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SET UP SOCIAL SECURITY RETIREMENT.
I'M STILL ON THIS REQUEST THROUGH THE JOHNNY, THROUGH THE, UH, MARK SPENT 80 24 CENTS OR REQUEST ON WHO THERE? ON JUDGE, UH, ADAMS. ONLY HIS INQUEST TRAVEL.
IT'S A WHAT TRIGGER THAT YOU SEE THERE IS JUST 50.
WE BUDGETED 1500 AND WE JUST UH, GOT IT UP TO 261.
YOU'RE AT JUDGE, YOU'RE AT, UH, $261.
SO, UH, MAX, I THINK WHAT, WHAT, WHAT ARE ALL THAT? SO MIKE SAID ZERO ZERO.
WHAT ALL OF THEM SPEND? DID ANYBODY ELSE SPEND ANY JUST THE TWO OF THEM? NO, THERE'S ALL FOUR OF 'EM.
I MEAN, THEY DON'T TURN IT IN.
I'M JUST ASKING WHAT TURNED IT IN.
I'M JUST CURIOUS TO TRY TO WALK THERE WHERE THEY'RE ONE AND THREE OR ZERO TWOS AT 1 96 AND I THINK SHE JUST SAID TWO.
I HONESTLY, LAST YEAR WAS THE FIRST YEAR THAT I TURNED ANYTHING IN AND I HAVE RECENTLY IN HER OFFICE, I IN HER OFFICE FROM OCTOBER TODAY.
BUT I JUST REALLY DON'T LIKE, BECAUSE LIKE I SAID, YOU COME BACK IN AT TWO O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING AND YOU GOT COURT OR YOU GOT JAIL THE NEXT DAY, YOU WANNA NOT WORRY ABOUT WRITING DOWN YOUR MILEAGE, YOU WANNA WORRY ABOUT GONNA SLEEP.
NOT, AND BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T USE IT AT CERTAIN TIMES, THERE WAS ONE PAPER RESIDENT PRECINCT THAT THEY ACTUALLY ASKED FOR SOME OF THAT MONEY TO BE TAKEN AND PUT ANOTHER PLACES.
I THINK THE PROBLEM WITH IT THEN, YOU KNOW, I THOUGHT WE, IF YOU GET A CAR LAMP, YOU'RE DRIVING IN THE COUNTY.
WELL, ONCE YOU LEAVE THE COUNTY, THE ISSUE WAS THOUGH, COMMISSIONER ONE OF THE JPS WAS NOT BEING SHIP PARK WAS SICK AND THE OTHER JPS WERE HAVING TO TRAVEL ALL OVER THE COUNTY HELPING COVER ALL OF THIS AND THAT PRECINCT TOO.
SO Y'ALL GAVE THEM SOME EXTRA MONEY BECAUSE OF THAT, JUST FOR THAT INQUEST.
BUT NOBODY THOUGHT WHEN THEY SET IT UP HOW HARD IT WAS GONNA BE ON THEM TO TRACK IT ACTUALLY.
SO IF WE LEAVE IT IN THERE, UH, I MEAN, HOW DO YOU TALK TO US? I DON'T CARE.
ALRIGHT JUDGE, I'D LIKE TO KEEP IT.
ALRIGHT JUDGE, HE TURNS IS I I SURE DO.
WHAT IF WE GOT IT BACK TO $500? YEAH.
THAT, THAT PROBABLY WILL COVER, YOU KNOW.
WELL, ALTHOUGH THE ONE THAT I DID FROM OCTOBER THROUGH, THROUGH I THINK $534 OR SOMETHING THAT YEAH, BUT YOU JUST SAID ELSE WE'RE NOT, THAT'S, YOU KNOW, THAT'S BECAUSE I COVERED MORE.
THAT'S ONE OF THOSE DEALS WHERE I COVERED MORE INQUEST BECAUSE I WAS 2 22.
LIKE, UM, JUDGE ADAMS, WE BUDGETED 1500 LAST YEAR.
WE WIND UP THROUGH THE YEAR PAYING YOU $753.
ABOUT SEVEN 50 THEN THAT DO IT.
NO, IT MAKES YOU LOOK GOOD BECAUSE THEY WERE ONLY GONNA GET 500 BECAUSE YOU DO YOUR JOB.
WE SEE YOUR OTHER REQUEST HERE AS FAR AS, UH, UH, UH, I THINK I, I'M GONNA JUDGE.
I NEED BACK TO JUDGE, UH, SMITH AND OF COURSE YOU'VE HEARD OUR LITTLE LONGER WELL, BUT I KNOW THAT YOU'RE NOT, WE CAN TALK TO ALL THREE OF YOU.
I KNOW THAT WE'RE NOT GONNA TALK ABOUT THAT ISSUE, BUT I, I WOULD LIKE, AND I INCLUDED, I IF YOU DID, I THINK YOU DID, I INCLUDED WITH MY PACKET, UH, GENERALLY WHAT OUR COURT CLERKS ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR.
AND THE ONLY THING I WOULD LIKE TO SAY TO THE FIVE OF THESE PIECES IS THAT
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OUR COURTS ARE A LITTLE BIT UNIQUE IN THAT WE, UH, THE, THE COURTS AT THE COURTHOUSE HAVE A COURT COORDINATOR AND THEN THEY USE THE DISTRICT CLERK'S OFFICE.THE COURT, THEY USE THE COUNTY CLERK'S OFFICE.
UM, OUR GIRLS TAKE MONEY EVERY DAY.
OUR GIRLS ANSWER THEM, BUT OUR PHONES, THEY FILL OUR QUESTIONS.
OUR GIRLS HAVE TO DO ALL OUR DOCKETING.
BUT SOME OTHER DEPARTMENTS HAVE SEVERAL GIRLS THAT ONE MIGHT FIGHT, DO THE FILING, ONE MIGHT DO THE DOCKETING ONE, YOU KNOW, THEY GOT, OUR GIRLS HAVE TO DO IT ALL.
AND I THINK THAT IF YOU REVIEW KIND OF WHAT THEIR ESSENTIAL DUTIES ARE, THEN YOU WILL SEE THAT, THAT THEY'RE RESPONSIBLE ON PLEA DAYS.
ALL THREE OF MY RULES HAVE TO, TO WORK TO DO A LOT OF LEGAL DOCUMENTS.
UH, LAST WEEK I HAD TWO LAWYERS IN COURT AND EITHER ONE OF 'EM BRING THE JUDGMENT.
SO WE HAD TO PREPARE OUR OWN JUDGMENTS WHEN THAT HAPPENS.
UM, PRO SE PEOPLE, WE HAVE TO PREPARE ALL THE JUDGMENTS FOR.
SO I, I'LL HOPE THAT YOU'LL LOOK AT THAT AND SEE THAT OUR RULES DO EVERYTHING THAT OTHER DEPARTMENTS HAVE, CERTAIN PEOPLE THAT DO CERTAIN THINGS.
AND THAT'S THE ONLY THING THAT I WANT TO BRING TO Y'ALL TODAY IS DO YOU THINK THAT WOULD BE THE SAME FOR OTHER COUNTIES? UH, IT'S, IT'S THE SAME FOR OTHER COUNTIES.
BECAUSE ONE THING THAT I'VE, I'VE TALKED TO LORI ABOUT THIS TOO, AND WE MENTIONED IT JUST THE OTHER DAY.
I THINK WE NEED TO DO SOME SERIOUS LOOKING AT SALARIES.
I I HAVE, I'VE ALREADY STARTED THAT PROCESS.
AND WE NEED TO GET SOME THINGS EQUALED OUT WITHIN THESE DEPARTMENTS.
UH, WELL, AND, AND LOOK AT WHAT OTHER COUNTIES ARE DOING.
WELL, AND ANOTHER THING THAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN, IN MY OPINION, IS THAT WE NEED TO LOOK AT THE JOB ANALYSIS AND KIND OF HAVE YOUR PEOPLE FILL OUT A JOB ANALYSIS AND COMPARE THAT WITH OTHER COUNTY'S JOBS AND THEN WE CAN KIND OF GET A BETTER IDEA.
BUT THEN YOU ALSO HAVE TO TAKE IN IT'S, IT'S WELL AND FINE TO SAY THAT I KNOW, BUT THAT'S WHY I PRINTED YOU GUYS THAT.
SO THAT YOU CAN SEE THE DIFFERENCE.
'CAUSE IT'S HARD TO COMPARE COUNTY TO COUNTY IS THIS, YOU HAD TWO DIFFERENT PEOPLE PREPARE THEIR OWN.
LET WELL WE HAVE A CHIEF CLERK, WHICH REGINA AND LEONA AND I THINK YOURS IS
SO THERE ARE, THEY HAVE DIFFERENT RESPONSIBILITIES.
NO, THOSE DO ALL, THEY ALL HAVE A SET SALARY.
IT'S JUST THAT ONE OF US, THE THE COURT COORDINATORS.
I MEAN THE COURT TWO CLERKS AND CLERKS, WHATEVER YOU WANNA CALL THEM.
I THINK IT WAS LAST YEAR OR THE YEAR BEFORE.
I, BECAUSE THEY ALL, YOU KNOW, THE OTHER THING IS THAT WE'VE GOT CLERKS IN AND, AND THERE SHE IS THERE, SHE'S, UM, WE, WE ALSO SAT DOWN AND I, AND I CALLED SURROUNDING COUNTIES AND I CALLED COUNTIES THAT ARE EQUAL.
AND WE HAD A MEETING IN ROCK WALL, UM, IN APRIL.
AND THE THREE OF US WERE AT IN AND WE TALKED TO DIFFERENT JPS, UM, FROM, FROM AROUND HERE.
AND BECAUSE YOU SAID THAT ONCE THEY WERE TO COME TO ROCKWELL TO KIND OF GET AN IDEA OF WHAT YOUR CLERKS WERE PAYING, HOW THEY HAD THAT KIND OF THING.
UM, BUT IF WE SEEM TO HAVE A HEAVIER, I HATE THAT WE HAVE A HEAVIER CASELOAD THAN WHAT SOME OF THE SURROUNDING COUNTIES HAVE.
SO IT, IT'S VERY WELL AND GOOD TO SAY, OH WELL THIS COUNTY, LIKE NOBODY CAN COMPARE ANYTHING TO VANETTE COUNTY.
YOU CAN'T EVEN COMPARE YOUR ROADS TO VANETTE COUNTY.
SO IT'S HARD TO, TO DO JUST THE CONTIGUOUS COUNTIES AND, AND SEE, BUT THAT'S WHY I PRINTED THAT FOR Y'ALL BECAUSE I WANTED Y'ALL TO SEE WHAT THE OFFICE OF COURT ADMINISTRATION SHOWS FOR EVERY, CUMULATIVELY FOR EVERY COUNTY IN THE STATE.
UM, WHAT ABOUT THE, THIS LAW THAT WAS GOING TO RAISE THE CIVIL OKAY.
THAT THEY DID NOT, I HAVE, I ACTUALLY, I HAVE LUNCH WITH LANCE TOMORROW.
I DON'T THINK THAT THAT'S GONNA COME BACK ON THIS SPECIAL SUIT.
SO THE FIRST, WELL, IT NEVER, IT, IT'S NOT THAT IT DIDN'T PASS, IT GOT SENT TO JUDICIAL REVIEW AND THEN THEY RAN OUT OF TIME WITH, GOT BACK IN.
SO THAT WOULD INCREASE NUMBER OF CASES.
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THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN FILED IN COUNTY COURT, ANYTHING 20,000 AND UNDER WOULD NEVER GO TO COUNTY COURT.THEY WOULD ALWAYS CHECK IF WE MOVED DOWN FASTER.
THAT WAS YOUR BIG NUMBER RIGHT? THERE WAS ATIONS.
I MEAN WE, I HAVE A LOT OF, I, UM, TWO OTHER NAMES.
THERE ACTUALLY WAS ANOTHER LAW TOO, OR IT WAS DISCUSSED THAT IT NOT GO TO 20, THAT THEY GO TO 15.
AND I DON'T KNOW WHERE THAT WENT BECAUSE OVERNIGHT, IF THAT WENT TO 20,000, YOU'RE ALMOST GONNA HAVE TO INCREASE YOUR STAFF.
I MEAN THAT, THAT'S JUST A CRAZY NUMBER OF CASES THAT WE ALREADY DO.
SO HAVE MORE LAWYERS FILING CASES IN OUR COURT.
YEAH, I THAT, UM, BUT I'M LIKE HER, YOU HADN'T HEARD MUCH ABOUT IT.
I DON'T THINK IT PASSED, BUT IT COULD, I MEAN, THERE COULD BE SOMETHING I I DON KNOW THAT IT'S GONNA BE ON TOO.
THAT DOESN'T MEAN ANOTHER THING THAT WE'RE, WE'RE OUT THERE HANGING ON TOO IS, UH, WE'RE GONNA BE ABLE TO, UH, SIGN BLOOD WARRANTS OR NOT.
UM, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THEY GO TO OTHER JUDGES EVERY NOW AND THEN ABOUT.
BUT, UM, AND THAT'S STILL KIND OF OUT THERE.
I'D LIKE TO ADD THIS AND I'LL KIND OF BE THROUGH ON THE SALARY PART.
'CAUSE I KNOW THAT THE LATER DECISION, THIS IS MY 11TH YEAR, SALARIES HAVE BEEN ALL OVER THE PLACE FOR 11 YEARS.
AND THAT'S JUST HOW IT'S BEEN.
YOU, YOU COULD HAVE HAD THE SAME PERSON IN JOHNNY'S OFFICE, UM, THAT I HAVE IN MY OFFICE AND THE SALARY BE OFF $5,000 AND THEN A CLERK FROM THE DA'S OFFICE BE DOING THE SAME THING AND MAKING $10,000 MORE.
AND WE'VE ASKED AND WE'VE ASKED, AND IT'S NOT, NOT, NOT THIS COURT, PREVIOUS COURT THAT IF WE JUST GET THAT STRAIGHT.
I'VE GOT A GIRL AT 29 AND I GOT ANOTHER ONE AT 33 AND THEIR JOBS ARE ABOUT THE SAME.
MY MY HEAD CLERK, YOU KNOW, WE ASKED TO BE MOVED UP TO WHERE THE OTHER COURT COORDINATORS ARE.
UM, I'LL BE ALMOST SUPPOSED TO PASS.
LAST YEAR THEY GOT THOSE PEOPLE UP TO 47,000.
BUT MY GIRL DIDN'T, MY GIRL GOT HER EXEMPTION TAKEN AWAY AND OUR COURT CLERKS, IT WAS NOT A BILL.
THEY, THEY HAVE A CLERK THAT DOES THE SAME THING AND THEY'RE, THEY'RE NOT AT THAT MONEY AND THERE'S NOT A SALARY SCALE.
AND THE PROBLEM HAS BEEN WHEN THEY DO GET A RAISE AND TRY TO CATCH UP, THAT OTHER DEPARTMENTS WILL GET A RAISE THAT SAME YEAR.
AND, AND I THINK ONE OF THE REASONS I HAD PUT IN MY BUDGET AND THEN WE HAD TALKED ABOUT A SALARY FOR US.
WE JUST HADN'T ASKED FOR, UH, A RAISE FOR US.
I DON'T KNOW HOW LONG IT'S BEEN.
AND WE, OUR WORKLOAD IS, IS IT'S JUST CRAZY.
I MEAN, MORE LAWS HAVE PASSED EACH YEAR THAT REQUIRE US TO DO MORE.
AND NOT THAT IT'S ALL ABOUT THE MONEY, BUT UM, YOU KNOW, WE WANT TO FILL SOME VALUE EVERY NOW AND THEN.
AND SO WE FEEL LIKE WE HAVE TO FIGHT FOR OURSELVES.
AND SO, YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHY WE PUT A SALARY RANGE ON THESE CLERKS.
YOU KNOW, IF IF Y'ALL LOOKING AT OTHER BUDGETS AND OTHER REQUESTS AND THEY'RE ASKING FOR THE SAME AMOUNT, WE JUST WANT 'EM TO GET SOMETHING.
OUR BILINGUAL GIRLS NEED SOMETHING EXTRA.
NOW I TRY NOT TO USE THAT LANGUAGE LINE BECAUSE HALF THE TIME IT DOESN'T WORK ANYWAY.
THE JAIL, HALF THE TIME AT THE JAIL, YOU GET STUCK ON HOLD AND WE'RE PAYING WHAT, $2 A MINUTE? $3 A MINUTE.
SO THEN I HAVE TO CALL MY OFFICE.
I NOW HAVE TWO HISPANIC BECAUSE WE HAVE A LARGE HISPANIC POPULATION.
AND SO IN FACT, THE KAMAN MUNICIPAL COURT HAS TO BORROW ONE OF MINE FROM TIME TO TIME OVER BILL.
UM, I'VE GOT TWO NOW BECAUSE THAT WAY ONES OUT.
BUT I CALLED MY OFFICE FROM JAIL AND WELL, WE'VE HEARD THESE SAME REQUESTS, UH, FROM OTHER DEPARTMENTS, UH, UH, DISTRICT FIRST, UH, COUNTY CLERK AND THE, UH, TAX OFFICE ABOUT ITY, UH, AND THE CLERKS.
AND AGAIN, IT'S HARD TO MAKE DECISIONS SO WE KNOW EXACTLY WHERE WE'RE ON THE MONEY.
BUT YOU PRESENTED YOUR CASE AND I THINK EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS THAT.
WELL, WHILE WE'RE HERE, WE NEED TO EXPLAIN, WE WANNA EXPLAIN SOMETHING TO THE FIVE TWO ABOUT THE, THE REVENUE GENERATED FROM THE COURT COURSE.
I'M GONNA PREFACE THAT BY SAYING,
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I SAY THE COURT IS NOT A REVENUE.I KNOW Y'ALL DON'T LIKE TO HEAR THAT, BUT IT'S NOT OVER THE PAST YEAR OR REALLY THE LAST TWO YEARS, THERE HAS BEEN A PUSH ABOUT INDIGENCY A REALLY BIG PUSH.
THERE WERE A LOT OF BILLS PENDING THAT I WAS VERY GRATEFUL, GOT BURIED UNDER SOME MORE IMPORTANT THINGS THAT HAD TO DO WITH INDIGENCY AND HOW WE WERE GONNA HAVE TO HANDLE THAT.
NOT ONLY IN OUR OFFICES, BUT THE PRISONERS AT THE JAIL.
THERE IS A HUGE PUSH ABOUT, UM, HAVING INDIGENCY HEARINGS.
I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THESE GUYS, BUT I I ALREADY HAVE A DOCKET FOR THAT.
YOU'RE GOING TO SEE IN THE COMING MONTHS, MORE AND MORE PEOPLE THAT ARE GOING TO PROBABLY MEET THAT INDIGENCY STANDARD MAY NOT EVEN BE ABLE TO BE PUT ON A PAYMENT PLAN, BUT PRO BUT OFFERED MORE COMMUNITY SERVICE.
UM, SO I WANT Y'ALL TO BE AWARE OF THAT.
IF THAT'S NOT, UH, WE DON'T WANNA GO, WE DON'T WANNA BE CALLED TO AUSTIN BECAUSE SOMEBODY HAS A GRIEVANCE AGAINST US BECAUSE THEY FEEL LIKE THAT THEY WERE NOT TREATED FAIRLY DUE TO THEIR INCOME STATUS.
WE WE'VE BEEN MADE AWARE OF THAT.
JUDGE CHI HAS TALKED TO US ABOUT THAT.
UH, AND OF COURSE THERE'S TWO SIDES TO EVERY STORY.
UH, SOME OF 'EM DO TAKE UP SPACE IN THE JAIL.
THE SHERIFF TOLD ME YESTERDAY, UH, I WHAT IT IS TODAY, THEY'RE NO LONGER TAKING CLASS FOR THE NEXT 45 DAYS.
BUT WHAT THE STRESS IS, 'CAUSE JUDGE SMITH CALLED ME OUT BEFORE I GOT MY EMAIL.
AND WHAT STRESSES US OVER THAT IS THAT SOMETIMES THAT IS A WAY FOR US TO COLLECT MONEY THAT'S OWED TO THE COUNTY COURT.
WE UNDERSTAND, WE UNDERSTAND ABOUT MUNICIPAL.
WE HAVE ASKED REPEATEDLY THAT THEY STOPPED TAKING OUT OF COUNTY CLASS TWO MISDEMEANORS AND IT FALLS ON DEAF EARS.
JUDGE YOU MAGISTRATED AT THE JAIL AND YOU GO, IT COST US MORE TIME.
BUT WE HAVE A GREATER DUTY TO THOSE OUT OF COUNTY THAN WE DO TO ANY COUNTY MUNICIPAL.
DALLAS COUNTY WILL NOT EVEN, UH, WILL NOT EVEN LET DALLAS COUNTY CITIES BRING THEIR CLASS C MISDEMEANORS TO THEIR JAIL.
WHAT HAPPENS IS WE GO, THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE GOES AND PICKS UP SOMEBODY FROM DALLAS COUNTY JAIL THAT HAS A WARRANT OUT OF KAUFMAN COUNTY.
THE NEXT DAY WE SEE THEM IN OUR JAIL ON ME SEAT GARLAND RICHARDSON AND DALLAS MUNICIPAL CLASS C MISDEMEANORS HAPPENS EVERY TIME AND NOT PR OUT.
WELL WE HAVE, WE, THE FOUR OF US HAVE NOW SAID WE'RE GONNA START PRING THEM OUT.
BECAUSE IF THEY SAY TO US, I WANNA SIT IT OUT, GUESS WHAT GUYS? YOU'RE GONNA PAY FOR THEM TO SIT THERE FIVE DAYS, THEN WE HAVE TO DO A JUDGMENT ON AN OUTER COUNTY CASE.
THEN WE HAVE TO SEND THAT JUDGMENT TO WHATEVER, UH, MUNICIPAL COURT THAT CAME OUT OF.
AND OUR CLERKS HAVE TO DO THAT WORK TOO.
AND THEN THAT JUDGE DOESN'T HAVE TO ACCEPT IT.
THERE'S TWO CITIES IN THE COUNTY THAT HAVE A MUNICIPAL JAIL, TERRELL AND
DO THEY SEND THEIR CLASS C? NO, THEY DO NOT.
NOW I'LL TELL YOU, FAN COUNTY DOES NOT TAKE MUNICIPAL, UH, CLASS C AND COUNTY DOESN'T TAKE MUNICIPAL CLASS C.
THEY WILL TAKE THEIR COUNTY CLASS FEES.
BUT IN VAN Z COUNTY, IF YOU SEND A CLASS C THERE AND THEY WILL TAKE THEM, YOU'RE CHARGED $35 A DAY FOR THAT CRUISER.
AND THERE, THERE'S BEEN SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT ON THE EXCEEDS HARRIS COUNTY THAT DO NOT, UH, HAVE A JAIL.
THAT WE, WE USED TO DO THAT WITH THE CITY OF KAUFMAN, UH, YEARS AGO.
AND, UH, THERE WAS SOME DEAL MADE WHEN WE SWAPPED THE LAND WHERE WE'RE NOW THE JAIL IS.
AND I THINK FOR 10 YEARS WE SAID WE WOULD HOUSE THEIR PRISONERS AT NO COST.
WE WERE WONDERING WHY NEW POLICE DEPARTMENT GOT BUILT OR IT IS GETTING BUILT BY KAUFMAN BUT NOT A JAIL.
AND SO THEY PROBABLY, THEY PROBABLY, AND AND I'VE TALKED TO THE CITY MANAGER ABOUT THAT.
YEAH, OF COURSE HE WASN'T AWARE OF IT 'CAUSE HE WASN'T THEN.
BUT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, WE COULD DO.
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S A GOOD IDEA OR NOT BECAUSE IT
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KIND OF COMES BACK NOW WITH WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO, UH, YOU KNOW, UH, I, I'D LIKE FOR US TO SIT DOWN WITH THE SHERIFF AGAIN REALLY? BECAUSE IF, IF WE OPERATED ON A CLASS B OR ABOVE IN THE COUNTY JAIL AND THEN ONLY DID OUR CLASS C, YOU ARE GONNA SAVE MONEY FROM NOT HOUSING ALL THE OTHER PEOPLE.AND UH, YOU HAVE TO TAKE OUR CLASS CI SIGNED ABOUT 300 WARRANTS A WEEK.
I MEAN, THERE'S PEOPLE IN JAIL RIGHT NOW OUT OF MY OFFICE, I GUARANTEE YOU.
AND IF WE DON'T TAKE THOSE PEOPLE, WE'RE LOSING MONEY.
SO IN 45 DAYS IT WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA TO START TAKING OUR CLASS AGAIN.
WE NEED TO HAVE THAT DISCUSSION.
I THOUGHT THAT'S WHAT THEY WERE DOING LAST TIME THAT THEY CLOSED CLASS.
BUT THEY WEREN'T EVEN EVEN PICKING UP, THEY WEREN'T TAKING OUR RECEIPT EITHER.
THIS IS THE SECOND TIME AND PROBABLY WHAT THE LAST, OH, AND I THINK HE SAID HE WAS DOWN TO 15 MALE BEDS AND YOU KNOW, THAT FILL UP OVERNIGHT, YOU KNOW, UH, SO, BUT IT'S, IT'S, IT IS A DISCUSSION THAT I THINK I AGREE.
AND IF I CAN HELP PULL EVERYBODY TOGETHER TO DO THAT, I'D BE ABLE TO DO THAT.
WITHIN THIS 45 DAY PERIOD OF TIME.
JUDGE WOOD, I WANNA, UH, BRING ONE THING.
I DIDN'T PUT IT IN A PACKET 'CAUSE I GOT AN AFTER IT'S, UH, A RANDOM NUMBERS ON THE TRI COURT MM-HMM
AND IT'S THAT 475% NOW FROM LAST YEAR CASES FILED, CASE FILED FOUR 75%.
BUT THAT'S BECAUSE WE HAD THE MEETING LAST SUMMER WITH ALL THE JUDGES.
I MEAN ALL THE, UH, THE, UH, SCHOOL DISTRICT SUPERINTENDENTS ARE, OR ATTENDANCE CLERKS AND PRINCIPALS.
AND, UH, BUT THE ONLY THING IS THAT DOES NOT INCLUDE TERRELL.
TERRELL HAS YET TO FILE ONE CASE.
AND I THINK THE ASSISTANT DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S GONNA HAVE TO TALK TO TERRELL AND TELL THEM THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE REALLY KIND OF IN VIOLATION OF THE LAW IF THEY DON'T REPORT THEIR TRUANCY.
AND YOU AND I BOTH KNOW HOW THAT AFFECTS YOUR TAX BILL.
'CAUSE TRACY, IF YOU HAVE SO MANY KIDS OUT OF SCHOOL, THEN THEY DON'T GET THE FUNDS FOR THOSE KIDS.
SO I'M HOPING, UH, THE ASSISTANT DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S GONNA TALK TO THEM AGAIN.
BUT WE DID HAVE SOME FROM CAMP, WE HAD SOME FROM, UH, UH, CRANDALL AND, UH, I THINK HE EVEN HAD, NOT ROSTER, BUT I THINK THE ONLY ONE, I THINK MAYBANKS FILING GARRIS IN THE CITY COURT DOWN THERE, WHICH IS FINE.
BUT, UH, THAT COULD EVEN IF A TERRY FILING COURT EVEN A LOT MORE, HUH? IS TAR FILING GARS IN THE CITY CITY COURT EARLY? NOPE.
THEY'RE NOT FOLLOWING 'EM AT ALL.
WELL, I DON'T, I'LL DO THEM, YOU KNOW, CHECK THAT BECAUSE I THINK THEY PROBABLY, IT WOULD HELP THEIR, IT WOULD HELP GET THE KIDS IN SCHOOL.
SO THEY, THEY DON'T, THERE'S NO, UM, CONSEQUENCE TO THEM CUTTING, YOU KNOW.
SO, UH, WE ARE ON YOUR BUDGET AND YOU, UH, UH, TALKED ABOUT WHAT, UH, WELL, UH, LAST YEAR I GOT QUITE THIS AND, BUT I, I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THIS COMING HERE BECAUSE WE OFFICE SUPPLIES, JUST BECAUSE WE JUST HAVE MORE COMING OUT, YOU KNOW, WE HAD INCREASE, WE HAD 150% INCREASE ON CASES AND THAT AND THE TRUANCY.
UM, SO I HAD TO PUT THAT UP JUST A LITTLE BIT.
AND, UM, THEN ON THE TRAINING, EDUCATION, TRAVEL, I PUT THAT UP A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE I PLAN TO GO TO A TRAINING CONFERENCE MY LAST YEAR OFFICE.
SO LAST, NEXT YEAR, NEXT SUMMER, I'LL BE GOING TO THE TRAINING, BETTER KNOW WHY, BUT I'M GONNA GO.
SO YOU GOING FROM 1400 TO 1600? YEAH.
AND THEN I DID, UH, UH, I TOOK, I PUT THE DUES DOWN OF $50.
I, I PUT THE WRONG AMOUNT THERE.
SO MINUS TWO, KAREN, Y'ALL GET THAT.
SO I UPPED IT 250 AND LOWERED IT 50.
AND WHAT ABOUT YOUR, UH, EXTRA HELP? OKAY.
UM, WELL I'M STILL, UH, SHE IS STILL, WE STILL USE HER FROM, UH, ONCE THE SCHOOL STARTS FILING THEIR CASES, WHICH IS USUALLY AROUND OCTOBER THE FIRST.
I USE HER FROM OCTOBER THROUGH CHIEF.
HOW MANY CLERKS DO YOU HAVE? I HAVE THREE FULL TIME AND
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ONE PART-TIME.AND MIKE, HOW MANY DO YOU HAVE? I HAVE FOUR.
AND JUDGE, I HAVE THREE AND I'M THE PART-TIME GET I OUT HERE WHILE OTHER, UH, ANYTHING, UH, JUDGE ADAM, YOU, WE CERTAINLY WANT TO HEAR FROM YOU.
WELL, I, I THINK YOU MAY HAVE, BUT I DIDN'T WANT YOU TO FILL OUT THAT I WAS NEGLECTING YOU OR SOMETHING.
WE DID HEAR YOU TALK CHURCH SALAD.
AND THAT'S, OH, THE, THE, YEAH.
UH, WE'D LIKE TO INCREASE OUR FROM TWO 50 TO 300.
AND I BELIEVE, JUDGE, THAT WAS IT.
WE LET EVERYTHING ELSE THE SAME.
UH, OF COURSE ON MINE AS THE CAR ALLOWANCE SALARY.
AND LIKE I SAID, WE'RE NOT GONNA DISCUSS THAT THIS TIME, BUT THAT CAN BE DRIVEN WITH ALL THESE OTHER THREE.
UH, THESE, THESE ARE THE LIFE, THIS IS THE PEOPLE'S, THIS IS THE FIRST FLOOR MOST PEOPLE EVER HAVE DEALING WITH IS THE JUSTICE BOARD.
AND WITHOUT THESE LADIES THAT ARE WORKING WITH US, IT WOULD NOT RUN.
AND WE'RE NOT MONEY DRIVEN, BUT IT BRINGS A LOT OF MONEY INTO THE COUNTY.
SO WITHOUT THESE PEOPLE, UH, LEON'S BEEN HERE ALMOST 15 YEARS.
JEN'S BEEN HERE 10, UH, LOT'S BEEN THERE TOO.
UH, IT'S HARD TO TRAIN SOMEONE TO STEP IN, TAKE OVER THAT PERSON'S JOB.
I MEAN, IT'S TAKEN MANY, MANY YEARS FOR THESE LADIES THAT DO THE, THE CHIEF CLERK.
SO WHAT, WE'VE GOT ALL FOUR OF THE JPS GATHERED UP HERE TOGETHER.
ANYBODY HAVE ANY UH, ANY QUESTIONS? NO.
OTHER THAN WHAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT? OH, NO, BECAUSE SOMETIMES I'LL MAKE A NAP AND I SHUT MY EYES.
I MEAN, YOU KNOW, HE'S, WE'RE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF ALL THOSE SIDE.
WELL, EVERYBODY SHOULD HAVE THE RELATIONSHIP WE HAVE.
I I I GO AHEAD AND WAKE HER UP.
YOU HEAR THAT SAID HE GOES IN THERE AND WAKES YOU UP.
I I'M GONNA MEET WITH JUDGE CRO ABOUT WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT ON HIS CELL PHONE.
WE'VE SEEN IT EACH OTHER OUTSIDE, BUT BEEN NICE TO MEET YOU.
WE'LL SEE YOU WE'RE BREAK LUNCH AND COME BACK.
CHAD, YOU'RE THE FIRST ONE UP.
SO WE'VE GOT YOUR, AND THE NARRATIVE THAT YOU SENT OFF.
SO LEMME GET BACK HERE TO THE ACTUAL DOCUMENT.
MINE'S PROBABLY WHERE WE'RE CHECKING ON THE PARKING LOT.
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WELL, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND I THINK, UH, GET STARTED.I'M SURE HE'LL BE HERE MOMENTARILY.
UH, YOU UH, SENT US THE, UH, I THINK YOU'VE ALSO SENT US, YOU SENT US QUITE A BIT OF INFORMATION.
UH, I KNOW THIS IS YOUR FIRST GO BEFORE YEAH, BEFORE WE START THE UH, SALARY INCREASE IN THE CERTIFICATE PAY WAS THE OTHER CONSTABLES TOLD ME TO PUT IT IN THERE.
YEAH, THEY PROBABLY DIDN'T LIKE MATH.
I THINK ITS YOUR, THAT YOUR JOB TAKE.
SO THEY REQUIRE YOU GO ANOTHER WEEK OF SCHOOL AND I DON'T EVEN THINK I READ IT AND I DID.
YOU MIGHT HAVE TO HAVE FOUR HOUR ADDITIONAL YEAR OR SOMETHING.
AND I'M NOT EVEN SURE IT'S NECESSARY.
WELL, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, ONCE THE FIRST, THAT'S THAT WE PASSED THAT AND EVERY SHERIFF GET A PIZZA PRECINCT ONE EVERY RUN.
MUST NOT HAVE BEEN ENOUGH TIME FOR ONE.
HOW WAS THE SALAD TODAY? WELL, ACTUALLY IT WAS PRETTY GOOD UNTIL I GOT A CUCUMBER.
ALRIGHT, ON THE AGENDA ON THE, UH, PRECINCT BOARD CONSTABLE, UH, WE HEARD YOUR EXPLANATION JUST NOW.
AND SO ONE THING APPRECIATE THE FACT YOUR OWN JOB WORKING AND I KNOW PRECINCT FOUR, I APPRECIATE THAT TOO, SO MUCH.
SO, UH, BASICALLY WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT IS, UH, ADDITIONAL, YOU GOT LIKE OFFICE SUPPLIES HERE.
UH, YOU ASKING AND, UH, WHAT KAREN OR KW, WHAT HAS HE SPENT LOOKING IT UP NOW? AND THE ONLY REALLY THE ONLY INCREASE, THE INCREASE THAT I PUT ON HERE, SIR, GIMME EXTRA HELP BECAUSE I DON'T GET A EXTRA HELP.
WE, WE BUDGETED 600 IN THE 5 61.
IT'S, WE'LL LEAVE IF EVERYBODY'S OKAY, WE'LL LEAVE THE THOUSAND IN THERE.
THE REQUEST, UH, ON AMMUNITION, UH, GUESS YOU ANY SINCE I THINK EVERYBODY'S KEEPING THAT.
BELIEVE YOU GOT A, WHERE YOU GETTING YOUR MOA? YEAH.
BECAUSE THEY'RE GONNA BE THE BEST PRICE.
THAT'S WHERE THE MAJORITY, I BELIEVE, OVER, UH, PARTS AND REPAIRS.
YOU'VE ASKED THAT TO BE, UH, GO UP TO 4,500.
YEAH, WELL THAT, THAT KIND OF DEPENDS ON EXTRA HELP.
BUT ALSO I, I'VE ALREADY HAD TO DO A LINE ITEM TRANSFER PARTS BECAUSE I'M WHAT DO YOU HAVE IN THE VEHICLES? THREE.
WHAT'S THE MILEAGE ON THEM? DO YOU KNOW? RIGHT OFF HAND.
MINES AT 50 AND UH, MY PART-TIME GUY'S LIKE FOUR YEARS OLD.
OKAY, SO THEY'RE, THEY'RE, THEY'RE, YEAH, THEY'RE, I DON'T HAVE A SPARE CAR AT ALL, BUT, UH, THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE IS SUPPOSED TO BE LAWN GETTING RID.
SO WHERE ARE WE ON REPAIRS? UH, REPAIRS ARE AT, UH, 29 13.
FROM NINE 13 WHERE YOU'RE ON TWO.
I KNOW YOU HAD ONE VEHICLE THAT YOU HAD BEEN PARKED FOR SO LONG, YOU HAD, UH, HAD TO SPEND QUITE A BIT OF MONEY GETTING IT UP SO WELL, AND EVERY TIME THEY NEED TIRES, YOU KNOW, A FULL SET, IT'S LIKE 600.
YEAH, BECAUSE THERE'S SPEED RATED OVER.
WELL WE HAVE SPEED DIPS INSTEAD.
THEY MIGHT BE OUT, SAY TY, IS EVERYBODY OKAY WITH 4,500 FOR REPAIR?
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OKAY.UH, THEN ON THE NEXT ITEM IS GAS AND OIL.
UH, YOU GOT MARK THREE TEN SIX.
WHAT, WHAT, WHAT HAS HE SPENT LAST YEAR? WELL, HE SPENT 7,013 AS 7,000.
SO YOU'RE, UH, YOU'RE EVEN WITH NOT BEING FULL TIME LAST YEAR, YOU, LAST YEAR WHEN ME AND BROCK CAME UP HERE, WE TOOK 3,600 OUTTA THE, BECAUSE THEY, THEY HADN'T BEEN USING IT AND PUT IT IN, UH, UNIFORMS. SO IF YOU LOOK DOWN UNIFORMS, I, WHAT I DID WAS TAKE 16 AND PUT IT BACK IN THE GAS.
IS EVERYBODY ALRIGHT WITH THAT? YEP.
DOING WHAT? UH, 10, SIX ON THE FUEL? YEAH.
BUT WE'RE JUST REDUCING, UH, UNIFORMS, UH, FROM 36 TO 2000.
UH, AND THEN ON TRAINING, UH, MILEAGE, BILLS AND LODGING, ALL THAT, ALL THAT CAN STAY THE SAME IF I DON'T GET THE EXTRA.
WERE YOU, WERE YOU GOING TO SCHOOL? OKAY.
IF I DON'T HIRE THE EXTRA HELP, IT CAN SAY 2000.
AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT THE EXTRA HELP MINUTE.
AND THEN THE SAME WAY ON CONFERENCE EDUCATION KIND OF LOOKS AT THAT AND ALL THAT IS IS JUST THE REGISTRATION PRIMARILY AND THINGS NOT TRAVEL ANYTHING, UH, MUCH WAS ON TRAINING EDUCATION SO FAR.
MOST OF MY CONFERENCES HAVE COMING UP SUMMER OUT OF THE 2004 62.
4 62, UH, YOU THINK 2000 HURT YOU WE'LL LEAVE THAT ONE AT, AT TWO, UH, THOUSAND RATHER THAN UH, 3000.
UH, AND THAT'S PRIMARILY REGISTRATION FEES AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
AND THEN ON THIS, YOU CUT THAT BACK TO RAISE THAT TO 500.
UH, THE ONLY REASON FOR THAT IS BECAUSE GRANT WASN'T, HIS AGENCY WASN'T SET UP WITH
EVERYBODY VIEWS AND MISCELLANEOUS UH, 500.
UH, I WE, ANYTHING OUT? ANYTHING I YET IT DOESN'T HARD.
BONDS, UH, ON HERE IS IF, UH, WE DIDN'T 700 DID THAT ENOUGH BONDS.
MISCELLANEOUS? UH, WE SPENT 3 78.
SO TELL US, YOU, UH, I READ YOUR STUFF.
IT'S BEEN, UH, A LITTLE BIT OF TIME.
SO YOU'RE ASKING RIGHT NOW YOU HAVE YOUR CELL AND VANESSA AND A PART-TIME.
SO YOU'RE ASKING FOR A FULLTIME FULL-TIME.
UH, AND SO WHAT WOULD YOU DO IF YOU'RE PART-TIME? IT COMES OUT OF THE, UH, YOU GOT LIKE $30,000 AND PART-TIME HELP.
IF YOU WERE GIVEN A FULL-TIME DEPUTY, WOULD YOU CUT OUT YOUR PART-TIME JOB? NO.
I COULDN'T, I MEAN, I, I COULD DROP HIM DOWN TO 20, BUT HE'S ALREADY RIGHT NOW, IT WOULDN'T BE BENEFICIAL FOR ME TO DO THAT BECAUSE HE, HE WORKS 30 HOURS A WEEK RIGHT NOW IF I TOOK HIM OUT AND FULL.
AND YOU'RE, TELL US WHY YOU, YOU BRITISH? EVERYBODY.
SO YEAH, OUR OFFICE HAS JUST SNOWED OVER THE PAPERWORK.
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YOU CAN JUST START ON THE, ON THE SCHOOL ZONES IN MY AREA, THE, THE OTHER TOWNS, THE OTHER CITIES, THE OTHER PRECINCTS HAD THREE OR FOUR SCHOOLS.I GOT GOT, I GOT 15, GOT, UM, HEARTLAND IS GROWING TWO YEARS, SUPPOSED TO BE 5,000 HOMES AND FIVE YEARS SUPPOSED BE 8,000.
I JUST NEED MY PREFERENCE FOR HAVING THAT ON BECAUSE THERE'S SO MUCH, SO MANY PAPERS AND SO MUCH ISSUES IN THAT AREA.
I, WELL, YOU KNOW, MY OFFICE, I'M NOT GONNA TALK ABOUT OTHER OFFICE.
MY OFFICE GETS OUT AND HELPS THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE.
UM, CRANDALL PD CAN'T KEEP UP WITH OUR, THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE CAN'T KEEP UP WITH, THERE'RE ALWAYS 14 PEOPLE.
IT'S BEEN THAT WAY FOR 10 YEARS SINCE I'VE SHERIFF'S OFFICE.
SO I MEAN IT'S JUST DOES GRAND MAKE CALLS IN THE HARLAND? YEAH.
THEY HAVE A CONTRACT WITH 'EM I THINK.
OH THEY, OH THEY THEY HAVE A CONTRACT.
THEY MAY HAVE EIGHT OFFICERS TODAY AND TOMORROW THEY MAY HAVE TWO.
HARLAND BASICALLY PAYS THEM TO HAVE TWO OFFICERS.
ON DUTY FOR BEFORE CHAD GOT THERE.
VANESSA, SHE GOES JUST VANESSA FOR THE LAST YEAR FROM MAYBANK ALL THE WAY BACK.
IT'S DIFFERENT THAN THE PRECINCT.
JUST, JUST BECAUSE OF THE SIZE.
IF I GOT SOMEONE WHO CAN COME, THEY WANT THERE AND TAKE CARE OF SOMETHING, I GOT SOMEBODY.
UM, BESIDES BEING UP IN PAPERS THAT THAT OFFICE WOULDN'T TAKE CARE OF FOR TWO YEARS PRIOR TO BEING THERE, IT'S TAKEN ME SIX MONTHS TO GET IT STRAIGHT.
UM, I JUST NEED THAT, IT KIND OF ALL TIES IN TOGETHER BECAUSE THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE IS GOING FROM FOUR DOGS TO TWO DOGS.
I APPLIED FOR GRANTS THAT'S GONNA FOR IT.
SO WE'RE GONNA GO BACK INTO THE SCHOOLS AND DO THE SCHOOL PROGRAMS TEACHING THE KIDS.
AND THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE IS NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO DO THAT WITH THE DOGS OR NOT.
THE DOGS ARE GETTING BE PRETTY PROACTIVE.
WHAT ABOUT WHO DOES YOUR PAPERWORK? DO YOU HAVE AN ASSISTANT? UH, THAT NO, THE JP CLERKS TRY TO HELP ME.
BASICALLY ALL SHE DOES IS CHECK THE MAIL AND THEN SHE, WHEN THE PAPERS COME IN, SHE LOGS THE PAPERS IN THE SYSTEM AND IT GIVES ON MEETING EVERYTHING ELSE THAT THE OTHER THING, TRYING TO GET A PART-TIME CLERK.
BUT THAT'S PROBABLY THE LEAST LESS IMPORTANT THAN THAT EXTRA OFFICER.
BUT I WAS GONNA ASK Y'ALL, I MEAN IF, IF IT CAME DOWN TO IT, IT WAS TAKING 10,000 OFF FROM THE PART-TIME AND THEN ADDING ANOTHER 10,000 FOOT PARTTIME, YOU MEAN TO KIND OF SPLIT THE MONEY 20 FOR PART-TIME OFFICER AND 10 FOR PART-TIME CLERK.
WELL IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? OR 20, LIKE I WAS, IF IF WE DID THE THIRD 20, I WAS LIKE TAKE 10 AWAY FROM DON.
WELL I MEAN THAT'S THE WAY PRECINCT TURNED OUT EXTRA EVERYTHING.
AND THEN THE MISSIONS CAME ALONG AND KIND OF ABSORBED THAT SALARY AND THERE'S BEEN SOME TALK THAT SPLIT EVENTUALLY IN THE FUTURE MISSION WE NOT BE ABLE TO HELP THEM BECAUSE I'VE HAD TO TURN DOWN MONEY, WHICH IS, THAT MAKES NO SENSE TO ME.
WELL, I MEAN IF YOU GET INTO IT, AT LEAST WE, WE COULD GET THE HELP YOU NEEDED.
I MEAN WE WERE ALL FOR, WE CAN DO TWO EMISSIONS.
WE HAD ONE, YOU KNOW, DISCUSS.
WE'VE TALKED OUT PAM AND TALKED TO JASON DOING THAT.
I THINK THE ONLY WAY IS HAVING TWO DEPART RESPONSIBLE.
YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT A, A DODGE.
WE'RE WE'RE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT DONE A WHOLE LOT ON THE VEHICLE YET.
BUT YOU'RE WANTING TO GO TO A DODGE CHARGER.
WELL THAT IT'S, IT'S JUST CHEAPER.
AND IF I GET THE EXTRA PERSON THEN THAT'S PROBABLY WHAT I WOULD, I WOULD PROBABLY END UP DRIVING THE CHARGER.
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I RATHER HAVE A TRUCK TO BE HONEST.IS THAT, IS THAT A PRETTY ACCURATE ACCOUNT ON WHAT YES.
MATTER OF FACT, HE ATTACHED THE QUOTE THAT WAS GIVEN TO THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT.
SO THAT THAT IS WHAT WE PURCHASED THE LAST THAT'S ABOUT WHAT, $15,000 OR HOW MUCH THE TA WAS LIKE 50.
THE, THE CHARGER ONLY LIKE 35, 34.
WHAT WAS THAT? WHAT WAS THAT? AND THEY'RE COMING OUTFITTED.
THESE ARE COMING BEING OUTFITTED WITH EVERYTHING ON THEM.
WHAT WAS THAT? THAT STORE? WELL, THEY DON'T HAVE ALL THE EQUIPMENT ON.
THEY DIDN'T HAVE BUT MINE, THEY, THEY WERE CHEAPER.
THEY WERE PROBABLY, THEY WERE IN THE LIKE 25,000 FOR THE EXPLORER.
WHEN I THINK ABOUT THE ESCAPE, WHAT ABOUT THE ESCAPE? WHATEVER IT IS THE EXPLORER, LIKE 30 EXPLORER.
THAT THAT'S A, SOMETHING ABOUT 40 WHEN YOU GET THEM OUT.
I DUNNO THAT THE TARGET I'M, WE KNOW YET.
I THINK YOU GOT, I MEAN I THINK MY PERSONAL OPINION WAY, THE WAY IT'LL TAKE THIS LONG, IT'S THE WAY Y'ALL DRIVE, THE WAY THEY ROCK AND RUN OVER EVERYTHING.
I JUST DON'T THINK ALMOST ANYTHING WANTS TO WORK SURVIVE THAT.
AND I'M NOT, NOT, THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING.
I THINK WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE, THE WAY THE, THE CARS HANDLE OR HOLD UP, YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT THE CONSTABLE'S OFFICES OR PEOPLE THAT HAVE THEIR OWN CAR.
WHEN YOU GO TO THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE AND YOU GOT THREE OR FOUR DIFFERENT SHIFTS USING THE SAME VEHICLE 24 HOURS A DAY YEP.
SO I MEAN THE TAHOES WE GOT, THEY'RE, THEY'RE IN GOOD SHAPE AND THEY'VE BEEN THERE FOR THREE OR FOUR YEARS AND ONE'S ABOUT 90,000.
LET US NOT TAKE UNDER, UH, ADVISEMENT.
YOU REQUEST FOR AN ADDITIONAL DEPUTY AND PARKING VEHICLE AND OF COURSE THE DEPUTY WINDS UP COST MORE THAN JUST A BASE SALARY.
YOU HAVE ALL THE BENEFITS AND THE INSURANCE AND ALL THAT.
UH, BUT LET US UH, I DUNNO WHO'S MAKING A LIST OF THAT? OR YOU OR SOMEBODY.
YEAH, I'M NOT LIST WE'RE NOT APPROVING WE QUESTION.
WE NEED WAIT, MAYOR GUY CONSTABLE.
HE JUST HAS TO GO GET SEARCHED.
WELL I THINK HE, WE WENT TO A COURT ALL I TO CONFERENCE CONFERENCE AND THE GUY CAME FROM, UH, WEST TEXAS TALKED TO US AND THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT HAD A YEAH.
AND UH, SO ANYBODY, HE, HE WENT, HE WENT AROUND BASICALLY TO UH, EACH COMMISSIONER EVERY MONDAY MORNING AND FOUND OUT WHERE THE TROUBLE POT WAS AND THAT'S WHERE HE WORKED AT A PRETTY GOOD DEAL.
PRODUCED WHOLE LOT OF REVENUE.
IF I EVER GET OUTTA THE OFFICE, GET SOME HELP WHERE I GET OUTTA THE OFFICE, I'LL START, JUST GO DOWN AND SHAVE.
COULD I MAKE A POINT OF ORDER? YEAH.
YOU WANNA GET BACK TO WORK? WELL, NO, I'M SORRY.
I'M ACTUALLY SCHEDULED FOR TOMORROW AND I JUST WANT TO KNOW THE COURT'S PREFERENCE IF WE JUST HAD OUR PRELIMINARY BOARD REVIEW.
DO YOU WANT ME TO, WILL THAT SUFFICE OR Y'ALL LIKE ME TO COME BACK SEPARATELY OR, UH, COULD YOU MAYBE COME BACK? I'M, I'M HAPPY TO DO EITHER ONE.
I JUST WANNA WASTE YOUR TIME IF, UH, IF YOU WANT IT'LL BE GET YOU ONE PARTY.
I THINK, UH, TODAY, 10 MINUTES.
NO, I'M, I'M SET FOR TOMORROW.
I WAS JUST ASKING BECAUSE MY PROCESS IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT HAVING TO HAVE IT VOTED ON BY A BOARD BEFORE I ALRIGHT.
YEAH, YOU CAN GO AHEAD AND OKAY.
SHARE THAT WITH, OKAY, THAT'S, SO I HAVEN'T ASKED FOR ANY CHANGES.
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I ACTUALLY HAVE USED A LOT OF MY BUDGET THIS YEAR.I HAVEN'T GONE TO AS MANY, UM, CONFERENCES.
AND THE ONE THAT I DID WAS, UM, HONOR A SCHOLARSHIP.
SO, UM, THE EDUCATIONAL MATERIALS THAT'S BEEN IN THERE FROM WHEN I WOULD DO PROGRAMS AND I HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE THE OFFICE TO ANY.
WHAT ABOUT YOUR GAS OIL? WHERE I USED A WHOLE LOT? NO, YOU HAVEN'T SITTING IN THE PARKING LOT.
SHE BEEN WORKING PARKING LOT OVER CHERRY LOT I THINK IN MY PARKING LOT OVER FOR GAS AND OIL.
YOU'RE ASKING? UH, $267 KNOW WHY.
MAYBE CUT THAT BACK TO 500, BUT I THINK PROBABLY SEVEN.
I MEAN, HOW DID YOU SAY? 2 67.
GIVE HER ENOUGH JUST IN CASE SHE GOTTA HAVE IT.
WELL I KNOW SHE STARTS DOING THE PROGRAMS AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
THAT'S, THAT'S THAT, HUH? SEVEN 50.
SEVEN 50 SHE GIVE HER ON THE GAS AND, AND PAM IS VERY FRUGAL, UH, ON WHAT, WHAT SHE DOES.
SO, UH, ON THE MILEAGE MILLS AND LODGING, UH, YOU'VE NOT DONE VERY MUCH ON THAT THIS YEAR.
UH, BECAUSE WHAT YOU JUST STATED 800 HOW, HOW MUCH SHE SPENT ON I ONE CONFERENCE.
AND ON THE TRAINING EDUCATION CONFERENCE, UH, THAT REALLY WHAT THAT IS, THAT'S THE USUALLY PAY UH, OR IT'S THE REGISTRATION WHEN YOU GO TO A DENTIST.
IT'S NOT FOR TRAVEL, LIKE THE HOTEL STAY AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
AND UH, SO WE'VE GOT THAT AT 1250.
HOW MUCH? 2 75 MAYBE CUT THAT BACK TO SEVEN 50 IS FINE.
BE ALRIGHT WITH EVERYBODY? MM-HMM
UH, I KNOW WHAT YOU JUST SAID.
SO, UH, UH DO YOU WANNA THINK YOU'LL HAVE MORE TIME NEXT YEAR? WELL, I DUNNO, DEPENDING ON WHAT HAPPENS, ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF.
UH, HOW MUCH HAS SHE SPENT ON 593 62.
AND YOU HAVE ANYTHING COMING UP THAT YOU'RE GONNA NO, AND I BOUGHT MOST OF THE ITEMS FOR THE NEXT TWO PROGRAMS. OKAY.
SO MAYBE GO WITH A THOUSAND ON THAT.
AND YOU UH, I KNOW SEVERAL DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS.
HOW MUCH HAVEN'T I? IS TEXAS MAIN STREET? WE DO THAT EACH YEAR.
YEAH, BECAUSE I'M NOT SURE HOW MUCH AND ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? UH, PAM, GOOD JOB.
A LOT OF GRANT APPRECIATE YOU.
AND I JUST GOT THE PLAN FROM THE SHELTER AND I SENT HIM OVER TO ERIC'S OFFICE.
SO MAYBE THAT CAN'T GET STARTED ON THAT.
HE THOUGHT HE HAD THE PLANS FOR THE DRIVEWAY THEN HE DIDN'T FIND HIM WHEN HE GOT BACK IN THE OFFICE.
SO I GOT THEM THE ONES THAT WILL READ HER IDEAS AND SENT THEM OVER TO FRONT CHILDREN'S SHOW.
I'M SORRY, M THE CIRCLE, UH, COMMISSION, UM, CONFERENCE ROOM.
THE VERY BACK OF THE BUILDING.
IN THEIR MEETING AREA OR IN THEIR OFFICE.
RIGHT ACROSS THE PUBLIC WORKS.
WE'RE WAITING ON GONNA COME EARLY.
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RAISE.OH REALLY? CRANBERRY? NO CRANBERRY.
OH, HE SAID HE THIS AND SO PUT, HE SAID THE NEXT TIME WE HAVE A SERIES OF WORKSHOPS IF HE CAN JUST COME LIKE WHEN THE SHERIFF DOES.
UM, I THINK SO IT HIT THE VERY BACK UNDER OTHER DEPARTMENTS.
YES, WE UH, WE ARE STILL WORKING ON MOVING THE DIRT.
HAVE ALL THE DIRT IN TOMORROW.
HOW MUCH BASE WE NEED? I DUNNO.
ALL WE ALL WE CARE ABOUT IS SPECIAL CHICKEN.
SALAD? DID YOU HAVE A LOT OF SALAD? I HAD A LITTLE BIT OF, I HAVE SO I TECHNICALLY HAD A DID DID YOU BREATHE THAT PURPLE? IT WAS AN APPROVAL ONE MISSING.
I THINK IT'S SOME KIND OF BLACK CHERRY.
I WASN'T TRYING IT JUST LOOKED A LITTLE NICE.
I WENT WITH THE UH, ONE, THE LOW SUGAR COOL WHIP CONCOCTION AND THAT WAS A LITTLE SQUARE.
UH OH THAT WAS, YOU CAN TELL CASHEWS ARE SWEET.
SEE I CAN'T DO AN EXTRA JACKET.
BUT, UM, I COULDN'T TELL OLD FASHIONED.
THAT'S THE ONE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THAT HAS THE FIELDS.
I'VE NEVER TRIED BENADRYL A DIFFERENT ANGLE
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BUDDY.WAS Y'ALL WAITING ON ME? YEAH, WE'RE BACKING UP.
SHE SAID 1 45 SO I WAS LIKE, I'M HURTING.
SEVEN, FIVE, EVERYTHING YOU NEED TO KNOW.
THANK YOU FOR COMING OVER A LITTLE, A LITTLE EARLIER THAN WE HAD ANTICIPATED.
TRY NOT TO TIE YOU UP TOO LONG.
UH, YOU, WE'VE GOT OF COURSE COPIES OF YOUR BUDGET, UH, REQUEST AND UH, SO I DON'T KNOW, WOULD YOU WANT TO KIND OF GO OVER UH, WHAT YOU, WHAT YOU'RE TALKING TO US ABOUT HERE? SURE.
UM, YOU HAVE THREE, THREE CELL PHONES I GUESS.
AND WHAT I WAS LOOKING AT DOING IS JUST BUMPING THAT TO COVER ALL THE PEOPLE IN MY DEPARTMENT.
UH, YOU KNOW, PHILIP, TREVOR, PHILIP ALREADY GOING THERE.
THOMAS ALREADY ON THERE MYSELF.
AND THEN BUMPING THAT TO GET ALICIA AND TREVOR ON THERE AS WELL.
WHICH THAT WOULD BRING IT FROM 2,700 TO 45.
SO ADDING ALL QUESTION FOR WHY WOULD ALICIA NEED TO BE ON THERE? WELL THIS BECAUSE AFTER HOURS YOU SAID THE OFFICE DURING THE DAY, SO RIGHT.
I'M JUST, IN MY MIND I'M THINKING JUSTIFICATION.
WELL, WHEN STUFF COMES IN, SOMETIMES SHE'LL TEXT US FROM HER PHONE LIKE, HEY, A SCREENSHOT, PUT THIS WORK ORDER.
HERE'S A EMERGENCY'S GOING ON LIKE THE SOUTH CAMPUS WHEN THE FIRE WAS GOING AT, YOU KNOW, SHE'S CALLING US FROM HER CELL PHONE 'CAUSE SHE'S OUTSIDE, YOU KNOW, LETTING US KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON.
SO I MEAN, JUST STUFF LIKE THAT.
I TELL YOU WHAT, MY SECRETARY USES HER PHONE AS MUCH AS SHE DOES THE OTHER FROM OUTSIDE FROM THE CREWS SENDING PICTURES IN TO DOWNLOAD THE COMPUTER.
I MEAN THE WHOLE WORLD'S CHANGED.
YOUR SECRETARY GOT A YES STEP.
YOUR EXCUSE OUR SUB BOWLS DON'T WORK IN MY BUILDING.
I MEAN WE JUST ROAD CREWS AND EVERYTHING ELSE.
IT'S JUST, IT'S BECOMING INTEGRAL PART NOW.
AND YOU KNOW WHAT I THINK, I MEAN THIS AND I TOLD YOU ALL DONE A YEAR AGO, BUT I FORGOTTEN.
I KNOW I'VE TOLD, OR I THINK THAT MY MAIN THING WAS GET RID OF ALL THE TELEPHONE.
WE HAD AN EXTRA PERSON IN PURCHASING BASICALLY ALL ALMOST JUST TO TAKE CARE OF THE PHONE BILLS.
WE WENT THROUGH THIS AND IT CUT KIND OF ALL THAT WORK LOT AND ALL THE BILLS AND ALL THE CHASING OF THE PHONE.
I THINK THAT WE ALL JUST DOWN JUST GOT TO THE POINT WHERE EVERYBODY OWNS A CELL PHONE.
OH, GIVE US YOUR NUMBER WHEN YOU COME TO WORK.
IF WE NEED TO GET AHOLD OF YOU OR YOU NEED TO CALL SOMEBODY OR TEXT SOMEBODY, THAT'S JUST DEAL.
WE ROLL THESE STUFF OVER INTO THEIR SALARY AND FORGET IT.
THEN THEY, YOU DON'T THINK THEY'LL FORGET ABOUT WHERE IT CAME FROM THAT IT'S FOR THIS.
NO, I MEANT ALL THE PEOPLE THAT ARE HERE NOW WITH THE SIDE, WE JUST TAKE THAT MONEY, ROLL IT OVER THE SALARY.
YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? AND THEN WE JUST CUT IT OUT.
AND THAT WAS MY ORIGINAL PLAN ALL TO START WITH AND SINCE WAS SO WE COULD ELIMINATE WORK.
OTHER WORDS, PROCESS, YOU KNOW.
WELL, AND WE DID THOSE TWO TIERS OF THE STIPEND AND NOBODY EVER DID, I MEAN THE LOWER ONE, NOBODY, WELL NOBODY HAD, DOESN'T HAVE A SMARTPHONE.
EVERYBODY WANTS, EVERYBODY HAS A SMARTPHONE.
EVERYBODY WHO'S, WHO'S ASKED FOR LESS THAN THE $75 A MONTH, NO ONE AT ALL.
I MEAN, WHO HAS A CELL PHONE BILL THAT'S NOT AT LEAST 7,500 A MONTH.
BUT I MEAN, I MEAN WHICH IS NOT EXCLUSIVELY USED FOR COUNTY BUSINESS EITHER, RIGHT? THAT'S TRUE.
NOT EVERYBODY HAS A CELL PHONE REGARDLESS OF WHETHER OR THEY WORK HERE.
I MEAN AND IT IS NOT THAT I'M TRYING TOT MAN, I THINK THAT'S REALLY, I OFFERED THEM A LOT MORE THAN WHAT IT WAS WORTH TO START WITH.
AS FAR AS I WAS REALLY CONCERNED.
I DON'T THINK MOST SHOULD RECEIVED MORE THAN 45 FOR, WE, WE, WHEN WE FIRST DISCUSSED THE TIERS THAT THE 75 WASN'T, I, I BELIEVE YOU WERE THE ONE THAT, THAT
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COME UP WITH THE 75 AS A SECOND TIER.AND I SAID, YOU KNOW, SO, SO THOUGHT THAT WAS FOR DEPARTMENT HEADS AND ELECTED OFFICIALS THOUGH WAS MY UNDERSTANDING.
WELL, OR ANYBODY THAT ACTUALLY HAD TO HAVE A COUNTY VOTE.
IN OTHER WORDS, IF YOU NEEDED A COUNTY FARM AT THAT POINT, AT THE STAGE OF THE GAME, IF YOU NEEDED IT THEN, THEN WE WERE REPLACING IT WITH MONEY JUST TO GET RID OF ALL THE OBLIGATIONS AND ALL THE PHONE BILLS AND KEEPING UP WITH ALL THE, WE HAD THREE OR RIDICULOUS CARRY AROUND TOO.
I MEAN I'VE PICKED UP ALL MY PHONES AND MOST OF 'EM THEY HAD TO GO HOME AND GET 'EM BECAUSE NOBODY WAS USING.
THEY JUST TRANSFERRED CALLED FORWARD TO THE NUMBER, TO THEIR PHONE.
AND I THINK YOU DID THE SAME THING.
YOU CAN CUT SOME OFF FOR OTHER DEPARTMENTS.
WELL AND EVEN I WAS PAYING ONE OF YOUR CALLS.
WELL, I'M GLAD I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING.
NO, BUT I DO LIKE THE IDEA OF THE CONCEPT HE'S TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, AND THE WORLD'S CHANGED SO EVERYBODY HAS ONE NOW.
AND THE FIRE SERVICE, WE HAD TO HAVE A PHONE EVEN BACK BEFORE THERE WAS CELL PHONES.
WE HAD TO HAVE A PHONE THAT WAS REQUIRED.
THAT WAS A LONG, BUT IT WAS, BUT YOU KNOW, WE WERE EVEN REQUIRED TO HAVE A PHONE BACK IN THE DAY.
I KNOW, BUT I ASSUME WE CAN STILL DO THAT WITH OUR EMPLOYEES IS WELL REQUIRE A PHONE.
LET ME ASK THIS QUESTION BECAUSE HERE'S A, HERE'S AN ISSUE WE MAY HAVE WITH FLSA.
WHEN YOU HAVE YOUR ADMINS WHO HAVE A PHONE, THEY'RE CONSIDERED HOURLY IF THEY, IF THEY WORK WITH THAT PHONE AFTER HOURS AND THEY YES.
BUT IT COULD BE A PROBLEM FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE CONSIDERED NON-EXEMPT WHEN THEY'RE DEALING WITH EMAILS OR ANSWERING TEXTS OR WHATEVER ON THAT PHONE.
THEY CAN COME BACK LATER AND SAY, UM, I'M GONNA ADD THAT TO MY WORK TIME.
WELL, COULD THEY ANYWAY, EVEN IF WE'RE PAYING FOR THE PHONE? YES.
SEE, SO THAT DOESN'T MAKE ANY DIFFERENCE.
I'M JUST SAYING FOR EXEMPT, FOR NON-EXEMPT PEOPLE.
I DON'T THINK THAT IT IS ADVISABLE FOR THEM TO HAVE EMAIL AND STUFF ON THEIR PHONE.
WELL I THINK, I THINK THE FLSA LAWS ARE ANTIQUATED.
'CAUSE I THINK THERE'S BACK WHENEVER SOMEONE WAS REQUIRED TO CARRY A PAGER, NO, THEY JUST UPDATED THIS FOR HOURS.
YOU KNOW, THE WHOLE IDEA, THE WHOLE CONCEPT, YOU KNOW, SO THEY JUST RECENTLY UPDATED THIS TO INCLUDE TIME SPENT ANSWERING EMAILS AND THINGS THAT, THAT THAT THAT THEY CAN COME BACK AND SAY THAT THEY WERE WORKING, I'M SORRY I BROUGHT THIS UP.
THIS IS A WORKSHOP KIND OF ISSUE TO ME.
AND NOT FOR BOBBY'S TIME HERE FOR HIS, I JUST THINK IT'S SOMETHING WE NEED TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION.
THAT I'M NOT, I'M NOT WORRIED.
I'M JUST SAYING IF IT'S, IF IT'S BETTER FOR US ONE WAY OR ANOTHER, IT PROBABLY NEEDS TO BE LOOKED AT.
I MEAN, BUT THE BUT CARRYING TWO PHONES AROUND.
IT'S LIKE YOU SAID, IF YOU'RE GONNA HAVE YOUR OWN PHONE, LIKE YOU SAID, IF YOU DON'T CALL WHO YOU WANT TO CALL, YOU GOING TO TEXT WHO YOU WANT TO CALL KNOW WHY EVERYBODY'S CAN SAY DECLINE BECAUSE THEY ALREADY HAVE A DAMN A PHONE.
MY HUSBAND GOT A $50 A PAYCHECK TO MAINTAIN HIS PHONE.
AND HE HAD TO HAVE A SMARTPHONE FOR HIS OLD JOB AND THEY JUST, THEY PUT I HAD DIDN'T HAVE HAVE A SMART PHONE.
THEY, HE THEY REQUIRED HIM TO HAVE ONE.
I WAS NOT REQUIRED TO HAVE A CELL PHONE.
YOU KNOW WHAT THEY GAVE ME? THEY GAVE ME A BEAVER AND IF THEY NEEDED ME, THEY'D CALL ME ON THE BEAVER AND I'D CALLED HIM ON MY PERSONAL PHONE AND I DIDN'T GET PAID FOR IT.
HEY DON, HE'S NOT OLD ENOUGH TO KNOW WHAT A PAPER IS.
SO LISA, SINCE YOU ARE THE KEEPER OF THE CELL PHONE, YOU, YOU'D BE THE PERSON KIND OF BRINGING THIS TO US WITH SOME SUGGESTIONS ON MAYBE HOW WE COULD DO IT.
I'D LIKE KNOW WHAT WE'RE SPENDING RIGHT NOW.
WELL, WE HAD, WE HAD, WE SHOULD PROBABLY PUT BACK TOGETHER OUR LITTLE CELL PHONE IF YOU'D LIKE TO DO THAT.
WE'RE NOT PUTTING IT ON THE, YOU'RE IN CHARGE TO DO THAT AGAIN.
THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE AND I GUESS THE JAIL, THEY, THEY PAY FOR THEIR CELL THEY HAVE OUT THERE.
WELL, AND THEY AND THEY DO CRIMINAL STUFF.
THAT'S, WE NOT TALKING ABOUT PEOPLE THAT DO DEAL WITH CRIME LAWS.
THEY HAVE SEPARATE PHONES AND THE POLICE OFFICER CARRIES SEPARATE PHONES.
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WHETHER IT'S PEOPLE OR WHATEVER, IT'S HIS PERSONAL CELL.I CAN SEE PEOPLE IN THE PUMP PART OF MAINTENANCE HAVING THAT PROVIDED TO ME BECAUSE YOU NEVER KNOW WHEN ONE OF THESE COMMODES IS GONNA OVERFLOW AND WATER'S ION EVERYWHERE.
GENERALLY HAVE ABOUT FOUR 30 ON FRIDAY AFTERNOON.
SOMEBODY RUNS THROUGH THE LOG COMMISSIONER.
UH, THAT'S, UH, TELL US, I KNOW, UH, PAUL AT ONE TIME WAS GETTING CAR ALLOWANCE.
SO THE CAR ALLOWANCE, THAT'S THE 3,600.
SO HALF OF THAT CAR ALLOWANCE, HE GETS HALF BASICALLY.
SO HALF THE TIME HE'S SUPPOSED TO USE HIS TRUCK, OTHER HALF IS SUPPOSED TO USE THE COUNTY VEHICLE.
AND I KNOW THAT'S, I KNOW, BEEN A DISCUSSION POINT WITH SOME PEOPLE AND I I NEED TO VISIT WITH UH, FRED ABOUT THAT.
SO YEAH, I MEAN I'M TOTALLY FINE.
WE'RE WORKING ON GETTING SOME VEHICLES RIGHT.
AND THE NEXT ITEM IS MAINTENANCE SUPERVISOR.
THAT, THAT WAS ACTUALLY PAUL PAUL WAS AT.
AND TOMMY TOOK HIS SPOT THERE.
SO, OKAY, SO TOMMY WAS GETTING THAT PART? YES SIR.
AND THEN THE OFFICE CLERK, UH, THAT, UH, THAT WAS A POSITION THAT YOU HAD HAD.
UH, THEN, UH, SALARY CUSTODIAN, UH, COURTHOUSE AND IT'S HARD TO SAY CHURCH HOUSE COURTHOUSE AND ANNEX.
UH, THAT'S, TELL US WHAT YOU'VE DONE ON THIS FLOOR.
UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'VE DONE ON CUSTODIAL AND OKAY.
UM, I DON'T KNOW IF Y'ALL'S NUMBER, I NUMBERED MINE, BUT IF YOU LOOK AT JANITORIAL SERVICES, UH, COURTHOUSE AND SUB COURTHOUSE, JANITORIAL SERVICES LIBRARY AND THE JANITORIAL SERVICES EXTENSIONS, BASICALLY WHAT WE DID IS WE TOOK THAT MONEY THAT WE WERE PAYING THOSE PEOPLE WERE COME IN, THEY WERE COMING IN AFTER HOURS AND WHATNOT AND SOME OF 'EM CLEANING DURING THE DAY AS WELL.
WE TOOK ALL THAT MONEY OUT AND WE JUST HIRED OUR OWN PEOPLE.
WE HAD TEMPORARY PEOPLE THAT WERE ALREADY WORKING HERE, THAT WERE WORKING PART-TIME.
AND WHAT WE DID IS WE OFFERED THOSE POSITIONS TO THE PEOPLE THAT WERE WORKING PART-TIME ALREADY.
SO WE ELIMINATED ALL THE OUTSOURCING THOSE JANITORIAL AND WE BROUGHT 'EM IN HOUSE.
AND HOW WE DID THAT WAS IS WE ZEROED OUT THOSE, BUT WE MOVED THIS MONEY AND THAT'S WHY YOU SEE THERE, UH, ZERO THESE OUT TO COVER THE THREE JANITORS WE HIRED.
AND I HAD AN EMPTY, UH, VACANT JANITORIAL SPOT AS WELL.
SO THOSE THREE LINE ITEMS COVERED THOSE THREE NEW EMPLOYEES.
WELL I'LL TELL YOU, THEY'RE DOING A GREAT JOB OF MY PLACE.
WE GET ALONG WHEN THEY LEAVE THE PLACE.
Y'ALL LOOK AT, HE WAS LOOKING AT ME WHENEVER HE SAID COMPLAINTS, HE LOOK OVER AT ME.
I JUST DON'T LIKE WHEN I'M ON MY PHONE, COMES IN WITH THE MASKING CLEANER AND IT'S LIKE, I, I'M WORKING, I'M WORKING TO FIX THAT.
WE'RE GOING, I'M GONNA WORK TO GET WHERE THE ANNEX IS CLEAN AFTER HOUR.
WHEN I ASK, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU'RE GOING DOWNSTAIRS AND THAT WINDOW RIGHT THERE, IT'S FILMING.
WOULD YOU GET THE SPIDERWEBS TOP THERE THAT LOOKS CRAPPY FILLED IN? SOMEBODY HAS ACTUALLY LIKE THROWN LIKE GUM CRACK UP THERE IN THAT LOOKS BAD.
WELL, DON'T TAKE THE STAIR STAIRWAY.
YOU STILL SEE IT AND NOW THEY'RE HANGING FROM THE CEILING.
I'M SURE YOU'LL TAKE TOGETHER AND PUT A ROOM ON.
CAN'T GET YOU IN TROUBLE HERE.
THAT KIND OF, SO, UH, SEE, I BROUGHT A NOTEPAD BECAUSE I KNEW THIS WAS GOING
THE, UH, SALARIES, UH, FACILITIES.
THE SALARIES, UH, FACILITIES SUPERVISOR.
I THINK THAT'S AND THE SALARY, SALARY, SALARY FACILITIES.
THAT INCLUDES WHO? ALL THAT INCLUDES PHILLIP, TREVOR.
UM, AND I THINKS IN THAT NO CRYOS IN THE OTHER ONE.
SO, UH, WE'RE, WHERE ARE WE ON THAT? UP TO
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POINT, IT SHOWS THAT WE BUDGET 131,000 AND SO, WHICH BEEN 52.WHICH ONE DOESN'T EVEN BE SLOT FOR.
THAT'S WHY, THAT'S WHY I THAT'S IT SAYS JAIL THOUSAND OR SOMETHING.
BUT I THINK THEY'RE BOTH, WE CAN'T HEAR YOU.
HE WAS SAYING SOMETHING AND I COULDN'T HEAR HIM, SO THAT'S WHY I WAS TRYING TO, I THOUGHT ASKING, I WAS JUST TELLING HIM THAT THE JOB SET THERE EMPTY FOR FIVE MONTHS.
THAT'S, THAT'S DID, THAT'S WHY.
AND THEN YOU ALSO HAD, UH, UNDER THE SALARY CUSTODIANS, CH AND NX, THAT'S WHERE KYLE AND PATRICIA WERE BUDGETED AND THEN SHE LEFT AND WE DIDN'T FILL THAT POSITION.
WE USED SOME OF THAT MONEY DURING THE YEAR FOR THE PART-TIMERS TO KEEP THE BUILDINGS CLEAN UNTIL HE COULD GET HIS FOOT SETTLED AND UNDERSTAND WHO HE NEEDED WHERE.
ALRIGHT, WELL WHAT DO WE NEED TO DO WITH THAT? LEAVE IT LIKE THIS UNTIL WE YEAH.
AS FAR AS ALL THE SALARIES GO, WE HAVE THAT BIG SALARY SPREADSHEET.
BUT, UM, I, I GAVE Y'ALL THAT OR WE, WE GAVE Y'ALL THIS MORNING.
JUST THAT KIND OF LIST OF THE CHANGES.
THAT'S BASICALLY WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT RIGHT NOW.
BUT AT LEAST FOR BOBBY'S DEPARTMENT, A LOT OF THAT, AGAIN, BEING MADE UP BY THE JANITORIAL.
I KNOW, BOBBY, YOU'RE WANTING ANOTHER PERSON FOR MAINTENANCE, CENTRAL MAINTENANCE.
AND SO WE'RE, WE'RE REALLY JUST KIND OF TAKING THOSE NOTES DOWN.
UH, BECAUSE YOU DO NEED ADDITIONAL HELP AS YOU GO THROUGH THE, THE YEAR, YOU KNOW, OF ALL THE DIFFERENT THINGS THAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IN HOUSE RATHER THAN HIRE SOMEBODY TO COME IN.
SO ALL THAT LINE ITEM ON NUMBER SEVEN OUT THERE, THAT'S HUNDRED 31.
IS THAT FOR TWO TO THREE PEOPLE? IT'S ACTUALLY THREE.
YOU JUST CAN'T THINK OF THE THIRD ONE.
DO WE HAVE THAT? IT WAS AN EMPTY ONE.
THANK IT WAS A, IT WAS A VACANT ONE.
I OFFSET THE COST OF THE JANITOR.
YOU GOT, YOU GOT DORA KAYO, FRED, ALICIA, PHILLIP, TOMMY.
AND THEN YOU'VE GOT, UH, THE ONES THAT CAREER, VASQUEZ AND IRENE, WHICH IS KAYO AND IRENE.
YOU SAID YOU HAVE ONE POSITION.
IS THIS A NEW POSITION? IT WAS A JANITOR OR A CUSTODIAN.
OH, THE ONE THAT JUDGE WOODMAN? YES.
AND THEN THE NEXT ONE, SALARY, JAIL MAINTENANCE.
I KNOW THESE ARE ALL HEADQUARTERED IN THE JAIL AND THEY HAVE BEEN, BUT IT FITS UNDER THE MAINTENANCE, UH, AREA.
UH, AND SO, UH, YOU TELL US HOW THAT WORKS.
AND I KNOW THERE'VE BEEN SOME PEOPLE QUESTIONING ABOUT IS IT, YOU KNOW, OR HAVE SOME CONCERN.
MY DEAL IS THAT'S PROBABLY THE BEST MAINTAINED FACILITY WE HAVE IN THE COUNTY.
ONE OF THE CLEANEST, IF NOT THE CLEANEST.
SO HOW IS THE INTERACTION WITH THE GUYS THAT REALLY WORKS? OH, NO, WE, WE WORK WELL TOGETHER.
SEE EVERYBODY WORKS GOOD THEN.
SEE, THE THING IS THERE'S FIVE OF THOSE GUYS OVER THERE AT THE JAIL.
UM, THREE OF 'EM ACTUALLY STAY IN THE JAIL AND WORK MAINTENANCE IN THE JAIL.
TWO OF 'EM GO OUTSIDE EVERY EVERY DAY.
KEN GOES AND HE MOWS ALL THE COUNTY PROPERTIES.
AND THEN, UH, I FORGET THE OTHER GUY'S NAME, BUT HE TAKES CARE OF ALL THE ROUNDS AT THE JAIL.
SO EVERYTHING ON THE OUTSIDE HE MOWS AND WES STRINGS, THE TREES, ALL THOMAS COLE? NO, GALEN FOG.
RICHARD RE YEAH, RICHARD RE THAT'S THE GUY, RICHARD.
HE DOES ALL THE OUTSIDE OF THE JAIL AND KEN DOES ALL THE COUNTY PROPERTIES.
THE SOUTH CAMPUS, UH, KIM, UH, THE ECO STATION E.
SO THE DEAL IS, I MAKE SURE EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS, YOU KNOW, THAT'S, IN THE PAST WE HAD, WE DUNNO WHAT THEY'RE DOING, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE NOT DOING ALL THAT, BUT YOU'RE PERFECTLY HAPPY WITH THE WAY IT WORKS.
AND YOU HAVE A GOOD WORKING RELATIONSHIP WITH THEM WHEN YOU NEED THEM TO DO SOMETHING.
JIMMY, JIMMY, JIMMY'S THE, HE'S KIND OF LIKE THE, THE MEDIA AT THE JAIL.
AND ME AND JIMMY, YOU KNOW, IF WE NEED INMATES, I CALL JIMMY, WE GET INMATES.
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HELP, WE HELP HIM.MY OPINION, IT'S WORKING GREAT.
AND WE'RE USING THEM ON OTHER, ALL OVER THE COUNTY.
WELL SINCE YOU'VE COME ON BOARD IT, IT, THERE THERE'S BEEN A NOTICEABLE DIFFERENCE IN IN THE USE OF THE INMATES.
UM, YOU KNOW, THAT WAS A LITTLE MORE STRICT, I GUESS.
I'M NOT REALLY, BUT YOU KNOW WHAT, THEY'RE, THEY'RE ABSOLUTELY.
I I GUESS THE RELATIONSHIP YOU HAVE WITH THEM HAS HELPED GET THAT WHOLE EXTRA HELP.
BRIAN'S A BIG PART OF THAT, YOU KNOW.
WELL, HE'S, HE'S A JUST GET IT DONE GUY JUST LIKE WE ARE.
UH, FACILITY MANAGER, UH, 66 OR THAT'S 60,600.
UH, WHAT DO WE DO? WE ALREADY SPENT A LOT OF IT.
UM, ACTUALLY, WELL, YEAH, IT'S PRETTY WELL USED, BUT WE HADN'T PAID ANYTHING SINCE MARCH.
SINCE HE GOT THE NEW PEOPLE IN PLACE.
THAT WAS, WAS USED FOR THE PART-TIMERS THAT HE HAS MOVED INTO.
SO DO YOU, YOU, YOU THINK YOU NEED TO KEEP THAT AMOUNT JUST AND, UH, YOU NEVER KNOW WHEN YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE SOMETHING? YEAH.
I MEAN, IT WOULDN'T HURT TO KEEP IT, I MEAN, BUT IF YOU NEED TO GIVE IT BACK, WE'LL GIVE IT BACK.
BUT I MEAN THE, THE BIGGEST PROBLEM WITH THAT IS, IS LIKE IF SOME OF THESE JANITORS, LIKE KYLE WAS OUT FOR, YEAH, YOU NEED SOME, YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHERE THAT WOULD BE CHARGED.
SO SEE, BECAUSE HE WAS ON FMLA, WE COULD NOT USE HIS SALARY POSITION FOR ANYBODY ELSE.
SO WE HAD TO TAKE IT AWAY FROM THERE.
I JUST, I JUST WANT EVERYBODY TO HAVE A CLEAR UNDERSTANDING, ESPECIALLY ME.
WELL NOW YOU CAN CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, LAURA, YOU'RE THERE.
BUT IF YOU, IF LIKE KYLE WAS OUT FOR SIX MONTHS AND YOU ONLY HAD 6,000 COULD TAKE AND TRANSFER PART HIS SALARY OVER THAT EXTRA LINE OUT THAT HE HADN'T USED.
SO YOU CAN CAN'T, WELL WE KEEP THAT LINE ITEM IN THERE AND KEEP THAT 6,000.
THAT'S THE SIMPLEST THING TO DO.
BUT THE PROBLEM IS REALLY IN COUNTY GOVERNMENT, LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE, YOU'RE REALLY NOT SUPPOSED, IF YOU HAVE AN ESTABLISHED POSITION SALARY, YOU'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO BE MOVING FROM THERE.
AND WE'VE ALLOWED THE SO TO DO THAT BECAUSE THE CITY COUNTY WAS IN A FINE, COULDN'T BUY VEHICLES AND HE HAD SUCH A TURNAROUND, HE HAD A LOT OF MONEY SITTING THERE.
YOU'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO REALLY DO THAT.
THEY TELL YOU THAT'S NOT GOOD PRACTICE.
IT HAS TO COME FROM ANOTHER OPERATING EXPENSE LINE ITEM BUT NOT SALARIES AND BENEFITS.
IT'S A BAD PRACTICE TO DO THAT.
BUT WE COULD, LIKE YOU SAID, IF WE HAD TO, WE DID APPRECIATE THAT'S SALARY IN THE LINE.
I APPRECIATE YOUR PLAIN SPOKEN.
YOU WANT ME TO SHUT UP JUDGE YOU SOME NICE WAY FROM
OFFICE SUPPLIES, UH, WHERE ARE WE ON THAT? IT'S BEEN 8 32 AND I KNOW YOU GUYS ARE UH, LOT OF STUFF OUT THERE.
I THINK YOU CAN GO 2000 ON THAT.
MAKE THAT 2000, UH, MEDICAL SUPPLIES.
UH, WHAT'S THAT? SO BASICALLY THE MEDICAL SUPPLIES IS FOR LIKE THE COURTHOUSE.
UM, ANNEX, ANNEX SOUTH CAMPUS MEDICAL BOXES COMES OUTTA YOUR BUDGET.
ALL THAT STUFF'S GOING OUT ON MY BUDGET.
AND DIDN'T WE CHANGE VENDORS OR SOMETHING? SOME HAVE, I DON'T KNOW THAT EVERYONE HAS.
SO, AND WE ACTUALLY CHANGED THE ONES AT THE COURTHOUSE TOO TO BRING THAT.
AND THESE PEOPLE ACTUALLY SERVICE THE LOTS.
SKE IS REALLY WORRIED ABOUT THE HAND TOWELS THAT WE USED IN THE COURTHOUSE BECAUSE THEY'RE HARD UNROLL.
CAN YOU GIVE ME AN UPDATE ON THAT? YES.
THE, UH, SPOKE TO STEAD KIRK AND ON STEAD.
KIRK WAS ACTUALLY WILLING TO GIVE THEM A DISS FOR THEY'RE NOT FREE.
10 OF 'EM SAY SOMETHING ABOUT THE HAND THAT, IS IT THE ONE THAT YOU JUST WIPE YOUR HAND IN FRONT OF IT? YOU HAVE HANDS.
WELL THE PROBLEM WE HAVE WITH, I'LL JUST GET THE COURSE, YOU KNOW, BUT PROBLEM YOU HAVE, IT IS HARD TO GET IT DONE UNWRAPPED SOMETIMES, YOU KNOW, YOU GET PART AND ALL THAT.
WELL THESE ARE THE ONE THE COUNTY
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FRED WAS A LITTLE NERVOUS ABOUT.DO WE HAVE TO DO SOME KIND OF THING HERE TO ACCEPT THOSE? WE BUY THE PAPER FROM, WE BUY THE PAPER.
THINK SO THAT'S NORMALLY HOW THAT WORKS.
IS THE PAPER CHEAPER? YOU BUY SO MUCH.
IS THE PAPER CHEAPER DOING THEM? BECAUSE YOU KNOW, THEY'RE NOT REALLY FREE.
THEY JUST WANT YOU TO BUY THE PAPER.
SO DID THEY GIVE US A, DID THEY GIVE US A GUARANTEED TIME PERIOD THAT WE CAN BUY THE PAPER FOR THAT PRICE? NO, THAT ALL THAT STUFF'S CONTRACTED THROUGH THE STATE.
ALL THAT PRICING'S CONTRACTED THE TOWN ARE CHEAPER THAN MULTI VOTE TOWNS.
WELL, COULDN'T THING ONE TOWER.
GET WHY NOT YOUR HANDS CLEAN WHEN YOU, THERE YOU GO.
UH, WE WERE AT, WE BUDGETED 28 5 AND HOW MUCH WE, I'M SURE WE'RE MUCH MORE THAN WHAT WE'RE NOW.
NO, NO, WE'RE UNDER THAT BUDGET.
WHERE ARE WE SPENT? 15 5 6 15 5.
ARE YOU COMFORTABLE WITH THAT OR YOU TAKE LESS OR TAKE MORE OR, UM, I'D LIKE TO STAY WITH THAT RIGHT NOW.
BUT I'M WORKING ON REDUCING THAT.
WE MOVED ALL, JUST SO YOU KNOW, WE, I'VE SOME COMPLAINTS ABOUT THIS.
I MEAN, LAKE COURTHOUSE VERY UPSET.
CALL HIM SHE'S AFRAID WAS GONNA RUN OUTTA TOILET PAPER.
AND SO ANYWAY, THAT'S ENOUGH SAID.
BUT SO WHAT I DID IS I MOVED IT ALL OVER TO THE SOUTH CAMPUS.
IT'S LOCKED UP WHEN IT, WHEN THE NEW STUFF GETS DROPPED OFF, ALICIA, SHE GOES BACK THERE.
SHE CHECKS EVERYTHING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'VE GOT WHAT WE ORDERED.
WE RECEIVE WHAT WE ORDERED AND THEN SHE STOCKS 'EM ON THE SHELVES ON JANITORS.
WHEN THEY COME TO PICK STUFF UP, THEY SIGN OUT WHAT THEY TOOK AND WHERE THEY TOOK IT.
YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? SO WE HAVE A TRACKING SYSTEM OF WHERE IT'S GOING, HOW MUCH IS BEING USED, WHERE THE HEAVY HITTERS ARE, BUT ALSO ALSO HEAVY.
YOU KNOW, SHE WAS CONCERNED ABOUT, SHE WAS CONCERNED ABOUT RUNNING THAT TOILET PAPER BUT S ON TOP OF MAKING SURE THAT THAT STUFF WE'RE RIGHT DOWN THE ROAD FOR ONE.
SO I MEAN IF IT RUNS OUT, I MEAN IT BETTER OR NOT EVER RUN OUT.
BUT IF IT DID WE'RE RIGHT DOWN THE ROAD, IT WAS GREAT CONCERN.
LEMME TELL YOU THOUGH, THAT THAT COULD BE A CONCERN.
YEARS AGO WE HAD A PROBLEM WITH SOME VIRTUAL TOILET PAPER AND PAPER TOWELS WALKING OUT THE DOOR.
THERE'S NO TOILET PAPER IN THERE.
YEAH, DO WHAT? WHAT'D YOU SAY? MEDICAL SUPPLY NUMBER? WE HAD 19, I WAS PROPOSING 3,500.
OH MEDICAL SUPPLIES FOR MEDICAL SUPPLIES FOR THE WHOLE DAMAGE.
WELL GOING UP FROM 19 TO 3,500.
YOU DON'T HAVE THAT ON HERE UHUH? NO.
YOU TALKING ABOUT FOR THE COUNTY? YEAH, IT CUT OFF.
SO WHAT DO YOU THAT WAS, I WAS PROPOSING 3,500 FOR THE COUNTY.
YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? BECAUSE RIGHT NOW WE'RE DOING SOUTH CAMPUS, THE COURTHOUSE ANNEX AND THEN NOT YOU.
YOU'RE SHARING MINE AT MY OFFICE.
BUT YOU'VE GOT ONE EXTRA COUNTY LAW.
I KNOW WE DON'T, YOU DON'T HAVE A OFFICE MEAN A MEDICAL SUPPLIES? WELL IF IT IS, IT'S IN THE JUDGE'S OFFICE.
BUT MY DEAL WAS IS I WAS PROPOSING IT BECAUSE I'M GETTING HALF THE BILLS FOR, FOR SOME OF 'EM, THE OTHER HALF I'M NOT.
SO IF IT ALL JUST CAME INTO ONE, WE CAN MANAGE IT.
YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? WELL THAT WOULD GET A BETTER HANDLE ON IT AS TO WHAT WAS ACTUALLY BEING SPENT.
KIND OF LIKE THE JANITORIAL SUPPLIES.
YOU, WE ARE NOT INVOLVED IN IT ANYMORE, WHICH IS NICE.
I MEAN, NOT JUST FOR US, BUT IT, IT KIND OF DIDN'T MAKE SENSE FOR US TO BE ORDERING FOR EVERYBODY.
YOU KNOW, HE, IF HE'S TAKING IT AND HE STOPPED PILING IT AND ISSUING AND OUT, HE SHOULD BE IN CONTROL OVER.
WELL JUST GIVES US A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF WHERE EVERYTHING'S GOING, YOU KNOW.
GIVE YOU, WHEN JACK GOT HERE, WE GOT BRAND WHITE DOOR.
WE DIDN'T HAVE PRETTY BAD SALES
DID WE TALK ABOUT JANITORIAL SUPPLY? YEAH, WE DID.
YEAH, WE'RE AT 15 FIVE RIGHT NOW.
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CONSTRUCTION SUPPLIES.UH, I KNOW THAT'S HARD TO PROJECT.
UH, AND WHEN YOU SAY CONSTRUCTION SUPPLIES, TIMECLOCK, SO BASICALLY WHAT IT IS, IS LIKE WHEN WE DO ELECTRICAL RUNS AND PLUMBING AND STUFF LIKE THAT, WHAT I'M, WHAT I'M WORKING ON DOING IS, IS I'M BUYING THE STANDARD STUFF THAT WE USE ACROSS THE, ACROSS THE BOARD, HAVE IT IN STOCK AT OUR FACILITY.
SO EVERY TIME WE NEED IT, WE DON'T NOT HAVE TO GO TO H GOING TO GO TO HOME DEPOT, YOU KNOW, AND BELIEVE IT OR NOT, YOU CAN BUY A LOT OF THIS STUFF A LOT CHEAPER IN ADVANCE IF YOU BUY IT LIKE OFF AMAZON AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
SO THAT WAS THE PLAN AND THE GOAL WAS TO ORDER THAT, YOU KNOW, ELECTRICAL BOXES, COVERS, SWITCHES, PLUGS, WIRE EVEN, YOU KNOW, AND HAVE THAT STUFF STOCK TO OUR LOCATION.
SO IF MR. BARBER SAYS, HEY, WE NEED TWO MORE ELECTRICAL OUTLETS, WE CAN GRAB THE STUFF OUTTA THE SHOP AND GO DO IT AGAIN.
SAVES TIME, MONEY, TIME, MONEY.
DON'T GET ME WRONG, ACE IS GREAT, BUT MAN HA THEY'RE A LITTLE MORE EXPENSIVE.
DO NOT BUY WIRE AT ACE, YOU KNOW, GO TO HOME DEPOT.
BUT I MEAN, THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO, YOU KNOW, FOR US TO GO TO HOME DEPOT TO GET STUFF TO GO TO KEN, YOU KNOW, WE'RE DRIVING 30 MINUTES THERE, 30 MINUTES BACK TO KAMAN.
WE GOTTA GO ANOTHER 20 MINUTES.
SO IT'S AN HOUR AND 20 MINUTES TO GO GET PARTS FROM HOME DEPOT TO COME BACK TO PRECINCT FOUR.
SO IF I CAN HAVE SOME OF THAT STUFF ON HIM.
DO YOU HAVE AN ACCOUNT WITH, UH, LOCK CAROL? I GUESS WE DO FOR ALL.
YEAH, I GUESS THERE'S STUFF A LOT THAT'S EXPENSIVE AND THEY'RE GOOD ABOUT SPECIALIZED STUFF.
YOU GET, THEY DON'T HAVE IT THERE.
IS KELLY ELECTRIC STILL IN TAR? YES, THEY ARE.
WE'VE ADJUSTED THAT BUDGET, WEED IT TO MAKE IT 7,000 INSTEAD OF 35 BECAUSE THEY'VE ALREADY SPENT LIKE $4,100.
SO SHOULD WE BUDGET 7,000 FOR NEXT YEAR? PROBABLY.
WELL, I PUT 85 BECAUSE WE'RE LOOKING AT GETTING ANOTHER TRUCK, ANOTHER VEHICLE FROM THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT, YOU KNOW, SO THAT'LL GIVE US THREE TRUCKS.
HOW, HOW DID HE PAY TOMMY TO USE HIS TRUCK? HE GETS THE CAR HOUSE.
IS THAT GOING AWAY? NO, THAT WILL ACTUALLY PUT ONE OF MY OTHER GUYS IN THE TRUCK MIGHT TO SELL IT IN THE THIRD PERSON OUT.
SO, UH, POSTAGE RENTAL, RET SUPPLIES.
I'M SURPRISED THAT'S UNDER YOUR BUDGET, BUT I GUESS IT'S, THAT WAS FRED'S.
OH, I, THAT'S, THAT'S FOR THE MILL.
IS THAT ABOUT, WHERE ARE WE ON THAT? I KNOW 6,000 1 0 9 IT LOOKS LIKE CUT BACK A LITTLE BIT.
WELL, WE, IT LOOKS LIKE WE'VE MADE QUARTERLY PAYMENTS OF ABOUT $3,000, WHICH THERE'S ONLY 6,200 LEFT IN THERE RIGHT NOW.
SO NOW WE HAVE TWO MORE PAYMENTS LEFT.
SO THAT'D BE RUNNING ABOUT RIGHT.
WELL THAT'S, THAT'S CONTRACT MOLLY, MILEAGE MILL CONTRACTORS.
LO UH, I KNOW YOU DON'T GO MANY PLACES, BUT A THOUSAND BUCKS.
I, IF YOU SPEND ANYTHING OR NOT.
I HAVE NOT CHARGED, I GUESS HAD TO GO OFF AND PICK UP A PIECE OF EQUIPMENT OR SOMETHING MEANT TONIGHT, OR WE WENT TO TRAIN, I THINK WE CHARGED SOME TOW ROAD USAGE ON THE CAMERA.
WHILE WE'VE GOT IT A LITTLE BIT, UH, TELL WHAT YOU AND TOMMY DID ON THE CAMERAS.
I THINK THE COURT WILL FIND THIS, UH, INTERESTING.
SO WE FOUND, YOU KNOW, UH, WE'RE WORKING WITH THE CCTV BREAK FIX STUFF, SO IF A CAMERA GOES DOWN OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
ALSO WE'VE UPDATED THE CCTVS AT, UH, PRECINCT TWO AND PRECINCT TWO, COUNTY BARN AND JP ONE.
BUT WHAT WE DID, UH, I, I GOT ONLINE AND I FOUND THAT, UH, GEOVISION IS ONE OF OUR BIGGEST, THAT'S WHO GEORGE USES, THAT'S WHO HE RECOMMENDED US STAY WITH.
SO WE FOUND SOME TRAINING CLASSES AND THEY WERE ACTUALLY FREE.
SO WE ACTUALLY GOT CERTIFIED THREE CERTIFICATIONS FROM GEOVISION WITH SOME FREE TRAINING.
ALL WE HAD TO DO WAS DRIVE THERE.
SO, AND BASICALLY THAT GIVES YOU THE, I MEAN, WHATEVER YOU HAVE TO HAVE YOU GOT THE TRAINING AND RIGHT.
SO WE HAVE THE INSTALL, WE HAVE THE MANAGEMENT, AND WE HAVE THE ACCESS CONTROLS.
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SO WE, WE WERE ACTUALLY CERTIFIED THROUGH GEOVISION TO INSTALL THEIR PRODUCTS, TO MANAGE IT AND TO DO THE ACCESS CONTROL, WHICH THE ONLY THREE IN THE COUNTY THAT DO HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO DO THAT.UH, AND WE'LL, WE'LL PROBABLY HAVE ANOTHER DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT LATER ON, BUT IT, THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S BEEN VERY FRUSTRATING ABOUT, PEOPLE WOULD CALL ABOUT THEIR CAMERAS NOT WORKING AND SIX MONTHS LATER THE SEAL WASN'T WORKING AND THEY GET MAD.
YOU KNOW, SO, UH, BUT NOW I THINK WE'RE SLOWLY MAKING HEADWAY LY THE SAME WAY WITH PHONES TOO.
JUST SO YOU KNOW, THE PHONES HAVE BEEN AN ISSUE FOR A LONG TIME.
AND YOU KNOW, ONE THING THAT WE'RE, WE'RE DOING IS WE'RE USING SHI, WHICH IS SHI IS ACTUALLY A COMPANY THAT WON THE CONTRACT WITH THE STATE OF TEXAS.
SO WE'RE PIGGYBACKING OFF THE STATE OF TEXAS'S CONTRACT FOR THE, THAT PRODUCT.
SO SUPPOSEDLY WE'RE GETTING THE BEST PRICES WE CAN GET FOR THIS PRODUCT THROUGH SHI.
HAS THE PAPERWORK BEEN FILED FOR, UM, AN INTER LEVEL TO DO THAT? TO PIGGYBACK OFF OF? I DON'T KNOW.
GEORGE'S THE ONE THAT GAVE ME THAT INFORMATION AND GAVE ME THEIR CONTACT AND SAID, THIS IS WHERE YOU NEED TO BUY THE STUFF FROM.
SO THAT'S WHERE WE'VE BEEN BUY, I MEAN, IF WE'RE UNDER A DOLLAR AMOUNT, IT'S NOT THAT BIG OF A DEAL, BUT IF WE SEE THAT WE NEED TO MAKE SURE ALL THE LEGALITIES ARE IN PLACE.
IF WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO USE AN INTEROP, I'D HAVE TO TALK TO GEORGE BECAUSE IT STILL HAS TO GO BE APPROVED FOR COURT AND HAVE TO LOOK AT IT.
I MEAN, I THINK THAT'S A WONDERFUL THING TO UTILIZE TO WHERE YOU DON'T HAVE TO GO THROUGH MORE WORK THAT'S ALREADY BEEN DONE.
AND THEN ON THE, UH, THE NEXT THREE WHERE YOU ZEROED OUT, WE DISCUSSED THAT ABOUT, UH, WHERE WE'VE SHIFTED THAT TOO, RIGHT? UH, REPAIRS COUNTY PROPERTY, UH, YOU SEE HOW THAT HAS, UH, I KNOW WE'VE SPENT MORE THAN 88,000 I THINK AT THIS POINT WE'RE SITTING AT 95,000.
AND WE HAD 12,500 ENCUMBERED, BUT IT HADN'T BEEN SPENT YET.
UH, A LOT OF IT'S GONNA BE USED DOWNSTAIRS, UH, FOR THE REMODELING OF THE YES.
AND, UH, ALSO WE, WE PLANNED ON PAYING THE EXTERIOR OF THIS BUILDING.
UH, WHETHER WE GET TO THAT THIS YEAR OR THE NEXT YEAR, I'M NOT SURE.
YOU MIGHT WANT TO TALK TO THE COURT ABOUT WHY YOU, WHY YOU'VE GOT GOING ON.
SO THE COMMISSIONER'S C ROOM, RIGHT NOW WE'RE WAITING ON THE STRUCTURAL DRAWING.
THEY DID ALL THE ARCHITECTURAL WORK.
NOW WE'RE WAITING ON THE STRUCTURAL DRAWINGS.
SO AS SOON AS WE GET THOSE STRUCTURAL DRAWINGS ALONG WITH THE ARCHITECTURE WORK, I'LL GET WITH LISA AND WE'LL START GETTING IT OUT, GETTING THE STRUCTURAL WORK DONE AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
HE'S PROPOSING THAT HE WILL HAVE SOMETHING TO ME BY FRIDAY, IS WHAT JUAN OVER AT, UM, ENGINEERING FIRM SAID.
BUT, BUT FOR THE EXTERIOR BUILDING OF THE ANNEX, BASICALLY WHAT WE WERE DOING WAS, IS I GOT SOME QUOTES ON THAT AND CAME UP WITH A QUOTE OF $25,000 TO REPAINT THE WHOLE OUTSIDE OF THAT BUILDING.
UM, WHICH WAS ABOUT LAST TIME IT WAS 70 SOMETHING THOUSAND, 70,000 I THINK, OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT OUTSIDE OF THAT.
IT WAS DONE SEVERAL YEARS AGO.
I MEAN, I'VE HEARD NOTHING BUT COMPLAINTS ABOUT IT SINCE IT WAS FIRST DONE.
WHAT DONE 10, 12 YEARS AGO, ANDY? PROBABLY.
AND THAT'D BE THE ONLY CONCERN.
WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THE PAINT WE'RE GETTING IS THIS MASONRY PAINT THAT DOESN'T BE PAID.
AND THERE'S A LOT DIFFERENCE IN THE COST OF THERE.
BUT THEN THE NEXT THING WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO DO TO DO IT TODAY, BUT WE GONNA TAKE DOWN THESE METAL, WHATEVER YOU CALL 'EM, YOU KNOW, I THINK WE, THAT'S ONLY WAY WE KEEP THEM IN JUMPING OUT THE WINDOW THERE.
SHE GETS CRANKY WHEN YOU, BUT, UM, ON THE, ON THE BUILDING ITSELF, THE, UH, EXTERIOR PAINT.
HE CAME OUT AND WALKED IT, LOOKED AT IT.
HE SAID HE COULD DO IT FOR 25.
WHICH OBVIOUSLY THAT'S JUST ONE QUOTE.
WE'LL GET ADDITIONAL QUOTES AS WELL.
SO YOU, WE GOT THE PROJECT DOWNSTAIRS AND YOU WANT TO TELL 'EM WHAT YOU'VE BEEN DOING ACROSS THE STREET AT THE LIBRARY? LIBRARY? THE OLD LIBRARY? YEAH, THE OLD LIBRARY.
ALL THE DA'S FILES ARE STILL LOCATED AT THE TOP AT THAT BUILDING UP THERE.
WE, WE MOVED, UH, WE MOVED EVERYTHING WE CAN MOVE RIGHT NOW.
UM, WE HAD TO GO BACK AND GET THEM THE DA'S OFFICE AND THEY
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BACKED OVER THERE.BASICALLY THEY HAD A BUNCH OF BOXES THAT THEY WERE REORGANIZING.
SO THEY HAD A TON OF BOXES OPENED UP, FILE SITTING ON TOP OF THEM.
WE MOVED EVERYTHING THAT WAS SEALED UP CLOSED.
IT'S OVER IN THE FOUR BUILDING NOW.
SHE WAS WORKING THIS WEEK ON GETTING THAT CLEANED BACK UP OR FINISH AND ORGANIZING HER STUFF.
SHE'D SEAL 'EM BACK UP AND THEN WE'LL LOAD 'EM UP AND CARRY 'EM OVER THERE EARLY NEXT WEEK.
SHE HAD MENTIONED THAT SOME OF THE MISDEMEANOR CASES PROBABLY COULD BE SHREDDED.
AND THERE'S QUITE A FEW MISDEMEANOR CASES OVER THERE, BUT SHE SAID, I THINK MAYBE SECOND DEGREE FELONIES UP, NOT, NOT DEAL OR SOMETHING.
BUT WE DID, WHAT WE DID FIND OUT IS THAT THAT BUILDING OVER THERE, THERE'S SOME, THERE'S SOME IVY THAT HAS GROWN UP ON THE BACK SIDE OF THE BUILDING, NOT OUR SIDE.
YOU KNOW, THAT'S ALL ONE BUILDING BASICALLY.
BUT OUR NEIGHBORS TO THE LEFT OF US HAVE AN IVY THAT'S GROWN UP ON THE BACK OF THE BUILDING.
THEY DIDN'T, WELL THEIR IVY CRAWLED ACROSS OUR BUILDING AND THIS WENT UP TO THE TOP.
WELL, ANTS HAD CRAWLED UP THAT IVY AND THEY HAVE ATE THROUGH THE FOAM ROOF THAT'S UP THERE.
SO NOW WE, WE'VE GOT A PRETTY GOOD LEAK THAT LEAKS DOWN THROUGH THERE.
SO WE WENT IN, WE KILLED THE BLACK MOLD, WE GOT ALL THAT STUFF REMOVED.
BUT I DID GET, UH, TACK, HAVE YOU HEARD BACK FROM THEM? I WAS GONNA ASK YOU IF YOU HAD, 'CAUSE IF YOU HAVEN'T ALL FOLLOW UP.
WE GOT TACKS COMING UP AND THEY CAME AND DID AN ESTIMATE.
WELL ACTUALLY THEY CAME AND LOOKED AT ALL THE BUILDINGS IN DOWNTOWN.
THEY LOOKED AT THE COURTHOUSE, THE ANNEX, UH, THE JUVENILE PROBATION AND THE OLD LIBRARY.
AND UH, HE ACTUALLY FOUND QUITE A BIT OF DAMAGE ALL AROUND THESE BUILDINGS FROM HELL.
AND THE WAY HE WAS TALKING THE ANNEX WAS PROBABLY THE WORST ONE.
SO THERE'S A POT QUITE POSSIBLE THAT WE MAY BE GETTING NEW ROOFS ON QUITE A FEW OF THE NEW BUILDING.
NOW THIS, WHEN YOU SAY THE BLACK MOLD DOES, DID, DID YOU HAVE THAT DONE OR YOU DID IT? NO, WE TOOK CARE OF IT.
AND DOES TAT KNOW YOU DID THAT? I, I WOULDN'T TELL HIM.
I WOULDN'T OFFER THAT INFORMATION.
I'M JUST SAYING BLACK MOLDS EVERYWHERE.
I KNOW, BUT I'M JUST SAYING I IN TEXAS.
I WOULDN'T JUST OFFER THAT INFORMATION OUT TO, ANYWAY, IT'S ON IT.
THE ADULT PROBATION IS READY TO MOVE.
WHAT ABOUT KILLING IVY FOR THE NEIGHBOR? SAID WE COULD DO THAT.
YEAH, WELL KEEP EVERYTHING HAPPENING AGAIN.
WE'RE WORKING ON THAT AS WELL.
THE WENT OVER THERE AND CUT IT THE OTHER DAY.
HE'S GONNA LET IT DIE OFF A LITTLE BIT AND THEN WE'RE HOOK IT UP TO THE TRUCK BUILDING BUILDING.
MAYBE I SHOULD PULL IT OFF THE BUILDING.
SO, SO BOBBY, WHEN YOU CONTACTED, DID THEY ACTUALLY COME LOOK AT THE HAIL DAMAGE ON THAT ROOF YET? YES, THEY DID COME.
AND SO THE LEAK THAT YOU SAID WAS FROM THE ANTS? THE ANTS NOT THE HAIL.
THERE IS SOME HAIL DAMAGE ON IT.
BUT YOU HAVEN'T GOTTEN A QUOTE? NO MA'AM.
I DID GET A QUOTE, I DID GET A QUOTE TO PREPARE IT, BUT I HAVE NOT HEARD BACK FROM TA ABOUT HOW MUCH THEY'LL PAY ON IT.
THE QUOTES REPAIRED FOR 7,200 ON THE OLD LIBRARY.
AND JUST SO YOU WILL KNOW THE FORMER UH, CLIENT, FORMER OWNER OF THE, WELL NOT FORMER OWNER, THE BUSINESS TO THE, AS YOU LOOK AT THE LIBRARY TO THE LEFT, TO THE WEST, THAT IS IN PORTFOLIO MA'AM.
AND I WAS CONTACTED BY THE UH, FIRST NATIONAL BANKER OF KEMP, WHICH HAS THE NOTE ON THAT BUILDING.
AND UH, THEY WANTED TO KNOW IF WE WERE INTERESTED IN THE BUILDING AND I SAID, I DUNNO, HOW MUCH IS IT? WE'RE YOU, THERE'S A POSSIBILITY THAT NIGHT THAT I KNOW IT'S GONNA BECOME AVAILABLE.
UH, BUT HOW MUCH THEY'RE GONNA WANT ALL THAT I TALKED TO HE PRETTY ANXIOUS TO GET THE NO, I THINK Y'ALL DONATED.
IS IT UH, JOHNNY COMES ON? YEAH.
JOHN, YEAH, JOHN NAME JONES I THINK IS HIS NAME.
SO, UH, WE ALSO, ANGIE I BELIEVE HELPED ME ON THIS, I BELIEVE WHENEVER WE SETTLED THE CONES LAWSUIT, WE ALSO PUT A, UH, A CLAIM ON, UH, A, WHAT DO YOU CALL IT? YOU DID AN ABSTRACT OF JUDGMENT.
AN ABSTRACT JUDGMENT ON ALL THE PROPERTIES THAT, UH, IS OWNED.
AND SO WE ALSO HAVE AN ABSTRACTIVE JUDGMENT ON THAT BUILDING.
BECAUSE WE'VE GOT $40,000 OR SO WHENEVER THEY FORECLOSE
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ON JULY 4TH, THE ONLY WAY THE COUNTY WOULD GET ANYTHING OUT OF THAT.IF SOMEONE CAME AND BOUGHT THAT PROPERTY FOR MORE THAN THE BANK WAS OWED, THEN THEY WOULD GET, NOT GET SOME MONEY OUT OF BANK, GONNA GET THEIR MONEY.
BANKS GET THEIR RIGHT, THEIR FIRST LIEN.
SO THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY, IF IT JUST GETS FORECLOSED ON AND THE BANK TAKES IT BACK, THEN WE WOULDN'T GET ANYTHING FROM THAT.
BUT SHE HAS BOXES OF PROPERTY.
WE'D SURPRISED THERE A QUITE A FEW PIECES OF TIES.
THERE MAY BE MONTHS BEFORE ANYTHING HAPPENS ON.
UM, GONNA ASK A RIGHT QUESTION FOR THAT.
REPAIRS, UM, YOU'LL NOTICE THAT FROM THE ADOPTED SAYS THE REVISED, THERE'S A $12,000 INCREASE.
THAT'S BECAUSE OF THOSE TAX REIMBURSEMENTS.
YOU GUYS WANT TO KEEP IT AT THAT 12, UH, TWO 12 OR SINCE THAT'S BEEN INCREASED THIS YEAR, WE'RE GONNA NEED MORE.
THAT PROBABLY WE DO IT DOWNSTAIRS.
I GUESS THAT JUST KIND OF RANDOM.
AND THE LIST THEY GAVE US FROM COURT, WHAT'S THAT, THAT LIST, THAT TACK DID ALL THE REPAIRS.
OH YEAH, THAT'S A HUGE'S HUGE LIST.
WELL IF WE DO THAT LIST, WELL I THINK WE, I THINK WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO COME BACK AND REVISIT THAT NUMBER FOR REPAIRS TO NO, I THINK SO.
PROBABLY BECAUSE IT'S, IT'S, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, YEAH, I WOULD SAY 500,000 WOULD BE A GOOD NUMBER.
AND I THINK LAST YEAR YOU PREPARED A LIST OF THE DIFFERENT PROJECTS YOU WANTED TO DO.
AND THEN WE ADDED A LITTLE EXTRA THAT WE HAD IN THERE AND THEN WE GOT INSURANCE MONEY.
SO THAT'S PROBABLY, YOU JUDGE, PROBABLY NEED TO THINK ABOUT THE DIFFERENT OR THE COURT, THINK ABOUT THE AREAS YOU WANT TO WORK ON.
AND THAT'S WHAT WE'VE TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT.
THE BODY'S GONNA KIND OF MAKE A LIST TO PRIORIT, HAVE PRIORITIZE LIST TO LOOK AT.
YEAH, BUT I WOULDN'T BE SURPRISED IF THAT NUMBER DIDN'T GO UP.
DEPENDING IF WE GET SOME HELP ON THE ROOF, IT MAY NOT GO UP TOO MUCH.
BUT SOMETHING ELSE JUDGE, Y'ALL PROBABLY NEED TO, ON THE SUB COURT HOUSES, WE PROBABLY NEED TO PUT AN EQUAL AMOUNT FOR EACH SUB COURT HOUSE BECAUSE ONE THAT'S SPENDING ALL OF IT ON ONE AND THEN SOMEBODY ELSE NEEDS SOMETHING DONE TO THE COURTROOM OR SOMETHING.
SOMETIMES YOU GO OVER HERE AND YOU DON'T NEED ANYTHING.
WELL FOR WE'LL LEAVE THAT UP TO HIM.
THAT'S HIS, THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING.
HE GOING, I REPAIR COUNTY PROPERTY.
I MEAN IT'S AT YOUR OFFICE, YOUR OFFICE.
IT DON'T MATTER WHERE IT'S AT MOST, WHICH ONE NEEDS IT.
WELL WE DO HAVE OWN, WE DO HAVE THERE, WE DO HAVE SUB COURTHOUSE IMPROVEMENTS WE'LL GET TO IN A MINUTE.
LET'S TALK ABOUT UH, AIR CONDITIONING AND HEATING.
WHERE ARE WE ON AIR CONDITIONING AND HEATING NOW? I KNOW WE ARE NOT SPENDING NEAR THE AMOUNT WE HAVE BEEN SPENDING.
NO, THAT'S BEEN A GREAT, GREAT DEAL.
THAT CONTRACT 34,800 DOWN HALF THE BUDGET.
ALL THE UH, ROUTINE QUARTERLY MAINTENANCE, ALL BECAUSE THEY ADDED THAT TO THE, THE BID THIS LAST TIME, LAST FULL ROUND.
THAT INCLUDES ALL THE ROUTINE CHEAP CHANGES, BELTS, CONTACTORS, CHEAP FREON LEVELS CHECKED.
I THINK JUST LEAVE THAT LIKE IT IS BECAUSE YOU NEVER KNOW WHEN WE'RE GOING.
HAVE A BIG UNIT GO OUT SOMEPLACE.
WELL WE DO HAVE ONE AT THE COURTHOUSE OUT RIGHT NOW.
DID WE FIND OUT WHETHER STILL IN ONE HERE OR NOT? THE COMPRESSOR? NO.
YEAH, HE SAID IT WASN'T HAVE TO COME BACK, BUT HE WAS, HE DID GET A PRICE.
BUT HE HAS OKAY ONE COMPRESSOR, THERE'S FISH.
KNOW THAT CHILLER UNIT UP THERE HAS SIX COMPRESSORS ON IT AND THEY CYCLE FROM ONE COMPRESSOR TO ANOTHER, COMPRESSOR TO ANOTHER.
SO IT'S BASICALLY USING SIX COMPRESSORS TO RUN THAT THING.
AND IT CYCLES ABOUT EVERY THREE TO FOUR MINUTES FROM ONE COMPRESSOR TO THE NEXT TO THE NEXT.
OR COMPRESSOR THREE ON THE B SIDE WENT OUT.
LUCKILY ENOUGH WE CAUGHT IT BEFORE IT ACTUALLY WENT OUT.
RIGHT NOW IT IS JUST LIKE THE ONE YOU HEARD UP THERE.
IT WAS DOING THE SAME THING I THINK JUST SCREAMING RIGHT NOW.
SO BASICALLY WHAT WE DID IS WE JUST DISCONNECTED IT.
SO IT'S RUNNING ON FIVE COMPRESSORS RIGHT NOW.
IT'S MAINTAINING TEMPERATURE AND ALL THAT.
BUT FOR EFFICIENCY WE NEED TO GET THAT.
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WE BUSTED 25,000.UH, WHERE ARE WE ON THAT? OH, WE'RE AT 61 0 7.
SO WE GOT SOME MONEY FOR OUR SOUTHERN COURTHOUSE IMPROVEMENTS.
I KNOW ONE THING, BUT THAT SOME REQUEST FOR SOME, UH, PAVING OVER AT THE PRECINCT.
THREE, UH, SUB COURTHOUSE THERE WHERE THE EMPLOYEES PARK.
AND I DON'T HAVE ANY IDEA WHAT THAT WOULD COST.
AND FOUR AND FOUR ON THE LIST AND FLAG.
OH WELL FLAG POLE'S COMING IN THE OTHER, WELL WE HADN'T DONE ANYTHING WITH IT.
I GOT A QUOTE FROM TEXAS SIGN, I THINK IT WAS, I HAD GOTTEN HIS NUMBER FROM PAUL PREVIOUSLY.
I'VE NEVER DONE FLAG POSTS, SO I DON'T KNOW WHO TO TALK TO ABOUT DOING IT.
UM, BUT PAUL HAD GIVEN ME A NUMBER TO TEXAS SIGN OR OUT PO UL TREE OR SOMETHING.
THAT WAS THE ONE THAT WAS EXTREMELY HIGH.
THAT WAS INSTALLATION I THINK.
THAT WAS INSTALLATION ALL, BUT HE WAS STILL CHARGING US MORE THAN DOUBLE WHAT WE CAN BUY THE BLACK HOLES FOR.
AND YOU, YOU GOT ANOTHER PRICE I THINK? YEAH.
WELL HE CAME TO ONE, WE JUST HAPPENED TO BE DISCUSSING HIM DOING THE REPAIRS AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF.
AND UH, HE SAID, YOU KNOW, I GOT A CATALOG ON THAT.
AND HE, AND HE WENT DOWNSTAIRS AND DONE SOME, GOT SOME NUMBERS TOGETHER AND BROUGHT 'EM BACK AND WAS JUST JOHNNY ON THE SPOT WITH LIKE I SAID, LESS THAN HALF.
BUT I TELL YOU, I THINK I TOLD YOU MY STORY ABOUT THE FLAG POLE WHEN I WAS IN THE SCHOOL WITH, WE HAD A FLAG POLE.
WE, I DON'T REMEMBER WHAT HAPPENED WITH IT.
SO ANYWAY, WE HAD TO GET NEW FLAG POLE.
SO YEAH, WE WENT TO DALLAS PO FLAG PO THEN PROBLEM WAS, HOW'D YOU GET IT IN DALLAS? TERRIBLE
SO WE PUT IT IN THE SCHOOL BUS AND HAD IT ALL THE WAY UP TO THE FRONT AND THEN HAD ABOUT SIX OR EIGHT FEET STICKING OUT THE BACK AND PUT A RED TIE AROUND IT, WATER AROUND IT AND HAD SOMEBODY FOLLOW IT.
I'M SURE THAT CAUSED BEEN PROBABLY THROWN IN JAIL, BUT WE GOT IT AND WE INSTALLED IT OURSELVES.
THAT WAS, I SAY WE, THEY INSTALLED IT.
THE UH, WE HAD A LONG TRAILER PUSHING.
WE WOULDN'T HAVE THAT PROBLEM HERE.
LIKE A ING LIKE WE ON THAT FLAG TOO WAS DOING ALL THE CONCRETE WORK AT THE TURTLE SUB CORD, YOU KNOW, BASICALLY WHERE THE FLAG POLE.
WELL WHAT FLAG POLE IS THERE? IT'S OFF TO THE FAR LEFT OF THE BUILDING.
BUILDING IF YOU'RE LOOKING, FACING THE BUILDING.
IF YOU NEED A FLAG POLE THERE.
SO WHAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT DOING WAS MOVING THE FLAG POLE TO THE CENTER OF THE BUILDING.
SO HE WAS GONNA CUT THAT CONCRETE OUT RIGHT THERE, PUT NEW CON, I MEAN PUT NEW FLAG POLE IN, POUR THE CONCRETE BACK AND PUT CONCRETE BOLLARDS AROUND THAT SO PEOPLE CAN'T RUN INTO, AND THAT WAS IN HIS BID THAT WAS INCLUDED.
SO IT WASN'T JUST THE RIGHT WASN'T JUST A FLAG POLE.
HOW MUCH WAS IT? I DON'T REMEMBER.
IT WAS, WELL IT WAS FIVE OR 6,000 FOR THE TERRA ONE AND THREE OR 4,000 FOR THE ONE IN HOW MUCH? THE POLE, THE POLES.
I, I'D HAVE TO HIS EXPENSIVE HIS POLES, BUT, AND HIS POLES BASED ON THE ITEM NUMBER THAT HE PUT ON HIS BED ARE THE EXACT SAME POLES THAT ROBERT FOUND.
AND THE FLAG POLES THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ARE THE, THEY'RE THE ONES THAT HAVE ALL THE MECHANISMS ON THE INSIDE SO IT'S LOCKED.
SO YOU CAN'T, YOU KNOW, THERE'S NO ACCESS TO PULL THE FLAGS DOWN AND CUT THE ROPE, PULL THEM DOWN.
SO, WELL I DON'T KNOW WHETHER YOU KNOW THAT IF WE HAD TO HIRE SOMEBODY TO ERECT THE FLAG HOLE, YOU PROBABLY DON'T, YOU KNOW, I DUNNO THAT YOU'D NEED TO BE IN THE FLAG HOLE ERECTING BUSINESS.
IT MAY NOT BE A BAD DEAL TO HIRE SOMEBODY, BUT LET'S CHECK OUT THAT PRICE AND YEAH, MAYBE WE CAN GET THE POSTS CHEAPER AND WE CAN HAVE HIM QUOTE PUT THEM IN.
THAT'S WHAT I WAS GONNA SUGGEST.
PUT I'M PUT IN THOSE BIG METAL THING, THOSE CONCRETE OUT EVERYTHING.
ANYWAY, THAT'S, THAT'S STATUS OF THEM.
SO ALL WORK IN PROGRESS WE COULD CHARGE THE FREE FOR IT, BUT, OKAY.
UH, UNIFORMS, UH, IS THAT THE MAINTENANCE 20 GRAND? YES SIR.
I WOULD LIKE TO TALK ABOUT OUR UNIFORMS. I, I KNOW WE HAVEN'T THAT MUCH ABOUT IT, BUT I'D LIKE TO GET SOME, SOME SHIRT OR SOMETHING FOR THE GUYS TO WHETHER, I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW IF WE WANT TO GO THROUGH THIS UNIFORMS COMPANY.
I KNOW LIKE LISA, I KNOW EVERYBODY'S FRUSTRATED WITH G AND KG AND K HAS NOW BEEN BOUGHT OUT BY CINTAS AND IT'S, IT'S, IT'S A BIG MESS.
MOST OF THESE GUYS ARE JUST FED UP WITH THEM AND THEY'RE FINE.
AND I WENT TO NORTH FREIGHT AND BOUGHT THE SHIRT $6 A PIECE.
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THAT'S WHAT WE EVEN FOUND, UH, ANGIE FOUND THE OTHER DAY.SHE GOT SOME, NOT ANGIE, BUT CASSIE FOUND SOME T-SHIRTS THE OTHER DAY THAT HAD THE, A SCREEN PRINT OF THE SILK SIX BUCKS THAT'S CHEAP.
SIX BUCKS AND THEY'VE GOT COLOR GALORE.
SO, WELL WHAT WE WERE EXPERIENCING WITH G AND KAY IS, YOU KNOW, WITH THE TYPE OF WORK WE DO, YOU GET PBC GLUE PRIMER, STUFF LIKE THAT.
AND MAN THEY CHARGE YOU EVERY TIME YOU GET A SPECK ON THAT SHIRT, YOU BOUGHT IT, YOU OWN IT A LOT OF MONEY AND THEN YOU HAVE TO TURN IT IN OR THEY CHARGE YOU
SO BASICALLY WHAT WE DID IS I JUST TOLD EVERYBODY, I SAID, HEY, WE'RE NOT GOING TO DO UNIFORMS RIGHT NOW.
NEXT BUDGET SIDE COMES AROUND, WE'LL TALK ABOUT IT AND WE'LL FIGURE SOMETHING OUT.
WELL YOU WANT TO KIND OF MAKE THAT ONE OF YOUR DEALS AND GET THE COMMISSIONERS INVOLVED IN IT AND SEE IF GET, ARE YOU, ARE YOU GUYS WANTING TO GO BACK WITH YOU WITH ORGANIZED UNIFORM COMPANY OR Y'ALL WANT DO YOUR I, I'M OKAY.
THAT'S WHAT MY JOB, THEY'RE HAPPY TRACTOR, A REALLY GOOD MEAL ON WRANGLERS, WHATEVER PIECE.
I MEAN I'LL DO WHATEVER Y'ALL WANT.
I I WAS JUST KIND OF HALF AND HALF.
'CAUSE WE GET OUR, STILL GET OUR PANTS FROM GNK OR CENSUS OR WHATEVER THEY ARE, WHICH WAS A HEADACHE.
'CAUSE I, I HAD ONE GUY, I HAD TO DEAL WITH HIS MECHANIC AND THEN SO, AND HE DIDN'T WANT TO TAKE ANYTHING HOME WITH CARCINOGENS ON IT TO WASH IT.
SO WE HAD TO, WE HAD TO WORK WITH IT.
SO I'VE GOT ONE GUY THAT'S DID HIS FULL UNIFORM WITH C AND K.
THE GUYS HAVE THEIR PANTS AND THEN WE BUY THE SHIRTS WITH THE REFLECTIVE STUFF TO BE ON THE ROAD.
SO WE HAD TO KIND OF, YOU KNOW, HALF AND HALF THE BILL TO MAKE IT WORK.
WELL AND ALSO WHAT ABOUT YOUR RUGS AND RAGS AND THINGS LIKE THAT? WE STILL GET THEM FROM GK.
WELL YOU GOT A DIRTY PARKING LOT.
I GOT THREE RUGS AND BUDDY THE SECOND FILTHY OUT THERE POWER WASHING THING GOING BACK DOWN.
SEE WE DON'T HAVE CONCRETE ASPHALT.
STILL HAVE ACROSS ROAD SO MUCH FOR THE DISCUSSION ON UNIFORM.
LIKE EVERYBODY'S DOING THEIR OWN THING.
LET'S JUST LEAVE THAT MAN IN THERE.
IT'S A SMALL AMOUNT WHATEVER ON PEST CONTROL.
I DON'T IF WE GOT PEST CONTROL, THAT PEST CONTROL LIBRARY, IS THERE ANY REASON WHY THAT HAS TO BE PROGRAM? YEAH.
UM, ACTUALLY YASMA HAS AN ANNUAL REPORT THAT SHE HAS TO DO AND IT HAS TO DO LIKE GARBAGE PICKUP, PEST CONTROL.
UH, AND IN FACT IT ALSO HAS JANITORIAL SERVICE.
BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT SHE HAS TO DO THAT.
BUT THERE IS A REASON WHY THAT.
SO WHERE ARE WE ON UH, PE CONTROL AS FAR AS COST? UH, THERE'S LIKE IN THE PAST IT'S BEEN AROUND 5,015 AND 16.
SO WE'RE AT 2335 ON THE FIRST ONE.
AND IS THAT ON A FOR CALL BASIS OR, UH, REGULAR MAINTENANCE? NO, NO, THEY COME OUT QUARTER.
THEY COME OUT LIKE EVERY THREE MONTHS.
WELL WE'VE GOT SOME NICE VISITING AT THE COURTHOUSE, SO THEY'RE YEAH, WE GOT ONE DAY.
WE YOU BETTER BE GLAD YOU NEED TO EAT LUNCH WITH HIM THAT DAY.
YEAH, I WAS PUTTING THAT ON THERE.
I'D LIKE TO ADD THE LINE ITEM BEFORE JUST ALARM MONITORING, YOU KNOW, AND ALARM, ALARM MONITORING FOR US MEANS FIRE ALARMS, YOU KNOW, UM, ANNEX SOUTH CAMPUS, UH, WAREHOUSE, ANYWHERE THAT HAS A FIRE SPRINKLER SYSTEM, IT HAS TO HAVE, IT HAS TO BE MONITORED 20 HOURS A DAY, SEVEN DAY A WEEK.
AND WHAT I LIKE TO DO, INSTEAD OF JUST CHARGING THIS TO LIKE REPAIR COUNTY PROPERTY, I WANT BREAK IT OUT SO WE CAN ACTUALLY SEE WHAT IT IS THAT WE'RE PAYING FOR ALARM MONITORING.
I MEAN THAT WAY IT'S NOT DUG IN WITH ALL THE OTHER STUFF.
SO WHAT I'M REALLY TRYING TO DO IS I WANT EVERYTHING THAT WE DO FOR THE PERISH COUNTY PROPERTY TO BE REPAIR PREPARED COUNTY PROPERTY.
IF IT'S NOT FOR COUNTY PROPERTY, I WANT IT BE IN ITS OWN LINE ITEM OR WHATEVER.
YOU GUYS KNOW WHAT IT IS WE'RE SPENDING, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? SO DID YOU HAVE A NUMBER FOR THAT? I DON'T, I WAS GONNA GET WITH KW AND SEE IF WE COULD FIGURE THAT OUT.
IF, IF THOSE, IF THOSE ARE THE ONES THAT ARE LIKE $50 A QUARTER, HOW MANY BUILDINGS THAT WE TALKING ABOUT? WELL, THEY'RE LIKE $89 OR 89 ANNEX SOUTH CAMPUS.
UM, I DON'T, I DON'T REMEMBER ALL THE OTHER
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WHY, WHY DON'T YOU GET WITH THEM AND GET, GIVE THEM, WE'LL GET AND THEN ON ALARM MONITOR, I MEAN ON CT CCTV UPGRADES AND BRAKE FIX.SO THIS IS CURRENTLY NOT IN OUR BUDGET AND I WAS CLOSING TO PUT THIS IN OUR BUDGET.
UM, SO ANYTIME LIKE THESE CAMERAS UP RIGHT NOW THEY'RE ON ON THE SQUARE RIGHT NOW.
WE'VE GOT CAMERAS ON THE ANNEX, WE'VE GOT CAMERAS ON THE WHOLE LIBRARY.
THERE'S SOME ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE MAIN COURTHOUSE.
I DUNNO WHAT THAT FIELD IS CALLED.
BUT ANYWAY, WE'VE GOT CAMERAS MONITORING ALL AROUND.
EVERY FACILITY WE HAVE HAS CAMERAS.
WHEN THESE CAMERAS GO BAD RIGHT NOW WE'RE JUST CHARGING THEM OUT OF REPAIR COUNTY PROPERTY AND I WOULD SUGGEST THAT WE TAKE PUT A C CT V LINE IN THERE.
THAT WAY WE CHARGE 'EM TO THAT LINE ITEM.
YOU KNOW, THAT WAY WE GET ACCURATE.
SO AT THIS POINT IN TIME, IF A DEPARTMENT IS OR BUILDING IS HAVING A PROBLEM WITH THEIR CAMERAS, THAT THOSE CALLS SHOULD BE SENT TO YOU? YEAH, SOME OF 'EM HAVE BEEN.
WHEREAS THEY HAVE BEEN WITH IT.
SO, UH, DO YOU THINK 30, $30,000 WILL YEAH, TOMMY AND I SPOKE AND, AND HE WAS WAY UP AND I WAS WAY DOWN.
SO WE KIND OF MET IN THE MIDDLE OF THE 30,000.
I MEAN THE 30,000 WOULD BE FOR A BREAK FIX, WHICH MEANS IF IT'S BROKE WE'LL GO REPLACE A NEW CAMERA.
UM, BUT FOR THE STUFF THAT NEEDS TOTAL REPLACEMENT, BECAUSE THERE'S QUITE A FEW FACILITIES THAT NEED A HUNDRED PERCENT UPGRADE.
UM, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT EVEN BE CLOSE, BUT WELL, WE'LL, WE'LL ADDRESS THAT WHEN WE GET, I KNOW WE'VE HAD PROBLEMS WITH PRECINCT THREE SUB TASKS.
I THINK YOU'VE GOT PRECINCT TWO UP AND DOWN.
WE'RE IN THE PROCESS RIGHT NOW.
JP ONE, THEY'VE BEEN OUT FOR LIKE TWO YEARS.
I, SO, UH, WELL, JAKE'S HIS BARN NEVER HAD IT.
WELL, WHAT I WOULD SUGGEST BEFORE WE JUST PUT, YOU KNOW, WE CAN PUT 30,000 IN FOR OUR PLACEHOLDER FOR TIME BEING, WHY DON'T YOU COME BACK AFTER YOU HAVE A SENSE TO A LITTLE MORE CHECKING AND WHEN HE DID BOB, GEORGE AND HIS DEPARTMENT TO KIND OF SEE WHERE THEY ARE, UH, AS WELL.
AND THEN, UH, LET'S PUT ENOUGH MONEY IN THERE TO GET STUFF UP AND GOING BECAUSE THAT'S, YOU KNOW, THAT'S OUR WORLD TODAY.
YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, I WISH WE'D HAD WORKING, UH, CAMERAS HERE TODAY.
WE HAD THE MARK, UH, DEAL THAT OUR EVERYBODY MM-HMM
AND THEN THE OTHER THING, UH, I DUNNO, UH, UH, THE PHONES RIGHT NOW CURRENTLY ARE BEING, UH, ADMINISTERED BY IT.
AND UH, I THINK THAT MAY BE SOMETHING WE WILL WANT TO VISIT WITH GEORGE ABOUT.
UH, TOMMY AND ALSO, UH, BOBBY ABOUT MOVING THE PHONE, UH, UH, SERVICE TO, UH, THE, UH, FACILITIES DEPARTMENT.
UM, I GET LOTS OF COMPLAINTS ON THE PHONE NOT WORKING AND NOT BEING ABLE TO HEAR ON 'EM.
AND, UH, IT SEEMS LIKE IT NEVER GETS FIXED, UH, IN A TIMELY MANNER.
OR WE, WE CALL SOMEBODY AND THEN IT JUST CONTINUES TO GO ON AND ON.
SO THAT'S NOT A, THAT'S NOT ON HERE RIGHT NOW.
THAT'S THE DISCUSSION I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A LITTLE BIT LATER ON WITH THE COURT.
UH, TALK ABOUT MOVING, UH, THE PHONES AND THE, UH, THE CAMERA SYSTEMS TO, UH, UH, MAINTENANCE
SO ANYBODY HAVE ANY COMMENTS ON THAT? WHAT IS, DOES IT NEED TO BE A STANDALONE DEPARTMENT OR WOULD IT BE, I MEAN, FACILITIES HAS GOT PRETTY, WELL WE COULD NOT ON THE PLATE, ONE GUY OVER, YOU KNOW, WE, I MEAN WE COULD DO IT EITHER WAY.
WE COULD COME IN WITH A, WITH A A, UH, A CAMERA AND A PHONE OR WHATEVER WE WANT TO CALL IT ANOTHER DEPARTMENT AND UH, OR WE COULD LEAVE IT IN HERE.
I MEAN IT'S KIND OF BE KIND LIKE IT TOO.
WELL, AND SOME OF OUR WIRING IS NOT IN THE BEST OF SHAPE.
MY OFFICE, I HAVE, I HAVE TWO PHONES, TWO PHONE NUMBERS, BUT THERE'S FOUR PHONE NUMBERS TO MAKE TWO PHONES WORK.
I MEAN, I RECEIVED ON MY PHONE I SEE A NUMBER THAT'S MY OFFICE, BUT IT'S NOT MY OFFICE PHONE.
PAYING FOUR, FOUR PHONE LINES.
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WE'LL, WE'LL TALK ABOUT HOUSING BUDGET.ANYBODY ELSE GOT ANY QUESTIONS? THANK YOU FOR YOUR THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU'RE DOING.
I KNOW YOU GUYS BUSY ALL THE TIME.
CONSTABLE STEVENS IS HERE AND WE'RE RUNNING A LOOP BEHIND.
I THINK EVERYBODY CAN BE, BE PLEASED ABOUT THAT.
UH, AND YOU HAVE A COPY OF HIS BUDGET AS WELL AS, UH, A NARRATIVE, UH, ABOUT IT.
SO, UH, IF YOU WANT, UH, LOOK AT THE, UH, BUDGET PART, WHICH IS THE ONE PAGE AND UH, UH, IT'S STARTING AT THE TOP.
UH, UH, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT DOING ANYTHING ON RIGHT NOW, BUT WE KNOW WHAT GONNA HAPPEN ON OUR BUDGET WITH OUR TAX BASE AND EVERYTHING.
JUST KIND OF PUTTING, TAKING NOTES WHEN WE GET OUR FINAL VALUE.
WE'LL ABLE TO MAKE MUCH BETTER DECISION ON THAT.
UH, PROFICIENCY PAY THAT'S FOR YOU? ANY OF YOUR DEPUTIES? I GUESS THAT, THAT LINE ITEM'S.
DO THE, I BELIEVE THE DEPUTY BILL.
UH, THEN THE CELL PHONE ALLOWANCE, UH, YOU ENTER YOUR, UH, YOUR ONE FULL-TIME VEHICLE? YES.
AND HE'S A WORKER? YES, I HEAR HIM ALL THE TIME.
I MEAN, HE IS OUT ABOUT ALL, MAKES ME SLOW DOWN.
I'M GOING TO MY FARM ON SATURDAY MORNING.
HOPEFULLY AFTER THIS BE FULL TIME.
WELL, I REALLY HAVE TO SLOW DOWN.
UH, SO, UH, NEXT YEAR ON THE, UH, EXTRA HELP, UH, YOU'RE WANTING TO GO TO 30,000? YES SIR.
PRECINCT TWO AND FOUR AND THE ADDITIONAL 10,000 WOULD BE FOR, UH, HOW DO YOU, WHAT DO YOU USE THAT MONEY FOR NOW? IT'S AT SALARY.
UH, SO THAT WOULD UH, THAT WOULD GO TOWARDS HIS SALARY? YES.
STILL PART-TIME, BUT MORE HOURS.
UH, QUESTIONS FROM ANYBODY? WE'RE GOING THROUGH THE FULL BUDGET, UH, THE OTHER ADAM'S OFFICE, UH, NOT OFFICE, BUT FOR A THOUSAND DOLLARS INCREASE TO GO 2000.
UH, BUT WHAT HAS BEEN SPENT THROUGH 4 0 6 42? 4 6 42 THROUGH TODAY.
SO DO YOU NEED A FULL EXTRA THOUSAND OR THOUSAND? NO.
PROBABLY THAT WE, YOU MIGHT HAVE SENT SOMETHING IN KEITH.
SO THAT SHOULD BE IT, BUT I'LL PROBABLY FINE WITH A THOUSAND.
WE'LL JUST GO BACK TO A THOUSAND ON THE, UH, AMMUNITION.
UH, YOU'RE 1250 AND, UH, I THINK COMMISSIONER, YOU TALKED, I THINK YOU SAID YOU HAD TALKED.
YEAH, I, ME, I MENTIONED YOU THE, ABOUT THE OTHER GUYS GETTING THEIR STUFF AT GT, DIDN'T IT? DID YOU CHECKED THEM? I, I HAVEN'T CHECKED BUT I'M GOING TO YET.
BECAUSE I THINK ALL THE OTHER GUYS WERE RIGHT AROUND A THOUSAND.
YOU KNOW WHAT THEY SAID IN THEIRS? YEAH.
BECAUSE THEY WERE GETTING IT FROM GT.
THEY WERE GETTING A LOT CHEAPER CHECKED.
WELL THAT, THAT GOT INCREASED BY THE COURT LAST WEEK.
IT WAS A THOUSAND IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN.
THE YEAR BEFORE IT WAS A THOUSAND I THINK.
AND THEN 1211 IT WENT TO 1250 AND 17 BECAUSE HE BOUGHT THIS, I THINK IT WAS THE 1211.
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SIX 16 WAS 1215.SO IT ACTUALLY INCREASED LAST, LAST YEAR.
THE OTHERS ARE A THOUSAND I THINK.
UH, LET'S SEE, I THINK IT'S CHAD HERE.
UH, PARKS AND REPAIRS, UH, LOOK LIKE YOU'RE ASKING FOR $10,000 INCREASE.
UH, AND THAT'S, I GUESS DUE TO THE AGE OF, UH, INCREASED TWO 10,000.
THAT EIGHT BECAUSE I'VE GOT OH, 650 SOMETHING MILES ON IT AND I'VE GOT AN NINE THAT'S GOT OVER 180 SOMETHING THOUSAND MILES ON IT.
I JUST HAD TO SPEND $10,000 IN PUTTING NEW CAMERAS IN BOTH OF THOSE CARS.