T NEED TO BE IN THERE SUCH AS PROCEDURES SO MUCH.
I THINK MAYBE WE NEED A PROCEDURE MANUAL INSTEAD OF THAT BEING A PERSONAL MANUAL.
IT'S WHEN YOU'RE GONNA HIRE SOMEONE, MAYBE THAT'S A PROCEDURE BECAUSE THAT'S SOME SOMEBODY'S ALREADY HIRED.
THAT'S NOT NECESSARILY SOMETHING THAT'S GONNA HAPPEN AFTER SOMEBODY GETS HERE.
THAT MAY BE A PROCEDURE MANUAL FOR HR AND TO GET TO DEPARTMENT HEADS, THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING THAT WE CONSIDER SEPARATING THAT.
SO WHAT DO WE DO? WELL I IF YOU'LL KIND OF LOOK THROUGH THE MARKED UP VERSION AND SEE IF YOU AGREE OR DISAGREE WITH THE, WITH THE FORMAT THAT I'M GOING WITH AND THE WAY THAT WE'RE GONNA GO ABOUT THIS.
UM, SEE IF YOU AGREE OR DISAGREE WITH USING SOME OF THE TAX EXAMPLES.
AND IF, IF YES OR NO, THEN LET ME KNOW.
AND, AND THEN I GUESS WE SHOULD MEET AGAIN AFTER I TALK TO THE ATTORNEYS ABOUT SOME OF THE OTHER ONES.
WE KIND OF HAVE A, AFTER I TALKED TO THEM ABOUT SOME OF THEM MAYBE HAVE AN UPDATE, AN UPDATED MEETING.
OKAY, WELL WE, WE CAN DO THAT.
AND THERE'S NOT A PARTICULAR, I MEAN WE NEED TO DO IT AS WE CAN, BUT THERE'S NOT SOMETHING WE CAN NOW, THERE'S SOME THINGS THAT DO NEED TO BE CHANGED PRETTY QUICK.
UM, I MEAN JUST BECAUSE WE'VE HAD ISSUES COME UP, LIKE THE PAYROLL ISSUES, UM, THE UM, OUR PAY PERIOD IS WON IN THE HANDBOOK.
SO THERE ARE SOME THINGS AND THEN WITH THE BENEFIT RENEWAL COMING UP, YOU KNOW, WE MIGHT WANNA WAIT OFF LONGER BENEFITS STUFF TO UPDATE THAT WHEN THE BENEFITS ARE ACTUALLY RENEWED.
SO YES, THOSE ARE SOME THINGS WE MIGHT CONSIDER.
THE THINGS HAVE TO BE CHANGED NOW AND THEN LOOKING AT IT IN A, THE OVERALL PICTURE LATER.
BUT LOOKING AT SOME OF THE MORE, MORE PERTINENT ISSUES NOW AND MAYBE THAT WOULD BE, I COULD EMPHASIZE THOSE IN THE LIST AS FAR AS WORKING THROUGH THE PROCESS.
I, I THINK THE PART WHERE YOU, YOU MENTIONED ABOUT EMPLOYEE BENEFITS ON PAGE 29 OVER SOMETHING, EMPLOYEE BENEFITS AGAIN THAT IT'S ALL IT IS, IT'S ALL OVER THE PLACE.
AND RETIREMENT
YOU HAVE RULES IN DIFFERENT IN THE FRONT END, THE BACK END, BUT THERE REALLY OUGHT TO BE SECTION TOGETHER AND I KIND OF MADE NOTES TO THAT EFFECT.
I THINK WHAT WOULD BE, UH, HELPFUL AS FAR AS TRYING TO REVIEW THIS THING PRETTY THE UH, EMAIL COPY YOU SENT THAT WE CAN PRINT ON MM-HMM.
UH, COLOR WOULD MAKE IT EASIER.
I, YEAH, I DIDN'T, I DIDN'T HAVE THE CAPABILITY TO PRINT EVERYONE IN COLOR SO I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT.
SO I THOUGHT THAT WOULD BE THE BEST WAY TO DO THIS TODAY WAS JUST KIND OF GO THROUGH IT REAL QUICK.
I SUGGESTION WOULD BE, AND ACCORDING TO Y'ALL JOIN IN, IS GO AHEAD AND SEND THAT TO US AND THEN UH, WE'LL TRY TO GET EVERYBODY LOOKING OVER AS SOON AS WE CAN AND THEN COME BACK LATER ON AND THE THINGS THAT WE ACTUALLY MAKE ADJUST IN, WE CAN GO AHEAD AND DO NOW.
MAKE A CONSIDERATION FOR THOSE OR MAYBE NEXT
OR SOMETIME I THINK COURT, THE ENTIRE MANUAL MAY TAKE A LITTLE LONGER.
BECAUSE I KNOW THAT ATTORNEY DON'T HAVE TIME TO, WELL THE ONLY THING I'D LIKE, I DON'T KNOW WHERE WE'RE GONNA DO THIS.
I WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS SOME THINGS LIKE ON THE HOLIDAY TIME, THE SPECIFIC HOLIDAYS, EIGHT HOURS, BUT WE HAVE PEOPLE THAT WORK 12 HOUR SHIFTS, 10 HOUR SHIFTS AND THOSE ARE THEIR DAYS.
I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE SOME DISCUSSION, I DUNNO WHERE THAT IS, BUT WE NEED TO DO THAT TO CHANGE IT TO WHERE WE ADDRESS THE EIGHT HOUR DAY HOLIDAY OR EIGHT HOUR EMPLOYEE A DAY, THE 10 HOUR EMPLOYEE A DAY, THEIR DAY IS 10 HOURS, THAT'S A HOLIDAY.
AND THE 12 HOUR THAT, THAT'S THEIR HOLIDAY, THAT'S THEIR TIME.
YOU KNOW, AND, AND I JUST THINK
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THEY WE'RE ANTIQUATED BEING STUCK IN THAT BOX.AND WE TALK ABOUT LOSING PEOPLE BECAUSE WE DON'T PAY ENOUGH.
THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT SPECIFICALLY, WE HAVE SO MUCH TURNOVER THERE, BUT IT'S THE LITTLE THINGS THAT WE CAN DO FOR OUR EMPLOYEES TO MAKE IT.
SO, I MEAN THINGS LIKE THAT, HOW ARE WE GONNA ADDRESS TRYING TO GET THOSE DISCUSSED, YOU KNOW, TRY TO CHANGE POLICY DOWNWARDS.
SO, BUT YOU KNOW, I JUST THINK THAT THERE'S OTHER THINGS WE CAN DO FOR OUR PEOPLE TO HELP RETAIN OUR PEOPLE.
I MEAN, JUST LITTLE THINGS SIGNIFICANT, RIGHT? BECAUSE RIGHT NOW, YOU KNOW, SAY MY EMPLOYEE WORKS 10 HOUR DAYS, BUT THEY WORK, GET EIGHT HOURS OF HOLIDAY, WE HAVE TO BURN TWO HOURS OF COMP TIME, VACATION TIME OR SOMETHING ELSE.
AND THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT HAS TO TURN FORWARD.
ENVIRONMENTAL OFFICERS DO THE SAME THING.
YOU, I MEAN WE JUST NEED TO ADDRESS WELL THE DIFFERENT SCHEDULES WE HAVE WITHIN, WITHIN THE COUNTY.
I KNOW CITIES DO THE SAME THING.
WE HAVE THE FIREFIGHTERS AND POLICE AND THE CITY EMPLOYEES AND THEY WERE ALL TREATED FAIRLY.
YOU KNOW, SO I MEAN THERE'S LITTLE THINGS WE CAN DO FOR OUR PEOPLE THAT WILL BE ADDRESSED THROUGH THIS.
SOME POLICY CHANGES THAT ARE, AND IF YOU, WHILE YOU'RE LOOKING AT THIS, AND I KNOW IT'S A LOT, BUT WHILE YOU'RE LOOKING IT, YOU'LL LOOK, IF YOU HAVE SOMETHING PARTICULAR YOU WANT ME TO RESEARCH OR DO SOME MORE WORK ON, SEE IF WE CAN IMPROVE IT OR MAKE IT BETTER, JUST SHOOT ME AN EMAIL OR A NOTE AND THAT'LL KEEP ME KIND OF ORGANIZED WITH THIS.
AND I DO THINK WHAT COMMISSIONER HUNT SAID IS SOMETHING WE DO NEED TO PROBABLY LOOK AT SOONER THAN LATER.
IT'S JUST HOW WE GO ABOUT TRYING TO RECTIFY THAT.
AND UH, I DUNNO, YOU KNOW, WHAT, HOW LONG THAT WOULD BE OR HOW THAT I'VE TALKED TO, I'VE TALKED TO, I THINK THEIR SUGGESTION WAS, UH, THE PEOPLE THAT WORK 10 HOUR DAYS, UH, A WEEK THAT WE HAVE A HOLIDAY, THAT THEY WORK EIGHT HOURS DAYS.
IF YOU GO THE POLICY DECISION, YOU HAVE TO BE HERE THE DAY BEFORE AND THERE'S WAYS STICK TO THEM THAT WITH THE POLICY, THAT ONE TOO.
BUT MY PEOPLE IN PARTICULAR, NOT MY PEOPLE BECAUSE I UNDERSTAND THEY'RE TRYING TO RAISE THOSE FAMILIES AND TWO DAYS THEY'RE OFF FRIDAY, SATURDAY THEY WORK PART-TIME JOBS TO SUPPLEMENT.
SO I MEAN, WHENEVER WE START DOING THAT TYPE STUFF, WE IMPACT THEM FINANCIALLY.
WHEN YOU, WHEN THEY SAY THE DAY BEFORE, THE DAY AFTER, THEY MEAN THE, THE WORK MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY.
BUT YOU KNOW, IT'S, UH, OH, JUST THE MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY.
YEAH, IT'S NOT, SO THE HOLIDAYS ARE FRIDAY.
IT'S THE THURSDAY BEFORE AND THE MONDAY AFTERWARDS.
WHATEVER THEIR SCHEDULED WORK DAYS ARE.
SO IF IT'S A MONDAY HOLIDAY, YOU'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT THEY CALL IN SIT ON FRIDAY'S NOT GONNA IMPACT THAT.
IF IT'S A MONDAY HOLIDAY AND THEY TAKE OFF ON FRIDAY, AS LONG AS THEY HAVE A DOCTOR'S NOTE, THEY GET PAID FOR THE HOLIDAY.
BUT IF IT'S A MONDAY HOLIDAY, THEY HAVE TO BE HERE FRIDAY.
YOU KNOW, JUST, I JUST THINK, YOU KNOW, YOU START MORPHING THINGS.
WHEN YOU MAKE A STATEMENT IN THE POLICY, A HOLIDAY CAN BE EIGHT HOURS.
THE DAY WORK EIGHT HOUR DAYS, IT CAN BE 10 HOURS OVER 10 HOUR DAYS IT BE 12, 12 5.
WELL, THAT, AND I THINK WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS A LITTLE BIT AND I'VE TALKED TO TACT AND I'VE TALKED TO, TO UH, KAREN A. LITTLE BIT ABOUT THIS.
IT, IT KIND OF GETS THE, THE WATERS GETTING MUDDY WHEN YOU START LOOKING AT THAT FROM THEN SOME PEOPLE GET A 10 HOUR BENEFIT, SOME PEOPLE GET AN EIGHT HOUR BENEFIT AND THEY WORK A 10 HOUR DAY.
ACTUALLY, THE 10 HOUR A DAY PEOPLE ACTUALLY WORK MORE HOURS IN A YEAR THAN THE EIGHT HOURS BECAUSE THEY WORKING A 40 HOUR WEEK WHEN EVERYBODY ELSE IS WORKING A 32 HOUR WEEK AND GETTING EIGHT HOURS HOLIDAY.
WELL, AND WE, WE JUST PROBABLY NEED TO HAMMER THAT OUT SOME IN, IN A SEPARATE, IT'S KIND OF, IT'S KIND OF A CON YOU KNOW.
SO IT JUST NEEDS TO BE SOME RESEARCH DONE ON IT.
FIND OUT WHAT SOME COUNTIES DO BECAUSE YOU HAVE PEOPLE THAT WORK MONDAY THROUGH THURSDAY, 10 HOURS DAY, THEIR 20 WEEKEND, AND YOU HAVE OTHER PEOPLE THAT WORK FIVE, EIGHT HOUR DAYS.
SO WE YOU HAVE THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT THAT WORKS DIFFERENT SHIFTS.
I JUST DON'T NEED TO CHANGE THAT.
LOOK OUTSIDE THE BOX INSTEAD OF JUST STAYING FOCUSED ON, AND LOOK, WE NEED TO, WE CAN DO MORE, WE CAN GET MORE BENEFITS THAN WHAT'S REQUIRED.
WE NEED TO LOOK AT, AND WE CAN DO MORE FOR OUR PEOPLE.
WE NEED TO LOOK AT SOME OF THE PAYDAY LAWS AND THE, THERE'S, THERE'S, THERE'S SOME LEGAL RAMIFICATIONS AT RIGHT.
I WAS SURPRISED TACT WOULD HAVE MORE, UH, INFORMATION TO GET FROM.
WELL, BASICALLY WHAT TACT TOLD ME WAS THAT YOU CAN DO THAT.
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THE PHONE.IF YOU CAN GET COMMISSIONER'S COURT TO APPROVE THAT, WHICH MEANS YOU WOULD HAVE TO GET A FORM AND JUST UNDERSTAND, I THINK EVERYBODY IN THE ROOM UNDERSTANDS THAT.
AND YOU JUST SAID WE CAN DO THAT.
YES, YOU CAN, BUT WE HAVE TO VOTE ON THE, ALL I'M ASKING IS THAT WE HAVE DISCUSSION ABOUT THE POLICY.
I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO VOTE UNTIL A LOT OF
WE JUST CHANGE OUR POLICY, MAKE SURE THAT IT'S FAIR AND LEGAL.
YOU CAN TWIST IT ANY WAY YOU WANT.
IT COST ALL EMPLOYEE THE COUNTY.
INSTEAD OF JUST EVERYBODY DOING ONE ONE.
OKAY, WELL THAT'S SOMETHING WE NEED TO TRY TO FIX OR REPAIR OR MITIGATE SOMEHOW MAKE IT, UH, PERHAPS BETTER THAN WHAT IT IS.
BUT IT'S AN ISSUE THAT, UM, THAT WE HAVE TO LOOK AT.
BUT WHAT YOU HAVE TO BE CAREFUL ABOUT IS IF YOU HAVE SOME ROAD BRIDGE PEOPLE THAT WORK 10 HOURS FOUR DAYS A WEEK, AND THEN OTHERS THAT WORK EIGHT HOURS FIVE DAYS A WEEK, UM, IF YOU GIVE, LIKE IF THERE'S A HOLIDAY ON FRIDAY UPON, SO IT'S EIGHT HOURS THAT THE, THE FIVE DAY A WEEK PEOPLE GET FOR THAT HOLIDAY.
AND SO THE 10 HOUR PEOPLE THAT WORK FOUR DAYS A WEEK, THEY REALLY DON'T GET THAT HOLIDAY.
SO WHAT I BELIEVE TACK EXPLAINED TO, TO WARD WAS THAT ON THE THURSDAY THEY WOULD WORK TWO HOURS AND THEY WOULD HAVE THE REST OF THE EIGHT HOURS HOLIDAY BECAUSE, AND THERE'S SEVERAL WAYS TO LOOK AT THAT ABOUT, OKAY, I'M JUST GONNA STOP THEN BECAUSE I THINK IT'S SOMETHING WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TWO, THAT'S ANOTHER I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT WE'RE, SO I APOLOGIZE, BUT WE HAVE TO ADDRESS LATER.
THEIR ADVICE WAS BASICALLY THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU'VE GOT THE BENEFIT OF EVERYBODY ELSE THAT KIND OF GETS EIGHT HOURS AND THEN YOU WOULD HAVE THESE PEOPLE WHO GET 10 HOURS PLUS A THREE DAY WEEKEND, WHICH YOU WOULD HAVE TO GET BUYIN FROM THE OTHER COMMISSIONERS IF YOU WANTED.
YOU COULD DO IT IF YOU WANTED TO GET BUYIN FROM THE OTHER COMMISSIONERS AND APPROVE EXTRA TWO HOURS WHEN THEY TAKE OFF ON A MONEY.
SO THEY, THEY GET EIGHT HOURS HOLIDAY AND THEN THEY HAVE TO USE TWO OTHER HOURS TO GET THE 10 HOURS.
SO THAT'S ALL I'M ASKING IS THAT WE HAVE A 10 HOUR, BUT THE OTHER PEOPLE IN THE COUNTY HAVE TO WORK 32 HOURS.
AND OUR GUYS ARE WORKING, WE'RE NOT DO THIS.
BUT IT'S SOMETHING WE DON'T NEED.
I WANT SOME AVENUE FOR THIS TO BE, THAT'S WHY I BROUGHT IT UP.
YOU TELL ME HOW THIS THROUGH THE SYSTEM, IF YOU DO IT 10 HOUR DAY, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO WORK FOR SALARY BENEFITS TOO.
SO WE KEEP THAT IN MIND TO MAKE IT FAIR.
NEXT, UH, ALLEN WANTED TO DISCUSS HAVING A BATTLE WITH HENDERSON COUNTY ON THE BOUNDARY LINE SUBJECT INHERITED.
DO WE HAVE SOMEONE HERE? OKAY.
HAVE YOU SEEN THE MAP? YES, SIR.
YOU CAN SEE AND TALKED ABOUT KAREN AND REBECCA ABOUT THIS.
I BELIEVE DEFINITELY YOU CAN SEE THE, WHERE SOME OF HARRISON COUNTY PROPERTY IS ACTUALLY IN KAMAN COUNTY, THE, SOME OF
AND SO IT'S AN ISSUE THAT WE NEED TO RESOLVE.
YOU KNOW, WE JUST HAD TO PUT AB HIS OTHER ROAD BACK ON THE ROAD REPORT BECAUSE WERE THAT FAULT.
AND SOMETIME THEY WERE SUPPOSED IN COUNTY, THEY, SO IT'S JUST NEEDS TO BE CLEANED UP.
I LIKE WHERE WE PICK UP SOME OF THESE, UH, FRONT LOTS ON THE LIGHT WHERE WE HAVE ANOTHER DEVELOPMENT NOT HEAD.
SO WHAT I DON'T KNOW HOW TO RESOLVE, IT'S THE ISSUE.
THE APPRAISAL DISTRICT, OF COURSE I JUST, UH, STARTED WORKING THERE LAST YEAR AS GIS MANAGER THERE.
BUT, UH, I THINK YEARS AGO, UH, CHRIS WAS INFORMING ME THAT OUR GIS MANAGER AT THE TIME, UM, 2010, SOMEONE THAT WENT TO THE HENDERSON COUNTY APPRAISER IS CHIEF APPRAISER AND SAID, LET'S RESOLVE THIS.
LET'S, LET'S, UH, SET THE COUNTY LINE THE WAY IT SHOULD BE AND THE WAY IT IS PRETTY MUCH IN THE STATE TEXAS.
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AND, UH, THEY WEREN'T, I GUESS COOPERATING WITH IT.SO WE'RE KIND OF JUST, YOU KNOW, ONE WAYSIDE AND THEY JUST KIND OF CONTINUED ON WITH WHAT WE WERE DOING.
UH, ME PERSONALLY, I THINK SHOULD BE CORRECT.
UH, IT SHOULD BE STRAIGHTENED OUT THE WAY, IT'S THE STATE OF TEXAS SHELTER, SO IT'S GONNA AFFECT SOME PROPERTY OWNERS AS FAR AS SWITCHING, UH, COUNTIES, UH, STUFF LIKE THAT.
BUT, AND AS FAR AS VALUE LOSING SOME ON THE COUNTY PRECINCT, I THINK IT SHOULD BE STRAIGHTENED OUT.
HOW DO WE DO THAT? WHAT, SO WHAT, WHAT WE'VE DONE, REBECCA'S DONE A LOT OF RESEARCH ON THIS, AND WE HAVE CONVERSATE.
SO FROM A STATUTORY STANDPOINT FORM, IF THERE'S A DISPUTE BETWEEN A COUNTY BOUNDARY IN TWO COUNTIES, YOU CAN BRING A SUIT IN ONE OF THE COUNTY COURTS AT LAW AND HAVE THAT COUNTY THAT JUDGE, UM, BASICALLY LET, IT WOULD BE LIKE KAUFMAN COUNTY SUING HENDERSON COUNTY, AND THEN THE COUNTY JUDGE WOULD APPOINT A SURVEYOR.
HE DID NOTICE HENDERSON COUNTY WOULD ALSO HAVE A SURVEYOR, AND THE SURVEYOR WOULD, WOULD BASICALLY WORK ON DETERMINING THE ACTUAL, THE COUNTY BOUNDARY LINE IF IT'S IN DISPUTE.
SO, UM, AND THEN BASICALLY IF THERE'S A DISPUTE FROM, FROM THE, UM, FROM WHAT THE SURVEYORS COME UP WITH, THEN THE, UM, TEXAS LET THE GENERAL LAND OFFICE COMMISSIONER WOULD, WOULD RESOLVE THAT DISPUTE DISPUTE.
SO THE OTHER WAY THAT YOU CAN ALSO DO IS INSTEAD OF SUING EACH OTHER, AND WE SPEND A LOT OF TIME TODAY ON THE PHONE WITH THE, UM, GENERAL LAND OFFICE, THE OTHER WAY YOU CAN DO IT IS IF THERE'S A DISPUTE IS THE COUNTIES CAN JUST WORK TOGETHER.
HENDERSON COUNTY AND KAUFFMAN COUNTY CAN BOTH GET A SURVEYOR THAT WORKS TOGETHER TO DETERMINE WHAT THE BOUNDARY IS.
NOW WHAT YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT IS WHAT THE ORIGINAL BOUNDARY WAS IN THE COUNTY BECAUSE YOU JUST CAN'T LIKE, KIND OF WILLY-NILLY CHANGE COUNTY BOUNDARIES BECAUSE THAT WOULD NEVER, YOU KNOW, THAT WOULD NEVER GET RESOLVED.
SO THE RECORDS OF THE COUNTY LAND OFFICE DOES HAVE, THEY HAVE, THEY HAVE AN INCREDIBLE MAPPING SYSTEM.
AND SO WHAT THEY HAVE IS WE, WE PRINTED OFF THE, UM, SURVEY OR THE, THE FIELD NOTES.
SOME OF THE MAPS, BASICALLY IT'S SURVEYORS FIELD NOTES FROM 1890 FROM THE, UM, HENDERSON COUNTY, KAUFFMAN COUNTY ONE OR, OR MAP, REMEMBER IT DOES NOT, I MEAN, THEY'RE HISTORICAL DOCUMENTS, BUT THEY ARE FILED WITH THE HENDERSON COUNTY COURT CLERK.
SO THAT WOULD BE REALLY, THIS WOULD BE THE STARTING GROUND TO GET SURVEYORS TO GO BACK AND LOOK AT THESE ORIGINAL DOCUMENTS, THESE ORIGINAL MEETS WE FOUND IN FIELD NOTES AND TRY TO DETERMINE WHAT THE ORIGINAL BOUNDARY WAS THAT WAS ESTABLISHED.
AND THEN IF WE CAN'T DETERMINE IT, WE JUST HAVE TO TRY TO DO THE BEST WE COULD WITH THE SURVEYORS AND HOPEFULLY THE, THE COUNTIES COME TO SOME AGREEMENT THAT THE COUNTY'S A AGREE AND THOSE COULD BE FILED IN COUNTY CLERK'S OFFICE AND A CERTIFIED COPY SENT TO THE GENERAL LAND OFFICE.
SO THEY WOULD HAVE THAT ON RECORD AS THE BOUNDARY BETWEEN ANDERSON AND CALL ME.
SO HAVE YOU TALKED TO THE COMMISSIONER? I HAVE NOT.
SO, BUT I TALKED TO THE COUNTY ATTORNEY AND IS ACTUALLY HERE TODAY.
SO I INVITED HIM TO COME WITH US AND WE TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT, OH, SOME OF THE PRACTICAL CONSIDERATIONS YOU GUYS MIGHT WANT TO LOOK AT.
AND ONE OF THOSE WAS HAVE, I DON'T HAVE GAVE A, THAT I I NOT SEEN A COPY OF.
UM, BUTLIN BROUGHT UP A REALLY GOOD PRACTICAL CONSIDERATION AND THAT IS WHAT TYPE OF APPRAISAL VALUE ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THAT WOULD ACTUALLY SWITCH.
AND SO CHRIS, YOU PROBABLY RAN MOST OF THE REPORTS FOR US.
AND SO, BUT I, I TALKED TO CHRIS A LITTLE BIT ABOUT IT AND THE, UM, AMOUNT WAS A LOT MORE THAN THAT.
I KIND OF THOUGHT IT WAS GOING TO BE, AND SO PRACTICALLY SPEAKING, YOU'RE DEALING WITH A LOT OF THE VALUE IN THAT AREA.
AND SO WE, WE WOULD WANT TO KNOW EXACTLY HOW MANY ARE SWITCHING ON WHICH SIDE, BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH THAT'S GONNA IMPACT YOUR BUDGET ULTIMATELY.
SO YOU, YOU PROBABLY HAVE A LOT MORE INSIGHT ON IT THAN I, YOU KNOW, WE, I RAN A PROJECTED LINE, UH, BUFFER FOR THAT WHOLE AREA AND PRETTY MUCH CAME UP WITH ALL THE OKAY.
THAT, AND THAT'S HOW WE, WHAT'S, WHAT'S THE PROJECTED
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LINE BASED OFF OF THAT IS, UH, WELL, YOU KNOW, OF COURSE I DON'T KNOW HOW THEY ORIGINATED THAT COUNTY LINE WAS SET UP WITH THE PREVIOUS, BUT I HAVE A A, I GUESS A PROJECTION ON WHAT IT'S GONNA LOOK LIKE.IF WE, BECAUSE I WAS CURIOUS WHAT TYPE OF MAPPING, UH, SOFTWARE DATA THAT YOU GUYS USE COMPARED TO WHAT THE COUNTY USES OR
SO AS FAR AS LIKE THE DESCRIP DESCRIPTIONS THAT THEY, THAT THE, UH, THAT ARE ACTUALLY RECORDED, THE ORIGINAL NEEDS AND AMOUNTS FOR THE COUNTY LINES, WE CAN SKETCH THOSE OUT ON THE GIS AND KIND OF SET IT WHERE APPROXIMATE LOCATION, WHERE IT, IT WOULD BE, UH, THIS IS THE, UH, FROM ALL THE ROAD, RIGHT? THIS IS THE, THE LINE THAT WE'RE ACTUALLY SHOWING RIGHT NOW.
THIS RED LINE ON THIS DASH, UH, BLACK IS PROJECTED COUNTY LINE YOU JUST STRAIGHT ACROSS.
BECAUSE IT'S, UH, THAT'S, I THINK THAT'S THE WAY IT GROW.
I DON'T KNOW HOW ORIGINALLY THIS CAME ABOUT, UH, BUT YOU KNOW, AND THERE'S, AND WE HAVE THE SAME ISSUE WITH ROCK WALL COUNTY ON THAT.
SO, YOU KNOW, AND IT'S KIND OF JUST, YOU KNOW, BEEN SET ASIDE, JUST STAY THE WAY IT'S, SAY SOMEBODY ELSE WORRY ABOUT IT, PRETTY MUCH WE PICK UP VALUE IN COUNTY LOSING HOW DOES THIS FEES AND THAT INTO OUR ALREADY, RIGHT.
BUT THIS IS A LIST OF THE ACCOUNTS.
SO HOW MUCH MONEY AROUND, HOW MUCH VALUE? I DIDN'T GET A TOTAL, DID CHRIS, HE GAVE ME TOTAL CLOSE TO 5 MILLION THAT WE WOULD LOSE THAT ARE IT'S JEOPARDY GRAY AREA.
WELL, BECAUSE, WELL, BECAUSE THE, UH, LOSE IT JUST LOSING RIGHT NOW AND THEN SOME OF THE PROPERTIES ARE GONNA END UP HAVING TWO ACCOUNTS.
SO LIKE THIS, WE'RE GONNA, THEY'RE GONNA END UP HAVING TWO ACCOUNTS.
BUT IF IT HELPS YOU ANY, THERE'S THIS ANCIENT COMMISSIONER COURT RESOLUTION FROM 93 THAT BASICALLY SAYS HENDERSON COUNTY IS SUPPOSED TO MAINTAIN COUNTY LINE ROAD, BUT I'M NOT EXACTLY SURE THE, THE ALLEY OF THAT DOCUMENT, HENDERSON COUNTY THIS AND THANKS FOR MAKING THE TRIP DOWN.
AND I KNOW FROM, FROM MY SHORT HISTORY OF NINE YEARS WITH THE COUNTY, IT'S GOING BACK AND FORTH AND THERE'S ALWAYS BEEN DISCUSSION AS FAR AS THE ROAD MAINTENANCE.
I'VE NEVER HEARD OF THE DISCUSSION ABOUT THE APPRAISED VALUE AND THE TAX RAMIFICATIONS.
IT'S ALWAYS BEEN A DISCUSSION ABOUT WHO'S GOING TO MAINTAIN THE ROADS.
I BELIEVE THAT RIGHT NOW THAT WHAT THEY'VE KIND OF DONE IS SPLIT THAT ROAD WHERE YOU GO DOWN, WE DO THE MAJORITY, BUT LITTLE BIT AT THE VERY END.
UM, I THINK TOO, AS REBECCA MENTIONED IS, YOU KNOW, PART OF THE PRACTICAL CONSIDERATION IS, IS IS NOT JUST WHICH COUNTY IS GOING TO NET AND WHICH COUNTY IS GOING TO LOSE.
OBVIOUSLY IT WOULD BE EASY FOR ME TO STAND HERE AND SAY, HEY, AS LONG AS WE'RE NETTING THE 5 MILLION, I'M SURE MY COMMISSIONERS WILL BE ALL FOR THAT.
BUT THE PRACTICAL CONSIDERATION TOO IS WE BOTH HAVE CONSTITUENTS THAT LIVE OUT THERE AND, YOU KNOW, TYPICAL THAT TAKE, YOU'RE THE COMMISSIONER IN THAT PRECINCT IS, YOU KNOW, THAT'S GONNA BE A CONCERN OF YOURS AS WHETHER AS COMMISSIONER HAYES WHO IS BRAND NEW AND OUR PRECINCT ON THE, UH, THE OTHER SIDE AS TO, YOU KNOW, ALL OF A SUDDEN IT'S A BIG CHANGE FOR THOSE PEOPLE AS TO, AND NOW YOU'RE SWITCHING, UH, ESSENTIALLY WHICH COUNTY THEY BELIEVE THEY, THEY, UH, THEY LIVE IN.
I DUNNO HOW THAT'S GONNA BE RECEIVED.
UH, BUT I THINK IT'S A BIGGER DEAL THAN JUST GONNA COME OUT AHEAD ON THE RIGHT SIDE, TAKE THOSE PEOPLE INTO CONSIDERATION.
YEAH, AND OF COURSE THE OTHER THING, OUR, OUR TOTAL VALUE IS GONNA BE SOMEWHERE OVER $7 BILLION.
SO WHEN YOU PUT 5 MILLION IN, I MEAN, IT'S REALLY A, IT'S MONEY, BUT IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT A DEAL KILLER.
I DON'T THINK I PERSONALLY THINK WE SHOULD ERR ON WHAT'S MAKING IT LEGAL.
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I MEAN, DOING WHAT WE NEED TO DO TO MAKE IT CORRECT.AND, UH, I MEAN THAT'S WHAT WE SHOULD UPHOLD.
THAT IF WHAT WE'RE DOING IS NOT RIGHT, I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD CONTINUE THAT JUST BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN TO IT THAT WAY.
AND, AND YOU GUYS PROBABLY KNOW, I MEAN, THERE'S ONLY ONE OF OUR COMMISSIONERS THAT EVEN THOUGH I'M OVER HERE TODAY, UM, AND SO I HAVE NO AUTHORITY WHATSOEVER SPEAK ON BEHALF OF THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT.
BUT I, BUT AGAIN, I, I WOULD COMFORTABLE SAYING MOVED YOU UP.
NO, I FEEL COMFORTABLE SAYING THAT, THAT THAT WE, WE WOULD WANT AND SHOULD WANT THE SAME.
WHAT IS RIGHT IN THIS SITUATION, UH, WE CERTAINLY DON'T WANT TO, THE ROUTE OF LITIGATION, WHEN I LOOK AT THE CODE AND, AND CORRECT ME, IT, IT, WHEN I LOOKED AT IT AS FAR AS THE LITIGATION, IT ACTUALLY HAD TO BE FILED IN THE DISTRICT COURT CLOSEST TO WHERE THE DISPUTE IS, WHICH I BELIEVE THE COUNTY SEAT FOR THAT WOULD BE ZA COUNTY.
SO IF IT WERE TO GO TO LITIGATION, I THINK ANY LITIGATION BETWEEN THE TWO COUNTIES WOULD HAVE TO BE FILED IN ZA COUNTY DISTRICT COURT.
UH, AND AGAIN, I FEEL COMFORTABLE SAYING WE DON'T WANT IT TO GO THAT FAR EITHER.
UH, I'VE NOT EVEN HAD A CHANCE TO GET WITH OUR APPRAISAL DISTRICT.
I DON'T MIND WHO YOUR CONTACT IS OVER THERE, BUT I CAN GO TO EITHER THE CHIEF APPRAISER OR WHOEVER HE TELLS ME, I DON'T MIND DOING SOME OF THAT LEG WORK AND RESEARCH ON THAT SIDE TO, TO SEE IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE SAME THING, DIFFERENT THINGS.
UM, JUDGE SANDERS IS AWARE OF IT'S OR MAY NOT BE AWARE OF.
IT'S, I I DON'T EVEN THINK HE'S AWARE AS FAR AS TODAY.
NOW I GET SAYING HE MAY BE AWARE JUST HISTORICALLY I'M DEFENSE DISAGREE.
YOU PUT IT ON THE AGENDA AND I, I JUST CALLED MR. DAVIS YESTERDAY, HE WAS MORE THAN WELL, GO AHEAD, I'M SORRY.
NO, I WAS JUST GONNA SAY, AND THAT'S NOT, I MEAN I DON'T WANT YOU GUYS TO TAKE THAT WRONG.
I THINK SANDERS PROBABLY HAS GREAT FAITH IN ME.
AND SO THE COMMISSIONERS, AND I THINK THEY TRUST THAT, THAT IF I COME TO A MEETING SUCH AS THIS AND WE'RE GONNA DO FINDING TYPE THING TO SEE WHY IT IS WHERE IT IS AND HOW IT JUTS UP AND DOWN AND SURE DOESN'T SEEM TO IT FIXED NEED TO CHECK THE VOTING, UH, RECORDS FOR THAT AREA TOO AND MAKE SURE THAT IF SOMEONE'S PAYING HOFFMAN TAXES, IF THEY'RE VOTING IN KAUFMAN COUNTY, NOT COUNTY HAD THE SAME QUESTION, BASICALLY WHERE ARE THESE PEOPLE GO, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, AND THOSE ARE SOME OF THOSE PRACTICAL CONSIDERATIONS.
LET'S NOT JUST LOOK AT THE DOLLAR LINE AND, AND AND RUSH IN THERE.
THERE'S A LOT OF INVOLVE, YOU KNOW.
BUT FOR THE MOST PART, IF WE DO WHAT MAKE IT LEGAL, WE, I MEAN WE'RE JUST, THAT'S WHAT WE SHOULD DO.
SO DO WE HAVE CONSENSUS OR BRAND THAT, THAT WOULD BE KIND OF OUR WAY THAT WE WOULD LOOK AT IT.
WE SHOULD MAKE IT, UH, FOLLOW WHATEVER THE STATUTE SAYS OR WHATEVER THE CONSTITUTION SAYS ABOUT HOW THAT MAY AT THE END OF THE DAY, NOTHING.
YOU OKAY WITH THAT? I WAS, WELL, AND I THINK WE'VE PROVIDED YOU GUYS A LOT OF INFORMATION.
I CAN GET YOU THE REST, THE OLD RESOLUTION AND THE UM, THE OLD MEETS AND BOUNDS THAT KAREN GOT SENT OVER TODAY.
AND THEN YOU GUYS, IF YOU WANT TO ADD IT AS AN AGENDA ITEM AND THEN KIND OF VOTE AND DECIDE WHICH PATH YOU WANT TO TAKE, AND I CAN KIND OF GET YOU THE OPTIONS FOR IT.
I THINK THE NEUTRAL SURVEY WOULD PROBABLY BE THAT STEP.
BUT I DON'T WANT YOU GUYS TO RUSH ANYTHING BEFORE YOU HAVE ALL NO, WE DON'T, WE DON'T.
IT'S JUST A LOT OF INFORMATION.
PROBABLY WOULD BE NICE IF WE COULD GET IT DONE BEFORE THE TAX STATEMENTS AND EVERYTHING GO OUT THIS YEAR.
BUT THAT BEING SAID, THERE'S GOING TO HAVE TO BE SOME SORT OF COMMUNICATION TO THE PROPERTY.
I MEAN, ONLY THINGS WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT HERE.
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S WHETHER IT WILL AFFECT ANY OTHER BOUNDARIES OR NOT.
LIKE SCHOOL DISTRICT, UH, UH, WATER DISTRICT.
IT SHOULDN'T AFFECT THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS.
UH, KIM GOES, GOES YEAH DOWN INTO PASS COUNTY.
IT'S NOT GONNA ANYTHING BECAUSE IF THERE IS A SCORE JUST APPLY.
IF I AN EASE UP, WE WOULD, THEIR ACCOUNT SHOULD BE SPLIT UP AND THEY SHOULD.
HOW ABOUT THE COLLEGE, UH, DISTRICT THAT, UM, KNOW THEY HAVE, WHAT CHRIS TOLD ME WAS THAT, I GUESS IT WAS IN 2010, THERE WAS LEGISLATION PUT IN IN PLACE THAT PASSED THAT THE, THE CAD IS ONLY RESPONSIBLE FOR COUNTY LINE AND COUNTY LINE.
AND SO THAT MEANS THEY APPORTION THOSE DIFFERENT TYPES OF DISTRICTS THAT DON'T, YOU KNOW, THAT FLOW OVER DIFFERENT COUNTY LINES.
SO IF YOU TALK ABOUT MOVING THE COUNTY DISTRICT, THEN IT, IT'S NOT GONNA CHANGE THAT, THAT UM, SCHOOL DISTRICT LET'S SAY.
BUT IT WOULD CHANGE WHO IS COLLECTING, WHICH CAT IS COLLECTING FOR WHICH SIDE.
WELL DO YOU HAVE ANY NO, I WILL, UM, ANYBODY ELSE WANTS ONE, BUT I'LL AT LEAST MAKE SURE THAT HE'S GOT INFORMATION.
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HAY, A NEW COMMISSIONER.AND YOU ARE AS WELL, IS THAT CORRECT? THIRD YEAR.
SO, UH, BUT HE, WHEN I SAY NEW, HE WAS JUST CAME IN RIGHT IN JANUARY, SO, UH, WELL WE HIM, NO, I JUST WANT KAUFMAN COUNTY TO KNOW.
CONTACT ME IF THERE'S SOMETHING I CAN DO.
IF THERE'S SOMETHING I CAN DO WITH YOU AS FAR AS THE APPRAISAL DISTRICT, IF THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, I KNOW YOU SAID THEY'VE BEEN NON COOPERATIVE IN THE PAST.
IF THERE'S SOME AVENUE THERE, UM, THEN LET ME KNOW.
YOU HOWEVER I CAN ON, LET'S GO AHEAD AND GET IT.
AND EVEN THOUGH I WAS TELLING THE STATUTORY INSTRUCTION, THAT DIDN'T MEAN THAT WE HAD ANY INTENTION OF ASSUMING.
I DON'T WANNA GIVE THAT IMPRESSION AT ALL.
WE APPRECIATE YOU COMING OVER TODAY.
THAT'S ABLE, COMMISSIONER, YOU TALK ABOUT THE SINGLE CARRIER COUNTY, WHY YOU SAW THAT? WELL, WE'VE TALKED TO ALLISON AT THE CONFERENCE.
REBECCA DONE A LOT OF RESEARCH OVER THERE AND IS A WHOLE LOT OF WORK TO BE DONE, UH, ON THAT.
IT KIND OF TIED IN WITH THE, WITH THE ROAD VARIANCE.
YOU KNOW, WE TALKED ABOUT THIS WHEN, YOU KNOW, TWO YEARS AGO WE BROUGHT THIS UP, IT SOME, BUT ANYWAY, WE NORMALLY CAUSE LOT DAMAGE TO THE ROADS AND EVEN SAYS SOME OF THEM GET CARRY, THEY HAVE TAG OUT OVER POUNDS.
SOME OF THE ROADS HAVE TWO AND THREE DIFFERENT SERVICES EVERY WEEK UP AND DOWN, NOT COUNTING THE POP OPERATIONS, WHICH THEY DON'T DO ANY REALLY DAMAGE, YOU KNOW, THEY JUST PICK UP ONE.
IT'S THE BIG ONE REALLY EATING OUR ROAD UP.
AND SO I'VE CONTACTED T OF COURSE IT'S GO OUT AND TEST WHAT THE ROAD, IF THEY HAVE A PERMIT AND CAN GO THOUSAND POUNDS.
UH, BUT WE DO KNOW THAT SOME OF THEM ARE EXCEEDING THAT.
SO, UH, IT'S JUST AN ONGOING ISSUE THAT CONTINUES TO DETERIOR ROADS.
NOW YOU CAN GO THROUGH THE ONE SERVICE, BUT GETTING SOMEONE TO BID NEED TO BUY A PRECINCT WHO WANTS TO DO ALL MILES ROAD FOR VERY FEW PEOPLE IS AN ISSUE REASON.
I THOUGHT, WELL IF YOU COULD DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT, IT'S SOMETHING WE CAN LOOK INTO IT PROBES MORE.
UH, AND THEN AS FAR AS THE, THE SECOND ONE THERE ON THE, UH, CONS RESTRICTIONS, I THINK THAT'S, SO WE DO NEED TO TEST SOME OF OUR GO THROUGH THE COUNTY MAJORITY, UH, THOSE TESTED ON THE ROADS ON THE COUNTY, COUNTY, COUNTY ROAD.
AND IT DID YOU I I MAILED EVERYBODY OR I THINK HAD ANGIE OR ANNABELLE MAILED EVERYBODY, UH, WHERE ALLISON BASS? YES.
LIKE I SAY, EVEN HE SAYS IT'S A POSSIBILITY, BUT, BUT ENFORCEMENT, RIGHT? YEAH.
SO THE REASON ENFORCEMENT'S AN ISSUE IS BECAUSE IF YOU SET, YOU GO THROUGH THE PROCESS AND YOU TO SET THE ROAD WEIGHT LIMIT FOR ACCOUNTING ROAD, YOU'D HAVE TO ASK, SUBMIT TO TDOT, UM, INFORMATION, WHICH WILL BE AN ENGINEERING STUDY.
SO YOU GOTTA FACTOR IN THOSE EXPENSES AND YOU'RE DOING IT.
AND THEN IF THEY OKAY IT OR DON'T DENY IT WITHIN 30 DAYS AND YOU SET IT, YOU PUT UP YOUR SIGNS.
BUT THE EXCEPTION IT'S IN THE TRANSPORTATION CODE AND WHY IT'S NOT, NOT FULLY, IT DOESN'T FULLY DO ITS JOB IS BECAUSE THEY EXCLUDE ANYONE, ANY TRUCK THAT HAS OVERWEIGHT PERMIT.
SO EVEN IF YOU SET THE WEIGHT LIMIT, YOU'RE STILL GOING TO BE EXCLUDING ANY OF THOSE TECH STOCK TRUCKS TO YOUR REAL, THE ONLY WAY YOU CAN REALLY FORCE IT, JUST HAVE THE AMERICAN GUY WHO GETS THE GUY OVER THE OVERWEIGHT LIMIT.
WHICH WOULD BE END OF THE RUN OR OVER WITH PERMIT BEGINNING IT WOULD BE OVER WITH PERMITTED FOR.
BECAUSE THEY COULD BE OVER THE LIMIT FOR THAT.
BUT IT DOES ALSO HELP TDOT NAVIGATE AND PERMIT THEM FOR WHICH ROAD THEY CAN GO ON IF THEY HAVE ONE ON FILE
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THAT SAYS, YOU KNOW, WE CAN'T TRUCK SIGN, TRUCK SIGNS ON.SO WHAT DO YOU SUGGEST? WELL, I WOULD LIKE, IF I NEED TO GO FORWARD WITH IT TO SEE WHAT WE CAN DO AND SPEAK TO TECH STOCK TO SEE WHAT IT'S GOING TO COST TO SEE IF IT'S REALLY PRICE TO DO THIS OR YOU KNOW, WE JUST HIRE OTHER DEPUTIES TO HELP US TO ENFORCE THE WEIGHT.
WELL YOU KNOW, WE TALKED ABOUT ADDING AN ADDITIONAL, UH, COMMERCIAL VEHICLE WHITE, UH, VEHICLE OFFICER LAST YEAR.
AND UH, IN FACT I JUST, UH, JUST THIS MORNING, UH, BETWEEN WHERE WE WERE AGO, I UH, UH, SENT A, UH, A RESPONSE BACK TO THE LIEUTENANT FOR DPS IN THIS AREA ABOUT WHAT COULD THEY DO TO IMPROVE, YOU KNOW, THEIR SERVICES HERE OF COURSE WE'RE TROOPERS, BUT I DID SPECIFICALLY ASK, UH, FOR MORE COMMERCIAL VEHICLE OFFICERS BECAUSE THE AMOUNT OF TRUCK TRAFFIC THAT WE HAVE AND THAT, UH, PARTICULARLY AROUND THE PITS, YOU KNOW, THE PRESSING OPERATIONS AND STUFF LIKE THAT, WHETHER THAT GETS ANYWHERE WE KNOW, BUT WE KNOW WHAT WE CAN DO IF WE THE, WE CAN HAVE ADDITIONAL OFFICERS AND THAT PROBABLY SOMETHING WE NEED TO LOOK AT PRETTY CAREFULLY.
SO DO YOU WANNA DO THAT THEN JUST CHECK AND MOVE AND FOLLOW UP AND THEN, UH, LOOK AT THE PROS AND CONS NEXT TIME TO OKAY, WELL THAT'D BE GOOD.
ALRIGHT, SO, UH, WE WANT TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT, UH, CELL, WHAT'S OUR LIMIT? 75.
JUST, JUST THINKING OUT LOUD, WE PAY 75 A MONTH FOR ALLOWANCE.
A A I'M NOT SURE WHAT PLANS PEOPLE OWN AND HOW MUCH THEY'RE BUYING FOR DATA AND STUFF LIKE THAT, BUT A REGULAR CELL PHONE THAT YOU WOULD USE FOR THE COUNTY TO PAY FOR IT DOESN'T COST A 75 A MONTH.
SO A BUNCH OF TIMES COMING PEOPLE WON'T RAISE IT.
SO, OKAY, LET'S LOOK AT THIS FROM A REALISTIC STANDPOINT POINT.
YOU'RE NOT USING YOUR MY PERSONAL CELL PHONE, HUNDRED PERCENT OF COUNTY BUSINESS, MAJORITY OF IT'S PERSONAL BUSINESS.
SO ARE WE PAYING MORE THAN 50% OF WHAT COUNTY USE IS, OR WE PAYING HUNDRED WHAT COUNTY USE IS, THERE'S REALLY NO WAY TO MONITOR.
I DON'T WANT PEOPLE BRINGING IN THE BILLS.
THAT TO BE, THAT WOULD BE NOTHING.
I THINK NOT ONLY THAT, BUT I'M JUST THINKING 75 MIGHT BE DONE THAT YOU HEAR WHEN WE SET THAT.
I'M TRYING TO REMEMBER THE DISCUSSION WE HAD ABOUT THAT.
I THINK IT WAS KIND OF PATTERNED AFTER FOR WHAT OTHER COUNTIES WERE DOING.
UH, I THINK, I DON'T, I I MEAN I, I I BELIEVE THAT WE HAD QUITE A BIT OF A DISCUSSION ABOUT IT BECAUSE AT ONE TIME WE HAD MAN CELL PHONES, EVERYBODY HAD CELL PHONES AND SO WE DECIDED LIMIT THAT AND GO, WE PROVIDE, NOW THAT WE'VE GOT THE, UH, THE UH, FOLKS THAT USE THE RADIOS, YOU KNOW, CELL PHONE, TERRY OR WHOEVER OR SOMEBODY'S RADIO, RADIO FOR ALL HIS VEHICLES IN THE HAND TOO.
SO, UH, YOU KNOW, SO THEY CAN COMMUNICATE BACK AND FORTH.
BUT, UH, BUT THAT'S JUST THE ROAD BRIDGE CREWS.
THERE ARE OTHERS THAT DO, AND I DON'T EVEN KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE WE HAVE ON THE CELL PHONE ALLOWANCE.
YEAH, JUST, I MEAN YOU, THAT PART, THE BUDGET PROCESS, IT KIND GETS LOST IN THE SHUFFLE.
IS THAT SOMETHING MAYBE WE SHOULD TALK ABOUT DURING THE BUDGET PROCESS? MORE RESEARCH ON IT.
SO I'D TO KNOW HOW MUCH WE'RE PAYING FOR THAT.
YEAH, KAREN PROBABLY PROVIDE THAT PAR BETWEEN HR AND, AND, UH, THE AUDITOR'S OFFICE WE PROBABLY COME UP WITH.
I'D LIKE TO KNOW HOW HOW YOU CAN USE IT MORE FOR PRIVATE THAN BUSINESS BECAUSE I GET OUT.
YOU SHOULD NOT GIVE OUT YOUR NUMBER.
I PUT MYSELF OUT TO A PUBLIC SPOT.
WELL, BESIDES THAT, THEY WERE CALLING ME ON MY CELL PHONE NUMBER BEFORE I EVEN POSTED.
WELL, I GAVE, I GAVE, YEAH, I GAVE PEOPLE CALL ME YOUR NUMBER.
WELL LET'S LOOK AT THAT AND MAYBE WE CAN GET COUPLE INFORMATION AND IT MAY BE GOOD WHERE IT IS.
AND IT'S WORTH LOOKING AT THEN THE LAST ONE I BELIEVE IS THAT THE ONLY ONE YOU HAD LEFT? THAT'S IT.
ALRIGHT, SO WE'RE GONNA TAKE A BREAK HERE IN A SECOND, BUT LET'S TALK ABOUT, UH, COUNTY ROAD 1 42 BEFORE WE OKAY.
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1 42.UM, WHAT'S HAPPENED THEN, I GUESS THIS IS KIND OF SOMETHING THAT I'VE INHERITED AND UH, SO IT IS KIND OF AN ISSUE WE REALLY NEED TO TALK ABOUT.
UM, 1 42, THIS SECTION OF, UH, OAK RIDGE IS 1,685 FEET, I THINK IS WHAT IT'S ACTUALLY THE MAP SAYS SOMEWHERE CLOSE TO 17.
SO AT UH, UM, THAT POINT WAS, UH, CITY OF OAK RIDGE.
HE ANNEXED THAT PROPERTY ALONGSIDE THE ROAD.
LOOKING AT THE SURVEY, YOU CAN SEE ON THE MAP THE, THAT SECTION, THE PROPERTY LINE, THE, IT GOES RIGHT DOWN THE MIDDLE OF THE ROAD.
SO I, I I DON'T KNOW, THIS IS LIKE A NO MAN'S NAME.
IT DOESN'T BELONG TO OAK RIDGE ANYMORE.
AND IT'S NOT IN THE COUNTY ROAD SYSTEM.
IT'S 1,685 FEET IS PART OF A ROAD THAT IS A MAJOR THOROUGHFARE BETWEEN 27, 27, 27, 28.
SO WE HAVE A GOOD ROAD EXCEPT FOR THE LAST 1,685 FEET AND PEOPLE THAT YOU GET A GOOD SMOOTHER ROAD, THEY DRIVE IN TO DRIVE FASTER AND THEN THEY GET THE SHOCK TREATMENT OF RUNNING INTO POTHOLES.
SO, BUT BASICALLY IT'S BEEN THE ANNEXED AND IT'S NOT THE COUNTY ROAD SYSTEM, THE PROPERTY LINE DOWN THE MIDDLE, I DON'T KNOW IF IT BELONGS TO THE TWO PROPERTY OWNERS OR WHAT COUNTY HAS A RIGHT.
I FEEL LIKE THE COUNTY HAS A RIGHT RESPONSIBILITY TO TAKE US BACK IN AND BECAUSE IT'S A MAJOR THOROUGHFARE TIME, TWO FOREIGN, THE MARKET GOES TOGETHER AND IT'S USED DAILY BY A LOT OF PEOPLE.
SO IT SERVES A COUNTY PURPOSE OVERALL.
I ACTUALLY GONE OUT AND LOOKED AT THAT AREA AND I AGREE WITH WHAT YOU'RE SAYING AND IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE BEING LIKE IT'S NOW.
SO I I THERE'S A STORY BEHIND IT.
YEAH, YEAH, THERE IS, BUT I JUST DON'T WANNA GET INTO THE DRAMA STUFF.
BUT I DO HAVE ASSURANCES FROM THE RESIDENCE AND THEN THEY'RE HERE THAT LIVE THERE THAT SAW YEAH.
FACE BACK THERE THAT UH, UM, SHE'S ALWAYS CAUSING TROUBLE OF SOME SORT THAT OAK BREEZE CANNOT JUST COME BACK AND RE ANNEX THIS.
'CAUSE THAT WAS KIND OF A PROBLEM IN THE BACK OF MY HEAD TO SAY, YOU KNOW, WE REGULATE THAT OR NOT.
THEY HAVE TO REQUEST TO BE THE PROPERTY.
SO THEY SURE THAT THAT IS NOT THEIR INTENT.
YOU KNOW, THEY WANTED TO GET OUT SO THEY'RE OUT AND NOW I JUST WANT TO I AGREE IT'S NOT GOOD LIKE IT IS, I JUST, WHAT WE NEED TO DO TO FIX IT.
UH, YOU GUYS, IT'S JUST YOUR DECISION.
IF YOU WANT TO READ, ADOPT THAT INTO THE HOME ROAD MAINTENANCE SYSTEM, UH, COMMISSIONER HUNT, JUST PUT THAT AS AND TO PUT ON THE AGENDA ITEM, I JUST INCREASE THE LENGTH OF ONE MANY AND THAT'S BECAUSE RIGHT NOW I'VE PROBABLY CLASSIFIED AS A PUBLIC ROAD.
SO YOU HAVE A PRESCRIPTION FOR THE PUBLIC TO ACTUALLY TRAVEL THAT ROAD PRESCRIPTIONS.
AS COMPARED TO PRIVATE ROAD WHERE YOU HAVE TO ACTUALLY DEDICATE THAT RIGHT.
TO THE, TO THE COURT AND THEN ACCEPT IT LIKE WHEN WE DO SUBDIVISIONS AND THEY GET THE DEVELOPER DEDICATE THEM AND WE HAVE TO ACCEPT THEM.
WOULD Y'ALL HAVE THE PERMISSION WITH THAT? WE PUT IT ON? YES.
AND IT NEEDS TO BE FIXED AND IT'S A STORY BEHIND IT, BUT LET'S JUST GET IT FIXED AND MOVE ON THIS THING WE ABOUT.
ALRIGHT, LET'S TAKE ABOUT A 10 MINUTE BREAK AND IF ANY OF YOU WANT LOOK AT MACHINE, THE, AND MAYBE WE CAN GET JIMMY TO CHECK AND UH, I THINK THEY WANTED TO SEE THE, UH, DEMO OVER HERE.
GOT A CHANCE TO SET UP FOR A WHILE, BUT IT'S PRETTY, PRETTY INTERESTING THE WAY TECHNOLOGY HAS COME ALONG.
SO, UH, LET'S GO ALONG NOW AND UH, TO THE ANIMAL SHELTER UPDATE.
UH, I BELIEVE, TOMMY, ARE YOU HERE OR? I AM.
SO I'M SURE THAT MR. ALLEN WILL BE ABLE TO HELP US WITH OF THIS TWO.
WHAT AM I DOING? WELL, YOU'RE ABOUT TO SEE, FIRST OF ALL, I'M GONNA TO THIS LITTLE PACKAGE UP AND I WANT YOU TO LOOK AT THE NUMBER JUST AS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE, WHAT WE'VE ALREADY SPENT, WHAT WE'VE ALREADY SPENT, UM, THIS YEAR.
SO TOTAL COMBINED THIS YEAR WE'VE SPENT 76,310 ON OUR DOGS AND CATS WITH HENDERSON COUNTY, UM, AND THE CATS THAT WENT TO THE COFFEE.
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MM-HMMSO WITH THAT BEING SAID, I LOSING FIVE TO HIM.
GIVE HIM ANOTHER NOT CLAIM SITUATION.
SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT A SHELTER OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND THE LOCATION JUST SEEMS TO BE WHAT WE KEEP BEING HUNG UP ON.
UM, MR. ALLEN, WOULD YOU LIKE TO TALK ABOUT THE LOCATION YOU WANT ME TO SEE? I CAN, I CAN YOU Y'ALL KNOW WHERE THE SHO GROUND IS LOCATED? THE, FOR FARM, THE VERY FIRST DRIVEWAY, WHEN YOU TURN INTO THE LEFT, YOU GO TO THE SHO GROUND.
THE PROPERTY TO THE LEFT OF THAT WILL NOT AFFECT THE SHO GROUND WHATSOEVER.
NOT APPROACHING THE MIDDLE ALL.
UH, RIGHT NOW IT'S JUST WOODS.
THERE'S A CORN SHELLER, A TRACTOR AND A HAY BALER OUT THERE THAT YOU CAN'T REALLY SEE.
SEE? CORN SHELLER, UH, WE WALKED IT.
THERE'S A DRAW THAT CARRIES A LITTLE WATER.
NOT MUCH, BUT THAT COULD BE A CONCERN.
IS THAT THE ONE THAT COMES UNDER 30, UNDER 34? YES SIR.
UH, I THINK TDOT MIGHT BE WILLING TO HELP US ON THAT.
MAYBE NOT MUCH, BUT MAYBE THEY'LL YEAH.
BUT IT IS A PERFECT LOCATION, UH, ESPECIALLY IF WE MAKE THE DEAL WITH THE CITY WHERE WE CAN TIE IN THE SEWER, BOTH UNDER THE ROAD, WE CAN TIE IN THE, FOR FARM, THE ANIMAL ANIMAL SHELTER AND THE, UH, MEETING ROOM AT THE, UH, PROGRAM HALL PROCEEDING THROUGH AND GIVE AWAY FROM THE AEROBIC SYSTEM.
AND I KNOW THAT WE HAVE, UM, GUESTS FROM THIS LOCAL COMMISSION AND I WANT YOU TO, UM, I WANT TO SHOW YOU WHERE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AND THEN, UH, REASSURE YOU THAT WE WILL WANT TO BUILD SOMETHING THAT WILL, WILL, UM, NOT STAND OUT AND TAKE AWAY FROM THE FARM.
AND THAT WE, OUR GOAL WOULD BE TO BRING MORE PEOPLE TO THE FARM TO VISIT AND HOPEFULLY HELP BRING THE FARM BACK TO LIFE.
SHOULD HAVE BUILT THIS LAST WEEK.
'CAUSE SUNDAY SOMEBODY DROPPED A NINE WEEK OLD PUPPY IN MY BACKYARD.
SO, UM, IT, YES, IT, YOU KNOW WHERE THE DRAW IS, RIGHT? RIGHT.
WE'LL BE ON THE, THE WEST SIDE AND THE FARMER WILL BE ON THE EAST SIDE OF THAT DRAW.
THIS IS AN ENTRANCE UNTIL THE SHOW.
SO WE WON'T JUST DOWN IN HERE HAVE ANY CONFLICT WITH ANYTHING THAT'S GOING.
SO IT'S MORE, IT'S REALLY MORE ON THE, ON THE SHOW FARM REALLY ON THAT SIDE.
AND WE CAN EITHER LEAVE THE WOODS UP WHERE YOU CAN'T REALLY SEE THAT MUCH OR WE COULD MAKE LIKE A, A TRAIL THROUGH THERE FOR WE WANTED TO HIKE AND POOL FARM TO THE SHELTER, BUT, AND HOW WOULD THEY, WE WOULD HAVE A FENCE UP AROUND IT.
HOW WOULD THEY GET IN? PEOPLE GET IN THE ENTRANCE TO THE SHOW RAMPS.
IT WOULDN'T AFFECT ANY OF YOUR DRIVEWAY FOR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
AND THEN THE CITY SAID THAT LOCATION THERE WHERE CAN GET SEWER TO THAT, TO RIGHT THERE THAT CAN BUMP IT BACK UPSTREAM IN FRONT OF JAIL.
WELL WHAT ABOUT THEN THE POOR FARM CAN GET SEWER ACROSS FROM, UH, BY THE PRICE DISTRICT OFFICE.
OKAY, WELL WHAT ABOUT, NOW WE, I HEARD A LITTLE MENTION ABOUT DOING THE SEWER FOR THE, THE BUILDING AT THE SHOW GROUND.
WHERE IS THAT GONNA REQUIRE A PUMP STATION OR ANYTHING OR? NO, BECAUSE CROSSING UNDER THE, WE'LL HAVE TO GO UNDER THE HIGHWAY.
OBVIOUSLY ONE TIME OR TWO TIMES SHOULD BE ONE TIME.
THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT WHAT THE CITY COMAN TOLD ME WAS THEY'LL TAKE THE SAME SIDE OF THE ROAD.
AND THEY'LL PUMP IT THERE STRAIGHT UP TO, TO THE, TO THE INTERSECTION.
AND THEN ALSO THAT CAN COME ACROSS.
SO WHAT HAPPENS IS THAT'S HOW LONG WE'RE DYSFUNCTIONAL IS EVERYBODY DOES DIFFERENT THINGS.
AND NOBODY CAN REALLY TALK TO EACH OTHER.
SO, BUT ANYWAY, WHEN Y'ALL ASK ME TO CHECK THE SEWER, THAT'S WHAT THEY SAID THEY COULD DO.
SO I ASSUME THAT THE, THE FAIR GROUND WOULD BE THE SAME THING.
THEY JUST, WE JUST GET IT TO THAT POINT AND THEY JUST PUMP IT UP.
AND THEN THEY COULD ALSO COME ACROSS FROM 1388 DOWN THE SIDE ROAD BY THE PLACEMENT DISTRICT AND MAKE IT TO THE POOR FARM BECAUSE THEY ASKED THEM ABOUT THE POOR FARM, THE SEWER TOO GOOD.
BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE ANY FACILITIES OUT THERE.
SO, SO THAT REALLY ACCOMPLISH ABOUT THREE VERY GOOD THINGS AS FAR AS GETTING WATER AND SEWER.
OR NOT NECESSARILY WATER, BUT SEWER, SEWER TO EVERYTHING.
WE HAVE BEEN IN CONTACT WITH THE STATE TO ASK IF THERE WOULD BE ANY REASONING WHY WE COULDN'T BUILD ON THE PROPERTY AND BECAUSE IT'S A SUBJECT MARKER THAT IS THERE AT THE FARM.
UM, IT, THERE'S, THERE'S NOT ANY, THERE WOULDN'T BE ANY PROBLEM WITH THAT.
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SO, AND WE GET AN EMAIL FROM THEM ON THAT.DID YOU I DID I HAVE THE LETTER AND IT'S IN YOUR PACKAGE? YES SIR.
AND I CAN GIVE YOU THIS LETTER YES.
BY HAVE IT, THERE'S ONE FORM THAT I HAVE TO FILL OUT JUST TO SEND IN, WHICH, UM, JUST SO JUST KIND OF LETTING THEM KNOW, HEY, WE'RE GONNA BE DOING SOMETHING TYPE THING.
SO CAN I GET A COPY OF THAT, MATT? YOU SURE CAN.
AND WE WANT THIS TO BE A, YOU KNOW, THAT WE WANT THIS TO BE A TEAM EFFORT.
UH, YOU KNOW, UH, BUT IT WILL I THINK, BRING MORE ATTENTION TO THE P FARM AS WELL AS HELP SOLVE ANOTHER ISSUE FOR US.
AND THAT IS THE, THE ANIMAL SHELTER AS WELL.
SO, WELL I THINK IT COULD ALSO BE A BENEFIT WHENEVER WE START TEARING UP THE WOODS, IF THIS THINGS GO, WE CAN ALSO GO FURTHER INTO THE CORE FORM AND PROBABLY GET A LOT OF UNDERBRUSH OUT THAT THEY'RE MANUALLY DOING FOR THE LAST 36,000 YEARS AND THEY'RE GONNA DO IT FOR ANOTHER 36,000.
I MEAN, IF WE CAN TAKE THE MACHINERY WHAT WE'VE GOT FOR SOME TYPE, SOME TYPE OF AGREEMENT TO MAKE IT BENEFICIAL TO THEM TOO, TO GET RID OF THAT UNDERBRUSH AT THE SAME TIME, IT MIGHT BE A GOOD DEAL TOO.
SO HAVE YOU MENTIONED TO THEM ABOUT THE, UH, PEOPLE THAT, UH, SAID THEY WOULD BE WILLING TO HELP RESTORE SOME OF THE OLD, UH, RIGHT.
WELL I HAD, I HAD ABOUT TO VISIT WITH YOU.
I DO, I DO TOURS OF THE COURTHOUSE.
I'M SURE THE COMMISSIONER DIDN'T EVEN KNOW THAT.
OH, I DO TOURS OF THE COURTHOUSE AND UM, UH, THE GROUP, UH, MENNONITES FROM GRACE CURRY CAME ON A TOUR AND HE KIND OF ENDED UP THERE AT THE, FOR FARM.
THOSE GENTLEMEN KNEW ALL THE IMPLEMENTS.
IT WAS AMAZING TO HEAR THEM TALK TO THE CHILDREN ABOUT THE INFLUENCE IMPLEMENTS AND WHAT THEY DO.
AND ALSO JUST WHAT A WONDERFUL COMMUNITY SERVICE.
THEY, THEY WOULD JUST WERE SO EXCITED THAT MAYBE THEY WOULD HAVE A CHANCE TO RESTORE SOME OF THOSE BUILDINGS OR HELP IN THE RESTORATION OF SOME OF THOSE BUILDINGS.
SO YEAH, BECAUSE WE HAD THE ARCHITECTS OUT THERE MM-HMM
SO WOULD IT BE OKAY IF WE ASK FOR UPDATE ON, ON THAT THE ARCHITECTS, THE ARCHITECT IS PAYING ATTENTION TO THE SUPERINTENDENT'S HOUSE.
IT WOULD BE THE FIRST PRIORITY AND THEN THE BUILDING BEHIND IT AND THEN THE BARRACKS OR
AND THEN WITH THE CONTACT THAT WE HAVE NOW WITH THE GENTLEMAN THAT VISITED TODAY, WALTER.
UM, HE LIVED ON THE FARM AS A YOUNG BOY AND HIS UNCLE WORKED ON THE FARM AND SO THEY'RE GONNA GET THE ORAL HISTORY OF IT FROM HIM.
SO THAT GIVES US A LITTLE BIT MORE, 'CAUSE THERE WAS A HOME THAT'S UP THERE WHERE THE MOBILE OR THE PORTABLE BUILDINGS ARE.
THAT WHERE PLACE APARTMENT IS, WHERE THAT'S WHERE HE LIVES.
HE LIVED, BUT THERE'S NOT A PICTURE ONE.
I HAVEN'T SEEN A PICTURE YET OF THAT HOME.
SO MAYBE HE HAS, YOU KNOW, SOME PICTURES AND THAT HE CAN SEND, I GUESS IT WAS HIS UNCLE OR GRANDFATHER WHO'S 90 YEARS OLD.
OF COURSE HE'S NOT HEALTHY ENOUGH TO COME AND TELL US, BUT HE KNOWS THE WHOLE STORY.
UM, AND JUST REAL FAST, TODAY WAS THE FIRST DAY THAT I GOT TO VISIT WITH TOMMY ABOUT IT AND I JUST KIND OF WAS TELLING HIM ABOUT THIS PROJECT.
AND I WANT YOU COMMISSIONER TO UNDERSTAND, I HOPE THAT, UM, THIS PROJECT CAN BE AN ADOPTION CENTER.
I HOPE THAT IT, WE CAN MAKE IT SOMETHING THAT THE COFFIN COUNTY IS PROUD OF.
AND I THINK THAT HAVING IT THERE, WE'RE GOING TO BE BE BRINGING A LOT OF PEOPLE TO THE FARM OR TO THE, TO THE SHELTER.
BUT WE'RE ALSO GONNA BE BRINGING VOLUNTEERS.
AND I WANT IT TO BE A COMMUNITY EVENT.
AND I THINK THAT IS WHERE WE'RE ROLL OVER THAT IF WE HAD WALKING TRAILS TO WALK THE DOGS, YOU KNOW, THOSE KIND OF THINGS.
YOU'VE GOT APARTMENTS ACROSS THE STREET AND I BELIEVE MANY MORE APARTMENTS ARE FIXING TO BE BUILT.
THERE'S SUCH, I MEAN THERE'S SO MANY THINGS WE CAN DO WITH THIS PROJECT.
AND SO I THINK ALL WORKING TOGETHER THAT IT WOULD REALLY BE SOMETHING THAT COSMAN CAN, WELL I THINK ONE WILL FEED OFF THE OTHER OH, I DO TOO.
COME AND GET THEIR ANIMALS OR PICK UP THEIR ANIMALS OR WHATEVER.
THEY WILL SEE THE, THE RESTORED, YOU KNOW, THE CORE FARM.
AND I DIDN'T KNOW THAT WAS THERE.
YOU KNOW, SO I CAN JUST SEE THE, THE PUBLICITY I THINK WILL BE MUCH, MUCH BETTER FOR THE SCHOOL CHILDREN THAT HAVE, YOU KNOW, HOURS THAT THEY NEED TO TURN IN FOR, FOR THEIR HONOR SOCIETY AND THE COMMUNITY SERVICE MEN EVEN.
I MEAN, THERE'S SO MANY THINGS.
THE WOMEN'S SHELTER, THEY'VE ALREADY OFFERED.
UM, HAD A LADY WHEN TOMMY WAS IN THE OFFICE TODAY THAT CALLED AND ASKED ABOUT EATING A DONATION, WANTED TO GIVE A MONTHLY DONATION TO THE ANIMAL SHELTER AND WOULD IT BE A TAX? EXACTLY.
YOU KNOW, SO, SO PEOPLE WANT TO HANDLE PEOPLE.
IF YOU PUT WE HAVE THE, UH, NUMBER OF, UH, DOGS, THE NUMBER OF HOURS THAT WE, THE SHERIFF'S DEPUTIES ARE SPENDING, CARRYING THESE ANIMALS BACK AND FORTH.
CAN WE HAVE A NUMBER ON THAT? NO, I CAN ASK AND UM, COME UP WITH SOMETHING.
OH, THAT'S A COST TO THE KIDS.
SO THAT'S A DAY WHERE, AND TEAR ON THE EQUIPMENT, ALL THAT.
THAT WOULD BE INTERESTING BECAUSE THAT NUMBER WOULD PROBABLY ALMOST DOUBLE, I'M SURE IF YOU FIGURED IN THE EXPENSE OF THE, THE SHARES.
OH, I'M SURE THAT THEY WOULD SHARE IT BACK AND FORTH.
YOU KNOW, WHEN THIS WILL BE BUILT.
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WELL, IF WE CAN GET THE ERS OFF DEAD CENTER.WE'LL START PRETTY QUICK HERE.
THE WEST FESTIVAL WILL BE A LOT OF GUNFIRE.
YOU KNOW, I'M SAYING THE DOGS, I THINK THE DOGS WILL BE WE'LL BY.
THEY'LL BE IN THE SHELTER AT THAT POINT WHEN WE CAN HAVE RADIOS ON BECAUSE WE DO HAVE A GUN RANGE.
AND WE'VE THOUGHT ABOUT ALL THOSE THINGS TOO.
WE, WE'VE GOT, UH, JUST SO YOU KNOW, WE BUDGETED MONEY THIS YEAR, UH, WHICH WE MAY OR MAY NOT BE ABLE TO USE ALL OF IT.
OR WE MAY, I MEAN, WE MAY NOT BE AT THAT POINT, BUT WE'RE PAYING OUT OVER A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS A YEAR NOW.
AND YOU KNOW, THAT'S JUST EVERY TWO YEARS IT PAYS FOR ITSELF AND ALMOST.
SO SOME MANY, I THINK WE WANNA GET STARTED ON IT AS SOON AS WE CAN.
I MEAN, WHAT IF WE BUILT THE SHELTER WHERE, UM, NEEDS COULD HAVE SOMEONE RENT SPACE FROM US, MAYBE A GROOMER OR A VETERINARIAN.
I WOULD WANT GET INTO IT'S AN IDEA BECAUSE THEY COULD TURN AROUND AND THEY COULD, YOU KNOW, TAKE CARE OF OUR ANIMALS FOR US.
AND, UM, WE WOULDN'T HAVE THAT.
YEAH, I HEARD THAT ONE AND THAT WAS, WELL THIS IS GONNA BE A MAN BOAT.
IT'S, IT'S, IT'S, DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING TERRY? I WAS JUST WONDERING, HAS THERE BEEN ANY THOUGHT ON THE, LIKE SELLING MEMBERSHIPS, UH, TO BOAT TO BE MEMBERS HAVE DIFFERENT LEVELS OF MEMBERSHIPS, YOU KNOW, UH, TO BE MEMBERS OF THE ANIMAL SHELTER? THAT'S GREAT IDEA.
MY, MY SISTER'S REAL BIG WITH THE SPC AND ALL THAT AND SHE'S, THERE'S ONE IN
I THINK WE'VE ALREADY HAD A THOUSAND TO THE NONPROFIT 5 0 1 STATE WITH MANY OTHERS THAT ANYONE PICK UP.
AS SOON AS THEY SEE WE'RE GOING FORWARD DOING SOMETHING, IT'LL INTEREST WOULD OBVIOUSLY PICK UP.
BUT WE JUST, WE'VE GOTTA DO SOMETHING.
GET OFF DEAD CENTER IF WE HAVE TO AT LEAST HAVE THIS DISCUSSION.
SO MAKE SURE THAT THE HISTORICAL PERMISSION IS ON BOARD WITH US AND WHATEVER.
SO WE'LL, WE'LL PROCEED TO THE NEXT, UH, NEXT STEP.
AND UH, THE COMMISSIONER, WE NEED TO, YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO KEEP EVERYBODY INFORMED AS WELL AS WE CAN.
BUT BOBBY I'M SURE WILL DO AS WELL.
BUT A LOT OF THIS IS GONNA BE CONTRACTED OUT.
I'M HOPING SOME IT WILL HAVE DONATED COMMERCIAL.
WELL YOU HAVE QUESTION SANTA CLAUS, BOTH OF THOSE REMEMBER, JUST HAVE HOPE.
WELL WE PROBABLY WANT TO APPROVE THE LOCATION AND START BIDDING PROCESS, SPECIAL SERVICES AND ALL THAT.
WHAT DO YOU NEED YOUR SIDE AS FAR AS THE LOCATION? IS THIS THIS THE FIRST DEPART? NO, MY CONCERN THIS MORNING WE WALK IN THE FLOOR PRIMARY.
I WASN'T HAPPY ABOUT THAT, BUT THE WAY IT'S GONNA BE IS GREAT.
TO GET GOOD INFORMATION OUT MUCH AS WE CAN.
THIS IS THE COVER SHEET THAT WE DID GET, UH, FOR BOB, UH, BASS.
I YOU TO READ HIS COMMENTS, UH, DOING WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
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ALL KAREN DO YOU WANT COME UP FINALLY.I GUESS PARKING LOT UPDATE YOU.
LET PRESENTATION YOU TALK REALLY? THE PARKING LOT.
WHAT WE'VE DONE IS UM, HAS DONE A GREAT JOB.
UH, WE WORKED WITH THE CITY AND THE CITY ENGINEERS LOOKED AT IT, THE CITY MANAGER, UH, MARCY AND ALL AGREED, THIS IS WHAT WE CAN DO.
SKET AND I HAD OUT THERE, UH, WE'VE ALREADY, UH, S***T SKIES BECAUSE WE'RE RAIN THE OTHER DAY COULD COME OUT, PATCH A HOLE IN OLD ASPHALT PARKING LOT AND WE'VE GOT THE PROPER CORNERS ALL LOCATED.
UM, WE'VE GOTTEN ALL THE TREES SHUT DOWN AND STUFF AROUND.
SO REALLY AS LONG AS EVERYBODY'S OKAY WITH THIS, WE START DIRT AS MUCH AS WE CAN, AS FAST AS WE CAN.
I, I'VE GOTTA GET SOME ABOUT GETTING HAVE A, HE HAD SKI BECAUSE I HAD A NO, NO, I'VE GOT SKI.
I JUST STOPPED GOING ROAD DO A PARKING LOT BECAUSE IT'S A LONG STORY.
SHE WON'T GIMME ENOUGH MONEY TO REPLACE MY JOB.
BUT, BUT ANYWAY, WE'RE GONNA BE TALKING TO ALL THE COMMISSIONERS.
SPEAK FOR HELP, HAUL DIRT STUFF.
IF WE TO THIS, WE START LAYING OUT, WE START MOVING DIRT AS BEST WE CAN AND THEN, UH, AND PAM AND DWAY AND BRIAN, THE NEIGHBORS ACROSS THE STREET, THE TRAILS REAL NICE FOLKS.
THEY WERE CONCERNED ABOUT WHAT IT WAS GONNA LOOK RIGHT.
SO WE WORKED WITH, WE GOT GREEN SPACE.
THE CITY WAS HAPPY WITH WERE THE KIND OF TREES WANT AT EVERY DAY.
SO I, I THINK IT'S GOING GREAT.
UH, WHEN DO START TO WORK, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE THE SENIOR CITIZENS AND MAYBE A FEW OF OUR EMPLOYEES PARK THERE, SO WE MAY NEED TO COMMUNICATE WITH THEM ON YEAH, I, AND I DON'T KNOW HOW TO DO THAT BECAUSE I BELIEVE THANK, ONCE WE GET GOING, WE PARKING LOT BIG TRUCKS THAT WAY NEXT LOT RIGHT THERE BY US, THE NEIGHBORS CHURCH THAT ALWAYS HAVE THAT OUT.
EVERY TIME YOU GET CLOSE TO IT, YOU GET SMELLING DISTANCE OF IT.
THEY TELL YOU GET OFF THE NEXT.
THAT'S YOUR PEOPLE, AREN'T THEY? NO
BUT ANYWAY, IT'S, THEY'RE JUST SCHEDULED DAMAGE THE PROPERTY OVER THERE.
BUT I MEAN WITH THE CARS, PEOPLE PARK THE CARS WE CALL THEM MAYBE.
AND PAM CAN YOU DO THAT? SEE SENIOR SYSTEM OUREMPLOYEES TOO.
I THINK THE GUY THAT USED TO PARK THERE ALL THE TIME THAT PARK THERE.
WELL IT DOESN'T HAVE A SHADE TREE ANYMORE.
SO
YOU KNOW, WE DON'T WANNA PUT ANYBODY OUTTA BUSINESS TO STOP PRODUCTIVITY IN THE COUNTY BECAUSE I DON'T WANT EITHER YOU, I BE ABLE MOVING ROPE AND I KNOW EVERYBODY ELSE DOES TOO.
BUT WE CAN SACRIFICE PIECES OF EQUIPMENT, GET A SCHEDULE, WE CAN EFFORT.
I THINK WE'VE GOT ALL THE PRELIMINARY WORK DONE, BUT WE'VE GOT THE MAP HERE WORKING TOGETHER.
ARE THE ROAD MATERIALS THAT ARE BEING UH, PURCHASED FOR THIS PRO PROJECT? IS IT KIND OF OFF OF THE VARIOUS ROAD MATERIALS? I THINK WE'RE USING THE SAME CONTRACT, BUT WE SELL THE SPECIAL ACCOUNT FOR THIS PARKING.
WE'RE JUST GONNA USE THE SAME VENDORS ALREADY CONTRACTED ASPHALT BE EXPENSE ASPHALT.
I DUNNO, I CAN'T AFFORD TO ASAL TO MIKE.
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I'LL HOOK YOU UPALRIGHT, JUST BEFORE WE HEAR KAREN, LET'S DO THE COMMISSIONER SUPPORT MEETING ROOM.
UH, TOMMY YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT THAT A LITTLE BIT? I DIDN'T DO IT.
HAVE ANY INFORMATION IN THAT JUDGE.
IT WASN'T PASSED ON TO ME THIS MORNING.
I THINK THE UH, BOBBY IS HIS SON'S GRADUATING THIS AFTERNOON.
BOBBY'S NOT, HERE'S NOT HERE FOR THAT MATTER BUT UH, I THINK THE PLANS HAVE BEEN APPROVED AND ACCEPTED BY THE CITY AND IT'S JUST A MATTER OF NOW GETTING IT BID OUT.
I THINK LISA, WE TALKED A LITTLE BIT THE OTHER DAY ABOUT HOW WE WERE GONNA DO IT.
WE'RE GONNA BE DOING PART OF THE WORK.
SOMEBODY ELSE BE DOING THE REST IT.
SO, UH, WE'VE STILL GOTTA DETERMINE HOW'S THE BEST WAY TO DO THAT.
SO THAT GOTTA GET SOME YOU GOTTA GET SOME RIGHT SOME AND SCOPE SOME ESTIMATES.
KAREN, YOU WANT TO COME UP AND FINISH THIS UP? BAD.
OH, JUDGE WANTED TO ASK YOU TO KIND OF GO OVER SOMETHING WITH Y'ALL.
EVERYBODY GOT THE SAME INFORMATION AS PRECINCT ONE.
THE NEXT FOUR PAGES IS PRECINCT TWO.
I WANTED YOU TO SEE WHAT YOUR BALANCE SHEET LOOKED LIKE, WHAT YOUR REVENUES LOOK LIKE AND WHAT YOUR EXPENDITURES LOOK LIKE.
SO IF YOU'LL LOOK ON THE, THE TOP PART OF THIS, I DID THIS RURAL SEMINAR IS YOUR BALANCE SHEET.
SO PRECINCT ONE THAT DOESN'T HAVE ANY MONEY HAS LIKE 1.8, YOU KNOW, CASH I QUE MM-HMM
YOU KNOW AS YOU WELL ARE LEARNING EVERY DAY, BUT IT'S GOOD INFORMATION FOR YOU.
AND IF YOU NOTICED YOUR ACCOUNT PAYABLE LINE ITEM IS ZERO.
WHY IS THAT? WE PAID THE BILLS THE OTHER DAY, PAID BILLS MONEY.
SO THEN WHAT YOU ENDED UP IN 2016 IS CALLED YOUR FUND BALANCE, WHICH IS YOUR 915.
ALRIGHT, WELL 1.8 AND NINE 15 DON'T BALANCE BUT YOU LOOK AT YOUR REVENUES OVER YOUR EXPENDITURES OF 971,000, IT DOES BALANCE.
ALRIGHT? I HIGHLIGHTED DOWN BELOW THE SAME NUMBER.
THAT'S HOW WE COME UP WITH IT IN THE ACCOUNTING SYSTEM.
SO WHAT YOU DON'T SPEND IS ROLLED OVER INTO YOUR FUND BALANCE WHEN I CLOSE THE BOOK SEPTEMBER 30TH.
SOME OF YOU HAVE A COUPLE OF EXTRA LINES, SO DON'T PANIC THINK WELL THEY GOT SOMETHING I DON'T, IT'S BECAUSE THEY'VE GOT SOME INSURANCE REIMBURSEMENTS OR SOMETHING ELSE GOING ON.
BUT I DIDN'T GO INTO THE DETAIL ON YOUR EXPENDITURES BECAUSE THAT'S YOUR FOURTH PAGE OF YOUR REPORT.
WITH ALL THOSE LINE ITEMS, IT WOULD'VE MADE IT TOO CUMBERSOME AND BEEN ABOUT A FOUR PAGE REPORT FOR YOU TO LOOK AT.
SO YOU I SEE I SAID SEE ATTACHED AND THAT'S YOUR TOTAL NUMBER OF EXPENDITURES YEAR TO DATE SINCE I PAID BILLS MONDAY AND I TAKE YOUR 2.146, SUBTRACT THE 1.174, THAT'S WHERE I GOT THE 9 7 1 THAT ROLLS UP INTO YOUR REVENUES OVER EXPENDITURES.
THE BACKUP IS TO PROVE THAT IT'S BALANCED.
'CAUSE IF YOUR ASSETS, LIABILITIES AND YOUR EQUITY DON'T BALANCE, THERE'S SOMETHING WRONG WITH YOUR ACCOUNTING SYSTEM AND THE PERSON THAT'S DOING YOUR BOOKS.
SO YOU HAVE PROOF THAT THAT'S BACKED UP AND THEY'RE PERFECTLY BALANCED.
AND YOUR MOST TAX MONEY IS, IS IN NINE 6%.
BUT YOU WILL CONTINUE TO GET OTHER MONEY THAT WILL COME IN DURING THE SUMMARY.
WELL THEN, THEN YOU, YOU DON'T JUST GET TAX MONEY.
YOU GET MONEY FROM THE DISTRICT CLERK, COUNTY CLERK GET FROM THE TAX ASSESSOR FOR THE AUTO REGISTRATION AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
WE HAVE YOUR MONEY INVESTED AT THE BANK AND IT TAKES FULL PRIME.
SO WHEN WE GET THOSE INTEREST STATEMENTS THAT RONNIE GOES THROUGH WITH YOU, IT SHOWS YOU, YOU GET SOME INTEREST.
THAT'S WHY IN YOUR REVENUES YOU HAVE AN INTEREST LINEUP THAT SHOWS YOU YOU'VE EARNED SOME MONEY TO HELP YOU.
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SIMPLY BECAUSE YOU'RE ALLOWED TO KEEP THOSE FUNDS AND ROLL 'EM OVER FROM YEAR TO YEAR.IF YOU'LL LOOK UP HERE WHERE I HAVE, UM, THE ESTIMATED BEGINNING FUND BALANCE AT THE BOTTOM OF THE REVENUE PARK.
LOOK AT FINE OH 2 1 9 9 9 9 9 3 9 1.
CAN YOU READ THAT NOW? YES MA'AM.
I CAN'T PUT LET YOU WEAR MY GLASSES LIVING.
YOU SEE THAT PARENTHESIS, WE ESTIMATED THAT YOUR BEGINNING BALANCE AND FUND BALANCE WOULD BE 9 76 4 50.
THAT'S BECAUSE SOME EXTRA BILLS CAME IN THAT WE HAD TO BOOK FOR LAST FISCAL YEAR.
SO EACH ONE OF Y'ALL WILL HAVE A NUMBER IN THE PARENTHESES TO SHOW YOU.
AND THAT'S WHY WE TRY TO BE REAL CONSERVATIVE.
'CAUSE WE DON'T WANT TO TELL YOU, OH GOD, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE A MILLION DOLLARS AND AGAIN IN BALANCE AND THEN YOU JUST GO WILD AND THEN YOU DON'T GET IT.
WHEN WE CLOSE THE BOOKS AND YOU'RE SAYING, WHY DID YOU ESTIMATE SO HIGH? WELL, YOU KNOW, I GUESS THE THING THAT SCARES ME THE MOST ABOUT ALL THIS IS HAVING TO GO FROM OCTOBER UNTIL THE TAX DOLLARS COME IN JANUARY 31ST IS BASICALLY, WELL WE GET IT MIGHT A BIT IN DECEMBER, BUT I MEAN THAT'S WHAT 40 MAYBE 50%, 60% COMES IN IN DEC THIS IS, THIS IS THE SECOND YEAR THAT WE HAVE NOT HAD TO GO IN FORT.
BUT, AND WE DIDN'T THE YEAR BEFORE, IT WAS JUST PREVIOUS THIS, THE PREVIOUS TREASURER WAS SCARED WE WOULDN'T HAVE ENOUGH MONEY AND WE MADE IT.
BUT THAT'S, I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, YOU WANNA MAKE SURE YOU GOT ENOUGH TO OPERATE WITH DURING THE, THAT PERIOD WORKS MUCH.
AND WITH, LET'S GO INTO TEX POOL PRIME, WE'RE GETTING A LITTLE BIT OF EXTRA INTEREST MONEY, WHICH IS ALWAYS GOOD.
AND THEN THAT MONEY'S NOT SET IN ILE.
IT'S IT'S BEING INVESTED AND WE'VE GETTING SOME RETURN ON IT.
FOURTH YEAR THAT WE'VE ADDED THE PHONE BALANCE.
AND I CAN'T RELEASE ALL OF THAT BECAUSE Y'ALL HAVE TO LOOK AT THE REPORT BECAUSE I'M GONNA MAKE A, MY, I GOT FIRST, I'VE GOT BEST OBJECT
UM, DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT YOUR NO.
YOURS HAS CURRENT IN DELINQUENT, SO THAT'S WHY YOUR PERCENTAGES ARE HIGHER.
SO IT GETS KIND OF A LITTLE CONFUSING THERE.
'CAUSE WE, WHEN WE CLASSIFY 'EM, WE PUT THOSE DELINQUENTS IN THE INTEREST IN WITH THE, THE TRANSFERS.
SO WE JUST KIND OF WANTED EVERYBODY TO HAVE THE SAME INFORMATION.
AND THEN IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS OR CLARIFICATIONS, I MEAN THAT'S WHAT KAREN GO OVER WITH YOU THAT, THAT YOU SEE THAT YOU DO HAVE SOME MONEY, BUT YOU GOT, AS OF OCTOBER 1ST, YOU WILL, UH, GET A LOT OF MONEY FOR THE FIRST TWO OF THEIR MONTHS.
THAT'S WHY, AND THIS WILL BE Y'ALL FIRST CYCLE ON THAT.
AND THAT'S WHY WE ALWAYS ASK WHENEVER THE NEW BUDGET STARTS, IS A HOLD OFF ON THOSE BIG PURCHASES IF AT ALL POSSIBLE.
I MEAN, LET'S SAY THAT FOR EMERGENCY PURPOSES, LET'S TRY TO WAIT TILL THE TAX DOLLARS COME IN AND, AND THEN, AND I KNOW IT GETS REAL CONFUSING ON THE BUYBACKS, WHICH WE'RE NOT GONNA DO THOSE ANYMORE, BUT YOU KNOW, YOU BUY FOUR DUMP TRUCKS AT 110 PS SO YOU OWE 440 PLUS SOME INTEREST.
WE'LL SAY 10,000 INTEREST, BUT HE'S GUARANTEED YOU OWE, WE BOUGHT THEM FOR 110.
I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU A HUNDRED THOUSAND BACK.
SO WE PUT THAT A HUNDRED THOUSAND TIMES FOUR IN YOUR REVENUE SIDE AND WE PUT THIS EXPENDITURE SO YOU REALLY WIND UP COMING 50,000 FOR THE YEAR THAT YOU USE THOSE VEHICLES.
'CAUSE I KNOW YOU'RE SAYING, WELL WHY, WHY DO YOU GOT SO MUCH MONEY IN MY SALE OF ASSETS? THAT'S THE WAY IT HAS TO BE.
[02:05:01]
BUYBACK GOES THROUGH, YOU'RE GOING TO SEE THAT MONEY COME IN FROM EAST TEX MAX.THEN YOU'RE GONNA SEE THAT MONEY GOING OUT TO BANKCORP.
ONE THING I WILL SAY, ANYTIME THAT ANYTIME I EVER CALL OR ABSOLUTELY WE CALL HIM AT LEAST TWO, THREE TIMES A JUST BEING NICE.
SO I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ELSE ON UNLESS, UH, WE, UH, I I THINK WE'VE PRETTY WELL COVERED EVERYTHING ON THE AGENDA.
THAT'S ANY, EVERYTHING WE TALKED ABOUT ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ADJOURN.
COMMISSIONER ALLEN, MR. ALL IN FAVOR.