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A WORKSHOP, A BUDGET WORKSHOP, AND WE HAVE SEVERAL PEOPLE WE DO VISITING WITH TODAY.WE'VE HAD A FEW LATE MINUTE CHANGES THAT ANGIE HAS, UH, MADE YOU AWARE OF HERE, I THINK IN
SO FIRST ON THE AGENDA IS THE EXTENSION OFFICE, AND WE HAVE RALPH, UH, DAVIS HERE.
WHAT, WHAT, WHAT HE'S THINKING.
UH, I GAVE ALL Y'ALL A REVISED COPY.
WE SENT, SENT IN A, A LETTER TO THE JUDGE HERE CALLED LAST MONTH, 4, 5, 6 WEEKS AGO.
AND, UH, I, I LAID IN FRONT OF, WITH KIND OF A REVISED COPY OF THAT.
IT'S NOT REVISED TOO MUCH, BUT, UH, BUT IT IS A LITTLE, WE, WE HAVE, UH, I'LL KIND OF START THIS OFF WITH, UH, FIRST LINE ITEM I'VE GOT THERE.
UH, WE HAVE TWO COMPUTERS IN OUR OFFICE THAT HAVE CRASH LINCOLN, UH, SHARON, MY ADMINISTRATIVE SYSTEM, UH, SO, AND CARRIE'S, UH, HAVE BEEN IN OUR SHOP.
SO I'M ASKING TO KIND OF INCREASE THAT LINE.
WE FILE COMPUTERS FOR TERRY AND MIKE.
Y'ALL PROBABLY DUNNO, I THINK BEEN THROUGH THIS BEFORE.
BUT, UH, WE BUY OUR COMPUTERS THROUGH TEXAS, A LIFE EXTENSION.
THEY HAVE A, UH, THEY HAVE A COST SHARE PROGRAM WHERE THE COUNTY EXTENS PAY COST AND THE, UH, EXTENSION PAY HALF COST.
THEY'RE VERY GOOD QUALITY COMPUTERS.
AND THEY COME LOADED WITH ALL THE SOFTWARE ON THEM THAT, THAT WE POSSIBLY NEED.
THEY'RE CHANGING OUR COMPUTERS THIS YEAR.
UH, THEY'RE GONNA BE UP KIND OF UPDATED.
WE'VE LOOKED AT THE PRICE WITH OUR COMPUTER LINE ITEM.
WE USED THAT THING DOWN TO THE MAX EVERY YEAR.
AND UH, SO WE'RE ASKING FOR A LITTLE INCREASE THIS YEAR OF, UH, 1250 TO GET US UP TO 2,500 ON THAT, THAT, SO WE CAN BUY TWO NEW COMPUTERS.
IF WE DON'T HAVE ANY MORE CRASHES, WE CAN PROBABLY DO THAT BACK TO YOU AGAIN NEXT YEAR.
WE'LL DECREASE IT BY THAT MUCH.
PRETTY CLOSE ON WHAT WE DO THE REST OF.
SO THE COST YOU HOW MUCH? I THINK THESE COMPUTERS ARE LIKE $2,500 COMPUTERS MUST BE SUPER.
THEY'RE, THEY, THEY GOT LOTS OF HARDWARE AND M PICKS UP A LARGE DIS EXPENSE FOR THAT.
WHERE WE HAVE A COOPERATIVE AGREEMENT, JUDGE GEORGE ACTUALLY HAS TO SIGN EVERY YEAR OF A PIECE OF PAPER THAT, UH, SAYS WE HAVE A COOPERATIVE AGREEMENT FOR THE COUNTY TO PROVIDE US OUR INTERNET SERVICE.
BUT TEXAS A M DOES ALL THE COMPUTER MAINTENANCE AND THAT KIND OF THING PROVIDE THESE COMPUTERS BECAUSE THEY BUY RIGHT.
DO WHAT BREAK YOU SEND THEM BACK.
WE DO, YOU KNOW, THEY, THEY, THEY BREAK.
WE DO SEND 'EM BACK, BUT LIKE CARRIE'S, I THINK HERS HAS BEEN DOWN THERE THREE TIMES.
I MEAN THAT ENOUGH'S ENOUGH, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? HERS IS JUST RIDE.
SHE PUTS TOO MUCH STUFF ON FOR H WAY TOO MUCH STUFF.
SO AGENTS TRAVEL, THIS IS KIND OF A WEIRD THING ON OUR AGENTS TRAVEL Y'ALL GAVE US LAST YEAR, GAVE US, UH, $1,500 EXTRA FOR CARRIE TO BE ABLE TO ATTEND A NATIONAL MEETING.
UH, IN Y WE'RE GIVING THAT BACK TO YOU THIS YEAR, BUT WE WOULD LIKE TO INCREASE WHAT WE USED TO HAVE $300 THAT WILL COVER OUR, OUR MOTEL COSTS AND OUR TRAVEL TO THE CONVENTIONS THAT WE GO TO, UH, EVERY YEAR FOR OUR PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPMENT.
IT'S JUST THE PRICE OF MOTELS GONE UP.
UH, WE'RE ASKING FOR A TOTAL BUDGET, UH, OF $6,000 ON WHAT IS OUR CURRENT 7,200.
WE'RE ACTUALLY GIVING MONEY BACK NOW.
IS THAT, MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND THAT.
THAT'S NOT THE THE MONTHLY TRAVEL.
WE'RE NOT ASKING FOR CHANGE IN THE MONTH.
I WAS HOPING CARRIE WOULD BE HERE TO EXPLAIN, BUT I I'LL, I'LL DO IT FOR HER.
SO SHE HAS INCREASED, SHE HAS INCREASED THE AMOUNT OF KIDS THAT, THAT ARE PARAPROFESSIONAL.
WE HAVE TWO PARAPROFESSIONALS THAT WORK, UH, WORK WITH US, UH, VICKY SCHER AND LISA NAS.
AND THEY, WHAT THEY DO IS THEY GO
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TO THE SCHOOLS, ALMOST EVERY SCHOOL IN THE COUNTY AND THEY TEACH EXTRACURRICULAR COURSE COURSES THAT, UH, PRETTY MUCH COINCIDE WITH THE STEM TESTS, THE SCIENCE AND TECHNOLOGY, UH, THINGS THAT THE SCHOOLS ARE MANDATED TO DO.WELL, THEY, THEY TEACH A LOT OF THE SCIENCE, UH, CLASSES FOR THESE KIDS THAT, THAT TEACHERS DON'T REGULARLY GET TO DO.
UH, AND THEY GO INTO THOSE CLASSES AND TEACH 'EM.
WELL, THEY, THEY, THEY'RE KIND OF BECAUSE OF THE WAY THAT PART-TIME WORK, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE KIND OF STOPPED.
THEY CAN'T WORK FOR 20 HOURS A WEEK, BUT CARRIE WANTS TO, VICKY CAME ON LATE, SO SHE'S NOT GETTING QUITE THE AMOUNT OF SALARY THAT, THAT LISA IS.
AND WHAT CARRIE'S ASKING TO DO IN THIS LINE OF ITEMS IS INCREASE OUR BUDGET ENOUGH THAT THEY CAN WORK 25 HOURS A WEEK.
THEY DON'T WANT TO GET UP TO THE 30 HOUR LEVEL, WHICH THROWS THEM INTO, UH, INSURANCE AND THAT KIND OF THING.
BUT, BUT SHE'D LIKE FARM TO BE ABLE TO WORK BETWEEN THAT 25 AND 29 HOURS A WEEK.
UH, AND BOTH OF 'EM GET PAID THE SAME AMOUNT.
UH, THEY BOTH DO AN EXCELLENT JOB.
THEY, I THINK SHE DIDN'T HAVE ADDRESS NUMBERS MAYBE ON THE INCREASES.
UH, YOU SAY SHE HAD LIKE IN 2017, UH, HAD A 45% INCREASE IN PROGRAMMING.
UH, THEY WENT FROM 8,300 STUDENTS, BUT THEY SEE 12,000 SEVERAL HUNDRED 88 STUDENTS.
UH, YOU SEE THE, THE STEM PROGRAMS WERE MADE AVAILABLE TO 64 TEACHERS ANYWAY.
UH, I, I DIDN'T, UH, I TOLD CALLED THE JUDGE A COUPLE MONTHS AGO BECAUSE I ALREADY DIDN'T KNOW SALARIES WAS SOMETHING APPROPRIATE.
I HAD CREW CALLED AND SAID THE GATE OPEN SO DAY EARLY.
SO CARRIE, I'M TRYING TO EXPLAIN TO 'EM THE PARAPROFESSIONAL SALARY INCREASE HERE.
UH, RIGHT NOW THE PARAPROFESSIONALS ARE WITH THAT LINE ITEM.
THEY GO INTO THE SCHOOLS AND HELP OUT THE TEACHERS.
THEY DO SEVERAL OTHER PROGRAMS WITH FOUR H AND EXTENSION PROGRAMS. UM, RIGHT NOW THAT LINE ITEM ALLOWS THOSE TWO LADIES TO GO IN AND WE CAP THAT 20 HOURS A WEEK.
IF I MAKE IT, IF I BUDGET THAT TIME AND THAT LINE FOR THOSE YOUNG LADIES TO GO IN EVERY WEEK.
SO RIGHT NOW WITH ONE BEING PAID AT 1450, THE ONE PAID AT 13 HOURS, UH, DOLLARS PER HOURS, UM, FOR ME TO BE ABLE TO KEEP THEM WORKING THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE ENTIRE YEAR.
THAT LINE ON THAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW, PRESENTLY, THEY CAN ONLY WORK 20 HOURS A WEEK.
WE RUN OUT OF MONEY AT THE END OF THE BUDGET.
IT HAS BEEN THIS YEAR WE HAVE UM, WENT AND DID TWO NEW PROGRAMS. ONE OF THEM WE'RE STARTING, WE STARTED AT 40.
AND WHAT IT WAS BASICALLY IS WE'RE DOING BOX PROGRAMS. THOSE BOX PROGRAMS ARE WHERE WE GO AND TEACH THE TEACHERS HOW TO WORK THE CURRICULUM.
WE WORK VERY CLOSELY WITH THE SCIENCE DIRECTORS TO FIGURE OUT WHERE EACH CLASS IS NEEDING HELP AT.
SO BETWEEN K THROUGH FIVE, THE TWO PROGRAM ASSISTANTS WORKED WITH THOSE SCIENCE DIRECTORS FOR THE SCHOOL DISTRICT AND FIGURED OUT WHAT EXACTLY THEY WERE NEEDING OR LACKING IN THE PREVIOUS SCHOOL YEAR TO TRY TO HELP THOSE STUDENTS BE READY FOR THEIR TEST.
THAT WAS VERY, UH, TIME CONSUMING.
'CAUSE WE WERE ACTUALLY BASICALLY GOING IN AND TEACHING THE TEACHER HOW TO BE COMFORTABLE TO TEACH THAT TYPE OF CURRICULUM.
AND SO IT WAS BENEFICIAL IN THE FACT THAT IT RAISED OUR NUMBERS THAT WE'RE ACTUALLY REACHING OUT TO, UH, THIS LAST YEAR WE INCREASED THE NUMBER OF KIDS WE REACHED TO BY 45%.
AND SO WE BASICALLY REACHED OUT TO 12,000 STUDENTS THIS YEAR DOING THESE TYPE OF PROGRAMS. TARA, ISD IS THE NEXT, UH, SCHOOL DISTRICT.
I'D LIKE TO JUMP ONTO THIS, WHERE WE TEACH THE TEACHERS HOW TO BE COMFORTABLE DOING THOSE TYPE OF SCIENCE PROGRAMS. FOR ME TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT, I NEED THE, WITH THE PROGRAM ASSISTANCE CAT AT 20 HOURS A WEEK TO BE ABLE TO MAKE IT TO THE END OF THE YEAR AND NOT HAVE TO HAVE 'EM TAKE OFF TIME.
I NEED, UM, MORE MONEY, WHICH IS BASICALLY THE MONEY I'M ASKING FOR.
AND THAT ALSO INCREASE THEIR HOURS OF 25 HOURS A WEEK.
SO WITH THAT EXTRA TIME, THEY CAN HELP PREPARE THE TEACHERS, THEN REACH OUT TO MORE TEACHERS AND ADD MORE SCHOOL DISTRICTS TO IT.
SO WE'RE ASKING FOR A 7,000 INCREASE.
YOU UNDERSTAND THAT WILL BE MORE THAN THAT BECAUSE WE DO PAY SOCIAL SECURITY ON IT AND RETIREMENT AS WELL.
YES, THEY THEY DON'T GET THAT.
WE WORKED WITH THE, WE WORKED WITH THE, THE HR
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YOU IN HOW MUCH THEY NEEDED ASK.SO THE 7,000, DO YOU UNDERSTAND THAT THE COURT DOES DECIDE TO THE GRANDAD THAT THE AMOUNT THEY PAY INTO SOCIAL SECURITY INTO RETIREMENT, RIGHT.
SO THAT WOULD BE ALL INCLUSIVE.
ARE THESE CERTIFIED TEACHERS OR JUST VOLUNTEERS? NO, ACTUALLY THE TWO PROGRAM ASSISTANTS, WE HAVE USED TO HAVE THE TEACHER CERTIFICATE, UHHUH AND ACTUALLY USED TO WORK IN THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS.
AND NOW THEY'RE PROGRAM ASSISTANTS WITH ME AND THEY RECEIVED THEIR CONTINUED CREDIT HOURS WITH ME.
BUT AS PER CERTIFIED, THEY'RE ONLY CERTIFIED TO GO INTO SUBSTITUTE RIGHT NOW THEY'RE NOT CERTIFIED TO GO IN AND TEACH.
THIS KINDERGARTEN THROUGH FIFTH GRADE, RIGHT NOW WE'RE WORKING WITH 20 KINDERGARTEN THROUGH FIFTH GRADE AND TERRELL, THEY WANTED US TO GO UP TO EIGHTH GRADE.
WE'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT PROGRAMS THEY'RE WANTING.
OTHER SCHOOL DISTRICTS ARE ADAPTING IT TO WHAT THEY NEED.
SOME OF THEM ARE NOT ASKING FOR THE KINDERGARTEN PROGRAM, THEY'RE JUST ASKING BE FIRST THROUGH FIFTH.
IT SEEMS LIKE MOST OF THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS ARE JUST ASKING FOR THAT FIRST THROUGH FIFTH GRADE PUSH IN THEIR CLASSROOMS THAT OF SCHOOL WON, BE PAYING FOR DOING WELL I LIKE MINE.
THEY'RE ASKING, I'M JUST, I'M JUST THINKING, I'M THINKING WE HAVE ASKED 'EM.
UM, SINCE IT WAS SUCH A SUCCESS IN NEY, WE DID START THE COMMUNICATION, UH, 'CAUSE UM, I CAN'T FIGURE OUT PER PROGRAM HOW MUCH ONE COST PER STUDENT HEAD.
SO THIS, I STARTED TALKING WITH FORNEY ABOUT COULD YOU ALL HELP SUPPLEMENT THIS AT LEAST THE SUPPLY LIST.
UH, 'CAUSE FARM BUREAU PICKS UP, YOU GUYS PICK UP THE MAJORITY OF IT.
IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S AG RELATED, FARM BUREAU HELPS ME OUT WITH SOME OF THEIR GRANTS.
AND SO, UM, THAT WAS GOING ALONG GREAT UNTIL THIS LAST UH, SESSION DOWN AT AUSTIN AND THEN ALL COMMUNICATIONS HAVE CEASED.
SO I NEED TO TRY TO PICK THAT COMMUNICATION ONE SECOND.
'CAUSE NOW THEY SAY THAT THEY HAVE LOTS OF CUTS GOING ON, BUT I'M NOT REALLY EVEN SURE HER, UH, SCHOOL DISTRICT-WISE, UH, IF THEY DON'T COME OUTTA IT, ANY SPECIAL SESSION THEY DID SESSION THAT JUST ENDED THERE.
I DOUBT IF THEY'LL BE ABLE TO PICK ANYTHING UP.
NO, THEY WERE LOOKING AT IT SINCE I WAS ABLE TO PUT PER UM, PER ACTIVITY, I KNOW EXACTLY HOW MUCH IT COST PER STUDENT.
BUT NOW THEY'RE JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THEIR NEW BUDGETS GONNA BE.
WHAT THE STUDENT NUMBER YOU HAVE ON THERE.
YOU'RE DOING YOUR EVERY SINGLE ELEMENTARY PLACE.
WE'RE ALMOST IN EVERY ELEMENTARY, EVEN IN MAYBANK WE'RE NOT IN THERE.
AND IS THAT, THAT WE'RE GOING IN AND DOING THE ACTUAL TEACHING? 'CAUSE MAYBANK HAS PICKED UP TO THE POINT WHERE THEY'RE DOING A LOT OF THEIR OWN PROGRAMS THAT WE'VE HELPED THEM WITH, BUT WE ARE ASSISTING DIRECTED TEACHERS AND PROGRAM.
MATTER OF FACT, MAYBANK CAME UP WITH A VERY EXCELLENT PROGRAM, ESPECIALLY IN THEIR, UM, SOUTH SIDE, UH, CAMPUS WHERE THEY ACTUALLY HAVE THEIR OWN LITTLE SMALL FARM.
BUT THAT COME FROM YEARS AGO WITH RENEE AND LISA AND THEY ALL WORKED AT A REALLY GOOD TEACHING PROGRAM THERE AND THEY JUST KEEP KEEPING THAT YEAR AFTER YEAR.
WE, YOU CLOSE TO THE END OF HER TIME.
I'M KIND OF A TIMEKEEPER, SO GO AHEAD.
AND WE'RE WE'RE, YOU KNOW, WE, YOU'RE GIVING US IN PLACE WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO LOOK AT BEFORE WE MAKE A DECISION.
SO THE NEXT THING ON THAT BUDGET WAS, UH, TRAINING PARAPROFESSIONAL.
I THINK CARRIE WANTS TO GO INTO TRAINING.
THERE'S THE MD ANDERSON TRAINING AND THEN THERE ALSO IS THE, UH, TEXAS FOUR A SUMMIT, WHICH IS IN THE FALL.
UM, THOSE ARE BOTH, UH, PROGRAMS THAT WILL GIVE THEM, UH, ADDITIONAL PRO UH, PROGRAMMING EXPERIENCE AND ALSO TEACH THEM AND WITH THE MD ANDERSON.
AND WE ALSO BRING BACK A LOT OF FREE, UH, CURRICULUM THAT WE USE WITH THE CLASSROOMS. ALRIGHT, AND YOUR, YOUR BUDGET THIS YEAR ON TRAINING PARIS PAGE 200 HUNDRED.
AND YOU'RE ASKING FOR HOW ABOUT $550 INCREASE? FIVE 50, RIGHT.
THERE WERE THOSE TWO TRAINING.
AND THEN THE LAST ONE THERE, THE FAMILY OF IS FAMILY CONSUMER SCIENCES.
REAL QUICKLY, CAMAN COUNTY HAS BEEN SELECTED TO BE A PILOT TO DO A PILOT PROGRAM IN FAMILY CONSUMER SCIENCES, UH, FROM THEIR AREA AT COLLEGE STATION, UH, TO KATIE.
I HAD KATIE RIGHT THIS PARAGRAPH THAT THERE'S ONLY 12 COUNTIES IN THE STATE THAT BEEN ELECTED TO DO THIS PILOT, UH, PROGRAM IF SHE CAN COME UP WITH FUNDING TO DO IT.
SO SHE'S ASKED FOR A, UH, A LINE ITEM INCREASE IN HER BUDGET.
SO SHE HAS A, SHE HAS A FAMILY CONSUMER SCIENCE EDUCATION LINE ITEM
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OF A THOUSAND DOLLARS A YEAR THAT Y'ALL DON'T FUND A THOUSAND.SHE'S ASKING TO DOUBLE THAT 2000.
AT THE END OF MARCH, SHE'D ONLY SPENT 1 34 63.
WHERE ARE WE ON IT NOW? AND I MEAN, I CAN'T ACCESS THAT.
SHE, SHE JUST, UM, LOT SUPPLIES PURCHASED IN.
WE'VE BEEN HAVING WORK THROUGH THE PO I KNOW SHE JUST PURCHASED A LOT OF SUPPLIES AND SO FOR SOME THEY SHOULD HAVE
THEY HAD NOT SPENT, BUT THAT 134 THAT THEY JUST SPENT ALMOST A HUNDRED, 650.
THAT LATEST FIGURE IS PRETTY UP TO DATE.
SO THAT'S PRETTY MUCH THE INCREASES.
GENTLEMEN, YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU'D LIKE TO CLEAR UP OR ANNOUNCE TIME ASK? I MEAN, WE'RE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, EVERYBODY WANTS, WE'RE PERSONAL WITH THIS.
AND, AND I KNOW VERY AWARE THAT THIS COUNTY PROBABLY FUNDS OUR EXTENSION SERVICE ABOUT AS MUCH VERY WELL.
YOU KNOW, WELL OUR, WE ARE VERY APPRECIATIVE COUNTY.
THIS COUNTY HAS BEEN VERY GENEROUS TO EXTENSION SERVICE.
WE TRY TO TRY TO, WE TRY TO MANAGE MONEY AS WELL AS WE CAN.
AND, UH, UH, BUT, BUT YOU ARE GENEROUS TO, SO, AND THAT BEING SAID, HAVE YOU LOOKED AT ANY AREAS THAT PERHAPS YOU COULD CUT BACK? OTHER THAN ONE THAT WE HAVE? WE'VE LOOKED AT ALL THE AREAS.
I I WE WILL GIVE YOU BACK THIS YEAR.
WE'RE, WE'RE GOING TO PROBABLY GIVE YOU BACK OUT OF COUNTY NUMBER ONE.
I'M NOT GONNA GO TO MY CONVENTION THIS YEAR.
UH, AND THE MONEY I NORMALLY SPEND TO GO TO THAT CONVENTION, I'M NOT GONNA SPEND IT.
UH, THAT, THAT, THAT IS AN AREA THAT, UH, THAT WE HAVE KIND OF DISCRETION ON.
BUT I, I CAN'T GO TO THAT THIS YEAR.
SO, I MEAN, I, I NORMALLY LIKE TO GO TO THE CONVENTION, GIVES ME LOTS OF GOOD PROGRAMMING IDEAS FOR THE YEARS.
A GOOD PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPMENT THING, BUT I CAN'T MAKE IT THIS YEAR.
I'M, UH, I'LL SAY ON ONE OTHER NOTE, UH, AND I DIDN'T PUT IN HERE, UH, Y'ALL PROBABLY KNOW THAT WE ARE REDOING THE GARDENS OUT AT THE SOUTH CAMPUS OUT THERE.
LOOKS TERRIBLE NOW HOPING STAR PERP GRASSES GENEROUSLY ARE GOING TO DONATE US SOME GRASS TO REDO THOSE GARDEN.
WE'RE HOPEFULLY WE GONNA PUT IT DOWN FRIDAY.
IF THEY CAN GET GET IN CUT, GET TOO WET, GET GRASS OUT.
UH, WE HAVE THOUGHT ABOUT THE REST OF THE BUILDING, UH, WHERE THAT GARDEN IS NOT, YOU KNOW, WHERE IT'S JUST PLAIN WEEDS IN THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING.
MY MASTER GARDEN HAD COME UP WITH A PLAN FOR THAT.
UH, IF WE BUY THE PLANTERS AND STUFF LIKE THAT, KIND OF GOING AND DRESS THAT PART UP, WE WANNA INCLUDE THIS ON MY BUDGET DUTY.
BUT, UH, Y'ALL MIGHT THINK LATER ON IF Y'ALL WANNA ADDRESS THAT BUILDING UP RIGHT NOW, THEY HAVE IT IN THEIR MIND ABOUT 1215.
SO I KNOW COSMETICALLY WHAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT.
WELL, WE GOT SANDY STALLMAN DAUGHTER HAPPENS TO BE A LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT AND SHE'S, YOU NEED TO GET ADE GIVE A FANTASTIC DONATION WITH THE DOG.
THIS ADE DONATED HIS, UH, TRACK COAT FOR ME TO GO OUT THERE AND DO WORK PRETTY GOOD FOR HIM.
HE DID GIMME HIS TRACK COAT ANYTIME I WANTED.
I REAL QUICK, I WANT SAY IT COMES INTO MY WIFE'S CLASSROOM IS KINDERGARTEN DOES THE EGG DEAL EVERY YEAR.
IT'S A BIG HIT WITH EVERYBODY.
SO I GUESS IT'S THE SAME TYPE OF STUFF THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.
THAT'S OUR CLASSROOM COMPASSION.
SO YEAH, THE AG HATCH IN THE CLASSROOM HAPPENS WITH A LOT OF OUR, IT CROSSES A LOT OF OUR, AND WE'RE VERY FORTUNATE WE HAVE A LOT OF CHICKENERS IN THE, YEAH.
SO IF Y'ALL NEED CHICKENS NEXT YEAR ABOUT SEPTEMBER, OCTOBER, THEN APRIL, MARCH WE HAVE SURPLUS OF CHICKENS.
CHICKENS WANTS TWO DOZEN I THINK CHICKENS, BACKYARD, POULTRY.
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JUST KIND OF TAKING INFORMATION NOW.WE'RE GONNA GO BACK AND REVIEW ALL OF THESE REQUESTS.
I NORMALLY GO, I NORMALLY COME AFTER THE SHERIFF FOR SOME WEIRD REASON FOR 17 YEARS.
HE'S DONE GOT ALL THE MONEY OUT.
YEAH, HE'S UH, HE'S OUT OUT OF POCKET THIS WEEK, SO WE'RE GONNA BE TALKING WITH HIM NEXT.
SO I THINK THAT'S CONTEMPT IN COURT.
I'M NOT SURE WHETHER YOUR BREAK IS, UH, YOU MIGHT, UH, IF YOU CALL OR YOU WANNA I JUST TOLD HIM, JUDGE.
YES, WE HAVE ONE HERE THAT'S AT TWO O'CLOCK IF YOU WANT TO CALL ALREADY HERE.
WHAT THEY SAYING NOW? GETTING AROUND A LITTLE SLOW 10 MINUTES EARLY.
ALRIGHT, ROBERT, YOU'VE GIVEN US YOUR I WHEN TURNED IN.
I KNOW YOU ARE PRETTY GOOD THOUGH.
I KNOW ROBERT FOREMAN THIS MORNING.
SO IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE OFFICE MEMORANDUM, I PUT TOGETHER THE FOLLOWING REQUEST FOR THE BATTERY SERVICE OFFICE.
UH, NOT TOO MUCH DIFFERENT ITEM ONE, WHICH IS OUR OFFICE SUPPLIES.
I ASKED FOR THAT TO BE INCREASED BY $100, BUT THEN I TURNED AROUND IN THE LINE ITEM TWO THERE ON THAT MEMORANDUM THAT I PROVIDED AND ASKED TO DECREASE THE BOOK OF THE, UH, UH, DUES AND MEMBERSHIP FEES BY THAT SAME $100.
SO REALLY DON'T CHANGE IN IN THE OVERALL MONEY THERE.
UM, ADDITIONALLY, I HAD ASKED FOR US TO CREATE A NEW LINE ITEM FOR INFORMATION AND TECHNOLOGY.
UH, THERE'S A PROGRAM I SPOKE WITH, UH, JUDGE WOOD ABOUT A WEEK OR SO AGO.
THERE'S A PROGRAM THAT WILL ALLOW US TO UM, BASICALLY INPUT ALL OF THE VETERANS INFORMATION INTO THE COMPUTER AS WE'RE DOING OUR INTAKE INTERVIEW.
AND THEN IMMEDIATELY AFTER THAT, ANY FORM THAT MAY NEED TO BE GENERATED SO THAT UH, HE NEEDS TO REQUEST A CLAIM OR A COMPENSATION THAT FORM IS STORED IN THAT PROGRAM AND IT SELF POPULATES A GREAT DEAL OF THAT INFORMATION.
UH, MOST CLAIMS WHEN I FILL OUT A CLAIM, IT'S GONNA BE ANYWHERE FROM FOUR TO FIVE FORMS. ONE OF THOSE FORMS WOULD BE 10 PAGES.
AND YOU'RE PUTTING SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBERS FIRST PLACE FULL NAMES ON ALMOST EVERY PAGE.
SO IT CAN CERTAINLY REDUCE THE AMOUNT OF TIME THE VETERAN HAS TO SIT IN THE OFFICE TO SEEK THAT HELP.
THEREBY INCREASING THE AMOUNT OF TIME WE HAVE TO SERVE OTHER VETERANS.
UM, AFTER TURNING THIS IN, I WAS UH, RECOMMENDED TO SPEAK TO MR. YORK TO SEE IF THIS WASN'T SINCE THIS PROGRAM WAS SO GOOD, IF IT WASN'T SOMETHING THAT HE COULD POSSIBLY MAKE HAPPEN THIS YEAR, INSTEAD OF WAITING, I SPOKE WITH HIM.
UM, HE HAS SPOKEN WITH THE INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY STERLING SOLUTIONS.
HE HAS DOWNLOADED THEIR CHILD PROGRAM AND THE LAST TIME HE SPOKE TO ME, HE SAID THAT HE THOUGHT HE COULD MAKE ALL THAT HAPPEN THIS YEAR.
SO IT MAY NOT NEED TO BE A BUDGET ITEM FOR NEXT YEAR, UM, AT ALL.
UH, OTHER THAN A MAINTENANCE, WHICH I ALSO LEARNED COMES OUTTA IT'S BUDGET, UH, ON A YEARLY BASIS.
SO I DON'T NEED TO REQUEST A $500 A YEAR MAINTENANCE FEE.
SO JUST PUT THAT ON HOLD UNTIL YOU FIND OUT ABOUT IT.
I KNOW IT'S A MUCH NEEDS PROGRAM AND THERE WILL CERTAINLY HAVE YOU IN WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO DO.
THERE'S OTHER, THERE WAS OTHER THINGS IN THERE.
I'M CURRENTLY USING A SCANNER, UM, THAT, UH, WAS SOMEBODY ELSE'S AT ONE TIME THAT WE PUT IN PLACE THAT DOESN'T DO VERY CLEAN SCANS.
UH, IT'S NO LONGER, IT'S CONSIDERED A WHAT? I DON'T WANNA SAY OBSOLETE 'CAUSE IT STILL GOES SCANS, IT'S JUST NOT SCANNING CLEAN COPY.
UM, IT'S UM, IT'S NOT THE UPTODATE MODEL, NOT THE MOST TOP, UH, WHAT DO THEY CALL THAT? NOT OBSOLETE, NO LONGER IN USE.
WE HAVE THE MONEY LEFT IN, IN THAT PURCHASED FOR EQUIPMENT FOR REPLACE THAT YOU SHOULD BECAUSE IT'S, THAT'S NOT A VERY EXPENSIVE THEY DOLLARS.
THOSE LITTLE I TRIED TO GIVE, I THOUGHT I HAD AN EXTRA ONE IN OUR OFFICE, BUT WE DID NOT.
WHY DON'T YOU SEE IF HAVE AN ISSUE? I DON'T.
I SAID SO THAT A AMOUNT SHOULD BE FINE.
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OKAY.SO, AND THEN THE LAST ITEM, UH, THAT I HAD PUT ON THERE WHEN I DID MY INTERVIEW, UH, WITH THE PANEL OF LIKE FIVE TO SIX PEOPLE, WE DISCUSSED, UM, THE POSSIBILITY OF ME GETTING INVOLVED WITH THE VETERANS PARK, UH, AND TAKING OVER SOME OF THE RESPONSIBILITIES AND POSSIBLY ALLOWING SOME OF THOSE GENTLEMEN THAT HAVE BEEN DOING IT FOR A REALLY LONG TIME, STEP BACK AND PHASE OUT PLACE.
UM, AND WHAT WAS SAID WAS, IS THAT AT THAT TIME YOU COULD GET INVOLVED WITH THE PARK FOR NOW AND THEN IN BUDGET TIME WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO SEE ABOUT CREATING SOME TYPE OF FUND FOR THAT.
AND SO NOT ONLY HAVE I GOTTEN INVOLVED WITH THE PARK PRETTY MUCH KIND OF TOOK IT OVER A LITTLE BIT.
THE, UH, WE HAVE DONE A GREAT NUMBER OF THINGS ALREADY TO THE PARK THIS YEAR.
WE JUST HAD THE FIRST CEREMONY, UH, DURING MY TERM, UM, MR. COUNTRYMAN MC THAT THIS YEAR.
AND, UH, THAT WAS SO THAT I COULD KIND OF SEE HOW HIS PROGRAM HAS GONE.
UH, AND HE KIND OF HAD A LITTLE CANNED CEREMONY.
AND THEN NEXT YEAR I WILL RUN, I'LL SEE THE CEREMONY AND MAKE ANY ADDITIONS OR SUBTRACTIONS TO THE CEREMONY AS AS SEE FIT.
UM, MR. RAYMOND IS STILL VERY INVOLVED WITH THE PARK.
IN FACT, JUST THIS MORNING, UH, HE BROUGHT ME A LOT OF INFORMATION ABOUT OUR TANK SO THAT I KNOW WHAT WE HAVE AND WHERE WE GOT IT, HOW WE GOT IT.
BECAUSE I AM IN THE PROCESS OF RESEARCHING HOW TO GET A HELICOPTER FLYOVER, WHICH, OR LANDING, WHICH IS VIRTUALLY ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE AFTER NINE 11, BUT NOT IMPOSSIBLE.
AND UH, ALSO THERE'S, IN THE INITIAL DESIGN OF THE PARK, THERE WAS A, UH, ONE MODEL HELICOPTER KIND OF ON A PEDESTAL AS PART OF IT.
AND I GUESS THAT HAS BEEN, UM, A LONG TIME DESIRE OF THE, THE OLDER COMMITTEE THAT WAS IN CHARGE OF THE PARK.
AND OF COURSE, ME BEING A FLIGHT MEDIC FOR MOST OF MY CAREER, I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE A HELICOPTER IN THE PARK.
SO I AM RESEARCHING THAT AND TRYING TO FIND OUT WHO WE NEED TO CONTACT AND, AND WHAT STEPS WE HAVE TO PLACE OR TAKE TO GET, UH, ON A WAITING LIST IF THAT'S THE CASE.
UH, NEW RULES ARE IN PLACE WITH THAT STUFF AS WELL, THOUGH YOU NO LONGER GET OWNERSHIP OF THAT ITEM, SO YOU BASICALLY GET IT LOANED TO YOU FOR THE DURATION OF YOUR CAR.
BUT IF FOR SOME REASON THE COUNTY WORKS TO DISBAND, THEY WORK IN AMP COUNTY.
I DON'T KNOW HOW THEY WORK THEIRS.
UM, I HAVE THAT GENTLEMAN'S NUMBER THOUGH.
HE'S YET TO GET BACK IN TOUCH WITH ME AND, UH, I WANT TO BE PUSHY BUT NOT OBNOXIOUS.
SO I, I TEND TO GIVE HIM A COUPLE OF DAYS BEFORE I SET THAT HELICOPTER DOES.
AND, AND THE, THEY HAVE THERE, THERE'S A PLANE IN TEXARKANA, TEXAS, AN ARMY SURPLUS STORE HAS A PLANE NOW FRONT OF PP FOUR, I BELIEVE.
UM, AND I ACTUALLY CALLED HIM IN AN ARMY SURPLUS STORE.
WOULD YOU BE WILLING TO GET RID OF IT? AND, UH, HE WILL NOT.
HOWEVER, IN THE NEXT MONTH OR SO HE PLANS TO PURCHASE TWO PT 20 TWOS, UH, WHICH WERE THE TRAINING MODEL AIRPLANE FOR THAT GEN, THAT, THAT TIMEFRAME.
UH, AND HE SAID THAT HE WOULD BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO, AFTER HE BOUGHT THE TWO, HE WOULD BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO ALLOW US TO PROCURE ONE.
UM, AND HE WOULD LET ME KNOW WHAT THE ANTICIPATED COST OR WHAT THE ACTUAL COST WAS.
BUT HE ANTICIPATED THAT THOSE COSTS WOULD BE SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 10 AND $15,000 FOR THOSE PLANES.
WELL, WE CAN PROCURE ANYTHING WE WANT IF WE'RE WILLING TO PAY LIKE THE AUCTION PRICES, HE'S GETTING HIS THROUGH AN AUCTION, THEY'RE GOING TO TAKE WORK TO RESTORE.
BUT I DO KNOW A GUY AND I'M GONNA, I'M GONNA CONTACT HIM AND SEE IF HE CAN HELP YOU.
YEAH, I REALLY DO KNOW SOMEBODY.
JUDGE, WE HAD TALKED ABOUT, UM, IN THE GENERAL GOVERNMENT DEPARTMENT, 4 0 9, WE HAVE A LINE ITEM FOR THE VETERANS MEMORIAL PARK.
WE WERE TALKING WITH ROBERT ABOUT MOVING IT INTO HIS IDEA BECAUSE THE PROBLEM WITH IT BEING IN THE 4 0 9, NOBODY'S REALLY OVER IT.
WHEN EVERYBODY, HE JUST BRINGS INVOICES AND SAY PAY.
AND BEFORE THE PRIOR TREASURER, WE JUST SIGN OFF OF IT AND WE WRITE CHECK.
IT'S LIKE 4,000, I BELIEVE IT'S FIVE.
IT SHOULD BE UNDER THE VETERAN SERVICE AND THAT WAY HE WOULD SIGN OFF ON THE STUFF.
KEEP A LITTLE, ESPECIALLY ESPECIALLY SINCE YOU'RE TAKING CARE OF IT'S OKAY.
WHAT WERE YOU LOOKING AT IN THE WAY OF THE SUPPLEMENT SCHEME? DID Y'ALL TALK FOR A, UH, AMOUNT OR ANYTHING OR SUPPLEMENT FOR HIM TO BE, AND I DON'T KNOW THAT WE OUGHT TO CARRY AS A SUPPLEMENT, JUST MAYBE CARRIED AS PART OF HIS, UH, SOUR SALARY.
AND WE DISCUSSED IT WITH HIM WHEN THEY STARTED.
WE WANTED HIM NEVER DISCUSSED.
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DIDN'T KNOW.I DIDN'T KNOW HE WAS GONNA SHOW UP SO BAD HE WAS GONNA BE RUNNING IT, BUT THAT'S OKAY.
I MEAN, UH, I'M GONNA SAY ONE THING AND I STILL ALWAYS CONTENT.
I WANTED PEOPLE TO BE ABLE TO TELL ME WHO THE VETERANS OFFICER WAS OF OUR COUNTY BECAUSE THE OTHER MEN ARE NOBODY EVEN HAD ONE.
I ALREADY HAD SO MANY COMPLIMENTS PEOPLE AND I HAVE TALK TALKING ABOUT HIM.
I'M, I'VE REALLY BEEN HAPPY HE'S DONE THIS ABOUT EVERYTHING I'VE ASKED.
THEY'RE ON OUR WALL THERE THAT GETS PEOPLE OUT.
YOU HAVE ONE, YOU AIN'T BEEN TO MY PLACE.
NO, YOU DID SPECIFICALLY SAID NOT PEOPLE DID NOT FOLLOW CORRECTIONS.
BOY, THEY GONNA BE, AND YOUR SCANNERS ORDERED THE HELICOPTER NEXT.
HOW MUCH MONEY? UH, LET US, LET US LOOK AT THE SUPPLEMENT AND UH, OR THE SALARY PART OF IT WHENEVER WE WE'RE REALLY NOT DOING MUCH ON SALARIES OR ANYTHING TODAY.
BUT ONE OTHER THING THAT I DID WANT MENTION TO THE COURT, I, YOU KNOW, AT ONE TIME, UH, AND JACKIE AND STEVE WILL REMEMBER THIS, WE PERSON THAT WAS OUR VEHICLE, UH, MANAGER, OUR, I FORGET WHAT WE CALLED HIM FLEET MANAGER? FLEET FLEET MANAGER.
AND THAT KIND OF WENT BY THE WAYSIDE BECAUSE IT JUST DIDN'T WORK THERE.
SO I'VE SHOWN THAT TO ROBERT, JUST FOR HIM TO LOOK OVER THE THING AND SEE IF THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING THAT HE COULD HANDLE.
AND THAT PROBABLY WOULD BE A SUPPLEMENT, UH, YOU KNOW, UH, AT SOME POINT IN TIME.
I KNOW WHETHER YOU GOT A CHANCE TO REVIEW THAT OR NOT.
I FIGURED HE HAD SO I KNOW WHAT YOUR THOUGHTS ON HE'S NOT DOING ANYTHING ELSE.
YEAH, WELL THERE, I THINK WITH THAT PROGRAM WE NEED TO HAVE SOME TYPE OF, A REALLY DEFINED ROLE AND RESPONSIBILITY FOR IT SO THAT I KNOW WHAT'S TRULY EXPECTED OF ME.
UM, YOU KNOW, COMING INTO THE VETERAN SERVICE OFFICE, I KNEW WHAT INDIVIDUALS WANTED, BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY, I KNEW WHAT THE OVERALL PROGRAM WAS ABOUT.
AND I READ THOSE POLICIES THAT YOU PROVIDED ME.
UH, THE ONE POLICY IS ABOUT 12 PAGES AND THE DESIGNATED FLEET MANAGER IS ONLY MENTIONED IN THREE PARAGRAPHS ON PAGE SEVEN, PAGE EIGHT, PAGE NINE.
UM, AND IT DOESN'T REALLY STATE WHAT IT IS THEY DO OTHER THAN IF SOMEBODY WRECKS A VEHICLE AFTER THEY GO THROUGH HR, AFTER THEY GO THROUGH PURCHASING, I MAKE A REPORT TO GIVE TO YOU ABOUT IT.
WE ALREADY KNOW ABOUT IT AND RIGHT.
AND BY THE TIME IT GETS THERE, IT'S ALREADY DONE.
UM, I DID FOLLOW UP WITH MS. LISA AS YOU HAD ASKED ME TO.
UM, I DON'T, THERE'S, THERE'S NOT ANYTHING, UM, CLAYTON DOESN'T HAVE ANYTHING.
UM, FROM THAT I CAN LOOK AT THAT, WHAT, WHAT PROGRAM HE HAD, UH, WHAT HE WAS DOING, WHAT IT ENTAILED.
AND UM, WAS SPEAKING WITH MS. LISA, I THINK, UH, RIGHT NOW, UH, THE MAJOR FUNCTIONS OF, UH, THE FLEET ITSELF THAT IS PURCHASING, PROCUREMENT AND THEN DIS MANAGEMENT, WHICH IS HANDLED BY MS. LISA AND THAT DEPARTMENT.
AND THEN INSURANCE, WHICH IS HANDLED THROUGH HR.
SO THAT'S NOT SOMETHING, UM, I ASKED ABOUT VEHICLE SERVICING.
UM, YOU KNOW, MAYBE WE DO VEHICLE SERVICING, BUT REGISTRATION AND ALL THAT COMES TO DO PURCHASING AND THEN SHE SENDS IT TO THEM.
AND THE POLICY THAT YOU GAVE ME CLEARLY STATES THAT THOSE INDIVIDUALS ARE RESPONSIBLE TO SERVICE THEIR VEHICLES.
I MEAN, I WANT, WELL NEED TO, WHEN WE ADOPTED THAT Y'ALL, Y'ALL HAD THAT WAS, WE DIDN'T, WE DIDN'T DO IT.
WE, WE HAD A POLICY, THE IDEA WAS TO, WE HAD SOME VEHICLES THAT NOBODY KNEW WHERE THEY WERE.
UH, THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN SOLD AND IT PROBABLY HAD BEEN CLEANED UP A GREAT DEAL SINCE THEN.
I THINK INVENTORY'S IN BETTER SHAPE NOW.
BUT WE HAD VEHICLES THAT WERE, THAT WERE PARKED AT GARAGES, UH, OUT IN THE COUNTY THAT HAD TREES GROWING UP IN THAT WERE OUR VEHICLES, YOU KNOW, THEY WERE PAYING INSURANCE PREMIUMS ON SOME OF 'EM.
WE WERE NOT ALL, BUT SOME OF 'EM WE WERE, WE ALSO HAD THAT WE WERE DRIVING THAT WERE UNINSURED.
AND WE ALSO HAD VEHICLES THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE ANYMORE THAT WE WERE PAYING INSURANCE ON.
THAT MAY HAVE BEEN CLEANED UP ENOUGH NOW, I'M NOT SURE.
WELL WE COUNTED FOR PROPERTY VEHICLES COMING UP.
SO WE'LL KNOW SOON HOW WE'RE DOING ON THAT.
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AND IT MAY BE SOMETHING WE DON'T EVEN NEED TO DO RIGHT NOW.IT MAY NOT BE WHERE, WHERE Y'ALL PUT INTO PLACE FOR, UM, ANYTIME SOMEONE ASKS FOR VEHICLES THAT YOU WANT VEHICLES IN RETURN TO BE ABLE TO AUCTION OFF.
A LOT OF THAT HAS HELPED A LOT RATHER THAN HAVING ONE THAT THOSE KEEP OUT BACK TO CANALIZE AND WE NEVER REALLY KNOW ABOUT IT.
COMMUNICATION IS BAD IN THAT AREA WHEN THE VEHICLE IS IN.
YEAH, IT HAS, WELL ANYWAY, THAT JUST KEEP THAT KIND THINKING CAP AND I APPRECIATE YOU STUDYING AND LIKE YOU DID.
AND IT MAY BE THAT WE DON'T NEED THAT OR THERE MAY BE NEED TO BE SOME OVERSIGHT FROM MAYBE THE OTHER POLICIES THAT WE HAVE IN PLACE NOW ARE TAKEN CARE OF.
SO, AND THEN EVEN ON THE, YOU KNOW, THE OTHER THING WITH THE PARK, THE PARK IS SO CLOSELY RELATED.
IT'S A VETERAN'S PARK, IT'S SO CLOSELY RELATED TO, YOU KNOW, THE OTHER THAT YOU MIGHT JUST EXPAND THE DUTIES AND RESPONSIBILITIES OF THE VETERAN SERVICE OFFICER TO ENCOMPASS THAT.
SO THAT 12 YEARS FROM NOW WHEN I RETIRE, OR 13 YEARS FROM NOW WHEN I RETIRE, THE NEXT PERSON HE WILL, UM, HE OR SHE WILL AUTOMATICALLY JUST HAVE TO TAKE OVER THAT AS PART OF IT INSTEAD OF HAVING TO HOLD THAT SOMEBODY WILL ALLOW THAT TO FALL.
THAT'S, THAT THERE, THAT PART NEEDS QUITE A BIT OF WORK.
WE STARTED, UM, LIKE I SAID, WE PAINTED THE TANK.
UM, THE, THE WALL IS IN COULD, THERE'S, THERE'S SEVERAL PLACES I HAVE BUSTED WELLS.
WE HAVE SOMEBODY PUT RIVETS IN IT AND THEY COVERED THAT UP WITH MAROON PAINT, UM, WHERE THEY MADE A TEMPORARY REPAIR AND THEN THAT TEMPORARY REPAIR HAS FAILED.
UM, SO I DID NOT AT THE TIME BECAUSE THAT ONE LINE ITEM FOR THE VETERANS PARK WASN'T UNDERNEATH ME.
UM, BUT I WOULD ANTICIPATE IF WE MOVE THAT THERE AND I CAN SUBMIT PAPERWORK LATER.
BUT, UM, THE, EACH OF THOSE MONUMENTS CARRIES ABOUT AN EIGHT TO 10 YEAR SHELF LIFE BEFORE THEY NEED TO BE RESURFACED, REFINISHED, REFURBISHED, WHATEVER HAVE YOU.
MOST OF OUR MONUMENTS OUT THERE ARE ALREADY AT THAT EIGHT TO NINE OR 10 OR 11 YEARS OLD.
AND YOU WALK THROUGH THE PARK, UM, AND YOU CAN TRULY SEE THE FLAG POLES THEMSELVES.
ALL OF THE TRUCKS ON TOP OF THE FLAG POLES ARE BROKEN.
UM, SO YOU ARE NOT, YOUR FLAGS ARE NOT WAVING AS THEY SHOULD.
UM, I ALREADY HAVE SOMEBODY WORKING ON GETTING THAT REPAIRED.
UM, THE BASE FOR THE UNITED STATES FLAG HAS, UM, AND I KNOW ALL OF YOU HAVE BEEN OUT THERE, BUT THERE'S MARBLE OR GRANITE ON EACH SIDES OF THE BASE.
AND THOSE MARBLES AND GRANITES HAVE ALL STARTED TO DO THIS NUMBER VISTA CAULKING THAT RUNS BETWEEN THEM HAVE ALL STARTED TO SEPARATE.
UH, MR. RAYMOND TOLD ME THAT NOT TOO, TOO LONG AGO, ONE OF THOSE ACTUALLY FELL BROKE AND HAD TO BE REPLACED.
AND I KNOW THAT REPLACING IT COSTS US FAR MORE MONEY THAN TRYING TO KEEP IT FROM FALLING.
SO THERE'S SEVERAL THINGS THAT TANK WAS STEP ONE, GETTING IT PAINTED.
BUT UM, YOU KNOW, I'M SURE THAT WE'LL PROBABLY AT SOME POINT IN TIME, IF IT HAS TO BE NEXT YEAR WHEN WE DO BUDGETS AGAIN OR WHATEVER HAVE YOU.
BUT, UM, WE'LL WANT TO START TRYING TO DO AT LEAST ONE OR TWO OF THOSE MONUMENTS EVERY YEAR.
AND WE'LL PROBABLY, EVEN THOUGH I'M SHOOTING BIG, JUST 'CAUSE I'D RATHER BE BIG THAN SMALL, BUT I MEAN, I GOTTA THINK TO REPAIR THAT WALL'S GONNA COST A LOT MORE MONEY THAN I'M APPROVED TO JUST SPEND IT ONE TIME THAT'S GONNA GO THROUGH.
SO, BUT THAT'S JUST FOOD FOR THOUGHT.
I THINK THERE'S ONLY ONE WAY TO DO IT.
YOU KNOW, I WAS GOING TO SUGGEST AFTER HEARING THE RESIDENT OFFICER TALK ABOUT HIS, UH, MEMORIAL SERVICE, THE JUDGE PER YOU IN FOR THAT NEXT HE CAN.
WE'RE GONNA DO IT FROM THE HELICOPTER THAT MS. LISA ADVISED ME.
UH, I'M ASKING FOR NO CHANGES.
UH, THE ONLY POSSIBLE THING WOULD BE A COURT REPORTER'S SALARY ISSUE.
WE HAVE A HEARING A WEEK FROM THURSDAY SETTING AUDITORS, ASSISTANT AUDITORS AND COURT REPORTER SALARY.
SO IF YOU'LL, WE HAVE THE PUBLIC HEARING, NO DECISION WILL BE MADE ON THOSE SALARIES.
BUT, UH, WE HAVE REQUESTED NO SALARY INCREASES
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AT THIS POINT IN OUR BUDGET.IN FACT, WE'VE ASKED FOR NO CHANGES IN ANY LINE ITEM ON OUR BUDGET.
DID WE, DID WE, UH, APPROVE, I'M TRYING TO FIND IT HERE.
A PRETTY SIGNIFICANT INCREASE FACTOR FOR THE COURT REPORTER.
THE COURT REPORTER'S ALL GOT A 10% INCREASE LAST YEAR.
HOW DOES THAT STACK WITH, UH, THE OTHERS BASED ON THE HEARING LAST YEAR? JUDGE? UH, I THINK OUR REPORTERS ARE STILL SLIGHTLY BELOW, UH, COMPARABLE COUNTIES IN THE AREA.
ELLIS, UH, HUNT ROCKWALL, UH, VAN Z PROBABLY IS THE ONLY EXCEPTION TO THAT.
WHAT ABOUT COUNTY WAY BELOW HOUSE? COUNCILMAN YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? NO, NO, NO.
AND JUDGE WILEY AND I DIDN'T KNOW THAT.
I DIDN'T KNOW TO SAY THAT BECAUSE I WASN'T SURE.
JUST DOING HOW YOU GUYS DOING.
YOU'RE, WHEREVER YOU SIT, UM, WHERE YOU SIT.
ONE THING WE JUST, ONE THING WE'RE LOOKING AT ON OUR OFFICE SUPPLIES IS WE'VE GOT AN INCREASE, I GUESS IN PERSONNEL WITH, UH, EVEN COLLECTION HAS THEIR LOAN LINE ITEM.
JUST, WE WERE SAYING IT MIGHT MAKE SENSE TO NOT CHANGE ANY OVERALL.
I'M SORRY, KAREN, I DON'T HAVE THAT LOAN ITEM, BUT WE'RE THE, UH, GAS AND OIL SUPPLIES WE SAYING WE IT MAYBE DECREASE THAT BY 2,500 AND MOVE MORE OF THAT TO OFFICE SUPPLY.
SO IT'S, IT'S A, THAT'S A ZERO OUT IF THAT'S NOT A PROBLEM.
UH, THE COLLECTION BUDGET'S FINE.
UM, WE HAD TALKED INFORMALLY TO A COUPLE OF YOU GUYS AND SO THIS KIND OF BRING IT UP REGARDING THE SALARIES OR ANYTHING ON PART-TIME.
WE DON'T HAVE PART-TIME WHILE WE'RE THINKING ABOUT PART-TIME AS WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT SOME THINGS IN EXECUTIVE, BUT I THINK SOME THINGS THAT ARE PUBLIC NOW IS IF WE END UP HAVING TO DO LITIGATION, I THINK WE NEED TO EARMARK SOME MONEY TO HELP US OUT DURING THAT TIME WITH A CIVIL ATTORNEY ON A PART-TIME BASIS.
IF WE DON'T GET THAT FAR AFTER SOME SETTLEMENT ISSUES, WE'LL KNOW THAT BEFORE THIS BUDGET ISSUE.
SO THAT'S KIND OF JUST IN JUST IN OUR, IF WE NEED TO, WE'LL ASK.
JUST, I MEAN, SO LIKE I SAID, THAT WAS JUST SOMETHING WAS TALKED ABOUT.
WE, WE HAD SAID 30,000 IF BE A PART-TIME PERSON, I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT WOULD WORK TO HIRE, YOU KNOW, BUT WE, THAT'S MY PROBLEM.
FIGURE OUT AND GET SOMEBODY TO WORK.
AND IF I WANTED TO GO, WE REALIZED THAT WOULD BE GREAT AND THEY HAD THAT MUCH WORK.
WE MIGHT DECIDE TO KEEP 'EM, BUT AT LEAST TO HAVE THAT.
AND THEN THE OTHER THING THAT'S COME UP MORE RECENT THAT I WASN'T AWARE OF, BUT IT'S GOOD NEWS IS BECAUSE THE PROBATION DEPARTMENT IS GOING TO UTILIZE THE, WHAT I CALL THE OLD LIBRARY, WHICH IS NOT, WELL WE DON'T KNOW AS A COUNTY LIBRARY, BUT ACROSS THE STREET, UH, NEXT TO THE VISITING NURSES I GUESS IS WHAT THAT IS.
WELL, IT'S THERE, IT'S NEXT TO THE, UH, WHAT IS IN, IN THE MIDDLE OF VACANT BUILDING.
IT'S NEXT TO, UH, THE LAWYER LOVE JOAN.
THAT SPACE RIGHT THERE IS WHERE THE PROBATION DEPARTMENT IS SUPPOSEDLY GOING IN OUR, THAT WAS FULL OF FILES, OUR OLD FILES.
AND I HAVE NOT, SINCE I REALIZED THAT LAST WEEK THAT THAT PROCESS IS MOVING REALLY RAPIDLY AHEAD.
SO THAT'S GOOD NEWS, BUT WE NEED TO DIGITIZE THAT.
AND WE, THERE'S SOME FILES THAT GET IN THE WEEDS IN SOME CASES, WHICH YOU CALL 3G THE MOST SERIOUS FELONY OFFENSES.
WE HATE TO AND THINGS WITH UNLIMITED STATUTE LIMIT PATIENTLY STILL LIKE THE OLD FILE BECAUSE SOMETIMES WE'LL FIND THINGS IF SOMEBODY FILES A REP WHO MIGHT NEED IT.
BUT I THINK THE MISDEMEANOR FILES CAN ALL BE SCANNED AND SHREDDED.
SO IT'S A LOT OF WORK OVER THERE.
SO THAT PART-TIME I'LL SAY, WELL THIS WOULD BE ANOTHER THING TO INCREASE THE PART-TIME.
SO I THINK WE'RE, I'M, I THINK I'M ASKING TO DOUBLE THAT TO 60.
I DON'T KNOW IF WE'LL GET TO IT.
I HAVEN'T TALKED TO RHONDA AT ALL ABOUT SHE DID THAT LAST YEAR.
SHE ALSO GOT A GRANT FOR, THAT WAS SOMETHING I THOUGHT ABOUT.
UM, THERE'S SOME GRANT MONEY FOR THOSE.
THOSE AREN'T HISTORICAL RECORDS THOUGH.
THAT'S HOW SHE ABLE TO GET A GRANT.
I DID KNOW THAT HERS WERE HISTORICAL.
IT'S JUST A MATTER OF SOMETHING WE JUST NEED TO MOVE TO.
BUT WE'RE GONNA WORK WITH T AT ANY GROUP WE CAN TO TRY TO FIND OUT IF THERE'S MONEY OR THINGS AVAILABLE.
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GET THINGS PAPER AND WE JUST NEED TO GET IT TO PROCESS BECAUSE WE HAVE TO DO REQUEST.WE HAVE TO COPY PAGES AND PAGES.
SO ONCE WE HAVE THE LABOR TO GET TIMES AND THEN THAT JUST BECOMES A PART OF OUR PROCESS IN THE DA'S OFFICE, IT WOULD BE, IT WORK ITSELF OUT.
IT WON'T, IT'S JUST A TEMPORARY, UM, KIND OF ORDEAL.
BUT ONCE THAT'S DONE, WE NEED A LOT BETTER SHAPE WITH THE FILES WHEN BACKED UP TO THE CLOUD.
SO THOSE ARE ONLY THING Y'ALL DON'T WANNA REALLY INHERENTLY AT THE FIRST MEETING TALK ABOUT SALARIES.
BUT ONE THING I THINK WE'RE MOVING TO MOST OF OUR SALARIES HAVE SALARY RANGES.
I DIDN'T BRING THAT TODAY BECAUSE YOU SAID YOU WANNA TALK ABOUT SALARIES.
I DON'T KNOW IF PEOPLE TALK ABOUT SALARIES.
THE ONLY THING I YOU DO WANNA TALK ABOUT DON'T, WELL WE'RE ON THE, I MEAN DO YOU WANNA TALK ABOUT S YOU CAN GO AHEAD AND DISCUSS JUST SO WE'LL KIND OF HAVE IT IN THE BACKGROUND, BUT WE'RE PROBABLY, WE'RE NOT MAKING ANY DECISIONS TODAY ON SALARY.
SO NEXT YEAR YOU'LL PUT, YOU CAN TALK ABOUT SALARIES.
I MEAN, I'M JUST GETTING CLARIFICATION.
SHE'S ACTUALLY FOLLOWING DIRECTIONS.
WELL ALL I WOULD SAY IS ON THE SALARIES AND IT DEPENDS ON WHAT YOU WANT TO DO.
MOVING TO A RANGE GIVES YOU FLEXIBILITY.
PROBLEM, PROBLEM WITH FUNDING IS FUNDING THE TOP OF THAT RANGE.
AND STILL LOOKING AT WHERE THAT IS.
SO WE HAVE DONE LIKE SALARY SURVEYS, WHICH YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY WE HAVEN'T HIRED A SALARY SURVEY COMPANY.
PULLING COUNTIES OUR SIZE, LOOKING AT WHAT PEOPLE GET PAID, DETERMINING THE NATURE AND THE TYPE OF EMPLOYEE EXEMPT, NON EXEMPT.
'CAUSE YOU NEED A, YOU WANT THAT IN A REPORT.
AND SO WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS MAKING SURE ALL THOSE SALARIES ARRANGED AND WHAT GOES TO THE TOP IS EXPERIENCED.
THE TYPE OF, NO MATTER A PERSON HAS 20 YEAR EXPERIENCE, THEY COME IN AS A MISDEMEANOR PROSECUTOR.
THEY'RE NOT GONNA GET PAID THE SAME AS A FELONY PROSECUTOR.
SO, OR THE CHIEF OF APPELLATE SAY, OR THE CHIEF OF CIVIL.
SO YOU'LL KNOW AND WE'RE LOOKING AT FUNDING THE TOP TO GIVE THAT FLEXIBILITY EVEN THOUGH A LOT OF PEOPLE WON'T BE AT THE TOP OF IT.
SO THAT'S THE ONLY THING I'D SAY BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GOING WITH.
SO YOU'RE NOT LOOKING FOR ADDITIONAL PROSECUTORS HERE? I'M NOT LOOKING FOR ADDITIONAL PROSECUTORS.
I'M LOOKING FOR A PART-TIME CIVIL THIS YEAR.
NO, THE ONLY THING WE MIGHT NEED.
BUT YOU KNOW, HONESTLY, I I I, BECAUSE I ONLY ASK IF I NEED IT IS, BUT BECAUSE IT'S A PART-TIME CHILD ABUSE INVESTIGATOR, Y'ALL GAVE US A CHILD ABUSE PROSECUTOR, I THINK TWO YEARS AGO.
AND HE HAS MADE A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF DIFFERENCE BRINGING A SECOND CIVIL PERSON.
I MEAN WE HAD, JOHN ALWAYS IS PART-TIME.
SO, UH, YOU KNOW, AND THEN REBECCA WAS FULL-TIME.
AND SO HAVING TWO FULL-TIME HAS BEEN GREAT.
SO I, I MEAN IT WOULD BE GREAT TO MAYBE HAVE A CHILD ABUSE PROSECUTOR DEDICATED JUST TO CHILD ABUSE CASES.
'CAUSE THAT IS THE CASE LOAD THAT TAKES THE MOST AMOUNT OF WORK AND WE'RE SPREADING THAT AMONG OTHER PEOPLE BECAUSE CPS DOES THE INVESTIGATION PART OF WELL YEAH.
AND YOU'RE THINKING ON THE CIVIL SIDE.
CPS DOES THE CIVIL WHEN THEY DO THE REMOVAL OF THE CHILDREN.
BUT EVERY CASE WHERE THERE'S CHILD ABUSE OR NOT EVERY CASE THAT'S CORRECT.
MANY OF THE CASES HAVE A CRIMINAL COMPONENT WITH IT.
SO IF YOU HAVE A CHILD THAT'S BEEN REMOVED 'CAUSE OF NEGLECT, WE DON'T GENERALLY FOLLOW THE CHILD ENDANGERMENT CASE.
SO WE DON'T, BUT IF THE CHILD HAS BEEN SEXUALLY ABUSED BY ONE OF THE PARENTS, THAT CHILD WILL BE REMOVED.
AND THE CASEWORK, AS YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH THE SCHOOL SITUATION, WILL INVESTIGATE AND REMOVED.
WE HAVE THAT TO LAW ENFORCEMENT.
THEY'RE GONNA DO THEIR INVESTIGATION AND HAND OUR CASE WORK TO US.
BUT WHO'S GONNA FOLLOW UP WITH GETTING THE EXAM DONE? WHO'S GONNA FOLLOW UP AND MAKE SURE THAT THEY HAVE THE FAMILY THAT COMES TO THE OFFICE.
WE HAVE A VICTIM WITNESS COORDINATOR.
SHIRLEY'S JUST GREAT JOB, BUT SHE'S THE COORDINATOR FOR ALL VICTIMS SERVICES.
SO IF THERE WAS ONE, I MEAN FOR EVERY CASE FOR THE THEFT CASE AS WELL AS THE MURDER CASE AS WELL AS THE MISDEMEANOR CASE WHERE SOMEBODY'S HAD A DRUNK DRIVER.
SO THE CHILD ABUSE JUST TAKES ONE TIME.
NOW I WAS GONNA, MIKE, COME OVER, BUT IF THERE'S ANY POSITION, I MEAN I DON'T KNOW WHERE I WOULD LIVE.
I SURE THAT'S JUST THE NATURE OF WHAT WE'RE, BUT AS FAR AS STAFFING PERHAPS ANOTHER INVESTIGATOR TO DO CHILD ABUSE AND DOUBLE SOME DUTIES WITH OTHER THINGS.
BUT I THINK CASELOAD IS IS ABOUT THE SAME.
YOU MIGHT, UH, JUST, UH, IN YOUR SPARE TIME.
DO LITTLE SURVEY AS FOR YOUR SALARY, WHAT YOU TALKING ABOUT ON THE SALARY RANGE? I STARTED IT AND UH, SOMETIME IN THE NEAR FUTURE AS WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THE BUDGET WE'RE GONNA BE LOOKING AT.
AND LET EXPLAIN ONE OF THE REASONS WE, WE DON'T HAVE A FINAL VALUE YET FROM THE APPRAISAL DISTRICT.
UH, AND SO THAT'S REALLY HARD TO ZERO IN.
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GONNA BE UP BECAUSE OF THE FACT THAT OUR PRELIMINARY VALUES ARE MM-HMMUH, AND THEN, UH, THE OTHER THING IS WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY HAVE DONE TO US AT THE LEGISLATURE.
YOU KNOW, THERE'S, THERE'S INCREASES THERE THAT I'M SURE THERE'S UNFUNDED MANDATES.
THERE ALWAYS ARE THAT WE WIND UP HAVING TO DEAL WITH AND UNTIL THE GOVERNOR ASKING SO LOW THERE SOME THOSE THINGS WE DON'T EVEN KNOW.
AND THEN WE REALLY DON'T KNOW 'CAUSE THEY GOT JULY 18TH.
SO YEAH, WE GOT ON THE SPECIAL SESSION.
WOULD YOU GUYS, AS, AS WE PULL THOSE NUMBERS, 'CAUSE WE'VE STARTED WITH THAT.
DO YOU WANT ME TO EMAIL ALL'S NUMBERS? JUST BRING IT BACK TO THE NEXT SO WE CAN SEE IT, GIVE YOU TIME TO LOOK AT IT BEFORE.
'CAUSE I NEVER MIND ANYBODY HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT IT.
I WOULDN'T MIND HAVING IT EARLY.
WE'LL GET IT TO YOU EARLY BEFORE HURT YOU.
NO, WE JUST COULD BE SENDING IT TO EVERYBODY.
UM, I'LL, I'LL DRILL DOWN A LITTLE BIT ON THAT INVESTIGATOR POSITION AND ASK MIKE, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, ARE WE OKAY WITH IT? BECAUSE IT JUST, IF WE'RE IN TRIAL ON A CASE LIKE THAT, THE ONLY OTHER REASON THAT I THINK ABOUT THE INVESTIGATOR POSITION AND IT'S INTERESTING TO TALK TO, UM, FOR THE SECURITY.
THOSE CASES ARE SO, UM, HIGHLY, UM, CHARGED THAT NOT ONLY THE INVESTIGATOR CALL POLICE TO HAVE A A BODY, THEY'RE THERE, BUT TO HAVE THEM ALWAYS WITH THE CASE.
BECAUSE THE LAST TIME WE HAD ALL THE POLICE, EVERYBODY UP HERE, IT WAS OUR FAMILY THAT WERE THE COMPLAINANT'S FAMILY ACTING OUT.
AND I MEAN WE WERE, THEY WERE ABOUT TO START TUSSLING IN THE BACK WITH US WHEN THE JUDGE DECLARED A MISTRIAL WITH HIS PREROGATIVE.
AND, YOU KNOW, WE'VE SUCCESSFULLY TRIED THAT LATER AND HAD A VERY GOOD OUTCOME.
BUT THERE'S A LOT OF, UM, IT'S, IT IS A, IT'S A, UH, FLASH POINT.
MAY THEY COULD, I MEAN, I'M JUST SAYING THAT'S JUST, IT'S, IT JUST GOES OVER AND OVER AGAIN.
ONE THING YOU MIGHT DO, AND I DON'T KNOW HOW LONG IT'LL TAKE US TO GET THAT YES SIR.
OLD LIBRARY READY TO GO BECAUSE WE HAVE THE HANDICAP RESTROOM SITUATION AND ALL THAT.
BUT I DON'T KNOW WHETHER THERE'S ANY PEOPLE IN YOUR DEPARTMENT THAT COULD WORK IN THERE WITH THE PROBATION DEPARTMENT.
WE COULD PUT UP A WALL OR SOME OR SOMETHING TO, TO BREAK, YOU KNOW, NET UP A LITTLE BIT.
UH, SO YOU NOT JUST THINK ABOUT IT, IT'S, IT'S AIR.
WE GOT EVERYTHING OUT THERE AND WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT USING THE SECOND FLOOR.
IT'S, IT IS PRETTY GOOD SIZE ROOM.
IT'S ALREADY GOT THE AIR CONDITIONING.
I THINK THE CARPET'S IN FAIRLY GOOD SHAPE.
AND IT'S NOT GONNA BE A LONG TERM SOLUTION.
IT'S JUST A BUILDING THAT I DON'T WANT TO SIT THERE A LITTLE DOES CONTINUE TO GO DOWN, YOU KNOW.
UH, LIKE THE OTHER DAY THEY WENT OVER AND FOUND, GOT A LEAK AND SO ON THE ROOF LEAK.
AND SO BOBBY GOT UP THERE AND LO AND BEHOLD WE HAD A, HAD SOME HAIL DAMAGE AND SO I THINK WE'RE GONNA GET THE ROOF REPLACED ON, SO.
BUT ANYWAY, I MEAN IT MIGHT BE A POSSIBILITY.
I DON'T KNOW HOW THEY WOULD INTERACT TOGETHER, YOU KNOW, SO.
I'D TO REWIND ALL THE WAY BACK TO THE CIVIL OKAY.
AND I SAID THAT WHEN WE HAD THAT MEETING.
I THINK, I KNOW I'M DEMANDING MORE OF YOUR TIME OR YOUR TWO CIVIL PEOPLE'S TIME, BUT I THINK EVERYBODY ELSE IS TOO.
AND I THINK AS WE KEEP GROWING IT'S GONNA GET WORSE.
SO WE DO NEED TO PLAN AHEAD FOR SOMETHING, WHETHER IT'S PART-TIME OR WHATEVER, MAYBE GROWS INTO ANOTHER PART TIME.
YOU KNOW, 'CAUSE IF YOU'RE USING THE CIVIL PEOPLE TO DO YOUR CRIMINAL STUFF OR WHATEVER, YOU KNOW, EXTRA STUFF YOU'RE USING IT FOR AND WE'RE TAKING UP ALL THE TIME.
SO IT'S INJUSTICE ON BOTH SIDES.
WELL, AND I, YOU KNOW, I VALUE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING BECAUSE I THINK, UM, AND, AND TELL ME IF I'M MISUNDERSTANDING THAT YOU'RE ACTUALLY SAYING MAYBE DON'T THINK ABOUT IT AS, UH, MAYBE A PART-TIME PERSON TO GO AHEAD AND LOOK AT THAT AS A FULL-TIME, BUT BRING THEM IN, UH, IF NOT COPPER, REBECCA MAYBE HAVE BEEN A NEW HIRE, UH, RIGHT OUTTA LAW SCHOOL.
THEY'RE THEY'RE CHEAPER RIGHT.
OUTTA LAW SCHOOL BECAUSE WE NEED A COMMITMENT TO US.
AND WHEN WE ASK FOR SOMETHING THAT WE'RE GETTING 110% FROM THEM TOO.
AND WHENEVER YOU START STRETCHING 'EM THIN GOING EVERY OTHER WHICH WAY.
AND I, AND ALL I'M TRYING TO BE IS REAL.
I I THINK WE COULD KEEP PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, BUSY ALL THE TIME.
AND, AND WE CERTAINLY DON'T MIND BECAUSE WE HAVE TO HELP AS OUR, AS OUR, UH, STATUTORY RESPONSIBILITY.
EVERYBODY, ALL THE ELECTED DEPARTMENT HEADS THAT IF THEY HAVE QUESTIONS, WE'RE THERE TO ANSWER.
UM, AND THAT'S, THAT'S PART OF OUR JOB.
UH, I JUST DON'T WANNA ASK FOR SOMETHING THAT WE COULD DO.
HALF THE PROBLEM YOU GET WITH A, A KID COMING OUT OF LAW SCHOOL OR ONE OR TWO, YOUR LAWYER THAT'S INTERESTED IN CIVIL, I KNOW HOW I WOULD FEEL WITH A PART-TIME JOB OFFER.
LIKE, WHO WANTS TO DO THAT? SO YOU ARE RIGHT ABOUT THAT.
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'CAUSE KAREN MORE TO MANAGE.I JUST HOPE WE DON'T HAVE CONTINUE WITH LITIGATION, BUT WITH BRO.
AND SO WE HAVE TO PLAN THAT WE ARE.
AND THEN KAREN WOULD BE OBVIOUSLY OVER LITIGATION AND THAT THAT OTHER PERSON, UH, WOULD BE THE POINT PERSON WITH ALL THE OTHER ELECTED.
AND THEN YOU GOT THE COMMISSIONER AND THEN YOU'VE ALWAYS, ALWAYS GOT KAREN TO GO TO OVERSEE THAT.
AND THE ROADS, JUST THE ROADS THEY LEAVE US UP.
WELL, AND WE, AND WE SPEND A LOT OF TIME WITH OTHER PERSONNEL ISSUES AS WELL.
I MEAN, WE WANT TO BE AVAILABLE FOR HR.
I DON'T KNOW IF THEY THINK WE'RE HELPING OR NOT.
WE HELP PURCHASING, WE HELP HR.
WELL, I MEAN WE JUST NEVER REALLY END, WHICH IS GOOD.
AS FAR AS THE CRIMINAL COMPONENT, I THINK WE'RE STAFFED.
BUT I WILL REALLY TAKE EARNESTLY THAT CHILD ABUSE PROSECUTOR AND THE UH, CIVIL POSITION.
LOOK AT THE NUMBERS, LOOK AT THAT.
WHEN WE COME IN WITH THE SALARY RANGE, I'LL INCLUDE THOSE POSITIONS, SEE WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT.
WITH YOUR SALARY SURVEY? YEAH.
UM, I'VE BEEN DOING A LITTLE RESEARCH SO I HAVE SOME ENDS ON THAT AS WELL.
AND I GOT A REQUEST FOR OPEN RECORDS FROM A SALARY SURVEY COMPANY THAT IS DOING PUBLIC RECORD, UH, SALARY SURVEYS AND STUFF.
SO WE CAN, WE CAN LOOK AT THOSE THINGS.
DON'T I HAVE A LOT OF SALARY SURVEY RIGHT HERE? YEAH, WE DID.
AND WHAT WE USUALLY GO IS REBECCA, WHAT COUNTY DOES SHE ALWAYS USE? REBECCA USED, I KNOW SHE USED ELLIS AND SHE USED, WHAT'S THE ONE DOWN THERE? CENTRAL TEXAS.
THAT'S OUR, IS IT RIGHT HERE? WELFARE.
I COME BRAZORIA, I HUNT THOSE.
YOU THOSE ONE PULLING? NO, WE'VE GOT THOSE TWO, BUT WE'LL PUT IT TOGETHER FOR THESE GUYS IN A FORMAT THAT MAKES SENSE.
AND TRY TO FIGURE OUT WHERE WE ARE WITH OUR STUFF.
GIVES ME A PLACE TO DIRECTION TO GO.
WE'RE DOING, UH, WE'RE DOING PRETTY GOOD.
LAURA, DO YOU WANT COME AHEAD AND DO YOUR, BEFORE WE TAKE A BREAK OR TAKE OKAY.
LAURA HAS TWO OR THREE BUDGETS HERE THAT SHE HAS PRESENTED.
THE ONLY THING I'M ASKING IS FOR AN INCREASE IN INDEXING AND REPORTING.
AND THAT BASICALLY IS DRIVEN BY THE INCREASE IN THE NUMBER OF INSTRUMENTS THAT ARE FILED IN OFFICIAL PUBLIC RECORD.
EVERYTHING THAT'S FILED IN OFFICIAL PUBLIC RECORD, ANY SALE PROPERTY, ANYTHING THAT GETS FILED IN MY OFFICE GOES INTO THE OFFICIAL PUBLIC RECORDS.
AND WITH AN INCREASE IN THAT FILING COMES AN INCREASE IN THE INDEXING AND REPORTING COSTS.
AND I KNOW, I THINK I ASKED THIS EVERY YEAR, IT CAN'T BE PAID FOR, I DON'T, ONE OF THE OTHER FUNDS, NO.
UNDER LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE 1 1 8 0 2 1 6, IT SAYS THAT RECORDS RESERVATION THAT NEEDS TO BE USED FOR DOCUMENTS AFTER THEY, UH, FILING AN RECORDING.
SO WE HAVE TO FILE OPEN THE COURT PARTY.
BUT, BUT FOR EVERY DOCUMENT THAT'S FILED, THERE'S MORE THAN, THERE'S MORE THAN ENOUGH MONEY GIVEN TO THE GENERAL FUND.
SO WOULD THIS BE USED FOR, WHAT WOULD THE, WHAT WOULD THE, WHAT DO YOU USE THAT MONEY FOR? THE NEXT THING REPORTING IS WHEN THE DOCUMENTS COME IN.
IF YOU SELL A PIECE OF PROPERTY, THE JT INDEXES YOUR NAME, IT INDEXES HIS NAME, THE DATE, THE NUMBER OF THE REPORTING, THE, THE, UH, PROPERTY THAT'S INFORMATION.
ANYTHING THAT YOU LOOK UP A PIECE OF PROPERTY ON, THAT'S THE INDEX INFORMATION.
BUT I MEAN, IT'S BASED ON FOR ITEM.
AS OF 3 31, WE WERE, WE HAD ALREADY, UH, I BELIEVE SPENT 44,000.
I I THINK WE BUDGETED 80, 83,000.
UH, WE BUDGETED 83,000, WE SPENT 59 642 AS OF TODAY.
AND AS WE GROW, THAT'S GOING TO INCREASE.
AND ATTACHED IS JUST A, SO I WOULD GO AHEAD.
IF EVERYBODY'S OKAY WITH THAT.
I MEAN, THAT'S A SIGN OF THE ROAD COUNTY, SO I DON'T HAVE WITH THAT.
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AND THE OTHER ACCOUNTS, THEY'RE BASICALLY PASS THROUGH ACCOUNTS UM, FUND 42 FUND, UH, THE COUNTY DISTRICT CLERK AND THE RECORDS ARCHIVE, THOSE ARE BASICALLY, THAT'S IN, THAT'S MONEY THAT'S RECEIVED EITHER THE FILING OF A LAND RECORD OR A FILING WITH A CRIMINAL OR CIVIL CASE.AND IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE SET ASIDE BY STATUTE.
UM, SO YOU TAKE IN A HUNDRED THOUSAND, WE BUDGET THE HUNDRED THOUSAND.
SO IF IT COMES IN, IT CAN BE SPENT ON, YOU KNOW, CERTAIN ITEMS THAT ARE VERY WELL DEFINED.
THE SHEET OF THE, IN MY BOOK, THE NEXT SHEET IS PROBATE ON THAT ONE.
AGAIN, THOSE ARE I, AND WELL RIGHT BEHIND THAT IS ANOTHER SHEET.
I KNOW, BUT I THINK SHE SAID NEXT THING.
TELL US ONE IS, UM, 40, FUND 10 AND THE OTHER ONE IS FUND 31.
THE OTHER FUNDS, WHAT WAS LIKE INCLUDED IN THE AUDIT REPORT,
AND BASICALLY ALL WE DID ON THAT ONE WAS JUST TAKE THE SIX MONTHS EXTRAPOLATE 15, 12.
AND I THINK KAREN WILL PROBABLY DO YOU KNOW HER MAGIC ON THAT? MAGIC? PUT IT DOWN.
I SAID WELL SPOKEN OR PLAIN SPOKEN.
EXPLAIN THEN PROBATE EDUCATION.
THAT'S, UH, SEE MIKE ON 2017, THE AD LITUM CASE FEES, THE SECOND LINE ITEM BUDGET, 15 SIX UHHUH.
AND SHE SAYS, WHERE ARE YOU? WHAT ON PROB THE PAGE WITH THE PROBATE ENCY.
THE SECOND ONE ITEM A LITTLE CASE FEES.
SHE'S SAYING REDUCE AT 12 SIX.
AND WE'VE ALREADY SPENT 10,008 50.
SO I'M, WE GOT PART OF THIS MONTH LEFT AND THEN JULY, AUGUST AND SEPTEMBER THAT 12 MIGHT NOT BE ENOUGH.
WELL, I DON'T SEE THESE, THESE BILLS, SO IT'S THE ONLY WAY I COULD BUDGET THIS ACCOUNT WAS TO JUST TAKE THE SIX MONTHS AND YEAH, THAT'S FINE.
I'M JUST SAYING I DON'T WANT YOU TO CUT YOURSELF SHORT ON IT.
THIS IS NOT, I MEAN THIS KIND, I SEE THIS, WELL, LAST, LAST YEAR WAS WHENEVER WE FIRST SET UP ALL THOSE NEW ACCOUNTS AND I HAD TAKEN THEM INTO ACCOUNT TWO OR THREE YEARS WORTH OF THOSE TYPE OF THINGS.
AND SO THOSE NUMBERS WERE, WERE PRETTY SPOT ON FOR A TWO, THREE YEAR PERIOD.
WELL, I KNOW WE PUT IT IN MINE AND I'M LIKE, I DON'T, I DON'T SEE, IT'S JUST BECAUSE I GET A LOT OF, I GET A LOT OF THOSE FROM
THAT'S THE REASON I JUST TOOK THAT.
I THINK Y'ALL NEED TO KINDA LIKE WHAT IT IS.
AND THEN THE PROBATE EDUCATION.
PROBATE EDUCATION IS A UPON, AGAIN, IT'S UM, TAKEN FROM FUNDS COLLECTED IN THE PROBATE AND IT'S USED FOR THE JUDGE AND THE CLERKS TO ATTEND CONFERENCE THIS YEAR.
I HAD ONE ATTEND CONFERENCE IN.
AND THEN THAT RUN ABOUT, ARE WE RUNNING IT PRETTY CLOSE TO THAT? YES SIR.
AND THEN THE RECORDS MANAGEMENT, WE COLLECT $10 FOR EVERY DOCUMENT THAT'S FILED FOR RECORDS MANAGEMENT FUND AND RECORDS ARCHIVE.
AND THIS IS TO BE USED FOR THE PRESERVATION AND AUTOMATION OF THE RECORDS THAT THE COUNTY CLERK HANDLES.
UM, I KNOW COMING UP WE'RE LOOKING AT SOFTWARE AND EQUIPMENT FOR THE COMMISSIONER'S COURTROOM DOWNSTAIRS SO THAT WE'LL BE ABLE TO VIDEO RECORD IT, TIE IN THE AGENDA, THE MINUTES, THE VIDEOS, AND ALSO CONNECT WITH YOUR TABLETS SO THAT YOU'LL HAVE THE ABILITY TO SEARCH ON DOCUMENTS.
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ALREADY LOOKED OVER IT WITH IT AND TALKED A LITTLE BIT TO PURCHASING ABOUT IT AND WE'LL DO IT WITH THE COUNTY JUDGE'S OFFICE.WE'VE GOT, WE'VE GOT A MILLION BOOKS TO PRESERVE AND THIS IS AN ONGOING PROCESS.
WE'VE APPROVED AN INTERLOCAL WITH DALLAS.
THEY WENT OUT FOR RFP WITHIN THE INTERLOCAL WITH DALLAS.
SO WE'LL CONTINUE TO, TO USE THAT INTERLOCAL TO CONTINUE ON WITH BOOKS.
WE DID A MAJOR PROJECT THIS YEAR.
WE'LL PROBABLY DO SOME THIS YEAR, A FEW THIS YEAR BEFORE BUDGET.
AND THEN WE'LL DO ANOTHER BIG PUSH NEXT YEAR.
ALL YOU SEE, AND THIS IS NOT PART OF THE GENERAL FUND, EVERYBODY, YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY MAKES SURE YOU REALIZE THAT.
SO, UM, THE NUMBERS THAT ARE PROJECTED THERE, THEY'RE PRETTY, FEEL PRETTY GOOD ABOUT THOSE ON THE, THE COUNTY CLERK FEES, THE TWO 60, SHE WANTED TO INCREASE IT TO 300.
'CAUSE RIGHT NOW ALL SHE HAS TO DO FOR THE NEXT FOUR MONTHS IS COLLECT 57,000.
SHE'S ALREADY IN BUDGET, SO SHE'S GONNA GET MORE THAN THAT.
SO THAT'S A PRETTY GOOD REASONABLE INCREASE ON HER REVENUE SIDE.
AND THEN ON THE DEPUTY, WERE YOU SHOWING A 6,000 INCREASE? UH, YES.
MORE AND MORE OF OUR, UM, MORE AND MORE OF THE THINGS THAT WE DO ARE, ARE ALL SOFTWARE RELATED.
I MEAN, WE'RE USING ODYSSEY, WE'RE USING EAGLE LASER FISH.
WE'RE GOING INTO THE, WE'RE LOOKING AT THE GRANICUS SOFTWARE.
IT, I NEED SOMEBODY MORE, IT MORE KNOWLEDGEABLE IN IT AND I WOULD LIKE TO INCREASE PART OF THE SALARY.
I THINK RIGHT NOW I HAVE ONE AT 27 AND ONE AT 30, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
SO YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT TWO DAYS? I HAVE TWO ALREADY.
I'D JUST LIKE TO INCREASE THE SALARY ONE AND MAKE HER THE IT PERSON.
BARBARA CAN ONLY DO SO MUCH AND WE'RE HAVING TO DO OUR OWN WEBSITE AND I, I JUST NEED SOMEBODY THAT I CAN PAY THEM A SALARY IF THEY'RE WILLING TO SPEND.
MOST OF THE TIME IT'S OUR IT CONTACT.
AND YOU'VE HEARD THE DISCUSSION WE'RE KIND OF HOLDING UP ON, EVEN THOUGH IT'S NOT GENERAL FUND MONEY, WE'RE KIND OF HOLDING UP AND YOU, I SHOULD MENTION THAT THE DISTRICT CLERK AND COUNTY CLERK AND THE TAX ASSESSOR HAVE VISITED WITH ME ABOUT THEIR PAY SCHEDULE ALTOGETHER IN THEIR FREE OFFICES.
AND WE DO HAVE SOME AREAS WE PROBABLY NEED TO VISIT BECAUSE THEY DO APPEAR TO BE BELOW WHERE THEY NEED TO BE.
AND, UH, WE'LL AS WE GET CLOSER TO TALKING ABOUT THAT ON SALARY, WE'LL LOOK AT THAT.
I'LL, I'LL GET YOU THAT INFORMATION OR YOU WANNA GO AHEAD AND SEND IT TO AS WELL.
BUT WHEN YOU START LOOKING AT OTHER DEPARTMENTS, IT DOES APPEAR WE HAVE SOME, UH, FOLKS IN THE, IN THOSE THREE AREAS THAT PROBABLY NEED TO BE KIND OF AN EQUITY ADJUSTMENT THAT WOULD BRING THEM UP BETTER THAN WHERE THEY'RE NOW NOT A HUGE AMOUNT, BUT, UH, IT'S AN INCREASE.
SO, SO I THINK WE COULD HOLD UP ON THIS ONE UNTIL, AND THEN BOOKS, UH, RECORDS PRESERVATION 30,000 WHAT YOU STATED EARLIER.
OTHER QUESTIONS ON THIS? THIS IS UNDER COUNTY CLERK, SO, UH, AND I KNOW YOU'VE DONE A LOT OF IMPROVEMENT TRYING TO GET OUR RECORDS DIGITIZED AND CLEANED UP.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S A GOOD THING.
ALRIGHT, THE NEXT, UH, ITEMS COUNTY CLERK, COUNTY AND DISTRICT CLERK TECHNOLOGY, A LOT OF MONEY.
THIS IS, THIS IS TIED TO A COURT FEES MM-HMM
AND WHEN COURT FEES GOES DOWN, THE REVENUES GO DOWN IN THIS ACCOUNT AS WELL AS SOME OF THE OTHERS.
AND I KNOW THAT RHONDA AND I BOTH USED THIS FUND TO ATTEND THE TYLER ODYSSEY CONFERENCE OR, OR NOT FOR US, BUT SENDING PEOPLE TO THE TYLER ODER SEAT CONFERENCE.
AND I THINK, UM, WE BASICALLY HELD THE BUDGET THE WAY IT IS.
IT'S A FAIRLY EXPENSIVE CONFERENCE AND WE HAD FREE REGISTRATION BECAUSE WE'RE A REFERRED SITE, BUT I THINK THEY'RE KIND OF CANCELING OUT ON THAT PROGRAM SOME, SO WE'LL HAVE TO INCREASE THAT IF I HAVE THE SAME AMOUNT OF PEOPLE GO NEXT YEAR.
HOW ARE WE ON THE REVENUE THERE, KAREN? UH, WE BUDGETED THREE FOR LAURA'S
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PARK AND, UM, WE'VE COLLECTED $1,516.SO SO 2000 THAT'S YOUR PROJECTION PROBABLY BE A BETTER PROJECTION.
THE ONLY, THE ONLY THING IS HER REQUEST THAT SHE'S DOING IS NOT BALANCE BECAUSE THERE'S ALWAYS A, A CARRY IT FORWARD BALANCE THAT WE'LL HAVE TO FIX TO MATCH THAT SO THAT THE BUDGET'S BALANCED ONCE WE HEAR WHAT, UM, RHONDA WANTS SO WE CAN MAKE SURE WE HAVE IT RIGHT.
SHE'S JUST, IT HAS, IT HAS BOTH HER AND DISTRICT CLERK CLERK'S FEES IN THERE AND THEIR EXPENDITURES.
SOME OF HER FEES COVER AND THEN RHONDA COVERS HER PART THAT SHE ASKED FOR AND THEN WE HAVE THAT BALANCE THAT WE CARRY FORWARD TO GIVE THEM EXTRA THEY HE NEEDED.
ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT ONE? NEXT ONE'S THE RECORD ARCHIVES.
UM, AND AGAIN, WHAT WE DID IS JUST PROJECTED AN INCREASE BASED ON THE NUMBER OF RECORDING, LAND RECORDING GOING UP.
WE INCREASED THE REVENUES ON THIS ACCOUNT AND AGAIN, IT'S BASICALLY GOING TO TAKE CARE OF THE PRESERVATION AUTOMATION OF THE BOOKS SO THAT WE GET 'EM DIGITIZED, WE GET 'EM PRESERVED AND IN THE FORMAT SO THAT THEY'LL LESS FOR ANOTHER ONE 50 YEARS USED ON ANY OTHER RECORDS OTHER THAN THE COUNTY CLERKS? NO, THAT'S WHAT YOUR COMMISSIONERS, YEAH.
UH, HOW DOES THAT REVENUE LOOK? UH, WE BUDGET TO 245 AND IT SAID A HUNDRED NINETY FOUR SIX.
HOW MUCH? A HUNDRED NINETY FOUR SIX.
THAT'S PROBABLY, PROBABLY PRETTY ANCHORED.
SHE'S, SHE'S COLLECTING LIKE A RANGE OF LIKE 23, 20 4,001 MONTH.
SHE ONLY COLLECTED 20, BUT IN MAY SHE COLLECTED 30,000.
SO IT KIND OF THAT AND, UH, ON THE, UH, CHANGES ON THE RECORDS BOOK FOR RECORDS PRESERVATION, THAT THIRD I OF THE INCREASE OF 2 53.
IS THAT BECAUSE OF, UH, IT'S JUST, IF YOU SEE THE ENDING BALANCE ON THE TOP REVENUE, IT'S 4 35 AND I JUST BOUNCE THE BOTTOM WITH THE, OKAY.
JUST BALANCE THE BOTTOM AT THE 7 35, BUT THE MAJORITY OF THE MONEY GOING TOWARDS RECORD BOOK PRESERVATION.
SO YOU STILL GOT QUITE A BIT OF DEBT TO DO THEN? A HUNDRED OF THESE RECORDS? YEAH.
ANY QUESTIONS FROM ANYBODY? NO.
UH, LET'S TAKE A BREAK AND WE, I THINK RANDY'S ON HIS WELL AND, UH, WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ON THE COUNTY COURT THAT Y'ALL GOT.
HE'S, UH, RANDY HAD SURGERY, MARK HE HAD ADDRESS.
UM, YOU KNOW, ALL THE, ALL THE DEPARTMENTS HAVE THEIR OWN SERVER LIST WHERE THEY GET INFORMATION.
WHAT I, WHAT I WANTED TO TELL YOU THAT WE THOUGHT WAS VERY, VERY INTERESTING WAS THAT, UM, THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT SALARIES, THE COST OF SALARY BENEFITS TO COUNTIES.
AND I STARTED LOOKING AT SOME OF THEM AND IT WAS VERY CONFUSING AND COMPLEX THE WAY THEY WERE ANSWERING.
SO SOMEONE ASKED A QUESTION, GET SOME CLARIFICATION.
WELL, I'M LOOKING AT OUR SALARY BENEFITS THAT WE PAY AND JUST THE GENERAL FUND, IT'S LIKE 70 SOMETHING PERCENT, 74.67 LAST TIME I CHECKED OF THE COUNTY'S GENERAL FUND BUDGET GOES TO SALARY AND BENEFITS.
MOST OF THESE OTHER COUNTIES ARE LESS
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THAN 60%.WE'RE DOING SOMETHING WRONG AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE'RE DOING.
WHY, WHAT ABOUT THE INSURANCE? WHERE WERE MOST OF THEM PAYING ALL TOTAL COST OF HEALTH INSURANCE? NO, THAT WOULD SEE THAT, THAT'S SOMETHING I THINK I, I KNOW SOME COUNTIES DO.
UH, YOU'RE LOOKING AT LIKE 400,000 A MONTH JUST FOR HOURS.
AND SOMETIMES IT'S LESS, YOU KNOW, THE CHECKS WERE WRITE LOOK LIKE IT'S MORE THAN WHAT WE BUDGETED, BUT YOU HAVE TO TAKE AN ACCOUNT, ITS SPOUSE, ITS FAMILY AND WHATEVER.
WE TAKE THAT OUT OF THAT EMPLOYEESS CHECK AND ITS KIND OF GOES AGAINST IT CREDITS IT, BUT RIGHT.
I JUST WANTED TO, I FELT LIKE IF I WASN'T BEING UPFRONT AND TRUTHFUL ABOUT WHAT I'VE SEEN AND WHAT I'VE READ, HAD DEBBIE COME IN THERE AND HE SAID, HAVE YOU BEEN READING ALL THESE COUNTIES RESPONDING TO THESE, THESE QUESTIONS? AND I WENT, YEAH.
AND I SAID, WE GOTTA LOOK AT OURS BECAUSE SOMETHING, SOMETHING'S NOT RIGHT THE WAY WE'RE CALCULATING IT OR SOMETHING.
'CAUSE I THOUGHT MAYBE THEY WERE JUST LOOKING AT SALARIES AND NOT COUNTING THE BENEFITS THEY PLAYED WITH.
SO THEY CLARIFIED THOSE QUESTIONS AND IT WAS THE SAME.
SO I JUST WANTED TO LET Y'ALL KNOW THAT.
WELL, OF COURSE THE BENEFIT OF PAYING THE HEALTH INSURANCE FOR THE EMPLOYEE IS THEY DON'T, IT'S NOT TAXED.
IT'S A NON-TAXABLE EVENT AND THAT'S PRETTY HUGE.
WHEN YOU CONSIDER, YOU KNOW, THEY WERE WHAT, 800 A MONTH OR 9,600 OR SEVEN? 7 74 FOR EMPLOYEES.
THAT'S PRETTY, THAT'S A PRETTY EMPTY, HUGE AMOUNT.
SO THERE IS A, A WAY THAT YOU COULD STRUCTURE THAT SO THAT YOU COULD EXPLAIN IT A DIFFERENT WAY.
YOU COULD EXPLAIN IT AS A TOTAL BENEFIT STATEMENT.
WHEN YOU SHOW THEM SALARY, YOU COULD SHOW THEM THE ADDED BENEFIT OF HAVING PAID ALL OF THEIR BENEFITS, ALL OF THEIR HEALTHCARE AND, AND THAT IS PART OF THEIR SALARY.
LIKE THE SHEET THAT WE PREPARED FOR Y'ALL, THAT GOES DEPARTMENT BY DEPARTMENT.
THAT'S THE ACTUAL COST OF THAT EMPLOYEE BECAUSE THE INSURANCE IS NOT INCLUDED IN EVERY DEPARTMENT.
IT IS IN ROAD BRIDGE AND THE CHILD SHELTER AND A COUPLE OF OTHER DEPARTMENTS.
BUT THE GENERAL FUND, THE ELECTED OFFICIAL OR DEPARTMENT HEAD DOESN'T SEE THOSE BENEFITS COMING OUT OF THEIR DEPARTMENT, YOU KNOW? RIGHT.
AND THEN SOME EMPLOYEE IS JUST LOOKING AT WHAT THEY'RE GETTING PAID.
THEY'RE NOT THINKING OF THE, THE LIFE INSURANCE PART, THE RETIREMENT PART THAT WE PUT IN AND THE INSURANCE PART PUT IN BECAUSE WORKERS' COMP AND UNEMPLOYMENT TOO.
JUST SOMETHING FOR Y'ALL TO GOOD POINT, LOOK AT.
WELL, I THINK IT'S GOOD TO EDUCATE THE EMPLOYEE THAT THEY HAVE THESE EXTRA BENEFITS AS FAR AS INCLUDING THEM IN YOUR SALARY.
I MEAN, I MEAN, YOU GOT YOUR SALARY AND THEN YOU'VE GOT THIS BENEFITS THAT GO ALONG WITH YOUR SALARY.
AND IT IS A COST OF THE ACCOUNTING, BUT YOU DON'T TRY TO SELL IT TO 'EM AS, AS THEIR SALARY.
PRIME EXAMPLE, WHEN YOU GET INTO JUDGE JONES'S LETTER, OKAY? MM-HMM
THIS RIGHT HERE IS ENTIRELY WRONG.
IT'S NOT A GOOD COMPARISON 'CAUSE I'M GONNA TELL YOU WHY.
'CAUSE THERE IN LONGEVITY WAS INCLUDED.
SO IT'S NOT COMPARING APPLES TO APPLES.
SO YOU NEED TO BE AWARE OF THAT PART OF IT.
I'VE JUST GLANCED AT IT AND I KNEW AUTOMATICALLY THIS AIN'T COMPARING.
WELL, AND WE CAN'T MAKE A GOOD COMPARE.
UH, THAT, THAT'S JUST SOMETHING WE, IT'D BE GOOD IF WE COULD MAYBE I TIME SOMEBODY COULD DO A LITTLE COMPARISON OF THAT.
MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE ATION, I CAN GET A SURVEY FROM TACK MOST LIKELY AND FIND OUT WHO ALL HAD, WHICH COUNTIES CONTRIBUTE AND HAVE, WHICH COUNTIES PAY 100% OF THEM.
WE COULD, WE COULD HAVE IT FOR THIS LETTER THAT WE GOT FROM JUDGE, UH, JUDGE JONES.
THAT'S ACTUALLY, UH, NEEDS TO COME THROUGH THE UH, UH, COMMITTEE THAT'S, WE BE MEETING TOMORROW AT LUNCH.
THE, UH, THE UH, INDIGENT DEFENSE COMMITTEE.
UH, WELL TWO, WE'LL PREPARE YOU THE SALARY WORKSHEET.
WE DON'T DO IT THE FIRST MEETINGS BECAUSE YOU'RE LISTENING TO EVERYBODY'S REQUEST.
UH, RALPH NEEDED THIS EXTRA 6,000 SO HE COULD WORK HIS PEOPLE.
LAURA NEEDED THIS EXTRA ONE IN THAT, THAT FUND FOR HER PEOPLE.
AND THAT WAY Y'ALL GIVE US DIRECTION SO THEN WE
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CAN GO PUT THE NUMBERS IN.'CAUSE THAT JUST AUTOMATICALLY COUNTS.
CALCULATES THE SOCIAL SECURITY, THE, YOU KNOW, THE RETIREMENT AND ALL THAT STUFF FOR US.
YOU'VE GOT, UH, UH, TWO OR THREE DIFFERENT BUDGETS THAT FALL UNDER YOUR, UH, FOUR I GUESS NOW THAT FALL UNDER YOUR JURISDICTION.
SO I BELIEVE YOU HE'S ON THE, UH, EACH SCHEDULE COME IN TOMORROW.
SO IT'S ON, UH, ON TUESDAY ABOUT, WE DON'T HAVE PAGE NUMBERS ON THIS, BUT, UH, ACCOUNT NUMBER 12 25, 25, 21, 5, 22.
AND THESE, THESE ARE ALL GENERAL ACCOUNTS.
SO YOU WANT GO AHEAD AND START ON YOUR FIVE 20 UH, ITEMS THERE.
STARTING WITH THE PARTS AND REPAIRS.
IT WAS ALL EXPLAINED ON MY NEXT SHEET, BUT LAST YEAR WHEN THAT WAS ALL APPROVED, WHAT I FAILED TO DO WAS APPLY FOR THE, UH, AUTOMOBILE BUDGET FOR TRAINING FOR THE EXTRA PERSON THAT Y'ALL PROVIDED.
UH, THE ALLOW FOR PARTS AND REPAIRS, UNIFORMS, TOOLS, EQUIPMENT, SO FORTH.
EVERYTHING THAT I'VE HIGHLIGHTED SEE ADDED TO IS WHAT I'VE GOING AND VISED TO ACCOMMODATE FOR THE NEW PERSON AND THE NEW VEHICLE FOR PUBLIC WORK.
UH, IF PREPARED WE CAN ACTUALLY, BUT, UH, GAS AND OIL, WE'RE PRETTY, UH, SMALL DEPARTMENT IN THAT ANYHOW.
BUT KNOWLEDGE, LOGIC AND TRAINING, I DO NEED TO ACCOUNT FOR THE ADDITIONAL PERSON.
THAT'S WHY THERE WAS 600 ADDED ON UH, I 43 0 3 AND THEN UH, THOUSAND ON 9 43 0 5 TO PAY FOR HIS BILLS.
CONTINUING EDUCATION EACH YEAR.
THE UNIFORM BUDGET IN THAT DEPARTMENT HAS ONLY BEEN TWO 50 A YEAR.
ANYHOW, I WAS LOOKING TO DOUBLE THAT BECAUSE I HAVE TWO PEOPLE THAT ARE OUT THE FIELD.
UH, THE ONLY UNIFORM THAT I PROVIDE CURRENTLY IS UH, A POLO SHIRT THAT HAS IDENTIFIER, THE COUNTY DEPARTMENT, A BALL CAP AND MUD BOOTS WHEN THEY HAVE TO GET INTO THE NEST SITUATIONS ON THE CASH.
UH, UH, WHERE, WHERE ARE WE NOW AT? UH, KAREN? 2,500.
YEAH, BUT I MEAN AS OF HOW MUCH IN THE EXPENSE IS OF THERE? FIVE 90 AS OF THE END OF MARCH.
I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH THIS.
JUNE BEEN POSTED SUCH JULY, AUGUST AND EPTEMBER.
SO YOU MIGHT, THAT MIGHT BE HITTING A LITTLE HARD.
ALL I DID WAS JUST TAKE WHAT YEAH, THE BUDGET WAS, I'D SAY THAT'S, CUT THAT BACK TO 35 AND UH, GO AHEAD AND DO THAT KAREN.
HOPEFULLY GAS WON'T DOUBLE OR ANYTHING.
DOES EVERYBODY BE FACING THE PROBLEM? I'M SORRY.
HARD I SAID, I SAID IF IT DOES, EVERYBODY WILL BE FACING THE PROBLEM.
TOOLS AND EQUIPMENT, UH, THAT WE SPEND FOUND ON TOOLS AND EQUIPMENT, UH, IT DOESN'T REFLECT ON MIND OF WHAT YOU HAVE, BUT WE MOST VERY RECENTLY DID START BUYING ALL THE TOOLS, EQUIPMENT FOR THAT NEW VEHICLE.
SO I'M NOT SURE WHAT'S HIT ON THE BOOKS YET.
THERE BE QUITE A BIT MORE THAT BE HITTING PRETTY QUICK.
YOU THINK IT'LL BE HITTING IN 2000? UH, NO.
YEAH, I MEAN I'M TALKING ABOUT FOR NEXT YEAR, PROBABLY NOT THOUSAND AGAIN.
WHAT DID, JUST DOUBLE BECAUSE I HAVE TWO
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VEHICLES NEED.UH, IT VARIES DEPENDING ON WHAT BREAKS, YOU KNOW, WE LASER LEVELS.
I DON'T THE HIGH CUT IT BACK INTO A THOUSAND LIKE YOU HAD THIS YEAR THEN, UH, AND IF THERE'S SOMETHING YOU NEED TO BUY THIS YEAR, GO AHEAD AND BUY IT.
UH, TALKING ABOUT A THOUSAND TOTAL FOR TWO VEHICLES.
WELL YOU SEE I'M DOUBLING THE WORKFORCE FROM LAST YEAR.
YEAH, I KNOW, BUT I MEAN, YOU'RE GOING TO SPEND WHAT I'M SAYING.
GO AHEAD AND BUY WHAT YOU NEED TO BUY THIS YEAR BECAUSE YOU'RE GOING TO SPEND HOW MUCH? 158.
WELL, WE SPENT MORE THAN THAT.
WE JUST, UH, LAST WEEK YOU EVERYTHING CLOSE AS LAST WEEK.
THAT VEHICLE, THAT PARTICULAR BUDGET'S GONNA BE NEAR A ZERO BALANCE.
YEAH, WE'VE ALREADY, WE ALREADY SPENT, LIKE I SAID, 158, HE STILL HAS 780, 2 50 SHOWING.
BUT IF HE SPENDS ANYTHING JULY, AUGUST AND SEPTEMBER, THAT'S GONNA CHANGE.
WELL I MEAN I'M NOT TRYING TO CUT HIM FOR WHAT HE NEEDS.
I MEAN THE OFFICER WANTS, I JUST WONDER IF YEAH, IF HE'S GOT, HE ADDED AN EX THAT EXTRA PERSON AND GOT HIM ON BOARD.
WHAT ABOUT THE, THE EXTRA HELP? 'CAUSE HE HASN'T SPENT ALL THAT MONEY.
I HAVE ONE PERSON THAT I'M USING RIGHT NOW FOR EXTRA HELP.
THEY'RE ON CURRENTLY ONE DAY A WEEK TO HELP HIM.
WE BUDGETED 10,000 AND HE'S ONLY SPENT $720.
AS A, WE COULD TAKE A GOOD JOB THAT BECAUSE I'M NOT USING THAT LIKE I USED TO BECAUSE YOU GOT, WELL WE GOT THE STAFF STAFF LAST YEAR, WHICH IS CUT TREMENDOUSLY.
WE'LL SEE WHAT HAPPENS AT THE END OF THE YEAR.
WE KEEP, YOU KNOW, GETTING MORE AND MORE GROWTH THAT WE HAVE HAD.
I'M SURE THAT WE'LL BE, YOU KNOW, NEXT YEAR OR TWO.
SO YOU THINK WE'RE GONNA CUT THAT BACK TO, UH, WHAT ON EXTRA EFFORT NOW, BUT REQUESTED 10,000 I THINK.
YEAH, WE CAN DEFINITELY CUT THAT BACK.
I DIDN'T EVEN CONSIDER THAT TOO.
WHAT WOULD BE YOUR SUGGESTION? UH, WHAT HAVE WE SPENT SO FAR? YOU'VE ONLY SPENT 720 SO I'D PUT IT DOWN TO AT LEAST 5,000.
'CAUSE WE'RE, WE'RE DRIVING ON PRETTY GOOD.
I'M GONNA TRY TO GET DIGITIZING EVERYTHING AND WE, I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN WORK SOMETHING THROUGH MY DEPARTMENT LIKE WE DID FOR THE CLERKS OR NOT.
I'M NOT SURE WHAT THAT COSTS, BUT IF WE CAN, I'M GOING TRY TO UTILIZE THAT EXTRA PERSON.
IF I GET ME A SCAN OR BORROW, I SCAN, WE'RE GONNA START USING THAT PERSON EXTRA DAYS OF THE WEEK TO TRY TO GET EVERYTHING.
WE HAVE BETWEEN EIGHT, I BELIEVE BOBCATS FULL.
WE JUST HAD TO BORROW ANOTHER THE OTHER DAY.
DID YOU, UH, TALK WITH THAT? DID YOU GET TO ON THE KIDS OR THE YES.
THEY'VE ONLY GOT ONE OR TWO MAYBE SO FAR.
BUT, UM, JUDGE, I'M GONNA USE ONE.
JUDGE GORDON'S GONNA USE ONE AND I ASK THEM, SEND ME ANYBODY THEY HAVE.
SO WE CAN, IF YOU NEED SOMEBODY THAT WE CAN GET YOU SOMEBODY THROUGH THAT PROGRAM POSSIBLY THAT CAN COME OVER.
YOU HAVE TO TEACH THEM SOMETHING.
WE'LL HAVE TO TEACH THEM THE PROGRAM WHERE TO PUT HOW TO ACCESS PUT.
ANOTHER THING I WANNA ASK YOU REAL QUICK BEFORE I FORGET ABOUT IT.
IF YOU'RE ADDING EQUIPMENT TO THOSE VEHICLES THAT NEEDS TO BE INSURED, I NEED TO KNOW ABOUT IT.
AND YOU HAVEN'T BOUGHT THE, HAVE YOU BOUGHT THE VEHICLE? ABSOLUTELY, YES.
I'M, I'M, YOU KNOW, THIS, THIS DEPARTMENT, THE, IT GENERATES LOTS OF FUNDS AND SO, UH, I'M NOT TRYING TO YOU WELL, I'M SURE YOU WON'T LET US FORGET, BUT NO, WE WON'T LET YOU FORGET.
YEAH, RANDY KEEPS, I MEAN HE KEEPS WE BUDGET.
I'M JUST TRYING TO FIND WHERE WE CAN SAVE A LITTLE MONEY HERE THAT WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO DO USE IT SOMEPLACE ELSE.
WE'VE GONE THREE, THREE BUDGET YEARS.
WE'VE GONE FROM 45% REVENUE VERSUS UP TO WHAT? A LOT.
IF I, IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY ABOUT WHEN DID YOU START? I STARTED OCTOBER OF, UH, 2014.
UH, FOR NEARLY, FOR TWO AND A HALF YEARS AGO, IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY.
UH, THIS WASN'T PUBLIC, UH, PUBLIC SERVICE OR NOT PUBLIC WORK.
IF I REMEMBER WE WERE GENERATING ONLY 50, 42,000.
YEAH, IT IS REALLY, I I PROVIDED YOU A SHEET, UH, THAT I DIDN'T HAVE INITIAL THAT CAME FROM THE PROPERTY OFFICE AND SHOWS THE REVENUES OVER THE TRENDS OF THE YEARS.
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THE ONE DOING ALL TALKING HERE, SO IF EVERYBODY WANT TO, DOING FINE.ALRIGHT, WELL LET'S MOVE ON THEN TO THE NEXT ONE.
ANY, IT'S PUBLIC WORKS AND YOU DO HAVE A, UH, BIT OF A SCENARIO HERE ABOUT BEFORE YOU GET THAT, ABOUT THE REQUEST AND THE JUSTIFICATION AND UH, SO, UH, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND TALK ABOUT THAT.
YOU'LL DO THE JUSTIFICATION ON PUBLIC WORKS NOW.
THAT'S WHAT WE'RE ON PUBLIC WORKS.
5 21 IS GONNA BE FIVE BUDGET 21.
YEAH, FIVE 20 PUBLIC WORK YOU ALREADY COVERED.
MY NEXT SHEET WOULD BE IS, UH, 11 25 21.
THAT'S WHAT, THAT'S THE MARSHALL.
SPREADSHEET FIRST OR DO THE FIRE MARSHAL GO OVER THE REQUEST.
UH, LOOKING FOR THE ADDITIONAL PERSONNEL, THE DEPUTY FIRE MARSHAL SLASH INSPECTOR SLASH INVESTIGATOR TO BE CROSS TRAINED TO DO ALL THE JOB FUNCTIONS WITHIN THAT DEPARTMENT.
AND THEN THEY HAD SUPPLEMENT SALARY FOR THE FIRE CODE, UH, WHICH WE WENT THROUGH THAT GUYS THAT WERE ON THE COURT.
WE WENT THROUGH THAT ABOUT TWO OR THREE YEARS AGO AND FOUND OUT THAT WE COULD SUPPLEMENT THEIR SALARY WITH THAT 5,000.
IT'S VERY LIMITED ABOUT WHAT WE DO.
PORTION OF YES, IT'S EXCLUSIVE FOR THE ADMINISTRATION ENFORCEMENT OF THE FIRE CODE.
SO IN ORDER TO KEEP SOMETHING, IT WAS, UH, APPROVED.
THAT'S WHAT'S HIGHLIGHTED IN RED ON THAT SHEET.
IT WAS, UH, DISCUSSED BY OUR COUNTY, UH, ATTORNEY SEVERAL YEARS AGO.
AND I BELIEVE STILL IN AGREEMENT WITH CURRENT COUNTY ATTORNEYS, UH, THAT HAVE OF ANY VEHICLE THAT'S NOW PURCHASED IN THAT DEPARTMENT CAN BE FUNDED THROUGH THE FIRE CODE FUND AND NOT ALL OF IT HAD TO COME OUTTA THE GENERAL.
SO THAT WILL CUT THE VEHICLE COST, UH, DOWN THE VEHICLE.
AND I APOLOGIZE, JIM, AND I'VE JUST NOT, I'VE NOT HAD THE, UH, NEW QUOTES COME IN AND ALSO I'VE BEEN SPEAKING WITH COMMISSIONER BARBER.
UH, SOUNDS LIKE A VERY APPEALING PROPOSAL ON POSSIBLY DOING THIS, UH, LEASE, UH, LEASE BILL OR JUST A LEASE.
YEAH, THERE'S A, UM, COMPANY THAT'S, UH, DNM AUTO LEASING.
I DON'T KNOW IF LEASE HAS CHECKED INTO YOU YET OR NOT, BUT UH, THEY TOLD US ANYWAY THAT THEY'RE DOING EMERGENCY VEHICLES NOW LEASING THE PROGRAM.
THEY DIDN'T, THEY HAVEN'T ALWAYS DONE IT.
YEAH, IT'S KIND OF A NEW DEAL, BUT THEY'VE ALREADY DONE IT WITH SEVERAL OTHER CITIES APPARENTLY AND IT'S WORKING OUT GREAT FOR ME TO SAVE THEM SO MUCH MONEY.
WE'RE LOOKING AT AN FULLY EQUIPPED VEHICLE.
UH, AND EVEN THE MILEAGE SOUNDED VERY APPEALING.
YEAH, NO, WELL THAN WHAT WE PUT MM-HMM
AND ANYWHERE FROM THE SEVEN TO $900 A MONTH RANGE.
FULLY EQUIPPED LIGHTS, GRAPHICS, EVERYTHING, UH, IN IN CAR CAMERA SYSTEMS, THE BED COVERAGE TO OR LOCK BOXES, WHATEVER, TO PROTECT THE EQUIPMENT SECURITY.
UH, WE WOULD HAVE TO FURNISH THE HARRIS RADIO TO INSTALL INTO IT, WHICH WE JUST MOVE IT FROM ONE VEHICLE WITH THE FOLLOW.
UH, I HAVE ONE THAT I'M GONNA TRY TO KEEP IN RESERVED SO I DON'T HAVE ANY EXTRA RADIOS.
UH, I'VE GOT ONE, THE ONE VEHICLE THAT I'VE RELEASED, WELL, THE AUCTION DOES NOT HAVE A NEW RADIO IN.
SO THAT LEAVES ME WITH ONE VEHICLE THAT IS CURRENTLY NOT FUNCTIONABLE AS FAR AS JUST GET OUT OF YOURS.
WE HAVE TO GET UP, BUT IT DOES HAVE A NEW RADIO.
IT DOES HAVE THE, THE LIGHTS AND UH, BUT IT DOES NOT HAVE THE ON ONBOARD CAMERAS SYSTEM.
UH, THE CAMERA COMPANY THAT WE HAVE BEEN USING FOR SEVERAL YEARS TO TRY AND STAY IN LINE WITH WHAT THE SHERIFF DEPARTMENT USED, YOU KNOW, REPAIR AND SO FORTH.
THAT COMPANY NO LONGER IS SUPPLY THE LAW ENFORCEMENT CAMERA SYSTEMS. SO THE SHERIFF, AND I DON'T KNOW THE DETAILS HERE, HE CAN PROBABLY EXPLAIN TO YOU BETTER THAN I CAN.
I BELIEVE IT'S ACTUALLY, UH, WAR BANK FOR A LITTLE BIT LESS MONTH.
SO WE'RE LOOKING AT A LITTLE PROBABLY AROUND THE $3,500 RANGE FOR EQUIPMENT.
ONE FOR THE DASH CAMERA SYSTEMS RATHER THAN THE 4,500.
SO BACK ON THIS LEASE THING, MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND, IT'S NOT A LEASE PURCHASE, IT'S JUST A STRAIGHT LEASE LEASE THREE YEARS, HOWEVER YOU WANNA DO IT, BUT THREE YEARS IS WHAT THEY RECOMMEND.
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HAS DONE SOME EXTENSIVE CHECKING ON INTHEY WILL ALSO DO THE CAMERA SYSTEM AS PART OF THE LEASE.
SO YOU'RE ONLY, YOU'RE ONLY PAYING IT OUT, YOU KNOW, FOR THE TIME YOU'RE USING IT.
INSTEAD OF HAVING TO PAY FOR THIS THING ALL, ALL UP FRONT.
YOU'RE JUST PAYING OUT A MONTHLY, YOU KNOW, IT'S PART OF THE LEASE.
HOW MANY MILES WERE PAID? I THINK IT'S 50,000, UH, A YEAR IS WHAT THEY, WHAT THEY WE DON'T, WE DON'T PUT 50,000 A YEAR.
NO, I WOULDN'T LIKE, DO WE KNOW WHAT THE INSURANCE REQUIREMENTS ARE? I DON'T KNOW.
UH, I THINK WHEN, UH, CONSTABLE STEVENS TALKED TO US, HE'S GOT SOME MORE DETAILS ON THAT.
I JUST FOUND OUT ABOUT THIS FEW DAYS AGO, AND I HAVE NO, MOST COUNTIES, MOST COUNTIES ARE SAYING IT'S PAINTED, ESPECIALLY IF YOU HAVE CONCERN OR TOTAL OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT BECAUSE THE LEASING COMPANY, IF YOU TOTAL IT HAVE A WRECK IN IT, THEY WANT YOU TO PAY THEM OFF.
THEN THAT'S PART OF THE ISSUE.
THAT'D BE SOMETHING WE'VE CALL A TANK ABOUT.
I GUESS I'VE ONLY SEEN ON EMERGENCY VEHICLES NOW, NOT ON LIKE PUBLIC WORKS TYPE VEHICLES.
LIKE YOU, YOU GUYS WOULD HAVE MM-HMM
BUT ON YOURS WOULD FALL MORE ON THE, ALONG THE LINES OF AN EMERGENCY VEHICLE.
UM, I I'VE HEARD NOTHING BUT NEGATIVE OFF OF OUR LISTSERV REALLY.
BUT I MEAN, BUT NOW AS FAR AS PUBLIC WORKS ONES, I, I HAVE NOT HEARD ONE WAY OR ANOTHER TO BE HONEST.
AND THE, HMM, I I DON'T THE NEED TO BE RESEARCHED.
I'M STILL GONNA HAVE HIM PROVIDE ME ALL THE DATA.
I THINK KEITH'S ALREADY GOT A WHOLE BUNCH OF IT HERE THEN.
AND IF HE'S DONE THE RESEARCH, THEN HE WOULD HAVE THE NUMBERS TO SUPPORT THAT.
UM, BUT THE ONES THAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT, IT WAS, TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, IT HAD TO DO WITH MILEAGE.
BUT WHAT THE WAY THEY'RE SAYING WHAT THEY FOUND OUT THE MILEAGE IS QUITE A BIT DIFFERENT BECAUSE THAT, THAT WAS ONE OF THE HUGE NEGATIVES WAS THAT UH, THERE WEREN'T ALLOTTING ENOUGH MILEAGE ON THESE VEHICLES.
AND THEN I THINK, UH, SHERIFF S HAD CHECKED INTO IT AT ONE POINT IN TIME AS WELL.
ON E WE, IT WAS THE SAME COMPANY.
THIS IS SOMETHING THAT JUST STARTED AND THAT MIGHT BE PROGRAM FROM WHAT WE, MAYBE THEY'VE UH, REWORKED IT AND COME UP WITH SOMETHING MORE MANAGEABLE.
THE OTHER THING I LIKED ABOUT IT WAS, YOU KNOW, IF YOU GET THREE YEARS WHAT THEY'RE RECOMMENDED, GIVE BACK TO THREE YEARS AND GET ANOTHER, IT'S ALL UNDER WARRANTY.
TEARS UP, YOU JUST KNOCK YOUR PARTS AND REPAIR BUT YOU WEIGH OUT.
IF YOU HAVE A CHANCE, YOU MIGHT CHECK WITH THE CONS COURT WITH UH, MR. BARBER AND CONTACT THIS COMPANY DIRECT AND I'M SURE THEY'VE GOT A WEBSITE OR SOMEBODY THAT THEY'VE BEEN TALKING TO.
WE'VE GOT A CONTACT PERSON OVER JUST KIND OF FIND OUT WHAT AND MAYBE WHO ALL THEY'RE DOING THIS WITH TOO, YOU KNOW.
SO YEAH, 22 BAGS YOU GONNA GET 22, THE ONE THAT WE, YOU CUT, YOU CUT THE COST DOWN TO 25 ON YOUR CAR BASIS.
YEAH MA, WE LEASE IT FROM THEM FOR THOUSAND A MONTH.
YOU SPENT 36,000 IN THREE YEARS.
IT MIGHT EVEN AFFECT OUR, OUR AUDIT ON LIABILITY ON WHAT WE HAVE IN LIABILITY TOO.
I MEAN IT'S JUST SOMETHING I'M JUST SAYING DON'T HAVE ALL THE INFORMATION, CONSTABLE HAVE MUCH MORE INFORMATION, INFORMATION ON THIS PARTICULAR COMPANY.
JUST NOT, I HEARD OF D I'VE HEARD OF YEAH, I'VE NEVER PERSON LEASED CAR.
BUT IN A NUTSHELL, YOU KNOW, JUST THE JUSTIFICATION, THERE'S THREE SHORT PARAGRAPHS AT THE BOTTOM.
THIS, I MEAN EVERYBODY KNOWS WHERE WE STAND, THEY KNOW COUNTY, BUT WE'VE HAD THE SAME STACKING LEVELS AND THIS OFFICE FOR THE LAST 15 YEARS, WE'VE NOT INCREASED WITH THE GROWTH OF THE COUNTY POPULATION.
AND WITH THAT POPULATION BECOMES VULNERABILITY, CONSTRUCTION, MORE COST PER SERVICE.
AND UH, THAT'S WHAT REFLECTS IN THE ACTIVITY REPORTS THAT I PROVIDE TO YOU EACH MONTH.
UH, 2014 THAT ACTUALLY WENT A LITTLE BIT NEGATIVE AS FAR AS WHAT I CALL THE EFFECT OF THE PEOPLE THAT DO THE WORK OUT IN THE FIELD WHEN I BECAME THE DIRECTOR OVER THE VARIOUS DEPARTMENTS.
REDUCE THE AMOUNT OF TIME THAT I HAD OUT IN THE FIELD TO BE ABLE TO MAKE THE CALLS, PHOTOGRAPHS, DO THE INVESTIGATIONS, INTERVIEWS, INTERROGATION AND SO FORTH.
SO, YOU KNOW, WE'RE PRETTY MUCH DOWN TO TWO PEOPLE IN THE FIELD.
PROBABLY GONNA BE LOSING AT LEAST ONE OF THEM AROUND THE FIRST OF THE YEAR AND THEN ANOTHER, NOT THE FIRE MARSH.
ONE OF THEM HAS ALREADY ANNOUNCED RETIREMENT FIRST NEXT YEAR.
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THAT.CAN THESE, CAN THESE FOLKS, THE FIRE MARSHALS AND THE ENVIRONMENTAL OFFICERS, WHICH ARE LICENSED OFFICERS, CAN THEY BE CROSSTRAINED? UH, IS THAT, UH, POSSIBLE IT BE DONE? YES SIR.
THESE STAFF READY, THEY'RE READY TO RETIRE.
BUT IT IS IS VERY SPECIFIC TRAINING.
WE'RE ALL POLICE OFFICERS AND WE HAVE TO BE IN ORDER TO MAKE THE ARREST.
BUT THE ENVIRONMENTAL LAWS ARE A COMPLETE DIFFERENT OUTLET.
I CAN CHARTS RELATED LAWS, I'D BE, IT'D BE NICE IF THEY COULD BE, YOU KNOW, AND JUST THE PAPERWORK PROCESS, YOU KNOW, BETWEEN THE TWO.
UH, DO THE INVESTIGATION, PREPARE THE CASE, SUBMIT THE CASE TO THE DA'S OFFICE.
I JUST, YOU KNOW, WOULD ULTIMATELY, WOULD IT BE GREAT TO HAVE CROSS SIR? IT SURE WILL.
UH, IT WOULD INVOLVE A LOT OF TRAINING AND A LOT OF, UH, EXPENDITURES ON THE TRAINING BUDGET TO GET CROSS TRAIN FOR BOTH BECAUSE THESE ARE CERTIFIABLE, YOU KNOW, CERTIFICATIONS THAT THEY HAVE TO HOLD IN ORDER TO DO THAT.
AND EVERYBODY I THINK KNOWS THIS, BUT FOR THE ENVIRONMENTAL OFFICERS AND THE FIRE MARSH, I KNOW YOU GUYS, THEY HAVE TO WORK UNDER CERTIFI OFFICER UNDER SOMEBODY LIKE ME OR COMMISSIONER.
THEY'RE WORKING UNDER, UNDER, WHICH WAS APPROVED.
I, I LIKE THE CONCEPT, I MEAN THE CROSS TRAINING AND I JUST, IN MY MIND, I CAN'T SEE SUCH A BIG DIFFERENCE BETWEEN FOLLOWING SOMETHING THROUGH THE LEGAL TRAIL ON THE ARSON SIDE VERSUS THE ENVIRONMENTAL SIDE OR ON THE STREET SIDE AS A COP.
I JUST DON'T SEE A LOT OF GENERIC GENERICALLY THE PROCESS WOULD BE THE SAME.
AND THEN I GUESS MY OTHER QUESTION IS THIS IS, IS IT TIME FOR PUBLIC WORKS TO BE ITS OWN DEPARTMENT WITH ITS OWN DIRECTOR? I MEAN IT WAS 2014.
WELL I KNOW, BUT IS IT TIME TO GO BACK TO THAT TO GENERATE THE REVENUES AND EVERYTHING'S GONNA GET BUSIER AND BUSIER IN YOUR OFFICE AND YOU'RE DIRECTING THREE DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS AND THE LIFE MAIL WHILE YOU'RE MAKING SIGNS FOR, FOR THE COMMISSIONERS SIGNS PART.
I MEAN, YOU GET TASKED WITH A LOT OF STUFF THAT YOU'VE BEEN TASKED WITH.
MAYBE IT'S TIME TO WELL, WE LOST THE, UH, WE LOST THE PERSON THAT WAS IN CHARGE OF THE, UH, PUBLIC WORKS.
UH, THE FIRST WHO RETIRED AND YEAH.
AND UH, WE WERE HAVING SOME ISSUES THERE, WHICH, YOU KNOW, THAT'S BEHIND US.
SO WE WENT TO RANDY OR I WENT TO RANDY AND SAID SOMETHING TO, UH, WOULD YOU BE WILLING TO TAKE THIS DEPARTMENT, THESE DEPARTMENTS OVER? AND HE, YOU KNOW, AS RANDY USED DOES, HE SAID, YEAH, I THINK I CAN DO THAT.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S HOW WE WOUND UP WITH IT.
UH, WE COULD CERTAINLY HAVE OUR OWN PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT, UH, AND THEY, THEY'RE NOT LICENSED, UH, OFFICER TO ANYTHING.
THERE'RE PEOPLE THAT ARE TRYING TO GO OUT AND DO WHAT THEY DO.
AND SO THAT'S CERTAINLY, I'M SURE YOU WOULD, THAT'D BE SOMETHING THAT YOU PROBABLY WOULD NOT MIND GETTING UP.
WELL, WE'RE WORKING ON SUBDIVISION NOW.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A PORTAL WHERE EVERYTHING'S COME IN WHERE EVERYTHING DIS DISSEMINATED NEEDS TO BE.
I MEAN, AND WE'RE FIXING TO START BLOWING UP, I THINK.
AND THEN WHERE EVERYBODY COMES TO, TO ONE SPOT A ONE STOP SHOP OR IF NOTHING ELSE, JUST HAVE A, A MIDLEVEL MANAGEMENT.
SOMEBODY THAT COULD ACTUALLY DO THE FUNCTION.
STILL BE UNDER ONE DEPARTMENT, HEAD DIRECTOR, UMBRELLA MANAGEMENT TO ADDRESS DAY, DAY BY DAY.
SO ADMINISTRATIVE IN YOUR DAILY ROUTINE, YOU DO THE DAY TO DAY STUFF THAT COMES UP IN PUBLIC WORKS? YES SIR.
JUST LIKE YOU DO AS FIRE MARSHAL.
YOU DON'T HAVE SOMEBODY THAT'S A MID-LEVEL SUPERVISOR.
SHE, PRETTY MUCH EVERYTHING THAT COMES IN, SHE HELPS SCHEDULE, SET UP THE SCHEDULE FOR ALL THE INSPECTIONS.
UH, SHE WILL BE THE INITIAL PERSON TO FILL THE COMPLAINTS.
MOST COMPLAINTS ARE TAKEN CARE OF BY HER.
SOME PEOPLE JUST FLAT REFUSE AND THEY WANNA TALK TO THE DEPARTMENT HEAD.
AND UH, AND I'LL ADDRESS THAT.
BUT IN ADDITION TO HER COORDINATING THE DAILY ACTIVITIES THAT THE SCHEDULING OF THE DEPARTMENT, SHE ALSO DOES ALL OF THE, THOSE THREE, UH, INSPECTION REPORTS THAT COME WITH EACH MAINTENANCE CONTRACT EACH YEAR.
WE GET ABOUT, UH, SOMEWHERE AROUND 45 TO EACH THOUSAND OF THOSE DOCUMENTS PER YEAR.
AND SHE TAKES THOSE DOCUMENTS AND DOES THE DATA ENTRY AND PUTS IT INTO THE, THE SYSTEM TO BE STORED IN THE HISTORICAL OBSERVER.
SHE STAY STAYS PRETTY GOOD, I WOULD IMAGINE.
I, I ACTUALLY DISCUSSED THAT WITH HER, WHAT WOULD HAPPEN AND, UH, I WE'RE NOT VERY WELCOME TO THE FACT THAT
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SOMEWHERE ELSE THAT WE DO WHAT WE GOTTA DO.UH, YOU KNOW, THAT'S SOMETHING WHEN YOU'RE GOING THROUGH YOUR BUDGET HERE, BUT THAT SOMETHING WE MIGHT THINK ABOUT ABOUT TAKING PUBLIC WORKS, PUTTING SOMEBODY ELSE IN CHARGE OF IT OR AT LEAST DESIGNATE A DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS OR, OR SOME SORT OF A TITLE FOR THAT.
SO, AND YOU'RE ASKING FOR OBJECTION PERSON FOR PUBLIC WORKS OR NOT? UH, I HAVEN'T EVEN ADDRESSED THAT YET.
I'M ASKING FOR THE ONE PERSON, UH OH, I'M SORRY.
I'M NOT ASKING FOR ANY PERSONNEL.
YEAH, WE TALKED ABOUT PUBLIC WORKS.
WE TOOK CARE OF THE PERSONNEL FOR PUBLIC WORKS LAST YEAR, SO WE'RE GOOD TODAY.
WE'LL SEE HOW LONG THAT LASTS WITH THE GROWTH OF THE COUNTY UNTIL WE HAVE TO INCREASE THAT.
ALL RIGHT, SO NOW FIRE MARSHAL.
FIRE MARSHAL IS ASKING FOR THE ONE ADDITIONAL DEPUTY AND THEN A VEHICLE AND THEN ON THE, ON THE SPREADSHEET THE ASSOCIATED COST FOR THAT ONE VEHICLE FROM THAT PERSON.
YOU GOT A SALARY FOR DEPUTY FIRE MARSHAL ONE ONE ADDITIONAL AND YOU GOT A SALARY SUPPLEMENT FOR DEPUTY FIRE MARSHAL REPORT? YES SIR.
THE SUPPLEMENT IS THE FIRE CODE FUND.
IS THAT PAID OUTTA THE FIRE FUND? YES SIR.
YEAH, WE SHOW A TRANSFER ON THE REVENUE SIDE COMING IN.
NOW ON THE, UH, ON MY FIRE CODE BUDGET THAT I PROPOSED, UH, YOU WON'T HAVE ANY CHANGES ON YOUR SHEETS.
I DID REALIZE THAT SOME OF THAT MONEY DOES HAVE TO COME OUT TO TRANSFER.
SO I'LL USE THE DOLLAR FIGURES HERE WHEN WE GET TO IT.
REALIZE THAT YOU GOT EXTRA HELP HERE AGAIN.
AND UH, EXTRA HELP FOR MY TWO RESERVE OFFICERS THAT PULL WEEKEND DUTIES THAT WAY.
MY, MY H FIVE OFFICERS THAT CATCH CALL OUTS DURING EVERY WORK DAY EVENING, UH, INCLUDING MYSELF.
I CATCH SOME IN THE EVENING AS WELL.
UH, I CAN'T SEE WORKING THE GUY SEVEN DAYS A WEEK.
SO EVERY WEEKEND FROM FRIDAY EVENING UNTIL MONDAY MORNING, WE HAVE RESERVE OFFICERS THAT DO NOT GET PAID UNLESS THEY GET CALLED OUT AND WE GET PAID $15 A NIGHT AND WE HAVEN'T SPENT MUCH OF THAT.
BUT THEY'RE, ARE THEY PAYING OUT THE FIRE CODE FUND THEN? BECAUSE THERE'S NO, ONE OF 'EM IS OF THEM'S NOT.
I BELIEVE, UH, I BELIEVE YOU HAD GRAPPLING UNDER THE FIRE CODE OKAY.
FUND AND THEN JESSE WOOD IS UNDER THE FIRE MARSHALS, BUT WELL, THERE'S BEEN NO EXPENSE AND EXTRA HELP.
WELL I HAVEN'T SEEN, THEY MUST BE YEARS.
AND THEN, UH, THAT MONEY ALSO FOR THE PART-TIME, THEIR EXTRA HELP IS ALSO IF WE HAVE A NEED TO ENFORCE A, UH, FIRE MARSHALS ORDER.
WE'VE DONE, WE END UP USUALLY DOING ABOUT TWO A YEAR, UH, ON APARTMENT COMPLEX OR SOMETHING OF THAT NATURE.
WHEN THE COMPANY GOES IN AND REMODELS AND SPRAY THE SPRAY PAINT OVER ALL THE SPRING PERIODS, THAT SYSTEM IS SHUT DOWN AND THERE MUST BE A FIRE WATCH ON THAT.
AND THAT FIRE WATCH, UH, WE HAD ONE ON THE, UH, ASSISTED LIVING FACILITY THAT LASTED FOR THREE DAYS.
24 7 PATROL FIRES A DAY FOR THREE DAYS UNTIL THE SYSTEM WAS REPAIRED.
AND WE HAVE TO PAY THOSE STAFF FOR THAT.
AND I HAVE A LIST OF QUALIFIED, THEY'RE ALL FIREFIGHTERS THAT HAVE THE QUALIFICATIONS OF, UH, THAT MUST BE MET IN ORDER TO BE STANDBY FOR FIREPLACE.
UH, WE PAY THEM, WE DO GET, UH, REVENUE FOR THAT.
SO I'VE GOT PROBABLY 12 PEOPLE LISTED PART-TIME.
WELL WE, BUT WE GET REIMBURSED BY THAT COMPANY.
YOU ANSWER THE QUESTION? YES, SIR.
SO THE QUESTION REALLY IS, WE WERE BOILING DOWN THAT WE NEED TO GET ANOTHER VEHICLE, UH, EITHER LEASE OR FIVE WENT OUTRIGHT.
WE KNOW WHICH PAY FOR HALF OF IT OUTTA THE FIRE MARSH ON.
AND THE BIG QUESTION IS WHETHER WE HAD ANOTHER FIRE, MARSH.
SO CROSS TRAINED ALL THREE OFFICER FIRE INVEST PRIOR.
UM, I HAVEN'T HAD A CHANCE TO ASK THE SHERIFF ABOUT THIS YET.
WAS TALKING TO, UH, KEITH STEVENS THE OTHER DAY, UH, ABOUT AMMUNITION.
IT'S NOT A HUGE AMOUNT OF MONEY, BUT WHERE, WHERE DO YOU GET YOUR AMMUNITION? WE HAVE TO BEST DEAL THIS YEAR.
OKAY, THAT'S WHAT I WAS GONNA SUGGEST.
'CAUSE UH, KEITH WAS GETTING, WE JUST COMPLETED THAT,
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BUT OKAY.KEITH WAS GETTING IT FROM I THINK GUNS AND OVER THERE IN CARROLL.
AND I WAS TELLING HIM IF ALL YOU GUYS, ALL THE LAW ENFORCEMENT IN THE COUNTY WOULD GET TOGETHER TO GO TO GT AT ONE TIME, I GUARANTEE Y'ALL GET A HUGE DISCOUNT.
AND, UH, YOU KNOW,
UH, IT'S, UH, GOOD PRACTICES AND MOST GOOD DEPARTMENTS WILL QUALIFY TWICE A YEAR.
I KNOW ALL THE ENTITIES SHERIFF'S OFFICE HERE, SO IT'S, IT'S ABOUT $250 PER PERSON FOR AMMUNITION PER YEAR.
YOU HAVE 50 ROUND OF PRACTICE, 50 ROUNDS OF QUALIFY, IS THAT RIGHT? YES, SIR.
WITH, WITH EACH WEAPON WE QUALIFY WITH OUR SIDE, WE QUALIFY WITH OUR SHOTGUN.
IT'S HARD TO BELIEVE, BUT MAJOR SCHOOL, THOSE GUYS ARE TRAINED ON IT, THEN THEY CAN COME OUT AND THEY CAN USE THE SAME FIREARMS. THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT.
YES, WE HAVE, UH, WE WE'RE ON THE TEAM.
WE'RE RIGHT ACROSS THE, WE'RE ON THE ENTRY CASE.
THEY'RE, YEAH, I MEAN I, I'VE NEVER HAD ALUM ABOUT THAT BECAUSE IT'S EXTRA SET OF EYES ON GLOBE, WHICH REALLY IS, BUT FOR MANY, MANY YEARS THE FIRE MARSHES IN THE STATE OF TEXAS ARE ALL EQUIVALENT POLICE OFFICERS IN OUR CASE ABOVE AND BEYOND BECAUSE OF THE INVESTIGATIVE CERTIFICATION.
SO ANY OTHER BEFORE WE DECIDE ON THIS EXTRA FIRE AND I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE THAT DECISION TODAY POSSIBLY, OR AT LEAST KIND OF LEAN THAT DIRECTION.
DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS BEFORE WE GO TO THE NEXT DEPARTMENT THAT RANDY OVER? OKAY, NEXT ONE BE 5 22, WHICH IS ENVIRONMENTAL.
UH, WE HAVE HAD TWO ENVIRONMENTAL OFFICERS ALL THE WAY DOWN.
I DUNNO IF ANYBODY RECALLS DON BLACK BEFORE WAS BEFORE LINDSEY.
THAT'S WHEN WE STARTED ENVIRONMENTAL EMPLOYMENT AND ALMOST THREE DECADES.
AND THIS COUNTY HAS PROBABLY TRIPLE IT THROUGH WITHIN THAT SAME TIMEFRAME.
AND EACH OF, YOU KNOW, I'M SIT HERE AND SHOW YOU NUMBERS, GRAPHS AND ALL THAT.
YOU KNOW, THE COMPLAINTS THAT YOU'RE GETTING ON ENVIRONMENTAL AND IT'S JUST A MATTER OF HOW, HOW WELL AND TRY TO KEEP THE COUNTER CLEAN AND HEALTHY AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.
WITH THE STAFF THAT WE GOT, WE STILL HAVE A BACKLOG.
THERE'S TWO THAT WE HAVE, WE STILL HAVE A BACKLOG AND, UH, TWO PEOPLE CANNOT KEEP UP WITH THE PUBLIC NUISANCE AND COMPLAINTS IN THE COUNTY OF, THAT'S WHY I'M LOOKING AT, UH, REQUESTING TWO ADDITIONAL.
UH, WE'RE STILL GOING BE IN HURT EVEN IF Y'ALL FUND TWO ADDITIONAL, WE'RE STILL GONNA BE HURTING, UH, EVEN WORSE THAN WE'RE NOW BECAUSE WE, WE'VE WAITED LONG.
JOHNNY IS RETIRING DECEMBER 31ST.
WALTER UH, JUST GOT OUTTA THE HOSPITAL WITH SOME HEALTH ISSUES AND HE'S BEEN LOOKING AT IT.
HE'S ABOUT TO APPROACH HR AND SEE WHAT'S BEST FOR HIM, BUT HE SAYS SOMETIME IN 2018 HE'S GONNA RETIRED.
AND UH, WITH THAT SAID, EVEN IF WE BRING 'EM TO NOW, THOSE GUYS MUST GO THROUGH THAT, THAT SPECIALIZED COURSE FOR THE ENVIRONMENTAL LAWS, UH, PLACES THAT OFFER THAT.
AND THEY HAVE TO BE CERTIFIED IN THE ENVIRONMENTAL LAWS AND TESTIFY IN COURT AND FIELD TRAINING.
JUST GENERAL, YOU KNOW, YOU TAKE A POLICE OFFICER OFF THE STREET, THEY'RE FAMILIAR WITH THE TRUCKS, THEY KNOW, BUT NOW WE HAVE TO TEACH THEM ENVIRONMENTAL LAWS AND GET OUT, WALK THE FIELDS, WALK THE CREEKS, SHOOT OFF THE SNAKES AND RACKS AND EVERYTHING, DIG THROUGH TRASH LITERALLY AND FIND OUT WHO IT'S, SO WE CAN FOLLOW THE PROPER QUESTION.
DID THAT, SO THERE'S GONNA BE, YOU KNOW, I SEE AT LEAST SIX MONTHS OF FIELD TRAINING, WHICH I, I THINK SIX MONTHS IS A PRETTY GOOD AVERAGE BREEDING
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SPECIALIZED FIELD TRAINING, FIELD TRAINING OFFICER.DO THESE GUYS, DO THEY GO ALL OVER THE COUNTY OR DO THEY ENTIRE COUNTY DO THEY HAS MANY THOUGHT OF HAVING ONE ASSIGNED TO A PRECINCT AND NOT MOVE OUTSIDE THAT PRECINCT UNLESS IT WAS SOME SORT OF A MAJOR ISSUE APPROACH WITH THAT CONCEPT FOR SEVERAL YEARS.
UH, THE ONLY BIG DRAWBACK TO THAT IS THIS DEPARTMENT NOT GENERATE MUCH REVENUE.
WHICH LEADS ME BACK TO THE DISCUSSION ABOUT IF THEY COULD BE CROSS TRAINED WITH THE, UH, DEPUTY FIRE MARSHALS, THAT WOULD SURE HELP.
I WOULD THINK I COULD SEE TIME THAT YOU CROSS TRAIN, YOU KNOW, IT'S BENEFICIAL.
UH, THE DRAWBACK WOULD BE HOW ARE YOU GONNA DIVIDE THE TITLE? WE'RE ALREADY BEHIND ENVIRONMENTAL.
WE'RE GETTING BEHIND ENVIRONMENTAL SOCIETY.
I, YOU KNOW, I PERSONALLY WOULD LIKE TO SEE, AND WE MAY NOT BE ABLE TO DO IT ALL ONE YEAR, BUT I PERSONALLY WOULD LIKE TO SEE AN ENVIRONMENTAL OFFICER MAYBE SLASH FIRE DEPUTY FIRE MARSHAL.
THAT COULD BE YOU MAY NOT NEED NEED IN ORDER TO AN ENVIRONMENTAL OFFICER ON THE STREETS.
ALL HE HAS TO DO TO GET THE CERTIFICATION FOR THE ENVIRONMENTAL LAWS OF DR.
JOHN WAS THE ONE PRIMARY TO TEACH THAT COURSE IN TEXAS.
AND ONCE, ONCE THEY RECEIVED THAT CERTIFICATION THROUGH THERE, THEY READY PREP IN ORDER TO BECOME A FIRE INSPECTOR.
THAT IS A, UH, WHEN I WENT THROUGH IT, IT WAS 180 HOUR COURSE ABOUT A FOUR WEEK COURSE, THEN YOU HAVE TO PASS THE STATE EXAM AS WELL.
AND THEN THE SAME APPLIES TO PRIOR INVESTIGATOR.
PRIOR INVESTIGATOR WAS TWO, THE LAST I CHECKED IT WAS TWO, EITHER TWO 40 OR TWO 80 HOURS, FIVE WEEKS.
AND, AND IT IS A STATE CERTIFICATION THAT THEY HAVE TO HOLD THROUGH THE TEXAS COMMISSION.
FIRE PROTECTION OR THEIR CREDENTIAL MEANS NOTHING.
I KNOW WHAT WHAT SEVERAL AMOUNT OF YEAH, THAT'S ONE ADVANTAGE.
BUT YOU GUYS THAT ARE THE FIREMEN AND THE POLICE OFFICERS, Y'ALL UH, Y'ALL SPEAK UP HERE.
SO WHAT, WHAT'S YOUR THOUGHTS? I MEAN, I DON'T WANNA BE THE ONLY ONE DURING THIS DISCUSSION AND DID A GOOD JOB.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT CROSS TRADE, RIGHT? ENVIRONMENTAL.
I, I REALLY THINK IF WE HAVE ENOUGH PEOPLE, WHICH GONNA HAVE FOUR PEOPLE, PERSONNEL, THAT CAN BE DONE AND, AND, AND MAYBE I'M NAIVE THAT PART BECAUSE I DUNNO HOW MANY TIMES, I GUESS HOW MANY CONVICTIONS OR HOW MANY PEOPLE THEY REALLY FIND BEING TRASH.
MOST OF THE TIME I GET CALLS I NEED GO PICK UP A COUCH IN THE COUNTY STATE.
SO I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW IF WE'RE REALLY DOING WHAT WE REALLY WANT TO DO WITH THE OFFICER CHIEF, I, I CAN SHARE THIS WITH YOU.
OF ALL OF THE COMPLAINTS THAT WE GET, 95% OF THOSE COMPLAINTS ARE HANDLED WITHOUT GOING THROUGH CITATIONS, WITHOUT GOING THROUGH THE COURTS.
WE ACTUALLY DO FIND OUT INVESTIGATION.
WE FIND OUT WHO THE CLEANED UP ARE, THE REMAIN 5% THAT WE DON'T KNOW WHO IT'S, WE CAN'T FIND OUT.
OR IF WE DO FIND OUT WHO IT'S, IT'S A BANK OWNED PROPERTY OUT OF NEW YORK AND WE'RE GETTING RUN THROUGH THE BILL TRYING TO FIND THE RIGHT PERSON TO SERVE THE PAPERS ON TO SERVE NOTICE ON.
AND PLUS WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH THE, UH, THE LAWS OF TEXAS.
IT'S NOT AN IMMEDIATE CRIMINAL LAW APPEAL.
WE HAVE TO PROVIDE A 30 DAY NOTICE FOR THEM TO CLEAN THAT PROPERTY UP.
I MEAN I THINK WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, I'M TALKING ABOUT TRASH IN THE ROADWAYS.
YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT JUNK CARS AND STUFF.
PEOPLE'S YARDS AND TALL GRASS AND STUFF.
IF WE CAN'T IDENTIFY WHO THAT IS, THEN WE HAVE TO CLEAN IT UP.
IF IT'S ON COUNTY PROPERTY NOW ON THE PRIVATE SIDE, YOU KNOW WHERE IT'S ON PRIVATE PROPERTY, UH, WE WORK WITH THOSE PEOPLE TO TRY TO GET IT DONE.
MOST OF THE TIME WE DO GET THAT.
SO THOSE CALLS ARE INCREASING IS WHAT INCREASE IS ABOUT PEOPLE TRYING TO TAKE CARE OF THE PROPERTY VALUES BECAUSE THEIR NEIGHBOR HAS GOT A JUNKYARD IN FRONT.
OKAY, SO IT'S NOT SO MUCH THE TRASH AND DUMPED IN THE DITCH THAT Y'ALL CALL US ON SO MUCH ANYMORE, IS IT THAT'S, THAT'S INCREASING ALSO, BUT THE HARD NUMBERS, I DON'T KEEP A DAILY LOG ON THAT
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I CAN PROBABLY GET, WE'LL PROBABLY BREAK IT DOWN.SO I MEAN YOU GOT FIRE INSPECTIONS, YOU JUST HAVE A FEW CALLS WITH A NUISANCE.
I MEAN, I'D LIKE TO JUST NO, THE NUISANCE CAUSED, UH, BY THE REPORTS THAT I PROVIDED THIS MORNING, UH, I SEE MY TRUCK.
BUT, UH, THOSE NUMBERS ARE ON THE RIGHTS.
IT'S ONLY BECAUSE MORE POPULATION MEANS MORE ACCURATE.
IT DOWN'S GONNA BE MORE SPEEDING TICKETS, MORE OF ALL THE OFFENSES OF WHAT THE PUBLIC DOES.
AS, AS THE NUMBERS INCREASE, THOSE TYPES OF OFFENSES ARE ALSO GONNA INCREASE.
COMMERCIAL SIDE JUST EXPECT COMING INTO COMMERCIAL BUSINESS, THAT'S ON DEFINITELY ON THE RIGHT, ESPECIALLY UP AROUND THE CORN AREA.
BUT YOU DON'T DO CITIES DO COUNTY.
WE DO ON THE, ON THE FIRE COMMERCIAL SIDE, ON ON BUILDING CONSTRUCTION, COUNTY OWNED COMMERCIAL BUILDING CONSTRUCTION, UNINCORPORATED COUNTY ON THE ENVIRONMENTAL ENFORCEMENT SIDE, ILLEGAL DUMPINGS IS A, A STATE STATUTE VIOLATION.
DOESN'T MATTER IF IT'S A CITY OR NOT.
UH, PUBLIC WORKS DOESN'T MATTER IF IT'S A CITY OR NOT.
AND I, UH, PRIOR INVESTIGATION PRIMARILY THE UNINCORPORATED COUNTY IS WHERE THE, BUT UNDER STATE LAW, THE CITY CAN REQUEST THE ASSISTANCE.
AND WE ASSIST THEM, BUT WE DON'T TAKE THE ENTIRE CASE ALL THE WAY THROUGH.
WE'LL HELP THEM WITH THE ORIGIN AND CAUSE.
BUT ONCE IT COMES TO A POINT WHERE THAT'S BEEN DETERMINED, WE TURN IT THEM TO DEAL WITH THE INSURANCE COMPANIES OR IF WE FIND SUSPECTS, WE MAY INITIALLY HELP THEM DEVELOP WHO IT WAS AND EVERYTHING.
BUT WHEN IT COMES DOWN TO IF IT'S A CITY, THEN WE, WE PUT IT BACK ON THEM UNLESS THEY WANT IT AS HAS DONE ENTER INTO AN INTER, WE PROVIDE ALL THOSE SERVICES ALL THE WAY WE PROVIDE ALL SERVICES.
WE DO INTER DO YOU THINK IT WOULD, I LIKE THE IDEA OF HAVING ONE OFFICER FOR EACH PRECINCT.
DO YOU THINK THAT PERSON'S CROSS TRAINED IT'D BE MORE EFFECTIVE AND MORE EFFICIENT OPERATION IF WE DID IT LIKE OUT THAT, LIKE PRECINCT THREE THAT GUY'S, HE'S RESPONSIBLE FOR EVERYTHING, FIRE MARSHAL, ENVIRONMENTAL AND PRECINCT THREE AND SO ON.
WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THAT? I THINK THE CONCEPT IS GREAT.
IT'S GETTING THERE IS GONNA BE A PROBLEM BECAUSE OF ALL THE ADDITIONAL TRAINING, ESPECIALLY THE FRUSTRATING FRONT ENVIRONMENTAL TO THE FIRE WON'T BE AS DIFFICULT THAT GOES BECAUSE IT'S A MUCH SHORT SPORT.
IT'S UH, FOUR DAYS I THINK IS WHAT IT TAKES TO GET THE CERTIFICATION.
AND THEN YOU HAVE PORTS EACH YEAR.
I JUST WONDER KIND OF STARTING OUT WITH THIS AND TRY AND MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT IN MIND.
IF WE GET THESE ADDITIONAL FOLKS THAT YOU NEED, YOU KNOW, YOU GOT YOUR OTHER GUYS THAT ARE LEAVING FOR US, IF WE COULD LOOK AT AT LEAST THE TWO REPLACEMENT GUYS, GETTING THEM TRAINED TO DO THAT.
MAYBE DIVIDE IT UP BETWEEN THE TWO SAYING, OKAY, THIS ONE TAKES ONE AND TWO, THIS ONE TAKES THREE TO FOUR PRECINCT UNTIL YOU MISSED THE ADDITIONAL PERSONNEL TO SPLIT IT UP.
UH, I THINK THE CONCEPT IS GREAT.
IT'S GOING TO TAKE A, IT'S GONNA TAKE A LOT ON OUR PART ON PROMOTING OUR COUNTY OF WHAT WE DO BECAUSE BOTH OF 'EM, POLICE OFFICER POSITIONS AND A LOT OF YOUR YOUNGER POLICE OFFICERS ARE NOT INTERESTED.
IN DIGGING THROUGH FIRES AND DIGGING THROUGH THAT.
THEY'RE DEFINITELY NOT INTERESTED IN DIGGING THROUGH SOMEBODY'S TRASH AND THE PIT THEY WANT GET OUT ON THE CHASES TRAFFIC STOP AND ALL THAT.
WELL, YOU KNOW, ALONG THOSE LINES TOO, AS FAR AS LIKE FINDING THE RIGHT PERSON FOR THE JOB, UM, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, YOU PROBABLY DON'T HAVE TIME FOR THE COURSE.
MAYBE WE CAN WORK WITH HR OR SOMETHING, BUT YOU KNOW, LIKE GOING TO SOME OF THESE MILITARY BASES WHEN THEY HAVE THEIR, UH, THEIR JOB FAIRS MIGHT BE A GOOD THING.
YOU KNOW, SET UP A BOOTH FOR A DAY AND BECAUSE I MEAN THERE'S GUYS COMING OUTTA THE MILITARY.
THEY, THEY'RE LOOKING FOR STUFF LIKE THAT.
YOU KNOW, MY, MY ONLY OTHER CONCERN ON THAT IS THE TIME MANAGEMENT PART OF IT.
CERTAIN CASES AND SOME OF THESE ENVIRONMENTAL CASES CAN GET INTO AL JET TAKING THAT HAT OFF IN THE MIDDLE OF THAT IN ORDER TO GO CATCH THIS OTHER TYPE OF CALL.
AND THEN COMING BACK AND PUTTING THAT HAT BACK ON.
KIND OF CONCERNED WITH THAT AS FAR AS TIME MANAGEMENT GOES AND HOW WELL OUT.
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UH, UNLIKE THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE, YOU KNOW, THEIR INVESTIGATORS, THEY ONLY INVESTIGATE WHAT'S PASSED ON THEM FROM PATROL OFFICER OFFICIATES THE CASE.THEY PASS IT ON TO THE INVESTIGATOR, THEY'LL INVESTIGATE IT PRESENT TO THE, WE TAKE IT FROM START TO FINISH.
WELL, I DON'T, YOU KNOW, I THINK WE'RE NOT GONNA RESOLVE THIS TODAY, BUT THAT MAYBE GET WITH SOME OF YOUR GUYS AND UH, UH, FOLKS THAT YOU WORK WITH AND UH, LET'S AT LEAST GIVE THIS AN HONEST HEARING AND SEE IF I'VE ALREADY PRESENTED IT TO MY STAFF, BUT I HAVE FIRE MARSH ON THIS.
UH, ONE IN PARTICULAR NOT REAL WELL ABOUT WELL THEY'RE FIXING TO LEAVE AND I CAN UNDERSTAND THAT.
UH, BUT SOMEBODY KNEW COMING IN.
WELL THAT'S WHY THEY DON'T RUN.
THAT'S WHAT THEIR DUTIES BE THEN, UH, MAKE A DECISION TODAY ON THE NUMBER.
BUT I THINK I WANNA PRESENT TO THE DI HEAR IT.
OH, THE UNSEEN STUFF IS GONNA BE A TREMENDOUS BURDEN.
THE COUNTY KEEPS GROWING, YOU KNOW, SO IT'S UH, THIS IS THE STUFF THAT YOU JUST DON'T SEE OUT.
THERE'S NOT ON FACE OF THE COUNTY.
SO, BUT I HOPE I'VE ADDRESSED TO YOU THAT.
YOU UNDERSTAND THERE, THERE IS JUST A MATTER AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, YOUR PEOPLE OUTSIDE THE BOX CHANGE DEALT WITH FIREFIGHTERS FOR TOO LONG.
YOU WANNA MOVE A CHAIR IN THE DAY.
I WAS ONE OTHER DIAMETER HOSE.
IT'S TO BE DETERMINED FUND OH FOUR NINE.
THE ONLY CHANGE ON THAT WOULD BE TRANSFERRING FUNDS, WHATEVER WE DECIDE TO DO TO SUPPLEMENT AND ON THE VEHICLE, WHATEVER WE DECIDE TO LEASE OR PURCHASE OR WHATEVER.
YOU STILL WANT ME TO FOLLOW UP TO TRY TO GET ALL THAT INFORMATION.
JUDGE, YOU NEEDS HAVE ANY, NEEDS ALL I DON'T NEED ANYTHING REALLY, HONESTLY.
UM, I THINK Y'ALL HAVE ME DOWN IS, LET'S SEE, DO YOU THINK WE'VE OFFICIALLY NOMINATED YOU LUCK, MARK? WERE OFFICIALLY DESIGNATED AS THE, UH, WEEKS, UH, YEAH, WORKING ON, UM, A REQUESTING BUDGET.
UH, ALL, ALL I CAN SAY, I MEAN IN GENERALITIES IS THE LAW OPERATED BUDGET.
THE BOOKS EVERY YEAR GO UP ANYWHERE FROM FOUR TO 6% MINIMUM.
A LOT OF, UM, A LOT OF WHAT WE HAVE IS STARTING TO BE ONLINE KIND OF STUFF THAT WE CAN DO RESEARCH AND THE PUBLIC CAN DO THAT.
WE HAVE, UH, THE PUBLIC HAS ACCESS TO SOME TERMINALS THERE.
UM, AND IN FACT, TWO OF THE VOLUMES, I BELIEVE IT WAS TEXT JURISPRUDENCE AND, UH, ENOS LITIGATION GUIDE, WE'RE DOING WORK WITH THOSE.
THAT'S, THAT'S ABOUT A 15,000 A YEAR SAVING RIGHT THERE.
BUT EVEN IN SPITE OF THAT, I WAS GONNA SEE IF THE COURT CONSIDER ALLOWING US TO INCREASE OUR BUDGET YEAR ON UP TO 60,000, WHICH IS ABOUT ABOUT 7,000 INCREASE.
UM, AND LOSING FIVE AWAY LESS.
THANK YOU FOR POINTING THAT OUT.
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I DON'T, HONESTLY, I I'VE GOT ALL THE FURNITURE I NEED RIGHT NOW.SO IF, IF YOU NEED TO DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT, DOES, DOES EVERY JUDGE USE THE LAW LIBRARY? EVERYBODY, EVERY, EVERY, EVERYBODY SHARES IT.
WHAT I WAS GONNA SAY IS ALL FOUR JUDGES USED THAT LAW LIBRARY WHEN JUDGE DA WILEY TOOK THE DA POSITION, JUDGE RICH WAS NICE ENOUGH TO GIVE HER ALL THE UPDATED BOOKS THAT SHE NEEDED.
AND IT WAS LIKE $8,000, IF I REMEMBER RIGHT.
JUDGE BRIDGE THERE AND THE COUNTY DIDN'T HAVE TO PAY FOR IT.
THIS IS NOT REALLY COUNTING MONEY.
IT'S IN A SEPARATE FUND RIGHT NOW HE'S SITTING AT WITH A FUND BALANCE OF A LITTLE OVER 220,000.
SO HE'S GOT THE MONEY TO INCREASE THIS BUDGET THAT WE'RE JUST TAKING THE MONEY OUT.
YOU DIDN'T KNOW THAT ONE SHARED BY ALL THE JUDGES.
WE, WE HAD, WE HAD LOT, WE HAVE BOOKS THAT WE BOUGHT FOR THE LAW LIBRARY AND THEN WE HAVE ADDITIONAL BOOKS THAT WE BUY.
SOME JUDGES WANT THROUGH INDIVIDUAL SETS.
THEY DIFFERENT KIND OF PUBLICATIONS.
AND SO WE, WE GO THROUGH AND TRY TO FIND OUT WHAT THEY LIKE AND TRY TO ACCOMMODATE THEM THE BEST WE CAN.
BUT BOOKS ARE JUST, I MEAN, IT'S JUST UNBELIEVABLE HOW THEY, AND SO WE'RE TRYING TO CUT A LOT OF THAT OUT AND UM, THIS NEXT YEAR I'M GONNA BE TALKING EVEN MORE TO THE JUDGES AND SEE IF WE CAN CUT SOME MORE THINGS OUT.
UH, BECAUSE MOST OF THIS STUFF IS STARTING A LONG LINE NOW.
UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE DO, WE PAY FOR, UM, THE TERMINALS AND LEXUS AND WESTLAW FOR THE PUBLIC TO COME IN AND USE IF THEY'RE, UM, NEED TO DO SOME RESEARCH AND, UH, I DON'T KNOW, DO YOU, DO YOU RECALL SMITH, WHAT THE, WHAT THE AMOUNT OF THAT IS? UM, IF I'M TAKING AN EDUCATED GUESS, I THINK IT'S AROUND 20,000 A YEAR.
JUST, JUST TO BACK FOR THE PUBLIC.
AND I HAVEN'T RESEARCHED THIS.
MY QUESTION IS DO WE HAVE TO DO THAT? UH, MAYBE WE DO.
MAYBE I LOOK AT THE GOVERNMENT CODE AND SEE IF THAT HAS TO BE PROVIDED.
CERTAINLY A, A LAW LIBRARY IS IN THE GOVERNMENT CODE, BUT DO WE HAVE TO PROVIDE AN INTERNET SERVICE? ALL THOSE SORTS OF FEATURES THAT, THAT, THAT COST.
AND THESE ARE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT I REALLY NEED TO LOOK AT.
PROBABLY SHOULD DONE JUST SURE.
I WOULD THINK THAT YOU WOULDN'T HAVE TO PROVIDE THAT INTERNET.
THEY DON'T LIKE HAVE LAWYER IN THE WHOLE CITY IN THE WHOLE COUNTY.
EVERYBODY'S GOT ALL THESE SERVICES NOW THAT COMES TO THEIR OFFICE, SO THEY DON'T USE IT ANYMORE.
YOU KNOW, DON'T HOLD ME TO THIS, BUT JUST MY IMPRESS JUST SITTING HERE FOR A MOMENT IS DO AWAY WITH IT IF WE COULD, BUT OTHER JUDGES AND OTHER PEOPLE MAY HAVE SOME, HAVE SOME INPUT ON THAT.
IT, IT MAY VERY WELL BE, WE HAVE TO DO THAT.
THAT'S, AND IT MAY BE FOR CERTAIN SIZE COUNTIES OR SOMETHING, YOU KNOW HOW THEY WRITE THE LAW, SO YEAH.
DEPEND ON THE SIZE OF THE COUNTY.
SO I GUESS, UM, WHERE YOU TAKE MORE FROM HERE, FEES SQUARE.
WELL, IF IT NOT, WE EVEN, WE EVEN BUDGETED AT ONE TIME 50% OF THE SALARY AND BENEFITS FOR THE COUNTY COURT OF LAW TOO.
PERSON SALARY STAFF TO BE ABLE TO WORK IN THE LIBRARY AND PUT THE STUFF BACK LIKE HE WAS SUPPOSED TO BE.
YEAH, WE HAVE A, SO THAT'S, THAT'S MY, THAT'S MY ASKING QUESTION FOR YOU'RE GOOD.
ARE Y'ALL DONE WITH ME? YOU'RE GOOD.
ALRIGHTY, LET'S MOVE TO STEVE.
YOU IN A HURRY? NO SIR, I'M NOT.
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THIS IS A 10.BE HERE AND I NEED A DEPUTY CHAIR.
STEVE HAS, UH, HE'S IN THE FIRST SECTION I BELIEVE ON AGAIN, AND HE HAS PRESENTED AND I THINK YOU'VE HAD A CHANCE TO, UH, UH, LOOK, UH, AT WHAT HE TALKING ABOUT.
SO STEVE, YOU WANT READ US A LETTER? UH, SENT, UH, EVERYTHING I COULD THIS AND ESSENTIALLY THE, THE CHANGES IN MY BUDGET ARE TAKING MY PART-TIME DEPUTY COORDINATOR TO A FULL-TIME POSITION OR THE COST OF THAT WOULD BE THE OFFSET BY BIG GRANT AND THE COUNTY WOULD PICK UP THE DIFFERENCE.
UH, THE INCREASE IN CELL PHONE ALLOWANCE, WHICH I CAN ALSO GET SOME OF THAT OFFSET BY THE SAME GRANT.
UM, THE OTHER BIG ONE WAS THE EMERGENCY NOTIFICATION SYSTEM.
THERE WASN'T PRICE INCREASE IN THAT, BUT TO ME IT, IT'S NOT THAT THAT MUCH FOR THE BENEFITS THAT WE RECEIVE.
YOU KNOW, IT'S VERY WELL WORTHWHILE AND THE FACT THAT A LOT OF THE NEW FEATURES AND STUFF THAT THEY PUSH OUT, THEY HAVE NOT CHARGED US FOR.
UH, THEY'VE JUST INCLUDED THAT IN OUR PRICE.
SO, UM, THAT'S, THAT'S PRETTY MUCH IT.
EVERYTHING ELSE IS PRETTY MUCH THE SAME.
I DID NOT PUT IN THERE FOR A VEHICLE FOR THE DEPUTY COORDINATOR.
I FIGURED I COULD FIND ONE THAT SOMEBODY WAS GONNA PUT IN THE AUCTION OR SOMETHING TO MAKE DO WITH TWO OR THREE YEARS UNTIL WE COULD, YOU KNOW, SEE WHAT WE COULD DO TO PURCHASE A NEW, NEW OR NEW EARTH VEHICLE.
HOW ABOUT THE EMERGENCY NOTIFICATION SYSTEM? HOW MANY PEOPLE DO WE HAVE THAT ARE ON THAT COUNTYWIDE? DO YOU KNOW? COUNTYWIDE? UH, THE LANDLINE STUFF IS ABOUT 30,000 PEOPLE.
AND WE HAVE, UH, JUST SHORT OF 5,000 CELL PHONES ON THE SYSTEM AND UH, I KNOW YOU CAN, YOU DON'T HAVE TO NOTIFY THE WHOLE COUNTY.
YOU CAN DO THE AREAS THAT ARE EFFECTIVE IN.
SO, AND, AND THAT IS ONE FEATURE THAT THE, THAT THEY GAVE US FOR FREE LAST YEAR IS WE'VE TIED PART OF IT INTO THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE.
SO FOR FLASH FLOOD WARNINGS AND TORNADO WARNINGS, THEY ACTUALLY FEED INFORMATION TO OUR SYSTEM AND IT TRANSMITS THAT WARNING IN THEIR POLYMERS.
THAT ESSENTIALLY TAKES ME OUT OF, AS A MIDDLEMAN.
SO IT A LITTLE LESS TIME IN GETTING IT TO THE PEOPLE.
SO, SO HE CUT HIS SALARY? WELL HE MIGHT HAVE, HE MIGHT HAVE EXPLAINED THAT TO ME BECAUSE I WAS GONNA ASK YOU LAST FEW STORM, HAVEN'T BEEN NOTIFIED, ALWAYS BEEN NOTIFIED.
PHONE VOICE ON PHONE IF YOU WEREN'T IN POLYGON, IT'S NOT GONNA, IT MUST BEEN THAT WAY BEFORE.
I, AND IT ALSO DEPENDS ON WHERE I NOTIFY FROM.
SO IF I'M, YOU KNOW, AT THE CONFERENCE IN SAN ANTONIO OR SOMEPLACE, I CAN STILL SEND IT OUT, BUT I CAN'T NARROW IT DOWN.
I HAVE TO SEND IT PRETTY MUCH TO THE ENTIRE COUNTY.
OH, WHEN YOU'RE AWAY VACATION.
WHEN I'M WAY ON VACATION, THEN I CAN YOU JUST NOTIFY THE WHOLE COUNTY.
I NOTIFIED THE WHOLE COUNTY AND LIKE WE HAVE TO BIG FRAME, YOU KNOW, THAT WAS SCENARIO.
WAS IT NOT WEATHER SERVICE, FLOOD? YES, THEY DID.
AFTER YOU CALLED? AFTER I CALLED THEM, THEY WEREN'T SEEING THE RAINFALL THAT WE WERE GETTING.
YEAH, THEY DIDN'T EVEN NOTICE IT.
THEY HAD THEIR LIGHTS OFF SEVERAL HOURS TOO, DIDN'T THEY? YES.
AND UH, YOU KNOW, KNOW WHEN I HAD WATER UP MY RUNNING BOARDS AND CITY OF TERRELL FLOODED OUT ONE OF THEIR FIRE ENGINES TO ME THAT'S A PRETTY BIG FLOOD.
YEAH, I SAW, SAW PICTURES OF THAT.
IT JUST THE FIRST YEAR TO PAY FOR, WE, WE'VE HAD THIS PARTICULAR GRANT SINCE 2004.
UM, THERE IS NO GUESSING HOW LONG IT WILL LAST.
HOW MUCH IS IT? UH, TOTAL GRANT IS 40 2007 88 I BELIEVE.
AND THAT'S PART OF THE WE SALARY
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FOR THE ASSISTANT TOO.THAT'S ALSO FOR OTHER PART-TIME RIGHT NOW IT COVERS BOTH PART-TIME PEOPLE AND THEY GOING IT BE TWO AND A HALF OF YOU, IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? YOU I'M GOING GO LIST AND TELL HER SHE COUNTS AS HALF I I'LL BE RIGHT THERE BEHIND YOU.
WE BUDGET TWO AND HALF PERSONNEL.
TWO AND HALF PERSONNEL BUDGET THAT GRANT REVENUE.
BUT WE ALSO BUDGET ABOUT $8,000 BECAUSE IN THE MONTH OF JULY THEY'LL SEND OUT THE INVOICES TO ALL THOSE ENTITIES THAT OWE US FOR THAT NOTIFICATION.
SO, AND WE NOTIFY WHETHER IT'S IN THE CITY OR OR COUNTY OR WHEREVER.
I MEAN EVERYBODY GETS, YES, THEY'RE ON THE LIST, BUT THEY
AT LEAST RIGHT NOW THERE'S THREE CITIES THAT SUPPORT US.
UH, CAROL, UH, CAMP AND
AND IT'S BASED UPON, IT SEEMS THEY BOIL DOWN TO ABOUT, I WON'T SAY 40 OR 45 CENTS EACH PERSON.
AND SO WE LOOK THE POPULATION AND WHAT THEY OWE.
SO WITH, YOU KNOW, THERE'S UH, LANDLINES ARE DECLINING IN CELL PHONES FOR INCREASING AND I KNOW Y'ALL ARE TRYING TO GET MORE INFORMATION ON THE CELL PHONE.
WE WE'RE WORKING AT MELISSA, I CANNOT SAY ENOUGH GOOD ABOUT HER.
SHE BEATS THE BUSHES LEFT AND RIGHT TRYING TO GET PEOPLE ON OUR EMERGENCY NOTIFICATION SYSTEM AND YOU KNOW, TRYING TO BUILD THOSE NUMBERS.
AND MOST OF THE TIME IT'S JUST THE FACT THAT PEOPLE DON'T KNOW THAT.
PEOPLE DON'T WANT TO KNOW THAT THEY CAN DO THAT.
AND WE'RE SLOWLY BUT SURELY BRINGING MORE AND MORE PEOPLE ON EVERY MONTH.
SO LAST YEAR THE CITY OF KEMP PAID US 500 AND CITY OF CARROLL PAID US 6,000.
NOBODY ELSE PAID REMINDER CAROL'S ON THE SYSTEM.
AND I WON'T SAY HOW IT WAS PUT, BUT THEY REFUSED TO PAY ANYMORE.
AND UH, I WAS NOT HAPPY WITH THE WAY THAT THEY PORTRAYED US, ASKING THEM TO BE ON THE SYSTEM.
SO NOT SOME KIND OF AGREEMENT WITH THIS, HUH? WE NOT SOME KIND OF AGREEMENT.
NOTHING AS FAR AS A CONTRACT I GOT, SO, OKAY.
WHAT DO YOU WANT TO DO WITH THIS REQUEST TO ADD A PART, UH, INCREASE OF 12,000? UH, AND THAT WOULD YOU UNDERSTAND THAT WOULD, UH, WE HAVE THE, UH, RETIREMENT AND UH, I WENT WITH, WENT TO LAURIE AND SHE SENT ME INFORMATION.
SO ALL OF THAT SHOULD BE INCLUDED.
THAT'S THE 12,000 WOULD INCLUDE THEN ALL OF ALL THAT THERE'S 12,000 IN BANK SALARY.
BUT IF YOU LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, THE RETIREMENT AND STUFF THAT IS ALSO IN RETIREMENT.
HE HAD IT ON THEIR SOCIAL SECURITY WENT UP 193 AND, AND SO THAT YOU, YOU KNOW, WE DID NOT PREVIOUSLY TAKE OUT RETIREMENT FOR PART-TIME EMPLOYEES SAID WE WERE SUPPOSED TO.
BUT WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE DOING IT NOW, WE'D HAVE TO MOVE THAT PERSON OUTTA THAT COURT PLAN, PUT ANOTHER LINE ITEM THAT AND STILL PAY PART THE GRANT.
THE GRANT WOULD COME AS THE REVENUE SIDE.
SO IT WOULD OFFSET A LITTLE BIT.
SO THE SUPPLEMENT WOULD BE SOME AMOUNT TO BE DETERMINED AND INCLUDE INSURANCE.
WAS IT THE CALCULATION? SO THE 12,000 IS NOT REALLY A TRUE, UH, I GAVE YOU INSURANCE.
THE 12 IS THE BASE SALARY, WHAT WE PAID THEM.
AND IN OTHER WORDS, YOU'RE LOOKING ABOUT A $20,000 YEAR INCREASE.
THE INSURANCE HERE ITT IN, IT'S NOT IN THERE BECAUSE OH, WE DON'T INCLUDE THAT IN THE DIRECT ONE.
BUT IT'S NOT A, IT'S NOT A BUDGET.
GIVE THAT TO NOT IN THERE BECAUSE IT'S NOT SIX.
BUT FOR A YEAR RIGHT NOW THAT'S NOT IN MY BUDGET.
ALL I CAN SEE IS I DID MY BEST.
I GAVE IT TO YOU AS A HIGHLIGHTED ITEM IN BETWEEN THAT IT WASN'T
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A DIRECT BUDGET ITEM ITEM THOUSAND.AND IT'S DEBBIE NIXON, WHO IS OUR CURRENT DEPUTY, HAS A BACKGROUND IN LAW ENFORCEMENT AND WAS THE CHIEF FOR STATES FOR ABOUT 14 YEARS.
I DON'T THINK SHE ENFORCEMENT, SHE STILL GOT IT.
UH, WITH THIS SCARES YOUR MIND OF DIGGING IN TRASH.
UH, BUT ANYWAY, SHE'S, SHE'S GOT LAW ENFORCEMENT BACKGROUND.
I'VE GOT THE FIRE BACKGROUND AND SO SHE CAN SPEAK, TALK TO POLICE OFFICERS AND I CAN SPEAK PRIOR TO THE FIRE.
WELL, I MEAN THE ISSUE IS THAT WE'RE, WE'VE GONE FROM A COST OF 12,030.
SO, BUT, BUT GRANT, THAT'S, THAT INCLUDES GRANT FUNDS.
THIS IS AN ADDITIONAL TO THE GRANT 12,000.
THE THE GRANT THAT WAS 40 47 47, OF COURSE SEVEN 38,000 OF THAT GRANT IS COVERING THEIR SALARIES CURRENTLY.
SO THEIR ACTUAL SALARY, I'M ASKING FOR AN INCREASE OF 12,000 BUCKS TO DEBBIE STARRY TO TAKE IT FROM 22 TO 34.
AND UH, THEN I INCREASE THE SOCIAL SECURITY AND RETIREMENT FOR THOSE.
AND THEN THE INSURANCE AND INSURANCE.
I DIDN'T HAVE IT IN MY BUDGET TO PUT IN THERE.
SO DIDN'T DO SIR BUY INSURANCE ON HER NOW? NO, SHE'S PART-TIME BECAUSE SHE'S ONLY PART-TIME.
AND, UM, THE, THE RETIREMENT PIECE, WE'RE GONNA HAVE HALF OF THAT ANYWAY BECAUSE SHE'S ON THAT OTHER LIST.
SO HALF OF THAT IS GOING IS A NO BRAINER.
SO THIS IS, WE'D HAVE TO, HALF OF THAT IS WHAT THE REAL COST WOULD BE.
I GUESS PART OF IT COULD BE THE HALF THE INSURANCE COULD BE PAID OUTTA THAT GRANT IF FUNDS.
WELL, I MEAN IF EVEN IF YOU MOVE THAT AROUND, WE'RE STILL SAME DOLLAR.
SO JUST THE 12,000 INCREASE WITH THE EXTRA, UM, INSURANCE THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT, IT ACTUALLY COMES UP TO 23 6.
THAT'S AND THE $900 CELL PHONE ALLOWANCE? NO.
WELL NO, BUT THAT BRINGS UP TO 24 5, 700 $80 OF THAT CELL PHONE.
WE CAN PAY FROM THE, UH, THE GRANT, THE MAJORITY OF IT WOULD BE COVERED.
SO A HUNDRED TWENTY FIFTY, TWENTY FOUR GRAND.
YEAH, I'M TRYING TO PULL EVERYTHING I COULD FROM THE GRANT TO HELP.
SO WHAT WANT DO FOR WHAT IT WORTH LIVING AND HIS ACTUALLY DOES A REALLY GOOD JOB OUT THERE WHENEVER I HAVE TO DEAL WITH HER WITH THAT GRANT.
WELL I, OF WHAT HE DOES UNTIL WE NEED IT LIKE VANTA COUNTY, THIS IS ONE OF THE THINGS OUR NEXT YEAH, I MEAN WHAT THEY DO PREPARING THIS FOR WHAT HAPPENED IN VANTA COUNTY AND THEN REALLY THE WORK STARTS WITH FEMA AND STUFF LIKE THAT AFTER THE FACT.
JUST A PAPERWORK NIGHTMARE TO TRY TO GET.
SO IF WE GOT THE PEOPLE, I MEAN, AND I DON'T, I DON'T WANT TO, HE STILL WORKING 2015.
I WANT EVERYBODY TO UNDERSTAND THE IMPORTANCE OF WHAT HE DOES.
NOW, I DON'T KNOW IF WE WANT TO PAY THE MONEY FOR THE EXTRA PERSON FULL TIME, BUT THIS FOREMAN IS KIND OF ONE OF THE IN THE BASEMENT AND IT NEVER COME OUT UNTIL YOU NEED THEM.
YOU'RE, YOU KNOW, AND WHAT I'D SAY ABOUT STEVE, YOU KNOW, BACK WHENEVER THE, UH, EXPLOSION DOWN AT WEST, YOU KNOW, FERTILIZER PLANT, I REMEMBER THAT THAT COUNTY WAS DEEP OUT OF COMPLIANCE.
I REMEMBER CHANNEL LAKE CAME AND INTERVIEWED AND WE WERE UH, RIGHT ON WHERE WE NEEDED TO BE.
I MEAN WE HAD THE COMMITTEE AT BED AND ALL THAT.
AND SO THERE'S SOMETHING WORTH THAT AS FAR AS THE LIABILITY, YOU KNOW, CONCERNED.
SO THAT'S THE ONE THING I'VE LEARNED OUT ALL.
IF YOU GET YOU IN TROUBLE, WE NEED THIS MAN AND THEY NEED THERE TOO.
HE GOT MAD AT I KNOW WE NEED THAT ABOUT E AND FROM MY EXPERIENCE WITH FEMA, WHEN WE HAD THE HURRICANE DOWN IN HOUSTON AND GALVESTON AREA, THEY WERE PAIN PEOPLE WITH AND THINGS
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HAD NOT BEEN RECORDED CORRECTLY WHEN I GOT ON SCENE.SO I HAD TO DO A BUNCH CORRECTIONS AND GET IT RECORDED.
AND STEVE AND BITING US DOWN TO ATTEND FOR THE FINANCIAL PARTS OF IT AND STUFF REALLY HELPED.
IT WAS MORE ORGANIZED AND HE HAD THE RIGHT FORMS AND THE INFORMATION.
SO I APPRECIATED THAT BECAUSE ONE OTHER QUESTION ARE, ARE WE AS FAMOUS PAID US EVERYTHING REVIEW OR WILL WE STILL WE STILL HAVE ONE ROAD FROM PRECINCT ONE THAT WE'RE, WE'RE FINISHING UP ON.
I'VE GONE TO EACH OF THE PRECINCTS AND, AND OUR CONSULTANT HAS GONE AND WE'RE ABOUT TO CLOSE ALL OF THAT OUT.
WE GOTTA TO FINISH UP OUR BRIDGES STARTS TOMORROW.
WELL CAN YOU, CAN YOU, UH, TELL US A TOTAL ON THAT ROUGHLY? KAREN COULD PROBABLY TELL A BETTER NUMBER, BUT I'M ESTIMATING SOMEWHERE AROUND A MILLION DOLLARS THAT WE GOT BACK FROM PAYING THREE CLAIMS. IT'S JUST UPSTATE THAT WE NEED THE BANK.
THERE'S BOTTOM LINE, REALLY 70 YOURS AND IT WAS, UH, 78, 79.
THERE'S TWO BUDGET AMENDMENTS THERE.
THAT WE, Y'ALL PRAY THIS MORNING.
WE'LL MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS, UH, WITH AS OUTLINED.
UH, THAT CONCLUDES THE PART OF THE BUDGET PROCESS, BUT UH, THE OFFICE HERE WITH US THIS MORNING, HE WAS HELD THE COURT HONOR WAS TODAY AT LEAST THAT'S WHAT HE SAID.
I THINK IT JUST BE VERIFIED TWO DISTRICT JUDGES.
WELL, AND WE, WE OBVIOUSLY JUST HAVING A WORKSHOP TODAY.
WE HAVEN'T THE AGENDA ACTION, BUT THE, WE'RE NOT TAKING ANY ACTION TODAY.
THE IDEA WAS ON THE ISSUE WITH THE HENDERSON HENDERSON COUNTY LINE IF YOUR WOULD BE ABLE TO ASSIST.
WELL THERE'S A, I DIDN'T THINK ABOUT, I ACTUALLY
BUT HAVE YOU SHARE WITHERS, UH, LETTER FROM 10 YEARS AGO SENT, DID WE ANGIE, THAT WAS SENT TO JACKIE FOR SURE.
OH, I WAS IT 93 OR SOMETHING OR NO, IT WASN'T, NO.
93 WAS A MAINTENANCE ON ROAD, UH, COUNTY LINE ROAD MAINTENANCE.
WELL, WE CAN MAKE SURE YOU GET A COPY.
THE REASON I BRING THAT UP IS THAT, UH, READING THROUGH THAT, UH, THIS PAST WEEK IS, IT APPEARS TO ME THAT THAT THE LEAST CONTENTIOUS THING FOR THE COUNTY TO DO IS TO HENDERSON COUNTY AND GENERAL LAND OFFICE TO SIMPLY TELL.
THAT WAS ONE OF, I THINK THEY TRIED THAT, DIDN'T THEY? AND I THINK, UH, I KNOW THAT THEY WENT THERE AT ONE TIME.
JIM DE AND, AND JUDGE T WENT DOWN THERE AND SPOKE TO THE GENERAL LAND OFFICE AND, AND JIM TOLD, THEY SAID THEY DIDN'T WANT RIGHT.
THEY DIDN'T WANNA BE INVOLVED WITH COURT ACCORDING OF CHUCK'S LETTER.
IT'S THEIR RESPONSIBILITY NOW.
SAME PEOPLE MIGHT NOT BE THERE.
PROBABLY MIGHT BE A GOOD THING TO GO BACK IF IT WAS.
COMMISSIONER, I, UH, I JUST, AND I TRIED TO, I WAS TO TALK TO BUT SINCE HE DECIDED TO GO TO MEXICO, SO I COULDN'T TALK TO WELL, I DID WHAT VERY AMEN.
AND, AND I THINK I, I THINK WHAT MY RECOMMENDATION AT THIS POINT WOULD BE, MAYBE THAT YOU AND DOWN AND, AND TALK IT OUT AMONG AND I'D BE, I'D BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO JOIN, FACILITATE DISCUSSION.
JUST A ROUND TABLE DISCUSSION WOULD BE GOOD.
THAT IS, I THINK IT'S A GOOD STARTING POINT.
AND I, AND I, I CERTAINLY BE GLAD SUBJECT THAT FACT BE EVERY TIME.
SEE
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WILL SEE IF WE FIND THAT LETTER THAT WE SENT, UH, JACKIE.AND UH, I KNOW YOU SENT ME ONE BUT I DIDN'T, I SENT IT TO YOU.
SENT ME I'LL WHEN I GET BACK TO THE OFFICE.
I'M ALSO A COPY OF OTHER ALRIGHTY.
WE'RE SET TO GO IN THE MORNING AT ONE O'CLOCK EIGHT MORNING.
OH THE 15 I GOT WHAT? 15? EIGHT 15 IS EIGHT 15.
DO WE HAVE SCHEDULE? SCHEDULE? I KNOW IT'S CHANGED UP.