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OKAY.THEN THE, UH, NEXT ONE, THE SUB COURT HOUSE WE BUDGETED 25,000.
UH, WHERE ARE WE ON THAT? OH, WE'RE AT 61 0 7, 53 61 UHHUH.
SO WE GOT SOME MONEY FOR OUR SUB COURTHOUSE IMPROVEMENTS, UH, THAT IS AVAILABLE.
I KNOW ONE THING WE THAT SOME REQUEST FOR SOME, UH, PAVING OVER AT THE PRECINCT.
THREE, UH, SUB COURTHOUSE THERE, WHERE THE EMPLOYEES FOR, AND I DON'T HAVE ANY IDEA WHAT THAT WOULD COST.
FLAT HOLE'S COMING ISN'T, WELL, WE HADN'T DONE ANYTHING WITH IT.
I GOT A QUOTE FROM TEXAS SIGN, I THINK IT WAS, I HAD GOTTEN HIS NUMBER FROM PAUL PREVIOUSLY.
I'VE NEVER DONE FLAG POSTS, SO I DON'T KNOW WHO TO TALK TO ABOUT DOING IT.
UM, BUT PAUL HAD GAVE ME A NUMBER TO TEXAS SIGN.
THEY'RE OUT OF POULTRY OR SOMETHING.
THAT WAS THE ONE THAT WAS EXTREMELY HIGH.
THAT WAS INSTALLATION, I THINK.
THAT WAS INSTALLATION ALL, BUT HE WAS STILL CHARGING US MORE THAN DOUBLE WHAT WE CAN BUY THE BLACK HOLES FOR.
AND YOU, YOU GOT ANOTHER PRICE I THINK? YEAH.
WELL, HE CAME IN ONE DAY, WE JUST HAVING TO BE DISCUSSING HIM DOING THE REPAIRS AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF.
AND UH, HE SAID, YOU KNOW, I GOT A CATALOG ON THAT.
AND HE, AND HE WENT DOWNSTAIRS AND DONE SOME, GOT SOME NUMBERS TOGETHER AND BROUGHT 'EM BACK AND WAS JUST JOHNNY ON THE SPOT WITH, LIKE I SAID, LESS THAN HALF.
BUT I TELL YOU, I THINK I TOLD YOU MY STORY ABOUT THE FLAGPOLE WHEN I WAS IN SCHOOL WITH, WE HAD A FLAGPOLE WE, THAT I REMEMBER WHAT HAPPENED.
SO ANYWAY, WE HAD TO GET NEW FLAG COAT.
SO YEAH, WE WENT TO DALLAS WHOLE FLAT BOAT.
THEN PROBLEM WAS, HOW DO YOU GET IT FROM DALLAS? IT'S TERRIBLE.
SO WE PUT IT IN A SCHOOL BUS,
AND I'M SURE THE COST WOULD'VE BEEN STOPPED, PROBABLY THROWN IN JAIL.
BUT WE GOTTA TAKE DOWN AND WE INSTALLED IT OURSELVES THAT I SAY WE, THEY INSTALLED IT.
HOW TIE ON TOP THOUGH? THE, UH, WE HAD A LONG TRAILER PUSHING.
WE WOULDN'T HAVE THAT PROBLEM HERE.
LIKE A ING MEDIUM IN SOME OF, ON THAT FLAG POLE TOO, WAS DOING ALL THE CONCRETE WORK AT THE TURTLE.
YOU KNOW, BASICALLY WHERE THE FLAG POLE, WELL, WHAT FLAG POLE IS THERE? IT'S OFF TO THE FAR LEFT OF THE BUILDING IF YOU'RE LOOKING FACING THE BUILDING.
SO WHAT, WHAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT DOING WAS MOVING THE FLAG POLE TO THE CENTER OF THE BUILDING.
SO WE WAS GONNA CUT THAT CONCRETE OUT RIGHT THERE, PUT NEW CON, I MEAN PUT NEW FLAG POLE IN, POUR THE CONCRETE BACK AND PUT CONCRETE BOLLARDS AROUND THAT SO PEOPLE CAN'T RUN INTO, AND THAT WAS IN HIS BID THAT WAS INCLUDED.
SO IT WASN'T JUST THE, IT WASN'T JUST A FLAG POLE.
AND HOW MUCH WAS IT? I DON'T REMEMBER.
IT WAS, IT WAS FIVE OR 6,000 FOR THE TERRA ONE AND THREE OR 4,000 FOR THE ONE IN HOW MUCH? THE POLE, THE POLES.
HIS POLES, BUT, AND HIS POLES BASED ON THE ITEM NUMBER THAT HE PUT ON HIS BED ARE THE EXACT SAME POLES THAT ROBERT FOUND.
AND THE FLAT POLES THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ARE THE, THEY'RE THE ONES THAT HAVE ALL THE MECHANISMS ON THE INSIDE.
SO YOU CAN'T, YOU KNOW, THERE'S NO ACCESS TO PULL THE FLAGS DOWN AND CUT THE ROPE, PULL THEM DOWN.
SO, WELL, I DON'T KNOW, YOU KNOW, IF WE HAD TO HIRE SOMEBODY TO ERECT THE FLAG, YOU PROBABLY DON'T, YOU KNOW, KNOW THAT YOU NEED TO BE IN FLAG WRECKING BUSINESS.
IT MAY NOT BE A BAD DEAL TO HIRE SOMEBODY, BUT LET'S CHECK OUT THAT PRICE.
MAYBE WE CAN GET THE POLES CHEAPER AND WE CAN HAVE HIM QUOTE PUT THEM IN.
UH, THAT'S WHAT I WAS GONNA SUGGEST.
YEAH, I'M PUT THOSE BIG METAL THING, THOSE CONCRETE OUT.
ANYWAY, THAT'S, THAT'S THE STATUS OF THEM.
WE COULD CHARGE THREE FOR IT, BUT, OKAY.
UH, UNIFORMS. UH, IS THAT THE MAINTENANCE? 20 GRAND? YES SIR.
I WOULD LIKE TO TALK ABOUT OUR UNIFORMS. I KNOW WE HADN'T MUCH ABOUT IT, BUT I'D LIKE TO GET SOME, SOME SHIRT OR SOMETHING FOR THE GUYS TO WEAR.
I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW IF WE WANT TO GO THROUGH THIS UNIFORMS COMPANY.
I KNOW LIKE LISA, I KNOW EVERYBODY'S FRUSTRATED WITH G AND K.
GK HAS NOW BEEN BOUGHT OUT BY CINTAS AND IT'S, IT'S, IT'S A BIG MESS.
I UNDERSTAND MOST OF THESE GUYS ARE JUST FED UP WITH THEM AND THEY'RE FINE WITH THEIR OWN STUFF.
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SHIRT $6 A PIECE.MM-HMM
SHE GOT SOME, NOT ANGIE, BUT CASSIE FOUND SOME T-SHIRTS THE OTHER DAY THAT HAD THE JUST A SCREEN PRINT OF THE SEAL.
SIX BUCKS AND THEY'VE GOT COLOR GALORE.
SO I MEAN, WELL WHAT WE WERE EXPERIENCING WITH G AND K IS, YOU KNOW, WITH THE TYPE OF WORK WE DO, YOU GET PBC GLUE PRIMER, STUFF LIKE THAT.
AND MAN THEY CHARGE YOU EVERY TIME YOU GET A SPECK ON THAT SHIRT, YOU BOUGHT IT, YOU OWN IT A LOT OF MONEY AND THEN YOU HAVE TO TURN IT IN OR THEY CHARGE YOU UNIFORM AGAIN.
SO BASICALLY WHAT WE DID IS I JUST TOLD EVERYBODY, I SAID, HEY, WE'RE NOT GOING TO DO UNIFORMS RIGHT NOW.
NEXT BUDGET CYCLE COMES AROUND, WE'LL TALK ABOUT IT AND WE'LL FIGURE SOMETHING OUT.
WELL YOU WANT TO KIND OF MAKE THAT ONE OF YOUR DEALS AND GET THE COMMISSIONERS INVOLVED IN IT AND SEE IF WE, ARE YOU, ARE YOU GUYS WANTING TO GO BACK WITH WHEN ORGANIZED DO YOU WANT COMPANY OR Y'ALL WANT TO DO YOUR I'M HAPPY.
NO TAKE, GOTTA TAKE THEM HOME.
A PIECE FOR MINE WAS GIVEN TO THEM.
I MEAN I'LL DO WHATEVER Y'ALL WANT.
OURS IS KIND OF HALF AND HALF 'CAUSE WE GET OUR, STILL GET OUR PANTS FROM G AND K OR CENSUS OR WHATEVER THEY ARE, WHICH IS A HEADACHE.
'CAUSE I, I HAD ONE GUY I HAD TO DEAL WITH, HE'S A MECHANIC AND NAMED OLI.
SO THEY DIDN'T WANT TO TAKE ANYTHING HOME WITH CARCINOGENS ON IT TO WASH IT.
SO WE HAD TO, WE HAD TO WORK WITH IT.
SO I'VE GOT ONE GUY THAT DID HIS FULL UNIFORM WITH C AND K.
THE GUY HAVE THEIR PANTS AND THEN WE BUY THE SHIRTS WITH THE REFLECTIVE STUFF TO BE ON THE ROADS STUFF.
SO WE HAD TO KIND OF, YOU KNOW, HALF AND HALF THE BUILD TO MAKE IT WORK.
WELL AND ALSO WHAT ABOUT YOUR RUGS AND RAGS AND THINGS LIKE THAT? WE STILL GET CAN WE DON'T, WE DON'T.
WELL WHEN YOU GOT DIRTY PARKING LOTS, I GOT THREE RUGS BUDDY.
THE SECOND DAY IT'S FILTHY WE THINK RUGS OUT THERE POWER WASHING THING DRY GOING BACK DOWN.
SEE WE DON'T HAVE CONCRETE ASPHALT HAVE SO MUCH FOR THE DISCUSSION ON UNIFORM.
SOUNDS LIKE EVERYBODY'S DOING THEIR OWN THING.
LET'S JUST LEAVE THAT AMOUNT IN THERE.
THEN DO WHATEVER WE DO ON PEST CONTROL.
I DUNNO IF WE GOT PEST CONTROL, BUT PEST CONTROL LIBRARY IS ANY REASON WHY THAT HAS TO BE PROGRAM.
UM, ACTUALLY YASMA HAS AN ANNUAL REPORT THAT SHE HAS TO DO AND IT HAS TO DO LIKE GARBAGE PICKUP, PEST CONTROL, UH, AND IN FACT IT ALSO HAS JANITORIAL SURFACE.
BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT SHE HAS TO DO THAT.
BUT THERE IS A REASON WHY IT'S STILL THAT.
SO WHERE ARE WE ON UH, PEST CONTROL AS FAR AS COST? UH, LIKE IN THE PAST IT'S BEEN AROUND 5,015 AND 16.
SO WE'RE AT 2335 ON THE FIRST ONE.
AND IS THAT ON A CALL BASIS OR UH, REGULAR MAINTENANCE? NO, THEY COME OUT COURT.
THEY COME OUT LIKE EVERY THREE MONTHS.
WELL WE'VE GOT SOME NICE VISITING THE COURTHOUSE SO THEY'RE COMING.
YEAH, WE CAUGHT ONE THE OTHER DAY.
YEAH, YOU JUST BETTER BE GLAD YOU NEED TO EAT LUNCH WITH HIM.
ALARM MONITORING AND WE GOT THAT IN THERE.
YEAH, I WAS PUTTING THAT ON THERE.
I'D LIKE TO ADD THE LINE ITEM.
IT WAS JUST ALARM MONITORING, YOU KNOW, AND ALARM.
ALARM MONITORING FOR US MEANS FIRE ALARMS, YOU KNOW, UM, THE ANNEX SOUTH CAMPUS, UH, WAREHOUSE ANYWHERE IT HAS A FIRE SPRINKLING SYSTEM.
IT HAS TO HAVE, IT HAS TO BE MONITORED 20 HOURS A DAY.
AND WHAT I LIKE TO DO, INSTEAD OF JUST CHARGING THIS TO LIKE REPAIRS COUNTY PROPERTY, I WANNA BREAK IT OUT SO WE CAN ACTUALLY SEE WHAT IT IS THAT WE'RE PAYING FOR ALARM MONITORING.
I MEAN THAT WAY IT'S NOT DUG IN WITH ALL THE OTHER STUFF.
SO WHAT I'M REALLY TRYING TO DO IS I WANT EVERYTHING THAT WE DO FOR REPAIRS COUNTY PROPERTY TO BE REPAIR, REPAIR COUNTY PROPERTY.
IF IT'S NOT REPAIRS COUNTY PROPERTY, I WANT IT BE IN ITS OWN LIGHT ITEM OR WHATEVER.
SO WE, YOU GUYS KNOW WHAT IT IS WE'RE SPENDING.
WHAT I MEAN, SO DID YOU HAVE A NUMBER FOR THAT? I DON'T, I WAS GOING GIVE KW AND FIGURE THAT OUT.
IF THOSE, IF THOSE ARE THE ONES THAT ARE LIKE $50 A QUARTER, HOW MANY BUILDINGS ARE WE TALKING ABOUT? WELL, THEY'RE LIKE $89 OR 89 ANNEX
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SOUTH CAMPUS.UM, I DON'T, I DON'T REMEMBER.
WHY DON'T YOU GET WITH THEM AND THEM GET SOMETHING IN THERE? YEAH.
WE'LL AND THEN ON ALARM MONITOR, I MEAN ON CT CCTV UPGRADES AND BRAKE.
SO THIS IS CURRENTLY NOT IN OUR BUDGET AND I WAS CLOSING TO PUT THIS IN OUR BUDGET.
UM, SO ANYTIME LIKE THESE CAMERAS UP RIGHT NOW, THEY'RE ON ON THE SQUARE RIGHT NOW AND WE'VE GOT CAMERAS ON THE ANNEX.
WE'VE GOT CAMERAS ON THE WHOLE LIBRARY.
THERE'S SOME ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE MAIN COURTHOUSE.
I DUNNO WHAT THAT FIELD IS CALLED.
BUT ANYWAY, WE'VE GOT CAMERAS MONITORING ALL AROUND.
EVERY FACILITY WE HAVE HAS CAMERAS AND THESE CAMERAS GO BAD.
RIGHT NOW WE'RE JUST CHARGING THEM OUT OF REPAIRS COUNTY PROPERTY.
AND I WOULD SUGGEST THAT WE TAKE PUT A-C-C-T-V MINE IN THERE.
THAT WAY WE CHARGE THEM TO THAT LINE ITEM.
YOU KNOW, THAT WAY WE GET ACCURATE.
SO AT THIS POINT IN TIME, IF A DEPARTMENT IS OUR BUILDING IS HAVING A PROBLEM WITH THEIR CAMERAS, THAT THOSE CALLS SHOULD BE SENT TO YOU.
WHEREAS THEY HAVE BEEN WITH IT.
SO, UH, DO YOU THINK 30, $30,000 WILL YEAH, TOMMY AND I SPOKE AND HE WAS WAY UP AND I WAS WAY DOWN.
SO WE KIND OF MADE THE MIDDLE OF THE 30,000.
I MEAN THE 30,000 WOULD BE FOR BREAK FIX, WHICH MEANS IF IT'S BROKE WE'RE GOING TO REPLACE A NEW CAMERA.
UM, BUT FOR THE STUFF THAT NEEDS TOTAL REPLACEMENT, 'CAUSE THERE'S QUITE A FEW FACILITIES THAT NEED A HUNDRED PERCENT UPGRADE.
UM, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT EVEN BE CLOSE, BUT WELL, WE'LL, WE'LL ADDRESS THAT.
I KNOW WE'VE HAD PROBLEMS WITH INCREASING THREE, I THINK YOU GOT PRECINCT TWO UP AND DOWN.
WE'RE IN IN THE PROCESS RIGHT NOW.
JP ONE, THEY'VE BEEN OUT FOR LIKE TWO YEARS.
WELL, JPS HIS BARN NEVER HEADED.
WELL, WHAT I WOULD SUGGEST BEFORE WE JUST PUT, YOU KNOW, WE CAN PUT 30,000 IN PLACEHOLDER FOR TIME BEING.
WHY DON'T YOU COME BACK AFTER YOU HAVE A CHANCE TO A LITTLE MORE CHECK HIM AND WE NEED BOB GEORGE AND HIS DEPARTMENT KIND OF SEE WHERE THEY'RE, UH, AS WELL.
AND THEN, UH, LET'S PUT ENOUGH MONEY IN THERE TO GET STUFF UP AND GOING BECAUSE THAT'S, YOU KNOW, THAT'S OUR WORLD TODAY.
YOU KNOW, WE HAD, YOU KNOW, I WISH WE'D HAD WORKING, UH, CAMERAS HERE TODAY.
WE HAD THE MARK, UH, DEAL THAT EVERYBODY MM-HMM
AND THEN THE OTHER THING, UH, I DUNNO, UH, PHONES RIGHT NOW CURRENTLY ARE BEING, UH, ADMINISTERED BY IT.
AND UH, I THINK THAT MAY BE SOMETHING WE WILL WANT TO VISIT WITH GEORGE ABOUT.
AND, UH, TOMMY AND ALSO, UH, BOBBY ABOUT MOVING THE PHONE, UH, UH, SERVICE TO UH, UH, FACILITIES DEPARTMENT.
UM, I GET LOTS OF COMPLAINTS ON THE PHONE NOT WORKING AND NOT BEING ABLE TO HEAR ON 'EM.
AND, UH, IT SEEMS LIKE IT NEVER GETS FIXED, UH, IN A TIMELY MANNER.
OR WE, WE CALL SOMEBODY AND THEN IT JUST CONTINUES TO GO ON AND ON.
SO THAT'S NOT A, THAT'S NOT ON HERE RIGHT NOW.
THAT'S A DISCUSSION I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A LITTLE BIT LATER ON WITH THE COURT, UH, TALK ABOUT MOVING, UH, PHONES AND THE, UH, THE CAMERA SYSTEMS TO UH, UH, MAINTENANCE MOVE OUT OF IT.
SO ANYBODY HAVE ANY COMMENTS ON THAT? WHAT DOES, WHAT DOES IT NEED TO BE STANDALONE STAND DEPARTMENT OR WOULD IT BE, I MEAN, FACILITIES HAS GOT PRETTY WELL WE COULD DO THAT.
YOU KNOW, WE, I MEAN WE COULD DO IT EITHER WAY.
WE COULD COME IN WITH A, WITH A A, UH, A CAMERA AND A PHONE OR WHATEVER WE WANT TO CALL IT ANOTHER DEPARTMENT AND UH, OR WE COULD LEAVE IT IN HERE.
I MEAN, IT'S KIND OF, IT BE KINDA LIKE IT TOO.
IT'S KIND OF A, IN THE MIDDLE.
I CAN SEE WHERE WIRING IS PLACED.
WELL, AND SOME OF OUR WIRING IS NOT IN THE BEST OF SHAPE.
I, MY OFFICE, I HAVE, I HAVE TWO PHONES, TWO PHONE NUMBERS, BUT THERE'S FOUR PHONE NUMBERS TO MAKE TWO PHONES WORK.
I MEAN, I RECEIVED ON MY PHONE, I SEE A NUMBER THAT'S MY OFFICE, BUT IT'S NOT MY OFFICE PHONE.
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DEAL.ANYBODY ELSE GOT ANY QUESTIONS? NO.
THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU'RE DOING.
I KNOW YOU STAY BUSY ALL THE TIME.
UH, CONSTABLE STEVENS IS HERE AND WE'RE RUNNING A LOOP BEHIND.
UH, AND YOU HAVE A COPY OF HIS BUDGET AS WELL AS, UH, A NARRATIVE, UH, ABOUT IT.
SO, UH, IF YOU WANNA, UH, LOOK AT THE, UH, BUDGET PART, WHICH IS THE ONE PAGE AND UH, UH, IT STARTING AT THE TOP, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, I, WE'RE NOT DOING ANYTHING ON SALARY RIGHT NOW, BUT WE DUNNO WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN ON OUR BUDGET, BUT OUR TAX AND EVERYTHING, WE JUST KIND OF TAKING NOTES, WE GET OUR FINAL VALUE, WE ABLE TO MAKE MUCH BETTER DECISION ON THAT.
UH, PROFICIENCY PAY, IF THAT'S FOR YOU AND ANY OF YOUR DEPUTIES, I GUESS THAT, THAT LINE ITEM'S JUST ME.
DO THE DEPUTIES, I BELIEVE THE DEPUTIES ARE BILL, KEN.
UH, THEN THE CELL PHONE ALLOWANCE, UH, YOU AND THEN YOUR, UH, YOUR ONE FULL-TIME VEHICLE? YES.
YOU A WORKER? YES, I HEAR HIM ALL THE TIME.
I MEAN, HE'S OUT ABOUT ALL, IT MAKES ME SLOW DOWN WHEN I'M GOING TO MY FARM ON SATURDAY MORNING TOO.
HE WORKS EIGHT 30 HOPEFULLY AFTER THIS BE FULL TIME.
UH, SO, UH, OUT COMPLETELY NEXT YEAR ON THE, UH, EXTRA HELP, UH, YOU'RE WANTING TO GO TO 30,000? YES SIR.
PRECINCTS TWO AND FOUR AND THE ADDITIONAL 10,000 WOULD BE FOR UH, HOW DO YOU, WHAT DO YOU USE THAT MONEY FOR NOW? THAT'S PAST SALARY.
UH, SO THAT WOULD UH, THAT WOULD GO TOWARDS HIS SALARY? YES.
STILL PART-TIME, BUT MORE HOURS.
UH, QUESTIONS FROM ANYBODY GOING THROUGH THE FULL BUDGET? UH, THE OTHER ADAM'S OFFICE? UH, NOT OFFICE SUPPLY BUT YOUR, FOR A THOUSAND DOLLARS INCREASE TO GO TO 2000.
UH, BUT WHAT HAS BE SPENT THROUGH FOUR SIX.
FOUR SIX? SO YOU NEED A FULL EXTRA THOUSAND OR THINK A THOUSAND? NO, WE'LL PROBABLY BE OKAY.
I THOUGHT I SPENT MORE THAN THAT.
WE'LL PROBABLY YOU MIGHT HAVE SENT SOMETHING IN KEITH.
ALRIGHT, WE'LL JUST GO BACK TO A THOUSAND ON YET.
UH, AMMUNITION, UH, YOU'RE 1250 AND UH, I THINK COMMISSIONER, YOU TALKED, I THINK YOU SAID YOU HAD TALKED.
YEAH, I, ME, I MENTIONED YOU THE, ABOUT THE OTHER GUYS GETTING THEIR STUFF AT GT, DIDN'T IT? DID YOU CHECKED THEM? I HAVEN'T CHECKED, BUT I'M GOING.
BECAUSE I THINK ALL THE OTHER GUYS WERE RIGHT AROUND A THOUSAND.
YOU KNOW WHAT THEY SAID IN THEIRS? YEAH.
BECAUSE THEY WERE GETTING IT FROM GT.
THEY WERE GETTING IT A LOT CHEAPER.
WELL THAT, THAT GOT INCREASED BY THE COURT.
IT WAS A THOUSAND IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, SHOWING IT.
THE YEAR BEFORE IT WAS A THOUSAND I THINK.
YEAH, 2015 IT WAS LIKE NINE, 12.
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THINK IT WAS THE 1211.I THINK ALL OF GOT UP TO 1250.
SO IT ACTUALLY INCREASED LAST, LAST YEAR.
THE OTHERS ARE A THOUSAND I THINK.
NO, UH, LET'S SEE, I THINK'S CHAD HERE.
OKAY, I'LL CHECK IT OUT HERE AND SEE WHAT YOU GOT.
UH, PARTS AND REPAIRS, UH, LOOK LIKE YOU'RE ASKING FOR $10,000 INCREASE.
UH, AND THAT'S I GUESS DUE TO THE AGE OF UH, INCREASED TWO 10,000.
BECAUSE I'VE GOT A OH SIX CROWN VIC WITH 150 SOMETHING THOUSAND MILES ON IT AND I'VE GOT AN OLD NINE CROWN VIC THAT'S GOT OVER 180 SOMETHING THOUSAND MILES ON IT.
I JUST HAD TO SPEND $10,000 AND PUT NEW CAMERAS IN BOTH OF THOSE CARS.
YOU CAN'T GET PARTS FOR 'EM ANYMORE.
WE JUST HAD TO PUT NEW CAMERAS IN THE CARS AND THE CAMERAS ARE WORTH MORE THAN A CAR ARE.
SO THE CAMERAS BE TRANSFERABLE.
SO YOU'VE GOT A, YOU'VE GOT A TAHOE GOT ONE TAHOE FLOOR AND TWO CROWN VICS.
AND OBVIOUSLY THE CROWN VICS WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING WITH WHATEVER.
SO GOT 61 I BELIEVE ALL THEM ALL RUNNING ABOUT THE SAME.
YOURS OWN UP PRETTY GOOD TAHOE.
SO, UH, WE TALKED ABOUT ONE OF THE, UH, FROM ONE OF THE CONSTABLES THAT WANTED TO, UH, DODGE UH, THE CHARGER.
YEAH, I WAS TALKING ABOUT GOING WITH A CHARGER.
'CAUSE THEY WERE ABOUT 32,000 FULLY EQUIPPED.
WELL I GOT SOME INFORMATION ON THE LEASE.
OKAY, WELL WE'VE HEARD THAT SO THAT'D BE A GOOD TIME TO YEAH, WE GO AT LEAST, I DON'T KNOW.
YOU GOT A CHANCE TO DO ANY INVESTIGATING? PROBABLY NOT YET.
YEAH, DON'T WORRY ABOUT, WE'RE NOT WORRIED ABOUT FACTORY.
THESE, THE LEASE, I GOT A FIRST QUOTE ON A THREE YEAR, FOUR YEAR, AND A FIVE YEAR.
AND THESE ARE TURNKEY LEASES WITH ALL THE EQUIPMENT, THE LIGHTING, THE WAY WE WANT 'EM, RADAR CAMERA, TURNKEY.
UH, ON THE, I THINK IT'S THE LAST PAGE, MAYBE SECOND TO THE LAST PAGE.
THEY'VE GOT IT BROKE DOWN OVER THE 36 MONTH LEASE TURN, UH, WHICH IS NINE 60 A MONTH.
THE 48 MONTH LEASE IS 7 9 6 A MONTH.
AND A 60 MONTH LEASE IS 700 A MONTH.
THOSE ARE BASED OFF OF, UH, 40,000 MILES A YEAR.
AND WE'RE NOT TURNING CLOSE TO 40,000 MILES A YEAR.
BUT EVERY TIME THAT THEY'RE TURNED IN AND NEW VEHICLES ARE, UH, ARE RECEIVED, IT ALL COMES WITH BRAND NEW UP TO DATE EQUIPMENT.
AGAIN, COMPATIBLE TO WHAT WE'VE GOT.
UH, WE JUST HAD DIGITAL ALLEY CAMERAS, DIGITAL ALLEY ARE IN EVERY ONE OF MY CARS.
THEY SAID THAT WE'D BE WITH THE SAME EQUIPMENT ACROSS THE BOARD.
SO THE SAME SOFTWARE, EVERYTHING WORKS THE SAME.
UH, AND THE, THE WAY THEY BUILD THE LEASE ON THIS IS, IS FIGURED LIKE THE 36 MONTH, THEY'RE ASSUMING THERE'S GONNA BE A 30% RESIDUAL AT THE END OF THAT LEASE, WHICH IS DEPENDENT ON THE MILEAGE AND ALL THAT.
IF WE TURN IT IN, SAY WE'VE ONLY PUT 20,000 MILES A YEAR ON IT, THAT RESIDUAL IS PROBABLY GONNA BE A LITTLE BETTER THAN 30%.
ANYTHING OVER THAT 30% THAT THEY SELL THE VEHICLE FOR COMES BACK TO US IN A CHECK.
BUT 30% IS ALL THEY'RE GOING TO GET ONCE THEY SELL IT.
DID THEY NOT SET THE RESIDUAL UP FRONT? YES, THEY DID.
I DON'T KNOW HOW, I DON'T KNOW HOW THEY WOULD ACTUALLY BE ABLE TO DO THE FINANCIALS WITHOUT BASING, YOU KNOW, SETTING THAT BASELINE.
YEAH, THAT'D BE SOMETHING Y'ALL DO WITH
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I'VE NEVER DEALT WITH A LEASE BEFORE.NEVER EVEN THOUGHT ABOUT A LEASE BEFORE.
SO, WELL, MY, MY ONLY CONCERN, THIS IS NOT NEW TO ME, SO I JUST, I'M SURE THEY, I'M SURE THESE FOLKS WILL HAVE CONCERNS ON THE WHOLE BOTTOM LINE THING.
MY CONCERN IS, SEE UP HERE ON THAT PAGE WITH THE QUOTE WHERE IT SAYS BID NUMBER AND ALL.
ARE THEY ON A BUYBOARD? ARE THEY ON A CO-OP? ARE THEY ON SOMETHING LIKE THAT? 'CAUSE IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT BUYING MULTIPLE VEHICLES, WE'RE GONNA EXCEED THAT 50,000 LIMIT.
AND UNLESS THEY'RE UTILIZING SOME KIND OF CO-OP CONTRACT, IT'LL HAVE TO BE FORMALLY BID.
AND I'M ASSUMING THEY ARE BECAUSE THEY DO A LOT OF FIRE TRUCKS, AMBULANCES AND EVERYTHING ACROSS.
I KNOW WE, WE HAD CHECKED ON ONE AND THEY ASSURED US THAT THEY WERE, THEY TOLD HIM ME, EVERYBODY SCHMOOZED US AND SAID WE ARE DONE.
WE GOT DOWN TO, I NEED THAT CONTRACT NUMBER DONE.
SO, AND THIS IS THROUGH DNM LEASING.
AND AGAIN, I DON'T KNOW, I DON'T KNOW THE QUESTIONS THEY ASK AS FAR AS IT BEING NOT PROBLEM.
HEY, I APPRECIATE THIS INFORMATION BECAUSE I KNOW HE'S LOOKING AT, WELL JUST THE GUY, HE'S THE ONE THAT I ORIGINALLY TALKED TO ABOUT OUR DEAL.
BUT THE REASON WE TALKED TO AUTOPLEX, 'CAUSE THEY GAVE US A LOWER PRICE, BUT THEY DON'T DO EMERGENCY VEHICLES AND HE'S GOT, OKAY, THESE GUYS DO.
SO, AND I'M JUST LOOKING AT OTHER WAYS BESIDES SPENDING $60,000 FOR A CAR THAT, YOU KNOW, IN FOUR YEARS GET OUTDATED EQUIPMENT AND EVERYTHING ELSE.
AND I'M HOPING THAT THIS MIGHT BE A WAY THAT WE COULD SAVE SOME MONEY.
I THINK IT WOULD PROBABLY TAKE SOME STRAIN OFF OF PURCHASING AT THE END OF IT, ESPECIALLY AT AUCTION TIME AND EVERYTHING ELSE THAT THEY GOTTA DO WITH EVERYTHING.
SO I THINK IN THE LONG RUN IT MIGHT BENEFIT US.
I DUNNO, IT'S JUST AN OPTION OF DO YOU KNOW WHAT OTHER JURISDICTIONS ENTITIES THEY MIGHT BE SERVING? YOU SAID I DIDN'T ASK, BUT I CAN GET THAT INFORMATION.
MIGHT BE A GOOD CONTACT FOR US.
I MEAN, ESPECIALLY SOMEONE WHO'S TURNING THEM BACK IN TO SEE WHAT YEAH, I SEE HOW I'M TALKING TO SOME GUYS AT DALLAS.
DALLAS PD LEASING ALL OF THEIR CARS.
WELL, YOU KNOW, AND I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT'S WHAT I WAS TOLD BY ANOTHER OFFICER THAT WAS THERE.
I DON'T, IT'S NOT THE CITY OF DALLAS COUNTY.
I MEAN IF IT'S, IF IT'S LIKE IT IS, AS SOON AS WE FIND OUT THE, THE REST OF THE STORY KIND OF, WELL IF IT'S JUST HIM PURCHAS ONE, WE CAN DO THIS.
BUT WITHOUT HAVING TO SEND IT OUT, IT'S ONLY 42,000.
SO WE COULD SPEND THAT AND DO THAT IF, IF WE NEEDED TO.
BUT I WE COULDN'T DO IT FOR A WHOLE BUNCH OF PEOPLE.
NO, BUT IF THEY'RE ONLY BUY BOARD OR YES.
WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A PURCHASE AND A LEASE? YOU DON'T OWN IT.
NO, I MEANT FAR AS THE GOVERNMENT IS CONCERNED STILL IF YOUR EXPENDITURE, BECAUSE WHENEVER YOU ARE ACTUALLY LEASING OR WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CONSIDER IT IS BASED ON THAT SALES PRICE.
NO, THAT'S WHAT I, THEY DO, THEY COVER THAT IN THE WALL THAT THEY FLAT OUT SAY LEASING.
IT DOES NOT SAY LEASING, BUT IT GIVES YOU STRICT THAT'S BEEN CHECKING ON THERE NO DISTINCTION.
THERE'S NO, IF IT'S OVER 50,000, IT'S OVER 50,000 BLACK AND WHITE.
IT, IT DOESN'T, YEAH, IT IT'S PRETTY SPELLED OUT.
NO, IT DOES NOT ADDRESS LEASING SPECIFICALLY.
BUT IT SAYS YOUR EXPENDITURE IS GOING, YOU PUT OUT A BID THREE PEOPLE WHY WE TOOK THAT ONE.
DID YOU, CAN'T YOU JUST, WE JUST HAVE TO HAVE CLEAR SPECIFICATIONS ON WHAT WE WANT.
THAT'S WHAT DO, BUT IF OTHER JURISDICTIONS THAT THEY MAY ALREADY HAVE THAT IN PLACE.
HOPEFULLY THEY'RE MEMBER OF ONE CO-OP YES.
THEY SAID A BUNCH OF THEM WERE USING IT.
BUT I, IT'S, WELL THIS JEFF GUY STRICTLY DOES THIS AND COMMERCIAL, THE EQUIPMENT AND STUFF FOR COUNTIES AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
D WENT TO THE POINT OF HIRING ONE PERSON TO HANDLE ALL THAT.
I'M ASSUMING THEY'D PROBABLY BE, BUT I DIDN'T, I DIDN'T ASK THAT QUESTION.
YEAH, BECAUSE HE, HE HELPED ME.
THIS WAS AFTER WE HAD LOOKED AT AUTOPLEX AND EVERYTHING AS JEFF.
UH, LINS I THINK IS, HE ALSO TOLD ME THAT THEY DO HEAVY EQUIPMENT LISA AS WELL.
SELLING AND THEY'RE MAKING MONEY.
SO SOMEBODY'S GONNA BE PAYING.
WELL THE BOTTOM LINE IS WE'VE GOT 2 MILLION SOMETHING WE KNOW WE CAN'T, WE SHOULDN'T BE USING THOSE.
YEAH, WE NEED GET RID OF THOSE TWO.
THERE'S NO QUESTION ABOUT THAT.
ONE GOT TWO, CAN'T AFFORD RELIABILITY'S GOING UP AND UP AND UP EVERY TIME.
WELL THAT, THAT ONE, THAT ONE DOESN'T GO ANYWHERE.
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I'VE HAD ONE CAR THAT WAS IN THE SHOP BACK TO BACK BECAUSE THOSE FORDS GOT THAT, I CAN'T THINK OF WHAT IT'S CALLED.BUT EACH SPARK PLUG GOT ITS OWN LITTLE PULL PACKAGE.
AND YOU ONE GOES OUT, YOU PUT IT IN THE SHOP AND GET IT FIXED.
YOU GET IT OUT, DRIVE IT A WEEK AND ANOTHER ONE GOES OUT AND IT'S 250, 300 BUCKS POCKET THING.
SO IT'S COST ME A FORTUNE TO KEEP THOSE TWO ON THE ROAD WITH YOU GUYS.
BUT IF I DON'T, THEN I GOT TWO DEPUTIES RIDING AROUND IN A CAR TOGETHER AND THAT'S A WASTE OF MONEY.
COMMISSIONER, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT YOU MENTIONED THAT YOU PUT NEW RADIOS IN THESE VEHICLES AND THAT THEY WERE MORE WORTH MORE THAN THE VEHICLES.
UM, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE'VE KIND OF FALLEN DOWN ON.
IT'S NOT NOTIFYING TECH FOR EQUIPMENT THAT'S PUT INTO CAR IN THE VEHICLES AND THAT EQUIPMENT HAS TO BE INSURED AS WELL AS THE VEHICLE.
SO THEY WANT THE EQUIPMENT ADDED WHEN WE SEND THEM THESE THINGS.
SO WE NEED TO LET THEM KNOW WHEN WE HAVE EQUIPMENT IN A VE NEW VEHICLE OR LIKE WHEN WE CHANGE IT.
AND WE ARE DOING A PRETTY POOR JOB OF THAT.
DID YOU LOOK ON THE, DO THEY SAY UH, CAMERAS IN THERE CAUGHT? NO.
LIKE WHEN WE GET, UM, LIKE I KNOW BUT THAT A SQUAD, ARE YOU REPLACING ANOTHER CAMERA? SO RIGHT, BUT SO IT'S A NEW CAMERA.
IT'S PROBABLY WORTH MORE MONEY THAN THE ORIGINAL ONE.
I MEAN, ARE THEY SEPARATE THEM OUT? YEAH, THEY, THEY WANNA KNOW IF THAT CAR, IF THAT VEHICLE IS INSURED, THEY WANT THE LIST OF EQUIPMENT, THE LIGHTS, THE, THE CAMERAS, THE RADIO, WHATEVER.
WELL I UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT THAT IF THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE ASKING FOR, THEN YOU'RE JUST REPLACING THE ITEM ON IT.
SO IT DOES HAVE LIGHTS, CAMERA.
YOU SEE WHAT I'M SAYING? I SUPPOSE.
BUT I GUESS I GUESS THE QUESTION WOULD BE DO WE NEED TO NOTIFY THEM WHEN SOMEBODY CHANGES IF YOU PUT IN THERE, I DON'T KNOW.
BUT I I'M GETTING AT, WHAT I'M GETTING IS I DON'T ALWAYS KNOW WHEN WE BUY VEHICLE.
SO IF THERE'S ANY EQUIPMENT ON IT, WOULD A PURCHASE ORDER BE ISSUED ON THAT? WELL, LIKE THE ONES WE JUST BOUGHT FOR THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT THAT CHAD HAD PROVIDED THAT QUOTE, IT LISTS EVERYTHING THAT'S ON THAT.
SO IT'S JUST A MATTER OF GETTING IT FROM PURCHASING OR THE AUDITOR TO YOU? IT'S, WELL NO, PURCHASING GAVE ME THE ONES, WELL THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT GAVE ME THE ONES WITH ALL THE EQUIPMENT.
I'M JUST SAYING IN GENERALLY LIKE IF Y'ALL GET A TRUCK, IF IT'S GOT ANY TYPE OF EQUIPMENT ON IT, WE NEED TO KNOW THAT TOO.
AND ANY, ANY OTHER EQUIPMENT IN THE COUNTY.
SO IF YOU KNOW OF SOMETHING, IT'S JUST BEST LET US KNOW BECAUSE I'M TRYING TO LAY ANY KNOW AS WE WELL, AND I I WE NEED TO DO THAT.
BUT I'M JUST TRYING TO SAY, IS THERE A WAY IT CAN BE DONE BETWEEN THE OFFICES THAT ARE UP HERE NOW? WE CAN'T, LIKE I SAID, WHEN IT COMES IN NEW AND IT HAS A LIST, WE CAN, BUT UNLESS WE'RE GETTING, AND NOW, I MEAN IF WE GET A PURCHASE ORDER ON SOMETHING THAT'S A THAT'S A LARGE YEAH.
LIKE IT SOMETHING THAT WAS A LARGE, YES.
WE COULD FORWARD THAT INFORMATION ALONG WITHOUT PROBLEM.
WOULD IT LIST WHAT IT, WHAT VEHICLE IT WAS ON? UM, A LOT OF TIMES I KNOW THE SO AND STUFF THEY, THEY'LL AND THEY TELL ME, BUT THEY'LL GIMME THE VEHICLE WITH THE EQUIPMENT.
THEY, THEY SENT THAT TO ME THE OTHER WAY LIKE THIS IN HIS PORTS OR REPAIRS, UH, FEBRUARY HE HAD, UM, A PO ISSUED TO PURSUIT SAFETY WHERE HE HAD ONE OF THE DIGITAL CAMERA SYSTEMS INSTALLED AND IT WAS 46, 6 5 2 5 WORTH MORE THAN, AND IT'S VERY LIKELY THAT WE DON'T HAVE FULL COVERAGE ON THAT VEHICLE BECAUSE IT'S AN OLDER VEHICLE.
AND SO THERE'S LIKELIHOOD THAT MAYBE THE CAMERA, THAT THE CAMERA MIGHT NOT BE COVERED ALL.
THEY JUST HAVE LIABILITY ON IT.
AND SO YOU WANNA MAKE SURE WE COVER THAT'S THE 2009 FORD CROWN BED.
SO WE JUST NEED TO KEEP THOSE THINGS UNDER IN, IN OUR, THE BACK OF OUR HEADS WHEN WE DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
WE WANT, THERE WAS ANOTHER ONE THAT WAS PULLED AFTER HOSPITAL FOR THE OLD, RIGHT? YEAH, I KNEW WHAT YOU DID BECAUSE YOU DIDN'T HAVE ENOUGH LEFT IN THAT ONE LINEUP.
YOU USED THIS ONE TO HELP BECAUSE IT SAID REMOVED.
A CAMERA SYSTEM AND INSTALLED A NEW DIGITAL ALLY CRYSTAL REAR CAMERA CENTER HIGH OVER REAR CAGE.
DOES, DOES TACK WANT THE BRAND NAME AND SERIAL NUMBER AND ALL OF THAT STUFF? BECAUSE THEY JUST WANNA KNOW THERE'S A CAMERA.
AND I'VE GOT IT LIKE GIVING AN INVOICE WITH ALL OF THE EQUIPMENT FROM THE OTHER INSURANCE DEPARTMENT.
AND WHAT DOLLAR, WHAT THRESHOLD ARE YOU? I THINK THE ONES, WELL, I DON'T KNOW, I GUESS IT'S ANYTHING THAT WE WANT TO HAVE.
INSURANCE, ANYTHING YOU'LL PAY PREMIUMS ON IS WHAT YOU REPORT ANY THE DEDUCTIBLE'S A THOUSAND DOLLARS.
SO I WOULD THINK ANYTHING OVER A THOUSAND DOLLARS WOULD WANT INSURE.
WELL YOU WANNA PAY 46, 65 OR A THOUSAND DOLLARS WELL DO.
YEAH, BUT I MEAN PREMIUM WOULD BE NOT FOR HOW TO DO IT.
WELL, AND I THINK WE'RE PROBABLY GONNA HAVE TO HAVE MORE DISCUSSIONS ABOUT HOW TO MAKE, I CAN GET MORE INFORMATION, BUT I THINK WE
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JUST HAVE TO DECIDE.WELL, I DON'T WANNA BOMBARD YOU IF YOU DON'T HUNDRED DOLLARS INVOICE.
NO, AND THAT'S, I I JUST WANT TO SET UP, LET ME FIGURE THAT I'LL GET SOME MORE INFORMATION ON EXACTLY WHAT THEY NEED TO KNOW AS FAR AS WHAT THEY NEED FOR AS FAR AS THE DATA GOES FOR THAT STUFF.
AND THEN WHAT POINT DO WE BREAK EVEN AS FAR AS PREMIUM DEDUCTIBLE AND ALL THAT.
WHERE, HOW MUCH HAS HE SPENT? UH, 5353, 3.
OUT WHERE'D YOU SAY SIR? THAT PERSON REPAIR 62.
WHAT WE DO WITH THE OTHER HAS WENT TO TEN FOUR, HAS 9,002 HAS 10,000, OR ACTUALLY IT MIGHT BE 9,000.
WELL, AND THIS IS JUST WHAT'S CURRENTLY IN THERE.
I DO THE BUSIEST PRECINCT IN THIS CAN SAID THE SAME THING.
WELL I GOT THE TASK TO PROVE THIS.
SO, UH, AND WE'RE GETTING BUSIER BY THE DAY, SO I WOULD HATE TO TURN AROUND.
I MEAN, WE'RE GONNA BE CLOSE BY THAT FROM WHAT I'M SAYING RIGHT NOW.
WE'RE GONNA BE CLOSE TO THAT 10,000 AT THE END OF THIS BUDGET.
ON ABOUT MILE MEALS AND LOING, UH, YOU'RE, ARE YOU REQUESTING A A TOTAL OF 2000? YES, SIR.
500 ON THE ONE AND 900 ON THE OTHER.
THE MILL MILES AND LO AND THE TRAINING, BECAUSE WE JUST GOT STUCK WITH MORE TRAINING FOR THE CORPORATE SECURITY MANDATE THAT JUST PASSED THAT EVERYBODY HAS TO GO TO.
ALL OF MY GUYS ARE IN THAT SCHOOL THIS WEEK AND, UH, KEEPING ALL OF THAT PLUS OUR MANDATORY TRAINING THAT WE HAVE TO DO AND EVERYTHING ELSE.
AND ON THE TRAINING EDUCATION CONFERENCE, THAT'S STRICTLY JUST FOR THE, UH, REGISTRATION FEES AND, AND THOSE UH, KINDS OF THINGS.
IF SO, HOW MUCH HAS HE, HE'S OVER BUDGET.
HE WENT OVER BUDGET LAST MONTH.
SO HE'S ALREADY SPENT HIS BUDGET THIS YEAR, I GUESS.
AND IT HAVE TO DO WITH THIS SCHOOL NEXT YEAR.
AND JUST TO SAY SOMETHING, ALL OF THIS MONEY HAS GONE TO ACTUAL TRAINING WITH THEM GOING TO SCHOOL, ME GOING TO SAM HOUSTON FOR MY MANDATED STUFF.
NONE OF THIS HAS BEEN FROM ME GOING TO CONFERENCES DOWN ON THE COAST FOR DOING ANY OF THAT OTHER STUFF.
SINCE I'VE BEEN IN THIS OFFICE, ALL OF THIS IS STRICTLY GOING TO TRAINING FOR MY GUYS AND FOR THE MANDATED STUFF I HAVE TO DO.
UH, GENTLEMEN, DO YOU HAVE ANY, ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT ANY OF THAT? NO.
AND THEN, UH, YOU HAD A, DOWN HERE AT THE BOTTOM YOU HAD MISCELLANEOUS FOR SOUTHERN, UH, SOFTWARE.
WHAT DID WE SAY ON THAT EARLIER TODAY? THAT'S SOMETHING GEORGE SHOULD BE GEORGE'S BUDGET.
SO DID YOU, UH, TELL GEORGE ABOUT THAT SO HE COULD INCLUDE IT IN HIS BUDGET? WE TALKED, GEORGE SAID HE WAS HANDLING IT, SO I JUST HADN'T, THEY ALREADY HAD ALL THIS SO I COULDN'T TAKE IT OUT OF THERE.
AND THEN CERTIFICATION PAID FOR COURT SECURITY.
WE HEARD THAT FROM THE OTHER AND WE'VE NOT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT, WE HAVEN'T MADE A DECISION ON WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO ON THAT AT THIS POINT.
AND THEN I THINK YOU WERE ASKING FOR A NEW DEPUTY.
AND YOU GAVE THE UH, UH, THE DOCUMENTATION.
DO YOU WANNA TALK TO US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT? WELL AGAIN, YOU KNOW, OUR PRECINCT IS RUNNING NONSTOP.
I GOT ONE FULL-TIME, ONE PART-TIME GUY THAT MAKES 20,000 A YEAR.
THE OTHER PART TIMES IN THIS COUNTY MAKE 30.
ALL OF MY PEOPLE ARE ON THE STREET DOING SERVING PAPERS AND ANSWERING CALLS AND DOING STUFF.
WE DON'T HAVE THE MANPOWER TO DO ANYTHING ELSE THAN WHAT WE GOT GOING.
UH, IF I CAN GET ANOTHER DEPUTY IN HERE, HE CAN, HE'LL GO MORE THAN PAY FOR HIMSELF.
HE'LL BE WORKING SCHOOL ZONE TRAFFIC EVERY MORNING, WHICH MY GUYS DO NOW.
UH, HE'LL BE DOING UH, WARRANTS.
ONLY THING WE DO ON WARRANTS RIGHT NOW IS EVERY WARRANT THAT COMES OUT, MY JPS
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OFFICE, WE GOT A LITTLE PINK DOOR HANGER AND HE GETS FILLED OUT WITH THAT WARRANT INFORMATION.WE DON'T KNOCK ON THE DOORS, WE DON'T NOTHING.
WE GO UP AT THE HOUSE AND PUT IT ON THE DOOR IF WE DON'T HAVE THE TIME TO PICK THEM UP AND BRING THEM TO COFFMAN EVERY DAY BECAUSE THEN IT TAKES US FOUR HOURS OUT OF THE, OUT OF THE PRECINCT JUST TO PUT ONE IN JAIL FOR A $200 WARRANT IS PROBABLY GONNA SET THAT ANYWAY.
UH, AND WE'VE GOT PEOPLE NONSTOP SHOWING UP AT OUR OFFICE WITH THOSE PINK SLIPS SAYING I FORGOT ABOUT THIS AND, AND TAKING CARE OF IT.
UH, ENVIRONMENTAL, YOU KNOW, THE, THAT'S A BIG DEAL IN THIS COUNTY.
A LOT OF STUFF GOING ON IN OUR PRECINCT.
THIS DEPUTY WOULD ALSO BE TRAINED.
I'VE BEEN TRAINED, ONE OF MY DEPUTIES NOW BEEN TRAINED SOME ENVIRONMENTAL STUFF.
UH, WE'LL HELP OUT ON THAT END AND FILING SOME CASES AND DOING SOME STUFF.
HELP GET THE PRECINCT CLEANED UP SO THEY HAVE THE, WHATEVER IT IS, THE CERTIFICATION FOR THE ENVIRONMENTAL STUFF.
IN THE PROCESS OF GETTING THAT IN THE PROCESS.
WE, WE HAVE BEEN SOME CLASSES ALREADY ON ENVIRONMENTAL STUFF, UH, THROUGH LEHMAN OUT IN HOUSTON AND THERE'S SOME MORE CLASSES THAT WE'RE PLANNING ON GETTING, HOPEFULLY BEFORE IT'S OVER ALL OF MY GAS WE'LL BE CERTIFIED AND THEN WE'LL BE ASSISTING WITH THE FIRE MARSHALS AND HELPING THEM ON WHATEVER WE CAN HELP THEM WITH.
AND THEN TAKING CARE OF SOME STUFF ON OUR OWN ALSO.
THAT'S SOMETHING UH, WE DID WHEN I FIRST CAME INTO OFFICE IS WE GOT WITH RANDY RICHARDS AND WE DROVE THE WHOLE PRECINCT AND THE LIST JUST KEPT GROWING AND GROWING AND GROWING OF ALL THESE, YOU KNOW, JUST TRASHY BUSINESSES, TRASHY YARDS, WHATEVER HOUSES.
AND, UH, KEITH CAME TO THE OFFICE A COUPLE TIMES AND WE WERE TELLING HIM ABOUT IT AND THAT'S WHEN HE, HE SAID, WELL, YOU KNOW, WE COULD HELP WITH THAT.
AND HAVING AN EXTRA PERSON WOULD HELP DO THAT.
AND WHAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT EARLIER, WE COULD GET AN ENVIRONMENTAL OFFICER, YOU KNOW, IN EVERY PRECINCT COULD BE ALL, WELL THIS IS ONE WAY OF DOING IT.
YOU KNOW, MAYBE WHERE IT'S, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING HE COULD DO TO HELP WITH IT.
IT'S RIGHT THERE IN OUR PRECINCT.
YOU KNOW, IT CAN BE MY ENVIRONMENTAL LAWSUIT.
SO, YOU KNOW, THAT'S SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT.
WELL THEY'RE FIXING TO RETIRE ANYWAY.
FIXING, I THINK HE SAID THAT ONE ALREADY.
YEAH, HE'S GOT ANOTHER ONE RETIRING SOMETIME DURING 2018.
AND HE WAS ASKING FOR A TOTAL OF TWO TO REPLACE THOSE AND TWO MORE.
I MEAN THERE, THERE'S PLENTY TO DO FOR A FULL TAB OFFICER.
I MEAN THERE COULD BE A LOT MORE DONE THAN WHAT IS, WHICH I KNOW THE TWO THAT ARE IN IT, THEY'VE BEEN RUNNING NONSTOP AND DOING WHAT THEY CAN DO.
YOU KNOW, AND WE'VE DONE WHAT WE CAN CUT THEM.
I MEAN ANOTHER DEPUTY, I CAN KEEP HIM BUSY WORKING ENVIRONMENTAL WORKING SCHOOLS ON TRAFFIC, WHICH WE WORK EVERY MORNING ALREADY.
UH, HANDICAP PARKING ENFORCEMENT.
AIN'T NOBODY IN PRECINCT THREE DOING THAT.
AND IT'S A PET PEEVE OF MAN, YOU KNOW, AND THEY WILL BE PICKING THE BUSINESSES AND DOING STUFF GOOD, COMFORTABLE ARE WRITING SO MANY TICKETS FOR PARKING.
SO YOU HOMEOWNER CAN RIDE IT IN SHOP.
A WHOLE BUDGET OUT OF WRITING TICKETS FOR PEOPLE.
HANDICAP PARKING SPOTS IN NOW.
BUT IT, WHOLE BUDGET DOWNTOWN.
HOW MUCH REVENUE YOU GONNA GENERATE? SOMEBODY PULL UP IN A HOOP AND CLIMBING OUT IT AND THEY'RE AS HEALTHY AS EVERY ONE OF US AND GO WALKING INTO WALMART, GOT DRIVING AROUND WITH A WHEELCHAIR ON THE BACK OF A AIN'T NOWHERE TO PARK.
DRIVES INTO THE WINDOW, DRIVE AND GO.
SO WHAT DO YOU, AND WE'RE NOT MAKING ANY DECISIONS TODAY ON PERSONNEL OTHER THAN TAKING A REQUEST, UH, BECAUSE WE'RE NOT QUITE THAT FAR ALONG.
SO GENTLEMEN, YOU'VE HEARD THE REQUEST, YOU WANT TO PUT THAT DOWN AS A, AS A POSSIBLE ADDITION TO THAT'S SOMETHING PRETTY GOOD DISCUSSION THOUGH.
UH, THAT MIGHT, MIGHT, I THINK EACH PRECINCT OFFICER PRECINCT NEVER HEARD.
THINK OUTSIDE THE BOX MIGHT FIND, TAKE IT FROM ONE DEPARTMENT, PUT THEM IN ANOTHER DEPARTMENT.
MM-HMM
I'M JUST SAYING TO ADD THAT IN THE WHAT SIR? THE PRECINCT, UH, THE INCREASES PART-TIME HEALTH.
THAT INCLUDES, UM, THAT INCLUDES TAXES AND RETIREMENT.
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NO.I KNOW, BUT SO IT'S, IT'D BE MORE THAN 30 TIME IT SAID AND DONE.
IT'S A $10,000 INCREASE, RIGHT? YEAH.
MM-HMM
THAT'S GONNA BE ON TOP OF THAT.
UH, AND THEN THE UH WAIT, WAIT, WAIT.
HOW MANY IRONS YOU GOING WORK IN KEITH? I DON'T KNOW.
I NEED TO GET WITH YOU AND I AM NOT ON PAYROLL THAT YOU NEED TO GET WITH HR 'CAUSE IF YOU WORK A 30 OR MORE, THEY'RE GONNA BE ON OUR INSURANCE.
IT'S GONNA BE A BENEFIT THAT'S GONNA CAUSE YOUR BUDGET TO GO OUT LIKE A LITTLE BIT MORE.
DO YOU NOT HAVE A LOT OF CAMERAS? NO SIR.
NO, BECAUSE THE LAST THING I HAD HEARD, UH, PAM WAS GONNA TRY AND GET HIS RENT AND COVER THOSE AND IT DIDN'T GO THROUGH.
BUT UH, WE DEFINITELY NEED, DO YOU HAVE MONEY IN THIS YEAR'S BUDGET ANYWHERE THAT YOU COULD BUY THAT UP? UNIFORMS. I BELIEVE I'M STILL CLOSE TO WHAT I YOU ONLY GOT A THOUSAND LEFT IN THERE UNIFORM.
I MEAN MY GUYS ARE EQUIPPED UNIFORM WISE.
THE ONLY THING REALLY I'M DOING NOW IS THEY GO WIRE PAIR OF PANTS OR SOMETHING.
SO I COULD PROBABLY PULL THOSE OUT MY BUDGET.
THAT WOULD AS LONG AS I DON'T HAVE A CAR.
YEAH, WELL BECAUSE TRANSFER WE PAY FOR THE OTHER.
I KNOW THEY PAY FOR FUNDS OR DOES ANYBODY KNOW IT'S BEEN, I THINK SOME OF 'EM HAVE COME THROUGH SOME OF THE GRANTS.
I THINK SOME OF 'EM ACTUALLY, YEAH WE DID GET SOME FROM GRANTS AND I THINK THEY, THEY MOVED SOME MONEY AROUND AND I REMEMBER WE PAID FOR 'EM BUT I'D HAVE TO GO BACK AND RESEARCH IT.
SIX PAID FOR THEIR YEAH SHERIFF PAID FOR IT.
BUT YEAH, SOME OF THOSE OTHER ONES WERE PAID FOR BY GRANT SO THEY WOULDN'T HAVE COME OUT THERE.
RESPECT BUDGET I TWO GOT LAST YEAR BUT I DON'T REMEMBER HOW THEY GOT LOT THAT WAS ON GRANT BECAUSE THEY GOT THOSE THEN THEY GOT THE WHATEVER THE, I THINK A LOT OF THEIRS CAME ABLE THAT MICHIGAN MAY HAVE.
I JUST REMEMBER I DON'T ONE OF 'EM COULD I, THEY WERE LIMITED ON WHAT THEY COULD BUY.
YOU KNOW, I REMEMBER EVERYBODY CAMERA BEING PART OF THAT.
I DIDN'T PUT IN FOR HIM LAST YEAR BECAUSE LIKE I SAID, I KNEW PAM PORTER WAS WORKING ON A GRANT TO TRY TO GET ALL THAT STUFF DONE.
SO I WAS WAITING ON THAT NOTE WHAT HAPPENED.
YEAH, SHE TRIES TO FIND THEM ALL BUT WE CAN'T FIND THEM ALL BUT IT GETTING TO THE POINT WITH THE STUFF AND WE'RE DEALING WITH AND THE PEOPLE WE'RE DEALING WITH, WE NEED NEED TO GET SOME CAMERAS ON THESE GUYS.
I'VE GOT A DENTAL APPOINTMENT IN TER AT FOUR O'CLOCK.
MIND DOESN'T TAKE ON ONE THING ABOUT CONS STEVENS.
I'D LIKE TO SAY HAS THERE BEEN SEVERAL TIMES HERE AT THE PROBATION OFFICE WE CALLED TERRELL PD FROM ARRESTING OFFENDER WITH WARRANT TERRELL PDS.
LIKE WE DON'T HAVE ANYONE AVAILABLE.
WE TURNED AROUND AND CALLED THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT.
SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT'S LIKE WELL IT'S GONNA BE A COUPLE HOURS.
WE CALLED CONS STEVEN'S OFFICE TWICE.
HE'S HAD PEOPLE COME IN OFF THE STREETS TRYING EXECUTE WARRANT.
HE'S ALWAYS BEEN THERE TO HELP US OUT AND HE'S ALWAYS BEEN THERE TO HELP RUN ME A HAND WHEN I NEEDED IT.
SO APPRECIATE I GIVE YOU THAT 20
HOW MUCH DO YOU NEED FOR GOOD BODY CAMERAS? I THINK THERE ARE ABOUT 600 A PIECE I CAN GIVE THEM ACTUAL HOW MANY DO YOU NEED? FOUR.
IT WOULD LISTEN TO A A PO AND WE'RE GONNA TAKE IT OUT OF THAT UH, NEW EQUIPMENT LINE ITEM.
WHAT PASS THAT CONSTABLE BECAUSE YOU ALREADY I USED FOR THE CAMERA SO NEED MAKE SURE POSSIBLE HE CAN PROBABLY AT LEAST PUT IT IN THERE AND I'LL FIND THE 25,000.
WELL I CAN'T TAKE IT OUT ROAD BRIDGE AND TRANSFER THOUGH SIR.
DAVID, DO YOU WANT TO TELL US WHAT YOU UH, I CAN, I WAS GONNA ASK YOU WANT ME TO EXPLAIN NEW? YEAH, WHY DON'T YOU DO THAT THERE.
YOU UM, THE BUDGET COPIES THAT Y'ALL HAVE FOR THE CSCD, ALL PROBATION, THEY'RE NOT NEAR ACCURATE.
UM, AND HERE'S WHY I DO NOT RECEIVE FUNDING FROM THE COUNTY.
THE ONLY THING THE COUNTY HAS HIRED BY LAW TO PROVIDE ME IS OFFICE BASED FURNITURE AND UTILITIES AS FAR AS SALARIES, INSURANCE,
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SOCIAL SECURITY, COPY PAID FOR, PENS, PENCILS, EVERYTHING ELSE.THAT ALL COMES TO MY OWN BUDGET, WHICH IS FROM THE STATE OF TEXAS AND THROUGH THE COLLECTION OF PROBATION ELEMENTS.
SO THE STATE OF TEXAS, OUR FISCAL YEAR ACTUALLY STARTS SEPTEMBER ONE.
I NORMALLY FIND OUT FROM THE STATE OF TEXAS HOW MUCH MONEY I'M GETTING AROUND THE END OF JUNE TO THE MIDDLE OF AUGUST.
AND THEN I HAVE ABOUT TWO WEEKS TO TURN AROUND AND KICK TOGETHER A BUDGET TO SHIP THAT OFF TO THE STAGE.
AND THAT'S WHERE MY BUDGET GETS APPROVED FOR MY DAILY OPERATING EXPENSES AND THAT TYPE OF STUFF.
SO THE NUMBERS THAT ARE IN THIS BUDGET THAT I'VE GIVEN Y'ALL, UM, ARE FROM LAST YEAR'S NUMBERS AND OUR NUMBERS CHANGE EVERY YEAR.
UM, THE AMOUNT OF MONEY YOU COLLECT IN PROBATION FEES CHANGES THE AMOUNT OF MONEY WE GET FROM THE STATE.
CHANGES BASED ON POPULATIONS, POPULATION ON PROBATION, CERTAIN TYPES OF OFFENSES AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
SO THIS NUMBERS Y'ALL HAVE HERE IT IS ROUGH ESTIMATE
I KNOW THE COUNTY EMPLOYEES ARE NOT DOING UM, PAY RAISES.
MY DEPARTMENT BASED BUDGET BID, I HAVE BUDGET IN PAY RAISE FOR ALL OF MY STAFF EXCEPT FOR MYSELF.
UM, 'CAUSE WE ARE COMPARATIVE TO NEIGHBORING COUNTY PROBATION DEPARTMENTS.
UM, WE MAKE LESS THAN ROCKWELL, LESS THAN DALLAS, LESS THAN ELLIS.
UM, LESS THAN CALL, LESS THAN LESS THAN FOUR WORK.
AND SO IN ORDER TO TRY TO KEEP SOME OF MY PEOPLE AND TAKING A STRICT TRAIN, I DO HAVE A PAY REASON FOR MY STAFF.
NONE OF THAT COMES FROM COUNTY BUDGET.
SO THIS KIND OF, I MENTIONED THAT TOO LOUD BECAUSE THE STATE WILL BE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO COME MAKE US PAY FOR, WELL A LOT OF THAT IS FROM OUR PROBATION FEE COLLECTIONS.
WHEN I GOT HERE IN UM, JULY, 2015, THE COURTS WERE STILL CHARGING $40 A MONTH PROBATION FEES.
WELL BY LAW WE CAN CHARGE UP TO 60 SO WE'RE CHARGING $60 A MONTH AND KW CAN TELL YOU IF OUR RESERVE KEEPS GROWING NO MATTER WHAT I'M SPENDING.
UM, THAT TO, HUH, I WAS GONNA SAY FACT TO THE POINT WHERE THE STATE'S ASKING FOR MONEY, THE MONEY BACK.
THE STATE'S NOT REQUESTING MONEY BACK.
UM, AND SO IT'S, UM, THAT'S SOME OF THE THINGS I'M DOING.
BUT BEFORE I GET MY FINAL NUMBERS IN, I'M NOT BUDGETING MYSELF AT BARRY'S, I'M JUST BUDGETING FOR THE STAFF.
UM, I'M ALSO LOOKING AT, I KNOW THE $50,000 MARK HAS BEEN GOING AROUND A LITTLE BIT.
I'VE TOUCHED BASE A LITTLE BIT WITH LISA.
I KIND OF TOUCHED BASE WITH Y'ALL YESTERDAY ON THIS.
I'M CURRENTLY SPENDING ALMOST $50,000 A YEAR IN SUBSTANCE ABUSE COUNSELING.
BUT ONCE I HIT THAT $50,000 A YEAR MARK, I'M GONNA HAVE TO WHAT'S CALLED AN R FP FOR THAT BIDS THAT'S GONNA LIMIT ME TO ONE COUNSELOR THAT I HAVE TO CONTRACT WITH.
ULTIMATELY IN THE LONG RUN, IT'S GONNA BE CHEAPER FOR ME JUST TO HIRE A COUNSELOR AND HAVE 'EM ON STAFF AND JUST PAY FOR THAT EMPLOYEE RATHER THAN CONTRACTING UP TRAIL.
UM, SO I AM LOOKING AT POSTING A POSITION FOR COUNSELOR PROBABLY IN ABOUT TWO WEEKS, WHICH IS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT PROMPTED JUDGE CHI TO ASK ME TO PRESENT TO COMMISSIONERS YESTERDAY ON ABOUT NOT HAVING ANY OFFICE THINGS.
I'M DOING SOME INTERNAL MOVING AROUND THINGS WHERE NO MATTER WHAT HAPPENS ONCE I, ONCE I HIRE THIS COUNSELOR, I'LL TAKE SOMETHING.
UM, BUT THERE'S A LOT OF GROWTH COMING TO THE DEPARTMENT AND THAT THAT'S MY BIGGEST REQUEST GOING FORWARD.
UM, SO THAT'S KIND OF WHAT'S GOING ON WITH OUR BUDGET IS I DO HAVE BASIC SUPERVISION BUDGET.
I DO HAVE WHAT'S CALLED UM, COMMUNITY CORRECTION FUND BUDGET.
AND THEN THIS LAST TWO YEARS I'VE HAD A, UM, GRANT PROGRAM FOR MENTAL HEALTH WHERE I PAY FOR MENTAL HEALTH OFFICER WORK, JUDGE'S, MENTAL HEALTH COURT, AND ALSO WORKED, UM, DEFENSE HEALTH COURT.
SO I'VE GOT THOSE THREE BUDGETS, BUT ALL OF THAT MONEY'S COMING FROM THE STATE.
AND SO LET'S KIND OF WRAP UP ON THAT.
YOU DON'T REALLY KNOW WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO GET, SO.
UH, IT'S KIND OF HARD TO DO ANYTHING WITH THAT UNTIL WE CAN DO THAT.
AND ESPECIALLY WHENEVER WE GET THOSE DOCUMENTS IN FROM THE STATE, ONCE THEY'RE ALL FINALIZED, WE JUST PLUG THOSE NUMBERS IN.
MAIN THING WE HAVE TO DO IS PROVIDE YOU, UH, A FACILITY.
AND I DO THINK, I KNOW SOME COUNTIES THAT CHARGE LIKE EIGHT PER UH, WHATEVER PERCENT RENTAL OF THE, UH, OFFICE WOULD BE AND WE'VE NEVER DONE THAT.
OR THERE'S SOME PERCENTAGE YOU CAN CHARGE.
ACCORDING TO THE GOVERNMENT CODE, THE WADE IS WRITTEN.
UM, IF A COUNTY IS DOING A RESIDENTIAL FACILITY, A TREATMENT FACILITY OR SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES, THEN THE COUNTY CAN CHARGE PROBATION DEPARTMENT RENT.
IF IT'S JUST A PROBATION FACILITY OFFICE OFFENDER OF THAT TYPE OF DEAL, THEN THAT'S MANDATED TO BE PROVIDED BY.
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I CAN'T PAY IF I DON'T EVER OPEN UP A RESTITUTION CENTER.I MISUNDERSTOOD THEN BECAUSE YEAH, I MEAN I TELL THE JUDGES, WE TOLD ME THAT, YOU KNOW, WELL YOU'RE GONNA BE CHARGING 10% OF THAT.
YOU KNOW, I DO PAY A FISCAL SERVICE FEE FOR, UM, THE USE OF KW AND HR AND EVERYONE ELSE.
UM, WE PUT IN A PARKING LOT FOR YOU.
YOU'LL PAY
WHEN THE PARKING LOT GETS PUT IN, WE'RE GONNA COME.
AND ALSO WE'RE THE ONLY SUB COURTHOUSE FROM MY UNDERSTANDING.
YEAH, WE TALKED ABOUT THAT EARLIER.
IT'S LAYING DOWN AT THE END OF MY BUILDING TAKEN DOWN IS WHENEVER IT WAS PUT UP, PUT UP SO CLOSE TO THE BUILDING, PUT ON IT SLAPPED THE SIDE OF BUILDING.
DOES BOBBY KNOW YOU HAVE THAT? YES.
SO NO COMMISSIONER WHO FIRST DID GET INTO, THERE'S NO FIRST VISIT I GUESS SO.
BUT THEY WERE EXCITED TO DO THE ADJOURNED.
WHAT'S ALL INSTALL? I THINK WHAT HAPPENED SHORT.