* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [00:00:16] I, IT'S KIND OF INTERESTING, YOU KNOW, LIKE SHE'S GOT A LOT OF RECORD MANAGEMENT AND IT HAS TO BE IN A SEPARATE FUND BECAUSE NEEDS TO USE THAT REQUIRED THIS PROCESS THAT ONLY GONNA BE AROUND, TURN OFF THE INTERNET. AND I MEAN, FROM A TO POINT B, IT DOESN'T SAY ANYTHING ABOUT, IT DOESN'T SAY ANYTHING ABOUT PARK. PARK COUNTY DOESN'T THAT IT'S THE PROMISED LAND. THAT'S RIGHT. PRETTY. I TELL YOU WHAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S BEAUTIFUL ROAD. WELL, THIS ONE WAS A LAKE, PRETTY, PRETTY UP THERE. THEY, HE COME DRIVE US FROM THE REAL COUNTY. RIGHT. , WE GOT SEVERAL LAKEFRONT PROPERTIES. THAT'S WHAT I, THAT'S WHAT'S WHAT I TELL HIM ALL THE TIME. PEOPLE CALL, SAY, GUY CALLED ME THE OTHER DAY, SAID HE WAS GOING DOWN TO THE, OH, BLESS. WELL YOU CAN'T HAVE THAT. NO. I SAID, OH, WELL PUT ON THAT. I SAID PUT A LID ON . OH, THAT'S MY MIND HAS TO SLIDE SO I COULD SLIDE. WELL AND THAT THIS IS A WORLD OF DIFFERENCE, RIGHT. I HAD ONE CALL AND NOT THE CB JOINT OUTTA THE CAR, GET THE WATER. LUCKILY WAS IN ONE INCORPORATED AREAS THAT WASN'T COUNTY. [00:05:03] NO, NO SAY WAS GONNA BE SENDING THE BILL TO US FOR DAMAGE TO HIS CAR. I GAVE HIM Y'ALL'S INFORMATION. THANK YOU. A LAURIE'S ALL THAT INSURANCE UP TODAY. . SORRY, I'M ZONE OUT. I WOULDN'T BE LISTENING. I GOT THE THINGS ON MY MIND ON FACEBOOK. NO. IS THAT REAL COMPUTER? I OH NO. PLUGS, CUTS OUT. I NOTICED THAT RIGHT UP. ANY TEXT MESSAGE IN THE FUTURE. ALRIGHT, WE, WE POSTED THE MEETING AGAIN AT EIGHT 15 JUST TO KIND OF HAVE A, I GUESS WHAT YOU CALL A SESSION. SO WE'VE DONE THAT. EVERYBODY READY TO BEGIN TO FIGURE OUT TURN NEW FANCY TECHNOLOGY. YEAH. SOME OF OUR CAN'T WORK TECHNOLOGY. SO WE'VE GOT A NEW, UH, A NEW EVERYBODY, A NEW AGENDA. WE START OFF WITH, UH, WE'VE MOVED, UH, BRENDA, UH, AND SHE'S SCHEDULED FOR TOMORROW, BUT WE MOVED HER UP TO UH, UH, NINE 40 THIS MORNING. AND THEN I JUST TEXTED MR. OLDFIELD AND HE WOULD BE COMING IN AT UH, 10 THIS MORNING, WHICH WE DIDN'T HAVE ANYTHING. AND HE'S AGREED TO COME IN AT 10. SO IF YOU WANNA GO AHEAD AND WRITE THOSE IN, THAT'LL GIVE US OUT A LITTLE EARLIER. SO, UH, THAT, THINK EVERYBODY ABOUT THAT. SO MS. RAY, IF YOU WANT TO COME UP, TELL WHAT YOU HAVE ON AGENDA. I DON'T HAVE MUCH. UM, I JUST, MY FEES. UM, FOR LEXINEXIS, YOU KNOW, EVERY YEAR FOR CONTRACT WE HAVE TO GO UP 3% EACH YEAR. SO I'M JUST ASKING FOR MY 3% ON THAT. OKAY. SO THE, ALL THE COURT WILL KNOW. TELL US HOW LEXI NEXUS STEPS YOU DO YOUR JOB. OKAY. UM, LEXINEXIS HELPS ME WITH THE BACKGROUND CHECKS TO MAKE SURE THAT THE PEOPLE THAT APPLY WITH ME, THAT EVERYTHING THEY PUT ON THEIR APPLICATION IS TRUE AND CORRECT TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, THEY MAY SAY THEY DON'T WORK OR HAVE AN INCOME. IT GIVES ME THE INFORMATION TO LET ME KNOW IF THEY DO HAVE TO WORK OR HAVE AN INCOME OR IF THEY'RE EVEN MARRIED AND THEY DON'T, THEIR SPOUSE DOWN OR, OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. IT GIVES THEM THE ABILITY GO IN THERE AND CHECK THAT TYPE OF STUFF. SO, YOU KNOW, OCCASION YOU HAVE SOMEONE THAT WILL NOT BE HONEST, BE HONEST. SO THEY JUST DON'T REMEMBER. THEY DON'T REMEMBER. YEAH. SO IT IS A GOOD CHECK. AND I YES, IT SOME, YES. I HAVE CAUGHT A FEW IN THE PAST. MATTER OF FACT, I GOT ONE COMING IN THIS MORNING THAT, UH, HE DOESN'T KNOW THAT I'M CALLING HIM , BUT WE'LL, WE'LL GO WITH THAT LATER. GOOD. UM, AND THEN ON MY SUPPLIES, OFFICE SUPPLIES, UM, I, I CAN CUT THAT BACK. 400 JUST I, ME $450 AND THIS 400 IN MY OFFICE SUPPLIES I HAD 850. AND THAT WAS LAST YEAR BECAUSE OF THE, UH, COMPUTER THAT I HAD RECEIVED. UM, SO ON OFFICE SUPPLIES AND WE'RE TRYING TO KEEP UP WITH THIS AS WE GO ALONG. SO KAREN AND I DON'T GET IN AN ARGUMENT ABOUT WHAT WAS SAID, SAID, RIGHT. PRIMARILY KAREN. RIGHT. SO , SO, SO, UH, YOU'RE WANTING WHERE IT SAYS 2018 REQUESTED BUDGET, YOU'VE GOT EIGHT 50, YOU WANT TO LOWER THAT TO FOUR 50? UH, TO 400. 400. OKAY. AND SO GO AHEAD AND DO MM-HMM. THE LOWERING PART WE KIND OF LIKE, SO YEAH. YEAH. . OKAY. ON THE SOFTWARE MAINTENANCE, WE HAVE THE SAME AMOUNT THAT YOU HAD LAST YEAR. YEAH. THAT'S GONNA GO UP, UM, 3%, WHICH, UM, I TALKED TO KW AND THEN HE'LL ADD, WE'LL FIGURE OUT THE NUMBERS. YEAH, YOU'LL FIGURE OUT. HE SAID, OKAY. OKAY. COMMISSIONERS, THIS IS A SEPARATE FUND. I WANT YOU TO UNDERSTAND SELF-SUSTAINING, BUT ITS COUNTY HAS BUDGETED IN ENTIRE YEARS 200,000 TRANSFER FROM THE GENERAL TO HAVE HER KEEP OPERATING. OKAY. THAT'S WHERE HER REVENUE COMES FROM. YEAH. FROM, AND THEN SHE HAS A LITTLE BIT OF REVENUE FROM THE OTHER SOURCES, BUT LIKE, UM, IF YOU LOOK AT THE ELIGIBLE EXPENSES, THIS IS WHERE SHE PAYS FOR DOCTOR VISITS, HOSPITALS AND THE PHARMACY STUFF. UM, SHE USUALLY HAS SOME CARRY OWE AND WE'LL PUT THAT IN AN ESTIMATED FUND BALANCE THAT IF SHE HAS TO COME BACK TO Y'ALL AND ASK FOR [00:10:01] A BUDGET AMENDMENT OR WHY OUT AND TRANSFER, SHE'S GOT A LITTLE BIT OF MONEY THERE SO WE DON'T HAVE TO INCREASE THE GENERAL FUNDS TRANSFER TO COVER. DOES THAT HELP EXPLAIN THAT PART OR AM I MISSING IT SOMEWHERE? OKAY. AND THEN THE NEXT ONE, ALL MY TRAINING, EDUCATION AND CONFERENCES, I NEED AN INCREASE OF A HUNDRED DOLLARS, UM, BECAUSE OF MY REGISTRATION FEES HAVE GONE UP AT BOTH OF MY CONFERENCES THAT I ATTENDED. SO THAT WOULD GO TO FIVE MONEY, UH, IT WOULD GO, YES. SO THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S GOOD. MM-HMM . AND THEN TELL US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE BIG MONEY X IS THE ELIGIBLE EXPENSES. MM-HMM . SO IF YOU NOTICE, I ALWAYS KEEP THAT BELOW WHERE, UM, WHAT I'M HAVING THERE ON THE ELIGIBILITY EXPENSES. UM, AND THAT'S PART OF WHERE THE LEXI NEXUS AND EVERYTHING COMES THROUGH BECAUSE WHOEVER WE PUT ON THE PROGRAM, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THEY ACTUALLY QUALIFY FOR THE PROGRAM. SO THE HOSPITALS AND I DEAL WITH EACH OTHER. THEY SEND ME A LOT OF PEOPLE, BUT THE ONLY THING THAT THEY DON'T LOOK AT IS, UM, WHAT WE, UM, THE PROGRAM EXPECTS IT TO BE LIKE THE 21%, UM, FEDERAL PROBABLY LEVEL IS WHAT WE'RE AT IN OUR PROGRAM. AND A LOT OF TIMES WHEN THE HOSPITAL SENDS 'EM OVER, THEY MAY BE WORKING OR WHATEVER AND PUTS THEM OVER. SO, UM, WE JUST, THE BACKGROUND CHECKS ARE VERY, VERY CRUCIAL TO MY DEPARTMENT AND THEY'RE VERY GOOD AND ONLY THE PEOPLE THAT DESERVE IT GETS IT. ON OUR PROGRAM, WE, UH, BUDGETED THE 359 5 AND AS OF, UM, YESTERDAY WE HAD SPENT A HUNDRED THIRTY ONE NINE. OKAY. AND THAT WAS WITH THE 200,000 THAT WE TRANSFERRED INTO THAT FUND. MM-HMM. SO WHAT DO WE, BEFORE, LET ME EXPLAIN SOMETHING. I WANNA GIVE Y'ALL CREDIT FOR WHAT YOU'VE DONE BEFORE. THIS IS A HISTORIC MOMENT. SO YEAH, BELIEVE ME, I HAD THE GREG SHOW FOR IT ANYWAY. UH, THE TRANSFERS WERE ALWAYS LARGER BECAUSE SHE DIDN'T HAVE THE ACCESS TO THE SOFTWARE WHERE SHE COULD DISQUALIFY PEOPLE. SO THE COUNTY WAS SPENDING THREE, 400,000 TRANSFER HER A YEAR BECAUSE OF ALL THAT. AND WE'VE CUT THAT BACK LIKE 50,000 IN THE LAST TWO YEARS BECAUSE OF HER NOT SPENDING WHAT WE GAVE HER, WE HAD ENOUGH TO BALANCE THE BUDGET AND HELP THE GENERAL FUND A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE SHE STILL HAD ENOUGH AND HAD ACCESS WHERE THOSE PEOPLE ARE EITHER REALLY ELIGIBLE OR THEY'RE TRYING TO RIP SOMEBODY OFF. SO SHE HAS SAVED THE COUNTY A LOT OF MONEY 'CAUSE OF THAT. AND THEN YOU TELL EVERYBODY HOW YOU WORK WITH THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE. I MEAN THE FOLKS THAT ARE OUT THERE. YES. UM, THE WAY IT WORKS WITH THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE IS, UM, WHEN THEY TAKE HIM TO THE HOSPITAL, OUR, UM, THE HOSPITAL WILL SEND ME THE, UM, CLAIM. UM, WHAT I DO IS I, I, I STAMP THE CLAIM SO WE'LL KNOW WHAT PARTICULAR DATE IT CAME INTO ME. WE'LL SEND IT OUT TO THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT. THEY'LL MAKE SURE THAT THIS PERSON IS ACTUALLY WAS IN CUSTODY AT THAT TIME. IF NOT, THEN THEY'LL SEND IT BACK TO ME AND LET ME KNOW THAT THIS PERSON WAS NOT IN CUSTODY AT THIS TIME, THEREFORE WE DON'T HAVE TO PAY ON THIS PERSON. AND I'LL PUT A LITTLE NOTE IN THERE. SOMETIMES THEY GET US MIXED UP WITH THE FEDERAL, UM, INSTITUTE. SO I'LL PUT A NOTE IN THERE AND SAY, THIS IS A FEDERAL INMATE AND SEND IT BACK. AND THEN I PROCESSED THE CLAIM. AND THEN THE CLAIM, WE, THE GOOD THING ABOUT IT IS OUR INMATES ARE CONSIDERED LONG TIME AGO, I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY YEARS AGO THAT THEY, UM, APPROVED IT THROUGH COMMISSIONER'S COURT THAT ALL INMATES THAT COME IN ARE ACTUALLY INDIGENT. SO WE GET TO USE, GET TO PAY THE INMATE RATE AT MEDICAID RATES. OKAY. WHICH IS REAL GOOD. UM, 'CAUSE THEIR, THEIR BILLS ARE PRETTY HIGH. SO, UM, UM, BUT WE WORK, I PAY THE CLAIMS AND SENT IT BACK IN THE HOSPITAL. THEY'RE GOOD WITH THAT. THEY, YOU KNOW, THEY WORK WITH US ON EVERYTHING. UM, UH, THE ONE THING I WAS GOING TO TELL YOU GENTLEMEN, IS I'M NOT SURE IF Y'ALL ARE VERY AWARE OF MY PROGRAM AND HOW IT ACTUALLY WORKS, BUT THE STATE SAYS THAT WE HAVE TO SIT, SIT OUT 8% OF OUR, UM, GENERAL FUND FOR THIS PROGRAM. OKAY. SO IN ALL HONESTY, I CAN USE UP TO 8% IN THIS PROGRAM. OKAY. IF I WANT TO. UM, IT'S KIND OF LIKE A MANDATED THING. IT'S, IT'S APPARENT, IT'S A HUGE UNFUNDED WHAT IT IS. YES. UH, BUT WITH WHAT I DO, I KEEP THAT NUMBER WAY DOWN AND I, I MAKE SURE THAT EVERY PERSON THAT WALKS THROUGH IS ELIGIBLE FOR THAT PROGRAM. OKAY. I HAVE PEOPLE THAT COME TO THE TAX OFFICE AND THEY'LL STOP AT MY OFFICE AND THEY'LL ASK ME, HEY, I DIDN'T KNOW YOU WERE HERE. CAN YOU TELL US ABOUT? AND I TELL [00:15:01] EVERYBODY ABOUT THE PROGRAM, HOW IT WORKS AND EVERYTHING. AND UM, THEY'LL EITHER APPLY OR THEY WILL APPLY. SO, BUT I'M NOT A BABYSITTER. I'M NOT GONNA SIT THERE AND, YOU KNOW, TELL YOU, OR OR I WILL HELP YOU IF YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW TO FILL OUT THE APPLICATIONS. BUT I'M NOT GONNA KEEP CALLING YOU AND SAY, HEY, BRING THAT APPLICATION BACK. BRING THAT APPLICATION BACK. BECAUSE I'M, I, THAT'S JUST NOT, YOU REALLY DON'T WANT TO DO THAT. SO, UH, BUT ANYWAY. OKAY. DO YOU HAVE ANY, UH, YOU SPENT, HOW MUCH DID YOU SAVE TODAY? A HUNDRED. A HUNDRED THIRTY ONE NINE HUNDRED FORTY TWO. OKAY. SO DO YOU HAVE ANY BIG CLAIMS OUTSTANDING AT THIS POINT IN, NOT AT THIS MOMENT. OKAY. I DO NOT. SO THE QUESTION IS, DO WE WANT TO CONTINUE TO, DO WE WANT TO PUT ANOTHER 200,000 IN THERE THIS YEAR OR MAYBE CUT IT BACK TO 150 OR SOMETHING? OKAY. UM, WITH THE LEGISLATION CHANGING ALL THE TIME RIGHT. AND EVERYTHING, I DUNNO WHAT THEY DID. THE OBAMACARE IS FIXING TO, I GUESS, POSSIBLY DISAPPEAR OR THEY'RE TRYING TO DO AWAY WITH THAT. WHO KNOWS? YEAH. I DON'T KNOW WHAT MY PROGRAM'S GONNA NEED. YOU DON'T KNOW FROM A DAY TO DAY THING, YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN. I KNOW ALL THE TIME. PARKLAND HOSPITAL IS ALL THE TIME TRYING TO GET OUR 8%. I MEAN, THEY'RE, UH, TRYING TO FIND WAYS THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO PAY YOU. I WILL TELL YOU NOW, IT IS HARD FOR A KAUFMAN COUNTY RESIDENT TO GO TO DALLAS COUNTY IF THEY DO NOT HAVE INSURANCE. AND THAT IS WHERE OUR SPECIALISTS ARE. WE HAVE NO SPECIALISTS IN THIS COUNTY. AND THAT IS ONE OF MY COMPLAINTS WHEN I GO TO THE HOSPITAL THAT THERE IS NO SPECIALISTS IN THIS COUNTY. SO THEREFORE MY RESIDENTS HAVE TO GO TO HOFFMAN, UH, TO DALLAS COUNTY. BUT THEY WILL NOT ASSIST THEM IF THEY DO NOT HAVE INSURANCE. OKAY. SO, UM, I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN WITH THAT. SO MAYBE NOT. MAYBE WE JUST NEED TO CONTINUE. I MEAN, I'M NOT, YOU DON'T SPEND IT UNLESS YOU HAVE TO. I DON'T SPEND IT UNLESS I HAVE TO SPEND IT. BUT I DON'T KNOW FROM YEAR TO YEAR WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN. WELL, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT ALL THEY DID TO US DURING THIS SESSION. YES. I KNOW THERE WAS SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT SOME OF THE, UH, INMATES AND, YOU KNOW, AND SO THE, THE OTHER DISCUSSION THAT MAY AFFECT THIS IS, IS THAT THERE IS YOUR JUDGE CHITTY TALK ABOUT THAT HOUSTON LAWSUITS, YOU KNOW, OUR JAIL POPULATION MAY GO DOWN SIMPLY BECAUSE OF NOT HOLDING, UH, SOME OF THOSE THAT WE HAVE. THE SHERIFF TOLD ME YESTERDAY THAT UH, THEY'RE NOT, UH, ACCEPTING CLASS C MISDEMEANORS NOW IN THE JAIL BECAUSE THEY ONLY HAD 15 MALE BEDS AVAILABLE. AND SO THEY'RE NOT ACCEPTING, YOU KNOW, GET POPULATION DOWN, PUT THAT OUT TO UH, I THINK FOR 45 DAYS NEED NOTIFIED. THEY'VE BEEN DOING THAT IN DALLAS YEARS. MISDEMEANOR, WHAT SHE SAID WAS THE REQUIREMENT OR WHATEVER THEY'RE TRYING TO TALK ABOUT WAS LIKE 8% OF THE GENERAL FUND BUDGET YOU'RE LOOKING AT OVER 2.8 MILLION. YEAH. YEAH. THAT WOULD BE TRANSFERRED TO HER, HER FUND. SO 200,000 IS DROP IN THE BUCKET. YEAH. OKAY. SO WHAT ELSE? OH, THAT'S IT. THAT'S ALL I HAD. OKAY. EASY, EASY SOFTWARE MAINTENANCE. YOU GOT THAT? YEAH, I SPOKE TO ME AND KW AND HE SAID HE'LL WORK. I THINK IT'S GONNA BE AROUND 55, BUT HE SAID OKAY. ANYBODY HAVE ANY, ANY QUESTIONS? I THINK YOU DO A GREAT JOB THOUGH. YEAH. YOU LITTLE HISTORY. UH, WE STARTED, I REMEMBER BACK IN 2011, WE HAD TWO THAT WAS A TWO PERSON OFFICE. YOU WORKED OUT OF THE TAROT OFFICE? YES. AND THEN WE HAD ONE HERE. MM-HMM . AND, UH, THE LADY THAT WAS HERE, I DON'T REMEMBER THE NAME, AND I RETIRED AND DESIREE STEPPED FORWARD. SHE SAID, I CAN, I CAN DO THIS FOR MYSELF. I DON'T NEED SECOND PERSON. AND SO SHE DID AND HAS DONE A FABULOUS JOB FOR US. AND REALLY, I TAKE, SHE TAKES A LOT PRIDE IN WHAT YOU DO. SO I WANT YOU TO KNOW WE APPRECIATE THAT. DID WELL SHE'S WENT AND HELPED OTHER COUNTIES THAT GOT NEW YES. UH, COORDINATORS AND TRAINED THEM AND HOW TO USE THE STUFF AND WHAT SOFTWARE THEY NEED TO HELP THEM KEEP THE PROCESS. SOME OF THE OTHER COUNTIES THAT, YOU KNOW, I TALKED TO THE JUDGES, THEY ARE SPENDING ALL OVER, I MEAN, OUR SIZE COUNTY SPEND OVER A MILLION DOLLARS IN HEALTHCARE. WELL, LET ME TELL YOU WHAT, THEY, THEY CONTRACT WITH THEIR CLINICS, UM, IS WHY THEY SPEND SO MUCH. BUT WHEN YOU CONTRACT WITH THE CLINICS, MORE THAN LIKELY HALF THE PEOPLE ARE NOT IN YOUR GUIDELINE LIMITS. SO THAT'S WHY THEY'RE SPENDING THE SAME ANYMORE. BUT THE REASON WHY THEY DO THAT IS TO TAKE A LOT OF HEADACHE. SO IT'S NOT A HEADACHE TO ME. YOU EITHER QUALIFY OR YOU DON'T. AND WE'RE GONNA KEEP IT WITHIN THE GUIDELINES. SO. [00:20:01] YEAH. AND WHAT'S THE MAGIC NUMBER? WHY 8%? I MEAN, JUST, IT'S JUST SOMETHING THE STATE OF COINS ISN'T EIGHT PRETTY GOOD WHEN IT LANDED. THAT'S WHAT THEY SAID. I KNOW WHEN I WAS IN PO COUNTY, WE WORKED UP OWNING THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT AND IT, IT COST US QUITE, QUITE A FEW BUCKS TO GET THAT PLACE GOING. HUNT COUNTY HAS THEIR HO I THINK THEY HAVE A HOSPITAL DISTRICT TOO. AND UH, I GUESS THEY TAKE CARE OF JUST LIKE DALLAS COUNTY. YEAH. UH, THE ONLY THING IS, IS UM, THEY DO HAVE A HOSPITAL DISTRICT, BUT THEY DON'T, UM, AS FAR AS THEY'RE INDIGENT, THEY RUN INTO ISSUES WITH INDIGENT PEOPLE BECAUSE, UM, THEY'RE, UM, WHEN THEY GO INTO THE HOSPITAL, THEY MAY NOT BE ABLE TO SERVE THEM WHAT THEY NEED TO BE, WHAT THEY NEED FOR SERVICE BECAUSE IT IS A HOSPITAL DISTRICT. IT'S NOT LIKE A CLINIC OR DOCTOR, SOMEBODY THAT NEEDS MAINTENANCE CARE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT TO WHERE WE WOULD BE ABLE TO TAKE CARE OF DIABETIC AND THEIR MAINTENANCE AND STUFF LIKE THAT. THEY CAN'T DO THAT THROUGH THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT. THEY CAN ONLY TAKE CARE OF THEM THROUGH THE HOSPITAL. SO. OKAY. GOOD DEAL. THANKS. MM-HMM . ALRIGHT. NEXT IS THE PURCHASING DEPARTMENT. YOU WANT ME IN A HOT SEAT OR AM I GOOD HERE? YOU'RE GOOD. RIGHT. AT LEAST SHE WON'T BE IN THE OFFICE. SHE NEEDS, SHE'S ALWAYS CAR AS YOU CAN SEE. I HAVE, I HAVE NO CHANGES. AND I'M SURE YOU HAVE SOME QUESTIONS, ESPECIALLY ON MY, UM, PART-TIME HEALTH, WHICH I'VE NOT USED ANY SO FAR THIS YEAR. UM, THAT'S SPECIFIC. WE WE'RE ABOUT TO USE IT. UH, ONE OF MY GIRLS, SIR, IS EXPECTING IN NOVEMBER, SO SHE WILL BE GOING OUT AND I'M GONNA NEED THAT PART-TIME HELP FOR AN UNDETERMINED AMOUNT OF TIME AS OF RIGHT NOW. WHERE DO PART-TIME HELP? I'M SORRY. NO, I WAS JUST, SHE HAS A NEW GRANDSON. I SAID GRANDDAUGHTER EVERY DAY, BUT TWO DAYS. EVERYBODY'S DOING GOOD. NOTHING TO DO WITH THE BUDGET. . I'VE ALREADY ASKED HER PICTURE. SHE SHOW YESTERDAY, SHE SENT ME A PICTURE. THEY'RE ALL IN MY, MY OFFICE NOW LOOKS LIKE A SHRINE. SO THERE'S . BUT OTHER THAN THAT, I MEAN, I JUST DON'T HAVE ANYTHING. I MEAN THAT EMPLOYEE APPRECIATION THAT'S IN THIS, IN UNDER THE PURCHASING AGENT. BUT I GET THAT'S ACTUALLY PUT IN THERE FROM THE FIVE BOARD. REFUNDS. REBATES AND IT'S USED FOR. BUT JACK WAS WITH HR AND THEY WERE WORKING TOGETHER DOING DIFFERENT TYPES OF, UH, UH, EMPLOYEE APPRECIATION AND UH, I GUESS THE NEW, THERE'S A BUNCH OF PINS AND STUFF SHE WAS WORKING ON. YEAH. WE HAVE THAT, UM, ACTIVITY WORKING ON THE, UH, LIST TO PRESENT THOSE INTO WE NEED TO PUT A, A PARTY TOGETHER, I GUESS YOU COULD SAY. THAT'S WHAT, YEAH. YEAH. WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THAT FOR SOME TIME. IT IS SOMETHING WE NEED TO DO. IT'S JUST A MATTER OF GETTING A SCHEDULED, FINDING A PLACE WHERE WE CAN DO IT AND A CONVENIENT TIME. YOU KNOW, IF WE DO IT AFTER WORK, IF WE DO IT DURING THE DAY, I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S JUST, AND AND THERE'S SO MANY PEOPLE, IT'S JUST COORDINATING. EXACTLY. PEOPLE, IT'S LIKE , YOU KNOW, THEY, THEY'VE GOT POWER AND THEIR CLOTHES AND SO IT'S KIND OF HARD TO DO. BUT WE DO NEED TO, UH, WE NEED TO RECOGNIZE OUR EMPLOYEES FOR YEARS FOR SERVICE SOMETHING SO. WELL, AND ALSO MY MILEAGE MEALS AND LODGING, AS YOU SEE, THAT WASN'T HARDLY USED AT ALL. AND PART OF THAT IS, AS YOU MENTIONED, THE GRANDBABY. ONE OF OUR BIG CONFERENCES IS IN JUNE AND ANOTHER ONE'S IN NOVEMBER. WELL, IN JUNE THIS YEAR. I DIDN'T, I WASN'T ABOUT TO SCHEDULE THAT 'CAUSE DIDN'T KNOW. RIGHT. BUT I'M PRETTY EASY TO ALONG WITH. AS LONG AS YOU'RE DOING AS YOU'RE TOLD. . SEE THERE'S THE, I LIKE IT. ISN'T IT GOOD? WRONG? OH, I'M NOT THAT MEAN. ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? I'M GOOD. EASY? NO, I'M GOOD. OKAY, TEAM. I'M JUDGE JONES TRYING TO GET TOUCH WITH HIM. OKAY. UH, BRENDA, WE, YOUR FRIEND IS HERE. YEAH. ANGIE. SEE YOU CAN GET IN TOUCH WITH JUDGE JONES. BRENDA, ARE YOU, UH, YOU WANNA GO AHEAD. JUDGE JONES IS NOT HERE. YES SIR. WE'LL, JUST, I THINK YOU'VE GOT A COPY. WE, SHE WAS SUPPOSED TO BE TOMORROW. TOMORROW. [00:25:01] OKAY. NO, HE WAS SUPPOSED TO BE MONDAY THREE. MONDAY A THERE WE ARE WEDNESDAY. AND SHE'S GOT TWO OR THREE. UH, YEAH, WE HAVE FOUR. I THINK BUDGETS WE'RE GOOD ON THE, UH, FIRST ONE. OF COURSE. IT'S LIKE EXTRA HELP SOMETIMES DURING THE ELECTION ACT ELECTION. MORE COLLECTED TAXES. WE DO NEED SOME EXTRA HELP. AND UH, WE'LL MOVE THAT. THE SAME THAT AGREED UPON, UH, SOCIAL SECURITY AND OFFICE SUPPLIES, MILEAGE AND MEALS AND TRAINING. UM, THAT WAS, WE'RE LEAVING THAT AT 600 FOR, UH, OFFICE FURNITURE AND EQUIPMENT RIGHT NOW TRAINING. I THINK WE KEPT IT THE SAME AT 1700. THE MILEAGE AND MILLS. THOUSAND SOCIAL SECURITY. 4 87 AND THEN THE 7,000 FOR THE EXTRA HELP IF WE NEED IT. I KNOW THERE'S A PROGRAM THAT MAYBE WE COULD GET SOME WORK THERE. NOT FOR SURE. I'M NOT THERE. I MEAN, THEY'RE, THEY'RE RESPONDING BUT THEY'RE NOT TELLING YOU THEY HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE. OKAY. IF IT'S OKAY WITH YOU ALL, WE'LL KEEP THAT IN THE SAME AMOUNT. AND OF COURSE, IF ANYTHING WE DON'T COMPLETELY WON'T USE. ALRIGHT. TELL US WHERE THE MONEY COMES FOR THIS. HOW THE AGENDA FUND. OH, DO YOU NEED YOU, DOES SHE NEED OH, SHE HAS. NO, I GET IT. THIS IS, THIS COMES FROM THE, UM, DIFFERENT, IS THIS THE ONE THAT WE GET? FUND 30. OH, THAT'S BASICALLY LOOKING FUND 30. IS THIS THE ONE WHERE WE GET, WHEN WE CHARGE THE ENTITIES, IT'S NOT REGISTRATION. IT'S BASICALLY LIKE A, ANYTIME I WAS, THEY GIVE IT TO THE STATE AND THEY GET REIMBURSED. I WAS LOOKING SIX PARTIES. FIVE. OH, OKAY. THIS IS THE CHAPTER 19, BASICALLY FUND 30. OKAY. YEAH, BUT IT'S IN FUND 30. OKAY. IF YOU LOOK AT THE BEGINNING NUMBERS. OKAY. OKAY. THAT'S THE ELECTIONS DEPARTMENT. WHAT WE ADMINISTRATION? YES SIR. AND SO WHERE DID THEY GET THEIR MONEY FROM? THIS FUND? FUND 30 IS BASED, IT IS CHAPTER 19 FIVE. IT'S FROM THE STATE. IT BASED LIKE A GRANT. THEY SPEND MONEY, THEY EXPENSES, THEY GET REIMBURSED. IT'S A WASH. OH, THE MOST PART. YEAH. LIKE THIS, THIS YEAR WE'VE GOT $8,673 AND IT DOES EXPIRE. SO THAT, THAT IS A THING THAT WE HAVE TO KEEP AN EYE ON, IS THAT IT EXPIRES IF WE DON'T SPEND IT. SO WHAT NOW? SAY THAT AGAIN. IT EXPIRES THE FUND NINE, UH, CHAPTER 19 MONEY THAT WE GET FOR REGISTRATION FOR, FOR A WHOLE YEAR. WHAT THEY DO IS HOW MANY WE REGISTER, HOW MANY WE, UM, REGISTER TO VOTE OR MANY REGISTER VOTERS WE HAVE. THEY PAY US A CERTAIN AMOUNT ON ODD NUMBER OF YEARS, NOT SO MUCH AS ON EVEN . SO THE MONEY THAT WE GET EXPIRES EXPIRE. YES. SO WE, I TRY TO KEEP AN EYE ON THAT PRETTY CLOSE TO SEE WHEN IT'S GOING TO EXPIRE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T LET THE STATE HAVE IT BACK. MAKE SURE YOU SPEND IT BEFORE WE DO. TRY TO MAKE SURE WE SPEND IT SO THAT YEAH. LIKE WE SAID, THE STATE WILL JUST TAKE IT BACK. AND SO ALL THE, ALL THIS COMES FROM THAT REGISTRATION. YES. EVERYTHING ON THE LINE LINE. YES. HOW MUCH HAS BEEN SPENT. YEAH. WE WOULDN'T EVEN SPIN IT ON THAT ONE. SPIN IT. WE'LL FIND SOMETHING FOR YOU. I UNDERSTAND. HEY, I'VE HAD A PROBLEM SO FAR, BUT IF I HAVE ONE I'LL, WE IN THE, IN THE EXTRA BELT, NOTHING'S BEEN SPENT BECAUSE WE JUST RECENTLY GOT THAT MONEY. SO THE TOTAL AMOUNT, UH, WE SPENT NOTHING OUT OF THAT, UH, ACCOUNT. NOTHING OUTTA EXTRA HELP. NO, IT'S NOT SHOWING ANYTHING SPENT AS OF MARCH. WHAT ABOUT THE OTHER, THE MILES AND THE TRAINING AND OFFICE VERSION? NOTHING THERE EITHER. WELL, I DON'T THINK WE SPENT ANY OUTTA CHECK FOR 19 SO FAR. UH, SINCE WE GOT THE NEW MONEY, UM, YOU HAVE TO HAVE THIS FIT BY SEPTEMBER 30 [00:30:01] N NO, I THINK WE'RE GOOD UNTIL NEXT YEAR ON THE MONEY THAT LET'S CARRY IT FORWARD. YEAH. OH, OKAY. AND THEN WHATEVER WE GET, THEN WE BUDGET IN THOSE LINEUPS FOR THEM. OKAY. BUT IT HAS TO BE USED FOR VOTER REGISTRATION. VOTER, YEAH. OKAY. YEAH. ALRIGHT, GOOD. THAT'S, THAT'S HELPFUL. ANYBODY GOT ANY QUESTIONS? NO. NOPE. AND THEN THE NEXT ONE IS, UH, THE ELEVEN TEN FIVE HUNDRED TAX OFFICE. THE TAX OFFICE. UHHUH. . OKAY. UM, AND THIS IS GENERAL FUND? YES, SIR. AND YOU CAN SEE THE, THE SALARIES AND THE, THE CAR ALLOWANCES, UH, ON OFFICE SUPPLIES. WE'RE ASKING FOR 6,000 FOR 18. WE HAD THERE, IT WAS DOWN AT 5,000. UH, BACK IN ACT 16 IT WAS LIKE ALMOST 8,000. AND THEN IT IS GONE DOWN. BUT, UH, THE GIRLS KEEP A REALLY GOOD EYE ON THAT. UM, I'VE GOT A GREAT GROUP AND THEY, THEY WATCH THAT STUFF LIKE VERY, VERY, VERY CLOSELY, UH, THAT WE'RE THINKING WE NEED JUST A LITTLE BIT MORE MONEY IN THAT DEPARTMENT. UH, OF COURSE OPERATING EXPENSES. WE'VE GOT 2000, UH, POST OFFICE RENTAL. UH, WE DO DO A LOT OF TRAINING AND, UH, TRAVELING. AND SO WE'RE UH, ASKING FOR 6,000 IN THAT ONE. AND OF COURSE ANYTHING WE DON'T USE, WE, YOU KNOW, WE'LL NOT USE. BUT THERE'S WITH, AND AGAIN, THE LEGISLATION CHANGES. THERE'S GONNA BE A LOT OF CHANGES IN OUR STUFF TOO. WHAT WE CAN DO AND WHEN, WHAT WE CAN'T DO ON, UH, BONDS, WERE JUST ASKING FOR 1000. RIGHT. WE TOOK THAT DOWN A THOUSAND TO OFFSET WHERE WE, UH, RAISED THE OTHER ONE AT THE THOUSAND. AND, UM, YOU WON'T, YOU WON'T OWE THE SAME AMOUNT IN BONDS THIS NEXT YEAR. I THINK WE DIDN'T SPEND AS MUCH AS THEY DID. AND THE BONDS AREN'T DUE. I DON'T BELIEVE EVERY YEAR. ARE THEY? THEY'RE DUE. YEAH. WE ALREADY, WE'VE SPENT ALREADY MORE. YOU'VE SPENT MORE NOW I'D LEAVE IT AT 2000. PROBABLY 2000. WE'VE ALREADY SPENT LIKE 36 ON THE BOND. HUH. OKAY. SO WE PROBABLY, SO YOU IN HOME, LIKE YOU SAID, THEY MIGHT NOT BE RENEW EVERY YEAR. THEY USUALLY FOUR YEARS. EVERY FOUR YEARS. IF YOU'RE ELECTED, IF YOU'RE APPOINTED THEY DO EVERY YEAR. BUT IF YOU'RE ELECTED IT'S FOUR YEARS. SO WHY THAT? WHAT IS, WHAT I REMEMBER IS SAYING I THINK THE BOND THAT SHE PAID FOR IT FOR 40 YEARS, SO SHE MAY NOT HAVE TO HAVE AS MUCH, I'D STILL BE BOND IS 10,000 IS JANUARY, 2017 TO DECEMBER 31ST. 2020. OKAY. OKAY. SO IT IS A FOUR YEAR BOND. RIGHT. SO MAYBE THAT'S WHY IT WAS SO WHEN SHE CAME IN OFFICE. RIGHT. THAT'S WHY, THAT'S WHY MAYBE IN 2000 THEN. YES SIR. PLEASE. OKAY. THIS DOESN'T ALWAYS, I MEAN IF THERE'S JUSTIFICATION BEHIND WHY WE NEED TO GO WITH A, A LITTLE BIT MORE EXPENSIVE VENDOR, AS LONG AS YOU CAN SHOW AS TO WHY THAT THAT'S NOT AN ISSUE. 'CAUSE CHEAPER IS NOT ALWAYS BETTER. WE KNOW THAT, RIGHT? YEAH. WE DON'T, IT'S SURE GOOD IF WE CAN GET THE TAX SAVINGS OUT EARLY. AND I KNOW Y'ALL ARE VERY MUCH AWARE OF THAT. SO LITTLE HISTORY BEFORE WE OUTSOURCE THAT ARE POSTAGE IN THE 4 0 9 DEPARTMENT OF GENERAL FUND WAS EXTREMELY EXPENSIVE. PLUS THE OVERTIME AND EXTRA HELP THAT WAS REQUIRED BY THE TAX OFFICE TO PRINT THOSE, FOLD 'EM AND GET 'EM ALL STUFFED AND GET 'EM OUT. IT WAS ALL HANDS ON DECK. EVERYBODY IN THE COUNTY STUFF THAT THEY ACTUALLY, UH, SHOWED UP COST SAVINGS AFTER THAT STARTED BEING HANDLED THAT WAY I BELIEVE. SO YOU COULD PUT IN YOUR BID TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU'VE GOT A CUTOFF DATE THAT HAVE TO BE DONE. CAN YOU NOT? OKAY. WE HAD TO LOAD OF STUFF WE HAD TO DO IS FROM THE SINGLE APPRAISAL DISTRICT AND I BELIEVE THEY'RE ON TOP OF EVERYTHING. UH, THERE WAS JUST, IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THERE WAS JUST SOME DELAYS IN GETTING THINGS APPROVED LAST TIME. UH, BY, I AIN'T GONNA COMMENT ON THAT. WELL, AND AND ALSO IF I MIGHT SAY TOO, I MEAN SOME OF IT COMES FROM THE ENTITIES AS WELL. 'CAUSE THE ENTITIES ALSO, YOU KNOW, WE DO SO MANY OF THE, ALL OF THE ENTITIES THAT WE COLLECT FOR AND THEY HAVE TO SEND IN THEIR PAPERWORK AS TO, YOU KNOW, WHAT THEIR RATES ARE GONNA BE. AND SO WE DON'T SET THEIR RATES, WE JUST [00:35:01] DO THE CALCULATIONS FOR 'EM AND THEN WE SEND 'EM BACK TO THEM AND THEY HAVE A CERTAIN TIME WHERE THEY CAN APPROVE ALL THIS. AND SOME OF 'EM WAIT TILL THE VERY LAST DAY. WE HAVE NO TROUBLE. IT WAS REALLY LATE LAST YEAR THOUGH. I CAN'T REMEMBER WHO IT WAS. BUT SOME OF THEM REALLY DO THE 29TH, THE 29TH OF SEPTEMBER AND THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO GO OUT ON OCTOBER. IT WOULD BE NICE IF WE COULD GIVE THEM A DEADLINE OURSELVES AND SAY, OKAY, I KNOW THE LAW SAYS THIS, YOU KNOW, WE MIGHT CHECK INTO THAT BECAUSE I KNOW THE LAW SAYS YOU HAVE THIS DEADLINE, BUT IF YOU WANT, YOU KNOW, WE WANT OUR TAX STATEMENTS OUT. YOU KNOW, I THINK WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO TELL 'EM, WE'LL SEND IT OUT, THAT'S YOURS ON IT AND YOU'LL PAY EXTRA FOR US TO SEND YOURS OUT LATER ON IF YOU DON'T GET IT HERE BY THIS TIME AT THAT MEETING. I, I'M, THAT'S AN IDEA. I THINK THAT'S GOOD IDEA. THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT AND I KNOW, I KNOW HOW IMPORTANT IT IS TO THE PEOPLE TITLE COMPANIES, THE MORTGAGE COMPANIES, EVERYBODY DID THOSE THINGS GO OUT IN A TIMELY MANNER. OKAY. I MEAN THERE WAS A TIME IT PUT THE, THE COUNTY IN ABIN FINANCIALLY BECAUSE THE TAX STATEMENTS DIDN'T GET OUT IN TIME. YEAH. WE DON'T GET, IT'S LIKE THREE WEEKS LATE OR SOMETHING. YEAH, WE DON'T GET A LOT OF EARLY, BUT SOME PEOPLE DO. THEY DO CUT THEY THEM FIRST DAY, YOU KNOW, ESPECIALLY THAT OLDER. HE'S ALWAYS FIRST LINE. WHAT MIGHT BE A GOOD IDEA? I MIGHT BE A GOOD IDEA. MAYBE Y'ALL SEND OUT A LETTER TO THE VARIOUS TAX AND JURISDICTIONS. HOW MANY DO WE COLLECT FOR LIKE, I THINK THERE'S LIKE 30 30 THERE, 29 TO 30. AND SOME OF 'EM ARE LITTLE BITTY, YOU KNOW, AND THE LITTLE TEXTING UNITS AND THEY DON'T REALLY THINK ABOUT THE REPERCUSSIONS OF IT. SO YOU MIGHT CONSIDER THAT. MM-HMM . JUST LET 'EM KNOW THAT WE'RE NOT WAITING FOR AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED, YOU SAID TODAY, WHENEVER THEY HAVE TO HAVE IT, YOU KNOW, I MEAN I THINK THAT'S YOUR PREROGATIVE. SO I THINK IT'S TOO AND JUST UNDER, IF THEY UNDERSTAND IT, IT HOLDS EVERYBODY UP AND IT IS, HOW MUCH DO WE COLLECT? A HUNDRED MILLION? IT'S MORE THAN THAT. I WOULDN'T SAY IT'S GOTTA BE MORE THAN THAT. THAT'D BE MORE THAN THAT. YEAH, I KNOW. YEAH. WELL, 200 I DON'T WANT THAT AMOUNT IS, IT'D GOTTA BE INTERESTING TO KNOW. I THINK WE DID LIKE A SMALL BANK ALMOST. NO, WE NEED TO KEEP MORE OF IT. YEAH. GOOD. CHARGE EM 20%. I CAN SAY WE NEED TO FIND 'EM OR SOMETHING. IF THEY CAN'T, WE'VE NOT, WE CHARGE 'EM BY PARCELS. YEAH. WE, HOW MUCH DID WE CHARGE FOR PARCELS? I, I DON'T REMEMBER. I WENT IN ON ALL OF THAT THE LAST TIME WE DID THAT. YEAH. UH, AND WHO, WHO KNOWS THAT? WHO DOES THAT? NIKKI. NIKKI AND UH, OKAY. WHO, WHO SETS THAT NUMBER OF THE TAX ASSESSOR COLLECTOR? I BELIEVE SO. OKAY. ARE WE, ARE WE SUBSIDIZING ANYBODY OR YOU THINK WE'RE I KNOW WE, WE WENT UP I THINK IN THE LAST UH, YEAR WE HAVE SOME WE DID GO. WE DID. YES. BUT I'M NOT SURE WHAT WE WENT UP TO. OKAY. YOU LOOK AT THAT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE OKAY WITH IT. YEAH. AND YOU MAY CHECK WITH OTHER, I IT WAS ANY CONTRACTS, I BELIEVE THE NEW CONTRACTS THAT WERE DRAWN UP. YEAH. THIS WAS A, THIS HAS REALLY BECOME KIND OF A TOPIC OF DISCUSSION ACROSS THE STATE BECAUSE A LOT OF COUNTIES, JUST LIKE WE DO AND SOME APPRAISAL DISTRICTS WHO ACTUALLY COLLECT TAXES, UH, IT, IT GOES OUT BRENDA SAMPLES, TAX ASSESSOR, COLLECTOR COFFMAN COUNTY AND THE JOE BLOW PUBLIC COUNTY OR 50% OF 'EM. THEY THINK, WELL THAT ALL THE COUNTY'S GETTING ALL OUR MONEY AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE CAN DO TO, THERE'S, I DON'T KNOW HOW WE CAN CORRECT THAT, I DON'T THINK. BUT THAT'S WHERE SOME OF THE DEBATE HAS BEEN IN AUSTIN WHEN EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT THE BIGGEST TAX IS THE SCHOOL DISTRICT TAX. MM-HMM WHICH THEY'VE BEEN FORCED TO DO OVER THE YEARS BECAUSE OF THE STATE NOT FUNDING EDUCATION PROPERTY. I DON'T THINK WE'D DO ANYTHING ABOUT THAT. BUT THAT'S KIND OF A ONE ON ONE BASIS WHEN THEY CALL AND THEY'RE DROPPING AT US ABOUT HOW MUCH TAXES THEY PAY, WE KIND OF TRY TO BREAK IT DOWN FOR 'EM. CAN YOU PUT THE SCHOOL TAX PICK BOWL? WE PROBABLY COULD BECAUSE THAT WOULD PROBABLY BE LIKE THE FORMATTING . IT MIGHT NOT BE A BAD IDEA. , YOU TALKED ABOUT THE SCHOOLS LIKE CAN COLLECTING IT BECAUSE IT KIND OF TOOK FEED OFF OF IT. WELL, AND IT'S A CONVENIENT FOR THE TAXPAYER. I MEAN, EVERYTHING COME TO ONE PLACE, TAKE CARE OF EVERYTHING. BUT IT DOES CREATE A CONFUSION WITH THE TAXPAYER BECAUSE ALL THEY SEE IS I OWE KAUFMAN COUNTY $5,000, THAT ALLONE COUNTY, WHERE ARE THEY SPENDING MY MONEY? SO ANYWAY, NOTHING WE CAN DO ABOUT THAT RIGHT NOW. BUT SEEMS LIKE Y'ALL ARE ON TOP OF IT. WE'RE TRYING AND I GOT THE BEST STAFF, SO. OKAY. ANY, UH, ANYBODY HAVE A QUESTION BEFORE WE MOVE TO THE NEXT ONE? WE HAVE THE VOTERS. THIS IS THE, UH, WE GOT ANOTHER, WE GOT THE, WE GOT THE, HE HAS ANOTHER. OKAY, SO THIS IS, UH, THIS IS IN [00:40:01] THE GENERAL FUND. TELL US THIS IS WHAT THIS IS EXACTLY. UH, THE REGISTER, THE VOTE, OF COURSE THE SALARY, UH, AND THE EXTRA HELP. UM, WE DON'T ALWAYS USE THE EXTRA HELP, BUT WE NEVER KNOW WHEN WE, ESPECIALLY WHAT DOES THIS DEPARTMENT DO? SO WE, THE, OH, THE VOTER REGISTRATION DEPARTMENT KEEPS UP WITH ALL OF THE, UH, PEOPLE WHO ARE REGISTERING TO VOTE. YOU KNOW, WE ALSO KEEP UP WITH PEOPLE WHO WE HAVE TO CANCEL. YOU KNOW, WE KEEP UP WITH THE PEOPLE WHO PASS AWAY. WE KEEP UP WITH THE PEOPLE WHO'VE MOVED OUT OF THE COUNTY. YOU KNOW, UM, VOTER REGISTRATION. IT'S QUITE A JOB BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, ANYTIME WE GET ANYTHING SHOWING SOMEBODY, SOMETHING COMES BACK TO US SHOWING THAT THEY'VE MOVED, WE DON'T GET TO JUST CANCEL 'EM. WE HAVE TO SEND OUT A STATEMENT SAYING, OKAY, WE'VE HEARD YOU'VE MOVED. HAVE YOU MOVED? AND IF THAT COMES BACK, THEN WE GET TO PUT 'EM ON SUSPENSE AND THEN IF THEY DON'T VOTE IN THE NEXT COUPLE YEARS, WE GET TO CANCEL 'EM. WE DON'T, YOU KNOW, IT, IT'S A PROCESS THAT WE JUST HAVE TO KEEP UP WITH ON A CONSTANT BASIS. THIS IS, IS THIS AND WELL WE ALL DO IT, BUT YEAH. PHILLIP IS BASICALLY UNDER THAT, THAT BUDGET. YES. HOW ARE YOU NOTIFIED WHEN SOMEONE DIES? WE ARE NOTIFIED. WE USE THE NEWSPAPER. WE GET STUFF FROM COUNTY CLERKS, UM, ALL OVER THE STATE. WE, YOU KNOW, WE USE WHATEVER AND WE GET STUFF FROM SECRETARY OF STATE AS WELL 'CAUSE THEY GET REPORTED TO AND THEY SEND US, UH, STUFF THAT WE, WE USE. AND OF COURSE EVERYTHING WE GET, WE SCAN INTO THAT RECORD SO THAT IF SOMETHING HAPPENS WE CAN SAY, THIS IS WHERE WE GOT THIS, YOU KNOW, INFORMATION TO, TO CANCEL THIS PERSON. AND THERE'S A LOT OF POSTAGE INVOLVED IN THAT DEPARTMENT TOO BECAUSE OF THE, YOU YOU HAVE TO SEND OUT THE NOTICES. IF THEY COME BACK, YOU GOTTA SEND THEM ANOTHER LETTER. YOU HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, ARE YOU SURE YOU MOVED? YOU KNOW, IT JUST DO WE HAVE MUCH ISSUES WITH PEOPLE AND LIKE VOTER FRAUD? YOU HEAR A LOT ABOUT THEM. YOU CATCH MUCH OF THAT OR YOU KNOW, UM, , I, YOU HEAR A LOT, YOU DO GET A LOT OF PEOPLE SAYING THAT. AND OF COURSE WEVE TALKED ABOUT IT FOR YEARS WITH THE STATE ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WE KNOW IF THERE'S GONNA BE A LOT OF FRAUD, IT'S NINE TIMES OUT 10 COME INTO THE MAIL BALLOT, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE OF THE FACT THAT, AND OF COURSE OUR BALLOT BOARD LOOKS AT THE SIGNATURES PRETTY CLOSELY AND WE'VE HAD A FEW THAT THEY REJECTED 'CAUSE THE SIGNATURES DID NOT MATCH. SO, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T HAVE THE, THE MAGNITUDE OF MAIL THAT LIKE DALLAS COUNTY OR TRAVIS COUNTY OR ANYBODY HAS THAT MIGHT HAVE INCREASED. IT HAS INCREASED. YOU BET IT HAS. I MEAN ESPECIALLY DURING THE PRESIDENTIAL AND THE GOVERNOR. THE EVEN NUMBER YEARS, IT GETS TO BE A LOT MORE. I NOTICED YOU DON'T HAVE ANY POSTAGE IN HERE. YOU MENTIONED POSTAGE. THE POSTAGE, USUALLY THE COUNTY PAYS FOR THE, FOR THE POSTAGE. IT COMES OUTTA THE COUNTY BUDGET. OKAY. THE GENERAL BUDGET I SHOULD SAY HERE. SO KAREN, WHERE ARE WE ON EXPENSES TODAY? UH, ARE WE PRETTY, PRETTY? WHICH ONE ARE YOU WANTING TO LOOK AT? 'CAUSE I HAVE TO THREE SEPARATE. WELL, I YOU HAVE ONE PERSON THAT'S THE REGISTRAR. YEAH, PHILLIP IS, IS LABELED AS THE VOTER REGISTRAR. THAT GETS REAL CONFUSING BECAUSE IN THE ELECTION DEPARTMENT YOU HAVE TWO MORE VOTER REGISTRARS. RIGHT. SO IT GETS KINDA, I WAS HUNTING FOR ALL THREE OF 'EM 'CAUSE I KNEW THEY ALL DO IT. RIGHT. RIGHT. THEY'RE, THEY'RE CONSIDERED OF THE ELECTION BUDGET. JOSEPH AND ER ARE THE ELECTION BUDGET. WHICH LINE ITEM DO YOU WANT ME TO CHECK, JUDGE? WELL IT IS, UH, I KNOW THE, I I KNOW THE TRAINING PART IN THE, UH, IT SHOWS YOU HADN'T SPENT ANY THERE AND YOU MAY HAVE BY NOW, I DON'T KNOW, BUT RIGHT. AND WE DON'T WANNA CUT CERTAINLY ON ELECTIONS. WE DON'T WANNA CUT ANYBODY. WE WILL BE SPENDING SOME OUTTA THAT BUDGET BECAUSE WE HAVE A, UH, CONFERENCE COMING UP IN, IN AUGUST, WHICH IS TO SPEND ANYTHING OUT THUS FAR. AND YOU KNOW, LIKE HE'LL TELL YOU, HE'LL TELL YOU REAL QUICKLY. SAY UH, I THINK EVERYBODY OUGHT TO COME TO THAT. JUST TO, THEY UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S NOT AS EASY AS PROBLEM. YEAH. IT'S A LOT. YEAH. IF YOU COME AND LET EXPLAIN IT AND SHOW HOW THE WHOLE SYSTEM WORKS, THAT COME BACK WITH A WHOLE DIFFERENT ATTITUDE. WELL, AND I WAS LOOKING BACK AT 2016, UH, WE ONLY SPENT $150 AND SO, AND OF COURSE, YOU KNOW, UH, THAT'S TWO YEARS AGO, RIGHT? ONE YEAR AGO. YES. RIGHT. AND, AND IN THE E LET'S SEE, AT ONE TIME MOST OF US DIDN'T GO TO THESE. THERE WAS ONLY ONE OR TWO THAT WENT. NOW MORE OF US GO TO THESE, YOU KNOW, AS THE, AND THIS IS JUST THE REGISTRATION I THINK, THAN THESE TWO. RIGHT? PRIMARILY, IS IT NOT KAREN? YES. IT'S NOT THE TRAVEL, IT'S JUST THE REGISTRATION FEES. YES. UH, AND I FEEL LIKE THAT THEY NEED TO GO TO THE TRAINING. WELL, I, I WANT TO GO, I'M JUST WONDERING IF, IF YOU, IF WE NEED $2,000, UH, WHICH ONE IS THAT ONE? [00:45:01] UH, I MEAN IT'S NOT A BIG OH, THE TRAINING EDUCATION CONFERENCE. YEAH. 43 0 5 IS WHAT HE LOOKING AT WHEN THEY SPEND A HUNDRED. WE, I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, TO BE HONEST, THAT WE WOULD USE THAT MUCH ON THE, UH, ACTUAL CONFERENCES BECAUSE OF THE SIMPLE FACT THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT'S GONNA BE FOR THE REGISTRATION FEES LIKE YOU SAY. AND THOSE ARE USUALLY MAYBE A COUPLE OF HUNDRED EACH. AND THEN THAT'S JUST FOR ONE PERSON. AND HOW MANY DO YOU HAVE? ONE, THREE TO FOUR. OKAY. 600. YEAH. SO MAYBE WE CAN CUT IT BACK TO A THOUSAND, OUT THOUSAND. WE PROBABLY COULD. OKAY. I MEAN, DON'T NEED BUDGETING FURTHER. RIGHT. WELL, ALRIGHT, JUST FOR EXAMPLE, THEY SENT THEM, UH, THEY SENT, THEY SENT FIVE PEOPLE FOR SOME ELECTION TRAINING AND THEY ONLY CHARGED THEIR PER DIEM AND MILEAGE. SO I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW. I KNOW WE SPENT MORE THAN WHAT, WHAT IT'S SAYING RIGHT THERE IS SIMPLY 'CAUSE WE JUST DIDN'T WELL, BECAUSE OF REDEMPTIVE LINES AND WHAT THEY CHARGED. YEAH. AND THE ELECTION OF THE THE ACTUAL CONFERENCES. YEAH. THEY PAID FOR IT OUT OF THE OTHER PROBABLY. SO THE STATEMENT, THEY PROBABLY PAID THE ELECTION, THE, THE CONFERENCE COURT OUT OF ELECTION AND THE MILEAGE AND TRAVEL OUT. THIS ONE, THEY PROBABLY SPLIT IT UP. WELL AND SOMETIMES WE GET REIMBURSED BY CHAPTER 19. THAT'S WHAT I WAS JUST FIXING TO SAY. 'CAUSE SOMETIMES THOSE, I KNOW LIKE SOME OF THE JPS, THEY HAVE CERTAIN ONES BECAUSE OF THEIR SOFTWARE THEY USE AND STUFF THAT THEY GET THE FREE ATTENDANCE, BUT THEY GOTTA PAY FOR THE HOTEL AND THEIR MILEAGE AND STUFF LIKE THAT. WELL LET'S CUT IT BACK TO A THOUSAND. OKAY. EVERYBODY, WE CAN GO AHEAD AND NAIL THAT DOWN. THE TRAINING EDUCATION. YEAH. OKAY. YEAH, THAT AGAIN, 43 0 5 ONLY. OKAY. THEN THE LAST ONE IS THE VOTER REGISTRAR SHOULD BE THE ELECTION. YEAH, THIS IS THE ACTUAL ELECTIONS. YES. SO WE, UH, THE SALARIES AND UH, OF COURSE WE DIDN'T MESS WITH THAT. UH, JUDGES THE SALARIES FOR THE JUDGES AND CLERKS. WE LEFT IT WHERE IT WAS. NOW WE DID HAVE TO DO SOME, UM, LINE ITEM TRANSFERS THIS YEAR. BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, THE, THE PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION WAS A LOT MORE EXPENSIVE THAN WE WE HAD BUDGETED FOR. SO THAT WAS A LOT OF IT, YOU KNOW, THAT CAME OUT OF THAT. OF COURSE WE DO LOOK, WANT TO KEEP IT WHERE IT'S AT BECAUSE WE HAVE A GOVERNOR'S ELECTION COMING UP NEXT YEAR. NEXT YEAR. SO WE'LL HAVE THE PRIMARY AND NINE TIMES OUR 10, WE'RE GONNA HAVE A RUNOFF. WE'LL HAVE THE SCHOOLS IN CITY ELECTIONS. WE DO GET REIMBURSED, YOU KNOW, BY THE STATE AND BY THE PARTIES FOR THESE ELECTIONS. BUT IT DOESN'T GO BACK INTO THIS BUDGET. IT GOES BACK INTO THE GENERAL BUDGET. SO, YOU KNOW, BUT WE DO GET A LOT OF OUR MONEY BACK ON THESE BUDGETS. GENERAL, THE GENERAL FUND IS ONE THAT FUNDS THIS. RIGHT. IT FUNDS IT. SO OF COURSE WHEN WE GET REIMBURSED, IT GOES BACK INTO THE GENERAL BUDGET. YEAH. WE HAVE A LINE ITEM. WE WE TAKE IT OUT AND PUT IT IN HERE. AND THEN WHEN YOU GET PAID BACK, IT COMES BACK TO THE GENERAL RIGHT. IT GOES BACK TO THE GENERAL FUND. RIGHT. BECAUSE EVEN IF IT DID GO BACK THERE AT THE END OF YEAR IT DID. RIGHT. IT'S GONNA GO BACK ANYWAY. RIGHT. IF WE GET TO GO TO THE VOTING CENTERS, HOW IS IT GOING TO AFFECT THIS? OR ARE WE GOING TO GET TO THE VOTE CENTER? WE CAN. WE JUST HAVE TO GET APPROVED FOR THE VOTE CENTER. HAVE WE APPLIED? WE HAVE NOT APPLIED YET. I'VE GOT ALL OF THE PAPERWORK OVER TO UH, REBECCA AND SHE'S LOOKING AT IT AND SHE'S JUST WAITING FOR US TO SAY WE'RE READY TO START MOVING FORWARD. 'CAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF STEPS WE HAVE TO DO FIRST. IT'S NOT, WE NEED TO MAKE THAT DECISION. WE DO, UH, YOU GUYS AND IN OUR DEPARTMENT DECISION, PUT IT ON THE AGENDA. YES. I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW WHY WE WOULD NOT, I, I DON'T KNOW WHY WE'RE NOT DESTIN BECAUSE SAVE A LOT OF MONEY BUILDING. WE OWN THE BUILDINGS FOR THAT. AND SO THAT WOULD JUST CONTROL THAT AND WE END, WE WOULD END ALL THESE PLACES OF SEARCHING AND YEAH. OH, ABSOLUTELY. THERE A NUMBER OF VOTING DOWN TOO. ANYWHERE EVERYBODY WHERE GO, THEY COULD DO ANY BOX NUMBER, BUT THEY COULD GO ANYWHERE IN THE HANDBOOK ANYWHERE. LET'S GO FORWARD ON THAT AS SOON AS WE TIME SIX VOTING CENTERS. NO, WE WOULD HAVE MORE THAN THAT. WE, UH, WE WOULD HAVE PROBABLY ABOUT, UH, 15 OR A LITTLE BIT, MAYBE 16, 15 OR 16. PROBABLY ABOUT 15 OR 16. YOU WOULD HAVE TO STILL 30. YOU CAN'T, YES, 30 YOU HAVE TO, IT'LL BE A LITTLE OVER, UH, HALF OF WHAT WE HAVE NOW. OKAY. YEAH. SO IT'S MAY STILL BE BETTER. SO IT WOULD BE BETTER BECAUSE THEN AFTER YOU'VE DONE IT, I THINK A YEAR YOU GET TO GO DOWN A LITTLE BIT LOWER, BUT YOU HAVE TO, IT IS KIND OF A GRADUAL ALWAYS STEP. YEAH. OKAY. BUT LIKE I SAID, THERE'S SOME, YOU KNOW, THERE'S SOME STEPS WE HAVE TO TAKE AND REBECCA'S, UH, SHE'S GOT ALL THE PAPERWORK. MATTER OF FACT, WE EVEN GOT A FLASH DRIVE SHOWING THE STEPS WE HAVE TO TAKE. SO WE HAVE SET UP TOWN HALL MEETINGS, MEETINGS TO LET THE PUBLIC [00:50:01] KNOW WHAT IT'S LIKE, WHAT WE DO. SO THAT'S, YOU KNOW, WE JUST NEED TO KNOW WHAT TO MOVE FORWARD AND WE CAN START GETTING THIS STUFF TOGETHER. SO YOU NEED THAT, YOU NEED ACTION BY THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT TO DO THAT. YES. WE NEED TO KNOW THAT WE CAN MOVE FORWARD. EVERYTHING HAS TO BE REPORTED BECAUSE THE STATE HAS TO KNOW THAT THE PARTIES ARE BEHIND US, THE COMMISSIONERS ARE BEHIND US AND YOU KNOW, THEY WON'T APPROVE IT UNTIL THEY KNOW THAT WE'VE TAKEN EVERY STEP TO LET THE PUBLIC KNOW AND THAT OUR COUNTY AND OUR PARTY CHAIRS ARE BEHIND US AND READY FOR THIS. AS ASSUME AS THEY WILL BE. I MEAN, IF YOU HAD ANY FEEDBACK, UH, I THINK THE PARTIES PARTICULARLY, YOU KNOW, I'VE GOTTEN SOME POSITIVE, SOME NEGATIVE, UH, BUT I THINK THEY'LL BE BEHIND US. I REALLY DO. I FEEL LIKE THEY'LL COME BEHIND US BECAUSE YEAH, WE'VE DONE A COUPLE OF ALL ELECTRONIC ELECTIONS AND THEY LIKE THE FACT THAT IT DID GO REALLY SMOOTH, WHICH WAS ANOTHER SUBJECT WE'LL TALK ABOUT IN A SECOND. BUT IF Y'ALL GET, WE GET WITH REBECCA AND MAKE SURE WE GET THE AGENDA LANGUAGE DOWN EXACTLY WHAT IT NEEDS TO BE. I THINK THE COURT SEEMS TO BE, UH, WANTING TO DO THAT. YOU JUST ASKED ME ABOUT THIS YESTERDAY, SO I'M GLAD Y'ALL BROUGHT THAT UP. OKAY. UH, AND THEN LET'S TALK ABOUT THE VOTING EQUIPMENT. UH, WE'VE HAD DEMONSTRATION HERE THE, UH, WHAT, A COUPLE WEEKS AGO WHEN WE WERE MEETING. AND SO, UH, WE UH, UH, I KNOW THAT THERE WAS A MEETING IN AUSTIN THAT SOME OF OUR PEOPLE ATTENDED. UH, THERE ARE TWO OR THREE DIFFERENT VOTING SYSTEMS OUT THERE. WE SAW THE DEMO ON ONE OF THEM. AND, UH, YOU KNOW, IT'S THAT TOUCH SCREEN THING THAT EVERYBODY I THINK SAW AT THE MEETING WE ATTENDED, UH, WHICH IS, I MEAN OUR EQUIPMENT NOW IS CURRENTLY 12 YEARS OLD. SO, UH, IT'S, YOU KNOW, JUST THINK HOW MUCH TECHNOLOGY HAS CHANGED IN THE LAST 12 YEARS. THE URBAN COUNTIES ARE, AND I NEED TO CALL THEM TO KIND OF FIND OUT WHERE THEY'RE, THEY'RE THINKING ABOUT PUTTING TOGETHER GROUP BID, WHICH WE SHOULD BRING THE PRICE DOWN FOR EVERYBODY. I DO KNOW THAT I TALKED WITH JUDGE SWEET IN, UH, ROCKWALL COUNTY, AND IF WE DON'T DO THE URBAN COUNTY, HE'S INTERESTED IN DOING AN INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT WITH KAUFMAN COUNTY SO THAT WE WOULD, UH, YOU KNOW, GO OUT TOGETHER. THEY YEAH. GET, GET A BETTER PRICE. BRENDA TOLD ME SOMETHING LAST NIGHT WHEN WE WERE, UH, TALKING AND I, I TEXT HER AND SHE DIDN'T WANNA TAKE BACK. SO SHE CALLED ME. UH, WE WERE CURRENTLY WITH HEART GRAPHICS, I BELIEVE, AND SOMETHING THAT SHE SAID THAT BOTHERED ME THAT, UH, WE'VE HAD SOME SCANNERS. AND THE SCANNER IS WHERE YOU SCAN THE PAPER BALLOT. IS THAT, NO. OKAY. WHAT IS IT? IT'S WHEN YOU CHECK A PERSON IN AT THE, UH, LIKE WHEN THEY COME IN TO REST YOUR VOTE, THEY SHOW THE DRIVER'S LICENSE AND THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO, WHATEVER THAT IS NOW, UM, THEY SHOW THE DRIVER'S LICENSE AND THEY SCAN IT. THEY GET A, A, A LABEL. OKAY. ONE LABEL HAS A BAR BARCODE ON IT AND IT TELLS WHAT BALLOT STYLE THAT IS BY THE PROGRAMMING THAT WE DO. RIGHT. OKAY. THE, THE SCANNER IS HOOKED TO THE MACHINE THAT TELLS YOU WHAT CODE YOU PUT INTO THE MACHINE TO GIVE YOUR BALLOT STYLE. WELL, IT HADN'T BEEN WORKING. WE COULD SCAN IT AND IT WON'T, IT WOULDN'T WORK, YOU KNOW, SO THEY HAD TO MANUALLY PUT IN THE BALLOT STYLE, WHICH WAS CAUSING SOME ERRORS, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE GETTING THE WRONG BALLOT STYLE BECAUSE HUMAN ERROR, THE, THE WHOLE THING WITH THE CODE WAS YOU SCAN IT, IT AUTOMATICALLY ZIPS OUT A CODE FOR THE RIGHT BALLOT STYLE. WELL, IT HAD NOT BEEN WORKING AND WE HAD BEEN WORKING WITH 'EM PROBABLY ABOUT TWO YEARS. WE'VE TAKEN OUR SCANNER, WE'VE TAKEN OUR LAPTOPS WITH TO AUSTIN EVEN TO, UH, OUR SEMINARS, OUR CONFERENCES AND LET THEM LOOK AT 'EM. THEY TAKE 'EM TO THE ROOMS, THEY DO THIS STUFF AND THEY SAY, WELL, WE DON'T SEE WHAT THE PROBLEM IS. MAYBE IT'S THE OTHER COMPANY BECAUSE WE, WE HAVE ONE COMPANY THAT WE DO OUR VOTER REGISTRATION THROUGH AND WE CREATE OUR ELECTION THROUGH ON ONE SIDE AND THEN WE CREATE OUR BALLOT ON ANOTHER SIDE. SO THEY'RE SAYING, WELL, MAYBE THEY'RE NOT TALKING. YOU KNOW, SO THEN YOU GET BACK AND FORTH WITH BOTH COMPANIES AND YOU TRY TO SEE WHO'S NOT TALKING TO WHO AND WHAT'S GOING ON AND YOU KNOW, SO FOR ABOUT TWO YEARS NOW, BRENDA CAME IN AND SHE FLAT TOLD 'EM THAT, OKAY, IF IT DOESN'T WORK, WHY WOULD WE WANNA BUY YOUR EQUIPMENT? AND I TOTALLY AGREE WITH THAT. IF IT DOESN'T WORK, WHICH WAS GREAT, WE, YOU KNOW, THAT WAS WHAT GOT 'EM ON THEIR TOES. 'CAUSE IT WORKED THIS ELECTION, THIS DID IT WORK? IT WORKED IN IT DID IT DID WORK THIS ELECTION. IT WAS RIGHT UP TO THE LAST MINUTE, BUT IT WORKED IN MAY BECAUSE I'M GONNA TELL YOU, SHE PUT HER FOOT DOWN AND I WAS SO PROUD. 'CAUSE WE, THAT WAS THE FIRST TIME IN ABOUT TWO YEARS THAT, THAT HAS WORKED. THAT'S GOOD. GOOD. YES. WELL, I MEAN WE WERE PAYING FOR IT AND FOR THE CONVENIENCE OF THE STAFF, THE CONVENIENCE OF THE JUDGES AND THE PEOPLE, WELL THE FUNDERS, EVERYBODY CUTS DOWN THE POSSIBILITY OF RIGHT. AND SO, UM, AND IT TAKES A LOT TO PROGRAM THESE THINGS, YOU KNOW? YEAH. IMAGINE PHILIP PROGRAMS THE BALLOT ON THIS END. [00:55:01] YEP. AND WHAT HE PROGRAMS OVER THERE. I PROGRAM IN ON THE, THE OTHER SIDE FOR THE VOTER SIDE. THEN WE HAVE TO BLEND THEM AND THAT'S WHEN THEY START PULLING THE RIGHT CODE. AND WE, IT'S TEDIOUS AND THAT'S WHY WE TRY TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE THAT SCANNER, YOU KNOW, AND IF WE DON'T HAVE IT, THEN YOU'VE GOT PEOPLE GOING THROUGH, WE MAY HAVE 30 SOMETHING BALLOT STYLES, SO THEN THEY'RE SCROLLING THROUGH TRYING TO FIND THE RIGHT BALLOT STYLE. OF COURSE THEY'RE GONNA MAKE, PROBABLY MAKE AN ERROR AND THEY HAVEN'T. AND YOU KNOW, WE GET CHEWED OUT FOR THAT, WHICH IS SOMETHING WE, YOU KNOW, WE JUST, ALL WE DO IS APOLOGIZE AT A CERTAIN POINT. BUT, BUT SHE DID GET IT WORKING, SO I'M PROUD OF THAT. SO, OKAY. SO THE DEAL IS WE'RE BEGINNING BRENDA TRYING TO KIND OF WORK WITH THEM ON MAYBE GOING OUT TO BID, UH, PROPOSAL WHERE WE NEED TO, TO DO, UH, TO UH, LOOK AT WHAT'S OUT THERE AND WHAT KIND OF PRICE. IT'S NOT GONNA BE CHEAP. I THINK THE GUY OTHER DAY WAS MILLION. YEAH, OVER A MILLION. AND DO WE HAVE SOME OTHER COMPANIES GONNA COME DEMONSTRATE? I'M SURE THEY'LL, I'M, THEY GOT A LOT OF THAT ONE AND YEAH, THE GREAT FLAT. I THOUGHT PRETTY. IS IT S AND S OR DOMINION OR, SO THOSE, THOSE ARE THE ONLY OTHER TWO I THINK I'M FAMILIAR WITH. I KNOW THE SES AND S. YEAH. I KNOW THEY WANT TO COME AND UH, WHAT I WAS GONNA DO, SET UP A JUST WHERE PEOPLE COULD COME AND GO AND LOOK AT IT AND SEE WHAT THEY THINK AND I PROMISED HIM WE WOULD DO THAT. WE PROBABLY NEED TO DO THE SAME THING WITH THE DOMINION. UH, AND THEN WE'LL CHECK WITH THE URBAN COUNTY MOST AND SEE WHERE THEY'RE OVER THERE. BUT YOU KNOW, THEY DO IT. UH, WE PROBABLY PARTICIPATE SOME SORT OF, IT'D BE NICE TO HAVE HERE AT THE SAME TIME GIVE A BID MORE. YOU SEE LOAD MACHINES AT THE SAME TIME. ONE OVER THERE, ONE SAT OVER HERE, ONE SAT OVER THERE. STAND IN THE MIDDLE, SAY, OKAY, WHICH ONE OF Y'ALL GONNA SELL YOU ONE OF THESE? THE CHEAPEST. IN ALL HONESTY. THERE YOU GO. THE CITIZENS. I THINK THE COUNTY SHOULD MANDATE THAT STATE PAY SO WE CAN VOTE. GOOD LUCK ON THAT. YEAH, . YEAH, WE'LL TRY THAT WAY. TRY IT. OKAY. ANYBODY HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? TAKE A BREAK. I'M GOOD. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND I THINK WE'RE ALL KIND OF EXCITED ABOUT THIS. GUESS SO PROCESS OF VOTING WHAT WE CALL THEM, THE VOTE CENTERS, VOTING CENTERS. YEAH. THESE CHANGES THAT HE HAS RECOMMENDED. THE BOTTOM LINE, PUT THOSE IN THE BUDGET. WHAT THE BOTTOM LINE CHANGES THIS PAGE HERE. WELL, WE HAVE NO IDEA UNTIL WE PUT THE NUMBERS IN. I'LL JUST LOOKING AT CHANGES OVER HERE IN THE RIGHT COST. HOW THAT COMPARE WITH YOU GOT A $3,000 INCREASE, A $5,000 INCREASE, JUST EIGHT. WE GOT A MINUS, MINUS 4,000. SO THERE'S A MINUS 3000 AND A MINUS 3000. A 1000 INCREASE. SO THAT ALL COME OUT THE SAME. PRETTY, PRETTY CLOSE. OKAY. AND COME BACK. IS THAT GOOD? YEAH. SO JUDGE, WE'RE GOING TO TAKE A QUICK BREAK. OKAY. AND, UH, JUST RELAX AND WE GOT BANANAS AROUND . WE GOT DONUTS, HEALTH FOOD OVER HERE. SO WE'LL TAKE A BREAK ABOUT NINE 30 IF THAT'S OKAY. YEAH. I'M GONNA GO BACK ACROSS THE STREET AND GO RIGHT BACK. WELL ACTUALLY WE CAN DO, RONNIE IS UP NEXT. NO, UH, LAURIE THE NEXT. WELL, MR. ORFIELD'S UP NEXT 10, SO IF YOU WANT TO, YOU CAN COME BACK. HE'S AT NINE 20. HE'S AT NINE 20. HE'S AT NINE. HE'S ON TIME. OH, YOU'RE ON TIME. WELL, WE'LL JUST DO YOU WHILE YOU'RE HERE. WHAT, SOMEBODY CAME OVER THERE AND SAID SHOW UP EARLY BECAUSE WE'RE MOVING ALONG. WHERE WAS HE INITIALLY? UH, HE, HE, IF YOU LOOK ON THE NEW LIST I GAVE YOU, HE IS AT NINE 20 TODAY, BUT HE WAS ON MONDAY AFTERNOON. OKAY, SO GO BACK TO THE FRONT AND BOOK YES WAS FINE. IT WAS LIKE AT THREE, I THINK ON MONDAY THROUGH THAT PACKET, JUDGE. AND THEN A HANDOUT. [01:00:03] IT'S GONNA BE DEPARTMENT 4 0 4. YOU DON'T WANT GOOD. NO CHANGES. GIMME A CHECK MARK. NO CHANGES CLERK. THAT'S IT RIGHT THERE. OKAY, HERE WE'RE EVERYBODY. YEAH, WE'RE READY. ALRIGHT, JUDGE, YOU ARE NOT REQUESTING ANY CHANGES, SIR. GOOD SIR? NO, I'M FINE. ALL MY, UH, ALL MY NEEDS ARE BEING MET. I HAVE NO COMPLAINTS. UH, EVERYTHING THAT I, THAT I NEEDED, I, I'VE ALREADY OBTAINED SO I'M FINE. OKAY. I KNOW WE'RE HAVING AN INDIGEN DEFENSE COURT MEETING TODAY. TODAY AT LUNCH. AND SO WE'LL COME BACK, UH, WITH ANY CHANGES ON DAMAGE TO DEFENSE. UH, THE PERSON THAT WORKS OUTTA YOUR OFFICE THAT'S UNDER YOUR OFFICE, WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT. TALKING ABOUT ANNETTE. ANNETTE, YES. YEAH. UH, AND THEN, UH, I DON'T KNOW, DO WE HAVE ANY, UH, JUDGE, SEE ANYTHING THAT IS, UH, UNUSUAL OR NOT UNUSUAL? ? THE ONLY THING I WOULD ASK? NO, SIR. THE ONLY THING I WOULD ASK YOU IS OUR, THE INDIGENT HEALTH COORDINATOR MENTIONED THAT SOME OF HER SOFTWARE IS INCREASING AND I KNOW ANNETTE USES LEXISNEXIS TO HELP WITH THE INDIGENT DEFENSE. SO, AND YOU KNOW, IF HER SOFTWARE REQUIREMENTS ARE GONNA GO UP, INCREASE. I DUNNO. YOU MEAN LIKE HER PERSONAL UH, COUNSEL THEY USE NO, NO, NO. WHAT SHE USES TO SEARCH TO SEE IF THOSE, UH, DEFENDANTS ARE INDIGENT. SHE USES THAT LEXINEXIS SOFTWARE. I THINK USUALLY THOSE INCREASES ARE ACROSS THE BOARD FOREVER. THAT'S WHAT I'M THINKING. WE MIGHT NEED TO INCREASE THAT JUDGE. AND IT'S ONLY LIKE NOT A LOT OF MONEY. I MEAN, I THINK WE SHOULD INCLUDE A LITTLE BIT JUST, JUST IN CASE. SURE. I AGREE. AND THEN THE OTHER ONE I WANTED TO LOOK AT ON TRAINING, EDUCATION AND CONFERENCE, WE BUDGETED, UH, 3000, UH, THIS YEAR. AND THEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT 3000 FOR NEXT YEAR. OKAY. 2015 WE SPENT 7 55 AND 21 AND 2016 WE'VE GOT A CREDIT BACK FOR 21. AND THEN THIS YEAR SO FAR YOU'VE ONLY SPENT $60. AND SO WHAT'S THE DEAL? WELL, LEMME WRITE ON THE JUDGE. OKAY, GOOD. THESE THINGS THAT HE GOES TO, HE COMES OVER AND HE SAYS, I THINK I'M IN TROUBLE. I SAID, WHY? HE SAID, BECAUSE YOU WROTE CHECKS FOR ME GO TO SCHOOL AND THEY GAVE ME A CHECK. SO HERE, AND SO WE PUT IT BACK IN. OKAY, GOOD. SO DO WE NEED TO BUDGET 3000? UH, I DON'T KNOW IF THEY GIVE IT BACK TO HIM EVERY YEAR OR IF IT'S JUST SPORADIC, YOU KNOW, WHENEVER THEY GIVE YOU A CHECK. I DON'T ASK, YOU KNOW, YOU, I'LL SAY THIS, THE, THE SEMINARS THAT I GO TO, LIKE I'M GOING TO ONE NEXT WEEK. SO THE SEMINARS ARE LIKE BY PART OF THE SUMMER IN THE FALL. AND SO I REALLY HAVEN'T GONE TO ANY SO FAR THAT I, I'M ABOUT TO GO TO ONE NEXT WEEK OR TWO. THEY DO. SOMETIMES THEY REFUND, REFUND ME. SOMETIMES THEY DON'T. I I NEVER DID. I NEVER HAVE ASKED BECAUSE IT DIDN'T ENOUGH. WELL, THIS IS PRIMARILY FOR REGISTRATION FEES, IS THAT CORRECT? CORRECT. YES SIR. I'M SURE WE DON'T NEED $3,000 JUST FOR REGISTRATION. NOW YOU, WE MAY NEED TO DO SOMETHING ON YOUR OUT OF, OUT OF COUNTY TRAVEL, UH, BECAUSE, UH, WHERE YOU GOT, UH, MILEAGE MILLS AND LODGING, UH, WELL YOU ACTUALLY ON MILEAGE MILL AND LODGING, YOU NOT WHERE SHE IS, WHERE WE'RE ON THAT. IT DOESN'T ME IN THAT EITHER RIDE WITH SOMEBODY WHAT IT IS. BUT NOW YOU NEED TO KEEP IN MIND, MAN, I'LL TELL YOU, I KNOW IF YOU'RE GONNA DO THIS COUNTY COURT AT LAW ONE, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO MAKE IT KIND OF COMPARISON TO I'M YEAH, WELL I, I'M JUST LETTING YOU KNOW AHEAD OF TIME. I'M STAND THAT, BUT I THINK IT'S A VALID QUESTION TO ASK. IF WE'RE BUDGETING AND YOU DON'T NEED IT, THAT'S MONEY THAT WE, I DON'T WANT YOU TO, I MEAN, I WANT YOU TO GO WHERE YOU NEED TO GO, BUT IF WE'RE NOT SPENDING IT, WHY TIED UP AND IT WOULD BE BETTER USED MAYBE SOMEPLACE ELSE, BUT, [01:05:01] SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS, BUT, UH, CAN WE WORK WITH YOU ON SURE. THIS AND, UH, MAYBE KAREN KW AND I CAN SIT DOWN WITH YOU AND TALK AND WE'LL, WITH JUDGE RICHES TOO, TO MAKE SURE THERE'S EQUITABLE THERE. YOU RUN YOUR COURT, HE RUNS HIS COURT, BUT SOMETIMES YOU GO TO THE SAME CONFERENCES. I UNDERSTAND THAT. SO IS THAT OKAY WITH EVERYBODY? WE COME BACK AND, UH, WORK, WORK THROUGH THAT JUST TO MAKE SURE WE DON'T WANT CHART CHANGE. YEAH. ABOUT THE EXTRA HELP YOU GONNA NEED ANY THIS NEXT YEAR AND USED ANY YET. SO NO, WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE, UH, WE'RE GOOD PERSONNEL WISE. YEAH. WE'RE, WE'RE FINE. SO YOU WANT US TO CUT THAT DOWN OR ELIMINATE IT? I WOULDN'T ELIMINATE IT. IT'S $10,000. NOW, THE ONLY TIME THAT MIGHT COME INTO PLAY WOULD BE LIKE ON THE SUBSTITUTE COURT REPORT. YEAH. AND FORTUNATELY HERE BEFORE SCOTT SMITH WAS THE COURT REPORTER, HE HEALTHY, WEALTHY WISE IS WHATEVER HE'D HAVE TO TAKE OFF VERY MUCH. UH, BUT IF HE DID, HE'D BE IN TROUBLE. WELL, , THEY CUT COURSE, HE RETIRED. AND I'VE GOT A NEW COURT REPORTER, UH, AND, AND TAKE IT OFF EITHER YOU WANT ME TO CUT IT IN HALF? MAYBE? I, I DON'T THINK SO. OKAY. VERY HEALTHY. YEAH. WE, WE'VE CUT IT FROM 10,000 TO 5,000. IF FOR SOME REASON YOUR COURT REPORTER GETS SICK OR IS OUT OR SOMETHING, WE CAN ALWAYS COME BACK TO JUDGE. YEAH. WELL, DOES THAT, WOULD THAT ALSO COVER, UH, UH, A VISITING JUDGE? I DON'T, NO. I ALWAYS PAY THOSE SEPARATELY. SEPARATE. SEPARATE. WE PAY FOR THOSE SEPARATE, BECAUSE BY LAW VISITING JUDGE IS ACTUALLY BECOMES AN EMPLOYEE. WE HAVE TO PUT 'EM THROUGH PAYROLL. THAT'S, THAT'S HIS WHOLE SEPARATE DEPARTMENT. OKAY. WELL WE'RE ALL, WE ARE GONNA HAVE RIGHT NOW. YEAH. PRIOR, THEY ALWAYS HAD A MARKER THERE IN CASE THEY WERE OUT WITH SOMETHING AND THEY HAD TO HAVE A VISITING JUDGE. WE WOULD PAY THEM A 10 99. CAN'T REALLY DO THAT BECAUSE THEY'RE COMING IN, THEY'RE USING YOUR BENCH, YOUR PEOPLE. SO THAT MAKES THEM DIFFERENT EMPLOYEES. WHAT THE IS LOOKS AT, LET'S CUT IT BACK FROM 10 TO FIVE AND THEN JUDGE, IF SOMETHING HAPPENS, WE CAN ALWAYS COME BACK AND MOVE SOME MONEY. HE'S GOT A GOOD CHECK. WE'RE, WE'RE IN GOOD SHAPE DOWN THERE. UH, I GOTTA, UH, YOU KNOW, OUR COURT IS HIGH VOLUME AND, UH, WE MOVE THE CASES HIGH VOLUME. UH, I, I'M, I'M JUST PERSONNEL. WE HAVE GREAT JOB. THEY KNOW STUFF. THEY DON'T LEAVE ME LOOK OVER THE SHOULDER ALL THE TIME. SO JUDGE DOES, JUDGE AND I SHARE A DOOR WE NEVER OPEN BECAUSE YOU GOT IT BLOCKED, I THINK. BUT I HEAR YOU. WHEN HE GETS STIRRED UP. I MEAN, AND HE PROBABLY DOES THE SAME TO ME TOO, BUT, UH, CAN'T UNDERSTAND YOU, BUT I HEAR YOU. IT'S MY RADIO. YEAH. OKAY. THAT'S MY RADIO. OKAY. ANYBODY ELSE GOT ANY QUESTIONS? AND WE'LL WORK WITH YOU AND KAREN AND, UH, AND I, AND YOU TALKED ABOUT IF WE NEED TO ADJUST THESE OTHERS ON THE TRAVEL AND THE SCHOOL OKAY. TO MAKE THAT, UH, IF WE DON'T NEED BUDGETED, THAT'S NOT BUDGETED, BUT IF WE DO, WE'LL LEAVE. OKAY. OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WE THANK Y'ALL ALL. NOW TAKE A BREAK. OKAY. OKAY. SORRY. I BEHAVE. SLAP. YOU JUST GO AHEAD. JUST GO AHEAD. GO AHEAD. I DON'T KNOW. YOU MIGHT SLAP BACK. NO, HE'S FUNNY THOUGH. HE'S TOO NINE. ALRIGHT, RON, THANKS FOR CHANGING YOUR SCHEDULE AND COMING UP. SO WE'LL GO AHEAD AND GET, GET STARTED HERE AND, UH, LOOKS LIKE YOU'RE, UH, NOT ASKING FOR ANYTHING OTHER THAN LOWERING YOUR EXTRA HELP BUDGET BY A HUNDRED DOLLARS. WELL, YOU KNOW, JUDGE, WE GOT YOUR MEMO. SEE WHERE YOU CAN CUT. AND I HOPE YOU APPRECIATE THAT. I, WE'VE GOT IT PRETTY LEAN DOWN THERE, BUT I WANTED TO CHIP IN WHERE I COULD EVERY HUNDRED DOLLAR HELPS. [01:10:04] AND I THINK THE ONLY THING THAT FOR THAT OFFICE, UH, IS I'D SENT BOBBY BRIDGES A, A PHOTO OF WHAT WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO DO WHERE THE EXISTING REMNANT OF A WORKSTATION RESIDES. AND I FEEL LIKE IT'S, YOU KNOW, PROBABLY LESS THAN $2,000 TO MAKE THE, UH, MAKE THE WORKSPACE MORE USABLE AND, YOU KNOW, IT OUGHT TO BE A SOLUTION THAT LASTS FOR 20, 25 YEARS. AND, UH, I'D BE GLAD TO SHARE PICTURES OF THAT. YOU KNOW, IT'S, IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT THE MONEY'S THERE THIS YEAR OR CAN ALLOCATE SOME OF THE BUILDING REPAIR MONEY FOR NEXT YEAR. YEAH. AND IF THE COUNTY CAN'T SWING IT, UM, YOU KNOW, I'D BE GLAD TO DONATE THAT TO THE COUNTY, UM, UH, TO MAKE IT ONE USABLE FOR ME. AND TWO LAST, MAKE A LASTING IMPACT ON THIS BUILDING. OKAY. ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? UH, ON THE TREASURER'S BUDGET? NO. NAH, IT LOOKED PRETTY GOOD. WASN'T COMING. HUNDRED BUCKS. HUNDRED BUCKS. A HUNDRED BUCKS. HUNDRED BUCKS. YOU KNOW, WE GOT A LOT OF WORK ORDER ON THING FOR PARDON? TO SELL OUT A WORK ORDER. THEY WORK. WELL, I DIDN'T WANT TO TILL, YOU KNOW, I LET Y'ALL KNOW THAT I ASKED FOR IT AND I'LL BE GLAD TO FILL OUT THE WORK ORDER TOO. YEAH, AWESOME. I DUNNO, HE'LL PUT IT IN PRIORITY. I REMINDING THAT EVERY OTHER WEDNESDAY'S AN IMPORTANT DAY IN HIS LIFE. GO AND HERE'S SOME NUTS FOR Y'ALL. I SEE THOSE DONUTS. CAN I TRADE NUTS FOR DONUT? YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. HAVE. OH, THANK YOU. THE DINOSAUR IN THE WHITE. THAT WAS BAD. I HAVEN'T READ IT. I KNOW SHE'S A LITTLE LONGER TIME. MAKE THIS HAPPEN RIGHT AFTER THE BREAK. I THINK SHE'S RIGHT BEHIND ALL, UH, THE FIRE MARSHALS STUFF. JUDGE, YOU GO RIGHT THERE. THAT'S ALL. ALRIGHTY. SO, UH, WE HAVE YOUR BUDGET LISTED, UH, HERE AND, UH, TUESDAY. GO OVER HERE. TELL US WHAT YOUR, UH, WHAT YOUR THOUGHTS ARE. SURE. OKAY. SO BASICALLY, UM, THE HUMAN RESOURCE SALARY WAS ALREADY INCREASED WHEN I CAME ON BOARD AND THERE WAS AN ADJUSTMENT MADE THERE. UM, I DON'T THINK YOU'RE GONNA NEED EXTRA HELP, UM, IN 2018 BASED ON THE USE OF THE TWC FOLKS. I THINK I CAN REDUCE MY BUDGET THERE. AND UM, SO I HOPE THAT THAT WILL, BY GIVING THAT BACK, THAT WILL HELP A LITTLE BIT. THAT'S ONLY A THOUSAND DOLLARS, BUT I DIDN'T THINK I WOULD USE THAT. I DIDN'T THINK THAT IT WAS SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD USE IN THAT COMING YEAR. UM, MY OFFICE SUPPLY BUDGET, I DO NEED TO INCREASE, UM, BASED ON THE SOFTWARE, THE NEOGA SOFTWARE AND THE TECHNOLOGY THAT WE'RE GONNA INSTALL IN THE HR OFFICE. I TALKED TO GEORGE AND WE CAN PURCHASE FOUR WORKSTATIONS, WHICH WE WOULD PROBABLY END UP PUTTING IN THAT ROOM BACK THERE. WILL WE HAVE DISTORT THE FILES NOW AND SET UP THE WORKSTATIONS BACK THERE FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE COMING IN TO APPLY FOR A JOB OR DO THEIR ENTIRE ORIENTATION SO THAT WE START TWO PURPOSES THERE. UM, BECAUSE EVERYTHING WILL BE AUTOMATED GOING FORWARD. RIGHT. UM, AND THEN USE THE MONITORS THAT WE HAVE IN ER OFFICE BECAUSE WE HAVE THE OLD KY LITTLE MONITORS. WE LIKE TO UPGRADE TO THE, THE BIGGER MONITORS AND, UM, USE THESE MONITORS FOR THOSE COMPUTERS IN THERE. SO, UM, HE ESTIMATED THAT WOULD BE, WHAT, $3,500 TO DO THAT? DID YOU ASK HIM IF HE [01:15:01] HAD FUNDS AVAILABLE TO DO THAT THIS YEAR? NO, SIR. I DID NOT. YOU MIGHT JUST DOUBLE CHECK ON THAT. I DIDN'T HAVE A BUDGET FOR IT THIS YEAR, BUT I CAN ASK. WELL, YOU MIGHT ASK HIM. HE HE MIGHT BE ABLE TO. OKAY. IT MAY NOT, BUT IT DOESN'T HURT. OKAY. MOST OF THE INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY STUFF WE NEED TO DO TO THE IT DEPARTMENT. SO WE KEEP IT ALL TOGETHER. SOFTWARE MAINTENANCE, HOME, GOT HEAT ALL. OKAY. HOW WE TYPICALLY DONE THAT, I'LL ASK YOU. OKAY. UM, BONDS, UM, RIGHT NOW I AM GONNA HAVE TO INCREASE THAT BECAUSE I NO LONGER HAVE AN ACTIVE NOTARY LICENSE AND I NEED TO GET ONE BECAUSE WE ONLY HAVE ONE NOTARY IN THE OFFICE. AND, UM, SO I'LL BE APPLYING FOR MY NOTARY SO THAT WHEN DEPUTY'S OUT OR WHATEVER, I'LL BE ABLE TO NOTARIZE AND PSYCH EVALUATIONS. I DON'T NEED THAT BUDGET FOR PSYCH EVALUATIONS BECAUSE THAT'S ALL DONE THROUGH THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE OR THE FIRE MARSH'S OFFICE. I THINK THAT WAS A FLUKE, UM, THAT THAT GOT CODED SOMEWHERE ALONG THE LINES TO THE HR DEPARTMENT BECAUSE WHEN WE CODE THOSE BILLS, WE WOULD CUT IT TO THE APPROPRIATE DEPARTMENT. SO I DON'T EVEN NEED THAT $600 BUDGET. NO. UH, CURRENT HR DIRECTOR ASK US TO SET THAT UP. SO DO I NEED IT? BECAUSE I DON'T THINK I DO. I MEAN I MIGHT, BUT I, I'M NOT AWARE OF ANY TIME THAT WE WOULD HAVE A PSYCH EVALUATION CHARGED TO OUR DEPARTMENT. I REMEMBER FOR SOME REASON SHE BROUGHT THAT UP THAT REMEMBER TWO YEARS AGO THAT, I MEAN BASICALLY THAT WHEN THEY INSTALLED IT, THAT SHE SAID SHE WAS DOING SOME KIND OF SIDE TEST OVER AT THE, THE GUY THAT WAS COMING THERE, BUT AT THEIR OFFICE. I DON'T, I DON'T REMEMBER WHAT IT WAS. WELL, OF COURSE WOULD SHERIFF, DO YOU REMEMBER THAT SHERIFF DEPARTMENT, WOULDN'T IT? THAT DOES PSYCHOLOGICAL KIND AND I THINK YEAH, BUT I MEAN, SHE HAD A SPECIFIC REASON. NOW IF SHE DO PRE-HIRE ANY KIND OF PRE-HIRE, UM, PERSONALITY TESTING, THAT MIGHT BE A REASON TO HAVE IT. BUT NO, IT WAS HAD TO DO WITH THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT OR SOMETHING. IT HAD TO AND IT WOULD BE INVOLVED WITH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, FIRE MARSHAL OFFICE. WELL, MAYBE THAT'S WHY, BECAUSE THEY WERE LICENSED OFFICERS. LET'S JUST LEAVE IT THERE THEN. MAYBE IT WAS A, MAYBE IT WAS THE FIRE MARSHAL'S OFFICE, BECAUSE I DON'T THINK HAS THIS MISSED BUDGET? I DON'T THINK. I DON'T THINK SO. I DON'T THINK SO. HE DIDN'T BRING IT UP. I DON'T REMEMBER HIM SAYING ANYTHING ABOUT IT YESTERDAY. TELL, YEAH. YOU KNOW, IT'S KIND OF LIKE THE NEXT ITEM. WE PUT THAT IN THERE. WE DID ROAD BRIDGE. YEAH. TRYING TO, I MEAN, NOT BACKGROUND. UH, WE WERE GOING TO PUT ONE IN THERE FOR, FOR PHYSICAL. YEAH. AND, AND, UH, OH, YOU FOOD GONNA TRY TO DO OFFICIAL, LIKE UP PS LIKE ROAD BRIDGE GUYS, YOU A, UH, UH, FITNESS FOR DUTY PHYSICAL. YES. THAT'S A GOOD IDEA. BUT IT'S VERY EXPENSIVE. KIND OF DEPENDS ON HOW MANY, HOW MUCH YOUR TURN, HOW MUCH TURNOVER YOU HAVE. WELL, YOU SEE THAT. YEAH. AND, AND YOU DON'T HAVE THAT MUCH TURNOVER, SO IT WOULDN'T BE THAT BAD. BUT I THINK IF IT JUST CLASS HAS FOR ANY POSITION THAT REQUIRES THAT KIND OF OUTDOOR PHYSICAL WORK. PHYSICAL, PHYSICAL, LIKE CONSTANT WORK, LIKE THAT IS A GOOD IDEA. WELL, WE HIRED, UH, WORKS, WORKS FOR . TOMMY? NO, THE YOUNG BOY. OH, WHATEVER HIS NAME IS BILL. OH, THE YOUNG BOY. TOMMY. BUT HE CAME UP, HIM AND HIS FRIEND TO WORK AND ONE HIS FRIENDS MAN, HE, HE COULDN'T GO 10 FEET AND HAD TO STOP REST, PUT THE SHADE, YOU KNOW. WELL HE LEFT. I MEAN HE COULDN'T, COULDN'T PHYSICALLY DO IT. AND THAT KIND OF, IT KIND OF WORRIED ME THAT WE PUT SOMEBODY OUT ON THE SHOVEL. ESPECIALLY IF YOU HAMMER IN THE MIDDLE OF THE SUMMER AND THEY HAVE ACCLIMATED TO IT. THAT'S, THAT'S ANOTHER THING THAT WELL, BUT I ALREADY HAD TO BUY A COUPLE OF HERNIA SURGERIES. YEAH. I MEAN WHAT IF, WHAT IF THEY RMS CUP? WELL, THAT COULD BE, BUT THEN AGAIN, THAT COULD BE SOMEBODY WHO'S BEEN REALLY GOOD HELP TOO. THEY COULD DO THAT. THAT'S, THAT'S JUST TO GIVE. BUT YOU KNOW, BUT KNOWING THAT THEY ARE IN GOOD SHAPE TO START WITH IS ALWAYS THE, HAS A, GIVES US A LITTLE PEACE OF MIND. AND THAT'S SOMETHING YOU CAN LOOK INTO. YES, I CAN, I CAN GIVE US SOME PRICE. MM-HMM . WE CAN AT LEAST HAVE A LINE COMPARE. SURE. UM, AND WE MIGHT EVEN BE ABLE TO GET IT INTO THIS, UH, THAT EMPLOYEE CYCLE. EVALUAT, I MEAN, MIGHT BE ABLE TO PUT PHYSICAL CYCLE ALL IN THE SAME LINE OUT MAYBE. OKAY. OKAY. YOU SEE WHAT I'M SAYING? MEDICAL, PRE MEDICAL EVALUATIONS. YEAH. A LOT. AND THAT COULD INCLUDE ALL IF WE CAME UP WITH, YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? YEAH. WE CAN, WE COULD LOOK THAT. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT IF WE, EVEN IF WE HAVE TO TAKE IT OUT, IF WE HAVE TO PAY FOR IT HIGHER. I COULD EVEN SEE THAT THE COUNTY [01:20:01] HEALTH INSURANCE AND UNEMPLOYMENT COMP. THAT'S ONE REASON WE HAVE PUT THOSE IN THIS HR BECAUSE THEY SHOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT AS A GENERAL FUND. YOU FOLLOW ME? DOES THAT WORK FOR ME? BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE THE HEALTH INSURANCE AND EVERYTHING'S PAID OUT TOO. OKAY. UM, NEW HIRE BACKGROUND. I WAS PROPOSING AN INCLUDE THERE BECAUSE OF THE TREND AND LOOKING AT THE TREND THAT THAT, UM, WE ARE EXPERIENCING WITH THE NUMBER OF HIRES AND WHERE WE'RE AT YEAR TO DATE. AND I KIND OF THINK THAT WITH THE TREND OF THE WAY THE COUNTY'S GROWING AND THE POSSIBILITY OF US ADDING MORE STAFF ABOVE THAT, THERE MIGHT BE A NEED TO ADD TO THAT. YEAH. SO I AGREE WITH THAT. BUMPED IT A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE I DIDN'T WANT TO GO OVER BUDGET. I MAY BE GOING A LITTLE TOO HIGH, BUT I'D RATHER BE HIGH THAN GO OVER BUDGET. UH, SHE'S ALREADY OVER BUDGET BY ABOUT $35. THE TWO 50 IS NOT A HOW LOW, UM, THE, UH, DRUG TEST, HOWEVER, GO BACK UP A LITTLE BIT. WE ARE, I THINK UNLESS YOU'VE GOT A NEW NUMBER HERE, I THINK I'M A LITTLE UNDER ON THAT ONE. BUT AGAIN, I KIND OF COUNTED FOR TREND AND SO I JUST DECREASE THAT BY 500. YEAH. WE HAVE 5,000 BUDGETED AND YOU SPENT 2018 ALREADY. CAN, AND I MEANT TO SAY THIS EARLIER, CAN WE GO BACK UP TO THE TRAINING EDUCATION CONFERENCE? SURE. UH, WHAT, WHAT HAVE WE SPENT? AND OF COURSE I KNOW WE'VE HAD A CHANGE OVER DURING THE, UH, AT THE BEGINNING. WHAT HAVE WE SPEND ON THAT? AND THIS IS THE REGISTRATION FEES PRIMARILY REGISTRATION FEES ON, IT'S NOT TRAVEL. THAT'S ALL SEPARATE. YEAH. YES. UM, LOST. WE HAVEN'T SPENT ANY, BECAUSE I GOT REFUNDED FOR THE TAC CONFERENCE AND SO DID PAGE AND THEN I JUST, YOU JUST APPROVED ONE YESTERDAY FOR ME TO GO TO THE T-C-D-R-S, UM, . BUT THAT AGAIN, THAT'S NOT REGISTRATION. THAT'S REGISTRATION. WELL, WHATEVER. WHAT, 200 THAT ONE WAS 250. YEAH, SOMETHING LIKE THAT. SO I'M WONDERING IF WE COULD, UH, BECAUSE IF YOU LOOK BACK IN, THERE'S ANOTHER T IN, UH, JULY, THEY SPENT $1,555 THEN 1185. YEAH. AND THAT'S, LORI TOOK EVERYBODY IN THE OFFICE AND, UH, WHENEVER SHE HAD A COMPLETELY NEW STAFF AND UH, THAT'S WHEN, I MEAN, WHEN EVERYBODY WENT AND I THINK DID THE SAME THING IN 2016. I REMEMBER. CORRECT. I MEAN, I DON'T SEE WHY WE COULDN'T DECREASE THAT TO AT LEAST A THOUSAND DOLLARS. THAT'S WHAT I'M WONDERING IF, IF TECH ALWAYS REIMBURSES US, WELL THEN FOR THE, FOR THE BIG CONFERENCE THAT THEY HAVE, THEN I DON'T SEE HOW WE COULD POSSIBLY SPEND MORE. YEAH. AND AGAIN, WE'RE JUST TALKING ABOUT REGISTRATION. RIGHT. SO LET'S THAT TO A THOUSAND THEN WHERE THEY ON MILE MILLS OF LODGING PRIOR YEARS, THAT'S ONE I'M PULLING UP NOW. THAT WOULD BE THE ONE THAT WOULD PROBABLY BE HIGHER THAN THE REGISTRATION. 4,500 ON THE BUDGET. AND THEY HAVE SPENT 13 87 0 4, WHICH THERE WAS A REFUND OF $314. AND I'M JUST CREDIT. SO THAT'S BEEN THE TAX CONFERENCE FOR PAIGE AND I, WE GOT REFUNDED AND THEN I JUST REQUESTED ONE FOR $500 FOR THE T-C-D-R-S CONFERENCE AND THE LODGING WAS ANOTHER WAS OF 500. SO THAT WOULD PUSH ME BETWEEN 3 435. THAT'D PROBABLY BE MORE THAN A ENOUGH GO. 35. 35. OKAY. GET THAT DOWN. OKAY. UM, OKAY. QUESTION. MM-HMM . WHERE SHE HAS THE, THE OFFICE SUPPLIES FOR THE 4,500. OKAY. DO YOU WANT THE COMPUTERS TO MOVE TO A SEPARATE LINE ITEM AND THE IT BUDGET THAT NEEDS TO GO TO IT? WE KEEP IT ALL THERE. WELL, THAT'S WHAT I'M ASKING. I WANT TO MAKE SURE BECAUSE I DON'T WANT, THAT'S WHAT WE DO DEPARTMENT TO EVERYBODY HAS A LINE ITEM FOR THEIR YEAH. AND THAT'S WHAT WE DO WITH THE OTHER DEPARTMENTS. AND SHE I'M SURE DIDN'T RECOGNIZE THAT, BUT, AND YOU'RE GETTING THE NEW SOFTWARE. HAVE YOU GOT A QUOTE ON THE MAINTENANCE FOR NEXT YEAR THAT GEORGE WILL INCLUDE IN THAT BUDGET FOR YOU? I GIVEN HIM THAT, THAT INFORMATION. OKAY. SO I'LL MOVE 3,500 TO A LINE ITEM JUST FOR HER, FOR KIOSK, FOR HR. I THINK THAT'S WHAT, THAT'S WHERE IT SHOULD GO. MY AUGUST QUESTION. WE DO THOUSAND. YEAH. OKAY. [01:25:03] EXCUSE ME. OKAY. OKAY. UM, CAN I JUST, I JUST WANT TO ADDRESS A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT I JUST WANTED TO KIND OF SAY THAT, UM, I KNOW THAT WE ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO ASK FOR SALARIES INCREASES AND I'M, AND I'M, I'M FINE WITH THAT, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO, UM, JUST LET THE COMMISSIONERS KNOW THAT I CAME TO KAUFFMAN COUNTY AND MY GOAL IS TO BE A HUMAN RESOURCE BUSINESS PARTNER TO EVERYBODY IN THE COUNTY. AND TO DO THAT, I WOULD, I WANT TO IMPROVE THE DEPARTMENT AND TO DO THAT, I NEED THE RESOURCES TO DO THAT. AND I APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT Y'ALL AGREED TO THE SOFTWARE AND THAT WE'RE GONNA BE ABLE TO KIND OF IMPROVE THE TECHNOLOGY IN THE DEPARTMENT AND HOPEFULLY IMPROVE THE PROCESSES THAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE. AND I HOPE THAT, UM, THAT WILL HELP US TO IMPROVE RISK MANAGEMENT AND SOME OTHER THINGS AS WELL. IF WE STREAMLINE SOME PROCESSES, WE CAN IMPROVE OTHER PLACES TOO. OKAY. DO YOU, UH, AT ONE TIME YOU AND I VISITED THAT YOU'VE NOT CUT A POSITION? WELL, I TELL YOU, I, THERE, I I, YOU KNOW, I'VE THOUGHT ABOUT IT AND I DON'T THINK I, I DON'T KNOW. I MEAN, BASICALLY WITH THE TREND AND THE WAY THAT THINGS ARE GOING, IF WE INTEND TO GROW, LIKE THE COUNTY IS ANTICIPATED, I DON'T KNOW. RIGHT. UM, I CAN TELL YOU THAT I DID SOME SURVEYS AND I LOOKED AT DIFFERENT COUNTIES AND THE RATIO OF HR STAFF TO EMPLOYEES. AND, UM, FOR INSTANCE, BASTROP COUNTY HAS 485 EMPLOYEES AND THEY HAVE FIVE HR STAFF. UM, LUBBOCK HAS, THEY DO LIKE OTHER THINGS, LIKE THEY HAVE A DIRECTOR PAYROLL AND THINGS OF THAT. THEY HAVE A DIRECTOR OF BENEFIT COORDINATOR. THEY HAVE A PAYROLL ADMINISTRATOR UNDER THAT. THEY HAVE AN HR COORDINATOR EXCLUSIVE TO THE SHERIFF SHERIFF'S OFFICE. AND THEY HAVE AN HRS, WHICH IS A BACKUP TO THE PAYROLL AND BENEFITS. AND THEN AN ADMIN. LUBBOCK HAS 300 EMPLOYEES AND THEY HAVE FOUR STAFF. LUBBOCK ONLY HAS 300 EMPLOYEES. THEY HAVE 300. THEY HAVE ONE, I'M SORRY, LET ME REPHRASE THAT. THEY HAVE ONE HR PERSON FOR EVERY 300 PEOPLE. OH, OKAY. I I FIGURED THAT. OKAY. B COUNTY B COUNTY HAS 167 EMPLOYEES AND THEY HAVE FOUR PEOPLE. THEY HAVE A PAYROLL PERSON IN THAT DEPARTMENT. OF COURSE YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT THOSE PEOPLE DO. THAT'S THE OTHER THING. WELL, THEY HAVE A DIRECTOR, AN ASSISTANT, A PAYROLL, AND A COORDINATOR. YEAH. SO YOU KIND OF GET AN IDEA OF WHAT THEY DO. UM, WASHINGTON COUNTY HAS 145 PEOPLE AND THEY JUST HAVE ONE PERSON. SO THE RATIO THAT WE HAVE CURRENTLY IS, IS FAIRLY EVEN. BUT I REALLY KIND OF NEED SOMEBODY THAT SPECIALIZES MORE IN BENEFITS AND MORE IN ORIENTATION. SO WHERE ARE YOU ON HIRING THE VACANT POSITION? SHE STARTS IN TWO WEEKS. YOU'VE GOT I'VE GOT AN ASSISTANT. SHE'LL BE MORE OF A, AN ORIENTATION, UH, CLERICAL DATA KIND OF PERSON. RIGHT. OKAY. WELL, I I, YOU'D MENTIONED THAT AT ONE TIME. AND SO IF YOU FEEL LIKE YOU NEED TO KEEP YOURSELF PLUS THE TWO, I, I THINK THAT'S, I THINK I'D DO FOR NOW. ABSOLUTELY. YOU'LL HAVE A BETTER IDEA IN THE FUTURE AS TIME MOVES FORWARD. BUT WE'RE NOT DECREASING, YOU KNOW, WE'RE INCREASING AS FAR AS POPULATION, WHICH MEANS WE WILL PROBABLY HAVE SOME INCREASES IN NUMBERS OF EMPLOYEES, EVEN THOUGH I AM PLEASED THAT WE, UH, HAVE NOT HAD A LOT OF REQUESTS FOR ADDITIONAL EMPLOYEES AT THIS POINT IN TIME. BUT WE'RE NOT THROUGH. I WOULD ANYWHERE PUT ANYBODY . YEAH. WELL THAT'S THE ISSUE. WE'RE KIND OF KIND OF OUTTA ROOM. YEAH. SO, BUT I THINK WE CAN MAKE IT WORK. OKAY. THIS WAY. HELP JUDGE, WOULD I ALSO BRING UP SURE. IN UH, IT'S BUDGET. WE NEED TO INCREASE THE NOVA TIME SIMPLY FOR LORI NEEDS TRAINING ON THIS. OKAY. WELL WE CAN GET TO THAT. JUST DON'T LET US FORGET DOING THAT. THAT WOULD BE IN IT. OKAY. YES, SIR. OKAY. OKAY. I THINK THAT'S WHERE IT SHOULD BE. I, I AGREE. BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE WE INITIALLY PUT, YOU NEED TO KEEP IT CONSISTENT SIMPLY FOR THE REASON SHE NEEDS TO KNOW HOW TO SET THOSE EMPLOYEES UP. AND SHE NEEDS TO BE TRAINED WHERE SHE CAN TRAIN HER NEW PEOPLE. WHERE YOU DO THAT TRAINING. I'VE GOT, I CAN DO IT ONLINE. OKAY. UM, THEY SAID THEY COULD DO IT THIS YEAR, NEXT WEEK ONLINE, 500 AN HOUR. OKAY. SO WE CAN GO AHEAD AND DO THAT THIS YEAR. HUNDRED 50 GOING, WHOA. NO TIME IS VERY, VERY CUMBERSOME. AND YOU HAVE TO SET IT UP CORRECTLY BECAUSE WHEN YOU TRANSFER THOSE PEOPLE INTO STW TO DO THE PAYROLL, IF THEY'RE NOT SET UP, YOU'VE GOT ALL KINDS OF TARIFFS. YEAH. IT'S VERY, IT'S NOT A VERY USER FRIENDLY PROGRAM. NOT LIKE YOUR AD. NO, NO. IT'S VERY COMPLICATED TO ME. I, I DON'T KNOW. NO, IT'S TERRIBLE. IF YOU DON'T CHANGE, IF SOMEBODY'S SUPERVISOR NEEDS TO BE CHANGED, YOU DON'T JUST CHANGE 'EM IN ONE PLACE. YOU'VE GOTTA CHANGE 'EM IN MULTIPLE PLACES. AND IF YOU DON'T CHANGE IT JUST RIGHT. THE OTHER DAY WE HAD SOMEBODY CALL, I CAN SEE EVERYBODY IN THE COUNTY NOW. SO IT'S, IT'S VERY COMPLICATED. WHY DO WE [01:30:01] HAVE IT THEN? IS THAT THE ONLY THING WE PAY? WELL, IT SPEEDS UP PAYROLL BECAUSE WE HAD A PAYROLL CLERK WHEN I TOOK IT UNDER ME WHEN Y'ALL ASKED ME TO TAKE IT, CLEAN IT UP THAT IT WAS TAKEN FOUR DAYS TO DO PAYROLL. WE'VE CUT IT DOWN. I JUST SIGNED AND APPROVED PAYROLL EARLY THIS MORNING AND IT'S TUESDAY. IT'S CUT DOWN. THAT MEANS WE'RE GONNA GET PAID THIS WEEK. YES SIR. , IT'S A GOOD PROGRAM. I'M NOT, I'M NOT DOUBTING THAT. I'M NOT SAYING THAT IT IS A GOOD, BUT, AND IT'S GOOD BECAUSE IT, IT HAS THE CAPABILITIES FOR MULTIPLE USERS AND MULTIPLE ADMINISTRATORS. OKAY. THE PROBLEM IS, IS WHEN SOMEBODY'S NOT THOROUGHLY TRAINED AND UNDERSTANDS THE COMPUTER AND THE SOFTWARE, IT MESSES UP. AND THAT'S ONE THING YOU DON'T WANNA MESS UP IS SOMEBODY'S PAYCHECK. RIGHT. THAT'S RIGHT. SO THAT'S WHY I'M ASKING THAT. WE PUT A LITTLE BIT EXTRA PAD IN THAT BUDGET SO SHE CAN BE TRAINED. GOOD. I KNOW HOW TO DO IT, BUT I'M NOT GONNA TRAIN HER. RIGHT. WELL, I MEAN ARE YOU CAN DO THAT NOW. WHAT IS NOW, BECAUSE I CALLED THIS WEEKEND, I CAN GET TRAINED NOW. YEAH. IF THEY PAY ME 500 AN HOUR, I'LL TRAIN HER. I HAVE YOU. I DON'T KNOW WHAT I'M DOING. BUT, BUT SHE'S GOING GO IS THE TRAINING EVERY YEAR, I GUESS. AND NO, I JUST NEED THE INITIAL TRAINING. SHE'S GONNA GO AHEAD AND DO THAT. SHE NEEDS THE INITIAL TRAINING. SHE'S GONNA DO THAT THIS YEAR, I THINK. YES. I'M GONNA DO IT NEXT WEEK OR SOMETHING NEXT WEEK. YEAH. WE, WE CAN PROBABLY, IF ANYTHING PROBABLY DON'T KNOW ENOUGH, I'LL TAKE IT OUT OF MY FINANCIAL SOFTWARE AND PASS IT OVER TO HELP PAY FOR IT. IF WE GO UP SOONER SHE'S TRAINED, THE BETTER OFF WE ARE. AND I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY ELSE THE ALL JUST NEEDS TO BE TRAINED OR NOT. I'M, YEAH. I, I'LL FIND OUT IF THERE'S ANYBODY ELSE THAT NEEDS IT AND THEY SIT IN WITH ME. YEAH. I'LL GET HER NAME FOR A MONTH. GOOD. I'M GLAD TO KNOW YOU HIRED, HIRE SOMEBODY TO GET YOU. EVERYBODY COMES TO YOUR OFFICE, RIGHT? FOR THE MOST PART. PRETTY MUCH EVERYBODY GOES TO YOUR OFFICE. SO OFFICE, YOU'RE ESSENTIALLY LOCATED HERE AND EVERYBODY COMES TO YOU FOR THE MOST PART. SO IT'S, BUT EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE YOU HAVE TO GO OUT TO THE COUNTY TO MAKE SOME ROUNDS. MM-HMM . AND AS FAR AS THE PERCENTAGE OF YOUR JOB, HOW MUCH IS THAT? MAYBE WHEN I GO TO THE, WHEN I GO OTHER PLACES. YEAH. I NEED TO GO MORE. I, I JUST, BECAUSE I'VE BEEN TRYING TO GET A HANDLE ON THIS AND I'M SHORT STAFFED TO EDUCATE OTHER DEPARTMENTS. I WOULD LIKE HR LIKE TO JUST, I WOULD LIKE, LIKE TO DO MORE OF THAT. I'D LIKE TO DO SOME TRAINING. I'D LIKE TO DO SOME, JUST SOME HR, UM, BENEFITS STUFF. JUST KIND OF LET PEOPLE KNOW, YOU KNOW, BE THERE IN CASE THEY HAVE QUESTIONS. WELL, YEAH. I MEAN YOU HAD A GOOD IDEA YESTERDAY ABOUT NOTIFYING OR LETTING EVERYBODY JUST FOR INFORMATION ALL THE BENEFITS THAT THEY DO HAVE. 'CAUSE THEIR SALARY IS NOT THAT GOOD. BUT WE HAVE GOOD BENEFITS OF RETIREMENT AND INSURANCE AND STUFF LIKE THAT. WE WANT THEM TO KNOW WHAT IT COSTS. YES. INFORMATION. BUT I JUST WAS CURIOUS ABOUT HOW MUCH TIME YOU ACTUALLY WENT RUNNING AROUND. YOU STAY IN OFFICE BECAUSE EVERY TIME I'VE DEALT WITH YOU, MOST OF THE TIME MY PEOPLE HAVE COME TO YOU. COME TO MY PEOPLE. SO THAT WAS JUST MY QUESTION. YEAH. AND I, THEY DIDN'T COME TO OUR POSITION. WE KEEP HERE FOR SHOTS AND DON'T INTERRUPT MY DAY AND I LOSE A LOT OF TIME IN PAST, SO SHE'S GONNA CUT. I'M, SHE'S GONNA WELL I MEAN CAN'T IN THE PREVIOUS YEAR IS WHAT HAPPENED. THEY DRAW EVERYBODY HERE FOR, I WANTED HER TO BE MORE MOBILE AND COME TO OUR PRECINCT WHEN WE NEEDED. YEAH. THERE'S ONE THING I KNOW HOW TO DO AS A BENEFIT ORIENTATION. SO I CAN COME TO Y'ALL WHEN WE DO OPEN ENROLLMENT AND I CAN DO YOUR OPEN ENROLLMENT IN YOUR PRECINCT RIGHT THERE WITH EVERYBODY. AND SO ALL THAT'S GOING CHANGE. WE'RE GONNA MAKE HER MORE MOBILE. SO THAT'S COOL. SINCE THE BARNS ARE ALL FAR. YOURS IS IT, YOURS IS REALLY CLOSE, BUT I MEAN, IT'S A LONG WAY. I TYPE A HALF A DAY SENDING MY EMPLOYEE OVER. THAT'S A LOT. AND IF YOU NEED ME TO, HERE'S, I MAKE ANOTHER OFFER. YEAH. IF YOU NEED ME TO, TO KEEP YOUR ROAD AND BRIDGE. GUYS ARE HERE FOR HAVING TO COME OVER ON MONDAY MORNING TO DO NEW HIRE PAPERWORK. I MEAN, I LIKE THE FACT THEY COME HERE BECAUSE I THINK IT'S PART OF THEIR ORIENTATION, BUT I REALIZE THAT, THAT Y'ALL ARE BIND TO HAVE TO SEND ANOTHER GUY WITH THEM. I'LL COME THERE. CAN WE START AT AT SIX IN THE MORNING? SO, WELL, I'LL GET UP EARLY. THEY DON'T. OKAY. WELL, I MEAN THAT WAS ALWAYS, BUT, BUT, AND, AND, AND I KNOW THAT SHE'S GONNA WORK WITH THIS PROSPECT, SO NO, THAT'S GONNA HAPPEN. SO YOU LET ME KNOW WHEN YOU'RE GONNA DO THAT. I'LL BE GLAD TO COME DO THAT. BUT ON THE OTHER HAND, YOU, I'VE NOTICED PEOPLE THAT'S WORKED FOR ROAD AND BRIDGE THAT'S NEVER BEEN UP HERE AND THEY COME UP HERE AND THEY'RE LOST AND THEY SAID, WELL WHO CAN HELP ME BECAUSE I NEED TO DO DIRECT DEPOSIT. WHO [01:35:01] CAN HELP ME? 'CAUSE I DIDN'T GET PAID ALL MY HOURS. YOU KNOW? AND THEN THEY START LEARNING SOME OF US WHO CAN HELP 'EM AND WHERE TO GO, WELL WE NEED HELP. WE ORIENTATED LIKE THAT. SUPERVISORS AND THE SECRETARIES NEED TO UNDERSTAND THE PROCESS AND THAT NEEDS TO BE PASSED ON TO THE, THERE'S NO DOUBT ANYBODY FROM COME OVER HERE AND TALK. NO, THEY DON'T USUALLY. UNLESS A PROBLEM THEY'LL CALL. YEAH. AND, AND, AND, BUT LIKE I SAID, I TO, TO STREAMLINE THE PROCESS AND TO HELP Y'ALL. 'CAUSE THAT TAKES TWO PEOPLE. WHEN YOU HAVE TO SEND SOMEBODY WITH THEM TO COME HERE, IT'S EASIER FOR ME TO COME TO YOU. SIMPLE AS THAT. OKAY. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK, WERE YOU ABLE TO GET IN TOUCH WITH THE JPS JOHN'S NEXT? WERE YOU ABLE TO GET IN TOUCH WITH A COUPLE OF THEM ARE ON THEIR WAY, BUT, UH, ONE OF 'EM SAID THAT SHE ABSOLUTELY CANNOT COME UNTIL HER DESIGNATED TIME TIMES 1120. YEAH. SO, ALRIGHT HERE , THANK YOU GUYS FOR BEING HERE. COPY OF WHAT YOU HAD SUBMITTED TO UPSIDE DOWN AND UH, SO YOU'RE NOT ASKING FOR MUCH CHANGE THE NEXT PAGE BEFORE ADDITIONAL PAGES. PUT 'EM IN ORDER OF AFFORDANCE TO OUR OFFICE. DANIEL AND I HAVE DISCUSSED, UM, I KNOW IN THE PAST THE COUNCIL'S OFFICES HAVE ASKED FOR ADDITIONAL OBJECTIVES AND I KNOW WE'RE GETTING TO THAT TIME WITH GROWTH OF THE COUNTY AND EVERYTHING. UH, BUT MOST OF THE TIME I'M, I ASK FOR SOMETHING, I'M ABOUT TWO YEARS BEHIND, BUT WE DISCUSSED IT AND WE'RE THINKING RIGHT NOW AT THIS TIME, THE CLERK'S POSITION WOULD BE MORE BENEFICIAL FOR KEEPING UP WITH ALL OF OUR STUFF. UM, WE GOT HERE WHILE BACK AND EVERYBODY'S KIND OF SCRAMBLING AROUND WONDERING WHAT'S GOING ON. WELL, BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE ANY KIND OF RECORD KEEPING. UM, I DO KNOW WE'RE GETTING, HOPEFULLY GETTING A SOFTWARE WITH SOUTHERN SOFTWARE. LIKE THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE HAS GOT, WE'VE ALREADY SPOKE WITH GEORGE AND UH, HE'S TAKING CARE OF THAT. BUT IT'S HAVING THE TIME TO DOWNLOAD, ENTER EVERYTHING, KEEP UP THEIR OFFICE STUFF. SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE WOULD A, IN THAT REGARD, WOULD A HALFTIME PERSON, UH, SUFFICE PART-TIME? WE DISCUSSED IT? UH, POSSIBLY. I THINK IT WOULD BE STILL LONG ON THE PLATE. UM, OR FULL-TIME. BUT I KNOW, YOU KNOW, TWO YEARS AGO I HAD THE 20,000 IN THERE FOR THE PART-TIME DEPUTY, BUT I DIDN'T WANNA SET MY BUDGET JUST SET THERE STAGNANT. SO, YOU KNOW. YES. THAT WOULD HELP. WHAT UH, AND I'M JUST ASKING HERE, AND I'M NOT TALKED WITH BOBBY OR ANYTHING WOULD BE, UH, PERSON THAT ASSISTS HIM AND THE MAINTENANCE DEPARTMENT AND I, HE SHOULD BE HERE TO HELP YOU TO DISCUSS THIS, BUT WOULD THAT PERSON BE ABLE, I KNOW SHE DOES A LOT OF EXTRA WITH THAT PERSON I HELP AS WELL. SHE'S RIGHT THERE PRETTY CLOSE FIVE. RIGHT. UM, I THINK IT'D PROBABLY KIND OF BE ALONG THE SAME LINES AS WE HAD TALKED ABOUT JP AND CONSTABLE SHARING, BUT THERE'S A LOT OF PRIVILEGED INFORMATION THERE THAT DOESN'T CROSS LINES THAT UH, I THINK IT'D BE BEST IF WE DID HAVE SOMETHING. IT'S, IT'S OUR OWN POSITION. OKAY. UH, I YOU OPENED THE DOOR FOR A PROBLEM TO ARISE. ANOTHER DEPARTMENT. BEST WAY THEY DESCRIBED IS KEEPING EXECUTIVE JUDICIAL SEPARATE. YEAH. JUST WOULDN'T BE, UH, I I DON'T THINK I'D FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH THIS. I MEAN I SEE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING BUT I JUST, SOME OF THE STUFF WE HAVE ON CASES AND WHATNOT, PLUS THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO HAVE TRAINING THAT THEY WOULDN'T HAVE A POSITION LIKE THAT. COMFORTABLE. YEAH. WHAT WOULD THIS SPECIFIC PIECE FOR A SPECIFIC FOR ME, BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW, WHAT WOULD THAT PERSON DO EVERY DAY I GAVE A LIST OF IT AND THERE'S GONNA BE MORE TO KEEP RECORDS FOR SIMPLE PROCESS, UH, RUNNING. WHO DOES THAT NOW? SO [01:40:01] IT'S NOT GETTING DONE WELL, WE HAVE TO DO IT. SO US SOMETIMES IT JUST DOESN'T, SOMETIMES IT DOESN'T, IT TAKES TIME FROM US BEING OUT DOING OUR JOB. WE'RE HERE TO SIT AT THE OFFICE SOME DAYS I SPEND A WHOLE DAY AT THE OFFICE. I DON'T EVEN GET ON DEGREE DOING PAPERWORK, SETTING UP OUR APPOINTMENTS FOR CIVIL AND CRIMINAL MATTERS. UH, IF WE GET CALLS ALL THE TIME THAT HEY, WE GOT A TRAFFIC ISSUE OUT HERE. OR SETTING UP MOVE OUTS. UH, THE RECORD KEEPING THERE IS SOME BORDER CROSSING BETWEEN THE JP AND THE CONSTABLE'S OFFICES, BUT IT'S PRETTY WELL DEFINED LINE. UH, KEEP HELPING US KEEP UP WITH ALL OUR TRAINING, UH, RACIAL PROFILING REPORTS, ASSISTING CRIMINAL CASE REPORTS WE DID WANT HERE ABOUT A MONTH AND A HALF AGO, WHICH IS THE REASON WHY WE BROUGHT IT TO GEORGE ON THE REPORT RATING SYSTEM. BUT FOR ONE DOPE CASE, IT TOOK US A DAY AND A HALF. I MEAN WE'RE JUST A NOTCH ABOVE CHICKEN STONE. MM-HMM . UH, BUT UH, AN ASSISTANT WITH THAT TO HELP. UM, OKAY, SO YOU, YOU, YOU'RE LOOKING DOWN HERE ON THE EXTRA HELP. YOU'VE GOT $10,000 I BELIEVE THAT WE BUDGETED THIS YEAR. WE TURN THAT BACK. WE TURNED THAT BACK IN TO HELP MARY JUDGE. OKAY. I REMEMBER THAT. OKAY. ALRIGHT. SO YOU'RE NOT ASKING FOR EXTRA HELP. NO, I MEAN AS FAR AS LIKE ANOTHER PARTTIME, YOU'RE ASKING FOR A PERSON THAT WOULD BE A, A CLERK. RIGHT. WE DON'T, WE DON'T MIND AN, OUR PLACE OVERLOADED. BUT THIS IS JUST STUFF THAT I'M AFRAID AT SOME POINT WE GROW UP IN THE COUNTY AND BECAUSE THE SERVICE AND EVERYTHING'S GOING BITE US IN THE TAIL MONDAY, YOU KNOW, THE DAYS OF SHE AND LARRY AND ALL THEM ARE KIND OF LONG GONE. IT IS. IT'S GROWING. BUT Y'ALL, IF Y'ALL GOT SOMEBODY TO TAKE CARE OF ALL THE PAPERWORK AND STUFF, Y'ALL WOULD BE OUT ON THE STREET IN COURT RESPONSIBILITY? YES. THAT'S YOUR PRIMARY RESPONSIBILITY. CAN YOU GIVE US MORE TIME OUTSIDE AND THEN YOU SERVE, YOU SERVE WHAT STATE WARRANTS OR WHATEVER? UH, WARRANTS, CIVIL PAPERS. UH, CALL TO SERVICE, TAKE CARE. OUR TRAFFIC ISSUES. 'CAUSE PEOPLE CALL US ALL THE TIME FOR THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE. THEY'RE FIRM DEAN AS IT'S, YEAH. SO THEY CALL US. HEY, WE'VE GOT PEOPLE FLYING UP DOWN THE ROAD HERE. DON'T RUN RADAR. YEAH. SO WE HAD TO TRY TO, OF COURSE SOME GET OUTTA READY BECAUSE IT GOT PEOPLE ABOVE. YOU GOTTA GET OUT THEIR PLACE, YOU KNOW, SO, BUT WE GOT STUFF WE HAVE TO TAKE CARE OF THERE, YOU KNOW, THAT WAS TWO MONTHS AGO. THE GUY WALKS IN DOING AUDIT. THAT'S A PRETTY SICK FEELING. HE JUST WALKS IN TRYING TO TO FIND ALL THE STUFF FOR HIM. YEAH. THEN THREE HOURS LATER YOU CAN FINALLY SWALLOW. HOW DID YOU COME UP WITH THE 30,000 SALARY FOR CLERK? UH, THAT'S BEEN JUST PRETTY MUCH WHAT I'M SEEING. THE STARTING PAY A LOT OF THE CLERK POSITIONS AND OTHER OFFICERS ARE THAT, UM, THAT'S, IT VARIES. IT VARIES. IT DEPENDS ON WHAT THE SKILLSET IS. YOU NEED REALLY CLERICAL, I MEAN, I MEAN 28 TO 32 FOR STARTING. OKAY. WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING SET STONE. OKAY. AND SOMEBODY IN THIS, THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO GO TO SOME OF TRAINING THAT WE GO TO AS WELL ON CIVIL PROCESS. YOU NEED THEM TO HAVE WORD SKILLS, EXCEL SKILLS, THINGS LIKE THAT TO START WITH. YOU'RE GONNA, YOU'RE LOOKING AT SOMEBODY WHO'S GONNA HAVE TO HAVE SOME, SOME BASIC COMPUTER SKILLS. IT MAY HAVE TO EVERYONE NOW THEY NEED BASIC. I KNOW, BUT YOU'D BE SURPRISED HOW MANY PEOPLE APPLY THAT DON'T HAVE IT FOR ADMIN JOB. THEY APPLY FOR ADMIN JOB. THEY DON'T HAVE IT. IS THIS 'CAUSE I'M YELLING AT YOU ABOUT NOT TURNING IN YOUR RECEIPT. NO, I TOLD YOU, IF YOU DON'T TURN IN A RECEIPT, LET ME KNOW. TAKE CARE OF, TELL US ABOUT THESE ICAL PAGES. SO THIS I UNDERSTAND BETTER NEW LAW THAT CAME ABOUT. THEY JUST SIGNED 42. AND WHAT IT'S SAYING, ANYBODY IN THE STATE OF TEXAS, WHETHER IT'S COUNTY, JP MUNICIPAL, IF THEY BAIL FOR COURT, THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO GO THROUGH A 40 HOUR MANDATED CLASS NOW TO BECOME A COURTROOM SECURITY SPECIALIST. SECURITY SPECIALIST. AND NOT ALL OFFICERS IN THE STATE WILL HAVE TO HAVE THAT BECAUSE AS THE COURT'S NOT ON THEIR PROTOCOL DAY TO DAY. SO I, THE OTHER CONSTABLES WE DISCUSSED IT, WE FEEL LIKE THAT'S AN EXTRA RESPONSIBILITY THAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO TAKE [01:45:01] ON. I KNOW SOME OF THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE WILL HAVE TO DO AS WELL FOR THE COURTHOUSE WHATNOT. BUT LIKE I SAY, NOT EVERYBODY'S GONNA HAVE TO HAVE IT. TRUST ME, I DON'T WANT TO HAVE TO GO THROUGH THIS. I HATE TO HAVE TO GO TO SCHOOL, BUT WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO DO IT. AND WE ALL FELT LIKE IT WAS KIND OF ALONG THE LINES OF THE MASTER AND INTERMEDIATE ADVANCED PEACE OFFICER'S LIFE AND THE CERTIFICATION PAY THAT WE'VE ALREADY HAD. ALRIGHT, SO BOTH OF YOU HAVE YOUR BASIC I HAVE MY MASTER'S. HE HAS HIS INTERMEDIATE. OKAY, SO YOU'VE GOT ALL THREE. YES SIR. AND YOU'VE GOT TWO. OKAY. AND, UH, THIS WOULD BE A FOURTH CERTIFICATE, BUT YOU ALREADY DO THE BAILIFF FOR THE COURT ALREADY. MM-HMM . AND YOU'RE GOING TO BE REQUIRED BY LAW TO DO IT. YOU CAN'T DO IT. RIGHT. WELL, THAT'S PART OF YOUR JOB. WE'RE JUST, I'M JUST, YOU KNOW, WE'RE JUST TRYING TO FIGURE AND FIGURE OUT TO DO IT THREE DAYS. OH, THE CLASS. YEAH. ONE IT'S 40 HOUR, FIRST ONE, EIGHT HOUR. WELL, THEY HAVEN'T, IT IS KIND OF VAGUE. WELL, I READ IT AND IT DIDN'T SAY ANYTHING ABOUT COMING BACK. YEAH. TO KEEP, YOU HAVE TO GO BACK FRIDAY, YOU HAVE TO GO, I THINK IT'S A FOUR HOUR, FOUR HOURS A YEAR. A REFRESHER. BUT NOW, I DON'T KNOW. THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT EIGHT AT ONE TIME. IT WAS EIGHT, UH, 16. I THINK THEY LOADED IT TO EIGHT 16. AND A MASTER OFFICER CERTIFICATE TAKES YOU HOW MANY HOURS OF INDICATION AND HOW MANY YEARS OF SERVICE? WELL, I GOT MINE 10 YEARS. 10 YEARS. IT TOOK YOU 10 YEARS OF SERVICE. AND HOW MANY, HOW MANY YEARS OF EDUCATION? HOURS OF EDUCATION. IT'S 24. I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE CUTOFF IS ON THAT. SO YOU'RE WANTING, YOU'RE WANTING US TO CLASSIFY THAT AS A MASTERPIECE OFFICER'S BACK OR GO TO ONE WEEK OF TRAINING AND NOT COME BACK FOR NO MORE TRAINING AND YOU ALREADY HAVE THE HOURS. WELL, WE GOTTA GO GET SOME MORE TRAINING. SEE, I JUST FEEL LIKE, YOU KNOW, AND I'M NOT TRYING TO BEAT JEFF ON THIS DEAL, BUT I JUST FEEL LIKE IF THE STATE DECIDES THAT THAT'S WHAT YOU NEED TO BE A CONSTABLE, THEN THAT'S WHAT YOU NEED TO WELL YOU GOTTA DO IT. IF YOU'RE A PEACE OFFICER THAT HAS BY COURT PROCEED. BUT YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE A MASTER PEACE OFFICER TO BE A, TO BE A A POLICE OFFICER. I'M JUST SAYING THE PROBLEM, THE PROBLEM THAT WE'RE GONNA BE FACED WITH IS IF WE SAY OKAY FOR THIS DEAL, THEN I KNOW WHAT SHERIFF'S PROBABLY GONNA DO. THEY GONNA RUN EVERY SHERIFF THROUGH THE COURTROOM. AND I UNDERSTAND THAT. I FULL WILL HUNDRED 44 MORE CERTIFICATES HAVE TO PASS OUT FOR ONE WEEK CLASS. NO, I, I DO UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. THAT'S PERSONALLY, I MEAN, I MEAN IT'S JUST, YOU KNOW, IF THEY THAT A REQUIREMENT, BUT THEY WANT YOU TO COME DO THIS CLASS, MAKE SURE THAT YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE DOING IN THE COURTROOM, THEN THAT IS WHAT IT IS WE'RE PAYING FOR THE SCHOOL. THIS IS PART OF THAT COURTHOUSE SECURITY BILL THAT THEY PASSED AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE IS IN THERE. I'VE KIND OF LOOKED AT IT, BUT I FIGURED WE'D GET AN UPDATE ON IT FOR THE SAME. SO, UH, I DIDN'T REALIZE IT HAD A FOURTH LEVEL CERTIFICATE. WELL, IT, IT, WE WERE LOOKING AT IT AS A SPECIALIZED DEAL THAT WE'RE HAVING TO GO THROUGH. OKAY. BECAUSE OF THE COURTROOM RESPONSIBILITIES THAT WE HAVE. OKAY. IT, IT IS NOT ON THE SAME AS THE MASTERPIECE OFFICER'S LICENSE AND ALL THAT. RIGHT. IT'S SEPARATE. IT'S SEPARATE. THAT'S AN ADDITIONAL YEAH. TRUST, LIKE I SAY, I WISH THEY HADN'T THROWN IT ON US, BUT IT'S, UM, IT SAYS IN HERE IT'S ONLY APPLIES TO, UM, PEACE OFFICERS IN AN APPELLATE COURT, DISTRICT COURT, STATUTORY COUNTY OR MUNICIPAL OR JUSTICE COURT. SO DOESN'T EVEN APPLY TO THE JP COURT. THAT'S JUSTICE COURT. JUSTICE COURT COURT. JUSTICE COURT, MUNICIPAL COURT. SO IF WE HAD, I GUESS IN A DISTRICT COURT, IF WE HAD SOMEBODY IN A DISTRICT COURT, WE WOULDN'T APPLY. RIGHT. IT IS DISTRICT COURT. I'M SORRY. SO BASICALLY EVERYBODY IN THAT COURTROOM WOULD HAVE, WE'D HAVE TO HAVE DESIGNATED PEOPLE. ISN'T THAT LIKE, UM, OUTLINED PRETTY MUCH AS A CONSTABLE CONSTABLE'S DUTIES IS OF THE COURT. THAT'S LIKE NOW THEY'RE SAYING YOU GOTTA BE WELL, BUT IN ORDER TO BE A CONSTABLE, DON'T YOU HAVE TO GO TO CIVIL IN? YEAH, BUT NOT EVERY, NOT EVERY LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER. RIGHT. YOU DID NOT HAVE TO GO TO CIVIL PROCESS. WE HAVE SECURITY OFFICER COURTHOUSE ONLY. IT WOULD BE THAT HARD TO SAY ONLY, I MEAN, SOME COUNCILS THAT DON'T SERVE THE CIVIL PAPERS SO THEY DON'T HAVE TO GO TO THE CIVIL PROCESS. HOW DO THEY DO THAT? THEY SEND THEIR DEPUTIES TO DO IT. NOW THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT HAS CERTIFICATE PAY TOO, BUT I'M, BUT IT'S, THAT'S WHAT I SAID. I SAID IF WE SAY THAT WE'RE GOING TO PAY [01:50:01] AN EXTRA 1200, $1,500 JUST TO GO TO SCHOOL THAT WE'RE PAYING FOR. YEAH. BUT IT IS NOT SOMETHING THAT ACTUALLY PAYS FOR, THERE'S A WAY OUTTA IT. THEN THEY'RE, THEY'RE ACTUALLY SENDING FUNDS WITH THAT BILL. THEY DON'T HAVE TO HAVE IT AS THEIR, IF UNDER ANYBODY WITH THEIR FIRST YEAR IN LAW ENFORCEMENT, ANYBODY IN THEIR FIRST YEAR. THE MONEY WE'RE TALKING ABOUT COMES FROM TEXAS COMMISSION ON LAW ENFORCEMENT. BUT IT'S NOT. IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THAT BILL. WE GET ABOUT $800 A YEAR FROM THE, FROM THE STATE. THEY'RE GOING PAY FOR IT. FOR OUR TRAINING. FOR TRAINING, TRAINING COUNTY. RIGHT. NOT, OKAY. WELL WE, UH, OBVIOUSLY, YOU KNOW, THIS SOMETHING KIND OF NEW FOR US, SO WE'RE NOT REALLY DOING ANYTHING MUCH ON SALARIES OR, OR, OR SUPPLEMENTS AT THIS POINT IN TIME. UH, AND I APPRECIATE YOU NOT, YOU KNOW, PUTTING THAT IN YOUR, THAT YOU FOLLOWED WHAT WE ASKED YOU TO DO. SO I APPRECIATE YOU DOING THAT . YOU DID. AT LEAST, AT LEAST YOU DIDN'T PUT IT ON THIS PAGE. RIGHT. AND SO, UH, UH, AND WE'RE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE STILL WAITING ON THE PROPERTY VALUES AND UH, WE KNOW WHY ALL THE, UH, STATE HAS DONE THROUGH US. UH, SO, YOU KNOW, AS FAR AS WHAT ADDITIONAL RESPONSIBILITIES AND ANOTHER BIG THING IS WE DON'T WANT OUR HEALTH INSURANCE COSTS. THAT IS A BIG DRIVER BUDGET. YOU KNOW, ABOUT 4 MILLION COME ON SATURDAY. THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT'S A, THAT'S A PRETTY BIG THING. SO, UH, YOU DID, UH, I BELIEVE TALK ABOUT, UH, OTHER THAN THE, UH, THE COURT SECURITY CERTIFICATION, YOU WANTED TO INCREASE YOUR, UH, MILES, UH, MILEAGE MILL LODGING FROM 600,000, I BELIEVE. YES, YOUR HONOR. I, OKAY. WHAT ABOUT YOUR, UH, YOUR GAS AND OIL? UH, OF COURSE YOU USED TO SPEND A LOT MORE MONEY, BUT GAS PRICES ARE DOWN. AND WHERE, WHERE ARE WE NOW THAT, UH, ON THE GAS AND OIL? UH, THIS WAS THROUGH 1 13 69. UH, AS OF MAY 405 CENTS. FOUR FIVE THAT, OH, I'M SORRY. I'M SORRY. I WAS WORKING ON A PERCENTAGE AND IT WAS KIND OF SCARY. NO, THAT THAT WASN'T CORRECT. I'M SORRY. I WAS LOOKING AT PERSONAL REPAIR. GAS AND OIL IS, UH, $2,268. 2,268. MM-HMM . MAYBE WE CAN CUT BACK THAT THOUSAND. WE GOT THREE MORE, THREE MORE MONTHS TO GO. UH, WHAT DID, WHAT DID YOU SAY IT DID? 2002 EIGHT. AND THAT INCLUDES JUNE, TWO HOURS SEPTEMBER. I THINK WE'RE PROBABLY, WE USUALLY HAVE ONE BILL THAT WE PAY IN OCTOBER THAT HAS TO BE PUT BACK IN SEPTEMBER. SO YOU GOT FOUR MONTHS LEFT OF ABOUT TWO, $300, DEPENDING, I DON'T DUNNO HOW MUCH MORE Y'ALL DO DURING THE SUMMER, BUT IN 2015, UH, SPENT 46, 84 20 16. ACTUALLY YOU SPENT 29 98 AND THEN WE ADOPTED THIS YEAR, 8,000. THAT'S WHERE IT'S, SO WHAT'S A REASONABLE NUMBER THAT YOU FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH THAT 4,500, MAYBE 5,000 GAS. MOVE IT TO FIVE. YEAH. OKAY. THE OTHER REQUEST IS EVERYBODY AROUND ON THOSE AS FAR AS THE MILL LODGING AND TRAINING AND CONFERENCE REPAIR. PARDON? PARTS REPAIR. YOU'RE LEAVING THE SAME AS WHAT'S THERE, WHAT NOW? REPAIR PARTS AND REPAIR. YEAH. BY THE WAY, WE'RE VEHICLE WISE, WHERE ARE YOU GUYS? 60,000. 50 ON THAT. WE'RE START PUTTING SOME WE STILL GOT AND IF SOMETHING THAT HAPPENED, FUEL DOES GO UP, YOU CAN ALWAYS REMOVE [01:55:01] MONEY FROM THAT TO, SO LET'S GO WITH 400 INCREASE ON THE OFFICE SUPPLIES AND THE, UH, LOWER THE GAS AND ALL THE 5,000. PROVE THE, UH, REQUEST FOR NOT, UH, MILEAGE MILL LOGIC TO ABOUT $400 TO A THOUSAND AND TRAINING EDUCATION CONFERENCE THOUSAND I THINK. I THINK SO. COURT QUESTION. DOES ALL GENTLEMEN TALK? NO, YOU CAN'T GET IT OUT. ALL OTHER ONE, ONE, JUST ONE, ONE OUT. WHO PAID FOR THE GRANT? PAID. GRANT PAID. SHE WAS THERE BEFORE THEY GOT GRANT SPECIFICALLY. IT'S FOR THAT ADMISSIONS GRANT. YEAH. OH, IT PAYS PARTTIME FOR THE THE DEPUTY AND FOR FOR THE SECRETARY. UH, I WHAT WE'RE LOOKING, WE'RE GOING ON POSITIONS, UH, AND WE, WE WON'T FORGET IT. WE'LL COME BACK AND TALK ABOUT IT, SEE WHAT WE CAN DO. BUT UH, KIND LIKE WE'RE DOING ON, UH, INCREASES IN SALARY RIGHT NOW, YOU KNOW, WE'RE TRYING TO JUST KIND OF WAIT, WAIT A BIT. DOESN'T MEAN YOU WON'T GET MEANS WE NEED TO CHECK AND SEE WHERE WE'RE ANOTHER MONTH. CAN WE, CAN WE GET AN, AN IDEA OF WHAT KIND OF SKILL SET YOU'RE LOOKING SO WE HAVE A REALISTIC IDEA OF WHAT THAT BUDGET WOULD REALLY LOOK LIKE? SO WE MAYBE HE CAN GET THAT TO YOU. COULD YOU TELL ME WHAT SKILLS YOU WANT THEM TO HAVE? MAYBE JUST, AND THAT WOULD GIVE US A BETTER IDEA OF WHAT HOUR WOULD NEED BE. YEAH. OKAY. ANYBODY ELSE? RASH? SEAN, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. APPRECIATE YOU GUYS COMING UP. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT. VERY JUDGE, YOU GO TO PAGE 14 OF 19 ON THIS SALARY SHEET. PAGE 14. YOU SEE THIS? ALL RIGHT. YOU SEE THIS TOTAL OF ALL GENERAL FUND, THE 27 MILLION 283 93 UHHUH. THAT'S 75.883% OF OUR BUDGET. THE, JUST SO YOU KNOW, AND THAT, DOES THAT INCLUDE, UH, HEALTH? THAT INCLUDES EVERYTHING IN THE GENERAL AND I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT'S, AND I KNOW YESTERDAY YOU SAID SOME WERE DOWN 60%. UH, I MEAN TO ME THAT'S, WE ARE PERSONNEL TO PAY. THAT'S WHERE WE DO A LOT OF OUR SERVICE. YEAH. WHAT PERCENTAGE YOU SAY IT WAS 75.83? YEAH. 5.83. YEAH, JUST FOR THE GENERAL FUND. I DIDN'T FIGURE IT OFF. I JUST WANTED YOU TO KNOW WHERE I WAS GETTING THOSE NUMBERS BECAUSE I JUST RATTLED THEM OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD YESTERDAY. SO I WANTED TO VERIFY. OKAY. VERIFY. THAT'S WHAT I WAS DOING ON THE CALCULATING. ALRIGHTY. SO WE'RE NOW, I BELIEVE WE HAVE THE, UH, OUR ILLUSTRIOUS TOUR. JP, WE'RE WAITING ON JUDGE BAR. OKAY. SHE BE RIGHT HERE. OKAY, WELL, UH, GET STARTED. ARE Y'ALL, Y'ALL GO AHEAD AND START ON YOUR, GET BACK THROUGH AND UH, YEAH, I KNOW A LOT OF THIS HAS TO DO WITH SALARY. THIS IS KIND OF A WIN AND IF TYPE DEAL THAT, YOU KNOW, OUR SALARY AND THE GIRL WILL BE CONSIDERED OUR MAIN POSITION BE CONSIDERED. UM, I HAVE THREE CLERK BESIDES THE MAIN CLERK THAT ARE ALL OVER THE PLACE IN SALARY. ONE'S 29, ONE'S 33, THE OTHER ONE'S WAY OVER EVERYTHING BECAUSE HER YEARS OF SERVICE. SO SHE'S NOT INCLUDED IN ON THIS. UM, AND THEN I HAVE ONE OF THE CLERKS THAT ARE BILINGUAL. SO I WAS ASKING FOR, YOU KNOW, SOME MONEY FOR HER. UH, IT'S ON PAGE FOUR, [02:00:01] FOUR, THAT NAME YOU HAVE A TOTAL OF? UH, YES SIR. RIGHT? YES SIR. OKAY. AND SO MYSELF AND THREE CLERK WOULD BE CONSIDERED ON THIS BUDGET. AND YOU PROBABLY JUST HEARD THE DISCUSSION WE HAD A LITTLE BIT ABOUT, ABOUT WE'RE REALLY NOT LOOKING AT SALARIES AT THIS POINT. I MEAN, WE'RE TAKING INTO, WE'RE SAYING, BUT AS FAR AS WHAT WE'RE DOING THIS FIRST GO AROUND, WE'RE NOT GONNA MAKE DECISION. SURE. UM, THE SECOND ITEM THERE, AND I THINK ALL OF US, WE, WE HAD TALKED, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE WAS ANY CONFUSION LAST YEAR. I DON'T KNOW IF WE GOT PUT IN THE RIGHT SPOT OR, OR WHAT WE WANTED, BUT, UH, IT SAYS REQUESTED IN 2,800 TO BE ADDED TO THE SALARY. THAT KIND OF STEMS FROM LAST YEAR WHEN WE WERE TRYING TO GET SOME OF THAT TRAVEL INTO OUR SALARY. SO I THINK WHAT WE RAN INTO, IF I REMEMBER THE SALARIES HAS ALREADY BEEN PUBLISHED. WAS THAT WHAT IT WAS? AND WE COULDN'T GO BACK WITHOUT YEAH, I THINK I LOOK AT THIS YEAR. SO WHAT'S THE ADVANTAGE OF PUTTING, UH, WHERE IS THAT ON HERE? IS IT IT'S NOT ON HERE NOW. THE 2000 THAT YOU WERE ASKING FOR. WELL, IT WOULD BE TAKEN OUT OF, UM, OVER HERE. THE CAR ALLOWANCE? YEAH. IT'D BE TAKEN OUT THE CAR ALLOWANCE BECAUSE HE WON LIKE $2,800. WHAT'S ADVANTAGE OF WELL, I THINK THE ADVANTAGE OF IT IS FOR US BECAUSE OF IF IT'S IN OUR SALARY VERSUS THAT THE ADVANTAGE WOULD BE THE RETIREMENT. THE ONLY CHANGE WOULD BE LONGEVITY. IT WOULD AFFECT, IT WOULD AFFECT OUR LONGEVITY. YOUR RETIREMENT AND SOCIAL SECURITY IS ALREADY WITHHELD FROM THAT. SO IT WOULDN'T BE BE LONGEVITY. YOU LATE? I CAN, NO, I'M EARLY. OKAY. AND, UH, Y'ALL ARE ALL HERE. WELL, NO, WE'RE NOT. SHE CAN'T COME RIGHT NOW. TABLE. SO BASICALLY WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT IS TAKING 2,800, MOVING IT UP TO THE SALARY PART, IT SHOULD INCREASE THE SALARY TO UH, 60,060. AND THEN YOU'RE ALSO ASKING FOR A RAISE TO BRING IT UP THROUGH 62,000. IS THAT RIGHT? YES. OKAY. NOW COURT ALLOWANCE COUNTS AS INCOME, RIGHT? YEAH. YES. YES. WE JUST DON'T PAY MANAGE WOULD BANK BUDGET JUST FOR LIKE THE MATH? WHAT YOU MEAN I'M LOST? YOU DON'T PAY C-C-V-R-S ON IT. OKAY. BECAUSE IT'S NOT A RETIREMENT. SO IS IT'S JUST INCOME PUT ITSELF. SO IF YOU, WHAT YOU RETIRE TO MATCH FOR RETIREMENT, TAKE 10% OUT OR WHATEVER. IT'S LIKE I SAID, WE TRIED TO GET IT LAST YEAR, COMMISSIONER, WE JUST RAN OUT TIME, UH, LAST YEAR I THINK I WAS IN, EVERYONE WAS IN AGREEMENT WE COULD DO THIS, KAREN, ABOUT THIS ISSUE AND IT STRICTLY UP TO YES, THIS STRICTLY IN RETIREMENT. OKAY, WELL WE NEED TO CORRECT HIM. LEMME JUST, KAREN SAYS IT'S ALL SUBJECTED TO T-C-D-R-S AND MEDICARE. THE WAY WE CALCULATED IT IS SUBJECT TO FEDERAL WITH TAX. YES. MEDICARE, BICA AND T-C-D-R-S. OKAY. YOUR AND YOUR LONGEVITY INCREASE. YEAH. SO IT COST US TOTAL FOR THEM TO GET 2,800 OUTTA THE, IT'D BE $2,800 YOU EVERY FIVE YEARS. YEAH, IT IS. AND WE INCREASE THE LONGEVITY. WE'RE JUST GONNA INCREASE ANYTHING ELSE. I THINK IT, I THINK IT DOES BECAUSE IT GOES TO TAKE THE 2,001, I THINK THE YES YOU MIND [02:05:01] TALKING ABOUT THAT. I HAVE HAND THIS, THESE ARE BASED ON, THESE ARE OCA REPORTS FOR APRIL OF 26 TO APRIL OF 27. AND LOOK AT THAT. THEY BE STAGGERED TO SEE HOW MUCH ACTIVITY WE HAVE BASED ON SOME OF THE OTHER, UM, THAT'S COUNT, THAT'S STATEWIDE. THAT'S EVERY COUNTY FOR, UH, A YEAR PERIOD. AND IF YOU'LL FLIP BACK TO COFFMAN COUNTY AND THEN LOOK AT SOME OF THE OTHER, UH, I THINK YOU'LL BE, UH, A LITTLE SHOCKED AT WHAT THE NUMBERS ARE. I'M SHOCKED. HOW SMALL? WELL, I'M SORRY. I, THAT'S WHY I HAVE THESE. BORROW ME. YOU NEED A MAGNIFYING GLASS. WE EACH ALSO HAVE, DID YOU BRING YOUR ACTIVITY REPORTS FOR THIS REPORT? NO, I DIDN'T FOR THE LAST YEAR. OKAY. I, YOU'RE IN DETENTION TODAY. JUDGE ADAMS AND I EACH HAVE OUR LAST YEAR ACTIVITY REPORTS FOR OUR COURTS ALONE, WHICH ALSO INCLUDES OUR JAIL MAGISTRATION, UH, THE NUMBER OF THOSE, UH, THAT, THAT WE HAVE TO DO. AND THEN OUR CLERKS HAVE TO ENTER INTO ODYSSEY. UM, ALL OF OUR A AND B WARRANTS, ALL OF OUR FELONY WARRANTS AND OUR CLASS C WARRANTS FOR EACH MONTH. THOSE THREE, I DID NOT HAVE TIME TO COPIES PROCESS. THEY'RE AVAILABLE FOR INSPECTION AND COPYING AT YOUR OWN EXPENSE. DID YOU, SO BASICALLY, UH, WHAT, WHAT, MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND. YOU'RE ASKING TO MOVE 20 TRAVEL TO YOUR SALARY AND THEN AN ADDITIONAL $2,800? THAT'S NOT MY BUDGET. IT'S NO. OKAY. IS THAT MAC, IS THAT WHERE YOU'RE THAT WAS THE, IT WAS AN ADDITIONAL, UH, 5,000 MM-HMM. REQUESTING RAISED AT 62 2 7. IF YOU'RE AT 57, 2 76 AND YOU MOVED THE 2,800, THAT'S GONNA MAKE IT 60 0 76. MM-HMM . ALL RIGHT. AND IF HE'S ASKING FOR 62 2 76, THEN YOU'RE ONLY GIVING HIM, UH, ANOTHER 2200 RAISE. IT'S, IT'S, IT'S NOT 2,800. IT'S NOT ADDITIONAL. IT'S 4,000 OR FOUR. AND SO, BUT YOU'RE NOT ALL TOGETHER ON WHAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR? NO, SIR. UH, HE, UH, JUDGE SENT HIS END BEFORE WE REALLY COULD TALK ABOUT THAT AND NOT PUT THAT IN OUR JUDGE BARGAINS. I DUNNO IF THAT OR NOT. OKAY. UH, LET ASK AGAIN, WE'RE NOT GONNA MAKE ANY DECISIONS TO STAY ON SALARY AND ADDITIONAL PERSONNEL, EVEN THOUGH WE ARE, YOU KNOW, MAKING NOTES OF IT. WE'LL BE COMING BACK VISITING YOU, UH, ON THE, UH, YOU GET A SUPPLEMENT, I BELIEVE, UH, FOR EVERY, DOESN'T EVERYBODY GET A SUPPLEMENT NOW? WE ALL DO AND I DON'T KNOW WHY WE DON'T THROW THAT ALL THE SAME. THEY COULD BECAUSE WE EACH DID THE SAME AMOUNT. WHAT WERE THOSE SUPPLEMENTS FOR? I KNOW THEY, MINE'S BEEN THE STATE HOSPITAL. YEAH, FOR ADDITIONAL HIS ARE SANITATION. OKAY. MINOR ENVIRONMENTAL. AND JUDGE, UH, ASHCROFT DOES THE ADMINISTRATIVE HEARINGS AND SHE MENTS IN COURT. OKAY. HOW MUCH IS THAT SIX IS IT FOR YOU THAT, AS FAR AS RETIREMENT, HOW DOES IT TREAT YOU IF EVERYTHING'S HELD OUT FOR RETIREMENT? I HAVE A STUPID QUESTION. THIS HAPPENED BEFORE WE GOT HERE. HOW EVERYONE SEEMS LIKE SUPPLEMENTS OF 6,000. HOW DID WE GET HOME ON THAT NUMBER? ? I DON'T KNOW. OKAY. SO THIS, IT WAS LIKE THAT 20 YEARS AGO. WELL, REALLY, [02:10:01] UH, JUST, I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW WHERE IT CAME FROM. IT STARTED WITH JUDGE BATES, WHO WAS MY, UH, BEFORE ME, UH, BACK IN 2000 AND WILLIAMS. AND, UH, HE DID TRUSS OR JUVENILE CASES. AND SO THE DA DO IT NOW, HE DID ALL THE TRUANCY CASES AND THEN THE DA TOOK THAT OVER AND IT WAS, UH, THEY CAME TO ME TO SEE IF I WOULD DO ALL THE SANITATION HEARINGS FOR CALL FROM COUNTY. AND THAT FIGURE JUST POPPED UP AND IT'S BEEN LIKE THAT EVER SINCE. JUDGE WILLIAMS IN TER WAS THERE 20 YEARS AND PROBABLY ABOUT HIS, I DON'T KNOW, UH, FIFTH YEAR OUT OF 20 IS WHEN THAT TOOK EFFECT. IT IS ALWAYS BEEN, IT'S ALWAYS BEEN $6,000. I JUST WONDER. SO I DON'T KNOW. I THINK IT WAS TWO YEARS AGO WE AGREED TO GIVE IT TO THE OTHER TWO JPS. SO THEY WERE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE. RIGHT. THEY JUST SAID THEY'D WORK IT OUT AND DIVIDE IT UP AMONGST THEIRSELVES. THAT, THAT'S KIND OF WHAT WE CAME UP WITH. BECAUSE Y'ALL WERE ONE PERSON WAS DOING YEAH. DOING IT ALL. OKAY. UM, OR SOMETHING. I, I DON'T REMEMBER WHAT THE DEAL WAS, BUT SHE SAID IT'D ALL WORK IT OUT. YEAH. SPLIT UP. WE SPLIT AND IT SPLIT IT ALL UP. SPLIT. WE SPLIT THE CATEGORIES UP. THAT'S WHERE THAT CAME FROM. BOB, ABOUT, I KNOW THAT PART. I JUST WANTED ADD 6,000 HOME IN THERE. EVERYTHING THAT, WELL, IT DEPARTMENT, IT'S NOT, RESPONSIBILITIES ARE MORE DETAILED THAN OTHERS, BUT YET THEY ALL GET THE SAME PAY, I THINK. DOESN'T MAKE SENSE. I THINK WHEN THEY GAVE THEM THAT IT WAS A, A STIPEND, WHATEVER YOU WANT CALL IT AT $500 A MONTH TO TAKE ON THE EXTRA DUTIES. OKAY. I THINK THAT'S EXACTLY WHERE IT CAME FROM. SOMEBODY JUST SAID, OH, $500, 12 6,000. JUST GIVE, IT SOUNDS CHEAPER WHEN YOU SAY IT BY THE MONTH. , I'M SURPRIS. THEY DIDN'T DO FOUR. NINE, NINE. WELL, COMMISSIONER, I WILL TELL YOU THIS. UH, I DO THE SANITATION HEARINGS AND MY JOB, IT'S A LOT TOUGHER THAN THE OTHER THREE. ALRIGHT. GLAD SOMEBODY STEPPED UP TO PLATE. I ON THE HARDEST PART. IT'S CALLED POO. COREY, WHAT DO YOU THINK? I'M BEEPING. I'LL MATCH MY MAGISTRATE AT THE JAIL TO BOTH OF Y WELL NOW LISTEN, I NEED TO STOP IT BECAUSE I HAVE TO SMELL IT WHEN IT COMES IN. YES, YOU DO. AND THESE CRAZY SOCKS, YOU KIND DO A BUDGET HEARING THOSE LOOK LIKE NICE IN SOCKS. I LOVE THEM. ALRIGHT, LET'S GO TO THE NEXT PAGE. AND UH, I YOU'RE ASKING FOR 20 MIKE. THAT'S WHAT WE'VE ALWAYS HAD. UH, SO WHAT THE LAST, THE SECOND PAGE PHONE. OKAY, THAT'S A QUESTION I HAVE FOR YOU. THOSE, THOSE RIGHT THERE. THAT'S WHAT WE'VE ALWAYS, I GUESS OUT OF THE TECHNOLOGY FUND EACH YEAR IT'S ALWAYS BEEN THE SAME $3,000 YET Y'ALL ARE PAYING FOR OUTTA THE GENERAL BUDGET WHEN WE HAVE A LINE ITEM OF $3,000. SO CAN WE PULL IT OUT AT 3000 WHAT YOU'RE SAYING YOU SHOULD BE. I I I MEAN IS THERE A REASON WHY THEY'RE NOT THAT YOU KNOW OF KAREN? UH, JUST PROBABLY BECAUSE SOMEBODY IN PAYROLL DID THE MAINTENANCE WRONG ON IT. BUT LET ME CHECK REAL QUICK THAT NOT SAYING HER, I'M NOT SAYING THAT. DON'T THINK THAT I'VE WONDERED THAT BECAUSE WE HAVE A LINE ITEM THAT COMES OUT OF THE TECHNOLOGY FUNDS BECAUSE WE'RE ABLE TO DO THAT UNDER THAT STATUTE. SO THAT WOULD BE MEAN. IT'S NOT A WHOLE LOT, BUT AT THIS DOWN ABOVE PERSON, THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. TIME SCORE IS GLOBAL 3,600 THAT COULD COME OUT EACH YEAR OF TECHNOLOGY FUND RATHER THAN GENERAL. WE, WE LIKE FOR YOURS, JUDGE BARDEN, WE CHARGE YOUR BUDGET. LIKE, LEMME THIS SO I CAN SEE IT. IT'S LIKE $44 AND 98 CENTS A MONTH AND IT'S UH, FROM AT T. SO IT'D BE FOR PROBABLY THE WIRE CORE. IT'S PROBABLY CODED. LEMME SEE. YEAH. MINES UP BEING A $66 AND 15 CENTS LIKE WIRELESS, [02:15:01] UH, NUMBER FOR UM, JUDGE SMITH. THE DIFFERENT ONES, THE HOTSPOTS AND THINGS FOR THE DAS BROKEN DOWN THE FULL BILL'S LIKE $1,800. OKAY. AND THEN CERTAIN PARTS OF THE AIR CARD THAT BELONGS TO YOUR DEPARTMENT ARE PUT IN YOUR LINE ITEM AND THEN MIKE'S OR OUR WIRELESS AT OUR OFFICE. HOT SPOTS. JUDGE WOULD I, I THINK THAT THIS AUTOMATICALLY REQUESTED. I DIDN'T, THAT'S NOT ANYTHING ON WHAT IT'S, WHAT IT'S GOING BE. I I DIDN'T PUT THAT IN AND IT'S OUT THE TECHNOLOGY, IT ADDED THE TECHNOLOGY. BUT IF WE CAN CHARGE THAT TO THE PHONE OR WHATEVER. OKAY. ACTUALLY I THOUGHT THAT WOULD BE, I SO WERE Y'ALL TALKING ABOUT HAVING A CELL PHONE ALLOWANCE BANK COME OUT OF THAT? OR WERE Y'ALL TALKING ABOUT THE ACTUAL CARE CARD? WELL, THE, THE, UH, THE $3,000 THAT WE'VE ALWAYS HAD EVERY YEAR. MM-HMM . IT, IT IS, I THINK IT'S ON ON YOUR SHEET CELL PHONE. YEAH. AIR CARDS, THAT KIND OF THING. BUT I THINK, BUT I'VE NOTICED THAT MINE'S NEVER, IT'S NOT GOING DOWN. YOUR CELL PHONE IS PUT IN THE GENERAL FUND. RIGHT? THIS IS FOR THE DIFFERENT AIR CARDS AND THINGS THAT Y'ALL DO FOR JP. I MEAN YOUR CONS ALSO MM-HMM . UH, THOSE NUMBERS FALL ON ME BECAUSE I'VE JUST MADE UP THOSE NUMBERS TO GIVE YOU MONEY IN DIFFERENT LINE ITEMS TO SPEND AS YOU NEED THE, THE TECHNOLOGY. YOU CAN PUT THAT ON ME. BUT THEY COULD, BUT THEY COULD, COULD THEY, THEY COULD BE PAID OUT OF THAT RATHER THAN GENERAL. YEAH. DO YOU HAVE ANY AIR CARDS IN MOBILE PHONES? WELL, I HAVE MY MOBILE PHONE. THEY TRIED REIMBURSEMENT FOR. RIGHT. AND THAT, BUT THAT'S WHAT YOU GET THE, THE CELL PHONE ALLOWANCE. CORRECT. OH, WE TOOK THAT OUT THEIR FUND. YOU, YOU'RE REIMBURSING THE MOBILE PHONE, DIDN'T IT? I KNOW. SO THAT, THAT'S WHY I WAS ASKING. IT'S NOT, YEAH, THAT'S WHY I'M ASKING Y'ALL EXPECTING THAT APPROVED. IT WAS APPROVED IN COURT TO ADD HER CELL PHONE. 'CAUSE EVERYBODY ELSE HAD ONE. THEN WE NEED IF WE CAN, TO SWITCH IT AND LET IT COME OUTTA THIS. WELL, BUT I THINK THAT, DOES YOURS COME OUTTA THAT PHONE? I HAVE THE, OUR PHONE ALLOWANCE HERE, BUT DOES IT COME OUT OF YOUR MONTHLY ON YOUR IS AIR CORE CARD USED YOUR AIR CARD IN FOR THE, THE LAPTOP? NONE OF THE CELL PHONE ALLOWANCES ACTUALLY COME OUT OF THAT TECHNOLOGY FUND. NO. WHEN WE, WE DECIDED TO DO THE CELL PHONE ALLOWANCE. EVERYBODY SAID PUT IT IN THE GENERAL FUND SO WE CAN LOOK AT IT AND KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THE CELL PHONES WOULD COST. SO IS THERE ANY REASON WE CAN'T MOVE IT TO THE TECHNOLOGY FUND FOR THE JP? NO, IT'S FINE. IT'S A PAYROLL CHANGE THING. OKAY. BUT IT WILL ALSO, I MEAN THE AUDITOR WILL HAVE TO MAKE THAT AS YOU'LL HAVE TO MAKE THAT CHANGE. SO IF WE CAN DO THAT AND THEY'RE OKAY WITH IT, I'D SAY LET'S DO THAT. SO WE'RE ACTUALLY JUST TAKING THE SELF ALLOWANCE AS A GENERAL FUND BUDGET AND PUTTING IN THERE TECHNOLOGY EVEN WHAT'S ALREADY IN THERE IN THE TECHNOLOGY FUND. YES. WHICH I THOUGHT BE HONEST BEING DONE, BUT YOU KNOW, IT'S BEEN A WHILE SINCE WE'RE TALKING. WELL THEN THE OTHER ISSUE COMES UP, JUDGE. WE HAVE ONE JP THAT WILL NOT GO GET THEIR OWN CELL PHONE. THEY SEND ME THEIR BILLS BECAUSE THE PREDECESSOR AUDITOR SET IT UP WHERE THEY REIMBURSE THEM TWICE A YEAR. SHE WINDS UP CHEATING HERSELF. I THOUGHT SHE SHE'S NOT STILL NOT DOING THAT. NO. WELL I THINK SHE, THE COURT SAYS MOVING IT TO THAT, WE MOVE IT TO THAT AND THEN THAT'S HOW SHE STOPPED. OKAY. I MEAN, JUST BECAUSE THE PRIOR AUDITOR SAYS THAT IT JUST BEING DONE THAT WAY DOESN'T MEAN WELL THE COURT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE IT. SO THE WAY THAT Y'ALL SET UP THE CELL PHONE POLICY IS THAT THEY HAVE TO COME TO COURT TO REQUEST THAT SHE'S BEEN TOLD THAT IT TO COURT TO REQUEST THAT. IT JUST DOESN'T MATTER. I OVERTIME. I OVERTIME, OKAY. I JUST, I MEAN THAT'S A YEAR LONG PROCESS. THAT'S JUST ONE OF THOSE THINGS NEEDS TO BE CLEANED. IS EVERYBODY IN AGREEMENT THEN THAT WE'RE GONNA MOVE THEIR CELL PHONES FROM THE GENERAL FUND TO THE TECHNOLOGY FUND? YES. OKAY. WE'RE NOT HOPING TO BE OKAY. THAT, THAT HELPS. SO THAT'S, THAT SAVES UP 3,600 HOURS OF BUDGET. ALRIGHT, LEMME TALK TO YOU ABOUT ANOTHER THING AND THAT'S THIS INQUEST TRAVEL. UH, WE DID THAT A FEW YEARS AGO AND WAS THE ONE THAT I THINK RECOMMENDED YOU DO IT BECAUSE ON WEEKENDS AND AT NIGHT DO TRAVEL TO, I KNOW OTHER PARTS OF THE WORLD YOU TRAVEL TO FROM MAYBANK TO PORT TREE OR WHATEVER, WHENEVER YOU'RE COVERING FOR EACH OTHER. SOME OF YOU TURN THAT IN, UH, SOME OF YOU DO NOT. UH, THERE'S ONE THAT TURNS IT IN PRETTY OFTEN. UH, AND SO [02:20:01] WHAT, WHAT'S YOUR FEELINGS ON THAT? I DON'T CARE ABOUT IT. AND THAT'S WHY I REALLY, MAYBE ONCE A YEAR I MIGHT. WEREN'T YOU JUST WORKING ON IT LAST WEEK FOR THE YEAR? YEAH. I FORGET TO DO THAT. LIKE FROM I GOING FROM OR I COUNTRY, IT IS TWO IN THE MORNING. I JUST FORGET ABOUT IT. WELL, IT'S IN YOUR PRECINCT. YEAH. COURSE THEY WOULD BE. I THOUGHT ABOUT THAT GOING FROM YEAH, I, YOU KNOW, IT'S WHEN I THINK ABOUT IT AND I HADN'T DONE THAT IN A LONG TIME. YEAH. SO AM I THE ONLY ONE THAT DOES IT? YES, YOU ARE. WELL, THERE'S ANOTHER ONE. HEY, WE DO, WE DO HAVE AN ISSUE SINCE THAT CELL PHONE ALLOWANCE IS TAXABLE, THAT MEANS WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO SET UP FOR PAYROLL. WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO SET UP FOR P-C-B-R-S AND SOCIAL SECURITY IN THAT SEPARATE FUND. IN THAT SEPARATE FUND TO DO ALL THAT. I THINK THAT'S FINE BECAUSE THEY, WE USUALLY USE THAT EXCESS IN ESTIMATED BALANCE, WHICH MAKING DIFFICULT, KIND OF MAKING IT LIKE MAKING IT DIFFICULT. BUT WE'LL GET IT DONE. IT'S JUST A SETUP. WE KNOW. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.